7/21/23 - The Mo Egger w/ Chad Brendel

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M you found Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Here we go Friday in the Queen
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City. This is the Molegger Show. I am not Molegger still, I'm
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still Chad Brendall, but I'm here. Thank you for choosing me. Thank
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you to everybody for tuning in.
We have a busy show today, busy,
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busy weekend in the Queen City.
We will be joined by Nick Pokoro,
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the Diamondbacks beat writer for the Arizona
Republic. Get a pre view of
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this weekend series. Big one for
the Reds. This can either go pretty
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well or it can it can be
disastrous. This is the end of a
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ten game homestand currently they've played seven
games. They've won three. They're three
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and four. You could potentially potentially
no excuse me, they won two,
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two and five. That's my bed
swept by the Brewers and then two to
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four from the Giants. If you
sweep, you can get to even on
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this homestand four and six is on
the table, Three and seven is on
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the table or disaster, We're being
quite honest. So this is a big
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one for the Reds. As they
can they try to regain their mojo in
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the second half of the season and
avoid a really rough start to the second
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half with ten ten of the games
being at home. These two teams are
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are pretty pretty similar in terms of
both very good hitting teams, both struggle
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from the mount, and the Reds
have just thrown their top two guys Abbott
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and Nashcraft just went to win those
two games in the Giant Series, So
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it's gonna it's gonna be tough.
Lively Williamson Weaver. We'll talk to Nick
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Pacoro. It's gonna be interesting.
They have not named a starter for Saturday
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or Sunday the Diamondbacks, so we'll
hopefully get some insight there. TBT tonight
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six o'clock, Nasty Natty, the
University of Cincinnati alumni team takes the floor
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against the Money Team. It was
always one of the better teams in the
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TBT, and then following that at
eight zip them up. We will be
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joined at three thirty by my good
friend Kashmir Right, former u SEE point
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guard who is now a coach for
the Nasty Natty. He has seen this
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team in action this week. He
has He has also watched them a couple
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of times play open gym with the
current U SEE ross so we'll get some
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thoughts from Cash, We'll find out
what he's been up to. We'll get
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some thoughts on tonight, and we'll
get his thoughts on what he's seeing from
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west Miller's squad. We're also gonna
we're gonna try to bridge a gap here.
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There's beef. There's major beef between
Richard Skinner of Local twelve and Tony
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Pike of since three sixty fame,
and we're gonna try to bridge that gap.
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We'll talk about who's next in the
Ring of Honor for the Bengals,
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Dave Lapham, Lamar Parish, Corey
Dillon, somebody else, Ken Riley,
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No, Ken Raleyson, I know
where that came from. There's it's there's
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still a pretty short list of guys
that you know, like these guys are
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gonna be in before we get to, uh that that next wave of guys,
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who's going to be next in the
Ring of Honor for the Cincinnati Bengals,
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And we'll get to Jonathan India and
the conundrum the Red's face there are
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they going to continue to rotate to
where you know, one guy gets a
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rest every day and you and you
just sprinkle it around the team. Jonathan
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India has said he hates it,
doesn't like it. Not a fan,
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he wants to play every day,
doesn't like rest. Will the Reds take
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that surplus and turn it into an
arm or will they say we like where
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we're at, being able to keep
everybody fresh and rotating through. So we've
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got a lot to get to and
should be a should be an exciting and
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fun show. So let's take a
break. Nick Pecoro from the Arizona Republic
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and Azy Central joins us to get
a little preview, a look ahead at
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the Diamondbacks heading into the weekend.
This is the Moegger Show. I Am
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not Moegger right here on Cincinnati's ESPN
fifteen thirty. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati,
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available everywhere with the iHeartRadio app now
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station I forgot. Are we gonna
mix in any like uh any Al Green,
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or we're gonna mix in any baby
face? Or we're just going all
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snoop all day. You'll see,
We'll see, okay snoop snoop in town
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tomorrow night. Tarn will be there. I expect a full report on Monday
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done. All right, let's get
right to it. Busy show today,
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we lead it off the leadoff man
from the Arizona Republic none other than Nick
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Pokoro, Nick, who covers the
Diamondbacks on a daily basis. How are
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you, my friend? Well,
what's going on? Thanks for having me
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on? No problem? Are you
in town? Are you? Are you
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gonna try to sneak in a Snoop
Dogg concert tomorrow night while you're here?
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I'm actually this is this is a
series I'm not covering in person. No,
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I'm not there this week. Yah, you missed out on an opportunity.
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It's okay. Yeah, this Uh, this Diamondbacks team is coming out
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of the break looking good. They
took two of three from the Braids,
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almost swept the Braids, which has
been very difficult this year. This is
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a team that, if you look
at the numbers, looks a lot like
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the Reds. Are you surprised,
even when you subtract Corbyn Carroll recently that
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this they've continued to play like they
have? Um? Yeah, I mean
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there's a lot of things about them
that that have been a little bit confusing.
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Um. I think they have a
lot of talent. I think they
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have a lot of good young talent
UM, but like there's just been certain
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aspects of the way their season is
kind of unfolded. That's been it's just
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hard to believe. I mean,
they have two really good starting pitchers,
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but on the other three days it's
been pretty inconsistent. Um, and yet
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they have about a five hundred record
on those other three days, And that's
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not usually how it works when those
guys have there's you know, north of
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five and in the neighborhood of yeah, yeah, and then and then they've
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you know, they've had guys like
you know, Jake McCarthy, Alec Thomas,
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Josh Rojas, guys that were I'm
not sure literally in their opening day
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lineup or not, but you know, expected to be big parts of their
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of their offense this year. All
those guys have been sent down to Reno
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at times this year. Um,
two of them are back. But it's
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just it's just been sort of odd
that they've been able to kind of,
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you know, maintain this pace,
this record. Um, they've had a
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little bit of a speed bump recently. It seems like the Atlanta Series maybe
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gets some back on track. We'll
see, Um, they're still not like
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playing great. Uh but uh but
yeah, they're they're they're definitely on the
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right track. I feel like after
that the we're listed as TBD for starting
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pitchers on Saturday and Sunday. Any
idea how that shakes out? Yeah,
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I would guess that, um,
that Brandon spot is going to be one
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of those guys and he has he
has struggled badly this year and coming to
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you know, pitch against that line
up in that wallpark, given some of
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the home run clothes that he had, um is maybe not ideal, but
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I'm I'm guessing he's going to get
a crack. And I would guess that
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the other day it is probably going
to be a bullpen day. And uh,
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offensively, what has been the secret
to success? Because when you look
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at the number, it's not like
when you look like when you look at
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the Braids numbers, you're like,
oh goodness, Um, when you look
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at the numbers, nothing really jumps
off the page. You know, nobody's
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got a major amount of home runs. But it just looks like consistency up
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and down the lineup. A lot
of guys hitting between two seventy and two
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ninety and they get on base it
seems like just a full team effort in
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terms of why this offense is so
good. Yeah, I mean, it's
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it's not a team full of boppers, You're right, UM's it's kind of
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been a little bit more like like, well, Corbyn Carroll is what you
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have to start with. I mean, he's been one of the best hitters
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in the nationally pretty consistently throughout the
season. He hasn't been quite as locked
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in since having those shoulder issues a
couple of weeks back, but um,
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he's he's the biggest reason send you
know, you move on from him,
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and it's kind of been like a
different guy carrying them for different stretches.
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Um, it's just sort of,
you know, one of those characteristics that
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most good teams seem to have where
it's you know, you're not always relying
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on the same one or two or
three guys. It's you know, maybe
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Lordascuriel get hot for a couple of
weeks, maybe Christian Walker gets hot.
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Maybe it's it's El Marte. That's
I know where they've been, um for
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most of the year. I mean, and then kind of bigger picture,
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you know, they they're really aggressive
on the bases, Um and they make
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a lot of contact. I don't. I don't know if you've noticed that
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that they're they're a team that's generally
hard to strike out. And when you
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have those two, those two things
kind of put together, it makes you
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a little bit maybe a little a
little slump of verse so to speak,
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um just makes it kind of It's
still not like a high charged offense or
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powerful in a sense, but like
it's just easier to manufacture a run here
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and there and kind of stay in
games. Would you say that this is
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I think the parallels between these two
teams, the more I dug into Arizona
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is fascinating to me. But would
you say this is a team that has
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greatly benefited from the change in the
rules, you know, the pitch clock
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and the bigger basses and more,
you know, more activity, more steals,
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more more aggression offensively, Yeah,
yeah, young and a and a
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younger group and guys kind of like
you know, just just fresh and energetic,
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right. Um. I feel like
they are very similar clubs. I
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think a lot more people saw this
coming from the Diamondbacks than than maybe saw
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it from the Red Sure, I
think that's pretty safe to say. But
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but yeah, and I don't.
I don't know that these guys even really
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like anticipated the rule change in advance. There's just sort of they were collecting
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all these young, speedy, you
know kind of athletes and and just sort
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of let's let's see how it plays
out. And it wanted up, you
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know, the rule change, the
timing and all that stuff. With all
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the rule changes, it just worked
out great for them. I think what's
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fascinating to me about it is for
teams like the Diamondbacks and the Reds,
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and you know, there's mid market. I don't think either are you know,
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low market or low budget teams.
The Reds forced them. They act
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like they are at times. But
I digress, Um, it doesn't even
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make more sense. Like power hitters
are expensive, you know what you do?
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You know who doesn't get a you
know, thirty million dollars a year
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contract. Contact hitters, Guys that
get on base, guy, guys that
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move a runner or or go first
to third, Like maybe they should.
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Maybe they will now that we're seeing
things change. But if you're looking at,
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you know, being able to keep
payroll reasonable, like that's probably a
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really good place to be if you're
if you're a team like the Diamondbacks are
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the Reds. Yeah, I'm not
sure that anybody really plans it out that
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way, right. I mean,
I think when you're when you're looking at
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the draft, you're still trying to
find those big boppers because you know you're
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not gonna be able to go get
him. But I think in a sense
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what you're kind of describing as a
moneyball philosophy, right, similar, Yeah,
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kind of you're you're kind of have
to build your team with two resources
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you have available to you, and
if those those are the players that are
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out there that you can afford,
you kind of have to play the hand
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you're delt. Has the has Elimania
kind of made it to Arizona or are
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they aware of kind of this alien
that the Reds have playing for them right
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now? I don't. I don't
think there's anybody in baseball that isn't aware
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of what he's up to, especially
after he's useful second third at home and
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whatever it was too pitch Span a
couple ago. I mean, it's it's
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pretty amazing. Um. I do
think in a sense like Corbyn Carrell is
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kind of that guy M and minus, Like you know, he's not six
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five, Yeah, exactly I mean, but Corbyn has things that that Ellie
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probably doesn't have, and that he
has a much more refined approach y um,
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and just just a you know,
I think, just a more mature
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approach at the plate. I I
I'm not saying Corbyn Carrell is is,
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you know, a slam dunk like
you know, Hall of Fame or anything
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like that. But I don't think
he. I don't think Ellie has really
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established himself and shown that he can
kind of, you know, handle a
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steady diet of breaking pitches or pitches
out of his own in the same way
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that that Corbyn Carrell has. So
um, for me, they're very similar
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players. I kind of feel like
the jury is still a little bit out
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on on De la Cruz. Actually, if if you really dig into it,
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the guy that the Reds do have
a guy that kind of reminds me
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of Corbyn Carroll. But it's not
Ellie de la Cruz. It's Matt McLean
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Good. Oh, that's just their
approach. I'm pretty familiar with him too,
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because he was a guy that the
Diamondbacks drafting you can get signed.
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I don't know if you're familiar with
that, Yeah, went to UCLA instead.
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Yeah, exactly. That's that's an
interesting comp Yeah, I think Corbyn.
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I'm not sure I would guess that
Corbyn has a little bit more power,
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but those are good, Those are
good comparisons, and obviously different,
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different body types and positions and all
that. I would just compare him a
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little more than Elle because I think
they're both really mature at the plate,
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Like when you watch their approach,
they've got a good compact, swaying like
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they kind of they they feel like
those guys that have been around for a
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while, because when you watch them
hit, like there's a plan, Like
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they're not up there guessing or getting
fooled, like they they have a grasp
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of what they want to do at
the plate, which is why I really
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like watching both guys play. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen as much
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as McClain as i'd like, um, but it just reminds me the Diambacks
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have kind a really good job of
of identifying these types of hitters in the
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draft over the years. Even though
they didn't sign McClain like they drafted them,
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they've done a real nice job at
the top of the draft. I
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appreciate it. Yeah, all right, well let's uh, let's get you
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out of here. I enjoy the
conversation and looking forward to watching which should
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be two pretty similar teams play a
great American ballpark. Uh, if if,
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if you can, if you can
get to a legal gambling app or
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place of establishment, I would I
would be comfortable with the overmost of the
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series, wouldn't you. Uh?
Yeah, I saw some of the names
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of who the Reds are going to
be running out there. Yeah, they're
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two best guys pitched the last two
nights. They're two best guys pitched the
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last two nights, So it's probably
gonna probably gonna be a lot of running.
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The number is gonna be pretty high, though. Yeah, you're you're
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gonna have to get a pretty big, pretty big number. But I think
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I'm there on the side of the
over two. All right, Nick,
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tell them where they can find you
at. Nicko and my stories are all
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at asycentral dot com. Thank for
having me on. Appreciate it. Man,
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have a great weekend. There you
go. Nick Pikoro from the Arizona
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Republic and azcentral dot Com joining us
to preview the Diamondbacks, and uh,
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this is gonna be a fun series. We might have a couple of those
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eleven to tens. Like we saw
what Tuesday night? Wednesday? Tuesday night,
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Yeah, Tuesday night against San Francisco. Let's take a break. Cashmere
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right joins us after this since Nati's
ESPN fifteen thirty, I told you she,
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why do you do this to me? Teren Nate. I'm not allowed
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done. Welcome back Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen
thirty. Tarn So, um, have
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you seen the new nil opportunity for
the Bearcats? No? So this might
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come into play next Friday. On
Fridays, we do pizza party. Fridays.
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We generally go to a spot down
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The Godfather now has his own pizza
taran from my good friends at MEO's.
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You can get the Godfather. It
is bacon, pepperoni, halapenos, and
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ground beef. Sounds pretty good,
don't it. Man? So that might
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be next Friday. We might have
to get a Godfather. I don't know.
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Speaking of legendary Bearcats, the TBT
is tonight Nasty Natti takes the court
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at six pm against the Money team. So let's talk about it with a
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good friend of mine and former employee, All Star employee, a Bearcat journal
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Kashmire. Right, Cash, what's
up? Brother? Oh? What's up?
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How are you doing? I appreciate
the introduction. Now all Star?
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Now look at you. I mean, you know you were. You're a
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decent player in the Big East,
right, you held your own I'm talking
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about you, said with an All
Star employee, you were. I mean,
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you know, I appreciate that.
Cash actually called me from the Netherlands
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after he blew out his knee for
the second time and said, Chad,
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I'm gonna need something to do when
I get back to Cincinnati. Got a
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spot for me, Yeah, rockv
On, I got a spot for you.
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All time leader and steals at the
University of Cincinnati. How about that.
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But that's still to be standard.
Is kind of is amazing. I
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mean, not many, not many
guys get to play as many games as
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you play. You played one hundred
and thirty nine games in your career and
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only four years you didn't have that
phony COVID year thing built in. How
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great could you have been if it
wasn't for that pesky knee. Look what
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you did in the Big East on
a bad knee. That's what I'm saying,
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I think it would have been a
lot I think it would have been
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a lot more explosive. We're talking
like athletic ability. But I think it
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helped my shooting a little bit.
Getting hurt, spent a little more time
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in the gym shooting. Your shot
became deadly. What I want to know,
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take me through that first half against
Syracuse when you guys just couldn't miss.
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In the best tournament build up.
It will build up because if you
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remember the game before, we couldn't
make a shot right the Georgetown game.
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Uh, you know, it was
one of them things where we got a
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bunch of we we came in with
a bunch of shooters. We had the
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four guard thing going and it was
a special night. You know, you
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really get a night where all of
us are hitting shots, and that's what
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happened that night. Did it feel
like you guys were just throwing it into
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the ocean. Yeah, Like we
always said the same thing, it felt
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like we couldn't miss. Like anything
you put up it was going in.
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I think sk sk and Don had
been shot through you. Yeah, yeah,
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it was. That was one of
the more fun nights in h in
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recent Bearcat Marie, Uh, what
is cash up to? Now? Take
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me take me through uh the entrance
into coaching and teaching and all that good
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stuff to let the people know what
you're doing. Okay, So right now
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I am head coach at Clark montas
Story in High Park. Um. Also
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I have an edu program one vision
Elite and uh, gonna finish your school,
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getting my masters now in education.
So I would probably become like a
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teacher. Well not probably, I
will become a teacher next year. Nice.
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And how important it wasn't to you
staying in Cincinnati. You're a guy
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with with roots in the South.
Was it just you know, this is
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kind of this is home now?
Yeah? So of course I met my
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wife here, um and she said
exactly so she so she got the good
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job and she said, I ain't
leaving it. So now I got here,
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which wasn't a bad thing. I
love it here besides the one.
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Yeah. Not many winners like that
in Savannah, right, No, not
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at all. How's how's how's the
fam? Everybody back home? Good?
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Everybody's great, um, like I
told me, and you just spoke about
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it. My daughter's doing great now
she's older. Um now, like I
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said, fun stack I got a
national champion as a daughter. There you
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go, Uh in gymnastics. Would
you believe that I would believe that,
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I would believe that. You forget
I saw you playing height like I know
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what your athleticism you was before you
got hurt. Okay, that's true.
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I forget you See, I forget
how long you've been in it. You
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still look young, you still got
the young faith. Um tbt. Yeah,
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you guys have been in town all
week, getting getting work in,
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getting things together. How's this team
gonna look for tonight against a really talented
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money team. I think we're gonna
look pretty good, a little more scrulcture.
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Hopefully these guys come out with the
right mindset and compete. And that's
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the main thing to me. Um, we got the talent, We got
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everything we need. We just need
guys to actually go out there and compete
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and play how we were, how
we were taught to play when they were
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Bearcats. Well, you know,
you know you got Troy com paying to
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point guard. You know Troy will
compete and you know he's gonna talk,
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you know he's gonna have fun.
Uh just tell me like that. You
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know you kind of passed the torch
to him indirectly, How is it having
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him kind of run your team?
I mean, it's perfect to be honest
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with you, just to bounce outdids
often. But you know it's not even
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just him. You got Jarring,
you got Jacob. Just to bounce out
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DIDs off those guys is actually ideal
to be around basketball minds like that who've
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actually played the game at higher levels. It's kind of it's kind of great
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because you know, like I said, I coach high school. So if
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you go from coaching high school to
coach these high level guys, everything seems
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so much easier. Tray Scott k
I think he was the missing piece last
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year. It was recovering from a
minor injury and didn't get to play in
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that first round game last year.
Uh. Another guy that just knows the
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game and coming fresh off the summer
league. It's got to be great having
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a guy like him you can count
on two Oh, I'm telling you.
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So we're hoping that we have them
because I heard it with some some stealings
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that he might get a two way
deal. So hopefully, okay that holds
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all good for him? Yeah yeah, yeah, great, great for him,
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not just for us, but as
a Bearcat family, we're proud of
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him. He uh, he would
certainly add a big boost to you guys
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tonight. Uh so looking forward to
it. And you guys had a chance
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a couple a couple of scrimmages against
the current team. Uh, what were
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your thoughts on getting to look at
kind of another new look Bearcat team with
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a bunch of new faces. I
like him. I like him. I
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think um for the fans that haven't
probably haven't seen him like we have,
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I think they're going to be surprised
by the talent level and the way they're
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competing right now. We got some
real good athletic guys. I felt like
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the guys who we who we got
recruited here and the new guys are pretty
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good and they all fit together,
and like I said, I just like
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the fact that they out there compete. And then we got some guys that
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want to win and cared by winning, whether that's open gyms or not.
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You saw the two new point guards
davey on da Day Thomas and Jill James.
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Any any thoughts on those two getting
a look out in person? Yeah,
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I mean really didn't, I mean
was pretty young. Yeah, so
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you gotta keep that in mind set
for him just learning. But that day
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days, I like him a lot. I think he's really you can tell
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he seasons, he understands what's going
on. H He played with different gears,
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so it's just not one. You
know, he's going back and forth.
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And also he's able to put the
ball in the bucket for the main
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thing. He had to move to
the rim last night. That looked like
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high school cashman, right, didn't
he? Hey man? Even better than
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that? Man? I would like, I said, I can't wait to
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actually see him and high level opponents. You know, definitely, I'm gonna
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be there this year. We there. Is it surprising when you walk into
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the gym how big they are from
Jamiel and di zz and Vic and Odi
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and I mean that that's a big, big team. But that's that's what
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I was talking shot yesterday and he
said the same thing. He was like,
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man, hey, they they're big. I was like, yeah,
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But you know what though, going
into that new league, I think it
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would be great for us. No, hopefully that the sides go ahead.
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I was gonna say, what it
reminded me of is is when Cincinnati walked
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out on the floor against UH Texas
in the round of thirty two. In
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that game, you advanced to the
sweet sixteen and you look down on the
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other side of the floor and you're
like, man, every one of these
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dudes is six to nine. It
felt like no, no, I would
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think nothing. Florida State game,
and that's why I'm at Florida State.
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Yeah, Florida State. Yeah,
hey, yeah, they would, they
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would be big. I think I
think they're gone. Was like a six
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five, yeah, the point you
all with six five? Yeah, that
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was but Park went out and got
a double double, got the job done.
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Right. But you know what though, it's the same thing. I
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was telling him what the tvt right
now? I'm like, man, so
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we're gonna start small, yeah,
And I was like, man that it
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really doesn't matter what the high thing
as wrong as we got a big point
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guard and a big shooting guard,
so we should be fun as wether as
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everybody crashed. If somebody has to
dominate, dominate the match up on the
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boards, yeah, it just translates
to the same thing. You need you
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need somebody to do the dirty work. Where's Park? So I'm coming to
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the conclusion that my error has retired
all over. You guys are done right,
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all of them. I call us
k he said he retired. I
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mean shock shocks kind of like he
was half in that era. Ye,
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that's true. He yeah, I
think we're shot two eleven or two ten,
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Yes, I think it was.
I think it was. I think
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it was eleven. Maybe I think
it was eleven eleven twelve. But yeah,
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but he's getting up there. He's
he's the old head on that group,
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that is so old on the team. Yeah, that's funny to think
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of, because you guys don't.
It doesn't feel like you were in college
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that long ago. But I mean
you you you graduated a decade ago now,
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not to aid you. Wow,
wow, way to make me feel
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old. All right, brother,
I will see you tonight. As soon
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as I get off the air,
I will be down there and courtside as
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soon as possible to take in the
action. Best to luck tonight, man.
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Thanks for calling in and great to
catch up. Yes here, thank
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you for having me on there.
You go. Cash me a right,
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former Bearcat all time leader and steals
at the University of Cincinnati, and it
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was a big hand in getting this
program back on track and turned around under
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mc cronin Um. It's been good
seeing Cash a couple times this week and
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looking forward to seeing him tonight.
All right, let's take a break more
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after this. Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Who's on the d O getting ESPN
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fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio? Want something
dog got it? Yeah? I think
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this is gonna be another one of
those parts hot soul and me. You
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want to be winning. If you
want something bad, you gotta give you.
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I'm just I'm just hanging out.
Actually get you able to say as
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me you got I mean it's on
a Friday, should feel like exactly.
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It's a song baby plays has to
perform more. He wrote it. I
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know he wrote it. Yeah,
but he didn't sing it. People'll be
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doing a lot of songs he didn't
sing them. Okay, I mean Ghostbusters
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too. Ye, gotta gotta take
control, gotta gotta gotta take control.
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He didn't think I'd remember this was
Ghostbusters too, did you? Hm?
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For summer? We've had a lot
of luck with Bobby Brown on Fridays,
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like he just it's it's a Friday
vibe. Shoulders kind of get going classic
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Bengals Ring of Honor or What's next
phone lines are open, by the way,
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UH free for the next couple of
segments. Richard Skinner coming up at
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twenty and uh Brennaman and Jones on
baseball at the end of the four o'clock
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hours. So we've got a little
bit of time. What's next in the
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Bengals Ring of Honor? Here's who's
in. Boomer and Chad go in joined
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Willie Anderson, Isaac Curtis, Ken
Anderson, Paul Brown, Anthony Munios,
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and Ken Riley. The guys that
have been nominated so far that haven't made
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it, and these guys are all
going to get in eventually. It's just
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a matter of what order. Jim
Breach, James Brooks, Chris Collinsworth,
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Corey Dillon, David Fulcher, Tim
crum Rye, Dave Lapham, Max Montoya
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Lamar Parish, Bob Trumpie and Reggie
Williams. I think most people have it
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down to three. Would you agree
with that? Arran Yes, Lamar Parish,
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Dave Lapham, Corey Dillon. Correct. If you had to pick two
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of those three, who would it
be for me? Lapping Dylon. I
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know everybody probably is going to go
that direction. Dylan and Parish are just
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so close for me. I mean, Parrish did a little bit of everything,
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cornerback, kick returner, punt returner. It was one of the best
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returners in the NFL, if not
the best returner in the NFL, and
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his era really good cornerback, twenty
five interceptions in his career, Dylan,
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because it comes down, I mean, it's a fan vote is part of
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this, right, Yeah. So
if we're projecting and Corey was was not
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a popular dude, he probably should
have been more popular. I think,
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you know, we could go through
and there are those guys in every team,
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on every team in the history of
this city that you know, the
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people just decide. Now I'm out
on him. This town tried to do
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it to Joey Vado for like ten
years. Karen, we're out on joe
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We're out on a Hall of like
a Baseball Hall of Famer, a top
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three hitter of his generation. We're
out on him because he got on base
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too much, he walked too much. He did he didn't make enough outs.
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We wanted him to make more outs. We're watching it right now with
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Jonathan India, are we not fan
base is turning on Jonathan India. We
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saw it with Dusty Baker. We
saw it at UC with Mike Denbrock,
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like people, Well, it was
Daz for a while, and then it
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was den Brock, then it was
Mike Tressell. We haven't figured out in
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the new regime, who who the
UC fan base is gonna, you know,
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put up a hang up over the
dartboard, throw a dart set.
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There's always somebody in this town.
And it was Corey Dillon. It's kind
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of a malcontent, it's kind of
a pain in the rear end. But
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I'm guessing part of the reason he
was a pain in the rear end is
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his team stunk. The Bengals were
terrible from ninety seven to three, but
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he made the Pro Bowl three times. He's a team leader in attempts and
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yards and most one hundred yard games, and at one point he had the
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record for the biggest rushing game uh
in a in a in the NFL history,
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most rushing touchdowns in a game.
Had a ninety six yard touchdown against
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Detroit. It's the longest running team
history. I wonder if the people lean
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Parish in the voting just because he
was a little more liked than Corey Dillon.
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I think it probably should be Corey
Dillon lap him. I think Lapham
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has to go in playing one hundred
and forty games. I like people just
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don't I don't think people really when
they think lap they just think the loud
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guy on the radio, and he
was a pretty dang good player. All
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Right, we got a couple of
calls. Let's take a break. We'll
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start the top of the hour with
some phone calls. More after this right
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here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Are
you ready for some football? We are.
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This is Dave Laplan and you're listening
to the Home of the Bengals,
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ESPN fifteen thirty. Here we go
our number two Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
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Chad Brendall and promote Eger this week
next week. Thank you for choosing me.
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Red's back at it tonight taking on
the Diamondbacks should be a good one.
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Two very similar teams. Ben Lively
four and five with a three seventy
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two RA taking on Tommy Henry Tommy
Henry five and two three eighty nine ERA
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so uh should be an interesting pitching
matchup. Could be a lot of runs.
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Could be a lot of runs in
this series, especially Cincinnati. You
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had Ashcraft on Wednesday, abbot on
Thursday. So you go Lively Williamson and
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then dream Weaver who was two and
two with a seven ERA and the Reds
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are like nine and one and his
last ten starts. Some things in baseball
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just don't make a whole heck of
a lot of sense. Interesting lineup tonight,
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day Light Cruz leading off and batting
third, Senzel in the two hole
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in center, McClane at short,
batting third, Spencer Steer in the four
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spot, and left India playing second
and batting fifth, Joey Vado at first,
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batting six, Christian Incarnassi and strands
seventh, at DH, Tyler Stevenson
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eighth and catching will Benson and right
batting ninth. And like I said,
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been lively on the mount. All
right, let's get out to the phones,
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Jeff and Virginia. Let's talk Bengals, Ring of Honor and the Reds.
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Jeff, what's going on? My
friend? Happy Friday, Chad,
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Happy Friday. I get to do
this and then as soon as I'm done,
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sprint to the Centas Center and watch
the Bearcats and the TBT at six
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o'clock. Fun night. That's straight
up, that's straight up your alley though
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right, absolutely, that's my that's
my crew. Like as far in terms
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of like when I was really just
starting to like become like, you know,
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one of the primary you see guys
in town was Troy Copaine and Jacob
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Evans and Jared Cumberland and that group, so like, you know that that's
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a group of guys I got to
know really really well. It's been really
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cool to see him back in town
again this week, and it's been fun
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knowing like for a week in July
every summer I'm going to get to see
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those guys and tell old stories and
laughed so love it. Yeah. I
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meant to compliment Mo on his picture
with Lloyd Bats the other day, but
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I forgot to that cat could play
a touch before my time. But yeah,
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very good. It was really good. So I voted for Boomer and
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Lamar this year. Next year,
I'll probably vote for Lamar and Lap and
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I will always vote for James Brookes
over Corey Dylan until Corey is the better
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guy on the board. Yeah.
I mean the thing is Corey does hold
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the records like it's a ring of
honor. So I get caught up a
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little bit in that's some like mainly
because I think a lot of it is
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sour grapes on the baseball gate keeping
that the writers do just because if they
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didn't like somebody. And it's different
now with the steroids and all that,
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but they would keep guys out for
a year or two just to like prove
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a lesson that you were meeting,
you were a jerk to us, so
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we're not letting you in until you
don't get into we say so. I
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sour on that stuff a little bit, but I get it people just didn't
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like Corey Dolan as much because he
was a jerk. Here's an a hole,
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like that's just what it is.
That that doesn't bother me so much.
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I think if you ask Boomer who
was one of the key cogs on
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those Super Bowl teams, he'll tell
you James Brooks catching passes out of the
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backfield was invaluable. Um. The
only guy I won't vote for based on
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personality, ever, is probably Carson. I would say he's really left a
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bad taste in my mouth. Carl
Pickens, I added, Carl Pickens.
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Okay, okay, he apparently.
I'll see if I can get Skinny to
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tell the Carl Pickens story when he
comes on in a little bit, okay,
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okay, and on the Reds.
I think I don't ever root for
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the Braves, but I will be
this weekend, right obviously, just like
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everybody a little nervous about the starting
pitching, maybe we can outscore him over
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the worst of the weekend. Least
the bullpend got the day off yesterday.
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I'm gonna give Ellie through the weekend
to hit leadoff and show me that he
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can stop chasing pigeons, and then
you'll see what goes on from there.
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Yeah. I'm starting to get into
the camp of let just put India back
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at lead off. He was really
good at it. His eye is different,
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his patience is different when he's in
that one hole looking to get on
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base. I'm leaning back towards just
put him at lead off and figure it
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out from there. Yeah, Eli's
hit into some hard luck. I mean,
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he has not of rockets this week
right at guys, and the past
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couple of games he's been a little
bit more selective. But I just don't
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see him as being an answer at
leadoff. But you know, David Bell
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writes that lineup out every day with
his own thoughts in mine. That's for
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sure. That he does. Today
is today is different. Today's an interesting
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one. So we'll see how it
goes tonight. Enjoy your weekend. Thanks,
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Jeff, appreciate it. Bob,
Bob owns some Bob's. Bob is
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doing his own show. He wants
to talk to UC football. Hi,
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Bob, Hey, Chad, how
are you. I'm delightful as always.
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How about your stuff? I'm good
man. Hey, I hadn't I hadn't
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got to talk to you in quite
a while, and I was trying to
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hear about your wife. Thank you. Appreciate that me too. Yeah,
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Hey, um Ken, I've not
really kept up with it as good as
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I need to. Um, what
do you? And I hear a lot
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of people say that, you know, everybody's leaning on the defense this year.
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Um, one, do they have
a guy? I know, the
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kicker they got left? Um?
Do they have a guy that can make
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some field goals? And also,
um, from a wide receiver standpoint,
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my understanding is that the X quarterback
I got the wide receiver position. So
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tell me a little bit about him
if you can. Yeah. So,
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um, Evan, what had happened
was was Evan had hurt his shoulder in
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the middle of last season. Kept
it from everybody, didn't really talk about
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00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:15.360
it, but it affected his throwing
and when they got to springball this year,
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he tried to work through it and
it was just obvious that something was
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wrong. He had it looked at, and it was He had a couple
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options. Essentially, get surgery and
be out for an extended period of time
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and then come back and continue on
as quarterback, or let it rest up
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through the spring into the start of
the summer and give wide receiver a try
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and see how it felt, see
how it looked. My understanding is they
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did that at the beginning of summer
workouts. It went really well, and
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they they have decided to make the
full time switch to moving Evan to wide
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receiver. That's, you know,
obviously for a kid that's played quarterback for
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most of his life, that is
not in easy pill to swallow. But
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I think there's a realization that there's
an area there that he could help.
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They lost every wide receiver, every
scholarship wide receiver but one from a season
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ago. Chris Scott is the only
returning wide receiver that was that was on
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the team a year ago. So, um, you've got an entirely new
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00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:24.360
room there. Everybody's kind of scratching
and clawing for position. Now, you
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do have a couple of guys that
are gonna stand out. De Wiggins who
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transferred from Louisville and played at the
u UH Xavier Henderson that transferred in from
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Florida, Aaron Turner from Yukon.
Donovan Alie was a transfer from from Washington
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State. So you've got some guys
that have some some big time potential there.
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But that's a room Evan Prad can
can hopefully step into and make an
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early impact. UM. As far
as the kicker, they went u and
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got a transfer from Arizona State.
His name is Carter Brown. UH.
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He made eleven fourteen last year for
Arizona State. He was five of seven
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from forty plus, hit on all
twenty eight of his extra points, and
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was the PAC twelve Special Teams Player
of the Week once last year. So
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they did lose their kicker, but
they went out and got a pretty good
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one. Via. He's originally from
Pearland, Texas and played at Arizona State
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last year. He's a true he's
a sophomore, so he'll have three years
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of eligibility remaining. And tell me
this Chab the guy that's taken over at
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quarterback. Yeah, well come we
look for there. Emory Jones is a
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guy that played a lot at Florida, played a lot at Arizona State.
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He had a pretty good junior year
at Florida. Senior year at Arizona State,
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they tried to make him a pocket
passer and it didn't go great and
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he struggled some. And obviously that
was a dumpster fire of a situation at
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Arizona State last year. So he'll
be looking for some redemption and he'll be
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00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.480
looking to you know, he wasn't
a world beater at Florida, but the
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junior year of Florida was was solid
and promising for a guy that you thought,
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okay, he's on an upward trajectory
and then you know, the Arizona
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00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:19.559
State thing was just kind of a
disaster. Um, he can run,
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00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.559
he's a it can be a dual
threat quarterback. He was that in Florida.
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Like I said, at Arizona State
they just kept him in the pocket.
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00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:30.239
He is not a standard pocket passer. But in Scotts Adderfield's offense,
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Uh, there there is a place
for a quarterback with some mobility that can
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00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.719
can get out on the edge and
make some plays and make some guys miss
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00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:46.400
tell me this, Chad. Attendance
wise are they are they still doing well
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in terms of I mean, yeah, we we have any sellouts right now.
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They have not announced any of that
yet, but I mean, you're
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playing your first year in the Big
twelve. Ticket ticket sales are not going
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to be a problem. Yeah.
Good, good to hear. Yep.
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Uh, yeah, I know it's
gonna be a tough to hear, Chad.
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You know, as as much as
football has talked about it's really a
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basketball conference now, I think more
than anything and that, uh that that
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just looks like one heck of a
schedule they're gonna have on the on the
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basketball. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be back to you know,
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back to two thousand and ten eleven
twelve, when when you had you
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know, top fifteen teams rolling in
here once twice a week. Uh,
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it's gonna be back to that level. I think the you know, the
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00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:37.320
every team is projected to be inside
the top seventy five of the net uh
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for for this coming season. So, uh, it's gonna be a monster.
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So it should be should be a
lot of fun har Chad, Hey,
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good to hear um and uh,
thanks for thanks for the time.
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00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:53.599
Appreciate it, Bob, you have
a good night. Terren. You think
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00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:58.000
you think he's ever heard of Bearcat
Journal dot com. I'm appreciate you.
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00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:05.079
Yes, yeah, just that man
just cost me like one hundred bucks.
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00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.159
People are like, oh, just
have Bob call in on the radio channel.
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Give all the give give away all
the answers. Yeah, let's take
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a break. Richard Skinner. I'm
just kidding, Bob all in good fun.
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Uh, Richard Skinner up next?
Since had he's ESPN fifteen thirty,
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welcome back, since had he's ESPN
fifteen thirty. Champ and I went too
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long on spicy nacho doritos. If
you want some, you know some here.
609
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I'm good, okay, okay,
and from egger Mo'll be back,
610
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.480
uh and August sometime. I think
they're stuck with me until then. So
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00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:09.440
Chad Brendall show, get used to
it. Let's welcome in the guy that
612
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:15.000
I think. I'm pretty sure he
does more guest spots on iHeartMedia than than
613
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.639
anybody else in the city. I
think he's been on every show on the
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network on the entire platform. This
week, and he's got beef with Tony
615
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:29.840
Pike none other than Local twelve Digital
content creative producer Richard Skinner. Skenny,
616
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.280
how are you I got no beef
with Tony Pike? Or do? He
617
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:36.239
just needs to follow up better,
that's all. He's got beef with you.
618
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.639
I know he does. Weeah,
we talked last night. We're all
619
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:45.400
good. We're all good. He
wasn't happy today when I told him I
620
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:50.519
was having you on he thought he
looked at me like I was betraying him.
621
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.639
Well, he needs to be a
man of his word, is all
622
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:58.320
I can tell you that. Okay, you are. You are absolutely a
623
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.239
man of your word. I was
I got ca up working late last night.
624
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.320
I forgot to text you. They
go, I texted you at like
625
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:07.079
twelve thirty uh and and you got
me got back to me first thing this
626
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.719
morning. I was twelve fifty three. I will yeah, yeah, Well,
627
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:14.320
I like it was one of those
I was. I got done.
628
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:17.920
So I had radio yesterday, then
we had UM. They had the TBT
629
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:22.079
and UC guys scrimmage, and then
I got home and did a podcast and
630
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.559
then hung out with my daughter for
a little while. And next thing you
631
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:28.480
know, it's midnight, Like you
remember how those days are, Like all
632
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:30.800
of a sudden you look up and
you're like, how the hell did it
633
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:32.760
get so late? And I forgot
to text Skinny if you would come on
634
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:37.039
the show tomorrow. Yeah, no
question I did. I did a Reds
635
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:43.639
game into into a couple of episodes
of The Righteous Gemstones. I got my
636
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.360
second shingle shot yesterday and it took
effect about nine thirty and I was gone
637
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:49.280
until about five in the morning.
That's why I was able to wake up
638
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.440
sortlyday. Yeah, how was How
was the Reds game with the crew?
639
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:57.760
I heard that was a motley crew
yesterday at the Reds game it was George
640
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.440
Vogel, Tom Gamble, myself and
a friend of time. We get a
641
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.320
good touch to that, right feel
like, And I gotta tell you,
642
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.920
the slow that Ellie de la Cruz
made is still one of the greats of
643
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:13.639
all time. I mean it was
a missile. Well, the funny point
644
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:15.159
is, I'm you know, you
know when you can still you know how
645
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:20.199
a play unfolds right, And initially
you see Benson Bobbleton in left field.
646
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.079
He's trying to get it too quickly
because he he was gonna make a relay,
647
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.079
and I'm kind of watching. The
guy's almost a third about this point,
648
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:28.760
and he's not a fast run.
Everybody's still almost a third. By
649
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:30.880
time he throws it, he's about
two steps around third. Ellie caught it
650
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:36.320
and thought for a second, then
rifles it and rifles going to hop to
651
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:37.880
the folk side of the bag.
He still has plenty of time home plays
652
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:42.679
play. He's not a swing back
and tag. It was insane how fast
653
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:47.159
that ball was. There are just
things he does naturally like he's still there's
654
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:51.199
still a long way to go in
him, like being a baseball player.
655
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:53.199
Yeah, that's not a knock on
him. He's just twenty one. But
656
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:58.239
there are things naturally he does that
don't make any sense. Well, you
657
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.480
know, and there there's been some
this is about him running them out of
658
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:02.960
innings. I'm gonna live with him
running him at them out of inning because
659
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:06.159
he's running them into more wins,
right, you know. And I know
660
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.039
the play at second base yesterday the
force player where he went in standing up
661
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:12.400
and then round at the base because
he was going so fast and they were
662
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.239
able to get him in a run
down and tag him out. The two
663
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:16.639
things there, Hey, he does
need to slide, although b he could
664
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:21.800
argue he's out if he slides the
other part to it. How many guys
665
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.719
beat that out to not may even
be a force out. No, ready,
666
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:27.719
that's the dude, that's what's what
you could argue, Yeah, he
667
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.599
should not running past the base.
I'll give you some of those things.
668
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:32.199
But nobody else gets to the base
in time. It's it's an easy for
669
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:37.480
it to those flip force outs that
comes naturally to every team a thousand times
670
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:39.079
a year, and nobody comes close
to beating that out. Then guy does
671
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:43.480
the false pop up slide into second
and it all looks like it's a hustle
672
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:45.719
play. No he legit beat it
out and then realize, oh crap,
673
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.559
I've kind of gone too far with
this. He's still pack those mistakes at
674
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.880
this point. He's still fast.
You see it when he when he slides
675
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:57.400
head first into in the second,
like there's been three or four times that,
676
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.480
Like he's he's going so fast that
his whole by it's like he's on
677
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:07.960
a slipping slide almost and on dirt. That's can you can you there's no
678
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:10.840
major league fields that have this in
the in the sliding pits but you've seen
679
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:15.840
this. I'm sure the flourn Shawls
or Thomas Moore Stadium were, especially high
680
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:17.119
school kids that played there. It's
it's hard to learn how to slide,
681
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:20.800
and a lot of them will slide
completely. By the way, have you
682
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:22.760
made him sliding on one of those
things. He'd be in left field,
683
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:28.679
he would be he would be a
left field yet he'd be somewhere down the
684
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:34.159
third base line, like at a
bullpen near you. With the bullpen,
685
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.719
I started my slide. I started
my slide before second base. Yeah,
686
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:39.719
we just it was. It was
literally like a slipping side. I just
687
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:44.039
ended up. It is ended up
in foul territory down the left field line
688
00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:47.480
somewhere. And I won't be honestly, there are so few players in this
689
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:52.559
game that I've ever watched did I
go. I'm just watching him sometimes that
690
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:57.239
you know, you could argue Junior
in his heyday, maybe fern It bat
691
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.639
here and there and what he could
do in center field, but those days
692
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.400
were gone because of the Kingdom,
you know turf that he played on all
693
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:06.679
of those years. Eric Davis is
probably the closest too, because you know,
694
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:09.559
I was at games back to back
nights in nineteen eighty seven where he
695
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:13.440
robbed Jack Clark of home runs and
also hit a home run. I mean,
696
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:16.840
he just did stupid things like that. But every game this guy does
697
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:21.159
something, Bo go Bo. We
didn't get to watch him all the time,
698
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.079
but it felt like every night Bo
Jackson did something. Ye that was
699
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:30.400
like, oh God, how does
how was that physically humanly possible? Home
700
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:35.159
run? Yeah, home run for
seventy feet, going home, going first
701
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.960
to home in record time, throwing
run from the outfield wall to home,
702
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:42.800
played on the fly. Yeah,
Casually snapping a bat over his head like
703
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:46.159
it was a toothpick. Like you've
seen guys late, let's slam that thing
704
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:51.119
into their leg and you see their
first reaction is, oh, that's hard.
705
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:55.039
That hurts. Bo was just like
like he just snapped a little a
706
00:54:55.079 --> 00:55:01.159
twig over his helmet. Um on
the aggression, Skinny. I don't think
707
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:06.920
you can do anything about it because
it's who they are one. But I
708
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.679
think what you have to also understand
is with a young team, they are
709
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:15.280
going when they go through a stretch
like that where they have three or four
710
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:19.320
games where it's just they're not getting
on base, and that's the hardest thing
711
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.559
on a team that's overly aggressive.
If you can't get anybody on, you
712
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.400
don't have any way to be aggressive. So then they get somebody on and
713
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:30.400
then there's a little bit of panic
that we gotta we gotta get something going
714
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.360
here, and that's when mistakes come
in. I don't think you can rein
715
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.000
it in, and I think you
can maybe teach them in some places to
716
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:38.880
be a little bit smarter. And
like we talked about yesterday, if I
717
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:43.880
see another contact play from third on
a ball to the shortstop, might I
718
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:47.760
might take and throw this monitor out
the window here at at at Death Mountain.
719
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:52.920
But I just I don't think you
can relind the aggression. You have
720
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.480
to let them go. No,
I'd like to see them run down to
721
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.679
nothing. I mean, run yourself
back into the game with with with potentially
722
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.360
base and the base And I'm with
you on that. I truly think that
723
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:05.960
that's what the year market this team. And yeah, I mean that that
724
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.559
stretch of games where they didn't score
is because they didn't get on base,
725
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:10.800
and then then they didn't get on
base, they weren't allowed to run and
726
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:14.960
couldn't run, and so I do
think that factored into the equation for them.
727
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:16.599
I think that's what this team is
all about, is run and moving,
728
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:20.920
and they've got enough power now to
keep that part on us too,
729
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:23.039
where they can occasionally if you need
to sit back and need a three run
730
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.920
home run, like Christian Rcasinos ran
the other night of Okay, we're gonna
731
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:29.400
let him swing away. We're not
going to be stupid here, and he
732
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:30.519
can put one in the seats.
Yeah, you got guys that can do
733
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:35.000
that too. Which yeah, again, it was it was really weird that
734
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:38.079
stretched from the Milwaukee game to the
first Frisco game. But I think it's
735
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:40.760
more of an anomaly. I thought
it was a one game anomaly like I
736
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:44.840
talked about last week, but I
did. I mean, this offense just
737
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.679
has too much, too much going
forward. Yeah, I just think people
738
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:52.119
need to kind of relax a little
bit, like they're they're still young.
739
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:55.440
Uh And and you know I did. I meant to use this yesterday and
740
00:56:55.480 --> 00:57:00.159
I didn't, but I also went
I almost went to an old Jai and
741
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:07.400
Aaron Marty as team's gonna hit,
Marty. This team's gonna hit, and
742
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.039
they're gonna hit. Team's gonna score. Yeah, and they're gonna hit.
743
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:12.639
They're gonna and they're gonna score.
And that's that. That's the part that
744
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:15.199
it doesn't overly worry me. I
do think it's important the way they bounced
745
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:19.679
back the last two games, because
I thought that I got that Tuesday night
746
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:23.400
second lost them the main game loss
was almost a little devastating, where man,
747
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:25.920
we score all those runs and can't
win, and now it's not the
748
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:30.360
six in a row, and for
young guys or what we're doing is is
749
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:31.880
it right? Are we doing things
the right way? You know? Why
750
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:35.159
is this not working for us?
Why are we suddenly losing? All we've
751
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:37.199
done is one since we come up, um, and that's part of this
752
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.079
game two is handling that. So
to see them bounce back the way they
753
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:45.159
did the last two games and what
Andrew Abbot did again on the mound,
754
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:47.559
um, you know, is a
real positive. So as much as it
755
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:51.480
stinks that they slipped the two and
a half games back, the sky is
756
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:54.440
not falling yet and still good things
or a hit for not just now but
757
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:59.960
for years to come. Well,
and also you mentioned Abbott who was spectacular,
758
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:04.599
but for Ashcraft as well, because
now you feel like, okay,
759
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:09.719
maybe those top two spots are solidified. Uh, for the for the short
760
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:15.440
term at least. And then Lively
has been Okay, he hasn't He hasn't
761
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:20.119
had any of the stretches like we've
seen dream we were Weaver have uh.
762
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:22.400
And then you know, Williamson has
has been you know what a fifth guy
763
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:27.079
kind of looks like in most places? Yeah, no, right, and
764
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:30.239
that that's that's the part. If
you're going to get two hammer starts,
765
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:32.119
um, most times, that's also
going to save the bullpen too. And
766
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:35.880
we talked about this last week.
And maybe there's other starts you do lean
767
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.599
heavily into the bullpen, yeah,
um. Or you let Luke Weaver give
768
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:42.400
up his flour runs in five innings
and you have a night where you score
769
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.440
five runs and are able to win. So um yeah. And again that's
770
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:50.960
not the long term solution for this
team is to have been Lively and Luke
771
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:53.400
Weaver and probably even Williamson in the
in the rotation. But that's not supposed
772
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:55.800
to be the long term plan.
It's it is what it is for now,
773
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:58.599
and you got to get if you're
that ways to win around it.
774
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:05.599
Let's get to this Diamondbacks series.
Corbyn Carroll, it sounded like his arm
775
00:59:05.679 --> 00:59:10.760
fell off and now he's back.
He's still playing. They are very similar
776
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:15.559
to this Reds team. They don't
have a ton of power. They make
777
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:20.480
contact, they move runners, they're
aggressive. Their pitching is shaky but has
778
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:24.159
been enough to hold on. Like
this is almost like the Spider Man meme
779
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:30.039
of two young teams like looking at
each other in the mirror. Yeah,
780
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:31.880
and who blinks first? Right?
Right? Obviously? You know, by
781
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.920
by the end of this weekend,
the Reds could actually be past the Diamondbacks
782
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:38.480
for one of those wildcard spots where
Arizona is right now. So this isn't
783
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:42.599
for division race, obvious, these
are in separate divisions, but this does
784
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:45.880
have playoff implications, So which young
team blinks first? I would hope the
785
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:50.039
Reds have gotten the momentum of the
last couple of games and can carry that
786
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.519
into the weekend and win this weekend
series and pull themselves into that because as
787
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:57.039
much as we it felt like this
was going to be National League Central or
788
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.960
Bust to make the playoffs, maybe
it's not gonna be. Maybe you do
789
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:04.559
continue to win it up, and
god love Milwaukee, maybe they do too,
790
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.239
and you know, you end up
being a wildcard team. I mean
791
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.280
if you're still a mess playoff race
in September, it's still you talk about
792
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:13.880
way I had a schedule. It's
absurdly way I had a schedule. I'm
793
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:15.960
not saying you don't. You'll take
him run with it and hopefully you you
794
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:19.679
finished the deal. But I mean, this is so far I had a
795
01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:22.800
schedule. It's silly. Yeah,
it's it's unthinkable for them to be where
796
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.599
they're at Bengal's Ring of Honor.
Did they get it right with Boomer and
797
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:30.559
Chad? No, they got it
right with Chad. And I know I'm
798
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:36.199
gonna get get cramped off for this. I just I this is gonna sound
799
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.719
terrible. I wonder if they really
take the vote into account. I honestly
800
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:42.800
think they just pick them themselves.
I really believe that. It's terrible for
801
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:45.320
me to say. I know that, but how Lamar Parish is not in
802
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:50.920
It's just it's beyond me. He
is a Hall of Fame cornerback. Go
803
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:53.360
look him up, folks. I
just promise anybody not that to be all
804
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:58.760
end all. But Pro Football Reference
has imlicted as an all century or all
805
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.960
decade, rather shooting a century all
decade cornerback of the seventies. That's pretty
806
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:07.079
high praise. And that was in
an era where the Steelers had great corners,
807
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.400
the Raiders had great corners. I
mean, that's that's high praise.
808
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:14.599
Plus he was a great return man, and I just this is what I
809
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:16.639
think they've gotten this wrong. I'm
glad they've done it. I'm happy they're
810
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:20.760
doing it. I'm happy they're continuing
to do it. But it should have
811
01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:22.760
been an initial ten man class to
clean up some of the older guys,
812
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:29.880
at least like something bigger than four. Yeah, they let Ken Riley die
813
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:32.440
without him being acknowledged for that,
and I don't want that to happen to
814
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:36.800
Lamar Parrish. I think that'll be
wholly unfair. You. Lamar had a
815
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.320
had a squabble with the old man
Paul Brown, which led to him being
816
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:43.079
traded to Washington, so his tenure
here didn't end great, and then he
817
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:45.280
went into Washington, had another couple
of Pro Bowl years. The dude is
818
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:50.880
was Absurdum. This is probably blasphemy, and I'm glad Ken Riley's in the
819
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:52.400
Hall of Fame, but Lamar Parish
is a better cor back than Ken Riley
820
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.960
or even a lot of interceptions.
It's because they threw away from Lamar Parish
821
01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:00.639
at ken Riley. Lamar Parish was
spectacular. I think Boomer certainly deserves to
822
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:05.039
get in, but um, I'm
just not in that camped that he's even
823
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.840
I honestly, and I wrote a
column what wasn't last week or two weeks
824
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:10.960
ago in response to Corey Dillon's beef
about you know, not being in the
825
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.800
Ring of Honor and in the Hall
of Fame, and I the Colins,
826
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:16.840
I agree he should be in the
Hall of Fame, but he shouldn't be
827
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:20.079
in the Ring of Honor yet,
but should be told. Honestly, I
828
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:22.199
put Corey Dillon in ahead before I
put Boomer's size and in. I really
829
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:28.079
would wow. So so what would
you go next year with Lamar Parish and
830
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:31.719
Corey Dillon over lap? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, no, Actually,
831
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:35.400
in fact, I think I wrote
that Corey, Well, think about I
832
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:37.639
would have Corey Dillon after James Brooks
because James Brooks was a more complete back.
833
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:43.800
They're now the second person that said
they would have they would have Brooks
834
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:47.280
over Dylan. Yeah, James James
Brooks is a second leading rusher and team
835
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:51.960
history behind Corey Dillon. He had
far more receptions, far more receiving yards,
836
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:54.800
better average per carry, and I
know what offensive lines they work behind,
837
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:58.119
and I realized Corey ran again stack
boxes. So I don't want to
838
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:00.039
take away from courts. Like I
said, I think he's got a a
839
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:02.280
jit case for the Hall of Fame. But some of that legit case comes
840
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:07.559
after going into England and having a
sixteen hundred yard year another or an All
841
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:08.800
Pro year and winning a Super Bowl
ring. I think that kind of was
842
01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:12.239
a nice sweet boom for him to
put it on it. It gives him
843
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:15.360
the super Bowl credentials. Um,
but with the Bengals, I mean,
844
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:19.679
James Brooks was as good a blockers
there's ever been at the running back position
845
01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.360
for this organization. So to me, next year, next year, I'm
846
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:28.400
going James Brooks and Lamar Parish.
All right. That's uh, that's very
847
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:31.360
interesting. I'm sure we will chat
next week. The start it's here,
848
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:36.639
skinny, We've made it. It
is through summer. The start of training
849
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:39.880
camp next week. Yeah, yes, indeed, it's It makes for some
850
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:43.760
some long and sweaty days. I
know that. How many balls a mock
851
01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:47.239
turtle soup for you? I'm just
so hey, listen, the meal is
852
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:50.519
perfect. It's a it's a nice
one good. A little cup of mock
853
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:52.920
turtle soup. They give you a
little piece of salmon, a little piece
854
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:55.400
of steak which is nice, little
little vegetable medley on the side, and
855
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:59.760
a little orne Sherbert for dessert.
Is that they do that thing right?
856
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:01.920
Give him credit to that on Monday
the mock turtle Soup Day, just just
857
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.360
for old time's sake. Can I
hear you say fudge cake? Fudge cake?
858
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:15.079
Appreciate for some All right, I'm
not sure what day, but I'm
859
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:19.480
it's load management. It's the end
of load management summer for MO. So
860
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:23.519
I'm here all week next week and
I'll try to get you the request before
861
01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:27.039
midnight next time. That's all good, brother, any time, Thanks,
862
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:31.760
Kenny, appreciate it. Richard Skinner, digital content editor for Local twelve.
863
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:36.639
You can find him at Local twelve. Skinny and uh he's always a good
864
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:40.639
friend, even if him and Tony
have beef. Right now, let's take
865
01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:59.400
a break more after this Since that
easy ESPN fifteen thirty go a little out
866
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:18.039
green headline A night that was when
Sanging was sanging? He can I mean
867
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:24.480
we're about to have a Friday.
My goodness, you're going tonight too.
868
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:28.199
No, no, I'm not going
tonight, not just going tomorrow. I
869
01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:30.480
can't afford to go both nights.
Yeah, I mean, you know Katie
870
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:34.000
can't take care of you. I
thought Katie could could take us to anything.
871
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:41.199
I didn't ask fair. Oh,
you gotta ask. I've been working
872
01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:43.960
with Katie for twenty years. You
gotta ask. She's not gonna offer anything.
873
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:51.840
You got to ask. Oh,
so Taran and light of uh and
874
01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:56.440
Look, this is what n I
L is supposed to be about. We
875
01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:00.119
knew when when n I L was
introduced in college sports, what do is
876
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:04.519
gonna end up being about? It
was gonna end up being recruiting inducements and
877
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:11.559
now transfer portal inducements and very little
about the current players on the current roster
878
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:17.519
uh and and and what their uh
their marketability is name image likeness. That's
879
01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:24.000
what it's supposed to be about.
So we've already seen Dante Corleone uh get
880
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:31.519
a local UH bar and restaurant to
to introduce the Godfather burger and Dante gets
881
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:39.880
a kickback on that. And now
he's introduced the Godfather Pizza. He's partnered
882
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:45.920
with a Clifton restaurant meos Uh bacon, pepperoni, halapenos, and ground beef.
883
01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:49.400
You can grab one starting today at
MEO's on Shore Vine and Clifton.
884
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:57.039
Uh, which sounds pretty good.
It sounds pretty good. If there was
885
01:06:57.079 --> 01:07:03.239
a Tarin Bland, what would the
Terror and Bland pizza looked like? Uh,
886
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:09.320
pepperoni, bacon, ham, exstra
cheese. Okay, so I don't
887
01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:12.840
likee G I'm not either. I
want meat on my pizza. I don't
888
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.320
I don't want crunchy like I don't
want I'm not a veggie person on my
889
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:20.840
pizza. So I think I'm like
legitimately, I think I'm just like a
890
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:26.639
pepperoni and sausage. I think that's
like, like that's the fastball right down
891
01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:30.719
the middle for me, the brendle, the Bearcat Journal would just be pepperoni
892
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:32.039
and sausage. Is that Is that
too boring? Do I have to come
893
01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:36.079
up with something like different to put
on there? Or can I just beast
894
01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:41.280
like the straight fastball down the middle? Yeah, that's what it's called the
895
01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:45.679
brendle, right? Is what you
like? Right now? We could if
896
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.320
we did like like a like a
burger, I could you know, bacon,
897
01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:54.679
uh, sunny side up or an
over easy egg that's always good to
898
01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:59.800
me. Maybe a crispy piece of
ghetta on there. I could do that
899
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:02.119
for a burger where I'd really get
down. I think my lane would be
900
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:05.840
like my own sandwich, Like I
want, I want a sandwich place Tarran.
901
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:13.000
I want to make sandwiches. What
would the Tarran Bland sandwich be?
902
01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:17.920
Samost simple when it comes to burger
Yeah, simple guy, Yes, catch
903
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:21.920
up mustard piggles simple? Simple?
Playing simple? How about how about like
904
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:26.800
a you're not a cold cut guy? Are you not? Really? Yeah?
905
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:29.079
I've asked you a couple of times
if you want like you want Jersey
906
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:31.680
mics or something, and you've always
been kind of kind of lukewarm on that.
907
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:36.239
Yeah. I mean what this all
is leading to? Dante Corleone has
908
01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:43.760
to open his own spot in Cincinnati
called the Godfather, doesn't he eventually,
909
01:08:43.880 --> 01:08:46.920
like after after the playing days?
Yes, Like could you imagine if he
910
01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:51.039
put one of those in Coleraine that
place? Like he's he's one of the
911
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:57.319
Like he's one of the most well
known college football players in the country right
912
01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:01.560
now. He finished numb number one
in PFF number one defender in the country.
913
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:06.439
Last year on Pro Football Focus,
there are you know, the people
914
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:10.720
that do these type of things are
calling Cincinnati the best defensive line in the
915
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:15.600
Big twelve. They're doing that because
of Dante Corleone like that. To me,
916
01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:20.239
it's awesome to see Nil going for
what like this is what it's supposed
917
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:26.319
to be. Local businesses, local
you know, whatever, restaurants, car
918
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:30.800
dealerships, you name it. Taking
local players. Not necessarily local players,
919
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:34.560
were just taking players from the local
team and using their name, image and
920
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:39.840
likeness to promote the business, to
get fans, signal to fans of those
921
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:45.680
places to come in and patronize your
business, because your business is all about
922
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:49.640
the local college team. That's what
it's supposed to be about, and we
923
01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:56.399
see we barely see any of it. So to see Dante kind of being
924
01:09:56.439 --> 01:10:00.119
able to take himself down that path, I think is really cool. Are
925
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:05.439
you down if I bring in a
Godfather next Friday? Oh? Most definitely?
926
01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:11.479
Okay? You're good with the hallepenos? Are you gonna take them off?
927
01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:15.920
I'm made. I made try like
a bite with a lapenoci house he
928
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:17.279
was kicking for, but ultimately might
end up taking him off. I might
929
01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:23.039
need to. Obviously, I've worked
in conjunction with the fine folks at Mio's,
930
01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:26.800
Rich and Kelly for for many years. I might have to ask,
931
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:31.399
like, are you guys putting Are
you guys putting like firecracker hallapenos in there?
932
01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:35.319
Or are you putting like nacho hallapenos
in there? There's a big difference,
933
01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:40.520
right right. We're gonna find out
next Friday. Do we eat now
934
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:44.159
if we do this, do we
eat it on air or do we eat
935
01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:45.720
it before the show and then talk
about it when the show starts. No,
936
01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:48.520
before the shows and you give a
full report when the show starts.
937
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:53.239
There we go, let's take a
break. Brendman and Jones on baseball.
938
01:10:53.279 --> 01:10:56.960
Coming up next right here, Cincinnati's
ESPN fifteen thirty. This is Dave Lapwock
939
01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:13.159
and you're listening to the Home of
the Bengals, ESPN fifty thirty. Here
940
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:23.000
we go, Final hour of the
day, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Chad
941
01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:51.039
Brendle in in form Oeger Sorry,
Red's Diamondbacks coming up tonight, First pitch
942
01:11:51.199 --> 01:12:00.119
at seven ten. Derek Lively on
the mound for the Reds. Tommy Henry
943
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:06.119
on the mound for Arizona Tomorrow four
ten first pitch Brandon Williamson on the Hill
944
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:15.319
TBD for the Diamondbacks, and then
UH Sunday Luke Dreamweaver two and two seven
945
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:25.359
e r A flat seven as the
Reds close out the series TBD for Arizona
946
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:29.960
on Saturday and Sunday. We joined
at the bottom of the hour by Nick
947
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:35.840
Pokoro, Diamondbacks beat writer for the
Arizona Republic and accentral dot Com. Get
948
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:40.840
a get a look at kind of
a I'm telling you this, this team
949
01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:47.119
is the Reds. That they're young, they're fast, they're aggressive, They've
950
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:54.920
got the rookie of the year at
this point in uh In Corbyn Carroll,
951
01:12:55.600 --> 01:13:02.920
and they have a team that is
is dangerous in the NLST right there about
952
01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:08.920
even with the Giants, a little
bit behind the Dodgers, and for them,
953
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:15.319
you gotta you gotta be impressed by
the toughness of Corbyn Carroll because it
954
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:17.800
sounded like, with his shoulder injury
a week ago that he was going to
955
01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:21.479
be out for a while. His
shoulders been bothering him for a little while.
956
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:26.279
He had been fighting through it,
but he took a really awkward swing
957
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.239
and you just thought man, they're
gonna they're gonna have to sit him for
958
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:33.239
a little bit. He hasn't really
missed any time now. He hasn't been
959
01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:40.119
as good over this this small stretch
as he was previously. But they just
960
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:45.199
took two or three from the Braves, so they're coming in hot and this
961
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:48.800
is a big test for the Reds. They are two and five so far
962
01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:53.399
in this seven game homestand the only
two wins he swept by. The Brewers
963
01:13:53.880 --> 01:14:00.439
lose the first two for a six
game losing streak coming out of the All
964
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:02.840
Star break. In and out of
the All Star Break, they get two
965
01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:10.000
against San Francisco to close the series, and now you're you can This can
966
01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:16.039
go a couple of ways. You
win this series, you go four and
967
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:20.840
six on the homestand it's it's not
great, but given that you were playing
968
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:28.840
three teams all deep deep in contention
for the playoffs, it's not a disaster.
969
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.600
If you take two out of three, you went all three. If
970
01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:35.159
they get to five and five on
this homestand after it's starting oh and five,
971
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:42.079
miraculous. But if you lose this
series, you go three and seven,
972
01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:46.279
or you get swept even worse,
you go two and eight on a
973
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:54.319
homestand to open the All Star break
when you're in contention, I might take
974
01:14:54.399 --> 01:15:00.880
next week off, Tarn might take
next week off. They come out of
975
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:03.960
this weekend two and eight on this
homestand oh, Monday's not gonna be fun.
976
01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:13.640
We're gonna be talking a lot about
TBT if that's what happens this weekend.
977
01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:19.840
Wolf. So hopefully they can continue
to play well, but you always
978
01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:24.560
have to be just a little bit
concerned when you get to that lively Williamson
979
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:34.159
Weaver back of the rotation. Hopefully
the bats can stay active because you've got
980
01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:39.439
a decent picture for the Diamondbacks today, but who knows what you're gonna have
981
01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:45.359
on on Saturday and Sunday. Beat
the overs, although I'm sure the overs
982
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:50.920
guess what Vegas is thinking the same
thing we're thinking. Those overs, you're
983
01:15:51.119 --> 01:15:57.680
not catching them at eight and a
half. I can promise you that eleven,
984
01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:04.359
twelve, thirteen, do that research
for me this weekend, Tarn.
985
01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:10.079
When we get back here on Monday, what was the highest over in this
986
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:16.199
series for the weekend Sunday? With
Weaver? You might be able to you
987
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:20.520
might if if that's really a bullpen
day for the Diamondbacks. You might be
988
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:24.560
able to set that over at like
seventeen and a half, and I'd still
989
01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:34.359
I'd still be tempted to take it. Take a look at the Red's lineup
990
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:42.279
for today. Ellie Day La Cruz
leading off, playing third, Nickson Zell
991
01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:46.760
in for TJ Friedelson Zel batting second
and then center, Matt McLean at short
992
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:51.840
hitting third, Spencer steering left in
the cleanup spot, Jonathan India batting fifth
993
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:57.640
at second, Joey Vado at first, batting six, Christian Incarnassi and Strand
994
01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:00.960
as you're designated hitter in the seventh
spot, Tyler's Stevenson bat's eighth and is
995
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:06.600
behind the dish, and Will Benson
batting ninth in right field. And it
996
01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:12.800
feels like Will Benson is now your
everyday right fielder, or at least most
997
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:17.159
days. Most days right fielder getting
getting to go against the lefty today.
998
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:24.800
But the Reds, other than Benson
and and Vado going heavy with the rights
999
01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:28.960
right now, the over is a
over under ten and a half. Yeah,
1000
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:34.880
I mean those today today, it's
not terrible. Lively and Henry both
1001
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:41.239
have eras under four. Lively four
and five, Henry five and two.
1002
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:47.560
So I didn't expect today to be
outrageous like Sunday. Sunday's gonna be up
1003
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:53.960
there Sunday. I mean, when's
the last time. I think once in
1004
01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:59.119
the last like ten starts, Weavers
has had what, you know, aqual
1005
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:02.000
It's somewhat to a quality start.
Generally, it's like four innings, five
1006
01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:09.039
runs, and then the Reds win
thirteen to ten. Particularly somehow remembered how
1007
01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:14.880
to hit. Yeah, they really
like Luke Weaver. Or it's just that
1008
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:19.319
he tends to go against every every
five hole that the Reds are facing,
1009
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:28.359
and you know it works out better
for him that way. I suppose you
1010
01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:30.680
definitely don't want him going up against
it. Ace lose nine to one.
1011
01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:41.159
Let's let's talk about Jonathan India quickly
and we'll carry this over into the second
1012
01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:44.880
segment. But the Reds are gonna
have a decision to make at the trade
1013
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:49.079
deadline. This is not me saying
the Reds need to trade Jonathan India.
1014
01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:57.760
This is me talking out loud on
what are the most valuable assets the Reds
1015
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:03.960
have? Sure some of it depending
on right now, you're probably gonna be
1016
01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:11.520
trading with teams that are out of
contention or don't exactly have the brightest future
1017
01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:17.359
ahead of them in terms of what
direction they're going to go. So they're
1018
01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:26.359
looking for young, controllable prospects,
and to do that, you're gonna have
1019
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:30.560
to get rid of probably guys in
your top fifteen, top twenty in your
1020
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:33.199
farm system. If you're you're looking
to make a big splash, you're talking
1021
01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:38.800
big names. If you're looking to
play the middle or back of the market,
1022
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:43.000
you know you can probably do a
better job trading guys. And you
1023
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:49.000
know that that eight to seventeen range
depending on the control and is it a
1024
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:53.439
one year rental, is it a
a is it a three month rental,
1025
01:19:53.520 --> 01:20:00.359
whatever the case may be. But
if you're gonna go get something substantial from
1026
01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:04.079
from a team that's not the Oakland
days, it will just use them.
1027
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:11.159
They're not looking to take on money, they're they're looking for guys that aren't
1028
01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:15.039
major league ready, guys that they
can spend a year to developing and then
1029
01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:19.800
have six years of control. But
if you're trading with a team with a
1030
01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:28.319
pulse like they're gonna want, they're
gonna want something, and right now you're
1031
01:20:28.439 --> 01:20:35.720
essentially one guy over in terms of
starter level, starter quality players for this
1032
01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:40.119
Red's team. We've seen Spencer Steer
good night off. We've seen Matt McLean
1033
01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:43.399
get a night off. We've seen
Jonathan India get a night off. Eventually,
1034
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:48.680
a night off, day off is
coming for Ellie Christian Incarnaci on strand
1035
01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:55.800
Joey Vado. The way that this
is setting up, you've got a lot
1036
01:20:55.800 --> 01:21:01.000
of guys that are interchangeable, and
you can move things around and try to
1037
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:08.279
keep everybody fresh. Baseball players don't
love that. They want to play every
1038
01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:11.199
day. They want to stay in
rhythm, and even if they're out of
1039
01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:14.800
rhythm and you give them a day
off, they want to get back in
1040
01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:19.840
there and be at the plate four
times a night. Jonathan India has said,
1041
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:29.960
when it comes to the idea of
being moved around, I hate it.
1042
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:32.920
So you're gonna have a decision to
make. Jonathan India will be up
1043
01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:41.159
for arbitration next year. Is he
the trade chip that can maybe bring you
1044
01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:45.359
the most? He is a Rookie
of the Year two years ago. He's
1045
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:46.960
had some success this year. He's
been in a rough patch for a little
1046
01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:56.880
while, but that doesn't eliminate teams
from seeing value in him. So that's
1047
01:21:56.920 --> 01:22:00.319
going to be the question. That
Nick Kral has to answer. Do I
1048
01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:05.239
want to get this back to even
now that you've brought up Christian and Carnacion
1049
01:22:05.319 --> 01:22:11.680
strand who you need to play if
he's going to be up here, do
1050
01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:14.720
you look to move in India or
do you say you know what? Right
1051
01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:18.560
now? I don't want to upset
the apple cart. Jonathan India is a
1052
01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:26.039
loud voice in that clubhouse. He
is somebody that people trust. He is
1053
01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:30.479
somebody that the young guys look up
to. Do you worry that if you
1054
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:36.560
do something with India in season that
it kind of throws off the chemistry a
1055
01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:45.680
little bit? It's an interesting question. I don't think you worry about it.
1056
01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:47.479
I think if you get a trade
in Jonathan India is the guy that
1057
01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:51.319
can bring you the most, maybe
you have to make a really tough decision
1058
01:22:51.359 --> 01:23:00.159
there. Or if you don't think
that he's to bring back what you hope,
1059
01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:04.800
you think is going to get you
over the hump and maybe you take
1060
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:09.359
you get through this season and you
revisit in the off season. But I
1061
01:23:09.359 --> 01:23:14.319
think it's fair to look at this
long term. With who they've gotten the
1062
01:23:14.319 --> 01:23:18.560
big leagues and with who's coming behind
them, he might be the odd man
1063
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:27.560
out the flip side to that when
we come back Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
1064
01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:34.039
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1065
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:51.159
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1066
01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:55.399
Want to pick the teen or won't
you nobody? That's the head I'll
1067
01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:59.199
lead you back into drug with ten
must seal say my favorite for the back
1068
01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:06.479
end of the show, appreciate finishing
my point on Jonathan India and the potential
1069
01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:11.840
of trading him. There would also
be a segment of this fan base that
1070
01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:18.039
would that would be livid that that
would see this as you're selling Jonathan India
1071
01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:24.119
because he's got arbitration coming up and
you don't want to pay him, And
1072
01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:29.439
that now might not be fully wrong. I think it's a little misguided in
1073
01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:34.960
that you're moving him just potentially because
there are guys that you you feel are
1074
01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:42.439
better in his particular role. But
I would get why fans would feel that
1075
01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:45.800
way for a franchise that they're just
now starting to warm back up to.
1076
01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:53.439
It would make some sense. So
the Reds have to be careful there because
1077
01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:59.479
they've they've regained fan trust. And
if you trade Jonathan India at the deadline
1078
01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:05.079
and it's not for a frontline,
frontline type, you're gonna have that uh
1079
01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:15.119
fan ownership struggle again. Let's get
to some calls real quick. Brian wants
1080
01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:17.680
to talk about the Reds lineup.
What's up, Brian? Hey, what's
1081
01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:19.760
going on? Chad? How are
you doing today? Sir? I'm doing
1082
01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:24.960
delightful and I'm getting ready here in
a little bit to head down to a
1083
01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:27.359
place that they don't like me,
but I think they're gonna let me in.
1084
01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:30.600
I have seen my picture on the
walls at the Centas Center, but
1085
01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:36.039
I think they'll be okay if I
come in today. Yeah, no one
1086
01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:43.640
wants to go there anyway anyway.
So what is going on in the lineup?
1087
01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:47.119
So why is our most the guy
with the most power of batting one
1088
01:25:47.239 --> 01:25:53.800
and a guy that proven that he
could be a very doing leadoff hitter batting
1089
01:25:53.880 --> 01:26:00.159
fit. I'm just I'm having very
hard under time understanding why David Bell just
1090
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:06.560
well, well, I mean,
Brian, let's let's let's not act like
1091
01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:11.359
that power is the only thing that
Ellie Daylight Cruz has. He's also the
1092
01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:15.079
fastest guy in baseball, and getting
him up to the plate maybe an extra
1093
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:20.479
or an extra halftime a game.
Uh, is not a terrible proposition.
1094
01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:26.560
Um, I think it's an experiment. I don't know. It's been unfortunate
1095
01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:30.520
because he's hit he smoked some balls
the last couple of games that have been
1096
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:33.720
right at people, and it hasn't
had really a chance to use that speed.
1097
01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:38.560
But Ellie's a guy that if you
get him on first it could it's
1098
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:43.399
essentially a walk could be a triple. So I get experimenting with him there.
1099
01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:46.039
I do think, and I talked
about this at the beginning of the
1100
01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:51.880
show. I'm coming back around on
maybe going putting Jonathan India back in that
1101
01:26:51.960 --> 01:26:56.880
leadoff spot, just because he seems
like he feels so much more comfortable there.
1102
01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:00.840
But he's also had a decent week
since being moved to five, so
1103
01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:04.239
he's been better at five than he
was at three. I think the three
1104
01:27:04.359 --> 01:27:06.920
thing, if you'd look at his
career numbers in the three hole, he's
1105
01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:11.920
just not comfortable there. His eye
is not the same, he's not as
1106
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:16.399
selective. Um, he's swinging a
little freer. We haven't we don't have
1107
01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:21.319
enough evidence at five yet to say
that, um so, I don't hate
1108
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:27.720
it, but I think Ellie is
eventually a you know, a solid four
1109
01:27:27.800 --> 01:27:31.239
hitter. He's just not making enough
contact right now. I think to be
1110
01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:34.319
a guy that you count on as
you're you know, you're a big RBI
1111
01:27:34.399 --> 01:27:39.479
guy in the middle of the lineup. So I don't mind seeing what happens
1112
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:43.960
putting him in the lead off spot
and at least trying to spark something with
1113
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:48.199
his legs while his bat has been
a little bit quiet. I think I
1114
01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:56.920
think that's very just David is very
interesting. I don't know why we just
1115
01:27:57.359 --> 01:28:00.039
don't let player would be comfortable keep
the line up, say let's do this,
1116
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:03.199
let's just roll with it and see
what happens. I understand the left
1117
01:28:03.239 --> 01:28:08.760
you or ride you make some changes
for that, but he is he likes
1118
01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:13.039
to experiment, and really here's the
lineup. It seems like just to change
1119
01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:15.079
the lineup. Noah. I think
he's probably got some method to his madness.
1120
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:19.680
Here's here's the other thing that makes
it difficult if you're gonna So you've
1121
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:23.640
got freedl who I don't think is
a two hitter. I don't think he's
1122
01:28:23.680 --> 01:28:28.520
a two whole hitter, but more
of a leadoff guy. So if him
1123
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:30.760
and India are both leadoff guys and
you both and you're gonna have both of
1124
01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:34.479
them in the lineup, well,
then realistically one of them would bat ninth,
1125
01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:38.479
then one of them would bat first. But would you trade what Will
1126
01:28:38.520 --> 01:28:42.199
Benson's doing in the ninth hole for
anybody right now? Because that guy is
1127
01:28:42.279 --> 01:28:46.479
making teams pay at the bottom of
the order. And that's something when you
1128
01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:51.079
talk about length, like how many
times is as a Reds fan over the
1129
01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:55.960
past ten to twelve years have we
gotten into seven eight nine and it was
1130
01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:59.760
just okay, well there's three outs, Like okay, well it's the bottom
1131
01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:02.520
of the fifth seven eight nine is
up right that off. We'll see what
1132
01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:06.520
the top of the order looks like
in the in the sixth. So will
1133
01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:10.720
Will Benson's been fantastic, So I
just don't think you can take him out
1134
01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:15.479
of that nine spot. Yeah,
he's been and he I went I went
1135
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:17.720
to the game last week and I
just got a fitness diamond seats. Will
1136
01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:24.359
Benson is built like a just an
a man. Oh I mean, I
1137
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:27.000
was like, oh my, he's
tall. He looks like a wide receiver.
1138
01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:30.479
Yeah, he's he's he's well built, that's for sure. Yes,
1139
01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:34.840
yeah, he was a he was, Yes, all right, appreciate it,
1140
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:41.680
Brian, all right, thank you
every weekend. You too, Mike.
1141
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:43.920
We got about ninety seconds. I
know you get mad at me when
1142
01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:45.640
when we do this. I try
to get to you first. But we
1143
01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:49.920
got ninety seconds. A little bit
more, maybe a little bit. Tern
1144
01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:54.680
said, we got a little bit
more. I got. I got chemod
1145
01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:58.560
out a couple of times with the
chemo ber anyway. Uh, I don't
1146
01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:01.279
care where India hits. I don't
care if they trade India. He's an
1147
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:04.600
average second base and get rid of
them, no big deal. If he's
1148
01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:08.239
a big influence, I don't think
it's a big of an influence in the
1149
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:11.600
clubhouse because they got a lot of
young guys with their head screwed on,
1150
01:30:11.720 --> 01:30:15.199
and there are quite a few better
second basements, and they're not going to
1151
01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:17.920
get a front line picture for Jonathan
India. That ain't gonna happen. So
1152
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:21.119
I don't even care what happens to
him. Yeah, just tell a christ
1153
01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:27.479
thing not hitting lead off? Why
not? And let me tell you why
1154
01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:32.479
not. Ricky Henderson hit three hundred
home runs hitting lead off, And I'm
1155
01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:35.960
telling you, I don't know what
his ribby total is, but he didn't
1156
01:30:36.039 --> 01:30:39.520
hit every one of those home runs. There's not a soul of shot.
1157
01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:45.399
I guarantee mn TA that right.
Ricky Henderson was a unicorn. He had
1158
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:48.119
three thousand hits. He's a unicorn, just like Ellie. I'm not saying
1159
01:30:48.119 --> 01:30:53.880
Ellie's I'm gonna get to that point, Mike, your stand office today,
1160
01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:58.439
Mike, are you okay? Is
everything all right? I'm taking some steps
1161
01:30:58.439 --> 01:31:02.479
backwards on a little pissy go ahead. Well, I'm I'm giving you an
1162
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:04.960
on air radio hug. Mike.
It's gonna be all right. We'll get
1163
01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:11.439
through it. We'll get through it. I don't disagree. I like Elliott
1164
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:14.840
at least. I don't hate Ellie
at leadoff. I think the thing with
1165
01:31:14.920 --> 01:31:18.840
Ellie is you could hit him pretty
much anywhere. Yeah, And I don't
1166
01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:23.920
mind. He's the most he's your
most gifted player. Why not get him
1167
01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:27.640
an extra at bat every every two
games, every three games by batting him
1168
01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:31.560
leadoff instead of clean up? Yeah? Because Rickie had three over three thousand
1169
01:31:31.600 --> 01:31:34.560
hits on top of that. Yeah, So you know, I'm not questioning
1170
01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:38.520
I don't know that David Bell's a
great hands or I have no idea.
1171
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:42.399
I know Bruce Bocci is. The
only way I judge managers is who won
1172
01:31:42.479 --> 01:31:45.119
World Series. So I know Bruce
Bochi is a great manager. David Bell,
1173
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:47.840
he maybe he may not be.
I don't know. I think he's
1174
01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:53.760
solid. I think he's shown us
he's solid. What he knows more than
1175
01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:58.239
any of us do is his team. So these guys call in and tweaked
1176
01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:00.680
this and it's fun to talk about. But yeah, sorry, David,
1177
01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:05.039
David Bell knows the players better than
any of us will ever know the players.
1178
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:10.520
Yep, all right, Mike,
go David Bell. I love it.
1179
01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:12.640
You have a great weekend, Mike, hope you feel better. All
1180
01:32:12.720 --> 01:32:16.000
right, brother, take care,
little brother. All right, let's get
1181
01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:19.920
to a break when we come back. Nick Pecoro talks Diamondbacks right here in
1182
01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:33.840
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Wouldn't the
pimps in the crib mon drop it like
1183
01:32:33.880 --> 01:32:40.279
it's drop it? Drop it?
All right? Here we go, just
1184
01:32:40.319 --> 01:32:43.279
about time to call it a weekend. But before we do that, let's
1185
01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:48.039
talk to Let's talk to Nick Pecoro, who covers the Diamondbacks on a regular
1186
01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:54.439
basis and UH does a great job
for the Arizona Republican Accentral dot Com.
1187
01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:59.560
UH Nick Corman Carroll has been the
catalyst for this team. He's been a
1188
01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:03.279
little bad up. They haven't lost
him, but he's not been you know
1189
01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:08.960
himself. Are you surprised that this
team is continuing to carry on at the
1190
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:13.640
level that they are with a little
bit less than one hundred percent Corby Carroll.
1191
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:15.680
Um. Yeah, I mean there's
a lot of things about them that
1192
01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:19.119
that have been a little bit confusing. Um. I think they have a
1193
01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:23.239
lot of talent. I think they
have a lot of good young talent UM.
1194
01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:26.720
But like there's just been certain aspects
of the way their season is kind
1195
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:29.840
of unfolded that's been it's just hard
to believe. I mean, they have
1196
01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:32.800
two really good starting pitchers, but
on the other three days it's been pretty
1197
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:36.960
inconsistent. Um. And yet they
have about a five hundred record on those
1198
01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:41.439
other three days, And that's not
usually how it works. When those guys
1199
01:33:41.479 --> 01:33:45.600
have rs you know, north of
five and in the neighborhood of work,
1200
01:33:45.720 --> 01:33:49.079
we're familiar m Yeah. Yeah.
And then and then they've you know,
1201
01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:53.760
they've had guys like you know,
Jake McCarthy, Alec Thomas, Josh Rojas,
1202
01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:57.640
guys that were I'm not sure literally
in their opening day lineup or not,
1203
01:33:57.640 --> 01:34:00.640
but you know, expected to be
big parts of their of their offense
1204
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:02.680
this year. All those guys have
been sent down to Reno at times this
1205
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:05.840
year. Um, two of them
are back. But it's just it's just
1206
01:34:05.880 --> 01:34:09.479
been sort of odd that they've been
able to kind of, you know,
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maintain this pace, this record.
Um, they've hit a little bit of
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01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:16.920
a speed bump recently. It seems
like the Atlanta Series maybe gets some back
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on track. We'll see. Um
they're still not like playing great U but
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01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:26.640
uh but yeah, they're They're they're
definitely on the right track. I feel
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like after that, the we're listed
as TBD for starting pitchers on Saturday and
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01:34:30.079 --> 01:34:35.319
Sunday. Any idea how that shakes
out? Yeah, I would guess that,
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01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:39.880
um, that Brandon spot is going
to be one of those guys,
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01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:45.640
and he has he has struggled badly
this year and coming to you know,
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01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:48.600
pitch against that line up in that
wallpark, given some of the home run
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01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:55.039
clothes that he had, UM is
maybe not ideal, but I'm I'm guessing
1217
01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:57.760
he's going to get a crack and
I would guess that the other day is
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01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:02.000
probably going to be a bullpend day. And offensively, what has been the
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01:35:02.079 --> 01:35:05.199
secret to success because when you look
at the number, it's not like when
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01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:08.439
you look like when you look at
the Braves numbers, you're like, oh
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01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:13.920
goodness. When you look at the
numbers, nothing really jumps off the page.
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01:35:14.479 --> 01:35:17.720
You know, nobody's got a major
amount of home runs. But it
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01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:20.880
just looks like consistency up and down
the lineup. A lot of guys hitting
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between two seventy and two ninety and
they get on base. It seems like
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just a full team effort. In
terms of why this offense is so good.
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01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:33.119
Yeah, I mean it's it's not
a team full of boppers. You're
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01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:38.560
right. It's kind of been a
little bit more like like, well,
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01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:41.159
Corbyn Carroll is what you have to
start with. I mean, he's been
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01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:44.680
one of the best hitters in the
nationally pretty consistently throughout the season. He
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01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:47.960
hasn't been quite as locked in since
having those shoulder issues a couple of weeks
1231
01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:53.720
back, but he's he's the biggest
reason. Then you know, you move
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01:35:53.760 --> 01:35:57.960
on from him, and it's kind
of been like a different guy carrying them
1233
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:00.439
for different stretches. It's just sort
of, you know, one of those
1234
01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:04.239
characteristics that most good teams seem to
have where it's you know, you're not
1235
01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:09.079
always relying on the same one or
two or three guys. It's you know,
1236
01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:12.920
maybe Lord Discuriel get hot for a
couple of weeks, maybe Christian Walker
1237
01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:15.840
gets hot. Maybe it's it's El
Marte. That's kind of where they've been
1238
01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:19.279
um for most of the year,
I mean, and then kind of bigger
1239
01:36:19.279 --> 01:36:24.560
picture, you know, they're really
aggressive on the basis and they make a
1240
01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:27.119
lot of contact. I don't I
don't know if you've noticed that that they're
1241
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:30.279
they're a team that's generally hard to
strike out. And when you have those
1242
01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:32.600
two those two things kind of put
together, it makes you a little bit
1243
01:36:33.079 --> 01:36:36.520
maybe a little a little slump of
verse, so to speak. Um just
1244
01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:42.840
makes it kind of it's still not
like a high charged offense or powerful in
1245
01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:45.239
a sense, but like it's just
easier to manufacture or run here and there
1246
01:36:45.239 --> 01:36:48.600
and kind of stay in games.
Would you say that this is I think
1247
01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:53.720
the parallels between these two teams.
The more I dug into Arizona is fascinating
1248
01:36:53.720 --> 01:36:57.560
to me. But would you say
this is a team that has greatly benefited
1249
01:36:57.600 --> 01:37:00.560
from the change in the rules.
You know, the clock and the bigger
1250
01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:04.560
bases and more, you know,
more activity, more steals, more more
1251
01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:10.760
aggression offensively. Yeah. Yeah,
young and a and a younger group and
1252
01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:14.920
guys kind of like, you know, just just fresh and energetic, right.
1253
01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.600
Um. I feel like they are
very similar clubs. I think a
1254
01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:21.680
lot more people saw this coming from
the Diamondbacks than than maybe saw it from
1255
01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:26.479
the red Sure, I think that's
pretty safe to say. But but yeah,
1256
01:37:26.520 --> 01:37:30.159
and I don't I don't know that
these guys even really like anticipated the
1257
01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:32.159
rule change in advance. It was
just sort of they were collecting all these
1258
01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:36.720
young, speedy, you know kind
of athletes and and just sort of let
1259
01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:40.159
let's see how it plays out.
And it wanted up, you know,
1260
01:37:40.199 --> 01:37:42.760
the rule change, the timing and
all that stuff. With all the rule
1261
01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:45.680
changes, it just worked out great
for them. I think what's fascinating to
1262
01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:48.520
me about it is for teams like
the Diamondbacks and the Reds, and you
1263
01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:53.079
know, there's mid market I don't
think either are you know, low market
1264
01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:56.760
or low budget teams. The Reds
forced them. They act like they are
1265
01:37:56.800 --> 01:38:00.960
at times, But I digress,
Um, I it doesn't it make more
1266
01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:03.840
sense? Like power hitters are expensive, you know what you do? You
1267
01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:08.960
know who doesn't get a you know, h thirty million dollars a year contract.
1268
01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:12.600
Contact hitters, Guys that get on
base, guy guys that move a
1269
01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:15.239
runner or or go first to third, Like maybe they should, maybe they
1270
01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:19.119
will now that we're seeing things change. But if you're looking at, you
1271
01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:24.920
know, being able to keep payroll
reasonable, like that's probably a really good
1272
01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:27.960
place to be if you're if you're
a team like the Diamondbacks are the Reds.
1273
01:38:29.680 --> 01:38:31.399
Yeah, I'm not sure that anybody
really plans it out that way,
1274
01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:34.439
right, I Mean, I think
when you're when you're looking at the draft,
1275
01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:38.840
you're still trying to find those big
boppers because you know you're not gonna
1276
01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:41.239
be able to go get them.
But I think in a sense what you're
1277
01:38:41.279 --> 01:38:44.920
kind of describing as a moneyball philosophy, right, similar, Yeah, kind
1278
01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:48.039
of you're kind of have to build
your team with two resources you have available
1279
01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:51.079
to you, and if those those
are the players that are out there that
1280
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:55.800
you can afford, you kind of
have to play the hand you're delt has
1281
01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:59.880
the has elimania kind of made it
to Arizona or are they aware of kind
1282
01:38:59.880 --> 01:39:04.680
of this alien that the Reds have
playing for them right now? I don't.
1283
01:39:04.760 --> 01:39:10.680
I don't think there's anybody in baseball
that isn't aware of what he's up
1284
01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:14.840
to, especially after he's useful second
third at home and whatever it was two
1285
01:39:14.880 --> 01:39:16.720
pitch span a couple of weeks ago. I mean, it's it's pretty amazing.
1286
01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:20.560
Um. I do think in a
sense like Corbyn Carrell is kind of
1287
01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:28.319
that guy arm and minus, like, you know, yeah exactly. I
1288
01:39:28.960 --> 01:39:32.000
mean, but Corbyn has things that
that Ellie probably doesn't have, and that
1289
01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:36.920
he has a much more refined approach, um and just just a you know,
1290
01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:41.640
I think, just a more mature
approach at the plate. I I
1291
01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:45.600
I'm not saying Corbyn Carrell is is
you know, a slam dunk like you
1292
01:39:45.640 --> 01:39:48.319
know, Hall of Fame or anything
like that. But I don't think he.
1293
01:39:49.119 --> 01:39:53.600
I don't think Ellie has really established
himself and shown that he can kind
1294
01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:56.640
of, you know, handle a
steady diet of breaking pitches or pitches out
1295
01:39:56.680 --> 01:40:00.319
of his own in the same way
that that Corbyn Carrell has. So um,
1296
01:40:00.640 --> 01:40:02.680
for me, they're very similar players. I kind of feel like the
1297
01:40:02.720 --> 01:40:05.439
jury is still a little bit out
on on Da la Cruz. Actually,
1298
01:40:05.479 --> 01:40:09.279
if if you really dig into it, the guy that they the Reds do
1299
01:40:09.359 --> 01:40:11.920
have a guy that kind of reminds
me of Corbyn Carroll. But it's not
1300
01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:18.319
Ellie de la Cruz. It's Matt
McLean Good. Oh, that's just their
1301
01:40:18.359 --> 01:40:23.159
approach. I'm pretty familiar with him
too, because he was a guy that
1302
01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:25.840
the Diamondbacks drafted him. You can
get signed. I don't know if you're
1303
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:30.600
familiar with that, Yeah, went
to UCLA instead, Yeah, exactly.
1304
01:40:30.039 --> 01:40:33.680
That's that's an interesting comp Yeah,
I think Corbyn. I'm not sure I
1305
01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:36.520
would guess that Corbyn has a little
bit more power, but those are good.
1306
01:40:36.560 --> 01:40:41.880
Those are good comparisons and obviously different
different body types and positions and all
1307
01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:44.960
that. I would just compare him
a little more than Ellie because I think
1308
01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:46.840
they're both really mature at the plate, Like when you watch their approach,
1309
01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:53.720
they've got a good compact, swaying
like they kind of they they feel like
1310
01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:56.359
those guys that have been around for
a while, because when you watch them
1311
01:40:56.479 --> 01:41:00.560
hit like there's a plan, like
they're not up there using or getting fooled
1312
01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:04.319
like they they have a grasp of
what they want to do at the plate,
1313
01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:09.880
which is why I really like watching
both guys play. Yeah. Yeah,
1314
01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:12.479
I haven't seen as much as McClain
as i'd like, um, but
1315
01:41:12.520 --> 01:41:16.399
it just reminds me the Dimebacks have
kind a really good job of of identifying
1316
01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:19.600
these types of hitters in the draft
over the years. Even though they didn't
1317
01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:24.079
sign McClain like they drafted them,
They've done a real nice job at the
1318
01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:26.479
top of the draft. I appreciate
it. Yeah, all right, well
1319
01:41:26.720 --> 01:41:30.640
let's uh, let's get you out
of here. I enjoy the conversation and
1320
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:33.960
looking forward to watching, which should
be two pretty similar teams play a great
1321
01:41:33.960 --> 01:41:38.880
American ballpark. Uh if if,
if you can, if you can get
1322
01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:45.279
to a legal gambling app or place
of establishment, I would I would be
1323
01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:49.079
comfortable with the overmost of this series, wouldn't you. Uh Yeah, I
1324
01:41:49.159 --> 01:41:51.920
saw some of the names of who
the Reds are going to be running out
1325
01:41:51.920 --> 01:41:56.079
there. Yeah, they're two best
guys pitched the last two nights. They're
1326
01:41:56.079 --> 01:41:59.439
two best guys pitched the last two
nights. So it's probably gonna probably gonna
1327
01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:00.680
be a lot of run and the
number he's gonna be pretty high. Though,
1328
01:42:00.760 --> 01:42:03.239
Yeah, you're you're gonna have to
get a pretty big, pretty big
1329
01:42:03.319 --> 01:42:06.119
number, but I think I'm there
on the side of the over two.
1330
01:42:06.479 --> 01:42:12.000
All right, Nick, tell them
where they can find you at. Nick
1331
01:42:12.680 --> 01:42:15.479
and my stories are all at easycentral
dot com. Thanks for having me on
1332
01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:19.680
all right, Thanks a lot,
thanks to Nick Pikoro, Thanks to Kashmir
1333
01:42:19.800 --> 01:42:25.359
Right, thanks to Richard Skinner.
That's gonna do it. I'll be back
1334
01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:29.079
Monday. Thanks to everybody for tuning
in. Thanks as always to the man
1335
01:42:29.079 --> 01:42:31.439
on the ones and twos, Tarn
bland enjoy enjoy snoop this weekend. I
1336
01:42:31.439 --> 01:42:36.399
want a full report on Monday.
Off to the TBT. Let's get a
1337
01:42:36.399 --> 01:42:39.720
win for Nasty Natty. Let's get
a win for Zip them up so we
1338
01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:45.000
can see those two teams Saturday in
the old guy Crosstown shootout. I'm Chad
1339
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:46.880
Brendall. This is the Mowegger show
right here, and since Nati's ESPN,
1340
01:43:04.319 --> 01:43:08.479
I know you don't lose it this
new sloop. Come on, baby,
1341
01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:12.000
boot, you gotta get into with
you gonna fool with the player with the
1342
01:43:12.039 --> 01:43:15.319
cool with yet Yeah you know I'm
awas on that cool walk to with What
1343
01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:18.600
how you do with have a glass. Let me put you in the movie
1344
01:43:19.039 --> 01:43:24.279
Little Shut It, looking like a
stupident long head with your big fat booty
1345
01:43:24.479 --> 01:43:26.640
back in the days you want to
go, I'm with the school with