Muppet Treasure Island

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Hurry, hurry, hurry down to Paramnesia Theatre.
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Gather round as four friends share, re -watch,
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and possibly ruin favorite films from their childhoods.
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Be sure to come early and get a good parking
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spot because there's always a good show at the
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drive -in. Now that'll be five dollars a ticket,
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please. Welcome back to Paramnesia Theatre. I
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am excited to be your host this week, and I am
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Riley, and I am here at the table with my best
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friends and lovers. You decide Rebecca oh Tim
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hello Anna hey and the soundboard Amazing Are
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you guys ready to watch Muppet Treasure Island?
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Yeah, fucking are. Alright, let's go. Muppet
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Treasure Island came out in 1996. It has a 6
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.9 out of 10 on IMDB and 80 % on the tomato meter.
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It is rated G. It is directed by Brian Henson.
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This is the second Muppets movie produced by
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Disney before they bought them later on in 2004.
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The first one... being Muppet Christmas Carol.
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And so what that means, nobody actually had the
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rights to distribute this movie when they started
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filming it in London back in 1993. However, Disney
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had first look at it and decided to pick it up
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and then, you know, roll with it. After that,
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it stars Tim Curry as Long John Silver and Kevin
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Bishop as Jim. Little Jim. This movie was made
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on a budget of 31 million. It grossed 34 .3 million
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in the US and Canada and 47 .2 million worldwide.
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It was seen as a moderate commercial success.
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That opening weekend in the box office, it did
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go up against Broken Arrow. I don't think any
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of you guys have seen that. I have. It's actually
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a good movie. It's got Kevin Slater in it, and
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it's about a nuclear bomb and some fantastically
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incorrect science. Cool. We love incorrect science
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in this podcast. And the other movie it went
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up against was? Happy Gilmore. Oh Yes, so very
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big things couple trivia pieces I have before
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I talk about the rest of it. This is obviously
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by on Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island
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Tim Curry was given a muppet in the likeness
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of him as long John Silver after this movie And
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this movie was also sued by Hormel Foods for
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the character Spam who's a pig But it was dismissed
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by the judge who said they couldn't prove any
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rightful damages. And he said one might think
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that Hormel would welcome the association with
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a genuine source of pork. Awesome. Oh, so fantastic.
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They did later on change Spam's name. The next
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time he was seen, he was known as Chief Pig.
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Oh, boy. I like Spam better. Yeah. Any chance
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we can see this Tim Curry Long John Silver Muppet?
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Perhaps Tim can pull it up on the Infrotron that
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he has there. Computer boy, we need you. Coming.
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I hope that was a good whoop. Your face looked
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sad after that. Yeah, because the picture is
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an inch by an inch. Half of us don't have very
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good vision for that. It's real I see it I can't
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enjoy it It is real Maybe I have to figure out
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a different way to word it. But I mean it came
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up so it's out there It's really just that one
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photo. That would be insane Keeps under lock
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and key. Yeah, anyone see it. She doesn't want
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anyone to know so no one tries to rob Nick Cage
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doesn't come national treasure that fucker It
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is a national treasure. It is. And we need to
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see it. Right now! Show me your penis. I mean
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Muppet. Show me your Muppet. Show me your Muppet.
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Man. No. I would love to be turned into a Muppet.
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That'd be so cool. I mean... There's got to be
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a company, right, that does that kind of shit.
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I mean, you can get your own little Funkos made
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of yourself. You can get yourself in like the
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Disney art style and stuff like that. There should
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be a Muppet business where people get turned
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into Muppets. There's got to be something on
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Etsy or something. There isn't already. People
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love Muppets. A landmine or a goldmine. It's
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a landmine. It's a financial landmine. We don't
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know how to make money on it and we're probably
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going to get sued. You know what? I can't believe
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is is now that Muppets is owned by Disney like
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how How is there not that part of it at Disney?
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Like you can go see the farmhouse You could see
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the spaceship You know be so cool, right? I feel
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like that would if they open up like that type
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of a section of the park It would be Muppet land
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Awesome, and then they'd have like artists that
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are like caricature drawings, but they make Muppets
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of you That'd be awesome. Oh, yeah, it'd only
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be like five hundred dollars a muppet, you know,
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yeah super reasonable Well, like most everything
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at Disney is Okay, there is an Etsy shop. It's
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called my custom puppet because they can't say
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muppet, but they're pretty good Christmas gifts.
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Oh my gosh Wow Wow, yeah. All right. That's pretty
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cool I mean, they're $700. That makes sense.
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I mean, they're custom made. $700. Some are as
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low as $550. Can you pick the design? It looks
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like you, Tim. My guess is that you send them
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a photo of yourself. What if I wanted somebody
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else? I'm not very photogenic. Well, they do
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others. I'm just ugly. They did a kiss one as
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a custom job. Oh, that's cool. So you can get
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celebrities and stuff made. It took me a second
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to figure out which one I was looking at. If
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I ever became a millionaire, I wouldn't tell
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anyone, but there would be signs. Anna's whole
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house is filled with Muppets versions of her
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friends and family. No, Anna just sends a surrogate
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Muppet out to stand in for her anytime she has
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to be in public. Yes. Perfect. That'd be awesome.
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So great. All right, let's get back to the Treasure
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Island. I watch this movie quite often. It features
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several original songs by the Muppets. There's
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only one that's not done by the Muppets, and
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it's done by Ziggy Marley, who is Bob Marley's
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son. That is an end credits song, I think. Oh,
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well, Jim has a song and he's not a Muppet. Muppets
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sing with him, though. Yeah, I mean, like. It's
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original song. It's all original song. Ziggy
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Marley is not in the movie as a character. So
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it's all, you know, there's no real music outside
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of Muppets music or outside of original numbers.
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I see what you're saying now. Yeah. I thought
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you were saying it was the only song that Muppets
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don't sing, but I get. No, I get what you're
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saying. Kind of, but. It's the closest we're
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closest we're going to get. Yeah, all right it
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let me zoom in enhance enhance It's adorable
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Oh goodness, that's great. Oh, I love him. Oh
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That's so cute pretty good stuff. Yeah, that's
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fantastic Anna's gonna have to put that one on
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our Instagram. Oh, yes, perfect I'm so glad you
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guys are let me bring this movie that we've all
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definitely seen here today. This is one of my
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favorite movies I absolutely love the story of
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Treasure Island to begin with I think it's fantastic.
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And I think this is like the perfect adventure
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movie. The most adventurous, I think, of any
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Muppet movie. Yeah, probably. And it's also very
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weird to see the Muppets anytime they play characters
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that aren't their Muppet selves. So there are
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several that are in there as themselves. Like
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Miss Piggy. Kind of. I would say adventurous,
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but I mean, not dangerous. Yeah, I think it's
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more dangerous when they go to New York City.
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yeah i don't know i'd beg to differ miss picky
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gets robbed in a park dead tom's dead in this
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one dead tom dies but do you see him die or is
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that just his character he's dead tom you're
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gonna see he's dead tom first but dead tom is
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dead i remember dead tom yeah um fantastic songs
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throughout it though some of my favorites uh
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you sing them all the time i sing them all the
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time i really i really really like this movie
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it is my favorite muppet movie which is a tall
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order it you wear your pirate coat while we watch
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this no it's way too hot okay i had this movie
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on vhs tape so yeah i watched it a lot yeah i
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actually think i do too i might scrounge around
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real quick to try to find it i think it's upstairs
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i think so too i think i know exactly where it
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is in the library no in the closet It's the lock
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and key one. That's the one we're keeping secret.
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Yeah Yes, Tim. It's in the library My precious
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VHS is in the library. Go look for it anytime.
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Of course. I keep something that important in
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an obvious location I actually saw this one in
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theaters. I remember went to McDonald's afterwards.
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I went with My uncle who's very Muppet like he
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only has four fingers on one hand cut the others
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off He just wanted to be normal, but he doesn't
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count very well Yeah, it was really exciting
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cut this next part out. I shit my pants in the
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ball pit We are cutting it I didn't tell anybody
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been there I rode all the way home in My aunt's
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truck with my shitty pants. I didn't say anything
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Ben there done that. Yeah, I feel you brother.
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I can relate. I don't know a safe place I don't
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know why nobody brought it up is evident at this
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point. You smell shit. You smell shit when somebody's
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covered in it Nobody because were you old enough
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to the point so it shouldn't have happened. Yeah,
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exactly. That's why no one talks about it Yeah,
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yeah, they're like don't make it worse. It's
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gonna scar them for life. It's not like he'll
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remember it when he's 30 31 years later. I'm
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still bringing it up to embarrass myself Well,
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I know what's going into my next therapy session.
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All right. What questions we got? I don't have
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a lot of questions. I mean, I remember this movie
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fairly well. There's going to be things that
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I forgot about because I don't totally remember
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everything. I don't watch it as often as you.
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Yeah. I don't want to ask any questions. I will
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remember as I view it. Perfect. What did you
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bring for a snack? All right. So on my way over
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I was interested I was interrupted whilst strolling
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downhill by a Why'd you shake your head? I just
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was covering both ways I was just kind of that's
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just we said it while I was strolling downhill
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and I was just like, where are we going? I'm
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going down here to the theater Down the hill.
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Anyways, I was approached by a very lovely couple
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That were having an argument One had some honey
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and the other had some waffles in their hand
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and they seemed to have like bumped into each
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other and One was yelling you got honey in my
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waffles and the other you know, you got your
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waffles in my honey But then magically in front
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of all of us the honey and waffles combined to
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make one solid dessert So they decided to share
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them with me as well as some ground coffee. They
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were keeping in their pocket So essentially I
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brought some honey stroop waffles with some Delightful
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medium roast coffee. Oh Wow should be and there's
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actually a very has anyone had stoop waffles
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before no, okay The way to do it. We're gonna
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we're gonna take these little waffles. They're
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like They're not like a Eggo waffle or whatever
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They're like hard and they've got like this honey
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kind of thing inside them and apparently you
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put it on your your hot beverage Which for us
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is probably is gonna be coffee unless somebody
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would prefer tea or hot water Just straight hot
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water. You put it on top for two minutes and
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then you're ready to go. It must like, you know,
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warm up the inside. Like steam it. Yeah. Delightful.
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Yes. The last time I was going downhill and I
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fell into somebody who had a waffle, we just
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had falafels. Awesome. Oh, are those pirate cannons
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I hear? Let us go. Coffee and snacks and many
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other pleasing treats. Our foods are fresh and
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tasty, our drinks satisfying and refreshing.
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All right, welcome back. What did everybody think
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of this amazing movie? Another great Muppet movie.
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Yo -ho -ho and a bottle of fun. God, I love the
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Muppets. Fuck. Yeah right on I know it's actually
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I don't really have to ask because we did say
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this is a must watch and we've all seen it before
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so It shouldn't have been anything like you know
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new No, I wasn't surprised. I loved it, but I
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did see how much I forgotten about even though
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the most recent watches probably three to five
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years ago Was surprised how much I forgot as
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well just opening scene. I was like, oh, yeah,
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I forgot all about this Yeah, the opening scene
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is actually probably the only part I really remember
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that and when they're on the beach and they're
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singing the professional pirate song and that's
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it for me I Put on the Muppets a lot to go to
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sleep So you probably see that part a lot and
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I sing that song a lot because it's one of my
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favorites You do sing this song a lot, which
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is why I remember that scene so well, but the
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opening scene is like that That blind pirate
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really fucked me up as a kid. Yeah. I didn't
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like that at all. The black spa and then the
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fire and all that. It was scary. Yeah. Yeah,
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I forgot about all of that happening. The way
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it stays true to the original source material
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is amazing. And the same way they treated A Christmas
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Carol, we're like, they're still telling the
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story. It's just Muppets are there as well. Yeah,
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I did have one question. Do you know who Fozzie
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Bear's counterpart is for the book? The Squire.
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Okay, so is he like an idiot and stuff just like
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no cuz it should have been like his dad Yeah,
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that he would have met. Okay. He was the dimwitted
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son of the squire young squire Cool. Yeah Which
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is really fun. I like how they were like, oh,
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we're going to meet this guy and that's the guy
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they're supposed to and then they're like But
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we replaced him with Fozzie bear who's an idiot.
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He's got a guy that lives in his finger. Mr.
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Pimbo Yeah, I don't get that part really I it's
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the only time that I've ever seen it referenced
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in the Muppets But it's fun. It's obviously not
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part of the book No, it's just funny. Cool. Cool.
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Mm -hmm He's dim -witted I can get down with
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it. I'm not complaining just curious. Apparently
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it's like code word for like literally an imbecile.
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Mm -hmm. Cool. I Liked all the songs Every single
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song is so fucking good I could skip the Kermit
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and Piggy song. Oh, of course, everybody could
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skip that song. Yeah, because it's less fun than
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the rest of them. Yeah, I agree. I forgot about
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the Cabin Fever one. I used to love that one.
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That is my favorite. Yeah, that one came on and
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I was like, oh, yes, I love this part. I forgot
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all about that. I definitely did skip the Kermit
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and Piggy song. When you guys said that's what
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was happening at the end, I was like, I don't...
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remember the song at all. It wasn't very memorable.
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Yeah, I think I just kind of zoned out. That's
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when you took all your notes. Yeah, it might
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have been. I always liked that scene because
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I like the fire with the ropes and how the tension's
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building that they're gonna fall and then Kermit
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grabs Piggy's legs and he's struggling, he's
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got his eyes open. Bulge out of his head second
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movie in a row with crazy eyes going on. Yeah,
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it's super great because Frank Oz actually wasn't
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available for most of the movie and So somebody
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else actually does all of his puppeting and he
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comes at most of the puppeting and he comes in
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He did do the voices afterwards, but he like
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had to tell them, you know teach them the persona
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of Kermit the Frog And the guy did a really good
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job. I never need that until today When I was
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looking it up earlier, so that's cool. Mm -hmm.
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I like when Kermit's like under pressure and
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they like squashes face down. Yeah, and the little
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puppet face folds. I think it looks so funny.
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I Really like the innkeeper lady at the beginning.
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Yes When she at the end when she's like, it's
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okay guys. Get out of here. Yeah crashes through
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a stone wall I don't think I ever noticed that
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before. Yeah, how does she do that? Which is
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a running joke. Yeah, it was awesome. I really
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love that opening scene too. And when Gonzo and
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Rizzo were like trying to load a gun, it goes
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exactly how you would expect those two trying
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to load a gun would go. Rizzo's dropping the
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bullets everywhere. Gonzo's just dropping black
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powder. And then the scene where they're running
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back and forth away from the black powder has
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always been one of my favorites. Classic. They're
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the reason why the tavern blew up. 100%. Yep.
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They did way more damage than the pirate. Yeah.
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Mm -hmm. They're Michael Bay's inspiration This
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needs more gunpowder But I think it falls so
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it's a little different than you know, the farmhouse
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scene or you know the opening scene not the opening
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scene, but the house scene and Muppets from space
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but they still did such a good job making the
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scenes like Special like the boats a hard thing
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to do but the boat has always given me this this
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feeling of adventure and like realness to it
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even though you can clearly tell that like It's
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built just for this unlike the farmhouse which
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felt like this is might be a farmhouse that they
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that they found But the scenes that they set
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were all so fun. I Just enjoy them so very much
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Sorry. Oh, I should say there's always so much
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to look at in all the scenes like when uh, jim
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there is singing his song about wanting to be
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An explorer or whatever and they pan out and
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they're in the kitchen like all the pictures
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are hanging The like water pictures are hanging
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around them the mugs and stuff and it just feels
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so layered. Yeah Yeah, I was really enjoying
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the set piece for when they were singing the
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professional pirate song the whole beach Like
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you can tell it's a set. Yeah, but it almost
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adds to the magic as opposed to it being a real
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location it feels like a set that i want to be
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on because it seems like it's fun yeah it's like
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a really expensive um play yeah another thing
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i like in almost every scene there's like so
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much going on um they made so many things like
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very muppety down to like skulls was singing
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were muppets and this alligator and some random
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crabs and the Easter Island heads are saying
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like there was so much beyond just the just the
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puppets in this one the whole world felt very
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Muppety and puppety and like I think they easily
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outnumbered the number of humans in this That
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it felt like almost like the people were the
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strange ones in the world Where the Muppets really,
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you know were a lot of what made up the population
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I thought It was one of my notes with the opening
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scene. It was really more like the island was
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singing to the pirates. Like they were really
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creating the landscape and the pirates just kind
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of like something to watch. I don't know. It
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was a very unique feeling when that was happening.
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Yeah. This one had a bit of violence in it for
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a Muppet film. In one of the songs, the pirates
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are singing about killing people and how they
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like to do it. And the first guy said walk the
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plank the second guy said slit their throats
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And the third guy said to hang them by their
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necks and watch their legs try to walk That is
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fucking graphic Is that from the book? No, there's
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no music Oh no, this is just straight from Jim
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Hansen's imagination It was just kind of a lot
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for the Muppets. I was like, okay I said this
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one was violent They killed that Tom But Dead
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Tom was already dead. Oh, our bones there also
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died. Yeah. Mm hmm. This is supposed to be a
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kids movie. Yeah, that was great. Right off right
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up from the beginning. And it is weird. This
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one is way more violent. Like people are blowing
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up even the first scene. Like there's explosions.
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And this one's rated G where. Actually, I'm confusing.
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I don't know what the last one was rated Muppets
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from Space. Yeah. That one's also g right on
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I think every muppets i'm comparing this to the
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movie that I was gonna bring which is a pg -13
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I forgot Muppets pg -13. Yeah, what are they
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doing? I mean, uh, yeah, i'd watch that for real
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definitely The main difference is kermit and
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miss piggy use tongue His frog tongue It just
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wraps around her head then back into her mouth
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It's so upsetting. Yeah There's there's just
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so many good parts to this movie It moved pretty
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quick though. I will say like they get on the
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ocean and the ocean moves in Two back -to -back
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songs. They pretty much move through the ocean.
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Mm -hmm Yeah, but actually the part on the island
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was a lot longer than I remembered Yeah, I thought
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being on the ship would be more of the story
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than it was You know who I'm glad got a lot of
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spotlight Tim Curry well yeah obviously uh no
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samuel arrow i love the eagle guy he is so fucking
00:23:52.150 --> 00:23:56.609
awesome sam eagle sam eagle whatever yeah he's
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a fun character yeah like when he comes back
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as the ghost because he's very patriotic he's
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always a patriotic character and he still wore
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red white and blue in this movie which is very
00:24:06.509 --> 00:24:09.769
funny but i like how he's like gassing kermit
00:24:09.769 --> 00:24:13.670
up to be this this like no nonsense, murderous
00:24:13.670 --> 00:24:16.250
captain, and he's telling people to walk the
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plank, or he's going to kill the next person
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that, you know, doesn't fall in line or whatever.
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Shoot him dead. Yeah. And Kurt's like, I didn't
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say that. I'm paraphrasing. Yeah. The violent
00:24:25.549 --> 00:24:27.789
things that Sam said would be done. Yeah. Also
00:24:27.789 --> 00:24:31.289
pretty wild. Mm hmm. Yes. A lot of weird violence
00:24:31.289 --> 00:24:36.369
in this one. Yeah. I like when they finally do
00:24:36.369 --> 00:24:38.670
the roll call. He's like all up until then there's
00:24:38.670 --> 00:24:40.910
so many people moving around the ship like you
00:24:40.910 --> 00:24:43.730
you can't tell Like exactly who's who but then
00:24:43.730 --> 00:24:45.410
when they're going through and it's just a bunch
00:24:45.410 --> 00:24:48.450
of pirates Yeah, it gets me every time especially
00:24:48.450 --> 00:24:55.289
when they get to bug faced, uh Bug faced baby
00:24:55.289 --> 00:24:57.769
eating o 'brien or whatever and it's like the
00:24:57.769 --> 00:25:00.769
the hottest chicken sam arrow and kermit's like
00:25:00.769 --> 00:25:05.170
jaws just drop That's so silly And Angel Marie
00:25:05.170 --> 00:25:08.190
was like this hideous thing. Like a sea monster.
00:25:09.190 --> 00:25:12.190
It's so funny. Did you ever see Beetle Big Bob
00:25:12.190 --> 00:25:16.009
again after that? No. No. No. Yeah, just there
00:25:16.009 --> 00:25:19.349
and gone. Just there. Drops it a clearly when
00:25:19.349 --> 00:25:22.269
you watch it on a good TV, a clearly like obviously
00:25:22.269 --> 00:25:24.789
not her voice. Oh, yeah. Like the lowest voice
00:25:24.789 --> 00:25:30.349
ever. Yeah, she doesn't show up again. Just there
00:25:30.349 --> 00:25:34.940
for comedy. It was good. And then Headless, whoever.
00:25:35.220 --> 00:25:37.359
Headless Jack. Headless Jack. That was fantastic.
00:25:37.700 --> 00:25:40.299
The big tall monster who was like smushums or
00:25:40.299 --> 00:25:42.940
what? Sweetums? Sweetums? Snookums. Sweetie?
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Snookums. No. Right? No. I don't know. Sweetums
00:25:46.940 --> 00:25:49.799
maybe? Probably not, but. No, Sweetums kind of
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:51.119
sounds weird, though. I feel like it's Sweetums.
00:25:51.460 --> 00:25:54.019
It is Sweetums, yeah. Which is weird, because
00:25:54.019 --> 00:25:58.920
I can never remember its name. And I always like
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that one. I always like him too. He actually
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:02.579
had lines in this one, which he doesn't always.
00:26:02.740 --> 00:26:06.000
That and a huge supporting role of the professional
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:09.039
pirate as far as like choreographing with carrying
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:11.440
Tim Curry. I was just thinking about that. I
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:13.099
was like, okay, so there's one guy who's definitely
00:26:13.099 --> 00:26:16.599
the legs, body, and probably arms. Someone else
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:20.160
is working the face. And then presumably there's
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:22.440
a third guy in there who's actually doing the
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:24.859
lifting of Tim Curry. because i can't imagine
00:26:24.859 --> 00:26:28.380
the guy in the puppet costume actually is they
00:26:28.380 --> 00:26:30.980
can't see what's going on i was thinking they
00:26:30.980 --> 00:26:33.200
could because i'm thinking like mascots do that
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kind of shit and it's not the same suit but sort
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:40.579
of the same setup yeah i don't know they used
00:26:40.579 --> 00:26:43.000
them really well because at the end they made
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.799
it look like just sweetums was holding up long
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:48.299
john obviously i i actually think it was more
00:26:48.299 --> 00:26:53.779
of an apparatus situation because um uh Black
00:26:53.779 --> 00:26:56.880
-eyed bill He kept helping as well. Like you'd
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.400
see him like he'd bend over and be doing something
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:02.180
with Tim Curry black -eyed pee Black -eyed pee.
00:27:02.180 --> 00:27:06.579
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah not black -eyed bill and They
00:27:06.579 --> 00:27:08.599
did that really well there like he was a very
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:11.460
convincing scene However, it got done like did
00:27:11.460 --> 00:27:13.940
not look silly or foolish. I believe that you
00:27:13.940 --> 00:27:17.000
know Sweetums had a part in holding up Tim Curry.
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:21.059
Mm -hmm. Also Tim Curry like having one leg they
00:27:21.059 --> 00:27:24.039
did it very well however they hid his true leg
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:28.500
yeah yeah incredible yeah i wonder how many times
00:27:28.500 --> 00:27:31.660
his leg just like fell asleep like they finally
00:27:31.660 --> 00:27:34.099
untie or whatever however they have it held back
00:27:34.099 --> 00:27:35.700
there and he just like goes to stand on just
00:27:35.700 --> 00:27:40.519
falls over he needs the crutch anyway it really
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:43.519
speaks to tim curry's talent um to stand out
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:47.819
among the muppets he They picked the perfect
00:27:47.819 --> 00:27:50.859
person quite frankly and like he had the greatest
00:27:50.859 --> 00:27:54.000
voice for the pirate song. Mm -hmm And the pirate
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.539
everything too. Yeah, and like just the way he
00:27:56.539 --> 00:28:00.480
sings. It's it's amazing That pirate song was
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.000
fucking fire. Yeah, he's a really good voice.
00:28:03.019 --> 00:28:06.460
Mm -hmm. He was made for the stage. Yeah, absolutely.
00:28:08.700 --> 00:28:17.029
I Really liked rat tours limited In pirate Welcome
00:28:17.029 --> 00:28:20.890
aboard, Mr. Plagueman. Oh, dude, come on. Rizzo's
00:28:20.890 --> 00:28:24.289
so funny in this. He's so reluctant to actually
00:28:24.289 --> 00:28:27.529
go on the adventure, but ends up doing it to
00:28:27.529 --> 00:28:32.650
his chagrin, but he's like so risk -averse throughout
00:28:32.650 --> 00:28:35.309
the whole thing. They really did a great job
00:28:35.309 --> 00:28:36.990
with his character and keeping it consistent
00:28:36.990 --> 00:28:39.559
throughout. And keeping him entrepreneurial by
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:41.140
being like, well, I'm going to at least make
00:28:41.140 --> 00:28:43.839
money somehow. I'm going to sell tickets to this
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:45.759
cruise. And honestly, the rats look like they
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.500
had so much fun on their Caribbean cruise. They
00:28:48.500 --> 00:28:52.500
had late night songs where like also several
00:28:52.500 --> 00:28:54.900
rat couples were just macking it throughout.
00:28:55.619 --> 00:28:58.680
They had margaritas at the midnight buffet. Yep.
00:28:59.299 --> 00:29:03.119
Just he did a fantastic job putting on that that
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:05.880
cruise for them. This is the location they used
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:09.400
in. Muppet Treasure Island. Yeah. I'm glad it
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:11.519
wasn't just a one off at the beginning that he
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.460
had the rats, that it was like a whole thing
00:29:13.460 --> 00:29:15.980
throughout the whole movie. Yeah. They play a
00:29:15.980 --> 00:29:18.400
great part all the way through. It's just it's
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.400
so funny. They add like another layer, like a
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.740
fifth wall. Yeah. Yeah. Fun. Because they're
00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:27.619
completely oblivious to everything that's going
00:29:27.619 --> 00:29:30.940
on on the boat. And like they're it's wild because
00:29:30.940 --> 00:29:34.519
they blend in, especially with the rats, modern
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.619
day stuff. That is not like representative throughout
00:29:37.619 --> 00:29:40.460
the rest of the film except for like some throwaway
00:29:40.460 --> 00:29:44.220
Lines, but like the rats are straight -up Jet
00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:47.259
skiing. Yeah, which is an awesome scene too.
00:29:47.259 --> 00:29:51.500
And it's like I'm getting tired I'm getting tired.
00:29:51.500 --> 00:29:57.019
He said go faster There was the perfect way to
00:29:57.019 --> 00:30:00.019
kind of break up what was happening just kind
00:30:00.019 --> 00:30:01.259
of give you a little breather before they went
00:30:01.259 --> 00:30:03.880
the next scene and like that was I think where
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.140
the Best little I mean just brilliant little
00:30:07.140 --> 00:30:08.980
add -in right there and it keep it consistently
00:30:08.980 --> 00:30:10.440
happening and you're like, okay I was a good
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:13.319
gag and then it comes back and it comes back
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:14.900
and comes back and here's like every time I came
00:30:14.900 --> 00:30:16.920
back I was like, oh no way they did it again.
00:30:17.019 --> 00:30:19.200
Yeah, it's so good cuz you're like invested You're
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.000
like man, I'd watch a movie just on this little
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.980
rat cruise going on I love how the band was only
00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:27.779
there for the cruise The whole band is there
00:30:27.779 --> 00:30:29.720
with like the electric kit like the sax everything
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:34.809
and then Yeah, but like where are they are they
00:30:34.809 --> 00:30:36.910
on the ship? We never see him anywhere except
00:30:36.910 --> 00:30:40.630
like set up on a beach from what I remember Yeah,
00:30:40.630 --> 00:30:42.490
yeah, they're on the boat during cabin fever
00:30:42.490 --> 00:30:45.609
and then they're on they're on the island which
00:30:45.609 --> 00:30:48.750
had a great line Hey, man, are we with the frog
00:30:48.750 --> 00:30:52.269
captain or the pirate captain? Don't get involved
00:30:52.269 --> 00:31:00.460
with politics man. Just focus on the gig So much
00:31:00.460 --> 00:31:03.819
reference to what gonzo is and where he's from.
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.940
Yeah, love that. He's whatever he's a whatever.
00:31:07.220 --> 00:31:12.700
Yeah, I Didn't before we watched it muppets from
00:31:12.700 --> 00:31:16.299
space. I Really didn't catch on like that. It
00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:18.759
happened so much throughout this movie. Yeah,
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.140
like three or four times. They call it. Yeah
00:31:21.140 --> 00:31:25.140
It's amazing how they set things up well ahead
00:31:25.140 --> 00:31:28.549
of time mmm This movie honestly, it just felt
00:31:28.549 --> 00:31:31.470
like they were having fun Yeah, which they probably
00:31:31.470 --> 00:31:35.430
needed after you know the Christmas carol one
00:31:35.430 --> 00:31:40.809
which great movie not like a fun Subject matter
00:31:40.809 --> 00:31:46.670
or time for them now this was before Muppets
00:31:46.670 --> 00:31:50.369
from space. Yes, so Maybe they're just really
00:31:50.369 --> 00:31:54.470
good more at just adapting each sequential film
00:31:54.470 --> 00:31:57.400
into now. This is canon How are we going to use
00:31:57.400 --> 00:31:58.720
that toward the next thing? How are we going
00:31:58.720 --> 00:31:59.940
to use that toward the next thing? And they're
00:31:59.940 --> 00:32:01.839
just good at kind of dropping all those little
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.819
cues. Yeah. Because it does make it a more enjoyable
00:32:04.819 --> 00:32:06.420
experience to go back and watch them again when
00:32:06.420 --> 00:32:07.720
you're like, oh, this little bit's in this one
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:09.420
and this little bit's in that one. Oh, they reference
00:32:09.420 --> 00:32:13.819
this and that other thing. Yeah. I really enjoyed
00:32:13.819 --> 00:32:16.799
how Fozzie's character came out in the ocean,
00:32:16.819 --> 00:32:19.339
the big blue wet thing. I remember when I was
00:32:19.339 --> 00:32:21.039
a kid, I used to get such a kick out of that.
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.619
And I forgot how much I loved the goat. Yeah,
00:32:24.619 --> 00:32:30.819
yeah, man classic lines. Yeah, oh You're so beautiful.
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.079
He's precious. Oh, you're so precious. You're
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:38.119
so kind Just the way he was laughing I think
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:40.500
that might have been my breakthrough as a child
00:32:40.500 --> 00:32:43.019
and starting to enjoy the more of a stoner esque
00:32:43.019 --> 00:32:45.779
comedy Yeah, like that dude is a straight stoner
00:32:45.779 --> 00:32:49.359
a hundred percent hilarious. It's I found the
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:53.329
Lobster was very funny Polly the lobster instead
00:32:53.329 --> 00:32:55.670
of Polly the parrot and they start like ridiculing
00:32:55.670 --> 00:32:59.390
Jim like a pirate with a parrot. That's so stupid
00:32:59.390 --> 00:33:01.549
You're like, it's a fucking lobster. He's not
00:33:01.549 --> 00:33:05.230
even in water. I Really liked the other one there
00:33:05.230 --> 00:33:09.109
the green blob. Yeah, I really enjoy him Such
00:33:09.109 --> 00:33:11.769
a dirty -looking pirate. Yeah, I didn't I don't
00:33:11.769 --> 00:33:17.630
even remember his name Monty was it There's just
00:33:17.630 --> 00:33:20.710
so there are so many cool pirate muppets dead
00:33:20.710 --> 00:33:27.059
Tom Old Tom. Real old Tom, dead Tom. Real old
00:33:27.059 --> 00:33:29.420
Tom was like a mummy or something. Yeah, real
00:33:29.420 --> 00:33:34.039
old Tom looked pretty old. I think he was buried
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:40.079
at one point. In watching this, I think that
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:44.700
this is the original Muppets movie for me. I
00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:46.880
don't know if I've ever seen any other Muppets
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.220
before this one, or at least not as many times
00:33:49.220 --> 00:33:53.160
as a kid. Maybe Christmas Carol, but yeah, I
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:54.839
feel like I watched this one before I saw the
00:33:54.839 --> 00:34:00.099
Christmas Carol. It's you. Yeah Yeah, I definitely
00:34:00.099 --> 00:34:04.359
would have So it been three when a Christmas
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:09.480
Carol comes out it came out oh Yeah, and I know
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:12.690
it's not one we had on VHS Speaking of VHS, we
00:34:12.690 --> 00:34:15.750
found this on VHS. My copy wasn't great, and
00:34:15.750 --> 00:34:17.670
clearly did not rewind all the way to the beginning,
00:34:17.789 --> 00:34:20.650
because it just started. It was like, we're just
00:34:20.650 --> 00:34:23.230
picking up here. Great sentence, even. Yeah,
00:34:23.489 --> 00:34:28.050
twice I hit stop and rewind to go back, and it
00:34:28.050 --> 00:34:30.510
acted like it was as far back as it was going
00:34:30.510 --> 00:34:33.570
to go, because mine, when you get there, it shuts
00:34:33.570 --> 00:34:36.190
off and ejects the tape every time. And it did
00:34:36.190 --> 00:34:41.489
that both times, but no commercials. no intro
00:34:41.489 --> 00:34:45.010
just straight into singing did we even see the
00:34:45.010 --> 00:34:49.429
title card or no yeah yeah i don't so i don't
00:34:49.429 --> 00:34:52.929
know what was going on with that but um it has
00:34:52.929 --> 00:34:56.650
been quite some time since that bad larry's been
00:34:56.650 --> 00:35:00.590
played it did not affect my feelings of this
00:35:00.590 --> 00:35:03.610
movie i was happy with it in fact it kind of
00:35:03.610 --> 00:35:06.449
made it more nostalgic anyway yeah Although every
00:35:06.449 --> 00:35:09.489
time it went black I was like, oh no. I had my
00:35:09.489 --> 00:35:12.829
worries. I only did it like right at the beginning
00:35:12.829 --> 00:35:16.190
and then right at the end, I think. Maybe I stopped
00:35:16.190 --> 00:35:18.429
seeing it. There was a few parts in the middle.
00:35:19.670 --> 00:35:23.070
At least they weren't long. No, they weren't.
00:35:23.070 --> 00:35:25.630
It did not take away at all. At one point I thought
00:35:25.630 --> 00:35:28.349
it added because it like cut to black and then
00:35:28.349 --> 00:35:30.750
cut back on, um, Tim Curry's face when he was
00:35:30.750 --> 00:35:34.050
like weeping at one point. I was like, well damn,
00:35:34.150 --> 00:35:40.510
okay. Good job D not DVD VHS Tim Curry shines
00:35:40.510 --> 00:35:45.130
no matter what so yeah, I Can't imagine anybody
00:35:45.130 --> 00:35:49.590
else in this role. No He was perfect Speaking
00:35:49.590 --> 00:35:53.030
of perfect miss piggy's entrance to boom shakalaka
00:35:53.030 --> 00:35:55.969
You think get a real ass elephant in that in
00:35:55.969 --> 00:35:58.929
that shot, which is insane cuz like why would
00:35:58.929 --> 00:36:01.059
they? I heard an elephant. I was like, oh, that's
00:36:01.059 --> 00:36:03.239
crazy. They're like adding elephant noises and
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:05.360
then like boom elephant I was like, oh, there's
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:07.780
an elephant. There's an elephant in the room
00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:16.360
And it's riding on an elephant Everybody was
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.840
pretty nice to her in this one liked her dress.
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:20.800
Yeah, that was really cool I mean, she's pretty
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.820
badass. She beat up a lot of pirates. I like
00:36:22.820 --> 00:36:24.760
how she was Pretty much like you dumped me at
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:26.739
the altar so I went and banged this other ship
00:36:26.739 --> 00:36:28.800
captain and then he left me here and then Long
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.039
John Silver shows up she goes hey Kermit's like
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.280
him too and it's just like whoa there's a lot
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.400
of uh She said you should have married me She
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.780
says at one point I'm a pig I need commitment
00:36:39.780 --> 00:36:43.420
and I'm like what the fuck does that mean? I
00:36:43.420 --> 00:36:45.639
don't think Long John Silver was giving you commitment
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.019
either no well that was the name of his commitment
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.119
The way she says it too when she sees him Long
00:36:55.119 --> 00:37:11.400
John Oh no, oh he does still have two legs There's
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:15.280
that scene before the mutiny I guess the night
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.530
before where the ship is in the fog And that
00:37:18.530 --> 00:37:21.449
was a really cool scene. I mean that the ship
00:37:21.449 --> 00:37:27.050
looked so so real in that And I was like lost
00:37:27.050 --> 00:37:29.449
and how cool that was and then the foghorn thing
00:37:29.449 --> 00:37:31.489
turns out to be that one monster just like yelling
00:37:31.489 --> 00:37:37.530
at the helm That's funny What did you Tim? I'm
00:37:37.530 --> 00:37:39.230
interested. What did you think of the kid that
00:37:39.230 --> 00:37:41.469
played the main part? You're always hyper critical
00:37:41.469 --> 00:37:46.849
on blonde Children Boys playing playing in movies.
00:37:46.849 --> 00:37:49.929
Yeah, you know ever since like the late 1940s
00:37:49.929 --> 00:37:59.349
blonde people have just kind of free The I mean
00:37:59.349 --> 00:38:02.030
it was harder as an adult, but it was easier
00:38:02.030 --> 00:38:04.550
to forgive because as a kid I don't think that
00:38:04.550 --> 00:38:09.550
I noticed that at all, but The songs were a little
00:38:09.550 --> 00:38:12.530
rough, but I did read that Kevin Bishop went
00:38:12.530 --> 00:38:14.849
through puberty during the filming. They had
00:38:14.849 --> 00:38:17.230
to overdub his singing performances with older
00:38:17.230 --> 00:38:19.630
recordings of the songs. So when you're like,
00:38:19.949 --> 00:38:21.949
man, this voice doesn't really match up with
00:38:21.949 --> 00:38:24.429
what he looks like. It's because they recorded
00:38:24.429 --> 00:38:26.369
the songs first and then he was getting older
00:38:26.369 --> 00:38:29.510
and couldn't sing them. So they had to. Oh, that's
00:38:29.510 --> 00:38:31.690
wild. Them notes were fucking high. I was going
00:38:31.690 --> 00:38:34.210
to say like it doesn't it's clearly him, but
00:38:34.210 --> 00:38:38.070
it doesn't look like it belongs to him. He looks
00:38:38.070 --> 00:38:41.309
too old. Yeah, and that voice is high. Man, I
00:38:41.309 --> 00:38:43.690
feel like that kid got picked on after he did
00:38:43.690 --> 00:38:45.869
that and went back to school. I wonder if on
00:38:45.869 --> 00:38:49.670
set, it implies with like overdubbing that he
00:38:49.670 --> 00:38:54.309
actually was singing it like on the stage. How
00:38:54.309 --> 00:38:56.849
difficult must it have been for some of the actors
00:38:56.849 --> 00:38:59.090
to keep it together when he's like full going
00:38:59.090 --> 00:39:02.190
for those high ranges and just squeak, squeak?
00:39:02.769 --> 00:39:05.210
Well, good thing most of the actors are puppets.
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.679
You know how fun must it be? You know, I don't
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:11.940
know how old he's 13 14 to be on set and have
00:39:11.940 --> 00:39:13.539
all of these puppets laughing at you when you're
00:39:13.539 --> 00:39:17.179
going through puberty Ridiculing you getting
00:39:17.179 --> 00:39:20.019
ridiculed by a pig a promiscuous pig He's like
00:39:20.019 --> 00:39:22.039
40 now and he can't get off without puppets laughing
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:26.500
at him in the corner It's just tied to his psyche
00:39:26.500 --> 00:39:29.800
imagine how bad he felt With when his voice cracked
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.219
and he's singing next to tim currie. He's just
00:39:32.219 --> 00:39:35.260
out there and like with the most perfect voice
00:39:35.260 --> 00:39:37.360
possible Yeah, but he's probably like don't worry
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.239
kid. It happens to the best of us. Yeah Man,
00:39:40.260 --> 00:39:42.900
it must have been a fun set to be on quite frankly.
00:39:42.900 --> 00:39:46.420
It just seems like a good time The uh producer
00:39:46.420 --> 00:39:48.940
and director brian henson was nervous that the
00:39:48.940 --> 00:39:50.699
whole cast and crew would get motion sick as
00:39:50.699 --> 00:39:53.639
the ship rolled on the gimbals He gave everyone
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.340
seasickness pills for the first day of the shoot
00:39:56.780 --> 00:39:59.139
The cast and crew did not get seasick, but they
00:39:59.139 --> 00:40:02.500
almost fell asleep on the job. So he just accidentally
00:40:02.500 --> 00:40:04.280
drugged his whole crew trying to watch their
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:09.059
back. That's so funny. Oh, Tim Curry tried a
00:40:09.059 --> 00:40:11.380
peg leg, but the discomfort forced him to change
00:40:11.380 --> 00:40:17.860
to using a crutch. Huh. Oh. Jim was really stupid.
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:22.250
Yeah. The kid? Yeah. Oh yeah. He had no dad,
00:40:22.289 --> 00:40:24.949
so. I know, and I know he's a kid, and I know
00:40:24.949 --> 00:40:27.150
he was looking at Long John Silver as a dad,
00:40:27.210 --> 00:40:30.989
but it's like, come on, man. The kid said or
00:40:30.989 --> 00:40:33.570
the guy said, avoid the guy with the one leg.
00:40:33.869 --> 00:40:36.590
And you immediately were like, he's my best friend.
00:40:36.929 --> 00:40:40.489
He seems like a good dude. He seems like a cool
00:40:40.489 --> 00:40:42.230
guy, man. I don't know. There's got to be more
00:40:42.230 --> 00:40:45.170
than one person out there with one leg. I mean,
00:40:45.250 --> 00:40:48.539
yeah, that's true, but still like. Maybe take
00:40:48.539 --> 00:40:51.460
he'd he also advised against running with scissors,
00:40:51.460 --> 00:40:55.119
which was also great advice Mm -hmm and a scene
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:57.920
later There's a pirate who very much is blind
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.179
in one eye and I was like, are they gonna talk
00:41:00.179 --> 00:41:03.320
about it? Is that why is that part of his old
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:05.179
crew and he's like, oh, it's old scissor. Eye.
00:41:05.179 --> 00:41:07.920
He's blind in both eyes No, there's there's one
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.480
pilot comes through this eye is white. Oh, that's
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:11.420
right. That's right I thought you're talking
00:41:11.420 --> 00:41:14.079
about the blue guy that knows up with eye batches
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:16.960
on both sides which had an awesome line when
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:19.639
Rizzo and Gonzo are hiding under the table and
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.500
he's like that guy looks like a blind fiend and
00:41:22.500 --> 00:41:25.639
Gonzo's like I think they prefer visually challenged
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:28.159
fiend and then like a few lines later he's like
00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:31.599
I'm visually challenged but like I can still
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:34.900
smell you and then he runs into the moose who
00:41:34.900 --> 00:41:36.559
I didn't realize is a recurring character the
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.679
moose was just in the last one as well Didn't
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:41.400
see the moose in the last he's in the house.
00:41:41.539 --> 00:41:44.119
Yeah, I must have glanced away for a second Yeah,
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.280
you can't do that was the fastest scene going
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.500
I forgot it was like Sentient yeah alive and
00:41:50.500 --> 00:41:52.659
I was like alive's not the right word. It's only
00:41:52.659 --> 00:41:57.980
the head Weird and grab or the blind guy grabs
00:41:57.980 --> 00:42:01.000
Jim's hair and he goes a little girl I was like,
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:06.170
oh, I don't know. You can't say that Yeah Everybody's
00:42:06.170 --> 00:42:08.750
pretty cool though and it like in terms of sword
00:42:08.750 --> 00:42:12.090
fighting muppets a that blue guy Whatever his
00:42:12.090 --> 00:42:14.730
name was moved pretty quick against Billy Bones
00:42:14.730 --> 00:42:18.809
and Kermit's sword play at the end Just fantastic
00:42:18.809 --> 00:42:21.230
all up until you know, the last moment until
00:42:21.230 --> 00:42:24.530
his slippery frog hands. Yep, and he had Miss
00:42:24.530 --> 00:42:27.929
Piggy as a chess piece It was fantastic. I never
00:42:27.929 --> 00:42:32.510
saw that as a kid. Yeah wild hilarious That was
00:42:32.510 --> 00:42:36.679
really cool loves the kermit with some tats yeah
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:42.199
it makes them hotter honestly long john silver
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.420
offers the captain my very own best brandy laid
00:42:45.420 --> 00:42:48.739
down by the brothers of buckfist abbey buckfist
00:42:48.739 --> 00:42:51.519
tonic wine is a caffeinated fortified wine sold
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:53.760
in the british isles it's known for being cheap
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.059
and very potent often drunk by those who want
00:42:56.059 --> 00:42:58.539
to get as drunk as possible for as little money
00:42:58.539 --> 00:43:01.400
as possible it's there ever clear that's perfect
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:04.139
i thought for some reason maybe it was like Poisoned
00:43:04.139 --> 00:43:06.099
so he was like drink this then they die takes
00:43:06.099 --> 00:43:08.320
a ship bang easy peasy but now just the idea
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.179
that he's like I'm just gonna get him as wasted
00:43:10.179 --> 00:43:14.619
as quickly as I possibly can and then I Was gonna
00:43:14.619 --> 00:43:16.760
say have his way with them, but that's not that's
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:18.920
not what I meant. I meant have his way with the
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.099
map take their stuff Take over the whole ship.
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.929
Yeah, and I like when Fozzie keeps throwing the
00:43:25.929 --> 00:43:28.170
brandy out the window and then finally the rats
00:43:28.170 --> 00:43:30.449
pop up pop up Hey, you're peeling the paint off
00:43:30.449 --> 00:43:33.269
the shuffleboard court. Come on ladies and the
00:43:33.269 --> 00:43:36.170
rat walks away with two ladies The rats just
00:43:36.170 --> 00:43:37.949
fucking killed it. Honestly in the whole movie.
00:43:37.949 --> 00:43:46.369
I enjoyed it so much I can't remember I've been
00:43:46.369 --> 00:43:48.250
scrolling through and I just can't find it but
00:43:48.250 --> 00:43:51.710
I swear there's a moment where Rizzo is like
00:43:51.710 --> 00:43:55.579
praying and he says like Never lied to my mom
00:43:55.579 --> 00:43:59.059
and I swear I never brought I never had the plague.
00:43:59.099 --> 00:44:02.139
I never carried the plague. I never carry Not
00:44:02.139 --> 00:44:04.860
once not once sure that was funny cuz it's almost
00:44:04.860 --> 00:44:07.480
like it's well It is the second plague joke that
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.340
a rat uses. Yeah, at least and and this time
00:44:10.340 --> 00:44:12.860
is actually like super relevant applicable. Yeah
00:44:12.860 --> 00:44:18.920
It's fucking hilarious Speaking of mr. Bimby
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:21.940
or mr. Bimble cuz I thought it was mr. Thimble,
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.539
but it's mr. Bimble I thought it was Mr. Bimbo,
00:44:24.579 --> 00:44:26.559
and I was like, what the fuck is this? That's
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:28.579
what I heard, too. Okay, good. I'm glad I'm not
00:44:28.579 --> 00:44:32.579
crazy. It's the accent. Producer and director
00:44:32.579 --> 00:44:34.719
Brian Henson said that Frank Oz was not originally
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:38.320
a fan of Fozzie Bear's Mr. Bimbo, the man Fozzie
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:40.519
says lives in his finger, which I think was his
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:43.099
thumb. Yeah, he's only got three fingers, so.
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.559
Oh, fair. However, by the end of filming, Oz
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:51.239
decided it was one of his favorite jokes. Which
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:54.420
I mean I didn't enjoy every time he seriously
00:44:54.420 --> 00:44:55.980
talked to the man. It was like a horton. Here's
00:44:55.980 --> 00:44:59.199
the here's a who situation Without any who's
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:02.639
Or maybe there were we just didn't get that perspective.
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:05.159
Yeah, right. His finger really was a man. That's
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.039
the next Muppet movie That's perfect. Mr. Bimble.
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:10.820
Mr. Bimble the thing about like all these Muppet
00:45:10.820 --> 00:45:13.000
movies is there's so many Storylines that come
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.579
up throughout them that I would watch as a whole
00:45:15.579 --> 00:45:18.809
fucking movie like every time Yeah, I'm really
00:45:18.809 --> 00:45:21.929
on it with the rats and the crews Especially
00:45:21.929 --> 00:45:24.949
when cabin fever cabin fever is such a unique
00:45:24.949 --> 00:45:27.809
song for them like it starts out so wild with
00:45:27.809 --> 00:45:30.130
even just what they do with the camera zooming
00:45:30.130 --> 00:45:32.690
in on people's faces and just like Making it
00:45:32.690 --> 00:45:34.510
distorted making them seem they're like they're
00:45:34.510 --> 00:45:36.630
going crazy. But by the end, it's it's a full
00:45:36.630 --> 00:45:38.889
boat orchestra They got lights and all sorts
00:45:38.889 --> 00:45:42.530
of shit It's so funny and then they go down to
00:45:42.530 --> 00:45:44.369
the goat and he's like, what was that song that
00:45:44.369 --> 00:45:48.940
was just playing? You know cabin fever I like
00:45:48.940 --> 00:45:51.539
how the sun comes out and the wind picks up and
00:45:51.539 --> 00:45:53.940
they're all like, oh, oh, what the hell is that?
00:45:54.059 --> 00:45:55.800
I feel weird. Someone in the background goes,
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:03.300
what, fools? So funny. Yeah. This marks the first
00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:08.460
major role for Sam Eagle in a Muppet movie. That's
00:46:08.460 --> 00:46:11.599
rad. Yeah. I love Sam Eagle. He's very cool.
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:15.420
He does get duped very easily, though, to get
00:46:15.420 --> 00:46:18.420
off the boat. Tossed the pirate his keys. It
00:46:18.420 --> 00:46:21.039
did not take much. I don't know when he came
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:22.880
up to the island He was like, this is very safe.
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.619
Like he was just testing the boat. Yeah, he has
00:46:25.619 --> 00:46:27.980
no idea what's happening Yeah, except for he
00:46:27.980 --> 00:46:30.420
gets off. He's like, I don't know if that long
00:46:30.420 --> 00:46:34.119
John Silver fellow is very trustworthy Hmm. Yeah,
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:38.800
we figured that out The worst part is He knows
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:43.000
at the end that one of the lifeboats is not Seaworthy
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.559
so did he still figure out did he still go and
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:49.909
test? the rest at some point and then leave the
00:46:49.909 --> 00:46:53.530
one that wasn't ready anyway you put that on
00:46:53.530 --> 00:46:58.469
the left side not the right side i don't know
00:46:58.469 --> 00:47:01.489
i like john so long long john silver i would
00:47:01.489 --> 00:47:03.650
have had a hard time as the child not joining
00:47:03.650 --> 00:47:05.989
the pirate team i probably would have been a
00:47:05.989 --> 00:47:09.030
pirate they seem all right they made a very appealing
00:47:09.030 --> 00:47:13.349
offer they seem to at least practice their choir
00:47:13.659 --> 00:47:16.960
Yes song because at one point in the song long
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.380
Johnny who goes hi you've been practicing And
00:47:20.380 --> 00:47:24.079
um, they do a very good job. It's very choreographed
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:26.079
Yeah, I would join some pirates that do a lot
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:29.739
of singing dance. Yeah Also, like when they're
00:47:29.739 --> 00:47:32.239
torturing gonzo and they spread him out just
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.780
like His arms and legs are so long. He's like
00:47:35.780 --> 00:47:39.429
tickling Kermit from from like 10 feet away when
00:47:39.429 --> 00:47:41.409
they're doing it and he's like, I'm getting taller.
00:47:41.809 --> 00:47:45.349
I could join the NBA. And then they go to stab
00:47:45.349 --> 00:47:47.150
the rat with the poke and he goes, I hate the
00:47:47.150 --> 00:47:52.809
NBA. Yeah, I remember being terrified of that
00:47:52.809 --> 00:47:56.210
scene as a kid. Like his limbs. I mean, yeah,
00:47:56.210 --> 00:47:59.329
it's a good gag, but like. Yeah, there's a lot
00:47:59.329 --> 00:48:02.409
of scary stuff as a kid in this movie. Yeah.
00:48:02.710 --> 00:48:04.489
And he's on the deck and his legs are just like
00:48:04.489 --> 00:48:06.690
his limbs are everywhere. Yeah. All spaghetti.
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.579
I like a tall Gonzo. I think he's fun. That is
00:48:10.579 --> 00:48:18.260
fun. I like when Arrow is describing Kermit and
00:48:18.260 --> 00:48:20.300
Gonzo at one point is like, he's got demons?
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:25.539
Cool. Yeah, everything they said that was like
00:48:25.539 --> 00:48:27.599
slightly unhinged, Gonzo was like, oh, that's
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.239
really cool. I forget there was another thing.
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.690
Damn it. But I don't know what it is. Oh, we
00:48:33.690 --> 00:48:35.889
all laughed at that one and said yeah. Oh cool.
00:48:36.530 --> 00:48:38.630
Yeah, dead tom is they do they're doing the roll
00:48:38.630 --> 00:48:40.889
call and then there's dead tom and he goes aye
00:48:40.889 --> 00:48:45.449
and then he goes cool. Yeah. I don't know if
00:48:45.449 --> 00:48:46.610
that's exactly what you're thinking of but that
00:48:46.610 --> 00:48:51.289
was one of the first ones. I think it is. I really
00:48:51.289 --> 00:48:54.670
liked in the inn they have to go do the dishes
00:48:54.670 --> 00:48:57.269
and it's like I'll wash, I'll dry, I'll break.
00:48:58.050 --> 00:49:02.159
Yeah. Which we didn't see any dishes break. So
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.820
they never got that far The tavern we was long
00:49:05.820 --> 00:49:08.079
pretty quick that guy goes to bed and he comes
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:11.460
right back down Shouting about how he's got the
00:49:11.460 --> 00:49:14.539
terrors and he's just waving his sword away around
00:49:14.539 --> 00:49:17.760
smashing shit Demanding he needs rum, you know
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:20.059
to black these out and I will give you a little
00:49:20.059 --> 00:49:23.679
one And that's the first time you hear the innkeeper
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.000
go don't give him any more rum. How does she
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.000
do that? That was a line that I wrote down from
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.619
Bones there. I've got the horrors, lads, I need
00:49:32.619 --> 00:49:38.659
rum! Which I understand, I've been there. Yeah,
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:42.019
yeah. I wrote down though I didn't really need
00:49:42.019 --> 00:49:44.099
to because it's probably one of the most famous
00:49:44.099 --> 00:49:47.119
lines from this movie when he's like i'm not
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.300
jimmy jim jim jim jimmy jim jim he's jimmy jim
00:49:50.300 --> 00:49:53.400
jim so good yeah there's like a whole 30 seconds
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:56.179
of that i actually uh on a work call the other
00:49:56.179 --> 00:49:58.500
day it was me and a guy i work with named jim
00:49:58.500 --> 00:50:00.179
and i was like jim i gotta tell you every time
00:50:00.179 --> 00:50:02.460
i log on i just want to say jimmy jim jim jim
00:50:02.460 --> 00:50:04.639
jim jim jim he's like i don't get that because
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.780
he's quite a bit older than me and i was like
00:50:06.780 --> 00:50:09.409
listen You gotta watch Muppet Treasure Island
00:50:09.409 --> 00:50:10.849
and then I had a call with him straight up two
00:50:10.849 --> 00:50:13.429
days later and I got on I said Jimmy Jim Jim
00:50:13.429 --> 00:50:15.630
Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim and he goes I get that reference
00:50:15.630 --> 00:50:17.369
now. I was like did you fucking watch it? And
00:50:17.369 --> 00:50:20.650
he did. That's amazing. I wish you responded
00:50:20.650 --> 00:50:24.309
with I'm not Jimmy Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim
00:50:24.309 --> 00:50:30.809
Jim Jim I just I love the tavern scene so much
00:50:30.809 --> 00:50:35.769
No cannon involved but Rizzo and Gonzo still
00:50:35.769 --> 00:50:40.780
get blown through blown out of the inn and Gonzo
00:50:40.780 --> 00:50:44.219
goes wow what an exit right through a brick wall
00:50:44.219 --> 00:50:47.179
and it's just like yeah he's not in a cannon
00:50:47.179 --> 00:50:50.039
but he still gets blown away and up into the
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.119
sky and comes crashing down which is fantastic
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.539
for his character this movie really reinforced
00:50:54.539 --> 00:50:58.039
the idea that he loves physical abuse yeah like
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:02.480
possibly it's a kink mm -hmm especially the stretch
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.400
rack he is like way too into that stretch rack
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.409
yeah I think a little bit of voyeurism. He seemed
00:51:08.409 --> 00:51:09.909
pretty stoked. Everyone was watching him get
00:51:09.909 --> 00:51:14.030
stretched out. He's an alien. And his best friend
00:51:14.030 --> 00:51:19.369
is a rat. Yeah. Zero Pepe. No Pepe. Strange,
00:51:19.409 --> 00:51:22.389
different kind of crustacean from Skye. So I
00:51:22.389 --> 00:51:23.610
don't know if they were like, you know what,
00:51:23.610 --> 00:51:26.030
we need a better crustacean after this because
00:51:26.030 --> 00:51:30.829
I think Pepe is a newer addition to the Muppets.
00:51:31.110 --> 00:51:32.869
I was wondering if this was like a first try
00:51:32.869 --> 00:51:34.710
at it and they were like, they need something
00:51:34.710 --> 00:51:36.920
else, a little more. I don't think this movie
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:40.739
would have needed Pepe. In like his current form,
00:51:40.739 --> 00:51:44.719
I think it was pretty perfect without it. So
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:47.940
I'm glad he wasn't in it, actually, as even as
00:51:47.940 --> 00:51:51.599
he's one of my favorites. Another great line
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:55.039
is after the pirates take the ship over that
00:51:55.039 --> 00:52:01.179
they leave Beaker, Bunsen and Fozzie at to protect
00:52:01.179 --> 00:52:02.960
and they do a terrible job and they get tied
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.400
up. Bunsy goes, in fortuitous, our guns weren't
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:12.039
loaded. And Fozzy goes, yeah, we might've shot
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.380
somebody. And you're like, God, he's so innocent
00:52:14.380 --> 00:52:20.760
all the time. It's a really fun character. The
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.420
guy that's in charge in funding this is, I mean,
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:25.380
they just really stick to the fact like this
00:52:25.380 --> 00:52:28.760
guy is an idiot, but everything he says lands
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:34.289
pretty hard. Yeah, he was really fun. The outfits
00:52:34.289 --> 00:52:37.309
were amazing I like when they have the first
00:52:37.309 --> 00:52:39.489
reveal of Tim Curry when he's in his full pirate
00:52:39.489 --> 00:52:41.750
get -up with the hat the jacket and you see Jim
00:52:41.750 --> 00:52:45.989
Hawkins is like, oh Shit, this makes much more
00:52:45.989 --> 00:52:48.789
sense. Yeah should have saw this coming his pirate
00:52:48.789 --> 00:52:52.409
outfit is fucking sick Mmm, even as the cook.
00:52:52.409 --> 00:52:56.039
I think he looks really yeah. Yeah This is the
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:58.239
second time that Tim Curry has played a pirate
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.059
captain. He voiced Captain Hook on Peter Pan
00:53:01.059 --> 00:53:04.739
and the Pirates in 1990. I don't know what that
00:53:04.739 --> 00:53:09.500
is. I think it's a movie. I was gonna say Disney
00:53:09.500 --> 00:53:12.539
movie, but probably not if it's not a cartoon.
00:53:14.179 --> 00:53:17.619
Oh, it was a TV series, Peter Pan and the Pirates,
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:26.139
1990 to 1991. Oh, not great. Oh, the animation
00:53:26.139 --> 00:53:30.199
is pretty rough. I don't think I need to figure
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.019
it out. Well, I am just so curious what studio
00:53:32.019 --> 00:53:36.360
would do this. Who did this? Oh, yeah. Wow. He's
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:40.760
in. What? So it's one year, 59 episodes Tim Curry
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:44.340
is in. Wow. Sheesh. That's more episodes than
00:53:44.340 --> 00:53:47.340
weeks. And they're 30 minute long episodes. That's
00:53:47.340 --> 00:53:55.730
wild. Wow. So, you know, almost 30 hours. That's
00:53:55.730 --> 00:54:01.949
nuts Come on, where's the studio? Oh Fox Children's
00:54:01.949 --> 00:54:05.309
Productions Southern Star Productions TMS Entertainment
00:54:05.309 --> 00:54:11.670
I Like how they got a Disney jab yeah in there
00:54:11.670 --> 00:54:14.449
Somehow I don't know if you know with Disney
00:54:14.449 --> 00:54:18.300
being attached to this film well So Walt Disney
00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:20.440
Pictures had the option to greenlight another
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:22.159
Muppet movie after this one But the Jim Henson
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.179
company announced a co -production deal with
00:54:24.179 --> 00:54:26.619
Sony Pictures shortly before the film opened
00:54:26.619 --> 00:54:29.599
Disney didn't make another Muppet feature film
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:32.860
until the Muppets in 2011 and by then they owned
00:54:32.860 --> 00:54:35.400
all the rights to the Muppets characters Yeah,
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:40.380
150 million dollar deal for the Muppets Seems
00:54:40.380 --> 00:54:45.010
kind of low. Yeah, it does 150 million. I mean
00:54:45.010 --> 00:54:50.329
they spent 24 just on this one film. Yeah That's
00:54:50.329 --> 00:54:53.309
well, that's what six potentially six movies
00:54:53.309 --> 00:54:54.610
they did so much more than that so much more
00:54:54.610 --> 00:54:59.670
content that seems very under sold Yeah, who
00:54:59.670 --> 00:55:02.150
knows maybe maybe the Henson estate needed the
00:55:02.150 --> 00:55:06.130
money or something It's it's it is pretty you
00:55:06.130 --> 00:55:10.329
know underwhelming numbers when you think about
00:55:10.329 --> 00:55:14.719
Star Wars being sold for Four billion dollars
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:18.460
Knowing that star wars is you know, arguably
00:55:18.460 --> 00:55:22.280
a much bigger ip obviously, but yeah, but they're
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:27.380
sold around the same time No, no, no the prequels
00:55:27.380 --> 00:55:30.480
weren't them. Never mind. No, it was uh after
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.300
the 2010s right Because star wars only has been
00:55:34.300 --> 00:55:38.760
doing it since episode seven Disney has only
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:45.340
been doing star wars since episode seven Do you
00:55:45.340 --> 00:55:48.300
know what also came out around the time of this
00:55:48.300 --> 00:55:52.980
movie in 1996? The Muppets Treasure Island video
00:55:52.980 --> 00:55:57.300
game. I did see that Listed I I'm curious as
00:55:57.300 --> 00:56:00.119
to what it is or what it looks like It's played
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.500
by Jim Hawkins from a first -person view as he
00:56:02.500 --> 00:56:04.719
finds the map and you go to four places first
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.940
at the Benbow Inn the town port town Bristol
00:56:07.940 --> 00:56:11.780
the Hispaniola ship and then on Treasure Island
00:56:11.780 --> 00:56:16.460
Hmm, it looks More like maybe a click and search
00:56:16.460 --> 00:56:20.480
type game than anything else. Hmm. Oh That's
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.059
interesting. It's got Tim Curry in it Bill Connolly.
00:56:23.059 --> 00:56:25.780
It's got a lot of the same Voice actors that
00:56:25.780 --> 00:56:31.780
are in the movie and it's a 7 .1 That's really
00:56:31.780 --> 00:56:35.780
like PlayStation 2 or something PC It's probably
00:56:35.780 --> 00:56:40.239
a click and search That's rad They do tell me
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:43.519
the entire plot of the game, which I think is
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:47.590
a shame Is it about finding a treasure map maybe
00:56:47.590 --> 00:56:50.110
going and getting a ship? Using that ship to
00:56:50.110 --> 00:56:52.230
cross that ocean and then landing on an island
00:56:52.230 --> 00:56:56.250
to try to discover treasure And then along the
00:56:56.250 --> 00:56:58.969
way having a mutiny happen on the boat that you're
00:56:58.969 --> 00:57:08.329
on and then running into a pig on a no, it's
00:57:08.329 --> 00:57:10.610
completely different No, it does seem pretty
00:57:10.610 --> 00:57:20.139
close to what we just watched That's all my notes
00:57:20.139 --> 00:57:25.119
I have a couple more delicious dialogues, but
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:30.500
I Only took six notes overall. I noticed nobody
00:57:30.500 --> 00:57:32.920
was really writing too much I was just enjoying
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:35.559
the movie as I always have but I had some delicious
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:41.480
dialogues. I haven't said yet either One of them
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:45.650
by Kermit When miss piggy's like like and you
00:57:45.650 --> 00:57:47.550
left me at the altar and he's like I got cold
00:57:47.550 --> 00:57:50.030
feet and she said you're a frog You're supposed
00:57:50.030 --> 00:57:54.869
to have cold feet That was a good one Kermit
00:57:54.869 --> 00:57:57.429
had another line for me where he was sword fighting
00:57:57.429 --> 00:58:01.010
with long John and he's like not bad for an amphibian
00:58:01.010 --> 00:58:06.429
I liked when they first got the money to get
00:58:06.429 --> 00:58:10.860
the ship and Jim said you'd really do that And
00:58:10.860 --> 00:58:13.480
Fawzi says, of course, what else are half -wit
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:21.699
sons for? Love it. Or when they were singing
00:58:21.699 --> 00:58:23.440
on the boat and they were cleaning it at the
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.420
very beginning, Long John Silver's like being
00:58:26.420 --> 00:58:31.039
hoisted up. And I think Sam Eagle says, Long
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:33.340
John Silver, let's not get sloppy just because
00:58:33.340 --> 00:58:38.230
we're singing. Yeah. I loved it. They look like
00:58:38.230 --> 00:58:39.889
they were having such a good time at that point
00:58:39.889 --> 00:58:43.230
in the movie. I know. I really enjoy every single
00:58:43.230 --> 00:58:44.909
song and for some reason I can't think of like
00:58:44.909 --> 00:58:47.829
half of them at the moment after just watching
00:58:47.829 --> 00:58:51.110
the movie. Yeah I don't remember what the song
00:58:51.110 --> 00:58:53.110
was when they were cleaning up the ship and doing
00:58:53.110 --> 00:59:00.840
that kind of stuff. Me either. Long John Silver
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:03.059
also while he was rowing away in the rowboat
00:59:03.059 --> 00:59:06.699
said I've got a terrible fear of hanging Yeah,
00:59:06.900 --> 00:59:10.400
naturally man. I Think everyone has that fear.
00:59:10.659 --> 00:59:16.340
Yeah. Yeah, we'd like to not Well, then my last
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delicious dialogue was Statler and Ward Waldorf
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at the end we saved the pig and the frog if only
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we could have saved this movie Yeah They were
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pretty great as figureheads on the ship. They
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are. And going back to this being my first Muppet
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movie, that's how I always picture them at first,
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too. They're always the figureheads. I agree.
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I think of them the same way. Yeah. I'm always
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surprised when they have bodies. Oh, yeah. They
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are like people in other ones. Yeah. Like Grandmother
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Willow type characters. Yeah. Living wood. They
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can't move. Yeah. Because they're also the door
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knockers, aren't they, in Christmas Carol? Oh,
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yeah, you're right. Yeah I'm used to them without
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bodies. I guess. Yeah, I like their other quote
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take a cruise You said see the world you said
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now here we are stuck on the front of the stupid
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ship Well, it could be worse. We could be stuck
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in the audience Yeah, that's good quotes on that
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did we have any recasts zero I have two I had
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two as well Mine were like less recast and more
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if it was real life There was only two Clueless
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the goat David Spade Okay Yeah Mr. Arrow would
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be the guy that plays Captain Norrington and
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Pirates of the Caribbean. Oh I can see it. Yeah,
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that's all I had I had mrs. Blyverage the innkeeper.
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Mm -hmm Helena Bonham Carter. Nice. Yep. That
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is a good one. I felt like it was a really easy
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grab, but it just was sticking out at me. And
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then I put for the voice of Fozzie Bear, Danny
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DeVito. Just thought that would be really fun.
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What you do is you make a secondary edition with
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Danny DeVito as the voice of Mr. Bimble and like
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it's just not the theatrical version. The extended
01:01:18.619 --> 01:01:21.280
release has Danny DeVito speaking back as the
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thumb. Awesome. For Billy Bones, the guy with
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the map in the beginning, Christopher Walken.
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Oh, okay. I feel like that's a good one. And
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then my landlady, which you had Helena Bowman
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Carter, I did Kristen Wiig. Okay. Nice. With
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a fat suit on her. Yeah. I feel like that'd be
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fun. Because she's unhinged too. Yes. Nice. I
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had nobody. I enjoyed everybody. There's not
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really a lot of recasts you can do if you stick
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to the people Yeah, you can't Tim Curry's there.
01:01:57.099 --> 01:01:59.599
He's not gonna go anywhere. No, he would not
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be replaced That's gonna start going through
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the Pirates and I was like they're not Yeah,
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:06.639
they're you know, they're just really backup
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:09.280
singers more than anything else Yeah, I like
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:12.619
when black eyed Pete does his Marlon Brando impression.
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:21.710
I could have been a contender I loved, and I
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forgot about it, the scene where Kermit and Rizzo
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and Gonzo go to sleep on the beach, and then
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his eyes open up, and then there's more eyes.
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And just like how they did the glowing eye scene,
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I really loved that effect. That was an absolute
01:02:38.329 --> 01:02:40.949
blast. So brilliant. And then you were mentioning
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the eye things with Kermit's eyes bugging out.
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There's a scene in the kitchen, I think, where
01:02:46.489 --> 01:02:50.670
someone mentions treasure, and then... Gonzo's
01:02:50.670 --> 01:02:53.989
eyes turn to money. And then Rizzo talks about
01:02:53.989 --> 01:02:56.050
how they'll just die and his eyes are little
01:02:56.050 --> 01:02:58.630
X's. That was really cool. The things they do
01:02:58.630 --> 01:03:03.530
with the eyes are a lot of fun. Like when Long
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John Silver is introducing himself as the cook
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and Rizzo's already dove head first into a chicken.
01:03:08.730 --> 01:03:10.829
And then within minutes he's just laying there
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and his stomach's huge. He is a rat. He is a
01:03:15.010 --> 01:03:18.510
rat. And in the very opening song, he says he
01:03:18.510 --> 01:03:20.489
wants to go somewhere with 10 square meals a
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day. Completely food focused. Now I know I got
01:03:27.309 --> 01:03:31.670
very little left to say. Me too. Should we get
01:03:31.670 --> 01:03:35.050
into it? Sure. All right. Rebecca, why don't
01:03:35.050 --> 01:03:38.250
you kick us off? Sure. Mine is short and to the
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point. Yet another brilliant Muppets movie and
01:03:41.550 --> 01:03:43.929
another excellent classic literature adaptation.
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This is the OG Muppets movie for me. 10 out of
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10 black spots. Ooh. All right, Tim, what do
01:03:53.489 --> 01:03:56.050
you got to say for yourself? I'm glad that we
01:03:56.050 --> 01:03:59.269
watched this movie. It has been over two decades
01:03:59.269 --> 01:04:02.349
since I've seen it. Tim Curry's performance is
01:04:02.349 --> 01:04:05.329
great and he has a powerful singing voice. There
01:04:05.329 --> 01:04:07.210
were a lot of parts that I forgot about, the
01:04:07.210 --> 01:04:10.480
songs being a large. amount of that, so it was
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:13.360
great to hear them again. I forgot how much I
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:17.400
liked the Cabin Fever song. What a hoot! It was
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:19.619
different watching this as an adult knowing that
01:04:19.619 --> 01:04:22.659
it's based on a book. I was wondering which parts
01:04:22.659 --> 01:04:25.019
they stayed true to the book and what they took
01:04:25.019 --> 01:04:27.519
some creative freedom with. I enjoyed the re
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.159
-watch, but this may be one that I leave alone
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.219
for a little while. It is really fun, but there
01:04:32.219 --> 01:04:34.300
were parts that seemed to slow down the pacing.
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:39.670
8 out of 10 unsafe lifeboats. Nice. Alright.
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A real treasure of a childhood movie that holds
01:04:44.789 --> 01:04:48.230
up with every watch. This Muppet -infused literary
01:04:48.230 --> 01:04:50.849
retelling of a classic adventure novel is everything
01:04:50.849 --> 01:04:54.250
you want and more. Every song performance stands
01:04:54.250 --> 01:04:57.210
out in a unique way, and the Muppets were really
01:04:57.210 --> 01:05:00.210
great in wigs and period dress. Kermit's chest
01:05:00.210 --> 01:05:02.769
tattoo of a pinup Miss Piggy was really badass,
01:05:03.010 --> 01:05:05.980
and he made a great captain. Of course, Tim Curry
01:05:05.980 --> 01:05:08.500
is the best Long John Silver in cinema, hands
01:05:08.500 --> 01:05:11.519
down. He's intimidating, and also you want him
01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:15.119
to adopt you, which is spot on. Also, Fozzy as
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.079
the dim -witted son of the Squire gave me so
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.320
many chuckles. Has always been my favorite Muppet
01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:22.659
movie, will always be my favorite Muppet movie.
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Ten out of ten guys that live in your index finger.
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Hey! All right, I guess I'll round us out here.
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There's very little for me to say about this
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:35.199
movie that I have not already said. This is my
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:37.239
favorite Muppet movie, and it's a movie that
01:05:37.239 --> 01:05:39.519
has made me yearn for adventure for 30 years
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:42.440
now. I think the characters, the scenery, and
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:46.500
the songs are all perfect. I adore and I love
01:05:46.500 --> 01:05:49.179
this movie. It's easily in my top five of all
01:05:49.179 --> 01:05:53.639
time. 11 out of 10 rats going on a cruise. Whoa.
01:05:55.079 --> 01:05:59.750
39 out of 40. Yep. All right. Anna, what are
01:05:59.750 --> 01:06:03.730
we watching next time? Well, next time, I'm not
01:06:03.730 --> 01:06:08.809
picking the movie. So mystery movie, guesser,
01:06:08.949 --> 01:06:11.210
picker, next time? Yeah, it's going to be a complete
01:06:11.210 --> 01:06:14.010
mystery to all of us except for Meryl. All right.
01:06:14.170 --> 01:06:18.070
Cool. Awesome. Excited to have her on. Yeah,
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that'll be fun. I can't wait. And I'm very glad
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we got to watch another Muppet movie. For the
01:06:27.050 --> 01:06:28.750
audience that we recorded two episodes in one
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day. So we watched a lot of Muppets today I love
01:06:34.030 --> 01:06:36.889
the Muppets to death and I'm very glad that all
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of you are here with us to watch one of my very
01:06:39.690 --> 01:06:43.829
favorite movies of all time With that being said,
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that's the end of this episode. Thank you again
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