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Welcome to Mission Evolution Radio show with Guildawaka, bringing together
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host of Mission Evolution, Miss Gwildawiyeka.
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Welcome to Mission Evolution, the show that explores the evolution
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of consciousness and the human experience. Are your host, Guildowayeka.
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Our guests this hour is Preston Dinnett, our respected UFO researcher,
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field investigator, and prolific author whose work has illuminated the
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mysteries of extraterrestrial encounters and the paranormal. Since nineteen eighty six,
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Preston has investigated hundreds of USO cases, near death experiences,
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and unexplained phenomenon, crulating them in more than thirty books
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and countless articles. His research offers profound insights into how
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contact with non human intelligence may be transforming both individuals
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and the collective human spirit. Join us as we journey
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into the extraordinary with Preston Dinnet to uncover these encounters
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and what they reveal about our evolution as a species.
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To learn more, visit prestondinnet dot weeply dot com. Preston,
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thank you so much for joining us on Mission Evolution.
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It's a pleasure and honor. Thanks for having me.
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Preston, how did you get involved in UFO research in
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and alien abductions?
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Involuntarily? Actually kind of kicking and screaming. Really, this was
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not something I was looking for. I was very skeptical.
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That all changed when I was a pretty young man
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nineteen eighty six, I was twenty one years old. I
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can actually pinpoint the exact date. It was November seventeen.
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The news came on and it portrayed an interesting news
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story about a Japanese commercial airline which had encountered a
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UFO over Alaska. It's now a very famous case, but
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at the time this news report was very kind of joking,
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tongue in cheek. They laughed about it and moved on.
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But I remember they showed the picture of this pilot,
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captain Kenju Tarrochi. I thought to myself, Wow, you know,
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this guy's going to lose his job. You know what
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did he see? Was it a reflection off the ice cap.
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I was kind of just making up ridiculous explanations without
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having done any research. But it reminded me that my
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older brother Mark had come running into the house when
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I was about thirteen years old claimed to have seen
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a UFO. I didn't believe him at the time, but
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hearing this news report really got me thinking about that,
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and so I asked him to tell me that story again,
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and he really knocked my socks off. He described this
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having seen a very classic flying saucer, metallic colored lights,
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a dome on top, totally silent tree top level, and
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he chased it in his car. Yeah, this was in
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La southern California area. He had two friends with him
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who I knew well, Phil and Greg, and so he's like,
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if you don't believe me, call them and gave me
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their numbers, and they of course confirmed his sighting. That's
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kind of what got the ball rolling for me. But
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what a shock it was to find out that I
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knew many people I would say about thirty percent forty
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almost it had some kind of unexplained experience. So yeah,
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it was a real shock and a very difficult adjustment.
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How many people have had a siting or experience a
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UFO abduction.
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Well, it's interesting because there's some controversies surrounding that it
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used to be thought of as very rare, but some
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surveys show it's actually pretty common. Initially, I heard j
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Allen Heinek, who was very well known in this field.
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He was part of Project Blue Book, the Astronomical Consultant
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and eventually kind of defected and started writing his own
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books about this subject. He's quoted as saying one in
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forty people have been on board a UFO. I heard
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that very early on, and I thought, no way, that's impossible.
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That would be millions of people. That would mean I
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would know someone who's had experience, because I think we
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all know forty people. So I started asking everyone I knew,
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and I didn't have to ask forty people. I found
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five people who kind of fit the bill. So I
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wrote an article about that for the mouf On Journal.
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Kind of surveying surveilling other major researchers who were calling
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it an invisible epidemic. And it was in nineteen ninety
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one that the Roper Organization, a major polling organization, conducted
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a survey asked the thousands of people with some hidden
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questions in there, and they found that one in forty
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people show the or what I'm sorry, one in fifty
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people show the markers of being a UFO contact tea.
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just that most people don't talk about it, especially if
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you know you have an onboard experience or you see humanoids.
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Having interviewed hundreds of people, I always asked them that
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did you call the police? Did you report it to
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a uf organization? I'm being generous when I say one
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in one hundred have reported it officially, Almost nobody reports it.
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So what's the typical mode of interstellar or interdimensional transportation
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used by our aliens?
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Trick question kind of. I think that you know, once
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they're over our planet, they're basically because many contact he's
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have been taken on board and told exactly how this works.
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When they're traveling around our planet, they're basically harnessing our
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gravitational magnetic field lines, sort of kind of anti gravity.
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generally along those lines. But in terms of interstellar distances,
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almost always people describe interdimensional travel, so they're not traveling
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faster than light or anything like that. Basically, they are
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able to slip out of the third dimension into the fourth,
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perhaps the fifth, and pop out any desired location in
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this universe, I guess you would say. But yeah, that's
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pretty consistent in terms of contact to us who've been
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able to get information on that. And people sometimes ask me, well,
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how do you know they're extraterrestrial or are they interdimensional?
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I would say that, you know, one does not preclude
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the other, because we ourselves are interdimensional beings. I know,
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you know that's having done looked at some of your research,
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but we survive, you know, death, near death experiences. All
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this points to us being interdimensional beings, and certainly the
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ets are as well and have a much greater understanding
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I think, and use of the other dimensions that they
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know a lot more than we do.
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I know that NASA has been studying what they call
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X points, and they're created every place the electromagnetic field
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of the planet crosses with that of This is.
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More research to really confirm that, but it's interesting because
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there are certain areas on our planet which seem to
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be what we would call UFO hotspots. Sedona Arizona is
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often cited, but San Louis Valley, Colorado, California has a
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huge hot spot in the Santa Monica Mountains and other areas.
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And there's some kind of preliminary research, I would say,
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pointing towards the possibility that these are what you're talking about,
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areas with high magnetic field lines or gravitational magnetic field
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lines or vore texas. Some have used that word, which
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is kind of vague and not fully scientifically confirmed, but yeah,
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there's some research pointing towards that. I think. Lots of
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questions still surrounding this subject, which is why research is
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so important and so hard to move forward with this
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basically a worldwide government cover up, suppression of UFO information disinformation.
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It's a bit of a mess trying to this subject forward.
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I would think I would think, what are the alien
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why are they deducting people? What's the point? Ah?
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Yeah, a million dollar question. But I think we've started
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to get a really good handle on this, having interviewed
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hundreds of people who've had this experience and read every
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book I can get my hands on. What I've found
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out is pretty much been confirmed by other major researchers,
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specifically those who concentrate or focus on people who are
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being taken on board, because of course there's many different
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aspects of research you can go into, but we now
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know enough to basically predict what's going to happen to
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a person when they're taken on board, and I think
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it really speaks to why this is happening to people.
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One thing we do know is it's generational, so they
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seem to be following certain family lines and perhaps have
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an interest in their genetics for some reason. So there
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does seem to be a real strong interest in that area,
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which is one of the reasons I think people are
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being taken on board. I can't say that healing physical
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healing is a big part of the et agenda. This
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is not speculation. This is demonstrably proven through the first
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hand accounts of people being physically examined and often healed,
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and a lot of research into this. Edith Fiori one
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of the first persons with a PhD to write about
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this subject, so that fully half of her clients had
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experienced healings, which is what Ray Hernandez found in his
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free study. Muffon did a study mutual UFO network and
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found closer to ten or twenty percent, but I can
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tell you that pretty much every major researcher out there
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has multiple cases of this kind. John Mack, David Jacobs,
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Bud Hopkins, Jacques Balay, Brad Stagger, Timothy Beckley, but Barbara Lamb,
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Yvonne Smith, had could go on. I've covered many cases myself,
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and I ended up writing a book documenting some three
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hundred cases of this. So that's absolutely one of their agendas.
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Another is just to basically provide information for people, because
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when people have an onboard experience and they're not in
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complete terror or panic, and they are, they essentially have
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missing time and they don't really recall a whole lot.
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a tour of the craft and they'll take you down
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to the engine room and they'll explain exactly how these
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craft are powered, or we'll take you up to the
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control room and say how this is how we steer.
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The craft actually sits you in the pilot's seat, and
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it's generally psychically when anyone gets any communication from ets
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beyond don't be afraid. We're not here to hurt you.
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You're fine, You'll be home soon. They give messages and
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warnings that fall into just a few categories, and it's
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very consistent and has been since the modern age of UFOs.
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It's warnings about nuclear proliferation, warnings about warrant aggression, greeding, corruption, pollution,
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and the destruction of the environment. So that's clearly one
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of their major concerns is how we treat ourselves, each
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other and this planet. Another one more I think that's
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very important to put forth is that they seem to
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be very interested in elevating our psychic abilities, because almost
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without exception, contactees have an enormous amount of psychic abilities,
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particularly following their encounter, but sometimes before. It's kind of
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a two way street there, but healing, hands on healing,
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astral projection, mediumship, clairvoyance, precognition, all of this man fests
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very strongly following an experience. So it's pretty clear to
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me that's a factor here.
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It's enough to make you wonder if we weren't seated
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here and they're following up when you when they follow
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the genetic line.
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do know, just based on historical records, that this phenomena,
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for lack of a better word, does go back to
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at least prehistory and probably before that, because we have
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you know, stone carvings and iroglyphs and writings of ancient
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India and so forth. They've been around forever and many
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contactees have been told that that was what lived on.
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It's time. We're going to have to take a station break, Preston.
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I will return very shortly, so don't you go away.
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This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org. Are all
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aliens created equal? With? This is our discussing alien abductions?
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Is UFO researcher Preston dannit precedent? How many different kinds
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of aliens are visiting the Earth.
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Seems like it's almost endless. It's very interesting to me
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because this is one of the things that kind of
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kept me out of UFO research. It sounded very star
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treky to me, with almost all reports being of what
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we would call humanoids, you know, basically bipedal beings, arms, legs, head,
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But that's what we're kind of stuck with. That's what
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the reports are showing us. Almost all of them are
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humanoid in form. There are some definite major types grays
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really dominate. In my own research, it's over fifty percent.
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People will describe some variation of the short little beings
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with large heads and large dark eyes, bald, grayish skin.
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But even there there's a huge variation because someone will say, oh,
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there were chalk white, gray, tan, yellowish blue. You get
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all these different and skin complexions. And of course there's
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human looking ets, and I'd say that's the second most
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common category. People that look very much like us, though
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usually described as being a little taller perhaps six feet,
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very muscular, often very good looking or beautiful. Praying mantis
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is another type. Tall whites, little short blue beings. Variation
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goes on from there, strange humanoids of all kinds. And
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it's so interesting to me because coming from a contact
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d angle, some contactees have asked about this, and a
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message they often get is that we all share a
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common ancestry. ETS will say something like we I am
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you you rus, we are one. This sort of thing,
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and from some contactees who are what I would call
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fully conscious contactees, and they've overcome the fear, they don't
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need hypnosis. They have long interactive conversations. I met one
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lady Dolly Saffron, wrote a book about her. She dug
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into this particular question deeply and was told basically that
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we all share the essentially the same genetics. We're all
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basically human, but what we're seeing is just ancestry differences
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and you know, caused by the environment we live in,
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but all essentially the same species, which would make sense
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considering you know, people report grays hybridizing with humans. You'd
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have to be the same species to be able to
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do that. But yeah, that's a message a lot of
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contactes get. So I'm leaning towards that our relationship with
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them is far closer than we perhaps previously believed, particularly
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because some do look just like us.
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be fascinated in us, And it kind of lends itself
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towards the we wereceeded here to start out with, doesn't it? It?
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Sued uh, And it's interesting because the idea that we
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evolved on this planet or started on this planet is
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certainly the mainstream paradigm that we're being taught in schools,
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but that's not what the contact these are being told
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humanity is throughout the universe, And as I mentioned earlier,
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a number of contactes say that we actually lived on
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Mars and we're brought to Earth and are lifted off
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periodically when there are natural cycles of existential crises with
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pole tilts and things like this, So which there's some
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good evidence for Michael Kremo, anthropologist. His book Forbidden Archaeology
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really lays it out in black and white that there
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have been previous iterations of advanced societies on our planet.
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So very interesting.
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So if we're looking for the missing link, we're going
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to be looking a long time.
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I think that's what I think is so interesting about
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this subject is it has so much to teach us.
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It offers such a great opportunity to expand our knowledge.
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How do you know that stories of abductions are not
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hypnotically retrieved fantasies or false memories.
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I'm glad you asked that question, because there's a lot
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of I think, misconceptions about it, a lot of confusion.
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In my own research, I've stayed away from hypnosis in
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my books, and I've written a number of them about
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this particular subject. I would say about ten to twenty
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percent of people have used hypnosis, and every single one
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of their cases stands up without it. So any claims
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that this can be explained by false memory syndrome as
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it's called does not hold water. Now, hypnosis has been
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proven repeatedly to be unreliable in terms of getting memories
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back if used in correct because, on the other hand,
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are numerous studies that show that it's absolutely very useful
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to retrieve information accurately. And I can say with absolute
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confidence that those who recall their memories through the use
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of hypnotic regression, the details that they recall match precisely
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what those who have fully conscious experiences recall. So there's
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no major difference between the two, which I think really
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argues for the fact that this does work when used correctly.
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So I absolutely do support hypnosis, but I generally don't
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recommend it unless a person has debilitating anxiety perhaps or
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a very clear cutcase of missing time that they can
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point to, because there are some hidden dangers there. And
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people I've talked to who have gone through hypnosis some
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have regretted it because they felt like the memory they're
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hypnotically recalled, they're a little bit different, whereas a number
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of people at some point, and this can happen, you know,
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days after, weeks after or even years, we'll get some
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sort of cueue or trigger. They'll see the cover of
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Whitley Strieber's book Communion and tell you how many people
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have told me like, oh, that brought back my memories
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of my experiences. So that can happen. You can recall
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through dreams and meditation as well. I always recommend that
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first before a person use hypnosis. But yeah, it works absolutely.
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I think is a reliable tool done right.
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Do you think that people or is there evidence that
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that the memories are blocked by the ETS or is
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it possibly just traumatic to the person so they block it.
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Yeah. For a very long time when I got in
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UFO research, I was blaming the etes, like it's them
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doing it. But if you look into the research of
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trauma when someone has it, you'll see it. Amnesia or
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memory problems pops up pretty consistently. Whether it's childhood abuse
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or war trauma victims, or even car accidents. Any type
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of trauma assault can be blocked by a person. I
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think essentially our own human mind doing it to protect
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the individual. So I've come to realize that it's somewhat
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of a two way street, because certainly there are cases
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where ETS will tell people you're not going to remember this,
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or you will remember it as a dream, or you
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will remember it when it's time. So I think in
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some cases what's really going on here is if a
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person is having a very difficult time processing the experience,
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they will facilitate you not remembering, because I don't think
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that's their purpose to scare people. Or the first thing
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they say is have no fear, you will not be hurt.
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But we have such a strong fear reaction, totally understandable,
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and I can only imagine what it must be like
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to wake up and see grays in your bedroom, or
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be on a table in an unusual place and ets
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are examining you. So I think it's difficult for people
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to remember. And there's another factor going on here because
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when people are brought on board or taken down, it
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appears that it's done to this kind of interdimensional beam
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because they're pulled through the walls the ceiling, and it's
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much like waking up from a dream kind of you
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know how dreams kind of slip away very easily. It's
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I think a very similar process. So that would be
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a fair analogy on how it can be difficult to
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remember these experiences. So yeah, I think it's a two
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way street. Honestly, do you.
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Suppose that the trauma that abductee's experience is actually the
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challenge to their concept of reality?
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Oh? Yeah, yeah. Almost Without exception, when someone has a
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contact experience, it changes everything. It is a peak experience
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in their lives. It affects them on multiple levels physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, psychically.
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It is an absolute life changing experience. So for some
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people they're just like, no, I can't deal with this.
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This is very it's our process for most people, and
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I absolutely see this pattern. It can be so frightening.
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In the beginning. People will suffer from PTSD clinical PTSD.
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they lock all the doors, they have a fear of intruders.
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But as they're brought on again, you know, on board,
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they realize, well, you know, they just healed me or
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they told me all this information that will give predictions
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to people. People start to come around. So in my
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own file, it's about seventy to eighty percent say it's
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kind of a mixed bag in the beginning, but after
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they get through the fear, they would not change it
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for anything, would say about ten percent was like, no,
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I don't like this experience. I wish it never happened,
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very traumatic for me, and I don't like it. So yeah,
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there's kind of a bell curve there of how people
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process this.
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We're talking they travel inner dimensionally. Do you suppose that
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this means also that they go backwards and forwards in
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time and as where the predictions come.
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From, I am not sure. I'm willing to go that far. Absolutely,
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they do provide predictions over and over again, some of
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which have absolutely come true. And they can do things
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with time that we don't understand, because it's not at
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all unusual for a person to have an experience, be
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pulled from their bedroom or their car while driving our
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long experience and come back in only minutes have passed.
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I have a number of cases where people one gentleman
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I interviewed, For example, in the Ozarks, the whole family
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was there when a UFO showed up. He ran inside
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to get a telescope or binoculars and came outside and
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his whole family was frozen. They weren't moving. In fact,
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his father was holding a bucket of milk and it
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was spilling over and he's looking at it like, how
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can this possibly be? Because he could move and looking
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down his driveway, he saw that the UFO that had
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been in the sky had now landed, and these grays
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were walking towards him. They had somehow it looked to
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him like they had stopped time. Got a lot of
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cases from of this, And I don't think they're stopping
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time at all, because you can't stop throughout the universe.
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That makes zero sense. But I think what they're doing,
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and I'm speculating here a little bit, is that they're
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pulling people out of the third dimension, perhaps into the
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forth where time flows differently, or somehow they're pulling people
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out of our time stream because they absolutely can do that.
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That would go back to the xpoint theory, because that's
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supposed to be wormholes through time and space.
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Yeah, we have a lot to unpack with this particular aspect,
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because it's really remarkable because there are cases of people
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who essentially said that they were shown past events, not
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so much traveling back in time. There's a theory that oh,
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there us from the future. I dug deep into that
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theory and I could not find cases to really support
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that that I found to be credible, so I don't
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think that's what's going on here. But they are very
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perceptive psychically. Their psychic abilities are incredibly advanced, So I
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think that they have precognition as a tool that we
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ourselves have and can be developed. And as I said,
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many contactees will start experiencing these kinds of psychic abilities.
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Well, it's about that magic moment. We're going to have
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to have another station break. Preston and I will be
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right back to continue our discussion, So please stay right there.
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This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org.
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Why me, This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org.
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With this discussing alien encounters is author Preston Dinnett. Preston,
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is there any pattern as to who has a UFO encounter?
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Yes? And this took me years to figure out because
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I really wondered about that, why some people and why
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not others? And of course one pattern that we do
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know of and has been long established, is that it
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does follow certain family lines. So if your parents, grandparents, aunts, whoever,
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have had an encounter, that increases your chances by at
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least fifty percent, more than fifty percent of people who
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have encounters it is in their family, so that's a
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very prominent pattern. But I dug into my own files
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because looking for patterns, it was absolutely evenly divided between
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men and women. There's talk about negative blood type being
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a factor here, and perhaps a little bit are itch negative.
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But in my own files, people of every blood type,
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every ethnicity have been contacted. Whether you're Caucasian or Black,
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or Pacific Islander or Asian, it doesn't matter. Everybody, Latino,
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you name it, so that's not a factor. People who
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are very very young will have these experiences, and people
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who are quite elderly as well. It's not age, not education.
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There's a little evidence of geography, because if you live
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in a major UFO hotspot, your chances do go up.
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But it's strange, and I really struggled with this because
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some people have never they don't have a history of encounters,
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and there's a whole category that seems opportunistic where people
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are driving along the highway, a remote highway, generally late
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at night, and they have an encounter. So I think
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that can be a factor. But what I found was
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really interesting one day when I was interviewing a lady
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from Norway because she had had grays come into her
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room and heal her of a chronic back problem that
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was really quite frightening. There were little grays slipping her around,
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held this instrument on her back, which I've heard described
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from many others, and filed out through the through the
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wall and took off. She was peppering them with questions.
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They didn't answer anything. So I started asking all these questions,
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and finally I got to her profession and she said, well,
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you know, I'm retired graphic artists, but right now and
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I have been for years, I'm very active in my
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community with human rights and animal rights, so please don't
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use my name. I'm pretty well known here. And that
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rang a bell for me because I just interviewed Reverend
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Michael Carter, who also fights for human rights and against
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racism and in fact was given an award by the
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President for his work on this, and thought, oh gosh,
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there's John Hunter Gray. He is also a social worker
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and he's had encounters and healings as well. So I
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started looking through my files. I'm like, oh, my gosh,
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there's a lot of people who are doctors and nurses
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and environmentalists and musicians and inventors, and people who are
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doing good work for humanity and some capacity, so that
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it's sort of a loose pattern. But the more I
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look into it, the more it's being confirmed. And people
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have actually asked this, like why me, They said, well,
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because you are doing work to help others, So I
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think that is a factor.
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Has the same person been abducted more than once regularly?
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That is more the rule than the exception. Some people
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generally starts at around age two to six or seven
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and continues regularly through adolescents and perhaps the teenage years
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and drops off and then in the twenties, forties, thirties,
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and will drop off kind of exponentially as a person
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reaches their sixties or so. I would say the average
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person will have like four or five major encounters that
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they can remember, pretty rare that it's a one off.
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It does happen, but generally know it's something that people
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deal with their entire lives. It's hard to say because
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some people don't remember it. Whitley Streeber is a good example.
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He was in not quite midlife, but close to it.
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He was an adult and he realized finally he was
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a contactee. It's very easy to go into the denial
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and shelve these experiences and not think about them, debunk
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them to yourself, explain them away. So I think there's
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a lot of people out there who are contactees and
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probably have no idea of it.
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That's a scary thought. Speaking of which, are there any
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hostile ats that we know of that we've been encountered.
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With in my own files? I have not really run
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into that, And I think this is a really sticky
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controversial issue because there are people who have absolute negative
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experiences and I've talked to them and I've asked them
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exactly what happened to them, and they have a very
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strong fear response. Because some people will have the same
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exact kind of experience and feel like, well, it wasn't
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negative to me. So I think plays a very powerful
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role in our perception. Because the worst I hear is
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when a person is being physically examined, and it can
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be incredibly traumatic, and there are people who describe some
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amount of pain with some of these examinations or even operations.
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That's pretty rare, and almost always they will relieve the pain.
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Not always. I am not convinced ets are coming here
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to hurt, harm, cause fear or take over. If they
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were truly hostile, I think with their advanced technology and
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their advance stabilities, we would already know this. I think
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there's a thing phenomena called my labs, a military abductions
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where our own governments are basically pushing a fear campaign
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and trying to portray ETS as negative and actually abducting
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people with fake abductions, particularly targeting contact ees well, which
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makes it very difficult for them, and using mind control
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techniques and drugs and hypnosis and the whole deal to
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fake a really negative encounter. And some of these stories
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get out there and people are saying, well, you know,
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my experience was horrific. I believe you, Yes it was.
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And I've interviewed some of these folks. One guy was
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a marine and he flat out said, yeah, they did
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all kinds of experiments on me. He was at Camp Pendleton,
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a great guy, a very wonderful man, but ultimately decided
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to know, my encounters have been horrific. So he's confused.
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But if is ET doing this or is it something
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else government agents? No, I don't think ETS are here
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to harm. And I know there are cases out there
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which people describe, oh, you know this is what they
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did to me. You know, it's again very controversial issue.
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This is my take on it, and I'll just close
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with this a very in depth look. The totality of
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onboard cases objectively shows a very prominent pattern of healing, guiding, teaching, warning,
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waking people up to our psychic abilities, which are all
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really good things for humanity. So my take on it
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is that overall it's positive. I think there probably are
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some malevolent species out there. Look at us, We're here
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on a planet who don't treat each other that well.
536
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Are they traveling to Earth to take people? I don't
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know that I would endorse that idea, but yeah, controversial
538
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to say the least.
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What would be the motivation of the government to make
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false abductions?
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I wish I could get into their minds too. I
542
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.320
think it's all linked to the cover up. I think
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incidents like Roswell, the Roswell crash in nineteen forty seven,
544
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:02.320
and many others where we have actually gained this technology,
545
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:06.800
these craft, these bodies is playing a role here because
546
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.079
it appears we do have this technology and it is
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being suppressed and withheld, And I think ultimately it comes
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down to greed, power and control. I think there's a
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lot more to unpack with this. It's not really my
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area of expertise, so I focus more on the contact
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era or you know subject. But it's a huge problem,
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and I think that's what's behind the cover up and
553
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the idea that our governments want to paint this as
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a negative phenomena, because just think what would happen if
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suddenly everyone on Earth developed their psychic abilities, became telepathic.
556
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We would overcome corruption if everyone knew that we didn't
557
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have to live in a society with money enslaving us.
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How quickly the world would change. So ultimately, I think
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the ET threat is to these the cabal, the illuminati,
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the one per centers, secret government, call them what you want,
561
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and they're doing everything they can to suppress this information
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from reaching all humanity.
563
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Well, we wouldn't want humanity to become empowered, now, would we.
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No, that's their greatest fear, I think, which is why
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00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:20.519
the work you're doing is so important.
566
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Thank you. So, were any witnesses given information by the ets?
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You've talked and talked about some of that. Is there
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any other information that they were given that it really
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kind of changes the way we look at the world.
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Oh yeah, Yeah. Generally speaking, I've interviewed so many people
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and those, as I mentioned earlier, fully conscious contact. These
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are feeling far between the hundreds of people I've interviewed,
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it's maybe five ten would be generous. But one contacting
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I mentioned earlier, Dolly saffron I wrote a book called Symmetry.
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She's been given loads of information. That book was doing
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really well because I think it's really resonating with people
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who are searching for information about, you know, what is
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daily life like with the ets. You know, what information
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do they have. Working on a sequel of that book
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where we're really doubling down on the science that she
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has learned from them, but they've absolutely do communicate and
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impart tons of information to people on Yeah.
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So you mentioned also that abductees some tell, some don't.
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Even if they do, remember, how does that wager out?
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What percentage do tell and what percentage don't?
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Oh gosh, I'd say the vast majority of people don't
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come forward. Those that do often don't want their name
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to be used. Particularly when I started in the late
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nineteen eighties, the climate was much more hostile in terms
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of ridicule and skepticism and gas lighting, and it's still
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a huge problem. And some people, of course have difficulty remembering.
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But the more if you have a simple sighting, I
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think a person is much more likely to come forward.
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But if you have a humanoid in your bedroom or something,
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or you believe you're taken on board, people often don't
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even tell their own family, their spouse perhaps. And I
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can tell you that when I do interview somebody, almost always,
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you know, particularly if it's an extensive encounter, they will
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say something along the lines of some caveat. I don't
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do drugs, I've got no history of mental illness in
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my family. I've got a good job, I've got a
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good education. So these kinds of things turn up again
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and again.
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So it's the wing net thing, right, don't want to
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be a wing net exactly.
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People are very and I understand that they don't want
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to be portrayed as a complete idiot, which you know,
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I think we're all victims of the UFO cover up,
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is what it comes down to, the whole all of
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humanity has been essentially gas lit by are highest levels
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of oron military who are so disingenuous because they know
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it's real know it's real.
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Are there any connections with the UFOs and the paranormals
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such as Bigfoot and ghosts?
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Oh? Yes absolutely. This is another thing that took me
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a while to unpack because right from the beginning I
617
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started to get reports from people who are like, oh, well,
618
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you know my house is haunted, like huh, or you
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know I've had near death experiences. Lots of people contact
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to you. I've had near death experiences, certainly not all
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of them, but it does turn up. And I got
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my first big Foot UFO case, which was very puzzling
623
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to me when a gentleman described having a UFO land
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in his backyard and the next day big Foot showed up.
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We're we're going to have to take a break on
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that note, We're gonna have to take another station break.
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Please stay with us. Is Pearson and I continue to
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explore UFOs and the mysteries surrounding them. This is Mission
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Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org. What do they
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know that we don't? This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution
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dot org. We're continuing our discussion with Preston Dinnet his
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website Prestondinnitt dot Weebley dot com. Preston, We've been talking
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a little bit about the government cover up. How large
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is it and how long has it been going on.
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It's worldwide and it's been going on for at least
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seventy to eighty years. Demonstrably, you know, this is not
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speculation by any means, because groups like the Citizens against
638
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UFO Secrecy actually sued the National Security Agency at one
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point demanding openness and transparency and received documents back that
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were entirely blacked out, I mean every single page. So
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we know the cover up is absolutely demonstrably true, and
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it appears that it is worldwide and at the very
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highest levels of government they are cooperating. I think it's
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tricky because you know, apparently some presidents are even out
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of the loop or heads of state, and the folks
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behind the cover up are hard to pinpoint because it
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appears that they are the highest levels of the military
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military industrial complex, which Eisenhower warned us against. But basically,
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intelligence agencies are absolutely behind this. It's no coincidence. I
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think that intelligence agencies were formed coinciding exactly with the
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modern age of upology in late nineteen forties. Also no
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coincidence that that's the atomic age when suddenly we reach
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the ability to destroy our entire planet. So I think
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that's when ETS began a very vigorous publicity campaign, because
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they did go to government world leaders and asked them
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to stop exploding nuclear weapons, asked them to be truthful
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and transparent, which of course did not happen. So I
658
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think they're conducting a grassroots campaign and showing themselves to
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as many people as possible. We have over a million
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We have a worldwide database of over a million documented
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cases ETS have disclosed, so they've absolutely done their part. Really,
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the rest is up to us. This government cover up
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is no joke. It is worldwide for sure.
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It being that massive, how do we know it's not
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other ETS that are behind it.
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I don't think there's any evidence of that whatsoever, in
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the fact that ETS are working very hard to counter
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the cover up. I wrote a book called Schoolyard UFO Encounters.
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May have heard of the Zimbabwe case in nineteen ninety
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six Aerial Elementary school. That's one of over one hundred
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cases where UFOs have covered or landed over schools like
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Westall High School in Melbourne, Australia, Hillsdale College in Michigan,
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Prestview Elementary School in Opa Laca, Florida, and many others.
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This points to what researchers call UFO displays. It could
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point to these major UFO waves that take place every
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couple of years over various locations on our planet. I
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always wrote another book this is so interesting of UFOs
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that were driving theaters. It's another very clever way for
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echis to introduce themselves to a fairly large audience. I've
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got over one hundred cases of this, and I think
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there's probably ten times that amount. So I think, yeah,
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eachi's have worked very hard to announce your presence. Look
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at the Capitol flyover in nineteen fifty two. Essentially they
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would have landed, I think on the White House lawn.
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It's so cliche. People asked, well, why don't they do that?
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They tried. What was our reaction? We scrambled jet fighters
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after them and tried to intercept them. So I think,
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you know, it's our own faults that we haven't had
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open official contact.
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With all the cell phones and cameras. Are we seeing
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an increase in documentation?
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Photographic evidence is very tricky. There's absolutely been some wonderful evidence.
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I would point to the komberg As Turkey footage in
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two thousand and six, seven and eight some of the
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best footage out there. There is an enormous amount of
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photographic evidence which I think is unimpeachable these days, however,
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with the advent of AI and photoshop and the hoaxing
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is off the charts. You can't trust most of what
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you see on social media platforms, and I just but
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it's just true. And I don't even really want to
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see these photographs that people are putting forth unless they're
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willing to stand behind it with an affid david, identify
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themselves and really go through the whole process of being investigated,
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because yes, many people have captured things on cell phones,
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but it's just not trustworthy this current day and age.
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So what does the government really know?
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From what I understand, they know far more than UFO researchers,
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probably more than most contactees. My understanding that this subject
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is at the top of their list in terms of
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urgency and the amount of money spent towards it. So
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I think they know that they are ets, that they
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are very advanced, that they do have these craft that
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can travel interstellar distances, and are doing their level best
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to reverse engineer it to the point that pretty much
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everything we see right now is probably reverse engineered craft.
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From what I understand, ets are not right here right now,
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our magnetic fields have collapse to about sixty percent. They're
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forty percent down. This is science you can look up.
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Don't believe me, do your own research. Don't believe anything
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I say. I would really encourage people to absolutely do
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your own research, do your due diligence. But our governments
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have absolutely and I think we know this from the
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huge number of whistleblower accounts and frankly first hand sightings
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from people who describe what looks like not genuine ET
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craft because they'll have rivets on it in the bolts
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and or make god awful noises worth flying these craft around,
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Make no doubt about it. What people are often seeing
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is our own craft.
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You mentioned the electromagnetic field of the Earth, and indeed,
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I know that thing's been wandering. They've even had to
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cease and desist landing airplanes, you know, the big jetliners
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with remote means, okay, with autopilot, which used to be safer,
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because the electromagnetic field of the Earth is becoming so erratic.
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Is this affecting the UFO encounters and their ability to
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get here, I guess is the question.
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Yeah, and I think this is why we've probably seen,
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you know, over one hundred cases of UFO crashes. People
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always say, well, the first one, man, that's how are
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they crashing? Well, accidents happen, and if you're using the
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magnetic field lines of our planet, gravitational magnetic field lines
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to navigate, and there's that unstable uh, this is probably
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why they are crashing. So yeah, this is a huge
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problem and it's had a profound effect I think on
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ET contact and why it's really not happening right now.
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This is what Dolly's told me. She says they bugged out.
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That's interesting because I've had a number of contactees tell
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me like, no, I haven't had an encounter in the
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last three years. So I think this is an area
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that we need to do a lot more research into.
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But if you follow the UFO databases, you'll see an
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enormous drop off of what I don't call them abductions
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because that is offensive to some of the people I've interviewed.
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I call them onboard experiences, which is a much more
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neutral term and accurate. I think but yeah, you drop off.
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Over the last three years.
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Or so, the Sun's been going crazy too unprecedented. Do
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you think that plays a part?
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I do. From what I understand, we're facing a extinction
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level event, a coronal mass ejection which will essentially drop
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down our electric grid to a point where it's irreparable,
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and perhaps a micro nova. And I think this is
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one of the reasons behind the cover up. Our government
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knows this, and they're moving into these dumbs deep underground
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military bases, collecting seeds and supplies and food and trying
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to survive this and kind of leaving all humanity to
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fend for itself. Absolutely, I think this is something everyone
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needs to do their research on. Look up gosh, what's
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his named, Ben Davidson. He has a website Space Weather Observers.
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You can see a lot of this information. He's kind
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of the go to guy for this. But yeah, this is,
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from what I understand, a natural cycle that our planet
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goes through, and in prior iterations we're lifted off by ets,
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but in prior iterations we are not as violent and
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warlike and greedy and divisive, and all the troubles that
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we're going through, which has really prevented us from evolving
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spiritually to the point where we need to be to
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have open official contact.
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I can see why they would be a little hesitant
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to give them the way we are operating right now.
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Do you think that the government will ever disclose these things?
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I do not, and I hate to say it, because
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when I got involved in this subject, people were saying, oh,
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disclosures on the horizon, and it never came. Yes, we've
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seen steps recently, but it's very much a dog and
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pony show. It's very drip dripped. The cover up is
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still in place. They've showed us little fuzzy images when
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we know they have much better footage. Let's face it,
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fighter jets are riddled with cameras pointing in every direction.
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Ask any military guy who they will tell you this.
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We have gun camera footage that is crisp and clear
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and absolutely conclusive, and that's never been released. In nineteen
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fifty four, allegedly there was a landing with President Eisenhower
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and numerous officials that was filmed. Gordon Cooper was there
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when UFO landed Edwards there far space and developed and
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saw the footage that's never been released. There's so much
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that has never been released. I don't think they will
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ever willingly be open and truthful and transparent
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Our guests this hour is Preston Dinnett, our respected UFO researcher,
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field investigator, and prolific author whose work has illuminated the
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mysteries of extraterrestrial encounters and the paranormal. Since nineteen eighty six,
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Preston has investigated hundreds of USO cases, near death experiences,
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and unexplained phenomenon, crulating them in more than thirty books
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and countless articles. His research offers profound insights into how
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contact with non human intelligence may be transforming both individuals
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and the collective human spirit. Join us as we journey
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into the extraordinary with Preston Dinnet to uncover these encounters
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To learn more, visit prestondinnet dot weeply dot com. Preston,
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thank you so much for joining us on Mission Evolution.
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It's a pleasure and honor. Thanks for having me.
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Preston, how did you get involved in UFO research in
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and alien abductions?
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Involuntarily? Actually kind of kicking and screaming. Really, this was
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not something I was looking for. I was very skeptical.
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That all changed when I was a pretty young man
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nineteen eighty six, I was twenty one years old. I
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can actually pinpoint the exact date. It was November seventeen.
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The news came on and it portrayed an interesting news
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story about a Japanese commercial airline which had encountered a
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UFO over Alaska. It's now a very famous case, but
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at the time this news report was very kind of joking,
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tongue in cheek. They laughed about it and moved on.
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But I remember they showed the picture of this pilot,
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captain Kenju Tarrochi. I thought to myself, Wow, you know,
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this guy's going to lose his job. You know what
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did he see? Was it a reflection off the ice cap.
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I was kind of just making up ridiculous explanations without
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having done any research. But it reminded me that my
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older brother Mark had come running into the house when
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I was about thirteen years old claimed to have seen
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a UFO. I didn't believe him at the time, but
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hearing this news report really got me thinking about that,
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and so I asked him to tell me that story again,
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and he really knocked my socks off. He described this
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having seen a very classic flying saucer, metallic colored lights,
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a dome on top, totally silent tree top level, and
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he chased it in his car. Yeah, this was in
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La southern California area. He had two friends with him
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who I knew well, Phil and Greg, and so he's like,
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if you don't believe me, call them and gave me
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their numbers, and they of course confirmed his sighting. That's
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kind of what got the ball rolling for me. But
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what a shock it was to find out that I
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knew many people I would say about thirty percent forty
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almost it had some kind of unexplained experience. So yeah,
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it was a real shock and a very difficult adjustment.
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How many people have had a siting or experience a
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UFO abduction.
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Well, it's interesting because there's some controversies surrounding that it
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used to be thought of as very rare, but some
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surveys show it's actually pretty common. Initially, I heard j
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Allen Heinek, who was very well known in this field.
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He was part of Project Blue Book, the Astronomical Consultant
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and eventually kind of defected and started writing his own
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books about this subject. He's quoted as saying one in
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forty people have been on board a UFO. I heard
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that very early on, and I thought, no way, that's impossible.
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That would be millions of people. That would mean I
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would know someone who's had experience, because I think we
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all know forty people. So I started asking everyone I knew,
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and I didn't have to ask forty people. I found
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five people who kind of fit the bill. So I
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wrote an article about that for the mouf On Journal.
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Kind of surveying surveilling other major researchers who were calling
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it an invisible epidemic. And it was in nineteen ninety
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one that the Roper Organization, a major polling organization, conducted
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a survey asked the thousands of people with some hidden
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questions in there, and they found that one in forty
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people show the or what I'm sorry, one in fifty
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people show the markers of being a UFO contact tea.
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So yeah, I think it's a lot more common. It's
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just that most people don't talk about it, especially if
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you know you have an onboard experience or you see humanoids.
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Having interviewed hundreds of people, I always asked them that
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did you call the police? Did you report it to
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a uf organization? I'm being generous when I say one
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in one hundred have reported it officially, Almost nobody reports it.
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So what's the typical mode of interstellar or interdimensional transportation
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used by our aliens?
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Trick question kind of. I think that you know, once
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they're over our planet, they're basically because many contact he's
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have been taken on board and told exactly how this works.
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When they're traveling around our planet, they're basically harnessing our
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gravitational magnetic field lines, sort of kind of anti gravity.
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People come up with different variations of this, but it's
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generally along those lines. But in terms of interstellar distances,
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almost always people describe interdimensional travel, so they're not traveling
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faster than light or anything like that. Basically, they are
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able to slip out of the third dimension into the fourth,
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perhaps the fifth, and pop out any desired location in
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this universe, I guess you would say. But yeah, that's
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pretty consistent in terms of contact to us who've been
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able to get information on that. And people sometimes ask me, well,
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how do you know they're extraterrestrial or are they interdimensional?
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I would say that, you know, one does not preclude
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the other, because we ourselves are interdimensional beings. I know,
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you know that's having done looked at some of your research,
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but we survive, you know, death, near death experiences. All
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this points to us being interdimensional beings, and certainly the
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ets are as well and have a much greater understanding
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I think, and use of the other dimensions that they
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know a lot more than we do.
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I know that NASA has been studying what they call
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X points, and they're created every place the electromagnetic field
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of the planet crosses with that of This is.
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More research to really confirm that, but it's interesting because
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there are certain areas on our planet which seem to
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be what we would call UFO hotspots. Sedona Arizona is
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often cited, but San Louis Valley, Colorado, California has a
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huge hot spot in the Santa Monica Mountains and other areas.
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And there's some kind of preliminary research, I would say,
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pointing towards the possibility that these are what you're talking about,
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areas with high magnetic field lines or gravitational magnetic field
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lines or vore texas. Some have used that word, which
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is kind of vague and not fully scientifically confirmed, but yeah,
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there's some research pointing towards that. I think. Lots of
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questions still surrounding this subject, which is why research is
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so important and so hard to move forward with this
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basically a worldwide government cover up, suppression of UFO information disinformation.
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It's a bit of a mess trying to this subject forward.
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I would think I would think, what are the alien
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why are they deducting people? What's the point? Ah?
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Yeah, a million dollar question. But I think we've started
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to get a really good handle on this, having interviewed
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hundreds of people who've had this experience and read every
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book I can get my hands on. What I've found
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out is pretty much been confirmed by other major researchers,
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specifically those who concentrate or focus on people who are
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being taken on board, because of course there's many different
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aspects of research you can go into, but we now
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know enough to basically predict what's going to happen to
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a person when they're taken on board, and I think
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it really speaks to why this is happening to people.
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One thing we do know is it's generational, so they
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seem to be following certain family lines and perhaps have
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an interest in their genetics for some reason. So there
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does seem to be a real strong interest in that area,
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which is one of the reasons I think people are
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being taken on board. I can't say that healing physical
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healing is a big part of the et agenda. This
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is not speculation. This is demonstrably proven through the first
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hand accounts of people being physically examined and often healed,
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and a lot of research into this. Edith Fiori one
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of the first persons with a PhD to write about
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this subject, so that fully half of her clients had
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experienced healings, which is what Ray Hernandez found in his
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free study. Muffon did a study mutual UFO network and
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found closer to ten or twenty percent, but I can
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tell you that pretty much every major researcher out there
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has multiple cases of this kind. John Mack, David Jacobs,
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Bud Hopkins, Jacques Balay, Brad Stagger, Timothy Beckley, but Barbara Lamb,
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Yvonne Smith, had could go on. I've covered many cases myself,
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and I ended up writing a book documenting some three
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hundred cases of this. So that's absolutely one of their agendas.
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when people have an onboard experience and they're not in
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complete terror or panic, and they are, they essentially have
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missing time and they don't really recall a whole lot.
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a tour of the craft and they'll take you down
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to the engine room and they'll explain exactly how these
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craft are powered, or we'll take you up to the
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control room and say how this is how we steer.
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it's generally psychically when anyone gets any communication from ets
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beyond don't be afraid. We're not here to hurt you.
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You're fine, You'll be home soon. They give messages and
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warnings that fall into just a few categories, and it's
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very consistent and has been since the modern age of UFOs.
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It's warnings about nuclear proliferation, warnings about warrant aggression, greeding, corruption, pollution,
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and the destruction of the environment. So that's clearly one
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of their major concerns is how we treat ourselves, each
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other and this planet. Another one more I think that's
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very important to put forth is that they seem to
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be very interested in elevating our psychic abilities, because almost
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without exception, contactees have an enormous amount of psychic abilities,
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particularly following their encounter, but sometimes before. It's kind of
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a two way street there, but healing, hands on healing,
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astral projection, mediumship, clairvoyance, precognition, all of this man fests
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very strongly following an experience. So it's pretty clear to
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me that's a factor here.
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It's enough to make you wonder if we weren't seated
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here and they're following up when you when they follow
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the genetic line.
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do know, just based on historical records, that this phenomena,
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for lack of a better word, does go back to
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at least prehistory and probably before that, because we have
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you know, stone carvings and iroglyphs and writings of ancient
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India and so forth. They've been around forever and many
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contactees have been told that that was what lived on.
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It's time. We're going to have to take a station break, Preston.
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I will return very shortly, so don't you go away.
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This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org. Are all
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aliens created equal? With? This is our discussing alien abductions?
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Is UFO researcher Preston dannit precedent? How many different kinds
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of aliens are visiting the Earth.
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Seems like it's almost endless. It's very interesting to me
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because this is one of the things that kind of
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kept me out of UFO research. It sounded very star
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treky to me, with almost all reports being of what
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we would call humanoids, you know, basically bipedal beings, arms, legs, head,
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the reports are showing us. Almost all of them are
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humanoid in form. There are some definite major types grays
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really dominate. In my own research, it's over fifty percent.
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People will describe some variation of the short little beings
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with large heads and large dark eyes, bald, grayish skin.
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there were chalk white, gray, tan, yellowish blue. You get
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all these different and skin complexions. And of course there's
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human looking ets, and I'd say that's the second most
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common category. People that look very much like us, though
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usually described as being a little taller perhaps six feet,
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very muscular, often very good looking or beautiful. Praying mantis
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is another type. Tall whites, little short blue beings. Variation
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goes on from there, strange humanoids of all kinds. And
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it's so interesting to me because coming from a contact
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d angle, some contactees have asked about this, and a
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message they often get is that we all share a
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common ancestry. ETS will say something like we I am
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you you rus, we are one. This sort of thing,
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and from some contactees who are what I would call
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fully conscious contactees, and they've overcome the fear, they don't
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need hypnosis. They have long interactive conversations. I met one
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lady Dolly Saffron, wrote a book about her. She dug
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into this particular question deeply and was told basically that
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we all share the essentially the same genetics. We're all
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basically human, but what we're seeing is just ancestry differences
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and you know, caused by the environment we live in,
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but all essentially the same species, which would make sense
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considering you know, people report grays hybridizing with humans. You'd
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have to be the same species to be able to
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do that. But yeah, that's a message a lot of
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contactes get. So I'm leaning towards that our relationship with
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them is far closer than we perhaps previously believed, particularly
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because some do look just like us.
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be fascinated in us, And it kind of lends itself
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towards the we wereceeded here to start out with, doesn't it? It?
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Sued uh, And it's interesting because the idea that we
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evolved on this planet or started on this planet is
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certainly the mainstream paradigm that we're being taught in schools,
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but that's not what the contact these are being told
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humanity is throughout the universe, And as I mentioned earlier,
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a number of contactes say that we actually lived on
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Mars and we're brought to Earth and are lifted off
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periodically when there are natural cycles of existential crises with
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pole tilts and things like this, So which there's some
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good evidence for Michael Kremo, anthropologist. His book Forbidden Archaeology
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really lays it out in black and white that there
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have been previous iterations of advanced societies on our planet.
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So if we're looking for the missing link, we're going
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to be looking a long time.
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I think that's what I think is so interesting about
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this subject is it has so much to teach us.
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It offers such a great opportunity to expand our knowledge.
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How do you know that stories of abductions are not
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hypnotically retrieved fantasies or false memories.
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I'm glad you asked that question, because there's a lot
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of I think, misconceptions about it, a lot of confusion.
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my books, and I've written a number of them about
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this particular subject. I would say about ten to twenty
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percent of people have used hypnosis, and every single one
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of their cases stands up without it. So any claims
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that this can be explained by false memory syndrome as
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it's called does not hold water. Now, hypnosis has been
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proven repeatedly to be unreliable in terms of getting memories
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back if used in correct because, on the other hand,
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are numerous studies that show that it's absolutely very useful
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to retrieve information accurately. And I can say with absolute
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confidence that those who recall their memories through the use
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of hypnotic regression, the details that they recall match precisely
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what those who have fully conscious experiences recall. So there's
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no major difference between the two, which I think really
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argues for the fact that this does work when used correctly.
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So I absolutely do support hypnosis, but I generally don't
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recommend it unless a person has debilitating anxiety perhaps or
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a very clear cutcase of missing time that they can
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point to, because there are some hidden dangers there. And
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people I've talked to who have gone through hypnosis some
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have regretted it because they felt like the memory they're
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hypnotically recalled, they're a little bit different, whereas a number
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of people at some point, and this can happen, you know,
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days after, weeks after or even years, we'll get some
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sort of cueue or trigger. They'll see the cover of
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Whitley Strieber's book Communion and tell you how many people
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have told me like, oh, that brought back my memories
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of my experiences. So that can happen. You can recall
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through dreams and meditation as well. I always recommend that
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first before a person use hypnosis. But yeah, it works absolutely.
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I think is a reliable tool done right.
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that the memories are blocked by the ETS or is
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it possibly just traumatic to the person so they block it.
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UFO research, I was blaming the etes, like it's them
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doing it. But if you look into the research of
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trauma when someone has it, you'll see it. Amnesia or
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memory problems pops up pretty consistently. Whether it's childhood abuse
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or war trauma victims, or even car accidents. Any type
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of trauma assault can be blocked by a person. I
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think essentially our own human mind doing it to protect
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the individual. So I've come to realize that it's somewhat
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of a two way street, because certainly there are cases
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where ETS will tell people you're not going to remember this,
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or you will remember it as a dream, or you
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will remember it when it's time. So I think in
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some cases what's really going on here is if a
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person is having a very difficult time processing the experience,
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they will facilitate you not remembering, because I don't think
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that's their purpose to scare people. Or the first thing
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they say is have no fear, you will not be hurt.
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and I can only imagine what it must be like
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to wake up and see grays in your bedroom, or
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be on a table in an unusual place and ets
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are examining you. So I think it's difficult for people
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to remember. And there's another factor going on here because
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when people are brought on board or taken down, it
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appears that it's done to this kind of interdimensional beam
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because they're pulled through the walls the ceiling, and it's
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much like waking up from a dream kind of you
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know how dreams kind of slip away very easily. It's
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I think a very similar process. So that would be
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a fair analogy on how it can be difficult to
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remember these experiences. So yeah, I think it's a two
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way street. Honestly, do you.
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Suppose that the trauma that abductee's experience is actually the
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challenge to their concept of reality?
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contact experience, it changes everything. It is a peak experience
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in their lives. It affects them on multiple levels physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, psychically.
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people they're just like, no, I can't deal with this.
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they lock all the doors, they have a fear of intruders.
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they realize, well, you know, they just healed me or
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they told me all this information that will give predictions
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to people. People start to come around. So in my
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own file, it's about seventy to eighty percent say it's
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kind of a mixed bag in the beginning, but after
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they get through the fear, they would not change it
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for anything, would say about ten percent was like, no,
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very traumatic for me, and I don't like it. So yeah,
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there's kind of a bell curve there of how people
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process this.
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this means also that they go backwards and forwards in
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time and as where the predictions come.
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From, I am not sure. I'm willing to go that far. Absolutely,
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they do provide predictions over and over again, some of
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which have absolutely come true. And they can do things
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with time that we don't understand, because it's not at
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all unusual for a person to have an experience, be
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pulled from their bedroom or their car while driving our
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long experience and come back in only minutes have passed.
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I interviewed, For example, in the Ozarks, the whole family
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was there when a UFO showed up. He ran inside
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to get a telescope or binoculars and came outside and
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his whole family was frozen. They weren't moving. In fact,
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his father was holding a bucket of milk and it
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was spilling over and he's looking at it like, how
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can this possibly be? Because he could move and looking
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down his driveway, he saw that the UFO that had
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been in the sky had now landed, and these grays
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were walking towards him. They had somehow it looked to
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him like they had stopped time. Got a lot of
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cases from of this, And I don't think they're stopping
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time at all, because you can't stop throughout the universe.
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That makes zero sense. But I think what they're doing,
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and I'm speculating here a little bit, is that they're
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pulling people out of the third dimension, perhaps into the
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forth where time flows differently, or somehow they're pulling people
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out of our time stream because they absolutely can do that.
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That would go back to the xpoint theory, because that's
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supposed to be wormholes through time and space.
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Yeah, we have a lot to unpack with this particular aspect,
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because it's really remarkable because there are cases of people
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who essentially said that they were shown past events, not
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so much traveling back in time. There's a theory that oh,
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there us from the future. I dug deep into that
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theory and I could not find cases to really support
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that that I found to be credible, so I don't
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think that's what's going on here. But they are very
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perceptive psychically. Their psychic abilities are incredibly advanced, So I
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think that they have precognition as a tool that we
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ourselves have and can be developed. And as I said,
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many contactees will start experiencing these kinds of psychic abilities.
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Well, it's about that magic moment. We're going to have
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to have another station break. Preston and I will be
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right back to continue our discussion, So please stay right there.
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This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org.
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Why me, This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org.
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With this discussing alien encounters is author Preston Dinnett. Preston,
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is there any pattern as to who has a UFO encounter?
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Yes? And this took me years to figure out because
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I really wondered about that, why some people and why
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not others? And of course one pattern that we do
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know of and has been long established, is that it
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does follow certain family lines. So if your parents, grandparents, aunts, whoever,
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have had an encounter, that increases your chances by at
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least fifty percent, more than fifty percent of people who
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have encounters it is in their family, so that's a
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very prominent pattern. But I dug into my own files
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because looking for patterns, it was absolutely evenly divided between
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men and women. There's talk about negative blood type being
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a factor here, and perhaps a little bit are itch negative.
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But in my own files, people of every blood type,
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every ethnicity have been contacted. Whether you're Caucasian or Black,
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or Pacific Islander or Asian, it doesn't matter. Everybody, Latino,
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you name it, so that's not a factor. People who
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are very very young will have these experiences, and people
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who are quite elderly as well. It's not age, not education.
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There's a little evidence of geography, because if you live
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in a major UFO hotspot, your chances do go up.
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But it's strange, and I really struggled with this because
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some people have never they don't have a history of encounters,
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and there's a whole category that seems opportunistic where people
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are driving along the highway, a remote highway, generally late
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at night, and they have an encounter. So I think
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that can be a factor. But what I found was
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really interesting one day when I was interviewing a lady
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from Norway because she had had grays come into her
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room and heal her of a chronic back problem that
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was really quite frightening. There were little grays slipping her around,
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held this instrument on her back, which I've heard described
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from many others, and filed out through the through the
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wall and took off. She was peppering them with questions.
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They didn't answer anything. So I started asking all these questions,
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and finally I got to her profession and she said, well,
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you know, I'm retired graphic artists, but right now and
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I have been for years, I'm very active in my
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community with human rights and animal rights, so please don't
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use my name. I'm pretty well known here. And that
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rang a bell for me because I just interviewed Reverend
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Michael Carter, who also fights for human rights and against
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racism and in fact was given an award by the
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President for his work on this, and thought, oh gosh,
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there's John Hunter Gray. He is also a social worker
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and he's had encounters and healings as well. So I
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started looking through my files. I'm like, oh, my gosh,
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there's a lot of people who are doctors and nurses
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and environmentalists and musicians and inventors, and people who are
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doing good work for humanity and some capacity, so that
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it's sort of a loose pattern. But the more I
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look into it, the more it's being confirmed. And people
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have actually asked this, like why me, They said, well,
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because you are doing work to help others, So I
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think that is a factor.
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Has the same person been abducted more than once regularly?
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That is more the rule than the exception. Some people
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generally starts at around age two to six or seven
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and continues regularly through adolescents and perhaps the teenage years
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and drops off and then in the twenties, forties, thirties,
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and will drop off kind of exponentially as a person
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reaches their sixties or so. I would say the average
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person will have like four or five major encounters that
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they can remember, pretty rare that it's a one off.
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It does happen, but generally know it's something that people
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deal with their entire lives. It's hard to say because
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some people don't remember it. Whitley Streeber is a good example.
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He was in not quite midlife, but close to it.
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He was an adult and he realized finally he was
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a contactee. It's very easy to go into the denial
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and shelve these experiences and not think about them, debunk
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them to yourself, explain them away. So I think there's
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a lot of people out there who are contactees and
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probably have no idea of it.
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That's a scary thought. Speaking of which, are there any
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hostile ats that we know of that we've been encountered.
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With in my own files? I have not really run
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into that, And I think this is a really sticky
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controversial issue because there are people who have absolute negative
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experiences and I've talked to them and I've asked them
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exactly what happened to them, and they have a very
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strong fear response. Because some people will have the same
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exact kind of experience and feel like, well, it wasn't
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negative to me. So I think plays a very powerful
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role in our perception. Because the worst I hear is
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when a person is being physically examined, and it can
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be incredibly traumatic, and there are people who describe some
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amount of pain with some of these examinations or even operations.
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That's pretty rare, and almost always they will relieve the pain.
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Not always. I am not convinced ets are coming here
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to hurt, harm, cause fear or take over. If they
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were truly hostile, I think with their advanced technology and
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their advance stabilities, we would already know this. I think
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there's a thing phenomena called my labs, a military abductions
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where our own governments are basically pushing a fear campaign
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and trying to portray ETS as negative and actually abducting
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people with fake abductions, particularly targeting contact ees well, which
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makes it very difficult for them, and using mind control
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techniques and drugs and hypnosis and the whole deal to
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fake a really negative encounter. And some of these stories
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get out there and people are saying, well, you know,
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my experience was horrific. I believe you, Yes it was.
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And I've interviewed some of these folks. One guy was
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a marine and he flat out said, yeah, they did
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all kinds of experiments on me. He was at Camp Pendleton,
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a great guy, a very wonderful man, but ultimately decided
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to know, my encounters have been horrific. So he's confused.
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But if is ET doing this or is it something
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else government agents? No, I don't think ETS are here
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to harm. And I know there are cases out there
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which people describe, oh, you know this is what they
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did to me. You know, it's again very controversial issue.
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This is my take on it, and I'll just close
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with this a very in depth look. The totality of
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onboard cases objectively shows a very prominent pattern of healing, guiding, teaching, warning,
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waking people up to our psychic abilities, which are all
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really good things for humanity. So my take on it
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is that overall it's positive. I think there probably are
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some malevolent species out there. Look at us, We're here
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on a planet who don't treat each other that well.
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Are they traveling to Earth to take people? I don't
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know that I would endorse that idea, but yeah, controversial
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to say the least.
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What would be the motivation of the government to make
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false abductions?
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I wish I could get into their minds too. I
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think it's all linked to the cover up. I think
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incidents like Roswell, the Roswell crash in nineteen forty seven,
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and many others where we have actually gained this technology,
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these craft, these bodies is playing a role here because
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it appears we do have this technology and it is
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being suppressed and withheld, And I think ultimately it comes
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down to greed, power and control. I think there's a
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lot more to unpack with this. It's not really my
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area of expertise, so I focus more on the contact
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era or you know subject. But it's a huge problem,
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and I think that's what's behind the cover up and
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the idea that our governments want to paint this as
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a negative phenomena, because just think what would happen if
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suddenly everyone on Earth developed their psychic abilities, became telepathic.
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We would overcome corruption if everyone knew that we didn't
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have to live in a society with money enslaving us.
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How quickly the world would change. So ultimately, I think
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the ET threat is to these the cabal, the illuminati,
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the one per centers, secret government, call them what you want,
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and they're doing everything they can to suppress this information
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from reaching all humanity.
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Well, we wouldn't want humanity to become empowered, now, would we.
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No, that's their greatest fear, I think, which is why
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the work you're doing is so important.
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Thank you. So, were any witnesses given information by the ets?
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You've talked and talked about some of that. Is there
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any other information that they were given that it really
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kind of changes the way we look at the world.
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Oh yeah, Yeah. Generally speaking, I've interviewed so many people
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and those, as I mentioned earlier, fully conscious contact. These
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are feeling far between the hundreds of people I've interviewed,
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it's maybe five ten would be generous. But one contacting
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I mentioned earlier, Dolly saffron I wrote a book called Symmetry.
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She's been given loads of information. That book was doing
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really well because I think it's really resonating with people
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who are searching for information about, you know, what is
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daily life like with the ets. You know, what information
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do they have. Working on a sequel of that book
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where we're really doubling down on the science that she
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has learned from them, but they've absolutely do communicate and
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impart tons of information to people on Yeah.
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So you mentioned also that abductees some tell, some don't.
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Even if they do, remember, how does that wager out?
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What percentage do tell and what percentage don't?
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Oh gosh, I'd say the vast majority of people don't
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come forward. Those that do often don't want their name
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to be used. Particularly when I started in the late
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nineteen eighties, the climate was much more hostile in terms
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of ridicule and skepticism and gas lighting, and it's still
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a huge problem. And some people, of course have difficulty remembering.
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But the more if you have a simple sighting, I
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think a person is much more likely to come forward.
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But if you have a humanoid in your bedroom or something,
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or you believe you're taken on board, people often don't
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even tell their own family, their spouse perhaps. And I
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can tell you that when I do interview somebody, almost always,
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you know, particularly if it's an extensive encounter, they will
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say something along the lines of some caveat. I don't
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do drugs, I've got no history of mental illness in
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my family. I've got a good job, I've got a
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good education. So these kinds of things turn up again
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and again.
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So it's the wing net thing, right, don't want to
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be a wing net exactly.
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People are very and I understand that they don't want
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to be portrayed as a complete idiot, which you know,
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I think we're all victims of the UFO cover up,
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is what it comes down to, the whole all of
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humanity has been essentially gas lit by are highest levels
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of oron military who are so disingenuous because they know
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it's real know it's real.
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Are there any connections with the UFOs and the paranormals
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such as Bigfoot and ghosts?
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Oh? Yes absolutely. This is another thing that took me
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a while to unpack because right from the beginning I
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started to get reports from people who are like, oh, well,
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you know my house is haunted, like huh, or you
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know I've had near death experiences. Lots of people contact
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to you. I've had near death experiences, certainly not all
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of them, but it does turn up. And I got
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my first big Foot UFO case, which was very puzzling
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to me when a gentleman described having a UFO land
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in his backyard and the next day big Foot showed up.
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We're we're going to have to take a break on
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that note, We're gonna have to take another station break.
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Please stay with us. Is Pearson and I continue to
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explore UFOs and the mysteries surrounding them. This is Mission
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Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org. What do they
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dot org. We're continuing our discussion with Preston Dinnet his
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website Prestondinnitt dot Weebley dot com. Preston, We've been talking
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a little bit about the government cover up. How large
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is it and how long has it been going on.
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It's worldwide and it's been going on for at least
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seventy to eighty years. Demonstrably, you know, this is not
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speculation by any means, because groups like the Citizens against
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UFO Secrecy actually sued the National Security Agency at one
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point demanding openness and transparency and received documents back that
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were entirely blacked out, I mean every single page. So
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we know the cover up is absolutely demonstrably true, and
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it appears that it is worldwide and at the very
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highest levels of government they are cooperating. I think it's
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tricky because you know, apparently some presidents are even out
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of the loop or heads of state, and the folks
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behind the cover up are hard to pinpoint because it
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appears that they are the highest levels of the military
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military industrial complex, which Eisenhower warned us against. But basically,
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intelligence agencies are absolutely behind this. It's no coincidence. I
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think that intelligence agencies were formed coinciding exactly with the
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modern age of upology in late nineteen forties. Also no
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coincidence that that's the atomic age when suddenly we reach
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the ability to destroy our entire planet. So I think
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that's when ETS began a very vigorous publicity campaign, because
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they did go to government world leaders and asked them
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to stop exploding nuclear weapons, asked them to be truthful
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and transparent, which of course did not happen. So I
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think they're conducting a grassroots campaign and showing themselves to
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as many people as possible. We have over a million
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We have a worldwide database of over a million documented
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cases ETS have disclosed, so they've absolutely done their part. Really,
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the rest is up to us. This government cover up
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is no joke. It is worldwide for sure.
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It being that massive, how do we know it's not
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other ETS that are behind it.
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I don't think there's any evidence of that whatsoever, in
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the fact that ETS are working very hard to counter
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the cover up. I wrote a book called Schoolyard UFO Encounters.
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May have heard of the Zimbabwe case in nineteen ninety
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six Aerial Elementary school. That's one of over one hundred
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cases where UFOs have covered or landed over schools like
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Westall High School in Melbourne, Australia, Hillsdale College in Michigan,
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Prestview Elementary School in Opa Laca, Florida, and many others.
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This points to what researchers call UFO displays. It could
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point to these major UFO waves that take place every
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couple of years over various locations on our planet. I
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always wrote another book this is so interesting of UFOs
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that were driving theaters. It's another very clever way for
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echis to introduce themselves to a fairly large audience. I've
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got over one hundred cases of this, and I think
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there's probably ten times that amount. So I think, yeah,
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eachi's have worked very hard to announce your presence. Look
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at the Capitol flyover in nineteen fifty two. Essentially they
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would have landed, I think on the White House lawn.
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It's so cliche. People asked, well, why don't they do that?
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They tried. What was our reaction? We scrambled jet fighters
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after them and tried to intercept them. So I think,
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you know, it's our own faults that we haven't had
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open official contact.
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With all the cell phones and cameras. Are we seeing
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an increase in documentation?
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Photographic evidence is very tricky. There's absolutely been some wonderful evidence.
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I would point to the komberg As Turkey footage in
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two thousand and six, seven and eight some of the
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best footage out there. There is an enormous amount of
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photographic evidence which I think is unimpeachable these days, however,
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with the advent of AI and photoshop and the hoaxing
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is off the charts. You can't trust most of what
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you see on social media platforms, and I just but
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it's just true. And I don't even really want to
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see these photographs that people are putting forth unless they're
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willing to stand behind it with an affid david, identify
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themselves and really go through the whole process of being investigated,
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because yes, many people have captured things on cell phones,
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but it's just not trustworthy this current day and age.
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So what does the government really know?
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From what I understand, they know far more than UFO researchers,
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probably more than most contactees. My understanding that this subject
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is at the top of their list in terms of
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urgency and the amount of money spent towards it. So
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I think they know that they are ets, that they
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are very advanced, that they do have these craft that
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can travel interstellar distances, and are doing their level best
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to reverse engineer it to the point that pretty much
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everything we see right now is probably reverse engineered craft.
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From what I understand, ets are not right here right now,
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our magnetic fields have collapse to about sixty percent. They're
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forty percent down. This is science you can look up.
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Don't believe me, do your own research. Don't believe anything
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I say. I would really encourage people to absolutely do
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your own research, do your due diligence. But our governments
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have absolutely and I think we know this from the
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huge number of whistleblower accounts and frankly first hand sightings
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from people who describe what looks like not genuine ET
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craft because they'll have rivets on it in the bolts
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and or make god awful noises worth flying these craft around,
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Make no doubt about it. What people are often seeing
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is our own craft.
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You mentioned the electromagnetic field of the Earth, and indeed,
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I know that thing's been wandering. They've even had to
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cease and desist landing airplanes, you know, the big jetliners
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with remote means, okay, with autopilot, which used to be safer,
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because the electromagnetic field of the Earth is becoming so erratic.
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Is this affecting the UFO encounters and their ability to
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get here, I guess is the question.
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Yeah, and I think this is why we've probably seen,
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you know, over one hundred cases of UFO crashes. People
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always say, well, the first one, man, that's how are
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they crashing? Well, accidents happen, and if you're using the
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magnetic field lines of our planet, gravitational magnetic field lines
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to navigate, and there's that unstable uh, this is probably
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why they are crashing. So yeah, this is a huge
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problem and it's had a profound effect I think on
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ET contact and why it's really not happening right now.
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This is what Dolly's told me. She says they bugged out.
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That's interesting because I've had a number of contactees tell
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me like, no, I haven't had an encounter in the
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last three years. So I think this is an area
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that we need to do a lot more research into.
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But if you follow the UFO databases, you'll see an
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enormous drop off of what I don't call them abductions
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because that is offensive to some of the people I've interviewed.
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I call them onboard experiences, which is a much more
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neutral term and accurate. I think but yeah, you drop off.
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Over the last three years.
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Or so, the Sun's been going crazy too unprecedented. Do
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you think that plays a part?
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I do. From what I understand, we're facing a extinction
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level event, a coronal mass ejection which will essentially drop
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down our electric grid to a point where it's irreparable,
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and perhaps a micro nova. And I think this is
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one of the reasons behind the cover up. Our government
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knows this, and they're moving into these dumbs deep underground
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military bases, collecting seeds and supplies and food and trying
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to survive this and kind of leaving all humanity to
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fend for itself. Absolutely, I think this is something everyone
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needs to do their research on. Look up gosh, what's
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his named, Ben Davidson. He has a website Space Weather Observers.
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You can see a lot of this information. He's kind
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of the go to guy for this. But yeah, this is,
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from what I understand, a natural cycle that our planet
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goes through, and in prior iterations we're lifted off by ets,
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but in prior iterations we are not as violent and
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warlike and greedy and divisive, and all the troubles that
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we're going through, which has really prevented us from evolving
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spiritually to the point where we need to be to
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have open official contact.
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I can see why they would be a little hesitant
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to give them the way we are operating right now.
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Do you think that the government will ever disclose these things?
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I do not, and I hate to say it, because
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when I got involved in this subject, people were saying, oh,
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disclosures on the horizon, and it never came. Yes, we've
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seen steps recently, but it's very much a dog and
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pony show. It's very drip dripped. The cover up is
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still in place. They've showed us little fuzzy images when
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we know they have much better footage. Let's face it,
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fighter jets are riddled with cameras pointing in every direction.
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Ask any military guy who they will tell you this.
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We have gun camera footage that is crisp and clear
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and absolutely conclusive, and that's never been released. In nineteen
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fifty four, allegedly there was a landing with President Eisenhower
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and numerous officials that was filmed. Gordon Cooper was there
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when UFO landed Edwards there far space and developed and
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saw the footage that's never been released. There's so much
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that has never been released. I don't think they will
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ever willingly be open and truthful and transparent