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All right, everybody, welcome back to the Dylan Gemelli podcast.
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So we have a very, very, very exciting episode. time
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today that I have been waiting and looking forward to.
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So my guest today, she does quite a bit, and
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I've already learned a ton from her. I'm sure many
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of you have heard of her, but just some of
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her credentials first. She is a board certified specialist in
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gastroenterology and internal medicine. She has a bachelor's degree in
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behavioral neuroscience with honors from Lehigh University and a master's
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degree in neuropsychology from New York University. She also has
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a medical degree from the New York College of Osteopathic Medicine.
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And she is the CEO and founder of Terrain Health.
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And she did that because she wanted to practice healthcare,
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not sick care. And she's known for being an expert
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on the gut microbiome and long COVID. So we got
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a ton of stuff to get into today. So my friends,
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welcome Dr. Robin Rose.
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Thanks, Dylan, for having me. I really appreciate it. I'm
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so excited to be here with you. Educate your audience
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on all that we can talk about.
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100%. Well, everybody, I've had the blessing of knowing Robin
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now for several months, and she's going to be doing
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some tests on me as well and help me out
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with some things I have concerns about. And she is just,
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beyond being highly respected, just a wealth of knowledge. But
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beyond that, what I would say is just a huge
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breath of fresh air because of the way that she
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goes about her teaching, the compassion that she shows and
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the knowledge that she has. So we're going to dig
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into a lot of different topics today that I think
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some people are either scared to touch on or don't
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know a lot about, have misconceptions, have like hearsay things.
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So that's why she's here to help and educate. So Dr. Robin,
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let's first just kind of start with your background a
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little bit. Why gastroenterology? Why internal medicine? What turned you
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on to that? What fascinated you with that?
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Yeah. So when I was doing my training in internal medicine,
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it was funny. I actually thought I was going to
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maybe specialized in hematology, oncology. Then I thought I was
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going to do cardiology. And I landed on gastro because
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I just liked the system. And I struggled with some
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irritable bowel syndrome myself. Maybe that's TMI, but I did.
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And I also liked procedures. Like I wanted to be
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a proceduralist. So you do upper endoscopies, colonoscopies. And you
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get to do really cool things when you're in there
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with the scope, like stop bleeding ulcers and take out
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really large masses or polyps that could turn into cancer
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or that maybe are cancer. And you have a lot
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of opportunities to save people from surgery sometimes by being
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able to utilize the instruments and do the procedure the
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correct way. So that's why I went into GI. And
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I really, like I said, I do love the system.
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It's like, you know, the hole in the donut. you know,
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everything from your mouth down to your anus. And then
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it's also your liver, your pancreas, your spleen, your gallbladder.
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So it's a big system to have fun with and
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diagnose a lot of different conditions and diseases and obviously
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treat them. So that's why I chose it. Then it
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was a perfect segue when I went into the functional
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integrative world, right? Or the longevity stage. to transition. It
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was very natural for me to transition into being a
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gut microbiome specialist or really specializing and honing in on
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that area. And also before I even went into the
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functional medicine space, I, you know, always gravitated towards treating
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the gut microbiome, like for years, like right out, right
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when I got out of my fellowship and I was
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in the conventional world, you know, my, my two senior
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partners who were both males, they were like, what are
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you doing? Like, they're like, why are you not scoping
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all these people? They're like, how are you getting them better? And,
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you know, I was using nutrition and I was using probiotics.
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I was using all these things and they're like, what?
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And then they started jumping on the bandwagon. So anyway,
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I always gravitated toward trying to treat people more naturally
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right and trying to get more to the root cause
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and not symptomatic management pill for every ill you know
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so that's always been something that I was passionate about
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anyway so it was a it was a pretty natural
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move for me to go into this space.
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Awesome so then and that's I align so well with people.
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I'm so blessed to talk to people like you. And
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that's why I gravitate to people like you that have
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kind of taken your knowledge base and went and done
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something about it on your own and taken control of
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the situation and help people in the way that they
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really don't get it from normal healthcare. And so when
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you start studying gut microbiome, you did that like quite
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a long time ago, correct?
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Well, it's funny. So when I first got out of
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my fellowship and I started practicing- I started using probiotics
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and prebiotics, more probiotics. We don't learn about any of that.
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No.
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I don't know why, but I literally had a stack
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of papers this high of every article and any article
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I could get my hands on to basically understand why
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this helps people stay healthy, how it impacts your immune system, why...
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people that take probiotics or have a healthy gut microbiome,
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like have less days missed at work or less days
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of an illness when they get sick, if they're sick,
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you know, all these different things, right? And so I
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always had this knowledge to learn that type of medicine.
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But unfortunately, when I finally was doing both, when I
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was sort of in my conventional practicing, 30 plus patients
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a day, I say practicing McMedicine, right? Like a revolving
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door of patients in and out and only being able to,
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you know, spend 10 minutes with them or 15 minutes
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with them and wanting to really heal them. I couldn't
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do that. And I was really depressed about it. It
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was really upsetting. And I really felt like I called
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myself a charlatan. I remember to some, I felt like
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I wasn't like once I finished all my coursework at
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the IFM and all the certifications, like I was like,
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I couldn't even apply it in my conventional practice. There
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was no way for me. And that's when I felt
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like I was like a fake. I was like, I
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can't even like really heal people this. Right. You know,
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and so I just finally in the middle of COVID,
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literally June 2020 of COVID, I gave my notice and
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I just was like, it's just going to work out. Like,
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I just was like, let it work out. Like, I
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was just like, I don't know. And I just started
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Terrain Health, you know, and that's how it started.
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Well, when your heart's in the right place, it always
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works out eventually. It just does.
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I don't know. I think it's still working out, I guess,
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to some degree. You know, it wasn't, you know, it
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wasn't the best. My husband at the time was not
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happy about me.
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Well, you have to do what makes you happy and
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what fulfills you. And that's it. Otherwise, you're going to
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be miserable and resentful forever. So I can tell you
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right now, there's plenty of people thankful for what you do.
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where I was kind of going with the gut microbiome
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thing is it's gotten so more prevalently talked about and
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discussed now where people are realizing that that is one of,
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if not the key issue to almost every problem we have. Essentially,
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it's either a cell problem, and if it's not a
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problem with your cells, it's your gut, right? It's one
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of the two. Everything's originating from there. When do you
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think was the turn for that where that became... Because
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like for me, studying this and being around it, I
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was blessed enough when I met my wife, she was
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working at like a natural health place. But this man
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that was in there that everybody thought that was crazy
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that owned it. And this was like 2011 was way
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ahead of the curve and was talking about this. And
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I was like, what are you talking about? When she
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started telling me, but come to find out, you know,
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it's gotten so prevalent. When do you feel like it
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really took hold that? Okay. people are catching on. Now
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we understand this is really a significant issue to like
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the core.
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Of all the problems. I, you know, so here's the thing.
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like 20, you know, 2019. Right. So, but if you
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look back at all the people that have influenced this
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space so much, like Mark Hyman and, you know, those,
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you know, those, they've been talking about the gut microbiome forever,
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you know, but I mean, I, I think especially since,
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you know, the pandemic, it's become very hot topic, you know,
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it's been published on mainstream media, you know, newspapers talked
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about like on television on, you know, new shows much
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more often, particularly like probably in the last like five years.
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least five years before that. But still, as hot as
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we think it is, and we noticed this, the vast
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majority of the population still doesn't understand or get it,
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nor does the conventional medical world either.
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that more people would be onto this now and understand it,
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especially with all the studies and the talk and the
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people behind it. But I guess the best we can
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do is just keep putting out the info. And I
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interviewed Dr. Gundry a couple of weeks ago. So, you know,
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we got into that heavy, you know, and yeah, it's,
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it's really nice to learn and understand the ways to
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combat this, the things to look for, because a lot
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of people don't know and they just start taking any
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probiotic under the sun. Don't even know what it does.
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Or even the, it's all about really healing the intestinal
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mucosal barrier, right? Like really healing the leaky gut and
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getting the good bacteria to grow, right? You know, probiotics
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are great, you know, to a certain extent, and especially
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you have to be careful about which one you're using.
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And they're sort of like Taurus, you know, they sort
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of like, they go, they're like passing by, Deserting their effect,
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you know, and then they're leaving, right? It's more like
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the postbiotics, which are the metabolites that those good bacteria make.
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That's what's the most important. That's what is influencing structure, function,
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and influencing different systems in our body. It's really those
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metabolites or what I call the postbiotics.
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Okay, so let's do a rundown here. Let's try to
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give a good explanation because I can't, you know, there's
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not too many people that I could think of better
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than you to explain this and break this down for people.
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So let's do this. Let's make it as easy as possible,
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but still get into like the full rundown. One, how
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do we decipher if we have like a leaky gut issue?
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What are some either blood markers to look for or
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some side effects, trigger points, things like that? And then two,
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how do we go about addressing that issue?
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Okay. So you might laugh from my answer, but first
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of all, I think the vast majority of the population,
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especially if you're living in the United States and eat
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a standard American diet, you have some form of leaky
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gut or at least a little bit of it. So
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I say to many of my patients, unless you're a
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cow and you live in a bubble and you eat
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grass all day, you probably have a little bit of
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a leaky gut. Because everything from, right, Dylan, from our exposome,
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like all the environmental toxins, glyphosate which is now pervasive
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it doesn't matter even if you're like not eating foods
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with glyphosate in it because that's being straight in this
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it's being sprayed even like on golf field like on
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golf courses you know and then it travels in the
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air and then we're inhaling it right So it's like
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all of those things are going to, you know, destroy
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the gut microbiome. Your refined sugar, ultra processed foods, alcohol,
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non-steroidal anti-inflammatories. I don't know, the list goes on and on.
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Forget about the course of the antibiotic, but one antibiotic,
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one dose of an antibiotic kills off thousands of the
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good friendly bacteria. So we're exposed all the time to
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all of these things, right? So that gut microbiome, which
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is obviously influenced heavily by our epigenetics, right? How we
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interact and adapt to the world around us is always,
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it's like in this dynamic state, right? So we're always
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trying to keep balance in that microbiome. That's how I
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think of it. So I think we all have to
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be doing something on some level, right? to keep the
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intestinal mucosal barrier intact and to keep really good balance
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in the gut, right? The good, the bad, and the
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friendly bacteria in check, okay? And in balance. So there's
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always stuff that you should be doing. Even not moving,
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you know, being sedentary, even smoking kills, you know, the tobacco,
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you know, that has a bad impact on the gut microbiome.
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Even when you have cortisol dysregulation and, you know, your
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vagal tone is poor, all of that is messing with
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the health of your gut and your gut, you know,
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your gut microbiome and that barrier. So you have to
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be working, unfortunately, because of the, you know, if we
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were hunter gatherers back in the day and we were
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going to sleep when, you know, when the sun went
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down and we're falling asleep in front of the fire
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that we lit naturally and we're just like eating off
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the land and the berries and the plants and, you know,
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hunting when we had to and being in feast or
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famine and all those things. We'd have really good gut
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microbiomes probably, but that's not how we evolved. And so
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based on how we've evolved, we now have to pivot
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and work harder at keeping ourselves healthier and keeping that
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gut microbiome healthier.
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Got it. Okay. Perfect. Yeah. A hundred percent. You're the expert.
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You can't ask me if it's okay.
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That makes sense. Like I was.
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No, I'm just, I'm yeah. A hundred percent. Absolutely.
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So.
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You were talking about prebiotics and postbiotics and all of
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those different things.
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Can we just give like.
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Yeah, you want to talk about that?
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I do because it's very confusing.
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Yeah, it's a little confusing.
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Can you just say, okay, first of all, can you
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just say what the heck is a prebiotic and a postbiotic?
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And two, what do we need and what don't we need?
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Okay. So prebiotics are the food that the bacteria in
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your gut are feeding off of. And the interesting thing is,
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and you can look at this in a lot of
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different ways, but giving yourself a prebiotic or a specific
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prebiotic might not be good for one person, but be
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good for another person because you each have your own
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unique microbial blueprint, right? And so based on the bacteria
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that are there, what prebiotic is right for you, right?
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So I always say, you know, really having that beautiful
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diversified diet of all the colors of the rainbow, right? And,
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you know, sticking to either side of the grocery store,
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like where you're in the produce section or right, the meat,
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the fish and that stuff, like eating anything that man
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hasn't gotten in the way of and staying away from
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that standard American diet, you're going to give yourself the prebiotics,
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like from all the veggies and the fruit, you know,
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all those things, right? So you know, resistant starches, all
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that stuff is going to be really important in helping
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diversify and feed that microbiome. Sure, there's different things like
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inulin and so forth, you know, but again, it's you
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don't know what each person's blueprint is, right? Unless you
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test every single person and know that and then you
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can maybe match that prebiotic to the population that's, you know,
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living there. And of course, if you took maybe, you know,
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something that has a bunch of different prebiotics in it,
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that's always helpful, of course. But eating foods that specifically
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have these prebiotics in them. And, you know, at the
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end of the, you know, I could give you a
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list of like really good prebiotic like foods that give
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the microbiome that food that they need that like prebiotics
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in it is really healthy. I mean, the other thing
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that people talk about, too, are fermented foods. Yeah, yeah.
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Which are awesome, and they help feed the gut microbiome well,
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like kimchi and sauerkraut and kombucha and all those lovely things, right?
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Anything pickled, right? The problem is in this day and
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age and with all the chronic illness we're seeing, a
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lot of people are very sensitive to that, right? Mass
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cell activation, mass cell issues, histamine issues are like through
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the roof right now. So when you give yourself fermented foods,
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it's going to exacerbate that. So once you get your
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gut microbiome in balance again, right, and you've controlled for
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this mast cell or histamine issue, then it's okay to
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start bringing in those foods again so that you don't
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trigger that histamine response. So I digress. Sorry, but I
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just felt like I should say that.
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No, please.
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They are great. And then, okay, so those are your pre-eats.
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So that's your pre-eats.
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Right.
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Your pre situation. Okay. Then you get to your probiotic.
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So you're pre and now you're pro. Yes. Probiotic are
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the bacteria, right? Those bacteria. So that's why when you
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take a probiotic, there's like so many different ones on
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the market. There's like every single one. you know, species
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of Lactobacillus or every single species of Bifidobacteria, right? And again,
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it's like, you want diversity, you want all those different things.
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And then there's, you know, some of them have Streptococcus
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thermophilus in it. And then you have, then you have
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your other class of probiotics, which are your spore forming
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bacteria are fantastic too. And a lot of people lean
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towards those because the spore former, right? Those, those are
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like the missing organisms, right? Like You know, spore form,
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these spore formers, those bacteria, a lot of them have
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been lost over the decades from urbanization, deforestation and industrialization. Right.
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So giving us back those those those types of bacteria
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are great. And then those help actually the other bacteria
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to grow. So that's why a lot of people do
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really well with those probiotics. So like Megaspore Biotic, for example,
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that's by Microbiome Labs. That's a great- Megaspore. Yeah. I
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think Zach Bush has his Ion, what is it? I
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forget his product. I use this other product I love
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called Rhizohelf, which is from unmined soil from South Africa.
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And it's all of the lost organisms that have been
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identified in this unmined soil. You can find unmined soil
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in different parts of the world. And it's wonderful. And
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because of what it's suspended in, and because of what
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it does once it gets into your body, it actually
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behaves as a pre, pro, and post biopsy. So anyway,
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there's lots of different things on the market like this
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that are super helpful, you know? And the probiotic, like
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I said, The spores are nice because they're sort of
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like getting in there and doing their job and getting
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those other bacteria to grow where maybe some of the
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other probiotics aren't sticking as much. But as they pass through,
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they're exerting their effect and they're getting those post metabolites
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to grow.
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I mean, to be synthesized. I don't know why I
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said grow. And the other thing I will say, I'm sorry,
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my head, I feel like I have all these things
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to tell you is When you take a probiotic too,
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in the probiotic is a prebiotic usually because the bacteria
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has to live inside the capsule and stay alive. So
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a lot of times when you're taking a probiotic, you
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have some prebiotic mixed in with the probiotic too.
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Okay. So is that confusing?
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Tell me.
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No, no. Well, okay. So like my mentor several years
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ago told me to take spore probiotics and I'm looking
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at this, like it's a foreign language, honest, just, I'm
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normally like really.
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Yes.
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We didn't get into the, like, what's the difference and why.
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So first, first question, if you're taking a spore probiotic,
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do you need to take a regular probiotic with that?
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Or are you getting what you need from that?
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You're likely getting what you need from it. but I
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will tell you this. I sometimes will add like, and
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this is just because I'm crazy, but so I test the,
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like I do a lot of tests. I was doing
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a lot of testing on the gut microbiome, like next
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generation sequencing shotgun, you know, like real stuff.
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Like, yeah.
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And, You know, it seems that in the post-pandemic world,
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after getting COVID or the vaccine, that the bifidobacteria species
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has been wiped out, okay? And even the phylum, so
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the phylum, which is the class, right, that all those
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different species and families of bacteria fall under, which is
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your actinobacteria phylum, that's wiped out in many people too,
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which is not good. Because if you don't have your
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bifidobacteria species, then your innate immunity, your innate immune response
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is going to suffer hugely. And also, those bifidobacteria also
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control a lot for the histamine response, too, and also
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help produce short-chain fatty acids, which is a host biotic
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or metabolite that's very important for a bazillion different things.
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So anyway, what was I saying? Oh my God. Now
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I like lost my train of thought. What were we
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talking about? Like, oh, the Bifido. Yeah. So I'll, so
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I've been giving people, so I'll have them take, let's
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say the spore forming like a mega spore or the rhizo.
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And then I'll have them do like true Bifido, like
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a true Bifido pro US enzymes make it. And I'll
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have them do that at night. Now, like I said,
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is it sticking? Maybe it's exerting its effect, whatever. I
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know US enzymes, they had told me back You know,
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a few years ago when I did a lot of
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work with them that they had tested it and they
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found that it was sticking, you know, like it was
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present in the gut. But, you know, probably not for
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long periods of time. But anyway, I want people to
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sort of build their Bifido back up. So I was
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throwing that in there too. But the four formers should
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theoretically get the Bifido to start to grow as well.
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Okay. So, so for somebody starting out to make it
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simple for them that really just taking a spore probiotic
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in the evening would be sufficient.
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I do.
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To make life easy. That's my.
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And then would you take that with, without food then?
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Is that, or with food or how do you do that?
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I mean, yeah. I mean, if you're taking antibiotics, you
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want to take it away from the antibiotic. I forget
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with Megas. Okay. better on an empty stomach. That's why
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it's better to take a bedtime, you.
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Know, basically. Yeah. Got it.
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Yeah, I think so.
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So empty stomachs, spore in the evening, that's a good
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way to get going. And then if that's not, if
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you're still having issues, then we would take a deeper
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dive and a deeper look then, correct?
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Right. But then we have to, we didn't, we didn't
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go to the postbiotics.
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Okay. Let's talk about that.
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Let's talk about the postbiotic. So the postbiotic, that means
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It's the stuff that the bacteria or the probiotics or
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the gut bacteria in your microbiome are synthesizing and making.
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So they synthesize and make thousands of metabolites, which significantly
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impact our health. And these metabolites cross the gut barrier
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and get into our bloodstream and impact other parts and cells.
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parts of our body and organ systems, right? And some
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brain barrier and, you know, and some metabolites could be
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good if they're coming from the right bacteria, but some
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could be bad.
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Right.
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And like, so for example, like LPS, right? Lipopolysaccharide, like
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everyone's heard of LPS. Like it's a, it's a marker.
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We look at lipopolysaccharide and that is bad. That means
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you have like a lot of bad, you know, gram
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negative bacteria living in your gut and it's secreting this
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bad metabolism, this bad, metabolite, right? But then you have
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amazingly fantastic metabolites, like your short chain fatty acids, which everyone,
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many people have heard of. So, and those short chain
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fatty acids like do a million different things, you know,
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everything from, you know, restoring health and balance to the
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integrity of the intestinal mucosal barrier, keeping intact, you know,
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the tight, you know, making sure the tight junctional proteins
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are functioning properly, cardiovascular health, metabolic health, Like all those things, right? Right.
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So that's what the post. So I believe that probably
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in the future, like products that really show efficacy, good
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efficacy with these postbiotics or these metabolites is where we're
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going to go. Because it's really that's the end result, right?
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That's the end game. It's not the fact that those
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bacteria are living there. It's what are they doing for
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us and what are they making for us? They're living
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there on purpose to make these things so that we
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are healthy.
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Right.
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Right. So it's going to be all much. I think
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it's going to be more about the post biotics or
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these metabolites.
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Got it.
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So. And there's this one I'm doing. I'm plugging for people.
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Not that I don't even know. I have no ties
486
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to any of these people, by the way. But so
487
00:26:08.059 --> 00:26:10.619
there's a wonderful product that I used for quite some
488
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time and I still use it. And it's called the antibiotics. Okay.
489
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And the antibiotic is all of the thousands of these
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postbiotics or these metabolites that we're talking about. So what
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they do is they get donor stool that's screened, right?
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And then they take the stool and they autoclave the
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crap out of it, right? So that then what's left,
494
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so all anything... any like protein or like any bacteria,
495
00:26:39.140 --> 00:26:41.839
it's all dead. Okay, so that's dead. And what's left
496
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are these beautiful postbiotics or metabolites. And then they encapsulate that.
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So it's like freeze dried poop. And people like to
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tell my patients, they're like, ew, but no, I mean,
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you know, fecal microbial transplants you know, can reverse and
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regress like many chronic disease states and conditions, right? This
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is being studied all over the world. So this is
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a way around that because you're giving them from a
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healthy donor, right? From a really healthy donor who has
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like a perfect, you know, looking microbiome, you're giving people
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the metabolites from their microbiome.
506
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Does that make sense? And so that's a.
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Great product and it works great. You know, people do
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one great on it.
509
00:27:31.140 --> 00:27:33.819
That's laughing because I pulled this up to look at
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it and it says right on here, good shit guarantee.
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And it says, are you our next?
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Yeah.
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Are you our next unicorn pooper? And it says they're
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looking for donors and donors.
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00:27:43.849 --> 00:27:45.849
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
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Really, really important, you know, and I don't want to
518
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get like, I know it's like such a touchy subject.
519
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But I will say that because of how high they
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heat it and it's autoclaved and any protein will even die,
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that if people are worried about the spike protein, you know, about,
522
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you know, because a lot of people are worried about
523
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if that person was vaccinated, if there's spike protein, that
524
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would be killed.
525
00:28:09.990 --> 00:28:11.049
Okay. I believe so.
526
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So I think it's still a good product.
527
00:28:13.450 --> 00:28:17.490
Okay. So let's do this then. So spore probiotic and
528
00:28:17.569 --> 00:28:20.220
the one that you had recommended there was.
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I like Megaspore Biotic. Megaspore? Yeah. Microbiome labs, and I
530
00:28:24.309 --> 00:28:29.430
like Rhizo Health. R-H-I-Z-O Health.
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Got it.
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Rhizo Health. I think it's rhizohealthus.com, their site. Microbiome labs, everyone,
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you know, it's microbiomelabs.com. But those are two of the
534
00:28:38.529 --> 00:28:39.210
ones I love.
535
00:28:39.809 --> 00:28:40.069
Okay.
536
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I just love the time of my patients.
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So we're going to do one of those, like a spore,
538
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and then you recommend also taking a postbiotic along with that?
539
00:28:47.950 --> 00:28:50.930
Listen, if you can afford getting the the antibiotic, I
540
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think it's wonderful. Especially, like, You know, for maintenance, you know,
541
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it's not a forever thing either. Like if you were,
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if you just want to repopulate and get those postbiotics
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in there, like I think you can take it for
544
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three to six months, right? If you have a chronic
545
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condition though, you might want to take it for longer,
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like six to nine at like maybe a little bit
547
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of a higher dose and then back down to maintenance
548
00:29:12.109 --> 00:29:13.890
for a few months and then just keep it around
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if you start to not feel great. You know, that's
550
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.200
like not, you don't have to stay on that forever
551
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because you're just trying to get those postbiotics like in there.
552
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doing their thing and exerting their effects again.
553
00:29:24.259 --> 00:29:27.019
Let's say somebody can't afford that. Is there another alternative
554
00:29:27.059 --> 00:29:27.839
they could go with?
555
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:31.339
For postbiotic, I have to look up. I'm not, nothing. Okay.
556
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.289
But you're, you are saying though that to take that
557
00:29:34.329 --> 00:29:36.490
maybe three to six months and then you don't have
558
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to take it for a while.
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00:29:37.769 --> 00:29:37.990
Yeah.
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00:29:38.009 --> 00:29:42.910
But the Riso does fulfill all three criteria pre-proposed based
561
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on what's in it and what it's doing in your body.
562
00:29:44.940 --> 00:29:48.660
Really? Okay. Okay. So Riso health fulfills everything.
563
00:29:48.859 --> 00:29:50.160
Personally, I think so. Yes.
564
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.000
Got it. Okay, cool. All right. So here's another question.
565
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:56.920
This was actually sent in by my wife via text
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message while I'm talking to you.
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Yes.
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She's in the other room listening and she has a question.
569
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I think it's a good question.
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I love that we sort of have like a live
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studio audience. Yeah, we do. I love that.
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She said to ask you if we still need probiotics
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if we're eating fermented foods on a daily basis like
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kimchi or sauerkraut or things like that.
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00:30:18.990 --> 00:30:22.180
Yeah, so people would argue no. You know, that like
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you probably have a much healthier microbiome and, you know,
577
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:28.970
and if you feel good, right, and you're pooping good
578
00:30:29.009 --> 00:30:31.150
and you don't have GI symptoms, you don't have any
579
00:30:31.569 --> 00:30:35.410
bizarre conditions and your blood work looks, I say no.
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I think if you're giving yourself all of these things
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and you're eating, that's a problem. But the problem is
582
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most people don't, right? They're not eating that way. So
583
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when you don't have like a super clean diet, you're
584
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not eating that way, it's going to be really hard,
585
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like I said, not to have some dysbiosis, not to
586
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have some leaky gut, so on and so forth.
587
00:30:54.250 --> 00:30:56.829
Well, and also people like, for instance, Queenie told my
588
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mom to go shop for kimchi and, you know, sauerkraut.
589
00:31:00.849 --> 00:31:02.890
And my mom wasn't buying the right one. And we
590
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had to fix that. A lot of people don't know, too.
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00:31:05.150 --> 00:31:07.819
It needs to be like the refrigerated ones and, you know,
592
00:31:07.890 --> 00:31:09.650
like the ones off the shelf are not the ones
593
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to buy.
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00:31:10.190 --> 00:31:13.440
I mean, in some of those, I think the kombucha...
595
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.539
Doesn't it have the probiotics in it too?
596
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I believe it does. I'm pretty sure that it does. Yeah.
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Those are great. I mean, and if you're, if you
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00:31:20.789 --> 00:31:23.049
don't have a histamine issue and you're healthy and your
599
00:31:23.069 --> 00:31:26.910
gut's healthy, those are awesome. You should totally be drinking
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those things.
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00:31:27.829 --> 00:31:31.769
Absolutely. Okay, cool. So we've got that kind of down
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00:31:31.829 --> 00:31:33.769
now and that disgust. So I think that's a big
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00:31:33.849 --> 00:31:35.920
one that a lot of people have confusion on. I
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00:31:35.970 --> 00:31:38.480
know it's tricky and there's so many things marketed and
605
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.630
different brands and different BS. So, That was a good cover.
606
00:31:42.809 --> 00:31:44.789
Oh, and wait, hold on. One other thing that I
607
00:31:44.829 --> 00:31:48.690
just thought of. Yeah. Another red flag, I believe, is
608
00:31:49.289 --> 00:31:54.069
when you buy Megastore, when you buy from these good companies,
609
00:31:54.109 --> 00:31:58.819
you really don't technically need to refrigerate it, right? And
610
00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:02.079
there is this fallacy sort of like, oh, it has
611
00:32:02.099 --> 00:32:05.269
to be in the refrigerator. No, no, no, no. You know,
612
00:32:05.309 --> 00:32:10.990
these probiotics are freeze-dried, and if they're made the right way, right,
613
00:32:11.210 --> 00:32:13.309
and they have a prebiotic in them and they're made
614
00:32:13.329 --> 00:32:17.230
the right way and they're freeze-dried, they can live at
615
00:32:17.269 --> 00:32:20.440
room temperature for like a very, they're very shelf-stable for
616
00:32:20.460 --> 00:32:21.359
a very long time.
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Okay.
618
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.160
So they actually, so to me, when they say it
619
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has to be refrigerated, that's like a red flag. The
620
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.380
other red flag to me is when you have so
621
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:35.390
many billions, so many billions and billions of organisms. That
622
00:32:35.430 --> 00:32:37.930
means to me that that's not a stable product, right?
623
00:32:38.269 --> 00:32:41.990
And that those organisms are dying off pretty quickly, you know?
624
00:32:42.410 --> 00:32:47.289
So you want like a shelf-stable, freeze-dried product, for sure.
625
00:32:47.390 --> 00:32:51.569
That's the other thing. Now, the Rhizo, it's shelf-stable too.
626
00:32:51.809 --> 00:32:53.769
And it's a liquid though, just FYI.
627
00:32:54.250 --> 00:32:54.559
Yeah.
628
00:32:54.650 --> 00:32:55.539
But it is shelf-stable.
629
00:32:55.849 --> 00:32:57.430
It looks like it's sold out everywhere. I'm going to
630
00:32:57.470 --> 00:32:59.650
look when we get off the thing, but the podcast,
631
00:32:59.670 --> 00:33:01.369
but it looks like it's sold out everywhere, but I
632
00:33:01.410 --> 00:33:01.990
will find it.
633
00:33:02.369 --> 00:33:05.059
I have it on my, so my, so where I
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00:33:05.099 --> 00:33:07.839
keep all my COVID protocols, I have a bunch of
635
00:33:07.859 --> 00:33:09.500
the Rizzo because it's part of my, I put in
636
00:33:09.539 --> 00:33:18.059
my protocols to help rebuild the gut. It's at Medi, M-E-D-I-C-O-R-E-R-X, MediCoreRx.com.
637
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:19.619
You could get Rizzo there too.
638
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.420
Okay. Well, I'm sold.
639
00:33:21.700 --> 00:33:22.720
And it's for the same price.
640
00:33:23.410 --> 00:33:26.640
Perfect. Well, I'm going to order that there. Here, go ahead.
641
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:27.960
No, no. I said anyway.
642
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.819
Well, here, I was looking and I'm curious here. So
643
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.500
on that microbiome lab site, there's products and I want
644
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:36.339
to ask about these.
645
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:37.289
Go ahead, ask me. Yeah.
646
00:33:37.589 --> 00:33:41.109
Things like addressing gut flora, for example, like is one
647
00:33:41.130 --> 00:33:43.490
of the things on here that I see. And so
648
00:33:43.730 --> 00:33:46.890
talk about that first and then the mucosal support, things
649
00:33:46.930 --> 00:33:49.710
like that. Are those necessary or what?
650
00:33:49.950 --> 00:33:52.859
If somebody, yes, we didn't want to get complicated, but
651
00:33:52.900 --> 00:33:53.859
we could get a little complicated.
652
00:33:53.900 --> 00:33:54.740
Let's get complicated.
653
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:59.339
So like if you want to restore, right, the integrity
654
00:33:59.539 --> 00:34:03.380
to the intestinal mucosal barrier, Yes, like their product, for example,
655
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:07.000
like that Mega Mucosa, right, which has all these different
656
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:11.039
serum immunoglobulins. I think it's, yeah, is it Mega? No,
657
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:15.159
it's Mega IgG2. So that has all these bovine serum
658
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:20.050
immunoglobulins in them, and that is very helpful to restoring
659
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:24.250
the gut integrity, the mucosal barrier, for sure.
660
00:34:24.730 --> 00:34:25.849
Got it. Okay.
661
00:34:26.769 --> 00:34:29.809
And giving it the immune support it needs and all
662
00:34:29.849 --> 00:34:32.760
that jazz. So is the, and then there's also, what
663
00:34:32.780 --> 00:34:35.500
else do they have? They have the mega mucosa. I
664
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.500
think that has, I forget, what is it? Do you
665
00:34:37.539 --> 00:34:39.219
have it up there? What's in it? Can you look
666
00:34:39.260 --> 00:34:40.110
at it? I forget.
667
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.110
Yes, I will look. So I've got mega mucosa here.
668
00:34:44.510 --> 00:34:46.329
I got two screens going so I can look side
669
00:34:46.369 --> 00:34:50.269
to side. It contains, let me get the back.
670
00:34:50.289 --> 00:34:52.199
I forgot what's in there.
671
00:34:52.380 --> 00:34:55.130
So we got L-proline, L- Yes.
672
00:34:55.889 --> 00:34:57.550
Yeah.
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00:34:57.710 --> 00:35:00.949
Immunoglobulin G, M, and A.
674
00:35:01.170 --> 00:35:04.650
Okay. Yes. Okay. So that has the immunoglobulins in it. Right. Okay.
675
00:35:04.929 --> 00:35:09.019
So that's very good for restoring the leaky gut, the
676
00:35:09.059 --> 00:35:11.000
integrity of that, you know, gut.
677
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:12.460
Okay.
678
00:35:12.820 --> 00:35:15.480
And then what was in the, because I get confused
679
00:35:15.500 --> 00:35:16.559
with products. I'm sorry.
680
00:35:16.659 --> 00:35:17.179
I don't know.
681
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.699
And then what's in the, what is in the Mega
682
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.019
IgG 2000?
683
00:35:22.019 --> 00:35:25.539
Let's find that one. Okay. Mega IgG 2000.
684
00:35:25.539 --> 00:35:28.550
I think that has all the bovine serum immune globulin.
685
00:35:28.590 --> 00:35:35.010
That has serum derived immunoglobulin concentrate, immunoglobulin G, 900 milligrams.
686
00:35:35.050 --> 00:35:38.340
That is better. That's going to help. So the mega
687
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:41.099
mucosa is more, so I got them, I'm sorry, audience,
688
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.389
I messed up. So the mega mucosa is better, is
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00:35:44.429 --> 00:35:48.230
very good for, again, restoring health and balance to that
690
00:35:48.469 --> 00:35:52.849
intestinal mucosal barrier, okay? The serum bovine immune globulin is
691
00:35:52.889 --> 00:35:55.269
helpful for that, yes, to some degree, but also to
692
00:35:55.329 --> 00:36:00.659
helping get the different bacteria to grow better also and
693
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:02.280
help with the dysbiosis as well.
694
00:36:02.420 --> 00:36:04.800
Okay, so the mega IG is the one.
695
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.320
For the leaky gut. It's great immune support too.
696
00:36:07.989 --> 00:36:13.130
Okay, so Mega IG Leaky Gut, correct? Okay, perfect. All right, well,
697
00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:17.090
we got some protocols here, so I'm taking so many notes.
698
00:36:17.110 --> 00:36:22.280
I think Microbiome Lab should sponsor this segment.
699
00:36:23.219 --> 00:36:25.300
I think I'm going to send them a copy of
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this and say.
701
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:27.139
You really should.
702
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.440
If you want this released, we got to get some
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00:36:30.500 --> 00:36:33.400
benefit here. No. You know what? I like to promote
704
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.280
the products I believe in, but I like to just
705
00:36:35.300 --> 00:36:37.340
talk them out loud. whatever's good.
706
00:36:37.500 --> 00:36:41.199
We don't have to always, and all the different companies
707
00:36:41.260 --> 00:36:42.059
are so good.
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00:36:42.460 --> 00:36:44.320
Everything doesn't have to be an affiliate code.
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And like, you know, I, it was funny. I was
710
00:36:47.230 --> 00:36:50.110
thinking about that the other day opens up my, my
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00:36:50.269 --> 00:36:53.030
cabinet where I store stash all my vitamins that I
712
00:36:53.050 --> 00:36:55.489
haven't opened up yet. You know, cause I, I hate
713
00:36:55.550 --> 00:36:57.389
running out. And I was like, wow. I was like,
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00:36:57.829 --> 00:37:00.960
I'm really just so good. Like I, I really support
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everybody because I have like, Pure encapsulations, microbiome labs, integrative therapeutics,
716
00:37:07.329 --> 00:37:10.110
vital nutrients. It's like, I have everyone, you know, I
717
00:37:10.110 --> 00:37:12.889
have everyone and everything, you know, designs for health. Like,
718
00:37:12.969 --> 00:37:13.969
it's just amazing.
719
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:18.119
Oh, it's important to learn, you know, about all of
720
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:20.260
these and to just be honest about what works and
721
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.639
what doesn't. Not just because you sell it.
722
00:37:22.780 --> 00:37:25.940
Oh, and biotics research. Yeah, like different companies, you know,
723
00:37:26.019 --> 00:37:28.679
they all, they have, I feel like I just gravitate
724
00:37:29.059 --> 00:37:31.199
to different companies for different things. You know, it just,
725
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:31.920
I don't know.
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Definitely.
727
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Okay.
728
00:37:33.750 --> 00:37:38.320
Well, let's switch gears here. Obviously, you know this. I just, well,
729
00:37:38.449 --> 00:37:39.820
and to be honest with you, I didn't even tell
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00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:42.739
you this. So I told you I tested positive for COVID,
731
00:37:42.780 --> 00:37:44.960
but then I took another test that said I was negative.
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And then I took another one. I had a two, two,
733
00:37:47.659 --> 00:37:50.460
two piece test from CVS, both said positive. And then
734
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.639
I bought three other different tests that all said negative.
735
00:37:52.659 --> 00:37:54.420
So I don't know what the hell I had. Okay.
736
00:37:54.619 --> 00:37:56.139
But I didn't know I didn't feel good at all.
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00:37:56.570 --> 00:37:57.280
Really crappy.
738
00:37:57.550 --> 00:38:00.510
Yeah, I felt horrible. And so you put me on
739
00:38:00.550 --> 00:38:03.449
a very nice protocol that I've never done. And within
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three days, which is by far the shortest, because I've
741
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had COVID like six or seven times, literally. And some
742
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.119
of them have been wretched. Some of them have been
743
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.420
pretty bad, but manageable. But I mean, I had a
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00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:18.119
like two and a half, three week one, one time.
745
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And it seems like they've been different quite a bit too.
746
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This was by far the shortest. I don't want to
747
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:28.449
jinx it because I'm still on 100%. But- Let's talk
748
00:38:28.570 --> 00:38:29.570
first about the protocol.
749
00:38:29.590 --> 00:38:31.469
You're on all the good things. You're on all the
750
00:38:31.530 --> 00:38:34.570
good things. You're not on everything. You're missing one major product,
751
00:38:34.590 --> 00:38:37.630
but I, I, I pivoted and made sure I got
752
00:38:37.730 --> 00:38:39.320
like a bunch of the stuff that was in that
753
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.960
product into you, you know, resourceful.
754
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:43.420
Yeah.
755
00:38:43.460 --> 00:38:46.179
Let's talk about your protocol here because there's, you know,
756
00:38:46.219 --> 00:38:51.139
there's so much, excuse me, but bullshit that people talk and,
757
00:38:51.530 --> 00:38:54.070
and go over and act like something doesn't work. At
758
00:38:54.130 --> 00:38:56.030
least now we can actually talk about it because people
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00:38:56.070 --> 00:38:58.650
are more up to speed and actually grasp the concept
760
00:38:58.690 --> 00:39:01.239
of what was not true and what's true. Let's talk
761
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:05.340
about your protocol that I can 100% confirm absolutely worked
762
00:39:05.380 --> 00:39:09.150
like a charm. you because three days ago.
763
00:39:08.869 --> 00:39:12.869
You want to squash the viral load fast like you
764
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want to you don't want the virus to get like
765
00:39:16.579 --> 00:39:19.579
to start replicating out of control because every for every
766
00:39:19.619 --> 00:39:23.340
virus you're producing tons of spike protein right right so
767
00:39:23.389 --> 00:39:26.070
and you want that fight protein like gone.
768
00:39:25.829 --> 00:39:28.570
As soon as possible okay because.
769
00:39:28.530 --> 00:39:30.559
Well should we talk about a few concepts first and
770
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:35.559
then why yes let's let's okay instead of interviewing me
771
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i shouldn't.
772
00:39:37.409 --> 00:39:41.489
Oh instead of giving a protocol let's explain why like
773
00:39:41.570 --> 00:39:45.150
really why not just just because or You better do
774
00:39:45.469 --> 00:39:47.369
the science. Well, let's talk about the science.
775
00:39:47.769 --> 00:39:51.289
Right. Okay. Let's. Okay. So there's a few. Okay. I'm
776
00:39:51.309 --> 00:39:53.809
not going to get into everything because everyone always yells
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at me when I do that. And they're like, that's
778
00:39:55.030 --> 00:39:56.889
really complicated. I don't understand that. So I'm going to
779
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try to be as simple as possible. And then you
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guide me to tell me if I'm being.
781
00:40:01.550 --> 00:40:02.989
Absolutely. Absolutely.
782
00:40:03.269 --> 00:40:07.110
So there's a few concepts I want everyone to understand. Okay.
783
00:40:07.989 --> 00:40:12.159
Five years of research. and being like knee deep in
784
00:40:12.179 --> 00:40:15.550
this forever, you have to understand two things first, okay?
785
00:40:15.909 --> 00:40:20.250
There's two drivers of the disease, okay? Or what I
786
00:40:20.269 --> 00:40:25.139
call post-COVID conditions or post-tax conditions, okay? Clearly in the vaccine,
787
00:40:25.500 --> 00:40:28.219
it's the psych protein, right? Because that's all that's in
788
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.000
the vaccine is the psych protein. There's no other proteins
789
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.510
in it, right? It's the psych protein. And then from
790
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the virus, it is the spike protein, but the spike
791
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protein and the virus itself also causes a lot of
792
00:40:41.090 --> 00:40:44.409
issues as well. Okay. So, and I'm going to explain why.
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So the virus is what's called a bacteriophage. Everyone's like,
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what the hell is that? So a bacteriophage means that
795
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the virus invades the bacteria in our bio. So I'm
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going to stick with the gut microbiome because this has
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been proven by Dr. Carlo Brugna, Simone Cristoni, and their
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group in Italy. And they published this a few years ago.
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And the fact that nobody really knows this is very sad.
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So I want to get this out to your audience, okay? Yes.
801
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So the bacteria... in the gut microbiome get invaded with
802
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the virus. The virus then replicates, takes over the bacteria. Okay. And,
803
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you know, you can see in the papers published by
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Bronya et al. that under the microscope, these bacteria are
805
00:41:32.059 --> 00:41:34.800
no longer really bacteria and they're not doing their job
806
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.599
anymore because they've been taken over by the virus. Okay.
807
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Right.
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They're teeming with SARS-CoV-2 virus. So like if you could
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00:41:42.389 --> 00:41:45.559
imagine like a circle and then all these little tiny
810
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circles inside the circle are the virus replicating inside the bacteria.
811
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah.
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And then what happens as a result is the bacteria, right,
814
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with all the multiplying virus in it, start to throw
815
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off these peptides called toxin-like peptides. Now, the group has
816
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at this point identified about 300 to 400 different peptides.
817
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It's a signature, okay? They were able to show this
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because in their papers, they did have the same people
819
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that got the virus were their own control. So meaning
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anyone that never had COVID before, when they looked in
821
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their stool and in their serum and all that stuff,
822
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in their urine, they didn't make, these peptides weren't present.
823
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But then after getting the virus, these peptides were present.
824
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Okay.
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So it's unique to SARS-CoV-2. Got it. Does that make sense? Yeah, 100%.
826
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I'm really trying here because I get yelled at a lot.
827
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No, no, no, no, no, no. This is important and
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this is, people will understand.
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So, okay. So now in most people, if you test
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them and we're in the middle of researching all this, okay,
831
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they have these toxin-like peptides. Because the bacteria, the bacteriophages
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live in our gut for months, if not years. And
833
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I'm really not trying to freak people. I'm just telling you. Okay.
834
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So they're there in a lot of people, even people
835
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that don't feel like they have long COVID. And, um,
836
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And we don't know what is the short and long-term damage. Like,
837
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you know, what is somebody's post-COVID condition and is it
838
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resulting from this? I don't know. But these toxin-like peptides
839
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exert their effects all over the body. And a lot
840
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of them are neurotoxins that cross the blood-brain barrier, right?
841
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And they are toxic to the gut and the gut
842
00:43:33.690 --> 00:43:36.570
lining and to maybe your kidneys and all differently in
843
00:43:36.590 --> 00:43:40.030
your heart, you know? So that's problem one.
844
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.820
Okay, one second. One second. I'm going to stop you there.
845
00:43:44.179 --> 00:43:46.119
How do we test for this peptide to know if
846
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we have it in our body?
847
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:50.929
So right now it's in R & D. So I'm
848
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able to do it with a lot of my patients.
849
00:43:53.389 --> 00:43:56.409
But the idea is to hopefully commercialize it at some
850
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point very soon.
851
00:43:57.190 --> 00:44:00.300
Okay. All right. Okay, keep going. Sorry.
852
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Which I don't know how that would happen, but whatever. Hopefully,
853
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maybe someone will hear this and want to help us.
854
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I don't know.
855
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:11.570
So, okay. So that's first. Now it gets more complicated.
856
00:44:11.610 --> 00:44:15.190
You're like, oh God. So when you have the virus, remember,
857
00:44:15.389 --> 00:44:18.510
like when you identify the virus, like even in the gut,
858
00:44:18.869 --> 00:44:22.550
you could have the spike protein just in the cells, right?
859
00:44:22.750 --> 00:44:25.690
Or you could have the virus replicating in the cells.
860
00:44:25.909 --> 00:44:27.710
And that's not just in the gut, but anywhere in
861
00:44:27.750 --> 00:44:31.179
your body, right? Now, once the spike protein of the
862
00:44:31.219 --> 00:44:35.679
virus is inside any cell, it becomes a senescent cell. Yes.
863
00:44:35.900 --> 00:44:37.940
So it becomes like a half-dead zombie.
864
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:38.539
Right, 100%.
865
00:44:38.539 --> 00:44:43.389
And the virus triggers all these different proteins and compounds
866
00:44:43.409 --> 00:44:47.670
that inhibit autophagy. And your audience might be like, what's autophagy?
867
00:44:47.849 --> 00:44:50.690
So autophagy is the way the cell saves itself. So
868
00:44:50.730 --> 00:44:52.829
if the cell is sort of kind of sick and
869
00:44:52.849 --> 00:44:57.130
dying and not well, it can kick in to superhero
870
00:44:57.170 --> 00:45:00.489
mode and get itself like, you know, healthy and better again.
871
00:45:00.619 --> 00:45:00.969
Yes.
872
00:45:01.070 --> 00:45:04.650
But if the spike protein or the virus is inside
873
00:45:04.710 --> 00:45:08.309
the cell, then it's unlikely that that will happen. Now,
874
00:45:08.670 --> 00:45:11.469
those senescent cells have to come out of you because
875
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while they're living in you, they're like throwing off all
876
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:21.460
of these terrible pro-inflammatory cytokines and garbage and horribleness. Yep. Yes. Now,
877
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.840
because of, and I always say it wrong, because of SAST,
878
00:45:25.260 --> 00:45:32.570
which is the secretory phenotype the senescent-associated secretory phenotype, right?
879
00:45:32.989 --> 00:45:36.219
Which sort of sends out signals to like adjacent cells
880
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.159
or cells that are around in the same area, right?
881
00:45:39.340 --> 00:45:42.039
Those cells can then sort of start falling into a
882
00:45:42.059 --> 00:45:45.679
senescent state too. But you can save those cells because
883
00:45:45.739 --> 00:45:48.739
the spike or the virus actually isn't in it. It's
884
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:54.340
just through this sort of mechanism, this communicative mechanism, like
885
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.820
the signaling sort of mechanism that's making them senescent. But
886
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:02.030
those cells that don't have the spike in them or
887
00:46:02.050 --> 00:46:05.789
the virus, you can potentially save them with xenomorphics, right?
888
00:46:05.849 --> 00:46:09.769
So the senolytics are going to get rid of these
889
00:46:10.030 --> 00:46:13.869
bad cells. you know, cells, but the centimorphics can help
890
00:46:13.949 --> 00:46:15.849
morph those cells back to healthy cells.
891
00:46:15.989 --> 00:46:18.570
So is that like a medication treatment therapy?
892
00:46:18.590 --> 00:46:20.570
We're going to get to it. We're going to get
893
00:46:20.590 --> 00:46:22.789
to why. I'm giving you like the concepts.
894
00:46:23.150 --> 00:46:23.469
Yeah.
895
00:46:23.489 --> 00:46:26.639
Does that concept make sense? Like that? It's a hard concept.
896
00:46:26.659 --> 00:46:29.739
Well, it makes sense. It's so hard. It makes sense
897
00:46:29.780 --> 00:46:32.480
to me because I'm in class right now studying cellular
898
00:46:32.659 --> 00:46:35.260
biology and everything. So I understand everything you're talking about.
899
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.199
I totally get it. I just got done learning about
900
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.860
senescent cells and autophagy.
901
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:40.159
Oh, that's perfect.
902
00:46:40.460 --> 00:46:43.530
Well, I work with Timeline Nutrition, and so I'm very
903
00:46:43.590 --> 00:46:47.190
familiar with creating mitophagy and urolithin A. So this is
904
00:46:47.250 --> 00:46:50.210
all my wheelhouse. So I get it. But, you know,
905
00:46:50.230 --> 00:46:52.090
I want to make, I'm sure that people.
906
00:46:52.110 --> 00:46:53.349
I'm trying to like dumb it down.
907
00:46:53.369 --> 00:46:53.429
No.
908
00:46:53.750 --> 00:46:55.530
But you can dumb it down more if you.
909
00:46:55.610 --> 00:46:56.920
Yeah, 100%.
910
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:00.840
Just jump in. So, okay. And then the last part
911
00:47:00.860 --> 00:47:03.699
I'm going to say about this is you have productive
912
00:47:03.739 --> 00:47:07.179
cells and depo cells. Okay. What the hell is that?
913
00:47:07.570 --> 00:47:12.320
So productive cells are cells throughout our body that have
914
00:47:12.659 --> 00:47:17.820
the actual virus inside them that are still producing spike protein.
915
00:47:18.019 --> 00:47:18.800
Does that make sense?
916
00:47:18.900 --> 00:47:20.420
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
917
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.099
And then another type of productive cell is a cell
918
00:47:24.179 --> 00:47:28.059
that has the mRNA in it from the vaccine that's
919
00:47:28.460 --> 00:47:31.679
able to still produce spike protein. Does that make sense?
920
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:33.000
So that's not good.
921
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.780
No, that's not good. But then because of all the
922
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:40.650
free-floating spike and all the spike that we produce from
923
00:47:40.690 --> 00:47:44.650
the vaccine or virus when we're infected, the spike is
924
00:47:44.730 --> 00:47:48.389
a magnet for any cell in your body, okay? And
925
00:47:48.449 --> 00:47:52.570
the spike can actually attach to over two dozen different
926
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.980
host cell receptors in our body. So everyone always hears ACE, ACE,
927
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.360
ACE receptor, ACE receptor. No, no, no. That's like one
928
00:47:58.380 --> 00:48:02.409
of 26 receptors. That's why it's such a beast. And
929
00:48:02.429 --> 00:48:05.980
that's why it impacts so many different organ systems, because
930
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.719
it can access almost every cell in our body. OK,
931
00:48:10.099 --> 00:48:13.460
so if you have free floating spike without the mRNA
932
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.610
or the virus, right, that spike is a magnet for
933
00:48:16.769 --> 00:48:19.110
any healthy cell it comes into. It doesn't live in
934
00:48:19.130 --> 00:48:21.150
the blood. I just want to make that like it
935
00:48:21.190 --> 00:48:23.449
has no purpose. It doesn't it doesn't want to be there.
936
00:48:23.489 --> 00:48:25.309
We'll just like you'll eventually just get rid of it.
937
00:48:25.309 --> 00:48:27.739
You'll pee or poop it out. So as soon as
938
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:30.480
it comes in contact with a healthy cell, it accesses
939
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:33.599
that host cell receptor, gets in, and that's a deep
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00:48:33.619 --> 00:48:37.079
host cell. So it's not productive because it doesn't have
941
00:48:37.139 --> 00:48:40.210
machinery behind it like a virus or the mRNA to
942
00:48:40.289 --> 00:48:44.369
make more, but it's still a spike inside a cell
943
00:48:44.409 --> 00:48:48.650
that now made that cell senescent and now overrides autophagy
944
00:48:49.050 --> 00:48:51.429
and it needs to be taken out also. Does that
945
00:48:51.469 --> 00:48:51.909
make sense?
946
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:53.880
Yeah. It's a mess.
947
00:48:53.900 --> 00:48:57.179
You got to get all those cells out. And then
948
00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:00.110
the other cells, like I told you from the SAS,
949
00:49:00.230 --> 00:49:02.550
you know, that don't have spike or virus in it,
950
00:49:03.030 --> 00:49:05.570
you know, they can be safe. And it's every cell
951
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in your body. It's like the immune cell, every endothelial cell,
952
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epithelial cells, your astrocytes in your brain, your like everything
953
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right and and there's thousands of papers from from major
954
00:49:22.300 --> 00:49:27.570
academic academic institutions all over the globe that show exactly
955
00:49:27.590 --> 00:49:29.869
what i'm talking about so it's not like made up
956
00:49:30.329 --> 00:49:35.289
like electron microscopic pictures of this right like that show
957
00:49:35.389 --> 00:49:38.820
that this is like legitimate and really is happening you.
958
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:43.760
Know Have you given any lectures, written any books, done
959
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:44.900
anything on this at all?
960
00:49:45.179 --> 00:49:49.800
Yeah. So it's funny. And I'm a very humble person.
961
00:49:49.860 --> 00:49:52.019
I don't have a big ego at all, but I'll
962
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:55.079
tell you this. So I've been trying to really perfect
963
00:49:55.139 --> 00:49:59.090
my speaking because I have all this information in my brain,
964
00:49:59.130 --> 00:50:01.010
and it's really hard to get out, right? And I'm
965
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not a seasoned speaker. I don't. I haven't. Like Betsy
966
00:50:04.929 --> 00:50:08.150
and all these other beautiful mentors and friends of mine,
967
00:50:08.170 --> 00:50:10.730
they've been speaking for a long time, and I love
968
00:50:10.769 --> 00:50:12.469
listening to them, and I learn so much from them.
969
00:50:12.570 --> 00:50:15.119
And like Frank Lipman, like all these people. Amy Killen's
970
00:50:15.179 --> 00:50:18.800
another one. Kiran Krishnan. Like, oh, they're great. And so
971
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:20.199
I get out there, and I'm like, I have all
972
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.170
this stuff. I don't know what to do with it.
973
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.659
So I was at the IHS, gave my talk, And
974
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.929
I was like, yeah, that wasn't great because although like
975
00:50:29.989 --> 00:50:32.110
so many people, I was there an hour after like
976
00:50:32.170 --> 00:50:35.230
talking to so many people that their reception was lovely.
977
00:50:35.269 --> 00:50:36.730
But I was like, God, I got to do better.
978
00:50:36.909 --> 00:50:39.320
So then I went to go speak at Calm, which
979
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is me and, you know, Betsy and Cynthia, you know, Keller.
980
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.119
Like we all spoke, you know, a lot of us
981
00:50:45.139 --> 00:50:47.900
spoke there. A bit Hussein, like whatever, great group of people.
982
00:50:48.670 --> 00:50:51.750
And Betsy and I love Betsy was like so cute
983
00:50:51.769 --> 00:50:53.949
because she's like bragging like because like I'm like her
984
00:50:54.179 --> 00:50:56.500
like really good friend. And and so she's like, we've
985
00:50:56.579 --> 00:50:59.920
never seen this happen before. So what happened was was
986
00:51:00.059 --> 00:51:02.579
I couldn't. So I shortened the talk and I got
987
00:51:02.619 --> 00:51:05.079
through a lot of the points, which we'll finish getting through.
988
00:51:05.420 --> 00:51:08.760
And this the audience was like stunned. Right. And I
989
00:51:09.340 --> 00:51:11.219
I was like, oh, my God. Right. And I didn't
990
00:51:11.260 --> 00:51:13.800
realize like how like impactful. But like I definitely did
991
00:51:13.820 --> 00:51:15.860
a much better job than at IHS, like getting the
992
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:18.809
points across. Right. Right. And so I got through so
993
00:51:18.829 --> 00:51:21.130
much more of the talk to really, you know, have
994
00:51:21.170 --> 00:51:23.949
people wrap their heads around, like what is going on,
995
00:51:24.230 --> 00:51:27.099
you know? And it was a great audience because many of,
996
00:51:27.289 --> 00:51:30.190
you know, it's a lot of doctors, obviously, you know, nutrition,
997
00:51:30.230 --> 00:51:32.250
you know, people like you too, like, like that are
998
00:51:32.269 --> 00:51:34.190
in your space as well, but people that get it,
999
00:51:34.349 --> 00:51:37.309
you know? So it was good. And so the MC, Karen,
1000
00:51:37.329 --> 00:51:41.010
who's like adorable, so awesome. She comes off to take
1001
00:51:41.050 --> 00:51:44.610
me off and they booed her and told them to like,
1002
00:51:44.670 --> 00:51:47.530
let me finish and keep going. And I was so
1003
00:51:47.650 --> 00:51:50.800
flattered and humbled. Like I really was. And like, and
1004
00:51:50.820 --> 00:51:53.440
then like Betsy and like Cynthia, they're like, that's never
1005
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.039
happened at any conference we've ever been at, you know?
1006
00:51:56.079 --> 00:52:01.489
So this must be really important, you know? The point is,
1007
00:52:01.570 --> 00:52:05.610
I've been at only a few talking, but I'm getting better.
1008
00:52:06.050 --> 00:52:08.050
So I promise the next time I'll be better.
1009
00:52:08.289 --> 00:52:13.809
Well, look, I have done public speaking for, what am I, 43?
1010
00:52:13.809 --> 00:52:16.909
I started, I mean, I was doing classes and everything
1011
00:52:16.929 --> 00:52:19.630
at 14 years old. Some people get amped for it.
1012
00:52:19.670 --> 00:52:23.150
Like I look forward to it and I get amped
1013
00:52:23.170 --> 00:52:27.710
for it. I have no butterflies anymore, no sweats, no
1014
00:52:28.070 --> 00:52:29.449
fast heart, nothing at all.
1015
00:52:29.469 --> 00:52:30.639
It's like, it's excitement.
1016
00:52:30.989 --> 00:52:33.480
But you have to, that doesn't come naturally. You have
1017
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:36.019
to overcome and get used to it and you will.
1018
00:52:36.260 --> 00:52:39.039
More comfort and then it starts flowing. I mean, you
1019
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:40.900
go back and watch some of the videos I made
1020
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:43.739
like 15 years ago and you're like, dude, what the,
1021
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.769
you know, I'm looking at myself like, what?
1022
00:52:47.010 --> 00:52:49.590
I really, it was a big leap from that one
1023
00:52:49.630 --> 00:52:52.309
to this one. Like I definitely was much better and
1024
00:52:52.670 --> 00:52:55.030
like got my point across and a lot more clear,
1025
00:52:55.269 --> 00:52:58.239
you know, with the message. Yeah. And I was definitely
1026
00:52:58.619 --> 00:53:01.269
not nearly as nervous too, which was good. So I
1027
00:53:01.309 --> 00:53:04.150
feel like what you're saying, the more I do, the better.
1028
00:53:04.449 --> 00:53:06.929
Here's what you have to have in your corner. It's
1029
00:53:07.070 --> 00:53:09.829
so important. Well, two things. One, you have to have
1030
00:53:09.949 --> 00:53:13.159
thick ass skin where you can need to be open
1031
00:53:13.539 --> 00:53:17.179
to all criticism and take it as help and not like, oh,
1032
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:19.179
you hurt my feelings. And you have to be able
1033
00:53:19.219 --> 00:53:21.139
to take that and listen to it and then use
1034
00:53:21.179 --> 00:53:23.360
it as your fuel to go, man, because I always
1035
00:53:23.380 --> 00:53:26.019
tell my wife, If I'm being annoying, if I'm talking
1036
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.590
too much, if I look like shit, tell me so
1037
00:53:28.650 --> 00:53:29.420
I can fix it.
1038
00:53:29.889 --> 00:53:30.130
Right?
1039
00:53:30.389 --> 00:53:32.789
So you have to be open to constructive criticism.
1040
00:53:32.809 --> 00:53:34.719
Which I am. I'm totally open to it.
1041
00:53:34.789 --> 00:53:37.389
So once you're open to that, then you can go
1042
00:53:37.449 --> 00:53:39.690
back and rewatch what you did and go, okay, maybe
1043
00:53:39.730 --> 00:53:42.750
this person's just hating or maybe this person's really telling
1044
00:53:42.789 --> 00:53:45.820
me the truth. And you can judge by audience reaction
1045
00:53:45.860 --> 00:53:46.820
and how you view it.
1046
00:53:47.179 --> 00:53:47.360
Right?
1047
00:53:47.380 --> 00:53:49.780
But you can't live in fantasy land and think that,
1048
00:53:49.940 --> 00:53:51.920
oh my gosh, I do everything great. I don't care
1049
00:53:51.940 --> 00:53:52.590
if you've been doing it.
1050
00:53:52.619 --> 00:53:53.179
Not at all.
1051
00:53:53.510 --> 00:53:55.969
Yeah. You do it a hundred years, you're still probably
1052
00:53:56.010 --> 00:53:56.829
doing something wrong.
1053
00:53:57.110 --> 00:54:01.250
And yeah, totally. Always wanting to get better. Always learning
1054
00:54:01.289 --> 00:54:03.090
more every day. You know, all those things.
1055
00:54:03.449 --> 00:54:06.159
Yes. There's no room for sensitivity when you're trying to
1056
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.760
be successful. There's just not, you know, and I'm big
1057
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:12.159
on that. You have to be able to be tough
1058
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.280
to be successful. So just wanted to throw that. I'm sorry.
1059
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.219
I get really riled up with that because I'm like
1060
00:54:17.300 --> 00:54:19.750
really trained for And so I.
1061
00:54:19.750 --> 00:54:22.250
Didn't mean to digress, but that's what happened. And yeah,
1062
00:54:22.289 --> 00:54:23.369
so I've spoken a few times.
1063
00:54:24.650 --> 00:54:27.909
I think you're wonderful. I think that you get passionate
1064
00:54:27.949 --> 00:54:30.420
about what you're saying. So you just keep going and
1065
00:54:30.539 --> 00:54:32.079
people want to hear it. They do.
1066
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.440
Right. So those are those first two points, which are
1067
00:54:35.659 --> 00:54:36.539
so important.
1068
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:37.119
Yes.
1069
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:38.920
So now you're like, crap, how do we get this out?
1070
00:54:39.699 --> 00:54:41.119
And then I just want to talk about a few
1071
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:42.860
other really important points. Okay.
1072
00:54:43.099 --> 00:54:43.400
Yes.
1073
00:54:43.420 --> 00:54:46.500
So now everyone's like, okay. The spike protein, it's in there.
1074
00:54:46.539 --> 00:54:48.320
It's doing X, Y, and Z. What is it doing?
1075
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.719
Let's just focus in on like three organ systems. Because
1076
00:54:51.780 --> 00:54:53.980
I mean, yeah, you can get into the autoimmune part,
1077
00:54:54.059 --> 00:54:56.059
get into the immune deficiency part, like whatever. But let's
1078
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.440
talk about the brain, the heart, and the vascular system.
1079
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:00.239
Yes, please.
1080
00:55:00.469 --> 00:55:05.010
It's so important. So your brain, it's so sensitive to this.
1081
00:55:05.070 --> 00:55:07.010
And this is why I believe we're seeing the tsunami
1082
00:55:07.030 --> 00:55:10.320
of neurodegenerative disease like we've never seen before. Right. Even
1083
00:55:10.389 --> 00:55:14.289
from 2020 to 2022, there has been an increase of
1084
00:55:14.389 --> 00:55:18.449
Parkinson's disease by 50 percent. I just 50 percent. I
1085
00:55:18.489 --> 00:55:21.130
didn't say one percent. I didn't say five percent. I
1086
00:55:21.170 --> 00:55:24.489
didn't even say 10 percent. Just a 50 percent. Right.
1087
00:55:24.769 --> 00:55:25.170
Right.
1088
00:55:25.670 --> 00:55:29.090
This is because when the spike. So it's a few.
1089
00:55:29.150 --> 00:55:31.070
There's a there's a few reasons why. And I'm going
1090
00:55:31.150 --> 00:55:33.349
to let's just get into the few simple a few
1091
00:55:33.449 --> 00:55:34.610
reasons that people can take away.
1092
00:55:34.949 --> 00:55:35.309
Please.
1093
00:55:35.570 --> 00:55:39.329
OK. Where should I start first? OK. OK. So one
1094
00:55:39.510 --> 00:55:44.010
concept is that we know that the spike protein from
1095
00:55:44.110 --> 00:55:48.280
post-mortem studies, you know, from pathologists looking at this, in
1096
00:55:48.340 --> 00:55:51.139
people that had COVID or even the vaccine, that the
1097
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:55.039
spike protein is found even months and months later after
1098
00:55:55.059 --> 00:55:58.469
they were exposed to either in the skull. In the
1099
00:55:58.590 --> 00:56:05.650
skull meninges, like meaning the skull meninges connection, the meninges itself,
1100
00:56:05.769 --> 00:56:10.260
and in the skull bone marrow. Okay, this has been proven. Now,
1101
00:56:10.619 --> 00:56:14.320
we also know that the spike protein has a very
1102
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:18.380
high affinity for the astrocytes in our brain and the pericytes.
1103
00:56:18.739 --> 00:56:22.710
So the astrocytes and the astroglia cells are super duper important, right?
1104
00:56:22.750 --> 00:56:26.130
And we know that these astrocytes are what line and
1105
00:56:26.210 --> 00:56:29.869
make up the blood-brain barrier, okay? And then the pericytes
1106
00:56:29.909 --> 00:56:32.010
are like sort of behind it on the back. And
1107
00:56:32.030 --> 00:56:33.829
if you like, we're thinking like, oh, there's a front
1108
00:56:33.889 --> 00:56:36.630
row and a back row, like behind. And those also
1109
00:56:36.889 --> 00:56:41.289
are infected. The spike protein transfects those cells too, I guess.
1110
00:56:41.349 --> 00:56:43.030
So that's like another lining then.
1111
00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:43.570
Yeah.
1112
00:56:43.989 --> 00:56:44.340
Okay.
1113
00:56:44.500 --> 00:56:47.400
So now, okay. So, okay. So now we have spike
1114
00:56:47.460 --> 00:56:51.559
inside these cells and that's really bad. And then on
1115
00:56:51.980 --> 00:56:55.940
the other side of our brain is our glymphatic system, right?
1116
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.360
Which is, which is how we get rid of all
1117
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.780
the toxins and garbage, like sort of like how our
1118
00:57:00.900 --> 00:57:04.420
lymphatic system works throughout our body. That's our glymphatic system
1119
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.340
in our brain. And especially at night when we're sleeping,
1120
00:57:07.699 --> 00:57:10.679
that's when the glymphatic system is working the most to
1121
00:57:10.780 --> 00:57:12.780
move all the garbage out of our brain, right? So
1122
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:16.699
we can repair, regenerate, detox. So the glymphatic system is
1123
00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:22.039
lined also by the astrocytes and these channels called the aquaporin-4, okay?
1124
00:57:22.059 --> 00:57:27.800
And that's heavily... Those are heavily infested by the spike
1125
00:57:27.820 --> 00:57:30.659
protein as well. So now what happens is your brain,
1126
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.719
we call it like a pressure cooker. Because in like
1127
00:57:33.780 --> 00:57:37.670
my group in Europe, Joachim Gerlach, who's been an amazing mentor,
1128
00:57:37.710 --> 00:57:41.610
he coined it because it's true. Because what happens is
1129
00:57:41.670 --> 00:57:44.860
now the blood-brain barrier is like wide open, right? It's
1130
00:57:44.889 --> 00:57:48.699
not intact anymore. All this garbage is flying across it
1131
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:52.420
because you know that blood-brain barrier is so, so selective
1132
00:57:52.500 --> 00:57:55.719
about what comes into your brain, right? And on the
1133
00:57:55.820 --> 00:57:59.960
other side, you have a destroyed or very compromised lymphatic
1134
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:02.579
system that isn't able to get rid of all this
1135
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:05.840
garbage now flying across your brain. So that's why people
1136
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:09.460
feel the way they feel. They feel like they're underwater,
1137
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:12.320
like their head's going to explode, right? Don't you talk
1138
00:58:12.340 --> 00:58:14.800
to all these long COVID patients, that's what they feel like.
1139
00:58:15.250 --> 00:58:18.570
you know, and that's what drives the chronic fatigue and
1140
00:58:18.590 --> 00:58:22.360
the post-exertional malaise and that head pressure feeling and the
1141
00:58:22.510 --> 00:58:24.519
neck pressure and all, like I know so many people
1142
00:58:24.539 --> 00:58:26.179
are probably like, oh my God, that's how I feel,
1143
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:28.039
that are listening to this or that will be listening
1144
00:58:28.059 --> 00:58:30.860
to this because that's why, that's one of the reasons, okay?
1145
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:34.920
And then you get, microglia activation and those microglia cells
1146
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.380
are terrible. You know, when you have microglia activate, that's what,
1147
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.039
you know, when you look at an Alzheimer's brain, right?
1148
00:58:40.340 --> 00:58:44.619
They have microgliosis, their microglia are activated. That's what causes
1149
00:58:44.699 --> 00:58:48.070
damage and all that stuff. That's what a SARS-CoV-2 brain
1150
00:58:48.130 --> 00:58:50.429
looks like too. If you look at studies and put
1151
00:58:50.469 --> 00:58:53.150
them side by side. Okay, so that's one point. The
1152
00:58:53.210 --> 00:58:57.440
second point is that when the spike protein and this, okay,
1153
00:58:57.460 --> 00:59:00.440
so I got to give credit. So there's two researchers,
1154
00:59:00.659 --> 00:59:04.469
Per Hammerstrom and Sophie Nystrom. I think they're Swedish. They
1155
00:59:04.570 --> 00:59:09.420
published what we coined the Hammerstrom fibers, okay? They looked
1156
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:12.659
at the spike protein and they looked at this enzyme
1157
00:59:12.699 --> 00:59:17.300
called neutrophil elastase. So when you have SARS-CoV-2, when you
1158
00:59:17.550 --> 00:59:21.949
have the virus, it activates the neutrophils, which is part
1159
00:59:21.969 --> 00:59:25.469
of your white blood cells, right? Which fight off infection.
1160
00:59:25.489 --> 00:59:28.550
They get activated. And then when the neutrophils get activated,
1161
00:59:28.590 --> 00:59:31.070
they release this enzyme called neutrophil elastase.
1162
00:59:31.329 --> 00:59:32.159
Right, right.
1163
00:59:32.429 --> 00:59:35.440
When neutrophil elastase, so it's an enzyme, right? So you
1164
00:59:35.460 --> 00:59:38.820
know enzymes can cut things up. So when neutrophil elastase
1165
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.980
comes into contact with the spike protein and it cuts
1166
00:59:42.139 --> 00:59:46.190
the protein at certain parts, you know, of that sequence.
1167
00:59:46.510 --> 00:59:46.829
Yeah.
1168
00:59:47.070 --> 00:59:53.679
They identified... seven different sequences or epitopes that get exposed
1169
00:59:53.780 --> 00:59:57.679
when the spike protein comes in contact with the neutrophil elastase.
1170
00:59:57.980 --> 00:59:58.300
Okay.
1171
00:59:58.460 --> 01:00:04.150
Those seven proteins are neurotoxic fibrils. They form neurotoxic fibrils
1172
01:00:04.329 --> 01:00:10.130
on contact with the spike protein. So, and it's tau proteins, right?
1173
01:00:10.150 --> 01:00:12.840
We know what tau, tau is Alzheimer's, right?
1174
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:13.699
Yeah. Yeah.
1175
01:00:13.940 --> 01:00:19.909
Alpha synuclein, which is Parkinson's, CD, is it CD-147? Or
1176
01:00:20.090 --> 01:00:22.329
I forget, I think that's, or C, what's the other one?
1177
01:00:22.730 --> 01:00:28.889
The one for ALS. There's beta amyloid, right? Beta amyloid,
1178
01:00:28.929 --> 01:00:30.889
which we know is Alzheimer's too.
1179
01:00:30.969 --> 01:00:31.750
Right, right.
1180
01:00:32.250 --> 01:00:35.550
And they even identified one of, you know, and I
1181
01:00:35.570 --> 01:00:37.170
can share that too with you so you can see
1182
01:00:37.210 --> 01:00:39.170
the slide or you want to share the study with
1183
01:00:39.190 --> 01:00:44.300
the audience. That's prionergic. meaning it could cause prion disease.
1184
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:44.639
Right.
1185
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.619
And so people, if people want to understand what that is,
1186
01:00:47.619 --> 01:00:48.840
it's mad cow's disease.
1187
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Man, there's a lot here.
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Right, right. And so that is why, because of this
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01:00:56.929 --> 01:01:00.050
sort of soup of different, or in the soup, I
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01:01:00.110 --> 01:01:02.940
think of it, like these different fibers that can form,
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01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:06.760
you're almost seeing these people present or we're seeing in
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01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.360
the clinic. And when I talk to my beautiful colleagues
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01:01:09.429 --> 01:01:12.489
out there that are really noticing this too, you're seeing like,
1194
01:01:12.590 --> 01:01:17.070
not even like straightforward ALS or straightforward Parkinson's or straight
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01:01:17.289 --> 01:01:20.409
or it's like almost like a mishmash because you have
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01:01:20.789 --> 01:01:25.969
a mishmash of these fibers being activated exposure. And so
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01:01:25.989 --> 01:01:29.559
everyone's like, everyone, I know everyone's over it. I get it.
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I don't want you not to be over it. But,
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you know, even in the last year and a half alone,
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01:01:36.260 --> 01:01:40.489
there's been three or four papers published by Nature's Communication
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01:01:40.739 --> 01:01:44.210
just showing like a young person, like a young person
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01:01:44.230 --> 01:01:47.590
with mild from just one exposure from a mild case
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01:01:47.710 --> 01:01:51.730
or an asymptomatic case of COVID has brain changes, has
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01:01:51.909 --> 01:01:56.670
gray matter changes, white matter changes, has decreased cerebral blood
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01:01:56.730 --> 01:02:01.510
flow to their brain just after one exposure. Right. So
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01:02:01.690 --> 01:02:04.650
this is why now people are being exposed over and
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01:02:04.690 --> 01:02:07.630
over again. And we already live in a toxic suit. Right.
1208
01:02:07.889 --> 01:02:09.570
So we already live in a time. And now you
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01:02:09.590 --> 01:02:12.889
have this biotoxin on top of everything else that I
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01:02:12.909 --> 01:02:14.829
think so many people are living right here. And it
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01:02:14.849 --> 01:02:16.989
just like pushed them over. You know, it was like
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01:02:17.329 --> 01:02:18.829
it was like the last drop in the bucket.
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01:02:19.030 --> 01:02:21.030
So the more exposed you've been to it or more
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01:02:21.070 --> 01:02:23.110
that you've had it, then the likely the more.
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01:02:23.130 --> 01:02:24.369
Maybe possibly.
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01:02:24.389 --> 01:02:25.130
Yeah.
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You could have all the people from the first time
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01:02:27.510 --> 01:02:30.340
that are still suffering. Yeah. I mean, I believe the
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01:02:30.380 --> 01:02:34.719
more spike burden you have, yeah, could set you up
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01:02:34.780 --> 01:02:37.949
probably not for the best success. And that's why it's
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01:02:37.969 --> 01:02:42.090
so important, you know, for prophylactics, I believe, you know,
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01:02:42.190 --> 01:02:46.030
for prevention and for treatment to like really treat the
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01:02:46.070 --> 01:02:48.869
right way and try to move the virus, you know,
1224
01:02:48.909 --> 01:02:51.670
like squash the virus right away so it doesn't multiply
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01:02:51.710 --> 01:02:53.889
and get rid of these spike proteins right away so
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01:02:53.929 --> 01:02:57.050
they can't take hold and get, you know, become pervasive
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01:02:57.090 --> 01:02:58.360
in different cells throughout your body.
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01:02:58.739 --> 01:03:02.079
So why would somebody like me have had it so
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01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:05.300
many damn times? Like, keep getting it. I don't understand.
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01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.300
So, okay. So, all right. So we sort of covered
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01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:10.630
the neuro stuff. Okay, so I guess I'll move to
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01:03:10.670 --> 01:03:16.409
immune deficiencies. Okay. Remember when, like, okay, so the spike protein,
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01:03:16.789 --> 01:03:18.829
so I was explaining how it gets inside the cells.
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01:03:19.170 --> 01:03:22.610
So it really has a very high affinity for your
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01:03:22.650 --> 01:03:27.010
CD4 cells, your CD8 cells, so your T lymphocytes. Your
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01:03:27.210 --> 01:03:31.530
T cells, all of your immune cells, right? And so
1237
01:03:31.690 --> 01:03:34.989
when it gets inside these cells, and you don't necessarily
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01:03:35.050 --> 01:03:36.590
have to see it on your blood work that you
1239
01:03:36.630 --> 01:03:41.719
have a quantitative deficiency, but you have a qualitative deficiency now.
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01:03:42.460 --> 01:03:45.539
So now you have spike inside these cells, and that's
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01:03:45.579 --> 01:03:49.360
why people can't fight off infection as well, right? So
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01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:54.190
think about it. Why are middle-aged adults getting RSV? Like
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01:03:54.510 --> 01:03:57.329
prior to the pandemic, nobody in their 40s or 50s
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01:03:57.570 --> 01:03:59.219
ever had RSV. I was going to say. And the
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01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:01.760
whole freaking town has it, right? Yeah. And what is
1246
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:05.900
this tripledemic of like people getting the flu, RSV, and
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01:04:05.940 --> 01:04:08.460
COVID all at one time? Like what is up with
1248
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:11.420
your immune system, right? And what is up with all
1249
01:04:11.460 --> 01:04:14.360
these people, like people that we're friends with that just
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01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.519
like are getting sick multiple times in the winter. Like
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01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:19.179
they had the flu, then they had COVID, then they
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01:04:19.219 --> 01:04:22.320
had three colds and they had bronchi, right? Why? And
1253
01:04:22.579 --> 01:04:25.300
also why it takes so much longer for the average
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01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:28.300
person to get over that virus or kick it when
1255
01:04:28.340 --> 01:04:32.619
they used to not be able to. Because our immune
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01:04:32.659 --> 01:04:36.269
cells have been impacted and affected in many people. And
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01:04:36.369 --> 01:04:40.389
so we have to rebuild our immune resilient, we have
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01:04:40.409 --> 01:04:43.239
to be in resilience and really rebuild and get rid
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01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:45.619
of those bad cells and bring the new cells back,
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01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:49.420
you know, without spiking it so that they can function properly.
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01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.179
What's the best way to build that immune resilience back
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01:04:53.460 --> 01:04:54.679
after exposure?
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01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:55.480
We're going to get there.
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01:04:55.860 --> 01:04:56.780
Okay. All right.
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01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.739
So that's like the end. So, so that, that covers
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01:04:59.780 --> 01:05:02.219
the immune. I didn't want you, we had to talk
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01:05:02.260 --> 01:05:06.219
about it, but yeah. And, and not to mention Dylan, like,
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01:05:06.659 --> 01:05:10.380
that also encompasses cancer. Like, why are we seeing so
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01:05:10.489 --> 01:05:13.010
many young, so everyone will say, oh, the cancer rate
1270
01:05:13.030 --> 01:05:14.750
was going up and up. Like, you know, it has
1271
01:05:14.769 --> 01:05:17.449
nothing to do with COVID, but no, that's BS. COVID
1272
01:05:17.489 --> 01:05:21.639
accelerated it. Like if you look, at how it jumped
1273
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:26.570
since 2020, 2021, compared to what the trajectory it was on.
1274
01:05:26.929 --> 01:05:30.150
And why are so many people, I have friends, friends
1275
01:05:30.210 --> 01:05:34.309
of friends, family, that were in complete remission from their cancers.
1276
01:05:34.889 --> 01:05:37.510
And now they have turbo stage four of that cancer.
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01:05:37.860 --> 01:05:41.659
They were in remission for 10, 15, 20 years. But now,
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01:05:42.019 --> 01:05:44.380
I don't know, how many coincidences can you have? I've
1279
01:05:44.420 --> 01:05:47.469
heard of 25 people in the last six months with
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01:05:47.510 --> 01:05:50.989
pancreatic cancer. The spike protein has a very high affinity,
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01:05:51.030 --> 01:05:54.079
and there's papers written on this too, of why it
1282
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:58.559
can cause pancreatic cancer. The spike protein takes out P53,
1283
01:05:58.699 --> 01:06:01.949
which is your tumor suppressor gene, right? That's your main
1284
01:06:01.989 --> 01:06:05.170
tumor suppressor gene. So that's what, I mean, I'm just
1285
01:06:05.190 --> 01:06:07.190
giving you a little, there's so many other reasons, like
1286
01:06:07.230 --> 01:06:11.050
in what it does to your interferon, interferon you know
1287
01:06:11.429 --> 01:06:13.849
one also like it all the things that would fight
1288
01:06:13.949 --> 01:06:17.280
or suppress cancers or suppress infections and all that stuff
1289
01:06:17.500 --> 01:06:21.260
are impacted by the spike protein okay does that make.
1290
01:06:21.099 --> 01:06:24.039
Sense yeah it does 100.
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01:06:23.300 --> 01:06:26.170
Let's quickly just talk about cardio and vascular because that's
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01:06:26.190 --> 01:06:33.320
yes why is the cardi, why is myocarditis, pericarditis, like,
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01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:37.679
why are all these young people dropping dead of heart
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01:06:37.699 --> 01:06:39.570
attacks or just getting heart attacks, right?
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01:06:39.590 --> 01:06:40.409
Yes, please.
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01:06:40.570 --> 01:06:42.670
Young ages, like, everyone comes up to me all the time, like,
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01:06:43.030 --> 01:06:46.110
oh my God, why, right? And not to mention, like,
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01:06:46.369 --> 01:06:50.829
the amount of athletes, especially in Europe, you know, in soccer,
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01:06:50.969 --> 01:06:55.039
football or soccer, football, football, soccer, you know, literally, like,
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01:06:55.409 --> 01:06:58.409
killing like dropping on the field you know and all
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01:06:58.429 --> 01:07:01.929
these young people it's like we've normalized young kids to
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01:07:01.969 --> 01:07:05.440
have cardiac arrest like on the soccer field and the
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01:07:05.500 --> 01:07:07.579
basketball I mean I don't know am I I know
1304
01:07:07.619 --> 01:07:09.579
I'm not the only one seeing this it's it's no
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01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:12.920
no and if you try to think before pre-pandemic like
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01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:15.199
that was like one in a million you know that
1307
01:07:15.260 --> 01:07:19.070
wasn't like story after story And so it's because the
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01:07:19.090 --> 01:07:24.730
spike protein embeds itself in the epithelium, in the endothelium, right?
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01:07:24.769 --> 01:07:27.429
And the endothelial cells are what is what makes up
1310
01:07:27.510 --> 01:07:31.869
your vasculature, right? And then especially, you know, if you
1311
01:07:31.889 --> 01:07:35.969
think about your cardiovascular system, I mean, vascular affects everything.
1312
01:07:36.010 --> 01:07:38.619
Like that's why there's a lot of issues with kidney
1313
01:07:38.659 --> 01:07:42.079
disease now. And, you know, it's everywhere. The cardiomyocytes are
1314
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:45.380
very sensitive to the spike protein. Those are your cells
1315
01:07:45.820 --> 01:07:46.260
in your heart.
1316
01:07:46.659 --> 01:07:46.940
Right.
1317
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:49.940
And so that's why we've seen such an uptick in
1318
01:07:49.980 --> 01:07:53.500
slew of myocarditis, pericarditis, you know, more in men, but
1319
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:55.980
even women. I mean, I had a female patient the
1320
01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:58.519
other day that's coming to me for long COVID. And
1321
01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:02.059
it all started after she had the I can't remember
1322
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:04.099
if it was a vaccine or the infection. And and
1323
01:08:04.219 --> 01:08:07.239
she had pericarditis. And then after that, it all went
1324
01:08:07.260 --> 01:08:10.780
to crap for her. And she's never been the same since.
1325
01:08:10.900 --> 01:08:13.829
She was hysterical, crying in my office. She's 25 years old.
1326
01:08:13.869 --> 01:08:16.550
She doesn't have a life. But anyway, that's why. It's
1327
01:08:16.569 --> 01:08:20.289
because you have this low-grade endotheliitis or inflammation of the
1328
01:08:20.329 --> 01:08:24.939
blood vessel wall that's activating platelets, you know, chemokines. Things
1329
01:08:24.979 --> 01:08:28.720
are coming, clots are forming, you know, things that shouldn't
1330
01:08:28.739 --> 01:08:32.960
be happening normally. And it's perpetuating, you know, an event,
1331
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:36.060
you know, and strokes, you know, strokes because of the
1332
01:08:36.100 --> 01:08:36.909
clotting as well.
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01:08:37.329 --> 01:08:37.590
Mm-hmm.
1334
01:08:38.789 --> 01:08:43.810
Okay. And vascular. So lastly, the vasculature. So what's happening?
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01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:46.659
So I feel like people have heard me talk about
1336
01:08:46.699 --> 01:08:48.399
these microcloths. Do you see these?
1337
01:08:48.699 --> 01:08:50.699
Yeah.
1338
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:55.189
Okay. So when the clotting cascade gets activated by this,
1339
01:08:55.529 --> 01:08:58.090
you know, by that, what I was explaining, that endothelitis,
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01:08:58.130 --> 01:09:00.829
that inflammation of the blood vessel wall, right? You have
1341
01:09:00.909 --> 01:09:05.109
all these platelets get activated, you know, the clotting cascade
1342
01:09:05.140 --> 01:09:09.340
gets activated and then these clots get formed and they're
1343
01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:12.300
sort of like a beta amyloid. That's why they're green.
1344
01:09:12.659 --> 01:09:16.380
This is amyloid. And this is under a fluorescent microscope.
1345
01:09:16.539 --> 01:09:20.800
So when those clots start to form, the normal mechanisms
1346
01:09:21.140 --> 01:09:25.199
that our body uses to break down clots, these clots
1347
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:29.630
are resistant to that. The process is called fibrinolysis. Our body,
1348
01:09:30.050 --> 01:09:34.130
it's resistant to typical mechanisms of fibrinolysis. It can't break
1349
01:09:34.210 --> 01:09:39.630
these down. So prior to the pandemic, Raisa Pretorius, I
1350
01:09:39.670 --> 01:09:42.109
don't want to mess up her name. She's in, you know,
1351
01:09:42.149 --> 01:09:47.409
major academic institution in South Africa. She's protocolized microcloths. And
1352
01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:51.619
microcloths in normal people are, I mean, in a healthy
1353
01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:54.319
person are normal to a very certain extent. You could
1354
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:57.979
get this protein misfolding where you have these beta amyloid,
1355
01:09:58.060 --> 01:10:01.510
this beta, but very minimal, right? So on a grading
1356
01:10:01.569 --> 01:10:04.149
scale of one through four, like a healthy person might
1357
01:10:04.189 --> 01:10:05.329
be a one or two. Sure.
1358
01:10:05.350 --> 01:10:05.569
Right.
1359
01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.649
And then she looked at patients that were very, very
1360
01:10:08.779 --> 01:10:13.210
ill with like end-stage diabetes, like refractory heart failure, you know,
1361
01:10:13.289 --> 01:10:16.449
very sick, ill patients. And they make these. And then
1362
01:10:16.489 --> 01:10:20.350
they found that patients that didn't get over COVID were
1363
01:10:20.409 --> 01:10:25.829
making these also. Okay. And so this should look black.
1364
01:10:25.850 --> 01:10:28.529
You see, like, it really should look black like that.
1365
01:10:28.899 --> 01:10:32.020
And you see all this lighting up? Yeah. Right. Right.
1366
01:10:32.390 --> 01:10:34.829
So that you need a fluorescent microscope, which is a
1367
01:10:34.850 --> 01:10:37.289
very expensive piece of equipment. And only three people in
1368
01:10:37.310 --> 01:10:41.930
the U S are trained by, uh, Pretoria by Lisa.
1369
01:10:41.989 --> 01:10:47.310
This patient has many like everywhere. And so, and she's
1370
01:10:47.329 --> 01:10:52.810
a grade 3.5 out of four. Oh, so that's not normal.
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01:10:53.100 --> 01:10:55.739
So the, the other goal is like, we need, we
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01:10:55.779 --> 01:10:59.550
need to, Like everyone's like, oh, give triple anticoagulation. That
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01:10:59.590 --> 01:11:01.609
can help break them up. Maybe to a certain degree.
1374
01:11:01.649 --> 01:11:04.939
I'm not saying it can't. Again, they're resistant. They're not
1375
01:11:05.020 --> 01:11:08.479
regular clots. They're beta amyloid clots. You know, they're not regular.
1376
01:11:08.819 --> 01:11:11.199
Like when a person like presents with a clot, you know,
1377
01:11:11.220 --> 01:11:14.340
like a pulmonary embolism or DVT, you know, prior to
1378
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:16.590
the pandemic, those clots are not made of that. This
1379
01:11:16.670 --> 01:11:19.630
is a different, you know, these clots are different. So
1380
01:11:19.949 --> 01:11:23.289
the normal mechanisms of how we would treat clots is
1381
01:11:23.390 --> 01:11:26.439
sort of like out the door, although triple anticoagulation band-aids
1382
01:11:26.569 --> 01:11:29.560
it and it will help, you know, with breaking up
1383
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:32.060
the clots, but it's not getting in the root cause
1384
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:33.539
because you're still going to make them because you didn't
1385
01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:34.619
get rid of the spike protein.
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01:11:34.819 --> 01:11:35.220
Right.
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01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:38.420
All right. So now we can talk about treatment. I
1388
01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:40.289
could talk to you for four hours about this, but
1389
01:11:40.329 --> 01:11:44.289
I just wanted to get a few of those points across. Okay.
1390
01:11:44.750 --> 01:11:47.829
so that you can sort of understand how it's such
1391
01:11:47.890 --> 01:11:51.789
a monster, right? The disease process itself and how the
1392
01:11:51.829 --> 01:11:55.399
spike protein and the virus behave, you know? And although
1393
01:11:55.409 --> 01:12:00.020
the virus is not pathogenic, meaning you're likely not going
1394
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.159
to wind up in the hospital, God willing, you won't.
1395
01:12:02.500 --> 01:12:06.279
But with each mutation, it becomes more and more transmissible
1396
01:12:06.659 --> 01:12:09.770
and more contagious. And the studies have shown that the
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01:12:09.810 --> 01:12:13.539
newer Omicron variants cause more damage to the heart. cause
1398
01:12:13.579 --> 01:12:16.369
more damage to the brain and it's happening at a
1399
01:12:16.529 --> 01:12:19.930
cellular level so it's almost like a silent killer because
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01:12:19.989 --> 01:12:23.310
we don't know it's really happening right when it's happening
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01:12:23.659 --> 01:12:25.100
so that's what's going.
1402
01:12:24.979 --> 01:12:29.939
On unbelievable pretty much okay well that's a lot are
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01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:34.119
you okay Well, it's just so much going on that
1404
01:12:34.180 --> 01:12:37.420
no one would ever have any clue about. Yeah, I'm
1405
01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:40.619
a little disturbed by everything, but I'm glad to know.
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01:12:42.500 --> 01:12:46.159
It's very troubling to really... Well, here's the two parts
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01:12:46.189 --> 01:12:48.170
that are troubling to me. One is the amount of
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01:12:48.489 --> 01:12:51.210
shit that's going on. But two, it's the lack of
1409
01:12:51.289 --> 01:12:54.090
amount of education that we actually have on this that's
1410
01:12:54.149 --> 01:12:57.170
actually discussed in this detail. I wouldn't have known a
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01:12:57.289 --> 01:12:58.090
fraction of this.
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01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:02.350
Yeah and and and not having the assays if you
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01:13:02.409 --> 01:13:05.329
could if people could test right because that's the other
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01:13:05.350 --> 01:13:08.369
thing too like it's like why did this woman after
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01:13:08.390 --> 01:13:10.189
the vaccine or after the virus all of a sudden
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01:13:10.210 --> 01:13:12.789
develop dementia out of nowhere or why did this person
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01:13:12.829 --> 01:13:15.229
develop or get a heart attack or why did this
1418
01:13:15.300 --> 01:13:17.920
person develop a crazy autoimmune disease or what like if
1419
01:13:17.979 --> 01:13:22.649
you could test and like Figure out that person's unique blueprint, right?
1420
01:13:23.430 --> 01:13:26.510
And figure out like, oh, okay, spike protein in this
1421
01:13:26.569 --> 01:13:29.810
person is living in these cells, right? It's throwing off
1422
01:13:29.909 --> 01:13:32.949
these types of toxin-like peptides and have this unique gut
1423
01:13:33.069 --> 01:13:37.199
immune imprint, that blueprint rather, that you can discover. Then
1424
01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:40.659
you can back into it with more personalized treatment for
1425
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:41.199
those people.
1426
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:43.939
Okay. Well, then let's talk about, we said we'd talk
1427
01:13:43.979 --> 01:13:46.140
about how to build back your immunity and then how
1428
01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:46.560
to treat.
1429
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:52.000
Yeah. So, OK, nothing's nothing's foolproof. Right. And of course,
1430
01:13:52.140 --> 01:13:55.460
I find that people with mild disease or people that
1431
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:58.680
feel good take care of themselves like someone like you, me. Right.
1432
01:13:59.100 --> 01:14:02.520
Like I keep myself on a low level protocol all
1433
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:04.760
the time. And then what I do is, is when
1434
01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:08.279
I get exposed, then I like ramp it up. Right.
1435
01:14:08.380 --> 01:14:08.640
Right.
1436
01:14:09.020 --> 01:14:11.149
You know, whatever. Even if I even if I'm not sure,
1437
01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:12.930
because right. Look what you just said, by the way,
1438
01:14:12.970 --> 01:14:15.430
you're like two of my tests were positive. And three,
1439
01:14:15.470 --> 01:14:17.989
if there wasn't just assume you have it and take it.
1440
01:14:17.989 --> 01:14:18.869
Yeah, absolutely.
1441
01:14:18.909 --> 01:14:21.630
Because here's the thing. People are getting infected with it
1442
01:14:21.689 --> 01:14:24.470
like two, three times a year. Right. And to be
1443
01:14:24.529 --> 01:14:27.909
quite honest with you, all of these compounds, these natural
1444
01:14:28.029 --> 01:14:33.600
polyphenols have great activity against a lot of viruses, RNA viruses,
1445
01:14:33.699 --> 01:14:36.090
all these things. So like, just take it. It's not
1446
01:14:36.109 --> 01:14:38.489
going to hurt you. And the vast majority of people
1447
01:14:38.529 --> 01:14:41.270
that get on these, these, you know, these different compounds
1448
01:14:41.310 --> 01:14:43.449
and things, they feel better so much faster, no matter
1449
01:14:43.489 --> 01:14:45.770
what they're, no matter what they're suffering from.
1450
01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:49.640
Right. Yeah. A hundred percent. Well, what I get, what
1451
01:14:49.699 --> 01:14:51.880
I ran from you work like a charm. So let's
1452
01:14:51.939 --> 01:14:54.680
just get into, let's talk about what you put me on.
1453
01:14:54.699 --> 01:14:58.239
Let's talk about prophylactics first, right? Let's talk about it. Like,
1454
01:14:58.300 --> 01:15:00.699
it's so silly, like not to, Okay.
1455
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:04.579
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What is prophylactic? Not everybody knows. Okay.
1456
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:05.319
Prevention.
1457
01:15:05.579 --> 01:15:05.819
Right.
1458
01:15:06.140 --> 01:15:07.760
I told you to yell at me. I know.
1459
01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:09.000
Well, not everybody knows.
1460
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:10.890
So I want you to yell at me. That's what
1461
01:15:10.930 --> 01:15:15.750
I told you. So let's talk about prevention. Right. So
1462
01:15:15.789 --> 01:15:21.079
how can we prevent ourselves from getting sick or, you know, So, okay.
1463
01:15:21.300 --> 01:15:25.029
First of all, you want to have adequate vitamin D levels, right?
1464
01:15:25.069 --> 01:15:27.270
You have a vitamin D receptor for everything. Every cell
1465
01:15:27.289 --> 01:15:29.369
in your body has vitamin D receptors and we know
1466
01:15:29.409 --> 01:15:32.399
that it helps. It's an antimicrobial, all that stuff. I'm
1467
01:15:32.439 --> 01:15:36.000
a big believer too, if you're a middle-aged adult, you
1468
01:15:36.220 --> 01:15:38.539
start to lose your melatonin starting at the age of
1469
01:15:38.579 --> 01:15:41.770
like 18, 19 years old, right? Melatonin is a hormone,
1470
01:15:42.029 --> 01:15:45.989
and yes, it helps regulate our circadian rhythms, our circadian clock,
1471
01:15:46.050 --> 01:15:52.060
but it also is a very, very potent antioxidant, antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory.
1472
01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:56.079
And the studies that we looked at really show that
1473
01:15:56.140 --> 01:15:59.060
it helps restore health and balance to that blood-brain barrier.
1474
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:03.829
It helps repair the astrocytes. And the glymphatic system. So
1475
01:16:04.050 --> 01:16:07.670
I'm a big proponent of melatonin. You know, I have
1476
01:16:07.789 --> 01:16:11.529
no issue sleeping, but I take three milligrams at night. Yeah,
1477
01:16:11.569 --> 01:16:11.890
why not?
1478
01:16:12.090 --> 01:16:14.590
Well, everybody thinks it's only for sleeping. And I'm glad
1479
01:16:14.630 --> 01:16:16.529
you just brought that up because that's just not the
1480
01:16:16.550 --> 01:16:17.609
case at all.
1481
01:16:17.649 --> 01:16:22.729
Yeah, it's like, it's so powerful. It's funny, Dylan. At
1482
01:16:22.770 --> 01:16:25.810
the beginning of the pandemic, I was obsessed with COVID
1483
01:16:25.850 --> 01:16:28.229
and I actually thought I had it. And then they
1484
01:16:28.250 --> 01:16:31.520
didn't let me, so I got sick. Right at the beginning,
1485
01:16:31.529 --> 01:16:36.819
because I took a trip to another functional medicine practice
1486
01:16:36.859 --> 01:16:39.359
that I was whatever I was talking to them. And,
1487
01:16:39.699 --> 01:16:41.720
you know, you know, they were gracious enough to let
1488
01:16:41.739 --> 01:16:44.020
me come. And I debated getting on the plane and
1489
01:16:44.050 --> 01:16:46.310
I was like wrapped like five thousand times around with
1490
01:16:46.350 --> 01:16:48.649
my scarf. And I I knew it was coming. It
1491
01:16:48.670 --> 01:16:50.250
was the very beginning of March. But I had been
1492
01:16:50.289 --> 01:16:53.949
following it from like January in China because my my.
1493
01:16:55.170 --> 01:16:57.899
husband at the time, he was also doing a lot
1494
01:16:57.909 --> 01:17:00.619
of business in China. So he was getting pictures and
1495
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.380
videos and all the craziness that was going on there.
1496
01:17:03.420 --> 01:17:05.260
So I was like, oh, my God, like, there's no
1497
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:06.239
way it's not coming here.
1498
01:17:06.420 --> 01:17:07.119
You know, right.
1499
01:17:07.300 --> 01:17:10.720
Anyway, so I had this, this feeling that right around
1500
01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:12.500
that my trip, it was like, it was, it was
1501
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:15.100
like any day, which it was, because like the next
1502
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:16.960
week it came. So I was so I wouldn't even
1503
01:17:17.020 --> 01:17:19.039
use the bathroom, nothing. I was like, just like this.
1504
01:17:19.239 --> 01:17:21.539
But anyway, I got sick, there was this guy coughing
1505
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:24.859
all like insanity, like three rows in front of me.
1506
01:17:24.890 --> 01:17:26.329
And I'm like, I'm totally going to get it. So
1507
01:17:26.409 --> 01:17:28.670
four days later I get sick. And at that point
1508
01:17:28.710 --> 01:17:31.789
that at that point, the incubation period was like four to,
1509
01:17:31.949 --> 01:17:33.829
you know, four to seven days. And I got this
1510
01:17:33.890 --> 01:17:36.390
horrible upper, I didn't get a cough. I didn't de-sat
1511
01:17:36.449 --> 01:17:37.939
nothing like that, but I had a horror. I never
1512
01:17:37.979 --> 01:17:40.159
really get sick. And I was like such a terrible
1513
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:43.420
upper respiratory thing, but like awful, you know? And they
1514
01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:44.939
wouldn't let me come back to work. Cause at that
1515
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:46.779
point when I was still sick, they were like, yep,
1516
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:48.039
you're not coming back to work. We don't know if
1517
01:17:48.060 --> 01:17:48.859
you have COVID or not.
1518
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:49.439
Right.
1519
01:17:49.779 --> 01:17:54.010
I was home. obsessed with COVID, like attending like every,
1520
01:17:54.329 --> 01:17:58.949
like any like world renowned virologist from Italy, Germany, wherever
1521
01:17:58.970 --> 01:18:01.930
it was like on, on the zoom, you know, on
1522
01:18:01.949 --> 01:18:07.130
the webinar, like try and understand how this freaking virus works. Like,
1523
01:18:07.470 --> 01:18:11.409
you know, learning about the receptor binding domain, the furin cleavage,
1524
01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:13.939
like anything, you know, and like all these words were like,
1525
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.659
you know, I'm not an immunologist or a virologist, but
1526
01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:19.399
I became one really fast. So I like, So I
1527
01:18:19.420 --> 01:18:21.979
learn all this stuff and then I write this primer,
1528
01:18:22.020 --> 01:18:24.100
but no one knows who I am. So it's like,
1529
01:18:24.140 --> 01:18:26.279
I put it on my, like on my terrain site
1530
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:28.270
and I'm like, Oh, maybe my friends and family read it.
1531
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:31.890
And it's every like natural compound, like, and it talks
1532
01:18:31.899 --> 01:18:35.909
about melatonin, like every single thing that works, you know,
1533
01:18:35.989 --> 01:18:39.329
cause these compounds like really work synergistically and they work
1534
01:18:39.430 --> 01:18:42.989
on a multitude of different pathways. Right. Yeah. How they,
1535
01:18:42.989 --> 01:18:47.779
block the receptor binding domain so that the virus can't
1536
01:18:47.779 --> 01:18:51.180
you know, get inside the cell and how it blocks
1537
01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:53.869
the fear and cleavage so that so that you can't
1538
01:18:53.909 --> 01:18:56.430
split into S1 and S2 and the virus, you know,
1539
01:18:56.470 --> 01:18:57.529
like all those things.
1540
01:18:57.590 --> 01:18:57.829
Right.
1541
01:18:58.189 --> 01:18:59.909
And I wrote about it. It's still on my site.
1542
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:02.640
But anyway, melatonin is a big part of it. And
1543
01:19:02.699 --> 01:19:05.739
so there's this amazing graph on melatonin where it looks
1544
01:19:05.779 --> 01:19:08.609
like this. It's like it's like swooping like this and
1545
01:19:08.689 --> 01:19:11.369
swooping like this. And it shows you that how when
1546
01:19:11.609 --> 01:19:15.909
as you lose melatonin, right, for each decade, you lose
1547
01:19:16.270 --> 01:19:19.390
so much melatonin. How you're, you have such a much
1548
01:19:19.430 --> 01:19:22.850
more increased risk of dying from COVID or getting COVID
1549
01:19:23.010 --> 01:19:27.029
or really any virus or deadly virus for that matter, right?
1550
01:19:27.149 --> 01:19:30.529
And it's because that's why the kids did so well,
1551
01:19:30.890 --> 01:19:34.069
you know, and were barely sick or asymptomatic because likely
1552
01:19:34.130 --> 01:19:35.550
because they have such high melatonin.
1553
01:19:35.569 --> 01:19:36.140
High melatonin, got it.
1554
01:19:36.189 --> 01:19:38.630
There's like a strong correlation, right?
1555
01:19:38.909 --> 01:19:39.390
Okay.
1556
01:19:39.529 --> 01:19:40.989
Yeah, you want melatonin. Okay.
1557
01:19:41.020 --> 01:19:41.300
Okay.
1558
01:19:41.939 --> 01:19:44.199
So, okay. So I don't even know why. Okay.
1559
01:19:44.220 --> 01:19:46.439
We got vitamin D and we got melatonin.
1560
01:19:46.460 --> 01:19:50.439
Right. So I give, I give a combination zinc CD
1561
01:19:50.819 --> 01:19:54.260
because for several reasons, all three of them are really
1562
01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:56.819
important for your gut microbiome. And we know that the
1563
01:19:56.840 --> 01:19:59.640
gut microbiome, like, well, I guess it's not fully because
1564
01:19:59.659 --> 01:20:01.300
I didn't go into a whole thing about it, but
1565
01:20:01.420 --> 01:20:05.380
that's like ground zero, right? Like the phages, the bacteria
1566
01:20:05.420 --> 01:20:08.239
phages are there, they're throwing off all these toxin like peptides.
1567
01:20:08.260 --> 01:20:11.560
You got really crazy leaky gut. It's, it's a disaster
1568
01:20:11.619 --> 01:20:15.119
in there. You know, so you have to kill the
1569
01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:18.439
bacteriophages also. Oh, wait, no, no, we're talking about prevention.
1570
01:20:18.579 --> 01:20:21.520
Don't go there yet. Okay, so go back to immune resilience.
1571
01:20:21.579 --> 01:20:24.260
So prevention. So zinc CD is great because that's going
1572
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:27.960
to help not only with keeping your intestinal mucosal barrier
1573
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:31.300
in check, but also it helps grow bifido. The C
1574
01:20:31.659 --> 01:20:34.260
especially helps with bifidobacteria growth. Okay.
1575
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:37.220
So zinc CD is that zinc, vitamin C and vitamin D.
1576
01:20:37.279 --> 01:20:37.840
Is that correct?
1577
01:20:37.899 --> 01:20:38.119
Yeah.
1578
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:40.420
Like it's, I, there's one that I found that has
1579
01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:43.140
all three of them in it. So great. So I
1580
01:20:43.180 --> 01:20:44.859
love that. And then some people would be like, oh
1581
01:20:44.890 --> 01:20:46.510
my God, there's no K2 in it. So then I'm like,
1582
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:48.109
cause they need D with the K. So I'm like,
1583
01:20:48.130 --> 01:20:50.770
get a little K2, like life extension has a K2.
1584
01:20:50.869 --> 01:20:54.189
It's fine. Okay. That's for prevention. Definitely. I think you
1585
01:20:54.210 --> 01:20:56.550
should just always be on some zinc CD. I just do.
1586
01:20:56.770 --> 01:20:57.010
Yeah.
1587
01:20:57.029 --> 01:20:57.710
A hundred percent.
1588
01:20:57.949 --> 01:20:59.430
And as long as you're not on too much zinc,
1589
01:20:59.470 --> 01:21:02.090
cause people always worry about like copper depletion, like you
1590
01:21:02.109 --> 01:21:04.090
should be okay. Like I don't like not more than
1591
01:21:04.090 --> 01:21:04.909
30 milligrams.
1592
01:21:05.329 --> 01:21:06.149
Okay.
1593
01:21:06.489 --> 01:21:12.119
So, and then I take the rhizo prophylactically also because it,
1594
01:21:12.550 --> 01:21:15.909
it has antimicrobial properties as well because what the sore
1595
01:21:15.989 --> 01:21:18.729
formers do, you know, and they have sort of like
1596
01:21:18.949 --> 01:21:22.699
quorum sensing capabilities, these, these specific types of bacteria. So
1597
01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:25.000
they know sort of where to like help fight infection
1598
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:29.800
and things like that. And then I also, the Medicinals 9.
1599
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:35.510
So the Medicinals 9 was patented. and formulated by the
1600
01:21:36.390 --> 01:21:38.949
guys I've done research with and worked with and I've
1601
01:21:38.970 --> 01:21:42.289
learned so much from back in January of 2020. They...
1602
01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:47.779
You know, Joachim Gerlach, he studied all of the different
1603
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:50.600
pathways and figured out there was these 250 to 300
1604
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:55.880
different pathways being impacted by SARS-CoV-2, right? And so what,
1605
01:21:55.979 --> 01:21:58.220
and then he looked at all the pathways and every
1606
01:21:58.300 --> 01:22:01.699
single thing that's impacted by the virus and then backed
1607
01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:05.479
in with the different types of natural compounds or polyphenol
1608
01:22:05.539 --> 01:22:09.199
compounds that can work synergistically on a multitude of all
1609
01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:13.850
these pathways, right? At the same time. Got it. has,
1610
01:22:14.210 --> 01:22:16.470
you know, and he formulated in such a way that
1611
01:22:16.510 --> 01:22:22.729
the bioavailability is much better, the way it's formulated. So
1612
01:22:22.770 --> 01:22:26.329
it's absorbed a lot better than like if you took
1613
01:22:26.369 --> 01:22:29.170
like a regular capsule of that same thing. And so
1614
01:22:29.189 --> 01:22:31.210
you don't even need as high of a dose and
1615
01:22:31.250 --> 01:22:36.770
things like that. So it has, you know, quercetin, rutin,
1616
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:44.569
You know, glycerin, hesperidin, bacillin, curcumin. I'm not going to...
1617
01:22:44.569 --> 01:22:47.430
I always... It's like, am I going to... Did I
1618
01:22:47.449 --> 01:22:51.170
say quercetin, rudin? I can't remember everything. Oh, piperine. Yeah.
1619
01:22:51.189 --> 01:22:53.810
I'm forgetting one other one. Anyway, the point is, is
1620
01:22:53.850 --> 01:22:57.520
that I... Love this product. I love it to help
1621
01:22:57.659 --> 01:23:01.100
build immune resilience. I love it for the gut. I
1622
01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:04.340
love it for general inflammation. You know, people that have
1623
01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:06.840
gone on it, even that have joint pain and joint inflammation,
1624
01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:10.000
say it helps them. You know, it helps reduce the
1625
01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:13.729
inflammation and the pain because of what those polyphenolic compounds do.
1626
01:23:13.750 --> 01:23:15.270
Okay, got it.
1627
01:23:15.369 --> 01:23:16.970
And I would say, I just want to preface it
1628
01:23:16.989 --> 01:23:20.060
like this. The Europeans and the Asians do much better
1629
01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:23.100
with this product because they're used to having this in
1630
01:23:23.140 --> 01:23:25.829
their diet and eating a certain way. Some of the
1631
01:23:26.149 --> 01:23:28.789
Americans are very sensitive when they start this product. So
1632
01:23:28.829 --> 01:23:31.250
I would tell you when you start to go low,
1633
01:23:31.329 --> 01:23:35.649
go slow. People that eat a very clean diet, that
1634
01:23:35.689 --> 01:23:39.609
have a really good strong gut microbiome, things like that,
1635
01:23:40.449 --> 01:23:43.170
they tolerate it much better. But very sick people, more
1636
01:23:43.210 --> 01:23:45.310
sensitive people, people that are used to eating more of
1637
01:23:45.340 --> 01:23:47.479
the standard American diet, It takes them a while. It
1638
01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:49.170
takes them a little bit to get used to it,
1639
01:23:49.300 --> 01:23:49.579
you know?
1640
01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:50.000
Okay.
1641
01:23:50.220 --> 01:23:52.579
So anyway, I take it a few days a week
1642
01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:56.180
with the rhizo as my preventative, right? And then if
1643
01:23:56.380 --> 01:23:59.199
I feel like something's coming on or I'm getting sick,
1644
01:23:59.399 --> 01:24:02.260
I then start taking it like the, the medicinals like
1645
01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:05.260
twice a day, every day. And the rhizo once a day,
1646
01:24:05.300 --> 01:24:10.600
every day. Anyway, so zinc CD, the rhizo, the medicinals,
1647
01:24:10.739 --> 01:24:12.739
and then, you know, I take a, you know, I
1648
01:24:13.130 --> 01:24:15.029
You know, other things that you would take for your
1649
01:24:15.069 --> 01:24:18.529
immune system. You know, like some people like black, you know,
1650
01:24:18.569 --> 01:24:21.829
black seed, the black, what is it? Black seed, black
1651
01:24:21.869 --> 01:24:24.909
seed oil, right? The black seed oil, yeah. Yeah, the black. So,
1652
01:24:25.020 --> 01:24:27.840
you know, I love, I also like omegas. I use
1653
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:32.579
a plant-based omega. I think that that's really good for
1654
01:24:32.619 --> 01:24:36.479
so many different things. Cardiovascular inflammation, your gut, all the
1655
01:24:36.520 --> 01:24:40.140
things too. What else do I take? I take, what
1656
01:24:40.180 --> 01:24:40.619
do you take?
1657
01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:41.300
Daily?
1658
01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:42.039
Yeah.
1659
01:24:42.970 --> 01:24:46.409
Um, I, what don't I take daily? I, I have
1660
01:24:46.430 --> 01:24:48.670
a pretty extensive list of things I tried to cut
1661
01:24:48.710 --> 01:24:50.670
down cause I was taking too much, but curcumin is
1662
01:24:50.710 --> 01:24:52.670
a big one that I take every day or turmeric.
1663
01:24:52.789 --> 01:24:54.850
Right. And that's in the medicinal.
1664
01:24:55.029 --> 01:24:58.170
Yeah. I take natto kinase, but that's for more for
1665
01:24:58.189 --> 01:25:01.220
my heart, you know, with everything that I do. I
1666
01:25:01.260 --> 01:25:04.300
do a dandelion root daily because I want the natural.
1667
01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:05.640
I love that. Yeah.
1668
01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:08.260
Just getting rid of excess water in the natural way
1669
01:25:08.340 --> 01:25:11.420
of natural diuretic wise. So I like to get rid
1670
01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:15.310
of that. Dr. Gundry had me start taking something because
1671
01:25:15.350 --> 01:25:18.119
I had told him about my LP little a citrus bergamot.
1672
01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:20.680
I started. Yeah. Yeah.
1673
01:25:21.020 --> 01:25:22.619
You know, what works great for life away is the
1674
01:25:22.720 --> 01:25:25.960
one MNA. Betsy talks about that a lot too. Yes.
1675
01:25:26.380 --> 01:25:29.000
You know, it's very hard to get my life away
1676
01:25:29.020 --> 01:25:33.579
is elevated also. And interestingly, post COVID and I, there's
1677
01:25:33.699 --> 01:25:36.439
studies written on this. I did a major literature search.
1678
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:39.739
The life away goes up. Not just because you have
1679
01:25:39.779 --> 01:25:42.859
the genetic, it's up because I noticed that way more
1680
01:25:42.899 --> 01:25:45.579
than 20% of the population, or at least what I'm
1681
01:25:45.699 --> 01:25:50.050
seeing in even my regular longevity patients, their life OA
1682
01:25:50.100 --> 01:25:52.979
is up. And the life OA goes up because of
1683
01:25:53.020 --> 01:25:56.289
what's happening with this endotheliitis and what I was talking about.
1684
01:25:56.470 --> 01:26:00.270
And there's papers now even a year out that show
1685
01:26:00.449 --> 01:26:03.829
it's elevated. It still will remain elevated. So the life
1686
01:26:03.890 --> 01:26:05.449
OA is a problem here too.
1687
01:26:06.189 --> 01:26:09.409
I've gotten mine from 330 down to 96 the last
1688
01:26:09.449 --> 01:26:10.649
time I checked it. What?
1689
01:26:10.810 --> 01:26:11.630
With the Bergamot?
1690
01:26:12.090 --> 01:26:12.329
No.
1691
01:26:12.850 --> 01:26:14.369
That is with.
1692
01:26:14.390 --> 01:26:16.829
I take Repatha and Vesepa and then.
1693
01:26:16.970 --> 01:26:19.109
You're taking Repatha. Yes.
1694
01:26:19.380 --> 01:26:22.100
But I've also done it with some natural thing. I
1695
01:26:22.140 --> 01:26:25.479
have a natural protocol that I've utilized. I did take
1696
01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:27.539
Niacin for a while. I stopped because I think that
1697
01:26:27.579 --> 01:26:29.060
was elevating my liver too much.
1698
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:29.359
Right.
1699
01:26:29.460 --> 01:26:33.170
And the Niacin, I've never seen it work really great before.
1700
01:26:33.250 --> 01:26:39.520
No. I do... I do... Pomegranate juice is one of
1701
01:26:39.529 --> 01:26:41.859
the things that I do that's one of my secret sauces.
1702
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:44.439
I love pomegranate juice. I drink it here too in
1703
01:26:44.460 --> 01:26:44.859
my house.
1704
01:26:45.180 --> 01:26:47.060
Well, when I get that clearly done, that's going to
1705
01:26:47.100 --> 01:26:47.760
tell me a lot.
1706
01:26:48.140 --> 01:26:49.939
I know, I can't wait for you to get that clearly.
1707
01:26:50.140 --> 01:26:50.880
Yes, me too.
1708
01:26:50.899 --> 01:26:54.789
The Repatha has, you know, it has been, maybe the
1709
01:26:54.829 --> 01:26:56.829
combination with the other things you're doing, but the Repatha
1710
01:26:56.869 --> 01:26:59.390
itself has been shown to reduce the life away by 30%.
1711
01:26:59.390 --> 01:27:03.069
Yeah, Repatha and Vasipa both are 25 to 30%. And
1712
01:27:03.729 --> 01:27:06.380
I'm just kind of waiting for the, Eli Lilly's got
1713
01:27:06.399 --> 01:27:08.659
the one in trial that supposedly is doing like a
1714
01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:09.560
90 to 95%. Oh my God.
1715
01:27:09.659 --> 01:27:11.279
I'm going to have to go on that.
1716
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:12.039
Yeah.
1717
01:27:12.220 --> 01:27:13.699
All right. So anyway, I didn't mean to digress. So yeah.
1718
01:27:13.739 --> 01:27:17.159
And then, Oh, another, another thing too, is your B vitamins,
1719
01:27:17.180 --> 01:27:21.640
like a good B complex because so many people carry or,
1720
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:25.569
or either heterozygous or homozygous for the MTHFR mutation. They
1721
01:27:25.630 --> 01:27:28.310
either have one gene or both genes. And that also,
1722
01:27:28.369 --> 01:27:31.229
I feel like sets people up for the problems with,
1723
01:27:31.699 --> 01:27:34.520
You know, you know, COVID and post-COVID conditions because they
1724
01:27:34.579 --> 01:27:39.100
can't detoxify and move out the cytokine also or the virus.
1725
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:42.859
So I think, you know, that is another really important
1726
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:44.460
piece of the puzzle as well.
1727
01:27:44.539 --> 01:27:48.199
So this is our immunity builder prevention type of deal.
1728
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:50.779
And then, oh, wait, I have a few other little pearls.
1729
01:27:51.149 --> 01:27:55.789
So using povidone iodine, you know, like maybe before you
1730
01:27:55.850 --> 01:28:00.819
travel or before, you know, another repurposed drug, pentosin, some
1731
01:28:00.859 --> 01:28:03.380
of the compounding pharmacists make it in a nasal spray.
1732
01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:06.520
I think that's a great prophylactic because iodine you have
1733
01:28:06.539 --> 01:28:08.539
to be careful with, especially because if you use too
1734
01:28:08.579 --> 01:28:11.109
much of the povidone iodine, it will get absorbed. I
1735
01:28:11.149 --> 01:28:13.869
worry about it in my thyroid patients, especially because it
1736
01:28:13.890 --> 01:28:16.609
can impact your thyroid. If you're just doing it like
1737
01:28:16.750 --> 01:28:18.270
every once in a while, it should be fine. You
1738
01:28:18.289 --> 01:28:20.270
don't want to use it for like, more than like
1739
01:28:20.529 --> 01:28:22.310
two weeks in a row or anything like that. But
1740
01:28:22.390 --> 01:28:25.770
when you're using it so much, even sporadically, I noticed
1741
01:28:25.789 --> 01:28:27.970
there were some issues with the thyroid function tests on
1742
01:28:27.989 --> 01:28:30.600
some of my patients when they were using a lot
1743
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:34.439
of the, you know. So I like, pentosin is a very,
1744
01:28:34.579 --> 01:28:38.319
it's a polysaccharide. It's a very, very strong binder to
1745
01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:42.500
spike protein. Very. And it also acts as a weak anticoagulant.
1746
01:28:42.659 --> 01:28:45.079
So when I put people on my, that see me,
1747
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:47.529
I use Pentacin a little bit of a higher dose
1748
01:28:48.090 --> 01:28:50.590
for those two reasons, for the systemic effects on what
1749
01:28:50.609 --> 01:28:52.970
it does on the spike protein, but as a prophylactic
1750
01:28:53.170 --> 01:28:58.310
for a nose, a nasal spray. then it will bind. Well,
1751
01:28:58.470 --> 01:29:03.050
it won't let the, the spike, you know, access the epithelial,
1752
01:29:03.100 --> 01:29:07.479
the mucosa. Remember it's here. It's your, it's your oropharynx,
1753
01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:11.020
how the virus, how the virus really, or any virus
1754
01:29:11.060 --> 01:29:15.279
gains access to you and starts replicating. So I, and lastly,
1755
01:29:15.340 --> 01:29:18.779
I'll say the, the, my group, the, the guys I
1756
01:29:18.819 --> 01:29:21.220
work with that have developed a lot of these, you know,
1757
01:29:21.260 --> 01:29:24.640
products they have, they worked on a nasal spray. And
1758
01:29:24.659 --> 01:29:28.329
I think it's, it's, They're trying to get it manufactured
1759
01:29:28.350 --> 01:29:30.149
in the U.S. And as soon as that's done, oh,
1760
01:29:30.170 --> 01:29:31.909
my God, I would give that to everybody. It's a
1761
01:29:31.930 --> 01:29:34.869
Medicinals 9 nasal spray. It's wonderful.
1762
01:29:35.130 --> 01:29:36.449
Okay, so that's kind of our.
1763
01:29:36.550 --> 01:29:39.989
Those are good prophylactic. Oh, and one more thing, ivermectin.
1764
01:29:40.090 --> 01:29:41.569
I'm going to just talk about ivermectin.
1765
01:29:41.770 --> 01:29:44.689
Well, that's where I was going next was to the ivermectin.
1766
01:29:44.729 --> 01:29:48.430
So let's go there. There's been, you know, whatever. It's
1767
01:29:48.470 --> 01:29:50.670
like so politicized. It's so sad.
1768
01:29:51.130 --> 01:29:54.369
Let's just talk facts and not bullshit. How about that?
1769
01:29:54.590 --> 01:29:55.930
So many papers.
1770
01:29:56.109 --> 01:29:56.470
Yeah.
1771
01:29:57.970 --> 01:30:00.109
So there have been so many papers. And then the
1772
01:30:00.189 --> 01:30:03.659
excuse that you hear in mainstream media or whatever is that, oh,
1773
01:30:03.699 --> 01:30:06.779
it wasn't powered enough. This was flawed. For all the
1774
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:09.159
flaws or whatever you want to have to say about
1775
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:11.819
the hundreds of studies that have been published all over
1776
01:30:11.859 --> 01:30:16.229
the globe showing the efficacy of ivermectin, right? And I'm
1777
01:30:16.270 --> 01:30:18.590
not saying that it should be used alone and it's
1778
01:30:18.649 --> 01:30:21.779
a panacea. Okay. I'm not. When you use it, it
1779
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:24.020
should be used in combination for treatment.
1780
01:30:24.189 --> 01:30:24.510
Okay.
1781
01:30:24.810 --> 01:30:28.069
But it really helps, right? For all of those studies,
1782
01:30:28.130 --> 01:30:31.010
the studies that were done in England and in the
1783
01:30:31.050 --> 01:30:34.609
United States that showed it wasn't efficacious. I want to
1784
01:30:34.729 --> 01:30:39.350
make this clear. Those studies were very flawed because when
1785
01:30:39.390 --> 01:30:43.409
they studied the ivermectin in the patients, okay, There were
1786
01:30:43.510 --> 01:30:47.560
so many different things, everything from the way they dosed it.
1787
01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:51.819
It was so underdosed. It's a weight-based dosing. It was
1788
01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:56.680
underdosed in the vast majority of all the patients receiving it, okay?
1789
01:30:57.020 --> 01:31:00.479
It was given the wrong way. You have to eat
1790
01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:05.270
it with food, especially like fat. It is much more bioavailable.
1791
01:31:05.550 --> 01:31:09.970
It was given on an empty stomach, okay? Mm-hmm. they
1792
01:31:10.130 --> 01:31:13.390
introduced it too late in many people. Like there's just so,
1793
01:31:13.430 --> 01:31:16.930
there were so many flaws in these major studies that fine.
1794
01:31:16.970 --> 01:31:18.770
If you want to say there were flaws in these studies,
1795
01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:20.909
you need to also, you know, man up and say
1796
01:31:20.939 --> 01:31:24.020
there were flaws in these studies, you know, that's not cool. Right.
1797
01:31:24.300 --> 01:31:28.359
But you have so many studies showing good outcomes. Like
1798
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:30.779
why would you not use it? It's safe. It is
1799
01:31:30.859 --> 01:31:33.619
so safe. It is such a safe medicine. It won
1800
01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:36.020
the Nobel peace prize in 2000. Is it 15 or 17? Yeah.
1801
01:31:39.810 --> 01:31:42.850
And it's not just an anti-parasitic. By the way, as
1802
01:31:42.890 --> 01:31:47.989
a gastroenterologist for 15 plus years, I used ivermectin a
1803
01:31:48.069 --> 01:31:51.829
lot to treat patients that had parasites. And I never,
1804
01:31:52.090 --> 01:31:54.250
ever heard of it being called a horse dewormer.
1805
01:31:54.609 --> 01:31:56.109
No, no.
1806
01:31:56.189 --> 01:31:59.229
You were able to like flip it on the mass
1807
01:31:59.270 --> 01:32:02.399
populace and say it's a horse dewormer. Like I never
1808
01:32:02.449 --> 01:32:04.479
even as a doctor heard it was used that way.
1809
01:32:04.520 --> 01:32:06.920
I didn't even know they used it in horses.
1810
01:32:07.310 --> 01:32:13.949
Well, Robin, it is a disruptor to the financial side of,
1811
01:32:14.130 --> 01:32:16.149
you know, big pharma, whatever the hell you want to
1812
01:32:16.170 --> 01:32:17.949
call it. I don't even like to say that because
1813
01:32:17.989 --> 01:32:21.329
it sounds so just blah. It's the drug companies. It's
1814
01:32:21.369 --> 01:32:24.329
a disruptor to the drug companies, which in turn, all
1815
01:32:24.350 --> 01:32:26.449
of the people they pay then go put out this
1816
01:32:26.630 --> 01:32:29.739
bullshit to try to convince people. And so everybody follows
1817
01:32:29.779 --> 01:32:32.439
suit like little sheep. without doing their research. And then
1818
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:34.579
what they tried to do, which they can't do anymore,
1819
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:36.939
is block us from talking about it. Now they can't
1820
01:32:36.979 --> 01:32:39.640
do that anymore. Now everybody knows, the secret's out.
1821
01:32:40.140 --> 01:32:44.210
So, okay. So the point is, is that as a
1822
01:32:44.310 --> 01:32:48.010
treatment in conjunction with other things, it could be wonderful.
1823
01:32:48.050 --> 01:32:51.810
That's first of all. Sure, yeah. But as a prophylactic,
1824
01:32:52.250 --> 01:32:55.510
I mean, I found the studies to be very compelling.
1825
01:32:55.970 --> 01:32:58.489
And then there was the one study done in Brazil.
1826
01:32:58.710 --> 01:33:01.189
Pierre Corey is an author on it. What's his name?
1827
01:33:01.220 --> 01:33:02.880
You know, there's a bunch of guys that were at
1828
01:33:02.909 --> 01:33:05.899
the FLCC that are on there too. And they looked
1829
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:12.439
at Brazilian people, like in the population that were given,
1830
01:33:12.460 --> 01:33:14.659
and they had two groups. They had a group that
1831
01:33:14.699 --> 01:33:17.979
was given it as a preventative, right? And they were
1832
01:33:18.060 --> 01:33:22.000
dosed weight-based at, 0.2 milligrams per kilogram, and they took
1833
01:33:22.060 --> 01:33:25.270
it twice a week, every other week, okay? And then
1834
01:33:25.310 --> 01:33:27.909
they had the control group that didn't take it at all,
1835
01:33:28.270 --> 01:33:31.970
all right? And even in the patients that were given it,
1836
01:33:32.329 --> 01:33:34.869
a lot of those patients, and they talk about this
1837
01:33:34.930 --> 01:33:38.289
in the study, weren't even compliant, right? But they were
1838
01:33:38.329 --> 01:33:40.720
taking it to some degree, whether it was one a
1839
01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:44.779
month or two, whatever, okay? And they found such a
1840
01:33:45.180 --> 01:33:50.880
marked statistical significance in everything from mortality, to having to
1841
01:33:50.920 --> 01:33:54.819
be in the ICU, to hospitalization or hospital length of
1842
01:33:54.840 --> 01:34:00.399
the hospital stay, actually getting the virus or not, or
1843
01:34:00.689 --> 01:34:02.390
if you got it, how many days you were sick.
1844
01:34:02.489 --> 01:34:06.449
Every one of those parameters performed, the people performed so
1845
01:34:06.489 --> 01:34:09.130
much better in the group that got it. And remember
1846
01:34:09.149 --> 01:34:12.430
where this comes from. The reason why they started using
1847
01:34:12.529 --> 01:34:17.010
it was because they you the some doctors globally were
1848
01:34:17.069 --> 01:34:20.529
really smart and were like, wow, nobody in Africa is
1849
01:34:20.609 --> 01:34:24.279
getting COVID. Why is that? Because or a lot of
1850
01:34:24.319 --> 01:34:26.840
people weren't right. And then they they figured out that
1851
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:30.199
these men, mostly men that were really not good, you know,
1852
01:34:30.220 --> 01:34:32.520
and they were, you know, most men did way worse
1853
01:34:32.579 --> 01:34:34.460
than women to write in the rest of the world.
1854
01:34:34.819 --> 01:34:38.199
They weren't getting it because They were getting it for
1855
01:34:38.539 --> 01:34:41.880
prevention of what's called river blindness. It's this, you know,
1856
01:34:41.939 --> 01:34:44.020
in the rivers, they pick up, I think from the
1857
01:34:44.060 --> 01:34:48.479
fish or in the river itself, a parasite that causes blindness.
1858
01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:51.859
And so they're dosed a few times a year, not
1859
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:54.180
like nearly as much as I'm just saying, but a
1860
01:34:54.220 --> 01:34:57.220
few times a year with this. And that was enough
1861
01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:02.050
to prevent like major outbreaks and disease. So that's how
1862
01:35:02.090 --> 01:35:02.859
it all came about.
1863
01:35:03.649 --> 01:35:04.470
Wow.
1864
01:35:04.750 --> 01:35:08.029
You know, guys like Pierre Corey and all these people that, God,
1865
01:35:08.229 --> 01:35:12.829
they were freedom fighters, right? Yeah. And they got such crap. But, like,
1866
01:35:13.050 --> 01:35:16.260
it's so sad. Because I will tell you, all of
1867
01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:18.920
the patients that I have had on it and then
1868
01:35:18.939 --> 01:35:21.319
the patients that I did treat with some of the
1869
01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:26.020
other things, they all did great, you know? Yeah. So.
1870
01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:28.600
Well, what I would like to do, since we're running
1871
01:35:28.659 --> 01:35:29.159
out of time.
1872
01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:30.460
Yeah, I'm sorry.
1873
01:35:30.500 --> 01:35:34.020
No, no, but... What I want to do is, if
1874
01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:36.100
you want to, and I'd love to do this, we'll
1875
01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:39.739
do a part two where we discuss long COVID, the vaccine,
1876
01:35:39.859 --> 01:35:42.789
and more on ivermectin in greater detail so we can
1877
01:35:42.829 --> 01:35:44.689
get into that and do a whole episode on that
1878
01:35:44.710 --> 01:35:46.729
because I think that that will be a good follow-up
1879
01:35:46.770 --> 01:35:48.859
to this where we kind of covered all of COVID.
1880
01:35:49.229 --> 01:35:51.750
what it was, how to treat it, all of that.
1881
01:35:51.770 --> 01:35:53.729
And then we can follow up with the second part
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and do all of that. Cause that'll be great.
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A big part of the, of the, of the segment
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in the beginning was gut stuff. So the last part
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I'll say is, is the treatment, right? Just really fast.
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So the really quick, I can do this in five minutes.
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So the idea is that you want to You have
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to do this safely and you have to have all
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the things on board sort of simultaneously. We just talked
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about proplastics. So this is more, we won't get into
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acute treatment. Acute treatment's different. We'll talk about that next time.
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But let's talk about if you go on to have
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long COVID or something, right? Or how could you maybe
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start to feel a little bit better or move the
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needle if you're not really that sick, right? So you
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want to mobilize spike protein. Okay, two things. You want
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to get the bacteria out of your gut, right? So
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the only studies to date, and I'm going to cringe
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when I say this, is using antibiotics to kill the
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bacteriophages because nothing else is going to kill the bacteria.
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There's probably some natural products and antimicrobials, but that wasn't studied.
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So Bronya et al., they studied it, and they showed
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that the amoxicillin, 875 twice a day for a week.
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If you're penallergic, Zithromax. 500 for the first day, 250
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for the next six days. Plus or minus, you can
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add Xifaxanin or Rifaxamin for those seven days. I don't
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tend to do it because I feel like when I'm
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using the medicinals, I use the medicinals in combination with
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the antibiotic and it works really good, you know, like
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acting more like Augmentin than Amoxicillin, if that makes sense.
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So that's how you kill the, that's how you can
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kill the phages. Okay. Okay. And then now you want
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to deal with spike protein. So, okay, you need to
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break open these senescent cells, right, with senolytics. You have
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to have binders on board that are then going to
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quickly bind the spike protein because remember what I told you,
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spike protein is a magnet for any cell. So any
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healthy cell in the area, that spike is going to
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then try to go find, attach to, and get into, right?
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So you have the binders on board, but you also
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have in the Medicinals 9, those compounds, many of them
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are receptor binding domain blockers. So they'll block healthy cells
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in the area. They'll block the receptor so that site
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can't get in, right? And then you also have a
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lot of, you don't want S1 to slip from S2,
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the furin cleavage, right? There's furin inhibitors built in also
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to the Medicinals 9. So you basically have the Medicinals
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9 as your backbone. Then you have the binders, the
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extra binder, which is the sequestral, and you have the senolytic.
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Eight of the nine polyphenol compounds in the Medicinals 9
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are also natural binders, and four of the eight are
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natural senolytics. But we put an extra product, which are
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binders on board. Okay. Like I think it might have zeolite, bucoidon, silica,
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and then the senolytic has very high dose resveratrol in
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it and fisetin. Okay. So those are, those are all
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on the MediCoreRx.com. So there's a, so I, so it's
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those plus the rhizo plus a melatonin, liposomal melatonin because
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of all, so that's, a core basic product that people,
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I mean, package that people can do to start maybe,
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you know, moving the needle and feeling better.
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Okay. Got it. Perfect.
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And that's what you're doing. You're basically mobilizing spike, binding spike,
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blocking any healthy cells in the area of receptors, right?
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So that the spike then doesn't, if it's not attached
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to a binder and it's free floating, it doesn't. And
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then you're moving it out of your body. You're peeing
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it out.
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Got it. Okay.
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Awesome. That's it.
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I got a ton of notes here.
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I feel like we digress so much, but we can
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talk more about it in detail. But that's the crux
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of it. But, you know, the sicker patients, EBU, you know,
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we just were coming out with a study and we
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could talk more about that when I see you again.
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That we proved that the EBU filters out the specific
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EBU that we use. filters out the spike protein and
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the toxin-like peptides. And when you do it the right
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way and dose them with the senolytics and the binders
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prior to the EBU, you can mobilize a lot of
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the spike out of the cells and then filter it out.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, there's so many things to talk about. I'm
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so sorry that we really digressed a lot.
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No, that's good. Yes. Excellent. I've got stacks of notes
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here to go through. I'm going to talk to you
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about later. For sure. Well, I really appreciate the insight
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because it's really, really priceless insight. And this is things
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you just don't hear. So it is really, really appreciated
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your time and your effort, especially in all of this.
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So thank you.
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Thanks, Dylan, for having me. I really loved being with you.
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It was super fun. Absolutely.
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Well, we'll talk about part two and setting that up
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and we'll work on some other things together, I'm sure.
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I'm sure, yeah.
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Tell everybody, I'll cite this in the notes, but what
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are the best places to follow your work or find
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you or contact you?
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So my Instagram is at Dr. like period or dot
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Robin Rose, R-O-B-I-N-R-O-S-E. My Facebook is the same without the
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dot at Dr. Robin Rose. I think my Twitter is
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the same too, like as the Instagram. And then our
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website is Terrain Health, like T-E-R-A-I-N Health. And then we
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did create this MediCore RX site for these different products
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to live on. And the zinc CDs, the other products
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are there too that we talked about too. So they
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all live there so that people can access them and
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get them if they want to start trying it.
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Excellent. Awesome. All right. Well, thank you again so much
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for your time. I'll note everything here to where to
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find and follow you and just Greatly appreciate having you here.
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So stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Gemelli
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and Dr. Robin Rose signing off.
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All right, everybody, welcome back to the Dylan Gemelli podcast.
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So we have a very, very, very exciting episode. time
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today that I have been waiting and looking forward to.
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So my guest today, she does quite a bit, and
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I've already learned a ton from her. I'm sure many
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of you have heard of her, but just some of
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her credentials first. She is a board certified specialist in
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gastroenterology and internal medicine. She has a bachelor's degree in
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behavioral neuroscience with honors from Lehigh University and a master's
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degree in neuropsychology from New York University. She also has
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a medical degree from the New York College of Osteopathic Medicine.
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And she is the CEO and founder of Terrain Health.
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And she did that because she wanted to practice healthcare,
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not sick care. And she's known for being an expert
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on the gut microbiome and long COVID. So we got
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a ton of stuff to get into today. So my friends,
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welcome Dr. Robin Rose.
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Thanks, Dylan, for having me. I really appreciate it. I'm
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so excited to be here with you. Educate your audience
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on all that we can talk about.
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100%. Well, everybody, I've had the blessing of knowing Robin
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now for several months, and she's going to be doing
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some tests on me as well and help me out
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with some things I have concerns about. And she is just,
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beyond being highly respected, just a wealth of knowledge. But
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beyond that, what I would say is just a huge
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breath of fresh air because of the way that she
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goes about her teaching, the compassion that she shows and
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the knowledge that she has. So we're going to dig
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into a lot of different topics today that I think
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some people are either scared to touch on or don't
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know a lot about, have misconceptions, have like hearsay things.
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let's first just kind of start with your background a
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little bit. Why gastroenterology? Why internal medicine? What turned you
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on to that? What fascinated you with that?
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it was funny. I actually thought I was going to
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maybe specialized in hematology, oncology. Then I thought I was
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going to do cardiology. And I landed on gastro because
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irritable bowel syndrome myself. Maybe that's TMI, but I did.
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a proceduralist. So you do upper endoscopies, colonoscopies. And you
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with the scope, like stop bleeding ulcers and take out
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really large masses or polyps that could turn into cancer
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or that maybe are cancer. And you have a lot
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able to utilize the instruments and do the procedure the
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correct way. So that's why I went into GI. And
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diagnose a lot of different conditions and diseases and obviously
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treat them. So that's why I chose it. Then it
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integrative world, right? Or the longevity stage. to transition. It
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was very natural for me to transition into being a
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that area. And also before I even went into the
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functional medicine space, I, you know, always gravitated towards treating
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in the conventional world, you know, my, my two senior
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partners who were both males, they were like, what are
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all these people? They're like, how are you getting them better? And,
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I was using all these things and they're like, what?
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and not symptomatic management pill for every ill you know
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Awesome so then and that's I align so well with people.
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I'm so blessed to talk to people like you. And
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that's why I gravitate to people like you that have
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something about it on your own and taken control of
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the situation and help people in the way that they
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really don't get it from normal healthcare. And so when
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a long time ago, correct?
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my fellowship and I started practicing- I started using probiotics
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and prebiotics, more probiotics. We don't learn about any of that.
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I don't know why, but I literally had a stack
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of papers this high of every article and any article
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I could get my hands on to basically understand why
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this helps people stay healthy, how it impacts your immune system, why...
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people that take probiotics or have a healthy gut microbiome,
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like have less days missed at work or less days
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of an illness when they get sick, if they're sick,
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you know, all these different things, right? And so I
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always had this knowledge to learn that type of medicine.
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a day, I say practicing McMedicine, right? Like a revolving
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door of patients in and out and only being able to,
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Terrain Health, you know, and that's how it started.
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I don't know. I think it's still working out, I guess,
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to some degree. You know, it wasn't, you know, it
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wasn't the best. My husband at the time was not
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happy about me.
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Well, you have to do what makes you happy and
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what fulfills you. And that's it. Otherwise, you're going to
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be miserable and resentful forever. So I can tell you
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right now, there's plenty of people thankful for what you do.
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where I was kind of going with the gut microbiome
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thing is it's gotten so more prevalently talked about and
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discussed now where people are realizing that that is one of,
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if not the key issue to almost every problem we have. Essentially,
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it's either a cell problem, and if it's not a
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problem with your cells, it's your gut, right? It's one
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of the two. Everything's originating from there. When do you
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think was the turn for that where that became... Because
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like for me, studying this and being around it, I
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was blessed enough when I met my wife, she was
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working at like a natural health place. But this man
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that was in there that everybody thought that was crazy
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that owned it. And this was like 2011 was way
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ahead of the curve and was talking about this. And
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I was like, what are you talking about? When she
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it's gotten so prevalent. When do you feel like it
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really took hold that? Okay. people are catching on. Now
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we understand this is really a significant issue to like
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Of all the problems. I, you know, so here's the thing.
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like 20, you know, 2019. Right. So, but if you
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space so much, like Mark Hyman and, you know, those,
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you know, those, they've been talking about the gut microbiome forever,
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you know, but I mean, I, I think especially since,
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you know, the pandemic, it's become very hot topic, you know,
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it's been published on mainstream media, you know, newspapers talked
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more often, particularly like probably in the last like five years.
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we think it is, and we noticed this, the vast
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majority of the population still doesn't understand or get it,
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nor does the conventional medical world either.
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that more people would be onto this now and understand it,
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especially with all the studies and the talk and the
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people behind it. But I guess the best we can
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do is just keep putting out the info. And I
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interviewed Dr. Gundry a couple of weeks ago. So, you know,
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we got into that heavy, you know, and yeah, it's,
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it's really nice to learn and understand the ways to
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combat this, the things to look for, because a lot
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of people don't know and they just start taking any
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probiotic under the sun. Don't even know what it does.
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mucosal barrier, right? Like really healing the leaky gut and
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getting the good bacteria to grow, right? You know, probiotics
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are great, you know, to a certain extent, and especially
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you have to be careful about which one you're using.
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of like, they go, they're like passing by, Deserting their effect,
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you know, and then they're leaving, right? It's more like
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the postbiotics, which are the metabolites that those good bacteria make.
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That's what's the most important. That's what is influencing structure, function,
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and influencing different systems in our body. It's really those
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metabolites or what I call the postbiotics.
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Okay, so let's do a rundown here. Let's try to
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give a good explanation because I can't, you know, there's
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not too many people that I could think of better
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than you to explain this and break this down for people.
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So let's do this. Let's make it as easy as possible,
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but still get into like the full rundown. One, how
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do we decipher if we have like a leaky gut issue?
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What are some either blood markers to look for or
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some side effects, trigger points, things like that? And then two,
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how do we go about addressing that issue?
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of all, I think the vast majority of the population,
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especially if you're living in the United States and eat
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a standard American diet, you have some form of leaky
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gut or at least a little bit of it. So
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cow and you live in a bubble and you eat
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grass all day, you probably have a little bit of
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a leaky gut. Because everything from, right, Dylan, from our exposome,
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like all the environmental toxins, glyphosate which is now pervasive
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it doesn't matter even if you're like not eating foods
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with glyphosate in it because that's being straight in this
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it's being sprayed even like on golf field like on
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golf courses you know and then it travels in the
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air and then we're inhaling it right So it's like
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all of those things are going to, you know, destroy
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the gut microbiome. Your refined sugar, ultra processed foods, alcohol,
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non-steroidal anti-inflammatories. I don't know, the list goes on and on.
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Forget about the course of the antibiotic, but one antibiotic,
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one dose of an antibiotic kills off thousands of the
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good friendly bacteria. So we're exposed all the time to
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all of these things, right? So that gut microbiome, which
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is obviously influenced heavily by our epigenetics, right? How we
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interact and adapt to the world around us is always,
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it's like in this dynamic state, right? So we're always
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trying to keep balance in that microbiome. That's how I
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think of it. So I think we all have to
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be doing something on some level, right? to keep the
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intestinal mucosal barrier intact and to keep really good balance
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in the gut, right? The good, the bad, and the
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friendly bacteria in check, okay? And in balance. So there's
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always stuff that you should be doing. Even not moving,
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you know, being sedentary, even smoking kills, you know, the tobacco,
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you know, that has a bad impact on the gut microbiome.
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Even when you have cortisol dysregulation and, you know, your
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vagal tone is poor, all of that is messing with
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the health of your gut and your gut, you know,
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your gut microbiome and that barrier. So you have to
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be working, unfortunately, because of the, you know, if we
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were hunter gatherers back in the day and we were
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going to sleep when, you know, when the sun went
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down and we're falling asleep in front of the fire
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that we lit naturally and we're just like eating off
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the land and the berries and the plants and, you know,
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hunting when we had to and being in feast or
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famine and all those things. We'd have really good gut
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microbiomes probably, but that's not how we evolved. And so
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based on how we've evolved, we now have to pivot
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and work harder at keeping ourselves healthier and keeping that
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gut microbiome healthier.
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Got it. Okay. Perfect. Yeah. A hundred percent. You're the expert.
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You can't ask me if it's okay.
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That makes sense. Like I was.
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No, I'm just, I'm yeah. A hundred percent. Absolutely.
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You were talking about prebiotics and postbiotics and all of
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those different things.
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Can we just give like.
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Yeah, you want to talk about that?
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I do because it's very confusing.
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Can you just say, okay, first of all, can you
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just say what the heck is a prebiotic and a postbiotic?
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And two, what do we need and what don't we need?
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Okay. So prebiotics are the food that the bacteria in
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your gut are feeding off of. And the interesting thing is,
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and you can look at this in a lot of
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different ways, but giving yourself a prebiotic or a specific
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prebiotic might not be good for one person, but be
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good for another person because you each have your own
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unique microbial blueprint, right? And so based on the bacteria
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that are there, what prebiotic is right for you, right?
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So I always say, you know, really having that beautiful
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diversified diet of all the colors of the rainbow, right? And,
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you know, sticking to either side of the grocery store,
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like where you're in the produce section or right, the meat,
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the fish and that stuff, like eating anything that man
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hasn't gotten in the way of and staying away from
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that standard American diet, you're going to give yourself the prebiotics,
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like from all the veggies and the fruit, you know,
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all those things, right? So you know, resistant starches, all
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that stuff is going to be really important in helping
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diversify and feed that microbiome. Sure, there's different things like
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inulin and so forth, you know, but again, it's you
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don't know what each person's blueprint is, right? Unless you
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test every single person and know that and then you
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can maybe match that prebiotic to the population that's, you know,
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living there. And of course, if you took maybe, you know,
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something that has a bunch of different prebiotics in it,
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that's always helpful, of course. But eating foods that specifically
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have these prebiotics in them. And, you know, at the
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end of the, you know, I could give you a
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list of like really good prebiotic like foods that give
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the microbiome that food that they need that like prebiotics
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in it is really healthy. I mean, the other thing
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that people talk about, too, are fermented foods. Yeah, yeah.
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Which are awesome, and they help feed the gut microbiome well,
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like kimchi and sauerkraut and kombucha and all those lovely things, right?
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Anything pickled, right? The problem is in this day and
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age and with all the chronic illness we're seeing, a
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lot of people are very sensitive to that, right? Mass
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cell activation, mass cell issues, histamine issues are like through
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the roof right now. So when you give yourself fermented foods,
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it's going to exacerbate that. So once you get your
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gut microbiome in balance again, right, and you've controlled for
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this mast cell or histamine issue, then it's okay to
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start bringing in those foods again so that you don't
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trigger that histamine response. So I digress. Sorry, but I
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just felt like I should say that.
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No, please.
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They are great. And then, okay, so those are your pre-eats.
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So that's your pre-eats.
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Your pre situation. Okay. Then you get to your probiotic.
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So you're pre and now you're pro. Yes. Probiotic are
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the bacteria, right? Those bacteria. So that's why when you
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take a probiotic, there's like so many different ones on
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the market. There's like every single one. you know, species
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of Lactobacillus or every single species of Bifidobacteria, right? And again,
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it's like, you want diversity, you want all those different things.
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thermophilus in it. And then you have, then you have
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your other class of probiotics, which are your spore forming
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bacteria are fantastic too. And a lot of people lean
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towards those because the spore former, right? Those, those are
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like the missing organisms, right? Like You know, spore form,
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these spore formers, those bacteria, a lot of them have
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been lost over the decades from urbanization, deforestation and industrialization. Right.
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So giving us back those those those types of bacteria
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are great. And then those help actually the other bacteria
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to grow. So that's why a lot of people do
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really well with those probiotics. So like Megaspore Biotic, for example,
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that's by Microbiome Labs. That's a great- Megaspore. Yeah. I
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think Zach Bush has his Ion, what is it? I
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forget his product. I use this other product I love
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called Rhizohelf, which is from unmined soil from South Africa.
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identified in this unmined soil. You can find unmined soil
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in different parts of the world. And it's wonderful. And
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because of what it's suspended in, and because of what
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it does once it gets into your body, it actually
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behaves as a pre, pro, and post biopsy. So anyway,
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there's lots of different things on the market like this
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that are super helpful, you know? And the probiotic, like
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I said, The spores are nice because they're sort of
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like getting in there and doing their job and getting
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those other bacteria to grow where maybe some of the
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other probiotics aren't sticking as much. But as they pass through,
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they're exerting their effect and they're getting those post metabolites
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to grow.
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Okay.
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I mean, to be synthesized. I don't know why I
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said grow. And the other thing I will say, I'm sorry,
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my head, I feel like I have all these things
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to tell you is When you take a probiotic too,
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in the probiotic is a prebiotic usually because the bacteria
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has to live inside the capsule and stay alive. So
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a lot of times when you're taking a probiotic, you
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have some prebiotic mixed in with the probiotic too.
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Okay. So is that confusing?
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Tell me.
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No, no. Well, okay. So like my mentor several years
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ago told me to take spore probiotics and I'm looking
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at this, like it's a foreign language, honest, just, I'm
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normally like really.
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Yes.
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We didn't get into the, like, what's the difference and why.
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So first, first question, if you're taking a spore probiotic,
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do you need to take a regular probiotic with that?
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Or are you getting what you need from that?
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You're likely getting what you need from it. but I
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will tell you this. I sometimes will add like, and
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this is just because I'm crazy, but so I test the,
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like I do a lot of tests. I was doing
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a lot of testing on the gut microbiome, like next
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generation sequencing shotgun, you know, like real stuff.
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Like, yeah.
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And, You know, it seems that in the post-pandemic world,
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after getting COVID or the vaccine, that the bifidobacteria species
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has been wiped out, okay? And even the phylum, so
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the phylum, which is the class, right, that all those
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different species and families of bacteria fall under, which is
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your actinobacteria phylum, that's wiped out in many people too,
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which is not good. Because if you don't have your
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bifidobacteria species, then your innate immunity, your innate immune response
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is going to suffer hugely. And also, those bifidobacteria also
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control a lot for the histamine response, too, and also
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help produce short-chain fatty acids, which is a host biotic
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or metabolite that's very important for a bazillion different things.
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So anyway, what was I saying? Oh my God. Now
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I like lost my train of thought. What were we
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talking about? Like, oh, the Bifido. Yeah. So I'll, so
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I've been giving people, so I'll have them take, let's
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say the spore forming like a mega spore or the rhizo.
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And then I'll have them do like true Bifido, like
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a true Bifido pro US enzymes make it. And I'll
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have them do that at night. Now, like I said,
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is it sticking? Maybe it's exerting its effect, whatever. I
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know US enzymes, they had told me back You know,
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a few years ago when I did a lot of
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work with them that they had tested it and they
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found that it was sticking, you know, like it was
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present in the gut. But, you know, probably not for
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long periods of time. But anyway, I want people to
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sort of build their Bifido back up. So I was
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throwing that in there too. But the four formers should
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theoretically get the Bifido to start to grow as well.
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Okay. So, so for somebody starting out to make it
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simple for them that really just taking a spore probiotic
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in the evening would be sufficient.
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I do.
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To make life easy. That's my.
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And then would you take that with, without food then?
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Is that, or with food or how do you do that?
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I mean, yeah. I mean, if you're taking antibiotics, you
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want to take it away from the antibiotic. I forget
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with Megas. Okay. better on an empty stomach. That's why
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it's better to take a bedtime, you.
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Know, basically. Yeah. Got it.
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Yeah, I think so.
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So empty stomachs, spore in the evening, that's a good
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way to get going. And then if that's not, if
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you're still having issues, then we would take a deeper
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dive and a deeper look then, correct?
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Right. But then we have to, we didn't, we didn't
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go to the postbiotics.
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Okay. Let's talk about that.
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Let's talk about the postbiotic. So the postbiotic, that means
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It's the stuff that the bacteria or the probiotics or
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the gut bacteria in your microbiome are synthesizing and making.
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So they synthesize and make thousands of metabolites, which significantly
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impact our health. And these metabolites cross the gut barrier
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and get into our bloodstream and impact other parts and cells.
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parts of our body and organ systems, right? And some
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brain barrier and, you know, and some metabolites could be
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good if they're coming from the right bacteria, but some
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could be bad.
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Right.
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And like, so for example, like LPS, right? Lipopolysaccharide, like
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everyone's heard of LPS. Like it's a, it's a marker.
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We look at lipopolysaccharide and that is bad. That means
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you have like a lot of bad, you know, gram
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negative bacteria living in your gut and it's secreting this
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bad metabolism, this bad, metabolite, right? But then you have
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amazingly fantastic metabolites, like your short chain fatty acids, which everyone,
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many people have heard of. So, and those short chain
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fatty acids like do a million different things, you know,
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everything from, you know, restoring health and balance to the
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integrity of the intestinal mucosal barrier, keeping intact, you know,
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the tight, you know, making sure the tight junctional proteins
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are functioning properly, cardiovascular health, metabolic health, Like all those things, right? Right.
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So that's what the post. So I believe that probably
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in the future, like products that really show efficacy, good
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efficacy with these postbiotics or these metabolites is where we're
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going to go. Because it's really that's the end result, right?
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That's the end game. It's not the fact that those
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bacteria are living there. It's what are they doing for
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us and what are they making for us? They're living
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there on purpose to make these things so that we
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are healthy.
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Right.
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Right. So it's going to be all much. I think
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it's going to be more about the post biotics or
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these metabolites.
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Got it.
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So. And there's this one I'm doing. I'm plugging for people.
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Not that I don't even know. I have no ties
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to any of these people, by the way. But so
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there's a wonderful product that I used for quite some
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time and I still use it. And it's called the antibiotics. Okay.
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And the antibiotic is all of the thousands of these
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postbiotics or these metabolites that we're talking about. So what
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they do is they get donor stool that's screened, right?
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And then they take the stool and they autoclave the
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crap out of it, right? So that then what's left,
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so all anything... any like protein or like any bacteria,
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it's all dead. Okay, so that's dead. And what's left
496
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are these beautiful postbiotics or metabolites. And then they encapsulate that.
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So it's like freeze dried poop. And people like to
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tell my patients, they're like, ew, but no, I mean,
499
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you know, fecal microbial transplants you know, can reverse and
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regress like many chronic disease states and conditions, right? This
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is being studied all over the world. So this is
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a way around that because you're giving them from a
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healthy donor, right? From a really healthy donor who has
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like a perfect, you know, looking microbiome, you're giving people
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the metabolites from their microbiome.
506
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Does that make sense? And so that's a.
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Great product and it works great. You know, people do
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one great on it.
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That's laughing because I pulled this up to look at
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it and it says right on here, good shit guarantee.
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And it says, are you our next?
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Yeah.
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Are you our next unicorn pooper? And it says they're
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looking for donors and donors.
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
517
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Really, really important, you know, and I don't want to
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get like, I know it's like such a touchy subject.
519
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But I will say that because of how high they
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heat it and it's autoclaved and any protein will even die,
521
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that if people are worried about the spike protein, you know, about,
522
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you know, because a lot of people are worried about
523
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if that person was vaccinated, if there's spike protein, that
524
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would be killed.
525
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Okay. I believe so.
526
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So I think it's still a good product.
527
00:28:13.450 --> 00:28:17.490
Okay. So let's do this then. So spore probiotic and
528
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the one that you had recommended there was.
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I like Megaspore Biotic. Megaspore? Yeah. Microbiome labs, and I
530
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like Rhizo Health. R-H-I-Z-O Health.
531
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Got it.
532
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Rhizo Health. I think it's rhizohealthus.com, their site. Microbiome labs, everyone,
533
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you know, it's microbiomelabs.com. But those are two of the
534
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ones I love.
535
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Okay.
536
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I just love the time of my patients.
537
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So we're going to do one of those, like a spore,
538
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and then you recommend also taking a postbiotic along with that?
539
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Listen, if you can afford getting the the antibiotic, I
540
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think it's wonderful. Especially, like, You know, for maintenance, you know,
541
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it's not a forever thing either. Like if you were,
542
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if you just want to repopulate and get those postbiotics
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in there, like I think you can take it for
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three to six months, right? If you have a chronic
545
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condition though, you might want to take it for longer,
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like six to nine at like maybe a little bit
547
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of a higher dose and then back down to maintenance
548
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for a few months and then just keep it around
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if you start to not feel great. You know, that's
550
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like not, you don't have to stay on that forever
551
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because you're just trying to get those postbiotics like in there.
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doing their thing and exerting their effects again.
553
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Let's say somebody can't afford that. Is there another alternative
554
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they could go with?
555
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For postbiotic, I have to look up. I'm not, nothing. Okay.
556
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But you're, you are saying though that to take that
557
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maybe three to six months and then you don't have
558
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to take it for a while.
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Yeah.
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But the Riso does fulfill all three criteria pre-proposed based
561
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on what's in it and what it's doing in your body.
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Really? Okay. Okay. So Riso health fulfills everything.
563
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Personally, I think so. Yes.
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Got it. Okay, cool. All right. So here's another question.
565
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This was actually sent in by my wife via text
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message while I'm talking to you.
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Yes.
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She's in the other room listening and she has a question.
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I think it's a good question.
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I love that we sort of have like a live
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studio audience. Yeah, we do. I love that.
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She said to ask you if we still need probiotics
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if we're eating fermented foods on a daily basis like
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kimchi or sauerkraut or things like that.
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Yeah, so people would argue no. You know, that like
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you probably have a much healthier microbiome and, you know,
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and if you feel good, right, and you're pooping good
578
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and you don't have GI symptoms, you don't have any
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bizarre conditions and your blood work looks, I say no.
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I think if you're giving yourself all of these things
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and you're eating, that's a problem. But the problem is
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most people don't, right? They're not eating that way. So
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when you don't have like a super clean diet, you're
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not eating that way, it's going to be really hard,
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like I said, not to have some dysbiosis, not to
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have some leaky gut, so on and so forth.
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Well, and also people like, for instance, Queenie told my
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mom to go shop for kimchi and, you know, sauerkraut.
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And my mom wasn't buying the right one. And we
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had to fix that. A lot of people don't know, too.
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It needs to be like the refrigerated ones and, you know,
592
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like the ones off the shelf are not the ones
593
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to buy.
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I mean, in some of those, I think the kombucha...
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Doesn't it have the probiotics in it too?
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I believe it does. I'm pretty sure that it does. Yeah.
597
00:31:18.660 --> 00:31:20.750
Those are great. I mean, and if you're, if you
598
00:31:20.789 --> 00:31:23.049
don't have a histamine issue and you're healthy and your
599
00:31:23.069 --> 00:31:26.910
gut's healthy, those are awesome. You should totally be drinking
600
00:31:26.950 --> 00:31:27.509
those things.
601
00:31:27.829 --> 00:31:31.769
Absolutely. Okay, cool. So we've got that kind of down
602
00:31:31.829 --> 00:31:33.769
now and that disgust. So I think that's a big
603
00:31:33.849 --> 00:31:35.920
one that a lot of people have confusion on. I
604
00:31:35.970 --> 00:31:38.480
know it's tricky and there's so many things marketed and
605
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.630
different brands and different BS. So, That was a good cover.
606
00:31:42.809 --> 00:31:44.789
Oh, and wait, hold on. One other thing that I
607
00:31:44.829 --> 00:31:48.690
just thought of. Yeah. Another red flag, I believe, is
608
00:31:49.289 --> 00:31:54.069
when you buy Megastore, when you buy from these good companies,
609
00:31:54.109 --> 00:31:58.819
you really don't technically need to refrigerate it, right? And
610
00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:02.079
there is this fallacy sort of like, oh, it has
611
00:32:02.099 --> 00:32:05.269
to be in the refrigerator. No, no, no, no. You know,
612
00:32:05.309 --> 00:32:10.990
these probiotics are freeze-dried, and if they're made the right way, right,
613
00:32:11.210 --> 00:32:13.309
and they have a prebiotic in them and they're made
614
00:32:13.329 --> 00:32:17.230
the right way and they're freeze-dried, they can live at
615
00:32:17.269 --> 00:32:20.440
room temperature for like a very, they're very shelf-stable for
616
00:32:20.460 --> 00:32:21.359
a very long time.
617
00:32:21.619 --> 00:32:21.940
Okay.
618
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.160
So they actually, so to me, when they say it
619
00:32:25.220 --> 00:32:27.779
has to be refrigerated, that's like a red flag. The
620
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.380
other red flag to me is when you have so
621
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:35.390
many billions, so many billions and billions of organisms. That
622
00:32:35.430 --> 00:32:37.930
means to me that that's not a stable product, right?
623
00:32:38.269 --> 00:32:41.990
And that those organisms are dying off pretty quickly, you know?
624
00:32:42.410 --> 00:32:47.289
So you want like a shelf-stable, freeze-dried product, for sure.
625
00:32:47.390 --> 00:32:51.569
That's the other thing. Now, the Rhizo, it's shelf-stable too.
626
00:32:51.809 --> 00:32:53.769
And it's a liquid though, just FYI.
627
00:32:54.250 --> 00:32:54.559
Yeah.
628
00:32:54.650 --> 00:32:55.539
But it is shelf-stable.
629
00:32:55.849 --> 00:32:57.430
It looks like it's sold out everywhere. I'm going to
630
00:32:57.470 --> 00:32:59.650
look when we get off the thing, but the podcast,
631
00:32:59.670 --> 00:33:01.369
but it looks like it's sold out everywhere, but I
632
00:33:01.410 --> 00:33:01.990
will find it.
633
00:33:02.369 --> 00:33:05.059
I have it on my, so my, so where I
634
00:33:05.099 --> 00:33:07.839
keep all my COVID protocols, I have a bunch of
635
00:33:07.859 --> 00:33:09.500
the Rizzo because it's part of my, I put in
636
00:33:09.539 --> 00:33:18.059
my protocols to help rebuild the gut. It's at Medi, M-E-D-I-C-O-R-E-R-X, MediCoreRx.com.
637
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:19.619
You could get Rizzo there too.
638
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.420
Okay. Well, I'm sold.
639
00:33:21.700 --> 00:33:22.720
And it's for the same price.
640
00:33:23.410 --> 00:33:26.640
Perfect. Well, I'm going to order that there. Here, go ahead.
641
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:27.960
No, no. I said anyway.
642
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.819
Well, here, I was looking and I'm curious here. So
643
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.500
on that microbiome lab site, there's products and I want
644
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:36.339
to ask about these.
645
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:37.289
Go ahead, ask me. Yeah.
646
00:33:37.589 --> 00:33:41.109
Things like addressing gut flora, for example, like is one
647
00:33:41.130 --> 00:33:43.490
of the things on here that I see. And so
648
00:33:43.730 --> 00:33:46.890
talk about that first and then the mucosal support, things
649
00:33:46.930 --> 00:33:49.710
like that. Are those necessary or what?
650
00:33:49.950 --> 00:33:52.859
If somebody, yes, we didn't want to get complicated, but
651
00:33:52.900 --> 00:33:53.859
we could get a little complicated.
652
00:33:53.900 --> 00:33:54.740
Let's get complicated.
653
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:59.339
So like if you want to restore, right, the integrity
654
00:33:59.539 --> 00:34:03.380
to the intestinal mucosal barrier, Yes, like their product, for example,
655
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:07.000
like that Mega Mucosa, right, which has all these different
656
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:11.039
serum immunoglobulins. I think it's, yeah, is it Mega? No,
657
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:15.159
it's Mega IgG2. So that has all these bovine serum
658
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:20.050
immunoglobulins in them, and that is very helpful to restoring
659
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:24.250
the gut integrity, the mucosal barrier, for sure.
660
00:34:24.730 --> 00:34:25.849
Got it. Okay.
661
00:34:26.769 --> 00:34:29.809
And giving it the immune support it needs and all
662
00:34:29.849 --> 00:34:32.760
that jazz. So is the, and then there's also, what
663
00:34:32.780 --> 00:34:35.500
else do they have? They have the mega mucosa. I
664
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.500
think that has, I forget, what is it? Do you
665
00:34:37.539 --> 00:34:39.219
have it up there? What's in it? Can you look
666
00:34:39.260 --> 00:34:40.110
at it? I forget.
667
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.110
Yes, I will look. So I've got mega mucosa here.
668
00:34:44.510 --> 00:34:46.329
I got two screens going so I can look side
669
00:34:46.369 --> 00:34:50.269
to side. It contains, let me get the back.
670
00:34:50.289 --> 00:34:52.199
I forgot what's in there.
671
00:34:52.380 --> 00:34:55.130
So we got L-proline, L- Yes.
672
00:34:55.889 --> 00:34:57.550
Yeah.
673
00:34:57.710 --> 00:35:00.949
Immunoglobulin G, M, and A.
674
00:35:01.170 --> 00:35:04.650
Okay. Yes. Okay. So that has the immunoglobulins in it. Right. Okay.
675
00:35:04.929 --> 00:35:09.019
So that's very good for restoring the leaky gut, the
676
00:35:09.059 --> 00:35:11.000
integrity of that, you know, gut.
677
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:12.460
Okay.
678
00:35:12.820 --> 00:35:15.480
And then what was in the, because I get confused
679
00:35:15.500 --> 00:35:16.559
with products. I'm sorry.
680
00:35:16.659 --> 00:35:17.179
I don't know.
681
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.699
And then what's in the, what is in the Mega
682
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.019
IgG 2000?
683
00:35:22.019 --> 00:35:25.539
Let's find that one. Okay. Mega IgG 2000.
684
00:35:25.539 --> 00:35:28.550
I think that has all the bovine serum immune globulin.
685
00:35:28.590 --> 00:35:35.010
That has serum derived immunoglobulin concentrate, immunoglobulin G, 900 milligrams.
686
00:35:35.050 --> 00:35:38.340
That is better. That's going to help. So the mega
687
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:41.099
mucosa is more, so I got them, I'm sorry, audience,
688
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.389
I messed up. So the mega mucosa is better, is
689
00:35:44.429 --> 00:35:48.230
very good for, again, restoring health and balance to that
690
00:35:48.469 --> 00:35:52.849
intestinal mucosal barrier, okay? The serum bovine immune globulin is
691
00:35:52.889 --> 00:35:55.269
helpful for that, yes, to some degree, but also to
692
00:35:55.329 --> 00:36:00.659
helping get the different bacteria to grow better also and
693
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:02.280
help with the dysbiosis as well.
694
00:36:02.420 --> 00:36:04.800
Okay, so the mega IG is the one.
695
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.320
For the leaky gut. It's great immune support too.
696
00:36:07.989 --> 00:36:13.130
Okay, so Mega IG Leaky Gut, correct? Okay, perfect. All right, well,
697
00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:17.090
we got some protocols here, so I'm taking so many notes.
698
00:36:17.110 --> 00:36:22.280
I think Microbiome Lab should sponsor this segment.
699
00:36:23.219 --> 00:36:25.300
I think I'm going to send them a copy of
700
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:25.780
this and say.
701
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:27.139
You really should.
702
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.440
If you want this released, we got to get some
703
00:36:30.500 --> 00:36:33.400
benefit here. No. You know what? I like to promote
704
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.280
the products I believe in, but I like to just
705
00:36:35.300 --> 00:36:37.340
talk them out loud. whatever's good.
706
00:36:37.500 --> 00:36:41.199
We don't have to always, and all the different companies
707
00:36:41.260 --> 00:36:42.059
are so good.
708
00:36:42.460 --> 00:36:44.320
Everything doesn't have to be an affiliate code.
709
00:36:45.780 --> 00:36:47.210
And like, you know, I, it was funny. I was
710
00:36:47.230 --> 00:36:50.110
thinking about that the other day opens up my, my
711
00:36:50.269 --> 00:36:53.030
cabinet where I store stash all my vitamins that I
712
00:36:53.050 --> 00:36:55.489
haven't opened up yet. You know, cause I, I hate
713
00:36:55.550 --> 00:36:57.389
running out. And I was like, wow. I was like,
714
00:36:57.829 --> 00:37:00.960
I'm really just so good. Like I, I really support
715
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:07.250
everybody because I have like, Pure encapsulations, microbiome labs, integrative therapeutics,
716
00:37:07.329 --> 00:37:10.110
vital nutrients. It's like, I have everyone, you know, I
717
00:37:10.110 --> 00:37:12.889
have everyone and everything, you know, designs for health. Like,
718
00:37:12.969 --> 00:37:13.969
it's just amazing.
719
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:18.119
Oh, it's important to learn, you know, about all of
720
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:20.260
these and to just be honest about what works and
721
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.639
what doesn't. Not just because you sell it.
722
00:37:22.780 --> 00:37:25.940
Oh, and biotics research. Yeah, like different companies, you know,
723
00:37:26.019 --> 00:37:28.679
they all, they have, I feel like I just gravitate
724
00:37:29.059 --> 00:37:31.199
to different companies for different things. You know, it just,
725
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:31.920
I don't know.
726
00:37:32.610 --> 00:37:33.150
Definitely.
727
00:37:33.489 --> 00:37:33.730
Okay.
728
00:37:33.750 --> 00:37:38.320
Well, let's switch gears here. Obviously, you know this. I just, well,
729
00:37:38.449 --> 00:37:39.820
and to be honest with you, I didn't even tell
730
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:42.739
you this. So I told you I tested positive for COVID,
731
00:37:42.780 --> 00:37:44.960
but then I took another test that said I was negative.
732
00:37:44.980 --> 00:37:47.300
And then I took another one. I had a two, two,
733
00:37:47.659 --> 00:37:50.460
two piece test from CVS, both said positive. And then
734
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.639
I bought three other different tests that all said negative.
735
00:37:52.659 --> 00:37:54.420
So I don't know what the hell I had. Okay.
736
00:37:54.619 --> 00:37:56.139
But I didn't know I didn't feel good at all.
737
00:37:56.570 --> 00:37:57.280
Really crappy.
738
00:37:57.550 --> 00:38:00.510
Yeah, I felt horrible. And so you put me on
739
00:38:00.550 --> 00:38:03.449
a very nice protocol that I've never done. And within
740
00:38:03.610 --> 00:38:06.260
three days, which is by far the shortest, because I've
741
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.840
had COVID like six or seven times, literally. And some
742
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.119
of them have been wretched. Some of them have been
743
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.420
pretty bad, but manageable. But I mean, I had a
744
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:18.119
like two and a half, three week one, one time.
745
00:38:18.460 --> 00:38:20.900
And it seems like they've been different quite a bit too.
746
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:24.179
This was by far the shortest. I don't want to
747
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:28.449
jinx it because I'm still on 100%. But- Let's talk
748
00:38:28.570 --> 00:38:29.570
first about the protocol.
749
00:38:29.590 --> 00:38:31.469
You're on all the good things. You're on all the
750
00:38:31.530 --> 00:38:34.570
good things. You're not on everything. You're missing one major product,
751
00:38:34.590 --> 00:38:37.630
but I, I, I pivoted and made sure I got
752
00:38:37.730 --> 00:38:39.320
like a bunch of the stuff that was in that
753
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.960
product into you, you know, resourceful.
754
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:43.420
Yeah.
755
00:38:43.460 --> 00:38:46.179
Let's talk about your protocol here because there's, you know,
756
00:38:46.219 --> 00:38:51.139
there's so much, excuse me, but bullshit that people talk and,
757
00:38:51.530 --> 00:38:54.070
and go over and act like something doesn't work. At
758
00:38:54.130 --> 00:38:56.030
least now we can actually talk about it because people
759
00:38:56.070 --> 00:38:58.650
are more up to speed and actually grasp the concept
760
00:38:58.690 --> 00:39:01.239
of what was not true and what's true. Let's talk
761
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:05.340
about your protocol that I can 100% confirm absolutely worked
762
00:39:05.380 --> 00:39:09.150
like a charm. you because three days ago.
763
00:39:08.869 --> 00:39:12.869
You want to squash the viral load fast like you
764
00:39:12.909 --> 00:39:16.480
want to you don't want the virus to get like
765
00:39:16.579 --> 00:39:19.579
to start replicating out of control because every for every
766
00:39:19.619 --> 00:39:23.340
virus you're producing tons of spike protein right right so
767
00:39:23.389 --> 00:39:26.070
and you want that fight protein like gone.
768
00:39:25.829 --> 00:39:28.570
As soon as possible okay because.
769
00:39:28.530 --> 00:39:30.559
Well should we talk about a few concepts first and
770
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:35.559
then why yes let's let's okay instead of interviewing me
771
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:36.420
i shouldn't.
772
00:39:37.409 --> 00:39:41.489
Oh instead of giving a protocol let's explain why like
773
00:39:41.570 --> 00:39:45.150
really why not just just because or You better do
774
00:39:45.469 --> 00:39:47.369
the science. Well, let's talk about the science.
775
00:39:47.769 --> 00:39:51.289
Right. Okay. Let's. Okay. So there's a few. Okay. I'm
776
00:39:51.309 --> 00:39:53.809
not going to get into everything because everyone always yells
777
00:39:53.849 --> 00:39:54.989
at me when I do that. And they're like, that's
778
00:39:55.030 --> 00:39:56.889
really complicated. I don't understand that. So I'm going to
779
00:39:56.909 --> 00:40:00.130
try to be as simple as possible. And then you
780
00:40:00.170 --> 00:40:01.409
guide me to tell me if I'm being.
781
00:40:01.550 --> 00:40:02.989
Absolutely. Absolutely.
782
00:40:03.269 --> 00:40:07.110
So there's a few concepts I want everyone to understand. Okay.
783
00:40:07.989 --> 00:40:12.159
Five years of research. and being like knee deep in
784
00:40:12.179 --> 00:40:15.550
this forever, you have to understand two things first, okay?
785
00:40:15.909 --> 00:40:20.250
There's two drivers of the disease, okay? Or what I
786
00:40:20.269 --> 00:40:25.139
call post-COVID conditions or post-tax conditions, okay? Clearly in the vaccine,
787
00:40:25.500 --> 00:40:28.219
it's the psych protein, right? Because that's all that's in
788
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.000
the vaccine is the psych protein. There's no other proteins
789
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.510
in it, right? It's the psych protein. And then from
790
00:40:34.570 --> 00:40:37.989
the virus, it is the spike protein, but the spike
791
00:40:38.010 --> 00:40:41.010
protein and the virus itself also causes a lot of
792
00:40:41.090 --> 00:40:44.409
issues as well. Okay. So, and I'm going to explain why.
793
00:40:44.769 --> 00:40:49.840
So the virus is what's called a bacteriophage. Everyone's like,
794
00:40:49.860 --> 00:40:52.889
what the hell is that? So a bacteriophage means that
795
00:40:53.250 --> 00:40:57.949
the virus invades the bacteria in our bio. So I'm
796
00:40:57.969 --> 00:40:59.809
going to stick with the gut microbiome because this has
797
00:40:59.829 --> 00:41:04.340
been proven by Dr. Carlo Brugna, Simone Cristoni, and their
798
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.900
group in Italy. And they published this a few years ago.
799
00:41:06.940 --> 00:41:09.800
And the fact that nobody really knows this is very sad.
800
00:41:09.940 --> 00:41:12.659
So I want to get this out to your audience, okay? Yes.
801
00:41:12.940 --> 00:41:17.280
So the bacteria... in the gut microbiome get invaded with
802
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:24.429
the virus. The virus then replicates, takes over the bacteria. Okay. And,
803
00:41:24.849 --> 00:41:27.650
you know, you can see in the papers published by
804
00:41:27.670 --> 00:41:32.019
Bronya et al. that under the microscope, these bacteria are
805
00:41:32.059 --> 00:41:34.800
no longer really bacteria and they're not doing their job
806
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.599
anymore because they've been taken over by the virus. Okay.
807
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:38.219
Right.
808
00:41:38.610 --> 00:41:42.329
They're teeming with SARS-CoV-2 virus. So like if you could
809
00:41:42.389 --> 00:41:45.559
imagine like a circle and then all these little tiny
810
00:41:45.619 --> 00:41:49.980
circles inside the circle are the virus replicating inside the bacteria.
811
00:41:50.340 --> 00:41:51.039
Does that make sense?
812
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:51.659
Yeah.
813
00:41:52.380 --> 00:41:57.179
And then what happens as a result is the bacteria, right,
814
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.090
with all the multiplying virus in it, start to throw
815
00:42:01.289 --> 00:42:07.699
off these peptides called toxin-like peptides. Now, the group has
816
00:42:08.059 --> 00:42:12.309
at this point identified about 300 to 400 different peptides.
817
00:42:12.369 --> 00:42:15.909
It's a signature, okay? They were able to show this
818
00:42:15.969 --> 00:42:19.230
because in their papers, they did have the same people
819
00:42:19.269 --> 00:42:21.639
that got the virus were their own control. So meaning
820
00:42:21.969 --> 00:42:25.440
anyone that never had COVID before, when they looked in
821
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:27.739
their stool and in their serum and all that stuff,
822
00:42:27.780 --> 00:42:31.480
in their urine, they didn't make, these peptides weren't present.
823
00:42:31.860 --> 00:42:35.829
But then after getting the virus, these peptides were present.
824
00:42:36.150 --> 00:42:36.409
Okay.
825
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:41.340
So it's unique to SARS-CoV-2. Got it. Does that make sense? Yeah, 100%.
826
00:42:41.340 --> 00:42:44.389
I'm really trying here because I get yelled at a lot.
827
00:42:44.650 --> 00:42:46.650
No, no, no, no, no, no. This is important and
828
00:42:46.809 --> 00:42:48.469
this is, people will understand.
829
00:42:48.550 --> 00:42:53.250
So, okay. So now in most people, if you test
830
00:42:53.309 --> 00:42:56.030
them and we're in the middle of researching all this, okay,
831
00:42:56.250 --> 00:43:01.099
they have these toxin-like peptides. Because the bacteria, the bacteriophages
832
00:43:01.139 --> 00:43:03.280
live in our gut for months, if not years. And
833
00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:05.539
I'm really not trying to freak people. I'm just telling you. Okay.
834
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:09.030
So they're there in a lot of people, even people
835
00:43:09.070 --> 00:43:12.710
that don't feel like they have long COVID. And, um,
836
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And we don't know what is the short and long-term damage. Like,
837
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.639
you know, what is somebody's post-COVID condition and is it
838
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.780
resulting from this? I don't know. But these toxin-like peptides
839
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.239
exert their effects all over the body. And a lot
840
00:43:27.289 --> 00:43:30.989
of them are neurotoxins that cross the blood-brain barrier, right?
841
00:43:31.190 --> 00:43:33.670
And they are toxic to the gut and the gut
842
00:43:33.690 --> 00:43:36.570
lining and to maybe your kidneys and all differently in
843
00:43:36.590 --> 00:43:40.030
your heart, you know? So that's problem one.
844
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.820
Okay, one second. One second. I'm going to stop you there.
845
00:43:44.179 --> 00:43:46.119
How do we test for this peptide to know if
846
00:43:46.139 --> 00:43:47.019
we have it in our body?
847
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:50.929
So right now it's in R & D. So I'm
848
00:43:50.989 --> 00:43:53.070
able to do it with a lot of my patients.
849
00:43:53.389 --> 00:43:56.409
But the idea is to hopefully commercialize it at some
850
00:43:56.449 --> 00:43:57.170
point very soon.
851
00:43:57.190 --> 00:44:00.300
Okay. All right. Okay, keep going. Sorry.
852
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.380
Which I don't know how that would happen, but whatever. Hopefully,
853
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.860
maybe someone will hear this and want to help us.
854
00:44:05.969 --> 00:44:06.320
I don't know.
855
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:11.570
So, okay. So that's first. Now it gets more complicated.
856
00:44:11.610 --> 00:44:15.190
You're like, oh God. So when you have the virus, remember,
857
00:44:15.389 --> 00:44:18.510
like when you identify the virus, like even in the gut,
858
00:44:18.869 --> 00:44:22.550
you could have the spike protein just in the cells, right?
859
00:44:22.750 --> 00:44:25.690
Or you could have the virus replicating in the cells.
860
00:44:25.909 --> 00:44:27.710
And that's not just in the gut, but anywhere in
861
00:44:27.750 --> 00:44:31.179
your body, right? Now, once the spike protein of the
862
00:44:31.219 --> 00:44:35.679
virus is inside any cell, it becomes a senescent cell. Yes.
863
00:44:35.900 --> 00:44:37.940
So it becomes like a half-dead zombie.
864
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:38.539
Right, 100%.
865
00:44:38.539 --> 00:44:43.389
And the virus triggers all these different proteins and compounds
866
00:44:43.409 --> 00:44:47.670
that inhibit autophagy. And your audience might be like, what's autophagy?
867
00:44:47.849 --> 00:44:50.690
So autophagy is the way the cell saves itself. So
868
00:44:50.730 --> 00:44:52.829
if the cell is sort of kind of sick and
869
00:44:52.849 --> 00:44:57.130
dying and not well, it can kick in to superhero
870
00:44:57.170 --> 00:45:00.489
mode and get itself like, you know, healthy and better again.
871
00:45:00.619 --> 00:45:00.969
Yes.
872
00:45:01.070 --> 00:45:04.650
But if the spike protein or the virus is inside
873
00:45:04.710 --> 00:45:08.309
the cell, then it's unlikely that that will happen. Now,
874
00:45:08.670 --> 00:45:11.469
those senescent cells have to come out of you because
875
00:45:11.789 --> 00:45:15.469
while they're living in you, they're like throwing off all
876
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:21.460
of these terrible pro-inflammatory cytokines and garbage and horribleness. Yep. Yes. Now,
877
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.840
because of, and I always say it wrong, because of SAST,
878
00:45:25.260 --> 00:45:32.570
which is the secretory phenotype the senescent-associated secretory phenotype, right?
879
00:45:32.989 --> 00:45:36.219
Which sort of sends out signals to like adjacent cells
880
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.159
or cells that are around in the same area, right?
881
00:45:39.340 --> 00:45:42.039
Those cells can then sort of start falling into a
882
00:45:42.059 --> 00:45:45.679
senescent state too. But you can save those cells because
883
00:45:45.739 --> 00:45:48.739
the spike or the virus actually isn't in it. It's
884
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:54.340
just through this sort of mechanism, this communicative mechanism, like
885
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.820
the signaling sort of mechanism that's making them senescent. But
886
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:02.030
those cells that don't have the spike in them or
887
00:46:02.050 --> 00:46:05.789
the virus, you can potentially save them with xenomorphics, right?
888
00:46:05.849 --> 00:46:09.769
So the senolytics are going to get rid of these
889
00:46:10.030 --> 00:46:13.869
bad cells. you know, cells, but the centimorphics can help
890
00:46:13.949 --> 00:46:15.849
morph those cells back to healthy cells.
891
00:46:15.989 --> 00:46:18.570
So is that like a medication treatment therapy?
892
00:46:18.590 --> 00:46:20.570
We're going to get to it. We're going to get
893
00:46:20.590 --> 00:46:22.789
to why. I'm giving you like the concepts.
894
00:46:23.150 --> 00:46:23.469
Yeah.
895
00:46:23.489 --> 00:46:26.639
Does that concept make sense? Like that? It's a hard concept.
896
00:46:26.659 --> 00:46:29.739
Well, it makes sense. It's so hard. It makes sense
897
00:46:29.780 --> 00:46:32.480
to me because I'm in class right now studying cellular
898
00:46:32.659 --> 00:46:35.260
biology and everything. So I understand everything you're talking about.
899
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.199
I totally get it. I just got done learning about
900
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.860
senescent cells and autophagy.
901
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:40.159
Oh, that's perfect.
902
00:46:40.460 --> 00:46:43.530
Well, I work with Timeline Nutrition, and so I'm very
903
00:46:43.590 --> 00:46:47.190
familiar with creating mitophagy and urolithin A. So this is
904
00:46:47.250 --> 00:46:50.210
all my wheelhouse. So I get it. But, you know,
905
00:46:50.230 --> 00:46:52.090
I want to make, I'm sure that people.
906
00:46:52.110 --> 00:46:53.349
I'm trying to like dumb it down.
907
00:46:53.369 --> 00:46:53.429
No.
908
00:46:53.750 --> 00:46:55.530
But you can dumb it down more if you.
909
00:46:55.610 --> 00:46:56.920
Yeah, 100%.
910
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:00.840
Just jump in. So, okay. And then the last part
911
00:47:00.860 --> 00:47:03.699
I'm going to say about this is you have productive
912
00:47:03.739 --> 00:47:07.179
cells and depo cells. Okay. What the hell is that?
913
00:47:07.570 --> 00:47:12.320
So productive cells are cells throughout our body that have
914
00:47:12.659 --> 00:47:17.820
the actual virus inside them that are still producing spike protein.
915
00:47:18.019 --> 00:47:18.800
Does that make sense?
916
00:47:18.900 --> 00:47:20.420
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
917
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.099
And then another type of productive cell is a cell
918
00:47:24.179 --> 00:47:28.059
that has the mRNA in it from the vaccine that's
919
00:47:28.460 --> 00:47:31.679
able to still produce spike protein. Does that make sense?
920
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:33.000
So that's not good.
921
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.780
No, that's not good. But then because of all the
922
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:40.650
free-floating spike and all the spike that we produce from
923
00:47:40.690 --> 00:47:44.650
the vaccine or virus when we're infected, the spike is
924
00:47:44.730 --> 00:47:48.389
a magnet for any cell in your body, okay? And
925
00:47:48.449 --> 00:47:52.570
the spike can actually attach to over two dozen different
926
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.980
host cell receptors in our body. So everyone always hears ACE, ACE,
927
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.360
ACE receptor, ACE receptor. No, no, no. That's like one
928
00:47:58.380 --> 00:48:02.409
of 26 receptors. That's why it's such a beast. And
929
00:48:02.429 --> 00:48:05.980
that's why it impacts so many different organ systems, because
930
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.719
it can access almost every cell in our body. OK,
931
00:48:10.099 --> 00:48:13.460
so if you have free floating spike without the mRNA
932
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.610
or the virus, right, that spike is a magnet for
933
00:48:16.769 --> 00:48:19.110
any healthy cell it comes into. It doesn't live in
934
00:48:19.130 --> 00:48:21.150
the blood. I just want to make that like it
935
00:48:21.190 --> 00:48:23.449
has no purpose. It doesn't it doesn't want to be there.
936
00:48:23.489 --> 00:48:25.309
We'll just like you'll eventually just get rid of it.
937
00:48:25.309 --> 00:48:27.739
You'll pee or poop it out. So as soon as
938
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:30.480
it comes in contact with a healthy cell, it accesses
939
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:33.599
that host cell receptor, gets in, and that's a deep
940
00:48:33.619 --> 00:48:37.079
host cell. So it's not productive because it doesn't have
941
00:48:37.139 --> 00:48:40.210
machinery behind it like a virus or the mRNA to
942
00:48:40.289 --> 00:48:44.369
make more, but it's still a spike inside a cell
943
00:48:44.409 --> 00:48:48.650
that now made that cell senescent and now overrides autophagy
944
00:48:49.050 --> 00:48:51.429
and it needs to be taken out also. Does that
945
00:48:51.469 --> 00:48:51.909
make sense?
946
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:53.880
Yeah. It's a mess.
947
00:48:53.900 --> 00:48:57.179
You got to get all those cells out. And then
948
00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:00.110
the other cells, like I told you from the SAS,
949
00:49:00.230 --> 00:49:02.550
you know, that don't have spike or virus in it,
950
00:49:03.030 --> 00:49:05.570
you know, they can be safe. And it's every cell
951
00:49:05.610 --> 00:49:10.489
in your body. It's like the immune cell, every endothelial cell,
952
00:49:10.550 --> 00:49:15.179
epithelial cells, your astrocytes in your brain, your like everything
953
00:49:15.500 --> 00:49:22.239
right and and there's thousands of papers from from major
954
00:49:22.300 --> 00:49:27.570
academic academic institutions all over the globe that show exactly
955
00:49:27.590 --> 00:49:29.869
what i'm talking about so it's not like made up
956
00:49:30.329 --> 00:49:35.289
like electron microscopic pictures of this right like that show
957
00:49:35.389 --> 00:49:38.820
that this is like legitimate and really is happening you.
958
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:43.760
Know Have you given any lectures, written any books, done
959
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:44.900
anything on this at all?
960
00:49:45.179 --> 00:49:49.800
Yeah. So it's funny. And I'm a very humble person.
961
00:49:49.860 --> 00:49:52.019
I don't have a big ego at all, but I'll
962
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:55.079
tell you this. So I've been trying to really perfect
963
00:49:55.139 --> 00:49:59.090
my speaking because I have all this information in my brain,
964
00:49:59.130 --> 00:50:01.010
and it's really hard to get out, right? And I'm
965
00:50:01.429 --> 00:50:04.829
not a seasoned speaker. I don't. I haven't. Like Betsy
966
00:50:04.929 --> 00:50:08.150
and all these other beautiful mentors and friends of mine,
967
00:50:08.170 --> 00:50:10.730
they've been speaking for a long time, and I love
968
00:50:10.769 --> 00:50:12.469
listening to them, and I learn so much from them.
969
00:50:12.570 --> 00:50:15.119
And like Frank Lipman, like all these people. Amy Killen's
970
00:50:15.179 --> 00:50:18.800
another one. Kiran Krishnan. Like, oh, they're great. And so
971
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:20.199
I get out there, and I'm like, I have all
972
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.170
this stuff. I don't know what to do with it.
973
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:25.659
So I was at the IHS, gave my talk, And
974
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.929
I was like, yeah, that wasn't great because although like
975
00:50:29.989 --> 00:50:32.110
so many people, I was there an hour after like
976
00:50:32.170 --> 00:50:35.230
talking to so many people that their reception was lovely.
977
00:50:35.269 --> 00:50:36.730
But I was like, God, I got to do better.
978
00:50:36.909 --> 00:50:39.320
So then I went to go speak at Calm, which
979
00:50:39.380 --> 00:50:43.760
is me and, you know, Betsy and Cynthia, you know, Keller.
980
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.119
Like we all spoke, you know, a lot of us
981
00:50:45.139 --> 00:50:47.900
spoke there. A bit Hussein, like whatever, great group of people.
982
00:50:48.670 --> 00:50:51.750
And Betsy and I love Betsy was like so cute
983
00:50:51.769 --> 00:50:53.949
because she's like bragging like because like I'm like her
984
00:50:54.179 --> 00:50:56.500
like really good friend. And and so she's like, we've
985
00:50:56.579 --> 00:50:59.920
never seen this happen before. So what happened was was
986
00:51:00.059 --> 00:51:02.579
I couldn't. So I shortened the talk and I got
987
00:51:02.619 --> 00:51:05.079
through a lot of the points, which we'll finish getting through.
988
00:51:05.420 --> 00:51:08.760
And this the audience was like stunned. Right. And I
989
00:51:09.340 --> 00:51:11.219
I was like, oh, my God. Right. And I didn't
990
00:51:11.260 --> 00:51:13.800
realize like how like impactful. But like I definitely did
991
00:51:13.820 --> 00:51:15.860
a much better job than at IHS, like getting the
992
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:18.809
points across. Right. Right. And so I got through so
993
00:51:18.829 --> 00:51:21.130
much more of the talk to really, you know, have
994
00:51:21.170 --> 00:51:23.949
people wrap their heads around, like what is going on,
995
00:51:24.230 --> 00:51:27.099
you know? And it was a great audience because many of,
996
00:51:27.289 --> 00:51:30.190
you know, it's a lot of doctors, obviously, you know, nutrition,
997
00:51:30.230 --> 00:51:32.250
you know, people like you too, like, like that are
998
00:51:32.269 --> 00:51:34.190
in your space as well, but people that get it,
999
00:51:34.349 --> 00:51:37.309
you know? So it was good. And so the MC, Karen,
1000
00:51:37.329 --> 00:51:41.010
who's like adorable, so awesome. She comes off to take
1001
00:51:41.050 --> 00:51:44.610
me off and they booed her and told them to like,
1002
00:51:44.670 --> 00:51:47.530
let me finish and keep going. And I was so
1003
00:51:47.650 --> 00:51:50.800
flattered and humbled. Like I really was. And like, and
1004
00:51:50.820 --> 00:51:53.440
then like Betsy and like Cynthia, they're like, that's never
1005
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.039
happened at any conference we've ever been at, you know?
1006
00:51:56.079 --> 00:52:01.489
So this must be really important, you know? The point is,
1007
00:52:01.570 --> 00:52:05.610
I've been at only a few talking, but I'm getting better.
1008
00:52:06.050 --> 00:52:08.050
So I promise the next time I'll be better.
1009
00:52:08.289 --> 00:52:13.809
Well, look, I have done public speaking for, what am I, 43?
1010
00:52:13.809 --> 00:52:16.909
I started, I mean, I was doing classes and everything
1011
00:52:16.929 --> 00:52:19.630
at 14 years old. Some people get amped for it.
1012
00:52:19.670 --> 00:52:23.150
Like I look forward to it and I get amped
1013
00:52:23.170 --> 00:52:27.710
for it. I have no butterflies anymore, no sweats, no
1014
00:52:28.070 --> 00:52:29.449
fast heart, nothing at all.
1015
00:52:29.469 --> 00:52:30.639
It's like, it's excitement.
1016
00:52:30.989 --> 00:52:33.480
But you have to, that doesn't come naturally. You have
1017
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:36.019
to overcome and get used to it and you will.
1018
00:52:36.260 --> 00:52:39.039
More comfort and then it starts flowing. I mean, you
1019
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:40.900
go back and watch some of the videos I made
1020
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:43.739
like 15 years ago and you're like, dude, what the,
1021
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.769
you know, I'm looking at myself like, what?
1022
00:52:47.010 --> 00:52:49.590
I really, it was a big leap from that one
1023
00:52:49.630 --> 00:52:52.309
to this one. Like I definitely was much better and
1024
00:52:52.670 --> 00:52:55.030
like got my point across and a lot more clear,
1025
00:52:55.269 --> 00:52:58.239
you know, with the message. Yeah. And I was definitely
1026
00:52:58.619 --> 00:53:01.269
not nearly as nervous too, which was good. So I
1027
00:53:01.309 --> 00:53:04.150
feel like what you're saying, the more I do, the better.
1028
00:53:04.449 --> 00:53:06.929
Here's what you have to have in your corner. It's
1029
00:53:07.070 --> 00:53:09.829
so important. Well, two things. One, you have to have
1030
00:53:09.949 --> 00:53:13.159
thick ass skin where you can need to be open
1031
00:53:13.539 --> 00:53:17.179
to all criticism and take it as help and not like, oh,
1032
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:19.179
you hurt my feelings. And you have to be able
1033
00:53:19.219 --> 00:53:21.139
to take that and listen to it and then use
1034
00:53:21.179 --> 00:53:23.360
it as your fuel to go, man, because I always
1035
00:53:23.380 --> 00:53:26.019
tell my wife, If I'm being annoying, if I'm talking
1036
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.590
too much, if I look like shit, tell me so
1037
00:53:28.650 --> 00:53:29.420
I can fix it.
1038
00:53:29.889 --> 00:53:30.130
Right?
1039
00:53:30.389 --> 00:53:32.789
So you have to be open to constructive criticism.
1040
00:53:32.809 --> 00:53:34.719
Which I am. I'm totally open to it.
1041
00:53:34.789 --> 00:53:37.389
So once you're open to that, then you can go
1042
00:53:37.449 --> 00:53:39.690
back and rewatch what you did and go, okay, maybe
1043
00:53:39.730 --> 00:53:42.750
this person's just hating or maybe this person's really telling
1044
00:53:42.789 --> 00:53:45.820
me the truth. And you can judge by audience reaction
1045
00:53:45.860 --> 00:53:46.820
and how you view it.
1046
00:53:47.179 --> 00:53:47.360
Right?
1047
00:53:47.380 --> 00:53:49.780
But you can't live in fantasy land and think that,
1048
00:53:49.940 --> 00:53:51.920
oh my gosh, I do everything great. I don't care
1049
00:53:51.940 --> 00:53:52.590
if you've been doing it.
1050
00:53:52.619 --> 00:53:53.179
Not at all.
1051
00:53:53.510 --> 00:53:55.969
Yeah. You do it a hundred years, you're still probably
1052
00:53:56.010 --> 00:53:56.829
doing something wrong.
1053
00:53:57.110 --> 00:54:01.250
And yeah, totally. Always wanting to get better. Always learning
1054
00:54:01.289 --> 00:54:03.090
more every day. You know, all those things.
1055
00:54:03.449 --> 00:54:06.159
Yes. There's no room for sensitivity when you're trying to
1056
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.760
be successful. There's just not, you know, and I'm big
1057
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:12.159
on that. You have to be able to be tough
1058
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.280
to be successful. So just wanted to throw that. I'm sorry.
1059
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.219
I get really riled up with that because I'm like
1060
00:54:17.300 --> 00:54:19.750
really trained for And so I.
1061
00:54:19.750 --> 00:54:22.250
Didn't mean to digress, but that's what happened. And yeah,
1062
00:54:22.289 --> 00:54:23.369
so I've spoken a few times.
1063
00:54:24.650 --> 00:54:27.909
I think you're wonderful. I think that you get passionate
1064
00:54:27.949 --> 00:54:30.420
about what you're saying. So you just keep going and
1065
00:54:30.539 --> 00:54:32.079
people want to hear it. They do.
1066
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.440
Right. So those are those first two points, which are
1067
00:54:35.659 --> 00:54:36.539
so important.
1068
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:37.119
Yes.
1069
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:38.920
So now you're like, crap, how do we get this out?
1070
00:54:39.699 --> 00:54:41.119
And then I just want to talk about a few
1071
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:42.860
other really important points. Okay.
1072
00:54:43.099 --> 00:54:43.400
Yes.
1073
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So now everyone's like, okay. The spike protein, it's in there.
1074
00:54:46.539 --> 00:54:48.320
It's doing X, Y, and Z. What is it doing?
1075
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.719
Let's just focus in on like three organ systems. Because
1076
00:54:51.780 --> 00:54:53.980
I mean, yeah, you can get into the autoimmune part,
1077
00:54:54.059 --> 00:54:56.059
get into the immune deficiency part, like whatever. But let's
1078
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.440
talk about the brain, the heart, and the vascular system.
1079
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:00.239
Yes, please.
1080
00:55:00.469 --> 00:55:05.010
It's so important. So your brain, it's so sensitive to this.
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00:55:05.070 --> 00:55:07.010
And this is why I believe we're seeing the tsunami
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00:55:07.030 --> 00:55:10.320
of neurodegenerative disease like we've never seen before. Right. Even
1083
00:55:10.389 --> 00:55:14.289
from 2020 to 2022, there has been an increase of
1084
00:55:14.389 --> 00:55:18.449
Parkinson's disease by 50 percent. I just 50 percent. I
1085
00:55:18.489 --> 00:55:21.130
didn't say one percent. I didn't say five percent. I
1086
00:55:21.170 --> 00:55:24.489
didn't even say 10 percent. Just a 50 percent. Right.
1087
00:55:24.769 --> 00:55:25.170
Right.
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00:55:25.670 --> 00:55:29.090
This is because when the spike. So it's a few.
1089
00:55:29.150 --> 00:55:31.070
There's a there's a few reasons why. And I'm going
1090
00:55:31.150 --> 00:55:33.349
to let's just get into the few simple a few
1091
00:55:33.449 --> 00:55:34.610
reasons that people can take away.
1092
00:55:34.949 --> 00:55:35.309
Please.
1093
00:55:35.570 --> 00:55:39.329
OK. Where should I start first? OK. OK. So one
1094
00:55:39.510 --> 00:55:44.010
concept is that we know that the spike protein from
1095
00:55:44.110 --> 00:55:48.280
post-mortem studies, you know, from pathologists looking at this, in
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00:55:48.340 --> 00:55:51.139
people that had COVID or even the vaccine, that the
1097
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:55.039
spike protein is found even months and months later after
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00:55:55.059 --> 00:55:58.469
they were exposed to either in the skull. In the
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00:55:58.590 --> 00:56:05.650
skull meninges, like meaning the skull meninges connection, the meninges itself,
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00:56:05.769 --> 00:56:10.260
and in the skull bone marrow. Okay, this has been proven. Now,
1101
00:56:10.619 --> 00:56:14.320
we also know that the spike protein has a very
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00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:18.380
high affinity for the astrocytes in our brain and the pericytes.
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00:56:18.739 --> 00:56:22.710
So the astrocytes and the astroglia cells are super duper important, right?
1104
00:56:22.750 --> 00:56:26.130
And we know that these astrocytes are what line and
1105
00:56:26.210 --> 00:56:29.869
make up the blood-brain barrier, okay? And then the pericytes
1106
00:56:29.909 --> 00:56:32.010
are like sort of behind it on the back. And
1107
00:56:32.030 --> 00:56:33.829
if you like, we're thinking like, oh, there's a front
1108
00:56:33.889 --> 00:56:36.630
row and a back row, like behind. And those also
1109
00:56:36.889 --> 00:56:41.289
are infected. The spike protein transfects those cells too, I guess.
1110
00:56:41.349 --> 00:56:43.030
So that's like another lining then.
1111
00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:43.570
Yeah.
1112
00:56:43.989 --> 00:56:44.340
Okay.
1113
00:56:44.500 --> 00:56:47.400
So now, okay. So, okay. So now we have spike
1114
00:56:47.460 --> 00:56:51.559
inside these cells and that's really bad. And then on
1115
00:56:51.980 --> 00:56:55.940
the other side of our brain is our glymphatic system, right?
1116
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.360
Which is, which is how we get rid of all
1117
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.780
the toxins and garbage, like sort of like how our
1118
00:57:00.900 --> 00:57:04.420
lymphatic system works throughout our body. That's our glymphatic system
1119
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.340
in our brain. And especially at night when we're sleeping,
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00:57:07.699 --> 00:57:10.679
that's when the glymphatic system is working the most to
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00:57:10.780 --> 00:57:12.780
move all the garbage out of our brain, right? So
1122
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:16.699
we can repair, regenerate, detox. So the glymphatic system is
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00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:22.039
lined also by the astrocytes and these channels called the aquaporin-4, okay?
1124
00:57:22.059 --> 00:57:27.800
And that's heavily... Those are heavily infested by the spike
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00:57:27.820 --> 00:57:30.659
protein as well. So now what happens is your brain,
1126
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.719
we call it like a pressure cooker. Because in like
1127
00:57:33.780 --> 00:57:37.670
my group in Europe, Joachim Gerlach, who's been an amazing mentor,
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00:57:37.710 --> 00:57:41.610
he coined it because it's true. Because what happens is
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00:57:41.670 --> 00:57:44.860
now the blood-brain barrier is like wide open, right? It's
1130
00:57:44.889 --> 00:57:48.699
not intact anymore. All this garbage is flying across it
1131
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:52.420
because you know that blood-brain barrier is so, so selective
1132
00:57:52.500 --> 00:57:55.719
about what comes into your brain, right? And on the
1133
00:57:55.820 --> 00:57:59.960
other side, you have a destroyed or very compromised lymphatic
1134
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:02.579
system that isn't able to get rid of all this
1135
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:05.840
garbage now flying across your brain. So that's why people
1136
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:09.460
feel the way they feel. They feel like they're underwater,
1137
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:12.320
like their head's going to explode, right? Don't you talk
1138
00:58:12.340 --> 00:58:14.800
to all these long COVID patients, that's what they feel like.
1139
00:58:15.250 --> 00:58:18.570
you know, and that's what drives the chronic fatigue and
1140
00:58:18.590 --> 00:58:22.360
the post-exertional malaise and that head pressure feeling and the
1141
00:58:22.510 --> 00:58:24.519
neck pressure and all, like I know so many people
1142
00:58:24.539 --> 00:58:26.179
are probably like, oh my God, that's how I feel,
1143
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:28.039
that are listening to this or that will be listening
1144
00:58:28.059 --> 00:58:30.860
to this because that's why, that's one of the reasons, okay?
1145
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:34.920
And then you get, microglia activation and those microglia cells
1146
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.380
are terrible. You know, when you have microglia activate, that's what,
1147
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.039
you know, when you look at an Alzheimer's brain, right?
1148
00:58:40.340 --> 00:58:44.619
They have microgliosis, their microglia are activated. That's what causes
1149
00:58:44.699 --> 00:58:48.070
damage and all that stuff. That's what a SARS-CoV-2 brain
1150
00:58:48.130 --> 00:58:50.429
looks like too. If you look at studies and put
1151
00:58:50.469 --> 00:58:53.150
them side by side. Okay, so that's one point. The
1152
00:58:53.210 --> 00:58:57.440
second point is that when the spike protein and this, okay,
1153
00:58:57.460 --> 00:59:00.440
so I got to give credit. So there's two researchers,
1154
00:59:00.659 --> 00:59:04.469
Per Hammerstrom and Sophie Nystrom. I think they're Swedish. They
1155
00:59:04.570 --> 00:59:09.420
published what we coined the Hammerstrom fibers, okay? They looked
1156
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:12.659
at the spike protein and they looked at this enzyme
1157
00:59:12.699 --> 00:59:17.300
called neutrophil elastase. So when you have SARS-CoV-2, when you
1158
00:59:17.550 --> 00:59:21.949
have the virus, it activates the neutrophils, which is part
1159
00:59:21.969 --> 00:59:25.469
of your white blood cells, right? Which fight off infection.
1160
00:59:25.489 --> 00:59:28.550
They get activated. And then when the neutrophils get activated,
1161
00:59:28.590 --> 00:59:31.070
they release this enzyme called neutrophil elastase.
1162
00:59:31.329 --> 00:59:32.159
Right, right.
1163
00:59:32.429 --> 00:59:35.440
When neutrophil elastase, so it's an enzyme, right? So you
1164
00:59:35.460 --> 00:59:38.820
know enzymes can cut things up. So when neutrophil elastase
1165
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.980
comes into contact with the spike protein and it cuts
1166
00:59:42.139 --> 00:59:46.190
the protein at certain parts, you know, of that sequence.
1167
00:59:46.510 --> 00:59:46.829
Yeah.
1168
00:59:47.070 --> 00:59:53.679
They identified... seven different sequences or epitopes that get exposed
1169
00:59:53.780 --> 00:59:57.679
when the spike protein comes in contact with the neutrophil elastase.
1170
00:59:57.980 --> 00:59:58.300
Okay.
1171
00:59:58.460 --> 01:00:04.150
Those seven proteins are neurotoxic fibrils. They form neurotoxic fibrils
1172
01:00:04.329 --> 01:00:10.130
on contact with the spike protein. So, and it's tau proteins, right?
1173
01:00:10.150 --> 01:00:12.840
We know what tau, tau is Alzheimer's, right?
1174
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:13.699
Yeah. Yeah.
1175
01:00:13.940 --> 01:00:19.909
Alpha synuclein, which is Parkinson's, CD, is it CD-147? Or
1176
01:00:20.090 --> 01:00:22.329
I forget, I think that's, or C, what's the other one?
1177
01:00:22.730 --> 01:00:28.889
The one for ALS. There's beta amyloid, right? Beta amyloid,
1178
01:00:28.929 --> 01:00:30.889
which we know is Alzheimer's too.
1179
01:00:30.969 --> 01:00:31.750
Right, right.
1180
01:00:32.250 --> 01:00:35.550
And they even identified one of, you know, and I
1181
01:00:35.570 --> 01:00:37.170
can share that too with you so you can see
1182
01:00:37.210 --> 01:00:39.170
the slide or you want to share the study with
1183
01:00:39.190 --> 01:00:44.300
the audience. That's prionergic. meaning it could cause prion disease.
1184
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:44.639
Right.
1185
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.619
And so people, if people want to understand what that is,
1186
01:00:47.619 --> 01:00:48.840
it's mad cow's disease.
1187
01:00:49.019 --> 01:00:51.010
Man, there's a lot here.
1188
01:00:51.510 --> 01:00:56.849
Right, right. And so that is why, because of this
1189
01:00:56.929 --> 01:01:00.050
sort of soup of different, or in the soup, I
1190
01:01:00.110 --> 01:01:02.940
think of it, like these different fibers that can form,
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01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:06.760
you're almost seeing these people present or we're seeing in
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01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.360
the clinic. And when I talk to my beautiful colleagues
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01:01:09.429 --> 01:01:12.489
out there that are really noticing this too, you're seeing like,
1194
01:01:12.590 --> 01:01:17.070
not even like straightforward ALS or straightforward Parkinson's or straight
1195
01:01:17.289 --> 01:01:20.409
or it's like almost like a mishmash because you have
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01:01:20.789 --> 01:01:25.969
a mishmash of these fibers being activated exposure. And so
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01:01:25.989 --> 01:01:29.559
everyone's like, everyone, I know everyone's over it. I get it.
1198
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:32.940
I don't want you not to be over it. But,
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01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:35.900
you know, even in the last year and a half alone,
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01:01:36.260 --> 01:01:40.489
there's been three or four papers published by Nature's Communication
1201
01:01:40.739 --> 01:01:44.210
just showing like a young person, like a young person
1202
01:01:44.230 --> 01:01:47.590
with mild from just one exposure from a mild case
1203
01:01:47.710 --> 01:01:51.730
or an asymptomatic case of COVID has brain changes, has
1204
01:01:51.909 --> 01:01:56.670
gray matter changes, white matter changes, has decreased cerebral blood
1205
01:01:56.730 --> 01:02:01.510
flow to their brain just after one exposure. Right. So
1206
01:02:01.690 --> 01:02:04.650
this is why now people are being exposed over and
1207
01:02:04.690 --> 01:02:07.630
over again. And we already live in a toxic suit. Right.
1208
01:02:07.889 --> 01:02:09.570
So we already live in a time. And now you
1209
01:02:09.590 --> 01:02:12.889
have this biotoxin on top of everything else that I
1210
01:02:12.909 --> 01:02:14.829
think so many people are living right here. And it
1211
01:02:14.849 --> 01:02:16.989
just like pushed them over. You know, it was like
1212
01:02:17.329 --> 01:02:18.829
it was like the last drop in the bucket.
1213
01:02:19.030 --> 01:02:21.030
So the more exposed you've been to it or more
1214
01:02:21.070 --> 01:02:23.110
that you've had it, then the likely the more.
1215
01:02:23.130 --> 01:02:24.369
Maybe possibly.
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01:02:24.389 --> 01:02:25.130
Yeah.
1217
01:02:25.349 --> 01:02:27.090
You could have all the people from the first time
1218
01:02:27.510 --> 01:02:30.340
that are still suffering. Yeah. I mean, I believe the
1219
01:02:30.380 --> 01:02:34.719
more spike burden you have, yeah, could set you up
1220
01:02:34.780 --> 01:02:37.949
probably not for the best success. And that's why it's
1221
01:02:37.969 --> 01:02:42.090
so important, you know, for prophylactics, I believe, you know,
1222
01:02:42.190 --> 01:02:46.030
for prevention and for treatment to like really treat the
1223
01:02:46.070 --> 01:02:48.869
right way and try to move the virus, you know,
1224
01:02:48.909 --> 01:02:51.670
like squash the virus right away so it doesn't multiply
1225
01:02:51.710 --> 01:02:53.889
and get rid of these spike proteins right away so
1226
01:02:53.929 --> 01:02:57.050
they can't take hold and get, you know, become pervasive
1227
01:02:57.090 --> 01:02:58.360
in different cells throughout your body.
1228
01:02:58.739 --> 01:03:02.079
So why would somebody like me have had it so
1229
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:05.300
many damn times? Like, keep getting it. I don't understand.
1230
01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.300
So, okay. So, all right. So we sort of covered
1231
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:10.630
the neuro stuff. Okay, so I guess I'll move to
1232
01:03:10.670 --> 01:03:16.409
immune deficiencies. Okay. Remember when, like, okay, so the spike protein,
1233
01:03:16.789 --> 01:03:18.829
so I was explaining how it gets inside the cells.
1234
01:03:19.170 --> 01:03:22.610
So it really has a very high affinity for your
1235
01:03:22.650 --> 01:03:27.010
CD4 cells, your CD8 cells, so your T lymphocytes. Your
1236
01:03:27.210 --> 01:03:31.530
T cells, all of your immune cells, right? And so
1237
01:03:31.690 --> 01:03:34.989
when it gets inside these cells, and you don't necessarily
1238
01:03:35.050 --> 01:03:36.590
have to see it on your blood work that you
1239
01:03:36.630 --> 01:03:41.719
have a quantitative deficiency, but you have a qualitative deficiency now.
1240
01:03:42.460 --> 01:03:45.539
So now you have spike inside these cells, and that's
1241
01:03:45.579 --> 01:03:49.360
why people can't fight off infection as well, right? So
1242
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:54.190
think about it. Why are middle-aged adults getting RSV? Like
1243
01:03:54.510 --> 01:03:57.329
prior to the pandemic, nobody in their 40s or 50s
1244
01:03:57.570 --> 01:03:59.219
ever had RSV. I was going to say. And the
1245
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:01.760
whole freaking town has it, right? Yeah. And what is
1246
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:05.900
this tripledemic of like people getting the flu, RSV, and
1247
01:04:05.940 --> 01:04:08.460
COVID all at one time? Like what is up with
1248
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:11.420
your immune system, right? And what is up with all
1249
01:04:11.460 --> 01:04:14.360
these people, like people that we're friends with that just
1250
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.519
like are getting sick multiple times in the winter. Like
1251
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:19.179
they had the flu, then they had COVID, then they
1252
01:04:19.219 --> 01:04:22.320
had three colds and they had bronchi, right? Why? And
1253
01:04:22.579 --> 01:04:25.300
also why it takes so much longer for the average
1254
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:28.300
person to get over that virus or kick it when
1255
01:04:28.340 --> 01:04:32.619
they used to not be able to. Because our immune
1256
01:04:32.659 --> 01:04:36.269
cells have been impacted and affected in many people. And
1257
01:04:36.369 --> 01:04:40.389
so we have to rebuild our immune resilient, we have
1258
01:04:40.409 --> 01:04:43.239
to be in resilience and really rebuild and get rid
1259
01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:45.619
of those bad cells and bring the new cells back,
1260
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:49.420
you know, without spiking it so that they can function properly.
1261
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:53.179
What's the best way to build that immune resilience back
1262
01:04:53.460 --> 01:04:54.679
after exposure?
1263
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:55.480
We're going to get there.
1264
01:04:55.860 --> 01:04:56.780
Okay. All right.
1265
01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.739
So that's like the end. So, so that, that covers
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01:04:59.780 --> 01:05:02.219
the immune. I didn't want you, we had to talk
1267
01:05:02.260 --> 01:05:06.219
about it, but yeah. And, and not to mention Dylan, like,
1268
01:05:06.659 --> 01:05:10.380
that also encompasses cancer. Like, why are we seeing so
1269
01:05:10.489 --> 01:05:13.010
many young, so everyone will say, oh, the cancer rate
1270
01:05:13.030 --> 01:05:14.750
was going up and up. Like, you know, it has
1271
01:05:14.769 --> 01:05:17.449
nothing to do with COVID, but no, that's BS. COVID
1272
01:05:17.489 --> 01:05:21.639
accelerated it. Like if you look, at how it jumped
1273
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:26.570
since 2020, 2021, compared to what the trajectory it was on.
1274
01:05:26.929 --> 01:05:30.150
And why are so many people, I have friends, friends
1275
01:05:30.210 --> 01:05:34.309
of friends, family, that were in complete remission from their cancers.
1276
01:05:34.889 --> 01:05:37.510
And now they have turbo stage four of that cancer.
1277
01:05:37.860 --> 01:05:41.659
They were in remission for 10, 15, 20 years. But now,
1278
01:05:42.019 --> 01:05:44.380
I don't know, how many coincidences can you have? I've
1279
01:05:44.420 --> 01:05:47.469
heard of 25 people in the last six months with
1280
01:05:47.510 --> 01:05:50.989
pancreatic cancer. The spike protein has a very high affinity,
1281
01:05:51.030 --> 01:05:54.079
and there's papers written on this too, of why it
1282
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:58.559
can cause pancreatic cancer. The spike protein takes out P53,
1283
01:05:58.699 --> 01:06:01.949
which is your tumor suppressor gene, right? That's your main
1284
01:06:01.989 --> 01:06:05.170
tumor suppressor gene. So that's what, I mean, I'm just
1285
01:06:05.190 --> 01:06:07.190
giving you a little, there's so many other reasons, like
1286
01:06:07.230 --> 01:06:11.050
in what it does to your interferon, interferon you know
1287
01:06:11.429 --> 01:06:13.849
one also like it all the things that would fight
1288
01:06:13.949 --> 01:06:17.280
or suppress cancers or suppress infections and all that stuff
1289
01:06:17.500 --> 01:06:21.260
are impacted by the spike protein okay does that make.
1290
01:06:21.099 --> 01:06:24.039
Sense yeah it does 100.
1291
01:06:23.300 --> 01:06:26.170
Let's quickly just talk about cardio and vascular because that's
1292
01:06:26.190 --> 01:06:33.320
yes why is the cardi, why is myocarditis, pericarditis, like,
1293
01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:37.679
why are all these young people dropping dead of heart
1294
01:06:37.699 --> 01:06:39.570
attacks or just getting heart attacks, right?
1295
01:06:39.590 --> 01:06:40.409
Yes, please.
1296
01:06:40.570 --> 01:06:42.670
Young ages, like, everyone comes up to me all the time, like,
1297
01:06:43.030 --> 01:06:46.110
oh my God, why, right? And not to mention, like,
1298
01:06:46.369 --> 01:06:50.829
the amount of athletes, especially in Europe, you know, in soccer,
1299
01:06:50.969 --> 01:06:55.039
football or soccer, football, football, soccer, you know, literally, like,
1300
01:06:55.409 --> 01:06:58.409
killing like dropping on the field you know and all
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01:06:58.429 --> 01:07:01.929
these young people it's like we've normalized young kids to
1302
01:07:01.969 --> 01:07:05.440
have cardiac arrest like on the soccer field and the
1303
01:07:05.500 --> 01:07:07.579
basketball I mean I don't know am I I know
1304
01:07:07.619 --> 01:07:09.579
I'm not the only one seeing this it's it's no
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01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:12.920
no and if you try to think before pre-pandemic like
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that was like one in a million you know that
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01:07:15.260 --> 01:07:19.070
wasn't like story after story And so it's because the
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01:07:19.090 --> 01:07:24.730
spike protein embeds itself in the epithelium, in the endothelium, right?
1309
01:07:24.769 --> 01:07:27.429
And the endothelial cells are what is what makes up
1310
01:07:27.510 --> 01:07:31.869
your vasculature, right? And then especially, you know, if you
1311
01:07:31.889 --> 01:07:35.969
think about your cardiovascular system, I mean, vascular affects everything.
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01:07:36.010 --> 01:07:38.619
Like that's why there's a lot of issues with kidney
1313
01:07:38.659 --> 01:07:42.079
disease now. And, you know, it's everywhere. The cardiomyocytes are
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01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:45.380
very sensitive to the spike protein. Those are your cells
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01:07:45.820 --> 01:07:46.260
in your heart.
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01:07:46.659 --> 01:07:46.940
Right.
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01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:49.940
And so that's why we've seen such an uptick in
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01:07:49.980 --> 01:07:53.500
slew of myocarditis, pericarditis, you know, more in men, but
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01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:55.980
even women. I mean, I had a female patient the
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01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:58.519
other day that's coming to me for long COVID. And
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01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:02.059
it all started after she had the I can't remember
1322
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:04.099
if it was a vaccine or the infection. And and
1323
01:08:04.219 --> 01:08:07.239
she had pericarditis. And then after that, it all went
1324
01:08:07.260 --> 01:08:10.780
to crap for her. And she's never been the same since.
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01:08:10.900 --> 01:08:13.829
She was hysterical, crying in my office. She's 25 years old.
1326
01:08:13.869 --> 01:08:16.550
She doesn't have a life. But anyway, that's why. It's
1327
01:08:16.569 --> 01:08:20.289
because you have this low-grade endotheliitis or inflammation of the
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01:08:20.329 --> 01:08:24.939
blood vessel wall that's activating platelets, you know, chemokines. Things
1329
01:08:24.979 --> 01:08:28.720
are coming, clots are forming, you know, things that shouldn't
1330
01:08:28.739 --> 01:08:32.960
be happening normally. And it's perpetuating, you know, an event,
1331
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:36.060
you know, and strokes, you know, strokes because of the
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01:08:36.100 --> 01:08:36.909
clotting as well.
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01:08:37.329 --> 01:08:37.590
Mm-hmm.
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01:08:38.789 --> 01:08:43.810
Okay. And vascular. So lastly, the vasculature. So what's happening?
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01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:46.659
So I feel like people have heard me talk about
1336
01:08:46.699 --> 01:08:48.399
these microcloths. Do you see these?
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01:08:48.699 --> 01:08:50.699
Yeah.
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01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:55.189
Okay. So when the clotting cascade gets activated by this,
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01:08:55.529 --> 01:08:58.090
you know, by that, what I was explaining, that endothelitis,
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01:08:58.130 --> 01:09:00.829
that inflammation of the blood vessel wall, right? You have
1341
01:09:00.909 --> 01:09:05.109
all these platelets get activated, you know, the clotting cascade
1342
01:09:05.140 --> 01:09:09.340
gets activated and then these clots get formed and they're
1343
01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:12.300
sort of like a beta amyloid. That's why they're green.
1344
01:09:12.659 --> 01:09:16.380
This is amyloid. And this is under a fluorescent microscope.
1345
01:09:16.539 --> 01:09:20.800
So when those clots start to form, the normal mechanisms
1346
01:09:21.140 --> 01:09:25.199
that our body uses to break down clots, these clots
1347
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:29.630
are resistant to that. The process is called fibrinolysis. Our body,
1348
01:09:30.050 --> 01:09:34.130
it's resistant to typical mechanisms of fibrinolysis. It can't break
1349
01:09:34.210 --> 01:09:39.630
these down. So prior to the pandemic, Raisa Pretorius, I
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01:09:39.670 --> 01:09:42.109
don't want to mess up her name. She's in, you know,
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01:09:42.149 --> 01:09:47.409
major academic institution in South Africa. She's protocolized microcloths. And
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01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:51.619
microcloths in normal people are, I mean, in a healthy
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01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:54.319
person are normal to a very certain extent. You could
1354
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:57.979
get this protein misfolding where you have these beta amyloid,
1355
01:09:58.060 --> 01:10:01.510
this beta, but very minimal, right? So on a grading
1356
01:10:01.569 --> 01:10:04.149
scale of one through four, like a healthy person might
1357
01:10:04.189 --> 01:10:05.329
be a one or two. Sure.
1358
01:10:05.350 --> 01:10:05.569
Right.
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01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.649
And then she looked at patients that were very, very
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01:10:08.779 --> 01:10:13.210
ill with like end-stage diabetes, like refractory heart failure, you know,
1361
01:10:13.289 --> 01:10:16.449
very sick, ill patients. And they make these. And then
1362
01:10:16.489 --> 01:10:20.350
they found that patients that didn't get over COVID were
1363
01:10:20.409 --> 01:10:25.829
making these also. Okay. And so this should look black.
1364
01:10:25.850 --> 01:10:28.529
You see, like, it really should look black like that.
1365
01:10:28.899 --> 01:10:32.020
And you see all this lighting up? Yeah. Right. Right.
1366
01:10:32.390 --> 01:10:34.829
So that you need a fluorescent microscope, which is a
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01:10:34.850 --> 01:10:37.289
very expensive piece of equipment. And only three people in
1368
01:10:37.310 --> 01:10:41.930
the U S are trained by, uh, Pretoria by Lisa.
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01:10:41.989 --> 01:10:47.310
This patient has many like everywhere. And so, and she's
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01:10:47.329 --> 01:10:52.810
a grade 3.5 out of four. Oh, so that's not normal.
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01:10:53.100 --> 01:10:55.739
So the, the other goal is like, we need, we
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01:10:55.779 --> 01:10:59.550
need to, Like everyone's like, oh, give triple anticoagulation. That
1373
01:10:59.590 --> 01:11:01.609
can help break them up. Maybe to a certain degree.
1374
01:11:01.649 --> 01:11:04.939
I'm not saying it can't. Again, they're resistant. They're not
1375
01:11:05.020 --> 01:11:08.479
regular clots. They're beta amyloid clots. You know, they're not regular.
1376
01:11:08.819 --> 01:11:11.199
Like when a person like presents with a clot, you know,
1377
01:11:11.220 --> 01:11:14.340
like a pulmonary embolism or DVT, you know, prior to
1378
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:16.590
the pandemic, those clots are not made of that. This
1379
01:11:16.670 --> 01:11:19.630
is a different, you know, these clots are different. So
1380
01:11:19.949 --> 01:11:23.289
the normal mechanisms of how we would treat clots is
1381
01:11:23.390 --> 01:11:26.439
sort of like out the door, although triple anticoagulation band-aids
1382
01:11:26.569 --> 01:11:29.560
it and it will help, you know, with breaking up
1383
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:32.060
the clots, but it's not getting in the root cause
1384
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:33.539
because you're still going to make them because you didn't
1385
01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:34.619
get rid of the spike protein.
1386
01:11:34.819 --> 01:11:35.220
Right.
1387
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:38.420
All right. So now we can talk about treatment. I
1388
01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:40.289
could talk to you for four hours about this, but
1389
01:11:40.329 --> 01:11:44.289
I just wanted to get a few of those points across. Okay.
1390
01:11:44.750 --> 01:11:47.829
so that you can sort of understand how it's such
1391
01:11:47.890 --> 01:11:51.789
a monster, right? The disease process itself and how the
1392
01:11:51.829 --> 01:11:55.399
spike protein and the virus behave, you know? And although
1393
01:11:55.409 --> 01:12:00.020
the virus is not pathogenic, meaning you're likely not going
1394
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.159
to wind up in the hospital, God willing, you won't.
1395
01:12:02.500 --> 01:12:06.279
But with each mutation, it becomes more and more transmissible
1396
01:12:06.659 --> 01:12:09.770
and more contagious. And the studies have shown that the
1397
01:12:09.810 --> 01:12:13.539
newer Omicron variants cause more damage to the heart. cause
1398
01:12:13.579 --> 01:12:16.369
more damage to the brain and it's happening at a
1399
01:12:16.529 --> 01:12:19.930
cellular level so it's almost like a silent killer because
1400
01:12:19.989 --> 01:12:23.310
we don't know it's really happening right when it's happening
1401
01:12:23.659 --> 01:12:25.100
so that's what's going.
1402
01:12:24.979 --> 01:12:29.939
On unbelievable pretty much okay well that's a lot are
1403
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:34.119
you okay Well, it's just so much going on that
1404
01:12:34.180 --> 01:12:37.420
no one would ever have any clue about. Yeah, I'm
1405
01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:40.619
a little disturbed by everything, but I'm glad to know.
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01:12:42.500 --> 01:12:46.159
It's very troubling to really... Well, here's the two parts
1407
01:12:46.189 --> 01:12:48.170
that are troubling to me. One is the amount of
1408
01:12:48.489 --> 01:12:51.210
shit that's going on. But two, it's the lack of
1409
01:12:51.289 --> 01:12:54.090
amount of education that we actually have on this that's
1410
01:12:54.149 --> 01:12:57.170
actually discussed in this detail. I wouldn't have known a
1411
01:12:57.289 --> 01:12:58.090
fraction of this.
1412
01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:02.350
Yeah and and and not having the assays if you
1413
01:13:02.409 --> 01:13:05.329
could if people could test right because that's the other
1414
01:13:05.350 --> 01:13:08.369
thing too like it's like why did this woman after
1415
01:13:08.390 --> 01:13:10.189
the vaccine or after the virus all of a sudden
1416
01:13:10.210 --> 01:13:12.789
develop dementia out of nowhere or why did this person
1417
01:13:12.829 --> 01:13:15.229
develop or get a heart attack or why did this
1418
01:13:15.300 --> 01:13:17.920
person develop a crazy autoimmune disease or what like if
1419
01:13:17.979 --> 01:13:22.649
you could test and like Figure out that person's unique blueprint, right?
1420
01:13:23.430 --> 01:13:26.510
And figure out like, oh, okay, spike protein in this
1421
01:13:26.569 --> 01:13:29.810
person is living in these cells, right? It's throwing off
1422
01:13:29.909 --> 01:13:32.949
these types of toxin-like peptides and have this unique gut
1423
01:13:33.069 --> 01:13:37.199
immune imprint, that blueprint rather, that you can discover. Then
1424
01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:40.659
you can back into it with more personalized treatment for
1425
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:41.199
those people.
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01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:43.939
Okay. Well, then let's talk about, we said we'd talk
1427
01:13:43.979 --> 01:13:46.140
about how to build back your immunity and then how
1428
01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:46.560
to treat.
1429
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:52.000
Yeah. So, OK, nothing's nothing's foolproof. Right. And of course,
1430
01:13:52.140 --> 01:13:55.460
I find that people with mild disease or people that
1431
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:58.680
feel good take care of themselves like someone like you, me. Right.
1432
01:13:59.100 --> 01:14:02.520
Like I keep myself on a low level protocol all
1433
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:04.760
the time. And then what I do is, is when
1434
01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:08.279
I get exposed, then I like ramp it up. Right.
1435
01:14:08.380 --> 01:14:08.640
Right.
1436
01:14:09.020 --> 01:14:11.149
You know, whatever. Even if I even if I'm not sure,
1437
01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:12.930
because right. Look what you just said, by the way,
1438
01:14:12.970 --> 01:14:15.430
you're like two of my tests were positive. And three,
1439
01:14:15.470 --> 01:14:17.989
if there wasn't just assume you have it and take it.
1440
01:14:17.989 --> 01:14:18.869
Yeah, absolutely.
1441
01:14:18.909 --> 01:14:21.630
Because here's the thing. People are getting infected with it
1442
01:14:21.689 --> 01:14:24.470
like two, three times a year. Right. And to be
1443
01:14:24.529 --> 01:14:27.909
quite honest with you, all of these compounds, these natural
1444
01:14:28.029 --> 01:14:33.600
polyphenols have great activity against a lot of viruses, RNA viruses,
1445
01:14:33.699 --> 01:14:36.090
all these things. So like, just take it. It's not
1446
01:14:36.109 --> 01:14:38.489
going to hurt you. And the vast majority of people
1447
01:14:38.529 --> 01:14:41.270
that get on these, these, you know, these different compounds
1448
01:14:41.310 --> 01:14:43.449
and things, they feel better so much faster, no matter
1449
01:14:43.489 --> 01:14:45.770
what they're, no matter what they're suffering from.
1450
01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:49.640
Right. Yeah. A hundred percent. Well, what I get, what
1451
01:14:49.699 --> 01:14:51.880
I ran from you work like a charm. So let's
1452
01:14:51.939 --> 01:14:54.680
just get into, let's talk about what you put me on.
1453
01:14:54.699 --> 01:14:58.239
Let's talk about prophylactics first, right? Let's talk about it. Like,
1454
01:14:58.300 --> 01:15:00.699
it's so silly, like not to, Okay.
1455
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:04.579
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What is prophylactic? Not everybody knows. Okay.
1456
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:05.319
Prevention.
1457
01:15:05.579 --> 01:15:05.819
Right.
1458
01:15:06.140 --> 01:15:07.760
I told you to yell at me. I know.
1459
01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:09.000
Well, not everybody knows.
1460
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:10.890
So I want you to yell at me. That's what
1461
01:15:10.930 --> 01:15:15.750
I told you. So let's talk about prevention. Right. So
1462
01:15:15.789 --> 01:15:21.079
how can we prevent ourselves from getting sick or, you know, So, okay.
1463
01:15:21.300 --> 01:15:25.029
First of all, you want to have adequate vitamin D levels, right?
1464
01:15:25.069 --> 01:15:27.270
You have a vitamin D receptor for everything. Every cell
1465
01:15:27.289 --> 01:15:29.369
in your body has vitamin D receptors and we know
1466
01:15:29.409 --> 01:15:32.399
that it helps. It's an antimicrobial, all that stuff. I'm
1467
01:15:32.439 --> 01:15:36.000
a big believer too, if you're a middle-aged adult, you
1468
01:15:36.220 --> 01:15:38.539
start to lose your melatonin starting at the age of
1469
01:15:38.579 --> 01:15:41.770
like 18, 19 years old, right? Melatonin is a hormone,
1470
01:15:42.029 --> 01:15:45.989
and yes, it helps regulate our circadian rhythms, our circadian clock,
1471
01:15:46.050 --> 01:15:52.060
but it also is a very, very potent antioxidant, antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory.
1472
01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:56.079
And the studies that we looked at really show that
1473
01:15:56.140 --> 01:15:59.060
it helps restore health and balance to that blood-brain barrier.
1474
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:03.829
It helps repair the astrocytes. And the glymphatic system. So
1475
01:16:04.050 --> 01:16:07.670
I'm a big proponent of melatonin. You know, I have
1476
01:16:07.789 --> 01:16:11.529
no issue sleeping, but I take three milligrams at night. Yeah,
1477
01:16:11.569 --> 01:16:11.890
why not?
1478
01:16:12.090 --> 01:16:14.590
Well, everybody thinks it's only for sleeping. And I'm glad
1479
01:16:14.630 --> 01:16:16.529
you just brought that up because that's just not the
1480
01:16:16.550 --> 01:16:17.609
case at all.
1481
01:16:17.649 --> 01:16:22.729
Yeah, it's like, it's so powerful. It's funny, Dylan. At
1482
01:16:22.770 --> 01:16:25.810
the beginning of the pandemic, I was obsessed with COVID
1483
01:16:25.850 --> 01:16:28.229
and I actually thought I had it. And then they
1484
01:16:28.250 --> 01:16:31.520
didn't let me, so I got sick. Right at the beginning,
1485
01:16:31.529 --> 01:16:36.819
because I took a trip to another functional medicine practice
1486
01:16:36.859 --> 01:16:39.359
that I was whatever I was talking to them. And,
1487
01:16:39.699 --> 01:16:41.720
you know, you know, they were gracious enough to let
1488
01:16:41.739 --> 01:16:44.020
me come. And I debated getting on the plane and
1489
01:16:44.050 --> 01:16:46.310
I was like wrapped like five thousand times around with
1490
01:16:46.350 --> 01:16:48.649
my scarf. And I I knew it was coming. It
1491
01:16:48.670 --> 01:16:50.250
was the very beginning of March. But I had been
1492
01:16:50.289 --> 01:16:53.949
following it from like January in China because my my.
1493
01:16:55.170 --> 01:16:57.899
husband at the time, he was also doing a lot
1494
01:16:57.909 --> 01:17:00.619
of business in China. So he was getting pictures and
1495
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.380
videos and all the craziness that was going on there.
1496
01:17:03.420 --> 01:17:05.260
So I was like, oh, my God, like, there's no
1497
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:06.239
way it's not coming here.
1498
01:17:06.420 --> 01:17:07.119
You know, right.
1499
01:17:07.300 --> 01:17:10.720
Anyway, so I had this, this feeling that right around
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01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:12.500
that my trip, it was like, it was, it was
1501
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:15.100
like any day, which it was, because like the next
1502
01:17:15.159 --> 01:17:16.960
week it came. So I was so I wouldn't even
1503
01:17:17.020 --> 01:17:19.039
use the bathroom, nothing. I was like, just like this.
1504
01:17:19.239 --> 01:17:21.539
But anyway, I got sick, there was this guy coughing
1505
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:24.859
all like insanity, like three rows in front of me.
1506
01:17:24.890 --> 01:17:26.329
And I'm like, I'm totally going to get it. So
1507
01:17:26.409 --> 01:17:28.670
four days later I get sick. And at that point
1508
01:17:28.710 --> 01:17:31.789
that at that point, the incubation period was like four to,
1509
01:17:31.949 --> 01:17:33.829
you know, four to seven days. And I got this
1510
01:17:33.890 --> 01:17:36.390
horrible upper, I didn't get a cough. I didn't de-sat
1511
01:17:36.449 --> 01:17:37.939
nothing like that, but I had a horror. I never
1512
01:17:37.979 --> 01:17:40.159
really get sick. And I was like such a terrible
1513
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:43.420
upper respiratory thing, but like awful, you know? And they
1514
01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:44.939
wouldn't let me come back to work. Cause at that
1515
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:46.779
point when I was still sick, they were like, yep,
1516
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:48.039
you're not coming back to work. We don't know if
1517
01:17:48.060 --> 01:17:48.859
you have COVID or not.
1518
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:49.439
Right.
1519
01:17:49.779 --> 01:17:54.010
I was home. obsessed with COVID, like attending like every,
1520
01:17:54.329 --> 01:17:58.949
like any like world renowned virologist from Italy, Germany, wherever
1521
01:17:58.970 --> 01:18:01.930
it was like on, on the zoom, you know, on
1522
01:18:01.949 --> 01:18:07.130
the webinar, like try and understand how this freaking virus works. Like,
1523
01:18:07.470 --> 01:18:11.409
you know, learning about the receptor binding domain, the furin cleavage,
1524
01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:13.939
like anything, you know, and like all these words were like,
1525
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.659
you know, I'm not an immunologist or a virologist, but
1526
01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:19.399
I became one really fast. So I like, So I
1527
01:18:19.420 --> 01:18:21.979
learn all this stuff and then I write this primer,
1528
01:18:22.020 --> 01:18:24.100
but no one knows who I am. So it's like,
1529
01:18:24.140 --> 01:18:26.279
I put it on my, like on my terrain site
1530
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:28.270
and I'm like, Oh, maybe my friends and family read it.
1531
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:31.890
And it's every like natural compound, like, and it talks
1532
01:18:31.899 --> 01:18:35.909
about melatonin, like every single thing that works, you know,
1533
01:18:35.989 --> 01:18:39.329
cause these compounds like really work synergistically and they work
1534
01:18:39.430 --> 01:18:42.989
on a multitude of different pathways. Right. Yeah. How they,
1535
01:18:42.989 --> 01:18:47.779
block the receptor binding domain so that the virus can't
1536
01:18:47.779 --> 01:18:51.180
you know, get inside the cell and how it blocks
1537
01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:53.869
the fear and cleavage so that so that you can't
1538
01:18:53.909 --> 01:18:56.430
split into S1 and S2 and the virus, you know,
1539
01:18:56.470 --> 01:18:57.529
like all those things.
1540
01:18:57.590 --> 01:18:57.829
Right.
1541
01:18:58.189 --> 01:18:59.909
And I wrote about it. It's still on my site.
1542
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:02.640
But anyway, melatonin is a big part of it. And
1543
01:19:02.699 --> 01:19:05.739
so there's this amazing graph on melatonin where it looks
1544
01:19:05.779 --> 01:19:08.609
like this. It's like it's like swooping like this and
1545
01:19:08.689 --> 01:19:11.369
swooping like this. And it shows you that how when
1546
01:19:11.609 --> 01:19:15.909
as you lose melatonin, right, for each decade, you lose
1547
01:19:16.270 --> 01:19:19.390
so much melatonin. How you're, you have such a much
1548
01:19:19.430 --> 01:19:22.850
more increased risk of dying from COVID or getting COVID
1549
01:19:23.010 --> 01:19:27.029
or really any virus or deadly virus for that matter, right?
1550
01:19:27.149 --> 01:19:30.529
And it's because that's why the kids did so well,
1551
01:19:30.890 --> 01:19:34.069
you know, and were barely sick or asymptomatic because likely
1552
01:19:34.130 --> 01:19:35.550
because they have such high melatonin.
1553
01:19:35.569 --> 01:19:36.140
High melatonin, got it.
1554
01:19:36.189 --> 01:19:38.630
There's like a strong correlation, right?
1555
01:19:38.909 --> 01:19:39.390
Okay.
1556
01:19:39.529 --> 01:19:40.989
Yeah, you want melatonin. Okay.
1557
01:19:41.020 --> 01:19:41.300
Okay.
1558
01:19:41.939 --> 01:19:44.199
So, okay. So I don't even know why. Okay.
1559
01:19:44.220 --> 01:19:46.439
We got vitamin D and we got melatonin.
1560
01:19:46.460 --> 01:19:50.439
Right. So I give, I give a combination zinc CD
1561
01:19:50.819 --> 01:19:54.260
because for several reasons, all three of them are really
1562
01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:56.819
important for your gut microbiome. And we know that the
1563
01:19:56.840 --> 01:19:59.640
gut microbiome, like, well, I guess it's not fully because
1564
01:19:59.659 --> 01:20:01.300
I didn't go into a whole thing about it, but
1565
01:20:01.420 --> 01:20:05.380
that's like ground zero, right? Like the phages, the bacteria
1566
01:20:05.420 --> 01:20:08.239
phages are there, they're throwing off all these toxin like peptides.
1567
01:20:08.260 --> 01:20:11.560
You got really crazy leaky gut. It's, it's a disaster
1568
01:20:11.619 --> 01:20:15.119
in there. You know, so you have to kill the
1569
01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:18.439
bacteriophages also. Oh, wait, no, no, we're talking about prevention.
1570
01:20:18.579 --> 01:20:21.520
Don't go there yet. Okay, so go back to immune resilience.
1571
01:20:21.579 --> 01:20:24.260
So prevention. So zinc CD is great because that's going
1572
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:27.960
to help not only with keeping your intestinal mucosal barrier
1573
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:31.300
in check, but also it helps grow bifido. The C
1574
01:20:31.659 --> 01:20:34.260
especially helps with bifidobacteria growth. Okay.
1575
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:37.220
So zinc CD is that zinc, vitamin C and vitamin D.
1576
01:20:37.279 --> 01:20:37.840
Is that correct?
1577
01:20:37.899 --> 01:20:38.119
Yeah.
1578
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:40.420
Like it's, I, there's one that I found that has
1579
01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:43.140
all three of them in it. So great. So I
1580
01:20:43.180 --> 01:20:44.859
love that. And then some people would be like, oh
1581
01:20:44.890 --> 01:20:46.510
my God, there's no K2 in it. So then I'm like,
1582
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:48.109
cause they need D with the K. So I'm like,
1583
01:20:48.130 --> 01:20:50.770
get a little K2, like life extension has a K2.
1584
01:20:50.869 --> 01:20:54.189
It's fine. Okay. That's for prevention. Definitely. I think you
1585
01:20:54.210 --> 01:20:56.550
should just always be on some zinc CD. I just do.
1586
01:20:56.770 --> 01:20:57.010
Yeah.
1587
01:20:57.029 --> 01:20:57.710
A hundred percent.
1588
01:20:57.949 --> 01:20:59.430
And as long as you're not on too much zinc,
1589
01:20:59.470 --> 01:21:02.090
cause people always worry about like copper depletion, like you
1590
01:21:02.109 --> 01:21:04.090
should be okay. Like I don't like not more than
1591
01:21:04.090 --> 01:21:04.909
30 milligrams.
1592
01:21:05.329 --> 01:21:06.149
Okay.
1593
01:21:06.489 --> 01:21:12.119
So, and then I take the rhizo prophylactically also because it,
1594
01:21:12.550 --> 01:21:15.909
it has antimicrobial properties as well because what the sore
1595
01:21:15.989 --> 01:21:18.729
formers do, you know, and they have sort of like
1596
01:21:18.949 --> 01:21:22.699
quorum sensing capabilities, these, these specific types of bacteria. So
1597
01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:25.000
they know sort of where to like help fight infection
1598
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:29.800
and things like that. And then I also, the Medicinals 9.
1599
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:35.510
So the Medicinals 9 was patented. and formulated by the
1600
01:21:36.390 --> 01:21:38.949
guys I've done research with and worked with and I've
1601
01:21:38.970 --> 01:21:42.289
learned so much from back in January of 2020. They...
1602
01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:47.779
You know, Joachim Gerlach, he studied all of the different
1603
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:50.600
pathways and figured out there was these 250 to 300
1604
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:55.880
different pathways being impacted by SARS-CoV-2, right? And so what,
1605
01:21:55.979 --> 01:21:58.220
and then he looked at all the pathways and every
1606
01:21:58.300 --> 01:22:01.699
single thing that's impacted by the virus and then backed
1607
01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:05.479
in with the different types of natural compounds or polyphenol
1608
01:22:05.539 --> 01:22:09.199
compounds that can work synergistically on a multitude of all
1609
01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:13.850
these pathways, right? At the same time. Got it. has,
1610
01:22:14.210 --> 01:22:16.470
you know, and he formulated in such a way that
1611
01:22:16.510 --> 01:22:22.729
the bioavailability is much better, the way it's formulated. So
1612
01:22:22.770 --> 01:22:26.329
it's absorbed a lot better than like if you took
1613
01:22:26.369 --> 01:22:29.170
like a regular capsule of that same thing. And so
1614
01:22:29.189 --> 01:22:31.210
you don't even need as high of a dose and
1615
01:22:31.250 --> 01:22:36.770
things like that. So it has, you know, quercetin, rutin,
1616
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:44.569
You know, glycerin, hesperidin, bacillin, curcumin. I'm not going to...
1617
01:22:44.569 --> 01:22:47.430
I always... It's like, am I going to... Did I
1618
01:22:47.449 --> 01:22:51.170
say quercetin, rudin? I can't remember everything. Oh, piperine. Yeah.
1619
01:22:51.189 --> 01:22:53.810
I'm forgetting one other one. Anyway, the point is, is
1620
01:22:53.850 --> 01:22:57.520
that I... Love this product. I love it to help
1621
01:22:57.659 --> 01:23:01.100
build immune resilience. I love it for the gut. I
1622
01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:04.340
love it for general inflammation. You know, people that have
1623
01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:06.840
gone on it, even that have joint pain and joint inflammation,
1624
01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:10.000
say it helps them. You know, it helps reduce the
1625
01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:13.729
inflammation and the pain because of what those polyphenolic compounds do.
1626
01:23:13.750 --> 01:23:15.270
Okay, got it.
1627
01:23:15.369 --> 01:23:16.970
And I would say, I just want to preface it
1628
01:23:16.989 --> 01:23:20.060
like this. The Europeans and the Asians do much better
1629
01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:23.100
with this product because they're used to having this in
1630
01:23:23.140 --> 01:23:25.829
their diet and eating a certain way. Some of the
1631
01:23:26.149 --> 01:23:28.789
Americans are very sensitive when they start this product. So
1632
01:23:28.829 --> 01:23:31.250
I would tell you when you start to go low,
1633
01:23:31.329 --> 01:23:35.649
go slow. People that eat a very clean diet, that
1634
01:23:35.689 --> 01:23:39.609
have a really good strong gut microbiome, things like that,
1635
01:23:40.449 --> 01:23:43.170
they tolerate it much better. But very sick people, more
1636
01:23:43.210 --> 01:23:45.310
sensitive people, people that are used to eating more of
1637
01:23:45.340 --> 01:23:47.479
the standard American diet, It takes them a while. It
1638
01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:49.170
takes them a little bit to get used to it,
1639
01:23:49.300 --> 01:23:49.579
you know?
1640
01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:50.000
Okay.
1641
01:23:50.220 --> 01:23:52.579
So anyway, I take it a few days a week
1642
01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:56.180
with the rhizo as my preventative, right? And then if
1643
01:23:56.380 --> 01:23:59.199
I feel like something's coming on or I'm getting sick,
1644
01:23:59.399 --> 01:24:02.260
I then start taking it like the, the medicinals like
1645
01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:05.260
twice a day, every day. And the rhizo once a day,
1646
01:24:05.300 --> 01:24:10.600
every day. Anyway, so zinc CD, the rhizo, the medicinals,
1647
01:24:10.739 --> 01:24:12.739
and then, you know, I take a, you know, I
1648
01:24:13.130 --> 01:24:15.029
You know, other things that you would take for your
1649
01:24:15.069 --> 01:24:18.529
immune system. You know, like some people like black, you know,
1650
01:24:18.569 --> 01:24:21.829
black seed, the black, what is it? Black seed, black
1651
01:24:21.869 --> 01:24:24.909
seed oil, right? The black seed oil, yeah. Yeah, the black. So,
1652
01:24:25.020 --> 01:24:27.840
you know, I love, I also like omegas. I use
1653
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:32.579
a plant-based omega. I think that that's really good for
1654
01:24:32.619 --> 01:24:36.479
so many different things. Cardiovascular inflammation, your gut, all the
1655
01:24:36.520 --> 01:24:40.140
things too. What else do I take? I take, what
1656
01:24:40.180 --> 01:24:40.619
do you take?
1657
01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:41.300
Daily?
1658
01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:42.039
Yeah.
1659
01:24:42.970 --> 01:24:46.409
Um, I, what don't I take daily? I, I have
1660
01:24:46.430 --> 01:24:48.670
a pretty extensive list of things I tried to cut
1661
01:24:48.710 --> 01:24:50.670
down cause I was taking too much, but curcumin is
1662
01:24:50.710 --> 01:24:52.670
a big one that I take every day or turmeric.
1663
01:24:52.789 --> 01:24:54.850
Right. And that's in the medicinal.
1664
01:24:55.029 --> 01:24:58.170
Yeah. I take natto kinase, but that's for more for
1665
01:24:58.189 --> 01:25:01.220
my heart, you know, with everything that I do. I
1666
01:25:01.260 --> 01:25:04.300
do a dandelion root daily because I want the natural.
1667
01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:05.640
I love that. Yeah.
1668
01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:08.260
Just getting rid of excess water in the natural way
1669
01:25:08.340 --> 01:25:11.420
of natural diuretic wise. So I like to get rid
1670
01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:15.310
of that. Dr. Gundry had me start taking something because
1671
01:25:15.350 --> 01:25:18.119
I had told him about my LP little a citrus bergamot.
1672
01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:20.680
I started. Yeah. Yeah.
1673
01:25:21.020 --> 01:25:22.619
You know, what works great for life away is the
1674
01:25:22.720 --> 01:25:25.960
one MNA. Betsy talks about that a lot too. Yes.
1675
01:25:26.380 --> 01:25:29.000
You know, it's very hard to get my life away
1676
01:25:29.020 --> 01:25:33.579
is elevated also. And interestingly, post COVID and I, there's
1677
01:25:33.699 --> 01:25:36.439
studies written on this. I did a major literature search.
1678
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:39.739
The life away goes up. Not just because you have
1679
01:25:39.779 --> 01:25:42.859
the genetic, it's up because I noticed that way more
1680
01:25:42.899 --> 01:25:45.579
than 20% of the population, or at least what I'm
1681
01:25:45.699 --> 01:25:50.050
seeing in even my regular longevity patients, their life OA
1682
01:25:50.100 --> 01:25:52.979
is up. And the life OA goes up because of
1683
01:25:53.020 --> 01:25:56.289
what's happening with this endotheliitis and what I was talking about.
1684
01:25:56.470 --> 01:26:00.270
And there's papers now even a year out that show
1685
01:26:00.449 --> 01:26:03.829
it's elevated. It still will remain elevated. So the life
1686
01:26:03.890 --> 01:26:05.449
OA is a problem here too.
1687
01:26:06.189 --> 01:26:09.409
I've gotten mine from 330 down to 96 the last
1688
01:26:09.449 --> 01:26:10.649
time I checked it. What?
1689
01:26:10.810 --> 01:26:11.630
With the Bergamot?
1690
01:26:12.090 --> 01:26:12.329
No.
1691
01:26:12.850 --> 01:26:14.369
That is with.
1692
01:26:14.390 --> 01:26:16.829
I take Repatha and Vesepa and then.
1693
01:26:16.970 --> 01:26:19.109
You're taking Repatha. Yes.
1694
01:26:19.380 --> 01:26:22.100
But I've also done it with some natural thing. I
1695
01:26:22.140 --> 01:26:25.479
have a natural protocol that I've utilized. I did take
1696
01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:27.539
Niacin for a while. I stopped because I think that
1697
01:26:27.579 --> 01:26:29.060
was elevating my liver too much.
1698
01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:29.359
Right.
1699
01:26:29.460 --> 01:26:33.170
And the Niacin, I've never seen it work really great before.
1700
01:26:33.250 --> 01:26:39.520
No. I do... I do... Pomegranate juice is one of
1701
01:26:39.529 --> 01:26:41.859
the things that I do that's one of my secret sauces.
1702
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:44.439
I love pomegranate juice. I drink it here too in
1703
01:26:44.460 --> 01:26:44.859
my house.
1704
01:26:45.180 --> 01:26:47.060
Well, when I get that clearly done, that's going to
1705
01:26:47.100 --> 01:26:47.760
tell me a lot.
1706
01:26:48.140 --> 01:26:49.939
I know, I can't wait for you to get that clearly.
1707
01:26:50.140 --> 01:26:50.880
Yes, me too.
1708
01:26:50.899 --> 01:26:54.789
The Repatha has, you know, it has been, maybe the
1709
01:26:54.829 --> 01:26:56.829
combination with the other things you're doing, but the Repatha
1710
01:26:56.869 --> 01:26:59.390
itself has been shown to reduce the life away by 30%.
1711
01:26:59.390 --> 01:27:03.069
Yeah, Repatha and Vasipa both are 25 to 30%. And
1712
01:27:03.729 --> 01:27:06.380
I'm just kind of waiting for the, Eli Lilly's got
1713
01:27:06.399 --> 01:27:08.659
the one in trial that supposedly is doing like a
1714
01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:09.560
90 to 95%. Oh my God.
1715
01:27:09.659 --> 01:27:11.279
I'm going to have to go on that.
1716
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:12.039
Yeah.
1717
01:27:12.220 --> 01:27:13.699
All right. So anyway, I didn't mean to digress. So yeah.
1718
01:27:13.739 --> 01:27:17.159
And then, Oh, another, another thing too, is your B vitamins,
1719
01:27:17.180 --> 01:27:21.640
like a good B complex because so many people carry or,
1720
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:25.569
or either heterozygous or homozygous for the MTHFR mutation. They
1721
01:27:25.630 --> 01:27:28.310
either have one gene or both genes. And that also,
1722
01:27:28.369 --> 01:27:31.229
I feel like sets people up for the problems with,
1723
01:27:31.699 --> 01:27:34.520
You know, you know, COVID and post-COVID conditions because they
1724
01:27:34.579 --> 01:27:39.100
can't detoxify and move out the cytokine also or the virus.
1725
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:42.859
So I think, you know, that is another really important
1726
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:44.460
piece of the puzzle as well.
1727
01:27:44.539 --> 01:27:48.199
So this is our immunity builder prevention type of deal.
1728
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:50.779
And then, oh, wait, I have a few other little pearls.
1729
01:27:51.149 --> 01:27:55.789
So using povidone iodine, you know, like maybe before you
1730
01:27:55.850 --> 01:28:00.819
travel or before, you know, another repurposed drug, pentosin, some
1731
01:28:00.859 --> 01:28:03.380
of the compounding pharmacists make it in a nasal spray.
1732
01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:06.520
I think that's a great prophylactic because iodine you have
1733
01:28:06.539 --> 01:28:08.539
to be careful with, especially because if you use too
1734
01:28:08.579 --> 01:28:11.109
much of the povidone iodine, it will get absorbed. I
1735
01:28:11.149 --> 01:28:13.869
worry about it in my thyroid patients, especially because it
1736
01:28:13.890 --> 01:28:16.609
can impact your thyroid. If you're just doing it like
1737
01:28:16.750 --> 01:28:18.270
every once in a while, it should be fine. You
1738
01:28:18.289 --> 01:28:20.270
don't want to use it for like, more than like
1739
01:28:20.529 --> 01:28:22.310
two weeks in a row or anything like that. But
1740
01:28:22.390 --> 01:28:25.770
when you're using it so much, even sporadically, I noticed
1741
01:28:25.789 --> 01:28:27.970
there were some issues with the thyroid function tests on
1742
01:28:27.989 --> 01:28:30.600
some of my patients when they were using a lot
1743
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:34.439
of the, you know. So I like, pentosin is a very,
1744
01:28:34.579 --> 01:28:38.319
it's a polysaccharide. It's a very, very strong binder to
1745
01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:42.500
spike protein. Very. And it also acts as a weak anticoagulant.
1746
01:28:42.659 --> 01:28:45.079
So when I put people on my, that see me,
1747
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:47.529
I use Pentacin a little bit of a higher dose
1748
01:28:48.090 --> 01:28:50.590
for those two reasons, for the systemic effects on what
1749
01:28:50.609 --> 01:28:52.970
it does on the spike protein, but as a prophylactic
1750
01:28:53.170 --> 01:28:58.310
for a nose, a nasal spray. then it will bind. Well,
1751
01:28:58.470 --> 01:29:03.050
it won't let the, the spike, you know, access the epithelial,
1752
01:29:03.100 --> 01:29:07.479
the mucosa. Remember it's here. It's your, it's your oropharynx,
1753
01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:11.020
how the virus, how the virus really, or any virus
1754
01:29:11.060 --> 01:29:15.279
gains access to you and starts replicating. So I, and lastly,
1755
01:29:15.340 --> 01:29:18.779
I'll say the, the, my group, the, the guys I
1756
01:29:18.819 --> 01:29:21.220
work with that have developed a lot of these, you know,
1757
01:29:21.260 --> 01:29:24.640
products they have, they worked on a nasal spray. And
1758
01:29:24.659 --> 01:29:28.329
I think it's, it's, They're trying to get it manufactured
1759
01:29:28.350 --> 01:29:30.149
in the U.S. And as soon as that's done, oh,
1760
01:29:30.170 --> 01:29:31.909
my God, I would give that to everybody. It's a
1761
01:29:31.930 --> 01:29:34.869
Medicinals 9 nasal spray. It's wonderful.
1762
01:29:35.130 --> 01:29:36.449
Okay, so that's kind of our.
1763
01:29:36.550 --> 01:29:39.989
Those are good prophylactic. Oh, and one more thing, ivermectin.
1764
01:29:40.090 --> 01:29:41.569
I'm going to just talk about ivermectin.
1765
01:29:41.770 --> 01:29:44.689
Well, that's where I was going next was to the ivermectin.
1766
01:29:44.729 --> 01:29:48.430
So let's go there. There's been, you know, whatever. It's
1767
01:29:48.470 --> 01:29:50.670
like so politicized. It's so sad.
1768
01:29:51.130 --> 01:29:54.369
Let's just talk facts and not bullshit. How about that?
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So many papers.
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01:29:56.109 --> 01:29:56.470
Yeah.
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01:29:57.970 --> 01:30:00.109
So there have been so many papers. And then the
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01:30:00.189 --> 01:30:03.659
excuse that you hear in mainstream media or whatever is that, oh,
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it wasn't powered enough. This was flawed. For all the
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01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:09.159
flaws or whatever you want to have to say about
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01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:11.819
the hundreds of studies that have been published all over
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01:30:11.859 --> 01:30:16.229
the globe showing the efficacy of ivermectin, right? And I'm
1777
01:30:16.270 --> 01:30:18.590
not saying that it should be used alone and it's
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01:30:18.649 --> 01:30:21.779
a panacea. Okay. I'm not. When you use it, it
1779
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:24.020
should be used in combination for treatment.
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01:30:24.189 --> 01:30:24.510
Okay.
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01:30:24.810 --> 01:30:28.069
But it really helps, right? For all of those studies,
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01:30:28.130 --> 01:30:31.010
the studies that were done in England and in the
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01:30:31.050 --> 01:30:34.609
United States that showed it wasn't efficacious. I want to
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01:30:34.729 --> 01:30:39.350
make this clear. Those studies were very flawed because when
1785
01:30:39.390 --> 01:30:43.409
they studied the ivermectin in the patients, okay, There were
1786
01:30:43.510 --> 01:30:47.560
so many different things, everything from the way they dosed it.
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01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:51.819
It was so underdosed. It's a weight-based dosing. It was
1788
01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:56.680
underdosed in the vast majority of all the patients receiving it, okay?
1789
01:30:57.020 --> 01:31:00.479
It was given the wrong way. You have to eat
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01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:05.270
it with food, especially like fat. It is much more bioavailable.
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01:31:05.550 --> 01:31:09.970
It was given on an empty stomach, okay? Mm-hmm. they
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01:31:10.130 --> 01:31:13.390
introduced it too late in many people. Like there's just so,
1793
01:31:13.430 --> 01:31:16.930
there were so many flaws in these major studies that fine.
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01:31:16.970 --> 01:31:18.770
If you want to say there were flaws in these studies,
1795
01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:20.909
you need to also, you know, man up and say
1796
01:31:20.939 --> 01:31:24.020
there were flaws in these studies, you know, that's not cool. Right.
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01:31:24.300 --> 01:31:28.359
But you have so many studies showing good outcomes. Like
1798
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:30.779
why would you not use it? It's safe. It is
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01:31:30.859 --> 01:31:33.619
so safe. It is such a safe medicine. It won
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01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:36.020
the Nobel peace prize in 2000. Is it 15 or 17? Yeah.
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01:31:39.810 --> 01:31:42.850
And it's not just an anti-parasitic. By the way, as
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01:31:42.890 --> 01:31:47.989
a gastroenterologist for 15 plus years, I used ivermectin a
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01:31:48.069 --> 01:31:51.829
lot to treat patients that had parasites. And I never,
1804
01:31:52.090 --> 01:31:54.250
ever heard of it being called a horse dewormer.
1805
01:31:54.609 --> 01:31:56.109
No, no.
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01:31:56.189 --> 01:31:59.229
You were able to like flip it on the mass
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01:31:59.270 --> 01:32:02.399
populace and say it's a horse dewormer. Like I never
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01:32:02.449 --> 01:32:04.479
even as a doctor heard it was used that way.
1809
01:32:04.520 --> 01:32:06.920
I didn't even know they used it in horses.
1810
01:32:07.310 --> 01:32:13.949
Well, Robin, it is a disruptor to the financial side of,
1811
01:32:14.130 --> 01:32:16.149
you know, big pharma, whatever the hell you want to
1812
01:32:16.170 --> 01:32:17.949
call it. I don't even like to say that because
1813
01:32:17.989 --> 01:32:21.329
it sounds so just blah. It's the drug companies. It's
1814
01:32:21.369 --> 01:32:24.329
a disruptor to the drug companies, which in turn, all
1815
01:32:24.350 --> 01:32:26.449
of the people they pay then go put out this
1816
01:32:26.630 --> 01:32:29.739
bullshit to try to convince people. And so everybody follows
1817
01:32:29.779 --> 01:32:32.439
suit like little sheep. without doing their research. And then
1818
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:34.579
what they tried to do, which they can't do anymore,
1819
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:36.939
is block us from talking about it. Now they can't
1820
01:32:36.979 --> 01:32:39.640
do that anymore. Now everybody knows, the secret's out.
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01:32:40.140 --> 01:32:44.210
So, okay. So the point is, is that as a
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01:32:44.310 --> 01:32:48.010
treatment in conjunction with other things, it could be wonderful.
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01:32:48.050 --> 01:32:51.810
That's first of all. Sure, yeah. But as a prophylactic,
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01:32:52.250 --> 01:32:55.510
I mean, I found the studies to be very compelling.
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01:32:55.970 --> 01:32:58.489
And then there was the one study done in Brazil.
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01:32:58.710 --> 01:33:01.189
Pierre Corey is an author on it. What's his name?
1827
01:33:01.220 --> 01:33:02.880
You know, there's a bunch of guys that were at
1828
01:33:02.909 --> 01:33:05.899
the FLCC that are on there too. And they looked
1829
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:12.439
at Brazilian people, like in the population that were given,
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01:33:12.460 --> 01:33:14.659
and they had two groups. They had a group that
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01:33:14.699 --> 01:33:17.979
was given it as a preventative, right? And they were
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01:33:18.060 --> 01:33:22.000
dosed weight-based at, 0.2 milligrams per kilogram, and they took
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01:33:22.060 --> 01:33:25.270
it twice a week, every other week, okay? And then
1834
01:33:25.310 --> 01:33:27.909
they had the control group that didn't take it at all,
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01:33:28.270 --> 01:33:31.970
all right? And even in the patients that were given it,
1836
01:33:32.329 --> 01:33:34.869
a lot of those patients, and they talk about this
1837
01:33:34.930 --> 01:33:38.289
in the study, weren't even compliant, right? But they were
1838
01:33:38.329 --> 01:33:40.720
taking it to some degree, whether it was one a
1839
01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:44.779
month or two, whatever, okay? And they found such a
1840
01:33:45.180 --> 01:33:50.880
marked statistical significance in everything from mortality, to having to
1841
01:33:50.920 --> 01:33:54.819
be in the ICU, to hospitalization or hospital length of
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01:33:54.840 --> 01:34:00.399
the hospital stay, actually getting the virus or not, or
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01:34:00.689 --> 01:34:02.390
if you got it, how many days you were sick.
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01:34:02.489 --> 01:34:06.449
Every one of those parameters performed, the people performed so
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01:34:06.489 --> 01:34:09.130
much better in the group that got it. And remember
1846
01:34:09.149 --> 01:34:12.430
where this comes from. The reason why they started using
1847
01:34:12.529 --> 01:34:17.010
it was because they you the some doctors globally were
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01:34:17.069 --> 01:34:20.529
really smart and were like, wow, nobody in Africa is
1849
01:34:20.609 --> 01:34:24.279
getting COVID. Why is that? Because or a lot of
1850
01:34:24.319 --> 01:34:26.840
people weren't right. And then they they figured out that
1851
01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:30.199
these men, mostly men that were really not good, you know,
1852
01:34:30.220 --> 01:34:32.520
and they were, you know, most men did way worse
1853
01:34:32.579 --> 01:34:34.460
than women to write in the rest of the world.
1854
01:34:34.819 --> 01:34:38.199
They weren't getting it because They were getting it for
1855
01:34:38.539 --> 01:34:41.880
prevention of what's called river blindness. It's this, you know,
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01:34:41.939 --> 01:34:44.020
in the rivers, they pick up, I think from the
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01:34:44.060 --> 01:34:48.479
fish or in the river itself, a parasite that causes blindness.
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01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:51.859
And so they're dosed a few times a year, not
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01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:54.180
like nearly as much as I'm just saying, but a
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01:34:54.220 --> 01:34:57.220
few times a year with this. And that was enough
1861
01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:02.050
to prevent like major outbreaks and disease. So that's how
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01:35:02.090 --> 01:35:02.859
it all came about.
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01:35:03.649 --> 01:35:04.470
Wow.
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You know, guys like Pierre Corey and all these people that, God,
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01:35:08.229 --> 01:35:12.829
they were freedom fighters, right? Yeah. And they got such crap. But, like,
1866
01:35:13.050 --> 01:35:16.260
it's so sad. Because I will tell you, all of
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01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:18.920
the patients that I have had on it and then
1868
01:35:18.939 --> 01:35:21.319
the patients that I did treat with some of the
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01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:26.020
other things, they all did great, you know? Yeah. So.
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01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:28.600
Well, what I would like to do, since we're running
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01:35:28.659 --> 01:35:29.159
out of time.
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01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:30.460
Yeah, I'm sorry.
1873
01:35:30.500 --> 01:35:34.020
No, no, but... What I want to do is, if
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01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:36.100
you want to, and I'd love to do this, we'll
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01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:39.739
do a part two where we discuss long COVID, the vaccine,
1876
01:35:39.859 --> 01:35:42.789
and more on ivermectin in greater detail so we can
1877
01:35:42.829 --> 01:35:44.689
get into that and do a whole episode on that
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01:35:44.710 --> 01:35:46.729
because I think that that will be a good follow-up
1879
01:35:46.770 --> 01:35:48.859
to this where we kind of covered all of COVID.
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01:35:49.229 --> 01:35:51.750
what it was, how to treat it, all of that.
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01:35:51.770 --> 01:35:53.729
And then we can follow up with the second part
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01:35:53.789 --> 01:35:55.630
and do all of that. Cause that'll be great.
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01:35:56.029 --> 01:35:58.829
A big part of the, of the, of the segment
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01:35:58.850 --> 01:36:02.880
in the beginning was gut stuff. So the last part
1885
01:36:02.920 --> 01:36:05.159
I'll say is, is the treatment, right? Just really fast.
1886
01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:07.479
So the really quick, I can do this in five minutes.
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01:36:07.520 --> 01:36:11.529
So the idea is that you want to You have
1888
01:36:11.569 --> 01:36:13.130
to do this safely and you have to have all
1889
01:36:13.149 --> 01:36:16.579
the things on board sort of simultaneously. We just talked
1890
01:36:16.600 --> 01:36:19.479
about proplastics. So this is more, we won't get into
1891
01:36:19.500 --> 01:36:22.460
acute treatment. Acute treatment's different. We'll talk about that next time.
1892
01:36:22.479 --> 01:36:24.359
But let's talk about if you go on to have
1893
01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:27.199
long COVID or something, right? Or how could you maybe
1894
01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:29.020
start to feel a little bit better or move the
1895
01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:32.279
needle if you're not really that sick, right? So you
1896
01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:35.659
want to mobilize spike protein. Okay, two things. You want
1897
01:36:35.699 --> 01:36:38.859
to get the bacteria out of your gut, right? So
1898
01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:41.119
the only studies to date, and I'm going to cringe
1899
01:36:41.149 --> 01:36:44.670
when I say this, is using antibiotics to kill the
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01:36:44.729 --> 01:36:48.069
bacteriophages because nothing else is going to kill the bacteria.
1901
01:36:48.109 --> 01:36:52.890
There's probably some natural products and antimicrobials, but that wasn't studied.
1902
01:36:52.949 --> 01:36:56.159
So Bronya et al., they studied it, and they showed
1903
01:36:56.220 --> 01:37:01.079
that the amoxicillin, 875 twice a day for a week.
1904
01:37:01.460 --> 01:37:07.140
If you're penallergic, Zithromax. 500 for the first day, 250
1905
01:37:07.140 --> 01:37:09.819
for the next six days. Plus or minus, you can
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01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:14.439
add Xifaxanin or Rifaxamin for those seven days. I don't
1907
01:37:14.500 --> 01:37:17.590
tend to do it because I feel like when I'm
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01:37:17.649 --> 01:37:20.909
using the medicinals, I use the medicinals in combination with
1909
01:37:20.949 --> 01:37:24.170
the antibiotic and it works really good, you know, like
1910
01:37:24.270 --> 01:37:26.869
acting more like Augmentin than Amoxicillin, if that makes sense.
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01:37:27.670 --> 01:37:30.189
So that's how you kill the, that's how you can
1912
01:37:30.229 --> 01:37:33.970
kill the phages. Okay. Okay. And then now you want
1913
01:37:33.989 --> 01:37:36.369
to deal with spike protein. So, okay, you need to
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01:37:36.630 --> 01:37:41.130
break open these senescent cells, right, with senolytics. You have
1915
01:37:41.149 --> 01:37:43.649
to have binders on board that are then going to
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01:37:43.869 --> 01:37:47.430
quickly bind the spike protein because remember what I told you,
1917
01:37:47.829 --> 01:37:51.310
spike protein is a magnet for any cell. So any
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01:37:51.409 --> 01:37:54.789
healthy cell in the area, that spike is going to
1919
01:37:54.829 --> 01:37:57.760
then try to go find, attach to, and get into, right?
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01:37:58.199 --> 01:38:00.890
So you have the binders on board, but you also
1921
01:38:00.970 --> 01:38:04.470
have in the Medicinals 9, those compounds, many of them
1922
01:38:04.550 --> 01:38:09.840
are receptor binding domain blockers. So they'll block healthy cells
1923
01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:12.229
in the area. They'll block the receptor so that site
1924
01:38:12.239 --> 01:38:15.750
can't get in, right? And then you also have a
1925
01:38:15.789 --> 01:38:18.640
lot of, you don't want S1 to slip from S2,
1926
01:38:18.689 --> 01:38:23.409
the furin cleavage, right? There's furin inhibitors built in also
1927
01:38:23.529 --> 01:38:27.210
to the Medicinals 9. So you basically have the Medicinals
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01:38:27.210 --> 01:38:31.239
9 as your backbone. Then you have the binders, the
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01:38:31.340 --> 01:38:34.939
extra binder, which is the sequestral, and you have the senolytic.
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Eight of the nine polyphenol compounds in the Medicinals 9
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are also natural binders, and four of the eight are
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01:38:46.180 --> 01:38:50.399
natural senolytics. But we put an extra product, which are
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01:38:50.460 --> 01:38:58.029
binders on board. Okay. Like I think it might have zeolite, bucoidon, silica,
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01:38:58.149 --> 01:39:02.329
and then the senolytic has very high dose resveratrol in
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01:39:02.409 --> 01:39:06.550
it and fisetin. Okay. So those are, those are all
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on the MediCoreRx.com. So there's a, so I, so it's
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01:39:10.550 --> 01:39:15.109
those plus the rhizo plus a melatonin, liposomal melatonin because
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01:39:15.140 --> 01:39:18.479
of all, so that's, a core basic product that people,
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01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:22.359
I mean, package that people can do to start maybe,
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01:39:22.699 --> 01:39:24.600
you know, moving the needle and feeling better.
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Okay. Got it. Perfect.
1942
01:39:26.500 --> 01:39:30.640
And that's what you're doing. You're basically mobilizing spike, binding spike,
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01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:34.939
blocking any healthy cells in the area of receptors, right?
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01:39:35.180 --> 01:39:37.659
So that the spike then doesn't, if it's not attached
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01:39:37.680 --> 01:39:39.319
to a binder and it's free floating, it doesn't. And
1946
01:39:39.340 --> 01:39:41.319
then you're moving it out of your body. You're peeing
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01:39:41.359 --> 01:39:41.579
it out.
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01:39:41.699 --> 01:39:42.840
Got it. Okay.
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01:39:43.020 --> 01:39:43.579
Awesome. That's it.
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I got a ton of notes here.
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01:39:45.180 --> 01:39:47.220
I feel like we digress so much, but we can
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01:39:47.260 --> 01:39:50.199
talk more about it in detail. But that's the crux
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01:39:50.260 --> 01:39:53.810
of it. But, you know, the sicker patients, EBU, you know,
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01:39:53.850 --> 01:39:55.649
we just were coming out with a study and we
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01:39:55.670 --> 01:39:57.050
could talk more about that when I see you again.
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That we proved that the EBU filters out the specific
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01:40:00.890 --> 01:40:04.069
EBU that we use. filters out the spike protein and
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01:40:04.109 --> 01:40:07.069
the toxin-like peptides. And when you do it the right
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01:40:07.109 --> 01:40:09.770
way and dose them with the senolytics and the binders
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01:40:09.890 --> 01:40:12.189
prior to the EBU, you can mobilize a lot of
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01:40:12.210 --> 01:40:14.710
the spike out of the cells and then filter it out.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, there's so many things to talk about. I'm
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01:40:18.170 --> 01:40:20.449
so sorry that we really digressed a lot.
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01:40:20.550 --> 01:40:24.489
No, that's good. Yes. Excellent. I've got stacks of notes
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01:40:24.520 --> 01:40:25.989
here to go through. I'm going to talk to you
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about later. For sure. Well, I really appreciate the insight
1968
01:40:30.340 --> 01:40:34.479
because it's really, really priceless insight. And this is things
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01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:37.560
you just don't hear. So it is really, really appreciated
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01:40:37.619 --> 01:40:40.340
your time and your effort, especially in all of this.
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So thank you.
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Thanks, Dylan, for having me. I really loved being with you.
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It was super fun. Absolutely.
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Well, we'll talk about part two and setting that up
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and we'll work on some other things together, I'm sure.
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01:40:53.350 --> 01:40:54.689
I'm sure, yeah.
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Tell everybody, I'll cite this in the notes, but what
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01:40:58.140 --> 01:41:00.399
are the best places to follow your work or find
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01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:02.010
you or contact you?
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So my Instagram is at Dr. like period or dot
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Robin Rose, R-O-B-I-N-R-O-S-E. My Facebook is the same without the
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dot at Dr. Robin Rose. I think my Twitter is
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01:41:15.899 --> 01:41:18.979
the same too, like as the Instagram. And then our
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01:41:19.079 --> 01:41:25.810
website is Terrain Health, like T-E-R-A-I-N Health. And then we
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01:41:25.909 --> 01:41:29.920
did create this MediCore RX site for these different products
1986
01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:34.579
to live on. And the zinc CDs, the other products
1987
01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:36.140
are there too that we talked about too. So they
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01:41:36.199 --> 01:41:39.300
all live there so that people can access them and
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get them if they want to start trying it.
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Excellent. Awesome. All right. Well, thank you again so much
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for your time. I'll note everything here to where to
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01:41:48.260 --> 01:41:51.779
find and follow you and just Greatly appreciate having you here.
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So stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Gemelli
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and Dr. Robin Rose signing off.
