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Pete Hall: Welcome to the Transformative Principal.
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I am so excited to share this interview from ISTE 2026 with you.
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Really fascinating things happening there.
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Jethro D. Jones: all right that I wanted to
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we are in our we
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trying
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college and
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kids for
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we, Yes And even know
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what
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technology gonna look like
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advancements that are- rapidly
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that?
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What transforming where do you sit on you manage
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a being who is trying
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Jamie Candee: So I'd say there's
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Yeah I wanna answer that.
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had decades now, we've
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focus on, of college which
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college promise, promise career
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But we've always said college
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and right?
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Mm-hmm.
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As a and career readiness, running
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those our schools, like
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schools, everything we've always
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to said is college and But the anything vo-tech programs
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occasional or the
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career
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because Walmart's
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changing now
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and that's all
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yes, with AI
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the change is incredible.
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but if you actually is country and the jobs that are needed in
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many of them are highly durable,
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They pay really well,
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be
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students be ready them.
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So HVAC,
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how many small
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it's amazing see many small businesses in this country right now where the
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retire- and they have no one and a a lot of those
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over their
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are in the
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so we don't think that the trades are the only
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this
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what we do see in really high demand for
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and a system that's trying figure out
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be ready those Whether you wanna do it
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be
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or you wanna do it for couple years go to college some sort higher
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to college or at Admentum, that's the… Everything that we're is predicated predicated from
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we have an from middle
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connect
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school help
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kids with real world
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real
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academics, CTE
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workplace
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And what it requires good
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that's coming
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plans
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and lot the different things you're seeing states
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a lot And do, role companies ours
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out how as relates to, to AI,
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thing that we think important of
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is to ensure that
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All jobs are being disrupted by
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but some jobs are being far more
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So if you take, for example, the
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profession, the allied
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into individuals that going
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technical
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some of the
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highly doctor or a positions that are not a those jobs are gonna become more
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are
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the use of So what we're at
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in our curriculum
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is how will AI influence
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will AI
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uses tools
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an
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And we're wor- And because of the investments we've made in AI, are able update our curriculum very,
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is evolving as world
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fast I know that was a long answer question- …but
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Jethro D. Jones: lines is to your question Yeah but hopefully that kinda gives you a sense of how we're thinking Yeah along those
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one of the that I'm
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How do we get kids an
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we
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be involved in careers ready for careers soon as possible so that we're not waiting until
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years school at college to have career But what So like in a very practical
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if
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if we want a pathway teachers in
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my opinion kids graduate from high school get job as an aide or some job in the
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They do that job while they're going
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whatever certifications they need and
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the job they're trying up with So like they want the
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district, accountant at
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they start by being a bookkeeper or a,
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financial secretary whatever it that they have
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so there needs to be a
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And teach them things- Yes … which
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things is where you guys
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Yes then also opportunities And I'm just seeing as many those opportunities
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like you were talking
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like
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there's some
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talking about
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behind it saying what do, and here's
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Jamie Candee: think a really, really great point.
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What you
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described is what I
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just in my
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undergrad myself my
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by, serving as an
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four years.
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And And I did it all
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that the only way that I actually
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it
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myself, I I needed to
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what that experience
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that was I was more
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here
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I was more passionate about happening classrooms versus me being in the
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So I then thought, well, I'm gonna go into
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policy, up changing
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and, and the rest is history.
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Got into,
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technology.
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point is, I actually think way that we do this and what we've been working and there are many
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are school
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schools that are now
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is we wanna
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gap that we of the the
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of can help kids get really
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about teaching or whatever is, we think that with sixth grade career career exploration, like really
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Then allow them to
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them
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courses curriculum that give them of a what is
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electives
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it
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that as their that, that,
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and then actually give
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workplace experience while can do they're still in high school Yes lot of different ways that can do that now with
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and then when they get out of high school, and this
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and high at a lot of state community colleges country the
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around the country, age of
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and the reason a lot of ind- a lot graduate high school, they go out work
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save up enough money to then
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go these shifts that are happening right
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are
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see
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What I don't
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scaling action we're
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know, I call to action, really
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can working it as much there's no reason for Walmart be the only
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pushing
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into their local around Alabama to
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districts develop
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great like like retail
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management others.
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can
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Every employer in the
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And so, like building this bridge
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And workforce, because it's always been K-12 into higher
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it's And we think that there can
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multiple
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be multiple
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directly to the workforce,
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just…
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Going higher ed is for a lot
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of careers in country,
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that happen.
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And so that's the part we're really working right now
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is
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Jethro D. Jones: try
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and anybody can look back
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life and see that is only a straight line
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Because it is definitely not for almost always
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So what are some of the things that you're
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doing possible for to, make that
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Jamie Candee: So the first piece
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is you know I
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I talked
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it's really cool.
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So, last fall,
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acquired
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And what a company called MajorClarity career planning and
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So it starts with interest age value, just like an assessment career understand, what do I love,
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I could
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and what are all that And use the example my Yeah … when acquired MajorClarity, his Milo.
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I put Milo on the platform,
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to be an I he is now an eleventh grader, so he used it, uh, as a tenth
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play in the passionate- the
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player.
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really we know of, of, people who actually Very small make it to the MLB to the so what we've been trying
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of possibility
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there is a whole world You could surround
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your
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and so
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of life, there's so many
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that Yes, professional player, but there's all these jobs.
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You could be an
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you could be a coach, you could agent.
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organizations
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know, one of the
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in marketing.
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And so Milo learned
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going
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is that he's got lot of passion
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in
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side baseball.
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now is
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baseball So
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exploring what it would be like to be
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or to be in sales as an agent players, and he is
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Yeah What tells them also "Here's the "Here's math you're able read jobs.
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Here's how much
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And so the point, the point
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as is
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it is our job
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expose kids as
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to
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their passions as saying track as Yeah Expose them as early finishing then while they're
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school, years high experience
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them access
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to because it to Chronic absenteeism
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down, this
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And now we have like, generation
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in what's next
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and engaged in what's So that's really, excited
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Jethro D. Jones: engaged of what's next Yeah So that's really like the the through line of what we're working on love that know
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People talk about,
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you kind of stuff
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know exploring your kind of stuff and
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is that reality you can money and support doing all
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your
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kinds of and it doesn't have you don't have to go get a deadend a deadend job
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could do that.
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In fact, have a
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who has
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a very much
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that he does a and he But what he likes about is that he can
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his kids
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their teams- be around for
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kind of
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Yep go to their events and all that And he's not having to miss
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miss sleeps when they're in school.
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And, that is a clear decision he
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made, and it is not
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it not the
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But thing
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is that it once you that from and excitement becomes a lot do those then when you
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double bonus is even
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so kind of exposure, important
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But it can't just be
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oh, uh… Like a kid I thought you doctor, a or a teacher, and so I chose teacher And that was just me being dumb not paying
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Impor I also
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Yeah That's
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But I
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but Oh I got
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it So
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Jamie Candee: like, wait a minute.
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say being
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No
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Jethro D. Jones: I was like, "Wait a minute.
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Jamie Candee: you just
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being a
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Jethro D. Jones: dumb?" No, no, no, no, no.
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No, Jamie, I did not say being a teacher is dumb.
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no No Jamie I did not
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Jamie Candee: entire audience today- … …including me-
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Jethro D. Jones: and
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you,
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And
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I And don't,
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There needs to be
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opportunities
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and
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Jamie Candee: like- But that, that what you just said right
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like- how do we, how are we still, still
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this day, when you will say, what do you wanna be?"
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And they're like, "I don't know, either lawyer, doctor, or teacher."
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job
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And like, it our
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job
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that pattern and, think all these all these
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One, um, my dad a boiler in
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he the graveyard shift
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the we grew up dad working
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And my mom started a
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cosmetologist,
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is and the interesting thing my dad
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job, never woke
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once a day in his
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to go.
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my mom
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she she didn't go to college.
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figured out how entrepreneur.
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She got her to license, and she successfully ran a small business for
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And that's just the difference, like, two different making choices
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different reasons so, like, the point I try to
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the country the schools that we all over is, like,
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Like, can expose them.
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College is a
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It's still a because
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of the the reality is 40% college
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graduate high school, graduate 60%
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Jethro D. Jones: so what happens them
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Jamie Candee: And- And
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oftentimes those jobs are fall into because we have that
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So So I don't care if you're urban, rural, suburban, kid deserves
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have an opportunity will help them feel better about core
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about the
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feel better themselves.
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It also changes
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on
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when we start to focus
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah Well and when you do this then kids have a a reason for learning things that they're learning and they can
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the that they're learning
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"Okay, if I want to understand contracts, I need to be able
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for
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Jamie Candee: right
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Jethro D. Jones: …if I wanna be an agent
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player."
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Jamie Candee: That's
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Jethro D. Jones: right.
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You know, I may
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not be not be
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I can be close to him And I
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can be to
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stuff do cool
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things uh,
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things with one of my friends, back in with, Tom Brady's, Like What's the word?
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Like
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his nutritionist the
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and whatever he
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And so this guy has And has this great friend
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something who's basically invented this job and is working with the b- one of the best athletes
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is a
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Jamie Candee: nutrition
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Jethro D. Jones: grace And
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Jamie Candee: it's
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Jethro D. Jones: nutrition, and it's massages-
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and this of
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It's cool have
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a thing that I would never thought.
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And you don't think about how
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those sports teams much need other support
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Jamie Candee: Yeah.
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Jethro D. Jones: Um so in in University, program
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sports therapists-
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that,
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with gives them internship with
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And that is everybody goes
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can be baseball basketball, uh,
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The Yeah
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Yeah that
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thing, at my,
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kids school they now know that's
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pathway for them, that a that program, what they're going to to eventually
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So
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being able
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is to have and all that
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is is
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important
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Jamie Candee: all that very important.
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I'll give you another example of
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I'll
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other side of the house.
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So Decatur
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side of
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Decatur
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one of our partners.
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They run amazing career
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person and academy.
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both in And one of the things they started doing a few years
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they started
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is they have-- they produce lot
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every
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the different sports.
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sports.
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and you know Mm-hmm.
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And so when a student gets hired from Forklift
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one
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of sit at the table just like and they do their signing day because they're now going directly welding, into
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that workplace
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they got all that
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they
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while
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learning done while and now they're going directly career.
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And these are incredibly
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people jobs-
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that need
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stay in those communities in need So
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I get really excited, the sports stuff's so cool, and then also when
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see stuff like what Decatur doing, I'm just like, it's amazing possibilities when we,
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Jethro D. Jones: what Decatur's doing I'm just like it's amazing the possibilities when just work together to figure them out Yeah Well and I think that's really
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key is on your own.
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it is hard
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do it to
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great if you have a Walmart
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or-
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We support this and we're gonna help with
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this but schools need something when they
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have that's where Edmentum steps
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provide that help them that out.
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and how, how look
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day to day so a kid, you know, browsing on
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to
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figure out how to-
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how Like what
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does that
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Jamie Candee: does look like for a kid?
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two ways students
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two
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us.
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And so course, you're us high
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And so of course, you're gonna
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of the biggest have in schools the of to students, guidance counselors to you know, is tiny.
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in
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one to Yep And I live in Minnesota and our school career cause there's so I live in Minnesota, and our ratio is one many students that is that a student is maybe getting one
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school career 'cause there's many students.
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so what we try to do is and the CTE directors the guidance counselors, and then the core you're bridging all of groups together to say like, "How are we
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And so the way it, the way it works
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through electives and time, we weave
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that career exploration I talked
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that exploration
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the interest assessment, helping kids figure out, and that starts their individual
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now there's forty states
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which there's
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And so you build your inter-individual
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the country
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And it starts with the exploration,
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inventory, and then as you go
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refine helps you
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that you're interested in.
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And
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different careers so this changes as you move
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about
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all your dreams
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school's more like
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yep and High school, it starts become more I'm starting to get really
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So in Milo's case, Milo this year,
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junior year, he
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Twelve months ago, I can guarantee you he have never
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through And so it starts to help you
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through the
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guide to you might choose
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given whatever
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pathway At the later high school
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really cool ages, the
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thing
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internships, workplace learning,
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way platform works get
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put… So you
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don't have to surf web.
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don't have go to look at all these different
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they're not going to, LinkedIn employers so what it actually allows local
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internships apprenticeships, the
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to
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these students.
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and those students then get an to go out and do
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so it's a really nice, a really helps students work a bunch of engagement
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focused.
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and then the other piece that we added
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and
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really excited about,
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heard of the nonprofit Roadtrip
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you've
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Roadtrip Nation has the green RVs.
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drive all over
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Started
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like 20 years ago.
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an amazing organization.
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What they do
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go
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organization
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a real day in all these
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Astronaut, welder, plumber,
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videos.
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name they've done
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They're Emmy Award-winning videos, and they're very short, form like TikToky style
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We are now integrating and embedding
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and in our learning courses, goal is… One of my favorite videos
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my have the professional
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It's US professional
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surfers, surfing team, you think of
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they actually sit and talk about how much
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because in order to go, go, go,
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to
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waves on Shore on Oahu, you actually have have to able to understand how you're gonna
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You be able
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massive Yep and actually then, like, how
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these which is incredible, right?
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And so now all of a
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these are like, "Wait
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Surfing and
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And a minute, so that's been a part
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of the investment
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as much practical, real
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as
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world,
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kids love programs so that they
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and engagement,
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah
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So a couple things that I
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appreciate there- Yeah … do
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does this look to do this job.
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Yes
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kind Interviews people, that kind of stuff, you can get an idea
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of what it looks like But then the other thing you mentioned
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is you
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it's to have big every
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able to.
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But they don't know be and that opportunity them
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Oh there's a market here "Hey, kids, would
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love for.
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is the kind of kid that looking
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they've already got an interest inventory that says, "This is then it's a lot easier match
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so that was the next I wanted to talk is how do you match
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them
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use the language
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do you the that transferable easy business to say These are the skills
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looking for, the interest
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Jamie Candee: I'm looking for"?
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What does that look like?
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Yeah.
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So there's combination
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durable skills, so those skills that
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all so much about.
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know,
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we they
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employers are, which are
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indicating what if
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you look at job and if you postings, becoming way more important
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than
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apprenticeship and then what the appr-
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appr- Like, what skills
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and
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what are you actually getting what do,
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I'd say when we started, this discussion,
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hardest as a country that we've gotta figure out, because it's, it's
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Jethro D. Jones: it's
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Jamie Candee: it's shouldn't say premature, connection from
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is this
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K-12 to
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we're evolving there
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because we as a decades have so around K-twelve to higher ed or post-secondary so the higher ed post-secondary institutions
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that role, have
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now we're
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played
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help school districts and
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employers
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together versus to go
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through the
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that have adopted, learning,
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plans earlier, so states Tennessee, Alabama, this policy work, we see more scalability
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are
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those states.
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And others that just
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a little bit slower really connect it.
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lot of that still being done there,
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through the
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So this is what-- this is our we call it the next frontier.
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This
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how to build stronger direct
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between
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah
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Jamie Candee: It's definitely an
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah for sure because they all they all need
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need people stay in their communities- and all that you've said the word durable skills
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you've
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skills
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know that everybody's using that but the word I
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better
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Jamie Candee: I've that.
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Oh,
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Jethro D. Jones: reason the first time
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Jamie Candee: me
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Jethro D. Jones: The reason why I like
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tell
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why I
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skills makes
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you think that
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You've
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got it and then it sticks organic skill means it continually growing so the reason why I like
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you're going be at this
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level- Mm-hmm
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when you are
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and when graduate high
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school move up a level
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But
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it's
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move it's not you have that skill, but it's gonna to grow.
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And then
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10 years down road 20 years down is
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that organic skill
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organic
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is in in a way is organic and so someone
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well who, you take the of
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like empathy for example Yeah You may have a certain level
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of from and then tragedy happens in your life And then you have this
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whole different level
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of
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that grows and changes with you really the only way that to develop to
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And,
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is if you don't,
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then all we want
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we can talk about
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empathy
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all we really experience it, and then that's
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Does
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that make
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Jamie Candee: develop
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and I think it's
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make sense?
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It
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how do we create
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in our K-twelve system- Mm-hmm … those organic
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and even helping recognize
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and here's where you're at now, and here's ways and and
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah
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Jamie Candee: how they'll change
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and grow over
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an interesting- debate of how we do
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Jethro D. Jones: And that a
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Jamie Candee: lifetime
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Even executive We always my daughter and have
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and I. I've talked to her a lot she… And now she's, know, this has started when
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now as 13 going
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on likes point out on 14-year-old, she and some need
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some- …growing grooming.
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So I, I fi- I love that.
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I
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that's
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Jethro D. Jones: great That's hilarious great Jamie this has been awesome Thank you Edmentum is company edmentumcom can go there what would be your advice
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sounds school principal who's like this What school does this
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look
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this into my work So
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Uh,
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So the
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Jamie Candee: first thing that believe is nothing well
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see that it is a good
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see I
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for kids.
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So first place start with
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is
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that do these things is getting, really understanding your school and
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your community and what needs,
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your
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working with
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and
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these how you bring school.
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Because what's not good if I say, "Get it all, and let's just start."
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There's
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usually progression.
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Yeah And so the first place is, like,
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where that principal believes the biggest
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is, start there.
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And then you craft, you know, a
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how you get something implemented
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you can
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and then scale there.
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so oftentimes, of
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there
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most of
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partners, career middle
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and getting that individual
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to get
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it's so hard get
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and to organic, then going back once start career exploration,
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the
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kids say "I wanna do more this," the teachers
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like I more of this The
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and then it allows it's helping to say Yeah So would be
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Jethro D. Jones: well and like most things
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uh just having technology
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there not the
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Yeah going
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you do have to make an
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Jamie Candee: Yes
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Jethro D. Jones: that works my
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I'm at
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right now Where are we at what can handle?
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that
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is it's refreshing to hear you say that because
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especially here at a lot of people will say Well
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of
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and then everybody will use it all the time "And
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Jamie Candee: time
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simple in If it was
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only that it was know.
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I, I… You know what?
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Educators have no shortage
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of in the school system.
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in
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they should be using the ones that, A, they work for their
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Yeah.
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So our goal is to those
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Jethro D. Jones: two
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things.
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I think that's really powerful.
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Thank you very being here
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having time.
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Yep.
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you.
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Jethro D. Jones: all right that I wanted to
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we are in our we
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trying
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college and
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kids for
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we, Yes And even know
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what
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technology gonna look like
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advancements that are- rapidly
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that?
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What transforming where do you sit on you manage
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a being who is trying
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Jamie Candee: So I'd say there's
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Yeah I wanna answer that.
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had decades now, we've
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focus on, of college which
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college promise, promise career
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But we've always said college
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and right?
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Mm-hmm.
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As a and career readiness, running
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those our schools, like
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schools, everything we've always
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to said is college and But the anything vo-tech programs
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occasional or the
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career
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because Walmart's
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changing now
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and that's all
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yes, with AI
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the change is incredible.
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but if you actually is country and the jobs that are needed in
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many of them are highly durable,
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They pay really well,
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be
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students be ready them.
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So HVAC,
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how many small
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it's amazing see many small businesses in this country right now where the
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retire- and they have no one and a a lot of those
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over their
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are in the
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so we don't think that the trades are the only
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this
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what we do see in really high demand for
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and a system that's trying figure out
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be ready those Whether you wanna do it
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be
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or you wanna do it for couple years go to college some sort higher
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to college or at Admentum, that's the… Everything that we're is predicated predicated from
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we have an from middle
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connect
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school help
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kids with real world
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real
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academics, CTE
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workplace
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And what it requires good
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that's coming
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plans
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and lot the different things you're seeing states
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a lot And do, role companies ours
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out how as relates to, to AI,
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thing that we think important of
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is to ensure that
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All jobs are being disrupted by
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but some jobs are being far more
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So if you take, for example, the
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profession, the allied
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into individuals that going
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technical
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some of the
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highly doctor or a positions that are not a those jobs are gonna become more
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are
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the use of So what we're at
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in our curriculum
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is how will AI influence
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will AI
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uses tools
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an
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And we're wor- And because of the investments we've made in AI, are able update our curriculum very,
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is evolving as world
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fast I know that was a long answer question- …but
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Jethro D. Jones: lines is to your question Yeah but hopefully that kinda gives you a sense of how we're thinking Yeah along those
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one of the that I'm
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How do we get kids an
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we
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be involved in careers ready for careers soon as possible so that we're not waiting until
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years school at college to have career But what So like in a very practical
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if
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if we want a pathway teachers in
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my opinion kids graduate from high school get job as an aide or some job in the
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They do that job while they're going
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whatever certifications they need and
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the job they're trying up with So like they want the
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district, accountant at
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they start by being a bookkeeper or a,
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financial secretary whatever it that they have
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so there needs to be a
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And teach them things- Yes … which
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things is where you guys
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Yes then also opportunities And I'm just seeing as many those opportunities
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like you were talking
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like
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there's some
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talking about
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behind it saying what do, and here's
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Jamie Candee: think a really, really great point.
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What you
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described is what I
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just in my
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undergrad myself my
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by, serving as an
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four years.
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And And I did it all
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that the only way that I actually
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it
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myself, I I needed to
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what that experience
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that was I was more
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here
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I was more passionate about happening classrooms versus me being in the
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So I then thought, well, I'm gonna go into
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policy, up changing
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and, and the rest is history.
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Got into,
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technology.
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point is, I actually think way that we do this and what we've been working and there are many
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are school
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schools that are now
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is we wanna
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gap that we of the the
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of can help kids get really
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about teaching or whatever is, we think that with sixth grade career career exploration, like really
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Then allow them to
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them
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courses curriculum that give them of a what is
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electives
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it
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that as their that, that,
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and then actually give
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workplace experience while can do they're still in high school Yes lot of different ways that can do that now with
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and then when they get out of high school, and this
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and high at a lot of state community colleges country the
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around the country, age of
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and the reason a lot of ind- a lot graduate high school, they go out work
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save up enough money to then
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go these shifts that are happening right
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are
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see
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What I don't
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scaling action we're
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know, I call to action, really
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can working it as much there's no reason for Walmart be the only
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pushing
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into their local around Alabama to
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districts develop
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great like like retail
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management others.
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can
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Every employer in the
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And so, like building this bridge
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And workforce, because it's always been K-12 into higher
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it's And we think that there can
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multiple
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be multiple
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directly to the workforce,
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just…
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Going higher ed is for a lot
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of careers in country,
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that happen.
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And so that's the part we're really working right now
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is
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Jethro D. Jones: try
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and anybody can look back
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life and see that is only a straight line
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Because it is definitely not for almost always
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So what are some of the things that you're
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doing possible for to, make that
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Jamie Candee: So the first piece
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is you know I
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I talked
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it's really cool.
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So, last fall,
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acquired
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And what a company called MajorClarity career planning and
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So it starts with interest age value, just like an assessment career understand, what do I love,
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I could
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and what are all that And use the example my Yeah … when acquired MajorClarity, his Milo.
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I put Milo on the platform,
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to be an I he is now an eleventh grader, so he used it, uh, as a tenth
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play in the passionate- the
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player.
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really we know of, of, people who actually Very small make it to the MLB to the so what we've been trying
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of possibility
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there is a whole world You could surround
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your
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and so
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of life, there's so many
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that Yes, professional player, but there's all these jobs.
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You could be an
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you could be a coach, you could agent.
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organizations
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know, one of the
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in marketing.
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And so Milo learned
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going
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is that he's got lot of passion
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in
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side baseball.
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now is
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baseball So
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exploring what it would be like to be
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or to be in sales as an agent players, and he is
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Yeah What tells them also "Here's the "Here's math you're able read jobs.
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Here's how much
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And so the point, the point
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as is
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it is our job
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expose kids as
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to
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their passions as saying track as Yeah Expose them as early finishing then while they're
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school, years high experience
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them access
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to because it to Chronic absenteeism
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down, this
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And now we have like, generation
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in what's next
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and engaged in what's So that's really, excited
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Jethro D. Jones: engaged of what's next Yeah So that's really like the the through line of what we're working on love that know
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People talk about,
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you kind of stuff
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know exploring your kind of stuff and
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is that reality you can money and support doing all
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your
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kinds of and it doesn't have you don't have to go get a deadend a deadend job
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could do that.
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In fact, have a
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who has
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a very much
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that he does a and he But what he likes about is that he can
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his kids
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their teams- be around for
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kind of
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Yep go to their events and all that And he's not having to miss
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miss sleeps when they're in school.
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And, that is a clear decision he
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made, and it is not
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it not the
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But thing
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is that it once you that from and excitement becomes a lot do those then when you
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double bonus is even
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so kind of exposure, important
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But it can't just be
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oh, uh… Like a kid I thought you doctor, a or a teacher, and so I chose teacher And that was just me being dumb not paying
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Impor I also
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Yeah That's
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But I
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but Oh I got
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it So
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Jamie Candee: like, wait a minute.
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say being
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No
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Jethro D. Jones: I was like, "Wait a minute.
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Jamie Candee: you just
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being a
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Jethro D. Jones: dumb?" No, no, no, no, no.
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No, Jamie, I did not say being a teacher is dumb.
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no No Jamie I did not
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Jamie Candee: entire audience today- … …including me-
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Jethro D. Jones: and
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you,
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And
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I And don't,
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There needs to be
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opportunities
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and
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Jamie Candee: like- But that, that what you just said right
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like- how do we, how are we still, still
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this day, when you will say, what do you wanna be?"
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And they're like, "I don't know, either lawyer, doctor, or teacher."
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job
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And like, it our
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job
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that pattern and, think all these all these
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One, um, my dad a boiler in
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he the graveyard shift
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the we grew up dad working
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And my mom started a
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cosmetologist,
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is and the interesting thing my dad
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job, never woke
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once a day in his
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to go.
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my mom
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she she didn't go to college.
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figured out how entrepreneur.
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She got her to license, and she successfully ran a small business for
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And that's just the difference, like, two different making choices
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different reasons so, like, the point I try to
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the country the schools that we all over is, like,
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Like, can expose them.
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College is a
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It's still a because
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of the the reality is 40% college
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graduate high school, graduate 60%
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Jethro D. Jones: so what happens them
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Jamie Candee: And- And
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oftentimes those jobs are fall into because we have that
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So So I don't care if you're urban, rural, suburban, kid deserves
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have an opportunity will help them feel better about core
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about the
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feel better themselves.
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It also changes
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on
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when we start to focus
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah Well and when you do this then kids have a a reason for learning things that they're learning and they can
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the that they're learning
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"Okay, if I want to understand contracts, I need to be able
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for
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Jamie Candee: right
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Jethro D. Jones: …if I wanna be an agent
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player."
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Jamie Candee: That's
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Jethro D. Jones: right.
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You know, I may
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not be not be
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I can be close to him And I
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can be to
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stuff do cool
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things uh,
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things with one of my friends, back in with, Tom Brady's, Like What's the word?
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Like
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his nutritionist the
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and whatever he
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And so this guy has And has this great friend
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something who's basically invented this job and is working with the b- one of the best athletes
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is a
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Jamie Candee: nutrition
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Jethro D. Jones: grace And
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Jamie Candee: it's
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Jethro D. Jones: nutrition, and it's massages-
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and this of
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It's cool have
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a thing that I would never thought.
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And you don't think about how
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those sports teams much need other support
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Jamie Candee: Yeah.
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Jethro D. Jones: Um so in in University, program
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sports therapists-
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that,
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with gives them internship with
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And that is everybody goes
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can be baseball basketball, uh,
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The Yeah
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Yeah that
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thing, at my,
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kids school they now know that's
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pathway for them, that a that program, what they're going to to eventually
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So
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being able
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is to have and all that
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is is
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important
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Jamie Candee: all that very important.
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I'll give you another example of
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I'll
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other side of the house.
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So Decatur
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side of
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Decatur
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one of our partners.
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They run amazing career
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person and academy.
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both in And one of the things they started doing a few years
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they started
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is they have-- they produce lot
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every
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the different sports.
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sports.
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and you know Mm-hmm.
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And so when a student gets hired from Forklift
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one
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of sit at the table just like and they do their signing day because they're now going directly welding, into
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that workplace
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they got all that
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they
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while
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learning done while and now they're going directly career.
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And these are incredibly
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people jobs-
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that need
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stay in those communities in need So
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I get really excited, the sports stuff's so cool, and then also when
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see stuff like what Decatur doing, I'm just like, it's amazing possibilities when we,
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Jethro D. Jones: what Decatur's doing I'm just like it's amazing the possibilities when just work together to figure them out Yeah Well and I think that's really
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key is on your own.
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it is hard
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do it to
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great if you have a Walmart
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or-
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We support this and we're gonna help with
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this but schools need something when they
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have that's where Edmentum steps
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provide that help them that out.
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and how, how look
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day to day so a kid, you know, browsing on
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to
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figure out how to-
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how Like what
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does that
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Jamie Candee: does look like for a kid?
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two ways students
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two
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us.
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And so course, you're us high
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And so of course, you're gonna
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of the biggest have in schools the of to students, guidance counselors to you know, is tiny.
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in
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one to Yep And I live in Minnesota and our school career cause there's so I live in Minnesota, and our ratio is one many students that is that a student is maybe getting one
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school career 'cause there's many students.
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so what we try to do is and the CTE directors the guidance counselors, and then the core you're bridging all of groups together to say like, "How are we
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And so the way it, the way it works
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through electives and time, we weave
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that career exploration I talked
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that exploration
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the interest assessment, helping kids figure out, and that starts their individual
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now there's forty states
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which there's
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And so you build your inter-individual
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the country
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And it starts with the exploration,
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inventory, and then as you go
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refine helps you
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that you're interested in.
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And
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different careers so this changes as you move
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about
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all your dreams
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school's more like
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yep and High school, it starts become more I'm starting to get really
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So in Milo's case, Milo this year,
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junior year, he
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Twelve months ago, I can guarantee you he have never
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through And so it starts to help you
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through the
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guide to you might choose
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given whatever
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pathway At the later high school
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really cool ages, the
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thing
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internships, workplace learning,
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way platform works get
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put… So you
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don't have to surf web.
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don't have go to look at all these different
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they're not going to, LinkedIn employers so what it actually allows local
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internships apprenticeships, the
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to
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these students.
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and those students then get an to go out and do
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so it's a really nice, a really helps students work a bunch of engagement
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focused.
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and then the other piece that we added
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and
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really excited about,
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heard of the nonprofit Roadtrip
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you've
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Roadtrip Nation has the green RVs.
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drive all over
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Started
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like 20 years ago.
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an amazing organization.
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What they do
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go
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organization
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a real day in all these
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Astronaut, welder, plumber,
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videos.
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name they've done
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They're Emmy Award-winning videos, and they're very short, form like TikToky style
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We are now integrating and embedding
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and in our learning courses, goal is… One of my favorite videos
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my have the professional
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It's US professional
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surfers, surfing team, you think of
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they actually sit and talk about how much
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because in order to go, go, go,
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to
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waves on Shore on Oahu, you actually have have to able to understand how you're gonna
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You be able
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massive Yep and actually then, like, how
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these which is incredible, right?
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And so now all of a
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these are like, "Wait
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Surfing and
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And a minute, so that's been a part
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of the investment
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as much practical, real
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as
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world,
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kids love programs so that they
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and engagement,
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah
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So a couple things that I
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appreciate there- Yeah … do
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does this look to do this job.
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Yes
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kind Interviews people, that kind of stuff, you can get an idea
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of what it looks like But then the other thing you mentioned
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is you
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it's to have big every
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able to.
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But they don't know be and that opportunity them
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Oh there's a market here "Hey, kids, would
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love for.
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is the kind of kid that looking
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they've already got an interest inventory that says, "This is then it's a lot easier match
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so that was the next I wanted to talk is how do you match
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them
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use the language
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do you the that transferable easy business to say These are the skills
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looking for, the interest
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Jamie Candee: I'm looking for"?
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What does that look like?
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Yeah.
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So there's combination
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durable skills, so those skills that
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all so much about.
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know,
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we they
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employers are, which are
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indicating what if
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you look at job and if you postings, becoming way more important
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than
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apprenticeship and then what the appr-
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appr- Like, what skills
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and
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what are you actually getting what do,
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I'd say when we started, this discussion,
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hardest as a country that we've gotta figure out, because it's, it's
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Jethro D. Jones: it's
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Jamie Candee: it's shouldn't say premature, connection from
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is this
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K-12 to
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we're evolving there
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because we as a decades have so around K-twelve to higher ed or post-secondary so the higher ed post-secondary institutions
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that role, have
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now we're
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played
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help school districts and
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employers
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together versus to go
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through the
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that have adopted, learning,
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plans earlier, so states Tennessee, Alabama, this policy work, we see more scalability
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are
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those states.
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And others that just
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a little bit slower really connect it.
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lot of that still being done there,
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through the
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So this is what-- this is our we call it the next frontier.
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This
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how to build stronger direct
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between
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah
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Jamie Candee: It's definitely an
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah for sure because they all they all need
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need people stay in their communities- and all that you've said the word durable skills
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you've
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skills
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know that everybody's using that but the word I
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better
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Jamie Candee: I've that.
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Oh,
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Jethro D. Jones: reason the first time
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Jamie Candee: me
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Jethro D. Jones: The reason why I like
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tell
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why I
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skills makes
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you think that
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You've
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got it and then it sticks organic skill means it continually growing so the reason why I like
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you're going be at this
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level- Mm-hmm
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when you are
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and when graduate high
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school move up a level
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But
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it's
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move it's not you have that skill, but it's gonna to grow.
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And then
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10 years down road 20 years down is
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that organic skill
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organic
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is in in a way is organic and so someone
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well who, you take the of
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like empathy for example Yeah You may have a certain level
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of from and then tragedy happens in your life And then you have this
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whole different level
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of
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that grows and changes with you really the only way that to develop to
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And,
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is if you don't,
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then all we want
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we can talk about
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empathy
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all we really experience it, and then that's
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Does
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that make
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Jamie Candee: develop
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and I think it's
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make sense?
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It
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how do we create
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in our K-twelve system- Mm-hmm … those organic
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and even helping recognize
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and here's where you're at now, and here's ways and and
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Jethro D. Jones: Yeah
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Jamie Candee: how they'll change
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and grow over
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an interesting- debate of how we do
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Jethro D. Jones: And that a
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Jamie Candee: lifetime
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Even executive We always my daughter and have
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and I. I've talked to her a lot she… And now she's, know, this has started when
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now as 13 going
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on likes point out on 14-year-old, she and some need
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some- …growing grooming.
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So I, I fi- I love that.
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I
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that's
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Jethro D. Jones: great That's hilarious great Jamie this has been awesome Thank you Edmentum is company edmentumcom can go there what would be your advice
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sounds school principal who's like this What school does this
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look
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this into my work So
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Uh,
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So the
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Jamie Candee: first thing that believe is nothing well
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see that it is a good
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see I
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for kids.
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So first place start with
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is
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that do these things is getting, really understanding your school and
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your community and what needs,
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your
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working with
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and
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these how you bring school.
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Because what's not good if I say, "Get it all, and let's just start."
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There's
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usually progression.
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Yeah And so the first place is, like,
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where that principal believes the biggest
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is, start there.
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And then you craft, you know, a
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how you get something implemented
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you can
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and then scale there.
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so oftentimes, of
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there
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most of
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partners, career middle
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and getting that individual
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to get
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it's so hard get
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and to organic, then going back once start career exploration,
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the
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kids say "I wanna do more this," the teachers
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like I more of this The
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and then it allows it's helping to say Yeah So would be
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Jethro D. Jones: well and like most things
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uh just having technology
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there not the
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Yeah going
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you do have to make an
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Jamie Candee: Yes
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Jethro D. Jones: that works my
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I'm at
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right now Where are we at what can handle?
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that
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is it's refreshing to hear you say that because
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especially here at a lot of people will say Well
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of
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and then everybody will use it all the time "And
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Jamie Candee: time
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simple in If it was
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only that it was know.
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I, I… You know what?
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Educators have no shortage
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of in the school system.
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in
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they should be using the ones that, A, they work for their
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Yeah.
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So our goal is to those
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Jethro D. Jones: two
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things.
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I think that's really powerful.
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Thank you very being here
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having time.
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Yep.
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you.
