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Warren Phillips has been in toxin work for over twenty years, and when someone asked him what he would do differently, his answer was not a more advanced protocol. It was to start with binders and stop there for a while.
His reasoning runs through the bile. Fat soluble toxins conjugated in the liver leave through the bile into the small intestine, and Warren's position is that most of that load gets reabsorbed and sent back to the liver rather than leaving the body. Drive phase two harder in that situation, he says, and you are adding to a bucket that is already full. Put something in the gut that binds bile, and you interrupt the loop before you ask the liver to do more.
From there we got into why the word binder covers materials that behave nothing alike. Carbon is the strongest bile binder he knows of in the research. Clay binds bile weakly and, at the pH of the stomach, is not what he would rely on for metals. Humics bind some bile, fulvics largely leave the gut, and zeolites prefer heavy metals. He is also blunt that contamination is common enough to matter, because a binder carrying lead is adding to the problem it was bought to solve. I told him about the 15 years I spent doing every holistic detox practice I could find, never using a binder, and testing with my toxin levels still off the charts.
The part I keep thinking about is his line that detox should not make people sick. If someone feels worse on a protocol, his read is not that it is working, it is that something is being mobilized faster than it is being removed. We ended on the nervous system, which is where this comes back to my own practice: a body carrying a heavy toxic load sits in sympathetic, and no amount of nervous system work holds while that load stays where it is. Cyclic sighing is the tool I offer patients in the meantime, and Warren makes a fair point that the sickest patients often cannot manage even that at first.
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About the Guest:
Warren Phillips, MS, is an environmental scientist and non toxic living educator, known to most people as Non Toxic Dad. He holds a master's degree in geology with a background in environmental science, and he has spent more than twenty years in toxin reduction and detoxification, including eighteen years training practitioners.
He is the founder of Non Toxic Dad and a founder of the supplement brand True Cellular Formulas, whose products include CytoDetox. His own recovery from toxic illness is what moved him from field science into this work, and his focus now is on making detoxification simpler and less expensive for the people who need it most.
Websites: https://nontoxicdad.com / https://truecellularformulas.com
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Dr. Ashley Beckman, LAc, DCM
Website: https://drashley.com/
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Dr. Isaac Jones, DC
Websites: https://healthexpertsalliance.com/ , https://disrupthealthcare.co/drtalks
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