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You're listening to comedy central.
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From New York City, the only city in America, it's
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That invented news.
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This is The Daily Show with your hosts, Michael Kosta
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and Roddy J.
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Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Michael Kosta.
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And I'm Rodney Chang. That's right, tonight you're getting two
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hoes for the price of one.
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Are they cutting our paychecks in half?
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No, they're just not paying you. All right, so let's
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just get right into the headlines.
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Let's kick things off with some sad news that might
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tug at your heartstrings.
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President Donald Trump might be going to jail. Yeah!
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We all react to grief differently. But yes, prosecutors in
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one of Trump's 400 court cases might have found a
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surprise witness, one of his own lawyers.
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Some breaking news right now.
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Donald Trump's former lawyer just pleaded guilty.
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Sidney Powell is who we're talking about now entering into
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a plea agreement in the Georgia election subversion case. This
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is a deal that comes just one day before her
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trial was due to start. And as part of this
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plea deal, she has agreed that she will testify in
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any future trials, which raises the possibility that she could
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testify against Trump in the future, which obviously is a
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huge deal.
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That's right.
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Sidney Powell might be flipping on the Don. And if
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you don't remember Sidney Powell, she was Trump's craziest lawyer,
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which is amazing considering that Trump's other lawyers included this
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guy and this guy. Being Trump's craziest lawyer is like
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being the most divorced dad at an embassy suites. Embassy suites,
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not an embassy, and definitely not sweet. Now, under this
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plea deal, Powell will avoid prison time, but she will
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have to pay a $ 9, 000 fine and write an apology
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letter to the citizens of Georgia.
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I mean, just a letter? This woman actively tried to
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steal an election. Least she could do is apologize door
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to door like a sex offender.
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Yeah.
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Hi, I'm Sidney Powell. I molested democracy. Good point, Ronnie.
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At the very least, you should write an apology to
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Mike Pence for almost getting him hanged. I mean, obviously,
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he won't read it because he considers receiving mail from
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a woman to be a form of sex, but it's
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good etiquette.
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I mean, Kosta, I got to say, you know, Sidney
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Poirot sounds like a pretty great lawyer, to be honest.
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I mean, man, she got treason down to an apology letter. Like,
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that's amazing negotiation. Is she still practicing? Because I might
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want to hire her.
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No, why would you hire a criminal lawyer? You have
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legal problems?
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No, nothing major. Just some minor drug trafficking.
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Drug trafficking? Like fentanyl?
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Oh, no, anything you want, man. I can hook you up.
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All right, let's move on to some breaking news from
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the world of A.I.s. Every day, people are using AI
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for groundbreaking things like cheating on their homework or drawing
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the Mona Lisa with giant boobs. But now, researchers are
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using it to unlock ancient human mysteries.
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Artificial intelligence, or AI, is allowing researchers at the University
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of Kentucky to read an ancient scroll burned by Mount Vesuvius.
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Now the scrolls are too fragile to unfurl, but UK's Dr.
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Brent Seals and his team of researchers have developed technology
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to try and read what's on the scrolls without opening them.
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One word that's already been deciphered is purple, but a
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more recent discovery has given scientists more to translate.
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Wow. Purple.
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I mean, I was hoping for ancient wisdom, or like,
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how to summon a demon, but yeah, you know, mixing
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red and blue is cool too, I guess. Although, if
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we can't read the scroll ourselves, how do we know
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if the AI is right? What, we're just gonna trust it?
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Because chat GBT told me three days ago that Gandhi
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invented the cinnamon challenge, so.
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Anyway, it's also a waste of time, because I already
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know what's going to be on that scroll, OK? It's
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going to be someone writing, hey, sure hope that volcano
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doesn't kill everyone in town.
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Purple.
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Yeah.
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I mean, do we want to know what ancient people
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have to say? We always think it's going to be
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something profound, but it's always just, it's human.
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It's going to be.
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Something racist, don't you think? Yeah. I mean, think about
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how racist your grandpa was.
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He's 60 years older than you imagine if he was
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just 2,000 years older.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to read someone's 2,000-year-old tweets.
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And I agree.
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Also, what are we looking for in there? What kind
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of wisdom? How smart can these people be? They put
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the most important documents next to a volcano.
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That's true.
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And they say it's too delicate to unravel.
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Well, how do you know? Have you tried to unravel it?
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Yeah, good point.
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Yeah.
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Just pick the least important looking one and open it.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll. Open the scroll. Let's move on.
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Open the scroll.
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Let's move on to America's new.
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Let's move on to America's new national pastime, book banning.
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States around the country are trying to ban any books
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that expose their children to diversity. But now one prominent
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children's book publisher is standing up and saying, hey, we
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can help you with that.
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Changes are coming to school book fairs after several states
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passed laws limiting discussions of race and gender in schools.
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Scholastic announced its fairs will now have a separate section
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for books covering race, gender, and sexuality.
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The new Diverse Books category includes 64 titles, such as
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biographies of Malala and LeBron James, as well as books
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about same-sex families. Schools can opt to exclude all these
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books from their sales.
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Hold on. Hold on.
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Yeah.
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So now bigots can just check a box, and now
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all the books.
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Will be removed?
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Come on, guys.
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If you're going to be racist and sexist, you can't
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also be lazy. You got to put the work in.
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You go through the books and find all the race
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and gender stuff yourself.
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And who knows?
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Maybe if you actually take the time to read these
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books that you think are so terrible, actually absorb them,
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You might just find out that all kids' books are terrible,
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you know?
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I love you, Rodney, man.
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Yeah.
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For more on this story, let's go live to an
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elementary school not far from here with our senior book for.
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Expert, Troy Wada. Troy, Troy, it's a real.
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Scandal keeping kids from reading these classic books.
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No, no, I think they should be kept from kids.
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Have you actually read some of these books? They get
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really graphic.
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I mean, James Crosby.
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Right up inside that peach.
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Like, like right up in there.
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Troy, come on.
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Even if some of these books are a little mature,
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kids should be able to buy them if they're curious.
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No, the last thing we need is a bunch of
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bi-curious kids. That is no way to treat our children,
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your children.
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I don't have them.
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Kids are disgusting.
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Okay, look, Troy, we all think kids are disgusting, okay?
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You're not special.
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But do you really believe these books are going to
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warp kids' minds?
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Actually, if I could get personal for a second, I
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am a living example of how damaging these books can be.
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When I was in school, I read a Japanese manga book,
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and look at me now. I am half Japanese.
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Wait, the book turned you half Japanese?
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Yeah, and why only half?
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Well, I didn't finish it.
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But....
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As you can see, the damage was done. That's how
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influential books are.
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Okay, so I guess the solution is to separate the books.
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No, actually, separating them has been a disaster. Have you
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ever told a child that they can't have something? It
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becomes the only thing they want. These kids have stormed
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the forbidden section like it was a Nickelodeon version of
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January 6th. They beat Cocomelon with a flagpole.
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There was even.
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There was poop on Nancy's desk, but that was because
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a first grader had an accident.
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They must have read that book, Everyone Poops.
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Okay, well, Troy, I'm still reading that, so no spoilers, please.
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Look, man, if banning books doesn't work, then how can
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schools protect kids?
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Well, I think the only answer is a compromise. Stop
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banning books, but also stop teaching kids how to read. Oh.
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Okay, that works for me. Troy Iwata, everybody.
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Yeah.
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When we come back, you'll find out why President Biden
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talks the way he.
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Does and don't go away. Good job.
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Welcome back to The Daily Show.
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President Biden addressed the nation tonight on the war in
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the Middle East. Luckily, he has a special skill when
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it comes to speaking, and we found the guy who
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taught it to him.
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All right, testing levels. Let me know if you can
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hear this. I'm Joe Biden. Soul of America.
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Scranton.
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That works for me. I'm Nolan Peacock, and I'm Joe
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Biden's senior whisper advisor.
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I don't in any way dismiss what Senator Murphy says
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about the environment.
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I don't dismiss it at all. So she reminded him,
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I wrote the bill on the environment. Before the president
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gives any speech, it's my job to comb through it
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and find the most jarring moments for him to whisper.
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All right, what do you think about this? 1.9 trillion. Yeah,
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that's the spot right there.
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$ 1.
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9 trillion relief.
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They're going to be getting checks in the mail this
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week for child care. Here's my idol, old Teddy Roosevelt.
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You all remember what he said, right? Speak softly. And
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carry a big stick. What's that? And carry a big stick.
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I'm not familiar. You may wonder, why whisper? I'll tell
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you why.
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Sorry, what'd you say? Exactly.
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You see, now you're interested. As a whisper advisor, you're
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always looking for new inspirations, honing your craft. In fact, lately,
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I've been experimenting with something I like to call reverse whispering.
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Think about it.
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Think about what you'd think about at the time.
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Some people question my methods. They'll claim there's no good
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reason for a president to suddenly whisper in the middle
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of a speech. A lot of attention today.
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Whispers from President Biden lighting up social media, where the
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hashtag Creepy Joe started gaining traction very quickly.
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I don't understand why he keeps doing the creepy whisper thing.
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What's with the creepy whispering all the time? But when
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President Biden nails a whisper so unexpected, so borderline confusing,
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you wonder if you're hallucinating? Guess what? He grows the economy.
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All right, when we come back wilderness survivalist Jordan Jonas
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Welcome back to The Daily Show.
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My guest tonight is a wilderness guide and self-reliance expert
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who won season six of the History Channel show alone.
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Please welcome Jordan Jonas. So thanks for coming to New
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York City.
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Yeah, what an honor. Thanks for the invite. Now I'm
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in your world.
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Yeah, you're in my world now. We were trying to
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get a hold of you. You live in Montana.
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Yeah.
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The booking department was freaking out. You're going to make
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your flight. You weren't responding to anything. And then they
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told me you sent this text yesterday. I literally just gasped.
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on a horse for the last 10 miles in the
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wilderness so I'd be able to catch my flight in
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the morning.
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Ha, ha, ha.
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So this isn't like a bullshit act.
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You are a wilderness guy.
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I was in the woods. Yeah, I was a fast horse, fortunately.
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So I made it out.
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Yeah.
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You won season six of History Channels alone. You spent
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77 days alone in the Arctic.
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You killed a moose with a bow and arrow.
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Then a wolverine was trying to steal your moose meat,
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so you killed that.
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With a hatchet.
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Doggy dog world out there.
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You figured out a way to fish in the frozen tundra,
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which helped you win. Tell me about winning alone.
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Oh, man, what a.
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I never pictured that as being a career opportunity. No,
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it was an incredible experience, man. Nothing like the pressure
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of getting dropped off on a helicopter, and you don't
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get another meal until you catch it.
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I didn't like that indefinitely.
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But you also get the pure joy that's almost hard
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to replicate. Every time you catch a fish or a
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rabbit or whatever it is, it's pure joy.
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And I liked that all the way up until the end, which.
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I mean, I think it's sometimes, we get so jaded
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watching reality TV.
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I mean, this is, you're alone. No one's giving you
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granola bars and saying like, here's a salmon filet. I mean,
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it's really a survival show.
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It is, it is.
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It's cool.
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It's like so.
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It feels so similar to what all of our ancestors
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used to go through on a daily basis, just trying
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to survive, trying to make your way forward. And all
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of our dopamine, serotonin, and all that is lined up
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with that experience. The modern life's a bit of a hack,
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but now our serotonin is released through life.
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I do my hunting online.
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Yeah, yeah.
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When you're dropped off in that situation, are you thinking,
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I need big game like a moose? I need reliable fishing.
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I mean, what's the strategy? Because you kill a moose,
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then you have to do something with the moose.
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Right.
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Well, my initial thought, I mean, for sure, my main
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concern was food.
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Like I thought, I'm a skinny guy. I'm going to
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starve out here.
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Yeah.
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So I was all focused on food. I thought I'm
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going to catch a bunch of fish, make a pile
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of fish, and bait a bear in and hunt that.
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But I didn't catch many fish to begin with and
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no bear. So I got an opportunity at a moose
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and just rolled from there.
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Amazing.
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Tell me about where some of this skill set came from.
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Because this story fascinates me, and it seems to have
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really affected me your view on the world and affected
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who you are.
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Yeah, when I was in my early 20s, I went
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over to Russia and spent a bunch of time living
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with nomadic reindeer herders.
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Sure.
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Anyway, next question. You do that in your 20s. As
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you do. Yeah. No, but it was a fascinating experience.
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I didn't even know people really still live like that
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until I basically dropped off at the teepee. But they're nomadic,
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live in the wilderness year round, follow the herds through
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the woods. And I learned a ton from them. And
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they all, of course, became good friends. And I spent
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a lot of years living with them.
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I should be honest with our audience.
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Jordan and I have met before, and I took one
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of your wilderness expeditions.
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My wife and I started to watch.
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Alone during COVID, as a lot of people did, and
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were just blown away at the show, and also you,
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because you had all this amazing skill set.
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You could feed yourself.
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You could survive, but then there also seemed to be
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a connection and humility with nature that was really beautiful.
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And now I know you, I know that's all bullshit.
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So my wife.
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Buys me for my birthday this wilderness survival expedition with Jordan. Honestly,
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after the COVID, I think she was just trying to
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kill me. This is me on the right, and this is,
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I can't even explain to you everything about this, but
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I flew to Missoula, Montana.
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I drove four and a half hours.
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Then I got on a horseback for eight hours with
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you and nine other.
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People whose partners were trying to kill them.
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We were at 13,000 feet maybe in the Bitterroot Mountains.
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Yeah, about 10,000.
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10,000 feet.
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Let me exaggerate a little bit.
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Okay.
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And you really taught us some things in a really gentle,
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kind way. There's a picture of you teaching us how
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to trap some small animals. What is this trapping device?
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Talk to these big city folk about this.
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You guys all know about this. That's like basically a
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mouse or a rat trap. It's called a Paiute deadfall,
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but that's one of the... If you don't trap the
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mice that are harassing you at night, you'll have a
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miserable survival experience.
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I thought that would be particularly helpful for so many
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New Yorkers.
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Yeah, I know. That's what it is. That's an excellent
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trap to learn.
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You were so kind to me. One day, we were
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walking on the mountain. We see this lake, and... I
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don't know if you didn't have an itinerary or if
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out in the wilderness you don't have an itinerary.
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No schedule.
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Yeah, so you go, do you guys want to walk
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down to that lake? And we're like, yeah. Of course,
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it took all day. It's exhausting. And we get down
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to the lake, and we're We start fishing, but we
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just had a little bit of fishing line. I remember
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you handed me this casting reel.
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I had a hook.
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I threw the casting reel in the lake. It was
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holding on to my hook. But it was not natural
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for me. Is it important for you to introduce people
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to nature in this way? You could have easily been like,
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Jesus Christ, you threw the wrong thing into the lake.
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No, I actually love it, man.
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I feel like it's so important for people, especially in
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the modern world, to... be able to escape, and I love,
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you know, it's awesome to be able to empower people
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to go out there and experience what nature does have
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to offer.
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Who did that for you? Where did you learn?
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Well, I kind of grew up on a farm in Idaho,
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and that helped, but I really learned a lot living
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with the natives, I'd say. You know, that's kind of what's...
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set my knowledge base apart.
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You know? Yeah, yeah.
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So then Jordan just grabs like some fishing rod, a
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piece of stick and some fishing line and he just gets.
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Like 11 fish. Here's a picture of that.
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That's where we camped that night and then he, Didn't
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just cook them like rudimentary style. He did a nice
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little smoke. Here's the fire with the fish on it.
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You know, tell us about that.
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Oh, yeah. Alder, you know, so up in the northern regions,
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alder's a great smoking wood.
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So I like to lay those green alder sticks down
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on top of the coals, put your fish on top
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of that.
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Delicious.
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It was excellent.
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Tell me about, let's say... Hunting, people can have a
501
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:01.759
reaction to hunting. Big game hunting. It's easy for me
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00:27:01.859 --> 00:27:03.809
to see pictures online and see this thing and go,
503
00:27:03.819 --> 00:27:06.720
I don't like this, you're killing an animal. I also
504
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:09.289
feel like you care a lot about nature and conservation.
505
00:27:09.789 --> 00:27:11.089
How can those two be connected?
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00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:11.670
Tell me that.
507
00:27:11.690 --> 00:27:15.650
That's actually a really fascinating question. I think we are,
508
00:27:15.710 --> 00:27:18.069
no matter what we think, we're a part of nature.
509
00:27:18.750 --> 00:27:22.789
And in my experience, people who hunt, who rely on
510
00:27:22.849 --> 00:27:26.299
nature to you know, feed themselves or families. There's almost,
511
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:28.779
there's few people that are more in tune with the
512
00:27:28.819 --> 00:27:30.960
health of a particular ecosystem because.
513
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You rely on it.
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So though you do take individual animals at times, you know,
515
00:27:36.369 --> 00:27:41.630
according to all the laws and all that, you're also really,
516
00:27:41.890 --> 00:27:45.630
you know, wishing the best for the species and working to,
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00:27:46.289 --> 00:27:51.420
you know, provide that through via conservation, which is, you know,
518
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.799
when you're hunting, you're paying money into the system. They
519
00:27:53.819 --> 00:27:57.079
put that money back into the science and the habitat
520
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:02.450
protection that protects animals. So interestingly enough, the good news is,
521
00:28:02.509 --> 00:28:05.670
is we've done a great job of conservation and have brought,
522
00:28:05.730 --> 00:28:08.190
you know, white tail and elk and all these animals
523
00:28:08.230 --> 00:28:11.670
that from the brink of extinction to, you know, thriving
524
00:28:11.730 --> 00:28:18.740
numbers through, um, ethical hunting, you know? I can understand
525
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:26.319
the kind of the....
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00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:24.039
The knee jerk.
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00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:24.980
The knee jerk, yeah.
528
00:28:25.009 --> 00:28:27.660
You see these pictures in it, you know, but I
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00:28:27.700 --> 00:28:30.430
think one thing that really was beneficial for me, I
530
00:28:30.490 --> 00:28:35.819
am not a hunter, but I definitely... fished and killed
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00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.160
a grouse that week because I was starving.
532
00:28:40.140 --> 00:28:42.210
And you said, we're only going to eat what we
533
00:28:42.250 --> 00:28:44.789
can procure for the next 36 hours.
534
00:28:44.809 --> 00:28:47.430
Well, guess what? Costa doesn't really procure much.
535
00:28:51.329 --> 00:28:54.950
But man, this is going to be silly to you
536
00:28:54.970 --> 00:28:57.230
and maybe silly to everybody else. But when I took
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00:28:57.490 --> 00:29:01.240
this little grouse's life, it really meant something. And it
538
00:29:01.299 --> 00:29:02.160
was sad to me.
539
00:29:03.059 --> 00:29:07.720
But we then... cleaned it, we cooked it that night.
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00:29:07.789 --> 00:29:09.509
It was my dinner. And I just thought on the
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00:29:09.549 --> 00:29:11.170
flight home, I made a lot of notes. I had
542
00:29:11.230 --> 00:29:13.569
so much I had to be thankful for. I was like,
543
00:29:13.589 --> 00:29:15.950
I'd never been that close to my food before.
544
00:29:15.970 --> 00:29:16.910
You appreciate it so much.
545
00:29:16.930 --> 00:29:19.009
I go to the grocery store. I buy four pounds
546
00:29:19.049 --> 00:29:21.299
of whatever. Three of it goes in the trash. I mean,
547
00:29:21.339 --> 00:29:23.720
it's like, man, that was like such a different connection.
548
00:29:23.740 --> 00:29:24.960
And that's gone for the most.
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00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:26.440
Part from us. Yeah, I know.
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00:29:26.460 --> 00:29:28.619
I think we've all been disconnected. We were talking about
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00:29:28.779 --> 00:29:29.720
packaging earlier.
552
00:29:29.740 --> 00:29:29.960
Right.
553
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:31.859
You know, everything that's coming in a package. That was Ronnie.
554
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:32.640
He's the other guy. But yeah.
555
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:39.359
But, yeah.
556
00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:42.539
It's important to have that connection with our food. Otherwise,
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00:29:42.579 --> 00:29:44.299
it just all happens on a farm or in a
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00:29:44.339 --> 00:29:47.019
field somewhere. And you can act like you're not a
559
00:29:47.059 --> 00:29:47.740
part of the system.
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00:29:47.789 --> 00:29:49.910
But we are. So we should do our job well.
561
00:29:49.990 --> 00:29:54.289
Yeah. I bought your axe. Ooh. Okay. You got any
562
00:29:54.329 --> 00:29:57.430
potted plants? People on the subway were looking at me weird. But, yeah.
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00:29:59.529 --> 00:30:02.349
Tell me about this style. You used a similar ax
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00:30:02.430 --> 00:30:05.609
on Alone. And tell me some of the characteristics of
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00:30:05.650 --> 00:30:07.890
this ax. To me, an ax is for chopping wood
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00:30:07.910 --> 00:30:11.089
you buy at the gas station when you're on vacation.
567
00:30:11.150 --> 00:30:13.329
But you actually used it as a survival tactic.
568
00:30:13.369 --> 00:30:16.549
Yes, I'm a real connoisseur of a good ax.
569
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.380
Has anybody at The Daily Show ever had an ax
570
00:30:19.430 --> 00:30:20.200
out here before?
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Absolutely not.
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00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:24.700
So the features, I kind of combined all the things
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00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:28.799
I like in an axe into one. It's the right length,
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00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:32.640
the right weight and size. It's got a single bevel edge,
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00:30:32.700 --> 00:30:34.259
which if you'd like to.
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00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:36.750
Pull that off. Watch, I'll do this and I'll cut myself.
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00:30:36.970 --> 00:30:38.210
Yeah, careful. Sharp.
578
00:30:38.349 --> 00:30:40.390
They are sharp. So this is, here, I'll let you
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00:30:40.410 --> 00:30:40.750
do it.
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00:30:40.930 --> 00:30:44.769
Why am I doing this? So there you go. It's
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00:30:44.829 --> 00:30:47.349
sharpened from one side so that you're.
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00:30:47.269 --> 00:30:49.789
Left-handed, I see. So if I was left-handed, it's got
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00:30:49.829 --> 00:30:52.230
that flat edge. I can carve and whittle like that
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00:30:52.269 --> 00:30:54.809
really well. Chop trees down.
585
00:30:55.230 --> 00:30:57.349
You use the X for so much more than chopping
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trees down.
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00:30:57.970 --> 00:30:58.369
You do.
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00:30:58.410 --> 00:31:01.450
You do a lot of carving and building things for
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00:31:01.490 --> 00:31:02.549
yourself when you're out there.
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00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.059
And so that's why I like that single bevel.
591
00:31:05.380 --> 00:31:08.859
It's got a slip-on tomahawk-style head, which is what the Avenki,
592
00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:10.480
the native folks, did in Russia.
593
00:31:10.940 --> 00:31:12.420
It just makes it easier to repair.
594
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:16.359
You have a little wedge, and it's got kind of
595
00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:19.369
the Siberian design, which I like, wide cutting edge.
596
00:31:19.849 --> 00:31:20.549
It's very cool.
597
00:31:20.650 --> 00:31:22.259
Yeah. It's a sweet little app.
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00:31:22.269 --> 00:31:23.890
I feel like a poser that I have it, but
599
00:31:23.910 --> 00:31:25.609
there's still.
600
00:31:25.829 --> 00:31:28.140
Well, like I said, I don't see any plants in here.
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00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:29.599
Any potted plants around here. So you must have been
602
00:31:29.619 --> 00:31:33.970
putting it to work. You've come a long way to
603
00:31:34.029 --> 00:31:38.150
chat with me. I really appreciate it. Your Instagram is fascinating.
604
00:31:38.190 --> 00:31:41.339
There's so many great videos and pictures of you with
605
00:31:41.380 --> 00:31:42.519
your kids doing this stuff.
606
00:31:44.819 --> 00:31:45.539
What's the goal there?
607
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.069
I mean, if it's a kid, my kid, I take
608
00:31:48.089 --> 00:31:50.609
my kid to the tennis court, and she stands in
609
00:31:50.630 --> 00:31:53.230
the corner and kicks leaves. Are you worried your kids
610
00:31:53.269 --> 00:31:55.049
aren't going to love and appreciate nature?
611
00:31:55.109 --> 00:31:55.890
No, that's a good question.
612
00:31:55.910 --> 00:31:59.099
I think they will, but I don't want to force
613
00:31:59.140 --> 00:32:00.980
anything on them. They might come live here, as far
614
00:32:01.019 --> 00:32:03.599
as I know. But I want them to have the.
615
00:32:05.940 --> 00:32:06.920
So it's a great place.
616
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.559
I love when New Yorkers hear.
617
00:32:08.380 --> 00:32:10.440
From other people what they think about New York.
618
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.839
No, but I want him to have the ability to
619
00:32:14.900 --> 00:32:17.400
tap into nature because in the modern world with all
620
00:32:17.420 --> 00:32:21.569
the distractions and all the, you know, psychological issues, there's
621
00:32:21.670 --> 00:32:24.960
almost nothing like being able to get out in nature, disconnect.
622
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.619
You know, and B, understand your thoughts and all that.
623
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.470
And so I wanna make sure they can always have
624
00:32:31.529 --> 00:32:34.130
the skills and ability to create that space for themselves.
625
00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:34.670
And so.
626
00:32:34.869 --> 00:32:37.829
I'm convinced, my daughter's three and a half, I'm convinced
627
00:32:38.049 --> 00:32:40.170
if we take a walk outside and I put my
628
00:32:40.210 --> 00:32:43.569
phone somewhere else, a lot of stuff gets solved.
629
00:32:44.369 --> 00:32:46.890
Just walking together outside, you know?
630
00:32:47.049 --> 00:32:49.940
And that's my little parenting hack.
631
00:32:51.500 --> 00:32:51.660
But.
632
00:32:52.829 --> 00:32:55.690
Is there a survival skill that you could recommend to
633
00:32:55.769 --> 00:32:59.980
everybody to learn? Or is there a hack for connecting
634
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.819
to nature? If you live in a high rise in
635
00:33:01.859 --> 00:33:05.140
the Upper West Side of New York, or Brooklyn, or
636
00:33:05.180 --> 00:33:07.920
you don't have a car, you can't get upstate, you
637
00:33:07.940 --> 00:33:11.809
guys in Montana take all this shit for granted. I
638
00:33:11.849 --> 00:33:15.089
have literally, I have one tree on my street. And
639
00:33:15.930 --> 00:33:17.650
the way people drive, I think, sure, it's going to
640
00:33:17.690 --> 00:33:18.450
come down some day.
641
00:33:19.890 --> 00:33:23.329
Well, I got to say, like, I feel like there's
642
00:33:23.349 --> 00:33:27.230
a lot of value in setting aside a period of time,
643
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.319
even if it's just yearly, to go out in the
644
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:33.599
woods and spend enough time to where you really, your
645
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:35.519
phone is off, and you really do have time to
646
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.700
think your thoughts and to talk with the people that
647
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.599
you're around. And I think even just doing that occasionally
648
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:45.609
will recharge you enough to get back into the chaos
649
00:33:45.650 --> 00:33:48.109
of the modern world with a little better, more level
650
00:33:48.130 --> 00:33:50.089
head and priorities in line.
651
00:33:50.789 --> 00:33:52.150
What about a survival tactic?
652
00:33:52.289 --> 00:33:53.769
What's one little thing? You do got to know how
653
00:33:53.789 --> 00:33:56.990
to build a fire. Fire. Yeah, so I usually carry
654
00:33:57.019 --> 00:33:57.430
a lighter.
655
00:33:57.450 --> 00:33:59.740
I'm glad you said that. Let me, no, I'm just....
656
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.420
One of the things that I loved was when we
657
00:34:05.460 --> 00:34:08.780
get on the horseback, it was kind of raining, and
658
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.139
you started grabbing things off of the tree, a little bark,
659
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:16.219
and you put it in your pocket.
660
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:16.699
It's raining.
661
00:34:16.940 --> 00:34:19.369
Everything's wet. And you put it in your pocket, and
662
00:34:19.389 --> 00:34:21.610
I go, what are you doing? He goes, well, in
663
00:34:21.670 --> 00:34:24.329
nine hours from now, when we need a fire at night,
664
00:34:24.389 --> 00:34:26.530
this will be dry. And I was like, you're thinking
665
00:34:27.409 --> 00:34:30.869
further ahead about this than I do about my career,
666
00:34:30.889 --> 00:34:31.210
my family, my.
667
00:34:33.820 --> 00:34:34.840
Is that an important part of it?
668
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.039
I mean, even on a loan, it seems like you're
669
00:34:37.059 --> 00:34:38.260
always thinking a few steps ahead.
670
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:38.780
You have to be.
671
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.219
Yeah, you always try to plan ahead. Things never quite
672
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:42.480
work out as you plan.
673
00:34:42.500 --> 00:34:44.820
But, yeah, I think.
674
00:34:45.050 --> 00:34:46.630
Okay, build a fire. So the key to building a
675
00:34:46.650 --> 00:34:47.510
fire is what?
676
00:34:48.429 --> 00:34:49.969
Have dry tinder.
677
00:34:50.050 --> 00:34:52.210
So find some good dry stuff or take it with you.
678
00:34:52.250 --> 00:34:54.469
Cotton ball with Vaseline is good. And then I always
679
00:34:54.510 --> 00:34:56.309
have two ways of starting a fire. An easy one,
680
00:34:56.489 --> 00:34:59.050
like a lighter, and then the ferro rod, which you're
681
00:34:59.070 --> 00:34:59.829
a master of.
682
00:35:00.429 --> 00:35:00.750
And so.
683
00:35:01.750 --> 00:35:03.840
And that's like a fail-safe way of starting a fire.
684
00:35:03.860 --> 00:35:06.219
That way, no matter what happens, you're warm.
685
00:35:06.260 --> 00:35:06.940
Yeah.
686
00:35:07.019 --> 00:35:08.500
Don't start fires in your apartments.
687
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.760
Don't start fires through lithium batteries on scooters. That's New
688
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.539
York's problem. But Jordan Jonas, thank you for being here.
689
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.199
I really appreciate you making it.
690
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:18.909
The whole way.
691
00:35:18.929 --> 00:35:20.650
You're an honor to talk with you. Thank you very much,
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00:35:20.750 --> 00:35:21.150
Jordan Jonas.
693
00:35:21.170 --> 00:35:21.409
Thank you.
694
00:35:25.010 --> 00:35:28.199
For more information about Jordan and his wilderness expeditions, check
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00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:29.159
out jordanjonas.com.
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We're going to take a quick break.
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We'll be right back after this. Is it easy? That's
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our show for tonight. That's my time for the week.
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Thank you, Daily Show.
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Thank you, Comedy Central.
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That invented news.
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This is The Daily Show with your hosts, Michael Kosta
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and Roddy J.
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Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Michael Kosta.
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And I'm Rodney Chang. That's right, tonight you're getting two
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hoes for the price of one.
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Are they cutting our paychecks in half?
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No, they're just not paying you. All right, so let's
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just get right into the headlines.
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Let's kick things off with some sad news that might
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tug at your heartstrings.
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President Donald Trump might be going to jail. Yeah!
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We all react to grief differently. But yes, prosecutors in
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one of Trump's 400 court cases might have found a
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surprise witness, one of his own lawyers.
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Some breaking news right now.
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Donald Trump's former lawyer just pleaded guilty.
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Sidney Powell is who we're talking about now entering into
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a plea agreement in the Georgia election subversion case. This
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is a deal that comes just one day before her
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trial was due to start. And as part of this
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plea deal, she has agreed that she will testify in
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any future trials, which raises the possibility that she could
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testify against Trump in the future, which obviously is a
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huge deal.
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That's right.
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Sidney Powell might be flipping on the Don. And if
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you don't remember Sidney Powell, she was Trump's craziest lawyer,
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which is amazing considering that Trump's other lawyers included this
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guy and this guy. Being Trump's craziest lawyer is like
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being the most divorced dad at an embassy suites. Embassy suites,
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not an embassy, and definitely not sweet. Now, under this
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plea deal, Powell will avoid prison time, but she will
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have to pay a $ 9, 000 fine and write an apology
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letter to the citizens of Georgia.
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I mean, just a letter? This woman actively tried to
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steal an election. Least she could do is apologize door
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to door like a sex offender.
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Hi, I'm Sidney Powell. I molested democracy. Good point, Ronnie.
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At the very least, you should write an apology to
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Mike Pence for almost getting him hanged. I mean, obviously,
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he won't read it because he considers receiving mail from
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a woman to be a form of sex, but it's
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good etiquette.
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I mean, Kosta, I got to say, you know, Sidney
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Poirot sounds like a pretty great lawyer, to be honest.
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I mean, man, she got treason down to an apology letter. Like,
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that's amazing negotiation. Is she still practicing? Because I might
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want to hire her.
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No, why would you hire a criminal lawyer? You have
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legal problems?
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No, nothing major. Just some minor drug trafficking.
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Drug trafficking? Like fentanyl?
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Oh, no, anything you want, man. I can hook you up.
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All right, let's move on to some breaking news from
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the world of A.I.s. Every day, people are using AI
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for groundbreaking things like cheating on their homework or drawing
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the Mona Lisa with giant boobs. But now, researchers are
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using it to unlock ancient human mysteries.
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Artificial intelligence, or AI, is allowing researchers at the University
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of Kentucky to read an ancient scroll burned by Mount Vesuvius.
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Now the scrolls are too fragile to unfurl, but UK's Dr.
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Brent Seals and his team of researchers have developed technology
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to try and read what's on the scrolls without opening them.
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One word that's already been deciphered is purple, but a
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more recent discovery has given scientists more to translate.
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Wow. Purple.
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I mean, I was hoping for ancient wisdom, or like,
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how to summon a demon, but yeah, you know, mixing
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red and blue is cool too, I guess. Although, if
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we can't read the scroll ourselves, how do we know
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if the AI is right? What, we're just gonna trust it?
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Because chat GBT told me three days ago that Gandhi
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invented the cinnamon challenge, so.
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Anyway, it's also a waste of time, because I already
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know what's going to be on that scroll, OK? It's
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going to be someone writing, hey, sure hope that volcano
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doesn't kill everyone in town.
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Purple.
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I mean, do we want to know what ancient people
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have to say? We always think it's going to be
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something profound, but it's always just, it's human.
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It's going to be.
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Something racist, don't you think? Yeah. I mean, think about
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how racist your grandpa was.
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He's 60 years older than you imagine if he was
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just 2,000 years older.
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I don't want to read someone's 2,000-year-old tweets.
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And I agree.
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Also, what are we looking for in there? What kind
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of wisdom? How smart can these people be? They put
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the most important documents next to a volcano.
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That's true.
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And they say it's too delicate to unravel.
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Well, how do you know? Have you tried to unravel it?
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Yeah, good point.
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Just pick the least important looking one and open it.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll.
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Open the scroll. Open the scroll. Let's move on.
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Open the scroll.
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Let's move on to America's new.
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Let's move on to America's new national pastime, book banning.
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States around the country are trying to ban any books
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that expose their children to diversity. But now one prominent
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children's book publisher is standing up and saying, hey, we
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can help you with that.
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Changes are coming to school book fairs after several states
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passed laws limiting discussions of race and gender in schools.
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Scholastic announced its fairs will now have a separate section
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for books covering race, gender, and sexuality.
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The new Diverse Books category includes 64 titles, such as
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biographies of Malala and LeBron James, as well as books
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about same-sex families. Schools can opt to exclude all these
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books from their sales.
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Hold on. Hold on.
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So now bigots can just check a box, and now
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all the books.
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Will be removed?
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Come on, guys.
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If you're going to be racist and sexist, you can't
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also be lazy. You got to put the work in.
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You go through the books and find all the race
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and gender stuff yourself.
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And who knows?
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Maybe if you actually take the time to read these
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books that you think are so terrible, actually absorb them,
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You might just find out that all kids' books are terrible,
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you know?
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I love you, Rodney, man.
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Yeah.
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For more on this story, let's go live to an
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elementary school not far from here with our senior book for.
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Expert, Troy Wada. Troy, Troy, it's a real.
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Scandal keeping kids from reading these classic books.
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No, no, I think they should be kept from kids.
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Have you actually read some of these books? They get
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really graphic.
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I mean, James Crosby.
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Right up inside that peach.
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Like, like right up in there.
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Troy, come on.
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Even if some of these books are a little mature,
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kids should be able to buy them if they're curious.
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No, the last thing we need is a bunch of
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bi-curious kids. That is no way to treat our children,
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your children.
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I don't have them.
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Kids are disgusting.
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Okay, look, Troy, we all think kids are disgusting, okay?
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You're not special.
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But do you really believe these books are going to
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warp kids' minds?
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Actually, if I could get personal for a second, I
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am a living example of how damaging these books can be.
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When I was in school, I read a Japanese manga book,
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and look at me now. I am half Japanese.
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Wait, the book turned you half Japanese?
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Yeah, and why only half?
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Well, I didn't finish it.
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As you can see, the damage was done. That's how
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influential books are.
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Okay, so I guess the solution is to separate the books.
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No, actually, separating them has been a disaster. Have you
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ever told a child that they can't have something? It
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becomes the only thing they want. These kids have stormed
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the forbidden section like it was a Nickelodeon version of
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January 6th. They beat Cocomelon with a flagpole.
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There was even.
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There was poop on Nancy's desk, but that was because
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a first grader had an accident.
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They must have read that book, Everyone Poops.
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Okay, well, Troy, I'm still reading that, so no spoilers, please.
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Look, man, if banning books doesn't work, then how can
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schools protect kids?
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Well, I think the only answer is a compromise. Stop
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banning books, but also stop teaching kids how to read. Oh.
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Okay, that works for me. Troy Iwata, everybody.
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Welcome back to The Daily Show.
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President Biden addressed the nation tonight on the war in
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the Middle East. Luckily, he has a special skill when
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it comes to speaking, and we found the guy who
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taught it to him.
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All right, testing levels. Let me know if you can
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hear this. I'm Joe Biden. Soul of America.
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Scranton.
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That works for me. I'm Nolan Peacock, and I'm Joe
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Biden's senior whisper advisor.
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I don't in any way dismiss what Senator Murphy says
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about the environment.
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I don't dismiss it at all. So she reminded him,
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I wrote the bill on the environment. Before the president
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gives any speech, it's my job to comb through it
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and find the most jarring moments for him to whisper.
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All right, what do you think about this? 1.9 trillion. Yeah,
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that's the spot right there.
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$ 1.
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9 trillion relief.
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They're going to be getting checks in the mail this
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week for child care. Here's my idol, old Teddy Roosevelt.
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You all remember what he said, right? Speak softly. And
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carry a big stick. What's that? And carry a big stick.
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I'm not familiar. You may wonder, why whisper? I'll tell
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you why.
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Sorry, what'd you say? Exactly.
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You see, now you're interested. As a whisper advisor, you're
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always looking for new inspirations, honing your craft. In fact, lately,
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I've been experimenting with something I like to call reverse whispering.
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Think about it.
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Think about what you'd think about at the time.
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Some people question my methods. They'll claim there's no good
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reason for a president to suddenly whisper in the middle
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of a speech. A lot of attention today.
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Whispers from President Biden lighting up social media, where the
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hashtag Creepy Joe started gaining traction very quickly.
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I don't understand why he keeps doing the creepy whisper thing.
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What's with the creepy whispering all the time? But when
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President Biden nails a whisper so unexpected, so borderline confusing,
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you wonder if you're hallucinating? Guess what? He grows the economy.
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All right, when we come back wilderness survivalist Jordan Jonas
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Welcome back to The Daily Show.
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My guest tonight is a wilderness guide and self-reliance expert
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who won season six of the History Channel show alone.
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Please welcome Jordan Jonas. So thanks for coming to New
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York City.
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Yeah, what an honor. Thanks for the invite. Now I'm
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in your world.
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Yeah, you're in my world now. We were trying to
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get a hold of you. You live in Montana.
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Yeah.
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The booking department was freaking out. You're going to make
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your flight. You weren't responding to anything. And then they
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told me you sent this text yesterday. I literally just gasped.
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on a horse for the last 10 miles in the
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wilderness so I'd be able to catch my flight in
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the morning.
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Ha, ha, ha.
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So this isn't like a bullshit act.
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You are a wilderness guy.
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I was in the woods. Yeah, I was a fast horse, fortunately.
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So I made it out.
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Yeah.
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You won season six of History Channels alone. You spent
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77 days alone in the Arctic.
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You killed a moose with a bow and arrow.
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Then a wolverine was trying to steal your moose meat,
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so you killed that.
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With a hatchet.
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Doggy dog world out there.
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You figured out a way to fish in the frozen tundra,
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which helped you win. Tell me about winning alone.
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Oh, man, what a.
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I never pictured that as being a career opportunity. No,
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it was an incredible experience, man. Nothing like the pressure
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of getting dropped off on a helicopter, and you don't
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get another meal until you catch it.
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I didn't like that indefinitely.
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But you also get the pure joy that's almost hard
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to replicate. Every time you catch a fish or a
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rabbit or whatever it is, it's pure joy.
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And I liked that all the way up until the end, which.
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I mean, I think it's sometimes, we get so jaded
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watching reality TV.
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I mean, this is, you're alone. No one's giving you
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granola bars and saying like, here's a salmon filet. I mean,
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it's really a survival show.
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It is, it is.
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It's cool.
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It's like so.
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It feels so similar to what all of our ancestors
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used to go through on a daily basis, just trying
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to survive, trying to make your way forward. And all
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of our dopamine, serotonin, and all that is lined up
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with that experience. The modern life's a bit of a hack,
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but now our serotonin is released through life.
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I do my hunting online.
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Yeah, yeah.
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When you're dropped off in that situation, are you thinking,
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I need big game like a moose? I need reliable fishing.
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I mean, what's the strategy? Because you kill a moose,
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then you have to do something with the moose.
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Right.
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Well, my initial thought, I mean, for sure, my main
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concern was food.
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Like I thought, I'm a skinny guy. I'm going to
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starve out here.
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Yeah.
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So I was all focused on food. I thought I'm
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going to catch a bunch of fish, make a pile
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of fish, and bait a bear in and hunt that.
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But I didn't catch many fish to begin with and
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no bear. So I got an opportunity at a moose
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and just rolled from there.
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Amazing.
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Tell me about where some of this skill set came from.
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Because this story fascinates me, and it seems to have
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really affected me your view on the world and affected
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who you are.
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Yeah, when I was in my early 20s, I went
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over to Russia and spent a bunch of time living
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with nomadic reindeer herders.
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Sure.
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Anyway, next question. You do that in your 20s. As
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you do. Yeah. No, but it was a fascinating experience.
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I didn't even know people really still live like that
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until I basically dropped off at the teepee. But they're nomadic,
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live in the wilderness year round, follow the herds through
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the woods. And I learned a ton from them. And
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they all, of course, became good friends. And I spent
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a lot of years living with them.
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I should be honest with our audience.
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Jordan and I have met before, and I took one
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of your wilderness expeditions.
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My wife and I started to watch.
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Alone during COVID, as a lot of people did, and
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were just blown away at the show, and also you,
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because you had all this amazing skill set.
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You could feed yourself.
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You could survive, but then there also seemed to be
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a connection and humility with nature that was really beautiful.
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And now I know you, I know that's all bullshit.
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So my wife.
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Buys me for my birthday this wilderness survival expedition with Jordan. Honestly,
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after the COVID, I think she was just trying to
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kill me. This is me on the right, and this is,
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I can't even explain to you everything about this, but
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I flew to Missoula, Montana.
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I drove four and a half hours.
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Then I got on a horseback for eight hours with
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you and nine other.
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People whose partners were trying to kill them.
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We were at 13,000 feet maybe in the Bitterroot Mountains.
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Yeah, about 10,000.
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10,000 feet.
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Let me exaggerate a little bit.
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Okay.
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And you really taught us some things in a really gentle,
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kind way. There's a picture of you teaching us how
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to trap some small animals. What is this trapping device?
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Talk to these big city folk about this.
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You guys all know about this. That's like basically a
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mouse or a rat trap. It's called a Paiute deadfall,
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but that's one of the... If you don't trap the
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mice that are harassing you at night, you'll have a
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miserable survival experience.
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I thought that would be particularly helpful for so many
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New Yorkers.
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Yeah, I know. That's what it is. That's an excellent
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trap to learn.
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You were so kind to me. One day, we were
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walking on the mountain. We see this lake, and... I
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don't know if you didn't have an itinerary or if
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out in the wilderness you don't have an itinerary.
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No schedule.
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Yeah, so you go, do you guys want to walk
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down to that lake? And we're like, yeah. Of course,
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it took all day. It's exhausting. And we get down
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to the lake, and we're We start fishing, but we
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just had a little bit of fishing line. I remember
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you handed me this casting reel.
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I had a hook.
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I threw the casting reel in the lake. It was
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holding on to my hook. But it was not natural
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for me. Is it important for you to introduce people
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to nature in this way? You could have easily been like,
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Jesus Christ, you threw the wrong thing into the lake.
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No, I actually love it, man.
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I feel like it's so important for people, especially in
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the modern world, to... be able to escape, and I love,
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you know, it's awesome to be able to empower people
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to go out there and experience what nature does have
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to offer.
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Who did that for you? Where did you learn?
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Well, I kind of grew up on a farm in Idaho,
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and that helped, but I really learned a lot living
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with the natives, I'd say. You know, that's kind of what's...
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set my knowledge base apart.
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You know? Yeah, yeah.
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So then Jordan just grabs like some fishing rod, a
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piece of stick and some fishing line and he just gets.
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Like 11 fish. Here's a picture of that.
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That's where we camped that night and then he, Didn't
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just cook them like rudimentary style. He did a nice
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little smoke. Here's the fire with the fish on it.
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You know, tell us about that.
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Oh, yeah. Alder, you know, so up in the northern regions,
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alder's a great smoking wood.
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So I like to lay those green alder sticks down
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on top of the coals, put your fish on top
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of that.
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Delicious.
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It was excellent.
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Tell me about, let's say... Hunting, people can have a
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reaction to hunting. Big game hunting. It's easy for me
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to see pictures online and see this thing and go,
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I don't like this, you're killing an animal. I also
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feel like you care a lot about nature and conservation.
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How can those two be connected?
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Tell me that.
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That's actually a really fascinating question. I think we are,
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no matter what we think, we're a part of nature.
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And in my experience, people who hunt, who rely on
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nature to you know, feed themselves or families. There's almost,
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there's few people that are more in tune with the
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health of a particular ecosystem because.
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You rely on it.
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So though you do take individual animals at times, you know,
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according to all the laws and all that, you're also really,
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you know, wishing the best for the species and working to,
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you know, provide that through via conservation, which is, you know,
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when you're hunting, you're paying money into the system. They
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put that money back into the science and the habitat
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protection that protects animals. So interestingly enough, the good news is,
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is we've done a great job of conservation and have brought,
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you know, white tail and elk and all these animals
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that from the brink of extinction to, you know, thriving
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numbers through, um, ethical hunting, you know? I can understand
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the kind of the....
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The knee jerk.
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The knee jerk, yeah.
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You see these pictures in it, you know, but I
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think one thing that really was beneficial for me, I
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am not a hunter, but I definitely... fished and killed
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a grouse that week because I was starving.
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And you said, we're only going to eat what we
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can procure for the next 36 hours.
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Well, guess what? Costa doesn't really procure much.
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But man, this is going to be silly to you
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and maybe silly to everybody else. But when I took
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this little grouse's life, it really meant something. And it
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was sad to me.
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But we then... cleaned it, we cooked it that night.
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It was my dinner. And I just thought on the
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flight home, I made a lot of notes. I had
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00:29:11.230 --> 00:29:13.569
so much I had to be thankful for. I was like,
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00:29:13.589 --> 00:29:15.950
I'd never been that close to my food before.
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You appreciate it so much.
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I go to the grocery store. I buy four pounds
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of whatever. Three of it goes in the trash. I mean,
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it's like, man, that was like such a different connection.
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00:29:23.740 --> 00:29:24.960
And that's gone for the most.
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Part from us. Yeah, I know.
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00:29:26.460 --> 00:29:28.619
I think we've all been disconnected. We were talking about
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packaging earlier.
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Right.
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00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:31.859
You know, everything that's coming in a package. That was Ronnie.
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He's the other guy. But yeah.
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But, yeah.
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00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:42.539
It's important to have that connection with our food. Otherwise,
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it just all happens on a farm or in a
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field somewhere. And you can act like you're not a
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part of the system.
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But we are. So we should do our job well.
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Yeah. I bought your axe. Ooh. Okay. You got any
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00:29:54.329 --> 00:29:57.430
potted plants? People on the subway were looking at me weird. But, yeah.
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Tell me about this style. You used a similar ax
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on Alone. And tell me some of the characteristics of
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this ax. To me, an ax is for chopping wood
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you buy at the gas station when you're on vacation.
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00:30:11.150 --> 00:30:13.329
But you actually used it as a survival tactic.
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00:30:13.369 --> 00:30:16.549
Yes, I'm a real connoisseur of a good ax.
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Has anybody at The Daily Show ever had an ax
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out here before?
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Absolutely not.
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00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:24.700
So the features, I kind of combined all the things
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I like in an axe into one. It's the right length,
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the right weight and size. It's got a single bevel edge,
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which if you'd like to.
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Pull that off. Watch, I'll do this and I'll cut myself.
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00:30:36.970 --> 00:30:38.210
Yeah, careful. Sharp.
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00:30:38.349 --> 00:30:40.390
They are sharp. So this is, here, I'll let you
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do it.
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00:30:40.930 --> 00:30:44.769
Why am I doing this? So there you go. It's
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sharpened from one side so that you're.
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Left-handed, I see. So if I was left-handed, it's got
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that flat edge. I can carve and whittle like that
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really well. Chop trees down.
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You use the X for so much more than chopping
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trees down.
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You do.
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You do a lot of carving and building things for
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yourself when you're out there.
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00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.059
And so that's why I like that single bevel.
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00:31:05.380 --> 00:31:08.859
It's got a slip-on tomahawk-style head, which is what the Avenki,
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the native folks, did in Russia.
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00:31:10.940 --> 00:31:12.420
It just makes it easier to repair.
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00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:16.359
You have a little wedge, and it's got kind of
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00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:19.369
the Siberian design, which I like, wide cutting edge.
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00:31:19.849 --> 00:31:20.549
It's very cool.
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00:31:20.650 --> 00:31:22.259
Yeah. It's a sweet little app.
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00:31:22.269 --> 00:31:23.890
I feel like a poser that I have it, but
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00:31:23.910 --> 00:31:25.609
there's still.
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00:31:25.829 --> 00:31:28.140
Well, like I said, I don't see any plants in here.
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Any potted plants around here. So you must have been
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00:31:29.619 --> 00:31:33.970
putting it to work. You've come a long way to
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00:31:34.029 --> 00:31:38.150
chat with me. I really appreciate it. Your Instagram is fascinating.
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00:31:38.190 --> 00:31:41.339
There's so many great videos and pictures of you with
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your kids doing this stuff.
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00:31:44.819 --> 00:31:45.539
What's the goal there?
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I mean, if it's a kid, my kid, I take
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my kid to the tennis court, and she stands in
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00:31:50.630 --> 00:31:53.230
the corner and kicks leaves. Are you worried your kids
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aren't going to love and appreciate nature?
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00:31:55.109 --> 00:31:55.890
No, that's a good question.
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I think they will, but I don't want to force
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anything on them. They might come live here, as far
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as I know. But I want them to have the.
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00:32:05.940 --> 00:32:06.920
So it's a great place.
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00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.559
I love when New Yorkers hear.
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00:32:08.380 --> 00:32:10.440
From other people what they think about New York.
618
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.839
No, but I want him to have the ability to
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tap into nature because in the modern world with all
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00:32:17.420 --> 00:32:21.569
the distractions and all the, you know, psychological issues, there's
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00:32:21.670 --> 00:32:24.960
almost nothing like being able to get out in nature, disconnect.
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00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.619
You know, and B, understand your thoughts and all that.
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00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.470
And so I wanna make sure they can always have
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00:32:31.529 --> 00:32:34.130
the skills and ability to create that space for themselves.
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00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:34.670
And so.
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00:32:34.869 --> 00:32:37.829
I'm convinced, my daughter's three and a half, I'm convinced
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00:32:38.049 --> 00:32:40.170
if we take a walk outside and I put my
628
00:32:40.210 --> 00:32:43.569
phone somewhere else, a lot of stuff gets solved.
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00:32:44.369 --> 00:32:46.890
Just walking together outside, you know?
630
00:32:47.049 --> 00:32:49.940
And that's my little parenting hack.
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00:32:51.500 --> 00:32:51.660
But.
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00:32:52.829 --> 00:32:55.690
Is there a survival skill that you could recommend to
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00:32:55.769 --> 00:32:59.980
everybody to learn? Or is there a hack for connecting
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00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.819
to nature? If you live in a high rise in
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the Upper West Side of New York, or Brooklyn, or
636
00:33:05.180 --> 00:33:07.920
you don't have a car, you can't get upstate, you
637
00:33:07.940 --> 00:33:11.809
guys in Montana take all this shit for granted. I
638
00:33:11.849 --> 00:33:15.089
have literally, I have one tree on my street. And
639
00:33:15.930 --> 00:33:17.650
the way people drive, I think, sure, it's going to
640
00:33:17.690 --> 00:33:18.450
come down some day.
641
00:33:19.890 --> 00:33:23.329
Well, I got to say, like, I feel like there's
642
00:33:23.349 --> 00:33:27.230
a lot of value in setting aside a period of time,
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00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.319
even if it's just yearly, to go out in the
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woods and spend enough time to where you really, your
645
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:35.519
phone is off, and you really do have time to
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00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.700
think your thoughts and to talk with the people that
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00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.599
you're around. And I think even just doing that occasionally
648
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:45.609
will recharge you enough to get back into the chaos
649
00:33:45.650 --> 00:33:48.109
of the modern world with a little better, more level
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00:33:48.130 --> 00:33:50.089
head and priorities in line.
651
00:33:50.789 --> 00:33:52.150
What about a survival tactic?
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00:33:52.289 --> 00:33:53.769
What's one little thing? You do got to know how
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to build a fire. Fire. Yeah, so I usually carry
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a lighter.
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00:33:57.450 --> 00:33:59.740
I'm glad you said that. Let me, no, I'm just....
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00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.420
One of the things that I loved was when we
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00:34:05.460 --> 00:34:08.780
get on the horseback, it was kind of raining, and
658
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.139
you started grabbing things off of the tree, a little bark,
659
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:16.219
and you put it in your pocket.
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00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:16.699
It's raining.
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00:34:16.940 --> 00:34:19.369
Everything's wet. And you put it in your pocket, and
662
00:34:19.389 --> 00:34:21.610
I go, what are you doing? He goes, well, in
663
00:34:21.670 --> 00:34:24.329
nine hours from now, when we need a fire at night,
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00:34:24.389 --> 00:34:26.530
this will be dry. And I was like, you're thinking
665
00:34:27.409 --> 00:34:30.869
further ahead about this than I do about my career,
666
00:34:30.889 --> 00:34:31.210
my family, my.
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00:34:33.820 --> 00:34:34.840
Is that an important part of it?
668
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.039
I mean, even on a loan, it seems like you're
669
00:34:37.059 --> 00:34:38.260
always thinking a few steps ahead.
670
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:38.780
You have to be.
671
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.219
Yeah, you always try to plan ahead. Things never quite
672
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:42.480
work out as you plan.
673
00:34:42.500 --> 00:34:44.820
But, yeah, I think.
674
00:34:45.050 --> 00:34:46.630
Okay, build a fire. So the key to building a
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00:34:46.650 --> 00:34:47.510
fire is what?
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00:34:48.429 --> 00:34:49.969
Have dry tinder.
677
00:34:50.050 --> 00:34:52.210
So find some good dry stuff or take it with you.
678
00:34:52.250 --> 00:34:54.469
Cotton ball with Vaseline is good. And then I always
679
00:34:54.510 --> 00:34:56.309
have two ways of starting a fire. An easy one,
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00:34:56.489 --> 00:34:59.050
like a lighter, and then the ferro rod, which you're
681
00:34:59.070 --> 00:34:59.829
a master of.
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00:35:00.429 --> 00:35:00.750
And so.
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00:35:01.750 --> 00:35:03.840
And that's like a fail-safe way of starting a fire.
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00:35:03.860 --> 00:35:06.219
That way, no matter what happens, you're warm.
685
00:35:06.260 --> 00:35:06.940
Yeah.
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00:35:07.019 --> 00:35:08.500
Don't start fires in your apartments.
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00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.760
Don't start fires through lithium batteries on scooters. That's New
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00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.539
York's problem. But Jordan Jonas, thank you for being here.
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I really appreciate you making it.
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00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:18.909
The whole way.
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00:35:18.929 --> 00:35:20.650
You're an honor to talk with you. Thank you very much,
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Jordan Jonas.
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Thank you.
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00:35:25.010 --> 00:35:28.199
For more information about Jordan and his wilderness expeditions, check
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00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:29.159
out jordanjonas.com.
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We're going to take a quick break.
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We'll be right back after this. Is it easy? That's
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our show for tonight. That's my time for the week.
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Thank you, Daily Show.
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Thank you, Comedy Central.
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