Episode 421 - Prospect Risers with Lucas Morel of ProspectsLive

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League time. So with like if al Wes said it
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just like even though the season's coming, you know, closer
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to a close, especially the minor league season, things continue
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to ramp up and we got a lot to cover
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on the episode. Today got a brand new guest to
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the show. Lucas Morrell from Prospects Live is going to
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join me. He was a part of James Anderson's first
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year player draft that we did over in rode A
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Wire and I enjoyed listening to Lucas and we chatted
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behind the scenes and I was just like, I gotta
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get you on. So he's going to be joining on
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the show where we're gonna be talking through you know,
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a couple of interesting prospects, a couple guys he wants
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to get into, lots of names in there, lots of analysis.
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It's a really good conversation. Enjoy talking to Lucas. That
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and the things. A couple things before we get into
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the episode. The MLB Draft class is. As I'm getting
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this to you, there's about two days less for you know,
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any of these picks to get all signed up. I
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believe there's like a small handful of top ten picks overall,
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if I remember correctly, that have not signed. Majority of
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everybody else. I think the most significant one is Derek
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Kurriel with the Pirates. As I'm recording this, I don't
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have any reason to think. I mean, he has a
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little bit more leverage, I suppose because he was it
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was a sophomore, I believe, so maybe there's a tiny
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bit more leverage. But I think that'll be fine. It
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doesn't look like there's anything significant. The most significant one
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that looks like they may not sign is Logan Schmidt,
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and that would be kind of a loss, to be
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honest with you, just because that was a big name.
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That was the name that was being floated around in
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the first round. And again I'm saying this, and like
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by the time this post, it could he could be
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all signed up. But that would be The Guardian's second
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round pick because Liam Peterson just signed. Could be an
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issue of maybe like what's left in the pool, you know,
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because they overslotted Xavian Simms, who was their seventh round pick.
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I think it was like pick value was like two eighty.
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They paid him like a million Bucks, So this might
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be a little bit tough because the slot value is
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one point six at this state. I don't know where
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they're at, but I don't know if they have a
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ton of wiggle room. So that looks like that would
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probably be the most significant player if he doesn't sign.
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There were a couple guys later that were kind of expected,
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like high school guys that went super late. That's probably
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like no big surprise. I no, I don't think on
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the inverse, there were a ton of surprises of guys
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that people didn't think would sign that did, Like Carson
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Sabathia's kid ended up signing. Retaro Sazaki signed. That was
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a little bit of a surprise, but that wasn't past.
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That was like the eighth round. The Diamondbacks had a
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kid that everyone thought might be a little bit tough,
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Cody Boschell, big kind of first base prospect that they
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were able to overslot, and he was in the eleventh round.
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But yeah, like I said, I don't think there was
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any like insane surprises after the fact of who did sign,
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who didn't sign, and we are just about on the
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precipice of you know, everything else getting set. Why that's
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important is because next week the Bridge League is going
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to start up. I was out at the final game
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of the Complex League for the regular season the other
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day over at the Dodgers, and that's going into playoff mode.
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I think it's happening today and I think Monday is
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the final playoff game, and then it's going to transition
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into Bridge League. And you can see that the Rookie
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League ending by some of the promotions. Just like two
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days ago, Luis Hernandez and jos War Gonzales were promoted
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and it was very sold as like they are promoted.
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It's like, well, yeah, because the league is over, the
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Rookie League is over, they got to move up unless
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they're going to be hanging around Bridge League, which why
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would you do that. So they moved up to a
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ball that's going to be are really interesting. I think
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that's huge for both of these guys, just to see
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like how the upticking competition goes. But the playoff teams
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will finish up. I would imagine, you know, guys like
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steel Hall who played here all year, they're going to
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move up in the next day or two and then
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it's going to go to the Rookie Bridge League and
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the Bridge league is discussed years past. That is in
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like uncounted league. Think of it like instructs, but in
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season it's a And that's kind of why they you know,
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they moved up rookie ball a month and then they
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ended a month early, and then they've got this transitional
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instructional type league. It's almost purely rookie draft class based,
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not on a hundred percent or anything like that. But
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like when I went a couple of years ago, it
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was like the Brewers had all their guy It was like,
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you know, Jaden Fielder, Braylyn, Payne, Burke, all those guys
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were there. CAGs was there after he was drafted. So
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my expectation for the most part is going to be
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at least the first couple days. It might not be
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true for everybody, but over the first couple of days
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of this Bridge League, which starts between Tuesday and Thursday,
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some of the college based guys will go. That specifically
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is speaking to like Rock Chelaski. They've got a camp
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going on. So when I was at the Dodgers Dodgers
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in white Sock share a complex, I couldn't go over
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to the other side because we were on the Dodgers side.
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Where Jim Tomy was there because his son is there
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land in Toma. All of the White Sox guys are
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on the other side DOINGVP. But I did see the
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Dodgers guy and here was a cool one. Jason Hayward
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was running the rookie camp and I got to talk
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to Bo Lawrence. I have I have a little nugget
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for you on Bo Lawrence too. Bo Lawrence a big guy.
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He was who I want the Diamondbacks to pick. I
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really wanted. I didn't say that to him, but that's
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what I wanted. It was the entire draft class for
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the Dodgers, maybe the hitting side of it, because now
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I'm thinking about it. Hayward, I don't think was with
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the pitchers. But it's very funny because it was almost
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like a teacher with a like a kindergarten class, because
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it's like Hayward would be like, all right, guys, come on,
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and they'd all walk and he'd walk them to one
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side of the thing and then he would lead the pack,
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all right, guys, you know, grab your body. You know.
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It felt very much like a school thing, but very
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cool seeing Jason Hayward out there also. So Nelson Cruz
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was working with something, you know. So they had just
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Nelson Cruse working I think with the Complex guys. Jason
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Hayward's working with the rookies. But they've all got these
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little mini camps going on as well. Another one I
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can report to you. I was at the This I
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find really interesting. I was at the Padres a couple
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days prior. I hadn't done a ton and ton of
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rookie this year. I was at the Padres a couple
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days prior, and the entire draft class came out. What
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was interesting is they were not signed. Specifically Coleman Borthwick
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he was not signed. He'd signed I think yesterday, and
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this was like three days before, and he was out
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there by the way big like they list him at
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six six, two forty five for better for worse. He
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is not two hundred and forty five pounds. He is
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more than two hundred and forty five pounds. He's but
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the nicest guy in the big old Southern Bowl. Yes, sir, no, sir,
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you know, like very very very nice nice guy.
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Uh.
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But I thought it was interesting that he was out
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there three days before he had signed. So there must
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be like weird contractual things where these guys. They they're committed.
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I don't know what the thing is, you know, I'm
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what I'm getting at is like, why is a guy
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in camp doing stuff, hanging out when they're not signed.
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That seems weird. But there's probably some little like we're
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gonna sign, we just got to get this figured out,
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or you know, whatever the hell it is. But all
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the guys you are there everywhere running camps. And what
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that enables is once these Bridge League games start going on,
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that I do think the college based guys will get
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in the first couple of days, and then that leads
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to the possibility of them being moved up. As I've
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mentioned before, I think with the potential labor stuff going on,
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that college based players could be pushed more aggressively to
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not miss time so they can get the hell out
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of there, so they could run the high school guys
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in in Bridge League. And that would mean guys like Rock.
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You know, I don't think it's out of pocket that
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Rock could go. I don't he go to hi A,
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to be honest with you, Jay could just send him
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straight to Hya and then maybe he even gets to Double.
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And as I've and I said, I think a week
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or so ago or maybe longer I think I said
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on CBS, But like, I think someone like Rock Shaalowski
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is a potential for the Arizona Fall League. And I
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think a handful of the college guys because of potential
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labor issues, could be guys that go out to the
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Arizona Fall League. I still have I think I've mentioned
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this before. I don't apologies. I don't know if I
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said this with Lucas or not, but I kind of
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keep getting back and forth from people where I say that,
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like I don't expect it to be any minor league
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baseball next year, and I've had multiple people like disagree
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with me and say, no, it's just forty man, but
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that can't be true, like all of the minor leagues
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are under the Minor League under the PA. I need
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to speak to somebody more in the know than the
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people that are telling me that's not going to happen.
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So I'll reconfirm that. But because of that, I do
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not expect because the Players Association is now attached to
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minor league baseball, and if there's a labor strike, I
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think that applies to everybody. You know, we'll see. I
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guess maybe I am wrong. Maybe that's like secondary from
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what this is going on, But the point is is,
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like I think due to that, there's a potential for
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more rookies to go to the Arizona Fall League, more
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guys to maybe even not even to announce a bridge
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league and just start going. They want these guys to
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get games. So all of this to say that I
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hope I will be able to go out to a
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handful of these games and share back video information about
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these guys. Oh I forgot like the Bowl, because like,
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when I can talk to some of these guys, I
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will Borthwick, big dude, very excited to watch him pitch.
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But Bo Lawrence, I'm talking to him and it looked
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like they were running some first base drills and I said, oh,
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they're over there running first base drills. I'm like, what
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do they got you working at. I'm like, were you
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doing corner on third? And he's like, actually, shortstop and
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he now I have heard this a million times from
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players though by the way that it's like whatever position
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they kind of come in at, like this is what
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I'm going to be. And that's a little bit how
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Bo was. But he's like, they're gonna let me run
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at shortstop and I'm going to try to run at shortstop.
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And I was like, good for you, dude. He's a
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big six foot five, you know, probably maybe right, probably
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one ninety, to be honest with you. He has the
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classic look of a guy that's going to grow in
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and be like a third baseman, you know, maybe like
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an Alec Bohm physicality, he's going to get there or
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something like that. But the Dodgers have been ones. They
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let Oneil Cruz work out at shortstop. Obviously they developed
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Corey Seeger like they're not afraid to have big shortstop.
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So good for him. And that's what he told me,
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that he's going to continue at short So I think
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a lot of us were just shipping him immediately as
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a third baseman, but that does not seem to and
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I think they, yeah, they drafted him positionally as a shortstop,
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so he might move into that position, which I think
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is what's going to happen. But he was very adamant
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about the he gets to run at shortstop here for
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a bit, so that's cool. But this is the stuff
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is Hopefully I can talk to some of these guys
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in whatever capacity I will be able to see and
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record some of the games and see what some of
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that output looks like, and that can help. You know,
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there's a decent chance the high school class you don't
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see stats from. I'm not saying it's one hundred percent,
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because it does change, but look at Steel Hall. You
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know he didn't go anywhere last year. The college guys,
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the Rock Chelaski's they're going to get playing time. But
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will Land and Tom ever leave here, you know, you
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guys might not see Tomy or prose I can get
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any stats. That's where I hope that I can go
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and get some video and stif and try to help
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with the process moving forward. But be on the lookout
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for that because that's this next week transition. I just
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wanted to mention this Sebastian Walcott, such a quick return
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and just right back into the freaking thick of it,
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so thoroughly impressed. He's been around the Surprise Complex for
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a little bit. I was shocked at the return so quick.
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I thought this was going to be more. Majority of
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the season. He played like one or two games out
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here in Complex, moved up to double A and in
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thirty eight bats. Now that he's gotten since his return
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he's hitting over four hundred, already, has multiple homers, multiple
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stolen bases, and somehow it looks like he's added even
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more muscle during this period of time. He looked kind
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of WALCOTTI to me in spring training when I saw him.
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Anything normal, But it looks like he is in this
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period of time where you know, maybe the baseball itself,
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he hasn't been able to do a ton of that souf.
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It looks like he's been working out. He looks big,
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he looks exciting, and he looks all the part of
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a first overall prospect. Again, so we are spoiled right
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now at the top end of the really the top six,
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I think from Made to Devrees, I think Walcott I
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would throw Willets in there, and then obviously and Kate
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Anderson and Seth Hernandez, Like that is such a freaking
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strong portion of the top ten, and it's littered on
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the back end with even more depending who you have,
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from the Painas to the Sirotas to the Florentinos Depaulas,
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like this is a really really strong top ten. The
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level of superstars we're gonna have to see, But I
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think Walcott, I think Made have like super superstar ability.
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Kate Anderson and Seth Hernandez might be absolutely elite. I'm
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always a little torn if I think Devrees is going
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to be like a superstar or do I think he's
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just me a star in this league? But it's just
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really good. And I think Walcott belongs right back in
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that conversation. And I do expect him in the Fall
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League because he missed so much time he was supposed
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to play last year. This is going to be his
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opportunity because I think they're want to give him a shot.
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Walcott could be I'll just say right now, Walcott could
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be your Kevin McGonagall of next year, assuming there's a
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next year. Not the same player, but he plays a
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Double A, he'll probably go to Triple A. He plays
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in the Fall League, probably dominates in the Fall League,
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and then the Rangers give him an opportunity to do
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something out of camp, you know. And what that's going
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to be versus like Recrey seekers at and stuff, we'll see.
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But that's a guy that I think they could just
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fast track in with. Miss Time is important, but Walcott's back,
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and he's back in a super super strong way. I
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don't believe you've got your shares. Things look really really
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good on that front, so big Sebastian Walcott guy. All right,
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I want to remind you guys to check out my
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friend Dennis Sidler at Sid's Grass. Sidsgrass got you covered
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for all the big autograph memorabilia you need. I believe.
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I know he did a Chandler Simpson signing, which you
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should check out, but I think he just told me
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just finished up in a j Ewing and a Luis
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Payna signing. So there you go. There's I mean, aj
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Ewing has been performing as like a top twenty prospect
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if he still qualified. But you got Louis Payne in
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there somewhere between top ten and top twenty for people.
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You guys want to see some of the game's biggest
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prospects stuff, cards, balls, you know, gloves, jerseys, all that
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cool stuff. Go and check it out SIDS graphs on
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the social, SIDS graphs over on eBay. Do it today,
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get some cool stuff. And when I see Dennis next,
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he's got a few things that have got done. I'm
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gonna do a giveaway and do a little giveaway action
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once I see him and have a few of the
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things he's been traveling around the freaking world and doing
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great signings and stuff. I haven't seen him a little bit,
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so I'll pick up some stuff and we'll do a
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giveaway here in Prospect one. Be a ten of fun.
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All right, let's get into the episode. Don't need to
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wait any longer. It is Lucas Morrell from Prospects Live.
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Five prospects that are super intriguing to their value right now,
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and then a handful more that Lucas personally picked out
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that we're going to talk about. It's a very good conversation.
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Like Lucas a lot. I think you were going to
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like him as well, the prospect prof on Twitter and
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his stuff of our Prospects Live. Let's go do it.
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Here is Lucas morel Shay. I like you.
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I like you so much.
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I'm going to make you my partner. All you have
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to do is find the gold and all shared with you.
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Fifty fifty prospect.
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Joining us for the first time on Prospect one. We
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haven't had one of those in quite some time, or
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we've had a brand new guest to the show. He
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luckily is not new to me because I got to
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do a great show with him over on rot to
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Wire with James Anderson. He is Lucas Morrell, the Prospect,
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the prospect Professor. I like that Over Prospects Live. Lukes
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did a great job on that panel. Me and him
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got to talk and I was like, I gotta, I
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gotta get Lucas on. We got to chat about stuff.
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We've had a great time talking on a little bit
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off air before we started to get going. We have
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got some prospects. I've picked out a handful of names
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that I want to get Lucas's takes on. He has
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brought to the table a few players. We're gonna have
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a nice just you know, roundabout back and forth conversation
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around some of these prospects and some of the values.
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But Lucas, welcome to the show, my friend. Thank you
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for taking time.
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So glad to be here. Man, this is awesome. Longtime
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Prospects one listener so excited to jump into some really
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cool conversation today.
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So I do have to say, we were talking off here,
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you did age me. I don't have that. Sometimes I'm
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very insulated in my little world where I'm just doing stuff,
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and I'm doing stuff, and then I like don't think
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because I'm always honored anytime anybody's like, oh, yeah, I
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listened to it, even if they don't listen anymore and
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they think I'm an idiot if they listen for some
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period of time. But like you dropped, everybody, Lucas dropped
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a oh. I listened to Prospect one back in the
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like Christian Robinson interview Julio Rodriguez days and I was like, wow,
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it feels like yesterday to me, but it's like eight
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years ago. That's how like long this has been going around.
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And specifically the Christian Robinson one is what caught my eye.
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Julio was a very big name, and that was like
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a really really good interview time for what I was doing.
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But the Christian Robinson one was I was telling you
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just like off air, just like some of the we
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in all good ways by the way of it, but
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that was like one of the I think the very
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Prospect one lore. I believe the very first actual interview
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I ever did for the show was Junior Spidey. The
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second was Kumar Rocker interview as as a player. By
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the way, the very first guest ever was Jonathan Mayo,
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but then that started to kind of evolve but it
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didn't evolve for a couple like a year or so.
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But Christian Robinson was like right in that little window
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and it was done on Skype where there was none
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of that stuff. So it was very very impressed you
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definitely to know that you had listened. That is a
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true person that has at least caught this podcast in
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some time that you referenced good old k rob who,
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by the way, is still not in the majors. How
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is that possible? He's I mean, we know how why
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it's possible, but he has still not made his major
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league debut. That on this show. We have had prospects
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retire Alex Kiroloff I interviewed and he got to the
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majors and retire. We have still not had Christian Robinson
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make his major league debut. God we need it, Lucas.
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But thank you for that little like time travel you
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gave me.
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Yeah, for sure, this is fun. I mean, especially like
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the prospect kind of arc of their careers, like it
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can be so short, it can also be you know,
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a twenty year major league career, and the mystery of
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it all is kind of what's so interesting on our end,
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so cool to definitely reflect in moments like this and
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think about, you know, the journeys that some of these
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players have been on and how we've followed along for
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the whole time.
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Yeah, I mean, and is the more that you or
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anybody listening like pays attention into that world. You have
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weird moment, you know, mine, mine specifically in different ways
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is weird just because like out here, I have a
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lot of personal interactions. But to your point, you know,
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the Alex Kirlov one is very fascinating to me. I
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mean obviously, like Julio is probably one of the best
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stories I've had because it's like I built a relationship
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with him interview and then now he's just like a
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mega superstar and stuff like that. But like, you know,
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you go down this kind of road of some of
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these guys, Alex Kirloff like is are playing and retiring,
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but also like in meeting them in the fragility, I
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think of like the prospect game that you're bringing up.
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I was thinking about this the other day of the
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story that happened earlier this year with like Humberto Cruise
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with the with the San Diego Padres. Where I saw
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him last year was around him. He never was really pitching,
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he was rehabbing, and then all of a sudden, it's
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like eight months later he is deported because of human trafficking,
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and you're just like, what what Byron Laura who had
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his own personal demons? He was out here, out of
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baseball gone, you know, And it's just like the fragility
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of that from of watching and kind of growing around,
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whether it's fantasy baseball or you just like prospects or
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you know, guys like us we're writing about him, talking
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about him, or meeting them. You are seeing this weird,
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just like time capsule of either future superstars or guys dream.
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Eric Payne has another one of those, like Eric Paineer
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retired to be a rapper or be a singer or
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something like that. And I remember talking to him sitting
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one day and he literally asked me, He's like, do
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you think people are gonna know my name? Because I
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was like, you're gonna be a big deal next year
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because his cards were coming out and he was kind
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of a big thing. And he's like, you think people
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are gonna be calling my name? And I'm like, I do, Eric,
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And he's out of baseball, so you just sit me down.
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This whole mental rabbit hole. Just even saying that that,
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it's like, hopefully this podcast in some elements of that,
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or you know, your writing, or you know the person
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listening that's been playing Fantasy Dynasty Baseball for seven years
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and drafted players. You're seeing guys that don't materialize and
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then do weird stuff. It's kind of the coolest part
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about all of this. In whatever aspect you are involved
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in it you the macro level, the writer, the podcast,
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or the Dynasty player or card collector or whatever it is,
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you sent me down a whole, nice little rabbit hole there.
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No, Yeah, it's awesome. It's almost like you know how
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people have songs that kind of associate with certain memories
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or periods of time in their life. It's like I
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have prospects that it feels that way, Like I know,
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like who the FYPD picks were in like my home
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league when I was like finishing graduate school, or like.
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It's the first one that comes to your mind.
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Like who'sh gosh, the first one is actually Bobachett my
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first FIPD pick ever, first round startup of my home
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Dynasty league. It was my senior year of college and
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I went Bobachett in the first round.
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And and I'm gonna this will be another age Mine
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is Paul Goldschmidt. Was Paul that way way back when
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where in my one of my first dynasties, I'm taking
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David Wright, Jose Reyes. We did a five round keeper
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and my very first round pick or you know what, no,
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I'm sorry. My first round pick I think was Anthony Rizzo,
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and then the second round pick was Paul Goldschmidt, which
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I murdered. I murdered that two rounds probably made me
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want to do the podcasting, and I think the next
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year it was like Springer Baia is like that type
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of stuff, so like I'm almost retiring out of those.
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But as soon as you said that, I was like,
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who's the guy. Who's the if you could think of
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one of those. Bobachet's a pretty good name there.
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Both fun too, because you're exactly right that it starts.
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It's not just that moment, it's like the whole then
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journey of their progression through the through the miners and
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hopefully the majors. I saw him play in New Hampshire
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at Double A and I was like, this is the
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coolest thing. Of all time. I've been following this guy,
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you know, checking box scores for three years, and now
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I'm actually getting to see him live. And I think
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that's something that I would really encourage listeners to do.
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If you haven't gotten out and seen minor league baseball,
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even if you have no idea you know who's playing
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on these teams, you only know the stars, you really
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should go check out a game because you really will
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make those memories and you'll see some of those names three,
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four or five years down the line, and it's just
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going to make baseball that much bitcher of an experience
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for you.
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Yeah, it's like anything in life. It's like building connections.
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When you can start building the connecting pieces to those things,
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it's going to make the game that much more important
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to you. That's why, you know a lot of people
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out here have a you know, a eighty year old
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grandpa that's going to tell you about what the importance
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of what the game was to them and a certain player,
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and you know they get to hold on to that.
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We have this whole nother spectrum, you know, it's probably
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going on thirty years ago, where people are talking prospects.
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We have lots of people that are writing and covering it.
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We all get to go on Twitter now and we
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get to see so many amazing performances that can light
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it up. And then you know, we followed Jacob Misarowski
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or Rock Chelowski gets drafted here and it's like could
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he make the right It's a cool ride, and I
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know it's to get people excited and just freaking out
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about like this was my guy. That guy works out
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and you build that connection. So I love that little
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path that we do. Hopefully that connects with you guys.
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Maybe we'll talk about a few of those players we're
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going to cover today that can build some of those connectors.
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And I think one of the hottest prospects really in
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the Twitter verse, which definitely is not the all verse,
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by the way, but like you know that that is
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where like a lot of like viral conversation is going
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to be built around has been Pitcher Brandon Clark. Brandon Clark,
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former Red Sox prospect who was traded over to the
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Saint Louis Cardinals, was building back up from injury from
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from last season. He's only you know, he's only put
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together three innings so far this year. But you know,
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after that trade. We haven't seen him this whole season,
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kind of out of sight, out of mind. Well, the
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intensity of him coming back was the absolute just firepower
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of a fastball that ended up dropping one oh three
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and then one o two and one on one, And
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there were a couple tweets out there it was like
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first inning, it was nothing but one hundred mile an
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hour fastballs, and you know, that seemed like a little
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bit more of a new development with some of these
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second theories are out there. He was a very exciting
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prospect with the Red Sox and sometimes a little shock
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that he was moved off. But let's talk about him.
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He you know, the era doesn't like play out like
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Super Great obviously because he gave up and ear run.
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He has two starts, he's building up his workload. But
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it's really it's all about the vel, what you think
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the command is and the second theories. Does it play
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out as a starter. I definitely think the Cardinals have done.
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You know, the Cardinals are weird because I felt like
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the Cardinals a couple of years ago. You know, maybe
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you have to track back even more than five. You
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would look at them and you'd be like, that's a
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good pitching more and then you would be maybe a
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little bit indifferent on hitting. And I feel like that
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tide has turned a little bit where I don't want
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to not give them credit for what they do in pitching.
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But I also think there's quite a few failed kind
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of prospects that have Quinn Matthews has fallen apart, Jerpy
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has never really worked out. I mean, there's you know,
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you kind of keep going. There's like a handful of
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these guys that I'm not sure we should prop up
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maybe the pitching development as much as we should have
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in the past. But all of that kind of aside.
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What's the landscape for you On Brandon Clark, there's a
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lot of buzz. I think there's people that might consider
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maybe trading out right now because everybody's talking about him.
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One oh three is that magic Miserowski number that people
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want to start placing. What do you think of Brandon
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Clark as a starter the I'll use the word again,
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the fragility of him and maybe the potential relief that
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he might have. Let's talk about Brandon Clek.
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I like that you started with the organizational context of
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Saint Louis. That's the org fit in terms of prospect development.
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We often talk about it with that FIPD guys, but
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it really does matter throughout the entirety of a prospects
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developmental arc. And I think Clark to the Cardinals is
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interesting kind Bloom I think kind of has an inherent
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level of trust from a lot of people, especially when
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it comes to the developmental side of the game. So
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I think that made a lot of people, myself include
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to feel optimistic when went out and not only sought
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out high upside guys like Brandon Clark in trade, but
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like drafting Liam Doyle right same kind of arm. There's
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some relief risk. It's a really high octane fastball. You're
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hoping that the pitch micks and that the durability hold
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up and allow him to become a starter full time.
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And yeah, Clark, you pointed it out was electric in
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that most recent appearance, hitting one O three gets great extension,
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right over seven feet of extension on the mound. His
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stuff plus ratings are off the charts, not only for
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that for that cutter in the sinker, but also the
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sweeper as well. The stat that stands out to me though,
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and again it's just three innings of work. But forty
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seven point two zone rate, right, he's not locating, he's
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right now just still kind of warming up, trying to
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dial in his stuff a little bit. And it's been
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such a long layoff that that makes total sense. Command
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is always kind of the last thing to come back.
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But I'm more bullish on him being a major league
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arm probably than I was in the middle of his
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injury recovery, seeing him come back with this level of
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this level of intensity, But I wouldn't say that I'm
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confident that he's going to end up as a starter
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full term. That when you look at the delivery, it's
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it's not entirely relieverish, but it's really arm heavy. It's
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going to need I think a little bit of like
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he's going to learn to live not at one oh three, right,
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He's going to have to be a guy who sits
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ninety seven ninety eight, knows how to dial it up,
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knows how to go over the course of five or
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six innings. And I think we're going to get a
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better idea of what that looks like when he's actually
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stretched out to that kind of level this season. And
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I like that they're slow playing it. I think we've
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seen a lot of teams do that with these really
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hard throwing guys, like the Phillies did with Gagewoit earlier
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this year. But I think we're gonna have a much
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better idea of who Brandon Clark is by the middle
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of September.
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Yeah. Really interesting, And I like that you brought it
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back because you started to you created this caveat of
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like you're like, he's a really good major league arm
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and that leaves open the possibility of start a reliever.
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He does have the feel of a guy that they
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probably want to go down the road as best as
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they can to continue him as a as a starting pitcher.
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And I think, like you know, the next probably twelve
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months are going to tell a big story of this.
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I throw this out to people right now, classic example
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of an Arizona Fall League arm. Like, you guys know,
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I'm going to cover the Arizona Fall League extensively as
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I always do, because I'm out there. He is the
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prime example of a player. I mean, what would what
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would be your real big reason against him being in
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the Arizona FA, Like, what is he going to get
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the rest of the year. Is he going to get
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up to his innings from last season. Yeah, okay, he
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had thirty eight in twenty twenty five. You kind of
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press him up. You would want him to grow. That's
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what the fall league is for. You could push him
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to you know, if he finishes this season with twenty five,
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you can send him to the Fall League. Maybe he
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can get up to forty. You want him to build
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if you're ever going to get him as a reliever
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or as a starting pitcher. Otherwise you start to kind
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of go down that path of like do we want
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to have a twenty five year old pitcher that doesn't
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have a career one hundred innings behind him? And then
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you know, and then just things get a little bit
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walking in there. But I think it's the stuff that
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we have to focus on. I'd like a little bit
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in my brain that I really talked myself in as
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time was going on with Jacob Misowski was like a
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just electric you know, fastball and you know he was
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able to throw you know the I mean I think
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at the time it might have been even like cutterish,
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like on the inside, like he's got break. You know,
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it's incredible extension. We saw those things, but it was
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like the walk rates were tremendously bad, you know, the
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walk rate. I wasn't sure that we were going to
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get past the walk rates. So we're going to give
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him every opportunity they can. But like out the gates,
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he looked like you would be an absolutely electric closer.
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And then that all went away and we kind of
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also have now learned that the Milwaukee Brewers may might
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also be near the top the top of the orcs.
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I started Brasdowski talking about this. I think Trevor May
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had asked him, you know, who are the top pitching
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orgs in his mind, in Lance's mind out there right now,
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and you know, through talking around baseball, like he came
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up with four names, and the Brewers are one of those.
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And you look at what they've developed with guys like
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co Harrison and obviously with Misarowski. You know that like
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they were able to find that path to fix. So
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then it comes back to the organization. Do they have
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that will they be able to, you know, find the
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fix for Brandon Clark to make sure that he's pumping
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strikes and he's pushing innings and he can be starter
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at what level? Are you comfortable just moving away from
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the scared the scared side of like it could be
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a little reliever risk or whatever, and just go the talent.
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The arm is too electric that you know, we should
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be pushing up higher. Obviously the finish of the baseball
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community is really hyper focused on this. What I'm getting
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at is how far off or away from, like a
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top one hundred arm do you think Brendan Clark.
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I have him just inside the top two hundred right now.
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I have him at one ninety nine, I think. And
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there are a lot of good arms in that kind
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of one fifty to two fifty range. It's not like
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those are like flyer flyer pitching prospects. These are some
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really like major league caliber guys, I think, which I
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think I think the minor leagues, especially when we add
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in these FIPD names, It's going to be a pretty
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pretty deep, pretty deep prospect list this time of year.
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But I'm just inside the top two hundred. I think
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he's the perfect example of a prospect whose dynasty value
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probably hasn't caught up to where he is in terms
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of his actual recovery right now. Now. He's kind of
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forgotten man probably in some circles, especially more casual leagues.
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I think he's a great trade option for people who
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are not contending, who have some capital to move around
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and try to bring in some some upside swings on
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a prospect or too. I think Brandon Clark is a
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guy that I'd be looking at as like the second
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00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.640
or third piece in a trade if the especially if
718
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:18.440
I'm trading with a contender who's not going to be
719
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.160
patient enough to wait and see if the Brandon Clark
720
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.359
experiment works out, I'm more than happy to take that
721
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:24.400
risk on the right chance that we do get Missierowski
722
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:25.160
in three years.
723
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.119
Yeah, Oh that's it. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. I think
724
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.319
he's in a really weird path because there's sometimes these
725
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.079
dudes where you're just like, is it is he too
726
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.799
volatile that you need to jump on the opportunities when
727
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.039
they pop like this, And it just happens to be
728
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.839
this little moment in time where everyone's like, wow, one
729
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:44.039
oh three, you know, we're not seeing this anywhere else,
730
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:47.039
and it's like everyone, I think he's getting vaulted in
731
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.920
that top one hundred range. If things fall apart, we're
732
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:53.200
back to him being not really not necessarily relevant. But
733
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.519
if things break in the right direction, then selling him
734
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:58.759
at this point would be kind of negative. I'm kind
735
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:00.279
of in I think where you started with it. Like
736
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.839
if I'm a contending team and I got someone that
737
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.160
is hot on the streets for Brandon Clark and that
738
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.199
is kind of the big piece that maybe sends me over.
739
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.239
Maybe if it's even like an older arm or something like,
740
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:11.920
I'm not I guess what I'm saying is I'm not
741
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:14.199
afraid to move off of Brandon Clark. I'm not saying
742
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.519
that is the movie you have to make or it
743
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:18.800
will even look right at the end. But I think
744
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:22.880
if you take what I think is probably outside the
745
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.760
top one fifty type of arm and you can get
746
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.079
somewhere inside the top one hundred, then that might be
747
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.079
like a move to make a really good So I
748
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.960
guess we're like, I'm kind of like not one hundred
749
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:34.480
percent buying he's gonna take that m Rowski run here.
750
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:36.719
I think I'm gonna get to see him here in
751
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:39.639
a couple months in the Arizona Fall League. But it's exciting.
752
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.159
It's a great fastball. To me, it kind of screams relief,
753
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.760
and that is maybe like a big future closer. You know,
754
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.519
if you have really great extension. I mean that's gonna
755
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:49.960
be the big key is like what does he do
756
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:51.800
through the third or fourth inning? Like, if you've got
757
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.599
really great extension, a fastball and some breaking pitches and
758
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:56.239
they could just get you through five, they're going to
759
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:58.320
develop you as a starter forever. But there's also an
760
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:01.199
argument if this guy's just gonna break part after, you know,
761
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:02.960
once you get into the third inning, second time through
762
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:06.320
the order, take that elite extension, take that elite freaking
763
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.840
fastball and put it in the ninth and close it down.
764
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:10.280
And that's what the Cardinals can do.
765
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:12.519
Yeah, for sure. And I should clarify I don't think
766
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:13.559
he's taking busy ASKI.
767
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:15.119
Okay, Okay, yeah, yeah.
768
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.400
I think it would be very unlikely that that's what happens.
769
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:19.360
But I think he's the kind of prospect I think
770
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.320
you said it perfectly. If you're a contender and you
771
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.599
have him, perfect time to move him now that he's hot,
772
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:25.880
his name is out there, he's looking really good. If
773
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.360
you're a rebuilder and you're comfortable taking on the risk,
774
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:29.960
I think he's not a bad name to do that
775
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.960
with either. I think it kind of fits both sides
776
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.239
of that of that coin but I certainly don't think
777
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.360
he's a safe bet starter. I would agree with you.
778
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.519
I think he's probably destined to be a high leverage crack.
779
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.719
The other start I want to talk about I think
780
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.760
I've talked about on here. I do the prospect segments
781
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:47.800
on Fantasy Pro, so sometimes I get kind of lost
782
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:50.000
in what I've talked about. But I wanted to talk
783
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.079
and get your opinion because I don't feel like I've
784
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.280
talked to a lot of other people about Nate Payne.
785
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:57.440
And Nate Payne Miami Marlins starting pitcher in their minor
786
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.840
league system. Hi a twenty year old, big bodied guy.
787
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:04.480
Statistically it's a solid seed. Is not picking up wins,
788
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.079
but that's minor league's over one hundred strikeouts and seventy
789
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:11.639
eight innings three eight ERA great stuff. But what has
790
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:13.639
really stood out is when you start to look at
791
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:17.920
the scope of the minor leagues, his combo this is
792
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.119
this is something I've absolutely loved that I'm trying to share.
793
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.159
He has the best and I want to take away
794
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.639
complex in Dominican Summer League because short temple size of
795
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.440
numbers kind of get just wonky and stuff like that.
796
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:31.840
I mean, frankly, maybe I shouldn't when you have Jonathan
797
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.320
Swinsky with Angels, who has the best K minus walk
798
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.960
qualified K minus walk percentage in the minor leagues. But
799
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:41.280
if you look to full season ball, he is twenty
800
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:44.280
years old at he's gone from A to A ball
801
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:48.320
he has the I guess of everybody, the fourth best,
802
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:52.079
but a full season he's got the best K minus
803
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.480
walk percentage of twenty five point four percent, a well
804
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:59.039
over thirty three percent K percentage. But on top of it,
805
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:03.159
he's also got one of the highest swinging strike rates.
806
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:06.280
He is up there. Actually think it just John wats
807
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.360
Brown just jumped him. But prior to this, like a
808
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.719
day ago, he had the highest full season ball swinging
809
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.440
strike rate to go with that as well, at over
810
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:18.159
seventeen percent. And I don't I don't think we talk
811
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:20.760
about Nate Pain a whole bunch, And you know, I mean,
812
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.239
sometimes you can get even when you're doing like hyper
813
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:25.280
focus on this and hyper focusing on this stuff like
814
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.000
gauge Shafe God who is a gauge Statafford stay Ford,
815
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:36.159
I'm Standifer, Yeah, Standifer, like popped on numerically and like
816
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.800
K percentages and stuff like that. Last year you know,
817
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:40.760
where's the stuff and where do we really like buying
818
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.719
into him this year? So just because it's like high
819
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.480
K minus walk and high swinging strike rate, young guy,
820
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.000
doesn't mean we need to vault him. But I don't
821
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.760
feel like the whole point of that is we talk
822
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.079
enough about Nate Pain and the season he's having is
823
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.280
really really impressive, and the Marlins have done a pretty
824
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.840
decent job in their pitching development. So where are you
825
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.000
at on Nate Pain right now?
826
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.880
Nate Pain's fascinat He's I believe closer to the two
827
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:04.519
fifty side of my rankings. I think he's in the
828
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:06.360
two thirties, like two thirty two to two thirty three,
829
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:10.920
somewhere around there. The Marlins, going back to kind of
830
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.440
our organizational conversation, like with Saint Louis and with Clark,
831
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.920
the Marlins I trust more with pitching development, I would
832
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:17.920
say I think they've shown more success in recent years,
833
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:21.719
basically ever since Trevor Rodgers right, just kind of maximizing
834
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:25.920
especially these sort of lower stuff, higher pitchability guys. I
835
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:27.280
think they tend to do a lot better with that
836
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.119
kind of profile. And that's kind of where I'm at
837
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:30.880
with Nate Payne, like when you look under the hood
838
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.400
the single A. Thankfully we have some some TrackMan data
839
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:36.119
on his pitches, and I mean he sits ninety two
840
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.480
ninety three does not get the elite extension that Clark does,
841
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.840
but what he does get is an insanely high amount
842
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:43.360
of chase. Like when he was in single A, it
843
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.480
was a thirty six point seven percent chase rate, forty
844
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.519
one point six percent with rate. Those numbers look similarly
845
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.320
good now now that he's up at high A as well.
846
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:52.599
I think it's a yeah, like you said, swinging strike
847
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:56.559
rate is off the charts, basically seventeen percent. I think
848
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:58.719
he's he's a pitcher, not a thrower, and I like that.
849
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.039
I think that's a more sustainable profile long term. I
850
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.679
think the Marlins have proven success with this. I kind
851
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.000
of want to see it at double A, you know,
852
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:06.760
the show me level of the miners. I really want
853
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:08.920
to see him do this against hitters who we know
854
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:13.519
are closer to big league caliber. But he is. He's twenty, right,
855
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.239
he was a prep draftee. So this isn't like a
856
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.559
college twenty four year old bullying eighteen year olds, Like
857
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:20.159
this is an age appropriate level for him. And I
858
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.559
think the Marlins have also shown, like with Carson Millbrant,
859
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:26.440
that they are making strides and helping these guys develop
860
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.199
command as they move up the ladder, and I think
861
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.559
that hopefully double A will be around the corner for
862
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:33.000
Nate Payne, maybe able we turn the calendar into August
863
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:34.639
and then I think we're really going to get a
864
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.159
sense in that month about is this a top one hundred.
865
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:42.039
Dollar really really great camp bringing in Carson Millbrand because
866
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:43.880
I feel like it was a guy who was in
867
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.800
Arizona Follig last year who didn't feel like have really
868
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.400
any juice coming in or anything like that, and then
869
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:53.159
as he moved higher into the system really was really
870
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:56.000
able to show off. And I don't know, I'm always
871
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:57.760
want to kind of be like a pitch ability guy.
872
00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:59.880
Hilariously too, by the way, Nate Payne to Brandon cl
873
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.519
I kind of feel like two completely opposite ends of
874
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.840
the spectrum. The exciting piece of Clark in the strikeou
875
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:07.880
Let's get you there. But you know, Nate Payne has
876
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:11.039
been a swinging straight guy the entire season and just
877
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:13.199
wanted to throw that out to people. When you start
878
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.239
to put you know, because you get you get a
879
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:18.239
little bit wonked out when you start looking at Dominican,
880
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:21.440
Like I said, Dominican and complex numbers and stuff like that.
881
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:23.440
But then you start piecing some of this out and
882
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.599
you also take away some of the age bias or
883
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:28.119
you know, hey, you got a twenty three year old
884
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.000
at double A or something like that, and you look
885
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.079
and it's like, well, what are the guys twenty and underdoing?
886
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:34.559
And it's like he has been one of the more prolific,
887
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.480
you know, twenty one in under pitchers that have even
888
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:39.480
gotten to high A. And then you know, I mean,
889
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:41.440
I thought there's been a couple and I call him
890
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:43.360
almost a pop up ish type of guy. I thought
891
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.599
there's been a couple quote end quote to you know,
892
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:48.199
a couple people that'll be like, well, there's not a
893
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:50.480
pop up, but you know, like the Joseph Zurwa was
894
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.400
another one of those guys, and Stanford is kind of
895
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:54.079
back on it. Not a pop up, but from last
896
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:56.280
year he was one of those Nate Payne, I feel
897
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:57.840
like someone we don't talk about a bunch of really
898
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:01.000
good breakdown there. Let's get to some hitting. Though this
899
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:05.679
is not an unknown name for anybody. Everybody knows this name,
900
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:07.840
but I really would like to get your take on
901
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.639
Joshua Bias. Joshua Bias is on the precipice of the majors. Obviously,
902
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:16.280
the home runs have been prolific, He's gone from anywhere
903
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:20.280
as he's the top ten prospect I think as the
904
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.360
strikeouts and that's kind of the clear issue here have
905
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.079
become more prevalent, have moved him down. I know James
906
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:27.320
was really big on him, but you know everyone has
907
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.360
been like, what what is wrong? What more do you
908
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.239
need to do? How can we look at a twenty
909
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.920
nine home or fifteen stolen based season and say we
910
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.400
don't get this to the majors for a contender. And
911
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.039
the clear answer to that has been a really really
912
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:44.519
bad strikeout rate, a really big whiff rate, and clearly
913
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:47.679
a fear for a team that has maybe gone through
914
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:50.320
this was guys like Jordan Walker who have had to
915
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.760
bring different types of baths, but bring up and down
916
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.320
the Victor Scott's of the world, and they're making do
917
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.360
him in. Nate Church is having a good season, But
918
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.119
where you at on the value in the long term
919
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.880
sustainability for Joshua Bias Because you know, from a statistical
920
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:08.280
minor league standpoint, he has had an absolutely ridiculous season.
921
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.920
But I feel like we have now entered limbo with him.
922
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:14.280
All the hype is just kind of somehow we have
923
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:19.320
prospect fatigue or like the you know, the post hYP
924
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.679
prospect hype and the guy hasn't even gotten to the
925
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:23.719
majors yet, and it's like we don't get that that often.
926
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:28.199
So how concerned should we be about the strikeouts overall?
927
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:32.119
I would be more concerned with the strikeouts, the contact rates,
928
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.559
the wift rates if we hadn't already seen the Cardinals
929
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.440
work really deliberately with him to improve in this area
930
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:40.960
earlier in his minor league career. Right Like, this was
931
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.519
the book on him, you know, back in twenty twenty two,
932
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.719
when he had a thirty six point one percent strikeout
933
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.000
rate between the complex and low A, right like, he
934
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:50.440
was going to be a guy that wasn't even going
935
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:52.440
to make the higher levels of the minor leagues just
936
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.159
because he wasn't able to make enough contact. He was
937
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:56.960
striking out a third of the time, and he flipped
938
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.239
a switch last year. Right twenty twenty four, his strikeout
939
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.039
rate was thirty five ero point five percent last year
940
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.519
between high and double A cut that down to twenty
941
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:08.559
point eight. That is unbelievably impressive, and I think that's
942
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:12.719
a developmental success story for the Cardinals. It's obviously inflated
943
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:14.400
back up this year. It's back up to twenty nine
944
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.000
point nine percent on the year, but since June first,
945
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:19.400
it's down to twenty six percent. So he has made
946
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.480
some improvements as the season's gone along, as he's gotten
947
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.679
used to Triple A pitching because his first exposure to
948
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:26.920
the level, the kind of mental like fantasy comp that
949
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:28.519
I've had in my head, even though they're very different
950
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.519
players just thinking like about value is and big league
951
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:34.000
production is going to talk about a comy right Like
952
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.599
we've seen that guys. We've seen that guys with this
953
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.639
like seventy to eighty grade game power. And I do
954
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:42.880
think that's what Biaz has. He has absolute monster tanks
955
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:45.239
like off guys like Thomas White, Like he's hitting real,
956
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:48.280
real big ley home runs. I think he's going to
957
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.679
be able to do that pretty much right away. I
958
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:52.639
think the batting average is going to be ugly, especially
959
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:54.840
the first year, especially probably the beginning of next year.
960
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.639
I think the steels are going to be more than
961
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.639
maybe people anticipate because he's not like inherently very fast
962
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:02.440
guy as much as he's a smart base runner. But
963
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:05.199
I really do think there's a thirty home run fifteen
964
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:07.760
to twenty steel back for multiple big league years in here.
965
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:09.800
Even if we don't see the kind of like fully
966
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.280
optimized version of that, and even if it never really
967
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:14.480
becomes more than a two thirty hitter, I think we
968
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.920
get that come twenty twenty seven, maybe twenty twenty eight. Obviously,
969
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.400
you know, blockout and everything pending. But I think everybody
970
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.599
doubted that Murakami was going to be valuable at all.
971
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:25.719
Not everybody, but a lot of people were skeptical because
972
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.679
of the clear concern of the contact rates, the with rates,
973
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:32.239
the strikeout rates. And I think his eye opening performance
974
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:33.599
this year has made a lot of people a lot
975
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.599
more comfortable with that kind of high risk, high reward profile.
976
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.360
So I'm a bias apologist. I think he's going to
977
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:40.800
make it work. I think we've seen him make the
978
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:42.840
developmental tweaks, like like I said, over the course of
979
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:46.400
his minor league journey, and I think there's there's nothing
980
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.079
that I've seen shows me that he's going to be
981
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.800
a guy who lets this like become what defines him
982
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:53.599
as a player, and that he just is perennially a
983
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:55.400
thirty five percent strike out rate in the major sky.
984
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:56.440
I don't think that's going to happen.
985
00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:01.360
What's really interesting a couple of things. Anybody that heard me,
986
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:04.280
like the goofy things that I do sometimes where I
987
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:06.400
like have weird conversations with players or I pick up
988
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.599
little things. The one that really stuck this year that
989
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.559
turned me on to Murakami was talking to Anthony Kay.
990
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.599
And I mentioned this on other podcasts, but Anthony Kay
991
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.039
was the one that was just like, dude, I've faced
992
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:21.000
him more than anybody here has faced him, and trust me,
993
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:23.599
like because I asked him about the high velo stuff
994
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:25.800
and He's like, it's not gonna be a problem. It's
995
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:28.480
not a problem, like he is now. The only thing
996
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.199
when I look at this, I'll give you a comp
997
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:35.239
to a different White Sox is this screams like a
998
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.519
little bit clse to Montgomery to me, and I'll tell
999
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.320
you why. The one thing, because I've had a comparison
1000
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:43.320
of a different prospect to Murakami. The one thing that's
1001
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:45.519
missing from this because and by the way, on I
1002
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.639
will look at you and I are staring at prospects
1003
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:49.960
of want page for him at Triple A, and you know,
1004
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.599
it's like ninetieth percentiles what you would expect nineth ev
1005
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.519
barrel hard hit it's all great. Nineteen percent barrel rate,
1006
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.800
fifty two percent hard hit rate, ridiculous average looks great.
1007
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:03.639
All that looks good. He's pulling ball in the air,
1008
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:06.320
blah blah blah. But not only is he striking out,
1009
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.719
which we know twenty nine percent, we know he's gonna whiff.
1010
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:13.800
The difference between him and Marrakami is he's chasing MURCAMMI
1011
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.719
doesn't chase. And the prospect that I have comped to
1012
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:21.079
Murakami is as Merlin val does. Because Mount Valdez has
1013
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:24.760
a very similar profile with the same he doesn't chase.
1014
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:26.840
So it's like you're not gonna beat him out of
1015
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:29.159
the zone. That doesn't mean you can't get him great
1016
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.440
stuff in the zone that he's then gonna start, you know,
1017
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:34.400
banging around and he's wrong pitch type and stuff like that,
1018
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:36.519
Like he's kind of shown that before, but he had
1019
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:40.039
shown lower strikeout rates and inability to not chase, which
1020
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:42.599
is like Murakami. So when I look at Baias, it
1021
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.000
kind of has a little bit of a feel like
1022
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.360
of like a Colson Montgomery, and we don't want our
1023
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:49.039
hitters to be two thirty. But he's got all the
1024
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:51.519
skills and the planet to you know, we're seeing those guys,
1025
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.960
we're seeing like Jazz is doing it. Jazz is putting
1026
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.920
up ridiculous counting stat numbers with really bad batting average.
1027
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.920
That might be bias. I'm a little worried it could
1028
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:03.440
go tiny bit the route of like a journal Walker,
1029
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:05.840
where you know, if he goes into a slump. The
1030
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.920
Cardinals pulled the trigger on Walker weirdly early. They've got
1031
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.960
kind of a glut of outfielders to choose from. I
1032
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.199
do think he's going to be talented. Where do you
1033
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.719
rank him, though, Like you said, you're an apologist. Where
1034
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:19.559
do you think he sits among the prospect world right now?
1035
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:21.360
Is he a top five? Is he top ten? Is
1036
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:22.719
he top twenty? Which one?
1037
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:24.679
I'm pretty close to where James is at. I have
1038
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:27.719
him at seven overall, So my top seven is Jesus,
1039
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:31.920
made Leo DeVries, Josewea, Paula, Kate Anderson, Mike Serota at five,
1040
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:34.400
Eli Willits at six, and then Bias at seven. I
1041
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.519
would rather have josh Ua Bias than that next kind
1042
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.679
of pitcher crop of like Sethornandez Ryan Sloane.
1043
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:42.800
Oh interesting, I mean I think I might literally have
1044
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:46.679
these guys like Ryan Sloan and him next to each other.
1045
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:48.559
But I've got Ryan Sloan and Seth Nandez Like I
1046
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:52.039
got a pretty big gap between those two guys. But yeah,
1047
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.920
I think Joshua Bias is like a really fascinating conversation
1048
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:58.199
in the kind of the same respective if we're looking
1049
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:01.039
at player now. I didn't actually have any theme to this,
1050
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:02.800
but you know, if you're looking at like these really
1051
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:05.880
hot starts, your belief or your lack of belief can
1052
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.199
maybe be why you want to make this turn and
1053
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:10.920
make a trade and get out, or you know, optimize
1054
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:13.239
your trade value if you're making a run in the season.
1055
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.360
You know, Brandon Clark, I think is a player that
1056
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.840
I want to take advantage of doing that. Nate Pain
1057
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:19.840
is kind of a player that you know, you make
1058
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.920
some actually compelling arguments that maybe you you know, you
1059
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:24.559
want to take to the rest of your league. Hey,
1060
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:26.559
look at these really great you know, swinging strike and
1061
00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:28.920
everything like that, but it's like the below really isn't
1062
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:32.000
that good. He's he's unproven, you're telling yourself and you
1063
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.559
could sell him high. Bias has got a little bit
1064
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.920
of that ind where I think statistically it's so exciting.
1065
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.320
He is going to have a big kind of a
1066
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:42.599
spotlight on him when he does get called up, because
1067
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.000
we've all talked about him, but we're in this weird
1068
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.559
kind of fatigue thing where it's like, Okay, he was great,
1069
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.480
he's great, Now, what the hell's going on? Why is
1070
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:50.960
he not up? We need to get him to the majors.
1071
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.039
I'm a little ware the strikeouts are going to take
1072
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.360
part early on and he's not going to get to shine.
1073
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:58.719
So you know, I'm a little bit more open to
1074
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:04.199
making a bigger raid, but you know it might like
1075
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.400
all bounce back really quick and early on, and that
1076
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:08.719
could be next season. You'd hate to kind of lose
1077
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:13.280
that opportunity. An older player that is one of my favorites.
1078
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:17.800
He was in the Arizona Fall League last year. Him
1079
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.960
and as Merlin were a couple of the favorite guys here.
1080
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:26.400
Owen Ayers has had a lot of attention because of
1081
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:29.719
his age, But you know fairly enough if you take
1082
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.840
a look and you go, well, I mean the time
1083
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:34.119
that he's been here is just drafted in twenty twenty four.
1084
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:38.000
Age is but a number, my friend, is as much
1085
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.320
as we do pick that apart, I'm not sure this
1086
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.039
is the fairest spot to do that of any prospect.
1087
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:46.920
And as has dominated twenty two homers, seven stolen bases,
1088
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:50.840
a three fifteen average, over four hundred OBP so far
1089
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.400
this season, the age stands out to a lot of people.
1090
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:57.440
But do you think it's fair to pick apart that
1091
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.719
for a guy that has really dominated at this level?
1092
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.280
Do you think the value looks like him looking at
1093
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.639
this landscape because he is doing nothing but raking so far,
1094
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:06.920
and he has now up to triple A.
1095
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.719
He's a really hard evaluation for me because I'm with you.
1096
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:12.719
And then I like the profile as a hitter, I
1097
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.199
like it a lot. I mean, especially in an OBP league,
1098
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.119
if you're going to get a catcher who's walking fifteen
1099
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:19.119
percent of the time, I mean, this is just unbelievable.
1100
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:21.760
I think the pan catcher that's caught on I mean
1101
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.760
to jump in you, but they Blazerio's didn't work like
1102
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:27.480
a Maya's always right, Like they haven't really gone down
1103
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:31.039
the route of like really finding someone that blocks a
1104
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:33.880
player like Airs to not get an opportunity. And that
1105
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:36.599
is the thing that Airs is specifically done uniquely is
1106
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:40.480
when given that opportunity, he has taken it and run
1107
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:43.840
since I mean, really, I guess it's like this year
1108
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.480
the Fall League he really dominated. He was injured last year,
1109
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:48.320
missed some time, but like since the Fall League he
1110
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:50.199
has just gone nuts.
1111
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:52.760
I'm so glad you brought up to Biastero's point. I
1112
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.639
actually wrote up Airs for my article of a Prospects
1113
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:57.360
Live last week, and so the stat is a little
1114
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.960
maybe outdated over the last few days. But he's thrown
1115
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.039
out at the time this was as of Monday, he
1116
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:04.199
threw He's thrown out twenty seven point five percent of
1117
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.360
all base runners this year. That's at the same level
1118
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:09.000
as Kyle Teal, same level as Samuel Bissio. They're both
1119
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.320
twenty seven percent guys. Like that was the knock on
1120
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.039
Biasteros is he just was a liability behind the plate
1121
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.719
and he needed to find room for the bat. Tough
1122
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:17.679
to do with Pedro Ramirez and these other names kind
1123
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.480
of floating around airs can As has not a cannon,
1124
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:22.079
but he's got a good arm behind the plate, so
1125
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.159
I can see them finding world where he sticks there.
1126
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.079
The triple A numbers don't look amazing in that five
1127
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.239
game sample. I think it's been kind of a rough
1128
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:32.239
sort of introduction to the level for him. But the
1129
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.159
one thing that stands up just in that five games, right,
1130
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.199
a ninety four percent zone contact rate. That's going to
1131
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:38.239
regress a little bit, but if he's you know, above
1132
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:40.639
eighty four eighty five percent, that's really solid for a
1133
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:41.960
guy who gets the ball in the air as much
1134
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.000
as he does, for guy who hits with as much
1135
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:47.880
power as he does. I'm not thinking that he's going
1136
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.280
to be like the next Shay Langliers or anything, but
1137
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:52.840
I do think if I was going to bet on
1138
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:56.079
anyone in the CUB system, barring a trade, to actually
1139
00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:58.840
see a significant amount of time next season a catcher
1140
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.000
for them, I think he's he's the in house bet.
1141
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:04.639
Oh yeah, that's yeah. I like that too, because you know,
1142
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:06.840
I'm building him up a little bit in that Like,
1143
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:09.000
I don't know if I have the gret, like, where
1144
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:10.880
do you have him? He is? He cracked the top
1145
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:13.360
one hundred. Is he cracked the top fifty? Is he
1146
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:15.760
but one fifty? Guy? Like, where do you end up
1147
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:16.280
having him?
1148
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:18.280
He's between one fifty and one seventy five. I think
1149
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:19.840
he's in the one seventies for me right now.
1150
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.960
Okay, Yeah, so I think I've got him. Not looking
1151
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:24.480
at it right now and I think I closed it,
1152
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:26.320
but I think I've got him in like the one
1153
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:28.760
twenty five to one fifty range, like right in that
1154
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:33.199
general spot which doesn't really light up any boards necessarily
1155
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:35.159
for people, but like to your point, like I think
1156
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.719
from that opportunity standpoint, like we can see it. We
1157
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:39.639
can see that it's there. And also, you know, when
1158
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:41.880
he was in the Fall League, I gotta go back
1159
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:43.880
and look at my video that I've got for him,
1160
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:46.800
But just like the approach was great, you know, the
1161
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:49.960
average TV was really good. He was making solid contact,
1162
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.239
barreling the ball a whole bunch, and he was really
1163
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:54.519
getting that held against him. When people are you know,
1164
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:57.280
starting at Kevin McGonagall and as Merlin Valdez going off that,
1165
00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.880
it's like, well, this is this twenty four year old
1166
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:01.599
maybe he was twenty five even at the time, twenty
1167
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:03.480
four year old guy in the arison A fall league. Ah,
1168
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:05.480
he is washed up, and it's like, no, dude, he'd
1169
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.639
been playing professional baseball for a year and he'd a
1170
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:10.880
year and a half and just got that opportunity out there.
1171
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:13.239
I just think he's just a really sneaky guy to
1172
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:14.960
get in on right now. I don't play in a
1173
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:17.440
lot of two catcher leagues. It's single catcher stuff, but
1174
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:19.800
I feel like it's one that you can get thrown
1175
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:22.760
in and we have had so many just discipline. I
1176
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:24.719
feel like anytime we get in this path where we
1177
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:27.960
want to fault catchers up and you know, put them
1178
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:29.840
on a pedestal and stuff. I mean, look at von Lackey.
1179
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:33.079
Von Lacky's going to push the limits. You drafted him
1180
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:35.599
when we did the for FYPD. You know he's going
1181
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:37.159
to push the limits. Because it's like, this is a
1182
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.039
guy that can do everything. But I kind of look
1183
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:42.039
at Owen Ayers and I'm like, this is also a
1184
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.760
guy that can He can run, He hits for average,
1185
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.119
he gets on base, he doesn't strike out a whole lot.
1186
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:49.480
The triple A data doesn't look great in the small
1187
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:51.760
sample size, but I think he's just one of those
1188
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:53.559
like sneaky investments right now.
1189
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:56.400
Yeah, last thing on airs is you mentioned at the top.
1190
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.400
I forgot to touch on the age point. Right, he's
1191
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.880
twenty five. That is going to turn some people off
1192
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:02.960
when they think about dynasty investment. But if you think
1193
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:05.880
about it from real life, just logistical standpoint, the Cubs
1194
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.840
are incentivized to get some big league value out of
1195
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:09.719
this guy, right. It doesn't do that any good to
1196
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.239
keep him until he's twenty seven toiling away in Triple A.
1197
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.440
If he looks like he can handle the defense, if
1198
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:16.239
he looks like he can handle himself at the plate,
1199
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:18.480
they're going to give him an opportunity, I think potentially
1200
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:20.039
even at the back end cup of coffee of this
1201
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.559
year in September, and I think he's going to get
1202
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:24.599
an audition basically, and it's going to be an opportunity
1203
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:28.079
for him to lay claim to at least a timeshare
1204
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:29.760
behind the plate going into next year. And I think
1205
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:31.679
that's a solid place to be for a back end
1206
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:34.480
top two hundred, top one fifty prospect. I think that's
1207
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:36.119
a pretty good shot at major league value.
1208
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.360
All Right, one more for me that I want to
1209
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:39.719
get your take on. And then you've got a couple
1210
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:43.639
of guys. Here is a Tate self scene who has
1211
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:47.400
absolutely obliterated the minors so far. He's up to High A,
1212
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:49.960
the nineteen year old that has twelve homers, forty five
1213
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.960
stolen bases two seventy seven average, which is fine, but
1214
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:57.440
an over four hundred OBP so far. It is nothing
1215
00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:00.079
but highlights across the board as he's moved from A
1216
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:04.000
to High A High A has had it's stalling points,
1217
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.559
but you're still seeing some high counting stats. He's really
1218
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:09.440
being moved aggressive through their system, which is great to
1219
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:11.519
see as a young guy. I mean, Braves used to
1220
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:14.000
do that, I think, even to a little bit more
1221
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:16.880
of an aggressive degree. His brother plays for the Cubs.
1222
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:19.800
By the way, speaking of the Cubs', what's your take
1223
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:24.320
on what Tate south Stein is doing and what level
1224
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:27.920
you think it should be compared against with some of
1225
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:31.199
these guys obviously, I mean, like from a just a
1226
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:34.800
pure statistical standpoint, I could see people just looking at
1227
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.800
what he's doing aged to level as a nineteen year
1228
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:42.960
old and pushing him aggressively up systems, even against guys
1229
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:44.840
that have been like Michael Royo is the guy that
1230
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:46.880
comes to my mind who's like, maybe he feels a
1231
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:48.760
little boring and stuff like that. He's been around for
1232
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:50.760
a little bit, but it's just like he hits for
1233
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:53.440
high average. He's going to be like a fifteen, fifteen,
1234
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.239
twenty twenty guy. But south Stein is showing off like
1235
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.199
ridiculous stolen base numbers that are being paired with power
1236
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.519
and actually is a little reminiscent of Eli Willetts. If
1237
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:03.679
we want to be honest here with some of the
1238
00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:06.280
batting average, do you think that's fair? Should we be
1239
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.320
looking at Tates Elstein in a similar Eli Willetts lens?
1240
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:12.880
Or is it, you know, maybe a little pump the
1241
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:15.239
brakes on what we're going to get as he continues
1242
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:16.079
to move through the system.
1243
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:17.519
I wondered if you were going to mention Will it's
1244
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:19.079
when you were talking about who we should hold him
1245
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.960
up next to, sort of comparatively. I'm not quite there yet,
1246
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.159
but I will say so if I'm a Joshua BIA's apologist,
1247
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:27.480
I actually o Tates out the scene an apology because
1248
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:29.480
I was horribly low on him out of the FYPD
1249
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:33.119
last year. I really didn't think particularly the swing. I
1250
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:34.559
didn't think the swing was going to work I don't
1251
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.239
know if you've seen Combine footge of him from last
1252
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.840
year or some high school footage, but I would encourage
1253
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:40.400
your listeners to go check it out just to see
1254
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:42.559
the drastic difference that the Braves have been able to
1255
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.000
make with his mechanics. He was starting with this kind
1256
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.480
of like Jeff Bagwell that well out in front thing,
1257
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:49.880
huge hitch in the load. I was like, this kid's
1258
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:51.519
not going to be able to catch up to velocity
1259
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:53.400
even at the lower levels. His brother, I think, ran
1260
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.639
into a similar struggle in Chicago with his first year
1261
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.519
because they had kind of similar mechanical setups. The Braves
1262
00:56:58.599 --> 00:57:01.760
quieted all that down already preloaded. Now his hands are
1263
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:03.559
in a great position, he's getting around to the ball,
1264
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:06.320
he's pulling the ball. I am really really impressed with
1265
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.679
braves hit development this year. I think Tate Southazine is
1266
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:10.800
not getting the shiney needs because of how good Eric
1267
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:14.320
Cartman has been, how good John Heel has looked. I'm
1268
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:16.360
not quite Eli Willitts. I think I'm just outside the
1269
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:18.320
top one hundred with Taits Saveazeene, He's around like one
1270
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:22.320
to fifteen, one eighteen somewhere around there. I think the
1271
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.280
speed it looks like it's going to play at the
1272
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:27.079
big league level. I think the power probably ends up
1273
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:29.239
being more like a fifteen home run guy. I have
1274
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:31.800
some concerns about the minor league baseball this year, just
1275
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:33.920
like a huge jump and slogging numbers. We're seeing a
1276
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:36.400
pretty much across the levels until people get to triple A.
1277
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:38.840
So I'm not sold on I'm not sold on him
1278
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:41.079
being like a thirty homer pace guy. I really don't
1279
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.159
see that. Just the physicality. I'm just not sure it's
1280
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:45.719
ever going to be there. But I think there's a
1281
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:47.800
real chance that he can be a ten to fifteen
1282
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:50.440
home run contributor while also swiping you forty bases as
1283
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.079
a big leaguer and hitting for a much better banning
1284
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:54.920
average than I would have predicted six months ago.
1285
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:57.480
Yeah, and watching I put up here just a Twitter
1286
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:00.199
video from pipeline, you can see that swing, you know,
1287
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.880
you can see kind of I can see a natural
1288
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:05.480
ability to want to play across the body, but getting
1289
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:07.119
the ball in the air, you can see the hitch
1290
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:09.639
is kind of calm down. And you know that one
1291
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:13.159
I think was like an opposite field hit here. I'm
1292
00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:15.599
always I'm kind of with you a little bit on
1293
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:18.639
like the ball on like what what the ball is
1294
00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:20.840
doing across the minor leagues, and I think they change
1295
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:22.360
it out when it gets to the higher levels. It's
1296
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:24.599
a guy I'd love to see and like the Fall league,
1297
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:26.519
you know, just to see if that kind of pairs
1298
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:28.440
back down the ball does seem to be jumping a
1299
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.679
little bit. I don't know if I have quite as
1300
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:34.679
high expectations in the power department, but to be fair,
1301
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:36.199
that was always kind of my little knock with like
1302
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:37.719
Eli Willetts, Like I was like, I don't know, the
1303
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:40.400
power is going to be wrong, you know, but like
1304
00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:42.519
as we're getting through the minor leagues, I still think
1305
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:44.440
I have some questions about what that power is going
1306
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:47.920
to look like. But south Stein's got the stolen base marker,
1307
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:50.039
and if if he can maintain a higher average and
1308
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.000
he can get I mean, the obp's great, but it
1309
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:53.679
like he could be a number two hitter for a
1310
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:56.519
team and he's going to steal thirty bases and maybe
1311
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:59.960
just maybe the path And you got to think about this.
1312
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.400
It's like a CJ. Abrams, you know. CJ. Abrams was
1313
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:06.079
a slow burn of like building the average up, building
1314
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:07.760
the power up is really more of the take while
1315
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:09.920
stealing bases and scoring runs. And now look at him,
1316
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:11.559
you know we're talking. He's like a top ten guy
1317
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:14.639
and the power seems unquestioned, you know how to get
1318
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:17.039
But he had to like overtime build up that barrel rate.
1319
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:18.559
And it's like I kind of think it might be
1320
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:21.199
similar in that range. But that's a great sell for people,
1321
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:23.400
and I think people are buying into him. You said
1322
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.719
he's just outside the top one hundred. What do you
1323
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:27.360
think it's going to take for you to get him
1324
00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:31.800
to be a top thirty five prospects top thirty five?
1325
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:35.119
What would that look like? Just in your your world?
1326
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.599
Is it he needs another year? He needs to put
1327
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:39.840
up a twenty forty season. He needs to put up
1328
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:41.960
a twenty forty season, and then he needs to start
1329
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.679
out next year kind of hot? Like what is it
1330
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:48.239
that gets there? And how feasible is that? Because I
1331
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:50.400
think people have to make the decisions on like am
1332
00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:53.159
I we can't wait until the guy does the thing.
1333
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:56.039
We have to like future project and is it worth
1334
00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:56.519
doing it?
1335
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:56.639
So?
1336
00:59:56.760 --> 01:00:01.079
Like how how difficult is the path for him for
1337
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:03.800
you to get him to be a top thirty five
1338
01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:05.880
top twenty five prospect.
1339
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:08.519
That's a really good question. I think double A is
1340
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:11.519
the test, right. I think if he is on a
1341
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:13.440
similar pace, doesn't even have to be quite as good.
1342
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:15.000
But if he's on a similar pace where he's going
1343
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:17.519
to be a double digit home run forty steel guy
1344
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:21.440
with excellent OBP skills with the walk rates, keeping the
1345
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.079
k rate down, high contact rates, if he looks like
1346
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.079
this same kind of player at double A, albeit with
1347
01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:28.679
probably a little bit of you know, bumps in the road,
1348
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:31.320
so some of the development adjustments, then I think I'd
1349
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:33.559
be comfortable top fifty. I think that's probably where i'd
1350
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:35.159
land for him. I just don't know how the ceiling is.
1351
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:36.679
I'm with you on the power. Like I said, I
1352
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:38.960
think he's a twelve to fifteen home run guy long term,
1353
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:41.840
and there's just only there's only so many of those
1354
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:43.840
guys that crack the top twenty five, you know, like
1355
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.440
even with guys who don't have huge power numbers now
1356
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:49.719
like casusmade, and like we're assuming that that's in the tank.
1357
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:51.639
And I just don't necessarily have that same level of
1358
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.000
assumption with sut Zeene. But I've been wrong on him before,
1359
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:55.159
all Right.
1360
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:57.440
You brought a couple names that you really wanted to
1361
01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:59.440
talk about. The first one is my face. I'm really
1362
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:01.519
glad you did it because I probably would have brought
1363
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:06.280
him up, and you, with your English history, can probably
1364
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:08.119
help me. As I'm gonna butcher. I want to call
1365
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:11.239
him Anniveel Gomez. How are you saying his name?
1366
01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:13.320
That sounds right to me? Anabel Gomez is how I've
1367
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:13.679
heard it.
1368
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:16.199
So okay, good. Yeah, but people don't know this. By
1369
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:18.000
the way, I don't really know necessarily know if I
1370
01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:21.119
talk about this, but like, I ask these guys a lot,
1371
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.639
Like the Dominican guys are so great. There's so much
1372
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:27.280
fun to be around out here. You know. Sometimes you
1373
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:29.079
got guys, you know that have been playing like high
1374
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:31.000
school ball, that are kind of more reserved. These guys
1375
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:33.199
they love to talk, even if it's not great English
1376
01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:35.840
or it's broken and stuff. I love. I asked these
1377
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.000
guys so much. I'm like, am I saying your name
1378
01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:40.760
right in the pronunciation? You know what. The last one,
1379
01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:45.159
the big one I remember, was Unker Caucaris with the Guardians.
1380
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.880
I was like Juniker and he was like, Juniper's good,
1381
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:49.440
He's like, you know, I was like, but am I
1382
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:51.360
saying it? Because sometimes I'll just be like, yeah, yeah,
1383
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:52.920
move on to shut up, but I'm like, no, am
1384
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:54.719
I saying it right? And I just want to do that.
1385
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.920
So yeah, Annabel Gomez was the one I was thinking
1386
01:01:57.920 --> 01:01:59.519
if you were with me, But we'll ask him when
1387
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:02.119
he is because he's with the Kansas City Royals. He's
1388
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:06.599
over in the Dominican Summer League. Boy destroying, destroying, destroying,
1389
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:11.679
which isn't necessarily the greatest benchmark. Sometimes, you know, Marconi
1390
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:14.079
Herman wants to have a conversation without with all of
1391
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.239
you right now, so you don't want to get too
1392
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:19.880
crazy about this. But it looks really good. Six homers,
1393
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:23.079
tenstillin bases, three thirty seven, batting average four to fifty OVP.
1394
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:25.719
You now have around one hundred at bat sample size.
1395
01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:29.079
I am very very much hoping that the Royals bring
1396
01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:31.239
him over as the Bridge League is starting next week
1397
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:32.960
where the rookies are going to be here, I would
1398
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:36.679
love to see Gomez either there or an instructs. They
1399
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:42.519
did this with Kendree Trio last year. I hope they
1400
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:44.920
do something similar. I'm really hoping they do because I
1401
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.280
want to see more of it. But he has been
1402
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:50.719
one of the most impressive DSL guys. A lot of
1403
01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:53.480
people talk about him. I am pressing him very aggressively
1404
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:56.719
up in my ranks, trying to keep the Marconi Herman
1405
01:02:57.239 --> 01:02:59.280
thing in the back of my mind. But you brought
1406
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:01.119
him to the table, wanted to talk about him, so
1407
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:03.960
hit us with what you got on Gomez.
1408
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.039
Yeah, so I think I might be one of the
1409
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:10.440
higher guys on Anabel Gomez. He's been the top name
1410
01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:14.039
for me for that international class from January since the beginning.
1411
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:16.079
I know there's a lot of Luis Fernandez enthusiast, it's
1412
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:18.920
a lot of Wandias again, guys Jense Colome. It's a
1413
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:21.119
great class, but Ane Bell Gomez has always been the
1414
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:23.599
guy for me. And I think the distinction is unlike
1415
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:26.440
somebody like Tate Savazine, for example. I think it's an
1416
01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:28.719
important difference for fantasy. And we were thinking about these
1417
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:31.880
prospects with the phrase five category gets thrown around a lot.
1418
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:35.920
Tate Savazine is a five category contributor, right like he's
1419
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:38.400
going to give you something across the board. It's solid
1420
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:41.039
batting average, a little bit of power. But there's a
1421
01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:43.559
difference between guys who are five category contributors and guys
1422
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:46.519
who have five category upside, and Gomez to me is
1423
01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:48.559
a five category upside guy. This is a guy who's
1424
01:03:48.599 --> 01:03:51.000
going to be not just a contributor, but a strong
1425
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:54.000
all star Calender performer. I think as much as you
1426
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:56.119
can put this sort of expectation on a seventeen year
1427
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.079
old in the DSL, that's what I see in terms
1428
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:00.199
of the tool set. In terms of the mechanics, it's
1429
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:02.280
the most pro ready swing in the DSL that I've
1430
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:04.360
seen on film. I mean, it's just a beautiful swinging.
1431
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:09.119
He turns on the ball, real easily adjustable hands, good frame, right,
1432
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:11.400
he's easy six two, one seventy five. I think that
1433
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:13.320
there's a one seventy ish like. I think this is
1434
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:14.840
a good frame for that kind of kid. A lot
1435
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:17.039
of these DSL guys who perform really well are either
1436
01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:19.000
much bigger and much smaller than you would like in
1437
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:22.679
terms of like sort of projection long term. But yeah,
1438
01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:25.199
three forty four fifty eight, six thirty eight slash right now,
1439
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:27.760
six homers, ten steals. He has as many extra base
1440
01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:30.239
hits his singles too, So he's like nothing cheap in
1441
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.519
this profile, walking more than he's striking out significantly. He
1442
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:36.559
has an eleven percent strikeout rate. I will say I
1443
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:38.599
have heard people like Alex Jensen point out that the
1444
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:41.079
pitching in the DSL this year is kind of particularly rough.
1445
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:42.920
So I think that's another kind of grain of salt
1446
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:44.159
to keep in the back of your mind when we're
1447
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:44.760
looking at DSL.
1448
01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:47.039
It's always rough, but that's fair. Like it's like it's
1449
01:04:47.079 --> 01:04:50.280
like out here, you know, and like the summer leagues
1450
01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:52.519
and like rookie ball. It's like it's bad, but sometimes
1451
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:54.480
it's really really bad. That's a that's a fair point.
1452
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:58.400
And that's why, like, oh my gosh, it's really important
1453
01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:00.320
for me to understand where where when you so you're
1454
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.360
highing him? Where are where are you on him?
1455
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:04.320
So that's what I was gonna end on. Glad you
1456
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:07.880
asked you're high on Kevin Alvarez right coming into the year.
1457
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:10.360
That was yeah, really, I've got yeah, I was really
1458
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:12.280
high in him this year and I've actually got him
1459
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:13.679
inside my top fifty right now.
1460
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:16.199
I'm so glad you said that because he's fifty second
1461
01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:19.079
for me, right Kevin. Kevin Alvarez is fifty second.
1462
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:20.880
Oh, Kevin Alverretz Okay, cool, yeah, I think I think
1463
01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:22.320
I would literally was just looking at I think I
1464
01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:25.880
have him like forty four. Let me actually, now I
1465
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:28.079
have to give you the exact forty four. I know that. Yeah,
1466
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:28.760
I've got forty four.
1467
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:31.039
I'm right there with you. On Calvin. Kevin Alvarez, he
1468
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:32.559
was kind of the guy coming over last year that
1469
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.440
I was really excited about with who Gomez. I have
1470
01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:38.039
him at twenty six.
1471
01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:42.119
Overall, yes, sir Loocas, I love it. I love you honestly.
1472
01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:44.079
Also, I think I think James might be with me.
1473
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:47.079
I think he's close in James's update, So I think, yeah,
1474
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:47.360
I think.
1475
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.280
I don't get to claim anything I'm going because I've
1476
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:54.639
got him like right in that one hundred range. I
1477
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:56.320
I just got to get him to do it out
1478
01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:59.519
of the DSL. I think one of the most dangerous
1479
01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:05.719
games on the planet is playing DSL short small sample
1480
01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:09.880
size and then going to the moon. I'm not saying
1481
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:12.119
it's wrong because I freaking love it. Because you're gonna
1482
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:14.760
get to hold this and we have so much more information.
1483
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:19.079
I mean, I I lived. I don't know how old
1484
01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:21.400
you are, Lucas, but I lived through the Kevin my
1485
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:26.119
time time where it was blindly everybody in the world
1486
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:28.840
was just taking like two year old information putting him
1487
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.519
out there. And then hilariously, like six years later, I
1488
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:34.960
saw him with the Angels out here and you know,
1489
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:37.679
surprise playing and it was just like, blew my mind.
1490
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:39.800
It is nothing like that anymore because we have so
1491
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:42.719
much video and information and stuff like that. But my
1492
01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:49.440
simplistic take is, I can't put a DSL guy into
1493
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:52.280
the top two hundred during the DSL season if they
1494
01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:55.639
haven't moved. Alvis was a little bit different because it
1495
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:57.239
happened at the beginning of the season he moved up
1496
01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:00.920
to a ball But like once we get state side stuff,
1497
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:03.599
That's why I went Berzerco with Churio with the Royals
1498
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:05.760
as soon as I saw one of the most impressive
1499
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:08.960
outings I've ever seen from a pitcher. And then if
1500
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:11.320
you think contextually, he went from the Dominican Summer League
1501
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:14.039
to coming over here for instructs and then just blowing
1502
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:18.039
away code with the Dodgers and just the breaking pitches
1503
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:20.199
in the command I was like, holy crap, this dude
1504
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:23.159
is special. And now I think it's hard to argue
1505
01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:25.920
he's not of top sixty prospect, top fifty, top seventy
1506
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.559
five somewhere, and then hiss the top one hundred guy.
1507
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:30.360
I think we might get there and everyone might be
1508
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:34.119
right after it's all said and done. But I think
1509
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.719
there's so many cautionary tales of the DSL. But then
1510
01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:39.639
there's also the Hazers Madies of the world and stuff
1511
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:42.639
like that. But twenty six is awesome, So please expand
1512
01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:43.840
on that a little bit more because I kind of
1513
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:46.519
stepped over it. That is a super hyper aggressive rank
1514
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:48.480
that definitely gets me excited.
1515
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:51.199
No, yeah, I mean I think he broke it down
1516
01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:52.639
well in terms of there is a lot of inherent
1517
01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:54.840
risk in having a guy like on the Belgomaz that
1518
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:57.400
high on this kind of sample. But I think I
1519
01:07:57.440 --> 01:07:59.639
feel much more confident than like in comparison to a
1520
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.719
Marcona Herman, because Herman was a pop up guy relative
1521
01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:04.760
to DSL Sanders, right, This was not a huge sign
1522
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:06.719
of this guy, not a name that was on the
1523
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:09.280
radar that we had a lot of information about. Everyone
1524
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:12.039
was going off of the baseball card stats and hearing
1525
01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:14.519
chatter about exit velocities and things and saying, Okay, this
1526
01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:16.039
guy says, who's Maday, And I think that's where a
1527
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:19.119
lot of the risk comes in with Gomez. It's I
1528
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:22.279
haven't yet heard somebody raise a red flag, Like I
1529
01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:24.319
haven't heard anybody say, yeah, the body's not going to
1530
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:26.000
work or the swing is not going to translate. And
1531
01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:27.880
usually there's at least one of those things, right, Like
1532
01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:29.800
even with a guy like Wanta asked again, now we're
1533
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:32.239
asking ourselves health questions. Right he hasn't played very much.
1534
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:35.840
How's the hamstring looking? I think with guys like Francisco Renderia,
1535
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:37.640
what's the contact rate going to look like? And I
1536
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:39.840
haven't heard that with Gomez. And there are a lot
1537
01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:42.800
of people that I trust that are similarly high on Onimgomez.
1538
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.399
So I'm excited. I'm wondering what your tick is on this.
1539
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:47.760
Do you think say he doesn't come over this summer?
1540
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.039
I would love him to a La Chorio Say he doesn't, though,
1541
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:52.760
just conservatively, do you think they skip the complex and
1542
01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:54.640
send him to a ball like Kevin Alvarez did for
1543
01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:55.520
the Astros this year?
1544
01:08:55.920 --> 01:09:00.359
Definite possibility. Churio wasn't law. I mean, he was long
1545
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:02.640
for here. He didn't come here and play in rookie ball.
1546
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:05.840
He came over. I'm just forgetting what it was it
1547
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:08.399
was in structs of Bridge League. I just don't remember,
1548
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:10.800
but then like he jumped and it I want I
1549
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:13.399
think it was. I think it was Bridge League because
1550
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:14.840
then I think he didn't he get a little bit
1551
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:16.960
of a ball last year and then he's moved through
1552
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:18.840
like right at the end of the season, and that
1553
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.880
was kind of the shock. I think it's a possibility
1554
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:27.520
as no asbo Gonzals was here, I kind of want
1555
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.439
to say they won't based on like like track record
1556
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.479
of how they approached stuff. But here's what would be
1557
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:36.479
telling if they brought him over here during the Bridge
1558
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:38.880
League and they loved what they saw, and then they
1559
01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:40.399
pushed him a little bit and they pushed him to
1560
01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:43.119
a ball by the end of the season. It's definitely
1561
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:46.319
more of a trend that's going on with teams and
1562
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:50.119
frankly like kind of unknown with like the labor agreement.
1563
01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:53.319
And I got to get this cleared up because I've
1564
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:56.359
had multiple people try to kind of rapt what I
1565
01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:58.880
said on my last show, where I am under the
1566
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:04.159
assumption because the entire minor leagues is under the mlb PA,
1567
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:07.239
that everybody is going to be locked out, and I
1568
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:09.600
have people still tell I've had two different people be like, well, no,
1569
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:11.159
it's just the forty man, and I'm like, no, I
1570
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:14.439
think that was before they're under the PA right now.
1571
01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:16.520
So there should be no minor league season, there should
1572
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:19.520
be no camps. Everything shuts down. But I can't get
1573
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:20.359
a straight answer people.
1574
01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:20.800
I have.
1575
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:22.600
Some people in this hand agree with me. Some people
1576
01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:24.880
are like, Nope, it's forty man. All of that to
1577
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:27.079
be said, we don't know what any of this stuff
1578
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:31.720
is going to look like next year, so that could stall.
1579
01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:36.680
We might have a less players jump competitive levels because
1580
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:41.880
they miss critical times. They miss critical they everyone forgets this.
1581
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.840
But these team run camps that you guys don't know about,
1582
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:50.279
like all the time performance camps. The Pottery is run
1583
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:53.359
a fantasy camp, which is like fans, fans and people's
1584
01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:55.399
stuff can come and like, you know, hang out with
1585
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:57.800
Mark Loretta and jakepeb and they can play ball and stuff.
1586
01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:00.640
The Pottery's run a camp during that time. I talked
1587
01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:02.680
to Jackson Merrill a couple of years ago when he
1588
01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:06.600
was at that camp. These teams do these different performance camps.
1589
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:08.640
There's a famous story, by the way, if you ever
1590
01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:11.600
remember Zach Guy, just remember this Zach Allen. The Cardinals
1591
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.640
asked him to do a performance camp and he refused
1592
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:16.159
to do it, and that kind of led them to
1593
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:18.560
wanting to ship him out, which they never would now
1594
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:21.199
with how bad he is. But like, so that's my
1595
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:25.319
point December things shut down that they can't do these camps.
1596
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:27.720
They can't do. What if there's four months of extra
1597
01:11:27.800 --> 01:11:29.760
stuff that they would have been involved with with the
1598
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:32.479
teams and all this stuff that they can't do. That
1599
01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:35.720
could put a big stall on all of these guys
1600
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:37.960
we think could get aggressive bumps because of it, and
1601
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:40.199
now all of a sudden, instead, we might lose a year,
1602
01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:42.880
to be honest with you, on Gomez. So that's me
1603
01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:45.920
mentally like right now working through saying I doubt that
1604
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:48.840
they do that unless some labor agreement is agreed upon.
1605
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:50.680
But I also kind of doubt that. In general, I
1606
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:52.920
think he would come out and play. But you also
1607
01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:55.279
have to remember that rookie ball does start earlier and
1608
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:58.000
they get extended spring training for like a month, so
1609
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:01.399
anything could happen, especially if they payoff. You got him
1610
01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:04.359
at twenty six. He's such a great buyeright now. Regardless,
1611
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:07.039
even if you take an average and you say, you know,
1612
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:09.720
let's say one twenty five to twenty six, and you
1613
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:11.319
want to value him as like a top sixty or
1614
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:12.119
seventy prospect.
1615
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:12.680
I think you should.
1616
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:16.399
I think it's a really smart space to be in,
1617
01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:18.840
but there's still some volatility. You say, double A is
1618
01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:21.560
the big marker for DSL. Let's get the hell over here,
1619
01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:24.479
and my process might be a little bit different if
1620
01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:26.560
I get to see him in person out here. It's
1621
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:28.359
something I get to do in non sanctioned games that
1622
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:30.920
if I do, I will share the information. Two more guys,
1623
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:34.039
Brandon Compton. I was very excited to see this name
1624
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:35.720
because I feel like there was a little excitement around
1625
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:38.279
draft and it's kind of just it's off into the wind.
1626
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:41.439
So what's got you excited or wanting to talk about
1627
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:42.079
Brandon Compton?
1628
01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:44.720
Yeah, I kind of wanted to talk about Brandon Compton
1629
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:46.720
as a bit of a foil for Josh Bayaz actually,
1630
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:49.439
because they have some similar profiles in terms of sneaky
1631
01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:52.520
power speed for bigger guys, like he has twenty one
1632
01:12:52.520 --> 01:12:55.880
home runs eighteen stolen bases between high and DOUBLEA this season,
1633
01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:58.920
but thirty four point four percent strikeout right, So there's
1634
01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:01.399
the same kind of contact concerns. Right, his whiff rate
1635
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:03.439
of the thirty seven point one percent in double A
1636
01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:05.520
isn't a ten percent time. This is not a hit
1637
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.560
tool driven guy. But what's interesting to me about Compton
1638
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:11.319
is the power was kind of a pure projection thing
1639
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:13.159
coming out of college. I mean, he hit nine home
1640
01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:15.680
runs at Arizona State in his draft year at twenty one,
1641
01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:18.880
and wasn't even really I think, on the FIPD radar
1642
01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:20.760
or even the draft radar for a lot of teams
1643
01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:23.640
until at the combine when his exit velocities just exploded
1644
01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:25.000
with wood bat and everybody was I.
1645
01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:26.840
Was just about to say, wasn't it the combine that
1646
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:28.239
then jumped him up a whole bunch?
1647
01:13:28.239 --> 01:13:31.560
I could remember he's exactly the same situation. So his
1648
01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:33.720
combine performance really put him on the map for a
1649
01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:36.439
lot of people. And so even like I took him
1650
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:38.279
in the last round of my home league dynasty the
1651
01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:40.359
FYPD last year, for example, we do a four round
1652
01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:43.479
summer FLIPD of just the NLB draft d's and I
1653
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:45.439
was like, you know what the power speed is in there,
1654
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:47.279
Let's just see what his first six months looks like
1655
01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:50.119
next year. And this is I think about as good
1656
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:52.760
as even the most optimistic rind And Compton fan could
1657
01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:54.880
be in terms of results. Right He's on pace for
1658
01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:58.680
close to a thirty thirty season. The batting average is
1659
01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:01.119
again probably not going to stay where it's at, given
1660
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:02.880
that he's got a three fifty seven babbit and the
1661
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:05.560
contact rates are so low. But I think bringing him
1662
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:08.279
up with Baias is interesting because while I'm still optimistic
1663
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:10.640
that there might be a big leaguer here, I would
1664
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:12.640
be probably looking to sell high on Brandon Compton if
1665
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:16.199
I had him, because relative to my original investment, like
1666
01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:19.239
this is an incredible return. He's pushing into top two hundred,
1667
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:22.279
top one fifty prospect conversations with his performance, like the
1668
01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:24.600
Marlin's organization in general is drawing a lot of attention
1669
01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:26.760
with guys like cam Canerella who have also been hitting
1670
01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:29.279
really well. So I think if I can capitalize on
1671
01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:31.199
some of that and maybe move a Brandon Compton for
1672
01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:32.880
a Tate south the scene, or if I can move
1673
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:36.840
a Brandon Compton for like Payn and something else, I
1674
01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:38.199
think that's the kind of move I'm looking to make
1675
01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:38.640
right now.
1676
01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:41.920
What I like about this too, and you know everyone's
1677
01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:43.359
used to it. By now I listened to me, But
1678
01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:46.079
like I do, I feel I work in a lens sometimes,
1679
01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:48.880
especially when July hits. I started thinking about the folly
1680
01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:52.880
a lot. But why it's important. This reeks of the
1681
01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:56.680
type of player as well that you know would accept it.
1682
01:14:56.680 --> 01:14:59.119
By the way he went to Arizona State that's moved
1683
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:01.439
up to double A, that they might want to see
1684
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:04.399
more of what they have. But also whether it's real
1685
01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:10.520
baseball or inherent like fantasy baseball, it boosts value. Arizona
1686
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.000
fally can boost value, and Compton might be one of
1687
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:15.560
those guys statistically right now has a really good boost.
1688
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:17.800
If you can't find the trade and he can, he's
1689
01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:21.640
gonna finish, you know, probably with like a twenty worse
1690
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:24.680
what twenty five to twenty season, that's ridiculous for this
1691
01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:28.359
big bodied, known power player. Then take it into the
1692
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:31.279
folly and then start having him in the you know,
1693
01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:33.720
the the air kind of comes down, it starts flying
1694
01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:35.720
a little bit. Maybe he's hitting in Peoria and he's
1695
01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:38.159
just hitting tanks like coll main Zarta was doing. Then
1696
01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:40.880
all of a sudden, you're gonna have crazy hype. I mean,
1697
01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:44.600
as Merlin's hype went crazy. I defended as best as
1698
01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:47.039
I could that it was justified. Confidence is the type
1699
01:15:47.079 --> 01:15:49.239
of guy that absolutely could do that. Kemp Alderman came
1700
01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:51.479
out here. They'll send those type of guys that they
1701
01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:54.079
actually have a pretty story history of the Marlins do
1702
01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:58.039
of sending out like one of their top out Victor Mesa.
1703
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:02.560
Victor Victor Mesa has been out there, alder Men. If
1704
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:04.039
I went and looked at the list, I'd find more
1705
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:05.760
like they have a pretty story history of like sending
1706
01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:07.760
out these type of guys. So Compton definitely could even
1707
01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:09.920
get more buzz. So I'm kind of with you, decent
1708
01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:12.479
time to take advantage. And the last player is a
1709
01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:14.359
player I was telling you a story about. I won't
1710
01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:17.800
tell on here or anything, but great dude, great human being.
1711
01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:20.199
One of my favorites that is out there, and he's
1712
01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:23.359
a pretty talented baseball player as well. He was in
1713
01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:26.279
the Arizona Fall League last year. Luke Adams, where's your
1714
01:16:26.279 --> 01:16:27.880
take and what do we got on Luke Adams?
1715
01:16:27.960 --> 01:16:29.640
Yeah, So I brought Luke Adams up because I feel
1716
01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:31.600
like he kind of gets buried in the Brewers system,
1717
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:34.319
which is just such a ridiculously loaded farm system. Now
1718
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:36.159
I mean, you've got the guys like Made and Payne
1719
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:39.359
at the top, recent debutants like Laura and Cooper Pratt
1720
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:41.560
getting some attention, and I feel like lost in the shuffle,
1721
01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:43.960
especially in that kind of crowded corner infield group with
1722
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:47.279
Andrew Fisher and with Blake Burke, is Luke Adams, who's
1723
01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:50.560
actually in trickle a higher level than Fisher, higher level
1724
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:52.960
than Blake Burke, although both of them are performing really well.
1725
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:55.119
And what I like about Luke Adams is this is
1726
01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:57.399
kind of a niche recommendation, I guess, but I played
1727
01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:01.159
almost exclusively OBP leagues and Adam is an opp monster.
1728
01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:03.600
This is maybe one of the most passive and discerning
1729
01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:06.319
both of those attributes. Passive and discerning players in the
1730
01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:08.920
minor leagues. He has an eleven point nine percent walk rate,
1731
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:11.520
but his swing rate is like zone swing rate is
1732
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:13.720
in the first percent tile fifty one point seven percent.
1733
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:16.039
This guy really takes his time at the plate, but
1734
01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:18.359
he punished his pictures as a result, He's got ninetieth
1735
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:21.119
percentile MaxV of one hundred and thirteen miles an hour.
1736
01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:23.560
His barrel rate is till for ten percent, which is
1737
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:25.800
eighty fifth percent tile at the level, and he's not
1738
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:28.119
getting beat with this passivity in terms of giving away
1739
01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:30.119
too many at bats. Right. A fifteen point eight percent
1740
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:33.119
strikeout rate totally fine, right, Like, that's definitely palatable for
1741
01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:35.479
somebody with his kind of raw power. The question with
1742
01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:37.720
him is whether that raw power translates into game power,
1743
01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:39.840
and we're seeing that this year. He's got fifteen home
1744
01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:42.720
runs already, eight stolen bases. Not really going to be
1745
01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:46.159
a factor speedwise long term. But three twenty nine ISO
1746
01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:48.760
in Triple A, well, it's a two ninety one I show.
1747
01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:50.159
I should say it's a little bit inflated by his
1748
01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:53.359
complex rehab starts. But two ninety one IO in triple
1749
01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:55.439
A twelve home runs for a guy where power was
1750
01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:58.039
the kind of biggest question mark for him. I think
1751
01:17:58.079 --> 01:17:59.720
there's going to be a lower batting average because the
1752
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:01.399
pas sidy he's going to get punished a little more
1753
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:03.079
when he does make the jump to the major leagues.
1754
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:05.159
But the Brewers have been kind of asking for a
1755
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.439
steady qurner infield presence at first base in particular for years.
1756
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:10.720
I think Adams is going to get the first shot,
1757
01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:12.920
ahead of Fisher and ahead of Burke and I think
1758
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:14.319
he could be a sneaky buy right now.
1759
01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:18.399
You know what's really interesting about him is like, obviously
1760
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:20.560
there's like a lot of exciting things you see on here,
1761
01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:24.319
like Max Evs and one thirteen. You know, he doesn't
1762
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:27.199
strike out a whole bunch. This was reminding me of
1763
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:31.560
this prospect though in their savantness, is that Trevor Larnick
1764
01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:34.439
went through this big transformation. He was just like big power.
1765
01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:36.520
He was trying to be this big power hitter as
1766
01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:38.840
he was kind of pushing up against like Kerlof in them.
1767
01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:41.840
And then this year's I talked about the sun leading off,
1768
01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:44.239
there was this dramatic change all of a sudden where
1769
01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:46.640
he was getting the ball in the air more and
1770
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:49.520
he was not barreling as much, and his hard hit
1771
01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:53.119
rate went down and his approach had completely changed and
1772
01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:55.720
he became a guy that was like, Okay, I'm not
1773
01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:58.399
going to go for the big, crazy hard hit stuff.
1774
01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:00.479
My strikeouts are coming back down. I'm get the ball
1775
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:02.479
in the air and I'm gonna pull it. And that's
1776
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:04.439
like what Luke Adams does. Like Luke Adams does not
1777
01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:06.800
have an impressive like hard hit rate thirty seven percent,
1778
01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:09.279
maybe thirty eight percent, Like that doesn't jump off the board.
1779
01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:11.640
He can do it. He can smash the ball, but
1780
01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:13.960
that's not the game. But look at this, it's twenty
1781
01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:16.640
three and a half almost twenty four percent pulled air percentage.
1782
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:18.199
Like he's going to get the ball in the air,
1783
01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:19.880
he's going to try to pull it. He does a
1784
01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:22.439
really good job of that kind of natural hitter. That
1785
01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:25.039
passivity might actually work kind of in favor to that.
1786
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:30.399
Sometimes you get frustrated when you see speaking of Trevor Larnek,
1787
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:32.720
a teammate I suppose in the miners, but like an
1788
01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:34.800
Emmanuel Rodriguez, a Manor Rodriguez is one of the most
1789
01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:37.279
frustrating prospects on the planet outside of him getting hurt.
1790
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:40.039
But it's just like you have that weird high walk
1791
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:45.279
sometime at Eduardo Edward Julian did that. There's like these
1792
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:47.880
guys out have these like weird approach issues where it's
1793
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:50.439
like get the damn bat off of your shoulder and
1794
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:53.600
take some big swings and stuff. But like Luke adams
1795
01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:55.399
approach to me is a little different than what some
1796
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:57.039
of those guys in the past that you see with
1797
01:19:57.079 --> 01:19:59.359
that passivity where they're you know, it's like they're they're
1798
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:02.079
waiting and then explode. It's like, well, Adams is really
1799
01:20:02.119 --> 01:20:04.119
not trying to like just murder the ball. He's going
1800
01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:05.960
to play all field, He's going to get the ball
1801
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:08.479
in the air, and he's just naturally big guy that
1802
01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:10.239
is going to be able to optimize it. He is
1803
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:12.720
kind of sneaky, he does. He smells of one of
1804
01:20:12.720 --> 01:20:15.840
those players that was never highly talked about and then
1805
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:18.119
is going to end up having a ten year plus
1806
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:20.439
major league career. And then we'll have probably a couple
1807
01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:21.880
of those that are very fantasy relevant.
1808
01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:23.840
And it's interesting that you brought up Larnak that last
1809
01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:25.880
note here in that I trust the Brewers way more
1810
01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:28.399
than I've ever trusted the Twins. Right there is if
1811
01:20:28.439 --> 01:20:30.279
there is an organization that's going to be able to
1812
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:33.239
help him really maximize whatever their sort of approach, their
1813
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:36.960
shared collaborated vision for his approach is, it's going to
1814
01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:39.239
be Milwaukee. Right So, I think that's a bet I'm
1815
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:41.439
going to make, especially at his current value. I mean
1816
01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:43.399
I don't he's not consensus top one hundred that I
1817
01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:45.239
know of. I mean, I think even I probably am.
1818
01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:47.439
I have him at one twenty five and That's probably
1819
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:49.520
one of the higher rankings that I've seen for him.
1820
01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:51.000
So I think if you can get him at like
1821
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:54.199
top two hundred, top to fifty prospect value, definitely a
1822
01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:55.640
trade I would be look Lucas, more.
1823
01:20:55.920 --> 01:21:00.520
Lucas coming in hot Lucas. I very much enjoyed the time, obviously,
1824
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:02.079
you know, I wanted to bring on because I enjoyed
1825
01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:04.640
talking with you and having on the Rotal Wire show.
1826
01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:08.920
I've immensely more enjoyed this conversation with you. Sometimes there
1827
01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:10.760
are just easy people to talk to, and you're one
1828
01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:12.680
of those What do you got going over at Prospects Live?
1829
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:14.720
Why don't you plug what you got going down there?
1830
01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:17.199
Yeah, for sure. So I do the Diamond Diploma series
1831
01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:19.640
every week, writing up the players who are closest to
1832
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:21.800
making the leap to the major leagues, either from Triple
1833
01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:24.039
A or like if you're at Kate Anderson, somebody sort
1834
01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:26.439
of waiting their time in Double A. So definitely something
1835
01:21:26.439 --> 01:21:28.720
to keep tabs on if you're even just a redraft
1836
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:30.720
player looking to kind of know what rookies are coming
1837
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:33.520
up in the coming weeks and months. Yeah, and just
1838
01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:36.560
excited for integrating our FIPD guys into rankings List. It's
1839
01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:38.680
really enjoyed the conversation with you, James and Eric the
1840
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:40.680
other day, and I really appreciate you having me on.
1841
01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:42.399
I mean, this is this is a show that's been
1842
01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:45.239
kind of a staple of my fantasy baseball journey. So
1843
01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:46.840
it's really fun to come on and get to talk
1844
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:47.439
baseball with you.
1845
01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:50.279
Well, very kind, very much appreciate it and trying to
1846
01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:52.720
get that staple back into more consistency. That's a big
1847
01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:54.880
key you're helping with it. Make sure you go follow
1848
01:21:54.960 --> 01:22:00.359
them on Twitter, the Prospect prof Professor Prospect Professor, but
1849
01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:02.279
just profit thee and make sure you go follow him
1850
01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:05.880
and catch all his work over Prospects Live. Lucas, thank
1851
01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:08.399
you so much for hanging out, and uh, get the
1852
01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:09.920
hell out of here, man, get off the hot seat,
1853
01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:13.279
go do some non prospect based stuff. But still please
1854
01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:17.199
think about Gomez and think about Luke Adams and keep
1855
01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:19.520
thinking about these prospects for us. There you go. That
1856
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:21.840
is the episode. Thank you guys so much for hanging
1857
01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:25.960
out being here, and hopefully you guys enjoyed that conversation.
1858
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:28.600
Some of the stuff in between. At the front of
1859
01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:31.560
the episode, we're talking about the Bridge League I'll definitely
1860
01:22:31.560 --> 01:22:33.680
have more information. I've got the schedules, I know what's
1861
01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:36.399
out there. I got to just figure out my schedule
1862
01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:38.920
versus when I can get out to some of these
1863
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:41.960
stadiums and start seeing some of these guys. But it's
1864
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:45.039
a trippy time, man. You know, there's like the pot
1865
01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:48.800
like the old this killing me, the old players that
1866
01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:50.279
we grew up on that were out there, like the
1867
01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:54.800
Padres camp had Robbie Hammett coaching, Tim Lecastro and like
1868
01:22:55.439 --> 01:22:59.119
Moisi Saloo, and then I think Glenn Hoffman and Bud
1869
01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:01.600
Black almost threw on me accidentally and they were like
1870
01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:04.560
profusely apologizing, and I was just like that would have
1871
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:06.840
actually been okay. It was like one hundred and nine out.
1872
01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:10.279
I'm like, I would have preferred you would have hit me. Dodgers,
1873
01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:14.520
Jason Hayward, Chris Archer, Nelson Cruz, they're out there, Holy crap,
1874
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:18.279
Jim Tomay. I heard Big mac Is Mark McGuire was
1875
01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:21.039
out at the A's Like they're like they might have
1876
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:23.199
just been for these specific camps, but if they hang
1877
01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:25.079
around for Bridge League too, It's just like such good
1878
01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:27.319
tutelage for these guys. And there's gonna be just so
1879
01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:29.960
much cool information that we have the potential to get.
1880
01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:33.159
It's just about getting out there to these Bridge League
1881
01:23:33.199 --> 01:23:36.239
games and that will lead hopefully to you guys being
1882
01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:39.319
able to see some of the access of these guys.
1883
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:41.600
You know. The other little thing I'm i kind of
1884
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:44.359
buried in all of that is there's a possibility this
1885
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could be a year where these these high school guys
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stay in Bridge less than ever. You know, they might
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want them to be have more of a competitive push.
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I think Eli Willitts was decently pushed last year, but
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maybe maybe Grady Emerson will only do a week and
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they're gonna want to get I don't know, one hundred
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at bats in the miners. If they can get that
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something like that, you know, maybe the high school guys
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will do. We really don't know how it's gonna go,
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but it's fun to get out there to try to
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get the early looks with the potential if you don't
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get to see these guys. Kate Anderson never popped out
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last year, Steel Hall never popped out last year, you know,
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So being able to get in front of these guys,
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hopefully we will be able to do a lot going
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on in baseball as well. Because the trade deadlines coming up,
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there are going to be some prospects on the move.
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There are some very big names that are available in
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a very crazy way, and it's got the potential for
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you know, I don't know if you could if we're
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gonna see like a Luis Payana or I don't know,
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I just trying to go through the list. I mean,
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I think there's like so many untouchable guys at the top.
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Franklin Arius is an interesting name, Andrew Fishher, you know,
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zyre Hope. I think there's a potential we could see
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a couple of like those type of big names, and
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then there's gonna be a bunch of depth. So we
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will be making sure to dial in to talk about
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guys that are getting new opportunities. What means for some
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of the traded prospects probably do that in two weeks
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post trade deadline. So we have all the names that
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have been traded, but you know, we'll see how it
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goes if we start seeing the litany of them. But
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we've got that, We've got p one ADPs coming up
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in the near future. First year player ranks top five
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hundred and top four hundred Dynasty at in this League
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