The Dr. Sky Experience - Remembrance of 9/11 and Charlie Kirk

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The Dr. Sky Experience on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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You've been listening to live coverage of the 9-11 Memorial
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and 250th Anniversary Celebration of America from Cipriani's Restaurant in
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New York City, here on WABC, sponsored by the Katsimatidis family.
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To John and Margot Katsimatidis, I wish I could be
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there in person, but I'm there in spirit, along with
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the many others, honoring those who passed and died. in
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the tragic events of 9-11. As the show goes on,
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you can do your part, ladies and gentlemen, by donating
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to the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. T2T. org is how you
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can help contribute. But coming to you from the barrel
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our helmsmen, Bill and Jackson, for making sure that you
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get on the air with your questions and comments. And
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all we ask, ladies and gentlemen, is try, of course,
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to stay on measure with the great time that the
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many guests we have are spending with us. This week,
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we dispel with our normal topics, astronomy, space, aviation, and weather,
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and we'll continue 24 hours away with those topics. Why,
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with the memory of 9-11 fresh in our thoughts and
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a never-forget mindset, we mark the one-year anniversary also of
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the brutal and despicable assassination of Charlie Kirk. Closer to home,
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the memory of the 9-11 victims and families is have
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been honored and continue to be honored, and particularly this evening,
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as mentioned before, at the Katsimatidis event, the Unforgettable Gala
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in New York City, with proceeds to benefit the Tunnel
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to Towers Foundation and the Police Athletic League. Our two-hour
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show honors both 9-11 and Charlie Kirk's legacy, his memory
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as we move deeper into September 2026, and to our
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Jewish friends, the start of Rosh Hashanah, sunset on 9-11,
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to nightfall on Sunday, September 13th, and the beginning of
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the Jewish New Year's start of the High Holy Days,
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welcoming in year 5787. A very special guest here on
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the Dr. Sky Experience is always in the reflection that
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we have on 9-11 and the sad assassination of Charlie Kirk,
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hard to believe a year ago. Our special guest is
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Drew Thomas. Drew Thomas Allen is a Texan and a
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Pepperdine graduate who has spent his career as a publicist
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to the American right. His client list runs from Tulsi
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Gabbard and Peter Navarro to Jeanine Pirro, Alan Dershowitz and
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Ben Carson. In the summer of 2024, he handled Charlie
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Kirk's publicity for Right Wing Revolution, the last book Kirk
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published in his lifetime. He writes openly that he never
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met the man he wrote for Christ and Country in
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the months after the assassination, and Bombardier Books published it
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that December. While much of the movement was still fighting
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over who got to speak for Charlie Kirk, The eighth
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chapter of the book is entitled The Left Killed Charlie.
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Ideas have consequences and rhetoric has fruit, and a decade
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of calling one man a fascist, a Nazi, and a
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threat to democracy produced what happened at the Utah Valley University.
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Eric Metaxas, who was Kirk's friend, calls him an American
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Bonhoeffer in the book's advance praise. And that book that
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we're talking about with our special guest by Drew Thomas Allen,
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The Martyrdom of Charlie Kirk for Christ and Country, a
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prophetic indictment of a culture that calls good evil evil good,
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and hatred justice. With that, thank you so much, Drew,
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for spending time with us, and congratulations on your new book.
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Well, it's really a privilege to be able to talk
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to you with your audience on a day like today
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that's so solemn and so important to American history, frankly,
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and it's changed the world and our lives, and the
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same with Charlie Kirk's assassination. So I'm looking forward to
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a fruitful discussion tonight.
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Absolutely. Great to have you, as always. We did this
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back when you had your other book, just around the
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time of the election of 2024. And I want to
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remind everybody our contact number to get in early on
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the conversation, because many people call and say they can't
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get through. And certainly we appreciate your patience. The contact
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number 1-800-848-9222. And your calls, ladies and gentlemen, on what
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9-11 means to you and the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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Tell us a little bit more about your background. I
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read that but you do much more powerful ways of
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explaining it than me reading a bio. You never met him,
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but you obviously were doing the publicity for a short
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time with Charlie Kerr. Talk about that relationship.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, it's a strange thing. I've
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been privileged to be a publicist for... many of the
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aforementioned names and their, you know, famous figures, inspirational figures
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on the right, Tulsi.
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Gabbard, Dr.
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Ben Carson, et cetera. And I've met a lot of them.
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Like at CPAC in 2024, I went and hung out
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with Tulsi Gabbard backstage. I escorted her down media row
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for some interviews and watched her work the crowd. And
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it was really incredible. And I've had that experience with
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a lot of people. Hung Cao, who's up to be
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Secretary of the Navy, he was a client. I've talked
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to him many times in the past and did publicity
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for him. But Charlie, I never met. And I didn't
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actually realize how significant of a figure Charlie was.
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You know, it's funny.
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When I was doing PR for Charlie... I didn't text
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my friends or family and say, Hey, guess what? I'm
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doing PR for Charlie Kirk. Like this is the coolest
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thing ever. I mean, I, I was aware who he was,
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but I think a lot of people didn't realize how
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significant he was until after he died. And that was
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the case for me. And, and, I experienced this personal
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transformation after his death because Charlie's assassination and death, it
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didn't profoundly affect me because it was through a lens of, hey,
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we lost this conservative leader. It was a human thing
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about losing somebody and thinking about a husband and father
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who had perished because– Like Charlie, I'm married. My kids
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are exactly the same ages as Charlie's kids. He's got
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a son and a daughter. I've got two daughters. And
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it's like 9-11. I remember where I was on 9-11.
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People in your audience, everyone would always say for the
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past 25 years, where were you on 9-11? That was
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kind of a start of a conversation. And Charlie Kirk
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on 910 was the same thing. Where were you when
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Charlie Kirk was assassinated? And I was pulling into my
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daughter's school program that morning, the day before. Um, she, my, my,
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my wife always picked up her daughter cause I was working, uh,
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from home. And the day before my, my wife was
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disappointed that I was in the car. She kept saying, dad,
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I didn't car, dad, I didn't car. So my wife
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told me that story. And on nine 10, I said, Hey,
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you know what? Um, I'm going to go with you.
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Let's go pick up our daughter. I can't wait to
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see her, her face light up. And I got the
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news that Charlie Kirk had been shot is we're picking
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up my daughter. And then I started researching. I was
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getting messages from everybody. Um, and I, I saw the video, right?
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The horrific video that everyone can see forever now. And
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as I'm processing, like, I can't believe it. Like this
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guy is gone. No way. Um, my daughter was coming
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to the car and she, she was yelling happily dad
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and car dad as in the car dad as in
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the car. And I realized in that moment, that's what
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I had.
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Right.
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And Charlie Kirk's kids, um, that had been taken from
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them forever. And it broke me. I cried for a
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week and I was trying to process why his death
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affected me so profoundly. And it started this kind of
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transformation in my own life to realize what Charlie was
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and how he became the Charlie that we knew. And
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it forced me to become a stronger, more courageous, and
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more spiritual person, more faithful person, someone who put their
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faith in Christ first. And so that was kind of
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a big moment in my life, and I'm still affected
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by it today.
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It's amazing. Your reflection on 9-11, I mean, the pain
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I can only imagine. I know where I was. Everybody
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knows where they were. But particularly the audience that's listening
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right now on Talk Radio 77 WABC, near and dear
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to them, those that were at the Pentagon, and of course,
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the sad crash of the terrorist airplane in Pennsylvania and Shanksville.
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I mean, your message to everybody, you're a man of spirit,
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you're a man of credibility. What's your take on this?
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I mean, so many people have opinions and that's why
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we want them to call in with what 9-11 means
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to you, ladies and gentlemen, and the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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But you, tell us more, Drew. I mean, it's so horrible.
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Some people don't even want to talk about it and
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you can't blame them.
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Well, look, as somebody who's a man of faith, I mean,
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think for any human being, right? I mean, it's hard
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to grapple with tragedy in our lives. You know, why
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do bad things happen to good people, right? That's kind
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of a question we have pondered since the beginning of time.
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And as a person who believes in God and who's
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a Christian, you know, it takes on even additional, you know,
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consequence and impact. And you know, over the course of
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my life and grappling with Charlie's death and obviously 9-11 too,
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you know, I've come to really lean on God and
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there's something that I, the way I, this was taught
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to me by, by some pastors and it's something that
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helped me. There's an upper story and a lower story. Okay.
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The lower story is what you and I are dealing
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with every single day. You know, we're involved in, you know,
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different difficulties and financial struggles and raising our kids and
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being busy and going out to dinner and trying to
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maintain friendships and relationships. Well, Above us in the upper story, literally,
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is God's plan. God is working all the time, and
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he will turn tragedy into furthering his plans that are supernatural.
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beyond our comprehension. And so, look, we are all a
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part of God's story, right? I mean, as a Christian,
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you've got the Old Testament, New Testament, but Jesus Christ
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has not come back again. And so God is working
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and he has a plan and we can, we do
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have free will. And so we can choose to be
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protagonists or antagonists in God's unfolding story. Uh, but God
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is going to use us all the same to further
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his kingdom. And we've seen that. I mean, with nine 11, uh,
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We've seen silver linings in terms of bringing the country
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together at that point. And and I think that when
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these tragedies happen, it brings us back to God as well,
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because we have nowhere else to go. And with Charlie
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Kirk's case in particular, it's like a case study, because,
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I mean, I'm I am, you know, testifying today about
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how it. positively impacted my life. And then, of course,
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people have returned to churches, whether it's Protestant or Catholic,
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to Mass. You've had a surge in Bible sales after that.
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And actually, even the TPUSA organization, despite losing its charismatic
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leader to face the organization, They have more groups on
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campuses and high schools in this country than they did
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when Charlie was alive. And they've passed or passed a
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million donors, individual donors. And so actually they're doing better
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than they've ever done before. So, you know, even with
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Charlie's death, God is using it.
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The Dr. Skye experience as you're listening here on Talk
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Radio 77 WABC takes a different direction with no apology
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with the pain that exists so much around the world.
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from 9-11, and of course, this particular story of the
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assassination of Charlie Kirk. Who's with us? With your questions
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and comments, your opinions, what does 9-11 mean to you,
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ladies and gentlemen? The assassination of Charlie Kirk. Drew Thomas Allen,
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author of The Martyrdom of Charlie Kirk for Christ and Country,
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a prophetic indictment of a culture that calls good and
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evil an evil good, and hatred justice, in his opinion.
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Talk to us a little more about this, because it's
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simple for me to think about and hear But you
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have much more experience on this. Charlie wanted to debate.
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He sought after the toughest audiences, and he did it alone.
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I mean, folks, if you watch those particular videos that
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Charlie had, there were people up there just lambasting him
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and doing, saying horrible things. But he never stopped, and
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that's a strength that I don't know. I mean, we
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like to have dialogue on this particular program, but he
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went into the realm of debate, and I thought did
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a hell of a job.
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a positive thing. But with Charlie, you have to ask yourself,
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you know, what kind of lunatic, you know, what kind
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of lunatic, like eagerly goes into hostile spaces and enjoys,
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you know, being confronted by his antagonist, right? And the
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root of it was his faith in God. So if
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you even track TPUSA's history, And even some of the
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issues some of the donors had later on is when
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TPUSA started out, and now, you know, TPUSA has all
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these different organizations and kind of wings, right? So they
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have like TPUSA faith and all these things. So with TPUSA,
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you know, it started out kind of secular, right? It
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was trying to combat socialism and promote capitalism, for example,
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and things like this. And it changed as Charlie changed. And,
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you know, probably... Four or five years ago even, Charlie
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Kirk really experienced this transformation in his own life where
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he really wanted to become an apologist for Christ, right?
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And by apologist, I mean somebody who debates Christianity with
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other people, who's an expert in scripture and the history
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of the church and everything else. And what Charlie did
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is he surrounded himself, because he had the humility to
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do so, to surround himself and seek out mentors. Like
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Frank Turk was one of those people. There were a
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lot of pastors in his life that he looked to
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to help prepare him to become an evangelist for Christ, really.
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as he did that. And he became really, really effective.
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a spiritual war above all. You know, for Charlie, I think,
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our problems in this country through politics, right? Man has
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fallen or born into sin. And so he believed that
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politics was actually downstream from the faith message. And so
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he put that first, but you know, Charlie was such
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an effective debater. Uh, but the thing also about Charlie
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is that he didn't just like, like, you know, nowadays,
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like I know you, Dr. Sky, and I know how
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much preparation you do before interviews and it's inspirational and
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it's why your show is so powerful and so effective.
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Thank you.
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I mean, we should, as hosts do the gun in preparation,
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you've been in, Again, not everybody's going to agree with us,
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just like everybody who would read this particular book. There's
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some out there. We're not trying to bend people's arms.
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We're doing a memorial, not only to the victims of 9-11,
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if you're just joining us, but also talking about Charlie's legacy.
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And something else, Joe, that I want to mention, Charlie
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had a show here on Talk Radio 77 WABC, so
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another reason to honor his presence here. And people, I'm sure,
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for many, many years that he was here, they heard
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his voice loud and proud. So that's another story that
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we could talk about later. But please continue, you're on
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the right path here.
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Well, I just, you know, Charlie's legacy, I mean, he
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represented American exceptionalism. I mean, if you think about what
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he accomplished in his 31 years on this earth, it
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exceeds what people, you know, twice or three times his
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age could possibly hope to achieve. And, you know, I've
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had a lot of hard lessons in my own life. Like,
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for example, you know, when I went to high school,
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I was a really good, talented soccer player, but I
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went to this new college preparatory school in Dallas, a
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Jesuit college prep, and all these students had grown up together,
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and I lost all my confidence during tryouts, and I
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basically forgot how to play soccer despite having been a
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really exceptional soccer player, and I didn't make the team,
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and so it forced me to find something else to do,
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and it got me involved in theater. And so this
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is kind of the beginning of the change in my life.
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And so I fell in love with theater. I got
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back into soccer. I made varsity. And actually I quit
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soccer my senior year to pursue theater. And I got
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an acting scholarship to Pepperdine University. And all I wanted
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to do with my life was act. And I loved
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the craft. I actually lived in Manhattan. I graduated college
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and I lived on East 62nd between 1st and 2nd Avenues.
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then I chose to abandon acting to move to Milan
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because I got a job working for Marc Jacobs and
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I had no retail experience.
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And I was across the world. Boy, you've been a
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world traveler and everything like that. But one of the things,
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not to interrupt you, I think it's very profound that
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many of these skills that people have without repetition, they're
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perishable skills. So that's very interesting. So just like Charlie.
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He could have simply given up on the conversation with
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people who definitely disagreed with him. But look what he did.
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He stayed the course. And sadly, we're memorializing him because,
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I don't know, where I was that day is not
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as important as where everybody else was. But it was
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equally a shock, almost like out of the twilight zone. Very,
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very sad. But sorry to cut you short. We were
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talking about the experience in Italy making you the guy
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you are today.
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Well, look, I mean, I went back to acting, and
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I'm not an actor today. I mean, I did some
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stuff in TV and film, but it wasn't in the
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cards for me. It wasn't God's plan for my life.
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And what I had to learn through the school of
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hard knocks was the art of surrender. And what God
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wants us to do is surrender to his will. And
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the reality is, and what I can testify about today,
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is that for so much of my life, I had
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this grand plan for how my life was supposed to unfold.
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is so much greater than our own. We can't even
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imagine what that plan is. And what made Charlie unique,
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I think, is that he aligned and surrendered to God's
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plan for his life at a very young age. And
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so he had this kind of meteoric rise in success.
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And you could see the conviction in him, right? I mean,
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he was so convicted about what he was doing, and
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people will talk about that all the time. But I'm
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just somebody that, you know, I probably have done 20
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interviews this week about Charlie. uh, in particular. And what's
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interesting is, you know, we have a little bit of ageism, right?
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I'm sure you experienced this cause you know, you're older
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and wiser than I am. But typically when someone's 31,
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someone's 31 years old, if you've got 30 years on them,
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you know, you might respect them, but you don't really
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admire them because you're like, you know, what does this
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person know? Like they don't have the experience I have. Well,
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whether a host that I talked to on these radio
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or TV shows is 60 or 70, um, or has
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young kids, they all truly admired and looked to Charlie
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Kirk as a figure that inspired them. And that's a
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rare thing.
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Absolutely. Get into the conversation, ladies and gentlemen. We welcome
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what we call a theater of the mind. Our guest
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who's on stage in this virtual theater is our very
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special friend, Drew Thomas Allen. His brand new book, The
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Martyrdom of Charlie Kirk, We're talking about this. The title
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of the book is For Christ and Country, a Prophetic
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Indictment of a Culture that Caused Good Evil and Evil
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Good and Hatred Justice. And that number, 1-800-848-9222, as we
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continue with him for the two hours. Going back to 9-11,
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the pain is still fresh. This is a statement here
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that I'm almost, it's hard for me to get out
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of my mouth, but it's a fact. I just heard
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this and I reconfirmed it. Of all the people that died,
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nearly 3,000 on 9-11, it's still so sad.
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Drew.
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1,100 victims of 9-11 have still not been identified. I mean,
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the pain that the families must have on that, I
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couldn't imagine, but our hearts go out to them, particularly
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in that particular level. Imagine 1,100 people do not know
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still the identity of of those that perish. That's so sad.
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But even with new DNA technology, as they were talking
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about in this particular video and the particular people that
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I spoke with, just goes to show you what a
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horrible experience.
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How do you even talk about something like that? And
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we'll get into the conversation with you later about maybe
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some ways to prevent things like that. Because as you say,
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and I'm quoting you, evil is overcome by grace and love. Wow.
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I read the book. It's pretty interesting stuff. It's pretty
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common sense though, don't you think? Evil is overcome by
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grace and love. We just need to make sure that happens,
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don't you think?
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Well, you know, most of the lessons that we can
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apply to our life, I mean, some are common sense.
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Most of them, all of them can also be found
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in scripture. I mean, of course, the easiest thing ever,
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but it's like, I'm a guy who can give great advice, right?
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It's so obvious what the advice is to someone else,
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but applying it and actually living up to it in
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your own life, it's like the most difficult thing ever
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for some reason. But of course that's true. And And
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Charlie exemplified love as well. He got this reputation because
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of the slander from the left that he was this
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bigot and hateful person. The Southern Poverty Law Center put
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him on a hate map and all this sort of stuff.
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But- He really did embody Jesus' message and command for
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us to love others. Loving someone isn't condoning sin. Loving
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them is actually providing them a solution to solve their problems,
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and that's what Charlie did day in and day out.
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We live in a culture that's so soft, and they
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just want... everything they do to be affirmed, right? I mean,
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it's like, Charlie was dedicated to telling the truth, no
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matter what, no matter the cost. And obviously the cost
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ultimately was his life.
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Amazing.
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You bring it so well to the audience. Last week,
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I want to make a commendation. Jeffrey Robinson, ladies and gentlemen,
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you told us last week how popular he was by
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your calls. Who's Jeffrey Robinson? A book, Ash and Honor,
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going up the charts of the New York Times bestselling
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and other locations. titled The Untold 368 Minutes of 9-11.
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His premise behind the book was not to go after
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the individual terrorists, but to talk about the aircraft that
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were in the air on that fateful day, and many,
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many stories that people, of course, can learn about. Jeffrey
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called me the following day and thanked me for putting
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this particular program on the air, and I said it
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is our pleasure to honor those that passed on that
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horrific day. I'm a New Yorker at heart, Drew, even
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though I live here in Arizona right now, born in Jamaica, Queens,
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and always proud of my New York heritage, but no
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matter where those people died on 9-11, it's our solemn
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tribute to the loss of life. And hopefully, as we
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get into the next conversation, when we come back after
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the break, we see your calls coming in, folks. We
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see Greg in Michigan, Joaquin in Pennsylvania, Alan Yonkers, and
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even Mark here in Arizona. The contact number 1-800-848-9222, as
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we like to call this, a theater of the mind.
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Why?
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Drew, I know you understand that from theater, but again,
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Ladies and gentlemen, we say it sincerely. We're here in
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this audio mode, and we can imagine in our mind
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some of the things. That's where this whole theater of
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the mind concept, I think, is powerful, and I think
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it's not unique. We hear other people talk about theater
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of the mind, but we, of course, try to do
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our very best in bringing these subject matters. We will
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return to the normal conversational topics of astronomy, space, aviation,
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weather with great guests, as tomorrow we go back and
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talk to Tom Harris of the International Climate Science Coalition,
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talking about the latest of why it's so warm around
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the world, why has the United States reached an all-time
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high temperature, and some of the other amazing anomalies of
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the Super El Nino. Stay tuned for that in less
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than 24 hours.
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1-800-848-9222.
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And if you're just joining us on this particular solemn tribute,
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not only to the victims of 9-11, but of course,
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our memory and memorial to the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
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a patriot and a man who showed us a path
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that many people are looking toward to in the future.
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We'll be right back here on this particular radio show,
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an archive called the Dr. Sky Experience.
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The Dr. Sky Experience on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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Look back. One last time. Everything we ever knew.
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Everyone we ever loved.
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Is on that tiny pale blue dot.
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So small.
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Yet it holds our whole world. Time is not abundant,
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and life not guaranteed. 31 minutes after the hour, we're
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rejoined by our special guest, Drew Thomas Allen, and you,
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ladies and gentlemen, the callers that make this show happen.
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You've been patient. Let's go to line number one. We
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have Greg in Michigan. Greg, you're on with our good friend,
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Drew Thomas Allen. How are you this evening?
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Good evening, gentlemen. Mr. Positive Boom Shakalaka. Yes, Charlie Kirk
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was an iconoclast. But here's the problem. You want to
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bring unity. When you talk about religion and you articulate
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that one specific religion is more correct than the 5,000
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others that exist, I think you create... An air of,
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you're the best. Your position, your religion is the best.
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And Charlie Kirk, I love the way he debated. I
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love that you go out and you challenge people and
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you use the Socratic method. Everybody, when you want to
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change someone's point of view, you use the Socratic method.
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And that means by not putting people down, you ask questions.
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Why do you believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior?
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Why do you believe in Allah or the Quran to
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be right and all the other religious disciplines? And getting
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to 9-11, Dr. Skye, you bring up the best philosophical
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queries that can be done. When you bring up 9-11...
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What we need to do, this world is full of division.
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9-12 and 9-13 brought unity. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Positive
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wants you to bring unity. Learn, remember that time after 9-11,
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how we all came together and we became as one.
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And we became, as my buddy Chris Cuomo would say,
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on the back of the dollar bill. What does it say?
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Unis e pluribus unum. Out of many, one. We have
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to become one.
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You couldn't say it better there, Greg. I mean, you've
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said it really good, but you know something? Drew, you're
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having the spiritual conversation on this side of the equation with,
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and I respect Greg's opinions, but Your response to what
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he's talking about, about one religion can say they're the best,
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but isn't every other religion saying that they're the best?
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But again, your response to Greg, you came through with some,
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I think, interesting points of discussion.
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Well, look, I mean, when we talk about Christianity or
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Judeo-Christian values, you know, you can hate tomatoes but love
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tomato sauce or pizza. And, you know, you don't have
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to be a Christian in this nation to understand that
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The origination and the origin of the great freedoms that
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we have come from those Christian beliefs. And the reality
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is this is a fundamentally Christian nation. But even beside that,
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I mean, I think that, you know, the point that
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he's getting at is that, you know, he really wants
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this unity like we had after 9-11 for a little while.
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But the world has changed. Look, after 9-11, it did
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bring us together. I only had Democrat friends my whole life,
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even though I was conservative. And on 9-11, there was
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no going on each other's throats. It was a tragedy
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for America. But the problem in this country today, 25
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years later, isn't Christians and conservatives. It's the left. After 9-11,
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as tragic as it was losing all those innocent Americans
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in a terrorist attack, I looked across the ocean, and
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in Pakistan, they were celebrating our tragedy, celebrating the death
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of these Americans.
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Absolutely.
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They were handing out candy to kids.
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That's horrible.
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But that was overseas. It was overseas, and that was Islam.
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All right, now look. 9-10, you know, last year, we
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had leftists that were so-called normal people that were celebrating
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and cheering Charlie Kirk's assassination in the streets. So we
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can want unity all day long, but we have to
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be realistic about what the problem is and where we are.
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And there were people I went to high school with
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that I sat next to at desks for four years,
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and they were celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination. And, you know,
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if we want to get into it later, we can.
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But I can track and explain to you.
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Oh, we have a lot to do here, Greg. No, Drew,
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excuse me. And I want to thank Greg in Michigan
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for always bringing up insightful conversation points. Thank you, Greg
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in Michigan. What I wanted to say is not as
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important as what the callers say and, of course, our guests.
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But here's something. It's so powerful. And this is something
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I read. And I don't know if you can corroborate it. Recently,
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on this anniversary of Charlie Kirk's assassination, there were some
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people going to tattoo parlors or tattoo shops. where they
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were actually mimicking him by getting a tattoo on the
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neck in the same region where the bullet allegedly came into.
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I think that's despicable beyond... It's horrible. How could anybody
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even consciously even agree to do something like that with
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no respect for the person who died, whether you agreed
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with their politics or not? Amazing. Did you hear that also, Drew?
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I mean, or did you read that? That's terrible.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, I've seen that. I've seen other things, too.
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Um.
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And, uh, I mean, people are, are, are turning his,
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you know, assassination to something that's celebratory. And, you know,
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what this gets to the heart of is a diagnosis
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of what's wrong with the left-wing ideology. And Charlie Kirk
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pointed out really well. I mean, he, he would talk
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about the difference between us on the so-called right and
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people on the left. And, You know, for people like
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Charlie Kirk and myself, we believe in a transcendent power,
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and that would be God. And so the moral order
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that we operate under, we didn't create it. We live
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under it. And so there are certain immutable laws. I mean,
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even our, you know, the Ten Commandments, which defines so
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much of Western law, you know, don't kill, don't steal,
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you know, don't covet, etc., which made their way into
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our laws, you know, that is from a religious framework.
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But see, the left.
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They view themselves as gods, right? So morality for them
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is not absolute as it is for me or Charlie
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Kirk was, or many people listening. It's simply something that
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they can change to suit their own whims at a moment.
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And maybe this is controversial for people, it's not for me,
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but abortion is a perfect issue. So if you take
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a mother... You know, she's pregnant and she goes into,
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you know, the doctor's office and she wants the baby
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at 10 or 11 weeks. And I'm picking a random
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gestation period. She goes into the doctor's office.
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Right.
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And she wants the baby.
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Right.
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Intense. She wants it. She comes out with a little
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photo of the baby in her uterus and she shows
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her family and her friends. She said, look how beautiful
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my baby is, right? Now, if you take a woman
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and you go in and she doesn't want the baby
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and for whatever justification she invents, you know, oh, I
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can't afford it. I'm in college. It's not a good time.
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It's inconvenient for me. Well, then she leaves. She has
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an abortion perhaps. And she comes out and dismisses that
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baby as a clump of cells. Well, those two things
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can't exist together. It either is a baby or it isn't.
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But the point is you have moral relativism on the left. So,
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The reason the abortion issue is so important is because
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it's kind of how we got to this place where
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you can sort of decide based on preference what morality
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is going to be. And so for many people on
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the left, Charlie Kirk was a clump of cells to
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be dismissed as somebody who could be murdered because he
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was just a bad guy. You know, his words were violence.
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And yet when an act of actual violence claimed his life,
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that was acceptable and justified. 1-800-848-9222.
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We see many people coming into our theater of the
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mind and we welcome you with your commentary. Just joining
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us again, it's always nice to remind the audience, in
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case they're tuning in, they just maybe came home from work,
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or who knows, maybe they're driving a truck, and we
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appreciate even first-time callers here at this particular number. Our guest,
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Drew Thomas Allen, his book, among many books, The Martyrdom
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of Charlie Kirk for Christ and Country, a prophetic indictment
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of a culture that calls good evil and hatred justice,
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in his opinion. Fascinating story here, but I want to
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go to the callers here. We've gone to line number two,
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Joaquin in Pennsylvania. He's a regular caller. Joaquin, good morning
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to you, and thank you. Thank you very much. How
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are you doing?
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Good morning, Dr.
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Scott.
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Great program, Andrew. What you just said before was very prolific.
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It was very good. Charlie Kirk was very unique, and
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it is actually interesting that he died on the day
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before September 11th, before 9-11. That is quite an interesting coincidence.
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But now, Dr. Skye, like me, you're a gun guy, okay?
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Yes, I am.
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You actually believe that a. 30- 06 did not leave an
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exit wound in Charlie Kirk. See, I don't buy the
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whole story.
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You're 100% right. Look, I hardly talk about this. I'm
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a certified instructor here in Arizona, state certified. I do
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all the training. I did this, blah, blah, blah, law enforcement.
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Let me go to the point. And I want to
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go and carry this on, Drew, after the break here
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in a few minutes. This is interesting, Joaquin. You take
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a re-barreled Mauser 98, you know, with an 8mm rifle.
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Very powerful cartridge. I've had tons of these Mausers. We've
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shot them all. They re-barrel it to. 30- 06. Hunters know
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the cartridge. The M1 Garand, of course, we know. Very
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powerful cartridge. You take a, what, maybe iffy shooter from
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the distance alleged. And that particular bullet, we've shot. Look,
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I've shot things for LE. Take a watermelon, for example.
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If you shot a watermelon with an AK-47 at X
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certain distance, it will take chunks out. You use some
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of these smaller caliber guns, little like. 223,. 556, it
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would vaporize the entire thing. So when Charlie got hit,
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my concern, Joaquin, and carry on with this, in your opinion,
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because I find it highly disbelievable because if that round
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hit him, I believe it would be far more that
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he would have had no head. I know that gets
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very graphic. Joaquin, what do you say? I'm agreeing with
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you that that's nonsense, I think.
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Look, Dr.
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Scott, I got shot, okay? It's a small entrance wound.
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It's only 0.30 of an inch, a. 30 caliber. But
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where it comes out is a totally different story. And
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there was no way that that bullet bounced off his
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shoulder bone in the back and stayed inside his body.
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Not a. 30 outside.
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Maybe a.
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22.
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Maybe a handgun round. but not a. 30- 06. It would
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have blown out the back of him, and that should
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have been a big mess behind him.
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It would have been a vaporized head. I mean, this
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is so graphic, we don't even want to talk about it. But, Drew,
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your opinion on this, because after the break, Joaquin, excuse
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me for a moment, I want to carry this on
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with Drew, but Drew, excuse me, a response, if you'd like,
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to what Joaquin is talking about. I know ballistics. He
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knows ballistics. What's your opinion of that?
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Yeah, I mean, look, it was a jacketed soft point.
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And it was a, you know, standard big game hunting ammunition.
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So it had a copper jacket that was locked to this,
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you know, lead core and exposed soft tip. And, um,
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I would, I would remind people it was a 30-06
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that also killed, you know, MLK Jr. Um, you know,
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I consulted a friend of mine who I'd done PR for,
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who was a Delta IV sniper. And I understand there's,
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you know, other people would say otherwise, but I called
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him after, because I heard the same things that y'all
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were talking about around Joaquin and And he didn't have
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any kind of question about the possibility that that bullet
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did exactly what it did. And the reality is, I mean,
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people have gone out and they've shot watermelons and so
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on and so forth. Things happen. I mean, people have
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gone to war and watched these things take place. You
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can't predict. I mean, the specific trajectory of that bullet
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with Charlie Kirk on that day, that type of ammunition,
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you know... It does things that you didn't, you know,
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might have predicted it would have done. So I just,
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I mean, I watched the pretrial and it was effectively
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a trial.
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You know more about it than we do, but I
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hate to cut everybody off here. Joaquin, if you want
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to stay with us, we can carry this on just
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for a brief period. We have so many callers as
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we would want on a topic so important, 9-11. And
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of course, what's going on with the assassination of Charlie
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Kirk a year or so ago. Very, very sad to
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talk about.
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1-800-848-9222.
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We will be right back as we continue this discussion.
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And Drew, he's giving us some firsthand information. Joaquin is
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giving us his ballistic side. And I appreciate everyone. We'll
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be right back on the Dr. Sky Experience. Stay tuned.
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The Dr.
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Sky Experience on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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This is Dr. Peter Lilback, president of the Providence Forum.
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I'm so glad to be with Dr. Skye and the Dr.
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Skye Show. Make sure you listen in because this is
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one of the places you're going to remember the great
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truths of the lost voice of freedom that are rediscovered
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when we go back to our founding fathers and the
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great principles they've given to us.
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Evil grows in silence. 47 minutes after the hour, we
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continue our conversation on Line 2 with Joaquin in Pennsylvania.
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and our very special guest for the two hours, author
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Andrew Thomas Allen. Joaquin, why don't you continue? We have
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just a few more minutes and we have a full board.
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Go ahead.
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In the first place, a 200-yard shot, I could have
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made that open iron sights, no problem. All day long.
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But the whole thing that bothers me constantly is that
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I know what a 30 out six will do and
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we used to shoot a steel break um rotors and
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things like that and if you look it up a
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30 out six will penetrate a 0.42 you know of
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armor steel okay yeah.
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I know i've shot it into so many look without
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going into super detail i can do this in another
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venue but the truth is we've shot so many of
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these cartridges even A replica of Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle,
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the Carcano. And what a sloppy rifle that was. And
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we shot it at distances allegedly the same as the
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Kennedy assassination. And you look at that and say, oh, wow,
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that's not probable. But you're looking, look, folks that don't
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know this, you're looking at a velocity of about 2,800
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feet per second, maybe at best. And you're looking at
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a short distance like that. Again, not to be overly repetitive,
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and I want Drew's comment to close this particular conversation
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out for now, that you hit something with that force
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and It's not going to do that kind of damage.
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It's going to do catastrophic damage. And when you get
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shot and killed, it's obviously horrible. But the question is,
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I have a lot of questions. Drew, your final comment
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on this one, as we think. Thank Joaquin for bringing
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the ballistics curiosity into the equation. Go ahead, Drew.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no, I appreciate it, Joaquin. I mean, it's something
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that's been on a lot of people's minds and it's
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been controversial. I mean, look, the round of that rifle
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was a hunting round. It was a soft point. Like
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I said, it was copper jacket, lead core, a soft lead,
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you know, exposed at the tip. And, you know, the
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whole reason that bullet exists, you know, the reason the
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manufacturer sells it, what it sells it for is that
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it opens up when it hits something. So it mushrooms
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out to about twice its width. And, you know, it
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dumps everything it has into its target. That's the product.
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And so, you know, military is the opposite.
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You must be from Texas because a lot of people
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don't know that unless they're hunters. No, I'm not trying
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to be funny, but no, that's an interesting conversation point.
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And we're going to tackle that as we continue. We
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have a full board here and we're so privileged and
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honored for people coming into this particular archive, as we
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call it, the theater of the mind on the Dr.
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Sky experience. Thank you, Joaquin in Pennsylvania. Let's go to
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line number three, Alan Yonkers. You've been patient. You're on
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with Drew Thomas Allen. How are you doing this morning?
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Good, Dr.
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Skye.
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Drew, doing well.
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Thank you.
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You know, I just wanted to say, you know, six
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years ago, I started to listen to the radio as
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opposed to watching Fox. I used to watch Fox a lot.
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And I'm a pretty well-read guy. And when my sister
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told me and when I saw that Charlie Kirk had been,
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you know, been murdered, I was taken aback because I
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really didn't know Charlie Kirk, and it was a surprise
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because I read a lot, know a lot about politics,
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and I didn't know who he was. And my question
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to Drew is, would you say that Charlie's celebrity was
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more regional? Like me, for instance, being from the Northeast,
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maybe he was more known in the Southwest where he
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was from Arizona. Would you say that's accurate?
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Well, I would say, how old are you?
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I'm in my fifties.
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I'm 57.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So I'm turning 40 next year. And the answer to
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that is not regional. It's that Charlie's audience was mainly
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young people. Those people that were college age or in
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their twenties. And so that's why he wasn't, that's why
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I wasn't really even aware of how important he was
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either an influential, because, you know, I was kind of
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out of that, that, that age range. I mean, a
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lot of people said we wouldn't have won the last
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election because without Charlie Kirk going to all these college
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campuses and getting all these young people to change their
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minds and show up to vote. And I think there's
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some truth to that. And so it's not that it's regional.
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It's just that Charlie Kirk, when he was 18, he,
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you know, Charlie Kirk said, hey, you know, the one
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thing I wish people would understand and recognize about me
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is that I'm an entrepreneur, right? I saw a hole
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in the market. And the hole in the market was
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there wasn't anybody doing outreach to these college campuses, which
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were indoctrination camps. And so he was targeting young people
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because he saw that colleges were the problem that were
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producing these Marxists and leftists in this country. And so
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that's why, you know, that's the simple reason. And it's
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the same reason that you weren't aware, and even I,
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when I was doing PR for the guy, was unaware
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as well.
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Al, you get the last word. We appreciate the callers. Continue, please.
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Thanks, Dr.
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Scott.
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Yeah, you know, I just thought maybe it was more regional,
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like Utah, where unfortunately he was assassinated. Because, you know,
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I know people like Franklin Graham, whose father... was you
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know very well known and uh franklin graham is from
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the south but he's known nationwide i just again thought
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that maybe it was because charlie kirk it was more
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regional regional but like as you pointed out it was
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because he had a big uh base and support with
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younger people it was demographic.
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Alan yunkers i appreciate you thank you so much for
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being part of the show Sorry to cut you off there, Drew.
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We're going to try to go to one more caller
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to close out our number one. Let's say good morning
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or good evening to line four. Mark in Arizona, you're
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on with Drew Thomas. Thank you for your patience.
846
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Thank you for a wonderful show.
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My wife and I live in Arizona, of course, and
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we met Charlie about four times at some of the
849
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events we had involved with in the Republican Party, and
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it always was a great experience.
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To see him.
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If Charlie was.
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Born in 1930... he would have stopped the Supreme Court
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in 62 and 63 with his activity and his activism
855
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of taking the prayer and the Bible out of schools.
856
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That was the spiritual death of our America when that
857
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occurred in 62 and 63 by the Supreme Court.
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Think about that.
859
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And then five things that are faced in America today
860
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that are real problems is one, Islam. Jefferson knew about Islam.
861
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He knew that if we didn't take care of the
862
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barbarian pirates, we'd have a problem down the road. The
863
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other one is the Marxism-Communism, which is the theft of
864
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private property, which is in the Bible.
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It doesn't happen. Also, the third.
866
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Thing that's very, very important is anti-Semitism that's going on today,
867
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and that's usually because of spiritual jealousy, and that usually
868
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happens towards the end times. And then one of the
869
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fourth things that's very important and why America is failing today,
870
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and the fifth, I'll tell you, the fourth is the
871
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testosterone of males today because the food they eat is very,
872
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very low. Most men going into the service are 200
873
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to 350 points on their testosterone. So we don't have
874
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any men in this country anymore.
875
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Well, Mark, I appreciate you giving us a litany of
876
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things to discuss here. But, Drew, you have the floor
877
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as we close out Hour 1 here. Thank you, Mark,
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in Arizona. Insightful points.
879
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True yeah yeah i mean all those points are really
880
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interesting and he's he's dead on about uh uh islam
881
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certainly testosterone is actually an interesting thing too i mean
882
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that that's true also and there are issues with food
883
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i'm not an expert in that but he's he's correct
884
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testosterone levels have dropped dramatically um you know the islam
885
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issue is fascinating because charlie kirk one of uh you
886
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know his post was that you know uh Islam is
887
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the sword that's going to cut the throat of America.
888
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And I think it's an interesting correlation. Nine 11, where
889
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are we 25 years later? Well, you've got a mayor
890
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of New York city, uh, whose wife and himself, and
891
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certainly the people in his administration around him, uh, celebrated
892
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the slaughter of innocent Jews on October 7th. And they, um,
893
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you know, and, and, and, you know, there are correlations to,
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we'll probably get into it after the break. Um, You bet.
895
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If we're not careful, we're going to kind of repeat
896
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where we are, you know, 25 years later with 9-11
897
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and what's happened. I mean, the New York Times is
898
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talking about how, you know, Muslims are fearful, you know,
899
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because of, you know, 9-11. And it's just this unbelievable
900
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upside-down world inversion of morality, you know, where the perpetrators
901
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are the victims. I mean, look at the Clancy trial
902
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with a woman who killed her three kids. You know,
903
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you had all these women who wanted to exonerate her,
904
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and she's the victim. She killed her three kids, and,
905
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you know, no, she's the victim of the pharmaceutical, you know,
906
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industry or something like that. It's a stunning thing. But,
907
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you know, I don't know, we're probably up against a
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hard break, so I'll kind of stop there.
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Well, we are in just a moment, but I wanted
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to add this, and it's always not the host that
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really wants to be the big blowvator here, and I
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don't mean it to the guests, but I'm just saying
913
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your opinion and the guest's opinion are always so much
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more important than what I'm doing here, just trying to navigate.
915
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I like to say this, and I've repeated it, and
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I think you'll laugh, I like to be considered like
917
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an air traffic controller. My job is to bring the
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planes in and get them out and make sure that
919
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you balance the ones that are coming in so they
920
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land safely and the ones that take off in that
921
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particular vernacular. But what's so interesting, let's say this, the
922
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hatred of these attackers on 9-11, it's just off the charts.
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And we're not going to do a deep dive into
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them to give any honor to them. They're despicable. But
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the reality is this. This happened in this country. The
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biggest mass murder event in American history is, of course,
927
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the 9-11 situation. And we need to figure ways, right, Drew,
928
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and everybody listening, as to ways to protect this country
929
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in a way. But we're going to get into hour
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number two with you and talk about what you think
931
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is the issue, in your opinion, the problem here. And
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it goes over to the side of the left in politics.
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And I'm going to have you, of course, in your opinion,
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express that deeply to us. We see your calls coming
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in here. We see at line number one is Max
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in New York. Line 5, Sandra in New Jersey. Line 2,
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Jeffrey in Queens. Why I mention it, obviously we'll not
938
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be able to get you on in this hour because
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time goes so fast, especially when you're delivering this information
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that people want to hear and certainly need to hear
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in many people's opinions.
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1-800-848-9222.
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Tell us where your book can be purchased and obviously
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the Common Sense one is it goes off of Amazon,
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but tell us where else and how can people get
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your book? And do you have a website that you
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can share with us in the short minute that we
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have before the top of the hour?
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Yeah, I mean, the best place is drewallen.substack.com. You can
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keep abreast of what I'm doing there. And then on X,
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I'm at Drew Thomas Allen. Yeah, Amazon's a great place,
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00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.119
but this book's actually faced a lot of censorship. So
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if you have issues, if it comes up and says
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can't ship to your address, it's not an issue with
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your address. It's Amazon doing what it does. So you
956
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can find it at Target, online, and other booksellers as well.
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Absolutely amazing. That this kind of thing goes on in
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this world here where the First Amendment should be an
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open thing for both sides of the equation and never
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the censorship of speech, as we all know, that is
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another subject. But we end off the hour with this
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particular statement. The reaction to that is the murder and
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sad murder of Charlie Kirk was received with reverence by
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many and not militancy, of course, by those who respected him.
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So much more. And if you're calling us and wondering
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what happened to our events in the heavens, the quick
967
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sky update will come as we move into hour number
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two of the Dr. Sky experience. My email, if you'd
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like to send me a little email, tickle me. I
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will respond, of course, to all of them, drsky, that
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is drsky, at wabcradio.com. Hour number one in the history books.
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We move on to hour number two, and we'll get
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those callers on the air, including you, at 1-800-848-9222. And
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thanks to our helmsman, Bill N. Jackson.
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The Dr. Sky Experience on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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His brand new book, The Martyr of Charlie Kirk for
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Christ and Country, the prophetic indictment of a culture that
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calls good evil, evil good, and hatred justice. Drew, thanks
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for being with us. I know you have a busy evening,
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and I do appreciate your words here on this particular
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radio show. Let's continue with the callers, ladies and gentlemen.
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They've been patient. Line number one, we welcome Max. Good
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morning to you in New York City. You're on with
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Drew Allen.
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Dr.
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Skye, thank you for taking my call, and Drew Allen also. Yes, sir.
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We....
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I don't think we should forget that this isn't just
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the problem with Islam now. It's not just all of
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a sudden they're coming in there and we're being consumed
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in Patterson, New Jersey by them. There have been ebbs
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and flows throughout history when the Occident is confronting the Orient,
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and then when And then in later years, then it's
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Islam confronting Christianity and vice versa. This has been going
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on a long time.
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And there are pauses.
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Yes. Well, for at least 1400 years. And there are
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pauses here and there, but it maintains every once in
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a while, it accumulates and a new wave comes in.
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And we, we seem anytime I speak to someone about this,
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they're so they're extremely naive about it. Uh, the, the,
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You mentioned the Barbary Wars, that this also existed with
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the Barbary Wars, and that there's a good deal of
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sex slavery amongst the Arabs. None of this is brought
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up by, for example, El-Sayed. Al-Sayed makes certain statements when
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he's speaking before CAIR, C-A-I-R, Council of American Islamic Relations,
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that we are the bad guys. We've been conquering. Excuse me,
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how about Constantinople? Who took over Constantinople? Right now it's
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run by the Turks. Who had it before? It was
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the Greek Christians in 1453. How about Egypt? Egypt was
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originally about 90% Christian, and then the Muslims came in.
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Have they given it back to the Christians?
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No.
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Well, you know a lot about history, Max. You really do,
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and bringing this into the conversation. You know, it's amazing.
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Think about it this way. No, Max, excuse me to
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cut you off. Think about it this way, and I
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want you to respond, of course, as our guest. Many
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of the people that were never alive in the time
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of 9-11, I mean, I was 45 years young then,
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and everybody knows where they were when they saw this,
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but a lot of young people, right, Drew? They have
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no idea of the depth of what's happened here. Who
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did it? And it's not an indictment against every single
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person who's Muslim. That would be unfair. But you're right.
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What you bring up, Max, is look at this history.
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And if you dig deeper into it, why can't any
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of those candidates just come out and say, hey, my
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00:54:03.349 --> 00:54:06.210
allegiance is to the United States because we sure the
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hell ain't going to want to have Sharia law here, right, Drew?
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That's not going to happen. And we need to figure
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a way to get these people. I don't know how
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to use the words. You can say it better than me, Drew,
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to respond to what Max is talking about.
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00:54:19.489 --> 00:54:22.510
Well, he's right. People are naive, and they do it
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from a place of good, I think, but they don't
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want to acknowledge the difference between Islam and other religions
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of the world. You know, we keep being told, and
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we've been told for a long time, even by George Bush,
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you know, Islam is a religion of peace. Now, look,
1041
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we have a left-wing violence problem in this country, and
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there's a problem with the rhetoric of the left and
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00:54:42.530 --> 00:54:45.449
that ideology. Now, the point is not every Democrat or
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00:54:45.469 --> 00:54:47.400
person on the left is going to go out and
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commit murder. Not every Muslim is a horrible person that's
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going to go out and commit jihad. Okay, but too
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many are. And so, you know, here's my question. It's
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not a trick. Which religion are we talking about when
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we talk about Islam? Every faith has a founder, and
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what the founder did tells you what that religion is.
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Jesus of Nazareth never held office. He never commanded an army.
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He never wrote a legal code. He was executed by
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the state. And when they tried to trap him on taxes,
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he gave the answer that built Western civilization, render under
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Caesar what is Caesar's. So you got two authorities, two spheres, right?
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And that single sentence is where your freedom comes from. Now,
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Muhammad was the head of a state. He was a legislator.
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He was a judge, right? He led men into battle,
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and he took territory. And I'm not slurring. That's the
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biography of the man, and it's in their own sources,
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written by their scholars, and they're proud of it. And
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so when people try to tell you that Islam is
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just a religion, a private matter that's a thing between
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a man and God, like a Methodist in their songs,
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00:55:53.219 --> 00:55:57.099
jurists never said it. They divided the world into two houses,
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a house of Islam and a house of war. And
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that's the point. I remember when Barack Hussein Obama.
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You know, amidst all these terrorist attacks on our soil,
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you know, domestically. You know, he went into the National
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Prayer Breakfast and lectured a group of Christians and basically
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chastised them and told them, you know, well, look, you know,
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Christians have done the same things as Muslims and Islam,
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you know, they're basically the same thing.
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I remember that.
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And they did this after Charlie Kirk's death. You know,
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we condemn all acts of political violence as if it's, like,
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equal on both sides, and it's not. And we've got
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to be realistic. I mean, we, we, we played this
1079
00:56:37.650 --> 00:56:39.469
game for too long where we put our head in
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the sand. And now 25 years later, you've got, you know, effectively,
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you know, the caliphate, uh, standing over, uh, the nine
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11 Memorial laughing with AOC. And I guarantee the caliphates
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are the, uh.
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That's horrible. That's just despicable. That's the best word. That's horrible.
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But let me say this, Max, you bring up some
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very powerful points here. And I couldn't agree more with
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you about studying history. If people understand history, And the
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other thing, I keep repeating this when we do American Exception,
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if you do not know, ladies and gentlemen, what rights
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you have, how are you going to know what rights
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you lose? And that's another subject for another time. Thank you,
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Max in New York City. Let's go to line five.
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She's been patient. Sandra in New Jersey. You're on with
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Drew Thomas Allen.
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Good morning.
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I'm patient, but I'm also enjoying listening, so it's okay.
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Al from Yonkers called earlier and said exactly what I'm
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going to say. I'm almost embarrassed to say that I
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didn't know Charlie Kirk, unfortunately, until he died. And once
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I learned about him, let me tell you, I was
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blown away by him. I would watch him on my television.
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I would watch how he would interact with these young students.
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All different opinions. And he never, never, never put anyone
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down for how they felt.
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Sandra, you're right. He was just beautiful.
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I loved him. Now, what breaks my heart is Candice
1107
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Owens and Tucker Carlson. They have been very disappointing to
1108
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me because they showed me a side that I never
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knew existed in those two people regarding Charlie Kirk. So
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this whole thing is sad. He's a big loss. And
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to get along with young students the way he did,
1112
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I hope we find someone else just like him. And
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I don't understand Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson.
1114
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I know, Sondra. You're right. And you know something? I'm
1115
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repeating it and Drew can elaborate it in greater detail.
1116
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Charlie won a debate and he saw it after the
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toughest audiences and he did it alone. I mean, how
1118
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many people want to go into the fire pit? You know,
1119
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so many people would run from that because they're either
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outnumbered or outspoken. He did that and it's one of
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the many things we should memorialize him for, for his
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steadfastness and Am I right, Drew? I mean, to what
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Sandra's talking about, he was pretty much self-educated. I mean,
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he would quote things from the Bible and quote things literally.
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I mean, he must have had a photographic memory, but
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it wasn't just school education that made him who he was.
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Am I correct in that assessment?
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Of course you are. I mean, think about how incredible
1129
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this is. You have a guy who wrote a book about,
1130
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you know, it was called like the college scam. And
1131
00:59:21.809 --> 00:59:23.949
so this was a guy who was telling people that
1132
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college was a scam. He did not go to college himself.
1133
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He was self-educated. And he went on college campuses where
1134
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people were engaged in and paying for the scam. And
1135
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all these people who came to the microphone that were
1136
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his adversaries, you know, they wanted to humiliate him in
1137
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some way because they thought they were so smart because
1138
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they were in college. I mean, he was a kind person,
1139
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but he left every single one of these people that
1140
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tried to challenge him who had this great college education.
1141
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He humiliated them without a college degree. And it made
1142
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the point that college, in fact, was a scam, but Sandra,
1143
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I mean, what a great call and what a great
1144
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person because she exemplifies the significance of Charlie Kirk because,
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and that's why also I call him a martyr. I mean,
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his death, which is tragic in a way though, I mean,
1147
01:00:12.389 --> 01:00:17.360
it brought so many people. It expanded his audience. It
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01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:21.699
expanded who understood who he was, expanded, you know, the
1149
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:24.420
ground troops, if you will, that want to go out
1150
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:26.429
and march for the cause of freedom and liberty and
1151
01:00:26.469 --> 01:00:29.289
to protect this country. I mean, that's that's his legacy. And,
1152
01:00:30.909 --> 01:00:33.130
you know, I mean, we will continue to talk about him.
1153
01:00:34.190 --> 01:00:37.210
for years to come. And he is a great American
1154
01:00:37.289 --> 01:00:39.190
along the lines of the founding fathers. I mean, this
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is a guy who was.
1156
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31 years old.
1157
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I mean, a lot of founding fathers were in their
1158
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30s or younger. And today, you know, just because of
1159
01:00:47.530 --> 01:00:51.869
The benefits we've reaped from the sacrifices of our forefathers,
1160
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you know, you got people who are 30 now still
1161
01:00:53.949 --> 01:00:55.739
living in their parents' basements that don't know what they
1162
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:57.159
want to do with their life, you know, and that
1163
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wasn't the case. I mean, we had postponed growing up
1164
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with the education system and everything as well. We know
1165
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we kept putting off responsibility and putting off accountability and
1166
01:01:05.380 --> 01:01:07.519
putting off these things. And Charlie was a guy who
1167
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:09.340
at 18 said, no, I know exactly what I want
1168
01:01:09.380 --> 01:01:10.929
to do and I'm going to go and do it.
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And he persevered and it wasn't always easy and he
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defied the odds and he became this great figure in
1171
01:01:15.929 --> 01:01:16.610
American history.
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Absolutely. What a loss, because can you imagine? And I'm
1173
01:01:20.110 --> 01:01:22.389
sure he would be one of the best, if you're
1174
01:01:22.409 --> 01:01:25.070
looking at this side of the equation on the political spectrum,
1175
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probably one of the greatest candidates for the presidency in
1176
01:01:27.590 --> 01:01:29.860
the future. I mean, look at the following he had
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about truth, justice, and the American way. Sandra, thank you
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so much for your insight. We appreciate it greatly. Life
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01:01:36.900 --> 01:01:40.199
is fleeting. Truth matters and courage matters. These are not
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01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:42.559
words that I'm making up. These are things that I'm
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getting from your book. And obviously, they resound very powerfully
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as we listen to this particular archive. A change of venue,
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01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.570
ladies and gentlemen, with no apology, as we memorialize those
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01:01:52.610 --> 01:01:55.590
that lost their lives, the families that still suffer, and
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01:01:55.610 --> 01:01:59.090
of course, the attacks, the horrible terrorist attacks, the biggest
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01:01:59.130 --> 01:02:02.190
mass murder event in American history, you all know it, 9-11,
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01:02:02.809 --> 01:02:06.730
and the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Let's continue with the callers,
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01:02:06.769 --> 01:02:08.829
and then, you know, Drew, it's only amazing. I wish
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we had 62 hours to do this, because we haven't
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01:02:11.070 --> 01:02:13.570
gotten into what's going on in our country, in your opinion.
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01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:16.480
and how to put a cork in it or to
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01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:18.639
slow it down so that we can continue to have
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01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:22.550
an America that has what? Our family basis and values,
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01:02:22.590 --> 01:02:26.250
the cornerstone of society. That's an interesting story. Let's continue here.
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01:02:26.269 --> 01:02:28.289
I don't know if I have this right, but again,
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01:02:28.349 --> 01:02:31.469
our helmsmen are navigating me. Line number three, Jeffrey in Queens,
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01:02:31.710 --> 01:02:33.750
if you were there with us, you're on the air.
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01:02:33.909 --> 01:02:34.230
Thank you.
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I am there with you, Doctor. And let me just say, parenthetically,
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to begin, Doctor, I heard you on the station in
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01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:44.280
New York in the 80s. I think we were 50
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01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:46.079
years later. 60 years later. Okay.
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01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:48.769
How about that? How quick time goes by, doesn't it?
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01:02:48.780 --> 01:02:53.119
There you go. And, Drew, when you mentioned about the ruling,
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01:02:53.139 --> 01:02:55.530
the Supreme Court ruling in 61, which took the Bible
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01:02:55.590 --> 01:03:00.190
out of the schools, okay, I guess Randy Weingarten and
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01:03:00.210 --> 01:03:03.070
the AFT or the atheists would say that's the way
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01:03:03.110 --> 01:03:05.269
America's supposed to be. It's not supposed to have religion
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01:03:05.289 --> 01:03:07.750
in the schools. Well, that's the other question for you.
1210
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:09.800
What would you say to that? But here's the bigger
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01:03:09.820 --> 01:03:13.630
picture about Charlie. I didn't know Charlie existed until maybe
1212
01:03:13.650 --> 01:03:15.489
a year before he died. And then I saw what
1213
01:03:15.510 --> 01:03:19.769
you just said in the last five minutes, that magnificent, one-of-a-kind,
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01:03:20.090 --> 01:03:22.369
though I wish there would be more, persons who are
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01:03:22.409 --> 01:03:26.110
willing to debate other people who disagree with them 100%,
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01:03:26.110 --> 01:03:29.679
and they're willing to maintain a cordial debate. Unbelievable.
1217
01:03:29.699 --> 01:03:31.099
Yeah, imagine that.
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01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:32.900
I've never seen it before, and I'm 70. I'll say
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01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:38.869
this again. There have to be more people in this
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01:03:38.909 --> 01:03:41.050
world who are willing to be like that. Even if
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01:03:41.090 --> 01:03:43.130
they're a few and far between, Charlie can't be the
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01:03:43.170 --> 01:03:46.809
only one. We need that. Okay, now, when he died,
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01:03:47.389 --> 01:03:50.840
this is the most despicable thing I've ever observed. I've
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01:03:50.860 --> 01:03:54.780
never seen this happen before. Ilhan Omar, maybe Rashid Jalib,
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01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:58.599
they got on the floor of the Congress and they
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01:03:58.619 --> 01:04:01.940
made statements, we will not be, you know, they called
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01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.130
him a bigot, you know, they accused him of saying
1228
01:04:06.190 --> 01:04:09.440
all things that were so bad in their opinion, they
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01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:14.159
would not have a moment of sympathy for his death,
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01:04:14.659 --> 01:04:15.639
his assassination.
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01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:17.340
Right, that's horrible.
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01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:21.090
Drew, where do we go from there, Drew?
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01:04:21.909 --> 01:04:23.670
Well, Jeffrey, you bring up a lot of good points. Drew,
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01:04:23.690 --> 01:04:25.809
you got the floor on this. This is an electrified,
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01:04:26.269 --> 01:04:28.610
interesting caller with some very interesting points.
1236
01:04:29.670 --> 01:04:34.429
Yeah, yeah, Jeffrey, you're a great American. I would say
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01:04:34.469 --> 01:04:40.750
this first. This week, someone in particular called me and
1238
01:04:40.769 --> 01:04:45.239
they expressed despair. They said, Drew, it's been a year
1239
01:04:45.260 --> 01:04:49.719
since Charlie Kirk died and there hasn't been someone else
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01:04:49.820 --> 01:04:53.800
to come and replace him. When is that going to happen?
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01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:55.679
I said, look, you're going to be waiting for a
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01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:56.929
long time. You're going to have to wait until you
1243
01:04:56.949 --> 01:04:59.889
get to heaven to meet Charlie Kirk because there's only
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01:04:59.969 --> 01:05:01.469
one Charlie Kirk and there's not going to be another
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01:05:01.489 --> 01:05:04.429
to replace him. And it got me thinking, you know,
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01:05:04.449 --> 01:05:07.030
this is part of the problem. I'm not saying there's
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01:05:07.050 --> 01:05:10.440
something wrong with you, Jeffrey. It's all of us. We're
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01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:13.380
so fortunate right now, I think, even with Trump. and
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01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:18.159
certainly with Charlie Kirk, where we had these just champions
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01:05:18.579 --> 01:05:20.139
of all of us, right? And they were willing to
1251
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:22.000
take the slings and arrows. And we could kind of
1252
01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:25.739
feel comfortable sitting back on the sidelines and say, thank
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01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:28.300
God we've got Charlie or Trump. He's doing all this
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01:05:28.340 --> 01:05:30.079
work for us. I don't have to do anything. And
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01:05:30.179 --> 01:05:32.780
that's the wrong thinking. Because what we need to do
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01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:35.090
if we want to preserve Charlie's legacy and continue moving
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01:05:35.150 --> 01:05:39.030
forward is look in the mirror and frankly look up
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01:05:39.050 --> 01:05:43.230
to heaven And say, God, I surrender. You know, what
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01:05:43.309 --> 01:05:46.130
skills and abilities do I have? Use me as a
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01:05:46.190 --> 01:05:51.349
tool in this country as well. Because we all have
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01:05:51.409 --> 01:05:54.329
a role to play. You know, I remember I had
1262
01:05:54.429 --> 01:05:58.019
Newt Gingrich on my podcast, you know, maybe six months ago.
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01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:01.800
And I was talking to Newt about, you know, Speaker
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01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:06.059
Newt Gingrich about, you know, so many things changed for
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01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:07.300
me when I had a kid, I've got a three
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01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:08.340
and a half year old and a one and a
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01:06:08.340 --> 01:06:11.099
half year old more or less. And being a parent,
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01:06:12.019 --> 01:06:14.400
oh yeah. And being a parent, you know, you don't
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01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.219
get to turn it off. I'm a parent 365 days
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01:06:17.260 --> 01:06:19.340
a year, 24 seven. And it's going to be that
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01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:21.920
way the rest of my life. And somehow in this
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01:06:21.980 --> 01:06:24.619
country where we're so blessed, we've gotten into this kind
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01:06:24.659 --> 01:06:27.630
of rhythm where every two or four years, especially with
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01:06:27.650 --> 01:06:30.250
midterms coming up, right. We think like, that's when we
1275
01:06:30.309 --> 01:06:33.929
get to start to be like, citizens again. We have
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01:06:33.949 --> 01:06:37.170
a responsibility, but it's not true. We have a responsibility
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01:06:37.170 --> 01:06:44.480
365 days a year, 24-7, to take the inheritance that
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01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:47.579
we've been given seriously and be stewards of it. And
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01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:49.440
so look, there is no Charlie Kirk, just like there's
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01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:52.380
no Rush Limbaugh. There's no Rush Limbaugh that's coming. There's
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01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:54.639
nobody that's going to replace Rush Limbaugh. There's nobody that's
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01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.260
going to replace Charlie Kirk. These are unicorns that came
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01:06:57.300 --> 01:06:59.619
at the right time and had the right skill set.
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01:07:00.179 --> 01:07:02.809
and the right disposition and intelligence and mind.
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01:07:02.909 --> 01:07:06.429
And previous hosts on here on WABC. It's amazing that
1286
01:07:06.469 --> 01:07:09.110
we're talking about this on this legacy radio station with
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01:07:09.130 --> 01:07:12.690
their excellence that they brought to the microphone. But Jeffrey
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01:07:12.710 --> 01:07:14.750
and Queens, thank you for making the show exciting and
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01:07:14.989 --> 01:07:17.869
bringing up some very good points. We appreciate you. Hope
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01:07:17.889 --> 01:07:20.570
you'll call us again. Let's go to line number two.
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Before the bottom of the hour break here, time flies
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when you're having an interesting conversation. And what I appreciate
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01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:28.059
about Jeffrey is, is that what I try to do
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01:07:28.139 --> 01:07:29.639
on the show, ladies and gentlemen, you tell me if
1295
01:07:29.699 --> 01:07:32.760
I'm succeeding, is that I want to bring dialogue to
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the conversation. Isn't that interesting, Drew? Where we're not yelling
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and screaming at each other, especially during the early morning hours.
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I mean, that's not the style that I wanted to do,
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but who knows? People could criticize me for that. But again,
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01:07:44.750 --> 01:07:46.969
this is what we like to do. Line number two,
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Richie in Long Beach. You're on the air with Drew Allen.
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01:07:49.909 --> 01:07:50.389
How are you doing?
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01:07:52.269 --> 01:07:58.309
Gentlemen, Steve, Drew, excellent show. And let's remember, just two
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01:07:58.329 --> 01:08:02.590
or three weeks after 9-11 attack, they were flying Afghans
1305
01:08:02.710 --> 01:08:06.809
into America, thousands of them into America. So nothing stops
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01:08:06.869 --> 01:08:11.389
the invasion. And you both guys both support legal immigration,
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01:08:11.809 --> 01:08:13.610
and that brings in a million and a half third
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01:08:13.650 --> 01:08:16.239
worlders every year. So I don't know where your argument
1309
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:19.619
is coming from. These people are being flown in here
1310
01:08:19.779 --> 01:08:23.619
every single day, third worlders. And you support it. So
1311
01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:26.880
if you support it, either let's face the facts, you're
1312
01:08:26.899 --> 01:08:28.810
either a useful idiot or you're in on it.
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01:08:28.850 --> 01:08:29.069
Right.
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01:08:29.430 --> 01:08:32.430
Because that's what's taking place here. And look at China,
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01:08:32.590 --> 01:08:38.800
communist China, Saudi Arabia. China is running a baby birthright citizenship.
1316
01:08:38.819 --> 01:08:41.800
You haven't heard nothing there. about that since that uh
1317
01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:44.060
court case went down because the people don't.
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01:08:43.899 --> 01:08:47.039
Care they're poor but hey not to put not to
1319
01:08:47.060 --> 01:08:49.380
put words in young people.
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01:08:49.140 --> 01:08:53.770
Not to put words in your mouth excuse.
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01:08:53.270 --> 01:08:56.609
Me a minute richie please what i'm saying i support
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01:08:56.670 --> 01:08:59.649
legal immigration drew you have the floor and don't you
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01:08:59.670 --> 01:09:02.340
know we don't to make sure everybody understands that we
1324
01:09:02.380 --> 01:09:05.680
don't support illegal immigration. Drew, your take on it.
1325
01:09:05.739 --> 01:09:06.039
Go ahead.
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01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:07.840
Well, yeah.
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01:09:07.859 --> 01:09:11.859
I mean, of course, we support certain amounts of legal immigration.
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01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:17.149
Legal immigrants from Italians to the rest have made this
1329
01:09:17.210 --> 01:09:20.350
country great. But the point is, what we've become is
1330
01:09:20.869 --> 01:09:24.390
a welfare state. And so the way we conduct even
1331
01:09:24.409 --> 01:09:26.869
a lot of our immigration policy is that we look
1332
01:09:26.909 --> 01:09:29.149
around the world and we say, oh, these people, we
1333
01:09:29.170 --> 01:09:32.439
feel bad for them. Let's give them a chance to
1334
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:35.970
even come in here. The government's role is to bring
1335
01:09:35.989 --> 01:09:37.689
in the A-team from the rest of the world. The
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01:09:37.770 --> 01:09:41.289
only reason we should have any immigration, legal immigration, is
1337
01:09:41.489 --> 01:09:44.890
it's case by case, and people should be brought in
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01:09:44.909 --> 01:09:46.869
here on the basis that they're going to enhance and
1339
01:09:46.890 --> 01:09:49.380
improve this country and want to be American and assimilate.
1340
01:09:49.949 --> 01:09:52.260
So if they're not going to enhance this country, then
1341
01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:56.739
they shouldn't come here, obviously. So immigration is important, but
1342
01:09:56.859 --> 01:09:59.880
the problem is we don't assimilate. So obviously we brought
1343
01:09:59.939 --> 01:10:04.039
in people like Ilhan Omar, We brought in people like
1344
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:08.670
Mom Donnie, right, who is a naturalized citizen. And what
1345
01:10:08.729 --> 01:10:11.649
business do these people have coming to this country when
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01:10:11.689 --> 01:10:15.340
all they bring is hatred and they refuse to love America?
1347
01:10:15.380 --> 01:10:19.890
That could be a prerequisite to this country. Obviously, immigration
1348
01:10:19.899 --> 01:10:21.909
is an important part of this country. We're great because
1349
01:10:21.949 --> 01:10:27.489
of that. But I think your point is that we
1350
01:10:27.510 --> 01:10:30.899
have lowered our standard. We're looking at our role as
1351
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:32.539
America being the greatest country in the face of the
1352
01:10:32.579 --> 01:10:34.579
earth and saying, yeah, let's bring in the worst of
1353
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:36.970
every country or the poorest or whatever else. That's not
1354
01:10:37.010 --> 01:10:40.390
how immigration works. uh, you know, the only reason immigrants
1355
01:10:40.409 --> 01:10:42.449
should come here is because they're going to improve this country.
1356
01:10:42.489 --> 01:10:45.770
It's like, you don't draft somebody to your NBA team, uh,
1357
01:10:45.810 --> 01:10:47.949
because you feel sorry for when you draft them, because
1358
01:10:48.149 --> 01:10:49.729
they're going to be an improvement to your team. And
1359
01:10:49.750 --> 01:10:51.649
that's what America is. We're the best country in the
1360
01:10:51.689 --> 01:10:53.710
history of the world. So the only people who want
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01:10:53.729 --> 01:10:54.949
to admit it are people who are going to make
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01:10:55.010 --> 01:10:55.369
us better.
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01:10:55.609 --> 01:10:58.029
That's a sentence, you know, drew and a sentence from
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01:10:58.069 --> 01:11:02.060
your book that I'm quoting here, character, conviction, and competence.
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01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:03.989
And there's a lot of other things we could add
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01:11:04.020 --> 01:11:07.180
to that equation too, but we're not living In an
1367
01:11:07.270 --> 01:11:10.500
ivory glass tower, we're certainly talking about what we think,
1368
01:11:10.579 --> 01:11:14.039
in your opinion and many others, where America is and
1369
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:16.560
how do we retain it so that we, of course,
1370
01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:19.399
do not wind up going down the drain. And what
1371
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:22.500
did Benjamin Franklin say, among many other things, a republic
1372
01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:26.159
if you can keep it. Very interesting commentary. We're almost
1373
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:28.000
at the bottom of the hour. Isn't that amazing, Drew,
1374
01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:31.329
how quickly the time goes? And obviously, we try to
1375
01:11:31.369 --> 01:11:34.289
do it as much purposefulness as getting so many people
1376
01:11:34.350 --> 01:11:36.979
on the air. This is the big one. This is
1377
01:11:37.020 --> 01:11:38.960
the big one, folks, and we can talk more about it.
1378
01:11:39.010 --> 01:11:42.909
You get the opening act. Family, the cornerstone of society.
1379
01:11:43.470 --> 01:11:46.649
In your opinion, the degradation of family in what's happened
1380
01:11:46.689 --> 01:11:49.300
from the past to today. In about a minute and
1381
01:11:49.340 --> 01:11:52.220
a half, start it, if you would be so kind, sir,
1382
01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.359
and then we'll carry it on with the many callers
1383
01:11:54.380 --> 01:11:56.659
that are still looking to hear what we have to say,
1384
01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:58.079
but know what you have to say.
1385
01:11:58.380 --> 01:12:02.170
Go ahead. Well, sure. I mean, look, the nuclear family,
1386
01:12:02.390 --> 01:12:05.210
a father, a mother and their children are the backbone
1387
01:12:05.229 --> 01:12:08.489
of any healthy society. Certainly this society is what built
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01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:11.140
this society. You know, what's fascinating is you can look
1389
01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:15.140
at the proof in the black population because it's so
1390
01:12:15.180 --> 01:12:18.689
fascinating because prior to the Civil Rights Act, You had
1391
01:12:18.729 --> 01:12:21.710
two societies, and it was horrible, of course, with Jim Crow,
1392
01:12:21.729 --> 01:12:23.630
and of course the Democrats were the champions of this.
1393
01:12:25.149 --> 01:12:28.489
But black families were intact, and they were successful before
1394
01:12:28.510 --> 01:12:32.260
the government got involved. It's a stunning thing to acknowledge
1395
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:37.140
that black families actually had greater success and prosperity before
1396
01:12:37.180 --> 01:12:41.880
the Civil Rights Act that LBJ passed. And he replaced
1397
01:12:41.970 --> 01:12:45.829
fathers with a welfare state, a welfare check in the
1398
01:12:45.869 --> 01:12:49.220
place of dads. And now we see that the greatest
1399
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:55.000
example of people that are– you know, find themselves in
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01:12:55.039 --> 01:12:59.439
situations where they become criminals or selling drugs or, you know,
1401
01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:01.520
et cetera, is in the black community because of their
1402
01:13:01.539 --> 01:13:05.939
dependence on the government. And so, uh, I mean, it, it,
1403
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:09.399
it's a no brainer and also, also that's, that's God's design, right?
1404
01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:12.590
So if you look at the degradation of society, everywhere
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01:13:12.600 --> 01:13:17.670
where we reject, uh, God's, uh, truth, uh, that is
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where we find, um, the greatest collapse, right?
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We'll have to hold it right there, Drew, as you know,
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in radio and television, the heartbreak has, of course, its
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own rules and regulations. We see your calls, line one,
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Saul in the Bronx, line four, John in New York,
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line five, Tony in New Jersey, and line three, Russ
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in White Plains. We'll do our very best, and we
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01:13:37.949 --> 01:13:40.989
don't apologize, but we do our very best because we
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01:13:41.029 --> 01:13:43.250
know you care out there and we care about you.
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The phone number here, the contact number, save it for
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01:13:46.210 --> 01:13:52.369
the perpetuity of the Dr. Skye experience, 1-800-848-7000. 9-2-2-2. And
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01:13:52.409 --> 01:13:55.829
as I mentioned before, tomorrow, less than 24 hours a day,
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24 hours, excuse me, we return to the main themes
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01:13:59.470 --> 01:14:02.729
of astronomy, space, aviation, and weather with Tom Harris of
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01:14:02.770 --> 01:14:06.800
the International Climate Coalition talking about why you may be
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01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:10.140
wondering why the temperatures are so high and why, of course,
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01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:13.060
there are so many in the Pacific region, I should say,
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01:14:13.180 --> 01:14:17.729
Pacific Ocean, typhoons and hurricanes, and not one in the
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01:14:17.810 --> 01:14:21.340
Atlantic Ocean at this point in time. Very strange. But
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01:14:21.380 --> 01:14:22.439
you've come to the right place.
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01:14:22.739 --> 01:14:23.199
The Dr.
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01:14:23.220 --> 01:14:25.560
Sky Experience. We'll be right back.
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01:14:25.619 --> 01:14:30.239
The Dr. Sky Experience on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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I'm sending this message into the void.
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Through the ruins of stars that time has destroyed. Can
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01:14:49.779 --> 01:14:53.210
you hear me out there? In the sea of the night?
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01:14:56.470 --> 01:14:57.770
Or am I just a shadow?
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Chasing the light.
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Wait for me. In the echoes.
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Time is not abundant and life not guaranteed. Our solemn
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tribute to those that perished on 9-11 a generation ago
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and the sad assassination a year and a day of
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Charlie Kirk. Our special guest, Drew Thomas Allen, his book,
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The Martyrdom of Charlie Kirk for Christ and Country. We
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continue with you, Drew, and the callers here. Let's go
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to Saul on line one. You've been patient in the Bronx.
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Good morning. How are you?
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Hello, gentlemen. The thing about Charlie Kirk that really disturbed
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me is that his security team, I would see his
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videos sometimes on my smartphone, and he was engaging. He
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loved that kind of stuff with the students, and he
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was good. But I always thought his security was totally lacking.
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And I don't understand, even because if you remember, just
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a few months earlier, I mean, a year earlier, you
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had the Trump thing in Pennsylvania, in Florida.
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Absolutely.
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And they didn't beef up that security. But the thing is,
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I was shocked to hear you guys. So you support
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all these third worlders coming in here. You're actually in
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on the invasion of America. They're coming in here. How
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do you think Dearborn got the way it is? Because
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people converted? College kids?
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No.
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Immigrants?
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I'm confused.
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I keep hearing you guys support this. Who said that?
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When did either of us say we support Third World
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was coming in here? I'm confused.
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Go ahead, Drew. I want to clarify it after you're
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finished because this is a very important line in the
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sand here. Go ahead, Drew. This is interesting.
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Well, I mean, I've spent my career opposing this. I mean,
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I've been outspoken about Mamdani. I've been outspoken about Third
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Worlders and the Democrats' plans in terms of replacement programs.
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uh you know uh theory which is theirs not mine
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it's not a conspiracy theory so i i just don't
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understand i mean is there confusion about me and being
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in line with charlie kirk and charlie kirk support third
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world was coming like i just where's this where's it
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coming from what's what's.
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The question here no go ahead so you have a
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right to respond here but i just want to say
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yeah okay well let me put it this way i'll
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say it from my side of the equation i think
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Drew has.
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Expressed himself very clearly.
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Well, either way, but look, let me be fair to
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whoever is calling here to a degree. All I'm going
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to say, and I'm not the most important star on
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the stage here, I'm just the host, and I value that.
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I support legal immigration, and that means you go out
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and you vet the people that are coming in to
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the very best, as opposed to illegal immigration. You've expressed
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it very well, Drew. And that's not, you know, so
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please don't put words in our mouths because we certainly
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will come back and defend ourselves in a righteous way
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when we're having conversation. We continue here. Line number four,
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John in New York. You've been patient. You're on the air.
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Go ahead, sir.
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Yes. First, let me just mention this as a 9-11 aside.
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I'm a graduate of Stuyvesant High School, which was the
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recovery center for 9-11. for several weeks immediately after the
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terrorist attacks. And to this day, I think about both
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the faculty and students who were seriously ill, and some
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of my favorite teachers I knew at Stuyvesant when it
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was at its former location, not near the World Trade Center,
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but another part of Manhattan. Tragically, they had passed away.
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Very sad.
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9-11 disease.
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As for Charlie Kirk, I don't approve of his assassination,
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and yet, as a registered Republican, I strongly disagree with
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what he said in even during his friendly debate with others.
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And what concerns me, I'm trained as a scientist. Charlie
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Kirk was a science denier. He rejected the reality of
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biological evolution, which is important if you want to understand epidemiology,
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which is medical evolution of biology, for example, or the
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new field of evolutionary medicine. And Rightly or wrongly, he
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joined forces with those people who were promoting anti-vaxxism in
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light of what may or may not have happened with
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the COVID vaccines back in 2020. So these are two
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key issues I strongly disagree with with regards to Charlie Kirk.
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And I hope, too, at least you did cover some
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of this in your book.
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Well, John, I appreciate your perspective. Drew, we're pretty much
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short on time, so I want to have you respond
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to him. Let's move forward with the callers. And, John,
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thank you for your insight. But go ahead, Drew.
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01:20:10.420 --> 01:20:11.779
Well, I think that if you're going to bring up
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the COVID vaccine, you're making a point that we've been
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01:20:15.300 --> 01:20:18.060
lied to and the so-called scientists, so we're not interested
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in science at all, given the fact that Fauci went
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out of his way and all the emails that have
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been declassified that we've seen have where he acknowledged that
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there were issues with that vaccine. And in fact, he
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changed the definition of vaccine because the COVID vaccine wasn't
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doing what vaccines supposedly throughout history were supposed to do.
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So I don't really know what he's talking about. I
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don't know how you would undermine all of Charlie Kirk's
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work by saying he's a science denier. The science deniers
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are the people that forced the COVID vaccine on everybody,
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knowing that it didn't work, that it didn't do what
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they said it would do, like Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.
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Now it's MSNBC telling everybody that, you know, if you
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01:20:58.590 --> 01:21:01.279
get this vaccine, you know, the virus stops. You can't
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get it. We know that's not true. So actually, the
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COVID era did more damage to the scientific community than
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it did to themselves and anything I've ever seen.
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In my life.
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Thank you, John, in New York. Let's continue here. Time
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is of the essence here. Line 5, Tony in New Jersey.
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Once again, she's a regular caller. Good morning. You're on
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with Drew Thomas Howe.
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Hi, Dr.
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Skye. Hi, Drew.
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Good evening.
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You know, I really appreciate where you're coming from because biblically,
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as I just look tonight, I think about, you know,
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how we lost Charlie Kirk, which to me, you know,
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in my heart, I feel he should be here except
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for one person who had an issue with obeying the
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law and had a crazy streak in him. And the
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other thing is when I think of 9-11 and I
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was there in the.
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Area, I think of all those people should still be here.
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And, you know, Dr. Skye, you were saying, what do
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I think is the solution?
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And to me, Dr.
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Skye, everything is biblically based.
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And the Bible tells us, if you look at our
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New Testament scriptures, sort of founding fathers, Peter and Paul,
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that God gave us the government.
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To protect the people and to protect us from crime
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and to punish. Peter uses the term evildoers, you know,
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and to, you know, because of the sin condition, we
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need to deal with punishing. And that's what's missing to me.
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When I think of the woman today who said when
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she was giving birth, you know, at the 9-11 ceremony
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in New York, she said, you know, why aren't we
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01:22:34.260 --> 01:22:38.760
dealing with Saudi Arabia and, you know, the whole resolution
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to this matter? You know, when you think of, and
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I'll just leave it at this, when you think of
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what happened in World War II, we had the Nuremberg trials.
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They had them. And there was, that was a very
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definitive pronouncement on the evil that was done. And now
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we're just living in a world and, you know, we
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trust in God because that's He's our hope. But we're
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living in a world that doesn't have this sort of
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regularity to it, this, you know, looking toward God. And
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that's a big part of it. That's what's missing. And
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our government has been so lacking that it's like, you know,
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just come and do it again. You know, 93, it
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happened at the World Trade Center. And there was so
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many feelings about that because we knew they were going
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to come back. They said they were. And yet we
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still weren't prepared for 9-11.
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Well, Ramsey Youssef, when he was detained, when he was
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talking about the 93 bombing at the World Trade Center,
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they said to him, the FBI, I gather, or the agents, well,
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you didn't take the buildings down. And I think his
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comment without a direct quote was, not yet. And look
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what happened. You're absolutely right. Drew, press for time on this,
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but Tony, always great, insightful commentary. We appreciate you. Drew,
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01:23:51.989 --> 01:23:52.569
your commentary.
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Well, I mean, this is a critical challenge we face,
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and it's about people stepping up and doing the right
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01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:01.760
thing and speaking the truth in the face of all
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01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:05.899
these different factions that want to continue to condone this
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01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:07.500
evil and allow it to happen. I mean, there were
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01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:11.779
documents released today, emails, classified documents, going from 1998 all
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01:24:11.939 --> 01:24:15.449
the way up to 2001 that showed that the president,
1606
01:24:15.489 --> 01:24:18.630
both Clinton and then obviously Bush, under which the Twin
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01:24:18.649 --> 01:24:23.319
Towers fell, They were briefed on Osama bin Laden's plan
1608
01:24:23.460 --> 01:24:29.050
to exploit a gap in security with airplanes and use
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01:24:29.090 --> 01:24:31.789
them to bring the towers down. They clearly didn't take
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01:24:31.829 --> 01:24:34.989
the threat seriously enough. I don't want to open this
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01:24:35.069 --> 01:24:37.930
up to get into a big conversation of conspiracy theories
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01:24:37.949 --> 01:24:41.250
and whatnot, but I think it makes the point that–
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01:24:42.310 --> 01:24:45.010
So we're aware of the dangers we face, and yet
1614
01:24:45.050 --> 01:24:48.760
we do nothing. And so this is a human problem,
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01:24:50.220 --> 01:24:52.659
and we have to address it. I mean, left-wing violence
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01:24:52.720 --> 01:24:54.479
is out of control in this country. It claimed Charlie
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01:24:54.500 --> 01:24:57.180
Kirk's life. And what have we done over the past
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01:24:57.199 --> 01:24:58.640
year to address it? I mean, part of the reason
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01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:01.039
why I book was to bring attention to this. And
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01:25:01.079 --> 01:25:02.979
with the Candace Owens and the Tucker Carlsons and other
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01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:05.560
people out there, I've got to say, accountability didn't come.
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01:25:05.579 --> 01:25:07.100
I mean, they've doubled down on their rhetoric.
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01:25:08.609 --> 01:25:11.489
No, Drew, you're right. And we normally do not cross-promote
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01:25:11.569 --> 01:25:13.789
books here, other people than the guests we have. But
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01:25:13.829 --> 01:25:16.600
last week, Jeffrey Robinson was very powerful. His book, Ash
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01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:19.880
and Honor, The Untold 368 Minutes of 9-11, he goes
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into a long expose with his own detailed research on
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what exactly happened, on the threats that we received from al-Qaeda,
1629
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and where and how that kind of just maybe was
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01:25:30.229 --> 01:25:32.670
thrown into the wastebasket. I don't know all the details,
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but a very interesting and compelling story about what might
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have happened if things were a little different. But we
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01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:41.560
can't think about that because we know what happened. And
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01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:45.810
all we're trying to do here is expose, well, memorialize
1635
01:25:45.850 --> 01:25:49.829
those that died and also the sad assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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01:25:50.409 --> 01:25:52.970
We'll be right back after these commercial announcements, as we
1637
01:25:53.029 --> 01:25:56.920
say here, and important announcements here on the Dr. Sky experience.
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And again, a thank you to Bill and Jackson, our navigators,
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and we call them the Helmsman. We'll do our best
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to get as many people on, and we'll be right back.
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01:26:05.979 --> 01:26:11.329
The Dr. Sky Experience on the Red Apple Podcast Network.
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01:26:12.710 --> 01:26:16.189
Hi, this is Barry Farber. You're listening to Steve Cates.
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He is a man of many words, but much wisdom
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01:26:20.270 --> 01:26:24.760
in those words. Always refuse to be a victim. Fight
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01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:27.420
back legally and responsibly.
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01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:32.119
Evil grows in silence. At 47 minutes after the hour,
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we continue as fast as time flies through the space-time continuum.
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We continue with our callers. We say good morning on
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line two to Peter in New York City. You're on
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01:26:41.350 --> 01:26:43.399
the air with Drew Thomas. How are you doing?
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01:26:43.460 --> 01:26:46.619
You know, a little bit of education is a dangerous thing.
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01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:51.060
To the gentleman that's your guest, how can he explain
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01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:56.670
all the crime and the racial abuse and drug selling
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01:26:56.750 --> 01:27:00.789
and addiction that went on within the white community, especially
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01:27:00.810 --> 01:27:04.029
in The Italians, the Irish, the Jews, whatever, they were
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01:27:04.069 --> 01:27:06.609
never good enough for the white people. So there is
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01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:10.640
some kind of problem deeply embedded in our culture that
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01:27:10.699 --> 01:27:15.800
makes us hate. And for you to be the promoter
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01:27:16.260 --> 01:27:20.140
of good things, you have to read a book and realize, hey,
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watch The Untouchables. You understand?
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01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:26.079
There was any old movie and it wasn't.
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01:27:25.779 --> 01:27:29.850
The black criminals that were destroying America. So sort of
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01:27:29.909 --> 01:27:34.109
calm down your little soliloquy about black families. Of course,
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black families were back then more religious than white families.
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Because when you're desperate and you have nothing, you look
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to a God figure. Unfortunately, Charlie Paul, whatever his name is,
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I didn't know who he was, but he sounds like
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01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:52.920
any other desperate that's spreading an idea that perverts the
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minds of individuals. Thank you and good night.
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Well, Drew, there you go. There's a response for somebody
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01:27:58.970 --> 01:28:00.930
who may not agree with some of the things, as
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we welcome all points of opinion as long as they're
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01:28:02.949 --> 01:28:03.970
in dialogue. What say you?
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Yeah, it's fine. I mean, he's an ignorant person, and
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I say that with love and respect. I don't know
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what his point is. I mean, he seems to be
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upset that I'm pointing out a reality that demographically, you know,
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the black community is in a situation that isn't akin
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to other groups in this country, and it's because of welfare,
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and it's because of what the Democrat Party has done
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to that community. You don't see, you know, the nuclear
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family demise to the extent in any other demographic group
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than the black community. And so I'm here actually defending
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blacks and that community in particular and calling attention. to
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the oppression that they face in the modern day. And
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here's somebody who wants to come back with some ignorant
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rhetoric about it. I mean, I don't even know what
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he's talking about. Like he's bringing up a movie, you know,
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a Hollywood movie to make some point that I'm not
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even sure what he's trying to make, but that's okay. Okay.
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Well, interesting enough, we respect all opinions here, as long
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as they're in dialogue, but then we've heard me say
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that many times. Let's continue. Line number four, Viviana in Brooklyn.
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Good morning, Viviana. You're on with Drew Thomas Allen. How
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are you doing? Thanks for your patience.
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I am so excited about this conversation. Many people have
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forgotten God's biblical mandate to be fruitful and multiply. This
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new generation has caused us not to have our own
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children where we're putting in our values, we are putting
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into them hope for the future, belief in God. What
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01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:49.319
happens now is that we are aborting and the elements
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01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:56.590
in society are targeting black and Latino populations for even
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more and more abortions. So I was thinking of.
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Go ahead, Viviana. We temporarily lost you. I hope we
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didn't lose her.
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Five to six children.
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Go ahead.
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01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:20.609
There's such a diverse disparity between those who are promoting
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01:30:20.729 --> 01:30:24.250
good and those who want evil and want to take
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01:30:24.369 --> 01:30:29.479
over America. This has to stop. People have to start saying, God,
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your plan is more important than my security or my
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01:30:36.359 --> 01:30:39.779
goals to just be me and myself and I.
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Thank you very much for that opportunity.
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No, thank you. Blessings to you. And Drew, another powerful
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01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:50.079
person that talks about what really should be, and she's
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01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:53.479
doing it with, I think, dignity and respect, and her
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01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:55.640
message is very well heard. What say you?
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01:30:57.100 --> 01:31:01.220
Yeah, I mean, what a beautiful person you are. Look,
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01:31:01.260 --> 01:31:02.619
you kind of hit the nail on the head there,
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and I think that what you're getting at, or something
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01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:07.720
I think about a lot, being a father and a husband,
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and looking out at the way young people view the
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01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:17.819
world and their responsibility or lack of today, is that
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01:31:18.539 --> 01:31:24.920
we have celebrated a culture of selfishness, right? So, you know,
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01:31:25.340 --> 01:31:29.500
life is about sacrifice. And as a parent, I have
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01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:33.140
to make decisions because I have two young girls. I
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01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:35.220
can't live my life the way I did as a
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01:31:35.260 --> 01:31:37.920
single person. And that's not a bad thing. That's about
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01:31:37.979 --> 01:31:41.689
growing into what you're supposed to be as a human
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01:31:41.729 --> 01:31:46.189
being living under God. And so what we have that
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01:31:46.250 --> 01:31:49.810
is annihilating society today is a culture of extreme selfishness.
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01:31:49.869 --> 01:31:52.350
So the abortion issue, she was talking about that. That's
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01:31:52.369 --> 01:31:55.119
a great example because people look at children as a burden.
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01:31:55.619 --> 01:31:58.500
It was Michelle Obama even now with her grown kids
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01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:00.960
talk about her children being a burden, preventing her from
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01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:03.319
living her life the way she used to. Well, of course,
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01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:06.390
that's the case. You know, look, I started my own
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PR company recently, Bando PR.
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Absolutely.
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01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:11.800
And when you run a company, you too.
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01:32:11.899 --> 01:32:12.239
You know what?
1742
01:32:12.500 --> 01:32:14.199
You've got a radio show to do on a weekend,
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01:32:14.779 --> 01:32:17.579
and you can't go out with your buddies and drink
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01:32:17.619 --> 01:32:18.939
all night. You know what I mean?
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01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:19.689
Right.
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01:32:19.729 --> 01:32:22.609
There's a lot of preparation for every show. You're right.
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01:32:22.689 --> 01:32:25.170
And exactly. With your company, we wish you great success
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01:32:25.250 --> 01:32:27.630
on this. But I just wanted to jump in here.
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01:32:27.670 --> 01:32:29.550
We're trying to get one more caller on here who's
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01:32:29.590 --> 01:32:32.050
called us before, and I hope he's with us. Line
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number one, Lamar in Atlanta, if you're on with us.
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01:32:35.180 --> 01:32:38.140
Good morning to you from down in Atlanta. How are
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you doing?
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01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:44.479
Good morning, gentlemen. You had somebody call earlier talking about unity,
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01:32:44.539 --> 01:32:47.159
but the one true sourcebook of all wisdom and knowledge
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01:32:47.220 --> 01:32:50.420
tells us how can two walk together unless they be
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01:32:50.460 --> 01:32:53.840
of one mind? What kind of unity, what kind of
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01:32:53.939 --> 01:32:56.390
fellowship can there be between a good man and a
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01:32:56.430 --> 01:32:59.529
wicked man? What kind of fellowship can there be between
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01:32:59.869 --> 01:33:04.050
the children of Avraham Avinu, the Hebrew children who proclaim
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01:33:04.090 --> 01:33:07.529
lakim to life, and those who embrace the culture of death?
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01:33:07.569 --> 01:33:12.760
We're talking about Islam, naturally. Nosa, in the book of Ecclesiastes,
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01:33:12.770 --> 01:33:15.439
we are told that there's a time and a season
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01:33:15.479 --> 01:33:18.579
for every purpose under heaven. There's a time to embrace
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01:33:18.939 --> 01:33:22.159
and a time to refrain from embracing. And that leaves
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01:33:22.359 --> 01:33:25.739
out all the baby killers and all the America haters.
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01:33:26.060 --> 01:33:28.970
There's a time for peace and there's a time for war.
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01:33:29.569 --> 01:33:30.289
The men who.
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01:33:30.229 --> 01:33:34.310
Founded this country were angry men, gentlemen, so angry that
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01:33:34.350 --> 01:33:37.449
when faced with a tyranny of their time, they resorted
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01:33:37.489 --> 01:33:40.560
to violence. I submit to you, if we intend to
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keep ourselves and our progeny, to coin a phrase, A
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01:33:45.340 --> 01:33:48.680
nation bequeathed to us by men better than ourselves, we
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01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:51.880
can do no less. It has been said that violence
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01:33:52.180 --> 01:33:55.260
must be met with superior violence. They've tried to kill
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01:33:55.479 --> 01:33:58.390
President Donald John Trump, the greatest man alive in the
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01:33:58.430 --> 01:34:01.649
world today, several times. They did kill Charlie Kirk, and
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01:34:01.689 --> 01:34:05.229
we stand here wringing our hands and lamenting. This is
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01:34:05.310 --> 01:34:07.789
not the time for hand-wringing. This is a time for
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01:34:07.829 --> 01:34:10.670
what is known in the infantry as direct action.
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01:34:10.989 --> 01:34:13.369
What is needed now is.
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01:34:13.430 --> 01:34:14.710
Did you want to say something?
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01:34:15.189 --> 01:34:17.149
No, Lamar, I want to say you've said it better
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01:34:17.189 --> 01:34:19.949
than I think anybody I have heard so far. And
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01:34:19.989 --> 01:34:22.210
if you were running for office, I would be compelled
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to want to vote for you for the principles you've
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01:34:24.109 --> 01:34:28.340
talked about. Good morning, Lamar. Drew, that's fantastic. How about that?
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01:34:29.739 --> 01:34:32.180
Two things. One, we need to get Lamar's contact information.
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01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:34.859
This is a great man that I want to keep
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in contact with. And secondarily, I want to know if
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01:34:37.520 --> 01:34:40.420
Lamar is a pastor, because if he is, I want
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01:34:40.460 --> 01:34:42.550
to watch him and go to his church online if
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01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:44.569
it's online. And if he's not a pastor, he should
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01:34:44.609 --> 01:34:48.329
be a pastor. But, I mean, those are powerful words,
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01:34:48.409 --> 01:34:53.069
and that's the spirit of America. And he said it
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01:34:53.090 --> 01:34:57.390
better than I could. I mean, it's just... And me too.
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01:34:57.630 --> 01:35:01.609
That's so inspiring and true. And you're right. I've written
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articles and op-eds about this, about how we're a nation
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01:35:05.060 --> 01:35:08.460
and we have irreconcilable differences right now. I mean, how
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01:35:08.539 --> 01:35:10.720
can you... You know, you have Hillary Clinton out there saying,
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01:35:10.739 --> 01:35:12.479
you know, we're running an experiment right now. The only
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01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:15.850
experiment the Democrats won't run is the real American experiment.
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01:35:15.869 --> 01:35:18.909
They're not interested in that one. They created this country. But,
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01:35:18.930 --> 01:35:20.770
you know, the Democrat socialists, you know, we're running an
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01:35:20.789 --> 01:35:21.569
experiment right now.
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01:35:22.149 --> 01:35:24.170
Oh, we haven't even gotten to that, Drew. And I
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01:35:24.210 --> 01:35:26.430
hate to cut it short because time rules in this
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01:35:26.489 --> 01:35:28.569
particular roost. But, you know, you're so right. And I
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01:35:28.609 --> 01:35:33.789
do appreciate everybody. But, Lamar, my email is just drsky
1810
01:35:33.869 --> 01:35:37.020
at wabcradio.com. And if you did send me an email,
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I'll forward that on with your permission to Drew Thomas Allen.
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01:35:42.689 --> 01:35:44.720
And in summation, these are things that I got from
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01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:46.789
your book. And I think this is, I'm saying it,
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01:35:46.819 --> 01:35:49.859
you could say it way better. Our mission to regain
1815
01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:54.520
our nation. One, reclaim the narrative. Two, defend free speech. Three,
1816
01:35:54.689 --> 01:35:59.310
raise up the next generation. Four, re-anchor in faith and family.
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01:35:59.369 --> 01:36:02.630
And five, be courageous. Have I read the book? I
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01:36:02.649 --> 01:36:05.430
think so. There you go. What say you?
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01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:07.310
Oh, yeah.
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01:36:07.409 --> 01:36:09.560
I mean, you know, part of the objective is to
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01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:13.560
encourage people to And in light of these tragedies that
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01:36:13.579 --> 01:36:19.090
have affected us and to encourage people to– what Charlie
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01:36:19.130 --> 01:36:20.869
was so great at and what made him special too
1824
01:36:20.909 --> 01:36:23.750
is he provided solutions. He didn't just sit on his
1825
01:36:23.789 --> 01:36:26.149
show and complain and talk about what was wrong with
1826
01:36:26.170 --> 01:36:30.960
the country. He actually created solutions and then– made those
1827
01:36:30.979 --> 01:36:33.479
things happen in this country. That's how influential he was.
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01:36:34.060 --> 01:36:35.520
And we can do that in our own lives with
1829
01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:38.550
our children, our families, our communities, and it will spread
1830
01:36:38.569 --> 01:36:41.029
from there. No human being, no person listening to the
1831
01:36:41.069 --> 01:36:45.029
show right now is inconsequential. You know, Charlie lived a
1832
01:36:45.069 --> 01:36:48.189
big life and God wants us to live big lives.
1833
01:36:48.229 --> 01:36:51.000
And most of us live small lives because we're afraid.
1834
01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:53.359
And if we can turn to God, we will shed
1835
01:36:53.460 --> 01:36:56.500
our fear and we'll become courageous and we'll become the
1836
01:36:56.920 --> 01:36:59.399
great men and women that he intends us to be
1837
01:36:59.420 --> 01:36:59.899
in our lives.
1838
01:37:00.670 --> 01:37:02.670
Drew, how do people get in touch with you? And
1839
01:37:02.689 --> 01:37:04.470
I appreciate your time. I hope we do this again.
1840
01:37:04.489 --> 01:37:07.220
And as we know, in other big elections coming up here,
1841
01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:09.939
the midterms, maybe we can get you in there before
1842
01:37:09.979 --> 01:37:13.060
that because every vote counts. And obviously the thing we're
1843
01:37:13.100 --> 01:37:16.659
talking about here brings back truth, justice, and the American way.
1844
01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:18.300
And no apology from my side.
1845
01:37:19.739 --> 01:37:23.949
Yeah, look, I mean, you know, subscribe to my Substack, jerome.substack.com.
1846
01:37:23.989 --> 01:37:25.829
You can contact me through there. You can message me
1847
01:37:25.890 --> 01:37:30.090
on X at DrewThomasAllen as well. And I just want
1848
01:37:30.109 --> 01:37:33.770
to express my deepest appreciation. I mean, even the people
1849
01:37:33.810 --> 01:37:37.029
that we disagree with on here, that's part of what
1850
01:37:37.149 --> 01:37:41.390
makes this country great, this experience great. And there's no
1851
01:37:41.430 --> 01:37:45.170
experience like coming on WABC and having all these callers
1852
01:37:45.210 --> 01:37:46.949
that are so interested and engaged.
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01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:50.340
We thank you. Drew Allen, thank you so much. The
1854
01:37:50.380 --> 01:37:52.739
best to you and your family. And let's continue to
1855
01:37:52.779 --> 01:37:55.380
do this again as we talk about ways as I
1856
01:37:55.420 --> 01:37:58.159
say it from time to time, the stories of American exceptionalism.
1857
01:37:58.260 --> 01:38:01.220
Thank you. You have a good morning. Ladies and gentlemen,
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01:38:01.260 --> 01:38:03.680
donate what you can to the Tunnel to Towers Foundation.
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01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:08.819
That's T2, the number 2T, T2T. org. Appreciate all of you
1860
01:38:08.899 --> 01:38:11.979
out there. And in less than 24 hours, we regain
1861
01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:16.140
the conversation with our normal topics, astronomy, space, aviation, weather.
1862
01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:19.779
Tom Harris of the International Climate Science Coalition, a regular
1863
01:38:19.819 --> 01:38:22.560
here on the Dr. Sky Experience. We'll be talking and
1864
01:38:22.590 --> 01:38:25.289
doing a deep dive into the highest temperatures recorded not
1865
01:38:25.350 --> 01:38:29.029
only in the United States, continental United States, the ocean
1866
01:38:29.090 --> 01:38:32.119
temperature at an all-time high. high, the strangeness of the
1867
01:38:32.180 --> 01:38:34.859
Super El Nino and what that really means, and so
1868
01:38:34.899 --> 01:38:37.609
much more as we continue on the Dr. Sky Experience.
1869
01:38:38.050 --> 01:38:42.970
But equally important, stay tuned to 77 WABC for another
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side of midnight as Lionel takes us into the early
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morning hours of And we, of course, say hello to
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our Jewish friends, Rosh Hashanah, as the celebratory new year
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of 5787. Peace, happiness, and clear skies. Thank you. And
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to our helmsmen, both Bill and Jackson, appreciate what you
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do to make the show what you people tell us
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that you enjoy. We'll see you in less than 24 hours.