FKN Classics Double Feat! Stephen - Matrix Expansion | Julian Palmer - Psychedelic Beings

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Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today,
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I want to welcome back to the show Stephen Status.
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He is host and producer of bgcast podcast. He has
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dedicated his life to understanding the nature of human consciousness,
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the nature of reality, true human origins, and the occult
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nature of our governments.
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And global establishments.
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He has recently started a new business, BEG Body, Mind
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and Spirit, where he offers life coaching, Kundalini yoga classes,
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breathwork classes, total body mind spirit health programs, personal training,
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and much more. Steven, welcome back. How you doing good man?
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Thanks for having me back on. It's good to be
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back on the show. And things have been rather interesting lately,
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very very interesting and strange.
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But yeah, man, I am definitely excited to get into
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that as well as talk about your can you business.
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Super excited about that, as well as some of the
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modalities you're working with and going to be offering. You
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also had a very profound experience with Mister Toad's Wild
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Ride aka Buffo. Looking forward to hearing about that. I
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myself have never experiences before. I might try it one day,
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but I'd love to hear about your experience. Lots to
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get to. Before we get to any of that, just
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remind the audience a little bit about yourself and let
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them know where they can find your show and more
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about you.
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Definitely, man, definitely.
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So.
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I'm Stephen of bgcast. I'm the owner of bg cast.
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I'm part of the Forbidden Knowledge Network along with Chris here,
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and we are a podcast that covers the Great Awakening
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and everything it entails. I specialize in the nature of
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human consciousness, the nature of this reality, true human origins,
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the occult nature of our governments and global lablishments. I
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also specialize in psychedelics and Kundalini yoga. So I'm very
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very well rounded, a jack of all trades here. So
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and uh yeah, it's it's been an interesting ride to
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say it right right on.
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Well, before we get into your recent experiences and talking
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about what you're offering people now at your business, how
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do you feel about how everything has been unfolding, political theater,
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the breakdown of sanity within society, AI taking over our
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social media and complete lives. What are your thoughts on everything?
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Well, this is all you know. What I can really
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say about it, Chris is this is we are in
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a very strange unknown and uncharted territory for this current
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batch of humanity we we have entered. And it's even
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crazy too, man, because I've been I do think we're
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getting some kind of one hundredth monkey backed out of
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all of this too, Because as of lately, man, I've
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been having people you would consider asleep, people you consider
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normies coming up to me and asking me, does everything
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feel fake to you?
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Does?
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Does everything? Does time feel off? Does everything? And of course,
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on the inside I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
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this is awesome, but you know, I'm playing at koy.
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On the outside, I'm like, oh, oh, what do you mean, Explain? Explain.
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But I feel we're getting pushed, We're getting compressed, we're
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getting nudged to awaken, you know, in a collective sense
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as well. I mean, you know, some of the stuff
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that we're seeing going down is at least in my opinion,
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is so blatantly either staged or doctored. It's becoming very,
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very obvious. And at this point, I think it's only
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a matter of time before we start having more people
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asking the question, does everything feel fake to you? What's
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going on with time? Why does everything feel like a show?
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Because ultimately it is man. So as of right now,
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we're just in a very strange, unknown and uncharted territory.
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I wonder how much is actually a show in a
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sense that it is thought out, it is planned, its
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theater for the masses, And how much is actually synchronistic
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surfing in a sense that there is a level of
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awareness of the desired outcome that the parasitic ruling class
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as you would call it, wants to have. So maybe
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there's some ritualistic aspects behind things, Maybe there's a series
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of events that they have to follow in order to
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get a certain outcome. But I wonder how much of
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it is actually known to the players involved, especially politicians,
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people at lower levels. It works together too well at times,
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it seems for it to be playing and buy humans
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in a sense, what do you think?
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I know what you mean? So, so I honestly feel
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it's a culmination of things. It very well could be.
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One of the things I would I would say in
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this is we can't discount the work that we've been
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doing in altering the energy and our collective consciousness. So
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one of the big reasons why we're here, at least
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in my opinion, is we are here through our work
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that we're doing, whether we're doing podcasting, I mean, all
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of us are on our spiritual evolution for the most part.
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You know, we're doing the healing, we're doing the inner work,
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we're doing consciousness exploration. We're opening ourselves up to these
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different and bigger layers.
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All right.
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And that's one of the things I like to say.
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You know a lot of people say pierce the veil,
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and you know, one of the biggest things I can say,
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if there's more than one veil in this whole, in
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this whole thing, you know, there's many layers to the illusion.
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And as you open yourself up more, you start to
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see these new layers. You start to kind of break
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through into this and you'll get new information, and you know,
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we're here to terraform the frequencies of this planet. We
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are through our spiritual work, and I do think we
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also have a hand in potentially some of the stuff
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that's happening as well. You know, one, through our free will,
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we accept a lot of what's going on, we allow
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it to but through terraforming this planet into the higher frequencies,
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we're going to set the stage for more of what
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I would call these awakening events to start to occur
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and start to manifest. So I do think we have
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a hand in it. I you know, as far as
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it being too coordinated to be staged, I mean, there
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could very well be an extra dimensional presence that's involved
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that's kind of assisting in this the at least in
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my opinion. I mean, what it is or who it is,
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we can speculate all day long. But you know, some
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of it does seem to cut and dry to be staged.
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But then again, you know, you and I were talking
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about on the FKA panel, how you know that whole
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Elon and Trump fight, you know what I mean, how
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they were going off and behind the Steanes pallateer. Uh,
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you know, put in that mass surveillance system or the
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mass surveillance program for you know, American citizens, and we
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know that they're working for enemy surveillance. So that kind
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of makes you wonder. So I think it's really it's
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it's it's a little bit of a culmination of things. Man,
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it's us, you know, the work we're doing here. You know,
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people accepting narratives and ideologies through their own free will,
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and when you have uh, the way these parasit those
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parasitsitic ruling class works. Is when you have enough people
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buy into this ideology, this trend, thought of this narrative,
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it makes it easier for them to manifest it and
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make it come forth. So so really it's to me,
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you know, well, guess everything might be fake and gay.
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Don't get me wrong. You know, like that's that that
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is that is something that is a possibility here. I
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think it's not as black and white as maybe everything
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is staged. But I would say, you know, I'm gonna
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borrow a line from a friend of mine. Actually not
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everything is a si oup of most things.
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Right on, let's opinion, No, I gotcha. Let's demystify manifestation
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for a bit, because this is such a popular topic
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and it's dismissed quite often still, people will just dismiss
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it as some kind of woo woo concept that new
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age folks are bringing to the table. But I've experienced
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it way too much. It is too real for me
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to dismiss any of it. And I've heard this from
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many people recently that they are experiencing huge levels of
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manifestation in their lives as well. And I wonder if
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our awareness of things may be a trigger of this.
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The collective awareness of things happened in twenty twenty, the
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series of events that followed, and this quote unquote awakening
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in general maybe having an effect on our ability to
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manifest things. I can look at things in my own
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life all day long and be amazed. But I can
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also look at things in other people's lives that are
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starting to come to the forefront, especially when they put
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creative effort into it, especially when they put conscious effort
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into what they're trying to manifest. It is so powerful
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right now. It seems that this is a very powerful
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time to start attempting to manifest things. And I was
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I was telling Jennifer a joke that even Corey has
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manifested so much. Look how many people are wary of
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the Jews.
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Now, I'm sure he's I'm sure he's loving that. I'm
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sure he's loving that honestly. Man, But no, I have
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to be careful because you know, you know everybody, because
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you know, since Israel past that thing where you can't
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criticize it, I have to now call it the uh
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the small country in the eastern Mediterranean if I want
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to start questioning it. But uh, but really, man, demystifying manifestation.
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You know. So this is the biggest thing is there's
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so much proof and evidence out there for it, especially
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in in what we would call the consensual science world.
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Uh that you know, people just aren't looking for it.
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I think honestly, they're they're it's it's a fight within themselves,
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you know, to to maybe accept or maybe they're not
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accepting this potential what we would call this magical aspect
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of this reality. And it really comes down to the ego,
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preconceived notions man and subconscious and conscious conditioning that we've
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experienced since we were birth into this planetary existence. And
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really the best way I can demystify it for those
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who are like really on the fence or those who
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really want a lot of evidence. I know I've probably
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this ad nauseum on your show, but I mean, for
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Fox's sake, quantum physics pan psychism, the theory of pan
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psychism in quantum physics, Okay, guys, if mainstream physicists are
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talking about this, okay, you know, for the people who
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need the hard evidence, you know, who want to see
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the studies and they want to see the theories. If
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quantum physics has a theory called pan psychism, where consciousness
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is the prima materia of this existence. Okay, everything stems
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from consciousness. You know, the wave function the universe has
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to be observed in order to exist. Okay, So for
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the people who really want heard evidence on this, go
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look at the theory of panpsychism. Go look at the
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experience experiments on consciousness. Okay, there's plenty of them. I mean, shoot,
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correct me if I'm wrong on the date. I know
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there was a Geneva convention. It was either in the
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earlier the late forties, where Tesla Einstein a lot of
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the rates actually sat down and they talked about how
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this is strange because when somebody's running a scientific experiment,
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depending on who's observing the experiment will dictate the results
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of the experiment. That seems a little lot. And if
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nobody's observing the experiment, you get a whole different set
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of results. So so I'll digress, and I'll say this
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that you know, there's tons of hard evidence out there
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that a lot of people, even in the scientific field,
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are starting to take in the fact that we might
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be living in a consciousness based reality. And you know,
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this reality must be consciousness first, and the experience second.
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You need the consciousness in order to have that experience. So,
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with that being said, if we do live in a
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existence where consciousness is the prima materia, we know that
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your mental faculties are going to interact and actually be
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a set of tools when it comes to your perceived
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physical experience or perceived external experience. Right. So we know
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that energy goes, where the energy goes, where the focus goes.
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That's something we talk about in the spiritual community a
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lot and on our spiritual evolution, all right, And this
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is all how manifestation works, plain and simple. We live
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in a consciousness based reality. Your mental faculties interact with
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your perceived external experience. Your perspective of your experience is
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going to dictate the outcome that you have in set experience. So,
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if you are keeping yourself in a positive mind state,
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right and you are in taking good content, you want
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to manifest a joyful, abundant life for yourself. The first
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thing you need to do is you need to have
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a positive mindset. And this also boils down even to
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the ancient Vedic traditions and the ancient Vedic sciences. You know,
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the number one thing for staying healthy forever. An ancient
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Vada science is having a positive mindset. So these three
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things are like a trifecta. We understand a consciousness premium
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materia of this reality, our mental faculties interact with our
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perceived physical experience, and our perspective is going to ultimately
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be the tool that chisels the experience that we have here.
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have the power and the ability to manifest I mean
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you can just look at this right here. And then
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even another thing too, I kind of bring up in
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this for all the people who think this is woo woo,
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just look at the place ebo and the no sebo effects. Okay,
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And these are the two biggest hardest pieces of evidence
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that are available to us. There's tons of studies on them,
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you know, tons of evidence when it comes to them
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that we either have the ability to heal or harm ourselves, okay,
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based on our perspective when it comes to a medical situation. Okay,
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So this is kind of an example of manifestation right there.
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You know what I mean, You're manifesting a positive outcome
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from a medic situation based on your perspective, or you're
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manifesting a negative outcome in a medical situation based on
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your perspective. So I mean again again, you know and
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also too, so how would you manifest? And this is
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this is this is a tried and true method. It's
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a basic one. It's actually a very old one. It
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goes back for a very long time. And of course
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a lot of people have their different ones. I have
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different ones I utilize. But the the head, heart and hands,
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it's very very simple method. Man. You know, you think
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about what you want in your mind and then you
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bring your heart into that alignment. You feel with your
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heart that you truly want this. Because here's the thing.
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The universe, slash, the divine is. It wants to help
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you succeed. It wants you to be happy. It wants
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you to trust it. That is the number one thing.
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And uh and then you're the third part. Your hands.
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Now your hands. It can be literal hands if you
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need to build it, you need to work to get there,
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or it can be metaphorical. You know, it can be
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figurative with your hands. You know, there's more ways to
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use the hands than just in a physical context. So
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this is a tried and true method. And I guarantee
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you if you develop the understanding that this is a
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consciousness based reality, your mental faculties interact with your perceived
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external experience. You keep a positive perspective, and you keep
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yourself in that head, heart and hands alignment, You're going
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to manifest whatever you want. And I think, really, what
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a lot of people get into it is there's this
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deception going around with instant manifestation. Now, is instant manifestation possible? Yes,
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it is. I've done it a couple of times on accident.
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I have not mastered it, you know, or anything like that.
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But the thing about manifestation is it takes focus and energy.
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You have to put that focus and that energy into
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what you're trying to manifest. I mean great examples. When
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I started the show, I started reaching out to everybody
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I could shoot. I even reached out to people who
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I know would not accept coming on the show because
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I had like two three followers at the time. But
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I still put out all of my energy and all
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of my focus into building this and look at where
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it is today. So it is, and I think people
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it's that instant gratification Chris, like they you know, even
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when it comes to manifestation here in the third density,
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you're gonna have a little bit of a delay. It
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just is what it is. We have a delay here.
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So that would be my way to demystifying manifestation, Chris,
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because there's a lot of I mean, dude, it's it's
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we're now at the plethora of evidence and theories showcasing
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that we are in a consciousness based reality, and it's
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all there. It's in Scientific American Science, it's in the
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scientific journal Scientific American, it's in the scientific journal Nature,
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every kind of hard source. Anybody wants to see, it's there.
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They just need to look for it.
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There's obviously a collective change that's occurred in society around
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the planet after the events of twenty twenty. Folks like
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yourself and I that have eyes to see can look
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back at everything and say, conflict and collective trauma has
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essentially caused an awakening in most people. We talked before
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about how there may be this greater force that is
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attempting a now chemical transformation of humanity, and the only
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way that that can occur is collective trauma, putting us
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through these conflicts and forcing growth from our consciousness because
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it seems that for the longest time we were comfortable,
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there was nothing like COVID. There was nothing like what
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we're experiencing now, at least in our lifetimes. We have
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this massive shakeup and people start to become a air
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of things and everything starts to change. That again, is
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one of the greater questions. Was this the cause of
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some greater force? Was it the collective consciousness? Do the
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parasitic ruling class have any idea what they've started and
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the ramifications of everything. It's actually many questions, but it
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seems to be all connected.
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I would completely agree. Man. So here's the thing, and
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this is the thing I've learned in the now shoot
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almost now, going on eighteen years of my spiritual evolution.
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Trauma and intensely emotional situations equal spiritual alchemy. Now we
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look at the subjective experience that we have and the
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healing that we do. You know a lot of us
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who you know who are on our spiritual evolutions. We've
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we've we've gone through some of the darkest depths that
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this existence has to offer. Man, you know, we've been
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we've been through some of the darkest things, the darkest situations.
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I mean, shit, I spent time in jail. I almost
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died a few times. I mean, I can't tell you.
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I can't tell you how many people I talk to
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who are on their spiritual evolution that they've been through
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the deepest, darkest moundy as depths that this existence has
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to offer. But look at what those depths did to them.
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It transformed them, It pushed them towards the light. And
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that's why I talk about a lot of my shows
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the reciprocative relationship between Lucifer and Christ. You know, when
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you look at Lucifer as the tester of humanity, he
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wants to test us and he wants to put us
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through trials. And you know, we as humanity, we go
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through these tests, in these trials, and we get compressed,
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we get spread thin, wow, you know, we get trauma.
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are forged into this awakened state, and then we look
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towards the light. We start to look towards the divine
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and some people say it's Christ if you want to
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call it that or whatever it is. I mean, we
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get pushed there, and we're even talking about on a
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subjective level. Now, you know, the thing about humans is
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this is how we learn, This is how we grow.
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We have to face obstacles, we have to face struggles.
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And I even brought up this philosophical question. Now, let's say,
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and I'm not talking about the spiritual realms when I
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say this, because I know a lot of people want
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to say this. The first thing is, well, in the
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spiritual realms, it can be that way, but no, we're
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talking about here in the physical realms, the human experience.
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If you were born into peace and all you ever
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knew was peace and bliss, could you even learn or
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even grasp the concept of appreciating it? Could you and that?
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And that is actually one of the biggest thing, you know,
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a philosophical question that I asked, because if you're born
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into something and it's all you know and you know
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nothing else, you know by you know, you can't truly
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grasp what it means to appreciate, you can't true grasp
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what it means to grow. So so that's why this
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is the way humanity learns, you know, they they we
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have to learn through being compressed, We have to learn
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through going through struggles. This is what causes that, not
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just subjective spiritual alchemy, but also the collective spiritual alchemy.
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Don't get me wrong, I did the parasite class have
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a hand in it? I mean yeah, I think there's
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you know, there there's a you know, one of the
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biggest things we understand on our spiritual evolution, and this
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is still a tough pill for a lot of our
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conscious collective to swallow, is both sides of the polarity
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spectrum ultimately service creation.
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You know, when.
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We're when when we're talking about when we're talking about
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the divine, the all is mind, Okay, it is non dualistic,
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all right, And and you know, we I feel like
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in our community, we still still a lot of people
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try to compartmentalize things into the two boxes absolute good
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or absolute evil, and ultimately what they're still failing to
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realize is that both these boxes service the divine, they
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service the universe, they service the creation. It's part of
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the human whether it's an experiment and experience whatever we're
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facing down here. And I know, I know there's a
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lot of people who are like, well, you know, what
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about the children, And I understand that, but that that's
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also you know that catalyzed your awakening? Did it not
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once you've found out about that negative thing that existed.
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You woke up and you started to learn, did you not.
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So in that sense, even though it is not a
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great thing that's happening in that case, I don't condone
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it at all. It ultimately contributed it to the growth
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of humanity for them to learn and to become aware
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of this, you know, because now they want to we
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want to put a stop now that now that we're
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aware of it, we can put a stop to it,
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you know, and so like, and that's why I think, honestly,
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like you're saying, you know, yes, there's a greater forest
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play here, most definitely, and I think it co opts
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both sides of the polarity spectrum, from what we would
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call the light and what we would call the dark,
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to work together to cause this collective spiritual alchemy that
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we're undergoing. That's exactly what I do think is happening.
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It's such a special time and like I was saying earlier,
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now is definitely a time for folks like us to
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get out there and create and bring something to the table, because,
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as I say all the time, each and every one
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of us has that one thing to offer the rest
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of the planet, the one useful thing that we can do,
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or many useful things. But everybody, I believe has at
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least that one special thing that they can bring to
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the table. But I want to hear your recent experience
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with mister Toad's wild ride. First of all, for those
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that may not be familiar, tell us about this compound.
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So, guys, buffo, I'll so, I know a lot of
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you out there have probably heard of mushrooms which have
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actually psilocybin. The technical molecular name for psilocybin is four
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h O d m T. Sounds familiar, you guys. A
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lot of you have heard of d MT out there. So,
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and then we have regular d MT, uh, you know,
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which is very familiar. Of course, you know, Joe Rogan
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has popularized it. A few other people have popularized, uh,
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you know, the use of d MT to achieve altered
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states of consciousness. But there is another compound that is
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kind of trumps them all, you know, and that is
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five m e oh d m T trump DMT five
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and trump did the enlightened don But but uh, but
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what was I gonna say?
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But no?
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And five M O d MT. We do produce it
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in our bodies like d MT uh, but just not
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in as large amounts as we produce in dogenous n
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M d MT, and it actually found it's found in
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ayahasca and trace amounts. You know, a lot of the
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mimosa plants and mosastillis and the other plants they put
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into the ayahasca brew have trace amounts of five meo
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d MT. And then you have Yopo seeds, the yopo
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the shamanic snuff from the Amazon, and those seeds are
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actually a combination of regular NMD d MT, five meo
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d MT and buffotinine, which is actually another form of
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d MT. It's a lesser known form, but the buffo
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al varius frog is actually one of the best sources
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to get pure straight five me eo d MT. And
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you know, I remember it was always funny, Chris, because
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when I had the experience, I'll just say this up front,
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it felt like every psychedelic experience I had had before
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that was training me for that moment. That was it
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was a weird sense of deja voo going into it.
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And you know my opinion on this compound before I
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ever did it, because I write up on it, and
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you know, I read a few experience reports and things
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like that, just seeing how profoundly powerful it is. You know,
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I decided that I would not seek it and I
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would let it find me when the time is right.
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That was kind of my mentality on it, because I
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was I could see from the get go it was
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just such a sacred, spiritual experience. I wanted to make
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sure that I was ready to embark on something that
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sacred and lo and behold, it found me. It found me.
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the compound, and she is a trained shopman in the compound,
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and she came out here. She reached out to me
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originally six months ago and told me she was coming
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out here for psychedelic Science in Denver for maps, and
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she asked if I wanted to give it a go,
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and I said, okay, it found me. It must be
477
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meant to be. So I said, sure, I'll start preparing myself.
478
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And it was about six months of preparation.
479
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Man.
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I did a lot of healing. I did a lot
481
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of shadow work, you know, I did some shadow work
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00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.319
Kundalini Koreas to kind of get my subtle body ready
483
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:19.079
for the experience and you know, we last Sunday we
484
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.720
drove out to lock loanmand here in Colorado found a
485
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fresh spot in the woods and which was really cool.
486
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:28.400
We like sat in a little portal. We were surrounded
487
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by trees with this open area where the sun was
488
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beating down and had a built in altar. It was
489
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super cool and it was perfect. And so basically, the
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one thing I will say about this compound is the
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ceremony of it adds to it for sure. The blessings,
492
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the indigenous prayers, you know, the clearing of the space
493
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definitely sets the tone for it. So that's why I would, honestly,
494
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if you're gonna try this compound, I recommend you doing
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it in a ceremonial setting. Absolutely. I don't care how
496
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experienced you are with psychedelics, because what I'm about to
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tell you, you're gonna want to be in a cool
498
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setting for this. And so basically how it went down
499
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is I had three doses. I had three doses total,
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each dose thirty milligrams, so ninety milligrams total for the
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whole experience. And it was.
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How are you how are you taking? Are you ingesting?
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You're actually you're vaping it out. So basically what you do.
504
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.359
What you do is you do this breath work beforehand
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00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:34.640
to relax your vagus nerve and your parasympathetic nervous system.
506
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:38.960
So it's kind of like a and you do ten
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of these breaths right and at the tenth breath, she
508
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:44.839
holds the vapor up to you and she starts to
509
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light it, and then you start to inhale it very slowly,
510
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like slower than you would take a long hit, slower
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than you would smoke any inhale any kind of smoke.
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You have to inhale it very slowly, and she counts
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to twenty as you inhale, and then after the twentieth
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twentieth us second, she says, pull, pull, pull the rest
515
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and you'll hold it in. You'll hold your nose and
516
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.279
you got to hold it in for ten seconds and
517
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then you'll drop back onto the pillow and you'll get
518
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:17.359
cascaded into the experience. So funny enough, my first dose,
519
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:21.319
I was ten seconds in before I already started feeling it,
520
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:22.960
and I was like, oh my goodness. I was like,
521
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am I even gonna make it to the twenty seconds?
522
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So I just pushed it. I pushed, and I pushed
523
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and I pushed, and then I took the final pull,
524
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and I held my nose and I laid back onto
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the pillow. And this was the experience of the first dose.
526
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I don't know if there's a way to describe being peacefully, delicately,
527
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.200
gently and tactfully disassembled and obliterated by the divine Source,
528
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:53.519
but that's probably the best way that I can describe it.
529
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The person who was Stephen was no more, My attachments
530
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:02.880
were no more, the memory of my human existence were
531
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:09.440
no more, and I was a pure source being and
532
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:16.759
I merged with source consciousness. And I had the perspective
533
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:23.079
as if I was source consciousness, which is very hard
534
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.720
to explain. I can try to put it into words,
535
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.640
but I was literally the all his mind. I was
536
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.559
the all his mind. There was nothing else but me,
537
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:40.079
the all his mind. And it was so profoundly beautiful,
538
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:43.279
terrifying and beautiful at the same time. That's kind of
539
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:45.960
the best way I can describe it, because even though
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it was gentle and delicate, I was completely seared off
541
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:55.079
my human identity, was completely seared off of my true nature,
542
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.240
like in just the almost the flash of an instant,
543
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:01.480
and I was sitting there as the all is mind,
544
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:03.720
and I started. What was really crazy is I actually
545
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:06.240
got a almost like a play by play because we
546
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:11.160
were talking about manifestation earlier, about how manifestation works, and
547
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:13.759
I saw how I was sitting there and I would
548
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:18.200
have this thought form of something, and then this thought
549
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:23.200
form turned into this energy and it like swirke through me,
550
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:26.640
and then it's the energy from that swirl started to
551
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:31.079
move out into my field that was around me, and
552
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:35.519
it started to pick up other pieces of energy and
553
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.799
it started to grow. So that was almost like a
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I was getting like a play by play on how
555
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:47.079
manifestation works. And at this point, you know, because the experience,
556
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:49.079
you know, off of one dose is only ten to
557
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.759
fifteen minutes, I start to feel myself slipping back. So
558
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:56.160
we have a symbol for more medicine. If you're in
559
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.920
the experience and you want to take another another dose
560
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.200
of the medicine, you got to go like this. So
561
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I feel the experience starting to kind of like slightly
562
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.119
wind down, and I was like, no, I want to
563
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.400
stay here, So I immediately just freaking went like this,
564
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:14.960
and uh so then I I repeated the thing. You know,
565
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I didn't have to do the breath work that time,
566
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.319
but I had to do the twenty second long inhale hold,
567
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:24.880
sit back, and then the second dose actually propelled me
568
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:29.279
into the white luminous light at that point, and I
569
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:34.960
was in the light, and even though I was experiencing
570
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being source consciousness, I was the always mind. There was
571
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.799
still the perspective of Stephen that was with me, but
572
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:49.319
it was like almost like secondary And then I was
573
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:53.359
almost coaching myself. It was so strange, like I was
574
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.720
like coaching myself from like me being all his mind
575
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:03.200
talking to the perspective of And I started getting these
576
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:07.480
flashes of my life. And I started getting these flashes
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of my life from the time I was a child.
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There was a flash of me and my little brother
579
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playing out in the front lawn of like the very
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first house I can ever remember. That I lived in
581
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:25.239
many different interesting events, and the source consciousness part of
582
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:28.400
me looked at Stephen and said, well, yes, you have
583
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.679
a job to do here. Don't forget to truly enjoy
584
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:35.719
and cherish this beautiful experience you're undergoing. Do you know
585
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:40.519
what I think is the most important. It's not who
586
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.519
hears you, It's not you know who knows you it's
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00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.480
how you make people feel, the way you make them smile,
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00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:54.000
the memory they carry with you, they carry of you
589
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.840
with them, you know, the way you might have made
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00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:03.480
somebody's day, you know, leading by example, the courage, the bravery.
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That's what I find most important, and you should hold
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that most important also. And I remember like it was
593
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almost like it was because I was Source, but I'm
594
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:20.519
talking to the protective perspective that Steven, which is it
595
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.199
was just the most bizarre thing in the world. It
596
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.440
was It's like, that's the best way I can describe it.
597
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:30.079
It was nuts, and I mean and then you know again,
598
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:35.000
I started to feel the experience pull back, like it
599
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.079
was I was starting to like come back. The ego
600
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.079
was starting to come back in. And immediately I was
601
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:44.079
like nope, and I did the handsa. I was like,
602
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:47.280
I need I'm not done here. We have some more
603
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things to do. So I leaned over and I took
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the other hit and then this time this was the
605
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:58.559
most powerful dose. So I was thrown back into the light.
606
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And the best way I can describe it is source
607
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:08.400
consciousness took its hand and like if it had a hand,
608
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:10.119
this is just the best way I could describe it
609
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.599
and put it on my chest, and I kid you not, Chris.
610
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:18.440
When this happened, this light started to form within me,
611
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:22.239
and it started to see it like literally burn away
612
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.960
all of the pain that I've been through, all of
613
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:30.000
the trauma I've been through, you know a lot of
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00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:33.280
at these aspects of my shadow that normal will no
615
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.280
longer serve me anymore at this point in my life
616
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.039
that I'm in, because that was one of the intentions
617
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:41.840
I had going into this experience. And I remember it
618
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:47.519
was so it was like beautifully painful. That's the best
619
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:51.840
way I can describe it. It was beautifully painful. And
620
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:56.159
I just started manically and hysterically crying like a baby
621
00:36:56.440 --> 00:37:00.199
while it started going down, because it was like it
622
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.800
is like it was searing away that the pain, just
623
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:05.840
like everything I had been through, like and it was
624
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:09.000
searing away these aspects. I'm not even going to go
625
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.119
in the lines to say it's reformatted my ego a
626
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.239
little bit too. I think that was part of that
627
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:19.159
experience too, when the light started just glowing within me,
628
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:25.519
and it was it was so amazing. And then then
629
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this happened, so I was greeted by my higher self
630
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:40.320
and I was looking at this being, This very tall
631
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:46.039
being had wings, had a very fiery aura, and we
632
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:50.320
looked at each other and it said to me, you
633
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:54.719
remember now, don't you? And I said, yeah, I do.
634
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:59.679
And then we merged, and that's the best way I
635
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:04.480
can describe it. We merged. And after we merged, that
636
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:09.840
was my last dose, and I started coming back. And
637
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:12.800
the craziest thing, man, when I came back, I opened
638
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:18.159
my eyes and I saw the sun and it was
639
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:21.559
literally like the first time I had ever laid eyes
640
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.599
on it. And I remember I was looking at the sun,
641
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and I was looking up at the clouds and I
642
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:31.920
was seeing them swirl, and it was like the first
643
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:34.880
time I had ever laid eyes on the clouds. And
644
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.000
then I like, get up and I start to look around,
645
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:39.559
and I see these trees just surrounding me that were
646
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.719
just so green, greener than any other tree I had
647
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.119
ever seen. They seemed even different from the trees that
648
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:49.079
I just literally saw before the experience, the same trees,
649
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.639
but they seemed different. They were brighter, greener. And I
650
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.119
remember I looked down and there was this little tiny
651
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:57.079
plant next to the mat where I was laying on it,
652
00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:58.639
and I just like went and I held it in
653
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.599
my hands and I started crying like a baby dude,
654
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:06.559
because I was like, it was almost as if I
655
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:11.639
was reborn. It was almost freaking as if I was reborn.
656
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.119
I was born into this new set of eyes I
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00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:18.840
was born into. You know, my ego was reformatted. I
658
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:21.800
got freaking I merged with Source. I experienced what it
659
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:25.400
was like to be Source. Okay, you know this is
660
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.280
this was pivotally life changing for me. And I remember
661
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.199
as I'm like, you know, sitting there and coming back,
662
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:36.559
I just could just say to myself, this is going
663
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:40.159
to change everything. This is going to change everything. This was,
664
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this was beyond and I'm going to tell you this.
665
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.599
It has. It has changed everything. I'm have yet to
666
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:54.519
understand the magnitude of how much it has changed. It's reappearing,
667
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.400
it's showcasing itself every day as every day goes on
668
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:01.400
beyond the experience. And the one thing I found out
669
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about this stuff on accident was it's going to make
670
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.639
you more sensitive to other psychedelics. Because I took a
671
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microdose before work on Tuesday, just three hundred and fifty
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00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.800
milligrams about bino penis envy and I'm at work and
673
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.239
I'm like, I weighed that out. I looked at it.
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That was three hundred and fifty milligrams. I was like,
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this is like I took like half a gram or
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like almost zero point six grams. So this is something
677
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that you know, I want to warn people about too
678
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:32.800
who go to the experience. It's going to give you
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a weird cross tolerance to other psychedelic compounds. And the
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number one thing I took from it, and this was
681
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the number one message you know that I took from
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the whole experience, Chris.
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Was.
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Love is everything. Love is not just an emotion. It
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is a force, and it is a power. And if
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we are to harness this divine love, fully channel it
687
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:08.159
into the avatars that we currently are, and master it
688
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:12.559
and impart it into every facet of this reality, it
689
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would be the literal kill shot for this illusionary reality
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00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:20.440
the parasite class has placed on us. It would be
691
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.599
the literal kill shot. You know, I think, you know,
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00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.440
when we look for the solutions to the issues you
693
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.800
know that we currently face as humanity here, we're we're
694
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.719
so obsessed with the external, We're so obsessed with you know,
695
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:36.519
what can we do to change the government. You're not
696
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.880
going to change this government, man, you know, like for
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00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:42.079
you're not going to change it, dude, Like you know,
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00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:44.559
it's beating a horse dead. You're not going to change
699
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.639
the government, okay, Like you know, like you know, focusing
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00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:51.920
on conspiracies and just merely on only on conspiracies like
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00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.000
that's fine and dandy. I know that helped you wake up,
702
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.559
but you've got to move past going to lead to
703
00:41:56.639 --> 00:42:01.360
madness and dude, it is people being black pilled. And
704
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:03.239
you know, the ultimate way if we want to kill
705
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:07.039
shot this and we want to kill shot this illusionary
706
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:09.880
matrix reality that we're stuck in, we need to each
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00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:12.559
and every one of us who has the divine spark
708
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.639
within them don't how to channel that divine love into
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00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:17.559
us fully and impart it here, and that in and
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00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:20.039
of itself will shatter the Mattrix man. And that is
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the biggest thing that I took from that experience, right And.
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As you very well know, and if you've been listening
713
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:29.920
to this show for any amount of time, I've had
714
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:33.880
some extreme success with psychedelics as well. And I don't
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condone drug user psychedelics and I'm not saying for anyone
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to go out and try these substances. This is what
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worked for my journey, this is what has worked for
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Steven's journey and many others. And if you are going
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to go that route, please be responsible, Please do your research,
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Please do it respectfully, Please do it in a spiritual setting.
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But it is such a powerful way to come to
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these realizations about yourself and these awarenesses and propel your
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journey in a way that is absolutely indescribable. And that's
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what I'll say about that. But I also want to
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hear about what you got going on with your new business.
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Tell us all about how this came about.
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Absolutely one thing. I just want to add to what
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you said before we hop into that. And I'm going
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to say this, guys, five meo DMT is not a
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party drug. None of it. Should do not rave. No, no, dude,
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I'm gonna say not, even mutioned dot. Do not go
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to a festival or a rave and hit five MEO
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DMT outside of a ceremonial setting. My recommendation is to
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keep that compound ceremonial and keep it sacred if you're
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going to experience it. But the business man, so yes,
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I you know of course. You know me, man, I've
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you know, been very much into Kundalini yoga for a
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while now, and uh, you know, my health and my
739
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fitness and all that, and uh, you know, I've had
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enough of just complaining and whining about detesting the nine
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to five hamster real lifestyle. So I decided to take action.
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So I started up a business called Big Body, Mind
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and Spirit. Now, the reason why it's called BEG Body,
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Mind and Spirit is this is what we can call
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a real, true trinity that we experience every day. This
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is a trinity that we want in alignment when we
747
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have a healthy body. Okay, And you can even attest
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to this, Chris, getting your health in check increases your
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spiritual and energetic frequency by default. It just it is
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a default process of getting your health in check. So
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you get your health in a good way and you
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keep it in a sound place, your spiritual, your mental
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and your energetic health is going to is going to
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blossom just by default. And then we have the mind. Okay,
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you know we operate through our mind. Here we talk
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about you know, the all is mind and mental health
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is a very pivotal and important thing for us to
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be happy human beings. So this would be the excuse me.
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Second part of our trifecta or the trinity is the
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mental health portion, because we want to have good mental health.
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We want to have a positive mindset. You know, we
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want to to you know, love ourselves. We want to
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love the people we're with, and you know, we want
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to impart that love on everybody else. And then we
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have the spirit. You know, we're spiritual beings, and you
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know what constitutes spiritual health altered states of consciousness, whether
767
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it whether it be through antheogens or sober means. There's
768
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sober ways to reach altered states of consciousness, and we're
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going to talk about those next, you know, but altered
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states of consciousness are really pivotal for spiritual health. You know,
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it's good to take a break from this dimension, you know,
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and get out of the third density for a little
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bit and go into your own little pocket dimension and
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freaking you know, get to know yourself on that spiritual levels.
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So really, when we're talking about this trinity of body, mind,
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and spirit, these are the three most important factors that
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we have here. That's you know, that's the most important
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to our overall being, this human being.
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That we are.
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And so what this business work works with is we
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have life coaching. We have holistic life coaching, you know.
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And the one thing I want to tell them about
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I want to just throw out there to people is this.
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If you are going to hire a life coach and
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you're going to go down that path to help yourself,
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you must expect honesty. Okay. I cannot do right by
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you if you cannot handle the honesty. Okay. So that's
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just one of the biggest things. Now, don't get me wrong,
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I'm not going to be an asshole to you. I'm
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not going to do anything like that. But I'm going
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to tell you how it is, because ultimately that's what
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causes that transformation. Because even just telling someone how it is,
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even at a polite it causes that emotional tension. It
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causes that little bit of spiritual alchemy to occur. And
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you know, one of the biggest things I talk about
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the lessons that I've learned in life, none of them
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were ever delivered in a sugarcoated manner, none of them.
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They were all delivered in a very honest way. And
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that's what caused me to get to where I am today.
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So we're going to have life coaching, We're going to
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have you know, total body, mind, spirit health programs, right
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you know, we want to address each area of this
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trinity that we experience. So you know, we want to
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address the health of the body, we want to address
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the health of the mind, and we want to address
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the health of the spirit. So and these plans are
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going to be tailored and customized to your life where
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you're at right now. You know what your schedule is, Okay,
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you know, you are going to get a personalized plan
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that is made specifically for you. It's not a template
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that we're going to use on anybody else. So that's
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the benefit fit you're going to have of working with me,
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is you're going to get something that's designed and personalized
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strictly for you. Nothing else like it out there. And
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so that's why I do think this is going to
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be great for those because you know, I feel a
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lot of our times, even with life coaching, even with
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in this health department, we try to utilize a one
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size fits all method for everybody, you know, and it
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even happens in the spiritual community and the conscious collective too,
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you know, which we try to we try to utilize
822
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a one size fits all method, but we know that
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everybody's different, every being is different. So that's why these
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programs will be tailored to your unique factors. They're going
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to be tailored to your life, your lifestyle, your schedule,
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whether you got kids or you don't have kids, whether
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you work at nights.
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Or your work days.
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You know, this is all taken into account in these programs,
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you know. And then also what we're going to have too.
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I talked about altered states of consciousness. We are going
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to have Kundalini yoga classes, and we are going to
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have breath work classes. And you know these are two
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Actually I would feel that, you know, meditation in general
835
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is going to be it sits in the middle of
836
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mental inspirits.
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Even are you going to be offering these online?
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Yes, I will be offering these online. Yes I will be.
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I will be offering these online. We can do online.
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And I have packages too. You know, if you want
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the whole package, you know, you want the life coaching,
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you want four to one on one sessions a month,
843
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you want your so we will either do thirty day,
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sixty day or ninety day tailored plants, you know, depending
845
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on what you're looking for if you just want to
846
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try it for thirty days and see if it works
847
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for you, we offer that. Or if you if you
848
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think you want to be in it for the long haul,
849
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this is something you're going to do for a while.
850
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I can tailor it even up to a year for
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you if that's something that you want. And then, but
852
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as I was saying, you know in meditation, so Kundalini
853
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yoga is a great way to access a sober, altered
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state of consciousness. You actually utilize your endogenis DMT in
855
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this practice, and you actually utilize too, your indogenous cannabinoids
856
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and through the Cudlina yoga practice. What happens is actually
857
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what we do with Kundalini yoga is it's doing a
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trauma response in a controlled setting. So you are putting
859
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the body through a trauma response, but you yourself are not
860
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experiencing trauma. So what this does is it ends up.
861
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It causes a somatic response in your body. And that's
862
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what psychedelics do too, is they cause a somatic response
863
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in your body, but Kudelini yoga does it without the psychedelics,
864
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and it causes you to release and your fascia opens up.
865
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And it stretches because we store a lot of our
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trauma in our fascia and in our vegus nerve, and
867
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CUDLINI works on the vegas nerve as well. And ultimately
868
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what Kundalini yoga will do once you begin to gain
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mastery of it, so our cerebral spinal fluid. A lot
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of people call it the christ oil, or you know,
871
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a lot of people call it the sacred nectar. Whatever,
872
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there's many different names for it. It actually holds are
873
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a lot of indogenous DMT and indogenous cannabinoids, and through
874
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this practice, you will work that fluid up your spinal
875
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cavity into your hypothalamists and in case you don't know
876
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the eye of raw, the eye of horus, it's where
877
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your pineogland is, your pituitary gland is, you know your HPTA,
878
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your hypothalamus, pituitary access, all of that, and you are
879
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:32.599
just sending a boatload of indogenous DMT and a boatload
880
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of indogenous cannabinoids right into that cavity in your brain.
881
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No m AOI inhibitor needed or anything like that. So
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that's that's why I can't talk highly enough about Kundelini
883
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yoga but that's also we will be offering classes on
884
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how to do it, and we're also going to be
885
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offering breath work. Breathwork is another you know, natural DMT releaser,
886
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and in fact, when you're doing it through the hard
887
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:58.360
breath work and the lungs, you're actually releasing the DMT
888
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that's stored in your lung. You know, d MT is
889
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produced in many different areas of our body. It's produced
890
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in our lungs, our stomach, our our our liver. There's
891
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a few places that it has receptor sites and attachment
892
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attachment sites in our body. And you know, breathwork is
893
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also a great way, a great thing for spiritual health.
894
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Breathwork also has a somatic response to it. You're putting
895
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yourself through a trauma response while not going through trauma,
896
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and you're basically building up yourself through these practices, and
897
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we're going to offer classes on that. I will be
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giving dietary advice too, you know, for people who are
899
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not sure about what to eat or you know, how
900
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to go about eating. And I mean, the biggest thing
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I'm gonna say, I'm gonna tell everybody is everybody is
902
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different when it comes to that. So you know, we'll
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have to kind of tinker around and figure out what
904
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works out for you you but ultimately, this is where
905
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my passion lies in life, Chris, This is where my
906
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passion lies and helping people heal, helping people be the
907
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best version of themselves. You know, you can become the
908
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best version of you, the best husband, you could be,
909
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the best father, you could be the best family member
910
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:24.159
you could be, you know, and continuously improve and shrive
911
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:28.440
in your day to day life and live your most joyful,
912
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abundant timeline. I mean, who doesn't want that? So, you know,
913
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So that's why I'm I decided to take this on.
914
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You know, I don't see anybody really doing anything else
915
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like this, and you know, I think this is going
916
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to help so many people heal. It's going to help
917
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so many people find their greater sense of self. And
918
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:50.639
it's good to know that you can tap into these
919
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:54.519
heightened and altered states of consciousness without having to take
920
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a compound. You know, you can utilize this. So for
921
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even people who want to stay quote unquote drug free,
922
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that's okay, you know, you can you can still achieve
923
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these states of consciousness through Kundalini yoga or breath work.
924
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So and that's what I'm offering, man. I mean the
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packages kind of go. Like I said, you can have
926
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four one on one sessions with me a month. You
927
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.320
know you're either thirty, sixty, ninety or however long. You
928
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want a total body, mind and spirit health program that
929
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gives you three Kundalini classes a week, that gives you
930
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two breath work classes a week, and that gives you
931
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diet help and advice. That is the total package. Of course,
932
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if you want to piece it and you only want
933
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to try certain aspects of it as well, you know,
934
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I'm completely fine with that. And also too, I do
935
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a two week trial. So for those who are interested
936
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in maybe giving it a go, but not sure they
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want to, you know, one hundred percent put it all
938
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in just yet, I can work you up a quick
939
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two week program, man, and you know you can. And
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that'll include one session with me in those two weeks,
941
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and it'll be you know, your own tailored basic body,
942
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mind and spirit health program. You'll get one Kundalini yoga class,
943
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you'll get one breathwork class out of the trial period.
944
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And that's if you're if you if you just want
945
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to give it a try and if you feel like
946
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it's something that you don't want to do after that
947
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completely fine. There's no contracts man, it's your free will.
948
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You know, if you want to back out, you can. However,
949
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if you want after the two week trial, you want
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to go all in and you want it, you want
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to do this with me, I will cut you a
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deal on the packages because you went through that two
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week trial program and you tested out my program. I
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will work with you on a on a pricing for
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whatever package that you would like.
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Awesome, man, well, this is so great that you're doing this.
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Like you said, I think this is so important for people.
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It's such a stepping stone for sovereignty and individuality and
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creativity and getting to where you want to be. I
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didn't realize how much spirituality affected the betterment of everything
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else in my life. It's all connected. And once you
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get reconnected with your spiritual side, once you get connected
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with your higher self and start to become aware, everything
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can change in your life. And it's amazing that you're
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offering this, so thank you for doing that. We'll have
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the links so everybody can check out more about you
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and get in touch with you if they want There's
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one more thing I wanted to get your thoughts on
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before we close out today. I almost left a rant
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on Facebook this morning because of some of the things
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that I'm noticing, but I decided to just talk about
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it here tonight. What I've noticed with some folks who
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have been Awakening since at least twenty twenty, and they
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have decided to give it a go in the independent
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content creation space, podcasting things of that nature, and for
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whatever reason, they are not getting the success or notoriety
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that they believe that they should. I couldn't tell you why,
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but the problem that I'm seeing is they tend to
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be lashing out at those that are having success with
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the podcast. They tend to be finding faults and problems
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and critiquing their work and doing it very publicly in
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a very childish way sometimes, and I think to myself,
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if they would put that much focus on their own
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work and what they're trying to do for themselves, they
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00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:47.800
may find more success. I'm just very tired of seeing
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my friends and colleagues at each other's throats over becoming
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successful at something they're passionate at and having problems with
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00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:03.000
the way they're doing it when the person attempting it
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00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:06.360
is he and even trying it for themselves. So just
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a rant and observation that I saw, and I'd love
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to get your thoughts on it.
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You know what else I've seen too, Man, I've seen
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00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:18.119
people who are and I'm sure you're gonna there's a
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name that's gonna come in your head. We don't have
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00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:22.440
to speak about it, but uh, there are people who
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00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:25.159
aren't even content creators who are doing that to other
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00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:28.760
content creators and trying to, like it, trying to like,
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00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:30.719
you know, put them on front street, trying to like
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00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:34.719
you know, really discredit and degrade their work. So that's
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00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:36.760
another thing. So I'm kind of with you on that too.
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00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:39.719
And there's a name that comes to mind. You blocked him,
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00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:43.159
He blocked me. Funny story on that. But uh, but
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00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.559
what do I think about that? Man? Is Honestly, this
1004
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:50.440
is what I'm gonna say. They still hold the victim mentality,
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00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:52.559
and that's a lot of what it is. The victim
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00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:56.559
mentality still really runs rampant in our community. Man. It's
1007
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:58.760
a shame because you know, a lot of these people
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00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:01.400
who are awakening, you know, they should be gaining the
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00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:04.679
understanding that they're they're in control of way more than
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00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:07.880
they think they are. And let me tell you this, man,
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00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:09.599
when I first started, like we were just saying earlier,
1012
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:13.559
I had three followers. I was reaching out to David Ike,
1013
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:20.440
tempoole Jirogajob freaking Mattias de Stefano like I didn't even care.
1014
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.360
I didn't even care because I was like, I don't
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00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:25.559
care if they say no, all right, but I'm gonna
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00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:28.280
reach out to like as many people as I can.
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00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:30.199
One in tent is gonna say yes, the one in
1018
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:32.119
ten rule. One in ten is going to come on.
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00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:35.400
They're going to agree on it, okay. And it's really
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00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:39.199
where your head, heart and hands are. Man. Energy goes
1021
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:41.400
where the focus flows. I mean energy flows where the
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00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:43.599
focus goes, you know. And like, if you're focusing on
1023
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:48.519
just degrading other content creators and I'm bitching about your
1024
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:51.880
lack of success, that's where your focus is, and that's
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00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:55.239
where your energy's going. And now if you actually turned
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00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:57.719
around and took the energy and the focus that you're
1027
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:01.559
putting into degrading other content creators and and bitching about
1028
01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:04.360
your lack of success, and putting that energy and actually
1029
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:08.119
doing your content and doing your show you know what
1030
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.960
I mean, I guarantee you you would see more things
1031
01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:13.559
that come out of it. I mean kind of how
1032
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:15.320
I rolled with it, man, is the first year, like
1033
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:18.039
I was telling you, I reached how I work with
1034
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:20.159
Manifestation when I came to the show was this I
1035
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.760
my first year. I went hard. I grinded it out.
1036
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:26.760
I was doing two, three shows a week. I was
1037
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:30.719
I was reaching out to anybody and everybody. I could
1038
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:32.840
you know what I mean, and just build it. I mean, shoot,
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01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:34.880
I even reached out to you through that whole the
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01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:36.920
whole thing and all of that, and that's how we're
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01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:42.280
here today. And you know, and after that first year,
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01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:47.079
I cultivated enough of that energy flow to where I
1043
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:51.119
was like, Okay, let's maybe drop down to one to
1044
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:54.119
two shows a week, but do better quality content. To
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01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:58.280
do better quality shows. And then I started doing more
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01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:02.119
research and doing things like that, You're going to get
1047
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:06.360
what you put into it. Bottom line, You're going to
1048
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:08.320
get what you put into it, man. And like you know,
1049
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:10.800
right now, I'm in a little bit of a lull period.
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01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.320
But I'm okay with that because I'm getting the business started.
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01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:16.199
I'm taking care of some other things going on in
1052
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:20.599
my life. But you know, but if you I'm choosing
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01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:23.639
that right now, I'm still making content, I'm still doing shows,
1054
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:27.119
but I'm kind of branching off and I'm taking care
1055
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:29.039
of some other things on the side while I'm doing
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01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:33.320
that until I hop back in. And but you're going
1057
01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:34.840
to ultimately get what you put out of it, man,
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01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:37.000
And you know, like, and this is what I'll say,
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01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:39.760
you have to have time management, like how I ended
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01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:42.239
up doing it too, Man, when I was at my
1061
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:48.079
downtime at work. I remember those days. I'm fucking yeah,
1062
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:51.440
I'm researching, I'm fucking making thumbnails for the shows. I'm
1063
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:54.519
reaching out to potential guests. What are you doing with
1064
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:58.360
your downtime? Are you doom scrolling and just you know,
1065
01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:01.880
complaining to every everybody else about your lack of success
1066
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:04.840
or you actually trying to do something about it. And
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01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:06.679
that's the other thing too, I'll say in there is
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01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.559
time management and utilizing your time wisely, you know, So
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01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.599
like that's that's going to be another play in it too, man.
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01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:15.800
But ultimately, my opinion is you're going to get what
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01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:18.039
you put into it, you know. And if you're putting
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01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:21.119
in your your your heart and soul, truly into what
1073
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:23.400
you're doing. You're going to see your heart and soul
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01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:27.480
manifest into this existence. If you're half asking it and
1075
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:33.400
holding the victim mentality and complaining all the time about
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01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:37.239
your lack of success, you know that that's all you're
1077
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:39.519
ultimately going to end up being, because that's where you're
1078
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:40.880
putting your focus and your energy.
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01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:44.199
You put your focus, you put your imagination, you put
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01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:49.559
your excitement, your passion, your energy, all of those feelings
1081
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:54.039
that contain that powerful energy, you put it into what
1082
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:58.320
you're working with, and it's fuel for that. It's rocket
1083
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:01.119
fuel and it propels you where the hell you want
1084
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:04.480
to go. But thank you for that, Steven, and thank
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01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.960
you for what you're doing. It's fantastic. Before we go,
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01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.159
let everyone know how they can find out more, get
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01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:13.639
in touch with you, sign up all the good stuff.
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01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:17.679
All right, guys. So of course you know I am
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01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:19.960
part of the Forbidden Knowledge Network with Chris here and
1090
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.800
you can find me on Forbiddennoledge dot News with all
1091
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:26.880
the other amazing podcasts that this network has to offer.
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01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.599
Go give my friend Transcending Ascension Alike and a follow.
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01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.280
She's new to the network and definitely support the documentaries guys.
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01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.840
Like again, we've got original content made with heart, no
1095
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:42.320
ulterior motives, no ulterior narrative, just pure stuff guys, So
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01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:45.519
definitely support the documentaries. And of course you can find
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01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:49.960
me on all major podcast platforms under bgcasts, Spotify, Speaker
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01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:54.320
Rockfinn Apple, you can find me on YouTube and Rumble
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01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:57.239
under bgcast, and you can find me on all major
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01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:00.440
social media platforms under bgcast. And thanks again, Chris, this
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01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:02.480
is a great conversation man, and thanks for letting me
1102
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:03.159
talk about it.
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01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:03.400
Yeah.
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01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.400
Man, And if they want to sign up for your services,
1105
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:07.840
what's the best way to contact you?
1106
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:15.400
So, guys, go ahead and it's BEG Bodymindspirit dot com.
1107
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:17.039
That's the actual website.
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01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:17.559
There.
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01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:22.320
You'll find my email, my social media X would be
1110
01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:23.880
the best way to reach out to me if you're
1111
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:25.840
going to go that route, but you can email me
1112
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:28.079
too as well. And yeah, let me know if you
1113
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.119
want to sit down for a consultation. The consultations are free,
1114
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:34.760
no charge to you. And whether you want to pull
1115
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.400
the trigger right there after the consultation or you want
1116
01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:39.320
to try a two week trial, we can do that.
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01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:39.559
Man.
1118
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.719
It's totally up to what is in your ballpark. And
1119
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:44.639
what is in your vision at that point in time.
1120
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:50.480
So that's BG Bodymindspirit dot Com. And yeah, just swing
1121
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:52.280
me a line and let's get started. Guys, I want
1122
01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:53.000
to help you succeed.
1123
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:55.960
And Steven, thank you so much. We will of course
1124
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.559
be doing this again and until next time, everyone, have
1125
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.960
an excellent evening today. I want to welcome Julian Palmer.
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01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:05.440
He is a researcher and writer who has been deeply
1127
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:10.039
exploring psychedelics for over twenty two years. In the mid
1128
01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:14.559
nineties he developed Changa, a blend of DMT and herbs,
1129
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:18.280
which is now a global phenomena. He is also an
1130
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:23.000
author and has spoken extensively at psychedelic conferences and festivals
1131
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:28.159
all over the world. His podcast is Revelations with Julian Palmer.
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01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:30.920
Julian welcome, How you doing?
1133
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:39.199
Thanks, Chris doing well. I'm here in Melbourne, Australia. It
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01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:42.639
we call it Melbourne. It's a kind of a choky city,
1135
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:47.039
five million people. You know. Tasmania is a bit south
1136
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:51.719
of En that's Antarctica, so it's pretty crazy weather, but
1137
01:05:52.519 --> 01:05:55.079
really good coffee.
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01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:58.440
Awesome, man, Yeah, I love a good cup of coffee.
1139
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.960
I'm pretty sure that some of my audience may be
1140
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:06.440
sick of me talking about psychedelics and doing shows, but
1141
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:09.840
it's because of psychedelics that I am on the path
1142
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:13.039
I'm on and doing what I do and will continue
1143
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:17.960
to do. So my journey has been with psilocybin. I
1144
01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:21.760
know that you have developed something called changa, which I've
1145
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:25.400
never tried. I'm sure the universe will lead me to
1146
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:29.159
it if it's supposed to, but I'm very much looking
1147
01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:32.199
forward to learning all about it, as well as getting
1148
01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:37.159
some of your insights into what we're experiencing and interacting
1149
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:41.119
with when using these substances. What is your first time
1150
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:43.639
on Before we get into that, let the audience know
1151
01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:46.599
more about yourself and what led you on your path.
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01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:52.119
Well, I got started in the internets and the web
1153
01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:55.079
in the very early days in the mid nineties, so
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01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:59.760
that would give an idea rest of my age and
1155
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.119
and so I was working in that area, which was
1156
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:06.679
which was quite interesting, but it wasn't really that fulfilling
1157
01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:11.840
for me. And I suppose I was involved in, you know,
1158
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:18.639
trying to really discover a spirituality in a very spiritually
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01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:27.920
poor culture. So I basically, you know, I found Australia
1160
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:34.559
to be not really very you know, spiritually aware or
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01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:37.760
that many people involved in that sort of thing at
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01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:42.679
that time. So yeah, basically around the year two thousand
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01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:45.239
I came across. It was nineteen ninety nine actually that
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01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:47.639
I first came across DMT, and of course I was
1165
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:52.559
fascinated by it, and there wasn't much going around in
1166
01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:55.760
the world, but we have the Acacias in Australia, so
1167
01:07:56.039 --> 01:08:04.840
people extracting DMT from the acacias, and so I got started,
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01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:10.039
and you know that that became my job. I became
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a full time advocate for d MT and ACACIA and
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01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:19.199
I started sharing that medicine with people the ACACIA and
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01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:23.159
Syrian RU. I started facilitating groups in two thousand and two,
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and I only really retired late last year, you know,
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simply because I've spent you know, after spending twenty two
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years in the trenches, you know, with grown adults, you know,
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01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:45.439
essentially you know, being a you know sham and no,
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01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:49.479
I wouldn't call myself that. It's not particularly glamorous kind
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01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:50.760
of cleaning.
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Vomit off people and taking them to the bathroom and
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you know, dealing with all their dark, shadowy craze material.
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01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:08.319
It's quite you know it's quite challenging. So yeah, I'd say, yeah,
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I've been kind of quite deep in there for a
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long time. And then I guess, oh, you know, it
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would have been in the last six years or so
1184
01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:24.079
we've seen this rapid engagement of psychedelics in the more
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01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:31.159
medicalization space for treating medical conditions. So yeah, I've been
1186
01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:38.600
watching and observing and yeah, commenting on what I've seen
1187
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:42.119
and observed in this spaces for the last you know,
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01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:43.800
over a couple of decades.
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01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:48.680
Now, excellent, Now, tell us a little bit about your
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01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:52.560
journey and what led you to create Changa and tell
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01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:54.039
us a little bit about what that is.
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01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:59.039
Well, yeah, so I was living in this area called
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01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:01.840
Byron Bay in Australia, which is a bit of an
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01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:07.119
alternative hot spot, a bit of a tourist town, and
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01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:11.680
people around that area had been extracted DMT from acacias,
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01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:14.279
but not that many people, just a handful of people,
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01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:18.039
and people were quite scared of DMT because DMT was
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01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:21.720
so powerful and strong, and people would you know, I
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01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:23.720
knew this guy who'd give it to people and he'd
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01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:24.479
just say.
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01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:31.359
Smoke this, lie down, you're gonna die, you know, and
1202
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:32.199
then they'd be like.
1203
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.279
You know, so people were like, you can imagine at
1204
01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:40.439
that point that people have never experienced anything like it. Now,
1205
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:42.960
you know, now, I think, you know, there's something to
1206
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.920
be said for morphic residence, where you know, more and
1207
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:49.279
more people have done something and it becomes, you know,
1208
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:51.560
part of the culture. The human brain knows how to
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01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:55.640
understand it. I think in the late nineties early noughties,
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01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:58.800
most people, you know, the kind of elders, you know,
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01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:01.520
the guys with the white b were like, we don't
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01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:04.319
think humanity is ready for d MT, you know, they
1213
01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:06.800
were just like it were. People were pretty freaked out
1214
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:09.560
about it because it was quite a revelation and the
1215
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:14.199
stuff Australian acacias is really strong too. There's you know,
1216
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.199
there's five A MEO in some of them, and other
1217
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:20.000
alkaloids we don't even know about that are probably stronger
1218
01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:24.640
than d m T. So, you know, people, people were
1219
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:29.520
pretty blown away. So what happened is a friend and
1220
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:34.199
I we extracted goo from an Acacia casha two cifolia
1221
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:37.560
is a species name because they've got lots of other
1222
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:42.239
alkaloids in them, and so some of those arkaloids don't
1223
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:48.239
crystallize into d MT. So we we put it fifty
1224
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:53.479
fifty in Aahuascar vine shavings and smoke that and you know,
1225
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:55.960
I gave out a bunch of people and they all said, look,
1226
01:11:55.960 --> 01:12:00.520
it's too strong. So I thought, okay, well what I'll
1227
01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:06.760
do is I'll add maline and peppermint to that, and
1228
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:12.399
then also passionflower. And I heard that maline and peppermint
1229
01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:15.399
made for a much smoother smoke because moline is a
1230
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:21.319
long herb. And then I added blue lotus as well,
1231
01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:24.680
and I have the ratio, so rather than fifty percent
1232
01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:31.880
was twenty five p m. So that's original recipe shanga
1233
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:35.399
which I called it. And you know, the name came
1234
01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:38.640
through on an ayahuasca group that I held at my
1235
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:41.560
house and I, you know, the name just came to me.
1236
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.960
And we thought it was quite funny because it's like
1237
01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:49.479
very Australian. It sounds like something you'd you know, like
1238
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:54.560
Oka Australians sort of like what would you call them,
1239
01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:59.119
you know, trailer trash Australians. An American perspective, I would.
1240
01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:01.760
Say, yeah, that's the chain and give me a beer,
1241
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:04.159
you know, smoke exciting shit, you know.
1242
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:10.359
So we thought it was very funny, and so it
1243
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:14.760
was quite amusing to me that the name caught on.
1244
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:18.880
There was another name that was being used. People were
1245
01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:22.920
calling it Dreamly for dream Time, because it was actually
1246
01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:25.840
being sold in the shops, you know, under the counter
1247
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:31.239
in chain of shops called Happy Herbal Hires in Australia,
1248
01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:33.840
and they were calling it dream Time, and other people
1249
01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:36.840
called it dream Leaf and so and I was calling
1250
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:40.319
it smoke Mix at the time, and so, yeah, pretty
1251
01:13:40.399 --> 01:13:45.760
much the next oh, you know, it's like two thousand
1252
01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:50.760
and three, two thousand and four. You know, I kind
1253
01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:55.640
of planted these seeds all around the world, you know,
1254
01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:58.800
and other people did as well, you know, took it
1255
01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:01.119
to various countries and show people how to make it.
1256
01:14:02.279 --> 01:14:04.479
You know Dan Schreiber, who's dead now. He took it
1257
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:07.920
to Hawaii and the States and South Africa. You know,
1258
01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:09.960
I know a guy who showed how to do it.
1259
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:14.960
He took it to Brazil, and yeah, but I sort
1260
01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:21.199
of I mostly focused on Europe and you know South
1261
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:24.960
America as well. You know, took it to conferences and
1262
01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:29.399
gatherings and gave it to prominent people or whenever I could.
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01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:33.000
You know, England is a big place, of course. I
1264
01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:36.880
arrived in England quite early in you know, two o five,
1265
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:41.000
two oh six. Yeah, and then at the Boom Festival
1266
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:44.479
in two o eight it kind of you know, people
1267
01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:47.079
started to really pay attention and they were like wow,
1268
01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:51.479
you know, because crystal d MT it's hard to smoke.
1269
01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:54.760
You know, you can put it in a it's not
1270
01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:57.079
you get some you need to freebase it in a
1271
01:14:57.119 --> 01:15:00.159
glass pipe or you know, put in a bond and
1272
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:04.359
which method layer in herbs, So it's not easy thing
1273
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:07.479
to smoke and way up. Whereas changer you can just
1274
01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:09.880
put some in a cone, in a boon or a
1275
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:12.479
pipe or a joint and off you go. You know,
1276
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:15.720
so makes sense, and then you can have a light,
1277
01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:22.239
a lighter experience that's more gentle, that you can assimilate
1278
01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:26.159
and integrate. That's not going to blow your socks off.
1279
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:28.199
I mean, you can just have a little bit that's
1280
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:31.359
just going to amplify your senses and your visual field.
1281
01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:35.920
You're going to have this quite nice medicinal feeling. So
1282
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:38.680
it's really not that much different to you know, smoking
1283
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:42.279
crystal d MT, except I found that integration tends to
1284
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:47.800
be better. Duration is a bit longer, there's a bit
1285
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:50.000
more warmth to get a bit of warmth after glow
1286
01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:54.119
from the ayahuascovine. You know, I remember some years ago
1287
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:57.880
some friends introduced me to these DMT in vake pens
1288
01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:02.439
and we were just like, nah, nah, this is like
1289
01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:09.640
very artificial, had a real fifth element vibe about it,
1290
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:16.039
like the what's that Luke Basson, the French film director.
1291
01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:21.600
It felt like it didn't feel organic or integrated or real.
1292
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:24.840
So there's something to be said about, you know, using
1293
01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:28.840
with the Aaohuascar vine smoking DMT with the Aohuascar vine,
1294
01:16:29.279 --> 01:16:32.359
which the traditionally you know, in the Amazon has been
1295
01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:36.399
considered to be the guiding factor and force. You know,
1296
01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:39.079
it's Ahohuascar brew. It's not the DMT brew. They don't
1297
01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:42.479
even know about DMT. So for them, you know, it's
1298
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:45.760
all about the a Aahuascar And so you know a
1299
01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:48.760
lot of people, some people these days are adding you
1300
01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:54.199
know harmulers from Syrian rue. Yeah, it's does the same
1301
01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:58.359
sort of thing. But there's something about that Aahuascar vine
1302
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:03.640
that's powerful and magical as a as a guiding entity.
1303
01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:06.399
So from my perspective, if it doesn't have the ayahuask
1304
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:09.800
of vine in it, it's not really it's not that
1305
01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:13.960
much different to smoking DMT because it's the iowask of
1306
01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:19.600
vine that activates, say, in the Amazonan tradition, the iowasca
1307
01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:24.399
vine activates all the herbs and plants that you're using,
1308
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:28.319
So they use these addmixtures in their brewis. So when
1309
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:31.760
you have iwuask of vine and other herbs in your changa,
1310
01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:34.760
the aowuasc of vine and the DMT is going to
1311
01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:39.640
activate those qualities. So you're going to have this, you know,
1312
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:45.000
very strong medicinal effect. So the maline, for example, becomes
1313
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:49.000
connection you can have. I've had powerful lung healings from
1314
01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:52.079
smoking maline in changa. You know, I was chain smoking
1315
01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:54.840
at the time, you know, back in like I think
1316
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:59.520
it was like two o five, and you know, I
1317
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:03.520
was smoke a lot of tobacco and then you know,
1318
01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:08.199
smoking changa, and my lungs felt amazingly healed, you know,
1319
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:13.319
amazingly fresh, like I'd never been a smoker. So that's
1320
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:17.880
when I really twigged that, Wow, these admixtures are powerful.
1321
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:20.560
Then I went to the Amazon you know, later on
1322
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:23.880
in that year, and I learned more about admixture plants
1323
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:28.239
and how the ayahuasca is activates these plants because they
1324
01:18:28.279 --> 01:18:31.960
consider the Ayahuascar iron to be the mother of all
1325
01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:36.560
plants that activates those plants. So yeah, I mean you
1326
01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:39.239
can you know, you could put you could put the
1327
01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:43.000
harmelers in your vap pen and it might extend duration.
1328
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:46.920
But there's something to be said about smoking those herbs
1329
01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:50.399
that are chemical bland in a vaporizer or a bomb
1330
01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:56.279
where you're going to get this rich, full, you know, experience,
1331
01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.600
whereas it's like for me, you know, the vate pan
1332
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:07.159
is is like the McDonald's a DMD. It's like, no,
1333
01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:11.039
that's not there's no craftsmanship involved there. You know, you
1334
01:19:11.039 --> 01:19:13.279
don't know where that d m T has come from.
1335
01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:16.600
You don't know how they harvested it, you know. So
1336
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:20.880
I've come from this food to table perspective where the
1337
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:24.680
whole way along you're doing everything very consciously. You're recognizing
1338
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:29.359
that there's your your you know, paying your respects to
1339
01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:34.319
the plant spirits involved. And I think that's very important
1340
01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:36.920
because in our day and age, you talk to you know,
1341
01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:41.439
hanging out with a PhD in Euroscientists recently, and he's like, oh,
1342
01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:45.279
plant spirits, you know that's not you know, you get
1343
01:19:45.319 --> 01:19:48.199
kicked out of the academy. You start talking about plant spirits.
1344
01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:52.359
You can't, that's not that's not science, you know, but
1345
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:59.000
you know, exponentially, that's what people experience, you know, experentially
1346
01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:02.039
with you know, say, you know, Chance mcanna would always
1347
01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:07.039
talk about the mushroom spirit and people talk about Mama
1348
01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:11.039
ayahuasca for example, and you know when people take a
1349
01:20:11.119 --> 01:20:14.840
boga or it begin, you know, they experienced this really
1350
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:19.479
strong phrasance who's guiding them and teaching them. So, you know,
1351
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:21.920
I think one day the science will catch up and
1352
01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:26.680
we'll see we'll see some way to understand what people
1353
01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:28.239
actually experience, you know.
1354
01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:33.399
Yeah, so yeah, while we're going into these spiritual realms.
1355
01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:36.880
This is what I wanted to get into. What is
1356
01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:41.840
your understanding of what's occurring in our consciousness, in our minds?
1357
01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:47.159
Are we interacting with intelligences that we can't perceive. Are
1358
01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:52.960
we putting one foot outside of this physical reality into
1359
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:57.800
more of a astral realm or a different dimension? What
1360
01:20:57.840 --> 01:20:58.319
do you think?
1361
01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:05.039
Yeah? I mean when I first began getting into it,
1362
01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:09.119
I remember I did really high mushroom doses in nineteen
1363
01:21:09.199 --> 01:21:13.119
ninety nine and I experienced you know the first time,
1364
01:21:13.399 --> 01:21:16.439
you know, you meet your guides and you you have
1365
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:21.239
this awareness of and you have this direct experience of
1366
01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:26.079
a vast reality. It's kind of hard to say you
1367
01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:29.680
can do it. You can, I know, people have you know,
1368
01:21:29.720 --> 01:21:31.960
you can say, oh, that's not real, it's projection on
1369
01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:35.079
my mind, right, kind of can do that, but the
1370
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:39.840
vividness and intelligence of the experience, you kind of got
1371
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:44.119
to say, sorry, sorry, guys, you're not real. This is
1372
01:21:44.119 --> 01:21:46.600
a projection of my mind. And I'm deciding to say
1373
01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:50.880
that because science, right, you know, and I think my
1374
01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:55.680
understanding is the experiences themselves are rather evident. You know,
1375
01:21:55.960 --> 01:22:01.640
you'll have this communication from these intelligen genies, which is
1376
01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:05.920
a very intelligent communication. You know, it doesn't appear as
1377
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:10.000
a projection, it doesn't appear as a you know, like
1378
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:17.439
a it's actually quite meaningful. These these communications are very meaningful.
1379
01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:20.039
So I think there's something to be said about embracing
1380
01:22:20.079 --> 01:22:25.239
the mystery of this and not trying to you know,
1381
01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:30.800
contextualize or try and understand understand it, because I don't
1382
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:34.000
honestly know if we can, you know, we can only
1383
01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:37.840
just experience it. But I think the mistake people make,
1384
01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:42.720
like I said, it's like it's really giving the rational
1385
01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:47.039
mind way too much credibility and our you know, we
1386
01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:52.399
live in twenty twenty four, right, Okay, presuming civilization is
1387
01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:56.600
going to be around five hundred years, We've got to
1388
01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:59.239
think not be so arrogant to think that we know
1389
01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:04.359
everything that there is to know about, like you know,
1390
01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:10.399
hyperdimensional consciousness and trip to mean consciousness, when we've only
1391
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:13.319
in the West, we've only had access to these substances
1392
01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:17.960
in any you know, degree for a couple of decades.
1393
01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:22.840
It hasn't haven't been long in our culture, whereas other cultures,
1394
01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:26.760
you know, they've had them for hundreds, if not thousands
1395
01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:30.079
of years. They have their own cosmologies related to it.
1396
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:33.359
So we'd be better, we'd be We do well to
1397
01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:37.720
listen to what they say, but not completely. You know,
1398
01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:41.439
they've got their own often their own dogma and their
1399
01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:44.960
own rigid beliefs in some respects. But I think we've
1400
01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:47.920
got to think about Okay, well, this is a developing field,
1401
01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:52.079
you know, this is an emerging understanding where we're bringing
1402
01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:55.319
this kind of you know, this Western mentality, you know,
1403
01:23:55.600 --> 01:24:01.439
more kind of scientific, you know, non so called non
1404
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:10.199
superstitious viewpoint to understanding these states, and that hey, we
1405
01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:12.920
don't we don't have it all you get out. You know,
1406
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:17.680
it's actually it's not really very unintelligent perspective to think.
1407
01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:21.359
Yeah, science twenty twenty four, we got it covered, boys,
1408
01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:25.399
and we got this down, like neuroscience to the wind.
1409
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:29.800
It's like it's like, no, we don't know much about it.
1410
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:34.000
The more you know, it's like, what's that Dunning Kruger effect,
1411
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:37.840
Like the more you understand about something, the more you
1412
01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:41.760
understand that you don't know. You know, It's like it's
1413
01:24:41.760 --> 01:24:48.079
like Dennis McKenna would say, related to ayahuasca, how how?
1414
01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:51.520
And he's the guy who did all the farmer pharmacological
1415
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:55.600
work on how Aiahuascar works, and he says, how ayahuascar
1416
01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:59.920
works is a complete mystery, you know, because he understands
1417
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:03.039
you're seeing it. He's drunk hundreds of times he works
1418
01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:05.960
with people in those states. And I think, yeah, the
1419
01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:09.000
more you understand, the more you understand. There's a lot
1420
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:13.039
that you don't understand. But you know, the main thing
1421
01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:18.199
that I think is important to main understand him to
1422
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:23.319
have is not to let this, you know, the so
1423
01:25:23.399 --> 01:25:28.039
called logical rational mind just go no, no, that's not real.
1424
01:25:28.079 --> 01:25:30.520
It's just a trip. Road's all in your mind.
1425
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:30.920
Right.
1426
01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:37.000
I just think that's a cultural glitch. You know, that's
1427
01:25:37.039 --> 01:25:42.359
a cultural that's a cultural artifact of you know, the studio.
1428
01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:47.000
It's not actually a logical rational perspective. I think they
1429
01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:51.760
actually kicked me off read a rational psychonaut and couldn't
1430
01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:54.800
explain why because I go in there arguing all these
1431
01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:58.560
points and having these strong conversations. Was it being rude?
1432
01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:01.159
I was quite polite about it, but they kicked me
1433
01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:04.319
off eventually. I think I was possibly true rational for them.
1434
01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:08.119
You know, it's like this idea that like rationality is
1435
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:11.880
like no, only the ration, only the mind is real.
1436
01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:17.600
You know, it's actually quite a narcissistic perspective. It's what's
1437
01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:21.640
going on in here? All about this? It's nothing else
1438
01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:27.800
just that, right, It's nonsensical. Actually, it's doesn't make any
1439
01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:32.560
sense because it would make sense that that, you know,
1440
01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:36.800
just like the theoretical physicists say, well, there's all these
1441
01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:42.000
dimensions and all these realities, right, makes sense that there's
1442
01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:45.600
not just okay, what's going on in all these dimensions?
1443
01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:49.079
You know, they talk about these dimensions of these somehow
1444
01:26:49.119 --> 01:26:53.399
empty spaces, right, But it's like, what it's actually going
1445
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:56.840
on there is there's some sort of sentience happening in
1446
01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:59.680
these dimensions. And I think, you know, I think you
1447
01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:03.920
can you can smoke DMT and you can have an
1448
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:08.640
experience where you go into some sort of string theory world,
1449
01:27:09.079 --> 01:27:12.359
you know, and have an experience.
1450
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:15.520
Way beyond the third dimensional, and then you come back
1451
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:16.319
into the three D.
1452
01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:18.520
And you're like you're trying to bring it back and
1453
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:21.640
you can't quite do it. It's just too hard to
1454
01:27:22.439 --> 01:27:25.600
you know. And I think that experience is good to have,
1455
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:29.039
just to have go oh yeah, right, okay, well there's
1456
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:32.359
we got this three D world, but there's all this
1457
01:27:32.479 --> 01:27:37.199
other stuff there too, Rather than this view was like, no, guys,
1458
01:27:37.439 --> 01:27:41.479
it's just us. It's just us monkeys. We don't know
1459
01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:42.800
what happened, but it.
1460
01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:47.920
Just it all just randomly assembled, this highly sophisticated organic machine,
1461
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:53.199
amazingly muteated into this fabulously intelligent machine.
1462
01:27:53.720 --> 01:27:57.600
Isn't that wonderful? You know? And yeah it is, it
1463
01:27:57.680 --> 01:28:01.520
is wonderful, But it's like it's a non you know.
1464
01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:05.199
Look you look at the human body and the bones
1465
01:28:05.319 --> 01:28:09.199
and the lungs and the organs. It's like, yeah, yeah, guys,
1466
01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:12.920
it's just randomly assembled by mutation and chance. Because we
1467
01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:16.359
came out of the sea, right, and that's the thing.
1468
01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:21.000
We're kind of prisoner to this orthodoxy. And I've recently,
1469
01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:26.159
you know, I've been hearing from you know, people very
1470
01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:29.640
high up in the sort of scientific establishment. Not from them,
1471
01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:33.479
but people who know them, who say that, you know,
1472
01:28:33.560 --> 01:28:38.039
there's a ton of people who don't agree with the
1473
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:41.359
theory of evolution, but they don't want to They don't
1474
01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:44.119
want to talk about it because they would lose credibility
1475
01:28:44.159 --> 01:28:46.560
and they lose their jobs. You know. It's like there's
1476
01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:48.880
a ton of people who don't want to talk about
1477
01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:53.359
their experience hyperdimensional consciousness. You know, they don't want to
1478
01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:57.479
talk about meeting faories and plant spirits and stuff like
1479
01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:01.039
this because they don't feel that they'd be they wouldn't
1480
01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:04.760
be taken credibly. Like I met a famous Australian cricket player.
1481
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:08.359
I don't know if you know this game cricket. Yeah, yeah,
1482
01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:12.079
they played in India, Australia West Indies. I met this
1483
01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:15.960
like really famous you know one you know blokes, bloke,
1484
01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:19.920
you know, really well known. You would never think and
1485
01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:22.720
I met I met a friend of his who introduced
1486
01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:25.359
me to him, and he told me that he smoked
1487
01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:32.560
DMT and that he was in his garden. I hope
1488
01:29:32.560 --> 01:29:38.239
he's not watching this button anyway. He's anonymous. But he
1489
01:29:38.319 --> 01:29:42.800
was in his garden and he saw this theory, and
1490
01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:45.960
the fairy said to him in this Aussie voice, likedate,
1491
01:29:46.359 --> 01:29:49.840
what are you doing, like throwing cigarette butts in the garden.
1492
01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:56.279
Don't fucking do it, and then zipped out, and he
1493
01:29:56.520 --> 01:30:03.920
was like, WHOA, Okay, so fairies are real. So yeah,
1494
01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:06.399
I mean, but I don't think there's all these people
1495
01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:09.760
out they're in the you know, in the psychedelic world.
1496
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:14.560
They have their own experiences and they have their own realities,
1497
01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:18.640
but they might be shy about, you know, talking about
1498
01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:23.319
plant spirits or you know, talking about other realities because.
1499
01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:28.800
We're we're in a sense, we're imprisoned by a cult
1500
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:33.600
whereby materialism is the cult.
1501
01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:38.840
And that's our world. And to talk against or outside
1502
01:30:38.920 --> 01:30:43.439
of that box, you know, there's there's forces who don't
1503
01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:45.840
want us, who want us to be imprisoned in the
1504
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:49.239
in the physical, in the apparent physical right. You know,
1505
01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:51.479
they don't want us to wake up out of that
1506
01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:54.479
and realize there's other stuff out there. So as soon
1507
01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:58.760
as you start talking about that I think people feel like, well,
1508
01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:02.640
you know, Kim Jong un, you know, or I e.
1509
01:31:02.760 --> 01:31:06.239
The tyranny. It's not gonna want that. I'm scared of
1510
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:11.000
being you know, shot by submarine guns. You know. I
1511
01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:18.159
think people there's you know, and I think possibly, you know,
1512
01:31:18.399 --> 01:31:21.680
this is called the topic of all topics, and I
1513
01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:27.680
think that people are scared of talking about you know,
1514
01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:34.640
other dimensions entities because you know that factor and often
1515
01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:38.600
these people are at the more you know, the people
1516
01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:44.079
who should be our influences and really, you know, really,
1517
01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:47.199
you know, telling people how it is, a lot of
1518
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:49.880
them are kind of cavetching and going more on the
1519
01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:52.479
fence and saying, oh, could be this could be that,
1520
01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:56.439
you know, whereas privately they know exactly what's happening, you know.
1521
01:31:57.319 --> 01:32:02.159
So yeah, I think that's I think that's what's going on,
1522
01:32:02.600 --> 01:32:06.000
that we are in a kind of a tyranny, and
1523
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:11.359
there is that threat, whether implied or actual, of like
1524
01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:14.880
don't talk about that because you you know, you'll get punished,
1525
01:32:15.079 --> 01:32:18.319
you know, or or whatever it is, or you'll you know,
1526
01:32:18.359 --> 01:32:22.159
your status will will go down in the scientific community,
1527
01:32:22.279 --> 01:32:26.279
or you won't get your you won't get your honorary doctorate.
1528
01:32:26.520 --> 01:32:28.439
Or you know, that's how a lot of these people
1529
01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:31.359
not putting anyone down, but a lot of people who
1530
01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:35.279
are in the high echelons of our you know, our
1531
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:40.399
real thought leaders, say there that's they're really They're wanting
1532
01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:45.079
to be embraced by the establishment and the mainstream and
1533
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:48.279
they want they want their message to get out there.
1534
01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:53.439
And I understand that. So they're scared of actually, you know,
1535
01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:56.039
being made fun of, because in our society, as soon
1536
01:32:56.079 --> 01:32:59.960
as you start talking about you know, little green men
1537
01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:03.720
or you know, anything that's outside of the cultural box,
1538
01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:07.520
I think, yeah, often there are people who want to
1539
01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:09.800
make fun of you. But I think, yeah, well, I
1540
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:12.960
think Joe Rogan, I mean, it's quite phenomenal really that
1541
01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:16.960
the biggest podcaster in the world is someone has been
1542
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:21.039
advocating for and understand. I think he really gets it.
1543
01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:26.520
And you know that hey like dmt How astounding, how amazing,
1544
01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:31.079
how significant is it? So I think in a sense
1545
01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:34.319
we have reason to be optimistic. And especially with these
1546
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:37.680
d mt X studies, they're doing extended state DM and
1547
01:33:37.720 --> 01:33:41.159
there are people, you know, there are people like Andrew Gallimore,
1548
01:33:42.399 --> 01:33:45.479
you know who I really rate him as a human being,
1549
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:50.840
as a researcher who are doing great work. And you know,
1550
01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:54.760
the people behind the d M t X research, they've
1551
01:33:54.800 --> 01:33:57.439
really got this open mind and they I think they
1552
01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:02.760
you know, they understand, they see the significance and the
1553
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:06.199
meaning of this, because really what we have in d
1554
01:34:06.359 --> 01:34:12.600
MT is a way that we can access this, you know,
1555
01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:18.720
dimensions and realms that have previously been closed off to
1556
01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:21.600
the Western mind. You know, we've been imprisoned with this
1557
01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:26.520
within these religious structures where you know, which says well,
1558
01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:29.560
you need to you need to come to church if
1559
01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:33.720
you want to meet God, right, you know, and we're
1560
01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:35.720
going to read this book, and it's all in here.
1561
01:34:36.239 --> 01:34:39.880
And you know, DMT is radical because it's like, wait on,
1562
01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:44.840
you can just smoke this and you can you realize
1563
01:34:44.840 --> 01:34:48.039
you don't need the book. And so I know that
1564
01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:51.399
it's quite confronting. I have quite a few contacts in
1565
01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:56.600
the Israeli scene, interestingly enough, and in Israel, changa's quite
1566
01:34:57.039 --> 01:35:00.720
prevalent because I have a big psychoolic trans scene, and
1567
01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:06.479
I knowing Israel in particular for some reason, people were
1568
01:35:06.479 --> 01:35:10.880
telling me. Yet it's more confronting for the Israeli consciousness
1569
01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:16.279
to have that understanding of the hyperdimension or the other
1570
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:19.239
dimension or the other worldly, the numinous, whatever you want
1571
01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:23.000
to call it. And having this sense that there's an
1572
01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:27.479
interchange of intelligence where you suddenly you don't need that
1573
01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:30.600
book anymore. You don't need those books, you know, and
1574
01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:34.039
that puts you outside of the realm of control. That
1575
01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:41.880
puts you outside of the realm of you know, divisive control.
1576
01:35:42.279 --> 01:35:45.119
You know, like pretty much all the most of the
1577
01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:48.960
Israelis I know are piece nicks, Like they didn't sign
1578
01:35:49.079 --> 01:35:51.439
up to the army, you know. I think in all
1579
01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:54.279
political stuff, we've got to realize there are a lot
1580
01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:57.600
of Israelis that went to jail because they didn't they
1581
01:35:57.600 --> 01:35:59.840
didn't want to go into the military, you know. So
1582
01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:05.000
we just hop space in all this conflict to respect,
1583
01:36:06.079 --> 01:36:11.319
you know, sacrifices that people made to to, you know,
1584
01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:13.880
for so there's a lot of cool Israelis out there.
1585
01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:17.800
And also that I have heard, I haven't met them,
1586
01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:22.199
that they have extracted d MT from acasias in Israel, too,
1587
01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:27.640
which is I've met. I met a I know, a
1588
01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:33.439
very well known psychedelic trance producer who go to Israel,
1589
01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:38.720
and he saw some people who extracted from a local
1590
01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:42.399
acacia right in front of his eyes. So this was
1591
01:36:42.439 --> 01:36:45.640
some years ago now when I went to Israel, that
1592
01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:46.560
didn't happen for me.
1593
01:36:47.039 --> 01:36:53.760
But I want to get a little deeper into the
1594
01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:58.359
possible dangers if any of interacting with some of these
1595
01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:03.840
intelligences would the nature of their intentions, if there is
1596
01:37:03.880 --> 01:37:09.640
any intentions for me. Before I even started exploring my
1597
01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:13.880
consciousness with mushrooms or any type of psychedelics, I was
1598
01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:16.399
able to make contact with what I understand is my
1599
01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:20.399
guides and my higher self through meditation sessions, and it
1600
01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:24.079
was through this initial contact that my guides instructed me
1601
01:37:24.199 --> 01:37:29.600
that psilocybin or magic mushrooms would be very beneficial in
1602
01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:32.640
aligning with my purpose and my journey in finding out
1603
01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:35.439
more about myself and what I have to do. So
1604
01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:39.319
I took the advice of these mysterious voices that I
1605
01:37:39.399 --> 01:37:44.279
encountered during my meditation session and started utilizing psychedelics. But
1606
01:37:44.479 --> 01:37:50.920
I was under the understanding that these guides made contact
1607
01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:55.359
with me so that I could have protection during these experiences,
1608
01:37:55.399 --> 01:37:58.319
because somehow, you know how these things work. I knew
1609
01:37:58.359 --> 01:38:03.520
that I'd be eventually exploring these realms with psychedelics, so
1610
01:38:03.680 --> 01:38:09.079
I apparently approached myself and offered myself protection. So through
1611
01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:12.800
my experiences, I was always protected when interacting with some
1612
01:38:12.880 --> 01:38:16.520
of these other intelligences. And even though I would contact
1613
01:38:16.560 --> 01:38:21.399
tricksters and what seemed like lower vibrational entities, I'd always
1614
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:25.039
feel safe with the interaction because my guides would be
1615
01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:28.359
there to steer me in the right direction or tell
1616
01:38:28.399 --> 01:38:31.399
me no, don't interact with this thing. So is there
1617
01:38:31.439 --> 01:38:35.199
any true danger to interacting with these things, especially without protection?
1618
01:38:36.239 --> 01:38:42.479
Yeah? Yeah, Well there's a lot of talk interestingly about
1619
01:38:42.880 --> 01:38:46.560
people who are being injured through meditation recently. I don't
1620
01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:50.439
know if you've been catching any of that dialogue, right,
1621
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:57.920
there's an interesting podcast that was on James Jesso's podcast recently,
1622
01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:01.319
and just a general I've been hearing about it more
1623
01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:09.119
and morphine people. So in my understanding that that if
1624
01:39:09.119 --> 01:39:16.479
you have these transcendental experiences and you have this awakening
1625
01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:22.479
and you come into these powerful states, from my perspective,
1626
01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:28.039
what can happen is that you can actually be possibly
1627
01:39:29.199 --> 01:39:34.840
confronted with forces who don't want you to awaken. And
1628
01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:37.920
I think a lot of people might go into meditation
1629
01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:44.119
or life itself. You know, human no one really tells
1630
01:39:44.199 --> 01:39:51.479
us that, you know, guys, don't be careful because you know,
1631
01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:56.079
if you awaken to a certain capacity, you're going to
1632
01:39:56.079 --> 01:39:59.439
be a threat to the powers that be, right, you know,
1633
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:01.479
we have this it's a little bit in Australia. It's
1634
01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:05.359
called the tall Poppy syndrome, where it's like everyone is
1635
01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:09.079
trying to cut you down all the time and prevent
1636
01:40:09.119 --> 01:40:12.319
you from growing at all. So not many people in
1637
01:40:12.359 --> 01:40:15.319
Australia get to the point of much growth because it's
1638
01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:20.119
such a crab bucket culture, right, But it's not like
1639
01:40:20.199 --> 01:40:24.279
that in many cultures. It's quite you know, you you're
1640
01:40:24.319 --> 01:40:28.000
you're you're supposed to become as great as you can
1641
01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:30.520
and you know, reach the highest place.
1642
01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:30.800
You know.
1643
01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:33.920
It certainly is elements like that in Australia too. But
1644
01:40:34.039 --> 01:40:38.439
I would say in my understanding that yeah, if you
1645
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:44.039
do reach a certain point of spiritual development and awareness
1646
01:40:44.119 --> 01:40:47.920
and you start to understand say the matrix, right, then
1647
01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:52.279
you I think you might actually trip a wire somewhere
1648
01:40:52.439 --> 01:40:56.439
or send off an alarm and suddenly you're going to
1649
01:40:56.520 --> 01:41:03.600
be confronted with some beings who might be enforced with
1650
01:41:03.720 --> 01:41:06.520
kind of shutting you down. You know. So this is
1651
01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:11.039
just my interpretation and how I've interpreted what I understand now,
1652
01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:15.760
and so I experience myself these days. If I'm up leveling,
1653
01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:20.119
if I'm moving up a level, as it were, and
1654
01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:23.279
I'm you know, increasing my vibration or whatever you want
1655
01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:27.640
to call it, I find that I do get attacked.
1656
01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:30.920
But I know how to defend myself now, so it's
1657
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:34.399
not a problem for me. But if I didn't know
1658
01:41:34.479 --> 01:41:38.000
how to defend myself, it would really be a problem.
1659
01:41:38.159 --> 01:41:42.399
And I think, like what you said, I think if
1660
01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:49.239
people do have a connection to guides or beings who
1661
01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:52.880
can protect them, who can guide them, I think that's
1662
01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:56.319
how a lot of the you know, a lot of
1663
01:41:56.359 --> 01:42:00.039
people actually do it, who do reach these dates. And
1664
01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:04.319
it's well known that people like Jesus and Buddha, you know,
1665
01:42:04.439 --> 01:42:07.359
in their process of enlightenment, that they had to go
1666
01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:12.520
through a confrontation with the forces that control the planet.
1667
01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:17.479
That's all well documented in the religious texts, where they
1668
01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:22.159
actually have to break through that barrier. And I think, yeah,
1669
01:42:22.399 --> 01:42:27.359
I think it's if you don't know about it, I
1670
01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:30.199
think it can be a bit of a shock. And
1671
01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:34.000
I do meet people who are you flying along and
1672
01:42:34.039 --> 01:42:37.199
they're starting to really get somewhere, and then they go splat.
1673
01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:40.319
You know, I'm seeing it more and more and more,
1674
01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:46.159
and they just suddenly okay, you know, super light worker being,
1675
01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:49.399
you know, healing the world. Oh you're homeless and mentally ill,
1676
01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:53.600
you know. So it happens to people more than we think.
1677
01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:58.920
And what I see is that, yeah, there are these
1678
01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:04.159
there are these beings who you know, don't want humanity
1679
01:43:04.199 --> 01:43:07.399
to wake up. They don't want individuals to wake up.
1680
01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:16.680
They want to maintain a kind of a tyranny. And yeah,
1681
01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:20.960
so that so very often I think, yeah, it is
1682
01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:24.000
something to be really aware of. And it's not that
1683
01:43:24.119 --> 01:43:27.079
much discussion of it in our culture because it's pretty
1684
01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:30.239
much the topic is sort of a botom, you know,
1685
01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:34.720
it's like, don't talk about that, you know, that's not allowed.
1686
01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:41.399
Yeah, earlier you were seeing how you had tried the
1687
01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:44.960
dmt V pins and it was a very cold and
1688
01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:48.880
disconnected experience and it didn't seem like it had this
1689
01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:55.439
natural connection to what you would call source or even nature.
1690
01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:59.399
It was very cold. And I experienced this with LSD
1691
01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:02.880
And this was a couple of years ago, after I
1692
01:44:02.920 --> 01:44:06.760
had started my consciousness exploration. Somebody had offered me some
1693
01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:11.479
and I mistakenly took it because I was very curious
1694
01:44:11.479 --> 01:44:13.920
about the experience. I hadn't done it since I was
1695
01:44:14.159 --> 01:44:17.319
very young, in my teenage years, and I found the
1696
01:44:17.359 --> 01:44:19.840
experience to be very cold, and I felt like I
1697
01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:24.359
was connecting with something that didn't have humanity's best interest
1698
01:44:24.439 --> 01:44:28.159
in mind. And I'm wondering that if this is another
1699
01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:32.920
danger for people who are utilizing different types of psychedelics
1700
01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:36.119
that may not have that plant spirit connection that you
1701
01:44:36.199 --> 01:44:39.119
were talking about, and maybe connecting to something else.
1702
01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:43.439
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah. I go into this in my
1703
01:44:43.560 --> 01:44:47.199
book Articulations, which is like almost ten years old now,
1704
01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:52.399
and I talk about this. I talk about taking research
1705
01:44:52.520 --> 01:44:56.840
chemicals like DOC and two CB and you know, and
1706
01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:00.319
those used to be more common fifteen twenty years ago,
1707
01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:03.960
but now China isn't allowed legally allowed to make them.
1708
01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:06.880
They're not as prevalent as they used to be. And
1709
01:45:07.640 --> 01:45:12.880
I would see that there is an intelligent synthetic being
1710
01:45:13.319 --> 01:45:16.920
that I would call that I call the anima, and
1711
01:45:17.479 --> 01:45:23.239
that's that anima is a like a life force, but
1712
01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:28.520
it's not entrenched within the organic systems within the Earth.
1713
01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:34.920
It's an artificial intelligence. And a lot of these intelligences
1714
01:45:35.039 --> 01:45:39.279
are quite new. They were made in a lab and suddenly, yeah,
1715
01:45:39.800 --> 01:45:42.960
the intelligence. It's like you don't have a plant spirit anymore.
1716
01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:47.520
You have this anima which is a synthetic intelligence, and
1717
01:45:48.359 --> 01:45:53.800
it it actually does guide you to some degree, but
1718
01:45:53.920 --> 01:45:57.720
it it doesn't necessarily have your best interest at heart,
1719
01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:04.000
and it doesn't necessarily want you know, it in some
1720
01:46:04.039 --> 01:46:07.279
of them, and they're all different, of course, some of them,
1721
01:46:07.319 --> 01:46:10.159
and it depends on who made them as well where
1722
01:46:10.199 --> 01:46:14.039
they come from. You know, like LSD is LSD is
1723
01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:17.960
a semi synthetic substance made from the ergot, and so
1724
01:46:18.560 --> 01:46:21.600
ergot mean is the precursor to then they kind of
1725
01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:25.920
tweak the ergo to MEAN, which is like, yeah, it's
1726
01:46:25.920 --> 01:46:28.479
a it's a fungus sort of that grows on the rye,
1727
01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:31.880
and then they tweak it to become LSD. So it's fun.
1728
01:46:32.039 --> 01:46:36.119
It's semi synthetic, it's half synthetic. So it's like the
1729
01:46:36.199 --> 01:46:38.479
original ergot. If you take that, you're going to go
1730
01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:42.159
mad and die. You know, back in the day, you
1731
01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:46.199
know that the people eating the bread that was affected
1732
01:46:46.279 --> 01:46:48.560
with the ergot, and you know, the whole town would
1733
01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:51.520
go mad and die, you know, and really not good.
1734
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:57.319
So I think there's something I don't think that LSD
1735
01:46:57.720 --> 01:47:02.960
is malevolent, and I think my experience with LSD is
1736
01:47:03.079 --> 01:47:05.600
a lot of it depends on who made it, why
1737
01:47:05.720 --> 01:47:09.640
they were making it, what ingredients they used, you know,
1738
01:47:09.800 --> 01:47:13.720
so what it's almost like they're making a monster, or
1739
01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:15.560
you know, it's a good monster in this sense, they're
1740
01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:20.319
making the anima. And sometimes it can be more positive
1741
01:47:20.359 --> 01:47:25.119
than others, and sometimes the experience can be quite you know,
1742
01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:32.279
sort of tacky and superficial and not very not very
1743
01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:36.720
helpful and a bit you know me. Other times, some
1744
01:47:37.039 --> 01:47:39.680
LSD can be you know, if the people making and
1745
01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:42.800
have got fucking crystals there and they're praying and whatever,
1746
01:47:43.479 --> 01:47:45.960
and there are people aware of who are making LSD,
1747
01:47:46.039 --> 01:47:48.600
in that manner, you're going to have a much more
1748
01:47:50.079 --> 01:47:56.119
sort of transcendent experience. And maybe the people making it
1749
01:47:56.199 --> 01:48:01.079
they actually know that they're making an an anime, they're
1750
01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:04.399
creating a being in a way that is guiding people.
1751
01:48:04.520 --> 01:48:07.399
And so yeah, I think it can really vary batch
1752
01:48:07.439 --> 01:48:11.600
to batch, especially I find even synthetic five of MEO
1753
01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:14.359
d m T, you know, the stuff made from China
1754
01:48:15.439 --> 01:48:18.640
almost not even more worrying about, whereas the stuff made
1755
01:48:19.319 --> 01:48:22.000
by people who love five of me O d MT.
1756
01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:25.960
It's it's a it's a world of difference. You know,
1757
01:48:26.119 --> 01:48:29.680
it's completely different. So, you know, I think there is
1758
01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:34.279
That's the thing. I used to like the synthetics because
1759
01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:38.479
there was no guiding principle in there was just this
1760
01:48:38.640 --> 01:48:42.720
blank screen and I can sort of, you know, I
1761
01:48:42.760 --> 01:48:46.560
didn't have to deal with so much. I you know,
1762
01:48:46.760 --> 01:48:50.840
I think there's the plant spirits and the mushrooms, they're
1763
01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:53.800
they're they're kind of limiting you to a certain degree.
1764
01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:59.119
They're putting limits on you, whereas its synthetics there's not limits.
1765
01:48:59.159 --> 01:49:02.479
And I think some times you can cross the threshold
1766
01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:07.079
and maybe go a bit far and trigger some events
1767
01:49:07.239 --> 01:49:10.319
that maybe weren't supposed to be triggered, and you could
1768
01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:15.960
get some you know, strange feedback. You get some strange
1769
01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:20.119
experiences there. So you know, with Keadine you can experience
1770
01:49:20.119 --> 01:49:23.159
and in real time you've got you're triggering these events
1771
01:49:23.239 --> 01:49:25.840
and you know, you're in these different worlds and suddenly
1772
01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:29.399
something happens that maybe doesn't feel like it should have
1773
01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:31.960
supposed to be happened that you created, and you know,
1774
01:49:32.079 --> 01:49:35.039
maybe pissed off some beans and some far dimension and
1775
01:49:35.079 --> 01:49:38.680
they you know, it's a little bit like that sometimes.
1776
01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:44.279
Now this leads to what I want to spend the
1777
01:49:44.359 --> 01:49:48.199
last few minutes on it, and that's the medicalization of
1778
01:49:48.359 --> 01:49:53.760
psychedelics and what is being attempted. And if you're concerned
1779
01:49:53.800 --> 01:49:58.479
about what's happening, I know that with psilocybin there's talk
1780
01:49:58.680 --> 01:50:05.479
of utilizing it for pharmaceutical purposes, But would that mean
1781
01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:09.359
that the spiritual component, the plant guide would no longer
1782
01:50:09.399 --> 01:50:11.920
be there? What do you think about what's happening here?
1783
01:50:13.960 --> 01:50:16.079
I think a lot of it's kind of beside the point,
1784
01:50:16.199 --> 01:50:18.960
like none of us much to do with the psychedelic revelation.
1785
01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:22.039
I mean, you're seeing all these companies trying to create
1786
01:50:22.079 --> 01:50:25.159
these compounds that are probably not going to be as
1787
01:50:25.159 --> 01:50:28.199
effective as sila side natural silas cyber and they're going
1788
01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:30.399
to be patented and whatever. And I think a lot
1789
01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:33.640
of it's going probably better than nothing, or better than
1790
01:50:33.720 --> 01:50:37.840
just therapy. But a lot of it's you know, treating Really,
1791
01:50:38.399 --> 01:50:40.960
from my perspective, this isn't a you know, we're not
1792
01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:46.000
you know, treating PTSD is important, treating depressions important, but
1793
01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:50.960
you know, honestly, as people who are interested in these states,
1794
01:50:51.960 --> 01:50:57.720
it's more about the spiritual awareness and the exploration and
1795
01:50:57.760 --> 01:51:01.680
the self understanding and the awakening and the you know,
1796
01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:06.119
the interpersonal alchemy and the magic that we can create,
1797
01:51:06.159 --> 01:51:09.520
all that stuff, all this human potential stuff that people
1798
01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:13.880
had in the sixties, you know, in a way, you know,
1799
01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:18.079
having all these traumatized people, because in Australia, I know
1800
01:51:18.199 --> 01:51:21.199
a lot of the these traumatized people are kind of
1801
01:51:21.279 --> 01:51:24.880
running the show, you know, that they get into these
1802
01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:29.840
positions of power kind of and suddenly you know, there's
1803
01:51:30.119 --> 01:51:33.920
quite a lot of manipulation and deception. And you know,
1804
01:51:33.960 --> 01:51:37.399
I've hung up with traumatized people, I know, traumatized people.
1805
01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:41.359
So yeah, I think it can get very messy. And
1806
01:51:41.439 --> 01:51:44.880
I think what we're seeing is something. And I've been
1807
01:51:44.920 --> 01:51:47.800
putting this message out whenever I can, on podcasts and
1808
01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:51.279
in my own writings. I think we're going to see
1809
01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:54.119
a lot of mess and then a lot of people going.
1810
01:51:54.039 --> 01:52:02.079
See psychedelics are bad. No, not less, no, not necessarily.
1811
01:52:02.319 --> 01:52:05.560
It's like, well, that's just how I think. There are
1812
01:52:05.720 --> 01:52:09.920
forces who want to, you know, derail this project. You know,
1813
01:52:10.119 --> 01:52:12.800
I think there's forces who are like, well, we can't
1814
01:52:12.840 --> 01:52:16.119
stop this, so let's just kind of co opt and
1815
01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:18.159
capture what we can and steer it.
1816
01:52:18.439 --> 01:52:20.520
That's what happens with every good movement.
1817
01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:24.520
Exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those of us who are watching,
1818
01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:28.239
we see that with everything. Were like, yeah, okay.
1819
01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:32.399
Right on now for the last few minutes, we have
1820
01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:36.279
tell us all about your film Contemplations.
1821
01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:41.920
So I filmed Contemplations, you know, in a couple of
1822
01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:45.880
years before COVID, and then you know, started really doing
1823
01:52:45.880 --> 01:52:50.680
the editing in COVID times, and then you know, a
1824
01:52:50.720 --> 01:52:55.479
couple of years later released it and yeah, it's two
1825
01:52:55.560 --> 01:53:00.359
hours where I documenting the Australian scene and what people
1826
01:53:00.439 --> 01:53:03.800
really think, because I think in the kind of general conversation,
1827
01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:08.760
a lot of the real most interesting voices I'm not
1828
01:53:08.840 --> 01:53:11.880
the established authorities. They are the people on the street,
1829
01:53:12.159 --> 01:53:14.600
you know, who are actually taking the mushrooms, taking the
1830
01:53:14.680 --> 01:53:18.159
cactus and doing the medicine work. They're not seeking attention,
1831
01:53:18.239 --> 01:53:20.840
they're not seeking power, and they really know what they're
1832
01:53:20.880 --> 01:53:23.199
talking about and they have a little wisdom. So I
1833
01:53:23.199 --> 01:53:26.560
wanted to document a lot of these people and share
1834
01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:30.319
their wisdom and perspective because you know, I think we
1835
01:53:30.359 --> 01:53:34.560
only often hear about on podcasts or whatever about you know,
1836
01:53:34.640 --> 01:53:37.720
these famous people, well known people who often don't really
1837
01:53:38.119 --> 01:53:40.880
have that much experience. So you know, I wanted to
1838
01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:45.239
explore issues like the beings and plant spirits and you know,
1839
01:53:45.319 --> 01:53:49.399
the difficult and dark experiences that people have and try
1840
01:53:49.439 --> 01:53:51.600
and be honest and true to that. So I think
1841
01:53:51.640 --> 01:53:56.319
the medicalization context, you know, they're like psychop ellics.
1842
01:53:55.880 --> 01:53:58.359
Are good, like no worries here.
1843
01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:03.439
Yeah, it's like no psychedelics there. There are issues, there
1844
01:54:03.439 --> 01:54:07.920
are problems, and there's dangers, and so I really wanted
1845
01:54:08.319 --> 01:54:12.079
to create this very honest conversation to kind of counterpoint
1846
01:54:12.960 --> 01:54:17.840
the very I wouldn't necessarily call it dishonest, but rather
1847
01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:22.399
shallow conversation that's happening in the medicalization field. You know,
1848
01:54:22.439 --> 01:54:24.199
the medicalization people are like.
1849
01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:27.399
Yeah, we're trying to be a trojan horse and you know,
1850
01:54:27.560 --> 01:54:30.800
get into the mainstream and before you know it, they
1851
01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:33.960
become the trojan horse and they've got you know, a kid,
1852
01:54:34.159 --> 01:54:36.520
kids and mortgage and they're they're.
1853
01:54:36.600 --> 01:54:40.680
They're all the way in, you know. So yeah, it's basically,
1854
01:54:41.920 --> 01:54:46.520
you know, Contemplations is really designed to say, hey, guys, like, yeah,
1855
01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:51.640
psychedelics are amazing, wonderful, powerful tools that we can use
1856
01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:59.199
and give people some guidance and give people some some
1857
01:54:59.560 --> 01:55:03.279
perspective and tools that I don't think are being communicated
1858
01:55:03.279 --> 01:55:06.439
in other places, so that, you know, to really give
1859
01:55:06.520 --> 01:55:11.359
people some confidence to really DIY because I think that
1860
01:55:12.399 --> 01:55:16.960
I can't necessarily see that much happening, say, within the
1861
01:55:17.079 --> 01:55:20.680
framework of the establishment for quite some time. You know.
1862
01:55:20.840 --> 01:55:22.880
It's like, if we really want to do the work,
1863
01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:25.880
we've got to you know, use the tools, take them
1864
01:55:25.880 --> 01:55:29.479
into our own hands, and yeah, find out how they work.
1865
01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:34.560
Last thing, do you think that what's happening with the
1866
01:55:35.239 --> 01:55:39.159
renewed interest in psychedelics and the more people that are
1867
01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:43.600
becoming interested in utilizing plant medicines, that it could have
1868
01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:48.760
a larger effect on the collective field of consciousness and
1869
01:55:48.880 --> 01:55:51.800
maybe cause a little bit of an uptick in our
1870
01:55:51.840 --> 01:55:53.000
consciousness evolution.
1871
01:55:54.760 --> 01:55:59.760
Yeah, I definitely think that's already happening. And there's all
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you know, in Australia we've had DMT. You know, a
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lot of people been smoking DMT. Like DMT has reached
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all levels of society, has reached everyone, and you know
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not you know a lot of famous, high profile people,
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people in positions of power. So there's a little revolution
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that's going on, you know, And I travel all over
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the world. I know many countries, a lot of people
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are taking mushrooms. They're microdocing mushrooms. You know, a lot
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of people are drinking ayahuasca and they're you know people,
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I know, people who are healing the trauma. Who are
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you know, clearing themselves of all this baggage, and they're
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really doing this powerful work. And I think, yeah, you know,
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despite at times, you know, things can look abad on
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the Internet, actually you get out there in the real world,
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there's a lot of people actually waking up and you know,
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getting with it and getting much clearer and you know,
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becoming more aligned and connected to themselves. So yeah, I
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think there's a lot of there's a lot of room
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for optimism. So I think if you just, yeah, if
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you look on Twitter all the Internet, it's just a
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shit show of you know.
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Programming, counterprogramming, confusion, you know, all these distractions. When it's like, yeah,
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it's still you know, it's amazing that you know, we're
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in a place now that more and more people are
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able and then can actually access these materials and go
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about it.
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And and and and and do this in a work
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and have these awakenings. So yeah, it's it's actually quite
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quite an exciting time.
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I would say, yes, I agree, this was great information, Julian.
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Before we close out, let the audience know how they
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can find out more about you.
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So I've got a website. It's ww Julianpalmerism dot com.
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Contemplations you can watch for free on twobtob dot tv.
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It's on Amazon as well, you know, no ads. And
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I've got a book Articulations on the Utilizations of Meaning Psychedelics,
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which is you know, on Amazon and you know, get
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your local bookstore to order it. So yeah, that's that's uh.
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You know, I'm on social media. Connect to me.
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There, perfect, Julian, this was great. I'd love to do
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this again in the future. There's much more we could discuss.
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And until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
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talk again tomorrow. We'll see y'all.
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