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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated, too, to find out if any of our listeners were stung or have been stung in similar scenarios, like though 100-odd cars that were at a park year car park on Anzac Highway, Morphable Racecourse, on Sunday during the Come Alive show, which is a show that's based on The Greatest Showman. The people that parked in what they thought was just perfectly available public parks were Cop fines. Nearly $ 100 the fines were worth. And there's a lot of confusion about the enforceability of them because on the fine it says this is not an expiation.
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Speaker 2: This is not.
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Speaker 1: There's weird language written on it. And people think, well, hang on. Who's issuing this? It's the car park owner, is it?
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Speaker 2: It's not a council. Is it a council?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: If you got.
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Speaker 1: Stung by this and you're a little surprised, we'd love to hear from you. We'll be chatting with someone who was precisely in that boat at that show. But you've said, Stacey, that there are other people who've gone to other things that have had these similar experiences I don't even know what to call them because they're not officially expiations.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a fine. It looks like one you'd get from a council, but it does have a little disclaimer on it. I've had a couple of these in the past, and I don't know if this is irresponsible to say, but I just don't pay them.
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Speaker 2: Well, are they enforceable? I don't think they are. Well, no one's ever come at me.
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Speaker 1: I imagine they'd have to, one, identify you, and two, then pursue you in court, which wouldn't Probably doesn't make much sense for anybody to do that.
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Speaker 2: It's intriguing. Don't take my advice on that. Maybe consult a lawyer or someone. Not a lawyer. 8223 0000. If you've been in that boat, though. I just don't. We'd love to hear from you. Let's spin the wheel, shall we? We've got a Care Alert emergency watch to give away.
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Speaker 1: Care Alert, wonderful business. Spoke with the Stills the other day. They're gallivanting around the world. Personal alert system, second to none. Call them today to find out if you qualify for a free system through government funding. Or you can visit carealert.com.au.
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Speaker 2: What do we consider that? It is right... I think it's a 17. 17. I think it's a 17. It didn't tick over into 18.
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Speaker 1: Full transparency. It's on the Facebook and YouTube live stream. 17, I'm going to call it. That was number 1942. So people who are 84 or turning 84 this year, 1942. I think we had the same age last week.
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Speaker 2: Did we?
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Speaker 3: Maybe.
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Speaker 1: There is something about the wheel that is less than random, shall we say. It wouldn't You know, if there was some sort of audit that were done, a la a casino, that wheel would be flagged, I think.
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Speaker 3: We're not regulated by the Lotteries Agency.
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Speaker 1: And you'd think, well, as a radio station, you know, there's some smoke and mirrors. We don't design how it comes up, by the way. We're just using a dodgy wheel. Pointing back to our subject in the first hour this morning. 1942 is the year for the Carolette smartwatch. So get calling now on 8223 0000 in the meantime. Let's bring Annette Vermeer into the conversation. Annette was someone who copped one of these fines at the show near Morfaville.
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Speaker 2: Annette, good morning to you.
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Speaker 3: Good morning. Good morning.
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Speaker 2: So just tell us the circumstances.
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Speaker 1: Annette, in terms of where you were, what the fines said, and how many other cars around you copped fines?
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Speaker 3: Well, I went to the show and we were in a hurry because I worked and I had to, and if you don't get in the show, they closed the big top for the first couple of acts. We drove in, flew into the thing, and when we came out, there was this $ 98 fine. Not a $ 15 or a $ 30 or a $ 40 fine. There was a $ 98 fine on my card.
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Speaker 1: $ 98.
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Speaker 3: And then when I read it closely, and I thought, I didn't even see that. I didn't even see that. Because I've parked there many times. It's the Junction Hotel. I've parked there many times. And I didn't even see that. Anyway, I read it, and it said, this is not an expiation plan. or a parking fine. So I was like, well, what is it then? I'm not understanding. So I have done a little bit of research into it and they literally, they can't, because they can't get my details because they're not the council. They're a private parking place and they can't get my details because, and if they do, that's a breach of privacy. So literally the only way they can do it is to take you to court. Now, if they take me to court, I'm not sure how they do that without getting my details. And it's just going to cost them. So what they're hoping on, I'm assuming, this is someone telling me that they're hoping that, say, 30% of those people pay that $ 98 because they've made a bit of a profit. And this car park, apparently, I've done some investigation, has only just been put in for this show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was reading that in the teaser. It's privately owned land, and the car park just.
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Speaker 1: Was introduced, or the paid parking side of it was introduced at the start of spring.
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing the Walfordville Racecourse for spring racing? Yeah, just to smash everyone during this period. Just to sting a few extra people. So, Annette, what are you going to do with the fine? Are you going to throw it in the special filing cabinet, the bin?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why my special filing cabinet. No, I'm not going to pay it. I mean, I've been advised, don't worry about it, you don't have to pay it. So I'm not paying it, yeah. So because, I mean, $ 98. And, you know, regardless, $ 98, that is just ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Was it clearly marked, Annette? Like, could you tell it was a car park?
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Speaker 3: To be really honest, I honestly didn't see it. But I was in such a hurry when I went in. I didn't see it. I honestly didn't see that it was a car park. Because had I seen that, I probably would have thought, oh, well, I won't park there. I didn't see it. that it was a car park, like as in a paid car park.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Because as I said, I've parked there a number of times, like a number of times and not... Because I've been to that, you know, even in that hotel a number of times and I've never, never seen that there was a car park. And then when I investigated it, it's only just been put up. So... Yeah, so $ 98. So, yes, thank you very much for a nice evening out. And there was a whole lot of people getting to their cars and going, oh, my God.
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Speaker 2: $ 98.
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Speaker 3: It was like all these people going to their cars. So I wasn't the only one that missed that it was a car park.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is fascinating. Annette, thank you. Good to chat with you.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated, too, to find out if any of our listeners were stung or have been stung in similar scenarios, like though 100-odd cars that were at a park year car park on Anzac Highway, Morphable Racecourse, on Sunday during the Come Alive show, which is a show that's based on The Greatest Showman. The people that parked in what they thought was just perfectly available public parks were Cop fines. Nearly $ 100 the fines were worth. And there's a lot of confusion about the enforceability of them because on the fine it says this is not an expiation.
00:00:31
Speaker 2: This is not.
00:00:32
Speaker 1: There's weird language written on it. And people think, well, hang on. Who's issuing this? It's the car park owner, is it?
00:00:38
Speaker 2: It's not a council. Is it a council?
00:00:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:00:40
Speaker 2: If you got.
00:00:41
Speaker 1: Stung by this and you're a little surprised, we'd love to hear from you. We'll be chatting with someone who was precisely in that boat at that show. But you've said, Stacey, that there are other people who've gone to other things that have had these similar experiences I don't even know what to call them because they're not officially expiations.
00:00:54
Speaker 3: No.
00:00:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a fine. It looks like one you'd get from a council, but it does have a little disclaimer on it. I've had a couple of these in the past, and I don't know if this is irresponsible to say, but I just don't pay them.
00:01:06
Speaker 2: Well, are they enforceable? I don't think they are. Well, no one's ever come at me.
00:01:10
Speaker 1: I imagine they'd have to, one, identify you, and two, then pursue you in court, which wouldn't Probably doesn't make much sense for anybody to do that.
00:01:19
Speaker 2: It's intriguing. Don't take my advice on that. Maybe consult a lawyer or someone. Not a lawyer. 8223 0000. If you've been in that boat, though. I just don't. We'd love to hear from you. Let's spin the wheel, shall we? We've got a Care Alert emergency watch to give away.
00:01:34
Speaker 1: Care Alert, wonderful business. Spoke with the Stills the other day. They're gallivanting around the world. Personal alert system, second to none. Call them today to find out if you qualify for a free system through government funding. Or you can visit carealert.com.au.
00:01:45
Speaker 2: What do we consider that? It is right... I think it's a 17. 17. I think it's a 17. It didn't tick over into 18.
00:01:51
Speaker 1: Full transparency. It's on the Facebook and YouTube live stream. 17, I'm going to call it. That was number 1942. So people who are 84 or turning 84 this year, 1942. I think we had the same age last week.
00:02:07
Speaker 2: Did we?
00:02:08
Speaker 3: Maybe.
00:02:08
Speaker 1: There is something about the wheel that is less than random, shall we say. It wouldn't You know, if there was some sort of audit that were done, a la a casino, that wheel would be flagged, I think.
00:02:20
Speaker 3: We're not regulated by the Lotteries Agency.
00:02:22
Speaker 1: And you'd think, well, as a radio station, you know, there's some smoke and mirrors. We don't design how it comes up, by the way. We're just using a dodgy wheel. Pointing back to our subject in the first hour this morning. 1942 is the year for the Carolette smartwatch. So get calling now on 8223 0000 in the meantime. Let's bring Annette Vermeer into the conversation. Annette was someone who copped one of these fines at the show near Morfaville.
00:02:49
Speaker 2: Annette, good morning to you.
00:02:51
Speaker 3: Good morning. Good morning.
00:02:53
Speaker 2: So just tell us the circumstances.
00:02:54
Speaker 1: Annette, in terms of where you were, what the fines said, and how many other cars around you copped fines?
00:03:01
Speaker 3: Well, I went to the show and we were in a hurry because I worked and I had to, and if you don't get in the show, they closed the big top for the first couple of acts. We drove in, flew into the thing, and when we came out, there was this $ 98 fine. Not a $ 15 or a $ 30 or a $ 40 fine. There was a $ 98 fine on my card.
00:03:24
Speaker 1: $ 98.
00:03:24
Speaker 3: And then when I read it closely, and I thought, I didn't even see that. I didn't even see that. Because I've parked there many times. It's the Junction Hotel. I've parked there many times. And I didn't even see that. Anyway, I read it, and it said, this is not an expiation plan. or a parking fine. So I was like, well, what is it then? I'm not understanding. So I have done a little bit of research into it and they literally, they can't, because they can't get my details because they're not the council. They're a private parking place and they can't get my details because, and if they do, that's a breach of privacy. So literally the only way they can do it is to take you to court. Now, if they take me to court, I'm not sure how they do that without getting my details. And it's just going to cost them. So what they're hoping on, I'm assuming, this is someone telling me that they're hoping that, say, 30% of those people pay that $ 98 because they've made a bit of a profit. And this car park, apparently, I've done some investigation, has only just been put in for this show.
00:04:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was reading that in the teaser. It's privately owned land, and the car park just.
00:04:41
Speaker 1: Was introduced, or the paid parking side of it was introduced at the start of spring.
00:04:46
Speaker 2: I'm guessing the Walfordville Racecourse for spring racing? Yeah, just to smash everyone during this period. Just to sting a few extra people. So, Annette, what are you going to do with the fine? Are you going to throw it in the special filing cabinet, the bin?
00:04:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why my special filing cabinet. No, I'm not going to pay it. I mean, I've been advised, don't worry about it, you don't have to pay it. So I'm not paying it, yeah. So because, I mean, $ 98. And, you know, regardless, $ 98, that is just ridiculous.
00:05:15
Speaker 2: Was it clearly marked, Annette? Like, could you tell it was a car park?
00:05:18
Speaker 3: To be really honest, I honestly didn't see it. But I was in such a hurry when I went in. I didn't see it. I honestly didn't see that it was a car park. Because had I seen that, I probably would have thought, oh, well, I won't park there. I didn't see it. that it was a car park, like as in a paid car park.
00:05:34
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:05:34
Speaker 3: Because as I said, I've parked there a number of times, like a number of times and not... Because I've been to that, you know, even in that hotel a number of times and I've never, never seen that there was a car park. And then when I investigated it, it's only just been put up. So... Yeah, so $ 98. So, yes, thank you very much for a nice evening out. And there was a whole lot of people getting to their cars and going, oh, my God.
00:05:59
Speaker 2: $ 98.
00:06:00
Speaker 3: It was like all these people going to their cars. So I wasn't the only one that missed that it was a car park.
00:06:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is fascinating. Annette, thank you. Good to chat with you.
