Sasquatch Experience Classics: BJ Hollars and Craig Woolheater (10.5.2008)

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And folks will live the Sasquatch Experience Radio show is
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your folks, Sean with your hosts Sean Parker and James Baker.
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Melissa Hovey off tonight, and we've got some great guests tonight.
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Wind up for bj Hollows, who's a writer from Alabama
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who joined us last weekend. This James and I's guest
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at the two thousand and eighties Coast Bickfoot Conference. And
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Craig Willheater from Texas. He's the chairman of the Texas
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Bigfoot Research Conservancy. He'll be having his own conference later
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on in the month. So, folks, there's a little bit
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of news items here. Fifty years ago today. Fifty years
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ago today, the term bigfoot was coined the newspaper. That
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newspaper reported the Jerry Crewe foot track finds in The
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Humble Times October fifth, nineteen fifty eight. Andrew Genzoli, while
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we pronounce his name, and I don't care at the moment,
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but only knows it's an important day. But the tracks
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do not matter. Those made by Ray Wallace. Ray Wallace,
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of course, the big hoaster, who I like to take
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credit for those footprints, and they do not match up
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so kind of an important piece of Bigfoot history. James,
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you let us my good friend.
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You are where I am. I've felt it was an
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interesting experience driving there, driving back from the cool things
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that he did. I'll chance to get to a conference
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to at least just to get to some of the
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PPS functions. Take the time.
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It was a hell of a good time had by all.
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There over five hundred and sixty people in attendance on
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the final talies. According to Eric Haltman, of course, the
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conference chairman, it was a good time. I had a blast,
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spent a lot of time with Craig Wildheater and Stan
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Goodon and Dj Hollis. Got some birthdays to point out
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quick today, James. Our good friend John cart Wright's birthday
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was yesterday. He turned one hundred and eighty. Wow, I
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guess we had a few weeks ago. Linda Quayle Succi,
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her birthday is coming up in the next few days,
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So just like to wish them a very happy birthday
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and thank you for being listeners of the show and
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supporters of the last last year, going on two years
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at the end of the month, James, two years we've
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been on the air. It's kind of amazing, isn't it.
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Yeah, one hundred and eighty years old.
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He's well probsolved one hundred and eighty years old with preservatives.
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Craig Wolfe was in the chat room. Got a nice
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little turn out here. Show is starting tonight at ten
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pm Eastern. A little light but well worth it. So, James,
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aren't you start with the bake shopper. When we went
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along to our guests, I know Dog Keating is going
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to be calling in briefly for an announcement regarding an
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event he has coming up this week as a James,
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go ahead, take it away.
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Okay, well, hey, you know we had this nice trap.
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The one thing I learned during the Salt trap was
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if you're going to use the GPS, make sure you
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have a map back go. GPS is a phenomenal they'll
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tell you where you are, they'll tell you where you're going.
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But there are occasions, you know, the GPS show a
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criple line that doesn't seem to go anywhere, and then
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you teup to six level purple lines where a twenty
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minute ride becomes two hours. Yet we found that was
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and then we also found this on the ray to
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and from the conference was even if you do your
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Google maps print out the actual version of the map
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that shows you your side streets and stuff like that,
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because when you get lost and you don't know quite
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where you are, turning out on end does not really
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do crap for you. You know, you know, it turned
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a nice trip into you know, an extra forty five
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minutes because we weren't quite sure where we were. And
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I'll tell you it wasn't is. There was a point
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where I was gonna push forker out a car. Yeah,
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supplyed when.
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You go somewhere.
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Oh, although it was a great trip, And if you
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ever have a chance to go any of these things,
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please do. But I mean, I think my my thing
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of the day is if you do planning to go
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any wall one, make sure you know where you're going,
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someone knows where you're going, and then you bring the
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map or you know, and that will help you out.
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But bring a visual map, because every one of those
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map quests has to get us to and from the conference.
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And as James will tell you, me, being the genius
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I am, I didn't punt out the physical map and
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we ended up adding a lot of time onto our trip.
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Yeah, He's like, uh, yeah, I know that we turn
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right on this way, said, you have a lot of
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the cross tacks that were being punt out the map
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just to turn loft here. I'm like, well we missed
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that ride.
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Yeah that it was a good time anyhow.
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Yeah. And the thing is the GPS, this phenomenal idea.
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But the thing that was like even we learned from
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we learned that night were sometimes the GPS doesn't do
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what it's supposed to.
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Speaking of GPS, I have Craig will Heater and b J.
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Hollis in along with us tonight. How are you guys doing?
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Say good, Hey, I'm doing fine.
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Kara about the GPS problems that we were going on
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a smooth ride and then all of a sudden everything
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went purple. Well, you know, the GPS, it doesn't it uh,
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it doesn't necessarily tell you the way.
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That you want to go. It tells you the way
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that it wants to go. And I think that what
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our problem was was that why it was showing us,
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uh you know, rotting us back. It was actually showing
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us what what it wanted to do, but it wasn't
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what we wanted to do. And so when we see
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all that purple, it just kind of threw us off. Uh.
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My my favorite line is that whole time was when
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uh James said, no wonder we can't find big, but
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we can't even find a conference, which was.
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Just hilarious to me.
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We did fantastic. There are a lot of lights that weekend, BJ,
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but I'm sure you'd like to forget about most of them.
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Do there?
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I got them all down on paper. Let me tell
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you that I'm there.
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But it was. It was quite a bit that was
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supposed to be off the record.
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A lot of off the record we created.
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I think pretty much was off the record, wasn't it.
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Yeah, Craig, I think the one you missed it was
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we had gotten up earlier in the morning to get
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ready for the conference, and we were down at breakfast
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and I said, damn it. I said, we here's a family.
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We sleep as a family. And I think I said
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we we shower as a family.
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Make your own waffles, as that the best thing for
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the hotel, make your own waffle, like you know what,
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We're so goddamn lady, We're just gonna give you some
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syrup and some butter and oat.
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Now, the worst part was the Marlborough lady. Oh, my god,
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thank you, super Man. Where's the milk? Superman? Thank you?
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Thank you awful And I think she actually the funniest
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part about this is she I think she had flipped
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in the shower at her hotel room and she fell
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and actually broke or fractured her arm on the soap
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dish or something.
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All over.
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She was obviously ellebriated, but it was funny. Nonetheless, h
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thank you Superman.
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You know, I read that a lot, usually not that
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of a drone of the tongue. You know, before we
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digressed into a tirade.
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Of drunken debauchery, we do have a conference to discuss,
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and everybody, we all started fighting at the meat and
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greet dinner, and that was a good time. We had
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dinner with Craig and Stan Gordon and Kelly Beverly. But
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I moved ahead. I moved ahead, and I was just
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gonna let Cred all everybody got her side trip that
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Friday before really kicking off the conference.
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Wend fall came in the morning when Lea seven a
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full and spoiled with a special package that's worked out
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really well. My little package or that was not any
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illegal pharmaceuticals. It was a nice statue that we were
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taking to a lady who had her stolen from her
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from her store, and Craig was nice enough to uh
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get her a replacement statue. And we begin our journey
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from Williamsport, Pennsylvania, and Craig from Texas to come here
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to a little wicked ink town of around a Polo,
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Pennsylvania and bring a little happiness to make to miss
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Nikki Hosack's life.
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That's right, little did she with sandwiches and beer?
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That's right, sand which is did she?
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Little? Did she know? The happiness us.
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Little town.
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I'll tell you, Nikky six back is Ward's the town
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they're so much is phenomenal. Those that Mike's headed lemonade
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year and you can sint to have beverage drives go
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ready for you, and I'll tell you that those are
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the better turkey sandwiches I have had.
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You.
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You feel d though we did break her sign because
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we broker exceeded the weight limit.
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They're gonna burn in hell, James, w at least.
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I'll get to talk to you.
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They're lighting the fire together. Jack asked, all right, before
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we're go any further, we've got don keating on the line.
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Don Keating has something you don't tell everybody about an
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event next weekend who.
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Bring the honor of Shawn. I appreciate it.
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I just want to make a note of the fact
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that with coming Saturday at Salt Fork State Park Lodge,
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we're going to have a special guest speak around. That
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will be mister Eric Allman, who just hosted the East
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Coast Bigfoot Conference. Eric's going to be attendance and he's
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going to be sharing many, many different slides on our
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punt presentation. He's going to talk about how the conference land.
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We're going to talk about several recent saturdays in southeastern
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Ohio and again it will be just coming Saturday at
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eight pm Saltfork State Park Lodge, and hopefully.
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Many of you will be able to make it cool.
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I hope so, Don, and thank you for calling with
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that and you folks, it's really important that you get
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to these meet and greets. Wasn't a great opportunity to
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network with fellow researchers and you know, find out what
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everybody's doing. And Don, thank you for putting on these
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uh these uh many conferences, as I like to call them,
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as often as you do. They're a really great resource
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and I hope to make it out to a few
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of them.
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Hey, don are you still online? Is there a website
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or something they can go to to get the information,
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a phone number or somebody to contact and get them mister?
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Yeah, they can go to www, dot A, I C
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dot net okay, and it's always under a recent under
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recent news or upcoming events. It's always in one of
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those sections. So it's a it's a good idea and
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I hope everybody, uh you know that can can make
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it after that at Softwork State Park next weekend.
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And if you have pictures of all travel travelers to
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make you six bat together, Crypto Mum, Crypto mumber dot com,
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or you can check my MySpace gyms be wild. We
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have a lot of good pictures from the conference and
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also from that trap to turn soft God's where it belongs.
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Yeah, definitely check out a picture, folks, And I posted
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them to go on the blogs that I've got a
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lot of pictures on MySpace dot com slash Sean Falker.
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James has this on MySpace dot com slash James by
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Wild and of course they're always available on cryptomundo dot
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com and look for the uh I believe it's the
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post called Nicky's Quick six. Thanks cry Cryptomundo, Thanks James
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for you started a bug.
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Thing there who lived an the fun time and every
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you can also check the local paper. And then they
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had a little one on that the hole stituation, and
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maybe you know, Craig, you'd like to tell a little
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better the whole story behind it. I mean both.
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Well, what happened was is with Nicky Ship in the
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p store, I think in January, and her husband had
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one of the design Toscano Fast West Garden statues and
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he'd give it to his kind of a mascot, and
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I guess everybody liked the statue and would come up
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and get their picture made with it and then sat.
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And then back in June, uh, some guys stole it
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and they you know, he got picked up by local media.
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And so we had posted it at Cryptomindo and they
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had contacted us, and so we'd emailed back and forth,
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and I told him that Crypto Mendo would replace the
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statue for him if it never showed back up, and
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and so it never did show back up. And at
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at the point if I was getting ready to come
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up to uh, Pennsylvania for the conference. Since their store
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was only I think about thirty five miles or so
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contacted Designed Tuscano and asked them if they would donate one.
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mee because I didn't want to have to carry that
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thing on the on the airplane. And so I had
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him had him shitt it to Sean since h he
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was staying at a hotel not far from mine, and
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and UH it was delivered to him and and he
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brought it up with him and then we hooked up
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on Friday and drove up before the dinner and UH
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and the rest is history.
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was wonderful. So it was a good time. I had
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a blast hanging out with Craig and uh BJ, BJ
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tell us some of your impressions you got from the
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first day, and so just keep in mind that BJ
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had no idea what he was getting into. Uh. We
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had met just briefly over a phone review and I
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invited him to be my guest up here at the conference,
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and I think we.
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DJ. What do you think it was?
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thank you guys so.
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Much for.
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Wep into no regrets whatsoever. You guys have took me
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on one hundred percent and through me into every situation
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you could And I think I saw just about everything
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I possibly could ask for, so any inditional impressions, It
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was just it was great and it was so wonderful
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to see it's just trying to turn out and so
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many serious people who were taking the taking the big
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Foot community by storm and making up a lot of
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or finding a lot of good flats and information for
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layman like me is kind of new to the community.
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games you've been on it for years and kind of
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picking their brains. You know, do you think the conference
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achieve its goal and keeping it simple for you know,
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as you said, even the way person who didn't have
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a clue what Bigfoot was, or you know, even to
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the extent of Bigfoot being known. You know, just speaking
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for myself, I would say certainly, you know, I walked
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in just knowing, you know, having watched a couple of
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documentaries year and then I always having an interest. But
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when I sat down fourth and have my little program,
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and that was enough to guide me through most of
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the most of the lectures. Took a lot of notes
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and the pictures are really helpful, and everyone ever had
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their own little take on things, you know, so whether
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there was a tree twist or most scientific roles of
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tumbling caster that sort of thing, and they there was
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certainly something forever. It was quite the smortgage board of
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bigfoot if he asked me, so I got it online,
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that's for sure.
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The conference on it R James.
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We thank you for coming along this because five pleass
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you know, it's always nice to have a fresh perspective
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all what's going on. And I'll tell you that one
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thing I did deals about the conference was everybody was kind.
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Everybody was professional about it. You know, there wasn't any
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you know, people laughing or people you know, hey, it's
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this is just you know, the people that came to
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the conferences actually wanted to learn something. And I think
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even if they didn't believe that, you know, big footer
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is what we believe it is. They took something. They're
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late from the conference. It's the only important thing, right.
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I think he has the right of me. When I
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got back to you here, the first thing everyone wanted
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to know in Alabama, well, did you see bee fruit
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is real? And you know, I just told him that
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it was just it was so it was so welcome
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to see a community if people are so committed, not
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that may bee proving or part too proving or disproving.
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You know that you guys are open to everything, just
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kind of getting to the bottom of it. So you know,
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how to keep explaining they're not just people who are
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die hard no matter what. He's right there in front
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of me. You know, there's there's people who are are
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taking this really seriously. And so I think the fresh
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perspective and I think people even outside the community said
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and understand kind of what you guys do, which is
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kind of my goal thing writing about it.
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So what we what we're gonna do here for the
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next probably thirty minutes to actually go through the conference program,
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uh and get everyone, you know, if anyone has an opinion,
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get you know, an depending on the speakers. The first
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peak we had, of course was Eric Alton and Eric
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getting over away of our bigfoot studies in Pennsylvania and
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some recent investigations conducted by the PBS. And I thought
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it was a very good presentation.
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James, Yeah, I you know what, Eric did a phenomenal
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job of the conference. If anybody should stand up, you
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know that did the most work on that, that would
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be Eric.
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Eric.
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Eric probably didn't sleep that whole weekend, yet he was
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one hundred percent you know, with it and understand what
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was going on. And he was he was, you know,
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telling stories and hey, keeping an eye on this and
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keeping an eye on that. Because you could tell that
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he put a lot of work into it and it
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was something that he did to do, not because it
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was something that you know, it was a label a
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love almost you know, but that yeah, his first when
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he explained some exciting and a lot of the PBS
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was formed and stuff like that. I think it really
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it really gave me an idea of why we have
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conferences be suck. Yeah, I agree completely. And what I
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really liked about Almonds presentation, you took us all the
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way back to you know, the Native American tribes of Pennsylvania,
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Sufia and Lina. Again, I took us Honora from eighteen
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thirty eight, the first first documented starting up till you
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know the two hundred and fifty setings that the TVs
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has had in the last ten years. So I took
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quite a stain and really simplified it and broke it down.
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Has the really interesting pictures of a year of finding
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a live of a tree, which I really found interesting
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and give me to be a good perspective.
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Of what what kind of things that might be going
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on in Pennsylvania. So really enjoyable. One of my favorites
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probably anything you like.
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To a correct well, you know, I'm all about the
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after party conferences are you know, great places to the
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network and meet people.
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But you know, on the side, like the freaking town
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of Peanut butter Pie. You did have a pound to
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pie that was huge, that was.
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At the plate, waved like a tom Jamers dropped it
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when she gave it to me.
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Yet you ate at all?
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I didn't think that was gonna but I made room
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before We're going from the Drumman and we have a
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caller from the eight one seven area for every one
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seven drum they are a Sasquart experience. Sean Ford James Baker,
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B J. Hollows and Craig wools Heater car. Wow, that
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had been funny if we could have understood it. Ass
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he's square, yellon And I tell you, I wonder who
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that is?
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Eight one seven is my area? Could?
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I don't know. Hopefully they had a bad connection or
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bad case.
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And Jazz I was the post the number in the
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chat room, so we can all we can all call
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him back later. You know.
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It's a funny story. Last Sharing Anniversary, Shadow was a
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guy from Michigan kept calling in and I told him
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if he didn't stop, I was going to read his
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number over the air, and he didn't believe me. And
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I read his number of the air, and I haven't
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heard anything from him since.
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or something. His mom smacked him.
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Up on the head. Uh, yeah, something else, something else?
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And then no, that was not one of the chatters
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in the room, asks if that was apple crab Dick. No,
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that's not the same to apple crab Dick. But uh,
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I have a feeling he'll be calling in sometime in
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the near future. I got an email from him.
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Says that threatened to run him over with a newspaper truck.
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Yeah, James, that lady survived, run it cow.
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Survived. That's another story.
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That's the story he could tell other people. I'll tell
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you that I've had an interesting life to be of
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in different places.
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Some went along.
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Yellow mean dream.
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So our next. The next presenter at the conference was
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one of my favorite was a Bob Chance from Maryland.
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Bob was a dynamic speaker. I really felt he captivated
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the audience and and you know, spoke about uh, you know,
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a little on his book Green by Chance, and he
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was James.
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Bob didn't even need a microphone. He had the whole
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room just enticed on what he said. He moved around
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the room. You know a lot of things he made sense.
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He said, you saw if you expect that you're gonna
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see big flat by walking down the woods in three hours,
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you're confused, go home, have the cookie, get all with
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your life. He said. Youn't expect to see wilderness creatures.
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Expect to be there a couple of days, he says,
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because at first, anything that you're gonna see needs to
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be acclimated that you exist and that you're not a threat.
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He says, you know, you don't. You don't You don't
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see You're not going to be out there for a
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couple of hours and see everything unless it's a chance encounter.
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He said, how to talk to how you could tell
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the difference between somebody who's just you know, kind of
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throwing smoke, or somebody might actually have seen something. And honestly,
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the man, the man even in the beginning, he said, Love,
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you know, I've had some trouble last month, the last
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couple of months, he says, but at the end of
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the day, I've done the best I can do, you know,
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help just cause.
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Be doing anything you like that?
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Yeah, sure, yeah, I really like the real look listening
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about I think you're right, Jens, he really done. How
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to around about the microphone is kind of you could tell.
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You could tell he was a former science teacher. You know,
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he had no problem getting up there and chatting the
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crowd of something. I really liked that.
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one point, and he just kept saying, you young people
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need to get exposed to dirt and water and you know,
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kind of getting them back out there into actually hunting
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in the woods, you know, seeing what might be out there,
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and he really stresses scientific aspect of it too. He
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kept saying, you know, do not tell them to conclusions.
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People aren't ask you why aren't there any bodies. He
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gave three theories of perhaps why there aren't anybodies. He
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really kept it scientific throughout and kind of stress that
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that's the way to to give more credibility in the
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field is to keep it on those terms. And he
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called it the big foot, the ultimate endangered species of
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something I hadn't heard before, but I thought it was
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definitely worth taking note of.
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That was interesting to me. I know, you were selling
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a few copies of his book Green by Chance, and
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if you can get that on Amazon dot com or
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any other fine book dealing establishment. Next guest speaker we
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had on the list was Diane Stockett, and Diane's presentation
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was interesting. I believe this was her first presentation, and
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she gave when don keating so brazen Lee asked her
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about skunk apes and Florida, because if you know Diane,
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she'll tell you, you know, very matter of fact that
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there was no skunky and she had a very interesting presentation.
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James I know you were pretty interested into her presentation.
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down a lot of the things. Was she chow you
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a track and a lot of it was hard to
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do a track. And you know she she mentioned that
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if it has bread plows, it's not a fat squatch.
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If it's got claws, it's probably a bear. But she
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showed you different tracks and said, look, this is what
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the track would look like for this animal to swip
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the track. Why is the track elongated yet it's still
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a bear and alligator. It's because in the sin that
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she was using it, when you pressed your foot across
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it actually made it look like a longer track, but
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there actually was one track. The fact wasn't that she
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was actually one of the most interesting speakers. But I
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you know, before I had chilled a fall along because
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I was next to Bob Chance and Snakes and they
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kept trying to get it out. I mean, I had
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talked to her on the meat free afterwards, and I
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had talked to her when we went to the tour,
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and she actually stated, you know, some of the theories
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I had had about some people had seen misplace dates
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or some people mistake as a bear. She actually shared
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many sightings of how that is completely possible, So I
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mean she was a really informative woman. I got to
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date both can make it up from Florida and they
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worked as a team. Who one came from the audience,
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you know.
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Yeah, it was a very good medization. I totally enjoyed it.
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And I also enjoyed being out into the woods with
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Donna Corse, who has a unique ability to traverse any
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terrain in her bare feet, which was kind of interesting,
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but it was. It was a good tour.
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I really enjoyed it.
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If anyone interested in any video on the tour, James
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and I posted a couple on our conference brond if
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He's Coast Bigfoot at blogspot dot com. It was a
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little bitty we put together there and preparation and kind
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of like a journal of our experience at the conference,
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and it was the little blog site. You can go
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on there and check out the three videos that we posted.
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All saw the video on my midspace and I'll tell
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it that a couple more out as time goes on.
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My big issue right now is I've got a new
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program that I'm working with and I'm still trying to
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get the ins and out of it. That's I'm addicted
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to store.
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He is.
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He created a bigfoot on spore, folks, to tell you
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how much free time James Baker has, ladies. His social
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calendar is open. We have a couple of callers here,
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one from the six sixth two area. Could I know?
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This is Henry May Henry on the air.
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Hey, Hey, they Hey James Sean. I it was my
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first opportunity to talk to you all since the conference,
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and I'm in enjoying seeing all the different photos on
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the different MySpace pages and the and the videos and
534
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.839
things like that of the tour. Very cool stuff.
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I know.
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Craig's conference is coming up in a couple of weeks.
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I would make it if I could, Craig, but my
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youngest niece has a birthday the same day, so and
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00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:22.799
she wants me to attend her birthday party, so my
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family priorities come first.
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Well, then really, we'll just go ahead and postpone the conference,
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so you make it, then we'll put it back.
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To see No, don't do that on my account.
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We'll howdly. Looking at the way merchandise sold at the
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East Coast conference, you know, we could have really used
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your sales support there.
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Yeah, I wish I could have made it there. You know,
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maybe I'll make it in No. Ten because I know
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Eric's taking a year off.
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Yeah, so you know you've got to get out there
551
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.920
and do your financial support as the Big Foo shows
552
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:59.599
you love and folks, if you're interested, we are selling
553
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CDs the best of the Sasquatch Experience radio show available
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for her us by emailing us at Sasquatch Experience at
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gmail dot com. For the extremely low price of five dollars,
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you two can have a CD of the Best of
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the Sasquatch Experience. And that's the most. That's anouns of
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00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:15.920
maya infomercial there for the moment.
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00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:21.440
There's a lot of probably gonna put a video presentation
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together too. Actually have a friend of ours that works
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the same post video.
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His name is Dan.
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He's doing he's doing a documentary for a prost he's taking.
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We may introvert some of his video into ours and
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put out something kind of like our MySpace video is
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doing a little bit more of a production quality. Let's say, hey, Craig,
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make sure you spend us plenty of pictures from yours
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because we'd like to see how that we were there.
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Preatures in the conference. Hopefully there'll be people taking preatures.
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Usually I'm so busious, you know, as though it can
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tell you it's hard to do, uh have a camera,
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would even be taking pictures, but uh, I'm sure someone will.
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I wanna ask Craig about, uh how Operation Forest Vigil
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is going.
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Well, we in one of the areas uh down in
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the Big Ticket. We don't know how it's going. We
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haven't been down there since uh Hurricane Ike blew through,
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so hm, I know there's a lot of closures down
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there as well, some of the units of the Big Ticket.
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So uh, I think there's talk of this coming week
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end some of the team down there to do some
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recon check out the cameras, uh see if everything's still there,
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and uh service to cameras.
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That are.
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Now y'all got how many areas covers Miss Canons.
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I I think we've got cameras and I think about
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four different.
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Areas in while uh Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas and Louisiana.
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While a lot of one lot a whole. You know,
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it's a lot of cameras when you gotta get out
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and maintain them. But uh as far as uh a
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lot of cameras versus square footage of a forested area
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in that poor state area. There's uh sixty five million
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acres uh pision lands in those four states. Uh you figure,
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uh we've got about uh point uh six cameras perm
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per million acres.
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Sort of.
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Uh, I thot real good right now?
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Yeah, I thought the uh I hadn't I had a
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chance to listen to the most recent bethcast. I listened
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to number five when they talk when they first mentioned
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about the uh, the the the the camera.
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Project some very fascinating sense, you.
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Know, and and I I don't end the very I
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mean not very spring for ever in the rog all
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that way, and in the heat, my gosh, but.
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The as eat no less, it's tough conditions, for sure.
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Yeah, it most certainly is them. But yeah, somebody was
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asking in the chat room. I believe it was Kite Squatch.
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And there's been rumors about the availability of the DVD
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for the East Coast conference.
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There's no rumor, there's no speculation, there's no anything, because
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at this point there is no DVD of the two
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thousand and eight hees suposed to put conference the moment
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I do know that we have a lot of law
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footage of all the speakers, and you know, what we're
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going to do with that is solely up to the
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director of the TNSVANA big Foot Society, Eric Coleman, Right.
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I mean, it's it's a lot of work to be
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done on you know, all the all the footage has
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been taken to go through and edit it and you know,
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put it together in some sort of presentable fashion. So
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I'm sure if it's going to be coming out and
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will be coming out any time soon.
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H One more thing, Sean, you're gonna be celebrating two
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years next week.
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Next week or the week after. I haven't decided yet
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00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.119
on what we're going to do. A lot of people
629
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are wondering what's going on with the shows beyond the
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00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.720
Edge Radio and the Sasquatch experience, and there's been a
631
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lot of activity going on for myself with work and
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conferences and different projects we're working on. So unfortunately the
633
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.799
shows have suffered because of that. But it's the content
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that's going to be provided on these shows that are
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really where you folks are going to benefit from So
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that I apologize are having.
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Shown me real is it the shows that have suffered
638
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or is it actually the listeners that have suffered a
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little bit of.
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I think anytime the listeners listen, they suffer, but they
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keep coming back every week.
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All right, That's basically all I wanted to ask. Thanks
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for answering my questions, and Craig, good luck with the
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conference in two weeks. Yeah, you're welcome, and I'll be
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watching for the coverage on the internet and things like that,
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and I'm sure you'll probably get as much a newspaper
647
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coverage as Eric did and also as Don did when
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he had his.
649
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We can only hope.
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Yeah, all right, guys, I'm gonna take off. Thanks, thanks again,
651
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and you'll take care.
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Thanks for calling Henry, Henry mury Foyette folks, former co
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host All Around Big Flip Guy, wind back. Thank you
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for calling you, Henry mt folks. Lot of applause, All right, everybody,
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We right? What's that?
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That was clopping?
657
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Right?
658
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Yeah? That was clapping?
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That was no other good gud.
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Jeames girl Seed. The next speaker that was after Dian
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was I think bordering Dennis and he was talking about
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the I got said digital camera where now I could
663
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be misunderstood on this James because we were having a
664
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lot of activity at the table and some other events
665
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going on in the I didn't really get a chance
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to fully pay attention. But the real innovations not exactly
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in the camera itself, but in the casing or what's
668
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the deal with that? Now I understand it, and maybe
669
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I'm wrong, But how the wrong with it? Most cameras
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they make a sound or the murtors actually make a
671
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small sound where to you doesn't sound that much, but
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to animals as they pick it up because the hearing
673
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is a lot better in the tunes of different songs,
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kind of like dogs canari aks, so that we can't.
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So what I guess what he did was is he
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made the case thing so it eliminated that vibration and
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it eliminated that sound so that the new camera that
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she that he has now won't won't admit any sound.
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And that he did was he took a regular camcorder
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that he could buy from Mike let's say best Buy,
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because you know, Circuit City is on a fifty seven
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cents to show we don't see them being around a
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long time. But but you basically put that next to
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a microphone and you can actually hear the noise coming
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off of it with his camera. The way the casing
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has made it felt without that noise, you didn't have
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to hear. You couldn't hear anything. And that's what they're
688
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trying to say, is the big reason why Big Philip
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sous Qualee animals in general don't get pictured by the
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camera is the simple fact is that they can hear
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the noise from a distance, so they avoid the area.
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His camera doesn't make any noise, so they're folding and
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avoid the area. Very interesting. Do you say anything about that?
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Oh no, that was a really great actually snip away
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from lunch at that time where I talked to Bill
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quite a bit prior to conference and during the conference
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about the camera, and he showed me kind of the
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inner workings of it in the box that you bury underground,
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the signal a sense to the camera, and how the
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camera can actually run on a battery for six months.
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I think he said, just it sleeps when movement that
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he waked up, and it takes a picture, and I
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really can check it out in the six months you
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can go on one particular guy, which sounds like a
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heck of an improvement, you know, there's some good possibilities
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at this camera.
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Yeah, I mean being a good guy. He's he's been
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working on technology for years. I'ven't known him since I
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met him at Don's conference, probably in either two thousand
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or two thousand and one, and we've we've worked with
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him before on some other projects and looking forward to
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getting one of the uh I got the systems out
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in the field to do some field tisting down here
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in Texas.
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Yeah, it was a good guy.
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I know.
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I thoroughly enjoyed the funeral and check out the spend
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with him there at the conference and once the one thing,
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the unfortunate thing about the conference is that everybody's so busy.
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Uh.
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You know, every time you turn around, someone's snapping a
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photograph for uh. Everybody has questions and you're pooled one way.
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And it was a really exciting time for us. I know,
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we spent a lot of time at our terrible which
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we didn't sell anything, but it was good because we
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got to sit next to Stan Gordon, who's a wealth
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of information on bigfoot servings in Pennsylvania and some unusual
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happenings in Pennsylvania, which is very James.
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We also got to meet Bob Crain, which you know
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someone I spoke to a lot upon you The man
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is really interesting, especially in person, because you know story
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he tell.
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Bob's Bob clin is a great guy, a former police
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00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.400
chief of a Maine police department. I don't remember which
735
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:43.639
town exactly, but he has some interesting plans coming up
736
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.199
for the Bigfoot quests. I hope you all stick around
737
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:49.480
for and I let him announce those. But really nice,
738
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.679
very nice to meet him and Mike Killing of that show.
739
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.239
You spent a lot of time talking to these people
740
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.480
and being part of their show and building this uh
741
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:02.159
this you know, Bigfoot network, and it's just really nice
742
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:05.639
to finally put a face to a name, and it
743
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.920
was an enjoyable time.
744
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:08.880
For all of us, you know.
745
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:11.920
The second part of the hour that was given to
746
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.840
Builder and Guinness was given up for Mike Frizell, who
747
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:18.760
directs the Enigma Project. Mike isn't you know, one of
748
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.679
the nicest guys I think I've ever met, A very
749
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.199
very smart guy. He seems like he should be teaching
750
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:30.679
college courses. But yeah, he was discussing Theedar, which is
751
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.920
a new venture joint venture between the Virginia Bigfoot Research
752
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.440
organization and the ENIGMA Project, and CEDAR stands for the
753
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.639
Center for the Exploration and Documentation of Phenomenaly Reports and
754
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.840
they're going to be investigating, if you know, more than
755
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:49.159
just bigfoot. But I wish them the best and I
756
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.639
really look forward to more information on that group. Their
757
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:54.559
website will be coming out in a few months and
758
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.800
you can go see that at CEDAR files dot org
759
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.559
and hopefully all of you will check them out and
760
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.960
give them your support. Mike and bildrined in us a
761
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:06.760
great gentleman and it was just a pleasure, uh, meeting
762
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:12.760
them and sharing some big foot discussion. Moving on and
763
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.119
after that was a Billy Road from Virginia who was
764
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.880
one of my favorite speakers. A Billy was fun. Yeah,
765
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:26.320
I mean he brought a very I'm lacking the word,
766
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:30.079
I lacking the words, but it was very I should say, casual,
767
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:33.519
but comfortable, very inforn of. I mean he had some
768
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:34.239
good stories.
769
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:38.920
James, he had a country style. When he te he talked.
770
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.639
When he talked, he talked, you know even why and
771
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:48.119
he he uh when he spoke to him, I lived
772
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:50.559
like you were sitting in his living room, and you know,
773
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.480
he felt comfortable to speak with you, and he knew
774
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.920
what he was talking about. You know, he was another
775
00:40:57.960 --> 00:40:59.960
person that toutured the room without trying.
776
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:06.280
Mhm, b J. How was your experience were?
777
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:08.920
Yeah, it was good, as you asked. Came to talk
778
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:11.119
to him a couple of weeks before the conference. That
779
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:12.519
was a good day to meet him as well.
780
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:13.480
Yeah.
781
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.440
Something that I thought was really interesting is they're doing
782
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.599
out there. They're training training eagles to track.
783
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:19.199
Uh.
784
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.360
So he has a peetle named Atomy. He put on
785
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:23.960
a power point there and every weeks only started training
786
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.840
a dog to catch sense and kind of work on
787
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:29.920
uh tracking a big foot like creature, which I think
788
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:31.880
is really innovative techniques. You know, it may not be
789
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.760
the I Gotcha camera, but it's certainly making good use
790
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.239
of the resources at hand. So that was something unique
791
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.159
to d and stand When else really mentioned kind of
792
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.400
getting animals and dogs and sent tracking involved U in
793
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:44.760
the stirp. So that was I thought pretty interesting, uh
794
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:49.599
thing they're doing there in Virginia. It was interesting because
795
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:51.000
you know, one of the things you hear is that,
796
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.440
you know, a negative reaction towards dogs from the Sasquatch,
797
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:58.280
and I've never really heard of anybody really specifically training
798
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.760
dogs to go out and seek these creatures. And I
799
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:04.920
really hope there's some success with the project because it's
800
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.480
pretty neat, and of course no harm comes to Little
801
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.920
Autumn because as we know, the Sasquad isn't a big
802
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:16.679
fan of the Canaine. So it was kind of a
803
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.000
kind of an interesting piece there from Billy After Billy
804
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:24.400
was probably I would say one of the more unique
805
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:28.679
presentations in that of Sally Ramsey who was showing off
806
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:34.920
a ginormous tree twist. And Sally was pretty interesting. Sally
807
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:41.840
and the tree twist found by Olaf Siemens, and.
808
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:41.960
It was just it was different.
809
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:47.360
James, Oh, I got the thumb on that there drag,
810
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:49.599
Well was it from Mississippi?
811
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:49.800
There?
812
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.840
I bought that whole thing up from North Carolina? North Carolina,
813
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:59.519
I get the state's mixed up. Sorry, yeah, but the
814
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:03.000
fact is, you know they discuss about what the tree
815
00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:05.679
twists might look like or hairy. How can you know
816
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.519
you don't really get the real effect and actually physically
817
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:11.199
look at one and look how the wind couldn't have
818
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.480
knocked that around. Something had been beating on that to
819
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:18.960
get it to twist. The lay good it gives you
820
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.239
a grander scare of that, you know what they're talking
821
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.519
about when they find these random you know, people go, well,
822
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:28.159
you know, we found this weird thing in the middle
823
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.239
of the mirror that makes no sense and there's no
824
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:34.599
animal around that will do that. And then you know
825
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:38.199
the wheel of this big branch in that's got you know,
826
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:42.320
the bark just ripped, either offered or twisted so much
827
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:44.480
around it you could tell that something that's been playing
828
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.920
with it for like four or five hours.
829
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:52.199
Well, you know, let's find a dandy to speculate that's
830
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.360
what's made that tree twist. But you know, none of
831
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:58.239
us were there, none of us saw anything actually physically
832
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.480
do it. And Craig and I have some discussion on
833
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:02.920
that as well, and there was a lot of uh
834
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.800
speculation going on about that too many right else and
835
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.159
not in my fact, Greg, wouldn't you agree.
836
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:11.519
Oh certainly, I mean, you know it it was very interesting.
837
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:16.159
It's uh, you know, it's it was pretty amazing that
838
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:21.320
you know, in my eyes, there's no evidence of that
839
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:24.880
sasquatch related. I don't know what could have done it,
840
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.760
but I don't jump on the bandwagon that The first
841
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:34.199
thing that you should jump on as.
842
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:38.599
The what created it? Is a sasquatch? I know that.
843
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:42.880
Uh that's certainly controversy out there, and I'm sure there
844
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:44.920
would be in the in the chat room as well,
845
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.320
but you know, it's just my opinion. I mean, I
846
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:53.400
don't know what created that, and uh so I'm certainly
847
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:57.920
not gonna say that the sasquatch did. There's anything you
848
00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:59.199
make you put it there?
849
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:01.920
Well? Oh yeah, I mean if for an outside looking in,
850
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:03.719
it was a really interesting thing to see. And I
851
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:05.480
actually I talked to a lot of the night before
852
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:07.239
and he may, ad, you see the treech you see
853
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.360
the twist that brought in. I had no idea who
854
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.000
was talking about, you know, I had to actually see
855
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:14.000
it with my own eyes. But yeah, it's interesting. I
856
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.480
guess the question that I never had answer is what's
857
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.639
the point for what? Where was wor some series behind
858
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:21.599
the tree twist the pigs that would do with for
859
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.880
for tracking purposes or for locational purposes and navigation. I
860
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.159
wasn't really sure why I would That's something I'd be
861
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.480
interested in hearing some series on. But yeah, I enjoyed
862
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.320
seeing it all the thing. That was quite an interesting
863
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:35.599
artifact to have, right there and it might have been
864
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:38.400
the most uh. I think. I think people really wanted
865
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:40.519
to have something physical in the room, you know, and
866
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:42.400
that's when you're the one piece of physical evidence that
867
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.400
was in the room with everyone. So it was a
868
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:48.639
hit for that reason alone. I mean, it was chargeable.
869
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.159
I mean, it took two or three men to look
870
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.280
it into the building. And you know, my question is
871
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:56.639
into the velocity it was fabricated. My question to what
872
00:45:56.920 --> 00:46:00.119
is is you know what made it? And we just
873
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.320
can't go off assuming that every trust in a tree
874
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.800
twist in the wa was just speak for me. Well,
875
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:10.159
you know, I agree Sean, and the question I had
876
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.920
and I don't know if I poised it, well, Stan
877
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.440
Gordon and I talked about it because you know as
878
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.880
well as I do. Stan Gordon has been doing these
879
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:22.360
investigations for years and years and years and it just
880
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.360
aughts the same as mine with the tree twists is why,
881
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:30.039
I mean, would why would that be the case. Why
882
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.440
is everyone's assumption that it's sasquatch. I mean, like I said,
883
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.519
I don't know what could have done it, if it's
884
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.719
read related or what.
885
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:46.519
Machinery, But I'm just not ready to until I see
886
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:50.719
a sasquatch actually grabbed the branch and twisted around.
887
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:51.559
Tired it or not.
888
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:53.920
I'm not ready to say that it's sasquatch related.
889
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.679
Oh and I'm not saying that definitely something. I'm just
890
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:00.920
saying that it just seems like the wind couldn't have
891
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:01.800
possibly done that.
892
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:03.360
Well, you know what I mean.
893
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:08.000
It just seems too you know, wrapped, you know, the
894
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:10.480
wind that would have broke offer it wouldn't have wrapped
895
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.400
it around. It's easy easily. That's why I'm you know,
896
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.760
I not did a person who knows, But the fact
897
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.400
is that, you know, you got to wonder where you
898
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.400
know there's something natural. It doesn't seem like it's a
899
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.000
natural event, you know what I mean, Like it there
900
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.239
was a real stormy weather and then there there's this
901
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:31.159
tree that's all mangled up. Well, the thing I want
902
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:36.480
to that I wanted to pose and I didn't pull
903
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.239
it publicly. But but the fact was that, you know,
904
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:43.440
people are always speculating that well, you know, these tree
905
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:48.199
twists are found in the areas of reported sasquatch activity.
906
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:52.760
But the question I had, well, you know, is anybody
907
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:56.679
looking into areas where there's no sasquatch related activity, and
908
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.880
are they finding these same kind of trees there twist?
909
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:02.960
You know, I mean if somebody's wanted to do the
910
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:05.599
research on it and wants to say that a you know,
911
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.079
fast watch doing this, well then we can know these
912
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:11.639
when there's no fasquatch activity, and you know, if you're
913
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:13.719
seeing these same times of things, then maybe that would
914
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:14.760
rule it out.
915
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:18.360
Yeah, I mean, we may not ever know what made
916
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.280
the tree twist, but the fact of the matter is
917
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:23.159
it was still interesting enough to document and we do
918
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:25.239
thank them for bringing it. It was a hell of an
919
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:26.880
effort it took to get it here. It took, as
920
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:28.599
I said, two or three men to even lifted into
921
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.480
the conference hall. And it was interesting and thank them
922
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:33.159
for sharing it. But you know, at this point it's
923
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.239
still that leaves a lot of doubt in my mind.
924
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:36.639
Is that what could have you know, if it was
925
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.000
made by big footer and even just asked the question
926
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.519
what could have made it or Craig as you pointed out, why, Well,
927
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.679
you know, people talk about when couldn't have done that?
928
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:50.760
But you know I can show you pictures and bonds.
929
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:55.000
You know, we've done whether the research for years. You
930
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.039
can show you have pictures of two buffalos that are
931
00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:00.360
driven all the way through through an oak tree, you know,
932
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.760
in a storm. So I mean storms and the weather
933
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:09.519
in nature can do some strange things than you. They can.
934
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:13.119
And it was interesting. And another piece of evidence that
935
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.039
Salah presented well, and she hadn't call it evidence, but
936
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:20.519
it was a piece of interest was the game cam
937
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.760
photo that they shared. And I thought that was interesting
938
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:26.679
in the fact that there's a picture A and then
939
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:30.239
they have that have picture B, which is this exact
940
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.679
vicinity both. The one thing I did notice is that
941
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:36.400
there were different focal likes away. One was a little
942
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.039
bit closer than the other. But in the one photograph
943
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:44.840
is a distinct black object in the watered area. As
944
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:48.599
she points out, you can she's I don't want to
945
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:51.440
say she's modified the image, but the graphic designers or
946
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:56.320
whatever she the terms she coined, had brought enough detail
947
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:58.039
out of that so you could see what it was,
948
00:49:58.079 --> 00:49:59.880
and it looks like, you know, there's a distinct brow.
949
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:05.960
It's interesting and uh, it was just an interesting photograph
950
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:07.840
to me, she said. She pointed out that it's never
951
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:12.119
gonna prove anything to anybody. Uh, she doesn't know what
952
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.039
it is. But not in my life that I was
953
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:15.599
just thankful that she shared it with me because it
954
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:23.440
did piaup my interest a little bit big James, you
955
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:23.760
said with.
956
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:28.079
Yeah, I'm immutely round for a minute there.
957
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:28.760
It's just.
958
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.440
He said, I love to be with something that you
959
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:36.960
need to hear my refrigerator open in the photo be poor,
960
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:43.800
you know. But yeah, the pictures and the stuff that
961
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.159
they brought with them, you know, did make a difference
962
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:49.039
of seeing it is more believed, being able to believe
963
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:51.920
with them, you know, just say we've seen these weird
964
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:56.519
things and this is what they point to. As the
965
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:58.679
conference went on, there were a few other things that
966
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:00.920
they were kind of that, you know, going through signed
967
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:04.480
to different things, and I think that kind of that
968
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:07.079
kind of pushed me sometimes towards the other way that
969
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:11.840
some people believe too much and everything they see, Like
970
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:14.360
we're going on the guided tour and a woman was like,
971
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:17.920
there's some rocks on top of that stick, and I said, yeah,
972
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:20.440
probably the construction guys that are making the Jass name
973
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.079
got bored, you know, But to her, anything she saw
974
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:25.440
it seemed to be like a sign.
975
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:32.159
You know, great, did you anything you guys thought about
976
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:33.840
in the picture that was interesting.
977
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:38.400
Or well, I know there were some people there that
978
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:43.360
actually saw the actual photograph itself. I just saw what
979
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.559
was god get you know, shown up on the screen,
980
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:49.199
and from the angle we were at, you know, I
981
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:54.239
could see a you know, a dark area. I wasn't
982
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:58.440
able to discern any detail from it or anything. So
983
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:01.719
I got with in that and the sail than you know,
984
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:06.639
with the photograph that suppose you know, supposed to this area,
985
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.280
and then very you know, a later shot that shows
986
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:13.920
something so you know it was a dark object in it.
987
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:15.400
Yeah.
988
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:18.840
As I pointed out too that the sorry DJ, give
989
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.599
me one moment, that the photographs were taken from two
990
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:26.679
different cameras. The photograph with the object in question was
991
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:30.840
taken with a four megapixel trail camera. Was the area
992
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:35.880
beforehand or the area taking was that before? After the
993
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:41.280
shot with the supposed object in the photograph, the area
994
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:43.960
was taken with an eight megapixel camera. So that sort
995
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:46.280
of noteworthy is because as you know, more megapixels and
996
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:47.880
I wanted you to blow it up more with more
997
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:50.760
detail and more clarity.
998
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.280
Oh yeah, I've been jumping and said I have seen
999
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:58.000
see the picture the night before at dinner off started
1000
00:52:58.039 --> 00:52:59.880
with me, and it was it was really I mean,
1001
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.679
pretty clear that there's something there. But I mean personally,
1002
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:04.360
I don't I don't trust my head enough, you know.
1003
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:07.199
I just you had a big foot conference. Someone tells you,
1004
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:08.880
this is a picture of something that may or may
1005
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:11.400
not be a big butt, and automatically my mind's going
1006
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.440
in a way that I've seen clotures my eyes as
1007
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:15.559
much as I be apt in a more neutral environment,
1008
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:18.559
you know, all the same. That was really fascinating for sure.
1009
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.119
But yeah, I know, I guess you know, you can
1010
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:23.599
the pictures so much in the end, and if you're
1011
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.760
there knowing you're supports to maybe see a big boat, you're.
1012
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:27.239
You're mind going to play a trick on you their hat.
1013
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:29.599
That's well, it's all the same, no question about it
1014
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:30.400
was really interesting.
1015
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:35.000
Yeah, I mean, the pictures were there. I mean, I
1016
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:37.119
was once again thankful for them to bring it. But
1017
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:41.599
it's the one thing to noticate it is that no
1018
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.480
clue is that we're not saying, you know, anybody's wrong,
1019
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:46.679
or we're not saying that nobody has any evidence. It's
1020
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:49.639
just taking an objective look of what was presented. And
1021
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:51.960
I said the same on myself is that you know
1022
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.960
those photographs they treat my interest. I was interested in those,
1023
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:58.599
and I thanked her personally. You know, I'm known as
1024
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.440
a pain in the ass. Uh, you know, the quote
1025
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:05.840
unquote romantics. But that's the one thing I require is
1026
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.360
evidence before we start making these these claims. And I
1027
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:12.039
was really thankful personally that the boy she presented to
1028
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.000
the audience was, look, these are the photographs we have.
1029
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:19.519
They're compelling that they're not going to prove anything, and
1030
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:25.400
I appreciated that. The next, I believe, the last speaker
1031
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:27.880
we had for the night was I think I'm at.
1032
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.360
I wanted to I wanted to go ahead and make
1033
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:30.840
him up there.
1034
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:35.440
I guess living to Sally as one of the romantics
1035
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:39.960
that the worker is that well, is that what you
1036
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:43.039
were alluding to Sally was one of the romantics? Well,
1037
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.639
I was issusing, you know, the general romantics of a
1038
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:46.519
general category.
1039
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:47.000
Right.
1040
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:51.679
Well, I know, I know it's interesting. You know I
1041
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:56.000
know that she's isn't she involved with the bfo O?
1042
00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:59.599
I mean they you know, I don't really know that
1043
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.599
much of about the whole deal, but you know, it's
1044
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:05.199
it's for me to thrail in everything that you know,
1045
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.880
not only is she involved, I guess in some formal
1046
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:13.000
fashion would be the bflo that she's also involved in
1047
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:15.880
film formal fashion that you know Janice Carter. So that's
1048
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:23.840
kind of a interesting uh uh relationship there with everybody involved.
1049
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:26.760
Yeah, and you know, that's another thing you have to
1050
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:28.840
look at when you know the people presenting the evidence
1051
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:34.280
of the associations and their past histories and with uh,
1052
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:36.840
you know, in the field the associations and some of
1053
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:40.280
the situations they've been involved in. I know she's a
1054
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:43.920
big believer and supporter of jan Carter, but you know,
1055
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:45.639
as I said, the one thing that impressed me was
1056
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:49.440
her you know, objectivity she put forward from presenting the details,
1057
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:51.400
and I think that was a little bit more palatable
1058
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.159
to everybody in the audience. I think that made a
1059
00:55:57.960 --> 00:55:59.800
uh made it a little bit easier for some people
1060
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:03.559
that very skeptical and I know the background to swallow it,
1061
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:06.320
even myself and I had a conversation with her engine
1062
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:09.360
Carter at the conference, and they understand where I stood,
1063
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:12.400
and I thanked them for providing us with what they have,
1064
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.320
but at the point told them that you know, I'm
1065
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:19.480
not gonna be believe her until they showed me the monkey.
1066
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:20.079
You know.
1067
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:23.880
Yeah, I didn't get a chance to talk to Jenna,
1068
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:30.119
but Michael thirty and I were entertained by her. I
1069
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:33.159
believe four year old to Hunter for a period of
1070
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:37.519
time there after the conference and her her daughter is cute,
1071
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:38.360
attic for sure.
1072
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:42.519
Yeah, she was something else. She had me busted the
1073
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:49.280
seams for a few minutes, dancing around talking to everybody. Hilarious.
1074
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:51.440
So it brings us to the last speaker of the
1075
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:58.320
night there, guys, was Tom Lancaster, and Tom had the
1076
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:02.360
I think the off part of trying to make science interesting,
1077
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:05.719
and Tom had a lot of science he was discussing.
1078
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:08.840
But I think the biggest problem with the presentation is
1079
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:10.840
that everybody was getting up. That was the end of
1080
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:14.719
the night, and people were getting up and I think
1081
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:17.119
distracting some of the other people that really wanted to listen.
1082
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.800
Because Tom had a lot of science to go over,
1083
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:22.800
and some of it was very interesting, and I had
1084
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:29.159
to guilty that I got the world when he started
1085
00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:31.039
going into the whole gts and everything. So I was
1086
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:33.239
hoping that one of you find gentlemen on the line
1087
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:35.360
and I could fill me in on what Tom the
1088
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:41.679
meat potatoes of Tom's presentation. I don't know if you
1089
00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:43.599
caught any of that, James or DJ or, because I
1090
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.119
know Craig and I were discussing some of what Tom
1091
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:51.000
was saying, and then it went pandemonium with the audience.
1092
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:55.400
I'm going down and got something to eat. Well, I
1093
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:57.920
came back to basically what he was trying to do
1094
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.599
is look at where tracks were d gp ass and
1095
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:05.119
then from there he was going to see if they
1096
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:11.039
pointed towards another track. But I think that he got
1097
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:14.519
sidetracked on some of the comments some of the other
1098
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:17.559
people made, and that was where he kind of said,
1099
00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:20.400
you know, they we're not tell sure, And you know,
1100
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:22.920
I think I think some of the people that weren't
1101
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:25.840
listening well or didn't want to listen to what he
1102
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:28.679
had to say kind of like gotting flustered.
1103
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:33.280
There was an old prick in the audience who was
1104
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:37.559
just a pain in the ass during that presentation, and
1105
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:39.119
I think it was the same man that was a
1106
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.079
pain in the ass to me on the Guard tour.
1107
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:47.840
But it's one of the things you always got to expect,
1108
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:50.159
I guess when speaking of one of these conmises, is
1109
00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:56.360
that someone's always going to have a heckler it did
1110
00:58:56.360 --> 00:58:59.360
you anything you'd like to add to Tom's presentation? Ye,
1111
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.519
good presentation. It was frustrating, right, everyone was kind of
1112
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:04.920
pitching midway through. It was a long day, so we'll
1113
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.000
give it to him. I think seven hours of straight
1114
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:10.480
presentations is tough for anyone. But he mentioned a lot
1115
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:15.480
about looking for hydrogen sulfide and sillennium in the environment.
1116
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:18.119
He's trying to do something with one of those. I
1117
00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:20.280
here which chemical compound. One of those have to do
1118
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:24.760
with reproduction for nursing milk, I think, and so I
1119
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:27.079
want to do with reproduction cycles and that sort of thing.
1120
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:28.840
But it's very I guess that it's got some really
1121
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:33.679
great ideas. Just trilling to listen in horror when squeaky
1122
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:36.440
chairs and people are wandering around, you know, kind of
1123
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:38.599
leaving like you said. But yeah, definitely definitely a lot
1124
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.280
of marriage that he had had to work with. I
1125
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:43.239
think that's a lot of the most scientific group really
1126
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:45.239
working on the science back kind of thing. That a
1127
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:47.719
little validity, a little more validity to the field. So
1128
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:53.159
it was good. It was really enjoyable. Well, correctly it
1129
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:55.760
has ended. Why don't you go and played the conference
1130
00:59:55.800 --> 00:59:58.639
for the people that have been catching the archives so.
1131
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:02.360
You can get your information that Texas Bigfoot Batter organ
1132
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:06.840
the conferences. UH October eighteenth from Jefferson, Texas, Peter Burn,
1133
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:12.400
Henry Fahrenbach during a Holy Field Alton Higgins door, I'll
1134
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:16.519
call you. Kathy Strain is gonna be speaking now.
1135
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:17.719
Uh.
1136
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:22.239
Rick Moll will be there in attendance. Spent some time
1137
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.360
at Rick yesterday up in the Boggy Creek area, UH
1138
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:30.320
filming for a five monster episode of Monster Request. So
1139
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:35.519
that was interesting. Uh left the area about one thirty
1140
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:38.360
this morning and got home about six thirty this morning.
1141
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:42.159
So but uh stick and I hired and kevinly Mosquito bites.
1142
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:45.840
Well, guys, that's all the time to have done there.
1143
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.679
But I thought the personally take a moment, thank you
1144
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.599
Craig for uh, you know everything at the East Class
1145
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:52.760
State for conference recon. Had a good time. Finally nice
1146
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:55.599
to meet you and to hang out, and UH thanks
1147
01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:56.679
for joining us here tonight.
1148
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:01.280
Thereint no problem, guys, and DJ I'll go ahead all
1149
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:04.559
for sure, that's right, and UH, I'll be looking forward
1150
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:08.480
to coming to some of those future Texas conference In DJA.
1151
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:11.760
Margna was going to have then. I hope to make
1152
01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:16.159
it DJ soon. It was a pleasure meeting you, and
1153
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:18.760
I'm surprised you regained your son of the after studying
1154
01:01:18.760 --> 01:01:20.679
a lucent with James and I, I.
1155
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.280
Will the guys would be doing thought from over this summer.
1156
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:24.719
I really would take out and been a day or
1157
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:26.519
two with you was a blos. I can't thank you enough.
1158
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:27.840
I want to tell you real fast. When I was
1159
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:30.159
in the airplane on the ride home, I opened the
1160
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:32.880
sky Mall magazine and there in the sky Mall was
1161
01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:36.679
the exact uh Perino Uh Sasquatch three day to Nicky
1162
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:38.559
right there they're selling right there on the airplane. It
1163
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:43.519
was unbelievable for all, unbelieved right toward all send studio.
1164
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:45.119
But yeah, thanks again, guys. There was a block and
1165
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:46.719
I got a lot of writing going on. I said
1166
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:48.119
the question that I'll be in.
1167
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:49.079
Test too, don't worry.
1168
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:52.679
Well, fantastic, keep those questions coming. Uh, folks, you've been
1169
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:55.719
listening to the Sasquatch Experience on Folker, James Baker, Credit
1170
01:01:55.760 --> 01:02:00.320
Will Eater and BJ Hollows Uh keep on s question everybody,
1171
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.079
good night. We'll see you next week. Melissa Hovey will
1172
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.639
be discussing her casting project. So stick around because next
1173
01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:08.480
week we'll be talking about Melissa's feet more.
1174
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:13.880
Will also be covering the dotted poor we there we go, Yeah,
1175
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:15.239
I all fye
1176
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:20.360
M hm