WEBVTT
1
00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:08.839
Hello, and welcome to Montecito after Sunset. My name is
2
00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:12.679
Christy and Montecito is one of my favorite new shows.
3
00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:15.039
It is a audio soap opera.
4
00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:17.519
If you haven't listened yet, go back and check out
5
00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:20.039
episodes one, two, and three are all up.
6
00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:22.640
On YouTube and anywhere you get podcasts.
7
00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:27.120
Now I have the incredible pleasure of breaking down episode three.
8
00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:31.480
Please welcome executive story editor Andrew Pemberton Fowler.
9
00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:34.799
Hi Andrew, Hi Christy, you get to see you again,
10
00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:36.520
you too, Thank you.
11
00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:40.000
And we also have creator and executive producer of Montecito
12
00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:42.359
joining us now, Grant Rutterer.
13
00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:44.640
Hey, Grant, Hi Christy, thanks for joining this.
14
00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:48.799
I am so excited to get behind the scenes a
15
00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.280
little bit of this with you guys, because I am
16
00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:55.240
so engrossed in this show, the characters.
17
00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:55.520
The chaos.
18
00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.000
It's a new dawn, it's a new day. We're at
19
00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:00.799
the hospital, and a lot of questions get answered just
20
00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:03.479
in those first few seconds of the show. This must
21
00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:05.439
have been kind of exciting to get to this point
22
00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:08.239
in the writing process because it kind of opens up
23
00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.319
to a new day in new stories and new details
24
00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:12.200
about our characters.
25
00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:12.439
Right.
26
00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:15.959
Yeah, that that first scene in the hospital you'll hear
27
00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:18.680
some chords at the beginning the first for Kai Colum,
28
00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:21.640
the Montecito chords, and they come in and that kind
29
00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:23.239
of signifies that it's a new day.
30
00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:23.760
Now.
31
00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.640
In other episodes, you'll hear a version of the music
32
00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:28.879
that was in the final scene, and then that will
33
00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:30.920
say that this is an extension of where we left
34
00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.840
off on the previous episode. But like you said, new day,
35
00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.640
everything is reset. You know, it's always a beautiful day
36
00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:40.920
in Montecito. And we learn that Mina is in the
37
00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.760
hospital and nobody would really check themselves into the er
38
00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.959
after getting tased. You usually can bounce back quite quickly,
39
00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:50.840
but we didn't obviously say that, but it just shows
40
00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:53.760
if you're paying attention that Mina is indeed a drama queen.
41
00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:54.719
She is.
42
00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:59.599
She's also we know, not the maybe best wife, right,
43
00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:03.840
and we also get a little bit more detail about
44
00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:06.159
her relationship her marriage.
45
00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.439
Deacon is there.
46
00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.960
He goes and visits Mina at the hospital like the
47
00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:13.199
doting husband and they have to sort of play that
48
00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:16.039
role in front of the doctors and everyone. A lot
49
00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.719
of thought must have gone into how much to reveal
50
00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:20.680
in that moment about their marriage.
51
00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:23.879
We spend so much time with them. A part in
52
00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.520
the first two episodes that this is the first time
53
00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:30.680
they're ever together, Mina is putting on and nowt and
54
00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:33.360
Deacon se'es right through it. But when Gret gave me
55
00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:35.479
the long story that he'd written and we started breaking
56
00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.759
it down into scripts and deciding how to structure these
57
00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.840
ten episodes, this was kind of like the natural starting point.
58
00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.520
You have the big party, which soaps are known for,
59
00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:48.000
but then you have the denouncement that comes the next
60
00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.759
day as a result of everything that's just occurred, and
61
00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:53.439
then that really helps propel you on for the rest
62
00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:54.159
of the series.
63
00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.159
Yeah, and you mentioned doctor Layla Carreri, played by Kelly Tibo,
64
00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.719
And at this point in the show, she's really the
65
00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:05.479
only character that we've met that doesn't know the dynamic
66
00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:09.199
of Deacon and Mina. So she represents kind of the
67
00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:13.520
public facing, right important figure in the community. That is,
68
00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:15.759
you know, maybe she has her own thoughts on what
69
00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:19.360
she thinks is happening, but we're seeing how this couple
70
00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:21.039
faces the world.
71
00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.719
Sounds like we're going to be seeing more of doctor Carreri.
72
00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.400
She'll be and she'll be slipping in. There's more with
73
00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:31.919
her in later episodes for sure, she definitely plays a role.
74
00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:38.240
Yes, okay, well I heard doctor Bellavoe being paged as well, Grant.
75
00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.120
Is that a throwback of sorts?
76
00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:44.360
Oh yeah, well that voiceover by Christielson with that one.
77
00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:48.560
But yeah that I had a project all through high
78
00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:52.120
school that I produced a couple seasons of a soap opera,
79
00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.599
and that was I've been doing this too long. But
80
00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:58.560
very few people would know about that. But the Bellevo's
81
00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:00.360
were a family on the show, and I just figured
82
00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:02.560
I'd slip it in because why not. Why should I
83
00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:06.360
use canned sound effects that someone else recorded ten years ago?
84
00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:08.000
So why not customize it?
85
00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:10.120
Well, and that's really cool.
86
00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.400
I think the fans of Montecito would be happy to
87
00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:14.159
know that you've been at this for a long time.
88
00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.720
You are just as big of a soap opera nut
89
00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:18.319
as the rest of us.
90
00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:23.360
I know too much useless knowledge. I don't know.
91
00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:25.519
Uh.
92
00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.480
Deacon and Mina's relationship is not the only one that
93
00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.600
we get a better grasp of in this episode. We
94
00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:35.920
also figure out what's going down between JJ and Bethany
95
00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.279
Gina a lot to unpack their Holy Moly, now I
96
00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:44.160
don't have any siblings so I am particularly interested in
97
00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:45.399
this dynamic between the.
98
00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:46.920
Two of them.
99
00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.480
What needed to happen between the two of them for
100
00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.319
the rest of the story to move along, Like, clearly
101
00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.759
this relationship is going to be integral to the story.
102
00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:00.160
Right, Yeah, I think it was important to have a
103
00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:04.120
brother sister relationship. It's you know, soaps are based in relationships,
104
00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.000
so you know, we can have couples and you know,
105
00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:09.399
father son dynamics. But I like the idea of these
106
00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:13.439
siblings and they're they're too old to cry to their parents.
107
00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.600
You know, their father has passed on and everything got
108
00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.480
left to the brother, and obviously there's a lot of
109
00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:23.680
deep seated contempt in that. And objectively, Bethadgina is more
110
00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.079
of the alpha of the two, but JJ kind of
111
00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:29.839
won out and it doesn't sit well with her, and
112
00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:35.120
JJ is compromised and vulnerable, and I think that the
113
00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:38.680
character definitely is manipulated by the women in his life,
114
00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.800
and you know, for God or for bad. But I'm
115
00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.120
glad that it came through that you could see their
116
00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:46.600
dynamic and the kind of the push pull between that
117
00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:48.639
because they've just never seen an eye.
118
00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.319
It's giving succession, but that's what you guys were going
119
00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:53.319
for you and nailed it.
120
00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:55.800
I just I love.
121
00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.279
These rich people who don't really need to work, but
122
00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:01.120
yet it's all so important that because it's all you go,
123
00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:01.639
you know.
124
00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:03.040
It's fascinating.
125
00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:05.879
Well, and another reason why it's important for everybody to
126
00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:07.800
watch and sit down here for the after show.
127
00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:10.800
Last week on the after show for episode two, we.
128
00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.759
Learned that Mina's father was a doctor, and that was
129
00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.199
something that we hadn't heard in the episode. And so
130
00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.120
this week, when we get this moment between her and him,
131
00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:23.360
I was especially intreateds like, oh, okay, more about Mina's
132
00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:25.560
history and her family and so that we can really
133
00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.800
understand why she is the way that she is. Also,
134
00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.000
it must have been important at this point to show
135
00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:33.759
her being vulnerable.
136
00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:35.680
Mina the big old B word.
137
00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:40.839
Until this moment here we see a really vulnerable daughter.
138
00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:46.519
I can only imagine that you were thinking about ways
139
00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:48.160
to humanize her a little bit.
140
00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.519
Is that what this part of the story is for Andrew.
141
00:06:54.839 --> 00:07:00.439
Yes. However, with Mina, humanization can only go so far
142
00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:04.040
in one direction or the other. And you know, in
143
00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.560
soap opera we do have these tropes of people talking
144
00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:12.399
to photos, people talking to objects, from a childhood or
145
00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.120
a lock of hair or a wig. You know, we
146
00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:17.680
have everything. So the fact that she's talking to a
147
00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:22.800
Komocho's father is really interesting because why is he being
148
00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:26.519
kept alive? What is her relationship to him? She makes
149
00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:28.879
it a point to go see him, and you know,
150
00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:32.560
we really wanted to start digging into her own pathless
151
00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:35.000
in her own psychology and her own history. But this
152
00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:39.680
was done intentionally an audience just trust us on this one.
153
00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:42.279
Yeah, And in typical mean of fashion, she talks about
154
00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:48.160
herself the entire time and what she's good, what she's accomplished,
155
00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:49.879
and what she's going to do next.
156
00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.560
Well it's great because as a listener it answered a
157
00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:55.319
lot of things, but also kept me wondering.
158
00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:57.680
You know, was her dad heard on her?
159
00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:00.040
Did he need her and want her to be this
160
00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:02.079
person who would do anything to get to the top.
161
00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:03.879
Is that where this came from?
162
00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:04.079
From?
163
00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:08.360
Mina? So that was an incredibly interesting scene for me.
164
00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:09.879
But there's more here.
165
00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:14.199
Of course, Bethany Gina becomes the next visitor to Mina
166
00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:18.000
in the hospital, and I was kind of expecting like
167
00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.959
a clash right away. I just assumed from the way
168
00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.439
the story was going that these two did have history
169
00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:25.040
and they did know each other, and we were going
170
00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:26.079
to hear about something that.
171
00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:26.920
Happened in the past.
172
00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:30.560
But what's more fun is that we as the listeners,
173
00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.960
get to kind of come along on the relationship of
174
00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:37.039
Mina and Bethany Gina and how that's gonna go down.
175
00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:40.559
They definitely got up on the wrong hood. Yeah, yeah, No,
176
00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.080
Bethany Gina is coming into this seed and she is
177
00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:47.879
just practical and grounded, and you know, we're gonna just
178
00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:51.120
work this out, and you know, here's some flowers. How
179
00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.200
can I help? And you know, we're just gonna pack
180
00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:57.120
this away and it's just a simple misunderstanding and it's
181
00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:00.399
certainly not gonna take it that way like anything else.
182
00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.559
This is an opportunity for her to have somewhat in
183
00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:08.519
debt to her. And I loved how Beta just kind
184
00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:12.000
of kept catching Bethanigina and ratcheting her up and ratcheting
185
00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:13.840
her up for it to the very end, because beth
186
00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:17.799
and Egina doesn't get it, she'll never fully understand how
187
00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:21.759
to handle a narcissist. She's feeding into that narcissistic supply,
188
00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.840
and Venus just taking it all the way to the bank.
189
00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:29.080
It's one of my favorite scenes in the show because
190
00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:32.919
I just love seeing this origin of this feud, but
191
00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:37.440
also both these women just really with their own agendas, right.
192
00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:42.360
And we also get to see something in play that
193
00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.000
Mina references when she talks to her father about how
194
00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:50.120
Montecito has different expectations for her versus themselves. So it really, like,
195
00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.840
very subtly just on the undercurrent, it's still playing with
196
00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.480
disposition of power as it who can have it and
197
00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.960
who is allowed to make a school versus who's mistake
198
00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:04.240
of blinding them in prison. There are a lot of
199
00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:06.639
things going on in that scene. For me, it kind
200
00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:10.159
of calls back to the origin of Dorian and Vicki's
201
00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:13.320
feudal One Life to Live, where Dorian always assumed that
202
00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.919
Vicky was the reason why she lost her medical license,
203
00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.279
but Vicky knew and the audience knew that Vicky was
204
00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.759
the only one who stood up for her and voted
205
00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:22.840
for her to keep her job. So, you know, we
206
00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.559
get to lay that kind of groundwork in mon the seedo.
207
00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.080
I have to say, I really am kind of rooting
208
00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.000
for Bethany Gina at this point. Most of the characters
209
00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.799
are what I would call terrible, horrible people. And I
210
00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.159
would have assumed that Bethany Gina just because the way
211
00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:38.519
everyone was talking about her, like she's such a huge deal.
212
00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:41.159
But she's really going to come back and mix things
213
00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.799
up a little bit. I was expecting the same sort
214
00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:47.240
of narcissistic behavior from her, but she's really giving us
215
00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:48.879
something different, and it's intriguing.
216
00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.440
It's got me. I'm ready to root for Bethany Gina.
217
00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.039
I will say, all these characters, I'm so curious to
218
00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.720
know who resonates with who. I've had seen a lot
219
00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:02.480
of comments about people loving Nina. Some people are gonna
220
00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.840
hate her, and other people are gonna root for Bethany Gina.
221
00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:08.039
So I love it because there's no wrong answer.
222
00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:14.200
Oh well, guys, we got a good satisfaction to our
223
00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:17.120
huge cliffhanger from episode two in this one. But I
224
00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:20.919
am still so enthralled. I am ready for the next episode.
225
00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.440
What do I have in store? What's in store for
226
00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:24.519
us in episode four?
227
00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:26.960
Well, if you like Bethany Gino you hate her, you're
228
00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.200
gonna see or hear more of her in this next
229
00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.240
episode because the board is meeting and we're gonna hear
230
00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:36.960
from Vincent Ayrazari, the chairman of the board of Regalton Worldwide,
231
00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:40.600
and he's kind of on the fence about what you do.
232
00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.679
And then we'll see where it all lands. It's gonna
233
00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.279
get intense all over again. We're just going up from here.
234
00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:49.960
Every episode is gonna be more chaotic than the last.
235
00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:52.679
Andrew, is there anything you're looking forward to us hearing
236
00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:53.519
an episode four?
237
00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:59.080
When I want the audience to start anticipating are the
238
00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.879
consequences of people's actions and their decision I think that's
239
00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:04.559
the best way I can put it.
240
00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:07.559
Well, we will certainly be watching it.
241
00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.960
If any of you out there have questions for Grants,
242
00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.000
and Andrew or some of the other production folks and
243
00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.519
the cast who will be joining us for later episodes
244
00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:17.399
of Montecito after sunset, you can hit us up on
245
00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.360
Facebook on the Monticito Facebook page or leave a comment
246
00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:23.000
or right here on YouTube and we will make sure
247
00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:24.720
to get your questions answered.
248
00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:28.759
You can find me on Instagram at its Grant's Rants
249
00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:29.320
and Andrew.
250
00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:31.639
You've got a lot of projects going on all the time.
251
00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.519
Where can everybody check you out?
252
00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:36.759
You can find me on Instagram at Andrew for twenty
253
00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:38.240
eighty three.
254
00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:42.159
Well, thank you guys so much for indulging me in
255
00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:46.159
a little extra Montecito this evening. Thank you for joining me,
256
00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:48.600
and we will see you all next time for more
257
00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:50.360
montecito after sunset.
1
00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:08.839
Hello, and welcome to Montecito after Sunset. My name is
2
00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:12.679
Christy and Montecito is one of my favorite new shows.
3
00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:15.039
It is a audio soap opera.
4
00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:17.519
If you haven't listened yet, go back and check out
5
00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:20.039
episodes one, two, and three are all up.
6
00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:22.640
On YouTube and anywhere you get podcasts.
7
00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:27.120
Now I have the incredible pleasure of breaking down episode three.
8
00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:31.480
Please welcome executive story editor Andrew Pemberton Fowler.
9
00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:34.799
Hi Andrew, Hi Christy, you get to see you again,
10
00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:36.520
you too, Thank you.
11
00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:40.000
And we also have creator and executive producer of Montecito
12
00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:42.359
joining us now, Grant Rutterer.
13
00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:44.640
Hey, Grant, Hi Christy, thanks for joining this.
14
00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:48.799
I am so excited to get behind the scenes a
15
00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.280
little bit of this with you guys, because I am
16
00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:55.240
so engrossed in this show, the characters.
17
00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:55.520
The chaos.
18
00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.000
It's a new dawn, it's a new day. We're at
19
00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:00.799
the hospital, and a lot of questions get answered just
20
00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:03.479
in those first few seconds of the show. This must
21
00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:05.439
have been kind of exciting to get to this point
22
00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:08.239
in the writing process because it kind of opens up
23
00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.319
to a new day in new stories and new details
24
00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:12.200
about our characters.
25
00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:12.439
Right.
26
00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:15.959
Yeah, that that first scene in the hospital you'll hear
27
00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:18.680
some chords at the beginning the first for Kai Colum,
28
00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:21.640
the Montecito chords, and they come in and that kind
29
00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:23.239
of signifies that it's a new day.
30
00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:23.760
Now.
31
00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.640
In other episodes, you'll hear a version of the music
32
00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:28.879
that was in the final scene, and then that will
33
00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:30.920
say that this is an extension of where we left
34
00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.840
off on the previous episode. But like you said, new day,
35
00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.640
everything is reset. You know, it's always a beautiful day
36
00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:40.920
in Montecito. And we learn that Mina is in the
37
00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.760
hospital and nobody would really check themselves into the er
38
00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.959
after getting tased. You usually can bounce back quite quickly,
39
00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:50.840
but we didn't obviously say that, but it just shows
40
00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:53.760
if you're paying attention that Mina is indeed a drama queen.
41
00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:54.719
She is.
42
00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:59.599
She's also we know, not the maybe best wife, right,
43
00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:03.840
and we also get a little bit more detail about
44
00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:06.159
her relationship her marriage.
45
00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.439
Deacon is there.
46
00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.960
He goes and visits Mina at the hospital like the
47
00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:13.199
doting husband and they have to sort of play that
48
00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:16.039
role in front of the doctors and everyone. A lot
49
00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.719
of thought must have gone into how much to reveal
50
00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:20.680
in that moment about their marriage.
51
00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:23.879
We spend so much time with them. A part in
52
00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.520
the first two episodes that this is the first time
53
00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:30.680
they're ever together, Mina is putting on and nowt and
54
00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:33.360
Deacon se'es right through it. But when Gret gave me
55
00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:35.479
the long story that he'd written and we started breaking
56
00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.759
it down into scripts and deciding how to structure these
57
00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.840
ten episodes, this was kind of like the natural starting point.
58
00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.520
You have the big party, which soaps are known for,
59
00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:48.000
but then you have the denouncement that comes the next
60
00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.759
day as a result of everything that's just occurred, and
61
00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:53.439
then that really helps propel you on for the rest
62
00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:54.159
of the series.
63
00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.159
Yeah, and you mentioned doctor Layla Carreri, played by Kelly Tibo,
64
00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.719
And at this point in the show, she's really the
65
00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:05.479
only character that we've met that doesn't know the dynamic
66
00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:09.199
of Deacon and Mina. So she represents kind of the
67
00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:13.520
public facing, right important figure in the community. That is,
68
00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:15.759
you know, maybe she has her own thoughts on what
69
00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:19.360
she thinks is happening, but we're seeing how this couple
70
00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:21.039
faces the world.
71
00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.719
Sounds like we're going to be seeing more of doctor Carreri.
72
00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:27.400
She'll be and she'll be slipping in. There's more with
73
00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:31.919
her in later episodes for sure, she definitely plays a role.
74
00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:38.240
Yes, okay, well I heard doctor Bellavoe being paged as well, Grant.
75
00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.120
Is that a throwback of sorts?
76
00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:44.360
Oh yeah, well that voiceover by Christielson with that one.
77
00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:48.560
But yeah that I had a project all through high
78
00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:52.120
school that I produced a couple seasons of a soap opera,
79
00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.599
and that was I've been doing this too long. But
80
00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:58.560
very few people would know about that. But the Bellevo's
81
00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:00.360
were a family on the show, and I just figured
82
00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:02.560
I'd slip it in because why not. Why should I
83
00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:06.360
use canned sound effects that someone else recorded ten years ago?
84
00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:08.000
So why not customize it?
85
00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:10.120
Well, and that's really cool.
86
00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.400
I think the fans of Montecito would be happy to
87
00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:14.159
know that you've been at this for a long time.
88
00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.720
You are just as big of a soap opera nut
89
00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:18.319
as the rest of us.
90
00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:23.360
I know too much useless knowledge. I don't know.
91
00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:25.519
Uh.
92
00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.480
Deacon and Mina's relationship is not the only one that
93
00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.600
we get a better grasp of in this episode. We
94
00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:35.920
also figure out what's going down between JJ and Bethany
95
00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.279
Gina a lot to unpack their Holy Moly, now I
96
00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:44.160
don't have any siblings so I am particularly interested in
97
00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:45.399
this dynamic between the.
98
00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:46.920
Two of them.
99
00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.480
What needed to happen between the two of them for
100
00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.319
the rest of the story to move along, Like, clearly
101
00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.759
this relationship is going to be integral to the story.
102
00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:00.160
Right, Yeah, I think it was important to have a
103
00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:04.120
brother sister relationship. It's you know, soaps are based in relationships,
104
00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.000
so you know, we can have couples and you know,
105
00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:09.399
father son dynamics. But I like the idea of these
106
00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:13.439
siblings and they're they're too old to cry to their parents.
107
00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.600
You know, their father has passed on and everything got
108
00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.480
left to the brother, and obviously there's a lot of
109
00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:23.680
deep seated contempt in that. And objectively, Bethadgina is more
110
00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.079
of the alpha of the two, but JJ kind of
111
00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:29.839
won out and it doesn't sit well with her, and
112
00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:35.120
JJ is compromised and vulnerable, and I think that the
113
00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:38.680
character definitely is manipulated by the women in his life,
114
00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.800
and you know, for God or for bad. But I'm
115
00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.120
glad that it came through that you could see their
116
00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:46.600
dynamic and the kind of the push pull between that
117
00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:48.639
because they've just never seen an eye.
118
00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.319
It's giving succession, but that's what you guys were going
119
00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:53.319
for you and nailed it.
120
00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:55.800
I just I love.
121
00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.279
These rich people who don't really need to work, but
122
00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:01.120
yet it's all so important that because it's all you go,
123
00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:01.639
you know.
124
00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:03.040
It's fascinating.
125
00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:05.879
Well, and another reason why it's important for everybody to
126
00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:07.800
watch and sit down here for the after show.
127
00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:10.800
Last week on the after show for episode two, we.
128
00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.759
Learned that Mina's father was a doctor, and that was
129
00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.199
something that we hadn't heard in the episode. And so
130
00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.120
this week, when we get this moment between her and him,
131
00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:23.360
I was especially intreateds like, oh, okay, more about Mina's
132
00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:25.560
history and her family and so that we can really
133
00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.800
understand why she is the way that she is. Also,
134
00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.000
it must have been important at this point to show
135
00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:33.759
her being vulnerable.
136
00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:35.680
Mina the big old B word.
137
00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:40.839
Until this moment here we see a really vulnerable daughter.
138
00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:46.519
I can only imagine that you were thinking about ways
139
00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:48.160
to humanize her a little bit.
140
00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.519
Is that what this part of the story is for Andrew.
141
00:06:54.839 --> 00:07:00.439
Yes. However, with Mina, humanization can only go so far
142
00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:04.040
in one direction or the other. And you know, in
143
00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.560
soap opera we do have these tropes of people talking
144
00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:12.399
to photos, people talking to objects, from a childhood or
145
00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.120
a lock of hair or a wig. You know, we
146
00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:17.680
have everything. So the fact that she's talking to a
147
00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:22.800
Komocho's father is really interesting because why is he being
148
00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:26.519
kept alive? What is her relationship to him? She makes
149
00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:28.879
it a point to go see him, and you know,
150
00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:32.560
we really wanted to start digging into her own pathless
151
00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:35.000
in her own psychology and her own history. But this
152
00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:39.680
was done intentionally an audience just trust us on this one.
153
00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:42.279
Yeah, And in typical mean of fashion, she talks about
154
00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:48.160
herself the entire time and what she's good, what she's accomplished,
155
00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:49.879
and what she's going to do next.
156
00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.560
Well it's great because as a listener it answered a
157
00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:55.319
lot of things, but also kept me wondering.
158
00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:57.680
You know, was her dad heard on her?
159
00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:00.040
Did he need her and want her to be this
160
00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:02.079
person who would do anything to get to the top.
161
00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:03.879
Is that where this came from?
162
00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:04.079
From?
163
00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:08.360
Mina? So that was an incredibly interesting scene for me.
164
00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:09.879
But there's more here.
165
00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:14.199
Of course, Bethany Gina becomes the next visitor to Mina
166
00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:18.000
in the hospital, and I was kind of expecting like
167
00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.959
a clash right away. I just assumed from the way
168
00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.439
the story was going that these two did have history
169
00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:25.040
and they did know each other, and we were going
170
00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:26.079
to hear about something that.
171
00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:26.920
Happened in the past.
172
00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:30.560
But what's more fun is that we as the listeners,
173
00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.960
get to kind of come along on the relationship of
174
00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:37.039
Mina and Bethany Gina and how that's gonna go down.
175
00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:40.559
They definitely got up on the wrong hood. Yeah, yeah, No,
176
00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.080
Bethany Gina is coming into this seed and she is
177
00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:47.879
just practical and grounded, and you know, we're gonna just
178
00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:51.120
work this out, and you know, here's some flowers. How
179
00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.200
can I help? And you know, we're just gonna pack
180
00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:57.120
this away and it's just a simple misunderstanding and it's
181
00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:00.399
certainly not gonna take it that way like anything else.
182
00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.559
This is an opportunity for her to have somewhat in
183
00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:08.519
debt to her. And I loved how Beta just kind
184
00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:12.000
of kept catching Bethanigina and ratcheting her up and ratcheting
185
00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:13.840
her up for it to the very end, because beth
186
00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:17.799
and Egina doesn't get it, she'll never fully understand how
187
00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:21.759
to handle a narcissist. She's feeding into that narcissistic supply,
188
00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.840
and Venus just taking it all the way to the bank.
189
00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:29.080
It's one of my favorite scenes in the show because
190
00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:32.919
I just love seeing this origin of this feud, but
191
00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:37.440
also both these women just really with their own agendas, right.
192
00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:42.360
And we also get to see something in play that
193
00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.000
Mina references when she talks to her father about how
194
00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:50.120
Montecito has different expectations for her versus themselves. So it really, like,
195
00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.840
very subtly just on the undercurrent, it's still playing with
196
00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.480
disposition of power as it who can have it and
197
00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.960
who is allowed to make a school versus who's mistake
198
00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:04.240
of blinding them in prison. There are a lot of
199
00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:06.639
things going on in that scene. For me, it kind
200
00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:10.159
of calls back to the origin of Dorian and Vicki's
201
00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:13.320
feudal One Life to Live, where Dorian always assumed that
202
00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.919
Vicky was the reason why she lost her medical license,
203
00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.279
but Vicky knew and the audience knew that Vicky was
204
00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.759
the only one who stood up for her and voted
205
00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:22.840
for her to keep her job. So, you know, we
206
00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.559
get to lay that kind of groundwork in mon the seedo.
207
00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.080
I have to say, I really am kind of rooting
208
00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.000
for Bethany Gina at this point. Most of the characters
209
00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.799
are what I would call terrible, horrible people. And I
210
00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.159
would have assumed that Bethany Gina just because the way
211
00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:38.519
everyone was talking about her, like she's such a huge deal.
212
00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:41.159
But she's really going to come back and mix things
213
00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.799
up a little bit. I was expecting the same sort
214
00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:47.240
of narcissistic behavior from her, but she's really giving us
215
00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:48.879
something different, and it's intriguing.
216
00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.440
It's got me. I'm ready to root for Bethany Gina.
217
00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.039
I will say, all these characters, I'm so curious to
218
00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.720
know who resonates with who. I've had seen a lot
219
00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:02.480
of comments about people loving Nina. Some people are gonna
220
00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.840
hate her, and other people are gonna root for Bethany Gina.
221
00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:08.039
So I love it because there's no wrong answer.
222
00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:14.200
Oh well, guys, we got a good satisfaction to our
223
00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:17.120
huge cliffhanger from episode two in this one. But I
224
00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:20.919
am still so enthralled. I am ready for the next episode.
225
00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.440
What do I have in store? What's in store for
226
00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:24.519
us in episode four?
227
00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:26.960
Well, if you like Bethany Gino you hate her, you're
228
00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.200
gonna see or hear more of her in this next
229
00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.240
episode because the board is meeting and we're gonna hear
230
00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:36.960
from Vincent Ayrazari, the chairman of the board of Regalton Worldwide,
231
00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:40.600
and he's kind of on the fence about what you do.
232
00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.679
And then we'll see where it all lands. It's gonna
233
00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.279
get intense all over again. We're just going up from here.
234
00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:49.960
Every episode is gonna be more chaotic than the last.
235
00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:52.679
Andrew, is there anything you're looking forward to us hearing
236
00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:53.519
an episode four?
237
00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:59.080
When I want the audience to start anticipating are the
238
00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.879
consequences of people's actions and their decision I think that's
239
00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:04.559
the best way I can put it.
240
00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:07.559
Well, we will certainly be watching it.
241
00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.960
If any of you out there have questions for Grants,
242
00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.000
and Andrew or some of the other production folks and
243
00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.519
the cast who will be joining us for later episodes
244
00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:17.399
of Montecito after sunset, you can hit us up on
245
00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.360
Facebook on the Monticito Facebook page or leave a comment
246
00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:23.000
or right here on YouTube and we will make sure
247
00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:24.720
to get your questions answered.
248
00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:28.759
You can find me on Instagram at its Grant's Rants
249
00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:29.320
and Andrew.
250
00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:31.639
You've got a lot of projects going on all the time.
251
00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.519
Where can everybody check you out?
252
00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:36.759
You can find me on Instagram at Andrew for twenty
253
00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:38.240
eighty three.
254
00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:42.159
Well, thank you guys so much for indulging me in
255
00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:46.159
a little extra Montecito this evening. Thank you for joining me,
256
00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:48.600
and we will see you all next time for more
257
00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:50.360
montecito after sunset.
