112: Snow White - ANOTHER Disney Remake!? Movie Review

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Hello, welcome back to another episode of Somewhere Between, Somewhere Between,
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a film NTV podcast. We're your hosts. I am Daniel
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Park and I'm Erwin trou and number one, thank you
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so much for listening and watching Number two. What are
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they gonna do?
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They're gonna like comment and subscribe?
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You got it? Please like common and subscribe. Yes, point
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in the area, depending on where I want to put it. Okay,
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you're you're right here. Yeah, it's just like, anyway, what
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is it that we are reviewing?
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Snow white?
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Snow white not snow white in the Seven Dwarves, not
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snow white and the Huntsman or snow white in the
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Huntsman two. But yeah, there's a billion of them.
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When they mentioned Huntsmen and I saw the thing, was like,
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oh yeah, I forgot about that.
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No, because they brought it up themselves. I was like, hey,
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I kind of liked that first one. Yeah, I never
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saw the second one, was it? Charlie Yeah, and Christen
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Stewart and suns Worth you and I don't think any
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of the doors are in it because they're not edgy
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enough to be in al I'm prety sure they'd be
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and remake like that. Oh yeah, I do not know
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what those doors are up.
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To edging thoughts. Okay, we have no yet.
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So the thing is in that movie, there's seven of
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them and they all live in a house. I've got
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a lot of questions about that before we get into that.
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What is this movie, this particular Disney adaptation of snow
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White about.
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It's about a princess that loses his loses his, loses
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her parents, and this evil step mom takes over the
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kingdom and somehow this princess meets seven small people yeah,
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and is like, hey, what if I use these seven
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small people to help the way up the ladder?
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Yea, so to speak. And then she meets and then
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she meets another seven people.
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Oh yeah, other bandits yeah, and like another like not
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Prince Charming but sort of like another.
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Like his name is like Jonathan or something.
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Yes, yeah, but was it looking guy?
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He's yeah? He this movie. I'm gonna bring up a
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couple of points before we fully get into that. But
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I'm gonna put a note in that because I'm going
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to get back to what you just said. The whole thing.
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It is, of course a Disney live action remake. I
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don't know if we've e ever reviewed one of these
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on here. Before we have, we've reviewed Mufasa, but.
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That wasn't even like the sequel to.
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That was an original idea. And before we get into everything,
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because I'm trying to realize, I think we might have
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a lot to say. Did you love it? Did you
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hate it? Or are you somewhere between?
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I would say I'm somewhere between.
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Yeah, in a positive way or in a negative way.
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I would say positive. Yeah, I would say positive.
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All right, guys, before you click on that dislike button,
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you probably saw the thumb.
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I'm biased on Rachel. I like her a lot.
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Yeah, so like, so we're going to preface that by saying,
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if you're one of those people that's like I hate
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her for whatever, various reasons outside of her, like just
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not being a fan of her, like her acting, fuck off.
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So the Curse, Yes, that wasn't very snow white.
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I mean, oh yeah, he's like you got meat in
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this one but in one song. But I'm also somewhere
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between on it, also in a positive way, not like
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a heavily positive way. No, I'm not about to go
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to bat for this movie. If you hated it, I
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get it.
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Yeah, I'm not about to dribble around this either that. Yeah,
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dribble you said bad?
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Yeah, if you loved it.
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Also, I'm not really watch I don't watch sports, guys.
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I'm in I'm positive in it in a way where
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I watch sports. Not really, I don't know.
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But you wear sports shoes.
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I love shoes.
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Yeah, but you isn't that basketball? Do you watch basketball? No? Okay, continue, Yeah,
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but I only if you want I'm going to continue.
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Okay, Well, I'm I'm telling you can choice. If you
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loved it, I'm a little bit more confused. But if
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you hate it, I get that more than I get
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loving it. But then yet I'm still positive on it,
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if that makes any kind of sense. So there's a
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lot to say here, But before we do, what do
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you think of the live action remix? Just generally speaking, I.
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Mean, I think it's nice that they are coming back
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and new audience members are getting to like watch these
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stories again. But I can understand why people would be upset,
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especially if they have seen the animated ones. So for example,
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like Leelo and Stitch coming out, I'm excited, even though
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I've already seen the movie and I've seen some of
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the show as well, and.
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You've seen Stitch has a glitch and Lee Royan stitch
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and Dude glitch.
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I can't, but but I can see why people will
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be complaining because it's like, why make a remake of
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a live act or a live action remake when these
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movies already exist?
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Right?
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But I think a lot of people forget or tend
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to forget that these some things movies came out like
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decades ago two and it has been a long time,
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and so seeing this, especially in a live action format,
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could be completely different as well, especially if they have
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like some type of twist that they want to attend
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for especially since a lot of people are asking about
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originality lately.
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For sure, Yes, and then a movie will come out
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that's original and then nobody watches it, Mickey. So the
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whole thing here, I don't know if I like, I'm
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gonna agree on like some of what you said, Yeah,
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because I love the animated original stuff. I'm not about
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to be one of those people all of a sudden
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everybody's an expert on everything whenever they're mad about something. Yeah,
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people with a Little Mermaid. I never saw it, but
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that's the one that I skipped and I've heard it's good.
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I've heard that the all the ones that like I
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randomly just chose not to watch, that's the one I've
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heard is good, and there is an opportunity, like you said,
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to tell a new version of the story. But I
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feel personally what a lot of these movies do wrong,
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including this one, a movie that I'm somewhat positive on,
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is just going back to the same well like she does,
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and the whole trend of this where it's just sort
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of the same movie because they feel like they're provoking someone,
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that someone's going to take offense to it or whatever
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because you changed something in the substance of the original.
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But then these are also based off of grim fairy
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tales where you could say something different. Mulan was a
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huge wasted opportunity. I did not like that movie. I
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thought that.
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They ever moved so many people like things about uh
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the animated Mulon right, I H yeah.
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It was just it was just a repeat. I don't
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like when they do that. The worst of it, to
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an almost offensive degree, is The Lion King. I thought
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that that movie was not good at all. Aladdin, I like,
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I thought Aladdin added some new stuff to it. Like
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you said, I thought that some of the song recreations
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were good. I just genuinely I like that movie overall.
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I thought I had a good energy behind it and
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I was being the beast. I don't like that one, really, Yeah,
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I don't.
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I like the live action one.
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I found it to be just another one of those
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like here's the thing bee.
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By be so and I think that's sorts. But I
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love the animated one yeah a lot. And I think
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because it's the fact that it's also the same refeat.
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I'm like, oh, I like this a lot too, really, So,
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I don't know. Maybe I think it's just like a
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pick and choose it definitely is it sucks?
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Yeah, But I don't know.
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I guess no going in there expecting something to I don't.
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I think that's what really delves into a lot of your,
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like people's thoughts and opinions.
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I'm gonna say, based off the reception of this one
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in particular, and how we felt about it, yeah, that
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I think it might just depend on my mood, based
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off based off of when I see one, I got up.
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I was in an incredible mood I saw it. I
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went in bitter and with this zero expectation and then
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slowly like by the time it got to a song
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I thought was really really good, and it was pretty
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early on was the I've played it a couple of
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times and yet I'm blanking on what it's even called.
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And I sent it to you. I was like, this
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song is really good.
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The Princess It's not Princess Problems.
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That one's good too, but the one early on where
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it's like, it's the Mowana, it's the let it Go,
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it's the I'm why can't I beat my father's daughter?
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That thing where she's like, I'm it's in the trailer
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she goes like I'm waiting on a wish or something
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like that. That one where she looks in the well
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and all that, and I that's around that time was
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when I was like, ah, you got me. I was like,
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you know what from here? And then I have a
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lot of.
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Issues with this also, though, yes, I yeah, but.
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Overall I found it an enjoyable enough experience, which might
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be a backhanded compliment, but still I think overall this
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compares more positively than the other ones.
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For sure.
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Cinderella is probably still my favorite, along with The Jungle Book.
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I think Oh yeah, I did like the Jungle Book.
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Yeah, yeah, but what did you think about this?
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Yeah, I went in the movie same thing, zero to
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very low expectations as well. I didn't think there's gonna
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be a lot of.
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Songs, and honestly I was really surprised.
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Yeah, because I don't know, it's just like from the
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original there wasn't as many. But then again, it's like
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it was really short too, and I thought they were
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really going to focus heavily on just like for sure
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production of the movie, Yeah, and just showcasing the characters
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elements and like like in the Dwarves as well. But overall,
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I enjoyed it. I enjoyed seeing these characters back again
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on the screen. And I think Rachel Zgly did a
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great job playing snow White, the best part of it
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for sure. And then I like, I like the Dwarves.
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I don't like the way they look, but I I
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enjoyed their presence and I understand like why people would
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like the doors, especially in the animated one and then
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possibly in the live action.
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One as well. Okay, well, I'm going to say the Dwarves.
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The case of the Dwarves in this the like Grumpy
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frumpy mummy, like.
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Yeah, his name was not gropy. There were seven of them.
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I'm sorry, there were seven of them, and then none
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of them were like I'm gropy.
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Now, don't get that.
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I'm not good like this.
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I'm gropy, dude, I got I got one other random
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ass issue with the dwarves in this Why are they
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so insistent on their nine to five?
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Like who do they work for?
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Who do they live for?
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What?
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Hundreds of years?
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No, they keep on. They have that running joke. It's
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like two hundred and seventy four years to be exact.
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That makes sense, yeah, doc, But then one of them
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says two seventy five and then he just keeps correcting them.
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But like why you said that before off like screen,
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but when we were recording, you said that they worked
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for the man? Who is that? Like, who's the man?
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The king?
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They never cared about the king though.
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I thought they said they cared about the king. Well,
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why would the kingdom have diamonds if the one's mine?
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I don't know. But then gal Gado has them and
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like they're like.
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Let me talk about the negatives.
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We'll get Well, I just want to Yeah you know what, Okay,
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let's go back and forth. Let's just do what so
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what about that? Let me complain about the dwarves a
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little bit more. Still out you talk about gal Gado,
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but gal Gado in this.
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Guys, I didn't like gal Gado in this whatsoever. I think,
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like the moment she came off screening, I was like, Okay,
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I lately are all the things I've seen her in
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they haven't been great lately, but maybe this one will
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be different because she's playing like another lead role, but
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she's a villain again. That's a red notice, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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And I did not like her or I didn't like
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that movie in general, so this didn't help her. But
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in this one in particular, I think when people would
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talk about her acting, people talk about her acting a lot. Yeah,
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and in this one, her performance it just wasn't good
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to me, especially trying to showcase a villain aspect in
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having to, I don't know, to show a lot of
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like dominance and like assertiveness and that role that she had,
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it just wasn't convincing to me. And I did like
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the song that she had, but I don't think it
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was probably like my least favorite though compared to with
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the other songs that were played as well, right, And
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I don't know, it's just anytime she showed herself on
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screen and compared to the other acting that was happening,
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she was very low.
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Yeah, I want to clarify before we get more into
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Gallagado and Rachel Zegler and all that. I know some
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of the controversies around this. We don't review actors politics,
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so we're like going to leave that all out of it.
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That being said, guys, I review it on my Twitter account. Yeah,
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but you don't use that, Okay. Well, I'm just letting
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you guys know.
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That being said, I'm a little different on Galaghado's performance
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in that I was with it for a while up
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until I was like, I don't know if she's still
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going for the thing I think I thought she was
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going for, Yeah, because.
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I wish it was. She showed more like ruthlessness yeah too,
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Like instead of just being more like who is the
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fairest of them all? Which I totally get. Yeah, but
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I just showed more like of her destroying the kingdom
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instead of it just being colorless.
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Well, something that bothered me about that plot in particular
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is once you start realizing how thin the plot for
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snow White is in this it starts to affect, you know,
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the entire construction of the movie itself. The original. It's
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funny because this movie is a twenty twenty five remake
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of a nineteen thirty seven I Believe Ye, which was revolutionary.
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It is held up in high regard and I've seen
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it quite a few times. It is a testament to
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creating a brand new form of art, which, in contrast,
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if you feel like this movie is kind of offensive
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in the sense that it's like taking something that is
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very original back when it had come out, and then
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you're just like, well, this is just every other thing.
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I get it. But since that was so short and
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revolutionary at the time, it's not like there's a whole
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lot of plot to go off of there. Yeah. One
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of the things that gets affected is once you realize
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how sort of small the beats are in the first
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which then ties in to Galagado's performance as the evil Queen,
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where I'm like, she didn't have a whole lot of
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motivation going for her exactly.
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She's like an evil witch, let's say, and just wants
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diamonds and to rule over this kingdom, which then goes
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back to my other point where people will be upset
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about why wasn't this the same as the original? Then
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it's also like why couldn't they change things from the
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original as well? And you can't really have it both ways, right, No,
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you can't. So in this movie, I would think that
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they would try to like add more to her character
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and or just change things up to have a stronger
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point for her.
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And then with that, which I'll get back into a second,
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but really going back into her performance, I also like
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the song. I thought the song was very, very good actually,
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but that then with this movie's one of those ones
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I forgot what we reviewed. We went back and forth
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and back and forth on our positive negatives. I felt
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exactly this way watching it. There to be a scene
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where I was like, I like it every time.
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Ever cut to Galado, I was like, oh yeah.
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But at first I was kind of looking forward to
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it because I liked the performance for a while, and
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then I don't know, I keep on cutting or some
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slack or something, but maybe I shouldn't, or it's like
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the stiff neck.
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And I was like, she's just not It's just a costume.
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The thing is acting against her in terms of her
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trying to communicate any form, but.
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It's also her facial expressions.
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Which she can't really she can't.
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I don't know. Yeah, Like it's just she just has
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like a smile to her and that's say, it looks
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like she's just giving her model look the entire time.
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It's just looking very.
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Like, yeah, she's doing that, like the red carpet posing thing.
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But I will say there's a line delivery of hers
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I kind of love early on where she's like, I
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don't recall you being quite this opinionated, and then I
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like that.
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I like, but then I realized that I thought she
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said it. I thought she said it that way on purpose,
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and then I was like, oh, OLLI her lines are.
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Kind of like that.
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There's a that's what I wish it was like a
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lot stronger, yeah, and just more menacing.
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I get what she's going for. She's going for the ursula,
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the like the campy nature of a Disney villain. Yes,
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and we have seen that pretty successfully in live action things.
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I know it's not live action technically, it's photorealistic, but
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mas Michelson and Mufasa awesome. That was one of the
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better villains in recent memory. In my head in that
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I don't remember Aladdin's villain alto weve I might say
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something about whoever played Jafar. Yeah, I don't remember. But
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I also, oh, yeah, we complain that they have a
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villain problem right now because they kind of do Disney. Yeah,
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I mean, I don't you remember that? Oh yeah, I
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don't know.
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Well, Disney's villains are always up and down. That's true,
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They're hardly ever up.
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But let's compare this to the nature of like the genuine,
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actual campiness of the energy that comes from a two.
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D animated I like to think though, when it comes
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to musicals, especially Disney music movies, Yeah, typically a lot
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of times their villains are as good as their songs too.
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The songs of Lion King too, like Lion King as well,
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the animated one where a Scar had this song be
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prepared amazing, right, and people just connect to it right away.
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And so it's like stuff like that where I wish
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they really took some of that energy and put it
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into her music.
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That's how I kind of felt about I feel like
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there's just a lot of the reason why this movie
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felt like a mishmash of things is I feel like
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there's a lot of varying ranges of talent.
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And this is why I like the Dwarves because, especially
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with the part about the high ho Art came up,
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I felt the same energy whenever I watched the animated
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one again. Yeah, and it's like the same type of level.
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I'm gonna be honest with you. I like the song.
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I like the Dwarves. Actually, what I did not like
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is they have a very like kind of uncanny valley
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polar express looking thing to them. So that song, yes,
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when it was isolated to just them in the minds,
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I was like, this is a nightmare. This looks like hell.
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However, I wish they were showcased more because they weren't, really,
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especially every individual one too.
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I liked I like them when a real person was
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with them, because at least I was like, Okay, they're
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their own thing. They're not supposed to be reality.
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They're not real.
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Come down, you know how Like people say that they
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have those like when you're sleeping and you're stuck in
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a nightmare and a paralysis demon. I feel like I
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would see probably sleepy doing like this, like ormony or
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gropy or either anything.
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There's no gropy and mony demons, but what are your
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seven deadly sins?
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But Rachel Zegler at least like credit to her for
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acting along. I thought they were like kind of real
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based off of that. But what that made me realize, though,
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how much time she spends with them is like going
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back to the plot thing, she spends a whole lot
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of time fucking around before she ever goes back to
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the kingdom, And like, I don't know the motivation for
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her to be like I'm gonna take my kingdom back.
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She didn't really go out there with that intention, No,
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Like I kind of just ran away. Yeah. I liked
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the character development sorta. I liked where it landed in
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the end, but I was like, what kind of made
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her even get to that point in the first place.
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That's true, but I think it's what you said earlier too,
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because even with the original, it's just it was short
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and the story itself wasn't enough to sustain a whole
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movie the way it is now, and so it used
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to keep pushing the story along, yeah, which which included
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more music first, and then how do you have these
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characters interact with one another and like keep pushing the
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story along as well? Because with with Gogodo's character, she
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could have just went along and just gave the apple
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right away. Yeah, and now, wait, like.
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No, because that's the other thing about Disney villains. They're
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supposed to relish in their evil. I so I liked
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the part when she randomly started not sitting coming, yeah,
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but when she turned into an old lady and then
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I'm pretty sure that's a separate person's performance, which is
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probably why I was like, oh, this is good. Oh yeah,
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I did like that part. Yeah, but I liked the
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part where she was throwing the stuff in the cauldron
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at the apple. And then there was one part that
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I was like, please take this opportunity, do not make
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it a missed opportunity, where she's walking and then the
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shadows are projecting against the thing and then you can
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see her body physically changing. I was like, yes, thank
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you for that, because I thought that looked really cool. Yeah,
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and I just wish there was more to her feeling
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like she enjoyed being evil. Instead, I got a kind
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of weird perform Mormans that I can't really defend.
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Unless she was holding back yeah, right, and she just
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like tiptoed around that line until the very end of
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the movie, and I wish she just showcased it more
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from the very beginning instead of just going through a
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montage as well of like through the years.
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No, but didn't it feel like the over the top
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nature was kind of given to her because I feel
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like Mark Webb, which by the way, we got to
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get to that. Yeah, but I feel like Mark Webb
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was kind of giving her the idea of like the
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script itself. Even so, she walks in, she's Galgado, she
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doesn't have any of the stuff on, but once she
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tricks him. In the next shot, she's putting on the
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rings and all this stuff, and she's immediately evil once
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she finally gets what she wants. That's hilarious. That's really cool. Yeah,
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if you can get that sort of like immediately like
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insanely goofy energy conveyed. But her performance doesn't match the character,
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so it comes off like she's still holding a reserving
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Like you just said.
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I think it's an entire movie, it's just her acting
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in this one particular, it just didn't It just didn't
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give enough energy compared to the costume, like that world itself.
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Yeah. So and that's another thing is I.
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Did like the chemistry between like that one bandit and
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uh snow White.
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Yeah, so now we can bring Mark web into the
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equation yere once I did you know that Mark Webb
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was going into.
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It now until afterwards?
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Yeah, Mark Web. I saw the credits and I was like,
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the man behind amazing Spider Man won two five hundred
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Days of Summer and I'm forgetting one other thing.
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But the amount of times I keep seeing five hund
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Days of Summer like pop up.
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Oh, yeah, it's kind of like a TikTok movie now,
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but like it is very good. But that's why.
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What are your thoughts on Summer?
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That's one of my favorite movies that my opinion changes
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each time I see it based off of like, but
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people say it will based off of your current moment
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in time.
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I would say the way I feel about it now
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is that it was his name Tom.
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I think, oh jess Lo.
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Yeah, his character he was wrong.
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I feel like he was delusional, yes, and she was
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very transparent yes from the beginning. But going back on it,
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like he kind of victimizes himself a little bit. But
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great movie, yes, great movie yeah, but going back into this,
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that's why I was like, oh, that's whyship relationship because
487
00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.720
they kind of I mean, it is very much a
488
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:21.880
they meet and they fall in love. It's a very
489
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:27.599
Disney feeling thing, which the guy himself whoever. That is
490
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:31.400
part of my complaint with this a little bit, is
491
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:36.920
it felt like a Disney Channel movie production. Sometimes.
492
00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:38.680
Oh, some of the cg I didn't.
493
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:42.799
Yeah, not that the Dwarves would ever fit in one
494
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:47.359
of those, yeah, occasionally, thank god. Occasionally some of the
495
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:51.720
green screen would be way more off than a previous scene.
496
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:54.839
And I get what they're going for. They're going for
497
00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:58.160
this kind of magical feeling place, but some of the
498
00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.799
stationary the camera spis like it wouldn't move because if not,
499
00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:03.839
they would walk off the volume, which is probably what
500
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.960
they like were working on. Yeah, and there's a moment
501
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:09.720
that it really like kind of drove me crazy. Was
502
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:13.519
because I was liking it whenever those Dwarves were like, hey,
503
00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:15.279
come hang out with those bandits and then they're like
504
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:17.680
out in front of their house and then they're singing
505
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:21.039
that song where it's like it's got something to do
506
00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:25.640
with you. But I like the song, but the actual
507
00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:28.519
background has this sort of like faded out kind of
508
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:31.680
golden hour look to it. That bothered the hell out
509
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:31.880
of me.
510
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.480
I wish it was more colorful too. Yeah, the movie
511
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:37.759
itself there was, so there are certain scenes where it
512
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:42.119
was very bright and vibrant. Yeah, but I think overall,
513
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:44.799
when you look at this movie, it's just they didn't
514
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:48.680
really utilize any type of color to showcase like the Kingdom,
515
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:50.880
like especially like just the surroundings. More so because that's
516
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.799
what I was looking at. Two that of course, you
517
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.759
know why having her bright yellow blue, she really.
518
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:58.880
Stood very traditional looking Disney thing.
519
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:01.680
And I wish the door themselves, like even with their clothing,
520
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:05.240
they stood out more like individually and they because sometimes
521
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:06.480
that you can see it where like they kind of
522
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:09.960
blend in. That's true, and so I wish they utilized
523
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:10.559
more that.
524
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:13.720
You don't feel like the movie to me felt I
525
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:15.160
have no idea what the budget was. I'm sure it
526
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:19.400
was high, felt very restricted. Sometimes I was kind of like,
527
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:22.079
I get that we're doing this, but you guys feel
528
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:27.039
kind of limited to your circumstances of maybe you built
529
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.319
some of the sets, like the castle's insides looked real
530
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:35.759
the interior, but then stuff like just the forest felt
531
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.359
partially built. But then the surroundings felt like all green
532
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:41.200
screen or whatever. And then the whole third act I
533
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:43.759
didn't expect, you know, gigantic fight scene or anything I
534
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:46.559
thought happen. Yeah, but it's felt set up for that,
535
00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:50.039
and then just kind of ended like I get that
536
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:51.960
it's supposed to be about peace. It's supposed to be
537
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.279
about like or at least it's trying to be about
538
00:26:55.279 --> 00:27:00.200
this sort of pacifism type of lesson, about reclaiming what
539
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:02.720
you want through words or whatever it means.
540
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:04.680
I hate words. You're like a fight.
541
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.279
Where's all the action in this movie? The action? Where
542
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.759
are the cars in snow white? Yeah?
543
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:17.680
Fast five and six? And she comes back to I
544
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:18.400
forgot about that.
545
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:22.079
That's a good movie. I like ten, but it just
546
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.359
felt weird, like and then sometimes it did feel like
547
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:29.279
they picked and choosed which ones they were like, we'll
548
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:31.119
make it look good here, we'll make it look good there.
549
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:33.720
It's probably not their intention. They're probably more like, hey,
550
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.440
we built this set, so this what's gonna look good.
551
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.200
I don't know if it was like a rush thing,
552
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.160
but I don't remember like they say, like if they
553
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.599
said anything where it's like they were rush or they
554
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:45.480
had to do reshoots or anything like that as well.
555
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.799
So, yeah, this movie has been in production for who
556
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.359
knows how long now, and I don't know.
557
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:53.519
That is insane.
558
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:54.799
Yeah, how long.
559
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:57.079
It's been since The Enemy when came out.
560
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.400
This they announced this what back a little after Rachel
561
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:04.279
Zegler was in West Side Story, which was twenty.
562
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:05.559
I was in college, so that was like twenty nineteen.
563
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:09.880
Yeah, that's ridiculous. And if it's been in production since then,
564
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:11.720
what were they working on exactly?
565
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.039
And this the live actually mal Wana?
566
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.799
Oh probably, which is just gonna be dude, I don't
567
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:19.359
even know. That's the one I want. That's the one
568
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:21.400
I want to see, like the least I think because it.
569
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.079
Well because it's a number one movie came on just
570
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:27.640
a while ago, and well it's gonna be the same repeat,
571
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:29.799
I feel like it will be. Yeah, why wouldn't it
572
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:30.039
be too?
573
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.640
Yeah, because Disney is scared of changing anything and any
574
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.319
of their stuff that they make for some reason.
575
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.720
Yeah, they're fraid to take chances, yeah, which is to
576
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:39.640
change world.
577
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:43.920
No, I heard people like that one. I liked the
578
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:49.240
trailer actually for Elio, the new Pixar thing. It was
579
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.119
in front of this. I don't remember the Alien where
580
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.400
he makes it. Oh yes, yeah, I'm excited for that movie.
581
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.519
It looks good. But let's get to something we haven't
582
00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:59.559
really we've only touched on a little bit the songs.
583
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.880
You think the songs are great. I think they were
584
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:06.759
all like the same in terms of like quality that
585
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:09.640
they were really good. Yeah. Probably my least favorite is
586
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:14.119
the one with really. But even then, every time like
587
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:15.680
a song happened, I was like, oh my god, I
588
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:16.359
actually like this.
589
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:19.079
I went into this hearing of the new songs were bad,
590
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:20.680
so I was expecting that.
591
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:22.920
I didn't know that. I just heard like the movie
592
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:24.880
itself overall was bad. I didn't think it was gonna
593
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:26.279
be a lot of music in this Now I didn't
594
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:28.119
think so either, which is why I think it's because
595
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:29.759
we saw move fast and I wish that there was
596
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:31.359
more music in that. Yeah, I think so.
597
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:34.119
But with this one, there was like a lot of singing.
598
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:36.440
There's a lot of singing, which we're the last two
599
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:38.839
people that will complain about that because we both love music,
600
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:42.640
good music, we really do. And I won't call this
601
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.240
a great musical it's not. But the first song I
602
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:46.119
didn't like very much.
603
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:48.000
I was like the Kingdom.
604
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.920
Yeah, it was Okay, it's very much I know how
605
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.279
musicals work. It's the introductory You're like, here's what's going
606
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:53.640
on in.
607
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.240
The world, but here's our part, this is what we do.
608
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.039
But at that point I did start this movie off
609
00:29:59.039 --> 00:29:59.599
on the wrong foot.
610
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:01.440
I was like, shoot, here we go.
611
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:02.960
Yeah, it was like it's gonna be one of these.
612
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.279
But then immediately once it gets into Rachel Zegler singing,
613
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.000
the reason why she's cast in stuff and musicals is
614
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:14.160
because she is great, yeah, singing, very captivating. Yeah, And
615
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.160
so once it gets to her stuff, like the song
616
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:17.799
that I said that I love, it's probably my favorite
617
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:22.480
one in this It is very very reminiscent of every
618
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.680
Disney like woman who belts out.
619
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:29.119
Her big like Disney princesses long where it's like what
620
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:31.039
their goals are in this.
621
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:34.480
Movie and her goal this song sounds almost like the
622
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.480
same as that girl whatever her girl. But it's like
623
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:41.039
it sounds the same as the Molana one. It's like,
624
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.839
I wish I could be the father's perfect daughter. And
625
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:45.680
then it's like this one sounds almost the same.
626
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:47.519
But then it could say, who doesn't want to be
627
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:49.079
the father's perfect daughter?
628
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:55.319
Right? That's true, and then she's like, what is she
629
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.119
She's waiting on a wish, right, that's this one.
630
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:57.559
Yeah.
631
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.119
Sometimes I hear a song that puts me straight back
632
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.519
into being in the Disney Store and then they're like
633
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.640
projecting it. Oh, and then I'm like taken straight back there.
634
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.720
I see the Mickey Mouse backpack hanging off like.
635
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.680
That's like eighty dollars. Mom, Can I guess.
636
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:15.079
Why are we in the Disney Store in the first place?
637
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.839
And everything's ridiculously priced? And then you remember the Disney
638
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:20.559
Channel whenever they used to show the behind the scenes
639
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:22.000
of like Parrots of the Caribbean and stuff.
640
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.559
Dude, you don't want to keep seeing with Zach and Cody.
641
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.000
Oh, it is the animals thing.
642
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:30.160
No, animals, I haven't seen that in a minute. No,
643
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.319
the one where I guess, like, look at Zach showing
644
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:34.160
off his riz.
645
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:35.000
Oh yeah.
646
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:36.920
Yeah. It's like they just do a clip of Zach
647
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.640
just rising up a girl something and then he's like
648
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.960
he does a scene and then it cuts to him
649
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.359
just dancing. Yeah, and it's really funny.
650
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:47.839
I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. I love
651
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.759
Sweet Life and Sweet Left on Deck. Yes, but I
652
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.079
liked the Galagado song. That's going to lead into some
653
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:57.640
other issue I have with this movie. For all the
654
00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.519
good songs, for all the I say that there's a
655
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.960
bunch of varying levels of talent here. There's no choreography
656
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:06.599
in this movie.
657
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.000
Yeah, I didn't know that until you pointed out. I
658
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.359
was like, huh, yeah, there wasn't that much.
659
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:13.720
It was starting to drive me crazy because I felt
660
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.880
like it was a huge missed opportunity for that moment
661
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.079
where she's giving her big like life Isn't fair song
662
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:21.759
and then she's talking to the guy. The nights just
663
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:26.720
stand there. They don't do anything, they don't move, and
664
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.000
I found it really distracting because she's just like shaking
665
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.839
her head and she can't move. So I felt it
666
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:33.200
was just one of those things where I was like
667
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:35.920
at that point and from then on, I just kept
668
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:39.920
looking and I kept thinking, no one's moving. Yeah, is
669
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:42.640
it because they filmed this, like I said, on the volume,
670
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.200
with a green screen in the background, and you're like, oh, shoot,
671
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.759
if we move at all, we're gonna have to redo everything.
672
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:53.119
And so I guess if anything seemed more like a play, yeah,
673
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:54.640
more so than a musical it.
674
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:56.559
Just felt like, do you felt like some parts of
675
00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:00.079
it felt a little too static for me? Because if
676
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.920
you're pointing out, yes, because I was just kind of like,
677
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:07.240
there needs to be an energy here that's not quite here.
678
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:09.880
I feel like if there was a genuine yeah, I.
679
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.599
Think I just felt distracted by the actual music, thinking
680
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.759
that I wouldn't I wouldn't really notice, and so I
681
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:18.799
think that's what it is too with like she didn't
682
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.319
really showcase that too.
683
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:23.680
I think what didn't help for me is I recently
684
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:26.319
had been watching a bunch of high school musical clips,
685
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:31.680
and Kenny Ortega is very, very good at choreography. There's
686
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:35.960
that part where Troy Bolton's like the basketballs are like
687
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:39.279
like dropping around him, the hallways moving, and he's like
688
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:44.400
singing like this, and he's giving like these insane dance moves. Again,
689
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:48.400
they're really good, like genuine. I say that this felt
690
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:51.799
like Disney Channel original movies sometimes, but then that that's
691
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.599
a compliment to those because of how yeah, how much.
692
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.359
Okay, I love high school musical too.
693
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.759
I really like the second one. I don't remember the first,
694
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:05.319
and I actually have not seen the third, but I
695
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.039
need to watch three. Yeah, and.
696
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:10.679
So it was the only one that was released in theaters.
697
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:14.719
I know that that. Guys, if you're going to comment something,
698
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:19.480
we probably know it, dude, we know.
699
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:27.320
Oh. Anyway, any like, I'm going to get into one
700
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:32.760
particular other negative here. I feel it's just circling back
701
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:37.320
into the not just the CGI, but some of the
702
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.920
production stuff. I just feel all over the place about it.
703
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.079
I think because there will be moments where I'm like,
704
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:45.440
some of it looks cheap, and then some of it
705
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.800
looks like expensive, like the diamonds props they use. I thought,
706
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:51.760
like kind of cartoony on purpose, But it's.
707
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.079
Just the coloring too. Yeah, I think it just looked
708
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:54.639
so fake.
709
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.000
I think this movie might have a color grading problem,
710
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:03.599
which Disney's tip known for. Right now. It's funny because
711
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.360
you just people are like, everything's gray, everything's brown. This
712
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:10.480
doesn't have that. This has a sometimes it's super saturated
713
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:13.440
in color and then sometimes not at all. It just
714
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:17.840
like again, it was about pick and Chow situation where
715
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.440
I'm like, sometimes the things can be dark. I love
716
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.760
that they recreate the moment where it's scary in the
717
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:26.320
original with the deer walking out with like the demon eyes,
718
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.000
with the scary tree. I like that they kept all
719
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.719
that stuff, but I wish that there were more of it.
720
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.119
I would. I mean, I think that there's just a
721
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.960
bunch of variation here, But do you have any particular
722
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:41.760
like negative negative things.
723
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.679
Now besides the has everything with the villain? I didn't
724
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.000
really Yeah, that was my main thing from it.
725
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.679
I think I think this movie, for all the stuff
726
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.320
it added, could have actually gone into depth with what
727
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:55.400
it added, more.
728
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:57.480
Like why are we wish it got we spent more
729
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with the bandits or like they were just thrown in there,
730
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introduced themselves, and then par much that was it.
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They were not in any bandit stuff. Showing up in
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the forest made me realize just how much of my
733
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:13.159
knowledge of snow White is informed by Shrek, because I
734
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:16.199
was like, I think I associate that a lot way
735
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more with that because I was waiting for the song
736
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where she does the h but I was like, oh,
737
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:25.920
that's from Shrek three, isn't it? Or Shrek for the
738
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.039
first one, whichever one it is. I'm pretty sure they
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00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:29.920
do it in that it was the first one. It
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00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.039
was the first one, But no they repeat it, don't
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they remember in the third whenever the breaking flick you
742
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:39.800
whenever they break out of like the prison, and you're
743
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.599
groping whenever they break out of the prison. And the
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third one they do it again. So I know that
745
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:54.119
I'm right, but we know. But some of the can
746
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:55.000
I complain about this?
747
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I guess I can.
748
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.280
No. No, that movie is not that good though, But
749
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I'm like, what in structor being not that good?
750
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Yeah?
751
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.920
I agree with you, but the lines are just sometimes
752
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I'm like, I get that, I'm not going to use
753
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.360
the excuse it's for kids. Why are you like saying that.
754
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.039
Though I'm an adult, I'm gonna watch this kids.
755
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:16.440
I think that some of the lines should have been
756
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:18.800
given more thought or something. They kind of revert back
757
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:23.480
to the basic Disney dialogue sometimes where it'll be like
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00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:26.039
I'm the Prince and I'm charming and I hate everything
759
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.679
around me o haha, and then later on the character
760
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.840
development is like, maybe life's not so bad.
761
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:36.280
I think they were just worried. They probably didn't realize
762
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how many people loved Snow White.
763
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Which I didn't realize I realized that either.
764
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And so them just getting ready to prepare this movie,
765
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and then people putting their opinions out there, like Okay,
766
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:49.039
what if we make it a little bit of both,
767
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.199
but mostly the fact that it was kind of catered
768
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.320
to the original movie as well. But it kind of
769
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:58.159
shows that if you guys seen in the movie, it's
770
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:02.800
very outdated too. Yeah, and it's very simple yet effective.
771
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:06.280
But in terms of live action, because something that's animated
772
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and it's cut short compared to a live action that's longer,
773
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:11.639
it says two different things.
774
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:14.679
When this they add a whole subplot the whole like,
775
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I know that if anybody's gonna comment this, the whole
776
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.239
thing about she's not gonna get saved by a prince
777
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.039
in this one. She does. Yeah, but I think what
778
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.599
they meant and this just went on for years and
779
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.360
then they just never clarified it for some reason. What
780
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:33.800
they meant is that's not how the movie ends. That's
781
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.159
not like the whole point. It is basically a thing
782
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.519
that happens. They did not take it out that never happens,
783
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.159
if like you, if you're thinking like, oh, they replaced
784
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.719
it with the whole like she's her own strong independent woman.
785
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.239
She's got that going on too though, yes, where she's
786
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:51.880
like leading the rebellion, which admittedly that I was interested
787
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.599
in and they didn't do enough with it. I felt, Yeah,
788
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:58.039
but don't like they're still faithful to that whole thing
789
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.519
that happens. They still fall in love there canstry still
790
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:03.360
works with each other because of mark Web. Yeah, because
791
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:06.519
of mark Web more than likely. But then they add
792
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.679
all that other stuff that the third act is different
793
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.880
because that movie just ends right there. Yeah, and it
794
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:13.280
made me realize I have no right if they ever
795
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.360
defeat the Evil Queen at all, and that or not
796
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:17.559
she dies?
797
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Does she remember? In the end she goes back to
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the mirror.
799
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.519
Oh, She's like, who's the fairest of them?
800
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Then it's like not you you and she's like.
801
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.440
That, how did the mirror work in this movie? I
802
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:35.239
didn't mind that. I actually kind of liked that, but
803
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.599
they did not explain that it kills her and then
804
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.280
absorbs her. I was like, you know what.
805
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:43.559
That's that's supposed to be, Like what's the thing from Superman? Oh?
806
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:45.480
I know exactly what's talking about, like where you just
807
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:46.440
throw them in there.
808
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.599
Also, again I was waiting for the magic mirror to
809
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:51.039
talk like the Shrek wor too.
810
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:52.119
That's what I thought as well.
811
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.639
It was like, who's the fairest of them all, like
812
00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:00.960
the American Idol number one. Yeah, that's just my opinion,
813
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:05.840
but honestly, you have more to say. No, no, no,
814
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:07.840
I don't. Princess Problems is a great song.
815
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:10.840
No, I still like hi ho in this one, I
816
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:11.320
really do.
817
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.440
I liked the Princess Problem song the most, and I
818
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.679
liked that early one that's just the big Princess.
819
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.960
I do like that one too, probably my second favorite.
820
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.719
Yeah, and as much as I made fun of it,
821
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I also liked the one where they're like, we love
822
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:28.760
each other? Or do we that song, the one where
823
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.320
they're dancing, Oh, that one's cool.
824
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:32.239
I like that one.
825
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:34.679
Yeah, that was just like, take your kids to see
826
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.559
this and they're going to sing it forever. And then
827
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:41.039
I'm positive that that song early on while I'm waiting,
828
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:44.440
Oh yeah, did you not know how to super fun?
829
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No?
830
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:45.880
You don't know how to wink?
831
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:46.119
Right?
832
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:58.280
Yeah, dude, they're trying. But honestly, it's not that bad,
833
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:02.079
which I don't know if that's like to be. That's
834
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:04.199
not the most positive thing to say in the world.
835
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.400
Yeah, it's not bad, but it's not that bad. It's like,
836
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.320
I know, I hate to say this too, but I
837
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.039
don't think it's also a rush to go see this
838
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:12.639
in theaters.
839
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:13.719
No, I don't think you should.
840
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.559
I can see why people will go watch this at home.
841
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:19.639
I never ever say we complain about this that people
842
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.519
are like, wait for streaming, but this is obviously going
843
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.920
to be on Disney Plus and like the next two weeks. Yeah,
844
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:27.480
because people the way they digitally really ship. That's a
845
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.440
whole other conversation that to be had that I'm going
846
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:33.079
to complain about at some point. Again, I'm sure, but
847
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:39.119
I think if you go out to see it and
848
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:41.440
you wanted to see it, I don't see it being
849
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:43.000
a waste of your time.
850
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.280
Yes, we're not going to be on Tuesday, guys.
851
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:48.079
Yeah, you want to take someone out on a date
852
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:49.360
to see it because they want to see it.
853
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:54.239
Go ahead that like I'm gonna go to the bathroom
854
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:58.000
every single comes on screen. That's weird.
855
00:41:58.440 --> 00:41:59.599
You're like, I gotta pay a game.
856
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.079
It's you do it whenever she because it shows up
857
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:03.480
on screen.
858
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:06.719
Yeah. No, it's kind of funny because this is a
859
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:08.840
movie I didn't mind watching. I liked it just enough.
860
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.519
I don't feel like seeing it again, though, I'm not
861
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.599
gonna watch it again. Overall, what's your score?
862
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.840
Probably three and a half.
863
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:21.159
Dude, I almost gave it that.
864
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.960
I just gave it a three, I would say, I
865
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:25.400
was saying three. I was like, no, I give three
866
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:25.760
and a half.
867
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:26.559
Three and a half.
868
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.639
It's because the music. I like the music. Yeah, anything,
869
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.159
I would just listen to the sound track again.
870
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.639
And that's exactly what I did. Yeah, I was better say.
871
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:36.119
I was like, Okay, give me a definitive score because
872
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:38.000
I do got to write something down right.
873
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:41.639
Three and a half half.
874
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.760
That looks good, tea, but yeah, three out of five
875
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:48.679
for me and three and a half out of five
876
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:50.320
for him. Yes, it was all right.
877
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:55.679
That's about it wasn't all left exactly anyway. What's left
878
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:58.800
to say is what's up next? Death of a Unicorn?
879
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.760
Yeah, which I was looking forward to and I still
880
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.400
am expectation. That's former own opinion. Yes, I like that
881
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.880
trailer a lot, is what I say. And I love
882
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:09.360
the cast.
883
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:10.599
Yeah, seems great.
884
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:14.280
Maybe we'll love it. That does happen or somewhere between,
885
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:16.760
or be somewhere between on it. That also happens sometimes
886
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:19.079
like I just did. But what are they gonna do?
887
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:21.519
They're gonna like comment and subscribe, please do.
888
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:26.159
And also we're on TikTok now we're at somewhere between
889
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:32.440
on there and then somewhere between these doors and Instagram.
890
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:33.559
No sexy does that?
891
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:36.559
A moody give me a movie?
892
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:43.159
Oh but money and really groping, Gropy and sexy would
893
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:44.639
get along? Do that?
894
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:52.440
No grop think you of every small situations like no
895
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:53.880
one would, no one would?
896
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.679
All right, whatever, and Grumpy is like, we're gonna kick
897
00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:02.599
these guys. Thank you guys so much for listening and watching.
898
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.599
What did you think of snow White? That's all it's called.
899
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.639
Thank you again for listening and watching. We will see
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00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:10.239
you next time.