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The following was recorded during the twenty fifteen Irving Oil
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Challenge Cup. And I'm very pleased now to be joined
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by I would say, the legend and the icon Ken Dryden.
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First of all, mister Dryden, thanks very much for doing this.
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And how have you enjoyed your couple of days here
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in the Halifax Dartmouth area.
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I always do, and I guess it goes my first
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times really go back to when I was playing with
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the Montreal.
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Voyagers and we played half our.
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Home games here in Halifax and then back. Been back
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many times, and when I was a member of Parliament,
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was here many times. But it's been a good couple
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of days and the culmination now it's a really good game.
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Go back even to your college days at Cornell. How
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different is the game now? I mean, I look at
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some of these young bantamage players. I'm six two. Some
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of these players dwarf me. What are some of the
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biggest changes that you've seen in today's game compared to
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when you played?
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Well, it's a game that gets always faster, and for
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probably two big reasons. One is the equipment gets a
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lot lighter, But even more than that, it's that the
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shifts are shorter. When I was playing that the average
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shift would be a minute or a little bit more
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than a minute. Now in the NHL, at least, I
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mean it's thirty five seconds.
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And so it's full sprint once you're on the ice
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until you go back off the ice to be.
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Replaced by somebody else who then is in a full sprint,
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And so that speeds things up.
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And then and also that, I mean, the sticks.
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Are so much lighter, so much easier to more easily handled,
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and because of that, then with all of this speed,
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you can make passes that are a whole lot better
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than we could make them. And so it's it's really
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quite a remarkable game. And even these kids at Bannam level,
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I mean they know what they're doing.
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What does it mean to you to be able to
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have the podium and to share some of your null
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wisdom with these young men?
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Well it I mean, first of all, it's fun. And
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second of all, I mean we all we all remember
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when we were fourteen years old and being in a
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tournament and being in something that you're gearing yourself towards.
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I mean I get asked a lot, you know what
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it feels like to win a Stanley Cup. And I
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say to people, have you ever been in a championship
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game at any level in any sport? And they'll say, well, yeah, basketball,
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Well that's what it's like. That's what a Stanley Cup
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is like, because it's it's the same thing.
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It's a team.
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It's working your way through months of a year, all
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kinds of games and practices, ups and downs, times that
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you think you'll never win another game, times when you
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think you'll never lose another game, and working your way
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towards it and and finally reaching the goal that all
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of you had together. And so you know, you speak
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to kids like last night, and you know what they
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feel like, and it's a great feeling.
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Have you noticed a change in the game? And what
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do you think when you watch goaltenders now, even at
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the NHL level but down here in terms of how
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much more coaching and attention they get.
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Well they do. But I mean even more than that.
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It's the style which really has come from the equipment
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that once masks became pretty much perfect, which started in
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maybe the early nineteen eighties, where you could get hit
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off the mask and it was like getting hit on
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the blocker. I mean, your hardly even blinked, it was
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no big deal at all. Then goalies no longer had
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to play as if they were playing with a compromise
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between performance and safety, so they knew they could bring
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their head below the bar. I mean, the whole idea
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of a stand up style before was the compromise you had.
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To because if you either had no mask or.
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Allowsy mask, then you had to offer yourself some protection,
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so you stood up in a much more straight way.
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Now you can bring your whole body below the bar.
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You've got With your whole body below the bar, you're
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covering more of the net. With lighter equipment, you can
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wear bigger equipment.
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It means that you then have a.
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Whole lot less for a shooter to shoot at, and
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that shooter better have a good light stick to be
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able to hit a much smaller opening because there are
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only much smaller openings.
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So all of it.
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I mean, the coaches are smart enough to learn what
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a goalie can do now, so they coach to that.
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But really the change came about because of the nature
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of the equipment itself.
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Back in your day when you played, obviously, masks are different,
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the paths were different. I know, on your team Montreal.
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Gilafleur was a guy that other goalies didn't like to face.
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But who was the guy that when they came down
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and you were thinking the document, oh man, he's gonna
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let one rip on me.
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Well, there are always a couple on each team, and
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and it wasn't just the ones who could really let
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them rip, but the ones who were dangerous, who were
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had they they had.
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No idea where the puck was going to go.
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Dennis Hull was was a tough one that way because
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he shot really hard, but he was he was all
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over the place and often really high in terms of players.
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Who were who shot hard, but they pretty much knew
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where it was going.
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Reggie Leech for Philadelphia was for a couple of years
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he was really good that way. And uh, and then
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there were you know, there were a lot that you
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know that.
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That did shoot hard.
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I mean, one of the surprising things is that I mean,
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in terms of the of the fastest shot now, the
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speed that's measured now is not much different than the
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speed that was measured thirty years ago.
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And and I think that you know the different is
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that you is.
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That you you know, you can let a hard shot
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go now much more release it much more quickly.
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You know, with the with the kind of sticks that
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you have. The actual force isn't that much greater, but.
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The difficulty of stopping it is because the release is
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so much quicker.
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Where do you see the game of hockey going as
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more people get to enjoy it, more people get to
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watch it, and the way the game is delivered changes.
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Where do you see hockey going over the next ten
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fifteen years In terms of globally.
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I'm not sure, actually, I mean it's that in terms
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of I mean certainly in the US that there are
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you know, many parts of the US now where hockey
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is played with some significant numbers. I mean, and I
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remember looking this up not that long ago, but there
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would be there are more players playing in Texas than
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are playing in New Brunswick. There are more players playing
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in Michigan than there are in Massachusetts. Illinois has a
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huge number, California, and and the thing that you that
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the understanding of how you develop players is so much different.
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It used to be the assumption that you needed masses
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of players in order.
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To produce a few great stars.
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Now you can produce great stars with very few players playing.
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And so you can have those great stars come out
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of programs in states that are not traditional hockey places,
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and you can do the same thing in Europe. And
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and of course you know that there are more players
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now from Slovakia, from you know, France, from Switzerland, from Slovenia,
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from and and and so I suspect that there will
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be even more of that from you know, from Norway,
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from Denmark.
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There'll be more of that that will happen as well.
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Well. Mister ken Dryden, it has been an absolute honor
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and pleasure of mind to have you sit alongside of
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me for a few minutes of this. Appreciate it very much.
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Enjoy the rest of your time here in Dartmouth.
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Thank you very much. Thanks, Thanks coach,
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The following was recorded during the twenty fifteen Irving Oil
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Challenge Cup. And I'm very pleased now to be joined
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by I would say, the legend and the icon Ken Dryden.
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First of all, mister Dryden, thanks very much for doing this.
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And how have you enjoyed your couple of days here
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in the Halifax Dartmouth area.
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I always do, and I guess it goes my first
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times really go back to when I was playing with
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the Montreal.
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Voyagers and we played half our.
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Home games here in Halifax and then back. Been back
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many times, and when I was a member of Parliament,
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was here many times. But it's been a good couple
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of days and the culmination now it's a really good game.
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Go back even to your college days at Cornell. How
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different is the game now? I mean, I look at
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some of these young bantamage players. I'm six two. Some
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of these players dwarf me. What are some of the
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biggest changes that you've seen in today's game compared to
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when you played?
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Well, it's a game that gets always faster, and for
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probably two big reasons. One is the equipment gets a
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lot lighter, But even more than that, it's that the
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shifts are shorter. When I was playing that the average
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shift would be a minute or a little bit more
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than a minute. Now in the NHL, at least, I
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mean it's thirty five seconds.
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And so it's full sprint once you're on the ice
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until you go back off the ice to be.
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Replaced by somebody else who then is in a full sprint,
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And so that speeds things up.
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And then and also that, I mean, the sticks.
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Are so much lighter, so much easier to more easily handled,
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and because of that, then with all of this speed,
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you can make passes that are a whole lot better
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than we could make them. And so it's it's really
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quite a remarkable game. And even these kids at Bannam level,
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I mean they know what they're doing.
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What does it mean to you to be able to
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have the podium and to share some of your null
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wisdom with these young men?
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Well it I mean, first of all, it's fun. And
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second of all, I mean we all we all remember
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when we were fourteen years old and being in a
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tournament and being in something that you're gearing yourself towards.
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I mean I get asked a lot, you know what
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it feels like to win a Stanley Cup. And I
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say to people, have you ever been in a championship
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game at any level in any sport? And they'll say, well, yeah, basketball,
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Well that's what it's like. That's what a Stanley Cup
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is like, because it's it's the same thing.
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It's a team.
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It's working your way through months of a year, all
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kinds of games and practices, ups and downs, times that
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you think you'll never win another game, times when you
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think you'll never lose another game, and working your way
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towards it and and finally reaching the goal that all
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of you had together. And so you know, you speak
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to kids like last night, and you know what they
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feel like, and it's a great feeling.
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Have you noticed a change in the game? And what
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do you think when you watch goaltenders now, even at
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the NHL level but down here in terms of how
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much more coaching and attention they get.
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Well they do. But I mean even more than that.
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It's the style which really has come from the equipment
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that once masks became pretty much perfect, which started in
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maybe the early nineteen eighties, where you could get hit
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off the mask and it was like getting hit on
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the blocker. I mean, your hardly even blinked, it was
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no big deal at all. Then goalies no longer had
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to play as if they were playing with a compromise
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between performance and safety, so they knew they could bring
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their head below the bar. I mean, the whole idea
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of a stand up style before was the compromise you had.
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To because if you either had no mask or.
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Allowsy mask, then you had to offer yourself some protection,
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so you stood up in a much more straight way.
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Now you can bring your whole body below the bar.
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You've got With your whole body below the bar, you're
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covering more of the net. With lighter equipment, you can
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wear bigger equipment.
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It means that you then have a.
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Whole lot less for a shooter to shoot at, and
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that shooter better have a good light stick to be
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able to hit a much smaller opening because there are
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only much smaller openings.
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So all of it.
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I mean, the coaches are smart enough to learn what
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a goalie can do now, so they coach to that.
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of the equipment itself.
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Back in your day when you played, obviously, masks are different,
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the paths were different. I know, on your team Montreal.
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Gilafleur was a guy that other goalies didn't like to face.
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But who was the guy that when they came down
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and you were thinking the document, oh man, he's gonna
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let one rip on me.
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Well, there are always a couple on each team, and
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and it wasn't just the ones who could really let
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them rip, but the ones who were dangerous, who were
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had they they had.
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No idea where the puck was going to go.
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Dennis Hull was was a tough one that way because
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he shot really hard, but he was he was all
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over the place and often really high in terms of players.
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Who were who shot hard, but they pretty much knew
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where it was going.
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Reggie Leech for Philadelphia was for a couple of years
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he was really good that way. And uh, and then
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there were you know, there were a lot that you
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know that.
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That did shoot hard.
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I mean, one of the surprising things is that I mean,
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in terms of the of the fastest shot now, the
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speed that's measured now is not much different than the
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speed that was measured thirty years ago.
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And and I think that you know the different is
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that you is.
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That you you know, you can let a hard shot
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go now much more release it much more quickly.
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you have. The actual force isn't that much greater, but.
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The difficulty of stopping it is because the release is
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so much quicker.
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Where do you see the game of hockey going as
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more people get to enjoy it, more people get to
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watch it, and the way the game is delivered changes.
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Where do you see hockey going over the next ten
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fifteen years In terms of globally.
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I'm not sure, actually, I mean it's that in terms
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of I mean certainly in the US that there are
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you know, many parts of the US now where hockey
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is played with some significant numbers. I mean, and I
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remember looking this up not that long ago, but there
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would be there are more players playing in Texas than
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are playing in New Brunswick. There are more players playing
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in Michigan than there are in Massachusetts. Illinois has a
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huge number, California, and and the thing that you that
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the understanding of how you develop players is so much different.
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It used to be the assumption that you needed masses
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of players in order.
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To produce a few great stars.
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Now you can produce great stars with very few players playing.
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And so you can have those great stars come out
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of programs in states that are not traditional hockey places,
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and you can do the same thing in Europe. And
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and of course you know that there are more players
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now from Slovakia, from you know, France, from Switzerland, from Slovenia,
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from and and and so I suspect that there will
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be even more of that from you know, from Norway,
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from Denmark.
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There'll be more of that that will happen as well.
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Well. Mister ken Dryden, it has been an absolute honor
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and pleasure of mind to have you sit alongside of
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me for a few minutes of this. Appreciate it very much.
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Enjoy the rest of your time here in Dartmouth.
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Thank you very much. Thanks, Thanks coach,
