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Hey, hey, hey, book lovers.
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Welcome to Plot on the Rock, the podcast where representation is crucial and it's always for the plot.
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We're your hosts, Alicia Rikia, and Tia, three friends dedicated to honoring the brilliance and the power of black and PLC authors.
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We got some hot tape, some spoilers, don't worry, we'll always warn you, and deep combos on culture, identity, and everything in between.
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Each week we dive deep into a new book, share our unfiltered thoughts, and celebrate the writers who are reshaping the literary world one story at a time.
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And fair warning, if you're here for a calm, quiet book club, this might not be what you're looking for.
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Grab your favorite drink, curl up with us, and let's talk books.
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The ones that move us, excite us, and keep us flipping pages way past our bedtime.
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So lower your expectations and let's get into the plot.
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Okay, we're live.
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Before we get started, I just want to make sure everybody feels safe with their black books that are in the room.
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They don't feel like they're in an unsafe environment.
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We're Mark's sake.
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We don't need like a shy student market.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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There's no sirens.
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I just want I've been holding on to that joke for like days.
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No, seriously.
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Like, what possessed her?
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She's still going.
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Pull out her camera.
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She's still going.
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It's the fact that she doubled down for me.
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Like, after everybody called you out at this point, maybe.
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No.
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Exactly.
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Somebody called out her book because her book takes place in high school.
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There's spice in it.
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Yes, I know.
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And the high school take the high school, the location of the high school is a former.
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Sit down.
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I know you're sitting down.
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It's a former plantation.
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It's I see my people.
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And the main character.
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I don't hear my people.
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I see my people don't.
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Not only that, but she, the main character, is the only black person at the school, and she's Stop it.
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I don't know.
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Honestly, if anybody feels unsafe, like I feel unsafe with her.
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Meanwhile, a lot of these like white romance books are like they get kidnapped half the time and then they have Stockholm Syndrome with their kidnapper.
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Like kidnappers, murderers, all types of crazy stuff that be going on.
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Weird family shit happening.
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Like if you don't know what we're talking about, just go on TikTok, type in black books, and then save.
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Do your own research.
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No.
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If you ain't heard about it, which because I mean they eating her up as people in the non-book talk world are eating up.
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The self-patred is so loud.
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So it's crossed.
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As they should.
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As they should.
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I saw this girl.
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I I can find her.
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Maybe we'll put her in the show notes.
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I think she's working on a shirt, and it was like books.
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Fiction books are better when they're urban and it has like really cute like wording.
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I was like, I need that.
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I need that.
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That is very cute.
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Definitely need that.
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So as long as we feel we feel safe and secure.
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We have to do self-hatred on this show.
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Where's we love black books on this show?
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That's all we do, actually.
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Literally.
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In case you didn't know.
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That's all I do.
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But it's like, and even like what's crazy is even someone in the comments said, like, literally, all you like, and I said it too, like, all you had to say was like, not everybody likes every fiction, that's fine.
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That's it, that's all you had to say.
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But like, well, where did I don't understand why she got like the uh I don't I don't know, I'm not gonna have to go inside her brain.
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She she's self-hating, and then when you find out, because I don't know if she said it in the original video or in a follow-up video, but she grew up in a black family, but in an all-white and Asian neighborhood.
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So this explains everything for me.
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And you know, y'all don't be putting y'all kids in a school where they're the only black person.
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Don't do that.
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Because you see how you know it bugs up their racial identity.
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And honestly, I can't say that because that was her choice.
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Because y'all know I grew up in Cameron County.
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I can count the amount of people who look like me at school, maybe on two hands.
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I'll give us like a smooth 20.
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This is all of us were together and we hung out together, and that wasn't my only outlet.
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Like, we call the next city over town.
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That's why the black people that I was in town a lot of times, so she she chose that dynamic that she was in.
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You know, this is very this is a very good point, and you know, and your family probably instilled a lot of racial pride in you as well.
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So these are things that also make sense.
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Like, be safe out here, guys.
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Be safe and pay attention, like what's wrong with you?
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Yeah, and for her to even write a book about that, like it's one thing if you write a book about that experience and it being traumatizing to you, but I highly doubt that's what the book is about.
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I don't even I don't even want to know what it's about.
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I know what I you said enough, and I'm fine.
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You done enough.
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I just done enough.
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I've heard enough from your mind.
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She just fucked up her book sales, so that's why I said her book's not even out, babe, because in November.
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I don't know why you like you said, you shot yourself in the foot, because no, no, like your whole audience, and there was people that probably would have read it despite the saying and the character list.
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They won't now.
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Oh well.
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Damn.
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Well, damn.
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At least I'm so sorry about it.
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Yeah, very controversial, and I think that actually ties into the book that we're reading and talking about today.
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Y'all, we are reading Dagger Mouth Dagger Mouth by HM Core.
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Yeah.
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There's been a lot of discussion.
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Yes.
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A lot of discussion.
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Lots of it, lots of it.
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But we'll talk about the book first, you know, and the merits of the book itself, and then go into all of that.
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So the book itself.
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I think we gave it a fair shake.
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Yeah, we're gonna give it a fair shake.
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A dystopian romance filled with politics, couple pew-pume attempts.
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It's enemies to lovers, unexpected arranged marriage arranged marriage.
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Okay, we have HM Wolf, who's from Florida.
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We know a lot of Florida people these past couple.
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I think Albert Son.
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Yes, Tron wasn't it?
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Oh, a lot of Florida is right now.
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All right, pretty Ricky.
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Exactly.
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We need to start playing some pretty Ricky in the background.
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Dang.
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Very hard.
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So the book itself was originally self-published before it went viral on booktop and landed her a seven-figure publishing deal.
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Bam.
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Bam.
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Yeah.
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Love that.
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So, of course, you know, we we talk about all the mess, all the good stuff here on this show.
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So we like Tina said, we can talk about the book, give it a full shake, but the controversy, alleged, let's say it again for y'all, alleged AI generation, and the fact that her book itself had the main character having dark skin, and then when the new cover came out, it wasn't given that at all.
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The girls had a lot to say.
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So, first, what are y'all drinking?
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What is everybody drinking?
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I got a good old coffee because it's 11:45 in the morning.
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But look at this cup, how cute is this cup?
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Yeah, we can't.
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It has little I got at Michael's a couple months back.
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That's super cute.
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I love that.
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I've been seeing Marshall's Michaels, and I think it's like TJ Maxx have been on this book lovers run.
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So they have like a lot of cutesy stuff.
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So I need to go back in there and really see if I can hunt down some stuff.
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I'm gonna need to check it out.
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Because I only got one little book mug right now.
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I would like to.
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I had another one.
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My dad broke it when he was here.
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Very upset.
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Dang pops.
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Because he's like a freaking bowl in a china shop.
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He really is.
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But Michaels has a whole like Shakespeare, Romeo, and Juliet collection.
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Uh, right now, and you know I love I love me some Willie Shakespeare, so I'm gonna get some of that.
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Uh uh.
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Yes, we love some.
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I got a bootleg espresso martini.
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It's so pretty though.
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You do have glasses, like, oh my god.
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That's like my thing.
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I like to collect cups.
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Glasses for me.
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Yeah.
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You should design, you should design our merchandise.
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Our pop box cup merchandise.
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I can do that.
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It's coming soon.
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It's coming soon.
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Um, I'm drinking a sangria.
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What's it called?
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Oh, yeah, sangria mimosa.
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Which I'm calling a sunrise mimosa because it looks like sunrise money.
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I love it.
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Yeah.
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It's not bad.
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So how many clinks are we giving this book, guys?
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Honestly, I loved it.
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I did, I'm gonna I did sweet.
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I'm gonna give it six.
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I'm gonna give it six out of five.
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Six out of five.
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I I love you know I love me some enemy clever.
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And like I told you, the when they when they had the little scene, they were shooting at each other, then they I'm like, oh my god.
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I'm not gonna lie, that scene was fire.
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Join the dark.
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It was definitely given Mr.
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and Mrs.
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Smith.
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It was given Mr.
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and Mrs.
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Smith.
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I like that a lot.
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Um, I'm gonna give it five.
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One, two, three, four, five, five clinks.
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I loved it.
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Yes, a couple notes.
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But love something together at the same time.
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Excellent.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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So I'm gonna honestly, y'all.
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I'm gonna give it five too.
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Taking out all the controversy and all the crazy stuff away from it, it was a really good book.
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It was, it was.
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Yeah, she just yeah, we're gonna talk about it.
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I was about to say, when I I initially wasn't gonna read before you suggested it, because I think it was a few months back, is when you said, like, oh, she had changed how Shadira looks, and I was like, I don't know.
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That put a bad taste in my mouth.
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But I was like, you know what?
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Let me and all of a sudden I'm just sitting here, just like devouring it.
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Like, oh my god.
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Yeah, immediately, yeah, immediately too.
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And I wish it wouldn't have had all this extra stuff around it because it was really good.
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Because I I think I read it first and I was like, y'all read this.
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Yeah, and this is before all the crazy happened.
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I was like, hey, shorty, why you do that?
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Yeah, yeah, it's literally been in my Kindle um library like for months because you told us maybe even a year ago, I want to.
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Yeah, probably when it first came out, yeah.
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And this is the first time I had a chance to read it, and I wish I read it beforehand, but you know, yeah, all in a good time.
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Um yeah, it was great.
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Loved it.
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All right, y'all ready to dig into the questions?
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Yes, yeah.
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Let's go on.
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Okay, so the first one.
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So, were you rooting for Grayson?
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And is it Shadir?
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Shader.
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I would say Shadir.
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She actually has a pronunciation guide at the back of the book.
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Hold on.
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But yeah, get down.
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Oh, hold on.
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You know what?
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That's why physical books.
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Yes.
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I gotta I gotta start back in.
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I I really only use my Kindle for books where it's like I know I wanna like my really, really, really smut books where I don't want anyone to know the evidence that I read.
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I just put it right back to Kindle.
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Okay, there you go.
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Where is it?
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It is yeah, Shadira.
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Shadeira.
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Okay.
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So were you rooting for Grayson and Shadira to overcome their initial initial hatred?
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Why or why not?
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Yeah, I was immediately because I like you one thing she did a great job of exploring is how power dynamics affect all involved parties.
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And you could see immediately that there was no there was no um there was no innocent parties, but everybody was a bit of a you know.
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So I was waiting for them for sure.
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I was, but it wasn't.
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I want them to not hate each other.
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And I say this because I I'm in love with Jameson.
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That's that's my that's my bias.
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Is Jameson.
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This is fair.
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I know it's gonna be slower, so I know she's not gonna.
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I feel it's very PETA, PETA and what's his face, Gail.
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All over again.
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Yeah, like I know she's looking at up with Jameson.
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Yeah.
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But I do, I I was very upset that we didn't have like a full on spicy scene.
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Because I really need them to like really get into it.
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And then I think that'll like scratch an itch, but yes, I don't want them to hate each other.
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Like, I know No, no, you're fine, but it's like what you said, like everybody's a victim, so I don't want them to hate each other because like the real enemy is Grayson's dad.
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Yeah, but yeah.
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Oh god.
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What's Maximus?
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He was too yeah, yeah.
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Y'all both like that was a villain.
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That was such a good villain.
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Like, I love a good villain.
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I'm not gonna hold y'all like the you you are real evil right now.
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Like, he he was on another one.
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Um y'all, I know this is not in the questions, but like, who are y'all picturing for these people?
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Because I got people on the room.
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You already know.
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I know them, I know outside of Callum the men are white.
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I understand that.
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But like I said last week, my brain was because I uh because I looked at the pictures, I looked at the pictures on her Instagram.
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That's why I know that the men are white.
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But for for me, Jamison, like I said last week, is is Wano, the K-pop singer.
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And that's only because he has silver hair right now, and he's muscular.
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Gotcha.
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So that's Jameson to me.
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Grayson?
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I don't even I don't know who Gracie would be for me.
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I picture like because again, I'm based off of her pictures online.
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Henry Cavill, who played like Superman fits, I mean he's also kind of old now.
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So probably not.
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I'm trying to think.
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He is a light-skinned actor, he has light eyes, and I feel like he played on all of the Was it Gray's Anatomy?
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Oh, Jesse, he's a little, he's a unlike him.
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He is look up his his controversy.
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Look at his controversy.
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Why?
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He divorced his wife, he divorced his good wife who stood beside him for like all these freaking years during his his his come-up, divorced her.
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Now he's with some Spaniard lady, knocked her up.
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Oh, wow.
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So I loved him too.
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But I got beef with him.
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I think for Callum Jesse Williams.
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Yes.
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For Callum, I'm picturing Callum.
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I'm picturing one is Aaron Pierre, because you know I just love that man.
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But there's another actor, he's not like a big actor, but he's on the new iteration of a different world.
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He plays um Ron's son.
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He has locks and he's got green eyes.
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Go look him up.
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I forgot his name.
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I don't know his name.
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But he's so fine.
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The new of a different world.
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I'm ready for that to come out.
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I thought that's gonna be really good.
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And I hope that's not late.
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Oh yeah.
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Um Shadeira.
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Yeah.
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Ooh.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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She gotta wait.
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Dumb day I can't find his name.
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Caleb something, it's something something the fourth.
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Ooh.
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Why can't we see her?
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Locus he's a with the way.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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Shadeira, I I'm seeing somebody in my head, but I forgot her name.
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What does she play on?
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Um, she I'm pick everybody I'm picking is like old.
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They're not old, but they're old for the for the for the Dwanda Wise.
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I'm thinking of Dwanda Wise.
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But she's that's who I was thinking.
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You know, that's literally who was in my head the whole time.
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The girl they picked for the new storm.
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She's pretty, yeah.
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I can see that too.
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Which one?
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The new storm in the new Marvel movies.
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The one that plays the new storm.
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No, she was doing some Broadway stuff.
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I can see that.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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It's hard.
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My Maximus is the old white dude from Hades too.
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Oh, he listened.
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You were in love with it.
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Listen, we let me tell you something we're here.
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We watched.
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It was me, Tia, and her niece.
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We went to go see the Hades Town and when it came into theaters.
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And I forgot she has a thing for deep voices.
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Okay, this man has a deep voice.
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And he comes on with his white hair in his suit, his tattoos.
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And Persephone's like, you're early.
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And his in his deep ass voice is like, Oh, I missed you.
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And all I hear is, oh, I was like, oh.
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Rikia, you got to watch it.
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It's on streaming.
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That was my first time seeing Hades Town.
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This month?
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Next month, I think.
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Okay.
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No, no, it's available right now.
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But you have to buy it.
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It's on Apple.
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Yeah, yeah, it's on Prime and Apple TV.
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And I think it's coming on DVD.
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Oh, I think it's coming on DVD October 22nd, so I'm waiting for that to come out.
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So that I could just watch it.
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Okay.
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I don't mind.
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I will pay, friend.
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I will come to your house if you want to watch it.
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I'll come to your house when we watch it together.
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But I tell you, that movie was so good, but me and Ryder.
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He he is so good.
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Like I would watch him in everything.
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The Golden Age.
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Yeah.
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And now his old deep ass.
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I didn't I didn't see him.
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Like I didn't notice him there though, but like in the sound boy.
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Yeah.
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The aura was strong.
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And his voice is super deep and commanding.
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She's getting she's getting excited right now.
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Not commanding.
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She's a cluster.
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Very commanding.
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That's my maximus.
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If they ever do this, well, they are right.
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They're doing this.
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I don't know.
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Or should I?
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I don't know.
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Not that I know.
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Am I remembering that wrong?
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It's something.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, if they do, that needs to be Maximus, period.
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Should we explain what the book is about?
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I feel like we jump into this just assuming.
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Because my brain is, if you're listening to I'm not sure.
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We do this every brain is like if you're listening to this and you already read the books, we don't really have to explain what the book is about, because why would you listen to it if you don't know what it's about?
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And you want spoilers?
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I gave a little bit.
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Yeah.
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And I feel like most of yeah.
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I I feel like most of the people do, but like maybe everybody don't.
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So we'll synopsis.
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So let's think of a good rundown.
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You said enemies to lovers, dystopian.
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The world's kind of like I feel like it's a little deep-rooted hatred because Shidera doesn't like their family because of essentially what their family did to hers.
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That's true.
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But they're also like her her family.
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Well, her mom and dad.
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But then they like subjugated, like so basically there's yes, spoilers.
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There's three rings.
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You have the heart where all like the rich elite people live.
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Then you have the cardinal on the outer the middle circle where like the workers live.
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And then you have the boundary, which is the outermost circle, where like pretty much the poorest, poorest of the poor.
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You remember that?
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What?
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Um, they live there, so they get scraps.
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Not even scraps, they don't get medicine, they get like the little bits of their ration food and stuff like that.
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So the heart is like really, really evil.
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No, no freshwood.
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And Shadira is a part of the Dagamals, which are mercenaries, they're hired killers, and she gets a contract to kill Grayson Sorrell, the heir to the presidency of the heart.
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It goes wrong, and in the heart, they have to wear all of the elites wear masks, which I think that's a question on there, and but Grayson takes his mask off.
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When he's about to die, and the only way that another person can see you without your mask on is if that's your spouse.
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So now they have to get married.
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And their dad, the dad's like, you're gonna marry her.
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And yeah, then they they live together, they get to know each other.
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Like Gracie realizes he's a victim, they get horny for each other.
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That's it, and that's what happens.
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It looks like it does.
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Because that ending when you find out who is who is five.
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Oh, yeah, but okay.
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I'm I'm while you I have the notion page up right now.
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So while you go through the questions, Ricky, I'm gonna oh no, you have to say your your actress, I'm gonna add another question because I forgot to do that.
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Okay, and I feel like we can kind of talk about that too, because I feel like that was a big point for me was the mask that they had to wear.
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So it says the characters hid a lot from each other.
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When does hiding the truth cross the line from protection to betrayal?
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Let me see.
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That's a great question.
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I said I feel like there's not even no you go.
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You gotta go ahead.
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You go first, because I feel like I'm so simple.
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I felt it coming.
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I just said sometimes I'll think on it.
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It's for your own good.
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Sometimes I feel like not necessarily little white lies because you're not supposed to be lying to anybody.
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And you know how we feel about the word lying anyway, telling stories, whatever.
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You're not supposed to be doing that.
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But I said, again, I say this all the time.
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Sometimes your right hand cannot know what your left hand is doing for your own good, whether it's your internal benefit, external benefit, or the people around you.
00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:43.279
Like just do what I'm telling you to do, please.
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Yes, yes, it's pretty much the same where it's like, like you said, not like a little white lie, but almost like not, I guess, like sugarcoating the truth of like to not hurt somebody.
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And I feel like they crossed the line with a lot of times, because there were some parts in the book where it's like, y'all just need to tell each other everything because you're all doing the same thing, there's different ways of doing it.
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If we just came together to do it, it would be fine.
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But there were certain moments where it was like, damn, what time could have been saved if they would have just told each other sooner?
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I think.
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Yeah, and then of course, then you have the betrayal with the the brother reveal.
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Brooker.
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What a dumb name.
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That was the biggest one for Brooker.
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That was such a stupid name.
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.799
But the biggest betrayal with well, the two betrayals with Brooker.
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You have the one of like them thinking that he's dead, but then he's not dead, and then this the last I feel like the last reveal I kind of figured that was gonna happen.
00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:58.319
But that kind of irritated me when he came out to be evil.
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I did I don't know if I felt it.
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Yeah, I I didn't feel it coming.
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But I did love you.
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It was that was a good, that was a good twist for me.
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Um sorry.
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And like my thing is if you if you were a dagger mouth, would you have killed him anyway?
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Like for me, as a dagger mouth, if I don't trust somebody and somebody from the heart is coming in as like a spy or whatever, I'm gonna still think you're a double agent spy.
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.799
I'm not gonna be like, oh no, you're on our side, I'm gonna murk you anyway.
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.200
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:36.160
I feel like they were too trusting when they shouldn't have been and then vice versa.
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Yeah.
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And I think that's the thing with the masks, like I just think about like Lord, I'm always taking stuff to you.
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I'm gonna say it anyway.
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I just think about I just think about like our current privacy concerns, right?
00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:58.799
Like, they didn't have no privacy there.
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But at the same time, they had the benefit of masks.
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:05.839
Well, like, we don't even got that.
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:13.920
But like that was almost like like a way for them to be who they really were in secret if they wanted to.
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:16.880
Yeah, if that does that make sense, yeah.
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:33.839
So it was like they yeah, they were there there was betrayal, but I feel like um it was almost like because of the situation they were in, they didn't some of them.
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:43.759
I mean, I get why they were guarded with their secrets, I get why they were keeping secrets because you really can't trust nobody, as we can see, with the brother coming back from the dead.
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Like and they're always being watched, they're always being watched.
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That's my thoughts on that.
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:54.400
Yeah, possibly I got some right there.
00:26:57.039 --> 00:26:58.160
That's one of the ones too.
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It says the population of the heart have more luxuries than those in the Cardinal and the Boundary, but they're still under mass surveillance from the Vera.
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And they're are they truly free?
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:12.640
And do you think the people of the heart realize they are living under the illusion of freedom?
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.319
Well, as we can see, the women do.
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.480
I think yeah, I don't know.
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:35.519
I think the men, especially if they're not as close to them, like like Grayson, he he knew immediately because he's like right up under the president, where Maximus has immediate control over his life.
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:53.119
But if you're one of the guards, like we can see that a lot of the guards were all in because they had power being affiliated with the heart, they had power over their wives, they had power over their daughters, so they had no reason to be in discomfort.
00:27:53.599 --> 00:28:00.240
Whereas the women, as we can see, they was all bruised up, banged up, beat on, whatever else.
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And the the mask did not help them in that case.
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The mask covered it all.
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I forgot what chapter it was, but there was a point where like Lyra had a thought of oh, I think she was like when she was training to fight, but like she had to do it in secret, and she had said something about like oh, like wanting to be like Shadira because in the boundary, like you don't have that, which I think was really interesting because you have this area where it's really restricted when it comes to what the heart is giving them, but those like societal, like patriarchal rules like don't exist.
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:36.000
It kind of reminds this.
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:44.480
Um this is you said you take stuff too, do you the thought that I had was take this way back, were the Mongols back in the day.
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:54.480
So the Mongolians against Khan, the women were allowed to fight as well, and then you they of course went against like Imperial China, where the women were very demure, very quiet, and they couldn't do that.
00:28:54.559 --> 00:29:09.119
But you have these women that were out here riding horses, killing people, people too, and Lyra is over here being like, Well, I want to do that, and I think in a way, don't get me in trouble.
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:11.359
My FBI agent that's listening.
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.119
In a way, in a way, we we live like that too.
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I think we're under the illusion of freedom, too, the illusion of choice.
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Think about it.
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:28.640
You go to something as small as a grocery store, all of these choices of all of these different like cereals and like salad dressings and food, but at the end of the day, they're all owned by the same exact corporation.
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:32.640
So you're really not choosing much.
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.279
No, and we see it, yeah, we see it all the time.
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:51.920
So no, I think I think the women, even though we don't hear from them as much, I don't think I think they realize that they are living under that illusion of freedom.
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:59.279
Because again, they it literally says that like once you become married, you s you stand behind your husband, you don't say anything.
00:29:59.920 --> 00:30:02.799
But the men do.
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:10.799
I think the men live under the illusion of freedom because they have that proximity to power, but then that power can be taken away the minute you say something bad about the president.
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.680
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:32.000
I think this was like kind of dipping into, I know we're gonna talk about it more in depth later, dipping into the controversy of everything, it it confuses me how we're on these things, but the colorism is still intact.
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:39.200
Because for me, this is also a symbol of white supremacy.
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:46.240
It's like kind of what we were talking about last episode, where it affects everybody, you think.
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:53.920
Yeah, you have privilege within the system, but ultimately you're also enslaved by that same system.
00:30:55.839 --> 00:31:01.279
You're silenced by that same system, you can't be yourself by that same system.
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:11.119
So it's like I don't understand how we're developing such uh deep themes in a book and not understanding it outside of feminism.
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:13.680
It's like I okay, I don't know.
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:24.400
But I think it's almost like the white feminism where it's just you know focused on the woman part and not the intersectionality of womanhood.
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:26.559
But yeah.
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.160
Ooh, ooh, but hold on, that is brought.
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:31.519
You have okay, sorry.
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:36.720
Let me I got my little my little hold on, let me open it up.
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:46.880
Okay, it's a scene uh okay, it's a scene where on page 87 where she gets arrested for trying to kill Grayson.
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:56.799
Um, and she said, one of the women in the in the jail says, even if he lives, you hurt him, you made him bleed.
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:58.400
A smile flickered over her lips.
00:31:58.480 --> 00:31:59.359
That's all that matters.
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:00.640
That's fuel to the rebellion.
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:08.799
And then Shadira says, I didn't do this as an act of rebellion, I didn't do this for the cause, which I found very interesting.
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:38.079
One I found interesting that the white man, Jameson, he's all for like, we're gonna free everybody, and then you have Shadira who's just like, no, no, we're not, and I find that interesting because I feel like when we read dystopian novels, a lot of time the popular ones, a white woman is the hero of it who really does these things, but we we see in real life that that's not usually the case.
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.240
No, think of think about the protests now.
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:44.240
Like when when black when we said, Well no, we're sitting out of this, we're not doing this anymore.
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:48.799
What's happening?
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:49.519
What's going on?
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:51.599
Like, we don't see it happening.
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:55.839
Yeah, cut in the right corner, and now it's like so.
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:57.359
I think I thought that was interesting.
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:08.640
Where like you have a you have a black woman who's just like, No, I didn't do this for that, like I just did it because I just wanted to kill him because it was looking for revenge for her.
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:10.480
That's true, yeah.
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:19.519
She did it very it was very individualistic and not like community, and not saying that that the white male character can't be in community.
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.880
I'm not saying that because I was someone to listen to it and be like, hmm.
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.359
But I just think it was an interesting choice.
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.519
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say more.
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:36.880
Yeah, I'm gonna say more about that later when we when we finish talking about the book because yeah, I got thoughts.
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:52.559
I don't think any of them were free, or even I feel like the overall illusion of freedom, because like you said, the men themselves, their freedom only came from the top, and their freedom came with hurting other people.
00:33:53.519 --> 00:34:03.279
And then with the women, none of them are truly free because I can only do what you tell me to do, and then even when I do what I want to do, it's still a chance that somebody can hurt me.
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:03.839
Yeah.
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:05.759
And essentially it's alive and well.
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:07.119
And I really like this quote too.
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.199
It's on page 68 and 69.
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.719
It says, to see what's to possess and to know what's to own.
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:18.639
The vow ceremony wasn't just to tradition, it was the foundation of the heart's social order.
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:24.960
With this logic, what would mean for the woman has to just as much ownership of her husband as he does to her?
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:26.800
Double standard.
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:32.480
Very much double standard.
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:43.840
Going back to Lyra wishing she could train, it's like, dang, she can't even do self-defense for herself.
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.559
She can't learn self-defense publicly.
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:52.079
We see their mom being horrifically abused.
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:59.760
Those scenes made me so uncomfortable, and it's like, wow, oh my gosh, so terrible, so terrible.
00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:03.360
I yeah, that was a you know.
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:07.360
I mean, this is good, I don't know how to say this any other way, but that was such a creative torture scene.
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.519
Like, I've never heard of being doing shit like that.
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:17.039
Like the mind, like, how did you just crazy?
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:22.480
And I think I have you have some men, we see glimpses of some men who don't agree.
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:31.360
You have Callum, who has outly said he doesn't like misogyny, you have um Grayson who is the same way.
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:50.480
So I'd like to think that there are men in the heart who don't adhere to that, at least privately, and think that ties back to the freedom because like publicly they can't they can't tell their wife to like stand next to them because they're gonna die.
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.480
Like, what do you mean you're doing this?
00:35:52.880 --> 00:36:21.199
But I'd like to think that there are some who didn't agree with that, but it's one of those situations where it's like you have a law that absolutely makes no sense, and we see this even in our own laws where you have the law of of self-defense, like oh, this the X, Y, and Z is okay as long as you do it within self-defense, but how many women do you have you seen that like are getting the shit beaten out of them by their husband and they do something about it, and then they're in jail?
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.760
But I thought I was protected under self-defense.
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:25.360
What do you what do you mean?
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:41.199
I saw a statistic the other day that said at least two-thirds of the women in prison are there for killing their abuser or hurting their abuser or protecting their children.
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.400
And it is just disgusting to me.
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:50.800
Like, I don't know if y'all seen that um that black woman who's currently in jail.
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.599
Um, and I feel like they're working on her case now, so prayerfully, not for long.
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:57.920
But she was being abused by her husband.
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:04.239
He slammed her head into the counter when she was six months pregnant, she stabbed his leg, okay?
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.039
So obviously not even intending on killing him.
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:12.960
Yeah, yeah, but he did die, so he was a bitch anyway, getting killed from stabbing the leg.
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:15.440
And she's in prison.
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.360
I'm just yes, he is a bitch, but you know what I'm saying?
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.599
Like, damn, like she didn't even intend to kill him, and y'all charging her with murder.
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.000
And it's it's always like that.
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:37.519
It's like you have to prove that one, you're being abused, or or even to get like uh, what is it?
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:38.480
The the piece of paper.
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:43.440
Like he has to physically do something to you first to get a restraining order.
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.400
Like, no, I'm telling you, these are the signs I thought this man is gonna hurt me.
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.639
I'm at fear for my life, fear for my children's life.
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:50.800
He has to hurt me for you to do that.
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:52.480
But what do those restraining orders do?
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:56.400
Nothing, because nine times out of ten that he's gonna come out and do something anyway.
00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:00.880
They don't care, and they don't enforce it, they don't care at all.
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.400
And what's crazy is I mean, how many men do we know who have killed people in self-defense?
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:07.840
They ain't in prison, right?
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:09.679
The baby walking around.
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:17.840
Matter of fact, I think he got two bodies.
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:19.599
Look, he got away with it.
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.880
Crazy, and then I feel like lost too.
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:27.039
With um, what's the other one?
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:27.920
I think it's crazy.
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:32.079
Like if somebody breaks into your house and they hurt themselves, they can sue you.
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:34.880
You stay in my house, yes.
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.440
You can I have it's true.
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:40.960
I can't think of the name of it, but let's just say somebody was to break into my house.
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.199
Yeah, like it's literally covered under my rent's insurance.
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.079
What trip over, maybe trip over one of Coda's toys or something and liability.
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.920
Break their leg, they can sue me, even though they break my house.
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:55.599
Even when they break your leg.
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.119
See, I never actually read my rent's insurance.
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:03.599
I would always just get it, like, sign in the what?
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:05.599
Get out of here.
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.280
That is so stupid.
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:08.639
Yeah.
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:33.440
I literally got liability insurance for that, and it is crazy, but you know, laws in this in this country are hopefully don't shut my mic down, but I'm just saying, like, it's none of the laws are common sense laws, they're all administrative shit built to uphold the patriarchy and white supremacy, and that's all I gotta say.
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:34.400
Quit before your head.
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:36.880
So I wholeheartedly agree.
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:38.559
I agree.
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:45.360
And then even going back to the book, too, I'm trying to think like I'm signing up to marry you.
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:53.119
Whether I love you or not, it's an arranged marriage, it's still some sort of respect and overall care for me because I am your wife.
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:58.320
What man is okay with all these other men griping yes?
00:39:58.480 --> 00:39:59.519
That's the other that's the law.
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:00.559
Why is that a thing?
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:01.599
Oh my god.
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:13.519
And that was what that's and not only does it it happen, you allow other people to watch it as if it's some event, like a a book or a movie or a freaking thing.
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.440
What I want y'all to know that this is real that there's some.
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.719
I think was it more was it Mormons or like Amish people or something like that?
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:33.679
Where it's like they have they had like well no, even back in the day, they had to have proof that the that the that the marriage was consummated, so they would have like people in the room, like when it would happen.
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:42.800
So that's what I thought she was getting to, and then you get to the end where like Lyra's like, no, this is this is really what goes on, and just like excuse excuse me.
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:49.119
So I'm yeah, not only so there definitely was royals.
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:57.039
I mean, pretty much all the royals that had an audience for the consummation of the marriage, but even the having sex with the wife.
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:01.280
I don't know if y'all like okay, I was reminded of this because I just read Beowulf.
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:03.440
Was it Beowulf?
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:04.320
I love it.
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:05.519
It was Beowulf.
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:12.960
And yeah, no, the thank you for saying Grendel because it's not Beowulf, it's the Epic of Gilgamesh.
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:13.519
That's what it is.
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:15.440
The Epic of Gilgamesh.
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:27.199
And I don't know if y'all remember, but Gilgamesh was a crazy ass king at the beginning, and he took the law of first, I can't remember the name of it now, but law first something.
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.599
Basically, whenever somebody in his kingdom got married, he got to sleep with one person.
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:33.920
Yeah, and that was a real thing.
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.280
That disgusting that's just insane.
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:42.800
So disgusting, disgusting, and then even with Maximum, that was your daughter.
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:47.679
That broke my your daughter, and you're allowing people to hurt her like that.
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:48.719
Terrible.
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:49.920
He is ugh.
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:50.880
I hate that man.
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:55.760
I hate that man with everything inside a terrible villain.
00:41:57.840 --> 00:41:58.480
Yeah.
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:02.079
There's so much in this book.
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:09.920
Like I that it was so many people that had the right to kill him.
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:11.199
Literally.
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.280
I'm so glad that it was his wife.
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.719
Off with his head! Oh, yeah, listen.
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:20.880
Yeah, immediately.
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.960
That was so satisfying.
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:24.719
Go mom.
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:27.039
Go mom.
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:29.199
Go mom.
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:30.639
Go mom is buddy.
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:42.880
Oh, and y'all, can can we talk about the fact that a lot of this kingdom was due to the Yes! Yes! Because the the vowel is the she wrote a lot of this into Larry.
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:44.480
And that you know what that reminded me of too?
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.960
And that was a question I forgot to put on there.
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:49.679
Um, did I put it on there?
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:50.239
Because I was looking.
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:51.039
No, I didn't.
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:52.960
Um, what's that show in the book?
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:56.719
The Handmaid's Tale with the main guy's wife.
00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:03.360
So yeah, and like she's thinking, like, oh, like it's that it's and we see it in real time too.
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:16.320
It's like these a lot of these women try to tie themselves to the patriarchy as if they can be like a part of it, but at the end of the day, like, no, you're still gonna get screwed over, and you see it time and time again.
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:21.280
The patriarchy is not going to save you because, again, they don't like you either.
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.840
You are not exempt from that rule.
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:28.239
Even with like Lyra, like, okay, these are white women vote against their interests and everything.
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:33.679
And then they get surprised when something happens, and it's like, we told you this, we told you this, but you don't want to listen.
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:40.960
Even like with Lyra, where she controlled the she controlled the media as if that was like this big thing.
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:56.239
What's like, okay, no, but look at look what you have to deal with, or you what you had to deal with, as unfortunate as that is, and that's it literally reminded me of of Sir Serena Joyce or whatever the hell her name was in that.
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:56.719
Yeah.
00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:58.719
Serena Joy Sarah.
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:02.719
We talked about that last week too.
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:03.280
Yeah.
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:05.039
We did.
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.679
I feel like all this stuff is coming in like full circle.
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:16.400
And then even talking about like Lyra, her actual soul rebellion, regardless of the fact that that was the main one was kind of like a wash from the beginning.
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:18.639
Do y'all feel like hers was selfish?
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:20.320
Yes.
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.400
That was a very that was that was a white woman.
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:23.679
That was a white woman move.
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:25.840
100% move.
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:30.719
Oh because again, like what do you mean?
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.119
I'm gonna just I'm sorry, but I'm not sticking to the point.
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:34.639
I'm gonna just do what I want to do.
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:37.760
After all this preparation, baby.
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:51.119
It's like I'm the one thing it's like okay, again, it the original plan, you find out, okay, well, that went shh SOL the minute it happened, so it's like okay, but what if it didn't?
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:57.760
What if what if everything went according to how it was, and then you fucked it up because you had your own personal vendetta?
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.480
Rightfully so, yeah, rightfully so against your dad.
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.960
You wanted to help all the women.
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:04.480
I get that, I appreciate that.
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:15.360
But it's one of those we talk about all the time is doing things for the collective for the greater good of everything, and that was such a so that was a typical selfish white woman move.
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:18.880
I am so sorry, yeah, Lyra.
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.320
She kind of irritated me throughout the book, honestly.
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:23.280
She did.
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:28.880
But when she did that, I was just like, this bitch, like you idiot.
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:34.719
And then now look, the women still had a now now the women are all in prison now because of what you did.
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:35.920
Yeah, and it was quick.
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.199
Like immediately, yeah.
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:51.679
Like, and this is sorry, I'm gonna bring it to current events again because this is what I do, but this is what I mean by like that symbolist symbol symbolic activism.
00:45:54.079 --> 00:46:00.880
Is it good that these women felt finally free to take off their masks and show everyone their scars and da-da-da-da?
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:02.719
Yeah, I guess.
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:04.880
Yes, yes, no, no, 100%.
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:06.639
Yes, okay, it's right, it's right.
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:08.000
Okay, I'm glad that they did that.
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.880
However, there was a bigger picture here.
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.239
We were trying to take down the whole system.
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:18.000
Y'all going to jail does not further that system.
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.320
There was more we could have done here.
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.440
We could have gotten farther than we did in this situation.
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:37.039
But regardless of what Maximus knew and didn't know, I feel like despite him knowing, there was still more that could have been done.
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:37.679
Yeah.
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:40.480
Had she not done that.
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:45.599
But she wanted the symbolic something for TV.
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.440
Or like Shiva could have she could have waited until the wedding ceremony.
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:57.760
I understand she didn't want Shadira to go through all of that or whatever, but you could have you could have just I don't know, shot everybody in the consummation thing.
00:46:57.840 --> 00:46:58.559
Like, I don't know.
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:00.639
Like you could have done that.
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:01.440
Yeah.
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:03.519
We could have gathered all of them in a room.
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:04.960
Like set the shit on fire.
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:05.679
Like, come on.
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.039
It's it's things we could have done.
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:07.599
I don't know.
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:11.199
Took a uh page out of the formatory, burn everybody in it.
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:12.159
Literally, literally.
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:16.559
After you give it up, you give a whole entire speech behind you don't want to keep secret from each other anymore.
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:18.719
You gotta lay everything out on the table.
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:21.360
And now your man's dead.
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:22.320
Yeah.
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:24.559
Because that's her fault.
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:26.400
That made me sad because I like him.
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.079
Uh don't talk to me about Calum.
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:36.880
He was the one dude I never disliked during the entire book.
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:37.360
Exactly.
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:38.800
You disliked Jameson?
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:40.159
Everybody else I can do.
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:41.679
You disliked Jameson at some point.
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.840
Jameson got on my nerves at one point, too.
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:44.239
Yeah.
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:44.880
Sorry.
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:48.320
I mean, I didn't dislike him, but at one point he did annoy me.
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:48.559
Yeah.
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.000
Because why are you trying to go in there and save her by yourself?
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:53.920
That don't make no damn sense.
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:55.519
And that's typically she's on a damsel.
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:56.320
She's not a damsel.
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:57.519
Aside.
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:00.159
She can handle her own.
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:01.119
She knows how to handle herself.
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:03.119
You thought she was selfish?
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.280
So there was a point that he annoyed me.
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:05.760
Fine.
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:06.719
Yeah.
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:11.280
I feel like it was a look at me.
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:12.880
Look what I can do.
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.760
I feel like that was that was the center.
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:21.280
That was the center.
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.400
I feel like that was the main reason of why she did that.
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:30.559
And then granted, there were some good things that surrounded it, but at the core, that was the reason.
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.119
And look at how it ended up.
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:34.719
Yeah.
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:35.599
Mm-hmm.
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:42.960
And she did, I feel like I might be making this up, but she did make some kind of statement of taking her power back.
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:44.480
It's not about you, bitch.
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.519
Sorry.
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:47.360
Exactly.
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:48.800
I think I actually wrote that.
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:49.920
This time it's not about it.
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:50.960
I think it's about your power.
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:54.079
Take it back into individually.
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.039
I wrote that down.
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:56.239
Almost post it.
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:57.920
It's not about you.
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:04.079
You got people that are being systematically starved to death and about to get gassed up.
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:07.440
Go away.
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:08.719
Stupid.
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:09.519
Yeah.
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:11.280
Craziness.
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:12.400
Anyway.
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:20.800
We kind of been talking a lot about like people getting pew-kuned or burnt up or gassed up a little bit.
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.280
So, how do we feel if we go back to the book?
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:28.880
It says 23 dead that day, 12 of them children.
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:37.440
Do you think the emphasis on children suggest that their deaths are meant to be viewed as more tragic or shocking than the deaths of the adults?
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:40.559
I wrote that question.
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:41.760
Yes.
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:46.880
I wrote that question because I think we see that in real life today.
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:54.960
Um and let's take it to my can't my microphone's really gonna get shut off right now.
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:56.159
Jesus Christ.
00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:01.920
With with what's happening in Gaza, what has continued to happen for the past three years.
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.840
I remember seeing so much emphasis on the children, the children, the children.
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:12.480
Yes, it's tragic, but they're they're all dying, they're all getting killed.
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.519
It shouldn't hold more weight than another.
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:16.159
Yes.
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:18.559
I believe the children are our future.
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:22.000
Teach them well and let them lead the way, in the words of Whitney Houston.
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:28.800
But it's like you have this whole community that is dying, but she and she says it like over and over and over again.
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:34.000
And I kinda kind of got myself getting annoyed with that.
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:42.400
Because I think it I think all of it should have carried equal weight of them dying.
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:54.639
Because he's not just killing children, he's killing women and men and fathers and mothers and sons and daughters because he wants more rich people from another town over to come in.
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:58.400
Hopefully that question made sense.
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.800
Because I know someone's gonna get have a lot of different things.
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:01.519
No, it did.
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:05.360
But I don't know.
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:18.480
I feel like I have a slightly different viewpoint when it comes to children because I feel like that's something that you always hear about, or certain things that are instilled, is like you look out for babies, old people, and folks.
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:33.920
So with children, it's a innocence that surrounds them, and a lot of times they haven't been tainted by the world, so it's like you're essentially taking them away from a place they haven't had time to experience yet.
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:40.960
Like with adults, it's certain choices that we make that could make us be considered a good person or a bad person.
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:47.280
As a child, Carmere had chance to pick and choose which side they're on.
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.000
They don't have a choice to pick or choose what side they're on before somebody takes them away from here.
00:51:52.079 --> 00:52:02.960
So I feel like that that innocence portion, I feel like is what kind of gives them not a little bit more of a a leg up, but it's like dang, like it's it's a child.
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:04.880
Yeah, extra tragic.
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:05.679
Yeah.
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:11.760
And I think I I love questions like this because it it really just is more like a question of philosophy.
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:33.360
Like you said, Rikia is like really I can't, um but yeah, to Rakia's point, children, you know, the death of children is extra tragic because they haven't had a chance to experience life.
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:36.159
They don't know nothing, they ain't seen nothing.
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:48.559
As a matter of fact, none of the choices that they've had the chance to make so far have made a difference on the world, and I think that's the tragedy of it because there is no life more important.
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:53.119
Well, most of the time, it's not no life that's more important than another.
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:56.159
However, I need to stop.
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:58.320
They're gonna go get me.
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:02.480
Um there's no life that's more important than another, okay.
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:09.840
However, and and they're all they all matter, you know, it's all sad, it's all tragic.
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:23.760
But I feel like there's an extra tragedy in a baby who has only taken maybe their first steps, not being able to even know, taste what chicken tastes like yet.
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:25.760
Like little state, you know.
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:32.800
Little state, like I mean, we don't chew nothing, and you could you don't even get a chance to.
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:34.880
Like, that's I don't know about making this money.
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:36.880
Um this is my COVID mechanism.
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.159
This is a COVID mechanism, y'all.
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:49.920
I promise I'm not a psychopath, but I yeah, it's extra tragic when it's a baby because they ain't they ain't gonna experience nothing.
00:53:50.000 --> 00:54:02.480
They have not been able to make an impact on the world or make a decision that could that usually I mean because a lot of times a lot of times as an adult, you're you you can vote for your interest.
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:08.159
Maybe there's a decision you made that could affect your outcome in life or your situation.
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:09.360
They don't even get that.
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:11.599
So whatever happens to them, they just out of control.
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:12.800
That's true.
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:16.480
And yeah, I like that.
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:20.159
No, that was oof.
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:29.039
That's I feel like anytime children are involved, it is always very it's like pulls at your heart strings, pulls at your heart strings.
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.360
Okay, oh, I like this one too.
00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:39.920
So it says, How do they function as symbols of erased individuality versus protected power?
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:41.119
Oh, that was for the masks.
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:45.039
That was for the masks because I had to wear masks throughout.
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:51.519
How do y'all feel about masks in general, anyway?
00:54:51.679 --> 00:55:04.320
Because when I think about that, I think about kind of like social media, it's certain things that people will say and do on social media that they won't do in real life, and I feel like it's kind of like the same, it's the same thing.
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:11.360
I don't I don't think any of them even had their own individual well, I can't say they didn't have their own individuality.
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:16.480
Um it reminded me of?
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:19.519
It reminded me of North Korea.
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:23.280
Oh my god, I'm going to they're gonna get me too.
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:24.159
Oh my god.
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:26.559
But real dark today.
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:36.960
But how everything except from what we have seen, because you know, we nobody can go inside North Korea, but how everything is over there, like they have the same haircuts, they have the same like styles, they have all the all of these things.
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.599
So, like individuality is very much suppressed.
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:45.440
But I think the masks do that.
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:48.000
Because even all of the masks I think look the same.
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:53.199
I think Shadira's was one of the only ones that was like very different because it needed to express her.
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:55.519
But all the masks look the same.
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:59.119
It's like you can't be your own person because at the end, think of the heart.
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:04.719
The heart, if if the heart stops working, nothing else in your body is going to work.
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.280
So you all have to function the same exact way.
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:24.559
And I think for the mask itself, it was 100% protective power because again, you see at the end of the book with the women that they strip their clothes, they take their masks off and they're bruised up, they're scratched up, and their husbands are protected from that.
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:28.239
But then on the flip side, is it protective power?
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:38.400
Because when Grayson was smuggling the medicine over to the other parts, even with his mask on, he still had to be careful because it wasn't gonna protect him fully.
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:42.960
So I think it's yeah.
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:47.920
Yeah, that's that that's a deep question, too.
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:50.239
So I don't think that's that's a lot in itself.
00:56:55.199 --> 00:57:14.000
And even like I think your last statement is what really made me kind of think about a little bit more, too, because Grayson has a very close relationship with that power, like his dad is number one, he's number two, so he's not even protected anything that he does.
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:15.199
I mean, look at his brother.
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:22.880
Yeah, he got in trouble for hesitating when he killed the first person, right?
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:27.440
Yeah, ignore the fact that he still did it, but it's like, no, you hesitated.
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:30.480
Yeah, can't do that.
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:32.320
No hesitation.
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:37.920
I'm gonna put my Instagram up for the other question.
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:42.159
Repeat the question one more time if you don't mind.
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:51.599
How do they function as symbols of erased individuality versus protected power in reference to the mask that everybody had to wear?
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:54.320
Oh, okay.
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:57.280
Well, not everybody, but y'all know.
00:57:57.519 --> 00:57:58.480
I don't think I have anything to add.
00:57:58.639 --> 00:57:59.360
Y'all covered it.
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:00.079
Yeah.
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:02.000
Yeah, y'all covered it.
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:02.960
I agree.
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:21.119
And we kind of know that as far as the writing, there are some allegations going on around it.
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:27.119
So we can talk a little bit, just just a little bit, about that.
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:28.800
So Jason R.
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:36.880
Day and the three black authors that are currently faced with I AI allegations and how race does play a role in these.
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:38.639
First, rest in peace to Jason R.
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:39.119
Day.
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:42.079
He should still be here.
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.840
His was plagiarism versus AI.
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:48.880
Who the person who accused him of that is now suspended.
00:58:49.360 --> 00:59:04.400
Um but I think it goes to if a black person is like really good at something, we get questioned about it.
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:06.719
It can't be our own work.
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:13.440
Um because I think the guy who I'm not even gonna say his name because his name is so irrelevant.
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:19.599
The guy who had accused him, one, he's a a racial scientist, which we all know is a pseudoscience.
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:26.559
So he thinks that black people are mentally um not superior to white people.
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.920
I just want to add really quickly that he looks like a rat.
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.360
Anytime a white man looks like that, they get racist.
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:41.840
And then it's like, and she's ugly.
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:47.840
It's like again, this is not funny.
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:48.639
This is not my favorite.
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:58.079
But I feel like it's because a lot of times when people you're ugly on the inside and outside, oh no, pick a struggle.
00:59:58.800 --> 00:59:59.679
Please pick a struggle.
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.039
But anyway, sometimes the cover does tell you about the book.
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:10.960
I think at the time he had gotten suspended because of his work.
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:16.960
He had said something about like if meritocracy wasn't a thing, then black people wouldn't well some I don't even know.
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:18.000
I'm paraphrasing.
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:20.000
He had gotten suspended, and then Jason R.
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:26.480
Day became, I think, the young either the youngest professor at Cambridge University or the youngest black professor at Cambridge University.
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:27.119
Professor.
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:27.920
The youngest profession.
01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:29.599
And then that smears campaign started.
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:41.679
So you were mad because you got suspended, and somebody that you deemed um mentally um inferior to you gets something, and then you start this whole entire like thing.
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:57.360
And I think it's really interesting that during this time, when he was when Jason got suspended, 255 news articles were written about him, and then when he died, about I don't know, 14 were written as apologies or whatever.
01:00:57.920 --> 01:00:58.639
But whatever.
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:05.599
That's he it's the British media is relentless and evil, and they're extremely racist.
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:06.960
They did the same thing.
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:11.280
She said she wants to leave because she was right, she had suicide ideations too from being over there.
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:16.000
But they want to act like they're not racist, they're they're above that, but whatever.
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:26.639
Um but I have a a Instagram pulled up, and it says this is by the the dot plot.thicens, so I'm giving credit for it.
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:33.760
Um, it says the biggest AI authorship scandals in publishing, and all seem to have one thing in common.
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:35.119
And what is that?
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:38.079
Class, they're all black.
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:45.840
So you have Daggermouth, Shy Girl by Mia Ballard, and then Jerry Filade.
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:46.480
I hope I said that right.
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:50.400
Jerry Filade had a seven-figure book deal that got pulled and taken away.
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.280
So the book didn't even come out yet, but it got pulled.
01:01:53.599 --> 01:02:03.760
Um Jerry Filade, he himself said three black authors received major publishing deals this year, and all three later had deals canceled or disrupted following suspicious suspicions about AI.
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:12.480
Meanwhile, there are popular white white writers who have publicly mentioned using AI for their writing processes and they're still doing fine.
01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:22.000
Um Daggermouth was supposedly flagged for 60% AI generated by an academic academic study.
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:23.599
So it's not even like a real thing.
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:25.760
The publisher has stood behind her.
01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:26.320
Not at all.
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:38.320
Um Mia Ballard, who also wrote a book called Shy Girl, um, she denies using AI allegations, and a freelance editor introduced AI generated changes without her knowledge.
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:40.079
So that should go on the the editor's fault.
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:45.760
Because I feel like once you write a book and you give it to the editor, you don't really have a say in what they're doing until you get it back.
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:56.880
Um Jerry Filade, his agents withdrew his novel from a bidding war that have received over two million dollars over AI AI detection concerns.
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:08.960
Um You literally have AI machines right now who are collecting classic novels, they're feeding it through AI machines and then they're destroying the books.
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:13.599
Where do you think and some pe some people are just good authors?
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:17.760
I think writing has become so shit now that when people read a book, it's good.
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:20.320
They're like, no, that's that's AI.
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:24.079
And right really quick, I just want this is what I had a surprise last week.
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:37.039
I want you guys to go on Goodreads right now, type in dagger mouth, go to the one star reviews, and I want you to look at the demographic of people who are calling this AI slob and that the book is bad.
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:43.440
Just just entertain me for a second.
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:03.280
I'm looking at my list right now.
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:05.119
It is not up to date.
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:07.039
This was such a waste of time.
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:11.920
I'm never ever reading a book prompt that as lovers, enemies to lovers again, enemies my ass.
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:13.119
I'm sorry, I'm mad at this.
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.679
But do you see the demographic of people who are not liking it?
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:22.000
Which is interesting because I feel like this is a book that they would eat up.
01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:23.920
This is a book that they would eat up.
01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:26.960
Wouldn't it be the blue part?
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:32.880
But you're reading stuff about what is it, fourth wing and Avatar that they love, but now Shadira is annoying.
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:39.519
You don't like Shadira even though she follows the same exact prompt as every single dystopian female character ever, but now she's annoying?
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:42.000
You don't like her?
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:43.760
Yeah.
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:52.960
And you're telling me you like you don't like AI Stop, but in the same sentence, you're talking about this can't be enemies to lovers, this needs to be enemies to lusters.
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.960
Do you think that enemies you have in order to be someone's lover, you have to be in love?
01:04:57.360 --> 01:04:59.199
Do you not understand the definition of lover?
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:01.599
Is your creating comprehension that bad?
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:04.400
Well, yes.
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:05.039
Exactly.
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:18.960
And on top of that, let's just be like, and to be clear, to be clear, none of the allegations that have been, you know, positive towards these authors have been confirmed.
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:21.119
None of them, not one.
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:26.960
But AI detection software is remarkably unreliable.
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:36.320
I mean, majorly unreliable the majority of the amount of time, because spoiler alert, it's trained on human literature.
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:39.119
Hello?
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:41.840
Like, what do we think it is?
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:49.360
Like, how can something using human writing tell you that something is not human writing?
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:49.679
Okay.
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:52.239
When all it knows is human writing.
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:53.840
Wasn't hello?
01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:57.760
Wasn't there one that's in that like a Charles Dickinson book was AI?
01:05:58.480 --> 01:05:59.519
So a man who existed?
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:03.360
Before AI even like his book is AI.
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:03.920
Yes.
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:04.320
Okay.
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:08.079
Not only that, I personally I'm currently in school.
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:15.679
For the listeners who do not know, I'm currently in school, finishing up my degree, went back, and I'm writing papers all the time.
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We have to run AI detection software on a lot of my assignments.
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Is it dumb?
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:21.440
Yes.
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:29.840
But I can't tell you the number of times I've written an essay, a research paper, etc., and I got 15-20% AI.
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:31.199
I don't use AI.
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:34.079
I don't even like AI on my Google.
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But it will call it AI.
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:42.000
I had to dumb down my paper one time.
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:45.519
Do y'all understand how bullshit that is?
01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:56.159
I had to literally dumb down my paper to sound more like high school me, high school me than 34-year-old me.
01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:59.920
I'm waiting for 35-year-old me.
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:12.400
I had to dumb down my paper because I use certain things and patterns in writing that I guess sounds like AI.
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:17.920
And my professor said if my AI detection is more than 30%, I fail.
01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:20.880
That's some bullshit.
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:23.360
And I would like everybody to know that this is some bullshit.
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:24.559
Y'all racist as fuck.
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:25.440
I can't stand y'all.
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:25.920
Thank you.
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Almost love that.
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:30.159
Ignore the fact that one, we're millennials, most of these writers now are millennials.
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:33.360
We had to write essays with a rough draft.
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:35.280
We had to write a plan out first.
01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:39.360
We had to sit and write essays in one class period.
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:41.119
From what?
01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:42.880
From without a computer.
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:46.159
No, no computers.
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:49.440
And properly, properly cited.
01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:49.599
Yes.
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On top of that.
01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:54.960
You can use something, but you it had to be properly cited.
01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:56.000
Okay.
01:07:56.400 --> 01:08:00.719
In college, I'm over here writing a freaking 10-page paper a day and a half before it's due.
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:06.719
Look, 1159 seconds episode.
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:09.679
But it's AI.
01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:10.880
Okay.
01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:12.079
It's so ridiculous.
01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:19.039
And it's like some people are just smart and just better and can write.
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:20.239
Like people are good.
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:22.079
I'm so sorry.
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:23.520
But like, what?
01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:24.800
Like, how do you mad?
01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:26.880
Because our brains write well.
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:27.760
Like, I'm so sorry.
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:28.239
Sorry.
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That you still write like you intended to be.
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:32.880
You know how many people I'm so sorry, but everybody was not.
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:38.479
Yes.
01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:39.119
No, it's not.
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:40.479
It's a typical writing thing.
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:48.800
And Jay Jerry said something too, and he's a it's a troubling assumption that when a black writer produces work that attracts significant attention, the work cannot possibly be their own.
01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:52.720
So when Dagamoth came out, you have majority of black women who were loving it.
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:56.000
I don't think the AI detections were then, right?
01:08:56.479 --> 01:08:58.319
It wasn't until it became popular.
01:08:58.479 --> 01:08:59.760
Um not as much.
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:01.359
It was, but not as not yet.
01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:03.760
It got popular.
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.159
It's like, mm, this is AI.
01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:11.439
And it's just, it's not even the sad part is this is not new.
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:12.560
This is not new.
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:19.359
This is just a yet another tool that white supremacy has adopted to further subjugate black people.
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:20.720
I mean, hell.
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:24.640
We got a whole 18 seasons of alien, uh, what's it called?
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:26.960
Uh, what's that alien show?
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:29.680
Um, that used to come on history.
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:30.960
Oh, ancient aliens.
01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:31.920
Do I got beef for that show?
01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:32.800
Yeah, I had beef at that show.
01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:34.880
Ancient aliens.
01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:44.800
We got a whole 18 seasons of ancient aliens because they just could not believe that Africans could have built the pyramids, they could not have created the Sphinx.
01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:46.560
They, you know, they aliens had to come.
01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:51.760
You know, they they they read the stars, but of course the aliens had to actually do that.
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:52.159
Right.
01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:54.479
So, like, I'm I hate that show.
01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:56.720
So tired.
01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:59.199
Like, I'm uh we're very passionate about this.
01:09:59.439 --> 01:09:59.760
I'm angry.
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:00.319
Sorry.
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:04.479
No, and it's it's warrant, it's warranted.
01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:11.439
Because the point look at these, because we we had to go back and you know make sure we're citing things correctly.
01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:20.319
So looking at page 239, it says the silk clung to her curves, the white fabric stark against her dark skin.
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:20.880
Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:27.680
And then if we go to page 247, bullet wounds and gashes that puckered whites against her dark skin.
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:36.079
Mind you, when I think of physics, genetics, whatever word I'm using to describe the body, don't matter what color you are, it gets lighter.
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:39.359
So against dark skin.
01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:48.000
So if you Google dark skin, or better yet, put it in an AI, what picture does that generate?
01:10:49.039 --> 01:11:09.439
So my biggest thing with this was if you you know did the same thing with Goodreads, the very early reviews for the for this book was all black women, then it transfers over until the gaze of everybody.
01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:33.199
Now it's some type of issue, and then for the author to basically get success from black women and then flip the script when your book now has a white gaze, and now you're wondering why you have other issues, and now and the one the people that you're trying to appeal to are the ones that are are calling it AI slop.
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:43.600
We know for a fact these one you have you have black men, you you know how many like I think this was like what in 2020 where everyone's like, Oh, read more black books and blah blah blah.
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:51.119
And how many non-melanated readers were like, Well, I don't want to read that because I can't, I can't relate, I can't relate to it.
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:54.880
Mind you, we read stories with white people all the time for generations, but whatever.
01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:56.399
No one's asking you to relate.
01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:11.359
So you have this badass black woman who's over here killing people, and I know for a fact, it pissed them off that they had she had two white men fighting over her, so that may probably them feel some type of way because they couldn't insert themselves in that.
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:15.439
And I think it's interesting that the character that they do end up liking is Lyra.
01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:18.319
The annoying one.
01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:23.840
Look at me! Lyra, aka look at me like Stuart.
01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:24.880
Stuart.
01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:27.439
What are you?
01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:28.800
We're taking it back.
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:31.279
Art list of like, what are they talking about?
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:41.039
But but then I noticed if you look at her Instagram, I feel like some of the art, her skin is now getting darker again.
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:43.680
Maybe.
01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:44.720
Hold on.
01:12:45.119 --> 01:12:46.800
I hope she is rolling it back.
01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:47.359
I do.
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:50.960
I hope she is rolling it back, and I would give her space to do that.
01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:56.479
If she's running it back, if she's reconsidering and trying to backtrack.
01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:57.680
Never mind her last accepted.
01:12:57.920 --> 01:12:58.399
Girl, I'm sorry.
01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:01.039
Her last concrete looks like me when I go to Greece.
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:01.840
That's my tan.
01:13:02.399 --> 01:13:03.199
That's my tan.
01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:05.199
That's literally.
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:06.239
Put it closer real quick.
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:08.000
Never mind.
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:10.640
Girl, I know you fucking lying.
01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:14.960
God, never mind.
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:16.560
I lied.
01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:18.640
Very, very interesting.
01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:19.439
Why?
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:20.880
Why would she do that?
01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:23.279
And like, here is here is my one critique.
01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:24.159
This is my note.
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:26.319
Because I said I loved it, but I have notes.
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:27.359
I do have notes.
01:13:27.600 --> 01:13:28.960
But here she looks like Kiki Palmer.
01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:29.920
She looks like Kiki Palmer.
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:31.600
I don't like when I read a book.
01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:33.840
She looks like Kiki Palmer in that one to me.
01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:35.359
So, yes, you do.
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:36.000
Uh-huh.
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:37.199
And what would have been wrong?
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:40.880
A Kiki Palmer complexion on the book.
01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:42.640
Because that's what you said it looked like.
01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:47.680
And it's weird because in some of the pictures she's dark, in some of the pictures she's not.
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:49.279
So not even dark.
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:49.840
She's redbone.
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:50.640
She's red bone.
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:51.359
Let's be real.
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:56.960
That's what she like who's I my question is this Who is illustrating?
01:13:57.520 --> 01:13:59.119
She's getting it from a bunch of different people.
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:06.800
I my thing is this if the illustrations are coming from fan read fans or readers or whatever.
01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:07.439
Okay.
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:10.560
You know, there might be some variation in skin color.
01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:15.520
But whatever, you know, I I I'm gonna be so honest.
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:20.800
I didn't even look at the new cover because I didn't want to get mad before I started reading.
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:21.760
Y'all know who I am.
01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:22.319
Yeah.
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:26.560
I didn't want to start get mad before I started reading because it would have been hard for me to finish.
01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:42.640
But it was hard to not think about it as I'm reading, because I hate when I'm reading a book that I know is written by a black woman, black person, and I can't figure out what color nobody is.
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:45.279
I don't like that.
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:49.760
Like now, when I read a book written by a white person, I'm gonna be so honest.
01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:51.279
I assume everybody's white.
01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:52.319
Yeah.
01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:57.039
Until they say, Oh, she was a beautiful black woman, which they will immediately.
01:14:57.359 --> 01:15:00.720
And say it over and over again, and say it over and over again.
01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:02.399
They'll describe it in multiple ways.
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:08.800
Maha food related, smell-related, touch, yeah, caramel, food related, yes, chocolate related candy.
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:16.319
Okay, we know when you think about spot, do you realize it's always like some type of like vanilla vanilla smell?
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:17.600
It's always a vanilla smell.
01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:19.920
Vanilla scent is something, always.
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:20.479
Yes.
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:22.159
It's like fix something else, please.
01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:24.000
Just one other scent.
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:24.720
Oh god.
01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:25.520
Wait, you froze.
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:27.520
4203.
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:28.560
She froze a lot.
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:30.560
Wait, what is friend?
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:31.359
Where are you?
01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:32.000
Come back.
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:34.319
She ain't even making noise.
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:35.680
I know, right?
01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:36.720
Like I'm not too.
01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:38.000
Oh no.
01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:40.000
Dang, you got her mic all the way up.
01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:41.119
I wonder if her computer died.
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:43.119
Dang, we were doing good too.
01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:46.479
I gotta remember what I was saying.
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:47.039
What was I saying?
01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:47.840
I forgot already.
01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.960
No, you were saying we were talking about cocoa butter and scents and stuff like that.
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:51.600
Okay, you guys.
01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:53.439
You guys, yeah, you froze too.
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:54.880
Okay.
01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:56.720
No, we died.
01:15:57.760 --> 01:15:58.079
Yeah.
01:15:59.039 --> 01:15:59.840
Both of you.
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:03.039
Whoy, you froze right here.
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:04.239
Yeah.
01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:04.880
It's fine.
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:09.199
Let's cut the whole 42 seconds off.
01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:09.680
Okay.
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:12.960
Yeah, just yes, we'll start back at the the at 43.
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:14.800
We're almost done because we gotta get ready to see it.
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:15.520
43.
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:16.560
Let's do 43.
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:16.960
Okay.
01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:17.600
Okay.
01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:21.760
But no, very smell related, but but there we go.
01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:27.760
But if you I looked at her other bibliography, she tends to write a lot of white people.
01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:29.840
Which is fine.
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:30.800
I don't know.
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:31.359
I know.
01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:34.239
And it's no, no, I don't like that.
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:34.880
I'm sorry.
01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:35.439
I don't.
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:40.319
And listen, now I'm a and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna hold you because oh damn, friend.
01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:41.359
Oh, never mind.
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:42.000
Okay, never mind.
01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:43.359
Just we ain't even look at that.
01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:43.680
Never mind.
01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:44.960
Don't worry about it for listeners.
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:45.359
It's fine.
01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:46.880
We're gonna give.
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:47.840
Anyways.
01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:53.840
Um my thing, I I don't like it, and here's why.
01:16:54.479 --> 01:17:03.600
I don't want I don't want a white person writing too many black POV characters, okay?
01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:04.640
I just don't.
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:07.920
You don't understand my experience, you don't understand what it's like being me.
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:15.920
When a black person writes a whole bunch of white POV characters, I'm side-eyeing you.
01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:17.840
How you relating so well?
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:20.319
How you what's going on?
01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:22.640
How you know, how you know how they be acting?
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:24.800
Like, how do you understand the thought processes?
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:26.479
I'm trying to understand all of this.
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:29.520
I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to calculate in my mind.
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:32.479
And like my thing is, it was also pissing me off.
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:36.800
And y'all, y'all remember I texted y'all at one point and I'm like, y'all, what do Shadira look like?
01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:39.760
What do she look like?
01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:41.439
Y'all, I'm having trouble here.
01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:46.239
I had to make up a whole character in my head because I'm like, you know, I don't know what this bitch looks like.
01:17:46.399 --> 01:17:48.239
Yeah, now I know what Callum looks like.
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:51.760
I know icy blue eyes and and and peach colored skin.
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:53.359
Like, I know this, okay.
01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:56.079
Give I got no description for her.
01:17:56.319 --> 01:18:03.119
I don't like that because it's giving an allegiance I know which weird, but I'll pick up which part now.
01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:04.319
It's it's not it's weird.
01:18:04.399 --> 01:18:05.680
Yeah, I pick up which part now.
01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:12.720
And I feel like too, because like when I write, like when I write, I don't feel inclined to write white people in it.
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:16.239
Because that's not the first thing that's that pops into my head.
01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:22.319
Again, yeah, if she wants to do that, go ahead and do that.
01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:25.600
Listen, because Talia Hibbert, she writes white people.
01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:26.079
Right.
01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:26.479
Okay.
01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:39.840
And I got do you know how many books we read of hers, Ricky, when when she and I finally realized, I don't know what it was, when we realized, like, wait a second, wait a second.
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:42.159
Where's the niggas?
01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:52.239
All of her all of her female characters are black, and all of her, all of their male love interests are either white or South Asian.
01:18:52.560 --> 01:19:01.199
And then she has two that are South Asian, and she used the excuse of well, my partner is white, so that's why.
01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:04.000
And I don't do that.
01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:18.640
Like, I'm sorry, like it's just weird, it's just weird, and like, especially in her adult books, the one black male main character is gay, I think, which is again fine, but why don't you give your black female characters a black partner?
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:25.760
The one book that she did was was it was the YA book, that was the only one, was her YA, which was highly suspicious and unfairly cute.
01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:27.520
Oh, yeah, that was cute.
01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:29.520
Interesting that she did that.
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:36.800
But also, Callum, the one the one black male main character, is with the white woman.
01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:41.840
And he dies, the only black male character in the book dies.
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:45.039
Oh whatever.
01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:50.960
Y'all but again, like I said, Jameson to me, Jameson to me is to make myself feel better.
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:51.920
Jameson is Asian.
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:52.720
I've said that before.
01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:53.039
Okay.
01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:55.920
If he is Wan Ho, he's Korean, specifically Korean.
01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:57.520
That is what they guess.
01:19:58.239 --> 01:19:59.199
I love Wan Ho.
01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:01.840
Talk about Wan Ho for a second.
01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:02.720
I love Wanho.
01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:05.439
I have I'm gonna be so honest with y'all.
01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:08.239
I have never seen, well, that's not true.
01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:12.239
There are very few times I've looked at an ejam and I'm like, oh, damn, you know?
01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:12.560
Right.
01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:13.840
But Wan Ho is amazing.
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:14.800
You know who I love?
01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:15.359
You know who I love?
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:16.720
He's an older, I'm gonna look him up right now.
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:18.560
He's an older Japanese actor.
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:20.399
He's in everything.
01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:21.279
I forgot his name.
01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:23.279
I'm typing older Japanese actor.
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:25.279
I think y'all know you're talking about too.
01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:28.399
I think I do too, because I it's it's coming, but y'all know.
01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:30.960
Yeah, it's the first one that's the first one that's gonna be.
01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:34.880
I don't think what did he play in so I can picture him.
01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:35.840
Wait.
01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:37.760
Who are you thinking about?
01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:43.840
I don't I was thinking about he's like middle-aged.
01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:45.039
He's like middle-aged.
01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:45.680
What he be?
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:46.800
I I don't even know what he's in.
01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:50.319
I just know his face, but I can't even tell you how to look it up.
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:54.239
He's the first one that he's but, anyways, yeah, I can go with that.
01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:55.199
I can go with that.
01:20:55.439 --> 01:21:02.880
But like that was my main critique because I'm like, damn, we all everybody else get these detailed descriptions and the black one.
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:03.920
She's black, all right.
01:21:04.079 --> 01:21:04.720
That's literally what it is.
01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:06.079
She's black search.
01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:06.560
There we go.
01:21:07.039 --> 01:21:08.319
There were more descriptions, she black.
01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:12.560
There were more descriptions of black hair than her eye color.
01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:16.079
Yeah, yeah, which whatever, fine.
01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:17.279
That's okay.
01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:23.359
Damn, like she was noticing the shape of Grayson's lips and shit.
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:25.680
I'm like, damn, what should your lips look like?
01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:26.079
Right.
01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:27.600
Where is the reflection?
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:33.359
Like besides speaking of which, I will play because we're talking about the men.
01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:37.039
I want to play fuckill Mary.
01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:38.720
Really quick.
01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:40.159
I'm dead.
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:43.199
So we have Jameson, which we already know why, whatever.
01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:45.039
Jameson, Grayson, Callum.
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:51.199
Mary Callum.
01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:52.479
Agree.
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:53.680
Fuck Jameson.
01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:54.319
Callum.
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:56.399
Okay.
01:21:56.800 --> 01:21:58.079
I would kill Grayson.
01:21:58.399 --> 01:21:59.840
Yep, I go with it.
01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:02.159
Grayson.
01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:06.079
And then it would have to be.
01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:07.199
I'm cheating.
01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:09.039
I'm cheating.
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:10.239
That's all I'm saying.
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:15.760
It would have to be like a harem situation.
01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:17.359
For me.
01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:23.600
Because both of them, both Jameson and Callum are very gentle, they're very caring, they're very loving.
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:27.359
Like actually.
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:32.159
I think I marry Callum.
01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:33.279
I think I marry Callum.
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:39.279
Because I could Yeah, because I think Jameson Jameson would be good as well.
01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:41.039
Like, stop it.
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:42.399
You're caring about me too much.
01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:43.600
Like, go away.
01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:45.119
Go away.
01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:46.800
Go ahead.
01:22:49.279 --> 01:22:49.600
No.
01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:50.159
Yeah.
01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:59.600
I mean, I could I'll that um dynamic was interesting because you could tell she cared about him, but it wasn't love, love like that.
01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:00.479
Yeah.
01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:01.920
She cared about him.
01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:06.000
She, you know, but loved him maybe, but she wasn't in love with him.
01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:12.239
Like it wasn't like how it was for her and Grayson, where that passion magnetism.
01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:13.359
Very passion.
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:14.800
Yeah, passion, buddy.
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:15.920
That's what it was.
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:17.600
Like you.
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:18.800
Thanks, pal.
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:21.359
Like that's basically what it was.
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:24.479
But yeah, like PETA.
01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:24.720
Yeah.
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:26.640
I think about like PETA in my birthday.
01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:28.000
Like she cared about PETA.
01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:29.760
She didn't want anything to happen to him, but she wasn't.
01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:32.159
They're not getting married at the end of the book, though, right?
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:32.880
Right.
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:33.520
Right?
01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:35.520
I haven't read The Hungry Aim since high school.
01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:37.520
They were supposed to get married all the time.
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:40.000
I mean, I don't think I read all the stuff about the book.
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:42.640
I think at the end of the book, they had like an epilogue in the future.
01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:46.399
I'm probably I can't remember.
01:23:46.479 --> 01:23:48.159
It's been so many years since I read those books.
01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:49.840
I need to reread them, actually.
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.399
I was re-watching the movie a couple weeks ago.
01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:53.359
Still good.
01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:54.800
Hold up so good.
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:55.439
I can't read it.
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:55.760
I know.
01:23:55.840 --> 01:23:57.600
I think I think I want to start November.
01:23:57.840 --> 01:23:59.039
When is that coming out?
01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:09.119
So I think I'm gonna st I'm gonna redo, I'm gonna do Songs of Ballad, no, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, and then Sunrise on the Reaping, and then start The Hunger Games again.
01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:10.640
Ugh, so good.
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:17.520
And even thinking about those, I feel like that's another way that her book would have been set apart.
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:20.800
Any other dystop dystopian novels we have.
01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:25.680
All of them.
01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:32.560
I'm trying to think about like any of them that I've read, like Handmaid's Tale and even Fahrenheit, whatever the numbers are.
01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:33.199
Like all of them.
01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:35.680
That one was written in like the 60s 80s.
01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:37.359
So I don't count books I've written back then.
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:40.000
Because of course, they're not gonna be in there.
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:41.760
But even though Michael J.
01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:47.600
But it's like if that's that's a white man, you know he's not gonna like that.
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:48.640
Especially not a white man.
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:55.680
Yeah, yeah, it's it's the only dystopian novel I can think of that has a black main character is Parable of Disaller.
01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:56.159
Valid.
01:24:56.319 --> 01:24:56.640
Mm-hmm.
01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:57.199
Yeah.
01:24:57.359 --> 01:25:00.319
And even I feel like even in the Hunger Games, and this one now.
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:11.600
But even in the Hunger Games, kinda they they slightly whitewashed, they whitewashed Katniss in the Hunger Games because she was supposed the way they described her in the book, she was supposed to be darker than what she is.
01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:16.159
Like I think it was she was supposed to be like Melungeon or something like that.
01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:17.760
And then they whitewashed Rue.
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:18.319
Yeah.
01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:21.039
And even though Rue was described as a black in the book.
01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:24.079
She's they casted Rue and everybody freaked out.
01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:25.760
Yeah, Rue was dark skinned in the book.
01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:27.920
Like, and then they got she got cast in the movie, everybody freaked out.
01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:28.880
Like, how is Rue black?
01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:31.520
I was like, Well, it's it says it says it in the book.
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:33.119
No, no, right there.
01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:36.800
Her whole district is black.
01:25:37.039 --> 01:25:38.479
Yes, everybody.
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:41.439
Everybody, that includes her.
01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:43.199
Do we have one more question?
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:44.640
Or they hate to see it.
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:45.359
They hate to see it.
01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:46.399
The white girlfriend.
01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:55.600
We can't even say that in in in in fiction, not fiction, in fantasy, in science fiction.
01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:57.520
It like it ruins it.
01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:03.359
The way they was acting over Helen of Troy being played by Lupito, the girl.
01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:08.159
Meanwhile, Helen of Troy has been depicted as black in the past, by the way.
01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:09.279
But you know, not every time.
01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:12.800
The woman who who was born out of a swan egg.
01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:14.640
God forbid.
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:20.720
Like, and this is one thing I'm practicing personally, because y'all know how I get I get worked up.
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:23.039
That's just my personality.
01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:25.520
I get mad real easy about stuff.
01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:27.119
However, I will say this.
01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:30.399
I am working on not giving them so much of my spiritual energy.
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:34.720
Because at the end of the day, we just really have to realize that these people are dumb as shit.
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:37.119
Black than white nine times out of ten.
01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:44.319
And for some for them to get mad over one character in a movie, like y'all are just dumb.
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:46.640
And so we can't, like, I can't relate.
01:26:46.880 --> 01:26:48.479
They want negative energy so bad.
01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:49.520
They feed off of it.
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:51.439
Like, we just need to stay in our joyful era.
01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:54.960
We need to stay just like we're doing with these everything else.
01:26:55.920 --> 01:27:03.119
You know, I'ma just leave it at everything else where we sit down and we relaxing and we're focusing on our happiness and joy.
01:27:03.439 --> 01:27:04.800
That's what we need to do with everything.
01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:12.720
Because every time we feed into stuff like this, it's just it's just continuing on the negative energy that they want to bring to the earth.
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:14.880
And I just I just can't.
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:15.520
Yeah.
01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:17.520
Do we have one more question?
01:27:17.680 --> 01:27:18.000
Or no?
01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:18.560
We're done?
01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:19.439
Other questions?
01:27:20.319 --> 01:27:21.359
Um, I think that was all of them.
01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:23.680
Oh wait, no! The Python reveal.
01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:25.359
That's the last one.
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:27.840
Were you expecting the Python reveal?
01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:30.960
Did you when did you I had copied and pasted what was it?
01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:33.760
Were you expecting the Python reveal at the end?
01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:36.960
And Callum knowing who Python was.
01:27:37.359 --> 01:27:39.279
Did he know yeah, he knew who Python was?
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:42.560
And I loved it.
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:43.279
It was not.
01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:45.359
But definitely.
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:46.720
I'm gonna take it back to the Hunger Games.
01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:52.239
I forgot the name of the president who takes after who takes over after President Snow.
01:27:52.479 --> 01:27:57.840
And then Katniss reveals that she's like no realizes that she's no better than Snow is.
01:27:58.399 --> 01:27:59.840
Do you think that we might have another situation?
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:00.800
Like that.
01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:05.359
Because we said earlier that she's the one that created a lot of these laws.
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:11.039
So would she be better than her husband, or would she still again you have like that?
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:14.239
She's so so tied to the patriarchy.
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:16.399
Would she want that power to herself?
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:18.000
Honestly.
01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:20.560
That's a great point.
01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:22.399
And I think you're on to something.
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:24.560
Because you wrote these into law.
01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:26.399
She literally did it.
01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:26.880
Yeah.
01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:36.880
And and if we know anything about historically, women in proximity to power like that, they just want themselves to be free.
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:40.560
She wants to be free of him.
01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:44.880
We don't know how we don't know that she actually hates the system as a whole.
01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:45.359
Yeah.
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:46.640
I mean, hell, she wrote it.
01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:49.279
She agreed a lot of it to write it out.
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:50.000
Mm-hmm.
01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:50.960
Yeah.
01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:53.600
So we'll see.
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:55.520
We'll see when Python comes out.
01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:56.880
Whenever that is.
01:28:58.239 --> 01:28:58.960
Excited for that?
01:28:59.119 --> 01:28:59.279
Yep.
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:00.560
Did any of y'all watch House of Dragon?
01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:01.439
I haven't finished it.
01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:02.479
I haven't finished it yet.
01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:02.880
Yes.
01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:03.760
The new season.
01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:05.039
I haven't finished it either.
01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:06.479
I I got I had to stop.
01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:08.239
They was traumatizing me, killing my babies.
01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:13.600
Girl, they was they was doing a lot, but Python reminds me of Allison.
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:24.159
How everything she did was essentially what the men wanted her to do in every single action.
01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:27.920
It was like a it still didn't benefit for her.
01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.159
Like I'm doing what the men want me to do, yay, yeah, yay.
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:31.840
But at the end of the day, you still get screwed.
01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:34.960
And then when she realized that she that she really cared about herself.
01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:38.159
It was too late.
01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:39.439
It was too late.
01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:42.800
So, but no, I haven't finished it.
01:29:42.880 --> 01:29:48.159
I think the last episode I watched was when Reneira officially takes the throne.
01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:56.880
Because I I know it's a show, I know it's a show about dragons dying.
01:29:56.960 --> 01:29:57.760
I understand that.
01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:01.199
But like I don't want to watch them die little babies.
01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:02.399
I can't do that.
01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:03.279
Same.
01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:04.319
That's what I stopped.
01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:04.800
Vermax.
01:30:04.880 --> 01:30:06.479
When they came to the game, Jackson, uh yeah.
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:08.079
Jay, no, Jason Vermax.
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:09.279
Uh yeah.
01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:12.720
I didn't care about Jace that much.
01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:15.680
But he because he pissed me off because he was like, my mother shouldn't be doing this.
01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:16.399
Blah blah blah.
01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:19.439
But when when Vermax, he didn't listen.
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:21.600
He can't get out of the water.
01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:23.279
Oh gosh.
01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:24.239
I know.
01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:26.720
Y'all, that hurt my heart so bad.
01:30:26.800 --> 01:30:28.000
I was like, I literally can't do this.
01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:29.039
I don't want to see.
01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:29.760
I'm so serious.
01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:31.920
You gotta keep catching recaps on TikTok.
01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:35.039
Keep watching the overall the rest of the storyline.
01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:37.600
She Renee was pissing me off a lot.
01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:38.640
But listen.
01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:46.479
As long as listen, me, I would say the my favorite dragon, which is funny because this they had like a thing where it's like your month equals your Game of Thrones dragon.
01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:48.960
And I got sheep stealer.
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:50.479
I was like, you know what?
01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:53.199
Sheep Stealer.
01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:57.600
He just wanted to stay on his island and eat his sheep.
01:30:58.720 --> 01:30:59.760
What do I like to do?
01:30:59.840 --> 01:31:02.960
I like to stay at home and just be at my house.
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:07.199
And this crazy ass girl speaking language he does not understand.
01:31:07.680 --> 01:31:10.800
Takes and then he wasn't his fault that he set everything on fire.
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:12.239
He was overstimulated.
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:14.239
He was overstimulated.
01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:15.680
She's yelling at him.
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:17.439
There's other dragons getting at.
01:31:17.840 --> 01:31:19.279
And he didn't mean to.
01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:21.439
He didn't mean to do it.
01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:22.319
I love him.
01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:27.279
He debate the little underbite.
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:28.479
Like, oh, I love him.
01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:30.800
I love that dragon.
01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:35.119
It was that episode was so hard for me to watch.
01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:36.800
I don't know if I can finish.
01:31:37.039 --> 01:31:37.760
I'm gonna try.
01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:39.279
I'm gonna attempt.
01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:42.319
But anyway, we have oh, this is this is a good episode.
01:31:42.479 --> 01:31:43.760
This is a long episode.
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:49.359
But Tia, do you want to do you want to talk about our next book that we're reading?
01:31:49.520 --> 01:31:52.000
And our special guest that we're gonna have.
01:31:54.239 --> 01:32:02.319
You guys, our next episode, we're gonna have our first author guest, which happens to be my friend Jax McQueen.
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:07.840
Woohoo! And we are gonna be talking about her book, The Bad Decision Stress.
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:09.600
Very exciting.
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:10.479
So good, y'all.
01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:11.279
It is so cute.
01:32:11.439 --> 01:32:15.600
It is so good, and yeah, it's it's super cute.
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:17.920
We know that it's called um say yes.
01:32:19.840 --> 01:32:20.560
Say yes to the mess.
01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:23.359
But it's book one.
01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:24.079
Yes.
01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:25.279
There's a series.
01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:27.279
Book two is coming out in October, by the way.
01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:28.159
But we'll be talking about the book.
01:32:28.319 --> 01:32:29.199
Oh wait, she has another book.
01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:29.760
She has another book.
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:31.439
Oh, yeah, that's it.
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:34.079
I that just popped up, so I gotta save it.
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:35.119
October 8th.
01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:35.520
Yeah.
01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:39.439
And it's yeah, it's October 8th.
01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:40.640
I gotta save that one.
01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:41.920
Because it is so cute.
01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:44.000
But yeah, she's we have our first author, guys.
01:32:44.079 --> 01:32:44.640
Oh my god.
01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:45.920
So exciting.
01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:47.439
Definitely a much needed.
01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:50.239
So say yes to the mask.
01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:51.359
Be on the lookout for that.
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:58.640
And as always, guys, make sure you share with your friends, please.
01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:00.239
We would like to quit our day jobs.
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:00.800
Thanks.
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Um, follow us on all the socials, and we'll see y'all next time.
01:33:08.079 --> 01:33:08.960
Bye, guys.