SNL #245: Attacker exploit against Second's Ark server took 0.75 BTC

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live from
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plan lab in
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austin texas
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this is
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stacker news
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ladies and
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gentlemen welcome
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back to another
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exciting episode of
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stacker news live
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my name is car
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I'm a BFF Keon.
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Happy Friday, Keon.
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Happy Friday.
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Wow, what a day.
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What a thing to celebrate.
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Yeah, it's been a good week.
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Very busy week.
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Yeah?
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How was your week?
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My week was pretty good, I think.
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Gosh, what happened?
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Yeah, not really any.
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I finalized my tab comps travel.
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I guess that's pretty good.
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That's pretty good.
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I had Buc-ee's this week.
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What's Buc-ee's again?
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It's a gas station.
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Oh, you had the gas.
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Did you drive out there?
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Where did you go to Bucky's?
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No.
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My wife went out there and she brought Bucky's home.
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Oh, boss.
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Did you get the, what did you get?
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Let's talk about the food.
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Yeah.
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Well, I don't, so I didn't know.
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I've never been to Bucky's before.
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I've never been inside.
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Really?
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So I didn't.
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We went to San Antonio that one time.
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You didn't.
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Oh, we didn't stop at Bucky's that one time.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So you haven't been to Bucky's.
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I have not been into Bucky's.
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If we did stop, I didn't go inside.
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So I've never.
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Yeah.
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So I've never been inside.
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I don't know what to expect.
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But I've watched videos on Buc-ee's, like people eating things from Buc-ee's.
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You hated it, I imagine.
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Huh?
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You hated it.
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Hated what?
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Buc-ee's.
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Oh, the food?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's my picture.
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I don't think you were going.
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It just had a bunch of junk in it.
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Like, I got a – so I was in a rush.
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So I went to Reddit to see what I should get from Buc-ee's.
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And I should have asked on Sacra News, but I didn't have the time.
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You should have just asked me.
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I would have told you.
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I had a few minutes.
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But one of the highest recommended things was a Texas cheesesteak burrito.
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Oh, yeah.
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I've had that before.
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Yeah.
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So it tasted good.
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But the ingredients list is crazy because it has just all kinds of preservatives.
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It's still gas station food was what I learned.
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And then I also got a banana pudding.
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That's good.
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Which I tend to like.
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But also similarly just a crazy list of preservatives in it, which does all kinds of damage to your gut.
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and is not meant to be eaten, in my opinion.
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But yeah, so I had that.
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And everything tasted OK.
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The pudding was actually not good.
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But the burrito tasted pretty good.
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Let me defend Bucky's because somebody has to on this show.
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If they had a smash burger, I would have got a smash burger.
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I bet you would.
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They wouldn't call it a smash burger.
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They would just call it a Bucky burger,
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and it would be full quarter pound beef.
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anyways uh they they do have food so i think i i think i told you remember i told you one time
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you should you should apply the stacker news hats the cowboy hats as for a vendor i think they would
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totally do it anyway uh they don't have the food on here unfortunately no but they have crazy you
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know they have beef jerky they have a barbecue station they have a bakery yeah i wish they had
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I tried the beaver nuggets, and they were pretty good.
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I mean, it's basically deep-fried corn covered in brown sugar.
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We should totally do a show.
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Look, I feel like this is like we should totally do a show at Bucky's one day.
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If we're ever on a road trip, we have to stop at Bucky's to do an SNL
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because it's like I personally love Bucky's so much.
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I love the aesthetic.
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I stick with the same thing,
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So I usually get like a Coke and then I'll get like the, um, the chop sandwich.
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So I'll get one of those and then I'll get one of the other ones, the brisket thing, get
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that.
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And then I'll get the chips.
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I love their like potato chips that they have because they make them fresh in house.
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And then if you're really interested, the fudge is really good.
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They have good fudge over there.
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So I usually get those three things when I go to Bucky's.
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I have, I have had the thing that you're talking about.
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You're right.
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I didn't, not my cup of tea.
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Cause I like just normal tacos.
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So I wouldn't go there for tacos.
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But you should have gotten the sandwiches.
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I feel like those are safe, really inexpensive.
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No, they have the same problem.
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Because I know people who have gotten those sandwiches,
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and they have this crazy preservative.
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She got a pulled pork sandwich.
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Did she like it?
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She said it tasted okay.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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It made her kind of feel not great because it has all this crap in it.
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Yeah, but if you keep eating it, then you'll always feel great.
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You always feel like crap, and you won't know.
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exactly you won't know that you could feel the restrooms you go to the restrooms the restrooms
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are like top notch though so i wasn't there i just yeah you can't get the rest dude i mean yeah
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don't get the food but they have everything else yeah i don't think i'll get food there you know
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i've had it once i can say i've had it i don't need to eat there again fudge is good maybe the
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fudge i'll look at the fudge ingredients but they even have like these little yeah the beaver nuggets
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They have those Dude their selection is primo They have about 100 And they they have hats they have like shirts buckies they have free stickers like i wouldn mind a hat you know like it a really
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cool placement i think they're building they have one in bastrop they're building another one where
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did i see another so they're building one and they're building another one near uh new broad
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or on like just outside of austin so you don't have to go all the way to san marcus area wherever
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it's even closer yeah that would make sense yeah anyways people seem to like i you know
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and so that i do not that reddit thread wasn't great unfortunately i mean it's one of those
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places that it's just like you know it's a gas station i mean i don't know why else you would
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stop anywhere else if you're going down 35 yeah if you're going to stop at a gas station stop at
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bucky's but maybe donate there they have tesla's charging stations now and they have like ton of gas
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pumps so anyway um that was our bucky segment anyway cool stuff yeah how about you what did
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you do this uh dude just all over the place yeah all over the place just getting ready for the
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rodeo um yeah just a lot of stuff just a lot of stuff going on but it was fun the coolest thing
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this week was tofer got a new coffee maker and i switched to coffee that's right your coffee car
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now so i've been drinking a lot of coffee it's definitely turned up my energy but you're going
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back to soda suddenly this is my reward i see drinking coffee all week i see but um yeah so
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that's been cool that was probably the highlight yeah your energy level has been different i
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wouldn't know you know i don't know maybe not higher or lower but you have been more high energy
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now yeah yeah because of the coffee just feel like your energy's changed but uh it's good good stuff
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if you've never seen this crazy show, we don't just talk about Bucky's and my drinking habits.
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do Stacker. Oh, there it goes. Never heard of Stacker.News. It's the front page of Bitcoin.
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That's right. And it has other really cool stuff. They have like AMAs. There's in real life events
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now. There's a guy named Scoresby that shares all the up to date news that's happening in the world.
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That's right.
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This very crazy show is here every week.
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We cover it every Friday.
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I've never missed a day.
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You have?
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As you admitted like an episode or two.
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Oh, yeah, that's right.
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I have.
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But I'll tell you what, though.
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You come check out all the stuff.
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Wumble makes clips,
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So if you ever missed the show,
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There's all sorts of stuff.
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But we're going to jump into the top three stories here on Stagger News this week.
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It is the number number three top story is.
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Is it coming up?
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Oh, wow.
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It did come up.
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Oh, that's weird.
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Number three top story this week.
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Keon, let me move this.
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That's what happens when you drink so much coffee.
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You just get jitters.
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Stacker News, a bit post peer-to-peer, 18 comments, 15,000 stats from the Anon.
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Yeah.
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Bitcoin territory.
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Keon, what's this?
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Yeah, so I would guess this mostly got upset because it is a cool service.
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Most of the description of it is hard to read because it's all slop.
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But if you click on the link, it's basically a place that you can, like a peer-to-peer marketplace where you can pay with Bitcoin to order things on Amazon.
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And so someone with fiat will buy the thing from Amazon for you.
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Oh, really?
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And in return for Bitcoin.
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There's a human there?
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Yeah.
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That's interesting.
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How do they send it to you, then?
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I think you give them your shipping information.
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You pay them Bitcoin and they input the shipping information.
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And I think it's held in escrow.
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There was some explanation from the founders in there.
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Because I remember there was a service,
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I think I linked to it in the comments,
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from 2022 called purse.io.
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And it took them a while,
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but they eventually started accepting Lightning.
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They did something very similar.
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They also accepted a variety of shit coins,
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but they have since shut down.
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And these guys are doing something similar,
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but Bitcoin only.
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And they claim to have iterated on the trust model a bit.
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Just play the video and see what we get here.
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And claim that it's more secure.
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Welcome to BitPost.
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There you go.
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Look at that.
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Wow.
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It's that easy.
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Boom.
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The only thing is the address, but I mean, you know, to each their own.
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Yeah you are giving but you know maybe you get it mailed to a PO box I would say get it mailed to a Bitcoin hub you can just pick it up there A Bitcoin hub a UPS That what I would do Something like that
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Cool stuff, man.
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That's awesome.
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Anything else?
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Is there any comments on here?
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Probably.
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Oh, okay.
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It looks like null cloud.
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Or no blockchain.
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Well, no.
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Hang on a second.
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Who had the top comment?
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Squares me at the top.
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Okay.
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So this is very cool.
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At first, I didn't see how it was switched to be Bitworker.
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But then I just noticed the menu options on the bottom of the screen.
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You know, that's actually not a bad idea.
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I mean, think about it.
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These bit workers or whatever they're calling them?
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I mean, I don't know.
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All they're doing is placing an order.
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I think it's pretty cool.
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I mean, all they're doing is placing an order.
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Especially if there's a web of trust component to it.
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We don't need buzzwords for this.
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But I think if just...
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Would you use something like this?
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Probably not because I'm already okay with using Amazon.
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I'm usually paying fiat on Amazon, like a fiat lover.
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Not that I want to do that, but yeah.
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This is just a little too complicated for me,
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but I think this serves a need for people who have privacy concerns
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or they're completely off of fiat, and props to them for that.
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That's cool.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's a great post.
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That's the number three post this week.
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we're going to jump into the number two,
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the number dose post this week.
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And that is, let's see.
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Number two post this week is distributed charge.
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Live in the future.
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Bring a broom.
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This is from Jason B.
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October 6th, Bitcoin Lightning Territory.
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11 comments, 22,000 stats.
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All of it got forwarded to one of my favorite people in the world, Andy.
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Well, 50% of it got forwarded.
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Oh, 50%.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so Jason B rented a Tesla, I guess, for I think he said a week or so.
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And one of the destinations he wanted to hit up was Andy's Distributed Charge Station, I believe in Kentucky, right?
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It should be there in the post somewhere.
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But yeah, I think I saw it there.
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It's in Kentucky.
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we've covered distributed charge before
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but basically it allows you to
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pay Bitcoin
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for a Tesla
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for electricity to
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charge your Tesla
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and apparently at a good rate
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according to Jason. He said it's way
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cheaper than he might have got somewhere else.
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I guess that's because it's like a promotional thing
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from Andy where he's trying to
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encourage people to use it
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or experiment with Bitcoin to save
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a bit of money.
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If he gets the electricity for free.
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I don't know if he gets the electricity for free.
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I mean, that's not a bad deal.
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But he might.
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Yeah, overall, he said it was an awesome experience.
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It was pretty good.
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He said it didn't charge as fast as superchargers,
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but for the added privacy benefits and getting to use Bitcoin
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and the savings is pretty great.
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Remember his last post that he had, and we went over it,
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he had said that it was not the supercharger one,
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but it's the one before that one?
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Yes.
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Yeah, remember that?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's just a bit charge.
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It's more of a, it trickles more than it does like a very fast charge.
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Do you remember that cool thing that he did with the lightning payment key on where he
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like sends it and then it like, is it not escrows it, but it's like, what is that?
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What, that word?
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Yeah.
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You put up like a bond.
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There you go.
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That's what it was.
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Yeah.
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I knew it was something clever.
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Yeah.
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You put up like a bond.
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I think it's a hold invoice that you pay and it's 25,000 sats and they just hold it.
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They'll cancel it if you end up paying for your charge at the end.
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But it's just to make sure that you don't steal electricity from them.
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So you pay that bond, and then you do all your charging.
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And then when you're done, you pay.
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And then that hold invoice gets canceled,
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and that 25,000 sats gets refunded to you.
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But then if you don't pay, they take that 25,000 sats.
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It's really cool.
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Yeah.
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I'm a big fan of this project.
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Yeah, so am I.
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I mean, I think a lot of us like the idea of this.
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I think the hard part is like how many Bitcoiners are in any specific location with a Tesla.
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I think you just throw these up at every single hub.
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And then...
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Where would you put it here?
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In the alley?
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I'd probably put it in the alley.
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I just asked Willie to put it in.
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Willie, why do you do that?
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I just rolled the electricity cord from down here all the way down there.
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That'd be funny.
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No, that's cool, though.
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That looks really cool.
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Yeah.
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Top comment was from Scoresby.
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He said, in the announcement post back in December,
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he mentioned that he might be working on some other stuff.
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Do you know if he's still mostly working on Distribute Charge?
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Good question, Andy.
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And then Andy came in.
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Sorry, I was going to post some pictures of my workspace after I got it set up,
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but then forgot.
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Those interested should just plan on doing some proof of work
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and coming to one of our monthly meetups in Cincinnati.
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Woo doggy Look at that Yeah well I guess Cincinnati Kentucky is the same thing No I believe the charging station is in Kentucky
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Well, wait, where's Cincinnati?
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In Ohio, right?
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Yeah, Cincinnati, Ohio.
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So the EV charging port is in Covington.
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Kentucky.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah, sounds like you just need to go to the Cincinnati thing,
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and then you could meet Andy.
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And then he says, working on a variety of things,
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but lately I've been honing in on making EV application more stable and mature.
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nice cool man yeah very cool stuff
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yeah see pretend presenting a tab too i don't know i hope he's gonna be there i'm sure he i'm
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sure he'll be there i feel like i see him there at least once a year or i feel like i see him once
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a year i think the last time i talked to him was maybe december or january because i was trying to
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get him to come to austin but um he really wants to show off the you know like just show off the
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tesla thing and all that kind of stuff yeah maybe one day we'll get them well it seems like there's
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a lot of teslas are getting sold so yeah at least according to the bitcoiners located in austin
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yeah everybody's buying tesla yeah um cool stuff uh the number one top story this week is my first
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taproot asset payment over the lightning network this is from leo lightning territory 37 comments
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25,000 cents. Keon, what's Leo up to this week? Yeah. So he paid over a taproot asset channel
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for his own vending machine like we did in the previous episode. It's up in Canada.
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Apparently he's using, he paired with Amboss to create a taproot asset channel. I guess
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Amboss has this support coming up soon. But like out of band, like off the website,
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Leo asked Jesse at Amboss if he could open one of these channels to him. So Jesse opened one of
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these channels to him and Jesse took the other side of the trade. So it allows, this taproot
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asset allows Leo to spend and receive USDTL, which I guess is some speed wallet thing,
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some speed wallet asset thing. It allows him to send or receive USDTL and Amboss takes the other
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side of it. So Amboss will accept stable coins and send sats, or they will accept sats and send
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stable coins. And so that's really cool. I didn't know Amboss had that feature.
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I don't think it's released yet. Okay. Anyway, this is Taproot Assets. I haven't really seen
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it working or anyone use it yet. But so this is the first time I'm seeing someone use it.
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yeah that's impressive
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he runs it with LitD
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and he has
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I believe a TUI that he
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made or someone else made that allows him
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to do taproot asset stuff
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explain to the stackers at home what a TUI is
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because not everybody knows that
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a terminal UI so a UI
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that a user interface that is present
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in a
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terminal a computer terminal
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like usually a text based terminal
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and a TUI is kind of
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sort of a text a texty type of view on what do you know cheers cheers leo wow wow that was not
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planned you guys both paid that was not planned this was not planned hey cheers cheers leo cheers
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cheers yeah cheers yeah but so that machine the example he's setting there is that machine only
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accepts sats uh for soda yeah he was able to pay with some usdtl that he had and so i guess that
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That's like kind of the wow of it.
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That's pretty good.
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That's a pretty good deal.
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So I paid $1.99 fiat for this at Fiesta.
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$2.14?
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Where's that 15 cents going?
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That's all I'm saying.
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Yep.
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What else did he say in here?
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I guess you pay more.
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Well, no.
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I guess.
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Well, I guess it's all relative.
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Maybe it's a little higher prices in Vancouver.
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I wonder what the Coke exchange is for Vancouver compared to America.
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It's probably higher, right?
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They charge like an extra nickel and a half?
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Yeah.
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And I think getting it up that far north is probably pretty hard.
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Maybe that's why it's more.
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Yeah.
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Although Santa Claus, he probably has a lot of Coke,
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and they're closer to Santa Claus.
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It's going to those ads.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so I guess he also went and paid for some other things,
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he says in here.
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He got a Coke at Mid-Defs.
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That's it.
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That's funny.
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He said he paid for his Mulvad account with the USCTL.
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Oh, cool.
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He paid for an eSIM.
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Bit refill.
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A Safeway gift card.
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Yeah, so he was able to use his USDTL
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to pay people who only accept Bitcoin
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using the special lightning channel.
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So will all lightning channels have this,
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or is it something that Amboss had to work hard on
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to implement and stuff like that?
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I have no idea.
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We don't know much of the side of Amboss.
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They didn't really say anything.
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But given how few...
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Well, Justinfer's on Stacker News.
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Did you guys tag him?
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I didn't tag him.
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Given how few people have done this, as far as I know,
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I would guess it's pretty complicated to set up.
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expresses some of the frustration here and just doing the like currency conversions um
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and then you have to set up an oracle and all the tooling isn't exactly baked into
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all of like lightning labs as products yet so there's some there's quite a bit of manual
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configuration so i guess it's definitely not turnkey and then you have to find a counterparty
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who wants wants a coin um for sats and so that's kind of the it's really cool man this is the future
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Feels awesome seeing it.
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You like it?
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You know I'm a sucker for this kind of stuff.
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This is why I got in.
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For stable coins?
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Oh, no.
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I mean, not that part, but the lightning part is why I love this kind of stuff.
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It's just really cool seeing lightning come to life in the real world.
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That's what I'm saying.
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I'm always a big fan of that kind of stuff.
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Anyways, really cool.
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Great post, Leo.
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I'm glad that he shared it on Stacker News.
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Yeah.
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I personally don't understand.
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I don't get stable coins on Lightning.
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It's never really made sense to me,
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mostly because if you have a stable coin on Lightning,
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you're trusting some issuer already.
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And so you have this counterparty risk.
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And the whole point of Bitcoin is to remove such risk.
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And so with this counterparty risk there,
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why not use a more centralized chain?
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And then Leo responded to me when I asked this question.
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00:22:14,411 --> 00:22:16,871
He said, well, a lot of people want,
512
00:22:16,871 --> 00:22:23,611
Like they want the, this is like a, for a different subset of users than cash app or maybe strike who are kind of doing similar things already.
513
00:22:23,951 --> 00:22:25,871
And I could, I could see that.
514
00:22:25,871 --> 00:22:33,111
Like maybe they can't, maybe people don't have access to cash app or strike, but they want, they want to be able to pay in stable coins.
515
00:22:33,371 --> 00:22:35,191
But I don't, I don't see the point of doing it.
516
00:22:35,231 --> 00:22:36,831
I still don't see the point of doing it on Bitcoin.
517
00:22:37,091 --> 00:22:40,211
I guess it's just, I guess, cause, cause he works for lightning labs, right?
518
00:22:40,411 --> 00:22:40,671
Yeah.
519
00:22:40,791 --> 00:22:41,031
Okay.
520
00:22:41,031 --> 00:22:54,431
I would imagine this is just me taking a shot in the dark here, but I would imagine if they're making open source wallets that are out there, I would imagine Taproot assets are going to be a thing in some of these open source wallets.
521
00:22:54,651 --> 00:22:58,751
And this way, anybody in the world can just download a wallet.
522
00:22:59,351 --> 00:23:10,431
It doesn't have to be some of these other ones that you mentioned, but and then they don't have to be KYC or AML via their open source wallet.
523
00:23:10,431 --> 00:23:11,231
That's what I would think.
524
00:23:11,771 --> 00:23:12,451
No, but they are.
525
00:23:12,531 --> 00:23:14,791
I believe they are AML'd through Tether
526
00:23:14,791 --> 00:23:17,651
or through whoever is the stablecoin, I'm sure.
527
00:23:17,651 --> 00:23:22,111
This right here, though, is the USDTL, right?
528
00:23:22,271 --> 00:23:24,191
But if you're using an open source wallet,
529
00:23:24,271 --> 00:23:26,971
let's just say for the sake of this conversation,
530
00:23:27,131 --> 00:23:30,031
hypothetically BlueWallet or something like that,
531
00:23:30,571 --> 00:23:31,951
that's like, is BlueWallet open source?
532
00:23:32,051 --> 00:23:32,871
I think it is, isn't it?
533
00:23:33,111 --> 00:23:33,871
I believe so.
534
00:23:33,971 --> 00:23:35,391
Yeah, let's just say it's open source
535
00:23:35,391 --> 00:23:38,711
and then I can just download it in another country
536
00:23:38,711 --> 00:23:42,171
on an Android, you know, bought over the, you know, whatever.
537
00:23:42,371 --> 00:23:45,491
And then I should be able to do this, right?
538
00:23:45,551 --> 00:23:46,831
Like that's the whole point of using.
539
00:23:47,151 --> 00:23:48,191
No, I don't think you could.
540
00:23:48,271 --> 00:23:50,211
I don't think Blue Wallet actually supports
541
00:23:50,211 --> 00:23:51,791
non-custodial lightning like this.
542
00:23:51,811 --> 00:23:53,371
You'd have to open a very specific channel.
543
00:23:53,751 --> 00:23:55,111
Yeah, well, in that case, I don't know.
544
00:23:56,131 --> 00:23:57,411
That's mostly what I'm saying.
545
00:23:57,411 --> 00:24:00,131
I was thinking more it had to do with like, okay,
546
00:24:00,551 --> 00:24:04,091
a regular person who downloads a wallet that's open source
547
00:24:04,091 --> 00:24:07,631
can then pay and receive in USDTL.
548
00:24:07,731 --> 00:24:08,631
That's what I was thinking.
549
00:24:08,711 --> 00:24:10,851
but it turns out you're saying it's not.
550
00:24:11,571 --> 00:24:14,371
No, I'm basically saying this feels like stable coins
551
00:24:14,371 --> 00:24:18,531
with all of the UX and UI challenges of Lightning added to it
552
00:24:18,531 --> 00:24:21,991
for no benefit as far as I can tell.
553
00:24:22,251 --> 00:24:23,911
That's kind of where I'm at with it.
554
00:24:24,151 --> 00:24:26,511
I get why people who are working on the Lightning Network
555
00:24:26,511 --> 00:24:28,191
want this to happen because they imagine
556
00:24:28,191 --> 00:24:30,031
it'll make the Lightning Network more robust
557
00:24:30,031 --> 00:24:32,091
to have more liquidity deployed on it,
558
00:24:32,131 --> 00:24:33,631
which would happen if a lot more people
559
00:24:33,631 --> 00:24:36,271
are using stable coins on Bitcoin and Lightning.
560
00:24:36,271 --> 00:24:41,411
but I just it doesn't make like the equation when I put it together it like doesn't make sense it's
561
00:24:41,411 --> 00:24:47,351
like two equals five I mean I mean if you really want to get into it I mean I can give you a real
562
00:24:47,351 --> 00:24:55,651
reason but it's not a very like it's probably sharing too much so maybe we stop here okay I'll
563
00:24:55,651 --> 00:25:03,391
tell you after the show but besides that all all to say I'm excited by this I think this is really
564
00:25:03,391 --> 00:25:08,871
cool i think lightning's really cool and i like seeing stuff being paid with lightning and um
565
00:25:08,871 --> 00:25:15,851
yeah because maybe we just don't know everything maybe just for hasn't i mean i definitely don't
566
00:25:15,851 --> 00:25:20,031
know everything but i don't know but no one can explain to me i mean maybe just for is gonna have
567
00:25:20,031 --> 00:25:24,111
that explanation i don't know like maybe they're coming out with a wallet i don't know like some
568
00:25:24,111 --> 00:25:27,451
somebody has to be well ambus already has a wallet well that's what i'm saying somebody has
569
00:25:27,451 --> 00:25:31,991
to be on the other side of that like you said so who's going to take that other side if i'm using
570
00:25:31,991 --> 00:25:39,011
blue wallet here to do this right like isn't that a thing yeah so maybe ambos takes the other side
571
00:25:39,011 --> 00:25:46,291
and you you automatically open a channel to them but why wouldn't i just use tron or i wouldn't
572
00:25:46,291 --> 00:25:50,351
because some people just don't use trump some people don't use these other but why would they
573
00:25:50,351 --> 00:25:56,411
use lightning i mean because i use lightning i would think normal people but we use lightning
574
00:25:56,411 --> 00:26:08,625
because we like Bitcoin properties We like the censorship resistance Yeah but me somebody was going to send me USDTL I would just swap it for lightning immediately
575
00:26:10,085 --> 00:26:10,565
Okay.
576
00:26:10,625 --> 00:26:12,205
So when this becomes available,
577
00:26:12,205 --> 00:26:16,005
you're going to set up some stable coin channels so that you can receive.
578
00:26:17,005 --> 00:26:19,665
But if you were trying to send me USDTL,
579
00:26:19,745 --> 00:26:20,745
I would say,
580
00:26:20,845 --> 00:26:21,065
no,
581
00:26:21,165 --> 00:26:21,985
I want sats.
582
00:26:21,985 --> 00:26:24,665
And then hopefully you can send me sats instead.
583
00:26:24,665 --> 00:26:27,925
even though you're sending USDTL.
584
00:26:28,245 --> 00:26:29,605
Well, that's what this does.
585
00:26:30,025 --> 00:26:30,225
Yeah.
586
00:26:31,905 --> 00:26:32,385
Yeah.
587
00:26:33,985 --> 00:26:37,185
Yeah, it just doesn't make sense to me.
588
00:26:37,325 --> 00:26:39,485
I can go through these scenarios
589
00:26:39,485 --> 00:26:42,225
and make up a hypothetical person.
590
00:26:42,225 --> 00:26:44,005
I think it's just that last mile conversion.
591
00:26:47,085 --> 00:26:47,905
Do you know what I mean?
592
00:26:47,965 --> 00:26:50,665
I feel like you're probably not going to be the one
593
00:26:50,665 --> 00:26:52,725
that has a USDTL, but let's say hypothetically
594
00:26:52,725 --> 00:26:55,645
some bigger entity has a USDTL
595
00:26:55,645 --> 00:26:57,145
and they're trying to pay us
596
00:26:57,145 --> 00:26:59,365
and I don't want their USDTL, I just want
597
00:26:59,365 --> 00:27:01,225
SATs. Why do they have USDTL?
598
00:27:01,405 --> 00:27:02,805
That's a question I'm curious.
599
00:27:02,865 --> 00:27:04,625
I know what the problem,
600
00:27:04,945 --> 00:27:07,005
the hypothetical problem that solves this.
601
00:27:07,285 --> 00:27:09,005
I'm just trying to figure out who the hypothetical
602
00:27:09,005 --> 00:27:10,885
person... Is this what you feel like whenever
603
00:27:10,885 --> 00:27:12,085
I argue with you?
604
00:27:12,085 --> 00:27:14,405
Now I know what that feels like.
605
00:27:15,125 --> 00:27:16,145
No, it feels
606
00:27:16,145 --> 00:27:17,945
way worse than this probably feels for you.
607
00:27:19,065 --> 00:27:19,765
Because I'm
608
00:27:19,765 --> 00:27:21,405
literally explaining
609
00:27:21,405 --> 00:27:27,025
like what why this is the attorney right literally explaining why this should be and you're just like
610
00:27:27,025 --> 00:27:31,845
not getting it this is what you feel like okay i get it i get it now i feel kind of i don't think
611
00:27:31,845 --> 00:27:39,045
you get me now i feel bad for doing this to you all the time it's frustrating geez anyway leo keep
612
00:27:39,045 --> 00:27:44,465
up the great work uh we're super super happy that you posted on sacerdale's and uh can't wait to see
613
00:27:44,465 --> 00:27:50,025
more yeah i love the vending machine and boss like and i like jessifer release a do an ama
614
00:27:50,025 --> 00:27:53,665
I like being able to see the stable coin stuff
615
00:27:53,665 --> 00:27:55,365
because I don't, again, I don't understand it.
616
00:27:55,385 --> 00:27:56,545
I'm trying to understand it.
617
00:27:56,645 --> 00:27:58,705
And the more I see of it, maybe I understand it.
618
00:27:58,765 --> 00:28:00,705
Maybe Leo and them know something
619
00:28:00,705 --> 00:28:02,485
that I haven't figured out yet.
620
00:28:02,565 --> 00:28:03,285
So that's what I want.
621
00:28:03,385 --> 00:28:04,185
I like that a lot.
622
00:28:04,465 --> 00:28:07,885
We're going to jump into the Wumble's Picks
623
00:28:07,885 --> 00:28:11,025
because it's Wumble, the wonderful Wumble's Picks.
624
00:28:12,085 --> 00:28:13,265
I say that pretty fast.
625
00:28:13,365 --> 00:28:14,145
Wumble, Wumble, Wumble, Wumble.
626
00:28:14,405 --> 00:28:15,565
Wonderful Wumble's Picks.
627
00:28:16,305 --> 00:28:17,645
Wow, you can do like auctions.
628
00:28:17,965 --> 00:28:18,865
Before we do that,
629
00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:26,405
we're going to jump into our sponsor that's right baby heat bit now it's getting pretty cold out
630
00:28:26,405 --> 00:28:32,225
there the summer just ended here in austin because we're in october and it was it was in the 90s
631
00:28:32,225 --> 00:28:35,765
last week now we're like in the 80s when i walk home at night it's like
632
00:28:35,765 --> 00:28:42,185
60 it's getting it's getting chilly out there coob i wish i had this i wish i had this heat bit
633
00:28:42,185 --> 00:28:48,325
just strapped to my back walking in my back why don't you do it i mean i could probably hook you
634
00:28:48,325 --> 00:28:49,765
With a battery and a heat bit?
635
00:28:49,765 --> 00:28:51,045
I could probably do it.
636
00:28:51,225 --> 00:28:55,245
But if you just are looking for something to get for Christmas
637
00:28:55,245 --> 00:28:58,505
or somebody's birthday is coming up, you should get a heat bit.
638
00:28:58,885 --> 00:29:00,025
These are pretty sweet.
639
00:29:00,205 --> 00:29:03,065
This one is a bit air, as they call it.
640
00:29:03,405 --> 00:29:05,925
It cleans the air.
641
00:29:06,265 --> 00:29:08,685
There's some HEPA stuff in there that I don't know what means,
642
00:29:08,825 --> 00:29:10,285
but I'm breathing better.
643
00:29:11,285 --> 00:29:12,465
I think it cleans the air.
644
00:29:13,025 --> 00:29:15,845
Also, you get a really cool, neat app
645
00:29:15,845 --> 00:29:18,985
that lets you stack sats.
646
00:29:19,085 --> 00:29:19,945
I don't know if you've ever seen this,
647
00:29:20,025 --> 00:29:20,705
but look at that.
648
00:29:21,585 --> 00:29:22,805
You could be making some sats,
649
00:29:22,845 --> 00:29:24,645
not only just on Stacker News every week.
650
00:29:24,685 --> 00:29:28,325
You could be making sats just passively on your heat bit.
651
00:29:29,145 --> 00:29:30,845
I mean, who doesn't want that?
652
00:29:31,105 --> 00:29:33,805
I always throw mine in turbo mode
653
00:29:33,805 --> 00:29:35,005
because I'm a turbo kind of guy.
654
00:29:35,345 --> 00:29:36,825
But you could put yours in light mode
655
00:29:36,825 --> 00:29:37,925
if that's what you want to do.
656
00:29:38,285 --> 00:29:40,305
The other cool thing is you could just turn it off.
657
00:29:40,665 --> 00:29:42,005
You could pick your own mining pool.
658
00:29:42,825 --> 00:29:45,045
And then you could do a one-time transfer.
659
00:29:45,045 --> 00:29:46,325
You can do monthly payouts.
660
00:29:47,265 --> 00:29:55,385
But yeah, this makes the perfect gift for that normal, no-coiner in your life.
661
00:29:55,565 --> 00:29:55,965
Look at that.
662
00:29:56,045 --> 00:29:58,245
You can sleep soundly with your girlfriend.
663
00:29:58,585 --> 00:29:59,945
Yeah, you'll get a girlfriend if you want to.
664
00:30:00,145 --> 00:30:01,425
Or your Safu pillow.
665
00:30:02,105 --> 00:30:03,825
Women love to be warm.
666
00:30:04,445 --> 00:30:04,685
Hey.
667
00:30:04,805 --> 00:30:05,405
I don't know if you know.
668
00:30:05,565 --> 00:30:06,325
Hey, it's true.
669
00:30:06,525 --> 00:30:06,985
It's true.
670
00:30:07,365 --> 00:30:08,225
They love to be warm.
671
00:30:08,805 --> 00:30:11,265
And check out all the videos that they have here on the VidArea.
672
00:30:11,265 --> 00:30:16,565
We just want to thank Alex and the entire team at HeatBit for supporting Stacker News Live.
673
00:30:16,745 --> 00:30:21,605
With that, let's jump into Wumble's Picks.
674
00:30:21,705 --> 00:30:25,765
Every week here on Stacker News Live, we go to Wumble.
675
00:30:25,925 --> 00:30:26,745
He emails us.
676
00:30:27,045 --> 00:30:28,565
He emails us first thing Friday morning.
677
00:30:28,685 --> 00:30:31,705
He's like, you know, Carr, you know, Coop, I want you talking about this.
678
00:30:32,025 --> 00:30:35,045
He gives us a whole breakdown for like a whole paragraph.
679
00:30:35,285 --> 00:30:36,885
He goes, guys, this is what's going on.
680
00:30:37,005 --> 00:30:38,325
You know, it's Wumble's Picks.
681
00:30:38,605 --> 00:30:40,505
Every week we do it.
682
00:30:41,265 --> 00:30:48,605
This week, Womble wants us talking about Entropy Seal, reusable tamper-proof storage option, private key storage.
683
00:30:48,605 --> 00:30:52,765
This is in the Bitcoin beginners territory, the Bitcoin territory, the security territory.
684
00:30:53,265 --> 00:30:57,425
October 6th, from Womble, seven comments, 1,841 sets.
685
00:30:57,925 --> 00:31:00,205
Keon, what is Entropy Seal?
686
00:31:00,985 --> 00:31:22,738
It looks like some kind of device that allows you to put a seed backup in it or a hardware wallet in it and detect whether someone has opened it or perhaps even attempted to open it I didn watch the full video So I not So what is it Say it slower So you said it a what
687
00:31:22,978 --> 00:31:27,918
Have you ever gotten a hardware wallet that comes with like a tamper proof bag on it? Yeah. Okay. So
688
00:31:27,918 --> 00:31:31,798
you get the heart, you use the hardware wallet or whatever, then you put in this tamper proof bag.
689
00:31:31,858 --> 00:31:35,998
And so that, you know, if, I don't know, maybe you don't trust your roommate or whatever to,
690
00:31:35,998 --> 00:31:39,058
you think you might go into your hardware wallet.
691
00:31:39,318 --> 00:31:41,038
And if that bag is unsealed,
692
00:31:41,118 --> 00:31:42,518
you know that someone has tampered with it
693
00:31:42,518 --> 00:31:43,258
is kind of the idea.
694
00:31:43,358 --> 00:31:48,138
And this is a similar thing with this jug or whatever.
695
00:31:49,058 --> 00:31:50,998
But it works a little differently.
696
00:31:51,078 --> 00:31:52,818
Rather than being a bag, it's a container
697
00:31:52,818 --> 00:31:57,298
and it has a lid that I believe when you screw it shut,
698
00:31:57,978 --> 00:32:01,678
it establishes like a certain pattern on the top.
699
00:32:01,898 --> 00:32:03,698
So you know if it's been unscrewed,
700
00:32:03,738 --> 00:32:05,798
that pattern will have changed, I think.
701
00:32:05,998 --> 00:32:09,238
Again, I didn't watch the full video.
702
00:32:09,238 --> 00:32:10,418
That's the general idea.
703
00:32:10,418 --> 00:32:12,018
It's like how do you store something
704
00:32:12,018 --> 00:32:15,338
that you don't want anyone to ever touch it?
705
00:32:15,338 --> 00:32:17,278
How are you gonna remember that pattern though?
706
00:32:17,278 --> 00:32:18,118
Is it QR code?
707
00:32:18,118 --> 00:32:21,058
You just take, I think you probably,
708
00:32:21,058 --> 00:32:22,478
you take a picture of it,
709
00:32:23,478 --> 00:32:26,118
and then you compare it the next time you go into it
710
00:32:26,118 --> 00:32:27,518
would be kind of the idea.
711
00:32:28,938 --> 00:32:29,938
Okay.
712
00:32:29,938 --> 00:32:34,838
Yeah, I mean, it's a slight variation on other things,
713
00:32:34,838 --> 00:32:36,338
But like with a tamper-proof bag.
714
00:32:36,658 --> 00:32:38,618
There has to be more that we're missing here, Keon.
715
00:32:39,078 --> 00:32:41,038
Are you sure it doesn't come with an app that you scan?
716
00:32:41,158 --> 00:32:44,698
Because it kind of reminds me of the thing, you know, when you scan the watch or whatever.
717
00:32:46,158 --> 00:32:48,058
Maybe it comes with an app that you scan.
718
00:32:48,498 --> 00:32:49,818
I think that would be reasonable.
719
00:32:49,978 --> 00:32:50,818
You don't need one, though.
720
00:32:50,818 --> 00:32:53,878
You could probably just look at it and compare them and make sure it's not.
721
00:32:55,878 --> 00:32:57,678
There's no way you're going to remember that.
722
00:32:58,078 --> 00:32:59,518
That's why you take a picture of it with your phone.
723
00:32:59,658 --> 00:33:02,818
But look, even right there, that looks like the same thing.
724
00:33:02,818 --> 00:33:07,758
the same thing you have to look very closely i imagine you're like you could probably overlay
725
00:33:07,758 --> 00:33:12,258
am i crazy does not that not look like the same how are you gonna like i didn't make the thing i
726
00:33:12,258 --> 00:33:16,818
don't freaking know how it works okay i didn't again i didn't i didn't watch but you see these
727
00:33:16,818 --> 00:33:20,638
both though like they look like literally this looks like no one's tampered with either one
728
00:33:20,638 --> 00:33:24,458
yeah but if you look at both pictures of both next to each other you could probably tell
729
00:33:24,458 --> 00:33:29,758
that it was tampered with i guess i'm you wouldn't be able to i would there's no way
730
00:33:29,758 --> 00:33:30,398
because look at that.
731
00:33:30,458 --> 00:33:32,338
That looks exactly like this.
732
00:33:32,898 --> 00:33:34,918
No, but that one isn't even a good picture on the bottom.
733
00:33:35,158 --> 00:33:36,158
Of course it looks the same.
734
00:33:36,258 --> 00:33:37,638
The one on the bottom is all blurry.
735
00:33:38,378 --> 00:33:38,658
Yeah.
736
00:33:39,858 --> 00:33:40,258
Anyways.
737
00:33:41,018 --> 00:33:42,098
I mean, it's the same jug.
738
00:33:42,298 --> 00:33:42,858
It's just the top chairs.
739
00:33:42,858 --> 00:33:43,238
I like the other.
740
00:33:43,418 --> 00:33:45,658
I think all the other ideas I like, except for the.
741
00:33:47,218 --> 00:33:50,438
Anyway, I think the general idea is that when you have a tamper-proof bag,
742
00:33:50,438 --> 00:33:53,838
you can get another tamper-proof bag and replace it with another one.
743
00:33:54,478 --> 00:33:57,118
But I think the tamper-proof bags are numbered and stuff,
744
00:33:57,118 --> 00:34:00,938
and they have some kind of defenses like this has.
745
00:34:01,418 --> 00:34:05,198
This is like another variation on that idea.
746
00:34:05,778 --> 00:34:08,418
Generally, I think that if someone is going to rob you,
747
00:34:08,518 --> 00:34:13,918
they're probably not going to bother replacing the hardware wallet back.
748
00:34:14,878 --> 00:34:17,658
I would guess they just take it and steal the money.
749
00:34:18,878 --> 00:34:22,538
And eventually you dig it up in your backyard,
750
00:34:22,718 --> 00:34:26,218
which is I think one of the things that this guy plans on doing with it.
751
00:34:26,218 --> 00:34:29,218
and you discover, oh, my hardware wallet isn't there.
752
00:34:31,018 --> 00:34:34,698
So I don't know what, like this solves a particular edge case,
753
00:34:34,738 --> 00:34:39,218
I think, that some people feel like they're exposed to.
754
00:34:39,218 --> 00:34:41,678
I'm probably, we have to be missing something here.
755
00:34:42,498 --> 00:34:44,198
Because so you're basically, this is just,
756
00:34:44,338 --> 00:34:45,638
let me make sure I'm clarifying this.
757
00:34:46,078 --> 00:34:48,998
I promise I'm not trying to make you frustrated.
758
00:34:49,518 --> 00:34:51,218
This is just me because I'm frustrated looking at this.
759
00:34:51,258 --> 00:34:53,598
So you're saying that I put my hardware wallet
760
00:34:53,598 --> 00:34:55,138
in this glass case thing.
761
00:34:56,218 --> 00:34:59,778
I seal it up and I'm supposed to memorize that right there.
762
00:34:59,958 --> 00:35:00,958
You don't memorize it.
763
00:35:01,038 --> 00:35:01,798
You take a picture.
764
00:35:01,798 --> 00:35:04,058
I take a picture of it in my phone.
765
00:35:04,398 --> 00:35:04,638
Yes.
766
00:35:04,758 --> 00:35:06,718
And then that way, when I come back two weeks later,
767
00:35:07,138 --> 00:35:09,818
I'm supposed to look at that picture and then look at that and make sure
768
00:35:09,818 --> 00:35:10,798
that it hasn't been moved.
769
00:35:11,038 --> 00:35:11,318
Yes.
770
00:35:11,858 --> 00:35:12,198
Okay.
771
00:35:12,718 --> 00:35:13,098
Gotcha.
772
00:35:14,338 --> 00:35:15,158
That's what I think.
773
00:35:15,178 --> 00:35:16,498
That's what I think it's supposed to do.
774
00:35:16,758 --> 00:35:17,018
Yeah.
775
00:35:17,458 --> 00:35:19,778
He just showed a small difference between.
776
00:35:20,718 --> 00:35:24,618
See, you're showing like little pattern differences, I guess.
777
00:35:26,218 --> 00:35:32,518
and uh that's that's kind of the idea it's like you can just see that there are small shifts but
778
00:35:32,518 --> 00:35:38,038
if i if i knew what your hardware was can i just take a picture like i'm the person coming to take
779
00:35:38,038 --> 00:35:42,778
and i take a picture and i open it take your hardware wallet put it back and then make sure
780
00:35:42,778 --> 00:35:47,058
that it's perfect sure it looks exactly no i think that's the idea is you can't make it every time
781
00:35:47,058 --> 00:35:54,498
you screw the lid it's completely different okay that's kind of the idea yeah okay yeah it's
782
00:35:54,498 --> 00:35:57,638
noticeably different at least. I feel like it'd just be easier to just get a locker with a lock
783
00:35:57,638 --> 00:36:03,558
on it, but maybe I'm crazy. Interesting. Yeah. You could get a safe. You could get something
784
00:36:03,558 --> 00:36:08,158
with a lock where they can't get access to it, but maybe you put this in, I think some people
785
00:36:08,158 --> 00:36:12,738
would probably put this in the safe. It's kind of a game of inches at some point. You're better
786
00:36:12,738 --> 00:36:16,958
off being like Darth coin where you just put your private key on your website type of thing,
787
00:36:16,998 --> 00:36:22,158
right? I feel like you're better off doing that. I don't know if you're, I would say you're not
788
00:36:22,158 --> 00:36:34,891
better off doing that I would say this is probably overkill for an edge case And I not sure but um like what exactly the edge case like what yeah who is exposed to this particular his uh wumble question was
789
00:36:34,891 --> 00:36:43,291
what other clever ways have you seen to detect physical tampering um oh one of them uh so a lot
790
00:36:43,291 --> 00:36:50,331
of people are stamping uh seed words into uh washers now uh so i watched a video of a guy
791
00:36:50,331 --> 00:36:53,151
who dipped it in wax.
792
00:36:55,091 --> 00:36:58,671
And so the wax coating is kind of the seal on it.
793
00:36:58,791 --> 00:37:01,811
Kind of like olden letters.
794
00:37:04,311 --> 00:37:06,191
What are some other ones that I've seen?
795
00:37:07,771 --> 00:37:09,891
I think I was on CryptoCloaks' website
796
00:37:09,891 --> 00:37:11,191
because they did an AMA this week.
797
00:37:11,191 --> 00:37:18,031
And they have some kind of tamper evident case,
798
00:37:18,151 --> 00:37:20,291
I think, for some kind of steel plate.
799
00:37:20,331 --> 00:37:21,771
I don't exactly.
800
00:37:22,351 --> 00:37:27,071
It was like deep in their website somewhere because they sell so many things.
801
00:37:28,571 --> 00:37:36,451
But it says on the outside, it also says that it's like a bug, like a roach motel is kind of what it implies.
802
00:37:37,371 --> 00:37:39,951
So that's kind of a clever one that I've seen.
803
00:37:40,531 --> 00:37:41,331
Oh, this one right here.
804
00:37:45,611 --> 00:37:46,471
Yeah, there you go.
805
00:37:46,491 --> 00:37:48,111
The caution one all the way.
806
00:37:50,331 --> 00:37:51,011
Oh, this one right here.
807
00:37:51,111 --> 00:37:51,531
Oh, that's cool.
808
00:37:51,531 --> 00:37:51,731
Yeah.
809
00:37:52,131 --> 00:37:57,671
But I don't know if it's a tamper evident thing or just simply something you can hide somewhere.
810
00:37:58,811 --> 00:37:59,451
Oh, yeah.
811
00:38:00,491 --> 00:38:04,151
Yeah, I don't think it's tamper evident, but just something to try to convince someone not to.
812
00:38:04,671 --> 00:38:09,211
Yeah, I feel like that's pretty smart because then, you know, if you hide it somewhere, no one will ever look there.
813
00:38:10,031 --> 00:38:11,871
They make those for keys, too, as well.
814
00:38:13,571 --> 00:38:16,711
And then, like, rocks you can put on the outside of your house.
815
00:38:16,771 --> 00:38:17,491
They make those, too.
816
00:38:18,011 --> 00:38:18,751
That's really cool.
817
00:38:19,071 --> 00:38:19,311
Yeah.
818
00:38:19,311 --> 00:38:21,051
I don't really have any.
819
00:38:23,671 --> 00:38:24,811
I always like the,
820
00:38:24,911 --> 00:38:27,251
because we're looking at where you would hide your keys sort of thing.
821
00:38:27,711 --> 00:38:29,751
I always like the storage units.
822
00:38:29,871 --> 00:38:31,131
I always thought that was a really good idea.
823
00:38:34,311 --> 00:38:36,131
It's like the last place people would think.
824
00:38:37,951 --> 00:38:40,751
Yeah, but you have to keep paying your storage bill.
825
00:38:41,091 --> 00:38:41,811
You already have it.
826
00:38:41,811 --> 00:38:43,231
Otherwise it'll get repossessed.
827
00:38:45,771 --> 00:38:46,491
Cool stuff.
828
00:38:46,491 --> 00:38:51,471
or like you could do it like breaking bad style do it in the middle of the desert with like
829
00:38:51,471 --> 00:38:57,171
yeah get an rv well what is that with you get like a gps tracker and then you do in the middle
830
00:38:57,171 --> 00:39:04,151
of the desert then you just dig a hole yeah that's probably a really cook and uh put your
831
00:39:04,151 --> 00:39:08,351
their concede phrase somebody does real estate development there then you're kind of screwed
832
00:39:08,351 --> 00:39:12,011
anyways
833
00:39:12,011 --> 00:39:15,111
cool stuff
834
00:39:15,111 --> 00:39:17,771
Wumble's picks this week
835
00:39:17,771 --> 00:39:19,791
was oh hang on let me go back here
836
00:39:19,791 --> 00:39:21,811
Wumble's pick this week was pretty good
837
00:39:21,811 --> 00:39:23,791
let's jump
838
00:39:23,791 --> 00:39:25,731
into Keon's
839
00:39:25,731 --> 00:39:26,571
top stories
840
00:39:26,571 --> 00:39:31,451
Keon's top stories this week is
841
00:39:31,451 --> 00:39:33,551
the origins of Y Combinator
842
00:39:33,551 --> 00:39:34,871
this is from SimpleStacker
843
00:39:34,871 --> 00:39:36,531
12,000 stats Keon
844
00:39:36,531 --> 00:39:38,311
what's this
845
00:39:38,311 --> 00:39:41,171
Yeah, so SimpleStacker explained what a Y Combinator is.
846
00:39:42,591 --> 00:39:44,091
Not that Y Combinator.
847
00:39:44,471 --> 00:39:49,111
Not that Y Combinator, but the math Y Combinator, the Lambda Calculus Y Combinator.
848
00:39:49,491 --> 00:39:55,751
It's a function that finds a fixed point of any other function, meaning that if you apply,
849
00:39:58,571 --> 00:40:07,871
more or less it describes in Lambda Calculus recursive functions or programs that allow other programs to run themselves.
850
00:40:08,311 --> 00:40:13,311
And that's why Y Combinator that we're all familiar with is called Y Combinator,
851
00:40:13,311 --> 00:40:17,311
is because it's named after this Lambda Calculus thing,
852
00:40:17,311 --> 00:40:21,311
because it's a company that helps people start other companies.
853
00:40:21,311 --> 00:40:22,311
That's cool.
854
00:40:22,311 --> 00:40:24,311
Yeah, and so that's the general idea.
855
00:40:24,311 --> 00:40:27,311
I actually didn't do much Lambda Calculus in college.
856
00:40:27,311 --> 00:40:29,311
I think they might have had a class.
857
00:40:29,311 --> 00:40:33,311
I did take theoretical computer science, but I didn't encounter much Lambda Calculus stuff.
858
00:40:33,311 --> 00:40:37,311
And I regret it, because I think it probably would have been useful to think about programming
859
00:40:37,311 --> 00:40:38,711
more symbolically.
860
00:40:40,091 --> 00:40:42,171
Why do you think that would be more useful?
861
00:40:42,831 --> 00:40:49,991
Just having another perspective to think about the same thing from
862
00:40:49,991 --> 00:40:52,711
can help you understand that thing better
863
00:40:52,711 --> 00:40:56,211
or find a new attack vector for that thing.
864
00:40:56,331 --> 00:40:59,831
How do I solve this problem using programming?
865
00:40:59,831 --> 00:41:02,911
If I had two ways of thinking about it,
866
00:41:02,951 --> 00:41:05,131
I might do a better job of solving that problem
867
00:41:05,131 --> 00:41:06,871
than having one way.
868
00:41:06,871 --> 00:41:12,451
so that's um so it's kind of like being a musician and then first kind of like david billy where he's
869
00:41:12,451 --> 00:41:17,111
like a musician now and then he's an actor so he's able to do both really really well because he
870
00:41:17,111 --> 00:41:24,111
understands both uh methodologies yeah i think perhaps um but not exactly you know like it's
871
00:41:24,111 --> 00:41:28,111
kind of like a musician who plays multiple instruments more oh really oh that's cool
872
00:41:28,111 --> 00:41:34,751
yeah those are rare birds yeah yeah so uh yeah and he does more he does like a further more math
873
00:41:34,751 --> 00:41:36,711
like the math explanation of it.
874
00:41:37,591 --> 00:41:39,991
But I'm going to struggle to probably explain
875
00:41:39,997 --> 00:41:46,737
that very well but it it's it's a relevant concept everywhere else i think for establishing what is
876
00:41:46,737 --> 00:41:58,477
kind of like constant in a dynamic system okay yeah cool stuff the next post that you had was um
877
00:41:59,197 --> 00:42:07,557
lodging for wayfaring men book club number one farber's first essay this is from scoresby the
878
00:42:07,557 --> 00:42:12,737
stacker muse and books art books and articles territory 33 comments 10 000 sets key on
879
00:42:12,737 --> 00:42:18,417
what's scores we talking about this week yeah so we're doing a book club on lodging for wayfaring
880
00:42:18,417 --> 00:42:24,157
men the first uh we're supposed to have finished the first chapter by the end of this week and
881
00:42:24,157 --> 00:42:28,997
scores we're just gonna do up a post i think i'm nearly all the way through i need to check when i
882
00:42:28,997 --> 00:42:35,397
get home but um just the first we're doing one chapter every two weeks pretty slow pace are you
883
00:42:35,397 --> 00:42:41,757
allowed to join the book club even though you do audiobooks um you are oh wow okay yeah but you
884
00:42:41,757 --> 00:42:46,497
have to you have to say you can't say i read this book this chapter this week you have to say i
885
00:42:46,497 --> 00:42:54,557
listened to it is that your rule or scores his rule that's my rule all right keep going yeah
886
00:42:54,557 --> 00:43:00,457
anyway um yeah so this is like the first post in it he covered uh let an essay from the appendix
887
00:43:00,457 --> 00:43:03,617
and asked us some questions around it
888
00:43:03,617 --> 00:43:05,777
and gave his take on it.
889
00:43:07,637 --> 00:43:11,197
Is it about a guy who inherits his family's house
890
00:43:11,197 --> 00:43:12,817
and then decides to build a second house?
891
00:43:13,537 --> 00:43:14,297
Decides to what?
892
00:43:14,397 --> 00:43:15,197
Build a second house.
893
00:43:16,457 --> 00:43:17,537
I don't believe so.
894
00:43:17,637 --> 00:43:18,217
I don't believe that.
895
00:43:18,337 --> 00:43:22,257
I think it's more about kind of capitalists
896
00:43:22,257 --> 00:43:25,637
or freedom-loving people trying to escape an oppressive...
897
00:43:25,637 --> 00:43:27,877
So it has nothing to do with the house that's right here in the cover?
898
00:43:28,537 --> 00:43:28,937
No.
899
00:43:29,237 --> 00:43:30,317
Yeah, don't judge a book by it.
900
00:43:30,317 --> 00:43:37,037
cover car that's what they say turns out yeah so uh what is uh what is it about though like what's
901
00:43:37,037 --> 00:43:44,037
the um i just just i just described it it's about it's about freedom loving men trying to find a way
902
00:43:44,037 --> 00:43:49,317
to like get away from the state and just like aggressive kind of societal structure interesting
903
00:43:49,317 --> 00:43:54,677
is my i again i haven't read it yet so i don't know i also haven't read a like a synopsis on it
904
00:43:54,677 --> 00:44:00,017
i i just i i can glean kind of what i from what i've read so far in the title that
905
00:44:00,017 --> 00:44:04,797
that is probably well i'm looking forward to scores we did the one with the uh what was the
906
00:44:04,797 --> 00:44:09,517
other one that he did where he was writing every week like the new chapter review he did that for
907
00:44:09,517 --> 00:44:19,077
the praxeology of privacy yeah that's cool yeah but this one is meant to be more uh praxeology
908
00:44:19,077 --> 00:44:26,237
privacy was very dense and quite long um and so i don't think scores be expected anyone to
909
00:44:26,237 --> 00:44:30,597
participate with him, but he thinks that he'll be able to get more people to participate in this
910
00:44:30,597 --> 00:44:33,577
one. And it does seem like a lot of people have already read the book already, so they should be
911
00:44:33,577 --> 00:44:42,197
able to engage. That's awesome. Yeah. So I'm excited about that. Join if you're interested
912
00:44:42,197 --> 00:44:48,997
in reading this book. Lodging for Wayfaring Men. Yeah. It's like a big like cypherpunk reading list.
913
00:44:49,257 --> 00:44:53,457
It's like on cypherpunk reading lists is kind of where this book comes from.
914
00:44:53,457 --> 00:44:55,417
PM Scoresby, if you have any questions.
915
00:44:57,977 --> 00:45:00,597
The other one that you had was, we're going to get into some Lightning posts,
916
00:45:01,717 --> 00:45:03,237
or the Bitcoin posts, I should say.
917
00:45:03,237 --> 00:45:08,357
The other one that you had was core Lightning 26.06.9 fixes of vulnerability
918
00:45:08,357 --> 00:45:10,617
that can lead to loss of funds from Scoresby.
919
00:45:11,037 --> 00:45:13,377
BitDesk, Lightning Territory, 11 comments, 9,500 stats.
920
00:45:13,477 --> 00:45:13,857
Ken, what's this?
921
00:45:14,597 --> 00:45:17,517
Yeah, it looks like there's another loss of funds bug that came out.
922
00:45:17,677 --> 00:45:23,017
They had just, I think within a few weeks ago, they had released 26.06.
923
00:45:23,457 --> 00:45:28,977
0.8, which fixed other funds loss bugs.
924
00:45:28,977 --> 00:45:31,977
And it appears that another one has been discovered.
925
00:45:31,977 --> 00:45:34,257
So they released another version.
926
00:45:34,257 --> 00:45:37,797
And I hope anyone by now who's running Core Lightning
927
00:45:37,797 --> 00:45:39,217
is paying a lot of attention to this stuff
928
00:45:39,217 --> 00:45:42,597
and doesn't need us to tell them that they should upgrade,
929
00:45:42,597 --> 00:45:45,057
because they already have, because this came out a few days ago.
930
00:45:45,057 --> 00:45:47,717
Or they shut down their Core Lightning now, probably, right?
931
00:45:47,717 --> 00:45:50,837
That would, you know, I think that is a good, you know,
932
00:45:50,837 --> 00:45:52,677
if you're not really using Lightning, if you don't really
933
00:45:52,677 --> 00:45:54,657
need it and you don't
934
00:45:54,657 --> 00:45:55,557
want to lose sats,
935
00:45:57,217 --> 00:45:58,277
it might be
936
00:45:58,277 --> 00:46:00,017
good to wait out participating
937
00:46:00,017 --> 00:46:02,337
on the Lightning Network right now.
938
00:46:02,957 --> 00:46:04,657
Otherwise, if you are
939
00:46:04,657 --> 00:46:06,277
participating, you should be paying a lot of attention to
940
00:46:06,277 --> 00:46:08,597
what's getting released from
941
00:46:08,597 --> 00:46:10,597
the Lightning Implementation. I feel like we've been covering it
942
00:46:10,597 --> 00:46:12,577
every week, but I don't know about the other podcasts.
943
00:46:13,057 --> 00:46:13,777
We're only weekly.
944
00:46:14,217 --> 00:46:15,977
Someone needs to update probably within
945
00:46:15,977 --> 00:46:17,417
a short time frame.
946
00:46:18,577 --> 00:46:18,937
Yeah.
947
00:46:18,937 --> 00:46:26,297
um yeah check it out uh the other ones yeah that's all your stories we're gonna jump into
948
00:46:27,497 --> 00:46:34,777
my story speaking of attacks this one's the uh attacker exploit against second arcs server took
949
00:46:34,777 --> 00:46:43,817
0.75 btc this was from crew one of keon's favorite posters um yeah on monday the 5th
950
00:46:43,817 --> 00:46:59,650
of october the attacker exploited a bug in our arc server boarding flow and took 0 bitcoin of seconds only liquidity no user funds were affected boarding onto arc is supposed to be co by the server a bug let the attacker register boards with only his
951
00:46:59,650 --> 00:47:06,530
signatures then exit those boards back to his own wallet while also spending the same btxos out of
952
00:47:06,530 --> 00:47:17,170
our own of our our node via lightning but they caught it within hours um yeah this is the uh the
953
00:47:17,170 --> 00:47:18,290
a tweet right here.
954
00:47:19,710 --> 00:47:20,610
Gion, do you think
955
00:47:20,610 --> 00:47:22,470
this is going to keep happening?
956
00:47:24,590 --> 00:47:25,230
I think
957
00:47:25,230 --> 00:47:26,950
we'll probably reach a steady state at some point
958
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:27,570
where it doesn't.
959
00:47:29,370 --> 00:47:31,170
But software has
960
00:47:31,170 --> 00:47:33,190
bugs in it. Are all the
961
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:34,810
bugs out of them yet? Probably not.
962
00:47:35,290 --> 00:47:37,030
But I would guess this is changing
963
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:39,150
a lot of people's review habits when they're
964
00:47:39,150 --> 00:47:41,210
developing money software
965
00:47:41,210 --> 00:47:42,810
and they are
966
00:47:42,810 --> 00:47:44,190
red teaming themselves
967
00:47:44,190 --> 00:47:47,090
or maybe they have some relationship with
968
00:47:47,090 --> 00:47:54,730
Callie or Rob and they can get red teamed by them or Project Loop or whatever. But I think it is
969
00:47:54,730 --> 00:48:01,290
changing people's habits and for the better and using the LLMs to kind of try to find the
970
00:48:01,290 --> 00:48:07,890
vulnerabilities before someone else does. And I think they're probably engaging in better testing
971
00:48:07,890 --> 00:48:11,610
and QA practices, hopefully, and review practices.
972
00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:17,470
So my hope is that this is like a hard,
973
00:48:17,470 --> 00:48:22,470
like a, it's like a bit of a storm
974
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:24,770
and then it'll eventually be calm again
975
00:48:24,770 --> 00:48:29,150
by virtue of like a storm can't go on forever.
976
00:48:30,890 --> 00:48:32,770
And then like people react to it.
977
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:34,890
So yeah, that's kind of.
978
00:48:34,890 --> 00:48:44,010
So just to be clear, because plebs, stackers, at home don't know the difference between ARC, core lightning, and L&D, and some of these other things.
979
00:48:44,410 --> 00:48:45,930
So what was actually attacked here?
980
00:48:46,050 --> 00:48:50,030
Was it the ASP that was on top of it?
981
00:48:50,110 --> 00:48:50,890
Was it one of the...
982
00:48:51,590 --> 00:48:52,470
I actually don't know.
983
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:54,890
I don't know what they call the...
984
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:56,990
Yeah.
985
00:48:57,570 --> 00:48:58,230
Yeah, I don't know.
986
00:48:58,350 --> 00:49:00,190
Was it lightning in general that was attacked here?
987
00:49:00,190 --> 00:49:06,270
No, Lightning or Bitcoin in general isn't really a tag because it's like a system.
988
00:49:10,110 --> 00:49:15,670
Yeah, and so this is more of the software that ARK created to do ARK things
989
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:22,050
had a bug in it that allowed someone to steal money from the service itself.
990
00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:24,330
And not the users, but the service.
991
00:49:24,330 --> 00:49:33,870
So, yeah, somewhere between ARK itself and the Lightning Network, I think there's a piece in between that.
992
00:49:33,930 --> 00:49:36,270
And I believe that's what got robbed.
993
00:49:36,410 --> 00:49:40,950
But again, I didn't look too deeply or I didn't look much at all into this other than the headline.
994
00:49:41,590 --> 00:49:42,550
Yeah, and it's all on Twitter.
995
00:49:42,670 --> 00:49:43,450
There's people talking about it.
996
00:49:43,490 --> 00:49:45,290
I think Bitcoin News wrote about it.
997
00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:47,450
There's a lot of stuff.
998
00:49:47,730 --> 00:49:50,030
You can look at it.
999
00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:55,350
Um, but yeah, lost some, lost some cheese there.
1000
00:49:55,970 --> 00:49:56,650
It sucks.
1001
00:49:57,410 --> 00:50:00,150
Um, anyway, that was, I think that was one of the biggest stories this week.
1002
00:50:00,150 --> 00:50:03,550
I don't know if you, what you thought about it, but I thought that was pretty wild.
1003
00:50:03,790 --> 00:50:05,110
We have like somebody in the lab.
1004
00:50:05,150 --> 00:50:09,030
That's a big fan of arc and, uh, his heart was broken.
1005
00:50:09,370 --> 00:50:14,850
Well, a lot of people like this as, uh, as another potential scaling option for Bitcoin.
1006
00:50:14,850 --> 00:50:18,190
and I don't think
1007
00:50:18,190 --> 00:50:20,870
this is going to keep happening
1008
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:21,830
if you're running
1009
00:50:21,830 --> 00:50:24,110
Bitcoin infrastructure
1010
00:50:24,110 --> 00:50:27,030
it has money that someone's going to want to take from you
1011
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:28,870
that's just kind of
1012
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:29,730
and so yeah
1013
00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:32,290
So you think that's just where we're at now
1014
00:50:32,290 --> 00:50:35,470
if you're running money software
1015
00:50:35,470 --> 00:50:37,470
people are going to be attacking you all the time
1016
00:50:37,470 --> 00:50:38,970
because it doesn't cost them more than
1017
00:50:38,970 --> 00:50:40,570
a couple tokens to do it anyway
1018
00:50:40,570 --> 00:50:42,810
It might cost them more than that
1019
00:50:42,810 --> 00:50:44,630
I was reading a story about
1020
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:48,450
like a South Korean bank that got hacked by some script kitty in China,
1021
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:51,170
like some guy who had kind of no idea what he was doing.
1022
00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:54,050
And he was a literal college student.
1023
00:50:55,310 --> 00:50:59,650
And he hacked them and I believe stole money from them.
1024
00:50:59,650 --> 00:51:03,910
And then they were able to figure out who he was because his OPSEC was so
1025
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:07,630
terrible because he wasn't, he didn't really know what he was doing.
1026
00:51:08,810 --> 00:51:13,350
So, you know, these tools are, are available to anyone.
1027
00:51:13,350 --> 00:51:30,710
So people who were maybe, you know, were limited by, not by their moral character, which was bad, but by their skill set, are now able to use their moral character and the skills of an LLM to do the bad deeds that they would like to do.
1028
00:51:32,190 --> 00:51:32,630
Yeah.
1029
00:51:33,050 --> 00:51:40,350
It's almost like it's, kind of reminds me, the way you described that kind of reminds me of piracy when the internet was rolling out back in my day.
1030
00:51:41,710 --> 00:51:42,990
Kind of reminds me of that.
1031
00:51:43,350 --> 00:51:47,550
where there was just like this kind of like boom
1032
00:51:47,550 --> 00:51:50,230
into trying to grab as much.
1033
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:51,670
Later, Doug.
1034
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:55,410
Trying to grab as much software, free software, free movies.
1035
00:51:55,410 --> 00:51:58,650
Oh, you're going to talk about Zens?
1036
00:51:58,650 --> 00:51:59,490
Hang on one second.
1037
00:51:59,490 --> 00:52:09,803
We got breaking news Do you want to come on camera and say hi Or do you want OK yeah go for it Give me the mic So we going to move to the next story real quick guys
1038
00:52:10,403 --> 00:52:12,263
Hang on a second. Let me bring it up.
1039
00:52:13,643 --> 00:52:15,243
Right here. Who's that?
1040
00:52:15,963 --> 00:52:17,323
Do you want to talk in the camera?
1041
00:52:18,223 --> 00:52:19,603
Yeah, I'm going to just say
1042
00:52:19,603 --> 00:52:21,223
check this out.
1043
00:52:21,603 --> 00:52:23,443
What is this?
1044
00:52:24,223 --> 00:52:25,783
Oh my god.
1045
00:52:25,783 --> 00:52:27,923
It's the biggest collection of zines
1046
00:52:27,923 --> 00:52:30,943
at one time you've ever seen probably.
1047
00:52:31,723 --> 00:52:32,103
That's cool.
1048
00:52:32,323 --> 00:52:33,903
And all of these are what I'm,
1049
00:52:34,183 --> 00:52:35,483
this is what's going to tab.
1050
00:52:36,423 --> 00:52:37,483
I didn't count.
1051
00:52:37,783 --> 00:52:38,303
Oh, wow.
1052
00:52:38,363 --> 00:52:39,263
I just pressed print.
1053
00:52:39,683 --> 00:52:40,263
Oh, wow.
1054
00:52:40,663 --> 00:52:42,823
So there's like individual zines here
1055
00:52:42,823 --> 00:52:46,163
and then, yeah,
1056
00:52:46,203 --> 00:52:49,063
we'll just put this on the table at SN IRL
1057
00:52:49,063 --> 00:52:50,463
and then you can just browse
1058
00:52:50,463 --> 00:52:52,283
and see yourself in them
1059
00:52:52,283 --> 00:52:53,503
and buy them
1060
00:52:53,503 --> 00:52:55,063
and take them home
1061
00:52:55,063 --> 00:52:55,983
and love them forever.
1062
00:52:55,983 --> 00:52:58,523
Do you want to talk about this real quick?
1063
00:52:58,943 --> 00:52:59,903
That's what I'm talking about.
1064
00:52:59,983 --> 00:53:00,923
Oh, I'm going there tomorrow.
1065
00:53:01,043 --> 00:53:01,243
Yeah.
1066
00:53:01,403 --> 00:53:09,503
So I have this for tab and I have similar identical stack that's going with me tomorrow to the Lone Star Zine Fest.
1067
00:53:10,183 --> 00:53:10,623
Awesome.
1068
00:53:12,263 --> 00:53:13,203
And I'm very excited.
1069
00:53:13,323 --> 00:53:15,223
My table is going to be really cute.
1070
00:53:17,063 --> 00:53:18,503
Don't even worry about it.
1071
00:53:19,043 --> 00:53:20,783
Are you going to take pictures and show the stackers?
1072
00:53:20,823 --> 00:53:21,723
I will take pictures.
1073
00:53:22,183 --> 00:53:22,583
Awesome.
1074
00:53:23,763 --> 00:53:24,823
Kian, are you going, Kian?
1075
00:53:25,243 --> 00:53:25,903
I'm fine.
1076
00:53:25,983 --> 00:53:26,683
on stopping by.
1077
00:53:26,943 --> 00:53:28,883
Kian is planning on stopping by.
1078
00:53:29,103 --> 00:53:29,543
Oh, wow.
1079
00:53:29,803 --> 00:53:30,623
Topher, do you want to go?
1080
00:53:31,083 --> 00:53:31,543
I'll go.
1081
00:53:33,163 --> 00:53:34,023
To the zine.
1082
00:53:34,203 --> 00:53:34,943
To the zine bazaar?
1083
00:53:34,943 --> 00:53:36,363
Come see some zines, you know,
1084
00:53:36,423 --> 00:53:37,663
at the bazaar.
1085
00:53:38,343 --> 00:53:39,663
Yeah, there's like hundreds of zines.
1086
00:53:39,923 --> 00:53:41,443
There's like hundreds of zines.
1087
00:53:44,703 --> 00:53:46,223
You've never seen so many zines
1088
00:53:46,223 --> 00:53:46,723
in your life.
1089
00:53:46,903 --> 00:53:48,023
And you can dress up
1090
00:53:48,023 --> 00:53:48,703
if you want to.
1091
00:53:48,703 --> 00:53:50,363
There's a theme.
1092
00:53:52,483 --> 00:53:53,763
You got it.
1093
00:53:53,803 --> 00:53:54,583
It's 80s.
1094
00:53:55,003 --> 00:53:55,523
Okay, yeah.
1095
00:53:55,523 --> 00:53:57,103
80s prom.
1096
00:53:57,963 --> 00:53:58,583
Oh, wow.
1097
00:53:58,883 --> 00:53:59,203
Yeah.
1098
00:53:59,963 --> 00:54:00,783
That's cool.
1099
00:54:01,463 --> 00:54:03,423
Select Napoleon Dynamite, I guess.
1100
00:54:06,843 --> 00:54:09,243
Also, I'll show this off.
1101
00:54:10,403 --> 00:54:10,863
Oh, wow.
1102
00:54:11,003 --> 00:54:11,563
That's right.
1103
00:54:11,643 --> 00:54:14,063
So if you haven't been, you've been wondering where Plet Poets been.
1104
00:54:14,123 --> 00:54:14,723
She's been pregnant.
1105
00:54:15,463 --> 00:54:16,083
Here we go.
1106
00:54:16,163 --> 00:54:17,043
Do you want to talk about that?
1107
00:54:17,843 --> 00:54:18,363
That's it.
1108
00:54:18,663 --> 00:54:18,863
Okay.
1109
00:54:20,383 --> 00:54:21,663
But yeah, there it goes.
1110
00:54:21,903 --> 00:54:23,083
Enzines in space too.
1111
00:54:23,083 --> 00:54:31,743
but yeah we'll have all the uh the zines there uh on uh in tab conf next week um
1112
00:54:31,743 --> 00:54:37,003
okay and then she has she has qr codes on there so you can thank you or lightning invoices on
1113
00:54:37,003 --> 00:54:43,323
there so you can scan and uh pay her so she can you know yeah you'll be able to buy you'll be able
1114
00:54:43,323 --> 00:54:49,463
to buy issues at tab conf um i think we're good because we don't have to ship them they're only
1115
00:54:49,463 --> 00:54:50,783
2,000 sats in person.
1116
00:54:51,223 --> 00:54:51,443
Yeah.
1117
00:54:51,723 --> 00:54:53,003
And then every sat
1118
00:54:53,003 --> 00:54:55,183
you spend on that zine
1119
00:54:55,183 --> 00:54:56,763
goes to the baby.
1120
00:54:57,103 --> 00:54:58,263
So why would you not?
1121
00:54:58,543 --> 00:55:00,103
Yeah, buys diapers.
1122
00:55:00,743 --> 00:55:01,623
Facebook diapers.
1123
00:55:01,923 --> 00:55:02,303
Thank you.
1124
00:55:02,663 --> 00:55:02,943
All right.
1125
00:55:03,043 --> 00:55:03,403
Bye, Ken.
1126
00:55:04,623 --> 00:55:05,343
And then, yeah,
1127
00:55:05,343 --> 00:55:05,903
if you're in Austin,
1128
00:55:06,083 --> 00:55:08,063
check out the Lone Star Zine Fest.
1129
00:55:08,323 --> 00:55:09,283
Are you really going to go, Ken?
1130
00:55:10,203 --> 00:55:10,643
Yeah.
1131
00:55:10,643 --> 00:55:13,103
I mean, I think it's not too far away.
1132
00:55:13,283 --> 00:55:14,823
I could probably hop in a car and go.
1133
00:55:14,923 --> 00:55:15,963
I'll go with you if you go.
1134
00:55:16,483 --> 00:55:16,703
Okay.
1135
00:55:17,003 --> 00:55:17,763
I'll be here tomorrow.
1136
00:55:18,163 --> 00:55:18,703
Yeah, I'll be here.
1137
00:55:18,703 --> 00:55:24,883
cool stuff um i love it um yeah we were talking about the other thing but no i guess we'll just
1138
00:55:24,883 --> 00:55:30,943
keep going the other thing i wanted to share was zeus decoder uh evan's just been on a row man
1139
00:55:30,943 --> 00:55:39,343
he's been on a row he just released this again uh zeus decoder check it out um simple looking
1140
00:55:39,343 --> 00:55:44,523
web page with zeus sexy branding that's how it was described so you can just paste if you're
1141
00:55:44,523 --> 00:55:48,303
somebody like me that wants to know if a link transaction went through or why it failed you
1142
00:55:48,303 --> 00:55:51,983
You just drop it here and decode it.
1143
00:55:52,783 --> 00:55:56,623
I feel like the other one, wasn't there another one called Ellen something analyzer or something like that?
1144
00:55:57,223 --> 00:56:01,823
There are a ton of these decoders scattered across the web if you Google for them.
1145
00:56:02,663 --> 00:56:07,583
This one is pretty cool because the other ones have kind of fallen behind and they haven't been maintained.
1146
00:56:07,583 --> 00:56:11,023
And this one looks like it decodes Bolt 12 offers.
1147
00:56:11,043 --> 00:56:11,823
Oh, does it too?
1148
00:56:11,963 --> 00:56:13,623
And Ellen URLs and Lightning addresses.
1149
00:56:13,743 --> 00:56:17,843
It looks like it does the whole kitchen sink type stuff.
1150
00:56:19,003 --> 00:56:19,843
That's awesome.
1151
00:56:20,643 --> 00:56:21,863
Oh, so you can even do samples.
1152
00:56:22,003 --> 00:56:23,343
So that's what it looks like right there.
1153
00:56:24,343 --> 00:56:25,203
It's being decoded.
1154
00:56:25,383 --> 00:56:26,023
That looks pretty.
1155
00:56:27,343 --> 00:56:30,083
Yeah, it looks quite a bit like many of the others,
1156
00:56:30,183 --> 00:56:33,323
but there's only so many ways to display this.
1157
00:56:33,583 --> 00:56:34,103
Really cool.
1158
00:56:34,183 --> 00:56:36,183
I love the Zeus branding on black.
1159
00:56:36,283 --> 00:56:37,023
That looks really sick.
1160
00:56:37,683 --> 00:56:38,363
Cool stuff.
1161
00:56:38,423 --> 00:56:39,183
So I want to share that.
1162
00:56:39,623 --> 00:56:40,663
Cruz shared that one.
1163
00:56:40,663 --> 00:56:43,503
And then the other one I want to bring up was this one.
1164
00:56:43,843 --> 00:56:47,023
So Ben Carman went on Stephen Levera's podcast talking about,
1165
00:56:47,023 --> 00:56:51,283
lightning and agents and all that sort of thing.
1166
00:56:51,323 --> 00:56:52,683
So I'm going to press play real quick.
1167
00:57:11,263 --> 00:57:23,277
So he talks about how like the future looks very much like And he real about it because Cause Ben very considerate about like how far we out We are but he does talk about like how
1168
00:57:23,377 --> 00:57:23,777
you know,
1169
00:57:24,237 --> 00:57:25,037
right now,
1170
00:57:25,237 --> 00:57:25,597
you know,
1171
00:57:25,597 --> 00:57:27,157
we can send lightning payments to each other,
1172
00:57:27,277 --> 00:57:30,017
but maybe in the future we can just do Amazon purchases,
1173
00:57:30,017 --> 00:57:30,777
that sort of thing.
1174
00:57:30,777 --> 00:57:33,797
And then he talks about the implementation that he inputted into the
1175
00:57:33,797 --> 00:57:35,657
corn base commerce platform.
1176
00:57:35,857 --> 00:57:37,417
So really cool episode.
1177
00:57:37,537 --> 00:57:38,777
I'm like about right here,
1178
00:57:39,037 --> 00:57:39,857
the 10 minute Mark,
1179
00:57:39,857 --> 00:57:42,937
but I'll probably listen to the rest tonight
1180
00:57:42,937 --> 00:57:45,057
and then on the way to TapConf.
1181
00:57:45,917 --> 00:57:46,577
Check it out, Staggers.
1182
00:57:46,657 --> 00:57:47,957
It's worth checking out.
1183
00:57:48,757 --> 00:57:50,377
I know I asked you earlier if you saw it.
1184
00:57:50,737 --> 00:57:51,937
Yeah, I haven't seen it yet.
1185
00:57:52,177 --> 00:57:54,717
I did talk to someone recently about X402
1186
00:57:54,717 --> 00:57:58,157
and one of the things they were mentioning
1187
00:57:58,157 --> 00:58:00,177
and they're quite involved with this kind of stuff
1188
00:58:00,177 --> 00:58:01,597
and one of the things they mentioned to me
1189
00:58:01,597 --> 00:58:02,757
was that you have to be,
1190
00:58:04,097 --> 00:58:06,757
just because you put up X402 and you accept Lightning
1191
00:58:06,757 --> 00:58:08,397
doesn't mean that someone will be able to pay
1192
00:58:08,397 --> 00:58:11,037
because a lot of the bots that are using X402,
1193
00:58:11,177 --> 00:58:14,297
they're primarily operating in a variety of shit coins.
1194
00:58:14,297 --> 00:58:16,917
So you have, you kind of need,
1195
00:58:17,357 --> 00:58:19,417
it's kind of back to this barter
1196
00:58:19,417 --> 00:58:21,757
or multi-currency type of world
1197
00:58:21,757 --> 00:58:24,057
where you need a coincidence of wants.
1198
00:58:24,477 --> 00:58:28,537
Like someone needs to want what you're willing to pay.
1199
00:58:29,657 --> 00:58:31,837
And you need to pay what someone wants
1200
00:58:31,837 --> 00:58:34,417
in order for this X402 to work,
1201
00:58:34,477 --> 00:58:36,057
given that it's multi-asset.
1202
00:58:36,057 --> 00:58:41,497
um and so just putting up x402 with lightning unfortunately doesn't work you have to put up x402
1203
00:58:41,497 --> 00:58:46,537
and accept like stable coins and ethereum and all this other stuff so he kind of talks about that too
1204
00:58:46,537 --> 00:58:50,537
that's where like in the beginning part he talks about the implementation that coinbase did
1205
00:58:50,537 --> 00:58:56,697
and he explains why they did that or why he built that or you know and why they accepted it and
1206
00:58:56,697 --> 00:59:01,417
because like let's say hypothetically like because of what you're saying like let's say hypothetically
1207
00:59:01,417 --> 00:59:04,777
small mom pop shop wants to take crypto because they don't see the difference between bitcoin
1208
00:59:04,777 --> 00:59:11,397
crypto or lightning uh well now they have that option and then now x4 or l402 is in there
1209
00:59:11,397 --> 00:59:17,537
that makes any sense i'm probably explaining it wrong but watch the episode it's informing
1210
00:59:17,537 --> 00:59:23,677
that's what i'm trying to get across okay yeah either way um the other thing i wanted to mention
1211
00:59:23,677 --> 00:59:29,857
was yeah that's it that's all that's all of them we're gonna jump into our only ai post
1212
00:59:29,857 --> 00:59:38,697
this week and uh it's pretty it's pretty controversial so buckle up keon okay uh watch
1213
00:59:38,697 --> 00:59:44,517
footage of the flock search a judge wrote unconstitutional so this is pretty crazy this
1214
00:59:44,517 --> 00:59:49,237
came from scoresby uh only one comment but if you would have clicked on the link oh my gosh
1215
00:59:49,237 --> 00:59:56,417
it's crazy uh this is pretty crazy oklahoma cops pull over a lady because she had california plates
1216
00:59:56,417 --> 01:00:03,197
then using flock they claim that her quick trip from missouri to california looks like she was
1217
01:00:03,197 --> 01:00:11,537
transporting drugs uh so everything ensues after that but to check this out they actually have this
1218
01:00:11,537 --> 01:00:16,137
on video this is insane and i'll switch it here so you can hear the uh
1219
01:00:16,137 --> 01:00:26,037
Can you hear it?
1220
01:00:26,197 --> 01:00:26,397
Nope.
1221
01:00:27,957 --> 01:00:29,077
I can read the same titles.
1222
01:00:30,417 --> 01:00:33,797
I read the Scoresby's summary of it.
1223
01:00:37,217 --> 01:00:39,917
So they have her in the cop car right now.
1224
01:00:39,917 --> 01:00:40,197
Look.
1225
01:00:46,137 --> 01:01:06,257
Yeah, so he asked her to check the car.
1226
01:01:07,657 --> 01:01:10,897
And look, he needs to just search her car.
1227
01:01:11,197 --> 01:01:11,957
She says no.
1228
01:01:16,137 --> 01:01:36,657
so he goes and searches anyway but then she admits to having marijuana in the car
1229
01:01:36,657 --> 01:01:43,357
so the dog starts sniffing and then look what they find you
1230
01:01:46,137 --> 01:01:53,457
Check this out
1231
01:01:53,457 --> 01:01:55,997
Finds it
1232
01:02:03,997 --> 01:02:05,377
Look what they found
1233
01:02:05,377 --> 01:02:07,717
Isn't that wild, dude?
1234
01:02:07,717 --> 01:02:19,297
19 kilos of meth or whatever that is.
1235
01:02:19,597 --> 01:02:20,137
Meth, yeah.
1236
01:02:20,737 --> 01:02:21,557
Look at that, dude.
1237
01:02:22,057 --> 01:02:22,797
Isn't that wild?
1238
01:02:24,797 --> 01:02:29,957
So anyway, all this is controversial because...
1239
01:02:29,982 --> 01:02:33,142
yeah, because it was all done using flock.
1240
01:02:33,302 --> 01:02:36,762
So the judge, from what I understand here,
1241
01:02:36,862 --> 01:02:38,002
the judge, yeah, right here.
1242
01:02:38,762 --> 01:02:43,282
So, yeah, the court did not make the footage available online,
1243
01:02:43,322 --> 01:02:45,042
even though it was entered as evidence in the case,
1244
01:02:45,142 --> 01:02:45,782
in the footage.
1245
01:02:45,862 --> 01:02:46,922
Yeah, we know all that stuff.
1246
01:02:46,922 --> 01:02:50,902
But right here, it says that he threw it out.
1247
01:02:52,202 --> 01:02:55,202
This is where they tracked her from,
1248
01:02:55,242 --> 01:02:58,262
all the way over here, all the way over here.
1249
01:02:58,262 --> 01:03:03,102
but they were tracking her with flock do you see that i don't know if you can see that on the thing
1250
01:03:03,102 --> 01:03:07,742
keon i go to you because this is like the first time i've ever seen flock actually work
1251
01:03:07,742 --> 01:03:15,682
what do you think about this should they have arrested her yeah i just want to know your
1252
01:03:15,682 --> 01:03:19,682
thoughts on this this should they have arrested her should they have pulled a rubber i'm sorry
1253
01:03:19,682 --> 01:03:26,322
detained her i don't i don't know i don't know why they i don't know the full story i don't
1254
01:03:26,322 --> 01:03:32,842
really understand what was going on, but they used flock technology, which I don't know,
1255
01:03:32,922 --> 01:03:39,242
governments seem to be kind of forcing on people to determine that she went from Missouri to
1256
01:03:39,242 --> 01:03:45,782
California and immediately back. Like she traveled to California for apparently kind of no reason.
1257
01:03:45,782 --> 01:03:51,262
She's usually consistent, I guess, with people doing drug runs. And so that's, so flock camera
1258
01:03:51,262 --> 01:03:55,142
discovered her, basically her complete itinerary.
1259
01:03:55,582 --> 01:04:03,362
And based on that, I believe that's what allowed him to decide to search her car without her
1260
01:04:03,362 --> 01:04:05,642
consent because he thought that was maybe probable cause.
1261
01:04:05,742 --> 01:04:10,002
His flock data was probable cause for searching her car.
1262
01:04:10,602 --> 01:04:19,082
And it seems that the judge ruled that that is not probable cause, which I believe is valid.
1263
01:04:19,082 --> 01:04:31,822
Even though he did end up finding drugs in her car, I don't think that someone making a quick trip from one place to far away is probable cause for them to have their privacy violated.
1264
01:04:33,322 --> 01:04:38,422
And so I agree with the judge's ruling for whatever that matters.
1265
01:04:39,582 --> 01:04:46,222
Yeah, it's kind of in that weird space where you're kind of good that caught her, right?
1266
01:04:46,222 --> 01:04:49,762
because you don't want those drugs on the street getting into little kids' hands and stuff like that.
1267
01:04:49,862 --> 01:04:50,722
So I see that.
1268
01:04:51,302 --> 01:04:57,442
But there's also this weird kind of space where it's like they did illegally clock her doing these things.
1269
01:04:58,082 --> 01:04:59,482
And then she's detained.
1270
01:05:00,002 --> 01:05:06,242
And then she admits to having drugs on her, basically, because now he has probable cause.
1271
01:05:06,242 --> 01:05:13,302
So it's kind of like if he didn't know all this other stuff that implicated her, but he only stopped here.
1272
01:05:13,302 --> 01:05:19,122
um i don't know i don't know how i feel about this one to be honest
1273
01:05:19,122 --> 01:05:28,902
uh i don't know it's bad i mean if you make a if you if you have flat cameras catch you doing
1274
01:05:28,902 --> 01:05:33,122
you know just making a quick trip like this this means that a cop is going to detain you and search
1275
01:05:33,122 --> 01:05:37,082
your car yeah and you're not going to have any option even if you're not carrying drugs that's
1276
01:05:37,082 --> 01:05:42,462
kind of the yeah that's the other side of this even though you know i'm sure it seems like the
1277
01:05:42,462 --> 01:05:50,122
cops are happy and anyone who doesn't want people to have meth are happy um i think this is bad for
1278
01:05:50,122 --> 01:05:56,582
privacy for everyone yeah yeah i don't really i don't really know this is why i'm not a lawyer or
1279
01:05:56,582 --> 01:06:01,642
a judge they're gonna have to figure it out but it's kind of it's kind of weird it's kind of weird
1280
01:06:01,642 --> 01:06:05,042
though that flock actually got it right because this is the first case that i've seen where they
1281
01:06:05,042 --> 01:06:09,822
actually worked maybe they're just not talking about it enough i'm sure there are bunches bunches
1282
01:06:09,822 --> 01:06:11,622
of them that are allowing. Look at that puppy. He found
1283
01:06:11,622 --> 01:06:12,482
it quick, dude.
1284
01:06:15,722 --> 01:06:17,462
He knew it right away. What he's trying to do.
1285
01:06:18,422 --> 01:06:19,622
Hopefully he got a big
1286
01:06:19,622 --> 01:06:20,022
old bone.
1287
01:06:22,602 --> 01:06:22,962
Anyways,
1288
01:06:23,562 --> 01:06:25,822
I thought that was a crazy story.
1289
01:06:26,142 --> 01:06:27,322
It's not something that you see
1290
01:06:27,322 --> 01:06:29,282
at all, but
1291
01:06:29,282 --> 01:06:30,702
yeah.
1292
01:06:31,562 --> 01:06:33,002
Optimism said, when car join,
1293
01:06:33,502 --> 01:06:34,062
what does that mean?
1294
01:06:34,862 --> 01:06:36,042
You switch cars.
1295
01:06:36,662 --> 01:06:37,802
Oh, wow.
1296
01:06:37,802 --> 01:06:44,362
Yeah, you all pull up into maybe some kind of area where there's not a flock camera and you all switch cars.
1297
01:06:45,782 --> 01:06:46,222
Gosh.
1298
01:06:47,042 --> 01:06:49,142
Anyways, crazy story.
1299
01:06:49,262 --> 01:06:51,942
That's all the stories that we had this week on Stacker News Live.
1300
01:06:52,142 --> 01:06:57,382
We're going to jump into some meta real quick.
1301
01:06:58,122 --> 01:06:59,962
So this got shared by Coins Reporter.
1302
01:07:00,762 --> 01:07:05,102
He said, look, there's a new Stacker News share button.
1303
01:07:05,242 --> 01:07:05,942
Did you see that, Keon?
1304
01:07:06,462 --> 01:07:07,142
I didn't see.
1305
01:07:07,142 --> 01:07:07,582
What do you think about that?
1306
01:07:07,582 --> 01:07:13,702
what do you think about that do you like seeing that does that make you happy warm fuzzy um i
1307
01:07:13,702 --> 01:07:18,482
don't really have i don't think i have those feelings about anything but it's not it's not
1308
01:07:18,482 --> 01:07:27,222
it's not reddit right uh yeah i don't well i don't i don't have much against reddit personally
1309
01:07:27,222 --> 01:07:32,862
at least i'm surprised you didn't put stuck or dudes on top does that make you nope no feelings
1310
01:07:32,862 --> 01:07:36,022
That's the right answer.
1311
01:07:37,122 --> 01:07:47,122
No I just kidding No he shared it Predix is now sharing on Stacker News You can share it just one click I have a question for you though because this is meta Why haven we seen more of this
1312
01:07:47,642 --> 01:07:49,182
Like, just from everybody in general.
1313
01:07:49,182 --> 01:07:50,982
Like, why don't we see share on Stacker News
1314
01:07:50,982 --> 01:07:53,322
or share on Fountain? Stacker News is tiny.
1315
01:07:53,742 --> 01:07:55,082
There's not. I imagine them
1316
01:07:55,082 --> 01:07:57,342
expecting to have a person who shows up
1317
01:07:57,342 --> 01:07:59,302
who wants to share on Stacker News.
1318
01:08:00,642 --> 01:08:01,082
Okay.
1319
01:08:01,302 --> 01:08:03,402
Doesn't make much sense. Stacker News is small.
1320
01:08:04,402 --> 01:08:05,122
All right. Well,
1321
01:08:05,382 --> 01:08:07,302
that's that. And then the other
1322
01:08:07,302 --> 01:08:09,382
one was, I guess we'll cover that.
1323
01:08:09,902 --> 01:08:11,582
Cover that. Well, I guess we cover that right now.
1324
01:08:12,002 --> 01:08:12,622
So next week
1325
01:08:12,622 --> 01:08:15,622
is the week we go to
1326
01:08:15,622 --> 01:08:17,422
Atlanta. Keon's booked
1327
01:08:17,422 --> 01:08:17,922
his flight.
1328
01:08:19,322 --> 01:08:21,402
He's all ready to go. He's staying at the Trump
1329
01:08:21,402 --> 01:08:21,622
Inn.
1330
01:08:23,522 --> 01:08:24,422
Yeah, the Trump
1331
01:08:24,422 --> 01:08:26,662
hotel that doesn't exist in Atlanta.
1332
01:08:27,122 --> 01:08:29,202
I'm going to build it. They're going to build it before I show up.
1333
01:08:29,202 --> 01:08:31,262
Trump's built it for him. He's building the
1334
01:08:31,262 --> 01:08:31,642
hotel.
1335
01:08:33,062 --> 01:08:34,982
What are you looking forward to next week? Anything
1336
01:08:34,982 --> 01:08:37,162
you want to say?
1337
01:08:37,302 --> 01:08:43,362
anything i want to say not really i most i mostly just try to think about the room service that i'm
1338
01:08:43,362 --> 01:08:50,322
going to order when i like the night that i arrive that's like kind of my my main ritual when i travel
1339
01:08:50,322 --> 01:08:54,902
um i think about that i don't know just seeing people i haven't seen in a while
1340
01:08:54,902 --> 01:09:03,322
that that'll be cool um yeah and it seems like a lot of people a lot of people will be there
1341
01:09:03,322 --> 01:09:09,082
including a lot of people from austin and that's always kind of fun when we all go somewhere like
1342
01:09:09,082 --> 01:09:14,862
together yeah like a troop yeah it's gonna be fun it's gonna be a lot of fun i'm looking forward to
1343
01:09:14,862 --> 01:09:22,602
we're gonna be doing this show um on thursday i think at like 1 or 2 p.m stay tuned but i'll as
1344
01:09:22,602 --> 01:09:30,362
soon as i find out that morning or that week next week i'll post it on here um the other really cool
1345
01:09:30,362 --> 01:09:32,222
thing is Wumble is going to be on the show next week.
1346
01:09:33,142 --> 01:09:34,282
So for all the people
1347
01:09:34,282 --> 01:09:36,082
that's always like, who's Wumble's
1348
01:09:36,082 --> 01:09:37,742
picks? Who's Wumble?
1349
01:09:38,082 --> 01:09:39,642
Well, we'll see.
1350
01:09:40,062 --> 01:09:41,242
He said he's down
1351
01:09:41,242 --> 01:09:44,222
to be on the show. So it's going to be me,
1352
01:09:44,942 --> 01:09:46,122
Wumble, and then Topher
1353
01:09:46,122 --> 01:09:48,142
said he's down to also come on the show. So it's going to be a
1354
01:09:48,142 --> 01:09:50,702
four-person
1355
01:09:50,702 --> 01:09:51,922
step. Maybe I don't need to be on the show.
1356
01:09:52,022 --> 01:09:53,102
No, you should be on the show.
1357
01:09:53,642 --> 01:09:56,282
You're the star of the show. We got to have you
1358
01:09:56,282 --> 01:09:57,762
on there, but it's going to be a good show.
1359
01:09:57,762 --> 01:10:00,082
if you don't have your
1360
01:10:00,082 --> 01:10:01,482
Tabcom ticket, go ahead and get it.
1361
01:10:02,062 --> 01:10:03,522
Where's the link here? I know I think
1362
01:10:03,522 --> 01:10:05,282
somebody's had to post it.
1363
01:10:06,722 --> 01:10:08,062
Has anybody not posted it?
1364
01:10:11,122 --> 01:10:12,162
Really? No one's posted
1365
01:10:12,162 --> 01:10:14,062
to Tabcom. That's wild.
1366
01:10:15,102 --> 01:10:16,302
All right. Go here.
1367
01:10:16,542 --> 01:10:17,622
Buy your ticket.
1368
01:10:18,622 --> 01:10:20,302
Pay in fiat. You can pay with your agent.
1369
01:10:20,422 --> 01:10:21,842
You can pay in Bitcoin. That sort of thing.
1370
01:10:21,922 --> 01:10:23,202
I don't know if you can pay with your agent. I'm just kidding.
1371
01:10:23,702 --> 01:10:24,882
But go check it out. Get it now.
1372
01:10:26,262 --> 01:10:27,062
It's going to be a lot of fun.
1373
01:10:27,062 --> 01:10:28,862
I heard there's a party that's happening.
1374
01:10:30,262 --> 01:10:31,062
On Wednesday, yeah.
1375
01:10:31,202 --> 01:10:33,422
Yeah, there's going to be a barbecue at BitDevs.
1376
01:10:34,862 --> 01:10:35,922
It's going to be fun.
1377
01:10:36,402 --> 01:10:37,682
It's going to be a Snacker News Live.
1378
01:10:38,562 --> 01:10:39,722
There's going to be a Michael Tidwell.
1379
01:10:40,442 --> 01:10:42,462
It's going to be the last TabConf.
1380
01:10:42,982 --> 01:10:43,542
Oh, yeah.
1381
01:10:43,682 --> 01:10:45,622
This is like, yeah.
1382
01:10:46,182 --> 01:10:47,862
It's going to be a very sad.
1383
01:10:49,922 --> 01:10:52,062
I don't know if it's going to be kind of like,
1384
01:10:53,162 --> 01:10:54,962
what's the word for sad but happy?
1385
01:10:57,062 --> 01:11:05,642
um it's like it's gonna be emotional melancholy is that a thing i don't think that's really uh
1386
01:11:05,642 --> 01:11:12,642
well whatever that word is that's what it's gonna be next week yeah cool well yeah great
1387
01:11:12,642 --> 01:11:21,002
uh yeah that's all that right there we're gonna jump into top cowboys baby yeah every week
1388
01:11:21,002 --> 01:11:23,382
we do this show
1389
01:11:23,382 --> 01:11:25,702
this mini show inside the show
1390
01:11:25,702 --> 01:11:27,082
it's called Top Cowboys
1391
01:11:27,082 --> 01:11:28,242
that's right
1392
01:11:28,242 --> 01:11:34,642
oh I forgot to mention
1393
01:11:34,642 --> 01:11:37,942
I'm bringing those SNL DVDs
1394
01:11:37,942 --> 01:11:39,542
oh yeah you can buy
1395
01:11:39,542 --> 01:11:40,702
if you have a DVD player
1396
01:11:40,702 --> 01:11:41,562
you're one of
1397
01:11:41,562 --> 01:11:46,062
100 people on earth that still have a DVD player
1398
01:11:46,062 --> 01:11:46,502
hey man
1399
01:11:46,502 --> 01:11:49,382
and you're one of
1400
01:11:49,382 --> 01:11:56,442
three people on earth that listen to stacker news you can buy a stacker news dvd
1401
01:11:56,442 --> 01:12:02,462
hey man it's it's a it's a collector's item it's like a pokemon card but better
1402
01:12:02,462 --> 01:12:08,002
anyways i was looking at them apparently every disc has a different face on it
1403
01:12:08,002 --> 01:12:13,922
no i know yeah jan i did that so even if you don't buy us can you have me one of those
1404
01:12:13,922 --> 01:12:19,082
even if you don't even if you don't buy even if you don't buy one even if you don't buy one next
1405
01:12:19,082 --> 01:12:23,822
week you should just come by and oh this is not a good one is there another one there's one with
1406
01:12:23,822 --> 01:12:28,382
your face on it yeah i think only a few of them have yeah there's there's one like this where we
1407
01:12:28,382 --> 01:12:34,802
have like these other ones so if you don't if you don't if you don't you don't buy one you should
1408
01:12:34,802 --> 01:12:40,042
definitely come and see the see the different cover art for the dvds they're pretty hilarious
1409
01:12:40,042 --> 01:12:40,842
there's another one
1410
01:12:40,842 --> 01:12:43,382
there's only a handful of them
1411
01:12:43,382 --> 01:12:44,482
there's only a half full of them
1412
01:12:44,482 --> 01:12:47,082
there's another one
1413
01:12:47,082 --> 01:12:49,642
there we go
1414
01:12:49,642 --> 01:13:03,122
what is this look at that can you see that yeah if you have like a clear dvd player you one of two people on earth that have a clear dvd
1415
01:13:03,122 --> 01:13:07,062
player you'll be able to see our heads spinning while you're watching i mean this is what they
1416
01:13:07,062 --> 01:13:12,582
should use for their for the little thing that clocks the thing in case you should go like oh
1417
01:13:12,582 --> 01:13:13,942
I remember Keon was up.
1418
01:13:13,942 --> 01:13:14,382
Yeah, yeah.
1419
01:13:14,522 --> 01:13:16,302
Car was at 6 o'clock.
1420
01:13:18,442 --> 01:13:21,922
Anyways, just come by and look at these photos.
1421
01:13:22,602 --> 01:13:25,642
Anyway, we'll have them next week.
1422
01:13:26,862 --> 01:13:28,042
Oh, man, that was a good laugh.
1423
01:13:28,102 --> 01:13:28,722
I need to do that one.
1424
01:13:29,042 --> 01:13:31,342
Top Cowboys, getting on up.
1425
01:13:31,402 --> 01:13:32,982
Number one, we don't know who it is.
1426
01:13:33,202 --> 01:13:33,662
Could be you.
1427
01:13:34,202 --> 01:13:34,802
Listening right now.
1428
01:13:35,282 --> 01:13:35,942
Number two is Coop.
1429
01:13:36,122 --> 01:13:36,962
Number three is Undisplanned.
1430
01:13:37,022 --> 01:13:38,082
Number four is Bacchamboog.
1431
01:13:38,082 --> 01:13:39,642
Number five is Grey Ruby.
1432
01:13:40,702 --> 01:13:41,742
That's top five.
1433
01:13:42,582 --> 01:13:49,922
yeah do you have any thoughts so far um no it looks just looks exactly the same very exciting
1434
01:13:49,922 --> 01:13:56,902
exactly the same nothing's changed in probably once maybe a year uh in the top five and that's
1435
01:13:56,902 --> 01:14:01,742
what that's what makes that's what the show is all about wow this is incredible i think right here
1436
01:14:01,742 --> 01:14:09,902
so you're at 12 30 and then just once at 11 09 what's the math on that run the wonder yc
1437
01:14:09,902 --> 01:14:11,322
algorithm on this.
1438
01:14:12,802 --> 01:14:13,662
Well, I mean,
1439
01:14:13,742 --> 01:14:15,462
they're pretty clearly ranked.
1440
01:14:16,662 --> 01:14:17,942
The number
1441
01:14:17,942 --> 01:14:20,162
in the person above is higher than the person
1442
01:14:20,162 --> 01:14:21,982
below. Oh, so it's just math and
1443
01:14:21,982 --> 01:14:24,442
subtraction here? It's just really simple
1444
01:14:24,442 --> 01:14:26,242
to sending numbers.
1445
01:14:27,362 --> 01:14:28,402
That's so good.
1446
01:14:28,822 --> 01:14:30,462
Anyways, check it out.
1447
01:14:30,802 --> 01:14:31,982
Scores B, we are all
1448
01:14:31,982 --> 01:14:34,222
Satoshi Satwise. Wumble's
1449
01:14:34,222 --> 01:14:36,022
number 12. Wow. 99
1450
01:14:36,022 --> 01:14:37,822
days. Wow, he's 99 days.
1451
01:14:37,822 --> 01:14:47,622
that's crazy crypto sensei satoshi planet makovili solomon satoshi arty clark choke one crew crew's
1452
01:14:47,622 --> 01:14:54,642
been killing it lately 31 days with a cowboy hat that's crazy pretty consistent didn't he have a
1453
01:14:54,642 --> 01:14:59,522
um i saw one of his posts this week where he was talking about he had a shirt or something he was
1454
01:14:59,522 --> 01:15:04,622
giving away oh yeah it seemed like he's gonna release like five shirts at tabco where is that
1455
01:15:04,622 --> 01:15:11,522
might be on the oh right here there it goes he's gonna don't collect what you can't protect tabcom
1456
01:15:11,522 --> 01:15:17,462
t-shirt giveaway number four so he says find me at the final tab conf uh for a free t-shirt I have
1457
01:15:17,462 --> 01:15:24,542
five quotes with five graphics this is number four don't collect what you can't protect oh
1458
01:15:24,542 --> 01:15:31,562
so it's like the um Lord of the Rings thing this is t-shirt one oh if you can't beat them join them
1459
01:15:31,562 --> 01:15:32,322
That's a cool one.
1460
01:15:32,882 --> 01:15:34,242
Let's see if I can go to the other one.
1461
01:15:34,342 --> 01:15:37,542
The number two can print money.
1462
01:15:37,642 --> 01:15:38,742
I just can't people accept it.
1463
01:15:38,782 --> 01:15:39,302
That's funny.
1464
01:15:39,662 --> 01:15:41,722
And then the number three one is this one.
1465
01:15:42,562 --> 01:15:44,802
I really like this one the most.
1466
01:15:45,002 --> 01:15:46,582
Probably this one or number two.
1467
01:15:49,062 --> 01:15:49,462
Yeah.
1468
01:15:51,362 --> 01:15:52,802
Anyways, find them at TapConf.
1469
01:15:52,842 --> 01:15:54,522
He'll be there next week.
1470
01:15:55,282 --> 01:15:58,402
But yeah, Crew is going to give away t-shirts.
1471
01:15:58,542 --> 01:15:59,222
Who else is here?
1472
01:15:59,222 --> 01:16:06,262
We have RevHodl21, number 30.
1473
01:16:06,802 --> 01:16:08,682
We got Bell Curve, 38.
1474
01:16:09,022 --> 01:16:10,262
Max Webster, 40.
1475
01:16:10,382 --> 01:16:12,142
We got ShockNet, number 42.
1476
01:16:13,142 --> 01:16:15,042
Leo, 46.
1477
01:16:15,402 --> 01:16:16,342
You got me right there.
1478
01:16:16,402 --> 01:16:16,862
How many hats?
1479
01:16:17,042 --> 01:16:17,742
Oh, four days.
1480
01:16:17,802 --> 01:16:18,182
Look at that.
1481
01:16:18,422 --> 01:16:20,522
What happened to my shooter and my other thing?
1482
01:16:20,622 --> 01:16:21,042
Do they not?
1483
01:16:21,162 --> 01:16:22,382
How do I get those to post on here?
1484
01:16:22,402 --> 01:16:23,162
Go to your profile.
1485
01:16:24,022 --> 01:16:25,522
No, I'm not locked in this one.
1486
01:16:26,462 --> 01:16:26,982
Later, Tougher.
1487
01:16:27,442 --> 01:16:27,742
Bye.
1488
01:16:27,742 --> 01:16:28,342
You're heading up?
1489
01:16:28,462 --> 01:16:28,922
You're heading up?
1490
01:16:29,222 --> 01:16:29,382
Okay.
1491
01:16:30,282 --> 01:16:31,042
We're almost done.
1492
01:16:31,122 --> 01:16:31,722
We're almost done.
1493
01:16:31,842 --> 01:16:35,322
We're just, yeah, this is the prime time part of the.
1494
01:16:35,742 --> 01:16:37,282
Peter Todd, two days.
1495
01:16:37,742 --> 01:16:39,942
Creep, two days.
1496
01:16:40,162 --> 01:16:41,342
Socks, two days.
1497
01:16:41,402 --> 01:16:42,982
You said Socks is going to be there next week?
1498
01:16:43,362 --> 01:16:45,462
I don't know if that's public information.
1499
01:16:45,462 --> 01:16:46,022
I don't know.
1500
01:16:46,022 --> 01:16:47,462
Oh, doxxed.
1501
01:16:47,562 --> 01:16:47,842
Yeah.
1502
01:16:49,222 --> 01:16:50,082
Sorry, Socks.
1503
01:16:50,182 --> 01:16:50,702
I didn't know.
1504
01:16:52,262 --> 01:16:54,342
I don't think he minds that much.
1505
01:16:54,482 --> 01:16:57,162
I did know, but I didn't know you were not sharing that.
1506
01:16:57,162 --> 01:17:07,762
anyways now oscar flat poet yeah so it's all going it's all going who's going to be the number
1507
01:17:07,762 --> 01:17:18,162
100 and wow even more yeah 110 is sats less this is um he's not a dev he's not a trader just a guy
1508
01:17:18,162 --> 01:17:23,882
trying to stack harder i think clearer there you go keon probably about yeah let's see
1509
01:17:23,882 --> 01:17:26,942
Good morning, Stuckers.
1510
01:17:27,262 --> 01:17:28,202
Is that a bot in here?
1511
01:17:28,382 --> 01:17:29,582
No, doesn't look like it.
1512
01:17:29,902 --> 01:17:30,622
Looks like it to me.
1513
01:17:31,042 --> 01:17:32,022
How do you know, though?
1514
01:17:32,762 --> 01:17:34,582
Just based on, if you look at that post.
1515
01:17:34,582 --> 01:17:35,322
Well, Scoresby said hi.
1516
01:17:36,002 --> 01:17:39,942
Yeah, I don't think it's, it's not abundantly clear until you read their other comments.
1517
01:17:41,142 --> 01:17:42,082
What's the other comments?
1518
01:17:43,802 --> 01:17:45,202
Let's see here, comments.
1519
01:17:46,062 --> 01:17:46,902
You only had one comment.
1520
01:17:49,102 --> 01:17:49,502
Yeah.
1521
01:17:50,082 --> 01:17:51,402
This looks like a real person.
1522
01:17:51,402 --> 01:17:52,182
All right.
1523
01:17:52,182 --> 01:17:55,342
I mean, I look at bots all day, but.
1524
01:17:55,462 --> 01:17:55,702
Okay.
1525
01:17:57,722 --> 01:17:58,702
Pretending to be human.
1526
01:17:58,862 --> 01:18:18,102
That like the main you know it a very specific type of bot Not a bot that you talk to for programming or whatever or when you talking to yourself but it just it like a human people who prompt it to pretend it human pretending to human commenting on a website cool stuff kia that all the stories you have today
1527
01:18:18,102 --> 01:18:25,222
kia what are you doing this weekend uh what am i doing i'm going to the zine fest tomorrow
1528
01:18:25,942 --> 01:18:26,902
We can walk there, right?
1529
01:18:26,962 --> 01:18:28,342
That's not too far, is it?
1530
01:18:28,502 --> 01:18:29,182
Blue Genie?
1531
01:18:30,242 --> 01:18:31,682
I think it's pretty far.
1532
01:18:32,642 --> 01:18:35,302
But I'm actually not super familiar with where it is.
1533
01:18:35,302 --> 01:18:37,022
Because we could just go all the way down 7th.
1534
01:18:38,682 --> 01:18:39,882
To go to Blue Genie?
1535
01:18:40,162 --> 01:18:41,422
Because it's off an airport.
1536
01:18:41,862 --> 01:18:46,022
Because 7th Street is really pretty close to...
1537
01:18:46,022 --> 01:18:49,242
The airport is over there.
1538
01:18:50,182 --> 01:18:51,482
It's just down the hill.
1539
01:18:51,482 --> 01:18:55,562
I mean, yeah, if you want to walk for an hour to get there.
1540
01:18:55,902 --> 01:18:56,582
I'm down to walk.
1541
01:18:56,962 --> 01:18:57,742
I've been walking along.
1542
01:18:58,082 --> 01:18:58,382
All right.
1543
01:18:59,322 --> 01:19:01,202
Yeah, so that's going on.
1544
01:19:01,282 --> 01:19:05,382
I had to get ready for a tab conf, so getting some merch packed up.
1545
01:19:05,802 --> 01:19:07,282
Oh, are you taking all that stuff?
1546
01:19:07,542 --> 01:19:08,542
I'm taking some hats.
1547
01:19:08,902 --> 01:19:10,362
Yeah, so if anyone wants some hats.
1548
01:19:10,522 --> 01:19:11,842
Do you want me to put some in the car?
1549
01:19:12,722 --> 01:19:13,142
Oh, that's right.
1550
01:19:13,182 --> 01:19:14,042
You guys have the car.
1551
01:19:14,142 --> 01:19:16,002
Yeah, I was going to take that bin right there.
1552
01:19:16,022 --> 01:19:17,742
I was talking to Saru about it, but take that bin,
1553
01:19:17,742 --> 01:19:20,782
and I was going to take this, that, that, and the DVDs.
1554
01:19:21,482 --> 01:19:23,702
Okay, yeah, well, I'll know better tomorrow
1555
01:19:23,702 --> 01:19:27,102
because I think me and Scoresby are going to break it up.
1556
01:19:27,582 --> 01:19:30,322
But yeah, that's really it.
1557
01:19:30,402 --> 01:19:31,142
Not much else.
1558
01:19:31,322 --> 01:19:31,742
How about you?
1559
01:19:32,402 --> 01:19:33,542
Yeah, same thing like you.
1560
01:19:33,642 --> 01:19:34,642
Pack for tab.
1561
01:19:35,762 --> 01:19:37,362
Bring all the stuff that we need to bring.
1562
01:19:38,182 --> 01:19:40,382
And then you got to get some work done.
1563
01:19:41,382 --> 01:19:43,602
And then check out the zine stuff.
1564
01:19:44,322 --> 01:19:46,902
I really want to see the Elizabeth Holmes documentary.
1565
01:19:46,902 --> 01:19:47,622
It came out.
1566
01:19:48,662 --> 01:19:49,062
Oh, yeah.
1567
01:19:49,062 --> 01:19:55,442
I'm going with Jana and my wife to go see that, I think, when we come.
1568
01:19:55,662 --> 01:19:56,642
No, it doesn't come out.
1569
01:19:56,762 --> 01:19:57,642
It won't come back, I think.
1570
01:19:57,822 --> 01:19:59,202
No, I think it got released already.
1571
01:19:59,442 --> 01:19:59,722
Really?
1572
01:19:59,982 --> 01:20:01,002
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
1573
01:20:01,022 --> 01:20:03,062
We're going to go to Violet Crown to watch it, I think.
1574
01:20:03,382 --> 01:20:04,542
Everything you see or something.
1575
01:20:05,602 --> 01:20:05,982
Yeah.
1576
01:20:06,622 --> 01:20:06,982
Everything.
1577
01:20:08,342 --> 01:20:09,422
You can see everything.
1578
01:20:09,822 --> 01:20:10,602
You can see everything.
1579
01:20:11,522 --> 01:20:14,982
You can see everything, I think.
1580
01:20:15,922 --> 01:20:16,642
Yeah, right here.
1581
01:20:17,322 --> 01:20:17,982
Yeah, it came out.
1582
01:20:17,982 --> 01:20:19,602
Oh, no, the 15th.
1583
01:20:19,702 --> 01:20:20,302
Are we on the 15th?
1584
01:20:20,362 --> 01:20:21,002
Oh, that's actually...
1585
01:20:21,002 --> 01:20:21,682
Yeah, so it comes out next week.
1586
01:20:21,702 --> 01:20:22,782
How are people watching it?
1587
01:20:22,842 --> 01:20:24,842
Oh, there might just be private screens in town
1588
01:20:24,842 --> 01:20:26,502
that are going around.
1589
01:20:26,622 --> 01:20:30,022
Well, she is in a minimum security prison
1590
01:20:30,022 --> 01:20:32,522
or like a low security prison in Texas,
1591
01:20:32,982 --> 01:20:34,282
just right outside, as far as I know,
1592
01:20:34,342 --> 01:20:35,262
right outside of Austin.
1593
01:20:35,362 --> 01:20:38,382
And she is soon, I think, to be released
1594
01:20:38,382 --> 01:20:42,122
just outside of Austin to a halfway house
1595
01:20:42,122 --> 01:20:43,302
where she is free to roam.
1596
01:20:43,402 --> 01:20:45,262
We might see her at like Capital Factory and stuff.
1597
01:20:46,222 --> 01:20:46,942
You're joking.
1598
01:20:47,222 --> 01:20:47,442
No.
1599
01:20:47,442 --> 01:20:48,822
Where did you hear this from?
1600
01:20:49,082 --> 01:20:51,782
My wife told me, but she maybe watched it in a reel.
1601
01:20:51,982 --> 01:20:53,162
I have no idea.
1602
01:20:53,602 --> 01:20:54,522
In Texas?
1603
01:20:58,022 --> 01:21:00,462
Yeah, so her current facility.
1604
01:21:02,282 --> 01:21:04,322
Oh, yeah, you're right.
1605
01:21:05,782 --> 01:21:06,262
Crazy.
1606
01:21:07,762 --> 01:21:09,122
There it goes right there.
1607
01:21:09,682 --> 01:21:11,602
So, which was in August.
1608
01:21:11,822 --> 01:21:13,362
Well, no, that was in Austin.
1609
01:21:13,922 --> 01:21:14,962
2027, though.
1610
01:21:15,302 --> 01:21:16,442
Okay, so next year.
1611
01:21:16,442 --> 01:21:19,522
So yeah, scheduled place in Austin Transitional Center.
1612
01:21:20,582 --> 01:21:21,622
That's crazy.
1613
01:21:22,302 --> 01:21:23,362
Del Valle, dude.
1614
01:21:24,022 --> 01:21:24,902
Oh, crap.
1615
01:21:25,002 --> 01:21:25,322
Really?
1616
01:21:26,582 --> 01:21:28,662
So she's going to get locked up over there in county?
1617
01:21:29,522 --> 01:21:31,182
Or that over there by?
1618
01:21:32,402 --> 01:21:35,002
Halfway house means that she doesn't have to be there permanent.
1619
01:21:35,002 --> 01:21:35,922
Oh, there's a halfway house in Del Valle.
1620
01:21:36,222 --> 01:21:36,662
Wow.
1621
01:21:37,202 --> 01:21:39,022
Because there's a place out there.
1622
01:21:39,122 --> 01:21:40,562
There's like a, I wouldn't call it a prison.
1623
01:21:40,942 --> 01:21:43,162
I thought it was called county, but I guess it's called something else.
1624
01:21:43,742 --> 01:21:44,682
That's crazy.
1625
01:21:44,682 --> 01:21:46,882
I believe what a halfway house means is you can leave.
1626
01:21:46,982 --> 01:21:49,062
You're free to leave some of the time.
1627
01:21:49,782 --> 01:21:50,562
That's wild.
1628
01:21:51,522 --> 01:21:52,842
Probably because she has a kid.
1629
01:21:52,842 --> 01:21:53,022
You're right.
1630
01:21:53,122 --> 01:21:53,322
Look.
1631
01:21:53,922 --> 01:21:55,742
Her sentence has been reduced to 10 years.
1632
01:21:56,462 --> 01:22:00,002
She's now going to be released February 22nd of 2030.
1633
01:22:00,422 --> 01:22:02,522
Holmes resided in Austin to be surprised by the United States.
1634
01:22:03,282 --> 01:22:04,102
Oh, wow.
1635
01:22:05,062 --> 01:22:05,522
Yeah, dude.
1636
01:22:05,642 --> 01:22:06,502
It's wild times.
1637
01:22:06,902 --> 01:22:09,582
Might be able to get an angel check from Elizabeth Holmes.
1638
01:22:09,902 --> 01:22:10,302
What?
1639
01:22:11,402 --> 01:22:12,062
No way.
1640
01:22:12,342 --> 01:22:13,602
Get her on that cap table.
1641
01:22:14,682 --> 01:22:23,762
that's funny uh dang that's crazy man this is gonna be yeah can't wait to see the movie i keep
1642
01:22:23,762 --> 01:22:27,962
hearing it's like freaking amazing i was watching like a review up until a point where i just like
1643
01:22:27,962 --> 01:22:34,242
stopped i was like okay too many spoilers well yeah but this person said this is the third thing
1644
01:22:34,242 --> 01:22:41,122
third time i heard this like the best documentary ever made i was like what like but i mean who
1645
01:22:41,122 --> 01:22:46,722
knows this guy nathan filder is pretty uh i mean i don't know if you ever saw yeah i don't know if
1646
01:22:46,722 --> 01:22:52,002
you ever saw his other shows but he has this kind of thing about him jana has me watching the curse
1647
01:22:52,002 --> 01:22:58,402
or she yeah yeah she mentioned the curse and i've been watching it yeah anyways can't wait for it
1648
01:22:58,402 --> 01:23:04,242
i thought it was out already but next week yeah maybe i'll go see in atlanta
1649
01:23:05,682 --> 01:23:10,882
you want you can come with us on tuesday maybe yeah we'll see i'm gonna be busy when we come back
1650
01:23:10,882 --> 01:23:17,742
Anyways, stackers, if you've never, I was going to say, I'm so tired.
1651
01:23:18,202 --> 01:23:19,982
If you've never seen this crazy show,
1652
01:23:19,993 --> 01:23:24,693
that's what you say at the beginning i know we're glad that you joined us this week we're looking
1653
01:23:24,693 --> 01:23:32,833
forward to seeing you next week in atlanta and it'll be on thursday so um have a great time and
1654
01:23:32,833 --> 01:23:35,613
uh have fun kian zap