2016 Draft Day LIVE - Rounds 4 Through 7

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Speaker 1: This is continuing coverage of the twenty sixteen and FL Draft on Della's Cowboys dot Com. Welcome you back to the twenty sixteen NFL Draft. Bryan broad Is, David Hellman, Dame Brugler, Kent Garrison helping you out today. Today, as I always like to say, is for the scouts, we've got fourth round action about to start here that will be with Cleveland Browns at pick ninety nine, will go through to pick two fifty three, which will be the final pick for the Denver Broncos. Before we went to break, I wanted you guys to handicap the quarterbacks. I asked a question about could we see a quarterback here at one oh one? Is there another player? But let's another player that potentially they could grab. But let's handicap the available quarterbacks. And we talk about Connor Cook, Dak Prescott, uh Driscoll, Alan Hogan, Cardell. Yeah, let's let's handicap, you know. And I know what you're gonna say, as far as as far as Jones, Jones that I let it go, you like that would go? I let it go. I know he's not coming here. He should yeah he should, Yeah, he should have been picked before this, honestly, but there's three guys. The guy, the USC guy went uh yeah, let's let's have a rule no, no bringing up Cody Kessler. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Would you rather have him or Cardell? All right, give me Cardell, give me a guys. Okay, But but the guys have Prescott Allen all guys with the Calgary guys. They've been linked to the guys that have visited here and did and worked with the coaches and all that good type of stuff. Yeah. Uh, if you're hand, I mean, those are the three I've got my eye on. I guess technically it could be a smokescreen. Yeah, I mean, you know, who the hell knows. Maybe they like a guy that they haven't even talked to. Yeah, but those are the three I've got my eye on. And if they want one, if they if they want to back up quarterback. This seems like a oh it is the Commissionero. Things started, Yeah, get things started here. Let's h we got the Commissioner at the podium experience in Chicago. Want to thank you the fans, of course, the people of Chicago, the city of Chicago, and the Great Bears, organization, and we have four outstanding Chicago Bears here today. To my left, Lance Briggs, James, Big Cat Williams. To my far right, Dan Hampton, Hall of Famer, and Hall of Famer Gail Sayers. I'm gonna ask Gail'll say a few thinks, yes, Sayers should have gotten a figure on me. Does Kansas let him and jacket on good afternoon. My name is Gail Sayers, and play a little football for the scrub Bears and get a lot of other things later in my career. I fought for a long long time to get into the Hall of Fame, and I'm in the Hall of Fame, and so I'm just here to be with you, and I'm glad to see so many people in the crowd, and hopefully that we have another good year next year and we will be back again to have another good year. Thank you very much. Okay, So today we're gonna have fans from around the world announcing picks for the teams. They'll be fans selecting former players picking. So uh, we hope you have a wonderful day. So Round four is now officially open. The Cleveland Browns are on the clock. Okay, thank you very much, Commissioner. Nice to see GAYL. Sayers. There can't Kennis Kansas letterman jacket on there. It did, It must be must be a sparse crowd there in Chicago. That seemed like he got the round of a plus he was expecting. Yeah, if you're gonna bring out GAYL. Sayers bringing you, there's a side of me that I wish that we were in Chicago doing this right now. It would be very fun and cold. It would be cold. Oh we we We've we've been cold. We've we've been to the combine cold, We've done those things. Doing my job would be a big pain in the butt. Yeah, Chicago, I got you, all right. But we talked about the let's go Cleveland's on the clock, dare We talked about quarterbacks so for the Cowboys and stuff like that. So we'll now focus since the drafts open for business. Here the Browns and factor on the clock that got back to back picks here at ninety nine. Hun, then we I've got the Cowboys. Jerry Jones. As I look over my shoulder, here is fielding some calls. Everybody when they're all smiling like that, that means somebody offered something that doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of sense. If you're the Cowboys, what direction are you going here? Well, you know it's uh. I still have got a I've got a defensive end on the board that I that I personally like with Ronald Blair, I do, I do like, I do like if you wouldn't have taken a running back Dixon here book or would have been a good this this could be you know, wide receivers. We've talked about wide receivers. They brought in the you know they they brought in Higgins Lawlor Cooper is a guy you like I've heard when I was walking through the halls, Lissa be the kid from TCU. I know Nick Eatman has always talks about give me the guy that's the vertical player here. Yeah, this could be. If we see a Derek Dooley come walking into this room initially, then maybe that's the direction. But I've got I've got Ronald Blair, the defensive end from app State on my board right now. See this is the Cowboys war room. There would be no arguments because that's exactly who I want to Yeah, and I mean, let's turn in the car. Let's go get the app stay defensive end. He's an instant contributor, Adam to the rotation and our football teams better. This is where I wonder about kind of our our own little vortex. You know, we we have ideas, We tend to agree with each other, We like each other. They didn't bring Ronald Blair in. I have not really heard a lot from Ronald Blair when I talk to them or listen to them. Right, that's not a name that I'm even having ideas on their radar. Okay, So I wonder if they're act. No, I don't, I don't. I don't discount Okay, as we look at the teams with the most fourth round picks, uh, the Cowboy excuse me, most picks in the fourth round in the common draft era. The Cowboys in nineteen ninety one have four. The Ravens are about to set up new record Ravens. Yeah, they'll keep them. Yeah, the Raven Ravens were doing a lot of moving around. Jerry Jones. If you're looking at war room cam, he is on the phone again. He is staring at the actual draft. Hugh Jackson's pumping his fist. Yeah. So they've evidently got a guy in Cleveland that they want. Uh, they are on the clock. Hopefully they have two minutes left to get just picked up. We all know. Now we're onto the mode where it's five minutes per pick. So as of when early in these rounds, especially when teams have a chance to sit on their board and uh and look at those names, maybe not a lot of trading going on at the at the top. Guys like to sit there and make these picks. So it looks like with the Browns, they've got a pick. Now, let's see maybe what the second pick they had, pick one hundred Jerry Jones again, still talking among talking with Will mccle You don't get the impression that anything came of that phone call, just on the conversations happening my experience sitting in that room with it when they are on the clock, when they're on the phone, and then it hangs up and it's laughing. Somebody offered something ridiculous that they would not consider to get out of that pick. So let's see if a business does pick up for them here the Browns. That looks like the pick is in for the Browns again. This is four ninety nine um for the Cowboys sake. Let's you know, hope that that they don't get uh the Browns got him yesterday. I'm gonna say the Browns are right there in front of him and got him on Immanuel Ogbah. Let's see if if what it happened you mentioned, I mean, I mean, maybe I'm going out on a limb. But I this is either going to be a defender or a quarterback if if Dallas hangs in here, that's my guest. Just take a quarterback potentially here or a defender. I mean, I can't be you could be absolutely right or they're you know, they mentioned center guard. That's obviously I defense or quarterback, that's my guess. I don't know, based on the way things have gone so far. Well and I also too, I have a Jeremy Cash on my board the safety from uh from Duke uh As as a potential guy, I think one of the one of the good tackling safeties in this drat. I mean, you know there's a lot of guys we talk about hitt and miss guys. Well, this guy's a secure player and he love for our guy. Jalen Mills, who is He was a Dallas Day visitor he's a local guy. Yeah, um, could be, could could absolutely be. Okay, the picks in for the Browns. Let's see how they operate today. Let's see if they do they said the commissioner said they're gonna do podium picks. At late in the draft. Yesterday we started getting just announcements of picks. This is where crawl bless the blessed the TV coverage guy. This is where it gets impossible for the Oh, this would be a lot of fun. This is where this is. I'm not talking about mayok so much on these guys, but just the people that have to keep up with the ticker and make all this work. I mean, it's just moving too fast for anybody to keep up with at this point. Yeah, well, let's see what the Browns in fact do. I always loved the fourth round of a draft. You know, well, you know, I said, I always call it what the criminal medical round and all that they're gonna get. These teams are gonna get some really good football players. I mean, I always always loved fourth round picks because you seem to have two or three of them, or you know, it's the guys who are pretty damn I'm good, but there's something wrong with him that's got him here. Yeah. Absolutely, in my cynical if I think of it as the BW web and naquasi us wants around, well, maybe maybe you are being a little cynical. Then jaded, you are negative, a little bit jaded. I was looking for my team niche chart here in the Browns day. Do you have any idea maybe at the Browns what they might do to start this day? They need everything. But here here's a committe ll'snown gonna be players, gonna announce pick our next pick. Here we the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft. The Cleveland Browns welcome contest winner Patrick Star Joe thank you with the ninth and ninth. With the nine and ninth pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Joe Schobert, go linebackers content. It's a it's a very good pick. Yeah, he's They're going pass rush, pass rush, pass rush in Cleveland. Yeah, they went with Ogba, then they added uh Nassim from Penn State and going back to the Big ten here with Schoubert. Yeah, he's a Shae McClellan clone. H I'm a big fan of the second round pick. Believer, first round, first round, putting the Bears Bears right, Yeah, absolutely, this guy just knows how to get to the quarterback. He's you know, the measurables are are average, are okay? You know? The size okay, he doesn't really stand out in that respect, but he has a nose for the football. Whether he's stunting, whether he's just rushing off the edge, he finds the football and he makes plays. So I think that's a very good pick for the Browns. I like that guy. I love Wisconsin football players because like he is, he's a tough son of a gun. Yeah he does. He gets to the football. Now they're at Wisconsin because they're not like, they're not highly touted guys. Wisconsin doesn't get the five star players, and you know they got to rely on stuff other than athleticism to get it done. But hey, they keep pumping out good players. So Joe Schobert, the linebacker for the for the for Wisconsin, uh is the pick um. You know we've seen, we've seen what looks like to me. Let's see. Oh wait, Oakland's now on the clock, so you gotta go at one hundred Okay, wait, wait, wait, in our mock draft, we were close. We call it Oakland maybe going up to one oh one. What they are going to one hundred? Well, here we go with Oakland now and the pick is in. That's for the Raiders. That's a decent jump too. Let me see a right, let me see all right? How about this, let's say linebacker and tior defensive linement, running back? Could they just could this be just a best available players situation? Here? Yeah, there's someone if you're going up, there's somebody light. Now we've talked about these quarterbacks. We've talked could one. Could they be looking for a backup for car out there? Do they? I mean they need one? They got that guy, the guy that we played here in twenty thirteen. What's his name? Can't even remember right now. He was there starting, he was there starting mclock mc mclo. Okay, here it is the one ERD pick one fourteen and one fifty four. Now go from the uh from the Raiders. Let's see that this is gonna be interesting. I think this. You don't make this. I mean there's somebody on this board. Obviously. Did they really really like about talk about running back? Yeah? Uh we went in our mock that we did in the draft show, I think we had the pick here and yeah, here we go. I can't get the host to announce our next pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, Raiders would like to welcome Raiders, a legend and two times Super Bowl champion Jim Podcast. Thank you. And with the one hundredth pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select Connor Cook quarter How about that right there? So forgive me, Brian. Yeah, we mocked, we mocked. It seemed like to me this was gonna be a pick. Okay, this means Dallas is on the clock right now. So here we go and we'll see what what in fact happens. Connor Cook. We talked about him as a potential pick uh for the Dallas Cowboys. But the Raiders understand that the Cowboys worked him out, visit with them, all kinds of things. Maybe they go out and grab the quarterback, the best quarterback they feel like the on the board right there. You know what's ironic is that's two days in a row that the team going just before the Cowboys has saved me from a pick that I don't like. And for about ten minutes last night, I was pretty pumped that the Cowboys had dodged this Oakba bullet because I don't really like him very much. Yeah, and obviously then they threw me a real curveball by drafting Jalen Smith. So here I am thinking, Okay, good, the Cowboys aren't gonna draft Connor Cook. But what are they gonna do? Okay, last night I didn't love their backup plan. Okay, Jerry Jones is on the phone in the war room right now. The Cowboys they could go for. You know, we've talked about defensive ends. We've talked about potentially quarterbacks. We've talked about you know, a lot of different positions. So looking best available. I mean we're talking defensive line. Yeah, Billings, something's going on there, Yeah, Hassan Ridgeway, Ronald Blair, Um, you know they made the pick, well, they made the pick the pick up one receivers and there Richard Higgins, Yeah, I mean he was a Dallas day guy. I think if we go down through the list of guys with those defensive we talked about Blaird Tapper, maybe it got you know, I mean, those guys mean, we'll see what tooked with Tapper at the Senior Bowl. They yeah, they did, you know, And I think the scheme when we talk about him, I think scheme hurts him a little bit more. I mean he's a guy. But you do, his combine was outstand You see the the athletic ability with there it is Les Charles Tapper's in. So there you go Charles Tapper, the defensive end from Oklahoma. And uh so there it goes. Uh, Cowboys at one on one get Charles Tapper. I would I would have preferred Ronald Blair here, but I think this is a good spot for Tapper. Uh. You know, I I gave him a late three or early four. That's right where this range is. Uh. And you you talked about the scheme fit Brian and and he's six two and a half two hundred and seventy pounds. But the way they used him at Oklahoma, Uh, it just it was not It didn't do him any favors. Yeah. Um, and but he was still able to get ten tackles for losses past year, seven sacks. You mentioned his combine ran a four or five, Yeah, four or five. His ten yards split was fantastic. A one five nine. Uh, this guy thirty four in vert. So I think he's a terrific pick here. Yeah and uh, but again I had Blair as the guy myself. But uh, and Tapper's a guy that probably they took on my board, probably took a round early. And here's the thing with Tapper. You go back to his sophomore year, watch him against Alabama in the bowl game. I mean he aj McCarron is still having nightmares from Charles Tapper, uh, putting pressure on Alabama in that pocket. So I think if you watch that sophomore tape, you get excited. Then you watched him the last two years and how he was misused and you're a little disappointed, But he was misused, and so I think that's a big part of his evaluation. But I think, you know, you love the promise with his player and he didn't start playing football until his junior year in high school. Yeah, so you know, he's still got a lot of upside, a lot he's going to get better. I really like what Tapper could be two three years from now. Yeah. That's uh, my scouting report is not as glowing as as your scouting report is dying and I I just thought I'd need to see him react a little bit quicker. And and you know, maybe that has to do with the scheme. Uh. You know, I saw some things though with uh uh. He just doesn't do enough off the edge. For me. I saw some stiffness. I saw some tentative play and again lights running. Yeah, it might be it might be the and and right there you saw him retrace his steps. That was something that I I saw. I thought he stayed square, but I thought he needed to do a little bit better job of freeing himself. And again, I'm gonna say that the Oklahoma scheme, when you watched him play, it doesn't always uh make these guys shine. And maybe the fact that you got a guy with the athletic ability of Charles Tapper, that maybe that you can do something with that. So San Diego is now on the clock. Their pick is in. You guys write the scouting reports, you know far more than me. But you mix that athleticism with his size. That's what I like them. I like the fact that he should be ready to go. This isn't a Randy Gregory type of guy who needs to eat a couple of bags of water Burger before he shows up the practice. Yeah, he's ready to play, or he should be at least. Yeah, and uh yeah, I mean maybe maybe it's it's obviously you guys love Ronald Blair. But I can get on board with that. Yeah, I can get on board with that pick. Well, that's good and all the hey, all of a sudden, you've used two pretty premium picks to work on that pass pass right, Okay, the Chargers picks. Now in let's see who in fact that she's not a fan. That's Joey Bosa. Oh all right. With the hundred second pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the San Diego Chargers select Joshua Perry, linebacker. Joey Bosa loves that. Yeah, the teammate hit Joshua Perry, the linebacker number eleven for the Buckeyes. Yeah, so yeah, the Buckeyes just right, you're right, Dane now would be the eleventh Buckeyes selected, uh in this draft. A little bit about Joshua Perry in terms of human beings. He's a first round pick, maybe the number one overall pick, and just a great person, very smart. Urban Meyer always says that he's a guy that could run for political office. I mean he's he could be the president of the United States. That's the type of person he is u in terms of intelligence and just the way he interacts with everyone around him. But he looks like a defensive end out there. But he has some movement skills like a safety. I mean his straight line speed. He's a four sixth athlete. I think he's a player that can blitz, he can cover, you can do a lot of things with him. So to me, I thought he's a third round player, a guy that can start in multiple schemes. He played weak side, strong side middle at Ohio State, so he has versatility at all three linebacker spots. Okay, so that now puts they'll put Jacksonville will be on the clock. It looks like that Jackson de Ville, the best Masks mascot in the NFL was is trying to repel with the Jacks. Selection to remember when that idiot repelled down Wimbley Stadium in London. Yeah, that was pretty fun. That was prefair. Okay, so we'll see that Jacksonville Jaguars have Kevin Hardy, former All Pro linebacker for the Jacksonville Jaguars, along with future All Pro linebacker Miles Jacky PG Sweet Stakes you may the pick winner Michael Garcia with one hundred and third pick of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguar Select day defensive tackle Sheldon Day, defensive tackle Notre Dame. Kind of a kind of a favorite of Rod Marinelli's at the Senior Bowl. I'll never I love that so much. Beat Like he's he's a short guy. We've talked about it before, like he's definitely not the most Actually, I remember Charles Tapper was not the biggest name at the Senior Bowl, but he just looked like the biggest, baddest guy there when you look at him eye test wise, right, Sheldon Day was maybe the least impressive guy there on the eye test. And Rod Marinelli absolutely loved that guy. He worked him at both spots. He was all over him. He was right up in his grill during every drill. Yep, he was very enthusiastic about We talked about Cody White here maybe in Zach Martin light, uh that Sheldon Day is Aaron Donald light. I mean he's he's that undersized undertackle, a guy that wins with quickness and penetration. The biggest worry with me with Shelton Day was he hasn't made it through a whole season without being hurt. And then just scheme fit. He's not going to be a fit for every team. But it was interesting at the Senior Bowl lining him up outside, yeah, and putting him in a few different spots, and so Rod Marinelli had a lot of fun with him. Yeah, Rod Marinelli a lot of credit for that because they were showing some highlights of the Senior Bowl and he was taking Jason Spriggs to task a little bit, uh who was taken earlier by the Green Bay Packers in the third round of this draft. So Baltimore is now on the clock. It looks like their pick is gonna be in at one oh one Baltimore, one of the Baltimore has always been the team that's been the nemesis of the Cowboys. Looks like a little bit maybe the Cleveland Browns had become the nemesis of you know, with the trades and so if in fact they did, like Connor Cook, if they were going to go that route, you know, getting you know, the Raiders able to trade up ahead of them and make that pick. Any thoughts about Hey, we've with maybe what the Browns are you thinking about? There's a lot of cornerbacks on this board that we you know, we've looked. I'm just just going off the board, just looking. We've talked about receivers. Uh okay, well here we go, there we go picks in, So they goes Tavon Young, Temple, Temple cornerback. I was here, I was look focusing on my board. Tavon Young the quarterback, cornerback, excuse me, out of Temple is the pick? Uh Dane. Some thoughts on Tavon Young undersized five nine hundred and eighty three pounds, but I think really competitive player, really feisty. Uh. He is able to make up for some of his size limitations because he plays with sound technique, um and instincts. He finds the ball quickly and just a very fearless player. Like he doesn't play like he's undersized. He he plays like he's six one, two hundred pounds. And so whether he plays in the sea, probably have to play in a slot. That's probably where Tavon Young is going to make his money in the NFL. But I think he can be an isn't contributor on special teams and then work for starting Nickel roll. Yeah, I think this guy is a really nice job of rallying to the football. I think he needs to turn and locate the ball a little bit better down the field. It might have something to do with his height at five to nine, as you said, but plays with some balance, stays in position, can play out of the slot. I think that's really the most important thing that you said right there. So Tavon Young goes to the Baltimore Ravens with pick four one oh four. That will now put this is gonna be it. I believe, if I'm correct, the pick is San Francisco's. But I believe this pick for some reason now is in Kansas City's hands, maybe from a previous trade that mark Kansas City will go back to back. It looks like here on the clock at pick one oh five and pick one oh six, So as time looks like it's a winding down for this pick, and we'll see if in fact it is. Then um talk about a little bit what maybe we could see from San Francisco. We we you know, that's uh, Chip Kelly. They've taken a lot of what PAC twelve players still on the board, we got Casey here right. Oh, I'm sorry, that's right, That was right right? Well? And the Chiefs, yeah, they go back to back, gave one six actually right about that. Um, you know, looking at you know, they traded out of the first round completely. Then they got some defensive line help with Chris Jones in the second round. Uh, and then in the third round who think go on the third round? Third round selection from the Chiefs and with Cavari Russell the Notre Dame quarter. So maybe go back to offense. Now we'll see what they do here. Back to back. But do you think the Cowboys were targeting Connor Cook at one on one and that Oakland kind of stuck in there? I mean, do you think that was a pick? I had a feeling that they liked Connor Cook, I really did. Yeah, maybe even more than Hackenberg and maybe you know, I mean, who know, I mean, I was I could said. I was told a lot of different things, and some of them have actually been true and some of them haven't even been close. So you know, just need to kind of think about that. It's impossible that Oakland was on the phone with them when Jerry was talking before the round started. Is that I mean every I mean, yeah, it makes if if he was gonna get his fifth round pickback. I don't know why he didn't do it. It makes sense to me that they would want a quarterback. But yeah, you sit here with you know, I mean, you got another pick in the fourth and you've got probably through while you can. You lost Cook, but you've still probably got three guys that you like enough to draft, right, So maybe they weren't sweating it. Maybe maybe Chapper was their guy all along. Maybe there's a good chance there was there was a chance that he was a guy. Maybe maybe they don't. Maybe they see, okay, the picks in for the Chiefs maybe, but maybe they see maybe like one of these other quarterbacks, maybe they like their odds that Dak Prescott or Brandon Allen is sitting there at one thirty five exactly. Let's go out to uh, let's go out to Kansas City and see what we got working for their pick. Kansas City picks in. That is a really fancy plane that they just showed on. Okay, I guess we're not gonna get there coverage. Maybe they didn't have the audio was not not rolling right there. Let's see if they announced the pick. Yeah, they were at an air Force base with some impressive equipment there. Maybe they had some some audio problems. Again, Kansas City is back to back at picks uh one oh five and one oh six. Uh. Talk a little bit about what you know with Kansas City. Seems like a team it's always Chase an offensive lineman they are. And they made a few splashes signing Mitchell Schwartz uh and free agency. He's going to be that right tackle. They also lost a few guys with Donald Stevenson. He left uh Ben Grubbs his careers winding down, so they let him go. So offensive line would make a lot of sense here. And let's look on the draft board. Let's see who has available. Well, you talk about Westerman, you know Westerman, Joe Dahl, uh, Darryl Greene, Yeah, Gerald Hawkins. You know that you feel like that they were fact they'd go inside or would him maybe take a guy that Eric Fisher's in the final year of his deal. Yeah, so maybe think mbie go offensive tackle tackle. We talked about Kyle Murphy here me Murphy from Stanford. I think that in insure was another guy that we may be brought up Cincinnati since from Cincinnati. So let's say, okay, it looks like we're back with Kansas City. Let's see if we got him up on the UH, if we got availability around the nation and around the world. Welcome to Whiteman Air Force Base. We are proud of the women and men that serve in the Chief's kingdom in here and this incredible piece of machinery, the B two bomber, I'll say, which makes sure that we defend our country and what is good around this world. And we have got the people here not only with the B two, but this entire base that we'll talk about throughout the afternoon. But for the Chiefs pick well, I want to introduce to you now from the five O ninth Bomb Wing, Communication Squadron, Technical Sergeant Heath Curliss. I'm Technical Sergeant Heath Curless from the five o ninth Bomb Wing. With the one hundred and fifth pick of the twenty sixteen NFL draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select Parker Edinger Guard Cincinnati. There you go. We always say they're chasing, the Chiefs are always chasing offensive linemen, and it looks like that they drafted another one right there in Parking at headinger Cincinnati left tackle, and he played all over that offensive line at Cincinnati. To me, he's a guard. I don't see him staying outside at tackle. But this is higher than I had him. I had him more as a late run I think I had a seventh round grade on him. Yeah, but six six or in ten pounds is a player who he does his best work in smaller spaces, and so that's why I think he has to play guard in the NFL. For his best spot is when you watch his film, you know he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. There's not a lot of negative tape out there for him. But I just saw average traits and so it'll be interesting interesting to see how they use him. Yeah, there's UH and it looks like the pick is also in at UH one oh six. We'll see that as Yeah. With with Parker, I saw some stiffness in this guy and the way I like the way he works with his hands inside. He could sustain for two or three steps and then after that then he totally falls apart. So I think you could jerk him off balance. I don't think he just very well on the second level. I'm with you, Dane. I really had some trouble with this guy because I didn't think he had very good redirect and maybe that's why he had to play inside. So I really enjoy that. About day three of the draft, I remind him thinking of Eric Murray. Yeah, Eric Murray, you're thinking about Eric Murray. Eric Murray is now the Kansasy chief and we saw Eric Murray, Dave, do you remember him from the Senior Bowl. We absolutely did. Tenacious guy he was. He was always cut in line to getting getting Braxton Miller's face. If I remember, this fits what the Chiefs want at corner. They want press guys that will come up and look to make receivers uncomfortable. And that's what Eric Murray does best. You know, five eleven, two hundred pounds. Uh, he's a four or five athlete. Not not the most twitched up guy, but uh, you know, he's physical. He'll he'll get up in the face of receivers and it looks at get in their head and looked the knock him off balance. That's really what he does best. So I think if he can figure out a way to harness that aggressive nature, uh, there's no question he can play at this level and whether can he play in the slot. I think he's gonna be a special team to start with, and then you hope maybe by year two he's fighting for a starting job and that Eric Murray, Yeah my self, I did see a guy that could play out of the slot. I thought that he could adjust to the football. We saw a little bit that the Senior Bowl. But I thought he was a poor technique player, Like you said, very handsy, very much grabby handsy, that type of guy, physical law at the line of scrimmage. I don't think he always played with very good lateral agility for somebody that was playing out of a slot. And you know, I think that he'll do a good job with his the way he is matching up with size. I do like that, But I what did you grade him ask? I had him as a cornerback. No, but like round round I had him in the fifth round. That's where I had him as well. I did. I just I love the variables at this point in the draft because one man's seventh round pick, there's no doubt about it. It It reminds me of that was gonna say a minute ago. It reminds me of Anthony Hitchins. I remember that I threw a lot of people for a loop, sure lower grades from other people. Cowboys liked him enough to take him in I think one thirty five, one thirty something. I had Eric Murray in the late third, early fourth. I think this is right where I liked this pick for him and turns of value where they're getting him. And Eric Murray was a two star guy. Okay, he kind of you know, brought himself up and learned and really developed his own skill set. So Eric Murray's a fighter. He's a guy that I'm not. You want to bet against the player like this? Okay, it looks like the Baltimore Ravens are on the clock at one oh seven. Here uh, we have the audio from Charles Tapper from earlier this morning. Hey, Charles Jerry Jones with cowboys, are you doing? You're not gonna have to come too far south to leave that in armon? Are you no, sir? And we're glad to have you. We're drafting you. I'm definitely glad to be a cowboy. All right, buddy, Well, you got what I'm excited about is that you're gonna get some great coaching. You got you great defensive coordinator, a great head coach here. So we're excited for you, sir. You've had a great career and no reason for you not to extend it and get better when you get up here. We're proud of you, sir, Thank you so much. Thanks for the opportunity you bet. Here's our head coach, Jason Garrett. Charles, Yes, sir, congratulations, Thank you so much. Poe Hey, We're really excited to have you. I'm definitely, I definitely can't wait. Bick cowboy, he can't wait to get down and start this journey. Good, you're ready to get to work, Yes, sir, I'm definitely gonna be working. I promise you that. Good. Can't tell you, Pump. We already have you on our football team. I'm extreming you something to you on the football team. So great. Congratulations again, thank you, sir, Thank you so much. All Right, Charles seeing a few days, buddy, all right, there you go. You know what I love and I mean, Dallas fort Worth is here real quick. Let's go to Baltimore's pick if we can. Baltimore to announce the next pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft to Baltimore Ravens would like to off command former Ravens fullback Bontae Leach beast Love with the one end of the seventh pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft to Baltimore Ravens to let Chris Moore wide receiver assist Cinnati. All right, Chris Dave, finish your thought. I just love and I mean Dallas. This is a huge city that pumps out tons of football players. The Cowboys are also the most visible and largest fan base in football, so it's not surprising, but it seems like every single year they draft a guy who's clearly, you know, his family's got ties to the Cowboys. Maybe he grew up a Cowboy fan. Charles Tapper obviously played two and a half hours up the road in Norman. They've drafted a lot of Baylor guys, a lot of Dallas guys before. It's just it's fun to me that every year, you know, it's it's everybody's dream to play in the NFL. But these guys, specifically, a lot of them probably grew up rooting for the Cowboys, and that's that's cool. A lot of Cowboys fans are smart enough that they know this. But you look at the measurables. And there's a trend here, right. The Cowboys like to pick these guys that test really well. Charles Tapper's one of them. Yeah, let's real quick, dame the Buccaneers. Now greatness coming ahead of them. Well, now let's look who they drafted. Well, with the hundred eighty pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, they take a quarterback from out of sin All University. And next time, Brady, Oh, I'm only kidding, only kidding, the Bucks they take with one hundred eighth pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL drap Ryan Smith, defensive back from North Carolina Central. There you go, Okay, my man, Dicky V just scared the crap out of me. Yeah, because they got Jamis Winston. Oh yeah, Like what are they doing? Why are they taking a quarterback off the board. I don't need I don't need that to happen. I need I need my guy to be there real quick. Let's cover up at Chris Chris Moore, Dan, and then we'll hit and then we'll hit this pick with Ryan Smith. Chris Moore a deep threat. I mean he averaged over twenty one yards per catch the last two years each of the last two years. This guy, Uh, he's a deep threat and so he's gonna make plays. Uh, That's that's what he does best. He doesn't have, you know, true game breaking speed, right, but he just has a great understanding of vertical routes and how to track the football deep. Yeah, I think that's his best qual I think you're exactly right. I saw a lot of separation with the way he played going up the field. He went up with the ball a Gainst Houston high pointed it nicely. Best routes are just when he can go vertically. So Chris Moore, Cincinnati, he is. He is with the Baltimore Ravens now And now I'll talk about Tampa. Another cornerback, one of your favorite. Ryan Smith one of my favorite players in this draft, and I think at this point as a steel I game a third round grade. They get him in the early fourth so a great pick for the Bucks. This is a player who he was a basketball player in high school, played football as a senior when under recruited. It was a safety starting off at North Carolina Central. At the FCS level, they move him the corner as a junior in the past two years. You see him getting better and better. You see you see the fluid lower body that you want. You see ball skills, You see a guy that can find the football. He was terrific against the Duke. You know he comes from the FCS level, so you know, beat up on some bad competition, but against Duke, he was fantastic. I love this pick for the Bucks. Yeah. Well, and the Giants are now on the clock. It looks like their pick is in. Uh. I totally agree with you about Ryan Smith. I had him on in that mix we talked about with Howard and Fuller, Ryan Smith, Seymour Redman, I mean you know Redman and Fuller ago end of the day yesterday. Uh, and then now then Ryan Smith, who I felt like could have gone yesterday as to be a part of this. Okay, that makes the Uh. The New York Football Giants at a pick one oh nine are on the clock. Um. The Giants, uh, you know, talked about they did some nice things, uh free agency defensively, we we you know, we we need to think about them. Uh. You know, where could they go? The guys on the board, Uh, linebacker maybe another spot for them. They always seem like that there that's a position where they've had some struggles. Uh, it's a if you look at it as one of their UH six needs that we had. Uh linebacker could could very well be as I always think that they're always gonna get defensive players for summer, even though I mean Kenshall Brothers is still out there. How about the have a Goodson? I mean there were some three three down, three round three linebackers for me, Martinis, Goodson Brothers. If they're gonna go linebacker there Goodson, there we go. Any how that happened? No, but you know that's what I'm saying. I the two the last two picks that have been made, Smith and Goodson for me, we're third round players. And here we are sitting in the fourth round. And you gotta be if you're a fan, you gotta be saying, at least on my board, hey, nice job Giants, Nice job Buccaneers getting guys that are third round players on my board in the fourth round, right, and b J. Goodson kind of underrated? You know. We talk about that Clemson defense, uh, and we talk about Shack Loss, and we talk about Kevin Dodd, we talk about McKenzie, Alexander some of those safeties B J. Goodson quietly, it was just a playmaker all year for that Clemson defense in the middle. Uh, you know, not the best in coverage in terms of his athleticism, but downhill, he might be the most instinctive linebacker. He's in He's in the group if you're talking most instinctive linebackers in this class, he's in that conversation. So uh him and uh, you know Kenshall brothers a similar type of mold. I'd like this pick for the Giants. Yeah, the Giants again, we h it always seemed as one of their six needs that we had. Yeah. I'm just kind of looking through and I always feel like that the Giants are banged up at linebacker. Yeah, good are they got They've had retired? I mean they yeah, yeah, they do. They always seem to have. Yeah. Okay, well, so we've we've got to Charles Tapper, UH, defensive in from the University of Oklahoma, Dallas Cowboys pick here in the in the fourth round. Charles Uh. From the guys here at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Welcome aboard. It has to be very exciting morning for you right now. It's a very exciting moment. My family is in the house going while I had to step out here. Well it's good. Yeah, we were. We were listening to the audio in the in the call with Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett and all that. And you don't have to go very far to play your football. Is the fact that that your family, you talk about your family, they have to be really excited too about being able to come down and see you play on a weekly basis as well. Yeah, they definitely can. I mean, I'll get the harmony. Two I was away from my guards, and two I was away from coach Stopson. I see a lot of those coaches in my father's think. So if I need to call them anytime going on the same, he's going to very easy to do it. Hey, Charles, congratulations again. Man Um, just curious. I know you had a chance to participate in the Senior Bowl down in Mobile earlier this year. I know you weren't on the Cowboys team, but I was just wondering, Yeah, I guess what type of chance you had to get to know the coaching staff or any experience that you've had with them during this process. I got to meet him a little bit just walking around, getting to talk to him, and we got like fifteen minutes to talk to every coach and I got to pick the coach Ramernellian brain and see what he thinks I could do better and see how can I become a better player. And it's crazy that I'm going to really begin coach Obama and hopefully become one of the one of the greatest Sea Lions. That is Coach and me and coach me a while we worked out in Norman, and it was it was very fun with an individual drill and I just it was it was amazing to finally get to do that and do that with America team. When you, uh, I'm sorry, Dan, but when you I guess you know, coming into today, did you have an idea that Dallas was one of the teams looking at you? Or I guess how good of an idea did you have of where you might be going today? I had no idea at all. I mean, I was just sitting going through the process and I was really hoping that Dallas to me because it was so close to Norman. I mean, get to play with America's team. Who who want to pass that opunity and get to play with coach Garrett I mean one of the greatest coaches in the NFL, that I have the best D line coach nfs off. I'm definitely looking forward to getting down there and getting to play buck and getting tour it and Charles, you were asked to two gap, you asked to play inside, outside, do a little bit of everything on the OU defensive line. Where do you think you fit best at the NFL level? Five technique, getting up to skill, being destructive and especial chain, doing anything really to make the team win. They got I gotta kick down that three checking gets up. I'm gonna do that. Whatever whatever it takes to make the team win, I'm definitely gonna do it. Well. Charles, thank you so much for taking time for us this morning. Uh, congratulations again. We're looking forward to seeing you here when you get to Dallas your next man, and we will look forward to having some interactions with you when you get here. Okay, take care. Thank you. Charles Tapper, defenseven, Oklahoma, Dallas's selection at one oh one. Uh to start today here the twenty sixteen I am NFL Draft. I'm not the scout, I know. I mean you you guys have the reports. Yeah. Uh, athleticism it's a need position for the Cowboys. He's an experienced guy, played in the Senior Bowl. This is not his first rodeo. Like I said, it's not a guy and I mean Randy Gregory's a freakish talent, don't get me wrong, but this is a guy who should be ready to do things right away. The key for him is gonna be if he can rush the passer and play you get the edge. I mean, I'm not I'm not saying anything to nobody else. This pick will either. It will hinge on him being if he could develop as an edge rusher. That the questions I had going into this about him was his ability to finish as an edge rusher and that and if he can in fact do that outstanding pick. I think Ronald Blair's a little bit better at it. But you know what they they again, I'll say it for the falluson time today. They don't care what I think just watching him play. If he develops, he's got the applicability, the scheme might be killing him right now. I think that's the That's the key I think, and that's why you view him with upside because again, he didn't start playing football the sport and a football until his junior year in high school. He goes to OU. They kind of miscast him on that hybrid three four that the Sooners like to run. You know, he was often in that frog, stands both hands on the ground. So yeah, I think we're coming here. They're going to totally rebuild that technique and the mechanics the position, what he can do. I think the player that we see for the Cowboys the next few years will be different than the player we've seen it. So I hope, so I will. I mean, I'll take his athleticism, Sure, I'll take it. Sure you're putting him on the right or left side, I would put him on the left side. That's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah, And we've had a few picks here over the last ye could at the at one on one at the ramps, which I don't think we've had the ramp. We haven't seen the ramp. Yeah, the ramps. Because of the trade that they made to go to go all the way up in the draft, this is the first pick that they Habit's at four at one ten. They take the tight end from Western Kentucky, Tyler Higbee Well and they get their number one picks some Hell yeah, you know they go for a pass catching tight end. This guy is could end up being a steal here. You worry about he was just arrested last month. He has some knee issues. But in terms of on the field, what he brings to the field as a as a receiving tight end six six, two hundred fifty pounds terrific athlete. The body control, his ability to pluck the ball down the seam. Really, like with Tyler Higbee, can be at the next level. But again, the knee is is a question mark there. That's why he's available here. Plus the fact at the off field you have to do a little bit of work there and figure out what kind of person he is. And at four one eleven that would be the Detroit Lions and they take your favorite safety, Miles Killer Brew Dan Turner's favorite guy, Dan Turner. Good afternoon or good evening, Dan Turner, if you're listening overseas. We don't want to beat him up too much. But you know, funny story, what was it in December? I think I came in and you guys were watching tape and like, you know, Dan, pick a guy. Let let's just let's watch someone. I said, well, Miles kill a brew you know there's something there like him, and throw him on And it was not a flattering tape. Uh. You know, he just he flies around but no anticipation. Uh. You know, he's missing tackles, his angles are off. But when you look at just you know, the raw measurables at six two, two hundred and seventeen pounds, a four or five athlete. Uh, they think that, you know, they can mold him into something. At very worst, he's going to be a special team's ace. Okay, that's uh, okay. The pick is now in this pick after that, see after Detroit's pick. This is a pick that was in New Orleans. It's now with the Patriots. Uh, it's pick four one twelve. The Patriots just selected Malcolm Mitchell. I'm sorry, wide receiver from Georgia. He has got easy speed and he's an athlete. Um, there's so much to like about this player. But you worry about the durability. Um. You know, he's had a tough time staying healthy. Uh. He's got very lean limbs. Uh, so you kind of worry about him being able to hold up. And I think those durability issues are a bright red flag. But in terms of athleticism, the way his skills translates to the NFL really excited about what he can be if he stays healthy. Yeah, Malcolm Mitchell, Uh you know, let me see what I had my notes here from. Uh, you're right about the way he way he runs, you know, And I tell you this, I really for a tall guy. I saw him play the low ball well, I mean when coming across the middle and stuff. His ability to just the quickness and routes. Uh, he gets open like when he runs those like stutter goes, redirection routes that he has to do. I did seem body catch some balls, but uh, you know a little bit like you talk about the lean limb guy. Maybe some problems too with contested catches. So keep an eye on him. Malcolm Mitchell. Wide receiver Georgia New England Patriots. Patriots picked by virtue of the Saints trade up for Von Bell last night. Yeah. I think so. I didn't market on my sheet, but that's that seems leaves the direction. Okay, Uh, let's see who the Rams once again are back on the clock. Uh, this is a this is the pick that they got back to flip. Okay, now the Rams are gonna trade's gonna trade this pick, and let's see which way if it is it the pick? The pick was Tennessee's pick, so was it was? It was LA's pick trading out of this La. Yeah, someone's going had to Cleveland right here, Yeah, to get someone. Yeah, let's see who it is. Uh, I'm gonna see who's on the clock. It looks like to me the Bears are gonna be on the clock. So this pick is gonna go from it's gonna go, well, it's Los Angeles pick through Philadelphia, from Philadelphia through Tennessee. So the Bears are now on the clock at one thirteen. Let's see who in fact they they grab um, but we would go just go back a couple of picks though, the Miles Killer Brew one though, just okay on that one, right though, I mean if you talk about the safety, so though the guys like Powell and and you know, Cash and Kendrick and I mean Kendrick and those guys, I mean, yeah, I think again you're with Killer Brew. You are drafting measurables. A guy that is fast, he has range. Yeah, he flies around like a missile and he'll hit you. I mean he loads up behind his pads and he drives through his target. But the anticipate and the angles. Again, I think you're talking about a special teams guy who you hope he is going to push for a starting role. But I don't know. Again, with safeties, you need to be able to rely on them, and I'm not sure you can on this player. Yeah, okay, so this this pick now belongs to the Bears. It's gonna be pick one thirteen in the fourth round. Uh, Bears, do you think maybe thinking be a guest, maybe thinking some defense. I'm looking at my board. We've got all those linebackers. I mean we talk about Martinez and brothers. Uh Manicabage, Uh, the West Virginia kid, Uh Quickkowski, Quickkowski. I mean maybe I don't know. I'm looking. Bears to me, always another one, like like the Giants. Maybe they're looking, you know, looking at the linebacker spots here. Whatever the problem is with him? At what point does Andrew Billings just speaking I don't know, I mean and and talking to Nick Eatman, who's got a great dialogue with Baylor. He he says that the head coach Art Browles does has no understanding of any type of injury. Yeah, now, I brought this up yesterday. Yeah, I think it's a lot of teams had reservations about his instincts, about his ability to this much instinct fall from. I mean, we were thinking Pittsburgh at twenty five. They set the army to work him out. There. There's something else there that we're not figuring out. It's possible, it is possible. I thank god he didn't go to the draft because it would be a nightmare. Yeah, this would be for him though. I just I don't know. I think I think the Bears trying to help himself again. I'm looking some of my best names I'm talking about. We've talked about Blair, We've talked about Martinez, Brothers, is undersize, Manacavage. I mean, there's a lot of guys that you know that. I'm just looking at linebackers and be okay, well, here it is the Bears. They send the Bears get one thirteen and the Rams now have one seventeen. Uh that's the one that they get. So they gave him a six. They get up a six round to get this pick, and then they also gave up uh two O six, which is in the like day six, sixth round picks. So they moved up a couple of spots here someone they wanted to They wanted to jump ahead of Cleveland, Atlanta in Indianapolis here to get their guy. Yeah, so we will see, uh in fact, who that uh that pick is? Uh that the ore tracker has been doing a nice job of kind of firing them out at a pretty nice pace here. But they seem to have slowed down on the on the on the Bears pick. Uh, Cleveland has the pick at one fourteen. They are behind the Bears. They're just thinking about them. Any any any thoughts more, uh with with what's going on with Cleveland did load it up on pass rush on linebackers. So I think we need to go towards the offense. Now you're watching you're watching this war room cam right now because Jason Garrett's doing quarterback pantomimes. Yeah, Jerry, Yeah, they're gonna get down here at one thirty five. Yeah, I mean, what the hell else could they be talking about. Jason Garrett's dropping back and slinging Rocky Brandon Allen goes back. This is what he looks. I mean, yeah, yeah, I if the war room camp is very good. Wills over on the far right, you know that, I've ever seen something like that where you can tell what they're talking about so clearly. Because Jar's pick is in right now, can't let's pull it up. We can't real quick, you can't hear me. I didn't think you could hear me either. It's on, bro, let's go. We got you. I'm not gonna let you today, all right, So these microphones are going to television. Let's take this one as well. To speaking to all three okay, live from Selection Square in Graham Park. I'm Russid Davis, former Chicago Bear wide receiver, to announce our next pick. In the two thousand and sixteen NFL NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears were like too welcome twenty two years season ticket holder Kathy Shafer, Hey, Kathy, thank you. With the one hundred and thirteenth pick. In the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Nick Quitekowski. Here we go from this. Dude just seems like a Chicago Bear Quitkowski Koski. I don't like that the word quits in his name, but other not at all. It is true, although in his pronunciation it's k w I t. I thought, you know this, here's a guy I thought that uses his shoulder a little bit more than his hands and kind of goes low as a tackler. Didn't. I didn't think he played the low block particularly well. That means a little bit, maybe some problems with bending. Uh you know, he'll bounce off some blockers over lentless, finds the ball, He missed, some tackles on the edge, attacks the line. You know. I felt like though that he's kind of a tough guy, that's a limited athlete. I think that's that's what I'm not looking at a rangey player here. But I think when you look at his quick reaction skills, that's what I really like about the player. I think he has those quick reaction skills to uh click and close, and that's why he always shows up around the ball. That's why he's led the Mountaineers and tackles each of the last three years. So for for Chicago, definitely understand the thinking here, all right, Dave talking to me a little about what's going on in that war room some more than I mean, this is a heated discussion. This is as heat is as they've been probably since night number one. I mean, you got Will gesticulating over here, he's talking with his hands like an Italian person. You got Jason Garrett over here doing quarterback pantomimes. Um, I don't know. I'm obviously we can only guess as to what they're talking about, but it certainly seems as though quarterback is a topic of discussion here. Do you think maybe you think maybe they're talking about a trade? Well, I you know, they get talking about do they like one of them? They've got, They've got picked, They've got picked one thirty five. It's a long way to wait. If you think your quarterbacks sitting there though, well you gotta let's yeah, there's you gotta fall. And I mean we're talking in one fourteen, there's twenty one or picks. Yeah, maybe maybe they're maybe they're debating whether somebody's worth going up for. And actually that's um, that's something I wanted to bring up with you, Brian. I feel like I'm probably putting you on the spot here, and I apologize. Ron Leary he's still sitting there. Yeah, they're gonna trade him this Yeah, run Larry has has signed his tender. Maybe maybe to get back in the fifth round. Well, yeah, what do you think he's worth? Where? Where can where? He's a start? He's a starting NFL guard. It played on on an offensive line that, when he was a starter two years ago, led the National Football League in rushing. Again, I think the thing about him is does some people feel like though that he's at the end of that medical run. But he's one of those guys that wasn't draft. I don't think they like us talking about it because they're putting the towel over the camera. Yeah, yeah, sorry, Jason, but we already saw you doing your Brandon Allen impression or whatever that was. So anyway, puts up of somebody's hands. Yeah, right up in our face. Oh man, man, Douglas, Douglas, you laughing in there because you think they heard us talking about about this guy who knows h can't. What do you think does it matter? I mean, are we not allowed to talk? Yeah, we're absolutely gonna talk about it. But I guess it's there right to cover up the camera. Yeah, I'm just can we can we pull the video of I just I want like a gift or a clip of Jason doing just doing the quarterback drop back? Um? Wow, they are really struggling to put this towel up. Yeah, we could, we could still, that's okay, we'll still talk about Okay, the picks in for the Atlanta Falcon. I'm sorry the brown Yeah, I'm sorry. Lewis Ricardo Lewis a wide receiver from Auburn. Nice catch. They're damn sorry about that. I'm sorry. I know we're gonna get to the pick. But where do you think Ron Learry can help you? Go? Ron Leary, he could get your your five back? Can Ron by himself? You gotta put a sixth in there with him? Like? No, I mean, just if you Ron Learries, if you look at some give me fifth round guards, you know, give me guys with give me tell me, tell me of these fifth round guards. We say green, Alexander doll Uh Turner, I'm giving you. I'm giving you a veteran guy on the really on the cheap. Yeah, that you could. You could plug in and play as a start. Can he get you into the fourth Well, I mean I'm sure that when the FF the phone start ringing, then that's that would be the case. But uh, like say day talk about talk about Lewis a little bit. If you could though another PFA that the Browns just drafted on my board. This is interesting because he's a guy that some teams have worked out as a corner. Yeah, because he's six two, two hundred and fifteen pounds. But the question are his hands very shaky, unreliable pass catcher. So uh, maybe the Browns were drafting him as a convert for a corner. Maybe they're keeping him at receiver. I don't know, but I gave him a p F A grade as a wide receiver. But the intrigue about moving him possibly to the secondary. I could see why a team would want to draft him. So we'll have to wait and see on Lewis, Okay, Uh, that would be and then that puts the foul. That's what's going on here. We got the Falcons selection, kent't is, Oh wow, all right, okay, yeah we missed that with Okay, mock to the Cowboys. Okay, DeVante Campbell linebacker ure excuse me, Devondre Campbell, linebacker from Minnesota goes to the Atlanta Falcons. Uh with that pick there at one fifteen, Dane and he thought, on mister Campbell, Uh, interesting backstory, Uh, you know, kind of very you went under recruited, uh with the jew he was ready to kind of not play football, and then in the JUCO Game of Chance. After a few years there went to Minnesota. He's he's built well for the position. I mean, if you walked into this room, you just kind of be in awe. Uh just uh you know, it's physically sculpted that that type of specimen. And he's an athlete. My biggest question is the instincts. I don't see him. I don't see any instincts. Yeah, and so you know he looks like a defensive end. He moves really well. But again I don't see the ball awareness. Um. And so that that's why I questioned this pick. Okay, that that would mean now the Indianapolis Colts are on the clock. They the pick is in. Let's see if we get it across the scroll of the bottom here or they gonna make some type of announcement. Uh as you look at the players. Well, again, we talked about uh Blairs available. We haven't heard Ridgeway's name call. That's another one. We talked about linebackers, wide receivers, westrom in the guard. I mean, man, i I'm just I think they could go a lot of different ways. Let's see in fact, any thoughts here on what they might do anybody with the Colts. It's an outstanding value here. I thought this was a second round player. Yeah, myself too. The biggest question was conditioning. Um there's some issues about you know he and he stay on the field. Um, you know, you can't help your club in the tube. And that's kind of the mindset with Ridgeway because when he's on the field, you see power, you see quickness, you see the ability to reset on the move, quickly find the ball and react. Uh. He can make plays, uh, you know, within his funnel. So I to me, Ridgeway, I thought it was a second round talent. But again there were some questions about just can he stay on the field with injuries and being able to stay conditioned and so, Hassan Ridgeway, I agree with everything you say. I saw the guy play left defensive end. You know it gets TCU. So he's got some position flexibility as well. I totally agree with you when he when he gets a position he could finish. That's one of those things I really really like about him. And he uses some technique as a pass rusher. So Hassan Ridgeway defensive tackle. Texas goes to the Indieapolis Colts. The LA Rams are on the clock. Here will their pick is in? Uh, it's pick one seventeen. This one went from Buffalo to Chicago to LA. They could you know, we've we've got I look at these names. Uh, we've got a bunch of receivers. We got a guard on the board. We got a safety on the board, one of your favorite players. I mean there's like Higgins, Lawler, Cooper, listen, be all those types of guys, Robins. I mean, they've got some receiver. If they want to get this quarterback some help, I would like, I mean Cooper Higgins. But you they took the tight end Higbee the first time around. Do you try and get him some You know, there's been some questions about the Rams when you watch the play with even with Tavon Austin a little bit about about that. Maybe this is too simplistic, but go get his college teammate, Yeah, law law point Lawler, Yeah, Lawler would be my guy is who they would get? Uh? Do you I mean, do you have any favorite receivers that you really learn? Cooper, Richard Higgins, both of these guys got Barrel Cooper way up there. Yeah, I think he was your Farrell Cooper comparison. You got who he is. I think that's he could not you know, in terms of that's he's going to instantly be that type of player, right, But in terms of role and what can mean for an offense, I think he can grow into that type of role. Yeah. With Farrell Coop. Oh, here we go with the pick sent for the Rams. Let's get it here, Kent Garrison. It's Hollywood with one hundred and seventeenth pick of the two thousand and sixteam NFL Draft. Marilyn, you are gorgeous. The Los Angeles Rams select Pararell Cooper, receiver South Carolina. Nice shot Dane Burglar. So I felt like he's the second round player on my board. Yeah, yeah, Farrell Cooper. The I had him in the third myself, and so he is a la ram uh Just okay, Dan, go ahead and gush a little bit more about Farrell Cooper. Well, I think he's not the fastest, he's not the biggest. That that's not his strength in terms of you know, the stop Watch or with the with the Watch says, but I think he can out of the slot from the outside. Just get the ball in his hands and he'll create. Um. You know, I mentioned the Randall Cooper and it goes to when he was at South Carolina. He did a little bit of everything, and I think there's something to be said when you're clearly the best player on your offense and yet you're still productive, you're still able to make plays. And that was a case with something that quarterback play to everything. Yeah, I mean, I mean Drill Adams is a solid tight end. Yeah. Uh, you know, Brandon Shell's an okay offensive lineman. But after that, it's a big drop off until you get to tell of a highlight. They show that kid man Pharrell Cooper, though I love to I had I had him in the third round. Again, my third round receivers, Higgins, Lawlor Cooper. The fact that they got him here at and I've seen it seeing teams picking guys that we say Red Ridgeway to us, a second round guy Goodson, Ryan Smith, Cooper, guys that are third round players getting picked in the fourth round. You gotta like those things. If you're looking at these boards, does it bother you that he appears to have a very similar skill set to Tavon Austin. Well, I think he's closer to what day. I think he's a better catcher of the football. I'm not talking about whether he can catch, just I mean he's he's that shifty slot type of he. I mean, did the Rams have a big receiver. They have Kenny Britt. Yeah, they have Brian Quick, who was the second round or five few years ago. But I mean act like I know the Rams. I do know. I do know. I do know that they Hi j if you're going to see them in the preseason, see in the preseason. Yeah, I better study up on my Rams. Yeah, you talk about the wide receivers there, let's see. I just uh, let's see uh Bailey Stevin. Bailey's one of the guys. Brett nicktoon another guy. Yeah, yeah, so I and well, okay, I guess that makes me feel a little bit better. I just I feel like the Rams just have this rotating cast of smaller, shiftier, speedier type of receivers. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but well obviously there is, because they're trying to go out and add players to it. Yeah. I mean they've gotten Jared Goff two weapons today, so good for them. Yeah, good for them, absolutely, Okay. U My buddy Mike mccagnan is on the clock at the New York Jets at pick one eighteen. That pick is in, uh the Jets one of those teams though that uh with we always like this, the swag of Todd Bowles. You think he uh you think he helps still helps his defense or could this be an offensive pick here? I mean, I know that's captain obvious a little bit. But they they've had some they've they've had some turnover a little bit though in the secondary they have and you know that might be as we look at I look at the corner board, Mills is still out there. Yeah, look at some of the corners. Seymour from USC was, yeah, talk about you talk about I mean, Todd Bowls likes those versatile guys. I mean, Jalen Mills probably gets some difference of opinion whether he plays safety or corners. Right for you? Uh? DeAndre Hall mentioned, Harlan Miller was a mentioned. I'm just looking at some corner. I mean I think that maybe I just it's one of those things where you always I had that gut feeling about the Giants. I have a gut feeling about the Jets and maybe, you know, maybe trying to help their secondary a little bit, uh with you know, with some of the things that's gone on there with with them. So I'm about to say, you know, I'm sitting here about to say, oh, well, they let Chris Ivory go, why don't they look at running back? I forgot they signed Matt fourteen. Yeah, there you go. So it's crazy, like free agency is such a big deal for two weeks and then by the time the draft rolls around, you're like, oh, yeah, they got that guy. Yeah, the Jets. We talked about them. Uh they you know, if we look at their defensive needs again, outside linebacker, inside linebacker, uh, interior defensive line, and cornerback was a need. They have starters in place. May not be able to keep Williams after next year. Milner, That's the one. It always bothered me, the Milner pick, because I had you, Okay, well here's the Jets. The Milner pick has not worked out for them at well at alder Capers with the hundred eighteen pick in the two thousand and sixteenth draft, the selet Justin Burns. There we go back, all right, you know, what I just started, Like when I was looking at my team needs to start the day, and I thought, Okay, what's am I gonna do? Yeah, well, he wouldn't tell me who he was gonna take. He told me he was gonna take a corner. He says, we might take a defensive back. I tried to play that one off as best I could. But this is a good player here. I had a fifth round grade on him. A big kid who likes to get physical. He likes to, uh you know, get his hands involved and uh disrupt the rhythm of receivers. So I do think he can have some discipline issues at times, but he finds the football. He gets his hands on the ball. Uh you know. He looked thirty seven passes defended over his career, six interceptions. Um, I think he's going to play early in his NFL career. Yeah. The thing. The thing I had a problem, and I watched a ton of games. I didn't feel like that he was very quick, you know, and I thought he really had to hustle to run and to turn and to get in position. I did like the way he played the ball with the off hand. They used him as a blitzer. I didn't think he was always physical though. I thought he got pushed around better, but got better at times since the games went on. So some herky jerky movements with him. Uh, a little bit cautious in the way he plays. So we'll see how Justin Burrows works out for the New York Jets. This means now that the Houston Texans are on the clock and the pick is in Rick Smith. Uh yeah, Rick Smith working the phones and stuff for they do their war room in the team meeting room. It looks like that's yeah, they like, okay, scouts go all the way to the back, is what they they've got working here. So I kind of dig getting to look around at all the different setups. Uh yeah, I honestly think the Cowboys might have the most like intimate, crowded war room in there. And and it drives you nuts. I bet it does. And you need some space. Yeah, not long. We're about to go vastly different. We're about to go to have like robots with touch screens that help them put the board together. Yeah, you're absolutely right about that'd be fun, uh are you guys? The most surprised though, is we understand with Billings, but none of our running backs have gone. Yeah, hey, Dickson, Booker, Collins, John Perkins. I mean there's some guys who want to you want to play Devil's advocate for a second. Boy. I feel wrong about that group, maybe the only one. I think. We're really shocked by his Dixon. Yeah, but I don't know. I wasn't in love with Dix. I think you know, oh I was, But all those carries he had a four year starter. I mean, I think teams worry about that. Booker has the knee, yeah, and I think I can understand that hurting him a little bit. Collins the foot, No, Collins, I'm sorry. Uh, Jonathan Williams Williams, Yeah, yeah, Collins. I thought I think he's overrated, but um yeah, Jonathan Williams Collins is overrated. Okay, you guys are gonna well, here's the here's the Texans. Let's go to their pick, Chimnast and Olympic hopeful Simon Biles. With the one nineteen pick and the twenty sixteen NFL draft, the Houston Texans select Tyler Irvin running back. All right, that's a Tyler Ribando. You got to watch the Auburn tape. You drapped him on the first round. Sure, I mean the kid has got some toughness, looking like Leonard Fournette. He could fly and uh this this guy was I'll tell you what, San Jose stay, he is tough. And this kid you don't worry about. He said, Oh he's a small back. No, he's got some size to him. This guy's got You might not have the height, he's explosive and he could, but he's a physical runner with the ball in his hands. Kudos to the Houston Texans because they paid brock Osweiler a pretty penny. Yeah, and they're doing everything they can to make sure that he's set up to succeed. I mean you got, I mean you already had new Hopkins in place. You get. Did they take on day one Fuller Yeah, uh no, they took They took Doxons. Yeah, they took Josh Doxon, they took Braxton Miller, Josh Dodson took with the Redskins, I thought, Houston, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Tyler Irvin, you know he's gonna help there. It is right there. Look at I mean a center who's going to help keep you clean, right and three dynamic playmakers who you can get the ball too. He leaves San Jose State with the record all purpose yardage. I mean, he just did a little bit of everything as a receiver. He had forty five catches as a senior. Tyler Irvan did and so I think he's gonna help on special teams in return. Man, he's gonna help it at at the backfield as a change of pace type of runner. He's a very good player. Yeah. And Tyler Irvin, he is now a Houston Texan that will put the Washington Redskins on the clock right now. I want to go back to this for a second though. Okay, we were talking about it before they picked. Irvin played Devil's advocate for a sec. I tell you can have Jalen Ramsey at four, and Kenneth Dixon and DeVante Booker look like decent bets that one of them will be there when you pick at one thirty five. I feel about that. Yeah, you know what. And I I loved Zeke Elliott, but I also loved Dixon too, And I don't know if there's something wrong. Okay, we gotta trade. The Redskins are gonna back out of this pick. It looks like unless I've gotten reading this wrong. Uh, they were on the clock at at at one twenty. And let's see if, in fact who owns this pick. Now, it looks like this pick is going to belong to the New Orleans Saints. So let's see what David Hellman's hometown bunch will do. I actually, I mean they traded with the Pats last night to get up there and get Von Bell. I'd like everything they've done in this draft so far. I think Sheldon Rankins is a great player. I like Von Bell a lot. And they added and they added Michael Thomas. Yeah, Los Marcus Colston. We talked about they might want to get a big bodied receiver, while they went and got him, right. Uh, so that guy will I mean, Michael Thomas Brandon Cooks is a pretty pretty fun little combination. Signed kolbe Fleaner in free agency. Not a bad not a bad couple at Bell and uh Bell and rank and probably Day one starters. Yeah, absolutely absolutely so that that's pretty pretty nifty little draft they're having. Now. Okay, so again the Washington Redskins have moved this pick. It looks like it's in the hands of the New Orleans Saints as we've said this will be picked, uh, this fourth round pick number one twenty. Dave was talking about some of the things that the Saints were able to accomplish as this draft has has gone. You talk about you talk about, you know, maybe they draft Jalen Ramsey here and you have the combination of Ramsey and Byron Jones, Von Bell and Kenny Vacaro playing safety is not a bad little duo either, had they they have not addressed defensive line huh rank rankings as an inside player right as a tackle? And so I mean that Cam Jordan on the outside. Who else they have on the outside? Is anybody else? I mean that Jordan. That's what I need to I need to think about the dudes. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about, Cam Jordan and then uh Richardson. Uh, let's see Barnes. Yeah, it's names, It really is names. It's it's just guys. Yeah. So I mean maybe that's the spot they go here. They made the picks. So yeah, well let's see the pick is in let's see in fact, what the Saints jumped up in here. They traded with the Red Skins, and uh, let's see if they address you talked about it. Yes, Well, when we had John about it just a little bit ago, about Jordan and maybe trying to find to get him some help you know with this. Uh, well, I'm and you know obvious, I'm from New Orleans. Everybody in my life as a Saints fan, so I'm a little more plugged into that team than most right, um, and on it. I mean, I know they drafted Michael Thomas, but defense is clearly the focus for this team. I mean, Drew Brees is going to make your offense go as long as he's healthy. Yeah. The defense has been atrocious three of the last four years. Obviously got Rob Ryan run out of town. Yeah. Uh, the secondary hasn't been very good, so you get von Bell. Uh. And I'm sure they're hopeful that that Sheldon Rankins can come in and give them an interior pass rush. So I would not be surprised at all if an End is the pick here. Yeah, and Dan, do you have any available? I mean we we we we wore out Blair, someone we've talked about. We've talked about Odd Uh. Uh, We've talked about let's see Daddy Nicholas Uh Perkins, you're Dahn. We've talked about some guys. The Fanica kid from Utah, Yeah, from Utah, right there. I mean there's some names that we have have gone through, uh, you know as potential defensive ends. If if in fact, uh, that's what that the New Orleans Saints. Okay, so the Saints selection has been in. Uh, let's see in fact which direction they go. David your David on your manac. There we go, you man, that would be Manitoba. I love the story. He never played it down in football in his life until he went to Canada and he even planning on it. He was looking. He was lost on campus. Okay, this kid was lost on campus and he made his way to the football field trying and asked for directions, and the coach was like, well, why don't you come out for the team here, Yeah, why don't, Why don't you let's see what we can do with you. Hey, big guy, Yeah, you're tall, drink of water, come out, come over here and see what we can do. So he did that. Next thing, you know, four years later hes getting drafted in the NFL. That's crazy act. And that's that's twice they've done that. And a little bit of a different story, but a Keem Hicks wound up in Canada a few years ago, right Saints took a chance on him, turned into a good enough player that they traded him to New England last year. So well, that's a nice story though, that really that's crazy. Yes, So the New or States we talked about potentially the need for a defensive end. Where did you have him in ranking to where you were looking at? Where about? I had him in the fifth or sixth round, so a little earlier than I would have taken him. But I get it. I mean the thing is the biggest worry with him is when is he going to be able to helped your team? Because this is guy, this guy is as raw as blue steak. I mean, he needs time, he needs developed and if you give him that time, I think where he could be three years from down the road is going to be very intriguing. But again we're talking down the road. He's not ready to help right away. Yeah, It's it's funny to watch him play in Canada. I mean it's different. You think everybody's moved off sides every play the way they're the way that they're they're the you know, the Canadian teams. He but I did I saw a guy that could extend on blockers. I saw a guy that could redirect, play the trap. He gets off blocks, uh, and he could finish. He looks he looks the part physically, he looks the part. So you probably have a little bit of a raw player right there that you're gonna, like you say, the blue steak type player that you're gonna have to figure out how to do. Okay, well, this will put the mint. Oh Willie Beavers. Willie Beavers is that? That's he is a senior Bowl guy four one twenty one that belongs to Minnesota Vikings. Willie Beavers, Western Michigan. He is going to be with the Vikings right there, Dane some thoughts about Willie Beavers played left tackle, but a senior bullet movement inside to guard. I think he's a better guard, at least that's in my opinion. Looks like we got another pick here, right Okay, picks in for the sin said Bengals can't. Let's see if we can pull up the audio on this one. I don't think I have ever seen that Bengals mascot in my life. Remember, this is a team that has a real small scouting staff. Come to our beautiful Paul Brown Stadium and Cincinnati, OHIW. Coaches make picks here. Coaches make the picks here. Get ready, all right? Nice? I'm Dave Lapham, Bengals Alone, color analyst for the Cincinnati Bengals Radio network, to announce our next pick in the two sixteen NFL Draft. The Cincinnati Bengals would like to welcome our two sixteen draft picks, first and second round picks right here with us along with corporate partner Angie Britten and Joe Kelly, nineteen eighty six Bengals first round draft pick making fifty eight stars for the Bengals at linebacker from nineteen eighty six nineteen eighty nine to pick clues. With one hundred and twenty second pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, that Cincinnati Bengals select Andrew Billings. There you go, Andrew Billings, the defensive tackle for from Baylor. His weight is over. He is now as Cincinnati Bengal longest. Wait. Yeah, it has to be a terrible, a terrible day for him. I mean again, we all believe that he was potentially a first second round type of a talent, and here he is at pick one twenty two. The reason, you know, I mentioned earlier about the Bengals have the smallest scouting staff in the league. It's a coach driven draft, and the coaches probably said, you know what, enough, let's just take this guy that's probably a best player on the board available right there. So, uh, Andrew Billings goes to the Sins and they've had a really nice history too of developing, but especially in the Mike Zimmer. You know that Jay hay I think Jay Hayes is still the defensive line coach there. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry about I know it's one of the Hayeses, but it seems like to me, the Bengals always kind of grab that they have an understanding these defensive linemen. They tend to work out and let's just remember that it does not matter, you know, once everyone shows up for training camp, it really doesn't matter if you were drafted in the fifth round, second round. I mean, it's it's go out in the field to perform. And if Andrew Billings goes out there and uh, you know, push us for a starting role and secures a spat on the roster, then it really doesn't matter where he went in the draft because you know he's gonna be the players, So I know this is tough for him. He might be a first round pick, he falls all the way to the fourth. But you know, if he use this as motivation, use this as a chance to you know, he's already a fiery he doesn't need it, but maybe he could use this for good. I don't. I don't think it's gonna bother Andrew Billings that much. I'm just curious what what happened? What what happened with this? Yeah, and then hopefully we will figure it out. I mean, you know, Nick even who I trust more than anybody it comes to Baylor players. Yeah, because he's got the direct line, got the head coach's phone now, yeah, exactly. So it's just you know, and maybe you know, we have the audio down. I know Ian Rapp report from the NFL network is talking about he might have some information on what's going on there. We can't hear him, but usually you know, like last year, you remember Jay AGII, Right, we kind of heard the whispers like, oh it all might not be well, but we report says it's because he was a two down player. As wise value dropped. They're saying raculous to me, if yeah fall, if he goes, I don't know. I've seen so, so is Jaren Reed. I mean he's a two down player. Yeah, but I don't know. Again, the biggest thing I heard the doubts that some teams had with lack of instincts and the fact that he's so short that it takes him a little to find the ball. And so because of those reasons, he fell and he's not going to be a fit forever. Defense scheme specific. Okay, well, here's the Bears selection night. This could be one twenty four that they got from live from the Election Square in Grant Park. I'm a modern merrit former wide receiver for the Chicago Bears. Here to announce our next pick in the two thousand and sixty NFL Draft. The Chicago Bears elect to welcome coach Rich Blake and the members of the Junior Bears Youth Football League's Hamlin Park Lions Pittsburgh draft an LFW guy. Yeah, okay, we'll go back to that. There we go. With the one hundred and twenty fourth the pick and the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Dan Bush, defensive back, Miami. All right, Dion Bush, the defensive back from the University of Miami. Dave, you brought it up before that at pick excuse me, at pick one twenty three, the Pittsburgh Steelers took Gerald Gerald Hawkins tackle from LSU, and now the Bears take Dion bushd he fits it back from the University of Miami. Uh. First the thought on Dave, you have a thought LSU, lum you talk about Hawkins, UM good, good player. Honestly, I was kind of surprised that he came out early. I mean, well, obviously he fell. He fell to the fourth round. Um replace lel. Collins at left tackle? Yeah, last year, and I think honestly he's probably the least athletic of the guys that they've had in that spot over the last long while. I mean LSU usually sends their left tackle to the NFL. UM. But I mean I don't I don't have a problem with it or anything like that. I think it's probably about where I would guess he would go on. Where did you think this is early for him? Or I had a late three early four? Yeah, So this is this is about where you know and tackles. We knew they were going to come off the board pretty quickly. Um. I don't know if he's a for sure starter in this league, but I think he can be a spot starter, a guy that helps you with depth. Um, I wish you would have stayed for a se your years. Yeah that's and you know, hey, he got drafted, so he got paid. And you know, if you can get drafted, kudos to you. I don't ever hold it against a guy who goes early, but this is a guy who I mean, he could have uped his draft stock big time by coming back. And if you're not guaranteed to be a top sixty pick, I'm not convinced it's worth it to come out early. But he is a pro. Now, Okay, what the hell do I know? There we go, and any thoughts Dane about a Dion Bush not a fan. I mean, he'll come up and hit you. I just don't know. He's not an NFL starter in my opinion. I don't think he's just not reliable. He's deficient in pass coverage. He's always hunting as a run defender, and he fills the alley. He'll come up and hitch. That aggressive nature really pops off the tape. But I don't see instincts. I don't see awareness. The pursuit angles are all over the place. So I think he might be able to stick on special teams. But again I just don't see a future NFL starter here. Yeah, he is listening as to say, Okay, the Colts election is in right now. It is Antonio Morrison, the linebacker defensive in kind of a hybrid player or he's a middle linebacker. I think the other Florida player, yeah, Morrisons. I'm like, he's he's really talented in terms of talent, he's a top two round player. But this guy has had so many injuries, some knee stuff. But you talk to people at Florida, they just rave about this player he is. I mean, this get gets over used, first one in, last one out, but that's who this player is working on his injury. Were watching film. No one gets more out of his ability than Antonio Morrison. The big big question just the knees. Where are they because he's hurt both of them. He's had surgery on both his knees. Um if durable, if he if he's there's no injury questions. Antonio Morrison's the second round pick. Okay, and now Kansas City will be on the clock. Dave yet thought of something? Can I just be grumpy man for a second? I sound like Brian brought us, but like, hey, great, we're all doing great. We all know that you're you're the color analyst for the team making the pick and the big fan. Just yea, make the pick. You know we're all doing great. You've been a fan since nineteen sixty. Make the pick. We don't need it to take two and a half minutes. Just make the pick, all right, kand City Chief, You don't. Don't be grumpy man when you're fifty two years old. You could be grumpy when you're too young to be. When the Bengals guy introduced, like Dave Lappet is like my age. He grumpy guy, he introduced like three people before they made the make the pick. Come on, But well it's all about the production, Dave, you do. It's day three. This is for the nerds. All right, Well, here we go the Colts. The Colts. Uh, I guess we're gonna go one hundred and twenty fifty sixteen NFL Drafts. The Indianapolis Colts select Antonio Morrison, linebacker University of Blan talked about giant horse in the background. Yeah, they at the race make the pick. Yeah, they're at the five hundred there. That was Scott Dixon. The Colts mascot has fake snot that comes out of the Who's Scott Dixon is a championship indiecar driver. Can't wait to see Scott Dixon at the end of the Oh my gosh, Ryan's driving to the Indie five. Scott Dixon's a first round pick in my book. By the way, the hell care Oh I got you gotta love you some Scott Dixon. Dan and I are gonna be watching football. Scott dixonty times. Hey, let me tell you what. Scott Dixon in the car can fly? Let me tell you that right now. Sure give me an engine. Scott Dixon get fly? All right? Well, that that was the the Colts pick we talked about. That That was Antonio Morrison. Kansas City is now on the clock. We're gonna go back to the Air Force base and see what the who. The A Chiefs select sixth pick and the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select DeMarcus Robinson, wide receiver. All right, Dan all right, Dan Bruger, Well, we just talked about Antonio Morrison, a Florida guy who would have been a top fifty pick of healthy de Marcus Robinson been a top fifty pick if it wasn't such a knucklehead. Yeah, And that's the big issue here and the Chiefs taking a chance here in the fourth round because he's ultra talents. What do I talk about? This is my my criminal the criminal round. I'm not saying this guy's a criminal, but when you start talking about the knuckleheads, you're talking about four suspensions over Oh yeah, that would be a criminal round. I think a well, multiple failed drug failed drug tests. Yeah, he was suspended this past year for meeting with a marketing person accepting money. Just where's his head at? Is he truly invested in the game because there's so much ability here? But hey, at this point in the draft, fourth round, you take chances on guys like this, So I get the thinking here because if he if you can hone that talent and get him to stay focused. To Marcus Robinson's a darn good football play. Okay, Well, hey, we're at the bottom of the hour here, Central time, twelve thirty Central We're gonna take a couple minute break, have a chance to reset. 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Brian broad Us, Dame Burglar, David Hellman, Kent Garrison working with you today for the eighty first NFL Draft. It's the day of the scouts, I like to say, and Chicago Bears are currently on the clock. Let's go to the quick here to announce the next pick for the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft for the Chicago Bears. I'd like to welcome coach Jerry Google with the members of the Pop Water Bowling Bull Trojans with the one hundred and twenty seventh pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Chicago Bearts select DeAndre Hall d Benson back from Northern Ireland. All right, another senior Bowl guy, DeAndre Hall from Northern Iowa is the selection by the shot guy. It seemed like the Chicago Bears to just keep picking what Yeah, I know right that trading back in Yeah, I don't think they have any picks. I think they've given away some picks next year. I wasn't a fan of what they did in the first round with Leonard Floyd, but I really liked that they did in the second round. Trade backtrade backtrade back. Take Cody white Hair. Yeah. And then this is an interesting player because he's got arm laying his long arms make off of the lineman jealous. He is a rangy dude. Yeah he is. He's a four or five athlete, thirty four and a half inch arms and at six two, two hundred pounds. He's played corner, he's played rover, he's played safety. A leggy athlete, which would you expect with a six two player. Uh. The traits are what really entice you about this player, but it still has a long way to go. He's a height, length athlete, that type of guy, that profile really speaks well to NFL teams they want to develop that at his feet all over the place, doesn't routinely play under control. His anticipation needs work. So, uh, this is a guy you need to pop the hood and you know, rewire some stuff. But in terms of the rod trades, they're all there. Okay, the Arizona Cardinals are now on the clock. Look at that their team needs. We've talked about just going in we're the cornerback, a center, tackle combinations. Somehow they need to find a starting center according to what we think. And then and interior defensive lineman was another one that we talked about as well. So you know, we graded a lot of these centers, right. That's you know, we we haven't really talked about the center's position. We talked about it very early with Kelly, but we haven't talked about some of the other guys that might be ab We saw Nick Martin come off the board, see Amalo Max turk Um, but it's still Evan Baines on the board. Jack Allen Austin blythe So you said, bain I think he's that next guy. Well here we go, here we go. That was a need of their let's pickles. They got it. Cardinals player number eighty Thailand E Funny MoMA and just behind me is big red Flag football players. Just sixteen NFL drafts, the Arizona Cardinal selects Evan Bam. There you go, center Missouri. This is the next guy. Yeah. I just went to the need chart right there that every once in a while you're getting in this, uh, this area where you just say, okay, who's the best player. We have talked to some centers that have gone off the board. Talk about this young man from Missouri. Yeah, this is a player who I think he's probably a center only. Um and you know, I don't think he's going to give you much versatility as a guard or anything like that. But you know, six two, three hundred pounds, a little under size. But he he's a football lifer. That's who he is. He's he's committed to this game. Everything he does, every decision he makes, centers around his love for football. He's a leader. I think he's going to really fit well in that locker room in Arizona. A type of guy that Bruce arians is going to love. But again, he is a little undersize. He has some physical limitations, but he gets the most out of his ability, So I think he can be you know, at worst, you're talking about a solid rotational guy, right, But I do think he has starting potential. Yeah, you know, and Steve Kin, I think they do a great job there in Arizona. Terry McDonaghs sitting right there as I look at the screen, a guy work with in NFL Europe as well, some really smart personnel. Guys love the head coach there as well. You know what, and I'm sorry for interrupting you, but that's a team that I consider a threat to take a quarterback that the Cowboys like. I mean, Carson Palmer's thirty seven years old. That's you know, they were rumored to be interested in a guy at twenty nine. Well, we're getting close to that Cowboy pick. And that's so I'm looking at it right now. I mean, you know, as it stands right now, you've got Cleveland, Green Bay, Baltimore, San Francisco. Baltimore that picks before Dallas San Francisco is probably the only one that I would consider a to one a quarterback. Well, if you could get through, if you could just get through this pick at Baltimore's about to make, then you're into compensatories and then it's nobody could trade. Yeah. So I mean, and you know, no, it's and it's not your fault. I mean, it's just you just got to get through this pick. I mean you got to get through this pick. Okay. Derek Kindred, there we go and we were his pro day at TCU. They rave about this kid, a Dane and they loved he played with a collar bone problem the entire year, didn't come out. He was the practice day. Yeah, I think he took that. I mean, he didn't take the spotlight away from Dockxon. Obviously Doxon went the first round. But that's the guy that they all wanted. They loved. They absolutely loved this player. And and uh, you know that's the toughness all this Cleveland gets a player. I feel like when you watch him on tape, he is a physical player. He can cover, he could run. He's got some ability to him though. And and I like I said to it to a man, I I walked around that facility there and and every guy that came up to me said something about him and the toughness and keep an eye on him. So, uh, congratulations to him going in the in the fourth round. I had him in the third round myself, so congratulations to him as well. Okay, uh, we talked about, uh, the the Ravens now own this pick. Uh it's uh, it looks like it is in but let's see, let's talk about now if Dallas can get through this one, the teams that are head, if they're in fact, if we saw Jason Garrett working on quarterback, actually throwing the football, say it just because of the pick can't be traded, but the San Francisco could one of the mind field is right there. That that that that is the one. If I'm the if I'm in that room and I'm talking about, who's the team that could take a quarterback in front of you? Sanford sitting there at one thirty three, Dallas is sitting there at one thirty five. That appears to be the only mindfield. Now again, the Packers are team that traditionally they'll take quarterbacks just okay, but but they they they every year, it seems they take a quarterback in New England. Well, but the problem with that is, though, and it was explained to me Tom Brady is about to be suspended for four games, they don't have any other quarterbacks so they had to do something, right is Baltimore threat? I mean, I know they got Flacco. What do they have behind him? Well, if you look at that, I think San Francisco is the biggest threat right there. And uh but let's see. Heck, if you think that way right now, they might make you sweat this pick right here. I am jealous of Baltimore's hall of picks. Yeah, they got they well they had them all. And it looks like Alex Lewis. Alex Lewis is in so uh that right there, the Nebraska offensive tackle. Okay, now we're in the compensatory mode. Green Bay up this scene. You know Teddy Thompson, Teddy Thompson is a he's a pack twelve guy. He's gonna take a pack. He talked about Hunley. Yeah, he's a pack twelve something. Seas whoever, whoever's your best pack twelve player on this board is well enough for him with Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, well, whoever your whoever your best pack twelve players on this board. And we talked about Westerman, I mean he was Arizona State. Uh Martinez uh is on that board, Lawlor the receiver from cal I just have a feeling that we might see that's ted I worked with Teddy for a long time. That's him. He could use a linebacker though. Yeah, that's something that we've talked about. They wanted they they've shuffled some guys around it. It's a Facral right earlier. They did take Facul, but they play him as an outside linebacker. Brothers Martinez, I mean, if you talk like Martinez, yeah still there, Yeah, absolutely, So let's uh uh they're they're in, They're they're excited there in the Elliott Wolf just gave the fist bump to Teddy Thompson. So they got the guys that they wanted the picks in. But he loves at Pack twelve. He loves linebackers too. He took the Factral kid to play him on the outside. Martinez makes sense here because he's an inside linebacker. Brothers would be Okay, who's this is this? Sixty minutes? What's going on over here with the Pick their Kid collection from lambeau Field Jerry Craford Packer Hall of Fame. I'm actually setting in Coach Lombardi's office, at Coach Lombardi's desk that they removed from his office and put in the Hall of Fame with his memorabilia. And I think I've never been quite so uncomfortable at a desk because I am at Coach Lombardi's desk. I've had some moments on the other side of the desk that weren't so comfortable either, But it's a pleasure being here with you. And with one hundred and thirty first pick of the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select Blake Martinez. There you go, Teddy Stanford, I know you like a book. Teddy Thompson, Oh you were him back? Yeah, the war room cam is back. Yeah, warreomcam is back up. Jason, show me some three step drops and so here we go Blake Martinez. I like Blake Martinez. I like this pick. I think this guy he's always around the football. He's uh, he's always finishing plays. He's aggressive, he attacks the line of scrimmage, he has a tone set. I had him in the third round. I I just thought, like I said, Teddy's one of those guys you could read him like a book. So this is my favorite stat with Blake Martinez is he had eighty four more tackles than anyone else in the team. Last. Yeah, there you go. Eighty four more tackles and the second leading tackler on Stanford. That's unbelievable. It's a stat right there. Yeah, And that is to say, Okay, Baltimore is back on the clock. Here, we're looking at war room cam. Uh. Jerry is not in the room. Stephen is in the room. Uh. Jason Garrett is going thumbing through his Uh. I'm looking for I'm looking for a coach who can tip me off, and I don't see one. I see Walter Jueliff. Yeah, he's a quarterback guy. Walter's actually offensive line excuse me, yeah, offensive line guys. So let's see if in fact that they're gonna Chris Hall is on the phone there in the bottom ride of your screen. He is on with a Robert Blackwell, who is uh in uh in Chicago. The Ravens pick is up. Can't let's hear who? They start to announce the next pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, The Baltimore Ravens welcome back defensive back Dwayne Starks, who has the pick with one hundred and thirty second pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select Willie Henry. Willie Henry Michigan. All right, Willie Henry is a Baltimore raven. It's funny here to see that I wasn't as high. Got another line, Yeah, I wasn't high on Willy Ny. Where do you play Willie Henry? And you have an idea what we're gonna play? Will you hear the scorn dripping from Dane's voice right there? I was being very supportive, Sure you were. Yeah, So I don't know. Is he an end? Do? Is he a tackle? Yeah? You're going to Baltimore. They play mostly three four bass, right, you know? Is he gonna be a five technique? That's probably I think. I think his best spot will be at five tech. Yeah, And this is a guy when he gets moving off that line of scrimmage, he gets that first step, he can convert that first step to power and get some create some movement. That's when he can be most effective. But he moves. He can move pretty well for a size. Yeah, I think so. Sorry, j Jerry at the table, get him a bite to eat there, a big sweet tea working in front him there, and got some chown down. I wonder if he's got a little piece of catfish or something working there. Eddie Dean or find A provides our meals out there and as we work through the day here, okay, um Willie Henry Baltimore Ravens. That would put the forty nine ers on the clock. Again, these picks cannot be traded, so San Francisco's gonna have to stand in there and make a pick um. A lot of good cornerbacks on this board. We've talked about a bunch of name a bunch of different names of guys with Brown Elliott Mills was a guy. This is our criminal round. Uh. We talked about some guys, how about the train wreck and or Robinson Sean Robinson Robinson very talented guy. But if this is gonna be the round, I mean, Francisco's never been afraid to take. And so that's what I'm saying. And with with with Trent Balky as a general manager there, I just think like though the secondary to me looks like the way that you go. They might go offensive line here, but uh, you know, let's see what direction and real quick, uh, player. We didn't get to talk about Alex Lewis off the tackle that was drafted by Baltimore. Um, if he didn't have all these problems with kind of his maturity and off the field, I think he would have went higher than this because he's a darn good player. I played left tackle in Nebraska Colorado transfer. Um, you know, I had some had some off the field issues. And so as long as he can stay focused and uh, you know, not let his emotions get the best of him, he can start in this league. Okay, So we're waiting on the forty nine ers pick. It is, in fact in that is pick one thirty three. Again, competitory picks cannot be traded. Uh, as far as best available players, I'm looking at these. I got a bunch of running backs sitting up there that are waiting. I'm waiting for a defensive end to be selected. Uh, there's some cornerbacks still on this board. Uh, let's see who the forty nine ers pick. Again, it's pick four, round four, one thirty three, and uh, they we're waiting for Richard Robins LSU. There you go, my criminal round. That's uh, that feels early, but I mean, you know what though, but that's kind of this is a box player for a lot of teams. Yeahh a guy that they would not even consider drafting. But uh, you know he's he's a twig. He's very thin and doesn't have you know, bulk that you want, hasn't played in a long time because of his issues get on the field. Accountability is a strong concern with this one. So, uh, you know, if he can, if he can can get turn things around and get his life on track and staff focused on football, then you know this is a steal at this point. But that's a that's a big if. Yeah, well, we'll see in fact where how he plays out. Baltimore is now on the clock. Uh, we'll see who last pick before the Yeah, last pick for the Cowboys. And look at war room. Can they're passing the phone rounds, so they have an idea of what player they're talking to that play right now. They're talking to that player right now, so we will see who in fact that player is. Uh, you have any idea, I mean we we we said that Baltimore might be a team that could take a quarterback ahead of them. Are you worried a little bit about if you're Cowboy fans right now, Well, look who's talking on the phone. Right now. Okay, there, that's a pretty good idea. All right, So let's let's speculate here. Uh, I'm gonna quarterback. Okay, Yeah, let's go ahead and speculate here. Dak Prescott. Hands are all handshakes all around. It's Dak Prescott. They did a lot of work on. They did more work on Dak Prescott than any other uh player. Yeah, and so uh if they feel like against the Ravens pick it might be already in. And uh, I'm gonna speculate my guys here, August, let's talk about Dak Prescott a little bit then if if need be. When H. Kenneth Dixon just went off the ball, Okay, yeah, there you go, Kenneth Dixon to the Ravens and so again, compensatory picks flying out the board. Kenneth Dixon, somebody we said might want a running back with Justin Forsett. I know. I mean, there's this confusion all day yesterday about whether the Ravens actually wanted Ezekiel Elliott. H. Kenneth Dixon's not a bad console. Okay, just looking at war room cam right now with Scott Lenahan on the phone, we're gonna say Dak Prescott. We're gonna call it Dak Prescott was gonna be the pick for the Cowboys here. Uh if if they did not taken a Zekiel Elot maybe this was a running back. We talked about Dixon, Booker, those guys, but it looks like that they call that a coup if this is Dak. Yeah, because this is a guy that we mocked to them at sixty seven. Yeah, yeah, absolutely so we thought at some point in time it is hand looks pumped. Yeah, everybody's shaking hands. So good for h good for them in fact, if that's the pick. So, uh, we're still waiting for the We we got the Ravens pick, which was Dixon, and we're now about to get the Cowboys pick again. This is fourth round pick one thirty five. On all the build up that we had going into the on the draft show, we started talking about fourth round corner quarterbacks yea, and where they take one at one on one, would they take one at one thirty five? It looks like at one thirty five we're gonna get the pick here of Dak Prescott. U in their war room again, everybody shaking hands and uh so your thoughts on the pick there, Dane. In fact, if that's the case, on see it's you gotta I love the pick. That's what it is. I point the draft this might be when you talk about like value and player and everything, it might be the best one they've made so far. Yeah, I like Dak more than any of the other non first round quarterbacks that have gone. Yeah, that to me, it was in the in the fourth round quarterbacks, it was Cook, Prescott and Alan. We had Cook go earlier in the day. Prescott would be the next one on my board. And so hopefully here's the announcement. So let's get to it. KNT get the Pro Football Hall of Fame and also the Ring of Honor. I'm here to have to douce. I'm next announ sir mister John Trevino of Muno Telemulo Muno Company here in Dallas. And fourth, thank you, thank you, mister. Right with with Telemundo, I'm happy to present in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, our Dallas Cowboys select Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott. Funny, it's funny. Sometimes it really is as obvious as it seems like it's written on the wall. You know. Yeah, we knew they liked Dak at the Senior Bowls. They met with him there, right, they met with him at the Combine. They've worked him out. Um. Wade Wilson has worked with him a lot over this draft process. He said, the Cowboys kind of gave him an idea of where they were looking at him. If you think back to I think February when he was talking to the media, Yeah, at the Combined media availability, right, he said, Wade Wilson kind of gave him a sketch of where they were thinking about taking them, and sure enough, they weighed around and get their guy. Honestly, I would have I would have celebrated this pick at sixty seven and they get it, you know, almost two rounds later. I think it's a great pick. What about it, Dame? I thought he really you know, in twenty fourteen as a junior, we really heard about Dak Prescott as a Heisman contender. Okay, but this past year he really grew from a thrower into a passer. Uh. He was a different player. He was a much more accurate player. Uh, you know, the way he saw the field I thought improved. He didn't rely on his legs as much. But when he did look to run, He'll run over you. He's a tough guy. But the reason you love Dak Prescott so much is the leadership, his poise, his intangibles. He did have the DUI during the draft process and that was very uncharacteristic. But with Dak Presscott, he's an excellent addition to the quarterback room. Yeah and uh and I mean no, I'm sorry, I just you know, I've talked plenty about Cardell Jones, but this is, honestly, it's a better it's a better scenario. It's you're talking a very seasoned, experienced player. Dane mentioned his his maturity, his leadership, his locker room presence. This guy, if you think about it, reset the standard for football at Mississippi State. An I mean, that was the program where six wins was something to celebrate. He got him into the playoff discussion. He took them to the BCS. This guy like skied down a hill. Make the pick, Jake Plummer, make the pick. In the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, but one hundred and thirty sixth pick, the Denver Broncos select DeVante Booker, running back out of you. Here we go, calling off the board yall. It took was Kennedy Dixon running off the board. So now we have uh, we now have a Dixon off Booker off, so that takes care of those second round running backs. Uh, I too, am uh I too. I do like to pick a Dak Prescott here. I do. I see a guy though that on the move, throws the ball very well, especially going to his left. I've seen it come back to his second receiver. Uh. You know, I think he tends to lock onto guys, and you know that's that's something that you can work with him. There was a lot of times in mississipp State where I didn't think he got a whole hell of a lot of help. You know, Yeah, there was there. There was some times where it was all about him and he had to make those plays. But I will say this though, his physical traits are outstanding in his sense of urgency, need to see that a little bit better with hiall a little too long, hold the ball a little bit too long. But there's so much things to work with with him in and out of the pocket. Though, I do I'm happy for them to make this pick because of where I felt liked again him. Connor Cook Allan or all those guys I had right there in the fourth round. There are four players in FBS history they have thrown for seventy touchdowns over career and rushed for forty touchdowns over career. He's one of them. I mean, he's one of the most prolific passers to ever come out of the SEC. Know, broke every single record at Mississippi State. He just makes everyone around you better. And to me, that's why you know, that's what I look from a quarterback, And do you elevate the play of everyone around you? And I think Dak Prescott does. Yeah. Rowan Kavner, old co worker of ours and friend of the program. He wants to know how feel about Prescott at the point of a Dak, I thought that was pretty good. We were always with rowing. It's a game with you guys, isn't it right? Oh? It always is. Um another another point that I think is worth bringing. Actually two points. I want to well, I want to ask you one. But first of all, let's talk about the fact that the Cowboys have now made what's that four? Have they made four picks? Four picks? Yes? Or five? No? Five? Yeah? And the vast majority of them have that like boy scout type of face of the franchise, reputation, no question marks off the field or on. Jalen Smith comes to mind. You saw Jason Garrett beaming about drafting him. Dak Prescott again. I mean, he's going to be the face associated with Mississippi State football for a long time to come. And then Zeke Elliott, who you know, nothing really to worry about off the field in addition to being one of the elite talents. I wonder if that's a reaction to things that they did last year. Obviously, the Randy Gregory pick right kind of blew up in their face a little bit. Greg Hardy clearly failed to work out the way they wanted it to. He saw it a little bit with Byron Jones last year, and it's kind of a trend that's developed here too. Boy scouts who are pretty good at football. Yeah, let me ask you, okay. And by the way, Green Bay at one thirty seven took Dean Lowry, the defensive end for Northwestern, So green Bay pick one thirty seventeen. Lowry, do you see Denk Prescott as a future NFL starter? Is it? Do you think he is that type of player? I'll tell you what, I don't see traits that would lead me to not believe he wouldn't be a future starter. I mean I think that, you know, if if he could work on the things that we talked about, the sense of urgency of getting rid of the football and a lot of it again might be because of his teammates, you know, maybe he doesn't have to trust in the Maybe he doesn't you know, maybe he was trying to find a way. Hey, I almost have to be perfect with these guys. I like the physical traits of this player, you know, and especial the league. We have to have mobility. You have to be able to buy time. You know, he's got a little bit of an overhand throwing motion too. They got to tighten him up on some stuff. Doesn't it kind of help you? Maybe one explain what Jason Garrett was doing exactly, trying to talk about that over the top of the throwing motion, shuttle, I mean with Tim Tebow to him. Oh yeah, in that respect, throw us the ball better he does. He's yeah, exactly, but he is definite, there's no question. But definitely need some mechanical corps. Yeah, he will need that. And you know, but that's what they'll do, hopefully that they'll come in here, tighten up the throwing motion and then find a way to uh to get it down obviously. Okay, Princeton, I'd tell you what Cleveland's got. All those IVY League guys in that front office now a lott of Harvard, and they just took an IVY League IVY league dude that, uh, you're not gonna find him in my book, I set say the bill the valve, the valve wide receiver from Princes. Well, they list him is a tight end sept the valve right in Princeton. He goes to pick four one thirty eight, the compensatory pick to the Browns, seth de Valve and it's not gonna be He's not the beast. No, this is not a player I wrote up, but uh, he his name did come up at some points during the during the process. But this is not a player that I watched tape on. So you didn't break down any you didn't break down any Princeton, not not this player. But I did see his name a couple of times. Uh, A few teams did work come out so right, But a little surprise to see him come off here in the fourth Yeah, so Seth de valve uh is it goes to the Cleveland Browns. It pick one thirty Can I be? Can I be Cowboys nerd? And bring you back to the Cowboys for a second. Let me just finish something real quick. Yeah, this is gonna We're gonna finish the fourth round here. If you remember, the Cowboys do not have a fifth round selection, so the Bill's making the pick will be the final uh pick in the fourth round. It's a compensatory pick. Some good players there. Look at Dixon, Prescott, Booker the last five pick. I mean, think about that, bang bang bang right there. Some guys two second round picks on my board, and in a fourth round pick as well. So we go to the Bills to finish this, to finish this round out and then we get into some some fourth round picks. Do you feel better about the direction though? The Cowboys what they did at one on one and one thirty five. I like them both a lot. I like both of the things they did today so far, and obviously they have plenty more picks to go right. But you get a big pass rusher again, you know, does he work out? Who knows he's pick one on one. But I like the measurables that Charles Tapper brings to the table. It was clearly a position everybody was worried about addressing. They got. They have two basically top one hundred picks on the defensive line. Now in addition to the guys they already had, right, and you get, honestly, one of the better options at quarterback outside of the number one and number two pick. All right, let's go to the Bills. Get at one thirty five. Let's go the Bills. You're gonna f bill. I'm here along with season ticket holder Andrew Crozier here at the seven one six in downtown Buffalo to make the fourth round selection for the Buffalo Bills. Andrew Crozier make the pick. With one hundred and thirty ninth pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select Cardell Jones quarterback. Oh damn Hellman, you got it, Rex, you know what's up. They took all those defensive players, and finally David Hellman stood up on a table and said, enough, Cardinal Jones. This man right here, this man is he's gonna do things. He's gonna do things now. I mean, the Cowboys got Dak and that's fine. Dak will be great. Dak's a more polish passer. Eleven games. How about him standing up here eleven games? I think he's Jesus excited that the twelfth buck guys off the off. That is the twelfth buck eye off the board. I hired Cardale at one point and in one of my seven round moks going to Buffalo in the second round. So I do like the fit in terms of where he's headed. Uh not, gonna be press an action from day one? Can you kind of learn and grow and you know, can be a backup because that's what he is and that's what he needs to be right now until everything else else catches up. But it should be interesting to see how he does. Okay, so we're now going to do great Dane. We're now into the We're now into the eleven Games. Fifth round, fan, I have the draft. Lets you guys don't care. He's gonna be go No, we care, we care. I'm just trying to get this thing to break real quick. Here. We're gonna take a little break when we come back. Dallas does not have a fifth round selection. So what I want to do. 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David Hillman, Brian Broadest, Dame Brugler, Kent Garrison, Executive producing Um. We're into the fifth round right now. Tennessee Titans have taken Taja Sharp, wide receiver from U Mass. Kind of a guy that we thought about might be going a little bit sooner than that. I know. I liked him, probably a little bit more than you did right there. Yeah, a seventh round grade on smaller hands. Um, but he does catch everything that it comes his way. Okay, we do have a pick right in with forty forty nine, and we'll get to Carolina made a pick before the forty Knights. But I want to get to this, uh San Francisco pick. I'm interested to see who they draft here at one forty two here, no, now, it's our next pick for the twenty sixteen NFL Draft. The San Francisco forty nine ers would like to welcome I, um, same, make the pick forty nine ers, like when the hundred forty second pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the San Francisco forty nine ers select Ronald Blair. Here we go Appalachians State. Okay, look at Daniel. They got Daniel Jeremiah and he must have called the pick right there, but he probably had Ronald Blair up there like the rest of us. Did you know, as in this class. Yeah, so Ronald Blair, uh defensive in Appalachian State. I really liked it. Six two, two hundred and eighty four pounds. He was a guy that I had, I know in our one oh five three board had him in the third round. So here he goes at the top of the fifth. Uh. I'm very anxious to see how he pans out for Daniel. Oh, I know what the connection is for Daniel Jeremi App State. There you go, so good for Daniel Jeremiah. Ask you a question, sure the draft, the guy out of app State. How did you feel about somebody from Entree State? You know what I mean? Yeah, I got you what you say? Hey, you're hey, You're sorry. All really, I'm really pumped about the pun possibilities. Yeah, you're you're working very hard right now on these puns. I know. All right, here we go. Uh, Zack Sanchez went to the Carolina Panthers talk about Zack Sanche Christian. Yeah again another one of these big twelve corners that it's feast for famine, right, Uh, play off. There there were times when we were Zack chant Zach Sanchez on tape when he never even you know, from the start of the route to the completion of the catch, never came within ten yards of the of the receiver, right, he just he guarded against that speed. Wanted to be you know, bait those throws and pick off throws. But I don't know. He needs a lot of work, but he knows how to uh find the football and make interceptions. A former wide receiver. Okay, this is the Raiders are on the clock right now, their picks in. This is the pick that the Dallas Cowboys owned. This would be the Cowboys pick one three. But when we did we did the Yes, this is Brycepeller when we made the when I do it our mock trafts, we were trying to get this pick back. Yeah. When we were doing the draft show, guys that were on the board, we talked about Higgins was a guy they visit. Lawlor was a guy that you know, we've talked about lists of b the wide receiver that there's some there were some options there, but we'll see that. Okay, ken't We'll talk about the Raider pick when they make it. KNT Garrison's got some calls lined up. Guys, We're all doing great. Happy Draft day to y'all and Kent. Who do you got? We'll start with Michael and san Antonio. Go ahead, Michael, Hi, guys, um what I love about when y'all have to do the draft, as y'all compared drafts fire draft to this draft class. So that's my question. Can you flip blof the draft picks, um we are, would a Byron Smith or players we took last year have gone in this draft? And where with the players that we've taken today and earlier gone in last year's draft? And I'll hang up and listen to your of course answer, that's some extensive work right there. I'd have to sit down and flip talk about Byron Jones. I think I don't think i'd take it Byron Jones if you talk about the Only thing that's tough when you do this is we know how Byron Jones has done in the NFL. We know how these guys you know, like like Randy Gregory, you know, we know what's going on with him. So it's always tough doing this because we have some type of uh uh, you know, sample size in terms of how they pan out, but just going on how they graded as prospects. I think we both had Byron Jones as it was mid first rounder, right, we were surprised he fell as far as I did. I remember that absolutely. I had him as my eleventh best player on the board. Well, he was not the best twenty seventh best player. We said that on draft night, right, obviously we say that. Now. Yeah, um, you know where would he had gone in this class? I don't know. I mean it's it's hard to say. You know, what, do you have gone ahead of Eli Apple? Yeah? Exactly? You know, maybe you know. I think you could certainly make that argument, but I think we can all agree it wasn't the best twenty seventh best player. William Jackson, you know those are guys, I mean, William Jackson, Apple, Hard Graves. I mean, tell me this for a for a draft that was as skimpy on elite pass rushers as this one was at the top. Right, Uh, you think Randy Gregory falls as far? And I mean we're talking you have hindsight, you know that he's screwed up. Yeah, he's going to be suspended. Go back to last year where you're taking a gam maybe if he didn't fail the drug test, even even if he does, even if he does fail the drug test, you think he falls as far as he did last year. Oh No, I think he still falls. I think that sixty I think the drug test does a lot to these people. I really do. Um, real quick, with that pick that the Raiders took, they took DeAndre Washington, uh, the running back from Texas Tech, and he goes to the Oakland Raiders. The pick that the Cowboys sent for Bryce Butler pick five one, five one forty three. Uh, DeAndre Washington running back for Texas Tech. I mean, I think, and then the Broncos pick this is a pick that they originally Yeah, Connor McGovern Cowboys guy, Yeah, the guard from Missouri goes to uh, the Denver Broncos. Okay, Ken, who do we got? We're gonna go to Minnesota and Peyton go ahead, you're up. Hey, hey, guys, I'm really excited to think about Prescott running the read option with Zeke. I think that'd be pretty cool. Um, do you guys think he could be a quarterback two right away? Or do you think Calin Moore is going to keep that spot for a while? And then, real quick, um, I really want to get back into the fifth round. Do you see us trading Ron Leary because I really want to get Jeremy cash and parent with Byron Joes back there for the next decade. I think that would be awesome. Yeah, thanks guys, thank you pretty much. I love that you got a plan that's awesome. Like he wants he wants to trade Leary, he wants to go to the fifth and he's got a player in mind. Yeah, that's a great call. Right. Most people are just like we go trade and they don't know what they want to do with it. If you could get Ron, if you could get back in this round for Ron Leary, by all means, try and do it. And I totally agree with with with that. I agree with I agree with all of that interview too, though. He answered QB two, I yeah, yes, I think Dak Dak can handle QB two. I don't know, what do you. I think you own a training camp, open competition, Yeah, you and I's got absolutely he can secure that job. I mean, Kellen Moore has the leg up in terms of his football knowledge and uh, you know, but I'm really excited about that quarterback room. Yeah, I mean, I think you're talking about some really bright quarterback minds. You know, Kellen Moore. I'm not a believer. I think his physical skills really limit him. But in terms of his ability above the neck, you know, with that having Tony in there adding Dak to that mix, Yeah, he's got a chance to really learn and it really makes some strides right away. So I think, maybe not right away, but at some point we're gonna see Dak take over that number two role. Really interesting point that I thought he made too. And it's so hard to project because we don't expect Dak to really play a lot of quarterback anytime soon. Dak Prescott and Zeke Elliott both do have a lot of experience with that read option. Yeah, and honestly, even Dak's athleticism. Yeah, maybe they don't run, they don't go full Colin Kaepernick, but this is a guy that I think you would do well to adjust your offense for right Yeah. Absolutely. Can you see this coaching staff doing something like that? I mean, well yeah, I mean they did stuff the Lucky Whitehead. Yeah, they did a lot of things with Lucky Whitehead to try and get him involved in the game plan. So how cool would it be to see just like a package. I mean, obviously Dak would have to prove that he can, that he's worthy of being on shield. Sure, maybe I'm third down, you know, you never know. That's kind of stuff. Another thing that I was going to bring up, and I want to you to tell me if I'm crazy. Dane mentioned Tim Tebow himself. This dude's I mean, what are Dak's measurables? Dan six five to what two fifty? He's not that big twenty five maybe, yeah, he's he's six two twenty six. Yeah, so that yeah, but I mean that's around what Tebow. I mean, it's kind of what you when you picture Tebow this is he's kind of in that mold. But he's a much better passer. Okay, sorry, Brian. The reason I bring it up goal line, Yeah no, that's yeah, sure, gone. He's a physical runner and he's he lowers his pass ye run over right, see that far more in college than the pros. But I would be interested to see how he would do as a goal line option for the I mean, hey, goal line and Jumbo was a disaster for this team. So anything you can do to get you that extra half yard, Okay, I'm with you on that. Okay, ken't we got you said you got one more that we got Xavier and Austen Zavier go ahead. Uh, I'm just I'm really impressed with the draft of so far I did. If the Cowboys putting together home, but in the sixth round, who are possibilities that we can positions that we can go after? And uh as far as priority free agents, last year we kind of hit on lucky. Why I hit it right? Who who will we be possibly looking at this year? Yeah, we gotta get that, thank you. We gotta get through this fifth round. Really, I mean if you yeah, there's some there's gonna be some names on this board that that we're gonna that we're gonna like. But I think that you gotta get you know this, Like I said, we got some third round grades on this board. I got a large number of fourth round grades on this board. Who got some fifth round grade? So yeah, I mean, it's just to me a matter you're gonna be able to carry carry it enough guys over. I think it's hard to project who will be there because there's been some guys that have been taken earlier than I thought. Okay, well, let's go to our phone lines here and welcome the newest member of the Dallas Cowboys, Dak Prescott from Mississippi State. Dak, you got Brian, Dave, and Dane, and you're talking to two men that went to school at LSU. But we're really happy to have you here with the Dallas Cowboys. Welcome, welcome aboard. Yes, I appreciate it. Excited to be part of the team. Well, you you when when we were talking about you here on Dallas Cowboys dot com a lot you were visiting with the Cowboys. It seemed like you were having meetings here, you had lunch here, they worked you at the Senior Bowl, all these kinds of different meetings you did. It was pretty extensive the research that the Cowboys did on you leading up to this pick. Oh yeah, I met with him a good bit mail with him for the first time with the Senior Ball, and I'm in back and meeting with him at the combine and then they flew cook Wilson flew in the starting Ville to work me out private and went to lunch and then, uh, the last trip I made actually was to Dallas, So they saved the best for last for that. Yeah, And then so it was it was an exciting and I got a good feel of the coaching staff and I couldn't be more happier with where I am. Just to kind of expand on that, Dak congratulations again. Um, you know, the draft, it's it's so it's such a long process and there's so much information out there. But you know you you talked at the combine and as far back as February about the Cowboys talking to you about this possibility, and uh, to have it work out this, I guess cleanly. Uh. And and I know you've mentioned that that you grew up a Cowboys fan. It has to be pretty exciting to just kind of have it be that straightforward. I guess, yeah, at the America's team, and I can't be more more excited to be playing for him. And I'm gonna have to I grew up at the Cowboys from Cowboys fans obviously. Oh yeah. So, I mean it's it's awesome. When I got the phone call from mister Jones, was a drink from Dakka. We were talking about as our group, a little bit of uh with now with Zeke Elliott, maybe some read option stuff for you guys. I mean, you're one of the you're one of the best ball handlers at this quarterback. Can we see you maybe get on the field a little bit earlier. Maybe they have Tony walk over to the sidelines and search you in the game and get a little read option here going off, We'll see. I'm going to do whatever the coaches asked me to do, whatever role that may be, whatever plays that may be. I'm just excited and Zeke's a great back and I excited to be a teammate that. Like I mentioned, I mean, the draft process is so exhaustive. You know, we've broken all this down from all angles. You know, obviously you've been focused on getting picked. Now that you are with the team, You're with the Cowboys. Uh, what what have they told you or what have they talked to you about about what they want you to work on or top priorities and things to focus on when when you get into work here. Oh yeah, that's something that we'll discuss. I'm sure when we get into there. But obviously the one thing I've got to get better and just keep the tenue to work on is just drops from mind of the Senate because I hadn't been asked to do it in high school, in North College, so it's more just getting repetition, getting reps at and getting comfortable doing it. So I'm excited. I'm excited to do whatever they are and I'm a hard work and I'm out work everyone, so I'm excited for whatever they don't throw at me. Well, I remember the newest newest member the Dallas Cowboys, Dak Prescott. Dak, thanks so much for joining us. Look forward to seeing you here in a few days. Enjoy this time with your family, and we'll see you down the road over rats. Yes, sir, thank you, Dak Prescott. I was member of the Dallas Cowboys. Like I said, quarterback Mississippi State. Uh the uh, some picks have been made. Let's see where at the picks. Seattle just trade it up for this pick right here. Okay, Seattle's now Seattle just traded up for this pick. We'll go back to let's see, this is Seattle's pick, and let's see who they take here. I'm always at the mercy of these long winded things. Dave Hellman just wants him to turn the card in and go. You like to bet when the commissioner didn't the pick, make the pick, I'm sorry, and I feel like a jerk because these kids are cute. They're playing flag football. It's probably a special day. Quake the pick. Quentin Jefferson, the defensive tackle from Maryland is the selection. And now before that, the Baltimore Ravens took Matt Judon the linebacker. They listened to the linebacker Grand Valley State. He'll be a pass rusher, absolutely, and we'll get to him. And then before that, San Francisco took John Thas the offensive tackle from Georgia. So you are caught up theis to the forty nine erst one forty five. Baltimore at one forty six takes Matt Judon. I want you to talk about Matt Judon a little bit. Yeah, Matt ju Don from Grand Valley State talk about production twenty three and a half tackles for loss as a senior, twenty one sacks, so he blockers at the D two level had no answer for this player. Uh, you know, his quickness off the snap, he had some flexibility to bend the edge. And so he's going to face a large jump here going against D two tackles face now facing NFL town So there will be a big learning curve and he's going to be a work in progress against the run. But the pass rush traits the rod trades, Yeah, very intriguing and so um, you know I get to pick here and he's going to Baltimore's having a heck of a draft here. Yeah, sure added another star player. Yeah, they sure did. And that's what we always know about Ozzie Newsom. You know, he's a guy that has an idea, been a long time general manager since nineteen ninety six. There's a lot of consistency in the way they draft, the way they evaluate players. They got an outstanding head coach and John Harbaugh been there a long time now, so they clearly have a plan in what they want to do with the players. Tampa Bay is on the clock at pick one, forty eight. The pick is in Um that we but this which this is kind of your observations of Dak Prescott, just what he was what just some of the things he was saying. And he's going to a good situation with uh you know mentioned it with Tony Romo and Kellen Moore in that quarterback room. He's gonna have the chance to be a sponge and soak up all that information and learn. Um. You know, when you watched him, I think you gave a good snapshot because there's a lot to like about him. But he does have some flaws. Uh, you know, he needs to do a better job feeling that rush, anticipating throws and delivering downfield. But again, I think he really developed from a thrower into a passer over the last year. Uh. He trusts what he sees more, he trusts his teammates. He's not just a runner, but he can do that and finish. He'll lower his pads and run over linebackers. So but again, the biggest thing here, the leadership, the poise that he has. Those intangibles are why I think he's a Dallas cowboy right now. It's I mean, it's hard to projects such a different offense. It's obviously a different level of football. But the guy talked about playing center to learn how to do that. Only that, I mean the guy flirted with seventy percent completions. Yeah last year. I mean he had a really good He threw five paces. He let us up a couple of times at LSU. I know that he had a he had a fantastic and Yeah, and he got better every step of every year he was there. He got better, just like Dane just said. Um, and the fact that he's under no immediate pressure to play quarterback. Knock on wood, assuming Tony Romo is healthy. Uh, And you know, I think this is an ideal, ideal spot for him to step into. Yeah, and I think what Dane's talking about. I love that the character this guy, I mean, I do. I think he wants to come in. He's gonna work hard, it's gonna be the best he can at it. I think it would be a little bit disappointing because he is I mean, he's a known name, he's an All American type of player, he was a Heisman contender. It would probably be a little disappointing for fans and media if he didn't win the quarterback, back up, the backup job. Right. But even if he doesn't, uh, you know, you're talking about pick one thirty five. I don't think that's the end of the world either. Given how good these guys feel about Kellen Moore, I know not everybody does, but the coaching, I mean, Scott Lenahank clearly loves him. Jerry was impressed with what the glimpse that he saw of him. So I think that's a great situation for Dak and that I don't think there's even immediate pressure to be the backup right away, right, But I'm very interested to see how that competition plays out. A pick one forty eight that would be Tampa Bay. They took Caleb Ben a knock the uh the tackle from UCLA. Dave, how do you like this? I went and got pronunciation guys, all the players from the UH. Well, I went and I looked it up. Look at you. I looked it up because I'm I'm I hate when I hate when I mess these players names up. Oh you need the draft guy. Yeah, they got the draft guy. That's but this this is my hand that in January, because you know what, Dave, I got so tired of you yelling at me. The Giants picks in right now, and uh, let's see where they go. Right here, David Tyree and I'm here with Mary Beth and all our friends with the make a wish. I mean, I can't. I'm sorry. Of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the New York Giants select Paul Paul Perkins, running back. Take Paul Perkins. How about that one guy the Cowboys brought in. They talked to him. He was a guy that he was kind of in that range of running backs that the Cowboys were looking at. We we had, uh, we had the Elliott's and the Henrys and the Procises and the Collins and the Perkins. Good spot for him right here. Dane probably looks like on my board is a fourth round pick. Pretty good value, right He gave a fourth round grade as well. Five ten, two hundred and ten pounds player who between the tackles is not going to give you a lot of juice. He doesn't have that power, but he runs determined, you know. He It's not for lack of trying. And so I think in space he can make some guys miss um and you can catch him out of the backfield. He had eighty catches over his career for UCLA, So I think that'll be a big part of what he brings it. He just brings a different type of back to that Giants backfield. You think what the Giants have back there with Jennings and Jane Vereen. I think he just brings a different style of back that it'll help compliment everyone else. Well, the Cowbos will get to see him twice. You get to see him opening day too. Nephew or great grand nephew, Don perkinsis he's in the Cowboys ringbond? Uncle, Yeah, exactly, So s I means use LA players go back to back. Jim Mora it is sees his tackle and a running back. I love and when you study every player in the draft, obviously you kind of have an idea of a lot of them, all of them for Yal, but I just love how these these guys with connections to us seem to find their way to the other NFC East teams. I mean, Isaac Sumalu went to Philly last night. Paul Perkins is now going to be running at the Cowboys foreseeable future. So that that might be my favorite part about about the Draft show and just learning about the draft is they're only going to take nine of these guys, right, but you're gonna have an idea about all three hundred of them, and hopefully so when Paul Perkins runs for you know, a buck twenty against the Cowboys next year, you're gonna say, ah, I knew that guy. You knew Paul perk. Okay, the Bears are the Bears are on the clock. Well, the pick is in for the Bears. This is gonna be pick five, one fifty the Bears. Man, it's hard to keep up with all the things that they've done. They've been moving around. Now let's see the Bears. Here's the announcement of their pick apart. I'm Jason Keith, former Chicago Bears fullback to announce our next pick in the two thousand raft, the Chicago Bears that likes a welcome Lieutenant Colonel Brian Kellner of the United States Marine Corps. With the one hundred and fiftieth pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Jordan Howard. Here we go running backs. Okay, here the running backs that have gone so far. Let's think about this. Uh, DeAndre Washington went at one forty three. Early before that, you had DeVante Booker going as a supplemental pick. So yeah, say Booker one thirty six January, Washington one forty three. You have Perkins going to one forty nine, and now Jordan Howard, the running back from Indiana goes it went fifty to the Chicago Bears. I go into a situation where they lost Matt Forte, right. Uh, you know, Langford is penciled and as a starter, but they need some more some more bodies back there to you know, help take some carries. And this this guy is uh, he's a little longer than you want, taller than you want for the running back position, six foot two hundred thirty pounds. But what he did at Indiana this past year, rushing for over twelve hundred yards. He was banged up quite a bit, but he runs physical and he's not shy about lowering his pads and uh, you know, delivering a blow, powering forward. So you see that balanced lean and I think that's the best thing to like about it. I thought he got better as the year war on. I didn't think his tape was as good early as it was later they got into that big ten schedule, and he seemed to kind of lit him a little bit in some of those games where he's able to do okay. K Garrison tells me, we've got some of the audio from Dak Prescott's call to Jerry Jones. Let's listen to her. Jerry Jones and your Dallas cowboy, how are you doing. Listen. We're glad you're here, excited about it, and you've had a really outstanding career that a Mississippi state, but we are excited about it. We've got your coordinator and your head coach, all of them quarterbacks, they will really be able to give you some great coaching. Yes, sir, I'm excited. I'm glad you are because we're excited about it to Okay, thank you, Dak. Here's here's I want you to talk to our head coach, Jason. Yes, here, Dak, what's some quach? Congratulations buddy, I appreciate it. How are you? I'm good, good, exciting. Now. Well, it's a great day for you, but it's a great day for us too. Excited to have you on our football team. Yes, sir, I appreciate the coach. I'm ready, you're ready to get the work. I'm ready. Congrats again. I got Scott Linehan right here. Who wants to say hello to you? All right? Job man? Congrats? Yes sir, thank you, Dack? What's up? Coach? Congrats? Man, appreciated, appreciate, excited. I am trusting me. I know you are. How to feeling this might happen? Oh yeah, yes, sometimes you know, people belong together, you know what I mean. That's right, Hey, it's gonna be fun. You get ready to go. We're gonna be slinging around here in about three days, four days exactly. All right, Hey, hey, look forward to it. You got my number, right, I think I get here, But all right, I'll let you go celebrate. It sounds like you got a crew there. All right, buddy. This is just me being a total ass because that's what I am. But just once, when Jason Garrett asks him if he's ready to go to work, I want the guy to be like, nah, I'm gonna go party. Yeah, yeah, No, I'm sorry about that, coach. Okay, well, here is the Detroit Lions are gonna we'll get back to Prescott. Detroit Lions with their selection. This is gonna be pick one fifty one in the fifth round the tooth. I was in sixteen NFL Draft. The Detroit Lions select Joe Dall tackles Washington State. Joe Dall Okay, we always talk about the Lions had a third round grade on him. I thought he was a guy in the top one hundred you take a chance on. He was a left tackle at Washington State, also played some left guard originally at Montana, transferred to Washington State. Kind of bet on himself, but very balanced player, natural body control, flexible. I think he has the instincts that you want. Very competitive player. I think he can be a long term starter in this league. So I like Joe Dall quite a bit. What he can the death that he brings immediately, and then also the fact that I think he can win a starter job. Yeah, and I'll tell you what, I don't disagree with anything you said. The Lions are team. It always seems like they're hunting for offensive lineman and Joe Dall is a guy that I do agree with. That gives them two pretty good ones in this draft, doesn't Glasgow earlier? Yeah? Then three because they took a tackle in the French round Taylor Decker keep Matt Stafford up trying to trying to add some young guys to uh to that defense. Okay, let's talk about the conversation with Scotland Ahan and Da good Dad. That's like how I would say it. Well, he said, this is, you know some things you meant to be together, and that's what I was kind of trying to get it. You were you were trying to That's why I wanted to circle back around. The dots were here and like I mean, it just and a lot of times it's too good to be true. And you know there's smoke screens and other teams like the guy. But we first thought Dak might be a possibility here as far back as late January or early February, and and low and behold it works out that way. Well, pick one fifty two now is well not now? It is it? Uh is one that the Washington Redskins got earlier with a trade with the with the New Orleans Saints. This will be the Saint's original pick. But now it's in the hands of the Washington Redskins. So we'll see what Scott McCluin will do. This isn't this isn't any kind of revelation, but it is. It's fascinating that Dak Prescott is going to be surrounded by former quarterbacks, between Wade, Jason Garrett and Scott Linahan. And I wonder, and we talk about the Cowboys picked Jalen Smith, and a lot of it probably had to do with with them employing Jalen Smith's doctor. Uh. I want and you know Dane's taught. You know, he's got to work on his mechanics, he's got to work on his throwing motion. He's got just a little quicker in this decision. I wonder how much of their willingness to take Dak Prescott has to do with the amount of quarterback expertise they have on this coaching staff that can help him out. Well, there's some people to argue they haven't ever developed one with all the expert fantastic point was pretty much that Tony Romo was Tony Romo. So you know, I don't have I think that's an exaggeration. Well, you know, well there's some people that believe that. Well, and hey, they definitely haven't developed many. Granted they've only spend a draft pick on one in the last you know, twenty years, but uh, I think that's fascinating. And the best part is, you know what's great about this, Brian, if you take Paxston Lynch at twenty six, there's a lot of pressure for that to be right and for that to be made. That they made the determination to go, No, I know they made That's that's what you have to look at. That they felt nothing about that, And honestly, I would have been fine with that if they had done that. But at twenty six, your expectations raise a little bit, you know, and you would do expect that to be this guy that's going to take over for Tony Romo. Clearly you would like Dak Prescott to evolve into a great quarterback. Yeah, but it's far less of a missopportunity if he doesn't. At one thirty five, okay, reset the board here and go available. Here we go. Let's go to the Redskins real quick as we could. And in two thousand and sixty NFL Draft, washing Arrist Matt defensive end. Okay, Matt Ianitis goes from the Temple University, makes a not a too far of a trip for him from Philadelphia. I'd watching DC. He really helped himself the Senior Bowl. Yeah, he did. He looked a lot better, and I thought he did on film. The lockers had a tough time when she did so. I thought he really made some money. But all right, going back to the best available right now to me. Top guy on my boars, Rochard Higgins, wide receiver from Colorado State, right, Jeremy cash Is number two, right, Duke's safety, Kenstrell Brothers, Missouri linebacker, number three, Christian Westerman fourth, the guard from Arizona Studio, and Jalen Mills at number five, the LSU defensive back. I think the Temple Owls have had more guys picked than the LSU. We'll make that up one day next year like the Ohio State Buckeyes. Yeah, okay, Kit Garrison tells us we got a couple of calls. Wait, Force Kent, what do you got Yep, go ahead, Ryan in South Carolina. Hey, guys, my question has to do with the Jalen Smith pick. Um. I was wanting to know how that kind of pick effects or what it tells us about the job security of the head coach that's involves. And do you think that Jason Garrett had any reservations whatsoever about the pick being made? Thank you and have a great day. It's a fantastic question, and we kind of brought that up last night. Is uh. You know, it's not out of the Roman possibility that if Jalen Smith doesn't play until twenty seventeen, he's playing for a new coaching staff. I mean, you always have to consider, always have to consider that, and I think probably in the back of Jason Garrett's mind and the coaching staff's mind, you have that possibility sitting there. But I don't think that's the way these guys are well, no, and that's not the way football players are wired. It's not. He's got what three more years on a contract, didn't he fo Yeah, yeah, extension. Yeah. And and like we've said, we said at the top of that security for him as far as financially sure, but as far as being the head coach, there's no guarantee. But we sat at the top of this broadcast that this is a team that is acting as though they are close to being a tender. Yeah, that's that's Or is anybody really sitting in there thinking, hey, uh, we might not ever coach this guy. Yeah, sure, I think they would if you asked them, they would acknowledge that that is a reality of the league that they work in. Yeah, but that's not the way they're wired. I think they think that they're going to be a good team, the same way Jalen Smith is not wired to think, well, maybe I won't ever play again. He's he said he will absolutely play. He'll be great, ye, all that good type of stuff. And I hope I'm wrong about that one. Yeah, me too. Um, all right, can't you get another No? I don't think. I don't think that that weighs heavily on the mind of Jason Garrett. I think he probably acknowledges it as a possibility, but that's just not the way these competitive types are wired. Okay, can't we go across the world now to Philip in France. Hey, hello Philip, I mean uh thing. I have to say that I love your shows, Thank you. I just I just think they should less longer than just one hour. Thank you. Another thing, Brian, if you ever think to write your memories as a scout or with a part teaching, uh association with that being the ignorant that I am to how to scout players, you can be sure I'm going to be the first one to get your book. Thank you very much, very kind of you. Yeah, I've got one thing too for David to uh you said the earlier on the Draft show that it would drop on the drag on the table if the selection was Zeke kill yot, and I didn't so him do it by Thursday night. You're you're all right? I did not Actually I did not actually dance. Let's take We've got a lot of equipment up here. It didn't seem like a proud Maybe you can get you to do a little jag here. Yeah, just stand up right for Zeke. All right, I am pretty pumped about Zke Elliott. So there we go. I feel like in the moment, I was so I was so worked up and like trying to focus on the draft and what was happening. Thank you for that. By the way, there we go, adrenaline kicked in. I was so focused on work. Thank you, Thank you very Okay, Okay, go ahead. What are your thoughts on the stony Brook defensive in Victor? Okay, thank you very much. I'm questioning the full back spot to Okay, what are your thoughts on not Western? Uh? Okay, this is Kansas State groans a little brou Okay, So I'm gonna hang up and listen to your takes. Thank you, thank you and all. I appreciate that. Can we just stop and appreciate the fact that a guy from France just called us and you did a little Dan. We're not talking about we're not talking about round one to talk about like Zeke, he wants to know about Victor Oche. There you go, stony Brook pass rusher, Doc, What what a beast? What a great world? When you could talk about the stony Brook Pats rush. Victor's trying to be the first player from stony Brook to ever be drafted. Yeah, and I think he's got a good chance of that happening. He's under size six one, two hundred forty five pounds. I think that fit the fit questions. That's why he's still on the board. And you know why he's not a lock draft pick. But he has really long arms for a guy with those dimensions, almost thirty four inches. Does a nice job using his lack of size, you know, staying load of the ground, extending, shooting those hands in the blockers, driving them backwards. Really productive at stony Brook thirty two and a half sacks over his career. So I do think we'll hear stony Brook be represented here the next few picks. Let me get to before you get back to the other the fullbacks. Let me recap the draft here little bit. Philadelphia was on the clock at one fifty three. They took Wendell Smallwood, the running back from West Virginia. The Cleveland Browns are now on the clock. Their picks in it one fifty four. We'll see what direction that they're gonna go in. But finish up to about the fullbacks and some of the other things. What's going on there? Yeah, Grinkowski, Uh, you know, the youngest of the Gronkowski brothers, trying to join the fullers um in terms of having four brothers in the NFL. But you know, he's if his last name wasn't Grinkowski, would we still be talking about him as a as a viable draft pick. I'm not sure. I think there's He's an okay player. Uh, nothing really stands out about him. Dan Vitally's interesting because he did a little bit of everything. He was that super back front of Rthwestern caught the ball well. Uh, you know, he lined up as a tight end, as a wing, as a slot receiver. So I think he brings a little bit more versatility there. Okay. And the Cleveland Browns, Uh take Jordan Peyton, the wide receiver from UCLA. Uh, some thoughts about him there, Dame Brugler, Yeah, six one, two oh seven an adequate athlete, not a great athlete. But Browns is the third receiver they've drafted so far. Yeah, they're kind of they're running there. They know that that roster's void of playmakers, and so they're trying to tighten too. We think the tight end from from tight ends slash halfback slash receiver. Yeah, he's a little bit of everything. Um with Peyton, he's not dynamic, He's just kind of like goes against what the Browns have been going. The Browns have been drafting traits and spark scores and high you know, the testing numbers. R. Peyton's not that guy. He didn't test off the charts, doesn't have that explosiveness. But I think this is the guy that scouts really like a player's productive. He had over eleven hundred yards as a senior. Uh, I know, I think you liked him a little more than I did. Yeah, I sure did. I sure did. And so yeah, I make sure you check out Kevin Turner's most recent tweet. I think it's just for you. I'm giddingness, Hey, it looks like that we're gonna be able to in the coming moments here. We're gonna have a Leon Lett defensive line coach come in and talk about the two. Well, yeah, we got well we have Malite Collins. Leon coaches defensive tackles, right, but Lee Collins and also added Charles Stepper today. Yeah, yeah, so it sounds like that they're guys. Are guys here are working on getting that real quick. If we've got a minute to go back to fullbacks. Yeah, maybe we can talk about this later if we don't have time, But that that's interesting to me. I mean, uh, Tyler Klutz is not back with this team. The Cowboys love to sign a guy in college free agency. I'm positive they'll go to training camp with a fullback or two. But where do you I mean, Zeke kind of makes that interesting because they've got four primary running backs right now, four guys that you assume they probably don't want to cut. So what do you think is more likely that this team rolls without a fullback or that a running back that is currently employed here won't be I think that they feel comfortable because of the special team stuff I think with you know, if they do that, well, well, but I mean, well, they haven't resigned him now, maybe they could, Maybe they could. That's what I'm That's what I'm trying to say. I mean, so, what you're going to carry a fullback and four running backs? Well, if one of those running backs is a pup guy, and that's I think that's unkind. Yeah, that's that's the question. That's the that's the question that you have to think about right now. If Dunbar is not a pup guy. Do you think they would they carried four court they carried four last year. An Actually I think they did. They sure did, And I think that's because kluts can do things on specialty. That's that's the that's the really the only reason that they could you carrot Could you use James Hannah as basically? I mean he's played hvac. Yeah, but every time they've ever put when those tight ends at the full back spot, it doesn't work, doesn't really It just no, it really doesn't mean Hannah is an edge block. Hannah's a quarter of attack on the line motions and stuff too. Yeah, but he's better at when he can hook guys and get position and all that stuff like that. So Bills are making the selection here, Uh, interested to see. I'm always interested in picks and what guys are going to be fifty five. The Colts took a Hague, the Joe Hague, the offensive tackle from North Dakota State. So North Dakota State with two draftable players this year. They had, of course Carson Wentz and then the offensive tackle here. Now Joe Hague goes to the Colts. The Buffalo Bills are did you think Jonathan Williams. Okay, Arkansas running back Jonathan Williams. So I tried. I had Arkansas fans arguing with me how Alex Collins is by far a superior running back and here, well I had him better. Jonathan Williams with a bum foot, just went ahead of Alex Collins in the fifth round. So I really like Williams if if not for the foot injury. We're talking about him as as a top one hundred player, one of the top three backs in his class. So I think the Bill's got to steal here as long as that foot holds up. Yeah, and you're right, as long as that that foot does. Foot injuries always worry me with backs, There's plenty to be concerned about, but again a big if if he's able to stay healthy. I love the pick. I'm gonna think of YouTube for the rest of their careers when I see Jonathan Williams and Alex Collins, I mean, whether it's good or bad. I'm gonna remember this debate because it's one of the long like I typically remember a show we did an Indie during the combine where y'all were about to grab each other by the throat over Alex Collins and Jonathan Williams. We were that bad. It was pretty heated. It was it pretty heated. It was about as heated as you tube get, which is to say, very friendly banter. But I can pretend that you were about to fight if I want to interesting that he has to remember about you and I going at each other with that. That way, the biggest thing with Collins that worries means the fumbles. Uh. He just I don't know, there's nothing that separates him. I want difference making trades, guys that whether you know, and make guys miss uh, you know, guys that can power over you. The vision Alice Collins is everything okay, just nothing great. And so he's not got to wait long. I anticipate him coming off the board here pretty quickly. But I'm glad to see Jonathan Williams come off the board here. Yeah, and so yeah, I was kind of hopeful that Collins would have gone first, so that way I could have a one up on you. But I guess he all right, Well, it looks like that we are joined here. Coach Leon uh a man who comes in here and and he's uh, I'm sure the big cat is uh a big guy. So he's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna fight for his players. And so yeah, all these guys all of a sudden. You know, you don't many times the coaches get to have picks. But my man here has got two pretty good stretch for the D line rooms. Coach Lean, let thanks so much for joining us. Uh, all right, talk about it. We got MALIEK. Collins here third round selection and then Charles Tapper as well. Some of the things you saw on both the players. All right, thanks for having me first problem, I appreciate you. M Malik. First of all, I got a chance to work out both of the guys, Malik and Charles m But I got um Charles first, right, went up to Oklahoma first and uh man Um. I was impressed just by his movement. Right, he has the traits that we like. Uh. You know, he played in more of a three four style defense. Um, but you can see the vision for him as a as an edge Russia, right and a guy that can move stunts and right. We like his his ability. Yeah, with with with with Charles a little bit though with with uh you talk about the scheme and stuff more of a three fourt but if you watch him a tape was was there we saw maybe not react as quickly. Is that more of a scheme? Was there? Some scheme things I mean with him? And now you feel like that, well you do see some of that that quickness with him. Yeah. You so you can see the movement right off the bad um. Like you said, you don't know how how they were coached and right what their eyes were trained, rights for what they were keying and uh out that I got up and to Oklahoma and visited with him. We watched film man Um. He kind of explained to me, Yeah, some of the technique and you know they were kind of watching the back and yeah, defense right. It kind of slowed him down a little bit, but you can see that he has instincts. He does have football these teams. What about with Collins, you know, I mean again it looked like watching him on that Nebraska put him on that shoulder, let him go more of a three technique kind of a player for you in this year. Yeah, I think that's the vision that we have for him. He fits well as a what we call the undertackle position, and uh, he'll be a guy that can penetrate U can do a good job of rapping on our games and our stunts, and uh, I mean he has a past rush ability as well, so he's like that was one of the good things you saw him in Nebraska was those twist games and stuff like that. Man he could get so he could get it up the field. Jason Garrett actually talked to the media last night after after last night was over. He mentioned, you know, defensive end gets so much credit as kind of the visible, flashy pass rush position. But how do you guys feel I assume the answer has to be excited, But the amount of resources y'all have at tackle now with Collins obviously, Tyron Crawford's there, and y'all signed Cedric Thornton, how do you feel about that interior pass rush right now? I think we feel real good about it. I do, Coach Marinelli does as well, and we also have we have Malite Collins now, Tyron Crawford, you mentioned Cedric Thornton and also Terrell McClain. Sure, right, So you know, I feel real good about those four guys being in a rotational ski team and our system, it demands hard work and uh, down in and down out, so you need to kind of have some guys to rotate and keep him fresh. You mentioned, um Tapper played a different scheme in college than than what you guys run here. I'm interested to know. And obviously you guys watch tape on all these guys, you visit with them. It's an exhaustive process, clearly, But at what point, and I guess it's maybe visiting with him, at what point do you kind of get a feel for Okay, I can project this guy to what we do. I think this guy works for what we want. I think for Charles, you know, you see a guy that he's six two, Um he's two seventy, played at two seventy at times he might play a little bit heavier, but you see him playing down as a four eye what we call a four which is inside the tackle, and sometimes as you know, as a three technique. Um so you can see him mix it up with the bigger guys and um so he I thought he did a really good job on his movement when they did move and um you know that you ask him to line up inside the tackle and then pop outside and get a pass rush, and uh, you know, he showed that the movement the traits that we like and so you can project that you can see, Um, he can bend them. He has quickness, and he also has long speed. You know, you see him pursuits and so you see his range. There's a lot to laugh about that not necessarily pertaining to either of these two guys, but I'm just really curious. It's an interesting perspective for you. You're part of this draft process on the coaching side for the Cowboys now, but you were also a seventh round draft pick yourself. What I guess, what's that light getting to be on both sides of this process? And is it kind of surreal helping pick a guy for a team after you've been a player and been a draft pick yourself. Yeah, it is. And the experience of going on on the road and um, you know, talking to the guy, having the guy set up to dinner, and yeah, I mean just the whole thing of seeing if he can handle all of all of these things out. You know, that is a good experience as a coach, you know, as and as an evaluator. You know, when I think about it coming up as a player and I talk to these guys I've called some of the guys that got drafted yesterday just to give them a worse of encouragement. Hey, relaxing, It's going to happen. And when you get the opportunity, you know, you got to go in with you know, I would say focused and really with the blinders on, just saying, hey, I gotta take care of me and I'm going in and it doesn't matter where I got drafted. You know, some guys get caught up into you know I got drafted or I didn't get drafted. I say, hey, you got to get a chance to show up at a NFL practice field and in an NFL locker room. You gotta take advantage of it no matter where you get. We know, we know you like to rotate a lot, and you know, keep these guys fresh. Do you anticipate Collins and Tapper being able to contribute very early from day one? Yes? We do. Mean I think you get you pick those guys at those places in the draft, you expect from to come in and be a part of a rotational and that's kind of what our scheme is, a rotational system. I mean, like I said, we are demanded on our guys to turn and run and turn and springing, you know, get up feeling. So you know, the rotation is big, you know. Yeah, Well I wonder, I wonder just before you get out of here, kat, I want to ask you about last year with with Russell, you know, with Ryan Russell and where and where where he's added in your thoughts there and then also to the adding of Benson mail walk you know where you see a couple of guys again. The tape from the Raiders looked out standing on Benson and what he was able to do. But talk about really where Russell is right now in the in your thought process here as well. Um, you know Ryan, he had his rookie year and um, you know, fifth round pick, and he showed some improvements right as he got adjusted to the speed of the game. And I think we're looking for big things for Ryan. The expectations are high, and the expectation for himself it's high. Right. He text me in a month ago as you said, Hey, I'm preparing. I'm sure you're ready to go, and I'm looking forward to that to having a great season. And and that's the start. You know, he's he's focused on it. Benson. Man, we've had a businesson h he was at Seattle right and you can see the flashes and he's just continued to grow as a player. So we are really excited about both of those guys. Well, Favery Kid, Well, well, leon Let, thank you so much for joining us. Always appreciate your insight. Uh, they do. They rotate a lot of guys, see a lot of guys playing, and the big Cats one of the reasons why they get the production they do. So thanks Agi for joining us. Appreciate them, appreciate thank you guys. All Right, so let's leon Let the defensive line coach here with the Dallas Cowboys. He was instrumental in uh going out and working out a couple of guys here in a couple of draft picks, uh with MALIEK. Collins from Nebraska Charles Tapper from Oklahoma. I like what he was saying about the Oklahoma thing. You know they figured it out though, that that scheme kills those kids. I mean, I'm sorry if you're an Oklahoma fan out there, but uh, defensive Raiders, well, you look at some of the guys, it doesn't do a many favors. And they're a program. They're a great program. They're a great program, and so you know, we'll see Phillip Jones is coming in here right now. Well, Bill Jones could come in here and talk to me if he wants to do that. So anyway, no, I love Bill Jones. Okay, let's go back where we're at. Pick one fifty nine is where we're at. We'll go back and hit some picks. We talked about. Joe hag at one fifty five with to the Colts pick one fifty six. Jonathan Williams running back Dame Bruger really likes this pick. He goes to the Buffalo Bills at one fifty seven. Lashawn Simms, the defensive back from Southern Utah, goes to Tennessee Brandon Shell at one fifty eight. The offensive tackle from South Carolina is a New York Jet. And we are waiting for the Houston Texans. Who is this there pick here at fifth round, one fifty nine, and we will we'll see that here in a second. Though. Just some thoughts, Dave, from what you heard and maybe not so much from the rookie guys, you know, from Russell from Benson, Mayowa, rotational all that stuff. How do you feel, I mean, it's this is and people can people can call me a Homer if they want to, I guess, but I kind of. I was thinking about this last night. Is there's a lot of angst among Cowboys fans about the pass rush right now. Yeah, and it mainly stems from Randy Gregory and DeMarcus Lawrence. She's been available for four games. That's certainly not encouraging. Yeah, but you look at it. They've put a lot of resources into this defensive line over the last few years. I mean, going all the way back to Tyrone Crawford, who was eighty one overall in twenty twelve, who signed a contract extension. They just gave Cedric Thornton twenty million. They gave Benson Mayowa a pretty decent contract for a guy with his experience. And then you talk about Lawrence at thirty four, Gregory at sixty, MALIEK. Collins at sixty seven, and now Charles Tapper at one oh one. Yeah, and I mean there and well, I'll even throw Ryan Russell in. There's fifth round pick last year. I don't remember the number off the top of my head, but they have put a lot of talent into that rotation, and it's it's interesting to me. We don't look at it as a strength right now, because we haven't seen it. Randy Gregory doesn't have a career sack. Lawrence appears to be trading in the right direction. You hope he's right about Ryan Russell. Sure, I mean that's the great that's the great mystery, right there. No offense to Ryan Russell. Yeah, I hope he's right about Benson Mayowa. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm with you. If if it's a better chance of being right about Benson Mayowa than there is Ryan Russell, Mayo is what the Cowboys think he is, then this could be a coup, honestly, and I don't know if that's going to happen. I'm trying to look at it as objectively as possible and say, this is a guy with two career sacks, who's played a limited role everywhere that he's been. But you just heard Leon. Let's say they've had an eye on him since he was in Seattle, which was two to three years ago, Yeah, a while ago. Yeah, if they've been that interested in this guy, yeah, they have a fantastic projection of what he could become, and they've got a great set of coaches to bring that out of him. Right, If he becomes something special that's going to be looked at as like this just genius steal of a move. And obviously, you know you hope Randy Gregory and too Marcus Lawrence can meet their potential when they get back from their suspension. So I guess, in a roundabout way, there goes your pet cat, Brian Kentrell Brothers to Mike Zimmer, Minnesota is having a great draft. Yeah, I think well before the pick before that detections at one fifty nine took kJ Dillon s Yeah, safety from am I right from West Virginia with Karl Joseph. Yeah. So in a in a long winded way, I guess what I was trying to say is a you can't knock him for trying. They are certainly putting effort into turning that pass rush into something. It hasn't yielded results yet, but if things follow their designs, it's certainly doable. I mean it's a big if. It is a big big if. Doubt, especially with Randy Gregory. Honestly, I I think I buy that DeMarcus Lawrence isn't gonna let him let this sidetrack him. I mean, Orlando Scandrick had the same. Let's be honest. Though he could fail again. He could. I mean, it's his twelve games and he could, he could have a relapse. They felt like they had him under control. You're talking about Gregory right now. I'm sorry, I'm talking abou Lawrence. Okay, I'm sorry. I feel yeah, I feel confident that this can be a one time deal for Lawrence. I don't have a problem believing that Gregory is the one that scares me. He should, he should, But I mean, just as easily as he could be out of the league, he could blossom into the guy that they would hope. So I it's it's fascinating and there's really nothing to do but wait and see Minnesota at five when sixty took Kendrill Brothers. Tell everybody how great of a player this guy is. If you want a guy that's big and fast, it's not for you. But if you want a guy that's very instinctive and shows up at the spot before the blocker or the ball carrier, that's Kentroll Brothers. Uh. He's just a very aware player. He understands what the offense is trying to do. Three year starter, a Week's head linebacker led the sec in tackles. He ran a four eight nine at the combine and that's not good for a linebacker. So that's what's caused him to fall. He doesn't have those uh that above average athleticism that you want, but dude, as a competitor, the instincts are off the charts tackling machine. Yeah, I think he could play three four or four three inside. Mike Zimmer will find a spot for him, you know, And they the Vikings have done a nice job. And then think about Mike. Mike would always struggle. Mike struggled in the draft room. But Mike the last several years, the two years so now its third year being a coach, they've done a much better job of drafting. Give Rick Spielman those guys a lot of credit. It was right that the Vikings are her having. I think they're killing a great Lakwan treadwill in the first, my top receiver, McKenzie, Alexander in the second, my top corner, and then Kentroll Brothers here in the fifth. I skipped it for Willie Beavers because yeah, yeah, in round five to get Kentroll Brothers. At this point, add another body to the linebacker mix an outstanding pick and then another team he's having a I think a heck of a draft is Cincinnati. They're on the they're making their pick right now. We'll see who who they add to their haul. But you look at Cincinnati William Jackson in the first round, Tyler Boyd in the second, Nick Vigil and then Andrew Billings in the fourth. Yeah, those are four really good players, an he all four can start in this league. So I like what the Bengals are doing. And then here in the fifth I pick one sixty one they go with I'm thinking they're gonna probably uh, who's our best bellable player on the board. You talked about Higgins. Higgins. Westerman was a guy that we talked about in cash who was a guy again a coach driven personal Christian Westerman right there, goes all right, that's five guys right there. I think it's starting to and that's a coach driven department right there. I've said it a bunch. Kit. You got a phone call for me, Yeah, Denny in hawaiiha um, you know when every will um with Leona coming and I wanted to say that, you know, with you know here coming from a small pretty much small school and all that. Uh. Um, you know, whenever I hear like country Strong with with Dane Bruger with Drew Live, Yeah, is he falling because of his um his arm or the surgery on his arm or you know he can we can we probably snatch him up. And then also, um, and I'm you know, Bryan Smith was my last corner that I was really looking at. Um any cornerback still yet on the board that we could take in the sixth round. Yeah, thank you, Danny appreciate that. Yeah, Drew, Yeah, yeah, he wears it. He wears elbow. When you watch him play, he wears a J J. Watt device on his arm. Looks like a Transformer. Yeah, with all that, uh the body armor on him. And then you know, I think you talk about the knee injury and the elbow. That's a big reason why he's falling. The chance that he really wasn't able to work out for teams because of the injury, because of his situation trying to go back to Iowa, that was denied. But if talking about the top corners on the board, Jalen Mills from LSU, Now again he has some baggage, but I think He's the best pure talent that's available. Harlan Miller from Southeastern Louisiana. Maurice Kennedy, I know a guy you like that? The senior? Sure? Did I still have? I had been fourth round. I've got some fourth I got some third round corners, and I've got some fourth round corners available right here. I'm interested to see when this group's gonna start coming off the board. I'm gonna say, just take a cursory look. I mean, what looks like the best value to you right now? The wide receiver with Dane's talking about is Higgins, Higgins, Lawler. You know that type of group that brown Seymour. Cash is another guy. I think what we're seeing with Cash right now is he is so scheme specific. Yeah, he needs you know that Dion Buchanan Roll when Arizona took him in the first round, everyone was shocked, but they believed in that role and what he could do. And Jeremy Cash needs a team to believe in that role and what he can do because he's just a specialized player, because he's not going to be a player you want in reverse or in coverage on a constant basis. You want him moving forward, playing versa the run, and he can do it, but he needs a team to believe in him, and so far we're not to that point. Yeah. Here, Uh, I'm looking at this, uh at the going forward here, Dallas, let's see, got a ways to go. Yeah, I gotta come back. I got a ways to go. I mean yeah seven. Yeah. I was trying to think maybe some guys early in that that that sixth round is uh, they lost the pick to San Francisco there early Uh, I think the early six If I write about that, I'm maybe I'm messing up a h Dallas. San Francisco got a pick from Dallas at one seventy eight in the six so yeah, they got the next time Dallas will pick would be at one eighty nine, a pick that they got at Oakland. So Denny's got a lot of a lot of waiting and hoping for it. Maybe a cornerback to um to to get to him there podium another pick. Yeah. Uh this Air Force base out in Missouri. Huh. Yeah, they've they've done it up big here. It looks like the Chiefs are going to announce this pick. Um. We'll see exactly who Andy Reid and John Dorsey. Select. If I go back to my days of being with Packer guys, Dorsey and Reid both always took a quarterback at some point in time, and they lost. They lost Chase Daniel lost Chase Daniel. So maybe they're looking for, said Brandon Allen's fits what they want to do. UM's talk about the quarter Kevin Hogan. Maybegan Hogan's on the board. I mean, that's that's something yet. I mean, but the Packer way was always to take a quarterback at some point in time. But you're right, replaced Chase Daniel with with a with a quarterback that villain Hogan dresscal the top three quarterbacks on my board. Well, let's see who they take. Kevin Hogan. There we go. So solid pick. I don't think he's ever gonna start in this league, but or you know, consistently, but as a number two or a guy that can be a spot starter, right, I think it's a solid pick. Yeah. The measurables clearly are there. Six three two hund eighteen pounds. I'd say this though, when you watch him now, everything underneath the intermediate stuff, I mean, he could kind of touch that stuff around. I don't think he has a huge arm by any meets, But when you watch him throw the ball down the field, it's almost like he's strolling with the javelins he has. He has to wind it up to get it there. He's gotta put like it takes like four steps and he's gotta put his whole body. Look at that he's jumping. I mean both feet are coming off the field when he makes these throws. But you know, again, fifth round, we're talking about quarterbacks that with the guys that are still potentially on the board. He was. He was one of Brandon Allen driscoll. Uh. Dave talked about had a lot of love for Cardinal Jones. Cardel Hey, Cardinal Jones makes that throw, the javelin throw, He does that with his wrist, He just flicks it. Well, I think Dave's right about it. If this guy's a winner though, I mean, he played a pro style scheme and and and you know Dave Shaw, who's the head coach at Stanford, man he be this player is tough guy. Yeah, he's so tough mentally and physically. Uh, you know, there's something to be said about guys that will their team to victories. Yes, I know, Christian McCaffrey is a big part of Stanford success last year. But what he brought to that quarterback position, what he could do, I think that will translate to the NFL. Okay, so it Uh, the Kansas City Chiefs take Kevin Hogan. That means the Green Bay Packers are now on the cloud. Just drive to Trevor Davis ahead, Okay, any Lawler there we go. Trevor Davis, I warned you about this. Yeah, you can warn you. This could happen. Trevor David. The special teams. I think that's what gives him the edge over Lawler. Here. Uh what Trevor Davis brings on special teams as a return man. Uh, very interesting pick here for Green Bay. Yeah, and again Lawler being on the board, Higgins on the board, still listed be on the board. You know that's uh. I have Higgins and I have Higgins in the third round, Lawler, Lawler's gonna make Lawler's gonna go somewhere. I compared him to the player the former cow player that's out with the Chargers right now, Bruin and Keenan Allen. He might not be able to run it as fast as like Keenan. I mean Keena's not fast. But this Lawler kid, you watch, there's plenty of bad ball catch And I'm not saying that Golf through everything bad, but there are several times where he has to make adjusting catches like somebody's gonna somebody's gonna take Golf knew that, I mean golf, knew that he could throw it. He doesn't have to be pinpoint accurate. He knew he could throw it a little bit farther away from the defender, and that Lawler would go get it. The biggest thing with Lawlers. While he makes some ridiculous catches, the best you've ever seen, he'll he'll drop some of your d drops, some easy one he drop. I'm very surprised he's still on the board at this point. H Trevor Davis again one of only twenty players ever in FBS history to have two kick returns for touchdowns on the same game. So again, that special team a big reason why I think he's off the board ahead of Lawlor. Okay, so now the pick at one sixty four is belongs to the Philadelphia Eagles. This is a selection that they got from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Um let's Philadelphia we've we've talked about what how do we feel about their offensive line? There was some you know, some questions about really better about it today than I did yesterday. I mean yeah, I like that Somalo kid. Yeah, and I mean I know they have, um Jason Kelsey, maybe some depth problems there, a little bit with you know, I mean maybe this. Uh, do you have anybody in mine? I mean we've we've we've talked about with Green, Alexander uh Tiatulo Tiatula. The Arkansas guy was ala, I'm sorry I should have used my pronunciation. Guy. Actually, it's sitting right in front of it, sitting right in front of me. Uh. The Kyle Murphy was a guy that we we kind of targeted a little bit on some on some stuff. Uh. Any. I just can't always feel like, at this point in time, you look for a value pick at an offensive line spot. Hey, I mean they just brought I mean, Lane Johnson's gonna be around there for a while. Yeah. They signed to Amalu behind Kelsey. I guess. I mean Peters is the big variable there. He's getting up there. He's no spring chicken. It was the tackle from TCU that I can't pronounce his name. That's a long name. Ain't say big v this samoan? Yes, go ahead, yeah, go ahead. I can't pronounce it, Come on, can't. I went I'm looking at I'm looking at a really long first name and a really short last. Okay, it's Halla, Hallapouli, Vonti va Ti that say that right? It's down there to the bed Halla Poli Okay, Halla Pooli. But wait, hollow say it? You put both you put them both on here, you put vat and Viti. It's both names. It's his full name. It's his full name of his first name. Yeah, oh my god, that's foot. I don't Cowboys, please don't draft him. I don't need to be writing that over and over. He's known as big. That doesn't make sense. Yeah, Bill big Va. But we're talking about offensive lineman. I thought you had two different pronunciations. No, No, that's his whole name. But anyway, yeah, but Philadelphia, uh were where's some value though on this board? Uh? For we've talked about the receiver, we've talked about, talked about Richard Higgins, talk about specific a couple of other defense mana cavige. I mean, this is Philadelphia could they take, could they take a good spot? Can they take a Temple player at Manda Cavidge, you know the linebacker Philly guy. So yeah, just keep drafting the Temple out. How crazy is that? Well, the picks in, let's see for the Eagles, it's pick five, one sixty four and uh, we're we're kind of patiently wait talking about everybody's favorite German receiver on the TV. Yeah, did you have an idea about the German receiver? Did you see anything on him? I mean this, I don't like we're showing clips right here. It means nothing because he's he's playing against me, He's spending against me outside. I'm not even you. He's playing eighth graders. I mean, these guys are these guys would not play a Division three ye college football. Yeah. Um, and so it's hard to the tape means nothing. It's all about the measurables. And a guy tested off the charts really the height, weight, speed. So I won't shock me at all if this guy gets drafted. Yeah. Well that that that Uh, well, we'll see if it, in fact, that is a case Eagle selection is in. Uh, let's see if they run it across the crawl. Uh, and see where we're at with all that we've we've talked about potentially offensive line here, receiver, Uh, you know, just the players that were mentioned right now. You're trying to find guys here in the fifth round with some traits and and uh, we'll see if in fact who they select. The Cowboys don't have a pick until one eighty nine, where it pick one sixty five. So long, wait, they got the quarterback that they wanted. It seems like that it Oh yeah, Dak Prescott mean today has been arguably their best day so far. I think, I mean, I love the Zeke pick. But well, we'll see what happens. Either drafted an All Pro player in Jalen Smith, or it goes into the long line of Cowboys second round picks that never play. We'll see, given their history over the last decade. And you and he, it was it was documented, it was well documented that oh here's here's the pick. There he is who was drafted Brian, Uh, this would be oh pul vt Viti vt Ytai. And I'm sure there's some folks out there at TCU Land that are just totally upset with what the way, but uh, yes, he is now a philadel Alf Eagles, So we get I get to evaluate that, uh, get to evaluate that that uh player down there and at TCU, he played at both the left and right sides. Um, he does a nice job of kind of just getting in the way. A wide bodied guy. Not might not be an overpowering player, but he keeps defenders busy. And I think that's the name of the game is to get is to block these defenders. And might not always look pretty with Big V, but he gets a job done more times than not. Yeah, I kind of saw a little bit of slow footed guys, a little bit worried about that kind of he has a wide base, real wide basse, real wide base for him. So okay, so Big V is uh. I say, I apologize to all the TCU folk out there. Sorry, and uh, but the guy played in our city. You think we could learning of TCU, Yes, Philip, I believe from France who we spoke with earlier. Yes, TCU, listen to me. Is still on the board. Do you think it's gonna last too? Yeah? Our next pick? Yeah. Kid. By the way, you have some Twitter questions in there that people a couple of oh it's a pick Kansas City. Though, Tyreek Hill, the widest fascinating pick, right, Yeah, Tyreek Hill, the wide receiver from West Alabama, is now part of the KANCI Chiefs pick five. Oklahoma State fans know all about Tyreek Hill. This dude is fast. He was kicked off the team for domestic incident, pretty ugly stuff, and so you know he he kind of was kicked out of the Oklahoma State program. Tried to at one point go to Akron. That didn't work out. Uh so you wind it up at West Alabama and you know, is he a running back as a receiver. He's an athlete. The guy can fly, and so I mean very interested that they took a chance on him at this point. The character stuff, the baggage is a very heavy baggage is very heavy. I get. Well. I mean, you saw the Seahawks take your boy Frank Clark last year and right second third, I believe it was the second round pick, yeah, second, that's right. Yeah, So obviously teams are still willing to take a chance on that guy for the talent. And I mean it's pick one sixty five. But with all of the emphasis and talk about domestic violence in the NFL, these days. It's always fascinating to me when a team is willing to pull that trigger despite all the baggage that comes with that. Okay, Tyreek Hill at five one sixty five West Alabama transfer from Oklahoma State. He is a Kansas City chief. John Dorsey and them made that selection where it pick five one sixty six that belongs to the Houston Texans. The pick is in for the Texans. Uh, could go a bunch of different I think the Texans have done a pretty nice job drafted. We've talked about the offensive talent they've added. Rock Osweiler's gonna be the happiest guy in Houston. Three fourth scheme with the Texans, Zoe and what they do. DJ Reader the defensive tacos se your bull guy, man, he is a load inside. Dan like that and Vince will Folk is getting a little old, you know. DJ Reader could be that that nose tackle in the waiting now for Houston. Great pick here in the fifth round. I think based on just his ability and his talent, you're talking about a third round player. Uh, you know, some accountability to issues there as well. Um, you know there were some issues at beginning of the season. He took a leave of absence from the team. But when he was on the field, UH watched watching against Alabama. Yeah, the way he can stack the point of attack, Uh two gap. I mean he's a true true nose guard, a guy that can, you know, clog things up and also make plays on the ball. So DJ reader goes to the Houston Texans. Dane uh painted a very nice picture of what he potentially can do in that three four scheme. Uh down there with the Texans is now puts Arizona on the clocket. Pick five one six D seven, Uh Kent, I was gonna go to you some for some Twitter questions. Go ahead and hit me on a couple them, if you will. This one's from Zeke two k rushing yards there we go some handle yep. If it were you, what would you address in the next round. Cornerback, linebacker or receiver? Well, I think, yeah, I think that you know, the situation at cornerback. They've got some young guys they like Dave, Yeah they do. They do have some young guys that they do like, sure, but they they've also though, uh, you know that the wide receiver part of it, though, uh is a it could be a big part of it as well. I mean, we we talked about, uh listen, be In what he potentially could do, be a guy that to down the field type of a player. For some reason, I'm I'm not as focused on wide receiver as I think a lot of people are. And that's I mean. I know Terence Williams entering a contract year, right, I know that they had their struggles with as Bryan out last year. Um, but if it's me, I think it's got to be a defensive back. And honestly, I'm getting it's still they got a waste to go. There's still twenty two picks until the Cowboys pick. But I like these names that I see here, whether it's Jeremy Cash yep, Um is our guy, our guy, Kennedy's still around, Cannidy is still there, our guy, another senior Bowl guy that you might remember. Oh, Nick Eatman is celebrating somewhere. Marquis Christian. Yep, he's been mocking him to the Cowboys in the sixth this whole time. He goes in the fifth. Yeah, Marquis Christian from Midwestern state. So Nick Eatman very happy about pull up Nick's Twitter feed. I bet he'll have something do you think he's going nuts right now? I bet he's I bet he'd be more pumped if he was going to be a cowboy. But yeah, Mary Christian Midwestern state but a finisher thought though about the cowboys? Well, I mean, I mean, you look at it. So Jeremy Cash still there, um Maurice Kennedy's still there. Harlan Miller is another guy that I who is still there. And again there's a ways to wait. But you see Mills as a kid. How did I forget the guy that went to my own school. He's got position flex which makes sense, could play safety or corner right played at a big time program, which they've clearly shown a pension for over the last couple of years. Um So I like the value that you see at that position a lot right now. Again, it's a ways to wait, so it's kind of hard to project, but that's where I'm going. I think that's really the last big must. Yeah, is a dB do you do you do you buy into what we maybe you know hearing in the hallways with Derek Dooley and Lissa be Oh, it wouldn't surprise me at all. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I think, listen, Be's a good bet. Who um our boy. Higgins hasn't gone, has he? No, he has not. Higgins was a visit. Yeah, exactly clearly like him. Yeah, no, you're I mean winning doubt defer to the thirty right, absolutely, no, absolutely. If if Higgins is there, listen, be's another guy. I'm trying to think if there's any am I forgetting something. Well, we talked about Lawlor was mine, but I don't know. They might. They might go for a guy with more speed. I mean they might. That might be the guys taking of Derek Dooley speaking of guys Marquez nor Marques North. But we saw markuz North and Marques North was a guy that we had on our board of right around the fifth round. I think we even mocked him to the Cowboys and the and the fifth round. So we will see if in fact that's going to be the case. This is just a little nick eatman run right here because because he's got an ass. I was not expecting that. Thank you, ken Uh you got Marquis Christian going for a while since I've been able to got Marquis Christian for Midwestern State going. And then the pick right after that to Cleveland is Spencer Drango. Spencer Drango right the Baylor guard tackle Baylor reunion going on up in Cleveland between RG three Cory Coleman and Spencer Drango. Yep, sure that's fun. Spencer Durango was a guy though. You know, a lot of people thought about him. And when I started talking about the those guys that are a little bit maybe slow footed, but but a massive guy. I mean when you look at his his measurables here, I think, let me pull him up on my h my guard originally into the tackle area, but now let me look at my guards. Yeah, spent we pulled right up there. Spencer Ango. He played left tackle at Baylor. I thought he had more hands, more hands he than punch. It was a one arm blocker a lot of the time, you know. I mean he always didn't see him get both hands in there. I didn't think he was very Smoothmaller, I say, his hands are all over place. He's one of those guys that takes his guy where he wants to go. He's not gonna sit there and drive somebody off the ball. Six five three fifteen is is what the measurables on him. I did see some power when he's punched when he did punch, but he didn't always do that. It's some trouble with his lateral slide as will I'm maybe why people think he needs to be a guard. But he turned out right there on the highlights that we're watching right there. I ain't met him in Waco at Baylor's pro day, and I mean this is easy to say. I mean, he's got a beard. That's not why I'm about to compare him Travis Frederick. Right, he reminds me of Travis Frederick. And a personality standpoint, he's he gets it. He's very m he's a friendly guy. First of all, he's just savvy. I think that probably applies to his play as well. Um. And I think, I mean, you know, if he if he becomes something up there in Cleveland, I think he'll probably be a go to guy for fans and media alike that type. So Cleveland takes Spencer Durango the guard tackle, I think he's gonna probably play guard. He's listed here in a sheet as a tackle. Uh. And then now the Detroit Lions are on the clock, and this is the last and this is the regular pick of round five. Yeah, and then and then we get into the compensatory factors. Uh, Kent, do you have another anymore Twitter questions? We can get to. This one comes from John L. Just to backtrack a bit, Okay, we know any other athletes in the past who have had the same injury as Jalen Smith? And how did they closest? Is? Uh is your guy with the as far as trying to the basketball guy, No, he's talking about the No Jalen Smith's injury. There was a guy and I think somebody in basketball had this injury. But that's not what you. Well, I was I was thinking about Lattimore. I was thinking about Lattimore running. Yeah, who came from South Carolina. It's not there. Yeah, and they and they were able never able to get him on the field. Again, I don't think they make this pick if they didn't have doctor Cooper do the surgery. I really don't feel like that that was going to be the case at all. I felt like that that Evidently he's he's felt like that, uh that he could he could do this, and uh that you know, and I and I, Hey, I trust doctor Cooper. But it's like to say, Okay, Denver Denver. Assume Detroit took Antwine Williams, a linebacker from Georgia's Southern at the five one sixty nine, and then uh, now Arizona is on the clock, and the Grand and Gilbert thank you for football tournament players. Welcome team Cardinals. Make the pick. Make the pick. With the one hundred and seventieth pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Cole Toner, a tackle from Harvard Universe. All right, coleton had has to be very happy. Coletoner is a Senior Bowl veteran. Uh and so we will uh oh yeah, I remember the Harvard Remember remember the Harvard guy. You remember the Harvard guy trying to block Noah Spence. That that that that would be something what he's probably gonna have to deal with a little bit here in the National Football League. That wasn't always the most successful thing for him. Just notes on him. I have from him lined up as a right tackle there for the Crimson a little bit quickness off the ball, feet need to be has the feet, but needs a better punch, works man the outside mire and adjust plays on his feet. Will struggle with the inside block. So if people come down inside on him. He just that means if you don't have much strength, they'd be able to handle that. He needs to get to the edge a little bit quicker sets, better sets as a game war on that was a senior ball going back and watching that. But just doesn't have the lower power and his doesn't have power in his lower body just to sit down and gets a little bit overextended and trouble when he gets doesn't get his hands inside. That means that people get into him and are able to drive him back. So cole Toner, he gets to go to the he gets to go to the Cardinals. Cardinals here, and so go back to that tweet for a second. I just, uh, And this is something that you would hear Jason Garrett and Jerry and Stephen Jones say all the time. And I don't I don't think it counts as a cop out. I think it's true. I mean, we're talking about Marcus Latimore. Obviously, Marcus Lattimore did not have an NFL career as a result of that injury. But I'm not gonna look at that as the barometer for for what I should expect from Jalen Smith. I mean, no, two people are the same. No, two players, the way that two people react to an injury are not the same. And I know it's it's not the same injury. I'm not trying to say that it is. But I'll never get over how stunned I was that Morris Claiborne made it back in time for training camp last year. After these trainers are good, I mean, and they're they're, they're, they're gonna he's gonna be it's for one year. Yeah, we saw all the all the indications is that he's gonna be with Britt Brown for a year and we'll probably see him. I'm gonna get used to seeing him on the yellow chords out there practice, get to see him. It's gonna be a lot of things so Britt Brown. But it's gonna have to do to try and bring him back. But I will go as I don't agree with Jerry Jones that I feel confident saying he's not going to play a snap in twenty six I don't think so either. And again, if he plays in twenty seventeen, they've dragged again. I said it on TV two, Seattle's pick is in Uh, this is pick one seventy one in the fifth round. But I I said, with confidence, if this is a pick that you make if you've got job security, yeah, if you feel like that, you know, and if you run your draft that way where it's like And Dame Bruley even said, there's some people that came up in the second round said well we would have taken him. Maybe there's teams that feel really, really really good about the about the surgery, yea and Alex College. Whoa, Seattle, check out Seattle. You have Seattles. You have Seattle's all their picks in front of you. By any chance, I can pull them up in an instant. Okay, thank you Internet. Seattle has drafted Germain, Effettie, Jeron Reed, CJ. Procise. They got a running back there, Nick Vanette, Reese, Odiambo Okay, offensive line, Quentin Jefferson. I like this draft a lot. Yeah. And now Alex Collins, well, Procie and Collins. So they go to wide, they go to and keep in my money back. He's coming off a broken leg. But Thomas Rawls is still there too. I mean, obviously Marshawn Lynch retired. No think Sea Mike can get it done. Hey, he's there too, yeah, he is there. You're right about that, Kent. Well, they probably think that something's going to happen to see Mike, so uh we think so. Yeah, Alex Collins Dane goes to the Seattle Seahawks at pick we're in compensatory land five one seventy one process and Colins Yeah, before that, Cole Toner goes to Arizona at five one seventy. Yeah, we got him as well. And so now we're waiting for the Cleveland Browns. Uh. Their their selection is let's see is uh they haven't shown it in but they are on the clock as we speak. As we get to uh the last let's say one, two, three, four picks. We got back to back Cleveland Brown picks here at one seventy two and then at one seventy three to carry this draft, to get us to the end that I see a Midwestern state. Sure did, sure, Christian and were and we need you into here for Midwestern state type things because you're the expert on all things Midwestern state, you and Nick Eatman. I'll be honest when when Nick Eatman told me this kid was gonna get drafted, I was like, oh, okay, Midwestern state Homer, sure thing, and there he goes in the fifth round, keeps mocking him to us. Oh yeah player, and he had a great Pro day too, round a four four. Yeah. It was very productive at Midwestern State. Ninety five tackles as a senior. He leaves as a the holds all time record for career tackles at Midwestern State with almost three hundred. Very physical player, but he's also an athlete. So I gave him a PFA grade, but I didn't feel great about it because the tape show is a very good player. Yea. All right, well we're still waiting. Here's this like, oh, Rashad Higgins, that's what that's the fifth receiver Cleveland drafted. I think, well, unless you include the Princeton kid, a tight end, so that's the fourth receiver they're they're they're trying to totally remake their obviously remake their wide receiver group. Corey Coleman, Ricardo Lewis, Seth DeValve, he's a tight end. We think Jared Jordan Payton, excuse me, Jared Payton's the running back of Walter's son. And now Richard Higgins. That's amazing, that's what you put about that, Dad, I mean I think that. Yeah, well, let me know, let me think about let me let me ask you the question. Because you guys understand numbers. I understand watching the tape, and I understand you understand watching the tape. But there's all come a point in time that these numbers choke you from maybe selecting somebody else. I mean, you know, they've got a lot of picks, but four wide receivers in this draft. Well, and what they're doing is interesting because some of these picks scream analytics and testing numbers. But then some of these other picks, say the scouts, Jordan Payton is not an explosive athlete, tested really well. Richard Higgins is not an explosive athlete, tested really well. These are scout picks, and so the Browns are mixing both of these the analytics also with scouting, so they're not just focusing on one part of the scouting process. They're using everything to add more playmakers because this team is void of the playmakers. Yeah, well that's it just seems so if the numbers are I mean, and you're right about Peyton, I mean, he's not going to be the testing guy. But man, I mean it just seems like a little bit overkill. And then now they take a cornerback Trey Calwell from a Luigiana Munroe. Uh. Any thoughts on him day? He was an undersized guy, but he's speedy. He's fast, um, and I think that's the biggest that that speed. I think he ran in the four threes at his pro day and that's really what's going to save him. Okay, but you know he's undersized, and so he's a slot only. Uh you know he might have he has a chance to be maybe a dime corner right. Uh. I didn't have him draft. I had him more as a priority free agent. But right at this point, late in fifth round, I could understand why they go that round. Yeah, Trey Cooper defensive back from Caldwell, right, Tray got call? Well, excuse me, Trey Calwell defends it back Louisiana Munroe. Uh. The now the San Francisco forty nine ers are on the clock. Uh, Dave, do you have the forty nine ers and who all they've taken? I got it right here. Please if you just refresh my DeForest Buckner Seventh Joshua Garnett out of Stanford will offensive lineman, there Will Redmond corner, Richard Robinson another corner, Ronald Blair, and John Thas. Okay, so two of their picks have been offensive lineman if I'm right, two oh lineman, a D lineman and two dbs. Okay, I just kind of kind of no, I'm sorry, two D lineman, Blair and Buckner. Yeah, so the forty nine ers pick is in and be interested to see. I like a lot of these drafts. I like this draft. I mean, you guys love Blair, everybody loves Buckner, right, that's to you add him to Eric Armstead, who's already there. Yeah, I mean, what's the team? The calls gonna go face, Well, we're probably gonna see a lot those guys that be interested to see where they all again? Where at pick one seventy four, it's a compensatory pick, it's a fifth round pick. The forty nine ers are trying to hand this card in right now and we'll see who in fact they take. Dave went through their draft. It's been I feel like a very good draft. A lot of value at sun picks. Okay, Fawn Cooper the tackle from Old Miss at the five one seventy five when Larrmy Tunsel was suspended to the first seven games of this past season. Von Cooper, who's the right tackle, moved over to left tackle. And I'll tell you what, there wasn't a huge drop off in terms of you know, left tackle was not a weak spot for that Old Miss team. Von Cooper did a nice job at left tackle. Then he kicked back the right tackle when Larrmy Tunsel returned to the lineup, and I thought he did an outstanding job at right tackle at this Shrine game. I thought he was one of the best players there. So you know, Von Cooper, I think there's an excellent pick here. Former Bowling Green Falcon transfer. Yeah, Von Cooper. What I had on him of my notes is uh, I thought he got a little top heavy at times, but need to do a little bit better job and sustained better balance on down blocks. Can you could pull this guy off balance a little bit. His hands will go to the outside lumbers a little bit in space, but when he wants to punch, he could punch, and he could he could sustain a little bit on that second level. But he gets a little trouble and his head gets down. So we'll see how faon Cooper thought he could run a little hot and cold with his technique, is what I thought about. Von Cooper goes from old miss H to H. The let's see the San Francisco four yards. So the last pick in the Competitia story, picks at one seventy five, belongs to the San Diego Chargers. We will see who, in fact they take. Is anybody on your board. You guys are really excited about here. You stepped out for a second, but I was, I mean, of all the positions the Cowboys might want to take a look at, there's a decent number of solid dbs sitting there that might fall to them. An interesting name, Scooby Wright, super productive in college, but a marginal athlete. And so oh Tavis Brown. Davis Brown. Now there's one another one, my pet cat. Yeah, yeah, we both. I really liked J. Tavis Brown. If not for the size, uh, you know, he would go a lot higher. But you know, when you're when you're that small, when you're under five eleven as a linebacker, uh, you know, thirty one inch arms, obviously theres a red flags. This guy's a missile all over the field of four or fourth speed. Uh, he is not afraid to hitch us. So he makes a ton a ton of plays when you watch him, when you watch him work, and he's and if tell you what, you watch him a coverage, Yeah, they when they reel route on him. Man, he could run up the field outstanding it doing that. I totally agree with you, Dane on the tie of a player. Just scrolling down through my notes here about brown quickness to get the outside. He could CD. He has the speed to carry his man. I told you about that. He'll could test the ball. I think the lack of link hurts him a little bits. He plays with awareness, recognition, He finds the football. He could be disruptive as a blitzer, covers some ground from the backside, a lot of positive traits. The problem is though he's a five ten six guy, he's two hundred and twenty one pounds. But you know here we are sitting here in the end of the fifth round, UH, San Diego and a three fourth scheme. You get a guy that could could maybe come in and help you a little bit as a as a maybe as a will linebacker. Yeah, and I had a chance. I talked with UH with Jatavis back in October. He did and uh, you know, did did some work on him, and he told me that he loves special teams and I think that's really where he's going to make his head and uh, you know, shine as a special team's demon as he tries to, you know, fight for snaps on defense, but special teams is where he's going to shine for San Diego. Okay, well, the Denver Broncos at this pick, now, the start the top of the sixth round. This would be pick one seventy six. The pick is in. I always expect like Goodell to come out and be like, the sixth round is started. No, no, it's rolling right. Yeah, we're just we're just gonna carry this thing right along. Teams are gonna pick off their board and first full backs, my number one fullback. There's your number one fullback right there. Talk about him then Dane. He had more tackles than Vincent Valentine, the defensive tackle that the Patriots drafted from Nebraska early on. But uh, talk about special teams with Jatavis Brown. Yeah, that's what makes Andy Janovic is such an intriguing player because he's a kamikaze on special teams. The way he's gonna fly down the field and look to take you out. Not the most dynamic athlete in terms of carrying the ball or catching the ball out of the backfield, but what he brings on special teams, that's what makes Janovich worthy of a draft pick here in the sixth round. Okay, so the first fullback does go? Uh? Is that that was your first fullback on your board, right, Dame? Yes? Okay, So Andy Janovic fullback Nebraska special teams Kamakazi. According to Dane Brugler, he goes to the Denver Broncos at pick one seventy six. It's a pick they acquired from the Cleveland Browns. So now we're into the into the sixth round at pick one seventy seven with the Los Angeles Rams on the on the clock. So moving on, Kent, do you have any any any questions on twitter thing coming up? We have a question about Dak. Did he get in some legal trouble and do you think he'll maybe face the suspension at some point from the league as far as that goes. He did. Actually, that's a fantastic point. I mean, he he did have the um d UI. Yeah, they'd probably look at that program stuff. Yeah, but you know, testing and things like that. Um an alcohol not being illegal, but I'm gonna say it made it, it doesn't It just the red flak. That's That's the whole thing. It's and I kind of mentioned that, and honestly, you know, me a Kulpa, I completely forgot about that earlier when we were talking about Dak. I mean you talk about you know, we did say something about the DUI, but you just talk about like the sterling reputation that and and I still think he does. I think that's probably a credit to him that I don't think it really knocked him that far down in terms of in terms of draft stock or anything like that. Um, I don't. I don't expect that the league would discipline him for that, do you. I don't think so either. Yeah, but it's what it's not. But it's one of those things that the league, you know, if it turns into something else, Yeah, like no, absolutely, yeah, um but shouldn't put him into like the program. It's not like it's not gonna get alcohol tested or anything like that. I mean, yeah, if he if it was, and I think the you talk about the body of work, how does Jason Garrett Love to say that I think the body of work is enough that something like that is not going to to ding him too bad. Obviously it didn't. There's enough good will there that he's built up exactly, you know, not that we're excusing what happened, but you know it's not something that's indicative of his character. It's a you know, a one time mistake that you know, again the important words there that David just used his body of work, right, and that's what he has, That's what he's built up over his career. So not something with worry And I feel bad, honestly, like I basically completely forgot that it even happened to him. Rams at one seventy seven, take another tight end. It's a Tamarick Hemmingway, Okay, from South Carolina state. This is the second South Carolina state. Yeah, but this is the second tied end that the Rams have taken. Tyler Higbee went earlier, so again trying to get help for the young quarterback there with some with a couple of different tight end. Talk about a little bit about mister Himingway if he could there's sixty five, two hundred forty five pounds, a little leaner than you want but he's a traditional played that traditional y tight end for South Carolina State. He loves the whip route. That's his favorite route, at least that's what the coaches like to call. But he's he's again a little leaner than you want. He needs to put on some more muscles, some more bulk. Not going to be a traditional you know inline guys, going to be a blocker, but as a receiver, a lot of potential here. So you know, he's a size speed athlete. You remind me a lot of Ladarius Green when he came out of Louisiana Lafayette a couple of years ago. So a little bit of a project, but uh, you know you like the receiving ability and the potential as a receiving tight end. Yeah that and sure enough though that they've gotten too with Himingway and Higbee. Uh we are now at pick uh. Let's see where it pick one seventy eight. This pick was that the forty nine ers got. Originally belonged to the Dallas Cowboys. It's it's now with the forty nine ers, but it's been shipped to Kansas City. So Kansas City is now on the clock and they will have an opportunity to pick a player here, and the pick, in fact is in. We're just waiting for it to be announced. We go back. The first fullback, Janovich Nebraska was taken at one seventy six. I know some people earlier questions on calls we're talking about, in fact with the Cowboys take a fullback, so the Dame Brugler's best fullback. It goes off the board right there. So we'll wait for it. Wait, wait for Kancy. Can't you get anything else that you want to add to the program here? Yeah, Mark wants to know. I mean, obviously Elliott, but have we drafted anyone that could possibly start for this team other than an in round one start? No, we're just building depth at this point. I guess well, and I think I mean, if you were listening when leon Lett came in here, see he couldn't start, he said, other than round one, other than round one. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Um god might if Zeke doesn't start, I'm gonna be ye, I'll do an angry dance. Um what does that look like? I'll figure it out when we catch ump around. If you were listening when when leon Lett came in here and to your point. No, probably not, at least not in twenty sixteen. But this is a defense that relies on rotation. Uh, they don't have a lot of guys who play, you know, fifty sixty seventy snaps. You're talking more about rotating in guys for twenty five to forty plays. Uh. And in that case, I think it's realistic to expect both Malik Collins and Charles Tapper to be a part of that rotation. I wouldn't well, and hey, even for that matter, with DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory being suspended for the first month of the season, I wouldn't rule it out. You need ends. I mean, you got Mayowa, and you got David Irving, and you got Jack Crawford. But you get to training camp, who the hell. Maybe Charles Tapper's a beast, maybe he fights somebody off. But even if not, I think you can expect to see both of those guys rotating in. Maybe not on the first four yeah, but I mean you think that's a realistic expect I think you're I think you're absolutly right. I think they might have been if things get a little harry, that you might even see Uh, you know, see Crawford go back out to left defensive end. It wouldn't stun me, now, yeah, with with what they have working inside, and if he does, then I would certainly expect Malie Collins to play a role. Yeah, absolutely even start. Okay, DJ White the defensive back, Uh, the safety if I'm right there? Uh, Dj, I'm sorry, Yeah, corner of George Check my bad. Too many White's in my head. Uh, talk about him a little bit. That's a pick for the Kansas City Chiefs at six one seventy eight. Talk about a player who's completely different when you ask him to press or ask him the playoff. When you ask him the press, I thought he did a nice job trusting his athleticism to mirror and stay uh you know, squared receivers. But once there was space between him and the wide receiver, I think you he had a little an awkward shuffle to him and the footwork is off, and so he struggles with some spacing issues and off coverage. I thought his junior tape was better than his senior tape. I thought that really stood out. But in terms of his instincts, I think the instincts are there, and I think that helps hide and mask some of his deficiencies in other areas. But at this point, you know, I like this pick for Kansas City. Yeah. When I saw I saw a player that didn't always play in balance, you know, And I thought he was better as a pedal when he went straight back, and I thought he got a little overpowered at times. I didn't thought he didn't always want to tackle. Ski might hurt him a little bit in the way he plays right there. But I didn't see a lot of quickness with him or much ketchups. But I think you brought that up. He plays as a boundary corner at Georgia Tech. That tells a little bit. If he played the boundary you're only using. They're using the sideline to help you there at coverage set, it might be masking a little bit of the things that he's trying to do. So this is this is pretty funny, and it's exactly the type of thing that happens when you get drafted at quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. Uh, somebody went back and found a Dak Prescott grew up a Cowboys fan. The proof is in the pudding. You got a jersey ump. No, you remember the twenty twelve loss to Robert Griffin and the Redskins that knocked him out of the playoffs. Yeah. Uh, and Tony Romo had a horrible game about it. He tweeted after Romo's last interception to lose that help lose that game, he said, I'm done taking up for Romo. Hashtag had enough. And obviously people went back and found that and oh no, hey, I I don't blame him for that at all. That better screenshot at because that's gonna be deleted here in the next it's I'm reading I'm actually reading it on on Dallas Morning News' website, so it's not going anywhere. Um, that's that's funny. I mean, I don't care. We got our first punt a putter going on. Yeah, the San Diego Chargers with pick A one to seventy nine Drewyer Kayser Drew Kayser, the punter from Texas A and M pick one seventy nine going to the San Diego Charger. So now we've had a kicker. He Brokeshane Leckler's school Ruckers there a d An Now he led the SEC in punting the two of the last three years. So this is. I think he's a starting caliber punter in the NFL. Uh. You know, he's got the size, he's an athlete. You see him on special teams. He's flying down the field, so he can move a little bit. Uh, everything you look for in a punter. I think he has the baseline traits to uh, you know, be in this league for a while. So putter goes to the to the San Diego Chargers to pick. Before that was DJ White Kent, what do you got for me? Yeah, we have some Twitter people wanting to know what picks we have left in this draft. So coming up in this round, we have one from Oakland, the fourteenth pick in this round one eight nine overall one nine. We have three compensatory picks, which are picked thirty seven, forty one, and forty two in this round in the sixth and then no seventh round picks. Yeah, so no seventh round picks and what's yeah, two twelve to sixteen and two seven. None of those three can be dealt. Yeah, absolutely one nine potentially end up and they're gonna make at least three picks. Yeah. The pick the Cowboys had that San Francisco had a pick from the Cowboys at one seventy eight, and then that pick went to Kansas City where they took DJ White. What how did San when? What was that? When did that come about? How did San Francisco get that? It was? Was trying to think it two years ago? It was like two years ago. I think it's what it was. We remember Will was dealing all those for defensive linemen. I think I'm trying to think of the part of the Swain deal wasn't was that when they traded up and might they gave away? They gave away this year's sixth to get swam in the seventh last year. That's it. That's the pick. They went to say. The reason they have reason they have a sixth right now is because Oakland gave it to him in the Butler swap. That's right, Okay, well the Viking he's wrong, Like, thanks for remembering that. I played a couple of games out so you could have you could have DJ White from Georgia Tech or Jeff Swain. Exactly right. I mean it's not that simple, not that simple, but whatever, I could probably found a player here. You like, uh, Swain's gonna be an all pro you think so? I like Jeff Swain. I mean, I've barely seen any of him, but I think he's got a good blend of athleticisms. And here's the Viking selection. Let's listen to this one, candy, if we could please. Yeah, it's not a Minutesota Vikings fan. Don't care. Make the pick with a pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Minutesota Vikings select Maritz. Wow, that is the first foreign player who's never went to college in North America to be drafted. That's too high for this guy. I'm sorry, Well, good for him. I think that earlier on the phone, if I was, I was kind of paying attention to this when Mike Mayock was on the phone with Mike Zimmer and Zimmer had called in on his cell phone, and I guess, I guess, uh, And here's here's Zimber. They're showing the war room right now in Minnesota, Mike Zimmers sitting there in the middle and laughing about about that. So, uh, it's nice that the young man is he's at they interviewed him earlier. He's there in Chicago, and so he was on set and he's now a Minnesota Vikings. Mike Zimmer gives him a wave, a lot of fun there. Mayock Mike Mayock involved. So they called Dirk the big Schnitzel. Is that a thing, seriously, the big german? Yeah? Well the kids. So I don't know, Dane, you watched the tape of this young man. He's playing against guys. It's there's a practice squad guy, right this this guy's Yeah, it's he's a guy that you you're drafting him based on measurables and the way he tested his workout numbers. Yeah, because he's big. He's six four or twenty seven pounds and he ran a legit four four. Yeah, he can move and he tracks the ball well. When you when you uh, you know, watch him during drills as a receiver. He has some natural receiving traits. He's just raw. He has no idea how to run routes, he has no idea how to set up defenders, and you know, there's just a lot he does not know at the position. Ye. Yeah, Daniel Jeremiah, we're on our screen here at Chandel Jeremiah is interviewing him here earlier, and he was talking about obviously you know, what he what he could do, how he thinks probably you know how excited he was even to be at Chicago hanging out in his draft. He didn't start playing football until about four years ago. About four years ago, he saw some clips on YouTube and thought, hey, I'm gonna try this. I'm gonna give it a shot. And he started playing on some club teams and uh, you know that that's really the extent of it. He played in a German league. But again, you watched the tape, and he's playing against guys that they're not playing D three football in America, you know, the guys that aren't very good. So got your boy, Tyrone Homes. Yeah right, well Tyrone Homes so uh, I mean on at the end of the day, it's a sixth round pick and there's no guarantee that these guys will even make the team. Yeah, but uh, that still feels high to me for a guy who's basically never played. Well there, that's that's having a little fun in the in the probably in the draft, and hopefully that this isn't supposed to be fun ban the NFL. Yeah, this is the National Football League. You're right about that, Dab, You're right. Okay, Uh, the uh, let's talk a little bit about a pick one. I kind of had all those fourth round undersized guys, did Daddy Nicholas? I had Holmes. I had all those guys that fourth round. Well, here here's Tyrone Holmes. Uh, the defensive in from Montana, and you could watch him play against North Dakota State. We saw earlier the offensive tackle that got drafted a nuisance. Yeah he if Carson Wentz wore this kid around his neck in that game, they could not block. Uh, Tyron Holmes in in this Uh So, your your imagery is fantastic. Sometimes he was basically he was basically a back. It was like a scarf every time, every time Carson Witz went back to pass, it was a scarf around his neck. So yeah, Tyren Holmes, I love the pick right here and that Jacksonville Jaguars having a great you know what it's like back in the day with Jackson White wish. I mean I was in the war Reville. Here are the Ravens. Okay, we've talked about that with the one hundred eighty second pick in the two thousand and sixty one. Yeah, the Baltimore Ravens. Slack Keenan Reynolds, Oh, Keen Reynolds siver from Navy. US. All right, Navy, there you go. That is very cool. Keenan Reynolds, he was a quarterback at NA. These are all just good will picks right here. Well, ah, he's a local straight So this guy's a productive football player, that extremely productive, no one. I mean he holds the record for FBS career touchdowns. Yeah, I mean that's you have to be pretty darn good. Now, he was in that triple option running as a quarterback, right, He's not a quarterback in the NFL. No, but they listed him as a wide receiver. But that's the question is what positions they called him. They called him it's Keenan Reynold's wide receiver Navy, so they have an idea what he needs to do. But okay, I saw him at the Shrine game. He was he worked out at the Shrine and he was lined up as a running back yea mostly, and he also did a little bit as a wide receiver, so did a little bit of both. He's going to be a hybrid version. Um. I'm just kind of shocked the Patriots didn't draft Keenan Reynolds. Yeah. Bill Belichick's dad. Yeah, and look at that man. He's got his so too. First, it reminds me of high school recruiting because you see a guy called athlete. That's basically what this is. Yeah here, yeah, um correct, I am ignorant on this subject. But like, and they're like some complications when you draft a service academy guy. Well they've relaxed the rules service. I mean it used to be, uh, it used to be five years, four years. So let's see, let's see in fact what happens. But back in the day, it was a it was a commitment. I mean, we get Bob Kurberski, we drafted a gang green and there was a commitment there and that you have to make. And if part of Keenan Rentals going to school at the Naval Academy is the taxpayers go for pay for him to go to school, right, so uh that you know, he's got a commitment that he has to make to name. Okay, now they've they've had some adjustments being the fact he's he's there. He was drafted by Baltimore Annapolis right there by Baltimore, I mean maybe something you know, they know what's going on. I don't know with Keenan Rentals. So congratulations to him, always happy when the kids that military that goes military schools do get drafted. I meant to I meant to bring this up before that happened. Can you tell me how many offensive players the Jags have drafted this weekend? None? None? Yeah, none. I'm gonna read I'm gonna read this for you again. And I like every defensive player they drafted. Jalen Ramsey, Miles, jack Yannicky, Okay, Sheldon Day and Tyron Holmes winners defensive coach. He's trying to say that down there, that to me reads like five guys who can contribute as rookies, yeah, and three who can start. Well. They drafted. I mean they've had offensive players before. I mean they got the quarterback they got, they got Hearns, they got Robinson, they sent the first Oklahoma linebacker draft. There we go. It's not Striker and it's not the mic linebacker. Uh what's his name? I'm blanking. I'm blanking too. You're looking at me like, uh hold on one second here, Alexander Dominique, Alexander, Okay, what wasn't wasn't Striker? Alexander's DeVante Bond. DeVante Bond, Yeah, DeVante Bond's at six three uh, linebacker, Tampa Bay Buccaneers make that pick DeVante Bond. You I like Devonte Bond a little bit, uh, just for his ability to the run, that ability to that again the scheme at Oklahoma. I've gone on record saying that. But you have a little bit about Bond that you want to talk about, Dane or do uh you want me to try and figure something out here? No, with Devonte Bond. We kind of touched on this with Tapp or how it's kind of late to the game. Didn't play until his junior year in high school. Same thing with Bond. He had all kind of academic issues in high school, so he was a no star recruit, spent a couple of years at the JUCO level, and then he was out of football right and then he got a chance at Oklahoma, and he wasn't a regular starter. It only has eight starts in his career the last two years as a Sooner. But when he was on the field, he made plays. They asked him to be kind of a hybrid edge rusher, so he did a lot of that dropped in space. M He's a little undersize and that's the biggest issue with me six one, two hundred thirty five pounds, A lot of almost plays. Yeah, almost made the tackle, almost showed up in coverage. So I liked the player. I gave him a six round grade. So this is where you know he should come off the board. He's gonna have to make some plays on special teams. He wants to keep a joke. I see the guy. I mean the Oklahoma linebackers. I know one thing. Those guys can run and they he really does a nice job of closing on the ball. He's always on the move. I did see a wrap up tackler. I did see a guy played with some leverage. There's times where he does miss a little bit in space, but most of the time he did get his man down on the ground. I think he's got to push as a rusher. There was some things they were doing with him as a blitzer. I could see him playing either as a Will or a Sam linebacker for somebody's schemes. So he goes to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to pick six one eighty three, and we see the Giants have taken I like that guy a lot. The Giants have taken tight end uh Jural Adams like, I like all the I like all the players that the East teams are drafting. I don't want to play these guys. You want to play these guys. Geral Adams tight end, South Carolina goes to New York Football Giants. David, did you watch him at all? Did you get to see him? I watched him on tape and I watched him at the senior talk about him a little bit if you like. I just and I mean, I think I'm gonna steal this from Dan because Dan has talked about him too, But I mean, he seems like a guy that's got a chance to be a better pro player than he ever was in college. I feel like a lot of these, a lot of college tight ends, like unless you play in the right offense, honestly, teams don't know what to do with you or don't use you the right way. And so, I mean, his stats definitely don't look like anything impressive at South Carolina, but he's a big athletic dude who can get down the field. And from the tape that I watched, he looked like he could be an adequate blocker too, Like maybe not a you know, a great one, but at least a guy that can get in the way and have that as part of his game. And now Dane can tell me how No, I want to. I want to Now, I want to. I want to hear this because I think Dave he did a really nice job of describing the player. Yeah, I and he was at the Senior Bowl. We got to watch him live and doing stuff. Thought he was one of the top five tight ends in this draft. I to me he was my number six guy. But what he is, he's a seambuster with that straight line speed. I thought he was robotic on the rest of his route tree, but as a seambuster, he could do that. He's a foreign basketball player. This guy thought he'd be in the NBA one day. Moved over to football in high school and so he's still work in progress in certain areas. But at six five two fifty thirty four and a half inch arms, I think his best football as ahead of him. Kind of along the lines of what Dave was saying. Yeah, I'll tell you what I like as far as the blocking stuff. Kind of a getting away guy, but he's got he's got some link to him, so he extends and then he turns his body. He keeps in position. I mean at the point of attack. I didn't think I didn't see a guy. Sometimes you see guys get as they're trying to block on the move, they get washed. Yeah, he can maintain some positions, some leverage right there. And I think at this point it's a cliche because of Jimmy Graham and Antonio Gates. It's a cliche to like, draft a tight end who used to play basketball and see what happens. But sixth round, pick one eighty four, he's got the trades to turn into a playmaker like that. Maybe he doesn't, but why not? Why not? I watch that pick. 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By the way, the official travel partner of the Dallas Cowboys. Come see Dave Hellman all the guys at Dallas Cowboys dot com. They'll hook you up for all that um and war room camps back and we talked about that before we went to break that the Cowboys will be on the clock. Uh, it looks like that the Miami Dolphins just turned their pick in. Let's see there, pick one eighty six we talked about Dallas is at six one eighty nine. We're not getting Jason Garrett throwing any footballs. We're not getting anybody acting like they're catching any passes. Yeah, we're not. We're not acting like we're get anybody catching any footballs. I would be interested to see though, as I look at this, can Derek dually get a receiver in here? And can they get would Lissa be be that guy that the you know, a local key that can take the top off a defense. Uh with his speed? Uh, we've um still waiting for the Dolphins here, but you know he's a guy that I know I have. I have Lawlor the third I have list of being the fourth. Uh. Maybe those are the types of guys that you would see. Um. We we talked about Cash as a guy, a safety, and but here's the Dolphins selection and uh, but your thoughts, guys, as we get close to this pick. They look very calm sitting in that room right now. Yeah, they do, and they I think they're they're uh, they're eye on a certain player and I think they have all good he'll be there. Uh talking about position? You know they just drafted uh a quarterback last pick. Where do you think they're ahead of this time? Um? I don't know. I mean, like I said, I think that I think that the to me just I think the speed. I think that, you know, adding somebody else on the outside that could Okay, Gee, Jachim Grant the uh, the wide receiver from Texas Tech goes to the Miami Dolphins at pick one eighty six. That puts the uh let's see, it puts the Washington Redskins on the clock right now, uh and US at pick one eighty seven. Uh. Yeah, I just feel like though that there just might be too much value for him right there, unless I'm missing something. Uh. Have Perkins the defensive end. Uh, David Perkins, I know southern Illinois. I mean he's a guy of a lot higher on you know, he was a transfer from Ohio State. Uh. You know they've added some defensive ends already here. I know that's a guy that probably they might not consider there. Uh the cornerback of Brown, Anthony Brown, Anthony Brown from Purdue Seymour was a guy. Uh you you brought up Mills. We talked about Mills earlier. A little surprised he's even still here, Like, is the teams know something we don't know? He had a he had a domestic violence issue in college a couple of years ago. But do you think the Cowboys could go receiver? Go with Kenny Lawler here? I think I think they might go with the guy with speed, and maybe maybe they're surprised, maybe there are surprised that uh that that that Lawler is still on the board. I mean he's more of a possession type of a guy, you know. But the guy with the speed is is listened to me. I mean maybe that's your maybe that's your your home run hitter, right listen has listened to me, has speed, But who's just a better overall receiver? Lawler is Okay, Lawler' is a better player. I want the better player. I don't really care if he's fast. I honestly don't. Dez Bryant's not that fast in the grand scheme of things. Okay, okay U and Nate's Nate Setfeld another new quarterback. And yeah, Nate Setfeld goes uh for the UH to the Washington Redskins at pick one eighty seven. The quarterback from Indiana had a Brandon Alan that's a little surprising. Yeah, that is surprising to me. Also had a drift drift school and fernand Adams. Maybe maybe they don't like the size of Brandon Allen, you know what I'm saying. Maybe that's the well Yeah, and yeah, there's a good chance they were looking for a certain type of developmental quarterback and with Sudfeld, you know that's what you have. That size he's listed or what he weighed in at a six six foot six, two hundred and thirty four pounds, right, he has an arm that he can make every throw, but the mechanics are sloppy. He has had a trouble, a tough time staying healthy that that obviously hurt him. But he had production in Indiana through forever thirty five hundred yards twenty seven two seven touchdown the interception ratio. So he has a projectable body type, projectable arm, projectable skill set here in the sixth round. That's what the Redskins are getting. Okay, Minnesota is on the clock ahead of Dallas. Dallas picking at one eighty nine, six one eighty nine. We've gone through a bunch of names. Uh, you know, a bunch of you know, listen, we have good hands, yeah, it's more vertical. It's does he have good hands? I think the hands are okay. Can he do anything besides running nine? Seriously, that's gonna do anything. But but you're in the sixth round. Can he do anything besides running nine? It's that's his best route. That's just no. We can't no, we can't do you can just not very well. Lawler can go all over the field get the ball, but give me Kenny Lawler. Okay, but I want a good player. Not okay. I'm just telling you though, rack stars. But listen, Be's got the vertical speed. I mean that's something they don't have. We always talk about that. I mean we don't we but I understand what you're saying it's pretty damn fast. I don't know, man, I don't know if he has a separation of this cat. No, yeah, listen to be I think he's a little different. Uh in terms of Lucky Whitehead. He's fast. They're gonna even let him, well he but c he ever gonna play receivers, but he but he doesn't make plays down the field like this guy. They haven't given him a chance. From my listening b report, twenty nine point seven percent of his career catches went for thirty plus yards in the air. I mean, he's a true vertical threat. That's what he did. That sounds like a bad idea in my opinion, Like, well, the way let's see if that's Jerry Jones is on the phone, we look at the war room, So Chris Halls handed this card in. Uh, that's the only part of your game. I just feel bad about. I feel bad about that working for you in the NFL players are too good. Yeah, well, we'll soon find out about who they take. That we mentioned all those cornerbacks too though, I mean and that we we we've we've talked about that that problem that they have with all those guys with the with the cornerbacks. So yeah, no, you're right. So David Morgan goes to Minnesota argue the okay, tight end, so that that uh, that uh that takes, uh, that takes now puts the Cowboys on the clock right here. So we've we've talked about you. I can hear those cornerbacks, you like, you know, those guys that are on that board. They might be on the clock, but I think they're done. Yeah. Yeah. Harlan Miller is a name talking about the top corners, Kennedy, Anthony Brown, Seymour. I mean I got anthy Brown in the third round on my on my sheet right here, So I would be interested if they're gonna go corner, go corner, and I Anthony Brown would be my top guy if they go corner. Now, I've got Lawler, I've got Brown in the third round, I got Lisa be in the fourth round. If you just if they got me convinced that Lawler should be their pick, and I feel like, that's not what's gonna happen, right, That's not what's gonna happen right here now. I guess yeah, I mean, well we'll see who in fact the Cowboys, Uh what was your grade on Kenny Lawler? Like fourth? Maybe I think I had a late third, early fourth. Get him? Yeah, I'm I don't know. I mean four, sixth athlete. And he has some bad drops. That's the that's the that's why he's still available at this I feel better in that case. I don't. We don't need bad hands. Yeah, well we'll see. We'll see how And he has confused hands because he makes some of the best catches you'll ever see. He just drops some easy ones. Thinks too much. Well, to me, it's too It's going either either way. Either gonna take a receiver here, We're gonna take a quarterback. I'd rather have a dB. If we're being honest, you've said, okay, the picks in. Let's see what the cowboys are gonna do here. Uh, nobody's gonna announce it, I don't think. But let's see you'll have like a fan crew or something. Well, yeah, where's where is? Where is rowdy? There's no doubt about that. We need some rowdy. I thought somebody told me that they were gonna make a pick out at the new facility this weekend. I mean they still they have many more picks, have many more picks. Let's see it. In fact, the Cowboys do make a make a pick here. They they turned the card in and they says it's in one and seven at home last year, remember how awful that was? Awful us Remember previous year how great it was on the road when we were eight. No, that was a lot of fun. Oh man, Well, let's see that they've they've kind of everybody's standing around them there now they're trying to figure out if you look at they're all looking they've got they're trying to figure out, well, they've got all those picks in the sixth round in those compitt stores, so they're trying to line them. Okay, Joe Joe Baker's in their shaking hands with people. So this is gonna be a dB here, and we got to figure out my My highest rated dB on the board is the brown kid, Anthony Brown from Perdue. So let's see if they do Brian brought us a favor and actually draft a guy that I like. How about that they're gonna go I shouldn't say that I like their guys back to back Perdue players. Is that what you're trying to tell me right now? I'm just telling you though, the best player on my board is is Anthony Brown. We'll see how that is if they don't take the receiver to either lawl or a Brown and lissab was a guy. Maybe they're maybe they're maybe they talked about our drawing this out. Just make the pick. You want me to make the pick for ma? Thank you already? Did I am? I'm on the table for Brown Brown. I'm on the table and there it is killing me, all right, Mindy Brown? Gosh, So what do you like about Anthony Brown? I'll tell you I'm on a four three three speech. I love that. For what do you talk about him? If you want to write here this is your guy? Okay? Let mind? And these are the games I watched Marshall Virginia Tech, Indiana State Bowling, Green, Michigan State, Nebraska. I saw this guy could plant, he could drive. I mean I seem to close a little bit quicker, could play with the off hand. He will position himself to knock the ball away. He's a boundary corner again like we talked about, though, saw him is a wrap up tackle. Of times he plays a little sideways and that's because of technique and pedal. Maybe some of the stuff in the zone, but he'll adjust back to the football. He wants to get to the ball. He's got ball skills. I think he needs to look back a little quicker for the football, but he could read routes, use him on the corner blitz. He has the traits. My last line has the traits of a complete cornerback. Third round grade. Brian brought us Dallas Cowboys, taking him at six. I gave a fourth round grade. I'm close to Yeah, I think you're very close to me. I saw a guy very close. You are right, You're you're getting there, I think. But to your point about the traits, yeah, the blend of size, yeah, the the speed, and the confidence. I think those three building blocks or which you want in a corner and I think he has those three areas. He checks those boxes and so I think you can you can have a future player here. Yeah, well here you go. And that's a so Anthony Brown cornerback. Dabe, you want to chime in on him at all? How about you said four three eight on the speed right? Four three three three, I don't know. I adjusted at four three five is what I have him right there. I'm not going to try to improve on the scouting reports to think, oh why not go ahead, y'all got that taken care of. But I mean this was this was the last spot that they really a big need spot that they hadn't addressed in one way or another. Uh. And you know it's the sixth round. Actually, I was thinking, you know, Joe Baker was in there, and I was like, hey, coach, sorry we didn't get you, Jalen Ramsey. But here's Anthony Brown at one eighty nine. I hope you feel better. Yeah, um that said. I mean, I mean, so Brandon Carr's a free agent next year, Morris Claiborne's a free agent next year. Um, this is a position that they needed to address. And um, you know you have Terrence Mitchell and Degi Olatoyer who are intriguing talents, but you needed to bring another guy in here to compete Orlando six standards coming off a knee problem. Um. It's funny because last night I was saying, you know, they had two spots in the fourth round and three positions that I felt that they really couldn't afford to ignore. Right, They took quarterback, they took pass rusher, They waited on cornerback, and honestly, I think I'll probably take that. I think they can get by the best with this scenario where you know you're not expecting the most of a sixth round pick, but I think they can get by with it. And this this upgrades the talent on the on the depth chart for the time being for sure. Okay, do you have anything else day you get on that? We got them cover, Okay, I think so. Okay, the Los Angeles Rams are on the clock. Are they handed their pick in? We've yet to see it roll across the bottom of the screen. Let's pick six one ninety will be made. It looks like it's Josh Forrest, the linebacker from Kentucky, former y receiver moving to linebacker. Uh, it's still a work in progress, but I thought he had a nice week at the Senior Bowl and so solid pick here in the six the guy that has compete on special teams, he might have a starter down the road. Okay, and then then that puts it's gonna put Detroit on the clock at six one ninety one. Uh, they've we've we've talked about They've they've addressed it looked like they've addressed every pick has been offensive line for the most part for them. Uh, so we'll see what direction they go. Uh. I was just kind of this thing. It can't I didn't know if you had any people any Twitter questions come in about about the pick, about the pick itself, Did anybody know much about from what we're talking about with Anthony Brown and stuff like that. Uh? People just a little disappointed we didn't take Listen be Yeah. I think the fans are just aching for a receiver right now. You think they'll maybe aim for one with these last three picks here may Yeah, Well we'll see. In fact, I don't think that Listen b is long for the world here, to be honest with you, it makes it sound like he's gonna die. Brian, No, I don't mean. I just feel like though we're looking, you're looking, we're looking at the board, you're looking at the board, and you start we had him as a guy that we said, okay, we would take him here at this pick. Yeah, yeah, we would take him, and we've all our list to be all that kind of glad they didn't take him out, says he just ran into Derek Julie in the hall and he's dying for some receivers too. Okay, well, yeah, we will keep an eye out. Yeah, well listen, be was his guy, and uh Marquez and arth is still there though. Yeah, and they but they've got they've got to carry. They've got a long way to go till they get to those competatory picks its. Yeah. Selfishly, I'm glad they didn't get listen to me after that hatchet job I did on him right there before the did you did you do a hatchet job? It wasn't very nice to him, and I wasn't. I didn't have a lot of good stuff to say. Yeah, well, we'll see. I can say that. I just think when you're sixth round, you're looking at traits. We talked about the hands and uh, but we also said vertical seed all that stuff like that, and okay, okay, Anthony Brown. And by the way, Detroit takes Jake Jake Rudoc, Jake Rudoc, Michigan quarterback. That is not going to be a far trip. Yeah, Jake Rudoc, the quarterback at Michigan. That's something Buffalo Bills got something condescending to say. Dane, mister buck Eye, No, he's okay, he's a tough son of a guy. I think if I give him a lot of credit for what he's just throughout this his senior year because he was an I would transfer graduate transfer, fifth year guys. So you know, he shows up at Michigan and you could tell at the beginning of the season it was rough, I mean in terms of understanding the playbook, the chemistry with his targets. But as the season wore on, you saw his confidence just start to go up and up and up, just be more comfortable within that offense. And I think Rudoc he had a really nice senior season and developed into a legitimate prospect. And here he is staying in the state of Michigan, going to be a Detroit Lion. Now. Yeah, so Jake Rudoc was I liked. I'll tell you what, though, there's some games. You know, hardball is hard on quarterbacks, and and and and he this kid brought some stability to Michigan, and Michigan turned it around. And if you look at the number of wins, and you know, this kid didn't didn't kill him in games. He was steady, he's tough. You know, with Michigan quarterbacks, you always kind of that. I was the Elvis Gerbach kind of and I know Tom Brady was gone on, but you always got that guy that's kind of that that long, you know, rangey looking bill, you know, kind of not always perfect the way he looks, but can do some really good things. So we'll say, okay, here's the pick is in for the Buffalo Bills, and we'll see if they roll it across the bottom. This is gonna be picks six, one ninety two. I actually I wanted the Buffalo Bills. I wanted to go back for a second. And I know we're talking about the sixth round. We're not talking about likely superstars here at this point, but uh, if you're if you're worried about receiver and grey, I mean, it's it's something to be worth being concerned about. I think that's fair. Between Terrence Williams Devin Street. You don't know what to expect from Lucky White. I mean, Dez is really the only guy, and I guess Cole Beasley that you can count on. But if you're worried about receiver, I feel a lot better just riding with what I've got right now and addressing that position next year. I feel way better that a first, second, or third round picket receiver can come in immediately like Terrence Williams did and contribute than I do about defensive back. I think defensive back and defensive end probably like the two hardest adjustments in football. Obviously quarterback. Yeah, but I just I feel better about asking a more highly touted rookie to step up at receiver than I would at dB. So I like the idea of cycling and trying to stock the depth chart at dB and keeping that in better shape, basically, is what I'm trying to say. And if there will be listen, b you were right, he's not long for the world. That's that's dramatic. But and I mean if you don't, if you don't hit a home run with receiver in this draft, I think you can deal with it next year and it's not the end of the world. Do you agree with that? Yeah? They still have hope for uh Devon Street Street. Devon Street going into his third year, you know, and Devon Street has gotten career recept Yeah, Devin Street needs to figure it out real fast, you know, I mean, dude, But do you think they still have hope? Oh? Yeah, she would, But maybe they would stop them for taking a receiver. But but Nick Eaveman walked in there and just said that, you know, Derek Dooley is itching for some from for some receivers. All position coaches are always itching from there. Guys, I look in the war room right now, Stephen Jones is on the phone. At this time, When Stephen Jones is on the phone like that and he's laughing, he's usually somebody from another team is uh calling him up and saying that, hey, we were going to take that guy right ahead right uh and behind you ste of a gun. Yeah, that's what guys do. They like to like to call each other and say, oh, man, you took my guy off the board. So but he he's got nothing that he can he could trade some next year's picks, his compensatory picks. He cannot move at all. So he's probably and Jerry's gonna Jerry's gonna pick the phone up now and visit. They're gonna have a nice little laugh about about maybe some players that have gone back and forth. So anyway, but Kolby listened, b uh goes to the Buffalo Bills. Oh wait, so um, we kind of got sidetracked I mean, break this receiver chart down. I mean, what are your hopes for Devin Street? You know what, I went into thinking that always going to be from the first year to the second year, there's gonna be a jump. And I didn't feel like that he got better. That's the problem that I had. And Lucky White hit. They found the way to get Lucky White hit the football. He became kind of a gadget player. They didn't. Yeah, he's not as yeah point yeah. I mean he's a you know, he's a he's that type of a guy. So, you know, I'm really, uh, I'm kind of of shocked that they didn't, you know, they maybe didn't address this a little bit earlier. I mean, you talk about two what's going on? Maybe they maybe they have high hopes you know for maybe so Yeah, I mean I think if I had to guess, I don't think Terrence Williams gets another contract here. No, I don't think so either. But like I said, okay, he's your he's your number two Beasley's obviously, I mean, he's gonna be your slot guy. He's not gonna be your number two outside receiver. But don't you feel like, you know, in next year's draft. Here, I have the list, I have the guys. I have the dudes I need right here. Second round ye where they I mean the guys like will Fuller come to find? You know you can go second round name Shepherd Fuller, Michael Thomas at what forty three? I think forty seven? Yeah, you plug a guy like that right in there and first round grade. I mean, that's that's more than adequate. You know, this is not a position that you need to address multiple years in advance, at least not when you have things in place like Dez and Beasley already there and so, but he's different from what they have if they would have picked Lucab He's different from what they have with the vertibal player. Honest, I would have been jacked if they'd gotten a guy like will Fuller. Just I mean in terms of the speed. I know you don't like his hands, but I think there will be. It's a plug and play position, is what I'm trying to say. And so if you don't get your guy in twenty sixteen, try again next year. I think you'll be fine. The Tennessee tightens it s ninety three. Take the Arkansas guard Tratola Tratola, former Nevada player, transferred six four, three hundred fifteen pounds. Guys has some weight issues. He lost over fifty pounds since he arrived in Fayetteville, so you know, he needs to stay make sure he you know, keeps that weight under control. Maturity has been a question in the past, so a couple building blocks. He does have the size, obviously, and he has the strength. He's going to be a grinder. He's that type of player, and so I think whether he's pushing for a starting job or not. He's a guy that's started almost every game the last two years of left guard. A lot to work with there. Yeah, I was. I was kind of going back and reading my notes as you were going there. I thought he was a powerful guy, and I thought, you know, for a big guy, he can hook his guy. He could he catches him and then gets a little bit of push with him. He can hold initial quickness for the position. He could sustain blocks good, adjust on the second level down block, then adjust a little bit out of control in space. There's sometimes they asked him to pull and he just wasn't very good at doing that. But you know, you could you could see a little bit of a one shot block or in this guy then try and sustain. But there's some times where he's off balance, good on the blitz, kind of a good pass pro guy when he can get his hands inside. So that's the Tennessee Titans that would be their guy. To a player just went that. We talked about the Cowboys having possible interest in maybe in one of those comp picks. Corey James. Yeah, linebacker from Colorado State. We drafted our armlocked draft draft show. Yeah, we sure did Corey James. And we all liked Corey James a lot, and uh we we you had a little bit concerned where would you play Corey James at The Cowboys brought him in as one of the thirty visits. Reggie McKenzie grabs him with pick six, one ninety four. Uh, with to the Oakland Raiders. Here's a guy that can rush, can play, I mean he could play at his feet. He was a handdown guy initially the four to three and then they switched schemes. He went to a three to four and he was doing those things. So, uh, Corey James, maybe he as we've you know, talked about some replacements for for Benson Mayowah Benson Mayowah was a guy that was a rusher outside linebacker for that for their team. And they're showing them highlights right now of Kobe Lisson and it's all vertical routes and so does best. That's what he does best. That's absolutely absolutely it's what he does. It's what he does best. That's what he does. Do. The other stuff just not quite as good as quite as good. Okay, we are, We're very nice. Okay, So this is gonna be pick uh pick one ninety five. This is the it's I got. Atlanta has his pick right now, and let's see who the Atlanta Falcons in fact are able to draft. Uh here with this pick. I got some like reverb in my ear going on right now. We got a player on the phone. Maybe we're good with that. We don't have a player on the phone. Okay, No, I'm sorry about that, which is kind of maybe maybe I'm hearing things right now. I was actually tweeting about this earlier, So shame on me for leaving it off. We're talking about all these wide receivers. Nicholas makes the great point. Bryce Butler's still kicking around tea. No, absolutely, he's a big, fast guy. Yeah, he can do that. And he's entering free agency as well. But um, they traded their fifth ye this year for him, so they did almost like they drafted him this year. I'm not gonna go as far as to say that I have like high, high, high high expectations for the guy, but he showed enough last year that I'm intrigued to see what he can do. Yeah, if he can stay healthy. He was battling a hamstring injury. Um, but he took him out a lot of games. He fits that, it did, but he fits that mold of a big, fast outside receiver who can do those types of things. And it looks like that. The Falcons to guard West Sweitzer. Schweitzer, Yeah, from San Jose State, and he fusting They listened as a guard. He was a tackle in San Jose State, six four, three hundred pounds. UM. I gave him p F a grade. He worked out really well, and I think that's what while we're seeing him being drafted more so for the workouts than the tape. But a solid athlete who probably best inside a guard, but did play tackle mostly at San Jose State. Okay, so that would be him that once again. That pick went at six five to the Atlanta Falcons. Uh, Candiser anything on Twitter? Anybody wants to know about from us? Yeah, we want a pro comparison for Anthony Brown. What kind of a player is he? Guys that are already in the league. Pro comparison for Anthony Own. Okay, five eleven one nine five run for three speed for three speed. Trying to think about that with that all on y'all, y'all are the scouts? Yeah, Dan, he just doing the measurables, trying to I'm picturing him play, watching him on tape, epperdue, and I'm trying to think who that kind of mirrors at the NFL game. Let's come back to that. Well, we'll come up with one here. Yeah, I'm trying to think in my head. Okay said, I want to throw out a name, and yeah, unless it's good. We got the audio, the audio from the call for for Anthony Brown. Let's go to that right now. Hey, Anthony, this Jerry Jones's scowboys. We called them, tell you we just drafted you. We're turning your card in up there, and uh, congratulations. I appreciate it, and I really appreciate well, you got some weight supporting the room and the scout. It's uh, I thought a lot of you get in here and make this team and have you a great career in the NFL. Okay, but congratulations, you're Dallas Cowboy. All right now listen, here's your head coach, Jason Garrett. He won't say welcome to you as well, here he is. Anthony. Congratulations, I appreciated. Well, we're excited about you, and I can't wait to get you here and put you to work. I'm good, I'm riving. Okay, it's a great day. Gross to look forward to seeing you next week. All right, see you, okay, buddy, take care and there you go. Anthony Brown, it sound like he was a little little emotional, yeah and shocked. Oh yeah. Well good for him though, I mean he's, uh, he's going to get an opportunity. And then what we know about the Cowboys with some of the uh some of the needs maybe not so much for this year, but maybe even for next year down the road as far as guys that they're going to have to replace. So Anthony Brown, though, is a very talented football player, and uh, you know he's gonna come in here and and there's no doubt he will compete on a on a very high level. I liked what I saw from him at Purdue, I really did. I think the speed's legitimate. I think the quitness is legitimate. I think he knows how to play routes. A lot of positive things about him. I've got my comp for Anthony Brown. Hit me my comparison. I'm going with Tracy Porter. Oh yeah, he's been in the league, you know, a while now. I think he was You got my attention. He was a second rounder back in eight. Yeah, two thousand and eight. Very good memory. Well, he played for my hometown team. That's true. I won a super Bowl. Um, he won a super Bowl. He's whatever he does for the rest of his life. He's one of the two or three biggest heroes in New Orleans history. So paying off Peyton Manning and Brett Fife in back to back games super Bowl, sure did. But he has, you know, not the biggest, but solid in terms of size, five to eleven, one hundred and ninety pounds or so, excellent speed, yeah, and so has some playmaking skills, has the confidence. I think Tracy Porter would be my comp if we're looking for one for Anthony Brown. Yeah. Martin on Twitter wants to know what the Cowboys could possibly get a kickoff returner punt returner with one of these three last picks. I really really and I didn't think they would spend a draft pick on him, but I wanted Jachim Grant to wind up here. I thought he's he's a Texas guy. If he falls out of the draft, I think the Cowboys call him and maybe he comes here. You see things like that all the times guys picked the Cowboys, either because the money's good, or because it's close, or because it's the Cowboys. Who's my kid from Colorado Pueblo. Oh, yeah, thats the running the wide receiver. Oh the kid that got four two? Yeah, he has workout. Yeah, you got her book? Where's our where's your book? It's in your book? Got it, wide receiver? Why can't I remember guys that I like? Because there's too many? Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I'm to the point now I got brain dead. They have been talking all weekends, hearing Duncan Duncan here, Karen Duncan. Yeah, if you watch Karen Duncan's t you can move a little bit. Yeah, Karen Duncan is one of those guys that when the ball is in his hands on punt return, kick return, more so, is a punt returner. Guys got some I don't think he was in Dane rode him up at the best. Let me let me, let me see if let me see if I got any Karen Duncan for you guys here, uh at the I think he's a draft pick or do you think he's a priority for well, he's a guy that can. I know one thing. When I watched him on tape, I don't. I didn't. I watched him a little bit. I saw some on tape of him as a returner, and he wasn't one of those guys that uh. I mean, he really stood out that way. Not to h not to interrupt you, but interesting over here on the warm room cam you kind of got Joe Bakers still kicking around, as is Greg Jackson. So both defensive back coaches. And they might still be there from the Anthony Brown pick. But no, they're trying to figure out right now they're over by the board, they're they're now they're thinking about numbers. Now they're thinking about, Okay, how many guys do we want to take the camp and they're gonna try and line up the priority order of how they want to do these uh these uh these finally six round picks, the pick at one at two twelve, the pick there at two sixteen and two seventeen. So what they're trying to do is figure out, Okay, who do we need to fight for our draft now that we don't want to fight for in free agency. You know, that's that's kind of doing what they're standard. The board they're looking at right now is their actual as the stack, and then also the board by by the round. Uh, so they're trying to figure out how they want to make these picks come off. Will McClay pointing okay, saying okay, that one, then that one, then that one, and you can see how he's using his fingers to say, this is what they're gonna do. So anyway, Uh, let's see Tampa Bay is on the clock at one ninety seven. Again, this is all about what the Cowboys are doing here to try and prioritize what order they want to take these guys, because the picks are going to go back to back and they want to make sure that they help helps them with their numbers of their team as well, so Chargers that they showed the Chargers on the clock. Uh at they had two picks come off the board. Yeah, okay, I'm sorry about that. What's excuse me? West Switcher. We talked about the guard and then now Philadelphia took Blake Countess, uh from a defensive back from Auburn. Auburn, he was Michigan transfer, one of those fifth year guys under sized, under five eighty five pounds. Not a fan. I don't know. They tried him at corner and then he moved into safety. Uh. Too many negative players on his tape for me, but I mean I wrote them up, and um, you know, I think maybe on special teams he can do something. But not a big fan. And JJ Wat's a little brother j J. Watt. They yeah before him though, let's see yeah Sandy Okay. The Tampa Bay took Dan Batally right from Northwestern, a guy that played in the Senior Bowl. We got a little bit of taste of his work. And then Derek Watt a pick from the from the San Diego Chargers from Minnesota Vikings at pick one ninety eight. He's Wisconsin kid. He gets drafted by the Chargers, so fullbacks back to back. Tampa takes by Tally, San Diego takes Wat talk a little bit about Dan, but Tally, if he would their dame. He played the super back position for Northwestern, so he did a little bit of everything from the slot to in line to the wing, even lined up as a as a fullback. So he's, uh, you know, kind of that that versatile H back type of player. He's very competitive guy, whether it's as a lead blocker at pass protection, does a lot of things. He enjoys the dirty work, he has no problem with that, has some natural receiving traits, finds the football quickly. I mean now he's not like a He's not going to carry the ball very off and only six career carries but one hundred and thirty five catches over his career, so uh, you know, six one, two hundred and forty pounds. He's that versaile h back. And a little bit about Derek Watt if you have, he's forever gonna be known as JJ's little brother. There's no way around that, right. Um he was at Wisconsin just like his brother. Uh, he was underused throughout his career. Um, I think that you know he can as a as a pass receiver. I mean he can do that. He just he doesn't stand out in any really one area. His best ability might be that he can also long snap, which can help you and save a roster spot. So I don't know, I wasn't blown away with with why I think you know he's he's football focused. There's a lot of things alike about his mentality as intensity as a football player, but uh, not gonna give you much as a as a ball carried, not going to give you much as a receiver special teams and as a long snapper where JJ Watt's gonna have to earn his roster spot. Yeah. And since a Bengals just selected uh Cody core a wide receiver from Mississippi States, Yeah as well, so uh they all miss Rebels represented now once again in this drafts actually wide Cincinna Bengals with that selection at pick six one ninety nine. Um, just kind of looking as Bill park Sells would say, my board looks a little bit like a three day old Thanksgiving turkey. It's been picked over pretty good. Right now. Let me are still some names so in that fourth round and that I like and I keep talking about lawlor In Cash and guys like that. I'm really surprised that their names have not been mentioned. I feel like a big old Homer Dane. But Jalen Mills is a third round grade in your book, and he really sits. It's the off field stuff that has to be I mean, I agree if Robinson went before him, how about that. Yeah, teams are just aren't comfortable with you know, the reports they've gotten back from uh, you know, whether it's LSU coaches, uh, you know, people around him, the owned work they've done with the interviews his legal past. Teams just aren't comfortable with it at this point. I still and honestly that that in itself doesn't surprise me, because I mean, he was in a domestic violence incident. He was nearly kicked off of Ellis Who's team a couple of years ago. But during this entire draft process, it really hasn't been a talking point. No, it hasn't. And I get it was a mistaken assumption, but I guess I was under the assumption that the little amount of attention that it had gotten, kind of like Dak Prescott and the DUI, meant that, you know, people felt confident it was an isolated incident, and this one's been a sponge since from his record. Yeah, you know, it's something that and I'll read this right from my report, Offield character a question mark following a May twenty fourteen incident where he was charged with striking a woman in the face, requiring four stitches. Second degree battery. Charge was dropped to a misdemeanor simple battery. He enrolled in a one year intervention program instead of standing trial, and that charge since been a sponge from his record. So you know, even though it's been a sponge, it still happened. In NFL team's not going to ignore something like that. It was a four year starter. He's played free safety's played corner. He's very talented. At the Senior Bowl, I thought he had a great week running routes, four receivers and making plays. The off off field baggage that's really weighing him down right now. I consider domestic violence to be the greatest baggage of all and kudos to NFL teams for taking it seriously. Um, I guess, I guess I was just you know, the the lack of the lack of attention that it got. I guess I thought that meant that that NFL teams were a little more um comfortable with it, but apparently not. Yeah. Well, at the Green Bay Packers are on the clock right now. This is a this is pick six two hundred as we work our way to pick two fifty three. The Packers, uh have have done some things. We've talked about them adding some offensive lineman. You know, we've I documented about Teddy Thompson and his love for the pack twelve uh in in that in that regard he likes the guys, those tough, smart players. Uh, a lot of those guys, you do get This is the final pick of the night for the Packers. Yeah, so they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna do some uh, they're gonna do some uh some good here they think, and then uh and then try and hunker down and see what happens in the very very m Yeah, Kyle Murphy, there gotta go. So there you go. There's another Ted Thompson special. Number two two hundred was Kyle Murphy offensive tackle from Stanford, very tough guy, Dane, in which you and your approach on him, him and Josh Gardnett really formed a dynamic duo on the left side of that Stanford line. Uh, A little bit of a tweener for me. I don't can he stay at tackle? I don't know. Does he have to move inside the guard? Does he have you know, the base strength and the quick reset to stay at guard. I'm not sure. A little bit of of a tweener there, so, but Green Bay needs death at both spots, so you know whether he's a tackle, whether he's a guard, maybe a little bit of both. I think that death will help that team. Yeah. I liked him better on taped, and we saw him at the Senior Bowl a little bit. Have some struggles there, but Michael Length, Yeah, I thought that, you know, a little bit of a push blocker, you can capture the Edgeohn. You gotta watch him. He'll lose that balance on you. He'll give up the inside. Doesn't have much snap to his blocks, but he could kick to the edge. You gotta watch him though. He could get walked back. We saw that a little bit at the Senior Bowl right there, and I'm worried about him though, getting snatched off balance a little bit. So we'll see how Kyle Murphy works out for the Green Bay Packers. The Jacksonville Jaguars have handed in their card. They're now at pick it's six two h one and uh be interest. They've gone really all defense in this draft. So I have a feeling this is going to be an offensive player. Yeah, and and you know there's probably there's some offensive guys that are still on this board. Uhaway. Jacksonville is in the running for them having the best draft. They they're so let's see if they can continue that here. But yeah, you look at it with Jalen Ramsey emails, Jack dah Shelton Day, Tyrone Holmes. These are all four guys that are going to be in the top and in the front seven and right, oh, the other guy, Jalen Ramsey, Right, so five playmakers. The guy did you mentioned the fact that Dante Fowler's coming back? Oh yeah, who's the first runner from last year? That's right, Yeah, has not played down of NFL football yet. But so it's almost like they get another first rounder this year and you're three of Blake Bortles with that wide receiver first round bordals this year. Yeah, he needs to take that next step down on the interception him and those receivers though not bad when you have an Alan Robinson. The third two not at all looks like the Comlin they're getting my best friend. Yeah, I've got my Twitter, pick your Twitter, your Twitter, Buddy Man Hammer Friends, Mike Tom, He's got that. He's guys jump man thing working today too, Eddie jump Man, jump Man, jump man. How about that Brandon Allen Allan, how about that pick right there? A sixth round? I love it? I mean again, Jacksonville continues to have a nice, a nice day with Brandon Allen. Yeah. I had Brandon Allen on my board. Uh in the fourth round, I had it's today as we started, it was Connor Cook, Dak Prescott who the Cowboys did take, and then Brandon Allen man in the fourth rout of fifth round grade on him. So I'm right there with you, the Cowboys. The Cowboys could stand to learn a thing or two from some of these teams. Uh. Yesterday New England drafted Jacoby Brissette despite having Jimmy Garoppolo. But they they're gonna lose, they let me finish, so they need a guy they need and you know they want to have depth for their backup or a guy that can push Garoppolo Jacksonville resigned Chad Henny to an agreeable veteran contract to back up Blake Bortles. But why not just go ahead and get a guy that you can bring in there and have be your third hen he's not gonna be around forever. Can develop him to be Bortles's back up when Henny decides to go. Yeah, I don't disagree with you at all. Right there, it's maybe the best. It's maybe this draft is really easy when you do it the right way. It's maybe my favorite thing Dane says, which is that drafting a quarterbacks just like buying a powerball ticket. Just ye do it? Yeah, every year? Why not? Why not? What lake you're talking to a guy? It was in Green Bay that we did it all the time. Just do it, and hell he could be a beast, and if he's not, whatever you're trying. I like that strategy a lot. I think it's the right way to do it. I definitely think you should draft more than two quarterbacks for twenty years. You look at what the Patriots do. You look at I mean good teams, that's what they do. They draft quarterbacks and in some cases you can flip that quarterback four picks on the road. You know, you can turn a six rounder into a second or third rounder. Now the Patriots, they've done it and it hasn't worked out in certain situations. Ryan Mallett, you know they that didn't quite work out for them. Well, Jimmy Garoppolo, we'll see if they have If Jacoby Brissette, if they feel strong enough with him coming along, they might deal Garoppolo, who I think is in the Tony Romo mold. I think he can start in this league be a Tony Romo type of passer. So absolutely, I think it's just smart business to draft a quarterback, if not every year, you know every other year, especially if you have more than six or seven picks. So we're waiting right now for the Detroit Lions to make their selection there at pick uh where at six two o two uh we uh, the Cowboys will pick again. If you want to understand where they're at on the board, where we're actually one, two, three, four, five six picks away from being out of the round and then into the compensatory picks the Cowboys in this in this final, in the sixth round, that these will be their final picks because they will not be able unless they trade next year's one or not an extra one, but a next year's selection to get back in like they did last year. They will have picks again at at six two twelve and then pick six two sixteen and at six two seventeen. So what we saw a little bit was them on the board. They were trying to line these guys up on how they want to select them. They're gonna happen. It's gonna happen fast. They just want to make sure they get the order right. And in the case that somebody umps, it's a case that one of their they lose with their picks. Say, for example, uh, they make that pick at two twelve. San Francisco picks there, New England picks there, Seattle picks there. So they got to make sure that they've got this thing squared up the right way in case they get jumped, not jump, but one of their guys goes. Okay, it looks like that. Anthony Zettel is the selection for the Detroit Lions at six two o two, the defensive tackle from the from them from Penn State, So any thoughts on him there, Dane third Penn State, and any lyon off that defensive line to be drafted following Uh, Carl Nassem, and Austin Johnson. H Zettel is a player that highly competitive. It hates to come off the field. He's a tweener, though where do you plan him? He is not quite a defensive tackle, not quite an end. I think that position confusion is why he's here in the sixth round. But bursts off the ball, plays with power, plays with pop and his hands UH and the motor just doesn't stop the guy just he will continue to fight through the echo of the whistle. And so I think that's that's something that's He's gonna make it extremely tough for the coaches to cut a guy like that because his efforts off the charts. And that would be yes, Anthony Zettel. I just some of my notes, looking from what I saw on tape myself lines up something as a three technique pad level gets a little high at times, some initial quickness will fire into the gap. Doesn't have many pass rush moves. He's a he's really a try hard guy. When it comes to that, you can wall him out. Doesn't always hold the point very well. It doesn't always keep blockers off. His body work down the line of scrimmage that a little trouble getting the edge as a rush or spin moved to free himself. But like you said, Dan, he's a guy that doesn't want to come off the field efforts there. You know he's gonna he's you know, he's gone of those guys. Don't be surprised he makes the team because coaches have a prompt cutting guys that showed that they care the passion and they want to coach his favorite players. That's coaches are. Yeah. My biggest issue with him is he just doesn't play with a plan. Yeah, he just kind of all right, snap go, you know, he's gonna try and make something happy. He doesn't really put thought into his pass, rush, um and so he'll abandon his gaps at times. Yeah, you know, doesn't play with proper techniques. So he just, like you said, to try hard. A guy that relies more on motor than technique to get the job done. Okay, So now we're at the Miami Dolphins have this pick. Uh well actually excuse me, Kansas City's got this pick. It's pick six two oh three. Uh, they could go a couple different ways. Again, you're looking for guys with traits, Uh, we had all those defensive ends in that fourth round those underside maybe looking for a linebacker type of guy, knowing John Dorsey, Andy Reid and that guy. They're trying to maybe help their defense here, uh with you know, uh Scooby rights out the Scoobies right out there. We had, We had Oche was out there, Fanica, Daddy Nicholas. I mean we had all those guys. Odd we talked about odd Man of Cavage is a tough, tough, try hard guy. Uh bhc to see, maybe they're gonna add somebody to help uh this defense. Like we haven't had a Buckeye in a while. We need one of those left. There's been like there's three left, uh Tivis Powell, Jalen Marshall, and then um, if they're gonna set the record, they need uh Chase Ferris to be drafted. So three maybees here in the last fifty Could you think that they could get what do you think they'll get him in the seventh round? Do you think that will be the Do you think somebody will hit hit those picks? It's it's a big bossible. There we go. Yeah, there's Daddy Nicholas there. Daddy Nicholas Chiefs. Daddy Nicholas goes to the Kansas Chiefs. We were talking about on my board, I had those fourth round rushers. Uh, the guys that were undersized. Where do you play him? Where do you play Daddy Nicholas? I think, Yeah, he's listed as a linebacker with the with the Chiefs, so uh, he was a deepitsive ended edge. He's an edge. That's when I don't know what to do with the dude. I just write for him in there. He's two hundred and thirty five pounds. I mean, there's no way he can hold up unless he's a wide nine type of defensive end. Right. He needs space, So it makes sense to play him off the line in a scheme like the Chiefs. So uh, you know he's going to be a pass rush specialist, but he he needs a lot of work before you know, Daddy Nicholas is going to see the field consistent. Oh yeah, they flew a guy out to London to do this. I saw the Jaguars that excuse me, very nice? Is d Ford doing things in Kansas City? Or we'll find out this year with what's his name, hurt Um? What their best player Houston? Yeah, Yeah, justin Houston with him out with a torn acl he's out for the year already. Well. He they think he might be able to come back later in the year, but he's uh, he'll be out for at least the first half of the year. Yeah, but there's Thomas still there. So yeah, my guy Tombahali Uh like yeah, Daddy Nicholas, I you know you're right Dan about the you know, about being undersized. But he's impressive though. He's got some quickness to him to swim those blocks. Uh, he's best. We could play on the move. You get him on the move. He's got a great shot. He's got the quickness to get around the edge. He could be washed a little bit, but not afraid to take on place as a stand up guy. I think that's what the Chiefs see in him. Knows for the football, quick with his hands. Uh, you know, he's got the speed to get to the corner. Let's see if he does it all the time. I mean, he's got the reach that lenked when he gets in the pocket, he could affect the quarterback. I saw some games North Carolina State Tulsa, Ohio State where he was able to effect because of his reach in the pocket getting around the corner, so we will see. Okay, So the Miami Dolphins are on the clock at six two o four, their pick is in. It's uh, we're getting out again. I've said a bunch in this round about the traits. You know, you know there's some names that are that we I mean, I'll ask you to reset some of the guys that you have available, Dane and see if maybe you can hit one of these guys that they might pick here. Well, we got Jeremy Cash at the top right, Duke's safety, Jalen Mills defensive back. We talked about Kenny Lawler, the receiver, Scooby Wright linebacker, Darryl Greens in Diego State guard, Harlan Miller of the corner from Southeastern Louisiana. Schroon Peak Clemson. What are you thinking maybe secondary here? I think it's secondary myself. I mean, I you know, I mean, Harlan Miller is still out there. He had a nice week in Mobile, A player who you know didn't run really well to combine, and I think that has really hurt him and why he's still available at this point. Do you think teams went back in though and time got better time on him though. I mean, do you feel like that maybe that, you know, with Harley Miller, because his tape was pretty good, there wasn't. I thought he had nice week of the senior boy. He ran a four six five at the combine, but then a four or five to seven at the pro day. So yeah, a little bit better. Is still not ideal for a corner. But you know, six foot, one hundred and eighty pounds. Uh, you know, he has has a size that you want, thirty one and a half inch arms, he has length. Yeah. Uh. Jordan Lucas, Jordan Lucas another secondary guy guy. He another guy tested really well, a player who missed second half of the season because of an injury. But once he had a chance to work out, he wowed some people. Um, you know he ran a four four five thirty eight and a half inch vert six seven zero three cones. So I think Jordan Lucas with his workout, you know, put him in this discussion to be drafted here, Okay, that that would that was the pick for the Miami Dolphins. Jordan Lucas defends back there from Penn State, Arizona is on the clock. It's a pick six h two oh five. Dallas. Again, we're two picks away from being in compensatory land where those picks cannot be traded. Uh, Dallas. As we look in the room over my shoulder. Uh, they're lining them up. Their first pick will be at two twelve. Then they will take another pick at sixteen or two sixteen, and then two seventeen, and they are done for the day that it becomes the scramble for college free agents. So what they're doing right now is they want to figure out in what order Jerry Jones standing there with Will McClay, Stephen Jones. They want to figure out how they want to play this so they don't want to have to fight for a guy in free agency. And then we saw last year that they gave a six round pick to San Francisco to get the rights to draft the guy. So we'll see if in fact that is the case. Everybody else in this organization moves around the war room at a pretty good click. I don't think Chris Hall gets up. Well, he's got the phone, Yeah, he's Chris is an old school scouter guy. Chris All again with Chris, he always sits, He always sits in the He used to sit in his office. If you look in the back end of office office, that's his office with the blinds. Uh. Right, next is it Hublow? You blow, you blow clock on the wall, beautiful clock on that wall, by the way, But that's his office back there. Yeah, and so Chris, But Chris is on the phone with Uh. I always think Robert Blackwell and Steve Gaglardino are at the Chicago right now. So that's I mean, like, that's Chris Hall's domain three hundred and sixty five days a year, right, So I always wonder how he feels about all these people all up in his space. Well, he knows, he knows when it's is over then that all those guys need to leave, they're gonna go away. That will go. There goes Harlan Miller. Okay, were you go? Harlan Miller? Right there? So nice job by Dame Brugler gave you a little scouting report on Harlan Miller and what he could potentially bring to the Arizona Cardinals at this point in the sixth round. You know, again didn't run real well at the Combine Oris Pro Day. But you know in sixth round, a player that played better than a six round round tape, and so I think that's what's most important. How to solid solid week at the Senior Bowling mobile. You could tell obviously very lean for a six foot or only one hundred and eighty pounds. The feet need to calm down a little bit, but you have some traits there you can work with. Okay, so that would be uh, that's Harley Miller, Arizona at pick six, two o five. That mains me, excuse me that the Los Angeles Rams are on the clock at six two h six. We are six picks away from the Cowboys making their selection at two twelve. We've talked about this a bunch, making sure they line these guys up. It is not gonna be a long wait after that. Two twelve now two sixteen and two seven. Yeah, they can go back to back, so we'll see how this thing. Make sure they they just do not want to fight for anybody in free agency. That's that's kind of tricky though, because it is well, they're well, but they're a full round ahead, I mean right, so they can exactly as of right now, we don't know if they will pick again once two seventeen is ok. Yeah, and there's some and there's some names on this board. I mean there's still some guys. Dan, do you have any fourth round names? Do you have any one or two fourth round names on this my board? I have? Uh yeah, I mean Scooby, right, Darryl Green? Uh see, Harlan Miller just went off. Sharone peaked the wide receiver. A. Lawler's still out there right, um and then in the fourth see Babe's gone. We talked about Lawler in cash. I mean those are those are top gar at the tight end? Yeah, couldjuiced. Uh, Morey's candidate. Yeah, he's still out there. Damn, he is still out there. Yeah. I like him. I like I mean, he's a senior Bowl guy. I thought he had a good week. I know. Brian says, he gets he gets baited. He gets baited into overplaying Mike Thomas. That's a great pick, right, Okay, that's just happened. Mike Thomas, the wide receiver from Southern miss goes to the Los Angeles Rams. Go ahead, Dane, talk about that one. I'm a big fan of this player. Shocked it in get invited to the combine. He thought he deserved it. Player, he was the ex receiver at Southern Miss. Uh. Now he gets a little crazy with his routes, needs to be a little more controlled. But he plays fast. He plays with the you know, burst out of his out of his cuts. Uh. He's very lean, you know, six one, but he's under two hundred pounds and I think he can't get pushed around at times. But I love the skill set. He'll go and he'll pluck the ball away from his frame. Very fleet of foot athlete. He's flexible. Uh. You see the footwork, he can sell patterns and he's worked his tail off. And he started his career at the College of DuPage. Then he went to Dodge City Community College, and then he went the Southern Miss and then this pass travel. Yeah. And because he was uh you know he was he was a basketball guy. And then he started playing football later in his career in high school. And so he went under recruited and he worked hard to get to this point. Uh. And he will outplay this draft position. And I promise you though, Yeah, and a nice pick right there. I totally agree that to me. Had him in the fifth round. Mike Thomas ends up at the Rams. Uh, that would be pick two six again, Well, traveled. Uh individual. It looks like that the forty nine ers pick is in and let me see that would be the final pick. Uh, that that can be traded. But it looks like the forty nine ers are gonna stand in there and make this pick. And let's see in fact who they take. Uh, it's it's uh again pick two O seven and then we have the compensatory comps and then and then the comps will start after that particular pick. And it looks like Jeff Driscoll is the selection, the last of the Bulldogs. Yeah, so Jeff Driscoll quarterback h from uh I wrote down Florida, he's actually Louisiana Tech. That just shows me. But I was thinking about him being as a I was thinking about him being a Florida Gator. So the actually Louisiana tick Bulldogs. Don't watch the Tech tape, don't watch the Florida tap. That's twelve quarterbacks drafted, now, am we had seven last year and we have twelve in the six And the question, I'm gonna say twelve quarterbacks and people really only feel good about I'm sorry, that's thirteen, Yeah, thirteen quarterbacks. Thirteen quarterbacks, all right? None of them Vernon Adams. Yeah, none of them, Vernon Adams. That's right. Okay, So now we're into competatory land. The New England Patriots are the first team with a competatory selection here at six two h eight, followed by the Baltimore Ravens and then the Detroit Lions. Uh, these picks will go fast because again they'll have no opportunity to move them along. So we will see. In fact, you know, and I like, I say with with Dallas, I like their opportunity. I think we still have some names on this board. I've kind of like what Dallas has done here the last couple of picks that they've been able to make. I do like the selection, uh, you know with the quarterback with Dad Press Scott though. 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Bryan broad Us, David Hellman, Dame Brugler, Kient Garrison carrying you through here. We're into the Pitt story. Picks. Cowboys, remember, do not have a seventh round pick unless they jump back into this draft. And uh, like I say, we're in the compet story. So they cannot trade in these picks. If they want a seventh round pick, they're gonna have to give it next year's pick for that. So news coming out of Cleveland, what would that be there? Dave Helman Nate Ulrich of Ohio dot Com is reporting the Browns have traded for Dolphins corner Jamar Taylor. Hmm, don't have terms, but he swapped seventh front there you go. Interesting, Okay, all right, okay, it looks like that guys that we have Ah Anthony Brown, the newest member of the Dallas Cowboys from Purdue Anthony. It's Brian, Dane and Dave. Welcome to UH, to our program. Congratulations on being selected today. Thank you, thank you. It's gotta be very exciting for you, though, to to get that call. You're sitting there waiting throughout the the a couple of days in the draft. You know, I know, on on myself and Dane's draft board, we had you very high as a as a third round player, and you know here we are. We get into the sixth round. But a little bit of trying time. But you have to be very relieved though that you got picked and got picked by a team that surely can use cornerback help, especially the talent that you have. Yeah, that is all over teen get a chance to come in and compete, ready to meet on and ready to come alert, help us get a Houston Anthony. UH, David here, congratulations man Um, pumped for you. But just um, you know, we we obviously cover the draft, that's our job. It's a long process. We've been at it, UH, And I'm just curious, I guess, um, what what relationship if any, did you have with with this coaching staff, with this organization during the draft process, um at all and the lead up to this. I mean, some guys are really familiar with the team to drafts him, some not so much. And where do you fall on that scale? I talked to Coach Baker a couple of times before the draft, you know, to come by. I talked to him and I taught to coach coach here had to come by. Um, that was about it. I didn't I didn't have any visits anything. Anthony. You know, we know you can play corner, but about your special teams. I talked to one of your assistant coaches who's just said, you know, we can't block him on field goal tries? Is that a part of your game you take a lot of pride in. Yes, he back after due out on every extra point every field. Well, Anthony, listen, thank you so much. Congratulations to you on your selection. We look forward to seeing you here when you get to Dallas and start to work in and follow your career here with the Cowboys. We appreciate your time, man, absolutely, congrats. All right, that was Anthony Brown. We might have lost him there on his uh not a lost us, but thanks for him taking some times Okay, fascinating point by Dane right there. I mean, you know, if you're taking after the fifth or so round, you're probably gonna have to contribute on special teams, right Um that that's I mean, that's good to hear. You know how these guys feel about their special teamers h Kyle Wilbur and Jeff Heath have second contracts in Dallas primarily because of their special teams abilities. Um. So, to add a guy who can come in and compete at corner as well as as well as be good on special teams, that's big. And if you're looking at the war room camp him, you might see Rod Marinelli uh in the war room right now looking pretty you get pretty happy right now. He's got his hands on his hips and he just looks like he thinks he's the king of the world. Well, they got they were the picks in for the Lions. So the Lions, it's the Lions, forty nine ers and cowboys. So we're waiting to see what in fact, the what the uh what they are gonna do A linebacker here, I don't know. We we've kind of talked linebackers are possibly if it's defense. Give me the list of the defensive guys. You gotta get that Norfolk say, kid they looked at I mean, because that is that a possibility here, Dion King? Is that you know that someone they brought in as one of the thirty visits. Uh that? Who are the safeties? You like? Yeah? Can you? I mean they've already taken a quarter and we don't. We talked about cash quite a bit. How about you got pal on my board? Elston Frasier. How about Frasier? Uh? Yeah, Cavan Fraser from Central Michigan. He's a he's a solid player. You'd like to see him at this point. We talk about him a little bit though, I mean, I mean if the safety guys, I mean, we know about the cash and pal, but we haven't talked about a guy like Frasier or even I had. Elston is a guy as Elston a combine snub and yeah, Covon Frasier player who got hurt. He hurt his right foot and so he wasn't able to work out at the combine. But as pro day worked out really well for a player that's six foot two hundred and twenty pounds, a four or five athlete over forty inch vertical six eight eight three cone. Uh, this is a player who he passes the eye test. He plays fast, but he does some of his best work on special teams coverages. And we just got done talking about that with Anthony Brown. He played for We got a long snapper coming off the board. Yeah, how about that? Jimmy Landis goes yeah, absolutely, But with the covon Frasier. He played for Central Michigan head coach John bon Amigo. Yeah, John and bonamego. Yeah. He was a special team's coach in the NFL for what sixteen years. He certainly understands special teams and how important that is. Um. But I think he you know, over one hundred he had on hundred and eight tackles as a senior at Central Michigan. Uh. You know, he'll come up and hit you, but he also has athleticism to play in coverage. So I think he should be at the top of the safety list if that's what they're considering. Yeah, and uh, and that's it. I think that we have to look at because they added the corner. You know, we we talked about, Okay, what are they gonna do at safety? You know, linebacker was something you brought up, but I think that I think that we you're the cowboy. It's a here. I mean, it's a it's a defensive pick, right, we know that, right? Well, oh, hey, Scott Nahan just came in. I think they're talking. They got sixteen and seventeen. Yeah, they got, they got, they got, They're gonna go back to back here. So let's see what it. I mean. I like the idea of another DV to be totally honest with you. Yeah, just by virtue of what they have and what's available, I think that's probably the best value on the board here. Yeah, if you're looking at here, I gotta pull it up real quick. Sorry, I mean, yeah, you got Powell, you got Cash. Yeah. I don't know if they do it bas what we're learning today, but Mills is still there at some as always, at some point, the the risk becomes worth the reward. When you're talking about pick number two twelve. Yeah, I love Cash, I really do. But there's something and Dane, I think you hit it on the head. My love for him is just probably two schemes specific, you know, And I'm interested in the description you gave me. Just makes me think it's another very church with with with Frasier, not with cash, with cash. He I mean, he's he's he's the best tackling guy in the draft. I mean as far as the say in my opinion of those says in terms of being a run defender. Yeah, yeah, Barry Church is a pretty damn good tackler. He's a good run defender. Yeah, good box safety, yeah exactly. I mean, I just looking back, Okay, if I can't take cash the next guy like Powell was on my list about him, I let me tell you what I thought about Powell. I go the other way here. I wasn't totally shot in the rear about him as well. I think I think this is probably going to be uh, who knows. I mean, I'm just any love for DeAndre Elliott. I don't know, really read your pal real quick. I thought he's a I thought this guy as a will fit Ductor's head at time, struggles with some of the change of direction, can play the ball down the field, saw some range with this guy, doesn't play with much quickness. I just wasn't very excited to watch him at Ohio State. Okay, pal, that's pal, let me talk about what I saw with U with Let me see here with with Frasier with pet Cattler, Kelvin, Kelvin Taylor off the board. Oh, Kelvin Taylor goes Okay, so san Fran takes Kelvin tailor. Let me tell you what I thought about let me talk. I'm talking about about Frasier here a little bit. Um. I thought this guy did find the ball wrap up tackler puts himself in position aggressive, he'll come forward, physical player, can handle the tight ends underneath. But I don't want to see the ball going over the top of his head though that was something it was gonna be a problem. So maybe he's a guy that has to play a little bound need to keep the game in front him. But like how physical he plays, that would be uh Cavan Frazier from Central Misch if in fact that he is the guy that's going to be So you're right about Kelvin Taylor. H goes to two eleven. For those of them, I mean, I assume you're watching on TV, if you're listening to us, But yeah, Dallas is on the clock. Now, okay, Dallas, they've I mean they've made the pick in the war room. Yeah, TV's obviously behind at this time in the day. So yeah, here we go. Uh, TV is behind Dallas has made the pick. This could be Dallas's pick, the first one of three they have in this round. It's gonna be at pick two twelve. We've talked about a couple of different uh, a couple of different guys right there. Uh as far as the US maybe safety cornerbacks, that kind of uh, that kind of that kind of look. So let's see who in fact they do take with this pick. We've we've kind of gone through all kinds of of names of defensive players. It's I'm I mean, every pick they make is interesting, but I mom and I'm more interested to see what they do with the back to backs elections to close this thing out, because they're gonna be right back on the clock. Yeah, and they're gonna I mean they can just do take whatever order they want. So and I mean, if if this is a dB, it opens you up. I mean you could still get your interior offensive lineman. You could still take a stab at a receiver. Lawler's still there, is he not? Yeah? He is? This is where and this is where I think that if we see Derek Dooley making appearance in this room, which he has not. He has not made Now maybe he is working like Cak on the phones. These coaches they get in these rooms and they and they realize that they might not get a guy now. But the problem is they're a whole round ahead right now. Yeah, so if they're recruiting kids. Funny thing there, Derek Dooley is probably great at that. He had to recruit kids to Tennessee when he coached there, right, Uh, and I mean it's worked for him before. Um, who is the kid that he got a couple of years ago. Well, they overpaid the kid from US sermer. But now the kid the kid from Louisiana Tech who he tried to recruit to Uh or no, missoo, I'm sorry, the missoo receiver from Louisiana. He he did the team? Yeah, you make you look at me and like I had these answers on my head. Did he make the team? No, he didn't make the team, but it was still a cool story. Last year it's Washington. Yes, thank you, Dame Damien Washington, Washington, thank you, thank god. Ken. I mean, David, why can't you just mind? I can't can't put it together? Oh, there we go, There we go. All right, there's the pick, Frazier. I knew we'd eventually get to the guy we named a bunch of guys that are on a board. I got him on a I read you the player. I had him on the fifth round as a safety, him pal Elston. Uh. Cash was my guy too. So if if they whipped safety all right, in fact went for uh, we have er. We have officially entered into the territory where I'm going. Huh. So I can only imagine what the casual fan thinks. So you tell me, well, we read tell me what you think overall. I know you read it, but what do you I mean, Well, I have Cash, but I understand. I mean Cash is a down player. I get what they're doing. I mean I I saw a guy that was a great tackler. I saw a guy playing around on the line. I saw a guy that was playing in the slot. Now do you want to do it all the time? You know, probably not, But you know, a physical football player. He was one of my top fifty guys. I just I fell in love with a physical football player. I think he's gonna go somewhere. And I could be way wrong about him, but way right, But I just like a guy that's that's tough, and that's what I saw, Pal, I didn't see a tough guy, this frasier guy. I do see a tougher guy. I like how physical he is. I think you need to keep things in front of him. Things over the top, might be a little little strong. Fair is fair? I'm sorry, didn't go ahead. No, he does have some limitations and coverage, there's no question about that. He's more of a reliable run defender. That's more of the strength of his game. But I think what he can do on special teams. Just what's going to keep this player on the roster? Okay, well we're getting closed. Okay, as we go through the picks, Harry San Francisco's on the close ahead of Dallas. So let's see what happens with uh these picks. As we get closer at the forty forty Niners are picks in. So when the forty nine ers go in, that means the Cowboys will be in as well. Looks like he's talking to his guy. Okay, so if Jason Garrett is on the phone, we will see in fact what what transpires. Again, this might be a thing where they're thinking about guys like down the line, uh, you know, not having to fight for these particular guys in free agency. They might this is this is trying to clean up their board a little bit. And so we'll see in fact the forty nine ers selections in uh. And then and then the Cowboys. We we said, let's let's say this is six uh, this is six two. It is Excuna six two thirteen, and then we'd have New England excuse me, New England would be behind them. Seattle then would be on the clock, and then Dallas again at two sixteen. So let's see what transpires here with the Cowboys. Any ideas you want to throw some some guys at the Cowboys here anymore at two sixteen? Well, you know, he could talked about the Norfolk stake linebacker Dion King, a guy that showed a lot of interest in as a thirty visit. He could be in the mix here. What about a receiver? Yeah, do you know we want to go on offense and go with a Kenny law Lenahan on the phone right now? Yeah, well it's a it's an offensive player. Then for Will's handing it back. So looking at the top receivers on my board, Kenny Lawler, Sharon Peak, Yeah, uh, Devin could juice Roger Lewis. Um who else we got here? Berber just came off the board. Jalen Marshall from Ohio State. Yea, Daniel braverman Western Michigan. At that man, this thing, this whole thing with Waller just bothers the heck out of me. Kieris Garrett, Tulsa. Yeah, so a couple names there. What do you think about a tight end? Yeah, that's about about a tight end. I don't know, I mean that's uh. I'm just I'm just looking at me. I just I can't get over the whole Lawlord thing and they and and that. I think you know, did you said Garrett? Charis Garrett from Tulsa. He just going through my wide receivers, he said, could choose? You said? Uh, we talked about north A lot of different a lot of different things right there. So, um, who knows what directually say? Okay, the Patriots their selections in UH San Francisco. Okay, San Francisco went Aaron Burbridge from UH from Michigan State. He is off the board now for UH for the UH off the off the vote. He's gonna go to forty nine ers and now it's the Patriots. The Patriots selection is in, and let's see which way they go. Landon Roberts the linebacker from Houston and short, but he's not small, and he's a magnet the ball. Wherever that ball is, he's going to attack. And so he put together a strong senior season after a kind of riding the bench there for a little bit, stuck on the depth chart, he made the most of it. He had a terrific twenty fifteen season. Just FYI, I just, I mean, my math might be off because I'm terrible and I'm distracted. But Frasier was their first non Power five draftees since Nizacha in the seventh last year. So most of last year's draft and all and all of this year's draft until Frasier, and only three times since the twenty fourteen draft have they taken a non power five guy. That Ken Bishop from Northern Illinois, Marcus Lawrence from Boise, Nizacha, and uh and now Frasier. Yeah, so big time emphasis on the And Garrett loves, I mean, Garrett loves to talk about how he likes to see these guys go against the best of the best. Okay. So this yeah, this pick right here is now Seattle at two fifteen. They are right ahead of what Dallas is got going. Uh, and they will be Dallas back to back here on the clock at two sixteen and then two seventeen, so we will see in fact of what they do. Uh. It's it's turning in fast and furious. The war room is a buzz when you get back to back players like this and trying to make sure exactly how they line everything up and make sure that it goes in the right way so they don't have to, uh to mess with anything again. They're not gonna have a pick in the seventh round unless they try and jump back into this thing. Seahawks take Joey Hunt. Uh, the center from TCU that puts Dallas on the clock. Got Joe Loan Uh No, Steve Lonie, I'm sorry, okay, Joe Looney and Steve Okay, Well okay, there you go, Okay, Okay, he this this could be the second Okay who your tight ends? This is your tight ends guy right here now? Well maybe Phoenie, how about okay, tell me what you think that Bailey. Were you at Baylor Pro Day Huh. I kind of heard some whispers here say what I think you're gonna say? Rico Gathers. Oh oh, I like that a lot. Okay, I've heard no, no, I've heard say McGowan, no, no, no, Rico Gathers. Tell me about I tell me about what you think of a little bit about Rico Gathers right here. He's a power forward from the Baylor basketball team, hasn't played football since he was fourteen years old. But uh yeah, talk about a guy that translates in terms of athleticism in size. Uh. I'd love to see him, uh get a chance because you're looking at him. If the raft Rico Gathers, you're gonna hear Nick Eatman screaming from you think so from here? Yeah? Yes, Well with with Loni on the phone, I'm a little I'm a little yeah thinking about that. Maybe because I do that, does that satisfy your receiver need too? I mean that's what That's the type of tight end he's gonna be right. Yeah, I'm not throwing that guy out there to block am I. He's pretty big though, six kid. Yeah, you athletic though, yess. I'm saying, all right, we gotta figure out Dallas is Okay, we gotta figure out there. Okay, it picks in for the Cowboys. This is gonna be the first This is gonna be the first pick of of two at two sixteen. Uh, this is a compensatory pick. And then and then they're gonna have back to back. I could say we've seen we've seen offensive coaches on the phone. We saw Scott Lenahan on the phone earlier, and then we saw the tight ends coach on the phone. So if my guests, my guests, I think there canna go some position player. Uh, probably a skilled guy would go. Skill guy first, and then maybe maybe yeah, maybe this is a receiver. If if it is a tight end they're getting at the end, did they still get a receiver? Do you want both of those? I just I don't know. I'm just I'm kind of thinking of all the possibility. I think it's you know, I don't think they would put him on the phone. Yeah, I don't think they would put him on the phone if if there was something, if something, if it was like an offensive lineman or anything like you say, I don't think it's a lineman, Which is kind of surprising to me because I definitely would have thought that they would, yeah, address that at some point. Okay, well here we go. They're gonna they're gonna run this one across the bottom of the screen. Force and tell us. So the Cowboys again, offensive coaches were on the phones. Uh Loney coach Loni was the last one on the phone. And let's see it. We're just like everybody else waiting at pick six two sixteen to get this one done and we will see. What'll tell you what the NFL network needs to Darius jack Darius Jackson. Darius Jackson's not expecting that. No, I was not either. I'm a fan. Talk about Garius Jackson. Then Dave Burglar Eastern Michigan was not a combined guy. You know, he kind of went under the radar this past season playing for a program that's not very good. But this past year when over a thousand yards rushing built well for the NFL game, six foot two hundred twenty pounds ran a four to three at his pro day. Um, interesting that you gonna go running back twice here? Yeah, what does that tell me? What? Like, what type of running back is this guy? Because I'm a spit of hot take he's between the tackles. You know, power guy. I mean that's he's not because he's he's you know, six foot two hundred twenty pounds. Um. You know, he can be a pass catcher. He had combined for forty one catches last two years. He just has an NFL body, quick feet, body control and make sharp cuts again, reliable pass catcher. I think he has, you know, the makeup that you want. So he's, you know, the right kind of guy for this team. Okay, the Cowboys second pick in this pitstory round is in. It's two six Excube two seventeen. And we talked about with Lone Alfa, this is gonna be it, this is gonna be a tied end, and let's see if it's if Let's see if we got the right tied end with Rico Gathers, would be so cool. There is Yeah, yeah, good call, Brian. Yeah, I kind of hurt some whispers, maybe the that they went down there and did some work with them. So taking a player with some traits there. Dan Bruglen again a basketball player who he hasn't played football since he was fourteen years old, so this a little bit of a little bit of a conversion for him. But he has a projectable body tap at six seven, two hundred seventy one pounds. Uh, you know he's a four seven athlete. He can just look at the body control and you know he's has a sculpted frame. A lot of things that say he'll translate well, but you know, how does he how is he going to you know, run routes, how is he going to do catching the football. There's just so many details at the position that he's very raw at and so it's going to take some time. But they're showing basketball. He is a sculpted looking athlete though. Day You're absolutely right about that, Dave. Dave, did you get to see him? It was basketball season going on and he couldn't do it. Art Brile's fielded questions about him coming out for the team in the fall, right because nobody thought he would actually go pro. I did not see him at Baylor prode out. There were plenty of questions about him playing for Baylor. Everybody in Waco was really excited about the possibility of him playing for them. Um at the time, I don't think anybody knew for sure if you would come out and on I love this pick again, like why why not? Why why not? Maybe you find something and if you don't, half these guys, I'll make the team anyway. Yeah, the Cowboys back to back. Uh, they go Darius Jackson, who Dan gave you a little bit of a thumbnail on. Uh. He is a running back from Eastern Michigan. And then and then and then they backed that pick up with the right behind it to six two seventeen. Rico gathers again. You're looking for traits, You're looking for guys that, uh, you know, might to translate into to the game new see. I understand these types of picks. I understand. I understand when you're at six and you're just looking for something to hit on, you know, you you might find a guy here. This might be this. This is one of those things that you know this this this works in my mind. This is it said you give a second round guy for we gonna pick for a guy that, yeah, sure he might be a Pro Bowl player one day. Yeah, but he might not play. This guy might not play, but at least you know you can you can maybe work with him and get him to play. I'm gonna hop back because Derek asked me to on Twitter. Uh, I meant I had a hot running back take. Yeah, and it kind of plays along with that. I mean, it's a sixth round pick. There's no there's no guarantee that Jackson makes this team, right, But at the same time, I don't I'm obviously Ezekul Elliotts spot on. This team is secure, right, I'd say so. I don't think that they're that concerned if they have to part ways with any of these other guys, though, well, I think again, it's we've talked about this a bunch. The two year the bridge player I mean is Darren McFadden. I don't think that you can say, I don't think you can sit here on April Day first or whatever it does and say that Darren McFadden is safe, And honestly I think that I think that actually Alfred Morris is more safe because of the two year deal. Trying to get to the next deal. Is Lance Dunbar's job safe. I mean he might have to start the season on Pop anyway. That kind of changes things, right, That's not a deal that you just absolutely can't afford to say like, Okay, well, hey we washed it. I mean, let me tell you this so real quick. We had to be interested to see how that is, particularly if this kid's any good. Kevin Seymour, the quarterback from USC went to the Buffalo Bills and Will Parks and then Will Parks goes right behind him to the Denver Broncos. On that. So back to the running back Darius Jackson, and very little was expected of him this year. Uh. You know, he had a total of five hundred and eight rushing yards to his name entering the two fifteen season, but he won the starting job, started all twelve games, and he set a new school record for touchdowns of sixteen, had over a thousand yards of rushing. It really had that breakout year, earned an invite to the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl, and really put together a draftable resume. And so I think when you look at the makeup, the measurables, the traits, it's all there for him to you know, be a quality NFL running back. His run instincts, his vision, those kind of run hot and cold. I think he needs to develop those a little more. Um you know, if he's going to can he play some special teams. So I think there's a lot of ability here and you know, a little surprising to see him come off the board ahead of some of these other running backs, you know, guys like Daniel Lasco, even a Keith Marshall. But Carson from A and M was right. Yeah, but nonetheless, I think he's a very good player. Who Yeah, I think you could make this roster because he's an ascending type of player. Okay, well we are now officially let's see, maybe I'm wrong about that. No, we're not quite yet. We still have some uh sorry, some compensior. We were talking to this conversation, some very good conversation about running backs. Pittsburgh still got they got a pick. Let's see, they took Travis Feeny, linebacker from Washington, and then New England at New England has not taken New England's right behind them at pick two twenty one. But uh, I'm interested, you know, I'm very interested though in this this Rico gathers thing. I'm very interested. Well, you know, for the longest time we talked about the physical marvel, the guy that you know walked off the bus first from Baylor being Sean Oakman. Yeah, but this is a guy who thought about try going out for the football team with Art Bryle's next year decided against it. He has a family, he has a young child. He wanted to come out now and you know, try to give this NFL think a chance. And here he is getting drafted in the sixth round. And he's got a chance. Because if you're drafting a guy like this who hasn't played football and uh you know eight years, you understand her. He needs work, right, and so you're gonna be patient with him. Absolutely. Okay. Well we're joined here by Caban Frazier from uh fit's back safety from Tramission. Welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. Hey how you doing? Hey, hey do I'm happy to be a Cowboy? Thank you? It's You're with with with Brian and Dane and Dave from a Dallas Cowboys dot com. We've been covering this draft from pick one to uh actually we're trying to get to pick two fifty three, but here you are selected for the Dallas Cowboys at pick two twelve. Talk about the journey to this point for you, and again, how excited you are to be a member of the Dallas Cowboys. Yes, sir, um, yeah, the journey was just crazy. Um. You know, my junior year, I went from from being like a partial backup parts of starter and then my senior year that's when I have my breakout year, and that's that's when I actually got a full time starting spot. So and I was basing my breakout year. And then after you know, after the season, that's that's when I went into combine mode and start training. I went down to Florida, UM and start training for the combine and everything like that in Pro Day and then it was kind of stressful because because like at that moment, I had to switch agents and stuff too, so it was like, oh, that was all stressful. And then I went to combine figured out UM that is that I had a stretch faction in my foot, so they wouldn't even let me work out of the combine. So that was extra stress that was just on me around that time that I really didn't need. But but you know, you know, I just believed, and you know, I'm a strong believer, and everything happened for a reason. So and then after that, you know, I had to get a secondar teams from my foot and you know, I'm spared all, I'm all clear now. So I did Pro Day and I did really good at Pro Day. That's when I actually got in touch with the Cowboys College with a couple of cowboys goes and and man, I'm just so grateful for this opportun tooan to be a cowboy. And man, I can't wait to get down there. It came on. You touted really well the pro day with fury and the jumps. Uh, how do you feel about you know, your your foot. Is any any worries about that moving forward? Or do you feel one hundred percent? Oh? Oh no, there's no worries at all. Um, I feel one hundred percent even going into the combine. I never had pain, So I was you know, I was, I was training all the way. You know, I was praying for the combine. Uh, I had I was traying about one hundred percent for the combine. So I never had pain. But and then recently, you know, I kept going back for like rechecks for my doctors back here, and then I went to to the official medical recheck for the combine and and they in overall they just told me that it's just scarred, like like it's scarred from a preview injury. Right, But but they said it's held up one hundred percent. So I don't have no worries about that at all? Whatso other congratulations. First of all, I'm sure you know this. Going going through the draft process, people love to to make player comparisons. The one I actually right on you was was Bury Church, who has been a tackle machine for about three years down here in Dallas. Um. I just hoping you could kind of share with us, uh the strength of your game and what Cowboys fans can hope to see from you when when you get onto a field here. Yes, sir man, I've always been saying a very church, you know, bringing card um by Byron Jones, you know, all the secondary over over in Dallas. So so I'm really happy and really excited it's to come in and and be uh playing with them and learning and learning from them. Is because I know they're like bet now, So I'm really excited to get under one of their wings and really uh take in all the input that they give me. Um um. As far as my strength, um, I would definitely say my passion for the game's definitely one of my strength. I definitely can say you can see that on the field when I play. Uh you can you can see that because uh I lift everybody else just from like one bighead or or it's just in leadership wise. Um. And another strength that I would say is my tackle ability. Um, this year I was able to have like one hundred and hay tackles, not too many mistackles. So so I definitely say my tackling ability and as far and as well with that, you know, my versatility. Uh. My first two years of college I actually played strong safety, and in my last two years I played prete safety. Um, um, I'm assuming they're gonna put me a strong safety and in the NFL. But but um, you know I can do whatever. And also I was a starter on pun return, kick kickoff and kick return all through my years. So so so uh, my versatility is definitely a strength of mind that I have. Okay, thank you so much for taking time. Absolutely, but we really appreciate man. You're just a super bright guy, a fierce hitter. We we love to watch you play. Looking forward to having you here in Dallas and say we'll see you in a few days. I've seen a few days and uh, and and look forward to meeting your face and face you take care and enjoy this day. Okay, Yes, sir, I'm looking forward to coming down to Dallas and you know, giving him a hole and being a cowboy. There you go, thank you so much. Okay, he came on Frasier the safety from UH from Central Michigan. He you know, he's talking about it. He does, He'll he'll hit you. He's not afraid. Hey se him as a strong safety. That's kind of what they were thought talking about right there. I'm not literally going to stand up on the table. But enough of the enough of the buried church slander. If this guy is another buried church, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, he's not Ed Reid. He's not a pick machine what he's I know right not at Reid. He's not he's not gonna get eight picks. And he's not amazing in coverage. But there is a role for a good box safety in the NFL. Dang it, you can get just listen to him talk. I mean you could sell. He's he's all in. I mean, he's gonna put everything he has to be the best that he can be and we'll see what that ends up being. If that, can he start you know, can he push for starting reps? Can he be a guy maybe down the road that you can rely on as as the replacement to a buried church. We'll have to see how it plays out, but in the sixth round, I really like the value. Okay, well, here we go. We're into the seventh round. Now Dallas does not have a pick. Maybe he could have take the halls again, maybe some tweets. I'm gonna leave y'all to it. I figured they've probably got things that I can probably do. They get a lot of picks and we will. Um, but I hope y'all get to talk to Rico Gathers. That sounds really exciting. Yeah. Um, I'll probably turn this on, tell Nick to come down here and talk about Ricco. That's actually a great idea. Great, I will do that. Yeah, we'll probably get him on the phone too. It's been a fantastic gentleman, happy draft. I'll talk to you all soon. Okay, there goes David and he's just gonna throw equipment on the ground. Nobody really cares much about the equipment here today. Sorry, Yeah, there you go. Uh. David Hellman never makes an ex quiet exit. It's always very ungraceful. Okay. We're into the seventh round. The Tennessee Titans at pick two twenty two takes Eron take Aaron Wallace, linebacker from UCLA. The Cleveland Browns didn't take Brandon Doherty, all right, so Dowdy I miss his name up, I'm sorry Brown. Brandon Dowdy, quarter quarterback off the board. Yeah, the quarterback from Western Kentucky. He goes to Uh that would be Miami would take him. I had that pick going to at Cleveland. I camp swap seventh round for Jamar Taylor. There you go, that's what you're talking about. Okay, So this is uh Dowdy, He's the pick to the Dolphins at two twenty three. San Diego then turns around and takes Donovan Clark, a guard from Michigan State. I'm looking at here's the h this is a seattle from Dallas to New England. Uh. Devin Lucien, the wide receiver from Arizona to UCLA transferred. Uh. You know, player that tested really well. He kind of went under the radar a little bit. I didn't see a draftable player. But you know here in the seventh I mean, there's better wide receivers on the board. Right. You can't convince me that Kenny Lawler is not a better player. That's just but something going on there about Yeah, New England preferred. Uh you know that this player and you know it's interesting. But Jonathan Woodard another defensive end off the board now of Jacksonville right uh from Central Arkansas, Central Arkansas exactly right. So then that means my AMMI is on the clock, I believe here at or maybe Denver's on the clock. I'm losing track of my picks here right now, but uh, Denver would be on the clock here at pick uh two twenty seven. Can't you said? We got some callers lineups. Let's go do those. Let's go to Roscoe in Midland. Roscoe, what's up? Hey? If you could uh pull out your Christal ball for me, please and tell me what their thoughts are on this running back that they just drafted someone out the door or is this guy just a can't body to help with the Okay, thank you for the car, Roscoe. I think they're taking a chance on these traits. Yeah, you know a guy again, you know he's a one year wonder. He emerged as a senior, had a solid year over a thousand yards a new school record sixteen touchdowns. He tested off the charts at four or three at at six foot two hundred and twenty pounds. Uh, you know, and we'll see, if you know, how can he contribute on special teams? You know, can he carve out a role on this roster. It's going to be an uphill climb for him to make the final roster. But you know, when you have these type of traits, you can't rule it out. Could he supplant Darren McFadden in the backfield? You can't rule anything out at this point. What do you think, Briany, do you think, yeah, he could possibly bump one of these other running backs off the depth chart. That's that's the thing that I that's the thing that I don't know. Again, it's in the always as a scout, was always taught um that if you in the six seventh rounds, you're looking for trades and you talked about one year, wonder a little bit though, you know, they evaluate obviously it's the speed. If anything. It's like, you know, let's let's be honest. There's a hurt running back in Dunbar. There's a there's a guy with age a little bit of age and McFadden that they drafted Zeke to do what he's gonna do. Zeke's gonna be your starter one day, but you're gonna have to find a way. They ran a lot of running backs through here last year and couldn't find the right guy. So they draft Zeke thinking Zeke's a guy. But they're not married to McFadden. They're not gonna be married to Alfred Morris at some point in time too, So maybe you do. Maybe you hit in the sixth round. You hit a guy that if he doesn't make the roster, okay, we keep him around. They've they've kept guys around far less players on the practice squad to do to do jobs. So well, let's see what they what they have right there? Okay, Ken, what do you got? Chandler in Arizona? Chandler Arizona. That's always actually Oklahoma. Oh it's Chandler in Oklahoma. So okay, Chandler's what you got? Yeah, I'd just like to know what you guys would grade this draft, and then also kind of explain a little bit how the priority free agency works. Um, how do they convince these guys to come to Dallas over other places? Is it just a depth chart thing or is it offering them more money or just kind of explain how that process works. Hang up, just listen, Thank you, Thank you. I never graded draft. I'll tell you why. I had a scout one time. Tell me on my way out of Philadelphia that I had the worst draft in the history of the National Football League. Two days after I had the draft, and then two years three years later, four of the eight picks made the Pro Bowl. That guy told me I had the worst draft in the history of National Football League. And that was a scout. So again, I'm not trying to skirtch your question. There's some picks that I really really like. I like that that that Prescott pick. I understand about the Janleen Smith. I don't particularly like the pick because I think they needed defensive help now. But if he turns out to be a Pro Bowl All Pro player comes in here plays mic linebackers, great, I'll eat my words on that. But I mean, I again, I have a little bit of an issue taking that Highway pick out. There's some people said, oh, they were gonna use the second round pick. There's people in the draft I think this team needed some defensive help. Did they take a couple of guys around early that I might have, you know, with MALIEK. Collins. Tapper, you know, Big Kat sat here right here and said, well, Tapper, you know this is what we think about it. You watch him play at Oklahoma. He's not the same looking guy that they probably think he's gonna be. But again, you know some guys, I you know, the whole thing with the running back. I can understand with that Rico Gathers, I understand that. Right there's too You're taking a chance on some guys, right there? Is it one of those drafts where went bang bang bang bang, you know, took every pick, Like to me, Jacksonville, Jacksonville has a great draft on paper. But if Jacksonville goes out him it's five and eleven next year and gets their coach fired, what good's a great draft? We've seen great drafts and sit in Saint Louis before. Well, not saying this now the rams La rams and what is that guy Jeff Fisher? You know it got him. You know it's he's seven and nine to eight and native here. So you know, give this draft some time on the grade wise, if it bus, it bus, the GM's not going anywhere. And everybody's probably saying, well, that's probably the problem. But the GM did win executive the year two years ago, you know, for a twelve and fourth season. Let's see how in fact this thing all plays out. And to the colors other question about the free agents and how that works. And that's what a lot of scouts are doing right now, is they're on the phone with these coaches exactly recruiting these guys, I mean, promising everything from you know, a spot on the depth chart to their firstborn child. Whatever it takes. You know, they're going to try and convince, uh and convince these guys. You know, put your mom on the phone, We'll talk to her. Yeah, we'll commit your mom, this is the right place to come. Whatever it takes. You know that that's what it's going to that they're going to do. Um. And it's a situation where these guys are still hoping to be drafted here in the seventh round, absolutely, but they're getting these calls where they're being recruited to be a free agent. Let me tell you this, though, to be honest with you, getting picked in the seventh round might not be a good thing if you if you're a guy, if you're for example, if you're a lawlor right now, getting picked in the seventh round. Does you know good psychologically you were drafted. But he could sit there and say, you know what, I'm gonna sit there and pick what team I want to go to exactly. He could look at the other team's depth chart and say, you know what, Garrett's the same way the kid from Tulsa. You know, if someone thinks enough of him, it could be like, don't get drafted, you know, don't get drafted the seventh round. Be able to pick what you know? You could look at another team's depth chart. The money can be involved, money involved, highest bidder. Go to a place where you got a shot to make this team. Don't go to somewhere where they're taking it just to be a guy, and all of a sudden now you're having to fight to be on the team. Do you think there's anything to Some people will argue that with well, if they if they draft you, there's more invested. You know, it's it's easier to cut a priority free agent where it is than it is to cut a seventh rounder because they invested a draft picking. Do you think there's I've seen the cut third rounders before those two. You know you're not wrong. So if you're good enough to make a team, you're good enough to make a team. Okay, Ken, who do we got Anthony and Minnesota? Anthony? Go ahead, Hey, guys, first and forth. I want to say a great job again this year with the draft Coverridge, excellent show. Appreciate that. Thank you, sir. Since we've made our last pick here and I feel pretty comfortable to selections, especially today, I thought Grabvin Prescott was big for US. Um what position group or there's they're a handful of players that you see, Um the Cowboys looking at as far as priority free agents, go moving forward. Thank you very much to call. Okay, this is the idea, this is how it works. It worked with Tony Romo. Explain how it is. Tony Romo had a grade on our board as a fifth round grade. Did not draft Tony Romo. Get Bill Parcels on the phone. Get Jerry Jones on the phone. Now we're recruiting priority free agents. First thing you're gonna do is take the guys that are on your draft board. If they get through the seventh round here and there's two to three, four or five six names whatever, those guys have immediately become the priority free agents. You go, we recruit those guys. Now they're in a difficult situation right now because they don't have a seventh round pick, so they're they're working on you know, they're calling these kids, like Dane said, and you're saying you're selling them, you're selling hey, listen, if you don't get picked, we want you. But you're gonna look at those guys that are on the draft board first. That the position though, I would think about, you know, how you know, how does you know? How does the things? How do things play out? Maybe like a you know we talked about Gathers was a tight end. Maybe they go get a real tight end receiver, another receiver. Yea, they haven't had a receiver drafted this year. Maybe they go after a few of those. Does Derek Dooley go out and get Marques Nor exactly? He recruited Marques North to Tennessee. Does he go out and get a big body guy Marques North? We draft, We mocked draft him too at six eighty nine, I think on during the thing. So so that's kind of where that's gonna play out. So we'll see a wide receiver. Uh maybe you never have enough of those. Uh, those especially with suspensions those defensive line. There might be some kids that they that they brought in and you tell them that hey are starting two defensive ends might not be we might not be with us the first four game, absolutely right right there. So okay, that we've got all right? Can't what else you got? Steve and DC? You're up, Steven, Brian? How he going? This is Steve. I've been off real to the last two trips to DC and you get to take me up on it? Yeah, well, I think, yeah, I don't go. I don't go to DC much anymore, but they're gonna make me go to DC in week two, so I might take you up on it. What do you got, man? I think that from the great Draft. I'm a big fan of daktrust I've been blowing your Twitter off about him for weeks now, and uh, I'm glad to see that fit finally in. I really didn't understand the tight end take at the end of the drafts that traits. It's all about traits. Hey, thank you much for the call. I'm gonna take up on those ribs one day. I got a crew of Dallas Cowboys dot Com guys, so I'm gonna need a bunch on them up, a bunch of slabs of ribs. If we can do that. Uh, we talked about it. It's traits. Yeah at this point. I mean, how many starters come out of the sixth round? Not many? But if you ever did, and Davis, if you have a chance to get a guy that you can work with right you know, has the traits, just needs coached up, well then you know, and Rico Gathers is not going to make an impact on this team in two and sixteen. It's not going to happen, right, but two years from now, three years from now, where he could be in his development. You know, it's intriguing. And so you know exactly. I think you just summed it up. You take the traits and you coach up the rest. Yeah, well that's that's exactly right. Let me go back and recap. There's a couple of guys that we had on our board, just to give you an idea. We're picked two thirty one. We haven't forgot to drap, but we want to get to your calls. That's important to us right now before we get out of here. Uh we Uh. DeMarcus Airs goes at seven two twenty nine to the Pittsburgh Steelers Houston guy. We we've talked about him some love speed speed, speed, speed, that's kind of his thing. Screen plus, unless he makes an impact as a punt returner, I have a hard time seeing him holding onto a roster spot very long. But my two cents on him. But the next guy that was drafted, Daniel Braverman. Put him in the slot. Let him just do work. I think he could really be a guy right there as an inside receiver. I mean, if Cool Beasley can do what he's doing, I think Daniel Braverman can do something similar. Okay, and we're still we're a pick two thirty one that has uh let's see here that two three one that's miamis Dart Tomas Duarte, the wide receiver should be tied end. They listed him as a tied end here with and he probably is. He's a big slot is what he is. You know, he's a guy that he's a little bit of a tweeter, rocked up receiver, undersized ten to end, however you want to describe him. But he does work between the hashes. Let him go over the middle of the field, let him run down the scene. He has some body control of the ball skills to uh to make an impact there. I'm surprised he lasted this long, to be honest with you, I thought he'd be off the board somewhere in the in the fifth round or so. But Miami's getting good value. Yeah I did. I had him as a fifth round. I had him. Could juice Those kinds of guys used a little villable exactly, So we'll probably see could juice go here? Okay, so we're waiting for the redskins. Pick is gonna go in? We go, kit You got some more calls when we lined up. We have calls. We're gonna hit some secret audio were audio Jackson right here? Okay, just turns your card. Yes, we've just turned your card in here to be a Dallas cowboy. We've just draft. Oh my god, well listen, we're excited. Oh my god. Well, hey, there's congratulation you had for your accomplishment in your career. But now then you're getting ready to get down to business. And I know you know that, but we're glad you're a cowboy. Hey, I'm ready to go to work. I thank you, you bet you bet well. Here I want to hand you to Jason Garrett, our coach, congratulations again for being a Cowboy. I'm gonna tell you it's a great feeling to be a Dallas Cowboy. One. Oh, I really I feel it right now. All right, man, here's coach Jason. Get serious. How are you doing. I'm doing great? Congratulations, Thanks, co I'm excited and I'm an excited. Well, it's an exciting day. It's an exciting day for you and for us, so excited to get you here. We feel like you got a lot of a lot of ability and we're excited to see it out on that football field. Man, I'm ready to get to work. Really. Okay, congratulations, look forward to seeing you. Thank you. Okay, that was awesome. That was I mean, he was, he was, he was. That's what it's all about right there, and so and the next one would be here is Rico Gaithers. Rico Gaithers, Rico, Jerry Jones. We just turned your card in to draft you for the Dallas Cowboy. Hey, Rico, Hey, Hey Rico. So Rico. I've congratulations to you and your family, and I guarantee you it feels good to be a cowboy. I can tell you I've been one a long time, but we're glad to have you on the team. And I want our coach Jason Garrett to welcome you to the team. Definitely, really appreciated coach. You bet, you bet, here's coach Garrett. Rico. Yeah, how are you doing. I'm doing all right? Congratulations? Yeah, I appreciate you. You ready to play some football? Being ready? Okay? Good. We're excited to get to know you a little bit. Okay, all right, yeah, okay, talk to you soon. Here we go and uh, just just on que perfect timing is the man who can talk to us about Rico Gathers. And we just heard the secret audio and he was, you know, he thought he might to get a call from the Dallas Mavericks. Instead it was the said it was the Dallas Cowboys, said Nick eat Men, who uh who has He's an outstanding connection with Baylor football. He had us for a long time. He's an author, an author of books about the Baylor program, about Art Briles. If there's anybody that knows anything about Baylor football. Uh, and I early in this process, we asked you about Billings and you were you were very honest about that. But now we bring in here you talk about Rico a little bit. Well, you know, obviously I don't have as much connections with their basketball team, but but you know, this is a question that actually bothered Art Briles for a couple of years because everyone's like, oh, look at him, he needs to be playing football, and he you know, Art kind of laughs it off, but he's like, you know, we actually have football players on our on our team. You know, we don't just go get big, strong guys. But the thing about Rico you watch him play, he plays with the attitude you want for a football player on the court. I mean, he goes, he gets every rebound, he kind of fill fight his teammates, pushing and shoving a little bit. He's just got that snarley attitude that goes out, I'm gonna get every board, I'm gonna get every you know, get every point, be in the in the paint. And so I think it's gonna take time, but I think that at least he's got that attitude. You know, he's got the body for it. And then now we'll see if he's got the ability to do that. But as a blocker, as a tough guy, I think he can learn and develop that. Yeah, talk about a power forward. I think he's ever been, you know, the power part watching just him, you know, play the game of basketball, real emotional player. You know, he plays with his heart on his sleeve. And sometimes it might take it a little too far, but you know, you like to see that intensity, that temperament. You need to have that competitive drive if you're gonna be in line, if you're going to go up against NFL defensive lineman. So yeah, he's got the building blocks to uh, you know, we talk about the traits got, you know, things you can build off of and develop. So you know, the foundation is there. Every sport says that you know, we're gonna go out there, we're gonna hit him in the mouth. I'm sure they say it in baseball. Well you do it in Foah. Yeah, you get hit in the mouth thirty seven times a game, you know, and that's kind of part of it. And you're right, he's the one that probably likes to deliver those blows as much as anyone does. He is he gonna go and be Antonio Gates. I mean, let's let's hold off on that. Talk about the athletic ability though, Yeah about him, I mean, is he's you know, and that's one thing. You watch some of those highlights, they're showing fadeaways and and and layups and stuff, and I'm like, okay, you know, let's let me see how he you know, how he goes and gets the boards and dunks and stuff like that. Dave you joining us, No, da. He always makes an entrance and then an exit, and it's always like disturbing. I think Gary's about to talk here. Yeah, but you're right about the athletic ability. He's the type of guy that that's going to um find, you know, get into the right way, get in the positions because he rebounding. You know, obviously this is the position show. But who's the greatest rebounder of all time in our generation? Rodman? Yeah, Robin's not the biggest guy in the world. He just wanted it more than anyone else. You gotta be kind of craziest will be and he, you know, he was definitely that right and this guy went out and he led. I think he led the nation rebound this year, maybe two years, but I don't know that for a fact, but I know that he was one of the top rebounders for the last two years. Well, we have you here though, and thank you for that insight. On Rico guests, talk about a little bit about what you've seen though from the draft we had. This is the first time we had an opportunity to talk to you all. We all understand. Yeah, we all understand. Just yeah, we all we all understand. We all understand the pick. We understand what is Zekiel it is. Talk about Jalen Smith though, I mean it give us a little bit different perspective or maybe the same perspective of what you think this is going to overall be. At my kids soccer game this morning, I got asked the question why would they take a player who is not going to be ready to play this year and I and my answer is is because they think when he is ready to play, he could be the best player in the draft. And that's the only except. I mean, that's the reason why you do it. I mean, there's why everything you do with this risk reward and he's a huge reward if it works, and we've seen second round picks that don't work and they're one hundred percent healthy. I just think that they're always looking for upside and and he's got the ability to do that. They trust the doctor because he did the surgery. I don't think they do it without that, and they trust this rehab team to bring people back. Then you don't pay the I don't know what they make, but you don't pay big bucks to the Jim Mauers and Browns of the world. If they don't, you don't expect them to kind of get this thing turned around. And and and it's not like they're just not doing their due diligence. I mean they passed on Miles Jack Yeah, for him. You know, as some players work, some players don't. So I think what I've said all weekend, they took a guy that helps them tomorrow and Ezekiel Eliott, they take a guy that helps them next year. And Jay Lensman. It's been a risky type draft. You know, they're taking risks. It's it's it's I've said this before, Nick, it's a it's a draft where the general manager has job security and he has since nineteen eighty nine, you know, and and and you know this, but he did win Executive of the Year two years ago, you know, and that was something that he you know, you talked about his Super Bowl accomplishments and when in that I was with with the Senior Bowl when that was announced, and he couldn't have been more proud about that. But again, I questioned a little bit about this team, and we've talked about this that maybe he thinks it's not a it was not a four and twelve team. That's more likely a twelve and four team, you know, So that's if you general general manager would not make that call, right unless he had the security no one, you know what, I can wait on this guy, you know, and no one has told me this. This is just my personal belief that last year you stole a first round pick, you thought you stole two and Randy Gregory and maybe you will, but right now it's hard to really count on him. But Lyle Collins, you stole one, right this year, maybe you're gonna steal another one and Jaylen Smith and it takes a two to get there. But it's almost like you, you know, hey, you got good talent coming into this team with Byron Jones and Lyle Collins and maybe Gregor if he can, you know, keep keep himself on the field. But but Jalen Smith, I think he's just another guy. Jerry's not afraid to do that. No, he's not. And again that's because of the job. He got the job security because okay, we're watching their team play though we were thinking defensive help. Yeah, I mean you're thinking defensive and evidently Oba was going to be the guy and that, you know, so that kind of kicked him in the rear a little bit right there, though, Have they done enough and what you've seen defensively so you feel a little bit better. So you and I aren't doing those postgame press conference SAMs from Tampa where you look at me and you go listen here, salty mcsalty. You know you're just as mad as I am right now about what has happened out there. But you feel better about that, you feel I feel better And I'm gonna steal your own your own theory here at this point in the draft, I'm sure you've said the words several times about traits and you look at guys what they have, and so how can they help him this year? What do these guys do to help um Tapper? Yeah, you know, I think he's a guy that comes in. I know you've talked about him. I think he comes in and he'll be on third down and he'll rotational guys. The cat said, yation guy, and he's got some length to him. He's gonna have some spark and all that. It doesn't go off the field a whole lot. I didn't think he played a lot. So you know, played in high competition and he played in the league that throws the ball around. Yeah, a lot. So I think I think he helps them. Um and I think the big guy from Nebraska College, Yeah, the same thing. But to me, when you look at this team, when you look at the Browns, I'm sorry to throw them out there, but because but they're similar. But looking for right, but you're looking at their guys and you're thinking he's playing, he's playing. He's playing. The fact that the Cowboys, the fact that really not a four and twelve team is that they're getting second and third, fourth round guys that are going to be contributing. This team's got some talent. We know that they just got to get their quarterback to stand out for sixteen weeks into that quarterback, Dak Prescott. Before you get out of here, hey, you know, I was asked a lot of questions. I had to look at Dane's stuff. The one hundred and eleven touchdowns is impressive to me, you know, and he's not. And also the twenty nine and five making smart decisions twenty one touchdowns, five interceptions. Um, you know there's something about taking in the always say this about Romo. You know, you can say, well, Romo is not this, He's not Danny White or whatever. No, Romo is the face of this franchise. He has been the guy that gets all the blame. It's all on Tony good or bad. Yeah, in a smaller level, that's what it was. Michigan a mission, Misissippi State. You know, he just kind of elevated that whole program to be a number one team in the country. And I think there's something to be said for a guy that says, you know what, I'll take it all it's bad, I'll take it. I think it's like Johnny Manziel's second year at A and M. Everyone said, well he wasn't as good. Yeah, you know, it's pretty good. It just went Heisman, Dak Prescott was pretty good. That their team wasn't as good. Oh he didn't. There some times where he didn't get some help. There's and I think he's in a situation where he'll develop and and and he said the word developed. Now have they developed a quarterback? They haven't. They haven't, and they haven't really tried a lot. And I also said this all the time, this is the opposite. If you're gonna get me a guy to develop, make sure he didn't get bench his senior year like McGee. Yeah, okay, at least Dak Prescott give me a Heisman Trophy candidate ball, you know, Niki. Thank you so much, guys, Sir Nick even on Dallas Cowboys going to the bathroom and all we're we're hanging in. We got almost there, we got wait, we had we're two Uh what are we at now? Two thirty seven? We'll tea we're doing. Thank you, guys. Nick even Dallas Cowboys dot Com always encourage you to read his work. He's got a lot of good stuff. Brian Waiting on a press conference here, Okay, the fans can see it in their window there, but we'll go live to that as so. Okay, Jerry walks in, Okay, Kik Garrison, who's been doing an outstanding job of keeping us online. Uh he and Douglas, Uh, we do you got a call for me? Kn't man? Well? Dustin In Pennsylvania. Who's been holding Okay, Dustin, go ahead, what do you got man? I just want to get you guys some credit. You guys have done a fabulous job. Dame and Brian, thank you much, great, thanks, thank you, oh you guys. Man, seriously, thank you. M really risky in my opinion. If it pays off, you know, WI player, he does, I'm sorry, thank you so much. We'll get to that. I appreciate we got the press conference going up. I did mean to cut you out there, and you're right about the risky pick. Here we go with Jerry Jones the press conference. They're settling in right now here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett settling in for the press conference for post draft bring it to you live here in Dallas Cowboys dot guys. In general, we uh, we're pleased with our third day and that's what we'll discuss with you or these picks that that we've made today. We've already visited with you about Collins or Smith. If you have a question about Elliott Collins, Smith or Collins and feel free to answer them. But having said that, won't we go ahead and just ask the questions that you might at one of either of us. Is the discussion that eventually led to a press Scott, Well, he was on our board and he's someone that we liked. We got to know him. Wade Wilson went down and worked him out Mississippi State. We hid him into our building. We spent a lot of time with him, and we spent a lot of time with a number of the different quarterbacks and uh, you know, you go down and you figure out where you want to put those guys on the draft board, and when it comes time to pick one of those names, Uh, it's a very thoughtful process that leads you there. And obviously we valued the quarterback position. We feel like we wanted to get a young, developmental guy in here, and uh, you know, he was a guy that we really liked as a person. We liked him a lot as a player, highly endorsed by everybody at Mississippi State. His career speaks for itself and there's a lot to like about this guy. So developmental quarterback that we think is going to fit in well to our system. Him as a player, Oh, I think you have to look at his production first and what he did down there, won a lot of games at Mississippi State. You know, uh, he and others took that team with the number one ranking in the in the country for a short period of time. And you know, again, if you ask a lot of people there, coaches players, he's just one of those guys that they feel as a great and tangible qualities and you know, a great leader positively impacts everybody there. Has played big in big games and just done a lot of really good things on the field. Physically, he's big, he's strong, he can throw it, he can run, He's a very experienced player. Again, he's developmental from the standpoint that he's going to be young and he has to learn, you know, how we want to do things. But there are a lot of tools there and there a lot of great character qualities that you love. Jerry and Stephen, you clearly like several of the quarterbacks that you invested a lot of time in looking at it in this draft at Axton Lynch and Connor Cook there at the top of the fourth and then Prescott, can you talk about wanting to come out of this draft with the young developmental guy where you convinced that out of the group that you saw that there was someone here work investing angling forward. Yeah, I think we got real comfortable with the group of quarterbacks. Obviously, the Scots have put a lot of work into it, and then Jason and Wade and Scott all jumped in, and you know, we did a lot of work on these guys, and you know, when it was all said and done, we had some guys we liked better than others, and uh, you know, we worked hard a couple of times to get a couple of guys we didn't get and then uh, as it worked out, we did get Dac And you know, as Jason said, there were a lot of qualities in uh Dak that we may have liked more than uh, you know, some of the guys we were working on earlier. So we feel real good about getting this guy. And uh, you know, there's a lot of things he has that some of the other guys didn't. And we'll just see what happens. That's part of the process, and I'm sure he'll be ready to go to work with uh, you know, with what we have here with Keelan and Tony and Showers. So we've got a good group for me. I'd like to say that I've wanted because we were so focused in on it, it became apparent to me that to be here when Romos here is a way of an opportunity for the development of a young quarterback and how to fit that in with the dynamics of what we hope is a healthy Romo for the most part over the next several years, as well as have the young quarterback exposed to some of the positives that I think he'll get. We've got a great coaching staff back here for quarterbacks. Jason of course is quarterback in the National Football League, a player and understands it as far as my opinion is, understands the position as well as anybody there is in pro football. You've got Wade Wilson, You've got also you've got Lenahan that all really have quarterback experience and have been around them all their lives. That with Romo just a great chance for a quarterback. So this year was important to start, if you will, down the road of developing a young quarterback down the line was a little less problematic than if you had gone with the first pick, because you have not only did what you sacrificed in your value. If your pick or if you will, players for right now to win now with Romo, but it also might have presented something problematic three or four years down the road that maybe this will take a different, different bit. So all of that motivated me to really have her eye on as we moved through the values. As we went down the board looking at the position, we don't tweak to you all about the basketball player we go gathers coming a tight end. Well, obviously the last pick that we had, it was the fourth of our four sixth round picks, and he's a guy that came on the radar here recently, and he's just very impressive physically. You know, he's he's six feet seventy's two hundred and seventy plus pounds, has not played a lot of football in his life. But you know, when Steve Loney went to the workout to see him, he was impressed with him and clearly he's determined to do this. And so we just felt, you know, at the bottom of our draft, we felt like this was a worthwhile opportunity for us to take a shot at somebody. And it seems like he has a lot of really good traits as an athlete and his style as a basketball players one where is very physical, prolific rebounder. We felt like that could translate clearly, he's a developmental player, but if he turns into something, you know, it might be something that you really like. Jerry just talk about Dak learning under Tony. How much can Rico learn under Well? I am. We can go into that, But first of all, everybody can learn as a player, and I can learn being around Jason Whitton. I think, including commissioners, owners, coaches, everybody in the NFL. He's one of the top five people I've been around in the NFL, and so you can learn a lot being around him. Obviously, he has no peer as far as his game and his practice and how he plays through obstacles such as pain, So all of that, He'll be in the meeting room with him, He'll be out at the practice in close proximity to him. He'll get a better advantage than everybody will on the team. But everybody, all of these young guys, plus some of us that are going into our final game days, can learn from Jason. What are your well will? I'm gonna let Jason talk about what the thing that impressed me the most was played at that high competition. His speed little bit, he'll be in a different really as far as his technique, he'll be in a different situation here. But that size, that speed was impressive and I was glad he was there. I just really like him athletically. We feel like he's certainly a defensive end candidate for us and a right end candidate pass rush guys. An outstanding athlete, a lot of basketball in his background growing up, and we do think the way that we play, the scheme that we run in the style of defense that we have a really feature some of the physical traits that he has and it plays the right way. It seems like an outstanding character guy. Leon Lett went up there and spent some time with him, and you know, we really feel like he has a chance to be a good football player for us. Excited that he was there at the top of the fourth force here being to suit his abilities, he wasn't allowed to attack as much setublehome. He played more head up in their scheme and did it very well. But we do think he'll play a little bit more on the edge and get up to feel a little bit more in our scheme. With the goal in the sixth round, but with players that guys adds it more looking at what they could be and the upside of down the road maintene. Aiding a little bit more of a chance, or just kind of what is the goal if you guys going to a rounding to sex, well, I'm going to let the guy that's set around the table with the master Jim Garrett grew his dad Jim Garrett explain what happens in the final rounds of the draft and of what you're trying to look for. This is I'll say this, this is right for we're going into free agency and free agency. It's a recruiting process as well as a bidding process in free agency. So if you don't want a guy to get in free agency and you see, y'all, I don't want to get his deal, but there it's a mixed bagge Jason and kind of give us the yeah. A lot of teams have different philosophies of the different rounds in the NFL, and our philosophy typically in the six and seventh round is you want to try to draft the more developmental type player and he might not have all the skills he needs right now to step in and play, but he's someone with coaching you feel I can develop into something that you really want. So sometimes you take a shot and a guy late, and I think mister Joe makes a great point. And a lot of these cases you buttressed the sixth and seventh round up against free agency, and you say, this guy's going to be hard to get in free agency. Let's draft this guy as sure that we get this guy, and maybe we'll compete for someone else in free agency with some of the other teams. So you combine those things developmental guy with high upside, you look for physical traits and UH, and then also the competition for the potential free agency situation that you might get into. Let's get the guy now rather than to get in that competition with other teams. And the only other thing I would add to that is, you know, in the in Brown's case, in Frasier's cases were fourth round picks for us, And so you turned out it was both ways. We were picking two guys that we had in the fourth round that we felt like half fourth round type traits and Brown and Frasier, and then then we were into our sixth round of our board. That's all we had left on our board. So then you're into the guys that Jason just described. So we kind of had a mixed bag there with our sixth round. Garry Jackson talked to by athletic, ging fast and some of those traits he had. Yeah, and he falls into that latter category. And Steven's exactly right. You're looking at your board and you're trying to take your best player, and if that best player falls from a higher round into the sixth round, general, the philosophy is to take him. But the bottom two guys that we took, Jackson and Gathers fit into that other category of a more developmental guy. Jackson has a lot of ability, he runs fast, he jumps high, was a productive player, but you feel like, you know, hopefully with coaching and with some experience, he can turn into something you really like. He was going to be a hard sell for us too. The other issue is if we've loaded up in the early in our early rounds and they look up there and you've got to somebody like Elliott sitting up there, then he's a little hard sell for us coming in here with mc fadden and so you look at that and now you get ready, you're gonna pay his bonus, but still you've you've made the decision for him about two secondary what you liked about and this year, well, I think the biggest thing with all these guys, you just want to bring him in here and get him started and uh, and we'll talk about getting to work and making sure in that rookie minicamp we focus on Friday and just you know, do what you're supposed to do on that day. Eliminate the expectations of what their roles are right away. But obviously we think a lot of those a lot of these guys the corner. Uh, you know, someone who really can run. He's got a lot of ability. We feel like he has a big upside and can really compete, you know, for a roster spot right away and then certainly uh for a role and hopefully at some point in his career he has the ability to be a starter at that position. And then the safety. Very active guy, just a really good football player. You see him do a lot of different things. He's kind of a playmaking guy down around the line of scrimmage. So you see him as a guy who might be a little further along than some of the other developmental guys and might be able to come in and compete right away. But you know, a big emphasis for us with all these guys is making sure that they focus on themselves, focus on understanding what we're trying to teach him, and come to work every day. Steve, and I guess it was in your mind pretty clear that Gathers probably wouldn't make it to the free agent pool, that somebody who was going to get him somewhere. Yeah, we went down and spent a lot of time with him, and I think there were twenty six twenty seven NFL teams I think at his workout, and you know, we just did a lot of work on him, and I really felt he had a lot of the traits that some of these other tight ends that have played basketball first in the NFL, you know, A Gates or guys like that that have had success. You know, we think he has some of those traits. I'm not saying he's gonna be one of those guys, but he certainly has the traits. And then you know the other thing is he's a little thicker. I think he can also do the physicality of him. He could be a white tight end for us as well, an inline blocker and little bit like Martellis Bennett was for us, you know, with his long arms, big hands. Uh, you know, he's just a big man and uh, you know, we liked what we saw there and you know, really feel like, you know, with our situation, he's a good fit for Uce. Can you give us an update on Shanley and do you expect him to be ready? Boy? Yeah, Well, I don't know about OTAs well. You know, we're no hurry with Sean. I don't you know, I don't know how much practice he needs in terms of uh need no tas Obviously we'd love to have him out there, but we'll be slow with him. But you know, there's no issues there with him. I think it's probably good we went ahead and did it and uh make him feel better and he'll be ready to go for training camp for sure, and we'll just kind of see, you know, how it feels as we work back. But obviously we'll be very conservative there with him. Yeah, it's a good question. We'll get the doctors. But there's something that bothered him for a little bit, or is something that cropped up during just cropped up. It was kind of bothering him a little bit. And when I check it here while we're early in the you know, early in the offseason, and get it, get it cleaned up. So can you talk about it since you drive quarterbacks, so when frequently I believe a lot of people outside the building are going to say, well, it's Tony Romo's successor can you address just how you view this move and how with the time frame you've fee with Romo before, this is a look to see how you can develop and you've started the process going out. Yeah, in this case, not because mister process is sitting here, but in this case, in this case, I must say that this this could be couched as a process. On the other hand, it's strictly as we look to the future. All of it does add up for future, and it's because that I don't if Romo was healthy, then he's going to play the games. What's great is that if there's ever a time when we're feel like that we can have Romo off the field, then we've got someone here that can get snaps and show how he does in the NFL and how he does with the Dallas Cowboys. I think it compliments us very well with what we're going to be doing with our quarterbacks, and we've got a good plan, a real good plan, exciting in that his upside is about his character. He's about it. Jason reminded me that we have spent as it would have it a couple of times in the off season with Roger stallback, and Roger said to both of us at the same time, but had said it each time because he thought, you know, we were considering the future after Romo at quarterback, and he said, somebody the team will really follow that. They believe in him, they will follow in him. And invariably when you ask about Dak, that's the first thing that came out was that magnetism, that leadership that's involved. Now, I don't want to write a check with my mouth that he has to cover here with you or anybody or fans, but he's got it and so but boy, he does have a lot of work to do with Jason and a lot of work to do becoming a pro quarterback. But the journey or the effort has started. We're totally committed to giving him at every opportunity to develop. And he's a guy that my assessment of him is you want him to do it, you really want, not that you don't want anybody to do it, but you want him to do it because he has all those tangibles. So it was about the future. I can't bring myself on my staff point to think about opening day of this year of seventeen s sixteen season. I can't think like that, or for that matter early. I don't want any more of that cheese. And so you're thinking about the future here, and like I said, I think from my perspective, this is a good time to inject him his skill level, what he's about into our staff. Jason. Yeah. Again, when you talk to people at Mississippi State, line one with Dac is his intangible qualities, his leadership qualities, how he has such a positive impact on his teammates and on the team, and you add that to his athletic ability and there's a lot to get excited about. But again, you want to resist expectations and roles with all these guys. Get him in here, teach them our system of football, how we do things, take it day by day and see how it all how it all shakes out. But we're gonna expect these guys to come in and compete, and we expect him to come in and compete and we'll see what the roles are as we go forward. Sure, you pretty emphatically said before the drive that you felt like the roster closer to twelve and twelve do you think you drive reflected that a little bit, taking the running back high, taking the lineback her merriment not be able to help this year. I don't know if I put the gatherers picking the same boat with us later in the drive, but well to the extent that we can interpret the picks that we've made as to how I felt when I said we're closer to the year we had the year before than our leary last year, then you can interpret it that way. I certainly feel that way. And I must tell you that, as we said yesterday, Smith Jalen just overcame with his abilities and how he really could ultimately impact for years and years and years this franchise. He overcame the fact that I would have sixteen totally and completely burned in my forehead and on my mind. You had to give that some consideration the future there with that, I don't want to make anything up because you know that I don't know and no one knows whether or not he could make a contribution this year or not. We do feel good though about his future. But when I look down through here and I look at it, I look at some of the goals that I'll just say that I had, and I certainly wanted to think about having a young quarterback on the roster. I wanted to think about improving the defense. I wanted to think about certainly what we could do strategically. Was there a way to really put something really impact this team very special. I think that first pick's got a chance to do that. And then again, I think have two in my role and should be thinking about beyond opening day this year, and I think this reflects a lot of it. Thank you here, so we're good to go now. That was Dame Bruegler. Brian brought us here in the SWBC Morket studios. We're working our way through the final picks of this draft, two hundred and fifty three of them. That was Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett. They gave you the assessment of what they felt like they had done so far in this NFL draft. And you know, the idea about talking about Dak Prescott, talking about Malie Collins and Tapper and Jackson gathers all that a lot of things going on there, just to recap where it picked two forty eight, about to be picked two forty nine, just to kind of get back into this a little bit. Uh, Jalen Mills goes to the just to recap a little bit. Jaylen Mills goes back, goes to the Philadelphia Eagles at two thirty three, but dal Alexander to the Raiders. Yeah, back to back LSU guys. They need to be first round guys, gonna be seventh round guys. It tells you a little bit about where we're at right now. But Oakland takes at two thirty four, Alexander the guard from LSU, just going down. Daniel Lasco with the Saints. At two thirty seven, Alex McCalister to the Philadelphia Eagles. So Philly took two questionable sec guys. Yeah, talented Jalen Mills and Alex McAlister. Talented the talents the seventh round guys off field is ye, yeah, so yeah, this is the point where would take a chance, take a chance to it and yeah and he Alex McAllister, the defensive end goes to the Eagles at two forty h peak, the wide receiver from Clemson, goes to York Jets. At two forty one. Keith Marshall, a lot of people, kind of a fan favorite of a lot of people. The first running back the Redskins of drafted this year. I thought they'd pick a running back a lot earlier than the seventh round. But here they are. They at Keith Marshall. Keith Marshall. Yeah, and we've we've talked about him. Explosive player, but not always he's not everything, especially at the running back, not not with him right. So we'll see what happens. And then uh Seattle. At two forty three, my buddy Johnny Snyder and Pete Carroll take Kenny Lawler, the wide receiver from cal player we thought would go top one hundred, possibly doubt I had him. We had him in the third. I had him in the third round. He's a four sixth athlete, you know, and that obviously teams care about the forty time for six athlete. I'll have some drops, but he'll make some of the most spectacular catches you've ever seen. So surprising. He fell all the way at this point. Yeah, this will be This will be interesting. I think he went to a good spot there in Seattle. And uh go further down Minnesota at two forty four, take Giron Curse, the safety from Clemson. That's kind of about where we thought Javon excuse me, Geron Curse was gonna end up in the seventh round if at all. Uh. Boy, he's a good looking athlete, but a good looking player just doesn't always play that way. Tyler Man of Cabage, the the when you watch the tape, the linebacker from Temple. Uh, he's us all over the field, makes plays everywhere. Uh, pittsburghs too, is a good good pick for Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah, you know, Pittsburgh's had some questionable picks earlier, I thought. But I like Tyler Man of Cabage. I have a productive Yeah. I mean, he's not the biggest on the fast, no, but he's in the right pa he will make every single tackle if they have And then uh we go down to again. We're a picked two fifty with Cleveland. H Austin Blythe U goes to uh the Packers at excuse me, Austin Blythe goes to the Colts. My bad, I wrote that down wrong. Austin blythe the center from Iowa, goes to the Indianapolis Colts at pick two forty where at pick two forty nine, uh, Prince Charleswarawara. And we skipped one guy that we skipped one of my favorite I'm sorry about this draft. Clayton Figellum Okay from Illinois safety went to Cincinnati. That's right, you had you did love this player. He does have his limitations and coverage, there's no question he's gonna be tough for him to see snaps on defense, but one of the toughest dudes in this draft. He'll hit you. He's got a ledge shoulder. He's gonna come down the alley and you try to poke holes in you with with that shoulder. Really tough run defender. I think he can stick on special teams. I love what the Bengals have done in this draft. I think they've They've picked up a lot of solid players. Yeah again, I always say this about the Bengals and you're probably tired of it by now. It's a very much a coach driven. But Duke Tobin Bill Tobin, I mean old school kind of NFL scouts guys. When I was in the league, Duke Tobin was just starting out. Now he does a great job of personnel with the sinse A Bengal. That team they lose guys, they don't pay a lot of guys. They retool the roster and done a really nice job, right, Scooby Wright. And here he goes at pick two at seven two fifty. The pick initially belonged to the New England Patriots. Scooby Wright. The linebackers had some knee issues, am I the same? Similar to what Miles Jack has had. He's a marginal athlete. I mean, he's just not a very good athlete. And that's similar to Tyler Matakavich though, right he just he wins with his instincts. He's a very tough player. His sophomore year in twenty fourteen is one of the best we've ever seen for a college linebacker, right history. I mean, he had over one hundred and sixty tackles, almost thirty for loss, six forced fumbles, fourteen sacks. As Scooby Wright is just a playmaker at the college level. Now, how will he translate to the NFL? A lot of question marks, but not the type of guy you want to you want to bet against his on his Twitter account two stars Scooby because that's he was a two star recruit, right, and he proved everyone wrong there and again not a guy you want to bet against. But here he is in the seventh round. We'll see if you can catch on in Cleveland. Yeah, that's a pick two fifty. We've got three remaining selections until this draft. And unless we have some buck guys fly off the board here back to back to back, they are not going to set the record. Yeah, the the record. Well, let's look at this. The Cleveland Browns had and and Dane, you were very much on. You were adamant about this because of talking about the numbers that the Browns, how they play the number game, right, fourteen picks in this draft, they're gonna do it again next year. They weren't, And that's something to do. That's something to do that that has to do with the numbers, the way they played sky and you play the odds. He played the odds in life, you know, and better chances, you know, more players your draft, more players you'll hit. That's just how it works. And so I think for the for the Browns, I do not agree with some of these picks. I think quarterback, especially being one of them. Yeah, at the top of the list, but they do agree with some of them, um, especially Corey Coleman in the first round, the first pick in the second round. So, uh, you know, Browns I don't think had a great draft. I don't think they had a bad draft. I think there's somewhere in the middle there. Okay. Well, and while we're talking about that, you know, we're we'll, like I say, we got a couple more picks left in this draft, and uh talk about though the Cowboys draft. What what's gonna be your take from this draft for the Dallas Cowboys. You've sat here from pick one too soon to be two fifty three. You've seen it all, You've heard it all. You've had a little bit of chance to you have a chance to digest it when you get home. But you you live this draft, and what did you think about it? Though? You know, the Zeke pick seems like it was two weeks ago. You know, so much has happened since, right, But you know, he's he's still the prize of this draft. You know, he's When we think about the two sixteen NFL Draft for the Cowboys, it'll be all about Zeke. But you know, looking at what the Cowboys did today, uh, picking up a few guys that can possibly round out the roster. Yea. They're gonna fight for jobs and training, can't. Uh, you know, really interested to see what they did in the sixth round, adding Arico Gathers adding U you know the running back from Eastern Michigan. Some some interesting names there. You know, guys that again might not are gonna might not be starters this year. You know, they're not gonna probably fight for starting reps, but guys that can round out a roster. Uh. You know, Charles Tapper is gonna be part of that rotation at defense. I'm interested to see Charles Tapper because again I've said it a bunch, the scheme, and they even talked about it a little bit playing and we had Leon let we had Kat in here talking about that that was you know, he wasn't as asgressive as he and they've talked about him being a right end. Right, we'll see that. And I asked him. I asked him about it, and we talked to him and he said that his best position was five technique. Yeah, you know, and he's a head up technique. That's not. I mean that's almost like that's all he knows. Yeah, that's a five technique. Let's be honest. It's an extend. It's look inside, it's look outside and then to go that rounte. Okay, Philadelphi Eagles have turned in their card there pick two fifty one. We'll try and finish this thing strong for you, guys, We owe it to you to do that. Joe Walker, he is a linebacker from Oregon. Now, yeah, if Chip Kelly was still in charge with the with the Eagles, we'd probably have an idea about a little bit more about why they took Joe Walker. Any thoughts on him at all. Uh, you know, a player who went under underrecruited, had to kind of go to a junior college before he went to Oregon. Uh. You know, the Oregon defense is very porous and not a lot of good players. But he was the one guy that stood out very productive. Yeah, productive trait right. Yeah. I like Joe Walker here. I came up p F A grade, but you know I wrote up a report on him because I thought, you know, he earned that. H he's a solid player here in the seventh round. Okay, Well, and uh, we've got two more picks to go here. Uh at pick two fifty two would be the Carolina Panthers. And then the final pick of this draft, pick two fifty three, is owned by the Tennessee Titans. We'll see who the Carolina Panthers in fact, uh at Dane just you know, as we kind of get the end some names on the board. We we've talked about Cash. There's you know, uh something there uh that you know he's going to get an opportunity to go in free agency unless he's mystery irrelevant uh you know to uh to a team. Someone's gonna like him with what he's done. The thing with Jeremy Cash, he's schemes specific right unless you we've said that, I said, specialized role carved out for him. Um, you know he's not going to be able to help your team. So now I thought he's worth carving out a specialized I did. I did too, you know I did too. He's you know the poor man's uh Dion Buchanan, that type of situation. But a team's gonna get a good player. That's tough, though. That's tough because, like I said, I thought watching his tape, I saw a very productive football player, and I'm very interested now to talk to some people around the league and find out exactly why there's injury that we don't know about. It's quite possible. Well that's happened before. I mean, we remember the Pittsburgh offensive tackle TJ. Clement. It's all of a sudden we have first second round grades on t J. Clements and then here So the Panthers selection. It's always funny looking at the NFL net. Rich Eisen's evolved. He's got that look what he has at the combine where he's he's fought this battle and now he's got his arms crossed it and all that. So the scouts are still fighting it out. Okay, the Carolina Panthers select Bo Sandlin, who was a tied end from Montana State. Well travel started, Juco went to Miami, realized he wasn't gonna get playing times, he went to Montana State. Yeah, you know, he's uh got a little bit of Greg Olson to him. So I think he's going to a good spot there in Carolina where he can learn from Olson. Just he's kind of a rocked up receiver, a player who's athletic, he tested well, Uh, more of a receiving tight end, but he'll get after it as a blocker as well. So I'm surprised he lasted this long. And I feel like I've said that a lot tonight, no today, But he's a good value pick here. Yeah, and so that will be okay. Uh, we got one more pick to be made with the Tennessee Titans on the clock. We'll see, Uh they still do, mister Irrelevant, We'll go to the podium when that pick happens. Uh. They the Titans started this journey. Take that back. They didn't start this. They had the initial pick and then they traded it away. So they go from the from the having the first pick trading away to a pick they have to make. Uh. Now on the clock, they've they're going to try and figure this thing out that they're looking at their board saying, Okay, who do we not want to fight for in free agency? And we'll see who in fact? That is? All right? Speaking of free agency, Dane, give me some names that maybe fans out there can can take a peek at that we might as Twitter starts out late in the night, we'll find out some names here, right. I think you're looking at Jeremy Cash we just talked about him. Number two of my list, Darryl Green, offensive guard from San Diego State, the player. This is a player who was suspended the first six games fifteen season for failed drug tests. I think that's the big reason we're seeing him still available. Dominique Robinson H. Robertson from West Georgia, the offensive tackle, good player. He started off in Arkansas, did he or no? He started off at Texas Juico, Texas Tech. That's right. I'm sorry, Yeah, that's right. That's what He's got his own baggage as well, So you know, sensing a theme here. Roger lewis another guy right with his own off field issues. But then a few surprises. Devon cojuiced wide receiver from Stanford, James Cowser Southern Utah ty Vs. Powell is safety from Ohio State, Greg Millhouse a defensive tackle from Campbell. I know we both liked him, right, Jonathan Jones a corner one of my favorite sleepers. Kalin Reid from Southern miss a corner. And then Adam Feeny a tight end from a Southern Illinois. We both like, Okay, well here we're gonna go. We're to get ready to uh go to the podium and get the final pick in this draft. Uh, it's picked two hundred and fifty three. It belongs to the Tennessee Titans. It looks like everybody is. I thought I thought that they were all going to gather and see who this was. But I guess. But I agree with you on did you see about did you see did you talk about? Uh, Poenie? Did you mention him at all? Day? He was the last guy mentioned, last guy. Yeah, you know it's he's going to be picked up here as a priority free agent and he'll get his opportunity. Yeah, I do. I do like the player. I like Phoenie. You talked about Robinson. Uh o'chee is another guy that I talked about. Uh, just didn't have the measurables. Didn't have the measurables. Stony Brooks gonna have to go another year without a draft. Yeah, they they But there's some guys, there's some guys down down the line here that there there's gonna be some battles in free agency. We talked about the odd kid a little bit. Maybe some injury history there. Uh yeah, unfortunate with the elbow and the knee. Uh we Uh it's uh, it's gonna be uh. We I mentioned North, the wide receiver. He was recruited by Derek Dooley. Uh, maybe he's a guy that we uh did I miss someone did Taj Sharp he was drafting. Okay, so yeah, maybe I was talking my I was talking way too much and forgot to mark him off my sheet right there. But there's some names worth fighting for here in free agency. It's gonna be Uh, it's gonna be a lot of recruiting. It's gonna be Jerry Jones getting on the phone. Uh, it's gonna be Jerry Jones maybe opening up the checkbook a little bit too. We saw it was interesting how how it works. And uh, it looks like they're kind of making their way to the podium. Kent Garrison one final time. I'm gonna ask you to go to the podium and get this final pick for us. And so for the final selection of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, Please welcome to the stage CEO of Mister Irrelevant Week, Melanie Fitch. She is the daughter of the NFL legend the founder of Mister Irrelevant, Paul Selata. Melanie, Welcome to the stage. Okay, I get a box, I'm a shrimp with the final selection in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft and the announcement of mister Irrelevant forty one. My dad, Paul Selata's are you in Newport Beach getting ready to celebrate mister Irrelevant with a two hundred and fifty third vick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft the Tennessee Titans. We're excited about you, guys. Kaitlyn Read a defensive back from Southern Mississippi. It's gonna go, mister Robert forty one. Congratulations, jass Well, I just mentioned Kaylyn Reid as one of my favorite players. Who what was going on, drafter? But here he is. I mean, that's two Southern miss guys. Mike Thomas, we heard his name earlier, Kaylin Reid here. I really liked this player. He's not mister a relevant or trust me. All right, well listen, let me let me ask you this, dame. You've done such a great job with us on the Draft show. We always appreciate your expertise what you do for CBS Sports. One final time, one final pick here, give me give me the scouting report on Kayleen Reid, Kayla Reid again, as Combine snub who should have been there along with this team by Michael Thomas. Undersize a little bit. He's under five eleven, under two hundred pounds, but he has some jumps to him. I think he was over forty yeah, forty one and a half inch vert he I think when you talk about production and what translates passes defended for defensive backs, really translate this geld A twenty three passes defended last year alone as a senior. So I think you can be a little over eager at times, play a little hands on, but he's got explosive traits. He has playmaking instincts. Again, this guy is anything but irrelevant. Wow, well that does it. That's gonna put a rap on the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft. One final report from a man right there, the Beast, Dame Burglar Dane, thank you so much for everything. We're gonna we'll get back with you, I think, can't. We're gonna have one final draft show, probably do on next week. A draft show next week, one final kind of tier things up. We got the rooky mini camps and stuff happening, and uh, but just want to thank everybody out there. For all the falling along h you're getting our products all those things. Thank you for all your questions, the tweets, the mock drafts, everything that we do that we love so much with this NFL draft from a man, Dame Brugler, David Hillman for for my guys at one oh five three, for Jeff Kavanaugh, KT Turner or for Kent Garrison executive producer all this time, for Douglas Faircloud for all they've done to put us together. I'm Brian brought us. Just thank you so much for being out there. Look forward to Dame Bruger's mock draft for two thousand and seventeen. We'll be up on Monday morning. He'll be up on Monday morning. So everybody out there, take care and we'll see you down the road.