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Speaker 1: Let's talk with Heather Dobrass starts now, well here today. Do you really need an introduction at this point? Oh?
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Speaker 2: Please don't. I can't hear anything about myself right now.
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Speaker 1: When does school start for you?
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Speaker 2: My god, the twenty ninth. Oh you still have time? Time? Yes, still have time? Not. I mean it's literally I spent four hours a day in the car with them. No longer claim I'm an absent mother. Do you know what it's like to lose that title?
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Speaker 1: I know, it's depressing. It's so funny. I'm not going to say who I ran into it, but I ran into this gal the other day at lunch. It's very famous and I haven't seen her like in person in years, and I was like, oh, hey, how are you blapa ba, Like how's your kid? She's like, oh, he's twenty six, And I'm like wow. She's like, how old are your kids? That I told her that my youngest is thirteen, she goes, wow, I'm so sorry.
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Speaker 2: I go, I know, yeah, yeah, by the way, yes, I mean, we're dealing with some serious girl drama and everything. I mean, but also it's so.
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Speaker 1: She meant that they're still at home.
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Speaker 2: By the way, well, yes, yeah, oh really yeah, an empty nest. But I had a thought about the cross house yelling that we talked about last time. Yeah, and you don't cross house yell, right, Oh I do. Oh not only do I cross house yell. I do probably the most irritating thing.
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Speaker 1: That my family despises and I can't stop doing it is that I start talking to one of them the moment they leave the room.
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Speaker 2: My thing is that I talk to myself and then I'll say something to them, so they weren't part of the first part of the conversation. Oh, I do that too, and my head we're involved in. And then also I realized after we talked last time that I start one room early. So if I just I start yelling one room early, so the bathroom will start yelling. When if I started yelling when I was in my bedroom or at the top of the stairs, they might hear me. But then the yelling starts a room early, and then it gets it's just bad. And also it's a shit show. But I realized it's too sorry prep show. It's too late for me to not be a yeller. I realized today the.
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Speaker 1: Ship has sailed.
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Speaker 2: The ship has sailed, I can't yell on it, and I'm screaming, and I.
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Speaker 1: Can't stop talking the moment, I mean, I realize I'm doing it, and I can't stop doing it. Like Terry and I do the same thing as you are, having the conversation in my head, and now I'm either irritated or excited or mid plan whenever my mouth opens, and then we'll have a full conversation. And as soon as he gets to the door, I go so now. It irritates him so badly that Terry just keeps going. So smart, so smart that tam it didn't happen. He hears it and it didn't, right, that's so smart.
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Speaker 2: I'll talk for five minutes to Todd and then he'll say, are you talking to me? And I'll be like, no, I worked it out.
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Speaker 1: We are fine.
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Speaker 2: We're fine, We're me myself high, we're fine, all three of us. We're fighting, but it's fine. You know what, don't worry about it.
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Speaker 1: What are they doing for the last week or two of summer.
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Speaker 2: They're both at school doing sports, but at different times. He okay, so school is a half hour away and he has football in the morning from ten to twelve, and she has volleyball in the afternoon from three to four thirty, so it's it's honestly, it's barbaric. It's terrible. I mean, we carbled for volleyball, but and then my son will listen to something in the car on his headphones and laugh hysterically, and then I'm like, you know what, that's rude. And sometimes I'll call him on my phone from inside the car and it'll go to voicemail and I'm just talking into the blackness, and I'm just like, you know, it's really rude that you have your you're laughing at something and you're not you're sharing, like I'm alone. And then he takes his headphones off and we sit there in silence, and I'm just like, you know what, just put them back on.
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Speaker 1: Well that's the problem. The problem, you know about you get irritated. One gets irrited. I do the same thing. That you're driving. You're exhausted and you're driving back and forth. And what's weird about the whole thing is that they want you to drive them. It's not like, you know, they don't love the car pool and they don't love if like you have a helper or an assistant or something that drives them once in a while. They they want you to drive them, but that they don't want to talk to you.
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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, So what's the point. I also, my son does not trust me with it anything. I don't remember if I was on last time when we went to Kansas.
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Speaker 1: And I got yes, we heard the dinosaur story. Okay, so then we drove to Vegas and saw the stories. But tell this story, oh my god, okay, just very quickly. So he doesn't trust me with anything. He thinks I'm an idiot.
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Speaker 2: So no matter how much I scream, Jesse, I'm really smart. I'm smart. He thinks Dad is smarter than me. He doesn't care, so she'll be a stick. But anyway, So we drive to Vegas and Todd and Phoebe are meeting us the next night, and I'm like, it'll be quicker to just drive and it'll be fine a road trip. So he's in the backseat logging paleontology effects on his laptop, thank god, with his headphones on, and I have the radio up over the navigation screen on electric car. So don't drive. You're basically driving a flashlight to Vegas. Don't do it. So stupid. So anyway, so I had the radio part up. I'm not used to using that navigation, and I make one I get on one wrong freeway and I realize I go for two hours in the wrong direction. So anyway, so then I'm like covering, covering. He doesn't notice. And then we go and we charge the car twice. So we're driving and he finishes the Mesozoic era and he looks up and I'm like a lot of fires today, a lot of road closures, a lot of you know, a lot of traffic, mean, while the road's like wide open. But we go to the place we charge the car. I had to charge it again, and I realized it had not charged the first few times, the first two times because it's not free. So I wasn't used to having the app on the phone. It was just it was just I had to just, oh my god, that's I made one wrong turn. But it's your fault. I said, I was thinking about you, and you know how this year is going.
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Speaker 1: To practice me. You were on your headsets. No one was talking.
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Speaker 2: But then we saw But then when I went into the the thing, the gas station or whatever it was, the store, I saw the biggest Adirondack chair.
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Speaker 1: I saw that and it reminded me. It reminded me of Gilda Radner. Really, yes, might sit in the big chair. Yes, Edith Van was the carricter.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it was an homage. I got lost, I said, you know what, Jesse, So I went back to the car and I said, the world's biggest Adirondack chair is here? Or do you want to go sit on it? And he was like he liked that and we yeah. So then we cruised into the hotel. We stayed like off the strip because we were visiting my parents. We cruised into the hotel on in Las Vegas, moved there from Long Island, like sixteen years ago. Why did I want to know? Why did I not brag about that? But anyway, so we pull in eight percent battery, no air on on, no phone charge like nothing there both just I mean, we literally were driving the flashlight that had died and we made it nine hours.
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Speaker 1: That is terrible.
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Speaker 2: I waste so much time making stupid, careless decisions that I would I would get work done if I didn't. So much time wasted, wasted, wasted.
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Speaker 1: Terry used to have he still has a Tesla, but he used to have a rab four. Right when electric cars first came out, they only had the Toyota RAB four, and I think in Beverly Hills they were using them for like city vehicles. Anyway, I got my hands on one because we were living in the Palisades and you were so basically we did a thing where we were going back and forth. When we got married. I was living in La. Right, he was in Newport and whatever show I was on didn't get picked up, so we moved to Newport and then I got a news show, we moved up to LA and that's what we did. We just moved back and forth between LA and Newport, depending on if I had a job, right, and I and we decided to live in the Palisades. Why I have no idea, but it was really that was Richard d. It was very pretty, but it's so far and it's like got its own climate. It's like weird, and it wasn't like it is now now. The town is so beautiful and they breached the stores. It wasn't like that then, but we lived in this really cool place. It was you know mcguy ver, Richard dan Anderson. It was we were renting his house and it was like a total bachelor path. There were like no upper cabinets, there were only pullouts. I was like, where do you put a glass? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: If you can't put a glass in a pullout, it's hilarious.
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Speaker 1: I was like, five, what's he doing with that thing? Anyway? So we lived there.
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Speaker 2: Terry something right, yeah, anyway, So.
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Speaker 1: Terry had the rap four so that he could drive back and forth and not like pay for gas.
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Speaker 2: I guess right, right right, it was.
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Speaker 1: It was really far and it didn't go that long, and it took like five hours to charge in the thing back then. And so one time he was driving home and he was on the phone with me and he was still like miles away and there's so much traffic on PCH and he goes, uh oh, oh no, what he goes, there's some picture on my dashboard that just lit up. I go, what is it? He said, it's a turtle.
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Speaker 2: A turtle.
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Speaker 1: Yes, the raft four had a turtle. I think it meant go slow because you're gonna die. There was stupid.
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Speaker 2: You should be driving a turtle right now instead of this car. Oh my god, that's that's a long time that they've been around it a long time, like early two thousands.
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Speaker 1: It was early two thousands, who knew who?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never I'm not driving that car again anyway, but I go through so much gas it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: I don't drive anymore. Well, you know, it's crazy. So I started to hate driving when we were in Newport because the streets. I mean, I know this is supposed to be like a pro but the streets are very wide and they're like, it's really boring to drive everywhere, like to drive them to school. It's on the freeway and it's the seventy three, which is a nice freeway because it's not really congested or whatever, but it's really boring.
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Speaker 2: Right right right, and then you risk falling asleep.
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Speaker 1: I swear there were so many times where I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna like I had turned on the air. Oh so bad. I'm now driving in la even though it takes a long time to get everywhere, Like it's interesting, there's things to look at.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I do a lot of thinking in the car. It's we talked to me like you're you're in your driveway that's considered hot.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 1: I love those memes that are like moms understand that self care is sitting into your driveway and not going inside, because I so get that. I do that all the time because it's like you're home, so you get credit for being home, but you're not actually dealing with anyone yet, and you have a loan time.
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Speaker 2: But I'm getting texts the whole time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can sort of ignore them unless they look out the window. It's hard for me. It's hard for me right now. Okay, so you know we bought this house.
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Speaker 2: Right, you're not in though yet? Right, aren't you in your apartment?
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Speaker 1: No? So what happened was we bought the house a year ago. I tried to buy like six different houses. Three were in Newport, was whatever. Anyway, this is the house we ended up getting. So I threw a stage furniture in it, and we've been living there for a year. But now we're our permits are ready. I got my team and we're ready to start construction because we're taking it down to the stuts. So we had to move out. So I don't know if I've told this story yet, but so we own this apartment right that I'm.
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Speaker 2: Sitting in there. Oh, you can't sit in your driveway there.
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Speaker 1: But go on, Well, so this is what I'm gonna tell you. So we own this apartment and then I rented apartment on a different floor that has more bedrooms because we only have two bedrooms. I would love to tell you that the children are living downstairs and we are living upstairs, because that would make my husband very happy, but that is not what's happening. What's happening is we have a bedroom downstairs, and so he's Max and Kat and Ace, and we have a bedroom upstairs. And I gave Nikki the guest room up here because truthfully, he's going away. First semester he's going abroad and second semester when it comes home. Yeah, Nikki is he lives in La because he goes to school in LA, so he has a house. So it's really like for holidays and whatever. I don't know, it's just what made the most sense. But remember this dumb thing that I was doing where I'd wake up in our house and I would go to the gym and then come to the apartment to shower and get dressed at ever tell you that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well I'm basically doing the same thing, but I'm just going up the elevator. Did you give them a key to upstairs? Yeah, yeah, they can come up. Unfortunately, yeah, James loox. But they have like these fobs here, there's no not really a key, like you could only get to our floor if you've got this fog thing right right right, They honestly don't except for Nikki, he's up here like he just loved but he the other kids they like being downstairs. So it's fine. But here's the problem. I love living in an apartment. It's the best thing.
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Speaker 2: That's all I want. I want an apartment in a doorman building and just everything together, all my stuff. I do everything on my bed anyway, because I lived in the studio apartments forever, eat on my bed everything.
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Speaker 1: It's the best. I love it. And I've done a lot of purging, and I really I like having a purging.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.
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Speaker 1: So I've sort of condensed everything because I went from like obviously a large house when we lived in Newport, So I I did a lot of Yeah, there was like a lot of backstock.
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Speaker 2: Right that was like the Capitol, like that was a monumentary. That was a monument It was a big house, big house.
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Speaker 1: So I had a lot of backstock. I had a lot of like storage. I'm just getting rid of everything. I went through all my storage. I really like I've done the purge of the century. So I love it. I love living here. But here's what happens. You pull up to the front. It's like a fortress here. No one's getting in. No, I mean, the security is insane. There's a lot of like big name people that live in this building, and no one's getting in. But you drive up and there's like eight guys when you drive up.
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Speaker 2: Really oh, but like taking your things and like.
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Speaker 1: Him just grow what do you need? Do you need me to care anythink? And I send something upstairs for you. Let me park your car? Do you need your car? Like all the things, which is the great thing ever. I love it. I have friends that live in the building that don't park in the front. They go underneath, park their own cars and just take the elevator up because they don't want to talk to anyone. Listen, you know me, like I know the real man. Yeah, I know everyone's name. I talk Tim and Faith and Gilbert and Samuel, I know everyone we have we talk. I know Samuel hurt his ankle, I know, Tim, you know, like I know everyone's bad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would carry things for them because I feel so bad having people help me. And that's something I need to discuss the therapy. But it is a problem. I would, I would, I would say can I help you perry something? I canrry?
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Speaker 1: They won't let you. And you know, we take care of them at the holidays obviously and do all the things so and because I think maybe a lot of people don't want to talk to them, and we're so overly friendly that they're so nice does and they're so sweet and like I'll call for my car to come up, you just text them and they bring your car and if it's parked on the side, like I'll just skulk over there, you know, and go to get out, they run over to open the door. I mean, there's so nice, But the problem is when I need that extra time.
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Speaker 2: In the car, right, it's just the driveway that's coo. You can't. But also, isn't it annoying having to smile and say hi to people? No? No, it's probably the true mood. It's started with a smile.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you it really is. And I think there's something about And I know that's crazy because we're all allowed to have down moments and whatnot, but there's something about like sort of having to just put on a smile and put it on and say hi to people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does elevate your mood. I was a greeter at Jake Crew after college. I cannot see that it was so I was a terrible Merry Christmas. Welcome to j Crew. Please don't touch anything. I just called the sweaters. I don't know how I got here because I went to college and there are no jobs because there's a recession. But anyway, let me know if you need anything. Actually don't know.
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Speaker 1: What was the worst thing that someone could ask you at j Crew?
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Speaker 2: Can you help me?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 2: Like do you have this size too?
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Speaker 1: Like that would just be the worst thing ever.
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Speaker 2: Double zero? They didn't have a double zero then, so I think I do.
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Speaker 1: Zero's mirrored. But they've also changed the sizes. Look back in the day, I was the size six. Now I'm a zero. I'm the same sung I'm just.
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Speaker 2: Six or an eight or whatever. I'm not an eight. I don't even know what I am, but I'm not a zero. I'm nowhere near And I feel like the double zero made my side go no, but yeah, maybe, And why did they keep those pants on the bottom? The biggest pants are on the bottom of the pile in the store. It should be on the top of the pile. So you just get them and thank you. Instead you have to rifle and then they have to say, can I help you get a size? Obviously not, it's fast.
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Speaker 1: I will tell you that I have a vintage box and a vintage closet which I also purged. I went through it and I only really kept things that I thought some of the kids would want or maybe like if I'm lucky enough to have a grandchild that's interested in that kind of thing someday. So I keep put really good pieces. But some of the things I pulled out. Max wanted some stuff, Cat wanted some stuff. I'm like, wear it now, Why are you going to wait for me to die? Right?
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Speaker 2: So take it so I can see it on you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And also I pulled out a few things that I was like, oh, I might want to wear this, and I tried them on and they totally fit me now, to totally fit me now, right, And I'm telling you what I buy now is.
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Speaker 2: Zero about them. You were bigger.
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Speaker 1: No, No, I'm telling you, like I've always been thin. My body's changed since I have had children, and I definitely can, you know, go through phases of life that would be five eight pounds more. But basically, I feel like I've been the same size for like twenty years except for the pregnancies. Right, So I put on like skirts and pants and I'm telling you they fit me perfectly and they are size eight.
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Speaker 2: So interesting? Do you think they know they didn't swell? I don't know. That's so interesting. But also I realized that the things I bought like back when I was younger are vintage now, Like I didn't buy them vintage. I bought them new, and they are vintage.
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. My vintage closet are the things I bought new.
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Speaker 2: It's so depressing, it's so upsetting. I'm vintage, I'm vintage.
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Speaker 1: I'm vintage as well.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's I think the pandemic made us so much older, faster, because we were in like molasses for two years just or whatever you petrify things in, and then we started our lives again and we didn't realize we're two and a half years older, and our kids were two and a half years older.
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Speaker 1: It's like the movie Manifest, the TV show Manifest when they lost five years.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: Max left this morning, Okay, to go back to Tufts. I shed a few tears this morning. That was so yeah. And then so she left this morning. But I don't think school actually starts till the day after Labor Day for her. But she's a junior this year, and she's living off campus, and so she needed to go and get like her little house settled and rightwever. So she's going to do that, and then she's going with a friend to Cape Cod for a few days.
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Speaker 2: So whatever, it's so nice.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's going to see Kristin Chenowith has a show called The Queen of Versa that is playing in Boston.
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Speaker 2: I'm based on the documentary. Yes, okay, so she's going to that.
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Speaker 1: So she's going to that on Thursday, and she's gonna go see christ And I love Christin. I wish I wanted to go, but I could it because of the other kids. So she's gonna go, and she's going to go wherever and do her thing, and then she'll start school like the day after Labor Day. Katerina. Her school starts on Monday, so Kat is case good Monday. But kat is a senior this year, and so yesterday and today she has been at school. They're doing like, you know, like how to apply to college sort of things.
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Speaker 2: And you're not sad about that?
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Speaker 1: No, no, And I'm also completely not involved. I've told this story before, but I will tell it one time again for people with young kids or people that are in this age group. Is that when I had to put Maxiniki in kindergarten private school, it was the worst experience of my life. Like the literally applications, No, I suffered it. One we wanted to know this one school. One got in one, I mean one didn't get in. One got on the wait list. I cried. I the moms were so fucking mean about the whole I was a disaster. And I said it's a and I said, I will never ever ever suffer this again. So when the twins got to lead, yeah, I said, here's a guidance counselor a private one. I'm going to pay for it. And if you want to go somewhere good or you want choices, I suggest you study. But she'll be here to guide you. I'm here for emotional and moral support whenever you want it. And that's and that's it. And they both ended up in great places or whatever it really did. I mean, yeah, and Kat is a self starter. She's got she's Terry's brain. She's so smart.
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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, that's good. We don't we don't and nobody wants certain brains here. My kids, my brain, and my husband's brained together. So but also wait, oh, I know Christian China was also because she worked on my brother's show Trial and Error. She was the suspect in the second season. She's amazing. She's so funny. She's so funny, she's so talented, so talented, and so sweet.
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Speaker 1: One of the most generous people.
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Speaker 2: Yes, she went to Vancouver to shoot that show. I mean that's really nice. I mean she was the star of the show. But it was really she's lovely. She's really lovely.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her. And I texted her and I was like, Max is coming to see your show. She's like, oh, here's why this is it? Tell her to come backstage?
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Speaker 2: But why.
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Speaker 1: She's so sweet.
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Speaker 2: It's really nice.
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Speaker 1: They aren't a lovelace so cat, there aren't a lot of nice people. No, that's why we highlight the nice people we do. Oh and can I tell you on the more thing? I noticed when I when I walk, when like when I'm dealing, when I'm talking to someone, like if it's like someone at the post, like mailbox places any where.
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Speaker 2: I always compliment something. I like your lipstick, you look so pretty. But why does he do that?
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Speaker 1: I do that too. I always like, like, your nails are so nice.
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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yes, I think I want them to go. I really like your lipstick. I'm wearing lipstick.
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Speaker 1: No, I noticed, no one ever says anything.
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Speaker 2: I don't get any compliments. There's no I really like that. There is like that's amazing that you can go out like or do you know you're in my jama the confidence Yes, at two in the morning, I think I can be in pajamas.
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Speaker 1: All right. So kat is so she's got a couple of things and then she starts Monday. Ace has been in Miami again. He's been in Miami a lot this summer. Oh really, yeah. Or one of our former nannies who's like a daughter to me, Daniel, she got married and move to Miami, but we see her all the time. And yeah I talked to her or whatever. Anyway, so he goes to Camp Danielle. We call it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. Oh that's amazing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's coming home tomorrow and then he's got a little orientation on Thursday, and he goes back Monday. And then Nicki, I don't remember if I told you this, but I said, NICKI is going abroad first semester and Max is going second semester.
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Speaker 2: Where are they going?
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Speaker 1: Nicki's going to Florence and Max's going to Paris?
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Paris is so pretty. I noticed during the Olympics. I've never been obviously, I've never been to years. Let's Psyche told me night right, right, Yeah, Psyche told me I'm going to Italy. I really don't believe that. I mean, I don't know. Maybe my ashes. Do you know that if you get cremated, you sit up what your body sits up? I mean, I can't catch a break. I just I planned on just doing The body reacts and sits up. Sometimes I read it on the Internet during one of my during one of my three am ambient fused fueled google searches, real that and what would JFK and Carolyn look like now and how they look gorgeous, They look like they did then because they don't know. And then I watched their wedding documentary. It's just so sad. It's so sad, so sad, and to be that sister of hers, you don't the last people you want to die with is JFK. Junior in his stunning way.
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Speaker 1: I mean she ever remember her?
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Speaker 2: No, that's like the last that's that's just she shouldn't have gotten on the plae.
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Speaker 1: Did they even mention her in the documentary?
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Speaker 2: No? No, no, not even in the wedding documentary. She didn't even know nothing but nothing like there's no you just I have a feeling she was. She was sidelined a lot in life. That she should never travel with the Kennedy I think that was the persons so well.
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Speaker 1: That should be just a rule of thumb for everyone.
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Speaker 2: Don't travel with a candy, don't travel with Kennedy, don't travel and don't fly with the broken foot. That was devastating. I'm still sad about it. I'm a love of some things.
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Speaker 1: Do you remember where you were when.
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Speaker 2: You heard yes, I was a crunch the gym. I went to crunch well, yeah, I was a crunch when it happened, but I was also a crunch on nine to eleven, and I was like, one plane had hit the towers, and I was like, I'm on a weight list, and if I get off the weight list, do I take this bad class. I didn't take it because I didn't get off, so it was more important to a lot of people. But I didn't know what was happening. I know what I would have done had I gotten off the weight list. So you would have taken the I would have taken the glass. Yes, oh my god. I mean it's not like I could do anything, but it was very like yeah, and I didn't know what had happened yet, so for all I knew.
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Speaker 1: Right because at first they were saying it was just like a plane, little plane accident.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So I mean, but enough people took the class that there were still none of us standing by so near the TVs.
00:29:16
Speaker 1: You're telling me that ten people will stand outside of spin class waiting for someone to drop out.
00:29:23
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was this woman Stacy Griffin who lives in New York now, who is one of the like soul cycle teachers, and she's like famous. Now it's so crazy. But she was teaching and then I moved to Equinox with her. And one time I was in a class and the fire alarm went off and nobody left. No one left, No one left, no one left. Everybody left the gym, even the guy who I've only every time I went to the gym. He was on the elliptical machine. I've never I thought he came with it, Like, he didn't leave, he got off the elliptical machine. Firefighters came in. There was smoke, the mics went out, the lights went out, and she was just screaming at us like sometimes there's a fire, you need to climb. So then none of us left. I mean that was another thing. People were waiting at the door to see if fire is chasing you, pedal petal the fire is it? So do you want to look good or do you want to live? So in the elevator after, I was like, I can't believe we stayed during a fire and someone just goes vain. We all just stood there and that is a minute.
00:30:30
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, I gotta tell you so you now I'm taking pilates.
00:30:33
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, tell me because my price ups are really.
00:30:37
Speaker 1: I want you to know why I did pilates. This is this is Leana Levy. Okay, so she created the form of method, you know, the one I go to that's all twenty six year old supermodels in me.
00:30:48
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because this is Leana Levy. Stop it.
00:30:53
Speaker 1: How old is she? It doesn't matter. Listen, listen to me, Liz.
00:30:58
Speaker 2: She's so my daughter when she could plans let me see.
00:31:02
Speaker 1: No, but I've been in class with her before, So she she what what is plates?
00:31:09
Speaker 2: Exactly? What do you do? You stand on a thing?
00:31:12
Speaker 1: Have you never taken plates?
00:31:14
Speaker 2: No? But I do yoga like religiously. I hate yoga, but not not meditation. I always say one home and I go home. I don't do any like meditative yoga. I do the Niasa flow, which is really hard. I love it. It's my only form of any kind of like therapy.
00:31:31
Speaker 1: What do you love about it?
00:31:32
Speaker 2: It's actually not true. I just got a therapist. But the jury's out. I think she feels too sorry for me.
00:31:37
Speaker 1: She tells her, you told me you were going to get a new therapist. Then you have to like tell them all your shit. Wouldn't it be nice just to hand them a dossier and.
00:31:44
Speaker 2: Be like, write my book. She read my book.
00:31:48
Speaker 1: Perfect.
00:31:48
Speaker 2: He listened to my book and I didn't tell her to. So we're all caught up.
00:31:52
Speaker 1: Perfect.
00:31:53
Speaker 2: We're all caught up pretty much. She knows, you know, but I get a lot of head tilting and like, oh, And I asked her if she gives advice, and she said, do you want advice? And I said, yes, I won't take it, but I do want it. But she used to be a TV executive, which is a blessing and a curse. First, so I think I met her back in like the early.
00:32:12
Speaker 1: Two thousand and now she's a therapist.
00:32:14
Speaker 2: We met, Yes, that happens a lot.
00:32:16
Speaker 1: But she's going to real estate.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: Well my last therapy. Yes, real estate is a big one. But she yeah, So I can like pitch her ideas and then we can brainstorm. But then I'm worried she'll pitch something that I don't like and like my last therapist, and we'll argue and then you know, then I have to go.
00:32:37
Speaker 1: With your idea.
00:32:39
Speaker 2: What if she takes my idea? You know what, You're right, You're.
00:32:43
Speaker 1: Right, I might have a TV executive.
00:32:48
Speaker 2: If I find out she didn't. Me's just market What.
00:32:51
Speaker 1: If she's just market time, waiting to get back in the business.
00:32:57
Speaker 2: One idea, it's not gonna be mine. But she also I wonder if she didn't put me on a show, but she noticed that she did. I think I met you.
00:33:10
Speaker 1: So I'm careful what ideas you give her, because in the court, if you say I told her about that idea and she stole it from me, and they go and then she sits there and she says, I'm a therapist, let me tell you something. She's crazy, she lies, she's a compulsive life. This is a liar.
00:33:34
Speaker 2: That's why she's in therapy.
00:33:37
Speaker 1: There's reasonable doubt.
00:33:38
Speaker 2: There's reasonable that. And also there's a therapist character in this. So obviously it's mine. But that's okay, okay, So you so you like, all right, I'm gonna tell you what I don't like about yoga. Okay, tell me it's too repetitive.
00:33:54
Speaker 1: There's move one is like this art, and then move to is this our in that arm? And then three is this arm that arm in your head. It's like it's the same thing. Oh, it's like building on that. It's just I go go again.
00:34:08
Speaker 2: But zoom yoga is a whole like it's just the yell. I'm always yelling and the dogs and like just it's so, it's.
00:34:17
Speaker 1: So you do yoga at home.
00:34:21
Speaker 2: I do it at home because two of three of my teachers one I don't take any more, are all like since the pandemic on zoom because Yoga Works closed, which was a big employer of all the yoga teachers in LA, and they closed over the pandemic and then they turned they got off by a tech company and it's like an app now and it's all influencers. So I still take their classes, but now I take two classes in person on the weekends, which is amazing, one each day. It's amazing to be in person and get adjusted. And I mean, I miss my dogs. I miss my dogs, and I miss the chair I lean on, but I don't have to like turn five heters on and it's just nice. It's nice. I missed going anywhere.
00:35:01
Speaker 1: I like, I need an appointment because if I'm doing it at home, I can stop.
00:35:05
Speaker 2: Of course, yes, that is that is a yeah, that's a problem. I know. But they're watching, they're like on you know, on cameras and stuff.
00:35:13
Speaker 1: I don't care. I would leave.
00:35:16
Speaker 2: I do sometimes actually or I hide and I to share in text or play wordle but what.
00:35:24
Speaker 1: But the plates thing is okay, so it's two different things. There's the reformer, which is that like torture instrument looking thing, right, and so what I what I like about it is you lie down a lot.
00:35:38
Speaker 2: Oh I like that? Yeah, okay, I think I can do that. Is it hard on your knees? Because I have no really.
00:35:46
Speaker 1: No, this is the whole thing about pilates is that it's a it's honestly, it's totally honest, you know, being for real for a second, Like it's meant to be something that's for recovery. So ballet dancers, it's a length strengthening.
00:36:02
Speaker 2: Bony look like a ballet answer.
00:36:04
Speaker 1: So it's like very lengthening and it's slow. It's not like a fast thing. So it's really good for you know, older people. But like I'm telling you, this whole class is twenty six year old supermodels, right, I mean, Leanna's like insane, But like all the instructors, they look so great and they are the strongest, and there's really all I have to tell you. There's all body types. It's not just everyone that looks like Leona, like there's all different body types, but it's all about this core strength, which and as I as we get older, you know, like look, yeah, do I want to look good. Yes, But I'm not a sports illustrated model. I'm never going to be. I have cell you like I have my whole life. It just is what it is. No, I'm just saying, but yeah, I mean I want to like be functioning and strong for my kids, right, you know whatever, because I want to be we have a long time to irritate them. So I I love doing this class. So all right, So there's reformers and it's like there's different things they use, like bands and balls and very light little weights but it's like small muscle movements. Okay, no, you I'm telling you, you'll love it. And then they have Matt classes which is not on that machine, which is on the floor, and I go to one at the Beverly Glenn Center.
00:37:30
Speaker 2: Really you could meet me. I'll meet you, because I was driving by there the other day and I was like, it's so sad that I'll never be at the bet Beverly Glenn. I'll meet you. I'm up there all the time.
00:37:42
Speaker 1: I know. It's the best, and they are you good in the hot.
00:37:46
Speaker 2: I'm fat, young, but in the hot I thought you meant that. Wait, I thought you meant the Beverly Center Mall.
00:37:51
Speaker 1: No Beverly Glenn at the top of that.
00:37:54
Speaker 2: I'm there all the time.
00:37:56
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so good. And they play good music and it's on the mat and they have like again balls and little shirt, little weights and things, and you just use. I was there this morning and you just you're drenched. And I can't tell you how good it feels to be strong. But I have to tell you when some of the young girls, I have to like stop for a few minutes, like I'm so happy.
00:38:19
Speaker 2: I know. You know my friend though, who's a sculpt teacher, yoga sculped at eight and she's an amazing shape. She would take my Sunday yoga class with me and like that's like hot, plass, It's not. It's hot because you sweat so much and she can't do it, and I'm like, how is that possible? I think when you're not used to doing things, I'm totally going to do that class with you because I really need that. I need something different. And my triceeps, I saw my arms from behind the other day. Oh, it was like, now the ways in which I can hold my arms in public are I can fold them, I can put my hands on my hips if but my back is up against a wall. I literally have to stand against a wall all the time now because the backs of my arms, my elbows. I mean, I just I can't even believe it.
00:39:06
Speaker 1: Well, forget the elbows. I tried on a shirt that I had el you know, like you remember all the used to have holes in the knees. Yeah, I tried on a shirt that had slits in the elbows. I was like, that is just the meanest garment I ever seen.
00:39:20
Speaker 2: Yes, well, the shoulder cutouts were very in for a while. You know what else? Do you know that Tim Walls is sixty?
00:39:27
Speaker 1: Is that right?
00:39:29
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, but he's from Minnesota, so he's like he's but if you go to Middle Okay, so Brad Pitt is also sixty. So like, I think it's like an LA thing, not LA thing, but it's a coastalish kind of thing maybe, And people who grew up in the Midwest are up against the more. I mean, I couldn't believe that. I think I was in bed for two days after that.
00:39:53
Speaker 1: Well, this is why I know cryotherapy doesn't work, because we you remember, we used to. So we have this skincare line, right Console Beauty that we sell on a shop channel and shop HQ, and they're based out of Minnesota and eating Prairie.
00:40:08
Speaker 2: Oh may my right remain laws are Yeah.
00:40:10
Speaker 1: So we used to go there once a month for years. Now we do it virtually, although Terry's going back to Minnesota actually this weekend, but not it can be thirty below yeah.
00:40:26
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:40:27
Speaker 1: And what I realized was my joke was like, oh this, why go to cryotherapy Just get out of the car in Minnesota in the winter because you get three minutes walking from your car to the whatever.
00:40:38
Speaker 2: And really it's a yeah.
00:40:41
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If pryotherapy actually worked, people that lived in Minnesota would look younger than all of us. Yes.
00:40:47
Speaker 2: And also we went to Syracuse and I was and it looks so good. I was called all the time.
00:40:57
Speaker 1: Enerpy does not work. I say, it's a waste of money.
00:40:59
Speaker 2: It does, it's a waste time. And also the cold plunge. Someone a friend of mine told me that she was doing the cold plunge and she lost all the sweet, and it turns out she was on Ozimbic. So I was dunking myself in like negative four hundred degrees every Sunday, and I was like, I don't look like her dying. Just every extremity, just like just numb and ruined.
00:41:26
Speaker 1: I love the idea of the cold plunge, but it terrifies me. And then when we were in Idaho, they have at that club we belonged to. They had it at the Spa and my son Nikki was like, oh, come with me. They have a sauna and a cold plunge and I was like right, and I showed up and the cold plunch was like filthy because so many people had plunged.
00:41:48
Speaker 2: Oh they don't clean after plunging.
00:41:51
Speaker 1: I think like people have like sunscreen on and what it was just a film.
00:41:56
Speaker 2: There was a film.
00:41:57
Speaker 1: There was a film.
00:41:59
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Well, I got Todd a cold climbed for Father's Day, but I didn't buy the chiller because that was expensive. So I got basically, oh, you told me a rubber bucket. So I've been trying to return it. We have one hundred days to return it. And now I'm like, you have to put that back in the box and you have to close the box for me and take it to the mailbox store. It's too heavy. So now he has to pack up his day gift and get it back or we're gonna wind. I'm mad at him. I'm like, are you just going to let that rubber tub sit there for one hundred and one days? And I yell it across the house so he doesn't hear me, and then I mean and I start one room too early. So now mad because we have this rubber bucket that I bought without the chiller. Oh my god, it was a thousand dollars and I shopped now on Instagram.
00:42:47
Speaker 1: I buy everything on Instagram. What'd you buy?
00:42:50
Speaker 2: I bought this dog bed that's supposed to like calm my dog down, but she has to get into like this pocket and I go through tube, but she's like scared, so I try to show her I in there, like I just giving her my out event and calling it a day.
00:43:04
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny. Our dogs now our apartment dogs.
00:43:12
Speaker 2: How many dogs do you have? Two? Three?
00:43:14
Speaker 1: Two? Okay, so we have two dogs and then Max has her cat. But because Max was home all summer, a nice chunk of the summer. The dogs have been living with my housekeeper because she's like a big yard or whatever, and you know how cute.
00:43:32
Speaker 2: It'll be like irreconcilable differences when she wanted to move in with her nanny exactly.
00:43:38
Speaker 1: So what we did was we let the dogs have the run in the house like four days a week, and then they would go with our housekeeper on the weekends, and so that the cat, Vincent could walk around on the weekends.
00:43:52
Speaker 2: Right, it's nice, yeah? Do they so they really fight? They are like they don't like each other.
00:43:58
Speaker 1: So it's not gone well when we've tried to introduce them, okay, But what's interesting is so, first of all, Blanca, God bless her, has I don't know what she has done to my dogs that think are their carpet trained, but they seem, knock on wood, to be actually perhaps trained house train trained. Now. Oh yeah, so they've so far been really good in the apartment, no accidents thus far. And then we've been keeping them separate from Vincent. But last night or alta yesterday, weirdly, Roxy, one of the dogs was outside Max's door sniffing under the door for Vincent and Vincent and Vincent was on the other side sniffing for roxy.
00:44:42
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a movie that's Lady in the that's a movie that's a sequel to Lady in the Turn. That's adorable. It was also walking them, though that's not in my job description.
00:44:55
Speaker 1: Harry did that, Terry does it, and the and Ace and Cap do it. Although I went with them yesterday once. But I don't. I don't. I do everything. I don't feed them and I don't walk them. I play with them them.
00:45:10
Speaker 2: I mean, my my dogs are they get better treatment than anyone here. It's bad. But I don't walk them. They go in the backyard.
00:45:20
Speaker 1: So exactly this whole walking thing I mean, And you have to understand, I think that I'm just resentful that when first of all, I love them, I really do. There's the cutest things. Well, that's why you don't want them. I didn't want them. And we went to go in the pandemic, go get one dog, and Terry insisted we get too, And they're great and I love them. And now they're very codependent on doing the whole thing. But you know it's hard to have two dogs. Yeah, one is a lot easier and Terry's like, no, they need to find it.
00:45:56
Speaker 2: It's like when you have another kid, you're always it's exponential.
00:46:00
Speaker 1: Ten. So anyway, so when we first got them in the pandemic, who do you think got up with them every day at six am? Terry me, oh, every day six am. I would get them up and take am outside and feed them, wait and try to train.
00:46:21
Speaker 2: Enough. They crash, well, crash hurt his back, so he can't really feel it when he has to poop, which is.
00:46:30
Speaker 1: Terrible.
00:46:31
Speaker 2: I know, it's terrible. And it's also terrible when I'm lying on my back and he lies and he's very.
00:46:41
Speaker 1: Relaxed, and does he poop on you?
00:46:44
Speaker 2: Well, one time I was in Chivasna and yoga. I was like, it's so nice having my dogs here and like doing yoga. And then I pulled him onto my stomach and he was making eye contact with me the whole time and kissing me and vibrating a little bit, and I was like, we're really having a moment. And then it's bostia ends or whatever, and he just like crawls off of me and leaves three duty balls. Well, so all the time he was like folks kissing me. He was we had a moment for sure. I mean it's really like it was. It was a real like f you it was a dominant Do you think it was a dominance thing when he pooped on me?
00:47:29
Speaker 1: I mean maybe he has a fetish.
00:47:32
Speaker 2: Maybe, but he used to when he got excited, he would ship and he would do he would poop when he got excited. And he makes these left turns, little left turns, and it would just fine. It just our house is an ad for nature's miracle. And I still like let him on the bed and like what he doesn't poop on the bed anymore, but he but we have to carry him up and down the stairs and he's like a giant like baby. It really is crazy.
00:47:56
Speaker 1: You know what's weird.
00:47:58
Speaker 2: He's the happiest little guy because he shits were every months.
00:48:03
Speaker 1: Mine is finally good in the house. We'll see if that continues. But you know what I find funny, Like I find the dogs like I don't want them all. They don't sleep on my bed.
00:48:13
Speaker 2: That's smart, that's smart. I get I have back trouble because my one dog is so sleeps with her but on top of my shoulder for comfort.
00:48:23
Speaker 1: That's that's not my thing. They sleep with the kids, which.
00:48:27
Speaker 2: Is they could as they should.
00:48:29
Speaker 1: They sleep with the kids, and they're cool with that. But when they walk around like I feel like they're dirty, you know what I mean. But for some reason, Vincent the cat he was, he walks all over the kitchen, the countertog and.
00:48:42
Speaker 2: We are cats. That's why I think they're smarter than us.
00:48:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vincent is very smart. He's very smart. But also I just find him to be clean, Like it doesn't gross me out when he's walking around with that.
00:48:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, dogs don't gross me out though, obviously. And I like them kiss me and I've convinced myself that their mouths are self cleaning ovens and all of that. That ship is said. So they're on the furniture everything everything. I share my meds with them from having what they had Evan and my special bagels that I buy that are so expensive, my protein bagels. Crash is obsessed with them. He would knock over a garbage can with his little bad back to get to them. He goes, he just felt it. They're called the better brand. And I posted a video of him. I came upstairs in his head in my room was stuck in a bag and his whole entire snout and everything were stuck in the bag. And I pulled the bag off of the space and he had the bagel in his mouth. And then today I was carrying him up the stairs and a giant wad of bagel falls out of his mouth. And I don't know how he got it. He could have gotten into the refrigerator. He'd just becomes super human when he gets near those bagels. Sleep. I'll sneak one into my room in like a pocket, in a sweatshirt, a bold of sweatshirt, at like two in the morning, and I'll that's a whole other thing. And he will. He's on his back, flips over, comes up on the bed angry too, like really angry, and just like goes for it. And I keep feeding him because I can't. I just want him to go away. I've been struggling, that's it.
00:50:25
Speaker 1: I've been on a card kick for the last three days. I have no idea why. But have you tried hero bread?
00:50:32
Speaker 2: That's good too.
00:50:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really hard, but you want to know, it's so crazy now that you just said that. So we were in Las Vegas, this just for twenty four hours, so we went, so just me and Terry. So our friend Richard Marks was playing in Vegas with really looking Yeah. So he was playing with Rick Springfield and they were He and Daisy were like, hey, we're going to be there. Come and you know, I mean, who didn't love doctor Noah Drake.
00:50:58
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Right, So show General Hospital and Laura the whole thing, so Black John Stamos when he was on the Regis Building ship. Regis and Kathy Lee I stayed home from school.
00:51:13
Speaker 1: They were they were just the best.
00:51:14
Speaker 2: It was.
00:51:16
Speaker 1: So we go to So we go to Las Vegas and it was really it was weirdly, it was just very mellow, you know.
00:51:23
Speaker 2: We just it was like fun.
00:51:25
Speaker 1: No, we just went because Richard and Daisy were gonna be oh my god, senior moment. Yeah. No, it's fine. By the way, I've probably forgotten to So so we we fly there. We stayed at Bellagio and they I like caviar and they have a Petrosian cafe right now in the lobby there. So we like sat there and we ate and we drank and walked around a little bit and then we went over to the show. So the show was amazing. I forgot how many.
00:51:53
Speaker 2: You know.
00:51:53
Speaker 1: It's funny because I think Rick Springfield only saying Jesse's girl. But he has like a lot of very good songs that I forgot that he did.
00:52:01
Speaker 2: What else? He probably can't? You know? How do he look? Was it depressednme?
00:52:07
Speaker 1: Or now he's shredded?
00:52:11
Speaker 2: He's shredded? Really that's good?
00:52:15
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Richard are both like First of all, they both have the best hair.
00:52:21
Speaker 2: We used to call Richard Marks in college. We call him little Man big hair. Yeah, he has got the best hair, really does.
00:52:28
Speaker 1: It's great. He's so handsome and he's so talented. Jesus. Yeah, the two that were great. So we did that and then we went to Delilah's.
00:52:37
Speaker 2: What's that?
00:52:38
Speaker 1: Oh you've never been to Delilah's.
00:52:40
Speaker 2: What is it? Stripe Gone?
00:52:42
Speaker 1: Yes?
00:52:42
Speaker 2: I was there.
00:52:43
Speaker 1: There's one in La but I have to say the one in Vegas is just fabulous. It's sort of like a very cool retro nightclub where you're not allowed to take photos, so which it's awesome, so you don't feel like everyone's just got their phones out videoing. And the food's amazing and it's like, you know, gilded palm trees and whatnot. And they have live music like old school live beautiful bands and things or whatever, and everyone's dressed beautifully and then they have burlesque dancers, not topless or anything, just bur less dancing on different audiums. And the food is amazing. Oh yeah, it's like a steakhouse. I mean, but they also had things like pigs in a blanket and chicken fingers, but like phenomenal, really great cocktails. So anyway, so we went there and we had a late night dinner with them, and then we Terry and I had breakfast the next day and came home. But we went to breakfast, and I wanted this is all this entire story was to tell you about my bagel.
00:53:52
Speaker 2: So I'm on this carb.
00:53:53
Speaker 1: Kick, and you know, I'm at the point of my life where when I you know how when you really want something, you eat everything but that thing.
00:54:01
Speaker 2: Yes, and then it winds up. I'm like, I should have just had French fries. It would have been so much better than having like nine pieces of gluten free cheesecake.
00:54:10
Speaker 1: Exist.
00:54:11
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so.
00:54:12
Speaker 1: I'm really into just eating the thing. You want to go. Look, I had the pigs in the blanket, I had the chicken fingers, I have French fries. I did the whole thing. And then the next morning we get to breakfast and I wanted They had mats of ole soup, which.
00:54:28
Speaker 2: Was so great, idea.
00:54:31
Speaker 1: Mots of ale soup. And then I just wanted like scrambled egg whites and a buttered bagel. I ordered the bagel, and I ordered the whole thing, and it comes and Terry gets his and he's got an everything bagel and he looks at mine and he goes, you got assessing me bagel? And I said yeah. He goes, oh, I didn't know they had those. I go, yeah, why'd you get in everything bagel? I said, you don't like garlic? And he said, well, I thought it was just plain or everything. And I didn't want a plain bagel. I go, oh, here, take mine. I'll just get a New York And he thought I was being nice, but the truth was I like it. If I wouldn't eat it, it's.
00:55:10
Speaker 2: Got to be perfect, right. It wasn't like just enough right.
00:55:17
Speaker 1: So I asked a new bagel, a little crispy, right delicious, And so when they brought it, it was like really like hot out from the toaster, right, and so then I buttered it, and then I put a slice of tomato and my egg whites and a.
00:55:32
Speaker 2: Little salt and pepper. Delicious. Was it as good as like a New York bagel? Did they fly their water in?
00:55:38
Speaker 3: You know?
00:55:39
Speaker 1: I would say it was delicious and totally worth it. But nothing's in New York bagel.
00:55:45
Speaker 2: I mean, I used to eat so many of those. It was. I would eat so many of those, and I would my first job at Bridleguy magazine fired. I would go to the bagel store downstairs, and I would get a bagel. I would go up to my office and I would scoop out the middle and I would throw it out, and then I would eat the bagel, and then I would eat the middle.
00:56:10
Speaker 1: Later.
00:56:11
Speaker 2: It was a new garbage. It was a new back. Why not just why not just like like what you're saying, like, why not just eat the middle when it's clean?
00:56:22
Speaker 1: I know, why save it for a trash snack for later?
00:56:25
Speaker 2: And I after trash snack. I've had so many trash snacks. I wrote a pilot once where a woman ill this. A woman sprays a cleaning spray on a piece of cake so she won't eat it and then she's still like tempted to eat it, and the executive was like, ew, I've never seen anyone do that before. I'm like, you're not a person, then you're a baby. Everyone's done that. We've all done, like pouring water on a bread basket when you were out with a new couple and the woman like wanted it. I'm so sorry I pour pepper and water on the bread.
00:56:56
Speaker 1: I used to have a friend that would bring things to the restaurant, and at first I was like, Oh, that's cute, and then I got so irritated by it. Why she would bring like siete chips to javiers or you know, bring like a bunch of like healthier desserts and throw them out on the table at the restaurant at the end. So we're allowed to do that, yeah, but you don't talk me about it. I noticed she never ate those things.
00:57:26
Speaker 2: Oh she's an enabler, that's that's yeah.
00:57:30
Speaker 1: And I thought maybe she wanted it for her husband so he wouldn't eat all the chips or whatever. But it's like, I don't know, don't push that on me.
00:57:39
Speaker 2: Right, I've done that before, where I've brought a cake to someone's house and left it there.
00:57:43
Speaker 1: Just to be mean, Just to be mean. My friend Paul Casell, he has a cookie company called Paul Casel Bakes and he's an actor. Also, he's he's in this new David Mammott phone coming out. But I think in his lull period he started this cookie company because he's like an insanely talented baker.
00:58:06
Speaker 2: Oh anyway, I.
00:58:08
Speaker 1: Haven't spoken to him in a while, but we have really good mutual friends. And texted me the other day and he was like, Hey, it's Paul. You know, I saw you know, you launched this clothing line. I just wanted to send you some cookies. And I was like, that is so sweet and I'm so happy for you. And we had like a very nice you know and your friends with someone from a long time ago, but like you had such like moments together that.
00:58:30
Speaker 2: You can just go all in a way. Yeah.
00:58:33
Speaker 1: So we had this really beautiful texta chain and he sent me the I did a video of it the other day and Max has a TikTok of our taste is because we literally opened the box and there were like nine different kinds of cookies in there and we ate every single cookie.
00:58:47
Speaker 2: What kind of what. I've been eating a lot of corps too, And we have whoppers left over from Phoebe's birthday party. I don't like money night, I now I love them, and I like them in the refrigerator. I like any kind of like like bult nicorice and white, but like any can't well, yeah, that's a malt. I'm not a malt person, but I'll eat it. And milk does. I don't know why. But now we have all this leftover candy from the movie Night.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know what I have that I just realized I left in here so I wouldn't eat anymore. So we belong to this Wrinkles. These are white chocolate non perels.
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Speaker 2: Those are non perels. Ye oh right, Because they're non perels, they're bigger.
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Speaker 1: See their little like balls, you know, white chocolate little disk These are some of my favorite things. So we belong to this club. And at dessert, they give you this tiny, little like human sized tray, like maybe one per person of these, right, and they put it on the table. And of course, as soon as they put it on the table, I'm immediately counting how many are in the dish, and how many people are sitting at the table, so I know a second one, right, yeah? And then I noticed like who hasn't taken one? And I wonder if they're going to take it or I could just take it. And then this happens to me every time we're there. And then there's a couple of service there that know how much I like them, and they literally bring me this is the second bag. They bring me two bags of them to put in my purson take home.
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Speaker 2: Is this a country club?
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Speaker 1: It's like a country club without the country. It's like a social club.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's so nice.
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Speaker 1: It's so nice. It's really sexy.
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Speaker 2: I my brother belonged to Soho House briefly, and we used to joke that just to work like some one of his friends, I got him in. But we used to joke that people would always say because people always be like who you're with to my brother because there's like no way like he was a member. And then we were like, if you jumped off the roof, it would be like the guest of whose nest he was jumped?
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's so funny.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that place made me so uncomfortable though, it really did. I was so afraid I was going to fall down the stairs or I don't even know.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know who designed Yeah, I don't know who designed the furniture there, but it's very I mean, I one could use the word eclectic, but that would mean it made sense.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't mismatched.
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Speaker 1: And the chair heights are wrong for the tables and they're uncomfortable.
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Speaker 2: And we did meetings there for two broke girls, and I fought against it for writer meetings because I was like, going to write the guy or girl has to pay like eighteen dollars to park there and then order some kind of like curried like one yogurt carrot for like another eighteen dollars. I just felt that, but I was I had a meeting there and I had gotten into a little car accident on my way, so I brought my my bumper was still in my back and I was coming up in the elevator and this guy was like Liz, and he's like, I recognized you by your bumper, and then I had it next to me at the table on the floor and like the weight. The wait staff was horrified. They're like, could you move your bumper? I'm sorry, place is so snobby. You can't even have a bumper like the whole bumper plate. No, but it was a big chunk of the bumper. It was enough that would fit into one of my giant like cloth bags. I don't belong there. I don't belong. I don't belong any I don't belong there are the way?
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Speaker 1: You're looking really good? Are you? Are you just still going to your carouselan.
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Speaker 2: Parison West Hollywood. I don't want to even but I yes, I go, let me in. You have But I went to Olga who also works. I go to Lena, who was the owner, and I also go to Olga Max my daughter, Oh she does go. I mean, it's just such an indulgence, and I shouldn't. I just I love on my glasses.
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Speaker 1: Do you look really good? Though?
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Speaker 2: I need botox? Look that's how do I look? But my my botox person got arrested and went to jail. And now she now she lives in Hawaii on a street. Lucky. But I don't have someone anymore.
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Speaker 1: Why did she get arrested?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it was like I think it was like reckless drunk driving. I had her all wrong, is all I'll say I had her all wrong, and now she's like a dominatrix, and you know, maybe living in Hawaii, have to talk.
01:03:22
Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: She just said, you're going to write my book and everything's going to be great. And then I have no boundaries and I can't say no to people. So I just said, oh my god, of course yes. And then I hated her for saying yes, for me saying yes, and I blocked her first person. I was blocked.
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Speaker 1: Tell the pitch it to your therapist.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell her today. Maybe she'll write it and you sell it as a show. I can't believe she would do that. I'm so mad. I'm going to need to talk about in therapy. I'm going to talk about how she betrayed me. Oh.
01:03:53
Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to need a new therapist. All right. I love you. I love when You're going to Europe in two weeks because Nikki is starting school. Okay, yeah, so I'm gonna take him. By the way, when can we.
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Speaker 2: Go to pilates or before? Please? I will meet you. I'm there all the time. I work at that Starbucks.
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Speaker 1: I will tell you the days that I go, and we could go and if especially if you want to go, like on a weekend and then we hang out because you know what I've always wanted to do. Like afterwards, I see some of the pilates girlies go to like the deli there and.
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Speaker 2: See the deli where regulars at the Delhi.
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Speaker 1: I've never been today tonight for dinner. You go to the Delhi for dinner all the time. Yes, we go to the daily for dinner. Yes, they ate us there now, We've been going for a million years. I love it so much.
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Speaker 2: And Phoebe gets moonsible soup.
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Speaker 1: Well, certainly we go to sushi plays sometimes.
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Speaker 2: I've been there once. It's delicious. But my son we stopped going to the Delhi for a while because my son would order for himself and he would order penny loading in butter so that the last piece is three quarters swimming in butter, and so that the last piece is three quarters covered. And I was like, we can't go there anymore. But now the steak.
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Speaker 1: Do you know that there's an Italian place up there, Secreto or something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's this something, yes, but I like Faberccini better. What's that it's an Italian place?
01:05:24
Speaker 1: Also, there's two Italian places in that center.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and the market there has a very lovely bathroom.
01:05:33
Speaker 1: These are all good tips. Yeah, I need to like explore a little bit around that. It's such a tiny center, but like, I don't know, I feel weird walking around by myself.
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Speaker 2: I used during the pandemic, I would go up there and sit in my car and work just to feel like and I would see people like going in out of Starbucks and stuff. So at least there was that like in like full hazmat suits. But I felt like somewhat like it's like my safe place up there.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk with Heather Dobrass starts now, well here today. Do you really need an introduction at this point? Oh?
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Speaker 2: Please don't. I can't hear anything about myself right now.
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Speaker 1: When does school start for you?
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Speaker 2: My god, the twenty ninth. Oh you still have time? Time? Yes, still have time? Not. I mean it's literally I spent four hours a day in the car with them. No longer claim I'm an absent mother. Do you know what it's like to lose that title?
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Speaker 1: I know, it's depressing. It's so funny. I'm not going to say who I ran into it, but I ran into this gal the other day at lunch. It's very famous and I haven't seen her like in person in years, and I was like, oh, hey, how are you blapa ba, Like how's your kid? She's like, oh, he's twenty six, And I'm like wow. She's like, how old are your kids? That I told her that my youngest is thirteen, she goes, wow, I'm so sorry.
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Speaker 2: I go, I know, yeah, yeah, by the way, yes, I mean, we're dealing with some serious girl drama and everything. I mean, but also it's so.
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Speaker 1: She meant that they're still at home.
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Speaker 2: By the way, well, yes, yeah, oh really yeah, an empty nest. But I had a thought about the cross house yelling that we talked about last time. Yeah, and you don't cross house yell, right, Oh I do. Oh not only do I cross house yell. I do probably the most irritating thing.
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Speaker 1: That my family despises and I can't stop doing it is that I start talking to one of them the moment they leave the room.
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Speaker 2: My thing is that I talk to myself and then I'll say something to them, so they weren't part of the first part of the conversation. Oh, I do that too, and my head we're involved in. And then also I realized after we talked last time that I start one room early. So if I just I start yelling one room early, so the bathroom will start yelling. When if I started yelling when I was in my bedroom or at the top of the stairs, they might hear me. But then the yelling starts a room early, and then it gets it's just bad. And also it's a shit show. But I realized it's too sorry prep show. It's too late for me to not be a yeller. I realized today the.
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Speaker 1: Ship has sailed.
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Speaker 2: The ship has sailed, I can't yell on it, and I'm screaming, and I.
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Speaker 1: Can't stop talking the moment, I mean, I realize I'm doing it, and I can't stop doing it. Like Terry and I do the same thing as you are, having the conversation in my head, and now I'm either irritated or excited or mid plan whenever my mouth opens, and then we'll have a full conversation. And as soon as he gets to the door, I go so now. It irritates him so badly that Terry just keeps going. So smart, so smart that tam it didn't happen. He hears it and it didn't, right, that's so smart.
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Speaker 2: I'll talk for five minutes to Todd and then he'll say, are you talking to me? And I'll be like, no, I worked it out.
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Speaker 1: We are fine.
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Speaker 2: We're fine, We're me myself high, we're fine, all three of us. We're fighting, but it's fine. You know what, don't worry about it.
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Speaker 1: What are they doing for the last week or two of summer.
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Speaker 2: They're both at school doing sports, but at different times. He okay, so school is a half hour away and he has football in the morning from ten to twelve, and she has volleyball in the afternoon from three to four thirty, so it's it's honestly, it's barbaric. It's terrible. I mean, we carbled for volleyball, but and then my son will listen to something in the car on his headphones and laugh hysterically, and then I'm like, you know what, that's rude. And sometimes I'll call him on my phone from inside the car and it'll go to voicemail and I'm just talking into the blackness, and I'm just like, you know, it's really rude that you have your you're laughing at something and you're not you're sharing, like I'm alone. And then he takes his headphones off and we sit there in silence, and I'm just like, you know what, just put them back on.
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Speaker 1: Well that's the problem. The problem, you know about you get irritated. One gets irrited. I do the same thing. That you're driving. You're exhausted and you're driving back and forth. And what's weird about the whole thing is that they want you to drive them. It's not like, you know, they don't love the car pool and they don't love if like you have a helper or an assistant or something that drives them once in a while. They they want you to drive them, but that they don't want to talk to you.
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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, So what's the point. I also, my son does not trust me with it anything. I don't remember if I was on last time when we went to Kansas.
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Speaker 1: And I got yes, we heard the dinosaur story. Okay, so then we drove to Vegas and saw the stories. But tell this story, oh my god, okay, just very quickly. So he doesn't trust me with anything. He thinks I'm an idiot.
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Speaker 2: So no matter how much I scream, Jesse, I'm really smart. I'm smart. He thinks Dad is smarter than me. He doesn't care, so she'll be a stick. But anyway, So we drive to Vegas and Todd and Phoebe are meeting us the next night, and I'm like, it'll be quicker to just drive and it'll be fine a road trip. So he's in the backseat logging paleontology effects on his laptop, thank god, with his headphones on, and I have the radio up over the navigation screen on electric car. So don't drive. You're basically driving a flashlight to Vegas. Don't do it. So stupid. So anyway, so I had the radio part up. I'm not used to using that navigation, and I make one I get on one wrong freeway and I realize I go for two hours in the wrong direction. So anyway, so then I'm like covering, covering. He doesn't notice. And then we go and we charge the car twice. So we're driving and he finishes the Mesozoic era and he looks up and I'm like a lot of fires today, a lot of road closures, a lot of you know, a lot of traffic, mean, while the road's like wide open. But we go to the place we charge the car. I had to charge it again, and I realized it had not charged the first few times, the first two times because it's not free. So I wasn't used to having the app on the phone. It was just it was just I had to just, oh my god, that's I made one wrong turn. But it's your fault. I said, I was thinking about you, and you know how this year is going.
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Speaker 1: To practice me. You were on your headsets. No one was talking.
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Speaker 2: But then we saw But then when I went into the the thing, the gas station or whatever it was, the store, I saw the biggest Adirondack chair.
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Speaker 1: I saw that and it reminded me. It reminded me of Gilda Radner. Really, yes, might sit in the big chair. Yes, Edith Van was the carricter.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it was an homage. I got lost, I said, you know what, Jesse, So I went back to the car and I said, the world's biggest Adirondack chair is here? Or do you want to go sit on it? And he was like he liked that and we yeah. So then we cruised into the hotel. We stayed like off the strip because we were visiting my parents. We cruised into the hotel on in Las Vegas, moved there from Long Island, like sixteen years ago. Why did I want to know? Why did I not brag about that? But anyway, so we pull in eight percent battery, no air on on, no phone charge like nothing there both just I mean, we literally were driving the flashlight that had died and we made it nine hours.
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Speaker 1: That is terrible.
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Speaker 2: I waste so much time making stupid, careless decisions that I would I would get work done if I didn't. So much time wasted, wasted, wasted.
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Speaker 1: Terry used to have he still has a Tesla, but he used to have a rab four. Right when electric cars first came out, they only had the Toyota RAB four, and I think in Beverly Hills they were using them for like city vehicles. Anyway, I got my hands on one because we were living in the Palisades and you were so basically we did a thing where we were going back and forth. When we got married. I was living in La. Right, he was in Newport and whatever show I was on didn't get picked up, so we moved to Newport and then I got a news show, we moved up to LA and that's what we did. We just moved back and forth between LA and Newport, depending on if I had a job, right, and I and we decided to live in the Palisades. Why I have no idea, but it was really that was Richard d. It was very pretty, but it's so far and it's like got its own climate. It's like weird, and it wasn't like it is now now. The town is so beautiful and they breached the stores. It wasn't like that then, but we lived in this really cool place. It was you know mcguy ver, Richard dan Anderson. It was we were renting his house and it was like a total bachelor path. There were like no upper cabinets, there were only pullouts. I was like, where do you put a glass? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: If you can't put a glass in a pullout, it's hilarious.
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Speaker 1: I was like, five, what's he doing with that thing? Anyway? So we lived there.
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Speaker 2: Terry something right, yeah, anyway, So.
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Speaker 1: Terry had the rap four so that he could drive back and forth and not like pay for gas.
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Speaker 2: I guess right, right right, it was.
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Speaker 1: It was really far and it didn't go that long, and it took like five hours to charge in the thing back then. And so one time he was driving home and he was on the phone with me and he was still like miles away and there's so much traffic on PCH and he goes, uh oh, oh no, what he goes, there's some picture on my dashboard that just lit up. I go, what is it? He said, it's a turtle.
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Speaker 2: A turtle.
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Speaker 1: Yes, the raft four had a turtle. I think it meant go slow because you're gonna die. There was stupid.
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Speaker 2: You should be driving a turtle right now instead of this car. Oh my god, that's that's a long time that they've been around it a long time, like early two thousands.
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Speaker 1: It was early two thousands, who knew who?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never I'm not driving that car again anyway, but I go through so much gas it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: I don't drive anymore. Well, you know, it's crazy. So I started to hate driving when we were in Newport because the streets. I mean, I know this is supposed to be like a pro but the streets are very wide and they're like, it's really boring to drive everywhere, like to drive them to school. It's on the freeway and it's the seventy three, which is a nice freeway because it's not really congested or whatever, but it's really boring.
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Speaker 2: Right right right, and then you risk falling asleep.
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Speaker 1: I swear there were so many times where I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna like I had turned on the air. Oh so bad. I'm now driving in la even though it takes a long time to get everywhere, Like it's interesting, there's things to look at.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I do a lot of thinking in the car. It's we talked to me like you're you're in your driveway that's considered hot.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 1: I love those memes that are like moms understand that self care is sitting into your driveway and not going inside, because I so get that. I do that all the time because it's like you're home, so you get credit for being home, but you're not actually dealing with anyone yet, and you have a loan time.
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Speaker 2: But I'm getting texts the whole time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can sort of ignore them unless they look out the window. It's hard for me. It's hard for me right now. Okay, so you know we bought this house.
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Speaker 2: Right, you're not in though yet? Right, aren't you in your apartment?
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Speaker 1: No? So what happened was we bought the house a year ago. I tried to buy like six different houses. Three were in Newport, was whatever. Anyway, this is the house we ended up getting. So I threw a stage furniture in it, and we've been living there for a year. But now we're our permits are ready. I got my team and we're ready to start construction because we're taking it down to the stuts. So we had to move out. So I don't know if I've told this story yet, but so we own this apartment right that I'm.
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Speaker 2: Sitting in there. Oh, you can't sit in your driveway there.
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Speaker 1: But go on, Well, so this is what I'm gonna tell you. So we own this apartment and then I rented apartment on a different floor that has more bedrooms because we only have two bedrooms. I would love to tell you that the children are living downstairs and we are living upstairs, because that would make my husband very happy, but that is not what's happening. What's happening is we have a bedroom downstairs, and so he's Max and Kat and Ace, and we have a bedroom upstairs. And I gave Nikki the guest room up here because truthfully, he's going away. First semester he's going abroad and second semester when it comes home. Yeah, Nikki is he lives in La because he goes to school in LA, so he has a house. So it's really like for holidays and whatever. I don't know, it's just what made the most sense. But remember this dumb thing that I was doing where I'd wake up in our house and I would go to the gym and then come to the apartment to shower and get dressed at ever tell you that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well I'm basically doing the same thing, but I'm just going up the elevator. Did you give them a key to upstairs? Yeah, yeah, they can come up. Unfortunately, yeah, James loox. But they have like these fobs here, there's no not really a key, like you could only get to our floor if you've got this fog thing right right right, They honestly don't except for Nikki, he's up here like he just loved but he the other kids they like being downstairs. So it's fine. But here's the problem. I love living in an apartment. It's the best thing.
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Speaker 2: That's all I want. I want an apartment in a doorman building and just everything together, all my stuff. I do everything on my bed anyway, because I lived in the studio apartments forever, eat on my bed everything.
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Speaker 1: It's the best. I love it. And I've done a lot of purging, and I really I like having a purging.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.
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Speaker 1: So I've sort of condensed everything because I went from like obviously a large house when we lived in Newport, So I I did a lot of Yeah, there was like a lot of backstock.
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Speaker 2: Right that was like the Capitol, like that was a monumentary. That was a monument It was a big house, big house.
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Speaker 1: So I had a lot of backstock. I had a lot of like storage. I'm just getting rid of everything. I went through all my storage. I really like I've done the purge of the century. So I love it. I love living here. But here's what happens. You pull up to the front. It's like a fortress here. No one's getting in. No, I mean, the security is insane. There's a lot of like big name people that live in this building, and no one's getting in. But you drive up and there's like eight guys when you drive up.
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Speaker 2: Really oh, but like taking your things and like.
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Speaker 1: Him just grow what do you need? Do you need me to care anythink? And I send something upstairs for you. Let me park your car? Do you need your car? Like all the things, which is the great thing ever. I love it. I have friends that live in the building that don't park in the front. They go underneath, park their own cars and just take the elevator up because they don't want to talk to anyone. Listen, you know me, like I know the real man. Yeah, I know everyone's name. I talk Tim and Faith and Gilbert and Samuel, I know everyone we have we talk. I know Samuel hurt his ankle, I know, Tim, you know, like I know everyone's bad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would carry things for them because I feel so bad having people help me. And that's something I need to discuss the therapy. But it is a problem. I would, I would, I would say can I help you perry something? I canrry?
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Speaker 1: They won't let you. And you know, we take care of them at the holidays obviously and do all the things so and because I think maybe a lot of people don't want to talk to them, and we're so overly friendly that they're so nice does and they're so sweet and like I'll call for my car to come up, you just text them and they bring your car and if it's parked on the side, like I'll just skulk over there, you know, and go to get out, they run over to open the door. I mean, there's so nice, But the problem is when I need that extra time.
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Speaker 2: In the car, right, it's just the driveway that's coo. You can't. But also, isn't it annoying having to smile and say hi to people? No? No, it's probably the true mood. It's started with a smile.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you it really is. And I think there's something about And I know that's crazy because we're all allowed to have down moments and whatnot, but there's something about like sort of having to just put on a smile and put it on and say hi to people.
00:17:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does elevate your mood. I was a greeter at Jake Crew after college. I cannot see that it was so I was a terrible Merry Christmas. Welcome to j Crew. Please don't touch anything. I just called the sweaters. I don't know how I got here because I went to college and there are no jobs because there's a recession. But anyway, let me know if you need anything. Actually don't know.
00:18:22
Speaker 1: What was the worst thing that someone could ask you at j Crew?
00:18:28
Speaker 2: Can you help me?
00:18:33
Speaker 1: No?
00:18:33
Speaker 2: Like do you have this size too?
00:18:37
Speaker 1: Like that would just be the worst thing ever.
00:18:38
Speaker 2: Double zero? They didn't have a double zero then, so I think I do.
00:18:43
Speaker 1: Zero's mirrored. But they've also changed the sizes. Look back in the day, I was the size six. Now I'm a zero. I'm the same sung I'm just.
00:18:51
Speaker 2: Six or an eight or whatever. I'm not an eight. I don't even know what I am, but I'm not a zero. I'm nowhere near And I feel like the double zero made my side go no, but yeah, maybe, And why did they keep those pants on the bottom? The biggest pants are on the bottom of the pile in the store. It should be on the top of the pile. So you just get them and thank you. Instead you have to rifle and then they have to say, can I help you get a size? Obviously not, it's fast.
00:19:20
Speaker 1: I will tell you that I have a vintage box and a vintage closet which I also purged. I went through it and I only really kept things that I thought some of the kids would want or maybe like if I'm lucky enough to have a grandchild that's interested in that kind of thing someday. So I keep put really good pieces. But some of the things I pulled out. Max wanted some stuff, Cat wanted some stuff. I'm like, wear it now, Why are you going to wait for me to die? Right?
00:19:45
Speaker 2: So take it so I can see it on you.
00:19:47
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also I pulled out a few things that I was like, oh, I might want to wear this, and I tried them on and they totally fit me now, to totally fit me now, right, And I'm telling you what I buy now is.
00:20:02
Speaker 2: Zero about them. You were bigger.
00:20:04
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm telling you, like I've always been thin. My body's changed since I have had children, and I definitely can, you know, go through phases of life that would be five eight pounds more. But basically, I feel like I've been the same size for like twenty years except for the pregnancies. Right, So I put on like skirts and pants and I'm telling you they fit me perfectly and they are size eight.
00:20:30
Speaker 2: So interesting? Do you think they know they didn't swell? I don't know. That's so interesting. But also I realized that the things I bought like back when I was younger are vintage now, Like I didn't buy them vintage. I bought them new, and they are vintage.
00:20:45
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. My vintage closet are the things I bought new.
00:20:48
Speaker 2: It's so depressing, it's so upsetting. I'm vintage, I'm vintage.
00:20:53
Speaker 1: I'm vintage as well.
00:20:54
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's I think the pandemic made us so much older, faster, because we were in like molasses for two years just or whatever you petrify things in, and then we started our lives again and we didn't realize we're two and a half years older, and our kids were two and a half years older.
00:21:11
Speaker 1: It's like the movie Manifest, the TV show Manifest when they lost five years.
00:21:19
Speaker 2: Right.
00:21:24
Speaker 1: Max left this morning, Okay, to go back to Tufts. I shed a few tears this morning. That was so yeah. And then so she left this morning. But I don't think school actually starts till the day after Labor Day for her. But she's a junior this year, and she's living off campus, and so she needed to go and get like her little house settled and rightwever. So she's going to do that, and then she's going with a friend to Cape Cod for a few days.
00:21:52
Speaker 2: So whatever, it's so nice.
00:21:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's going to see Kristin Chenowith has a show called The Queen of Versa that is playing in Boston.
00:22:02
Speaker 2: I'm based on the documentary. Yes, okay, so she's going to that.
00:22:07
Speaker 1: So she's going to that on Thursday, and she's gonna go see christ And I love Christin. I wish I wanted to go, but I could it because of the other kids. So she's gonna go, and she's going to go wherever and do her thing, and then she'll start school like the day after Labor Day. Katerina. Her school starts on Monday, so Kat is case good Monday. But kat is a senior this year, and so yesterday and today she has been at school. They're doing like, you know, like how to apply to college sort of things.
00:22:47
Speaker 2: And you're not sad about that?
00:22:48
Speaker 1: No, no, And I'm also completely not involved. I've told this story before, but I will tell it one time again for people with young kids or people that are in this age group. Is that when I had to put Maxiniki in kindergarten private school, it was the worst experience of my life. Like the literally applications, No, I suffered it. One we wanted to know this one school. One got in one, I mean one didn't get in. One got on the wait list. I cried. I the moms were so fucking mean about the whole I was a disaster. And I said it's a and I said, I will never ever ever suffer this again. So when the twins got to lead, yeah, I said, here's a guidance counselor a private one. I'm going to pay for it. And if you want to go somewhere good or you want choices, I suggest you study. But she'll be here to guide you. I'm here for emotional and moral support whenever you want it. And that's and that's it. And they both ended up in great places or whatever it really did. I mean, yeah, and Kat is a self starter. She's got she's Terry's brain. She's so smart.
00:23:58
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, that's good. We don't we don't and nobody wants certain brains here. My kids, my brain, and my husband's brained together. So but also wait, oh, I know Christian China was also because she worked on my brother's show Trial and Error. She was the suspect in the second season. She's amazing. She's so funny. She's so funny, she's so talented, so talented, and so sweet.
00:24:23
Speaker 1: One of the most generous people.
00:24:25
Speaker 2: Yes, she went to Vancouver to shoot that show. I mean that's really nice. I mean she was the star of the show. But it was really she's lovely. She's really lovely.
00:24:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her. And I texted her and I was like, Max is coming to see your show. She's like, oh, here's why this is it? Tell her to come backstage?
00:24:40
Speaker 2: But why.
00:24:40
Speaker 1: She's so sweet.
00:24:42
Speaker 2: It's really nice.
00:24:42
Speaker 1: They aren't a lovelace so cat, there aren't a lot of nice people. No, that's why we highlight the nice people we do. Oh and can I tell you on the more thing? I noticed when I when I walk, when like when I'm dealing, when I'm talking to someone, like if it's like someone at the post, like mailbox places any where.
00:25:00
Speaker 2: I always compliment something. I like your lipstick, you look so pretty. But why does he do that?
00:25:07
Speaker 1: I do that too. I always like, like, your nails are so nice.
00:25:12
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yes, I think I want them to go. I really like your lipstick. I'm wearing lipstick.
00:25:24
Speaker 1: No, I noticed, no one ever says anything.
00:25:28
Speaker 2: I don't get any compliments. There's no I really like that. There is like that's amazing that you can go out like or do you know you're in my jama the confidence Yes, at two in the morning, I think I can be in pajamas.
00:25:44
Speaker 1: All right. So kat is so she's got a couple of things and then she starts Monday. Ace has been in Miami again. He's been in Miami a lot this summer. Oh really, yeah. Or one of our former nannies who's like a daughter to me, Daniel, she got married and move to Miami, but we see her all the time. And yeah I talked to her or whatever. Anyway, so he goes to Camp Danielle. We call it.
00:26:09
Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. Oh that's amazing.
00:26:11
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he's coming home tomorrow and then he's got a little orientation on Thursday, and he goes back Monday. And then Nicki, I don't remember if I told you this, but I said, NICKI is going abroad first semester and Max is going second semester.
00:26:25
Speaker 2: Where are they going?
00:26:27
Speaker 1: Nicki's going to Florence and Max's going to Paris?
00:26:29
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Paris is so pretty. I noticed during the Olympics. I've never been obviously, I've never been to years. Let's Psyche told me night right, right, Yeah, Psyche told me I'm going to Italy. I really don't believe that. I mean, I don't know. Maybe my ashes. Do you know that if you get cremated, you sit up what your body sits up? I mean, I can't catch a break. I just I planned on just doing The body reacts and sits up. Sometimes I read it on the Internet during one of my during one of my three am ambient fused fueled google searches, real that and what would JFK and Carolyn look like now and how they look gorgeous, They look like they did then because they don't know. And then I watched their wedding documentary. It's just so sad. It's so sad, so sad, and to be that sister of hers, you don't the last people you want to die with is JFK. Junior in his stunning way.
00:27:30
Speaker 1: I mean she ever remember her?
00:27:33
Speaker 2: No, that's like the last that's that's just she shouldn't have gotten on the plae.
00:27:38
Speaker 1: Did they even mention her in the documentary?
00:27:40
Speaker 2: No? No, no, not even in the wedding documentary. She didn't even know nothing but nothing like there's no you just I have a feeling she was. She was sidelined a lot in life. That she should never travel with the Kennedy I think that was the persons so well.
00:28:01
Speaker 1: That should be just a rule of thumb for everyone.
00:28:04
Speaker 2: Don't travel with a candy, don't travel with Kennedy, don't travel and don't fly with the broken foot. That was devastating. I'm still sad about it. I'm a love of some things.
00:28:14
Speaker 1: Do you remember where you were when.
00:28:15
Speaker 2: You heard yes, I was a crunch the gym. I went to crunch well, yeah, I was a crunch when it happened, but I was also a crunch on nine to eleven, and I was like, one plane had hit the towers, and I was like, I'm on a weight list, and if I get off the weight list, do I take this bad class. I didn't take it because I didn't get off, so it was more important to a lot of people. But I didn't know what was happening. I know what I would have done had I gotten off the weight list. So you would have taken the I would have taken the glass. Yes, oh my god. I mean it's not like I could do anything, but it was very like yeah, and I didn't know what had happened yet, so for all I knew.
00:29:01
Speaker 1: Right because at first they were saying it was just like a plane, little plane accident.
00:29:06
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So I mean, but enough people took the class that there were still none of us standing by so near the TVs.
00:29:16
Speaker 1: You're telling me that ten people will stand outside of spin class waiting for someone to drop out.
00:29:23
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was this woman Stacy Griffin who lives in New York now, who is one of the like soul cycle teachers, and she's like famous. Now it's so crazy. But she was teaching and then I moved to Equinox with her. And one time I was in a class and the fire alarm went off and nobody left. No one left, No one left, no one left. Everybody left the gym, even the guy who I've only every time I went to the gym. He was on the elliptical machine. I've never I thought he came with it, Like, he didn't leave, he got off the elliptical machine. Firefighters came in. There was smoke, the mics went out, the lights went out, and she was just screaming at us like sometimes there's a fire, you need to climb. So then none of us left. I mean that was another thing. People were waiting at the door to see if fire is chasing you, pedal petal the fire is it? So do you want to look good or do you want to live? So in the elevator after, I was like, I can't believe we stayed during a fire and someone just goes vain. We all just stood there and that is a minute.
00:30:30
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, I gotta tell you so you now I'm taking pilates.
00:30:33
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, tell me because my price ups are really.
00:30:37
Speaker 1: I want you to know why I did pilates. This is this is Leana Levy. Okay, so she created the form of method, you know, the one I go to that's all twenty six year old supermodels in me.
00:30:48
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because this is Leana Levy. Stop it.
00:30:53
Speaker 1: How old is she? It doesn't matter. Listen, listen to me, Liz.
00:30:58
Speaker 2: She's so my daughter when she could plans let me see.
00:31:02
Speaker 1: No, but I've been in class with her before, So she she what what is plates?
00:31:09
Speaker 2: Exactly? What do you do? You stand on a thing?
00:31:12
Speaker 1: Have you never taken plates?
00:31:14
Speaker 2: No? But I do yoga like religiously. I hate yoga, but not not meditation. I always say one home and I go home. I don't do any like meditative yoga. I do the Niasa flow, which is really hard. I love it. It's my only form of any kind of like therapy.
00:31:31
Speaker 1: What do you love about it?
00:31:32
Speaker 2: It's actually not true. I just got a therapist. But the jury's out. I think she feels too sorry for me.
00:31:37
Speaker 1: She tells her, you told me you were going to get a new therapist. Then you have to like tell them all your shit. Wouldn't it be nice just to hand them a dossier and.
00:31:44
Speaker 2: Be like, write my book. She read my book.
00:31:48
Speaker 1: Perfect.
00:31:48
Speaker 2: He listened to my book and I didn't tell her to. So we're all caught up.
00:31:52
Speaker 1: Perfect.
00:31:53
Speaker 2: We're all caught up pretty much. She knows, you know, but I get a lot of head tilting and like, oh, And I asked her if she gives advice, and she said, do you want advice? And I said, yes, I won't take it, but I do want it. But she used to be a TV executive, which is a blessing and a curse. First, so I think I met her back in like the early.
00:32:12
Speaker 1: Two thousand and now she's a therapist.
00:32:14
Speaker 2: We met, Yes, that happens a lot.
00:32:16
Speaker 1: But she's going to real estate.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: Well my last therapy. Yes, real estate is a big one. But she yeah, So I can like pitch her ideas and then we can brainstorm. But then I'm worried she'll pitch something that I don't like and like my last therapist, and we'll argue and then you know, then I have to go.
00:32:37
Speaker 1: With your idea.
00:32:39
Speaker 2: What if she takes my idea? You know what, You're right, You're.
00:32:43
Speaker 1: Right, I might have a TV executive.
00:32:48
Speaker 2: If I find out she didn't. Me's just market What.
00:32:51
Speaker 1: If she's just market time, waiting to get back in the business.
00:32:57
Speaker 2: One idea, it's not gonna be mine. But she also I wonder if she didn't put me on a show, but she noticed that she did. I think I met you.
00:33:10
Speaker 1: So I'm careful what ideas you give her, because in the court, if you say I told her about that idea and she stole it from me, and they go and then she sits there and she says, I'm a therapist, let me tell you something. She's crazy, she lies, she's a compulsive life. This is a liar.
00:33:34
Speaker 2: That's why she's in therapy.
00:33:37
Speaker 1: There's reasonable doubt.
00:33:38
Speaker 2: There's reasonable that. And also there's a therapist character in this. So obviously it's mine. But that's okay, okay, So you so you like, all right, I'm gonna tell you what I don't like about yoga. Okay, tell me it's too repetitive.
00:33:54
Speaker 1: There's move one is like this art, and then move to is this our in that arm? And then three is this arm that arm in your head. It's like it's the same thing. Oh, it's like building on that. It's just I go go again.
00:34:08
Speaker 2: But zoom yoga is a whole like it's just the yell. I'm always yelling and the dogs and like just it's so, it's.
00:34:17
Speaker 1: So you do yoga at home.
00:34:21
Speaker 2: I do it at home because two of three of my teachers one I don't take any more, are all like since the pandemic on zoom because Yoga Works closed, which was a big employer of all the yoga teachers in LA, and they closed over the pandemic and then they turned they got off by a tech company and it's like an app now and it's all influencers. So I still take their classes, but now I take two classes in person on the weekends, which is amazing, one each day. It's amazing to be in person and get adjusted. And I mean, I miss my dogs. I miss my dogs, and I miss the chair I lean on, but I don't have to like turn five heters on and it's just nice. It's nice. I missed going anywhere.
00:35:01
Speaker 1: I like, I need an appointment because if I'm doing it at home, I can stop.
00:35:05
Speaker 2: Of course, yes, that is that is a yeah, that's a problem. I know. But they're watching, they're like on you know, on cameras and stuff.
00:35:13
Speaker 1: I don't care. I would leave.
00:35:16
Speaker 2: I do sometimes actually or I hide and I to share in text or play wordle but what.
00:35:24
Speaker 1: But the plates thing is okay, so it's two different things. There's the reformer, which is that like torture instrument looking thing, right, and so what I what I like about it is you lie down a lot.
00:35:38
Speaker 2: Oh I like that? Yeah, okay, I think I can do that. Is it hard on your knees? Because I have no really.
00:35:46
Speaker 1: No, this is the whole thing about pilates is that it's a it's honestly, it's totally honest, you know, being for real for a second, Like it's meant to be something that's for recovery. So ballet dancers, it's a length strengthening.
00:36:02
Speaker 2: Bony look like a ballet answer.
00:36:04
Speaker 1: So it's like very lengthening and it's slow. It's not like a fast thing. So it's really good for you know, older people. But like I'm telling you, this whole class is twenty six year old supermodels, right, I mean, Leanna's like insane, But like all the instructors, they look so great and they are the strongest, and there's really all I have to tell you. There's all body types. It's not just everyone that looks like Leona, like there's all different body types, but it's all about this core strength, which and as I as we get older, you know, like look, yeah, do I want to look good. Yes, But I'm not a sports illustrated model. I'm never going to be. I have cell you like I have my whole life. It just is what it is. No, I'm just saying, but yeah, I mean I want to like be functioning and strong for my kids, right, you know whatever, because I want to be we have a long time to irritate them. So I I love doing this class. So all right, So there's reformers and it's like there's different things they use, like bands and balls and very light little weights but it's like small muscle movements. Okay, no, you I'm telling you, you'll love it. And then they have Matt classes which is not on that machine, which is on the floor, and I go to one at the Beverly Glenn Center.
00:37:30
Speaker 2: Really you could meet me. I'll meet you, because I was driving by there the other day and I was like, it's so sad that I'll never be at the bet Beverly Glenn. I'll meet you. I'm up there all the time.
00:37:42
Speaker 1: I know. It's the best, and they are you good in the hot.
00:37:46
Speaker 2: I'm fat, young, but in the hot I thought you meant that. Wait, I thought you meant the Beverly Center Mall.
00:37:51
Speaker 1: No Beverly Glenn at the top of that.
00:37:54
Speaker 2: I'm there all the time.
00:37:56
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so good. And they play good music and it's on the mat and they have like again balls and little shirt, little weights and things, and you just use. I was there this morning and you just you're drenched. And I can't tell you how good it feels to be strong. But I have to tell you when some of the young girls, I have to like stop for a few minutes, like I'm so happy.
00:38:19
Speaker 2: I know. You know my friend though, who's a sculpt teacher, yoga sculped at eight and she's an amazing shape. She would take my Sunday yoga class with me and like that's like hot, plass, It's not. It's hot because you sweat so much and she can't do it, and I'm like, how is that possible? I think when you're not used to doing things, I'm totally going to do that class with you because I really need that. I need something different. And my triceeps, I saw my arms from behind the other day. Oh, it was like, now the ways in which I can hold my arms in public are I can fold them, I can put my hands on my hips if but my back is up against a wall. I literally have to stand against a wall all the time now because the backs of my arms, my elbows. I mean, I just I can't even believe it.
00:39:06
Speaker 1: Well, forget the elbows. I tried on a shirt that I had el you know, like you remember all the used to have holes in the knees. Yeah, I tried on a shirt that had slits in the elbows. I was like, that is just the meanest garment I ever seen.
00:39:20
Speaker 2: Yes, well, the shoulder cutouts were very in for a while. You know what else? Do you know that Tim Walls is sixty?
00:39:27
Speaker 1: Is that right?
00:39:29
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, but he's from Minnesota, so he's like he's but if you go to Middle Okay, so Brad Pitt is also sixty. So like, I think it's like an LA thing, not LA thing, but it's a coastalish kind of thing maybe, And people who grew up in the Midwest are up against the more. I mean, I couldn't believe that. I think I was in bed for two days after that.
00:39:53
Speaker 1: Well, this is why I know cryotherapy doesn't work, because we you remember, we used to. So we have this skincare line, right Console Beauty that we sell on a shop channel and shop HQ, and they're based out of Minnesota and eating Prairie.
00:40:08
Speaker 2: Oh may my right remain laws are Yeah.
00:40:10
Speaker 1: So we used to go there once a month for years. Now we do it virtually, although Terry's going back to Minnesota actually this weekend, but not it can be thirty below yeah.
00:40:26
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:40:27
Speaker 1: And what I realized was my joke was like, oh this, why go to cryotherapy Just get out of the car in Minnesota in the winter because you get three minutes walking from your car to the whatever.
00:40:38
Speaker 2: And really it's a yeah.
00:40:41
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If pryotherapy actually worked, people that lived in Minnesota would look younger than all of us. Yes.
00:40:47
Speaker 2: And also we went to Syracuse and I was and it looks so good. I was called all the time.
00:40:57
Speaker 1: Enerpy does not work. I say, it's a waste of money.
00:40:59
Speaker 2: It does, it's a waste time. And also the cold plunge. Someone a friend of mine told me that she was doing the cold plunge and she lost all the sweet, and it turns out she was on Ozimbic. So I was dunking myself in like negative four hundred degrees every Sunday, and I was like, I don't look like her dying. Just every extremity, just like just numb and ruined.
00:41:26
Speaker 1: I love the idea of the cold plunge, but it terrifies me. And then when we were in Idaho, they have at that club we belonged to. They had it at the Spa and my son Nikki was like, oh, come with me. They have a sauna and a cold plunge and I was like right, and I showed up and the cold plunch was like filthy because so many people had plunged.
00:41:48
Speaker 2: Oh they don't clean after plunging.
00:41:51
Speaker 1: I think like people have like sunscreen on and what it was just a film.
00:41:56
Speaker 2: There was a film.
00:41:57
Speaker 1: There was a film.
00:41:59
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Well, I got Todd a cold climbed for Father's Day, but I didn't buy the chiller because that was expensive. So I got basically, oh, you told me a rubber bucket. So I've been trying to return it. We have one hundred days to return it. And now I'm like, you have to put that back in the box and you have to close the box for me and take it to the mailbox store. It's too heavy. So now he has to pack up his day gift and get it back or we're gonna wind. I'm mad at him. I'm like, are you just going to let that rubber tub sit there for one hundred and one days? And I yell it across the house so he doesn't hear me, and then I mean and I start one room too early. So now mad because we have this rubber bucket that I bought without the chiller. Oh my god, it was a thousand dollars and I shopped now on Instagram.
00:42:47
Speaker 1: I buy everything on Instagram. What'd you buy?
00:42:50
Speaker 2: I bought this dog bed that's supposed to like calm my dog down, but she has to get into like this pocket and I go through tube, but she's like scared, so I try to show her I in there, like I just giving her my out event and calling it a day.
00:43:04
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny. Our dogs now our apartment dogs.
00:43:12
Speaker 2: How many dogs do you have? Two? Three?
00:43:14
Speaker 1: Two? Okay, so we have two dogs and then Max has her cat. But because Max was home all summer, a nice chunk of the summer. The dogs have been living with my housekeeper because she's like a big yard or whatever, and you know how cute.
00:43:32
Speaker 2: It'll be like irreconcilable differences when she wanted to move in with her nanny exactly.
00:43:38
Speaker 1: So what we did was we let the dogs have the run in the house like four days a week, and then they would go with our housekeeper on the weekends, and so that the cat, Vincent could walk around on the weekends.
00:43:52
Speaker 2: Right, it's nice, yeah? Do they so they really fight? They are like they don't like each other.
00:43:58
Speaker 1: So it's not gone well when we've tried to introduce them, okay, But what's interesting is so, first of all, Blanca, God bless her, has I don't know what she has done to my dogs that think are their carpet trained, but they seem, knock on wood, to be actually perhaps trained house train trained. Now. Oh yeah, so they've so far been really good in the apartment, no accidents thus far. And then we've been keeping them separate from Vincent. But last night or alta yesterday, weirdly, Roxy, one of the dogs was outside Max's door sniffing under the door for Vincent and Vincent and Vincent was on the other side sniffing for roxy.
00:44:42
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a movie that's Lady in the that's a movie that's a sequel to Lady in the Turn. That's adorable. It was also walking them, though that's not in my job description.
00:44:55
Speaker 1: Harry did that, Terry does it, and the and Ace and Cap do it. Although I went with them yesterday once. But I don't. I don't. I do everything. I don't feed them and I don't walk them. I play with them them.
00:45:10
Speaker 2: I mean, my my dogs are they get better treatment than anyone here. It's bad. But I don't walk them. They go in the backyard.
00:45:20
Speaker 1: So exactly this whole walking thing I mean, And you have to understand, I think that I'm just resentful that when first of all, I love them, I really do. There's the cutest things. Well, that's why you don't want them. I didn't want them. And we went to go in the pandemic, go get one dog, and Terry insisted we get too, And they're great and I love them. And now they're very codependent on doing the whole thing. But you know it's hard to have two dogs. Yeah, one is a lot easier and Terry's like, no, they need to find it.
00:45:56
Speaker 2: It's like when you have another kid, you're always it's exponential.
00:46:00
Speaker 1: Ten. So anyway, so when we first got them in the pandemic, who do you think got up with them every day at six am? Terry me, oh, every day six am. I would get them up and take am outside and feed them, wait and try to train.
00:46:21
Speaker 2: Enough. They crash, well, crash hurt his back, so he can't really feel it when he has to poop, which is.
00:46:30
Speaker 1: Terrible.
00:46:31
Speaker 2: I know, it's terrible. And it's also terrible when I'm lying on my back and he lies and he's very.
00:46:41
Speaker 1: Relaxed, and does he poop on you?
00:46:44
Speaker 2: Well, one time I was in Chivasna and yoga. I was like, it's so nice having my dogs here and like doing yoga. And then I pulled him onto my stomach and he was making eye contact with me the whole time and kissing me and vibrating a little bit, and I was like, we're really having a moment. And then it's bostia ends or whatever, and he just like crawls off of me and leaves three duty balls. Well, so all the time he was like folks kissing me. He was we had a moment for sure. I mean it's really like it was. It was a real like f you it was a dominant Do you think it was a dominance thing when he pooped on me?
00:47:29
Speaker 1: I mean maybe he has a fetish.
00:47:32
Speaker 2: Maybe, but he used to when he got excited, he would ship and he would do he would poop when he got excited. And he makes these left turns, little left turns, and it would just fine. It just our house is an ad for nature's miracle. And I still like let him on the bed and like what he doesn't poop on the bed anymore, but he but we have to carry him up and down the stairs and he's like a giant like baby. It really is crazy.
00:47:56
Speaker 1: You know what's weird.
00:47:58
Speaker 2: He's the happiest little guy because he shits were every months.
00:48:03
Speaker 1: Mine is finally good in the house. We'll see if that continues. But you know what I find funny, Like I find the dogs like I don't want them all. They don't sleep on my bed.
00:48:13
Speaker 2: That's smart, that's smart. I get I have back trouble because my one dog is so sleeps with her but on top of my shoulder for comfort.
00:48:23
Speaker 1: That's that's not my thing. They sleep with the kids, which.
00:48:27
Speaker 2: Is they could as they should.
00:48:29
Speaker 1: They sleep with the kids, and they're cool with that. But when they walk around like I feel like they're dirty, you know what I mean. But for some reason, Vincent the cat he was, he walks all over the kitchen, the countertog and.
00:48:42
Speaker 2: We are cats. That's why I think they're smarter than us.
00:48:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vincent is very smart. He's very smart. But also I just find him to be clean, Like it doesn't gross me out when he's walking around with that.
00:48:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, dogs don't gross me out though, obviously. And I like them kiss me and I've convinced myself that their mouths are self cleaning ovens and all of that. That ship is said. So they're on the furniture everything everything. I share my meds with them from having what they had Evan and my special bagels that I buy that are so expensive, my protein bagels. Crash is obsessed with them. He would knock over a garbage can with his little bad back to get to them. He goes, he just felt it. They're called the better brand. And I posted a video of him. I came upstairs in his head in my room was stuck in a bag and his whole entire snout and everything were stuck in the bag. And I pulled the bag off of the space and he had the bagel in his mouth. And then today I was carrying him up the stairs and a giant wad of bagel falls out of his mouth. And I don't know how he got it. He could have gotten into the refrigerator. He'd just becomes super human when he gets near those bagels. Sleep. I'll sneak one into my room in like a pocket, in a sweatshirt, a bold of sweatshirt, at like two in the morning, and I'll that's a whole other thing. And he will. He's on his back, flips over, comes up on the bed angry too, like really angry, and just like goes for it. And I keep feeding him because I can't. I just want him to go away. I've been struggling, that's it.
00:50:25
Speaker 1: I've been on a card kick for the last three days. I have no idea why. But have you tried hero bread?
00:50:32
Speaker 2: That's good too.
00:50:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really hard, but you want to know, it's so crazy now that you just said that. So we were in Las Vegas, this just for twenty four hours, so we went, so just me and Terry. So our friend Richard Marks was playing in Vegas with really looking Yeah. So he was playing with Rick Springfield and they were He and Daisy were like, hey, we're going to be there. Come and you know, I mean, who didn't love doctor Noah Drake.
00:50:58
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Right, So show General Hospital and Laura the whole thing, so Black John Stamos when he was on the Regis Building ship. Regis and Kathy Lee I stayed home from school.
00:51:13
Speaker 1: They were they were just the best.
00:51:14
Speaker 2: It was.
00:51:16
Speaker 1: So we go to So we go to Las Vegas and it was really it was weirdly, it was just very mellow, you know.
00:51:23
Speaker 2: We just it was like fun.
00:51:25
Speaker 1: No, we just went because Richard and Daisy were gonna be oh my god, senior moment. Yeah. No, it's fine. By the way, I've probably forgotten to So so we we fly there. We stayed at Bellagio and they I like caviar and they have a Petrosian cafe right now in the lobby there. So we like sat there and we ate and we drank and walked around a little bit and then we went over to the show. So the show was amazing. I forgot how many.
00:51:53
Speaker 2: You know.
00:51:53
Speaker 1: It's funny because I think Rick Springfield only saying Jesse's girl. But he has like a lot of very good songs that I forgot that he did.
00:52:01
Speaker 2: What else? He probably can't? You know? How do he look? Was it depressednme?
00:52:07
Speaker 1: Or now he's shredded?
00:52:11
Speaker 2: He's shredded? Really that's good?
00:52:15
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Richard are both like First of all, they both have the best hair.
00:52:21
Speaker 2: We used to call Richard Marks in college. We call him little Man big hair. Yeah, he has got the best hair, really does.
00:52:28
Speaker 1: It's great. He's so handsome and he's so talented. Jesus. Yeah, the two that were great. So we did that and then we went to Delilah's.
00:52:37
Speaker 2: What's that?
00:52:38
Speaker 1: Oh you've never been to Delilah's.
00:52:40
Speaker 2: What is it? Stripe Gone?
00:52:42
Speaker 1: Yes?
00:52:42
Speaker 2: I was there.
00:52:43
Speaker 1: There's one in La but I have to say the one in Vegas is just fabulous. It's sort of like a very cool retro nightclub where you're not allowed to take photos, so which it's awesome, so you don't feel like everyone's just got their phones out videoing. And the food's amazing and it's like, you know, gilded palm trees and whatnot. And they have live music like old school live beautiful bands and things or whatever, and everyone's dressed beautifully and then they have burlesque dancers, not topless or anything, just bur less dancing on different audiums. And the food is amazing. Oh yeah, it's like a steakhouse. I mean, but they also had things like pigs in a blanket and chicken fingers, but like phenomenal, really great cocktails. So anyway, so we went there and we had a late night dinner with them, and then we Terry and I had breakfast the next day and came home. But we went to breakfast, and I wanted this is all this entire story was to tell you about my bagel.
00:53:52
Speaker 2: So I'm on this carb.
00:53:53
Speaker 1: Kick, and you know, I'm at the point of my life where when I you know how when you really want something, you eat everything but that thing.
00:54:01
Speaker 2: Yes, and then it winds up. I'm like, I should have just had French fries. It would have been so much better than having like nine pieces of gluten free cheesecake.
00:54:10
Speaker 1: Exist.
00:54:11
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so.
00:54:12
Speaker 1: I'm really into just eating the thing. You want to go. Look, I had the pigs in the blanket, I had the chicken fingers, I have French fries. I did the whole thing. And then the next morning we get to breakfast and I wanted They had mats of ole soup, which.
00:54:28
Speaker 2: Was so great, idea.
00:54:31
Speaker 1: Mots of ale soup. And then I just wanted like scrambled egg whites and a buttered bagel. I ordered the bagel, and I ordered the whole thing, and it comes and Terry gets his and he's got an everything bagel and he looks at mine and he goes, you got assessing me bagel? And I said yeah. He goes, oh, I didn't know they had those. I go, yeah, why'd you get in everything bagel? I said, you don't like garlic? And he said, well, I thought it was just plain or everything. And I didn't want a plain bagel. I go, oh, here, take mine. I'll just get a New York And he thought I was being nice, but the truth was I like it. If I wouldn't eat it, it's.
00:55:10
Speaker 2: Got to be perfect, right. It wasn't like just enough right.
00:55:17
Speaker 1: So I asked a new bagel, a little crispy, right delicious, And so when they brought it, it was like really like hot out from the toaster, right, and so then I buttered it, and then I put a slice of tomato and my egg whites and a.
00:55:32
Speaker 2: Little salt and pepper. Delicious. Was it as good as like a New York bagel? Did they fly their water in?
00:55:38
Speaker 3: You know?
00:55:39
Speaker 1: I would say it was delicious and totally worth it. But nothing's in New York bagel.
00:55:45
Speaker 2: I mean, I used to eat so many of those. It was. I would eat so many of those, and I would my first job at Bridleguy magazine fired. I would go to the bagel store downstairs, and I would get a bagel. I would go up to my office and I would scoop out the middle and I would throw it out, and then I would eat the bagel, and then I would eat the middle.
00:56:10
Speaker 1: Later.
00:56:11
Speaker 2: It was a new garbage. It was a new back. Why not just why not just like like what you're saying, like, why not just eat the middle when it's clean?
00:56:22
Speaker 1: I know, why save it for a trash snack for later?
00:56:25
Speaker 2: And I after trash snack. I've had so many trash snacks. I wrote a pilot once where a woman ill this. A woman sprays a cleaning spray on a piece of cake so she won't eat it and then she's still like tempted to eat it, and the executive was like, ew, I've never seen anyone do that before. I'm like, you're not a person, then you're a baby. Everyone's done that. We've all done, like pouring water on a bread basket when you were out with a new couple and the woman like wanted it. I'm so sorry I pour pepper and water on the bread.
00:56:56
Speaker 1: I used to have a friend that would bring things to the restaurant, and at first I was like, Oh, that's cute, and then I got so irritated by it. Why she would bring like siete chips to javiers or you know, bring like a bunch of like healthier desserts and throw them out on the table at the restaurant at the end. So we're allowed to do that, yeah, but you don't talk me about it. I noticed she never ate those things.
00:57:26
Speaker 2: Oh she's an enabler, that's that's yeah.
00:57:30
Speaker 1: And I thought maybe she wanted it for her husband so he wouldn't eat all the chips or whatever. But it's like, I don't know, don't push that on me.
00:57:39
Speaker 2: Right, I've done that before, where I've brought a cake to someone's house and left it there.
00:57:43
Speaker 1: Just to be mean, Just to be mean. My friend Paul Casell, he has a cookie company called Paul Casel Bakes and he's an actor. Also, he's he's in this new David Mammott phone coming out. But I think in his lull period he started this cookie company because he's like an insanely talented baker.
00:58:06
Speaker 2: Oh anyway, I.
00:58:08
Speaker 1: Haven't spoken to him in a while, but we have really good mutual friends. And texted me the other day and he was like, Hey, it's Paul. You know, I saw you know, you launched this clothing line. I just wanted to send you some cookies. And I was like, that is so sweet and I'm so happy for you. And we had like a very nice you know and your friends with someone from a long time ago, but like you had such like moments together that.
00:58:30
Speaker 2: You can just go all in a way. Yeah.
00:58:33
Speaker 1: So we had this really beautiful texta chain and he sent me the I did a video of it the other day and Max has a TikTok of our taste is because we literally opened the box and there were like nine different kinds of cookies in there and we ate every single cookie.
00:58:47
Speaker 2: What kind of what. I've been eating a lot of corps too, And we have whoppers left over from Phoebe's birthday party. I don't like money night, I now I love them, and I like them in the refrigerator. I like any kind of like like bult nicorice and white, but like any can't well, yeah, that's a malt. I'm not a malt person, but I'll eat it. And milk does. I don't know why. But now we have all this leftover candy from the movie Night.
00:59:16
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know what I have that I just realized I left in here so I wouldn't eat anymore. So we belong to this Wrinkles. These are white chocolate non perels.
00:59:28
Speaker 2: Those are non perels. Ye oh right, Because they're non perels, they're bigger.
00:59:33
Speaker 1: See their little like balls, you know, white chocolate little disk These are some of my favorite things. So we belong to this club. And at dessert, they give you this tiny, little like human sized tray, like maybe one per person of these, right, and they put it on the table. And of course, as soon as they put it on the table, I'm immediately counting how many are in the dish, and how many people are sitting at the table, so I know a second one, right, yeah? And then I noticed like who hasn't taken one? And I wonder if they're going to take it or I could just take it. And then this happens to me every time we're there. And then there's a couple of service there that know how much I like them, and they literally bring me this is the second bag. They bring me two bags of them to put in my purson take home.
01:00:18
Speaker 2: Is this a country club?
01:00:20
Speaker 1: It's like a country club without the country. It's like a social club.
01:00:23
Speaker 2: Oh that's so nice.
01:00:25
Speaker 1: It's so nice. It's really sexy.
01:00:27
Speaker 2: I my brother belonged to Soho House briefly, and we used to joke that just to work like some one of his friends, I got him in. But we used to joke that people would always say because people always be like who you're with to my brother because there's like no way like he was a member. And then we were like, if you jumped off the roof, it would be like the guest of whose nest he was jumped?
01:00:54
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's so funny.
01:00:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, that place made me so uncomfortable though, it really did. I was so afraid I was going to fall down the stairs or I don't even know.
01:01:04
Speaker 1: So I don't know who designed Yeah, I don't know who designed the furniture there, but it's very I mean, I one could use the word eclectic, but that would mean it made sense.
01:01:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't mismatched.
01:01:19
Speaker 1: And the chair heights are wrong for the tables and they're uncomfortable.
01:01:23
Speaker 2: And we did meetings there for two broke girls, and I fought against it for writer meetings because I was like, going to write the guy or girl has to pay like eighteen dollars to park there and then order some kind of like curried like one yogurt carrot for like another eighteen dollars. I just felt that, but I was I had a meeting there and I had gotten into a little car accident on my way, so I brought my my bumper was still in my back and I was coming up in the elevator and this guy was like Liz, and he's like, I recognized you by your bumper, and then I had it next to me at the table on the floor and like the weight. The wait staff was horrified. They're like, could you move your bumper? I'm sorry, place is so snobby. You can't even have a bumper like the whole bumper plate. No, but it was a big chunk of the bumper. It was enough that would fit into one of my giant like cloth bags. I don't belong there. I don't belong. I don't belong any I don't belong there are the way?
01:02:21
Speaker 1: You're looking really good? Are you? Are you just still going to your carouselan.
01:02:26
Speaker 2: Parison West Hollywood. I don't want to even but I yes, I go, let me in. You have But I went to Olga who also works. I go to Lena, who was the owner, and I also go to Olga Max my daughter, Oh she does go. I mean, it's just such an indulgence, and I shouldn't. I just I love on my glasses.
01:02:48
Speaker 1: Do you look really good? Though?
01:02:50
Speaker 2: I need botox? Look that's how do I look? But my my botox person got arrested and went to jail. And now she now she lives in Hawaii on a street. Lucky. But I don't have someone anymore.
01:03:08
Speaker 1: Why did she get arrested?
01:03:09
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it was like I think it was like reckless drunk driving. I had her all wrong, is all I'll say I had her all wrong, and now she's like a dominatrix, and you know, maybe living in Hawaii, have to talk.
01:03:22
Speaker 1: I don't know.
01:03:23
Speaker 2: She just said, you're going to write my book and everything's going to be great. And then I have no boundaries and I can't say no to people. So I just said, oh my god, of course yes. And then I hated her for saying yes, for me saying yes, and I blocked her first person. I was blocked.
01:03:39
Speaker 1: Tell the pitch it to your therapist.
01:03:42
Speaker 2: I'll tell her today. Maybe she'll write it and you sell it as a show. I can't believe she would do that. I'm so mad. I'm going to need to talk about in therapy. I'm going to talk about how she betrayed me. Oh.
01:03:53
Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to need a new therapist. All right. I love you. I love when You're going to Europe in two weeks because Nikki is starting school. Okay, yeah, so I'm gonna take him. By the way, when can we.
01:04:08
Speaker 2: Go to pilates or before? Please? I will meet you. I'm there all the time. I work at that Starbucks.
01:04:15
Speaker 1: I will tell you the days that I go, and we could go and if especially if you want to go, like on a weekend and then we hang out because you know what I've always wanted to do. Like afterwards, I see some of the pilates girlies go to like the deli there and.
01:04:29
Speaker 2: See the deli where regulars at the Delhi.
01:04:32
Speaker 1: I've never been today tonight for dinner. You go to the Delhi for dinner all the time. Yes, we go to the daily for dinner. Yes, they ate us there now, We've been going for a million years. I love it so much.
01:04:44
Speaker 2: And Phoebe gets moonsible soup.
01:04:45
Speaker 1: Well, certainly we go to sushi plays sometimes.
01:04:51
Speaker 2: I've been there once. It's delicious. But my son we stopped going to the Delhi for a while because my son would order for himself and he would order penny loading in butter so that the last piece is three quarters swimming in butter, and so that the last piece is three quarters covered. And I was like, we can't go there anymore. But now the steak.
01:05:14
Speaker 1: Do you know that there's an Italian place up there, Secreto or something.
01:05:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's this something, yes, but I like Faberccini better. What's that it's an Italian place?
01:05:24
Speaker 1: Also, there's two Italian places in that center.
01:05:28
Speaker 2: Yes, and the market there has a very lovely bathroom.
01:05:33
Speaker 1: These are all good tips. Yeah, I need to like explore a little bit around that. It's such a tiny center, but like, I don't know, I feel weird walking around by myself.
01:05:43
Speaker 2: I used during the pandemic, I would go up there and sit in my car and work just to feel like and I would see people like going in out of Starbucks and stuff. So at least there was that like in like full hazmat suits. But I felt like somewhat like it's like my safe place up there.
01:05:59
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna go to Pilate's Thank you, My love, tell everyone how to find you, how to find your book.
01:06:05
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01:06:27
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