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Shemai Paobak Kroysar, hello everybody, and welcome to Devil's Debrief after the Cardiff Devils have beaten the Dundee Stars 3-0 on anniversary night to celebrate their 40th birthday.
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Dan Rodrich alongside Gareth Hewish.
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And guys, that wasn't pretty at times, but the Devil's got it done.
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No, it wasn't pretty uh at all.
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Uh it uh was a frustrating night.
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Uh discipline, I think, is the word uh I used in the interview with uh Dundee Stars uh head coach after the game because I thought Dundee were really disciplined.
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I thought from the puck drop they had a structure, their stick detail was fantastic, and uh they tried to frustrate us tonight.
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And I think that was the right game plan for them.
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I think that was the right strategy, and I think that on another night, if they had snuck a goal at some point, we would have had a really, really different vibe uh in the arena.
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So yeah, I don't think that's uh one for the catalogue of uh the 40-year history that we'll talk to our children about, but um a win is the important thing.
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A win is a win, yeah.
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I think you're right.
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And I think Dundee maybe set out, they knew they knew the occasion tonight, they knew that obviously there'd be a lot going on, so they they just set out to frustrate the devils.
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They played, you know, very high, they forced them into Devil's Training, almost forced them to try things that they didn't want to do, wouldn't let the Devils get set, wouldn't let them play the systems they wanted to.
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So all credit to them because you know, coming in tonight, uh, you maybe worry about Dundee only having one win on the season, tough record, but actually I think they they performed pretty admirably tonight.
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Yeah, and I I certainly don't think that uh that's a team there in Dundee that's um gonna struggle to pick up wins once they get into to a rhythm.
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I I get a sense that you know they're a very new team, they haven't really got a lot of legacy guys even from from previous Dundee teams.
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So this is a total fresh start, and I think that does take time to come in.
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But I always look and see what what is the effort from the team, you know, is are you blocking shots?
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Are you going into those dirty areas?
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Are you doing all you can?
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Like I said, the stick D Del tonight was fantastic.
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Every time the Devils had a sniff of something, there'd be a stick in the lane, there'd be something there, there'd be the assignments were just so spot on.
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So I don't worry uh uh about Dundee.
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I I think that that that's a group they that's committed to the cause.
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Yeah, for the Devils, you know, they stuck with it long enough, they get a goal through Nick Wells, really well taken goal by them, and then of course, in the end, it's the it's the two as the game goes on, one on the power play and one into the empty net.
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And yeah, I mean maybe they didn't test the stars as much as they would have wanted to going forward, but they they they get three goals on the night.
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And uh Ronnie Brandt seems to be uh really in this uh vein of form where he's picking up that pack in the slot and just a little nudge to the right in with to someone in space.
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And uh, you know, considering the goal scoring form uh he's been in uh the last year or so, um, to be that unselfish, I think shows you know the maturity in the in his game, Riley Brandt.
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And there's a it was an important goal because if we had gone into the end of the second without that, I think the crowd start getting nervous and start getting frustrated, and then I think you start to make mistakes and force in plays a bit more than maybe we were.
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Yeah, you could you I think you could see that forcing of the play starting to come, and I think the devils were starting to feel it, but um, you know, the goal goes in, there's there's relief around the room, and I think actually a really nice moment was his celebration, Nick Welsh as well, you know, holds the badge, it's obviously the original club badge as well, and and looks up to the area where all the legends are sitting on on the night and enjoying.
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So uh yeah, it almost took that weight off everyone's shoulders.
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And and I think the devils actually they'd been good up until that point in the second period, but once that went in, it was a lot more freeing for them, I thought.
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Yeah, it was.
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I think I think you referenced it uh on Connor that they started stopped gripping the stick so tight, and the natural game started to come through.
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And then you saw then in the third period where we started to do things that forced errors in Dundee.
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Tom Caron driving the net and they couldn't handle him because of how strong he is, how fast he is.
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They take that penalty, it's the only penalty they take all night.
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And Josh McDonald, who was really annoyed at this point in the in the game with Brand, um you know rips it, doesn't he?
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He absolutely rips it, and uh, you know, it's one of those things where his stick was just imbued with his anger, wasn't it?
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It was just absolutely all of that frustration coming out.
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Um, really, really important goal, and the devils did deserve the victory tonight.
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And I was proud of how we stuck to our assignment and kept believing in what we were doing to get through uh tonight.
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But I would like going forward just to see a few less hot goalies come into the building and a few more shots go past.
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Um, but we've got a hot goalie, so uh that's always good.
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We do indeed.
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Let's touch on Ben Bounds, 37th shutout in Devil's College.
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You know, if there was going to be a night to add to the history that you've put to that club in Ben Bounds tonight, was it?
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It was, and it's amazing to me that Bounds has this record and this legacy at the Devils, and you know, this this winning mentality when I think about how many good goalies we've had over 40 years: Stevie Lyle, Derek Olofsky, Frank Caprice, Jason Wood, Jeff Smith, uh Peter Aubrey, Philosophie.
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I apologize to anyone I'm leaving out.
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Uh, you know, Stevie Lyle was uh here tonight if I had mentioned him already.
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But the fact that Ben Bounds is the top of that pile just shows you what a player he is and what you know uh a history he's forged within the devils for 40 years.
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He'll be he's a hall of famer for sure uh going forward, and we've been so so lucky to have him.
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We have indeed.
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I caught up with him after the man of the match performance.
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Ben Ban's Man of the Match Performance, shut out.
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What do you make of that?
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Yeah, no, it's uh it's always nice to get a shot out.
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Um, don't matter how old you are or how many you got now, it's it's always nice, and I think even what everyone uh gets more special every time.
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It's nice to embrace it.
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Uh, like I said, now I'm getting older.
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You don't know how much uh how much longer you're gonna get to do this for, so it was nice to uh get that.
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The guys were awesome in front and uh yeah, enjoyed it.
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Historic night for the club, obviously, with the 40th anniversary, and you get your 37.
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There's another little bit of the devil's history.
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Does it do you do you look at it that way?
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Do you appreciate the fact that you're making history as the club is as well?
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Yeah, um, yeah, it was it's kind of a nice night to do that on to have been a part of this franchise for uh as long as you haven't been lucky enough to be a big part of it.
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Uh it's been all a very special journey.
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It's been a fun journey, and like I said, to commemorate the 40th anniversary and seeing all the guys back that I played with, the guys that created this franchise and Dynasty, um it were kind of it was special to get to play in front of them as well.
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And it was a game that was maybe a little bit frustrating at times, levels, couldn't quite get that second on the ball, but in the end, you got it, and it was just about sticking with it tonight.
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Yeah, I thought we had a bit of a slow and a bit of a sloppy first, but I mean uh I think that always happens when you have ceremonies like that before a game, and uh you got to honor what's happened in the in the past.
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I mean, that's a big part of this club's history, right?
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Uh but it doesn't matter when it is, I think guys uh guys get a bit emotional watching that kind of stuff.
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I know I definitely do, and then you go out and you've got to come back down to Earth.
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And I thought we did well to weather that first period.
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Like I said, we'd have come out a bit too slow, and uh second period, third period.
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I thought we were really good, and the third period uh was very clinical defensively as well as offensively.
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You got your chance to do the bamboo with your old mate Joey Hiddad as well.
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Yeah, I didn't give him a choice on that.
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We're nice to get Steve on there as well.
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I mean, Steve, let's let's be honest, like Steve's been a big part of my uh career here.
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Him and Kim and his family have been absolutely awesome to me.
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So it's whenever they're in town, it's always nice to have them on the ice for me and to see Chef back.
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It's been a few years since I last saw him, and obviously uh he's not been a part of this club since pre-COVID, and uh he's he's one of the best guys I've ever played with, both on the ice and off the ice.
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Absolutely love him to bits.
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So I wouldn't really give him an option to uh miss out on that.
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I thought it'd embarrass him.
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Big thanks to Bouncey, and uh it was nice at the end as well.
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You know, he he spoke he spoken about it in that interview, uh, you know, getting that wave with with Joey Haddad and with Steve King, two guys who were obviously massive for FaceTime in Cardiff.
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Yeah, it's uh it's been uh quite a ride, hasn't it?
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That that tonight is what struck me, really, is seeing the pockets of teams that that were together.
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And you know, we had shots tonight where you know Andrew Hawtham, uh Joey Haddad, Jake Morissette are the uh sharing base together and these guys on the ice who played with them, Mark Richardson and uh and Bounsey and Fawns, and you know, it just it's amazing how quickly sometimes it goes past within a blink of an eye with 40 years and seeing all of the guys who've contributed tonight.
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The turnout from the legends was fantastic.
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Uh, it it just goes to show what the club means to them as much as what they have meant to the club uh and us as fans.
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Uh, a really special night, and that is of course why Neil Francis isn't on debrief tonight.
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He is uh sharing locker room stories with uh his friends.
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Yeah, we've given him the night off, and I think it's well earned judging by how much work he's put in over the past.
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Just quickly ahead of tomorrow now.
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Belfast come in, and and you know, the Devils will enjoy this win, and then they've enjoyed obviously the night and the occasion and the celebration, but tomorrow is back to normal, basically.
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It is a run-of-the-mill game, you don't expect any different.
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There, of course, there will be people in the building watching like the owners and former players, but it's just straight back to face off at five, you get going, you've got to start on time against the Giants.
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Yeah, there can be uh no uh time off tonight.
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And you know, uh in many ways, you would have loved to have had a game tonight where you rush to a four-goal lead at the end of the second period and maybe consider some energy, but the Motor Pont Elite League isn't like that anymore.
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Uh, you simply don't get uh that kind of uh time off, or you don't get those blowouts anymore.
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I mean, just look at what well you do, but it was in five tonight, uh, which uh you know hats off to them three three in a row.
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Um, but tomorrow is a is a huge game because we have as a club have been very clear about what our ambitions are this year, um, and you know, the last few years it has been very clear who the top dog is uh in this in this league.
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Um winning league titles for fun, churning churning it out.
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Adam Keefe has got the Belfast Giants, you know, finely tuned title winning machine.
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Uh, but we want to take that spot.
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But if you want to take that spot, you have to take it on the ice.
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So uh what a way to round off the the 40th anniversary weekend uh tomorrow.
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It's gotta be one.
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Uh I dare say, and I may curse it, will be far more entertaining than tonight because I think it'll be a bit more open and I think there'll be a few more chances.
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But it's the toughest test that we've had uh thus far, and I'm intrigued to see how we match up to it.
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If you want to beat the champs, you've got to knock them out.
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The devils take on the giants tomorrow, five o'clock face off.
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If you're not joining us at the rent, we'll be on the stream.
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If I'll be back with us, we hope, depending on how sore his head is in the morning.
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And uh yeah, we'll have debrief and then insider in the week.
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So thank you very much for listening once again.
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Happy birthday, Cardiff Devils.
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Shemai Paobak Kroysar, hello everybody, and welcome to Devil's Debrief after the Cardiff Devils have beaten the Dundee Stars 3-0 on anniversary night to celebrate their 40th birthday.
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Dan Rodrich alongside Gareth Hewish.
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And guys, that wasn't pretty at times, but the Devil's got it done.
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No, it wasn't pretty uh at all.
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Uh it uh was a frustrating night.
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Uh discipline, I think, is the word uh I used in the interview with uh Dundee Stars uh head coach after the game because I thought Dundee were really disciplined.
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I thought from the puck drop they had a structure, their stick detail was fantastic, and uh they tried to frustrate us tonight.
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And I think that was the right game plan for them.
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I think that was the right strategy, and I think that on another night, if they had snuck a goal at some point, we would have had a really, really different vibe uh in the arena.
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So yeah, I don't think that's uh one for the catalogue of uh the 40-year history that we'll talk to our children about, but um a win is the important thing.
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A win is a win, yeah.
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I think you're right.
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And I think Dundee maybe set out, they knew they knew the occasion tonight, they knew that obviously there'd be a lot going on, so they they just set out to frustrate the devils.
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They played, you know, very high, they forced them into Devil's Training, almost forced them to try things that they didn't want to do, wouldn't let the Devils get set, wouldn't let them play the systems they wanted to.
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So all credit to them because you know, coming in tonight, uh, you maybe worry about Dundee only having one win on the season, tough record, but actually I think they they performed pretty admirably tonight.
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Yeah, and I I certainly don't think that uh that's a team there in Dundee that's um gonna struggle to pick up wins once they get into to a rhythm.
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I I get a sense that you know they're a very new team, they haven't really got a lot of legacy guys even from from previous Dundee teams.
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So this is a total fresh start, and I think that does take time to come in.
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But I always look and see what what is the effort from the team, you know, is are you blocking shots?
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Are you going into those dirty areas?
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Are you doing all you can?
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Like I said, the stick D Del tonight was fantastic.
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Every time the Devils had a sniff of something, there'd be a stick in the lane, there'd be something there, there'd be the assignments were just so spot on.
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So I don't worry uh uh about Dundee.
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I I think that that that's a group they that's committed to the cause.
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Yeah, for the Devils, you know, they stuck with it long enough, they get a goal through Nick Wells, really well taken goal by them, and then of course, in the end, it's the it's the two as the game goes on, one on the power play and one into the empty net.
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And yeah, I mean maybe they didn't test the stars as much as they would have wanted to going forward, but they they they get three goals on the night.
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And uh Ronnie Brandt seems to be uh really in this uh vein of form where he's picking up that pack in the slot and just a little nudge to the right in with to someone in space.
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And uh, you know, considering the goal scoring form uh he's been in uh the last year or so, um, to be that unselfish, I think shows you know the maturity in the in his game, Riley Brandt.
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And there's a it was an important goal because if we had gone into the end of the second without that, I think the crowd start getting nervous and start getting frustrated, and then I think you start to make mistakes and force in plays a bit more than maybe we were.
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Yeah, you could you I think you could see that forcing of the play starting to come, and I think the devils were starting to feel it, but um, you know, the goal goes in, there's there's relief around the room, and I think actually a really nice moment was his celebration, Nick Welsh as well, you know, holds the badge, it's obviously the original club badge as well, and and looks up to the area where all the legends are sitting on on the night and enjoying.
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So uh yeah, it almost took that weight off everyone's shoulders.
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And and I think the devils actually they'd been good up until that point in the second period, but once that went in, it was a lot more freeing for them, I thought.
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Yeah, it was.
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I think I think you referenced it uh on Connor that they started stopped gripping the stick so tight, and the natural game started to come through.
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And then you saw then in the third period where we started to do things that forced errors in Dundee.
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Tom Caron driving the net and they couldn't handle him because of how strong he is, how fast he is.
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They take that penalty, it's the only penalty they take all night.
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And Josh McDonald, who was really annoyed at this point in the in the game with Brand, um you know rips it, doesn't he?
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He absolutely rips it, and uh, you know, it's one of those things where his stick was just imbued with his anger, wasn't it?
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It was just absolutely all of that frustration coming out.
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Um, really, really important goal, and the devils did deserve the victory tonight.
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And I was proud of how we stuck to our assignment and kept believing in what we were doing to get through uh tonight.
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But I would like going forward just to see a few less hot goalies come into the building and a few more shots go past.
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Um, but we've got a hot goalie, so uh that's always good.
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We do indeed.
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Let's touch on Ben Bounds, 37th shutout in Devil's College.
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You know, if there was going to be a night to add to the history that you've put to that club in Ben Bounds tonight, was it?
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It was, and it's amazing to me that Bounds has this record and this legacy at the Devils, and you know, this this winning mentality when I think about how many good goalies we've had over 40 years: Stevie Lyle, Derek Olofsky, Frank Caprice, Jason Wood, Jeff Smith, uh Peter Aubrey, Philosophie.
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I apologize to anyone I'm leaving out.
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Uh, you know, Stevie Lyle was uh here tonight if I had mentioned him already.
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But the fact that Ben Bounds is the top of that pile just shows you what a player he is and what you know uh a history he's forged within the devils for 40 years.
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He'll be he's a hall of famer for sure uh going forward, and we've been so so lucky to have him.
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We have indeed.
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I caught up with him after the man of the match performance.
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Ben Ban's Man of the Match Performance, shut out.
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What do you make of that?
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Yeah, no, it's uh it's always nice to get a shot out.
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Um, don't matter how old you are or how many you got now, it's it's always nice, and I think even what everyone uh gets more special every time.
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It's nice to embrace it.
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Uh, like I said, now I'm getting older.
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You don't know how much uh how much longer you're gonna get to do this for, so it was nice to uh get that.
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The guys were awesome in front and uh yeah, enjoyed it.
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Historic night for the club, obviously, with the 40th anniversary, and you get your 37.
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There's another little bit of the devil's history.
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Does it do you do you look at it that way?
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Do you appreciate the fact that you're making history as the club is as well?
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Yeah, um, yeah, it was it's kind of a nice night to do that on to have been a part of this franchise for uh as long as you haven't been lucky enough to be a big part of it.
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Uh it's been all a very special journey.
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It's been a fun journey, and like I said, to commemorate the 40th anniversary and seeing all the guys back that I played with, the guys that created this franchise and Dynasty, um it were kind of it was special to get to play in front of them as well.
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And it was a game that was maybe a little bit frustrating at times, levels, couldn't quite get that second on the ball, but in the end, you got it, and it was just about sticking with it tonight.
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Yeah, I thought we had a bit of a slow and a bit of a sloppy first, but I mean uh I think that always happens when you have ceremonies like that before a game, and uh you got to honor what's happened in the in the past.
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I mean, that's a big part of this club's history, right?
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Uh but it doesn't matter when it is, I think guys uh guys get a bit emotional watching that kind of stuff.
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I know I definitely do, and then you go out and you've got to come back down to Earth.
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And I thought we did well to weather that first period.
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Like I said, we'd have come out a bit too slow, and uh second period, third period.
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I thought we were really good, and the third period uh was very clinical defensively as well as offensively.
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You got your chance to do the bamboo with your old mate Joey Hiddad as well.
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Yeah, I didn't give him a choice on that.
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We're nice to get Steve on there as well.
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I mean, Steve, let's let's be honest, like Steve's been a big part of my uh career here.
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Him and Kim and his family have been absolutely awesome to me.
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So it's whenever they're in town, it's always nice to have them on the ice for me and to see Chef back.
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It's been a few years since I last saw him, and obviously uh he's not been a part of this club since pre-COVID, and uh he's he's one of the best guys I've ever played with, both on the ice and off the ice.
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Absolutely love him to bits.
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So I wouldn't really give him an option to uh miss out on that.
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I thought it'd embarrass him.
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Big thanks to Bouncey, and uh it was nice at the end as well.
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You know, he he spoke he spoken about it in that interview, uh, you know, getting that wave with with Joey Haddad and with Steve King, two guys who were obviously massive for FaceTime in Cardiff.
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Yeah, it's uh it's been uh quite a ride, hasn't it?
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That that tonight is what struck me, really, is seeing the pockets of teams that that were together.
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And you know, we had shots tonight where you know Andrew Hawtham, uh Joey Haddad, Jake Morissette are the uh sharing base together and these guys on the ice who played with them, Mark Richardson and uh and Bounsey and Fawns, and you know, it just it's amazing how quickly sometimes it goes past within a blink of an eye with 40 years and seeing all of the guys who've contributed tonight.
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The turnout from the legends was fantastic.
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Uh, it it just goes to show what the club means to them as much as what they have meant to the club uh and us as fans.
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Uh, a really special night, and that is of course why Neil Francis isn't on debrief tonight.
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He is uh sharing locker room stories with uh his friends.
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Yeah, we've given him the night off, and I think it's well earned judging by how much work he's put in over the past.
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Just quickly ahead of tomorrow now.
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Belfast come in, and and you know, the Devils will enjoy this win, and then they've enjoyed obviously the night and the occasion and the celebration, but tomorrow is back to normal, basically.
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It is a run-of-the-mill game, you don't expect any different.
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There, of course, there will be people in the building watching like the owners and former players, but it's just straight back to face off at five, you get going, you've got to start on time against the Giants.
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Yeah, there can be uh no uh time off tonight.
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And you know, uh in many ways, you would have loved to have had a game tonight where you rush to a four-goal lead at the end of the second period and maybe consider some energy, but the Motor Pont Elite League isn't like that anymore.
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Uh, you simply don't get uh that kind of uh time off, or you don't get those blowouts anymore.
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I mean, just look at what well you do, but it was in five tonight, uh, which uh you know hats off to them three three in a row.
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Um, but tomorrow is a is a huge game because we have as a club have been very clear about what our ambitions are this year, um, and you know, the last few years it has been very clear who the top dog is uh in this in this league.
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Um winning league titles for fun, churning churning it out.
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Adam Keefe has got the Belfast Giants, you know, finely tuned title winning machine.
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Uh, but we want to take that spot.
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But if you want to take that spot, you have to take it on the ice.
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So uh what a way to round off the the 40th anniversary weekend uh tomorrow.
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It's gotta be one.
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Uh I dare say, and I may curse it, will be far more entertaining than tonight because I think it'll be a bit more open and I think there'll be a few more chances.
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But it's the toughest test that we've had uh thus far, and I'm intrigued to see how we match up to it.
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If you want to beat the champs, you've got to knock them out.
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The devils take on the giants tomorrow, five o'clock face off.
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If you're not joining us at the rent, we'll be on the stream.
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If I'll be back with us, we hope, depending on how sore his head is in the morning.
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And uh yeah, we'll have debrief and then insider in the week.
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So thank you very much for listening once again.
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Happy birthday, Cardiff Devils.
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