00:00:07.104 --> 00:00:09.833
Welcome to No Magic Bullet podcast series.
00:00:11.214 --> 00:00:14.394
What's in your toolbox is a monthly podcast on mental health.
00:00:15.294 --> 00:00:21.294
I'm your host, Bobby k comedian, mental health advocate, and executive producer of the documentary.
00:00:21.533 --> 00:00:24.234
No Magic Bullet, what's in your toolbox?
00:00:24.443 --> 00:00:26.393
An honest Discussion on Mental Health.
00:00:26.934 --> 00:00:31.853
I am 70 years young, suffer from Tourette syndrome and love doing these podcasts.
00:00:32.064 --> 00:00:33.654
That always reminds me.
00:00:34.113 --> 00:00:36.033
To practice what I preach.
00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:39.500
Hello everybody.
00:00:39.500 --> 00:00:47.539
Welcome to episode three, season five of What's In Your Toolbox.
00:00:51.229 --> 00:00:54.795
My guest, when I'm in her.
00:00:55.655 --> 00:00:57.634
Treatment room on her wall.
00:00:58.475 --> 00:01:03.994
It talks, she's got so many numbers or letters.
00:01:03.994 --> 00:01:13.474
She's A-D-O-M-P-D-S-C-O-R-M-T, and we're gonna find a little bit what that means, but.
00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:21.209
We call this episode Good Vibrations'cause you'll find out why I wanted to call it healing hands or Magic Hands.
00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:23.519
But one of my previous guests was Dr.
00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:37.200
Adrian Grace and he was a chiropractor and he was actually Kaley's father's teacher'cause he started the chiropractic college and in his family he has 1, 2, 3.
00:01:37.745 --> 00:01:44.814
Chiropractors, and I think you'll find out from Kaleigh that she comes from a family of healing hands.
00:01:45.114 --> 00:01:48.625
So we didn't call it magic hands, we called it good vibrations.
00:01:48.954 --> 00:02:01.765
But Kaleigh is on my advisory panel for no magic bullet because we try to have people that have industry expertise in providing.
00:02:02.769 --> 00:02:13.789
I'm gonna say holistic or non-traditional kind of therapy to augment traditional medical therapy, which today is really just pharmaceuticals.
00:02:14.539 --> 00:02:27.180
We did have, it was the first episode in January, Julie Mitchell, who owned Beam Light Therapy, which was in Thornberry, and it was an alternative therapy for enhancing mood.
00:02:27.539 --> 00:02:29.310
And you'll find out that Ka.
00:02:30.914 --> 00:02:32.594
Is an osteopath.
00:02:32.594 --> 00:02:55.784
My osteopath, before that, she was my registered massage therapist or my RMT and so without a, do I, I'm here in world Headquarters, no magic Bullet, Eugenia, Ontario, and Kaylee is at her home in Collingwood, and this is our second YouTube.
00:02:56.909 --> 00:02:57.539
Podcast.
00:02:57.539 --> 00:03:06.930
So you're gonna see her at her home, I believe, and she, I'm not allowed to say this, but she's looks beautiful every time I see her.
00:03:07.710 --> 00:03:14.909
So without ado, as I always say, I'm gonna introduce you to Kaylee Stackhouse.
00:03:14.909 --> 00:03:16.254
Hey girl.
00:03:18.060 --> 00:03:18.930
Hi Bob.
00:03:18.930 --> 00:03:20.219
Thanks so much for having me
00:03:20.305 --> 00:03:21.354
It's my pleasure.
00:03:21.354 --> 00:03:27.854
Listen, it took a little while'cause you've never done a podcast before, but this is just like us being in your treatment room.
00:03:28.155 --> 00:03:33.104
It's just a 30 minute conversation and I know everybody is very, will be very excited.
00:03:33.384 --> 00:03:38.335
I don't even know if everybody knows what an osteopath is.
00:03:41.935 --> 00:03:44.335
I think there's a good chance that they might not.
00:03:44.335 --> 00:03:46.405
I didn't at the beginning either.
00:03:46.675 --> 00:03:53.044
Osteopathic manual practitioners, which is what I am, are we're trained manual therapists.
00:03:53.389 --> 00:04:00.830
We look at the whole body and basically we're trying to figure out how to bring people's bodies back into balance.
00:04:02.250 --> 00:04:13.629
So we look at the muscular system, we look at nervous system, the spine, and the different layers of the person to help them, come back into, center.
00:04:13.629 --> 00:04:18.009
Whether that's like center of gravity, sometimes it's more of an emotional center.
00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:25.529
But really we are manual practitioners that help people like you and me live, optimal
00:04:25.829 --> 00:04:26.339
Okay.
00:04:26.339 --> 00:04:29.699
So that's a pretty good summary of what an osteopath is.
00:04:29.699 --> 00:04:31.050
And I do believe you're right.
00:04:31.230 --> 00:04:36.000
I don't think a lot of people know, although when I tell them I have an osteopath, they said, give me your phone number.
00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:36.779
We need her.
00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.660
So how do we know each other?
00:04:39.660 --> 00:04:42.990
I'll start off, I needed a chiropractor.
00:04:43.050 --> 00:04:48.720
I had a friend named Steve Officer who said that he has a great chiropractor.
00:04:48.769 --> 00:04:52.259
Jeff Stackhouse which happens to be your father.
00:04:52.509 --> 00:04:59.350
Your mother was in the office and there you were as a registered massage therapist, which I went to.
00:04:59.589 --> 00:05:01.769
And how long ago do you think that was?
00:05:03.425 --> 00:05:03.935
Oh gosh.
00:05:03.935 --> 00:05:05.884
If I had to guess that would be maybe
00:05:06.089 --> 00:05:09.779
So 10 years ago, you have been my.
00:05:10.459 --> 00:05:14.360
Therapist, so that's how we know each other.
00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:20.870
Tell me, do you wanna add anything to that about how we know each other or how our relationship has evolved?
00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:24.230
I think you pretty well covered it.
00:05:24.230 --> 00:05:24.379
Yeah.
00:05:24.379 --> 00:05:30.439
You started seeing me as a massage therapist and I've been helping you along your health journey ever since.
00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:32.420
So yeah, I'm excited to be here
00:05:32.509 --> 00:05:38.029
So there you were as an RMT, but you worked very hard.
00:05:38.029 --> 00:05:47.389
You were taking courses and you were studying to be an osteopath and actually I think even wrote your thesis on HRV.
00:05:47.389 --> 00:05:48.110
Is that correct?
00:05:49.714 --> 00:06:01.704
Yeah, vagal tone and which is measured by HRV on people who were socially isolated during the pandemic to see if osteopathy could help them regulate their
00:06:02.004 --> 00:06:03.084
So there you were.
00:06:03.175 --> 00:06:03.654
So that's.
00:06:03.834 --> 00:06:10.375
One day, you're my RMT, the next day, you're my osteopath and it's great.
00:06:10.375 --> 00:06:14.504
And we're gonna talk a little bit about why we call this good vibrations.
00:06:14.504 --> 00:06:18.285
But why did you decide to go from an RMT to an osteopath?
00:06:20.144 --> 00:06:32.845
I would say as much as I loved massage therapy as a profession, I would find myself feeling a little bit frustrated, wondering, why certain areas were always tight and.
00:06:32.894 --> 00:06:36.995
How I could help these people actually get better.
00:06:37.175 --> 00:06:41.495
So I guess it comes just from a deep curiosity.
00:06:41.714 --> 00:06:45.485
And, wanting to understand the human body, the human mind a little bit
00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:49.045
So before we get into good vibrations.
00:06:50.634 --> 00:06:52.884
Your training took for me.
00:06:52.884 --> 00:06:53.665
It took forever.
00:06:53.665 --> 00:06:57.144
Because you were always studying how long.
00:06:57.685 --> 00:07:00.295
Tell me a little bit about your training as an osteopath.
00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:04.000
Yeah, it felt like forever for me too, Bob.
00:07:04.100 --> 00:07:08.480
It was about, I'm gonna say maybe five and a half years.
00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:11.949
There was four years where I was, in school part-time.
00:07:12.944 --> 00:07:18.345
And then about a year and a half where I was doing the research portion of the event.
00:07:18.725 --> 00:07:21.175
So anyway sorry, what
00:07:21.254 --> 00:07:31.165
Just the training, how long it took and how I guess for me it's the next level of take of self care and being able to take care of people.
00:07:33.459 --> 00:07:33.910
Yeah.
00:07:33.910 --> 00:07:36.910
So it's, it really is a process and I think that it is
00:07:36.970 --> 00:07:37.089
I.
00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:48.470
and it takes that long for a reason because when you're going through the training, you're learning about all the different body systems and you're also learning how to hone your palpation, right?
00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:56.040
So that's, I think one of the core pieces of learning osteopathy is how to palpate these different.
00:07:56.285 --> 00:08:00.785
Layers of tissue and also the different layers of the person.
00:08:00.785 --> 00:08:11.175
You start to feel, what is the structure, like the fascia, the bones, the muscle versus, the fluids or sometimes emotions that might show up as, a vibration.
00:08:12.045 --> 00:08:18.845
in the tissue and you, you can get into energy work as well yeah, a bit of a process, but I'm so glad that I did it.
00:08:18.894 --> 00:08:29.375
Certainly wasn't easy, but I feel like it has allowed me to, step into a new phase of being able to help people heal on a deeper level, and it's helped me so much.
00:08:29.375 --> 00:08:31.865
So I'm just excited to share that with my
00:08:31.884 --> 00:08:38.934
listen to me, 10 years we've been together, I've been through a rollercoaster, both physically.
00:08:38.965 --> 00:08:44.095
'cause I have Tourettes and my fa my shoulder twitches a thousand times a day.
00:08:44.375 --> 00:08:49.745
And you have helped me with that, both as an RMT and as an osteopath.
00:08:50.014 --> 00:08:52.774
But then all of a sudden my life took.
00:08:54.095 --> 00:09:05.315
A dive a number of times, and your coaching and counseling and listening to me helped me tremendously.
00:09:05.945 --> 00:09:12.225
But the reason that we call this good vibrations is because, I have a psychiatrist.
00:09:12.225 --> 00:09:15.075
I I have talk therapy with him.
00:09:15.404 --> 00:09:20.085
And in our session, I know that there's a lot of talk therapy.
00:09:20.774 --> 00:09:26.179
In your practice with me at least, do you have a lot of talk therapy with other clients?
00:09:28.529 --> 00:09:45.309
I would say so, and I just I have to be careful to, acknowledge that is, I'm not a mental health professional, but when people come into you with, tension in their body, or they have digestive upsets or nervous system dysregulation, this stuff doesn't come from nowhere.
00:09:45.309 --> 00:09:52.115
We all live very complex lives, and, when people feel safe, all of a sudden they start telling you about.
00:09:52.470 --> 00:09:55.049
What's really going on in their lives.
00:09:55.409 --> 00:10:05.850
And I've started noticing a correlation with the like the Palpatory experience for me as a practitioner and what's going on in their bodies.
00:10:05.850 --> 00:10:08.730
So it leaves a space for them.
00:10:08.835 --> 00:10:16.784
To then, consciously release that and sometimes they aren't aware of it, but just having that space to be able to process what's going on in their lives.
00:10:17.325 --> 00:10:29.684
I'm not there to, give advice or tell them what to do, but it really does provide a space where healing can begin and people can let go of some of those layers and then you see what the body can do with it.
00:10:30.164 --> 00:10:32.115
And I think that's so
00:10:32.210 --> 00:10:41.899
Listen, you've just qualified that you're not a mental health professional, so let's just go right back to me and as am I a patient or a client?
00:10:42.110 --> 00:10:43.309
What am I to you?
00:10:44.870 --> 00:10:45.230
you're a
00:10:45.549 --> 00:10:45.840
Okay.
00:10:45.889 --> 00:10:48.559
me, it's a bit of a gray area.
00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:56.940
When like in RMT Land they call everybody a client and then crossing that to osteopathy.
00:10:57.149 --> 00:11:00.299
Usually they're referred to as patients, so I often will use them
00:11:00.529 --> 00:11:08.475
Okay, so this patient, and since we're talking about lived experience, has been using you.
00:11:08.940 --> 00:11:22.649
As a sounding board to talk about emotions, moods, and just anxieties and challenges.
00:11:23.009 --> 00:11:26.340
And you have been fantastic.
00:11:26.580 --> 00:11:33.115
And one of the reasons that you've been so fantastic is that you practice self care.
00:11:34.434 --> 00:11:48.684
I know that you do fasts and I know that you have worked very hard on your own self-care, and you can then transfer that to your patients because I work very hard on my mental health.
00:11:48.684 --> 00:11:54.534
And the reason for this podcast is to try to let even one person here that they're not alone.
00:11:54.924 --> 00:11:57.475
So we haven't rehearsed this.
00:11:57.654 --> 00:12:02.965
Do you wanna talk a little bit about your belief in self-care and what you do for yourself?
00:12:04.585 --> 00:12:05.335
Sure.
00:12:05.754 --> 00:12:10.705
So I have struggled with anxiety and depression like many people do.
00:12:10.934 --> 00:12:15.735
I was, became aware of that when I was in my teens and I had gone to a doctor.
00:12:16.210 --> 00:12:20.600
All they could offer me was medication and later on talk therapy.
00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.720
And so that's when I started building my toolbox.
00:12:23.779 --> 00:12:24.740
I started running.
00:12:24.740 --> 00:12:32.929
I know you used to run as well, and so that was something that I could do to, expend energy and keep myself on track.
00:12:33.009 --> 00:12:36.605
And movements still a really big part of my toolbox.
00:12:36.970 --> 00:12:38.649
I don't run as much as I used to.
00:12:38.649 --> 00:12:42.490
I weightlift go for hikes in the wood, but I would say that's a really big.
00:12:42.884 --> 00:12:45.679
Part of the healing and grounding.
00:12:46.669 --> 00:12:49.519
I also have a morning practice that I do.
00:12:49.940 --> 00:12:53.299
I meditate, I pray, I stretch, I breathe.
00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:58.340
So it's become a little bit more intuitive and less structured as time has gone on.
00:12:58.340 --> 00:13:03.889
But I find if I spend those moments at the beginning of the day, it really sets me up for success later on.
00:13:04.284 --> 00:13:06.985
Couple other things that I love are music.
00:13:07.375 --> 00:13:12.414
If I'm struggling, sometimes I'll just put my favorite music on and sing or dance.
00:13:12.414 --> 00:13:14.455
I find that to be really powerful.
00:13:14.884 --> 00:13:18.215
And I know you mentioned the fasts, so cleansing.
00:13:18.215 --> 00:13:18.544
Yeah.
00:13:18.544 --> 00:13:19.024
Clearing out.
00:13:19.899 --> 00:13:31.440
Different, toxins and invaders from my body and my organs has been really instrumental in just helping my gut and my nervous system regulate and heal.
00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:34.559
And then the other piece that goes along with that is nutrition.
00:13:34.769 --> 00:13:43.019
So I think that's something that has been slowly building over time, but when you start to realize, you feel better, your brain is clearer.
00:13:43.914 --> 00:13:49.065
When you're eating foods that agree with you it's really motivating to keep it up.
00:13:49.154 --> 00:13:52.335
So I would say those are probably some of the biggest things.
00:13:52.384 --> 00:13:56.044
And I've also, in place of talk therapy, I have really found.
00:13:56.450 --> 00:14:03.230
Energy medicine to be really powerful in helping me release some of my own traumas.
00:14:03.289 --> 00:14:12.440
Sometimes that's, with a body worker and I've also played around with some quantum biofeedback this past year, which has been really interesting as well.
00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:14.870
So I feel like you could do a whole podcast on that, but.
00:14:14.940 --> 00:14:16.019
We probably can.
00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:24.350
So tell me something you I believe that if you're gonna get divorced, find a divorce lawyer that's been divorced.
00:14:24.889 --> 00:14:27.725
I believe that if you're gonna find a, a psychiatrist.
00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:30.139
That's gonna deal with anxiety.
00:14:30.139 --> 00:14:41.840
It's probably better to have somebody that's had anxiety themselves and you, I wish that we could have called this healing hands because somehow you've inherited that from your family.
00:14:42.019 --> 00:14:46.879
You have wonderful healing hands, you have wonderful healing energy.
00:14:47.149 --> 00:14:53.110
And when I go to your, my session, I come out just.
00:14:53.830 --> 00:15:00.669
So positive because it's so calming in your room and it's not you do put on Fleetwood Mac for me.
00:15:00.669 --> 00:15:02.080
'cause you know that I like that.
00:15:04.330 --> 00:15:07.720
But it's not the, it's not the Fleetwood Mac that makes the difference.
00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:17.529
So a little couple of sessions ago you said, let's try something and I was having terrible heel pain.
00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:21.610
And my leg, fascia, whatever it is.
00:15:21.610 --> 00:15:24.639
My whole body's one great big tension ball.
00:15:24.850 --> 00:15:33.340
But you said, let me put my finger on the fascia and if you would you talk yell outat?
00:15:34.210 --> 00:15:38.210
What some of your anxieties is that sort of a correct description of it?
00:15:39.950 --> 00:15:42.289
Yeah, that's, that's certainly part of it.
00:15:42.610 --> 00:15:52.159
When I'm working on areas that have tension, there's, I've noticed that there's a difference between tissue that's just, structurally tight versus.
00:15:52.450 --> 00:15:58.480
Oh, this is holding something emotional and the way that I feel it, it has a vibrational quality to it.
00:15:58.929 --> 00:16:12.480
So one of my mentors and the people who first started helping me navigate that part of my healing journey, she would ask questions about the quality of that sensation for me.
00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:14.250
So basically, I've.
00:16:14.590 --> 00:16:20.639
Adapted that, and I've started doing the same with some of my patients asking, is there an emotion, is there a situation?
00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:25.320
Sometimes for people it shows up as like a color or a shape or a memory.
00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:33.934
And when you start to prompt people through that, sometimes people aren't aware and you don't necessarily have to be, but you do have to connect with that part of your body.
00:16:34.825 --> 00:16:36.774
And intentionally let it go.
00:16:36.774 --> 00:16:47.304
And I have found it to be even more powerful if people are able to connect with some of the things that are maybe causing them an anxiety and verbally release them in the session.
00:16:47.695 --> 00:16:50.004
It's really powerful as you felt.
00:16:50.664 --> 00:16:52.914
Patients can feel their own tissue release.
00:16:52.914 --> 00:16:58.585
So it just is really powerful when you combine those two things together.
00:16:58.929 --> 00:17:01.299
that would be basically mental health.
00:17:01.929 --> 00:17:06.220
Emotion anxiety is mental health.
00:17:06.220 --> 00:17:18.130
So the reason that we're doing this podcast is, and the reason that we do our community chats and our workshops is so people can understand that they can go somewhere else other than.
00:17:19.150 --> 00:17:26.829
A medical doctor or a psychiatrist for pharmaceuticals and use techniques to help them with their anxiety.
00:17:28.059 --> 00:17:29.049
Would you agree with that?
00:17:30.865 --> 00:17:32.059
I would agree with that,
00:17:32.380 --> 00:17:44.619
So that's why we called it good vibrations because as I spoke out what was bothering me, the fascia, the tension in my leg went away.
00:17:48.565 --> 00:17:53.755
And did you feel, you felt the release in your body as it was happening?
00:17:54.115 --> 00:17:54.984
absolutely.
00:17:55.855 --> 00:17:58.765
That's why I said, what are we gonna call this thing?
00:17:58.765 --> 00:18:02.670
And I thought good vibrations was what it's all about.
00:18:03.694 --> 00:18:08.194
But I'm sure I'm not the only person that has had that experience.
00:18:08.569 --> 00:18:25.759
And I think anybody out there that's listening to this can understand if they go to not just an osteopath that has a sign that says I'm an osteopath, but an o an osteopath that practices what she preaches, it would be great for their anxiety.
00:18:25.970 --> 00:18:36.589
And we're not doctors, so I'm not saying reduce, it's gonna replace your pharmaceuticals, but it definitely is a technique right.
00:18:38.700 --> 00:18:45.839
Okay, so what else about mental health do you think?
00:18:45.900 --> 00:18:50.809
Osteopath thickness or whatever you call it.
00:18:50.809 --> 00:18:51.319
Correct me.
00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:52.190
What do you call it?
00:18:53.900 --> 00:19:01.950
What else can osteopathy help you with, with regards to your emotions, to your moods, to your anxieties, to your energy.
00:19:04.335 --> 00:19:04.904
Okay.
00:19:04.904 --> 00:19:06.464
Great question.
00:19:07.994 --> 00:19:15.224
In terms of how osteopathy can help you, because you're looking at the body as an entire unit.
00:19:15.494 --> 00:19:20.894
You're not separating somebody's nervous system, from their organs, from their spine.
00:19:20.894 --> 00:19:25.515
You're really trying to figure out how all of these things can function together.
00:19:25.724 --> 00:19:30.315
So it can be as simple as helping somebody relieve some physical pain.
00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:37.210
That they're in because when you're in physical pain, it can really have a negative effect on your mental state.
00:19:38.230 --> 00:19:47.569
from a mechanical perspective, you can help to, when you think about something like breathing, everybody talks about breathing to regulate your nervous system.
00:19:47.930 --> 00:19:58.789
If you have a rib cage or a diaphragm that's stuck and isn't able to actually breathe properly, you have somebody that is using all these accessory muscles in their neck.
00:19:59.740 --> 00:20:04.299
their pecs and whatnot to help them breathe, creating a lot of unnecessary tension.
00:20:04.299 --> 00:20:07.119
So you can approach it from that perspective.
00:20:07.430 --> 00:20:15.410
And I think one of the most interesting and powerful things is actually being able to balance out the nervous system itself.
00:20:15.410 --> 00:20:22.650
So the techniques that we use are actually or some of them anyway, are actually used on the central nervous system.
00:20:22.650 --> 00:20:23.309
So you work.
00:20:23.650 --> 00:20:31.720
On the brain, the tissues around the brain, the fluid around the brain, and the spinal cord into the pelvis.
00:20:32.609 --> 00:20:45.390
And you're really trying to release some of those strains so that that whole system, your central nervous system, is able to function properly, which then flows out into all the peripheral nerves as well.
00:20:45.779 --> 00:20:49.640
So you may have heard people talk about the autonomic nervous system.
00:20:49.819 --> 00:20:52.039
It's the nervous system that's operating.
00:20:52.059 --> 00:20:54.460
Like when you're sleeping, when you're not thinking about it.
00:20:54.730 --> 00:20:58.210
And this is responsible for our stress response.
00:20:58.210 --> 00:21:02.380
You've got your sympathetic nervous system, which is like fight and flight.
00:21:02.380 --> 00:21:07.539
You have your parasympathetic nervous system, which is, some people refer to it as rest and digest.
00:21:07.910 --> 00:21:15.230
But basically these systems need to be in some kind of harmony in order for things like.
00:21:15.990 --> 00:21:17.519
Digestion to occur.
00:21:17.819 --> 00:21:32.740
Connection, when we're feeling safe and calm and balanced, we're able to, function at our best when we have an overactivated stress system or sympathetic nervous system, which is pretty common in today's busy world.
00:21:32.789 --> 00:21:34.680
It's easy for some of these other.
00:21:35.220 --> 00:21:39.359
Systems that are supposed to be working for us to work against us.
00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:54.690
So I think that has been one of the most interesting things for me to learn about both as a practitioner and as a patient because I absolutely go and go and see my osteopath on a regular basis just to get reset.
00:21:54.690 --> 00:21:59.220
'cause I know that this is an area, I don't wanna say of weakness, but it's just an area that.
00:21:59.650 --> 00:22:04.619
I am always going to be, learning, always gonna be healing, always gonna be rebalancing.
00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:09.140
It helps, bring me into a more balanced or, coherent
00:22:09.420 --> 00:22:10.170
Coherent.
00:22:10.170 --> 00:22:13.289
Now you sound like Joe Dispenza coherence between
00:22:13.299 --> 00:22:14.500
It's the same stuff.
00:22:14.500 --> 00:22:14.740
This
00:22:14.849 --> 00:22:17.339
the stuff between your heart and your breath.
00:22:17.609 --> 00:22:31.920
Now we talk about breath and breath work because I cold plunge and I cold plunge specifically to manage my breath so that it's only cold for about 15 seconds, and then I catch my breath.
00:22:32.430 --> 00:22:39.015
So is osteo, is breathwork part of being an osteopathic lab, being part of a patient of Kaley's?
00:22:41.025 --> 00:22:47.454
It's not specifically, but I would say that breath is a big part of the treatments.
00:22:47.454 --> 00:23:01.345
For some people, we will go through breathing exercises and for other people it's more subtle where I'm, I'll have them breathe during the session and then monitor how the different parts of the respiratory system are moving to make sure that.
00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:05.474
When they leave the clinic that they're able to utilize it
00:23:05.619 --> 00:23:11.599
Now we're gonna have show notes, obviously and in it will be a link to your website.
00:23:12.529 --> 00:23:23.690
And so the idea is if anybody lives in the Collingwood area or Gray County and they wanna get a consultation with you to see if there's a fit.
00:23:24.525 --> 00:23:29.535
They'll be able to go there or else they can probably just look up somebody an osteopath.
00:23:29.535 --> 00:23:30.404
But my view.
00:23:31.275 --> 00:23:33.194
Of things are 80 20.
00:23:33.585 --> 00:23:38.325
There's 80% of doctors that are great and 20% that are lousy.
00:23:38.535 --> 00:23:43.275
There's 80% of psychiatrists that are great, 20% are lousy.
00:23:43.515 --> 00:23:46.904
There's 80% of plumbers that are great, and 20% are lousy.
00:23:47.174 --> 00:23:53.984
So the relationship between the patient and the therapist is key.
00:23:54.555 --> 00:23:55.394
Would you believe?
00:23:55.424 --> 00:23:56.265
Do you believe that?
00:23:57.694 --> 00:23:58.714
Oh, absolutely.
00:23:58.954 --> 00:24:02.404
And I also believe that there is someone for everybody.
00:24:02.404 --> 00:24:08.214
So you know, so if you try going to one practitioner and they're not for you, that's okay.
00:24:08.214 --> 00:24:10.194
You just might not be resonating with them.
00:24:10.855 --> 00:24:12.654
But I would agree 100%.
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.589
a lucky guy that I started off with Dr.
00:24:15.589 --> 00:24:15.920
Jeff.
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:17.240
That's what we call your father.
00:24:17.539 --> 00:24:24.799
And right in the next room was Kaylee Stackhouse, the RMT, who became a osteopath.
00:24:25.069 --> 00:24:38.099
And now we have this great relationship and I just want all my listeners and anybody watching YouTube to appreciate that I've been lucky enough to find, connection.
00:24:38.460 --> 00:24:52.880
So I talk about my vast Bob's amazing support team, of which you're one of them because you're, I hurt my back and you called me from somewhere to say, come on in if you need me.
00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.390
So you are a support system because when I hurt my back.
00:24:57.170 --> 00:24:59.329
I immediately have catastrophic thinking.
00:24:59.329 --> 00:25:06.559
I think I'm never gonna walk again, but I'm sure it's just something from teaching those little brat skiing a couple of times.
00:25:06.859 --> 00:25:08.299
So I have a bass.
00:25:08.569 --> 00:25:14.900
You have a cast kaley's amazing support team.
00:25:15.170 --> 00:25:17.569
So tell me a little bit about your support team.
00:25:19.289 --> 00:25:19.859
Okay.
00:25:19.910 --> 00:25:27.140
I have an amazing husband, will and I, so I'm gonna give him a shout out since he'll probably be listening to this at some point.
00:25:27.569 --> 00:25:29.859
Also I'm really close with my family.
00:25:29.890 --> 00:25:37.119
I have three incredible siblings, so I just feel so, lucky to have them to.
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:41.099
I don't wanna say rely on, but yeah, they're definitely a big part of that.
00:25:41.289 --> 00:25:43.779
I have a dog and she's amazing.
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:57.720
Lots of friends and community and that have been with me through some of the hard times and, friends who've also gone through some of the challenges, whether it's like school or, other pieces of life.
00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:02.170
And so that for sure makes it makes it worthwhile and, and makes it.
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:03.309
Tolerable.
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.670
Have my own healthcare practitioners.
00:26:06.670 --> 00:26:15.400
There's a woman named Erin Smith who she doesn't hold a specific designation, but she's probably one of the most well-trained individuals I know.
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:22.329
And she really helped me when I was starting to, release some of my physical and emotional traumas and peeling back those layers.
00:26:22.329 --> 00:26:23.650
So she was amazing.
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:25.910
And I still see her periodically.
00:26:26.345 --> 00:26:29.075
I also have my own osteopathic practitioner.
00:26:29.454 --> 00:26:34.394
He really helped me to start peeling back a brain injury that I had dealt with years ago.
00:26:34.644 --> 00:26:39.954
So that's been really key in helping me to regulate as a person and as a practitioner.
00:26:40.325 --> 00:26:41.765
And you mentioned Dr.
00:26:41.765 --> 00:26:42.154
Jeff.
00:26:42.184 --> 00:26:42.454
Yeah.
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:46.319
Treat, I get treated by him periodically as well.
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.400
And probably wouldn't be here today without him.
00:26:49.779 --> 00:26:55.490
And also I would say the, maybe one of the newest members of my cast is God.
00:26:55.490 --> 00:27:00.170
I feel like I've, connected faith level, which has been helpful for me anyways.
00:27:00.305 --> 00:27:00.815
Listen
00:27:01.049 --> 00:27:01.740
I would think that.
00:27:02.075 --> 00:27:10.085
it was a leading question'cause I do know that you have a great support system and that you're continually growing it.
00:27:10.355 --> 00:27:13.954
So I'm a, we're like bookends, you're a young person.
00:27:14.434 --> 00:27:17.734
I know you say I'm not that young, but you're a lot younger than I am.
00:27:18.154 --> 00:27:25.894
And I still try to grow my support system because I think that is one of the key things.
00:27:26.535 --> 00:27:28.285
To be able to deal with things.
00:27:28.285 --> 00:27:30.259
So I really appreciate that.
00:27:30.349 --> 00:27:34.400
Even though you charge me, you're part of my support system.
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:53.059
Remember, we're supposed to have levity in this thing, so what advice would you have to a listener or somebody watching this YouTube if they want to explore an osteopath practitioner like you to solve both their physical and emotional issues?
00:27:55.444 --> 00:28:00.005
Gosh, I have so many, but I don't feel like we're, we only have so much time.
00:28:00.244 --> 00:28:03.815
But something that came up for me is just don't be afraid to ask for help.
00:28:03.875 --> 00:28:05.825
None of us can treat ourselves.
00:28:05.825 --> 00:28:06.994
We all need support.
00:28:08.765 --> 00:28:09.815
trust your gut.
00:28:10.654 --> 00:28:16.894
something doesn't feel like it's for you or maybe for you right now, then listen to that voice.
00:28:16.894 --> 00:28:21.105
I feel like that voice has guided me through so many of life's.
00:28:21.494 --> 00:28:23.535
Little twists and turns.
00:28:24.585 --> 00:28:32.184
something else that comes to mind is the fact that, we can't separate our physical health from our mental or spiritual health.
00:28:32.184 --> 00:28:35.394
Like we really are interconnected beings.
00:28:35.444 --> 00:28:36.315
Keep that in mind.
00:28:36.315 --> 00:28:43.825
And when you do something that is, maybe spiritually or mentally nourishing, it has a positive impact on your physical body.
00:28:44.375 --> 00:28:45.545
And vice versa.
00:28:46.454 --> 00:28:57.525
And the last thing I just wanna say is that know we talked a little bit about, coherence, but just like the ripple effect of the work that you do, whether it's with your osteopath or visiting a friend.
00:28:57.525 --> 00:29:00.045
Or for you, Bob, I know you like to bake.
00:29:00.325 --> 00:29:07.494
All these things that you do to raise your own vibration, it does spill out into the world around you.
00:29:07.914 --> 00:29:11.424
And if we feel calm and connected enough that, we can.
00:29:12.099 --> 00:29:16.430
Maybe have a, a smile or a conversation with somebody that we meet out in the world.
00:29:16.430 --> 00:29:22.339
It really does, it makes the world a better place, which might sound cheesy, but I really believe it to be true.
00:29:22.390 --> 00:29:27.730
It's, it feels really good to know that we are part of something that's just bigger than ourselves.
00:29:27.849 --> 00:29:28.630
So I think
00:29:28.730 --> 00:29:32.960
I think that that is so key and we will be having.
00:29:33.785 --> 00:29:45.924
Community chats and workshops in the Simco Gray County area, and I'm hoping that Kaylee will join us as one of the people that you could sit with on a one-to-one basis and talk to her a little bit about it.
00:29:45.924 --> 00:29:50.200
But now, unfortunately, like all things that are good.
00:29:51.684 --> 00:29:55.045
Hours turn into minutes, so our time is up.
00:29:55.494 --> 00:29:58.914
I wanna thank you so much this you've done so fantastic.
00:29:58.914 --> 00:30:02.994
I hope you don't give up being an osteopath and start becoming a podcaster.
00:30:04.825 --> 00:30:08.795
Okay I need you to be an osteopath and everybody.
00:30:09.184 --> 00:30:11.464
So this is Bobby Coven and.
00:30:13.144 --> 00:30:20.045
Signing off saying Thank you so much for listening to this episode of What's In Your Toolbox.
00:30:21.365 --> 00:30:35.130
Okay, listen everybody, isn't that fantastic that we have an osteopath on our podcast and she really explained.
00:30:35.779 --> 00:30:42.289
Very succinctly that the connection between the mind, body and the soul is, is key.
00:30:42.410 --> 00:30:46.430
And I think that if you go to the show notes, you'll find Kaleigh.
00:30:46.430 --> 00:30:55.369
You can talk to her about her practice, she'll give you a consultation and find out if there's a fit and if not, maybe look up osteopath.
00:30:55.450 --> 00:30:58.269
You can Google it and maybe there's one in your area.
00:30:58.930 --> 00:31:07.930
So as I do with all of these podcasts, I finish off reading something that I read in the newspaper and on.
00:31:08.305 --> 00:31:17.424
November the 19th, 2025 in the Global Mail, there was an article about where L Longevity lives.
00:31:17.724 --> 00:31:24.384
And really, this is all about it from my perspective, and I think from a lot of people's perspective, longevity.
00:31:24.384 --> 00:31:29.799
We want to do things that will make us live longer and.
00:31:31.434 --> 00:31:39.295
Quality, not quantity, whether it's the HRV that we talked about, whether it's osteopath, whether it's self-care.
00:31:39.295 --> 00:31:50.244
So this article talked about that the global male was running a se a series called Aging and there was a couple of areas in Canada that the population age as well.
00:31:50.605 --> 00:31:56.884
And one of them from nova Scotia talked about she credits her longevity to one thing above all else.
00:31:57.154 --> 00:32:02.015
I did a lot of walking in my life, so that's key.
00:32:02.384 --> 00:32:07.484
Also, I'm just reading from this your environment.
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:14.160
Whether you are born in a place like Lunenberg or Mo southward, such as Parkville later in life, longevity g.
00:32:14.460 --> 00:32:18.839
Experts say where you live can matter just as much as genetics.
00:32:19.140 --> 00:32:23.519
If you want to live longer, don't try to change your behavior, change your environment.
00:32:23.970 --> 00:32:28.019
So listen, I've changed my environment.
00:32:28.019 --> 00:32:30.065
I'm at World headquarters in Lake Eugenia.
00:32:30.765 --> 00:32:38.384
Calling wood is a good place because you have access to all the green spaces that Kaleigh takes advantage of.
00:32:38.595 --> 00:32:47.744
Early on in our relationship, she was always going camping outside in a tent with fireplaces.
00:32:47.954 --> 00:32:52.454
So I don't know if that's a tool or not, but we've just made it poof.
00:32:52.724 --> 00:32:53.595
It's a tool.
00:32:54.224 --> 00:32:59.474
So listen, in conclusion, this is.
00:33:00.105 --> 00:33:01.484
About self-care.
00:33:03.164 --> 00:33:10.575
It's about if you had a car, you have to change the oil in order to keep it running on a regular basis.
00:33:10.964 --> 00:33:13.694
And if you have a body, you have to keep it.
00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:22.289
Tuned and somebody like Kaleigh is well qualified because she tunes her own body and therefore can tune yours.
00:33:22.710 --> 00:33:26.700
So this is gonna be on YouTube and there will be a link in the show notes.
00:33:26.700 --> 00:33:29.099
So you can see both myself and Kaleigh.
00:33:29.670 --> 00:33:35.299
'cause we're trying to increase awareness and YouTube is, is one of the ways to do that.
00:33:35.960 --> 00:34:03.319
So our next episode is called Drive to Thrive, and it's, young lady who's an Uber driver in San Francisco who met somebody that knows me, and in their short five minute ride they connected us and said, you two have to talk a little bit about tools in your toolbox, or Her name is Eda Zella.
00:34:04.654 --> 00:34:05.795
I hope I got that right.
00:34:06.035 --> 00:34:09.485
It's the guy at the airport that announces, please come up here with your passport.
00:34:09.485 --> 00:34:14.074
I could never have that job'cause I get everybody's names wrong, so I'm gonna call her Speedy.
00:34:14.074 --> 00:34:22.804
So please subscribe below and look forward to the next episode of What's in Your Toolbox
00:34:32.014 --> 00:34:34.175
Thank you for listening to No Magic Bullet.
00:34:34.505 --> 00:34:35.855
What's in your toolbox?
00:34:36.094 --> 00:34:40.025
I am not a doctor, but have lived experience in dealing with.
00:34:40.264 --> 00:34:42.304
The many challenges of mental health.
00:34:43.114 --> 00:34:52.835
If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe and share with others who will benefit from learning about tools they can use to deal with their own mental health challenges.
00:34:53.465 --> 00:34:59.315
If we can help just one person, all this effort to bring this podcast to you is worth it.
00:35:14.021 --> 00:35:14.260
Box.