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Donald,
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I admit that I'm impressed since I'm
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someone legit to come and sit and talk
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some stuff.
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Hey there, Swarmcast guys. Oh, look. I
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got a buddy here. I'm a squishy aba.
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Anyways,
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put that over there. So,
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hey there, Swarmcast listeners.
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I've got um that squishy eyeball may
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have given it away, but I've got a guest
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on today from Creature Curations. I've
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got Brian Coen. How's it going, Brian?
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>> Hey, thanks for having me. It's great to
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be here. Today is a fantastic day. I get
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to play games tonight, so that's going
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to be a good day.
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>> Oh, that's very cool. I might try to
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trick some I mean, I might try to uh
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play some games tonight, too. We'll see.
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>> Awesome.
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>> But, um, I've got a bunch of stuff here
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in the background, which may or may not
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come out on the thing, but it's all from
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you guys.
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>> Yes.
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>> And in fact, just recently, free RPG
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day, I picked up this.
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>> Oh, right. Thanks for grabbing that. I'm
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glad you were able to snag one. Yeah, it
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was pretty cool. I I think I I licked
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most of the pages.
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>> I mean, they taste great, don't they?
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>> Oh, yeah.
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>> It's crazy because the the the Vas Grim
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pages taste very different than the
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Raptor Ruckus pages, which taste very
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different than the Neon Bastard pages.
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We wanted to try and, you know, have a
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variety of flavors in there.
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>> Okay. I did kind of notice that the
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Raptor ones were a bit more meteor.
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>> Yes. And the other ones kind of had like
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a kind of sour patch kind of taste. I
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don't know. It's weird.
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>> Whatever neon tastes like sour.
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>> So, ah, you guys have been around for a
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bit and you've done all sorts of stuff.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um, wow. Where to begin on this? So, so
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tell us about some of your your stuff
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that you made. Maybe if you want to
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start with some of the
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>> Yeah. the older stuff or the newer
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stuff. Um, let's briefly talk about some
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of the older stuff, but we'll definitely
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focus on the newer stuff.
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>> Sure. I started in the RPG industry in
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2016 at Gen Con in the art show, and I
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made sculptures and then I started
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making like enamel pins, uh, which I
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still make to this day just because one
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of a kind sculptures were hard for
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people to afford. And then the first RPG
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thing that I published was cardography,
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which were like dungeon crawls in a deck
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that I co-published with Norse Foundry.
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And then my kids were young and into
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blind box squishies and plushies. So I
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made uh bl weird blind box creatures
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based off of RPG stuff because uh other
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companies hadn't done that yet. And then
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as I I did a 5e setting and bestiary and
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a thing right before the pandemic. And
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then post during the pandemic and uh
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post pandemic I got into more rules
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light RPGs and I started making Vascrim
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with my friend Ross and then have just
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done a ton of books with that. A card
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game with my friend Duncan set in the
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same universe called Plunder Lust. A
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skirmish game set in the same universe
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called Squirmish. And then this year
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I've started taking on publishing
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Friends works including Raptor Ruckus,
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Neon Bastards, Winds of Hell, and I've
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also recently started doing some pirate
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board thirdparty stuff just because I
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run a pirate board game for my kids and
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some friends and uh figure I might as
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well publish the things I'm already
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making for that game, too. So, because
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you know, why not just keep making
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stuff?
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>> Very, very cool. And your all your
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stuff. Um, I think I probably discovered
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you guys through all the squishies and
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stuff because
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>> I was getting a lot of the the eyeball
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monsters and the the jelly cubes. And as
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you can see here, we have one of the the
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mimic boxes. I think I got that from
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here in 20 24 maybe. I don't remember.
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>> Sounds about right because that was part
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of my that was part of series two of the
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RPG squeeze when I did a Kickstarter for
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that. Yeah. And it came with a lot of
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cool stuff in it. I've got these little
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acrylic minis. I've got um some biary
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cards that you guys did.
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>> Oh, awesome. Yeah.
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>> And some pins and some some patches that
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I need to get ironed onto my jacket
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whenever I find wherever I put my
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jacket. I'm still unpacking stuff from
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Origins where I briefly ran into you
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guys.
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>> Yes. Yes. That was a good time.
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>> Yeah. So what is you mentioned fast grim
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and that was all over your booth but
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what are so what's what's would you say
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is your your big thing and some of your
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cool new stuff that you got?
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>> So Vascrim is my big main game. That's
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like my bem movie splatterpunk sci-fi
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horror RPG. Uh, I've done multiple
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books, adventure books, and like
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upcoming at Gen Con, I'll be running
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that for the first time for an audience
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with uh cast members of like the Arcane
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animated series and the Stranger Things
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1985 series. So, that's like a giant win
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for me. Um, getting to run the game for
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and have other people watching, uh,
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which will be really fun. We're running
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a ton of games at Gen Con. There's still
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open seats there. Uh,
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>> so that's that's the one that that is
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the most my personality. That's the one
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that I run pretty regularly and I keep
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making more stuff for. I'm still working
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on the final Z for one of my latest uh
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Kickstarters for that as well because
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I've gone from printing hardcover books
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overseas to printing Z because I got my
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own 16 and 1/2 foot digital printer that
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I have in my backyard and I have my own
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print shop and I'm doing it all myself
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because it feels like the the right way
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to go with the uh the attitude I have
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and the being being a total like forever
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DM and control freak.
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>> No, I get that. I get that. If John
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hears that you've got your own printer
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like that, um, he's gonna get jealous
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because he'll want one, too.
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>> Yeah.
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>> I don't know why he wants one, but he'll
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want one.
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>> I mean, being able to print whatever you
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want, whenever you want is pretty rad.
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>> Oh, man. Okay. So, you mentioned and I
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saw on the um the free RPG day thing,
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you mentioned things like like uh Raptor
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Ruckus.
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>> Yes. So, so, well, first off, you you
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kind of gave us an idea of what Vast
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Grim is about. Um, what's Raptor Ruckus
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about?
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>> So, that's a Jurassic Park inspired
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Morborg hack. So, almost all of the RPG
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stuff that I publish is going to be Borg
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related because Bastram was the first
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full hack of Morborg. If anybody doesn't
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know what that is, it's a rules like
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D20based system that's usually pretty
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lethal. But my friend Zach uh headed up
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the Raptor Ruckus project. He b brought
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in an amazing crew of people to work on
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it. He asked me to do some of the art
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inside of it. And then because he's uh
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the the marketing manager over at
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Limathron, the folks that make Pirate
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Board, he needed somebody that could get
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it into distribution, represented at
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conventions because he doesn't have the
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time or capacity for that. So he asked
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me uh under my creature curation company
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to be the publisher of it.
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>> Oh, that's very cool. Yeah. So, you went
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from making sculptures to making games.
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That's
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>> Yes.
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>> I guess that wasn't much of a a leap.
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>> I mean, and I was always uh homebrewing
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all of my own stuff since like fourth
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grade. And I had a I was a graphic
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designer for years and years and years.
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And I I'm still a graphic designer. I
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currently uh work at Valor Marketing as
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a graphic designer when I'm not doing
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when I'm not making my own games. So,
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you know, having that made it very easy
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to lend myself to package design and
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page layout and making everything
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pretty. Very cool. Very cool. And your
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stuff for the most part has a very um
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it's it's a very I want to say like sort
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of an 80s punk vibe to it.
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>> Yes.
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>> In my opinion.
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>> Yes. And that's all very intentional.
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I'm trying to make all the things that I
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would have gravitated towards when I was
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13.
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>> Make the things that I want, right? And
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then hope that I will find the people
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that like have similar interests to me.
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>> And how's that been? How's that been
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working out for you?
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>> Good. Good. Because the people that like
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it are people that I want to hang out
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with. And I mean, we all just want to
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sit around a table and play games
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together. So, like making friends uh is
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super easy when you when you have
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similar interests.
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>> Cool. So, I've got some friends who are
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very into pirate borg.
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>> Yes.
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>> Um,
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so your stuff should be right up their
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alley, right?
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>> Absolutely. I mean, there's a lot of
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there's space pirates in my game, so
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just think of that and then just make it
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weirder and grosser.
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>> Space pirates. That's very cool. I like
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that.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, wow. Um, and you said, and like you
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said, it's all Borg
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compatible, which sort of seems weird to
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me because I'm like, wait, weren't the
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Borg the bad guys in that that one TV
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show?
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>> Well, in my game, everybody's pretty
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miserable and horrible and just trying
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to survive the day or maybe find a way
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out of the universe before it inevitably
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collapses. So, I mean, most people are
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pretty crappy. Huh. Well, I'm not gonna
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make any comments about that, but you
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know.
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Ah, very cool. So, wow. We've talked
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about a lot of your different products.
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Um, h do you have anything kind of cool
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and new in the works? Maybe
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>> in the works. Like, we're recording this
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on a Friday on Tuesday, July the 14th.
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The same guy, Zach, that I mentioned
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that headed up Raptor Ruck is he's uh
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doing heading up a project, a thing on
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Kickstarter called Side Quest, which is
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primarily small things that can all fit
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RPG related things that can fit in
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something that can be post like use a
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stamp on to be postmarked. Um, I've got
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an envelope and inside of it are three
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pirateborg adventures where I'm printing
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them where they're kind of like a table
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tent where on one side it's got an
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illustration that the players see, the
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back side has like the lore and setup
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for the adventure and then you flip it
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inside out and the other side has the
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map and then all the room contents and
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all the monster stuff that you need to
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run the adventure. And so I have three
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interconnected adventures that are super
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easy. They go in an envelope. They get
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postmarked and it's going to just be
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like a two-eek campaign that uh that I
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will be printing myself because I
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printed those on my printer and it's
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going to be super fast and easy to
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fulfill. So that's uh my project is
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called Postmarked Peril, but the overall
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bigger picture concept is called Side
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Quest. So you may see some of that on
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Kickstarter over the next couple of
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weeks.
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>> Very cool. I'm totally going to look out
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for that because that sounds awesome.
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That looks awesome. Um
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>> Thank you. as as somebody who knows a
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bunch of GMs, I could see how that's
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going to really appeal to them with the
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with the table tent format.
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>> Thank you. I thought that was a a
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different way to handle something that
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would fit in an envelope versus doing
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like a trifold or some something like
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that.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Very very cool. I like that.
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So, are you guys going to be doing any
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more um squishies or pins and things
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like that?
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>> I I will have I'll I'll continue to do
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pins. I have a I'm part of the pin
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bazaar at Gen Con coming up which has
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the where you go around find the
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different things at the different
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booths. The uh the pin that I have for
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that is very uh 90s inspired color. It's
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a dinosaur head to tie into the raptor
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ruckus. Um I don't have any squishies or
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plushies on the current horizon in in
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the current pipeline. I'm moving
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primarily to doing most uh mostly paper
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product stuff. Uh RPGs, card games,
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things like that. But who knows what the
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future holds because, you know,
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sometimes you just have an idea and just
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want to stick to it and just pivot and
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go that way. But most everything is
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going to fit in the fit along the
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aesthetic of the Bass Frame line and the
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the Borg theme as that continues to kind
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of consume my booth and it makes it
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easier for people that when they come
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there, they see it and they they know
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they they have they know what to expect
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and what they can expect to get at the
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booth.
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>> Cool. Very very cool. So, I know I ran
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into you guys at Origins. Um, and you're
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going to be at Gin Con because you just
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mentioned that Jin Con is Whoa. very,
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very, very soon. Um, not to freak you
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out or anything, but Jin Con in a couple
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weeks.
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>> Oh, uh, I'm very well aware of something
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to do.
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>> Yes.
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>> So, um, in regard to that, so so where
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are you guys kind of based out of?
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>> I'm about an hour west of Atlanta. I'm
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in West Georgia. Oh,
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>> okay. That's not too far from I mean I
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say that Atlanta being what it is,
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that's not too far from where I am. I'm
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in um South Carolina.
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>> Oh yeah, that's not far at all. I mean
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I'm a little further just because I'm
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I'm I'm almost in Alabama as far as like
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geographically, but yeah. Yeah, that's
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South Carolina. It's not a far drive.
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>> Oh, very cool. Um which means that So I
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assume you're going to be driving to Gen
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Con? Yes, I pretty much try to drive to
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all of my shows. I have a giant Ram
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ProMaster 2500 van. So, that's like, if
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you know what a Sprinter van is, it's
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like that. Like, I'm short, so I can
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easily walk in in the van. It's got
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plenty of room for all the stuff. And it
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makes me feel more comfortable when I
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have packed it all myself and I know
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what I'm bringing. And then if I forget
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something, I have the wheels to be able
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to go and drive to wherever I need to to
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buy something to make it make whatever I
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need work.
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>> Yeah. Like if you're like, "Oh, I need
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some duct tape."
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>> Right.
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>> Just hop in and get some duct tape
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because you always need duct tape.
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>> That and zip ties.
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>> Zip ties. Oh, yeah. That's true.
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So, are you going to try to incorporate
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uh zip ties into any game mechanics in
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your in your games?
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>> I have not, but I have worked them into
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a lot of kit bashing things that I've
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built and then photographed and then put
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into layout. So,
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>> Okay. Well, that's that's a start. I'm
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just saying. mechanics about about
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mechanics. I'll see what I can do about
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that. I'm I'm always up for working
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weird things into mechanics. I don't
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have my watch on me right now, but I've
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I also have watches that I've made that
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are called timets.
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>> Uhu.
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>> I made a Vasim one and a raptor one.
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They're on their way to me now. I'm
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hoping they'll be here in time for Gen
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Con. But you look at the time and you
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look at the hour and inside the box on
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the left hand side, the hour has an
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adjective, whether it's AM or PM. Like
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you look and it says 4 o'clock and it
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says ferocious. And then on the right
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hand side, you look at the minute 1
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through 60, and that's the the monster
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or threat to be a random encounter when
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you just look at your the time on your
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watch.
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>> Oh, that's cool. I like that.
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>> It's It's so weird and dumb, but I love
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it.
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>> No, that's great. Oh, wow. Yeah,
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everybody's making all these these
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really intricate like machined dice and
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stuff now or rolling things,
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>> but to have like a let me let me Oh, I'm
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not checking the time. I'm um
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>> I'm checking the random encounter right
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now.
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>> Exactly.
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>> They're very They're very themed after
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watches from the 80s. And so it's again
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something that ties back to me being 13.
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>> I get it. I mean, nostalgia and all that
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stuff,
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>> right?
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>> I mean, not that I mean, for me, 13 is
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is actually
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um a hard concept to grasp, but you
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know,
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>> Yes. Yes. But nostalgia, like Yeah, that
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that's an easier one to get in record.
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>> Yeah. So, you're going to be running
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you're going to be running u what? Fast
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Grim at Gen Con for speaking of
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nostalgia for people who were were in um
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Stranger Things. Is that what you said?
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>> Uh one person that's in the Stranger
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Things animated series is a voice actor.
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>> Okay.
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>> Uh
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>> okay.
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>> And a bunch of a bunch of other voice
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actors as well.
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>> Wow.
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>> Yes.
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>> You're not intimidated by that, are you?
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>> Um not right now because I can't think
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that far ahead. Maybe maybe on uh Friday
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morning when uh when it when it's time
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to go and go into the room, I'll
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probably be a little bit nervous then.
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But I'm sure, you know, if they're there
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to play and play make believe and I'm
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there to play make believe, we're all
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going to have a good time.
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>> So, I know it's very short notice, but I
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know me and a couple couple friends like
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me are going to be at uh Gen Con. If I
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had thought about it, I would have said,
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"Hey, you should run a game for us."
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>> I I would love to run a game for you. Um
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Gen Con may it may need to be a
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different con than that. That one's the
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hardest one to add things into because
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there's always so much going on all the
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time.
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>> Yeah. All right. We'll just
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>> Will you be at other cons in the in the
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not too distant future?
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>> Possibly.
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I'm I'm not sure. But that being said,
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what cons are you going to be at?
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>> Oh my goodness. Uh a lot. So, uh, I know
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that after that, after Gen Con, the next
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one after that, I'll be at Questcon in
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Orlando. Um,
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>> there's a potential that I'm going to be
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at a few fan expos. I'm waiting for
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confirmation and finalization on that.
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Could be Toronto, Boston,
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maybe Edmonton as well. Um, but th those
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are still those are not finalized. Um,
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let's see. Uh, packs unplugged. Uh there
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is a convention in uh um in Louisville
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that is uh I think it's conjunction con
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and may maybe mythicon in uh in uh in
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Charlotte.
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>> I'm gonna be at Mythic Con.
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>> I was there last year. I had a great
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time. It was fantastic.
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>> Yeah, I'm totally going to be at
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Mythicon. I I don't know if my buddies
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will be at Mythicon, but I'll be at
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Mythic Con.
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>> Awesome.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yes. A lot of the the the rest of the
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year is going to be very busy.
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>> Wow. Sounds like it.
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My my schedule just freed up recently,
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so I'm actually going to be showing up
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at a lot more cons. Not necessarily this
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year, but but definitely next year.
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>> Awesome.
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>> Wow. Um, you know, getting getting the
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brand out there as it were,
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>> naturally. Yep. And and so people go
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like, "Wow, I'm gonna have to kick these
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these famous people out of my game so I
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can get that guy in my game.
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You know that any of these people who
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used to be in The Hobbit or something
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like that." Yeah.
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>> Awesome.
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>> You Lord of the Rings people, get out of
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here,
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>> right?
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>> We need We need this this weird orange
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fuzzy guy who's probably just gonna like
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throw a dice around and maybe eat the
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character sheet. I don't know.
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>> Character sheets can be delicious. They
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can be. So, I know you print stuff. Have
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you thought about printing a character
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sheet on like a giant fruit rollup
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sheet?
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>> I have not. But that sounds tasty.
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>> I'm just throwing that out there.
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>> Yeah. Yeah, I like that.
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>> You could say you can say toast gave me
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this idea.
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>> Okay. Okay. Noted. Um, hang on. Let me
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write that down because if I don't write
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it down, I will forget.
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What about on a piece of toast?
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>> What? That I mean that could work, too.
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It's like, oh, you took some damage. Uh,
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chew off the corner of your character
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character bread.
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So, anyways, so,
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so Brian, um, again, we've been talking
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with Brian Cullen from, um, Creature
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Curations.
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Where can our viewers go to find you
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guys? Find you online.
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>> The best place to go probably to go to
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the website creaturecuration.com.
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Uh, okay.
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>> Got the link to the Discord there. The
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place I'm most active and actually
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interact with folks is in the grimlplace
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discord which is in the right hand
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dropown under about us. Um, yeah, I'm
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not really great at being on social
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media. I mainly just post stuff about
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things that are coming up and don't
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really interact as well as I should in
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the other places. So, that's probably
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the best place.
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>> Okay, I totally get that, too. I have a
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bunch of social media stuff for me, but
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I I tend to not post anything. I
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probably should. People
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>> Yeah, it's hard to make time for
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everything.
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>> Right. Right. I mean, I've got to like,
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you know, go get my hair done and
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>> Right. Me, too.
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>> stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah.
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Ah, so wow. So, um, so what was the name
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of that Kickstarter again? So our folks,
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so our watchers can go out and
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>> Oh, check it out. That's coming out
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soon. Very soon.
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>> That's Postmarked Peril. Um,
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>> Postmarked Peril.
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>> Oh, also one thing I totally forgot.
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right now on um bundle of holding the
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bassrim stuff that I talked about
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for9.95 you can get a ton of vascrim
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PDFs that like 70 $70 value for $9.95
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and that's on for another like
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>> as of today like another 20-ish days so
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um go and get that get a whole bunch of
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stuff and then there's even more free
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adventure PDFs on my website and there's
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a free online character generator so you
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can play all sorts of Asim for on the
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cheap
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>> oh very very cool I'll make Sure. I'll
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make sure that uh John puts that link in
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our show notes and stuff, too.
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>> Awesome.
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>> Very cool. Well, wow. Wow. It's been
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it's been awesome talking with you.
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>> Thank you so much for having me.
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>> Yeah. Um I'm gonna run into you at Gen
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Con and I'll I'll try to get some some
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pics with us going like
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>> Sounds look forward to
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>> I've I've got a I've got one of our pins
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that I can give to you. I don't remember
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if I gave you one at Origins.
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>> I don't think so. I know we're running
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kind of low, but we got a bunch of them
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in, so I'll definitely hook you up.
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>> Awesome. Maybe we can trade.
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>> That sounds great. And I know I'm going
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to be running into you at Mythicon, so
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that's kind of cool.
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>> Yeah, totally.
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>> Very, very cool. All right, so again,
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where can again, I've been talking with
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Brian Colin from U Cer Curations. Go
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check out Vast Grim. Go check out uh
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Raptor Ruckus. Go check out Neon
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Bastards,
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>> all the things.
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>> Um, check out all the things. And where
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again can they find you again, Brian?
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>> Creature curation.com.
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>> Ah, see, we say it over and over again
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because
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>> it'll stick. It'll get in your brain
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like a brain worm. Like a neurok.
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>> Yeah. Oh. Oh. Oh my gosh. Ah. All right.
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All right. Well, you have a good day.
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Have fun running games tonight. All
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right.
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>> Bye.
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>> That's the end of the cast show. If you
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like it, you know what to do. Hit the
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like and let's go to
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check out on the blue sky.
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Yeah. On the first part, too.
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Yeah.
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Rocking out with you. Yeah.
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What the
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I guess that's it now.
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Donald,
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I admit that I'm impressed since I'm
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someone legit to come and sit and talk
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some stuff.
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Hey there, Swarmcast guys. Oh, look. I
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got a buddy here. I'm a squishy aba.
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Anyways,
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put that over there. So,
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hey there, Swarmcast listeners.
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I've got um that squishy eyeball may
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have given it away, but I've got a guest
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on today from Creature Curations. I've
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got Brian Coen. How's it going, Brian?
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>> Hey, thanks for having me. It's great to
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be here. Today is a fantastic day. I get
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to play games tonight, so that's going
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to be a good day.
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>> Oh, that's very cool. I might try to
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trick some I mean, I might try to uh
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play some games tonight, too. We'll see.
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>> Awesome.
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>> But, um, I've got a bunch of stuff here
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in the background, which may or may not
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come out on the thing, but it's all from
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you guys.
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>> Yes.
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>> And in fact, just recently, free RPG
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day, I picked up this.
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>> Oh, right. Thanks for grabbing that. I'm
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glad you were able to snag one. Yeah, it
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was pretty cool. I I think I I licked
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most of the pages.
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>> I mean, they taste great, don't they?
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>> Oh, yeah.
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>> It's crazy because the the the Vas Grim
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pages taste very different than the
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Raptor Ruckus pages, which taste very
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different than the Neon Bastard pages.
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We wanted to try and, you know, have a
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variety of flavors in there.
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>> Okay. I did kind of notice that the
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Raptor ones were a bit more meteor.
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>> Yes. And the other ones kind of had like
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a kind of sour patch kind of taste. I
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don't know. It's weird.
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>> Whatever neon tastes like sour.
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>> So, ah, you guys have been around for a
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bit and you've done all sorts of stuff.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um, wow. Where to begin on this? So, so
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tell us about some of your your stuff
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that you made. Maybe if you want to
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start with some of the
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>> Yeah. the older stuff or the newer
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stuff. Um, let's briefly talk about some
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of the older stuff, but we'll definitely
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focus on the newer stuff.
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>> Sure. I started in the RPG industry in
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2016 at Gen Con in the art show, and I
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made sculptures and then I started
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making like enamel pins, uh, which I
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still make to this day just because one
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of a kind sculptures were hard for
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people to afford. And then the first RPG
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thing that I published was cardography,
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which were like dungeon crawls in a deck
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that I co-published with Norse Foundry.
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And then my kids were young and into
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blind box squishies and plushies. So I
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made uh bl weird blind box creatures
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based off of RPG stuff because uh other
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companies hadn't done that yet. And then
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as I I did a 5e setting and bestiary and
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a thing right before the pandemic. And
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then post during the pandemic and uh
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post pandemic I got into more rules
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light RPGs and I started making Vascrim
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with my friend Ross and then have just
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done a ton of books with that. A card
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game with my friend Duncan set in the
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same universe called Plunder Lust. A
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skirmish game set in the same universe
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called Squirmish. And then this year
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I've started taking on publishing
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Friends works including Raptor Ruckus,
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Neon Bastards, Winds of Hell, and I've
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also recently started doing some pirate
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board thirdparty stuff just because I
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run a pirate board game for my kids and
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some friends and uh figure I might as
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well publish the things I'm already
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making for that game, too. So, because
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you know, why not just keep making
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stuff?
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>> Very, very cool. And your all your
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stuff. Um, I think I probably discovered
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you guys through all the squishies and
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stuff because
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>> I was getting a lot of the the eyeball
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monsters and the the jelly cubes. And as
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you can see here, we have one of the the
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mimic boxes. I think I got that from
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here in 20 24 maybe. I don't remember.
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>> Sounds about right because that was part
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of my that was part of series two of the
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RPG squeeze when I did a Kickstarter for
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that. Yeah. And it came with a lot of
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cool stuff in it. I've got these little
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acrylic minis. I've got um some biary
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cards that you guys did.
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>> Oh, awesome. Yeah.
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>> And some pins and some some patches that
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I need to get ironed onto my jacket
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whenever I find wherever I put my
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jacket. I'm still unpacking stuff from
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Origins where I briefly ran into you
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guys.
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>> Yes. Yes. That was a good time.
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>> Yeah. So what is you mentioned fast grim
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and that was all over your booth but
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what are so what's what's would you say
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is your your big thing and some of your
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cool new stuff that you got?
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>> So Vascrim is my big main game. That's
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like my bem movie splatterpunk sci-fi
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horror RPG. Uh, I've done multiple
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books, adventure books, and like
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upcoming at Gen Con, I'll be running
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that for the first time for an audience
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with uh cast members of like the Arcane
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animated series and the Stranger Things
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1985 series. So, that's like a giant win
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for me. Um, getting to run the game for
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and have other people watching, uh,
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which will be really fun. We're running
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a ton of games at Gen Con. There's still
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open seats there. Uh,
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>> so that's that's the one that that is
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the most my personality. That's the one
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that I run pretty regularly and I keep
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making more stuff for. I'm still working
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on the final Z for one of my latest uh
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Kickstarters for that as well because
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I've gone from printing hardcover books
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overseas to printing Z because I got my
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own 16 and 1/2 foot digital printer that
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I have in my backyard and I have my own
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print shop and I'm doing it all myself
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because it feels like the the right way
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to go with the uh the attitude I have
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and the being being a total like forever
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DM and control freak.
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>> No, I get that. I get that. If John
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hears that you've got your own printer
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like that, um, he's gonna get jealous
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because he'll want one, too.
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>> Yeah.
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>> I don't know why he wants one, but he'll
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want one.
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>> I mean, being able to print whatever you
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want, whenever you want is pretty rad.
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>> Oh, man. Okay. So, you mentioned and I
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saw on the um the free RPG day thing,
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you mentioned things like like uh Raptor
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Ruckus.
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>> Yes. So, so, well, first off, you you
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kind of gave us an idea of what Vast
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Grim is about. Um, what's Raptor Ruckus
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about?
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>> So, that's a Jurassic Park inspired
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Morborg hack. So, almost all of the RPG
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stuff that I publish is going to be Borg
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related because Bastram was the first
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full hack of Morborg. If anybody doesn't
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know what that is, it's a rules like
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D20based system that's usually pretty
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lethal. But my friend Zach uh headed up
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the Raptor Ruckus project. He b brought
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in an amazing crew of people to work on
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it. He asked me to do some of the art
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inside of it. And then because he's uh
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the the marketing manager over at
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Limathron, the folks that make Pirate
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Board, he needed somebody that could get
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it into distribution, represented at
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conventions because he doesn't have the
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time or capacity for that. So he asked
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me uh under my creature curation company
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to be the publisher of it.
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>> Oh, that's very cool. Yeah. So, you went
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from making sculptures to making games.
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That's
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>> Yes.
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>> I guess that wasn't much of a a leap.
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>> I mean, and I was always uh homebrewing
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all of my own stuff since like fourth
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grade. And I had a I was a graphic
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designer for years and years and years.
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And I I'm still a graphic designer. I
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currently uh work at Valor Marketing as
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a graphic designer when I'm not doing
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when I'm not making my own games. So,
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you know, having that made it very easy
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to lend myself to package design and
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page layout and making everything
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pretty. Very cool. Very cool. And your
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stuff for the most part has a very um
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it's it's a very I want to say like sort
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of an 80s punk vibe to it.
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>> Yes.
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>> In my opinion.
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>> Yes. And that's all very intentional.
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I'm trying to make all the things that I
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would have gravitated towards when I was
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13.
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>> Make the things that I want, right? And
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then hope that I will find the people
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that like have similar interests to me.
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>> And how's that been? How's that been
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working out for you?
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>> Good. Good. Because the people that like
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it are people that I want to hang out
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with. And I mean, we all just want to
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sit around a table and play games
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together. So, like making friends uh is
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super easy when you when you have
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similar interests.
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>> Cool. So, I've got some friends who are
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very into pirate borg.
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>> Yes.
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>> Um,
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so your stuff should be right up their
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alley, right?
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>> Absolutely. I mean, there's a lot of
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there's space pirates in my game, so
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just think of that and then just make it
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weirder and grosser.
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>> Space pirates. That's very cool. I like
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that.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, wow. Um, and you said, and like you
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said, it's all Borg
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compatible, which sort of seems weird to
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me because I'm like, wait, weren't the
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Borg the bad guys in that that one TV
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show?
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>> Well, in my game, everybody's pretty
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miserable and horrible and just trying
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to survive the day or maybe find a way
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out of the universe before it inevitably
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collapses. So, I mean, most people are
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pretty crappy. Huh. Well, I'm not gonna
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make any comments about that, but you
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know.
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Ah, very cool. So, wow. We've talked
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about a lot of your different products.
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Um, h do you have anything kind of cool
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and new in the works? Maybe
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>> in the works. Like, we're recording this
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on a Friday on Tuesday, July the 14th.
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The same guy, Zach, that I mentioned
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that headed up Raptor Ruck is he's uh
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doing heading up a project, a thing on
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Kickstarter called Side Quest, which is
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primarily small things that can all fit
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RPG related things that can fit in
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something that can be post like use a
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stamp on to be postmarked. Um, I've got
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an envelope and inside of it are three
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pirateborg adventures where I'm printing
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them where they're kind of like a table
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tent where on one side it's got an
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illustration that the players see, the
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back side has like the lore and setup
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for the adventure and then you flip it
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inside out and the other side has the
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map and then all the room contents and
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all the monster stuff that you need to
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run the adventure. And so I have three
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interconnected adventures that are super
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easy. They go in an envelope. They get
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postmarked and it's going to just be
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like a two-eek campaign that uh that I
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will be printing myself because I
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printed those on my printer and it's
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going to be super fast and easy to
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fulfill. So that's uh my project is
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called Postmarked Peril, but the overall
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bigger picture concept is called Side
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Quest. So you may see some of that on
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Kickstarter over the next couple of
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weeks.
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>> Very cool. I'm totally going to look out
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for that because that sounds awesome.
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That looks awesome. Um
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>> Thank you. as as somebody who knows a
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bunch of GMs, I could see how that's
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going to really appeal to them with the
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with the table tent format.
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>> Thank you. I thought that was a a
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different way to handle something that
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would fit in an envelope versus doing
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like a trifold or some something like
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that.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Very very cool. I like that.
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So, are you guys going to be doing any
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more um squishies or pins and things
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like that?
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>> I I will have I'll I'll continue to do
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pins. I have a I'm part of the pin
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bazaar at Gen Con coming up which has
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the where you go around find the
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different things at the different
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booths. The uh the pin that I have for
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that is very uh 90s inspired color. It's
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a dinosaur head to tie into the raptor
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ruckus. Um I don't have any squishies or
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plushies on the current horizon in in
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the current pipeline. I'm moving
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primarily to doing most uh mostly paper
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product stuff. Uh RPGs, card games,
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things like that. But who knows what the
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future holds because, you know,
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sometimes you just have an idea and just
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want to stick to it and just pivot and
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go that way. But most everything is
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going to fit in the fit along the
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aesthetic of the Bass Frame line and the
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the Borg theme as that continues to kind
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of consume my booth and it makes it
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easier for people that when they come
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there, they see it and they they know
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they they have they know what to expect
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and what they can expect to get at the
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booth.
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>> Cool. Very very cool. So, I know I ran
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into you guys at Origins. Um, and you're
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going to be at Gin Con because you just
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mentioned that Jin Con is Whoa. very,
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very, very soon. Um, not to freak you
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out or anything, but Jin Con in a couple
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weeks.
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>> Oh, uh, I'm very well aware of something
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to do.
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>> Yes.
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>> So, um, in regard to that, so so where
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are you guys kind of based out of?
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>> I'm about an hour west of Atlanta. I'm
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in West Georgia. Oh,
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>> okay. That's not too far from I mean I
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say that Atlanta being what it is,
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that's not too far from where I am. I'm
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in um South Carolina.
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>> Oh yeah, that's not far at all. I mean
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I'm a little further just because I'm
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I'm I'm almost in Alabama as far as like
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geographically, but yeah. Yeah, that's
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South Carolina. It's not a far drive.
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>> Oh, very cool. Um which means that So I
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assume you're going to be driving to Gen
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Con? Yes, I pretty much try to drive to
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all of my shows. I have a giant Ram
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ProMaster 2500 van. So, that's like, if
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you know what a Sprinter van is, it's
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like that. Like, I'm short, so I can
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easily walk in in the van. It's got
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plenty of room for all the stuff. And it
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makes me feel more comfortable when I
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have packed it all myself and I know
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what I'm bringing. And then if I forget
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something, I have the wheels to be able
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to go and drive to wherever I need to to
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buy something to make it make whatever I
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need work.
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>> Yeah. Like if you're like, "Oh, I need
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some duct tape."
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>> Right.
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>> Just hop in and get some duct tape
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because you always need duct tape.
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>> That and zip ties.
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>> Zip ties. Oh, yeah. That's true.
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So, are you going to try to incorporate
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uh zip ties into any game mechanics in
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your in your games?
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>> I have not, but I have worked them into
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a lot of kit bashing things that I've
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built and then photographed and then put
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into layout. So,
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>> Okay. Well, that's that's a start. I'm
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just saying. mechanics about about
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mechanics. I'll see what I can do about
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that. I'm I'm always up for working
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weird things into mechanics. I don't
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have my watch on me right now, but I've
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I also have watches that I've made that
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are called timets.
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>> Uhu.
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>> I made a Vasim one and a raptor one.
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They're on their way to me now. I'm
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hoping they'll be here in time for Gen
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Con. But you look at the time and you
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look at the hour and inside the box on
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the left hand side, the hour has an
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adjective, whether it's AM or PM. Like
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you look and it says 4 o'clock and it
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says ferocious. And then on the right
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hand side, you look at the minute 1
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through 60, and that's the the monster
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or threat to be a random encounter when
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you just look at your the time on your
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watch.
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>> Oh, that's cool. I like that.
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>> It's It's so weird and dumb, but I love
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it.
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>> No, that's great. Oh, wow. Yeah,
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everybody's making all these these
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really intricate like machined dice and
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stuff now or rolling things,
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>> but to have like a let me let me Oh, I'm
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not checking the time. I'm um
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>> I'm checking the random encounter right
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now.
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>> Exactly.
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>> They're very They're very themed after
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watches from the 80s. And so it's again
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something that ties back to me being 13.
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>> I get it. I mean, nostalgia and all that
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stuff,
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>> right?
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>> I mean, not that I mean, for me, 13 is
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is actually
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um a hard concept to grasp, but you
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know,
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>> Yes. Yes. But nostalgia, like Yeah, that
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that's an easier one to get in record.
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>> Yeah. So, you're going to be running
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you're going to be running u what? Fast
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Grim at Gen Con for speaking of
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nostalgia for people who were were in um
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Stranger Things. Is that what you said?
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>> Uh one person that's in the Stranger
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Things animated series is a voice actor.
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>> Okay.
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>> Uh
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>> okay.
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>> And a bunch of a bunch of other voice
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actors as well.
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>> Wow.
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>> Yes.
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>> You're not intimidated by that, are you?
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>> Um not right now because I can't think
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that far ahead. Maybe maybe on uh Friday
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morning when uh when it when it's time
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to go and go into the room, I'll
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probably be a little bit nervous then.
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But I'm sure, you know, if they're there
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to play and play make believe and I'm
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there to play make believe, we're all
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going to have a good time.
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>> So, I know it's very short notice, but I
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know me and a couple couple friends like
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me are going to be at uh Gen Con. If I
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had thought about it, I would have said,
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"Hey, you should run a game for us."
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>> I I would love to run a game for you. Um
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Gen Con may it may need to be a
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different con than that. That one's the
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hardest one to add things into because
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there's always so much going on all the
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time.
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>> Yeah. All right. We'll just
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>> Will you be at other cons in the in the
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not too distant future?
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>> Possibly.
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I'm I'm not sure. But that being said,
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what cons are you going to be at?
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>> Oh my goodness. Uh a lot. So, uh, I know
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that after that, after Gen Con, the next
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one after that, I'll be at Questcon in
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Orlando. Um,
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>> there's a potential that I'm going to be
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at a few fan expos. I'm waiting for
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confirmation and finalization on that.
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Could be Toronto, Boston,
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maybe Edmonton as well. Um, but th those
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are still those are not finalized. Um,
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let's see. Uh, packs unplugged. Uh there
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is a convention in uh um in Louisville
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that is uh I think it's conjunction con
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and may maybe mythicon in uh in uh in
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Charlotte.
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>> I'm gonna be at Mythic Con.
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>> I was there last year. I had a great
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time. It was fantastic.
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>> Yeah, I'm totally going to be at
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Mythicon. I I don't know if my buddies
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will be at Mythicon, but I'll be at
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Mythic Con.
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>> Awesome.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yes. A lot of the the the rest of the
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year is going to be very busy.
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>> Wow. Sounds like it.
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My my schedule just freed up recently,
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so I'm actually going to be showing up
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at a lot more cons. Not necessarily this
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year, but but definitely next year.
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>> Awesome.
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>> Wow. Um, you know, getting getting the
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brand out there as it were,
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>> naturally. Yep. And and so people go
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like, "Wow, I'm gonna have to kick these
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these famous people out of my game so I
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can get that guy in my game.
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You know that any of these people who
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used to be in The Hobbit or something
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like that." Yeah.
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>> Awesome.
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>> You Lord of the Rings people, get out of
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here,
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>> right?
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>> We need We need this this weird orange
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fuzzy guy who's probably just gonna like
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throw a dice around and maybe eat the
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character sheet. I don't know.
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>> Character sheets can be delicious. They
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can be. So, I know you print stuff. Have
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you thought about printing a character
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sheet on like a giant fruit rollup
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sheet?
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>> I have not. But that sounds tasty.
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>> I'm just throwing that out there.
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>> Yeah. Yeah, I like that.
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>> You could say you can say toast gave me
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this idea.
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>> Okay. Okay. Noted. Um, hang on. Let me
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write that down because if I don't write
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it down, I will forget.
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What about on a piece of toast?
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>> What? That I mean that could work, too.
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It's like, oh, you took some damage. Uh,
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chew off the corner of your character
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character bread.
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So, anyways, so,
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so Brian, um, again, we've been talking
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with Brian Cullen from, um, Creature
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Curations.
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Where can our viewers go to find you
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guys? Find you online.
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>> The best place to go probably to go to
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the website creaturecuration.com.
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Uh, okay.
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>> Got the link to the Discord there. The
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place I'm most active and actually
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interact with folks is in the grimlplace
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discord which is in the right hand
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dropown under about us. Um, yeah, I'm
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not really great at being on social
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media. I mainly just post stuff about
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things that are coming up and don't
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really interact as well as I should in
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the other places. So, that's probably
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the best place.
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>> Okay, I totally get that, too. I have a
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bunch of social media stuff for me, but
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I I tend to not post anything. I
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probably should. People
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>> Yeah, it's hard to make time for
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everything.
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>> Right. Right. I mean, I've got to like,
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you know, go get my hair done and
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>> Right. Me, too.
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>> stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah.
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Ah, so wow. So, um, so what was the name
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of that Kickstarter again? So our folks,
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so our watchers can go out and
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>> Oh, check it out. That's coming out
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soon. Very soon.
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>> That's Postmarked Peril. Um,
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>> Postmarked Peril.
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>> Oh, also one thing I totally forgot.
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right now on um bundle of holding the
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bassrim stuff that I talked about
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for9.95 you can get a ton of vascrim
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PDFs that like 70 $70 value for $9.95
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and that's on for another like
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>> as of today like another 20-ish days so
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um go and get that get a whole bunch of
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stuff and then there's even more free
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adventure PDFs on my website and there's
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a free online character generator so you
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can play all sorts of Asim for on the
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cheap
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>> oh very very cool I'll make Sure. I'll
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make sure that uh John puts that link in
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our show notes and stuff, too.
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>> Awesome.
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>> Very cool. Well, wow. Wow. It's been
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it's been awesome talking with you.
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>> Thank you so much for having me.
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>> Yeah. Um I'm gonna run into you at Gen
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Con and I'll I'll try to get some some
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pics with us going like
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>> Sounds look forward to
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>> I've I've got a I've got one of our pins
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that I can give to you. I don't remember
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if I gave you one at Origins.
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>> I don't think so. I know we're running
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kind of low, but we got a bunch of them
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in, so I'll definitely hook you up.
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>> Awesome. Maybe we can trade.
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>> That sounds great. And I know I'm going
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to be running into you at Mythicon, so
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that's kind of cool.
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>> Yeah, totally.
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>> Very, very cool. All right, so again,
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where can again, I've been talking with
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Brian Colin from U Cer Curations. Go
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check out Vast Grim. Go check out uh
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Raptor Ruckus. Go check out Neon
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Bastards,
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>> all the things.
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>> Um, check out all the things. And where
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again can they find you again, Brian?
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>> Creature curation.com.
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>> Ah, see, we say it over and over again
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because
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>> it'll stick. It'll get in your brain
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like a brain worm. Like a neurok.
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>> Yeah. Oh. Oh. Oh my gosh. Ah. All right.
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All right. Well, you have a good day.
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Have fun running games tonight. All
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right.
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>> Bye.
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>> That's the end of the cast show. If you
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like it, you know what to do. Hit the
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like and let's go to
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check out on the blue sky.
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Yeah. On the first part, too.
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Yeah.
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Rocking out with you. Yeah.
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What the
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I guess that's it now.
