A Coruscating Conversation with The Lonely Teardrops

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All right, here we go.
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Yes, the lonely teardrops are here.
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Welcome.
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Thank you.
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All right, we're gonna kind of nerd out a little bit on the name before we go anywhere else.
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So wondering if the name has anything to do with the old Jackie Wilson song.
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The lonely teardrops definitely has a lot of meaning.
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Okay, so when I first started The Lonely Teardrops, I was breaking up with somebody obviously for 10 years, you know.
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And so I started off with the like kind of like a slow country vibe.
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The lonely teardrops really fit that vibe.
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There's also from the New York dolls, Sylvain Sylvain used to play in a band called The Teardrops.
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And then, of course, the Jackie Wilson song, you know, lonely teardrops.
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I love that.
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So it all kind of tied together.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And you have little sparkly teardrops.
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So cute.
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So cute.
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Especially with our little kitty cat ears.
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Like this whole scene, we got to get a picture.
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You have kitty cat ears.
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I do, but I don't have sparkly.
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I'm so jealous.
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You can have mine.
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That was so good.
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All right.
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So your sound pulls from like mod garage, surf, soul, and even country, which you mentioned.
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Somehow it still feels kind of cohesive instead of all over the place.
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Were those influences intentional from the beginning, or did the sound just naturally evolve from everyone's tastes colliding?
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I definitely think it was natural.
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When I was growing up, my my mom used to sing with her f her sister's girl group stuff, like the Shangri-Las and stuff like that.
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So I did like a deep dive into like garage girls from that era.
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That really struck a note with me and punk rock music.
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So yeah.
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So well, I have the best compliment in the world for you guys.
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Oh.
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I have a 15-year-old.
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And you know how mean 15-year-olds can be.
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Yeah.
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So nothing I do is cool.
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Nothing.
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You guys are here.
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This is cool.
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She doesn't give a shit.
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So every time we have an artist, I play the music for her.
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I know at some point it will mean something, but she still doesn't give a shit.
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So I played some songs from you guys the other day, last weekend we were driving to Carrytown, and she goes, Go back to that song.
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She goes, Will you send that to me so I can add it to my playlist?
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Oh my God.
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I swear to God.
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Wow.
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Like with the approval of a 15-year-old.
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I'm telling you, it was it was a lot.
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It was more than you could ever know.
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Thank you.
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What's her name?
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Uh Tegan.
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Tegan, thank you.
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She's a sweetheart.
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She's a little artist.
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Okay.
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She's an artist.
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She's starting to like me a little bit.
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She is.
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A little bit.
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So I want to hear an answer from all of you on this.
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For people hearing you, perhaps for the first time tonight.
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How would each of you describe the band's sound?
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Well, I would definitely say Maud Garage with a little surf and soul and a big country heart.
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Wow.
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That's yeah.
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Well, does anyone want to try and top that?
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What did you leave out?
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That's killing.
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He's gonna know.
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Go in there.
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Red hot sizzle.
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Nice.
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With some red hot sizzle and a little drizzle.
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We'll got that fixed.
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It's good because you're bringing it to Europe tomorrow.
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He did a little drizzle.
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He did.
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He just drizzled.
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I dropped my whole entire glass of wine.
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So you're good.
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I like to describe us as punk rock and roll.
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60s garage flavor and a splash of surf.
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And by the way, that is a real accent.
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Yes.
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Johnny clarified that earlier.
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It is not part of his band persona.
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We are.
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Simon's from Kentucky.
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It's just a real strong draw.
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Oh my God.
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I'm going to say the same thing Simon says, except not the accent.
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But I need to answer it.
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I've known Caden for almost 30 years.
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Yes.
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And I've known her when she was in punk rock bands.
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And I, you know, this is way back in Norfolk when we'd hang out and knew that whole scene.
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So I know all these characters.
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Everybody, everybody in the band tells stories because you know all these people.
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But having hearing the sound over all these years, it's like it's come to a point which I think is really what the sound she wanted to get for all these years, as far as a tighter, like a louder band.
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Because she records a lot, but I'm like, I think this is a good band to sort of get across what you're trying to do.
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So it's pretty good.
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It's nice to be playing with you.
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I love you.
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Well, I've been begging you to play sacks with us forever.
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Well, you know how it is.
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Have you not played with Kitty before?
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I mean, we've played, like, you know, fiddled around.
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We've never played.
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A lot, actually.
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Yeah.
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So do you guys know each other?
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No.
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Not only do we not know each other, we don't like each other.
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I just walked in his room and people are.
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Oh my gosh.
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Well, you guys did a sound check earlier and it was still.
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I mean, it just an immediate, like, I want to play in this.
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It made me kind of feel, I don't, this doesn't really fit anything you guys said, but it gave me a little bit of a I maybe it was you, but the a little New Orleans, like, I don't know.
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Yeah.
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It really gave me that sense of like I'm on the street in New Orleans and I want to just dance and get one of those crazy hurricanes and a big straw.
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You all have been doing this since 2005, which honestly is impressive, definitely, because keeping any band together creatively that long is kind of a miracle.
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But what do you think has actually kept this thing alive for all these years?
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Me.
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Hammering it like come play sacks.
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Yeah.
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Well, the band's been through a bunch of you know changes since 2005 for sure.
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But you have still been I mean, rocking it.
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But that, yeah.
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I think if you pick a name, you could stick with it, you know.
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Like, you know, like because I mean, especially like if it builds something into something, then you don't want to go change in your name for this.
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Why why make people work so hard?
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Just keep with the lonely teardrops, even though it's gone through stages of like it may not sound like the lonely teardrops right now, but maybe it will in the future.
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Well, I think Katie's voice is a lot to the sound, you know.
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I think her that's a consistency that is attractive where the where the band is the band.
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And the songwriting.
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The songwriting.
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Exactly, the songwriting.
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And so I think that's that's one of the main things that just trying to transcend all these years and whatever the band might be, or whatever Katie's thoughts.
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I mean, everything, everybody changes, and so I think it's as far as I'm concerned.
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That's just a huge that's a huge part of all these groups you think about in Richmond or wherever else.
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Like, I know what Katie sounds like and be.
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Yeah, that's nice.
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Brian.
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So, how did this collection of people come to be?
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Okay.
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Well, that I love that you asked that because this is kind of my favorite.
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Oh, that's great.
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These are my favorite people ever.
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This is my favorite marriage.
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Yeah.
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So I guess being in a band is exactly like being in a marriage, yeah.
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Sort of, but yeah.
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Uh without the sex, but you know.
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Hey, we got all that.
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It said all the Leo that says, oh man, it's off the table.
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That was him who said something.
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I didn't say it was off the table.
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You didn't say who I didn't say it was off the table.
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Over the table.
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Over the table.
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I know.
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Oh my goodness.
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But I should probably like start with like, okay, I had like a girl drummer, her name was Kim, and Nate, who played bass when we first started.
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Oh, it's a person.
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Yeah, okay.
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Yeah.
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Oh, at Carrie Street.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Blee and and Dave.
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And then I got involved with this guy, Crash LaResh, who played with Dexter Rom Weber, and he was a great drummer, played standing up, and we started dating and played for a good four or five years together, and we toured a lot.
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We broke up and then it's a blur.
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Oh, I had some people from Norfolk, Kenny and Jamie and Dickie.
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Yeah.
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And then COVID hit, and everything, you know, came to a stop, really.
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And so I moved out to the mountains, and then I was like, I want to move back to Richmond because I was in the mountains going crazy.
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I was playing music a lot and actually recorded an album and everything while I was there.
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I wanted to get the band back together.
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But I was like not living in Richmond.
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So I think I put what where did I put that?
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Craigslist or Facebook?
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Facebook, yeah.
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Hey, who wants to join the Lonely Teardrops?
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You know?
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And Simon goes, I love this.
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This is perfect.
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Oh, we had Jamie playing drums.
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That's right.
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Jamie Lay.
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Yeah.
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And oh, and I knew Jamie from playing in a previous band.
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I don't know if I can say it, the strap-ons.
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah.
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No, this isn't Jamie here.
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That's my old punk band.
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Okay.
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Strap-on.
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Strap on a guitar.
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Yeah, strap on my boots.
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I know.
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I love it.
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So we can say chicks with dicks.
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Yeah, no, yeah, you can say chicks with dicks.
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It's okay.
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Okay.
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That's the next one.
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I hate when I run into that.
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I mean, that's not my thing.
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I saw an advert, Katie, was looking for a bass player, and they had a gig.
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And I was like, man, I love your stuff.
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I really want to play with you.
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I think I can handle it, no problem.
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Except on Friday I'm gonna buffalo for a couple of weeks.
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And so we had a practice, and I recorded it and took a lot of notes.
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And then I went away with my recording and a bass guitar, and I was up in upstate New York just like practicing by myself, working it out what I should be playing.
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And then I came back and came back and killed it.
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I had one practice and then it's all like boom.
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Uh so yeah, you know, white knuckling a little bit, like what can you get you for the changes, and uh and it was and it was super fun.
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Uh current lineup is the most fun.
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Yeah.
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I don't know, there's a vibe in the band.
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I think there's more potentially more humor in the band now.
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I love it.
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When I was watching you guys play, I was watching each one of you as a character in this band, and it really is great gel.
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It's massive.
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Yeah, we can't wait for everyone to hear the music.
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But can we introduce, because we do have four people plus us in the studio.
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We've already done it in the intro, just so you know.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Because I want to make sure so everybody knows who's who.
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Okay.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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All right, so that's but we can do it again.
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We wouldn't.
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That's why remember how I normally say that, like it's gonna seem premature.
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We're gonna cut that all out.
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But it's gonna seem premature because we've already Okay, yeah, yeah.
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Very good.
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So what was the movie with all the drummers that just kept being replaced?
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Spinal tap.
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Yes, that's what you guys are like Spinal Tap.
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Okay.
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I haven't seen that in so you need to stick.
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You need to stick.
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At a certain point, I'll I will explain.
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I expect it.
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So, what how did you come to be in the band?
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Not in life.
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No.
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Well, I mean that too.
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Well, when a man loves a woman.
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Hold on the tender.
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When uh you know, when a man loves a woman, they lay together and they waggle around and then eventually the drummer has to be.
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I'm not sure how to treat this one because uh you know, I I will say that I saw Katie playing around town.
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I always love Katie's energy and her music.
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I like to play rock and roll.
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I'm in several bands, but this one is supercharged.
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Yeah, I have to put extra octane into it.
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And so that's uh awesome.
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What were you doing?
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Putting your foot in your mouth.
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Wait, I thought that sounded great.
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I think it sounded great.
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Absolutely.
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Ricky was pleasant.
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Oh, because I dissed my other no, I'm not sure.
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Save us Simon, save a Simon.
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Yeah.
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Ricky was at a gig of ours, and it was the last gig of our drummer.
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Previous drummer, yeah.
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Yeah.
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We're like, well, that's his last gig.
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Ricky was there, we got chatting, and we're like, hey, I know you're really busy with all of your other bands, but Ricky came up to me and was like I'm playing your next show.
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Nice.
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Okay, so I didn't want to tell that story.
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Well, yeah, but no need to be.
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But I but but what I did is I flew in off a cloud and I said, I'm gonna save your band.
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It was an angel.
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Because I'm amazing.
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Um, I knew that I could help out, and I and I and I could I could see that the potential of what a tight rhythm section and and and band could be.
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Uh and he did.
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Lovely.
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Yeah.
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Well, I liked watching you play the drums because and when you started singing, it was just so good.
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Oh yeah.
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That was fun.
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I know I brought it up again.
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Drumming and singing.
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He was?
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Right?
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Yeah.
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I mean, uh for the I knew somebody else was a singer.
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Kind of drumming and yelling.
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Besides, I can't play sacrificing at the same time, so I gotta sacrifice for the same.
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I'd like to see that happen though.
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He does.
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But he does.
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Okay, yeah.
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You do cowball.
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Rob Lowe could do it.
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I guarantee you that.
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Remember?
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Rob Low.
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Rob Lowe.
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Although on a cramped stage, you've shared the mic with me a couple of times.
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It's all for look on.
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It looks great.
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It does look great, I think it's good.
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We're like Mick and Keith, you know.
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That's a shot.
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Katie called me about a year and a half ago and said, There's a song I want you to play on.
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And like, I can't do it.
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It came down to me not being able to play the song.
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So that went.
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So a year later, she goes, Oh, there's a song that I want you to play on.
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I'm like, here's the song, here's the song.
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I'm like, okay.
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I learned it.
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Gotta have a rehearsal on a Sunday.
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Oh, there's another song, too.
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Oh.
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So that night we went through 14 songs.
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I just made it all up and win it, as we do as a musician.
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And then we had a Wednesday practice, and then Friday was the gig.
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Sorry, Simon.
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I had two.
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You only had one, so but I think it it's it's always fun to be able to get musicians because you can really you know how to play and go in and out of what people they've already been playing for a while.
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I'm just there to sort of like color it and sort of fill it up a little bit.
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I love playing with them also.
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It's a great opportunity.
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And these guys are fantastic.
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Wow.
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I love how you said color it.
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I know I love that.
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That's really good.
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It's a second book.
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So were you enticing him knowing you wanted him full time?
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Sure.
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I've been wanting him for years.
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Yeah.
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Sure.
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Of course.
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It's all manipulation.
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But they all do.
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No.
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But he was actually, I did say, you, you know, there are about three songs that you could play.
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And thinking that he would only play those three songs, but he started playing along to all of them.
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And then I was like, well, I think he likes this, you know.
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So else am I gonna do?
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Yeah.
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So I will say, I I had just joined.
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I had just joined the band.
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And uh how long was I in before Frank came in?
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A month, maybe.
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Yeah, not long.
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And no, I was brand new, and and and I walked in the door and kind of looked you look familiar a little bit, but I wasn't sure.
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And I've learned I've learned to to not to ask someone like or introduce myself to someone I'm not sure about because I might have met them before.
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So I was just like, hey man.
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And he just gave me this stone cold looks like, hey, but hey.
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And I was like, all right, well, there we are.
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But uh and here we are.
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Uh to to uh basically reiterate or go over what we we've already said, it the energy, the energy of of uh of the four of us uh is is really good.
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The funny thing is, is those two uh Simon and Ricky, they didn't even really know that I was bringing a sax player.
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No stopping.
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I know, I'm sorry.
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Table no one knows I played.
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No one knows I play sax player.
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Well, they didn't know that you were coming.
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I was like, oh yeah, by the way.
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Yeah.
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I know that's why we had to bring you out of your show, you know.
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Okay, yeah, I do that.
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I was like, Brian's gotta play some sacks.
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Yeah, but I really didn't tell them really that I was like, oh yeah, by the way, I had Brian come over, he's gonna play some sacks.
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I know.
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So just sit in for a couple songs.
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I know.
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And when was that?
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1970, like forever ago.
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We've been through a lot since then, actually.
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We've been on the road a couple times and yeah.
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Five gigs.
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Which that was so fun.
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Like we just played Baltimore a cut twice, you know, and we all drove together, which was super fun as a band.
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I haven't done that in a long time.
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Yeah.
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No, but back to Ricky.
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I mean, Ricky, we knew each other when we met we first met.
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And so, you know, having played a lot of bands, you know a lot of people.
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And so it's kind of fun to navigate through singing and playing and playing gigs.
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It's like, you know, it's like your friends.
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You play with probably half the people you see.
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Well, I saw you when I saw you walking up to to Rob and Mary's party the other day, I was like, Oh, yeah, you know, you know.
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And then they start texting me, and I'm like, are you guys together right now?
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Yeah.
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So it's good.
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That's how you know it works.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Each one of you guys have very strong personalities.
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You're all funny, and you all play off of each other, but is there something that each of you bring to the table?
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I don't know.
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I I bring the essence of the eel.
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I bring, I bring interplanetary from planet Zork.
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That's good.
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I like being sexy.
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Brings the spark.
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We I'm um Brian and myself, I feel like we're quite similar in that we are kind of like very uh practical and we can and we can kind of fix everything.
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So like on the blog.
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So me and Ricky mess everything up.
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So like one of the yeah, one of the things that I feel like I I'm helping the band with is the like a little bit of technology here and there and making sure all the instruments work and you know stuff like that.
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Yeah, it's huge.
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Because Simon does instrument work.
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Yeah, I repair instruments for a living.
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Yeah.
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You what?
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I repair instruments for electronics.
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Right on something musical.
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Yeah, he's my go-to.
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My job.
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I'm like the side guy.
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I'm like the you know, you're the sexy side guy.
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I know how to get around Katie.
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So Katie's doing what she does.
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And I'm there as a texture.
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Yeah.
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You know, but I'm not sleeping on her heels.
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I'm going in and out of what Simon plays underneath or on top of what Ricky plays.
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And so I think it all we're all we know how to make it so no one's getting crammed up.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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But mostly you have the most favorable touring car.
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Big vans.
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It's the way it's been for 30 years, man.
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Is that the ladders out there in the parking lot?
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Like the problem.
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That's the least favorable.
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I know he came up to the doors and I was letting him in.
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And I thought he was a guy working in the place.
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Like, there's a contractor at the front door.
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Not a contractor, just a genius.
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He's got cans coming out and they're rolling underneath the van when he's pulling his instruments out.
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Oh my god.
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Fast food rolling again.
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Okay, but I did want to say that Brian actually is so good at playing off the vocals.
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That's one thing that I've noticed with him is like I'll sing something.
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Not only does he play with the bass and the drums really well and the rhythm, he also and the guitar.
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Because Brian is multi-instrumental too, you know, and so is Ricky and Simon too.
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You know, he knows how to like when the vocals drop out, he picks up uh sort of like a Billy Holiday-ish.
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I mean, that's not a great example, but you know, she did learn from singing from horns, you know, that's why her vocals are so hornish, you know.
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Her vocals are horny.
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You know, that's a whole new term that just got developed right here.
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But it's true, he does.
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I've noticed that where he comes and picks up with the vocals.
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Well, what other instruments do you play?
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When I knew Katie and Norfolk, I played bass for a while.
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And so I mean, I played music for a long time.
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Bass, piano, guitar.
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I was a bass major for a while, so yeah, I mean, you know, but I had to go to wait for a long time.
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And I didn't play fax until about a year ago when we played at a band in Norfolk.
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Got paid some good money to get back together, so we can't do a course.
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And then so it's been a pleasure to play it with Katie and these guys because I hadn't played Fax in a Very a band that was very fluid.
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The band that was in North, it was a good band, and we did a certain thing.
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We did well, but it's nice to have this energy in this band.
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So I'm really glad where I am right now, which is fantastic.
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Very cool.
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Yeah.
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You remind me a little bit of when we did have the interview with Stanley Jordan, who's a genius, and he was talking about he was talking about with the guitar following the flow in a way that you sort of just described what you do, but he's doing it in surgeries where he's actually following the flow of the surgeons and the whole medical team while they're in the middle of a surgery.
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He's doing massages where he's in there following the the physical therapist doing the massage and all of that.
00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:48.480
But it sounds like you're doing the same thing where you're able to kind of sit back.
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He did a movie where he was following the flow of the actor's dialogue.
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Like it's just interesting hearing you describe it because it sounds very similar to what he does.
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But with Katie.
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Always always about I mean, all art and design and music, every everything is about following the flow of it, I think.
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You know, it's like, what are what are you gonna do next?
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What is your next step?
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You know?
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Well, if it should naturally flow into the next step, right?
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Yeah.
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Well, you can hear it when you guys play, that's for sure.
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You can hear all of it.
00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:22.319
So, okay, Simon, I have a question for you.
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So bass players are said to kind of be the secret glue of any band.
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Do you see yourself that way?
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Everybody's nodding, by the way.
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Everybody's nodding, but actually I don't.
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Except for Simon.
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You're just kind of the tacky tape?
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Or what?
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I'm usually the one that's dancing around.
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I always feel like bassists have the most personality.
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They really do.
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A lot of bassists have a lot of personality because they're based on the level of hype men.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I yeah, I'm definitely feel like I do a fair amount of like hyping of the band.
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And you also like on a fun a fun onesie everyone's.
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I think if given the opportunity to put on a costume, I will be in a costume.
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Oh boy, the Leo pops out.
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I've already planned like three different outfits for Halloween.
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Oh my goodness.
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I know.
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I love it.
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Yeah.
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That 15-year-old I told you guys about is also a Leo, and also probably planning her Halloween costume already.
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We should be friends.
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Yeah, you should be here.
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We should be.
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She'd love it.
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And the whole accent with the Simon name is so cute.
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I can't even stand it.
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It's killing me.
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Every time she goes Simon and then you talk, I'm like Yeah, he's from that small town in Kentucky that that sounds a lot like uh the UK.
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Well, what part of the UK are you from, by the way?
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I was born in London.
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Okay.
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I left there in about 2009.
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Um traveled the world living on beaches for a while, working as a scuba instructor and an underwater photographer.
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That's a lie.
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No.
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I was gonna say it's overall.
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I wouldn't have guessed that.
00:26:55.230 --> 00:26:55.470
Oh cool.
00:26:56.829 --> 00:26:57.710
I have a lot of stories.
00:26:57.870 --> 00:26:58.029
Yeah.
00:26:58.269 --> 00:26:58.910
Oh my goodness.
00:26:59.230 --> 00:27:02.670
We might need to interview you just a whole nother time about all of that.
00:27:03.069 --> 00:27:03.309
Sure.
00:27:03.789 --> 00:27:04.829
Like, wow.
00:27:06.110 --> 00:27:14.509
We all have pretty colorful histories, so I mean, my family was, you know, I grew up out of the country for a long time.
00:27:14.829 --> 00:27:16.829
I lived in Manila in the Philippines.
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I lived in Nairobi, Kenya, and I lived in Alice Springs, Australia.
00:27:21.390 --> 00:27:21.710
Wow.
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And then moved to the US, you know.
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So, and then how many God knows how many countries you've lived in, and Brian as well.
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I'm going to place facts in Hawaii.
00:27:33.870 --> 00:27:35.470
Lived in Thailand for a while.
00:27:35.710 --> 00:27:35.870
Yeah.
00:27:36.349 --> 00:27:42.990
So do you guys think having exposure to so many different geographies and cultures has helped your sound develop?
00:27:43.150 --> 00:27:44.269
I mean, oh yeah.
00:27:44.670 --> 00:27:47.230
I I think that it I for for me in particular.
00:27:47.390 --> 00:27:59.630
I mean, not that like I like cultural appropriating any of those sounds, but but but definitely, you know, like I think that just knowing the world helps you open up to different sounds.
00:28:00.750 --> 00:28:01.230
Yeah, exactly.
00:28:01.549 --> 00:28:04.750
As well as a it's indeluable.
00:28:04.829 --> 00:28:06.269
It's an indelible uh story.
00:28:08.670 --> 00:28:08.829
Yeah.
00:28:09.390 --> 00:28:09.630
Yeah.
00:28:10.190 --> 00:28:18.269
I learned I learned that Hawaii was Wolfman Jack, and I learned jazz in high school, and then I then I was punk rock.
00:28:18.509 --> 00:28:21.230
And how all that came into my sax plan.
00:28:21.630 --> 00:28:24.670
And then it's like, I'm gonna play that kind of band, and how's it sax written that?
00:28:24.910 --> 00:28:26.589
And that's like a crazy way to think about it.
00:28:26.910 --> 00:28:29.789
But uh it worked and I I'm happy doing it that way.
00:28:29.950 --> 00:28:30.029
Yeah.
00:28:30.349 --> 00:28:32.029
A lot of fun as far as my journey.
00:28:32.589 --> 00:28:34.990
I moved to Los Angeles for a decade.
00:28:35.150 --> 00:28:39.470
And again, I'll just overuse invaluable, but I would consider that a multicultural place.
00:28:39.710 --> 00:28:43.789
And in a lot in a large city, I'm forever grateful for having been able to do that.
00:28:44.029 --> 00:28:45.549
Big music scene too, yeah.
00:28:45.870 --> 00:28:47.309
And you're going to Europe tomorrow.
00:28:47.870 --> 00:28:49.950
And so we're gonna get another dose of the world.
00:28:50.349 --> 00:28:50.589
Right.
00:28:50.829 --> 00:28:53.950
Ricky, uh I'm not sure if the world is ready for another dose of Ricky.
00:28:55.950 --> 00:29:01.230
But Ricky has also worked as a sound guy for touring bands.
00:29:01.390 --> 00:29:02.589
Like he's very well traveled.
00:29:02.990 --> 00:29:04.269
Yeah, roadie, really.
00:29:04.589 --> 00:29:04.750
Okay.
00:29:05.390 --> 00:29:05.549
No.
00:29:05.950 --> 00:29:06.589
I mean sorry, test.
00:29:06.910 --> 00:29:09.150
Roadie's uh the modern the modern term is tech.
00:29:11.549 --> 00:29:14.910
I wish I had done sound for big for big bands, but it's just a lackey.
00:29:15.230 --> 00:29:15.710
Parliament.
00:29:15.870 --> 00:29:16.029
Yeah.
00:29:16.269 --> 00:29:16.910
Funkadelic.
00:29:17.230 --> 00:29:17.789
Parliament?
00:29:18.029 --> 00:29:18.190
Yeah.
00:29:18.670 --> 00:29:20.430
No, that's a one-off.
00:29:20.589 --> 00:29:21.710
I was a one-off, you know.
00:29:21.870 --> 00:29:24.190
It was the same.
00:29:24.269 --> 00:29:25.870
Yeah, that's that's killing.
00:29:26.670 --> 00:29:27.470
Love that.
00:29:28.509 --> 00:29:34.110
Yeah, I I did monitors for two separate days in DC for Parliament Funkadelic.
00:29:34.349 --> 00:29:37.309
And uh shows what for like, I don't know, three, four hours.
00:29:37.470 --> 00:29:38.269
There were five guys.
00:29:38.430 --> 00:29:39.789
I was a monitor engineer.
00:29:39.950 --> 00:29:50.190
Five guys who can't hear that good, crossing their mics up, and and um, I don't know any of them, but I I've got a I've got a label on my monitor console that says peanut.
00:29:50.589 --> 00:29:52.670
And I'm like, I think that's that guy.
00:29:53.150 --> 00:29:54.750
God, I was obsessed with them.
00:29:54.910 --> 00:29:55.630
When was that?
00:29:55.789 --> 00:29:57.230
I mean, I couldn't stop listening to them.
00:29:57.309 --> 00:29:58.269
It's like a two-year chime.
00:29:58.670 --> 00:30:02.110
Yeah, that was sometime in the 90s, and it was the Capitol Ballroom.
00:30:02.269 --> 00:30:04.190
And uh I loved Capitol Ballroom.
00:30:04.430 --> 00:30:06.430
Bootsy Collins was the thing.
00:30:06.589 --> 00:30:10.509
And he had a U-Haul truck just for his bass rig.
00:30:10.750 --> 00:30:14.509
And and so he had this crazy bass rig, and he would come out.
00:30:14.829 --> 00:30:16.990
You know, I guess they played four hours plus.
00:30:17.069 --> 00:30:22.110
He would come out like at the top of every hour and play for 15 minutes and then split.
00:30:22.430 --> 00:30:24.029
And so I don't know what was going on.
00:30:25.630 --> 00:30:28.910
No, I'm gonna tell y'all, in my 20s, we would go to Capitol Ballroom.
00:30:28.990 --> 00:30:30.509
We would I grew up in DC.
00:30:30.750 --> 00:30:30.829
Yeah.
00:30:31.309 --> 00:30:31.470
Yeah.
00:30:32.029 --> 00:30:33.710
I'm from California, but I grew up in DC.
00:30:34.349 --> 00:30:36.990
And so we would take like whatever cabs, I guess.
00:30:37.069 --> 00:30:38.029
It was pre-Uber.
00:30:38.110 --> 00:30:42.269
We would go down there, we'd all be dressed up, but it would be a 20-minute adventure.
00:30:42.509 --> 00:30:50.829
We'd go down there, we'd all split up, walk around, then we'd meet at the front door to go back to the cab, and everybody would have collected their own ecstasy.
00:30:51.309 --> 00:30:54.110
And then we would go back to the place where we would all take it.
00:30:54.430 --> 00:31:00.430
Capital City Ballroom was where I mean, all you had to do was kind of just dance up to somebody and boom, you had a tablet.
00:31:02.269 --> 00:31:07.950
Are we talking about like like let's see, 1995-ish or yeah.
00:31:08.190 --> 00:31:09.390
That was happening in Richmond too.
00:31:09.470 --> 00:31:14.509
I I spent every weekend for two years going out of my mind on the good stuff.
00:31:14.750 --> 00:31:15.710
And it was a great two years.
00:31:16.029 --> 00:31:17.150
Yeah, it was so great.
00:31:17.470 --> 00:31:19.950
Princess Diana died during that window.
00:31:20.110 --> 00:31:20.670
I remember that.
00:31:20.990 --> 00:31:21.150
Yeah.
00:31:21.549 --> 00:31:24.509
Because I woke up to one after one of those nights to that news.
00:31:24.589 --> 00:31:25.309
That's why I remember that.
00:31:25.710 --> 00:31:28.110
I did a lot of sound gigs for sound companies and DC.
00:31:28.509 --> 00:31:35.309
I felt like DC had this like the people that worked in the bars in the door, people were all just like thinking they were super tough guys.
00:31:35.390 --> 00:31:36.910
No, I was always like DC.
00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:37.950
DC Fluffy.
00:31:38.910 --> 00:31:39.630
DC meh.
00:31:41.470 --> 00:31:49.150
We just released a podcast with Fluffy and an artist named Mary, but Fluffy was legendary 930 club front door for 25 years.
00:31:49.470 --> 00:31:50.430
Everybody knows Fluffy.
00:31:50.589 --> 00:31:51.230
He's a roadie.
00:31:51.390 --> 00:31:52.829
He roadies for Tim Reynolds.
00:31:53.309 --> 00:31:54.750
Sweetest thing in the whole world.
00:31:55.069 --> 00:31:55.230
All right.
00:31:55.309 --> 00:31:57.150
Well, I probably read across him at some point.
00:31:57.390 --> 00:31:58.190
Yeah, oh, I'm sure.
00:31:58.589 --> 00:31:59.309
He's hard to miss.
00:32:00.190 --> 00:32:01.710
All right, we gotta jump back to Simon.
00:32:02.349 --> 00:32:04.990
Did Princess Diana trigger a question or was it separate?
00:32:05.230 --> 00:32:06.750
It was it was not really a question.
00:32:06.829 --> 00:32:14.509
It was just I used to share a house with my sister, and she went on a work trip to Jamaica, and when she came back, her goldfish was dead.
00:32:14.670 --> 00:32:17.230
And also Princess Diana.
00:32:17.710 --> 00:32:18.190
Oh, wow.
00:32:18.589 --> 00:32:20.829
He was like, what the fuck have you been doing?
00:32:23.150 --> 00:32:25.309
Killing the monarchy and my goldfish.
00:32:26.110 --> 00:32:27.549
So you have a moment too.
00:32:29.309 --> 00:32:34.670
It's like the people, I guess, one generation above all of us with their Kennedy moment.
00:32:34.750 --> 00:32:41.150
Like, where was I when Kennedy got like it's Princess Diana and Michael Jackson and Prince for me.
00:32:41.390 --> 00:32:41.630
Okay.
00:32:41.789 --> 00:32:41.950
All right.
00:32:43.309 --> 00:32:44.829
So we're gonna go first.
00:32:45.789 --> 00:32:46.670
And the towers.
00:32:46.990 --> 00:32:50.509
I was running eleven.
00:32:50.670 --> 00:32:59.470
Yeah, a thing at Glastonbury Festival when Michael Jackson died, and like by three o'clock in the afternoon, people were like, I was at Glastonbury Festival, but Michael Jackson died.
00:32:59.789 --> 00:33:00.990
He was the best comploating around.
00:33:01.230 --> 00:33:03.230
I'm like, bro, that was quick screen ready.
00:33:05.150 --> 00:33:06.349
They were on it, yeah.
00:33:06.589 --> 00:33:08.190
They were ready for that screen.
00:33:08.349 --> 00:33:10.990
Why aren't we that quick with our t-shirts?
00:33:11.789 --> 00:33:13.470
Okay, gonna go back to you, Simon.
00:33:13.549 --> 00:33:14.190
What's harder?
00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:17.309
Locking into the rhythm or balancing the vocals?
00:33:18.589 --> 00:33:20.190
I want to know what you are thinking.
00:33:20.750 --> 00:33:22.829
Balancing the vocals, I ride all over the vocal.
00:33:24.110 --> 00:33:25.870
It's all about me, you know, this time.
00:33:28.589 --> 00:33:29.150
It's interesting.
00:33:29.309 --> 00:33:36.589
So, you know, Ricky's new to the band, newish to the band, and I feel like we gel really well.
00:33:36.750 --> 00:33:42.349
I played with bands where I'm like, the drummer feels time differently from the way that I feel time.
00:33:42.750 --> 00:33:43.950
And it's really interesting.
00:33:44.430 --> 00:33:45.950
Yeah, that sounds problematic.
00:33:46.190 --> 00:33:46.750
I had a basic.
00:33:49.710 --> 00:33:51.630
And I haven't stuck with those bands.
00:33:52.110 --> 00:33:52.430
Okay.
00:33:52.829 --> 00:33:55.150
I was like, has that ever been with our own?
00:33:55.470 --> 00:33:57.630
I've had some I've had some wild and interesting.
00:33:57.950 --> 00:34:05.309
Wild and interesting and some other bands, Russian classically trained pianists who used wild timed signatures.
00:34:05.549 --> 00:34:06.910
I'm a I'm like a 4-4.
00:34:07.950 --> 00:34:21.230
So I'm I'm in my early 50s and I grew up with my parents' record collection, which was a lot of, you know, basically it started with the Beatles.
00:34:21.949 --> 00:34:22.589
No kidding.
00:34:24.349 --> 00:34:41.150
When I was, I don't know, pretty tender age, I was about 13, 14, and I remember my father, I was record shopping with my father, and he bought a double CD of like it was supposed to be 50s rock and roll, but actually there was like James Brown on there and Twin's Flames and and all of that stuff.
00:34:41.309 --> 00:34:43.469
And it was really, really interesting.
00:34:43.630 --> 00:34:51.069
I feel like it spoke to me in a way which a lot of music that was out at the time didn't.
00:34:51.549 --> 00:34:57.549
And that was like deep diving into my parents' collection and all that stuff.
00:35:01.389 --> 00:35:03.150
How I feel about music.
00:35:03.230 --> 00:35:10.670
Um music to me is a kind of life in the I'm feeling sad.
00:35:10.750 --> 00:35:12.509
I don't want to feel sad, I put on a happy record.
00:35:13.230 --> 00:35:16.829
You know, it's just like it's it's instrumental to how I feel emotionally.
00:35:17.389 --> 00:35:19.230
If you want to feel sad, put on something sad.
00:35:19.469 --> 00:35:20.190
Yeah, for sure.
00:35:20.750 --> 00:35:21.710
I can feel you on that.
00:35:21.869 --> 00:35:27.869
Like I'm I'm totally it depends how I'm feeling that I'll go to Alexa when I'm in the kitchen, which is my favorite place to be.
00:35:28.110 --> 00:35:28.589
I don't know.
00:35:28.909 --> 00:35:30.909
I have a special relationship with Alexa.
00:35:32.029 --> 00:35:35.789
I have one in my workshop, and I'm like, good morning, Alexa.
00:35:36.029 --> 00:35:36.509
Playing music.
00:35:37.309 --> 00:35:38.190
Good morning, Simon.
00:35:38.269 --> 00:35:39.469
I've got a mix for you.
00:35:39.710 --> 00:35:48.909
And she play is like rock and roll and Motown and Soul, and it's just like it's just a good thing.
00:35:49.150 --> 00:35:51.309
But do you ever have to curse at Alexa?
00:35:51.550 --> 00:35:51.949
I do.
00:35:52.269 --> 00:35:54.269
Because I curse at uh what's the what's the other one?
00:35:54.750 --> 00:35:54.909
Siri.
00:35:55.309 --> 00:35:55.550
Siri.
00:35:55.789 --> 00:35:56.190
Siri.
00:35:57.630 --> 00:35:58.510
Well they won't listen.
00:35:58.670 --> 00:36:00.110
I'm like, you motherfucker.
00:36:00.269 --> 00:36:03.710
I said, I don't like the tone of your voice.
00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:10.030
So you don't have a special relationship.
00:36:12.750 --> 00:36:13.469
Love hate really.
00:36:14.670 --> 00:36:15.469
Okay, thank you.
00:36:16.269 --> 00:36:18.269
So you need to talk nice to her.
00:36:18.510 --> 00:36:20.909
And then you can have a special relationship.
00:36:22.909 --> 00:36:23.869
I got that.
00:36:24.829 --> 00:36:26.030
All right, Ricky.
00:36:26.269 --> 00:36:29.869
They say that every drummer has a philosophy.
00:36:30.030 --> 00:36:31.550
And I asked my husband about this earlier.
00:36:31.630 --> 00:36:32.909
I was like, is that true for you?
00:36:33.230 --> 00:36:37.070
And either sort of technical or emotional when you play.
00:36:37.469 --> 00:36:39.469
Can you rephrase it in a different format?
00:36:40.590 --> 00:36:48.429
Do you have a philosophy w about your drumming that is either on the technical side or the emotional side as far as how you play?
00:36:48.829 --> 00:36:49.389
Hmm.
00:36:49.789 --> 00:36:50.269
Wow.
00:36:50.750 --> 00:36:52.110
Good one, honey.
00:36:53.230 --> 00:36:56.110
That's so so far over my head, I don't think I can.
00:36:57.789 --> 00:37:05.070
I will say that that I'm tempo challenged, and as the timekeeper in most bands, uh that's an enduring struggle.
00:37:05.230 --> 00:37:10.829
So I guess I just try to do my best, think about tempo, have a good time all the time.
00:37:11.070 --> 00:37:13.230
That was my wrote answer when you said that.
00:37:13.469 --> 00:37:14.829
Like that was the first thing popped in my head.
00:37:14.990 --> 00:37:16.110
Have a good time all the time.
00:37:16.429 --> 00:37:17.869
I think Ricky is an emotional drummer.
00:37:18.590 --> 00:37:19.309
I do I cry a lot.
00:37:19.869 --> 00:37:20.269
I see him.
00:37:20.349 --> 00:37:20.429
Yeah.
00:37:20.829 --> 00:37:22.349
I weep tears into the floor.
00:37:22.670 --> 00:37:25.230
I weep I weep, I weep from joy when it's going well.
00:37:25.389 --> 00:37:28.670
I weep from sadness when when my tempo is all fucked up.
00:37:30.429 --> 00:37:30.909
Yeah.
00:37:30.990 --> 00:37:33.309
Um, I know I see myself on video.
00:37:33.389 --> 00:37:37.389
I need to know I need to shut my mouth and stop making stupid faces.
00:37:38.190 --> 00:37:39.550
Is that am I answering your question?
00:37:40.670 --> 00:37:41.469
It doesn't matter.
00:37:41.710 --> 00:37:42.510
It doesn't even matter.
00:37:44.429 --> 00:37:45.309
So I think it's a little bit.
00:37:46.030 --> 00:37:47.630
And then that's when I'm crying again, weeping.
00:37:47.710 --> 00:37:47.869
Thank you.
00:37:48.429 --> 00:37:49.070
There was a lot of hugs.
00:37:49.230 --> 00:37:49.389
Thank you.
00:37:50.590 --> 00:37:51.789
Wait, so there's two types of tears.
00:37:51.869 --> 00:37:55.710
There's there's happy tears and then sad tears.
00:38:09.949 --> 00:38:13.150
I still do just what I choose.
00:38:13.869 --> 00:38:21.949
I'm not the promise many nothing but monster.
00:40:30.190 --> 00:40:46.030
When when Katie asked me to play a couple songs, maybe for her to think, oh, this this texture could add something to a particular one gig or a couple gigs or whatever, and then it worked out to where it was something that I could try to texture on every on every track.
00:40:46.429 --> 00:40:49.230
It wasn't like, oh, play on five tracks and then all three just kind of sit out.
00:40:49.389 --> 00:40:52.349
But it was like, okay, it was enough to sort of make it work on all of them.
00:40:52.590 --> 00:40:58.349
And maybe there are parts that you know, like Simon mentioned, maybe there are parts that could be there that I could fill in.
00:40:58.750 --> 00:41:00.590
And you know, if it doesn't work, I won't do it.
00:41:00.829 --> 00:41:01.389
I won't do that.
00:41:01.550 --> 00:41:06.030
But the whole thing is sort of getting around what Katie's songs are in her singing.
00:41:06.349 --> 00:41:10.269
And if that helps that message and helps raise up the sound, that's great.
00:41:10.349 --> 00:41:12.349
You know, I think that's um what I'll do.
00:41:13.070 --> 00:41:21.309
So I keep hearing, is it normal for a saxophonist to refer to playing with a band as color and texture?
00:41:21.630 --> 00:41:23.550
Because I'm hearing that a lot and I love it.
00:41:23.630 --> 00:41:24.269
It's really cool.
00:41:24.590 --> 00:41:25.469
I mean, you know, I played.
00:41:25.949 --> 00:41:30.510
Yeah, fact is like if you're playing in a jazz band, you gotta like a first tenor and you gotta leave this and leave that.
00:41:30.590 --> 00:41:37.070
And so a lot of times you'll have a soloist who plays on certain songs, or that's that highlights what that sounds like a song is about.
00:41:37.230 --> 00:41:42.429
And I think in a rock and roll and a jazz band, you always got every instrument's a different voice that brings something to it.
00:41:42.670 --> 00:41:44.349
It might be different, like Simon.
00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:48.909
He's the bottom, he works at the rhythm section, or it's a soloist, or it's the vocal, which is Katie.
00:41:49.150 --> 00:42:06.590
And so I think there's enough space on the four piece where that kind of there's room to make it work and know when not to come back respecting what Katie does, or maybe what you know Simon does, or make sure that the rhythm that doesn't some songs come out from the first stuff.
00:42:06.829 --> 00:42:09.389
And we always come back and let that part shine.
00:42:09.550 --> 00:42:13.630
And I think yeah, but I think it's acts as a solo instrument for four pieces, definitely.
00:42:14.110 --> 00:42:18.990
Brian and I have a really, really historic, similar style.
00:42:19.309 --> 00:42:24.990
He knows a lot of the same music, like very deeply, you know.
00:42:25.230 --> 00:42:38.429
And so we have like a really like rich knowledge of that music that he in particular, not any saxophone player could come into this band, you know.
00:42:38.750 --> 00:42:43.869
But him knowing that style is so important.
00:42:44.590 --> 00:42:45.630
It just flows right in.
00:42:45.869 --> 00:42:48.670
Yeah, it's really important that he knows that style.
00:42:48.990 --> 00:42:50.349
Well, you heard well, yeah.
00:42:50.590 --> 00:42:51.630
You heard it, you won it.
00:42:51.869 --> 00:42:54.349
And that's why I yeah, you went after him.
00:42:54.429 --> 00:42:54.909
You knew.
00:42:55.070 --> 00:42:55.949
Yeah, I love that.
00:42:56.030 --> 00:42:56.750
Yeah, O'Brien.
00:43:00.510 --> 00:43:05.789
But uh that was the like um that was a rock and roll kind of blues explosion band.
00:43:05.949 --> 00:43:06.829
So that was the same kind of thing.
00:43:06.909 --> 00:43:08.190
It was playing with a bunch of guitars and bass.
00:43:08.590 --> 00:43:09.309
And garagey.
00:43:09.469 --> 00:43:10.510
They were garage, too.
00:43:10.750 --> 00:43:13.150
So uh, you know, so that's that's how I played.
00:43:13.230 --> 00:43:15.789
I was I'm a jazz guy, but I'm rock and roll, dude.
00:43:16.429 --> 00:43:18.269
Yeah, he uses rock and roll.
00:43:19.389 --> 00:43:20.750
Yeah, jumping spider.
00:43:21.309 --> 00:43:22.110
Jumping spider.
00:43:22.269 --> 00:43:23.070
Jumping spider.
00:43:23.389 --> 00:43:24.429
I haven't fired you at some point.
00:43:24.670 --> 00:43:27.469
We've named him spider today.
00:43:27.869 --> 00:43:28.670
I like that.
00:43:28.750 --> 00:43:29.710
We're gonna have to use it.
00:43:30.110 --> 00:43:30.909
So cute.
00:43:32.110 --> 00:43:33.070
They're all cute.
00:43:33.389 --> 00:43:34.429
I know, they're all cute.
00:43:34.750 --> 00:43:35.070
So cute.
00:43:35.309 --> 00:43:38.670
I've I've had my own little things about like you and your haircut.
00:43:38.909 --> 00:43:39.550
It's so cute.
00:43:39.630 --> 00:43:43.710
And Simon and we really, right?
00:43:44.030 --> 00:43:45.630
She cuts all their hair.
00:43:45.869 --> 00:43:47.550
I mean, it's all in one, my hair.
00:43:47.869 --> 00:43:49.710
And she keeps it in the moon.
00:43:50.190 --> 00:43:50.829
She keeps it.
00:43:51.309 --> 00:43:54.190
Simon Simon's got an appointment next week.
00:43:55.550 --> 00:43:57.869
He said she keeps the hair.
00:43:59.230 --> 00:43:59.869
Yeah.
00:44:00.990 --> 00:44:03.070
It's by my bedside.
00:44:05.070 --> 00:44:06.269
That's how she keeps y'all in.
00:44:06.590 --> 00:44:08.349
I'm gonna clone them when they quit.
00:44:08.429 --> 00:44:09.150
I'm gonna clone them.
00:44:11.550 --> 00:44:13.469
No, you guys have to stay together forever.
00:44:14.349 --> 00:44:15.230
Yes, forever.
00:44:15.469 --> 00:44:18.349
And I do want to dive into this the band dynamics.
00:44:18.510 --> 00:44:20.349
We've got a bunch of questions.
00:44:20.510 --> 00:44:25.630
We've been able to see firsthand a lot of how you guys interact, but we have specific questions about this.
00:44:25.710 --> 00:44:30.590
So, first one is if there is one, who would be the perfectionist in the group?
00:44:31.070 --> 00:44:34.190
Maybe all fingers pointed to Katie.
00:44:36.269 --> 00:44:40.429
Is there anyone that totally derails derails the whole rehearsal?
00:44:40.829 --> 00:44:41.710
I did today.
00:44:44.349 --> 00:44:44.909
I can take partial.
00:44:45.150 --> 00:44:45.469
I'm sorry.
00:44:45.789 --> 00:44:49.070
Oh, yeah, probably Ricky is the main yeah, my main call for it.
00:44:49.230 --> 00:44:50.269
Yeah, I'm a big thing.
00:44:50.510 --> 00:44:55.230
No offense, but maybe now I mean he's the drummer, he's the backbone.
00:44:55.309 --> 00:44:59.710
If it if he messes up, then we're kind of like all kind of derailed, right?
00:44:59.869 --> 00:45:00.110
Right.
00:45:00.349 --> 00:45:03.710
So it's more apparent, I would say, if he does.
00:45:03.869 --> 00:45:05.070
Then it's a hard job.
00:45:05.309 --> 00:45:09.070
If even if if I do, you know, it's more apparent if he does.
00:45:09.230 --> 00:45:09.550
Yeah.
00:45:09.789 --> 00:45:12.829
I derail all the time, but maybe when he does it, it's just a lot of fun.
00:45:12.909 --> 00:45:15.309
Yeah, that's why I prefer to play guitar in bands.
00:45:16.269 --> 00:45:16.990
The hot seat.
00:45:17.230 --> 00:45:19.869
When Ricky forgets the beat and Katie forgets the words as well.
00:45:20.030 --> 00:45:22.670
It's a ruling at the same time.
00:45:24.269 --> 00:45:28.590
What's the funniest argument you guys have ever had as a band?
00:45:30.590 --> 00:45:32.110
Somebody knows something here.
00:45:34.510 --> 00:45:39.550
There's the rule that we all adhere to is you don't wear long pants on stage when you're a guy musician.
00:45:39.949 --> 00:45:41.630
Well, you don't wear short pants.
00:45:42.349 --> 00:45:43.230
I'm sorry, short pants.
00:45:43.469 --> 00:45:49.230
I was about to say what if it's called an ACDC vibe here.
00:45:49.550 --> 00:45:50.750
We're going against the grain.
00:45:50.990 --> 00:45:52.110
No long pants.
00:45:52.909 --> 00:45:54.829
Always no shorts on stage.
00:45:55.070 --> 00:45:55.869
So there is something.
00:45:58.429 --> 00:45:59.150
Oh my goodness.
00:45:59.469 --> 00:46:03.070
The great Bob Roop once said men wear pants, boys wear shorts.
00:46:03.710 --> 00:46:04.190
I've heard that.
00:46:04.269 --> 00:46:05.230
I live by that creed off.
00:46:05.869 --> 00:46:07.550
Okay, so no, but we're shorts.
00:46:07.869 --> 00:46:14.750
Well, basically, like I kind of dictate the color that we and so I'm like, I'm wearing red.
00:46:14.829 --> 00:46:16.990
So the guys will do a splash of red.
00:46:17.309 --> 00:46:17.789
Very cool.
00:46:18.510 --> 00:46:20.349
Or blue, or you know, yeah.
00:46:20.429 --> 00:46:28.190
And that's all I expect these days is a sp a splash of, you know, and in our advanced age, we have a collection of shirts we can wear because we've been playing around for a while.
00:46:28.429 --> 00:46:30.670
But there's never been a drug get along too well.
00:46:30.990 --> 00:46:32.670
Just it's really just a bit hug fest.
00:46:34.190 --> 00:46:36.750
I mean driving directions, maybe.
00:46:37.070 --> 00:46:39.789
Yeah, I can say I'm sure there's been some.
00:46:40.269 --> 00:46:41.389
Simon, what's on your phone?
00:46:41.710 --> 00:46:44.590
Are we getting there at 22 or 223?
00:46:46.030 --> 00:46:46.829
What does it matter?
00:46:48.030 --> 00:46:53.469
I feel like you two have bickered over some things in the back seat, but it's probably, you know, late-night wine and juice.
00:46:53.869 --> 00:46:54.190
Oh yeah.
00:46:54.349 --> 00:46:55.949
Um, wine and juice.
00:46:56.829 --> 00:46:57.070
Yeah.
00:46:57.789 --> 00:46:58.030
Yeah.
00:46:58.190 --> 00:47:02.349
And then, you know, I have selective hearing and I'm able to tune it out.
00:47:02.429 --> 00:47:04.429
So the subject of those I'd have no idea.
00:47:04.750 --> 00:47:07.309
I've never bickered with Ricky.
00:47:07.550 --> 00:47:08.670
The two berries.
00:47:08.990 --> 00:47:09.150
Yeah.
00:47:09.389 --> 00:47:09.789
You know what?
00:47:09.869 --> 00:47:10.670
That's because you're not going to be able to do that.
00:47:10.750 --> 00:47:14.590
I don't think Ricky ever thinks that we've have we ever bickered with me.
00:47:14.670 --> 00:47:17.869
I defer, I defer to you because I'm I'm terrified of you.
00:47:19.789 --> 00:47:20.590
Whoa.
00:47:23.309 --> 00:47:24.030
That's great.
00:47:24.269 --> 00:47:26.590
So I've stopped the I've stopped this one for 57 years.
00:47:26.670 --> 00:47:28.030
I've learned a thing or two.
00:47:28.349 --> 00:47:28.670
Oh.
00:47:28.909 --> 00:47:29.710
I mean 37.
00:47:29.949 --> 00:47:32.590
Did I say you're 37, you're 37.
00:47:33.070 --> 00:47:34.990
It's all that long pants one of the seven, right?
00:47:36.110 --> 00:47:38.110
All right, let's talk about the songwriting.
00:47:38.670 --> 00:47:42.750
Because I think you've kind of eluded, but how does that go down?
00:47:43.070 --> 00:47:44.829
I write most of the songs.
00:47:46.829 --> 00:47:47.949
And I do most of the music.
00:47:48.349 --> 00:47:49.949
He's such the pot stirrer.
00:47:50.110 --> 00:47:51.150
I can tell.
00:47:52.190 --> 00:47:52.990
Instigative.
00:47:53.469 --> 00:47:54.110
Yeah.
00:47:54.750 --> 00:47:55.710
Songwriting.
00:47:56.670 --> 00:47:58.829
Where the fuck is this all coming from, Katie?
00:48:01.949 --> 00:48:02.269
Me.
00:48:03.389 --> 00:48:04.590
So tell us about that.
00:48:04.750 --> 00:48:05.949
Tell us about your process.
00:48:06.110 --> 00:48:15.150
Like we've talked to so many musicians now, and never, I think, have would we have ever thought this until we started this podcast?
00:48:15.389 --> 00:48:27.070
But everybody universally is saying essentially that that as songwriters, they are just souls that have these antennas that are up receiving.
00:48:27.789 --> 00:48:28.030
Yeah.
00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:32.349
I mean it happens in dreams a lot, you know, when you're sleeping.
00:48:32.750 --> 00:48:34.510
And it just comes to you sometimes.
00:48:34.909 --> 00:48:44.269
Like I used to keep a notebook by my bed, you know, because I would be writing a song in my dreams, you know, and I'm like, this is the best song in the world.
00:48:44.349 --> 00:48:46.590
And then, like, of course, when you wake up, you forget.
00:48:46.750 --> 00:48:47.869
But sometimes you don't.
00:48:48.110 --> 00:48:49.630
Yeah, that it that does happen.
00:48:49.869 --> 00:48:57.949
Are you writing lyrics based on things that have happened to you in life or situations you've encountered, or where does it come from when it's conscious?
00:48:58.429 --> 00:49:04.190
I think that there's sort of like a flow of like subconsciousness, actually.
00:49:04.349 --> 00:49:13.789
I mean, when I was a little girl, I would write songs, you know, and like I didn't know what I was doing at all.
00:49:14.030 --> 00:49:19.869
But but now be doing it sort of consciously, you don't necessarily set out to write something.
00:49:20.030 --> 00:49:30.750
Something just kind of hits you, and you have that inspiration to do something and write it down, you know, immediately before it goes.
00:49:30.990 --> 00:49:34.349
And then of course it's accompanied by music.
00:49:34.590 --> 00:49:53.150
Sometimes it's music that you are like singing in your head, a little melody that you're singing in your head, and then you're like, Oh, well, let me put some words to this, you know, or just even subconsciously just kind of singing with the flow, and then the words just kind of come to you.
00:49:53.309 --> 00:49:53.710
Yeah.
00:49:53.869 --> 00:49:55.630
That soda is kind of like an antenna.
00:49:55.949 --> 00:49:56.590
An antenna.
00:49:56.750 --> 00:49:56.990
Yeah.
00:49:57.150 --> 00:49:57.309
It is.
00:49:57.710 --> 00:50:05.710
It is a little bit more like it is, but then there's a conscious effort to writing well, I think.
00:50:06.030 --> 00:50:08.429
It's like, how are these words going to flow together?
00:50:08.590 --> 00:50:11.230
How are these, you know, how is it gonna sound poetic?
00:50:11.469 --> 00:50:13.309
And how is it going to come across?
00:50:13.389 --> 00:50:15.150
And where am I gonna enunciate?
00:50:15.230 --> 00:50:16.429
Where am I gonna accent?
00:50:16.510 --> 00:50:18.990
And what message is gonna come through?
00:50:19.230 --> 00:50:21.789
And how are people gonna feel about it?
00:50:21.949 --> 00:50:23.389
All of that's at play.
00:50:23.630 --> 00:50:34.750
And it's just all a big jumble in your mind about like it you just do it intuitively, you don't consciously like I'm going to do this, you know.
00:50:34.990 --> 00:50:35.550
I'm going to write.
00:50:36.190 --> 00:50:36.429
Right.
00:50:36.590 --> 00:50:36.909
Yeah.
00:50:37.150 --> 00:50:42.909
It's just like never have I like sat down and be like, I'm gonna write a song.
00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:45.869
No, it's like, oh, I have an idea, you know.
00:50:46.190 --> 00:50:47.550
So you do have the antenna.
00:50:47.789 --> 00:50:48.670
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:49.070 --> 00:50:50.269
Because that doesn't happen to me.
00:50:51.309 --> 00:50:53.150
That does not happen to me either.
00:50:53.789 --> 00:50:55.150
I don't have the antennas.
00:50:55.230 --> 00:50:56.349
I got ear at the end of the day.
00:50:57.070 --> 00:50:59.789
Sometimes they come quick and sometimes they take work.
00:51:00.190 --> 00:51:00.909
Yeah, I know.
00:51:00.990 --> 00:51:05.630
Some songs were just like flow right out of you, and then sometimes, yeah.
00:51:05.869 --> 00:51:10.829
It's like, yeah, years later, you're like, wait, what about those words that I wrote?
00:51:11.070 --> 00:51:18.030
I've got books and stacks of papers of old lyrics and songs that haven't been written.
00:51:18.349 --> 00:51:20.829
But hey, I can always tap into those.
00:51:21.070 --> 00:51:41.710
And parts of that might fit with what I'm thinking right now, which is beautiful because we were talking about the evolution of of just your life and how things that happened to you when you were younger or things that are going on in you when you were younger might actually pertain to what's happening right now.
00:51:41.949 --> 00:51:46.110
Let's go back and look at that and see how it pertains to right now, you know.
00:51:46.349 --> 00:51:51.070
And yeah, a lot of times it works very well because you are the same person.
00:51:51.309 --> 00:51:56.429
Yeah, there's an advantage to years on this in writing.
00:51:56.670 --> 00:52:00.269
And you bring a new perspective to it after so many years.
00:52:00.349 --> 00:52:00.670
Yeah.
00:52:00.990 --> 00:52:03.230
Does anybody else write any of the songs?
00:52:04.269 --> 00:52:05.389
Well, no.
00:52:06.269 --> 00:52:07.309
Not really in a balance.
00:52:07.869 --> 00:52:09.789
I'm like, well, they all live each other.
00:52:10.269 --> 00:52:11.710
I encourage, not really.
00:52:12.429 --> 00:52:13.710
I encourage you new.
00:52:13.789 --> 00:52:14.429
Maybe Simon has.
00:52:15.469 --> 00:52:16.909
They all write their parts.
00:52:17.070 --> 00:52:21.309
Let's not say that they don't, you know, write because they all write their parents.
00:52:21.550 --> 00:52:25.630
I never dictate what they write as far as their parts.
00:52:26.030 --> 00:52:27.630
But if we get it wrong, she beats us.
00:52:28.829 --> 00:52:29.630
And cuts them out.
00:52:31.309 --> 00:52:31.630
Yeah.
00:52:32.190 --> 00:52:33.789
And then gives them a hug.
00:52:35.630 --> 00:52:36.829
And makes them dinner.
00:52:38.030 --> 00:52:38.829
So cut it wrong.
00:52:39.630 --> 00:52:40.429
They make me out.
00:52:40.829 --> 00:52:44.190
Ricky and I were just Ricky and I were just talking about songwriting.
00:52:44.349 --> 00:52:47.550
And I feel like um for me, I don't know.
00:52:47.789 --> 00:52:50.030
But you were gonna write a song a week, remember?
00:52:50.750 --> 00:52:58.190
So we have been doing a thing, a Christmas performance where we're not allowed to write use um copyrighted material.
00:52:58.349 --> 00:53:00.510
So we have been writing Christmas songs.
00:53:00.829 --> 00:53:01.309
Oh yeah.
00:53:01.869 --> 00:53:02.190
You did.
00:53:02.590 --> 00:53:05.550
And so I I threw one of those into the into the pot one year.
00:53:06.030 --> 00:53:13.070
Santa Claus is coming, is what it I was like, can we change the title?
00:53:14.829 --> 00:53:15.789
Once again, completely.
00:53:18.590 --> 00:53:19.869
It went dark immediately.
00:53:20.190 --> 00:53:22.510
We may want to this is a kid friendly.
00:53:24.670 --> 00:53:26.110
Wait, hold on, pause.
00:53:26.269 --> 00:53:27.710
Simon, Simon.
00:53:28.190 --> 00:53:32.190
Did it really not occur to you until it was pointed out that that was a big thing?
00:53:32.349 --> 00:53:34.349
Oh no, it's completely intentional.
00:53:34.670 --> 00:53:37.070
It was just not surprised.
00:53:37.789 --> 00:53:40.909
But he didn't present it as it was intentional.
00:53:41.150 --> 00:53:43.630
I was just like, but Santa Claus is coming.
00:53:43.949 --> 00:53:45.789
How would you spell coming as a good?
00:53:46.990 --> 00:53:50.030
And that song I sat down with a guitar to write, right, right.
00:53:51.070 --> 00:53:53.630
And I was like, right, let's write it, let's write it, let's write a Christmas song.
00:53:53.789 --> 00:53:56.510
So here's some chords, here's some words that fit, boom, boom, boom.
00:53:56.590 --> 00:53:56.670
Yeah.
00:53:56.990 --> 00:54:02.030
And then Katie, and then Katie was like, let me, that's kind of good.
00:54:02.349 --> 00:54:03.150
That's rubbish.
00:54:03.630 --> 00:54:04.750
I didn't see it was rubbish.
00:54:05.070 --> 00:54:05.469
No, you did.
00:54:05.550 --> 00:54:06.909
You were very you're very kind.
00:54:07.550 --> 00:54:08.750
Fanatic this a bit.
00:54:08.990 --> 00:54:09.869
You heard rubbish.
00:54:10.110 --> 00:54:10.349
Yeah.
00:54:10.510 --> 00:54:11.630
Of course.
00:54:12.110 --> 00:54:21.150
And so I feel like if I if I write a song, I can do that with a guitar and a notepad and just like make it under pressure, go make a song.
00:54:21.630 --> 00:54:22.110
Boom.
00:54:22.429 --> 00:54:31.630
But I think that the songs that I've written, which I am most proud of, are usually the ones that always come with heartache.
00:54:31.869 --> 00:54:37.710
And they're usually written while I'm horizontal in bed and right about to fall asleep.
00:54:38.429 --> 00:54:38.590
Yeah.
00:54:38.990 --> 00:54:39.710
The dream state.
00:54:39.869 --> 00:54:39.949
Yeah.
00:54:40.110 --> 00:54:41.389
That's what the dream state is.
00:54:41.630 --> 00:54:43.869
You're in that little floaty place and I'm like, boom.
00:54:44.110 --> 00:54:48.030
And and when I was a little kid, like almost every night in my head.
00:54:48.510 --> 00:54:48.750
Yeah.
00:54:48.829 --> 00:54:49.070
Mm-hmm.
00:54:49.469 --> 00:54:57.469
I think music can come that way too, because like uh we have songs where we do, I think you can almost think about being somewhere else.
00:54:57.630 --> 00:55:04.349
Like we do a song where I'm like, I imagine myself playing this music on the beach at a party from the 50s.
00:55:04.590 --> 00:55:07.070
And all of a sudden that's what kind of drives the sound I'm gonna play.
00:55:07.389 --> 00:55:08.750
That's what kind of makes how I'm gonna make this work.
00:55:10.110 --> 00:55:11.630
There's wicky stuff too.
00:55:12.429 --> 00:55:13.949
The visuals are always helpful.
00:55:14.510 --> 00:55:22.750
Thanks for here or but I mean uh that helps too is to think about bringing back memory before AI or whatever you want to think about.
00:55:22.909 --> 00:55:25.070
You think about these places you want to be where you would play.
00:55:25.469 --> 00:55:26.429
Kind of a dream thing.
00:55:26.670 --> 00:55:28.349
And that kind of drives your sound.
00:55:29.230 --> 00:55:30.429
It comes from an analog sense.
00:55:30.590 --> 00:55:33.949
Like we're all analog types, and so we're like, hey man, that's how we're gonna do that.
00:55:34.030 --> 00:55:42.030
And so I think it's a cool way to sort of color the music over lyrics to a song, and that's kind of how you get the push for how it's gonna sound.
00:55:42.670 --> 00:55:45.309
The imagery of a song is really important.
00:55:45.550 --> 00:55:47.710
You I think you're describing that a little bit.
00:55:47.949 --> 00:56:01.309
Is that like I mean, you know, you think of vampire cowboy or something, and you you can really picture this guy who's like coming in your room, but he's kind of a quirky looking, you know, cre character in broken jukebox.
00:56:01.389 --> 00:56:07.070
So you imagine some somebody who's got a trashy house with a broken jukebox and the sink's too small.
00:56:07.710 --> 00:56:10.349
I'm a visual person anyway, you know.
00:56:10.590 --> 00:56:17.469
So I think that imagery in words is really important to tell a story.
00:56:17.710 --> 00:56:21.150
So you can tell a really good story if you can imagine it and see it.
00:56:21.389 --> 00:56:28.190
When I took creative writing, that is the one thing I had the best teacher that he said that I wrote with heart.
00:56:28.429 --> 00:56:29.949
I had to learn to write with visuals.
00:56:30.269 --> 00:56:30.590
Yeah.
00:56:30.670 --> 00:56:30.829
Yeah.
00:56:31.070 --> 00:56:34.590
So that people can see it because they can't feel necessarily how you feel.
00:56:35.070 --> 00:56:37.469
So you need to paint it with a visual to make them feel.
00:56:37.869 --> 00:56:38.990
That's exactly what you're saying.
00:56:39.309 --> 00:56:40.030
It is visual.
00:56:40.349 --> 00:56:42.909
I I'm a visual designer too, and so we see it in a weird way.
00:56:44.670 --> 00:56:45.230
The way you talk.
00:56:45.550 --> 00:56:50.670
I think it definitely helps being a visual person to pull that into music.
00:56:50.829 --> 00:56:57.630
I think that really I think it elevates the music a lot instead of like whining, wham wham, about my heart, you know, or whatever.
00:56:57.710 --> 00:56:58.269
You know what I mean?
00:56:58.750 --> 00:56:59.710
No, not yeah.
00:57:00.110 --> 00:57:00.990
But you know what I mean.
00:57:01.150 --> 00:57:02.349
Like, you know, whiner.
00:57:08.269 --> 00:57:15.949
I wasn't it's I was I mean, try a metaphor or metaphyd.
00:57:16.269 --> 00:57:17.230
Yeah, or simile.
00:57:17.869 --> 00:57:18.190
Okay.
00:57:18.670 --> 00:57:20.110
I'm gonna pull it together here.
00:57:20.349 --> 00:57:25.550
I want to shift into your live shows because that seems to be a huge part of the identity of this band.
00:57:26.110 --> 00:57:30.829
What song best represents the lonely teardrops live right now?
00:57:31.070 --> 00:57:33.309
Oh not Bumblebee.
00:57:34.590 --> 00:57:35.550
I love Bumblebee.
00:57:37.309 --> 00:57:38.110
It's becoming its own.
00:57:38.670 --> 00:57:39.230
It is.
00:57:39.469 --> 00:57:40.349
It is so good.
00:57:40.510 --> 00:57:41.070
It's so good.
00:57:41.309 --> 00:57:42.190
That's crazy.
00:57:42.510 --> 00:57:50.429
We play a variety of originals and covers, but we play such obscure covers that people don't realize that they're actually covers.
00:57:50.670 --> 00:57:52.349
They think there actually are songs.
00:57:52.750 --> 00:57:58.909
Some people in the know will definitely know that they're covers and they enjoy it.
00:57:59.230 --> 00:58:00.510
What song do you guys think?
00:58:00.829 --> 00:58:02.110
Bumblebee is so fun.
00:58:02.510 --> 00:58:03.630
So Bumblebee is so fun.
00:58:03.869 --> 00:58:04.990
Bumblebee is a new one, which we have.
00:58:05.469 --> 00:58:06.349
Slaverne Baker.
00:58:06.750 --> 00:58:08.510
Which we have started doing.
00:58:08.829 --> 00:58:19.309
And the first time we played it out, we we hit upon a formula that we couldn't have imagined for our shop.
00:58:20.110 --> 00:58:23.070
Essentially, we messed up.
00:58:23.309 --> 00:58:23.869
Yeah.
00:58:24.349 --> 00:58:26.429
But we messed up in the most beautiful way.
00:58:26.829 --> 00:58:29.469
Katie had a blank for the words.
00:58:29.710 --> 00:58:32.030
And we all just like cut out, just like that.
00:58:32.269 --> 00:58:34.269
And Katie was lost in thought.
00:58:34.590 --> 00:58:35.150
Yeah, and I forgot.
00:58:35.630 --> 00:58:36.990
Because the song is called Bumblebee.
00:58:37.150 --> 00:58:46.269
I was like, And it was like, and it was like, you could have counted one, two, three, four, one, one, two, three.
00:58:46.429 --> 00:58:48.110
And then Katie was like, I've got it.
00:58:48.349 --> 00:58:55.309
And the way that the song The timing was the way that the timing works, it starts off with a lyric, and then we all come in.
00:58:55.550 --> 00:58:57.389
And so Katie was lost in thought.
00:58:57.469 --> 00:58:59.550
I was being a bee into the microphone.
00:58:59.789 --> 00:59:03.469
And there, and then she's like, whatever the lyric is.
00:59:03.949 --> 00:59:04.510
And then we all pick up.
00:59:04.829 --> 00:59:05.469
That's how I sing.
00:59:06.670 --> 00:59:06.990
Exactly.
00:59:07.309 --> 00:59:09.070
And it was it was a beautiful moment.
00:59:09.230 --> 00:59:11.630
We've now incorporated that into the song.
00:59:11.789 --> 00:59:12.990
We have a pause in the song.
00:59:13.150 --> 00:59:17.309
So we we we like to like entertain and bring in a little bit of comedy.
00:59:17.710 --> 00:59:20.750
And then you just, you know, say, hey, you know what's going on?
00:59:21.309 --> 00:59:21.469
Yeah.
00:59:21.869 --> 00:59:26.829
And and lost in thought is a it's a really nice way of saying couldn't remember the words.
00:59:28.190 --> 00:59:30.829
But but that provided us this pregnant pause.
00:59:32.590 --> 00:59:33.710
Now is intentional.
00:59:33.869 --> 00:59:34.110
Yeah.
00:59:34.269 --> 00:59:43.230
And and so we're encouraging to like call out somebody she sees in the audience or or say something live, you know, like, hey, you with the stupid haircut, or whatever.
00:59:43.389 --> 00:59:43.550
Yeah.
00:59:43.869 --> 00:59:46.670
Well, my strategy is Katie's body language.
00:59:46.829 --> 00:59:49.789
If she steps away from the microphone, that means you stop singing.
00:59:49.949 --> 00:59:51.309
Something's gonna stop real soon.
00:59:52.429 --> 00:59:54.510
I look at her body language, I'm like, I think I'm gonna stop from there.
00:59:54.590 --> 00:59:56.349
So don't play again.
00:59:56.510 --> 00:59:57.869
So I if I can see her.
00:59:58.030 --> 00:59:59.949
Obviously, if on stage, it's a different dynamic.
01:00:00.030 --> 01:00:01.070
You know, you're not a little tight in room.
01:00:01.150 --> 01:00:02.750
It's like she's on stage the other part of the front.
01:00:02.829 --> 01:00:06.510
I gotta look at her and see what she's gonna do before we learn the song all the way.
01:00:06.750 --> 01:00:11.550
I too rely on her body language to keep my my uh cell phone tempo right now.
01:00:11.789 --> 01:00:15.869
We we all have a lot of body language on stage, I would say.
01:00:16.190 --> 01:00:18.909
I was gonna say, does that bleed into your personal life?
01:00:19.230 --> 01:00:26.429
I mean I keep hearing how each one of you watch her or you watch him or you watch her.
01:00:26.590 --> 01:00:28.030
Does that bleed into your personal life?
01:00:28.429 --> 01:00:29.869
Yeah, Simon's watching me too much, you know.
01:00:31.630 --> 01:00:34.110
Yes, I've been driving past their houses every night.
01:00:34.429 --> 01:00:35.469
It's kind of weird.
01:00:36.190 --> 01:00:38.990
I I introduced Casey as my buck and roll wife.
01:00:47.150 --> 01:00:47.469
Love it.
01:00:47.710 --> 01:00:51.389
Simon, that you're so tuned in that you were able to improvise in that moment.
01:00:51.630 --> 01:00:53.309
Yeah, I mean, that's that's beautiful.
01:00:53.710 --> 01:00:55.070
That's gotta give you so much security.
01:00:55.469 --> 01:00:59.070
When Brian needs cashews in the backseat, I'm just go like this.
01:01:00.429 --> 01:01:01.309
Katie is the best cashews.
01:01:02.030 --> 01:01:04.030
I've only done it and eat it without even thinking about it.
01:01:04.990 --> 01:01:08.110
He was like, Yes, I did, I did want those.
01:01:09.150 --> 01:01:12.990
I've only been on two, I think two road shows with you guys, but it's not that many.
01:01:13.150 --> 01:01:16.750
Katie is the best road mom ever and takes care of us very well.
01:01:17.150 --> 01:01:20.110
I don't do anything, I just change in the car.
01:01:20.590 --> 01:01:21.150
Snacks.
01:01:21.309 --> 01:01:23.230
We all know when Katie's like snacks.
01:01:23.789 --> 01:01:24.750
Clover, I got a pee.
01:01:24.990 --> 01:01:26.110
She's gonna get snacked at the same time.
01:01:26.349 --> 01:01:26.909
Yeah, okay.
01:01:29.309 --> 01:01:30.750
And then I share the snacks.
01:01:30.829 --> 01:01:31.150
Yeah.
01:01:31.710 --> 01:01:33.070
She does change when she's in the car.
01:01:33.550 --> 01:01:34.429
I do intolerable.
01:01:34.750 --> 01:01:36.429
I mean, you know, intolerable.
01:01:37.230 --> 01:01:38.909
Gotta show up ready to go.
01:01:39.710 --> 01:01:39.869
Okay.
01:01:41.070 --> 01:01:44.269
Online, online, over and over and over and over.
01:01:44.349 --> 01:01:48.110
You guys are described as having stop and shake dance parties.
01:01:48.750 --> 01:01:53.469
Was that energy always the goal, or did audiences kind of go there?
01:01:53.869 --> 01:01:57.869
Yeah, that was based on experience, live shows, yeah.
01:01:58.190 --> 01:01:58.829
It just happened.
01:01:59.550 --> 01:02:02.909
That term came from actual experience, yeah.
01:02:03.309 --> 01:02:07.230
How did you feel as an artist when you started to see that happening?
01:02:07.869 --> 01:02:09.550
Oh, fun as shit, man.
01:02:09.630 --> 01:02:11.710
It's so much fun when people dance.
01:02:11.789 --> 01:02:12.510
I love it.
01:02:12.670 --> 01:02:13.949
That's what the goal is.
01:02:15.550 --> 01:02:19.710
Yeah, it's always the goal to make people have fun, you know.
01:02:20.030 --> 01:02:24.030
Well, there's always you always go to a shit and go, All right, everybody, we're not playing until everybody gets it close to the stage.
01:02:24.110 --> 01:02:25.230
Well, you'd be able to deliver.
01:02:25.309 --> 01:02:36.269
You need to be able to make sure that you when they get up there, first of all, they come to the show when you say, I want to get you guys up to dance, and they don't know they want to dance, but they do want to dance, and you deliver, that's when the magic starts.
01:02:37.150 --> 01:02:39.710
We start dancing, so it makes them dance a little bit.
01:02:39.869 --> 01:02:44.590
You know, you can take a leaf out of James Brown's book and just tell everybody to get up for six minutes.
01:02:44.829 --> 01:02:46.110
Get up, I don't know.
01:02:46.429 --> 01:02:47.309
That's true.
01:02:47.869 --> 01:02:53.869
Have you ever had a total disaster moment on stage that you're okay talking about now?
01:02:54.190 --> 01:02:58.030
There have been many disasters with me personally.
01:02:58.349 --> 01:03:02.110
I don't feel like there's been any big disasters with the current lineup.
01:03:02.510 --> 01:03:03.150
We're a little too soon.
01:03:04.110 --> 01:03:05.070
I think for total disasters.
01:03:06.269 --> 01:03:06.750
I like that.
01:03:07.550 --> 01:03:11.150
Back in the day, I probably wasn't as wise as I am now.
01:03:11.550 --> 01:03:13.309
That's not that I'm as wise.
01:03:14.429 --> 01:03:15.309
But it's true.
01:03:17.070 --> 01:03:17.869
And marinated.
01:03:18.110 --> 01:03:18.269
Yeah.
01:03:18.590 --> 01:03:19.150
Marinated.
01:03:20.990 --> 01:03:22.190
Ready to get on the grill.
01:03:22.750 --> 01:03:24.110
The longer you play, the more you can wing it.
01:03:24.190 --> 01:03:24.670
You can see it.
01:03:24.829 --> 01:03:24.990
Yeah.
01:03:25.389 --> 01:03:31.630
But you know, you know, if there's a mistake, you can get over it and no one notices it because you know how to cover it up.
01:03:31.789 --> 01:03:32.670
Because you've done it for so much.
01:03:32.750 --> 01:03:35.710
I mean, there can be blatant problems, but like no one cares.
01:03:35.869 --> 01:03:36.510
No one can see it.
01:03:36.750 --> 01:03:41.150
But if you if you're able to be creative out of that, that's what makes you build a rock rock and roll through the night.
01:03:41.389 --> 01:03:43.710
Golden rule, don't make a face when you fucking.
01:03:44.030 --> 01:03:44.110
Yeah.
01:03:44.750 --> 01:03:45.469
Don't apologize.
01:03:45.789 --> 01:03:46.429
Never apologize.
01:03:46.750 --> 01:03:47.630
Never apologize.
01:03:48.429 --> 01:03:54.590
When I used to make mistakes on stage, I would take it personally and it would affect me for the next couple of songs.
01:03:54.909 --> 01:03:58.190
And now I'm just like, you have to power through.
01:03:58.990 --> 01:03:59.710
I'm over it.
01:04:00.269 --> 01:04:00.909
Moment it's happened.
01:04:01.230 --> 01:04:04.909
A lot of people say, Aren't you gonna trip over those chords and stuff?
01:04:04.990 --> 01:04:06.750
And I'm like, nah, I got it.
01:04:07.070 --> 01:04:13.070
Like, you know, there's cords all over carpets and stuff, and go-go boots at play.
01:04:13.150 --> 01:04:13.469
Oh, yeah.
01:04:13.550 --> 01:04:15.949
You know, so Katie's gotten really good with the takedown.
01:04:17.309 --> 01:04:18.670
Nah, I'm good.
01:04:18.990 --> 01:04:32.110
So you guys have all really collectively been in the music scene, not together necessarily, but in the music scene long enough to see a big evolution over the last, let's say, 20, 25 years.
01:04:32.349 --> 01:04:36.190
Can you speak to kind of how you've seen things change?
01:04:36.590 --> 01:04:38.269
Yeah, there's a huge change.
01:04:38.510 --> 01:04:43.789
When I first started, it was like in the 90s, and there was a lot of different music going on there.
01:04:43.869 --> 01:04:46.990
But then I kind of dove into the deep end of punk rock.
01:04:47.230 --> 01:04:50.349
So that's kind of a whole different direction.
01:04:50.590 --> 01:04:56.429
And then coming out of that, you kind of realize that there's like all this whole other world of music.
01:04:56.670 --> 01:05:00.590
And now there's just so many good bands out there.
01:05:00.750 --> 01:05:05.949
There's just so many people making music more than I remember.
01:05:06.349 --> 01:05:10.190
When we were younger, it was just a handful of really good people, I feel like.
01:05:10.429 --> 01:05:11.630
Now there's like a lot.
01:05:11.789 --> 01:05:20.990
I I don't know what it is, technology, or whether it's people have access to social media or whatever to, you know, connect and be really good.
01:05:21.389 --> 01:05:28.590
But man, I know Richmond alone has just tons of good bands in different genres and different people.
01:05:28.750 --> 01:05:31.869
It's very diverse, and I love that about it.
01:05:32.030 --> 01:05:32.590
I love it.
01:05:32.909 --> 01:05:34.190
That's a really good point.
01:05:34.349 --> 01:05:37.869
That's not something I've thought of because I'm not directly in it.
01:05:38.110 --> 01:05:45.469
But just from being a human out in the world in the 90s and in the early 2000s, I really didn't know that many people.
01:05:45.710 --> 01:05:46.030
Yeah.
01:05:46.269 --> 01:05:48.750
And now, I mean, you know, you're right.
01:05:49.150 --> 01:05:53.150
Yeah, there was just a handful of people, and you had to really look for the gig, you know.
01:05:53.230 --> 01:05:56.750
Like you really had to like find out what's going on, you know.
01:05:56.909 --> 01:05:58.349
Hey, call somebody up.
01:05:58.510 --> 01:05:59.869
Hey, what's going on tonight?
01:06:00.030 --> 01:06:02.909
Now you can find out anywhere, right?
01:06:03.309 --> 01:06:05.469
So yeah, music has changed a lot.
01:06:06.030 --> 01:06:12.429
Even though this sounds like a well-worn thing that's been said a million times, but the cyclical nature of music is interesting to me.
01:06:12.670 --> 01:06:19.869
And then how the kids are coming back around to listening to, you know, you see a 12-year-old with a lead zeppelin shirt on.
01:06:20.030 --> 01:06:20.750
It's pretty interesting.
01:06:20.990 --> 01:06:25.630
I don't know what how that affects the scene really, but in a cultural way, that's kind of interesting.
01:06:25.789 --> 01:06:25.949
Trevor Burrus, Jr.
01:06:26.190 --> 01:06:30.190
When we grew up, you know, it was mostly, you know, that was your social thing, was to go to a bar.
01:06:30.269 --> 01:06:33.150
And you know, older people say, ah, that's how it was back in the day.
01:06:33.309 --> 01:06:34.030
And that's what it was.
01:06:34.190 --> 01:06:37.309
So maybe you didn't sit and practice a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot in your room.
01:06:37.630 --> 01:06:40.829
Half the practice was on stage because you could get those gigs down the street.
01:06:41.070 --> 01:06:44.030
So you kind of grew up on stage and you developed your style.
01:06:44.110 --> 01:06:46.909
And so it's interesting where there is a lot of good music coming out.
01:06:47.150 --> 01:06:48.429
And you can find it faster on the internet.
01:06:48.670 --> 01:06:52.269
You can find it faster with any kind of new no social social way to do it.
01:06:52.429 --> 01:06:53.630
But it was different.
01:06:54.110 --> 01:06:55.150
That's all you can say.
01:06:55.630 --> 01:06:57.230
The whole message was still getting your sound out.
01:06:57.630 --> 01:06:59.230
It's just a different way, you know, I think.
01:06:59.389 --> 01:07:03.309
And I think younger kids have a lot more ways to access other sounds.
01:07:03.630 --> 01:07:07.309
And they can incorporate those and they can record something much quicker and faster.
01:07:07.550 --> 01:07:10.429
But you know, but yeah, getting gigs and getting clubs.
01:07:10.670 --> 01:07:17.230
It's not as easy as it used to be as far as spaces, but now there's house parties and there's all kinds of spaces just to make sound, just to make noise, you know.
01:07:17.710 --> 01:07:19.150
There is this there's this product.
01:07:19.309 --> 01:07:21.949
I I I went out on on my Facebook about it.
01:07:22.190 --> 01:07:30.429
Well, there's this I keep seeing this commercial and this girl's like All you have to do is go bum bum bum bum bum bum bum and And it's a kick-ass thing.
01:07:30.510 --> 01:07:33.150
And I'm like, oh that sucks.
01:07:33.630 --> 01:07:33.949
Terrible.
01:07:34.510 --> 01:07:37.070
And I'm not trying to be get off my lawn, but that does suck.
01:07:37.309 --> 01:07:41.150
Well, here's the thing about that is you gotta be bad before you're good.
01:07:41.469 --> 01:07:43.309
You got to you gotta make those mistakes.
01:07:43.389 --> 01:07:48.429
You have you have to, just like in anything in life, you've got to like suffer through it.
01:07:48.670 --> 01:07:50.110
You gotta learn for yourself.
01:07:50.269 --> 01:07:50.429
Okay.
01:07:50.829 --> 01:07:53.469
Learn in order for it to stick, you know.
01:07:53.869 --> 01:08:02.269
Or conversely, if I am playing like if I'm the bad guy on this idea, it's just let people make music in any way they can.
01:08:02.590 --> 01:08:04.110
That would be the altruistic way.
01:08:04.269 --> 01:08:04.429
Right.
01:08:06.269 --> 01:08:08.990
You know, you're not gonna get any unique voices that way.
01:08:09.150 --> 01:08:13.789
Look at Lou Reed, look at Billy Holiday, look at Jonathan Richmond from Modern Lovers.
01:08:14.110 --> 01:08:21.630
You wouldn't get those unique voices if you were depending on AI to fix it for you.
01:08:22.029 --> 01:08:22.109
Right.
01:08:22.429 --> 01:08:22.590
Yeah.
01:08:23.389 --> 01:08:27.309
And those voices are beautiful to me because they're human and people, you know.
01:08:28.029 --> 01:08:32.349
Kids have access to more tools these days to make music.
01:08:32.510 --> 01:08:33.869
It's much more accessible.
01:08:35.949 --> 01:08:40.429
And they also have access that's ever been recorded.
01:08:40.750 --> 01:08:42.829
You know, when we grew up, we were buying records.
01:08:44.109 --> 01:08:47.389
We were making mix for our friends and that and listening to the radio.
01:08:47.630 --> 01:08:48.989
And that's how we discovered new music.
01:08:49.630 --> 01:08:56.349
You know, it's these days, you know, it's so easy to go on YouTube or any other streaming service and go down a rabbit hole, dive on it.
01:08:56.590 --> 01:08:59.069
Just do a deep dive on whatever you want, and it's all right there.
01:09:00.590 --> 01:09:03.710
At the same time, though, if you really want to do what you want to do, you gotta stick with it.
01:09:04.429 --> 01:09:05.869
You gotta go see those people.
01:09:05.949 --> 01:09:08.349
You gotta play with those people, you gotta make those mistakes like Kate said.
01:09:09.389 --> 01:09:14.510
You gotta say, I'm gonna try this for a while, I'm gonna work as hard as I can give me a wrong one and see if it's gonna give me a wrong one to be.
01:09:14.750 --> 01:09:15.309
Especially if it's gonna be a good one.
01:09:15.469 --> 01:09:16.429
You gotta say flat for a while.
01:09:18.189 --> 01:09:19.149
I think flat for a while.
01:09:20.269 --> 01:09:20.909
There it is.
01:09:21.469 --> 01:09:22.829
I know, I know.
01:09:23.309 --> 01:09:23.869
Beautiful.
01:09:29.550 --> 01:09:31.389
I was in the wrong I was in the wrong register.
01:09:31.550 --> 01:09:32.029
That was good.
01:09:32.429 --> 01:09:33.149
Oh, there it is.
01:09:35.309 --> 01:09:36.349
Nailed a helmet.
01:09:37.389 --> 01:09:39.949
But be long.
01:09:40.590 --> 01:09:41.389
I still have a bit of money.
01:09:42.590 --> 01:09:46.269
No, I literally want to be on that show, nailed it with the bad big.
01:09:46.909 --> 01:09:47.949
We don't have to wear that.
01:09:48.429 --> 01:09:50.669
I want each one of you to respond to this.
01:09:50.750 --> 01:09:54.189
What keeps you motivated to keep creating and doing music?
01:09:54.349 --> 01:09:57.789
Is it the crowd or is it something inside of you?
01:09:58.189 --> 01:09:59.229
Oh, that's a great question.
01:09:59.389 --> 01:10:00.189
Holy shit.
01:10:01.229 --> 01:10:08.109
I mean, uh you always want to do things to please other people in a certain especially if you're an artist, that return is what gives you confidence.
01:10:08.269 --> 01:10:10.189
It gives you like, oh my god, I can do it, I can do that.
01:10:10.269 --> 01:10:10.829
I'm gonna do something.
01:10:10.989 --> 01:10:11.549
And I can do better.
01:10:13.229 --> 01:10:14.669
It's just I love music.
01:10:14.909 --> 01:10:18.829
I mean, you know, there's always the oh, you know, rock and roll save my life.
01:10:19.229 --> 01:10:22.750
But once again, we've all traveled a lot, so you have all kinds of sounds and music.
01:10:23.069 --> 01:10:26.509
Like I said, jazz and blues and world music, anything else.
01:10:26.829 --> 01:10:28.750
Those always tap on different moods you have.
01:10:28.989 --> 01:10:32.829
And then it might be for right now, that mood is rock and roll, and that's RAM right now with that.
01:10:32.909 --> 01:10:38.829
And I've played jazz, I played blues and then when you have other like people you play with, that just boosts it up in a huge way.
01:10:38.909 --> 01:10:43.789
And that's just a huge punch right now for me, is to play the music we we're doing and to be able to play it.
01:10:43.869 --> 01:10:46.029
And 'cause every time you play it, it's different.
01:10:46.349 --> 01:10:47.389
It's always a challenge.
01:10:47.549 --> 01:10:50.029
You're in the groove, you're just doing a little bit differently.
01:10:50.269 --> 01:10:54.429
And every time you do that, it's exciting for you and also for other people you might play for.
01:10:54.589 --> 01:10:54.829
You know?
01:10:55.149 --> 01:10:56.989
That's pretty it's pretty cool to be able to do that.
01:10:57.469 --> 01:10:58.750
That's a great answer.
01:10:59.229 --> 01:10:59.629
Damn.
01:11:00.029 --> 01:11:00.349
Simon.
01:11:00.750 --> 01:11:01.469
I love you guys.
01:11:01.709 --> 01:11:02.109
I love you guys.
01:11:03.149 --> 01:11:03.469
I don't know.
01:11:03.549 --> 01:11:04.509
What are you gonna say, Simon?
01:11:05.069 --> 01:11:05.789
Who motivates you?
01:11:06.029 --> 01:11:07.789
It's his accent, which is gonna kill it.
01:11:08.109 --> 01:11:12.829
It doesn't matter what the great.
01:11:12.909 --> 01:11:14.429
No, we gotta go after you.
01:11:14.750 --> 01:11:15.549
Good luck, Ricky.
01:11:15.869 --> 01:11:19.549
So you you mentioned being Leo's we're people pleasers.
01:11:19.629 --> 01:11:23.229
I mean, yeah, I I do it for the adoration of the crowd.
01:11:26.429 --> 01:11:28.189
It feeds my ego.
01:11:31.549 --> 01:11:37.229
It feeds my ego and it releases all of the wonderful brain chemicals.
01:11:37.389 --> 01:11:41.149
You know, I I lift the endorphins and serotonin and all the rest of it.
01:11:41.389 --> 01:11:43.069
It's cheaper than drugs.
01:11:44.429 --> 01:11:46.909
And we actually get paid to do that.
01:11:47.949 --> 01:11:49.629
He's a wild man alive then.
01:11:50.189 --> 01:11:52.829
I try cash.
01:11:57.069 --> 01:11:58.349
One word answer?
01:11:58.989 --> 01:11:59.229
Okay.
01:11:59.709 --> 01:12:01.149
For me, it's fun.
01:12:01.469 --> 01:12:05.949
And it's about expression and people having fun.
01:12:06.269 --> 01:12:09.549
And uh like Simon said, getting getting off.
01:12:10.829 --> 01:12:12.349
Getting off for sure.
01:12:12.429 --> 01:12:12.750
Yeah.
01:12:13.149 --> 01:12:18.989
I never realized it at the time, but it's playing loud music is therapy.
01:12:19.389 --> 01:12:19.709
Yeah.
01:12:20.109 --> 01:12:20.269
Yeah.
01:12:21.069 --> 01:12:24.750
It helps me with everything in life.
01:12:25.069 --> 01:12:34.829
I don't realize it at the time, but when we've had a couple of breaks, I had a surgery on my hand, like I'm like trumping at the bit just to go.
01:12:35.789 --> 01:12:37.869
Play loud music that I can feel.
01:12:38.349 --> 01:12:38.669
You know?
01:12:39.389 --> 01:12:40.429
It's like going to a concert.
01:12:40.509 --> 01:12:47.229
You just go even if you know if you're not performing, just being there with a loud music where you can feel your organs vibrating inside your body.
01:12:47.389 --> 01:12:47.709
Yeah.
01:12:47.949 --> 01:12:59.469
That's uh like I think everybody that does this is a bit of an attention seeker, but hopefully we give something back for the uh for the energy that we we we suck out of you in the audience.
01:13:00.509 --> 01:13:09.709
As someone that does not want to be anywhere near a stage doing anything, it is a hundred percent something that you're giving back.
01:13:10.029 --> 01:13:14.989
So it may be feeding something inside of you, but it's a gift that you're giving.
01:13:15.309 --> 01:13:16.269
And lead with it.
01:13:16.509 --> 01:13:17.709
Lead with that, truly.
01:13:17.949 --> 01:13:18.750
Because you are.
01:13:18.989 --> 01:13:19.949
You really are.
01:13:20.349 --> 01:13:24.109
So Ricky got us ready for the speed round with his really quick one answer.
01:13:24.429 --> 01:13:26.909
Oh speed round.
01:13:27.469 --> 01:13:28.750
So we're gonna do the speed round.
01:13:28.829 --> 01:13:30.589
So I mean, tighten up my bridges first.
01:13:31.229 --> 01:13:32.189
So get ready.
01:13:32.349 --> 01:13:38.429
First question Who is most likely to disappear at a truck stop and make everybody panic?
01:13:38.750 --> 01:13:39.469
Blue.
01:13:42.029 --> 01:13:42.349
Me.
01:13:42.909 --> 01:13:43.229
Katie.
01:13:43.949 --> 01:13:44.349
Yeah, okay.
01:13:45.869 --> 01:13:46.029
Okay.
01:13:46.509 --> 01:13:47.229
I know who I'm gonna do.
01:13:47.389 --> 01:13:48.189
I'm a wanderer.
01:13:48.509 --> 01:13:50.909
I saw my god.
01:13:53.069 --> 01:13:53.389
I love that.
01:13:53.549 --> 01:13:54.349
I'm a wanderer.
01:13:54.589 --> 01:13:58.750
Okay, who's most likely to accidentally join a cult?
01:13:59.309 --> 01:14:00.989
Ricky, no, just kidding.
01:14:02.029 --> 01:14:04.189
Why would you why would you say just kidding?
01:14:04.509 --> 01:14:04.669
Yes.
01:14:07.149 --> 01:14:08.589
I feel like it's probably me.
01:14:10.029 --> 01:14:10.669
But I don't know.
01:14:10.989 --> 01:14:11.709
You in the middle.
01:14:12.589 --> 01:14:13.789
I don't get out a lot, this is true.
01:14:14.189 --> 01:14:16.509
I mean, it could be actually any of us.
01:14:16.829 --> 01:14:17.069
Really.
01:14:17.469 --> 01:14:18.349
Who's most gullible?
01:14:18.589 --> 01:14:19.229
And I received it.
01:14:20.669 --> 01:14:23.949
Oh no, I almost went directly to Brian as the first one.
01:14:24.750 --> 01:14:24.909
Yes.
01:14:25.389 --> 01:14:27.229
The question is, who's got a cult that we can all join?
01:14:27.469 --> 01:14:27.789
I know.
01:14:31.709 --> 01:14:32.189
I know.
01:14:32.429 --> 01:14:33.549
That was the question.
01:14:33.789 --> 01:14:36.029
Who's going to start a cult?
01:14:36.669 --> 01:14:38.109
Would be all of us again.
01:14:38.349 --> 01:14:40.189
No, I haven't actually thought about that for years.
01:14:40.750 --> 01:14:41.549
I'm starting one.
01:14:42.269 --> 01:14:45.229
I wouldn't do harm watching all these cult documentaries.
01:14:45.389 --> 01:14:47.149
I'm like, this is so easy.
01:14:48.109 --> 01:14:48.829
Oh my gosh.
01:14:54.989 --> 01:14:57.309
If you're the leader, you can have sex with everybody.
01:14:57.629 --> 01:14:58.509
Yes, I am.
01:14:58.589 --> 01:14:59.149
Oh, right.
01:15:00.909 --> 01:15:02.429
And you do like sex.
01:15:02.750 --> 01:15:04.589
I never knew this about her for the rest.
01:15:05.069 --> 01:15:07.549
No, we were gonna get shirts made that said want to start a call.
01:15:07.629 --> 01:15:07.789
Yeah.
01:15:08.589 --> 01:15:09.869
Oh my god, with the podcast.
01:15:10.989 --> 01:15:11.309
Oh.
01:15:11.949 --> 01:15:12.269
Okay.
01:15:12.589 --> 01:15:16.189
Who is most likely to be late for a rehearsal?
01:15:16.509 --> 01:15:16.750
Me.
01:15:17.869 --> 01:15:18.349
Ricky.
01:15:18.669 --> 01:15:19.229
Ricky.
01:15:19.549 --> 01:15:23.069
But he does give us, he does text us and go, come on, I'm gonna be late.
01:15:23.309 --> 01:15:25.069
I'm this responsible late guy.
01:15:25.309 --> 01:15:29.069
It was it's only Ricky because we practice at Katie's house, otherwise it would be Katie.
01:15:30.429 --> 01:15:31.069
Oh, really?
01:15:31.789 --> 01:15:32.349
Is that the thing?
01:15:32.509 --> 01:15:33.309
Oh, I don't know.
01:15:33.469 --> 01:15:33.709
Okay.
01:15:34.349 --> 01:15:35.869
Calling a girl out.
01:15:37.149 --> 01:15:38.669
Lady Kashmade.
01:15:43.309 --> 01:15:47.469
Who secretly has the weirdest music taste?
01:15:48.269 --> 01:15:48.669
Simon.
01:15:49.949 --> 01:15:52.909
I go fairly psychedelic in a boy and unusual.
01:15:53.469 --> 01:15:54.750
But I do too.
01:15:55.149 --> 01:15:56.429
I get pretty weird.
01:15:56.829 --> 01:15:57.549
It's a tie.
01:16:04.189 --> 01:16:05.949
Fingers were going in different directions.
01:16:06.189 --> 01:16:06.669
You don't know.
01:16:06.909 --> 01:16:07.629
You don't know me.
01:16:08.109 --> 01:16:09.309
Yeah, you would.
01:16:10.029 --> 01:16:10.669
I would.
01:16:11.229 --> 01:16:13.309
I went to the dentist yesterday.
01:16:13.549 --> 01:16:17.469
And I had the dental hygienist was a attempt.
01:16:17.949 --> 01:16:19.709
Are you not trying to point fingers?
01:16:19.869 --> 01:16:20.029
No.
01:16:20.349 --> 01:16:25.069
She told me so much about her life, which she shouldn't have.
01:16:25.149 --> 01:16:27.549
She lives in between hotels in a car.
01:16:29.229 --> 01:16:29.949
Oh my god.
01:16:30.189 --> 01:16:31.309
She's a dental hygienist.
01:16:31.469 --> 01:16:32.269
She gets a good salary.
01:16:32.669 --> 01:16:35.869
She obviously had uh face tattoos which were covered with makeup.
01:16:36.189 --> 01:16:38.269
Oh my god, she's definitely on drugs.
01:16:39.549 --> 01:16:40.189
No, she used to be.
01:16:40.269 --> 01:16:42.269
She was she's been on her own since she was eight years old.
01:16:42.589 --> 01:16:46.909
Still about now style like in the streets or behind a mall.
01:16:48.589 --> 01:16:49.229
No, no, no, no.
01:16:49.389 --> 01:16:50.829
No, I get it's like a spa.
01:16:50.989 --> 01:16:52.349
It's like a beautiful spa.
01:16:52.509 --> 01:16:56.029
Like they give you aromatherapy, massage cushions, sunglasses.
01:16:56.109 --> 01:16:57.629
It's like it's like a really nice dentist.
01:16:57.949 --> 01:16:58.189
Yeah, yeah.
01:16:59.789 --> 01:17:00.589
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:17:00.669 --> 01:17:00.829
Okay.
01:17:01.949 --> 01:17:02.429
So it's her.
01:17:02.750 --> 01:17:06.509
Anyway, the quick the short the short answer is is dental hygienic.
01:17:06.829 --> 01:17:07.869
My dental hygienist.
01:17:08.109 --> 01:17:13.869
I mean, I I I will I will I have no I have very little filter, especially at two in the morning.
01:17:14.029 --> 01:17:14.829
So it could be me.
01:17:15.069 --> 01:17:15.469
All of it.
01:17:15.629 --> 01:17:16.429
A little of all of us.
01:17:16.669 --> 01:17:17.869
I think we can all see it and everybody.
01:17:18.189 --> 01:17:18.349
Yeah.
01:17:18.509 --> 01:17:19.309
A little of all of us.
01:17:20.429 --> 01:17:22.109
But probably especially me.
01:17:22.589 --> 01:17:24.429
We we say all of us.
01:17:25.789 --> 01:17:28.109
It's a time by the hygienist really.
01:17:28.429 --> 01:17:30.349
Yeah, the hygienist wins.
01:17:30.669 --> 01:17:31.069
All right.
01:17:31.149 --> 01:17:34.189
Well, if the band came with a warning label, what would it say?
01:17:34.429 --> 01:17:35.869
Woo! Caution.
01:17:36.509 --> 01:17:37.149
It's hot.
01:17:38.269 --> 01:17:38.509
Yeah.
01:17:38.829 --> 01:17:39.149
100%.
01:17:39.629 --> 01:17:43.789
Get closer, then step back while the band starts rocking at 500 feet damn straight.
01:17:44.109 --> 01:17:44.509
I like it.
01:17:44.750 --> 01:17:46.669
May get hit by sparkles.
01:17:46.989 --> 01:17:48.269
Oh, we love that.
01:17:48.429 --> 01:17:50.589
Yes, we love our sparkles.
01:17:50.989 --> 01:17:52.989
Hope you like diseases.
01:17:59.149 --> 01:18:00.669
May contain the phone.
01:18:06.429 --> 01:18:06.750
Okay.
01:18:09.069 --> 01:18:14.589
If you guys went on a nationwide tour, who would be the hardest to live with on the bus?
01:18:15.149 --> 01:18:15.629
Katie.
01:18:19.309 --> 01:18:21.229
And you wonder why I pointed at you.
01:18:22.429 --> 01:18:23.629
Katie asleep the whole time.
01:18:23.709 --> 01:18:24.109
Are you kidding?
01:18:24.750 --> 01:18:25.309
The easiest one.
01:18:25.549 --> 01:18:26.589
I think we'd have a wonderful time.
01:18:27.869 --> 01:18:28.829
Oh, we had a wonderful time.
01:18:29.469 --> 01:18:30.509
I really enjoy our road trips.
01:18:30.669 --> 01:18:32.269
I enjoy our road trips, you know.
01:18:33.069 --> 01:18:34.509
Katie, this is for you.
01:18:34.589 --> 01:18:39.229
If you had to describe each of them with one word.
01:18:39.629 --> 01:18:41.149
One word or animal.
01:18:42.669 --> 01:18:44.589
Oh my god, I love that.
01:18:48.750 --> 01:18:49.309
Like the Muppet.
01:18:51.469 --> 01:18:52.269
Yes, animal.
01:18:53.469 --> 01:18:54.589
Who's the bass player?
01:18:54.909 --> 01:18:56.269
Simon, who's the bass player?
01:18:57.469 --> 01:19:00.589
Because you're you're so like No, it's how I treat other human beings.
01:19:00.829 --> 01:19:01.069
Yeah.
01:19:01.549 --> 01:19:02.750
Okay, wait, what was Simon?
01:19:03.069 --> 01:19:06.189
It's just She's just describing us as Muppets.
01:19:07.549 --> 01:19:08.829
You fucking Muppet.
01:19:09.469 --> 01:19:10.349
You fucking Muppets.
01:19:10.589 --> 01:19:11.229
Unaccurate.
01:19:12.750 --> 01:19:13.629
Oh my god.
01:19:14.269 --> 01:19:14.829
Sparky.
01:19:16.829 --> 01:19:18.029
Simon Sparky.
01:19:18.349 --> 01:19:20.029
You've already had this conversation.
01:19:20.509 --> 01:19:21.069
Spider.
01:19:22.189 --> 01:19:23.709
I gotta say spider.
01:19:24.989 --> 01:19:26.669
This podcast of monster.
01:19:27.949 --> 01:19:30.429
He's a little sleek and sexy, you know.
01:19:31.309 --> 01:19:34.189
Why did everybody drop jumping on the spider thing?
01:19:34.509 --> 01:19:35.309
Like jumping spiders.
01:19:35.789 --> 01:19:36.750
Because of his hair.
01:19:37.629 --> 01:19:38.750
Because his hair is like a spirit.
01:19:38.909 --> 01:19:41.309
I know, but he started saying spider instead of jumping spider.
01:19:41.709 --> 01:19:42.589
Oh, jumping spider.
01:19:42.750 --> 01:19:43.149
I think it's a good idea.
01:19:43.309 --> 01:19:44.349
Because it's like spider.
01:19:44.829 --> 01:19:46.429
They'll know it's a jumping spider.
01:19:46.989 --> 01:19:48.349
He looks just like a jumping spider.
01:19:48.669 --> 01:19:49.149
I like one of you.
01:19:49.309 --> 01:19:50.669
I like all of it together.
01:19:50.909 --> 01:19:51.629
Oh my god.
01:19:53.149 --> 01:19:59.549
And Simon the Spark because he's sparky because he like repairs instruments and he's like getting shocked all the time.
01:19:59.789 --> 01:20:07.149
It's like, you know, do you guys want to do one word to describe Katie?
01:20:09.229 --> 01:20:09.709
Katie.
01:20:11.709 --> 01:20:12.349
Nice.
01:20:12.909 --> 01:20:13.789
That's safe.
01:20:16.029 --> 01:20:18.989
That's extremely safe, Ricky.
01:20:19.389 --> 01:20:20.109
Oh man.
01:20:20.269 --> 01:20:25.469
Well, it's because of your unique personality, and I was like Course you're kidding.
01:20:25.789 --> 01:20:27.309
Course you kidding, course you kidding.
01:20:27.389 --> 01:20:27.709
Look it up.
01:20:27.949 --> 01:20:28.669
Course you're kidding.
01:20:29.069 --> 01:20:29.309
Look at it.
01:20:30.909 --> 01:20:32.589
I have never heard that word in my entire life.
01:20:34.109 --> 01:20:37.069
Simon's gonna look it up and then Brian will tell say his.
01:20:37.229 --> 01:20:40.029
And by the time Brian says that's it.
01:20:40.109 --> 01:20:41.629
And Simon, read it really slow.
01:20:42.509 --> 01:20:42.589
Yeah.
01:20:43.949 --> 01:20:44.109
I know.
01:20:45.469 --> 01:20:46.189
Take your time.
01:20:48.349 --> 01:20:48.989
Hey, yeah, go.
01:20:49.389 --> 01:20:52.909
My answer was always Katie Teardrop, because that's how I knew it for like the longest time.
01:20:53.309 --> 01:20:57.789
And so when it comes up with the sound of what the ban is, it's like, yeah, it's Katie Teardrop.
01:20:58.589 --> 01:21:00.349
So we got Katie, Katie teardrop.
01:21:01.149 --> 01:21:02.109
Course you cating.
01:21:02.589 --> 01:21:03.389
Course you're kidding.
01:21:03.709 --> 01:21:10.109
Which is to give off or reflect light in a bright in bright beams or flashes or sparkle.
01:21:10.429 --> 01:21:10.669
No.
01:21:11.469 --> 01:21:15.229
Someone's keeping it to be Oh my god.
01:21:15.789 --> 01:21:18.829
To be brilliant or showy in technique or style.
01:21:19.709 --> 01:21:20.189
Animal.
01:21:20.349 --> 01:21:21.549
Where did you come from?
01:21:22.429 --> 01:21:23.469
I called you an animal.
01:21:24.750 --> 01:21:26.669
But Ricky ate a thesaurus.
01:21:27.709 --> 01:21:29.309
Sometimes Ricky, no word.
01:21:29.789 --> 01:21:34.429
You got me so eloquent and beautiful.
01:21:34.909 --> 01:21:36.429
Coming from an animal.
01:21:37.469 --> 01:21:38.029
Oh my god.
01:21:38.669 --> 01:21:40.829
See, but the thing is that where did you get that word in the case?
01:21:41.709 --> 01:21:42.750
It's like an antenna.
01:21:43.309 --> 01:21:50.750
Usually I just talk about meat and then a hitting on drum things and uh eating things.
01:21:51.149 --> 01:21:53.629
Food, and then which is meat, you know.
01:21:53.709 --> 01:22:00.989
And then and then every once in a while, every once in a while, Blue Moon, I'll drop a course you kidding.
01:22:02.109 --> 01:22:02.989
Blown away.
01:22:03.149 --> 01:22:07.309
I think this is the most blown away I've ever been on all of the podcasts.
01:22:07.549 --> 01:22:08.829
Ricky's keeping his job.
01:22:09.309 --> 01:22:09.629
Yeah.
01:22:10.669 --> 01:22:10.909
Yeah.
01:22:12.269 --> 01:22:14.269
That drummer's not swapping out anything.
01:22:14.829 --> 01:22:15.789
I looked that word up.
01:22:16.349 --> 01:22:18.909
Yeah, I felt like he meant I heard a previous podcast.
01:22:18.989 --> 01:22:21.789
I knew this was coming, so I found a fancy word.
01:22:22.269 --> 01:22:23.149
Nice, nice.
01:22:23.789 --> 01:22:24.750
Alright, you guys.
01:22:24.989 --> 01:22:30.349
We wrap up, and I don't know if you've heard this or not, but it's called the reverse cowgirl.
01:22:30.989 --> 01:22:31.949
I love that.
01:22:32.189 --> 01:22:33.069
I love it.
01:22:33.549 --> 01:22:35.549
It's your wait a second here.
01:22:35.869 --> 01:22:41.949
It's your opportunity after being drilled for hours by us to turn the tables and fucking yeah.
01:22:45.069 --> 01:22:53.549
So, Jess, when you lived in DC, what was the worst night you've ever had in DC?
01:22:54.029 --> 01:22:54.669
Worst night.
01:22:54.750 --> 01:22:58.349
I don't know if you remember, there was 9:30 club in Fifth Call.
01:22:59.469 --> 01:23:02.509
So we did a lot of drugs.
01:23:03.229 --> 01:23:07.629
Definitely weed, and I believe we had done some shrooms.
01:23:07.869 --> 01:23:11.149
And then we were drinking, and we ended up at fifth column.
01:23:11.389 --> 01:23:17.629
And in the fifth column, I suddenly got really like distressed physically.
01:23:17.869 --> 01:23:19.469
And then all of a sudden the lights went out.
01:23:19.549 --> 01:23:21.949
Like I couldn't see anything.
01:23:22.269 --> 01:23:24.109
Because that was like the scene, right?
01:23:24.189 --> 01:23:25.469
They just like shut the lights out.
01:23:26.189 --> 01:23:26.989
It was just me.
01:23:27.069 --> 01:23:29.469
Oh, it was distinct.
01:23:30.750 --> 01:23:36.029
So I was led out of control by a friend to sit out on the curb in front of fifth column.
01:23:36.269 --> 01:23:37.309
I could hear everything.
01:23:37.389 --> 01:23:39.949
I knew what was going on, but I literally couldn't fucking see.
01:23:40.829 --> 01:23:44.269
Is that a thing where you go blind from psychedelics?
01:23:44.429 --> 01:23:45.469
Because that's never happened to me.
01:23:46.669 --> 01:23:48.989
Oh I mean, I've done a lot of liquid.
01:23:49.949 --> 01:23:51.389
We certainly should have gone blind.
01:23:51.549 --> 01:23:51.709
Yeah.
01:23:52.189 --> 01:23:54.589
It was a great night once my vision came back.
01:23:55.229 --> 01:23:56.029
That's crazy.
01:23:56.829 --> 01:24:00.429
I I went to the K-hole once uh and and it wasn't that bad.
01:24:00.750 --> 01:24:03.709
I was at what was that hippie club over on Carey Street?
01:24:04.029 --> 01:24:04.669
Carrie Street Cafe.
01:24:08.349 --> 01:24:08.589
I miss it.
01:24:09.949 --> 01:24:10.909
I miss that place very much.
01:24:11.069 --> 01:24:11.789
It was a great place.
01:24:11.869 --> 01:24:12.750
And I'm sorry it's gone.
01:24:12.909 --> 01:24:13.069
Yeah.
01:24:13.309 --> 01:24:16.269
But it was like it was like open jam night or something.
01:24:16.349 --> 01:24:23.309
And and this guy gave me a you know fist like bump of what I thought was one thing and was quite another.
01:24:23.709 --> 01:24:37.629
And uh I was gonna sign up to to jam with somebody, and then I realized I realized that at a certain point I was like and I went and sat down in a booth, and then I couldn't move.
01:24:37.709 --> 01:24:38.989
I had paralysis.
01:24:39.309 --> 01:24:39.949
Oh my god.
01:24:40.189 --> 01:24:42.429
So I was just sitting there like this the whole time.
01:24:42.750 --> 01:24:43.629
How long did that last?
01:24:44.029 --> 01:24:51.629
Praying, praying that nobody I knew came by and to ask to like ask if I was how I was because I wasn't gonna be able to answer.
01:24:51.789 --> 01:24:52.750
I was just like, you know.
01:24:53.629 --> 01:24:55.789
And it was also like pretty good time.
01:24:55.949 --> 01:24:56.509
Pretty good time.
01:24:59.069 --> 01:25:00.189
Is that an afro?
01:25:00.750 --> 01:25:04.909
Uh no, it's an old lady's lamb's wool thing, which I just used to wear.
01:25:07.069 --> 01:25:08.909
Can we have this for the podcast?
01:25:09.389 --> 01:25:09.869
You what?
01:25:10.189 --> 01:25:11.549
We need this for the podcast.
01:25:11.789 --> 01:25:12.989
Please put that to us.
01:25:13.789 --> 01:25:15.069
You have to see this picture.
01:25:15.229 --> 01:25:16.269
We're gonna have this too.
01:25:17.949 --> 01:25:18.909
That is the best.
01:25:19.149 --> 01:25:20.669
We have to ask a question, Johnny.
01:25:21.149 --> 01:25:21.709
Touching the buttons.
01:25:22.349 --> 01:25:23.949
I'm not as exciting as her.
01:25:24.109 --> 01:25:24.589
Yeah, you are.
01:25:24.750 --> 01:25:25.709
I'm just a beach girl.
01:25:25.869 --> 01:25:27.229
Yeah, okay.
01:25:29.869 --> 01:25:30.509
Right.
01:25:30.909 --> 01:25:32.109
I'm sure.
01:25:32.269 --> 01:25:32.750
I know.
01:25:32.989 --> 01:25:34.589
Have you ever had sex on the beach?
01:25:34.829 --> 01:25:35.469
Of course you have.
01:25:36.029 --> 01:25:37.069
Frequently, yeah, frequently.
01:25:38.029 --> 01:25:39.309
Ever get busy under Oceanetties?
01:25:39.789 --> 01:25:40.989
Oceanetties, no.
01:25:41.149 --> 01:25:41.389
No.
01:25:41.549 --> 01:25:42.989
But many lifeguard stations.
01:25:43.149 --> 01:25:43.309
Right.
01:25:46.189 --> 01:25:47.709
Okay, you can have it your way.
01:25:52.909 --> 01:25:53.869
Oh, yeah.
01:25:54.349 --> 01:25:57.229
We used to be a garage band, and then we moved into a house.
01:25:58.750 --> 01:26:00.829
I'm gonna really miss you guys.
01:26:01.069 --> 01:26:01.709
I know.