speaker-0: Welcome to the Conscious Builders Podcast, a new podcast that we're launching. Wait till you hear the story behind this one. So the purpose of this podcast is to document our individual journeys of building spiritually aligned brands and conscious communities, as well as helping others that are doing the same. Now let's get into it with Intuitive Tan.
speaker-1: Optimystic Marc.
speaker-0: So, Tanis, how did we meet? We always keep coming back to that story because it is quite unique.
speaker-1: It is quite unique and I love that. And the thing is, lived in IleDesChenes Manitoba for many years and you've lived in the same town. ⁓ I think social media literally first brought us together. I think there was like ⁓ Healers and Seekers event coming up that would just pass not too long ago in our town of IleDesChenes. ⁓ so that's where we actually met in a sense of where we connected and we didn't realize that we had a lot of common things. I have another podcast called Spiritual Sparkle. You have other podcasts, correct?
speaker-0: Several other in the podcast. So what I saw it on Facebook page that the event was happening here with called healers and seekers and I wanted to find out, you know, are they still taking exhibitors because I wanted to promote my Podcasts that we have and I reached out and I think that's where you responded and then we kind of Corresponded ⁓ very quickly. But absolutely we knew okay something us here together and From my backyard to your backyard, I can throw a football and you'd be able to catch it. We're going to have to try that this summer
speaker-1: I I agree. And it's funny because I've always had the opportunity in the past of these all these years, walking my dog in the backyard and I've always seen your house. I even waved at you sometimes, not even knowing I would have known who exactly. And so I love that about our town being friendly and just being excited to meet new people. But the thing is, literally, we are definitely a soul family. I call us like a soul family where We so many things that we have in that, the world of being common, ⁓ Intuitive, conscious unity, creation, co-creating, manifestation, all these things. And I know that's what caught my attention when I first saw you. was like, wait a minute, there's something very amazing about this soul. And I was so excited to get more in depth of knowing exactly who is Optimistic Marc.
speaker-0: And let's talk about divine timing because when we first connected, we knew, okay, something is here. What is it? Why? We're not sure. Let's get together. Our first attempt didn't work. Let's get together again. Second attempt didn't work. And I felt like I'm just gonna let the universe give me the clues as to when the right time We did not ⁓ to meet soon, soon, soon. And finally, One day, we just said, okay, I'm available, I'm free, you wanna meet up, and then we went for coffee. And then that's where we really solidified things.
speaker-1: And honestly, that day I did really feel like a soul family connection where it's like our souls intertwined together and it was like trusting the conversation and just like bringing in all this beautiful authenticness. And I think that's what you have to bring to the table is you're a creator, you're a builder, you've got like marketing background. And I know we met many years ago on my street. And I can't remember how many years ago that was, but I do remember again waving at you. It was like always waving at you from afar.
speaker-0: Interesting. Yeah. Right. So after that coffee, we probably met for an hour and a half there. it was quite a lengthy conversation. We both knew that something is going to happen, but we didn't know what it was, but we were okay with it. then you shared with me all the projects that you're working on. I shared with you all the projects that I'm working on. ⁓ we came up with the bright idea of, why don't we document this through a podcast? so that people that are trying to build conscious communities or spiritually infused brands can hear the story and we can bring in guests to help them either get exposure or help them walk through.
speaker-1: Absolutely, and I think the thing is having speaking through voice authentically the last two to three years for myself has brought more of a leadership, an empowerment ⁓ helping those in need. And ⁓ gift is that, we're becoming the highest version of ourselves. And I think that Intuitive Tan just fits my name so perfectly in that order is because it's like, The old version of me is like, it's melting away and this version of me now is like, let's do this. Let's stand on the stage and like share our knowledge, share what we have and be real. And I think that's the gift that I have today is when you take away those old patterns of, you know, self worth and not feeling enough. And I still have troubles, because that's just. embedded but at the same time lifting that veil bringing more of that highest authority that's the gift that I think is going to bring to the table.
speaker-0: and you're talking about service to others. And I often talk about, you, me, we are all souls that have made a decision to come and play this game called a human, being human. And if our higher selves is more intelligent than our lower selves, then you should try to connect with a higher source of energy that animates this. mechanism or machine this biological machine that we have here. I love it. And that's for other episodes we could give it to the meat potatoes of all some of the theories that I just love digging really deep on who are we, what are we, why are we here, and what is our sole purpose, our soul mission.
speaker-1: Absolutely, and that's why I love your name Optimystic Marc because you're bringing all these flavors into one piece of the pie But you're you're tapping into it So it's like little episode series and then we can take it on to a whole different type of Energy and I think that's the idealist of that is like we're creating co-creating and manifestation ⁓ of much ⁓ of and you know what We don't have to second guess ourselves on this and being more Intuitive and raw. I think that's the gift that we're going to be bringing and being present with each other.
speaker-0: Go with the flow. Yes. Let's go. I love it. talk about going with the flow. let's start sharing on some of the projects that you're working on. But one of the skills that you have is tarot card reading. ⁓ we had talked about, let's pull a card or two and see ⁓ it tells us ⁓ use that as a guidepost for ⁓ conversation here today. ⁓
speaker-1: The card deck that jumped out at me this morning as I was arriving, it's called the Divine Masters by Kyle Gray. are becoming more in tune with leadership ⁓ and expression. so I feel that today I did a shuffle and the first card that jumped out was Mother Mary. Can you see? Yes. Perfect. So Mother Mary is all about miracles and bringing in those encounters. divine experiences, but do not be afraid of being powerful. And that's literally what I just said, no joke, where I'm tapping into oneself of myself and allowing the divine feminine of me to come through with authority. So I think this card is focused on myself, but I think it's also focused on the divine feminine for those viewers out there that are really tapping into that source connection of a female and feminine side. just saying that the other card that was pulled I think is catered to more for you Marc. And the reason I say that it's green terra, healing light, wellness unfolding, know the healing is a journey. So I feel that you're tapping into your own journey and bringing in forth of what it is of heart centered and being so grounded in that place of connection to heart. And I think that's how our souls met. is the colors blue is all about communication and the color green is about the heart. So Intuitive Tan today in this moment is sharing that it's all about the divine feminine. So bringing out more of your feminine Marc then that way you can bring in the flavors of beauty and not being afraid of that connection and you're doing that soul healing. So I think together we're gonna bring in that flavor of new new and just different things that serve purpose. Does that make sense?
speaker-0: It totally resonates with me and it aligns with, know, we are all souls on a journey. We are all here to heal and healing not in the sense that most people think it means, but healing in understanding the entire spectrum of this human experience, both the dark side and the light side and integrating both of those and accepting and learning to love the things we don't love. on the other card the Mary one I had the thought of ascended masters So there are many souls that came to this earth in the past obviously Mother Mary was one of them. So she embodied the divine feminine in an ascended master persona I love it and my belief is that on the on the planet here today in 2026 there are countless ascended masters walking among us that they might not, the human aspect of themselves might not even be aware that they are ascended master souls, but they came here on a mission. And I believe the bigger picture is to help heal the entire planet because it's gone through so much. And we talked about the end of the Yuga cycle that was focused on the physical aspect of being human and service to self aspect of being human. And now we're entering the next Yuga cycle, which is focused on the spiritual or the non-physical aspect of being human and service to others, service to all sentient beings.
speaker-1: I love that. so just to kind of give you a little bit of background for myself, as an Intuitive, I have the opportunity now, when I do healing sessions, I've done energy work for over 30 years, I'm a Reiki master, but I hid for 30 years because I think I was too soon for that because nobody really understood what it was. They didn't know what energy work was or Reiki. And so I did really try to get myself out there back then. And people do know me, but it was more one on one and I called, it was more like I did a Reiki shot or I did hand massages. And that, was kind of my gift because I have my license in aesthetics. So I took that in 1996. And you know, I believe that I have all these different flavors today that have elevated me to where I am. And that's why I'm feeling so confident in what I do. And I'm so proud of that. And just to kind of know where my awakening started was three years ago with my father of his passing. So I think that personally changed who I was then and who I am now. So he's actually shared so many different signs and I'm so grateful and you know the stories can revel as we continue on. But I just wanted to let everyone know that You know, when you lose a loved one, it changes you, but it also becomes you. So I'm at a place in my life where I'm more remembering who I am and being really connected to all that is. And I think that's the gift for both of us is how we connected because it's a true essence of we've become more in tune and we're tapped into things that we didn't even know. So it's like seeing the unseen and trusting.
speaker-0: For me, the light bulb moment, if you like, was, and I often call it coming out of the spiritual closet. ⁓ was the fear of being accepted by the narrative that you a little bit woo-woo and you've got the woo-crew ⁓ shirt ⁓
speaker-1: This is from Colette Baron Reed from many years ago. She's a Hay House author as well. I her. Yeah, I met her actually.
speaker-0: had to find a place where I was comfortable in having conversations about ⁓ the aspect of being a human. And when I gave myself permission to do that, found that there are so many other people in the same space. People that you would never expect to have a deep introspection metaphysical conversation with. ⁓ And they're off for these amazing insights. was kind of the unlock or the gave myself permission to just be me, just be real. And you started amazing. Yeah. You started the podcast by saying, the voice, ⁓ I think of this exercise in right ⁓ part of exercise is to speak your truth. And by speaking your truth, everything else unlocks ⁓ and ⁓
speaker-1: and then the heart. it's like through the heart. I literally, this is such a beautiful duo set because it's like what we're starting ⁓ out with is like being more in place of that expression. But again, if anyone knows about chakras, so blue works with the throat and the heart actually is green. So it's like connection to opening up the flower and we're building up from Gaia. earth all the way up to source divine creator. And I just want to share something. So I always pick a third card ⁓ and it just so happens to be Quan Yin. Again, feminine ⁓ So she is ⁓ action, close, actually sorry, choose compassion, move forward with grace. ⁓ literally we are expanding. We are in the unity of consciousness. So we're not hiding anymore. We're bringing forth everything that is meant for us in this moment specifically.
speaker-0: We're letting the thing do the job it was meant to do. And the thing is every, every aspect of our entity from the physical realm to the non-physical realm, that apparatus or that machine needs to be unlocked, needs to have free flowing energy without any distortions to be able to have a clear, clean signal to, source consciousness ⁓ and creator, however you define that. ⁓
speaker-1: I love it. I absolutely love it. And you know, it's interesting because I was up early in the morning this morning and I always like do little like I start creating a book or I start, I don't know, I make Oracle cards. I'm doing all these little projects and I think that's the thing. I'm birthing into more expression of myself and just to kind of share. oracle messages and affirmation cards and really stepping into ⁓ role. think the next thing is creating a deck and I've started it many years ago, but I think now is the time to place this into fruition ⁓ ⁓ more, I think it's more accepting as well. Do you agree?
speaker-0: Yeah. So let's, let's shift gears here and talk a little about the business. Okay. So in my experience, people in this realm create businesses or that attract the things that they are working on or want to be, or want to become better at. how that expressing itself for me ⁓ is I'm starting a called the Awakened Service Providers Network.
speaker-1: Amazing, congratulations.
speaker-0: And the tagline is it's a community of Heart-Centered Soul Aligned Difference Makers that have a safe place to congregate and There's a lot of ideas from a positive message generator to active acts of kindness cards that we I don't even think I even told you about that or did I a little bit? Yeah, which kind of ties into your tarot deck cards. that would be business
speaker-1: little bit.
speaker-0: Number one, that I'm building a community called the Awakened Service Providers Network. Tell us a little bit more about your tarot card deck.
speaker-1: for me personally, now where I'm at, it's, ⁓ like Tarot is a little than Oracle. So Oracle is more my thing. I'm tapped into Tarot just a little bit and I do understand it, but, I have taken some amazing courses from some beautiful souls in the past. So it is on my list, but I think that's a future list for me because, I really want to be thick into that. But when you do, more of an Oracle so Oracle is more of an affirmation and choosing different things, but I've elevated my Journey and my healing into more frequency based connections there's something that I do called light language the cards that I will be in making are focused on frequency codes to elevate ⁓ one's self kind of where I'm at again down the road the tarot could be a project but it's more, I've changed my way. I've paved into something that I never even knew was capable, but literally on Saturday I actually had an event and it was called Four One Diamond Heart Activation Gathering. And there was 15 authentic souls that were there as participants. And my dear friend Loretta and I, we did this together. And the reason I'm sharing this event specifically is because each member, a participant actually had a tuning fork session by me along with a light language session. So what that means it's all about putting them into a place of acknowledging where their soul is and where my soul is and elevating that. So that's why these cards are more focused on who I am as a person and as my essence. So I think that's what I've changed myself. So I thought maybe I was going to do something but now In this moment, I've changed who I am. So trust me, this project is going to be absolutely divine.
speaker-0: And that's a great example of the human part of us comes up with ideas and picks directions. You don't need to fall in love with your idea or your direction. You need to gut check it or use your intuition to navigate in the general area. And when it feels right, you will know. I like the oracle aspect of it because it's more inspirational, positive. So. We'll have to talk a little bit more about that. Maybe there could be some sort of blend with the other
speaker-1: Absolutely and and the thing is too just to kind of do a little snippet of it. So the difference of my Oracle deck is They're my visions. So I'm creating a card, but it's an actual vision that I've had in the card and So I was like no one can copy that because it's my vision it How does you know it just it comes right and I know that's a form of channeling and that kind of thing but this is something that's new for me and I'm embracing that and I think that's the gift in that regard but yes I love to interact with you on what you're doing too because I feel like we are very much the same that's why I call us the soul family because we have so many of these great ideas and we're implementing them so we can piggyback on each other that's what I think
speaker-0: what can give me the most satisfaction? Number two, what can have the most positive impact to the most amount of people the quickest, I think is a guiding thing. And three, can you incorporate it or can you, you is it scalable? Now, speaking of scalable, you had talked about, you actually have, we have a whiteboard here with several of your events. Events is a big thing for you in 2026. You wanna talk about what do these events look like? From what I understand, they're very
speaker-1: So.
speaker-0: small groups but very impactful. share with us the things that are up and coming here later in 2026.
speaker-1: Absolutely. So the cool thing for me that I've kind of stepped into this role of collabing with others and also working with myself. So it's a little bit of both. And I think that's the gift that I'm giving myself is honoring that. And because of that, I've met some beautiful souls that have brought some different flavors to the table. And so I think going forward, it's like the collaboration of these beautiful healers and seekers and ⁓ all us, we kind of like travel in rural Manitoba and a little bit of Winnipeg. And I think this is a new flavor for ⁓ those are really seeking healing, but also guidance ⁓ and, know, getting in tune with spirituality and trusting that. ⁓ The world needs us. And I think that's what I'm giving the flavor for myself is knowing that I am doing this for a purpose. And so as Intuitive Tan, I actually, with my background, when someone comes in for an appointment or they set an appointment ⁓ these events, it's basically half our appointments for myself and there's a set price. So I kind of implement a little bit of aromatherapy, a little bit of tuning fork and a pendulum. So just to let you know, I brought my pendulum and that's gonna be a different conversation at a different time, but ⁓ already it's charged up and it's ready to go for questions. So being tapped into this is very important for me because I know that I'm gonna be helping the humanity of almost I say the world broad spectrum. That's my goal. But when we tap into everyone one-on-one at these events, you know, my heart goes into it and you get the full, I mean, if it's 30 minutes, it's more of like me tapping in, doing a little bit of energy work with Reiki and then just clearing and then we pull a couple cards. And I think the thing is I feel that these moments of healing and helping It's just like the tip of the iceberg because then you can actually book a session one-on-one I do energy work and I do other things and I think the gift for me to help is bringing my my energy at such an authentic way to help those that want to pivot their direction of Of where they need to go because some people are starting to feel lost, you know
speaker-0: And every human on this planet is a precious fractalized ⁓ aspect source or of creator. And everyone has ⁓ such important role. Sometimes we forget that. it's great you can do the work to honor them, recognize them, and give them a little bit of a nudge and a direction. ⁓ also, ⁓ I'm of Yes.
speaker-1: Thank you.
speaker-0: Some people call them triggers, but I prefer the word activation. Everything that happens to a person, my belief is everything that happens to you in your life that has significance is a message from your higher self that you're either on the right track for your soul purpose or your soul mission or not. And if you find yourself that life is easy and it's flowing and it doesn't have any obstructions, that's the right path. but if you're not in alignment with your soul purpose or your mission or life mission, then you'll start having, from stubbing your toe ⁓ on table to having, extreme experiences all the way up to potentially, near death experiences. Absolutely. And then are given a choice to come back and continue their mission or not. ⁓ Yeah, the work that you do I think is so important for just letting people feel comfortable. Absolutely. They could come to you and say, can you provide some guidance? can my higher self connect with your higher self and conspire to give the best result for these lower self beings? ⁓
speaker-1: Absolutely, and I think when I'm doing this work now, I'm shifting the energy and the frequencies and I'm tender to everyone because not everyone understands what we are talking about. So we have to know that when we get into the heart connection and some souls, beautiful souls that come into my frequency and to the healing that I do, you know, ⁓ they're very vulnerable. And I think that's the heart center that I can bring to the table is that connection and know the heart pull strings are coming out. And we need to know that you can trust me as a conduit to help bring in what is meant for you at that time. So it's like peeling off one layer at a time. And I've heard that saying for many years now, and I know you have too. And I think that's where we're all bringing in this connection of unity. And so with the healers and seekers, It is one big event that's to the table, because there is other talented souls that come to these beautiful events. But I've stepped into a role where I've asked and met some beautiful, like-minded souls, and so the next event that's coming up ⁓ is May ⁓ 24th, ⁓ and that's in Winkler, Manitoba. And so ⁓ it is yoga studio, and is something that I was like, hey, let's do a sacred day retreat. So a little cacao ceremony, a little bit of yoga, a little meditation, and a little bit of healing. And there's a keynote speaker. this is, ⁓ again, in a retreat where it's sold out already. And it's called Become Yoga Studio. And LaDawn is the owner of that. And she opened up her arms to me when I suggested this. And she's like, Tan, this is on you. And I'm like, OK. It sold out. We did it. also, actually a Tibetan ⁓ person that's gonna be coming in. Her is Swati. She's such a sweetheart. So I think collaboration is my gift. Meeting and connecting people, that's where I'm at in my life. And I think that's the sole purpose of part of who I am and bringing in today some guest, spotlight guest speakers. ⁓ because in that way we can let them shine their light as well.
speaker-0: And it's all about resonance, right? If you have a tuning fork that vibrates at a certain frequency and the other one is far from it, it'll start vibrating. ⁓ And that's what people when, if you're either entering a room, you can shift the energy in that room just by being there. ⁓ or if you notice sometimes you meet somebody and you just feel good, but you haven't said anything, you don't even know who the person is. Okay. It goes back to the statement that you said earlier. The human doesn't need to understand how does this thing work. They just need to experience the energy and allow the energy to flow through. And then the biology of the human at the cellular level will understand, but the logical brain will not.
speaker-1: I love that. ⁓ it's almost like the signal is like this broad spectrum signal to the biofield or the field and bringing in that telepathic connection. You know, I feel that emotion and I do believe that everything that we do going forward has such beautiful authenticness and attention. I just know that ⁓ this work now ⁓ has changed me, elevated me, amplified to who I really am and what I'm supposed to do. And I think we're gonna be bringing in authentic souls for conversations and it's the magnet. Don't you agree? We're magnetizing each other.
speaker-0: Yeah. Let it happen. If it's meant to be. Yes. You still have to meet the universe half ways. You still have to get up in the morning. You still have to have the ideas. You have to execute. But my big belief is that if you meet the universe half ways, it's going to come and meet you right in the middle and it'll take you to the end. So I'm really looking forward to documenting your journey, your ideas, your businesses, our challenges. There's a few things that we'd like to collaborate on. And if there is any... other soul out there listening to this podcast that just feels attracted to what we're doing. Just reach out to us. We can bring you in as a guest. We can even have a conversation without recording just to help you to whatever stage of your business that you're in. And that's what this is all about, is to help.
speaker-1: Absolutely, I feel like our energy is going to be sparking and igniting souls and they don't even know in that moment what's going to happen and we don't know what that's going to what's going to happen but I think that's the the gift that we'll be bringing to the table is like we are open and conscious to this energy and I'm so grateful for that and bringing all this beauty together, you know
speaker-0: So let's finish this episode by dropping topics that we are interested in speaking about in future episodes. One of them ⁓ for me would be obviously everything related to energetics, the non-physical aspect of being a human, and ⁓ those deep questions who are we? What we? Why are we? Where are we? That's stuff that I really like to explore ⁓ as well as the different that we're working on. ⁓ What are some of the that you like to bring up and talk about?
speaker-1: I think for myself is connection ⁓ of the duality of the divine feminine, divine masculine. I feel like that's really important to understand that a little bit and healing modalities, what they actually offer because sometimes people don't understand maybe who I am and they could be scared or triggered. So I don't want anyone to be in that fear-based. I want everyone to be more in that love frequency, because that's who I am. I'm very airy and very fairy. So bringing in that piece of love connection. So to me, bringing in so much more of that tenderness and being open to that. And so then that way, one can connect to me and just trust that we're going to have beautiful conversations. So I think that's like the biggest thing for me is just having that blend of connection and unity.
speaker-0: Some of the topics that I'm thinking of as well is everything matrix related, truth capital T, lower T truth, reality capital R, lower R reality, and how this realm is structured and how it works. And of course, other things a bit more esoteric. Absolutely. ⁓
speaker-1: and energy, protecting your energy, creating those bubbles. That's really important because people, like you say, you walk in a Spiritual hygiene. Yeah, like 101, spiritual hygiene 101, because the thing is, you walk in a room and then you may leave that place and you could be crying and you don't know why, because you're taking on other people's energy. So I think that's important to understand that you can block that and get more in that place of connection to yourself and understanding that it's important to stay grounded as well. So it's like rooting ourselves but then connecting to the divine ⁓ bringing forth all the flavors in between.
speaker-0: so awesome. Let's do a check on our whiteboard, see if we missed anything. ⁓ let's just leave it there. This probably won't be for a long time, but we had talked about doing a frequency infused line of clothing or something apparel. then, the idea there was that there would be like a divine masculine aspect of it for the men's side and a divine feminine aspect of it on the women's side. I love it. But this is just an idea that we have right now. I've got all my podcast episodes. that I'm working on and we're doing good. I love it. I think that's pretty much it for this. What about you? Did you hit everything on your whiteboard? How about that last?
speaker-1: them. I know that, so October 17th, we have the Kindful full mindfulness. It's a symposium where bringing in that peace connection. I would like to talk more about that on a whole different episode because it's like so many things that are going to bring. We have keynote speakers. It's all for charity and from out of province, from out of province. And so that's a whole different, beautiful conversation. You know, we have a monk flying in from Toronto. Honestly, I'm just grateful for that when it does come into fruition. So I would share that more on a different episode because I think there's gonna be lots to talk about.
speaker-0: Yeah, and it's a good idea we could do episodes specific to like one event. Absolutely. It could be short.
speaker-1: Absolutely, absolutely and I love that and then we can bring in a couple of guest speakers, the event coordinator, our friend Loretta. I know she would definitely be focused into kind of tapping in because she's big on connecting everyone for that and my from ⁓ Oakville John Tan, he's the one that's been doing this for over eight years so ⁓ he be a great person to bring to the table as well. ⁓
speaker-0: Any parting words before we end this episode?
speaker-1: ⁓ Honestly, I think we are aligned, we are connected, and I trust the universe that we are guided to bring in forth the conversations that are meant to be. And I'm so grateful for you, Inquisitive Marc.
speaker-0: Thank you, thank you. I'm grateful for you as well.
speaker-1: Optimystic Marc.
speaker-0: So, Tanis, how did we meet? We always keep coming back to that story because it is quite unique.
speaker-1: It is quite unique and I love that. And the thing is, lived in IleDesChenes Manitoba for many years and you've lived in the same town. ⁓ I think social media literally first brought us together. I think there was like ⁓ Healers and Seekers event coming up that would just pass not too long ago in our town of IleDesChenes. ⁓ so that's where we actually met in a sense of where we connected and we didn't realize that we had a lot of common things. I have another podcast called Spiritual Sparkle. You have other podcasts, correct?
speaker-0: Several other in the podcast. So what I saw it on Facebook page that the event was happening here with called healers and seekers and I wanted to find out, you know, are they still taking exhibitors because I wanted to promote my Podcasts that we have and I reached out and I think that's where you responded and then we kind of Corresponded ⁓ very quickly. But absolutely we knew okay something us here together and From my backyard to your backyard, I can throw a football and you'd be able to catch it. We're going to have to try that this summer
speaker-1: I I agree. And it's funny because I've always had the opportunity in the past of these all these years, walking my dog in the backyard and I've always seen your house. I even waved at you sometimes, not even knowing I would have known who exactly. And so I love that about our town being friendly and just being excited to meet new people. But the thing is, literally, we are definitely a soul family. I call us like a soul family where We so many things that we have in that, the world of being common, ⁓ Intuitive, conscious unity, creation, co-creating, manifestation, all these things. And I know that's what caught my attention when I first saw you. was like, wait a minute, there's something very amazing about this soul. And I was so excited to get more in depth of knowing exactly who is Optimistic Marc.
speaker-0: And let's talk about divine timing because when we first connected, we knew, okay, something is here. What is it? Why? We're not sure. Let's get together. Our first attempt didn't work. Let's get together again. Second attempt didn't work. And I felt like I'm just gonna let the universe give me the clues as to when the right time We did not ⁓ to meet soon, soon, soon. And finally, One day, we just said, okay, I'm available, I'm free, you wanna meet up, and then we went for coffee. And then that's where we really solidified things.
speaker-1: And honestly, that day I did really feel like a soul family connection where it's like our souls intertwined together and it was like trusting the conversation and just like bringing in all this beautiful authenticness. And I think that's what you have to bring to the table is you're a creator, you're a builder, you've got like marketing background. And I know we met many years ago on my street. And I can't remember how many years ago that was, but I do remember again waving at you. It was like always waving at you from afar.
speaker-0: Interesting. Yeah. Right. So after that coffee, we probably met for an hour and a half there. it was quite a lengthy conversation. We both knew that something is going to happen, but we didn't know what it was, but we were okay with it. then you shared with me all the projects that you're working on. I shared with you all the projects that I'm working on. ⁓ we came up with the bright idea of, why don't we document this through a podcast? so that people that are trying to build conscious communities or spiritually infused brands can hear the story and we can bring in guests to help them either get exposure or help them walk through.
speaker-1: Absolutely, and I think the thing is having speaking through voice authentically the last two to three years for myself has brought more of a leadership, an empowerment ⁓ helping those in need. And ⁓ gift is that, we're becoming the highest version of ourselves. And I think that Intuitive Tan just fits my name so perfectly in that order is because it's like, The old version of me is like, it's melting away and this version of me now is like, let's do this. Let's stand on the stage and like share our knowledge, share what we have and be real. And I think that's the gift that I have today is when you take away those old patterns of, you know, self worth and not feeling enough. And I still have troubles, because that's just. embedded but at the same time lifting that veil bringing more of that highest authority that's the gift that I think is going to bring to the table.
speaker-0: and you're talking about service to others. And I often talk about, you, me, we are all souls that have made a decision to come and play this game called a human, being human. And if our higher selves is more intelligent than our lower selves, then you should try to connect with a higher source of energy that animates this. mechanism or machine this biological machine that we have here. I love it. And that's for other episodes we could give it to the meat potatoes of all some of the theories that I just love digging really deep on who are we, what are we, why are we here, and what is our sole purpose, our soul mission.
speaker-1: Absolutely, and that's why I love your name Optimystic Marc because you're bringing all these flavors into one piece of the pie But you're you're tapping into it So it's like little episode series and then we can take it on to a whole different type of Energy and I think that's the idealist of that is like we're creating co-creating and manifestation ⁓ of much ⁓ of and you know what We don't have to second guess ourselves on this and being more Intuitive and raw. I think that's the gift that we're going to be bringing and being present with each other.
speaker-0: Go with the flow. Yes. Let's go. I love it. talk about going with the flow. let's start sharing on some of the projects that you're working on. But one of the skills that you have is tarot card reading. ⁓ we had talked about, let's pull a card or two and see ⁓ it tells us ⁓ use that as a guidepost for ⁓ conversation here today. ⁓
speaker-1: The card deck that jumped out at me this morning as I was arriving, it's called the Divine Masters by Kyle Gray. are becoming more in tune with leadership ⁓ and expression. so I feel that today I did a shuffle and the first card that jumped out was Mother Mary. Can you see? Yes. Perfect. So Mother Mary is all about miracles and bringing in those encounters. divine experiences, but do not be afraid of being powerful. And that's literally what I just said, no joke, where I'm tapping into oneself of myself and allowing the divine feminine of me to come through with authority. So I think this card is focused on myself, but I think it's also focused on the divine feminine for those viewers out there that are really tapping into that source connection of a female and feminine side. just saying that the other card that was pulled I think is catered to more for you Marc. And the reason I say that it's green terra, healing light, wellness unfolding, know the healing is a journey. So I feel that you're tapping into your own journey and bringing in forth of what it is of heart centered and being so grounded in that place of connection to heart. And I think that's how our souls met. is the colors blue is all about communication and the color green is about the heart. So Intuitive Tan today in this moment is sharing that it's all about the divine feminine. So bringing out more of your feminine Marc then that way you can bring in the flavors of beauty and not being afraid of that connection and you're doing that soul healing. So I think together we're gonna bring in that flavor of new new and just different things that serve purpose. Does that make sense?
speaker-0: It totally resonates with me and it aligns with, know, we are all souls on a journey. We are all here to heal and healing not in the sense that most people think it means, but healing in understanding the entire spectrum of this human experience, both the dark side and the light side and integrating both of those and accepting and learning to love the things we don't love. on the other card the Mary one I had the thought of ascended masters So there are many souls that came to this earth in the past obviously Mother Mary was one of them. So she embodied the divine feminine in an ascended master persona I love it and my belief is that on the on the planet here today in 2026 there are countless ascended masters walking among us that they might not, the human aspect of themselves might not even be aware that they are ascended master souls, but they came here on a mission. And I believe the bigger picture is to help heal the entire planet because it's gone through so much. And we talked about the end of the Yuga cycle that was focused on the physical aspect of being human and service to self aspect of being human. And now we're entering the next Yuga cycle, which is focused on the spiritual or the non-physical aspect of being human and service to others, service to all sentient beings.
speaker-1: I love that. so just to kind of give you a little bit of background for myself, as an Intuitive, I have the opportunity now, when I do healing sessions, I've done energy work for over 30 years, I'm a Reiki master, but I hid for 30 years because I think I was too soon for that because nobody really understood what it was. They didn't know what energy work was or Reiki. And so I did really try to get myself out there back then. And people do know me, but it was more one on one and I called, it was more like I did a Reiki shot or I did hand massages. And that, was kind of my gift because I have my license in aesthetics. So I took that in 1996. And you know, I believe that I have all these different flavors today that have elevated me to where I am. And that's why I'm feeling so confident in what I do. And I'm so proud of that. And just to kind of know where my awakening started was three years ago with my father of his passing. So I think that personally changed who I was then and who I am now. So he's actually shared so many different signs and I'm so grateful and you know the stories can revel as we continue on. But I just wanted to let everyone know that You know, when you lose a loved one, it changes you, but it also becomes you. So I'm at a place in my life where I'm more remembering who I am and being really connected to all that is. And I think that's the gift for both of us is how we connected because it's a true essence of we've become more in tune and we're tapped into things that we didn't even know. So it's like seeing the unseen and trusting.
speaker-0: For me, the light bulb moment, if you like, was, and I often call it coming out of the spiritual closet. ⁓ was the fear of being accepted by the narrative that you a little bit woo-woo and you've got the woo-crew ⁓ shirt ⁓
speaker-1: This is from Colette Baron Reed from many years ago. She's a Hay House author as well. I her. Yeah, I met her actually.
speaker-0: had to find a place where I was comfortable in having conversations about ⁓ the aspect of being a human. And when I gave myself permission to do that, found that there are so many other people in the same space. People that you would never expect to have a deep introspection metaphysical conversation with. ⁓ And they're off for these amazing insights. was kind of the unlock or the gave myself permission to just be me, just be real. And you started amazing. Yeah. You started the podcast by saying, the voice, ⁓ I think of this exercise in right ⁓ part of exercise is to speak your truth. And by speaking your truth, everything else unlocks ⁓ and ⁓
speaker-1: and then the heart. it's like through the heart. I literally, this is such a beautiful duo set because it's like what we're starting ⁓ out with is like being more in place of that expression. But again, if anyone knows about chakras, so blue works with the throat and the heart actually is green. So it's like connection to opening up the flower and we're building up from Gaia. earth all the way up to source divine creator. And I just want to share something. So I always pick a third card ⁓ and it just so happens to be Quan Yin. Again, feminine ⁓ So she is ⁓ action, close, actually sorry, choose compassion, move forward with grace. ⁓ literally we are expanding. We are in the unity of consciousness. So we're not hiding anymore. We're bringing forth everything that is meant for us in this moment specifically.
speaker-0: We're letting the thing do the job it was meant to do. And the thing is every, every aspect of our entity from the physical realm to the non-physical realm, that apparatus or that machine needs to be unlocked, needs to have free flowing energy without any distortions to be able to have a clear, clean signal to, source consciousness ⁓ and creator, however you define that. ⁓
speaker-1: I love it. I absolutely love it. And you know, it's interesting because I was up early in the morning this morning and I always like do little like I start creating a book or I start, I don't know, I make Oracle cards. I'm doing all these little projects and I think that's the thing. I'm birthing into more expression of myself and just to kind of share. oracle messages and affirmation cards and really stepping into ⁓ role. think the next thing is creating a deck and I've started it many years ago, but I think now is the time to place this into fruition ⁓ ⁓ more, I think it's more accepting as well. Do you agree?
speaker-0: Yeah. So let's, let's shift gears here and talk a little about the business. Okay. So in my experience, people in this realm create businesses or that attract the things that they are working on or want to be, or want to become better at. how that expressing itself for me ⁓ is I'm starting a called the Awakened Service Providers Network.
speaker-1: Amazing, congratulations.
speaker-0: And the tagline is it's a community of Heart-Centered Soul Aligned Difference Makers that have a safe place to congregate and There's a lot of ideas from a positive message generator to active acts of kindness cards that we I don't even think I even told you about that or did I a little bit? Yeah, which kind of ties into your tarot deck cards. that would be business
speaker-1: little bit.
speaker-0: Number one, that I'm building a community called the Awakened Service Providers Network. Tell us a little bit more about your tarot card deck.
speaker-1: for me personally, now where I'm at, it's, ⁓ like Tarot is a little than Oracle. So Oracle is more my thing. I'm tapped into Tarot just a little bit and I do understand it, but, I have taken some amazing courses from some beautiful souls in the past. So it is on my list, but I think that's a future list for me because, I really want to be thick into that. But when you do, more of an Oracle so Oracle is more of an affirmation and choosing different things, but I've elevated my Journey and my healing into more frequency based connections there's something that I do called light language the cards that I will be in making are focused on frequency codes to elevate ⁓ one's self kind of where I'm at again down the road the tarot could be a project but it's more, I've changed my way. I've paved into something that I never even knew was capable, but literally on Saturday I actually had an event and it was called Four One Diamond Heart Activation Gathering. And there was 15 authentic souls that were there as participants. And my dear friend Loretta and I, we did this together. And the reason I'm sharing this event specifically is because each member, a participant actually had a tuning fork session by me along with a light language session. So what that means it's all about putting them into a place of acknowledging where their soul is and where my soul is and elevating that. So that's why these cards are more focused on who I am as a person and as my essence. So I think that's what I've changed myself. So I thought maybe I was going to do something but now In this moment, I've changed who I am. So trust me, this project is going to be absolutely divine.
speaker-0: And that's a great example of the human part of us comes up with ideas and picks directions. You don't need to fall in love with your idea or your direction. You need to gut check it or use your intuition to navigate in the general area. And when it feels right, you will know. I like the oracle aspect of it because it's more inspirational, positive. So. We'll have to talk a little bit more about that. Maybe there could be some sort of blend with the other
speaker-1: Absolutely and and the thing is too just to kind of do a little snippet of it. So the difference of my Oracle deck is They're my visions. So I'm creating a card, but it's an actual vision that I've had in the card and So I was like no one can copy that because it's my vision it How does you know it just it comes right and I know that's a form of channeling and that kind of thing but this is something that's new for me and I'm embracing that and I think that's the gift in that regard but yes I love to interact with you on what you're doing too because I feel like we are very much the same that's why I call us the soul family because we have so many of these great ideas and we're implementing them so we can piggyback on each other that's what I think
speaker-0: what can give me the most satisfaction? Number two, what can have the most positive impact to the most amount of people the quickest, I think is a guiding thing. And three, can you incorporate it or can you, you is it scalable? Now, speaking of scalable, you had talked about, you actually have, we have a whiteboard here with several of your events. Events is a big thing for you in 2026. You wanna talk about what do these events look like? From what I understand, they're very
speaker-1: So.
speaker-0: small groups but very impactful. share with us the things that are up and coming here later in 2026.
speaker-1: Absolutely. So the cool thing for me that I've kind of stepped into this role of collabing with others and also working with myself. So it's a little bit of both. And I think that's the gift that I'm giving myself is honoring that. And because of that, I've met some beautiful souls that have brought some different flavors to the table. And so I think going forward, it's like the collaboration of these beautiful healers and seekers and ⁓ all us, we kind of like travel in rural Manitoba and a little bit of Winnipeg. And I think this is a new flavor for ⁓ those are really seeking healing, but also guidance ⁓ and, know, getting in tune with spirituality and trusting that. ⁓ The world needs us. And I think that's what I'm giving the flavor for myself is knowing that I am doing this for a purpose. And so as Intuitive Tan, I actually, with my background, when someone comes in for an appointment or they set an appointment ⁓ these events, it's basically half our appointments for myself and there's a set price. So I kind of implement a little bit of aromatherapy, a little bit of tuning fork and a pendulum. So just to let you know, I brought my pendulum and that's gonna be a different conversation at a different time, but ⁓ already it's charged up and it's ready to go for questions. So being tapped into this is very important for me because I know that I'm gonna be helping the humanity of almost I say the world broad spectrum. That's my goal. But when we tap into everyone one-on-one at these events, you know, my heart goes into it and you get the full, I mean, if it's 30 minutes, it's more of like me tapping in, doing a little bit of energy work with Reiki and then just clearing and then we pull a couple cards. And I think the thing is I feel that these moments of healing and helping It's just like the tip of the iceberg because then you can actually book a session one-on-one I do energy work and I do other things and I think the gift for me to help is bringing my my energy at such an authentic way to help those that want to pivot their direction of Of where they need to go because some people are starting to feel lost, you know
speaker-0: And every human on this planet is a precious fractalized ⁓ aspect source or of creator. And everyone has ⁓ such important role. Sometimes we forget that. it's great you can do the work to honor them, recognize them, and give them a little bit of a nudge and a direction. ⁓ also, ⁓ I'm of Yes.
speaker-1: Thank you.
speaker-0: Some people call them triggers, but I prefer the word activation. Everything that happens to a person, my belief is everything that happens to you in your life that has significance is a message from your higher self that you're either on the right track for your soul purpose or your soul mission or not. And if you find yourself that life is easy and it's flowing and it doesn't have any obstructions, that's the right path. but if you're not in alignment with your soul purpose or your mission or life mission, then you'll start having, from stubbing your toe ⁓ on table to having, extreme experiences all the way up to potentially, near death experiences. Absolutely. And then are given a choice to come back and continue their mission or not. ⁓ Yeah, the work that you do I think is so important for just letting people feel comfortable. Absolutely. They could come to you and say, can you provide some guidance? can my higher self connect with your higher self and conspire to give the best result for these lower self beings? ⁓
speaker-1: Absolutely, and I think when I'm doing this work now, I'm shifting the energy and the frequencies and I'm tender to everyone because not everyone understands what we are talking about. So we have to know that when we get into the heart connection and some souls, beautiful souls that come into my frequency and to the healing that I do, you know, ⁓ they're very vulnerable. And I think that's the heart center that I can bring to the table is that connection and know the heart pull strings are coming out. And we need to know that you can trust me as a conduit to help bring in what is meant for you at that time. So it's like peeling off one layer at a time. And I've heard that saying for many years now, and I know you have too. And I think that's where we're all bringing in this connection of unity. And so with the healers and seekers, It is one big event that's to the table, because there is other talented souls that come to these beautiful events. But I've stepped into a role where I've asked and met some beautiful, like-minded souls, and so the next event that's coming up ⁓ is May ⁓ 24th, ⁓ and that's in Winkler, Manitoba. And so ⁓ it is yoga studio, and is something that I was like, hey, let's do a sacred day retreat. So a little cacao ceremony, a little bit of yoga, a little meditation, and a little bit of healing. And there's a keynote speaker. this is, ⁓ again, in a retreat where it's sold out already. And it's called Become Yoga Studio. And LaDawn is the owner of that. And she opened up her arms to me when I suggested this. And she's like, Tan, this is on you. And I'm like, OK. It sold out. We did it. also, actually a Tibetan ⁓ person that's gonna be coming in. Her is Swati. She's such a sweetheart. So I think collaboration is my gift. Meeting and connecting people, that's where I'm at in my life. And I think that's the sole purpose of part of who I am and bringing in today some guest, spotlight guest speakers. ⁓ because in that way we can let them shine their light as well.
speaker-0: And it's all about resonance, right? If you have a tuning fork that vibrates at a certain frequency and the other one is far from it, it'll start vibrating. ⁓ And that's what people when, if you're either entering a room, you can shift the energy in that room just by being there. ⁓ or if you notice sometimes you meet somebody and you just feel good, but you haven't said anything, you don't even know who the person is. Okay. It goes back to the statement that you said earlier. The human doesn't need to understand how does this thing work. They just need to experience the energy and allow the energy to flow through. And then the biology of the human at the cellular level will understand, but the logical brain will not.
speaker-1: I love that. ⁓ it's almost like the signal is like this broad spectrum signal to the biofield or the field and bringing in that telepathic connection. You know, I feel that emotion and I do believe that everything that we do going forward has such beautiful authenticness and attention. I just know that ⁓ this work now ⁓ has changed me, elevated me, amplified to who I really am and what I'm supposed to do. And I think we're gonna be bringing in authentic souls for conversations and it's the magnet. Don't you agree? We're magnetizing each other.
speaker-0: Yeah. Let it happen. If it's meant to be. Yes. You still have to meet the universe half ways. You still have to get up in the morning. You still have to have the ideas. You have to execute. But my big belief is that if you meet the universe half ways, it's going to come and meet you right in the middle and it'll take you to the end. So I'm really looking forward to documenting your journey, your ideas, your businesses, our challenges. There's a few things that we'd like to collaborate on. And if there is any... other soul out there listening to this podcast that just feels attracted to what we're doing. Just reach out to us. We can bring you in as a guest. We can even have a conversation without recording just to help you to whatever stage of your business that you're in. And that's what this is all about, is to help.
speaker-1: Absolutely, I feel like our energy is going to be sparking and igniting souls and they don't even know in that moment what's going to happen and we don't know what that's going to what's going to happen but I think that's the the gift that we'll be bringing to the table is like we are open and conscious to this energy and I'm so grateful for that and bringing all this beauty together, you know
speaker-0: So let's finish this episode by dropping topics that we are interested in speaking about in future episodes. One of them ⁓ for me would be obviously everything related to energetics, the non-physical aspect of being a human, and ⁓ those deep questions who are we? What we? Why are we? Where are we? That's stuff that I really like to explore ⁓ as well as the different that we're working on. ⁓ What are some of the that you like to bring up and talk about?
speaker-1: I think for myself is connection ⁓ of the duality of the divine feminine, divine masculine. I feel like that's really important to understand that a little bit and healing modalities, what they actually offer because sometimes people don't understand maybe who I am and they could be scared or triggered. So I don't want anyone to be in that fear-based. I want everyone to be more in that love frequency, because that's who I am. I'm very airy and very fairy. So bringing in that piece of love connection. So to me, bringing in so much more of that tenderness and being open to that. And so then that way, one can connect to me and just trust that we're going to have beautiful conversations. So I think that's like the biggest thing for me is just having that blend of connection and unity.
speaker-0: Some of the topics that I'm thinking of as well is everything matrix related, truth capital T, lower T truth, reality capital R, lower R reality, and how this realm is structured and how it works. And of course, other things a bit more esoteric. Absolutely. ⁓
speaker-1: and energy, protecting your energy, creating those bubbles. That's really important because people, like you say, you walk in a Spiritual hygiene. Yeah, like 101, spiritual hygiene 101, because the thing is, you walk in a room and then you may leave that place and you could be crying and you don't know why, because you're taking on other people's energy. So I think that's important to understand that you can block that and get more in that place of connection to yourself and understanding that it's important to stay grounded as well. So it's like rooting ourselves but then connecting to the divine ⁓ bringing forth all the flavors in between.
speaker-0: so awesome. Let's do a check on our whiteboard, see if we missed anything. ⁓ let's just leave it there. This probably won't be for a long time, but we had talked about doing a frequency infused line of clothing or something apparel. then, the idea there was that there would be like a divine masculine aspect of it for the men's side and a divine feminine aspect of it on the women's side. I love it. But this is just an idea that we have right now. I've got all my podcast episodes. that I'm working on and we're doing good. I love it. I think that's pretty much it for this. What about you? Did you hit everything on your whiteboard? How about that last?
speaker-1: them. I know that, so October 17th, we have the Kindful full mindfulness. It's a symposium where bringing in that peace connection. I would like to talk more about that on a whole different episode because it's like so many things that are going to bring. We have keynote speakers. It's all for charity and from out of province, from out of province. And so that's a whole different, beautiful conversation. You know, we have a monk flying in from Toronto. Honestly, I'm just grateful for that when it does come into fruition. So I would share that more on a different episode because I think there's gonna be lots to talk about.
speaker-0: Yeah, and it's a good idea we could do episodes specific to like one event. Absolutely. It could be short.
speaker-1: Absolutely, absolutely and I love that and then we can bring in a couple of guest speakers, the event coordinator, our friend Loretta. I know she would definitely be focused into kind of tapping in because she's big on connecting everyone for that and my from ⁓ Oakville John Tan, he's the one that's been doing this for over eight years so ⁓ he be a great person to bring to the table as well. ⁓
speaker-0: Any parting words before we end this episode?
speaker-1: ⁓ Honestly, I think we are aligned, we are connected, and I trust the universe that we are guided to bring in forth the conversations that are meant to be. And I'm so grateful for you, Inquisitive Marc.
speaker-0: Thank you, thank you. I'm grateful for you as well.
