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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready, let's get it all. How's it going, everybody, Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day Monday through Friday, now Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, sixth Eastern. Well, it's Tuesday here on this program, and you know that means we have so much to talk about here today, at the least of which is last night's Monday Night Raw. We have a little over. Well, we got two weeks until the Helen a Cell Show, and we got matches for Helen a Cell, so you talk about that to the Raw show last night and more. We've also got n x T two point oh Tonight Tomorrow is a w Dynamite. Tomorrow's the go home Dynamite for the Double or Nothing Show, which is coming up this weekend. Obviously there's a rampage on Friday, and if you are one of those folks go to Las Vegas for Double or Nothing weekend, well be in the building at about two o'clock on Friday, because the show is gonna start at two thirty Pacific five thirty eastern, and uh, that looks to be the plan, but they're gonna they're gonna go at that point one way or the other. I suppose you can go live to tape or whatever. But to thirty Pacific five thirty eastern is when the show is going to start on Friday. We'll give you the lineup for all of these shows. There's a lot coming up, so we'll talk about that here today on the show. Thankfully, we got nothing regarding Sasha and Naomi, so that's your update for the day. We got ratings to talk about here of course, our weekly raw report, and uh plenty more. If you'd like to contact us here today four to five seven eight zero seven five six six. That is the text message line four to five seven eight zero seven six six Brian at Wrestling Observer dot com is the email address at Brian Alvarez on at Twitter. And the update on land Storm is he is feeling almost back to normal after his battle with COVID, which means it too Pacific five eastern today. We will be doing our figure four daily with land Storm only for subscribers Wrestling Observer dot com or Video dot at Online dot com. Lance returns in a couple of hours. Mike smber vvs here after the break back at the moment Observer Live sometimes back in the show. Brian Over is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike Simber b B also of Wrestling Observer dot com. Well, we've got a lot of big shows coming up, everybody. Our favorite show at x T two point oh takes place tonight. The itamly takes place on on Wednesday, Rampage on Friday. We actually have matches for next week's raw already. But here's what we got coming up everyone. Tonight on n x T two point oh, braun Breaker is going to be facing Duke Hudson, who's six five, in a non title match. Mandy Rose will be facing Indie Heartwell in a non titled match. Pretty Deadly Only facing Roderick Strong and David Kemp in a non titled match. These titles are very prestigious, Dress and No Fe and Malika Blade versus Stacks and two dimes, which, by the way, I was alerted yesterday. The two dimes is also I guess a term for like a life sentence in prison two dimes twenty years. It's not a life sentence. Well, life sentence is normally twenty years. That's why you can get consecutive life sentences. What are you talking about? Where have you been? Bro It depends on if you anyway, this guy ain't even twenty, so I'm not sure how even got two times unless he committed some horrible crime when he was zero. Maybe it's because he's twenty. That's how you had ten plus ten two twenty years old? Two times? What's happening? Elbow fire and electro Lopez and Wesley versus Shunga? He was born in prison? This guy says, oh, man, what how long is a life sentence? It's like eighty years or sixty years or something. Life sentence any type of imprisonment where defendant is required to remain in prison for all of their natural life or until parole. So how long is a life sentence? Well, in most of the United States, a life sentence means a person in prison for fifteen years with the chance of parole. So there you go, soft parole boards. I guess letting people out early, raising Arizona or something like that. But there are multiple types of life imprisonment. There's uh fifteen years to life twenty five years to life, life with mercy, indeterminate life sentences, life without the possibility of parole, life without mercy, etcetera, etcetera. But the point is without mercy. Yeah, can you imagine that? Damn? I should have had funt Leroy read those to life though, that's the one that sounds most familiar. So we really don't know what what two times what his name is all about. I think he's got twenty cents to his name, but other people have suggested other things. And I mean, we don't really know what stax means either. When he gets cut in three months, I guess one we'll find that out. I mean, maybe he's really into paper this stacks. Maybe he works at a print shop. I don't know. We do anything about these two guys. Maybe he likes playing Djanga Dynamo it. On Wednesday, we have FTR versus Rapunk device for the Ring of Honor World Take Team Titles. So they got titles on the line on this show, brother, we got some O Joe Kylo Reiley Men's Tournaments Semifinal, Britt Baker, Tony Storm Women's Tournament Semifinal, Ward Lows Shan Spears with m JF is the referee, Jungle Boys, Swerve Strickland and Ricky Starks in a three way see him Punk and Hangman Page will have a confrontation and just added thunder Rosa will be interviewed by Tony Hivanni. Oh no, it never works out well. It's becoming a parody now, this this whole deal with her and it's this has not been the title reign that I would have expected that thunder Rosa would have like, try to turn this one around. I don't know if an interview segment with Tony Hivoni is going to do it, because you know Nyla Rose that one didn't work out too well. And ye, these things just don't work out well. And of course Raw next week if you do not see Raw, will do the Raw report after the break. But it was originally going to be Oscar versus Bianca bell Air at Helen his Cell because Oscar had beaten Becky Lynch last week. But Becky got put into another match this week where if she won she would be added to the match. So she won. Now it's a three way, so next week on the go Home Raw you get to see the match. There was originally the championship match at Helena's Cell. It will be Oscar versus Bianca bell Air non title next week and the return to action of Lacey Evans. We're gonna find out one way or the other. I shouldn't say that I expect to find out next week if she has a baby face or if they're actually going hell with Lacey, because it was and you know how these things go. The plan was that she would be a hell. Once everybody heard that, they just were like a ghast. So it's possible the they're gonna go baby face with her, But I guess we'll find out on Monday. Listen. I have no problem long term with going heel with Lacey Evans. At some point you can make some sort of change. But to do all of that, because you know what, you can only do it once. It's like the Cameron Grimes deal. I mean, if that guy would have lost, how many times can he go back to the same story about how he promised his father he would win a title in n x T. I mean you could, but I mean the jump it was strike when the iron is hot. Have her work as a baby face, see how over she can get as a baby face, and then eventually fine, turn her heel, but you can never do this six weeks of vignettes again to get her over as a heroic baby face. So don't miss his up, you idiots. That's my advice nobody ever takes. We returning to Saudi Arabian November, maybe Lacy Evans can work on that show November five, so it'll be just a few weeks before the Survivor series. And uh yeah, this is how they make their money. Sixty million dollars a show, approximately every time they do a show in Saudi Arabia. So if you're wondering why, well stacks and two times, maybe that's why. So they're gonna go there on November five, make their money. And that's the story. Christmas money. I can keep going if you want, Mike, well, what do you want me to add to that? Nothing smacked down two point zero three one million viewers, up eleven percent, largest audience for the show since April fifteen point four five in eighteen forty nine, So that's pretty good number there. Rampage heared at seven Eastern four on the West Coast, four thousand views up. Why am I so itchy? Well, Billy Kidman all of a sudden, Now do you fleas over there? It's it's called it's called I've been crying about this weather new fabric soft. How we were eight days into May and we broke the record for rain. Eight days into the month, we've already broken the record, and then by by day fifteen we had double the rain we ever have in May. I was just ready to just you know what I'm saying. And then all of a sudden, the sun came out the other day and it was like it was I think it hit like sixty eight or seventy and it was like a heat wave. We lost power and then like my allergies exploded. So yeah, that's what's going on. So I apologize for all the itching. Anyway, I think just mold and mildew up there. Most of the year, we don't have mold or mildew. We clean our houses. We don't what you think's going on. We leave everything out in the rain, we bring it inside. Does your help queen your house? Yeah, we actually hire people to clean this house. And if you saw this house, you you'd probably hire more people than we do. So ANYWAYUD viewers for rampage up twenty point six percent point one, five and eighteen best rating since April for the day on cable. Pretty soon this will all be over. They'll be back in their normal time slot. Then we can accurately judge them again. But that's that's the update, and that's the news. Everybody. Have you been watching the any of the New Japan Best of the Super Juniors? I have not watched one second of it. Oh man, I'm lot going on dude, Yeah, well is it good? Are you just gonna ask me the question and not answer did you watch the second? Yes? I've seen almost every match so far. It's been fantastic so far, but a lot of really good wrestling, and I can say, can you believe that? But I can see it like literally like three to three and a half star matches. There's been a couple of outliers that have been really good. That El Desperado is look fantastic being over there. Ace Austin from t NA has really impressed me being over there. He's been in perfectly so you know, I can see the g One starting off with a lot more fire than this has. But for a lot of guys, this is their first time in Japan, that's our first time working for New Japan and with some of the opponents they've been with, But you know, guys like Titan, Clarke, Connors, t J P, all of those guys have stood out. Well. You know, maybe I'll maybe I'll watch some after n x T two point out tonight. Back in a moment, Observer Live bagging the show. Bright Nowder is here Wrestling Observer A Live, Mikes and re Vivi also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Let's get this raw report out of the way. They will take your feedback and maybe your calls in the next segment. I mean, there was good stuff on the show. Yeah, did you watch it? Man? Mett Riddle came out crying. I was crying so sad to have lost that match. And his friend Randy, Randy's been having a rough time last couple of years, back hurts, He's just in pain all the time, and he knew Randy didn't want to let him down. But he let Randy down, and Randy's not here tonight. And he looked in the came and he says, Randy, I just want you to know I love you. Fans are practically crying. It's very heart wrenching. Little segment right here then read to a match or led to a match. Riddle in the Street profits versus Sammy and the USOS because this, I mean, they haven't officially said anything, but the brand extension is it's essentially done. Half of the Raw crew is gonna be on SmackDown Friday. Cody's gonna be there. I think Seth is gonna be there. They're just doing whatever and it makes for a better show, as we mentioned a thousand times. So anyway, uh ended up with the USO's walking out on Sammy Zane. So Sammy's aids all by himself. One on three, Riddle hits him with the arcado and pins him, and they talked about how Riddle has has gotten his revenge. It's like he has. Anyway, he won, so that was nice. We had the Bobby Lashly Almighty Challenge and it was essentially Bobby Lashly coming out. And Lashly is not like a great promo, but the thing is like, he's a he's a legitimate bad dude, and so if the right guy you know, starts you know, saying the right things, he's actually pretty good. So he's challenged m v P to a match, and if the winner gets to choose the stipulations for Lashly versus Omas at Helen his cell. So, you know, m VP is like he doesn't really want to do the match, and so Lashly asks to be scared, and so then m v P launched into this pro bout I'm not scared, I made you, I'm a former blah blah blah, and then Lashly Lashly gets all riled up and he starts I'm not kicking your ass tonight. It's actually turned into a pretty a promo segment. That was the entire first hour of the show. By the way, the whole first hour was those two segments. Then the judgment day comes out and they stand in the ring for eight minutes while they do commercials and backstage interviews with Data Brooke and and this and that Becky Lynch. Then they come back and they talk for another eight minutes, and so after about sixteen minutes, it's finally time for a match. What did they talk about, you ask? You know, they talked about it's because of the fans. It's the fans fault. Eight minutes of it's because of you fans. And it's even funnier because they're supposed to be heels and the fans supposed to hate them. And the first thing that that Damian Priest says is all rise and bro, you look in the background and all the fans rise, they rise, he says, all rise, and they're like, oh, he told us to stand up, and they all stand up and part Damian Priest, let's look around and go. I said, all right, like they're not listening to me, even though they did. These fans, these w w E fans or something else nowadays. So anyway, then a match was h and Damian Priest versus Live moregan in AJ styles. I do like by the way, that my favorite, one of my favorite wrestling names in the last decade was Punishment Martinez, which was the name of Damian Priest before they changed his name, so they can't call him that, but Edge repeatedly refers to him as the Punishment, which is awesome. So anyway, they had a good match and Edge of course interfered multiple times and finally cost Live more than the wind Ripley Pinder. And then the baby Faces get beaten and then they get beaten up you know heat, so they're all killed. We had a miss promo. God help me. We had Jerry Lawler's Kink's Court with Vir Mahan. Vir Mahan is the biggest, scariest, most imitating guy in storyline. So you know, seventy something year old Jerry Lawler goes out there. He just tells a bunch of jokes and makes fun of the guy. And they did do a quick promo with Vier, and then Lawyers was making more jokes and now Vier's like, well, I gott I guess I gotta kill you now, and so the mysterios run out and they clear the ring of vir Mahan. So it looks like we're gonna have multiple handicap matches at the pay per view, because you know in w W, it's like they have forty writers, but they all have the same one idea. So you know that's what happens here. They are one ideas. Uh, handicap matches. I think we're gonna have too at the pay per view. The gimmick where you tease a count out and then the guy flies in the ring and then immediately gets pinned. We've seen that three times in the last two weeks between Ron Smackdow. We saw it again on this show. Alexa Bliss promo Alexa Blisses. I mean, oh my god, this was She's happy to be back. Let's just leave it at that. Then we had Alexibly beating nicky Ash. We've seen this match, you know, we saw it last week. We're seeing it again, the same match she won. Okay, third hour, they did the countdown clock for Cody. Cody is gonna be showing up nine fifty or whatever, so they play his music. He comes down cross going crazy. He's gonna get to the ring. They shut the lights off and he has stand there for eight minutes because we got a commercial Oscar video package Oscar interview. Finally, the Miss does his entrance. I don't know if you guys are aware of this or not, but Cody's first match back was with the Miss and he beat him. Well, here we are. I got an idea. Let's just do it again. So they do the same match we've already seen. Nobody believes the Miss is beating Cody. MS has his good days, and he has his days and aren't so good. This was one of those days. Boring match misses underwater slow motion, and finally Cody goes up top and uh and seth Throns comes down and shoves him off the top and it's a d Q. Yeah. So he beats up Cody. And then earlier Cody had given his weight belt to some youngster and so for heat Seth goes and steals it back from the youngster. And he goes and he just gives It's only one whack, but man, he whacked Cody wax him with this belt and leaves and then Cody's he's limp in, he's selling his leg his backs all messed up, and he goes and he gives a belt back to the kid. What a baby face. Oh my god. So then you know, talking about matches that we've seen before, because you know how many wrestlers do they have between two brands. God, I've seen the same matches over. I'm losing it now, try and reel myself in, reel myself in, Let it go, Come on to go. We see Ezekiel and Chad Gable again. This is the third match we're seeing again here in the last couple of weeks. Last week he was at least good because Kevin owns Is on commentary was awesome. It was the best thing on the show. Well, this week it's w w E. So it's like, well, no one was paying attention to the match because of Kevin Owens. So he can be there, but he can't talk. So he's a ringside, but they don't le him do commentary. These blokes, Oh four minutes, nothing happened in match. I was begging for them to put the headset on Kevin Owens. Kevin Owens like he's off screen, He's like he's lying, he's a liar, like turning up the volumes. I could only hear Kevin Owens because the only interesting thing about this almost in a bad word about this stupid match. And then uh, and then you'll never guess. Actually Ezekiel pinned him. There was multiple interference, but the referee was was fine with it, and then Ezekiel got a cradle for the pin. So then Ezekiel bails. Kevin Owens wants to match with Ezekiel at Helen his cell and what do you do? Cody Rhodes promo where he talked about Helen a Cell. M v P versus lashly this match, my god, m VP has not wrestling a long time, and he's coming off knee surgery and this is one of those matches where you know, Jerry Lawler. They'll Jerry Lawler do anything. But Jerry Lawler is wrestling like multiple matches every week on the Indies, and you know you're thinking, well man, and then there you know, like Rick Flaer's got his match and everybody's worried about it. Dude, these guys went three minutes and I don't think MVP did one move in this whole match. He did one running They Accuza kick in the corner. He did nothing in this match. And finally they're outside and Bobby Lashly and Oh Moss start brawling. The refere he's looking right at on the outside. There brawling outside the ring. This is not a d Q, it's tad. The ref goes, hey nine, Taddy counts out Lashly as he's brawling with Omas, who is not in the match. So m v P wins. He gets to choose the stipulation. It will be a handicap match at Helen his Cell. M v P and Omas against Lashly at Helen his Cell. And then the announcers explained, well, you know they were brawling, but the ref never saw Lashly hit Omas. He only saw Omas. Oh no, it was the other way around. He never saw Omas it Lashly. He only saw lashlet Omas, so it wasn't a d Q. It's like, well, that's fine, but why are you counting the guy out. Lacey Evans returns next week. Then the main event Becky Lynch and Oscar. In real life they got eleven minutes, but in your life they got six because we had a commercial break right in the middle of the match. It's like they did the same thing they always do. Bianca does her entrance. There's literally twenty one minutes left in the show, so they could have had like a really good match, but Bianca enters and then they go to commercial, and then Oscar that's her entrance, and then Becky has to do her entrance and they finally start the match, and then they go immediately to commercial and they come back and there's six minutes left and boom boom boom boom boom. They did the same finish. I was just mocking a moment ago Oscar tries to kick Becky, she kicks Bianca. Becky tries to throw Oscar into the table, but they screw up the spot and Oscar just falls down. Becky jumps in the ring and she wants Oscar to get counted out. Oscar makes in the ring at the last second, but Becky doesn't even hit her with a move. Oscar rolls into the ring and then just lays their dead and Becky pins her. That was a finish, So it is now a three way at Helen his cell And that was Raw. Back in a moment Observer Life. Back in the show, Bright albre is here wrestling Observer Live. Mike simbur Bby also wrestling Observing dot Com. I was chatting with the chat and uh has a lot of dumb things. Okay, but we don't need to invent dumb things, all right. Oscar is not being buried because she lost on Raw. What's happening is this is the booking they do for every single three way unless unless it involves Roman Range because he will never be pinned. But anybody else on the roster if they're in a three way, this is the exact booking that they do. Last week, Becky lost, this week, Oscar lost. Coming up on Monday, I bet you anything, Bianca is going to lose. This is their classic three way booking. Everybody loses to everybody else how many times? How many or somebody said this, we're gonna we're gonna buy the pay per view to find out which of you is the most successful loser, not like which one to use the best. You're all losers. You're all gonna lose. Becky lost, like you're all losing. So which one you can can manage to get out with one win? That's what you're paying for on pay per view? Now? Could they have done the finished better? Well, of course, but you can say that about virtually every single match. It's like when people are going, oh, Cody's being buried, he can't win. He keeps winning by d Q. It's like, do you watch the show or do you just like everybody loses via d Q all the time on every show, it's d Q, d Q, d Q count out, count out, distraction, distraction, distraction, distraction. What you have to look at is it's not, well, you know who's being pushed based on their win loss. Well, if you're looking at it that way, there's one person being pushed three I guess Roman reigns and the use those that's it. No one else in the entire company is being pushed. If you're gonna go buy a win loss record, alright, and even the use os have done non title jobs, So I guess we're down to only Roman Reigns. All right, So how do you determine who is a star if you can't go by win loss. Well, you look at everybody is presented on television, and to try to claim that Cody is not being presented as a star. Yeah, he had a match with the miss with no heat. Okay, anything in the third hour is going to have no heat. You have a main event with Seth Rawlins and by that point the show it's gonna have no heat. Doesn't mean Seth isn't a star. So are they doing a countdown clock for Cody? Are they telling you every week win Cody? Of course, right now, Cody is being pushed as the second biggest star in this company behind Roman Reigns. Now, if you watch the tone, you're like, are you kidding yet? No, I'm not kidding you. That's what's going on. Yeah, it sounds ridiculous when you think about it, but that's the way this company operates. And there's a lot of things to make fun of. But we don't have to invent things to make fun of. There's there's plenty, right. I can't believe people are this bent up about Cody Rhodes. I just well, and remember we had the prediction show about Cody. Remember that prediction show about Cody. It was actually funny because everybody had a prediction, but when they actually had to call in and give it, they didn't have the prediction they had like on the chats or whatever. But everybody was sure that Cody was gonna fail and he was gonna be buried and he's gonna be chasing seven title. That's all we heard before he came in. And I think people were mad at me because I said, dude, they're gonna push this guy. They have to push this guy because they want to get m jfs and Young and whoever else from a W when their contracts come due. Jericho. They're they're gonna want to steal people from a W. So it does them no good to burry Cody. You have to push Cody as a big and oh no, they're not bright. He's gonna chase that seven title. Well, now he's actually being pushes a star. Now we have to invent a narrative where he's getting buried. Well, I think it's not, but Brian, I think there's some long term middle ground there where it's like, yeah, things are gonna have to play out, and how will they feel about him a year from now, two years from now, three years and now, you know, I don't know how long has contracts flood states For three years? We have seen them do stop starts with everybody, with the exception even even of Roman Reigns. But even Roman Reigns has been the one consistent that they've you know, push people, but they've fallen out of favor with anybody. We talked about it with Kevin Owens is somebody you can rebuild the seth Rollins, you can rebuild very easily, bounce him back and forth. Who's to say they can't do that with Cody Rhodes And who's to say that they won't do that with Cody Rhodes? And then are you as big of a success do you want to do? People want to go over there, So yeah, like you know, there's again multiple things can be right here. You're right, they have to push Cody Rhods, and I think they're doing it incredibly well. And I think the people that are complaining about that, if you're not being trolls, you're just being silly or stupid or blind about it, you know, I mean completely obduce. They are doing what they can with Cody Rhodes. He's not gotten any losses. They have a countdown clock for him, the whole entrance. You know that the top heels can't stand them. It works completely, So I don't again, I think there's a lot of people being disingenuous about that. And if you are honestly missing, and I don't know what to tell you, because they've done as good of a job with Cody Rhodes as they've done anybody being new in that company in the last I don't know how many times here notes talking about repetitive booking. Cody has now wrestled missed twice. That's one match more than he wrestled against his fierce foe m JF and two more than his matches with Kenny Omega, Adam Page, John Moxley or c Him punk in a w Yeah, there's a lot of rematches in w W E. We watched the same show over and over and over and over again. And I need to actually go back and check the roster because you know, there was a time where you know, w w A clearly had a much bigger roster than a W. And they still were doing the same matches over and over again, and somehow a W almost never did rematches. But now I actually think that it's possible that a W has a bigger roster because man, they signed so many people and uh, but it's the same deal. It's like, it doesn't matter how many people w W E has. Vince relies on the exact same people doing the exact same matches over and over again, week after week. Things are going to be changing now that L. A. Knight's Meat Market is on the scene. They're gonna be breaking up from L. A. Knight. It's not L. A. Knight maxi priest max dupre max duprex. No, no, Mike, Max duprix, Max dupri closer, You'll get you. It's like it's like I'm trying to get Howard Stern to s W NBC, like you had it Max dupre dupri Max duprix. That's better Max dupri Is that what like that? Yeah, that's a little bit better mac maximum model management along with his first model second three, I don't know, three M is something they're going to be able to trademark. Well, they're not they're gonna trademark maximum Male, Maximum Male Modever it is maximum model management maximum. I don't even know what it is. Man sore, mace. A lot of m's going on there with that group. Listen to the Filthy show yesterday. We're Filthy tries to argue that Max dupri did not screw up and call him face, from which he did. He did. He introduced him his face, but w W edited off everything and on w dot com, she's a great name for a male model. Would it not be called him face? Don't even get into this again. Well, we're gonna have face and biceps and thighs coming down to the ring. Glutes. Look, I mean on that look on that roster, somebody could come up as glutes. Somebody from n x D. Actually, I picture of gluts working with two dimes and stacks stacks two dimes and glutes. Glutes. Glutes can actually crush two dimes because he's a he's really does those squats and everything, those kettlebells. First fifty minutes of raw, We're fabulous, such a non w W promo. Riddles delivering emotions were spun on. Dude. Riddle was fantastic. He was great, he was awesome. It was a little oh man, now you're gonna be anything else you want to bury. I'm not burying it. I'm just I'm that people a surprised or expersensitive about Riddle being sensitive there. And I saw the I saw the thing afterwards to the digital exclusive that he did where they continued on with it as well, and I mean the ay, I look, I'm not saying that there's not worse things on that show. I just I was surprised that people really loved it as much as they did. God bless you everybody. I like this guy has got an idea for one of the wrestlers in Maximum Muscular whatever, Sir Lloyd, I like that one. He prom'm too good of course, Oh my god. That's how you can break away Otis for shakes and waits and bring back that version of him. You know he could. He's a new recruit somehow, the male model management, and he's the comic relief there, Sir Loyns, Sir Loyd. Now this guy, says, Sir Loins, I'm not sure if that's better or or worse. The phone lines are opened, by the way, if you're board otherwisetacular these text messages. I don't know who they're gonna bring in for m M M. First here says hear me out. We need bad shows like n x T an other w w E programming. When you and Vinnie review a w which most times is an awesome show, the reviews go pretty quickly, as you talked about the good stuff. When you review n x T, those reviews take longer because there's so much horrible stuff to talk about. If Alive Rustling was just great, I don't think we would have That's true, I would miss you know, there's always gotta be I've always got to have some rival. It's gonna be balancing for a while. And then it was t n A, and I never thought it would be w w E. But here we are. Plus some people are just into shotting freud to and they take great pleasure out of watching Vinnie and great pain having to view these shows. It's by the way, how long did the interview portion of the uh Edge and all that? How long did that go? For? The match went about eleven and a half minutes? How long did the interview segment go for what's about the edge thing? Yeah? I told you They stood in the ring for eight minutes and then they talked for eight minutes. They were there for sixteen minuting, so with the match itself, so nearly twelve minutes twenty eight minutes spent on that. If you watch the video recap, which is all you would need to see from it, it's two minutes in nineteen seconds, I believe on WWE dot com, and you get a little of the promo, You get the end of the match, which is all you need and tells you a lot about that show. Please review Brian video reviews on Noah with Russo esque that does no Sawa? Oh god are you now? You're gonna become the uh the Nosawa wrestling expert. Now, I never say anything about that, and that's what that person said there. But I hear a lot about Nozawa. Yes, ready one good? No, No, people don't like him, No, they don't. This person here says I have to read one about skip the Sasha Naomi one? Is that for the best? All right? Any chance Helen to Cell will be better than Wrestle Media Backlash. My expectations for Backlash were low, but it turned out to be a good show. Any chance Helen his Cell will be better. Well, I mean there's always a chance. I mean, listen, the wrestlers are are all for the most part good, So I mean, if you've got let's look at this Helen a Cell cart here, I think we've got four official matches. But I mean Cody and Seth and Helen a Cell, I mean, you know that's gonna be good. And Bianca Oscar and Becky that's gonna be really good. Ezekiel and Kevin Owens. I mean, we'll see Kevin Owen's really good. Lastly, omas An m v P. I mean it'll suck. So yeah, I'm that's only that's what we got so far. You know it's really good. El Pantasmo is pretty doomed. Of course he's good. I could have told you that you had a match with Titon and another match with the Wheeler Utah during the Best of the Super Juniors excellent the Outliers. Two of the outlier wrestling matches. There hasn't been too much bad and that's been for show Tanaka and uh Rice Skate to Gucci. They've been having the bad stuff. But Desperado and Titan was a great one. Horomo and Akira, it's another Francisco Akira, another really good one. And and t J P against Desperado and Lindeman both fantastic as well too, but not as fantastic as these Old Bay goldfish crackers. Have you seen these? Do they have these on the West Coast? Do they have these in the Pacific Northwest? These things are fantastic. Not good for your sodium count, but it doesn't matter. Might be plugging goldfish for free, I might add dum. I don't even know where to start back in the moments of her life. Like in the show, Bran Elder is here sling Observer live. What is this person? Man? We were talking about on the Filthy Tom Show yesterday, as mentioning that, man, if I were feeling it, I'd I'd come out of retirement and go after Tom's Black Label Pro Midwest Championship or whatever he had, And I said, I could be the king of the these, you know, the regional titles. As a former tech Star Canada television champion, Guy here says, clearly Brian is a case of regional championship envy, needing to downplay Tom's title, representing around twelve states and seventy million people, including several major metropolitan areas, by putting it on equal footing with a belt representing portions of three states and roughly a hundred fifty thousand people. Bro, what are these states? Is Texas? What are you talking about the biggest state for Alaska? It's not all of Texas. You only get like the Panhandle port, get that whole area. You don't know. You know, you haven't broken into the Blanchard territory down in the Southwest, into the Funks and the Armarillos. You couldn't. You couldn't handle it out that far. We don't even know what the Midwest technically even covers. What is the Midwest? It's a it's a it's a it's a vague term for a vague area. You stop, you're a really Uh. I didn't put on equal footing anyway. I just said that is a former tech SAR Canon champion, it would only be fitting that I would become a Midwest champion as well. Yeah, you should come out of retirement and do that so we can see you get choked out. He wouldn't choke me out here. Come up, I'm retired, lazy, old more out of time. But we got more coming up tonight. The uh, get out of you. I'm not bad at math or geography. I hate you guys. I'll talk to you next time Wrestling Observer Live. You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network
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Obviously there's a rampage on Friday, and if you are one of those folks go to Las Vegas for Double or Nothing weekend, well be in the building at about two o'clock on Friday, because the show is gonna start at two thirty Pacific five thirty eastern, and uh, that looks to be the plan, but they're gonna they're gonna go at that point one way or the other. I suppose you can go live to tape or whatever. But to thirty Pacific five thirty eastern is when the show is going to start on Friday. We'll give you the lineup for all of these shows. There's a lot coming up, so we'll talk about that here today on the show. Thankfully, we got nothing regarding Sasha and Naomi, so that's your update for the day. We got ratings to talk about here of course, our weekly raw report, and uh plenty more. If you'd like to contact us here today four to five seven eight zero seven five six six. That is the text message line four to five seven eight zero seven six six Brian at Wrestling Observer dot com is the email address at Brian Alvarez on at Twitter. And the update on land Storm is he is feeling almost back to normal after his battle with COVID, which means it too Pacific five eastern today. We will be doing our figure four daily with land Storm only for subscribers Wrestling Observer dot com or Video dot at Online dot com. Lance returns in a couple of hours. Mike smber vvs here after the break back at the moment Observer Live sometimes back in the show. Brian Over is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike Simber b B also of Wrestling Observer dot com. Well, we've got a lot of big shows coming up, everybody. Our favorite show at x T two point oh takes place tonight. The itamly takes place on on Wednesday, Rampage on Friday. We actually have matches for next week's raw already. But here's what we got coming up everyone. Tonight on n x T two point oh, braun Breaker is going to be facing Duke Hudson, who's six five, in a non title match. Mandy Rose will be facing Indie Heartwell in a non titled match. Pretty Deadly Only facing Roderick Strong and David Kemp in a non titled match. These titles are very prestigious, Dress and No Fe and Malika Blade versus Stacks and two dimes, which, by the way, I was alerted yesterday. The two dimes is also I guess a term for like a life sentence in prison two dimes twenty years. It's not a life sentence. Well, life sentence is normally twenty years. That's why you can get consecutive life sentences. What are you talking about? Where have you been? Bro It depends on if you anyway, this guy ain't even twenty, so I'm not sure how even got two times unless he committed some horrible crime when he was zero. Maybe it's because he's twenty. That's how you had ten plus ten two twenty years old? Two times? What's happening? Elbow fire and electro Lopez and Wesley versus Shunga? He was born in prison? This guy says, oh, man, what how long is a life sentence? It's like eighty years or sixty years or something. Life sentence any type of imprisonment where defendant is required to remain in prison for all of their natural life or until parole. So how long is a life sentence? Well, in most of the United States, a life sentence means a person in prison for fifteen years with the chance of parole. So there you go, soft parole boards. I guess letting people out early, raising Arizona or something like that. But there are multiple types of life imprisonment. There's uh fifteen years to life twenty five years to life, life with mercy, indeterminate life sentences, life without the possibility of parole, life without mercy, etcetera, etcetera. But the point is without mercy. Yeah, can you imagine that? Damn? I should have had funt Leroy read those to life though, that's the one that sounds most familiar. So we really don't know what what two times what his name is all about. I think he's got twenty cents to his name, but other people have suggested other things. And I mean, we don't really know what stax means either. When he gets cut in three months, I guess one we'll find that out. I mean, maybe he's really into paper this stacks. Maybe he works at a print shop. I don't know. We do anything about these two guys. Maybe he likes playing Djanga Dynamo it. On Wednesday, we have FTR versus Rapunk device for the Ring of Honor World Take Team Titles. So they got titles on the line on this show, brother, we got some O Joe Kylo Reiley Men's Tournaments Semifinal, Britt Baker, Tony Storm Women's Tournament Semifinal, Ward Lows Shan Spears with m JF is the referee, Jungle Boys, Swerve Strickland and Ricky Starks in a three way see him Punk and Hangman Page will have a confrontation and just added thunder Rosa will be interviewed by Tony Hivanni. Oh no, it never works out well. It's becoming a parody now, this this whole deal with her and it's this has not been the title reign that I would have expected that thunder Rosa would have like, try to turn this one around. I don't know if an interview segment with Tony Hivoni is going to do it, because you know Nyla Rose that one didn't work out too well. And ye, these things just don't work out well. And of course Raw next week if you do not see Raw, will do the Raw report after the break. But it was originally going to be Oscar versus Bianca bell Air at Helen his Cell because Oscar had beaten Becky Lynch last week. But Becky got put into another match this week where if she won she would be added to the match. So she won. Now it's a three way, so next week on the go Home Raw you get to see the match. There was originally the championship match at Helena's Cell. It will be Oscar versus Bianca bell Air non title next week and the return to action of Lacey Evans. We're gonna find out one way or the other. I shouldn't say that I expect to find out next week if she has a baby face or if they're actually going hell with Lacey, because it was and you know how these things go. The plan was that she would be a hell. Once everybody heard that, they just were like a ghast. So it's possible the they're gonna go baby face with her, But I guess we'll find out on Monday. Listen. I have no problem long term with going heel with Lacey Evans. At some point you can make some sort of change. But to do all of that, because you know what, you can only do it once. It's like the Cameron Grimes deal. I mean, if that guy would have lost, how many times can he go back to the same story about how he promised his father he would win a title in n x T. I mean you could, but I mean the jump it was strike when the iron is hot. Have her work as a baby face, see how over she can get as a baby face, and then eventually fine, turn her heel, but you can never do this six weeks of vignettes again to get her over as a heroic baby face. So don't miss his up, you idiots. That's my advice nobody ever takes. We returning to Saudi Arabian November, maybe Lacy Evans can work on that show November five, so it'll be just a few weeks before the Survivor series. And uh yeah, this is how they make their money. Sixty million dollars a show, approximately every time they do a show in Saudi Arabia. So if you're wondering why, well stacks and two times, maybe that's why. So they're gonna go there on November five, make their money. And that's the story. Christmas money. I can keep going if you want, Mike, well, what do you want me to add to that? Nothing smacked down two point zero three one million viewers, up eleven percent, largest audience for the show since April fifteen point four five in eighteen forty nine, So that's pretty good number there. Rampage heared at seven Eastern four on the West Coast, four thousand views up. Why am I so itchy? Well, Billy Kidman all of a sudden, Now do you fleas over there? It's it's called it's called I've been crying about this weather new fabric soft. How we were eight days into May and we broke the record for rain. Eight days into the month, we've already broken the record, and then by by day fifteen we had double the rain we ever have in May. I was just ready to just you know what I'm saying. And then all of a sudden, the sun came out the other day and it was like it was I think it hit like sixty eight or seventy and it was like a heat wave. We lost power and then like my allergies exploded. So yeah, that's what's going on. So I apologize for all the itching. Anyway, I think just mold and mildew up there. Most of the year, we don't have mold or mildew. We clean our houses. We don't what you think's going on. We leave everything out in the rain, we bring it inside. Does your help queen your house? Yeah, we actually hire people to clean this house. And if you saw this house, you you'd probably hire more people than we do. So ANYWAYUD viewers for rampage up twenty point six percent point one, five and eighteen best rating since April for the day on cable. Pretty soon this will all be over. They'll be back in their normal time slot. Then we can accurately judge them again. But that's that's the update, and that's the news. Everybody. Have you been watching the any of the New Japan Best of the Super Juniors? I have not watched one second of it. Oh man, I'm lot going on dude, Yeah, well is it good? Are you just gonna ask me the question and not answer did you watch the second? Yes? I've seen almost every match so far. It's been fantastic so far, but a lot of really good wrestling, and I can say, can you believe that? But I can see it like literally like three to three and a half star matches. There's been a couple of outliers that have been really good. That El Desperado is look fantastic being over there. Ace Austin from t NA has really impressed me being over there. He's been in perfectly so you know, I can see the g One starting off with a lot more fire than this has. But for a lot of guys, this is their first time in Japan, that's our first time working for New Japan and with some of the opponents they've been with, But you know, guys like Titan, Clarke, Connors, t J P, all of those guys have stood out. Well. You know, maybe I'll maybe I'll watch some after n x T two point out tonight. Back in a moment, Observer Live bagging the show. Bright Nowder is here Wrestling Observer A Live, Mikes and re Vivi also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Let's get this raw report out of the way. They will take your feedback and maybe your calls in the next segment. I mean, there was good stuff on the show. Yeah, did you watch it? Man? Mett Riddle came out crying. I was crying so sad to have lost that match. And his friend Randy, Randy's been having a rough time last couple of years, back hurts, He's just in pain all the time, and he knew Randy didn't want to let him down. But he let Randy down, and Randy's not here tonight. And he looked in the came and he says, Randy, I just want you to know I love you. Fans are practically crying. It's very heart wrenching. Little segment right here then read to a match or led to a match. Riddle in the Street profits versus Sammy and the USOS because this, I mean, they haven't officially said anything, but the brand extension is it's essentially done. Half of the Raw crew is gonna be on SmackDown Friday. Cody's gonna be there. I think Seth is gonna be there. They're just doing whatever and it makes for a better show, as we mentioned a thousand times. So anyway, uh ended up with the USO's walking out on Sammy Zane. So Sammy's aids all by himself. One on three, Riddle hits him with the arcado and pins him, and they talked about how Riddle has has gotten his revenge. It's like he has. Anyway, he won, so that was nice. We had the Bobby Lashly Almighty Challenge and it was essentially Bobby Lashly coming out. And Lashly is not like a great promo, but the thing is like, he's a he's a legitimate bad dude, and so if the right guy you know, starts you know, saying the right things, he's actually pretty good. So he's challenged m v P to a match, and if the winner gets to choose the stipulations for Lashly versus Omas at Helen his cell. So, you know, m VP is like he doesn't really want to do the match, and so Lashly asks to be scared, and so then m v P launched into this pro bout I'm not scared, I made you, I'm a former blah blah blah, and then Lashly Lashly gets all riled up and he starts I'm not kicking your ass tonight. It's actually turned into a pretty a promo segment. That was the entire first hour of the show. By the way, the whole first hour was those two segments. Then the judgment day comes out and they stand in the ring for eight minutes while they do commercials and backstage interviews with Data Brooke and and this and that Becky Lynch. Then they come back and they talk for another eight minutes, and so after about sixteen minutes, it's finally time for a match. What did they talk about, you ask? You know, they talked about it's because of the fans. It's the fans fault. Eight minutes of it's because of you fans. And it's even funnier because they're supposed to be heels and the fans supposed to hate them. And the first thing that that Damian Priest says is all rise and bro, you look in the background and all the fans rise, they rise, he says, all rise, and they're like, oh, he told us to stand up, and they all stand up and part Damian Priest, let's look around and go. I said, all right, like they're not listening to me, even though they did. These fans, these w w E fans or something else nowadays. So anyway, then a match was h and Damian Priest versus Live moregan in AJ styles. I do like by the way, that my favorite, one of my favorite wrestling names in the last decade was Punishment Martinez, which was the name of Damian Priest before they changed his name, so they can't call him that, but Edge repeatedly refers to him as the Punishment, which is awesome. So anyway, they had a good match and Edge of course interfered multiple times and finally cost Live more than the wind Ripley Pinder. And then the baby Faces get beaten and then they get beaten up you know heat, so they're all killed. We had a miss promo. God help me. We had Jerry Lawler's Kink's Court with Vir Mahan. Vir Mahan is the biggest, scariest, most imitating guy in storyline. So you know, seventy something year old Jerry Lawler goes out there. He just tells a bunch of jokes and makes fun of the guy. And they did do a quick promo with Vier, and then Lawyers was making more jokes and now Vier's like, well, I gott I guess I gotta kill you now, and so the mysterios run out and they clear the ring of vir Mahan. So it looks like we're gonna have multiple handicap matches at the pay per view, because you know in w W, it's like they have forty writers, but they all have the same one idea. So you know that's what happens here. They are one ideas. Uh, handicap matches. I think we're gonna have too at the pay per view. The gimmick where you tease a count out and then the guy flies in the ring and then immediately gets pinned. We've seen that three times in the last two weeks between Ron Smackdow. We saw it again on this show. Alexa Bliss promo Alexa Blisses. I mean, oh my god, this was She's happy to be back. Let's just leave it at that. Then we had Alexibly beating nicky Ash. We've seen this match, you know, we saw it last week. We're seeing it again, the same match she won. Okay, third hour, they did the countdown clock for Cody. Cody is gonna be showing up nine fifty or whatever, so they play his music. He comes down cross going crazy. He's gonna get to the ring. They shut the lights off and he has stand there for eight minutes because we got a commercial Oscar video package Oscar interview. Finally, the Miss does his entrance. I don't know if you guys are aware of this or not, but Cody's first match back was with the Miss and he beat him. Well, here we are. I got an idea. Let's just do it again. So they do the same match we've already seen. Nobody believes the Miss is beating Cody. MS has his good days, and he has his days and aren't so good. This was one of those days. Boring match misses underwater slow motion, and finally Cody goes up top and uh and seth Throns comes down and shoves him off the top and it's a d Q. Yeah. So he beats up Cody. And then earlier Cody had given his weight belt to some youngster and so for heat Seth goes and steals it back from the youngster. And he goes and he just gives It's only one whack, but man, he whacked Cody wax him with this belt and leaves and then Cody's he's limp in, he's selling his leg his backs all messed up, and he goes and he gives a belt back to the kid. What a baby face. Oh my god. So then you know, talking about matches that we've seen before, because you know how many wrestlers do they have between two brands. God, I've seen the same matches over. I'm losing it now, try and reel myself in, reel myself in, Let it go, Come on to go. We see Ezekiel and Chad Gable again. This is the third match we're seeing again here in the last couple of weeks. Last week he was at least good because Kevin owns Is on commentary was awesome. It was the best thing on the show. Well, this week it's w w E. So it's like, well, no one was paying attention to the match because of Kevin Owens. So he can be there, but he can't talk. So he's a ringside, but they don't le him do commentary. These blokes, Oh four minutes, nothing happened in match. I was begging for them to put the headset on Kevin Owens. Kevin Owens like he's off screen, He's like he's lying, he's a liar, like turning up the volumes. I could only hear Kevin Owens because the only interesting thing about this almost in a bad word about this stupid match. And then uh, and then you'll never guess. Actually Ezekiel pinned him. There was multiple interference, but the referee was was fine with it, and then Ezekiel got a cradle for the pin. So then Ezekiel bails. Kevin Owens wants to match with Ezekiel at Helen his cell and what do you do? Cody Rhodes promo where he talked about Helen a Cell. M v P versus lashly this match, my god, m VP has not wrestling a long time, and he's coming off knee surgery and this is one of those matches where you know, Jerry Lawler. They'll Jerry Lawler do anything. But Jerry Lawler is wrestling like multiple matches every week on the Indies, and you know you're thinking, well man, and then there you know, like Rick Flaer's got his match and everybody's worried about it. Dude, these guys went three minutes and I don't think MVP did one move in this whole match. He did one running They Accuza kick in the corner. He did nothing in this match. And finally they're outside and Bobby Lashly and Oh Moss start brawling. The refere he's looking right at on the outside. There brawling outside the ring. This is not a d Q, it's tad. The ref goes, hey nine, Taddy counts out Lashly as he's brawling with Omas, who is not in the match. So m v P wins. He gets to choose the stipulation. It will be a handicap match at Helen his Cell. M v P and Omas against Lashly at Helen his Cell. And then the announcers explained, well, you know they were brawling, but the ref never saw Lashly hit Omas. He only saw Omas. Oh no, it was the other way around. He never saw Omas it Lashly. He only saw lashlet Omas, so it wasn't a d Q. It's like, well, that's fine, but why are you counting the guy out. Lacey Evans returns next week. Then the main event Becky Lynch and Oscar. In real life they got eleven minutes, but in your life they got six because we had a commercial break right in the middle of the match. It's like they did the same thing they always do. Bianca does her entrance. There's literally twenty one minutes left in the show, so they could have had like a really good match, but Bianca enters and then they go to commercial, and then Oscar that's her entrance, and then Becky has to do her entrance and they finally start the match, and then they go immediately to commercial and they come back and there's six minutes left and boom boom boom boom boom. They did the same finish. I was just mocking a moment ago Oscar tries to kick Becky, she kicks Bianca. Becky tries to throw Oscar into the table, but they screw up the spot and Oscar just falls down. Becky jumps in the ring and she wants Oscar to get counted out. Oscar makes in the ring at the last second, but Becky doesn't even hit her with a move. Oscar rolls into the ring and then just lays their dead and Becky pins her. That was a finish, So it is now a three way at Helen his cell And that was Raw. Back in a moment Observer Life. Back in the show, Bright albre is here wrestling Observer Live. Mike simbur Bby also wrestling Observing dot Com. I was chatting with the chat and uh has a lot of dumb things. Okay, but we don't need to invent dumb things, all right. Oscar is not being buried because she lost on Raw. What's happening is this is the booking they do for every single three way unless unless it involves Roman Range because he will never be pinned. But anybody else on the roster if they're in a three way, this is the exact booking that they do. Last week, Becky lost, this week, Oscar lost. Coming up on Monday, I bet you anything, Bianca is going to lose. This is their classic three way booking. Everybody loses to everybody else how many times? How many or somebody said this, we're gonna we're gonna buy the pay per view to find out which of you is the most successful loser, not like which one to use the best. You're all losers. You're all gonna lose. Becky lost, like you're all losing. So which one you can can manage to get out with one win? That's what you're paying for on pay per view? Now? Could they have done the finished better? Well, of course, but you can say that about virtually every single match. It's like when people are going, oh, Cody's being buried, he can't win. He keeps winning by d Q. It's like, do you watch the show or do you just like everybody loses via d Q all the time on every show, it's d Q, d Q, d Q count out, count out, distraction, distraction, distraction, distraction. What you have to look at is it's not, well, you know who's being pushed based on their win loss. Well, if you're looking at it that way, there's one person being pushed three I guess Roman reigns and the use those that's it. No one else in the entire company is being pushed. If you're gonna go buy a win loss record, alright, and even the use os have done non title jobs, So I guess we're down to only Roman Reigns. All right, So how do you determine who is a star if you can't go by win loss. Well, you look at everybody is presented on television, and to try to claim that Cody is not being presented as a star. Yeah, he had a match with the miss with no heat. Okay, anything in the third hour is going to have no heat. You have a main event with Seth Rawlins and by that point the show it's gonna have no heat. Doesn't mean Seth isn't a star. So are they doing a countdown clock for Cody? Are they telling you every week win Cody? Of course, right now, Cody is being pushed as the second biggest star in this company behind Roman Reigns. Now, if you watch the tone, you're like, are you kidding yet? No, I'm not kidding you. That's what's going on. Yeah, it sounds ridiculous when you think about it, but that's the way this company operates. And there's a lot of things to make fun of. But we don't have to invent things to make fun of. There's there's plenty, right. I can't believe people are this bent up about Cody Rhodes. I just well, and remember we had the prediction show about Cody. Remember that prediction show about Cody. It was actually funny because everybody had a prediction, but when they actually had to call in and give it, they didn't have the prediction they had like on the chats or whatever. But everybody was sure that Cody was gonna fail and he was gonna be buried and he's gonna be chasing seven title. That's all we heard before he came in. And I think people were mad at me because I said, dude, they're gonna push this guy. They have to push this guy because they want to get m jfs and Young and whoever else from a W when their contracts come due. Jericho. They're they're gonna want to steal people from a W. So it does them no good to burry Cody. You have to push Cody as a big and oh no, they're not bright. He's gonna chase that seven title. Well, now he's actually being pushes a star. Now we have to invent a narrative where he's getting buried. Well, I think it's not, but Brian, I think there's some long term middle ground there where it's like, yeah, things are gonna have to play out, and how will they feel about him a year from now, two years from now, three years and now, you know, I don't know how long has contracts flood states For three years? We have seen them do stop starts with everybody, with the exception even even of Roman Reigns. But even Roman Reigns has been the one consistent that they've you know, push people, but they've fallen out of favor with anybody. We talked about it with Kevin Owens is somebody you can rebuild the seth Rollins, you can rebuild very easily, bounce him back and forth. Who's to say they can't do that with Cody Rhodes And who's to say that they won't do that with Cody Rhodes? And then are you as big of a success do you want to do? People want to go over there, So yeah, like you know, there's again multiple things can be right here. You're right, they have to push Cody Rhods, and I think they're doing it incredibly well. And I think the people that are complaining about that, if you're not being trolls, you're just being silly or stupid or blind about it, you know, I mean completely obduce. They are doing what they can with Cody Rhodes. He's not gotten any losses. They have a countdown clock for him, the whole entrance. You know that the top heels can't stand them. It works completely, So I don't again, I think there's a lot of people being disingenuous about that. And if you are honestly missing, and I don't know what to tell you, because they've done as good of a job with Cody Rhodes as they've done anybody being new in that company in the last I don't know how many times here notes talking about repetitive booking. Cody has now wrestled missed twice. That's one match more than he wrestled against his fierce foe m JF and two more than his matches with Kenny Omega, Adam Page, John Moxley or c Him punk in a w Yeah, there's a lot of rematches in w W E. We watched the same show over and over and over and over again. And I need to actually go back and check the roster because you know, there was a time where you know, w w A clearly had a much bigger roster than a W. And they still were doing the same matches over and over again, and somehow a W almost never did rematches. But now I actually think that it's possible that a W has a bigger roster because man, they signed so many people and uh, but it's the same deal. It's like, it doesn't matter how many people w W E has. Vince relies on the exact same people doing the exact same matches over and over again, week after week. Things are going to be changing now that L. A. Knight's Meat Market is on the scene. They're gonna be breaking up from L. A. Knight. It's not L. A. Knight maxi priest max dupre max duprex. No, no, Mike, Max duprix, Max dupri closer, You'll get you. It's like it's like I'm trying to get Howard Stern to s W NBC, like you had it Max dupre dupri Max duprix. That's better Max dupri Is that what like that? Yeah, that's a little bit better mac maximum model management along with his first model second three, I don't know, three M is something they're going to be able to trademark. Well, they're not they're gonna trademark maximum Male, Maximum Male Modever it is maximum model management maximum. I don't even know what it is. Man sore, mace. A lot of m's going on there with that group. Listen to the Filthy show yesterday. We're Filthy tries to argue that Max dupri did not screw up and call him face, from which he did. He did. He introduced him his face, but w W edited off everything and on w dot com, she's a great name for a male model. Would it not be called him face? Don't even get into this again. Well, we're gonna have face and biceps and thighs coming down to the ring. Glutes. Look, I mean on that look on that roster, somebody could come up as glutes. Somebody from n x D. Actually, I picture of gluts working with two dimes and stacks stacks two dimes and glutes. Glutes. Glutes can actually crush two dimes because he's a he's really does those squats and everything, those kettlebells. First fifty minutes of raw, We're fabulous, such a non w W promo. Riddles delivering emotions were spun on. Dude. Riddle was fantastic. He was great, he was awesome. It was a little oh man, now you're gonna be anything else you want to bury. I'm not burying it. I'm just I'm that people a surprised or expersensitive about Riddle being sensitive there. And I saw the I saw the thing afterwards to the digital exclusive that he did where they continued on with it as well, and I mean the ay, I look, I'm not saying that there's not worse things on that show. I just I was surprised that people really loved it as much as they did. God bless you everybody. I like this guy has got an idea for one of the wrestlers in Maximum Muscular whatever, Sir Lloyd, I like that one. He prom'm too good of course, Oh my god. That's how you can break away Otis for shakes and waits and bring back that version of him. You know he could. He's a new recruit somehow, the male model management, and he's the comic relief there, Sir Loyns, Sir Loyd. Now this guy, says, Sir Loins, I'm not sure if that's better or or worse. The phone lines are opened, by the way, if you're board otherwisetacular these text messages. I don't know who they're gonna bring in for m M M. First here says hear me out. We need bad shows like n x T an other w w E programming. When you and Vinnie review a w which most times is an awesome show, the reviews go pretty quickly, as you talked about the good stuff. When you review n x T, those reviews take longer because there's so much horrible stuff to talk about. If Alive Rustling was just great, I don't think we would have That's true, I would miss you know, there's always gotta be I've always got to have some rival. It's gonna be balancing for a while. And then it was t n A, and I never thought it would be w w E. But here we are. Plus some people are just into shotting freud to and they take great pleasure out of watching Vinnie and great pain having to view these shows. It's by the way, how long did the interview portion of the uh Edge and all that? How long did that go? For? The match went about eleven and a half minutes? How long did the interview segment go for what's about the edge thing? Yeah? I told you They stood in the ring for eight minutes and then they talked for eight minutes. They were there for sixteen minuting, so with the match itself, so nearly twelve minutes twenty eight minutes spent on that. If you watch the video recap, which is all you would need to see from it, it's two minutes in nineteen seconds, I believe on WWE dot com, and you get a little of the promo, You get the end of the match, which is all you need and tells you a lot about that show. Please review Brian video reviews on Noah with Russo esque that does no Sawa? Oh god are you now? You're gonna become the uh the Nosawa wrestling expert. Now, I never say anything about that, and that's what that person said there. But I hear a lot about Nozawa. Yes, ready one good? No, No, people don't like him, No, they don't. This person here says I have to read one about skip the Sasha Naomi one? Is that for the best? All right? Any chance Helen to Cell will be better than Wrestle Media Backlash. My expectations for Backlash were low, but it turned out to be a good show. Any chance Helen his Cell will be better. Well, I mean there's always a chance. I mean, listen, the wrestlers are are all for the most part good, So I mean, if you've got let's look at this Helen a Cell cart here, I think we've got four official matches. But I mean Cody and Seth and Helen a Cell, I mean, you know that's gonna be good. And Bianca Oscar and Becky that's gonna be really good. Ezekiel and Kevin Owens. I mean, we'll see Kevin Owen's really good. Lastly, omas An m v P. I mean it'll suck. So yeah, I'm that's only that's what we got so far. You know it's really good. El Pantasmo is pretty doomed. Of course he's good. I could have told you that you had a match with Titon and another match with the Wheeler Utah during the Best of the Super Juniors excellent the Outliers. Two of the outlier wrestling matches. There hasn't been too much bad and that's been for show Tanaka and uh Rice Skate to Gucci. They've been having the bad stuff. But Desperado and Titan was a great one. Horomo and Akira, it's another Francisco Akira, another really good one. And and t J P against Desperado and Lindeman both fantastic as well too, but not as fantastic as these Old Bay goldfish crackers. Have you seen these? Do they have these on the West Coast? Do they have these in the Pacific Northwest? These things are fantastic. Not good for your sodium count, but it doesn't matter. Might be plugging goldfish for free, I might add dum. I don't even know where to start back in the moments of her life. Like in the show, Bran Elder is here sling Observer live. What is this person? Man? We were talking about on the Filthy Tom Show yesterday, as mentioning that, man, if I were feeling it, I'd I'd come out of retirement and go after Tom's Black Label Pro Midwest Championship or whatever he had, And I said, I could be the king of the these, you know, the regional titles. As a former tech Star Canada television champion, Guy here says, clearly Brian is a case of regional championship envy, needing to downplay Tom's title, representing around twelve states and seventy million people, including several major metropolitan areas, by putting it on equal footing with a belt representing portions of three states and roughly a hundred fifty thousand people. Bro, what are these states? Is Texas? What are you talking about the biggest state for Alaska? It's not all of Texas. You only get like the Panhandle port, get that whole area. You don't know. You know, you haven't broken into the Blanchard territory down in the Southwest, into the Funks and the Armarillos. You couldn't. You couldn't handle it out that far. We don't even know what the Midwest technically even covers. What is the Midwest? It's a it's a it's a it's a vague term for a vague area. You stop, you're a really Uh. I didn't put on equal footing anyway. I just said that is a former tech SAR Canon champion, it would only be fitting that I would become a Midwest champion as well. Yeah, you should come out of retirement and do that so we can see you get choked out. He wouldn't choke me out here. Come up, I'm retired, lazy, old more out of time. But we got more coming up tonight. The uh, get out of you. I'm not bad at math or geography. I hate you guys. I'll talk to you next time Wrestling Observer Live. You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network
