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Thursday and you know what that means it's AEW live
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review on YouTube with Alt Jake and George good evening
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everybody how is it going you are listening to Alt
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Jake takes on another live dynamite review here with my
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buddy George as always how you doing this evening my friend.
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I see you're still in your late-night greeting mode.
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Yeah, I like it better.
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I like it better. All right.
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I'm down.
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Right? You know, we got to adapt and change as
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we grow, right? Sure.
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I'm okay with that.
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Right? Yeah.
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I thought so. I thought about it yesterday. I'm like, yeah,
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I think I'm going to do that this time.
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Why not?
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If people don't like it, I can always go back.
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Works for me.
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Nice. Nice. Nice.
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How are you doing tonight, my friend?
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Moving along. Moving along. Everything's moving along. Just boring during
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the day sometimes. But other than that, everything's going well.
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I'm progressing nicely on my rehab. Everything's going well.
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Nice. That's what matters. The physical therapy is going well.
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The recovery is on its way. That's what people want
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to hear. That's for sure. I know the audience is
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really– we want to make sure that George is doing
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well and mobile and good. No, that's good. That is good.
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That is good.
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I know you don't give a shit, but the Yankees
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knocked out the Red Sox yesterday.
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Oh, yeah. No, I saw. I don't give a shit.
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I know. I didn't even care.
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It's funny. I was going through my time hop yesterday,
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and one of the things that popped up was, I forget,
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it was like a few years ago, and it was like,
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I forget the player. It might have been Aaron Judge
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or somebody else was like, They have struck out 167
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times so far this baseball season. Tony Gwynn struck out
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167 times in the nineties.
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I'm like, there's why I don't like baseball as much anymore.
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And it's just all strikeouts at home runs.
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What you would like then is this year, Chicago White
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Sox are actually in this thing, right? They are playing
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the single, single bunt, single bunt.
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Type of game. So yeah, no, like was it, was
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it the Royals a few years ago, probably 10 years
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ago now when they won the world series or we're
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in the world series. Yeah. That's what I, it's not
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that I also be completely small ball, but I just
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like the management of it.
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I honestly miss the national league having the no DH.
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Like I liked it separated the leagues and you had
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to like do double switches and stuff, but yeah, no
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is what it is. It's I mean, I'll watch baseball
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here and there if it's on or if like, you know,
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if it's at Fenway park, but I just don't.
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I'll watch the playoffs.
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That's like, yeah.
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I mean, now that's it.
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I'm also at that weird age where like now I'm,
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I obviously I've been older than players for quite a
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long time, but now I'm like older than most of
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the coaches and men. So I'm like, God damn it.
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I don't even take it into account. I just love
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sports in general. So I'm all over it. Nope.
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I guess, like I said, the pandemic, the pandemic kind
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of drew a line in the sand. There was people
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that were like, Desperate for sports and needed it and
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missed it. And then there was others like me who
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were like, I thought I'd miss it more. I really did.
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But it's fine. I guess that I'm happy for people
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that really do love it. Like, I still like it.
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I enjoyed the World Cup. I watch Tottenham still. I
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love them, but really I love the Arizona group that
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I watch this team with, which is good because we're
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terrible this year, like the last three years, but that's
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life is what it is. I hope we got a
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quick super chat here that I won't throw up.
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You and Q me up for $ 1.
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99. Thank you so much, and this is a great reminder.
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Hope everybody's doing well. Just remember to please hit the
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like button on your way in or your way out.
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Just please hit the like button, subscribe. If you can
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share it to your socials or to some friends. all
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of that kind of stuff helps the helps the algorithm. Yeah.
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Our pop book show did very well.
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Yeah, no, it did.
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All of those did pretty well. I, I, I, you
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said it at the end of on Tuesday night of
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where we have more like West coast and late night
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viewers than we thought. Yeah. Which is good. No, that's nice.
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Which honestly, like I'm, I'm not opposed to being, being
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on the West coast. I'm not opposed. Oh yeah.
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Kevin with this one here. I forgot about that. The
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white socks, the, the, the Pope is pretty cool to see.
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It was funny.
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Yeah.
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No, I forgot about that part.
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Like, no wonder they turned it around for being the
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worst team in baseball.
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They didn't get busted at the beginning of the year.
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They got blessed during the playoffs. So is it.
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Gotcha. Gotcha.
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It was interesting. It's interesting. The Pope is from Chicago. Yeah.
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No, there was there's video I've seen from that was
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a 2005 World Series when they won where there's like
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a shot of the fans.
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And if you pause it, you can see that it's him.
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I'm like, that's pretty cool.
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Yeah. That's pretty cool.
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Also, a bunch of the fans now have the Pope headgear.
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I saw a picture of that on Twitter yesterday. I'm like,
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that's good stuff.
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You got to own it. I mean, this isn't going
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to happen again anytime soon.
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So you got to run with it.
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I didn't even know they were in there. And I
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was like, because Monday Night Football came up and they're like, yeah,
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the Bears are playing. The Cubs are in the playoffs
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and so are the White Sox. I'm like, what? They
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were the worst team in the league last year by far.
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Right. Like, didn't they win like less than 60 games
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or just about 60 games?
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I don't even know if they made that.
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Yeah.
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And I saw, I forget what it was. I don't
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know if it was, I think it was on TV.
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I was watching SportsCenter ESPN or something on it. And
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I saw like a quick video of them celebrating in
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the locker room. And I was like, oh, good for them.
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Part of me was like, did you celebrate getting 500? No,
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it's a great.
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Yeah, it really is.
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And that's the cool part about sports where you can
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have those type of things and where a team wins
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a title or a trophy for the first time in
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X amount of years and the whole fans can celebrate.
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It's also neat because all these teams like White Sox
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and a bunch of others, they're at the lower end
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of the pay scale.
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They're the least spending teams. There are, I think, Chicago...
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and the luxury tax yeah they don't even come close
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to that yeah.
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Unlike the dodgers you pay it for everybody.
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Yeah i know lately it's been more the dodgers that
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have been really spending big with otani and stuff which
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i mean hey you got to do it i mean
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that's when you get if you've got if you've got
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the big enough um yeah market to do it where
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you're getting, where you're selling out your stadium in that
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city where you can sell with tickets will be, you know,
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twice as much as other places go for it.
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I mean, that's Yankees have made their fair share of
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dumb contract moves and they're still paying for it. I
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think it's Sean Carlos on this team, $ 300 million. He
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does nothing. Right.
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I was going to say, and he's, I mean, and
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you thought that you'd think that would have ended, you know, when, uh,
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George Steinbrenner passed away, but I guess, I don't know.
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His kid, one of his kids runs the team, doesn't it? Um, Yeah,
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I mean, hey, I get it.
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I get it.
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You got to do what you can.
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And with that kind of market, too, being in New York,
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those big name splashy signings are good for the back
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pages and just to try to draw up some sort
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of attention in New York, you know, especially, you know,
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when the Jets exist. Oh, man. Oh, man. I see
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people asking.
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I haven't actually watched Worlds Collide yet, guys.
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It wasn't important.
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Yeah, and I started it, and then I had some tough...
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Like I said on Tuesday, I just recently got hired
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for a full-time salaried... corporate actual position like a real
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i'm a real job pinocchio so i've been filling out
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paperwork and doing my i9 stuff taking shot taking pictures
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of my uh passport and stuff letting them know i'm
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a real human um so i i was doing most
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of that today and i do want to watch it
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though i've because i've But I also kept up with
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the highlights on Saturday night where I saw like, you know,
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Obafemi and Punk doing what I said he was going
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to do coming out.
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With the straight edge society mask.
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I didn't realize he's going to come out to kill
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switch and gauge, which was smart, but I knew that
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when they booked him into that match, I'm like, well,
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of course he's going to wear the straight edge society mask.
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Like that's it's in Chicago. He's got it at home.
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It's right there. Too easy, too easy, too easy.
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I kept up on all the stats. When we get there,
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I got everything that, how it was going on YouTube
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at the time.
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Oh, nice. Nice. I mean, hey, and like I said, too,
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I feel like that show was less for fans and
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people to see it. Like, yes, we can see it,
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but it's, again, similar to what they did with the
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mask versus mask thing where this is trying to get.
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Here's our product. Here's what we can do. Here's how
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we can get bigger.
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Please give us a TV deal, which I would be
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surprised if they don't walk one down by the end
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of the year for AAA somewhere. I mean, there's got
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to be... I still feel like Amazon is that answer.
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I just, they might be content to stick them around YouTube.
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They might, they might. I mean, they make, I was
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on a black the other night I was on, um,
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I told you I was like, last I was on
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a YouTube tracking site and I had pulled up WWE there.
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the only channel with like an a plus rating and
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then the estimated money that they're getting like in the
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last 30 days was like 2.1 million dollars so that's
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just wwe not triple a so right and and it
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ranks and it's it's estimate is low because i put
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our channel in there and it's like oh you've made
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like 32 i'm like no we made like 300 but
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it's funny that way um but okay good for them
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like they're i think they're still like wwe's like ranked
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ninth or tenth in all of youtube for subscribers they
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got 170 million or something like that so yeah we're
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close yeah we're working goals goals Again, that's why every share,
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every like, every subscription, it all helps. Like we've said before,
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everything that we do, everything that we gain is all
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just because of us.
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We don't spin off from other people's of it.
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We're not getting bot farms or anything like some people.
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You'll go through and you'll get the YouTube bot purge
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because sometimes bots do pop in.
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Yeah.
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And you'll get the purge and we'll, we'll drop like
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five or six people.
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Yeah. Although the most recent one, I, because I was
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looking at those stats, that one that happened like right
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before we had Lorenzo on, that was a system error
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or something. Cause everybody, whatever they lost on that day,
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got it all back on the next day. And we
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actually gained some back with it. So yeah, no, I'm
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I feel like that's the thing too, is we, if
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we do have bots or fake accounts or whatever here
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and there, It's only, we'll only ever lose like one
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or two, you know, steadily we grow, steadily we grow.
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And still only been at this for what, like 19,
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20 months. And we've got over 700 subscribers. It's moving. Yeah, no, exactly.
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Like even so, even for this show, we used to have,
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you know, eight or nine people watching and there's over
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That's kind of that's our world right now.
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That's our currency.
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Especially now that Jake got a good paying job again.
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I don't have to make an hourly wage where they
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make you work under 40 hours a week so they
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don't have to give you benefits. Oh, it's a contract rule. Yeah,
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it'll totally be three to six months. And after six weeks, ooh, sorry,
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the terrorist got us. All right, fine. I get to
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be a real boy again.
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I can't wait to see you after the first couple
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days of work.
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It'll be fine. I've done it before. I, I, yeah,
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it'll be good. I'm excited.
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Hey, I don't have to drive on the highway.
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Oh God. Yeah. Especially with you having to get up
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that early. Um, yeah, no, because I'll be salary. I
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can kind of work my hours like on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
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I'll go in early so I can get home and
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be ready to do shows, but. I can kind of
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mess around with the other days. Also, half my role
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will be doing out and about. I'm a recruiter, so
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I'll be doing career fairs and visiting college campuses and stuff,
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which helps that I'm loud and extrovert and can bring
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people over like a carnival barker. That's kind of how
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I roll. But yeah, no, we will definitely get into
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the Dynamite tribute to pack. I mean, it was.
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Can we stop for a second?
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Please, by all means.
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If you don't mind, can we do a little follow-up
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from yesterday's show with this and awful, please?
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Sure, yes.
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I had some thoughts. I know you had some thoughts.
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We were both in the chat last night. If you
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haven't listened to this show, please go back and listen
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because then it's going to make more sense. I kind
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of wanted to take a shot at this using my
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point of view a little bit better because as you
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all know, George was addicted to pain medication for quite
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some time.
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Right.
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So I kind of wanted to come at this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So I wanted to come at this from a
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little different point of view, given the verbiage that was
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used by the people that came to the scene and everything,
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the slumping, the slumper, all that stuff. It just, from
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my point of view, and again, this is me talking.
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This is not Jake. This is just George. If you
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happen to agree, great. If you don't, It doesn't matter.
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This is from my point of view. When you start
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taking pain medication, there's one of two reactions people get.
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One is the person that gets woozy and may throw
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up and get sick and that person. The other side
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of it is the people like me that take one
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and they can run through a brick wall. Right. And
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there's no pain. And then they realized the one doesn't
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do it and you have to take two. That, yeah.
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Et cetera, et cetera.
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Like the Kurt Angle where he was taking like 40
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a day or whatever.
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Exactly, exactly. So this kind of was leading me down
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the way when it was warded and it was slumper
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and slumping over. That's what got me because in the
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time that I was addicted to all this, that never
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once happened to me. And with my friends and stuff,
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the only way I've ever seen it happen is if
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someone took too many. And that would be a lot.
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Like you're taking four or five at a time.
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Yeah.
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Oh, by the way, if you do have this problem
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and you don't have anybody to talk to, text or
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call 988, please. yeah or or.
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Like if you and if you're not comfortable with that
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shoot me an email like i will i.
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Would love to help people one of us dm one
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of us will both give you our phone number you
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can talk.
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To us individually it's something that you don't like i
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mean it that's it's one of those things where people
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think that they're so alone and that's in their own
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world and I know it's cliche, but reaching out is,
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it makes all the difference with it.
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That's your first step. So I know you, I know
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you were in the chat and you had some good
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ideas and I had, well, I just kept the quiet
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uncertainty because there's a way.
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To view it.
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And I immediately went to the Tom Petty situation. And
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if you remember what happened to Tom, he was on
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his pain medication and had run out, I believe. And
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then I think he got, he had to go out
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and get some from somewhere else.
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Right.
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And that pill that he got. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
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There's the, there's a, there's a D R U G
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that starts with the letter F and we'll just say.
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That everybody knows what it is. It's an epidemic in
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this country.
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And that's, that's also, I believe kind of what we
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think happened to Hogan too, was that, you get your
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prescription and those are, we'll say, we'll call them clean,
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you know, not with the, cause it's what it's supposed
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to be. Right. But when you go to the street,
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especially now, like, and especially with how, like, cause before,
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you know, back in the day, like when I was
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in the music industry, you could get, like people would
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have a prescription and then they would sell it. People
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don't get those anymore. Like I, when I got my
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teeth pulled, when I got my wisdom tooth out in March,
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they gave me 10, that are a 5%, like 5 milligrams.
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It wasn't anything. And I had to sign a waiver
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and I had to pay for Narcan with it and
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stuff because of the epidemic in this country, which is
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good to be protected against it.
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Yeah, but it's also bad because you can't get refills.
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Exactly. And there's no way to just get the clean
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ones anymore. Pretty much now, if you're buying it off
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the street, there's going to be a percentage, whether that's
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5% up to a hundred percent of the pill is
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going to be the F word. And that's, and that's
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where the slumping comes from. I've only seen it. I
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saw it once or twice. I live, there's a gas
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station near me. There's two gas station near me, near me.
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One of them's nice. And one of them's not.
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And at the not one, I've seen people like outside
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the store that would be, you know, panhandling or whatever
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you want to call it. And they're got that, call
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it the effie lean like you know i don't want
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to get in trouble with the words but everybody knows
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what it is and that was my first thought when
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it happened there and that could be one of those
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things where yeah maybe he took too many of them
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and we're just speculating we don't know anything i would
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doubt that right i just feel like yeah but if
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you but that's the thing with those type of pills
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one kid they say it all the time like one
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can take somebody depending so you can go like you
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can take.
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A half right and if it's the half you it's
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the wrong half you picked.
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And it's how your body connects with it or whatever.
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And everybody's different. It could also be one of those
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things where you could have been taking it for five years,
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you know, and then just the way your body reacts
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at a certain point or whatever it's mixed with.
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And that's where, and that's why, you know, I was.
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Saying too, like there's clearly no, if there's a wellness policy,
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it's like one of those, once you've been, when trouble,
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then you get tested, like, There should be a, every
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90 days you're going.
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To get tested at some point and you don't know when.
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Yeah, I think.
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And people should be watching, and there should be a,
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because that's what they do in like the NFL and
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Major League Baseball. There's somebody who watches you pee in
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a cup.
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That's why I wrote down, Shad has definitely already contacted Tony,
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and I'm sure they have updated, they're going to update
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their policy because.
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They have to.
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They have to, and if they don't, they will lose
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money in a lawsuit eventually.
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Yeah, and that's where I– And it won't be here.
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It won't be in this case because judging by that
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letter we heard on the program that was written by
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the family. Tony is already taking care of that so that.
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Ain't happening but depending on how the city of Chicago
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works there could be a criminal case against it where
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you're considering I don't think there will be but even
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so I said it in that chat yesterday too I'm
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like look if there's a way like even if they
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don't even if it's not like a cost and legal
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thing like if it comes back to where it was
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completely preventable or even worse that he was enabled to, to,
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to keep doing. Cause I've also seen a couple of
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different people that I know are involved in the business
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on some level. So they have some connections that were
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saying that like he was in massive pain going into
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Saturday and took a lot to keep it, to make
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sure he could do the match that he wanted to do.
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Cause they got to go all crazy with it or whatever.
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And if it's like, and, and they're saying that I,
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that person said that Tony knew that, if that's the
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case and that comes out to be a real thing,
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I mean, even if they don't lose, even if they're
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not like getting sued or on a criminal case for it, the,
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the real journalists will come out for it. You know,
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it's not going to be people that are going to
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butter him up with a 32nd to 62nd, like, Oh,
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it was the greatest show ever, Tony. I'm so glad
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you brought this wrestling to us. And then ask him
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a softball question. These are going to be people from like,
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you know, real TV channels, newspapers, magazines, whatever, they're gonna
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say they're gonna be asking questions and honestly they could
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that'll go up to shad because i mean yes tony
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is the quote-unquote runner and operator of the business but
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on paper like shad's really the one he's the bank
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roller so it's yeah that's and that's.
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Why tony jumped on that getting to the family quick.
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Yeah oh for sure for sure but it's just I
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don't know, man. When that toxicology report comes out, it's
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going to be great.
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Like I said, let me believe it's, again, this is
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me talking, nobody else. Let me believe that it's a
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mixture because based on everything that I've done and been
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involved with and seen, I've never once have seen anyone,
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including myself, and I was up to 15 to 20
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a day, I would never do that.
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Right, right. But if you had the regular clean pills,
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that's probably weird.
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Yeah, because this is a different time period.
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Right, yeah.
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And to be frank, my doctor now, I've already gotten
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two refills. My doctor now is great.
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Yeah.
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It's fine, because I do, when I go to physical therapy,
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I take just one of them when I go to bed,
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and that's it.
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Right.
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Because I'm definitely afraid of hopping back into that again.
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Right. And that's the other thing too, is because you
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know that and where it has been. And also too,
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you just had surgery. So it's a real pain thing
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as we're before back in, back when 10 years ago,
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when you're having issues, he sprayed an ankle, they give
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you a bottle of 50 of them. They didn't care back.
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No, no. And I had like, I had three scripts
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at once. Cause he'd loaded up on three. He would
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see me every six months is give me three months
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ahead of time.
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Right.
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Right. And even come close to that shit. Right.
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Well, and even back then too, you know, you could,
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you could probably, you know, get to a couple of
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different doctors. Cause there wasn't, they didn't care as much.
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It was, I mean, now if you get them, like
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when I got the ones for my teeth, like the
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bottle was the same, but like the cap was red
490
00:23:12.190 --> 00:23:16.150
and it's like caution opiates. And it's like, it's a different,
491
00:23:16.410 --> 00:23:19.769
it's a different world now with it. And if that's
492
00:23:19.829 --> 00:23:24.160
the reason why that's, you know, that's the reason why
493
00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:26.220
that's why you have to have this epidemic and how
494
00:23:26.259 --> 00:23:29.099
we have to try to, curb it and help people.
495
00:23:29.190 --> 00:23:32.420
But unfortunately, if you go to the streets, none of that,
496
00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:34.220
there's no restrictions, no regulation.
497
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:36.039
Yeah. It's not like the good old days. Like you said,
498
00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:38.519
you can't go down to your local do down the
499
00:23:38.579 --> 00:23:40.799
road and expect to get clean. Right.
500
00:23:40.940 --> 00:23:41.279
Exactly.
501
00:23:41.339 --> 00:23:42.119
It doesn't work that way anymore.
502
00:23:42.140 --> 00:23:43.240
It's just a crap shoot.
503
00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:45.000
It's a crap shoot. You don't want to take, man.
504
00:23:45.059 --> 00:23:47.980
Right. And you know, God forbid, if he got them,
505
00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:50.380
you know, like in Chicago, that's going to be a
506
00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:53.200
big city with a lot more things coming in, like,
507
00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:56.160
you know, coming off the lake or whatever with it. It's,
508
00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:57.339
It's bad news.
509
00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:00.069
I'm just, I'm fairly certain. I'm sorry to interrupt you.
510
00:24:00.109 --> 00:24:00.849
Go ahead.
511
00:24:00.910 --> 00:24:02.750
I'm sorry. I was not, I was, I was tailed off.
512
00:24:03.670 --> 00:24:07.470
I'm fairly certain based on everything that I've read and
513
00:24:08.009 --> 00:24:10.380
it's not, it wasn't food poisoning. I took that out
514
00:24:10.410 --> 00:24:12.160
because one of the articles I read, it was from
515
00:24:12.180 --> 00:24:16.400
the Chicago Tribune or WABC in Chicago, where they said
516
00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:18.960
he never went into the restaurant. So that was, that
517
00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:21.809
was rolled out for me there. But I do know
518
00:24:21.829 --> 00:24:25.920
everything's still under investigation. i did read that so they
519
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:29.680
are investigating this so that leads me to believe that
520
00:24:29.700 --> 00:24:33.750
there's something going on and i gotta think just again
521
00:24:33.789 --> 00:24:37.509
based on my knowledge being a druggie for 10 years
522
00:24:38.130 --> 00:24:40.029
that's it's a mixture of something.
523
00:24:40.190 --> 00:24:43.849
Right that was my first thought yeah no and like i.
524
00:24:43.779 --> 00:24:46.609
Said tom petty came to mind immediately Right. No.
525
00:24:46.630 --> 00:24:47.190
And that's that.
526
00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:47.430
Yeah.
527
00:24:47.549 --> 00:24:49.990
No, that's exactly. And that kind of stuff.
528
00:24:50.190 --> 00:24:53.200
I mean, you hear about it all the time. You know,
529
00:24:53.299 --> 00:24:55.519
it's one of the I mean, honestly, for me living
530
00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.799
in Arizona near the southern border, like their stories here
531
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:01.359
all the time.
532
00:25:01.220 --> 00:25:03.390
About it, because it's just one of those things that.
533
00:25:03.930 --> 00:25:05.890
Unfortunately happens i mean you hear about it with a
534
00:25:05.930 --> 00:25:07.690
lot of times it's like high school kids or whatever
535
00:25:07.710 --> 00:25:10.109
they're like trying to mess around and like you said
536
00:25:10.130 --> 00:25:12.990
they take one or half of one that's the wrong
537
00:25:13.029 --> 00:25:16.210
thing and yeah that's why that toxicology report's going to
538
00:25:16.250 --> 00:25:17.710
be so.
539
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:20.000
That's the part that's the part that still interests me
540
00:25:20.019 --> 00:25:23.940
because we never have ever got the toxicology report back
541
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:24.740
from hogan.
542
00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:29.299
Right well and that i believe the i mean i
543
00:25:29.900 --> 00:25:31.079
isn't that's.
544
00:25:30.859 --> 00:25:32.869
Still a mess The mess. Right.
545
00:25:33.190 --> 00:25:35.349
Because there's legal things. And the state of Florida is
546
00:25:35.569 --> 00:25:37.329
a little bit weird with a lot of that stuff too,
547
00:25:37.390 --> 00:25:38.970
I feel like, because of all the old people that
548
00:25:39.009 --> 00:25:40.059
live down there and stuff with it.
549
00:25:40.089 --> 00:25:41.130
But I don't know.
550
00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:44.210
I just feel like that's– I hate to say it,
551
00:25:44.230 --> 00:25:47.869
but it's like if they can afford to and suppress it,
552
00:25:47.890 --> 00:25:49.690
like they might try to pay to suppress it. I
553
00:25:49.710 --> 00:25:52.029
don't know. I don't know.
554
00:25:52.170 --> 00:25:54.390
I don't know about that. I think in this case,
555
00:25:54.470 --> 00:25:56.650
we'll get everything just because of Chicago.
556
00:25:57.490 --> 00:26:00.650
Right. Yeah. That's kind of what I think too. It's
557
00:26:00.670 --> 00:26:03.950
just– Yeah, the whole thing is just it's it's a
558
00:26:04.009 --> 00:26:05.789
terrible situation. But I mean.
559
00:26:05.809 --> 00:26:10.579
It doesn't it seems like that's what it is with it.
560
00:26:10.650 --> 00:26:14.869
I mean, obviously, there's also the speculation of that he's
561
00:26:14.930 --> 00:26:18.650
on the Brian Cage diet and we're not slandering Brian Cage.
562
00:26:18.690 --> 00:26:23.059
Brian Cage admitted to using PEDs like days before this
563
00:26:23.099 --> 00:26:26.049
happened and. I mean, if you just looked at him,
564
00:26:26.109 --> 00:26:28.650
he looks, I mean, yes, you can work out to
565
00:26:28.710 --> 00:26:30.630
get there with it. But even like we were talking
566
00:26:30.670 --> 00:26:33.410
about punk where he looks bigger and cut and defined,
567
00:26:33.779 --> 00:26:38.099
he's not rocking an eight pack and 2% body fat.
568
00:26:38.539 --> 00:26:43.140
You can get a prescription for PDDs. That's the thing.
569
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.599
I know when you, when you're in chat, when you,
570
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.900
and you're right to a point in the chat, when
571
00:26:48.940 --> 00:26:52.359
you said yesterday, you said random drug testing is the answer.
572
00:26:53.109 --> 00:26:54.509
That's not the answer. No, no.
573
00:26:54.910 --> 00:26:56.829
I put the answer in myself. I'm sorry. You said
574
00:26:56.869 --> 00:27:01.369
random drug testing is a good idea or something.
575
00:27:01.490 --> 00:27:01.869
It is.
576
00:27:01.930 --> 00:27:04.970
I agree with that to a point. And that's because
577
00:27:05.809 --> 00:27:10.319
nine times out of ten, you know ahead of time
578
00:27:10.339 --> 00:27:14.079
when the drug test will be. It leaks out. Right.
579
00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:16.240
Like even in places I've worked at, we've been told,
580
00:27:16.299 --> 00:27:17.299
you know, next week they're coming.
581
00:27:17.740 --> 00:27:18.599
Right, right, right. Okay.
582
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:21.980
Not as obvious as like when Triple H told Ric
583
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:24.750
Flair for his son that they're doing it tomorrow, have
584
00:27:24.769 --> 00:27:28.309
him clean. Not that obvious, but obvious nonetheless. Right. You
585
00:27:28.329 --> 00:27:32.029
know when it's coming. And then I've been through this too.
586
00:27:33.130 --> 00:27:36.839
When I went back to work, I told my HR
587
00:27:36.859 --> 00:27:40.119
department I'm prescribed pain medication.
588
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:40.700
Right.
589
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.480
So they know ahead of time. So I had a
590
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:47.039
piss test when I was there and I, test positive
591
00:27:47.059 --> 00:27:49.059
for opioids, but I'm not going to get fired because
592
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:49.700
I have a prescription.
593
00:27:50.019 --> 00:27:50.220
Right.
594
00:27:50.539 --> 00:27:51.000
Yeah. No.
595
00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:53.440
And that's, and that's how they can, they can check
596
00:27:53.500 --> 00:27:56.000
and confirm that the systems and the paperwork and everything
597
00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:56.420
with it.
598
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.170
Yeah. That's your, that's your way around that.
599
00:27:58.910 --> 00:28:03.369
Right. Well, if you're, but the thing is they can
600
00:28:03.410 --> 00:28:04.950
test for the specific one.
601
00:28:05.029 --> 00:28:06.069
And if you're coming up with.
602
00:28:06.150 --> 00:28:08.890
Yeah. And most people test like our, our work now
603
00:28:08.950 --> 00:28:12.160
tests for opioids, coke and nature.
604
00:28:12.769 --> 00:28:16.190
Right. But, but I know, but like, you can do like,
605
00:28:16.329 --> 00:28:18.599
there's different levels of tests where you could do like
606
00:28:18.619 --> 00:28:20.940
a five drug or 10 or whatever. And you can,
607
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.519
you can test for the specific one. That's the problem,
608
00:28:25.019 --> 00:28:27.940
you know? And that's what, you know, that's the, you know, the,
609
00:28:28.180 --> 00:28:29.680
the drug that starts with the letter F I'm still
610
00:28:29.700 --> 00:28:31.099
not trying to get us in trouble here with it,
611
00:28:31.339 --> 00:28:34.319
but that's, you can test for specific ones where it's like,
612
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:36.940
you know, cause you can take for like Benzos and every,
613
00:28:36.980 --> 00:28:40.829
every other different kind of one. And that's where, If
614
00:28:40.849 --> 00:28:43.970
you're doing random testing, and that specific one that starts
615
00:28:43.990 --> 00:28:47.589
with the letter F stays in your system way longer
616
00:28:47.809 --> 00:28:48.329
than others.
617
00:28:48.470 --> 00:28:50.009
It doesn't break down as quick.
618
00:28:50.349 --> 00:28:52.119
Yeah, so it's one of those things where even if
619
00:28:52.150 --> 00:28:54.720
you did know, like, hey, they're coming on Wednesday, and
620
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:58.339
it's Thursday or Friday, you might be able to get clean.
621
00:28:58.380 --> 00:29:02.519
But also, if you're addicted, you're going to go through
622
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:03.880
withdrawals during that time.
623
00:29:03.980 --> 00:29:05.599
Yeah, but you sacrifice that.
624
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:10.230
I've done this. Yeah, but I'm not sure– Can you though?
625
00:29:10.250 --> 00:29:12.349
Especially if you're working in the indies or whatever. I mean,
626
00:29:12.369 --> 00:29:13.279
it's just one of those things.
627
00:29:14.660 --> 00:29:15.099
Yeah.
628
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.259
I don't know. I just, the thing is, is all,
629
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.220
what I was saying about the random testing is my
630
00:29:20.259 --> 00:29:22.799
point was clearly they're not doing that. You know what
631
00:29:22.819 --> 00:29:24.539
I mean? Like that's yeah. Yeah.
632
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:26.180
And that's where changes are coming.
633
00:29:26.589 --> 00:29:29.250
Oh, they have to. And even, and shout out to
634
00:29:29.289 --> 00:29:32.019
dis and awful from yesterday as well, where they were saying, Like,
635
00:29:32.500 --> 00:29:34.000
and that's the thing too, is everybody, when you're talking
636
00:29:34.019 --> 00:29:34.619
about this, everyone's like.
637
00:29:34.660 --> 00:29:37.109
I'll be like, wow, you know, what about WWE and.
638
00:29:37.049 --> 00:29:40.259
Blah, blah, blah. They're no better. They just gotten. a
639
00:29:40.299 --> 00:29:42.619
place kind of like major league baseball where you got
640
00:29:42.660 --> 00:29:45.400
in trouble and like things were happening and you were
641
00:29:45.460 --> 00:29:47.500
forced to make changes to your policy.
642
00:29:47.579 --> 00:29:50.619
Yeah. Cause there's people, I'm sure there's people on WWE's
643
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:52.089
roster to take pain medication.
644
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:52.640
Sure.
645
00:29:52.910 --> 00:29:54.390
Sure. Yeah.
646
00:29:55.009 --> 00:29:55.710
Yeah, exactly.
647
00:29:55.829 --> 00:29:57.950
And it's just, it's one of those things where.
648
00:29:58.630 --> 00:30:02.559
You know, you've got to, Have a full on wellness
649
00:30:02.619 --> 00:30:06.660
policy around it where– a fully comprehensive wellness policy. That's
650
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:08.759
the phrase I was looking for. Where you've got to
651
00:30:08.819 --> 00:30:12.130
be able to– like if somebody is in trouble, then
652
00:30:12.170 --> 00:30:14.049
you have a system where they can go through the
653
00:30:14.089 --> 00:30:16.269
rehab and go through a detox and blah, blah, blah.
654
00:30:16.289 --> 00:30:18.559
Unless you get somebody like Moxley that actually admits to it.
655
00:30:18.910 --> 00:30:19.730
Right, right.
656
00:30:19.819 --> 00:30:20.819
Which is good for him.
657
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.880
Yeah. No, and we said that back when that happened,
658
00:30:23.900 --> 00:30:26.339
when initially it was a smarter– Like, you know, at
659
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:28.000
least he was able to take control of it. Now,
660
00:30:28.259 --> 00:30:33.500
from what I understand, it was because Renee was like, hey, exactly.
661
00:30:33.579 --> 00:30:35.240
Sometimes you got to get a full on kick in
662
00:30:35.259 --> 00:30:38.099
the ass to really make it known. And I know
663
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:42.589
the WWE policy actually also extends to like anybody who
664
00:30:42.769 --> 00:30:44.869
ever worked for them. I know you don't watch Dark
665
00:30:44.890 --> 00:30:47.289
Side of the Ring, but the Zach Gowen episode after
666
00:30:47.329 --> 00:30:50.710
he got released. He went through a major drug issue
667
00:30:51.210 --> 00:30:52.690
and you know, it was at the point where he
668
00:30:52.750 --> 00:30:57.509
couldn't get clean and his mom called WWE and they
669
00:30:57.549 --> 00:30:59.470
got him into the rehab and he's been clean ever
670
00:30:59.539 --> 00:31:01.819
since and all that kind of stuff. But it's just
671
00:31:01.900 --> 00:31:05.599
one of those things where I, and I know Tony
672
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:06.859
and I've heard people say that they.
673
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.819
Do have some sort of policy. I don't believe that.
674
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.339
Like, I really don't like, cause we've seen, I mean,
675
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.970
I hate to say it too, but like, that's why
676
00:31:17.029 --> 00:31:20.710
Andrade left WWE because he had the, you know, for,
677
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:23.259
I think it was PEDs and then just went right
678
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:24.079
to AEW.
679
00:31:24.140 --> 00:31:25.759
It's like, I, I guess he could have.
680
00:31:25.700 --> 00:31:28.759
Gotten clean during that 90 days off, but.
681
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.440
It's also possible. They don't care about PEDs.
682
00:31:32.460 --> 00:31:32.700
Right.
683
00:31:32.900 --> 00:31:34.579
Yeah, exactly. Which is terrible.
684
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.079
Cause that's the thing too, is PEDs will lead to
685
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:42.009
the painkillers because I mean the PEDs, like, yes, it
686
00:31:42.029 --> 00:31:43.329
can help you heal a muscle.
687
00:31:43.349 --> 00:31:45.089
It helps your muscle heals or whatever. But once you
688
00:31:45.109 --> 00:31:48.029
get too big, you start to have like those ligament issues,
689
00:31:48.089 --> 00:31:50.170
you know? I mean, that's why Mark McGuire retired when
690
00:31:50.190 --> 00:31:52.400
he did. Cause there's like, he couldn't keep, I think
691
00:31:52.420 --> 00:31:55.160
it was his elbow or your ligament snap because you
692
00:31:55.180 --> 00:31:57.140
got too much weight muscle on there.
693
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.920
And your heart, your heart can't, your heart can't.
694
00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:01.140
Yeah.
695
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:02.119
Your heart takes a beating.
696
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:02.960
Right.
697
00:32:02.980 --> 00:32:06.150
I mean, pain medication, my heart, you can tell your
698
00:32:06.210 --> 00:32:12.470
heartbeat gets more speedier, but the PEDs really pick it up.
699
00:32:12.710 --> 00:32:14.349
And that's the problem. Right.
700
00:32:14.650 --> 00:32:18.279
And that's the thing where, again, that toxicology point, if
701
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.019
it comes back, like, let's say it comes.
702
00:32:19.900 --> 00:32:25.119
Back with F and with PEDs. And I mean, who knows?
703
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.339
It could also have, there could have been other things
704
00:32:27.420 --> 00:32:29.000
mixed in, you know, it could have had a fun,
705
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.440
he could have had a fun night out in Chicago
706
00:32:31.869 --> 00:32:33.569
and then never went to sleep.
707
00:32:33.630 --> 00:32:34.430
You know what I mean?
708
00:32:34.509 --> 00:32:36.230
And then that also vestiges with your body.
709
00:32:36.250 --> 00:32:40.390
The timeframe is interesting because the timeframe is there. It's
710
00:32:40.430 --> 00:32:43.109
like four o'clock and at four he's pronounced passed away.
711
00:32:43.170 --> 00:32:43.349
Yeah.
712
00:32:43.809 --> 00:32:48.089
Yeah. So my again, my initial thought was he was
713
00:32:48.150 --> 00:32:50.210
driving and didn't feel well and just kind of yanked
714
00:32:50.230 --> 00:32:51.809
it over. And then that was it.
715
00:32:52.150 --> 00:32:53.779
So, yeah, I mean, it could have been.
716
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.019
And like I said, the thing is, with that being
717
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:59.039
like four o'clock to, you know, the show didn't end
718
00:32:59.099 --> 00:32:59.640
till what?
719
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.319
Like one, two in the morning.
720
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:03.779
He's going to the airport because the airport's close to
721
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:06.960
the restaurant. So, yeah, he's going for the flight out.
722
00:33:07.490 --> 00:33:07.710
Right.
723
00:33:07.730 --> 00:33:10.059
But if it's, I mean, but was it four in
724
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:11.259
the morning or four in the evening?
725
00:33:11.299 --> 00:33:12.539
Four in the afternoon. Yeah.
726
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.140
So, I mean like, so you, so you had the
727
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.880
night in Chicago easily could have gone to, you know,
728
00:33:17.980 --> 00:33:18.400
under the.
729
00:33:18.380 --> 00:33:21.009
Bridge and the South side or whatever and.
730
00:33:21.450 --> 00:33:23.750
Pick stuff up. Like there's a lot of different things.
731
00:33:23.829 --> 00:33:28.009
It could be, unfortunately, none of it is good for
732
00:33:28.069 --> 00:33:29.910
Tony and AEW.
733
00:33:29.950 --> 00:33:32.440
And that's, and that's the problem that I've got.
734
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:34.880
With a lot of this stuff. It's like, it just
735
00:33:34.900 --> 00:33:38.500
feels that this was completely preventable and that's going to
736
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:40.819
cause some sort of, and honestly, like, yeah, he might
737
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.299
be paying the family and they're saying the right things now,
738
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:49.299
but unless they've signed legal documentation, they could easily, you know,
739
00:33:49.380 --> 00:33:51.900
he could easily see a lawsuit with it. Also too,
740
00:33:52.869 --> 00:33:54.990
they're from the UK. So there could be a different
741
00:33:55.009 --> 00:33:56.950
way of going about it there that we don't know,
742
00:33:57.009 --> 00:33:59.730
but their magistrates and everything like this is, this is
743
00:33:59.750 --> 00:34:01.950
going to be an ongoing story for a while. And
744
00:34:01.990 --> 00:34:05.480
it's just the worst that it gets. And I'm not
745
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.639
trying to be mean here or be a tribalist. It's
746
00:34:08.699 --> 00:34:12.119
not this at all. How much is Shad going to
747
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:13.840
let Tony keep paying for this?
748
00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:15.590
This one will scoot by. This one's fine.
749
00:34:16.250 --> 00:34:16.710
Is it though?
750
00:34:16.730 --> 00:34:18.219
They're not going to get sued. They're not.
751
00:34:18.309 --> 00:34:21.130
I know. But if they get drugged through the papers
752
00:34:21.190 --> 00:34:22.610
and the court of public opinion.
753
00:34:22.750 --> 00:34:26.039
And they're going to say we updated our policy and blah, blah, blah,
754
00:34:26.059 --> 00:34:28.179
and this and that. They'll work their way out of it.
755
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.400
In this case. Yeah, I just.
756
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.579
Thought of Shadwell. I mean, Shad might be like, because
757
00:34:34.659 --> 00:34:38.960
if Shad starts getting questions from the NFL media or,
758
00:34:39.139 --> 00:34:41.909
God forbid, Roger Goodell, like, what's going on with your kid?
759
00:34:42.630 --> 00:34:45.550
I could just see him being, because it's hemorrhaging money.
760
00:34:45.690 --> 00:34:48.989
Like, I don't care what Dave says. They are hemorrhaging money.
761
00:34:49.010 --> 00:34:53.260
You know, and they've never made a dime in eight
762
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:54.960
years now, seven years, whatever.
763
00:34:54.980 --> 00:34:56.159
They don't care. They don't care.
764
00:34:56.909 --> 00:34:58.610
Tony doesn't care.
765
00:35:00.130 --> 00:35:02.570
If Shad cared, he would have done something by now.
766
00:35:03.329 --> 00:35:05.869
I think it's just kind of like he keeps Tony
767
00:35:05.909 --> 00:35:07.969
busy so he lets it go. But the problem is
768
00:35:08.030 --> 00:35:11.199
once you get bad press, then is it let it go?
769
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.579
That's where I think it gets a little bit different.
770
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:17.539
This all will go back.
771
00:35:18.139 --> 00:35:22.960
Unfortunately, it goes back to pack. That's what they'll say.
772
00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:26.230
We game a test. I don't know what they're going
773
00:35:26.250 --> 00:35:29.320
to say. They're going to end up– they're not going
774
00:35:29.340 --> 00:35:30.159
to say it's our fault.
775
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:33.599
They're not, but will the reporters?
776
00:35:33.659 --> 00:35:35.679
Will somebody from investigative journalism?
777
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.170
I don't know. You might be right, but I could.
778
00:35:38.090 --> 00:35:40.389
I mean if I'm at work and I'm addicted to
779
00:35:40.429 --> 00:35:42.289
pain medication, is it not the work's fault I ran
780
00:35:42.309 --> 00:35:44.590
into the frigging– took the forklift into the wall?
781
00:35:46.010 --> 00:35:48.849
No, but if they enabled it. Like that's the thing.
782
00:35:49.269 --> 00:35:53.179
Yeah, enabling. You can't– I can't give Tony that burden.
783
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.610
Yeah, I can't. I can't yet. But if it comes
784
00:35:56.710 --> 00:35:58.829
out through the, like I said, if somebody does investigative
785
00:35:58.869 --> 00:36:02.489
reporting and it comes to, there's text messages or whatever,
786
00:36:02.630 --> 00:36:03.989
I don't know. It's just, it's. Yeah.
787
00:36:04.010 --> 00:36:06.630
If it comes out where Peck is like, Hey, I
788
00:36:06.690 --> 00:36:08.590
need something. Can you go to the store for me, Tony?
789
00:36:08.610 --> 00:36:10.550
And he comes back and it's him. That's a different
790
00:36:10.570 --> 00:36:13.019
story altogether. That's totally different.
791
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:13.800
Yes. Right.
792
00:36:13.900 --> 00:36:17.079
But Tony just plays ignorant and doesn't know anything. Like
793
00:36:17.099 --> 00:36:18.519
he's always seems to do.
794
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.519
Yeah. But if somebody like saw it happen, like let's
795
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.349
say somebody saw him, chopping him up and snorting him
796
00:36:26.389 --> 00:36:28.869
or eating him in the locker room or in a
797
00:36:28.889 --> 00:36:31.190
bathroom or whatever, and somebody says it to Tony, and
798
00:36:31.210 --> 00:36:32.710
he's like, and he doesn't do it.
799
00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:34.730
If he's too afraid to do anything about it, then
800
00:36:34.809 --> 00:36:35.190
I don't know.
801
00:36:35.590 --> 00:36:38.130
Yeah, it's tough to prove.
802
00:36:38.570 --> 00:36:41.780
Unless there's text messages. Text messages are forever.
803
00:36:41.860 --> 00:36:47.159
Who is text messaging that, though? Even when I was majorly...
804
00:36:46.940 --> 00:36:49.199
I would never say something like that. It would always
805
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:49.739
be coded.
806
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.750
Yeah, but....
807
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.659
I mean, you see it happen a lot where people,
808
00:36:55.739 --> 00:36:56.690
I mean, like what was it?
809
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.840
The Chris Hansen stuff, there's text messages, you know, I'm
810
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:03.079
just saying there's, I'm everything's on the table until it's
811
00:37:03.219 --> 00:37:06.559
not at this point. And that's, and that's why it's
812
00:37:06.579 --> 00:37:10.389
hard to really have a deep dive conversation because it's speculation.
813
00:37:10.489 --> 00:37:13.590
It's just, you don't know what's going to happen.
814
00:37:13.710 --> 00:37:16.969
I don't know. It's just, and it, I find it.
815
00:37:16.989 --> 00:37:20.150
Hard to believe that it would have gone under, if
816
00:37:20.190 --> 00:37:22.780
it's as bad as it could have, if it's that bad,
817
00:37:22.820 --> 00:37:24.340
I feel like it's hard to believe that it was
818
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:26.840
completely off of Tony's radar.
819
00:37:26.900 --> 00:37:29.219
A person can hide it. Dude, I hid it for
820
00:37:29.219 --> 00:37:29.699
10 years.
821
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.320
Yeah, but when you're traveling, when you're in a locker
822
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.719
room with a bunch of people, I get it. It's easy, dude.
823
00:37:35.780 --> 00:37:39.550
It's easy. You'd be surprised. Drug addicts are drug addicts
824
00:37:39.590 --> 00:37:40.289
for a reason.
825
00:37:40.849 --> 00:37:41.110
Right.
826
00:37:41.530 --> 00:37:45.800
Because we're very self-centered. We're very self-centered. Just do whatever
827
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.260
I got to do at the time. Different now, of course.
828
00:37:48.860 --> 00:37:52.440
And you don't care. Nobody knew.
829
00:37:54.139 --> 00:37:54.500
Maybe.
830
00:37:54.900 --> 00:37:57.099
People working next to me didn't know. My wife didn't
831
00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:58.340
know until she did know.
832
00:37:58.780 --> 00:38:04.980
Right. It's one of those things where we got to
833
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.429
see where it comes out with it because they could have.
834
00:38:08.590 --> 00:38:11.489
Or again, that's where I was saying if they just
835
00:38:11.530 --> 00:38:14.349
had a random testing policy for folks, you just.
836
00:38:15.590 --> 00:38:17.590
Clearly there wasn't, and that's an.
837
00:38:17.989 --> 00:38:20.480
Issue where they should have– that's where I get kind
838
00:38:20.500 --> 00:38:24.260
of just– it's an athletic endeavor. There should be that, but.
839
00:38:24.539 --> 00:38:26.480
And he might have tested positive for opioids, and he
840
00:38:26.500 --> 00:38:28.769
would have shown a prescription. That's all, and that would
841
00:38:28.789 --> 00:38:29.469
have been done right there.
842
00:38:30.409 --> 00:38:33.750
It was fentanyl you know you're.
843
00:38:32.829 --> 00:38:34.829
Just saying yeah if.
844
00:38:34.789 --> 00:38:37.409
You're buying that off because because you're not getting a prescription.
845
00:38:37.050 --> 00:38:39.639
For that unless you've had like major surgery.
846
00:38:39.260 --> 00:38:41.440
And a major thing like doctors don't want to give
847
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:45.619
that unless like that's administered under a doctor's supervision and
848
00:38:45.699 --> 00:38:49.300
i know pack and also too like i know that's
849
00:38:49.340 --> 00:38:52.400
always said it's been visa issues because remember he disappears
850
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.360
from time to time like yes if that's something where he,
851
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.440
if it comes out where he'd gone into like a
852
00:38:57.820 --> 00:39:00.059
paid rehab or something and then came back and they
853
00:39:00.099 --> 00:39:02.739
weren't monitoring, I don't know. Like I just, there's a
854
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:06.719
lot of different things in play here. And the bottom
855
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.000
line is it wasn't that car accident that they thought
856
00:39:09.019 --> 00:39:12.820
it could be. And that's now I do think that
857
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.619
I don't know if it'll happen before this Tuesday, but
858
00:39:15.699 --> 00:39:18.599
I know once that news does come out, dis awful.
859
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:20.619
And I will have a hell of a conversation.
860
00:39:20.699 --> 00:39:20.900
Yeah.
861
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.969
I mean, Yeah, it's going to take a bit.
862
00:39:25.420 --> 00:39:26.019
Right, right.
863
00:39:26.059 --> 00:39:28.070
But sometimes they don't take too, too long.
864
00:39:28.090 --> 00:39:32.480
This one just took a while. You're probably right to
865
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.019
lay it out. It's yeah, no, it's going to be
866
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.960
a very interesting time. And, you know, all of this too,
867
00:39:38.980 --> 00:39:42.460
we're not saying this to be disrespectful or just being real.
868
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:44.980
Like it's a real, it's a real open and honest
869
00:39:45.019 --> 00:39:48.659
conversation that needs to be had. And, Fortunately, it doesn't
870
00:39:48.699 --> 00:39:50.820
seem like they were caring too much about it or
871
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.380
doing too much under the AEW umbrella.
872
00:39:53.420 --> 00:39:55.119
But maybe they were with it. Maybe he was able
873
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:55.699
to get clean.
874
00:39:55.980 --> 00:39:57.960
Maybe they didn't have somebody watching and he bought like
875
00:39:58.489 --> 00:40:00.719
he bought like the fake pee or whatever. You know,
876
00:40:00.739 --> 00:40:02.489
there's a lot of different things that could have been.
877
00:40:02.510 --> 00:40:06.730
I'm just saying if he's if he's was in the
878
00:40:06.750 --> 00:40:10.130
pain that they said and was taking like people think
879
00:40:10.150 --> 00:40:13.880
he was. And I understand it completely. I totally get it.
880
00:40:14.150 --> 00:40:15.449
I've been there. Right.
881
00:40:15.750 --> 00:40:18.789
If your prescription runs out and you're out of town,
882
00:40:19.300 --> 00:40:21.460
you're not in your normal spot. You're in Chicago.
883
00:40:21.699 --> 00:40:21.900
Right.
884
00:40:22.500 --> 00:40:25.730
You have to rely on somebody you might know to
885
00:40:25.769 --> 00:40:29.519
get something you might need. Right. it might get the
886
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.239
wrong thing. That's what I thought.
887
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:31.570
Yeah.
888
00:40:31.590 --> 00:40:34.289
And I thought Tom Petty immediately, cause he wasn't home.
889
00:40:34.309 --> 00:40:35.070
He was on the road.
890
00:40:35.090 --> 00:40:36.130
Yeah.
891
00:40:36.210 --> 00:40:37.570
Same fucking thing.
892
00:40:37.750 --> 00:40:38.010
Yup.
893
00:40:38.190 --> 00:40:39.489
Same thing. Yup.
894
00:40:39.789 --> 00:40:42.010
And, and, and it's, and it's one of those things
895
00:40:42.030 --> 00:40:43.349
where it doesn't discriminate.
896
00:40:43.510 --> 00:40:46.469
You know, it just, it, it can get anybody, no
897
00:40:46.489 --> 00:40:48.429
matter how famous or rich or.
898
00:40:48.969 --> 00:40:51.610
Yeah. And again, we didn't know, we didn't know Tom
899
00:40:51.659 --> 00:40:54.599
Petty was on pain medication.
900
00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:55.159
Right.
901
00:40:56.300 --> 00:41:00.059
Again, it's hidden so easily. That's the thing people don't understand.
902
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.730
It can be hidden so easily from people. I did
903
00:41:03.769 --> 00:41:08.289
it for close to 10 years. I was five or six.
904
00:41:08.489 --> 00:41:13.389
Close enough. I hid it from people, family, my wife
905
00:41:13.429 --> 00:41:16.760
at the time. I say at the time because when
906
00:41:16.780 --> 00:41:18.360
she found out, she no longer was with me.
907
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:19.280
There you go.
908
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.019
That's when my bottom part popped out and I had
909
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:28.130
to get help. But until that point, nobody knew. Nobody knew.
910
00:41:28.449 --> 00:41:31.210
And I asked afterwards, did you guys see anything? No,
911
00:41:31.250 --> 00:41:33.179
we couldn't tell. Nobody knew.
912
00:41:33.949 --> 00:41:37.719
Right. Well, that's also a thing, too, especially in the
913
00:41:37.780 --> 00:41:40.380
real world where you're not doing athletic endeavors where you
914
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:44.119
could be getting injured or whatever. It's not something someone's
915
00:41:44.139 --> 00:41:46.059
going to think about. You know what I mean? With
916
00:41:46.099 --> 00:41:49.360
a regular person, whether it's your spouse or a co-worker,
917
00:41:50.539 --> 00:41:55.260
in a non-physical endeavor, in wrestling... I feel like there's
918
00:41:55.300 --> 00:41:57.619
a little bit more of that window being open where
919
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.280
you think that because we've seen it countless times where
920
00:42:01.300 --> 00:42:04.789
guys have had issues, especially not as much recently because
921
00:42:04.809 --> 00:42:07.130
there has been way more testing in WWE and they
922
00:42:07.170 --> 00:42:09.710
have the wellness policy where you can get help if
923
00:42:09.730 --> 00:42:12.050
you're in the issue. But I mean, how many wrestlers
924
00:42:12.070 --> 00:42:16.070
have we seen die? I mean, due to Mr. Perfect.
925
00:42:16.090 --> 00:42:21.940
The problem becomes it might get semi better, but it's
926
00:42:22.019 --> 00:42:25.150
never going to be completed. better right it's never never
927
00:42:25.170 --> 00:42:28.230
going to happen no because again addicts are addicts for
928
00:42:28.250 --> 00:42:31.269
a reason yeah and they hide and you just don't
929
00:42:31.309 --> 00:42:34.880
know so they can test all they want and it's
930
00:42:35.019 --> 00:42:37.860
never going to be 100 it just can't yeah.
931
00:42:37.940 --> 00:42:42.179
No oh yeah no it's just um yeah and it's
932
00:42:42.579 --> 00:42:46.469
it's i just it i i would be hard pressed
933
00:42:46.510 --> 00:42:49.250
to find myself believing that they were testing in aw
934
00:42:49.329 --> 00:42:51.559
at all I just really don't think there was.
935
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.579
I mean, I know Tony has said there was, but
936
00:42:53.619 --> 00:42:54.179
he says a lot.
937
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:56.539
He also says they're on their greatest run of shows
938
00:42:56.579 --> 00:42:58.929
when they've had like five crappy shows in a row. So,
939
00:42:58.949 --> 00:43:01.090
you know, you know, it's one of those things where
940
00:43:01.110 --> 00:43:02.949
we're going.
941
00:43:02.849 --> 00:43:04.389
To have to see where the legal stuff comes out
942
00:43:04.429 --> 00:43:04.650
with it.
943
00:43:04.650 --> 00:43:07.829
And I could easily see some investigative reporter thinking that
944
00:43:07.849 --> 00:43:10.650
this is a big story, mostly because it leads up
945
00:43:10.710 --> 00:43:12.949
to an NFL owner, you know, and trying to find
946
00:43:13.010 --> 00:43:16.159
out what happened with it and, I don't know. It's
947
00:43:16.179 --> 00:43:18.559
going to be very interesting to see how this shakes
948
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:19.579
out throughout the rest of the year.
949
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.719
I think Tony, even though we all think somehow he's stupid,
950
00:43:23.949 --> 00:43:26.170
I think he's very smart when it comes to this stuff.
951
00:43:26.610 --> 00:43:30.530
Oh, no. Like I said, I think he's very smart
952
00:43:30.570 --> 00:43:32.510
in certain areas and certain things with it. I just
953
00:43:32.530 --> 00:43:34.800
don't think he's got a lot of street smarts and
954
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:36.900
common sense. No, he's none of that.
955
00:43:36.940 --> 00:43:37.059
Right.
956
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:38.980
And that comes from being a child of a billionaire
957
00:43:39.019 --> 00:43:42.159
your whole life, like I've said before. You know, your teachers,
958
00:43:43.070 --> 00:43:45.030
your friends, parents, no one was going to say no
959
00:43:45.070 --> 00:43:47.869
to you because you're the richest kid in school or whatever.
960
00:43:48.050 --> 00:43:52.690
Go ahead. Well, that can also make you think that
961
00:43:52.710 --> 00:43:54.829
you can get away with anything, too, where you're just like,
962
00:43:54.869 --> 00:43:57.110
it's not going to affect me. Like, you know that
963
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.860
something's bad, but you're like, I'm not worried about it
964
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:01.420
because it's not going to affect me.
965
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.780
You already get.
966
00:44:03.699 --> 00:44:06.769
Out of it. exactly exactly you've always been able to
967
00:44:06.829 --> 00:44:08.389
pay your way out of with it or just how
968
00:44:08.409 --> 00:44:10.590
many you know yeah just how many people in the
969
00:44:10.630 --> 00:44:12.789
world were they were you see it where like i
970
00:44:12.849 --> 00:44:15.530
didn't think it would happen to me in any situation
971
00:44:15.570 --> 00:44:17.550
i'm just talking about stuff like this just oh i
972
00:44:17.570 --> 00:44:19.179
didn't think it would happen to me or like people
973
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.199
you don't think people don't think they're gonna die in
974
00:44:21.219 --> 00:44:23.159
a car accident and they do and it's just uh
975
00:44:23.179 --> 00:44:25.860
i don't know it's gonna be very incredible and that's
976
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.329
why the tribute show they've definitely just they made it
977
00:44:30.389 --> 00:44:32.679
about Pac and his life and the career and stuff.
978
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.860
But the whole time I was watching, I was just,
979
00:44:35.940 --> 00:44:39.019
it was in the back of my mind of like, man,
980
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:41.539
whatever this comes out to being is going to, it's just,
981
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:43.980
I don't know. It just, it just gives me the
982
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.280
heebie jeebies about it. I, cause that's the thing is
983
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.440
I don't want to see the company fail. Like Tony
984
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.719
bothers me and he pisses me off with the decision
985
00:44:50.739 --> 00:44:53.190
that he makes sometimes with it. But I like the
986
00:44:53.250 --> 00:44:55.849
idea of there being on secondary wrestling company. I just
987
00:44:55.869 --> 00:44:58.500
wish they would, focus on being themselves and being the
988
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:00.960
best product they can be in the best alternative they
989
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.989
can be. Instead of we've got to compete with WWE.
990
00:45:04.030 --> 00:45:06.570
I mean, if I didn't see the entire press conference,
991
00:45:06.610 --> 00:45:08.550
but I watched all of Will Ospreay's bit. And the
992
00:45:08.690 --> 00:45:11.630
first thing he talks about is, oh, well, everybody who
993
00:45:11.650 --> 00:45:13.550
came here tonight chose the right company.
994
00:45:13.590 --> 00:45:15.139
Like, don't worry about that.
995
00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:16.739
Just be like, man, I'm so thankful that we sold
996
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.139
the building out tonight and be happy and move forward,
997
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.480
you know? And then everyone's like, oh, well, but WWE
998
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:26.650
talk crap about WCF. Because there was an actual war.
999
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.219
They were very close. They were basically both the same
1000
00:45:30.260 --> 00:45:34.860
style of product and getting a similar amount of views.
1001
00:45:35.059 --> 00:45:37.079
It's not where this is at this point, and they
1002
00:45:37.099 --> 00:45:41.010
should focus on themselves, but it's what it is. I
1003
00:45:41.050 --> 00:45:43.349
don't know. It's going to be very interesting to see
1004
00:45:43.369 --> 00:45:45.769
how this comes out.
1005
00:45:46.110 --> 00:45:49.010
I think you're going to get 90% of the story.
1006
00:45:49.030 --> 00:45:52.449
I think there'll be some parts that you were not
1007
00:45:52.469 --> 00:45:52.800
going to see.
1008
00:45:53.210 --> 00:46:00.360
Probably, especially if his family is okay in the sense
1009
00:46:00.380 --> 00:46:03.260
where they're not looking for revenge or looking to get
1010
00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:05.539
anybody out of it, they can hold. Because it's going
1011
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.579
to be up to them with what gets released on
1012
00:46:07.619 --> 00:46:08.440
a lot of that stuff.
1013
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.719
Yeah, I have also a strange feeling that, like I said,
1014
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.889
Tony was already there, took care of things, maybe an
1015
00:46:14.969 --> 00:46:16.630
NDA or two were signed, who knows.
1016
00:46:16.650 --> 00:46:21.900
Yeah, I mean... yeah especially and and that's a terrible
1017
00:46:21.940 --> 00:46:23.619
thing too you think about but like when people are
1018
00:46:23.659 --> 00:46:26.969
super distraught you hear them like not they were taken
1019
00:46:27.010 --> 00:46:30.630
advantage of but they could have been in a sense
1020
00:46:30.650 --> 00:46:33.190
where like here sign this take this money and shush
1021
00:46:33.250 --> 00:46:36.389
and go away and like they're happy they're not thinking
1022
00:46:36.409 --> 00:46:38.500
in the right mindset and i'm sure he did offer
1023
00:46:38.579 --> 00:46:40.420
it's like they offered him a smaller sum and they
1024
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.079
try to undercut i'm sure it's a large sum but
1025
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:49.800
yeah Still, yeah. But also, too, are those NDAs international? Like,
1026
00:46:49.900 --> 00:46:51.719
is it something where, yeah, in the States you can't
1027
00:46:51.739 --> 00:46:52.300
get sued?
1028
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.639
Again, Tony and Shad's lawyers get paid a lot of
1029
00:46:55.659 --> 00:46:56.900
good money to do what they do.
1030
00:46:57.860 --> 00:46:58.869
Shad's lawyers do.
1031
00:46:58.909 --> 00:47:01.710
We've seen that Tony's lawyers might not always be the best.
1032
00:47:02.989 --> 00:47:06.989
But Shad's, yes. And that's where I keep thinking, too.
1033
00:47:07.190 --> 00:47:10.050
Because I don't think that this story would pull down
1034
00:47:10.130 --> 00:47:13.800
AEW and shut them down forever. because of them getting
1035
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.179
sued or whatever. I could just see Shad being like,
1036
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.449
this is a black eye on me. I'm getting asked
1037
00:47:19.610 --> 00:47:23.190
in my NFL press conferences when I sign a new
1038
00:47:23.269 --> 00:47:26.269
coach or sign a new player or whatever. I'm getting
1039
00:47:26.369 --> 00:47:29.449
asked about my son's wrestling company and who died. I
1040
00:47:31.070 --> 00:47:33.909
don't know. I put my hands up. We'll see.
1041
00:47:34.449 --> 00:47:37.150
Like I said, I think they'll make this one through okay.
1042
00:47:38.570 --> 00:47:40.340
but changes got to be made.
1043
00:47:40.659 --> 00:47:42.559
Oh, that, that I'll say as long as the, you're right.
1044
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.820
As long as they're making drastic and massive changes and
1045
00:47:45.860 --> 00:47:48.739
let's see in three to six months, if Brian cage
1046
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.960
is no longer in bodybuilding competitions and like, you know,
1047
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.699
like we said, Kenny Omega looks as best as he can,
1048
00:47:55.780 --> 00:47:57.500
but what if, you know, if he's, if he starts
1049
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.900
looking more like Jericho, it's just not, not Jericho now,
1050
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.219
but like Jericho, the Jericho appreciation society, chubby Jericho, you
1051
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:05.980
know what I mean? Like there's what we will see.
1052
00:48:06.260 --> 00:48:09.269
We will see. Or maybe guys will have to take
1053
00:48:09.289 --> 00:48:11.369
the money that we're spending on wine and then get
1054
00:48:11.409 --> 00:48:15.590
a really good nutritionist and work it out differently. I
1055
00:48:15.630 --> 00:48:17.949
don't know. But yeah, there's got to be sweeping.
1056
00:48:17.590 --> 00:48:21.760
And massive changes. You can find PEDs that are– you
1057
00:48:21.780 --> 00:48:22.920
get a prescription for them.
1058
00:48:22.980 --> 00:48:23.400
That's all.
1059
00:48:25.460 --> 00:48:26.519
It's just the way it is.
1060
00:48:26.739 --> 00:48:28.159
Right, but not the amount.
1061
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.860
Not the amount. No, no. But you can take– again,
1062
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:34.179
you get a prescription. You can abuse the prescription. It's
1063
00:48:34.300 --> 00:48:37.909
how things work. It's just weird. It's strange.
1064
00:48:38.530 --> 00:48:39.429
Yeah, no, you're right.
1065
00:48:39.670 --> 00:48:40.090
You're right.
1066
00:48:42.690 --> 00:48:44.650
And maybe we're going to find out that there's a,
1067
00:48:44.909 --> 00:48:45.469
what was it?
1068
00:48:45.489 --> 00:48:45.969
Zahorian?
1069
00:48:46.030 --> 00:48:48.409
Like there's an AEW version of Dr.
1070
00:48:48.449 --> 00:48:51.389
Zahorian. Like we don't know. It's just going to be
1071
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.710
very interesting to see, but I think you nailed it.
1072
00:48:54.739 --> 00:48:57.300
I think it's probably, if it is painkillers, I think
1073
00:48:57.340 --> 00:49:01.460
that's what happened where he had an addiction. He wrestled
1074
00:49:01.500 --> 00:49:03.780
his ass off on Saturday night and was hurting and
1075
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.079
You know, maybe he brought as much as he thought
1076
00:49:06.099 --> 00:49:08.699
he needed and was running low and maybe had like
1077
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.260
a seven o'clock flight and was like, I got to
1078
00:49:11.300 --> 00:49:12.650
get I got to be able to get through that
1079
00:49:12.710 --> 00:49:14.489
flight to get home. So I'm not puking in the
1080
00:49:14.510 --> 00:49:18.010
bathroom or whatever, you know, was told where to go.
1081
00:49:18.070 --> 00:49:21.000
Called a person and takes the wrong one and.
1082
00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:24.659
It also too like you said where you know if
1083
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:26.840
you're in that situation you're not just taking one or
1084
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:30.739
two you know you're taking multiples and you're probably not
1085
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.159
just swallowing them you're probably i'm not saying he was
1086
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.280
shooting up but i'm saying probably was sorting them that's
1087
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:36.789
usually how that works and.
1088
00:49:36.670 --> 00:49:38.690
That's that's tough to do you brother you're better off
1089
00:49:38.730 --> 00:49:44.889
chewing maybe because that stuff those those things kill your
1090
00:49:44.929 --> 00:49:47.579
night nasal passages Yeah.
1091
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:48.480
You're right.
1092
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:49.579
I tried, I tried it once.
1093
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.159
I get you. Um, but just, it depends on the
1094
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.280
person and where it was and maybe how quickly you need,
1095
00:49:57.300 --> 00:49:59.980
like if he was already starting to go into a withdrawal,
1096
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:01.679
like I could see it just being like, fuck, I
1097
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:02.400
gotta get, you.
1098
00:50:02.340 --> 00:50:03.429
Know, you hear that too.
1099
00:50:03.469 --> 00:50:07.090
Sometimes when people, um, like people that got clean and
1100
00:50:07.130 --> 00:50:10.170
then relapse where, you know, they take one or two
1101
00:50:10.230 --> 00:50:12.829
in the relapse and then it's, it's the wrong thing
1102
00:50:12.909 --> 00:50:14.730
or their body's not ready or whatever.
1103
00:50:14.829 --> 00:50:17.079
Like there's, There's so many scenarios.
1104
00:50:17.099 --> 00:50:19.139
People that relapse think they can take the same amount
1105
00:50:19.179 --> 00:50:19.889
they did prior.
1106
00:50:20.469 --> 00:50:22.570
Right. And if they were taking a ton.
1107
00:50:22.590 --> 00:50:25.570
Like I was taking, okay, I was taking four before.
1108
00:50:25.630 --> 00:50:27.929
I should take four now. Four now would knock you
1109
00:50:27.949 --> 00:50:28.469
in your ass.
1110
00:50:28.889 --> 00:50:30.150
Right. Exactly.
1111
00:50:30.190 --> 00:50:31.889
That's a problem.
1112
00:50:32.389 --> 00:50:34.190
Or it's kind of like a gummy where they'll take
1113
00:50:34.329 --> 00:50:35.849
two and it's like, it's not hitting. So I got
1114
00:50:35.869 --> 00:50:36.530
to take two more.
1115
00:50:36.789 --> 00:50:38.590
And if they had just waited 15 minutes, they'd have
1116
00:50:38.610 --> 00:50:39.030
been fine.
1117
00:50:39.389 --> 00:50:42.949
Right. Yeah. No. And that's where you just don't know.
1118
00:50:43.130 --> 00:50:45.579
And that's where... And also too, I haven't heard, I
1119
00:50:45.619 --> 00:50:47.039
saw somebody in the chat post it. And as I
1120
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:49.139
don't remember what it was, but somebody has like, was,
1121
00:50:49.260 --> 00:50:49.739
what was that?
1122
00:50:49.780 --> 00:50:51.400
What was found in his car? I don't think we've
1123
00:50:51.420 --> 00:50:52.539
heard anything about that yet.
1124
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:52.920
Was there.
1125
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:54.099
Cause it's under investigation.
1126
00:50:54.139 --> 00:50:55.219
Right. Right. Yeah. Was there.
1127
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:55.320
Yeah.
1128
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:57.340
And what that's going to be interesting of what they
1129
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.469
find in there is their remnants. Was there.
1130
00:51:01.769 --> 00:51:03.309
Oh yeah.
1131
00:51:03.429 --> 00:51:06.469
Oh no. And that stuff will come out like the
1132
00:51:06.530 --> 00:51:10.429
corner report, the doctor or the police investigation. Like, cause
1133
00:51:10.489 --> 00:51:12.780
legally that's going to have to come out. And if
1134
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.599
it doesn't, Freedom of Information Act, someone can do that too.
1135
00:51:15.619 --> 00:51:18.840
You know what I mean? It's one of those things
1136
00:51:18.860 --> 00:51:21.179
where you could get a FOIA on them and we'll see.
1137
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:22.639
I don't know, man.
1138
00:51:23.170 --> 00:51:25.449
Again, if you're going through any issues, you can text
1139
00:51:25.530 --> 00:51:28.570
or call 988 or get a hold of me or Jake.
1140
00:51:28.630 --> 00:51:30.489
DM us. We'll give you our phone number. You can
1141
00:51:30.530 --> 00:51:30.869
call us.
1142
00:51:30.969 --> 00:51:33.809
Please. Yeah, absolutely. And if it's something too where you're
1143
00:51:34.050 --> 00:51:36.409
embarrassed or whatever about it, like George just gave you
1144
00:51:36.449 --> 00:51:38.949
his whole stories with it. We've all got our own
1145
00:51:38.989 --> 00:51:42.139
stories and different stuff. Like it's... no judgment. We only
1146
00:51:42.179 --> 00:51:44.639
want people to be healthy and alive and get help
1147
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:46.840
to help that they need. Cause it's also one of
1148
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:51.239
those things where if you are in that situation, eventually financially,
1149
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:52.820
you're not going to be able to keep up with
1150
00:51:52.900 --> 00:51:56.820
it unless you're, unless you're making tons and tons of money. Yeah.
1151
00:51:56.969 --> 00:52:00.590
You know, that's yeah.
1152
00:52:00.909 --> 00:52:04.590
Now the whole thing is just crazy and that's, and
1153
00:52:04.610 --> 00:52:07.090
that leads us into where we were last night of, of,
1154
00:52:07.349 --> 00:52:07.710
of the.
1155
00:52:07.809 --> 00:52:09.269
I'm glad you let, I'm glad you let us talk
1156
00:52:09.309 --> 00:52:09.630
about this.
1157
00:52:09.690 --> 00:52:11.409
Absolutely. No, I kind of thought we were going to,
1158
00:52:11.409 --> 00:52:13.849
I was kind of planning to, I just, and this
1159
00:52:13.869 --> 00:52:15.929
thing is like, I don't want to just scorched earth
1160
00:52:15.989 --> 00:52:18.219
and burn Tony to the ground for this, but if
1161
00:52:18.260 --> 00:52:21.800
there isn't an A, like I just, it's, I don't know. Yeah,
1162
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.420
we will. And I mean, it just sucks for them.
1163
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.380
I mean, the fact that they have to do two
1164
00:52:27.460 --> 00:52:29.599
tribute shows in the span of a month, like I
1165
00:52:30.179 --> 00:52:34.360
believe like, The night of Pac's, the Pac night, I
1166
00:52:34.380 --> 00:52:38.380
think where he was heading from Chicago was to Buffalo
1167
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:39.800
for Andy Williams' service.
1168
00:52:39.820 --> 00:52:41.699
I believe that was the same day or maybe it
1169
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:42.159
was Monday.
1170
00:52:43.420 --> 00:52:45.719
That was where he was headed from my understanding was
1171
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.250
to go to the service for the Butcher and then
1172
00:52:48.809 --> 00:52:52.909
we're now doing this. And I know Andy Williams no
1173
00:52:53.130 --> 00:52:56.809
longer was with AEW and also it was a cardiac arrest,
1174
00:52:56.889 --> 00:52:58.190
but just still.
1175
00:52:58.730 --> 00:53:00.250
You know, it's just one of those.
1176
00:53:00.389 --> 00:53:02.809
That could also be from wearing terror for medications.
1177
00:53:03.449 --> 00:53:06.550
Yeah, no, that's exactly. And the, or, or, you know,
1178
00:53:06.570 --> 00:53:08.900
go back to Eddie Guerrero where he was helped, like
1179
00:53:08.940 --> 00:53:12.260
he had gotten clean and gotten healthy, but like he'd
1180
00:53:12.300 --> 00:53:14.300
done so much and his body.
1181
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.360
Was so distraught. Like his heart just eventually gave out.
1182
00:53:17.820 --> 00:53:20.510
That was my biggest fear when I, when I actually
1183
00:53:21.250 --> 00:53:23.289
quit and had to go to the doctor for a checkup.
1184
00:53:23.329 --> 00:53:25.050
My biggest fear was what have I done?
1185
00:53:25.650 --> 00:53:27.690
Right. Like, yeah, I could see that. What have I
1186
00:53:27.730 --> 00:53:29.550
done to myself? Yeah, no, I could see that a
1187
00:53:30.050 --> 00:53:33.260
hundred percent. And that's where, fortunately I worked out, worked
1188
00:53:33.340 --> 00:53:35.159
out well. Right. No, I was gonna say 10 years
1189
00:53:35.219 --> 00:53:37.260
is pretty good. And you're, and you, and our, and
1190
00:53:37.659 --> 00:53:40.239
also too, you didn't like, you know, hurt your immune system.
1191
00:53:40.260 --> 00:53:41.880
It looked like you're healing. Well, you're doing well with
1192
00:53:41.900 --> 00:53:44.760
your physical therapy. It's all good things, but you know,
1193
00:53:45.849 --> 00:53:48.550
Not everybody gets that, unfortunately. And then some people, you know,
1194
00:53:48.590 --> 00:53:50.659
they might only been addicted for like a year, but
1195
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:53.280
because of the way their body was, everybody's every single
1196
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:55.059
person is going to be different in how they react
1197
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:56.920
to it. Yeah.
1198
00:53:57.179 --> 00:53:59.429
Oh, we got a super chat here. Might as well
1199
00:53:59.449 --> 00:54:00.010
hit this one.
1200
00:54:00.289 --> 00:54:02.590
Sure. We do everything we can to prevent it. AEW
1201
00:54:02.630 --> 00:54:04.949
has the best safety record. I believe of any pro
1202
00:54:04.969 --> 00:54:09.719
wrestling company in the world. not anymore awful wrestling for
1203
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:11.519
five dollars i played that song for you because you
1204
00:54:11.539 --> 00:54:13.219
guys were looking for it on your show last night
1205
00:54:13.539 --> 00:54:15.900
if you guys need that for us on wds let
1206
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:18.389
me know i i've got it thank you travis for
1207
00:54:18.409 --> 00:54:22.230
those um this is going to be an extremely interesting
1208
00:54:22.349 --> 00:54:25.389
october i agree i think it might take october and
1209
00:54:25.429 --> 00:54:28.989
into november to get all i think but yeah it's
1210
00:54:29.010 --> 00:54:30.750
still going to be interesting stuff's going to come out
1211
00:54:30.789 --> 00:54:33.650
stuff's going to leak i uh it's going to be
1212
00:54:33.769 --> 00:54:36.829
very interesting. I'm, I'm, I wouldn't be surprised if there's,
1213
00:54:36.849 --> 00:54:40.530
like I said, an investigative report from someone just cause
1214
00:54:42.110 --> 00:54:42.989
his dad's a Billy.
1215
00:54:43.010 --> 00:54:47.070
I mean, he's a, he always keep your eyes on TMZ, right? Yeah.
1216
00:54:47.329 --> 00:54:49.889
There are the little fuckers that get in there.
1217
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:50.570
Yeah.
1218
00:54:51.500 --> 00:54:53.800
They would, I mean, how many videos and stuff.
1219
00:54:54.139 --> 00:54:57.380
Remember Ray Rice? No, that's why I was surprised that,
1220
00:54:58.250 --> 00:55:01.010
on Sunday when we found out live on air, which
1221
00:55:01.090 --> 00:55:02.320
is the craziest thing.
1222
00:55:02.179 --> 00:55:04.679
That's happened to us doing live shows to date.
1223
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:08.829
Um, you know, when, uh, When Smartest Mark Alive said it, like,
1224
00:55:08.869 --> 00:55:11.150
I immediately, while my other monitor was pulling up Twitter,
1225
00:55:12.369 --> 00:55:14.789
and I was shocked that it was AEW who broke
1226
00:55:14.809 --> 00:55:17.960
the story and not TMZ. Like, I was shocked that
1227
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:22.820
it wasn't TMZ breaking the story. In WWE's case, they're
1228
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:25.400
probably happy it wasn't TMZ because they probably would have been, like,
1229
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:31.190
former WWE wrestler. You know? I out. Um, but yeah,
1230
00:55:31.250 --> 00:55:33.090
we will, we will keep you guys abreast of it
1231
00:55:33.110 --> 00:55:35.110
is what we hear. Uh, I mean, the whole point
1232
00:55:35.179 --> 00:55:37.280
of what we're going to be doing with WDS on
1233
00:55:37.340 --> 00:55:40.400
Tuesdays is talking about the sheets and they're reporting and
1234
00:55:40.420 --> 00:55:43.199
it'll be interesting of how they don't cover a lot
1235
00:55:43.219 --> 00:55:46.079
of this for the reporters that think that they're, you know,
1236
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:48.400
they said it the last night on, this is awful too.
1237
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:50.940
Like those post wrestling guys that have been, you know,
1238
00:55:50.980 --> 00:55:54.000
especially Brandon Thurston, then it's like, and Pollock that are
1239
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:56.739
so focused on the Janelle Crent case. Cause they're, they're
1240
00:55:56.820 --> 00:56:00.429
real reporters. This is a real story. how deeply are
1241
00:56:00.469 --> 00:56:03.800
they going to cover this one? You know, cause John
1242
00:56:04.010 --> 00:56:07.440
Pollock was in, was at the press conference and kissed
1243
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.659
Tony's ass before asking a question. I think it was
1244
00:56:09.699 --> 00:56:12.579
the last question that we heard before Don Stevens took
1245
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.039
them down. And obviously I didn't go watch the rest
1246
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:17.320
of the press scrum. I only saw my boys watch,
1247
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.969
but I, it's going to be interesting, man. But you know,
1248
00:56:21.250 --> 00:56:24.460
in the end of all to it, you know, rest
1249
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:27.139
easy Pac rest in peace it does suck you know
1250
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.340
Ben you know it's because it is the other two
1251
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:33.639
is we're talking about a human being with a family
1252
00:56:33.699 --> 00:56:36.659
and you know whether you like this wrestling style or
1253
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.079
not that has got nothing to do with it it's
1254
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:39.579
a man.
1255
00:56:39.300 --> 00:56:43.280
Again this whole conversation that we've had today and that
1256
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:47.250
this and awful had yesterday this whole conversation would never
1257
00:56:47.389 --> 00:56:52.389
happening unless they unless the wording the way the way
1258
00:56:52.409 --> 00:56:56.030
they worded the story And the way it got out,
1259
00:56:56.389 --> 00:56:59.800
that's the only reason why we had this conversation. If
1260
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:03.420
they just would have said he was found in his car,
1261
00:57:03.860 --> 00:57:08.039
passed away at 8408, nothing to talk about.
1262
00:57:08.059 --> 00:57:09.519
Nothing.
1263
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:13.860
The way it was worded was the problem. If it
1264
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.869
wouldn't have been worded this way, we wouldn't lead to
1265
00:57:16.889 --> 00:57:17.570
where we're leading.
1266
00:57:17.610 --> 00:57:18.170
That's all.
1267
00:57:18.449 --> 00:57:21.269
And again, it comes out where it's just If it
1268
00:57:21.289 --> 00:57:24.309
was something that was in a blood clot or something,
1269
00:57:24.369 --> 00:57:27.570
then I'll be happy to say I was wrong. I'm
1270
00:57:27.590 --> 00:57:29.590
not going to problem with that. But again, the way
1271
00:57:29.659 --> 00:57:33.079
it was worded was why I took things the way
1272
00:57:33.219 --> 00:57:36.159
I took things because I've lived in that culture and
1273
00:57:36.179 --> 00:57:37.280
I know what that means.
1274
00:57:37.659 --> 00:57:40.139
No, and that was one of the reasons why when
1275
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:41.690
you wanted to start this conversation, I was happy to
1276
00:57:41.730 --> 00:57:43.750
have it because you've got that personal experience.
1277
00:57:43.809 --> 00:57:44.289
I get that.
1278
00:57:44.670 --> 00:57:46.250
But I mean, it could have easily been like, I
1279
00:57:46.250 --> 00:57:49.309
don't know, a brain aneurysm or an aortic aneurysm because
1280
00:57:49.340 --> 00:57:51.920
those things, if those burst, you're done.
1281
00:57:52.860 --> 00:57:56.199
And then we come out on Sunday or Thursday next
1282
00:57:56.260 --> 00:57:58.699
week and say, I was wrong and I'm terribly sorry.
1283
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:00.659
And I thought you should have worded it differently then.
1284
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:02.969
Yes, I was going to. Yeah, exactly. No, we are
1285
00:58:03.010 --> 00:58:04.449
the first people. I mean, that's what we talked about
1286
00:58:04.510 --> 00:58:08.070
on Sunday with SMA. Like, hey, I'm happy to be wrong.
1287
00:58:08.130 --> 00:58:10.750
I'm not looking to be wrong, but if I'm wrong,
1288
00:58:10.809 --> 00:58:12.659
I will admit it. I've got no problem with it.
1289
00:58:13.010 --> 00:58:15.920
You know, and that's where Like I know about aneurysms.
1290
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:18.550
My father died of an aortic aneurysm and it was,
1291
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:21.929
it burst on him. Now granted, because he was so
1292
00:58:22.010 --> 00:58:24.489
healthy and in a good shape, like he lived longer
1293
00:58:24.510 --> 00:58:26.530
than he should have with it, like a couple of hours.
1294
00:58:26.610 --> 00:58:28.909
But you know, there's some people where you hear where
1295
00:58:28.949 --> 00:58:31.469
it's just boom and they're done. Remember Peter Gammons almost
1296
00:58:31.510 --> 00:58:33.320
died forever ago where like he was in his car
1297
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:35.260
and they were able to save him. But like those
1298
00:58:35.300 --> 00:58:37.820
things can happen. It just, the way they were wording
1299
00:58:37.860 --> 00:58:41.719
with the slumped over just like, Ah, yeah.
1300
00:58:41.940 --> 00:58:44.760
I mean, when you, when you, the headlines slumped over
1301
00:58:44.780 --> 00:58:47.199
in the front and then you hear the dispatcher say slumper.
1302
00:58:47.820 --> 00:58:48.719
Yeah. Yeah.
1303
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:50.469
That's, I mean, that's where people are going to go.
1304
00:58:50.510 --> 00:58:52.550
I'm sorry. You shouldn't have put that out there. Right.
1305
00:58:53.090 --> 00:58:55.710
Well, and, and maybe the dispatch, I mean, he could
1306
00:58:55.730 --> 00:58:58.590
have been a dispatcher who was, you know, jaded and
1307
00:58:58.730 --> 00:59:01.010
a little day and just like, cause somebody was, he
1308
00:59:01.030 --> 00:59:03.030
was leaning over cause he might've already been like, and
1309
00:59:03.050 --> 00:59:05.750
they're just saying that probably shouldn't have, but it's, it
1310
00:59:05.809 --> 00:59:08.750
just sets it up to where it's what it looks like.
1311
00:59:08.829 --> 00:59:09.309
I don't know.
1312
00:59:09.429 --> 00:59:11.400
We're going to see. Yeah.
1313
00:59:11.539 --> 00:59:12.159
I hope I'm wrong.
1314
00:59:12.179 --> 00:59:14.400
Yeah, I do too.
1315
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:16.679
Like that's the thing is people think I get, I
1316
00:59:16.699 --> 00:59:17.679
get accused of being a.
1317
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:20.780
Fed head or an etard all the time. I'm not,
1318
00:59:21.340 --> 00:59:23.300
I don't have any allegiance to these companies. I get mad.
1319
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:24.699
Like I said, I get mad at Tony cause I
1320
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:26.739
think he could run his company so much better because
1321
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:28.800
but that doesn't mean like I hate them and want
1322
00:59:28.820 --> 00:59:31.900
them to fail. I want people to die. I, I, I'm,
1323
00:59:31.940 --> 00:59:33.679
we're just going by the information that we have in
1324
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:36.440
front of us. And it's a, it's a good conversation
1325
00:59:36.460 --> 00:59:38.739
to have. And also happy that we had it too.
1326
00:59:38.820 --> 00:59:41.369
Cause getting it out there of like, Hey, if somebody
1327
00:59:41.429 --> 00:59:45.050
listening does have a problem, please reach out. We will.
1328
00:59:45.510 --> 00:59:46.010
Yeah.
1329
00:59:47.349 --> 00:59:47.750
Exactly.
1330
00:59:47.789 --> 00:59:47.949
Yeah.
1331
00:59:48.190 --> 00:59:50.289
And there's also there, there's other hotlines and there's, there's
1332
00:59:50.349 --> 00:59:51.210
local places too.
1333
00:59:51.250 --> 00:59:52.590
You can go talk to somebody in person.
1334
00:59:53.130 --> 00:59:57.130
Like, yeah, there's, there's, there's plenty of it, but, um, Yeah,
1335
00:59:57.210 --> 01:00:00.670
I mean, so we'll get into the show. It's not
1336
01:00:00.769 --> 01:00:02.250
that much to cover in the sense of it because
1337
01:00:02.269 --> 01:00:04.260
there's a lot of guys talking, but we'll talk for sure.
1338
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:07.619
This is another thing, and this is probably just me.
1339
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:09.019
This is from Pittsburgh.
1340
01:00:09.820 --> 01:00:13.380
Yes, they were in Pittsburgh. Excalibur should not have had
1341
01:00:13.420 --> 01:00:15.449
his mask on here. Or maybe he should have taken
1342
01:00:15.489 --> 01:00:16.239
it off to give this.
1343
01:00:16.300 --> 01:00:18.329
I would agree with that 100%. Like, we're not living
1344
01:00:18.349 --> 01:00:18.500
in the.
1345
01:00:23.699 --> 01:00:28.340
I'm going to say in the 1900s, but, you know, 1980,
1346
01:00:28.340 --> 01:00:30.920
you don't need to cover. We know who you are.
1347
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:33.300
You know, your real name is out there. There's pictures
1348
01:00:33.340 --> 01:00:36.440
of you without the mask on. Like, I don't know.
1349
01:00:36.460 --> 01:00:40.019
This just felt to me like really, really shitty where
1350
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:42.980
he could have. And I know, like, he's saying all
1351
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.380
the right words or whatever with it. But just I, I,
1352
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:46.719
I didn't like that.
1353
01:00:46.780 --> 01:00:49.059
I thought it would have been nice if he would
1354
01:00:49.099 --> 01:00:51.219
have took the mask off and says of this, I
1355
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:52.510
am Mark, whatever my last.
1356
01:00:52.570 --> 01:00:53.159
Yeah, right.
1357
01:00:53.489 --> 01:00:56.800
Yeah. Mom, Mark. Instead of using his last name for real.
1358
01:00:57.159 --> 01:00:59.199
My name's Mark, and I want to say that this, this,
1359
01:00:59.219 --> 01:00:59.440
and this.
1360
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:00.639
I want to say this to my friend, Ben.
1361
01:01:00.659 --> 01:01:02.079
And then go back to being Excalibur after that.
1362
01:01:02.099 --> 01:01:06.000
That's fine. Because, yeah, to do the speech here that
1363
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:08.860
he gives, and then it cuts to Shivani in the ring,
1364
01:01:08.900 --> 01:01:10.719
put the mask back on to be the announcer. Like,
1365
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.159
that's fine. That's your gimmick or whatever, but... You're not
1366
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:16.280
protecting your identity. We know who you are. I don't know.
1367
01:01:16.340 --> 01:01:19.269
I just... And, like, I thought that, too, a bit
1368
01:01:19.309 --> 01:01:21.590
with The Butcher, but it didn't bother me as much
1369
01:01:21.630 --> 01:01:25.610
there because, you know, he wasn't a contracted wrestler and,
1370
01:01:26.250 --> 01:01:29.969
let's be real, wasn't as big storyline-wise as Pac has been.
1371
01:01:30.010 --> 01:01:32.090
You know, Pac's a former champion, all that kind of stuff.
1372
01:01:32.130 --> 01:01:33.150
But I don't know.
1373
01:01:33.230 --> 01:01:36.739
This just, again... It bothered me. I just felt like
1374
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:39.050
he should have taken the mask off, delivered the speech,
1375
01:01:39.070 --> 01:01:39.969
and then put it back on.
1376
01:01:40.230 --> 01:01:42.610
Because it goes to Tony Schiavone in the ring.
1377
01:01:42.630 --> 01:01:46.590
Two minutes with Tony was good. Yeah. This was the
1378
01:01:46.710 --> 01:01:49.079
two or three minutes when Tony Schiavone was tolerable. And
1379
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.610
after this, he sucked. Yeah. Yeah.
1380
01:01:52.650 --> 01:01:55.650
You're right. Cause he was very, you know, we're grief stricken.
1381
01:01:55.789 --> 01:01:58.710
We still are. Yeah. No, this was until, yeah. Once
1382
01:01:58.730 --> 01:02:00.730
he gets behind the table, I'm telling you, he was
1383
01:02:00.769 --> 01:02:01.090
good here.
1384
01:02:01.489 --> 01:02:01.710
Yeah.
1385
01:02:01.909 --> 01:02:04.150
No, if you, if you keep not that, not that
1386
01:02:04.190 --> 01:02:07.550
Excalibur or Shivani are great, but if you keep them separate,
1387
01:02:07.570 --> 01:02:09.570
you're going to get the best versions of each of them.
1388
01:02:09.929 --> 01:02:12.030
It's once you put them together and sit them next
1389
01:02:12.050 --> 01:02:15.630
to each other. at the announce table, they just feed
1390
01:02:15.650 --> 01:02:16.250
into each other's.
1391
01:02:16.289 --> 01:02:18.070
Yeah. They prove it during the rest of the show.
1392
01:02:18.369 --> 01:02:21.500
Yeah. I mean, honestly, like even when they went back,
1393
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:23.840
when it went back to the desk and like, they
1394
01:02:23.860 --> 01:02:25.340
were like, Oh, well, Pac would have wanted us to
1395
01:02:25.380 --> 01:02:28.159
continue and do it. Like Excalibur was chuckling. Like, Oh, well,
1396
01:02:28.179 --> 01:02:30.300
Pac would have wanted us to don't laugh. Not yet.
1397
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:33.300
I just, this was, that was bad, but I mean,
1398
01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:35.090
the 10 bell salute was good. Well, they, they first,
1399
01:02:35.110 --> 01:02:35.929
they cut to.
1400
01:02:36.190 --> 01:02:38.670
Okay. We're going to now, when they cut to this,
1401
01:02:39.110 --> 01:02:43.030
Shivani did say, That this is the last piece of
1402
01:02:43.110 --> 01:02:44.949
footage they have with Pac in it.
1403
01:02:45.730 --> 01:02:45.949
Right.
1404
01:02:46.230 --> 01:02:48.010
That's how it was phrased. It wasn't like this is
1405
01:02:48.070 --> 01:02:53.099
Pac's promo. They filmed this after the show with Moxley's promo.
1406
01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:57.440
And as they've been doing lately, they have Pac leave last.
1407
01:02:58.380 --> 01:03:01.820
Because they're setting up Pac either overturning Moxley or leaving.
1408
01:03:02.219 --> 01:03:04.119
They've been setting this up for a while.
1409
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:05.099
Yeah.
1410
01:03:05.739 --> 01:03:08.170
I think that's where they were going. is Pac was
1411
01:03:08.190 --> 01:03:10.809
going to turn on Moxley or turn babyface or something
1412
01:03:10.829 --> 01:03:13.889
of that nature. But every single promo they've done, Pac
1413
01:03:13.929 --> 01:03:16.340
has left last, and that's why they did this.
1414
01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:19.860
The way they did. Yeah, and even when he's leaving last,
1415
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:24.769
he's staring all angry about it. I definitely, from watching
1416
01:03:24.809 --> 01:03:27.829
this show for 54 weeks in a row now, It
1417
01:03:27.889 --> 01:03:30.070
seemed to me like that Pac was going to, that
1418
01:03:30.090 --> 01:03:32.730
the Death Riders were going to continue without Moxie. They
1419
01:03:32.750 --> 01:03:34.340
were going to jump him out of it, like jumping
1420
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:36.420
at him out of the gang or whatever. And then
1421
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:39.199
Mox could have taken that vacation we've talked about, which
1422
01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:40.239
that ain't happening now.
1423
01:03:41.860 --> 01:03:44.380
There were definite big plans for Pac. You could see
1424
01:03:44.420 --> 01:03:47.019
this coming week by week. And even after this promo,
1425
01:03:47.059 --> 01:03:47.820
you could see it coming.
1426
01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:50.559
Even during the promo, like the way Moxie was talking
1427
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:53.139
about it, like he was talking about how like, you know,
1428
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:55.889
he talked about like eulogies and funerals and stuff because
1429
01:03:55.929 --> 01:03:58.289
it was kind of like, his characters die.
1430
01:03:58.329 --> 01:04:00.710
Like they would like, this is ending for him like this.
1431
01:04:02.510 --> 01:04:03.750
They were clearly leading to that.
1432
01:04:03.769 --> 01:04:06.300
And this one, even almost more so because he stayed
1433
01:04:06.409 --> 01:04:07.619
longer than he had before.
1434
01:04:07.659 --> 01:04:09.500
He was staring angry the whole time.
1435
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.019
Like he's been getting in Mox's face the last few
1436
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:12.719
weeks with it.
1437
01:04:12.739 --> 01:04:14.619
Like that's definitely where this was going.
1438
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:17.539
But the only reason they showed it is because Pac's ending.
1439
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:18.219
Right.
1440
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:20.500
And that was the last piece of footage they had
1441
01:04:20.539 --> 01:04:24.389
of Pac. Right. Yeah. It wasn't like they were taking
1442
01:04:24.409 --> 01:04:27.250
the spotlight off. It was Pac's, you know, tribute show
1443
01:04:27.269 --> 01:04:28.869
it was just like they happened to film this and
1444
01:04:28.889 --> 01:04:29.849
this is what they got.
1445
01:04:30.030 --> 01:04:32.289
Right and it was the last and it literally was
1446
01:04:32.329 --> 01:04:36.539
the last because they filmed it after the pay-per-view so
1447
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:38.719
this would have been phil i mean since moxie was
1448
01:04:38.820 --> 01:04:41.199
in the main event and he's cleaned up afterwards like.
1449
01:04:42.670 --> 01:04:44.250
It was a late night for them with it. And
1450
01:04:44.289 --> 01:04:45.269
that's what this was filmed.
1451
01:04:45.349 --> 01:04:47.510
And then they come back and they do a 10
1452
01:04:47.510 --> 01:04:49.550
bell salute with everybody on stage.
1453
01:04:49.630 --> 01:04:51.969
And, you know, I mean, I guess that you get it.
1454
01:04:52.010 --> 01:04:55.980
And then I, everybody was, I mean, obviously they're going
1455
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.460
to be sad. They lost a coworker. Suddenly they're not
1456
01:04:58.619 --> 01:05:01.840
being able to, you know, process and handle it. Did
1457
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.340
think Aubrey was a little bit performative with it, but
1458
01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:04.960
that's Aubrey.
1459
01:05:05.260 --> 01:05:08.719
I didn't even notice her. I was, I was watching
1460
01:05:08.780 --> 01:05:09.920
Bryce Rensburg actually.
1461
01:05:10.139 --> 01:05:13.659
He was actually emotional. Right. Well, I've, and I mean,
1462
01:05:13.739 --> 01:05:16.699
he's been a referee for them because he did like,
1463
01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:17.260
I think he.
1464
01:05:17.179 --> 01:05:20.039
Was refereeing with Pac, but like when, before Pac was signed.
1465
01:05:20.059 --> 01:05:22.199
Yeah. He has a, he has a connection with him. Yes. Yeah.
1466
01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:25.380
Yeah. Yeah. No, they just, when they did one pan
1467
01:05:25.739 --> 01:05:28.099
and it showed off, like everybody else was like, sadly,
1468
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:30.340
you would see people crying, but like holding some sort
1469
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:32.840
of like their arms down and stoicism. Aubrey was like,
1470
01:05:32.860 --> 01:05:37.400
and it felt to me like she wasn't on the
1471
01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:39.599
first pan, but then knew that camera was on her.
1472
01:05:39.739 --> 01:05:40.139
I don't know.
1473
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:41.849
She's, I didn't even notice her.
1474
01:05:41.860 --> 01:05:42.619
We know how I feel about her.
1475
01:05:42.670 --> 01:05:43.449
I didn't even notice her.
1476
01:05:43.730 --> 01:05:45.210
Yeah. I can't not.
1477
01:05:45.329 --> 01:05:47.110
I try not to, but I can't not.
1478
01:05:47.130 --> 01:05:49.190
I did forget to mention before we started this. Hang on.
1479
01:05:49.210 --> 01:05:50.409
What's up?
1480
01:05:51.690 --> 01:05:58.829
So when Dynamite starts. Okay, hang on a second. When
1481
01:05:58.869 --> 01:06:02.039
World's End started. Okay. The first half an hour of
1482
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.519
World Class. I always do that. I always do that, dude.
1483
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:07.000
I know. Always. I'm trying to help you.
1484
01:06:07.300 --> 01:06:09.599
I'm consistent with that shit. I'll give you that.
1485
01:06:09.659 --> 01:06:10.619
You are. You are.
1486
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:11.079
Thank you.
1487
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:11.860
No problem.
1488
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:13.860
So World's End starts at.
1489
01:06:13.900 --> 01:06:14.599
World's Collide.
1490
01:06:14.619 --> 01:06:16.239
I did it again?
1491
01:06:16.260 --> 01:06:16.980
You did.
1492
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:19.599
I wrote it down. I wrote it down. World's End.
1493
01:06:20.300 --> 01:06:23.420
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, Collide.
1494
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:25.019
Do a super chat first. Fuck.
1495
01:06:28.860 --> 01:06:34.630
Oh, God, that's funny. All right, here, we'll go with...
1496
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:37.519
I wasn't prepared to air. We'll go with... I think
1497
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:40.480
there's so many great things happening in AEW, so it
1498
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:41.619
was great to.
1499
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:43.619
Come in and have... Oh, God, that's funny.
1500
01:06:44.019 --> 01:06:47.409
Oh, so we got Regina Sharp for $ 5. Honestly, Aubrey
1501
01:06:47.429 --> 01:06:51.250
being performative feels like the natural for her. Yeah, it
1502
01:06:51.289 --> 01:06:56.269
is her default setting. Default setting has taken the spotlight. Yeah,
1503
01:06:56.329 --> 01:06:57.900
and I mean, like, it's one of those things where...
1504
01:06:58.449 --> 01:07:01.269
maybe she wasn't in that moment, but like we've said before, it's,
1505
01:07:01.449 --> 01:07:03.150
she's done it so often. You just kind of see
1506
01:07:03.170 --> 01:07:05.139
it with, but yeah, worlds collide. It started.
1507
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:07.960
I wrote down his time. All right. Yeah. So it
1508
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:10.980
starts at top of the hour for me. What's six o'clock.
1509
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:15.539
So at six 30, they were at 35,000 viewers on
1510
01:07:15.579 --> 01:07:19.230
YouTube on the Lucha channel. They were at 26. Okay.
1511
01:07:21.670 --> 01:07:27.380
At quarter to the hour. It's 41,000 on YouTube on
1512
01:07:27.610 --> 01:07:33.780
WWE and 33,000 and then jumped to 34,000 on the Lucha. Okay.
1513
01:07:34.179 --> 01:07:39.360
At the top of the hour, Dynamite starts on the
1514
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:44.929
WWE channel. They're at 48,000 and it stayed at 48,000
1515
01:07:44.929 --> 01:07:47.329
pretty much for the first half an hour of Dynamite.
1516
01:07:47.949 --> 01:07:52.539
The Lucha channel at the top of the hours at 55,000,
1517
01:07:52.539 --> 01:07:55.809
they consistently go up slowly throughout the rest of the night.
1518
01:07:57.610 --> 01:08:00.010
The WWE channel, like I said, it levels off between
1519
01:08:00.010 --> 01:08:03.849
40 and 45 at the top of the hour. After
1520
01:08:03.869 --> 01:08:07.340
the half an hour passes, it goes up to 49
1521
01:08:07.340 --> 01:08:09.719
to 50 and it goes up shortly after that. So
1522
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:12.159
people tuned in to the first half an hour of
1523
01:08:12.219 --> 01:08:14.099
dynamite to see what was going on. And then they
1524
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:16.039
went over to worlds collide. And I got it right
1525
01:08:16.060 --> 01:08:16.380
that time.
1526
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:18.520
Yeah, you did. But the thing is too, is with
1527
01:08:18.579 --> 01:08:24.529
that many people, even if all 50,000 of those people
1528
01:08:24.590 --> 01:08:29.489
are going to watch Dynamite, that's not counter-programming. And that's
1529
01:08:29.529 --> 01:08:32.380
why I said before, people are like, they shouldn't air it.
1530
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:38.680
Brian Alvarez, nobody in WWE wants them to air it
1531
01:08:38.699 --> 01:08:41.899
against it, was what he said. I responded to that
1532
01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:45.729
tweet and retweeted saying, no, nobody in WWE is who
1533
01:08:45.770 --> 01:08:49.050
you talked to. Because I'm sorry, it wasn't.
1534
01:08:49.390 --> 01:08:51.149
Because those live numbers are nothing.
1535
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:51.899
Right.
1536
01:08:51.909 --> 01:08:55.359
I look at them now, different story, but yeah.
1537
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:57.970
Because when they air a live show, like when they're
1538
01:08:58.029 --> 01:09:03.250
airing even just the weekly, show of... of AAA. Like
1539
01:09:03.310 --> 01:09:06.149
it gets like over a hundred thousand, 200,000. And then
1540
01:09:06.270 --> 01:09:08.649
obviously when it's the pay-per-views, they're up way higher with it.
1541
01:09:09.069 --> 01:09:11.109
This was, this was a tape show. Like I said,
1542
01:09:11.149 --> 01:09:13.329
this was, they were airing it cause they needed to
1543
01:09:13.510 --> 01:09:15.649
air it somewhere too. Cause they taped it. But again,
1544
01:09:15.689 --> 01:09:16.949
like this is more, I feel like this is more
1545
01:09:16.979 --> 01:09:19.340
like a, an attempted kind of like pilot to show
1546
01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:21.939
our product and that sort of thing. And I don't know.
1547
01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:24.100
I just feel like again, and that's what happens with
1548
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:27.689
the IWC and the real, like the tribalists, they need
1549
01:09:27.729 --> 01:09:30.609
it to be competition. They need WWE bad. Like that's
1550
01:09:30.649 --> 01:09:32.609
how they want to feel. And that's just pretty much
1551
01:09:32.670 --> 01:09:33.909
one exactly. Like we thought it would.
1552
01:09:33.949 --> 01:09:35.300
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1553
01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:36.199
Exactly. Yeah. You're right.
1554
01:09:36.220 --> 01:09:38.119
That's exactly what we said was going to happen with it.
1555
01:09:38.220 --> 01:09:39.859
Leveled right off at the top of the hour and
1556
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:41.960
it didn't move for, it didn't move for half an hour.
1557
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.510
I watched it every fifth. I was checking it. It
1558
01:09:44.569 --> 01:09:46.489
didn't move for the first half hour after that started
1559
01:09:46.510 --> 01:09:47.090
shooting back up.
1560
01:09:47.829 --> 01:09:50.489
Yeah and again like that's because i mean obviously i
1561
01:09:50.529 --> 01:09:55.210
think most people that weren't super aw fans they probably
1562
01:09:55.250 --> 01:09:57.609
just wanted to see this and you know pay their
1563
01:09:57.630 --> 01:09:59.069
respects and go back.
1564
01:09:59.010 --> 01:10:03.020
So between between the two companies at half past the
1565
01:10:03.060 --> 01:10:04.880
hour after a half hour dynamite you had 57 000
1566
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:06.579
on the lucha channel and 50 000 on okay wwe
1567
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:12.159
That's a hundred thousand people.
1568
01:10:12.779 --> 01:10:13.039
Right.
1569
01:10:13.079 --> 01:10:14.779
It's not going to make it. No.
1570
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:15.300
It's not.
1571
01:10:15.380 --> 01:10:18.399
Those people aren't going to be watching dynamite. Sorry. Right.
1572
01:10:18.420 --> 01:10:20.300
I'll say, I'll say most of the, at least all
1573
01:10:20.340 --> 01:10:23.340
that fifties, whatever thousand on the Lucha channel, those people
1574
01:10:23.380 --> 01:10:26.529
probably weren't watching dynamite one way or the other. Right.
1575
01:10:27.090 --> 01:10:30.710
So yeah, that people watching on the WWE channel, there's
1576
01:10:30.729 --> 01:10:33.069
a percentage of them that we're going to probably watch
1577
01:10:33.149 --> 01:10:35.930
over to dynamite, but not it's, it wasn't as big
1578
01:10:36.010 --> 01:10:37.789
as people were trying to make it out to be.
1579
01:10:37.789 --> 01:10:38.770
It wasn't that big of a deal.
1580
01:10:38.829 --> 01:10:39.430
No, no, no, no.
1581
01:10:39.470 --> 01:10:40.649
Yeah, it really wasn't.
1582
01:10:40.670 --> 01:10:42.489
If I would have came to you and said the
1583
01:10:42.529 --> 01:10:45.340
first half an hour was 1.2 million watching live on
1584
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:47.500
each different story, but that wasn't even close.
1585
01:10:47.939 --> 01:10:50.420
I would even say 500,000. I'd have been like, that's
1586
01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:52.520
a big number, but as of now.
1587
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:54.899
Yeah, now their numbers are through the roof, but during
1588
01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.319
the live broadcast, there was nothing. It was nothing. Right.
1589
01:10:57.359 --> 01:10:59.770
It's over 24 hours removed. Yeah, no, for sure.
1590
01:10:59.989 --> 01:11:00.189
Yeah.
1591
01:11:00.310 --> 01:11:02.050
And that's, and that's what you said for the beginning.
1592
01:11:02.069 --> 01:11:07.689
Like it's, it's, youtube versus live television it's not counter
1593
01:11:07.750 --> 01:11:11.000
programming it's not the same thing no it's just not
1594
01:11:11.699 --> 01:11:15.460
um and and then i don't know i get having
1595
01:11:15.619 --> 01:11:18.680
mox start the show off with the match but did
1596
01:11:18.699 --> 01:11:23.449
it really need to be again orange cassidy no bless there.
1597
01:11:23.350 --> 01:11:27.770
Should have been three matches on this whole show there
1598
01:11:27.789 --> 01:11:30.010
should have been a moxley match but not against cassidy
1599
01:11:30.550 --> 01:11:32.149
There should have been a Death Riders match with the
1600
01:11:32.189 --> 01:11:34.250
guys and there should have been a Maria Schaefer match.
1601
01:11:34.270 --> 01:11:36.449
That should have been it for the matches. The rest
1602
01:11:36.529 --> 01:11:40.949
of the show should have been commentary from people that
1603
01:11:41.050 --> 01:11:45.199
knew him. We'll get to when Brian comes out here
1604
01:11:45.220 --> 01:11:48.279
in a little bit. Should have been sitting there with
1605
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:52.680
Moxley reminiscing about him and showing a match of his.
1606
01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:55.399
There should have been highlights of his matches, much like
1607
01:11:55.420 --> 01:11:58.350
the Benoit thing was. Do you remember how he did that?
1608
01:11:58.409 --> 01:11:58.590
Yeah.
1609
01:11:58.949 --> 01:12:00.529
They were live matches, I don't think.
1610
01:12:00.550 --> 01:12:00.829
Were they?
1611
01:12:01.010 --> 01:12:01.149
No.
1612
01:12:01.449 --> 01:12:03.640
I don't believe so. I don't believe in that one.
1613
01:12:04.100 --> 01:12:05.840
And AEW is not going to do that. Just have
1614
01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:08.109
three matches. Just have the three with the Death Riders.
1615
01:12:08.149 --> 01:12:10.800
That was his group. Just have those three. And that
1616
01:12:10.819 --> 01:12:11.840
would have been it. And it has the rest of
1617
01:12:11.859 --> 01:12:13.439
the fill in time with people talking.
1618
01:12:13.890 --> 01:12:14.149
Yeah.
1619
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:16.319
Instead of having those cutaways where they were kept doing,
1620
01:12:16.850 --> 01:12:18.270
have them come out live and do it.
1621
01:12:18.649 --> 01:12:21.149
There you go. Yeah. That's probably what, yeah. I also,
1622
01:12:21.369 --> 01:12:24.390
I also understood having Osprey on the card. Cause he's
1623
01:12:24.430 --> 01:12:26.329
also from England and that sort of thing.
1624
01:12:26.409 --> 01:12:27.050
I'm okay with that.
1625
01:12:27.210 --> 01:12:27.649
I'm going to get that.
1626
01:12:27.850 --> 01:12:29.810
But like, we didn't need.
1627
01:12:29.630 --> 01:12:32.170
The elite wrestling on this show.
1628
01:12:32.609 --> 01:12:35.409
Yeah. No, the elite wrestling on the show felt to
1629
01:12:35.470 --> 01:12:39.390
me like them being, Again, performative. Because one of the
1630
01:12:39.430 --> 01:12:42.010
bucks I felt like was fake crying. Because they want
1631
01:12:42.029 --> 01:12:44.109
to be seen as every man. Oh, we're part of
1632
01:12:44.140 --> 01:12:47.939
the team. Just didn't need it. 100%.
1633
01:12:48.420 --> 01:12:52.560
Callbacks. I want to see Pac's first match in AEW.
1634
01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:54.869
Show me that all again. Show me what happened when
1635
01:12:54.909 --> 01:12:57.529
this happened. Show me when the Death Riders got him.
1636
01:12:57.609 --> 01:13:00.949
The whole progression of his career in AEW. Because according
1637
01:13:00.970 --> 01:13:02.890
to that letter, being in AEW was the best part
1638
01:13:02.909 --> 01:13:03.390
of his life.
1639
01:13:03.489 --> 01:13:04.109
So, yes.
1640
01:13:04.550 --> 01:13:05.670
And show that match.
1641
01:13:05.829 --> 01:13:08.260
Like, I know there was comedy to it, but it
1642
01:13:08.300 --> 01:13:10.680
was still a good work. Because his name and his
1643
01:13:10.739 --> 01:13:13.420
nickname in WWE is the man that Gravity forgot. And
1644
01:13:13.460 --> 01:13:16.979
then he wrestled the wrestler Gravity once. And, like, Gravity
1645
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:18.479
was like, I don't know you. I forget you. Like,
1646
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:20.920
that was... Show stuff like that. Yeah, his first match.
1647
01:13:22.100 --> 01:13:24.039
He won a singles title at one point, right? He
1648
01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:26.430
won one of those singles titles, I feel like, maybe.
1649
01:13:26.729 --> 01:13:28.390
Or if not, he won the trios. Whatever.
1650
01:13:28.609 --> 01:13:30.670
Show a match where he wins his first title in
1651
01:13:30.710 --> 01:13:32.689
an AEW. Yeah, show his first match.
1652
01:13:32.970 --> 01:13:35.590
Show the title. Honestly, if they wanted to, I don't
1653
01:13:35.609 --> 01:13:39.109
know if they should have, but show that the pay-per-view match. Like, yeah,
1654
01:13:39.130 --> 01:13:41.529
you just didn't. You didn't need all this. And honestly,
1655
01:13:41.550 --> 01:13:44.329
the matches could have been quicker. This match went forever. Granted,
1656
01:13:44.390 --> 01:13:45.869
it's Cassidy.
1657
01:13:46.210 --> 01:13:48.529
Moxley should have never fought Cassidy. What they should have
1658
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:52.500
done was show him the Pac-Cassidy match. Because that was
1659
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:53.180
actually funny.
1660
01:13:54.039 --> 01:13:54.659
Oh, yeah.
1661
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:56.739
OC was trying to do his shit and Pac wouldn't
1662
01:13:56.779 --> 01:13:58.300
take it. That was one of the first times we
1663
01:13:58.359 --> 01:13:59.899
saw that from somebody. That was cool.
1664
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:01.739
Yeah, right.
1665
01:14:01.859 --> 01:14:04.600
Having this was... counterproductive for me.
1666
01:14:04.939 --> 01:14:07.319
And Shivani can't be like, oh, well, these guys have
1667
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:10.689
the most, they're number one and number two in most
1668
01:14:10.739 --> 01:14:14.270
singles wins in AEW. Like that's, Pappy Cassidy is the
1669
01:14:14.329 --> 01:14:17.510
number two winner of singles matches in your company. It's
1670
01:14:17.590 --> 01:14:21.329
not the flex you think it is. Bruh. I'm sorry.
1671
01:14:21.449 --> 01:14:23.770
I didn't need to say. Moxley wrestling is fine. Just
1672
01:14:23.829 --> 01:14:25.270
put him against somebody that would have been.
1673
01:14:26.029 --> 01:14:27.689
He was the leader of the group they've been in
1674
01:14:27.729 --> 01:14:29.229
for the last two years.
1675
01:14:29.390 --> 01:14:31.649
Again, three matches only would have been fine with me
1676
01:14:31.670 --> 01:14:34.180
and the rest should have been filler with people. telling
1677
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:35.899
their stories and showing their matches.
1678
01:14:36.609 --> 01:14:36.810
Yep.
1679
01:14:36.869 --> 01:14:38.699
Especially this guy. Yep.
1680
01:14:39.750 --> 01:14:41.689
Especially, Daniel, this one.
1681
01:14:41.850 --> 01:14:44.430
Especially this guy. Because there's no fucking way this dude
1682
01:14:44.449 --> 01:14:45.210
should have been in the ring.
1683
01:14:45.430 --> 01:14:47.399
No. And we'll get to it when we get into
1684
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:50.140
his match. This part was fine for Jansen. Coming out,
1685
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:55.539
hugging Moxley. Because remember, too, it's not just the Death Riders.
1686
01:14:55.600 --> 01:15:00.039
It was the Blackpool Combat Club. Pac was in that, too.
1687
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:02.149
He was in that where they did the madness picture
1688
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:06.270
with William Regal and stuff. That was fine. And even,
1689
01:15:06.630 --> 01:15:09.359
I'll just say it now, because he wrestles later. having
1690
01:15:09.380 --> 01:15:12.680
him like come out and like help them with the finish.
1691
01:15:12.699 --> 01:15:16.439
Like he could deliver the knee, like hit an offensive move. Fine.
1692
01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:19.260
The last thing I ever want to see is Brian
1693
01:15:19.300 --> 01:15:22.060
Daniels to take another fucking bump. Like the guy can't
1694
01:15:22.199 --> 01:15:26.000
travel to do commentary because he's in pain. I know
1695
01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:28.800
he wants to pay tribute to his friend. There was
1696
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:30.739
the tribute. You didn't need to wrestle.
1697
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:33.470
Exactly. That's why he should have, this part should have
1698
01:15:33.510 --> 01:15:36.069
happened like it did. And then they have it. Then they,
1699
01:15:36.340 --> 01:15:38.220
Give them a couple chairs. They sit down. They show
1700
01:15:38.260 --> 01:15:39.020
a Pac match.
1701
01:15:39.579 --> 01:15:39.819
Yeah.
1702
01:15:39.859 --> 01:15:41.899
And they cry it out and hug, whatever. It's fine.
1703
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:43.500
Yeah, the two of them. Yeah, you know what? Having
1704
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:45.340
them sit down in the ring and talk about Pac
1705
01:15:45.579 --> 01:15:47.840
for 10 minutes would have been better than having.
1706
01:15:47.579 --> 01:15:50.119
The Elite match, 100%. Because they do.
1707
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:50.840
They hug it out.
1708
01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:53.359
It's a nice moment. Like, the fans kind of need.
1709
01:15:53.699 --> 01:15:56.199
And that's the thing. The fans need this kind of stuff.
1710
01:15:56.579 --> 01:15:58.859
I didn't need. Speaking of fans, I didn't need the
1711
01:15:58.899 --> 01:16:01.279
fans yelling, holy shit, during this stupid thing.
1712
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:03.300
Yeah, that was really weird.
1713
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.199
Just standing there looking at you in the crowd. Holy shit.
1714
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:08.579
I'm like, come on. That's stupid.
1715
01:16:08.939 --> 01:16:12.420
Stupid. Yeah, no. But that's, I mean, unfortunately, that's the
1716
01:16:12.460 --> 01:16:14.920
sickos a lot of times. Yeah. And even too, like
1717
01:16:14.979 --> 01:16:17.659
Tony put it, justified this is awesome chance. Like, we
1718
01:16:17.699 --> 01:16:21.460
don't need that tweet during the night. Yeah, no. And again,
1719
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:23.560
that's where it feels like some of this shit becomes
1720
01:16:23.659 --> 01:16:25.539
self-serving to me. And I said that before.
1721
01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:27.539
Yes, because they had their chance to be human.
1722
01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:30.319
Yeah. Yeah. And I, and I, and I, I said
1723
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:32.220
it before, I said it when the whole butcher thing
1724
01:16:32.260 --> 01:16:34.460
happened that I, like I said, I lived in LA
1725
01:16:34.500 --> 01:16:38.170
for long enough where certain celebrities would die. People would,
1726
01:16:38.449 --> 01:16:40.350
and even I'm sure it impacted them to a point,
1727
01:16:40.390 --> 01:16:43.109
but people would like play up on that so much more.
1728
01:16:43.130 --> 01:16:45.989
Like I can remember kids that weren't even alive when
1729
01:16:46.050 --> 01:16:49.079
Whitney Houston was popular. And when she died, they were like,
1730
01:16:49.260 --> 01:16:50.840
Oh my God, it's the worst thing ever. I'm like,
1731
01:16:50.859 --> 01:16:53.819
you would never even seen the bodyguard. Like, you don't know, like,
1732
01:16:54.619 --> 01:16:56.460
you can let it affect you but not as because
1733
01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:58.720
they want it to be about them and that's where
1734
01:16:58.739 --> 01:17:01.159
i felt like some of that was happening with it
1735
01:17:01.220 --> 01:17:03.770
but that's unfortunately what people do a lot of times
1736
01:17:03.850 --> 01:17:05.770
and even if they weren't it comes across that way
1737
01:17:05.810 --> 01:17:07.729
with it i mean i awful said it too the
1738
01:17:07.750 --> 01:17:08.789
other time just it's i.
1739
01:17:08.789 --> 01:17:11.050
Don't know i was also hard to ignore the fact
1740
01:17:11.090 --> 01:17:12.550
that last time they were in the ring together he
1741
01:17:12.750 --> 01:17:13.970
tried killing him right.
1742
01:17:13.770 --> 01:17:16.109
I was gonna say yeah he tried to put the
1743
01:17:16.310 --> 01:17:17.670
back over his head you.
1744
01:17:17.590 --> 01:17:19.369
Kind of let that slide because you know.
1745
01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:24.979
Circumstances but right but still it's it's it's hard to
1746
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:27.239
let that one slide it's not like.
1747
01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:29.020
Came to my mind as i'm watching i'm like didn't
1748
01:17:29.050 --> 01:17:30.850
he try to kill him with a paper right well it's.
1749
01:17:30.750 --> 01:17:32.590
Not like he like it's not like he like kicked
1750
01:17:32.609 --> 01:17:34.850
him in the groin and stabbed him in the back
1751
01:17:35.390 --> 01:17:40.029
plastic bag over his head oh god yeah no that
1752
01:17:40.069 --> 01:17:42.340
really did happen uh and then it starts with these
1753
01:17:42.380 --> 01:17:43.899
things in the back where they're.
1754
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:46.079
And these things in the back shouldn't have happened these
1755
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:47.680
things in the back i agree on stage.
1756
01:17:47.979 --> 01:17:50.789
I agree i agree and i I do think that
1757
01:17:50.890 --> 01:17:52.489
some of them maybe needed to be in the back
1758
01:17:52.510 --> 01:17:55.050
because maybe the guy like if someone who's a really
1759
01:17:55.109 --> 01:17:57.609
good friend with him maybe couldn't have delivered it live
1760
01:17:57.630 --> 01:18:00.779
because it would have been too emotional but I think
1761
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:02.939
you're absolutely right they should have at least done most
1762
01:18:02.979 --> 01:18:06.140
of them that way you know I also feel like
1763
01:18:07.460 --> 01:18:10.729
I understand like it's crying's got to be part of
1764
01:18:10.810 --> 01:18:12.710
it but also like I don't know I feel like
1765
01:18:12.729 --> 01:18:14.310
some people were crying a bit too hard just because
1766
01:18:14.329 --> 01:18:15.649
I don't want to see I don't know I just.
1767
01:18:15.890 --> 01:18:19.600
I can't say I'm not going to I'm not going
1768
01:18:19.619 --> 01:18:22.399
to do that because I don't know. I wasn't friends
1769
01:18:22.420 --> 01:18:24.779
with him, so I don't... Right. I could see where
1770
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:26.960
if you are friends, it would be tough. Yeah. The
1771
01:18:26.979 --> 01:18:28.979
whole night was tough for everybody. I can understand that.
1772
01:18:29.079 --> 01:18:29.680
Absolutely.
1773
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.220
No, for sure. Especially with the circumstances of it.
1774
01:18:32.579 --> 01:18:34.239
And it's not like, you know, it wasn't like he
1775
01:18:34.260 --> 01:18:36.779
was sick and you were prepared for it.
1776
01:18:36.779 --> 01:18:38.760
When someone dies suddenly, it's rough.
1777
01:18:39.180 --> 01:18:41.760
But then, yeah. Then they have this match here that
1778
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:48.699
was just wholly unnecessary. You know, of having... the elite
1779
01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:52.100
take on four random members of the Callis family. Was
1780
01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:54.880
it like Rocky Romero, Kyle Fletcher?
1781
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:57.479
Rocky Romero took everything at the end.
1782
01:18:57.500 --> 01:18:58.920
Yeah, Rocky.
1783
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:00.960
I mean, when the match started, I was like, well,
1784
01:19:00.979 --> 01:19:02.439
he's the one taking the pins and stuff.
1785
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:05.520
Yeah, taking the pin and taking every move possible.
1786
01:19:05.979 --> 01:19:08.880
Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, it was Trent Barretta, Rocky Romero,
1787
01:19:08.899 --> 01:19:09.460
Kevin Knight.
1788
01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:11.149
Oh, it was Trent Barretta taking everything at the end.
1789
01:19:11.159 --> 01:19:11.560
I'm sorry.
1790
01:19:11.979 --> 01:19:13.140
Oh, was it? Okay.
1791
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:14.960
I was one of them.
1792
01:19:15.140 --> 01:19:17.319
Well, last time it was– yeah, last time it was
1793
01:19:17.340 --> 01:19:22.409
Rocky Romero when he took all the knees and all
1794
01:19:22.430 --> 01:19:25.329
the finishes. And, I mean, I guess there's like that
1795
01:19:25.390 --> 01:19:27.970
point of like, well, the elite is the– They were
1796
01:19:27.989 --> 01:19:29.409
the big group in the company.
1797
01:19:29.930 --> 01:19:33.850
I don't know. They didn't need to be on this card.
1798
01:19:33.899 --> 01:19:36.500
I'll say it again. Unless you were in the Death Riders,
1799
01:19:37.420 --> 01:19:40.619
you shouldn't have been in the match at all during
1800
01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:42.060
this show. It should never have happened.
1801
01:19:42.489 --> 01:19:45.539
No, like, yeah, you're right. It should have been the
1802
01:19:45.619 --> 01:19:48.680
Moxley match, the rest of the Death Riders, the Marina
1803
01:19:48.699 --> 01:19:51.079
Shafir in a singles match, maybe a tag because it
1804
01:19:51.100 --> 01:19:52.819
might have been hard for her. And then if you
1805
01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:56.119
wanted to have Ospreay on the card, fine. Yeah, throw
1806
01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:56.819
him in.
1807
01:19:56.600 --> 01:19:57.960
The middle of all that.
1808
01:19:58.100 --> 01:19:58.380
Yeah.
1809
01:19:58.699 --> 01:20:00.039
And then end the show with the way they ended
1810
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:00.460
the show.
1811
01:20:00.739 --> 01:20:01.899
Yeah, exactly.
1812
01:20:01.939 --> 01:20:05.920
But having, yeah, this match here was just, yeah, no,
1813
01:20:05.939 --> 01:20:06.600
this bothered me.
1814
01:20:06.899 --> 01:20:08.779
The matches actually were the worst part of the show.
1815
01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:11.390
Yeah. Bro, you're right. Which wasn't one I.
1816
01:20:11.369 --> 01:20:12.710
Was interested in because I didn't care.
1817
01:20:13.149 --> 01:20:13.649
Yeah, exactly.
1818
01:20:13.670 --> 01:20:14.789
I didn't come to watch the matches.
1819
01:20:15.050 --> 01:20:15.270
Yeah.
1820
01:20:15.590 --> 01:20:15.770
Yep.
1821
01:20:16.229 --> 01:20:19.560
Yeah, but you're right. Look at that bottom left picture, Rocky.
1822
01:20:20.189 --> 01:20:22.239
Brett had taken it. But also in that bottom left picture,
1823
01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:24.199
what pose is Aubrey hitting?
1824
01:20:24.260 --> 01:20:25.880
Why is your sexy ass pose?
1825
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:29.399
And even like the way she holds up their hands
1826
01:20:29.420 --> 01:20:31.600
so she can like hit the hip pose out. Yeah.
1827
01:20:31.619 --> 01:20:32.800
She throws her ass out there. Yeah.
1828
01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:35.399
She's always got to, it's just giving you the goods.
1829
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:36.779
She's giving you the goods.
1830
01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:38.239
No, she's giving you the bad.
1831
01:20:38.899 --> 01:20:40.600
Sorry. Sorry.
1832
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:43.930
I was mean. She blocked me on Twitter. I don't know.
1833
01:20:43.949 --> 01:20:46.109
Hey, whatever. As long as you give her the horse
1834
01:20:46.149 --> 01:20:49.329
feed bag, you're fine.
1835
01:20:49.670 --> 01:20:54.119
Watch out. She might circle the wagons. Okay. Yeah, I mean,
1836
01:20:54.140 --> 01:20:58.380
you had Cash Wheeler talking here. You know, these things
1837
01:20:58.420 --> 01:21:00.399
are always going to be hard to watch. Like, you know,
1838
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:02.220
you got to do them. I get it.
1839
01:21:02.260 --> 01:21:04.500
But yeah, they definitely could have been more in front
1840
01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:04.939
of the crowd.
1841
01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:06.760
Honestly, you probably could have done it where instead of
1842
01:21:06.779 --> 01:21:08.260
having like a single person out there.
1843
01:21:08.619 --> 01:21:11.409
Yeah, double or triple up.
1844
01:21:11.430 --> 01:21:13.069
Yeah, have them talk.
1845
01:21:13.850 --> 01:21:16.510
Have a round table discussion for like 15 minute segments.
1846
01:21:17.020 --> 01:21:19.050
And what they remembered, just talk to each other like
1847
01:21:19.109 --> 01:21:19.750
they're buddies.
1848
01:21:19.770 --> 01:21:20.130
That's all.
1849
01:21:20.329 --> 01:21:20.890
Yeah.
1850
01:21:21.189 --> 01:21:22.930
No, that would, yeah, that would have been, yeah. Instead
1851
01:21:22.970 --> 01:21:24.430
of having a single, but yeah, that would be great.
1852
01:21:24.689 --> 01:21:26.569
I mean, it would have been, it would have been,
1853
01:21:26.649 --> 01:21:28.979
it would have felt more real. Like, I don't know.
1854
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:31.079
But then, yeah, like you said, Renee.
1855
01:21:31.100 --> 01:21:33.300
It would have been a lot more sincere if you
1856
01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:36.239
just had these guys out there talking like people. Yeah.
1857
01:21:36.300 --> 01:21:38.640
About their friend. Yeah.
1858
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:39.319
Yeah.
1859
01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:41.279
No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right.
1860
01:21:42.550 --> 01:21:44.569
And it's one of those things too, where it just, yeah,
1861
01:21:44.590 --> 01:21:47.380
it comes across more real and, it's not like the
1862
01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:50.279
benoit situation where like if you remember watching that episode
1863
01:21:50.300 --> 01:21:53.180
like william regal knew what had happened like new shit
1864
01:21:53.220 --> 01:21:55.159
wasn't right and he was weird about it but like
1865
01:21:55.979 --> 01:21:57.720
it's just the single people doing it they're just gonna
1866
01:21:57.739 --> 01:21:59.300
sit there and cry with it he could have at
1867
01:21:59.319 --> 01:22:01.399
least had the conversations because then you could also like
1868
01:22:02.250 --> 01:22:05.489
You make each other laugh telling stories about things. That's it.
1869
01:22:05.550 --> 01:22:07.609
You would laugh and.
1870
01:22:07.250 --> 01:22:09.520
Cry at the same time. Right. Exactly. Yeah.
1871
01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:11.939
And that's more real. Yeah.
1872
01:22:12.020 --> 01:22:15.039
I mean, my dad, we had to have two funerals
1873
01:22:15.100 --> 01:22:17.239
for him because he had a family in New Jersey
1874
01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:19.850
and the soccer in his high school is here. Like,
1875
01:22:20.189 --> 01:22:22.149
and at both of them, like, yeah, we were crying
1876
01:22:22.189 --> 01:22:24.149
and sad about, but we were laughing with each other
1877
01:22:24.550 --> 01:22:27.050
because yes, you do have to like move forward and
1878
01:22:27.109 --> 01:22:28.210
continue with your life.
1879
01:22:28.590 --> 01:22:30.649
Yeah. Cause you remember a certain thing. You remember when,
1880
01:22:30.670 --> 01:22:33.609
you remember when Joe did this and we all, we
1881
01:22:33.989 --> 01:22:35.819
were golfing and he hit the ball up in the
1882
01:22:35.859 --> 01:22:37.600
air and he hit himself in the balls with his club.
1883
01:22:38.020 --> 01:22:38.840
Oh God. Yeah.
1884
01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:39.460
Yeah.
1885
01:22:39.579 --> 01:22:42.960
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Or that, or, or that, or that,
1886
01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:45.239
you know, harmless prank that he pulled on the three
1887
01:22:45.260 --> 01:22:47.640
of us, you know, where, We got in the car
1888
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:48.859
and the steering wheel was missing.
1889
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:52.060
They can tell road stories with Pac. That would have
1890
01:22:52.090 --> 01:22:52.859
been awesome.
1891
01:22:53.090 --> 01:22:55.229
Yeah, that would have been way better. Yeah, I didn't
1892
01:22:55.250 --> 01:22:56.750
even think about it that way with it, but you're
1893
01:22:57.130 --> 01:23:00.930
absolutely right. But yeah, then Renee comes out and reads
1894
01:23:00.989 --> 01:23:03.510
the family letter and stuff. And I did like, I
1895
01:23:03.550 --> 01:23:05.590
liked that she had the Death Rider patch on. I
1896
01:23:05.630 --> 01:23:06.310
did like that.
1897
01:23:06.729 --> 01:23:07.529
You know what I mean?
1898
01:23:07.550 --> 01:23:08.539
Because that was the tribute with it.
1899
01:23:08.569 --> 01:23:09.289
But yeah, I don't know.
1900
01:23:09.369 --> 01:23:12.069
I did not like this letter.
1901
01:23:12.909 --> 01:23:15.779
Yeah, I didn't either. I really didn't.
1902
01:23:16.699 --> 01:23:19.300
I i yeah i could have done without this and.
1903
01:23:19.220 --> 01:23:22.180
Honestly how about halfway through it it felt like she
1904
01:23:22.220 --> 01:23:24.270
didn't like the letter like at one point she like
1905
01:23:24.310 --> 01:23:26.060
looks over at the announce i think she looked over
1906
01:23:26.090 --> 01:23:28.130
at shivani at the table like the fuck am i
1907
01:23:28.170 --> 01:23:29.250
reading dude i don't.
1908
01:23:29.149 --> 01:23:34.630
Know because all of a sudden yeah it went it's
1909
01:23:34.649 --> 01:23:37.750
going they're reading it she's crying it's fine but then
1910
01:23:37.770 --> 01:23:40.069
all of a sudden it became and tony khan's the
1911
01:23:40.109 --> 01:23:43.239
best person in the world He's so good. And that's
1912
01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:45.340
the part where I was like, oh, Jesus.
1913
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:48.659
Yep. I mean, I talked about it. I talked about
1914
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:51.659
it at the Rebel episode thing of like, I know
1915
01:23:51.699 --> 01:23:54.619
that he just, when they were doing that video package,
1916
01:23:54.699 --> 01:23:56.829
he didn't need to tell you that he's donating the
1917
01:23:56.890 --> 01:23:59.210
money to the ALS.
1918
01:23:59.250 --> 01:24:00.949
Like, you can just say it. You can have somebody
1919
01:24:01.010 --> 01:24:01.529
else say it.
1920
01:24:01.590 --> 01:24:05.529
You know what I mean? Same with like the whole $ 100, 000
1921
01:24:04.850 --> 01:24:07.560
donation thing. Like, I don't know.
1922
01:24:07.619 --> 01:24:09.970
All I was needing to hear was, The family would
1923
01:24:09.989 --> 01:24:13.220
like to thank Tony Khan for his time. That's all
1924
01:24:13.229 --> 01:24:13.689
you had to do.
1925
01:24:14.810 --> 01:24:17.819
Yeah. I mean, it's just like, how many times did
1926
01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:21.340
we hear, like, when Jake the Snake was still employed
1927
01:24:21.380 --> 01:24:23.819
by him? Like, ah, he's the best boss I've ever had. Like,
1928
01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:28.500
nobody says that in the real world. You only say
1929
01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:31.760
that so your boss hears it. Like, it's just the truth.
1930
01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:34.640
I didn't need this part, but. Nope.
1931
01:24:35.109 --> 01:24:37.090
Nope, you're right. And like I said, I don't think
1932
01:24:37.229 --> 01:24:38.930
she liked it either. There was that weird point.
1933
01:24:38.949 --> 01:24:40.430
Didn't seem like it. Yeah.
1934
01:24:40.909 --> 01:24:42.989
It seemed like starting was okay, and then at one
1935
01:24:43.029 --> 01:24:45.859
point she just looks over like, uh, what am I
1936
01:24:45.859 --> 01:24:46.100
doing here?
1937
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:48.399
Yeah, because in the beginning she's actually emotional, and she's
1938
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:51.479
looking at the letter going, I gotta read this?
1939
01:24:51.699 --> 01:24:53.239
Yeah, yeah.
1940
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:53.739
Seemed off.
1941
01:24:53.859 --> 01:24:58.060
I agree. Yeah, it did. And then you had Swerve
1942
01:24:58.100 --> 01:25:00.350
and the New Day come out and just cry in
1943
01:25:00.390 --> 01:25:02.430
the ring. Like, what? I... Huh? Huh?
1944
01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:04.699
I mean, nobody gave a speech.
1945
01:25:04.939 --> 01:25:06.619
They could have had the four of them have a
1946
01:25:06.779 --> 01:25:08.340
fun little conversation or something.
1947
01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:13.100
Why was this necessary? Why did they need to come out?
1948
01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:16.739
I guess because the Trios titles was the last titles
1949
01:25:16.779 --> 01:25:18.949
that Pac held, I guess?
1950
01:25:19.229 --> 01:25:24.090
I don't know. From what we've known, from what we've seen,
1951
01:25:24.170 --> 01:25:26.770
from what we've heard, from what we've gathered over the
1952
01:25:26.810 --> 01:25:29.789
time we've watched AEW, does Pac seem like the kind
1953
01:25:29.829 --> 01:25:35.449
of guy that would want... This or people laughing and
1954
01:25:35.489 --> 01:25:37.869
having a good time and having fun? What do you think?
1955
01:25:38.890 --> 01:25:44.010
Absolutely the latter. If anything else, that's what the Brits are.
1956
01:25:44.050 --> 01:25:47.300
The British people, the stiff upper lip, keep calm and
1957
01:25:47.340 --> 01:25:51.739
carry on. That's part of what they have to do.
1958
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:54.060
That's how they got through the Blitz and everything. It's
1959
01:25:54.100 --> 01:25:56.880
part of their culture. Shubes and I talk about it
1960
01:25:56.960 --> 01:25:59.319
all the time when we text. It's one of those
1961
01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:05.020
things where this... it's one of those situations where this
1962
01:26:05.060 --> 01:26:08.470
was for the people that are remaining and not for
1963
01:26:08.510 --> 01:26:11.750
the person, you know, like sometimes that's like, if somebody
1964
01:26:11.810 --> 01:26:14.649
dies quickly, it's better for the person passing away. If
1965
01:26:14.689 --> 01:26:16.810
somebody takes, you know, if they get sick and takes
1966
01:26:16.850 --> 01:26:19.289
a long time to die, it's better for the people
1967
01:26:19.329 --> 01:26:21.189
left behind because they have time to process it.
1968
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:24.260
This felt like this was for them and not for him.
1969
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:24.720
Yeah.
1970
01:26:24.819 --> 01:26:25.739
That's a, that's a good way.
1971
01:26:25.979 --> 01:26:28.319
Cause his personality from what we've seen would not have
1972
01:26:28.340 --> 01:26:29.020
liked any of this.
1973
01:26:29.609 --> 01:26:32.109
Yeah no and i mean and um and obviously we
1974
01:26:32.130 --> 01:26:34.329
don't know what he was like backstage everybody says he's
1975
01:26:34.350 --> 01:26:35.489
like the greatest guy with.
1976
01:26:35.489 --> 01:26:38.970
A joker a good time guy yes why do all
1977
01:26:38.989 --> 01:26:39.729
this shit.
1978
01:26:40.069 --> 01:26:42.010
Yeah no like i feel like this would have been
1979
01:26:42.050 --> 01:26:44.810
something we're like you know i think he would have
1980
01:26:44.850 --> 01:26:47.039
wanted people that he would have wanted people to have
1981
01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:49.800
more of a wake than a funeral you know where
1982
01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:52.199
you're yeah like i just we just said having stories
1983
01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:54.689
having stories we told that we don't know about yep
1984
01:26:54.909 --> 01:26:55.949
yes yes.
1985
01:26:55.789 --> 01:26:58.460
Well remember that time pack was on the road in
1986
01:26:58.779 --> 01:27:01.020
uh boise idaho and he jumped out and pissed in
1987
01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:05.140
the road and yeah shit like that they've been great
1988
01:27:05.180 --> 01:27:08.390
you love that stuff not this yeah no you're right
1989
01:27:08.520 --> 01:27:11.329
you're absolutely right yeah no telling stories would have been
1990
01:27:11.350 --> 01:27:13.130
a much better telling.
1991
01:27:12.909 --> 01:27:15.250
Stories like as a group as a trio as.
1992
01:27:15.250 --> 01:27:16.970
A yeah no it would have been a lot better
1993
01:27:16.989 --> 01:27:18.189
this just I don't know.
1994
01:27:18.489 --> 01:27:20.310
And I mean, I get it that you're trying to like,
1995
01:27:20.369 --> 01:27:23.210
like they're trying to process and figure out what's going on.
1996
01:27:23.250 --> 01:27:24.930
And it's a tough, what's a better way to process
1997
01:27:24.970 --> 01:27:25.939
besides humor, dude.
1998
01:27:26.109 --> 01:27:30.760
Exactly. No, it really is. It absolutely is. Like, you know,
1999
01:27:30.819 --> 01:27:33.899
it's not, you've got to be able to like, cause
2000
01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:35.760
it's a way to remember, like, you know, people talk
2001
01:27:35.779 --> 01:27:38.859
about like, you remember the good times, you know, sometimes
2002
01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:41.140
they don't call a funeral, a funeral. It's a celebration
2003
01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:43.859
of life. Like you can't just celebrate life by being sad. Like,
2004
01:27:43.930 --> 01:27:46.729
and I get it that you're sad, but you've got to, Yeah.
2005
01:27:47.149 --> 01:27:50.130
When a comedian dies, do they actually tell jokes and
2006
01:27:50.149 --> 01:27:53.029
roast the guy that died or do they cry? Right.
2007
01:27:53.750 --> 01:27:56.300
Same thing. If the guy backstage is a comedian, bring
2008
01:27:56.340 --> 01:27:57.100
it out. Let's see.
2009
01:27:57.539 --> 01:28:00.239
Tell us something. Yeah. And like, even when you're telling
2010
01:28:00.260 --> 01:28:02.260
the story and laughing, like, like you said, you're going
2011
01:28:02.279 --> 01:28:05.420
to cry with it. You kind of, it's more cathartic
2012
01:28:05.460 --> 01:28:06.220
as opposed to.
2013
01:28:06.260 --> 01:28:08.130
Just being sad about it with it.
2014
01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:12.579
But yes. Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. And then
2015
01:28:13.399 --> 01:28:16.279
Ricochet gave a very long speech here, kind of meandered.
2016
01:28:16.340 --> 01:28:19.239
I don't... I have a hard time listening to him anyway, but.
2017
01:28:19.380 --> 01:28:21.420
Yeah, I mean, he was kind of connected closer to him.
2018
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:23.119
Right, I was going to say, he's... And that was
2019
01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:24.770
why I didn't mind... Like I said, I didn't mind
2020
01:28:24.890 --> 01:28:28.710
Ospreay wrestling because he's English and they've been friends forever. And, like,
2021
01:28:28.789 --> 01:28:31.579
Pac and him, they were on 205 Live together a bunch.
2022
01:28:31.579 --> 01:28:34.039
They wrestled a ton as cruiserweights in WWE.
2023
01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:34.979
Like, that was fun.
2024
01:28:34.979 --> 01:28:38.520
Um but yeah just um but then like this match
2025
01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:42.359
went on for a long time they did it every
2026
01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:46.479
move they know you know um Osprey acted like winning
2027
01:28:46.539 --> 01:28:48.640
it was the greatest moment of his life like he
2028
01:28:48.699 --> 01:28:51.550
celebrated it more than he celebrated winning the goddamn title
2029
01:28:51.970 --> 01:28:52.470
I don't know.
2030
01:28:52.510 --> 01:28:55.949
It's just this is this is one dynamite where I
2031
01:28:56.050 --> 01:28:59.590
actually was going out during the matches yeah no i
2032
01:28:59.689 --> 01:29:01.649
yeah no i'm serious i didn't care about any of
2033
01:29:01.689 --> 01:29:04.130
these no i really didn't they mean nothing to nobody
2034
01:29:04.189 --> 01:29:05.890
i didn't care i wanted to see what was being
2035
01:29:05.930 --> 01:29:06.970
said right no.
2036
01:29:06.989 --> 01:29:08.939
Yeah this is more they were putting on they were
2037
01:29:08.949 --> 01:29:11.579
just putting on the wrestling show like to yeah yeah
2038
01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:13.420
they were they were honoring him with their wrestling which
2039
01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:15.380
i get to a point but also like.
2040
01:29:15.300 --> 01:29:18.579
I think i'm wondering if they thought that doing a
2041
01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:21.279
tribute show with mostly talking and stuff would be insult
2042
01:29:21.300 --> 01:29:24.449
the fans because they paid money and i thought about
2043
01:29:24.470 --> 01:29:26.069
it i think the fans would have liked it more.
2044
01:29:26.420 --> 01:29:28.060
Yeah, and it's one of those things.
2045
01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:30.119
The crowd really didn't know how to react to the matches.
2046
01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:32.960
Yeah, no, they were quiet for a lot of it.
2047
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:34.779
Right. I think it would have been better to have.
2048
01:29:35.270 --> 01:29:35.630
You're right.
2049
01:29:35.949 --> 01:29:37.189
You're right. Yeah, the matches.
2050
01:29:37.710 --> 01:29:38.149
Yeah.
2051
01:29:38.909 --> 01:29:40.369
And it's one of those things, too, where.
2052
01:29:40.770 --> 01:29:43.630
I don't know. I feel like most, especially AEW fans,
2053
01:29:43.670 --> 01:29:46.439
but even wrestling fans in general, like, if you bought
2054
01:29:46.460 --> 01:29:49.840
the ticket weeks ago or days ago or whatever... And
2055
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:51.939
then somebody passes away and you know it's going to
2056
01:29:51.970 --> 01:29:54.949
be a tribute show. You're going into it knowing it's
2057
01:29:54.970 --> 01:29:57.380
going to be a different experience than just a regular
2058
01:29:57.409 --> 01:29:59.380
wrestling show. And they shouldn't worry about it.
2059
01:29:59.380 --> 01:30:00.520
They tried not to do that.
2060
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:00.920
Yeah.
2061
01:30:01.489 --> 01:30:03.369
Having these matches for no reason yes.
2062
01:30:03.229 --> 01:30:04.850
Yep nope you should have had like i said the
2063
01:30:04.909 --> 01:30:06.810
four matches and this like i said you could have
2064
01:30:06.829 --> 01:30:09.489
had this match no problem they shortened like all the
2065
01:30:09.529 --> 01:30:11.840
matches needed to be short and sweet yeah get your
2066
01:30:11.859 --> 01:30:14.100
stuff in get the crowd up hype them up and
2067
01:30:14.140 --> 01:30:15.380
move forward yeah.
2068
01:30:15.140 --> 01:30:17.220
Do the match show me a quick little package on
2069
01:30:17.260 --> 01:30:19.180
pock and then bring the next three four guys in
2070
01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:21.739
to talk about them yeah have the second match do
2071
01:30:21.779 --> 01:30:25.000
the same thing commercial break whatever come back show in
2072
01:30:25.060 --> 01:30:27.739
our video package of pock and have that big video
2073
01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:29.960
package at the end Could have been nice and neat,
2074
01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:32.159
but the matches sucked. Yeah.
2075
01:30:32.300 --> 01:30:33.739
Well, and I mean, it's got to be hard to
2076
01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:34.560
wrestle in this scenario.
2077
01:30:34.579 --> 01:30:36.369
Yes, that's the other thing. Who wants to fucking go
2078
01:30:36.409 --> 01:30:37.989
out there and perform unless you're one of the guys
2079
01:30:38.010 --> 01:30:41.270
that were in this group? Right. Those guys got motivation. Right.
2080
01:30:41.289 --> 01:30:43.850
These guys don't. I can tell. Yeah, exactly. Like, this
2081
01:30:43.909 --> 01:30:46.810
is more of just like... going through the motions because
2082
01:30:46.819 --> 01:30:49.649
we're sad about our buddy, which is, yeah, yeah. And
2083
01:30:49.689 --> 01:30:52.029
that way, yeah, it was just, and I mean, and
2084
01:30:52.329 --> 01:30:54.590
I know some people were like, probably upset about, ah,
2085
01:30:54.810 --> 01:30:56.670
face and heels hugging. Like, I don't mind that way.
2086
01:30:56.689 --> 01:30:58.229
They just, you didn't need to have the matches. Like
2087
01:30:58.289 --> 01:31:01.729
it just, yeah, this could have been a much more, yeah.
2088
01:31:02.210 --> 01:31:05.649
Again, story time with Will Osprey, Ricochet, and Andrade or
2089
01:31:05.689 --> 01:31:07.630
somebody around, that would have been some good stories because
2090
01:31:07.670 --> 01:31:09.329
Ricochet knew Pac like the back of his hand.
2091
01:31:09.710 --> 01:31:10.369
Right, right.
2092
01:31:10.390 --> 01:31:12.949
That would have been awesome. And I hate Ricochet. I
2093
01:31:12.989 --> 01:31:16.289
don't hate, no. I dislike Ricochet, but having him tell
2094
01:31:16.329 --> 01:31:17.329
stories would have been fine.
2095
01:31:17.970 --> 01:31:19.489
I hate him on the mic, but I would have
2096
01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:22.300
liked to hear him telling a story with the group. Yeah. Yes.
2097
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:24.380
Hit the like button, people. Please. Thank you.
2098
01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:27.699
Yes. Please and thank you. Like, subscribe, share. We do
2099
01:31:27.739 --> 01:31:30.340
appreciate all 29 folks that have been in the audience.
2100
01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:32.199
We've kept the audience most of the show.
2101
01:31:32.239 --> 01:31:35.779
We appreciate that. We are happy to have you guys
2102
01:31:35.819 --> 01:31:36.260
here with us.
2103
01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:38.420
We know you can do anything with your Thursday night,
2104
01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:40.439
especially now that we're going up against Thursday night football.
2105
01:31:40.460 --> 01:31:44.939
So I really appreciate everybody hanging out with us. And then, yeah,
2106
01:31:44.979 --> 01:31:46.689
because it went to Ospreay again. Like, you could have
2107
01:31:46.729 --> 01:31:49.710
combined that. Ospreay and Ricochet could have told a story
2108
01:31:49.750 --> 01:31:52.750
together if they needed to wrestle fine, but it just
2109
01:31:52.770 --> 01:31:54.350
didn't seem like they wanted to. Yeah, you kind of
2110
01:31:54.390 --> 01:31:56.750
nailed it where the people that were in his group,
2111
01:31:57.350 --> 01:31:59.909
those folks needed to wrestle, especially, like, the ones that
2112
01:31:59.930 --> 01:32:03.420
have been with him, you know, like Claudio and Mach specifically,
2113
01:32:03.460 --> 01:32:06.020
where they were in the Blackpool Combat Club, which then
2114
01:32:06.060 --> 01:32:08.479
became the Death Riders. You know, they've been in it
2115
01:32:08.619 --> 01:32:10.220
forever with them, so it doesn't.
2116
01:32:10.340 --> 01:32:12.560
Every match not involving the Death Riders should have been
2117
01:32:12.579 --> 01:32:13.979
a sit-down talking segment. Yep.
2118
01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:20.029
Absolutely. Absolutely. And then the next match was the women's
2119
01:32:20.090 --> 01:32:22.409
match where it was Marina Shafir.
2120
01:32:24.590 --> 01:32:27.710
Was it Thunder Rosa and somebody else? I forget who
2121
01:32:27.729 --> 01:32:28.340
the other one was.
2122
01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:34.350
No, Persephone was the opponent, because Persephone was with Britt Baker.
2123
01:32:34.390 --> 01:32:36.170
Hang on, I can pull up here once. What is
2124
01:32:36.189 --> 01:32:40.270
this match here? It was... Oh, Haiyan. Right, I forgot.
2125
01:32:40.989 --> 01:32:43.069
We just met her, so I didn't know her. Yeah,
2126
01:32:43.229 --> 01:32:46.949
it was Marina Shafir, Haiyan, and Thunder Rosa versus Mercedes, Persephone,
2127
01:32:46.989 --> 01:32:47.609
and Britt Baker.
2128
01:32:47.710 --> 01:32:48.390
That's what it was.
2129
01:32:49.729 --> 01:32:53.189
And this was all about Marina, which it should have been. Marina,
2130
01:32:53.310 --> 01:32:55.350
I mean, there's been part... How long have they been
2131
01:32:55.369 --> 01:32:58.170
in this group together with it? This was putting her over...
2132
01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:00.060
And you could tell it was tough on her. She
2133
01:33:00.100 --> 01:33:03.939
was crying, as you would expect. But this was also
2134
01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:06.279
fine in the sense where you could have it. She
2135
01:33:06.300 --> 01:33:08.340
didn't have to wrestle a singles match. She was in
2136
01:33:08.380 --> 01:33:10.359
a trio, so she could take the time out of
2137
01:33:10.380 --> 01:33:12.979
the ring. And this match wasn't too long. This is
2138
01:33:13.020 --> 01:33:15.539
what the matches should have been. Quick, to the point,
2139
01:33:15.939 --> 01:33:18.079
put the person over that's in the group, move on.
2140
01:33:18.100 --> 01:33:20.300
The only one that should have worked the singles match
2141
01:33:20.340 --> 01:33:22.470
during this whole time was Moxley. Moxley, I think, could
2142
01:33:22.510 --> 01:33:24.739
handle it. The other guys... have them in her groups
2143
01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:25.720
like this one here is.
2144
01:33:25.699 --> 01:33:30.199
Fine moxley just like we said not against orange cassidy
2145
01:33:30.500 --> 01:33:33.050
right so many better people that could have been against
2146
01:33:33.090 --> 01:33:36.050
like yeah no when orange cassidy's music hit i like
2147
01:33:36.069 --> 01:33:39.069
i literally was like oh come on really nobody wants
2148
01:33:39.109 --> 01:33:42.529
that um and then also to a you know brit
2149
01:33:42.550 --> 01:33:44.939
baker but in her hometown i feel like they were
2150
01:33:44.949 --> 01:33:46.800
gonna probably do more for this show with it but
2151
01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:48.760
it was what it was uh but.
2152
01:33:48.659 --> 01:33:51.170
You know they still had this moment where she's pissy
2153
01:33:51.210 --> 01:33:51.630
with it.
2154
01:33:51.590 --> 01:33:53.250
Where, you know, I'm not sure what they're going to
2155
01:33:53.270 --> 01:33:55.060
do in the storyline with it, but, and then Moxley
2156
01:33:55.069 --> 01:33:58.300
comes out to give Marina a hug. Why is Aubrey
2157
01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:01.979
still in the ring? She does not need to be
2158
01:34:02.020 --> 01:34:04.850
in the ring for this moment. There was no, there
2159
01:34:04.890 --> 01:34:08.359
was no, she does in her mind. There was like, again, I,
2160
01:34:09.029 --> 01:34:13.029
I hate to, I feel like a misogynist. You can
2161
01:34:13.090 --> 01:34:15.050
piss me off. Like it did like get the fuck
2162
01:34:15.130 --> 01:34:17.829
out of the ring. You're not a wrestler. You are
2163
01:34:17.890 --> 01:34:20.840
not in the death riders. You are a referee. You
2164
01:34:20.850 --> 01:34:23.920
need to be like, you know, seen only during the
2165
01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:26.659
match scene.
2166
01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:28.739
She could have made the three count and give Marina
2167
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:31.310
a hug and roll out. Yes. That would have been fine.
2168
01:34:31.770 --> 01:34:34.649
And then when Moxley, her and Moxley like tag out
2169
01:34:34.689 --> 01:34:36.050
kind of leaving, you know, or.
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01:34:36.050 --> 01:34:38.300
She comes in or she leaves and he comes in.
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01:34:38.699 --> 01:34:38.880
Yeah.
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01:34:38.979 --> 01:34:41.180
I just, I felt like, you know, she wants, I'm
2173
01:34:41.260 --> 01:34:41.739
part of it.
2174
01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:44.100
I'm a rest. I'm here. I'm one of the boys.
2175
01:34:44.159 --> 01:34:46.699
Like I figured she would stay. Yeah.
2176
01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:49.189
There's no need for all of her. Yeah.
2177
01:34:50.369 --> 01:34:53.390
We're at 28 likes so a few people can two
2178
01:34:53.449 --> 01:34:55.590
people can hit the like button before we leave like
2179
01:34:55.609 --> 01:34:57.130
to be at 30 when we do our live shows
2180
01:34:57.170 --> 01:34:59.970
folks but yeah and we appreciate the likes nonetheless but
2181
01:35:00.149 --> 01:35:01.609
thank you all peace out.
2182
01:35:01.489 --> 01:35:04.460
Yes absolutely thank you so so much for hanging out with.
2183
01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:08.460
Us um and then yeah you were just in the
2184
01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:10.640
ring you could have done this in the ring with
2185
01:35:10.699 --> 01:35:15.289
the new day like just mother fucker just You're right, though.
2186
01:35:15.590 --> 01:35:19.850
I didn't think about doing the promos together. You're right. God,
2187
01:35:19.890 --> 01:35:22.180
you nailed that, George. It would have been so much better.
2188
01:35:22.819 --> 01:35:25.420
It would have been great. It would have been great. Seriously.
2189
01:35:25.500 --> 01:35:28.779
Or even if he just does this with the New Day.
2190
01:35:29.140 --> 01:35:33.119
Austin Creed could not speak. They worked together for how
2191
01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:36.039
long in WWE? He was happy to be back. Austin
2192
01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:38.859
Creed was bawling. And that's fine. That's how he was
2193
01:35:38.899 --> 01:35:41.390
dealing with it. Swerve could have given his little thing
2194
01:35:41.430 --> 01:35:44.130
that he did here... but not just in the ring
2195
01:35:44.170 --> 01:35:45.829
with the two with the two of them or with
2196
01:35:45.930 --> 01:35:47.489
Nana two with three of them and then they all
2197
01:35:47.529 --> 01:35:50.579
hug afterwards like Kofi and Woods didn't have to say
2198
01:35:50.619 --> 01:35:51.100
anything but.
2199
01:35:51.060 --> 01:35:54.539
I guarantee you I guarantee you if they're in a
2200
01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:59.090
circle talking about Pac Creed would start thinking of stories
2201
01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:00.789
and they could you can cry and talk at the
2202
01:36:00.829 --> 01:36:04.090
same time and tell a funny story but people again
2203
01:36:04.149 --> 01:36:06.529
people don't understand the value of humor during all this
2204
01:36:06.550 --> 01:36:09.170
this would have been much better with stories i'm gonna
2205
01:36:09.189 --> 01:36:10.430
say it till i'm blue in the face.
2206
01:36:10.390 --> 01:36:12.909
No you're absolutely right and also too like sometimes even
2207
01:36:12.970 --> 01:36:15.710
if it's you know when somebody else says a story
2208
01:36:16.090 --> 01:36:18.229
you know you kind of interject and then you you
2209
01:36:18.270 --> 01:36:20.399
kind of find your footing and able to speak you
2210
01:36:20.420 --> 01:36:22.819
know what i mean like yeah yeah yeah yeah no
2211
01:36:22.859 --> 01:36:25.399
whether it's humor or not but just this was yes
2212
01:36:25.500 --> 01:36:27.619
no definitely done that um yes.
2213
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:29.539
Or could be telling a story and allison creed thinks
2214
01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:32.579
of the time that he uh right he put something
2215
01:36:32.659 --> 01:36:34.220
up on the shelf and it fell on his head
2216
01:36:34.279 --> 01:36:35.659
something like damn.
2217
01:36:35.220 --> 01:36:36.859
Right or like the time that they got stuck in
2218
01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:38.600
a snowstorm together and we had to sit in the
2219
01:36:38.659 --> 01:36:40.550
car for four and a half hours because we couldn't
2220
01:36:40.560 --> 01:36:42.819
get out of the road yeah.
2221
01:36:42.130 --> 01:36:44.449
There's great stuff for people like us to hear.
2222
01:36:44.789 --> 01:36:47.630
Yes because it's stuff we don't know it's stories that
2223
01:36:47.649 --> 01:36:50.189
you wouldn't ever be told anyway because they're not that
2224
01:36:50.409 --> 01:36:53.390
you know until these moments and they're trivial then yeah
2225
01:36:53.449 --> 01:36:55.470
it helps you connect with and honestly probably help the
2226
01:36:55.529 --> 01:36:59.010
fans connect more with pock and more with the wrestlers too.
2227
01:36:58.770 --> 01:37:02.159
But The fans live would have appreciated it more because,
2228
01:37:02.180 --> 01:37:03.659
like I said, they didn't seem to know how to
2229
01:37:03.720 --> 01:37:07.060
react to the matches because they weren't really sure how
2230
01:37:07.079 --> 01:37:08.800
to react. I mean, how do you react to these things?
2231
01:37:08.859 --> 01:37:12.239
I mean, we're not here to mock Matt. We're here
2232
01:37:12.270 --> 01:37:15.210
to pay tribute. So let's pay some fucking tribute.
2233
01:37:15.689 --> 01:37:18.989
Aside from, like, they were reacting to Moxley and then
2234
01:37:19.449 --> 01:37:21.569
the main event with all the Death Riders, like, they
2235
01:37:21.590 --> 01:37:23.750
were responding to that because they knew, like, hey, these
2236
01:37:23.770 --> 01:37:26.140
were his guys, that you could get into that one
2237
01:37:26.180 --> 01:37:30.079
with it, but not yeah you're right you are right
2238
01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:33.260
um shout out to our new subscriber we just gained
2239
01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:35.630
a new subscriber during tonight we appreciate that thanks all
2240
01:37:36.130 --> 01:37:38.970
uh and then the other thing though is i'm like
2241
01:37:38.989 --> 01:37:40.510
i said fine having the death riders in the match
2242
01:37:40.569 --> 01:37:42.989
no problem at all fine having to face the callous
2243
01:37:43.010 --> 01:37:44.819
family because they're all the people you got to beat
2244
01:37:44.859 --> 01:37:48.359
up anyway why the fuck was wardlow in this yeah
2245
01:37:48.579 --> 01:37:52.920
i had a problem with this He's not from Pittsburgh.
2246
01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:56.300
He's from Cleveland. I thought for what I was watching,
2247
01:37:56.319 --> 01:37:58.220
I'm like, oh, it's his hometown. It's not his hometown.
2248
01:37:58.439 --> 01:37:59.039
What the hell?
2249
01:37:59.460 --> 01:38:03.390
No. I think they promised this last week. I think
2250
01:38:03.409 --> 01:38:04.729
they promised this last week.
2251
01:38:04.750 --> 01:38:07.250
Not even last week. They promised it at, I think
2252
01:38:07.270 --> 01:38:09.229
it was, but they just said he was coming back.
2253
01:38:09.529 --> 01:38:10.770
Shout out to Shabir here.
2254
01:38:10.789 --> 01:38:12.970
That's our new subscriber. Thank you so much for subscribing.
2255
01:38:13.310 --> 01:38:15.250
Yeah, they should have postponed this.
2256
01:38:15.390 --> 01:38:17.829
This did not, and no one would have known, even
2257
01:38:17.869 --> 01:38:20.109
if it was fully promised that he was going to wrestle,
2258
01:38:20.130 --> 01:38:23.569
like nobody would have cared. Nobody would have cared if.
2259
01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:26.859
We're not putting in a multi-man either. Having a single
2260
01:38:26.899 --> 01:38:28.640
match to spray some guy.
2261
01:38:28.699 --> 01:38:30.750
Yes, that's what it should have been. It shouldn't have been.
2262
01:38:30.770 --> 01:38:33.289
It should have been a match. He beats a nobody
2263
01:38:33.329 --> 01:38:36.170
in a squad, a no name, somebody in a squash match.
2264
01:38:36.500 --> 01:38:39.000
This was another place to put somebody coming back because, again,
2265
01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:41.199
the fans didn't quite know how to react to this.
2266
01:38:41.420 --> 01:38:44.409
And not just somebody coming back. Right. And not just
2267
01:38:44.430 --> 01:38:47.989
somebody coming back, but somebody who was really, really over
2268
01:38:48.130 --> 01:38:50.590
at a point or two in this company. Somebody who's
2269
01:38:50.630 --> 01:38:53.590
a big guy that is a talent and has been
2270
01:38:53.630 --> 01:38:56.970
gone for how long? One more week ain't going to
2271
01:38:57.029 --> 01:39:00.569
hurt anybody. He's been off TV for two goddamn years,
2272
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:02.939
minus that one time he came back and blew out
2273
01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:04.319
his peck right away or whatever.
2274
01:39:04.359 --> 01:39:08.350
Yeah, because you can't do it. Again, the fans don't
2275
01:39:08.390 --> 01:39:10.359
know how to react to this because this is not
2276
01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:13.380
a thing where you're supposed to go crazy for somebody
2277
01:39:13.420 --> 01:39:16.779
coming back. That's not the point of the show. Yep. Yep.
2278
01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:19.979
Nope. You're absolutely right. And so is Travis there where, yeah,
2279
01:39:20.039 --> 01:39:22.300
he should have, they should have done more vignettes of Wardlow.
2280
01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:24.600
Like he's coming back. Not like you got to do.
2281
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:26.420
What was it? Veer is coming or whatever.
2282
01:39:26.460 --> 01:39:26.619
Yeah.
2283
01:39:26.840 --> 01:39:29.590
But like, just have a couple more things. Cause I
2284
01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:31.939
don't think I, from, I remember watching all out and
2285
01:39:32.159 --> 01:39:34.270
I've seen the video package. I don't remember them saying
2286
01:39:34.289 --> 01:39:37.430
like wrestling Wednesday. It was just like Wardlow's coming back.
2287
01:39:37.789 --> 01:39:40.430
You know, you saw Pat, you know, yeah, this, this,
2288
01:39:40.890 --> 01:39:43.109
this shocked me when he walked out.
2289
01:39:43.149 --> 01:39:45.149
I'm like, he came out. I was shocked too, actually.
2290
01:39:45.170 --> 01:39:45.409
Yeah.
2291
01:39:45.649 --> 01:39:49.710
Right. Like, a multi-man match in this environment good good
2292
01:39:49.909 --> 01:39:50.529
good call.
2293
01:39:50.350 --> 01:39:52.949
Yeah right like even if you want to like have
2294
01:39:52.979 --> 01:39:54.739
him with in front of the audience like he can
2295
01:39:54.760 --> 01:39:56.600
be like on the outside of the ring trying to
2296
01:39:56.640 --> 01:40:00.300
help the yeah this was real stew especially with the
2297
01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:03.949
callous family there's enough of them you don't need to
2298
01:40:04.050 --> 01:40:07.510
put wardlow in the fucking how many cows family members
2299
01:40:07.609 --> 01:40:10.229
are there for fuck's sake oh god this was just
2300
01:40:10.829 --> 01:40:12.369
Of all the things they did in the show, this
2301
01:40:12.409 --> 01:40:13.470
was the most baffling.
2302
01:40:13.770 --> 01:40:16.350
This was bad. This was mind-boggling to me.
2303
01:40:16.810 --> 01:40:22.180
Mind-boggling. And then the next mind-boggling part was, so the
2304
01:40:22.260 --> 01:40:24.819
Death Riders come out, and then it looks like Moxie's
2305
01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:26.640
going to wrestle in this match too, but then he
2306
01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:29.279
goes to the announce table, and he's like, ah, we're
2307
01:40:29.300 --> 01:40:31.899
just rolling with the punches or whatever. And Daniel Bryan,
2308
01:40:32.020 --> 01:40:34.930
or Bryan Danielson comes out to his music in his ear,
2309
01:40:35.350 --> 01:40:37.850
and the crowd does blow because people love Daniel Bryan.
2310
01:40:38.189 --> 01:40:41.090
But hey, he should never have wrestled and been in
2311
01:40:41.130 --> 01:40:43.270
this match. Or if he was going to do it,
2312
01:40:43.770 --> 01:40:47.170
he doesn't take any bumps. He comes in and just
2313
01:40:47.270 --> 01:40:49.270
hits an offensive move or three and then lead.
2314
01:40:50.109 --> 01:40:50.869
You don't even do that.
2315
01:40:50.970 --> 01:40:51.489
No, I don't either.
2316
01:40:53.470 --> 01:40:55.689
He was perfect when he showed up. He came out,
2317
01:40:55.970 --> 01:40:59.590
gave Mox a hug. That was enough. I don't want
2318
01:40:59.630 --> 01:41:01.630
to see this man wrestle. And clearly he's not in
2319
01:41:01.649 --> 01:41:03.689
the best shape. He's wearing a t-shirt for a reason.
2320
01:41:03.750 --> 01:41:04.390
You know what I mean?
2321
01:41:04.810 --> 01:41:05.029
Yeah.
2322
01:41:05.050 --> 01:41:07.649
When you're going Ric Flair t-shirt, like there's a reason
2323
01:41:07.789 --> 01:41:08.289
for it.
2324
01:41:08.689 --> 01:41:11.949
Yeah. Anything he comes out and does commentary.
2325
01:41:11.970 --> 01:41:12.710
Yeah.
2326
01:41:13.350 --> 01:41:16.489
With Moxley, that would have been fine. Or like I said,
2327
01:41:16.510 --> 01:41:18.590
in the beginning, when they came out and he hugged Moxley,
2328
01:41:18.649 --> 01:41:20.890
that should have been story time with those three, those
2329
01:41:20.909 --> 01:41:22.369
two guys. Yeah.
2330
01:41:22.850 --> 01:41:23.130
Yeah.
2331
01:41:23.170 --> 01:41:24.810
There's no reason to have him in the ring, especially
2332
01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:28.850
with all that. he can't be in the commentary team
2333
01:41:28.869 --> 01:41:29.789
because he can't.
2334
01:41:29.670 --> 01:41:32.710
Travel right and we all know that and like we
2335
01:41:32.750 --> 01:41:35.689
all know the history and and again like you said
2336
01:41:35.710 --> 01:41:38.449
the last time he was with the death riders they
2337
01:41:38.529 --> 01:41:41.449
tried to kill him it wasn't moxie was the perfect
2338
01:41:41.489 --> 01:41:45.939
main perpetrator claudio was there wheeler was there you know.
2339
01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:47.840
I was actually sad to see i was actually sad
2340
01:41:47.859 --> 01:41:49.039
to see him come out and wrestle.
2341
01:41:49.329 --> 01:41:51.510
I was too. I didn't want to see this at all.
2342
01:41:51.890 --> 01:41:53.770
The two things that bother me the most in this
2343
01:41:53.789 --> 01:41:56.789
show is Excalibur not taking his fucking mask off to
2344
01:41:56.850 --> 01:42:01.350
give that speech and Daniel Bryan, Daniel Bryan, Bryan Danielson wrestling.
2345
01:42:01.449 --> 01:42:03.840
Like I just didn't need it. And even if they
2346
01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:05.960
wanted to like have him be the reason the Death
2347
01:42:06.020 --> 01:42:09.399
Riders win, like he's the manager on the outside and
2348
01:42:09.420 --> 01:42:11.460
he runs and delivers one running knee.
2349
01:42:11.859 --> 01:42:12.100
Fine.
2350
01:42:12.699 --> 01:42:16.680
Fine with that. Wrestling at a match, taking bumps. The
2351
01:42:16.739 --> 01:42:18.600
last thing I wanted to see is taking a bump.
2352
01:42:18.949 --> 01:42:21.930
Yeah, I do know that, like, okay, said he wanted
2353
01:42:21.970 --> 01:42:24.409
to wrestle. Sure. I told Tony he wanted to.
2354
01:42:24.470 --> 01:42:26.630
Tony can't say no.
2355
01:42:26.689 --> 01:42:28.609
That's an easy no. It's an easy no for anybody.
2356
01:42:28.689 --> 01:42:29.409
It really is.
2357
01:42:30.689 --> 01:42:32.689
Here's the thing is, Tony doesn't even have to say no.
2358
01:42:32.979 --> 01:42:35.420
Go talk to Doc Sampson. Have Doc Sampson say no.
2359
01:42:35.659 --> 01:42:36.800
And yeah, I'm a dumb idiot.
2360
01:42:36.859 --> 01:42:38.479
I'm fine with that. I'm good with that.
2361
01:42:38.779 --> 01:42:42.100
I've been a dumb idiot and I'll stay that way.
2362
01:42:42.180 --> 01:42:44.039
You just tell him you're going to come out and
2363
01:42:44.060 --> 01:42:46.899
you're going to do commentary. That's your gig for tonight.
2364
01:42:47.840 --> 01:42:50.340
But I want to get in there. No, we're good.
2365
01:42:50.359 --> 01:42:52.810
Maybe you can come in and trip his foot. Right.
2366
01:42:53.470 --> 01:42:56.409
You know, if somebody are running knee on the outside,
2367
01:42:56.470 --> 01:42:58.630
you can do that because that's your knee and you
2368
01:42:58.649 --> 01:43:02.310
don't fall down. I, whatever, but just wrestling in a, I,
2369
01:43:02.329 --> 01:43:03.930
you could, but not as good.
2370
01:43:03.989 --> 01:43:06.479
It's just, Hey, not, you're not taking planned bumps.
2371
01:43:06.609 --> 01:43:12.979
Right. That's no reason. None. And like, honestly too, when
2372
01:43:13.020 --> 01:43:16.079
he came out, I thought the crowd was excited because
2373
01:43:16.100 --> 01:43:18.380
he was in his gear and then they weren't because
2374
01:43:18.420 --> 01:43:19.550
he was in his gear. You know what I mean?
2375
01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:21.369
Like they were like, Oh, we get to see Danielson wrestle.
2376
01:43:22.140 --> 01:43:23.420
Oh shit. Do we really want to see that?
2377
01:43:24.100 --> 01:43:26.340
You felt like it's tough to, it's tough to put
2378
01:43:26.380 --> 01:43:27.720
these people in that situation.
2379
01:43:27.739 --> 01:43:29.439
Yeah, it really is.
2380
01:43:29.470 --> 01:43:32.250
You're not there to see Brian Danielson wrestling. You're not
2381
01:43:32.270 --> 01:43:34.810
there to see Wardlow appear. You're not there for that.
2382
01:43:34.829 --> 01:43:37.130
You're there to pay tribute to a fallen comrade.
2383
01:43:37.170 --> 01:43:41.710
Yeah, no, totally. Yeah, no, this match. And again, like
2384
01:43:41.729 --> 01:43:44.310
we said, they needed, they totally needed to have this
2385
01:43:44.369 --> 01:43:47.460
match as the main event with the death riders going
2386
01:43:47.579 --> 01:43:50.880
over on whoever, but yeah, it didn't need to be
2387
01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:52.819
over with Wardlow and.
2388
01:43:52.739 --> 01:43:57.569
With Danielson in the meds. Like you just, uh, bad moves,
2389
01:43:57.689 --> 01:43:58.189
bad moves.
2390
01:43:58.750 --> 01:44:01.810
Um, but then, yeah. So then they're all, uh, they were,
2391
01:44:01.850 --> 01:44:04.109
they kind of all gathered around that chair and then
2392
01:44:04.149 --> 01:44:05.869
they show a great video package.
2393
01:44:06.270 --> 01:44:07.149
This was awesome.
2394
01:44:07.510 --> 01:44:09.010
Yes. This was great.
2395
01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:11.939
This was the only point where I almost teared up.
2396
01:44:12.460 --> 01:44:16.550
Like I've said before, I'm a good compartmentalizer. Ever since
2397
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:20.649
my dad died, I tried to train myself not to
2398
01:44:20.689 --> 01:44:23.409
let people who I don't know personally, not to let
2399
01:44:23.489 --> 01:44:26.989
their deaths impact me too much. Obviously, I'll care, but
2400
01:44:27.090 --> 01:44:30.140
I'm not going to let it affect me too much.
2401
01:44:30.180 --> 01:44:32.880
I only have so much emotions. I try not to
2402
01:44:32.920 --> 01:44:35.779
spend them all. But this was tough. It was a
2403
01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:39.449
great video package. It was very well done. It wasn't
2404
01:44:39.510 --> 01:44:40.050
too long.
2405
01:44:40.109 --> 01:44:42.550
But it was long enough. You know, four and a half,
2406
01:44:42.630 --> 01:44:43.229
five minutes.
2407
01:44:43.270 --> 01:44:46.109
That was perfect. Honestly, when it started, I was expecting
2408
01:44:46.149 --> 01:44:47.970
it to be like 10 to 15. I'm like, that's
2409
01:44:47.989 --> 01:44:50.460
going to be too much. This was done well. Back
2410
01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:52.600
to what we said it all out. Clearly, they've got
2411
01:44:52.899 --> 01:44:53.220
that there.
2412
01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:53.439
They have.
2413
01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:56.760
Tony has put trust in the. I think it's Mike
2414
01:44:56.779 --> 01:44:57.760
Mansuri is who it is.
2415
01:44:58.060 --> 01:45:00.760
The the video package guy, which is great because the
2416
01:45:00.779 --> 01:45:02.539
video packages have been a hell.
2417
01:45:02.340 --> 01:45:03.699
Of a lot better moving forward.
2418
01:45:04.810 --> 01:45:06.170
That was tough. Yeah.
2419
01:45:06.189 --> 01:45:06.949
Yeah. Yeah.
2420
01:45:07.619 --> 01:45:10.319
No, this one was a tough part.
2421
01:45:11.130 --> 01:45:15.329
But as it should have been. Yeah, absolutely.
2422
01:45:15.369 --> 01:45:19.779
You're done with the night. Yeah. Show the people and
2423
01:45:19.859 --> 01:45:22.180
get emotion out of the people. Because they've been through
2424
01:45:22.239 --> 01:45:22.720
it all now.
2425
01:45:23.579 --> 01:45:26.039
Yeah. Like you said, if you spent the whole show
2426
01:45:26.659 --> 01:45:30.380
having these round table or back and forth discussions about Pac, we,
2427
01:45:30.779 --> 01:45:32.779
we would have felt like we knew him so much
2428
01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:34.960
better before this started, you know what I mean? And
2429
01:45:34.979 --> 01:45:37.159
then it, not that it wasn't impactful as it was,
2430
01:45:37.300 --> 01:45:38.720
but like you said, if they'd have been telling those
2431
01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:41.039
stories and talking about it, like it would have been
2432
01:45:41.079 --> 01:45:43.159
even more impactful. Cause then you also could have like
2433
01:45:43.460 --> 01:45:47.439
had intercut scenes where you see him like hugging somebody's arm. Like, Oh, I,
2434
01:45:47.479 --> 01:45:49.100
they told that story where they were locked in the
2435
01:45:49.119 --> 01:45:50.119
snow or whatever.
2436
01:45:50.159 --> 01:45:51.939
You could, you could have just put a table in
2437
01:45:51.970 --> 01:45:53.689
the ring with four chairs around it and just move
2438
01:45:53.699 --> 01:45:55.329
it out during the matches and bring it back in. Like,
2439
01:45:56.109 --> 01:45:57.430
like that would have been fine the.
2440
01:45:57.329 --> 01:46:02.710
Picture yeah yes yes god damn it yes um and
2441
01:46:02.729 --> 01:46:04.750
then the last shot with the chair with the chair
2442
01:46:05.029 --> 01:46:06.729
that was you know and the towel on it and
2443
01:46:06.750 --> 01:46:09.710
the spotlight and the death rider surrounding it great that
2444
01:46:09.750 --> 01:46:15.460
was fantastic too but again danielson wrestling and wardlow in
2445
01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:18.640
wardlow i know he didn't take the pin but he's
2446
01:46:18.699 --> 01:46:20.560
on the team that took the loss.
2447
01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:22.670
Like Like we talk about every time in.
2448
01:46:22.649 --> 01:46:26.510
This company, people debut and lose or come back and lose.
2449
01:46:26.529 --> 01:46:27.850
That's so Vince.
2450
01:46:27.989 --> 01:46:30.850
I paid no attention to the matches, honestly. Done.
2451
01:46:31.210 --> 01:46:32.270
Yeah.
2452
01:46:32.689 --> 01:46:36.229
Because I said the people that were supposed to wrestle did,
2453
01:46:36.550 --> 01:46:38.750
but the people that weren't supposed to wrestle also wrestled.
2454
01:46:38.930 --> 01:46:40.750
I didn't want to see any of that.
2455
01:46:40.869 --> 01:46:42.109
No, I didn't need to see Orange Cast.
2456
01:46:42.170 --> 01:46:43.930
It wasn't the name of the show. The name of
2457
01:46:43.949 --> 01:46:46.390
the show was a tribute to Pac. That's what I
2458
01:46:46.430 --> 01:46:49.430
wanted to see. When I tune in, that's what I
2459
01:46:49.470 --> 01:46:52.199
wanted to see. I don't want to see Orange Cassidy wrestle.
2460
01:46:52.460 --> 01:46:53.899
I don't want to see, I want to see a
2461
01:46:53.939 --> 01:46:57.239
Death Riders, John Moxley in the singles, Death Riders in
2462
01:46:57.260 --> 01:46:59.739
the tag, Marina Schaefer in a tag probably because she
2463
01:46:59.779 --> 01:47:03.100
can't work a singles match. I get that. That's fine. Right.
2464
01:47:03.119 --> 01:47:05.539
Nothing personal against her, but you can't expect her to
2465
01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:05.960
do that.
2466
01:47:06.279 --> 01:47:06.500
Right.
2467
01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:09.340
So just give me the three and then surround, give me,
2468
01:47:09.590 --> 01:47:10.550
give me laughter.
2469
01:47:11.010 --> 01:47:11.829
Make me laugh.
2470
01:47:12.350 --> 01:47:14.770
Make me know, Pox, when this last thing comes up,
2471
01:47:15.250 --> 01:47:16.800
now I'm invested 110%. Yes.
2472
01:47:16.930 --> 01:47:21.590
And, You know, it's one of those things, too, where
2473
01:47:22.189 --> 01:47:25.100
this show didn't need to be a two-hour and 20-minute show. Like,
2474
01:47:25.140 --> 01:47:26.600
this one could have been the one where you hit
2475
01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:29.939
your fucking time because you only have the three matches. And, like,
2476
01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.319
maybe it goes a little over because story time got
2477
01:47:32.340 --> 01:47:32.579
more intense.
2478
01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:34.380
Right, four minutes over because of the package.
2479
01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:36.399
That would have been fine. Yeah, exactly.
2480
01:47:36.739 --> 01:47:38.920
Even up to, like, eight to ten minutes, cool.
2481
01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:41.189
But, like, this was... It didn't need to go as
2482
01:47:41.229 --> 01:47:44.369
long as the show went because you didn't need... Like
2483
01:47:44.430 --> 01:47:48.020
I said, honestly... I was fine with every match. Like
2484
01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:50.159
I said, we didn't need Danielson and we didn't need
2485
01:47:50.180 --> 01:47:54.100
Orange Cassidy, but the matches, you didn't need the elite match.
2486
01:47:54.140 --> 01:47:56.079
If you cut that out of the show, they would
2487
01:47:56.100 --> 01:48:02.720
have hit their time. You know, I just, yeah, it was...
2488
01:48:03.100 --> 01:48:05.180
They did it, you know, that's how they did their show,
2489
01:48:05.220 --> 01:48:08.659
but I just didn't need... Yeah, didn't need the elite wrestling,
2490
01:48:08.939 --> 01:48:12.659
didn't need Danielson wrestling, didn't need Orange Cassidy wrestling, didn't
2491
01:48:12.699 --> 01:48:15.479
need Wardlow wrestling. The rest of it was fine, but...
2492
01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:18.770
yeah no and that was I mean and that was
2493
01:48:18.810 --> 01:48:21.279
the show I mean it was a good tribute overall
2494
01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:23.100
but it would have could have been so much better
2495
01:48:23.399 --> 01:48:26.149
if you'd have spent more time with them telling those
2496
01:48:26.189 --> 01:48:29.350
stories in the ring in front of people laughing and
2497
01:48:30.069 --> 01:48:32.630
getting through it together. Cause that's more like, I kept saying,
2498
01:48:32.649 --> 01:48:35.510
we're a family, we're a family. Yeah. That's what families
2499
01:48:35.609 --> 01:48:36.949
do every time.
2500
01:48:36.970 --> 01:48:39.770
They tell people there's families and they show individual people
2501
01:48:39.829 --> 01:48:40.689
telling stories.
2502
01:48:41.069 --> 01:48:41.390
Yeah.
2503
01:48:41.430 --> 01:48:42.609
That's not how it works.
2504
01:48:42.649 --> 01:48:45.569
Yeah, no, that's exactly, exactly. Like, I mean, I can
2505
01:48:45.590 --> 01:48:49.739
remember when my grandmother passed away, my uncle, her son, like,
2506
01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:51.850
I think we're talking about like, We were talking because
2507
01:48:51.890 --> 01:48:54.430
my grandmother, she was like five foot tall and the
2508
01:48:54.489 --> 01:48:57.350
loudest person that we knew. And my uncle like made
2509
01:48:57.369 --> 01:48:59.750
the joke that that passed on to me because I'm
2510
01:48:59.789 --> 01:49:01.520
now like the loudest person in my family.
2511
01:49:01.779 --> 01:49:03.859
And we all laughed about it. We all felt better
2512
01:49:03.920 --> 01:49:04.279
about it.
2513
01:49:04.319 --> 01:49:06.159
It was a way to like, like you said, you're
2514
01:49:06.180 --> 01:49:08.340
not laughing at the person's death. You're not laughing and
2515
01:49:08.359 --> 01:49:10.970
that they're dead. You're just getting yourself through it because
2516
01:49:10.989 --> 01:49:13.720
you've got to. You can't just feel sadness. That's not
2517
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:15.739
the only emotion you can feel when you lose someone.
2518
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:17.680
I have not been to one week of any kind
2519
01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:18.800
where I haven't left once.
2520
01:49:19.220 --> 01:49:19.579
Right.
2521
01:49:19.819 --> 01:49:22.640
Yeah. We always used to tell stories and stuff.
2522
01:49:22.659 --> 01:49:25.659
You've got to. I mean, that's the human condition. That's
2523
01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:27.800
how we got to get through it, you know? I mean,
2524
01:49:27.819 --> 01:49:29.579
that's part of the whole process.
2525
01:49:29.739 --> 01:49:31.680
They nailed the beginning of the show. They nailed the
2526
01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:34.060
end of the show. It could have been done a
2527
01:49:34.100 --> 01:49:37.010
lot better. But on a whole, I'm okay with it.
2528
01:49:37.590 --> 01:49:39.430
The matches suck. Yeah.
2529
01:49:40.529 --> 01:49:43.350
Unnecessary. Yeah, you're right. The beginning and the end were great.
2530
01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:46.579
They could have done so much better. We're not saying
2531
01:49:46.600 --> 01:49:48.119
that it's bad or it was terrible or whatever. It
2532
01:49:48.140 --> 01:49:51.279
was just you had other opportunities. You had chances.
2533
01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:54.140
You had a good opportunity with it.
2534
01:49:54.500 --> 01:49:56.260
It's all right there in front of you.
2535
01:49:56.600 --> 01:50:00.180
I mean, a microcosm of AEW where you just don't.
2536
01:50:00.619 --> 01:50:02.859
There's not one person that would have turned that down. No.
2537
01:50:03.619 --> 01:50:04.960
If someone would have come up to me and said, George,
2538
01:50:04.979 --> 01:50:06.579
you're going to go out there and tell a story
2539
01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:07.739
by yourself. I said, nope.
2540
01:50:08.289 --> 01:50:09.050
Right.
2541
01:50:09.069 --> 01:50:10.470
To go out there and tell a story with three
2542
01:50:10.489 --> 01:50:12.329
other guys about the time you impacted this.
2543
01:50:12.390 --> 01:50:12.670
Okay.
2544
01:50:12.729 --> 01:50:13.829
I'm into that. Yeah.
2545
01:50:14.350 --> 01:50:16.739
Or, or even like, if it's like an example, like
2546
01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:19.659
cash wheelers spoke, like if him and Dax went out there,
2547
01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:21.159
you know what I mean? You could have two, if
2548
01:50:21.180 --> 01:50:22.579
you're a friend, you know what I mean?
2549
01:50:22.600 --> 01:50:24.119
Don't we go out there and tell stories?
2550
01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:25.500
Yeah, exactly.
2551
01:50:25.640 --> 01:50:26.140
That you're right.
2552
01:50:26.159 --> 01:50:29.579
It's fine. Yeah. Yeah.
2553
01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:29.840
No.
2554
01:50:29.979 --> 01:50:31.149
Yeah.
2555
01:50:31.390 --> 01:50:32.149
It's just the.
2556
01:50:32.050 --> 01:50:32.729
Whole thing was.
2557
01:50:33.750 --> 01:50:34.090
Yeah.
2558
01:50:34.109 --> 01:50:35.590
You could have done it so much better with it.
2559
01:50:36.800 --> 01:50:38.079
We did hit 30 likes. Thank you all.
2560
01:50:38.300 --> 01:50:40.899
Thank you. Yes. We appreciate all of that. I also
2561
01:50:40.939 --> 01:50:43.939
did see that edge was at the Toronto Maples Leafs game.
2562
01:50:44.039 --> 01:50:47.039
I was like, that's not a great look, buddy. It probably,
2563
01:50:47.279 --> 01:50:49.100
probably should have kept those tickets up and just came
2564
01:50:49.140 --> 01:50:52.020
back and went to the show here. But yeah, you know,
2565
01:50:52.060 --> 01:50:54.239
like I said, it was what it was. There was,
2566
01:50:55.439 --> 01:50:57.779
There was good parts to it. You had the right
2567
01:50:57.819 --> 01:51:00.460
setup with those three matches. You didn't need to add
2568
01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:02.460
the other two. Like I said, if you wanted the
2569
01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:05.699
Osprey on there, have it be short and sweet. More
2570
01:51:05.739 --> 01:51:07.899
would have been better with him and Ricochet telling stories
2571
01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:09.020
and talking about Pac.
2572
01:51:09.039 --> 01:51:12.399
You didn't need to see him wrestle. But, I mean,
2573
01:51:12.430 --> 01:51:13.739
it is what it is.
2574
01:51:13.810 --> 01:51:16.170
I know sometimes people say, like, oh, well, you want
2575
01:51:16.210 --> 01:51:18.989
to perform when you're feeling bad because it makes you
2576
01:51:19.010 --> 01:51:20.949
feel better or whatever. Telling stories would have been the
2577
01:51:20.989 --> 01:51:21.369
best way.
2578
01:51:21.430 --> 01:51:22.949
It didn't seem like they wanted to perform.
2579
01:51:22.989 --> 01:51:23.750
No, no.
2580
01:51:24.340 --> 01:51:27.939
And that's understandable. It's totally understandable.
2581
01:51:29.020 --> 01:51:31.840
Yeah, you nailed it. Three matches. Mox in a single,
2582
01:51:32.260 --> 01:51:35.289
Marina in a tag or trio of the Death Riders.
2583
01:51:36.149 --> 01:51:37.989
But it could have just been the three Death Riders.
2584
01:51:38.069 --> 01:51:43.329
You know what I mean? Wheeler, Claudio Garcia. You didn't
2585
01:51:43.369 --> 01:51:45.829
need anybody else in that. You know what I mean? Like,
2586
01:51:46.170 --> 01:51:48.909
I guess maybe Gabe kid, cause he's a death rider. Sure.
2587
01:51:48.949 --> 01:51:51.170
But just Wheeler, I think you just put in another
2588
01:51:51.210 --> 01:51:53.770
trios match and then you would not add Wardlow in it.
2589
01:51:53.779 --> 01:51:56.189
Cause you could have just had, you know, what was it?
2590
01:51:56.239 --> 01:52:00.840
Jake Doyle, Mark Davis. And I don't know, Lance Archer
2591
01:52:00.939 --> 01:52:02.619
or whoever it was, but it just, you didn't need to,
2592
01:52:02.640 --> 01:52:05.979
or Josh Alexander. Wardlow doesn't need to be in that
2593
01:52:06.050 --> 01:52:10.550
match to lose and show up. Like it just, ah, yeah,
2594
01:52:10.649 --> 01:52:14.550
no Wardlow coming out and Danielson wrestling. I didn't need, but, um,
2595
01:52:14.770 --> 01:52:16.510
but that was the puck tribute show. I'm glad we
2596
01:52:16.529 --> 01:52:19.250
had this conversation today. It was a very good, uh, very,
2597
01:52:19.289 --> 01:52:22.670
very impactful, very, um, honest and authentic. And we're again,
2598
01:52:22.949 --> 01:52:24.609
just given our opinions on what we know is in
2599
01:52:24.649 --> 01:52:27.109
front of us. We're just speculating on what we could
2600
01:52:27.130 --> 01:52:29.510
have happened and what we think. And even so I,
2601
01:52:29.729 --> 01:52:32.479
even if it turns out that it was, uh, Nothing
2602
01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:34.420
the company could have done and he was hiding or whatever.
2603
01:52:35.100 --> 01:52:37.859
Hopefully this does revamp and make them introduce a real
2604
01:52:37.899 --> 01:52:40.789
wellness policy. I know Tony wants to let people do
2605
01:52:40.829 --> 01:52:43.590
whatever they want to do, but got to protect these
2606
01:52:43.630 --> 01:52:44.670
wrestlers from themselves.
2607
01:52:45.090 --> 01:52:48.569
Yes, that's why I wanted to specifically come on and
2608
01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:50.340
say something because I've been through all this.
2609
01:52:50.420 --> 01:52:54.189
Right, right. And it's one of those things too, where
2610
01:52:54.310 --> 01:52:56.649
because of the way they do this, because of the
2611
01:52:56.689 --> 01:52:59.170
way they wrestle and it's on the pay-per-views.
2612
01:52:59.189 --> 01:52:59.390
Yes.
2613
01:52:59.449 --> 01:53:01.840
But a lot of times just on dynamite where, you know,
2614
01:53:01.880 --> 01:53:04.979
they're going to be hurting. Like that only is asking
2615
01:53:05.039 --> 01:53:07.720
for trouble. You know, like if you just, like I've
2616
01:53:07.739 --> 01:53:10.300
said before, like there's a reason I watch wrestling and
2617
01:53:10.380 --> 01:53:13.659
not MMA. Like I don't want to see people actually hurt.
2618
01:53:14.180 --> 01:53:17.079
It's supposed to look like it hurts, but not. And
2619
01:53:17.119 --> 01:53:19.029
I know sometimes you're going to have to hurt and whatever, but,
2620
01:53:19.590 --> 01:53:21.829
There's just too much in these shows where they're just
2621
01:53:22.029 --> 01:53:26.569
jumping off through things and everything else. But yeah, that
2622
01:53:26.609 --> 01:53:28.850
is our show for tonight. Thanks, everybody, for hanging out.
2623
01:53:28.869 --> 01:53:30.149
We went a little bit long, but it was a
2624
01:53:30.170 --> 01:53:33.109
great conversation. The chat was very lively. We appreciate everybody here.
2625
01:53:33.130 --> 01:53:36.069
Appreciate the new subscriber as well. Be sure to hit
2626
01:53:36.109 --> 01:53:38.699
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share this video with a friend or two. Maybe you've
2628
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got a friend who's got– that you know has an
2629
01:53:43.319 --> 01:53:45.239
issue that you haven't listened to. Have them listen to
2630
01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:48.000
our first hour. That was a pretty good– conversation like
2631
01:53:48.039 --> 01:53:50.000
i said with somebody who's been through it and you
2632
01:53:50.020 --> 01:53:52.539
know we only want to see people get improve.
2633
01:53:52.220 --> 01:53:54.479
And get better like we do with everything of it but.
2634
01:53:54.840 --> 01:53:58.420
Yeah text text or call 980 or any of us.
2635
01:53:58.579 --> 01:54:01.319
And yes please like i said my aim the email
2636
01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:04.340
address all jake takes on at gmail.com my dms on
2637
01:54:04.380 --> 01:54:06.239
twitter were open i got a lot of different dms
2638
01:54:06.260 --> 01:54:08.600
i was dming with brad today with drew today about
2639
01:54:08.659 --> 01:54:10.729
it that was where i came up with that excalibur
2640
01:54:10.739 --> 01:54:12.189
thing i got really mad when i was like why
2641
01:54:12.210 --> 01:54:15.979
do you wear a mask it pissed me off But anyway,
2642
01:54:16.020 --> 01:54:19.180
we will be back this Sunday at 8.05 p.m. Eastern
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Standard Time. By then, we'll both have watched Worlds collide
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and we'll at least talk about any parts we want
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to talk about and SmackDown as well.
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But yeah, until then, I think that's all we're going
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to get into today.
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Anything else you want to get into today, my friend? Nope. Awesome. Well, thanks.
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Thank you all.
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Perfect. Thanks everybody for hanging out. We will see you
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on Sunday, 8 0 5 PM Eastern. And then this
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Tuesday for WDS at 8 PM Eastern standard time on
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the awful resting channel. Let's see you guys on Sunday
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back here at all. Jay takes on 8 0 5
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PM Eastern. Peace everybody. Thanks for watching AEW live review
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on YouTube with all Jake and George. Tune in on
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Sundays at 8.05 p.m.
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Eastern Time for Sunday Night Spaces with Alt Jake and
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George live on YouTube.
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Thursday and you know what that means it's AEW live
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review on YouTube with Alt Jake and George good evening
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everybody how is it going you are listening to Alt
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Jake takes on another live dynamite review here with my
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buddy George as always how you doing this evening my friend.
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I see you're still in your late-night greeting mode.
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Yeah, I like it better.
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I like it better. All right.
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I'm down.
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Right? You know, we got to adapt and change as
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we grow, right? Sure.
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I'm okay with that.
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Right? Yeah.
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I thought so. I thought about it yesterday. I'm like, yeah,
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I think I'm going to do that this time.
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Why not?
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If people don't like it, I can always go back.
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Works for me.
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Nice. Nice. Nice.
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How are you doing tonight, my friend?
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Moving along. Moving along. Everything's moving along. Just boring during
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the day sometimes. But other than that, everything's going well.
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I'm progressing nicely on my rehab. Everything's going well.
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Nice. That's what matters. The physical therapy is going well.
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The recovery is on its way. That's what people want
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to hear. That's for sure. I know the audience is
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really– we want to make sure that George is doing
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well and mobile and good. No, that's good. That is good.
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That is good.
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I know you don't give a shit, but the Yankees
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knocked out the Red Sox yesterday.
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Oh, yeah. No, I saw. I don't give a shit.
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I know. I didn't even care.
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It's funny. I was going through my time hop yesterday,
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and one of the things that popped up was, I forget,
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it was like a few years ago, and it was like,
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I forget the player. It might have been Aaron Judge
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or somebody else was like, They have struck out 167
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times so far this baseball season. Tony Gwynn struck out
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167 times in the nineties.
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I'm like, there's why I don't like baseball as much anymore.
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And it's just all strikeouts at home runs.
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What you would like then is this year, Chicago White
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Sox are actually in this thing, right? They are playing
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the single, single bunt, single bunt.
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Type of game. So yeah, no, like was it, was
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it the Royals a few years ago, probably 10 years
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ago now when they won the world series or we're
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in the world series. Yeah. That's what I, it's not
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that I also be completely small ball, but I just
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like the management of it.
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I honestly miss the national league having the no DH.
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Like I liked it separated the leagues and you had
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to like do double switches and stuff, but yeah, no
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is what it is. It's I mean, I'll watch baseball
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here and there if it's on or if like, you know,
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if it's at Fenway park, but I just don't.
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I'll watch the playoffs.
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That's like, yeah.
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I mean, now that's it.
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I'm also at that weird age where like now I'm,
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I obviously I've been older than players for quite a
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long time, but now I'm like older than most of
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the coaches and men. So I'm like, God damn it.
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I don't even take it into account. I just love
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sports in general. So I'm all over it. Nope.
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I guess, like I said, the pandemic, the pandemic kind
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of drew a line in the sand. There was people
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that were like, Desperate for sports and needed it and
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missed it. And then there was others like me who
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were like, I thought I'd miss it more. I really did.
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that really do love it. Like, I still like it.
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I enjoyed the World Cup. I watch Tottenham still. I
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love them, but really I love the Arizona group that
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I watch this team with, which is good because we're
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terrible this year, like the last three years, but that's
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life is what it is. I hope we got a
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quick super chat here that I won't throw up.
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You and Q me up for $ 1.
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99. Thank you so much, and this is a great reminder.
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Hope everybody's doing well. Just remember to please hit the
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like button on your way in or your way out.
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Just please hit the like button, subscribe. If you can
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share it to your socials or to some friends. all
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of that kind of stuff helps the helps the algorithm. Yeah.
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Our pop book show did very well.
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All of those did pretty well. I, I, I, you
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said it at the end of on Tuesday night of
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where we have more like West coast and late night
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viewers than we thought. Yeah. Which is good. No, that's nice.
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Which honestly, like I'm, I'm not opposed to being, being
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on the West coast. I'm not opposed. Oh yeah.
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Kevin with this one here. I forgot about that. The
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white socks, the, the, the Pope is pretty cool to see.
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It was funny.
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worst team in baseball.
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They didn't get busted at the beginning of the year.
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They got blessed during the playoffs. So is it.
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Gotcha. Gotcha.
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It was interesting. It's interesting. The Pope is from Chicago. Yeah.
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a 2005 World Series when they won where there's like
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a shot of the fans.
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I'm like, that's pretty cool.
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Also, a bunch of the fans now have the Pope headgear.
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I saw a picture of that on Twitter yesterday. I'm like,
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that's good stuff.
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You got to own it. I mean, this isn't going
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to happen again anytime soon.
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So you got to run with it.
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I didn't even know they were in there. And I
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was like, because Monday Night Football came up and they're like, yeah,
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the Bears are playing. The Cubs are in the playoffs
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and so are the White Sox. I'm like, what? They
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were the worst team in the league last year by far.
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Right. Like, didn't they win like less than 60 games
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or just about 60 games?
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I don't even know if they made that.
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know if it was, I think it was on TV.
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the locker room. And I was like, oh, good for them.
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it's a great.
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have those type of things and where a team wins
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a title or a trophy for the first time in
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X amount of years and the whole fans can celebrate.
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and a bunch of others, they're at the lower end
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of the pay scale.
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They're the least spending teams. There are, I think, Chicago...
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and the luxury tax yeah they don't even come close
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to that yeah.
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Unlike the dodgers you pay it for everybody.
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have been really spending big with otani and stuff which
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i mean hey you got to do it i mean
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that's when you get if you've got if you've got
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the big enough um yeah market to do it where
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you're getting, where you're selling out your stadium in that
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city where you can sell with tickets will be, you know,
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twice as much as other places go for it.
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dumb contract moves and they're still paying for it. I
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think it's Sean Carlos on this team, $ 300 million. He
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does nothing. Right.
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I was going to say, and he's, I mean, and
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you thought that you'd think that would have ended, you know, when, uh,
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George Steinbrenner passed away, but I guess, I don't know.
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His kid, one of his kids runs the team, doesn't it? Um, Yeah,
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I mean, hey, I get it.
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I get it.
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You got to do what you can.
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those big name splashy signings are good for the back
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pages and just to try to draw up some sort
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of attention in New York, you know, especially, you know,
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when the Jets exist. Oh, man. Oh, man. I see
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people asking.
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I haven't actually watched Worlds Collide yet, guys.
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It wasn't important.
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Yeah, and I started it, and then I had some tough...
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Like I said on Tuesday, I just recently got hired
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for a full-time salaried... corporate actual position like a real
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i'm a real job pinocchio so i've been filling out
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paperwork and doing my i9 stuff taking shot taking pictures
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of my uh passport and stuff letting them know i'm
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a real human um so i i was doing most
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of that today and i do want to watch it
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though i've because i've But I also kept up with
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the highlights on Saturday night where I saw like, you know,
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Obafemi and Punk doing what I said he was going
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to do coming out.
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With the straight edge society mask.
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I didn't realize he's going to come out to kill
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switch and gauge, which was smart, but I knew that
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when they booked him into that match, I'm like, well,
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of course he's going to wear the straight edge society mask.
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Like that's it's in Chicago. He's got it at home.
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It's right there. Too easy, too easy, too easy.
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I kept up on all the stats. When we get there,
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I got everything that, how it was going on YouTube
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at the time.
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Oh, nice. Nice. I mean, hey, and like I said, too,
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I feel like that show was less for fans and
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people to see it. Like, yes, we can see it,
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but it's, again, similar to what they did with the
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mask versus mask thing where this is trying to get.
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Here's our product. Here's what we can do. Here's how
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we can get bigger.
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Please give us a TV deal, which I would be
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surprised if they don't walk one down by the end
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of the year for AAA somewhere. I mean, there's got
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to be... I still feel like Amazon is that answer.
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I just, they might be content to stick them around YouTube.
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They might, they might. I mean, they make, I was
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on a black the other night I was on, um,
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I told you I was like, last I was on
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a YouTube tracking site and I had pulled up WWE there.
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the only channel with like an a plus rating and
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then the estimated money that they're getting like in the
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last 30 days was like 2.1 million dollars so that's
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just wwe not triple a so right and and it
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ranks and it's it's estimate is low because i put
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our channel in there and it's like oh you've made
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like 32 i'm like no we made like 300 but
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it's funny that way um but okay good for them
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like they're i think they're still like wwe's like ranked
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ninth or tenth in all of youtube for subscribers they
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got 170 million or something like that so yeah we're
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close yeah we're working goals goals Again, that's why every share,
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every like, every subscription, it all helps. Like we've said before,
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everything that we do, everything that we gain is all
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just because of us.
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We don't spin off from other people's of it.
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We're not getting bot farms or anything like some people.
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You'll go through and you'll get the YouTube bot purge
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because sometimes bots do pop in.
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Yeah.
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And you'll get the purge and we'll, we'll drop like
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five or six people.
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Yeah. Although the most recent one, I, because I was
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looking at those stats, that one that happened like right
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before we had Lorenzo on, that was a system error
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or something. Cause everybody, whatever they lost on that day,
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got it all back on the next day. And we
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actually gained some back with it. So yeah, no, I'm
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I feel like that's the thing too, is we, if
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we do have bots or fake accounts or whatever here
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and there, It's only, we'll only ever lose like one
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or two, you know, steadily we grow, steadily we grow.
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And still only been at this for what, like 19,
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20 months. And we've got over 700 subscribers. It's moving. Yeah, no, exactly.
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Like even so, even for this show, we used to have,
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you know, eight or nine people watching and there's over
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20 right now. So we thank each and every one
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of you for hanging out. We appreciate it. Please hit
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that like button. You can send in a super chat
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if you like. But the biggest things we're looking for
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is subscriptions and likes.
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That's kind of that's our world right now.
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That's our currency.
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Especially now that Jake got a good paying job again.
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I don't have to make an hourly wage where they
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make you work under 40 hours a week so they
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don't have to give you benefits. Oh, it's a contract rule. Yeah,
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it'll totally be three to six months. And after six weeks, ooh, sorry,
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the terrorist got us. All right, fine. I get to
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be a real boy again.
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I can't wait to see you after the first couple
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days of work.
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It'll be fine. I've done it before. I, I, yeah,
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it'll be good. I'm excited.
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Hey, I don't have to drive on the highway.
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Oh God. Yeah. Especially with you having to get up
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that early. Um, yeah, no, because I'll be salary. I
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can kind of work my hours like on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
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I'll go in early so I can get home and
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be ready to do shows, but. I can kind of
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mess around with the other days. Also, half my role
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will be doing out and about. I'm a recruiter, so
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I'll be doing career fairs and visiting college campuses and stuff,
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which helps that I'm loud and extrovert and can bring
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people over like a carnival barker. That's kind of how
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I roll. But yeah, no, we will definitely get into
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the Dynamite tribute to pack. I mean, it was.
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Can we stop for a second?
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Please, by all means.
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If you don't mind, can we do a little follow-up
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from yesterday's show with this and awful, please?
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Sure, yes.
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I had some thoughts. I know you had some thoughts.
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We were both in the chat last night. If you
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haven't listened to this show, please go back and listen
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because then it's going to make more sense. I kind
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of wanted to take a shot at this using my
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point of view a little bit better because as you
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all know, George was addicted to pain medication for quite
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some time.
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Right.
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So I kind of wanted to come at this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So I wanted to come at this from a
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little different point of view, given the verbiage that was
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used by the people that came to the scene and everything,
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the slumping, the slumper, all that stuff. It just, from
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my point of view, and again, this is me talking.
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This is not Jake. This is just George. If you
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happen to agree, great. If you don't, It doesn't matter.
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This is from my point of view. When you start
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taking pain medication, there's one of two reactions people get.
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One is the person that gets woozy and may throw
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up and get sick and that person. The other side
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of it is the people like me that take one
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and they can run through a brick wall. Right. And
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there's no pain. And then they realized the one doesn't
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do it and you have to take two. That, yeah.
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Et cetera, et cetera.
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Like the Kurt Angle where he was taking like 40
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a day or whatever.
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Exactly, exactly. So this kind of was leading me down
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the way when it was warded and it was slumper
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and slumping over. That's what got me because in the
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time that I was addicted to all this, that never
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once happened to me. And with my friends and stuff,
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the only way I've ever seen it happen is if
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someone took too many. And that would be a lot.
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Like you're taking four or five at a time.
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Yeah.
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Oh, by the way, if you do have this problem
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and you don't have anybody to talk to, text or
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call 988, please. yeah or or.
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Like if you and if you're not comfortable with that
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shoot me an email like i will i.
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Would love to help people one of us dm one
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of us will both give you our phone number you
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can talk.
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To us individually it's something that you don't like i
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mean it that's it's one of those things where people
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think that they're so alone and that's in their own
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world and I know it's cliche, but reaching out is,
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it makes all the difference with it.
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That's your first step. So I know you, I know
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you were in the chat and you had some good
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ideas and I had, well, I just kept the quiet
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uncertainty because there's a way.
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To view it.
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And I immediately went to the Tom Petty situation. And
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if you remember what happened to Tom, he was on
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his pain medication and had run out, I believe. And
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then I think he got, he had to go out
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and get some from somewhere else.
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Right.
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And that pill that he got. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
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There's the, there's a, there's a D R U G
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that starts with the letter F and we'll just say.
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That everybody knows what it is. It's an epidemic in
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this country.
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And that's, that's also, I believe kind of what we
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think happened to Hogan too, was that, you get your
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prescription and those are, we'll say, we'll call them clean,
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you know, not with the, cause it's what it's supposed
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to be. Right. But when you go to the street,
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especially now, like, and especially with how, like, cause before,
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you know, back in the day, like when I was
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in the music industry, you could get, like people would
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have a prescription and then they would sell it. People
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don't get those anymore. Like I, when I got my
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teeth pulled, when I got my wisdom tooth out in March,
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they gave me 10, that are a 5%, like 5 milligrams.
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It wasn't anything. And I had to sign a waiver
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and I had to pay for Narcan with it and
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stuff because of the epidemic in this country, which is
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good to be protected against it.
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Yeah, but it's also bad because you can't get refills.
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Exactly. And there's no way to just get the clean
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ones anymore. Pretty much now, if you're buying it off
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the street, there's going to be a percentage, whether that's
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5% up to a hundred percent of the pill is
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going to be the F word. And that's, and that's
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where the slumping comes from. I've only seen it. I
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saw it once or twice. I live, there's a gas
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station near me. There's two gas station near me, near me.
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One of them's nice. And one of them's not.
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And at the not one, I've seen people like outside
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the store that would be, you know, panhandling or whatever
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you want to call it. And they're got that, call
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it the effie lean like you know i don't want
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to get in trouble with the words but everybody knows
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what it is and that was my first thought when
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it happened there and that could be one of those
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things where yeah maybe he took too many of them
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and we're just speculating we don't know anything i would
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doubt that right i just feel like yeah but if
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you but that's the thing with those type of pills
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one kid they say it all the time like one
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can take somebody depending so you can go like you
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can take.
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A half right and if it's the half you it's
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the wrong half you picked.
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And it's how your body connects with it or whatever.
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And everybody's different. It could also be one of those
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things where you could have been taking it for five years,
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you know, and then just the way your body reacts
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at a certain point or whatever it's mixed with.
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And that's where, and that's why, you know, I was.
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Saying too, like there's clearly no, if there's a wellness policy,
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it's like one of those, once you've been, when trouble,
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then you get tested, like, There should be a, every
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90 days you're going.
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To get tested at some point and you don't know when.
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Yeah, I think.
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And people should be watching, and there should be a,
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because that's what they do in like the NFL and
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Major League Baseball. There's somebody who watches you pee in
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a cup.
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That's why I wrote down, Shad has definitely already contacted Tony,
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and I'm sure they have updated, they're going to update
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their policy because.
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They have to.
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They have to, and if they don't, they will lose
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money in a lawsuit eventually.
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Yeah, and that's where I– And it won't be here.
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It won't be in this case because judging by that
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letter we heard on the program that was written by
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the family. Tony is already taking care of that so that.
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Ain't happening but depending on how the city of Chicago
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works there could be a criminal case against it where
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you're considering I don't think there will be but even
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so I said it in that chat yesterday too I'm
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like look if there's a way like even if they
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don't even if it's not like a cost and legal
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thing like if it comes back to where it was
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completely preventable or even worse that he was enabled to, to,
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to keep doing. Cause I've also seen a couple of
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different people that I know are involved in the business
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on some level. So they have some connections that were
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saying that like he was in massive pain going into
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Saturday and took a lot to keep it, to make
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sure he could do the match that he wanted to do.
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Cause they got to go all crazy with it or whatever.
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And if it's like, and, and they're saying that I,
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that person said that Tony knew that, if that's the
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case and that comes out to be a real thing,
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I mean, even if they don't lose, even if they're
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not like getting sued or on a criminal case for it, the,
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the real journalists will come out for it. You know,
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it's not going to be people that are going to
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butter him up with a 32nd to 62nd, like, Oh,
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it was the greatest show ever, Tony. I'm so glad
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you brought this wrestling to us. And then ask him
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a softball question. These are going to be people from like,
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you know, real TV channels, newspapers, magazines, whatever, they're gonna
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say they're gonna be asking questions and honestly they could
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that'll go up to shad because i mean yes tony
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is the quote-unquote runner and operator of the business but
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on paper like shad's really the one he's the bank
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roller so it's yeah that's and that's.
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Why tony jumped on that getting to the family quick.
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Yeah oh for sure for sure but it's just I
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don't know, man. When that toxicology report comes out, it's
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going to be great.
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Like I said, let me believe it's, again, this is
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me talking, nobody else. Let me believe that it's a
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mixture because based on everything that I've done and been
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involved with and seen, I've never once have seen anyone,
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including myself, and I was up to 15 to 20
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a day, I would never do that.
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Right, right. But if you had the regular clean pills,
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that's probably weird.
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Yeah, because this is a different time period.
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Right, yeah.
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And to be frank, my doctor now, I've already gotten
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two refills. My doctor now is great.
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Yeah.
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It's fine, because I do, when I go to physical therapy,
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I take just one of them when I go to bed,
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and that's it.
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Right.
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Because I'm definitely afraid of hopping back into that again.
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Right. And that's the other thing too, is because you
473
00:22:32.700 --> 00:22:34.500
know that and where it has been. And also too,
474
00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:38.119
you just had surgery. So it's a real pain thing
475
00:22:38.180 --> 00:22:41.119
as we're before back in, back when 10 years ago,
476
00:22:41.140 --> 00:22:43.500
when you're having issues, he sprayed an ankle, they give
477
00:22:43.539 --> 00:22:46.069
you a bottle of 50 of them. They didn't care back.
478
00:22:46.130 --> 00:22:48.150
No, no. And I had like, I had three scripts
479
00:22:48.210 --> 00:22:51.349
at once. Cause he'd loaded up on three. He would
480
00:22:51.410 --> 00:22:53.210
see me every six months is give me three months
481
00:22:53.230 --> 00:22:53.910
ahead of time.
482
00:22:53.970 --> 00:22:54.269
Right.
483
00:22:54.509 --> 00:22:57.119
Right. And even come close to that shit. Right.
484
00:22:57.460 --> 00:23:00.380
Well, and even back then too, you know, you could,
485
00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:02.119
you could probably, you know, get to a couple of
486
00:23:02.140 --> 00:23:05.690
different doctors. Cause there wasn't, they didn't care as much.
487
00:23:05.730 --> 00:23:07.269
It was, I mean, now if you get them, like
488
00:23:07.289 --> 00:23:09.269
when I got the ones for my teeth, like the
489
00:23:09.349 --> 00:23:12.150
bottle was the same, but like the cap was red
490
00:23:12.190 --> 00:23:16.150
and it's like caution opiates. And it's like, it's a different,
491
00:23:16.410 --> 00:23:19.769
it's a different world now with it. And if that's
492
00:23:19.829 --> 00:23:24.160
the reason why that's, you know, that's the reason why
493
00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:26.220
that's why you have to have this epidemic and how
494
00:23:26.259 --> 00:23:29.099
we have to try to, curb it and help people.
495
00:23:29.190 --> 00:23:32.420
But unfortunately, if you go to the streets, none of that,
496
00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:34.220
there's no restrictions, no regulation.
497
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:36.039
Yeah. It's not like the good old days. Like you said,
498
00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:38.519
you can't go down to your local do down the
499
00:23:38.579 --> 00:23:40.799
road and expect to get clean. Right.
500
00:23:40.940 --> 00:23:41.279
Exactly.
501
00:23:41.339 --> 00:23:42.119
It doesn't work that way anymore.
502
00:23:42.140 --> 00:23:43.240
It's just a crap shoot.
503
00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:45.000
It's a crap shoot. You don't want to take, man.
504
00:23:45.059 --> 00:23:47.980
Right. And you know, God forbid, if he got them,
505
00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:50.380
you know, like in Chicago, that's going to be a
506
00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:53.200
big city with a lot more things coming in, like,
507
00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:56.160
you know, coming off the lake or whatever with it. It's,
508
00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:57.339
It's bad news.
509
00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:00.069
I'm just, I'm fairly certain. I'm sorry to interrupt you.
510
00:24:00.109 --> 00:24:00.849
Go ahead.
511
00:24:00.910 --> 00:24:02.750
I'm sorry. I was not, I was, I was tailed off.
512
00:24:03.670 --> 00:24:07.470
I'm fairly certain based on everything that I've read and
513
00:24:08.009 --> 00:24:10.380
it's not, it wasn't food poisoning. I took that out
514
00:24:10.410 --> 00:24:12.160
because one of the articles I read, it was from
515
00:24:12.180 --> 00:24:16.400
the Chicago Tribune or WABC in Chicago, where they said
516
00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:18.960
he never went into the restaurant. So that was, that
517
00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:21.809
was rolled out for me there. But I do know
518
00:24:21.829 --> 00:24:25.920
everything's still under investigation. i did read that so they
519
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:29.680
are investigating this so that leads me to believe that
520
00:24:29.700 --> 00:24:33.750
there's something going on and i gotta think just again
521
00:24:33.789 --> 00:24:37.509
based on my knowledge being a druggie for 10 years
522
00:24:38.130 --> 00:24:40.029
that's it's a mixture of something.
523
00:24:40.190 --> 00:24:43.849
Right that was my first thought yeah no and like i.
524
00:24:43.779 --> 00:24:46.609
Said tom petty came to mind immediately Right. No.
525
00:24:46.630 --> 00:24:47.190
And that's that.
526
00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:47.430
Yeah.
527
00:24:47.549 --> 00:24:49.990
No, that's exactly. And that kind of stuff.
528
00:24:50.190 --> 00:24:53.200
I mean, you hear about it all the time. You know,
529
00:24:53.299 --> 00:24:55.519
it's one of the I mean, honestly, for me living
530
00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:59.799
in Arizona near the southern border, like their stories here
531
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:01.359
all the time.
532
00:25:01.220 --> 00:25:03.390
About it, because it's just one of those things that.
533
00:25:03.930 --> 00:25:05.890
Unfortunately happens i mean you hear about it with a
534
00:25:05.930 --> 00:25:07.690
lot of times it's like high school kids or whatever
535
00:25:07.710 --> 00:25:10.109
they're like trying to mess around and like you said
536
00:25:10.130 --> 00:25:12.990
they take one or half of one that's the wrong
537
00:25:13.029 --> 00:25:16.210
thing and yeah that's why that toxicology report's going to
538
00:25:16.250 --> 00:25:17.710
be so.
539
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:20.000
That's the part that's the part that still interests me
540
00:25:20.019 --> 00:25:23.940
because we never have ever got the toxicology report back
541
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:24.740
from hogan.
542
00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:29.299
Right well and that i believe the i mean i
543
00:25:29.900 --> 00:25:31.079
isn't that's.
544
00:25:30.859 --> 00:25:32.869
Still a mess The mess. Right.
545
00:25:33.190 --> 00:25:35.349
Because there's legal things. And the state of Florida is
546
00:25:35.569 --> 00:25:37.329
a little bit weird with a lot of that stuff too,
547
00:25:37.390 --> 00:25:38.970
I feel like, because of all the old people that
548
00:25:39.009 --> 00:25:40.059
live down there and stuff with it.
549
00:25:40.089 --> 00:25:41.130
But I don't know.
550
00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:44.210
I just feel like that's– I hate to say it,
551
00:25:44.230 --> 00:25:47.869
but it's like if they can afford to and suppress it,
552
00:25:47.890 --> 00:25:49.690
like they might try to pay to suppress it. I
553
00:25:49.710 --> 00:25:52.029
don't know. I don't know.
554
00:25:52.170 --> 00:25:54.390
I don't know about that. I think in this case,
555
00:25:54.470 --> 00:25:56.650
we'll get everything just because of Chicago.
556
00:25:57.490 --> 00:26:00.650
Right. Yeah. That's kind of what I think too. It's
557
00:26:00.670 --> 00:26:03.950
just– Yeah, the whole thing is just it's it's a
558
00:26:04.009 --> 00:26:05.789
terrible situation. But I mean.
559
00:26:05.809 --> 00:26:10.579
It doesn't it seems like that's what it is with it.
560
00:26:10.650 --> 00:26:14.869
I mean, obviously, there's also the speculation of that he's
561
00:26:14.930 --> 00:26:18.650
on the Brian Cage diet and we're not slandering Brian Cage.
562
00:26:18.690 --> 00:26:23.059
Brian Cage admitted to using PEDs like days before this
563
00:26:23.099 --> 00:26:26.049
happened and. I mean, if you just looked at him,
564
00:26:26.109 --> 00:26:28.650
he looks, I mean, yes, you can work out to
565
00:26:28.710 --> 00:26:30.630
get there with it. But even like we were talking
566
00:26:30.670 --> 00:26:33.410
about punk where he looks bigger and cut and defined,
567
00:26:33.779 --> 00:26:38.099
he's not rocking an eight pack and 2% body fat.
568
00:26:38.539 --> 00:26:43.140
You can get a prescription for PDDs. That's the thing.
569
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.599
I know when you, when you're in chat, when you,
570
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.900
and you're right to a point in the chat, when
571
00:26:48.940 --> 00:26:52.359
you said yesterday, you said random drug testing is the answer.
572
00:26:53.109 --> 00:26:54.509
That's not the answer. No, no.
573
00:26:54.910 --> 00:26:56.829
I put the answer in myself. I'm sorry. You said
574
00:26:56.869 --> 00:27:01.369
random drug testing is a good idea or something.
575
00:27:01.490 --> 00:27:01.869
It is.
576
00:27:01.930 --> 00:27:04.970
I agree with that to a point. And that's because
577
00:27:05.809 --> 00:27:10.319
nine times out of ten, you know ahead of time
578
00:27:10.339 --> 00:27:14.079
when the drug test will be. It leaks out. Right.
579
00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:16.240
Like even in places I've worked at, we've been told,
580
00:27:16.299 --> 00:27:17.299
you know, next week they're coming.
581
00:27:17.740 --> 00:27:18.599
Right, right, right. Okay.
582
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:21.980
Not as obvious as like when Triple H told Ric
583
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:24.750
Flair for his son that they're doing it tomorrow, have
584
00:27:24.769 --> 00:27:28.309
him clean. Not that obvious, but obvious nonetheless. Right. You
585
00:27:28.329 --> 00:27:32.029
know when it's coming. And then I've been through this too.
586
00:27:33.130 --> 00:27:36.839
When I went back to work, I told my HR
587
00:27:36.859 --> 00:27:40.119
department I'm prescribed pain medication.
588
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:40.700
Right.
589
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.480
So they know ahead of time. So I had a
590
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:47.039
piss test when I was there and I, test positive
591
00:27:47.059 --> 00:27:49.059
for opioids, but I'm not going to get fired because
592
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:49.700
I have a prescription.
593
00:27:50.019 --> 00:27:50.220
Right.
594
00:27:50.539 --> 00:27:51.000
Yeah. No.
595
00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:53.440
And that's, and that's how they can, they can check
596
00:27:53.500 --> 00:27:56.000
and confirm that the systems and the paperwork and everything
597
00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:56.420
with it.
598
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.170
Yeah. That's your, that's your way around that.
599
00:27:58.910 --> 00:28:03.369
Right. Well, if you're, but the thing is they can
600
00:28:03.410 --> 00:28:04.950
test for the specific one.
601
00:28:05.029 --> 00:28:06.069
And if you're coming up with.
602
00:28:06.150 --> 00:28:08.890
Yeah. And most people test like our, our work now
603
00:28:08.950 --> 00:28:12.160
tests for opioids, coke and nature.
604
00:28:12.769 --> 00:28:16.190
Right. But, but I know, but like, you can do like,
605
00:28:16.329 --> 00:28:18.599
there's different levels of tests where you could do like
606
00:28:18.619 --> 00:28:20.940
a five drug or 10 or whatever. And you can,
607
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.519
you can test for the specific one. That's the problem,
608
00:28:25.019 --> 00:28:27.940
you know? And that's what, you know, that's the, you know, the,
609
00:28:28.180 --> 00:28:29.680
the drug that starts with the letter F I'm still
610
00:28:29.700 --> 00:28:31.099
not trying to get us in trouble here with it,
611
00:28:31.339 --> 00:28:34.319
but that's, you can test for specific ones where it's like,
612
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:36.940
you know, cause you can take for like Benzos and every,
613
00:28:36.980 --> 00:28:40.829
every other different kind of one. And that's where, If
614
00:28:40.849 --> 00:28:43.970
you're doing random testing, and that specific one that starts
615
00:28:43.990 --> 00:28:47.589
with the letter F stays in your system way longer
616
00:28:47.809 --> 00:28:48.329
than others.
617
00:28:48.470 --> 00:28:50.009
It doesn't break down as quick.
618
00:28:50.349 --> 00:28:52.119
Yeah, so it's one of those things where even if
619
00:28:52.150 --> 00:28:54.720
you did know, like, hey, they're coming on Wednesday, and
620
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:58.339
it's Thursday or Friday, you might be able to get clean.
621
00:28:58.380 --> 00:29:02.519
But also, if you're addicted, you're going to go through
622
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:03.880
withdrawals during that time.
623
00:29:03.980 --> 00:29:05.599
Yeah, but you sacrifice that.
624
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:10.230
I've done this. Yeah, but I'm not sure– Can you though?
625
00:29:10.250 --> 00:29:12.349
Especially if you're working in the indies or whatever. I mean,
626
00:29:12.369 --> 00:29:13.279
it's just one of those things.
627
00:29:14.660 --> 00:29:15.099
Yeah.
628
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.259
I don't know. I just, the thing is, is all,
629
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.220
what I was saying about the random testing is my
630
00:29:20.259 --> 00:29:22.799
point was clearly they're not doing that. You know what
631
00:29:22.819 --> 00:29:24.539
I mean? Like that's yeah. Yeah.
632
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:26.180
And that's where changes are coming.
633
00:29:26.589 --> 00:29:29.250
Oh, they have to. And even, and shout out to
634
00:29:29.289 --> 00:29:32.019
dis and awful from yesterday as well, where they were saying, Like,
635
00:29:32.500 --> 00:29:34.000
and that's the thing too, is everybody, when you're talking
636
00:29:34.019 --> 00:29:34.619
about this, everyone's like.
637
00:29:34.660 --> 00:29:37.109
I'll be like, wow, you know, what about WWE and.
638
00:29:37.049 --> 00:29:40.259
Blah, blah, blah. They're no better. They just gotten. a
639
00:29:40.299 --> 00:29:42.619
place kind of like major league baseball where you got
640
00:29:42.660 --> 00:29:45.400
in trouble and like things were happening and you were
641
00:29:45.460 --> 00:29:47.500
forced to make changes to your policy.
642
00:29:47.579 --> 00:29:50.619
Yeah. Cause there's people, I'm sure there's people on WWE's
643
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:52.089
roster to take pain medication.
644
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:52.640
Sure.
645
00:29:52.910 --> 00:29:54.390
Sure. Yeah.
646
00:29:55.009 --> 00:29:55.710
Yeah, exactly.
647
00:29:55.829 --> 00:29:57.950
And it's just, it's one of those things where.
648
00:29:58.630 --> 00:30:02.559
You know, you've got to, Have a full on wellness
649
00:30:02.619 --> 00:30:06.660
policy around it where– a fully comprehensive wellness policy. That's
650
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:08.759
the phrase I was looking for. Where you've got to
651
00:30:08.819 --> 00:30:12.130
be able to– like if somebody is in trouble, then
652
00:30:12.170 --> 00:30:14.049
you have a system where they can go through the
653
00:30:14.089 --> 00:30:16.269
rehab and go through a detox and blah, blah, blah.
654
00:30:16.289 --> 00:30:18.559
Unless you get somebody like Moxley that actually admits to it.
655
00:30:18.910 --> 00:30:19.730
Right, right.
656
00:30:19.819 --> 00:30:20.819
Which is good for him.
657
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.880
Yeah. No, and we said that back when that happened,
658
00:30:23.900 --> 00:30:26.339
when initially it was a smarter– Like, you know, at
659
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:28.000
least he was able to take control of it. Now,
660
00:30:28.259 --> 00:30:33.500
from what I understand, it was because Renee was like, hey, exactly.
661
00:30:33.579 --> 00:30:35.240
Sometimes you got to get a full on kick in
662
00:30:35.259 --> 00:30:38.099
the ass to really make it known. And I know
663
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:42.589
the WWE policy actually also extends to like anybody who
664
00:30:42.769 --> 00:30:44.869
ever worked for them. I know you don't watch Dark
665
00:30:44.890 --> 00:30:47.289
Side of the Ring, but the Zach Gowen episode after
666
00:30:47.329 --> 00:30:50.710
he got released. He went through a major drug issue
667
00:30:51.210 --> 00:30:52.690
and you know, it was at the point where he
668
00:30:52.750 --> 00:30:57.509
couldn't get clean and his mom called WWE and they
669
00:30:57.549 --> 00:30:59.470
got him into the rehab and he's been clean ever
670
00:30:59.539 --> 00:31:01.819
since and all that kind of stuff. But it's just
671
00:31:01.900 --> 00:31:05.599
one of those things where I, and I know Tony
672
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:06.859
and I've heard people say that they.
673
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.819
Do have some sort of policy. I don't believe that.
674
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.339
Like, I really don't like, cause we've seen, I mean,
675
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:16.970
I hate to say it too, but like, that's why
676
00:31:17.029 --> 00:31:20.710
Andrade left WWE because he had the, you know, for,
677
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:23.259
I think it was PEDs and then just went right
678
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:24.079
to AEW.
679
00:31:24.140 --> 00:31:25.759
It's like, I, I guess he could have.
680
00:31:25.700 --> 00:31:28.759
Gotten clean during that 90 days off, but.
681
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:32.440
It's also possible. They don't care about PEDs.
682
00:31:32.460 --> 00:31:32.700
Right.
683
00:31:32.900 --> 00:31:34.579
Yeah, exactly. Which is terrible.
684
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:38.079
Cause that's the thing too, is PEDs will lead to
685
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:42.009
the painkillers because I mean the PEDs, like, yes, it
686
00:31:42.029 --> 00:31:43.329
can help you heal a muscle.
687
00:31:43.349 --> 00:31:45.089
It helps your muscle heals or whatever. But once you
688
00:31:45.109 --> 00:31:48.029
get too big, you start to have like those ligament issues,
689
00:31:48.089 --> 00:31:50.170
you know? I mean, that's why Mark McGuire retired when
690
00:31:50.190 --> 00:31:52.400
he did. Cause there's like, he couldn't keep, I think
691
00:31:52.420 --> 00:31:55.160
it was his elbow or your ligament snap because you
692
00:31:55.180 --> 00:31:57.140
got too much weight muscle on there.
693
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.920
And your heart, your heart can't, your heart can't.
694
00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:01.140
Yeah.
695
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:02.119
Your heart takes a beating.
696
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:02.960
Right.
697
00:32:02.980 --> 00:32:06.150
I mean, pain medication, my heart, you can tell your
698
00:32:06.210 --> 00:32:12.470
heartbeat gets more speedier, but the PEDs really pick it up.
699
00:32:12.710 --> 00:32:14.349
And that's the problem. Right.
700
00:32:14.650 --> 00:32:18.279
And that's the thing where, again, that toxicology point, if
701
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.019
it comes back, like, let's say it comes.
702
00:32:19.900 --> 00:32:25.119
Back with F and with PEDs. And I mean, who knows?
703
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.339
It could also have, there could have been other things
704
00:32:27.420 --> 00:32:29.000
mixed in, you know, it could have had a fun,
705
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.440
he could have had a fun night out in Chicago
706
00:32:31.869 --> 00:32:33.569
and then never went to sleep.
707
00:32:33.630 --> 00:32:34.430
You know what I mean?
708
00:32:34.509 --> 00:32:36.230
And then that also vestiges with your body.
709
00:32:36.250 --> 00:32:40.390
The timeframe is interesting because the timeframe is there. It's
710
00:32:40.430 --> 00:32:43.109
like four o'clock and at four he's pronounced passed away.
711
00:32:43.170 --> 00:32:43.349
Yeah.
712
00:32:43.809 --> 00:32:48.089
Yeah. So my again, my initial thought was he was
713
00:32:48.150 --> 00:32:50.210
driving and didn't feel well and just kind of yanked
714
00:32:50.230 --> 00:32:51.809
it over. And then that was it.
715
00:32:52.150 --> 00:32:53.779
So, yeah, I mean, it could have been.
716
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:56.019
And like I said, the thing is, with that being
717
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:59.039
like four o'clock to, you know, the show didn't end
718
00:32:59.099 --> 00:32:59.640
till what?
719
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.319
Like one, two in the morning.
720
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:03.779
He's going to the airport because the airport's close to
721
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:06.960
the restaurant. So, yeah, he's going for the flight out.
722
00:33:07.490 --> 00:33:07.710
Right.
723
00:33:07.730 --> 00:33:10.059
But if it's, I mean, but was it four in
724
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:11.259
the morning or four in the evening?
725
00:33:11.299 --> 00:33:12.539
Four in the afternoon. Yeah.
726
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.140
So, I mean like, so you, so you had the
727
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.880
night in Chicago easily could have gone to, you know,
728
00:33:17.980 --> 00:33:18.400
under the.
729
00:33:18.380 --> 00:33:21.009
Bridge and the South side or whatever and.
730
00:33:21.450 --> 00:33:23.750
Pick stuff up. Like there's a lot of different things.
731
00:33:23.829 --> 00:33:28.009
It could be, unfortunately, none of it is good for
732
00:33:28.069 --> 00:33:29.910
Tony and AEW.
733
00:33:29.950 --> 00:33:32.440
And that's, and that's the problem that I've got.
734
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:34.880
With a lot of this stuff. It's like, it just
735
00:33:34.900 --> 00:33:38.500
feels that this was completely preventable and that's going to
736
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:40.819
cause some sort of, and honestly, like, yeah, he might
737
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.299
be paying the family and they're saying the right things now,
738
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:49.299
but unless they've signed legal documentation, they could easily, you know,
739
00:33:49.380 --> 00:33:51.900
he could easily see a lawsuit with it. Also too,
740
00:33:52.869 --> 00:33:54.990
they're from the UK. So there could be a different
741
00:33:55.009 --> 00:33:56.950
way of going about it there that we don't know,
742
00:33:57.009 --> 00:33:59.730
but their magistrates and everything like this is, this is
743
00:33:59.750 --> 00:34:01.950
going to be an ongoing story for a while. And
744
00:34:01.990 --> 00:34:05.480
it's just the worst that it gets. And I'm not
745
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.639
trying to be mean here or be a tribalist. It's
746
00:34:08.699 --> 00:34:12.119
not this at all. How much is Shad going to
747
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:13.840
let Tony keep paying for this?
748
00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:15.590
This one will scoot by. This one's fine.
749
00:34:16.250 --> 00:34:16.710
Is it though?
750
00:34:16.730 --> 00:34:18.219
They're not going to get sued. They're not.
751
00:34:18.309 --> 00:34:21.130
I know. But if they get drugged through the papers
752
00:34:21.190 --> 00:34:22.610
and the court of public opinion.
753
00:34:22.750 --> 00:34:26.039
And they're going to say we updated our policy and blah, blah, blah,
754
00:34:26.059 --> 00:34:28.179
and this and that. They'll work their way out of it.
755
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.400
In this case. Yeah, I just.
756
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.579
Thought of Shadwell. I mean, Shad might be like, because
757
00:34:34.659 --> 00:34:38.960
if Shad starts getting questions from the NFL media or,
758
00:34:39.139 --> 00:34:41.909
God forbid, Roger Goodell, like, what's going on with your kid?
759
00:34:42.630 --> 00:34:45.550
I could just see him being, because it's hemorrhaging money.
760
00:34:45.690 --> 00:34:48.989
Like, I don't care what Dave says. They are hemorrhaging money.
761
00:34:49.010 --> 00:34:53.260
You know, and they've never made a dime in eight
762
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:54.960
years now, seven years, whatever.
763
00:34:54.980 --> 00:34:56.159
They don't care. They don't care.
764
00:34:56.909 --> 00:34:58.610
Tony doesn't care.
765
00:35:00.130 --> 00:35:02.570
If Shad cared, he would have done something by now.
766
00:35:03.329 --> 00:35:05.869
I think it's just kind of like he keeps Tony
767
00:35:05.909 --> 00:35:07.969
busy so he lets it go. But the problem is
768
00:35:08.030 --> 00:35:11.199
once you get bad press, then is it let it go?
769
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.579
That's where I think it gets a little bit different.
770
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:17.539
This all will go back.
771
00:35:18.139 --> 00:35:22.960
Unfortunately, it goes back to pack. That's what they'll say.
772
00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:26.230
We game a test. I don't know what they're going
773
00:35:26.250 --> 00:35:29.320
to say. They're going to end up– they're not going
774
00:35:29.340 --> 00:35:30.159
to say it's our fault.
775
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:33.599
They're not, but will the reporters?
776
00:35:33.659 --> 00:35:35.679
Will somebody from investigative journalism?
777
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.170
I don't know. You might be right, but I could.
778
00:35:38.090 --> 00:35:40.389
I mean if I'm at work and I'm addicted to
779
00:35:40.429 --> 00:35:42.289
pain medication, is it not the work's fault I ran
780
00:35:42.309 --> 00:35:44.590
into the frigging– took the forklift into the wall?
781
00:35:46.010 --> 00:35:48.849
No, but if they enabled it. Like that's the thing.
782
00:35:49.269 --> 00:35:53.179
Yeah, enabling. You can't– I can't give Tony that burden.
783
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.610
Yeah, I can't. I can't yet. But if it comes
784
00:35:56.710 --> 00:35:58.829
out through the, like I said, if somebody does investigative
785
00:35:58.869 --> 00:36:02.489
reporting and it comes to, there's text messages or whatever,
786
00:36:02.630 --> 00:36:03.989
I don't know. It's just, it's. Yeah.
787
00:36:04.010 --> 00:36:06.630
If it comes out where Peck is like, Hey, I
788
00:36:06.690 --> 00:36:08.590
need something. Can you go to the store for me, Tony?
789
00:36:08.610 --> 00:36:10.550
And he comes back and it's him. That's a different
790
00:36:10.570 --> 00:36:13.019
story altogether. That's totally different.
791
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:13.800
Yes. Right.
792
00:36:13.900 --> 00:36:17.079
But Tony just plays ignorant and doesn't know anything. Like
793
00:36:17.099 --> 00:36:18.519
he's always seems to do.
794
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.519
Yeah. But if somebody like saw it happen, like let's
795
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.349
say somebody saw him, chopping him up and snorting him
796
00:36:26.389 --> 00:36:28.869
or eating him in the locker room or in a
797
00:36:28.889 --> 00:36:31.190
bathroom or whatever, and somebody says it to Tony, and
798
00:36:31.210 --> 00:36:32.710
he's like, and he doesn't do it.
799
00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:34.730
If he's too afraid to do anything about it, then
800
00:36:34.809 --> 00:36:35.190
I don't know.
801
00:36:35.590 --> 00:36:38.130
Yeah, it's tough to prove.
802
00:36:38.570 --> 00:36:41.780
Unless there's text messages. Text messages are forever.
803
00:36:41.860 --> 00:36:47.159
Who is text messaging that, though? Even when I was majorly...
804
00:36:46.940 --> 00:36:49.199
I would never say something like that. It would always
805
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:49.739
be coded.
806
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.750
Yeah, but....
807
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.659
I mean, you see it happen a lot where people,
808
00:36:55.739 --> 00:36:56.690
I mean, like what was it?
809
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.840
The Chris Hansen stuff, there's text messages, you know, I'm
810
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:03.079
just saying there's, I'm everything's on the table until it's
811
00:37:03.219 --> 00:37:06.559
not at this point. And that's, and that's why it's
812
00:37:06.579 --> 00:37:10.389
hard to really have a deep dive conversation because it's speculation.
813
00:37:10.489 --> 00:37:13.590
It's just, you don't know what's going to happen.
814
00:37:13.710 --> 00:37:16.969
I don't know. It's just, and it, I find it.
815
00:37:16.989 --> 00:37:20.150
Hard to believe that it would have gone under, if
816
00:37:20.190 --> 00:37:22.780
it's as bad as it could have, if it's that bad,
817
00:37:22.820 --> 00:37:24.340
I feel like it's hard to believe that it was
818
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:26.840
completely off of Tony's radar.
819
00:37:26.900 --> 00:37:29.219
A person can hide it. Dude, I hid it for
820
00:37:29.219 --> 00:37:29.699
10 years.
821
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.320
Yeah, but when you're traveling, when you're in a locker
822
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.719
room with a bunch of people, I get it. It's easy, dude.
823
00:37:35.780 --> 00:37:39.550
It's easy. You'd be surprised. Drug addicts are drug addicts
824
00:37:39.590 --> 00:37:40.289
for a reason.
825
00:37:40.849 --> 00:37:41.110
Right.
826
00:37:41.530 --> 00:37:45.800
Because we're very self-centered. We're very self-centered. Just do whatever
827
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.260
I got to do at the time. Different now, of course.
828
00:37:48.860 --> 00:37:52.440
And you don't care. Nobody knew.
829
00:37:54.139 --> 00:37:54.500
Maybe.
830
00:37:54.900 --> 00:37:57.099
People working next to me didn't know. My wife didn't
831
00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:58.340
know until she did know.
832
00:37:58.780 --> 00:38:04.980
Right. It's one of those things where we got to
833
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.429
see where it comes out with it because they could have.
834
00:38:08.590 --> 00:38:11.489
Or again, that's where I was saying if they just
835
00:38:11.530 --> 00:38:14.349
had a random testing policy for folks, you just.
836
00:38:15.590 --> 00:38:17.590
Clearly there wasn't, and that's an.
837
00:38:17.989 --> 00:38:20.480
Issue where they should have– that's where I get kind
838
00:38:20.500 --> 00:38:24.260
of just– it's an athletic endeavor. There should be that, but.
839
00:38:24.539 --> 00:38:26.480
And he might have tested positive for opioids, and he
840
00:38:26.500 --> 00:38:28.769
would have shown a prescription. That's all, and that would
841
00:38:28.789 --> 00:38:29.469
have been done right there.
842
00:38:30.409 --> 00:38:33.750
It was fentanyl you know you're.
843
00:38:32.829 --> 00:38:34.829
Just saying yeah if.
844
00:38:34.789 --> 00:38:37.409
You're buying that off because because you're not getting a prescription.
845
00:38:37.050 --> 00:38:39.639
For that unless you've had like major surgery.
846
00:38:39.260 --> 00:38:41.440
And a major thing like doctors don't want to give
847
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:45.619
that unless like that's administered under a doctor's supervision and
848
00:38:45.699 --> 00:38:49.300
i know pack and also too like i know that's
849
00:38:49.340 --> 00:38:52.400
always said it's been visa issues because remember he disappears
850
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.360
from time to time like yes if that's something where he,
851
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.440
if it comes out where he'd gone into like a
852
00:38:57.820 --> 00:39:00.059
paid rehab or something and then came back and they
853
00:39:00.099 --> 00:39:02.739
weren't monitoring, I don't know. Like I just, there's a
854
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:06.719
lot of different things in play here. And the bottom
855
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.000
line is it wasn't that car accident that they thought
856
00:39:09.019 --> 00:39:12.820
it could be. And that's now I do think that
857
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.619
I don't know if it'll happen before this Tuesday, but
858
00:39:15.699 --> 00:39:18.599
I know once that news does come out, dis awful.
859
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:20.619
And I will have a hell of a conversation.
860
00:39:20.699 --> 00:39:20.900
Yeah.
861
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.969
I mean, Yeah, it's going to take a bit.
862
00:39:25.420 --> 00:39:26.019
Right, right.
863
00:39:26.059 --> 00:39:28.070
But sometimes they don't take too, too long.
864
00:39:28.090 --> 00:39:32.480
This one just took a while. You're probably right to
865
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.019
lay it out. It's yeah, no, it's going to be
866
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.960
a very interesting time. And, you know, all of this too,
867
00:39:38.980 --> 00:39:42.460
we're not saying this to be disrespectful or just being real.
868
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:44.980
Like it's a real, it's a real open and honest
869
00:39:45.019 --> 00:39:48.659
conversation that needs to be had. And, Fortunately, it doesn't
870
00:39:48.699 --> 00:39:50.820
seem like they were caring too much about it or
871
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.380
doing too much under the AEW umbrella.
872
00:39:53.420 --> 00:39:55.119
But maybe they were with it. Maybe he was able
873
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:55.699
to get clean.
874
00:39:55.980 --> 00:39:57.960
Maybe they didn't have somebody watching and he bought like
875
00:39:58.489 --> 00:40:00.719
he bought like the fake pee or whatever. You know,
876
00:40:00.739 --> 00:40:02.489
there's a lot of different things that could have been.
877
00:40:02.510 --> 00:40:06.730
I'm just saying if he's if he's was in the
878
00:40:06.750 --> 00:40:10.130
pain that they said and was taking like people think
879
00:40:10.150 --> 00:40:13.880
he was. And I understand it completely. I totally get it.
880
00:40:14.150 --> 00:40:15.449
I've been there. Right.
881
00:40:15.750 --> 00:40:18.789
If your prescription runs out and you're out of town,
882
00:40:19.300 --> 00:40:21.460
you're not in your normal spot. You're in Chicago.
883
00:40:21.699 --> 00:40:21.900
Right.
884
00:40:22.500 --> 00:40:25.730
You have to rely on somebody you might know to
885
00:40:25.769 --> 00:40:29.519
get something you might need. Right. it might get the
886
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.239
wrong thing. That's what I thought.
887
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:31.570
Yeah.
888
00:40:31.590 --> 00:40:34.289
And I thought Tom Petty immediately, cause he wasn't home.
889
00:40:34.309 --> 00:40:35.070
He was on the road.
890
00:40:35.090 --> 00:40:36.130
Yeah.
891
00:40:36.210 --> 00:40:37.570
Same fucking thing.
892
00:40:37.750 --> 00:40:38.010
Yup.
893
00:40:38.190 --> 00:40:39.489
Same thing. Yup.
894
00:40:39.789 --> 00:40:42.010
And, and, and it's, and it's one of those things
895
00:40:42.030 --> 00:40:43.349
where it doesn't discriminate.
896
00:40:43.510 --> 00:40:46.469
You know, it just, it, it can get anybody, no
897
00:40:46.489 --> 00:40:48.429
matter how famous or rich or.
898
00:40:48.969 --> 00:40:51.610
Yeah. And again, we didn't know, we didn't know Tom
899
00:40:51.659 --> 00:40:54.599
Petty was on pain medication.
900
00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:55.159
Right.
901
00:40:56.300 --> 00:41:00.059
Again, it's hidden so easily. That's the thing people don't understand.
902
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.730
It can be hidden so easily from people. I did
903
00:41:03.769 --> 00:41:08.289
it for close to 10 years. I was five or six.
904
00:41:08.489 --> 00:41:13.389
Close enough. I hid it from people, family, my wife
905
00:41:13.429 --> 00:41:16.760
at the time. I say at the time because when
906
00:41:16.780 --> 00:41:18.360
she found out, she no longer was with me.
907
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:19.280
There you go.
908
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.019
That's when my bottom part popped out and I had
909
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:28.130
to get help. But until that point, nobody knew. Nobody knew.
910
00:41:28.449 --> 00:41:31.210
And I asked afterwards, did you guys see anything? No,
911
00:41:31.250 --> 00:41:33.179
we couldn't tell. Nobody knew.
912
00:41:33.949 --> 00:41:37.719
Right. Well, that's also a thing, too, especially in the
913
00:41:37.780 --> 00:41:40.380
real world where you're not doing athletic endeavors where you
914
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:44.119
could be getting injured or whatever. It's not something someone's
915
00:41:44.139 --> 00:41:46.059
going to think about. You know what I mean? With
916
00:41:46.099 --> 00:41:49.360
a regular person, whether it's your spouse or a co-worker,
917
00:41:50.539 --> 00:41:55.260
in a non-physical endeavor, in wrestling... I feel like there's
918
00:41:55.300 --> 00:41:57.619
a little bit more of that window being open where
919
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.280
you think that because we've seen it countless times where
920
00:42:01.300 --> 00:42:04.789
guys have had issues, especially not as much recently because
921
00:42:04.809 --> 00:42:07.130
there has been way more testing in WWE and they
922
00:42:07.170 --> 00:42:09.710
have the wellness policy where you can get help if
923
00:42:09.730 --> 00:42:12.050
you're in the issue. But I mean, how many wrestlers
924
00:42:12.070 --> 00:42:16.070
have we seen die? I mean, due to Mr. Perfect.
925
00:42:16.090 --> 00:42:21.940
The problem becomes it might get semi better, but it's
926
00:42:22.019 --> 00:42:25.150
never going to be completed. better right it's never never
927
00:42:25.170 --> 00:42:28.230
going to happen no because again addicts are addicts for
928
00:42:28.250 --> 00:42:31.269
a reason yeah and they hide and you just don't
929
00:42:31.309 --> 00:42:34.880
know so they can test all they want and it's
930
00:42:35.019 --> 00:42:37.860
never going to be 100 it just can't yeah.
931
00:42:37.940 --> 00:42:42.179
No oh yeah no it's just um yeah and it's
932
00:42:42.579 --> 00:42:46.469
it's i just it i i would be hard pressed
933
00:42:46.510 --> 00:42:49.250
to find myself believing that they were testing in aw
934
00:42:49.329 --> 00:42:51.559
at all I just really don't think there was.
935
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.579
I mean, I know Tony has said there was, but
936
00:42:53.619 --> 00:42:54.179
he says a lot.
937
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:56.539
He also says they're on their greatest run of shows
938
00:42:56.579 --> 00:42:58.929
when they've had like five crappy shows in a row. So,
939
00:42:58.949 --> 00:43:01.090
you know, you know, it's one of those things where
940
00:43:01.110 --> 00:43:02.949
we're going.
941
00:43:02.849 --> 00:43:04.389
To have to see where the legal stuff comes out
942
00:43:04.429 --> 00:43:04.650
with it.
943
00:43:04.650 --> 00:43:07.829
And I could easily see some investigative reporter thinking that
944
00:43:07.849 --> 00:43:10.650
this is a big story, mostly because it leads up
945
00:43:10.710 --> 00:43:12.949
to an NFL owner, you know, and trying to find
946
00:43:13.010 --> 00:43:16.159
out what happened with it and, I don't know. It's
947
00:43:16.179 --> 00:43:18.559
going to be very interesting to see how this shakes
948
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:19.579
out throughout the rest of the year.
949
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.719
I think Tony, even though we all think somehow he's stupid,
950
00:43:23.949 --> 00:43:26.170
I think he's very smart when it comes to this stuff.
951
00:43:26.610 --> 00:43:30.530
Oh, no. Like I said, I think he's very smart
952
00:43:30.570 --> 00:43:32.510
in certain areas and certain things with it. I just
953
00:43:32.530 --> 00:43:34.800
don't think he's got a lot of street smarts and
954
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:36.900
common sense. No, he's none of that.
955
00:43:36.940 --> 00:43:37.059
Right.
956
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:38.980
And that comes from being a child of a billionaire
957
00:43:39.019 --> 00:43:42.159
your whole life, like I've said before. You know, your teachers,
958
00:43:43.070 --> 00:43:45.030
your friends, parents, no one was going to say no
959
00:43:45.070 --> 00:43:47.869
to you because you're the richest kid in school or whatever.
960
00:43:48.050 --> 00:43:52.690
Go ahead. Well, that can also make you think that
961
00:43:52.710 --> 00:43:54.829
you can get away with anything, too, where you're just like,
962
00:43:54.869 --> 00:43:57.110
it's not going to affect me. Like, you know that
963
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.860
something's bad, but you're like, I'm not worried about it
964
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:01.420
because it's not going to affect me.
965
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.780
You already get.
966
00:44:03.699 --> 00:44:06.769
Out of it. exactly exactly you've always been able to
967
00:44:06.829 --> 00:44:08.389
pay your way out of with it or just how
968
00:44:08.409 --> 00:44:10.590
many you know yeah just how many people in the
969
00:44:10.630 --> 00:44:12.789
world were they were you see it where like i
970
00:44:12.849 --> 00:44:15.530
didn't think it would happen to me in any situation
971
00:44:15.570 --> 00:44:17.550
i'm just talking about stuff like this just oh i
972
00:44:17.570 --> 00:44:19.179
didn't think it would happen to me or like people
973
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.199
you don't think people don't think they're gonna die in
974
00:44:21.219 --> 00:44:23.159
a car accident and they do and it's just uh
975
00:44:23.179 --> 00:44:25.860
i don't know it's gonna be very incredible and that's
976
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.329
why the tribute show they've definitely just they made it
977
00:44:30.389 --> 00:44:32.679
about Pac and his life and the career and stuff.
978
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.860
But the whole time I was watching, I was just,
979
00:44:35.940 --> 00:44:39.019
it was in the back of my mind of like, man,
980
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:41.539
whatever this comes out to being is going to, it's just,
981
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:43.980
I don't know. It just, it just gives me the
982
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.280
heebie jeebies about it. I, cause that's the thing is
983
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.440
I don't want to see the company fail. Like Tony
984
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.719
bothers me and he pisses me off with the decision
985
00:44:50.739 --> 00:44:53.190
that he makes sometimes with it. But I like the
986
00:44:53.250 --> 00:44:55.849
idea of there being on secondary wrestling company. I just
987
00:44:55.869 --> 00:44:58.500
wish they would, focus on being themselves and being the
988
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:00.960
best product they can be in the best alternative they
989
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.989
can be. Instead of we've got to compete with WWE.
990
00:45:04.030 --> 00:45:06.570
I mean, if I didn't see the entire press conference,
991
00:45:06.610 --> 00:45:08.550
but I watched all of Will Ospreay's bit. And the
992
00:45:08.690 --> 00:45:11.630
first thing he talks about is, oh, well, everybody who
993
00:45:11.650 --> 00:45:13.550
came here tonight chose the right company.
994
00:45:13.590 --> 00:45:15.139
Like, don't worry about that.
995
00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:16.739
Just be like, man, I'm so thankful that we sold
996
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.139
the building out tonight and be happy and move forward,
997
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.480
you know? And then everyone's like, oh, well, but WWE
998
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:26.650
talk crap about WCF. Because there was an actual war.
999
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.219
They were very close. They were basically both the same
1000
00:45:30.260 --> 00:45:34.860
style of product and getting a similar amount of views.
1001
00:45:35.059 --> 00:45:37.079
It's not where this is at this point, and they
1002
00:45:37.099 --> 00:45:41.010
should focus on themselves, but it's what it is. I
1003
00:45:41.050 --> 00:45:43.349
don't know. It's going to be very interesting to see
1004
00:45:43.369 --> 00:45:45.769
how this comes out.
1005
00:45:46.110 --> 00:45:49.010
I think you're going to get 90% of the story.
1006
00:45:49.030 --> 00:45:52.449
I think there'll be some parts that you were not
1007
00:45:52.469 --> 00:45:52.800
going to see.
1008
00:45:53.210 --> 00:46:00.360
Probably, especially if his family is okay in the sense
1009
00:46:00.380 --> 00:46:03.260
where they're not looking for revenge or looking to get
1010
00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:05.539
anybody out of it, they can hold. Because it's going
1011
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.579
to be up to them with what gets released on
1012
00:46:07.619 --> 00:46:08.440
a lot of that stuff.
1013
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.719
Yeah, I have also a strange feeling that, like I said,
1014
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.889
Tony was already there, took care of things, maybe an
1015
00:46:14.969 --> 00:46:16.630
NDA or two were signed, who knows.
1016
00:46:16.650 --> 00:46:21.900
Yeah, I mean... yeah especially and and that's a terrible
1017
00:46:21.940 --> 00:46:23.619
thing too you think about but like when people are
1018
00:46:23.659 --> 00:46:26.969
super distraught you hear them like not they were taken
1019
00:46:27.010 --> 00:46:30.630
advantage of but they could have been in a sense
1020
00:46:30.650 --> 00:46:33.190
where like here sign this take this money and shush
1021
00:46:33.250 --> 00:46:36.389
and go away and like they're happy they're not thinking
1022
00:46:36.409 --> 00:46:38.500
in the right mindset and i'm sure he did offer
1023
00:46:38.579 --> 00:46:40.420
it's like they offered him a smaller sum and they
1024
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.079
try to undercut i'm sure it's a large sum but
1025
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:49.800
yeah Still, yeah. But also, too, are those NDAs international? Like,
1026
00:46:49.900 --> 00:46:51.719
is it something where, yeah, in the States you can't
1027
00:46:51.739 --> 00:46:52.300
get sued?
1028
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.639
Again, Tony and Shad's lawyers get paid a lot of
1029
00:46:55.659 --> 00:46:56.900
good money to do what they do.
1030
00:46:57.860 --> 00:46:58.869
Shad's lawyers do.
1031
00:46:58.909 --> 00:47:01.710
We've seen that Tony's lawyers might not always be the best.
1032
00:47:02.989 --> 00:47:06.989
But Shad's, yes. And that's where I keep thinking, too.
1033
00:47:07.190 --> 00:47:10.050
Because I don't think that this story would pull down
1034
00:47:10.130 --> 00:47:13.800
AEW and shut them down forever. because of them getting
1035
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.179
sued or whatever. I could just see Shad being like,
1036
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.449
this is a black eye on me. I'm getting asked
1037
00:47:19.610 --> 00:47:23.190
in my NFL press conferences when I sign a new
1038
00:47:23.269 --> 00:47:26.269
coach or sign a new player or whatever. I'm getting
1039
00:47:26.369 --> 00:47:29.449
asked about my son's wrestling company and who died. I
1040
00:47:31.070 --> 00:47:33.909
don't know. I put my hands up. We'll see.
1041
00:47:34.449 --> 00:47:37.150
Like I said, I think they'll make this one through okay.
1042
00:47:38.570 --> 00:47:40.340
but changes got to be made.
1043
00:47:40.659 --> 00:47:42.559
Oh, that, that I'll say as long as the, you're right.
1044
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.820
As long as they're making drastic and massive changes and
1045
00:47:45.860 --> 00:47:48.739
let's see in three to six months, if Brian cage
1046
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.960
is no longer in bodybuilding competitions and like, you know,
1047
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.699
like we said, Kenny Omega looks as best as he can,
1048
00:47:55.780 --> 00:47:57.500
but what if, you know, if he's, if he starts
1049
00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.900
looking more like Jericho, it's just not, not Jericho now,
1050
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.219
but like Jericho, the Jericho appreciation society, chubby Jericho, you
1051
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:05.980
know what I mean? Like there's what we will see.
1052
00:48:06.260 --> 00:48:09.269
We will see. Or maybe guys will have to take
1053
00:48:09.289 --> 00:48:11.369
the money that we're spending on wine and then get
1054
00:48:11.409 --> 00:48:15.590
a really good nutritionist and work it out differently. I
1055
00:48:15.630 --> 00:48:17.949
don't know. But yeah, there's got to be sweeping.
1056
00:48:17.590 --> 00:48:21.760
And massive changes. You can find PEDs that are– you
1057
00:48:21.780 --> 00:48:22.920
get a prescription for them.
1058
00:48:22.980 --> 00:48:23.400
That's all.
1059
00:48:25.460 --> 00:48:26.519
It's just the way it is.
1060
00:48:26.739 --> 00:48:28.159
Right, but not the amount.
1061
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.860
Not the amount. No, no. But you can take– again,
1062
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:34.179
you get a prescription. You can abuse the prescription. It's
1063
00:48:34.300 --> 00:48:37.909
how things work. It's just weird. It's strange.
1064
00:48:38.530 --> 00:48:39.429
Yeah, no, you're right.
1065
00:48:39.670 --> 00:48:40.090
You're right.
1066
00:48:42.690 --> 00:48:44.650
And maybe we're going to find out that there's a,
1067
00:48:44.909 --> 00:48:45.469
what was it?
1068
00:48:45.489 --> 00:48:45.969
Zahorian?
1069
00:48:46.030 --> 00:48:48.409
Like there's an AEW version of Dr.
1070
00:48:48.449 --> 00:48:51.389
Zahorian. Like we don't know. It's just going to be
1071
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.710
very interesting to see, but I think you nailed it.
1072
00:48:54.739 --> 00:48:57.300
I think it's probably, if it is painkillers, I think
1073
00:48:57.340 --> 00:49:01.460
that's what happened where he had an addiction. He wrestled
1074
00:49:01.500 --> 00:49:03.780
his ass off on Saturday night and was hurting and
1075
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.079
You know, maybe he brought as much as he thought
1076
00:49:06.099 --> 00:49:08.699
he needed and was running low and maybe had like
1077
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.260
a seven o'clock flight and was like, I got to
1078
00:49:11.300 --> 00:49:12.650
get I got to be able to get through that
1079
00:49:12.710 --> 00:49:14.489
flight to get home. So I'm not puking in the
1080
00:49:14.510 --> 00:49:18.010
bathroom or whatever, you know, was told where to go.
1081
00:49:18.070 --> 00:49:21.000
Called a person and takes the wrong one and.
1082
00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:24.659
It also too like you said where you know if
1083
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:26.840
you're in that situation you're not just taking one or
1084
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:30.739
two you know you're taking multiples and you're probably not
1085
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.159
just swallowing them you're probably i'm not saying he was
1086
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.280
shooting up but i'm saying probably was sorting them that's
1087
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:36.789
usually how that works and.
1088
00:49:36.670 --> 00:49:38.690
That's that's tough to do you brother you're better off
1089
00:49:38.730 --> 00:49:44.889
chewing maybe because that stuff those those things kill your
1090
00:49:44.929 --> 00:49:47.579
night nasal passages Yeah.
1091
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:48.480
You're right.
1092
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:49.579
I tried, I tried it once.
1093
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.159
I get you. Um, but just, it depends on the
1094
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.280
person and where it was and maybe how quickly you need,
1095
00:49:57.300 --> 00:49:59.980
like if he was already starting to go into a withdrawal,
1096
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:01.679
like I could see it just being like, fuck, I
1097
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:02.400
gotta get, you.
1098
00:50:02.340 --> 00:50:03.429
Know, you hear that too.
1099
00:50:03.469 --> 00:50:07.090
Sometimes when people, um, like people that got clean and
1100
00:50:07.130 --> 00:50:10.170
then relapse where, you know, they take one or two
1101
00:50:10.230 --> 00:50:12.829
in the relapse and then it's, it's the wrong thing
1102
00:50:12.909 --> 00:50:14.730
or their body's not ready or whatever.
1103
00:50:14.829 --> 00:50:17.079
Like there's, There's so many scenarios.
1104
00:50:17.099 --> 00:50:19.139
People that relapse think they can take the same amount
1105
00:50:19.179 --> 00:50:19.889
they did prior.
1106
00:50:20.469 --> 00:50:22.570
Right. And if they were taking a ton.
1107
00:50:22.590 --> 00:50:25.570
Like I was taking, okay, I was taking four before.
1108
00:50:25.630 --> 00:50:27.929
I should take four now. Four now would knock you
1109
00:50:27.949 --> 00:50:28.469
in your ass.
1110
00:50:28.889 --> 00:50:30.150
Right. Exactly.
1111
00:50:30.190 --> 00:50:31.889
That's a problem.
1112
00:50:32.389 --> 00:50:34.190
Or it's kind of like a gummy where they'll take
1113
00:50:34.329 --> 00:50:35.849
two and it's like, it's not hitting. So I got
1114
00:50:35.869 --> 00:50:36.530
to take two more.
1115
00:50:36.789 --> 00:50:38.590
And if they had just waited 15 minutes, they'd have
1116
00:50:38.610 --> 00:50:39.030
been fine.
1117
00:50:39.389 --> 00:50:42.949
Right. Yeah. No. And that's where you just don't know.
1118
00:50:43.130 --> 00:50:45.579
And that's where... And also too, I haven't heard, I
1119
00:50:45.619 --> 00:50:47.039
saw somebody in the chat post it. And as I
1120
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:49.139
don't remember what it was, but somebody has like, was,
1121
00:50:49.260 --> 00:50:49.739
what was that?
1122
00:50:49.780 --> 00:50:51.400
What was found in his car? I don't think we've
1123
00:50:51.420 --> 00:50:52.539
heard anything about that yet.
1124
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:52.920
Was there.
1125
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:54.099
Cause it's under investigation.
1126
00:50:54.139 --> 00:50:55.219
Right. Right. Yeah. Was there.
1127
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:55.320
Yeah.
1128
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:57.340
And what that's going to be interesting of what they
1129
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.469
find in there is their remnants. Was there.
1130
00:51:01.769 --> 00:51:03.309
Oh yeah.
1131
00:51:03.429 --> 00:51:06.469
Oh no. And that stuff will come out like the
1132
00:51:06.530 --> 00:51:10.429
corner report, the doctor or the police investigation. Like, cause
1133
00:51:10.489 --> 00:51:12.780
legally that's going to have to come out. And if
1134
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.599
it doesn't, Freedom of Information Act, someone can do that too.
1135
00:51:15.619 --> 00:51:18.840
You know what I mean? It's one of those things
1136
00:51:18.860 --> 00:51:21.179
where you could get a FOIA on them and we'll see.
1137
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:22.639
I don't know, man.
1138
00:51:23.170 --> 00:51:25.449
Again, if you're going through any issues, you can text
1139
00:51:25.530 --> 00:51:28.570
or call 988 or get a hold of me or Jake.
1140
00:51:28.630 --> 00:51:30.489
DM us. We'll give you our phone number. You can
1141
00:51:30.530 --> 00:51:30.869
call us.
1142
00:51:30.969 --> 00:51:33.809
Please. Yeah, absolutely. And if it's something too where you're
1143
00:51:34.050 --> 00:51:36.409
embarrassed or whatever about it, like George just gave you
1144
00:51:36.449 --> 00:51:38.949
his whole stories with it. We've all got our own
1145
00:51:38.989 --> 00:51:42.139
stories and different stuff. Like it's... no judgment. We only
1146
00:51:42.179 --> 00:51:44.639
want people to be healthy and alive and get help
1147
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:46.840
to help that they need. Cause it's also one of
1148
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:51.239
those things where if you are in that situation, eventually financially,
1149
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:52.820
you're not going to be able to keep up with
1150
00:51:52.900 --> 00:51:56.820
it unless you're, unless you're making tons and tons of money. Yeah.
1151
00:51:56.969 --> 00:52:00.590
You know, that's yeah.
1152
00:52:00.909 --> 00:52:04.590
Now the whole thing is just crazy and that's, and
1153
00:52:04.610 --> 00:52:07.090
that leads us into where we were last night of, of,
1154
00:52:07.349 --> 00:52:07.710
of the.
1155
00:52:07.809 --> 00:52:09.269
I'm glad you let, I'm glad you let us talk
1156
00:52:09.309 --> 00:52:09.630
about this.
1157
00:52:09.690 --> 00:52:11.409
Absolutely. No, I kind of thought we were going to,
1158
00:52:11.409 --> 00:52:13.849
I was kind of planning to, I just, and this
1159
00:52:13.869 --> 00:52:15.929
thing is like, I don't want to just scorched earth
1160
00:52:15.989 --> 00:52:18.219
and burn Tony to the ground for this, but if
1161
00:52:18.260 --> 00:52:21.800
there isn't an A, like I just, it's, I don't know. Yeah,
1162
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.420
we will. And I mean, it just sucks for them.
1163
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.380
I mean, the fact that they have to do two
1164
00:52:27.460 --> 00:52:29.599
tribute shows in the span of a month, like I
1165
00:52:30.179 --> 00:52:34.360
believe like, The night of Pac's, the Pac night, I
1166
00:52:34.380 --> 00:52:38.380
think where he was heading from Chicago was to Buffalo
1167
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:39.800
for Andy Williams' service.
1168
00:52:39.820 --> 00:52:41.699
I believe that was the same day or maybe it
1169
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:42.159
was Monday.
1170
00:52:43.420 --> 00:52:45.719
That was where he was headed from my understanding was
1171
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.250
to go to the service for the Butcher and then
1172
00:52:48.809 --> 00:52:52.909
we're now doing this. And I know Andy Williams no
1173
00:52:53.130 --> 00:52:56.809
longer was with AEW and also it was a cardiac arrest,
1174
00:52:56.889 --> 00:52:58.190
but just still.
1175
00:52:58.730 --> 00:53:00.250
You know, it's just one of those.
1176
00:53:00.389 --> 00:53:02.809
That could also be from wearing terror for medications.
1177
00:53:03.449 --> 00:53:06.550
Yeah, no, that's exactly. And the, or, or, you know,
1178
00:53:06.570 --> 00:53:08.900
go back to Eddie Guerrero where he was helped, like
1179
00:53:08.940 --> 00:53:12.260
he had gotten clean and gotten healthy, but like he'd
1180
00:53:12.300 --> 00:53:14.300
done so much and his body.
1181
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.360
Was so distraught. Like his heart just eventually gave out.
1182
00:53:17.820 --> 00:53:20.510
That was my biggest fear when I, when I actually
1183
00:53:21.250 --> 00:53:23.289
quit and had to go to the doctor for a checkup.
1184
00:53:23.329 --> 00:53:25.050
My biggest fear was what have I done?
1185
00:53:25.650 --> 00:53:27.690
Right. Like, yeah, I could see that. What have I
1186
00:53:27.730 --> 00:53:29.550
done to myself? Yeah, no, I could see that a
1187
00:53:30.050 --> 00:53:33.260
hundred percent. And that's where, fortunately I worked out, worked
1188
00:53:33.340 --> 00:53:35.159
out well. Right. No, I was gonna say 10 years
1189
00:53:35.219 --> 00:53:37.260
is pretty good. And you're, and you, and our, and
1190
00:53:37.659 --> 00:53:40.239
also too, you didn't like, you know, hurt your immune system.
1191
00:53:40.260 --> 00:53:41.880
It looked like you're healing. Well, you're doing well with
1192
00:53:41.900 --> 00:53:44.760
your physical therapy. It's all good things, but you know,
1193
00:53:45.849 --> 00:53:48.550
Not everybody gets that, unfortunately. And then some people, you know,
1194
00:53:48.590 --> 00:53:50.659
they might only been addicted for like a year, but
1195
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:53.280
because of the way their body was, everybody's every single
1196
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:55.059
person is going to be different in how they react
1197
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:56.920
to it. Yeah.
1198
00:53:57.179 --> 00:53:59.429
Oh, we got a super chat here. Might as well
1199
00:53:59.449 --> 00:54:00.010
hit this one.
1200
00:54:00.289 --> 00:54:02.590
Sure. We do everything we can to prevent it. AEW
1201
00:54:02.630 --> 00:54:04.949
has the best safety record. I believe of any pro
1202
00:54:04.969 --> 00:54:09.719
wrestling company in the world. not anymore awful wrestling for
1203
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:11.519
five dollars i played that song for you because you
1204
00:54:11.539 --> 00:54:13.219
guys were looking for it on your show last night
1205
00:54:13.539 --> 00:54:15.900
if you guys need that for us on wds let
1206
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:18.389
me know i i've got it thank you travis for
1207
00:54:18.409 --> 00:54:22.230
those um this is going to be an extremely interesting
1208
00:54:22.349 --> 00:54:25.389
october i agree i think it might take october and
1209
00:54:25.429 --> 00:54:28.989
into november to get all i think but yeah it's
1210
00:54:29.010 --> 00:54:30.750
still going to be interesting stuff's going to come out
1211
00:54:30.789 --> 00:54:33.650
stuff's going to leak i uh it's going to be
1212
00:54:33.769 --> 00:54:36.829
very interesting. I'm, I'm, I wouldn't be surprised if there's,
1213
00:54:36.849 --> 00:54:40.530
like I said, an investigative report from someone just cause
1214
00:54:42.110 --> 00:54:42.989
his dad's a Billy.
1215
00:54:43.010 --> 00:54:47.070
I mean, he's a, he always keep your eyes on TMZ, right? Yeah.
1216
00:54:47.329 --> 00:54:49.889
There are the little fuckers that get in there.
1217
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:50.570
Yeah.
1218
00:54:51.500 --> 00:54:53.800
They would, I mean, how many videos and stuff.
1219
00:54:54.139 --> 00:54:57.380
Remember Ray Rice? No, that's why I was surprised that,
1220
00:54:58.250 --> 00:55:01.010
on Sunday when we found out live on air, which
1221
00:55:01.090 --> 00:55:02.320
is the craziest thing.
1222
00:55:02.179 --> 00:55:04.679
That's happened to us doing live shows to date.
1223
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:08.829
Um, you know, when, uh, When Smartest Mark Alive said it, like,
1224
00:55:08.869 --> 00:55:11.150
I immediately, while my other monitor was pulling up Twitter,
1225
00:55:12.369 --> 00:55:14.789
and I was shocked that it was AEW who broke
1226
00:55:14.809 --> 00:55:17.960
the story and not TMZ. Like, I was shocked that
1227
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:22.820
it wasn't TMZ breaking the story. In WWE's case, they're
1228
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:25.400
probably happy it wasn't TMZ because they probably would have been, like,
1229
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:31.190
former WWE wrestler. You know? I out. Um, but yeah,
1230
00:55:31.250 --> 00:55:33.090
we will, we will keep you guys abreast of it
1231
00:55:33.110 --> 00:55:35.110
is what we hear. Uh, I mean, the whole point
1232
00:55:35.179 --> 00:55:37.280
of what we're going to be doing with WDS on
1233
00:55:37.340 --> 00:55:40.400
Tuesdays is talking about the sheets and they're reporting and
1234
00:55:40.420 --> 00:55:43.199
it'll be interesting of how they don't cover a lot
1235
00:55:43.219 --> 00:55:46.079
of this for the reporters that think that they're, you know,
1236
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:48.400
they said it the last night on, this is awful too.
1237
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:50.940
Like those post wrestling guys that have been, you know,
1238
00:55:50.980 --> 00:55:54.000
especially Brandon Thurston, then it's like, and Pollock that are
1239
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:56.739
so focused on the Janelle Crent case. Cause they're, they're
1240
00:55:56.820 --> 00:56:00.429
real reporters. This is a real story. how deeply are
1241
00:56:00.469 --> 00:56:03.800
they going to cover this one? You know, cause John
1242
00:56:04.010 --> 00:56:07.440
Pollock was in, was at the press conference and kissed
1243
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.659
Tony's ass before asking a question. I think it was
1244
00:56:09.699 --> 00:56:12.579
the last question that we heard before Don Stevens took
1245
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.039
them down. And obviously I didn't go watch the rest
1246
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:17.320
of the press scrum. I only saw my boys watch,
1247
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.969
but I, it's going to be interesting, man. But you know,
1248
00:56:21.250 --> 00:56:24.460
in the end of all to it, you know, rest
1249
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:27.139
easy Pac rest in peace it does suck you know
1250
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.340
Ben you know it's because it is the other two
1251
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:33.639
is we're talking about a human being with a family
1252
00:56:33.699 --> 00:56:36.659
and you know whether you like this wrestling style or
1253
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.079
not that has got nothing to do with it it's
1254
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:39.579
a man.
1255
00:56:39.300 --> 00:56:43.280
Again this whole conversation that we've had today and that
1256
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:47.250
this and awful had yesterday this whole conversation would never
1257
00:56:47.389 --> 00:56:52.389
happening unless they unless the wording the way the way
1258
00:56:52.409 --> 00:56:56.030
they worded the story And the way it got out,
1259
00:56:56.389 --> 00:56:59.800
that's the only reason why we had this conversation. If
1260
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:03.420
they just would have said he was found in his car,
1261
00:57:03.860 --> 00:57:08.039
passed away at 8408, nothing to talk about.
1262
00:57:08.059 --> 00:57:09.519
Nothing.
1263
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:13.860
The way it was worded was the problem. If it
1264
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.869
wouldn't have been worded this way, we wouldn't lead to
1265
00:57:16.889 --> 00:57:17.570
where we're leading.
1266
00:57:17.610 --> 00:57:18.170
That's all.
1267
00:57:18.449 --> 00:57:21.269
And again, it comes out where it's just If it
1268
00:57:21.289 --> 00:57:24.309
was something that was in a blood clot or something,
1269
00:57:24.369 --> 00:57:27.570
then I'll be happy to say I was wrong. I'm
1270
00:57:27.590 --> 00:57:29.590
not going to problem with that. But again, the way
1271
00:57:29.659 --> 00:57:33.079
it was worded was why I took things the way
1272
00:57:33.219 --> 00:57:36.159
I took things because I've lived in that culture and
1273
00:57:36.179 --> 00:57:37.280
I know what that means.
1274
00:57:37.659 --> 00:57:40.139
No, and that was one of the reasons why when
1275
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:41.690
you wanted to start this conversation, I was happy to
1276
00:57:41.730 --> 00:57:43.750
have it because you've got that personal experience.
1277
00:57:43.809 --> 00:57:44.289
I get that.
1278
00:57:44.670 --> 00:57:46.250
But I mean, it could have easily been like, I
1279
00:57:46.250 --> 00:57:49.309
don't know, a brain aneurysm or an aortic aneurysm because
1280
00:57:49.340 --> 00:57:51.920
those things, if those burst, you're done.
1281
00:57:52.860 --> 00:57:56.199
And then we come out on Sunday or Thursday next
1282
00:57:56.260 --> 00:57:58.699
week and say, I was wrong and I'm terribly sorry.
1283
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:00.659
And I thought you should have worded it differently then.
1284
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:02.969
Yes, I was going to. Yeah, exactly. No, we are
1285
00:58:03.010 --> 00:58:04.449
the first people. I mean, that's what we talked about
1286
00:58:04.510 --> 00:58:08.070
on Sunday with SMA. Like, hey, I'm happy to be wrong.
1287
00:58:08.130 --> 00:58:10.750
I'm not looking to be wrong, but if I'm wrong,
1288
00:58:10.809 --> 00:58:12.659
I will admit it. I've got no problem with it.
1289
00:58:13.010 --> 00:58:15.920
You know, and that's where Like I know about aneurysms.
1290
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:18.550
My father died of an aortic aneurysm and it was,
1291
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:21.929
it burst on him. Now granted, because he was so
1292
00:58:22.010 --> 00:58:24.489
healthy and in a good shape, like he lived longer
1293
00:58:24.510 --> 00:58:26.530
than he should have with it, like a couple of hours.
1294
00:58:26.610 --> 00:58:28.909
But you know, there's some people where you hear where
1295
00:58:28.949 --> 00:58:31.469
it's just boom and they're done. Remember Peter Gammons almost
1296
00:58:31.510 --> 00:58:33.320
died forever ago where like he was in his car
1297
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:35.260
and they were able to save him. But like those
1298
00:58:35.300 --> 00:58:37.820
things can happen. It just, the way they were wording
1299
00:58:37.860 --> 00:58:41.719
with the slumped over just like, Ah, yeah.
1300
00:58:41.940 --> 00:58:44.760
I mean, when you, when you, the headlines slumped over
1301
00:58:44.780 --> 00:58:47.199
in the front and then you hear the dispatcher say slumper.
1302
00:58:47.820 --> 00:58:48.719
Yeah. Yeah.
1303
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:50.469
That's, I mean, that's where people are going to go.
1304
00:58:50.510 --> 00:58:52.550
I'm sorry. You shouldn't have put that out there. Right.
1305
00:58:53.090 --> 00:58:55.710
Well, and, and maybe the dispatch, I mean, he could
1306
00:58:55.730 --> 00:58:58.590
have been a dispatcher who was, you know, jaded and
1307
00:58:58.730 --> 00:59:01.010
a little day and just like, cause somebody was, he
1308
00:59:01.030 --> 00:59:03.030
was leaning over cause he might've already been like, and
1309
00:59:03.050 --> 00:59:05.750
they're just saying that probably shouldn't have, but it's, it
1310
00:59:05.809 --> 00:59:08.750
just sets it up to where it's what it looks like.
1311
00:59:08.829 --> 00:59:09.309
I don't know.
1312
00:59:09.429 --> 00:59:11.400
We're going to see. Yeah.
1313
00:59:11.539 --> 00:59:12.159
I hope I'm wrong.
1314
00:59:12.179 --> 00:59:14.400
Yeah, I do too.
1315
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:16.679
Like that's the thing is people think I get, I
1316
00:59:16.699 --> 00:59:17.679
get accused of being a.
1317
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:20.780
Fed head or an etard all the time. I'm not,
1318
00:59:21.340 --> 00:59:23.300
I don't have any allegiance to these companies. I get mad.
1319
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:24.699
Like I said, I get mad at Tony cause I
1320
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:26.739
think he could run his company so much better because
1321
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:28.800
but that doesn't mean like I hate them and want
1322
00:59:28.820 --> 00:59:31.900
them to fail. I want people to die. I, I, I'm,
1323
00:59:31.940 --> 00:59:33.679
we're just going by the information that we have in
1324
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:36.440
front of us. And it's a, it's a good conversation
1325
00:59:36.460 --> 00:59:38.739
to have. And also happy that we had it too.
1326
00:59:38.820 --> 00:59:41.369
Cause getting it out there of like, Hey, if somebody
1327
00:59:41.429 --> 00:59:45.050
listening does have a problem, please reach out. We will.
1328
00:59:45.510 --> 00:59:46.010
Yeah.
1329
00:59:47.349 --> 00:59:47.750
Exactly.
1330
00:59:47.789 --> 00:59:47.949
Yeah.
1331
00:59:48.190 --> 00:59:50.289
And there's also there, there's other hotlines and there's, there's
1332
00:59:50.349 --> 00:59:51.210
local places too.
1333
00:59:51.250 --> 00:59:52.590
You can go talk to somebody in person.
1334
00:59:53.130 --> 00:59:57.130
Like, yeah, there's, there's, there's plenty of it, but, um, Yeah,
1335
00:59:57.210 --> 01:00:00.670
I mean, so we'll get into the show. It's not
1336
01:00:00.769 --> 01:00:02.250
that much to cover in the sense of it because
1337
01:00:02.269 --> 01:00:04.260
there's a lot of guys talking, but we'll talk for sure.
1338
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:07.619
This is another thing, and this is probably just me.
1339
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:09.019
This is from Pittsburgh.
1340
01:00:09.820 --> 01:00:13.380
Yes, they were in Pittsburgh. Excalibur should not have had
1341
01:00:13.420 --> 01:00:15.449
his mask on here. Or maybe he should have taken
1342
01:00:15.489 --> 01:00:16.239
it off to give this.
1343
01:00:16.300 --> 01:00:18.329
I would agree with that 100%. Like, we're not living
1344
01:00:18.349 --> 01:00:18.500
in the.
1345
01:00:23.699 --> 01:00:28.340
I'm going to say in the 1900s, but, you know, 1980,
1346
01:00:28.340 --> 01:00:30.920
you don't need to cover. We know who you are.
1347
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:33.300
You know, your real name is out there. There's pictures
1348
01:00:33.340 --> 01:00:36.440
of you without the mask on. Like, I don't know.
1349
01:00:36.460 --> 01:00:40.019
This just felt to me like really, really shitty where
1350
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:42.980
he could have. And I know, like, he's saying all
1351
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.380
the right words or whatever with it. But just I, I,
1352
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:46.719
I didn't like that.
1353
01:00:46.780 --> 01:00:49.059
I thought it would have been nice if he would
1354
01:00:49.099 --> 01:00:51.219
have took the mask off and says of this, I
1355
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:52.510
am Mark, whatever my last.
1356
01:00:52.570 --> 01:00:53.159
Yeah, right.
1357
01:00:53.489 --> 01:00:56.800
Yeah. Mom, Mark. Instead of using his last name for real.
1358
01:00:57.159 --> 01:00:59.199
My name's Mark, and I want to say that this, this,
1359
01:00:59.219 --> 01:00:59.440
and this.
1360
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:00.639
I want to say this to my friend, Ben.
1361
01:01:00.659 --> 01:01:02.079
And then go back to being Excalibur after that.
1362
01:01:02.099 --> 01:01:06.000
That's fine. Because, yeah, to do the speech here that
1363
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:08.860
he gives, and then it cuts to Shivani in the ring,
1364
01:01:08.900 --> 01:01:10.719
put the mask back on to be the announcer. Like,
1365
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.159
that's fine. That's your gimmick or whatever, but... You're not
1366
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:16.280
protecting your identity. We know who you are. I don't know.
1367
01:01:16.340 --> 01:01:19.269
I just... And, like, I thought that, too, a bit
1368
01:01:19.309 --> 01:01:21.590
with The Butcher, but it didn't bother me as much
1369
01:01:21.630 --> 01:01:25.610
there because, you know, he wasn't a contracted wrestler and,
1370
01:01:26.250 --> 01:01:29.969
let's be real, wasn't as big storyline-wise as Pac has been.
1371
01:01:30.010 --> 01:01:32.090
You know, Pac's a former champion, all that kind of stuff.
1372
01:01:32.130 --> 01:01:33.150
But I don't know.
1373
01:01:33.230 --> 01:01:36.739
This just, again... It bothered me. I just felt like
1374
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:39.050
he should have taken the mask off, delivered the speech,
1375
01:01:39.070 --> 01:01:39.969
and then put it back on.
1376
01:01:40.230 --> 01:01:42.610
Because it goes to Tony Schiavone in the ring.
1377
01:01:42.630 --> 01:01:46.590
Two minutes with Tony was good. Yeah. This was the
1378
01:01:46.710 --> 01:01:49.079
two or three minutes when Tony Schiavone was tolerable. And
1379
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.610
after this, he sucked. Yeah. Yeah.
1380
01:01:52.650 --> 01:01:55.650
You're right. Cause he was very, you know, we're grief stricken.
1381
01:01:55.789 --> 01:01:58.710
We still are. Yeah. No, this was until, yeah. Once
1382
01:01:58.730 --> 01:02:00.730
he gets behind the table, I'm telling you, he was
1383
01:02:00.769 --> 01:02:01.090
good here.
1384
01:02:01.489 --> 01:02:01.710
Yeah.
1385
01:02:01.909 --> 01:02:04.150
No, if you, if you keep not that, not that
1386
01:02:04.190 --> 01:02:07.550
Excalibur or Shivani are great, but if you keep them separate,
1387
01:02:07.570 --> 01:02:09.570
you're going to get the best versions of each of them.
1388
01:02:09.929 --> 01:02:12.030
It's once you put them together and sit them next
1389
01:02:12.050 --> 01:02:15.630
to each other. at the announce table, they just feed
1390
01:02:15.650 --> 01:02:16.250
into each other's.
1391
01:02:16.289 --> 01:02:18.070
Yeah. They prove it during the rest of the show.
1392
01:02:18.369 --> 01:02:21.500
Yeah. I mean, honestly, like even when they went back,
1393
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:23.840
when it went back to the desk and like, they
1394
01:02:23.860 --> 01:02:25.340
were like, Oh, well, Pac would have wanted us to
1395
01:02:25.380 --> 01:02:28.159
continue and do it. Like Excalibur was chuckling. Like, Oh, well,
1396
01:02:28.179 --> 01:02:30.300
Pac would have wanted us to don't laugh. Not yet.
1397
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:33.300
I just, this was, that was bad, but I mean,
1398
01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:35.090
the 10 bell salute was good. Well, they, they first,
1399
01:02:35.110 --> 01:02:35.929
they cut to.
1400
01:02:36.190 --> 01:02:38.670
Okay. We're going to now, when they cut to this,
1401
01:02:39.110 --> 01:02:43.030
Shivani did say, That this is the last piece of
1402
01:02:43.110 --> 01:02:44.949
footage they have with Pac in it.
1403
01:02:45.730 --> 01:02:45.949
Right.
1404
01:02:46.230 --> 01:02:48.010
That's how it was phrased. It wasn't like this is
1405
01:02:48.070 --> 01:02:53.099
Pac's promo. They filmed this after the show with Moxley's promo.
1406
01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:57.440
And as they've been doing lately, they have Pac leave last.
1407
01:02:58.380 --> 01:03:01.820
Because they're setting up Pac either overturning Moxley or leaving.
1408
01:03:02.219 --> 01:03:04.119
They've been setting this up for a while.
1409
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:05.099
Yeah.
1410
01:03:05.739 --> 01:03:08.170
I think that's where they were going. is Pac was
1411
01:03:08.190 --> 01:03:10.809
going to turn on Moxley or turn babyface or something
1412
01:03:10.829 --> 01:03:13.889
of that nature. But every single promo they've done, Pac
1413
01:03:13.929 --> 01:03:16.340
has left last, and that's why they did this.
1414
01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:19.860
The way they did. Yeah, and even when he's leaving last,
1415
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:24.769
he's staring all angry about it. I definitely, from watching
1416
01:03:24.809 --> 01:03:27.829
this show for 54 weeks in a row now, It
1417
01:03:27.889 --> 01:03:30.070
seemed to me like that Pac was going to, that
1418
01:03:30.090 --> 01:03:32.730
the Death Riders were going to continue without Moxie. They
1419
01:03:32.750 --> 01:03:34.340
were going to jump him out of it, like jumping
1420
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:36.420
at him out of the gang or whatever. And then
1421
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:39.199
Mox could have taken that vacation we've talked about, which
1422
01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:40.239
that ain't happening now.
1423
01:03:41.860 --> 01:03:44.380
There were definite big plans for Pac. You could see
1424
01:03:44.420 --> 01:03:47.019
this coming week by week. And even after this promo,
1425
01:03:47.059 --> 01:03:47.820
you could see it coming.
1426
01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:50.559
Even during the promo, like the way Moxie was talking
1427
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:53.139
about it, like he was talking about how like, you know,
1428
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:55.889
he talked about like eulogies and funerals and stuff because
1429
01:03:55.929 --> 01:03:58.289
it was kind of like, his characters die.
1430
01:03:58.329 --> 01:04:00.710
Like they would like, this is ending for him like this.
1431
01:04:02.510 --> 01:04:03.750
They were clearly leading to that.
1432
01:04:03.769 --> 01:04:06.300
And this one, even almost more so because he stayed
1433
01:04:06.409 --> 01:04:07.619
longer than he had before.
1434
01:04:07.659 --> 01:04:09.500
He was staring angry the whole time.
1435
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.019
Like he's been getting in Mox's face the last few
1436
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:12.719
weeks with it.
1437
01:04:12.739 --> 01:04:14.619
Like that's definitely where this was going.
1438
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:17.539
But the only reason they showed it is because Pac's ending.
1439
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:18.219
Right.
1440
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:20.500
And that was the last piece of footage they had
1441
01:04:20.539 --> 01:04:24.389
of Pac. Right. Yeah. It wasn't like they were taking
1442
01:04:24.409 --> 01:04:27.250
the spotlight off. It was Pac's, you know, tribute show
1443
01:04:27.269 --> 01:04:28.869
it was just like they happened to film this and
1444
01:04:28.889 --> 01:04:29.849
this is what they got.
1445
01:04:30.030 --> 01:04:32.289
Right and it was the last and it literally was
1446
01:04:32.329 --> 01:04:36.539
the last because they filmed it after the pay-per-view so
1447
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:38.719
this would have been phil i mean since moxie was
1448
01:04:38.820 --> 01:04:41.199
in the main event and he's cleaned up afterwards like.
1449
01:04:42.670 --> 01:04:44.250
It was a late night for them with it. And
1450
01:04:44.289 --> 01:04:45.269
that's what this was filmed.
1451
01:04:45.349 --> 01:04:47.510
And then they come back and they do a 10
1452
01:04:47.510 --> 01:04:49.550
bell salute with everybody on stage.
1453
01:04:49.630 --> 01:04:51.969
And, you know, I mean, I guess that you get it.
1454
01:04:52.010 --> 01:04:55.980
And then I, everybody was, I mean, obviously they're going
1455
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.460
to be sad. They lost a coworker. Suddenly they're not
1456
01:04:58.619 --> 01:05:01.840
being able to, you know, process and handle it. Did
1457
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.340
think Aubrey was a little bit performative with it, but
1458
01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:04.960
that's Aubrey.
1459
01:05:05.260 --> 01:05:08.719
I didn't even notice her. I was, I was watching
1460
01:05:08.780 --> 01:05:09.920
Bryce Rensburg actually.
1461
01:05:10.139 --> 01:05:13.659
He was actually emotional. Right. Well, I've, and I mean,
1462
01:05:13.739 --> 01:05:16.699
he's been a referee for them because he did like,
1463
01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:17.260
I think he.
1464
01:05:17.179 --> 01:05:20.039
Was refereeing with Pac, but like when, before Pac was signed.
1465
01:05:20.059 --> 01:05:22.199
Yeah. He has a, he has a connection with him. Yes. Yeah.
1466
01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:25.380
Yeah. Yeah. No, they just, when they did one pan
1467
01:05:25.739 --> 01:05:28.099
and it showed off, like everybody else was like, sadly,
1468
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:30.340
you would see people crying, but like holding some sort
1469
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:32.840
of like their arms down and stoicism. Aubrey was like,
1470
01:05:32.860 --> 01:05:37.400
and it felt to me like she wasn't on the
1471
01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:39.599
first pan, but then knew that camera was on her.
1472
01:05:39.739 --> 01:05:40.139
I don't know.
1473
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:41.849
She's, I didn't even notice her.
1474
01:05:41.860 --> 01:05:42.619
We know how I feel about her.
1475
01:05:42.670 --> 01:05:43.449
I didn't even notice her.
1476
01:05:43.730 --> 01:05:45.210
Yeah. I can't not.
1477
01:05:45.329 --> 01:05:47.110
I try not to, but I can't not.
1478
01:05:47.130 --> 01:05:49.190
I did forget to mention before we started this. Hang on.
1479
01:05:49.210 --> 01:05:50.409
What's up?
1480
01:05:51.690 --> 01:05:58.829
So when Dynamite starts. Okay, hang on a second. When
1481
01:05:58.869 --> 01:06:02.039
World's End started. Okay. The first half an hour of
1482
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.519
World Class. I always do that. I always do that, dude.
1483
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:07.000
I know. Always. I'm trying to help you.
1484
01:06:07.300 --> 01:06:09.599
I'm consistent with that shit. I'll give you that.
1485
01:06:09.659 --> 01:06:10.619
You are. You are.
1486
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:11.079
Thank you.
1487
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:11.860
No problem.
1488
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:13.860
So World's End starts at.
1489
01:06:13.900 --> 01:06:14.599
World's Collide.
1490
01:06:14.619 --> 01:06:16.239
I did it again?
1491
01:06:16.260 --> 01:06:16.980
You did.
1492
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:19.599
I wrote it down. I wrote it down. World's End.
1493
01:06:20.300 --> 01:06:23.420
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, Collide.
1494
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:25.019
Do a super chat first. Fuck.
1495
01:06:28.860 --> 01:06:34.630
Oh, God, that's funny. All right, here, we'll go with...
1496
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:37.519
I wasn't prepared to air. We'll go with... I think
1497
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:40.480
there's so many great things happening in AEW, so it
1498
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:41.619
was great to.
1499
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:43.619
Come in and have... Oh, God, that's funny.
1500
01:06:44.019 --> 01:06:47.409
Oh, so we got Regina Sharp for $ 5. Honestly, Aubrey
1501
01:06:47.429 --> 01:06:51.250
being performative feels like the natural for her. Yeah, it
1502
01:06:51.289 --> 01:06:56.269
is her default setting. Default setting has taken the spotlight. Yeah,
1503
01:06:56.329 --> 01:06:57.900
and I mean, like, it's one of those things where...
1504
01:06:58.449 --> 01:07:01.269
maybe she wasn't in that moment, but like we've said before, it's,
1505
01:07:01.449 --> 01:07:03.150
she's done it so often. You just kind of see
1506
01:07:03.170 --> 01:07:05.139
it with, but yeah, worlds collide. It started.
1507
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:07.960
I wrote down his time. All right. Yeah. So it
1508
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:10.980
starts at top of the hour for me. What's six o'clock.
1509
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:15.539
So at six 30, they were at 35,000 viewers on
1510
01:07:15.579 --> 01:07:19.230
YouTube on the Lucha channel. They were at 26. Okay.
1511
01:07:21.670 --> 01:07:27.380
At quarter to the hour. It's 41,000 on YouTube on
1512
01:07:27.610 --> 01:07:33.780
WWE and 33,000 and then jumped to 34,000 on the Lucha. Okay.
1513
01:07:34.179 --> 01:07:39.360
At the top of the hour, Dynamite starts on the
1514
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:44.929
WWE channel. They're at 48,000 and it stayed at 48,000
1515
01:07:44.929 --> 01:07:47.329
pretty much for the first half an hour of Dynamite.
1516
01:07:47.949 --> 01:07:52.539
The Lucha channel at the top of the hours at 55,000,
1517
01:07:52.539 --> 01:07:55.809
they consistently go up slowly throughout the rest of the night.
1518
01:07:57.610 --> 01:08:00.010
The WWE channel, like I said, it levels off between
1519
01:08:00.010 --> 01:08:03.849
40 and 45 at the top of the hour. After
1520
01:08:03.869 --> 01:08:07.340
the half an hour passes, it goes up to 49
1521
01:08:07.340 --> 01:08:09.719
to 50 and it goes up shortly after that. So
1522
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:12.159
people tuned in to the first half an hour of
1523
01:08:12.219 --> 01:08:14.099
dynamite to see what was going on. And then they
1524
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:16.039
went over to worlds collide. And I got it right
1525
01:08:16.060 --> 01:08:16.380
that time.
1526
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:18.520
Yeah, you did. But the thing is too, is with
1527
01:08:18.579 --> 01:08:24.529
that many people, even if all 50,000 of those people
1528
01:08:24.590 --> 01:08:29.489
are going to watch Dynamite, that's not counter-programming. And that's
1529
01:08:29.529 --> 01:08:32.380
why I said before, people are like, they shouldn't air it.
1530
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:38.680
Brian Alvarez, nobody in WWE wants them to air it
1531
01:08:38.699 --> 01:08:41.899
against it, was what he said. I responded to that
1532
01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:45.729
tweet and retweeted saying, no, nobody in WWE is who
1533
01:08:45.770 --> 01:08:49.050
you talked to. Because I'm sorry, it wasn't.
1534
01:08:49.390 --> 01:08:51.149
Because those live numbers are nothing.
1535
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:51.899
Right.
1536
01:08:51.909 --> 01:08:55.359
I look at them now, different story, but yeah.
1537
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:57.970
Because when they air a live show, like when they're
1538
01:08:58.029 --> 01:09:03.250
airing even just the weekly, show of... of AAA. Like
1539
01:09:03.310 --> 01:09:06.149
it gets like over a hundred thousand, 200,000. And then
1540
01:09:06.270 --> 01:09:08.649
obviously when it's the pay-per-views, they're up way higher with it.
1541
01:09:09.069 --> 01:09:11.109
This was, this was a tape show. Like I said,
1542
01:09:11.149 --> 01:09:13.329
this was, they were airing it cause they needed to
1543
01:09:13.510 --> 01:09:15.649
air it somewhere too. Cause they taped it. But again,
1544
01:09:15.689 --> 01:09:16.949
like this is more, I feel like this is more
1545
01:09:16.979 --> 01:09:19.340
like a, an attempted kind of like pilot to show
1546
01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:21.939
our product and that sort of thing. And I don't know.
1547
01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:24.100
I just feel like again, and that's what happens with
1548
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:27.689
the IWC and the real, like the tribalists, they need
1549
01:09:27.729 --> 01:09:30.609
it to be competition. They need WWE bad. Like that's
1550
01:09:30.649 --> 01:09:32.609
how they want to feel. And that's just pretty much
1551
01:09:32.670 --> 01:09:33.909
one exactly. Like we thought it would.
1552
01:09:33.949 --> 01:09:35.300
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1553
01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:36.199
Exactly. Yeah. You're right.
1554
01:09:36.220 --> 01:09:38.119
That's exactly what we said was going to happen with it.
1555
01:09:38.220 --> 01:09:39.859
Leveled right off at the top of the hour and
1556
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:41.960
it didn't move for, it didn't move for half an hour.
1557
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.510
I watched it every fifth. I was checking it. It
1558
01:09:44.569 --> 01:09:46.489
didn't move for the first half hour after that started
1559
01:09:46.510 --> 01:09:47.090
shooting back up.
1560
01:09:47.829 --> 01:09:50.489
Yeah and again like that's because i mean obviously i
1561
01:09:50.529 --> 01:09:55.210
think most people that weren't super aw fans they probably
1562
01:09:55.250 --> 01:09:57.609
just wanted to see this and you know pay their
1563
01:09:57.630 --> 01:09:59.069
respects and go back.
1564
01:09:59.010 --> 01:10:03.020
So between between the two companies at half past the
1565
01:10:03.060 --> 01:10:04.880
hour after a half hour dynamite you had 57 000
1566
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:06.579
on the lucha channel and 50 000 on okay wwe
1567
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:12.159
That's a hundred thousand people.
1568
01:10:12.779 --> 01:10:13.039
Right.
1569
01:10:13.079 --> 01:10:14.779
It's not going to make it. No.
1570
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:15.300
It's not.
1571
01:10:15.380 --> 01:10:18.399
Those people aren't going to be watching dynamite. Sorry. Right.
1572
01:10:18.420 --> 01:10:20.300
I'll say, I'll say most of the, at least all
1573
01:10:20.340 --> 01:10:23.340
that fifties, whatever thousand on the Lucha channel, those people
1574
01:10:23.380 --> 01:10:26.529
probably weren't watching dynamite one way or the other. Right.
1575
01:10:27.090 --> 01:10:30.710
So yeah, that people watching on the WWE channel, there's
1576
01:10:30.729 --> 01:10:33.069
a percentage of them that we're going to probably watch
1577
01:10:33.149 --> 01:10:35.930
over to dynamite, but not it's, it wasn't as big
1578
01:10:36.010 --> 01:10:37.789
as people were trying to make it out to be.
1579
01:10:37.789 --> 01:10:38.770
It wasn't that big of a deal.
1580
01:10:38.829 --> 01:10:39.430
No, no, no, no.
1581
01:10:39.470 --> 01:10:40.649
Yeah, it really wasn't.
1582
01:10:40.670 --> 01:10:42.489
If I would have came to you and said the
1583
01:10:42.529 --> 01:10:45.340
first half an hour was 1.2 million watching live on
1584
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:47.500
each different story, but that wasn't even close.
1585
01:10:47.939 --> 01:10:50.420
I would even say 500,000. I'd have been like, that's
1586
01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:52.520
a big number, but as of now.
1587
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:54.899
Yeah, now their numbers are through the roof, but during
1588
01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.319
the live broadcast, there was nothing. It was nothing. Right.
1589
01:10:57.359 --> 01:10:59.770
It's over 24 hours removed. Yeah, no, for sure.
1590
01:10:59.989 --> 01:11:00.189
Yeah.
1591
01:11:00.310 --> 01:11:02.050
And that's, and that's what you said for the beginning.
1592
01:11:02.069 --> 01:11:07.689
Like it's, it's, youtube versus live television it's not counter
1593
01:11:07.750 --> 01:11:11.000
programming it's not the same thing no it's just not
1594
01:11:11.699 --> 01:11:15.460
um and and then i don't know i get having
1595
01:11:15.619 --> 01:11:18.680
mox start the show off with the match but did
1596
01:11:18.699 --> 01:11:23.449
it really need to be again orange cassidy no bless there.
1597
01:11:23.350 --> 01:11:27.770
Should have been three matches on this whole show there
1598
01:11:27.789 --> 01:11:30.010
should have been a moxley match but not against cassidy
1599
01:11:30.550 --> 01:11:32.149
There should have been a Death Riders match with the
1600
01:11:32.189 --> 01:11:34.250
guys and there should have been a Maria Schaefer match.
1601
01:11:34.270 --> 01:11:36.449
That should have been it for the matches. The rest
1602
01:11:36.529 --> 01:11:40.949
of the show should have been commentary from people that
1603
01:11:41.050 --> 01:11:45.199
knew him. We'll get to when Brian comes out here
1604
01:11:45.220 --> 01:11:48.279
in a little bit. Should have been sitting there with
1605
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:52.680
Moxley reminiscing about him and showing a match of his.
1606
01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:55.399
There should have been highlights of his matches, much like
1607
01:11:55.420 --> 01:11:58.350
the Benoit thing was. Do you remember how he did that?
1608
01:11:58.409 --> 01:11:58.590
Yeah.
1609
01:11:58.949 --> 01:12:00.529
They were live matches, I don't think.
1610
01:12:00.550 --> 01:12:00.829
Were they?
1611
01:12:01.010 --> 01:12:01.149
No.
1612
01:12:01.449 --> 01:12:03.640
I don't believe so. I don't believe in that one.
1613
01:12:04.100 --> 01:12:05.840
And AEW is not going to do that. Just have
1614
01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:08.109
three matches. Just have the three with the Death Riders.
1615
01:12:08.149 --> 01:12:10.800
That was his group. Just have those three. And that
1616
01:12:10.819 --> 01:12:11.840
would have been it. And it has the rest of
1617
01:12:11.859 --> 01:12:13.439
the fill in time with people talking.
1618
01:12:13.890 --> 01:12:14.149
Yeah.
1619
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:16.319
Instead of having those cutaways where they were kept doing,
1620
01:12:16.850 --> 01:12:18.270
have them come out live and do it.
1621
01:12:18.649 --> 01:12:21.149
There you go. Yeah. That's probably what, yeah. I also,
1622
01:12:21.369 --> 01:12:24.390
I also understood having Osprey on the card. Cause he's
1623
01:12:24.430 --> 01:12:26.329
also from England and that sort of thing.
1624
01:12:26.409 --> 01:12:27.050
I'm okay with that.
1625
01:12:27.210 --> 01:12:27.649
I'm going to get that.
1626
01:12:27.850 --> 01:12:29.810
But like, we didn't need.
1627
01:12:29.630 --> 01:12:32.170
The elite wrestling on this show.
1628
01:12:32.609 --> 01:12:35.409
Yeah. No, the elite wrestling on the show felt to
1629
01:12:35.470 --> 01:12:39.390
me like them being, Again, performative. Because one of the
1630
01:12:39.430 --> 01:12:42.010
bucks I felt like was fake crying. Because they want
1631
01:12:42.029 --> 01:12:44.109
to be seen as every man. Oh, we're part of
1632
01:12:44.140 --> 01:12:47.939
the team. Just didn't need it. 100%.
1633
01:12:48.420 --> 01:12:52.560
Callbacks. I want to see Pac's first match in AEW.
1634
01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:54.869
Show me that all again. Show me what happened when
1635
01:12:54.909 --> 01:12:57.529
this happened. Show me when the Death Riders got him.
1636
01:12:57.609 --> 01:13:00.949
The whole progression of his career in AEW. Because according
1637
01:13:00.970 --> 01:13:02.890
to that letter, being in AEW was the best part
1638
01:13:02.909 --> 01:13:03.390
of his life.
1639
01:13:03.489 --> 01:13:04.109
So, yes.
1640
01:13:04.550 --> 01:13:05.670
And show that match.
1641
01:13:05.829 --> 01:13:08.260
Like, I know there was comedy to it, but it
1642
01:13:08.300 --> 01:13:10.680
was still a good work. Because his name and his
1643
01:13:10.739 --> 01:13:13.420
nickname in WWE is the man that Gravity forgot. And
1644
01:13:13.460 --> 01:13:16.979
then he wrestled the wrestler Gravity once. And, like, Gravity
1645
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:18.479
was like, I don't know you. I forget you. Like,
1646
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:20.920
that was... Show stuff like that. Yeah, his first match.
1647
01:13:22.100 --> 01:13:24.039
He won a singles title at one point, right? He
1648
01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:26.430
won one of those singles titles, I feel like, maybe.
1649
01:13:26.729 --> 01:13:28.390
Or if not, he won the trios. Whatever.
1650
01:13:28.609 --> 01:13:30.670
Show a match where he wins his first title in
1651
01:13:30.710 --> 01:13:32.689
an AEW. Yeah, show his first match.
1652
01:13:32.970 --> 01:13:35.590
Show the title. Honestly, if they wanted to, I don't
1653
01:13:35.609 --> 01:13:39.109
know if they should have, but show that the pay-per-view match. Like, yeah,
1654
01:13:39.130 --> 01:13:41.529
you just didn't. You didn't need all this. And honestly,
1655
01:13:41.550 --> 01:13:44.329
the matches could have been quicker. This match went forever. Granted,
1656
01:13:44.390 --> 01:13:45.869
it's Cassidy.
1657
01:13:46.210 --> 01:13:48.529
Moxley should have never fought Cassidy. What they should have
1658
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:52.500
done was show him the Pac-Cassidy match. Because that was
1659
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:53.180
actually funny.
1660
01:13:54.039 --> 01:13:54.659
Oh, yeah.
1661
01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:56.739
OC was trying to do his shit and Pac wouldn't
1662
01:13:56.779 --> 01:13:58.300
take it. That was one of the first times we
1663
01:13:58.359 --> 01:13:59.899
saw that from somebody. That was cool.
1664
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:01.739
Yeah, right.
1665
01:14:01.859 --> 01:14:04.600
Having this was... counterproductive for me.
1666
01:14:04.939 --> 01:14:07.319
And Shivani can't be like, oh, well, these guys have
1667
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:10.689
the most, they're number one and number two in most
1668
01:14:10.739 --> 01:14:14.270
singles wins in AEW. Like that's, Pappy Cassidy is the
1669
01:14:14.329 --> 01:14:17.510
number two winner of singles matches in your company. It's
1670
01:14:17.590 --> 01:14:21.329
not the flex you think it is. Bruh. I'm sorry.
1671
01:14:21.449 --> 01:14:23.770
I didn't need to say. Moxley wrestling is fine. Just
1672
01:14:23.829 --> 01:14:25.270
put him against somebody that would have been.
1673
01:14:26.029 --> 01:14:27.689
He was the leader of the group they've been in
1674
01:14:27.729 --> 01:14:29.229
for the last two years.
1675
01:14:29.390 --> 01:14:31.649
Again, three matches only would have been fine with me
1676
01:14:31.670 --> 01:14:34.180
and the rest should have been filler with people. telling
1677
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:35.899
their stories and showing their matches.
1678
01:14:36.609 --> 01:14:36.810
Yep.
1679
01:14:36.869 --> 01:14:38.699
Especially this guy. Yep.
1680
01:14:39.750 --> 01:14:41.689
Especially, Daniel, this one.
1681
01:14:41.850 --> 01:14:44.430
Especially this guy. Because there's no fucking way this dude
1682
01:14:44.449 --> 01:14:45.210
should have been in the ring.
1683
01:14:45.430 --> 01:14:47.399
No. And we'll get to it when we get into
1684
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:50.140
his match. This part was fine for Jansen. Coming out,
1685
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:55.539
hugging Moxley. Because remember, too, it's not just the Death Riders.
1686
01:14:55.600 --> 01:15:00.039
It was the Blackpool Combat Club. Pac was in that, too.
1687
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:02.149
He was in that where they did the madness picture
1688
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:06.270
with William Regal and stuff. That was fine. And even,
1689
01:15:06.630 --> 01:15:09.359
I'll just say it now, because he wrestles later. having
1690
01:15:09.380 --> 01:15:12.680
him like come out and like help them with the finish.
1691
01:15:12.699 --> 01:15:16.439
Like he could deliver the knee, like hit an offensive move. Fine.
1692
01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:19.260
The last thing I ever want to see is Brian
1693
01:15:19.300 --> 01:15:22.060
Daniels to take another fucking bump. Like the guy can't
1694
01:15:22.199 --> 01:15:26.000
travel to do commentary because he's in pain. I know
1695
01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:28.800
he wants to pay tribute to his friend. There was
1696
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:30.739
the tribute. You didn't need to wrestle.
1697
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:33.470
Exactly. That's why he should have, this part should have
1698
01:15:33.510 --> 01:15:36.069
happened like it did. And then they have it. Then they,
1699
01:15:36.340 --> 01:15:38.220
Give them a couple chairs. They sit down. They show
1700
01:15:38.260 --> 01:15:39.020
a Pac match.
1701
01:15:39.579 --> 01:15:39.819
Yeah.
1702
01:15:39.859 --> 01:15:41.899
And they cry it out and hug, whatever. It's fine.
1703
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:43.500
Yeah, the two of them. Yeah, you know what? Having
1704
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:45.340
them sit down in the ring and talk about Pac
1705
01:15:45.579 --> 01:15:47.840
for 10 minutes would have been better than having.
1706
01:15:47.579 --> 01:15:50.119
The Elite match, 100%. Because they do.
1707
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:50.840
They hug it out.
1708
01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:53.359
It's a nice moment. Like, the fans kind of need.
1709
01:15:53.699 --> 01:15:56.199
And that's the thing. The fans need this kind of stuff.
1710
01:15:56.579 --> 01:15:58.859
I didn't need. Speaking of fans, I didn't need the
1711
01:15:58.899 --> 01:16:01.279
fans yelling, holy shit, during this stupid thing.
1712
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:03.300
Yeah, that was really weird.
1713
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.199
Just standing there looking at you in the crowd. Holy shit.
1714
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:08.579
I'm like, come on. That's stupid.
1715
01:16:08.939 --> 01:16:12.420
Stupid. Yeah, no. But that's, I mean, unfortunately, that's the
1716
01:16:12.460 --> 01:16:14.920
sickos a lot of times. Yeah. And even too, like
1717
01:16:14.979 --> 01:16:17.659
Tony put it, justified this is awesome chance. Like, we
1718
01:16:17.699 --> 01:16:21.460
don't need that tweet during the night. Yeah, no. And again,
1719
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:23.560
that's where it feels like some of this shit becomes
1720
01:16:23.659 --> 01:16:25.539
self-serving to me. And I said that before.
1721
01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:27.539
Yes, because they had their chance to be human.
1722
01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:30.319
Yeah. Yeah. And I, and I, and I, I said
1723
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:32.220
it before, I said it when the whole butcher thing
1724
01:16:32.260 --> 01:16:34.460
happened that I, like I said, I lived in LA
1725
01:16:34.500 --> 01:16:38.170
for long enough where certain celebrities would die. People would,
1726
01:16:38.449 --> 01:16:40.350
and even I'm sure it impacted them to a point,
1727
01:16:40.390 --> 01:16:43.109
but people would like play up on that so much more.
1728
01:16:43.130 --> 01:16:45.989
Like I can remember kids that weren't even alive when
1729
01:16:46.050 --> 01:16:49.079
Whitney Houston was popular. And when she died, they were like,
1730
01:16:49.260 --> 01:16:50.840
Oh my God, it's the worst thing ever. I'm like,
1731
01:16:50.859 --> 01:16:53.819
you would never even seen the bodyguard. Like, you don't know, like,
1732
01:16:54.619 --> 01:16:56.460
you can let it affect you but not as because
1733
01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:58.720
they want it to be about them and that's where
1734
01:16:58.739 --> 01:17:01.159
i felt like some of that was happening with it
1735
01:17:01.220 --> 01:17:03.770
but that's unfortunately what people do a lot of times
1736
01:17:03.850 --> 01:17:05.770
and even if they weren't it comes across that way
1737
01:17:05.810 --> 01:17:07.729
with it i mean i awful said it too the
1738
01:17:07.750 --> 01:17:08.789
other time just it's i.
1739
01:17:08.789 --> 01:17:11.050
Don't know i was also hard to ignore the fact
1740
01:17:11.090 --> 01:17:12.550
that last time they were in the ring together he
1741
01:17:12.750 --> 01:17:13.970
tried killing him right.
1742
01:17:13.770 --> 01:17:16.109
I was gonna say yeah he tried to put the
1743
01:17:16.310 --> 01:17:17.670
back over his head you.
1744
01:17:17.590 --> 01:17:19.369
Kind of let that slide because you know.
1745
01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:24.979
Circumstances but right but still it's it's it's hard to
1746
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:27.239
let that one slide it's not like.
1747
01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:29.020
Came to my mind as i'm watching i'm like didn't
1748
01:17:29.050 --> 01:17:30.850
he try to kill him with a paper right well it's.
1749
01:17:30.750 --> 01:17:32.590
Not like he like it's not like he like kicked
1750
01:17:32.609 --> 01:17:34.850
him in the groin and stabbed him in the back
1751
01:17:35.390 --> 01:17:40.029
plastic bag over his head oh god yeah no that
1752
01:17:40.069 --> 01:17:42.340
really did happen uh and then it starts with these
1753
01:17:42.380 --> 01:17:43.899
things in the back where they're.
1754
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:46.079
And these things in the back shouldn't have happened these
1755
01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:47.680
things in the back i agree on stage.
1756
01:17:47.979 --> 01:17:50.789
I agree i agree and i I do think that
1757
01:17:50.890 --> 01:17:52.489
some of them maybe needed to be in the back
1758
01:17:52.510 --> 01:17:55.050
because maybe the guy like if someone who's a really
1759
01:17:55.109 --> 01:17:57.609
good friend with him maybe couldn't have delivered it live
1760
01:17:57.630 --> 01:18:00.779
because it would have been too emotional but I think
1761
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:02.939
you're absolutely right they should have at least done most
1762
01:18:02.979 --> 01:18:06.140
of them that way you know I also feel like
1763
01:18:07.460 --> 01:18:10.729
I understand like it's crying's got to be part of
1764
01:18:10.810 --> 01:18:12.710
it but also like I don't know I feel like
1765
01:18:12.729 --> 01:18:14.310
some people were crying a bit too hard just because
1766
01:18:14.329 --> 01:18:15.649
I don't want to see I don't know I just.
1767
01:18:15.890 --> 01:18:19.600
I can't say I'm not going to I'm not going
1768
01:18:19.619 --> 01:18:22.399
to do that because I don't know. I wasn't friends
1769
01:18:22.420 --> 01:18:24.779
with him, so I don't... Right. I could see where
1770
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:26.960
if you are friends, it would be tough. Yeah. The
1771
01:18:26.979 --> 01:18:28.979
whole night was tough for everybody. I can understand that.
1772
01:18:29.079 --> 01:18:29.680
Absolutely.
1773
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.220
No, for sure. Especially with the circumstances of it.
1774
01:18:32.579 --> 01:18:34.239
And it's not like, you know, it wasn't like he
1775
01:18:34.260 --> 01:18:36.779
was sick and you were prepared for it.
1776
01:18:36.779 --> 01:18:38.760
When someone dies suddenly, it's rough.
1777
01:18:39.180 --> 01:18:41.760
But then, yeah. Then they have this match here that
1778
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:48.699
was just wholly unnecessary. You know, of having... the elite
1779
01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:52.100
take on four random members of the Callis family. Was
1780
01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:54.880
it like Rocky Romero, Kyle Fletcher?
1781
01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:57.479
Rocky Romero took everything at the end.
1782
01:18:57.500 --> 01:18:58.920
Yeah, Rocky.
1783
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:00.960
I mean, when the match started, I was like, well,
1784
01:19:00.979 --> 01:19:02.439
he's the one taking the pins and stuff.
1785
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:05.520
Yeah, taking the pin and taking every move possible.
1786
01:19:05.979 --> 01:19:08.880
Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, it was Trent Barretta, Rocky Romero,
1787
01:19:08.899 --> 01:19:09.460
Kevin Knight.
1788
01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:11.149
Oh, it was Trent Barretta taking everything at the end.
1789
01:19:11.159 --> 01:19:11.560
I'm sorry.
1790
01:19:11.979 --> 01:19:13.140
Oh, was it? Okay.
1791
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:14.960
I was one of them.
1792
01:19:15.140 --> 01:19:17.319
Well, last time it was– yeah, last time it was
1793
01:19:17.340 --> 01:19:22.409
Rocky Romero when he took all the knees and all
1794
01:19:22.430 --> 01:19:25.329
the finishes. And, I mean, I guess there's like that
1795
01:19:25.390 --> 01:19:27.970
point of like, well, the elite is the– They were
1796
01:19:27.989 --> 01:19:29.409
the big group in the company.
1797
01:19:29.930 --> 01:19:33.850
I don't know. They didn't need to be on this card.
1798
01:19:33.899 --> 01:19:36.500
I'll say it again. Unless you were in the Death Riders,
1799
01:19:37.420 --> 01:19:40.619
you shouldn't have been in the match at all during
1800
01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:42.060
this show. It should never have happened.
1801
01:19:42.489 --> 01:19:45.539
No, like, yeah, you're right. It should have been the
1802
01:19:45.619 --> 01:19:48.680
Moxley match, the rest of the Death Riders, the Marina
1803
01:19:48.699 --> 01:19:51.079
Shafir in a singles match, maybe a tag because it
1804
01:19:51.100 --> 01:19:52.819
might have been hard for her. And then if you
1805
01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:56.119
wanted to have Ospreay on the card, fine. Yeah, throw
1806
01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:56.819
him in.
1807
01:19:56.600 --> 01:19:57.960
The middle of all that.
1808
01:19:58.100 --> 01:19:58.380
Yeah.
1809
01:19:58.699 --> 01:20:00.039
And then end the show with the way they ended
1810
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:00.460
the show.
1811
01:20:00.739 --> 01:20:01.899
Yeah, exactly.
1812
01:20:01.939 --> 01:20:05.920
But having, yeah, this match here was just, yeah, no,
1813
01:20:05.939 --> 01:20:06.600
this bothered me.
1814
01:20:06.899 --> 01:20:08.779
The matches actually were the worst part of the show.
1815
01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:11.390
Yeah. Bro, you're right. Which wasn't one I.
1816
01:20:11.369 --> 01:20:12.710
Was interested in because I didn't care.
1817
01:20:13.149 --> 01:20:13.649
Yeah, exactly.
1818
01:20:13.670 --> 01:20:14.789
I didn't come to watch the matches.
1819
01:20:15.050 --> 01:20:15.270
Yeah.
1820
01:20:15.590 --> 01:20:15.770
Yep.
1821
01:20:16.229 --> 01:20:19.560
Yeah, but you're right. Look at that bottom left picture, Rocky.
1822
01:20:20.189 --> 01:20:22.239
Brett had taken it. But also in that bottom left picture,
1823
01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:24.199
what pose is Aubrey hitting?
1824
01:20:24.260 --> 01:20:25.880
Why is your sexy ass pose?
1825
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:29.399
And even like the way she holds up their hands
1826
01:20:29.420 --> 01:20:31.600
so she can like hit the hip pose out. Yeah.
1827
01:20:31.619 --> 01:20:32.800
She throws her ass out there. Yeah.
1828
01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:35.399
She's always got to, it's just giving you the goods.
1829
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:36.779
She's giving you the goods.
1830
01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:38.239
No, she's giving you the bad.
1831
01:20:38.899 --> 01:20:40.600
Sorry. Sorry.
1832
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:43.930
I was mean. She blocked me on Twitter. I don't know.
1833
01:20:43.949 --> 01:20:46.109
Hey, whatever. As long as you give her the horse
1834
01:20:46.149 --> 01:20:49.329
feed bag, you're fine.
1835
01:20:49.670 --> 01:20:54.119
Watch out. She might circle the wagons. Okay. Yeah, I mean,
1836
01:20:54.140 --> 01:20:58.380
you had Cash Wheeler talking here. You know, these things
1837
01:20:58.420 --> 01:21:00.399
are always going to be hard to watch. Like, you know,
1838
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:02.220
you got to do them. I get it.
1839
01:21:02.260 --> 01:21:04.500
But yeah, they definitely could have been more in front
1840
01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:04.939
of the crowd.
1841
01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:06.760
Honestly, you probably could have done it where instead of
1842
01:21:06.779 --> 01:21:08.260
having like a single person out there.
1843
01:21:08.619 --> 01:21:11.409
Yeah, double or triple up.
1844
01:21:11.430 --> 01:21:13.069
Yeah, have them talk.
1845
01:21:13.850 --> 01:21:16.510
Have a round table discussion for like 15 minute segments.
1846
01:21:17.020 --> 01:21:19.050
And what they remembered, just talk to each other like
1847
01:21:19.109 --> 01:21:19.750
they're buddies.
1848
01:21:19.770 --> 01:21:20.130
That's all.
1849
01:21:20.329 --> 01:21:20.890
Yeah.
1850
01:21:21.189 --> 01:21:22.930
No, that would, yeah, that would have been, yeah. Instead
1851
01:21:22.970 --> 01:21:24.430
of having a single, but yeah, that would be great.
1852
01:21:24.689 --> 01:21:26.569
I mean, it would have been, it would have been,
1853
01:21:26.649 --> 01:21:28.979
it would have felt more real. Like, I don't know.
1854
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:31.079
But then, yeah, like you said, Renee.
1855
01:21:31.100 --> 01:21:33.300
It would have been a lot more sincere if you
1856
01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:36.239
just had these guys out there talking like people. Yeah.
1857
01:21:36.300 --> 01:21:38.640
About their friend. Yeah.
1858
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:39.319
Yeah.
1859
01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:41.279
No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right.
1860
01:21:42.550 --> 01:21:44.569
And it's one of those things too, where it just, yeah,
1861
01:21:44.590 --> 01:21:47.380
it comes across more real and, it's not like the
1862
01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:50.279
benoit situation where like if you remember watching that episode
1863
01:21:50.300 --> 01:21:53.180
like william regal knew what had happened like new shit
1864
01:21:53.220 --> 01:21:55.159
wasn't right and he was weird about it but like
1865
01:21:55.979 --> 01:21:57.720
it's just the single people doing it they're just gonna
1866
01:21:57.739 --> 01:21:59.300
sit there and cry with it he could have at
1867
01:21:59.319 --> 01:22:01.399
least had the conversations because then you could also like
1868
01:22:02.250 --> 01:22:05.489
You make each other laugh telling stories about things. That's it.
1869
01:22:05.550 --> 01:22:07.609
You would laugh and.
1870
01:22:07.250 --> 01:22:09.520
Cry at the same time. Right. Exactly. Yeah.
1871
01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:11.939
And that's more real. Yeah.
1872
01:22:12.020 --> 01:22:15.039
I mean, my dad, we had to have two funerals
1873
01:22:15.100 --> 01:22:17.239
for him because he had a family in New Jersey
1874
01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:19.850
and the soccer in his high school is here. Like,
1875
01:22:20.189 --> 01:22:22.149
and at both of them, like, yeah, we were crying
1876
01:22:22.189 --> 01:22:24.149
and sad about, but we were laughing with each other
1877
01:22:24.550 --> 01:22:27.050
because yes, you do have to like move forward and
1878
01:22:27.109 --> 01:22:28.210
continue with your life.
1879
01:22:28.590 --> 01:22:30.649
Yeah. Cause you remember a certain thing. You remember when,
1880
01:22:30.670 --> 01:22:33.609
you remember when Joe did this and we all, we
1881
01:22:33.989 --> 01:22:35.819
were golfing and he hit the ball up in the
1882
01:22:35.859 --> 01:22:37.600
air and he hit himself in the balls with his club.
1883
01:22:38.020 --> 01:22:38.840
Oh God. Yeah.
1884
01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:39.460
Yeah.
1885
01:22:39.579 --> 01:22:42.960
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Or that, or, or that, or that,
1886
01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:45.239
you know, harmless prank that he pulled on the three
1887
01:22:45.260 --> 01:22:47.640
of us, you know, where, We got in the car
1888
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:48.859
and the steering wheel was missing.
1889
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:52.060
They can tell road stories with Pac. That would have
1890
01:22:52.090 --> 01:22:52.859
been awesome.
1891
01:22:53.090 --> 01:22:55.229
Yeah, that would have been way better. Yeah, I didn't
1892
01:22:55.250 --> 01:22:56.750
even think about it that way with it, but you're
1893
01:22:57.130 --> 01:23:00.930
absolutely right. But yeah, then Renee comes out and reads
1894
01:23:00.989 --> 01:23:03.510
the family letter and stuff. And I did like, I
1895
01:23:03.550 --> 01:23:05.590
liked that she had the Death Rider patch on. I
1896
01:23:05.630 --> 01:23:06.310
did like that.
1897
01:23:06.729 --> 01:23:07.529
You know what I mean?
1898
01:23:07.550 --> 01:23:08.539
Because that was the tribute with it.
1899
01:23:08.569 --> 01:23:09.289
But yeah, I don't know.
1900
01:23:09.369 --> 01:23:12.069
I did not like this letter.
1901
01:23:12.909 --> 01:23:15.779
Yeah, I didn't either. I really didn't.
1902
01:23:16.699 --> 01:23:19.300
I i yeah i could have done without this and.
1903
01:23:19.220 --> 01:23:22.180
Honestly how about halfway through it it felt like she
1904
01:23:22.220 --> 01:23:24.270
didn't like the letter like at one point she like
1905
01:23:24.310 --> 01:23:26.060
looks over at the announce i think she looked over
1906
01:23:26.090 --> 01:23:28.130
at shivani at the table like the fuck am i
1907
01:23:28.170 --> 01:23:29.250
reading dude i don't.
1908
01:23:29.149 --> 01:23:34.630
Know because all of a sudden yeah it went it's
1909
01:23:34.649 --> 01:23:37.750
going they're reading it she's crying it's fine but then
1910
01:23:37.770 --> 01:23:40.069
all of a sudden it became and tony khan's the
1911
01:23:40.109 --> 01:23:43.239
best person in the world He's so good. And that's
1912
01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:45.340
the part where I was like, oh, Jesus.
1913
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:48.659
Yep. I mean, I talked about it. I talked about
1914
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:51.659
it at the Rebel episode thing of like, I know
1915
01:23:51.699 --> 01:23:54.619
that he just, when they were doing that video package,
1916
01:23:54.699 --> 01:23:56.829
he didn't need to tell you that he's donating the
1917
01:23:56.890 --> 01:23:59.210
money to the ALS.
1918
01:23:59.250 --> 01:24:00.949
Like, you can just say it. You can have somebody
1919
01:24:01.010 --> 01:24:01.529
else say it.
1920
01:24:01.590 --> 01:24:05.529
You know what I mean? Same with like the whole $ 100, 000
1921
01:24:04.850 --> 01:24:07.560
donation thing. Like, I don't know.
1922
01:24:07.619 --> 01:24:09.970
All I was needing to hear was, The family would
1923
01:24:09.989 --> 01:24:13.220
like to thank Tony Khan for his time. That's all
1924
01:24:13.229 --> 01:24:13.689
you had to do.
1925
01:24:14.810 --> 01:24:17.819
Yeah. I mean, it's just like, how many times did
1926
01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:21.340
we hear, like, when Jake the Snake was still employed
1927
01:24:21.380 --> 01:24:23.819
by him? Like, ah, he's the best boss I've ever had. Like,
1928
01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:28.500
nobody says that in the real world. You only say
1929
01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:31.760
that so your boss hears it. Like, it's just the truth.
1930
01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:34.640
I didn't need this part, but. Nope.
1931
01:24:35.109 --> 01:24:37.090
Nope, you're right. And like I said, I don't think
1932
01:24:37.229 --> 01:24:38.930
she liked it either. There was that weird point.
1933
01:24:38.949 --> 01:24:40.430
Didn't seem like it. Yeah.
1934
01:24:40.909 --> 01:24:42.989
It seemed like starting was okay, and then at one
1935
01:24:43.029 --> 01:24:45.859
point she just looks over like, uh, what am I
1936
01:24:45.859 --> 01:24:46.100
doing here?
1937
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:48.399
Yeah, because in the beginning she's actually emotional, and she's
1938
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:51.479
looking at the letter going, I gotta read this?
1939
01:24:51.699 --> 01:24:53.239
Yeah, yeah.
1940
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:53.739
Seemed off.
1941
01:24:53.859 --> 01:24:58.060
I agree. Yeah, it did. And then you had Swerve
1942
01:24:58.100 --> 01:25:00.350
and the New Day come out and just cry in
1943
01:25:00.390 --> 01:25:02.430
the ring. Like, what? I... Huh? Huh?
1944
01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:04.699
I mean, nobody gave a speech.
1945
01:25:04.939 --> 01:25:06.619
They could have had the four of them have a
1946
01:25:06.779 --> 01:25:08.340
fun little conversation or something.
1947
01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:13.100
Why was this necessary? Why did they need to come out?
1948
01:25:13.119 --> 01:25:16.739
I guess because the Trios titles was the last titles
1949
01:25:16.779 --> 01:25:18.949
that Pac held, I guess?
1950
01:25:19.229 --> 01:25:24.090
I don't know. From what we've known, from what we've seen,
1951
01:25:24.170 --> 01:25:26.770
from what we've heard, from what we've gathered over the
1952
01:25:26.810 --> 01:25:29.789
time we've watched AEW, does Pac seem like the kind
1953
01:25:29.829 --> 01:25:35.449
of guy that would want... This or people laughing and
1954
01:25:35.489 --> 01:25:37.869
having a good time and having fun? What do you think?
1955
01:25:38.890 --> 01:25:44.010
Absolutely the latter. If anything else, that's what the Brits are.
1956
01:25:44.050 --> 01:25:47.300
The British people, the stiff upper lip, keep calm and
1957
01:25:47.340 --> 01:25:51.739
carry on. That's part of what they have to do.
1958
01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:54.060
That's how they got through the Blitz and everything. It's
1959
01:25:54.100 --> 01:25:56.880
part of their culture. Shubes and I talk about it
1960
01:25:56.960 --> 01:25:59.319
all the time when we text. It's one of those
1961
01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:05.020
things where this... it's one of those situations where this
1962
01:26:05.060 --> 01:26:08.470
was for the people that are remaining and not for
1963
01:26:08.510 --> 01:26:11.750
the person, you know, like sometimes that's like, if somebody
1964
01:26:11.810 --> 01:26:14.649
dies quickly, it's better for the person passing away. If
1965
01:26:14.689 --> 01:26:16.810
somebody takes, you know, if they get sick and takes
1966
01:26:16.850 --> 01:26:19.289
a long time to die, it's better for the people
1967
01:26:19.329 --> 01:26:21.189
left behind because they have time to process it.
1968
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:24.260
This felt like this was for them and not for him.
1969
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:24.720
Yeah.
1970
01:26:24.819 --> 01:26:25.739
That's a, that's a good way.
1971
01:26:25.979 --> 01:26:28.319
Cause his personality from what we've seen would not have
1972
01:26:28.340 --> 01:26:29.020
liked any of this.
1973
01:26:29.609 --> 01:26:32.109
Yeah no and i mean and um and obviously we
1974
01:26:32.130 --> 01:26:34.329
don't know what he was like backstage everybody says he's
1975
01:26:34.350 --> 01:26:35.489
like the greatest guy with.
1976
01:26:35.489 --> 01:26:38.970
A joker a good time guy yes why do all
1977
01:26:38.989 --> 01:26:39.729
this shit.
1978
01:26:40.069 --> 01:26:42.010
Yeah no like i feel like this would have been
1979
01:26:42.050 --> 01:26:44.810
something we're like you know i think he would have
1980
01:26:44.850 --> 01:26:47.039
wanted people that he would have wanted people to have
1981
01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:49.800
more of a wake than a funeral you know where
1982
01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:52.199
you're yeah like i just we just said having stories
1983
01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:54.689
having stories we told that we don't know about yep
1984
01:26:54.909 --> 01:26:55.949
yes yes.
1985
01:26:55.789 --> 01:26:58.460
Well remember that time pack was on the road in
1986
01:26:58.779 --> 01:27:01.020
uh boise idaho and he jumped out and pissed in
1987
01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:05.140
the road and yeah shit like that they've been great
1988
01:27:05.180 --> 01:27:08.390
you love that stuff not this yeah no you're right
1989
01:27:08.520 --> 01:27:11.329
you're absolutely right yeah no telling stories would have been
1990
01:27:11.350 --> 01:27:13.130
a much better telling.
1991
01:27:12.909 --> 01:27:15.250
Stories like as a group as a trio as.
1992
01:27:15.250 --> 01:27:16.970
A yeah no it would have been a lot better
1993
01:27:16.989 --> 01:27:18.189
this just I don't know.
1994
01:27:18.489 --> 01:27:20.310
And I mean, I get it that you're trying to like,
1995
01:27:20.369 --> 01:27:23.210
like they're trying to process and figure out what's going on.
1996
01:27:23.250 --> 01:27:24.930
And it's a tough, what's a better way to process
1997
01:27:24.970 --> 01:27:25.939
besides humor, dude.
1998
01:27:26.109 --> 01:27:30.760
Exactly. No, it really is. It absolutely is. Like, you know,
1999
01:27:30.819 --> 01:27:33.899
it's not, you've got to be able to like, cause
2000
01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:35.760
it's a way to remember, like, you know, people talk
2001
01:27:35.779 --> 01:27:38.859
about like, you remember the good times, you know, sometimes
2002
01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:41.140
they don't call a funeral, a funeral. It's a celebration
2003
01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:43.859
of life. Like you can't just celebrate life by being sad. Like,
2004
01:27:43.930 --> 01:27:46.729
and I get it that you're sad, but you've got to, Yeah.
2005
01:27:47.149 --> 01:27:50.130
When a comedian dies, do they actually tell jokes and
2006
01:27:50.149 --> 01:27:53.029
roast the guy that died or do they cry? Right.
2007
01:27:53.750 --> 01:27:56.300
Same thing. If the guy backstage is a comedian, bring
2008
01:27:56.340 --> 01:27:57.100
it out. Let's see.
2009
01:27:57.539 --> 01:28:00.239
Tell us something. Yeah. And like, even when you're telling
2010
01:28:00.260 --> 01:28:02.260
the story and laughing, like, like you said, you're going
2011
01:28:02.279 --> 01:28:05.420
to cry with it. You kind of, it's more cathartic
2012
01:28:05.460 --> 01:28:06.220
as opposed to.
2013
01:28:06.260 --> 01:28:08.130
Just being sad about it with it.
2014
01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:12.579
But yes. Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. And then
2015
01:28:13.399 --> 01:28:16.279
Ricochet gave a very long speech here, kind of meandered.
2016
01:28:16.340 --> 01:28:19.239
I don't... I have a hard time listening to him anyway, but.
2017
01:28:19.380 --> 01:28:21.420
Yeah, I mean, he was kind of connected closer to him.
2018
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:23.119
Right, I was going to say, he's... And that was
2019
01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:24.770
why I didn't mind... Like I said, I didn't mind
2020
01:28:24.890 --> 01:28:28.710
Ospreay wrestling because he's English and they've been friends forever. And, like,
2021
01:28:28.789 --> 01:28:31.579
Pac and him, they were on 205 Live together a bunch.
2022
01:28:31.579 --> 01:28:34.039
They wrestled a ton as cruiserweights in WWE.
2023
01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:34.979
Like, that was fun.
2024
01:28:34.979 --> 01:28:38.520
Um but yeah just um but then like this match
2025
01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:42.359
went on for a long time they did it every
2026
01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:46.479
move they know you know um Osprey acted like winning
2027
01:28:46.539 --> 01:28:48.640
it was the greatest moment of his life like he
2028
01:28:48.699 --> 01:28:51.550
celebrated it more than he celebrated winning the goddamn title
2029
01:28:51.970 --> 01:28:52.470
I don't know.
2030
01:28:52.510 --> 01:28:55.949
It's just this is this is one dynamite where I
2031
01:28:56.050 --> 01:28:59.590
actually was going out during the matches yeah no i
2032
01:28:59.689 --> 01:29:01.649
yeah no i'm serious i didn't care about any of
2033
01:29:01.689 --> 01:29:04.130
these no i really didn't they mean nothing to nobody
2034
01:29:04.189 --> 01:29:05.890
i didn't care i wanted to see what was being
2035
01:29:05.930 --> 01:29:06.970
said right no.
2036
01:29:06.989 --> 01:29:08.939
Yeah this is more they were putting on they were
2037
01:29:08.949 --> 01:29:11.579
just putting on the wrestling show like to yeah yeah
2038
01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:13.420
they were they were honoring him with their wrestling which
2039
01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:15.380
i get to a point but also like.
2040
01:29:15.300 --> 01:29:18.579
I think i'm wondering if they thought that doing a
2041
01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:21.279
tribute show with mostly talking and stuff would be insult
2042
01:29:21.300 --> 01:29:24.449
the fans because they paid money and i thought about
2043
01:29:24.470 --> 01:29:26.069
it i think the fans would have liked it more.
2044
01:29:26.420 --> 01:29:28.060
Yeah, and it's one of those things.
2045
01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:30.119
The crowd really didn't know how to react to the matches.
2046
01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:32.960
Yeah, no, they were quiet for a lot of it.
2047
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:34.779
Right. I think it would have been better to have.
2048
01:29:35.270 --> 01:29:35.630
You're right.
2049
01:29:35.949 --> 01:29:37.189
You're right. Yeah, the matches.
2050
01:29:37.710 --> 01:29:38.149
Yeah.
2051
01:29:38.909 --> 01:29:40.369
And it's one of those things, too, where.
2052
01:29:40.770 --> 01:29:43.630
I don't know. I feel like most, especially AEW fans,
2053
01:29:43.670 --> 01:29:46.439
but even wrestling fans in general, like, if you bought
2054
01:29:46.460 --> 01:29:49.840
the ticket weeks ago or days ago or whatever... And
2055
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:51.939
then somebody passes away and you know it's going to
2056
01:29:51.970 --> 01:29:54.949
be a tribute show. You're going into it knowing it's
2057
01:29:54.970 --> 01:29:57.380
going to be a different experience than just a regular
2058
01:29:57.409 --> 01:29:59.380
wrestling show. And they shouldn't worry about it.
2059
01:29:59.380 --> 01:30:00.520
They tried not to do that.
2060
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:00.920
Yeah.
2061
01:30:01.489 --> 01:30:03.369
Having these matches for no reason yes.
2062
01:30:03.229 --> 01:30:04.850
Yep nope you should have had like i said the
2063
01:30:04.909 --> 01:30:06.810
four matches and this like i said you could have
2064
01:30:06.829 --> 01:30:09.489
had this match no problem they shortened like all the
2065
01:30:09.529 --> 01:30:11.840
matches needed to be short and sweet yeah get your
2066
01:30:11.859 --> 01:30:14.100
stuff in get the crowd up hype them up and
2067
01:30:14.140 --> 01:30:15.380
move forward yeah.
2068
01:30:15.140 --> 01:30:17.220
Do the match show me a quick little package on
2069
01:30:17.260 --> 01:30:19.180
pock and then bring the next three four guys in
2070
01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:21.739
to talk about them yeah have the second match do
2071
01:30:21.779 --> 01:30:25.000
the same thing commercial break whatever come back show in
2072
01:30:25.060 --> 01:30:27.739
our video package of pock and have that big video
2073
01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:29.960
package at the end Could have been nice and neat,
2074
01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:32.159
but the matches sucked. Yeah.
2075
01:30:32.300 --> 01:30:33.739
Well, and I mean, it's got to be hard to
2076
01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:34.560
wrestle in this scenario.
2077
01:30:34.579 --> 01:30:36.369
Yes, that's the other thing. Who wants to fucking go
2078
01:30:36.409 --> 01:30:37.989
out there and perform unless you're one of the guys
2079
01:30:38.010 --> 01:30:41.270
that were in this group? Right. Those guys got motivation. Right.
2080
01:30:41.289 --> 01:30:43.850
These guys don't. I can tell. Yeah, exactly. Like, this
2081
01:30:43.909 --> 01:30:46.810
is more of just like... going through the motions because
2082
01:30:46.819 --> 01:30:49.649
we're sad about our buddy, which is, yeah, yeah. And
2083
01:30:49.689 --> 01:30:52.029
that way, yeah, it was just, and I mean, and
2084
01:30:52.329 --> 01:30:54.590
I know some people were like, probably upset about, ah,
2085
01:30:54.810 --> 01:30:56.670
face and heels hugging. Like, I don't mind that way.
2086
01:30:56.689 --> 01:30:58.229
They just, you didn't need to have the matches. Like
2087
01:30:58.289 --> 01:31:01.729
it just, yeah, this could have been a much more, yeah.
2088
01:31:02.210 --> 01:31:05.649
Again, story time with Will Osprey, Ricochet, and Andrade or
2089
01:31:05.689 --> 01:31:07.630
somebody around, that would have been some good stories because
2090
01:31:07.670 --> 01:31:09.329
Ricochet knew Pac like the back of his hand.
2091
01:31:09.710 --> 01:31:10.369
Right, right.
2092
01:31:10.390 --> 01:31:12.949
That would have been awesome. And I hate Ricochet. I
2093
01:31:12.989 --> 01:31:16.289
don't hate, no. I dislike Ricochet, but having him tell
2094
01:31:16.329 --> 01:31:17.329
stories would have been fine.
2095
01:31:17.970 --> 01:31:19.489
I hate him on the mic, but I would have
2096
01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:22.300
liked to hear him telling a story with the group. Yeah. Yes.
2097
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:24.380
Hit the like button, people. Please. Thank you.
2098
01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:27.699
Yes. Please and thank you. Like, subscribe, share. We do
2099
01:31:27.739 --> 01:31:30.340
appreciate all 29 folks that have been in the audience.
2100
01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:32.199
We've kept the audience most of the show.
2101
01:31:32.239 --> 01:31:35.779
We appreciate that. We are happy to have you guys
2102
01:31:35.819 --> 01:31:36.260
here with us.
2103
01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:38.420
We know you can do anything with your Thursday night,
2104
01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:40.439
especially now that we're going up against Thursday night football.
2105
01:31:40.460 --> 01:31:44.939
So I really appreciate everybody hanging out with us. And then, yeah,
2106
01:31:44.979 --> 01:31:46.689
because it went to Ospreay again. Like, you could have
2107
01:31:46.729 --> 01:31:49.710
combined that. Ospreay and Ricochet could have told a story
2108
01:31:49.750 --> 01:31:52.750
together if they needed to wrestle fine, but it just
2109
01:31:52.770 --> 01:31:54.350
didn't seem like they wanted to. Yeah, you kind of
2110
01:31:54.390 --> 01:31:56.750
nailed it where the people that were in his group,
2111
01:31:57.350 --> 01:31:59.909
those folks needed to wrestle, especially, like, the ones that
2112
01:31:59.930 --> 01:32:03.420
have been with him, you know, like Claudio and Mach specifically,
2113
01:32:03.460 --> 01:32:06.020
where they were in the Blackpool Combat Club, which then
2114
01:32:06.060 --> 01:32:08.479
became the Death Riders. You know, they've been in it
2115
01:32:08.619 --> 01:32:10.220
forever with them, so it doesn't.
2116
01:32:10.340 --> 01:32:12.560
Every match not involving the Death Riders should have been
2117
01:32:12.579 --> 01:32:13.979
a sit-down talking segment. Yep.
2118
01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:20.029
Absolutely. Absolutely. And then the next match was the women's
2119
01:32:20.090 --> 01:32:22.409
match where it was Marina Shafir.
2120
01:32:24.590 --> 01:32:27.710
Was it Thunder Rosa and somebody else? I forget who
2121
01:32:27.729 --> 01:32:28.340
the other one was.
2122
01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:34.350
No, Persephone was the opponent, because Persephone was with Britt Baker.
2123
01:32:34.390 --> 01:32:36.170
Hang on, I can pull up here once. What is
2124
01:32:36.189 --> 01:32:40.270
this match here? It was... Oh, Haiyan. Right, I forgot.
2125
01:32:40.989 --> 01:32:43.069
We just met her, so I didn't know her. Yeah,
2126
01:32:43.229 --> 01:32:46.949
it was Marina Shafir, Haiyan, and Thunder Rosa versus Mercedes, Persephone,
2127
01:32:46.989 --> 01:32:47.609
and Britt Baker.
2128
01:32:47.710 --> 01:32:48.390
That's what it was.
2129
01:32:49.729 --> 01:32:53.189
And this was all about Marina, which it should have been. Marina,
2130
01:32:53.310 --> 01:32:55.350
I mean, there's been part... How long have they been
2131
01:32:55.369 --> 01:32:58.170
in this group together with it? This was putting her over...
2132
01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:00.060
And you could tell it was tough on her. She
2133
01:33:00.100 --> 01:33:03.939
was crying, as you would expect. But this was also
2134
01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:06.279
fine in the sense where you could have it. She
2135
01:33:06.300 --> 01:33:08.340
didn't have to wrestle a singles match. She was in
2136
01:33:08.380 --> 01:33:10.359
a trio, so she could take the time out of
2137
01:33:10.380 --> 01:33:12.979
the ring. And this match wasn't too long. This is
2138
01:33:13.020 --> 01:33:15.539
what the matches should have been. Quick, to the point,
2139
01:33:15.939 --> 01:33:18.079
put the person over that's in the group, move on.
2140
01:33:18.100 --> 01:33:20.300
The only one that should have worked the singles match
2141
01:33:20.340 --> 01:33:22.470
during this whole time was Moxley. Moxley, I think, could
2142
01:33:22.510 --> 01:33:24.739
handle it. The other guys... have them in her groups
2143
01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:25.720
like this one here is.
2144
01:33:25.699 --> 01:33:30.199
Fine moxley just like we said not against orange cassidy
2145
01:33:30.500 --> 01:33:33.050
right so many better people that could have been against
2146
01:33:33.090 --> 01:33:36.050
like yeah no when orange cassidy's music hit i like
2147
01:33:36.069 --> 01:33:39.069
i literally was like oh come on really nobody wants
2148
01:33:39.109 --> 01:33:42.529
that um and then also to a you know brit
2149
01:33:42.550 --> 01:33:44.939
baker but in her hometown i feel like they were
2150
01:33:44.949 --> 01:33:46.800
gonna probably do more for this show with it but
2151
01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:48.760
it was what it was uh but.
2152
01:33:48.659 --> 01:33:51.170
You know they still had this moment where she's pissy
2153
01:33:51.210 --> 01:33:51.630
with it.
2154
01:33:51.590 --> 01:33:53.250
Where, you know, I'm not sure what they're going to
2155
01:33:53.270 --> 01:33:55.060
do in the storyline with it, but, and then Moxley
2156
01:33:55.069 --> 01:33:58.300
comes out to give Marina a hug. Why is Aubrey
2157
01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:01.979
still in the ring? She does not need to be
2158
01:34:02.020 --> 01:34:04.850
in the ring for this moment. There was no, there
2159
01:34:04.890 --> 01:34:08.359
was no, she does in her mind. There was like, again, I,
2160
01:34:09.029 --> 01:34:13.029
I hate to, I feel like a misogynist. You can
2161
01:34:13.090 --> 01:34:15.050
piss me off. Like it did like get the fuck
2162
01:34:15.130 --> 01:34:17.829
out of the ring. You're not a wrestler. You are
2163
01:34:17.890 --> 01:34:20.840
not in the death riders. You are a referee. You
2164
01:34:20.850 --> 01:34:23.920
need to be like, you know, seen only during the
2165
01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:26.659
match scene.
2166
01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:28.739
She could have made the three count and give Marina
2167
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:31.310
a hug and roll out. Yes. That would have been fine.
2168
01:34:31.770 --> 01:34:34.649
And then when Moxley, her and Moxley like tag out
2169
01:34:34.689 --> 01:34:36.050
kind of leaving, you know, or.
2170
01:34:36.050 --> 01:34:38.300
She comes in or she leaves and he comes in.
2171
01:34:38.699 --> 01:34:38.880
Yeah.
2172
01:34:38.979 --> 01:34:41.180
I just, I felt like, you know, she wants, I'm
2173
01:34:41.260 --> 01:34:41.739
part of it.
2174
01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:44.100
I'm a rest. I'm here. I'm one of the boys.
2175
01:34:44.159 --> 01:34:46.699
Like I figured she would stay. Yeah.
2176
01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:49.189
There's no need for all of her. Yeah.
2177
01:34:50.369 --> 01:34:53.390
We're at 28 likes so a few people can two
2178
01:34:53.449 --> 01:34:55.590
people can hit the like button before we leave like
2179
01:34:55.609 --> 01:34:57.130
to be at 30 when we do our live shows
2180
01:34:57.170 --> 01:34:59.970
folks but yeah and we appreciate the likes nonetheless but
2181
01:35:00.149 --> 01:35:01.609
thank you all peace out.
2182
01:35:01.489 --> 01:35:04.460
Yes absolutely thank you so so much for hanging out with.
2183
01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:08.460
Us um and then yeah you were just in the
2184
01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:10.640
ring you could have done this in the ring with
2185
01:35:10.699 --> 01:35:15.289
the new day like just mother fucker just You're right, though.
2186
01:35:15.590 --> 01:35:19.850
I didn't think about doing the promos together. You're right. God,
2187
01:35:19.890 --> 01:35:22.180
you nailed that, George. It would have been so much better.
2188
01:35:22.819 --> 01:35:25.420
It would have been great. It would have been great. Seriously.
2189
01:35:25.500 --> 01:35:28.779
Or even if he just does this with the New Day.
2190
01:35:29.140 --> 01:35:33.119
Austin Creed could not speak. They worked together for how
2191
01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:36.039
long in WWE? He was happy to be back. Austin
2192
01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:38.859
Creed was bawling. And that's fine. That's how he was
2193
01:35:38.899 --> 01:35:41.390
dealing with it. Swerve could have given his little thing
2194
01:35:41.430 --> 01:35:44.130
that he did here... but not just in the ring
2195
01:35:44.170 --> 01:35:45.829
with the two with the two of them or with
2196
01:35:45.930 --> 01:35:47.489
Nana two with three of them and then they all
2197
01:35:47.529 --> 01:35:50.579
hug afterwards like Kofi and Woods didn't have to say
2198
01:35:50.619 --> 01:35:51.100
anything but.
2199
01:35:51.060 --> 01:35:54.539
I guarantee you I guarantee you if they're in a
2200
01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:59.090
circle talking about Pac Creed would start thinking of stories
2201
01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:00.789
and they could you can cry and talk at the
2202
01:36:00.829 --> 01:36:04.090
same time and tell a funny story but people again
2203
01:36:04.149 --> 01:36:06.529
people don't understand the value of humor during all this
2204
01:36:06.550 --> 01:36:09.170
this would have been much better with stories i'm gonna
2205
01:36:09.189 --> 01:36:10.430
say it till i'm blue in the face.
2206
01:36:10.390 --> 01:36:12.909
No you're absolutely right and also too like sometimes even
2207
01:36:12.970 --> 01:36:15.710
if it's you know when somebody else says a story
2208
01:36:16.090 --> 01:36:18.229
you know you kind of interject and then you you
2209
01:36:18.270 --> 01:36:20.399
kind of find your footing and able to speak you
2210
01:36:20.420 --> 01:36:22.819
know what i mean like yeah yeah yeah yeah no
2211
01:36:22.859 --> 01:36:25.399
whether it's humor or not but just this was yes
2212
01:36:25.500 --> 01:36:27.619
no definitely done that um yes.
2213
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:29.539
Or could be telling a story and allison creed thinks
2214
01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:32.579
of the time that he uh right he put something
2215
01:36:32.659 --> 01:36:34.220
up on the shelf and it fell on his head
2216
01:36:34.279 --> 01:36:35.659
something like damn.
2217
01:36:35.220 --> 01:36:36.859
Right or like the time that they got stuck in
2218
01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:38.600
a snowstorm together and we had to sit in the
2219
01:36:38.659 --> 01:36:40.550
car for four and a half hours because we couldn't
2220
01:36:40.560 --> 01:36:42.819
get out of the road yeah.
2221
01:36:42.130 --> 01:36:44.449
There's great stuff for people like us to hear.
2222
01:36:44.789 --> 01:36:47.630
Yes because it's stuff we don't know it's stories that
2223
01:36:47.649 --> 01:36:50.189
you wouldn't ever be told anyway because they're not that
2224
01:36:50.409 --> 01:36:53.390
you know until these moments and they're trivial then yeah
2225
01:36:53.449 --> 01:36:55.470
it helps you connect with and honestly probably help the
2226
01:36:55.529 --> 01:36:59.010
fans connect more with pock and more with the wrestlers too.
2227
01:36:58.770 --> 01:37:02.159
But The fans live would have appreciated it more because,
2228
01:37:02.180 --> 01:37:03.659
like I said, they didn't seem to know how to
2229
01:37:03.720 --> 01:37:07.060
react to the matches because they weren't really sure how
2230
01:37:07.079 --> 01:37:08.800
to react. I mean, how do you react to these things?
2231
01:37:08.859 --> 01:37:12.239
I mean, we're not here to mock Matt. We're here
2232
01:37:12.270 --> 01:37:15.210
to pay tribute. So let's pay some fucking tribute.
2233
01:37:15.689 --> 01:37:18.989
Aside from, like, they were reacting to Moxley and then
2234
01:37:19.449 --> 01:37:21.569
the main event with all the Death Riders, like, they
2235
01:37:21.590 --> 01:37:23.750
were responding to that because they knew, like, hey, these
2236
01:37:23.770 --> 01:37:26.140
were his guys, that you could get into that one
2237
01:37:26.180 --> 01:37:30.079
with it, but not yeah you're right you are right
2238
01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:33.260
um shout out to our new subscriber we just gained
2239
01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:35.630
a new subscriber during tonight we appreciate that thanks all
2240
01:37:36.130 --> 01:37:38.970
uh and then the other thing though is i'm like
2241
01:37:38.989 --> 01:37:40.510
i said fine having the death riders in the match
2242
01:37:40.569 --> 01:37:42.989
no problem at all fine having to face the callous
2243
01:37:43.010 --> 01:37:44.819
family because they're all the people you got to beat
2244
01:37:44.859 --> 01:37:48.359
up anyway why the fuck was wardlow in this yeah
2245
01:37:48.579 --> 01:37:52.920
i had a problem with this He's not from Pittsburgh.
2246
01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:56.300
He's from Cleveland. I thought for what I was watching,
2247
01:37:56.319 --> 01:37:58.220
I'm like, oh, it's his hometown. It's not his hometown.
2248
01:37:58.439 --> 01:37:59.039
What the hell?
2249
01:37:59.460 --> 01:38:03.390
No. I think they promised this last week. I think
2250
01:38:03.409 --> 01:38:04.729
they promised this last week.
2251
01:38:04.750 --> 01:38:07.250
Not even last week. They promised it at, I think
2252
01:38:07.270 --> 01:38:09.229
it was, but they just said he was coming back.
2253
01:38:09.529 --> 01:38:10.770
Shout out to Shabir here.
2254
01:38:10.789 --> 01:38:12.970
That's our new subscriber. Thank you so much for subscribing.
2255
01:38:13.310 --> 01:38:15.250
Yeah, they should have postponed this.
2256
01:38:15.390 --> 01:38:17.829
This did not, and no one would have known, even
2257
01:38:17.869 --> 01:38:20.109
if it was fully promised that he was going to wrestle,
2258
01:38:20.130 --> 01:38:23.569
like nobody would have cared. Nobody would have cared if.
2259
01:38:23.520 --> 01:38:26.859
We're not putting in a multi-man either. Having a single
2260
01:38:26.899 --> 01:38:28.640
match to spray some guy.
2261
01:38:28.699 --> 01:38:30.750
Yes, that's what it should have been. It shouldn't have been.
2262
01:38:30.770 --> 01:38:33.289
It should have been a match. He beats a nobody
2263
01:38:33.329 --> 01:38:36.170
in a squad, a no name, somebody in a squash match.
2264
01:38:36.500 --> 01:38:39.000
This was another place to put somebody coming back because, again,
2265
01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:41.199
the fans didn't quite know how to react to this.
2266
01:38:41.420 --> 01:38:44.409
And not just somebody coming back. Right. And not just
2267
01:38:44.430 --> 01:38:47.989
somebody coming back, but somebody who was really, really over
2268
01:38:48.130 --> 01:38:50.590
at a point or two in this company. Somebody who's
2269
01:38:50.630 --> 01:38:53.590
a big guy that is a talent and has been
2270
01:38:53.630 --> 01:38:56.970
gone for how long? One more week ain't going to
2271
01:38:57.029 --> 01:39:00.569
hurt anybody. He's been off TV for two goddamn years,
2272
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:02.939
minus that one time he came back and blew out
2273
01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:04.319
his peck right away or whatever.
2274
01:39:04.359 --> 01:39:08.350
Yeah, because you can't do it. Again, the fans don't
2275
01:39:08.390 --> 01:39:10.359
know how to react to this because this is not
2276
01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:13.380
a thing where you're supposed to go crazy for somebody
2277
01:39:13.420 --> 01:39:16.779
coming back. That's not the point of the show. Yep. Yep.
2278
01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:19.979
Nope. You're absolutely right. And so is Travis there where, yeah,
2279
01:39:20.039 --> 01:39:22.300
he should have, they should have done more vignettes of Wardlow.
2280
01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:24.600
Like he's coming back. Not like you got to do.
2281
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:26.420
What was it? Veer is coming or whatever.
2282
01:39:26.460 --> 01:39:26.619
Yeah.
2283
01:39:26.840 --> 01:39:29.590
But like, just have a couple more things. Cause I
2284
01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:31.939
don't think I, from, I remember watching all out and
2285
01:39:32.159 --> 01:39:34.270
I've seen the video package. I don't remember them saying
2286
01:39:34.289 --> 01:39:37.430
like wrestling Wednesday. It was just like Wardlow's coming back.
2287
01:39:37.789 --> 01:39:40.430
You know, you saw Pat, you know, yeah, this, this,
2288
01:39:40.890 --> 01:39:43.109
this shocked me when he walked out.
2289
01:39:43.149 --> 01:39:45.149
I'm like, he came out. I was shocked too, actually.
2290
01:39:45.170 --> 01:39:45.409
Yeah.
2291
01:39:45.649 --> 01:39:49.710
Right. Like, a multi-man match in this environment good good
2292
01:39:49.909 --> 01:39:50.529
good call.
2293
01:39:50.350 --> 01:39:52.949
Yeah right like even if you want to like have
2294
01:39:52.979 --> 01:39:54.739
him with in front of the audience like he can
2295
01:39:54.760 --> 01:39:56.600
be like on the outside of the ring trying to
2296
01:39:56.640 --> 01:40:00.300
help the yeah this was real stew especially with the
2297
01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:03.949
callous family there's enough of them you don't need to
2298
01:40:04.050 --> 01:40:07.510
put wardlow in the fucking how many cows family members
2299
01:40:07.609 --> 01:40:10.229
are there for fuck's sake oh god this was just
2300
01:40:10.829 --> 01:40:12.369
Of all the things they did in the show, this
2301
01:40:12.409 --> 01:40:13.470
was the most baffling.
2302
01:40:13.770 --> 01:40:16.350
This was bad. This was mind-boggling to me.
2303
01:40:16.810 --> 01:40:22.180
Mind-boggling. And then the next mind-boggling part was, so the
2304
01:40:22.260 --> 01:40:24.819
Death Riders come out, and then it looks like Moxie's
2305
01:40:24.840 --> 01:40:26.640
going to wrestle in this match too, but then he
2306
01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:29.279
goes to the announce table, and he's like, ah, we're
2307
01:40:29.300 --> 01:40:31.899
just rolling with the punches or whatever. And Daniel Bryan,
2308
01:40:32.020 --> 01:40:34.930
or Bryan Danielson comes out to his music in his ear,
2309
01:40:35.350 --> 01:40:37.850
and the crowd does blow because people love Daniel Bryan.
2310
01:40:38.189 --> 01:40:41.090
But hey, he should never have wrestled and been in
2311
01:40:41.130 --> 01:40:43.270
this match. Or if he was going to do it,
2312
01:40:43.770 --> 01:40:47.170
he doesn't take any bumps. He comes in and just
2313
01:40:47.270 --> 01:40:49.270
hits an offensive move or three and then lead.
2314
01:40:50.109 --> 01:40:50.869
You don't even do that.
2315
01:40:50.970 --> 01:40:51.489
No, I don't either.
2316
01:40:53.470 --> 01:40:55.689
He was perfect when he showed up. He came out,
2317
01:40:55.970 --> 01:40:59.590
gave Mox a hug. That was enough. I don't want
2318
01:40:59.630 --> 01:41:01.630
to see this man wrestle. And clearly he's not in
2319
01:41:01.649 --> 01:41:03.689
the best shape. He's wearing a t-shirt for a reason.
2320
01:41:03.750 --> 01:41:04.390
You know what I mean?
2321
01:41:04.810 --> 01:41:05.029
Yeah.
2322
01:41:05.050 --> 01:41:07.649
When you're going Ric Flair t-shirt, like there's a reason
2323
01:41:07.789 --> 01:41:08.289
for it.
2324
01:41:08.689 --> 01:41:11.949
Yeah. Anything he comes out and does commentary.
2325
01:41:11.970 --> 01:41:12.710
Yeah.
2326
01:41:13.350 --> 01:41:16.489
With Moxley, that would have been fine. Or like I said,
2327
01:41:16.510 --> 01:41:18.590
in the beginning, when they came out and he hugged Moxley,
2328
01:41:18.649 --> 01:41:20.890
that should have been story time with those three, those
2329
01:41:20.909 --> 01:41:22.369
two guys. Yeah.
2330
01:41:22.850 --> 01:41:23.130
Yeah.
2331
01:41:23.170 --> 01:41:24.810
There's no reason to have him in the ring, especially
2332
01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:28.850
with all that. he can't be in the commentary team
2333
01:41:28.869 --> 01:41:29.789
because he can't.
2334
01:41:29.670 --> 01:41:32.710
Travel right and we all know that and like we
2335
01:41:32.750 --> 01:41:35.689
all know the history and and again like you said
2336
01:41:35.710 --> 01:41:38.449
the last time he was with the death riders they
2337
01:41:38.529 --> 01:41:41.449
tried to kill him it wasn't moxie was the perfect
2338
01:41:41.489 --> 01:41:45.939
main perpetrator claudio was there wheeler was there you know.
2339
01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:47.840
I was actually sad to see i was actually sad
2340
01:41:47.859 --> 01:41:49.039
to see him come out and wrestle.
2341
01:41:49.329 --> 01:41:51.510
I was too. I didn't want to see this at all.
2342
01:41:51.890 --> 01:41:53.770
The two things that bother me the most in this
2343
01:41:53.789 --> 01:41:56.789
show is Excalibur not taking his fucking mask off to
2344
01:41:56.850 --> 01:42:01.350
give that speech and Daniel Bryan, Daniel Bryan, Bryan Danielson wrestling.
2345
01:42:01.449 --> 01:42:03.840
Like I just didn't need it. And even if they
2346
01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:05.960
wanted to like have him be the reason the Death
2347
01:42:06.020 --> 01:42:09.399
Riders win, like he's the manager on the outside and
2348
01:42:09.420 --> 01:42:11.460
he runs and delivers one running knee.
2349
01:42:11.859 --> 01:42:12.100
Fine.
2350
01:42:12.699 --> 01:42:16.680
Fine with that. Wrestling at a match, taking bumps. The
2351
01:42:16.739 --> 01:42:18.600
last thing I wanted to see is taking a bump.
2352
01:42:18.949 --> 01:42:21.930
Yeah, I do know that, like, okay, said he wanted
2353
01:42:21.970 --> 01:42:24.409
to wrestle. Sure. I told Tony he wanted to.
2354
01:42:24.470 --> 01:42:26.630
Tony can't say no.
2355
01:42:26.689 --> 01:42:28.609
That's an easy no. It's an easy no for anybody.
2356
01:42:28.689 --> 01:42:29.409
It really is.
2357
01:42:30.689 --> 01:42:32.689
Here's the thing is, Tony doesn't even have to say no.
2358
01:42:32.979 --> 01:42:35.420
Go talk to Doc Sampson. Have Doc Sampson say no.
2359
01:42:35.659 --> 01:42:36.800
And yeah, I'm a dumb idiot.
2360
01:42:36.859 --> 01:42:38.479
I'm fine with that. I'm good with that.
2361
01:42:38.779 --> 01:42:42.100
I've been a dumb idiot and I'll stay that way.
2362
01:42:42.180 --> 01:42:44.039
You just tell him you're going to come out and
2363
01:42:44.060 --> 01:42:46.899
you're going to do commentary. That's your gig for tonight.
2364
01:42:47.840 --> 01:42:50.340
But I want to get in there. No, we're good.
2365
01:42:50.359 --> 01:42:52.810
Maybe you can come in and trip his foot. Right.
2366
01:42:53.470 --> 01:42:56.409
You know, if somebody are running knee on the outside,
2367
01:42:56.470 --> 01:42:58.630
you can do that because that's your knee and you
2368
01:42:58.649 --> 01:43:02.310
don't fall down. I, whatever, but just wrestling in a, I,
2369
01:43:02.329 --> 01:43:03.930
you could, but not as good.
2370
01:43:03.989 --> 01:43:06.479
It's just, Hey, not, you're not taking planned bumps.
2371
01:43:06.609 --> 01:43:12.979
Right. That's no reason. None. And like, honestly too, when
2372
01:43:13.020 --> 01:43:16.079
he came out, I thought the crowd was excited because
2373
01:43:16.100 --> 01:43:18.380
he was in his gear and then they weren't because
2374
01:43:18.420 --> 01:43:19.550
he was in his gear. You know what I mean?
2375
01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:21.369
Like they were like, Oh, we get to see Danielson wrestle.
2376
01:43:22.140 --> 01:43:23.420
Oh shit. Do we really want to see that?
2377
01:43:24.100 --> 01:43:26.340
You felt like it's tough to, it's tough to put
2378
01:43:26.380 --> 01:43:27.720
these people in that situation.
2379
01:43:27.739 --> 01:43:29.439
Yeah, it really is.
2380
01:43:29.470 --> 01:43:32.250
You're not there to see Brian Danielson wrestling. You're not
2381
01:43:32.270 --> 01:43:34.810
there to see Wardlow appear. You're not there for that.
2382
01:43:34.829 --> 01:43:37.130
You're there to pay tribute to a fallen comrade.
2383
01:43:37.170 --> 01:43:41.710
Yeah, no, totally. Yeah, no, this match. And again, like
2384
01:43:41.729 --> 01:43:44.310
we said, they needed, they totally needed to have this
2385
01:43:44.369 --> 01:43:47.460
match as the main event with the death riders going
2386
01:43:47.579 --> 01:43:50.880
over on whoever, but yeah, it didn't need to be
2387
01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:52.819
over with Wardlow and.
2388
01:43:52.739 --> 01:43:57.569
With Danielson in the meds. Like you just, uh, bad moves,
2389
01:43:57.689 --> 01:43:58.189
bad moves.
2390
01:43:58.750 --> 01:44:01.810
Um, but then, yeah. So then they're all, uh, they were,
2391
01:44:01.850 --> 01:44:04.109
they kind of all gathered around that chair and then
2392
01:44:04.149 --> 01:44:05.869
they show a great video package.
2393
01:44:06.270 --> 01:44:07.149
This was awesome.
2394
01:44:07.510 --> 01:44:09.010
Yes. This was great.
2395
01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:11.939
This was the only point where I almost teared up.
2396
01:44:12.460 --> 01:44:16.550
Like I've said before, I'm a good compartmentalizer. Ever since
2397
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:20.649
my dad died, I tried to train myself not to
2398
01:44:20.689 --> 01:44:23.409
let people who I don't know personally, not to let
2399
01:44:23.489 --> 01:44:26.989
their deaths impact me too much. Obviously, I'll care, but
2400
01:44:27.090 --> 01:44:30.140
I'm not going to let it affect me too much.
2401
01:44:30.180 --> 01:44:32.880
I only have so much emotions. I try not to
2402
01:44:32.920 --> 01:44:35.779
spend them all. But this was tough. It was a
2403
01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:39.449
great video package. It was very well done. It wasn't
2404
01:44:39.510 --> 01:44:40.050
too long.
2405
01:44:40.109 --> 01:44:42.550
But it was long enough. You know, four and a half,
2406
01:44:42.630 --> 01:44:43.229
five minutes.
2407
01:44:43.270 --> 01:44:46.109
That was perfect. Honestly, when it started, I was expecting
2408
01:44:46.149 --> 01:44:47.970
it to be like 10 to 15. I'm like, that's
2409
01:44:47.989 --> 01:44:50.460
going to be too much. This was done well. Back
2410
01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:52.600
to what we said it all out. Clearly, they've got
2411
01:44:52.899 --> 01:44:53.220
that there.
2412
01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:53.439
They have.
2413
01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:56.760
Tony has put trust in the. I think it's Mike
2414
01:44:56.779 --> 01:44:57.760
Mansuri is who it is.
2415
01:44:58.060 --> 01:45:00.760
The the video package guy, which is great because the
2416
01:45:00.779 --> 01:45:02.539
video packages have been a hell.
2417
01:45:02.340 --> 01:45:03.699
Of a lot better moving forward.
2418
01:45:04.810 --> 01:45:06.170
That was tough. Yeah.
2419
01:45:06.189 --> 01:45:06.949
Yeah. Yeah.
2420
01:45:07.619 --> 01:45:10.319
No, this one was a tough part.
2421
01:45:11.130 --> 01:45:15.329
But as it should have been. Yeah, absolutely.
2422
01:45:15.369 --> 01:45:19.779
You're done with the night. Yeah. Show the people and
2423
01:45:19.859 --> 01:45:22.180
get emotion out of the people. Because they've been through
2424
01:45:22.239 --> 01:45:22.720
it all now.
2425
01:45:23.579 --> 01:45:26.039
Yeah. Like you said, if you spent the whole show
2426
01:45:26.659 --> 01:45:30.380
having these round table or back and forth discussions about Pac, we,
2427
01:45:30.779 --> 01:45:32.779
we would have felt like we knew him so much
2428
01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:34.960
better before this started, you know what I mean? And
2429
01:45:34.979 --> 01:45:37.159
then it, not that it wasn't impactful as it was,
2430
01:45:37.300 --> 01:45:38.720
but like you said, if they'd have been telling those
2431
01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:41.039
stories and talking about it, like it would have been
2432
01:45:41.079 --> 01:45:43.159
even more impactful. Cause then you also could have like
2433
01:45:43.460 --> 01:45:47.439
had intercut scenes where you see him like hugging somebody's arm. Like, Oh, I,
2434
01:45:47.479 --> 01:45:49.100
they told that story where they were locked in the
2435
01:45:49.119 --> 01:45:50.119
snow or whatever.
2436
01:45:50.159 --> 01:45:51.939
You could, you could have just put a table in
2437
01:45:51.970 --> 01:45:53.689
the ring with four chairs around it and just move
2438
01:45:53.699 --> 01:45:55.329
it out during the matches and bring it back in. Like,
2439
01:45:56.109 --> 01:45:57.430
like that would have been fine the.
2440
01:45:57.329 --> 01:46:02.710
Picture yeah yes yes god damn it yes um and
2441
01:46:02.729 --> 01:46:04.750
then the last shot with the chair with the chair
2442
01:46:05.029 --> 01:46:06.729
that was you know and the towel on it and
2443
01:46:06.750 --> 01:46:09.710
the spotlight and the death rider surrounding it great that
2444
01:46:09.750 --> 01:46:15.460
was fantastic too but again danielson wrestling and wardlow in
2445
01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:18.640
wardlow i know he didn't take the pin but he's
2446
01:46:18.699 --> 01:46:20.560
on the team that took the loss.
2447
01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:22.670
Like Like we talk about every time in.
2448
01:46:22.649 --> 01:46:26.510
This company, people debut and lose or come back and lose.
2449
01:46:26.529 --> 01:46:27.850
That's so Vince.
2450
01:46:27.989 --> 01:46:30.850
I paid no attention to the matches, honestly. Done.
2451
01:46:31.210 --> 01:46:32.270
Yeah.
2452
01:46:32.689 --> 01:46:36.229
Because I said the people that were supposed to wrestle did,
2453
01:46:36.550 --> 01:46:38.750
but the people that weren't supposed to wrestle also wrestled.
2454
01:46:38.930 --> 01:46:40.750
I didn't want to see any of that.
2455
01:46:40.869 --> 01:46:42.109
No, I didn't need to see Orange Cast.
2456
01:46:42.170 --> 01:46:43.930
It wasn't the name of the show. The name of
2457
01:46:43.949 --> 01:46:46.390
the show was a tribute to Pac. That's what I
2458
01:46:46.430 --> 01:46:49.430
wanted to see. When I tune in, that's what I
2459
01:46:49.470 --> 01:46:52.199
wanted to see. I don't want to see Orange Cassidy wrestle.
2460
01:46:52.460 --> 01:46:53.899
I don't want to see, I want to see a
2461
01:46:53.939 --> 01:46:57.239
Death Riders, John Moxley in the singles, Death Riders in
2462
01:46:57.260 --> 01:46:59.739
the tag, Marina Schaefer in a tag probably because she
2463
01:46:59.779 --> 01:47:03.100
can't work a singles match. I get that. That's fine. Right.
2464
01:47:03.119 --> 01:47:05.539
Nothing personal against her, but you can't expect her to
2465
01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:05.960
do that.
2466
01:47:06.279 --> 01:47:06.500
Right.
2467
01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:09.340
So just give me the three and then surround, give me,
2468
01:47:09.590 --> 01:47:10.550
give me laughter.
2469
01:47:11.010 --> 01:47:11.829
Make me laugh.
2470
01:47:12.350 --> 01:47:14.770
Make me know, Pox, when this last thing comes up,
2471
01:47:15.250 --> 01:47:16.800
now I'm invested 110%. Yes.
2472
01:47:16.930 --> 01:47:21.590
And, You know, it's one of those things, too, where
2473
01:47:22.189 --> 01:47:25.100
this show didn't need to be a two-hour and 20-minute show. Like,
2474
01:47:25.140 --> 01:47:26.600
this one could have been the one where you hit
2475
01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:29.939
your fucking time because you only have the three matches. And, like,
2476
01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.319
maybe it goes a little over because story time got
2477
01:47:32.340 --> 01:47:32.579
more intense.
2478
01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:34.380
Right, four minutes over because of the package.
2479
01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:36.399
That would have been fine. Yeah, exactly.
2480
01:47:36.739 --> 01:47:38.920
Even up to, like, eight to ten minutes, cool.
2481
01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:41.189
But, like, this was... It didn't need to go as
2482
01:47:41.229 --> 01:47:44.369
long as the show went because you didn't need... Like
2483
01:47:44.430 --> 01:47:48.020
I said, honestly... I was fine with every match. Like
2484
01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:50.159
I said, we didn't need Danielson and we didn't need
2485
01:47:50.180 --> 01:47:54.100
Orange Cassidy, but the matches, you didn't need the elite match.
2486
01:47:54.140 --> 01:47:56.079
If you cut that out of the show, they would
2487
01:47:56.100 --> 01:48:02.720
have hit their time. You know, I just, yeah, it was...
2488
01:48:03.100 --> 01:48:05.180
They did it, you know, that's how they did their show,
2489
01:48:05.220 --> 01:48:08.659
but I just didn't need... Yeah, didn't need the elite wrestling,
2490
01:48:08.939 --> 01:48:12.659
didn't need Danielson wrestling, didn't need Orange Cassidy wrestling, didn't
2491
01:48:12.699 --> 01:48:15.479
need Wardlow wrestling. The rest of it was fine, but...
2492
01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:18.770
yeah no and that was I mean and that was
2493
01:48:18.810 --> 01:48:21.279
the show I mean it was a good tribute overall
2494
01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:23.100
but it would have could have been so much better
2495
01:48:23.399 --> 01:48:26.149
if you'd have spent more time with them telling those
2496
01:48:26.189 --> 01:48:29.350
stories in the ring in front of people laughing and
2497
01:48:30.069 --> 01:48:32.630
getting through it together. Cause that's more like, I kept saying,
2498
01:48:32.649 --> 01:48:35.510
we're a family, we're a family. Yeah. That's what families
2499
01:48:35.609 --> 01:48:36.949
do every time.
2500
01:48:36.970 --> 01:48:39.770
They tell people there's families and they show individual people
2501
01:48:39.829 --> 01:48:40.689
telling stories.
2502
01:48:41.069 --> 01:48:41.390
Yeah.
2503
01:48:41.430 --> 01:48:42.609
That's not how it works.
2504
01:48:42.649 --> 01:48:45.569
Yeah, no, that's exactly, exactly. Like, I mean, I can
2505
01:48:45.590 --> 01:48:49.739
remember when my grandmother passed away, my uncle, her son, like,
2506
01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:51.850
I think we're talking about like, We were talking because
2507
01:48:51.890 --> 01:48:54.430
my grandmother, she was like five foot tall and the
2508
01:48:54.489 --> 01:48:57.350
loudest person that we knew. And my uncle like made
2509
01:48:57.369 --> 01:48:59.750
the joke that that passed on to me because I'm
2510
01:48:59.789 --> 01:49:01.520
now like the loudest person in my family.
2511
01:49:01.779 --> 01:49:03.859
And we all laughed about it. We all felt better
2512
01:49:03.920 --> 01:49:04.279
about it.
2513
01:49:04.319 --> 01:49:06.159
It was a way to like, like you said, you're
2514
01:49:06.180 --> 01:49:08.340
not laughing at the person's death. You're not laughing and
2515
01:49:08.359 --> 01:49:10.970
that they're dead. You're just getting yourself through it because
2516
01:49:10.989 --> 01:49:13.720
you've got to. You can't just feel sadness. That's not
2517
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:15.739
the only emotion you can feel when you lose someone.
2518
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:17.680
I have not been to one week of any kind
2519
01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:18.800
where I haven't left once.
2520
01:49:19.220 --> 01:49:19.579
Right.
2521
01:49:19.819 --> 01:49:22.640
Yeah. We always used to tell stories and stuff.
2522
01:49:22.659 --> 01:49:25.659
You've got to. I mean, that's the human condition. That's
2523
01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:27.800
how we got to get through it, you know? I mean,
2524
01:49:27.819 --> 01:49:29.579
that's part of the whole process.
2525
01:49:29.739 --> 01:49:31.680
They nailed the beginning of the show. They nailed the
2526
01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:34.060
end of the show. It could have been done a
2527
01:49:34.100 --> 01:49:37.010
lot better. But on a whole, I'm okay with it.
2528
01:49:37.590 --> 01:49:39.430
The matches suck. Yeah.
2529
01:49:40.529 --> 01:49:43.350
Unnecessary. Yeah, you're right. The beginning and the end were great.
2530
01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:46.579
They could have done so much better. We're not saying
2531
01:49:46.600 --> 01:49:48.119
that it's bad or it was terrible or whatever. It
2532
01:49:48.140 --> 01:49:51.279
was just you had other opportunities. You had chances.
2533
01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:54.140
You had a good opportunity with it.
2534
01:49:54.500 --> 01:49:56.260
It's all right there in front of you.
2535
01:49:56.600 --> 01:50:00.180
I mean, a microcosm of AEW where you just don't.
2536
01:50:00.619 --> 01:50:02.859
There's not one person that would have turned that down. No.
2537
01:50:03.619 --> 01:50:04.960
If someone would have come up to me and said, George,
2538
01:50:04.979 --> 01:50:06.579
you're going to go out there and tell a story
2539
01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:07.739
by yourself. I said, nope.
2540
01:50:08.289 --> 01:50:09.050
Right.
2541
01:50:09.069 --> 01:50:10.470
To go out there and tell a story with three
2542
01:50:10.489 --> 01:50:12.329
other guys about the time you impacted this.
2543
01:50:12.390 --> 01:50:12.670
Okay.
2544
01:50:12.729 --> 01:50:13.829
I'm into that. Yeah.
2545
01:50:14.350 --> 01:50:16.739
Or, or even like, if it's like an example, like
2546
01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:19.659
cash wheelers spoke, like if him and Dax went out there,
2547
01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:21.159
you know what I mean? You could have two, if
2548
01:50:21.180 --> 01:50:22.579
you're a friend, you know what I mean?
2549
01:50:22.600 --> 01:50:24.119
Don't we go out there and tell stories?
2550
01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:25.500
Yeah, exactly.
2551
01:50:25.640 --> 01:50:26.140
That you're right.
2552
01:50:26.159 --> 01:50:29.579
It's fine. Yeah. Yeah.
2553
01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:29.840
No.
2554
01:50:29.979 --> 01:50:31.149
Yeah.
2555
01:50:31.390 --> 01:50:32.149
It's just the.
2556
01:50:32.050 --> 01:50:32.729
Whole thing was.
2557
01:50:33.750 --> 01:50:34.090
Yeah.
2558
01:50:34.109 --> 01:50:35.590
You could have done it so much better with it.
2559
01:50:36.800 --> 01:50:38.079
We did hit 30 likes. Thank you all.
2560
01:50:38.300 --> 01:50:40.899
Thank you. Yes. We appreciate all of that. I also
2561
01:50:40.939 --> 01:50:43.939
did see that edge was at the Toronto Maples Leafs game.
2562
01:50:44.039 --> 01:50:47.039
I was like, that's not a great look, buddy. It probably,
2563
01:50:47.279 --> 01:50:49.100
probably should have kept those tickets up and just came
2564
01:50:49.140 --> 01:50:52.020
back and went to the show here. But yeah, you know,
2565
01:50:52.060 --> 01:50:54.239
like I said, it was what it was. There was,
2566
01:50:55.439 --> 01:50:57.779
There was good parts to it. You had the right
2567
01:50:57.819 --> 01:51:00.460
setup with those three matches. You didn't need to add
2568
01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:02.460
the other two. Like I said, if you wanted the
2569
01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:05.699
Osprey on there, have it be short and sweet. More
2570
01:51:05.739 --> 01:51:07.899
would have been better with him and Ricochet telling stories
2571
01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:09.020
and talking about Pac.
2572
01:51:09.039 --> 01:51:12.399
You didn't need to see him wrestle. But, I mean,
2573
01:51:12.430 --> 01:51:13.739
it is what it is.
2574
01:51:13.810 --> 01:51:16.170
I know sometimes people say, like, oh, well, you want
2575
01:51:16.210 --> 01:51:18.989
to perform when you're feeling bad because it makes you
2576
01:51:19.010 --> 01:51:20.949
feel better or whatever. Telling stories would have been the
2577
01:51:20.989 --> 01:51:21.369
best way.
2578
01:51:21.430 --> 01:51:22.949
It didn't seem like they wanted to perform.
2579
01:51:22.989 --> 01:51:23.750
No, no.
2580
01:51:24.340 --> 01:51:27.939
And that's understandable. It's totally understandable.
2581
01:51:29.020 --> 01:51:31.840
Yeah, you nailed it. Three matches. Mox in a single,
2582
01:51:32.260 --> 01:51:35.289
Marina in a tag or trio of the Death Riders.
2583
01:51:36.149 --> 01:51:37.989
But it could have just been the three Death Riders.
2584
01:51:38.069 --> 01:51:43.329
You know what I mean? Wheeler, Claudio Garcia. You didn't
2585
01:51:43.369 --> 01:51:45.829
need anybody else in that. You know what I mean? Like,
2586
01:51:46.170 --> 01:51:48.909
I guess maybe Gabe kid, cause he's a death rider. Sure.
2587
01:51:48.949 --> 01:51:51.170
But just Wheeler, I think you just put in another
2588
01:51:51.210 --> 01:51:53.770
trios match and then you would not add Wardlow in it.
2589
01:51:53.779 --> 01:51:56.189
Cause you could have just had, you know, what was it?
2590
01:51:56.239 --> 01:52:00.840
Jake Doyle, Mark Davis. And I don't know, Lance Archer
2591
01:52:00.939 --> 01:52:02.619
or whoever it was, but it just, you didn't need to,
2592
01:52:02.640 --> 01:52:05.979
or Josh Alexander. Wardlow doesn't need to be in that
2593
01:52:06.050 --> 01:52:10.550
match to lose and show up. Like it just, ah, yeah,
2594
01:52:10.649 --> 01:52:14.550
no Wardlow coming out and Danielson wrestling. I didn't need, but, um,
2595
01:52:14.770 --> 01:52:16.510
but that was the puck tribute show. I'm glad we
2596
01:52:16.529 --> 01:52:19.250
had this conversation today. It was a very good, uh, very,
2597
01:52:19.289 --> 01:52:22.670
very impactful, very, um, honest and authentic. And we're again,
2598
01:52:22.949 --> 01:52:24.609
just given our opinions on what we know is in
2599
01:52:24.649 --> 01:52:27.109
front of us. We're just speculating on what we could
2600
01:52:27.130 --> 01:52:29.510
have happened and what we think. And even so I,
2601
01:52:29.729 --> 01:52:32.479
even if it turns out that it was, uh, Nothing
2602
01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:34.420
the company could have done and he was hiding or whatever.
2603
01:52:35.100 --> 01:52:37.859
Hopefully this does revamp and make them introduce a real
2604
01:52:37.899 --> 01:52:40.789
wellness policy. I know Tony wants to let people do
2605
01:52:40.829 --> 01:52:43.590
whatever they want to do, but got to protect these
2606
01:52:43.630 --> 01:52:44.670
wrestlers from themselves.
2607
01:52:45.090 --> 01:52:48.569
Yes, that's why I wanted to specifically come on and
2608
01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:50.340
say something because I've been through all this.
2609
01:52:50.420 --> 01:52:54.189
Right, right. And it's one of those things too, where
2610
01:52:54.310 --> 01:52:56.649
because of the way they do this, because of the
2611
01:52:56.689 --> 01:52:59.170
way they wrestle and it's on the pay-per-views.
2612
01:52:59.189 --> 01:52:59.390
Yes.
2613
01:52:59.449 --> 01:53:01.840
But a lot of times just on dynamite where, you know,
2614
01:53:01.880 --> 01:53:04.979
they're going to be hurting. Like that only is asking
2615
01:53:05.039 --> 01:53:07.720
for trouble. You know, like if you just, like I've
2616
01:53:07.739 --> 01:53:10.300
said before, like there's a reason I watch wrestling and
2617
01:53:10.380 --> 01:53:13.659
not MMA. Like I don't want to see people actually hurt.
2618
01:53:14.180 --> 01:53:17.079
It's supposed to look like it hurts, but not. And
2619
01:53:17.119 --> 01:53:19.029
I know sometimes you're going to have to hurt and whatever, but,
2620
01:53:19.590 --> 01:53:21.829
There's just too much in these shows where they're just
2621
01:53:22.029 --> 01:53:26.569
jumping off through things and everything else. But yeah, that
2622
01:53:26.609 --> 01:53:28.850
is our show for tonight. Thanks, everybody, for hanging out.
2623
01:53:28.869 --> 01:53:30.149
We went a little bit long, but it was a
2624
01:53:30.170 --> 01:53:33.109
great conversation. The chat was very lively. We appreciate everybody here.
2625
01:53:33.130 --> 01:53:36.069
Appreciate the new subscriber as well. Be sure to hit
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the like button if you haven't. Please be sure to
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share this video with a friend or two. Maybe you've
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got a friend who's got– that you know has an
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issue that you haven't listened to. Have them listen to
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our first hour. That was a pretty good– conversation like
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i said with somebody who's been through it and you
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know we only want to see people get improve.
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And get better like we do with everything of it but.
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Yeah text text or call 980 or any of us.
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And yes please like i said my aim the email
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address all jake takes on at gmail.com my dms on
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twitter were open i got a lot of different dms
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i was dming with brad today with drew today about
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it that was where i came up with that excalibur
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thing i got really mad when i was like why
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do you wear a mask it pissed me off But anyway,
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we will be back this Sunday at 8.05 p.m. Eastern
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Standard Time. By then, we'll both have watched Worlds collide
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and we'll at least talk about any parts we want
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to talk about and SmackDown as well.
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But yeah, until then, I think that's all we're going
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to get into today.
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Anything else you want to get into today, my friend? Nope. Awesome. Well, thanks.
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Thank you all.
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Perfect. Thanks everybody for hanging out. We will see you
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on Sunday, 8 0 5 PM Eastern. And then this
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Tuesday for WDS at 8 PM Eastern standard time on
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the awful resting channel. Let's see you guys on Sunday
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back here at all. Jay takes on 8 0 5
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PM Eastern. Peace everybody. Thanks for watching AEW live review
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on YouTube with all Jake and George. Tune in on
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Sundays at 8.05 p.m.
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Eastern Time for Sunday Night Spaces with Alt Jake and
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George live on YouTube.