Episode 337: Shortstop Positional Preview

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Welcome to episode three thirty seven of Flags Fly Forever,
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a Baseball Prospectives fantasy baseball podcast. I'm Mike Gianella and
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with me is John Haglan. John, how are you tonight?
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I'm okay. I have a question for you, though, Mike.
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How is your handmate bone or how are both of
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your handmade bones?
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They're both fine, but you know, I thankfully don't play baseball. Yeah,
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there's all sorts of news today, including about one player
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we'll talk about shortly, where it just seemed like people
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were breaking their handmade bones left and right. In general,
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we got a lot of injury updates and I don't
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I know, our memories play tricks on us, but I
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don't remember like all these updates coming right like out
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of the gate from camp. And I think some of
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it just has to do with like the media environment
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the way it is now. I feel like there used
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to be more news trickling out and with the real
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life like lack of local coverage, like like lack of
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like a newspaper, print media or virtual version of that presence,
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I feel like there was less news to be had,
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like in the off season, and that's part of what
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we're seeing now.
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I saw someone discussing this, I can't remember who on
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Blue Sky this morning after the Corbyn Carroll news came out.
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We're recording on Wednesday, February eleventh, and someone was wondering
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why we would find out these things all of a sudden,
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and you know, why didn't we get any any word
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of this over the off season. And someone was speculating that,
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you know, baseball players are men in the sense that
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they don't like to go to the doctor, so you know,
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they and they're they're taught to just play through it.
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So we did find out that.
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Yeah, we did find out that Zach Wheeler kept his rib.
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So you know that was don't if you saw that,
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that was a funny.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah, he kept his rib from his what was this
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thorssic outlet surgery, and you know that was that was
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pretty wild. So yeah, and somewhat joked, they said give
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it all the other like kind of woo woo weirdness
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with the phillies. That was actually one of the more
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normal things with them.
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So yeah, well, with both of us having a full
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set of ribs, let's talk about shortstops.
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Yeah, let's do that.
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So I'll just go over the format for the you
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know few people who are just tuning in for the
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first time. We're breaking this down position by a position,
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and we're we're pairing this up with each week at
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Baseball Perspectives his website. We break this down by by rounds,
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so it's like the first two rounds, then rounds three
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through six, seven through thirteen, fourteen through nineteen, and then
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finally rounds twenty twenty four. But really at that point
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those are practically reserves. It's anybody we want to talk about.
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So we're going to start with our first two rounds
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and shortstops pretty thick up at the top. There's six
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players here. There's Bobby Witt Junior going third overall, Ellie
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de la Cruz eleventh, Gunner Henderson thirteen, Francisco Lindor seventeen,
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and then there's a bit of a dip to Trey
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Turner at twenty nine and Zach Gto at thirty. So, John,
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I don't know if I said before we started, if
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there's any individual players you want to talk about here,
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because really a lot of this in the first two
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rounds as Boiler played stuff. But is there a player
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here or players that you have any specific comments or
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thoughts about well.
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We were talking about Ellie before we hit record, and
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I just might want to make the point that last year,
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I think both of us were a little bit concerned
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about the potential for the floor to drop out given
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the swing and miss and the poor batting average and
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he displayed for stretches, and I, you know, I just
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think we're both pretty in on Ellie this year, given
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you know, the youth and the skills and the way
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that he's got just insane bat at ball metrics. Even
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if he isn't totally consistent with his ex velocities and
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his launch angles. It just feels like there's still a
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lot of upside with with Elie de la Cruz.
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Yeah, and he slipped on. He slipped in the second half,
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particularly in power. But but I know there there was
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a tragedy, there was a personal loss in his family.
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You know, a lot of people have suggested he understandably
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just was was not you know all there Mentally, I
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think that that aspect just won't be an issue. And
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and yes, I I am kind of at the point
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with with Ellie de la Cruz where I see more
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of this ceiling now than I do the floor like,
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I feel like if you take him eleventh overall, yes
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he might not you know, get there. But you know,
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we were all saying before the show, I think outside
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of the players going in the top three, you know
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which are Aaron Judge, Shoyo Tani. It's actually a Tony
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before Judge. And then you know with who I mentioned
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Ellie and Ronald Kunya Junior, the two players that have
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had to guess who who could finish number one? Outside
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of those those three, he'd be one of those players
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I think about.
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There's just so much steiling here.
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The other the other player we should mention is Francisco
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Lindor given the injury news, the aforementioned hammate epidemic that
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seems to be coursing through Major League Baseball right now,
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and I guess the question is, and I think a
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lot of this, of course is pending for their news
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if we get further news. But I think the projection
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now is what are we looking at six weeks? Four
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to six weeks something like?
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Yeah? I mean what I think is they're saying that
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he should be available on opening day. Like I would,
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I'd bacon him missing about like two weeks just to
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be on the safe side. Like I'm usually a little
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conservative with injuries, especially injuries where the news is just
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breaking and then the other piece too. I think it
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gets overstated. But there's some concern about like a power drop.
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I feel like it's more of a comfort thing with
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some players, so that sort of I think, well, you know,
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he's not going to lose like twenty home runs. He
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loses even like five to seven, that matters.
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You know.
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What I kind of did in my rankings is I
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think I had Lindor.
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I got to look at this here.
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They're just my personal rankings by not ADP and they're
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still kind of rough. So I had him like I
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think fourteenth or fifteenth. I moved him down to twentieth.
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So as of right now, I just moved him down
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a few slots. And there's two things about this. One
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is that we do have a lot of information. If
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it's just a week or two, I don't think it's
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that big of a deal in two. Even if you
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believe in the theory that he's way to lose power, well,
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you know, Lindor brings value in a lot of other ways,
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including with his legs. I'd be more concerned if this
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was a hitter where power was so much of his game,
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where it's like, oh gee, you know, if that if
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that power goes away and there's just not much else
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there that That's just not the case with Lindor's. So yes,
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he could lose the little ground, But I don't want
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to go too far and let him fall to say
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the third round, and be like, oh gee, I'm letting
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you know, I'm just letting this bargain go by, because
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if this injury was going to miss like a week or.
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Two, yeah, and it could be a player that, depending
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on the news, does fall a little bit, and so
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you could get a bargain, you know, sort of yeah,
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over the end of the second. I mean, the other
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thing I would say about Lindoor is, given his track
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record of pretty slow starts anyway, I mean, maybe you're
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not really the powers a little down. Maybe it won't
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it won't really come out in the in the end
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of seasons.
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That's possible. I mean, that's a good point.
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He generally has been a slow starter historic and you know,
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you can't really think that's necessarily going to be true,
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but yes, that could be a factor with him for sure.
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So did you want to talk a little bit about
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just kind of a strategy with the first couple of rounds.
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Yeah, so I think I just wanted to make a
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broader point here, so you know, I well, I'm gonna
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ask you, do you feel like like, so there's schools
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have thought in the first two rounds. Some of the
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schools have thought are there's a lot of short stops
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going here. I think we agree, Like, is there anyone,
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like of the six short stubs I mentioned you feel
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is going like like too high where you're like, oh,
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there's no way I take this player's adp Like I
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feel for the most part, these these prices are fine,
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Like I don't see one where like, oh yeah, this
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guy's going around too early.
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Do you agree with that?
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Yeah? I do agree? Okay, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
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So if that's the case, you know, I think what
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I'm kind of wondering here. So there's six short stops
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going in the first two round. There's you know, I'm
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counting this out here now seven eight, Yeah, there's eight
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outfielders going. So there's it's mostly like outfielders, you know, shortstops,
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you know, pitchers, including closers. So do you feel like
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it imperative to get one of these shortstops in an
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outfielder or do you feel that it doesn't matter. Do
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you feel like it's better to pair like certain players?
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And yeah, I understand this is very vague in general,
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like so you know, for example, like speaking of believing
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at a price, like if you believe in inter Scoble
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at sixth overall and you have the six pick, you're
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probably just gonna take him. You're not gonna really, you know,
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play four dimensional chess and think, oh no, I have
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to get a shortstop. I just sort of mean in
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the broader sense, does does any of that matter to you?
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Or do you just feel at this point you're you're
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getting value and then.
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This is a shortstop podcast.
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Do you feel there's enough later that you're like, well,
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I don't get one of these six short stops, It'll
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be fine.
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I think it'll be fine. I'm not that interesting in
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trying to play the positional scarcity strategy game that early
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in the draft. I mean, I will say, when we
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get down toward the you know, the two hundred's, you know,
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the around pick two hundred, then I think there there
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is a kind of a steep drop off at the position.
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But I'm not too bothered if I don't get one
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of the the uh the top tier options.
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And I also have to assume, you know, this is
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another thing we'll talk about. I think we're thinking about
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doing a strategy podcast next week. Yeah, of spending like
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a bunch of time talking about how you know, overall
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contests are different than you know, regular contests. So I
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have to imagine, like if if you get like the
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one two pick in a fifteen team league and you
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get like Shoo tani Or and Judge in the first round,
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and then in the set, you know, at the back end,
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because someone's taking Mason Miller Edwin d As in the
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second round, you probably be very happy to get someone
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like Trey Turner or Zach Netto. I have to imagine
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that would probably be a pretty good start in your opinion.
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Yeah, sure, I mean I have I have Turner. I
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mean I'm a little more in line with ADP. I
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have Turner in the second I probably have Metal around
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the turn. But yeah, that would be a great start
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that I'd be happy with that start.
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Yeah, I mean, I mean these are things too, like
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we don't talk much, and maybe we'll talk of this
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to next week. And we're about to do the next
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year because I almost spend too much time on this.
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But you know this is where like KDS like definitely
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comes into play, which is it's not just necessarily like
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the value of players, but kind of if your values
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are set up, like, for example, I was putting my
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KDS together, and you know, I haven't I have one permutation.
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I think if if I have like the eighth pick
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in a draft we're just based straight off ADP, I'd
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get Paul Skeins and Yamamoto. And it's like, do I
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want to do that? And that's just sort of an
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interesting like part of this this exercise, right where if
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I don't want to do that, like maybe I move
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that epick way down on my KDS because I'm like, well,
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I'll do it if I have to, but it's not
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really my goal.
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So I think because you sent me one of those
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those versions of KDS that you were contemplating, and I
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think it's fair to say that number two is given
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the sort of both you know, Otani and Judge standing
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way out in the in the crowd, that two would
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be your first KDS choice.
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Well, some of that is I feel that, particularly because
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I don't think Otani's going to steal like he did
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in twenty twenty four, and he's a DH only I
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think I prefer judge there, and I know it's it's
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going the other way in drafts. And honestly, if you
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think Otani's number one, that's fine. Frankly, if you think
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Bobby Wood Junior's number one, I'm not going to fight
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you too much.
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I can say, like in many years, it would be
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a very clear and.
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I mean legit.
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Well, well, it's also funny because Bobby Wood Junior had
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a down year and he had twenty three home runs,
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He's sold thirty eight bases, he hit two ninety five
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and that was his down year. You could I can
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see him being a thirty to fifty player. Like, I'm
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not saying that will happen. I'm just saying that that's
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you know, that's what he did in twenty twenty three,
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and if he gets back to that at the age
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of twenty six, I would not be surprised. So yeah,
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the top three picks are really just a matter of
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who you like.
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And you know, I think it's weird. I don't think
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wit has god number.
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One in any drafts and I again, I can see why,
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but it's just funny.
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Out of like the fifty drafts I pulled.
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It isn't one person like you know what I want wit,
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but some of that couldn't just be the strength of
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this position again where people are like, yeah, there's a lot.
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Of good shortstops.
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I'll not get wit, but I'll just take the value
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with Judge or O twany.
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Yeah, I mean it's it's funny because you can't you
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really can't lose with any of those three and so yes,
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you don't want to overthink it.
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It's a nice problem to have, right, right.
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Would would you go two three one or two to
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one three in.
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Your I would do two one, I would do two
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one three. Okay, all right, all right, So let's move
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to the next group, which is rounds three through six,
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And it's short, don't put intended genuinely.
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So it's C. J.
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Abrams fifty eighth overall, Mookie Betts sixty third and right
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on the cuss cuss and he's been dropping a little
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Heraldo Perdomo at ninety so right there at the six
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seven turns. So John, I know from talking beforehand or
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one of your texts, you have opinions on one on
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one of these players, You want to start with him?
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Oh, sure, I guess I'm a little skeptical about Perdomo's
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ability to sustain what he did last year. It felt
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like it was a pretty I mean, it was such
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a massive and I wrote about this in the in
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the Annual in my comment or Perdilmo is just such
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a out of nowhere kind of magical season for him,
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you know, twenty homers, one hundred rbi, ninety eight runs,
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twenty seven steals, and so in the two ninety average,
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I think the average is going to be the most
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sustainable thing there. I look at his his bat of
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ball data, his his stadcast at, and he's got a
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wild sort of his His bars are interesting because he
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is he is deep red in everything but sort of
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the power kind of numbers, and he's pretty blue in those.
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And so I feel like to get to twenty home
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run power, he really has to be almost perfect with
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his bad you know, and squaring up the ball, you know,
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taking advantage of pitches that he knows he can drive.
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I just don't know that we can expect that kind
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of like threading the needle that we got last year.
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And so I just I it's not a it's not
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a bad pick. You know, he's top of the order,
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everyday player. He will get you plenty of plenty of runs,
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plenty of average. I just don't expect a repeat of
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last year.
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Yeah, I'm probably mostly with you, Like I'm ambivalent at
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this price, which means that because I'll have players ranked
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higher than the ADP that unless he slips a full round,
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I'm not getting him. And I think I have a
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lot of the same stuff, which is I think he's
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a really good talented player, and you know, you factor
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in the defense and the health, like, he's very valuable
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to the Diamondbacks. It's just not a fantasy profile, like
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to your point, like if he's you know, I don't know,
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a fifteen thirty hitter with a two seventy five average,
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that's solid, and I'm fine with that here. I just
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don't see him repeating what he did last year. And
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I think the other thing too is that volume, which
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is like, well, he had never played more than one
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hundred and forty eight games in a season. I understand
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he wasn't quite a full timer, so that was part
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of it. He's never had more than five hundred played appearances,
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so if he gets banged up even a little and
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kind of slips.
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Like, it's like, well, like now you're taking a hit
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a little bit.
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And yeah, I don't ever state this because he earned
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well over this last season, so I think people the
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discount's already baked in, like in terms of what he
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earned last year, So that's more of.
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What it is.
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I don't think this is a bad price. I'm just
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kind of like like, I'm okay with this price. I
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just think there's players here i'd rather have in the
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sixth round than per Domo. And honestly, this might be
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where I'm taking like a closer anyway, or like a
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second starting pitcher. So really, some's just the draft dynamics.
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He's not somebody I'm like, oh, I can't believe he's
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sitting there at you in the sixth round.
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I'm going to grab him.
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Yeah, I'm pretty much with you. I just think, you know,
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the kind of the dumb analysis here is like, how
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am I going to feel good about drafting an offensive
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player who could you know, end up with high single
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digit home runs, low double digit home runs and not
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enough steals that it's really going to be a game changer.
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It's just sort of like the downside is not bad,
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but I just think it's an opportunity to us in
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the sixth round that you're just wandering.
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I mean, I will say, like his conversion rate on
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steels was great last year, so and twenty seven steals
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is nothing. But I think I'm more worried, like you
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said earlier, about the power, like that that's a piece,
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and you know, at the projections, it's like a range
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between twelve to fifteen home runs. If he's on the
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low end of that range, it's like, okay, a twelve
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home run hitter, he's really got a run to kind
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of be worth it, you know. Here like that, now
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you're you're sort of in the not much better than
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like Nico Horner in the power range, and you know
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Horner is going a little bit later. But it's and
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we talked about Horner in the second bas week where
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it's like, well, I don't even want to pay that
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price for hornerh AND's Horder's done it, and Horner's done
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it for a few more years, like Perdomo's done it
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once and again, like I love in real life, like
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great Player and all that like a fun player too,
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Like you watch him, you hear him in interviews. He's
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just a great person for the game, and I truthfully
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I hope he succeeds, and I think you will.
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In real life.
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It's more of this, more of a fantasy thing where
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it's like I'm okay with this price, I just don't
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want to pay more than this, which since I probably
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won't get him.
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I want to get your thoughts on Abrams. This is
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a player we've we've drafted, we've talked quite a bit
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about in the past few years, and going at a
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bit of a discount compared to why well yeah early
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fourth last.
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Year, I think, I think so, well, I can I
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can look that I've got my yeah. So last year
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he went yeah a little bit. So he was fifty
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second last year, he's going fifty eighth fish year. And
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so this is what's funny about Abram. So my ranks,
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which are generous towards steals an average, and you can
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really help an average. He was like fifty fifth overall.
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Other systems had him. That's like a fourth round value.
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Other systems had more had as more of a fifth
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round value. The projections really ding him and as a result,
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like when you listen to other podcasts or Projection Heavy,
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I think they malign him. I still see like a
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twenty thirty player who the average is gonna kill you,
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like it's gonna at worst be like, fine, he's twenty,
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he's gonna be twenty five years old. I still think
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there's more potential for growth. And even if he even
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if that growth doesn't happen, it just feels to me
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like you're buying into a twenty thirty player. He's pretty
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much done that, like minus a home run last year,
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two years in a row. Even if he doesn't become
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a superstar and bust into that top group, I could
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see him out earning this. So I'm still on Abrams.
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I I think I kind of see the negatives, Like
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if he was striking out a thirty percent clip that
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I'd be more concerned. But he doesn't even really strike
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out a lot. It just feels like people are looking
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for reasons not to like Abrams, and I'm gonna I'd
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be fine. I'd be fine taking him at this price.
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Yeah, buying opportunity. If if people are out on him,
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and it's a weird thing where I you know, he
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does not come off well via like stack cast numbers
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or via sort of real baseball offensive production. He's he's
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not a great offensive player, but he does have no
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skill set, which is kind of ideally suited for fantasy.
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And you know, the average is not going to kill you.
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It's pretty pretty para.
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You know, well, that's well, that's what it is. I
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think if this is all CJ. Abrams is like a
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twenty thirty player who's like a two forty five, two
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fifty hitter, that's fine this price, and it really I
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guess the question if you don't like him at this price,
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and is that, what's the what's the floor? You're looking
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at it and those where projections are funky too, like
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so I see him ranked lower, but then I look
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at those at almost every model and it's like, well,
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all the models are pretty much say he's going to
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do what he did last year.
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It's just it's a head scratcher.
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I think it's because other players are kind of bubbling
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up ahead of him just because of what they're projected
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to do. I think you're buying into You're buying into
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a floor. Here is what you're doing.
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And he's not a shiny new toy anymore.
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You know.
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That's that's part of it's what's amazing. Like he's twenty
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you know again, he's me twenty five years old, and
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I think that's what is. He's been around for so
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long and people look at him like, ah, like this
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is all he is, and it's like okay, but yeah.
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I the last thing, I mean, I think maybe we
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can overstate this, especially given someone whose value you know,
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if it comes from home runs and soul and bases,
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it's not as much of an issue. But that lineup
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is stanky. That is a.
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Yeah, that would that would that would concern me a
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little bit. Although honestly, you know, this is the other
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thing too about Abrams is you know he's left handed.
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I have to kind of look at his splits. I'd be, yeah,
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splits last year against lefties were not good. I'd be
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worrying more about him on a better team. Oddly enough,
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and he was start losing some of that playing time.
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I just think of the Nationals. He's yeah, six nineteen
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ops against lefties last year, but but he stole eleven bases.
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That's where I'd worry about. Oh man, if they start
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if a better team started sitting him against some lefties
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and you know, a few steals right away, a bit
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oh crap, Like now I'm instead of thirty one steals
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I've been twenty twenty five. I just don't see that
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happening like he unless he's traded, like he's going to
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play every day.
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Since it's a thin tier. Can we just take a
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minute on Mookie here?
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We should?
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And I don't. I don't really know what to make
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of Mooki. It just seems sort of wrong, like I'm
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not looking at the right draft board when I see
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Mooki Betts in the fourth round, and I get why
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he's there. And I guess the question is is do
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you think he's on the firm sort of clear decline
483
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path or is there going to be kind of a
484
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:24.960
few plateau years for movie.
485
00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:28.680
Well, so there's two things here, which is it's hard
486
00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:33.759
to say because so he had a virus centering like
487
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:36.799
the season last year kind of start off slow, like
488
00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.920
he picked it up, and I think there's a lot
489
00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:45.079
of bounce back here. The one thing though, that I
490
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.599
kind of look at is his twenty twenty four and
491
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:50.799
he was hurt for a little bit that year wasn't
492
00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:53.880
quite as good like, so, what I'm worried about, and
493
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.319
this is almost the opposite of the Abrams argument, is
494
00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:58.720
that Mookie Betts is a great player and I can
495
00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:01.119
see him bouncing back to be like a five win
496
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:04.640
player in real life. I also don't know, like how
497
00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:06.920
much is he gonna run that the Dodgers really need
498
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.400
him to run. The answer is probably not, Like he's
499
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.920
thirty three, They're gonna probably want to keep him you know, healthy,
500
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.880
keep him fresh for you know, their next world series titles.
501
00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:16.160
Sorry jonas a Giants fan.
502
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:20.559
And it's just that, like, yeah, if Mookie is like
503
00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:22.599
a and I'm not knocking this, if he's like a
504
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.720
twenty five like home run hitter with like ten steals
505
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:29.119
and like a two seventy five average, which is where
506
00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:31.000
kind of where the models have I only where the
507
00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:34.000
projection models have him, And it's like, you know, twenty
508
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:36.200
five ten two seventy five.
509
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:38.559
Yeah, that's that's.
510
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:40.480
Solid, and you know, being able, the Dodgers are gonna
511
00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:42.160
bum him up because he's gonna score a lot of runs,
512
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:43.319
driving a lot of runs.
513
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:46.880
But you can get most of that with danzby Swanson though.
514
00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:49.799
Yeah, you like move like well, that's what it is
515
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:53.079
what you're paying a lot for here is are the
516
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:56.000
runs in the RBI. You're not paying for the counting
517
00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:57.279
and not a little bit with the average, but you're
518
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:00.400
not necessarily paying for the county sets. So yeah, to
519
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:04.480
your point, it seems weird to have him here. But
520
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.400
unless there's a big bounce back in power or steals
521
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.799
and he hasn't really really run since twenty eighteen, this
522
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:13.160
price is appropriate. Like, this is kind of a fair
523
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:17.559
price at this point for Mookie Bets and what he's
524
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:19.200
an all time grain, he's the future Hall of Famer.
525
00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:21.799
Would I count out a big bounce back at age
526
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.839
thirty three, No, But given the position this is where
527
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:26.839
if he was still a second basement, I think I'd
528
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.440
pay up a little bit more. But because of Chorice Uck,
529
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.440
because there's so much here, I'm kind of like, yeah,
530
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.119
And you know you're pointing about Swans and you're not
531
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.319
saying this, No, Swans is not better than Bets, But
532
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:40.599
are you getting seventy five percent of what Bets delivers
533
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:44.400
at a cheaper eighty percent cheaper price? Absolutely? So yeah,
534
00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:47.160
I think this price is fine. I think I'd rather
535
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.880
kind of like have somebody else just because again it
536
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:55.000
feels like somebody's I've heard people talk somebody's going to
537
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.279
pay up for bets, like thinking that he's going to
538
00:26:57.319 --> 00:26:58.680
bounce back, and maybe they're right.
539
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:00.119
I just don't want to be the one.
540
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.000
Paying more than this and paying say a third round
541
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.640
price for someone who settles in, you know, is a
542
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:09.119
good power hitter with a decent average, but none of
543
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:10.680
it's really elite anymore.
544
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:13.160
I mean, I'm looking, and I know there have been
545
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:16.319
health reasons, but I look at the slug over the
546
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:19.400
last three years five seventy nine to four ninety one
547
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:23.039
to four h six, and in any circumstance, that seems
548
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:24.000
like a pretty.
549
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:27.079
Alarming Well well, the other thing too, like if you
550
00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:29.839
look at this, like the x slug on statcast, like
551
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.720
twenty twenty three is like the big outlier, like and
552
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.759
you know, having a having an expected slug between like
553
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.079
four fifty and four eighty is nothing to sneeze at.
554
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:42.160
But it's also not speaking to a hitter who's going
555
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.440
to hit like thirty five home runs or thirty nine
556
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.240
home runs. It speaks more again, to a twenty five
557
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:49.920
home run hitter. So this price isn't bad. I just
558
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.079
think if you're paying this price and expecting a whole
559
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:55.440
lot of upside and like, yeah, I got Mookie Betts.
560
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.640
I think you might be disappointed.
561
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:00.720
And again that this is the thing too, Like hitters
562
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.519
in their thirties that start having like injury problems and
563
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.599
missing games, they usually don't start suddenly playing one hundred
564
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:08.400
and sixty two games.
565
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:09.839
It's more likely he could be.
566
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:12.519
Like a one to thirty one to thirty five game
567
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.559
player from this point, for because the Dodgers have no
568
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.440
reason to run him out there, like if he has
569
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:22.440
a minor injury or when the Dodgers.
570
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:22.359
Extra careful and cautious.
571
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.920
You know, yeah, they're well, they're also playing they're playing
572
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.279
a seven you know, they're playing a seven month game,
573
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:30.720
like expecting to get to the playoffs.
574
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:35.119
Yeah right, yeah, let's let's get to the next year.
575
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:36.039
It's a pretty thick one.
576
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:37.240
It's a thick one.
577
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.119
It's probably the one we're gonna like to talk the
578
00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:43.359
most about. So again, this is rounds seven through thirteen,
579
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:47.839
So I'm going to stop bringing the ADPs. Jeremy Pana Boba,
580
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:52.960
Schet Cory Seger, Trevor Story, William Domas, Dansby Swanson, Jacob
581
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:57.000
Wilson and Ezekiel tobar So. Yeah, it's arranged from pick
582
00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:59.319
ninety five with Painia to one A through to bar
583
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:05.079
So it's a pretty big range. And yeah, interestingly, and
584
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:08.480
I think I mentioned this but before the show, a
585
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.079
lot of the projections, with the exception of one player,
586
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.400
pretty much are like right around these ADPs. And it's
587
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.200
hard to know how much of that is the market
588
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:20.480
versus how much of that is just like the way
589
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:24.079
people draft. But yeah, not to me at least, not
590
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.039
a ton of surprises here on price.
591
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:28.640
Yeah, who's the one player.
592
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:34.240
It's Ezekiel tobar So. Projections are much higher on him.
593
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.400
I think they see a bounce back in batting average,
594
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.559
they see the power, They like cores. I think we
595
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:43.319
talked about this before the show. I it's sad, like
596
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:45.240
I used to love Rockies, I'm not starting to have
597
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.759
a healthy fear of Rockies players.
598
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.039
Just yeah, I mean it's really not that it's gone
599
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.000
from oh, bump him up, he's on the Rockies to like,
600
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.480
you know, it's like they have some contagious disease that
601
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:06.400
just just SAPs away the the skill and capability of
602
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:10.400
otherwise good players. But yeah, I don't know. I mean,
603
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:14.039
I've never been a Tovar guy, but and the Colorado thing,
604
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.079
the Corps bump, doesn't really appeal to me.
605
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:19.440
I really, you know, I really liked Tovar going into
606
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:23.079
last year. And it's just one of those hard things too,
607
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:27.880
because I really don't know with Tovar how much of
608
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:30.799
it was was the injury versus how much is like,
609
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:34.720
you know, the power just really dropped for him last year,
610
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:41.119
and I are we absolutely sure you know that that
611
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.400
he's going to come all the way back and hit
612
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.440
like you know, I think some of the projections have
613
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.640
him like kind of hitting in the low twenties. And
614
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:51.359
you know something we know about cores too, right, which
615
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:56.920
is the park. The park helps. I don't think the
616
00:30:56.960 --> 00:31:01.880
park is an automatic like you know cure all or
617
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.240
you know, hit nine home runs in like three hundred
618
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.839
ninety played appearances last year, And the projections have him
619
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.079
mostly bouncing back like between like seventeen and twenty one.
620
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:14.400
I I don't know, like I.
621
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:16.359
And there's the other problem too, which is you know,
622
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.720
you know this with like almost all Rockies like last year,
623
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:23.559
outside a Hunter Goodman, they're they're not good players in
624
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:27.319
like real life. He like like Tobar had a like
625
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.440
an ops of five fourteen on the road.
626
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.039
Yeah, he should get some of that back.
627
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:37.880
But really it feels like you're drafting a player inside
628
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.160
the top two hundred that should like in an NFBC
629
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.440
type league, you've got to look at the road weeks
630
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.079
and go, yeah, I guess they got a bench, which
631
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:47.759
means you almost need like a secondary player on the
632
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:51.839
bench that you can make that work with. Yeah, I'm
633
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.200
I'm not out on Tobar. I just see him more
634
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:56.799
as belonging in the next group.
635
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:02.440
Yeah. I think I've made it pretty clear and various podcasts,
636
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:06.880
but I get a little put off by players who
637
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:11.039
have an OBP below three hundred. And I know that
638
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:13.720
is you know, even in leagues where I need me too.
639
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.400
It just seems like that shows me that there is
640
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:22.359
a lot of risk for batting average and well, yeah,
641
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:26.519
it's just not Well he's young though, he's still only
642
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:27.480
twenty four, but.
643
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.000
He is he he could But but again this goes
644
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:33.440
back to the thing like in a better organization, I'd
645
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:36.359
be like, Okay, he's only twenty four, like there's room
646
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.119
for growth. But the Rockies just don't really seem like
647
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:42.400
the team that's going to engender that growth like that
648
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:46.240
that's sort of my problem. So is there you know,
649
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.440
so the one player I was saying neutral of these players,
650
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.279
the one player I like here. And this goes back
651
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:54.960
to kind of this fantasy thing. It is Trevor's story,
652
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.240
and I look, I get why he's being discounted, like
653
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:02.240
it's it's you know, yeah, great year last year, first
654
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:06.440
time he was healthy since twenty twenty one, you know,
655
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.880
and his fourth year in Boston, you know, kind of
656
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.200
a not nearly as much as the course bump, but
657
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.880
kind of a league average hitter. A lot of that
658
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.599
values propped up by the steals. But that that's why
659
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.640
I think I like him, which is like, well, he
660
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.839
was extremely successful on the base pass, like the you know,
661
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:27.359
thirty one steals and thirty two attempts. I don't think
662
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.799
he's at a point where it's all gonna just completely
663
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.799
like disappear or go away. And you know, this is
664
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.759
sort of you know, we're talking about Perdomo. I feel
665
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:39.720
like you've got a similar shot here, like going a couple.
666
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.359
Rounds later or like a round round and a half later.
667
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.079
Yeah, so this is mostly a contextual thing, Like I
668
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:50.319
kind of like story enough, and I'm not particularly worried
669
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.599
about the injuries because a lot of they weren't freak things.
670
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.400
A lot the we're just him being banged up like
671
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.680
here and there. So yeah, I think the shortstops in
672
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.680
this tier. Story is the one that I relatively speaking
673
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:01.440
like like.
674
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:05.720
So it's interesting. There's the the they're not they're not
675
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:10.679
super close, but in order, we've got seager story than
676
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.039
Adamis and Swanson. And I think I'm gonna I'm gonna
677
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:20.159
differ a little bit. And with Sieger and story. You know,
678
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.360
you and I have talked about Seeger, you know, off
679
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.960
off record, off the podcast a lot about the you know,
680
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:32.599
just the the skills that just never find their way
681
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:35.480
onto a field for for you know, one hundred and
682
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.039
forty or fifty games a season.
683
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:39.719
Yeah, I mean it's an amazing hitter.
684
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:43.440
Yeah, and just you know, he's been healthy, Like twenty
685
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.280
twenty two was the last year he was like just
686
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:48.440
completely for the most part healthy.
687
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.039
So if the main argument for story is is or
688
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:57.119
if one of the main arguments is steals, like I actually,
689
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.119
you know, I would take a slight hit, but you
690
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.719
are not getting nothing from a damas and Swanson, Yeah,
691
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.679
and otherwise like I really don't I really don't know
692
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:09.800
if I want to take the risk because you know
693
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:13.599
you you made the point that is exactly what scares
694
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:19.119
me is that story has been very, very hard pressed
695
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:20.800
to stay on the field for several seas.
696
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:22.800
Yeah, I mean it's a it's a fair point. And
697
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:24.840
I think the deeper the league, the more you might
698
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:28.119
be like, well, I don't want to make this play
699
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:32.039
here where like I might get a hundred games or
700
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:33.920
I might get ninety games, and then all of a
701
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.400
sudden it's like, oh boy, like now I'm taking this
702
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.960
big hit, and then it was a story too. He's one
703
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:40.440
of those players, like you know, so a lot of
704
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:44.199
times that get hurt. But it's not like he's just
705
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.320
come back and been fine, Like he's had long stretches
706
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.800
of kind of disappearing. Now A Damas is my second
707
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:54.360
favorite player here, and the one that I see is
708
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.760
not nearly the bargain is story but a bargain. So
709
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:00.639
I do like see where you're coming from, and I
710
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.119
think some of this is Domis's speed didn't completely disappear.
711
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.400
He act he dropped from twenty one steals to twelve
712
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:11.400
I also believe that I don't think he's like a
713
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:13.800
two twenty five hitter. I think it's more likely he's
714
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:15.639
like a two forty hitter. And if he can do
715
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.199
that in that lineup, and you know, the Giant said,
716
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:22.400
you know, once again made their lineup better. I kind
717
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.280
of see a thirty home run hitter here with like
718
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:26.519
lots of like goodness and you kind of live with
719
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.679
the batting average and at price. Yeah, I think Adamis
720
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.320
is it could be a case to what you want
721
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.320
or need, Like if you want the speed, I'd go
722
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.960
with story, Like if you want the power, I'd go
723
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:41.159
with the Domason. To your point, Adamas is certainly a
724
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:45.000
more reliable like health, you know, health play for sure.
725
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:49.199
He really had a much better second half. Started really slowly.
726
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:50.880
Yeah, I meant to bring that up too.
727
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:53.519
Took him a while, took a Domis a while to
728
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.480
kind of bet in with the Giants, get to know
729
00:36:56.559 --> 00:37:00.519
the park. Devers came over, helped, you know, length in
730
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:05.199
the order a twenty eight ohps, eighteen homers in the
731
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:05.880
second half.
732
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:08.920
Yeah, his lefty righting splits are funky.
733
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:10.519
He's got like the last two years he has like
734
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.360
a weird reverse like split where you know he's right
735
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.599
hand and he's better against right it's.
736
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I agree with you. I think
737
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.760
the average is going to be better. It's not going
738
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.199
to be you know, a strength for him. I just
739
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:27.519
think it's an incredibly reliable and safe and it's sort
740
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:29.880
of like a backstop pick. If I've waited this long
741
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.920
on short stop, it feels like I'm getting something that
742
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.719
is is pretty you know, pretty pretty strong that ladye.
743
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.800
The draft similar with Swanson actually too, I don't know
744
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:42.559
if you want to move on to that the same Yeah,
745
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.079
kind of more floor than than ceiling.
746
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:49.480
Yeah, the average is probably like afference between Swanson and
747
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:50.639
pain you know, Like I think this is one of
748
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:54.840
those things where often at first base I hear like
749
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:58.400
petere A, Lonzo, Matt Olson get paired. It's like which
750
00:37:58.400 --> 00:37:59.840
one do you want? It's like, well, you want them
751
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.800
one for lower ADP. And that's how I kind of
752
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.039
feel this year about Swanson, where painting is better, but
753
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:10.039
given the ADP difference, it's like, well I almost would
754
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.280
you know, fifty picks apart almost rather take Swanson. Yes,
755
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.360
the average is lower, but you kind of just know
756
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:20.360
what you're you're getting here, like Swanson's older, but I
757
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:24.039
don't think he's old enough where the fade is like
758
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:27.840
that close or something I would like particularly worry about.
759
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:31.440
So yeah, Swanson's kind of fine. Like like a lot
760
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.920
of what you're doing in this tier, and because Short's
761
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.320
up is so thick is you are sort of playing
762
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.639
a category game like Bashet, who haven't really talked about.
763
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.159
There's a lot of average there. So if you're like, oh,
764
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.679
I really need to short up my batting average you
765
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:51.119
think twenty twenty four was mostly like an injury like thing,
766
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.000
which is what I think, then it's like, yeah, you're
767
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:56.679
you're getting this like two ninety hitter who isn't particularly
768
00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:59.920
great in any other category. He's pretty much stop run.
769
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:03.119
I expect him to run again this year, but you know,
770
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.159
twenty home runs, good counting stats, you know, nice lineup
771
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.559
with the Mets, and that really high average if you
772
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:12.840
need that kind of plays. Whereas, yeah, there's other things
773
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:16.639
here where if you're looking for the steals, the stories,
774
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:19.360
probably the guy get you know, if you're Seger is
775
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:21.880
someone where if you want that power, and you know
776
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.719
in a shallower league where you can find a replacement, Yeah,
777
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.719
I might actually like take Seger. I don't like secret
778
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:29.639
the deeper leag where it's like, oh man, I've got like,
779
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.559
you know, forty or fifty games at least to fill
780
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:35.119
you know, more or less because he's going to be out.
781
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:40.400
Yeah. Yeah, And I think the comparison between Swanson and
782
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.920
Paanya is interesting. And you know, Painya is also maybe
783
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:49.159
his his seasonal line is masking a bit how he
784
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.039
did fall off a bit. I mean, he went from
785
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.159
having like an all star level first half to just
786
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:58.199
being merely good in the second half. But the second
787
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.679
half did happen, and I think it's maybe a little
788
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:02.599
more reflective of what he's going to be.
789
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.559
Yeah, And I do I do wonder with Paynya.
790
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.480
That's the thing like his you know, XBA was like
791
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:11.599
two seventy, which is the kind of in line with
792
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.599
his career and on his like three h four average,
793
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:17.519
So it's kind of that idea of like, well, if
794
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.719
he is what he was in twenty twenty four, that's
795
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.320
kind of like a league average hitter versus what he
796
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.000
was in twenty twenty five. I'm not saying it was
797
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.639
all a batting average fluke, but that was probably some
798
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.679
of it like like idea might almost feel more comfort
799
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:33.800
with Payne if he had hit like, say, thirty home
800
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.159
runs as opposed to hitting three oh four, because I'm
801
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.000
just not sure that average could carry over. As if
802
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:42.320
he hit a ton of home runs and started taking
803
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.360
more advantage of his home park, I'd be like, Okay,
804
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.320
well this is something that he can carry over, like
805
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:50.920
he's doing the josel two bay trick. But that's not
806
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:55.719
what's happening. So yeah, solid player. I just I think
807
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:56.320
blits too.
808
00:40:56.559 --> 00:41:00.119
He really does, you know, live off of the Crawford boxes.
809
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.000
For Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess the one thing
810
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.519
I'd say about him is he did miss some time
811
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:10.599
last year, so you could potentially extrapolate some of that
812
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:12.960
power and steals up a little bit. But yeah, I
813
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:17.199
think he kind of had a career year and there's
814
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.920
gonna be some some clawback this year.
815
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:23.159
All Right, we did that here.
816
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:26.480
We did and you know, I almost skipped the beginning
817
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:30.119
of a conversation here. So so this tier there are
818
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:32.119
one two it and we don't double up so we
819
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:35.920
won't talk about Otto Lopez or Jose Cabra again. So
820
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:39.400
there are one, two three, there's six shortstops here there's
821
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:45.239
Connor Griffin, Sander Bogart's Pulsa Montgomery, Mason Wynn, Carlos Korea,
822
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.320
and JJ Weatherhold. So this is an interesting tier to
823
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.079
say the leavest, like lots of lots of differences. But
824
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.159
I notice a shortstop almost every year that it seems
825
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:59.480
like it seems at least like a boomer bust here
826
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.559
where there's players here where it's like, man, like, I
827
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:05.039
feel this, either everything go right for this guy like
828
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.079
Trevor Story was in this yeer last year, or everything
829
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.079
you go wrong for this guy and that was Tyler
830
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:13.960
Fitzgerald last year. So do you see like players? But
831
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:15.880
let's start out with the obvious things. So this is
832
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:18.559
the beginning of some rookies that there's Griffin and there's
833
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.559
weather Holt, and I mean I got the price difference. Like,
834
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:25.559
if the scouting community is right about Griffin, he could
835
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.880
be like Bobby whitting his rookie year where he's like
836
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.360
a twenty thirty player if he's up on opening day.
837
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:32.760
Weather Hold is not that.
838
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:36.599
So let's just talk in a broader sense about how
839
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.760
do you feel about drafting like rookies like this who
840
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.440
haven't done yet someone like Griffin inside the top two hundred,
841
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:45.400
I mean barely, but he is inside of it.
842
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:48.079
Well, I think part of it has to do with
843
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:51.599
your point about shallow leagues versus deep leagues. And then
844
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:56.079
also a lot of it has to do with when
845
00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:59.639
you're drafting, right, I mean, if you're in an NFBC
846
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:04.880
league and you are, you know, drafting Connor Griffin or
847
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.440
you know, to a lesser extent, whether Hold or McGonagall,
848
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:10.760
you know, you got to have a backup plan because
849
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.639
we don't know, we don't know if if they're going
850
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.639
to start, you know, with the big league club. And
851
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:25.800
I generally don't push rookies, especially you know, rookies who
852
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:30.039
have not even tasted well the majors yet. I just
853
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.159
try to let someone else reach for those players, but
854
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:36.519
no matter how skilled they are.
855
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:37.599
Yeah.
856
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:41.400
So so we went through this like two years ago,
857
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.920
like with Jackson Holliday. And don't get me wrong, Griffin
858
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.800
wants to be a better prospect than Holiday was. But
859
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.679
Holiday was this like top of the pops prospect. People
860
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:55.960
are like, how can he fail? Like the power might
861
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:58.639
not quite be there, but the steels are there. You
862
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:00.639
know what we've seen from hobby. He was off on
863
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:03.639
twenty twenty four. He was slightly below league average as
864
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:07.239
a hitter in twenty twenty five. And that's part of
865
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:11.519
the problem, which is Griffin could eventually be this amazing
866
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.840
player and maybe, you know, maybe his next Bobby with Junior,
867
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.519
maybe it all comes together for him and he's his
868
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.280
twenty thirty player, like as a twenty year old. But yeah,
869
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.280
to your point, there's lots of outcomes here, and you know,
870
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:26.519
one of those outcomes is he's just not good. And
871
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:30.079
I think that's what the price is trying to kind
872
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.599
of account for here. It's balancing between those two things,
873
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:36.239
which is like, if you get him here and he's
874
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:39.440
the top one, even a top one hundred player, great.
875
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.159
The other the other thing, though, is he could just
876
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:46.519
be in the minors. He could be bad for two months.
877
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:49.599
I mean, he has ninety eight played appearances in the
878
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:54.320
high miners. I understand why the Pirates might start him,
879
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.039
you know, in the majors n opening day, but I
880
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.960
also if they send him down, I know some people
881
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.039
will grumble about it, but it seems like a reasonable
882
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:03.960
thing for them to do as well.
883
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.280
Well, then you're in that quandary too. If you're in
884
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:10.880
an NFBC league where yeah, you're invested, you're committed to
885
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:12.199
holding onto it, and then you get a couple of
886
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:15.360
injuries and you're really against it in like early May.
887
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.840
You know, so I don't want I don't want that problem.
888
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:20.920
Oh, I think we've learned from our experience, Like you,
889
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.639
you probably have to drop him, Like you can't really
890
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:27.039
know unless like unless the team the pirates flat out
891
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:29.039
say and teams don't do this, he's gonna be up
892
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:29.639
on May.
893
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:32.719
First or whatever. Yeah, you're you're kind of stuck.
894
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:35.440
Yeah, you know, like to words in particular where you've
895
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.880
got like Zerio dollar fab and unlimited ie OL. It's
896
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.559
it's different, and you can sit on a player like
897
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:43.159
Griffin for a while before you feel like, yeah this
898
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.239
this is the waste of resources. But yeah, at an
899
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:49.280
FBC it's it's a lot harder to do that. So
900
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.760
I I get it. I get The other thing too,
901
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.199
is you know he's a shortstop. If he was you know,
902
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.239
a third basement for example, we're third basis thinner And
903
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:00.280
you look at a lot of those names pass the top,
904
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.480
like six or eight that we talked about last week.
905
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:05.480
You know what I'm gonna shoot my shot here because
906
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:09.199
you know at one fifty or one seventy or you
907
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.760
know he's going one ninety six. But even you were
908
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:15.599
gonna get aggressive and push him up the board and go, yeah,
909
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.800
you know what, like I can kind of take this
910
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:22.039
this shot here and go for it. It's just tough
911
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.119
at suret stop because yes, you're already a middle infield territory,
912
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:29.199
but it still feels like you're giving up on like
913
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:33.079
somebody potentially good at a position where there's a lot
914
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:36.159
of options here. And yes, when when you get down
915
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.119
here they're they're not as great. But I think some
916
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.039
of the thinking with drafting him is that you are
917
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:43.320
passing now you mentioned Swanson. You're passing on Swanson like
918
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:44.880
a couple of rounds earlier, so you can kind of
919
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:45.880
take the shot on Griffin.
920
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:52.519
I might, I might actually make a strong This is
921
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.719
gonna sound weird, but I mean I think Weatherholt, while
922
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.280
not anywhere near the player, at least you know the
923
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:04.480
potential player that Griffin is maybe a much more clear
924
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:09.440
path to starting time since Donovan was traded. And the
925
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:13.119
thing I like about Weatherhold is you're not getting the
926
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:16.320
power speed combo that you get with Griffin, but you're
927
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:19.519
not getting nothing either, And I just love the beyond
928
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.679
base and I love that he he spent a good,
929
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:26.239
you know, a chunk last year at Triple A. So
930
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:31.119
I don't, you know again, like I don't think I
931
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.519
probably won't end up with Weatherhold in many places, but
932
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.920
I think going getting closer to that three hundred pick.
933
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:41.920
And if you have a player with like a good
934
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:45.719
foundation of skills who has a clear starting role, then
935
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:47.960
I'm a little maybe a little more on board with
936
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.559
with taking someone like Weatherhold closer to three hundred.
937
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.199
Yeah, I'm with you. I I think I would rather
938
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:57.719
like take take the shot on weather Holds here at
939
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.719
price of course, like in just all things being equal,
940
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.639
I would take Griffin, but you know, it was just
941
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:05.280
straight up where you could have either one. But yeah,
942
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.760
I can see weather Hull contributing right away. I think
943
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.480
it's a good chance to make it an opening day.
944
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:13.360
The projections are underwhelming, but the same is going to
945
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:15.880
be true for Griffin or any like rookie, just because
946
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:19.719
that's what projection models do. And yeah, I could see
947
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.440
weather Holt just being this sort of solid like fifteen
948
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.079
fifteen or fifteen ten player with a decent enough average
949
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:29.119
where it's like, okay, well at this price, I think
950
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.360
it just really like makes a difference here as far
951
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.159
as like where he's going for sure, So yeah, I'm
952
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:36.079
with you.
953
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:40.079
He might be close to his teammate Mason Win, who's
954
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:40.880
also in this year.
955
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.440
Do you do you like Win or do you are you? So?
956
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.960
I know some people like really are counting on the
957
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.840
steels bouncing back, and it's like, well maybe, but I
958
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.360
feel like now like we've sort of been two years
959
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:56.960
of him, Yeah, okay.
960
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:57.400
He is what he is.
961
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:01.760
I think the main argument for Win is that you're
962
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:05.079
getting an everyday player who's not terrible. He's not a
963
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:09.760
zero offensively, but I you know, again, like this is
964
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:13.159
not someone who's going to be a difference maker. So
965
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:17.519
I wouldn't say that I like Win. You know, I'm
966
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:20.039
okay as with wins a stop gap.
967
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:22.199
Well, it just feels to me like the bet with Win.
968
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.480
I've heard a lot of oh, he was hurt last year,
969
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.159
he should run more, he'll bounce up to thirty steals.
970
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.599
It's like, well maybe, and again at this price that
971
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.519
he's fine. But I just feel that I wouldn't get
972
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:37.199
too optimistic about those steals, Like, you're right that this
973
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.880
could be kind of the entire deal, and you know
974
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:44.920
at a two fifty six ADP, it's okay.
975
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:45.320
Yeah.
976
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:47.920
The other thing about Win is that there are so
977
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:52.239
many potential landmines in this tier. You know that in
978
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:54.960
a way, that's true, he's the most reliable, even if
979
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.599
he's pretty underwhelming. Like I feel like Bogarts is really
980
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:02.599
in a decline phase. I maybe would be more interested
981
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:06.559
in Montgomery just because you could get thirty homer power.
982
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:12.800
You know, they'll play him forever in Chicago. He's probably
983
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:15.360
not gonna He's probably gonna be a bad average problem.
984
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.960
But yeah, so you know, actually it's funny. I like
985
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:23.159
Bogarts in Montgomery for different reasons. I think one reason
986
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.280
I like Bogarts is that this is their opposite picks. Like,
987
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.079
Bogarts to me, is a floor pick here if he
988
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.360
was going like he was like last year, and I
989
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.559
don't even know if he was a shortstop, so I
990
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.599
might not like find him. Yeah, last year he was
991
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:41.400
a second baseman, So I'm not gonna spend too much
992
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.639
time fishing for this, but I'm kind of I think
993
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:47.320
he went like what like one fifty or one sixty
994
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:50.480
last year. Yeah, so now you're getting him outside of
995
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:54.079
Yeah he went one fifty one, so now you're and
996
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:57.119
now you're getting him like outside of the top two hundred.
997
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:59.039
He was a ten to twenty player last year. If
998
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:00.920
those steals a click, like he's kind of a ten
999
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:04.280
to fifteen player. The average has dropped off a little bit,
1000
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.320
but it's like always been like good, I know what
1001
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.559
you're saying, Like I think there's a little bit of
1002
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:11.840
decline built in, but at this price, I don't really
1003
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:14.960
care that much. And it's a redraft league, so it's
1004
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.239
not like, oh no, he's thirty five, he's only thirty three.
1005
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:22.519
You're right about Montgomery, like he's a real boomer bus player,
1006
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:27.119
But I feel like this price was going at like
1007
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:28.199
two thirty six.
1008
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:31.039
You're almost all talking.
1009
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:33.639
It's like if he busts, like even in like a
1010
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:36.360
fifteen team, like it's like, yeah, okay, I'll just buy
1011
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:39.760
another middle infielder. He's my third middle infielder. There is
1012
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:43.480
potential here for like not only a thirty home run player,
1013
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:46.199
but like a thirty five home run player. There's just
1014
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:50.840
so much power in the bat, and yes, I acknowledge
1015
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:53.880
the risk that. The one thing about him though, is
1016
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:56.880
like his minor league numbers are what the projection's spinning
1017
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.239
off of. And a lot of that was is he
1018
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.599
had it all first month before the White Sox essentially
1019
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:05.079
like sat him down and took him aside and like
1020
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.639
worked with him, and like after that, the minor league
1021
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:09.519
numbers were kind of in line with the major league numbers.
1022
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:11.920
And no, I'm not saying that he's gonna just repeat
1023
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:14.079
what he did in the second half last year with
1024
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:14.679
the White Sox.
1025
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:15.440
That's lazy.
1026
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:18.440
But I think there's a little bit more here in
1027
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:19.800
the projections are suggesting.
1028
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:24.440
Yeah, no, I agree, and it's it's it's why not,
1029
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.719
you know, play for the upside here, because you know
1030
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:31.360
it might you just might not find this kind of
1031
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:35.599
power later in the draft, especially coming from a middle
1032
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:39.159
and field position. So in that draft where you do
1033
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:41.360
feel like you're a little light on power, it's a
1034
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.559
nice sort of you know, dice roll to maybe make
1035
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:45.760
up in that category.
1036
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:46.360
Yeah.
1037
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:48.920
Well, I think the weird thing about the projections, and
1038
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:52.119
again they're baking in the minor league numbers. I understand why,
1039
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.559
but it seems like they're saying he's going to hit
1040
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.760
about the same number of home runs in a full
1041
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:00.719
season with a lower half average.
1042
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:03.800
Seventy one games, Like come on.
1043
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:07.159
Yeah, I feel like one of two things is gonna happen,
1044
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.320
which either he kind of shortens his stroke a little
1045
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:11.199
bit and then the power does drop and he kind
1046
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:13.760
of hits two forty it's almost like the Mark Biento's
1047
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:17.760
that's result from last year. Or he does hit like
1048
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:19.559
a you know, an f ton of home runs and
1049
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.280
the average drops. I just don't see both bad things happening.
1050
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:26.800
It's like, yeah, I don't buy it. Like so it
1051
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:28.719
is that question of like, well, if he's a thirty
1052
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.119
or thirty five from run hitter with a bad batting average,
1053
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:33.920
can you live with that? You might need to think
1054
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:36.000
about how you're gonna like put your build together a
1055
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:37.880
little bit if you're gonna take on that batting average.
1056
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.760
But I think the powers the power is legit. Like
1057
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:42.960
there's just not a lot of hitters that come out
1058
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.719
of the gate like this, Like it's almost like a
1059
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:48.519
half season of and I'm not comparing them, it's a
1060
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:50.840
half see the Nick Kurtz with a bad batting average,
1061
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:54.000
and it's like at this price. I think I can
1062
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:56.760
live with that that bad batting average, and I'll take
1063
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:57.360
that power.
1064
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:02.239
I would tend to think that the you know, he
1065
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:05.400
keeps swinging away is the likely outcome, given it's the
1066
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.719
White Sox, And yeah, I don't know that what's to
1067
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:10.840
be gained from, you know, if he's going to get
1068
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:13.239
the kind of like coaching that's going to try to
1069
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:17.760
turn him into you know, sort of a you know,
1070
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:20.800
a player who gets on base slightly more and really
1071
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:23.760
SAPs his power like he seems to be, you know,
1072
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.599
someone who's who's what path to major major league career
1073
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:28.800
is with the power?
1074
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.239
I agree, I I guess before we move off Montgomery.
1075
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.000
This is other thing too, is that I look at strikeouts,
1076
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.320
but I also look at like the walks, and if
1077
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:39.639
he was walking, I don't know, like five percent of
1078
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:41.639
the time, I'd be like, oh, man, like this guy's
1079
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.840
just hacking and everything. He had like a nine percent
1080
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:48.239
walk rate, which tells me like, well, like he's swinging
1081
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:49.960
and missing a lot of stuff, but he at least
1082
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.920
he has an approach like he's not just I'm gonna
1083
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:56.559
swing at everything and you know, worry about it later. Yeah,
1084
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:00.480
let's see is there anyone else here. I don't ye
1085
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:04.159
talk about.
1086
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:06.000
You know, he is what he is. We'll get it,
1087
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.719
We'll get eighty two hundred games and he'll be pretty good.
1088
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:11.440
You just kind of hope you you get those games
1089
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:13.639
the front end like we did two years ago, and
1090
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.159
you know, not like interspersed. You're like, man, do I
1091
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:18.119
do I have to drop this guy? And I think
1092
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:21.320
that's part of why he's going at this price. Yeah,
1093
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:24.639
So let's see the final tier here, which I think
1094
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:27.320
is kind of short because there's a lot of there's
1095
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:33.679
there's four shortstops here, Kevin McGonagall, Zach McKinstry, Josh Smith,
1096
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:36.679
and Anthony Volpi. And I think you made this point
1097
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.920
before the show, like, yeah, this is where as great
1098
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:42.599
as shortstop is, like the there is a there is
1099
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:45.360
a drop here, Like there is a drop off where
1100
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:48.760
it's like, oh, like it's not a position I have
1101
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:50.639
to take a shortsop in the first two rounds, but
1102
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.159
I also probably want to decide where my line is,
1103
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:57.199
like whether it's like Swanson or Adamis or whoever it is,
1104
00:55:57.880 --> 00:55:59.760
so that you're not like like it's one thing to
1105
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:03.840
take Colson Montgomery midl infield for example, you don't probably don't.
1106
00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:05.719
I shouldn't say probably, you definitely don't want him to
1107
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:06.800
your primary shortstop.
1108
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:11.079
No, And you know here is when I'm also like,
1109
00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:13.920
let's assume that I have a starting shortstop, and at
1110
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:16.519
this point we were just looking for a middle and
1111
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:19.079
field slash bench player. And that's where I think McKinstry
1112
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:22.199
and Josh Smith are are kind of good players tad
1113
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.960
to your roster because they're they're both just sort of
1114
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:30.480
you know, spackle to well. To a McKinstry, I think,
1115
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:33.880
you know, he emerged. We we rode him quite much
1116
00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:37.039
more than we had intended to here, and he's you know,
1117
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:39.679
Tigers are getting better. I think he's solid. Same with
1118
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:40.920
Smith and the.
1119
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:45.400
Multiple well, the thing with players like this at these prices,
1120
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:48.400
and again this is the nfb C thing and draft champions.
1121
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.360
A draft, you know is drafts and hold. So that's
1122
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:53.960
part of it too. These multi positional players in leagues
1123
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.440
that either are drafts at hold or you know, you
1124
00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.199
have a bench in oil, they're worth their weight in
1125
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:02.519
gold because yeah, you're making those lineup changes twice a week.
1126
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:05.159
It's like, oh, I've got McKinstry, like and we did
1127
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.360
this all the time. It's like, oh, he's my outfielder
1128
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.000
this week and we have an injury er, we have
1129
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:12.280
a you know, a left hander who's facing three lefties
1130
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.960
and it looks bad, or you know, he's my third
1131
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.320
basement because you know forever reason and you know, same
1132
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:19.920
thing with Smith, who will have you know he's gonna
1133
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:24.440
start at second so eligibly every infield position. Yeah, these
1134
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:26.880
guys are guys that you really want. Don't know if
1135
00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:29.320
you talk much more about McGonagall because he kind of
1136
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:31.639
falls into the rookie conversation.
1137
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:34.239
Yeah, I think we kind of did that as a
1138
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:34.880
as a kind.
1139
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:38.559
Of a and then Bulpi is just really the you know,
1140
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:43.320
this kind of goes to the injury thing where he's
1141
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:47.079
kind of the weaker version of last year's zach Netto
1142
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:50.000
where I think in a league that you could eye
1143
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.760
l a guy that this is way too low. I
1144
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:56.440
understand why the price is where it is for NFBC,
1145
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:59.960
although even there he might be a couple of round
1146
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:01.599
is lower than he should be.
1147
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:04.920
Yeah, it's really the question of can you can you
1148
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.039
keep him around? I mean I will say that, like
1149
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:09.719
dropping an Anthony Volpi is going to be a lot
1150
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:13.760
less painful than dropping a Connor Griffin. So that's fair,
1151
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:15.880
you know, I think at this point in the draft,
1152
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.199
it's it's not a bad role to take because if
1153
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:21.320
he's an everyday player, you know, he's got got some
1154
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:24.039
speed still young.
1155
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:28.719
Yeah, growth, But the tough thing with Bulpi is that
1156
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:32.280
batting average, which it could get better. But he's a
1157
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:35.800
lifetime two twenty two hitters. So yes, he's power speed,
1158
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:39.599
but you're taking a big hit in like one category.
1159
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:44.079
And you know, yes, he's on the Yankees, but you
1160
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.960
know he's probably gonna bad. I'd have to imagine like
1161
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:49.159
like near the bottom of the lineup because you know
1162
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.280
he walks, but he's not on base machines, you know,
1163
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:54.840
to your point of the sub three hundred on bass players.
1164
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:57.440
So yeah, like, like, I think there's a bit of
1165
00:58:57.440 --> 00:58:59.400
a bargain baked in here. I just I'm not I
1166
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.159
don't want to out. I don't want you to think, oh,
1167
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:03.920
you're you're getting an absolute steal here a pick three
1168
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:06.679
forty nine. It's like, well, there's a couple of rounds
1169
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:10.039
of bargain baked in, but don't go nuts any anyone
1170
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:13.119
else here beyond like pick you know three sixty that
1171
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:15.599
you want to talk about. I know you said before
1172
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:18.639
the show it really kind of things out, so probably not.
1173
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:22.039
I scan this list, I'm like, oh, there's got to
1174
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:27.800
be someone here. There really isn't there there's no one.
1175
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:28.840
Well, you know what it is.
1176
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:32.639
There's these are your A lot of these guys are
1177
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:37.079
your like only league grinders. And you know, you know
1178
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:39.320
a prospect here and I think you're highlight on right
1179
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:42.559
now that that is Jet Williams, who could have a
1180
00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:45.840
path like pretty quickly just because you know he was
1181
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:50.079
traded for They have a hole at shortstop.
1182
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:51.519
Should should get some speed there.
1183
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.119
He should get some speed. You know, he was DTA
1184
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:56.039
even with the Mets with like twenty twenty five. I
1185
00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:59.440
think he'd be upsuit around them later. But but the
1186
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:03.360
players here, you know, these are your only league players.
1187
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:06.760
You've got Joe your T's and JP Crawford, which if
1188
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:11.000
you're if you're living with them the whole season in
1189
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:13.679
a mixed league, you've got a problem. But in an
1190
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:16.880
only league, a guy like Crawford is just great because
1191
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:19.079
he does a little bit of everything.
1192
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:20.440
He won't hurt your average.
1193
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.679
The on base if you're not on base league needs
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plenty of runs and yeah, like like like these are
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the kind of guys that that are gonna be fine.
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They're they're not targets like don't don't target Crawford, don't
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target or tease. But they're kind of both at prices
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where they're just sort of fine to have and and
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if you can get them on the cheap end in
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an only league, it's it's great.
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Yeah, Crawford's you know in the Mariners are are it's
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weird to say this, but a good lineup. And you
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know he's hitting ninth, he's sort of you know, leading off,
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you know, at the at the bottom of the order,
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kind of quasi leading off.
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So yeah, he's not he's not terrible.
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My my deep, deep, deep sleeper, like particularly early on
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because of injury is hoorge potao. So Hussung Kim is
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going to start on the EL. I see Mauricio Dubau
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listed as a starter short for the for the Braves,
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but I think it's gonna be mateo. And we've seen
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before like you can get both extremes. He can do nothing,
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but he could also like like eight, Yeah, he can
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steal eight bases of a month and he's somebody I
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went an n FBC, I might take it the twenty
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ninth or thirtieth round of a thirty round draft and
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be like, you know what, if it works, great, If
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it doesn't, he's a thirtieth round pick. I mean, he
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costs what's his mint? His min is three sixty seven,
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so he's going a little bit earlier now, but he's
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still costs nothing.
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The oceans will will be swallowing cities, the sun will
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be baking the earth, and we'll still be talking about
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Horae Matteo.
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Yeah, maybe he'll have a fast April and people will
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once again, you know, talk about how special philbees. All Right,
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thank you once again for listening to episode three point
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thirty seven of Flags Fly Forever, a Baseball Perspectives Fantasy
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Baseball podcasts. We are rolling along with our positional previews.
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As I said, this week, we did chortstops. Next week
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we'll do relief pictures. Hooray, everybody's favorite position. We're also
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closing in on the season, but.
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To be clear, not doing a relief picture podcast.
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We are not going to do a relief picture podcast,
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so we'll probably talk about them a little bit, but yeah,
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sorry to disappoint. It's Pakoda week at Baseball Perspectives, so
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beyond the fantasy covers, there's plenty of great Pakoda articles.
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The projections are out. You can find those projections in
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the acts for your your fantasy needs. So yeah, definitely,
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you know, this is the time of year you should
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be reading Baseball Perspectives all year, but there's definitely the
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time of year to read and subscribe if you are
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not subscribing anything else, Sean, before we close out.
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Hey, if you want to rate and review, we would
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love that. And yeah, baseball's around the corner all right.
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For Mike Jella, for John Haglin, Dubai and we should
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be back next week to talk about strategy.
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Strategy, thank you, good night, okay, and