One Surgeon, Multiple Procedures: The Benefits, Risks, and Reality

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Welcome to another episode of Plastic Surgery Uncensored.
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I'm your host, Dr. Roger Urban.
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And as always, we have a fantastic episode ahead. This
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week's episode is interesting in many different ways. Number one,
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we're going to be chatting about what's called combination surgery,
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which is I go in to do surgery. I really
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want to do A. I really want to do B.
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How the hell do I do them both? Is it
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safe to do them both? How do I find someone
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that's great at both? So that's one thing. We're also
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going to talk about influencers, social media. My favorite influencer
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is what they're telling me, authentic, et cetera. And we
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can only do that because we have a fantastic guest.
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So Tara, welcome to the show.
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Thank you.
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Tara is a sweet, dear.
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And fantastic patient of mine who is about three months, right?
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Three months out from a rhinoplasty and a breast augmentation.
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And we'll elaborate on that.
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And does.
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sort of social media influencing as a career, which is
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funny because like 10 years ago, there was no such career.
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Now we have a career doing that. And welcome to
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the show.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you for having me. Yeah, we're grateful to have you.
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And anyone who knows me and follows me and has
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known me for 20 years knows that I don't really
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do social media influencing things. interactions and collabs and all that.
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I don't for a handful of reasons.
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Number one is.
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I find that most of the people that are out
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there in the influence space don't necessarily align with me,
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our brand and our philosophy.
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That's number one.
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Number two, I feel like it's a little misleading to
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patients or prospective patients because I don't necessarily know that
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the influencer who is influencing her or his followers are
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authentic about the experience. So in a weird way, it's
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a disingenuous expression of what we do. And I don't know,
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I feel like it's not high end, so to speak. Yet,
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here we are. So that says a lot about you
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and we'll elaborate about that. So let's just dive right in.
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So we're about three months out. You had a rhinoplasty,
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you had a breast dog. And, um, tell us about
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that journey about like, oh, because we were talking about
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it and I said, like, it's interesting for a lot
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of people, they do surgery and then they launch their
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careers and then they become.
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Let's say hypothetically successful.
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And then they could give some of that attribution to like, oh,
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ever since I got my nose job or once I
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felt confident in clothes with my breast on, but you're
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quite successful prior to that. So in a weird way,
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you could have fucked it up.
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Yeah.
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You could have gone in there and done this and
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had a major.
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Backfiring or a backlash.
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Because, of course, one of the reasons we like working
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with you is you seem very authentic. You're a brand,
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a person you are.
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You're who you are. You're classy.
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And you were going to put yourself out there. So
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tell me a little about what brought you to this choice.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Well, as we talked about, I'm three months post-op and
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I'm 25. So for me, it was a long journey
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of deciding if I wanted to or not as a
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Middle Eastern woman. And I would say that it was
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a long journey, probably like a decade of me being
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back and forth about it. And once I did start
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social media, I kind of built everything from the ground
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by myself. And it almost felt like I didn't need
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it anymore.
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And I was like, I'm over it. I've done this.
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I've put myself out there the most I ever could
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have in my life, which is on a platform like that.
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So it's, you know, it's not something that's as necessary anymore.
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And I'm also in like a nine year long relationship.
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So it didn't feel like I needed external validation for
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like getting into a relationship or dating or anything like that.
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But I would say that that ended up becoming the
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perfect background for me to have like the mental clarity
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to say, I'm no longer super, super desperate or super,
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super insecure. And I feel confident in my decision if
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I do choose to move forward now.
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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense because it's almost
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as if I had everything already in place.
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So this wasn't going to fix anything.
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Exactly.
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And so there was nothing broken. And theoretically, that's the
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vacuum in which you should do this. Now, not everybody
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has the luxury of being in a very stable relationship,
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having an arguably good career. And so often they do it.
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you'll never know whether or not that added or detracted
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from it. But so you, clearly your boyfriend who I've met,
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who's lovely, he loves you.
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It's great. Clearly your work is working fine.
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So why, why now? Like usually you do it when
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you're younger and you're insecure. So why, why now when everything,
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it seems great.
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I think it's just something I wanted for a long time.
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And because I had come to a point where it
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was no longer a need more of like I've wanted
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it before. I might want it in a few months
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and then I'll change my mind. It was always this
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like back and forth. And obviously on social media, there
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is a lot of times where I'm just filming myself
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or taking pictures and it does suck to have to
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take maybe like a thousand or not a thousand, but
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like 300 pictures.
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Just kidding. I mean like 947. Yeah, exactly.
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It might be with the spam button, but yeah.
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So just having to take a lot of takes and
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a lot of photos and just in general, noticing that
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I liked myself in a certain angle and I knew
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that it would just really change my life in a
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positive way if I could, you know, turn my body
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a little bit in front of a camera and be
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just as happy and not have to live in that sense,
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even though I was totally fine in person and always
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loved myself and was always super confident. So I think
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it was just more of that, like it could make
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my lifestyle or just my life a tiny bit better.
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And I was at a point in my life where
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I didn't feel like I needed it or was desperate
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for it.
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So it just came perfectly for me.
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And it was also like, I'm 25. I feel like
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my frontal lobe, as people say, is developed enough to
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make that decision. And I also still have some years
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in my 20s to enjoy the results, which, you know,
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is also another thing where I didn't want to be
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a lot older and like finally make the choice for
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myself to move forward and be like, oh, I should
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have maybe done it, you know. a little bit ago
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and enjoyed my youth with it as well.
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So I feel like I got the best of both
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worlds with that.
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I think it was the timing was correct for you
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and that's the key, but I do think your timing
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was unusual in that it was pretty clear. Whereas a
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lot of people obviously do it when nothing really has
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happened in their lives in regards to the breast dog.
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So tell me, take me on that journey. So here
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you are, obviously I've looked at your page and I
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know your brand.
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It's very elegant, very classy.
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You're not a nude, swimsuit, I'm on a beach every
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other day, running around near naked in a.
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Aloe or, you know, and whatnot. So tell me about
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that journey.
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Yeah. So I would say that the breast augmentation was
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also something that I wanted for quite some time. Obviously,
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once I hit my teenage years and realized that nothing was.
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Changing, it's not happening anymore.
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You know, they say that second puberty at 21 and,
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you know, it didn't happen. So now I'm 25. I
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would say that It was more of a thing to
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fill clothes a little better. I was like, I want
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to be able to wear a dress and feel feminine.
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And I was, even now I'm still not used to
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dressing feminine because I've put myself in that box. So
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I'm learning to try different types of clothing and like
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be confident in dresses. And so that was like the
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tiny little change that I wanted for that. And as
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we spoke about it, we realized what was the best
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for me and like what size and stuff for it
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to not be, you know, super intense for me. So
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that was also something that really changed my life in
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that sense. And I'm excited to explore like dressing up
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a little bit better for myself and just like more
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normal stuff.
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Well, that's, that's interesting because, you know, first of all,
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if you're a guy, you won't understand, but there's this idea,
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a notion of femininity, right.
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As opposed to masculinity.
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And for some women, the expression of femininity is through
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their physical being, and a lot of it comes through
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clothing and dressing. And you just, you can, if you're.
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5'11, 160, it's.
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Different than being 5'2, 110. They're just different. So definitely
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that has something to do with it.
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Okay.
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So you decided I am here. I'm in a very
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secure place. I'm doing it for myself.
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There are no extraneous reasons. Awesome.
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So then you're like, okay, I'm on, no one knows
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social media better than you. how the hell do you
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figure this out? So you have this idea. It's like, oh,
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I really want to do this nose job. And if
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I'm anyone who does homework knows that getting a nose
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job that is quote unquote natural, it's like.
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The Holy grail, right?
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Because I would say if all the things you would
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do cosmetically that could go awry and not look natural,
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nose is probably number one. It's the spear of this, uh,
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you know, the sword in terms of like, overturned, piggy, over-scooped,
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Michael Jackson.
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All these terms.
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And then simultaneously, I want a really elegant, natural, athletic
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breast dog. That's like wanting a haircut and wanting a hysterectomy.
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They have nothing to do with each other.
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So what do you do?
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Yeah, I would say that the process was difficult online.
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I feel like in general, even for myself, I turned
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to social media to find something like that and results
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that I liked. So I think it was also I
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knew I had the responsibility to show results in that sense, too.
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And I knew that natural results were something that I
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really wanted as well. And I guess even in a
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world of social media and now, you know, going to
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Turkey is so accessible. A lot of influencers are posting
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about that. journey and, you know, how it's cheap and
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they do everything for you and blah, blah, blah. It
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really does influence people. And even for me, if I
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was younger, I would have probably been very much influenced
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to do that as well.
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And I'm so glad that I wasn't.
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And I'm glad that I was patient and found something
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that was, you know, exactly what I wanted, you know,
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an amazing surgeon, close to home in the US where
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it was, you know, safe and everything. And I really
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wanted to make sure that I could also show that
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online and that all the influencers that maybe do post
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about surgery and oftentimes going to Turkey for it was
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a bit like of a red flag to me personally.
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So I was excited to post that perspective as well
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of being close to home and that natural aspect of it,
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which in my videos that I did post, I was like, um,
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getting like a natural nose job, like it's impossible. And
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then with my results, everyone's like, wow, like this is crazy.
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It is super natural.
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So what was so, so, so did you say from
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the get go, did you know that you were going
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to be able to identify someone that would be able
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to do two separate procedures.
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At a very high level?
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Or did you like, okay, let me just find someone
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who does breasts and let me find someone who does noses,
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which seems much more likely.
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Yeah.
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And maybe I'll just do them separately. What is that
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process for you? Because you were doing two things as
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opposed to just one item.
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my nose or a nose job.
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I was like ready for it.
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the breast dog, but I was like, I wouldn't mind
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doing that. Like two years later, you know, it's whatever.
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Until I realized, you know, the recovery is intense. Once
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they started looking into the nose jobs and you know,
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maybe being able to do both at the same time
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would be, you know, a bonus in that sense.
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sit kind of.
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you know, you're laying on your back for both. So
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everything just seemed to come together nicely. And once I
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found you for the nose job, I was like, oh,
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this is perfect.
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other things.
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me to do that breast stock that I wanted a
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little earlier because you seem to do an amazing.
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Job at both.
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was a little daunting at first, I think it was
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probably the best decision I could have made.
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And I think that what we need to highlight here
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is the idea of doing multiple surgeries, it seems to
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the average person like maybe it's a bad idea. It's
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too much surgery, too much pain, too much recovery. It
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absolutely is not. You take the average person who has
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a heart transplant, one surgery, heart transplant, it would be
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the equivalent of 45 cosmetic surgeries done at once in
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terms of the effect it has on your body.
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Having a.
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Cancer surgery and removal of, let's say, your pancreas. 200
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cosmetic surgeries at once. So it's not the number of surgeries,
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but the sum total of how damaging that surgery is.
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A rhinoplasty, a breast dog, a tummy tuck. These are
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all really finesse-driven surgeries.
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Yes, they're under anesthesia. Yes, there's a lot of incisions.
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But the damage, the recovery.
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Required is minuscule in comparison to average, regular, non-stripping, plastic
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surgery related. Secondly, recovery is recovery. There is no summation
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like one surgery is three weeks. The other surgery is
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a week.
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So that's nine weeks.
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No, it's always the same recovery. If someone gets in
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a car accident and break every bone in their body
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in two months, they've recovered. So it doesn't matter if
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you do nose, ear pinning, labiaplasty, tummy tuck, it's still
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the same. The only thing about it that's a little
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tricky is is that you really need to find someone
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that does both of them at a level that you like.
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And sometimes, as a result of the convenience, you make
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a compromise. And that compromise is, well, the nose work
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is great. The breast is okay. I've seen some few
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that I like.
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I'm already here. Fuck it, let's just do it. That,
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I think, is a mistake. Because you're letting.
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The logistics and the convenience override the outcome in that
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if you weren't doing the no's, this wouldn't have been
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who you would have selected. That you should never do.
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If you have to find someone because of the nature
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of where you live and whatever, that you have to
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separate it, then separate it.
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It sucks because it's.
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Two surgeries, two recoveries, two whatever, but having an average result,
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a budding, an amazing result is not the right thing.
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That being said, if you can identify someone who does
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the two or three or four things you like at
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high levels, then there's no question about it. So I
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think that that's really fascinating. So when you decided to
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do this, you kind of knew for a fact that
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you wanted to do it, On your platform? What was
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the impetus to that? Was it like, they don't need
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to know. I'm just going to do my surgeries. Right now,
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it's so subtle and natural. To be honest with you,
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it's quite possible nobody would have known. But instead of
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going and coming back after a week and pre-recording content,
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you kind of were like, hey guys, I'm going to...
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And you decided to put yourself out there. What was
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the reason for doing that?
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I would say that I've always been very transparent on
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my platform and in my personal life. Like everyone in
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my life immediately knew that I was going to be
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doing these procedures even before it was on social media.
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And then even to my followers and stuff, a lot
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of people I know look up to me and I
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have a big Middle Eastern community that also follows me.
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So I knew that it wasn't something I wanted to hide.
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But even now when I film myself, I'm like, I
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can't even tell that there's a difference.
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So they really couldn't have been able to tell, you know?
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So I'm glad obviously that I did talk about it
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and I always knew I wanted to. And again, I
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wanted to really emphasize that there are a lot of
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misleading videos online just about surgery in general. So it
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would be nice if I'm doing it to come here
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and give actual quality content about it, quality information about it,
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which is something that I would have wanted and wanted
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to look for instead of just being like influenced per se.
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So that was really important to me in general with
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that process. Yeah.
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I mean, if I were an influencer, which indirectly I am,
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but not really, I'm a professional. But if I were
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an influencer and because of my personality, everything that would
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come out of my mouth would be transparent because that's
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who I am. I always tell the truth. I always
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say how it is. I always consider it from every angle.
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And if I were having a procedure done, I would
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be in the up and up because it's just the
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nature of who I am. I actually would feel uncomfortable
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being disingenuous. I'd feel awkward not telling the truth. And
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to be honest with you, it's actually a problem because
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there are instances where it's no one's damn business, but
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I still feel the nature that I need to.
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Be open about it.
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So the fact that you are like that is part
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of the reasons why we sort of agreed to do
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this together because I knew that you are going to
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represent this in an accurate light. There's no sugarcoating it.
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There's no like, this is the guy, here's his phone number.
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That stuff doesn't work. It just, hey, here's how it went.
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This is what it was like for me. It could
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be different for you. And here are the things that
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I found valuable. If more people would do that online,
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then I think doing homework online, aka through social media,
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would be a very valuable resource.
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Why not? Why not go online?
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On social media where there are tons and tons of
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authentic testimony. Can't get any better than that. The problem
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is it's not like that. The problem is that it
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is exactly what you said. I would say theoretically, which
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I didn't, I would pay an influencer. That influencer would
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get surgery and in exchange for the surgery, they would
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promote you and say all kinds of nonsense and manipulate
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and persuade their followers.
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And to me, that's just terrible.
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Terrible on the doctor, terrible on the influencer, because you
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just basically lie to a bunch of people.
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As opposed to, hey, I went to this guy. I
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did it on my own. No one forced me to go.
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No one paid me to do this. I did the surgery.
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And this is how it went.
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Bravo.
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Bravo. That's great. And that's cool. So you did it.
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What was the.
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Response. What were the range of responses that you received?
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Yeah, I would say I definitely got a few of
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the comments where it's like, no, like I loved your
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nose or I would look up to you. I even
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got some like backhanded comments about like when I was
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feeling bad about my nose, I would come.
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To your page to feel better about it. And I felt...
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a little bit interesting. I was like, so is that
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in like a bad way or what?
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So I had a lot of my followers kind of
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be like, this is like a backhanded comment. Like, what
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are you saying about this? But I had so many
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of my, um, or my community in general saying like.
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I loved your nose before. I love it now.
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They're both amazing, which is like the best type of
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thing I could ask for. Um, and then obviously a
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lot of, um, attention outside of my community ended up happening. And,
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you know, there's a little bit of both, I would
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say it depends on the platform. Sometimes on Instagram, there's
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a lot of the older community who maybe doesn't know
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the social media culture and they comment whatever they want.
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But for the most part, I'd say everyone was super
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impressed with the results and it would have been something
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I would have posted regardless. And I was super excited
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filming my before and after transition. So I would say
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the response was mostly positive on what I received at least.
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And I'm glad that I was honest about it and
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talked about the process as we said, and really just
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showed all parts of it, not just the results. Yeah.
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I saw some of the stuff and you wanted the
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bandages on. You know, you want the good, the bad,
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and the ugly, so to speak. What were some of the,
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and what about the breasts? So the nose is very easy, right?
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Because it's easy to display, it's easy to talk, it's
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easy to show. What was the thought process with the breasts?
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In a weird way, people are oddly less judgmental about
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nose jobs. And in an odd way, because you're Middle Eastern,
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it's almost a rite of passage, right? I have four nieces.
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I did all four nieces' noses. It was kind of
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like odd that they hadn't had it done up until then.
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That's just how it is in the culture. So I'm
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not really that shocked that anyone that's in the community
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would have.
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What do you mean? Of course you had her nose done.
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What are you talking about?
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But the breast aug, I'm curious to see what kind
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of take that was. Because there's this real like, you
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put poison in you, you're toxic, you're not natural, like
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all this nonsense.
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What did you hear?
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Yeah, I would say that for the breasts, it was
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mostly positive too, like being excited to see my outfits.
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And that's usually... or that's the community I've created.
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So they're looking forward to, oh my God, like you're
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going to wear a cute top or like this, your
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summer outfits, this and that.
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So it was mostly positive.
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If anything, I would say in my personal life, it
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was also the thing that gained the most attention from
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other women in my life was the breast augmentation rather
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than the nose. Right.
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Because your own personal people, the nose is irrelevant. The
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nose is a haircut.
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Exactly.
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So they were like asking a lot of questions about that.
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If anything, they were like, I've been wanting to get
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it done. My own grandma was like, I've wanted this
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done forever.
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Like, where did you go?
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I'm like, grandma.
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Come on, grandma. I don't want to hear about that.
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Yeah, so that was actually the surprising part for me,
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seeing the women in my life be really interested about that,
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hopefully mostly positive. But I would say that took the
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attention for sure.
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Yeah, well, breasts have a component of intimacy, sexuality, right?
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Noses are breathers and functionals.
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So there's always gonna be a little bit of mystique
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around breasts and that idea. Okay, so tell me what,
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as a person who's young, who's online, whose world it
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is to be online, what was the actual process you
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took to find me, right? You decided you wanna do
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your nose job. In my generation, we go to websites.
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Your generation doesn't know what a website is. It's this
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thing with WW you go to. There's like 50,000 photos.
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I've had people call our office and be like.
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Oh, just curious.
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Does Rabban do any, like, does he do noses? It's like,
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what are you talking about? There's like 300 photos.
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On his website. Because I just didn't see anything on Instagram.
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It's like, what? Instagram? Instagram's a fucking platform.
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Yeah.
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We learned that that was a while ago.
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We obviously inundated now with images because we realized people
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aren't going to the website. So tell me your process
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from A to Z, like to literally to like, I
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picked this guy.
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I would say that I didn't use the more like
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maybe obscure websites that maybe some people do.
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My top platform was like Reddit.
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And social media, like TikTok, Instagram, and And I would
499
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say my generation does kind of like to use Reddit
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a lot for deeper research. And I was getting a
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00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:27.200
ton of LA doctor recommendations because I was looking for
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doctors in LA.
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So what is the process? You put it out there
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and say, guys, I need advice. And people give you names.
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Or you go on threads. Or do you just start
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following doctors? I actually want to know what the process is.
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Yeah. I would say that I didn't post. I feel
508
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like we don't usually post out like, does anyone have
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any recs? It's more like looking up LA, you know, surgeons.
510
00:23:52.009 --> 00:23:54.829
And from, I started doing that like a year before
511
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and when I was just still thinking. Right.
512
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So that must've given you 150 people.
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Yeah. Right.
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00:24:00.059 --> 00:24:01.359
So then how do you go from there?
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Yeah.
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And then, so I started trying to see the ones
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that would pop up more often and then, then going
518
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on their Instagrams and TikToks, looking up on social media
519
00:24:11.180 --> 00:24:13.920
for just like someone posting a review about it and
520
00:24:13.980 --> 00:24:16.589
so that's the route that I took and it did
521
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take a long time but it really pushed me to
522
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finally move forward when I saw it on TikTok which
523
00:24:23.069 --> 00:24:25.170
as we said it's funny that my generation is like
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we're looking on TikTok and Instagram for this type of
525
00:24:27.410 --> 00:24:31.359
stuff but it really is a different type of perspective
526
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because you're getting to see the full 360 of someone
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you know they're posting videos or posting photos or posting
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00:24:38.299 --> 00:24:41.240
their best photos or posting their regular photos. So you're
529
00:24:41.259 --> 00:24:43.859
not just seeing the picture perfect nose. You're seeing, okay,
530
00:24:43.940 --> 00:24:46.259
from all angles, this looks like a nose that I
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00:24:46.299 --> 00:24:48.440
would love. I knew what her before was like from
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all angles. And now I know where her afters are
533
00:24:50.859 --> 00:24:53.480
from all angles. So that was for me, the biggest
534
00:24:53.700 --> 00:24:57.609
like game changer in my research personally. And what chose
535
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or made me choose.
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You at the end.
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Who was, which one was that?
538
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Did you?
539
00:25:01.029 --> 00:25:02.569
Yeah, it was actually, I believe Jess.
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Jess.
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Right. Yeah. She was.
542
00:25:03.930 --> 00:25:07.930
And which funny enough, you guys are very similar in
543
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your directionality in what you're doing and how you present
544
00:25:12.190 --> 00:25:16.130
yourselves online. Your brand, if you will, is very similar
545
00:25:16.450 --> 00:25:21.109
because you're clean, you're presentable, you're conservative, you're classy and
546
00:25:21.130 --> 00:25:24.140
all those things. Um, yeah, I think, and then that
547
00:25:24.180 --> 00:25:26.680
makes sense. So your process was that, and you kept
548
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narrowing it down. Um, did you see multiple surgeons?
549
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For what?
550
00:25:31.950 --> 00:25:34.279
For your nose, for your breasts. Did you do consults?
551
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Oh yeah.
552
00:25:34.859 --> 00:25:37.079
Yeah. I was looking at other doctors in LA and
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each time I got to that process of like maybe
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finally moving forward, I just would back out at the end.
555
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.720
So what was the specific, so how many surgeons would
556
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you say did you consult with?
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And so how many did you consult with?
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Um, I believe just one or two. Um, but I
559
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:54.480
was being very picky, which is why.
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And how did you, and what would be the thing
561
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that would cause you to be like, Oh, I don't know. Oh,
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I'm going to be careful because you are probably, your
563
00:26:03.630 --> 00:26:06.490
filter is tighter than the average person's filter. So you
564
00:26:06.509 --> 00:26:08.619
are a very great use because if you just didn't
565
00:26:08.650 --> 00:26:11.410
whimsically went and people are following you, then they're going
566
00:26:11.430 --> 00:26:14.200
to be at the mercy that you're not really that picky.
567
00:26:14.779 --> 00:26:17.119
If you're very picky, then they who are not picky
568
00:26:17.140 --> 00:26:18.839
get the benefit of you being picky because you did
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the homework for them. So what was it that the
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items that you would get to and be like, no, no, no, no,
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that's not going to work.
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00:26:24.619 --> 00:26:26.819
I liked it up until now, but now, no. What
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were those items?
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I would say the variety of the nose jobs that
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they were doing. So like the ethnicities that they were
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performing it on. You have like your own section of
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like ethnic nose jobs on your website, which is what
578
00:26:39.109 --> 00:26:41.910
I was mostly looking through. So obviously a nose job
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00:26:41.970 --> 00:26:43.869
on someone who's white is going to look very different
580
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than someone like me. And so when I was doing
581
00:26:47.049 --> 00:26:50.390
research and stuff like that, it happened to mostly be
582
00:26:50.789 --> 00:26:54.089
not within my ethnicity and within my ethnicity, not too
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00:26:54.109 --> 00:26:57.150
many people, I wasn't finding too many results that I
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00:26:57.190 --> 00:26:59.470
wanted close by or whatever because maybe they're going to,
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you know, the Middle East to do it or you
586
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:04.500
know what I mean. And for the most part too,
587
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it was hard to find something natural because sometimes with
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ethnic noses, people do like a big 180 and they
589
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.920
go really, really intense with the results and that's not
590
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what I wanted.
591
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:16.720
So finding something that was.
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Good on ethnic noses or someone who's good on ethnic
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noses and also creates a natural result is what I
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really prioritize. And you happen to be basically the only
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one I could fit into that structure for myself with
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the results I was looking for on social media, full
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360 and just stuff like that. Yeah.
598
00:27:34.450 --> 00:27:35.390
Well, that's important.
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00:27:35.410 --> 00:27:38.079
You have to set these sort of criteria and you
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sort of, because I think ultimately our goal with the
601
00:27:40.380 --> 00:27:45.059
podcast is to provide information and then ultimately provide factual
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information that people.
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Can take and apply.
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Okay.
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All right.
606
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:50.839
I'm going to do this. I'm going to do what that, yeah,
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that was that girl, that Tara girl. So the idea
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is you create these requirements.
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I need it to be, I want someone that does
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00:27:57.509 --> 00:27:57.789
a lot of.
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Middle Eastern noses. Okay.
612
00:27:59.450 --> 00:27:59.690
Why?
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00:27:59.849 --> 00:28:02.410
Because it's different than a Chinese nose and a different
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than a black nose.
615
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Okay.
616
00:28:03.390 --> 00:28:03.890
That makes sense.
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00:28:04.380 --> 00:28:06.140
And then I want it to look natural. And this
618
00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:08.400
is what I mean by natural. I mean, no upturn,
619
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no super scooped, no super pinched.
620
00:28:11.500 --> 00:28:11.740
Okay.
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Okay.
622
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Great.
623
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:15.079
And then I would love for them to do body work.
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And then once you set those criteria, do not compromise
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on them. And that's where people get in trouble is
626
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:23.079
they know what they want to go for. And then
627
00:28:23.099 --> 00:28:26.339
when they get frustrated that they can't find this individual,
628
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.839
so long as you're not crazy, then you need to wait.
629
00:28:30.569 --> 00:28:33.250
Because what ends up happening is you're like, yeah, but
630
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I really want it. And this summer, you know, it's
631
00:28:36.069 --> 00:28:38.529
before I go to college. And you come up with ways.
632
00:28:38.549 --> 00:28:38.849
Mm-hmm.
633
00:28:39.430 --> 00:28:42.250
To then break down the boundaries that you created, which
634
00:28:42.289 --> 00:28:44.289
were the things that you thought you needed in order
635
00:28:44.309 --> 00:28:44.809
to be happy.
636
00:28:44.890 --> 00:28:45.849
And then at the end you do it and you're
637
00:28:45.869 --> 00:28:46.289
not happy.
638
00:28:46.369 --> 00:28:46.690
Exactly.
639
00:28:47.170 --> 00:28:51.509
Well, I wonder why that happened. So now you've done it.
640
00:28:51.849 --> 00:28:52.559
You've posted it.
641
00:28:53.170 --> 00:28:58.289
And I'm assuming you're getting feedback. Give me a menagerie
642
00:28:58.329 --> 00:29:00.569
of the questions you're getting. Because I'm assuming people are
643
00:29:00.589 --> 00:29:04.390
DMing you, right? Aside from just writing on your post,
644
00:29:04.579 --> 00:29:06.880
they're DMing you directly, right? So what are some of
645
00:29:06.890 --> 00:29:09.039
the questions? What are the common questions that you're getting?
646
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:12.519
I would say a lot of the questions are about,
647
00:29:12.660 --> 00:29:17.299
you know, the specifics of open or closed rhinoplasty, the
648
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.809
breathing aspect of it, because I did focus on that
649
00:29:19.849 --> 00:29:22.490
as well, which was a part of the consultation that
650
00:29:22.569 --> 00:29:25.769
I really prioritized as well. I was like, I didn't
651
00:29:25.809 --> 00:29:28.150
even think about the breathing aspect. So the fact that
652
00:29:28.269 --> 00:29:31.069
you brought it to my attention was like, whoa, I'm
653
00:29:31.109 --> 00:29:33.839
so glad that you did. Because if I wasn't thinking
654
00:29:33.890 --> 00:29:35.700
about it and a surgeon didn't bring it up, then
655
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:36.619
I wouldn't have thought about it.
656
00:29:36.619 --> 00:29:39.299
And Not only would you not have brought it up,
657
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:44.319
it's too late once it's compromised, right? And we should
658
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:46.640
pause there for a moment because it's really important. So
659
00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:50.309
normally the way I describe it is you usually have
660
00:29:50.349 --> 00:29:54.069
breathing issues and you go to an ENT or someone
661
00:29:54.089 --> 00:29:56.470
that specializes in breathing and you're there and you listen,
662
00:29:56.490 --> 00:29:58.769
I can't breathe out of my right nostril. I'm miserable
663
00:29:58.789 --> 00:30:01.539
when I get sick. I have these horrible allergies. I
664
00:30:01.579 --> 00:30:04.299
can't do my, I can't finish my Pilates class, blah, blah, blah.
665
00:30:04.779 --> 00:30:06.680
By the way, when you're there fixing my breathing, I
666
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:07.309
have this hump.
667
00:30:07.349 --> 00:30:09.250
Can you fix it? So what happens?
668
00:30:09.269 --> 00:30:11.690
You go get surgery. Your breathing is done great. And
669
00:30:11.789 --> 00:30:15.190
your aesthetic is an afterthought. And as a result, it's
670
00:30:15.230 --> 00:30:18.089
not as what you had hoped. Conversely, you go in
671
00:30:18.109 --> 00:30:20.529
to see a doctor. You hate your nose.
672
00:30:20.589 --> 00:30:22.569
It's bulbous. It's droopy. It's got a hump.
673
00:30:23.109 --> 00:30:25.859
And you go there And you're like, listen, I really
674
00:30:26.140 --> 00:30:27.680
don't like the way it looks. I wish it would
675
00:30:27.700 --> 00:30:30.240
be more elegant, cute, whatever. And oh, by the way,
676
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.720
my breathing's eh, not so much. You go in, you
677
00:30:32.740 --> 00:30:34.640
get your cosmetic surgery done, and now you can't breathe
678
00:30:34.660 --> 00:30:40.640
for shit. And so unfortunately, a nose is a organ,
679
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.069
an anatomy that's designed to breathe and move air. And
680
00:30:45.609 --> 00:30:47.869
when you want to make it pretty, you are making
681
00:30:47.930 --> 00:30:52.589
it smaller. We seldom make a nose bigger. Nine out
682
00:30:52.609 --> 00:30:56.210
of 10 times the nose is 6%, 12%, 14% smaller.
683
00:30:56.250 --> 00:30:59.269
So that smaller nose, which is cute and pretty and attractive,
684
00:30:59.609 --> 00:31:01.109
will for sure breathe worse.
685
00:31:01.470 --> 00:31:03.309
The end. No questions. You don't need to be a
686
00:31:03.309 --> 00:31:04.069
rocket scientist.
687
00:31:04.150 --> 00:31:07.509
So for a surgeon to do this cosmetic change to
688
00:31:07.549 --> 00:31:10.450
your nose and not discuss your breathing.
689
00:31:10.910 --> 00:31:12.950
And I don't give a shit if your breathing is great.
690
00:31:13.750 --> 00:31:16.990
Your breathing is great now. That's what he told me.
691
00:31:18.150 --> 00:31:19.140
Now is irrelevant.
692
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:19.339
Yeah.
693
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.200
Let's talk when your nose is 13 and a half
694
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:24.759
percent smaller. And if that point you do it and
695
00:31:24.779 --> 00:31:27.589
you're breathing and you're, you look great and your breathing
696
00:31:27.619 --> 00:31:31.109
is compromised, you will be so bummed out because then
697
00:31:31.130 --> 00:31:33.049
you'll go work out. Then you'll go do this. Then
698
00:31:33.069 --> 00:31:35.390
you'll be a mouth breather. Then we had a young
699
00:31:35.430 --> 00:31:37.109
lady that I operated on four or five years ago.
700
00:31:37.130 --> 00:31:37.859
She was on our podcast.
701
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.799
She's like, my, my God, my migraines have improved. Oh,
702
00:31:41.809 --> 00:31:43.890
I would get up several times a night thinking, oh,
703
00:31:43.930 --> 00:31:46.069
I just have to adjust my pillow. And I sleep
704
00:31:46.089 --> 00:31:48.200
through the night now. And she never even knew she
705
00:31:48.220 --> 00:31:50.619
had a breathing issue because you don't know what you
706
00:31:50.660 --> 00:31:51.240
don't know.
707
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.740
It's all you know. It's just whatever it is. Obviously,
708
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:55.099
if your breathing is terrible, you know.
709
00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:02.009
So it is imperative that breathing be a part of
710
00:32:02.049 --> 00:32:06.089
the surgery, irrespective if you are an Olympic gold medalist
711
00:32:06.170 --> 00:32:10.940
in breathing, because your breathing will be compromised. So yes,
712
00:32:11.049 --> 00:32:13.069
I think that's really, and you should walk out and
713
00:32:13.089 --> 00:32:14.470
be like, how's your breathing?
714
00:32:14.490 --> 00:32:15.589
Uh, the same.
715
00:32:15.950 --> 00:32:17.170
If you walk out and tell me your breathing is
716
00:32:17.190 --> 00:32:22.269
the same, it's amazing because it's not supposed to be
717
00:32:22.309 --> 00:32:25.569
the same. So, so that's really great that you realize
718
00:32:25.589 --> 00:32:26.589
how valuable that was.
719
00:32:26.630 --> 00:32:26.930
Yeah.
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00:32:26.970 --> 00:32:27.289
Yeah.
721
00:32:27.309 --> 00:32:29.190
That was actually, I would say a big portion of
722
00:32:29.250 --> 00:32:31.869
it too, which I saw in justice console where you
723
00:32:31.890 --> 00:32:34.690
were talking about that and that's what you talking about
724
00:32:34.750 --> 00:32:36.630
it in that sense. I was like, Whoa, like that's
725
00:32:36.690 --> 00:32:38.710
really good to know. I would have never known otherwise.
726
00:32:38.789 --> 00:32:39.369
So yeah.
727
00:32:39.450 --> 00:32:41.730
Makes total sense. And what other questions are you getting?
728
00:32:41.829 --> 00:32:42.730
Open, close, right?
729
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.599
Which I hope you told him is irrelevant, right? Just
730
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:48.039
go to the guy whose work you like, period. The
731
00:32:48.059 --> 00:32:50.160
work is amazing and the guy does it through the earlobe.
732
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.059
Go through the earlobe. Do not get persuaded by this.
733
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:54.220
Look up for a second.
734
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.130
So your scar is near completely invisible. The time I
735
00:32:58.170 --> 00:33:00.170
see you at a year, invisible. No one will know
736
00:33:00.190 --> 00:33:00.930
if it was open or closed.
737
00:33:00.950 --> 00:33:02.609
So that's dumb. Okay, what else?
738
00:33:03.299 --> 00:33:03.880
Um, yeah.
739
00:33:03.900 --> 00:33:06.180
And speaking about the open or close, I was also
740
00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:08.730
surprised to find out it wasn't really that important because
741
00:33:08.849 --> 00:33:10.890
I was hyper-focused on that for a second too. So
742
00:33:10.950 --> 00:33:14.470
to know that now I'm like, oh, the difference was that,
743
00:33:14.549 --> 00:33:15.950
that it doesn't even show. Right.
744
00:33:16.329 --> 00:33:18.509
And then the argument that they make just so we
745
00:33:18.529 --> 00:33:20.230
can elaborate on it is open and close.
746
00:33:20.299 --> 00:33:21.579
It's the scar, scarless.
747
00:33:21.980 --> 00:33:22.180
Okay.
748
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.480
We're talking about two millimeters. Like you make it sound
749
00:33:24.500 --> 00:33:26.039
like it's like gouge.
750
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:26.359
Yeah.
751
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:28.619
And then the other thing is, oh, you, you heal quicker.
752
00:33:29.380 --> 00:33:35.049
faster recovery, less, what are you talking about? If I
753
00:33:35.069 --> 00:33:36.490
did you open, I did you closed, you would have
754
00:33:36.549 --> 00:33:41.470
no clue, period. Maybe two days out of a lifetime.
755
00:33:41.509 --> 00:33:43.609
That's not a reason to do something. The reason you
756
00:33:43.630 --> 00:33:46.390
do it is because it's significantly better or because that's
757
00:33:46.410 --> 00:33:47.690
just the way your guy likes to do it.
758
00:33:47.730 --> 00:33:50.339
Great, no problem. So that's good. Okay, what else?
759
00:33:51.059 --> 00:33:53.759
I would say definitely the recovery process was a big one.
760
00:33:53.779 --> 00:33:57.500
People being kind of like worried about the first week
761
00:33:57.539 --> 00:33:59.789
and like the sleeping and you know, not being able
762
00:33:59.829 --> 00:34:02.029
to breathe and how do you handle breathing through your
763
00:34:02.049 --> 00:34:04.220
mouth and stuff. So I kind of gave them my
764
00:34:04.259 --> 00:34:07.180
tips and tricks that I personally found out through my journey.
765
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.280
But that was a big one in terms of just
766
00:34:10.460 --> 00:34:13.159
questions about people who are really interested already and just
767
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.690
wanted to know about the recovery itself. I would say
768
00:34:16.889 --> 00:34:21.070
about the breast augmentation, a lot of like under, over,
769
00:34:21.210 --> 00:34:22.730
how does that work and stuff like that.
770
00:34:22.789 --> 00:34:23.730
How did you size?
771
00:34:23.809 --> 00:34:24.349
Yeah, exactly.
772
00:34:24.369 --> 00:34:26.650
What size are you? 99% of people are so confused.
773
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.880
Fixated on what size implant is that? What size are you?
774
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:31.980
Is that a B? Is that a C?
775
00:34:33.099 --> 00:34:38.780
Which is, unfortunately, I get it, it's so misguided. You
776
00:34:38.820 --> 00:34:41.679
know from our consult that that's not how we do this.
777
00:34:42.170 --> 00:34:44.550
You didn't come in and say, hey, I make it
778
00:34:44.610 --> 00:34:47.329
up an A and I want to be a C because.
779
00:34:47.210 --> 00:34:48.170
That doesn't work.
780
00:34:48.750 --> 00:34:52.489
What works is we analyze you, we examine you, we
781
00:34:52.510 --> 00:34:56.360
do your anatomy, and that gives us our box.
782
00:34:56.380 --> 00:34:56.460
Yes.
783
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.079
That cannot change. It doesn't matter what doctor you go to,
784
00:35:00.179 --> 00:35:02.739
what technique they use above below. That's the box we're
785
00:35:02.780 --> 00:35:03.340
working with.
786
00:35:03.940 --> 00:35:07.019
And then you express, I want it really full. I
787
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:07.820
want it really small.
788
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.500
And then you use photos because you telling me you
789
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:11.780
want to be a C and then you show me
790
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:15.280
a photo of a triple D. You show me photos
791
00:35:15.389 --> 00:35:17.730
and then your surgeon goes to work and does what
792
00:35:17.769 --> 00:35:21.030
it's required by selecting the size that will make you
793
00:35:21.110 --> 00:35:22.250
look like the image.
794
00:35:22.050 --> 00:35:22.869
That you want to be.
795
00:35:23.590 --> 00:35:25.769
And that size is whatever the size is according to
796
00:35:25.789 --> 00:35:30.949
the image that you selected. So Um, I, I can,
797
00:35:31.110 --> 00:35:32.789
I would say 99% of patients when it comes to
798
00:35:32.829 --> 00:35:37.449
breast augs are really confused, fixated loss on size, which,
799
00:35:37.550 --> 00:35:38.260
which makes sense.
800
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.340
Yeah. And I've seen a lot of people online too,
801
00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:42.880
where they were fixated on a size that maybe they
802
00:35:42.940 --> 00:35:43.860
saw on someone else.
803
00:35:43.900 --> 00:35:44.639
They got it done.
804
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.420
And the surgeon didn't say anything about how maybe it
805
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:49.780
would look on them. And then now they're really unhappy
806
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:51.860
and they want to go get it undone or smaller.
807
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.150
And so that was the thing too. It's like Kylie
808
00:35:54.170 --> 00:35:56.389
Jenner's size is online, but it's not going to look
809
00:35:56.429 --> 00:35:56.730
like that.
810
00:35:56.809 --> 00:35:59.789
I mean, Kylie Jenner. It was so crazy.
811
00:36:00.389 --> 00:36:07.239
I'm 345, silicone, moderate profile, half-half. I know all those
812
00:36:07.260 --> 00:36:09.679
things because her surgeon is a very good friend of
813
00:36:09.699 --> 00:36:11.840
mine who was on our podcast maybe a week ago.
814
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:13.400
What the hell?
815
00:36:13.420 --> 00:36:16.030
That means nothing.
816
00:36:16.139 --> 00:36:20.150
Who gives a shit? Her breast or her breast? For example,
817
00:36:20.190 --> 00:36:21.250
let's just say you came in and you said, I
818
00:36:21.289 --> 00:36:23.829
want Kylie's implants. The answer, I can't.
819
00:36:24.809 --> 00:36:26.809
Her chest and your chest, you're like half the size
820
00:36:26.829 --> 00:36:30.170
of her chest. So I do think that that's really
821
00:36:30.210 --> 00:36:32.090
a crazy, crazy concept.
822
00:36:32.210 --> 00:36:35.820
In regards to recovery, everyone's recovery is going to be different.
823
00:36:36.340 --> 00:36:40.719
So there will be elements about recovery that are so specific.
824
00:36:41.059 --> 00:36:43.039
The lady that was on the podcast before you said,
825
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.840
I am so bad with pain.
826
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:46.840
You have no.
827
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.449
Idea that if I hit my toe, I'm in a
828
00:36:49.469 --> 00:36:50.329
bad mood for a week.
829
00:36:50.809 --> 00:36:51.570
I operated on her.
830
00:36:51.630 --> 00:36:53.309
I did probably eight hours of surgery on her. She
831
00:36:53.349 --> 00:36:54.530
said I had zero pain.
832
00:36:54.710 --> 00:36:54.889
Wow.
833
00:36:55.699 --> 00:36:58.159
And then you have an augmentation and it's uncomfortable and
834
00:36:58.179 --> 00:37:02.400
you're very sensitive while you're in a car. So there's
835
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.500
no predictability in that. But what is predictable and what
836
00:37:06.539 --> 00:37:11.300
is 100% sure is it's short-lived. It was the worst pain,
837
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.260
the least pain. I never had pain like this before.
838
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:15.820
I didn't even have pain. All that is irrelevant because
839
00:37:15.860 --> 00:37:18.280
at the end of a week to 10.
840
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:23.300
Days, it's all done. So all that worry should evaporate.
841
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.320
That's why I don't get so heavily... entrenched in it.
842
00:37:28.010 --> 00:37:30.489
If it were like, wow, I've been in pain six months,
843
00:37:30.929 --> 00:37:33.610
then we need to have a conversation. But like, we
844
00:37:33.650 --> 00:37:37.489
don't want to go crazy over something that'll last four days.
845
00:37:37.650 --> 00:37:38.409
Yeah, exactly.
846
00:37:38.650 --> 00:37:41.320
And I would say online, it was more so a
847
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:43.280
lot of people being like, oh, I got a breast dog.
848
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:45.480
And like three days later I was in my Pilates
849
00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:47.920
class or I was doing this. And so I had
850
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:50.260
that expectation of like, oh, like this is going to
851
00:37:50.300 --> 00:37:52.539
be nothing. This is what looks kind of scary and
852
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:54.519
tough to deal with. And for me, it was kind
853
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:55.179
of like the opposite.
854
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.110
I was like, Nothing. I don't feel any.
855
00:37:57.030 --> 00:37:59.829
Pain for my nose job. If anything, the recovery was
856
00:37:59.909 --> 00:38:02.050
not that uncomfortable or not as much as I expected.
857
00:38:02.530 --> 00:38:04.139
And then this part for me, I was like, well,
858
00:38:04.340 --> 00:38:05.820
I'm a little knocked out for a week. And I
859
00:38:05.860 --> 00:38:07.639
think that's pretty much normal. I don't have to be
860
00:38:07.739 --> 00:38:09.780
up and running around, you know?
861
00:38:10.300 --> 00:38:12.539
So that's exactly accurate. And we tell you that. I
862
00:38:12.579 --> 00:38:14.179
tell you, I have your chart. I open it and
863
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.829
I say, look, rhinoplasty, zero pain.
864
00:38:16.889 --> 00:38:17.030
Yeah.
865
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:19.869
Breast dog, uncomfortable. I write that.
866
00:38:19.969 --> 00:38:21.829
I was surprised you wrote that. I was like, oh, really?
867
00:38:21.849 --> 00:38:22.670
Like I thought it would be the opposite.
868
00:38:22.690 --> 00:38:25.849
Everybody thinks the opposite because you look like you went
869
00:38:25.889 --> 00:38:27.050
four rounds with Mike Tyson.
870
00:38:27.070 --> 00:38:29.780
You're bruised. Well, not bruised. You weren't actually bruised, but
871
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.219
you got a cast, boogers. It's gross.
872
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:33.960
And it looks like, oh, I know what happens if
873
00:38:34.260 --> 00:38:36.119
my son hits me in the nose by accident.
874
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:37.619
I tear up.
875
00:38:37.739 --> 00:38:41.019
It's so painful, right? That is not how it is
876
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.039
with a nose job. So nose jobs, it is almost
877
00:38:44.099 --> 00:38:47.170
seldom that anyone complains and breast talks, you'll get some, oh,
878
00:38:47.210 --> 00:38:47.909
this really hurts.
879
00:38:47.949 --> 00:38:51.929
And you get, ah, it's uncomfortable. So that that's great. Um,
880
00:38:54.130 --> 00:38:55.389
how do you think it's changed your life?
881
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.079
Um, I would say already, it's like.
882
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.900
Not even a thought now, if I'm like, oh, like
883
00:39:01.940 --> 00:39:04.539
my side profile might be a little iffy here. I
884
00:39:04.579 --> 00:39:07.139
don't like the fact that I'm even here sitting like this,
885
00:39:07.219 --> 00:39:07.880
talking to you.
886
00:39:08.409 --> 00:39:10.030
Would have been a concern.
887
00:39:09.530 --> 00:39:10.889
Maybe a little bit for me before. Yeah, you would
888
00:39:10.909 --> 00:39:11.590
be sitting like this.
889
00:39:11.750 --> 00:39:14.199
Yeah, exactly. My perfect angle and everything.
890
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.480
So I think that has been the biggest game changer
891
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:19.219
for me where I'm, it's not a constant thought.
892
00:39:19.019 --> 00:39:20.739
In my head. Yeah, you're free.
893
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:24.269
You're liberated from the preoccupation.
894
00:39:24.389 --> 00:39:24.929
Exactly.
895
00:39:25.090 --> 00:39:27.349
And now it's like, even like my front profile is
896
00:39:27.429 --> 00:39:29.969
basically the exact same. So when I look at myself,
897
00:39:30.380 --> 00:39:33.119
I don't look crazy different, but then it's, I know
898
00:39:33.139 --> 00:39:34.599
I don't have that like thought in the back of
899
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:36.980
my head where I'm like, Oh, like my perfect angle
900
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:38.530
or like when I'm taking a picture, I need to
901
00:39:38.570 --> 00:39:40.750
be on the right side. And then I'm like running
902
00:39:40.909 --> 00:39:42.610
across a group of 10 people trying to make it
903
00:39:42.630 --> 00:39:43.429
to the right so that I'm.
904
00:39:43.349 --> 00:39:44.329
Not on the left.
905
00:39:44.349 --> 00:39:44.650
Yeah.
906
00:39:44.670 --> 00:39:46.030
We had our, we had, it's funny.
907
00:39:46.409 --> 00:39:49.489
The same stories are said by such varying degree of people.
908
00:39:50.010 --> 00:39:55.440
So we had another rhinoplasty podcast and I vividly, she said,
909
00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:00.159
I would have to be in the middle and I
910
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.960
would never be caught on the sides of a photograph,
911
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.409
which is interesting because I'm a guy, I got a
912
00:40:05.429 --> 00:40:05.809
big nose.
913
00:40:05.969 --> 00:40:07.050
I don't know. I don't give a shit where I
914
00:40:07.110 --> 00:40:08.769
am in the line. Just take the photo.
915
00:40:09.230 --> 00:40:11.090
Whereas like to think that if I were in a
916
00:40:11.710 --> 00:40:13.590
picture and I was like, wait, stop.
917
00:40:13.769 --> 00:40:13.889
Yeah.
918
00:40:14.380 --> 00:40:16.900
I got to get to position seven. That is the right,
919
00:40:16.940 --> 00:40:18.480
you know what I mean? And, but she said the
920
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:18.860
same thing.
921
00:40:18.940 --> 00:40:23.409
And many patients have said that it's very fascinating about photography.
922
00:40:23.909 --> 00:40:26.929
So that, so you feel liberated in that regard.
923
00:40:27.289 --> 00:40:27.530
Yeah.
924
00:40:27.650 --> 00:40:29.969
It's, it's really, it's really the idea. The idea is
925
00:40:30.030 --> 00:40:32.769
that it becomes an afterthought. Like, oh yeah, that's right.
926
00:40:32.789 --> 00:40:33.130
That's right.
927
00:40:33.150 --> 00:40:33.710
I did that whole.
928
00:40:33.869 --> 00:40:34.829
Even now I forget.
929
00:40:34.889 --> 00:40:37.679
I'm like my boyfriend, it's actually like second nature for
930
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:39.880
him to know if we're taking a photo together, he
931
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:40.800
has to go on my left.
932
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:42.539
So it's like almost like clockwork for him.
933
00:40:43.150 --> 00:40:45.280
And even when he's taking videos or photos of me,
934
00:40:45.340 --> 00:40:47.159
he'll know like my angles and stuff like that. And
935
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.880
now he'll be taking it from another side. And I'm like, no, no, no,
936
00:40:49.900 --> 00:40:51.539
that's not the right side. And then we're like, wait,
937
00:40:51.659 --> 00:40:52.340
it's changed now.
938
00:40:52.380 --> 00:40:53.019
It's different.
939
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:55.500
So that part has been really crazy. Even now I
940
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.519
still forget. And I would say for the breast augmentation,
941
00:40:58.539 --> 00:41:00.550
I started working out, which is really fun.
942
00:41:01.510 --> 00:41:02.409
And being able to wear.
943
00:41:02.269 --> 00:41:04.409
A top and a sports bra and not be super,
944
00:41:04.429 --> 00:41:07.789
super flat because it's compressing has been obviously a game changer.
945
00:41:07.869 --> 00:41:08.769
Yeah, for sure.
946
00:41:09.150 --> 00:41:13.070
You know, leisure wear and athletic wear, is now our,
947
00:41:13.530 --> 00:41:16.849
in some ways, an evening gown, right? Aside from the
948
00:41:16.889 --> 00:41:19.929
fact that it's totally accepted and you could literally walk into,
949
00:41:19.949 --> 00:41:24.900
you know, like Mastro's in an aloe crop top, you
950
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:25.880
live in them now.
951
00:41:26.099 --> 00:41:27.320
So, so much of your.
952
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:31.349
Life is spent in that type of outfit to not
953
00:41:31.409 --> 00:41:33.969
like the way you look versus I love the way
954
00:41:34.010 --> 00:41:34.289
I look.
955
00:41:34.409 --> 00:41:36.670
It's such a chunk of your time. It's not like.
956
00:41:37.630 --> 00:41:40.050
oh, when we go out and I wear an evening gown, well,
957
00:41:40.070 --> 00:41:41.329
how many times do you wear an evening gown.
958
00:41:41.369 --> 00:41:43.880
A ball gown? Like four times? Who gives a shit?
959
00:41:44.380 --> 00:41:47.380
But I'm in this thing all the time. It makes
960
00:41:47.409 --> 00:41:52.099
a significant difference. So it makes sense that that's going
961
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.579
to be a game changer. Well, yeah, I think all
962
00:41:55.619 --> 00:41:59.519
those things are incredibly helpful. I'm glad that you are happy.
963
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.739
I'm glad that you are a good reflection of a
964
00:42:02.820 --> 00:42:07.760
real authentic representation of the process. We definitely didn't want
965
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:09.579
you to go out there and do your surgery and
966
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:11.119
just be like obligated, be like.
967
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:12.739
The best thing I ever had done.
968
00:42:12.900 --> 00:42:13.599
He's the best.
969
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.300
No, that, that, that doesn't work.
970
00:42:16.139 --> 00:42:19.619
And, uh, I'm glad that whoever is influenced in your
971
00:42:19.659 --> 00:42:23.090
sphere has benefited from your authenticity. Cause that's what really
972
00:42:23.130 --> 00:42:25.510
that's about. They'll make the right choices for themselves. If
973
00:42:25.570 --> 00:42:27.690
Turkey is a place for them to go, good luck,
974
00:42:28.210 --> 00:42:29.329
you know, do as you wish.
975
00:42:30.010 --> 00:42:31.150
Um, all right, well, great.
976
00:42:31.530 --> 00:42:35.150
So, um, any last parting things, anything that you desperately
977
00:42:35.170 --> 00:42:38.739
want to share with the next Tara out there?
978
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:40.199
Anything that you think is critical?
979
00:42:40.219 --> 00:42:43.820
I would say to just know at the end of
980
00:42:43.860 --> 00:42:46.619
the day, even if you don't move forward with surgery
981
00:42:46.909 --> 00:42:49.849
and even if you do, you don't need to obviously
982
00:42:49.889 --> 00:42:52.230
think about what other people are saying about you or
983
00:42:52.269 --> 00:42:55.050
what your family thinks about it and stuff. Everyone in
984
00:42:55.090 --> 00:42:56.909
my life told me to not get a nose job
985
00:42:56.969 --> 00:42:59.769
and I kind of like let myself believe that for
986
00:42:59.809 --> 00:43:02.030
a long time and it was fine. But I'm glad
987
00:43:02.070 --> 00:43:03.250
at the end of the day that I moved forward
988
00:43:03.269 --> 00:43:04.909
with what I wanted because at the end of the day,
989
00:43:05.469 --> 00:43:07.030
I'm going to be the one who's 50 years old
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thinking like, oh, maybe I should have done it when
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I was 25.
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So that's good advice that at the end of the day,
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follow your true emotion of, you know, what you believe
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to be the case. People around you may tell you
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to do things and it may come completely out of love, right?
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It's totally, I don't think anybody told you not to
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do it because they didn't want you to look pretty.
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They thought you were pretty, which is great, but that shouldn't,
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that shouldn't matter because it's really about you.
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Great advice.
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All right, guys, as always, this has been a fantastic episode.
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I have two requests.
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One, If you like our show, you find it entertaining,
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go write a nice review, go write something positive, something
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that like, oh, wow, everybody in the group, everyone that
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puts the show together will appreciate. And the other is
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if you know anyone that's even remotely interested in plastic surgery,
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forward our show to them because by the time you
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tell them about it and they've already done it and
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they got a complication, now they're a revision patient.
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We want to avoid that all around. Okay.
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So thank you for joining us. Thank you very much.
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Thank you for having me.
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And until next week, I'm your host, Dr. Roger Urban,
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signing off on Plastic Surgery Uncensored.