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00:00:02.319My God, appreciate you for coming out, man.
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00:00:03.759It's fun.
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00:00:05.919It's always good coming back out to DC, you know?
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00:00:07.519Oh yeah.
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00:00:12.240I know you started uh streaming and stuff right after uh right after college.
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00:00:14.800I wanted to know what made you want to start streaming.
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00:00:19.280Yeah, so um really it's like it really goes all the way back to high school.
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00:00:22.399Um I used to make like little I used to play basketball.
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00:00:26.719Um used to be very athletic, so I used to make little like highlight tapes of myself.
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00:00:32.079Um my sister, she used to go to like all the games, she records, um, gets what she can get.
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00:00:37.759And then um I used to go to uh iMovie, just like some music in the background, do some little effects.
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00:00:41.759Um so that's kind of how like the whole like video stuff started.
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00:00:45.759Um and then going to college, my major was TV and film.
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00:00:50.240Um and I like to play the game.
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00:00:53.920And then when COVID came around, um it's a perfect opportunity.
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00:00:56.560So like, and that's all me and my homies did.
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00:01:00.479We just played the game um right after class or you know, late at night.
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00:01:08.959So I kind of just combined, you know, what I like to do in school and like just playing the game, put it together, and it just became like a new passion for me.
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00:01:17.359And I started making little videos here and there, and then my friends were the ones to tell me to like, yo, you should like post it on YouTube because this is low-key kind of funny.
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00:01:24.079And then that's when like the whole like live streaming era kind of just like boomed.
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00:01:30.879Well, love to see it, love to see it.
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00:01:35.040That you combine your passion of video games and content.
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00:01:40.319Like, I love seeing that people take uh what you call non-traditional routes, you know what I'm saying?
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00:01:50.319Because everybody like, okay, Corporate, you go to hours, you get a job, but it's like it's always refreshing to hear people take their passion and like actually pursue it and stay with it.
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00:01:51.120You know what I mean?
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00:01:56.560Because you've been doing this since like what 2022, 2020 probably like 2022, 2023, I think.
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00:01:57.439Yeah, okay, cool.
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00:02:01.599And what's kept you going like all this time through through all the ups and downs?
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00:02:07.040Honestly, it's it's it's really because I only did it for because it was really fun.
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00:02:08.080Um, it was fun for me.
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00:02:11.280Like I said, I get to combine two two of my passions.
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00:02:14.080Um, and I like to see other people's reactions.
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00:02:19.520Um I can really care less if I get like two views every single time if I post a video.
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00:02:24.560As long as I can like make my sister laugh or like my homies react to it, I'm good, you know?
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00:02:30.159Um But what's kept me going is like seeing seeing what I can get out of it really.
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00:02:37.439Um like I can build a really strong community, uh, meet like a lot of people who also do it, and like we could like support each other.
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00:02:45.360Um is really seeing how far I can go with it and the stuff I can build off of it.
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00:02:48.080Um like you see some of like the big content creators now.
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00:02:51.599Um Kai Snap, he did like a whole Shima University.
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00:02:59.520Um there's like some other people who's like hosting like giveaways back at their hometowns and stuff, and that's just like you know, like the max you can go.
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00:03:00.159You know what I'm saying?
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00:03:03.759It can because you used to have like rappers doing all this crazy stuff.
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00:03:05.360Now it's like anybody could do it.
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00:03:05.840Exactly.
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00:03:09.919Like all you need is a camera and just press record and you never know where it can take you.
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00:03:13.280Well, I love that you say that because I like I tell people that all the time.
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00:03:19.280Like, if you want to like get in the content game, if you got a phone, you can make content, bro.
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00:03:33.439Like a lot of people get get caught up in, and this might have been you uh at first, like where it's like you are nervous about posting something because you feel like it's not perfect, and you gotta get the perfect audio or the perfect edit and shit like that.
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00:03:40.400And then, you know, something that you recorded, you know, a month ago, two months ago keeps getting delayed because of that perfectionism.
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00:03:42.000Has that ever happened to you?
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00:03:44.560Uh yeah, I would say so.
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00:03:51.840Um, but very like minimally, um, because when I first started, it was like, you know, having fun.
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00:04:09.199And then like I started like studying like a lot, like on YouTube, like how to get your first 1,000 subscribers, how to get 10,000 views, and it kind of just became like like very statistical and like just trying to get to a certain point for me to feel appeased, you know.
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00:04:18.639Um, so I kind of I kind of started taking everything very serious and trying to be perfect in this aspect and make sure I edit this right and I gotta get this out on time.
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00:04:23.519Um, so I kind of dialed back on that because it started to like take away like the fun aspect.
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00:04:28.000Um, because once it starts to feel like like work, it's like fun.
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00:04:40.399If you're ever gonna start content, um, it's definitely something that you're gonna come across and it's just really up to you if you if you only if you want to do it for fun or just wanna make this your job and just try to make everything perfect, you know?
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00:04:43.920What's the most unhinged thing that's ever happened on one of your streams?
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00:04:46.800Well, first I'm gonna say this AI is is getting out of control.
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00:04:58.639I don't know, I don't know where these little kids and their parents, I don't know what these parents are letting these kids do with their phones, but they will make like they'll make like little like AI edits of me.
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00:05:09.040Like sometimes it'll make me like old or like they put like woman's breasts on me or something, or like it's it's it's getting out of control, it's getting very annoying.
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00:05:12.000Um, but it's it makes people laugh.
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00:05:15.040Um that's what people that's what people watch when I post it.
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00:05:19.279Um I get I do get it irritated, but it's part of the game.
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00:05:21.120We're gonna have you're gonna have a lot of trolls.
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00:05:27.759Um I'll probably say one of one of the craziest things is when I went live on TikTok, right?
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00:05:36.079And usually you can sometimes you can have like people go live with you, like they can request to go live with you, and they'll be like at the top of the list, right?
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00:05:44.240And there's this, there's this one guy who just he makes like a random account every single time, and he's just like waiting in the dark with the lights off.
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00:05:52.000I'm like, what the f what is he doing?
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00:05:59.199Like, like he's like he was like waiting the entire time just for me to accept his live, turn the lights on, and it's yeah, bro.
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00:06:01.439It's that's probably the wildest thing.
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00:06:05.439But like a flip out of that and make the shit go viral?
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00:06:06.639Nah, I I couldn't do that.
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00:06:09.279I mean, I s I should have, but it's nah.
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00:06:10.639Nah, not your brain?
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00:06:11.759Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
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00:06:15.040I mean, I have like a whole lot of more wild stuff, but that was that was a little OD.
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00:06:16.720Yeah, bro.
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00:06:18.480People on the internet be weird, man.
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00:06:21.199Like, yeah.
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00:06:28.160You gotta, especially like as you climb the ranks, like you you really never know like who's watching.
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00:06:36.480I don't even understand like my own reach because like I don't have like I'm not like uh I'm not a list or anything or or whatnot, but I'd be very surprised.
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00:06:42.319Like, literally over the past week, I had two people like that I like I that I went to Howard with.
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00:06:45.920I saw him last night.
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00:06:48.480I'm like, huh?
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00:06:50.160It's like you never know who's watching.
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00:06:52.800Like your reach is way more than what you think it is.
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00:07:05.120Which is a good thing and a bad thing because it's like, oh, you're you know doing way better than you think, but also it's like, oh shit, like you gonna you're gonna have to, you know what I'm saying, like just be aware.
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00:07:05.839You know what I'm saying?
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00:07:12.000There's definitely trolls, there's people that might try and do something to, but like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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00:07:19.519And then have you ever thought about doing like IRL streams or like inner like street interviews and shit like that?
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00:07:20.560Yeah, actually.
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00:07:22.720Um, I plan on doing something this summer.
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00:07:23.920Um sure.
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00:07:29.120Yeah, I was I really want to, I feel like this is like the year, this is like the summer for like side quests.
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00:07:30.000I don't know, I just feel it.
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00:07:31.360I see a lot of memes about it.
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00:07:40.800Yeah, um, so I kind of like booked a lot of stuff with my homies, like um going on like a camping or um going to like an amusement park or something.
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00:07:44.079Um I do plan on doing something for 4th of July.
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00:07:52.639Plan on getting like like have the camera, I'm gonna have like a camera guy with me, just like record the whole day, go to like the fireworks store, get like the craziest fireworks.
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00:07:54.399Um I just like having fun, honestly.
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00:07:56.160I just like having fun doing stupid shit.
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00:07:58.879Um because like because at the end of the day, I'm a kid at heart.
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00:08:04.319Um, so yeah, I'm a trying to do something exciting for 4th of July, IRL.
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00:08:08.079Um then after that, wherever it takes me, um I'm just roll with it.
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00:08:09.199Nice dog, nice.
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00:08:15.439I always thought about like, man, like part of me wants to get it to the IRL game, like as a side quest though.
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00:08:23.040Like, I'm not trying to be like, okay, let me make it off of like these uh these interviews, but just to be awesome, like fuck it.
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00:08:25.199Like, let's see if I can get like a cool clip or whatever.
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00:08:26.079Right, yeah, exactly.
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00:08:26.959You know what I mean?
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00:08:28.800So so that that's cool.
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00:08:32.879What about uh so you graduated from Howard 2022, man?
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00:08:37.200Like as you look back at your your time there, what was one of your favorite memories?
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00:08:44.720So my freshman year, I was just getting like acquainted with everybody, um, just like learning where everything's at, what to do.
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00:08:48.879Um and it didn't really like pan out the way I wanted to.
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00:08:51.679So I met like my friend group sophomore year.
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00:08:58.720And one of my favorite moments was the first day when I met them, um, is one of my homies, Brandon.
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00:09:03.440And we used to hoop all the time freshman year, but again, I didn't know anybody, I didn't even know him.
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00:09:08.240And I just like he randomly hit me up first day sophomore year, said, Yo, I remember you from last year, let's hang out.
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00:09:09.519I'm like, okay, cool.
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00:09:11.279And then I met all of his homies.
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00:09:13.200It was like three in the morning.
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00:09:22.559We over here at uh Howard, China, getting some chicken at the corner, and I'm chopping it up with like all these, all these like guys are like my close friends now.
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00:09:29.200Um that's probably like one of the best nights for me that I can remember because that's kind of where like everything started.
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00:09:39.360Um and honestly, if I had never met those guys, honestly, if I never went to Howard in general, I don't think I'd be streaming because that's kind of that's kind of how it started.
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00:09:41.200I playing the, I started playing the games with them.
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00:09:44.559I started like they started watching me and saying like I should post.
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00:09:48.559Um, so yeah, I'll say that night, because that's kind of how everything started.
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00:09:49.600Yeah, okay.
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00:09:53.039So it wasn't necessarily like anything crazy happening.
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00:10:01.120You just look back and it's like, damn, this was really like an inflection point to where like if I if he never hit me up to hang out, like who knows what what would have happened.
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00:10:02.799Yeah, definitely, definitely.
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00:10:07.360I would say that's probably the most memorable, probably like the craziest thing.
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00:10:13.679Craziest thing is probably when I went to the I went to a uh house party for the first time.
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00:10:15.519And what year was this?
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00:10:17.039Uh sophomore year.
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00:10:19.759And he didn't go to no house parties or freshman year?
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00:10:20.960I did.
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00:10:24.639I went to parties, but it wasn't like it wasn't house parties.
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00:10:26.480It was more like in the club, downtown DC.
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00:10:33.279Um but like sophomore year, like that's when like my homies, they kind of knew like where to go, like all the all the cool spots and like tickets and stuff.
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00:10:38.240Um, so I went to my first house party and you know, I didn't, I didn't really know what to spec.
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00:10:40.799I thought it was gonna be like on some Project X shit, you know?
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00:10:45.679But you know, it was this whole bunch of niggas just like, you know, saying chopping it up, like drinking and smoking.
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00:10:47.759I'm like, okay, this is this is cool, you know?
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00:10:50.720And then like later on the night, it started getting mad hot.
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00:10:57.679We shoulder to shoulder at everybody, and we hear like like two niggas in the corner like arguing.
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00:11:00.000And then we look over the IBS cools, whatever, you know.
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00:11:02.799Again, this is my first time at a house party, so I didn't really know what that meant.
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00:11:05.039One of my other homies, like, yeah, it's time to go.
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00:11:06.480Like, like, what do you mean it's time to go?
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00:11:07.840I said, look at them, like they arguing.
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00:11:09.039I was like, okay, cool.
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00:11:16.879And then I I don't know, I don't know if I seen this right, but I seen, I seen, I seen one of the homies, he started reaching under the shirt.
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00:11:20.240And then one of my homies like pulled me by my arms and it's time to go.
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00:11:22.480And then some one girl started screaming.
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00:11:24.240That kind of set off the entire party.
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00:11:26.879Everybody else started screaming, everybody started scrambling.
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00:11:28.639I'm I'm drunk, by the way.
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00:11:31.200So I'm over here like, okay, what's going on?
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00:11:32.960So I'm like, okay, what's going on?
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00:11:34.480What's going on?
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00:11:36.639I'm like, bro, like, this is my first time.
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00:11:37.600This is supposed to happen.
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00:11:41.759Like, I thought somebody started breakdancing on the floor and shit, but like, no, everybody's running.
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00:11:44.559Uh, no shots went off, surprisingly.
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00:11:49.120But it's it was that was probably the craziest memorable thing.
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00:11:51.919Yeah, that was my first house party experience, man.
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00:11:54.320Man, you're funny as shit.
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00:11:56.240You saw niggas arguing, you was like, mm-hmm.
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00:11:57.519Ain't got shit to do with me.
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00:12:00.240I'm still vibing and dancing and drinking and shit.
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00:12:02.320Like, bro, it's hey man.
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00:12:03.200Oh man, yeah.
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00:12:05.440However, house parties, those were the time, man.
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00:12:06.480Those was a time.
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00:12:09.679A lot of a lot of my neos now tell me that they don't even do that no more.
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00:12:10.080Oh, yeah.
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00:12:25.679And I'm just like, damn, y'all don't go to house parties, y'all, y'all have no idea what it's like to pull up in the Uber fucking five, six deep in the X because niggas was all broke to be in that sweaty, be in that sweaty house party, the wall, the wall.
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00:12:27.840When I say sweaty, I'm talking about the wall sweat.
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00:12:29.279Yeah, like you know what I mean?
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00:12:31.200Like, ah damn.
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00:12:33.759Oh man, that's a that's so funny, bro.
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00:12:34.879That's so funny.
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00:12:36.240Yeah.
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00:12:42.879And so as a streamer, like, do you feel the pressure to have to like constantly like provide like new content?
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00:12:46.639Like, ah damn, I gotta get up and sell shape.
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00:12:50.240Um, definitely, because burnout definitely exists.
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00:12:55.840So I try my best to do, I try my best to keep myself like very level headed.
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00:13:01.919Um, because like there could be something that's like very trending out right now, and I just feel like well, I gotta get on that, you know what I'm saying?
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00:13:03.519Cause people will watch this.
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00:13:13.679Um But I try to like, you know, maintain like a like a balance because I don't wanna, you know, like I said, burn myself out and try to keep up with everything.
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00:13:18.960I really just like being myself, doing like what I doing like what I like to do and just adding my personality, you know.
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00:13:28.720If people fuck with me for me, then that's how I know, like, okay, this is this is just what I'm gonna do, then I can just post whenever I want, not like by time schedule and what people want to see.
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00:13:40.080Um but some days I do feel the pressure because I think the longest I ever went without posting or going live is probably like six months.
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00:13:41.600Um, and this is like a while back.
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00:13:42.480That's decent.
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00:13:43.519That's always a break.
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00:13:46.399Yeah, but sometimes you need the break, you know?
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00:13:53.440And then you know, every obviously you go through your highs and lows.
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00:13:57.360I remember we was talking, you said you was at 40 subs for three months.
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00:14:04.000What caused you to be like, you know what, I'm gonna keep going as opposed to just being like giving up?
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00:14:08.799Honestly, I would say I would say my sister.
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00:14:21.519Um as much as I can have like my own self-motivation and stuff, um my sister is like really a big component in keeping me like level-headed and going.
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00:14:23.600Um, and she's very honest too.
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00:14:33.840Um, because she would tell me straight up, like, this isn't funny, this is corny, this is cringy, or I like this, you should keep doing it, even though you don't like she's very helpful in a way that I didn't really expect.
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00:14:38.000Um and even if it's something bad, I'd rather hear it from her than anybody else.
00:14:38.080 -->
00:14:39.679You know, she's being straight up with me.
00:14:39.919 -->
00:14:48.320Um, and yeah, I just forever, if I ever get big and like I make it, that's gonna be like a like a thing I always remember.
00:14:48.559 -->
00:14:52.159Like the time I was like at 40 subs and I was just stuck there for like so long.
00:14:52.799 -->
00:14:59.360And just always reminding myself back on those times, like stay humble because you worked hard for this.
00:14:59.600 -->
00:15:19.360Um but yeah, it's uh it's definitely a uh moment to remember because um again, I when you first start out, you think like, oh, I'm gonna get 200 subs off the first day, but no, like when you first start, you gotta be patient because you know, I mean, if anything, you gotta start somewhere.
00:15:19.440 -->
00:15:20.000You know what I'm saying?
00:15:20.080 -->
00:15:20.799You gotta start somewhere.
00:15:20.960 -->
00:15:22.639All the big creators, they all started at zero.
00:15:22.799 -->
00:15:23.679Yeah, everybody started at zero.
00:15:23.919 -->
00:15:24.159Exactly.
00:15:24.240 -->
00:15:25.360So beast, bro.
00:15:25.679 -->
00:15:27.440That's also another thing that kind of kept me going.
00:15:27.519 -->
00:15:31.120And um, yeah, I'll just say my sister, she really helps me a lot.
00:15:31.360 -->
00:15:32.559Okay, that's dope, bro.
00:15:32.879 -->
00:15:35.039Glad you have that so good support system.
00:15:35.200 -->
00:15:36.639So when it comes to streaming, right?
00:15:36.799 -->
00:15:44.159And you we're talking about starting from zero, how does that even how does one go from like zero to like like 10 in streaming?
00:15:44.320 -->
00:15:48.960Because if I have no, in my head, I have no audience, I hit live and no one's there.
00:15:49.039 -->
00:15:50.879So do I just sit then, I just talk to myself?
00:15:51.039 -->
00:15:53.600Like, how do you grow as a streamer?
00:15:53.919 -->
00:16:02.399Honestly, I think when you first start out, you kind of have to like, even if you have one person watching you, you kind of have to like talk as if you have a hundred people watching.
00:16:02.720 -->
00:16:06.960Because that's how that's how you really get used to like just the game in general.
00:16:07.039 -->
00:16:09.679Because once you get like that first, because it can happen at any time.
00:16:09.840 -->
00:16:13.279Once you get like that first 20 view stream, you're gonna start panicking.
00:16:13.360 -->
00:16:15.679You're gonna start like, like, oh, what should I do?
00:16:15.840 -->
00:16:16.159You know?
00:16:16.320 -->
00:16:20.399Um, but yeah, I would just say like keep them staying on.
00:16:20.559 -->
00:16:23.519It's I just say be yourself.
00:16:23.600 -->
00:16:27.200I don't want to say like start doing certain things because you're not really being yourself.
00:16:27.679 -->
00:16:31.200Um and like I said, if people fuck with you, they're gonna watch you, you know?
00:16:31.360 -->
00:16:34.799Um but usually what I do, I like promo myself on Instagram.
00:16:34.879 -->
00:16:37.279I have a homie who does like he does like digital art.
00:16:37.440 -->
00:16:41.039He makes me like little posters and stuff of like if I'm doing this and doing that.
00:16:41.279 -->
00:16:47.440Um post promo myself on my Instagram story, post on Twitter, TikTok, yo, I'm going live at this time.
00:16:47.600 -->
00:16:57.200And once I'm there, it's like, you know, I try to I try to fulfill the promise that I said like in the promo or like or in this clip saying like, oh, I'm gonna do this.
00:16:57.360 -->
00:17:03.120And then, you know, most people, most people want that need and you do it, they're like, okay, that was funny.
00:17:03.200 -->
00:17:04.640I want to stay, I wanna keep watching.
00:17:05.119 -->
00:17:08.000Um, so it really is like just a want and need, really.
00:17:08.880 -->
00:17:09.200Okay.
00:17:09.920 -->
00:17:14.000And you're not streaming on Twitch, are you?
00:17:14.240 -->
00:17:14.880Nah, nah.
00:17:15.119 -->
00:17:15.759That's so crazy.
00:17:15.839 -->
00:17:17.759Can you explain why you're not streaming on Twitch?
00:17:17.920 -->
00:17:20.319So it's I was just talking to my homie about this too.
00:17:20.559 -->
00:17:26.240Um, I kind of when I first started, I was posting like faceless gaming videos on YouTube.
00:17:26.400 -->
00:17:26.799Right.
00:17:27.119 -->
00:17:31.279And um that's kind of how like I built my audience there.
00:17:31.440 -->
00:17:32.640And then I started streaming.
00:17:32.880 -->
00:17:34.079Did you have commentary over it too?
00:17:34.640 -->
00:17:35.039Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:35.119 -->
00:17:39.759I was I was just talking, I just didn't have a face scan then when I first started, and then um started going live there.
00:17:39.920 -->
00:17:46.880So I kind of just thought like, okay, if I have all my audience here, you know, why migrate over here, over to Twitch?
00:17:47.039 -->
00:17:52.079And then I think about like how Twitch is like really like booming right now, so I might as well.
00:17:52.319 -->
00:18:07.039Um, but it's it's it's kind of hard to like like transfer everything that you had in one spot to another because not everybody's gonna go there or um you know, anything can happen really, but um that's where everything's at.
00:18:07.119 -->
00:18:09.279So I can meet a lot of new people on Twitch.
00:18:09.359 -->
00:18:11.119Um it's gonna happen sooner or later.
00:18:11.200 -->
00:18:12.400I just haven't got to it.
00:18:12.720 -->
00:18:19.680But like there's a way, ain't there a way for you to like stream on like all platforms at once, like YouTube, Twitch?
00:18:19.920 -->
00:18:25.119Like, so why don't you just make an account for Twitch and then just stream there and then nobody watches, who cares, like your other audiences.
00:18:25.519 -->
00:18:25.680Right.
00:18:25.759 -->
00:18:27.680I do have a Twitch account.
00:18:27.839 -->
00:18:32.319Um I just I just never stream there, but um, yeah, you can like dual stream.
00:18:32.559 -->
00:18:36.079Um I kind of don't know how to do that yet, but I'm looking it up.
00:18:36.160 -->
00:18:37.279Uh again, I was just talking about.
00:18:38.720 -->
00:18:41.440Yeah, I was just talking to my homie about this too, like a couple days ago.
00:18:41.599 -->
00:18:43.920Um, but yeah, it's it's a process.
00:18:44.000 -->
00:18:48.079I'm gonna do my research on it and it's gonna happen then.
00:18:48.319 -->
00:18:48.400Okay.
00:18:48.640 -->
00:18:50.319Where's the majority of your audience uh?
00:18:50.880 -->
00:18:52.559Um TikTok and YouTube.
00:18:53.200 -->
00:18:56.400Um some days I stream TikTok, some days I stream YouTube.
00:18:56.799 -->
00:19:08.400Um I have like a little like uh Google Drive link where like people can like submit like edits of me or just like funny stuff or just like story times and have that on YouTube, um, have that on my TikTok bio too.
00:19:08.640 -->
00:19:11.279Um so it's kind of heavy TikTok and YouTube.
00:19:11.680 -->
00:19:11.920Okay.
00:19:12.079 -->
00:19:16.400And then how big do clips play a part in your growth?
00:19:17.599 -->
00:19:26.960Um if if anything, if anybody's just trying to start, I would say just just stream to get clips because that's kind of how everything's gonna go.
00:19:27.119 -->
00:19:28.640That's the era that we're in right now.
00:19:28.880 -->
00:19:30.960It's just, you know, you post something, exactly.
00:19:31.119 -->
00:19:32.960You post something on TikTok, people like it.
00:19:33.440 -->
00:19:35.440They might you might just get a follow.
00:19:35.599 -->
00:19:41.680Or even better, you get a follow and somebody goes to your uh your Twitch or your YouTube and subscribe to you there.
00:19:41.839 -->
00:19:45.039Um But clips is that's that's the era we're in right now.
00:19:45.119 -->
00:19:51.759So um I would just say when you first start out, don't stream and expect to get 10 viewers.
00:19:51.920 -->
00:19:56.640Just stream, even you have even if you have zero people, stream to get clips, clip farm if you have to.
00:19:57.279 -->
00:20:00.079Even if it's cringy or corny, just post that shit.
00:20:00.240 -->
00:20:00.480Exactly.
00:20:00.559 -->
00:20:02.880Because you gotta get some momentum somewhere.
00:20:03.119 -->
00:20:04.160Oh yeah.
00:20:04.480 -->
00:20:07.839And then how do you are you thinking about monetization?
00:20:07.920 -->
00:20:10.480Do you plan on turning this into like a real business?
00:20:10.640 -->
00:20:12.640Like how far how far do you want to take this?
00:20:13.920 -->
00:20:17.519Honestly, yeah, I think that's anybody's goal, you know?
00:20:17.680 -->
00:20:20.000Um, what to do with it or after it.
00:20:20.319 -->
00:20:23.839Um again, when I went to school, I went for TP and film.
00:20:24.240 -->
00:20:26.319And I made like little short films and stuff.
00:20:26.480 -->
00:20:32.400Um my end goal is really to like my own, to make my own film.
00:20:33.119 -->
00:20:49.839And, you know, if and when I start earning, you know, some some money off the content I do, like later on and I get bigger, I can start like investing like into like a little short film I want to do, or get like a camera crew, or just like a whole bunch of stuff, or get like my own studio or something.
00:20:50.559 -->
00:20:53.680Um but yeah, that's kind of like what I want to do with it.
00:20:54.480 -->
00:20:56.079Okay, that's dope, too.
00:20:56.240 -->
00:20:58.240Alright, so I want you to finish my sentence.
00:20:58.400 -->
00:20:58.720Okay.
00:20:59.119 -->
00:21:03.839People think streaming is easy until they realize it's not.
00:21:05.279 -->
00:21:06.160It's just that simple.
00:21:06.240 -->
00:21:07.279It's not easy.
00:21:08.720 -->
00:21:09.519Oh shit.
00:21:09.839 -->
00:21:12.880What would you say is the hardest part about starting from zero?
00:21:14.079 -->
00:21:17.200Hardest part is um to not compare yourself.
00:21:18.319 -->
00:21:18.480Really?
00:21:18.640 -->
00:21:30.000Yeah, because it it's because you can you can say that, you know, saying like, oh, I'm not gonna look at other people's stuff, but like you see somebody that's probably doing the exact same that you're doing, and they're doing way better than you.
00:21:30.079 -->
00:21:33.119And that will get to your head uh very heavily.
00:21:33.359 -->
00:21:34.480So yeah, yeah.
00:21:34.799 -->
00:21:50.000No, I feel that sometimes like I there I catch myself comparing myself to other people who got their own podcast or on my same age, and you know, some of them are further along, and I'm just like, and I be seeing some of the guests that they be bringing on.
00:21:50.079 -->
00:21:51.759I'm like, damn, like how did they get that?
00:21:51.920 -->
00:21:56.079And like part of me just like realizes like just run your own race.
00:21:56.160 -->
00:21:56.720You know what I mean?
00:21:57.359 -->
00:21:59.359You don't gotta you don't gotta compare yourself.
00:22:00.160 -->
00:22:02.400Like you're one-on-one for real.
00:22:02.480 -->
00:22:03.680Like everybody's one-on-one.
00:22:04.079 -->
00:22:17.359Because at the end of the day, especially in this content game, or especially if you do like reactions and stuff like that, especially with pop culture and how shit is, like, how do I say this?
00:22:18.720 -->
00:22:23.119That you could get pretty much the same shit or the same review from the same creator.
00:22:23.279 -->
00:22:24.480The only difference is you.
00:22:24.640 -->
00:22:27.359Like people are watching because they want to hear like what you have to say.
00:22:27.599 -->
00:22:28.000What I mean?
00:22:28.160 -->
00:22:38.960So I always think that even though somebody might be further along or have the similar guest as you, like your personality is what they're what you're bringing to the table.
00:22:39.039 -->
00:22:40.240So that you're one of one.
00:22:40.480 -->
00:22:41.920So I always try to keep that in mind.
00:22:42.079 -->
00:22:42.559Definitely.
00:22:43.279 -->
00:22:46.640And then what's one thing that your audience doesn't know about you yet?
00:22:47.440 -->
00:22:54.319Um honestly, for majority of my audience, they don't really know my real name.
00:22:54.880 -->
00:22:56.079Your real name's not Ronnie?
00:22:56.240 -->
00:22:58.720Nah, my real name is Ronald Johnson, right?
00:22:59.279 -->
00:23:05.119But like, you know, when I set up like my TTS and like people just like, you know, they just want to like talk.
00:23:05.200 -->
00:23:10.400They always say, yo, Ron, or like, yo, Ronnie, or like call me some, like very sus or some shit.
00:23:10.480 -->
00:23:10.960I don't know.
00:23:11.200 -->
00:23:13.839But like most of them don't know my real name.
00:23:14.079 -->
00:23:18.720So it's kind of it's kind of funny, but like, it's like, dang, y'all don't really like know me for real, you know?
00:23:18.880 -->
00:23:19.759Well, I mean, sure.
00:23:19.839 -->
00:23:21.279I mean, a lot of creators go about Elliot.
00:23:21.440 -->
00:23:24.160So I never I I speck over my first and last name.
00:23:24.240 -->
00:23:24.960I was like, fuck it.
00:23:25.599 -->
00:23:27.119Maybe down the line, I'll switch it up.
00:23:27.200 -->
00:23:28.160But nah.
00:23:28.559 -->
00:23:28.720Okay.
00:23:29.200 -->
00:23:34.799And then what's the okay, so you talked about the craziest stream about letting that dude on and whatever.
00:23:34.960 -->
00:23:36.799Um, what's like the craziest like DM?
00:23:37.039 -->
00:23:44.880Craziest DM, I would probably say this happened like this happened like last year.
00:23:45.440 -->
00:23:49.680Um, there was this girl that seen that I do content, right?
00:23:50.480 -->
00:23:56.480And she kind of just assumed since I do content, I would just do any type of content.
00:23:56.799 -->
00:24:00.480So uh she said, hey, um, you want you down to collab?
00:24:01.200 -->
00:24:07.359And I looked at her page, and it's not really the content that I thought I was expecting, you know?
00:24:07.519 -->
00:24:18.400Um So she does, she did OnlyFans, but like the her her like grid, like her pictures, it didn't really look like she's posting like, you know, she at the beach or she with like her girls or something.
00:24:18.640 -->
00:24:21.440And then I went to the link and I seen the blue OF.
00:24:21.519 -->
00:24:25.200I'm like, oh no, I'm not, this is not what we doing, honey.
00:24:25.279 -->
00:24:30.880Like, we not, nah, this is I mean for most guys, they'll jump at that, you know what I'm saying?
00:24:30.960 -->
00:24:32.400They niggas gonna be niggas.
00:24:32.559 -->
00:24:34.160But like, that's not, you know what I'm saying?
00:24:34.240 -->
00:24:35.119That's not what I was expecting.
00:24:35.200 -->
00:24:37.680That's not what I was, that's not what I'm trying to get into, you know?
00:24:38.000 -->
00:24:42.640But that was probably the most, it's not really wild, but it's just what little left, you know?
00:24:42.960 -->
00:24:48.240And then, but like how I found out, um, I went to her page and I kind of just assumed that she did like that type of content.
00:24:48.400 -->
00:24:56.079And then uh she went on to uh to say, um, yeah, um you could bring uh you could bring like multiple cameras that have lighting.
00:24:56.160 -->
00:24:59.839And um what kind of what kind of lube do you want to use what kind of lube do you want to use?
00:25:00.079 -->
00:25:01.440That's what took me all the way back.
00:25:01.519 -->
00:25:05.359I'm like, like what are we what are we using lube for?
00:25:05.440 -->
00:25:08.000If we just playing if we just playing if we just playing GT.
00:25:10.400 -->
00:25:11.359What lube do you want to use?
00:25:11.599 -->
00:25:15.759Like we playing like like Fortnite and Fall Guys, like like what do we I don't know, bro.
00:25:15.839 -->
00:25:16.880That was that was a little wild.
00:25:16.960 -->
00:25:21.599But yeah, that was would you at least like do like a right like a regular collab of like playing games?
00:25:21.759 -->
00:25:22.400Oh yeah, yeah.
00:25:22.799 -->
00:25:23.839Just not with her though.
00:25:24.000 -->
00:25:24.319Oh, okay.
00:25:24.480 -->
00:25:26.400Yeah, yeah, because yeah, bro, that's yeah.
00:25:26.640 -->
00:25:27.759But that's funny.
00:25:27.920 -->
00:25:35.119Yeah, nah, that's like you said, I'm sure most guys probably would just jump out there, but yeah, you gotta always keep your brand in mind, you know what I mean?
00:25:35.359 -->
00:25:37.200I've thought it like and I've thought about it too.
00:25:37.279 -->
00:25:48.480I was like, damn, like I could bring on some girl to like, you know, do a like a podcast with who does OnlyPans, but I'm just like life for what?
00:25:48.559 -->
00:25:49.200You know what I mean?
00:25:49.359 -->
00:25:53.599Like just like for views, but it's like do I really want my name to be attached to that?
00:25:53.759 -->
00:25:54.000Exactly.
00:25:54.319 -->
00:25:54.799You feel what I mean?
00:25:54.880 -->
00:25:56.160So I don't think it's worth it.
00:25:56.400 -->
00:25:57.920So I don't think it's worth it.
00:25:58.079 -->
00:25:58.799I agree.
00:25:59.039 -->
00:25:59.440Yeah.
00:25:59.680 -->
00:26:03.759So have you ever said or done anything on stream that you wish you could take back?
00:26:05.279 -->
00:26:08.079Uh yeah, actually.
00:26:08.240 -->
00:26:10.079Um, and I still think by it to this day.
00:26:10.640 -->
00:26:17.039I was playing um, I was playing GTA with this, with this, uh actually no.
00:26:17.279 -->
00:26:21.359I was I was playing uh Among Us, this game with these little kids.
00:26:21.519 -->
00:26:24.079Um because I was just I was just on TikTok one time.
00:26:24.160 -->
00:26:25.759I wasn't even planning on streaming that night.
00:26:25.839 -->
00:26:33.920I was just on TikTok and I seen one of my mutuals, there's they was playing Among Us with like her viewers, and I just typed in the chat, like, hey, if you ever need an extra one, just let me know.
00:26:34.079 -->
00:26:35.680And she said, Yeah, you can just join it right now.
00:26:35.839 -->
00:26:36.720So I was like, okay, better.
00:26:36.799 -->
00:26:39.440So I got out of my bed, turned on my ring lights, you know what I'm saying?
00:26:39.680 -->
00:26:41.279Turn on my camera, start to stream up.
00:26:41.359 -->
00:26:46.079And I'm playing Among Us with her and like some of the her viewers, and her viewers are like these little ass kids.
00:26:46.160 -->
00:26:48.960And like me, I'm I'm very competitive.
00:26:49.119 -->
00:26:51.200I'm very like, I like to talk shit.
00:26:51.440 -->
00:26:54.240So I'm playing and like I keep dying.
00:26:54.480 -->
00:26:58.400So now I'm curse, now I'm cursing out these little kids, and I start to feel bad.
00:26:58.640 -->
00:27:01.759But like, these these are some badass little kids.
00:27:01.839 -->
00:27:16.480Like, they I don't know who their mamas is, but like they need they really need some like home training because they over here call me all types of like slurs, and like I'm like, yo, what the like I really would curse you out right now, but like that's not again, that's not really me.
00:27:16.559 -->
00:27:18.079I kind of took it a little bit too far.
00:27:18.160 -->
00:27:24.079And I was I was over here yelling, I was like raging, but it comes with us.
00:27:24.480 -->
00:27:25.839That's video game culture, man.
00:27:26.079 -->
00:27:26.160Yeah.
00:27:26.319 -->
00:27:28.160I know how that, I know how that shit go.
00:27:28.480 -->
00:27:29.279That's that's crazy.
00:27:29.359 -->
00:27:35.920No, I agree with you, but when I have kids, I gotta, I'm gonna try to keep them off the internet as long as possible until they do get home training.
00:27:36.000 -->
00:27:43.039Cause like parents giving their kids a fucking iPhone in the AI age and that's giving them free wine to be on social media.
00:27:43.119 -->
00:27:44.160Like wow.
00:27:44.559 -->
00:27:47.359I've always thought when I have kids, they I don't care.
00:27:47.440 -->
00:27:48.960They're not getting a phone until they're 13.
00:27:49.119 -->
00:27:50.960Yeah, like something like that.
00:27:51.119 -->
00:27:53.200Or shit, they get they gonna start like me.
00:27:53.279 -->
00:27:55.680You gonna have like a regular phone, you're not getting a smartphone.
00:27:55.839 -->
00:27:56.720You gonna flip shit.
00:27:56.799 -->
00:27:56.880Yeah.
00:27:57.039 -->
00:27:57.200Yeah.
00:27:57.279 -->
00:28:01.440I didn't yeah, I didn't call my first iPhone when I was a freshman in high school.
00:28:01.519 -->
00:28:02.640So I was like 14?
00:28:02.880 -->
00:28:04.640Yeah, so it's like, I don't know.
00:28:04.799 -->
00:28:05.359I agree.
00:28:06.079 -->
00:28:11.440And if streaming didn't exist tomorrow and every platform shut down, what would you be doing with your life?
00:28:11.680 -->
00:28:12.799What would I be doing?
00:28:13.039 -->
00:28:22.319Um I'll probably I probably would be trying to heavily get into like post-production work.
00:28:22.720 -->
00:28:27.200Um, because that's kind of my background when I was in college and kind of what I do now for work.
00:28:27.440 -->
00:28:40.240Um I'll heavily focus on trying to get a position or role at a at a company or production company in post-production, video editing, or um videography.
00:28:40.400 -->
00:28:45.599Um so I can always stay behind the camera or I can always stay updated with like the latest tech.
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00:28:46.079Yeah.
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00:28:48.240No, that's all that's all right.
00:28:48.480 -->
00:28:58.400And then yeah, I went to your uh YouTube that I felt for most popular, and I saw that you had like Haisanat had reacted to your uh to one of your videos.
00:28:58.480 -->
00:29:00.079You almost got on streamer you, man.
00:29:00.559 -->
00:29:02.319Yeah, it's how how was that?
00:29:02.559 -->
00:29:05.119It's definitely a moment I always think about.
00:29:05.359 -->
00:29:13.119Um because when he when he when he reacted to my stuff, I'm like, okay, this is this is serious.
00:29:13.200 -->
00:29:16.960Cause like I went back to my YouTube and like, oh, I just got like an instant 100 subs.
00:29:17.039 -->
00:29:17.920Like, this is crazy.
00:29:18.079 -->
00:29:19.519And then okay, I'm like, okay, cool.
00:29:19.599 -->
00:29:22.160He he reacted to it like all like positively.
00:29:22.240 -->
00:29:23.839And then he said, let me see if he's streaming.
00:29:24.000 -->
00:29:26.480So now I'm like, okay, let me fuck.
00:29:26.559 -->
00:29:27.359Like, I'm at work.
00:29:27.440 -->
00:29:28.559I can't, I can't do nothing.
00:29:28.640 -->
00:29:29.519I can't really get out of this.
00:29:29.680 -->
00:29:35.920I mean, I could've I could have like went live on my phone and just like just like said, yo, but like I'm at work.
00:29:36.000 -->
00:29:42.799I got like my boss over there like staring at me like he over here looking at me like I'm over here laughing because like I got Kaisen at reacting to me.
00:29:42.960 -->
00:29:45.039I don't care about whatever the fuck is going on right now.
00:29:45.599 -->
00:29:47.119But yeah, I had to keep it cool.
00:29:47.279 -->
00:29:48.880Um I couldn't do nothing about it, you know.
00:29:48.960 -->
00:29:51.680Like I say, um everything happens for a reason.
00:29:52.079 -->
00:29:53.680Um, so yeah.
00:29:54.079 -->
00:29:56.240So I mean at least you got a hundred subs out of it.
00:29:56.319 -->
00:29:57.839That's that's that's pretty tough, bro.
00:29:58.000 -->
00:30:03.440You know, you're inching up to your 1000 to hit your uh hit your monetization threshold.
00:30:03.599 -->
00:30:03.680Yeah.
00:30:05.680 -->
00:30:06.319That shit's tough.
00:30:06.400 -->
00:30:10.720Like I don't think people understand how hard it is to get a thousand subscribers.
00:30:11.039 -->
00:30:17.200Yeah, especially when especially when you post something or like you've been posting for like consistently and you haven't checked it.
00:30:17.359 -->
00:30:20.799I try not to check it because I know the numbers can really get to you.
00:30:20.960 -->
00:30:21.119Yeah.
00:30:21.279 -->
00:30:30.880Um, so I be going on like stretches where I just don't check my subs, and then it hurts when like it hurts when you check and you don't get no subs, but it hurts worse when you check and you lose like two.
00:30:31.039 -->
00:30:33.279So it's like, so you really don't fuck with me at all.
00:30:33.359 -->
00:30:34.160Alright, that's cool.
00:30:34.240 -->
00:30:34.720Yeah.
00:30:34.960 -->
00:30:40.480But yeah, it's it's it's a real it's a real challenge in like many aspects when it comes to content, John.
00:30:40.880 -->
00:30:42.079Facts, bro, facts.
00:30:42.480 -->
00:30:42.880True.
00:30:43.039 -->
00:30:45.119Well man, I appreciate you coming on the show, bruh.
00:30:45.200 -->
00:30:48.559Like before we close out, anything you want to leave the people with today?
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00:31:01.039Um, yeah, I would just say um, whatever you want to do, whether it's you want to make music or um you know try to start your own b your own business, I would just say be yourself.
00:31:01.200 -->
00:31:12.160Um and just pick God first, because when things get rough and like things look like impossible, just go to God, yo, because he helped me out in numerous of times.
00:31:12.480 -->
00:31:20.559And um one thing, one thing that I seen, um, somebody said that embarrassment is like the number one most undiscovered feeling.
00:31:20.799 -->
00:31:26.640So if you feel like a little scared or embarrassed to like put your stuff out there, just search for that feeling, you know what I'm saying?
00:31:26.720 -->
00:31:32.160Like find that, like crave that feeling because the most cringious people get money.
00:31:32.319 -->
00:31:34.960That's so that's that's that's really where it's at.
00:31:35.279 -->
00:31:36.079So for sure.
00:31:36.160 -->
00:31:38.319All right, where and what can the people find you at?
00:31:38.559 -->
00:31:42.000Um you can follow me on Instagram at woe.ronnie.
00:31:42.240 -->
00:31:45.440Um and you can subscribe to me on YouTube.
00:31:45.839 -->
00:31:47.119Woe Ronnie on YouTube.
00:31:47.519 -->
00:31:48.000Yeah.
00:31:48.319 -->
00:31:49.119Alright, for sure.
00:31:49.200 -->
00:31:51.039Appreciate you coming on the show again, man.
00:31:52.079 -->
00:31:52.640You're looking.
00:31:52.880 -->
00:31:54.640We're out on their podcast till next time.
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00:31:55.440We out.