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Welcome to This Organized Life. If
you're a mom, wife, or coffee
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lovers seeking advice on how to reduce
clutter and reclaim time, look no further
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than your host, Laurie Palou,
Founder Simply Be Organized, an author of
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hot Mess, a practical guide to
getting organized For a lot of people.
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Clutter is our dirty little secret,
but it doesn't have to be. Each
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week we will share practical tips,
chat with experts, and provide strategies on
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how to keep you organized. I
hope that by sharing our stories you feel
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a little less alone and more empowered
to tackle the areas that are holding you
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back. So let's get started.
Hi everybody, and welcome to today's episode
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of This Organized Life podcast. I
am your host, Laurie Palau, and
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before we get into today's episode,
I just want to make sure that you
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guys all know about our Tip of
the Week. We just launch that a
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couple of weeks ago. If you
are new to our show, we've been
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releasing new episodes weekly for the past
seven years, and we've been asked by
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a lot of our listeners, do
you guys do any kind of like short
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form little tidbits to help us get
motivated throughout the Week, and so we've
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recently just launched our Tip of the
Week episode which drops on Monday's a regular
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episode's shop on Thursdays, So as
long as you're subscribed to our show,
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you get both episodes, So just
bear that in mind, love to know
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your thoughts and feedback on that it's
brand new to us. If you have
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questions that you want to submit or
maybe a tip that you want to submit,
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there's a link in the show notes
for you to go ahead and do
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that, and as always, share
your feedback because we love hearing what you
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want to learn about. And speaking
of which, I have a great guest
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for you today. If you're an
OG. She's been on our show before,
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but she's my fellow organizer from back
in the day and she's an author.
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She's got a huge platform in the
organizing space. And my friend Jennifer
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for Barry and Jennifer, if you
don't know where, she's going to come
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out and talk about herself a little
bit and give us her background. She
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is a best selling author. Her
series, the Organized Now series again you
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can buy it wherever you want,
is phenomenal to help people get and stay
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motivated to be organized and she's a
new book that was recently released called make
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Room Take Control of Your space,
time, energy, and money to live
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on Purpose. And I love everything
that she does, so I invited her
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to come back on our show to
talk all about what she's been up to
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about her new book, Who's at
Four and help you continue to stay inspired
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to live your best life. So, without further ado, let me welcome
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my friend Jennifer back to the show. Thank you, Laurie. I'm so
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excited better I am excited to have
you here. So I know were I
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was just recorded an episode to be
on your show. You've gone through a
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huge rebranding. Some of your our
listeners might know you from the twenty nine
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minute mom right was that what the
Nata? Yes? And now you've rebranded
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your podcast to be the Make Room
Show. Correct, And I'm wondering if
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you could just talk a little bit
about that and the stuff that you've been
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up to. But before we get
into all those things, just tell our
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listeners a little bit about you.
Yeah. So I've been doing this whole
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organizing gig for almost twenty literally right
around twenty years because my daughter was a
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baby and now she's twenty one.
So It's like one of those situations where
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if someone of them told me this
when I graduated college, I was like,
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da, out of here, what
are you talking about. I'm gonna
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be in corporate America working for these
big companies. Not working for myself was
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never on my radar. But after
I tried that route, I was not
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fulfilled. I was not content,
and I knew every day when I woke
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up that life was feeling like just
a let movie Groundholm's day. That's literally
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how I fell. And I thought, I'm young, like, I can't
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spend the rest of my career feeling
this way. There has to be more
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to this. I have to wake
up feeling excited if I'm going to go
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to work every day for the banks, you know, thirty forty years.
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And so I started doing like a
deep dive into myself of what am I
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passed them about. I remember that
was like the number one question I'd asked
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to myself. And I won't bore
you with all the inner journey, but
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I got to look like where I
realized I was born to organize. I
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always have loved to do it.
It's something that comes easy for me.
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It brings me joy and happiness.
It helps me feel like I'm doing something
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positive for somebody else. And I
always joke that I was like the kid
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that wanted to clean her room.
Coop. I was like that kid,
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And I was a kid that would
go into people's house with my family and
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say what can I organize? They're
like, sure, go for it.
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So just kept going and it's snowball
into a little tiny newsletter that turned to
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be my first book, Organized Now, which turned to the this is like
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my fifth book, and now,
gosh, I'm so impressed because yeah,
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crazy books are hard consuming, so
time consuming, but I did this has
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been like there's been like a three
or four year break from writing. So
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this is my first book in three
or four years because I did get burned
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out and all with all honesty,
because it just they have asked me to
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do one after the other. And
now I'm doing online searching, which is
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really fun and interesting and helps me
have a little more freedom. But I'm
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still working one of them with people
in their homes and that is just such
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great research for all the online programs
and the books, and it truly is
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something that I don't think I would
ever get sick of just making an impact
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in a person's lives. And you
and I have talked on my show just
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how we have a bigger why for
doing this work, and that's what drives
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me every single day. I no
longer feel like it's Groundhogs day. Yeah,
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And I love this because for so
many reasons, as you and I
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have talked about before, we are
our community of listeners and people that watch
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us on YouTube are a mix of
people who crave organizing strategies because they don't
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have them intuitively, people that are
like organizing junkies like us, that really
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get jazzed up about that and see
these as a challenge and yes, I
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can solve this almost like a puzzle. And then also entrepreneurs who might either
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be doing this or thinking about doing
this, or wondering how they can burn
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their own passion into a profession.
And so I love everything that you're saying
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because it touches on all the different
points. And again, we've spoken about
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the evolution of the organizing industry since
you and I started as our ogs of
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like just how it's evolved. And
I just love the fact that you're able
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to do online coaching. And I
know a lot of our other professional organizers
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up there thinking they have what they're
digital courses or virtual organizing, that we're
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able to serve people in so many
different modalities than exclusively just being in their
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home. Yes, that's it's so
funny. First of all, when you
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say OG, I cracked up because
we're old though, just like the originals,
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I just right like, we're gonna
we're gonna spin it in a positive
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way. But I think it's cool
that we're on either side of this because
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we've talked with me before. When
we started, this was not a thing,
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so this is to be a major
of it and major industry. But
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I feel like now being able to
help people even if I'm not in their
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home, it's pretty amazing. And
I just got to a point where I'm
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like, Okay, I want to
help even more people learn this lifestyle because
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it's so so important, and the
fastest, easiest way to do that is
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through the Internet. And so I'm
just I'm still lucky that I'm living in
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a time where I can do that, because it would be very expensive to
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fly me in to do all these
homes. From now, as you're willing
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to learn, I'll teach you everything
I know and you can do it yourself
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and that's amazing. Yeah, it
really is fascinating, and I love that.
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And I want to talk a little
bit about because you've been very vocal,
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which I love about looking at the
work that you do from a mission
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perspective. And obviously you and I
have talked offline, and I know that
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you have a very deep faith perspective. We have a lot of listeners of
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that kind of run the gamut,
but not that you need to have a
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specific faith perspective to follow your work
or do the things that you're doing.
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But I think it's a large part
of your brand, and I just love
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for you to just are a little
bit about that and how that's gotten you
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to your philosophy about living the life
that you feel like you were meant to
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live, because I think it's very
it's pivotal to what differentiates you for maybe
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different other approaches. As I first
of all, I firmly believe every single
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person is set here with their own
unique mission, and I think that it
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is Your personality is a part of
it. The skills you have, the
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things that come easy to you,
like for you and I would be organizing,
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but everybody has something like that.
But I also feel like society is
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constantly bombarding us with messages, and
those aren't fluttering up our minds and our
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eyes and our ears, and so
sometimes we lose what our true purpose is.
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We can't even see it, we
can't hear it. We're just so
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busy trying to survive every day,
and we're also so busy trying to take
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care of all the stuff that we
own, and maybe we don't even want
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to own that much stuff. Most
of my clients want to pare down.
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But there's huge marketing campaigns and huge
social media campaigns every day coming into your
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world saying you need this, you
need that. This will make you prettier,
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this will make you healthier, this
will make you skinnier, this will
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make you more successful. And they're
doing a really good job. That's why
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they get paid those big bucks to
do it. And we believe it.
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We believe that if we're waking up
feeling discontented, much like I was back
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in the day when I knew that
I wasn't in the right field and I
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wasn't living with purpose, I was
trying to fill that void with other things.
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I was trying to fill that void
with this stuff and it never worked.
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And I see this all the time, but I get to work in
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really amazing holes that if you pulled
up into the driveway, you'd think,
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this woman has it all. She
must be so happy and so content.
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Her home is gorgeous on the outside, the cars are in a driveway,
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it's papped with all the things.
And she's no more content because of it.
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She's actually more overwhelmed because of it. Because stuff does not bring you
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intention or it does not bring you
true contentment or joy or anything or peace,
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none of it. And God,
God, I was going to say,
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yeah, if you can't believe me, think about the lands time you
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went to Target to grab a couple
of things and he wanted to get in
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and out the door in ten minutes. The next thing you know, you're
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going through that first little area that's
all five dollars or less. And it's
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very seasonal, and it's very geared
toward what women are thinking and feeling in
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that time of year. And maybe
it's Talloween, maybe it's spring right now,
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there's all the pastel colors. There
might be some cute Eastern things or
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organizing contain or something that's grained.
Spring cleaning, and next thing. You
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know, you leave Target with a
cartful and you're feeling pretty happy, right,
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You're freaking happy and ready to go. But then joy doesn't last for
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years or sometimes not even pass getting
it out of the car and putting it
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in your house. Yeah, there's
a reason why people call it retail therapy,
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right, Like, you're trying to
fill this void with stuff and it
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is short lived at a shallow And
again, I'm not anti shopping. I'm
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not telling people don't go just shopping
in either are you. But again,
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it's trying to use stuff to fill
that void or to lift you up,
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or to think that is going to
solve something. And then I don't know
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about you, but then you see
the aftermath of that where you're like,
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great, this didn't solve my problem. Now I have stuff, Now I've
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spent money, Now I need I
have decision fatigue because I have to figure
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out how I'm gonna store this or
what I'm going to do with this,
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and it adds on to an additional
layer of issues. And again, I
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think our goal, and I don't
want to put words in your mouth,
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is really to have people find meaning
outside of the things. Yes, because
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every single thing you own takes up
some amount of space, time, energy,
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and money. But if you can
get back those are four really important
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resources in your life that you can
get back to use and spend that on
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something very like a purpose, right
getting up every day, having more time
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and energy to fill a purpose,
or having more space for the people that
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you love in your home, having
more time to spend with those people that
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you love, having more time for
yourself, doing things at X make you
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happy. Maybe you wish you had
more time to read a book or go
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for a run or walk through dog. But the stuff requires responsibility, it
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really does, and so we want
to figure it out a way of Basically,
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any to me, clutter is anything
that is preventing you. You're getting
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in the way of you living your
most fulfilling, promisful life. And so
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you need to start deciding what aligns
with the life I want to live and
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what doesn't. And if it doesn't, it's flutter and it needs to go.
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So what do you say to somebody
that's listening out there that says,
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I don't really know my purpose,
like right now, maybe I'm somebody that
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is rounding in the weeds with littles
at home and all I'm doing is like
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diaper feed, rinse, repeat,
or maybe I am somebody who is similar
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in a similar boat to us,
where now we're entering like the empty nesting
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stage and you're like, Okay,
my life has been defined by X,
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Y, and Z, and now
that season of life is coming to an
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end and a changing. I think
for a lot of people, specifically women,
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there is the existential I don't even
know what my purpose is, right,
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Like you have a clarity. I
feel like I have a clarity of
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how I can serve the world.
But for a lot of people that don't
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have that, where do they go
to begin to find? It's an awesome
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question and it's exactly why I out
the book because I walk people through the
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process. And I've seen with working
with woman after women where we deep clutter
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and we get things in order and
we streamline their home and we make their
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home easier to maintain. All of
a sudden that brain fogs, starts to
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list, that energy starts to increase, and now they're back when they were
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a young woman where they remember how
to imagine possibilities and daydream and like,
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what do I want? What do
I want this life to look like?
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Because your life can look any way
you want to look. You have to
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start driving the car and stop being
in the passenger seat or even the back
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seat. You have to decide where
you want to go and how you want
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to use this time, this precious
resource we all have been given. How
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are we using it? And it
seems sometimes overwhelming. If you're at ground
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zero and you have no idea what
your purpose is and you want it to
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get to your purpose, my advice
to you is to start journaling, start
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daydreaming, Start giving yourself ten minutes
in the morning to imagine what it could
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look like, and start to create
this vision, which is basically like taking
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a canvas like the painting behind me
and deciding I'm going to really get specific
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on what this picture of my life
is going to look like for this season.
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I don't think we need to figure
out our entire life, Laurie.
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I think we need to figure out
this season we're in. And like you've
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mentioned, I'm going to be an
empty nus or next year. I start
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to get really sad about that a
couple of months ago, and I thought
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I have two choices. I can
either be sad and when my baby the
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youngest leaves. I can really be
in the doldrums, or I can embrace
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this new season and start to get
excited. And that's when I rebranded because
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I asked myself, what do I
want practice what I preached? So I
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stopped and I said, I can
make this season look like anything. What
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do I want it to be?
I gave myself many days to think and
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journal and pray and debate, and
then I took action. And you know,
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but who knows. You're never going
to know how it turns out.
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But taking action gives you that feeling
that you are driving a car and you
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are on control. I love it. And so if somebody's out there and
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says, okay, I want to
start doing this whatever season. Obviously there's
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so many different approaches in schools of
thoughts, like practically, how where to
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start? Right? Where do you
start the decluttering plazas? Right? Because
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I think again, like you said, it's so much easier when you have
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a blank campus, right when you
declutter your closet and you go, let
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me imagine what I want to add
back in? Is so which better than
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or easier than trying to navigate through
all of the minutia. So what are
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your give us a few different tips
if you will that you might say,
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if somebody's listening to this, says, I want to start like I've been
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on this hamster wheel. I've been
going through Groundhog's Day. I'm not happy
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where I am. I want to
make a change. Yeah, First,
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get some sort of accountability. That's
just the bottom line. That's why there
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are coaches. That's why there are
programs. Because when I wanted to level
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up my business, what did I
do? I got a business coach that
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would help me level up my business
because there was things that I need to
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learn that I didn't know. And
I believe we're all experts on something,
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and I'm like the biggest fan,
and you want to learn something good the
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expert that's already done it, and
she'll teach you how to do it.
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It saves a lot of time and
energy, so that gives you accountability,
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and if you have accountability, you
will start doing it instead of just dreaming
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about it, wishing, wanting,
and hoping someday it happens. Number two
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is get very serious about planning out
your time because this is how things happen.
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This is when you look at someone's
life and you see this life over
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here, and you're like, man, they made a difference, they made
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an impact, they made people feel
good, they helped people. They did
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this and now and then you see
somebody else that didn't. It's how they
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use their time. And so it's
planning out your time, getting very specific,
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putting boundaries around your time. I
love this is one of my favorite
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things. At the beginning of the
year. I take the week and I
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use colored time blocks as what I
want my week to live life instead of
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letting life dictate what it looks like. And then I'd still in the information
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based on Okay, here's the time
block for working out. Even call it
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working out, I'd call it healthy
living. And it's green. And that
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can be reading my Bible. It
could be working out on the elliptothal,
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it could be taking my dog for
a while. It's all the things.
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It could be massage. But I'm
going to make sure that I put something
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in there, because that's how you
know you're living a balones' life. You're
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taking care of all the things.
Then I'll have family time, work time,
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all the stuff. And if you
ask me if I can do something
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doing one of those time blocks,
I'm no undred percent fine was saying the
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word, and oh if I don't
want to do it and it doesn't align
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with my priorities. So get very
clear on your priorities. And then when
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it comes to the actual organizing,
like the physical organizing, you need to
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shrink it down, like you need
to narrow in on the tiniest spots and
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do not move on until you complete
it from beginning to end. Because I
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think a lot of times people get
pumped up. They'll hear like an episode
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like this, or go to a
retreat or our conference. You're like,
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yes, I'm going to get home
and this weekend, I'm going to organize
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the whole house. It doesn't work
that way. I don't want to pop
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your bubble, but it literally does
not work that way. You need to
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think about this as a marathon and
training, so small, tiny, micro
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organizing. And maybe it's the kitchen
drawer, two kitchen drawers, wanting cooking
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dinner, and we've set a timer
for twenty minutes, and when the timer
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goes off, you're done. You
did something to move the needle. And
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then tomorrow and you can do two
covers and next one the kitchen is completely
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done. You can go to the
laundry. But you can't just you have
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that squirrel mentality where you're like doing
a little here, a little there.
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That doesn't work because that way,
when we just touch it a little bit,
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it never gets fully erased off our
to do list. Absolutely, And
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I mean if people are long time
listeners of our show, either're like,
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it's like listening to me, because
it's a very similar philosophy and approach about
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staying focused on the area, And
understandably for some people that's harder to do,
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Like it's your naturally be like and
do a little bit here, and
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I want to do a little bit
here, but then you're spending ten hours
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across ten different spots as opposed to
saying I'm going to focus in this one
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particular area and go deep and really
be able to check that off the list
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and start to have that progress.
I love everything that you said, and
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I'm a big time blocker as well
and taking ownership absolutely. And it's again
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and we're going to touch on this
because I think it's a really important part
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of the equation, which is about
finances. But I whenever I talk about
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time blocking and building in that margin
for your own healthy living, I love
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how you approach that where you're like, it could look a little bit different.
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It could be I'm taking a walk. It could be I'm going to
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the gym. It could be that
I'm just reading a book or reading the
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Vible or whatever it is that I'm
catching up with a friend, whatever it
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looks like to you to build that
time in, because just like when you
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talk about saving money, if you
wait till the reserves are left over,
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there's never anything left over. We're
just now ever is there's always a fire
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to be put out. There's always
something else that's going to hop up on
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your to do list. So if
you're not proctor in carving out and prioritizing
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those things that are important to you, they just won't happen. They're just
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not going to I don't mean to
be a semic. I just that's how
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I feel like. You have to
put them on there. Yeah, it's
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like the law. This is how
it works the same for everybody. And
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it also gives me. I don't
know if you feel this way, but
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when I allocate my time and I
say I'm going to be focusing in,
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for me, my mornings are like
the time where I will read, chill
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out, just to have a little
bit slower time. And then I will
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also make like personal phone calls if
we have to make a doctor appointment or
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take the car and to get service. Then I move into work mode.
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I have work mode, and then
after that it like shifts into a different
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area. And then I also do
a lot of volunteer work, and so
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I have certain pockets of my day
or of my week that are dedicated to
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that. So when something comes in, whether it's an email or a phone
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call or something, I know,
unless it's something that is urgently time sensitive,
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I know exactly to where and when
to respond to that, as opposed
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to getting sucked in and going you
know what. I know that I'll address
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this, but I'll address it at
four o'clock when that is my time to
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do that. And it gives me
permission to say, I don't have to
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respond to this right now because I
know when I will absolutely and it's less
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mental clutter because I well want to
do all the things right now because they're
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afraid they'll forget because they don't have
a system that's efficient. They don't have
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a management that you and I have
a time manage system, so we know
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when we're doing what we know.
When we're answering emails and bone calls,
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we're not afraid that if we don't
do it this second, we'll forget because
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we already have a time block.
Such a good point, because I think
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fear is a really big thing for
people, and it is if you have
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a solid system. And I'm not
saying that my system's right or your systems
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right, but I think if you
have a consistent system that you continually maintain
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and stick with it, that's the
key differentiator. Well, I don't care
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if you do it on your phone, if you do it in a paper
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planner, as long as it's something
that you are continually doing. I think
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that is really what makes the hugest
difference in the world, do you honestly,
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Lauren, By saying it that way, it makes me think of all
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the systems, like all the systems
for clothes, system for grocery. When
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they come in, you know how
to put your groceries away so you're not
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eating, letting things go to waste
or gift buying. Folidate time. The
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more organized you are, the more
systems you have for maintenance, and that
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makes life easier. It just does, because you know what you're doing okay,
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this is where I put my baking
ingredients. So if you just do
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it on autopilot, you're not going
in and shoving everything into your pantry when
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you get home from the grocery store. And then it comes time to bake
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a cake and you have three different
areas to look in you know where to
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look. I think it comes down
for me when you're just talking. It
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comes to that intentionality piece. It's
doing things with intention or as you say,
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doing it on purpose. And when
you have that level of intentionality in
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these specific areas or in any area
of your life, that's when things tend
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to happen. It would be more
productive and you have a more proactive role
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in it as opposed to being reactive, because again, so many of us
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are just living on autopilot because our
lives are either overscheduled or we just have
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too much on our plate or whatever
the reason is. And when you can
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start to take that proactive approach.
I always tell people we all have systems,
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either by design or by default.
They could be poor systems, right
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like your system might be a hot
mass, but we all have patterns that
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we follow. And if you're going
to have them, either way, I
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would rather see somebody take a proactive
approach to it and create the system that
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they want, as opposed to being
like, yeah, our system is we
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don't plan for dinner and then at
six o'clock we're all starving and we just
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grab whatever or order out all the
time because that's our plan. And then
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a faulting system like the bleeds into
another faulting system. So now you're eating
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out all the time, you're not
organizing and managing your money. And then
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also that bleeds to more mental clutter
because you feel guilt and shame and you
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feel like you just can't get ahead. So it just keeps on going the
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hamster wheel. Yeah, that's mentioned. Going out to dinner every night would
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rob you of a lot of time
being away from home, so it just
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keeps on going. Yeah, I'm
looking at my notes because one of the
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things that you talk about in the
book is about the purpose for money,
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and it's an area that I'm super
passionate about as well about people again taking
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control of their finances not having financial
clutter. I've expanded on my three core
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types of clutter that I talk about, physical, emotional, calendar. I
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still think those are the three main
buckets. But then you have digital clutter,
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financial clutter, the mental clutter,
which is all that mental load of
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things that we're that we are struggling
with caring every day. And I'm just
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wondering if you could talk a little
bit about how you approach the financial clutter
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and disorganization and the impacts for our
listeners. Well, you have to face
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your clutter. And I find the
financial clutter, well don't want to face
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it. They don't really dig into
it and look at it with and get
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an honest snapshot of what it is, because it's scary and it's fearful and
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you feel laugh usually, and so
what do you do? You just avoid
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it, and then it grows.
That depth grows, and I am,
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and I talk about in the book. I am. It's all about ten
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P principles, and one of the
P principles is practicing stewardship. So I
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believe it's not I think, why
should you be asking for more money if
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you're not taking proper care and responsibility
of the money you currently have, And
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if you can't keep the money you
have now organized and have an efficient system
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for that, you're not going to
be able to handle more money. You
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just not And so you have to
be really careful of being grateful for the
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little or the lot whatever you have. Now you have to I don't care
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if you see a quarter on a
sidewalk, don't just kick it away.
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It's money, and that energy and
in the gratitude of it will be a
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life change for you. So you
need to get a system. I can't
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believe how many people I work with
Laurie that don't have a budget, like
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a body. Don't need to get
me started on that. You can have
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a whole episode. We should have
a whole episode out about organizing money because
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we do like a weaponar. Can
we do a webinar? We didn't really
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should And because you're passionate about it, and I'm passionate about it, it's
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like I've learned. I remember,
and here's the true I remember when I
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first left my carpet job instead of
my organizing business. And then I was
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doing really well in Charlotte, and
then we moved back to where we are
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from and everybody like back down,
They're like, what's the professional organized?
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It's gonna take a hot minute to
grow this. So I start. I
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went back to corporate America, and
when I had my second child, I
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decided I didn't have anybody I felt
comfortable leading with him, so I quit
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my job. At a time,
I was the breadwinner. We were new
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back to the state, and I
told my husband, nobody's watching this baby,
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I'm putting my job, but Facebook
like and shop. So I remember
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putting my groceries on my credit card
a couple of times, like I was
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so ashamed and I was so upset, but I just stuck with it because
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to me, it was more important
to be with my kids. And that's
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when my organizing business really took off
because it had to, right. I
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had to focus on it. So
I understand not wanting to look at your
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bank statements or your credit card statements. I can get it, But you
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can take your power back if you
get your money organized and having some sort
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of system, just like you would
with a physical item and putting it into
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containers. Your money needs to be
allocated to categories in your budget which think
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of them as a container, right, So this amount of money goes and
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this container every month, this goes, and this. If you've ever used
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the envelope system, my husband and
I practiced, Dave Ramsey's financial piece for
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years. I still do cash an
envelope when I can, and I just
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love it. But it's like it
tells, it basically tells me, just
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like with the time blocks, it
says, I decide what goes in this
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time blood, I decide what goes
in this cash envelope. I decide where
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my money goes. And that makes
me feel calm and in control rather than
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the days where I was like,
what the hell is that want to go
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on? Or where all and running
to go? I didn't know. Now
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I know, and it's hard.
It's easy, but it's hard to practice.
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And I'm like, again, come
from the same exact perspective as you,
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and I know it's hard to look
in the mirror. If you've ever
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kept a food diary, people,
if you've ever kept a food diet,
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and you're like, I'm see and
then you write it down and you're like,
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yeah, I graze those M and
m's, I finished the chicken nuggets,
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I fill in the blank, all
done some level of that. And
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when you're talking about your finances and
you're like, I fend that much money.
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I just stopped at Starbucks and I
spent five dollars and thirty five cents,
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and then I went through the drive
through and I just got this and
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I whatever it is, and I'm
not here to shame anybody, but it's
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that again, it's that accountability and
that intentionality. And once you can face
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that in the mirror, and you
could fill in the blank for shopping,
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you could fill in the blank for
whether it's clothes shopping, or going to
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home goods and going to target off
the dollar or aisle. All of these
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things they add up to different buckets
of clutter. And that's what you talk
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about, and that's what I talk
about, and there it to me.
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I find it's more like death by
thousand cuts. It's not the one thing
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that broke the bank. It's not
the one thing that set your pant,
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your closet into overload, or that
one thing that set your calendar into a
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tizzy. It's all of these habbits
or poor patterns of behavior that have led
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you to this place of overwell,
yeah, and overwhelms the number one word.
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I hear. You hear the same
things. But the cool thing is,
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even if you don't know how to
do it today, you can't learn
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and just the fact of deciding to
make a change. It's starting to get
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your life organized does start to fire
you up. You will see you could
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physically see the change, right,
And it's like that teaches you that if
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I could get this organized, if
I could get rid of this credit card
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bill, if I could do these
things, then you can do it all.
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You just have to stay consistent and
stay motivated. But when it comes
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to the money getting organized, that
is a huge form of flutter, and
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we note flutter weighs us down.
And it's just like dragging a suitcase around
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packed with bricks, your whole entire
life to meet. That's visually what I
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see flattery as. And so you
can decide I'm going to get rid of
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this brick. I'm gonna get rid
of that brick, and you can make
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that journey lighter. But you have
to see the big why in and you
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have to realize that you're preventing your
delaying the gratification by not starting. I'm
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all so the different types of clutter
are all intertwined. Right. The less
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you shop mindlessly, think again,
if you need to go shopping. But
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like, the more that you can
be intentional about your shopping, the more
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fiscally responsible you're gonna beat. The
more money you're gonna have on your bank
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account, the less debt you're gonna
be it. So they're all related.
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And then again, the more that
you are aware of your finances, the
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less you're going to just spend because
or go shopping just without because you know
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that you are trying to reach a
goal. So whether the financial is the
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driver, whether it's my closets filled
with clutter and that's the driver, they
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all inner relate. And so once
you start building momentum in one area,
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I feel like it's so much easier
to gain momentum in the other areas.
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Oh my gosh. Absolutely, and
int you can make it a fun game,
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like, you can make them really
fun. I know people are probably
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like, wait, this isn't gonna
be fun, but think about it.
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It's I've always had a spreadsheet going
of a debt, the old debt snowball.
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I've always watched you buy something and
you want to get it paid off.
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You can figure out ways to pay
it off quicker by selling clutter.
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We all have these things at our
house. We don't meet that you can.
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I don't care if it's ten dollars
here and ten dollars there them can
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really put a debt in your financial
to the whole. You can cut away
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a big snowball of debt with getting
rid of plutter. So you're benefiting in
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two different ways, and you can
think about it with weight. Weight gain
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is a big form of clutter.
I was actually teaching up presentation last night
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to a group of women that were
in a weight loss program, and I
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was explaining how excess weight is a
form of clutter. It's getting between you
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and your best life and you have
to shed it right, just like we
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have to shed all these other forms
of flutters. But it's a step by
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step process and you have to stick
with it until you see results. Once
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you see results, I feel like
then you start to get more excited.
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It's like I say that all the
time. I always say, I wish
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if I knew, if I was
going to start this whatever weight loss program,
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if I could have a crystal ball
to say, if you stick with
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this in ten weeks, here's the
progress that you're going to have. I
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wish me not a crystal ball to
show my clients, because again, so
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many people are out there listening that
are like I've tried, and I've been
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unsuccessful. I've tried and I've quit. I've tried and something unexpected has come
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up in my life to be a
roadblock of hurdle, make it difficult,
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and like I get it, and
you get that, and I think what
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the message is, it's the just
get getting back up, trying to just
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pick an area, don't try to
do it all. Pick an area and
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just start with those small, functionable
things that are going to help you build
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that momentum. Absolutely, and one
other things I really encourage people to do.
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If you're just like, as you
know what happens, they'll want to
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organize something. Let's say like the
kitchen cabinets. Just let's say that there's
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so many things in there. So
for you and I, our brain sees
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the project done, like we see
the potential and we know, okay,
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we see the puzzle. The puzzle
over here is done, so now I
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know where to put what pieces right. But people that are doing us for
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a living and they're not doing it
every day and they don't have this munch
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expertise. They just see a bunch
of puzzled pieces and they're just like,
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I don't know how to put these
together. I don't know what quits work,
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so you know what, have less
puzzled pieces? Okay, kind try
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it. Simply get it a big
bin, throwing everything that you don't use
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every single week and put it in
there, and get the cupboard how you
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ideally want them to look where they're
just simple. It's easy to put the
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dishes away out the dishwasher. It
looks nice, it makes you'll know when
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you get there because you'll have this
feeling of aha, that looks good,
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and then live without the stuff in
the bin for a couple of weeks.
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It can be that simple. And
can I add to that Also, if
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you're somebody that really like struggles with
that vision, right, you're like,
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I just my brain doesn't work like
that, right, I'm just that's not
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how my brain works. It's okay, get somebody, whether it's a professional
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organizer and whether it's asking a friend
who's got a different perspective. Like,
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there's so many ways that you can
like, I am not an overly like
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artistic person or I'm not musical,
but there are things that I'm like,
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I know that I might want something
that I don't have that intuitively within myself,
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that's just not how my brain is
wired. And so if I'm trying
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to get something that's in that area, I will ask for help, whether
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a professional or just somebody in my
network of people who do have that skill
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that can help me, because we
are all unique and we all have certain
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gifts, and some of us just
not that this is an learned skill,
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because I do believe that organizing is
a large scale. It just comes easier
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to some people than others. Und
percent I agree. I think I was
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laughing because you're like, I'm not
necessarily artsy or fine. I'm like me
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either. My brain sees order.
So everybody hands their guests and we need
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to. And there's somebody in your
life that loves this like we do.
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Like somebody love there's look around,
ask around because you don't have to do
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it by yourself. And then maybe
there's something. Maybe you love gardening and
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you can help your girlfriend garden house. That's such a good one because I
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had for years I had the black
thumb. I was like, to bring
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your living plant here. I can
keep a kid alive, but a plant
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that's a whole other. That's a
whole other ballgate. How our listeners,
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obviously, we could talk about this
all day long. I love the stuff
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that you do, because there's so
many parallels in just our approach, the
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way that we teach, and really
you're about lifting people up and I just
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love that, really trying to help
people. Even if you don't love clutter,
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what you or you don't love organizing, what we all know is clutter
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holes from living our best lives.
And that's I think what you want to
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convey to your people is don't let
clutter stand in the way of living the
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life that you were meant to be
exactly. And nobody's going to remember you
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for how many shoes you own.
No, that doesn't count. Stuff doesn't
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know. We've never talked about stuff
that people own. When they pass on,
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they talk about how you made them
feel, the times we spent together,
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the memories that were created, how
they help other people. It's never
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about the stuff, because I really
think it's so profound to remind ourselves that
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we come in empty handed and we
leave empty handed. So why are we
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breaking our backs for all this stuff? And I say that living in a
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home that has things. I love
you and I are not minimalists. I
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think sometimes people think, oh,
you must be a minimalist. You don't
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love stuff. No, I'm very
particular about what stuff I can have around
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me, and when it doesn't serve
me anymore, I'm very willing to have
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an open hand and let it go. And one thing I want to say,
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Laurie is that in the book Another
Pas privilege Giving, because I truly
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believe with the amount of stuff and
you can attuch to that that we see
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in people's closets and basements and addicts, it's not being touched or used,
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it's not loved or use. There's
no reason why anybody in this country should
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be going without anything else. It's
just we have to get in the closet
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and pass it on. And so
I feel like, if you need an
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extra dose of motivation, look around
your local community and tie your heart to
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some nonprofit that needs the stuff that
you're not using. And I'm definitely not
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somebody. I'm all about the little
guys like the little small lund profits,
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the domestic violence programs, the Habitans
or Hummunity, Goodwill, Salvation Army get
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everything. They don't need more help. It's really these little mom and pops
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that are even you're in local school
nurse, they need both kids kids to
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have BAC says they need more clothes, or the foster families. I mean,
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I was gonna say, I believe
if you look in your local neighborhoods
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you know your local just google,
even if you don't know them, there
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are there's somebody that's creating backpacks for
kids that in foster care that getting put
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or you said SPCA taking old linens
or a blankets and towels for animals.
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Nobody knows what an or. I
also own a consignment event and so I
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see these charity do the consignment of
that. Yeah, and it's so cool
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because they need everything from home goods
to maybe equipment, to close shoes Hampman
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and to everything. We fill up
chuckloads. And it's because these fans that
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they first sold their stuff to get
some money and pay off their bills and
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things like that or afford what they
need to the next season, and then
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after that they let it go to
charity. And I believe that the more
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we have just these open hands,
the more will come to you also.
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But you can't let go of things
with a clenched fist and fear of living
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like maybe this could have it?
What if I need it? What if
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this? What if that? You
can't be like that. You just have
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to be like blessing, goodbye,
and if I need it again, I'll
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find it. And that's and the
other thing I say on top of that
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is, the money's already been spent, right, you're the money's already been
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spent, whether it's you know what, I don't wear those jeans or those
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shoes anymore, or you know what, I bought this whatever thing for the
610
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kitchen and I thought I would use
it and I really don't. And it's
611
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just taking up space, film,
the play. We all have these things,
612
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:59.719
and the money's book. It's gone. Right, So now are you
613
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going to keep this as a reminder? Are you continue to be rate yourself
614
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for having this thing that is not
serving you and have a take up space
615
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:14.320
or can you just again let it
go, pay forward, let it serve
616
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somebody else. And I think again, there's so many reasons. We talk
617
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about guilt, We talk about the
shame, we talk about all of the
618
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.920
different reasons that hold us, bounce
from us, that fear, what if
619
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I needed again, all these things
that hold us back from letting things go.
620
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.599
And when you really can just make
peace about that, it just gives
621
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you a freedom and a levity to
just make decisions and have that almost permission,
622
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:44.000
like feeling like I have permission to
let this go absolutely and let me
623
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:50.360
ask you a questions because I'm curious
and I know that I have not experienced
624
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:53.719
this. I'm wondering, how many
times have you seen somebody that owns like
625
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:59.320
a collection of something where they keep
it because it's worth money or it's going
626
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:04.679
to be worse something someday. How
many times have you seen that actually happened,
627
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.119
but where then it actually turns into
something with money, turns into money.
628
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:12.719
Oh, I don't think I've ever
had anybody. Now I will say
629
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I don't necessarily I don't deal with
resale, so in my experience, like,
630
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.280
I am not an expert in things. So if you did have a
631
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collection of some like particular china that
was and I'm not talking about no offense
632
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.519
people, I'm not talking about your
Lenox china that you got when you But
633
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:35.360
I'm saying, like something that's a
really high end or some antique or whatever
634
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.239
that really is. I would refer
a client that really had something that was
635
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:45.000
truly valuable to somebody that was like
an antique specialist or resaler in that particular
636
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.280
area because I don't know, like
I'm a commoner, but I will say,
637
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.679
more often than not, most people
think their stuff is worth more than
638
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:57.760
it is. Again that collection of
Beanie Babies, the collection of barbies,
639
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:00.679
the collection And again I don't want
to never be responsible to say, yeah,
640
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.199
I don't think you need to hold
onto the box for the American Girl
641
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:07.519
doll. But if you really,
what is your space worth to you?
642
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:09.159
And that's what I always try to
tell people. Also, what is your
643
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:15.239
space worth? And what's your time
to put for top dollar for these items?
644
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.159
It's varied, time consuming, yes, but also seeing many collections when
645
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.920
we've gotten to a point where the
house is being sold or the person's passed
646
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:28.480
on, or there's in the state
sale, and these collections where they board
647
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:35.800
funds and tons of money into it
are not worth much, especially nowadays because
648
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.159
we live in a more disposable society. We talk about that all the time.
649
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:43.519
Yeah, so be careful if you're
thinking I'm going to hang on to
650
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.159
all these things because they're worth money, they're not worth The money does not
651
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:52.119
go onto your bank account if you
don't find someone too that will trade you
652
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:58.199
the item for money. Yeah,
So it being worth money is fictitious in
653
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.760
your mind unless you actually find something
that will aid you those dollars. And
654
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:06.000
so if that, if you're not
willing to do all the work and put
655
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.480
the effort in, I end a
client. One time we had an entire
656
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:17.639
rule designated to Porson dolls. There
was thousands that creepy that's at it tends
657
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.079
of receipts. We couldn't even give
them away. Yeah, we couldn't.
658
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:28.280
We couldn't. I found a Porson
down museum and they took five. Wow,
659
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.280
And it was like this full entire
rule was dedicated to it. And
660
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.840
I can't even imagine the money.
All I can say is I hope it
661
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:40.440
brought her a lot of joy.
Yeah, tell our listeners before we take
662
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our last break, tell our listeners
if they want to learn either about your
663
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online coaching, buy the ball,
listen to your show. Just like where
664
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is the best place for them to
go to? Yeah, book, It's
665
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called makeroom and on every normal ways
you can buy books. And then I
666
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:04.880
have my website Jennifer ford Berry dot
com, all my Instagram, Facebook,
667
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.639
everything is Jennifer ford Berry ford like
the chock berry, like the fruit.
668
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So it's v E R Y.
And then now there's courses programs. I
669
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work one on one with people.
I do a group coaching program called the
670
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Created Order Neighborhood where we meet every
week, and I have like self paced
671
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:28.440
courses so they can do all that
and we are I'll be having I'm one
672
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of the co founders of a retreat
coming up this fall, caught the Focus
673
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Retreat, So we go to the
Focused Retreat dot com registration is going to
674
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open up to the public on April
first. So now I saw it.
675
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It's at so beautiful. Was it
like a farm I looked at I was
676
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like, oh my god, villained
inherentce word Kentucky and it's so serene.
677
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And so if you're just feeling like
overwhelmed, like you need to get away
678
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and spend some time focusing and trying
to figure out what your purpose is.
679
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.320
Right, Yeah, and this is
the awesome well of linked to all things
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Jennifer Forberry in our show notes our
podcast page. So don't worry about writing
681
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it all down. We fetch a
cupboard, We're going to take quick break,
682
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:13.719
come back, put in our hot
seat for wrap up questions, So
683
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sit tight. How many of you
have ever thought I have absolutely nothing to
684
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wear, even though you're staring at
a rack filled with clothes. If that's
685
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you, you are absolutely not alone. I dreaded shopping. I dreaded the
686
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thought of shopping until I met my
friend Janie Stiff McWhinney, who's the founder
687
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of Your Color Guru. Your Color
Guru looks at your personalized style, hair
688
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color, eye color complexion and helps
match what color schemes look best for you.
689
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So instead of sitting there buying things
that you think are going to look
690
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good or that you hope look good, get actually allows you to shop freely
691
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within the guise of saying these are
the colors that make you look your best,
692
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which, quite frankly, who doesn't
want to look their best? So
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she put together a special coupon code
for this organized life listeners, and I
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can tell you that I've been getting
tons of thank you notes from people saying
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this has completely revolutionized how they shop
and allowed them to make smarter choices when
696
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they are going to whether it's online
shopping or in person shopping. So I
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encourage you to check this out.
Visit her website, Your Color Guru,
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and she gives a special promo code
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just punch in the code Organized Life
and you can get ten percent off your
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consultation. I am telling you it
is a game changer. It was a
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game changer for me, and it
is a game changer for all of the
702
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people who I know have been working
with her for the past two years.
703
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So definitely check it out and when
you talk to her, make sure to
704
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tell her that I say you all
right, Jennifer. So of course,
705
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.960
it's always a pleasure of having you
on our show. Your enthusiasm and knowledge
706
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:08.280
and wisdom is just infectious, and
I love sharing all the things that you're
707
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:14.280
doing with our people. On that
note, we know that you've inspired a
708
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.079
lot of people in this particular,
Like where you are in your life,
709
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:22.719
is there a book that you've read
or either that you come back to or
710
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:28.199
something that you're currently reading that's really
been transformational, or something that you just
711
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.480
want to share with our listeners for
them to go and say, hey,
712
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I think this has really been a
game changer for me. So I have
713
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:43.159
gotten like even more into mindset than
I've ever been in my life because I'm
714
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.440
just at that point in my life
where I have big goals and like we
715
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:50.920
mentioned, my kids are going off
and I like things that I might have
716
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.199
more time for than I didn't used
to have time for us. But there's
717
00:51:53.199 --> 00:52:00.039
this little book buying Nicole Crank called
Goal Getters, and basically this is the
718
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.639
gist of it. And I have
been doing this for probably three years.
719
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:12.079
I think it's basically taught me to
every morning write down the five goals that
720
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:17.239
I'm working towards currently in my life
and writing them down as if they're already
721
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:22.079
happening. So instead of yeah,
so instead of saying I want to have
722
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:28.599
a to be more fit in tongue, you write it out like I am
723
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:32.039
living a fit and healthy lifestyle.
Your brain doesn't know the difference, right,
724
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:35.840
So the more you write it and
the more you're reading it your brains,
725
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.119
I'm living a fit and healthy lifestyle. And what happens is you start
726
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:45.000
to embody the person that you're becoming, right because you tell yourself that every
727
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:50.039
morning, So you don't want to
not act like that person because it's not
728
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.719
someday I'm going to be a fit
and healthy person, No, I am
729
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.840
right now today. And a fit
and healthy person takes her butt to the
730
00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:00.480
gym and a fit and healthy person
doesn't eat dream every single light, only
731
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:04.679
two nights a week. That's like
my Marrin thing in the world. I
732
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:07.199
love this because you can apply it
for people that are struggling with clone.
733
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.320
You could say, I live in
organized light, and what are the things
734
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:14.039
that somebody who lives in organized life
does. They don't buy things mindlessly,
735
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:15.719
they don't they let go of things, and they don't need them anymore.
736
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.119
So I love this because you can
apply it. Yeah. I just actually
737
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:22.920
Laurie did an episode I think it
was last week the week before how to
738
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:29.760
embody an organized persons. And you
can do this with anything. If you're
739
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.840
trying to level up with money and
you decide, okay, I want to
740
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:37.519
get to this level of income.
What does that girl look like, how
741
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.400
does she behave, what does she
talk like, how does she dress,
742
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:43.800
how does she behave, how does
she treat others, how does she what
743
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.440
does her home look like? How
was she a steward? Things like that.
744
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:52.800
So it just is so empowering.
And what's really cool is when it
745
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:57.320
really happens because you've wrote it out
for so long and all of a sudden,
746
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.079
oh, this is my reality now, and so I'll go, I
747
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.280
can highlight and then I'll replace it. Always do five, I'll replace it
748
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.519
with a new one. And it's
just you're always evolved. Oh, I
749
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:09.679
love it. I love it.
I think that's I think that's super.
750
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.639
I think it's a It's again another
way to help keep you accountable, help
751
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:22.639
keep you motivated, help really just
having that tangible accountability, like by writing
752
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.960
it down, which I love.
All right. Yeah, last two questions,
753
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:30.280
last two questions in this particular season
of your life. And I know
754
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:31.880
this is gonna be tough, but
I'd like to ask this question for organizers
755
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:37.559
because again we're not picture perfect.
So there are areas where we struggle right
756
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:39.119
now in this season of your life. Where do you feel the most organized?
757
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.639
But also where do you feel like
a little bit of a hot mess?
758
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:45.480
All right, So first of all, hot masks. Yeah, we'll
759
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:52.920
freely emit right now. Is photos? Oh, because I'm planning for a
760
00:54:52.320 --> 00:55:00.480
graduation priority this summer and I feel
like I take way too many photos and
761
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:04.280
I was more organized when I printed
them out back in the day they were
762
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.599
all in photo albums. And now
just released a whole episode on digital clutter
763
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:14.920
today drops people because it's true.
It's invisible clutter like it's just it's on
764
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.119
your phone and before you know it, you've got ten thousand pictures. And
765
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:21.519
I'm so sick of every device telling
me like, oh, you're getting close
766
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.039
to the limit, and I'm like, I don't have time, so I
767
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:27.840
don't want to get rid of my
photos right now, but I know I'll
768
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.079
be handling it because I need to
do the slideshow and all the things for
769
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:36.559
this grand party. But I feel
like there needs to be a better something.
770
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:38.239
We have to We gotta put our
heads together, Laurie and figure out
771
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:45.480
like a new simple program or device
for photos, because we're all drowning in
772
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.440
these digitals. One of the things
that I want, and somebody's gonna just
773
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:51.519
take this and run with it,
and I have no here, godspeed,
774
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.840
but I you know how your devices
will identify if you've got like a duplicate
775
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:00.639
contact and be like you want to
merge the colm act. I want them
776
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:06.960
to take you have six copies of
the same picture, and I wanted to
777
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:12.639
just AI recognize which one is the
best one of all, where people are
778
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:16.559
like, this one's not looking,
this one's what's that this is the only
779
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:22.199
product I found that will actually do
that. So it's already been to set
780
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.559
develop it. You guys are gonna
all love me when it's freaking company.
781
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:30.320
Should love me right now. But
yeah, really that the photos that they
782
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.559
send you this for your computer,
Okay, send you this, look at
783
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:38.960
they're all different, they'll fit into
all different like yeah, and it basically
784
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:45.280
takes it and it like, yeah, there's all your photos. Yeah,
785
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:50.039
and Ben, it will be running
and it will tell you which ones are
786
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.079
dufal kids and do you want to
erase them? So even with this little
787
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:59.280
guy, do you use Yes?
I do, But I still that it
788
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.880
will get it will gather them and
it will get rid of duplepits. But
789
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:06.800
I still need to make sure I
put them in the right folders because if
790
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:10.119
you think about a photo album,
yeah it's okay, this is our twenty
791
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:14.920
twenty two, like it's if you
stuck to do that digitally, you have
792
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.280
to know how to spind the photos. I do that every year. It's
793
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:21.159
like a project or do it at
that every year? Aren't you the best
794
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:28.039
organizer? I what? I am? Never sat here and another years online.
795
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:30.719
I'll do that someday. But yeah, this is why I'm ex photos,
796
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:35.480
I don't feel Oh god, who
and I do for a living?
797
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:38.360
Yeah? Exactly? All right,
but let's let's end on a high note
798
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:43.119
because we know that you are.
You have it together in ninety nine percent
799
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:45.679
of your life. So of the
amazing areas that you aren't organized, where
800
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:51.000
do you feel like you're really thriving. I'm still like I'm really thriving with
801
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:57.679
my time management because I get stuff
done, Like I don't. I accept
802
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.119
my mind to something and I do
it. I water it down into the
803
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:04.239
smaller steps, and I figure out
a plan, and I, like I
804
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:07.480
said, with the system I use
for my time. That was a snap,
805
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:09.679
a little snippet of how I do
my time. End make sure,
806
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:14.119
but I feel like I am in
control of my time. And if you're
807
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:15.559
in control of your time, then
you can do anything. You can do
808
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:19.599
any organizing project, you can build, any business, you can write any
809
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:22.280
book, you can create the family
you want. Really, twenty four hours,
810
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.280
we're all gifted to us equally.
It's what we do with that that
811
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:30.079
matters. I love it. That's
a perfect place to end, Jennifer,
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Thank you so much for coming back
on our show. Thanks for all that
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you do for people out there helping
them find their purpose get rid of the
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unnecessary in their lives, and I
appreciate you so thanks so much, And
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Welcome to This Organized Life. If
you're a mom, wife, or coffee
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lovers seeking advice on how to reduce
clutter and reclaim time, look no further
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than your host, Laurie Palou,
Founder Simply Be Organized, an author of
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hot Mess, a practical guide to
getting organized For a lot of people.
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Clutter is our dirty little secret,
but it doesn't have to be. Each
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week we will share practical tips,
chat with experts, and provide strategies on
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how to keep you organized. I
hope that by sharing our stories you feel
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a little less alone and more empowered
to tackle the areas that are holding you
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back. So let's get started.
Hi everybody, and welcome to today's episode
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of This Organized Life podcast. I
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before we get into today's episode,
I just want to make sure that you
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guys all know about our Tip of
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want to learn about. And speaking
of which, I have a great guest
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for you today. If you're an
OG. She's been on our show before,
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but she's my fellow organizer from back
in the day and she's an author.
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She's got a huge platform in the
organizing space. And my friend Jennifer
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for Barry and Jennifer, if you
don't know where, she's going to come
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out and talk about herself a little
bit and give us her background. She
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is a best selling author. Her
series, the Organized Now series again you
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can buy it wherever you want,
is phenomenal to help people get and stay
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motivated to be organized and she's a
new book that was recently released called make
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Room Take Control of Your space,
time, energy, and money to live
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on Purpose. And I love everything
that she does, so I invited her
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to come back on our show to
talk all about what she's been up to
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about her new book, Who's at
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to live your best life. So, without further ado, let me welcome
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my friend Jennifer back to the show. Thank you, Laurie. I'm so
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excited better I am excited to have
you here. So I know were I
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was just recorded an episode to be
on your show. You've gone through a
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huge rebranding. Some of your our
listeners might know you from the twenty nine
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minute mom right was that what the
Nata? Yes? And now you've rebranded
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your podcast to be the Make Room
Show. Correct, And I'm wondering if
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you could just talk a little bit
about that and the stuff that you've been
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up to. But before we get
into all those things, just tell our
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listeners a little bit about you.
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organizing gig for almost twenty literally right
around twenty years because my daughter was a
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baby and now she's twenty one.
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if someone of them told me this
when I graduated college, I was like,
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da, out of here, what
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be in corporate America working for these
big companies. Not working for myself was
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never on my radar. But after
I tried that route, I was not
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fulfilled. I was not content,
and I knew every day when I woke
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up that life was feeling like just
a let movie Groundholm's day. That's literally
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how I fell. And I thought, I'm young, like, I can't
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spend the rest of my career feeling
this way. There has to be more
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to this. I have to wake
up feeling excited if I'm going to go
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to work every day for the banks, you know, thirty forty years.
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And so I started doing like a
deep dive into myself of what am I
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passed them about. I remember that
was like the number one question I'd asked
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to myself. And I won't bore
you with all the inner journey, but
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I got to look like where I
realized I was born to organize. I
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always have loved to do it.
It's something that comes easy for me.
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It brings me joy and happiness.
It helps me feel like I'm doing something
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positive for somebody else. And I
always joke that I was like the kid
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that wanted to clean her room.
Coop. I was like that kid,
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And I was a kid that would
go into people's house with my family and
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say what can I organize? They're
like, sure, go for it.
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So just kept going and it's snowball
into a little tiny newsletter that turned to
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be my first book, Organized Now, which turned to the this is like
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my fifth book, and now,
gosh, I'm so impressed because yeah,
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crazy books are hard consuming, so
time consuming, but I did this has
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been like there's been like a three
or four year break from writing. So
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this is my first book in three
or four years because I did get burned
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out and all with all honesty,
because it just they have asked me to
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do one after the other. And
now I'm doing online searching, which is
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really fun and interesting and helps me
have a little more freedom. But I'm
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still working one of them with people
in their homes and that is just such
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great research for all the online programs
and the books, and it truly is
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something that I don't think I would
ever get sick of just making an impact
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in a person's lives. And you
and I have talked on my show just
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how we have a bigger why for
doing this work, and that's what drives
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me every single day. I no
longer feel like it's Groundhogs day. Yeah,
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And I love this because for so
many reasons, as you and I
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have talked about before, we are
our community of listeners and people that watch
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us on YouTube are a mix of
people who crave organizing strategies because they don't
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have them intuitively, people that are
like organizing junkies like us, that really
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get jazzed up about that and see
these as a challenge and yes, I
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can solve this almost like a puzzle. And then also entrepreneurs who might either
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be doing this or thinking about doing
this, or wondering how they can burn
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their own passion into a profession.
And so I love everything that you're saying
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because it touches on all the different
points. And again, we've spoken about
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the evolution of the organizing industry since
you and I started as our ogs of
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like just how it's evolved. And
I just love the fact that you're able
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to do online coaching. And I
know a lot of our other professional organizers
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up there thinking they have what they're
digital courses or virtual organizing, that we're
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able to serve people in so many
different modalities than exclusively just being in their
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home. Yes, that's it's so
funny. First of all, when you
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say OG, I cracked up because
we're old though, just like the originals,
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I just right like, we're gonna
we're gonna spin it in a positive
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way. But I think it's cool
that we're on either side of this because
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we've talked with me before. When
we started, this was not a thing,
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so this is to be a major
of it and major industry. But
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I feel like now being able to
help people even if I'm not in their
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home, it's pretty amazing. And
I just got to a point where I'm
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like, Okay, I want to
help even more people learn this lifestyle because
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it's so so important, and the
fastest, easiest way to do that is
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through the Internet. And so I'm
just I'm still lucky that I'm living in
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a time where I can do that, because it would be very expensive to
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fly me in to do all these
homes. From now, as you're willing
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to learn, I'll teach you everything
I know and you can do it yourself
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and that's amazing. Yeah, it
really is fascinating, and I love that.
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And I want to talk a little
bit about because you've been very vocal,
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which I love about looking at the
work that you do from a mission
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perspective. And obviously you and I
have talked offline, and I know that
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you have a very deep faith perspective. We have a lot of listeners of
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that kind of run the gamut,
but not that you need to have a
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specific faith perspective to follow your work
or do the things that you're doing.
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But I think it's a large part
of your brand, and I just love
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for you to just are a little
bit about that and how that's gotten you
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to your philosophy about living the life
that you feel like you were meant to
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live, because I think it's very
it's pivotal to what differentiates you for maybe
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different other approaches. As I first
of all, I firmly believe every single
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person is set here with their own
unique mission, and I think that it
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is Your personality is a part of
it. The skills you have, the
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things that come easy to you,
like for you and I would be organizing,
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but everybody has something like that.
But I also feel like society is
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constantly bombarding us with messages, and
those aren't fluttering up our minds and our
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eyes and our ears, and so
sometimes we lose what our true purpose is.
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We can't even see it, we
can't hear it. We're just so
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busy trying to survive every day,
and we're also so busy trying to take
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care of all the stuff that we
own, and maybe we don't even want
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to own that much stuff. Most
of my clients want to pare down.
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But there's huge marketing campaigns and huge
social media campaigns every day coming into your
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world saying you need this, you
need that. This will make you prettier,
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this will make you healthier, this
will make you skinnier, this will
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make you more successful. And they're
doing a really good job. That's why
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they get paid those big bucks to
do it. And we believe it.
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We believe that if we're waking up
feeling discontented, much like I was back
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in the day when I knew that
I wasn't in the right field and I
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wasn't living with purpose, I was
trying to fill that void with other things.
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I was trying to fill that void
with this stuff and it never worked.
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And I see this all the time, but I get to work in
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really amazing holes that if you pulled
up into the driveway, you'd think,
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this woman has it all. She
must be so happy and so content.
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Her home is gorgeous on the outside, the cars are in a driveway,
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it's papped with all the things.
And she's no more content because of it.
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She's actually more overwhelmed because of it. Because stuff does not bring you
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intention or it does not bring you
true contentment or joy or anything or peace,
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none of it. And God,
God, I was going to say,
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yeah, if you can't believe me, think about the lands time you
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went to Target to grab a couple
of things and he wanted to get in
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and out the door in ten minutes. The next thing you know, you're
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going through that first little area that's
all five dollars or less. And it's
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very seasonal, and it's very geared
toward what women are thinking and feeling in
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that time of year. And maybe
it's Talloween, maybe it's spring right now,
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there's all the pastel colors. There
might be some cute Eastern things or
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organizing contain or something that's grained.
Spring cleaning, and next thing. You
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know, you leave Target with a
cartful and you're feeling pretty happy, right,
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You're freaking happy and ready to go. But then joy doesn't last for
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years or sometimes not even pass getting
it out of the car and putting it
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in your house. Yeah, there's
a reason why people call it retail therapy,
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right, Like, you're trying to
fill this void with stuff and it
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is short lived at a shallow And
again, I'm not anti shopping. I'm
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not telling people don't go just shopping
in either are you. But again,
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it's trying to use stuff to fill
that void or to lift you up,
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or to think that is going to
solve something. And then I don't know
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about you, but then you see
the aftermath of that where you're like,
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great, this didn't solve my problem. Now I have stuff, Now I've
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spent money, Now I need I
have decision fatigue because I have to figure
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out how I'm gonna store this or
what I'm going to do with this,
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and it adds on to an additional
layer of issues. And again, I
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think our goal, and I don't
want to put words in your mouth,
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is really to have people find meaning
outside of the things. Yes, because
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every single thing you own takes up
some amount of space, time, energy,
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and money. But if you can
get back those are four really important
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resources in your life that you can
get back to use and spend that on
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something very like a purpose, right
getting up every day, having more time
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and energy to fill a purpose,
or having more space for the people that
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you love in your home, having
more time to spend with those people that
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you love, having more time for
yourself, doing things at X make you
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happy. Maybe you wish you had
more time to read a book or go
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for a run or walk through dog. But the stuff requires responsibility, it
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really does, and so we want
to figure it out a way of Basically,
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any to me, clutter is anything
that is preventing you. You're getting
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in the way of you living your
most fulfilling, promisful life. And so
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you need to start deciding what aligns
with the life I want to live and
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what doesn't. And if it doesn't, it's flutter and it needs to go.
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So what do you say to somebody
that's listening out there that says,
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I don't really know my purpose,
like right now, maybe I'm somebody that
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is rounding in the weeds with littles
at home and all I'm doing is like
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diaper feed, rinse, repeat,
or maybe I am somebody who is similar
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in a similar boat to us,
where now we're entering like the empty nesting
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stage and you're like, Okay,
my life has been defined by X,
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Y, and Z, and now
that season of life is coming to an
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end and a changing. I think
for a lot of people, specifically women,
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there is the existential I don't even
know what my purpose is, right,
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Like you have a clarity. I
feel like I have a clarity of
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how I can serve the world.
But for a lot of people that don't
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have that, where do they go
to begin to find? It's an awesome
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question and it's exactly why I out
the book because I walk people through the
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process. And I've seen with working
with woman after women where we deep clutter
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and we get things in order and
we streamline their home and we make their
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home easier to maintain. All of
a sudden that brain fogs, starts to
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list, that energy starts to increase, and now they're back when they were
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a young woman where they remember how
to imagine possibilities and daydream and like,
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what do I want? What do
I want this life to look like?
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Because your life can look any way
you want to look. You have to
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start driving the car and stop being
in the passenger seat or even the back
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seat. You have to decide where
you want to go and how you want
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to use this time, this precious
resource we all have been given. How
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are we using it? And it
seems sometimes overwhelming. If you're at ground
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zero and you have no idea what
your purpose is and you want it to
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get to your purpose, my advice
to you is to start journaling, start
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daydreaming, Start giving yourself ten minutes
in the morning to imagine what it could
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look like, and start to create
this vision, which is basically like taking
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a canvas like the painting behind me
and deciding I'm going to really get specific
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on what this picture of my life
is going to look like for this season.
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I don't think we need to figure
out our entire life, Laurie.
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I think we need to figure out
this season we're in. And like you've
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mentioned, I'm going to be an
empty nus or next year. I start
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to get really sad about that a
couple of months ago, and I thought
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I have two choices. I can
either be sad and when my baby the
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youngest leaves. I can really be
in the doldrums, or I can embrace
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this new season and start to get
excited. And that's when I rebranded because
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I asked myself, what do I
want practice what I preached? So I
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stopped and I said, I can
make this season look like anything. What
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do I want it to be?
I gave myself many days to think and
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journal and pray and debate, and
then I took action. And you know,
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but who knows. You're never going
to know how it turns out.
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But taking action gives you that feeling
that you are driving a car and you
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are on control. I love it. And so if somebody's out there and
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says, okay, I want to
start doing this whatever season. Obviously there's
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so many different approaches in schools of
thoughts, like practically, how where to
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start? Right? Where do you
start the decluttering plazas? Right? Because
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I think again, like you said, it's so much easier when you have
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a blank campus, right when you
declutter your closet and you go, let
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me imagine what I want to add
back in? Is so which better than
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or easier than trying to navigate through
all of the minutia. So what are
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your give us a few different tips
if you will that you might say,
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if somebody's listening to this, says, I want to start like I've been
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on this hamster wheel. I've been
going through Groundhog's Day. I'm not happy
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where I am. I want to
make a change. Yeah, First,
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get some sort of accountability. That's
just the bottom line. That's why there
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are coaches. That's why there are
programs. Because when I wanted to level
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up my business, what did I
do? I got a business coach that
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would help me level up my business
because there was things that I need to
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learn that I didn't know. And
I believe we're all experts on something,
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and I'm like the biggest fan,
and you want to learn something good the
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expert that's already done it, and
she'll teach you how to do it.
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It saves a lot of time and
energy, so that gives you accountability,
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and if you have accountability, you
will start doing it instead of just dreaming
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about it, wishing, wanting,
and hoping someday it happens. Number two
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is get very serious about planning out
your time because this is how things happen.
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This is when you look at someone's
life and you see this life over
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here, and you're like, man, they made a difference, they made
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an impact, they made people feel
good, they helped people. They did
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this and now and then you see
somebody else that didn't. It's how they
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use their time. And so it's
planning out your time, getting very specific,
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putting boundaries around your time. I
love this is one of my favorite
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things. At the beginning of the
year. I take the week and I
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use colored time blocks as what I
want my week to live life instead of
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letting life dictate what it looks like. And then I'd still in the information
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based on Okay, here's the time
block for working out. Even call it
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working out, I'd call it healthy
living. And it's green. And that
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can be reading my Bible. It
could be working out on the elliptothal,
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it could be taking my dog for
a while. It's all the things.
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It could be massage. But I'm
going to make sure that I put something
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in there, because that's how you
know you're living a balones' life. You're
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taking care of all the things.
Then I'll have family time, work time,
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all the stuff. And if you
ask me if I can do something
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doing one of those time blocks,
I'm no undred percent fine was saying the
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word, and oh if I don't
want to do it and it doesn't align
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with my priorities. So get very
clear on your priorities. And then when
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it comes to the actual organizing,
like the physical organizing, you need to
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shrink it down, like you need
to narrow in on the tiniest spots and
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do not move on until you complete
it from beginning to end. Because I
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think a lot of times people get
pumped up. They'll hear like an episode
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like this, or go to a
retreat or our conference. You're like,
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yes, I'm going to get home
and this weekend, I'm going to organize
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the whole house. It doesn't work
that way. I don't want to pop
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your bubble, but it literally does
not work that way. You need to
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think about this as a marathon and
training, so small, tiny, micro
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organizing. And maybe it's the kitchen
drawer, two kitchen drawers, wanting cooking
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dinner, and we've set a timer
for twenty minutes, and when the timer
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goes off, you're done. You
did something to move the needle. And
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then tomorrow and you can do two
covers and next one the kitchen is completely
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done. You can go to the
laundry. But you can't just you have
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that squirrel mentality where you're like doing
a little here, a little there.
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That doesn't work because that way,
when we just touch it a little bit,
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it never gets fully erased off our
to do list. Absolutely, And
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I mean if people are long time
listeners of our show, either're like,
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it's like listening to me, because
it's a very similar philosophy and approach about
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staying focused on the area, And
understandably for some people that's harder to do,
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Like it's your naturally be like and
do a little bit here, and
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I want to do a little bit
here, but then you're spending ten hours
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across ten different spots as opposed to
saying I'm going to focus in this one
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particular area and go deep and really
be able to check that off the list
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and start to have that progress.
I love everything that you said, and
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I'm a big time blocker as well
and taking ownership absolutely. And it's again
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and we're going to touch on this
because I think it's a really important part
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of the equation, which is about
finances. But I whenever I talk about
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time blocking and building in that margin
for your own healthy living, I love
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how you approach that where you're like, it could look a little bit different.
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It could be I'm taking a walk. It could be I'm going to
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the gym. It could be that
I'm just reading a book or reading the
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Vible or whatever it is that I'm
catching up with a friend, whatever it
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looks like to you to build that
time in, because just like when you
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talk about saving money, if you
wait till the reserves are left over,
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there's never anything left over. We're
just now ever is there's always a fire
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to be put out. There's always
something else that's going to hop up on
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your to do list. So if
you're not proctor in carving out and prioritizing
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those things that are important to you, they just won't happen. They're just
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not going to I don't mean to
be a semic. I just that's how
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I feel like. You have to
put them on there. Yeah, it's
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like the law. This is how
it works the same for everybody. And
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it also gives me. I don't
know if you feel this way, but
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when I allocate my time and I
say I'm going to be focusing in,
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for me, my mornings are like
the time where I will read, chill
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out, just to have a little
bit slower time. And then I will
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also make like personal phone calls if
we have to make a doctor appointment or
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take the car and to get service. Then I move into work mode.
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I have work mode, and then
after that it like shifts into a different
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area. And then I also do
a lot of volunteer work, and so
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I have certain pockets of my day
or of my week that are dedicated to
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that. So when something comes in, whether it's an email or a phone
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call or something, I know,
unless it's something that is urgently time sensitive,
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I know exactly to where and when
to respond to that, as opposed
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to getting sucked in and going you
know what. I know that I'll address
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this, but I'll address it at
four o'clock when that is my time to
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do that. And it gives me
permission to say, I don't have to
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respond to this right now because I
know when I will absolutely and it's less
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mental clutter because I well want to
do all the things right now because they're
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afraid they'll forget because they don't have
a system that's efficient. They don't have
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a management that you and I have
a time manage system, so we know
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when we're doing what we know.
When we're answering emails and bone calls,
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we're not afraid that if we don't
do it this second, we'll forget because
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we already have a time block.
Such a good point, because I think
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fear is a really big thing for
people, and it is if you have
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a solid system. And I'm not
saying that my system's right or your systems
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right, but I think if you
have a consistent system that you continually maintain
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and stick with it, that's the
key differentiator. Well, I don't care
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if you do it on your phone, if you do it in a paper
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planner, as long as it's something
that you are continually doing. I think
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that is really what makes the hugest
difference in the world, do you honestly,
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Lauren, By saying it that way, it makes me think of all
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the systems, like all the systems
for clothes, system for grocery. When
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they come in, you know how
to put your groceries away so you're not
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eating, letting things go to waste
or gift buying. Folidate time. The
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more organized you are, the more
systems you have for maintenance, and that
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makes life easier. It just does, because you know what you're doing okay,
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this is where I put my baking
ingredients. So if you just do
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it on autopilot, you're not going
in and shoving everything into your pantry when
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you get home from the grocery store. And then it comes time to bake
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a cake and you have three different
areas to look in you know where to
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look. I think it comes down
for me when you're just talking. It
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comes to that intentionality piece. It's
doing things with intention or as you say,
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doing it on purpose. And when
you have that level of intentionality in
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these specific areas or in any area
of your life, that's when things tend
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to happen. It would be more
productive and you have a more proactive role
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in it as opposed to being reactive, because again, so many of us
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are just living on autopilot because our
lives are either overscheduled or we just have
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too much on our plate or whatever
the reason is. And when you can
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start to take that proactive approach.
I always tell people we all have systems,
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either by design or by default.
They could be poor systems, right
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like your system might be a hot
mass, but we all have patterns that
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we follow. And if you're going
to have them, either way, I
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would rather see somebody take a proactive
approach to it and create the system that
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they want, as opposed to being
like, yeah, our system is we
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don't plan for dinner and then at
six o'clock we're all starving and we just
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grab whatever or order out all the
time because that's our plan. And then
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a faulting system like the bleeds into
another faulting system. So now you're eating
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out all the time, you're not
organizing and managing your money. And then
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also that bleeds to more mental clutter
because you feel guilt and shame and you
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feel like you just can't get ahead. So it just keeps on going the
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hamster wheel. Yeah, that's mentioned. Going out to dinner every night would
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rob you of a lot of time
being away from home, so it just
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keeps on going. Yeah, I'm
looking at my notes because one of the
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things that you talk about in the
book is about the purpose for money,
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and it's an area that I'm super
passionate about as well about people again taking
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control of their finances not having financial
clutter. I've expanded on my three core
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types of clutter that I talk about, physical, emotional, calendar. I
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still think those are the three main
buckets. But then you have digital clutter,
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financial clutter, the mental clutter,
which is all that mental load of
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things that we're that we are struggling
with caring every day. And I'm just
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wondering if you could talk a little
bit about how you approach the financial clutter
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and disorganization and the impacts for our
listeners. Well, you have to face
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your clutter. And I find the
financial clutter, well don't want to face
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it. They don't really dig into
it and look at it with and get
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an honest snapshot of what it is, because it's scary and it's fearful and
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you feel laugh usually, and so
what do you do? You just avoid
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it, and then it grows.
That depth grows, and I am,
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and I talk about in the book. I am. It's all about ten
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P principles, and one of the
P principles is practicing stewardship. So I
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believe it's not I think, why
should you be asking for more money if
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you're not taking proper care and responsibility
of the money you currently have, And
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if you can't keep the money you
have now organized and have an efficient system
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for that, you're not going to
be able to handle more money. You
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just not And so you have to
be really careful of being grateful for the
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little or the lot whatever you have. Now you have to I don't care
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if you see a quarter on a
sidewalk, don't just kick it away.
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It's money, and that energy and
in the gratitude of it will be a
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life change for you. So you
need to get a system. I can't
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believe how many people I work with
Laurie that don't have a budget, like
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a body. Don't need to get
me started on that. You can have
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a whole episode. We should have
a whole episode out about organizing money because
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we do like a weaponar. Can
we do a webinar? We didn't really
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should And because you're passionate about it, and I'm passionate about it, it's
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like I've learned. I remember,
and here's the true I remember when I
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first left my carpet job instead of
my organizing business. And then I was
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doing really well in Charlotte, and
then we moved back to where we are
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from and everybody like back down,
They're like, what's the professional organized?
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It's gonna take a hot minute to
grow this. So I start. I
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went back to corporate America, and
when I had my second child, I
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decided I didn't have anybody I felt
comfortable leading with him, so I quit
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my job. At a time,
I was the breadwinner. We were new
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back to the state, and I
told my husband, nobody's watching this baby,
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I'm putting my job, but Facebook
like and shop. So I remember
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putting my groceries on my credit card
a couple of times, like I was
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so ashamed and I was so upset, but I just stuck with it because
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to me, it was more important
to be with my kids. And that's
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when my organizing business really took off
because it had to, right. I
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had to focus on it. So
I understand not wanting to look at your
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bank statements or your credit card statements. I can get it, But you
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can take your power back if you
get your money organized and having some sort
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of system, just like you would
with a physical item and putting it into
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containers. Your money needs to be
allocated to categories in your budget which think
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of them as a container, right, So this amount of money goes and
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this container every month, this goes, and this. If you've ever used
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the envelope system, my husband and
I practiced, Dave Ramsey's financial piece for
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years. I still do cash an
envelope when I can, and I just
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love it. But it's like it
tells, it basically tells me, just
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like with the time blocks, it
says, I decide what goes in this
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time blood, I decide what goes
in this cash envelope. I decide where
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my money goes. And that makes
me feel calm and in control rather than
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the days where I was like,
what the hell is that want to go
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on? Or where all and running
to go? I didn't know. Now
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I know, and it's hard.
It's easy, but it's hard to practice.
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And I'm like, again, come
from the same exact perspective as you,
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and I know it's hard to look
in the mirror. If you've ever
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kept a food diary, people,
if you've ever kept a food diet,
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and you're like, I'm see and
then you write it down and you're like,
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yeah, I graze those M and
m's, I finished the chicken nuggets,
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I fill in the blank, all
done some level of that. And
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when you're talking about your finances and
you're like, I fend that much money.
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I just stopped at Starbucks and I
spent five dollars and thirty five cents,
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and then I went through the drive
through and I just got this and
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I whatever it is, and I'm
not here to shame anybody, but it's
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that again, it's that accountability and
that intentionality. And once you can face
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that in the mirror, and you
could fill in the blank for shopping,
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you could fill in the blank for
whether it's clothes shopping, or going to
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home goods and going to target off
the dollar or aisle. All of these
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things they add up to different buckets
of clutter. And that's what you talk
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about, and that's what I talk
about, and there it to me.
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I find it's more like death by
thousand cuts. It's not the one thing
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that broke the bank. It's not
the one thing that set your pant,
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your closet into overload, or that
one thing that set your calendar into a
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tizzy. It's all of these habbits
or poor patterns of behavior that have led
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you to this place of overwell,
yeah, and overwhelms the number one word.
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I hear. You hear the same
things. But the cool thing is,
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even if you don't know how to
do it today, you can't learn
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and just the fact of deciding to
make a change. It's starting to get
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your life organized does start to fire
you up. You will see you could
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physically see the change, right,
And it's like that teaches you that if
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I could get this organized, if
I could get rid of this credit card
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bill, if I could do these
things, then you can do it all.
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You just have to stay consistent and
stay motivated. But when it comes
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to the money getting organized, that
is a huge form of flutter, and
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we note flutter weighs us down.
And it's just like dragging a suitcase around
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packed with bricks, your whole entire
life to meet. That's visually what I
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see flattery as. And so you
can decide I'm going to get rid of
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this brick. I'm gonna get rid
of that brick, and you can make
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that journey lighter. But you have
to see the big why in and you
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have to realize that you're preventing your
delaying the gratification by not starting. I'm
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all so the different types of clutter
are all intertwined. Right. The less
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you shop mindlessly, think again,
if you need to go shopping. But
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like, the more that you can
be intentional about your shopping, the more
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fiscally responsible you're gonna beat. The
more money you're gonna have on your bank
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account, the less debt you're gonna
be it. So they're all related.
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And then again, the more that
you are aware of your finances, the
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less you're going to just spend because
or go shopping just without because you know
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that you are trying to reach a
goal. So whether the financial is the
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driver, whether it's my closets filled
with clutter and that's the driver, they
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all inner relate. And so once
you start building momentum in one area,
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I feel like it's so much easier
to gain momentum in the other areas.
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Oh my gosh. Absolutely, and
int you can make it a fun game,
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like, you can make them really
fun. I know people are probably
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like, wait, this isn't gonna
be fun, but think about it.
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It's I've always had a spreadsheet going
of a debt, the old debt snowball.
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I've always watched you buy something and
you want to get it paid off.
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You can figure out ways to pay
it off quicker by selling clutter.
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We all have these things at our
house. We don't meet that you can.
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I don't care if it's ten dollars
here and ten dollars there them can
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really put a debt in your financial
to the whole. You can cut away
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a big snowball of debt with getting
rid of plutter. So you're benefiting in
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two different ways, and you can
think about it with weight. Weight gain
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is a big form of clutter.
I was actually teaching up presentation last night
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to a group of women that were
in a weight loss program, and I
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was explaining how excess weight is a
form of clutter. It's getting between you
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and your best life and you have
to shed it right, just like we
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have to shed all these other forms
of flutters. But it's a step by
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step process and you have to stick
with it until you see results. Once
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you see results, I feel like
then you start to get more excited.
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It's like I say that all the
time. I always say, I wish
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if I knew, if I was
going to start this whatever weight loss program,
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if I could have a crystal ball
to say, if you stick with
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this in ten weeks, here's the
progress that you're going to have. I
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wish me not a crystal ball to
show my clients, because again, so
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many people are out there listening that
are like I've tried, and I've been
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unsuccessful. I've tried and I've quit. I've tried and something unexpected has come
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up in my life to be a
roadblock of hurdle, make it difficult,
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and like I get it, and
you get that, and I think what
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the message is, it's the just
get getting back up, trying to just
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pick an area, don't try to
do it all. Pick an area and
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just start with those small, functionable
things that are going to help you build
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that momentum. Absolutely, and one
other things I really encourage people to do.
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If you're just like, as you
know what happens, they'll want to
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organize something. Let's say like the
kitchen cabinets. Just let's say that there's
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so many things in there. So
for you and I, our brain sees
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the project done, like we see
the potential and we know, okay,
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we see the puzzle. The puzzle
over here is done, so now I
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know where to put what pieces right. But people that are doing us for
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a living and they're not doing it
every day and they don't have this munch
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expertise. They just see a bunch
of puzzled pieces and they're just like,
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I don't know how to put these
together. I don't know what quits work,
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so you know what, have less
puzzled pieces? Okay, kind try
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it. Simply get it a big
bin, throwing everything that you don't use
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every single week and put it in
there, and get the cupboard how you
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ideally want them to look where they're
just simple. It's easy to put the
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dishes away out the dishwasher. It
looks nice, it makes you'll know when
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you get there because you'll have this
feeling of aha, that looks good,
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and then live without the stuff in
the bin for a couple of weeks.
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It can be that simple. And
can I add to that Also, if
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you're somebody that really like struggles with
that vision, right, you're like,
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I just my brain doesn't work like
that, right, I'm just that's not
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how my brain works. It's okay, get somebody, whether it's a professional
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organizer and whether it's asking a friend
who's got a different perspective. Like,
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there's so many ways that you can
like, I am not an overly like
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artistic person or I'm not musical,
but there are things that I'm like,
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I know that I might want something
that I don't have that intuitively within myself,
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that's just not how my brain is
wired. And so if I'm trying
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to get something that's in that area, I will ask for help, whether
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a professional or just somebody in my
network of people who do have that skill
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that can help me, because we
are all unique and we all have certain
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gifts, and some of us just
not that this is an learned skill,
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because I do believe that organizing is
a large scale. It just comes easier
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to some people than others. Und
percent I agree. I think I was
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laughing because you're like, I'm not
necessarily artsy or fine. I'm like me
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either. My brain sees order.
So everybody hands their guests and we need
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to. And there's somebody in your
life that loves this like we do.
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Like somebody love there's look around,
ask around because you don't have to do
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it by yourself. And then maybe
there's something. Maybe you love gardening and
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you can help your girlfriend garden house. That's such a good one because I
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had for years I had the black
thumb. I was like, to bring
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your living plant here. I can
keep a kid alive, but a plant
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that's a whole other. That's a
whole other ballgate. How our listeners,
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obviously, we could talk about this
all day long. I love the stuff
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that you do, because there's so
many parallels in just our approach, the
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way that we teach, and really
you're about lifting people up and I just
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love that, really trying to help
people. Even if you don't love clutter,
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what you or you don't love organizing, what we all know is clutter
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holes from living our best lives.
And that's I think what you want to
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convey to your people is don't let
clutter stand in the way of living the
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life that you were meant to be
exactly. And nobody's going to remember you
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for how many shoes you own.
No, that doesn't count. Stuff doesn't
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know. We've never talked about stuff
that people own. When they pass on,
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they talk about how you made them
feel, the times we spent together,
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the memories that were created, how
they help other people. It's never
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about the stuff, because I really
think it's so profound to remind ourselves that
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we come in empty handed and we
leave empty handed. So why are we
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breaking our backs for all this stuff? And I say that living in a
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home that has things. I love
you and I are not minimalists. I
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think sometimes people think, oh,
you must be a minimalist. You don't
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love stuff. No, I'm very
particular about what stuff I can have around
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me, and when it doesn't serve
me anymore, I'm very willing to have
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an open hand and let it go. And one thing I want to say,
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Laurie is that in the book Another
Pas privilege Giving, because I truly
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believe with the amount of stuff and
you can attuch to that that we see
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in people's closets and basements and addicts, it's not being touched or used,
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it's not loved or use. There's
no reason why anybody in this country should
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be going without anything else. It's
just we have to get in the closet
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and pass it on. And so
I feel like, if you need an
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extra dose of motivation, look around
your local community and tie your heart to
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some nonprofit that needs the stuff that
you're not using. And I'm definitely not
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somebody. I'm all about the little
guys like the little small lund profits,
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the domestic violence programs, the Habitans
or Hummunity, Goodwill, Salvation Army get
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everything. They don't need more help. It's really these little mom and pops
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that are even you're in local school
nurse, they need both kids kids to
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have BAC says they need more clothes, or the foster families. I mean,
590
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I was gonna say, I believe
if you look in your local neighborhoods
591
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you know your local just google,
even if you don't know them, there
592
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:30.360
are there's somebody that's creating backpacks for
kids that in foster care that getting put
593
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:37.119
or you said SPCA taking old linens
or a blankets and towels for animals.
594
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:42.760
Nobody knows what an or. I
also own a consignment event and so I
595
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:46.960
see these charity do the consignment of
that. Yeah, and it's so cool
596
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:54.280
because they need everything from home goods
to maybe equipment, to close shoes Hampman
597
00:42:54.400 --> 00:43:00.440
and to everything. We fill up
chuckloads. And it's because these fans that
598
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:05.920
they first sold their stuff to get
some money and pay off their bills and
599
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:07.599
things like that or afford what they
need to the next season, and then
600
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after that they let it go to
charity. And I believe that the more
601
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:15.079
we have just these open hands,
the more will come to you also.
602
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.760
But you can't let go of things
with a clenched fist and fear of living
603
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.320
like maybe this could have it?
What if I need it? What if
604
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.519
this? What if that? You
can't be like that. You just have
605
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:29.880
to be like blessing, goodbye,
and if I need it again, I'll
606
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.519
find it. And that's and the
other thing I say on top of that
607
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.159
is, the money's already been spent, right, you're the money's already been
608
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.800
spent, whether it's you know what, I don't wear those jeans or those
609
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:46.719
shoes anymore, or you know what, I bought this whatever thing for the
610
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.519
kitchen and I thought I would use
it and I really don't. And it's
611
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:52.679
just taking up space, film,
the play. We all have these things,
612
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:59.719
and the money's book. It's gone. Right, So now are you
613
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:04.559
going to keep this as a reminder? Are you continue to be rate yourself
614
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:09.119
for having this thing that is not
serving you and have a take up space
615
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:14.320
or can you just again let it
go, pay forward, let it serve
616
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.639
somebody else. And I think again, there's so many reasons. We talk
617
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:20.719
about guilt, We talk about the
shame, we talk about all of the
618
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.920
different reasons that hold us, bounce
from us, that fear, what if
619
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:29.119
I needed again, all these things
that hold us back from letting things go.
620
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.599
And when you really can just make
peace about that, it just gives
621
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:38.000
you a freedom and a levity to
just make decisions and have that almost permission,
622
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:44.000
like feeling like I have permission to
let this go absolutely and let me
623
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:50.360
ask you a questions because I'm curious
and I know that I have not experienced
624
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:53.719
this. I'm wondering, how many
times have you seen somebody that owns like
625
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:59.320
a collection of something where they keep
it because it's worth money or it's going
626
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:04.679
to be worse something someday. How
many times have you seen that actually happened,
627
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.119
but where then it actually turns into
something with money, turns into money.
628
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:12.719
Oh, I don't think I've ever
had anybody. Now I will say
629
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.159
I don't necessarily I don't deal with
resale, so in my experience, like,
630
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.280
I am not an expert in things. So if you did have a
631
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:27.239
collection of some like particular china that
was and I'm not talking about no offense
632
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.519
people, I'm not talking about your
Lenox china that you got when you But
633
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:35.360
I'm saying, like something that's a
really high end or some antique or whatever
634
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.239
that really is. I would refer
a client that really had something that was
635
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:45.000
truly valuable to somebody that was like
an antique specialist or resaler in that particular
636
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.280
area because I don't know, like
I'm a commoner, but I will say,
637
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.679
more often than not, most people
think their stuff is worth more than
638
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:57.760
it is. Again that collection of
Beanie Babies, the collection of barbies,
639
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:00.679
the collection And again I don't want
to never be responsible to say, yeah,
640
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.199
I don't think you need to hold
onto the box for the American Girl
641
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:07.519
doll. But if you really,
what is your space worth to you?
642
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:09.159
And that's what I always try to
tell people. Also, what is your
643
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:15.239
space worth? And what's your time
to put for top dollar for these items?
644
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.159
It's varied, time consuming, yes, but also seeing many collections when
645
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.920
we've gotten to a point where the
house is being sold or the person's passed
646
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:28.480
on, or there's in the state
sale, and these collections where they board
647
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:35.800
funds and tons of money into it
are not worth much, especially nowadays because
648
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.159
we live in a more disposable society. We talk about that all the time.
649
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:43.519
Yeah, so be careful if you're
thinking I'm going to hang on to
650
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.159
all these things because they're worth money, they're not worth The money does not
651
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:52.119
go onto your bank account if you
don't find someone too that will trade you
652
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:58.199
the item for money. Yeah,
So it being worth money is fictitious in
653
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.760
your mind unless you actually find something
that will aid you those dollars. And
654
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:06.000
so if that, if you're not
willing to do all the work and put
655
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.480
the effort in, I end a
client. One time we had an entire
656
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:17.639
rule designated to Porson dolls. There
was thousands that creepy that's at it tends
657
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.079
of receipts. We couldn't even give
them away. Yeah, we couldn't.
658
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:28.280
We couldn't. I found a Porson
down museum and they took five. Wow,
659
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.280
And it was like this full entire
rule was dedicated to it. And
660
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.840
I can't even imagine the money.
All I can say is I hope it
661
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:40.440
brought her a lot of joy.
Yeah, tell our listeners before we take
662
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:45.360
our last break, tell our listeners
if they want to learn either about your
663
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online coaching, buy the ball,
listen to your show. Just like where
664
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is the best place for them to
go to? Yeah, book, It's
665
00:47:52.400 --> 00:48:00.079
called makeroom and on every normal ways
you can buy books. And then I
666
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:04.880
have my website Jennifer ford Berry dot
com, all my Instagram, Facebook,
667
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.639
everything is Jennifer ford Berry ford like
the chock berry, like the fruit.
668
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:13.800
So it's v E R Y.
And then now there's courses programs. I
669
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:16.519
work one on one with people.
I do a group coaching program called the
670
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:22.000
Created Order Neighborhood where we meet every
week, and I have like self paced
671
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:28.440
courses so they can do all that
and we are I'll be having I'm one
672
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.880
of the co founders of a retreat
coming up this fall, caught the Focus
673
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Retreat, So we go to the
Focused Retreat dot com registration is going to
674
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open up to the public on April
first. So now I saw it.
675
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It's at so beautiful. Was it
like a farm I looked at I was
676
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like, oh my god, villained
inherentce word Kentucky and it's so serene.
677
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.760
And so if you're just feeling like
overwhelmed, like you need to get away
678
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and spend some time focusing and trying
to figure out what your purpose is.
679
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.320
Right, Yeah, and this is
the awesome well of linked to all things
680
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:06.480
Jennifer Forberry in our show notes our
podcast page. So don't worry about writing
681
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:09.480
it all down. We fetch a
cupboard, We're going to take quick break,
682
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:13.719
come back, put in our hot
seat for wrap up questions, So
683
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sit tight. How many of you
have ever thought I have absolutely nothing to
684
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:21.920
wear, even though you're staring at
a rack filled with clothes. If that's
685
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you, you are absolutely not alone. I dreaded shopping. I dreaded the
686
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thought of shopping until I met my
friend Janie Stiff McWhinney, who's the founder
687
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of Your Color Guru. Your Color
Guru looks at your personalized style, hair
688
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color, eye color complexion and helps
match what color schemes look best for you.
689
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So instead of sitting there buying things
that you think are going to look
690
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good or that you hope look good, get actually allows you to shop freely
691
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within the guise of saying these are
the colors that make you look your best,
692
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which, quite frankly, who doesn't
want to look their best? So
693
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she put together a special coupon code
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can tell you that I've been getting
tons of thank you notes from people saying
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this has completely revolutionized how they shop
and allowed them to make smarter choices when
696
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they are going to whether it's online
shopping or in person shopping. So I
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encourage you to check this out.
Visit her website, Your Color Guru,
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consultation. I am telling you it
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game changer for me, and it
is a game changer for all of the
702
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people who I know have been working
with her for the past two years.
703
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So definitely check it out and when
you talk to her, make sure to
704
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tell her that I say you all
right, Jennifer. So of course,
705
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.960
it's always a pleasure of having you
on our show. Your enthusiasm and knowledge
706
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:08.280
and wisdom is just infectious, and
I love sharing all the things that you're
707
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:14.280
doing with our people. On that
note, we know that you've inspired a
708
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.079
lot of people in this particular,
Like where you are in your life,
709
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:22.719
is there a book that you've read
or either that you come back to or
710
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:28.199
something that you're currently reading that's really
been transformational, or something that you just
711
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.480
want to share with our listeners for
them to go and say, hey,
712
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:36.679
I think this has really been a
game changer for me. So I have
713
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:43.159
gotten like even more into mindset than
I've ever been in my life because I'm
714
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.440
just at that point in my life
where I have big goals and like we
715
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:50.920
mentioned, my kids are going off
and I like things that I might have
716
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.199
more time for than I didn't used
to have time for us. But there's
717
00:51:53.199 --> 00:52:00.039
this little book buying Nicole Crank called
Goal Getters, and basically this is the
718
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.639
gist of it. And I have
been doing this for probably three years.
719
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:12.079
I think it's basically taught me to
every morning write down the five goals that
720
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:17.239
I'm working towards currently in my life
and writing them down as if they're already
721
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:22.079
happening. So instead of yeah,
so instead of saying I want to have
722
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:28.599
a to be more fit in tongue, you write it out like I am
723
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:32.039
living a fit and healthy lifestyle.
Your brain doesn't know the difference, right,
724
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:35.840
So the more you write it and
the more you're reading it your brains,
725
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.119
I'm living a fit and healthy lifestyle. And what happens is you start
726
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:45.000
to embody the person that you're becoming, right because you tell yourself that every
727
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:50.039
morning, So you don't want to
not act like that person because it's not
728
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.719
someday I'm going to be a fit
and healthy person, No, I am
729
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.840
right now today. And a fit
and healthy person takes her butt to the
730
00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:00.480
gym and a fit and healthy person
doesn't eat dream every single light, only
731
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:04.679
two nights a week. That's like
my Marrin thing in the world. I
732
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:07.199
love this because you can apply it
for people that are struggling with clone.
733
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.320
You could say, I live in
organized light, and what are the things
734
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:14.039
that somebody who lives in organized life
does. They don't buy things mindlessly,
735
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:15.719
they don't they let go of things, and they don't need them anymore.
736
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.119
So I love this because you can
apply it. Yeah. I just actually
737
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:22.920
Laurie did an episode I think it
was last week the week before how to
738
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:29.760
embody an organized persons. And you
can do this with anything. If you're
739
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.840
trying to level up with money and
you decide, okay, I want to
740
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:37.519
get to this level of income.
What does that girl look like, how
741
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.400
does she behave, what does she
talk like, how does she dress,
742
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:43.800
how does she behave, how does
she treat others, how does she what
743
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:46.440
does her home look like? How
was she a steward? Things like that.
744
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:52.800
So it just is so empowering.
And what's really cool is when it
745
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:57.320
really happens because you've wrote it out
for so long and all of a sudden,
746
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.079
oh, this is my reality now, and so I'll go, I
747
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.280
can highlight and then I'll replace it. Always do five, I'll replace it
748
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.519
with a new one. And it's
just you're always evolved. Oh, I
749
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:09.679
love it. I love it.
I think that's I think that's super.
750
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.639
I think it's a It's again another
way to help keep you accountable, help
751
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:22.639
keep you motivated, help really just
having that tangible accountability, like by writing
752
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.960
it down, which I love.
All right. Yeah, last two questions,
753
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:30.280
last two questions in this particular season
of your life. And I know
754
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:31.880
this is gonna be tough, but
I'd like to ask this question for organizers
755
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:37.559
because again we're not picture perfect.
So there are areas where we struggle right
756
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:39.119
now in this season of your life. Where do you feel the most organized?
757
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.639
But also where do you feel like
a little bit of a hot mess?
758
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:45.480
All right, So first of all, hot masks. Yeah, we'll
759
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:52.920
freely emit right now. Is photos? Oh, because I'm planning for a
760
00:54:52.320 --> 00:55:00.480
graduation priority this summer and I feel
like I take way too many photos and
761
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:04.280
I was more organized when I printed
them out back in the day they were
762
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.599
all in photo albums. And now
just released a whole episode on digital clutter
763
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:14.920
today drops people because it's true.
It's invisible clutter like it's just it's on
764
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.119
your phone and before you know it, you've got ten thousand pictures. And
765
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:21.519
I'm so sick of every device telling
me like, oh, you're getting close
766
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.039
to the limit, and I'm like, I don't have time, so I
767
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:27.840
don't want to get rid of my
photos right now, but I know I'll
768
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.079
be handling it because I need to
do the slideshow and all the things for
769
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:36.559
this grand party. But I feel
like there needs to be a better something.
770
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:38.239
We have to We gotta put our
heads together, Laurie and figure out
771
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:45.480
like a new simple program or device
for photos, because we're all drowning in
772
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.440
these digitals. One of the things
that I want, and somebody's gonna just
773
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:51.519
take this and run with it,
and I have no here, godspeed,
774
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.840
but I you know how your devices
will identify if you've got like a duplicate
775
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:00.639
contact and be like you want to
merge the colm act. I want them
776
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:06.960
to take you have six copies of
the same picture, and I wanted to
777
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:12.639
just AI recognize which one is the
best one of all, where people are
778
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:16.559
like, this one's not looking,
this one's what's that this is the only
779
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:22.199
product I found that will actually do
that. So it's already been to set
780
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.559
develop it. You guys are gonna
all love me when it's freaking company.
781
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:30.320
Should love me right now. But
yeah, really that the photos that they
782
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.559
send you this for your computer,
Okay, send you this, look at
783
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:38.960
they're all different, they'll fit into
all different like yeah, and it basically
784
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:45.280
takes it and it like, yeah, there's all your photos. Yeah,
785
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:50.039
and Ben, it will be running
and it will tell you which ones are
786
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.079
dufal kids and do you want to
erase them? So even with this little
787
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:59.280
guy, do you use Yes?
I do, But I still that it
788
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.880
will get it will gather them and
it will get rid of duplepits. But
789
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:06.800
I still need to make sure I
put them in the right folders because if
790
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:10.119
you think about a photo album,
yeah it's okay, this is our twenty
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twenty two, like it's if you
stuck to do that digitally, you have
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to know how to spind the photos. I do that every year. It's
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like a project or do it at
that every year? Aren't you the best
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organizer? I what? I am? Never sat here and another years online.
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I'll do that someday. But yeah, this is why I'm ex photos,
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I don't feel Oh god, who
and I do for a living?
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Yeah? Exactly? All right,
but let's let's end on a high note
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because we know that you are.
You have it together in ninety nine percent
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of your life. So of the
amazing areas that you aren't organized, where
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do you feel like you're really thriving. I'm still like I'm really thriving with
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my time management because I get stuff
done, Like I don't. I accept
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my mind to something and I do
it. I water it down into the
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smaller steps, and I figure out
a plan, and I, like I
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said, with the system I use
for my time. That was a snap,
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a little snippet of how I do
my time. End make sure,
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but I feel like I am in
control of my time. And if you're
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in control of your time, then
you can do anything. You can do
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any organizing project, you can build, any business, you can write any
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book, you can create the family
you want. Really, twenty four hours,
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we're all gifted to us equally.
It's what we do with that that
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matters. I love it. That's
a perfect place to end, Jennifer,
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Thank you so much for coming back
on our show. Thanks for all that
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you do for people out there helping
them find their purpose get rid of the
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unnecessary in their lives, and I
appreciate you so thanks so much, And
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if this is your first time tuning
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