Community Connection - March 24 2026 - Tina Cosby and Guests talk about Stress and how to Handle it

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Speaker 1: Forward.
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Speaker 2: It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby, brought to you by Child's Advocates, a champion for justice, opportunity and well being for children. On Praise AM thirteen ten ninety five point What FM.
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Speaker 3: And good afternoon, and welcome to Community Connection. I'm Tina Cosby. Today is Tuesday, March the twenty fourth three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten is the number to the show. And on the show today, we're going to talk about systems overload, Eric and so many, so many worlds. Yeah, overload. Yeah, seems like more and more of us are carrying around more than we even thought we were. You know, just just turning on the TV, the radio, if you listen to the radio, picking up your phone. You know, however you consume your news and information, it's a lot of it's very stressful and so coming up in our second hour, our good friend doctor Denise Hayes is going to tell us she's going to share the antidote.
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Speaker 4: Oh, the antidote, the antidot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, bringing a couple of folks with her as well, Not just a couple, She's bringing some folks with her, all right, So we'll be able to talk about that. But that's that's coming up in our second hour. Also, I promised, and I'm going to stay on it. I'm going to stay on it. April sixth is the last day to register to vote in the state of Indiana. You can do it in person, you can do it online, or you can mail your ballot in. In terms of voting, but for your registration, you have to be registered by Monday, April the sixth, in order to vote in the Tuesday, May fifth primary. Today is a great day to go in and check on the status of your voter registration. You want to make sure everything. First of all, you got to make sure you're there.
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Speaker 4: That's true, You've got to be there.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think there's some component of that Save Act that Trump is just absolutely going nuts about. Oh really that Yeah, that says if you don't have proper identification, you get kicked off the voter rolls or something like that. Yeah, I pay I pay it to see. That's part of.
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Speaker 4: That stress, some of the stress, right, But no.
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Speaker 3: It is important and and I can get some of the finer points to it, but I think in the in the aggregate, it is straight and blatant voter uh, voter suppression. Voter suppression, That's exactly what it is. Because you know, do you have your original birth certificate?
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Speaker 4: No? I had. I had to get another one, actually had I needed it for something. I had to get another one. I got it, But I don't know many people have the original?
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Speaker 3: Well a lot of people don't. And as as one of our guests was saying, and it was absolutely correct, a lot of women if this thing passes, a lot of women are not going to be allowed to vote. I think it might have been James. I, Yeah, it was really Yeah, because if your birth certificate and you've gotten married since you were born.
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Speaker 4: Well, how many people have done that?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: And if it doesn't match, then you have to go back and get something. It's just it amounts to what a lot of people say are poll taxes, because any way you look at, you get to pay for a new identification. If that doesn't work, you got to pay for a passport. Those are only a couple of hundred bucks apiece.
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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 3: And the other thing about a passport is this government efficient setup that he and Elon Musk have put together.
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Speaker 7: They're woefully slow.
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Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, because originally it took time to get a passport or something like that, it's going to take more time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I mean you're right, A passport was never a rush thing. Never, but you could always pay a little extra money to get rush. You pay a little lecture and get it rush. But now I don't know, and a case in point, you listen to me, I'm trying to tell y'all, I'm the I was the victim of identity theft in terms of someone you know, they had a data breach. My SSN Social Security number got hacked, and somebody was trying to file taxes in my name, and so in order for the IRS to undo all of that and fully investigate it, even though I've sent in a paper reterm included with an affidavit, they told me to give them up to six hundred and twenty five days. I kid you not, I wrote it down.
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Speaker 4: That's more than two years.
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Speaker 3: That's more than two years. So how long if a bunch of Americans want to vote and they can't find their original birth certificate and just want to have it all in one, you know, the passport, how long do you think it's going to take for that, Oh, good question with a whole.
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Speaker 7: Lot of people.
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Speaker 3: So you know, this so called the Save Act is just a voter suppression plane and simple, and it didn't appear, it doesn't appear that it's going to pass. And I hope it, you know, I hope it stays that way because both houses are going on Eastern recess soon.
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Speaker 4: Well, they take more recesses.
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Speaker 7: Don't they then, I mean we recesses and raises.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they get that ours. Yeah, we don't recesses and raises. It's like all that time off and yes, it's almost like little work gets done.
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Speaker 3: Little work, Well, how much they think about it? How much legislating has the Trump Senate and House of Representatives gotten done since he's been in office? How much? How many laws have been made? What he's written? More executive orders than anything. I mean, there's been what over two hundred of those.
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Speaker 4: I hear the Jeopardy music playing in my head down.
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Speaker 3: It was it was a rhetorical they're not they're not they're not law. They're not doing what they're supposed to do. No, and on a number of fronts, including checking him, because they just simply will not. But long story short, as we were just talking you're you know, the stress level, it can get high just think just thinking about that stuff. So you had to find some some coping strategies. And I think that they are all going to be talking about that. But back to the voter registration because we got a little bit off track. But that is the antidote to a lot of the shenanigans as well, is for us to ignore all of the foolish tricks that they're trying to throw our way and vote. Register and vote. Don't just register to vote and say oh, okay, well I'll get around to no no no no, no no no. You got to vote. Everything is connected to your voting and your ability to vote. Indiana Voters dot i in dot gov Indiana Voters dot i in dot gov Indiana Voters dot i in dot gov is the website for the entire state of Indiana. There you can register to vote. You can check on your vot voting status, including if you're still there or you know, if they have anything wrong or incorrect, you get that corrected early. You can also get your information about voting by mail or traveling board and those forms are also online. But everything has to be done before before April sixth, before April six.
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Speaker 4: Which is a week from next Monday.
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Speaker 3: A week from next Monday. Next Monday is the thirty first, and after that it's you know, thirtieth.
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Speaker 4: Thirty first is Tuesday.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well, yes it is, so anyway, I know it's in the thirties, but you're right, And at that point next Monday, we're going to have less than a.
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Speaker 4: Week, less than a week to get registered.
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Speaker 3: So use that tying away now. You can also at the Indiana Voters dot I in dot gov you can also find your your voting locations, your polling centers, and things of that nature. So one of you know this little programming note. While Monday, April sixth is the last day to register to vote, Tuesday, April seventh will be the first day of our weekly setments with our voter education contributor, Julia Vaughan. Julia is also the executive director of Common Cause Indiana, and they are out there fighting the good fight each and every day, and especially each and every election day. So if you're a regular listener of the show, you know that Julia and her organization are committed to helping keep elections fair and keep voters empowered and educated, which is why Julia spends her time to come on here and talk to you, to give you the latest, to give you information, to inform you of your rights, to let you know what to look for. Something you know, looks like some shenanigans and all kinds of stuff. She had.
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Speaker 7: They have a they have a call in number. They've got it all.
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Speaker 3: So she'll be here to help us out.
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Speaker 4: That's good, very good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's gonna be with us weekly every every Tuesday through primary election day, which is on Tuesday, May the fifth. So again weekly seg once when Julia Vaughn start Tuesday April seventh. Monday April sixth is your last day to register to vote if you are already not registered. Now, I have to say, the majority of listeners to this show, including those who call in and what have you, they don't have a problem. I know they vote, I know they are involved in the process. I know they are. They're smart, intelligent, well informed. But what I'm asking of them is to spread the word. You know, a neighbor, a friend, a coworker, relative, anybody that you can think of, just even just one more person, one more person to register or to go to vote with you, don't, you know, don't vote alone, don't go by yourself. Take somebody with your carpool, go in the neighborhood and start rounding up folks. Say y'all, come on, hop in, everybody, hop in, hop in. They used to do that back in the day, you know, because there was power in numbers, there was safety in numbers, especially for African Americans. So it was always a for us black folks. It was always a day where we went and exercised our civic duty. But we did it smartly. Smartly, yeah, smartly. So so anyway, you don't, please, don't let the deadline creep up on you and then say, well, nobody told me or I didn't because there are I think we are running a number of public service announcements over all of our airwaves, all of our brands, all nine radio stations and the TV station in Spanish. We're saying we're letting people know about it every day. Here. We got to get folks mobilized and going, and the best way to do that is just think of one person, just one person, one person. I mean, you know, you think of one, then you're gonna think of two. And then when you think of two, you're gonna think of three and what have you.
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Speaker 4: So that neighbor who doesn't have a car, it doesn't drive, yeah, you can take them, take them with you.
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Speaker 3: Or somebody you know, a senior that wants to vote but you know can't, can't, but wants to go and vote on election day. Early vote, you know, go ahead and vote early. When when early voting opens? So when that right now, we're not gonna flood you all with all these information and days. Okay, let's do this first. Let's get registered to make sure all of our stuff is in order, and then we will move to the early voting information because I don't want it to be information overload. I want our focus, our primary focus for now is to meet that deadline on April sixth. To meet the deadline Monday April sixth, Monday April sixth, Monday April sixth. Don't let Monday April sixth, April the sixth creep up on you. So it's getting close, too close for comfort, it is. Have you have you checked yours?
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Speaker 7: Did I ask you that before?
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Speaker 8: Oh?
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Speaker 3: I'm good, God, yeah, yeah I checked mine a little while ago.
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Speaker 7: But you know what I'm gonna go in and check it again.
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Speaker 4: But it can't hurt. Yeah, that's true. Even if you even if you think you are maybe a good idea to just look again, just to make sure.
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Speaker 3: It takes roughly thirty seconds.
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Speaker 4: Thirty seconds to do it. And you say, I'm good if I'm not there, make adjustments.
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Speaker 3: And we here in Marion County. When we were talking, when I was talking about when you go to Indiana voters dot i n dot gov you can find your voting locations. I love the fact that Marion County has vote centers, you know, for our elections. That's just that's just, you know, that's a home run. I love it.
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Speaker 4: Very convenient, very easy.
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Speaker 3: But you know, even though we have vote centers and access to them, I continue to vote at my old polling place for a couple of reasons. Number one, it's it's open, of course, is open early. It's less than it's not even a fourth of a mile from my house.
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Speaker 7: I could walk.
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Speaker 3: In fact, when I was walking with my walking group, we walked over there, walked over Oh yeah yeah. We would go just cut through the neighborhood, then cut through another neighborhood to go across the street.
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Speaker 7: And there's a school, you're there, So there's no reason for me now.
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Speaker 3: But I always put it in mind, you know, put it in my mind that if I ever didn't get to or something happened that morning, where are the closest ones to wherever I'm going to be. So I always familiarize myself with the one the closest vote centers, and they are. But for me, it's just simple. But here's the other thing. I'm not trying to sound contradictory. When I do vote in person, that's what I do typically, and lately I've been voting early.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, voting early, that's fine.
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Speaker 3: Get it in there, get it in there, get it in there, get it out of the way. So that's that's been my habit lately. But I have done both, you know, maybe the primary, I'll do it in person. Sometimes I go. When I do go in person, I'm nosy. I want to see I know, I want to see what's going on. And I asked folks, how many you know, has it been busy this morning? How many? And they'll point you to that little counter on the machine that'll tell you how many folks have been in. So, yeah, sometimes I do that and sometimes even if I've already voted, I still go through. I you know, I may have voted early two or three weeks before and then just kind of casually walk through a couple of the places or even drive through. So I want to know, I want to know what's going on, what's going on. But I'm hoping, hoping, hoping that we shatter our primary voting records. I hope we do. Primaries are are abysmal in terms of voter.
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Speaker 4: Has it always been that way generally, at least for would you say, twenty years.
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Speaker 3: I just think historically that is not a big that that election is not a big one in terms of voter turnout. It never has been. I you know, I'm certainly no voting historian or authority, but I do know that they, I guess give a lot of grace to primaries in terms of voter turnout because it's generally low, especially in an off year.
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Speaker 4: Election, generally low.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, and that's not just here, that's nationwide, nationwide.
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Speaker 4: It is across the country.
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Speaker 3: And the irony is the primary is the most important, because if you don't make it out of the primary, you don't make it.
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Speaker 4: To me, that's true you don't. And I think sometimes people have a misconception with that.
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Speaker 3: Well, here in Indiana. Indiana is one of the states where you have to declare your party affiliation.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, and I'm I don't like it. I never like that. I'm always wondered, why do I have to tell you?
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Speaker 3: Why is it your business.
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Speaker 4: Exactly I'm going in the vote. I'll vote way I want to. You don't have to know.
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Speaker 7: And you can only vote that party.
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Speaker 4: That's true. That's something I always had trouble with that. You can only if I wanted to vote another way. Why I have to tell you how I'm voting.
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Speaker 3: You have to vote that party exact If you say I'm a rep Republican, you cannot vote for a Democrat. Right, say I'm a Democrat, you cannot vote for a Republican, and so on and so forth.
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Speaker 4: So that would be good to know why that ever came to be.
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Speaker 3: It's Indiana, Okay. I gave them. I gave them all the props in the world for the vote centers here in Marion County, here in Marion County. But I don't know why that is. I think I do think it's the state legislature. I'm almost positive that it is, but we'll find out. But there are other states that don't do it that way. There are some states in the country where you can register to vote and then vote on the same day, so it's all over the you know, all over the map in terms of rules for voter and voter registration things like that.
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Speaker 4: So register and vote the same.
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Speaker 3: Day, register and vote. Yes, you register and vote early voting. I couldn't encourage it enough, but there are just some purists that say, no, I have to I want to go on the day.
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Speaker 4: I can't day.
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Speaker 3: If you go on the day up, you better be taking somebody with Take somebody with you. We can get those numbers up three one seven, four eight zero thirteen ten. Three one seven, four eight, zero thirteen ten. Whatever's on your mind. Give us a call. Lines are open first hour. Uh three one seven, four eight, zero thirteen ten. Pierre, go ahead, how are you?
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Speaker 1: Oh? Good afternoon? Tina and Eric get out. Yeah, you know, Tina, I just it's one of the reasons why I decided, you know, I can set this one out this time, because it's a primary, it's a mid term primary election. You know, it's always uh, voter turnout and you know, I just talking to people and stuff like that. I think we have low voter turnout is because for the most part, people are generally satisfied with the way their life is going. I mean, you know, and I think that's one of the reasons why we don't get a lot of participation. You know, you got a lot of folks, young folks, everybody, they're going to work, they got fifty million things going on.
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Speaker 9: You know.
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Speaker 1: The only people that care about primary voting and stuff like that is like you said, people like us that you know that are engaged and called into the program and you know that are concerned about the things are going on in the community. But for the most part, most people, man, life is good. And you know, I don't do politics. You know, that's where that's where everybody. I don't get involved in all of that.
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Speaker 3: You know. Well, Pierre, I have to say, sitting this one out is what has gotten us to where we are right now, right well, hitting this one out is why we are at war. It is why we can't get out of the grocery store without some blood being drawn, you know, being spilt. It is why gas prices are beyond ridiculous, all of every this is why we are where we are today. I think I'll sit this one out. You know, I don't see any logic in that. I don't. I mean, that's certainly you're you're right, I just don't get it.
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Speaker 1: Both aren't hurting bad enough. But I'll tell you what if we if we got into a ground boar and they had to start taking people and have to start, uh, you know, doing stuff like that. Yeah, you know, uh, people would be Everybody in their mima would be voting because it did, you know, the government of facts. And I talked to one lady the other day. Well, I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that because you'll you'll know who I'm talking about. But I mean, just why people don't vote. I mean, things just.
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Speaker 8: There.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing really going on. Okay, gas prices are up a little bit, you know.
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Speaker 5: What a big deal.
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Speaker 1: I'll start complaining when it gets over five bucks. But you know, people just don't engaged. I mean something, it's just nothing urns.
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Speaker 3: I think people are feeling plenty. I think they're feeling plenty, and I'm hoping that the primary will show that because i think the more people are. I think people are more engaged than what you're giving them credit for, because it's just not this is not sustainable. This pace, this ridiculousness, all of it's not sustainable. Something's got to give.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you got more people running and stuff like that, and so maybe maybe we'll have more people come out. But you know, it's just something urs I mean to be in the DNA of every black person who puts on a pair of shoes that you should have to vote. I mean, it should just be second nature.
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Speaker 3: Why well, if it should be second nature, then why are you going to sit it out? You're saying to different then No.
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Speaker 1: I'm oh, why am I sitting out running?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 3: You said this is why I decided. Are you so you're talking? I thought you were talking about you were going to sit out the primary.
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Speaker 1: No, I was sitting out the sitting out running.
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Speaker 3: From Okay, I misunderstood you. I misunderstood you.
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Speaker 1: Oh oh, I'm sorry, thank you for it. Yeah, because a lot of people probably took it that way.
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Speaker 6: Oh.
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Speaker 1: No, Pierre votes. I've been voting in every election since I since I was eighteen, and I'm sixty now, So you know, Pierre is going to stay in the pics.
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Speaker 3: Good but good, Okay, you had me, had me concern. Yeah no, oh no, So what you were saying is this is why I'm going to sit out this election cycle as a candidate.
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Speaker 1: As a candidate.
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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, you didn't say that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm not gonna sit out. I never set out an election. I always vote because I know a lot of people across the world, you know, and in South Africa, they got people that stand in line for four or five hours just to cast a vote for a party, not necessarily a candidate, but for a party. The parties decide who's gonna be the candidates. I'm not sure how that system works, but you know, they got life snaked around and they don't and they really don't get much out of out of the elections that they they participated in. But a lot of folks don't get to vote. But I know what what the what was paid in order for me to get the right to vote. So so Pierre is never gonna never go vote. And you know, uh as as and and you know I'm gonna have to vote for Andre you know, hey, but you know, hey, I'm not gonna sit it out. I'm not gonna sit it out, but.
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Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad true.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I wish, I wish more young people quick would vote. But you know, and then you know, sometimes they get the point where you know, I'm starting to think, like Larry's I can't believe it.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, okay, okay, here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
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Speaker 5: If if if the.
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Speaker 1: Young black quote that don't vote, if they.
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Speaker 10: Don't want to make the decision, if they want to leave it up to the.
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Speaker 1: White men and other people, uh, maybe they should be making the decisions. If you're not gonna vote, If if if you're gonna let somebody else make the decision for you, then whether maybe you just should step back and and and let somebody determine how your life is gonna play out and what resources your community is gonna get. If you're not gonna participate in the process, you know, well maybe the white man should be in charge. That's something he would say, but I would I wouldn't say, but I'm just saying, if they're not state in the process, I mean, if you're gonna sit up and let other people make the decision for you.
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Speaker 8: I mean, well, come on now.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I got you. Hopefully we hopefully we don't want it to get to that. Yeah, we definitely don't want to get to that.
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Speaker 1: A million black people in Houston, Texas and only what some of them went out and voted. Jasmin could have won the election if just another few hundred thousand people decided to go out and vote. They didn't. Houston lost the election for it.
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Speaker 3: Well, come on, is there did her district cover she's a congressional I thought she was in Dallas.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but no. The point is the point is she was out of Dallas. But as the statewide rage uh for.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for congressional district, right, she would be representing a district. Would that district incompas would it have encompassed Houston as well?
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Speaker 11: Now?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what I'm saying is Tina for the for the senate race.
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Speaker 3: Oh for the Senate okayah for the What happened was yeah, because they only get two.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, he ran up all that, he got all of those other cities out. The both were him, but she she got you know, she had Dallas, but in Houston they just said the heck with it?
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Speaker 1: And a lot of them didn't go foot.
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Speaker 3: And if they would have came out and yeah, yeah, I remember watching the returns and even some of the analysts were a little shocked because they felt like she was underperforming in some areas where they just knew she would be strong. So yeah, I get your point there. I get your point there. Yeah, I don't know about us. Sometimes I get mad. It's just it's like, if you could have.
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Speaker 1: Had we could have had a black senator out of West twelve thousand more black people wanted went and voted.
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Speaker 3: We just don't realize the wealth that we have in our little hands or big or whatever, in our in our very hands, the wealth which is a vote. We just don't realize how that we haven't and sure don't know how to spend it. We you know, we just sit on it.
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Speaker 1: We're losing. We're not we're not gaining. We're losing well, and we're because we're not doing what we need to do to to to make it right, and and and and it's on the of our young people and and they're just not they're just not stepping up to the plate.
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Speaker 3: Well, if it's on the backs of the young people, then as the older as the older, what haven't we done?
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Speaker 7: What haven't we done?
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Speaker 3: So maybe we need to take inventory of our own houses and figure out, well, how can we get more of those younger than us engaged? Because somehow we as a group have let that slip through the cracks. Somehow, I, you know, I had logic would dictate that if somebody younger isn't doing what they're supposed to do, then what do the folks.
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Speaker 7: That are older not do?
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Speaker 3: Not saying that that's our fault, but I'm just saying there, you know, we've got if we want them, we got some skin in the game too. So there's some things that we probably have to look to and figure out how to get everybody more involved, especially our young people, because perhaps maybe we dropped the ball somewhere along the road, I don't know, somewhere along the way.
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Speaker 7: We we probably did not do what we.
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Speaker 3: Should have done or could have done. Now it's a good time to correct it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, gave them too much.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, we.
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Speaker 1: Gave them too much to help them too much?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like.
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Speaker 1: D will do it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well there's that. There's that. There's that too, So all right, Pierre, I appreciate it. We got we're up against a break, but I will. I do appreciate that, and I'm glad you're not sitting out the primary. Thank you, Thank you for your call. We still got calls out there, call lures out there waiting to jump in, and we will get.
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Speaker 7: To you right after this break.
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Speaker 3: Stay tuned.
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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby, brought to you by Child Advocates, a champion for justice, opportunity and well being for children on Praise Am thirteen ten ninety five point one FM.
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Speaker 3: And we're back with Community Connection. And boy does this ever underscore the need for our two o'clock segment about overload systems, overload, American stress, anxiety over the news coming out each and every day.
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Speaker 7: It's a lot.
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Speaker 4: Oh, it is.
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Speaker 11: It is.
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Speaker 7: So we have a caller that has some good news.
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Speaker 3: Samuel L. Jackson, go ahead, Yeah, good news. What is it?
00:29:03
Speaker 11: Tina, Tina, Eric Erica, James Jamis, you're listening? You never last you remember last week I told you about that that that that that.
00:29:13
Speaker 1: Check coming to me?
00:29:15
Speaker 8: Yes?
00:29:15
Speaker 4: What yes?
00:29:16
Speaker 11: Yeah? So what I done was well, actually bank called me and said clear right, So I called that's my bank. So I called a Bank of America. I said, wait a minute, I got a check and then clear why They said, twenty one years ago I bought stocked into the company. Well, back then, Bank of America was here in America, I mean here in Indianapolis.
00:29:40
Speaker 5: But they closed, okay.
00:29:43
Speaker 11: And when they closed the branch here in Indianapolis. Okay, Well, I thought I just lost lost my investment. Well, about three months ago I applied for one of the Bank of America credit card, right, and they gave it.
00:29:58
Speaker 1: To me, and.
00:30:02
Speaker 11: Okay, and the lady told me, she said, this is how we found your address. You had a never prime for the credit card.
00:30:13
Speaker 5: Yes, that's when they found my address.
00:30:15
Speaker 3: Yes, uh huh any unclaimed money side.
00:30:21
Speaker 4: Wow?
00:30:23
Speaker 11: And she said this is your dividends from over twenty one years ago. Oh said, oh my gosh.
00:30:31
Speaker 5: See where so it's.
00:30:32
Speaker 3: Real that well, congratulations definitely.
00:30:39
Speaker 7: Who talk about a windfall?
00:30:42
Speaker 5: That's true?
00:30:44
Speaker 7: He said, it's real.
00:30:45
Speaker 11: It's real.
00:30:46
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
00:30:47
Speaker 11: When the bank called me, my bank call and say, okay, it's clear. And then I called Bankic, why are you giving me this?
00:30:55
Speaker 1: And they told me this story.
00:30:56
Speaker 11: I said, and I mean number I invest into the stock about stock over twenty one years ago if they closed, Yeah, they told all the Bank of American Banking. They just came back about a year ago, about three months ago again and I fined for the credit card. They gave it to me and they said, that's how we got your destination.
00:31:14
Speaker 4: Wow. Wow, that's what the.
00:31:16
Speaker 5: Good news right there. That's good news.
00:31:18
Speaker 3: Fos, that's great news. Talking about the report.
00:31:24
Speaker 4: That hell celebrating.
00:31:28
Speaker 11: But you know what, it's why I always say to an investor, okay, invest forget about it. M hm yeah, because sooner or later it's going to payoff. One year is a long time. But hey, when you get you get something like that, you're like, They're like, you invest yesterday and you became successful at the same day.
00:31:51
Speaker 4: Definitely is and you weren't expecting it at all. It's like that. It's even more No.
00:31:57
Speaker 7: We all should be so lucky it is to go to mailbox.
00:32:00
Speaker 4: And find a real check.
00:32:03
Speaker 3: I've seen one hundred and two hundred thousand dollars checks in there before and they haven't been real.
00:32:07
Speaker 1: They're not exactly right. Yeah, a lot of it.
00:32:10
Speaker 11: But I thought it was fake too, But I wasn't taking no time. I won't put a to day hold on it because I ain'ton't be paying nothing back exactly.
00:32:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it never Yeah, well, thank you that it never occurred to you that that was your money.
00:32:23
Speaker 11: No, we've got too many scams out there, there are.
00:32:30
Speaker 5: No no, but yes, it's real.
00:32:33
Speaker 6: It's real.
00:32:34
Speaker 11: I could not believe that.
00:32:36
Speaker 3: Congratulations, congratulations. I am so happy for you. All right, the follow up, all right, it's awesome, that's okay, all right, Wow, there you go.
00:32:50
Speaker 4: There you're investing paid off for Sam. He forgot about it, and he forgot about it, investing, forget just investing. Let it sit there and collect interest.
00:33:01
Speaker 3: And there they go and there it is. They found it, alrighty three one seven zero thirteen ten three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten. Let's go back to the phone lines. Jeff, how are.
00:33:13
Speaker 1: You hey, Jane? How you doing?
00:33:16
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, doing great? How you doing?
00:33:19
Speaker 10: I'm doing fast? At Uh? Congratulations Sam, Yeah, definitely. Anyway, Jim Pierre was talking about, uh, Peter would not being a body. Well, there's one person is worried about the elections, and that will be the orange pair of site.
00:33:41
Speaker 3: M h. Yeah, he's absolutely, Yes, that's what we were talking about earlier. Yeah, it's it's basically disguised voter registration with the polls, voter voter registration suppression, voter suppression, uh, with a finally disguised poll tax. Because if people have to pay money to get the identification that the government government requires, that's a poll tax. You know, they have to pay money to get a passport, if they have to pay money to get another or copy or their original brand, have they got to pay money to get all that stuff before they can cast a ballot.
00:34:21
Speaker 7: It's a poll tax, voter voter suppression.
00:34:25
Speaker 10: Voter suppression. If anything, your vote dignatter, you wouldn't go through all this trouble to keep frommoting. So just keep that in mind.
00:34:35
Speaker 1: And you know, I'll say it.
00:34:37
Speaker 10: Again, Well you're real brief. You know what brought the Roman Empire down. It wasn't the hunts, it wasn't the VisiC God. It was apathy and complacent and complet complacency. So we got time to complacent.
00:34:52
Speaker 3: No, not at all. And uh, you know, as we were saying at the top of the show, you know, April, can you checked your voter registration?
00:35:01
Speaker 1: Jeff not Yeah, but I'm.
00:35:04
Speaker 10: Going to check it out because I don't I don't. I don't trust these skunks. I don't trust I don't trust Mike Brown, and I don't trust that that Neil and Temutenant governor we got and I never don't trust that orange parasite.
00:35:17
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:35:18
Speaker 10: I don't trust none of these Republicans. I don't trust you that of them. I really don't. You know, Well, let me say this, there's a difference between maggots and Republicans. You got some normal Republicans, they're just somewhat normal. But these maggots uh uh, nope, nope, these maggots. No, we need to call pest control and get rid of them. That's what they are, maggots. I said it. I ain't taking nothing back because anytime you want to take away a woman's right to choose, anytime you want to send black people back to the nineteen forties, I got a problem with that, Tina Eric, I don't. I got a problem with fashionism, did you guys?
00:35:55
Speaker 5: Oh?
00:35:55
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, Well that goes.
00:35:58
Speaker 3: That goes without saying.
00:35:59
Speaker 10: Definitely, okay, Well you know what this President John Jersey to some guy.
00:36:03
Speaker 1: Dystopian Blade Rudders Society.
00:36:07
Speaker 10: He's just at the UH at the airports, and that already we need trouble. Now, we got just Neanders, uncle Mark Wayne Mullen, who's in charge.
00:36:16
Speaker 1: This guy he's m a a fighter.
00:36:19
Speaker 10: He took to me to punch hits to the head. Guys, he's punched drunk. And one of the reason I'm gonna say, I don't hear James getting mad at here? What want to reason Jasney Crockett lost because let's forget about this black brown coalition. Black Tinos voted for Tillarrica. I like tell Rico, but they also voted for you know who. Why because they couldn't vote for a black woman and we got black men. They got issue with black women. I'll take a qualified black woman over a serial rapist.
00:36:50
Speaker 5: Would you agree with that?
00:36:51
Speaker 4: Eric, Oh? Absolutely, most definitely.
00:36:53
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I mean, but you know, here's the thing I get the discis I don't know, it's just a vibe that I'm picking up, but I get the impression Trump's kind of on the run. I think he's kind of panicking. I really do think so. I think he's panicking because he's so obsessed with that Save act, because he knows that the Epstein thing. I think it all has to do with the Epstein thing, and and it isn't going the way he wanted it to go. And he sees the polls about how unpopular that is. He sees the information about how people are hurting at the gas pumps and in the grocery stores. He knows it's real. Uh. He's trying to get out of it very quickly, but now that he's in it.
00:37:38
Speaker 10: He can't. I in order to trudge your horble, MoMA, he said, well, you know what, I changed my mom, I'm not going to do it, Okay.
00:37:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So I don't think he has I don't think there's a plan at all. I think it's all knee jerk, which is how he You know, they say he's a day trader in terms of his leadership, but I really you think he's not. He's not too much focused on anything. He's still laser focused on that Epstein thing. That that's the way I feel about it. And he's losing control. He thinks everything. You know, people are just gonna take whatever he dishes out. And these folks they don't have nothing to lose. They fight with Stixon and Rocks.
00:38:17
Speaker 7: So they you know, they will hold you.
00:38:20
Speaker 3: Off with Stixon run. They're not afraid of you in the United States. And now the other thing he said, he tried to lie and said that they've been in really good negotiations and they may be bringing this thing to a close pretty sale.
00:38:34
Speaker 7: Iran said, nothing of the sort.
00:38:37
Speaker 3: And basically, let's go, buddy, you know, that's what they're saying, come on, come on, bring it, bring it. You know, we haven't been talking. So he's trying to. He knows that he's getting to be upside down with a lot of folks and a lot of things. And so that save act as part of it, because that has to do with voting and just basically keeping the election from happening. He's lost control of, you know, really the essential uh part of the war that did the essential narratives.
00:39:04
Speaker 7: He's just lost all control of. So I don't think.
00:39:08
Speaker 3: He's in the Project twenty twenty five book planning stages anymore. I think he's running.
00:39:13
Speaker 10: I believe Project twenty twenty five is self destructive. It's backfiring.
00:39:17
Speaker 7: Yeah, it should be.
00:39:18
Speaker 3: It should be.
00:39:19
Speaker 10: And now it's time about Project twenty twenty six. People registered to vote yes, right, now this weekend it's gonna be the No King's rally. I'm not gonna beat it because white people, especially white women, voting patrol because they got issue with other women, especially women of color. They do that, they did. And now now that it is now that that white woman up there in Minnesota got shot by an Ice agent, now they're saying, wow, we should have been listening to black people all alone. They do drag people out their car and shoe black people.
00:39:48
Speaker 3: Were right, yeah, yeah, right, Now you.
00:39:51
Speaker 10: Get a little taste of it. Yeah, well you thought about voting for Trump. It was gonna happen to the next guy. No, But when it showed them one your front door, oh man, we got a problem. Oh I think it's going to happen to me. You're Zach the Farmers.
00:40:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh it's a hot mess. Jeff.
00:40:08
Speaker 7: I appreciate your call, thank you.
00:40:10
Speaker 3: But yeah, there's a there's a lot that is there, and absolutely a lot that's there. But I don't see any singularly focused plan, but not that he ever has had one, but he's been more focused than lately and he's just all over the map.
00:40:28
Speaker 7: So there's that anyway.
00:40:30
Speaker 3: Three one seven, four eight zero thirteen ten, three one, seven, four eight zero thirteen ten is the number to the show. A couple of things. You know, we were talking about whatever's on your mind, and a couple of things that I was reading this morning that have nothing to do with anything really important, but you know, I thought it might be conversation worthy. But a recent survey of two thousand United States adults conducted by Talker Research on being half of k Tom Restaurants Supply revealed that Americans often mix and match items from different fast food chains to create their ideal meal, with a typical preferred plate including a Burger King, burger or Chick fil a chicken sand which, McDonald's fries and nuggets, and a soda or Dairy Queen milkshake.
00:41:20
Speaker 7: Oh yes, oh yes, yes, yes.
00:41:23
Speaker 4: How many calories?
00:41:24
Speaker 5: Oh?
00:41:24
Speaker 4: Never mind food?
00:41:27
Speaker 3: Who was our guy a pretty tony?
00:41:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's.
00:41:30
Speaker 3: Addicted to fast food, pretty tony. This is for you. Burger King was ranked the top hamburger chain nationally. Well, that's interesting.
00:41:40
Speaker 4: That is interesting.
00:41:42
Speaker 3: I would have thought McDonald's has been at the top of the hill for decades.
00:41:45
Speaker 4: They have been, but I think they've lost their position. They're no longer in that position. It's kind of they've dropped from there where they used to be and for various reasons. They said because of cost, that kind of thing. People have complained the prices of you know, they've and much too expensive. Yeah, they decided to eat it home.
00:42:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, or elsewhere. You can go to a restaurant and get a nice meal or one of those plated specials that they have where they give you three, you know, a entree aside and a drink for ten bucks. And you go to McDonald's and get a breakfast sandwich combo. It will cost you ten bucks if you get the steak, egg and cheese.
00:42:23
Speaker 4: It's been a long time since I've had McDonald's.
00:42:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, really long time.
00:42:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't know. Am I missing something?
00:42:31
Speaker 6: No?
00:42:31
Speaker 3: I do like their I like their smoothies in the morning, the smoothies, and that's usually what I swing through.
00:42:38
Speaker 4: That's what I would get if I'm there. But knock anything.
00:42:40
Speaker 7: Else, Yeah, I do too.
00:42:41
Speaker 3: But if you have a if you have a little one, they that's what they look at two as a treat because they like the toys.
00:42:47
Speaker 4: Oh, they like the toys. The toys are back.
00:42:50
Speaker 3: O, the toys are back and he heat though he's an eater. But I couldn't believe this because Burger King was ranked top hamber chain nationally wow, thirty five percent of respondents naming it their favorite, followed by Wendy's at Wendy's came in second. However, in the Western United States, In and Out was the top pick at forty five percent, surpassing both Burger King and Wendy's.
00:43:20
Speaker 7: I have never been to an in and Out.
00:43:23
Speaker 3: I've been out west and southwest of a lot and southwest, especially what a burger is?
00:43:29
Speaker 4: Uh whataburger?
00:43:30
Speaker 6: Oh?
00:43:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what a burger is? And people people running together like Waterburg, water Burg. But the name of the chain is called what a Burger? And they're just the supercized smash uh patties right, supercise supercize.
00:43:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're big, bigger and bigger than the arch that McDonald's came out with. That's their newest burger.
00:43:51
Speaker 5: Oh.
00:43:51
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's wider.
00:43:53
Speaker 4: Oh it's white.
00:43:54
Speaker 3: I think I can't really remember because like I said, but I will say Burger King. If I do get a burger at one of the places like that, it would be Burger Kings for the flavor because it's charb broiled, it's broiled. The difference, it makes a difference, a big difference in the taste. And I think the only other fast food place that does that is maybe Hearty's.
00:44:15
Speaker 4: Well you know who used to do that? Oh yeah, that's what you used to do. They don't do that anymore.
00:44:22
Speaker 3: It's called the brazier, Brazier burger yet brazier, and they had open flames, open flame, And now I think they just throw some burgers out. I don't know their their ice cream and stuff is still good.
00:44:35
Speaker 4: Maybe that's where they're focusing more on the ice cream.
00:44:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, more on the ice cream. So let's see among Okay, Chick fil A led the chicken sandwich Wars fifty respondents naming it their favorite, followed by Popeye is at twenty seven percent.
00:44:50
Speaker 7: Well that's a quick drive.
00:44:51
Speaker 3: It is a big drop big old drop off, because you know, Popeye's had traffic tied up for weeks and months with that that sandwich damage.
00:45:02
Speaker 4: There was a comparison between THEIRS and Chick fil A's. Yes, remember that. Yes, some people said, well THEIRS is better than Chick fil As.
00:45:09
Speaker 3: A lot of folks did. Now among gen Z and those in the Southwest, raising canes was cited as a preferred option. Now those are starting to pop up around the neighborhood. They are they are raising canes. I went one day just to sample one of their because that heard so much about it, and it was it was average. It was yeah, there was no, I don't really it was.
00:45:30
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's we did too.
00:45:32
Speaker 3: And it was like, oh you oh, you didn't like that.
00:45:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the same thing.
00:45:35
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, yeah, exactly, Yeah, it was okay. But McDonald's was the leading choice for chicken nuggets at forty five percent chicken nuggets followed by Chick fil A thirty seven and Windy's at thirty Among gen Z and those in the Southwest, again, canes was cited as a preferred option. McDonald's was also the clear favorite for fries, with fifty one percent of respondents choosing it, more than double the number for second place Wendy's. The survey highlighted regional on generational differences in fast food preferences, with notable variations in fry preference based on generations such as millennials and gen X preferring curly fries gen Z favoring waffle fries and baby boomers preferring standard cut fries.
00:46:20
Speaker 4: Never knew that.
00:46:21
Speaker 3: I didn't either. But if I do have a choice of fries, and I'm not a fry eater either, if they offer waffle cut fries, I do, because you know why, they don't taste as greasy.
00:46:32
Speaker 4: You know, that's a good point. You're right, they're not as greasy as it seems, or not as the regular fries or the curly fries.
00:46:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, not at all. And here's another one that caught my attention. How much would you pay? Do you like hot chocolate?
00:46:44
Speaker 4: I do?
00:46:45
Speaker 3: You do?
00:46:45
Speaker 4: I do?
00:46:46
Speaker 3: How much would you pay for a good cup of it? So the top of the line hot chocolate? How much would you face starbuck prices?
00:46:52
Speaker 4: No? No, what's so expensive?
00:46:55
Speaker 3: Well, then you're out of the loop in this one, because this one is one thousand dollars for hot chocolate? What Benjamin Steakhouse in Midtown, New York is offering a one thousand dollars three tiered hot coco cocktail called Versailles Valore, or if you live in Southern Indiana's Versaiales versales Valure. Inspired by a client who wanted to impress his wife with exquisite taste. Well, he's already married to her.
00:47:29
Speaker 7: Impressor Yeah, one thousand dollars a grand.
00:47:33
Speaker 3: The cocktail is infused with high end spirits like Grand Manier, Quintessence and Hennessy Richard Kognac, which contribute to the high price tag. I guess these are I guess that's yeah. And the drink is topped with twenty four carrot edible gold leaf and a logo stamped chocolate, adding to its decadence and costs.
00:47:56
Speaker 4: Better not be driving, I guess if you, if you drink that, you better have someone drive you.
00:48:00
Speaker 3: But if I got some gold, I'm gonna cash it in, I'm not gonna eat.
00:48:02
Speaker 4: It's not gonna eat it, definitely.
00:48:05
Speaker 3: So the receiver lore is described as rich, brownie and boozy, resembling an upmarket Irish coffee and serving as a boozy dessert in a class despite the steep price. And we're talking one thousand dollars a cup here, y'all, one grand.
00:48:23
Speaker 4: It's a lot of money for it, I know.
00:48:24
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:48:25
Speaker 3: Bartender Victor de Douchage believes there will always be a market for such extravagant offerings catering to those who appreciate the finer things in life.
00:48:37
Speaker 4: Okay, they never said, how is it a regular cup you pay a grand for? Is it?
00:48:42
Speaker 3: Like they said, it was a three tiered a three tiered drinks.
00:48:47
Speaker 4: A big cup.
00:48:48
Speaker 7: It better be the size of a chair.
00:48:51
Speaker 4: And maybe the cups coated in gold.
00:48:53
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's a logo stamped chocolate. Yeah, twenty four carrot gold edible leaf. Because you know there there's some coffee drinks that have gotten you know, gotten some run for that too, you know, having the gold. But again, I don't want to I don't want to eat my gold.
00:49:09
Speaker 4: No, I don't want to cash it in and cash it in. What do you want to eat the gold?
00:49:13
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:49:15
Speaker 4: Maybe it's not. Oh it's edible, edible.
00:49:17
Speaker 3: Edible, not the real Yeah, twenty four character edible gold, but a thousand dollars.
00:49:23
Speaker 7: Can you imagine the tip? The tip on just a drink, I.
00:49:26
Speaker 11: Mean what you eat?
00:49:28
Speaker 4: Well, that would be something that I would say. Someone who's wealthy for sure, regular guy like me would go, I'll make my own. I can buy the gold or fake something looks like yeah, like that and sprinkle it on there or whatever and I made it. It cost me four bucks.
00:49:45
Speaker 3: When it cost me four dollars, that's what chocolate should cost exactly, exactly right. This is crazy, but hey, it's New York and folks want to spend look for something to spend their money on. This is the ticket. Just a couple of things that caught my attention. But anyway, Eric, we are let's take a let's take a quick break here, and then when we come back we can get into our next segment with doctor Denise Hayes. Right after this.
00:50:20
Speaker 2: Wtlc AM W two three six c AR, Indianapolis broadcasting from the Praise Indy Indiego Studios Indiego Boldly moving Indy Forward. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby, brought to you by Child's Advocates, a champion for justice, opportunity and well being for children on Praise AM thirteen ten ninety five point one FM.
00:50:42
Speaker 3: And we're back, heading into top of the second hour of the show Community Connection today on this Tuesday, March twenty fourth, and March is marching right on out.
00:50:52
Speaker 4: Of here, Eric, it certainly is. It's going so fast, it's like months over.
00:50:57
Speaker 3: But it's it's warming up. Thank goodness for that so ready for the warmth. Yeah, we're ready for the warmth. So I'm not quite not quite sure about the fast food thing, I think, and certainly not the hot shot or the hot chocolate.
00:51:13
Speaker 4: I'd have to say, no, I'll make my own.
00:51:15
Speaker 3: But you know what, the fact that we're talking about it, and I'm sure people all over the country are talking about it.
00:51:20
Speaker 7: It'll sell itself.
00:51:21
Speaker 4: Of course it will. It's good, it will. But a thousand bucks, you know, maybe, I don't know, Maybe go in and a couple of people put some money in on.
00:51:28
Speaker 3: It, and everybody have a sip. Oh, my goodness, shall do it the old fashioned Definitely, I'll pitch in there you go two fifty apiece or.
00:51:40
Speaker 4: And it's a thousand dollars and the tip, you know whatever, the tip would be. Yeah, And everybody said or something a little you know, a small cup of your own idea. Why not.
00:51:49
Speaker 3: I can see a bunch of us sitting up there all right, exactly.
00:51:52
Speaker 4: Here you go. I got twenty, there's forty sixty.
00:51:55
Speaker 3: There we go, there we go. Indeed, well, Eric, as we were saying at the top of the show, millions of Americans are experiencing high levels of stress each and every day. We can certainly attest to that just by the calls that we get in here each and every day. According to one source online, forty one to fifty of Americans are reporting significant daily stress and peak stress levels. That's roughly one in six people, so one in every six people are going through it some but not all. But some of the causes include that were listed, financial instability, where's the money going to come from to pay for this? Political polarization Trump Trump Trump trump Trump every day?
00:52:42
Speaker 8: Uh?
00:52:42
Speaker 3: And the future and safety of an America at war? That you know that that creates anxiety because you never know what you walk into a building, or you just don't know because the the you know, and you're reminded that you just don't know every day, every single day.
00:53:01
Speaker 7: So those are those are some of the root causes.
00:53:04
Speaker 3: They say. Some of the physical symptoms include fatigue, anxiety, weight loss, weight gain, just to name a few. The good news is there is something that can be done about it's oh yeah, yeah, we don't like to give you the you know, we don't like to give the problem without the what do you call it, the formula without the antidote? Yes, yes, well back with us to share more on that is our good friend, Doctor Denise Hayes, psychologist and president of the Indiana Chapter of the Association of Black Psychologists. Doctor Hayes, welcome back. How are you today.
00:53:40
Speaker 6: I'm wonderful, Thank you. I'm glad the sun is shining and I'm able to participate in community connections and share some good news with our community.
00:53:51
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I was told to tell you that a little birdie told me that you had you had a small procedure yesterday and to ask to ask how you are doing.
00:54:02
Speaker 7: So you know who the birdy is.
00:54:07
Speaker 5: It must be a parrot.
00:54:09
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, that's a good one. That's a good one.
00:54:17
Speaker 6: So yes, I had a cataract surgery yesterday and this was the second second of two and everything went well, so I should be able to drive at night.
00:54:29
Speaker 5: I didn't like the idea that I.
00:54:31
Speaker 6: Had to really stop going out when the sun went down or I have a ride with someone. I want to maintain my independence as long as possible, and so I went with the second eye yesterday.
00:54:43
Speaker 5: So I am.
00:54:45
Speaker 6: Sitting in my office and taking my eye drops and taking some I duprofen and for many people, probably fifty plus they've gone through it.
00:54:55
Speaker 5: And not that difficult.
00:54:57
Speaker 6: It's better than ruth canal how about that?
00:55:00
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, better than a root connewn No. I was told I had an eye exam several years ago. It wasn't ten but anyway, the eye doctor told me I had the slight beginnings, but it would take maybe ten to twelve years for it to ripen. I guess, to get big enough to where it needs to come off. So I guess. But and then my sister had it done, and she said it took longer to prepare her for the surgery then it did the surgery itself. She said, Tina, I promise you it couldn't have been more than ten or fifteen minutes.
00:55:32
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what she said.
00:55:33
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true.
00:55:36
Speaker 6: So you know, you want to feel confident in your provider, no matter what they're doing. And I went through doctor Abrams and it was just a wonderful experience. And I've had many friends that have gone through that office, and so those are that's my testimony. Everything went as planned and I am doing.
00:55:59
Speaker 3: Better all right, thanks to the past of parents, the past affair.
00:56:05
Speaker 7: Uh Eric, you know who that might be.
00:56:11
Speaker 3: Office when the parroented news came, parroted news came across our way.
00:56:16
Speaker 7: So mission accomplished about.
00:56:20
Speaker 3: So, so, doctor Hayes, a really uh, really appropriate timely subject you're bringing to us today. Uh And and you know, and looking up some of the stats and reading some of that, that is just hard to believe. And you gotta you gotta think has this exacerbated as a result of of what's going on?
00:56:39
Speaker 7: Uh?
00:56:40
Speaker 3: It has to be right.
00:56:42
Speaker 6: Well, we've talked about that. You know, what's on social media, the.
00:56:48
Speaker 5: The division in our country.
00:56:49
Speaker 6: You know, there's it's not new for us to have different ideas, but the almost radicalization or some use the word cult like following people become very extreme in their positions has broken up a lot of families. And so you know, of course, I believe it's like six thousand to ten thousand African American women are unemployed as a result from between January twenty twenty.
00:57:19
Speaker 5: Five and now.
00:57:21
Speaker 6: And you know, you might say it's just circumstances, but it doesn't look that way. And you know, and so and then on top of that, we have the aging population, the baby boomers, and so there are many people are listening to the news this morning. Are in the Sandwich genuine generation where they are caring for parents and caring for their children. And so there are a lot of factors.
00:57:48
Speaker 5: Even just climate change.
00:57:51
Speaker 6: Is impacting us, you know, it's like it just adds stressed in a lot of different ways. That course, the cost of gas is up about a dollar a quarter galllet.
00:58:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have been going out.
00:58:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, food is painful. I think I'll lose weight pretty easily now because but you've you've assembled a multi prong group of folks here with us today, group of professionals because you say, because it sounds like it's it can be attacked. The problem can be attacked with the multi uh pronged approach. So we have with us on the line. We have Felicia Thomas, she is a spiritual coach. We have Angela Gowans, she is a registered dietitian. And we also have Sharon Sanders, she is a mental health cooinition and a returning guest, a returning guest, and she is from Community and Family Partners. So thank you all.
00:58:48
Speaker 6: And I think I think we have Alena Smith.
00:58:51
Speaker 3: Is she no, not yet Elena Smith is not yet here, okay. And doctor Rose is not yet here, but when.
00:59:00
Speaker 5: They will not be joined us.
00:59:02
Speaker 3: Oh, she will not be joined.
00:59:04
Speaker 5: Our calendar couldn't make it.
00:59:06
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, my band, my band. Uh So anyway, well, and we will let you know when you know when when she calls it. So now number one first, everyone, welcome and thank you for being with us. And welcome back. Welcome back, Yes, thank.
00:59:24
Speaker 5: You, thank you, happy to be here.
00:59:27
Speaker 3: So each one of you represent a different aspect of wellness as it pertains to uh, mental mental wellness, mental health. And so uh doctor Hayes, where do you want to where do you want to start with this?
00:59:40
Speaker 6: Well, we have the representation of mind, body, and spirit.
00:59:44
Speaker 3: Ah okay, and uh so I.
00:59:47
Speaker 6: Would like to just begin, and I'll just ask Felicia to begin. She's a spiritual counselor uh sorry, spiritual coach, and so just talk some about your training and what brings people to you.
01:00:07
Speaker 8: Ah.
01:00:07
Speaker 13: Yes, thank you so much for having me. I am honored to Yeah, I am honored to be here and grateful to be part of this conversation on mental wellness. And I want to correct it. I am a Christian life coach. I believe there's a separation between Christian life coach and spiritual coach.
01:00:24
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
01:00:26
Speaker 14: No, no, no problem.
01:00:27
Speaker 13: Well, I think a spiritual A spiritual coach is a little more broad. They can include any belief system. But Christian life coaching is rooted in spiritual prayer and the guidance of.
01:00:38
Speaker 5: The Holy Spirit. So I believe that's where the difference come in.
01:00:42
Speaker 13: I think it's the root, that perspective or whatever. But yeah, so I am of Felicia Thomas, a Christian life coach. Health teams, adults and couples rediscover clarity by thenity and emotional safety so they can re align with who God designed them to be. Some people come feeling stuff, they felt overwhelmed or disconnected from who they truly are, and not everyone has a painful pass and it's not always about trauma informed. But everyone comes to coaching with a story. They come to coaching with a topic of hand. So some have been through difficult experiences, some haven't. But everyone has patterns, They have stories that shape how they show up.
01:01:22
Speaker 3: In this world.
01:01:23
Speaker 13: So I help them understand those patterns with compassionate truth.
01:01:27
Speaker 3: So what does that entail if you don't mind Ms Thomas, what is the coaching aspect of what you do entail.
01:01:36
Speaker 13: Again is creator around clarity and emotional grounding and spiritual alignment. So when someone comes like to coaching, say for instance, for emotional grounding and we talk about it with mental wellness, it looks like helping someone slow down, breathe, and name what's happening inside of them instead of reacting from overwhelmed. And when it comes to the spiritual alignment of it looks like, you know, helping them connect with God's truth about what they are and life feels feel confusing or heavy in a sense, right, and then clarity looks like helping them understand their patterns, why they shut down, why they overthink, why they feel stuck, so they can move forward with confidence.
01:02:19
Speaker 6: Okay, and Alicia, could you share because we talked about this about Lark's Song and the training that you received there.
01:02:29
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:02:29
Speaker 13: So I got my certification through Larkstone, which is locating in Mary, Indiana.
01:02:34
Speaker 5: It's like a six month program.
01:02:36
Speaker 13: I think it's like one hundred and eighty hours, but it is a credited coaching practice that basically they prepare you to coach with clarity and the approach of a coactive model, which is you know, collaborating together with clients to take action, right, to prepare them for their journey. And we believe that, you know, going through that coaching, that people are naturally creative and resourceful and whole they're capable of coming up with answers taking action. So we basically are as coaches, are championed them on that we have and leading leading them to.
01:03:14
Speaker 5: That possible safety. How is yeah it is?
01:03:18
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
01:03:19
Speaker 13: I was just saying it is located in I think it's larkstone dot com where you can find more information on that, but it is located in a Marianniana.
01:03:28
Speaker 3: When people hear the word coach, they are I'm sorry, go ahead, doctor Hayes.
01:03:32
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, that's l A r K s o n g lark song.
01:03:37
Speaker 13: Right, it's l A r K s s O n g like a lark song.
01:03:42
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, uh so so. And I just want to help folks get a little a little more clarity because when you hear the word coach, you're thinking of I. You know, I tend to go to sports where you know, the one person is in charge of a whole lot of others. So how how would would coaching in this field differentiate from what we consider to be counseling.
01:04:04
Speaker 5: Well, that's the difference.
01:04:06
Speaker 13: Well, coach, for one, they do not diagnose, and they don't prescribe medication. They just create spaces where people can breathe right, they can understand.
01:04:15
Speaker 5: Their story and move forward.
01:04:17
Speaker 13: Align with when I'm talking about Christian life coaching God's design.
01:04:22
Speaker 3: I don't provide therapy.
01:04:23
Speaker 13: Those are the roles of our licensed clinicians, the people that are here, the therapists. I don't replace pastorial counseling or tell people what God is in.
01:04:31
Speaker 3: Instead, I help them.
01:04:32
Speaker 13: Flow down, reflect and desern with clarity. So my lane is helping people understand their patterns, strengthen their identity, and create emotional and spiritual grounding. So we basically take people from where they are to where they want to be.
01:04:45
Speaker 6: Okay, So would it be would it be accurate to say that someone might start with you and that as a result of conversation with you, you might say, well you might want to follow up with the counselor Is that likely to happen?
01:05:03
Speaker 1: Oh?
01:05:03
Speaker 5: Definitely.
01:05:03
Speaker 13: So I believe that coaching and licensed mental health fields don't compete. I believe they compliment each other. So the third different purposes, meet different needs and support from different angles. So coaching helps people, like I said, move forward. And I think that with the life and fields, it helps people to heal, diagnose, or treat what's interfering with their ability to function. So we're able to help each other support in that way the growth and the healing at the same time.
01:05:34
Speaker 3: Okay, so ms goans registered dietitian. We hear all the time. You are what you eat, they so kid, Yeah, yeah, I'll let you go ahead.
01:05:51
Speaker 6: Well, I want to jump in because I want to I want to share why I wanted.
01:05:56
Speaker 5: To include her.
01:05:57
Speaker 6: Oh okay, she's a registered coetitian and she is calling for Minneapolis, Minnesota, which is the home of my grandchildren, and so this is my daughter in love.
01:06:12
Speaker 3: Oh yes, how about that? How about that?
01:06:16
Speaker 6: And she does a lot of outstanding work, particularly with eating disorders and the area. The professional feeling of eating disorders is often attributed only to young white women, and so she and some of her business partners have really expanded the understanding and the competency of that field.
01:06:43
Speaker 5: They have national.
01:06:45
Speaker 6: Conferences and I think they'll have their fifth one this year with people from all over the world, So I just want to share that background. And so they're eating disorders that don't necessarily just look like somebody sticking their finger down their throat and vomiting or just starving themselves. And so I think Angela will really add to this conversation about mind, body and spirit.
01:07:10
Speaker 5: So jump in, Angela.
01:07:13
Speaker 15: Okay, well, thank you. I'm blessed to be here. Thank you for having me, and it's so fun to be on a show along with you. So I am Angela Gowans. I'm a registered dietitian out of Minneapolis, Minnesota, and I'm not a nutritionist. I'm a dietitian. That means that I'm licensed with the state and I have education and ongoing education to back that. So I don't diagnose, but I work with folks in their medical diagnoses and I have a specialty where I actually work with people in their mental health. So you are what you eat. I know you started asking me that there's a lot of truth to that what we put into our bodies does affect our mind, our mood, our body, and our future.
01:07:57
Speaker 6: As we move forward.
01:07:58
Speaker 5: So part of what I.
01:08:00
Speaker 15: Do is offer trauma informed weight inclusive nutrition support for folks to improve their mind, body, just to show up better and to engage better and to live in their life. So what that looks like on a day to day basis is my specialty is eating disorders, but also work with folks who pre and postpartum and enduring pregnancy, and also just general health. So perhaps somebody may come to me. You know, we just all survive the pandemic and we're sort of living in a constant state of stress right now, and oftentimes people turn to food and that can affect our bodies and our mind. And so I play a role in supporting people to change some of their patterns of eating, perhaps their body and their mind as well. And that's done through food and through supplementation only, not medication.
01:09:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you don't mind, can you go back again and explain the difference between a dietitian and a nutritionist, because that's those are two different areas that people I think tend to conflate.
01:09:15
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So I have a number of hours and years of education before being able to sit for an exam and get you know, these letters after my name. So a nutritionist, perhaps you see folks in like the gym or I think you can get a certificate program. So those are typically people you pay out of pocket who don't have.
01:09:44
Speaker 5: I guess as.
01:09:45
Speaker 15: Many hours in education as a dietitian does. Typically you see a registered dietitian. We are because we're licensed. Insurance covers typically will cover us, so that's a bonus for people to be able to tap into, you know, using their resources that way and safe on finances. We also help support people with medical conditions. So if you have co occurring issues, say depression and diabetes, which is common in the black community, you can see a dietitian, typically paid for by your insurance.
01:10:18
Speaker 3: So I always think, you know, like if you have family or if you've ever been like in a hospital or whatever, they always explain that this is what the dietitian. This is the diet that the doctor has recommended and consulted with the dietitian, and this is what the diet. So you know, there are people that are on staff at hospitals that you know, I guess craft meals for individual patients based on consultations with doctors.
01:10:43
Speaker 15: Those are dietitians, right, absolutely, Yep, you'll see us in hospitals nursing homes, even writing menus for restaurants, that sort of thing.
01:10:53
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, all right, doctor Hayes, I'm going to let you introduce your next guest.
01:10:59
Speaker 6: All right, no, miss Sanders. So I'm taking it that Miss Smith has not joined us.
01:11:07
Speaker 5: Is that correct?
01:11:08
Speaker 3: Not yet? Not yet? Okay?
01:11:10
Speaker 6: Well, okay, So Miss Sharon Sanders is family. She is from Family and Community Partners and is a mental health clinician, and so she works with UH in her organization. They work not only in the offices but in the community, and they work with a wide range of members of our community, including youth. And she is also a mentor, so she has she may have more than one. But I have met one of her mentors and one of her mentees, and she's just bringing him.
01:11:51
Speaker 5: Along so that maybe he'll end up in the mental health field. So just jump in sharing what.
01:11:58
Speaker 6: You want to contribute to the discussion of mind, body and spirit.
01:12:02
Speaker 10: Ah, that was so nice.
01:12:05
Speaker 16: I can be pay that.
01:12:07
Speaker 6: I'm holding my heart.
01:12:11
Speaker 17: It is a pleasure to be back alongside these other wonderful individuals. I really do believe we all do work alongside each other to support the a a common cause.
01:12:30
Speaker 2: But I would like.
01:12:32
Speaker 17: To be here to support and add in the conversation of how we all contribute to mind, body, and soul. I definitely use mind, body, and soul as a guide within the therapeutic from a therapeutic platform, because it is all it's all connected. Our bodies, our minds, our soul are all impacted and effected by the thing.
01:13:00
Speaker 10: That we experience and.
01:13:02
Speaker 5: Have encounters with.
01:13:04
Speaker 17: So I'm just going to be here to add interventions that I tend to kind of just navigate or navigate with my clients towards their healing as they are looking to reset, release, and also restore so that they're able to build, you know, build on those tools and on their strengths that support their objectives to accomplish their goals.
01:13:35
Speaker 3: So, doctor Hayes, what what area tends to get out of balance first? That will alert you to the fact that you need to align all three or is there one that gets out of balance typically? First?
01:13:48
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm glad you asked. I was just thinking about someone I would send not long ago, and they were exhausted when they came into the office, and I have.
01:14:01
Speaker 5: Sofa in my office, and they said, I just feel like I need to lay down during this session, and I said that was fine.
01:14:07
Speaker 6: But I happened to notice that her ankles were swollen, and I said, are you Are you taking the medicine that your doctors recommended and she said well mostly.
01:14:21
Speaker 3: I said, well, okay.
01:14:25
Speaker 6: I said, your ankles look kind of swollen, and she she was like, no, they don't. And then she looked at him and she said, oh, they do. And then she said, I've been eating out a lot, which we know that means the sea has high sodium. And so I would say that, and I'm open to conversation because this is not this is not research base. Just my observation is that anxiety increases. So our thoughts are probably the first place where we're worried about what has happened in the past or what's going to happen in the future.
01:15:03
Speaker 5: So I often use.
01:15:05
Speaker 6: Mindfulness and relaxation techniques to help people slow down. As Felicia talked about. Also, I think we change our habits. So when we're in our best place, whatever that is, whether that's walking, or whether that's listening to music and singing, or spending time with friends and family, whatever, is kind of one of our centralized centralizing, balancing, stabilizing kind of activities we get off track.
01:15:39
Speaker 5: So I often use.
01:15:41
Speaker 6: The canary in the coal mine analogy. So back in the day, when there were coal mines and we didn't have machines that would say if there was cobbon carbon monoxide in the.
01:15:55
Speaker 5: Paves, they would use canaries because their systems are so sensitive.
01:16:00
Speaker 6: So if the canary started dying, then that meant that there was some poisonous gases, and so they would leave. And so it's the early warning sign. And so for me, my early warning sign are my plants. So I enjoy health plants, but when they start looking wilted and dead leaves and you know, all that kind of stuff, I know that I am not going at the pace I'm going too fast, that I'm not taking time. And that's my early warning system. So I think it might be different for different people. But I think noticing what how you feel when you're centered versus how you feel when you get off centered is one thing, but recognizing those early warning signs are going to be what's most helpful. So if you normally cook your food, you know, or do food prep on the weekend, and you slip one week that's not a big deal. But if you slip two months, you should pay attention to that. You know, things like that.
01:17:03
Speaker 5: So I think it's to answer your question, I think it's different for different people. But I think it's stress. I think it's change.
01:17:12
Speaker 6: I think it's not feeling well, physical changes, medical changes. There are a lot of different things that can trigger us, but I think the most important thing is recognizing when there's a change happening.
01:17:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, and doctor Hayes, I do believe doctor Smith. Elena Smith has just joined us.
01:17:29
Speaker 6: Yes, oh, excellent, excellent, Well, welcome Alena, And she is a psychiatric nurse practitioner, which I wanted her on. I mean, we've had doctor Lovelace and she is wonderful, but the medical feel and the providers are increasingly having nurse practitioners, and unfortunately I hear people sometimes saying I don't want a nurse practitioner, and what they don't understand is what they have to offer and how it can.
01:18:00
Speaker 5: Really be beneficial.
01:18:01
Speaker 6: And so I wanted Elena to represent and introduce herself. She is with she's the founder of Choice Behavioral Health Network and Choice Medical Institute, so.
01:18:15
Speaker 5: She'll be able to share more about that.
01:18:17
Speaker 6: She specializes in medication management across the lifespan and is passionate about increasing access to evidence based mental health care. And why this is important is because sometimes medication is necessary, whether it's for depression, whether it's for diabetes, whether it's for us writers, whatever is for and as a race, we tend to be hesitant. And I think the more we know, the better our choices, better choices we can make. And certainly when it's someone from our community, we might have a tendency to listen.
01:18:53
Speaker 5: So can you just jump.
01:18:55
Speaker 6: In there, Elena and just say whatever you want to say?
01:19:00
Speaker 14: Hi, guys, I'm a Lina, a psychiatric nurse practitioner, and like she said, I'm the founder of Choice. We have a health network and Choice Medical Institute. I provide mental health care that focuses on real life outcome, so helping people manage anxiety, depression, ADHD and trauma in a way that actually fit their daily lives, with the goal of just, you know, making mental health more accessible, because that's a really big thing, is accessibility and less overwhelming for people who are just trying to function and feel like themselves. Again, So thanks for the introduction.
01:19:42
Speaker 3: Well, I tell you what now that we've got everybody, We got everybody on here and ready, I think we can squeeze in a quick commercial break and then when we come back, we've already got callers that would you know, want to talk to your to the panel and also want to let let you all kind of expand a little bit on what on the topic the topic at hand. But let's get this commercial break in here, and then when we come back, we'll head right back.
01:20:20
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01:20:35
Speaker 3: And we're back with Community Connection. The topic Mind, Body and Soul, Tending to your mind, body and soul in times of high stress. Here with us is our good friend, doctor Denise Hayes. She is a psychologist and president of the Indiana Chapter of Association of Black Psychologists. Felicia Thomas, a Christian life coach. We have Angela Gowans, a registered dietitian. Just joining us, Alena Smith, a psychiatric nurse practitioner and UH doctor, doctor Hayes. We I was saying that, you know, before we went to Oh, Sharon Sanders, I'm sorry, I did not mean to leave you out. Sharon Sanders, mental health clinician and of course a good friend of the doctor Hayes. Before we went to commercial, we had a caller that has a question for the panel.
01:21:26
Speaker 7: Uh so are you prepared to take.
01:21:28
Speaker 3: The take that question now?
01:21:30
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
01:21:31
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, go ahead, let's see who Oh we have Joyce. Go ahead, Joyce, thanks for talking.
01:21:38
Speaker 16: Taking my call to Day TEENA. I thought i'd step out on the porch and get some sunshine. This is a very interesting and important Uh. I guess you know how I jump around team. Okay, so first point, and I had more. I got three? Oh who these prescriptions? Which pill?
01:21:59
Speaker 1: Are you on the red or the blue?
01:22:01
Speaker 16: Because we can heal ourselves naturally? Oh you my doubt?
01:22:06
Speaker 3: Would you say?
01:22:07
Speaker 7: Okay, we lost her?
01:22:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, we lost her there so, but but I do think it's an important she's.
01:22:14
Speaker 5: I don't know where she was headed, but I.
01:22:16
Speaker 6: Would say that a lot of times black people are hesitant to take medicine, and that there is some truth to that. There are some things we can do to heal ourselves. Some things might be beyond naturalistic healing, but maybe not everything. And I'm wondering if the panelists want to jump in on that.
01:22:40
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, I do agree with you. I can definitely speak to that. I think that is a lot of hesitation in the community when it comes to medication, and honestly, some of that is just understanding lack of edication. You know, historically there's been a lot of mistrust in the health care system, so people are more cautious and that's valid, you know, but I always like to help people understand that it's not just it's not an.
01:23:10
Speaker 3: Either or situation.
01:23:12
Speaker 14: There's absolutely a place for natural approaches things like nutrition, sunlight, movement, stress management. You know, those are pretty foundational things. And at the same time, there's individuals whose symptoms like severe anxiety, depression, and mood instability are impacting their ability to function day to day. Sell In those cases, you know, medication can be a very helpful tool, not to change who you are, but to help stabilize what's already happening in the brain. So it's really just about balance and making informed decisions, not your basements.
01:23:51
Speaker 6: Indeed, and I think one of the things that comes up people when I'm talking to people is that sometimes they don't feel like their prescriber or the physician or whoever it is a psychiatrist is listening to them and what their signs are, or if there are side effects they don't feel like they feel like they might be dismissed, or if the medicine is too much or their side effects. A lot of times the message they'll get is, well, just keep on crying. You're not trying hard enough. Things like that. And so I wonder if any of the providers, because I know Angelo works with patients that are seeing prescribers. I'm sure Alena works well. You hear stories of people that have been in other places and they didn't feel heard and shared.
01:24:46
Speaker 5: I'm sure you hear that.
01:24:47
Speaker 6: So I'm wondering what kind of advice do you give your.
01:24:50
Speaker 5: Client tell about these stories.
01:24:53
Speaker 6: And how can they feel more empowered with that?
01:24:57
Speaker 5: For me, anyone can jump in, Okay, so something you brought that up.
01:25:02
Speaker 14: Actually, because I have pretty much every patient, every new patient that comes to me, one of the biggest complaints is.
01:25:13
Speaker 5: They were with.
01:25:13
Speaker 14: Someone who didn't listen to them and they were telling them what was wrong, how they felt and they were blown off.
01:25:19
Speaker 13: I hear that a.
01:25:21
Speaker 14: Lot, and that's actually one of the things I pride myself with a lot of patients. They're very comfortable with me because they do feel that I'm the total opposite of that. I do listen because you have to. They're They're an actual person. I think sometimes and I can't speak for all providers, but I do understand that some people have heavy patient lots and sometimes they may take on more than.
01:25:42
Speaker 5: What they can handle, so they may.
01:25:44
Speaker 14: Rush and not give the attention that's needed to you know, the patients and not really understanding what's going on, and therefore could potentially, you know, be misdiagnosed. So that's an actual, real, you know concern. But one thing I always tell my patients is, you know, you should never feel business when it comes to how your body is responding to medication. It's our job as prescribers to monitor patients closely and in a certain amount of time once they started medication, because this is how we'll determine are they having side effects, how well are they responding to these medications, what dose changes are met changes do I need to make? So there's some valid, valid points out there, and you know it's it's unfortunate, but my approach is very collaborative, so just reassessed. Sometimes we change the plan altogether. Because medicine is not a one fla football. Everybody responds differently to the same medication, So it should never feel like something, you know, being important.
01:26:49
Speaker 3: Grasping the concept of mental wellness, and as as you were saying, uh, doctor Hayes's mind, body, and soul, that that truly is the balance that I think you all are talking about. And but but circling back to just the concept of mental wellness, it's been difficult getting to a point where we are just now, especially in the African American community, we're just now able to normalize it, to talk about it, and to accept it. Oftentimes even in some churches not so much now because I think even churches are coming around to where it's not a one size fit all. It's the stigma if you're not mentally well. It doesn't mean necessarily that you're in a crisis of faith. It doesn't mean necessarily that you've done something wrong. It doesn't mean necessarily so we as a community, as you know, the culture, our culture has made some really positive strides in embracing all of the aspects that are necessary for mental wellness, but just to embrace the idea of mental wellness. We got a little bit behind everybody, so we're trying to catch up. What would anyone can can speak to this? What are you? What are your thoughts on that?
01:28:11
Speaker 2: Well?
01:28:12
Speaker 17: At well?
01:28:14
Speaker 8: This is Sharon.
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Speaker 17: I just wanted to praise Elena for her patients when it comes to just.
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Speaker 5: Helping them navigate through that.
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Speaker 17: But I also want to add that I work. I work with the youth, closely with the youth and families, and one thing that has helped that has been hidden from our community is education behind it, having the knowledge and understanding of what they are taking and how it supports them. Maybe the you know, the symptoms, how long will it impact them? Affect them? And with that being said, I also do provide them the understandings. Isn't something that you have to be on forver. I, you know, I kind of or pair it up with use it as a tool, just even like the holistic tools that they're being taught through breathing exercises, thematic awareness and just different other therapeutic interventions. This is just a tool to help at least stabilize so that you can slow down and see how your other efforts, your your holistic efforts or supporting you. But the knowledge of it, I feel like is really important at least for especially for the youth, because they are navigating this world a little differently than previous generations.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Indeed, so some strategies that that any of you would recommend in terms of sifting through and sorting out the noise that that creates that leads to the stress, that leads to the mental stress that we all deal with daily. Strategies any any do you have any I know you said deep breathing, doctor Hayes. Sometimes, Yeah, go ahead.
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Speaker 6: I have a couple of quick and dirty techniques.
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Speaker 5: One is five four three two.
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Speaker 6: One grounding, and so it is identifying five things you can see, four things that you can touch, three things that you can hear, two things you can smell, and one thing that you can taste.
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Speaker 5: And when you take yourself through that, it's all your senses.
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Speaker 6: You are moving from all the chatter to coming to mindfulness, being in the presence, and it just slows you down and you can just look up on the internet five four three two one grounding and it will have it. It's everywhere, it's free, it's available, and so that's one. The other thing is when we're in the fight flight are freeze mode, meaning that our brain and our body are interpreting something that is physically dangerous to us, even if it's not. So if you're anticipating a meeting in hr, your mind and your body are processing that as a danger, a physical danger, a threat.
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Speaker 5: Not just a worry, and so we stop.
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Speaker 6: Breathing deeply, Our heart rate increases, our stress hormones.
01:31:30
Speaker 5: Increase, all those things. So the five four three two one will help with that.
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Speaker 6: Also, just taking some deep breath inhaling on the counter four and exhaling on the counter four because when your body, when you start to breathe, then your body understands, oh, there's not a physical danger. I'm worried about something, but there's not actually a physical threat, and so then you can kind of think through how you want to handle it better, because when you're in that state of fear, you can't really think of anything but escaping that situation.
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Speaker 5: Is that helpful?
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, someone else, go ahead? So chair, Okay, Well.
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Speaker 17: What I've been just kind of focusing on what I have noticed is it's it's hard to.
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Speaker 6: Have the person in.
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Speaker 17: Front of me be receptive because they are in that state of fight flight.
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Speaker 8: Or freeze or even fawning.
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Speaker 17: Where they will mirror and merge with the threat to disuse the conflict.
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Speaker 5: It's starting to reset their nervous.
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Speaker 17: System where they are then able to regulate and make rational decisions, because if there's if the nervous system is out of whack, like doctor Demyta mentioned, they're they're not going to be receptive.
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Speaker 5: And there is a.
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Speaker 17: Particular breathing exercises called extend exhale where they're going to inhale for in exhale for eight and right then they're releasing tension in their body where they're shifting their body into a pair of sympathetic mode and out of.
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Speaker 6: The fights in flight.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, I believe we have a do we have the collorback Eric back? I think she called back in Okay, So yeah, Joyce, you gonna turn your radio? I hear the echo. Can you turn down your radio?
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Speaker 8: All right?
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Speaker 6: So?
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Speaker 2: Uh?
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Speaker 16: With that them five steps, that's sound like anger control to me. Well, somebody coming to left from the left field from your perspective. You're supposed to before RESPONDI should consider the end results. What okay? So that's what I learned at age twelve about anger control where people trying to push a button. How would you allow that? Or back to the medical and the spiritual Sabe had cures for I mean, it's in our diary, in our daily walk. Were we eating. You can't eat them processed stuff they serve in America, they would not put in another country. Check that and I'm done, say y'all have a wonderful rest of your week. Sure we'll speak again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you? And uh, you know I I would suspect that based on the different areas that she hit that there's a level of stress going on, some kind of a stress going on with her, But I do I'm not the therapist. I mean, what do y'all think? What do you think?
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Speaker 6: I appreciate. I appreciate what she said when you're angry, to consider the consequences of your behavior. So if you are able to do that, But when there are some people that like to push other people's buttons because that's how they have control, and so you want to be aware that sometimes, especially in the work environment, maybe in a stressed family environment that some people want attention, and even bad attention is better.
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Speaker 5: Than being ignored for them.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And so having somebody come at you in a way that anybody would say, well, of course that's going to make somebody angry. But if you're the target, you want to recognize.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
01:35:42
Speaker 6: I can control how I respond. I can't control somebody else's behavior. Sure, And so what you want to think about is how am I going to respond? Am I going to feel good about this response tonight when I go to sleep?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: And I think those breathing techniques, whether it's inhaling four in and exhaling eight out, are the five four three two one browning, are just taking a couple of deep breaths will give you more resources to respond.
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Speaker 3: We have another caller that wants to address the panel, Josephine, go ahead. How are you?
01:36:22
Speaker 5: Hi?
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Speaker 8: Everybody?
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Speaker 16: How are you do?
01:36:24
Speaker 7: Well?
01:36:24
Speaker 6: Go ahead?
01:36:25
Speaker 3: Thank you, Harry.
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Speaker 8: I have I have a comment. First with severe with severe mental disease like schizophrenia and bipolar stuff like that, do you first of all, isn't it important even if you don't have those things, is accept the fact that you have the problem. Then you can go on with the solution and healing yourself physically, spiritually, and mentally.
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Speaker 6: So just to clarify, are you are you asking if someone has been diagnosed with schizophrenia or mood disorder to first accept that diagnosis.
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Speaker 8: Is that what you're saying, Well, except I have that I have none differentiated scos between I'm patting since I was ten and I'm sixty seven.
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Speaker 6: A more acceptance is important.
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Speaker 8: But I just wanted to make a comment that maybe people are listening out there, is important that they accept that they have this particular not the schizophrenic, but particular illness they so that they can begin to heal and then be able to progress further than other areas of their life seriously, physically and mentally.
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Speaker 5: For people would have serious diseases like.
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Speaker 8: That, sometimes it's hard to get up, even to get up out of bed in the morning. But the key to recovery is acceptance. And a lot of times when I speak to people, I'm going to be a facilitator for a group, But when I speak to people, they're in denial. They they don't want to accept it, and that's a big problem.
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Speaker 9: Interesting, Okay, Yeah, and I do think that anytime any illness, any illness that we are told about, often we have to go It's like.
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Speaker 5: A grief process. We thought we were.
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Speaker 6: One particular way, and now we're getting information that something is different. And so that acceptance comes after you greeed that I'm not the way I thought I was, or I have some kind of illness or or you know, there's a change happening, and so I think that that's part of it. And so it's the acceptance is important, but it is a process, and so I agree with the caller that it's important, and I just want to add that I think there's a process and sometimes we have to be patient with that process, but not accepting it can get in.
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Speaker 5: In the way. You know, of are I agree with I.
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Speaker 8: Agree with I agree with you, But because like I said, I've been sick when I was ten and I'm sixty seven, I've been going through a lot of processes as I get older as well as when I was a.
01:39:14
Speaker 5: Particular age, I had to deal with them.
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Speaker 8: I made decisions in my life that I couldn't do certain things for the benefit of my mental health. So I agree with the steps you you're taking. Vote like with cancer, well, it's not cancer.
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Speaker 6: Well, in a way, it.
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Speaker 8: Is like cancer, a disease that you really can't control unless it's curable. And uh, mental disease, it's not necessarily curable. It's something you can deal with and control.
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Speaker 3: So Josephine, let me ask you a question over the course of your life in terms of living with the illness and and and dealing with it and seeking relief I guess or seeking you know, seeking something that allows you not to be stressed or in a state of emergency. Have you have you tried the mind body spirit approach that our panel here is is representing.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 8: Mentally, I draw, I draw portraits, Okay, that's what I draw. And I also attend church, which is my spiritual.
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Speaker 3: In the body. In terms of the diet and exercise, you know that that area.
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Speaker 8: Don't do too well with. I need to work on that, but is equally important. It just depends on what time I was in my life. I can't go through the whole detail, but it depends on what I was in my life and the medication and what I was doing. I mean, I literally made decisions not to have children because of my mental health. I mean, that was a hard time. For me, but I had to accept the fact that I couldn't handle that, yeah at that particular time because of my disease.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Josephine, thank you very I don't want to cut you off, but we're about to run out of time here. But you've given us, uh you know that that's that's more food for thought, uh, doctor Hayes as well in terms of somebody you know, that's the life long you know, lifelong mental wellness.
01:41:17
Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I think the other thing that's really important is to develop a community of support of people that understand. And they may be your family, they may be your providers.
01:41:31
Speaker 5: They could be a nurse or.
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Speaker 6: A medical assistant in the doctor's office and you just say, hey, this is really hard. You know a place where you know, I could get some support, whether it's about uh, you know, an autoimmune illness, multiplecrosis.
01:41:48
Speaker 5: Lucus sickle cell.
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Speaker 6: I mean, all of these illnesses or our body dysfunctions are impacted by can be positively be impacted by haven't support system.
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Speaker 3: So so, doctor Hayes, how would we get in touch with all of our panelis? I want to thank you doctor Hayes. Miss Thomas ms Gowings, Miss Smith and of course miss Sanders. Thank you all so so very much for being with us today. As always, we never have enough time. But if what is your information, Doctor Hayes, and then you can let our listeners know how to get in touch with everyone else.
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Speaker 6: Okay, I can get you in touch with all of these people. If you call me at area code three one seven three seven two zero seven eight eight again three one seven three seven two zero seven eight eight, leave a message on my voicemail.
01:42:42
Speaker 5: I will call you back. Leave your email. I will email you back.
01:42:46
Speaker 6: Thank you so much for this opportunity and thank you for the panelist.
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Speaker 5: I appreciate all of you. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 3: Thank you and get well soon with your rece searches. Thank you all. I loved having you all. Thank you so much. That is all time we have for right now. Our website is Praisindi dot com. Williemore Jr. On the radio is up next. Please continue to be safety well and stay informed for everyone here, I'm Tina Cosby and this is Community Connection
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