69. Why Your Relationships Matter More Than Supplements with Shawn Stevenson

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Welcome to Rooted in Wellness with me, Wellness Advocate and Holistic Nutritionist,
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Mona Sharma.
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Together we will take a journey to discover natural healing practices from imbalance to balance,
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guided by ancient wisdom and modern scientific insights.
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I was raised living summers on an ashram, so I learned early on that food is medicine,
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and your kitchen is your greatest source of health care and prevention.
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After facing two heart surgeries, anxiety and weight challenges, I discovered that just
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because your symptoms are common doesn't mean that they are normal.
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Together with some incredible guests, we will explore the power of our mind, body and
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soul connection, returning to our roots to rediscover our greatest well-being.
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What if the most powerful healing tool isn't something that you can buy, but something
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you've had all along?
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In this episode, I sit down with my dear friend, Sean Stevenson, best-selling author and
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host of the Model Health Show to explore how our relationships shape everything from
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our stress levels to our digestion, hormones, metabolism, and even gene expression.
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We talk about the deep science behind connection, how eating together lowers cortisol, how oxytocin
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supports the gut, and why loneliness might be the biggest health threat of our time.
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But we also go deeper into culture, rituals, family meals, and the healing power of feeling
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seen, valued and loved.
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He reminds us that healing isn't always about doing more, it's about reconnecting with
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what truly nourishes us, presence, purpose, and the people that we love.
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Sean Stevenson is the author of Eat Smarter and Sleep Smarter.
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He's also a leading voice in evidence-based, integrative health.
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Through his books, his podcasts, his teachings, he empowers people to come back to their bodies,
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build supportive environments, and live an alignment with their values.
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Let's dive in.
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Sean Stevenson, welcome to the Rooted and Wellness Podcast.
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So good to be here.
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Before we dive in, this podcast is all about ancient wisdom in our modern world, and really
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how we can help our listeners become more rooted, rooted in the sense of who they are, but
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also their health, their happiness, and maybe even the inner wisdom that everyone has
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that they can heal.
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So to start off, what are three things that help you feel rooted in your health and who
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you are?
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You're happiness.
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Number one, family, just being around my tribe, and you know, you know, it is like when
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you make people, it's a big part of your tribe as well, and just being able to glean insights
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and energy from both sides, you know, of the generations, my mom, my mother-in-law, and
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my kids.
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So that's number one.
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We'll talk a lot about that today.
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Yeah, it was a big part of who you are and what you share, so I love that you said
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that first.
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It's a big leverage, you know, it's an epigenetic influence, and we'll, again, we'll talk more
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about that.
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But that's, that's number one.
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Number two is a lot of movement.
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You know, it's something that our genes expect from us is to move, and there's still cultures
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today that it is a unwritten mandate within the kind of code of the culture.
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If you don't move, you die.
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You know, we required movement in order for us to survive, and now the game has changed
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a lot.
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Everything is basically accessible with your phone.
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We could sit here right now and have this interview and have DoorDash deliver right to
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us.
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You know, you're right.
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We got all the entertainment we could ever imagine, you know, people can even find
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a mate without going somewhere today, you know, which is, it's, it's interesting.
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It's interesting.
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So that would be number two, lots and lots of movement.
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And number three, play, you know, play can be kind of incorporated with the movement.
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You know, it's, it could be parallel to that or you can perpendicular, but play, you
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know, I love that sentiment that we don't stop playing because we get old.
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We get old because we stop playing.
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Sorry about that.
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I'm usually very great at quotes, but I got so excited to say it.
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And then I thought, this is what my chain of thought was, there's a Jeremy Render movie,
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which he went through a little tragic, tragic accident, big tragic accident.
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But he's a star of this movie and these old friends are playing this continuous game
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of pack.
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Right.
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And so they started as childhood.
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Yes.
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They meet up as adults, right?
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And it's a massive game.
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Yeah.
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And I love that quote already, but then it was like kind of the hallmark of that movie.
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Yes.
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So my brain went into that tunnel for whatever reason, but I was able to grab it out.
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That's a good one.
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Great.
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So I owning on those questions because I think that, you know, I've such incredible speakers
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and guests and experts sitting in that chair.
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And I think that when people look to us as practitioners and wellness, they think that
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healing's complicated, that the things that matter most to us are going to come with
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a lengthy checklist.
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And I was in nine times out of 10, everyone that sits there, it's something that's free.
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It's something that's free and it's something that comes to their heart.
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So thank you for owning it on that.
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The other part of that too is I also don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of the
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people that you and I meet with, they ended up hitting rock bottom through some sort
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of a health diagnosis.
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You are unique to the story, but you're not unique to the story, right?
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So you're diagnosed with degeneration of your spine, right?
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You're 20s?
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20 at 20s.
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At 20.
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So you've been on this healing journey and I'm curious, do you notice when you drift, like
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when you go back to old ways that used to be part of you?
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And what are the things that cause you to feel uprooted when that happens?
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That's such a great question.
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You know, this, even this conversation itself, the umbrella that kind of covers all of
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this is about culture.
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And to define culture, you know, really quickly, it's the attitudes, the values, beliefs
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and behaviors shared by a group of people and then passed from one generation to the next.
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And so the culture that I've intentionally created makes it really easy to not fall
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back into these old habits and ways of being that led to the conditions that I was in.
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Now, of course, this is not perfect, but I think it can manifest its head in different
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ways.
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And that's what's so interesting.
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So at 20, I was diagnosed with a so-called incurable condition.
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And even for this to show up on the MRI, where my L4, L5S1 discs were just like showing
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a black on the MRI, because they were so degenerated, I was a child, 20 years old, that took years
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of really devolution and degeneration of my spine for it to show up like that and for
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me to have these very noticeable symptoms.
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But prior to that, when I was 15, I was at track practice and at the time, I just had
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all these incredible aspirations and opportunities to play football at the next level, run track,
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around a 4, 5, 40 already as a kid.
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And at track practice, I was coming off the curve into the straightaway doing a 200 meter
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time trial and my hip broke, right?
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And it's just like, how on earth would that happen to a child?
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There was no fall, nothing like that.
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My bone density was so brittle and it just led to a string of additional injuries that
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kept me off the football field, off the track.
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And ultimately, I get that diagnosis.
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Now here's the rub at the time.
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And I've been really trying to champion this message, because this is very pertinent
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right now.
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At the time, I was eating, and this is no exaggeration, and I'm going to back this up with some science.
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I was eating about 90% ultra-process foods.
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And right now, and this was just published in JAMA, the Journal of the American Medical
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Association, just a couple of years ago, they looked at ultra-process food consumption
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by U.S. children from 1999 to 2018.
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So it was about 20 years.
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In 1999, the average U.S. child was eating 62, about 62% ultra-process foods already.
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All right?
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By 2018, that number reached almost 70%.
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It's like 68% of the average child's diet in the United States.
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As you know, there are kids at both ends of the spectrum as well.
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So that's the mean.
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That's the average.
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I was definitely on the other end of eating mostly, predominantly ultra-process foods.
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And so, in the average day of eating, I was in the desec program, desegregation program,
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getting bus from the city to the, quote, good schools.
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And so I wouldn't eat breakfast at home, leaving the house at like 5, 30 in the morning,
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and taking an hour bus ride.
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And when I get to school, I get the free lunch.
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I mean, free breakfast and free lunch.
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And so I'd get some donuts or, you know, little, single serving little bowls of cereal and
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some juice.
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And, you know, so I'll start my day with ultra-process foods and only ultra-process foods for lunch.
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And I just shared this with my son the other day.
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I get a personal pizza and a press with cheese.
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I remember this.
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And so I dipped the pizza into the cheese and that was my lunch.
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And then, you know, we get something out the vending machine before football practice.
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And then after school, a long bus ride home, and it was ultra-process foods nine times
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out of 10 at the house, you know.
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And I was making my body out of some of the worst possible things.
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And that was the disconnection because people don't realize this.
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And, you know, when I graduated from high school, I want to go to, and this was just aspirational
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because I didn't know anybody who went to college.
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Like, I was the first person in my family to go to college, let alone graduate.
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But I wanted to do a pre-med program.
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And so I went to this university and in my biology class, which I hated, I, I didn't
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test it science.
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So why on earth would I want to go to a pre-med program with aspirations of becoming a doctor?
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And it was because of the way that I was taught.
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It was so disconnected from me as a human in the real world because I didn't realize as
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we were learning about the cell, when we're looking and studying the cell membrane, we're
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looking at the meals that we've eaten.
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When we're looking at the nucleus of the cell, it's the nutrients that person has eaten.
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You know, we can go on and on.
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The mitochondria is made from your menu.
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And so all these cell parts were studying in this kind of abstract way.
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We're looking at food if we're talking about it in the real world.
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And so I was making my cells out of just garbage, right?
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Nuly invented fake foods.
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And so my body was falling apart.
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And we could talk about some of the things I did to change that, of course, but I went
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from being radically unhealthy to being one of the healthiest people on the planet, you
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know, and just having this incredible transformation was inspiring to people around me.
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That's really was the birthing in my career.
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And so I put all my chips into that healthy environment creation.
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And it just went kind of along stepwise and again, being able to make people and, you
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know, and to and they attract other people who compliment that lifestyle, it makes it
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a lot easier.
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But like I said, it can manifest in different ways because of the things we carry from
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that, you know.
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And so I carried a lot of dysfunction from the environment that I come from, a lot of
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violence in my environment outside my home, inside my home.
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And having that show up in dysfunctional things, maybe I'm challenging myself too much,
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for example, and not really honoring my body and resting enough, right?
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So I went through a phase of that and just like, you know, kind of teetering into dysfunction
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and another manifestation of an injury or a back problem or sciatic pain or whatever,
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because of something else, right?
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And so it's addressing all of these, and I'm going to say this, all of these gifts that
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I was presenting with, they looked like challenges and devastating things at the time, but they
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were blessings because they helped me to continue to grow and evolve in stack conditions in
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my favor.
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Mm.
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You're pulling at my heart.
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And I hope listeners too.
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I want, I really want people to share their story because when you lose your health, nothing
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matters.
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Everything stops.
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And fortunately for people who are listening who just have curiosity around health and
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wellness, I think these stories really matter.
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When it comes down to community, I think like you, when you made the transition, who you
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surrounded yourself with was probably such a great contributor because you digest everything,
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right, including the conversations and the friendships and everything that you have.
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And for listeners on the table here, we've got Sean's incredible book.
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It's called Eat Smarter before the show we're talking about like every doctor needs to
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be gifted this book.
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And one of the first ways that you started that I love is we were never taught that the
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content of ourselves would be determined by the food that we eat.
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There was a disconnect from understanding that our mitochondria were made from our meals,
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or nuclei were made from nutrients, and our membranes were made from our menu.
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It's like, yes, that just got me instantly because people understand this concept of food
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is medicine, but because we are so disconnected from where food comes from, how it's grown,
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what goes into it, the process from getting it from the farm to our table, there's a big
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disconnect in understanding that what I eat is going to fuel the mitochondria in my body,
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right?
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So I love that you speak to this.
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It shows that who we eat with is just as important as important as what we eat, going
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back to community.
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So when we eat in communities, you share about the concept of how it releases oxytocin,
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lowers our cortisol, it can improve our digestion and improve our nutrient absorption.
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Growing up at the ashram, we always ate in community.
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We always ate with people in nature.
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part of my healing journey.
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Can you talk a little bit more about that?
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Let's start with that big picture.
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What is the science saying between the connection of who we eat with and how our bodies respond
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to what we're eating based on that?
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Obviously, just to set the tone for that, we evolved for thousands upon thousands upon
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thousands of years eating together as community or having input and responsibility in the procurement
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of food, the preparation of the food, and eating together, and also celebration.
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This was a hallmark time of sharing tradition and also sharing history, passing down information
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to the next generation.
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modern day people, but you're really seeing a representation of how things were across
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the globe, right?
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sitting together, but there's song, there's dance, there's exploration, there's experience,
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and everybody's involved.
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Today, we're no longer, we're more and more devolved or are pulled away from that and we're
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eating more in isolation and most of the time in front of a screen.
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And my question was, is this having an impact on our health?
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And even just as posing that question, you already know the answer, but to what degree?
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And so I dove into the research and it changed everything for me because my obsession was
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food because I'm a nutritionist.
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My obsession was food and I built my career on that.
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Food matters, of course, it matters, absolutely exercise matters.
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I wrote the book on sleep wellness, you know, it was the first sleep related book to become
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an international bestseller about 10 years ago, sleep smarter, but all of those things
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pale in comparison to our relationships and how they impact everything else.
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And so I'm going to just stack some things here and just read all of some things.
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So number one, I shared in the book one of the biggest meta analyses ever conducted
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by research that bring them young university and North Carolina, a university in North Carolina.
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what are they?
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And they looked at everything, diet, exercise, smoking habits, you name it.
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And they found that people who had strong social bonds had a 50% boost in longevity versus
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those who did not set another way.
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People who had strong or healthy relationships had a 50% reduction in all cause mortality.
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So we're talking about 50% reduction in dying prematurely from everything.
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More so than beating obesity, beating smoking, diet, exercise, those things matter again,
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but there's something about our relationships.
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So that's number one.
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Number two, conversations with Dr. Robert Waldinger, who's the director, he's the fourth
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director of the longest running longitudinal study for humans on longevity.
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Same outcome, he's at Harvard, same outcome.
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As he shared with me, healthy social bonds are far and away the most impactful thing on
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how long we're going to live.
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And now to take this to the level of how does food interact with this.
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Other researchers at Harvard, because I was looking at this intimate act of eating together
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and these health outcomes, and they found that when people eat together on a consistent
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basis, they seem to naturally consume higher amounts of essential vitamins and minerals
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and all these different nutrients that help to prevent chronic diseases in those family
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members.
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When they ate together less often, they were consuming more ultra-processed foods and
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more things that were considered to be problematic for human health, and thus higher rates of chronic
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diseases.
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And I was like, okay, this is getting crazy, dive deeper.
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And I come across this study that was published in pediatrics on children, all right?
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And they found that when kids eat with their parents and or caregivers, and I'm a big
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minimum effective dose person, like what is the on-ramp for everybody, they found that
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three meals per week was a minimum effective dose.
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If kids were able to do that three times a week or more, they had dramatically reduced
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risk of developing obesity and disordered eating, all right?
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A stack it again, what about the parents?
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They just conducted a study on some tech workers at IBM, and they were looking at the impact
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of, quote, getting home in time for dinner, which was a tradition, you know, even a few
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decades back.
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And what they found was that if parents were able to get home in time and have dinner
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with their families on a regular basis, their work morale stayed high, their job, their
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job satisfaction, productivity, all those things stayed high, but as soon as responsibilities
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cut into their ability to eat with their families on a regular basis, stress, skyrockets,
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work morale plummets, productivity plummets, job satisfaction plummets, and to tie all
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this together and answer the question, why in my conversation with Dr. Waldinger at Harvard,
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he shared that it's because our relationships are the most powerful means of processing
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stress ever discovered.
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Like there's nothing else remotely close.
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There is in a supplement, there is in a mental hack, being with other people who you trust,
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who you love, and you know that they've got your back, it helps us to metabolize stress.
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And as you know, stress is literally killing us.
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Stress, caveat is not all bad, we need stress, part of life, it helps us to grow and to adapt
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the healing, part of the healing process is stress, but when it becomes chronic, we're
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not processing stress, we're just carrying all these things.
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helps your body to process stress and it's unconscious.
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And so we're talking about a change in your chemistry, right?
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So we know that there's a shift from this sympathetic fight or flight that we're pretty
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much habitually in today, over to that parasympathetic rest and digest, if we're tying this into
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the food conversation, and it happens automatically, a huge increase in oxytocin when we're around
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people that we care about and oxytocin is having a moment right now, right, it's nicknames
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is the love hormone, cuddle hormone.
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when it comes to love.
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What we do know, and I share this end-sleeved martyr 10 years ago, is that oxytocin is one of
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the most powerful hormones in relationship to reducing the impact of cortisol in your body,
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right?
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And so it's just like, it's that thing that naturally helps the buffer stress.
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And so as we go deeper into this conversation, we can unpack like what are those specific
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things?
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Yes, it metabolizes stress.
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That's a very big idea.
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But how it all happens is really miraculous as well.
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It's such a beautiful and simple concept again, right?
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Craig and I talked about this all the time.
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I think we've had more dinners with our kids than we ever saw our parents at dinner, like
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my dad worked at IBM funny enough.
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Come on.
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There's not an accident.
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That is the secret.
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He made it all really late, but he was never available to just sit down with us at
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dinner.
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And what I'm thinking is like, gosh, I think for children especially, it's like it creates
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a sense of safety, right?
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You're with the people who have your back.
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You know, you're protected during that time and people 10 years ago, I would use energy
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and vibration and all those words and now it's backed by science, right?
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But there's an energy when you're with the people who you know love you, it emanates
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from their body.
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And in Ayurveda, we talk about the concept of like, when you eat, when you're stressed,
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your digestion, it's, it's shunts.
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It stops down completely.
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You cannot digest your food when you're in that state of stress.
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year has said that they spend more time me with the extent of one spends more time in
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a state of stress than not, but also not recognizing it.
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It's almost like it's become their blueprint because we live in a world that reflects that
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stress is good to be busy, good to be doing more all the time to be available, right?
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Not to mention what we're watching on our screens instantly makes us feel a sense of
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stress and God knows like the hormonal cascade that that's doing, but I wonder listening
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to you, how many of our listeners, especially have adopted to living to a higher level of
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stress, like if I could step in their body, what would I feel, right?
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah, we went out of there quick.
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We went out of there quick.
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So let's break that down and understand then what are the long term implications?
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People, they might be listening, yeah, I get it, but I can't necessarily change my
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lifestyle right now or maybe they don't live with their family members or maybe they
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don't even have that experience growing up, right?
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What are some of the long term implications then of this isolation?
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Oh, fun enough.
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This was just published about a year, year and a half ago, and this was another one of
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the biggest studies ever conducted on human health and longevity.
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And this looked at over two million people, longitudinal, and this could be tracking them
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up to about 25 years plus.
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And what they found was that the most dangerous thing right now for human health is social
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isolation and loneliness.
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So individuals that had chronic states of loneliness over the study period had around
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a 15% higher incidence of death from all causes.
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But it was about twice as bad around, you know, over 30%.
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So this was around like 34, 35% increase in all cause mortality when people were socially
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isolated.
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We need each other.
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And so when you're talking about energy, this is not a joke, like even as we're here in
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this room and you know, this heart math institute, for example, our bodies are emitting
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certain fields that we can't see with our, you know, our, I don't want to say dumb,
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but like we see a certain spectrum of reality.
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There's so much, we see way less than than what's here, right?
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There's way more stuff.
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And so there's a tube torus is what they call it, that extends from the human heart up
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to about eight feet.
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And so literally when you're around other people, your energies are interacting.
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And did we take it to the level of the microbiome, which is having another moment right now?
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And there's a lot of microbial file sharing that takes place, you know, when you're around
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other people that trains your immune system.
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What happens when you're isolated, you just, you're, you're, it's not getting that exercise
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that it needs for your immune system, maybe function, uh, functioning properly.
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I can go on and on and all these invisible things.
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We talked about the hormone change that takes place.
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We talked about the change in your nervous system.
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But what I want to make sure that I share today is something that very, that's very practical.
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And this is the fact that again, as you mentioned, we're on our phones a lot, we're on our
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phones, we're staring at screens, and we're not really being seen, right?
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And so we can superficially look for that in likes and things like that.
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And, you know, and people become obsessed with doing that stuff.
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But this is all, that's new.
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What we need, what our genes expect and need from us is to feel seen and valued in the
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real world, right?
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And so giving this blessing and benefit to your children, especially today, where they
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don't feel seen more than ever to sit there without your devices and to eat a meal together.
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It's just stacking conditions because you got to eat anyways, but it's that psychological
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human need of feeling like I matter, like somebody sees me.
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I'm here.
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I'm here and I'm, and I'm my voice matters.
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And so, you know, just that's a little bit more practical than some of the invisible stuff.
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We need that.
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We all need that.
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You know, we need that for ourselves as well.
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And what I feel like one of the benefits that's happened with me, with my, my kids when
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I brought my son, my youngest son, Braden is here, is it's humanized me more, you know,
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because when things are happening, you probably have this with your, with your father as well.
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It's like, it's kind of like Superman, you know, like nothing phases him.
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He's doing his dad's working, you know?
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for me and making sure that I'm good.
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I'm taking care of myself and these kind of things, you know, and it's beautiful.
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It's because of these touch points and sitting around together before we eat nine times
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out of 10, we go around, we do like a gratitude practice, right?
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So we'll go around and share, you know, three things that we're grateful for from that day.
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Or, you know, a while back, we did like, what's something you failed at today and we go
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around and talk about these things and me talking about failing, me talking about failing
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Superman here.
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You know, it's just again, it really helps to create more rapport and connection with
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our family members and, you know, I just want to share this because Father's Day just
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passed.
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And I'd, I like to control my schedule as my family knows, I don't, I'm not, that's,
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I don't like this sporadic unless I choose it kind of thing.
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So they're like, okay, we're going to do this stuff, you know, Sunday, I'm like, okay,
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I guess.
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And so they took me to this really dope branch and it was awesome.
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And so we all get, we, we had that thing of us sitting together, we're not on our devices
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and we're hanging out, we're chopping it up, we're eating good food.
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Please do, yeah.
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when we're more fractured than we've ever been?
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Kids are exposed to so much through those greens.
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And it, it is like, it's so addictive, it's so savory, it's like, it's just so much
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it's infinite, right?
459
00:28:06.560 --> 00:28:10.520
And so we've got to first understand that we are addicted, right?
460
00:28:10.520 --> 00:28:13.480
That's kind of the first step is understand that we have a problem.
461
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Yeah.
462
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:17.880
And more often than I've had the opportunity to talk to so many different addiction specialists
463
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.080
over the years and doing this work.
464
00:28:20.080 --> 00:28:26.680
And one of the most practical things is to, if we wanted to change a habit, is to replace
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it with something of equal or greater value, right?
466
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:35.080
Because just going quote, quote, cold turkey is very difficult, it's hard, right?
467
00:28:35.080 --> 00:28:38.720
So you got to replace like what's in your hand with something else, right?
468
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:42.360
And so we had to anchor in in the society today.
469
00:28:42.360 --> 00:28:46.840
And I just ran into at one of his basketball tournaments, a mother and her family sharing
470
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:51.280
how this book is impacted or that he's a mother family cookbook and changing the dynamics
471
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of how our family is eating, how our family is eating together.
472
00:28:54.800 --> 00:28:57.400
And so what do we do?
473
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What we have done for whatever reason and every family is going to be different is kind
474
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of like having something to look forward to in that meal, right?
475
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:10.480
So food is awesome, but you got to be careful about rewarding with food for sure.
476
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:16.320
So but after dinner, you know, back in St. Louis before we moved to LA, we had this phenomenon
477
00:29:16.320 --> 00:29:21.040
where we end up having a dance competition or dancing together or it evolved into like
478
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having rat battles.
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Come on.
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All right.
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00:29:24.040 --> 00:29:28.800
And so once we got to LA, my son has a iPad and like somebody would like make a B and
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we go around the table or freestyle.
483
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And it got to a point where we actually bought a microphone.
484
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:40.760
And so we passed the microphone around, but we haven't done that in probably a year.
485
00:29:40.760 --> 00:29:44.320
We haven't done that practice like our family structure changed like my older son moved
486
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out for a bit and moved back and driving back from the brunch.
487
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We're free styling in the car, you know what I mean?
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And it's just like this thing that adds unconsciously like I have something to look forward
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to.
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It's creativity.
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You know, it's challenge.
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It's fun.
493
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It's funny.
494
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It's, you know, empowering.
495
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:09.280
You know, it's like has all these ingredients that you look forward to that family meal.
496
00:30:09.280 --> 00:30:11.520
This could be a game that you guys play.
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00:30:11.840 --> 00:30:13.080
I've just talked to a family.
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They play a board game while they have dinner, which I've never thought about, you know,
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which it's seem kind of obvious.
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00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:24.680
This could be, you know, you guys doing some kind of, you know, maybe your family sings
501
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:26.920
together, like playing instruments.
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00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.960
Maybe it's just like telling funny stories or choosing a playlist to each person gets
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00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:35.440
to choose a playlist if you're not, you know, sets the tone for what's happening.
504
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Endless possibilities.
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Endless possibilities.
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Yeah.
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Those are amazing tips.
508
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Yeah.
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J. Smiling in at us, you know, as we're talking about them, I think what's really cool
510
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is first acknowledging that maybe screens are like the new McDonald's, you know, where
511
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we're growing up, it's like we normalize eating at McDonald's.
512
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Now we know like the horror that that that played screens are the new McDonald's.
513
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:01.480
And you know, if we own in on what's going to happen in the future because it's being
514
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so normalized, you talk a little bit about this in your book also, but like the impact
515
00:31:05.600 --> 00:31:09.200
on children and the trajectory of the future, I want to point out like this is a conscious
516
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:14.560
decision for you and, and you set the environment in your house for doing this with your kids
517
00:31:14.560 --> 00:31:19.280
because you're imprinting on them so that they carry that on out into the world, right?
518
00:31:19.280 --> 00:31:21.520
Do you share with them like the stats?
519
00:31:21.520 --> 00:31:25.240
Do you share with them the dark side of what you know around all of this?
520
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:26.240
My son is right there.
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Yeah.
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And this is a part of it.
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00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.840
He's around, like even right now.
524
00:31:30.840 --> 00:31:31.840
And we were leaving the house.
525
00:31:31.840 --> 00:31:36.080
My wife was like, it's take your, take your kid to school, take your kid to work day,
526
00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:38.480
this isn't really like work for him or for me.
527
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.000
This is just, it's our passion is what we do.
528
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.120
And him being a part of these conversations and listening and on stuff has been obviously
529
00:31:45.120 --> 00:31:46.120
very powerful.
530
00:31:46.120 --> 00:31:49.720
He's been to tons of my speaking events and just involving him.
531
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:54.280
I interviewed him on my show a couple of years ago and he was a tiny little guy, you
532
00:31:54.280 --> 00:31:56.400
know, and just involving my family.
533
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:01.240
My older son is a really incredible strength conditioning coach for some trainer.
534
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.400
I never told him to do that stuff.
535
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.320
He just decided that that's what he wants to do.
536
00:32:06.320 --> 00:32:12.040
And it's because he's around it, you know, and so the power of modeling is incredible.
537
00:32:12.040 --> 00:32:14.720
The power of creating an environment.
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00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:21.640
As I said earlier, culture is the shared values, attitudes, beliefs and behaviors shared
539
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by a group of people pass on from one generation to the next.
540
00:32:24.840 --> 00:32:30.080
The problem today with so many, like we might want to change our habits and we had to deal
541
00:32:30.080 --> 00:32:31.080
with this stuff.
542
00:32:31.080 --> 00:32:33.200
Maybe there's certain things we want to stop doing, stop eating.
543
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:37.040
It's so hard to get somebody to change their habits that's hurting them when they're
544
00:32:37.040 --> 00:32:40.760
in a culture that is feeding them those habits constantly.
545
00:32:40.760 --> 00:32:42.400
You can't escape it.
546
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:48.600
It takes so much more turbulence to try to change that, well, what if you create a culture
547
00:32:48.600 --> 00:32:49.920
where it's just automatic?
548
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.560
It's just what you do.
549
00:32:51.560 --> 00:32:55.800
And so, you know, for my kids, just being around it, obviously, but also, yes, having
550
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the conversations, talking about the things, but most importantly, asking questions and letting
551
00:33:01.360 --> 00:33:07.320
them share, like, share their voice, share their perspective and not making them wrong.
552
00:33:07.320 --> 00:33:12.440
Because we can easily, and I went through a phase of like, you can't eat this.
553
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:13.440
You can't do that.
554
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:18.200
You know, be the kid at the birthday party like, you know, you don't eat that, whatever.
555
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.440
And I just like step back and I just let these things happen because we have a healthy
556
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base.
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00:33:22.760 --> 00:33:28.080
And also, he knows how he feels if he has that, that chitty, I'm going to add a chitty
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cake.
559
00:33:29.560 --> 00:33:31.880
And he knows how he feels like he doesn't feel his best.
560
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.840
And they don't want to like, you know what, and he'll tell me like, Dad, we should really
561
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eat a good dinner tonight.
562
00:33:35.840 --> 00:33:36.840
Oh, it was amazing.
563
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You know what I mean?
564
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Yeah.
565
00:33:38.840 --> 00:33:44.840
And so, again, it's just stacking conditions and understanding that, you know, our families,
566
00:33:44.840 --> 00:33:49.000
our children, our relationships, you know, our significant others, we need a lot less
567
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.640
berating and we need more inclusion.
568
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.560
We need more patience.
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And we need more, and this is another tip, we know our family better than anybody.
570
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:05.680
We know what motivates our husband or our wife or our kids more than anybody.
571
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.680
But because we're stressed out, we don't want to do it.
572
00:34:08.680 --> 00:34:09.680
You got it.
573
00:34:09.680 --> 00:34:10.680
Right.
574
00:34:10.680 --> 00:34:12.360
And we also know what demotivates them.
575
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:16.680
And so what we tend to do as a reaction unconsciously is do the thing that demotivates
576
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them.
577
00:34:17.680 --> 00:34:18.680
Right.
578
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And so we have to take care of ourselves.
579
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:25.240
So we have that space to have that patience in those moments, right, because I know it
580
00:34:25.240 --> 00:34:26.440
motivates my son.
581
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:31.480
I know it motivates my wife, and my wife is like, I said, she is, she is crushing it right
582
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:32.960
now.
583
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:38.600
And this thing is going in our house, even this morning, and my son told her, and she told
584
00:34:38.600 --> 00:34:43.160
me that he said it yesterday, he's, he told her like, the secret to your happiness is
585
00:34:43.160 --> 00:34:47.560
just listen to your husband, because she did what I said yesterday, and she was like
586
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so happy.
587
00:34:48.560 --> 00:34:49.920
Like, oh, she was tired.
588
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:54.680
Like, we tried, we did a really tough strength training workout in the morning, and then we went
589
00:34:54.680 --> 00:34:59.320
for a pretty long walk later in the day, and it was super hot as well.
590
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:03.160
And so, you know, I went back to work, and then I saw her like an hour later, she's just
591
00:35:03.160 --> 00:35:06.920
in the chair, feet, or kicked up, and she's just like, half asleep.
592
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:08.720
And I'm just like, baby, just take a nap.
593
00:35:08.720 --> 00:35:11.920
If you're tired, it's okay, because she said I'm so tired, I'm just taking a nap.
594
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:12.920
It's okay.
595
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.920
And she picked up her phone, because what happens a lot of times when we're tired, we'll
596
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just start scrolling.
597
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:17.920
Exactly.
598
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That's the best thing.
599
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:19.920
Right.
600
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:20.920
Right.
601
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:21.920
Right.
602
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:23.440
Instead of you're not, you're, you're distracting yourself and not getting restored.
603
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:24.440
And so, she did it.
604
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:29.240
She went to a nap, and she took a shower, and she was like, so pumped.
605
00:35:29.240 --> 00:35:33.400
She was like, I feel so, she got dressed up, it was awesome.
606
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.480
She went to the grocery store, she like, planned for the week.
607
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.920
She made dinner, and then she was still like bouncing around like, all happy.
608
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:44.640
And these are things I might have told her before, but in a different way.
609
00:35:44.640 --> 00:35:45.640
Yes, yeah.
610
00:35:45.640 --> 00:35:50.360
So, it's just like creating a space, and that encouragement.
611
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:55.320
And also, you can recruit your people that you make into this as well.
612
00:35:55.320 --> 00:36:00.640
And so, my youngest son, and my, both my sons, they're so affirmative and supportive of
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00:36:00.640 --> 00:36:01.640
their mom.
614
00:36:01.640 --> 00:36:05.440
You know, and just letting her know when she looks beautiful, letting her know when, you
615
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:09.600
know, she does something, you know, does something, you know, a quote, good job.
616
00:36:09.600 --> 00:36:14.120
Just everything is just affirmative and loving, and we'll, I mean, that'd be clear.
617
00:36:14.120 --> 00:36:15.600
We do get on each other's nerves.
618
00:36:15.600 --> 00:36:16.600
All right.
619
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We talk a lot of shit.
620
00:36:17.600 --> 00:36:18.600
All right.
621
00:36:18.600 --> 00:36:21.440
But we love on each other so much.
622
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:25.440
And even in the shit talking, like they're still, it's imbued with love and compassion.
623
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.360
Well, the boys do love because that's modeled for me.
624
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:29.600
Let's just call it as it is.
625
00:36:29.600 --> 00:36:30.600
So that's incredible.
626
00:36:30.600 --> 00:36:33.400
And I love that you're sharing stories because I think a lot of people, when they get to
627
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.880
that point of frustration, where they, they want to give up, right?
628
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:36.880
Oh, it's too hard.
629
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:38.920
I can't make them do what I want to do or vice versa.
630
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:42.680
You're not getting every person in the house an opportunity, right?
631
00:36:42.680 --> 00:36:46.840
And I love that you have it on that because I've worked with so many people where if they're
632
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:50.800
not one person's into health and wellness, the other partner isn't one of the partners
633
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:54.880
is still buying the Cheetos and the cereals and stuff like that.
634
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:59.520
The communication to kids, if you say don't eat this, it's bad for you versus eat this.
635
00:36:59.520 --> 00:37:00.880
This is way better for you.
636
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:01.880
It's going to get lost.
637
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:03.840
All their friends are eating the junk food.
638
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.360
It tastes way better to them because it's hyper palatable.
639
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.280
So giving them other tools to understand how it makes them feel.
640
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.200
My son looks at his bowel movements and he knows when he's eating the shitty food.
641
00:37:13.200 --> 00:37:14.200
He just knows instantly.
642
00:37:14.200 --> 00:37:15.200
Oh, okay, that was it.
643
00:37:15.200 --> 00:37:16.200
What did I eat today?
644
00:37:16.200 --> 00:37:20.680
But having open conversations about that because it's not just about what's healthy and
645
00:37:20.680 --> 00:37:21.680
what's not.
646
00:37:21.680 --> 00:37:23.480
It's about how it makes you feel.
647
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.560
And when you feel better, you make better choices.
648
00:37:25.560 --> 00:37:28.720
When you feel better as a family, God, life just gets better, right?
649
00:37:28.720 --> 00:37:29.720
That part.
650
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You know, really quickly with that, working as a nutritionist for so many years also
651
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.200
works as a strength and conditioning coach at the university and my wife and I went
652
00:37:38.200 --> 00:37:39.200
to.
653
00:37:39.200 --> 00:37:43.360
But working with people, that was the number one reason that people gave for why they
654
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.320
can't get the results that they were wanting to get.
655
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:49.640
Again, whether it was losing weight, whether it was, you know, getting their blood sugar
656
00:37:49.640 --> 00:37:54.400
in check, hypertension, whatever they were dealing with, they blamed their family.
657
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:56.160
It's a number one thing.
658
00:37:56.160 --> 00:38:01.320
My kids, it's my kids, like they, you know, I want to do this, but my kids, right?
659
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:02.320
I got it.
660
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:03.320
I'm not going to make two different meals.
661
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:07.080
Kids, they won't, they only eat pigs into blanket or whatever, you know, mac and cheese
662
00:38:07.080 --> 00:38:08.080
or whatever.
663
00:38:08.080 --> 00:38:11.520
Or it's my significant other, you know, it's my wife, it's my husband, like they just
664
00:38:11.520 --> 00:38:14.120
make it so much more difficult.
665
00:38:14.120 --> 00:38:19.440
And what really changed the game for me with helping individuals was helping families.
666
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:20.440
Yes.
667
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:21.440
Yes.
668
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:24.520
Because as you know, you know, there's these sentiments, which I don't necessarily like
669
00:38:24.520 --> 00:38:28.600
saying anymore, but like you can't be a prophet in your own land, right?
670
00:38:28.600 --> 00:38:32.640
To where, you know, if I'm trying to, you know, want to help my mom, for example, it's
671
00:38:32.640 --> 00:38:37.640
just like, my mom's not really listening to me because she's like, boy, that changed
672
00:38:37.640 --> 00:38:38.640
your diapers.
673
00:38:38.640 --> 00:38:41.000
Like what are you talking about, you know?
674
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.880
But when it comes from an external voice, it's very, very helpful.
675
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:50.360
This is why the show and this shows like this are so powerful because you get to share
676
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:53.480
from another perspective, right?
677
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.920
And so being able to incorporate and bring in, like, we'll just say I'm that I'm working
678
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:04.560
with a woman, you know, she's a, she's a lawyer, her husband, you know, maybe he's an engineer
679
00:39:04.560 --> 00:39:08.200
or whatever the case might be and they've got two kids and she's like, they're the, they're
680
00:39:08.200 --> 00:39:09.200
the problem, right?
681
00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:11.960
And they're pointing the finger outward.
682
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:16.240
And I come in, instead of just meeting with the, with the wife that I'm working with,
683
00:39:16.240 --> 00:39:19.760
the woman that I'm working with, I come hang out with their whole family and just, you
684
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:26.080
know, introduce myself, hang out, you know, talk to them a bit and that person, personifies
685
00:39:26.080 --> 00:39:28.520
me or personalizes me, right?
686
00:39:28.520 --> 00:39:32.960
And this just happened at his tournament when the family came over to me, but in particular,
687
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:34.600
it was the mom.
688
00:39:34.600 --> 00:39:37.640
And she was just like, I've been listening for 10 years and, you know, and the husband
689
00:39:37.640 --> 00:39:43.040
and son were there and to actually see me and because of what the sentiment, as they
690
00:39:43.040 --> 00:39:47.240
said, was in the house like Sean said, that might get on their nerves, right?
691
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You know, and so being able to like actually talk with people and to create a cohesive
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thing.
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And what I would do is find out what motivates each person.
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Very practical.
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Like, so I might find out the, the son is a soccer player and I talk about how the nutrition
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and their sleep habits can radically improve their performance and put them in a different
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league than everybody else, right?
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I find that leverage point for each family member and it's just like it creates this
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lasting impact to where literally I get messages to this day if people I work with 10,
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15 years ago, like, Sean, ever since that day or ever since that time that I worked
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with you, man, you changed the trajectory of my family.
702
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And so if we can find leverage points now for people listening, they might not know
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a Sean or a Mona directly, but what are those things that you can do to where it's coming
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from someone else's voice or perspective?
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This could be as simple as like, and I'm going to, since we're here, I'm going to be
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real.
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I'm going to be guys who are more heart-headed.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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As she's looking over.
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And so, but also we tend to be more skeptical too.
712
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:59.040
And so I found a great strategy to be like, this guy said something about like if you, you
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know, eat this food, like it helps improve your sleep quality, like what do you think about
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this?
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And like, maybe give him the paper or, you know, the study or send him the post and just
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see what you think about that.
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And then he might be like, you know, what?
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00:41:10.240 --> 00:41:15.120
Like, yeah, what a lot of guys would be like, I knew that already or whatever, you know,
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or, you know, I don't know about that, but it can spark a conversation versus you coming
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in and telling him what to do, which we tend to rebel.
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You know, it depends.
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It's not a man, woman, female, male thing.
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It depends on our personalities character, it depends on our character, but also what
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I've seen and working with a lot of people is that guys tend to be a little bit more
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00:41:38.120 --> 00:41:39.120
heart-headed.
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00:41:39.120 --> 00:41:43.560
And so, yeah, just being able to be like, you know, a little bit more of like, I'm just
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00:41:43.560 --> 00:41:46.600
student here, just like, what do you think, big daddy?
728
00:41:46.600 --> 00:41:49.200
You know, it's so like, put it in there to be a strategy.
729
00:41:49.200 --> 00:41:50.480
Yeah, I love that.
730
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.560
The other part to that though is if there's something around the health that you're interested
731
00:41:54.560 --> 00:41:58.600
in, if you start searching on your phone, you are part of this algorithm, right?
732
00:41:58.600 --> 00:41:59.600
Mm-hmm.
733
00:41:59.600 --> 00:42:00.600
I know.
734
00:42:00.600 --> 00:42:01.600
There's like a love and hate.
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You've got to be careful of the algorithm that you're part of.
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However, if you're talking about these conversations, if you gently send those recipes
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or articles or inspiration to the other people, change the algorithm.
738
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At least it gets the dialogue shifted, right?
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So owning on that, change the algorithm.
740
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And I want to point out too that people might not know, in your cookbook, you have recipes
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from your family.
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Yeah.
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And what I love about that in our house, what we do is like, one person will choose the
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food for the night.
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I want Indian tonight.
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00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:33.480
I want, we're being on Taco Tuesdays and, or if it's pasta, but people will have a say
747
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in what's being given.
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And I'm calling that out because I think that for a really long time now, women tend to
749
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be seen as the ones who kind of are the drivers of wellness in the house, but I think the
750
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part I'm shifting.
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00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.320
Like, I really think men want to be part of that and want to be inclusive.
752
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:55.920
And so having a man like you, who's a leader in a model for that is a really big deal.
753
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:56.920
Yes.
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00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:57.920
A thousand percent agree.
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I think that.
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A thousand percent agree.
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00:43:00.720 --> 00:43:06.280
And coming in that with intention, and so, for example, inviting my kids in on what
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00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.760
are we making for dinner this week, right?
759
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.600
And that's another buy-in for the family dinners, something to look forward to.
760
00:43:13.600 --> 00:43:18.720
So we're doing the planning, what kind of dessert do you guys want after dinner, right?
761
00:43:18.720 --> 00:43:24.640
So it might be the cherry yogurt pops that are on the cover of the book, or it might be
762
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the superfood bark that we make as well.
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So it could be like a buy-in on what we're actually preparing.
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00:43:32.040 --> 00:43:33.120
This is another great thing.
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00:43:33.120 --> 00:43:37.200
Again, you know your family better than anybody, what motivates them.
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00:43:37.200 --> 00:43:42.040
And so then being a part of deciding what we're going to eat together.
767
00:43:42.040 --> 00:43:46.840
And you know, my wife tends to do that quite a bit of like inviting me in on the conversation.
768
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:47.840
She knows how I am.
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Yeah.
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00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:49.840
You know what I mean?
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Like I want to say.
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I want to be, you know, a part of it.
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But I've loosened up on that a lot because we've intermingled so much, or just like,
774
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make, you know, just like, just pick something, it's fine.
775
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You know.
776
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And so yesterday, funny enough, and my son had this for dinner.
777
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One of the recipes in the book, it's this, it's a Greek bowl with these incredible meatballs
778
00:44:08.120 --> 00:44:11.520
and just all these different flavors and this is a flavor sensations.
779
00:44:11.520 --> 00:44:14.840
I think a big part of why this book is successful too is that we're big foodies.
780
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:15.840
Yeah.
781
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I love food.
782
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And we've accumulated these recipes over the years.
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And like you just mentioned, like, there's a hot chocolate recipe that I make my son
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00:44:26.240 --> 00:44:32.200
all the time, or that my, my oldest son randomly at our, you know, previous house, he just
785
00:44:32.200 --> 00:44:34.400
randomly made these cookies from like foreign ingredients.
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Amazing.
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And it's just like, okay, that's going in the book, right?
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And also my wife and I are perfecting some really delicious meals.
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We used to teach classes in food preparation as well.
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I didn't know that.
791
00:44:44.120 --> 00:44:45.120
Yeah.
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For years, we did that.
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And it got, it got bonkers, like trying to feed a lot of people in one class, like,
794
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it's like 34 feet.
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That's a skill.
796
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It's, it's a lot of work.
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But you know, again, just inviting people in on the process and this, another part of
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00:45:00.520 --> 00:45:04.920
that is inviting your kids in on the process of preparing the food.
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00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:05.920
Yes.
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This is another big part of this mission because right now somewhere around 30 plus percent
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of young people don't know how to prepare a single meal.
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We're talking like college age kids, like, so like under, you know, 25 and under.
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And adolescent.
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So we will just say 18 to 25 year olds don't even know how to make one meal for themselves.
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All right.
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It is a, it's because we coming on the Endangered Species list.
807
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Oh, I believe so.
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And so what happens and I share the data on this is that when they don't know how to prepare
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food for themselves, they automatically eat more ultra-processed foods.
810
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And family meals are also on the Endangered Species list.
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Only about 30 percent of American families eat together on a regular basis, right?
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This used to be the majority now, it's just extreme minority.
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00:45:49.160 --> 00:45:55.160
And so please invite your kids in, make some recipes together, give them this vital skill
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to be able to take care of themselves because this world like it is just going to be tantalizing
815
00:46:00.640 --> 00:46:03.720
them with like all these convenient, easy things.
816
00:46:03.720 --> 00:46:05.640
But this can be easy too.
817
00:46:05.640 --> 00:46:10.680
Just being able to whip up a couple of things for yourself with real foods can be absolutely
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00:46:10.680 --> 00:46:13.240
life sustaining truly.
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Make a recipe book as a family, right?
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If I could be doing anything right now, I would pack up my family, travel the world,
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go to every village and find like the sage wise older man or woman and like find all the
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recipes.
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00:46:25.720 --> 00:46:28.920
Let's document them before we lose it all and like trade it all in for these genetically
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modified food, fast food, everything, fast food nation.
825
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:33.800
You should do that.
826
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Right?
827
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I think so.
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Okay, good.
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I feel it out every time with guests and like, okay, you should do that.
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Okay, it's affirming.
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And I will to close that topic on men because we do have a lot of male listeners.
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00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.680
When my husband, he was inspired on a trip that we had to Morocco.
833
00:46:45.680 --> 00:46:49.920
He bought a Tejine pot and then just starts making these big Tejine pot meals.
834
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That was like a love language for me.
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It was like one of the most amazing kind of sexy things for a man to do.
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So tip to the men out there.
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Let's go back to how we eat and who we eat with being important, but also the science
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around how it drives our cravings and also our metabolism.
862
00:48:50.600 --> 00:48:54.120
When you speak to metabolism, when we think about the impact of our physiology, maybe
863
00:48:54.120 --> 00:48:56.560
we take it back to the mitochondria.
864
00:48:56.560 --> 00:49:03.320
When we think about our bodies actually utilizing the food as information, how could it shift
865
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our metabolism?
866
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:08.720
How could it shift our food cravings?
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00:49:08.720 --> 00:49:14.080
This is multilayered at its core, as soon as you're around other people, in particular,
868
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people that you have a relationship with, that you love, and that you care about, and
869
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:21.000
that you care about you, our biology changes dramatically.
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As I mentioned, this is an epigenetic influence.
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00:49:24.160 --> 00:49:27.760
One of the things that also, there's over 250 studies that are embedded into the content
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00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:34.200
of the book itself, but I talked about some data affirming how we're at this place now,
873
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where when I was in college, what I was taught was that genes control your destiny.
874
00:49:41.720 --> 00:49:45.800
If you have a genetic predisposition for a particular disease, and they started looking
875
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:50.800
for all these genes that cause disease, and that was the thing, like genes are the reason
876
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:51.800
like this is the problem.
877
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:57.760
Yeah, your lifestyle kind of matters whatever, but it was all really, all the chips went
878
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:01.480
on the deck of genes control your health.
879
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:09.840
Today, we know this, and we're so far from that, that upwards of 99% of disease manifestations,
880
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:15.440
unless you're born with a true genetic defect, unless you're born with a true genetic defect,
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00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:21.160
most of us get here with pretty healthy genes, and we don't have genes, and one of my mentors,
882
00:50:21.160 --> 00:50:24.960
and I've had multiple conversations with them about this, is cell biologist, Dr. Bruce
883
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:32.520
Lipton, and him being really the pioneering voice in epigenetics, he told me, Sean, we
884
00:50:32.520 --> 00:50:37.200
don't have genes for disease, and I was just like, whoa, there's a field that's ruffling
885
00:50:37.200 --> 00:50:42.680
my feathers, he's like, no, no, no, we don't have genes that code for disease.
886
00:50:42.680 --> 00:50:47.120
These genes can manifest or present certain symptoms, right?
887
00:50:47.120 --> 00:50:52.920
And so a good example of this might be type 2 diabetes, which is obviously of epidemic
888
00:50:52.920 --> 00:51:00.080
proportions today, where we have around half of the U.S. population, diabetic or prediabetic,
889
00:51:00.080 --> 00:51:08.880
and it was somewhere around 30 to 40%, and this is a quote, adult onset diabetes, right?
890
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:13.920
So you're not born with this, but something happens, and something happens along the way.
891
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:18.840
And what happens is, for example, we'll just say that one of your primary causative agents,
892
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:22.880
this epigenetic influence, is ultra-process foods, right?
893
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:27.880
Extreme amounts of sugar and carbohydrates, that your genes never interacted with for thousands
894
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:32.520
and thousands of years prior, and now you're getting exposed to, and now our body is responding
895
00:51:32.520 --> 00:51:37.120
and making an adaptation to that exposure to keep you alive.
896
00:51:37.520 --> 00:51:41.240
It's changing the way that it operates to help you to survive.
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But then we blame the stupid disease, like, body, why are you doing this thing?
898
00:51:45.040 --> 00:51:49.960
When we were exposed to something that was making us to adapt to this condition,
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and then, of course, what are we doing instead of removing the cause?
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00:51:53.520 --> 00:51:56.240
We start to treat the symptom and get into this vicious circle.
901
00:51:56.240 --> 00:51:57.280
A full cycle.
902
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:01.800
And so, and then we blame, always, you've got diabetes in your family, you know?
903
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:07.680
And yes, that absolutely plays a part, but it is a tiny, tiny part.
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00:52:07.680 --> 00:52:12.200
We know that the vast majority of, and what he shared with me was that, you know,
905
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we've got the human genome project.
906
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:19.040
We're expecting to have all these genes and come to find out, like, there's certain varieties
907
00:52:19.040 --> 00:52:22.200
of corn that have way more genes than humans do.
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00:52:22.200 --> 00:52:27.920
But what we have is incredible diversity in how genes can be expressed.
909
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.760
One gene can have thousands of different potential expressions.
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And that's what he shared with me, based on epigenetic inputs.
911
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So your environment, your diet, but every time I talk about these things as well,
912
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and this is exclusive stuff right here, every time I talk about those things,
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which I was studying Neutrogenomics, Neutrogenetics, but he'd be like,
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Sean, the mind first, the number one influence over your gene expression is your mind.
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00:52:55.680 --> 00:52:59.440
And it's just like, oh, it's so hard for me to like really accept that.
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But then as I dove deeper and deeper into the data over the years,
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every thought we think has correlating chemistry that's instantaneously produced.
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00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:13.400
And so if we're having thoughts of anxiety and or something that's pissing us off
919
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:16.600
or something that we just feel joyful about, we feel that feeling
920
00:53:16.600 --> 00:53:22.120
because there's a change in our chemistry with that said and to put a bow on this
921
00:53:22.120 --> 00:53:23.520
and tie it all back together.
922
00:53:23.520 --> 00:53:27.800
When we're around people that we care about, there's a deep, deep change
923
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:29.480
that happens with our biochemistry.
924
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:33.800
This is unconscious to start thoughts of even if we're pissed off at them for whatever reason,
925
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:38.880
if we know that we love this person or our family members, our chemistry changes.
926
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:45.920
And it elicits more of what we would refer to as anti-aging expressions of certain things.
927
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:50.120
And so what we are doing when we stack conditions in our favor with our environment,
928
00:53:50.120 --> 00:54:00.040
with our family members and understanding that we need this for healthy genetic expression.
929
00:54:00.040 --> 00:54:03.360
We need each other more than ever.
930
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:07.160
We know the ramifications with social isolation, it's deadly.
931
00:54:07.160 --> 00:54:10.960
And we know that being with people that we care about having healthy social bonds
932
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:14.840
is the number one, from the longest running study on humans,
933
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:18.720
number one, determinant of how long you're going to live is your relationships.
934
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:21.680
And it's because it's impacting you at the level of your genes.
935
00:54:21.680 --> 00:54:23.640
And so I hope that that answered the question.
936
00:54:23.640 --> 00:54:25.320
It does answer the question completely.
937
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:27.120
And I love that you took it there.
938
00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:31.560
I'm doing my masters in quantum healing and Dr. Lipton's one of the professors in that.
939
00:54:31.560 --> 00:54:35.400
And I have to say, looking back, do you not believe after your diagnosis?
940
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:38.800
If you didn't believe that you could heal, done.
941
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:41.880
If I believe that I was going to have a heart condition for the rest of my life,
942
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.920
prescription after prescription, I want to throw that back at the audience
943
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:48.680
because so often we witness people in our family and our circle getting sick.
944
00:54:48.720 --> 00:54:50.600
We believe that it could be part of us.
945
00:54:50.600 --> 00:54:52.640
And this is what gets me with longevity right now.
946
00:54:52.640 --> 00:54:55.040
We talk about longevity in our circle as well.
947
00:54:55.040 --> 00:54:59.120
So if it is fear-base, like the fear of getting older, the fear of getting sick,
948
00:54:59.120 --> 00:55:02.400
and it's like, well, are you taking the supplements and the vitamins and working out
949
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:04.680
because it makes you feel good and you're happy?
950
00:55:04.680 --> 00:55:08.640
Or is it driven by fear and the fear is the emotion of what's in your body?
951
00:55:08.640 --> 00:55:10.800
We have to switch our perspective and change our lens.
952
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:13.320
So I think belief is something that's so huge.
953
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.560
And going back to something that you said earlier with heart meth,
954
00:55:16.560 --> 00:55:19.760
just thinking about someone that you love changes your physiology.
955
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:24.320
I took those old school epigenetics tests within school and nutrition school and stuff like that too.
956
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:26.880
And there's a completely different lens
957
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:29.680
in how we understand epigenetics today.
958
00:55:29.680 --> 00:55:32.960
Do you recommend that people do their epigenetic testing?
959
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:34.760
That's such a good question.
960
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:35.760
Oh my gosh.
961
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:36.600
Okay.
962
00:55:36.600 --> 00:55:41.200
So I just did wet again at this current time,
963
00:55:41.200 --> 00:55:45.320
appears to be the most advanced panel on, you know,
964
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:49.560
it's like 110 different biomarkers and in addition to that,
965
00:55:49.560 --> 00:55:53.960
you can get like CT scans and all this stuff to come up with your biological age.
966
00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:54.960
This is where we are.
967
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:57.760
Again, I think there's, yes, we have these objective measurements,
968
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:01.200
but some of that being a quote biological age is still subjective.
969
00:56:01.200 --> 00:56:06.400
Like there's nothing that's invented today that could tell you like how old you are,
970
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:12.560
biologically, but we can see some very close approximations, right?
971
00:56:12.560 --> 00:56:13.960
And so I just did that.
972
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:14.480
Cool.
973
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:18.400
I am almost eight years younger biologically than I am chronologically,
974
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.040
which is pretty dope according to this.
975
00:56:21.040 --> 00:56:23.680
And also I see this room for improvement.
976
00:56:23.680 --> 00:56:29.280
Like there's this one surprising nutrient deficiency that I was just like what?
977
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:33.080
And by and this one was a controller of so many other things.
978
00:56:33.080 --> 00:56:35.840
And so just being able to focus on that can make me even more.
979
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.400
But basically slow my rate of aging, let's not say reverse my age per se,
980
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:42.200
but slow my rate of aging dramatically.
981
00:56:42.200 --> 00:56:47.200
And so I was actually one of the keynote speakers for one of these big biohacking events,
982
00:56:47.200 --> 00:56:50.240
like V big white, you know, day to day.
983
00:56:50.240 --> 00:56:53.320
But I was brought in to be like the grounded person, you know what I mean?
984
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:57.280
Just like listen, I know you guys want to take all this shit in the other room
985
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.040
and do all these treatments, but just go for a walk.
986
00:57:00.040 --> 00:57:00.560
Yeah.
987
00:57:00.560 --> 00:57:02.880
So I'm coming and I'm sharing the data on this.
988
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:08.000
And, you know, and so it's the approximation is so much closer, right?
989
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:11.600
We over complicate things because of fear, right?
990
00:57:11.600 --> 00:57:15.680
And so I'm very big on practicality.
991
00:57:15.680 --> 00:57:20.160
And doing that and getting that blood work done, I think it speaks to some people.
992
00:57:20.160 --> 00:57:23.400
Like my wife is very analytical with that when it comes to that stuff.
993
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:26.680
Self quantification motivates her immensely.
994
00:57:26.680 --> 00:57:28.200
I don't want to do that.
995
00:57:28.200 --> 00:57:32.640
I want to pay more attention and advocate for people to pay attention to how you feel.
996
00:57:32.640 --> 00:57:36.920
Pay attention to how you look, how you feel, how you perform.
997
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.240
Just see yourself, right?
998
00:57:39.240 --> 00:57:40.240
Pay attention.
999
00:57:40.240 --> 00:57:43.200
Like, am I doing something and then like, I'm hella puffy the next day.
1000
00:57:43.200 --> 00:57:45.920
Like your body's telling you, you don't need a blood test.
1001
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.720
You don't need like this complicated thing to tell you.
1002
00:57:47.720 --> 00:57:50.480
Like that thing didn't really job with you, right?
1003
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:53.080
But we're so externally focused today.
1004
00:57:53.080 --> 00:57:55.680
So many things are pulling our attention outside of our bodies.
1005
00:57:55.680 --> 00:57:57.320
I know this intimately.
1006
00:57:57.320 --> 00:57:59.320
We can have all the studies in the world.
1007
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:01.680
And by the way, you can go and look at my track record.
1008
00:58:01.680 --> 00:58:07.680
I've got stuff from almost 20 years ago where I'm using peer reviewed data to affirm a certain
1009
00:58:07.680 --> 00:58:09.800
point, which has become popular today.
1010
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:10.800
Right.
1011
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:11.800
I did that.
1012
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:12.800
I'm going to share this with you.
1013
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:13.800
I've been really talked about this before.
1014
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:18.640
I did that because when I started to like speak at these different events and I go like
1015
00:58:18.640 --> 00:58:21.400
speak to the biology department at a university.
1016
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.720
And I've been in this field for like 23 years now.
1017
00:58:23.720 --> 00:58:28.440
I felt inadequate because I didn't finish the pre-med track.
1018
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:31.240
I got out of there because I hated it.
1019
00:58:31.240 --> 00:58:34.240
Life brought me back to studying health.
1020
00:58:34.240 --> 00:58:38.360
And so and I'm coming at this with a different perspective of overcoming a so-called incurable
1021
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:44.440
disease that the way that you're teaching is it put me into that position, right?
1022
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:46.440
With a no-seeable effect, right?
1023
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:48.240
This is incurable what I have.
1024
00:58:48.240 --> 00:58:50.640
And that made everything exponentially worse.
1025
00:58:50.640 --> 00:58:52.640
And so I'm coming in to speak to this department.
1026
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:57.200
I think at the time I was like talking about calamars and whatnot, which I know Elizabeth
1027
00:58:57.200 --> 00:59:01.520
Blackburn and Alyssa Eppel and like that whole thing.
1028
00:59:01.520 --> 00:59:07.240
But I felt like I've got to come with the data just so they listened to me about practicality.
1029
00:59:07.240 --> 00:59:11.240
I did it with a purpose because I didn't have a lab code on.
1030
00:59:11.240 --> 00:59:12.240
And I'm just, you see me?
1031
00:59:12.240 --> 00:59:18.440
Like I'm just like, oh cool guy, you know, I show up how I am authentically.
1032
00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:24.360
And so that's why I was using published data to affirm a point or something practical.
1033
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:29.520
Now it's like used in everything, you know, a physicalis uses this template and many
1034
00:59:29.520 --> 00:59:33.680
of these folks and they've sat in my office or in my studio and they share with me like
1035
00:59:33.680 --> 00:59:37.760
I was listening to your show for years prior to what I'm doing and I could see that template
1036
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:44.040
and it's a great model because it provides some verification for you to tell the story
1037
00:59:44.040 --> 00:59:45.760
and to empower people.
1038
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:51.200
But we're at a point now where these studies can mess people up because that study is
1039
00:59:51.200 --> 00:59:56.800
not the end all be all that study might say this thing that's completely wrong for you.
1040
00:59:56.800 --> 01:00:02.680
And an end of one experiment is more than enough like you could be doing something that works
1041
01:00:02.680 --> 01:00:07.360
remarkably for you that doesn't seem to work for anybody else that you know, you're not
1042
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:11.240
going to honor that because of this study says that this isn't good for you.
1043
01:00:11.240 --> 01:00:17.320
You know, we've got to take back our agency and to yes, we can have enough shared a bunch
1044
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:18.320
of studies.
1045
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:23.560
We can have that data, but the most important data, more powerful than any of these studies
1046
01:00:23.560 --> 01:00:28.880
is the data that your body is presenting to you literally every single microsecond of
1047
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:29.880
your life.
1048
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:31.960
If you just take a moment and tune in.
1049
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:32.960
You got it.
1050
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:33.960
God.
1051
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:34.960
I love that.
1052
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.360
That literally word for word is the inspiration for this podcast.
1053
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.600
How do we merge that ancient belief system?
1054
01:00:39.600 --> 01:00:41.400
I say with modern medicine, right?
1055
01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:45.000
There's so many gifts to modern medicine having this information is really, really nice,
1056
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:49.920
but as much as we can talk about root cause healing, any doctor who's getting that lab report
1057
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:55.640
and they're seeing an increase in liver enzymes or lipids that are elevated that doesn't
1058
01:00:55.640 --> 01:00:58.640
give you root cause doesn't help you understand any differently.
1059
01:00:58.640 --> 01:01:02.880
You've got to go out and figure out how what the source is for you and how you can, you
1060
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:07.640
know, switch tracks and for healing 99% of the people that I work with.
1061
01:01:07.640 --> 01:01:10.800
It starts with the supplements and the food plan and that because that's what their
1062
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:15.400
condition to thinking, then it turns into, ah, no, that doesn't feel good for my body.
1063
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.440
I want to do this and said, right?
1064
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:21.480
And to bring that back to everything that you've said, I think the foundation of what you're
1065
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:26.840
speaking to today, it comes down to an emotion that you, it's a state that you're setting
1066
01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:32.160
within your body and that state starts with community and with the state that you're
1067
01:01:32.160 --> 01:01:34.960
putting your body and when you're with people that you love when you're eating with other
1068
01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:36.920
people instead of isolation.
1069
01:01:37.080 --> 01:01:37.920
Absolutely.
1070
01:01:38.040 --> 01:01:45.000
And one last point with this is that why are relationships so impactful?
1071
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:50.320
Yes, the leading researcher said it was stress, metabolizing stress, which is dope.
1072
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:51.040
Okay, got it.
1073
01:01:51.560 --> 01:01:56.040
One of the things that I feel again, and of one understanding of this is that, and this
1074
01:01:56.040 --> 01:01:58.840
is going to be obvious once I say it, but we don't have public date on this.
1075
01:01:59.120 --> 01:02:02.120
Your relationships impact what you eat more than anything else.
1076
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:05.000
Your relationships impact your sleep habits more than anyone else.
1077
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.720
Your relationships impact your exercise habits more than anything else.
1078
01:02:08.720 --> 01:02:13.920
I said, anyone else, but anything else, you know that your husband is going to impact
1079
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:14.400
your sleep.
1080
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:17.720
Your wife is going to your kids are going to impact yourself more than anything else.
1081
01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.040
So again, your relationships are the tip of the spear.
1082
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:25.960
It's that thing that it's the umbrella under which everything else sits because it impacts
1083
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:26.720
everything so much.
1084
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:28.840
So what if you get the relationships right?
1085
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:33.040
So it automatically makes everything easier, invest in that thing because it's going
1086
01:02:33.040 --> 01:02:36.000
to be influencing you, period, you can't get away from it.
1087
01:02:36.520 --> 01:02:42.480
And there are like, of course, if you have enough will, you can be that person in your
1088
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:45.480
family that gets out and goes to the gym and gets the hell away from your family.
1089
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:48.560
Like this is my whatever, you know, I'm dedicated to this thing.
1090
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:53.720
But what I found to be more beneficial is instead of dad going to this magical
1091
01:02:53.720 --> 01:02:58.640
place, come call the gym and coming back like happier and, you know, sweaty or whatever.
1092
01:02:58.840 --> 01:02:59.720
Just like, where were you?
1093
01:02:59.720 --> 01:03:03.280
You know, it's more like, let me show them what I'm doing.
1094
01:03:03.560 --> 01:03:04.400
Yeah, right.
1095
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.080
Let me do this in front of them.
1096
01:03:06.080 --> 01:03:07.600
Let's train together.
1097
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:08.080
Yeah.
1098
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:10.600
And so I intentionally did that early on.
1099
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:14.520
And to this day, like my son is sitting in the other room, he's 13 years old.
1100
01:03:15.040 --> 01:03:18.800
He's, I don't have to tell him, he's just going to get out and train.
1101
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:20.080
He's going to, he's going to shoot around.
1102
01:03:20.080 --> 01:03:21.400
He's going to do some exercise.
1103
01:03:21.680 --> 01:03:24.440
He's going to ask like, what can I do?
1104
01:03:24.720 --> 01:03:28.800
And like, even if we, we do game together, by the way, which they had a terrible game
1105
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:33.480
yesterday, but after that, like we go outside and we play in the real world, you
1106
01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:36.560
know, we went outside and played horse, you know, shot around.
1107
01:03:37.040 --> 01:03:38.560
And we have this balance.
1108
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:42.560
And he invites that balance because of our culture that we've created.
1109
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:44.280
And so it helps to affirm.
1110
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:47.520
It makes everything so much easier when you get the culture right.
1111
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:49.560
And so I wanted to share that.
1112
01:03:49.560 --> 01:03:54.840
And also, if I can close with some tips to go back with, you know, this, this
1113
01:03:54.840 --> 01:04:00.760
family eating phenomenon today, more than never, if I pull out my phone and you
1114
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:03.160
as well, we've got all this stuff on our calendar that's scheduled.
1115
01:04:03.640 --> 01:04:04.800
Isn't our family more important?
1116
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:07.440
Our family is more important than any of that stuff.
1117
01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:10.120
But we usually don't put them on our schedule.
1118
01:04:10.640 --> 01:04:11.520
Schedule it.
1119
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:16.720
Three meals per week is that minimum effective dose, seeing across multiple studies,
1120
01:04:16.720 --> 01:04:21.200
I'd share a couple, schedule it, make it sacred, put it on your calendar.
1121
01:04:21.680 --> 01:04:24.720
And so this, and whatever that looks like for your family, it doesn't have to
1122
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:27.800
be dinner, by the way, this could be brunch on Sunday, like we just did.
1123
01:04:28.040 --> 01:04:29.400
And then a couple of meals per week.
1124
01:04:29.680 --> 01:04:32.240
This could be coffee with friends, right?
1125
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:34.240
And I'm taking talking outside of your family.
1126
01:04:34.240 --> 01:04:38.480
If you don't have kids, if you don't, friends count to, yes, all right.
1127
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:42.560
Shout out to friends, shout out to Ross and all those guys, Rachel.
1128
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:47.040
But friends, friends count to and having that inner, that, that very powerful
1129
01:04:47.040 --> 01:04:49.800
interaction. So this could begin coffee with your friends, schedule it.
1130
01:04:50.240 --> 01:04:53.880
This could be, you know, maybe you have family dinners Monday, Wednesday,
1131
01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:57.160
then brunch on Sunday or family dinner Monday through Thursday.
1132
01:04:57.160 --> 01:05:01.040
Then one of the things we haven't been eating together is frequently because
1133
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:05.160
basketball season, we've been watching a ton of basketball while him playing
1134
01:05:05.160 --> 01:05:08.880
basketball and watching basketball while having dinner.
1135
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:11.600
And it's just been like, it's a season for that with us right now.
1136
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:15.240
But we have a deep anchor in us eating together and talking in,
1137
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:17.720
even outside of that, if we don't have that time of sitting down any
1138
01:05:17.720 --> 01:05:22.440
together, we have time of us seeing each other and talking like even a walk over
1139
01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:25.640
your five minute walk, just me and my son, I know.
1140
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:30.400
And so having a such boy, so schedule it, make it real, schedule it.
1141
01:05:30.680 --> 01:05:34.680
That's, that's tip number two because we talked earlier about having
1142
01:05:34.680 --> 01:05:38.400
something of value attached to the meal, right?
1143
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:42.760
So find out what that thing is, make it fun, make it, it doesn't have to necessarily
1144
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:47.240
be like super fun, but like something rewarding, something connecting.
1145
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:51.840
It could be even a tough conversation, you know, it could be apparently my
1146
01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:56.520
mother-in-law used to ask my, my wife and her sister when they were little,
1147
01:05:56.560 --> 01:06:01.360
like littles, like, you know, what's the meaning of life type questions and
1148
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:03.400
having philosophical conversations, right?
1149
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:03.960
What a gift.
1150
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:06.280
So whatever that looks like for you.
1151
01:06:06.720 --> 01:06:10.160
And as we've talked about multiple times, make it a phone free zone.
1152
01:06:10.520 --> 01:06:11.200
Absolutely.
1153
01:06:11.520 --> 01:06:11.800
Yeah.
1154
01:06:12.080 --> 01:06:15.880
Another study done on children, minority children who are generally in the
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01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:20.480
context of a low income environment, like I come from, I can literally count
1156
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:21.320
on my hands.
1157
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:24.160
How many times I sat down and ate in me with my parents, okay?
1158
01:06:24.200 --> 01:06:26.760
Outside of a holiday, it just didn't happen.
1159
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:28.200
It wasn't a part of my reality.
1160
01:06:28.720 --> 01:06:33.200
But I know if my parents knew, if they deeply knew that eating with their
1161
01:06:33.200 --> 01:06:37.080
kids was going to protect them against illness, they would have done it.
1162
01:06:37.720 --> 01:06:38.760
There weren't bad people.
1163
01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:43.040
We just didn't know and we're living in just chaos, essentially.
1164
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:46.600
We'd eat a lot of the same time, but we just grab and go, you know, getting
1165
01:06:46.600 --> 01:06:47.440
from the screen.
1166
01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:49.800
I sat down and ate with my brother, sister quite a bit.
1167
01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:54.200
But I couldn't wait to get back outside or go to the TV, play a video game,
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01:06:54.200 --> 01:06:55.160
whatever the case might be.
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01:06:55.560 --> 01:07:01.600
And so we know that our phones are, our devices are dividing us.
1170
01:07:02.040 --> 01:07:04.360
Our devices are our devices are divisive.
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01:07:05.040 --> 01:07:11.600
And so even having the phone in an eyesight and I shared a study in the
1172
01:07:11.600 --> 01:07:14.200
East Martyr cookbook actually on this pulls away.
1173
01:07:14.200 --> 01:07:17.600
It's like the latest trapping people up and monitoring their brain activity.
1174
01:07:17.640 --> 01:07:21.880
It pulls away attention from the moment because your brain knows if it sees
1175
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:23.320
that phone, there's so many goodies in there.
1176
01:07:24.040 --> 01:07:27.360
And so make it a phone free zone because that study on these children found
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01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:31.960
that when parents or caregivers ate with their kids four meals per week,
1178
01:07:32.240 --> 01:07:33.040
didn't matter which meal.
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01:07:33.600 --> 01:07:37.400
They ate five or more servings of fruits and vegetables five days a week.
1180
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:40.920
And significantly less ultra processed foods, namely chips and soda.
1181
01:07:41.240 --> 01:07:45.520
But what they noted in the study was this, if the TV was never a rarely on,
1182
01:07:46.520 --> 01:07:51.840
there's something about having that thing in between everybody plus the marketing
1183
01:07:52.200 --> 01:07:57.320
to the children, children who watch it was like every hour that a child is
1184
01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:03.000
watching television led to a consumption of 127 more calories per day.
1185
01:08:03.640 --> 01:08:06.760
And it's that, of course, it's from ultra processed foods in the marketing
1186
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:07.680
and those kind of things.
1187
01:08:07.680 --> 01:08:12.080
So with all that said, make it a phone free zone, tech free.
1188
01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:14.760
Of course, put a playlist on whatever case might be fine.
1189
01:08:15.040 --> 01:08:18.560
Yeah, make that a time to be present with each other.
1190
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:22.840
That time is for you and it's so healing for everybody is connection.
1191
01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:25.320
The missing ingredient to everyone's wellness plan.
1192
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:26.560
Absolutely.
1193
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:30.240
So number one, number one, let's just reiterate that.
1194
01:08:30.240 --> 01:08:37.200
So family meals, link to 35% just three times a week, link to 35% lower risk
1195
01:08:37.200 --> 01:08:41.760
of disorder eating, better school performance, lower obesity rates in kids.
1196
01:08:42.080 --> 01:08:43.960
This is one of the studies that you that you pulled out.
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01:08:44.160 --> 01:08:48.040
We have to really own this and I think that we need to model it when we're out in
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01:08:48.040 --> 01:08:50.760
the world and talk about it with our friends because it's the only way that we're
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01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:54.320
going to see change because using a screen is just going to become more normalized
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01:08:54.320 --> 01:08:55.560
moving forward, right?
1201
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:56.680
So great tip.
1202
01:08:57.280 --> 01:08:57.600
All right.
1203
01:08:57.640 --> 01:08:59.800
I want to get some more things out of you as we wrap things up.
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01:09:00.120 --> 01:09:02.480
You've written that connection is one of the most overlooked ingredients in your
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01:09:02.480 --> 01:09:03.240
wellness plan.
1206
01:09:03.440 --> 01:09:07.840
But talk to us like what are some of the trends that you're seeing out in the world
1207
01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:12.040
in terms of food consumption for children that are really impacting their physical
1208
01:09:12.040 --> 01:09:13.360
and their emotional development?
1209
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:14.360
Yes.
1210
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:16.240
So this goes back to that study.
1211
01:09:16.240 --> 01:09:19.920
We mentioned at the beginning from JAMA, so the average child in the United States
1212
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:24.440
right now, the 20 year study is eating almost 70% ultra-process foods.
1213
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:28.840
That is absolutely atrocious and it's unacceptable.
1214
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:33.520
This doesn't make any sense at all except the fact that the culture that we have has
1215
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:35.680
normalized the consumption of these fake foods.
1216
01:09:36.160 --> 01:09:36.600
All right.
1217
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:41.920
Now the trend is that what I'm an advocate for is just don't go cold turkey.
1218
01:09:42.200 --> 01:09:47.200
Let's change the ratio even though this could be easily framed as like I'm making
1219
01:09:47.200 --> 01:09:48.600
this as bad food or the villain.
1220
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:49.800
Humans are awesome.
1221
01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:52.040
Like we've created some really cool stuff that's tasty.
1222
01:09:52.040 --> 01:09:55.480
We've got these brilliant food scientists who are doing all this incredible
1223
01:09:55.480 --> 01:09:58.120
innovation to make foods taste a certain way.
1224
01:09:58.360 --> 01:10:01.000
We can acknowledge what that is appreciated.
1225
01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:06.320
Let's not villainize it and just have more of real stuff that we know.
1226
01:10:06.320 --> 01:10:09.640
Again, we've been eating for thousands of years and saved some space for a little
1227
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:14.120
fun stuff, you know, quote, fun stuff for, for, which even as I say that.
1228
01:10:14.440 --> 01:10:15.200
Yeah, I don't know.
1229
01:10:15.200 --> 01:10:19.720
It's fun to have to, but just like let's not villainize the Twinkie.
1230
01:10:20.160 --> 01:10:22.840
And I'm saying that because I've thought a lot about this.
1231
01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:26.280
Like I'll contemplate on Twinkie for like just I'm going to walk and think about it
1232
01:10:26.280 --> 01:10:26.880
for an hour.
1233
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:28.840
It has value.
1234
01:10:29.200 --> 01:10:30.440
It has its own value.
1235
01:10:30.440 --> 01:10:34.200
You know, if this was an apocalypse situation, like that Twinkie can keep you cold
1236
01:10:34.200 --> 01:10:34.680
for a day.
1237
01:10:35.080 --> 01:10:37.520
I just watched, we're going through right now since my son is 13.
1238
01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:39.800
We're going through the Archive Denzel watch the movies.
1239
01:10:40.120 --> 01:10:43.440
We just watch a book of Eli and the movie starts off with him.
1240
01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:47.880
It's more like they're eating a cat, all right, eats a cat.
1241
01:10:48.400 --> 01:10:52.360
And I'm just like in that situation, like if he came across a Twinkie,
1242
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:56.080
I mean, that is literally like cause for celebration.
1243
01:10:56.080 --> 01:10:57.800
Like for real, we're going to throw a party.
1244
01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:58.960
We found a box of Twinkies.
1245
01:10:59.400 --> 01:11:03.520
So that can be around for a hundred years because it never dies.
1246
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:06.880
Basically, it's like designed to be, you know, it's fake.
1247
01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:09.040
It never, it never had any life force to it.
1248
01:11:09.240 --> 01:11:11.200
And, you know, but it can sustain you.
1249
01:11:11.200 --> 01:11:12.040
It has its value.
1250
01:11:12.360 --> 01:11:16.280
And I'm open to the possibility that all this ultra processed food we're consuming
1251
01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.480
is mutating us in some beneficial way.
1252
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:19.080
Okay.
1253
01:11:19.080 --> 01:11:20.680
Maybe we're going to get extra powers.
1254
01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:21.400
I don't know.
1255
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:24.040
I'm just saying I'm throwing out that we don't know.
1256
01:11:24.320 --> 01:11:26.400
Chances are it's really messing us up.
1257
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:28.800
Extremely, extremely bad.
1258
01:11:29.280 --> 01:11:30.640
But I'm open to that.
1259
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:33.960
And I'm saying I'm setting it up like this to say, we don't want to villainize
1260
01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:36.840
this thing because it tends to push people towards the
1261
01:11:37.200 --> 01:11:39.280
the things we tell them to stay away from, right?
1262
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:42.440
Let's focus on adding in, shifting the ratio.
1263
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:44.880
I'm a big advocate of 80, 20, right?
1264
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:49.720
80% real food to make that the basis of your diet and say that 20% for,
1265
01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:52.480
you know, whatever you want to dibble and dabble in.
1266
01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:53.080
Yeah.
1267
01:11:53.080 --> 01:11:53.520
All right.
1268
01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:58.640
So that's kind of just one of the big like mindset shifts to take with that.
1269
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:01.000
I think you could bring someone a lot of joy.
1270
01:12:01.040 --> 01:12:03.440
And if it's the joy, that's the rainfall in your body.
1271
01:12:03.440 --> 01:12:04.440
I totally get it.
1272
01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:08.520
But to your point, it's like once you get to the part of doing the healing
1273
01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:12.200
where the foundation is solid, I think our bodies are so resilient that we can
1274
01:12:12.200 --> 01:12:12.760
handle it.
1275
01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:14.840
It's when it becomes in excess.
1276
01:12:15.320 --> 01:12:18.000
So what about the tips like the parents who are listening and we're like, yeah,
1277
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.520
but Sean, you know, there's goal fish everywhere at my school.
1278
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:22.560
Cheerios are there every single morning.
1279
01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:25.920
There's coffee cake and you know, the school saying it's good for me.
1280
01:12:26.320 --> 01:12:31.200
How do we make parents understand that it's really up to them to make the change?
1281
01:12:31.200 --> 01:12:33.640
I get hate mail and go go fish crackers, by the way.
1282
01:12:34.440 --> 01:12:37.000
I'm so anti goal fish, but I get hate mail on it.
1283
01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:39.280
Yeah, but what are some tips for for those people?
1284
01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:42.720
The first of all, the power is in your hands, you know, so much of our
1285
01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:46.080
culture has been outsourcing our kids, everything to other people.
1286
01:12:46.200 --> 01:12:47.880
And we just need to be honest about that.
1287
01:12:48.080 --> 01:12:48.520
Yeah.
1288
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:53.360
Now this doesn't mean we have to be, you know, live on, you know, off the grid
1289
01:12:53.360 --> 01:12:55.720
and, you know, homeschool or our kids and all this stuff.
1290
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:58.520
And more power to people who choose to do these things.
1291
01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:02.160
But this doesn't have to be either or situation.
1292
01:13:02.440 --> 01:13:05.160
I'm a firm believer that it's a both end world.
1293
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:12.000
And our responsibility, our blessing, our greatest gift is to be able to
1294
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.920
create that foundation and set the template for these kids, right?
1295
01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:16.440
And so do the things that we can.
1296
01:13:16.480 --> 01:13:19.200
We know that at school, yeah, they're going to have, there's going to be candy.
1297
01:13:19.200 --> 01:13:19.960
There's going to be this.
1298
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:20.640
There's going to be that.
1299
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:22.080
But what are you doing at home?
1300
01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:25.360
Like let's really stack conditions, make sure we get all the good stuff we
1301
01:13:25.360 --> 01:13:28.800
can when they're at home and find creative ways to do that.
1302
01:13:29.320 --> 01:13:33.040
And also lean into innovation, right?
1303
01:13:33.040 --> 01:13:38.640
And so goldfish crackers, there are, quote, healthier iterations of these.
1304
01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:41.280
Absolutely everything, less of everything.
1305
01:13:41.280 --> 01:13:42.520
Now it is insane.
1306
01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:45.880
Anything that you could think of, there's a healthier version of that thing now
1307
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:48.920
because humans were like, you know, I really love pizza.
1308
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:50.840
But I know it totally messed me up.
1309
01:13:51.120 --> 01:13:54.680
So they're creating these like healthier versions of anything that you could
1310
01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:55.400
think of, right?
1311
01:13:55.720 --> 01:14:00.240
Just yesterday, with on Father's Day, we got, and this is a,
1312
01:14:00.240 --> 01:14:05.040
this is a plug for our favorite YouTuber, Ryan Trayham, all right?
1313
01:14:05.040 --> 01:14:06.960
That my son, I will watch his videos together.
1314
01:14:07.200 --> 01:14:10.040
But he's got a company that he created this young kid.
1315
01:14:10.040 --> 01:14:14.840
He's like, I'm going to guess he's probably 25, but he created a candy company
1316
01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:15.680
called Joyride.
1317
01:14:16.040 --> 01:14:17.040
Oh, yeah.
1318
01:14:17.040 --> 01:14:22.120
Yeah, and so it has no artificial colors, significant less sugar.
1319
01:14:22.440 --> 01:14:24.560
But kids really love it and they love him.
1320
01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:25.160
Right.
1321
01:14:25.160 --> 01:14:28.880
And so he's wanting to make his candy, the number one candy at Targets.
1322
01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:32.600
He's number two right now, but it's just like even these kids that are
1323
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:36.320
getting some of these ideas and truths about nutrition.
1324
01:14:36.320 --> 01:14:38.080
They're trying to find a way like, hey, I'm a kid.
1325
01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:38.920
I still like candy.
1326
01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:42.920
You know, I want these sour strips and, you know, twists and things like that.
1327
01:14:43.200 --> 01:14:46.800
But I can we do it a little bit better and not hurt ourselves so much and also
1328
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:49.040
understand that's just candy.
1329
01:14:49.040 --> 01:14:52.000
Like, let me eat real food as a primary thing in my diet.
1330
01:14:52.320 --> 01:14:53.600
And it's okay to have some of this stuff.
1331
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:57.040
So be an advocate for better than, right?
1332
01:14:57.400 --> 01:15:01.120
And you can be an advocate at your at your school, at your kids school as well.
1333
01:15:01.120 --> 01:15:02.120
You can be an influence.
1334
01:15:02.120 --> 01:15:03.080
You could suggest things.
1335
01:15:03.080 --> 01:15:04.280
You could talk about things.
1336
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:06.720
You can get other parents together, right?
1337
01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:10.120
They have meetings for this kind of stuff or you can put them together
1338
01:15:10.120 --> 01:15:12.080
yourself and you can change.
1339
01:15:12.120 --> 01:15:13.760
And I'm saying this from a place of experience.
1340
01:15:14.120 --> 01:15:19.320
Some of my friends Kelly Starrett, Dr. Kelly Starrett and his wife, Julia Starrett,
1341
01:15:19.400 --> 01:15:20.480
incredible coaches.
1342
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:22.680
They've got standing desk at their kids schools.
1343
01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:23.680
Incredible, really.
1344
01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:25.040
They've got standing desk put in.
1345
01:15:25.040 --> 01:15:25.520
Wow.
1346
01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:26.040
Yeah.
1347
01:15:26.040 --> 01:15:29.840
And, you know, again, it's just because of who they are and the influence and
1348
01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:31.000
have these conversations.
1349
01:15:31.200 --> 01:15:34.480
Things are changing right now and we could be a part of that change.
1350
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:35.280
Beautiful.
1351
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:36.400
It's happening.
1352
01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:38.920
I really do feel it's happening on the flip side then.
1353
01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:41.600
Let's talk about what are some of your favorite superfoods to support?
1354
01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:45.280
Not only your metabolic health, but just overall your emotions, your sleep,
1355
01:15:45.480 --> 01:15:48.080
everything that you've kind of poured your your life work into.
1356
01:15:48.080 --> 01:15:49.920
What are your some of your favorite staples at home?
1357
01:15:50.400 --> 01:15:51.520
That is so tough.
1358
01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:56.240
I know, I know, but I want to give people an action list of what to go and
1359
01:15:56.240 --> 01:15:56.760
purchase.
1360
01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:58.640
Now that they're not going for the two in keys, what are they buying?
1361
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:01.720
Well, that's a big bridge.
1362
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:07.280
As my son would tell you, like, I'm a very, I think a lot of dad's
1363
01:16:07.280 --> 01:16:09.400
tend to be really great breakfast guys.
1364
01:16:09.440 --> 01:16:11.240
Yes, he is.
1365
01:16:11.440 --> 01:16:16.760
You know, so in the book, for example, I shared my breakfast sandwich, right?
1366
01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:21.480
And I was inspired to do this years ago because of, because of
1367
01:16:21.480 --> 01:16:27.320
a movie Big Daddy with Adam Sandler, and he took the kid who, you know, he was
1368
01:16:27.320 --> 01:16:30.640
thinking that this was his kid and like, you know, it was a whole crazy situation.
1369
01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:34.800
But anyways, trying to go to McDonald's to get breakfast, you know, and they
1370
01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:39.600
get there at 11 and he comes to find out the breakfast stopped serving at 10
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01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:40.080
30.
1372
01:16:40.080 --> 01:16:40.920
It was a whole thing.
1373
01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:44.600
And I, if ever since watching that, I felt that feeling like, oh, I hate
1374
01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:45.600
when they stopped breakfast.
1375
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:49.360
And I love like the egg McMuffin and all those kind of things at breakfast
1376
01:16:49.360 --> 01:16:51.400
sandwiches. So I made an upgraded breakfast sandwich.
1377
01:16:51.400 --> 01:16:52.120
That's the name of it.
1378
01:16:52.520 --> 01:16:55.480
And my son absolutely loves it.
1379
01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:56.320
It's fire.
1380
01:16:56.320 --> 01:16:57.840
It's just so delicious.
1381
01:16:58.360 --> 01:17:01.360
And, you know, just looking at some of those ingredients of what we're coming
1382
01:17:01.360 --> 01:17:03.400
at typical, you know, breakfast sandwich.
1383
01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:08.840
And we could instead of the typical, highly refined, whatever kind of bread,
1384
01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:10.800
you could use some sourdough, right?
1385
01:17:11.120 --> 01:17:15.200
And there are multiple studies of affirming benefits of sourdough bread, by the way.
1386
01:17:15.200 --> 01:17:16.760
And there was a time I was just like, no bread.
1387
01:17:17.040 --> 01:17:17.800
No bread, I do.
1388
01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:18.760
It's not about no bread.
1389
01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:21.200
Because sometimes again, we go all or nothing.
1390
01:17:21.280 --> 01:17:25.840
And working at a university for so many years, I got to work with people
1391
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:27.200
from all over the world.
1392
01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:34.960
I mean, from France, from Korea, from Uganda, from, you know, Brazil,
1393
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:36.000
like the list goes on and on.
1394
01:17:36.480 --> 01:17:41.360
And I started asking everybody about fermented foods in their diet.
1395
01:17:41.400 --> 01:17:44.360
And every culture had cultured foods.
1396
01:17:44.440 --> 01:17:45.240
Absolutely.
1397
01:17:45.240 --> 01:17:45.960
Everyone.
1398
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:47.920
And some of them were fermented breads.
1399
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:51.360
Yeah, like Ethiopia, right?
1400
01:17:51.360 --> 01:17:53.080
There's like this fermented bread, right?
1401
01:17:53.080 --> 01:17:55.760
And I'm just like, oh, wait, but bread is bad.
1402
01:17:56.160 --> 01:18:00.440
You know, like because of my teaching and then my further education that I was choosing
1403
01:18:00.440 --> 01:18:04.240
to have, I just like exited out instead of looking at the potential benefits.
1404
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:10.320
And so that this could be, you know, eggs are one of those foods that have gone
1405
01:18:10.320 --> 01:18:11.320
in and out of favor.
1406
01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:13.080
Nutrition for so long.
1407
01:18:13.400 --> 01:18:18.400
But humans have been eating eggs for tens of thousands, for thousands and thousands
1408
01:18:18.400 --> 01:18:18.920
of years.
1409
01:18:19.400 --> 01:18:24.120
And the reason I'm bringing this up is because it has a remarkable concentration
1410
01:18:24.120 --> 01:18:26.520
of certain nutrients that are very hard to find for you.
1411
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:26.920
Yes.
1412
01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:29.280
Like cooling, cooling for your liver, right?
1413
01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:32.000
And, you know, I can go on and on.
1414
01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:35.600
Also again, that protein content is very, very digestible.
1415
01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:38.120
That egg, the egg white protein part of that of the egg.
1416
01:18:38.440 --> 01:18:39.680
And by the way, they come together.
1417
01:18:40.080 --> 01:18:46.680
So, you know, but humans, you know, and so, you know, just getting some, and we just went
1418
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:48.680
through weird egg epidemic reasons.
1419
01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:49.680
I know the egg shortage.
1420
01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:51.760
You know, like there's, what is that about?
1421
01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:57.160
You know, but just again, minding certain things like that, being mindful of the oils
1422
01:18:57.160 --> 01:19:00.880
that you're cooking in, these oils are one of the cultural contagions.
1423
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:06.520
And fun enough, there's a lot of debate going on about these oils and quote vegetable oil.
1424
01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:12.000
And I've been talking about this for 15 years now, maybe longer.
1425
01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:16.640
But some of my incredible friends and colleagues, one of them is Dr. K. Shenhan.
1426
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:20.520
She's really the foremost authority on quote vegetable oils.
1427
01:19:21.120 --> 01:19:24.920
And she's like, it's not the fact, and there is data affirming, like they could be helpful.
1428
01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:29.320
But there's also data affirming that they are very, very toxic.
1429
01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:34.680
And you, anybody could just go to Dr. Google or go to YouTube and just look at how
1430
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:41.960
our vegetable oils made, house canola oil made, and just marvel in all of the toxic chemicals
1431
01:19:41.960 --> 01:19:46.520
that are used to try to turn that canola plant or corn into this oil.
1432
01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:48.440
It is ungodly.
1433
01:19:48.440 --> 01:19:49.440
You'll never want to use it.
1434
01:19:49.440 --> 01:19:56.000
It's just the deodorizing agents, you know, the solvents, you know, just the fact of
1435
01:19:56.000 --> 01:20:00.640
like what she shared was that essentially it's not the end, it's not just looking at
1436
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:05.160
the end product, it's understanding that the oxidation is happening in the process of
1437
01:20:05.160 --> 01:20:06.160
it.
1438
01:20:06.160 --> 01:20:09.640
And so you're consuming essentially oxidation in a bottle once it gets to you.
1439
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:10.640
Yeah.
1440
01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:14.360
And we know that oxidation is one of those core components if we're talking about longevity
1441
01:20:14.360 --> 01:20:18.880
and in accelerating our aging, that oxidation is a big one of the, one of the ingredients
1442
01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:19.880
of that.
1443
01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:23.000
And so you don't want that to be an ingredient of your food if you can avoid it.
1444
01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:27.360
Now again, it's okay if you come across it, if it didn't, whatever, but in so many
1445
01:20:27.360 --> 01:20:29.160
restaurants are taking it out now.
1446
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:30.520
Finally.
1447
01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:34.440
And when I was in college talking to, you know, clients that I was working with, I used
1448
01:20:34.440 --> 01:20:39.160
to carry in my book bag like the cereal bar that I used to think was super healthy, this
1449
01:20:39.160 --> 01:20:45.360
Kellogg cereal bar and had a vegetable oil, like partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.
1450
01:20:45.360 --> 01:20:49.240
And then I showed this article that I came across where it was getting banned from restaurants
1451
01:20:49.240 --> 01:20:50.240
in New York.
1452
01:20:50.240 --> 01:20:54.960
Again, this is like 15, 20 years ago, right?
1453
01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:59.360
And so I was sharing this, I'm just like, this is in everything.
1454
01:20:59.360 --> 01:21:02.760
And for it to be banned and now different restaurants are taking it out as well, you
1455
01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:05.440
know, just changing your cooking oil, upgrading that.
1456
01:21:05.440 --> 01:21:06.440
What if humans use the longest?
1457
01:21:06.440 --> 01:21:08.640
This will give me to another food that I love.
1458
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:09.640
Okay.
1459
01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:10.640
I'm sure this.
1460
01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:11.640
All right.
1461
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:12.640
Olive oil.
1462
01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:13.640
Yeah.
1463
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:15.120
Thousands of years of use.
1464
01:21:15.120 --> 01:21:17.600
It's olives and you press the oil out.
1465
01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:22.040
That's what extra virgin olive oil is, you know, cold, fresh, yeah.
1466
01:21:22.040 --> 01:21:26.480
Well, you can't average extra virgin olive oil and researchers at Auburn actually discovered
1467
01:21:26.480 --> 01:21:27.640
this.
1468
01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:32.640
This has this remarkable ability to potentially heal the blood brain barrier.
1469
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:33.640
All right.
1470
01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:39.120
So what they affirm was that this oil has the ability to reduce neuroinflammation.
1471
01:21:39.120 --> 01:21:42.480
So inflammation in the brain, why does this matter?
1472
01:21:42.480 --> 01:21:46.640
This might be as far as like specific physical ailments.
1473
01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:51.120
This might be the biggest concern that nobody knows about.
1474
01:21:51.120 --> 01:21:57.360
So researchers at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine found that individuals who had
1475
01:21:57.360 --> 01:22:02.240
higher amounts of visceral belly fat had higher rates of inflammation in their brain.
1476
01:22:02.240 --> 01:22:06.120
And people with higher inflammation in their brain had higher amounts of visceral belly
1477
01:22:06.120 --> 01:22:07.120
fat occur.
1478
01:22:07.120 --> 01:22:10.920
And they didn't know where like which one was causing which, but they saw that they
1479
01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:12.600
are directly connected.
1480
01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:13.600
Okay.
1481
01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:17.880
And we know that this has a lot to do with like, and the thing is like, how do you know
1482
01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:19.440
if you have brain inflammation?
1483
01:22:19.440 --> 01:22:24.120
Your brain is very protective, well, I don't have an egg or whatever.
1484
01:22:24.120 --> 01:22:27.680
There's no, your brain doesn't even have pain receptors, by the way.
1485
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:32.000
So when you find out there's a problem, it's oftentimes way too late.
1486
01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:35.760
And I'm saying that to say that if we're carrying around a lot of excessive fat, chances
1487
01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:40.600
are your brain is inflamed, olive oil has the potential to help to put that fire out.
1488
01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:41.600
That's incredible.
1489
01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:42.600
Incredible.
1490
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:43.760
That is incredible.
1491
01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:47.240
And help to heal the blood brain barrier because how the brain gets inflamed is stuff is
1492
01:22:47.240 --> 01:22:48.840
breaking that barrier down.
1493
01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:50.880
Stuff is getting into your brain that shouldn't be there.
1494
01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:57.520
And this, the number one culprit is this absurd, horrendous amount of sugar that's getting
1495
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:00.200
delivered to our brains that we never evolved having.
1496
01:23:00.200 --> 01:23:04.320
And our brain has more gates for sugar than anywhere else because through our evolution,
1497
01:23:04.320 --> 01:23:07.680
if we came across something that was dense and sugar, we're gobbling it all up.
1498
01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:09.400
But now it's like ample.
1499
01:23:09.400 --> 01:23:14.080
And so what's happening is insulin resistance taking place in the brain, right?
1500
01:23:14.080 --> 01:23:15.080
Parkinson's, Alzheimer's.
1501
01:23:15.080 --> 01:23:20.440
I'm right now talking to the leading expert in the world on Parkinson's on Friday.
1502
01:23:20.440 --> 01:23:24.120
And just like how sugar is just tearing people's brains up as well.
1503
01:23:24.120 --> 01:23:29.000
So again, extra virgin, oil can't tolerate extra virgin olive oils one, so eggs, I mentioned
1504
01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:30.000
sourdough.
1505
01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:31.000
I think that's.
1506
01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:32.000
Those are great.
1507
01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:33.000
These staples.
1508
01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:36.600
But again, you're going back to foods that are staples and basics, right?
1509
01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:40.160
When we went back to Denmark where I'm from, where my mom's from, the waitress that we
1510
01:23:40.160 --> 01:23:44.120
had at a restaurant, she's like, what is with your fascination with not eating bread
1511
01:23:44.120 --> 01:23:45.120
over there?
1512
01:23:45.120 --> 01:23:50.280
We bread for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, everyone's tall, thin, fit.
1513
01:23:50.280 --> 01:23:51.280
So yeah, it's not the bread.
1514
01:23:51.280 --> 01:23:53.000
It's what we put into it.
1515
01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:54.880
And the sugar thing too, right?
1516
01:23:54.880 --> 01:24:00.160
I wish people would make the connection between insulin resistance, everything's connected
1517
01:24:00.160 --> 01:24:01.160
in the body, right?
1518
01:24:01.160 --> 01:24:04.680
So if one part of your body is being compromised is going to impact the other, when we think
1519
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:10.480
about our gut microbiome, our heart and our brain, things that play such a massive role
1520
01:24:10.480 --> 01:24:11.480
with our health.
1521
01:24:11.480 --> 01:24:13.080
But we don't necessarily feel them.
1522
01:24:13.080 --> 01:24:15.880
And if doctors look at you and assume that you're healthy, they're not checking anything
1523
01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:16.880
for them.
1524
01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:21.240
So just take ownership of what you're consuming and to bring this full circle to how we
1525
01:24:21.240 --> 01:24:25.400
started is whatever foods that you're going to go out and buy after this episode, look
1526
01:24:25.400 --> 01:24:27.200
at the back of the ingredients, right?
1527
01:24:27.200 --> 01:24:31.280
If you understand the ingredients that go into it, then your body will, too.
1528
01:24:31.280 --> 01:24:32.280
Yeah.
1529
01:24:32.280 --> 01:24:34.280
Any more foods that don't have ingredients?
1530
01:24:34.280 --> 01:24:35.280
No, ingredient labels.
1531
01:24:35.280 --> 01:24:36.280
So about that.
1532
01:24:36.280 --> 01:24:37.280
Right?
1533
01:24:37.280 --> 01:24:38.280
Yeah.
1534
01:24:38.280 --> 01:24:39.280
All right.
1535
01:24:39.280 --> 01:24:40.280
Okay.
1536
01:24:40.280 --> 01:24:41.280
Okay.
1537
01:24:41.280 --> 01:24:42.280
Yes.
1538
01:24:42.280 --> 01:24:46.280
So I'm very grateful to say, you know, even getting closer to your body, you know, you're
1539
01:24:46.280 --> 01:24:48.280
getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to
1540
01:24:48.280 --> 01:24:49.280
your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're
1541
01:24:49.280 --> 01:24:50.280
getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to
1542
01:24:50.280 --> 01:24:51.280
your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're
1543
01:24:51.280 --> 01:24:52.280
getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to
1544
01:24:52.280 --> 01:24:53.280
your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're
1545
01:24:53.280 --> 01:24:54.280
getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to
1546
01:24:54.280 --> 01:24:55.280
your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're
1547
01:24:55.280 --> 01:25:02.280
getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to
1548
01:25:02.280 --> 01:25:09.280
your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're
1549
01:25:09.280 --> 01:25:10.280
getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your
1550
01:25:10.280 --> 01:25:11.280
body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting
1551
01:25:11.280 --> 01:25:12.280
closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body,
1552
01:25:12.280 --> 01:25:13.280
you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer
1553
01:25:13.280 --> 01:25:14.280
to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're
1554
01:25:14.280 --> 01:25:15.280
getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to
1555
01:25:15.280 --> 01:25:16.280
your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting
1556
01:25:16.280 --> 01:25:22.280
closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body,
1557
01:25:22.280 --> 01:25:23.280
you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to
1558
01:25:23.280 --> 01:25:30.280
your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer
1559
01:25:30.280 --> 01:25:37.280
to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body,
1560
01:25:37.280 --> 01:25:43.280
you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body,
1561
01:25:43.280 --> 01:25:48.280
you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body,
1562
01:25:48.280 --> 01:25:53.280
you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body,
1563
01:25:53.280 --> 01:25:58.280
you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body,
1564
01:25:58.280 --> 01:26:03.280
you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body,
1565
01:26:03.280 --> 01:26:08.280
you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body, you're getting closer to your body,
1566
01:26:08.280 --> 01:26:14.280
you're getting noticeable, not noticeable, notable, life disrupting, difficult symptoms that they're dealing with.
1567
01:26:14.280 --> 01:26:20.280
Why would this culture not have this same issue? And it's because of our environment, right?
1568
01:26:20.280 --> 01:26:26.280
With that said, food is a big part of our environment, and obviously something to help us, maybe not so obvious,
1569
01:26:26.280 --> 01:26:31.280
with this transition, it's not as much about what to eat, it's what not to eat.
1570
01:26:31.280 --> 01:26:35.280
And when you're having difficulties with your hormones and with your energy,
1571
01:26:35.280 --> 01:26:38.280
in our culture, we have this tendency to lean more towards sugar,
1572
01:26:38.280 --> 01:26:45.280
and you know, just to make us feel better. And why that is is that we get a little bit like a serotonin uptake,
1573
01:26:45.280 --> 01:26:49.280
like it just makes us feel good, you know, when we're having some sugar temporarily.
1574
01:26:49.280 --> 01:26:55.280
And so being mindful of that, and leaning more towards, as Dr. Quebecer shared with me,
1575
01:26:55.280 --> 01:26:59.280
leaning more towards really high quality fats, nourishing fats,
1576
01:26:59.280 --> 01:27:06.280
and making sure, in particular, that you're getting ample amounts of omega-3 fatty acids.
1577
01:27:06.280 --> 01:27:10.280
Like this is, this is critical top tier, like top three things.
1578
01:27:10.280 --> 01:27:11.280
U-P-U-D-H-A.
1579
01:27:11.280 --> 01:27:12.280
Yeah.
1580
01:27:12.280 --> 01:27:13.280
Yeah.
1581
01:27:13.280 --> 01:27:19.280
So why this is, and one really fascinating study was looking at, because with menopause,
1582
01:27:19.280 --> 01:27:25.280
I know this is experience as a body thing, so much of it has to do with what your brain is doing.
1583
01:27:25.280 --> 01:27:26.280
Okay.
1584
01:27:26.280 --> 01:27:27.280
Absolutely.
1585
01:27:27.280 --> 01:27:31.280
And so this really interesting study found, and I cited this in the book as well,
1586
01:27:31.280 --> 01:27:37.280
found that individuals who had the lowest intake of omega-3's DHA and EPA had the highest rate of brain shrinkage.
1587
01:27:37.280 --> 01:27:38.280
Wow.
1588
01:27:38.280 --> 01:27:41.280
They were losing value of their brain.
1589
01:27:41.280 --> 01:27:45.280
And so it is, like that should be scary. That should be scary.
1590
01:27:45.280 --> 01:27:50.280
When I was working as a nutritionist early on, I was telling all my clients to like,
1591
01:27:50.280 --> 01:27:53.280
there was like two things I really, the majority of people I'd recommend,
1592
01:27:53.280 --> 01:27:56.280
one was magnesium, the other was omega-3's.
1593
01:27:56.280 --> 01:28:00.280
But I was telling them, you know, get your flaxseed oil, get your hemp oil,
1594
01:28:00.280 --> 01:28:04.280
get your, you know, flaxseeds, chia seeds, but that's ALA.
1595
01:28:04.280 --> 01:28:05.280
Yeah.
1596
01:28:05.280 --> 01:28:08.280
This is something that wasn't taught in my expensive university education.
1597
01:28:08.280 --> 01:28:12.280
There's multiple forms of all this stuff we put a small label over.
1598
01:28:12.280 --> 01:28:15.280
There's multiple forms of vitamin C. There's multiple forms of B12.
1599
01:28:15.280 --> 01:28:16.280
There's multiple forms of calcium.
1600
01:28:16.280 --> 01:28:18.280
I'm going on and on.
1601
01:28:18.280 --> 01:28:22.280
When you take that multi, which I'm not saying you shouldn't, what are you getting?
1602
01:28:22.280 --> 01:28:25.280
Are you getting the version of that thing that your body is looking for?
1603
01:28:25.280 --> 01:28:28.280
We could find that in food more readily.
1604
01:28:28.280 --> 01:28:35.280
But my point being ALA is more of an energy substrate or energy potential
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01:28:35.280 --> 01:28:36.280
to run processes in the body.
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01:28:36.280 --> 01:28:37.280
ALA is awesome.
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01:28:37.280 --> 01:28:41.280
That's the plant version of these omega-3's DHA.
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01:28:41.280 --> 01:28:46.280
Ducasa hexanolic acid and EPA, a pentanolic weight.
1609
01:28:46.280 --> 01:28:47.280
What is EPA?
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01:28:47.280 --> 01:28:49.280
Ducasa has been years.
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01:28:49.280 --> 01:28:53.280
Ducasa hexanolic acid and Ecosa pentanolic acid.
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01:28:53.280 --> 01:28:54.280
Boy.
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01:28:54.280 --> 01:28:55.280
Yes.
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01:28:55.280 --> 01:29:00.280
These are animal derived versions of these nutrients generally.
1615
01:29:00.280 --> 01:29:01.280
Equeous.
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01:29:01.280 --> 01:29:02.280
Equeous.
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01:29:02.280 --> 01:29:06.280
The difference is ALA, again, processes.
1618
01:29:06.280 --> 01:29:10.280
EPA DHA can be used as structural fats for the body.
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01:29:10.280 --> 01:29:15.280
The structural fats for your brain can literally use it to make your brain cells
1620
01:29:15.280 --> 01:29:20.280
for signal transduction so your brain cells can talk to each other, which is kind of important.
1621
01:29:20.280 --> 01:29:21.280
ALA can't do that.
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01:29:21.280 --> 01:29:27.280
This is why DHA, because when I talked about losing brain value, we're talking about losing connections.
1623
01:29:27.280 --> 01:29:32.280
That's what creates the volume of the brain is more connection to the plasticity of the brain.
1624
01:29:32.280 --> 01:29:35.280
It's not from generating new neurons per se.
1625
01:29:35.280 --> 01:29:38.280
We know that that can happen in certain parts of the brain, the hippocampus.
1626
01:29:38.280 --> 01:29:41.280
But overall, it's not something that's really seen in the data yet.
1627
01:29:41.280 --> 01:29:44.280
We know that the brain grows in volume due to the connections.
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01:29:44.280 --> 01:29:48.280
And you lose those connections when you don't get enough DHA and EPA.
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01:29:48.280 --> 01:29:49.280
Please.
1630
01:29:49.280 --> 01:29:51.280
So where are we going to find this?
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01:29:51.280 --> 01:29:52.280
Really cool study.
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01:29:52.280 --> 01:29:56.280
Journal neurology found that one seafood meal per week.
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01:29:56.280 --> 01:30:01.280
One seafood meal per week dramatically increases cognitive performance.
1634
01:30:01.280 --> 01:30:03.280
So we know that fatty fish.
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01:30:03.280 --> 01:30:09.280
We know that there's various forms of shellfish and shrimp and things like that.
1636
01:30:09.280 --> 01:30:11.280
By the way, I'm going to give a vegan option.
1637
01:30:11.280 --> 01:30:12.280
Thank you.
1638
01:30:12.280 --> 01:30:13.280
Absolutely.
1639
01:30:13.280 --> 01:30:18.280
But this is where humans have been getting it throughout our evolution predominantly.
1640
01:30:18.280 --> 01:30:22.280
But it's not just seafood, because some populations weren't around the sea.
1641
01:30:22.280 --> 01:30:23.280
Right.
1642
01:30:23.280 --> 01:30:25.280
Let's start this on red meat now, for right?
1643
01:30:25.280 --> 01:30:26.280
Yes.
1644
01:30:26.280 --> 01:30:27.280
So like bison.
1645
01:30:27.280 --> 01:30:29.280
I mean, it's going to have a higher ratio of that.
1646
01:30:29.280 --> 01:30:33.280
But of course, beef, eggs, another source.
1647
01:30:33.280 --> 01:30:38.280
So yeah, it's packaged in animal foods predominantly now.
1648
01:30:38.280 --> 01:30:41.280
Okay, let's get to the real.
1649
01:30:41.280 --> 01:30:45.280
So talking with the premier scientist, neuroscientist, who's looking at the brain and seeing the impact.
1650
01:30:45.280 --> 01:30:47.280
So I'm not just, this isn't just hearsay.
1651
01:30:47.280 --> 01:30:49.280
Dr. Lisa Moscone.
1652
01:30:49.280 --> 01:30:56.280
She said that it's not the fish that is that's the highest source of omega-3s.
1653
01:30:56.280 --> 01:30:58.280
Of DHA and EPA.
1654
01:30:58.280 --> 01:31:00.280
It's the fish eggs.
1655
01:31:00.280 --> 01:31:01.280
Got it.
1656
01:31:01.280 --> 01:31:02.280
Caviar.
1657
01:31:02.280 --> 01:31:03.280
Caviar, salmon roll.
1658
01:31:03.280 --> 01:31:04.280
Right.
1659
01:31:04.280 --> 01:31:09.280
She's just like, this could be 20, 50 times as much.
1660
01:31:09.280 --> 01:31:11.280
And this is why they're so prized.
1661
01:31:11.280 --> 01:31:12.280
They're so expensive.
1662
01:31:12.280 --> 01:31:13.280
Right.
1663
01:31:13.280 --> 01:31:15.280
Because of this impact on the brain.
1664
01:31:15.280 --> 01:31:17.280
Like somebody figured this out a long time ago.
1665
01:31:17.280 --> 01:31:21.280
So I was super weirded out by that coming from where I come from.
1666
01:31:21.280 --> 01:31:24.280
But there's great ways you could fit stuff like that in.
1667
01:31:24.280 --> 01:31:26.280
There's supplements, things like that.
1668
01:31:26.280 --> 01:31:27.280
It's probably cheaper than supplement.
1669
01:31:27.280 --> 01:31:28.280
Like a high quality supplement, right?
1670
01:31:28.280 --> 01:31:29.280
Absolutely.
1671
01:31:29.280 --> 01:31:30.280
Yeah.
1672
01:31:30.280 --> 01:31:32.280
Salmon roll is out there on the streets.
1673
01:31:32.280 --> 01:31:34.280
But again, you don't want to get on the streets.
1674
01:31:34.280 --> 01:31:35.280
Like the reputable source.
1675
01:31:35.280 --> 01:31:40.280
But then a fish oil of all the stuff that we're talking about, fish oil has the most data on it.
1676
01:31:40.280 --> 01:31:41.280
It does.
1677
01:31:41.280 --> 01:31:42.280
It does.
1678
01:31:42.280 --> 01:31:46.280
For me, it's a really sketchy industry right now, in particular.
1679
01:31:46.280 --> 01:31:49.280
But fish oil has the most studies affirming this.
1680
01:31:49.280 --> 01:31:51.280
Creel oil.
1681
01:31:51.280 --> 01:31:58.080
Creel might be might be recommended the most because it's a little, it helps with if our ethics
1682
01:31:58.080 --> 01:31:59.080
a little bit more.
1683
01:31:59.080 --> 01:32:01.280
It's a microscopic shrimp.
1684
01:32:01.280 --> 01:32:03.280
Microsynthesis microscopic.
1685
01:32:03.280 --> 01:32:09.280
And sometimes again, we're doing this based on our ethics and what we want to do for the
1686
01:32:09.280 --> 01:32:12.280
planet and for the animal kingdom.
1687
01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:16.080
If we're being honest, like if you lick the air, you're like probably killing more sentient
1688
01:32:16.080 --> 01:32:21.120
beings that you know, like, you know, like a kid, it's a microscopic shrimp.
1689
01:32:21.120 --> 01:32:23.120
It's very rich in astazentin.
1690
01:32:23.120 --> 01:32:24.120
Okay.
1691
01:32:24.120 --> 01:32:28.200
And this very powerful antioxidant is protective of those omega-3s.
1692
01:32:28.200 --> 01:32:29.200
Right.
1693
01:32:29.200 --> 01:32:33.840
And so the studies on Creel oil are remarkable, better than fish oil.
1694
01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:37.360
If anything, again, I already talked about our importance is for your brain.
1695
01:32:37.360 --> 01:32:41.200
And if we're talking about this menopause conversation, if you're taking a vegan protocol,
1696
01:32:41.200 --> 01:32:45.680
you absolutely must, after this recording is done, after you've finished listening to
1697
01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:50.040
this, get yourself an algae oil, like yesterday.
1698
01:32:50.040 --> 01:32:51.560
Get an algae oil.
1699
01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:55.040
We know that the omega-3s that we're looking for at DHA and EPA are there.
1700
01:32:55.040 --> 01:33:00.880
Well, we don't have right now is a lot of clinical data to affirm the assimilation connection
1701
01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:01.880
with the human body.
1702
01:33:01.880 --> 01:33:06.640
So I'm not saying that it's there or not there as far as like the benefits don't chance
1703
01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:07.640
it.
1704
01:33:07.640 --> 01:33:08.640
We don't want to wait around.
1705
01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:09.640
Exactly.
1706
01:33:09.640 --> 01:33:11.560
We don't want algae oil like yesterday, all right.
1707
01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:12.560
We all need these omega-3s.
1708
01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:16.600
We need to be proactive in this and our brains are at stake.
1709
01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:21.200
And also the evolution of our hormones are heavily dependent on these fats.
1710
01:33:21.200 --> 01:33:22.200
You got it.
1711
01:33:22.200 --> 01:33:23.200
I think we're all deficient.
1712
01:33:23.200 --> 01:33:26.320
And look for wild sources, for sure.
1713
01:33:26.320 --> 01:33:28.560
And Sonya, thank you for that question.
1714
01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:32.600
I think it's something that we all need, so thanks for closing in on that.
1715
01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:34.080
Thank you for being here today.
1716
01:33:34.080 --> 01:33:35.080
It's my pleasure.
1717
01:33:35.080 --> 01:33:36.080
I'm so grateful for you.
1718
01:33:36.080 --> 01:33:40.240
I had lost your rapid-fire questions if you could leave our listeners with one takeaway
1719
01:33:40.240 --> 01:33:43.640
that you're most excited about for the future and what would it be?
1720
01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:50.400
Getting people hanging out together, you know, AI is here, AI is listening right now.
1721
01:33:50.400 --> 01:33:53.840
Like the AI, I don't know what they're with AI is thinking.
1722
01:33:53.840 --> 01:34:00.600
But the thing is our lives as AI is integrating itself more and more into our culture and
1723
01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:05.120
more things that humans have been doing that AI is going to be doing.
1724
01:34:05.120 --> 01:34:06.600
And it's just, it is what it is.
1725
01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:08.960
There's no stopping it, even if I might want to.
1726
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:14.880
What that's going to do is lead more time for us to do something.
1727
01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:19.280
And as if things are going now, that's going to be more time for people to be in that meta
1728
01:34:19.280 --> 01:34:23.840
universe online and jacked into the matrix, honestly.
1729
01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:27.680
And I get conjured up ideas right now as I'm sitting here, my son is in the other room
1730
01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:33.840
of that movie Ready Player One, right, where people like are getting on virtual to experience
1731
01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:37.960
life and experience, whatever you can imagine, really, anything.
1732
01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:41.280
And that end of itself is very alluring.
1733
01:34:41.280 --> 01:34:45.600
But what we know about humans is that again, we need each other.
1734
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:50.480
And so my, my proposition for everybody is to make it your mandate to be more human
1735
01:34:50.480 --> 01:34:51.480
than you've ever been.
1736
01:34:51.480 --> 01:34:53.360
All right, that stuff is awesome.
1737
01:34:53.360 --> 01:34:57.800
My family and I, we went and did a virtual like video game, plays whatever it was amazing.
1738
01:34:57.800 --> 01:34:59.400
It was awesome.
1739
01:34:59.480 --> 01:35:04.960
We don't want to live there because chances are as things have been affirmed to us now,
1740
01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:07.520
that is going to be a detriment to your health.
1741
01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:12.400
If that is a majority of what you're doing and where you live, get offline more, create,
1742
01:35:12.400 --> 01:35:20.280
connect, be again as human as possible, move your body, explore, have fun, see the things,
1743
01:35:20.280 --> 01:35:23.280
you know, go outside of your environment as much as you can.
1744
01:35:23.280 --> 01:35:26.760
And this is coming from somebody who didn't get on the plane to us 25 was the first time
1745
01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:28.360
I got on the plane.
1746
01:35:28.360 --> 01:35:32.160
And because I had no aspirations of leaving, you know, the same Louis Hood that I lived
1747
01:35:32.160 --> 01:35:36.720
it, you know, but get outside of your environment, experience life.
1748
01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:40.120
This is our chance to be more human, to create, to connect.
1749
01:35:40.120 --> 01:35:41.800
We're going to need each other.
1750
01:35:41.800 --> 01:35:45.720
I don't know how quickly this is going to happen, but it's going to come a time in the
1751
01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:52.600
near future where we're up against some insurmountable odds from technology and us in some way.
1752
01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:58.040
I'm not trying to conjure up a terminator scenario, but we're going to need to band together.
1753
01:35:58.040 --> 01:36:02.240
We should start that process now, love each other, respect each other, spend time together
1754
01:36:02.240 --> 01:36:03.240
in the real world.
1755
01:36:03.240 --> 01:36:07.480
So that encompasses a lot more than two things, I think.
1756
01:36:07.480 --> 01:36:10.600
You were such a model of that, everything from your content to the guests that you have
1757
01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:14.720
on, to your cookbook, to you don't have eat smarter or sleep smarter, make sure you
1758
01:36:14.720 --> 01:36:15.720
go and get that.
1759
01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:17.120
And I couldn't agree more.
1760
01:36:17.120 --> 01:36:20.640
It's connection, connection to yourself, to others, to your food, to your environment,
1761
01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:21.640
to your loved ones.
1762
01:36:21.640 --> 01:36:22.640
Thank you for modeling that today.
1763
01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:23.640
Thank you so much.
1764
01:36:23.640 --> 01:36:25.240
Of course, it's my honor, thank you.