Episode 419 - MLB Draft with Joe Doyle of Overslot

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With that update about to happen, the June update, Welcome
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into the episode. And today we have got Joe Doyle
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from Overslot because we're going to be doing and jumping
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into a draft focused episode. We'll be looking at the
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top portion of the MLB draft, especially hyper focus on
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the top five draft picks, just because you know it
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always rounds out like this with drafts, where you know
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it's like, oh, it's top heavy, it's depthy, with no
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start whatever it is, like there ends up being like
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just cool names that pop up and stuff like that.
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But I would say that this draft has a top
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heaviness to it, top five or six and four or
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five players somewhere on there, and we're gonna get Joe's
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take on those players, plus a few other pointed questions
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about like one of his favorite toolsy players, a Helium prospect.
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I want to say, like, in total, we probably get
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to like ten to twelve different prospects out of this draft. Obviously,
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like you know, Rock Chelowski is, you know, the theoretical
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number one overall pick and you may know enough about him,
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but you know, from the complete novice of not understanding
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like who these guys are and what their rank is,
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to some more deeper conversations. That's what Joe and I
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are going to do. So that is the plan for
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this episode. You know, we'll probably have one or two
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more prospect debased episodes and then you know, probably at
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the end of June into the first week ish is
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of July, the hyper focus on the draft because we're
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about to be inundated with a whole new set of
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prospects and the you know, the Bridge League is going
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to be popping up. So that is the plan. Joe
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Doyle from Overslought here in just a minute, thank you
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guys for hanging out and joining for this episode. Crazy
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week even around prospects. Brad Montgomery called up, which was
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kind of a shock to me and just one of
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the coolest prospect moments of the season where Braid Montgomery
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has a walk off homer in his very first game
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to win it.
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Just super cool.
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The dude opposite field, there's big power and I've been
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kind of talking him up. You guys hadn't seen it yet.
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I mean, I've had Braiden pretty high for the majority
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of the season. But I want to say, since my
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I guess I'm looking since my last update, I had
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him at six in the update that's about to drop,
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so the update you should see. So I'm guessing he
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was ten before that. I'm just such a firm believer
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in the bat, in the overall tools. And then his
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second game he goes and has a double. I think
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it's huge. There was a cool buying opportunity that's kind
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of gone. But braid Montgomery, Bryce Eldridge absolutely on fire
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right now. There were some big, big concerning batting average
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stuff and playing time that's going on, and he's got
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his average up over almost over three hundred, starting to
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show off some power, starting to show off some of
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those great tools. And you know, the other big headline
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Hector Rodriguez. So I don't know if you saw a
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couple of weeks ago Hector Rodriguez with the Reds. There's
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my buddy Dennis Siller text. Dennis is like, the Reds
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need to get Hector up. I don't disagree, dude, because
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not only did he have that three homer game a
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couple of weeks ago, which is incredible, he just hit
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for the cycle. And this is one of those like
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off the walls Staddy things. This is a hat tip
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to MLB dot com for it that I kind of
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sometimes make fun of because you see these things and
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it's like, you know, there's a third prospect, you know,
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with daylight in the month of June that ends with
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a you know, a one or three. You know they
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did just do those stupid stats. But this is it's
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along those lines. But I thought it was interesting. Only
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five times as a player hit for the cycle and
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had three homers in a game within a two week
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span across all of the major leagues, and I guess
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minor leagues included. And here's the list of the five players.
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So this is to have hit three homers and for
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the cycle in a two week span Ted Williams in
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nineteen forty six, and he did it within a week.
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Joe Tomahachio May twentieth through May twenty third in nineteen
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forty eight, so him and one other player did it
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in the shortest span Jim King in nineteen sixty four.
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That was the longest span. Adrian Beltray in a three
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day span August twenty second through the twenty fourth and
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Joseel Tuve did it a couple of years ago, August
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twenty eighth through the fifth. Those are the only five
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players to have ever done That's like, that's a wild number.
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Now, this is the minor.
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Leagues, of course, but Hector Rodriguez has been absolutely dominated.
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Those are just a couple of guys that are on
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top of mine, that are really getting headlines. There's so
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many other interesting performances going out there. I've been out
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it's a little bit more rookie ball, so I'll steal
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Hall last night. There's so much to talk about, but
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we are getting this to a draft based episode, maybe
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something we will jump in next week, kind of talking
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about some of the performances that are floating around and
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some of the things I've been seeing in rookie ball,
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but just wanted to kind of throw those out there.
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I'm super high on Braden. I'm feeling good about what
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Bryce is doing, and there might not be a prospect
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that has more of like let's get them rolling, Let's
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get them up into the majors and see what's going
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on than Hector Rodriguez right now. There's also plenty of
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other promotions, you know, Eli Willitts looks ridiculous, right, There's
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so much.
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To talk about.
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We probably need to do a Q and A episode.
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Maybe that's what we'll consider doing in this one or
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the next one. I'll drop the post on Patreon to
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see if there's some questions you guys have and we
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can kind of talk about.
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Some of the big promotions.
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But we've got Joe Doyle coming up. Want to remind
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you guys have mentioned him earlier, Dennis Sidler. The reason
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also you talked about Hector is Hector is a client
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of Dennis Sidler. You can get some awesome autographed stuff of.
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Hector Rodriguez over there.
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He just did the Chris Sale signing. Chris Sale was
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on Monday's It's cool. He put out pictures on Facebook
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of some of the crazy cool stuff that Chris Sale signed.
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He's always got interesting stories, but from Chris Sale to
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Corbyn Carroll Jackson, Schurio to some you know, the hottest
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prospects in baseball. Aj ewing is up right now. Dennis
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has got them. Go and check it out at Sidsgrafts
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dot com. The eBay store is probably the best place
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to check all of it. Just go on eBay and
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search sidsgrafts and you can also find him on the
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socials at the same name.
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So go and do that today. Appreciate his support.
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Let's take a break, Let's get to it. Joe Doyle
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on the other side, we're talking MLB draft, Rock Chulowski,
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Grady Emerson, Jackson Flora and what does the pitching look
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like this year? Give you a little primer to get
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set for with the top half, especially of what your
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first year player drafts are going to look like. With
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some of these great MLB draft prospects.
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Say I like you. I like you so much, I'm
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gonna make you my partner.
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All he has to do is find the gold and
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I'll share it with you.
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Fifty to fifty prospect.
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We're talking MLB draft, and of course over the last
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couple of years, I've been bringing on Joe Doyle as
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you do, and as you should.
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He's my buddy over at over We.
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Love to talk MLB draves, to talk just general things
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as well. But you're just such a specialist, Joe in
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the world of the MLB draft. You're my favorite person
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to get on and glad to have you back.
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Man, Thank you, thank you. Man.
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I enjoy the show every single year. It's good to
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be back. Thank you for yet another invite.
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Yeah, I mean I'm trying to make sure I can
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get you in this year too, because I know, like
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your crunch time is, I mean, it's been going on,
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but a real crunch time starts over this next month.
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And there is a lot going on with the MLB draft,
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not that it's going to be super surface level, but
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you know, for people listening here, this isn't going to
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be a conversation about the entirety of the first round
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or getting into second, third, fourth round picks or anything
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like that. It's really going to be a familiarity with
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what I think is like there's gonna be obviously varying
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degrees of value on some of these guys and stuff
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like that, but.
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Like you know, the big four bats.
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And those guys kind of have different tiers and then
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kind of maybe the big pitcher name and then just.
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A couple things we're gonna poke at you.
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So the idea he is going to be talking about
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what we can attach to these big names and right
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out the shoot Joe that you.
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Know everybody's talking about.
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He dominates the landscapes, and it is Rock Chelosky, who
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is presumably unless you are a Giants writer or whatever,
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and you want to do that silly hysterical stuff about
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how Rock is going to, you know, fall to the.
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Giant blah blah blah blah blah.
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Rock is going to be the first overall pick, and
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it's been presumed since the minute that the White Sox
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ended up getting that number one overall pick. UCLA shortstop
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this season, hitting three twenty twenty plus homers for a
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second straight year. Walks the strikeouts are about the same.
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His offensive profile has been picked on like a tiny
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bit this year. But first and foremost with Rock, talk
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to me about your breakdown, your analysis of who he
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is as a prospect.
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Yeah, ironically, it's interesting you bring all that up. I
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actually do have Rock as the number two prospect in
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this class. He's not my number one guy, but I
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think I'm alone in.
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That, and I meant as drafted. By the way, you're
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right about that. I know exactly what you mean. You
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do have lack You were going to talk about his
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number one I meant as the number one guy to
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be drafted. But also I guess I say all of that,
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and deals can be had, but sorry, yeah, go on.
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No, I think you're right.
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I think the I think the odds on favorite to
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go number one, I would still put it at, you know,
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a sixty sixty five percent chance of going number one.
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And the reason is, I mean, it's just it's it's
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one of the highest floor prospects that you're going to
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come across.
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Right.
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This is a potential gold Glove shortstop. This is a
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guy that is going to hit. This is a guy
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that is going to slug a little. I think the
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nitpicking and myself included, looks at you know, it's potentially
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just an average runner, maybe even a step slower than that,
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maybe a fringy runner. I don't think he's going to
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be much of a stolen base threat at the next level.
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But you know, you look at some of the guys
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that have had that profile in Major League Baseball, the
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Dansby Swanson's, the Alex Bregman's, the you know, you name it.
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Shortstops don't necessarily have to run to be really valuable
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in the field, Corey Seeger exactly. So I think with
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with Rock, you're getting a guy that has done it
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going back to high school. He's he's played on the
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you know, the highest levels. He's played on the Cape,
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he's played for USA, he's been the team captain. It
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is of all the guys that I've talked to over
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the last seven or eight years in these pre draft interviews,
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these these spotlight shows that I do, he is on
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the short list of the most impressive character guys that
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I've spoken with. So there's just you know, you're you're
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always going to fatigue on certain players as the draft approaches,
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especially a guy that is trying to go pull the
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pole as the favorite, as the number one overall pick.
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But he's impressive, man, he is. He is as he's
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as sure fire a four win shortstop as I think
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you're going to find in most drafts.
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Now, how sure fire is the offensive profile for you?
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When you look at him?
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You said, the stolen dipped down from a college year,
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probably not gonna be a big stolen based guy. There's
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been some I tetter if it was people talking about
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some v lo stuff with him, like like what does
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the offensive profile read to you? Because we're gonna step
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this into kind of looking at like the current landscape
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of prospects in MLB, But like we know.
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There's a floor.
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But what does the upside upside of his profile feel like.
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I mean, I think the upside is that of a
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Alex Bragman type of a player. I mean this is yeah,
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I mean this is this is still a guy that
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makes a ton of contact, swings at the right pitches.
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There are no holes in his game, I'll put it
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that way. He doesn't swing and missus sliders. He gets
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the hands up to elevated velocity. He is able to
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adjust his hands in the box and make contact on
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pitches outside of the zone with two strikes when he's fooled.
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Not a guy that strikes out very much. He takes
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his walks, has some feel for launch. But I think
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that's that's actually the part that people have kind of
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picked a part this year is he's he's running a
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sub fifty percent hard hit rate, which I think is
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pretty rare for a number one overall pick guy. That's
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just he's not hitting the ball over ninety five miles
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an hour consistently and in the Big ten. I think
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that's something worth worth noting. And then also there was
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a lot of like infield fly balls and shallow fly
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balls into the outfield this season, with some tinkering in
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terms of the way that he loads into his swing
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and his swing planes. So I do think that when
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you get him into the big leagues there is going
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to be some swing tinkering that goes on with whoever
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drafts him. I think they're going to try and quiet
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his hands down a little bit as he loads. But
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even with a noisy swing, even with a swing that
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you know coaches would look at and go, it's not
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how I teach it. The guy still hasn't shown any
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ability to not handle whatever is thrown at him. Now
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you can really scratch under the surface and look for holes.
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You can look for his track record with a wooden back.
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You can look for his track record on Fridays against
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ace starters in college baseball. Sure, there's always going to
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be somewhere to pick and prod it in every prospect,
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But I just look at this guy. I look at
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the exit ve lows, I look at the bats of ball,
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I look at the approach, I look at the track record,
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and it's hard not to have confidence that this guy's
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going to be a productive big leaguer for a long time.
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Sometimes what I feel like I hear with Rock two
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is dig this for better or for worse? Is do
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you think there's any comparisons to like Dylan Cruse. Remember,
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Dylan Cruz was like kind of a can't miss college prospect.
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He didn't really exemplify any like crazy polled type of stuff.
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He was just like a guy that you know could
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put up strong EV's opposite field. He just drove the
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ball really great college career, kind of felt like it
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was a floor career, and then things did kind of
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fall apart in the majors. Do you think there's any
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similarities in a Dylan Cruz to a Rock to Lost?
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Obviously positionally they're different.
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You know, I talked about a little bit on my
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podcast this past week, and I think when you look
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at the Dylan Cruz eval in retrospect, I think there
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are some things with that eval that we should have
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been a little bit more cognizant of. There was a
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lot of swing and miss when he did expand the zone.
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He never expanded the zone. It was like a thirteen
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percent chase for Dylan Cruz. But when he did expand
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the zone, there was a lot of swing and miss,
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not a lot of adjustability there. He had like a
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thirty eight percent swing and miss rate when he swung
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at sliders like a thirty percent with rate on fastballs
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at the top of the zone. And I think the
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reason people are comparing Cruise and Schilowski is because inherently
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they both have the inside out up the middle swing.
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They prefer to pepper the right center field gap, and
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when they get a mistake they get a hanger, they
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can pull it over the left center or the left
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field fence. That's true, they do have similarities in the
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way they swing the bat, But for everything I just
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listed with Dylan Cruz, you know, Chilowski doesn't have that
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whiff rate against sliders, he doesn't have that with rate
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against fastballs at the top of the zone. He's got
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a contact rate on which is outside of the zone
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twenty four percent higher than what Dylan Cruz had when
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he was at LSU. And I do all say this
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recognizing that Dylan Cruz was facing LSU competition SEC competition
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on a weekend basis. But the differences between these two
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bat profiles from twenty three and twenty six are so
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far apart that I don't think it is fair to
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label Rock Scholowski the next Dylan Cruz. Someone who's gonna
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come up and struggle like Cruise has. I just think
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Schlowski is a better player than Cruse was.
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At the same moment, I didn't even know those comps
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were floating out there.
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That was just something came to mind. So that's interesting.
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So the only thing with Rock I want to ask
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you about, and this is man, this is gonna be
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tough because there's just so many different outlets of it.
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There's Baseball America, there's Pipeline, there's obviously the fantasy people
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like myself and James Anderson whatever. When I ask you
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where do you think he slots in? It's a very
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broad question, but what is a general consensus. And I'm
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again like, you know, Franklin Aarius is now like number
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four in Baseball America's list and topol and he might
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be some of these guys like you know, Depaula and
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Walker Jenkins who are inside the top ten in Baseball
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America might be like outside the top twenty for you know,
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maybe some fantasy outlets. So there's a general sense to this,
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But like, where do you think Rock comes in once
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he's drafted.
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By the White Sox, Like what spot do you think
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he like?
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And you could even throw a player out if you
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would like if it's not you know your valuation. You
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could be like, hey, he's right next to George Lombard,
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or he's more of a Mike Sirota. You know, however
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you want to do it, Like what range do you
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think he should be.
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It's so funny that you bring up Lombard because that's
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where I have him. I have him, I have him
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written front of Lombard. Yeah, it's tough, you know, from
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a I'm a I'm not a huge fantasy baseball player.
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I'll always be the first to admit that.
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And in fantasy baseball, you don't get a whole lot
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of points, you don't get a whole lot of love
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for the defense, and so that has to be taken
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in to consideration. But yeah, I have him smack dab
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in the middle of Miller in George Lombard. In terms
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of where he fits in Major League Baseball, I still
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think he's going to be a top ten to top
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twenty prospect in the league. I don't have him in
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the same tier as Franklin Arius from a from a
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fantasy perspective, but that's where I would lump him in
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I'd lump him in with the Aiden Millers and lump
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him in with you know, perhaps the Louise Payana as
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if if you want something that is a little bit
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further out from the big leagues. But yeah, I mean
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he is going to be an immediate top five or
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six infield prospect in the sport, and I think he's
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gonna move quicker than a lot of the guys that
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we've that we've talked about here, and.
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The White Sox have proven to us that they're also
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willing to move. As we're recording this on today, Brad
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Montgomery was just called up and they've already, you know,
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brought up a shlew of other guys. They are not
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holding back bringing up their top prospect. So Rock would
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be one of those guys that moves a little bit quicker.
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Moving on.
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You kind of set the stage a little bit already
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where you said, you know, when I was saying, like
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the number one overall pick is is Rock and it
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looks like that's locked in, But that doesn't mean he's
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the number all one overall valued player. And as you said,
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Von Lackey is the guy that you have got at
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your number one out of Georgia Tech catching prospect. Really
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interesting bat so far on the season, twenty homers. You know,
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big average is floating out there, three ninety seven and
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over five hundred.
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OBP, which is stupid.
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More walks and strikeouts, which you love to see, any
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stealings and bases.
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Just really great athlete.
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So let's just talk in a bubble for a second
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about what got Lackey to go above Rock for you
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in your overall ranks.
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Yeah, it was a very very thorough process for me.
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I weighed fifteen different variables and trying to figure out
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who has the upper who has the upper hand. I
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look at it like this, Von Lackey is having a
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much better statistical year than Rock Schlowski. He plays at
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a more premium position. It's a lot harder to find
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a five win catcher than it is to find a
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five win shortstop. He plays in the acc which I
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think has been a much more difficult, you know conference
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to traverse instead of the Big twelve. He's got a
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barrel rate that's eleven percent higher than Rock Scholowski has
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this year. I think there's a huge universe where Von
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Lackey is not the player that Rock Scholowski is, But
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I also think there's a universe where von Lackey is
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and it's such a lazy comparison, but it's really the
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only guy that we've got that he's the next JT.
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Real Muto, where he comes up and he's you know,
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hitting twenty four to twenty six homers and he's at
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least early in his career stealing you know, eighteen to
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twenty bags behind the plate. From a fantasy or from
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a non fantasy perspective, he's got the best arm in
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the country. It's an absolute cannon. Him or Cashel Dugger
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at UCLA. They both have just how it serves behind
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the plate. And I just think, you know, when you're
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when you're evaluating players and you're and you're going for
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the most value, you are going for the best player.
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For me, right now, von Lackey is the better player
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with the more toolsy player. He comes from a positional
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demographic that is much more difficult to find value an impact,
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and so for that, I personally think von Lackey, despite
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the fact that he's probably going to take another you know,
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year and a half to get to the big leagues
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than Rock, I still think he's just the better prospect.
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Do you think the offensive profile is going to translate
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over or expand further? You obviously mentioned the stolen bases
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as something you know, another one like a Gusta Ramirez
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was like stealing bases and stuff and hitting for power, Like,
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do you think that there's a full translation. He's a
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twenty plus homer, fifteen to twenty stolen base, he hits
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for average, Like like, what what is the most confident
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translate to the majors element? And what is the thing
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you're most worried about is going to translate over for him?
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I think the defensive tools are for sure going to translate.
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I think the athleticism is for sure going to translate.
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And you know, I think you'd be foolish to bet
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against von Lackey. If you can look at his numbers
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here if you're listening on screen, he was a two
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fourteen hitter as a freshman, he barely played. It was
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really good as a sophomore three forty five hundred slug
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really good.
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Right.
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He has gotten better every single year in one of
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the most demanding conferences while playing the most demanding position
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in my opinion, on the field. And that's not something
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you can say about Schilawski, I would say it's not
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something you can say about Drew.
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Burris, his teammate.
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Von Lackey, continues to get better, he continues to evolve,
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he continues to blossom into something bigger and better and
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more every year. And so if you're using trajectory as
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a means to evaluate a prospect, and you just take
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into account, Okay, this guy didn't have all the tools
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and and you know, celebration in the parade coming into college,
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but he figured it out, like he grew his way
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into this role. If you assume he's going to do
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that in major League Baseball, I don't see there's any
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reason why all of these tools shouldn't translate.
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So obviously the tools are different here.
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But I just I have this like it's a smaller feel,
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I guess of it, but I have this like vibe
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where I thinking back to God, what was it the
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to the twenty eighteen or nineteen draft, Like I get
496
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very like Bobby Witt versus UH Retchman versus Andrew Vaughn
497
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vibes here where it's like you've got, like I guess
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rock to me is the UH Andrew vaugh which, by
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the way, I think Vaughn went to cal but you know,
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I was thinking California. You've got the like, you know,
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the lockdown kind of college bat, and then you have
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this offensive profile Catcher and Ali Rutchman, which you were like, man,
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especially for a fantasy person, You're like, man, this is sick.
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But Catcher is kind of a kind of a tough
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thing to vibe around. And then you know, we've got
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we'll talk about him in a minute. You got a
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high school shortstop that's putting out there. It's a crude
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kind of comparison here, but like, where do you think
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Vaughn kind of sits in that world where like Adlee
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was up against you know, this like season college bat
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and then this upcoming like high school profile, like you
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have him as number one. But if you're thinking about
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just purely like offensive profile here, does Lackie have those
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Retchmen vibes? Don't think about retchmenon right now because Retchmond
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has been struggling. But Rechmond was one of the top
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premier guys in the game for a bit.
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Well metrically, he is not the player that Adli Rutchman was.
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There was more polish in the overall hit tool in
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the approach. Actually, the exit velocities from both sides of
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the plate with Adlie Rutchman were better than von Lackey,
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which says a lot considering we just got done watching
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Von Lackey hit you know, four hundred and fifty foot
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home runs in the Super Regionals I and you know,
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Adley was also a switch hitter. He hit really well
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left handed, and there is a lot of value in
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the ability to hit left handed. So I don't think
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Von Lackey is the player that Adli Rutchman was at
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the same stage. But I do think you make an
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apt comparison where yeah, I think Lackey carries a little
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bit of risk just with the positional demographic that he
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is compared to what rock Chelowski probably will provide.
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Right out of the box.
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But that all being said, you know, comparing lack Key
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to a high school shortstop in WIT, I think it's
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it's apples to oranges. And to your point that the
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catcher in fantasy baseball in general, I said this on
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my podcast, like, there's a chance Von Lackey only plays
538
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one hundred and forty games a season, and there's a
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chance that he gets beat up. There's a chance that
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he slows down because of the wear and tear that
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goes into your legs behind the plate. So yeah, I
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think if you are taking von Lackey, you are buying
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what he's going to provide from a fantasy perspective from
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the ages of twenty three to twenty six, and you
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don't really know what you're gonna get after that. But
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I think his peaks could be much brighter than what
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Chilowski provides.
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Okay, so then that what that's gonna do is that's
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gonna take us to the high school rings here where
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there's two high school shortstops. Maybe there's a little different
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varying degrees here, but grading m Emerson is where we're
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gonna start. He is seen as a top you know,
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somewhere between two and three overall prospect and different. I
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think some people have got it, like Rock and then Emerson.
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You've obviously got Lackey at the top here. Grady Emerson
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is coming off I think high School Player of the
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Year twenty twenty six Golden Spikes Award winner. I believe
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that was hit over five hundred. He's ridiculous. Obviously, there's
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going to be comparisons just mounted against every high school
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prospect that's come out over the last couple of years
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in fantasy. So talk to us about Grady Emerson and
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the overall profile.
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Yeah, I don't have a comp for Grady Emerson. It's
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something that I've kind of struggled with. It's not something
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that i've really I've really wanted to Chase. I've kicked
566
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around Chase Headley if he played shortstop, But I don't
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even really like that. Grady Emerson is left handed. That
568
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is where we have to start. The fact that he
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is left handed. He is six foot two, he is
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two hundred and five pounds physically mature. The swing among
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Lackey and Chilowski and Lombard is the best swing in
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the It's going to translate the best, no question about it,
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out of this group. I got to see Emerson probably
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thirty different played appearances over the course of the last summer,
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and he never sacrifices an at bat. His takes are elite.
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He sees the ball very very well, and he's got
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obvious batspeed, he's got obvious round power. So I don't
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think the physical tools with Emerson are going to belong
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in the same conversation as guys like wit like you
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had mentioned. But I do think, you know, greedy Emerson
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profiles as the type of kid that hits two seventy
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five to two ninety in the big leagues, hits twenty
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four to you know, maybe thirty home runs at his peak,
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perhaps runs enough to steal you eight to ten bags
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a year. But this kid's gonna hit. And I got
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to speak with Emerson as well. It's an elite personality,
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it's an elite attitude. He doesn't take the you know,
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the celebration around his name, the famousness of his name.
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He doesn't care about any of that. So he's an
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impressive kid man. And if there was a if there
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was a high schoo hitter that I was sure was
592
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going to see their production from high school transfer into
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the big leagues immediately, it would be this kid. It
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wouldn't surprise me if he's in double A in twenty
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twenty seven.
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Would By the way, what is he connected to Colt?
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Is that the Oh what is the connection? Because you
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said that, I was like, what is the connection?
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00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:20.880
There is none. No, he's not.
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He's not related to col T Emerson at all. He
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kind of plays similarly to Colt Emerson He's a little
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bit more physical than cold Timerson. But if you want
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a connection at all for Grady, his hitting coach is
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Rusty Greer. If you're a nineties baby.
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Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, No, I thought I thought you
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had said like carrying the name, the weight of the name.
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I got what you're saying now.
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So let's then, what is the comparison from the offensive
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profile when you look at last year's draft and you
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look at Ethan Holiday and Eli Willetts, tough with.
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Eli Willets because Eli Willets.
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Is destroying minor leagues right now. Moving up, Ethan Holliday
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00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.079
really had started to find rhythm before hurting himself and
614
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being out for the year. So if we look at
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a recency, how how would you rank out Grady Emerson
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versus Eli Willetts and Ethan Holiday.
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I mean, I think he's right smack dab in the
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middle of those two profiles, Like he's not the power
619
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.880
hitter that Holiday was, He's not the contact hitter that
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Eli Willitts was. The body is right in between. I mean,
621
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in some ways he's a bit more athletic. Jojoe Parker,
622
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I think that's kind of the more apt comparison. He's
623
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not as big and built as Jojo Parker, and he
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00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.039
moves better than Jojo Parker, but he's got that same
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00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.480
sweet left handed swing, power, hit tool combination. He's going
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to stay on the dirt. So if I were to
627
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compare him to anyone from twenty twenty five, it would
628
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be what you like in Jojo Parker, accept the ability
629
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to actually play the shortstop position in stay athletic. I
630
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think we're already seeing from Parker. He's getting pretty big,
631
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he's getting pretty physical. He's probably going to move off
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of the shortstop position by the time he's twenty three.
633
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I don't have that fear with Emerson.
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Is Emerson going to be a guy, because I guess
635
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:54.839
you kind of said this, so this is just reiterating it,
636
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but you said like you wouldn't be surprised if he's
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in double A. Do you think this could be the
638
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path of like a Jackson holiday where Jack's on Holiday
639
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just got in just.
640
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Kind of dominated.
641
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It was one season, moving through four levels, and then
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whoever ends up taking him, he's just gonna be one
643
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of those young highest I mean, not trying to do
644
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the comparison, it wouldn't be the same because Colt obviously
645
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took a few years, but he was like a twenty
646
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year old getting to the majors. Like Grady Emerson. Is
647
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he a guy that just moves you know, three levels
648
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next season and then in twenty twenty eight we're talking
649
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about him.
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It's like maybe making a major league run.
651
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I think that's possible. I think he could make a
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major league run in twenty twenty eight for sure. And
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you know, Colet Emerson was the number twenty two pick,
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but a lot of people had him in the top
655
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you know, twelve, top fifteen in that class. And I
656
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do think Emerson. I think Grady Emerson has more easy power,
657
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more more you know, raw power that he can get to,
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more bat speed that he can get to naturally than
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does Colt. But I think the Colt Emerson path is
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certainly a path that we could see Grady take because
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I think Grady's gonna hit right out of the gates.
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I think he's going to put together polished, played appearances,
663
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and you know, if he comes up and he provides
664
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the same type of profile at a young age that
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Colets Emerson has done thus far, I think you're pretty
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happy with that.
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So then where do you think if we if we
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00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:13.079
go back and look at like rank range, it's gonna
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00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.160
be a little bit tougher. But now you start to
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00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.279
look at, like what range of prospects do you think
671
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you want him to sit in? If Rock is a
672
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top fifteen guy, I'm gonn guess you're gonna probably have
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Lackey as a top fifteen guy, especially because he's above
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And if we're now moving to Emerson, like what vicinity
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of prospects? Again, it's an open ended thing because all
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of them are different. You know, BA has got Eli
677
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:41.079
Willitts at nineteen, Luis Payne is at twenty one, Ryan
678
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Waldschmid at twenty six, Like do we need to go
679
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down further?
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Like what space does he occupy?
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I have Paynya at twenty one, and I have Joshua
682
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Gonzalez at twenty five. I would probably put I would
683
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probably put Emerson at twenty two. He'd probably be right
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in that range. I think he's, you know, as polished
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a left handed hitting shortstop prospect as you're gonna find
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in this class. And I think he fits above the
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Jojo Parker types. I think he fits kind of right
688
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in that Louis Pania. You know, not he's not George Lombard,
689
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but he's also better than Jojo Parker. So I'd put
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him in the Louis Pania bucket and maybe just maybe
691
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just a tick below that.
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Okay, Well, speaking of George Lombard, we can talk about
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his brother in, Jacob Lombard, who is the other kind
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of a little bit like maybe of a tear difference
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down from from Emerson. But you can take it however
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you want. But Jacob Lombard, this is very funny because
697
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I remember the first year you may have been there.
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We didn't connect, but it was the very first year
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where it was the public opening of the MLB draft
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combine down here in Arizona, and I had brought my
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son there and we were just kind of hanging out
702
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and watching and it was all about George. George was there,
703
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.440
but his brother was hanging out with him. It was
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like the family was there and George was getting ready
705
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to get drafted and whatnot. And then I remember George
706
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hanging out, but it was like, you know, the little,
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the little Lombard, and Jacob Lombard is now in the discussion,
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So let's go through it. A solid high school season.
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Where where does he fit in your space as far
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as when you're comparing against Grady Emerson and what does
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the profile look like.
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Yeah, Lombard has been a struggle for me because last
713
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:23.519
summer he had so much swing and miss. And you know, Chris,
714
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we've we've gone through this before with Elijah Green, We've
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gone through this before with Ethan Holiday. We've we've evaluated
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the kids with enormous tools but have a ton of
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00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.119
swing and miss when they have faced good competition. I mean,
718
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:40.839
you know, Lombard had like a fifty two percent with
719
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rate against fastballs above the letters in twenty twenty five,
720
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So it's it's really hard to shake that first impression,
721
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.680
if you will. That being said, he had a monstrous
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spring and it sounds like he's made a lot of
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physical adjustments. It sounds like the swing is really working.
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But that's kind of the that's the narrative that I
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fight with this one. It's Elijah Green was this, but
726
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Elijah Green really struggled, and Ethan Holliday was this And
727
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it's been a it's been kind of slow out.
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Of the gates for Ethan Holiday.
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Now I'll say this, Lombard has more tools than both
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of those guys. And he plays on the dirt. He's
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at least a plus runner, it's plus arm strength. It's
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an incredible athlete that can make highlight reel plays. I mean,
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if it works, he's Manny Machado. If he hits, it's
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Manny Machado. And if it doesn't, you know, he's another
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one of the guys that we've just talked about where
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he doesn't make the big leagues until he's twenty four,
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and it's just a slow burn. So I've got Lombard.
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I believe I have him at six if I'm not mistaken.
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He's a little bit lower for me than a couple
740
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of other guys. But like if you're shooting for the moon,
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if you are shooting for the highest value player to
742
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come out of this class, Lombard is higher than Lackey,
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He's higher than Chilowski. He's the guy that comes up
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and hits two seventy with thirty five home runs, And
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I mean, this is this is the thirty thirty guy
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from this classific clicks. We'll just have to see if
747
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it happens. I haven't personally seen Lombard live in the spring.
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To give my two cents on the mechanics and how
749
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it's looked, but the baseball card doesn't lie. He did
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have a very big year.
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Do you think there's bigger upside than his brother or
752
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do you think George kind of exemplified Because George has
753
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definitely seen some downs, he struggled with some batting average
754
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over the last couple of years.
755
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But you see these loud.
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Tools and one of the funny things that ends up
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happening with him. Even I kind of excuse it is
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like everybody just can't help. But ooh, and a about
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George Lombard, despite there being some struggles, where do you
760
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think Jacob sits on that ladder versus versus his brother George.
761
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Well, from a non fantasy perspective, Jacob is a more
762
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naturally gifted defensive infielder. He makes the game look easier,
763
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he makes the game look slower, and Lombard is a
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very good glove himself, but George is a very good
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glove himself. Jacob is for me, a higher ceiling fender.
766
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That being said, you know I mentioned when when Holiday
767
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was coming up, these guys was swinging miss at the
768
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top of the zone against velocity and high school have
769
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struggled well. George was the same way in high school George,
770
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and George has been that player all throughout his minor
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league career. He can't get his hands up to velocity
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at or above the zone. Now it's looked better this year,
773
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but that's been his crutch and I think that's Jacob's
774
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crutch as well. And you know it's it's taken George,
775
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you two and a half years to make the adjustment
776
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to hit the high fastball. And we'll just have to
777
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wait and see if if Jacob makes the same adjustment,
778
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because in a lot of ways they have a very
779
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similar swing path, they have a very similar swing and
780
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so I'm sure Jacob is going to deal with, you know,
781
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some of the same growing pains that that George did.
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But George figured it out, and if Jacob does too,
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he's going to be a star.
784
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Let me, this is kind of off book here, and
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this is switching vibes on players here for a second.
786
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But just some of the similar things you're talking about
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sound like this guy from a college level. But what
788
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happened to justin Lebron. This is like a top three
789
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or four overall guy. I think a lot of people
790
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had him above, had him above a guy like Lombard.
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But I know this season totals and I think it's
792
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some of those swing and miss got to people. Are
793
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you in the same camp that like, you know, where
794
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we give excuses maybe because you said the preconceived notions
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of a Jacob Lombard, where you're like, you know, this
796
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is this is what I've known, and this is what
797
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I see. And yes, he's made some changes this year.
798
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When you look at a guy like Justin Lebron, who
799
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was like tippy top of value and this year alone
800
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has kind of decimated what in your eyes happened to him.
801
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Yeah, I mean for Lebron, it's been the same narrative
802
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year after a year. If you feed him a slider
803
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at the bottom of the zone, he's going to swing
804
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:46.559
through it. His swinging misrates on breaking balls at the zone,
805
00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:49.159
at the bottom of the zone or below the zone
806
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.800
are are so low that you question whether or not
807
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he is capable of making the adjustment at the next level.
808
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:58.280
And you know, once you get to double A, you
809
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.400
get out of the sect seeing guys on the precipice
810
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.280
of the big leagueses guys that can throw the breaking
811
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:05.519
ball at the bottom of the zone whenever they want.
812
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If they know you're not going to be able to
813
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.760
hit it, even if you're sitting on it, they're gonna
814
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throw it. So Lebron is the same hitter he has
815
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.840
essentially been the last few years. It is above average
816
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:20.280
drop power, it is plus speed. He's gonna steal a
817
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.400
ton of bags. It's great instincts on the basis big iq,
818
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.039
huge arm. I still think he is on par with
819
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Jacob Lombard in terms of the best defensive shortstop prospects
820
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:34.599
in this class. Regardless of the errors that he committed
821
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.440
this season. The question is just is he going to hit?
822
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:41.360
And it's why I've kind of put the past prime
823
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:43.760
Javier Bias thing on him. It's like, Okay, this guy,
824
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.840
you know, there's a chance that he is a two
825
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.239
fifteen hitter with eighteen home runs but plays Gold Club defense.
826
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.760
If he figures it out, then he could be early
827
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:56.360
career Hobvey Bias, where he's a two sixty five hitter
828
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.440
with twenty five homers in Gold Club defense. So I
829
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:03.239
think the appetite with with Lebron is just one. Do
830
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:04.599
you believe in the glove.
831
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:04.800
Like I do?
832
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.159
If you do he's a top fifteen pick two. Do
833
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.280
you believe he can hit? If you believe that you
834
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.679
can fix Justin Lebron to the point where he can
835
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:16.239
be a two fifty hitter, the physical and athletic tools
836
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:17.159
belong in the top ten.
837
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:20.800
Okay, I'm just he was just floating around as we
838
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:23.239
were talking about Lombard the one picture we're going to
839
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.239
talk about in this You're welcome, by the way, to
840
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.119
throw in any picture that needs to be in the discussion,
841
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.719
But Jackson Flora seems to kind of own some of
842
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.280
the conversation. After one point zero six ERA season through
843
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:39.119
sixteen starts, over one hundred innings. You know, very very
844
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:42.800
talented picture out of UC Santa Barbara usually being mocked
845
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:44.840
near the top. I know there's a couple high school
846
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:46.880
pictures that are floating out there, but this is the
847
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:48.039
guy that I wanted to touch on.
848
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:50.119
So talk to me about Jackson Flora.
849
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.000
And does he sit in a space of his own
850
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:56.400
in kind of like the pictures that we should pay
851
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:58.559
attention to at the tippy top of the draft, or
852
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.480
are there guys that belong in the tier?
853
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:03.360
I think no, I think Flora's in a class of
854
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.239
his own, I would be stunned.
855
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:06.320
I would be floored.
856
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:10.199
I'd be Flora if he's not the number one pitcher
857
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:13.719
off the board. And listen, I don't think Jackson Flora
858
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:18.159
is the Chase Burns or the Paul Skins, or the
859
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:20.960
Hagen Smith or even the Dax Whitney of next year.
860
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.480
Like I don't think this guy comes in, goes to
861
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:25.840
double A and dominates right out of the gate. I
862
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:27.719
think there's some player development that needs to go into
863
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.239
his secondaries, specifically his breaking ball. I think he needs
864
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:34.320
to bridge the fastball and the sweeper with something shorter
865
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:36.719
and firm, and he probably needs to work on his
866
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.800
fastball shapes as well if he's going to miss more bats.
867
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.480
You know, my biggest complaint with Flora this year is
868
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:43.880
you are pitching in the Big West. You throw one
869
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.480
hundred miles an hour, You have an eighty seven mile
870
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.559
an hour sweeper in a ninety two mile hour changeup,
871
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:50.800
and you throw strikes. How do you only have one
872
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.039
hundred and thirty three strikeouts in one hundred and two innings.
873
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:55.400
I mean it, just you know, Bremner was a whole
874
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.039
lot better than that in the same league, in the
875
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:02.320
same level of competition, So I don't think he is
876
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:04.559
as plug and play as some of the arms that
877
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.440
I listed before. But if he lands in the right
878
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:11.119
organization that has done well with pitching development, say Pittsburgh
879
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:13.679
for example, I think he could be a guy that,
880
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.639
you know, the second half of twenty twenty seven, for example,
881
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.599
could immediately vault into the number one or number two
882
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.639
pitching prospect in baseball. I think he could be up
883
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.760
there with Seth Hernandez and Ryan Sloan. I think he's
884
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.000
that good. I think he's that talented, he's that projectable.
885
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.679
It's an elite body. He's never struggled with injuries. So yeah,
886
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:33.840
I mean, that's that's my thing with Flora. I'm just very,
887
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:37.719
very confused why he didn't miss more bats in twenty
888
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:38.280
twenty six.
889
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.960
So there's some ifs and butts of where he could be.
890
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:46.039
Where do you think he does lie among pitching prospects
891
00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.159
once he's drafted. Let's say it goes to a median spot,
892
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.039
like just it's not Colorado, so everything else is like Median.
893
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.920
It's not maybe the greatest on the planet. Where amongst
894
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.760
pitchers you mentioned Bremner, I know, like MLB pipeline has
895
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.159
Lee Doyle ranked really high. They've got him as the
896
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.719
top twenty five guys, Sloan as the top twenty five guy.
897
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.280
You've got Jamie Arnold at twenty six. Jamie Arnold, to me,
898
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.320
is kind of an interesting comparison against comparing against a
899
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.079
few of the last year pitching prospects and an overall list,
900
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.760
where do you think we would be looking at Jackson Flora.
901
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.599
I still think he immediately becomes a top five pitching
902
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.480
prospect in the sport. And you know, I do think,
903
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:23.519
and this is not to take anything away from Flora,
904
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:26.239
I think we're in a little bit of a lull
905
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:29.280
right now in terms of pitching prospects in Major League Baseball.
906
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:30.480
I think there's a lot of good ones. I don't
907
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.880
think there's a lot of great ones. So for me,
908
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.199
he would be behind This may be a hot take,
909
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.199
that's fine, he would be behind Jamie Arnold. I think
910
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.159
Jamie Arnold is a better pitching prospect right now. He
911
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.840
would be behind Thomas White, he'd be behind Kate Anderson,
912
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.119
he'd be behind Ryan Sloan and Seth Fernandez.
913
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:46.400
So maybe that puts him at six.
914
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.360
But nonetheless, I still think He's a top thirty five
915
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.320
prospect in the sport, probably closer to top thirty.
916
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:55.920
Okay, So I mean that's those are pretty high regards
917
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.760
as far as pitching goes. Is there anybody else that, like,
918
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:00.719
just as a quick aside, I'm gonna ask you a
919
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.840
few other questions on a rising pitcher and stuff, but
920
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.360
is there anybody else you think that is like in.
921
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.559
Close to the tier of floora at all? That's worth conversation.
922
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:14.440
I mean, the guy that I find most interesting is
923
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.760
is Cole Carlone at Arizona State. He doesn't really throw
924
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.239
a change up, which I think is worrisome, but he's
925
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.960
a six foot five inch six foot six inch lefty
926
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.840
with a you know, forty five percent with rate on
927
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:27.280
the slider. He's been up to one hundred and one
928
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:31.280
miles an hour. I do question what he's going to
929
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.519
have to get right handed hitters out to the to
930
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:36.519
the arm side. But it's the sort of profile that
931
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.639
I think could jump into the top forty top fifty
932
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.000
overall prospects in the sport pretty quickly, maybe as early
933
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.079
as preseason twenty twenty seven, if if a pro team
934
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.920
lets him pitch early on in or late here in
935
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.159
twenty twenty six, so he would be the guy that
936
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.280
I'm looking at closely as a potential you know, surprise
937
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:56.360
name in top one hundred circles.
938
00:43:56.480 --> 00:43:58.239
It's funny. I saw a mock draft.
939
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.599
I don't know who it was, but I maybe Pipeline,
940
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.000
but it was as a Diamondback fan. It had like
941
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:05.760
Liam Peterson going to the Diamondbacks and then the compensatory
942
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:09.360
was Carlow and I was just like, yep, let's please
943
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.880
let that happen here. So all right, talking about some
944
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.119
of the big top names, these are just a couple
945
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:18.039
basic questions for you. Of the names in the hitting
946
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:21.840
side that we didn't talk about. Your favorite Toolsy player
947
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.719
outside of those, So again, from a fantasy perspective, we're
948
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:27.599
trying to poke around, we're trying to find power speed
949
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.400
five tool players. Your favorite Toolsy player of the I
950
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:34.280
guess we've talked about like five because we threw Justin
951
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:36.000
Lebron in there as well.
952
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:38.599
Favorite tools They player that you're targeting.
953
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:44.159
Yeah, it's Strue burs It's Strue Burris by five metric miles.
954
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.559
I wrote about him this morning at overslot Baseball dot
955
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:51.719
com shameless plug. This dude's five foot nine and he
956
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.239
shit the ball one hundred and fourteen miles an hour
957
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.559
seven times. He hit a double one hundred and eighteen
958
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.320
miles an hour this year, one hundred and eighteen miles.
959
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:06.119
Even if you don't buy into the metal bating, excuse
960
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.800
me if you don't buy into the metal bat thing like,
961
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:10.840
that's still one hundred and fourteen and a half off wood,
962
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.360
one hundred and fifteen off wood. I think he gets
963
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:19.199
knocked for his size, but it is a poll air profile.
964
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.960
With above average speed in center field plus arm strength,
965
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:26.320
he's gonna steal bases and he's never stopped performing in
966
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:29.639
the ACC. So I have him as number four prospect
967
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.360
in this class. I think Drew Burris comes to the
968
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:33.159
big leagues. I think he gets twenty five home runs.
969
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:34.840
I think he steals fifteen bags, and I think he
970
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.239
you know, vaults himself into a short list of you know,
971
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:41.000
the top ten center fielders, top ten left fielders in
972
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:42.920
the sport pretty quickly in.
973
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.639
Size, the size of players and is mattering so much
974
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.679
more less, and especially with like abs and these controlled
975
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.000
strike zones, it looks like it's a benefit to smaller
976
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.280
players as well. They're getting a little bit more cushion
977
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.199
on the top end of zones and stuff, and it's
978
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.559
just like, give me any guy that can pull the crap.
979
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:02.320
I mean, that's why I like Luis Fernandez with the
980
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:04.440
Giants right now. I go look at him and you know,
981
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:06.079
seeing him in person, like I have a couple of
982
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.519
times he is a smaller ish guy, but.
983
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:09.599
It's like, what do I care?
984
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:13.119
Like he just he destroys the baseball and the zone
985
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.079
is in kind of a protective state for him.
986
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:15.760
Like That's why.
987
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.840
It's just like, I feel like we will no longer
988
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:21.360
be holding a guy being five foot eight or five
989
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:24.360
foot nine against them anymore if the production is there.
990
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:28.199
So I think, I think from a baseball fandom perspective,
991
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.800
that's for sure the truth. I think from a scouting lens,
992
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:32.880
we're still not there. But I mean, I don't know
993
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:37.960
how many more, you know, Dustin Pedroia, Mookie Betts, Jose Altuve.
994
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.280
I don't know how many more of these guys need
995
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:45.000
to show out with tools and production before people start saying, hey,
996
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:45.719
ball is ball.
997
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:47.400
You know, if you can hit, you can hit.
998
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:52.960
Yeah, favorite rising pitcher we talked about two different names
999
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.079
here but favorite guy that maybe is on the rise
1000
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.079
right now, whether that's through the first round, maybe someone
1001
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.199
in the competitor or whatever it is, however you want
1002
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:01.880
to do it, But one of your favorite rising pitching
1003
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.800
prospects in the MLB draft, Yeah.
1004
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:05.440
You know a guy that.
1005
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.360
I think, a guy that I really like that isn't
1006
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.000
getting very much love is Jack Raydell at Notre Dame.
1007
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.679
He's six foot five, he's two hundred and fifty five pounds,
1008
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:19.280
he's up to ninety eight. He throws an eighty seven
1009
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:21.559
mile an hour slider, he bridges it with a cutter,
1010
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:22.480
and he's got some feel for.
1011
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:23.039
A change up.
1012
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:26.559
So I think in a draft that is just full
1013
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:29.880
of lefties and full of guys that have been famous
1014
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.440
for a while, the Retamens and the Peterson's and the
1015
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:36.960
Coons and the Townsends for example, I don't think Jack
1016
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.239
Raydell has really been given the opportunity to kind of
1017
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.599
break through into that tier. So listen, I'm not saying
1018
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.519
that you need to, you know, spend your whole budget
1019
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:45.719
on him, but I think he's going to go in
1020
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.119
the second round, and I think he's going to have
1021
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:48.599
a very very good big league career.
1022
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.440
Finally, helium prospect. We've done this before where we've talked
1023
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.280
about helium. I think usually kind of speaks to the
1024
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.639
first round player that has jumped in. Whether again it's
1025
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.199
the back into the first round that has really flown up,
1026
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:04.760
whatever capacity do you want to do it? But who
1027
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:06.920
is a prospect that is on the high rise in
1028
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:08.159
the MLB draft right now?
1029
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:10.800
I'm going to give you two because I think they're
1030
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.280
both worth mentioning. One is taj Marshawn shortstop out of
1031
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.760
South Carolina. He's not even eighteen years old at the draft.
1032
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:21.320
You know, that's the that's the col T Emerson pedigree,
1033
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:25.000
you know, But he's not even eighteen. He's six foot three,
1034
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:29.519
he's one hundred ninety five pounds, absolutely elite batto ball marker,
1035
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.480
unconventional swing, but hits the crap out of the ball,
1036
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:35.239
can run. He's an above averag runner. He's going to
1037
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.800
play the shortstop position. I think it's the type of profile,
1038
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:42.320
the type of archetype that despite being really young, could
1039
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:44.360
move really quick. Another one of these guys that I
1040
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:46.880
think could debut by the time he's twenty years old,
1041
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:50.440
maybe early twenty one. The other guy, is is. If
1042
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.880
we're looking for fantasy numbers, if we're looking for a
1043
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.840
guy that's going to drive in runs, hit homers, extra
1044
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.480
base hits, I would be buying relatively high on Texas
1045
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:01.360
tech out old Logan Hughes.
1046
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:02.119
I think he is.
1047
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.280
I think he is one of the most complete bats
1048
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:08.199
in this class.
1049
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:09.159
He's six feet.
1050
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:12.159
Tall, two hundred and ten pounds, left handed, gonna play
1051
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:17.840
left field, elite barrel rates, very very good approach, excellent
1052
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.519
bat to ball skills, and plus raw power. I would
1053
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:22.280
be all over that one. I think he belongs in
1054
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.320
the top of from this draft class. I think he
1055
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.519
belongs in the top fifteen from a fantasy perspective.
1056
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:31.440
Love it fantastic names and names that you guys can
1057
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.119
see over at overslot. Joe, talk to us about what's
1058
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.400
going down over at overslot right now. Obviously you're in
1059
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.039
the throes of everything. You got the pod, you've got
1060
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.519
all of the ranks. Give us a plug on what
1061
00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:43.920
is the latest over the next couple weeks at overslot.
1062
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.360
Yeah, overslot baseball dot Com. I wanted to give people
1063
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.159
the ability to scout and evaluate players the way they
1064
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.119
want to scout and evaluate players. So every college player.
1065
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.159
Every high school player has a stat cast inspired visual.
1066
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:57.840
You can look at their bat to ball skills, you
1067
00:49:57.840 --> 00:49:59.920
can look at their exit veilos, you can look at
1068
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.280
their plate approach, and you can decide if you want
1069
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.000
to draft them in a fantasy in a fantasy league,
1070
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.559
we have our top five hundred prospects for the twenty
1071
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.639
twenty six draft out. We also have boards out for
1072
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:12.800
twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty eight. If you've got
1073
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:15.920
a dynasty league that looks way forward. So yeah, Overslot
1074
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baseball dot Com.
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Love it, baby, love it. Brother.
1076
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:21.599
Well, hopefully I get to see your beautiful face here
1077
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:23.280
in the next month or so, but I know you're
1078
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.920
going to be crazy busy. I'll probably check in back
1079
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:27.960
with you, but you're going to be seeing Joe all
1080
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.239
over the place. Make sure you're checking out the pod
1081
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.840
and everything over at Overslot because there is draft to
1082
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:35.360
be had, and when there is draft to.
1083
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.039
Be had, there is Joe Doyle.
1084
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:38.719
Thank you so much for hanging out with me, brother,
1085
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:40.079
Appreciate it as always.
1086
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:40.760
And we'll talk to you next time.
1087
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:42.440
You're the man, and there you go.
1088
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:43.599
That is the episode.
1089
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.599
Thank you so much to Joe for taking the time
1090
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:47.559
he's always the best. We were talking after I kind
1091
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:50.360
of forgot the MB Draft Combine is coming up in
1092
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:51.920
a couple weeks, and he was like, are you going?
1093
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.440
We got to get together. So I actually probably need
1094
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:56.360
to do some credentials to see if I can do that,
1095
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.199
and probably won't see guys like Rock, but you'll usually
1096
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.320
get those high school guys I haven't seen. I don't
1097
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.079
even think they've listed it out, but sometimes, like the
1098
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.400
top high school guys might ditch out on it. But
1099
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.119
you know, last year because like Ethan Holliday didn't perform,
1100
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:14.159
so Grady Emerson might not. But last year, like Jojo Parker,
1101
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:20.159
he shined at the combine. God Dax Kilby was one
1102
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:21.920
of those. So you usually get kind of those mid
1103
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.360
roundy type of players. But it'll and so the college
1104
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:26.320
guys will float around and do interviews and stuff. So
1105
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:27.960
I might try to get out to that happening in
1106
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.519
a couple weeks and hopefully catch up with Joe. That'll
1107
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:35.480
be fun. Little we're keeping on Wednesday slash Thursday return here,
1108
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:37.199
but be on the lookout over on Patroon because I
1109
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:39.440
might drop that Q and A where I'll put a
1110
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:42.079
post out there and we can answer some fantasy based
1111
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:44.840
questions on prospects that you guys might have as I
1112
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.079
continue doing interview.
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Based stuff here. So hopefully you guys are subscribed.
1114
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:50.920
Go to end this league dot com if you want
1115
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.760
to check out the latest top five hundred update that's
1116
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.760
coming for prospects. Also has a sorting by team and
1117
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.880
by position the top four hundred dynasts, and then we
1118
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.519
also have we just kind of continue expanding where we
1119
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:08.320
can the you know, the MLB draft based prospects. I
1120
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:10.320
definitely know there are people out there that you know,
1121
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:12.840
some people don't do it until they're drafted. Some people
1122
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.400
probably have top five hundred or top one hundred.
1123
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.639
Lists of those guys. I like this slow paced kind
1124
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:17.960
of role.
1125
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.239
As we get closer, we're learning more about the guys,
1126
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.000
you can do more studying that kind of slow roll
1127
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:24.880
it because I have found myself in years prior where
1128
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:28.719
I got really ahead of myself, you know, did aggressive
1129
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.079
ranks and then just kind of stuck to them and
1130
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:33.360
then just you know, it's like here's a seventy five
1131
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:35.199
guys already, and then just throw them on the list
1132
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.840
as I build it. You know, I think we just
1133
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:39.840
learn a lot more about these guys, and we kind
1134
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:41.880
of we don't get ahead of ourselves. So someone's like, well,
1135
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:43.599
why was this guy here and there? And it's like, well,
1136
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:45.559
so much, just changing so much. We're learning about a
1137
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:47.840
lot of these players. But I'm very excited for the
1138
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.159
MLB Draft and excited to get these guys on the board.
1139
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:52.599
Going to completely.
1140
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:54.840
Transform the top five hundred, and then I should see
1141
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:58.159
a host of them when the Bridge League starts up.
1142
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:02.199
So con going on, ton happening and excited to gyap
1143
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:04.119
with you guys more. Make sure you subscribe to the pod,
1144
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.119
check out the Patreon, and follow me on Twitter at
1145
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.599
is it the Welsh. You guys have a fantastic one
1146
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:10.119
and we will talk to you next time right here
1147
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:15.639
on Prospect one.