#33 Business Development with Eric Ely

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Hey, what's going on everybody?
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Welcome back to the Possibility Mindset Podcast.
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My name is Devin Henderson and I am your host, and I truly deeply believe that something greater is always possible for you.
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Well, hello, eric Healy, how you doing today.
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Awesome, awesome.
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Man, would you like to hear about the product that we're promoting today?
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I do, yeah, that's why you're here, right, okay, awesome.
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Well, I want to let you all know about Mudwater.
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Mudwater is my coffee replacement.
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It's going well.
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I'm about 220 days off coffee right now and, yeah, man, you're drinking coffee.
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You like it, do you?
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drink too much coffee or what's going on?
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Mud water.
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You need some mud water, yeah, yeah.
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Well, just go to the show link eric, you'll see it's mudwatercom slash devon.
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Mud water is mud and then water is wtr.
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No, vowelscom slash devon.
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It really is something that's supposed to give you more focus, boost your immunity and just help you overall.
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It's less caffeine, it tastes good, it's got a little chocolate in it, I put some honey in it and it's really helping me on this journey of getting away from coffee, and so I don't know for sure yet if I'm going back, but that's where I'm at right now.
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I'm going to try it out.
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Yeah, okay, cool man.
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Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
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I tell you what.
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Well, because it's like a third amount of the caffeine that's in coffee and I just love the ritual of a hot, yummy drink in my hands all morning.
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It's not like I have my cup of coffee, like people would be like I already had my coffee.
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I'm like what do you mean?
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You already had it?
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Like when I would drink coffee.
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It would be like I'm having my coffee from like eight to noon.
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I always need a cup in my hand, which was obviously why I'm trying to get away from it.
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It was too much.
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But with mud water, even if you still want to drink coffee, you could drink your cup.
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Be done and then move to mud water.
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Nice, it's an idea.
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That's what I did for a while, but now I went cold turkey from coffee just to kind of see if it makes a difference.
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I'm on a journey.
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I don't know.
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Yet You're in a good mood.
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I am in a good mood.
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Yeah, thank you for noticing that.
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This is the second podcast for the day, so I'm in the zone, yeah, and, as I mentioned in the last episode, this might be our last time here at formerly Etcetera, now Rise and Shine slash.
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Actually, this space is owned by Minsky's Pizza, which, by the way, I'm going to try to hit up the owner of Minsky's to see if he'll let us keep using this space.
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Notice all the pizza boxes behind us.
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Eric pointed out that you don't know what pizza boxes those are because they're turned the wrong way.
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They either say Best Pizza or Kansas City, but if we were just to turn it, you know 45 degrees, you'd see Minsky's.
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And Minsky's Eric this is the truth is my favorite pizza of all time.
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It's awesome, Not just saying that because of Nextdoor.
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I've loved it since I was a kid.
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So wait, those are empty.
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Those are empty.
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I thought you part of the podcast.
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I thought we were.
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Oh, you thought that lunch was next.
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Okay, fine, all right, that's cool.
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Oh man, I'm learning a lot about Eric's sense of humor.
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He had me earlier because he works in Shawnee.
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He is the hold on.
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Eric, I want to make sure I get your title right here the.
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Director of Business Development and Retention at the Shawnee Economic Development Council.
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Can you have a longer title please?
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I need it longer.
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That's not even enough.
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No, nope, I was talking about Lenexa.
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For some reason which those of you that don't live in the Kansas City metro Lenexa and Shawnee are like neighbors and so, since he's a big Shawnee guy, I was talking about Lenexa.
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He's like where, what are you talking about?
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At first I was like he's not hearing me.
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Right, lenexa, and he's just messing with me because he's a punk.
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Well, eric, let's introduce you and then we'll talk about our history and all that.
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Okay, so, by a dynamic leader who is more than an advocate.
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He's the voice of greatness, ensuring continued growth for a top-tier community.
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I can vouch for that.
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I'm part of it.
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Say hello to Eric Ely.
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Director of Business Development and Retention at the Shawnee Economic Development Council.
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Nailed it, boom.
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He's been there for nearly a decade, really Doing this job as a de.
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It seems like it's been a couple of decades, but it's really been like six and a half years.
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Okay, doing this job, doing this job, I've worked for the city for a long time and then, okay, became a fish farmer.
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We'll go into all, yeah yeah, fish farmer, standby for that, all right.
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For nearly a decade, he has remained committed to championing a local enterprise and and that's true, he's done.
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He's doing that for me, uh, just the other day and in doing so, enhanced more than its legacy of excellence, but the endless possibilities that are yet to be.
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So, ladies and gentlemen, eric ely, all right, oh, I thought I said applause yeah, yeah, oh yeah the applause sign.
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I it's.
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I'm numb to it, thank you.
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Um, yeah, hey, I see that hand.
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Uh, you got to it.
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Thank you, thank you, yeah, hey, I see that hand.
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You got your Shawnee Chamber shirt on.
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You're ready to go for the day.
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It's Friday, it's a casual day.
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It's casual.
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What do you wear Monday through Thursday?
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Sport coat.
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You know I try to look the part, Do you?
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Yeah, you dress it up.
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I man, you know what I mean?
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The candy man can yeah, awesome dude.
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Well, uh, so we actually go way, way back.
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Yeah, you, you graduated with my brother, jason, from china, mission northwest go coogs, go coogs.
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And uh, a few years before me and then before that, you and jason played on the same baseball team, tippins way back in the day when you were probably in what like fourth or fifth grade, so it was a long time ago.
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I was just a little tight in the day when you were probably in what like fourth or fifth grade.
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That was a long time ago.
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I was just a little tight in the stands, but I remember those days.
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It used to be called Pippins.
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I remember that too, and then it was Tippins.
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Yes, and then I got really confused.
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Serious identity crisis there going on, it's just now happening again.
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Yes, yeah, I remember the Pippins Tippins Trans.
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What was that all about?
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Why change one letter?
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What happened?
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They were trying to confuse us.
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Is that what it was?
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Conspiracy, yep.
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Yeah, is it the Mandela effect?
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Where maybe actually it was Tippins the whole time and we're like wait, was it?
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Pippins, Tippins, what's going?
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on yeah.
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What's going on?
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Oh man, I don't know.
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Dude civic center a lot and kick my soccer ball around because I needed an indoor space, you know when it was really hot or cold outside.
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And then eric's in there and all of a sudden eric's like I know your brother jason.
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I was like who is this guy?
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So, so yeah, what?
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What are the jobs?
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And you, you've done the shawnee thing for 10 years.
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When you were at the civic center, what were you doing there?
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I was um, what was my title?
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I was like a recreation program.
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It was it was really really long, or maybe it was just like director and you're like nah, nah, nah.
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I need a new position with a better title.
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I did so.
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I would create programming for the city.
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So I would find an aerobics instructor or I'd find a police department and say, hey, we want to do a forensics class for kids.
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So you name the class or activity, or yoga, Tai Chi, all of it.
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Yeah, scoot up to the mic just a little bit, eric.
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I want to make sure they hear this Tai Chi stuff.
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Can you hear me now?
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Yes, okay, that's great.
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Is that better?
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That is better, okay, sorry about that.
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It's intimidating.
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It is.
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These microphones point their finger at me.
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I know it's like come on, talk to me, I want you.
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So I was in Parks and Recreation and I did that for a long time.
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I actually did it for a couple of different cities too.
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I was in Grandview and I was in Leawood and then Shawnee and then there's some other stuff I'll talk about.
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Kind of in my career journey I kind of got out and got greedy and was chasing some money and then I got back into government.
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But yeah, I created programs, activities and all that stuff.
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But what I really loved was parks and recreation is such a great job because when somebody were coming to give us money for classes or programs, they would show up with a big smile on their face.
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They were so excited.
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The kids are excited, the parents are excited, but when they had to go pay money for the city, for any other thing, it's always bad, it's for a ticket.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So we were like the fun people for the city Right on, right on, that's cool.
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Yeah, I worked for Parks and Rec too for years Johnson County oh yeah, yeah, I did the after-school daycare.
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So while I was at Northwest, my senior year, that I can juggle a soccer ball well, I'm proficient at that, because that was like the solo sport of just being able to kick and so it makes me look like I'm a lot better player than I am.
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I was just an average player, so I lost out to like one guy who was.
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For years I was like I was better.
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He only made the team because the coach dated this guy's girlfriend, which is a true story.
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Well, okay, now I could actually drop some names for fun, because it's like we know these people Well.
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You remember Matt Ireland.
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He was in your class, I loved him.
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He was my freshman coach and then as a senior varsity coach, he's the one who cut me, but understandably so.
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Matt cut you, matt, cut me, yeah, but that's hard because you make friends.
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You know, matt I mean God rest his soul Unfortunate what happened to him and it's awful, but he, you know, was just.
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Everybody loved him.
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And so it's hard to like make friends with people and then have to tell them, sorry, you're not going to make the team.
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And he let me down easy and offered to like connect me with the JUCO coach and everything.
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So he was very sweet about it, but anyway I didn't make the team that year, sorry, and you know I think everything works out.
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You know what I mean.
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Absolutely.
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And so then I went across to Benninghoven, which is right next door to Northwest, and I started working at the after-school daycare and loved that job, and loved that job.
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And then after that I moved to Broken Arrow, did it there for like seven years.
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It was the best job to have during college because you can do it like you know.
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You go away to college, you come back for spring break.
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They need you.
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You come back for summer break, they need you.
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You always have a job when you come back.
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I was a lifeguard.
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I know I was a lifeguard.
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I was shining with your park beach baby.
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It was cool.
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Did you get the orange buoys that they had?
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We had orange buoys.
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We had the lifeguard stands.
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I used to rescue people then Did you actually rescue someone as a lifeguard Rescue?
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little kids.
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Really, yeah, you'd pull them out of the water.
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It was sad because you would.
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Well, it was exciting because you're in there and you save this kid and you're pulling them out and you're carrying them.
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Yeah, and the mom or dad would always get upset.
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Well, they're upset, they're embarrassed, sure, but they would never thank you Because you're making them look bad in a way.
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Maybe, I don't know Like ah, you should be saving this kid not me, but it was an awesome job because you always had, like you said, always had something to go back to.
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Totally you go to school, come back, get an awesome tan.
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Yeah, whistle.
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Are you lifeguarding still, because the tan's looking good.
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You must have gone on vacation or something High blood pressure, high blood pressure Is that what it is?
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Oh, yeah, oh yeah, you did that on purpose, just so you could look tan.
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Right, I need a tan, but that's not healthy to get a tan.
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That's bad for your skin.
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Let me just get some high.
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Well and then, yeah, I was always tan.
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Well, because I had to get tan for my glamour shots.
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Yes, don't we all?
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Do you remember glamour shots?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, do I remember glamour shots.
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Let me get my phone.
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Let me show you my latest photo.
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I was dating a girl and she made me do it.
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Oh dude, I never heard of a dude getting a glamour shot, ever.
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I didn't know.
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It happened at my parents house.
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Uh, you could still walk into their house.
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And then there's like this little part in the living room and that they won't take the picture down.
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It's still there, still there.
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Black leather jacket uh, no shirt on that's how you dress on tuesdays.
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That's your two, I've seen you really I I want to see this glamour shot badly.
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If you could send that to me.
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You won't see it.
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Guys, Zach will put it on.
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My agent won't let me do that.
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You have to pay for that, oh my gosh.
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So you've had glamour shots done.
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That has to go in the bio, Ashley, Don't forget.
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In the description we've got to put that in.
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That's hilarious.
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I think that's why they're around anymore.
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What?
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else did your girl?
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I don't know.
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I haven't seen it for a while.
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I haven't seen it since Napoleon Dynamite.
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If somebody out there is listening or watching this and Glamour Shots is around, please let us know, because I'll start a podcast for Glamour Shots.
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Oh, dude, that is so funny, man.
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Now she made you get.
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Tell me about that.
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How did she make you it?
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Tell me about that.
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How did she make you?
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It sounds like you were a pretty easy sell, Like oh, I have to, Okay.
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When you have a tan from, you're like oh, I'm totally unprepared, okay, I'll put this on as long as I can go shirtless and wear that leather jacket.
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It's like playing Dynamite when Kip's like do you have a vest I could wear?
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You're like do you have a leather jacket?
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I could.
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And then also let's say this would have been what year was this?
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Like early 90s and back then, like the mullet was the mullet's back Dude, Dude, I like it.
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All I have to do is cut the sides and I am back in 80s fashion.
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Yeah, so like you had the, so back then it was really mostly like the soccer player haircut.
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Yeah, I know what you mean.
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But then you had this kind of some tails coming out and coming out, and so that was that was in a glamour shot.
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I can see it was it?
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I wanted that haircut so bad ever since first grade?
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my dad wouldn't let me grow out the back, he was a marine, he wouldn't let me do that, so now I'm making up for it.
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Look, look at me now.
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How do you like me?
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Now dad, I'm growing it out all over.
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Um, I don't get many compliments on my hair I'm not doing it for other people.
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Thank you, your hair looks good.
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Thanks, man, appreciate that.
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I really like it.
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I'm not doing it for other people.
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Thank you, your hair looks good dude.
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Thanks, man, appreciate that.
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I really like it.
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It's fun, I'm like, why not?
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Mine's just falling out now.
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Yeah, well, you know.
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So, dude, what else did your girlfriend make you do?
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I'm just curious.
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Glamour shots Sounds like the kind of girlfriend who's going to speechless.
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I don't know.
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I I had to.
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I try to erase that out of my head, okay.
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Would I know this person?
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Was she a cougar?
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She was a meaning.
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Cougars are the mascots.
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Cougars are the mascots of seanation northwest what's a cougar is a coug.
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This, this podcast is out of control.
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I didn't see it going this way and I like it.
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This is this.
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No, this is way better than so.
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Tell me more about economic development.
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Well, okay, man, so we go way back like that.
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But then you moved from, like, the parks and rec side of things, from the Civic Center, and you made the big jump to City Hall.
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Yeah, so now you're like moving on up.
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What were you over there?
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What long title did you possess?
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The City of Shawnee Business Liaison oh, the City of Shawnee Business Liaison.
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Oh, French Liaison.
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Is it a French position?
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I think it is.
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Is that French?
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It sounds French.
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It's not Russian.
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You made it sound.
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French Liaison.
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Liaison.
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Maybe it's Canadian, I think it's Canadian.
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Canadian.
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That's what it is, I don't know.
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Now I want a croissant Do they have those over next door.
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I don't know, that's a good word too, yeah.
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I'm just showing off now.
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They don't have ideas.
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So let's rewind a little bit.
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I've always loved and hated government.
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I just have this weird relationship with government.
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So I left college I worked for the city of Grandview, for Parks and Recreation, and then people would always tell me they're like, man, you need to be in sales, like you're really good, you're a sales guy, you're a sales guy.
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And at that time I left Grandview to go work for Intercom Radio here in Kansas City.
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They had eight radio stations and all that stuff.
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So I went and worked for 997KY Do you remember that?
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Oh, yeah, wasn't that?
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The one with the camel was the mascot?
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Okay, yeah, and so when I was at 997KY, the reason why I went there was they were going to take on the Chiefs Radio Network at that time, so it was like good timing.
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And then all of a sudden they found out that they weren't going to have the Chiefs Network, so they went back to 101 the Fox.
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Yeah, the Fox.
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All network.
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So they went back to one-on-one.
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The fox, yeah, the fox.
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All kinds of animals being thrown around cougars, foxes, camels right, were there, camels.
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Well, the ky, oh, yeah, the camel.
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The camel, no, that was a hippo.
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It was a hippo.
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It was a hippo.
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Yeah, camel would have been cool though I thought it was a camp.
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Maybe I was thinking of the cigarettes.
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I guess I was thinking about just like the coffee yeah, okay, cigarettes are next.
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Yeah, they need to go yeah, but uh so, uh.
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So I did radio sales.
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I did that for not very long.
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Honestly, it was a real tough business and the money was pretty good.
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But the problem is you're literally competing with everybody in your building Because we had all the other stations.
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Yeah, so I got out of that and then I went to Sprint and worked for Sprint Jeez dude.
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what have you not done?
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I've done everything man, and then I went to Vegas and I was one of the dancers for the reviews.
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They saw my glamour shot.
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They're like dude, you're in.
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Thunder Down Under was like.
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Whose glamour shot is this?
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Thunder Down Under like Dr Thunder.
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That's a whole other conversation.
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Dr Thunder, that's.
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Right, did you grow up on the Not to pause the sprint, the exciting sprint conversation?
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I know this is fun, though, right, this is great creative minds did you grow up in a household of dr thunder or dr pepper?
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that's really the ultimate bagged or boxed cereal we didn't eat a lot of cereal, really no, we, we ate, uh, uh, I don't know.
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They used to be like these little astronaut bars.
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They were like chocolate and they were like breakfast bars.
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Yeah, we ate those all the time it was chocolate had peanut butter in it.
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Oh, dude, I'm going to think of it before this episode's over.
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I think that's why all my hair's falling out.
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There's something in the ingredients.
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It wasn't Nesquik or it was a different thing right.
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I think it might have been Nesquik, was that it?
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I don't know, but I think I know what you're talking about.
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But we did eat a lot of sugar cereal.
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I mean, I was raised on it.
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I'm pretty sure it stunted my growth.
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That's why our brains are so fast, you know.
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Wait what.
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The synapses.
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You know the whole?
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Yeah, yeah, I do.
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Now that's a whole other podcast.
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We'll talk about that next time.
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My brain is catching up to everything you're saying.
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So I did corporate sales at Sprint, Sprint Publishing and Advertising and I did enjoy that.
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But at that time Sprint was this company, this phone company, anyway, children.
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I was there when it merged with Nextel.
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You were.
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Yeah, and then we this like double merging thing and all that.
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Well, at that time Donnelly and Sons were getting ready to come in and purchase my division, and so then I was like I'm out, I'm getting back into government.
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I went to the city of Leawood, started getting my master's degree in public administration and then I was having a meeting and then some folks at Shawnee were like, hey, we've got this position, you know.
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And I was like, man, that's perfect.
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That's why that's right Grew up.
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I know those people, I love those people.
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So I worked for a Shawnee person rec and then I was also for fun, cause I really love this city.
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I was always trying to bring companies into Shawnee.
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So I was already doing economic development on my own time and I talked to the city manager at that time and we were talking about I was talking about, you know, these companies and and we created the position, business liaison, and it was modeled after a town in Oklahoma that had one and it was really, honestly, it's the take in government there's black and white, there's all these rules, right, boom, boom, boom boom.
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But in real life, like if you're trying to build a company or a business, it's not black and white, it's very gray.
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So I would go and find the gray and then be able to work it through the city system, you know, through codes and all that stuff, the planning department, and I loved it.
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It was great.
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I did that for a year and a half and then one day, my father-in-law being the good salesman that I am, he knew that.
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He asked me if I would sell tilapia.
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This is where the tilapia, you, you have the most random eclectic background of like career endeavors ever.
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Like who knew it was going to go to fish farm, rather than the fact that I said it earlier yeah I didn't you know.
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It's like wow, tilapia yeah, forrest gump man that is.
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That is the chapter of your life that I missed somehow because we got reconnected and you said fish farming.
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I was like I didn't even know.
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You left and did anything, you know so a fish farm I was.
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I sold our tilapia to whole food stores all over the country, cruise ships, all that stuff.
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We started out in a couple of grocery stores in Colorado and I just went in.
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I call it reverse marketing.
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Well, now it's.
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I don't even know what they call it now, but it was going out to the stores and talking to customers and then the customers would go to the meat counter and say why aren't you selling this fish?
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I call that manipulation.
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It's a good salesperson.
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It is, that's good stuff.
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So I would do that, and then bloggers before I'd go into a market, they'd start talking about our culture, and sorry, that reminds me that's brilliant telling the customer hey, go ask for this meat, so they'll come to me.
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That's like how music artists say hey, go to your radio station and request my song.
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Same kind of thing right, yeah, yeah, and then, once they get requested, yeah.
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I think that's how that band Mercy Me with the song I Can Only Imagine did it.
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Really Like hey, request our song.
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And they'd go to their concerts.
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They'd say everybody call your radio station.
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So then they started.
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Even though it was a Christian song, they, everyone was calling those stations requesting those songs.
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So reverse marketing.
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I suppose I taught him how to do that yeah, you did.
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No, I know you're like let me yeah let me tell you how this works.
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Buddy well, so I I did the tilapia farming and I loved it, I really did.
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But um, I I did that for it was about six years and um.
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So the city shawnee was looking for economic development person like in this position and I had talked to some folks and they had mentioned that maybe it'd be a good idea.
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If I came back and I met with Ann Smith-Tate she was the president and CEO of the chamber.
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Yes, just met her.
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Yeah, and so when I sat down and had a coffee with her and one of the city managers just talking about Shawnee, when I saw the new energy, I was super excited, like I thought, man, this, this is awesome, like this city needs this, like Shawnee is in a really good spot I'm talking geographically, I'm talking we set the most northern part of Johnson County and with all the stuff going on now in downtown Kansas City, you know, light 1, Light 2, is there Light 10?
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All these new apartments.
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It's like Jaws, they just keep going, they just keep going.
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Or Rocky, it's like Rocky yeah.
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Or Star Wars, I guess, but that's all.
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Yeah, that's so confusing.
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I know I wish I liked it.
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I don't think Kansas City enough for that.
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I'm not cool enough to understand star wars, but um so never heard someone say that yeah, I'm really not cool enough to understand star wars.
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I'm just not I, but uh, so yeah.
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So I mean we sit right there.
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In fact there are some chiefs players that now live in our downtown shawnee, because I I don't know about you, but if I had a dog and I lived in an apartment in downtown kansas city and I wanted to take my dog for a walk or to go to the bathroom, I don't want to have to get in an elevator, ride the elevator downstairs and go walk out to the doggy area.
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I want to go in my backyard.
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So I think Shawnee's great.
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You've got the elbow room that you need if you want to live that lifestyle in kind of a downtown area.
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Our downtown Shawnee is rocking man.
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It lifestyle and kind of a downtown area.
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Our downtown, shawnee, is rocking man.
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It is beautiful down there.
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I mean, I grew up, we grew up in a duplex on I think it was King Street, which is really close to St Joseph School, and it was a duplex there.
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So we lived.
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I lived there like when I was a year old, and then we moved but my dad owned the duplex, rented it out to some tenants next to us.
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We became good friends with these people, the layman's and, um, layman's yeah, you know that family yeah, and um, and so I have, and so I got my first haircut there on, down there on johnson drive, which is essentially main street of downtown shawnee, back when it was dave and bob.
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I don't know if you remember dave and bob or if you ever went in there, but uh was it gentleman's west?
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was that the name of it?
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I know what you're talking about.
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I think that's what it is.
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Well, is that what it is now?
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I don't know what it was called back then.
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I don't know if I knew the name.
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No, I thought it was right across the street from City Hall.
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Yeah, that's right.
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There's still a barbershop there, yeah, and I've seen they've kind.
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It is a beautiful downtown area so if you remember as a kid?
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I mean, we were really overlooked for quite a while.
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Our downtown, at 5 o'clock, lights out.
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Baby, it's closed, Business is closed, and so now we've got reasons for people to go out, we have a James A Beard award recipient or nominee or whatever runner-up.
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I don't know how that goes, but yeah, you'd look at this list.
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It would say like James A Beard, and they would say Honolulu and and somewhere in California and New York, not Shawnee.
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Kansas.
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It was awesome yeah it was.
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It's really cool, but we've got some really cool stuff going on.
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We've got a McLean's down there.
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Mclean's is down there.
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It's amazing.
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There's some other stuff.
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Yeah, that's a hot place.
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And then also we've got a new bar and restaurant that's going to be moving into the old garage across the street from City Hall.
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Oh wait, so it was an old auto body or auto shop Wait to the west, to the east, to the east of City Hall.
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Okay, yeah.
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Over there by that leather Right.
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Yes, that booth store or whatever.
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They moved around the corner, though they did they moved around the corner, because now on that corner it's called Wild Child.
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It's kind of like a wine bar and it has non-alcoholic drinks there too.
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But it's also an award-winning—I think it was like Best in Johnson County and there are awards popping up everywhere down there.
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Yeah.
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That's amazing, man, and you're a big part of, I mean, you're the economic development, right yeah we've been.
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Yes, and when I first came back, they were trying to redevelop downtown Shawnee and they called it Elaine Diet, not Elaine.
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It sounded like I said Elaine's name, elaine.
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Diet Right right.
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It's Elaine Diet where it was.
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I think we got something there with the elaine diet.
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There's got to be some elaine out there who's crushing it, who we could just name a diet.
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Quick, I know quick, it's that buy thatcom right now yeah, all right, seriously, yeah, uh, but anyhow, no, it's just, it's fun to be a part of that.
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I mean, it really is to be a part of that.
00:25:48.268 --> 00:25:54.041
And when they were doing the lane diet and a lot of people were upset about it, they're like, oh, this isn't going to work, and but what that did?
00:25:54.041 --> 00:26:07.189
Was it allowed, uh, the, the prop, the development, to come more toward the street, so it gives you a downtown feeling okay and lane diet a lane diet meaning like four lanes.
00:26:07.269 --> 00:26:09.239
Yeah to basically two lanes.
00:26:09.259 --> 00:26:17.704
Yeah, I've noticed that with the one turn lane down the middle yes, yes, so smart Because the traffic isn't so crazy that you need those four lanes, you don't need them.
00:26:17.765 --> 00:26:19.421
And also when you have the four lanes.
00:26:19.421 --> 00:26:23.278
What a lot of people didn't realize is that they were like well, that's going to slow everything down.
00:26:23.278 --> 00:26:30.967
Well, no, because if you had a car in the left lane, a car in the right lane, the right lane guy was going to turn and the left lane person was going to turn.
00:26:30.967 --> 00:26:33.553
Well, now your traffic is really backed up.
00:26:33.553 --> 00:26:38.981
Yeah, yes, so now that turn lane really has helped out, the flow goes just fine.
00:26:39.674 --> 00:26:43.846
I call that reverse traffic engineering.
00:26:43.846 --> 00:26:45.929
I've always called it that I like that.
00:26:45.929 --> 00:26:48.394
Yeah, yeah, or manipulation, whichever you want to call it.
00:26:48.394 --> 00:26:50.974
I like the reverse traffic engineering.
00:26:51.035 --> 00:26:53.363
Manipulation sounds so evil, I know, I know.
00:26:53.723 --> 00:26:54.566
I know, I know.
00:26:55.067 --> 00:26:55.670
I get it though.
00:26:56.573 --> 00:26:57.154
This is fascinating.
00:26:57.154 --> 00:27:02.943
Keep going, because I want you to keep going, but also I want to hear about what does it take for someone like you?
00:27:02.943 --> 00:27:03.925
How do you create that?
00:27:03.925 --> 00:27:05.320
Because you've helped make this happen.
00:27:06.115 --> 00:27:10.386
I'm a part of it, but also people that are the city staff.
00:27:10.386 --> 00:27:11.857
I mean city staff.
00:27:11.857 --> 00:27:17.259
But we go out and you're storytelling, okay.
00:27:17.259 --> 00:27:29.099
So when we were first showing companies and restaurants in downtown Shawnee, when nothing was really down there, you had a storytell and you're not making stuff up, you're being very honest.
00:27:29.099 --> 00:27:39.259
It's like the thing I was telling you about hey Power and Light's awesome, guess what Crossroads is awesome, but all their rents are going up and a lot of Johnson County and go there to hang out.
00:27:39.259 --> 00:27:42.970
Well, why not have something right here in Johnson County?
00:27:42.970 --> 00:27:49.345
Not only that, but people that live in the crossroads will come over here too, and so just storytelling.
00:27:50.106 --> 00:27:55.824
And so did that encourage the current owners to step up their game and make renovations, yeah, okay.
00:27:55.943 --> 00:27:59.837
Yeah, if you remember, there used to be a bunch of black glass Totally On a corner.
00:27:59.857 --> 00:28:01.104
Totally Commerce Bank.
00:28:01.104 --> 00:28:03.634
Yeah, shawnee State Bank before that, right, shawnee State Bank.
00:28:05.659 --> 00:28:06.500
Got my first check there.
00:28:06.500 --> 00:28:09.727
Nice yeah, and the guy had the little Huey stick.
00:28:10.127 --> 00:28:12.277
Okay, so rough cut there because we had to change batteries.
00:28:12.277 --> 00:28:13.499
But Huey what, what?
00:28:13.499 --> 00:28:14.661
What's this hooey stick thing?
00:28:14.981 --> 00:28:15.082
uh.
00:28:15.082 --> 00:28:21.819
So when I got my first check, my mom took me up to shawnee state bank was this lifeguarding check?
00:28:21.819 --> 00:28:23.423
No, it was.
00:28:23.423 --> 00:28:27.559
They were like hey, it's probably a good idea that you started checking account.
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:28.741
Yeah, like just to be a.
00:28:28.741 --> 00:28:31.635
You know, it's time in life yeah, yeah, you're a man.
00:28:31.655 --> 00:28:31.936
Now I'm a man.
00:28:31.936 --> 00:28:32.097
12.
00:28:32.097 --> 00:28:32.619
Yeah, it's time to start a.
00:28:32.619 --> 00:28:33.102
Yeah, yeah, you're a man.
00:28:33.102 --> 00:28:33.523
Now I'm a man.
00:28:33.523 --> 00:28:34.890
Yeah, it's time to start a checking account.
00:28:34.890 --> 00:28:35.733
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:36.234 --> 00:28:39.285
So maybe there's some money laundering going on, I don't know.
00:28:39.285 --> 00:28:41.121
Anyway, no, I'm just joking.
00:28:41.121 --> 00:29:04.115
Mom and Dad, my Mom and Dad are awesome, no, so I'm sitting in there in this old bank building Shawnee State Bank and the guy he was the nicest guy, he was all you know he knew I was nervous, you know, like there's all these numbers and I have to fill out little forms, you know, and he brings out this stick and it's two sticks, and one stick had a propeller on the end of it.
00:29:04.115 --> 00:29:05.380
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:29:05.380 --> 00:29:07.923
And he goes have you ever seen a hooey stick?
00:29:07.923 --> 00:29:12.305
And this like kind of calmed me down, like you know, just kind of like oh, what is that?
00:29:12.765 --> 00:29:16.911
Yeah, and so he would rub this stick really fast and then the propeller would start spinning.
00:29:16.911 --> 00:29:20.778
Yeah, and then he would say hooey, and then it would spin the opposite direction.
00:29:20.778 --> 00:29:23.866
Hmm, yeah, you know what?
00:29:23.866 --> 00:29:28.026
After this is over, I'm going to Google hooey sticks.
00:29:28.315 --> 00:29:36.669
And try to figure out how that works and just if there's even but I remember those, I mean I've seen you do okay so he wasn't like a witch doctor no, well, how does it flip the other way?
00:29:36.749 --> 00:29:41.665
I have, you think, the magician would be like oh yeah I know he gave me one, like he had a hooey stick.
00:29:41.665 --> 00:29:46.044
He gave it to me and I could never figure it out weird yeah, so, okay, I see.
00:29:46.084 --> 00:29:48.176
So he made it seem like the word hooey, reversed it.
00:29:48.196 --> 00:29:58.241
This is the magician thinking yeah there was some trick, that yeah, yeah there was no buttons it was a stick right propeller and it was like the propeller was nailed in by a little.
00:29:58.241 --> 00:30:15.396
Yeah, nail yeah I don't know but this hooey stick nonetheless mesmerized you, relaxed you and helped transition you into manhood yeah, in terms of a checking account yeah, that's amazing, like how you can get somebody to kind of you kind of shift their focus I yeah, I've done the same kind of thing.
00:30:15.416 --> 00:30:20.340
I used to have these when I was doing kids magic shows, these pencils that you would rub them and they would change color.
00:30:20.340 --> 00:30:26.521
So I would carry those with me and sometimes in airports when there's kids just like crying, I'd tell the parents, hey, can I give them a gift?
00:30:26.521 --> 00:30:34.827
And I would just show them and they'd be like immediately calm down and take that pencil and rub it and it changed colors and changed someone's life, man, you know.
00:30:35.088 --> 00:30:35.589
I like it.
00:30:35.674 --> 00:30:36.660
It was my hooey stick.
00:30:36.934 --> 00:30:39.241
So this sick thing inside of my head was like.
00:30:39.241 --> 00:30:42.079
And then the kid walked away and they had stuff all over their hands.
00:30:42.140 --> 00:30:44.621
Oh right, right, you got glitter bombed.
00:30:44.621 --> 00:30:46.959
You thought it was a color changing pencil.
00:30:47.098 --> 00:30:51.769
It was a good story, though no, like it's Friday guys.
00:30:51.808 --> 00:30:51.848
It.
00:30:51.848 --> 00:30:52.710
It's Friday guys, it is Friday.
00:30:52.710 --> 00:30:53.490
This is so good man.
00:30:53.490 --> 00:30:56.592
When the battery went out, we were talking about how much fun we're having.
00:30:56.592 --> 00:30:59.015
This is a lot of fun, so, yeah, keep going, though.
00:30:59.055 --> 00:31:06.057
Okay so before I talked about the Huey stick and all that, yes, it was Shawnee State Bank, yes, and it was covered in black glass.
00:31:06.117 --> 00:31:21.903
And you know, back in the late 60s, you know 70s, that was kind of the thing yeah, you could see those windows all the way from shawna mission parkway, which is a good, would you say, like a mile away from there and it's like you could yeah, you really popped, so it was a landmark the owner of the building.
00:31:22.484 --> 00:31:23.527
Uh, he's a great guy.
00:31:23.527 --> 00:31:36.144
Um, he, I think you know, when we went in and talked to him and kind of talked about what was going on downtown and you know all that, I think you know, his spirits turned up and he was like ready to make some changes.
00:31:36.144 --> 00:31:37.788
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna be a part of this.
00:31:37.788 --> 00:31:48.441
Yeah, and you know, and, and so you see it happening in all of in downtown shawnee, as we're redeveloping and doing all the work we're doing, you start seeing like this energy happening.
00:31:48.461 --> 00:31:51.537
Yes, it's snowballing in a great totally I can vouch for it.
00:31:51.537 --> 00:32:02.682
Well, here's what's funny sometimes when I'm coming home from like a trip, like I'll have a keynote up in Iowa and I drive I-35, and I can either take Shawn Mission Parkway home or I can take Johnson Drive home.
00:32:02.682 --> 00:32:08.858
I love taking Johnson Drive home because it's just more of this relaxed like I love driving through downtown Shawnee.
00:32:08.858 --> 00:32:12.665
It takes a little bit longer because it's, you know, like 35 miles an hour instead of 45.
00:32:12.665 --> 00:32:15.349
But I just love that stretch.
00:32:15.454 --> 00:32:21.319
It's not 65 miles an hour, no, it's a good stretch.
00:32:21.540 --> 00:32:23.982
Yeah, well, and part of it's because, like I have history there.
00:32:23.982 --> 00:32:25.340
I got my first haircut there.
00:32:25.340 --> 00:32:31.657
Yeah, I learned to swim at the old pool, but I just it really is, especially now with what you guys are doing down there.
00:32:31.657 --> 00:32:34.381
It looks great and it's a fun hang.
00:32:34.381 --> 00:32:48.155
People go to McLean's for coffee now, and then the bank for a while became kind of a coffee shop slash bakery, but now it's like some kind of meat, don't they?
00:32:48.276 --> 00:32:49.577
distribute meat like a meat company or something.
00:32:49.597 --> 00:32:50.380
I've lost track.
00:32:50.380 --> 00:32:51.301
They did for a while.
00:32:51.301 --> 00:32:52.785
Back me up here.
00:32:52.785 --> 00:32:53.566
Dodge City Beef.
00:32:53.566 --> 00:32:55.250
Okay, that was it.
00:32:55.535 --> 00:32:56.277
Dodge City Beef, and that was part of.
00:32:56.277 --> 00:32:59.486
The problem is that the owner of the building had a great idea.
00:32:59.654 --> 00:33:10.268
He's like okay, I'll kind of subdivide this building and I'll have a meat shop over here a coffee shop over here and when I talked to him I was like, hey, you need one good user in here.
00:33:10.268 --> 00:33:17.317
So I went out and actually met with uh.
00:33:17.317 --> 00:33:20.743
When, when uh, we were talking to companies and businesses, I reached out to uh district poorhouse.
00:33:20.743 --> 00:33:29.640
They were over in waldo and uh, at that time I wasn't trying to, I wouldn't, I was like I didn't think they would want to move the whole company over.
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:56.127
But they had this concept called johnny wings and uh, one of the chefs in there, it was like a ghost kitchen thing, it was pretty, it was almost covid and um, so I met, I met with them and kind of walked them around, talked about shawnee, and then we walked inside of that building so there was a, there was a little taco shop in there, so we walked in there and when he saw the exposed rock, um saw that he, he was like he, he was like I'm coming here Nice.
00:33:57.336 --> 00:33:58.803
The exposed rock is beautiful.
00:33:58.803 --> 00:34:05.065
It's got that whole kind of I don't know just that, what's the word Like vintage or I don't know.
00:34:05.154 --> 00:34:06.093
It was like je ne sais quoi.
00:34:06.596 --> 00:34:07.780
The French thing is coming back.
00:34:07.780 --> 00:34:10.860
Yeah, just that rugged.
00:34:10.860 --> 00:34:13.362
That's the word, just that rugged downtown.
00:34:13.362 --> 00:34:16.224
You know, it just does have that cool vibe.
00:34:16.715 --> 00:34:18.643
So in my mind.
00:34:18.643 --> 00:34:23.554
So you can go anywhere in Johnson County, right, and you can go to restaurants, coffee shops, all that fun stuff.
00:34:23.554 --> 00:34:26.322
But you end up showing up and it's all sheetrock.
00:34:26.322 --> 00:34:27.945
Yep, it's a box.
00:34:27.945 --> 00:34:31.280
It's a box, it might have a couple of cool track light stuff and all that.
00:34:31.300 --> 00:34:36.422
If it's a Chipotle, you've got some industrial piping going on but that's as good as it gets.
00:34:36.463 --> 00:34:38.231
I'll tell you my Chipotle theory here in a minute.
00:34:39.195 --> 00:34:40.018
It doesn't sound good.
00:34:40.018 --> 00:34:41.143
No, no it's okay.
00:34:41.163 --> 00:34:42.675
It's okay, it's get in, get out, right.
00:34:42.675 --> 00:34:43.016
You know that.
00:34:43.016 --> 00:34:43.356
Oh yeah.
00:34:43.356 --> 00:34:48.860
Yeah, I don't want you to be uncomfortable, but they're not a sponsor either.
00:34:48.900 --> 00:34:53.125
I do love Chipotle and if you want to sponsor me Chipotle, I will take you.
00:34:53.125 --> 00:34:55.387
Oh man, you can just give me free burritos.
00:34:56.387 --> 00:34:57.349
I lost my train of thought.
00:34:58.030 --> 00:34:58.590
The Rock.
00:34:58.590 --> 00:35:00.952
And it's not just a box, it's rugged.
00:35:00.952 --> 00:35:02.826
He wanted to come and land there.
00:35:02.847 --> 00:35:03.394
Yeah, so it's super organic.
00:35:03.394 --> 00:35:07.887
So that original bank it was the late 1800s.
00:35:07.887 --> 00:35:09.956
There was so much history in downtown Shawnee.
00:35:09.956 --> 00:35:18.668
So when you go into these buildings, yeah, it's warm, it's comfortable, it's organic you get this sense of just kind of coziness.
00:35:18.668 --> 00:35:21.943
When you see the rock, yes, you see some of the old wood, the rock.
00:35:22.835 --> 00:35:23.717
You're speaking my language.
00:35:23.717 --> 00:35:24.701
I love that vibe.
00:35:24.701 --> 00:35:25.483
It's so good.
00:35:25.483 --> 00:35:26.266
Yeah, it's so good.
00:35:26.474 --> 00:35:30.963
But anyway, I think that's what's really made our downtown, shawnee, unique.
00:35:30.963 --> 00:35:39.594
Yeah, so a lot of other places in Johnson County which Johnson County is great, but you don't get that experience in a lot of places.
00:35:39.594 --> 00:35:41.481
So, yeah, we're celebrating it, man.
00:35:42.355 --> 00:35:43.722
Well with what you do.
00:35:43.722 --> 00:35:52.902
I can't think of a better person to be in your position, because this whole just building a city up, and especially the downtown with what you've done with it requires the possibility mindset.
00:35:52.902 --> 00:36:04.581
You are constantly, every day, asking what else is possible, what's possible with this space, with these people, with these owners, with these members, and then you're a visionary, which is what the possibility mindset is all about.
00:36:04.581 --> 00:36:16.643
You're the visionary, but then you have the people, skills and the knowledge and the experience you know to be able to go out, approach the right people in the right way with the right information and pull.
00:36:16.643 --> 00:36:22.643
And it's not just fluff, it's like this is how this is going to benefit people and it's tried and true, like it's paying off.
00:36:22.643 --> 00:36:24.277
You have transformed that space down there.
00:36:24.277 --> 00:36:25.318
I know you're a part of it.
00:36:25.318 --> 00:36:35.498
It takes a team, but you're doing an incredible job man and it's they're lucky to have you.
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:36.907
It's fun, I love it, I love the city, I love the people in the city.
00:36:36.907 --> 00:36:37.188
Yeah, it's fun.
00:36:37.188 --> 00:36:38.313
Thank you, that's nice stuff you said about it.
00:36:38.333 --> 00:36:55.583
Well, yeah, and what would you say to then people because there's other city development type people at liaisons, whatever you want to call it out there, who are no doubt inspired already by the things that you're saying, just like, how can you really take the true essence of what a place is and build off of that, right, like you do with the Rock and the Wood?
00:36:55.583 --> 00:37:13.449
But then there's also, like other CEOs, other managers, directors what would you tell them for, just if they want to like, change the work, culture, change what they have going on, how does this translate to kind of like everything Translate.
00:37:15.755 --> 00:37:17.121
I think at the end of the day, and you probably saw it.
00:37:17.141 --> 00:37:17.603
We did this today.
00:37:17.623 --> 00:37:26.931
We did this right now it's called having fun and I always tell people I'm like, if I ever go into a job and I'm I'm not having fun anymore, like I to me.
00:37:26.931 --> 00:37:29.117
If you're not having fun, move on.
00:37:29.557 --> 00:37:30.701
Like it's time to move on.
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:41.764
Find something that you can get excited about waking up and doing, and I think if, if managers and companies, and I think if they had that mentality.
00:37:41.764 --> 00:37:42.929
I think people get so stuck in being very serious.
00:37:42.929 --> 00:37:43.952
They think serious means good business.
00:37:44.193 --> 00:37:54.686
Right, yeah, but the way I look at life is, if you can get somebody to relax and you, you build some commonality with somebody and you have fun with them, you're going to get stuff done.
00:37:54.686 --> 00:37:58.764
Fun doesn't mean goofing off Totally, totally.
00:37:58.764 --> 00:38:05.902
So I think it gets misinterpreted in a lot of workplaces and it always will be.
00:38:05.902 --> 00:38:08.583
You can't make people have fun.
00:38:08.583 --> 00:38:16.625
I remember I don't want to name the company, I named a bunch of them that I worked for, but there was one where they had mandatory fun.
00:38:16.824 --> 00:38:19.619
They didn't call it that have fun dang it.
00:38:19.894 --> 00:38:22.063
Okay, everybody, it's time to come out and have fun.
00:38:22.063 --> 00:38:28.425
You're like, ah, and you go in there and like, okay, how long do we have to have fun now?
00:38:29.635 --> 00:38:30.922
You can't compartmentalize fun.
00:38:30.922 --> 00:38:33.704
You've got to make it a culture, a way of being.
00:38:35.775 --> 00:38:44.025
And then there was this one where we'd sit in a meeting and they're like they're trying to make the meetings more connecting with the employees, and we sat around this table and this is terrible.
00:38:44.025 --> 00:38:46.043
They're not going to be listening, I'm sure.
00:38:47.335 --> 00:38:48.581
Because I have a tiny audience.
00:38:48.581 --> 00:38:49.956
Thank you, Eric, for pointing that out.
00:38:49.956 --> 00:38:52.240
She would say here we go, no, no, I'm so sorry for pointing that out.
00:38:52.240 --> 00:38:52.762
She would go no, no, Nah.
00:38:52.782 --> 00:38:53.202
I'm messing with you.
00:38:53.202 --> 00:39:04.802
I don't think she would, but she would sit there and she would say, okay, tell us about your weekend and celebrate.
00:39:04.802 --> 00:39:12.472
And I'm like I sound more enthusiastic than what, but she was for real man, she was like like that's not how you do it.
00:39:13.806 --> 00:39:16.452
If the leader can't model it, it's never going to happen.
00:39:16.452 --> 00:39:22.012
Yeah, you know what I mean, cause if you're not and that's the great thing about you, I mean it's just, it's contagious man.
00:39:22.012 --> 00:39:28.096
Yeah, just your, your fun, your ability to joke, but then the fact that you can also get things done, and that's what's important.
00:39:28.096 --> 00:39:29.518
Like you say, it's not just goofing off.
00:39:29.518 --> 00:39:34.532
You're a man who ultimately, at the end of the day, delivers and brings it to the bottom line.
00:39:34.532 --> 00:39:48.405
But the fun is a huge part of just being able to let people connect with people, let them relax, because then the creative juices start to flow more, the ideas come easier, and so, yeah, fun, I mean that's a great answer.
00:39:48.405 --> 00:39:53.608
Just make fun part of the culture, make it natural, but let it lead toward productivity.
00:39:54.088 --> 00:39:55.409
That's ultimately what it can serve.
00:39:55.971 --> 00:40:01.914
You get to know people, people you work in life and work and everything.
00:40:01.914 --> 00:40:09.119
But if you don't know somebody very well, you're never going to be your real self and then you're never going to really share your real thoughts with somebody.
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.802
But if you are having fun and they relax we were talking about relaxing, yeah.
00:40:13.842 --> 00:40:14.682
Who we stick.
00:40:14.682 --> 00:40:15.563
Who we stick baby.
00:40:15.945 --> 00:40:21.677
You bring somebody down to this other level where they just feel comfortable.
00:40:21.677 --> 00:40:26.010
And when you're comfortable you share things, you share ideas better.
00:40:26.010 --> 00:40:28.702
You're not afraid to throw a stupid idea out there.
00:40:28.702 --> 00:40:30.449
Yeah, I said stupid idea.
00:40:31.144 --> 00:40:33.650
Well, we'll edit that word out.
00:40:33.650 --> 00:40:35.655
I call it start ugly.
00:40:35.655 --> 00:40:36.617
I just call it.
00:40:36.617 --> 00:40:40.713
It's not sloppy, it's not careless, it's just like let's just get out there and get crazy.
00:40:40.893 --> 00:40:44.128
Yeah, don't be afraid to mess up, let's just, let's talk about all the ideas.
00:40:44.128 --> 00:40:45.829
So I love that man, I love that so.
00:40:46.271 --> 00:40:47.353
so what's the next for Shawneenee?
00:40:47.353 --> 00:40:49.175
What's your big undertaking right now?
00:40:49.255 --> 00:40:49.556
there's.
00:40:49.556 --> 00:41:04.166
You know there's a lot because I I work with, uh, so I do anything from large industrial projects like trying to get some of our industrial things set up and and going um, and it took to our smaller businesses in downtown.
00:41:04.166 --> 00:41:06.333
Um, there was a lot.
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I mean, there's a lot going on.
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Um, we're kind of hitting this weird the economy.
00:41:11.432 --> 00:41:12.338
Of course, course, right.
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Like, people are going to sit on their wallets they always do right before a national election.
00:41:16.452 --> 00:41:25.067
Everybody just sits and waits, sure, and so I would say it'll slow down a little bit, probably in October and then after the election.
00:41:25.067 --> 00:41:27.650
I don't think it's going to matter who really wins.
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I have one person in mind I'd like to win, but I won't share that.
00:41:32.976 --> 00:41:46.804
But at the end of the day, once that election happens, I think all these companies are just waiting, waiting, waiting, and I think that they'll pull the trigger going a few months into the year.
00:41:46.804 --> 00:41:48.202
So I think we'll see some good economic activity.
00:41:48.150 --> 00:41:49.202
But, yeah, shawnee's bright man, we're excited.
00:41:49.202 --> 00:41:49.492
Months into the year, I think a lot.
00:41:49.492 --> 00:41:50.471
So I think we'll see some good economic activity.
00:41:50.471 --> 00:41:53.039
Um, but yeah, sean, I mean shawnee's bright man, we, we're excited.
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.601
Um, we have some new leadership at city hall.
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Uh, we have a new city manager that just started a few weeks ago and I think he's going to do an awesome job.
00:42:00.826 --> 00:42:10.094
I mean, he seems like a good guy, um, and just the staff in general, um, I love working with him, so I I I feel really good about where Shawnee is going.
00:42:10.114 --> 00:42:10.576
I really do.
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It's amazing.
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I mean shout out to Amos Funeral Home downtown Shawnee Pegas, which used to be Stern's.
00:42:15.592 --> 00:42:18.153
That was a regular for us Stern's.
00:42:18.153 --> 00:42:22.414
I mean we were there once or twice a week and actually got to come speak recently for the chamber.
00:42:22.414 --> 00:42:24.106
You had me come talk.
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That was a good time.
00:42:25.608 --> 00:42:26.288
It was awesome.
00:42:26.288 --> 00:42:29.690
You did a great job and we were talking about having fun.
00:42:30.032 --> 00:42:30.231
Yeah.
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It wasn't just one of those oh, here's the information and here's the.
00:42:34.175 --> 00:42:39.501
Yeah, you made it fun and then people were engaged and we need to do those more often.
00:42:39.501 --> 00:42:41.181
But, yeah, awesome job Thanks.
00:42:43.945 --> 00:42:45.347
And it was fun reconnecting with people I hadn't seen in years.
00:42:45.347 --> 00:42:47.753
You know, that's the cool thing about speaking in your hometown, oh yeah speaking in your hometown.
00:42:47.773 --> 00:42:58.577
Oh yeah, so well, we can't wrap without at least mentioning this and if whatever of it you want to share, just this last May you were recognized by the Lee Summit Police Department.
00:42:58.577 --> 00:43:01.065
Another shout out to my cousin, lance, who was with the Lee Summit Police Department.
00:43:01.065 --> 00:43:05.519
His entire career was a sergeant, retired back in I think it was 2020.
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:12.106
And anyway, but you were recognized by the Lee summit police department with a letter of commendation.
00:43:12.106 --> 00:43:16.295
Uh, when I was practicing that, I said condemnation and we laughed.
00:43:16.295 --> 00:43:19.548
Uh, it was a letter of commendation for bravery.
00:43:19.548 --> 00:43:21.713
So do you want to just tell us what happened?
00:43:21.713 --> 00:43:22.476
Why did you get this?
00:43:22.476 --> 00:43:24.367
Uh, this letter for bravery?
00:43:24.748 --> 00:43:25.309
yeah, it was.
00:43:25.309 --> 00:43:26.670
Uh, it was crazy.
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So it was was in December.
00:43:28.273 --> 00:43:34.974
I was bringing my boys home from basketball practice and it's crazy.
00:43:34.974 --> 00:43:42.302
So there's a roundabout on the way home and there's a home over there that plays Christmas music to the lights.
00:43:42.463 --> 00:43:44.773
Oh, yeah, yeah, so you tune in your little radio station.
00:43:45.105 --> 00:43:48.911
Well, we go through the roundabout and they're like oh Daddy, go one more time.
00:43:48.911 --> 00:43:49.695
There were no cars.
00:43:49.695 --> 00:43:56.034
So I went back through and then there were no cars, like guys, you want to go again, yeah, yeah.
00:43:56.034 --> 00:44:00.036
So we went back around and then we started heading home.
00:44:00.144 --> 00:44:05.838
Well, when we got up to this other intersection, I came upon this accident, terrible accident.
00:44:05.838 --> 00:44:17.565
The guy, I think, was speeding or something, I don't know exactly the whole story before it, but he, he, he ends up hitting a car and he lands, he hits a tree and this engine's buckled up.
00:44:17.565 --> 00:44:22.896
Uh, he's stuck in the car, he's unconscious, um, uh.
00:44:22.896 --> 00:44:26.210
So he got the doors open and this young man came out of nowhere.
00:44:26.210 --> 00:44:34.456
16 year old kid lives in the neighborhood, came up and neighbors are throwing fire extinguishers over the fence because this thing's starting to just go ablaze.
00:44:34.456 --> 00:44:44.456
And these neighbors were throwing their kitchen extinguishers over the fence and we were grabbing them and trying to put them out, waiting for the police and fire to show up.
00:44:44.525 --> 00:44:57.201
You know, I was always taught if there's a pretty bad accident and he was stuck in there, if there's a pretty bad accident and he was stuck in there, but you try not to pull him out, because you could really make things worse, spinal, you know Sure.
00:44:57.201 --> 00:45:03.907
So we kept this fire.
00:45:03.907 --> 00:45:07.416
This young man and I kept this fire at bay, just enough time for the police officer shows up.
00:45:07.416 --> 00:45:10.693
I get his extinguisher and I'm putting it out.
00:45:10.693 --> 00:45:14.496
The fire truck gets there and they get him out of the car.
00:45:14.496 --> 00:45:19.574
But it was wild and my kids had to sit and watch the whole show.
00:45:19.574 --> 00:45:26.717
But at the end of the day, the guy that was in the accident, he survived, he's alive.
00:45:26.717 --> 00:45:33.057
I haven't met him, but I got to meet the police officers that I worked with that night.
00:45:33.057 --> 00:45:35.273
I met them during the celebration.
00:45:35.273 --> 00:45:38.434
I got to see the young man again, give him a huge hug.
00:45:38.434 --> 00:45:39.871
I've talked to him on the phone a couple times.
00:45:40.126 --> 00:45:41.130
He's a great, great kid.
00:45:42.206 --> 00:45:43.090
But yeah, it was wild.
00:45:43.090 --> 00:45:44.885
Yeah, I didn't know you were going to bring that up.
00:45:44.927 --> 00:45:45.867
Yeah, Way to go.
00:45:45.867 --> 00:45:47.628
Congratulations, that's awesome.
00:45:47.628 --> 00:45:47.989
Thank you.
00:45:48.811 --> 00:45:51.974
Hey, I don't think there's any other choice right.
00:45:51.974 --> 00:45:55.117
I would never drive past something like that, yeah wow.
00:45:55.418 --> 00:45:59.041
Well, I imagined that like was the Christmas music, still playing for your kids.
00:45:59.121 --> 00:46:03.744
No, they're watching this to jingle bells like Dashie through the snow and you're like in a faxing picture.
00:46:03.744 --> 00:46:05.190
Are they forever hating Christmas now?
00:46:10.405 --> 00:46:11.391
No, we were far enough away from that property.
00:46:11.391 --> 00:46:11.853
Yeah, wow, that's wild.
00:46:11.853 --> 00:46:13.664
Well, you're the second guest in a row we've had that has pulled someone from a fire.
00:46:13.664 --> 00:46:15.431
You heard the end of Chad's story.
00:46:15.431 --> 00:46:17.032
I'm like we didn't plan it this way.
00:46:17.032 --> 00:46:19.052
We just got a bunch of heroes in the podcast here.
00:46:19.152 --> 00:46:20.489
Yeah, so this is great, man.
00:46:20.489 --> 00:46:22.788
It's going to be like a fire theme or something it is.
00:46:22.847 --> 00:46:23.929
We've got to find more people.
00:46:23.929 --> 00:46:26.614
Did that person pull a person from a fire?
00:46:26.653 --> 00:46:27.315
What did you do?
00:46:27.315 --> 00:46:28.317
Yeah, yeah, what have?
00:46:28.356 --> 00:46:29.358
you done with your life?
00:46:29.699 --> 00:46:29.940
Yeah, Next.
00:46:29.940 --> 00:46:31.041
Oh, my gosh dude.
00:46:31.304 --> 00:46:32.471
This is next.
00:46:32.471 --> 00:46:33.695
This has been a blast man.
00:46:33.737 --> 00:46:34.706
Thank you so much, hey.
00:46:34.706 --> 00:46:37.253
Thanks for letting it go all over, yeah.
00:46:37.273 --> 00:46:37.853
That's the best.
00:46:37.873 --> 00:46:39.177
Yeah, it was fun man.
00:46:39.565 --> 00:46:41.072
Yeah, that's the best way to do it.
00:46:41.072 --> 00:46:55.711
I mean, and mushroom like, like a mushroom, a fun guy, get it all right.
00:46:55.731 --> 00:46:56.996
Dad jokes sorry it took me like a few seconds, but yeah, that was.
00:46:56.996 --> 00:46:57.498
That was awesome, is it a?
00:46:57.518 --> 00:46:57.920
mushroom a fun guy.
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.333
I very appreciate dad jokes, so I appreciate the fun guy thing man do.
00:47:01.333 --> 00:47:02.838
Well, hey, we could do this all day.
00:47:02.838 --> 00:47:05.568
This guy's any awesome shout out to eric's parents.
00:47:05.568 --> 00:47:07.010
He's oh, zach's gonna take a picture.
00:47:07.010 --> 00:47:08.213
What up?
00:47:08.213 --> 00:47:11.686
All right, zach, I'm going to clap for you Now, zach.
00:47:11.686 --> 00:47:13.494
Funny story about Zach.
00:47:13.494 --> 00:47:18.532
We ran out of room on the camera so we're giving him a hard time because he really is awesome.
00:47:18.532 --> 00:47:22.750
But, zach, come on, man Get it together, right?
00:47:22.750 --> 00:47:24.570
Zach the Lego maniac.
00:47:24.570 --> 00:47:25.753
Zach, remember that?
00:47:25.753 --> 00:47:26.615
Oh, I remember that.
00:47:27.025 --> 00:47:27.226
Zach.
00:47:27.226 --> 00:47:31.389
Have you ever heard Zach, zach, lego maniac?
00:47:31.389 --> 00:47:32.512
It was an 80s thing.
00:47:32.512 --> 00:47:36.893
I had a friend named Zach back then and he hated Legos, if you can believe that Isn't that weird?
00:47:36.893 --> 00:47:39.298
I know, I know that's what he claimed.
00:47:39.298 --> 00:47:41.451
So anyway, okay, this has been a blast.
00:47:41.451 --> 00:47:42.173
Thank you so much.
00:47:42.173 --> 00:47:44.271
Thank you, minsky's, thank you Etc.
00:47:44.271 --> 00:47:45.726
Thank you Rise and Shine.
00:47:45.726 --> 00:47:47.771
Wow, this building belongs to a lot of people.
00:47:47.771 --> 00:47:50.277
Thank you, eric Ely, for joining.
00:47:50.277 --> 00:47:51.338
This has been so great.
00:47:51.338 --> 00:47:53.951
Don't forget to check out Mudwater.
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Go to the show notes.
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Click on the link.
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Give us a five-star review on Apple.
00:47:57.030 --> 00:47:59.451
All those good things, man, that stuff just rolls off my tongue.
00:47:59.451 --> 00:47:59.592
Now.
00:47:59.592 --> 00:48:04.268
I'm not afraid of asking for favors YouTube subscribe, like, pass this on.
00:48:04.288 --> 00:48:13.356
I'm going to see how long Zach can hold his phone into that position, Because now he's since he ran out of room on the camera he's now having to hold it with his hands.
00:48:13.356 --> 00:48:14.998
Look at his arms shaking he is.
00:48:14.998 --> 00:48:17.121
Look at those biceps though.
00:48:17.385 --> 00:48:19.534
Dang boy, does that weigh the same amount as a brick?
00:48:19.534 --> 00:48:25.755
I'm just I well, you're a mirror lifeguard, it just keeps slowly dropping down, down, down.
00:48:25.905 --> 00:48:27.030
Anyway, what else do we want to talk about, man?
00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:27.775
Anyway, what else do?
00:48:27.795 --> 00:48:28.579
we want to talk about man.
00:48:28.579 --> 00:48:29.061
I got a long list here.
00:48:29.081 --> 00:48:30.947
Let me see what I got All right, man, that's it.
00:48:30.947 --> 00:48:33.155
Hey, we're going to sign off with our tagline what Else is Possible.
00:48:33.155 --> 00:48:35.067
I'll say what else you say is possible.
00:48:35.067 --> 00:48:35.626
Can you do that?
00:48:36.027 --> 00:48:36.547
Is possible.
00:48:36.648 --> 00:48:37.248
Is possible.
00:48:37.429 --> 00:48:39.090
Yeah, rehearse it a few times, I can do it yeah.
00:48:39.431 --> 00:48:41.373
Blah, blah, blah, blah, and remember to never stop asking the question.
00:48:41.373 --> 00:48:41.913
What else is possible?
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See you next time.