Verity

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello and welcome to medium litter at the show where two long time long distance best friends try to sharpen our media literacy skills by talking about a new release in theaters every week or in this case two new releases in theaters every week because this is our second episode of the week we just did digger on Monday and then we really wanted to talk about variety as well
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Emily Fay, my co-host is Monica Scott, and this episode is like big spoilers up top.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of those movies where it's like a thriller where the whole thing rests on twists and turns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you care about that, definitely pause, come back later after you've seen it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're not going to see it,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I bet, I bet you want to know what that twist is, and this is how you find out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As always, you can go to YouTube to watch full video episodes of Us Talk In.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that is about it, so enjoy the show!
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[SPEAKER_01]: hello back we're back we just we just couldn't wait to talk about verity yeah if you are watching the video you'll notice Emily is still in her Seattle hotel room and we're just set her what can I say 15 minutes of past since we recorded the last one but to maintain some theatrics
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've changed our shirts because, look, we were stacked showbiz, okay?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, it is important, the art of illusion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we decided we couldn't wait and we're going to talk about Varity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So here we go, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some might even say we're really good at manipulating the truth by changing our shirts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I'm going to do my synopsis first and listeners please understand that I just I hand wrote this five minutes ago so it's not as good as I usually can do with these and also it's handwritten so let's see if I stop understanding my own handwriting at some point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but here is the synopsis of the movie Verity in my words, um, struggling novelist, low in Ashley is approached to ghost write the final two books in a popular series by thriller sensation Verity Crawford.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Believing she's just going to Verity's going through Verity's notes, she agrees to stay at the author's home during the outlining process with Verity and her husband and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Arriving at the house, Lowen learns that Verity has paralyzed and catatonic from a car accident.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lowen is hesitant but gets to work in Verity's office when she discovers a manuscript of Verity's shocking autobiography.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When she starts to read it, Lowen learns that Verity is a horny maniac who killed her daughter and resolves and Lowen resolves to steal her life from her considering herself more worthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, when she tells Verity's husband Jeremy about the autobiography, he confronts his vegetative wife and it's revealed that she's been faking the state the whole time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: conspired to cover up their crime together, and lo and in Jeremy live happily ever after until she finds a letter from Verity in the floorboards that says Jeremy drugged her and faked her car crash in the first place That's the movie Verity Sucinct Okay, okay, here I go The dome Okay, I
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[SPEAKER_02]: Loan Ashley is a published author who is not doing very well and then her
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[SPEAKER_02]: agent is like, hey, these people want to meet with you, and then on the way to the meeting, she sees a guy get smushed by a car, and the blood gets all over her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then a man comes up, and he's like, hey, are you okay?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll help you wash it off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so then they go into coffee shop bathroom, he helps her wash it off, they have a moment, and then they separate, and then they go, and then she goes into her meeting, he's in the meeting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's in the meeting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: very green like who's like the most popular author in America who like right his written like 50 books she is in disposed and so they want low end to ghost right some books for her and they say that she has a ton of notes and stuff so they invite her to come stay at the house in Vermont like a big beautiful house and that's where she learns that
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Jeremy is Verity's husband, that's the guy, and Verity is...
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[SPEAKER_02]: catatonic after an accident and has like a nurse and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a son and a few months prior they had two kids, they had twins and the girl died in a canoeing accident.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so now there's just the boy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so then, low in his there, starts reading the notes and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then,
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[SPEAKER_02]: She starts seeing like it seems like Variety is like looking at her when she shouldn't be looking at her where it's like she's supposed to be in a totally like vegetative state but then she's like all of a sudden she's like looking at her and she's like ah and so then she tells Jeremy and Jeremy is like no she's she can't she's paralyzed she's catatonic doesn't even you know know what's going on and then
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[SPEAKER_02]: And also, low-end finds this hidden manuscript on a flash drive that is very, basically telling story of from the moment she met Jeremy and how they were like so obsessed with each other and then how like they had these kids and she hated these babies so much that she tried to smother one of them in their crib, but he like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: walked in, so she couldn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so then she was jealous that Jeremy seemed to be more obsessed with the kids than with her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So she tried to kill both the kids and the canoe accident, but only the daughter died.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then Loan brings that to Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He confronts Verity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Him and Loan kill her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But they're like, this was good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This was good of us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This was the right thing to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Loan, seven months later, we see that they're together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's pregnant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like moving away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then she finds this letter in the floor boards that says, because also the manuscript in the end of the manuscript,
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[SPEAKER_02]: when she realizes that Jeremy is not falling more in love with her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, I guess I'll just drive into a tree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so then there's a letter where she says, yeah, I've been thinking in this whole time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeremy, if you find this letter, I've taken crew the sun and I've taken him somewhere safe because Jeremy,
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[SPEAKER_02]: saw the manuscript, which was just a writing exercise and thought it was true and so then staged her trying to kill herself by driving to the tree and then thought she was paralyzed and then so she's been pretending this whole time because she knew he would try to kill her and so then low in is like, I don't know what the truth is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The end of podcast episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's been about an hour or 20.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the story of ferody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A ferody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to come out swinging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I loved this man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was a blast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, that is exactly, I was like sitting there in my chair being like, I'm having an absolute blast right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm having the time of my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have seen a handful of reviews that are like, oh, this is the bad movie of the fall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, I think they are aware of how
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like prestige lifetime shlock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That, oh my God, okay, we are, and they know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They know that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm the same page as I was doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cause again, while watching it, I was like, this is like a high budget lifetime movie with actual stars, which is like awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like stars that play are playing with, like the casting was so smart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: your perception of these stars like to put Dakota Fanning in the Wrong Dakota sorry fanning sorry fanning you're not in this one Johnson Europe They didn't get in here Putting Dakota Johnson in another
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[SPEAKER_01]: film adaptation of a grocery store sex novel is so genius.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It really is especially since she like so famously hated the experience of the safety shapes of great things like has been so open about it
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me she's like in on the joke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, of course one too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I I listen I don't again I'm not taking in people's opinions on Twitter or anything so I don't really know like consensus I've seen one or two reviews on like Hollywood reporter or whatever and I looked on letterbox and people were like fuck Dakota Johnson like she's so boring and I'm like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dicota Johnson get behind me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the only one who gets you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that her weird, like, sort of, like, dead-pan, dead-eyed thing that she always does was so perfect for this weird, just like, cipher of a character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm thrilled that you liked it because I was a lot of late, nervous that I was going to have to defend the movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, we'll be defending it together because no, I truly had the time of my life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so here is where I mad on Colleen Hoover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Never read one of her books.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not even really considered trying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not interested.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's allowed to exist, and I don't think it's a crime to be basic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that people are mean about her in a way that I'm like, just don't read it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what this is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's a lot of like, I think I get a little annoyed by the grand standing against her, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't write stuff for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also didn't read Harry Potter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also didn't read 50 shades of gray.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't read twilight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of us read Sally Rooney.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's okay to keep both of those people if love is too short.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, it's, I guess it's like the people who are just devouring Colleen Hoover books.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that the Colleen Hoover books are keeping them from different books.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that it's Colleen Hoover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or like prestige literary fiction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not Colleen Hoover or Zadiesmith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like...
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I just sort of like...
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not interested in reading the books and I won't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think I will defend people's right to just like what they like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I also don't like Taylor Swift and I think it's okay that people like Taylor Swift, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like Taylor Swift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See, and so it's just like not a crime to like kind of basic stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see so much like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I kind of read some of the stuff people say online where they're like, oh, people try to use, I don't like calling Hoover in the same way people use, I don't like Taylor Swift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's why I'm equating the two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're using it as an avatar for their own
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[SPEAKER_01]: good taste.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, it's just not special.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is an incredibly popular.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason for adaptations have been made in two years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see any of those other movies because I wasn't interested.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Totally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I-I-I-I-I was like-
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[SPEAKER_02]: With this movie, I was like damn I can't believe I'm like seeing a calling Hoover movie I'd probably be like my first and last but I'm like if if Apparently she does have other Psychological thrillers and I'm like I'll see those Sure, I think at the prestige treatment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will see them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I won't be seeing it ends with us But I will be seeing more like and then there's a big twist
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and like, I listen, there were definitely a lot of chunks of this movie where I was like, I can tell this is written not sophisticated, not in a sophisticated way, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not like, the dialogue is kind of goofy and it's just all a little goofy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The characters are really absurd,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that like show Walter and I think half it because I think you can have the way produced this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she bought the rights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I didn't double check that before we started because we just decided to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I would have more time to research.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure and half the way had the rights and produced the movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You she also, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She just bought the rights to yesterday year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just think she has, like, really interesting taste.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think she gets stuff, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I feel like she got what could be cool about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think Michael show Walter got what is interesting and, like, kind of funny about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Totally because there are so many, like, if you're playing like odds,
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[SPEAKER_02]: 99 out of 100 attempts at adaptation of this would have been really bad, but like then it's like one just gets it right and it's like luckily that is what this was Yeah, and it was completely over the top and like absurd But never winking at me about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it seemed to wear of it, but it wasn't like
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right agree where it was like there were lines where it was like obviously they know what this is funny Yeah, like But but it's not Dakota Johnson saying just like But I didn't pack for an event
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's funny!
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, what's talking like a person?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately, it's all so fucking stupid, but it's so fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is really really fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, Did you look up some of the book differences?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is fucking insane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is the first thing I did when I got home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was, was looking to the book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and let me guess to the
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[SPEAKER_01]: at home, co-hanger abortion that she tries to give herself that gives the child a scar on the face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did that stick with you the most?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, honestly, I was like, why didn't they include that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And half the way it was like, I have a line with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why would you not include that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a whole nother kid, two of the kids die.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Chastin is the name of the kid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's Chastin and then,
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh yeah yeah yeah so it's chastin is so it's chastin and Harper are the twins and then Drew is their younger brother and then she kills both the twins I couldn't figure out if she killed chastin with the peanut butter or not or if that was just an unfortunate accident.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what I read, what I read on the internet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I read was that Shaston is given peanut butter at a sleepover that Harper is also at, okay, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Harper doesn't, Harper lets Chaston die, but Harper's also autistic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's made explicit in the book.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hinted out, it's hinted out, but it, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, she's got glasses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think could be going on with her?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Truly, they're like clearly clearly she's not like everyone But yeah, that stuff is really crazy that that's the only book difference.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that hold on I have my notes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote three days ago Um, I think that is the only difference that really stuck out to me was the
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did something that stuck out to me just because, like, I don't really get this change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently in the book, the way they eventually kill Verity, is by Josh Hartnett, sorry, in the book he is not, Josh Hartnett, in the book he is just doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jerry, like, makes her vomit while laying down, then covers her nose and mouth so that it looks like she just choked on her own vomit in her sleep, which is so much more believable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've some, listen, not to be like true crime-brained, but I do have some notes about them trying to, okay, do this murder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't it true that they can very easily tell if somebody was dead before or after they were in the water, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they can, because there's water in the lungs or there's not water in the lungs, they can tell if you drown to death or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they can also tell if someone was maybe struggling against being attacked and they can also tell that you've been strangled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's like he was strangling her for like he was strangling her and she was threatening him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there would be a fuck ton of DNAs and DNA of his in her fingernails.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There would be like severe bruising around the throat is just like, and also,
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, a little bit like, um, why did you put her in the water if you were like, just make her just make her just suffocator?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of just like, she, I guess she just like got up and like walked into the wake.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the the vomit thing is way more believable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but the dumbest cops on earth was like a very funny element of that and I that was like that had to be a show Walter Inclusion to be like and the cop is just writing down like was working in office And it's a fan because I feel like Would they show the pile of books the variety his written which one
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, can't get over these names.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Verity Crawford sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lowen Ashley is so fucking funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is such a funny name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a funny name because like that variation of Ashley, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Ashley.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is no, that's kind of modern.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's no family name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a last name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am low in Ashley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But so very, he was supposed to be like a Colleen Hoover type writer, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that felt like a little bit of fantasy fulfillment, like, oh, and then she's on and then she's on hot ones and then she's on call her daddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then and then she's on good morning America, but they come to her house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like a little bit of like
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[SPEAKER_01]: fantasy for And everyone really respects her as an author Everyone thinks she's really good this Yeah, that's what it it felt like but I think you know I think it also felt
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[SPEAKER_01]: a little like, I, what I, from what I understand, I didn't read the book, obviously, and I never will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I did listen to like a book club type podcast about it to kind of get the sense of the beats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And from what I can tell, it seems like low in in the book is even more of just an empty cipher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because in the movie it's like this is like the empty is vessel of a person I've ever seen in my life it's made really explicit that she has no friends, that she doesn't know anybody that like she's such an empty vessel that you're kind of like, what could you possibly even be writing about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it got his attention.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I just, I do remember another book difference that I understood that I learned about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is that in the autobiography that low in fines, that very wrote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: chapter after chapter of Dick Worship about Jeremy, like, constant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they were like, it doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was, I think the podcast I listened to was, I think, called mean book club or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a two-hour episode and they were mean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they were right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they talked about how they were like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: In no world, would a woman have ever written this to me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's almost like, okay, did a gay guy break into her house?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And write this manuscript?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it's like, it's written, you know, it's one thing to be a horny character, but she is like, not...
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[SPEAKER_01]: she's not even kind of interested in her own pleasure in these pages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like
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[SPEAKER_01]: So excited to give him a blowjob, so excited to just excited about his dick for page after page and they were like, it was among, she's like, they were like, we read smut on this show sometimes and this was like, some of the most graphic stuff we've ever read.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a question for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think it's possible that Colleen Hoover has never actually had sex before?
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[SPEAKER_02]: doesn't seem possible right doesn't she have kids she just sort of like I bet this is what horny people think um yeah maybe she just doesn't feel desire yeah because I'm suffering now because I was more like on on reddit of looking up people who'd like to look and stuff and so many people were like
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I'm not a prude, but there's just so much sex in this book that honestly it like got really old.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that makes me kind of think that without the sex, this book might be like 60 pages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a novella.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a novella like the manuscript.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the autobiography, the short story autobiography.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, and I think that in the active adaptation they did a very good job of, you know, it's still had a decent amount of sex in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were still a sexy, like thriller.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but in kind of a pulpy like right fun way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not in like uh, not in like uh, Amazon off I don't know like Not in what I published kind of I don't think like like it was like showing the sex which was obviously a big part of the story Yeah, without it was it clearly wasn't like trying to make anyone horny
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was just kind of, it was just fun, you know what, you know what movie it made me think of immediately and it's not the same type of story, but what life is life?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, I've never seen that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever seen what lies beneath?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this is art.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is a simple favor like this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there even a man in that movie?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, there is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a simple favor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Henry Golding and then Blake lively disappears and Anna Kendrick who's become friends with her is like both trying to find her and stealing her husband.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, very funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then it turns out Blake lively who is gone missing is like a psychopath.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, documentary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so the, I just kidding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not taking your side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't, I don't care about that beef.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so what lies beneath is Harrison Ford and Michelle Fyfer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's from the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, they live in a beautiful house on a lake in Maine,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it has been 25 years, I think, since I've seen this movie, so go easy on me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a professor, and Michelle Fiverr feels like she's seeing ghosts, and she feels like haunted by something, and she doesn't know what's going on, and Harrison Ford is like, no, no, there's no ghost, you're being crazy, stopping hysterical, and then hit
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she finds out that he had no fair with a student and then he killed the student because the student was going to reveal the affair to someone and so that ghost is the mistresses ghost trying to tell her what Michelle fight for and what happened with her husband and
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it had that like sexy like it was very funny because it's like I mean they surely never make movies about like older people who look like older people anymore But it was like two older stars in like a sexy sort of like romance thriller 90s Like era of the erotic thriller and then it just kind of went away
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, and I just loved these types of movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're like, it's such a good, I can't believe I'm saying this about a Collean Hoover movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just won't maybe say that periodically because it really is shocking to me that I liked it so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a feeling when I saw the cast, but I saw Michael show Walter, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I think that these types of movies like really round out like the offering that is out for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree because it's also, I think it's really good for people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People, I think everyone loves like a twist and a little like, but not everyone loves horror.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people don't like to do horror, so it's, it is fun for there to be something like this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's making so much money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even see in a couple of bad reviews and I was like, oh no, is this going to bump?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I honestly don't know if a Colleen Hoover movie like can bomb, especially when it's a popular, like, isn't this one of her most popular books?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I don't know enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know very little about her to be honest and like her,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, book, geography.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, same, I, I moved gold because I was like, is this supposed to be like calling, who, like, how many?
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[SPEAKER_02]: His calling, whover written a tower, like a full tower of books, like they show in the movie, and I was like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Holy shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The things I know about her are also like, I know like loose, biographical information that I like generally kind of respect like that she was self-published at first and then got the offer and has like taught herself how to, you know, I like what people teach themselves how to do a thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's cool that she succeeded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she was like a social worker or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a softness towards her and listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't necessarily align with her fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't have the same taste as them typically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was sitting next to quite a few of them at the screening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've glad they had had a nice time and they were so excited and probably drunk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, girls need out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They all guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Many kids at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Women's night out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Women.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, their kids are in college actually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why they.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want the women who are sitting next to me is a group of six Colleen Hoover heads who co-ho co-ho I think Colleen Hoover fans say co-ho Wonder I learned that perfect so six co-ho heads next to me and Raudy when they got here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I turned to Alex.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like the same there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather sit next to teenage boys
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather sit next to unattended children.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were like really loud when they got in and it was still the trailer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this was like acceptable, ish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were like pulling their phones out and like taking pictures of each other and taking
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[SPEAKER_01]: Facebook's camera not the phone camera so that they were just they were putting it right in the back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really you got the full immersive experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This was this was what 40 X-Varity is
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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot that you sent me a post that there's a variety of 40 What in what way in what way and now after seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am like in what way It's like it's rocking you during the sex right during the canoe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just Tipped you It's throws a water at you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am so I guess during the car scene.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I don't know, but for the actuality is so it's like, I I kind of want to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just to see what's going on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I would have seen it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do like that I saw it on the AMC early access screening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did as well with the intro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I left out loud at oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just like
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that like Anne Hathaway and Dakota Jonson are such perfect like foils because it's like the most earnest like theater kid like Actress there is versus the most like just like
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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually don't really care about any of this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actress, there is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just love Dakota Jones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like her too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I find her completely charming, and I find the thing that people describe as like boring about her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I find it to be coolness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like to me, she's cool, and she's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sort of like she's got the she's first of all to me like Pinnacle of like a sexy lady like she's cool and sexy and she just has this like aloof
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[SPEAKER_01]: coolness that I'm desperate to seem like and I'm just like, no, I'm like a trembling chihuahua come here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, she is so cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I hear she's a bitch, which I think really goes along with that in a lot of ways.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of cool girls are huge bitches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just how it goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, I may, I want to say, who do you hear that from?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it men?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alex, Alex quotes this tweet to me sometimes, you know, hashtag feminist has been where he was like, he was like, oh, this is one of those examples of this tweet, which is like, again, we don't remember who tweeted it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we can't credit the person, I'm sorry, someone else said this, but it was like, men will go out of their, will bend over backwards to prove a woman is dumb or rude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as opposed to just admitting their funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did hear it from a girl Burrista.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also, that's basically a man to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just kidding, sorry, Burrista.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Girl Burrista and Holly in LA Hollywood though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that you guys are bad, but I'm saying that you
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[SPEAKER_01]: have a short fuse and what is rude or not rude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's true, we don't know if she's a bitch, but she is a cool girl and I think in the right role, like I think she's so funny and everything she does outside of acting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she actually shines most when she's not acting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But in this, like there's, and look, I can't tell you why the like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Emotionless, deadpan, not committing to blinds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Things works for me when it's her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't work for me with Sidney Sweeney.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't tell you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Dakota, Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep almost calling her fanning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I just, I think I like saying that name better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more comfortable on my mouth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It rolls off the tongue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Dakota, Johnson,
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[SPEAKER_01]: has the coolness, has the like aloofness, but I think that she is also feels warm despite that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think she has like, uh, she feels funnier, she, she, and I, uh, I did not saying that this is Sydney Swenie's fault necessarily because I can't quite pinpoint why it feels this way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Sydney Swenie never feels warm, never feels funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't read like she's in on it the way Dakota Johnson reads like she's in on it all the time and when she's flat and affect lists, which I don't even necessarily Feel that about her, but I know that that is what the read is that most people have with her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I just
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I just find her so charming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I can't see her faults.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I guess I was also, I was just thinking about it because of the house made.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are so many similar story beats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, when Dakota Johnson does it, it really just makes me laugh, which is just sitting at the table and one seeing eating something and she goes,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, she goes, hmmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like she's being funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought she was being funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to me it's like, I want to clarify that I think she's being funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She knows she's being funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's I think within the context of the story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is then funny when someone is just like, Gosh, this woman is just so charming and electric when she goes, but no, Dakota Johnson absolutely knows she's being funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she knows, she knows, she knows, she knows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when she, it's so fucking funny when she is reading the manuscript and then when she gets to the line about like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Either hate the first time when she's like, and she's like disgusted and Rose it in the trash Because it's like it's Almost like okay, I don't mean this in a mean way to call me in Hoover, but you know like there's so many
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[SPEAKER_02]: things where it's like, it's funny because of the contrast where it would be like, I don't know, Shakespearean trained actors like reading a sketch that some third graders wrote for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was really giving that to me in a lot of ways where it's like, it's so stupid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, it's these good actors who are like, they're taking it seriously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's what it is, is like, and you know, there's some stuff that can work in like a beach read thriller book that is simply never gonna make sense on the screen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to put these like talented and compelling people in the situations and have them do the thing, having Josh Hartnett be like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They also people don't react like that when they get splattered with like many blood and guts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was so shocking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was, I was like, okay, how are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was really, I just like, like, I knew it would be a sort of like crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I had no idea that it was so violent right out the gate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I, from what I understand, that's the first line in the book, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the execution of also like the written word in the movie, I think can sometimes be like irritating in other movies, and I found it well executed here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, just having, okay, like, I'm loving Josh Hornets second career as doting dad who's also evil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Josh Hartner is like I don't know what which he got cast in first if like trap or this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a long to make these.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think like I think it was trap for some reason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I for the Colleen Hoover audience age group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very smart casting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, very smart casting because like yeah, we were there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, I'm not like that far away from age from these women.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we were there the first coming of Josh Hartnett and it's very smart casting to sort of put him in the like charming handsome husband role
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[SPEAKER_01]: that is yet dark side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Such a father.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so there's lots of discussion amongst the coho heads out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's something that I didn't even think of until I got on Reddit that there's team letter and team manuscript because watching the movie,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, my bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just took that last letter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I just took that as like the truth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like, it sucks that Dakota Johnson is like, oh no, we murdered an innocent woman and also my husband is evil who I'm carrying his baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just was like, I took that as gospel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it was, I think, God, I looked it up online because that's the only way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I realized that people have very differing views and I was looking into why people think each one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't the text of the movie that you're supposed to question it though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, just making sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of thought that Dakota Johnson was just trying to convince herself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because if it's just the truth, that's very upsetting and has really bad ramifications for her future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I kind of just thought she was trying to convince herself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I could definitely see that being.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know which one I suppose I want to just believe the manuscript because I kind of liked
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of liked the evil character.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I just was so fun to see like an evil bad mom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just sort of like a horny cipher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's also like the thing is when it comes to the manuscript, both possibilities are so silly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think if I had to rank them,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably the silliest is that she would just write all these evil things she did for whom why would she do such a thing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's an exercise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's for herself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm talking about if she actually did these things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If she, if the, if the, if, if team manuscript is correct, right, which is like, what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, why would you do this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then be like, ah, let me, let me sit down and write down all of the murder I did, let me confess to murder really quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then computer doesn't save that anywhere, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the silly, it's the writing exercise of like, look, I get it, that's just really funny if the whole thing hinges on like, the villain was the writing exercise!
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think also like you're doing that writing exercise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Might be smart to be like this is a writing exercise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am doing I am doing an exercise where I say the opposite of what happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This I actually loved my babies, then that's why I said I tried to kill my babies And I don't know I just I did like the representation for like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alex called this other other mommy, because it was an evil mommy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's funny how the women who love calling Hoover, who I feel like are
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[SPEAKER_02]: it is a lot of house yeah it's it is a lot of like just moms and stuff they love this sick shit they love it they love this is a really sick book they love the co-hanger abortion that left a scar on her daughter's face
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[SPEAKER_01]: That story genuinely sounds like something that pro-life for someone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone in my life who I won't name would like tell me was a real story, like a, you know, Oh, I saw this on Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw someone share their story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just got on Facebook to take a picture of myself, and they saw this horrible story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it listeners, if you, if listen, if you, I'm so sorry if you didn't make it to the early access screening of Verity, but the intro was Josh Hartner, Dakota Johnson,
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[SPEAKER_01]: and Anne Hathaway, sitting in nice chairs in a nice room somewhere, somewhere in century city, introducing the movie, saying, thank you so much for coming to see the movie, where we're going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's only darkness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I went, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Alex had his mouth covered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were like, what was this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the coho head next to me, like absolutely shot my direction and was like mad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt bad to laugh at the things she loves, like I really didn't mean to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just like, if you've never read the book, you have no context and you're like, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you're like, this seems like a line or something, but what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, it was so fucking funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You said that they reacted when there was a calling Hoover.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When was that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, um, so she walks into that publishing place and calling in Hoover is the receptionist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and they went, uh,
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's so exciting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They said that's our plain blond lady.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's your shoes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved how, I mean, there were just so many things where it was just like not how human would react in any situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I loved that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Dakota Johnson throwing out this thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The second she gets to like the juiciest part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's just like, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's a, she's a thriller writer who doesn't want anything thrilling and it's like that was like I can't I can't even look at this I'm disgusted but also truly just like On a dime is like Killer finish her off finish her off
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[SPEAKER_01]: that moment really made me laugh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm sorry that twist was so fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like in quick succession, the twists were happening like and half of the way starts talking and you're like, oh my god, it was real.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's something that I, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: really liked in a not zero irony way that I thought was like legit done really well was um this scary moments where verity is just like they're we're like they really got me like those are really good those were scary like yeah sunglasses moment make me jump
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[SPEAKER_02]: When she's walking in the hallway, when low-end is making out with Jeremy, and she's just slowly walking towards them, that was like fucking creepy, and then even though you know it's coming, like when she does snap out of it to talk to Jeremy, it's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, I'm gonna be honest, I was unsure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think because she didn't react, low and goes in and pushes a pin into her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hand to try to get her out of faking it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she doesn't react, and I'm like, oh, maybe low in it is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just, I think that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they were playing, even though Dakota Johnson is so likable, I was like, low-end's not crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think you're kind of supposed to be like, ooh, neither of these women are like, amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Low-end deciding, like, your life is mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I deserve it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's maybe not like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: ethically the most amazing thing a character has ever done I agree I think I just from it's just there's so many thrillers where it's something like this and then it's like the husband's evil the husband's evil the whole time that I was like sure I don't think Colleen Hoover is the one to break that trend
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, although she really seems to like men, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: She does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And certainly, and it seems like most...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Most penises.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, good for her husband.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's really into that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: According to the book, maybe her husband has the most gorgeous penis, someone's ever seen, where it has, like, photogenic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're just stunning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she just thinks they're all like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems from my Reddit digging, that more people think manuscript real than letter real.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, even though I would have been inclined just because I think the letter, the, the series of events with the letter makes more sense to me, people seem to think and also people are like, because apparently they're like he did read the manuscript really early on and why would he be letting the sun hang out with her all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: if he had I look I actually cannot follow all the specifics because I feel like that they don't actually add up but um it's not inviting you to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of people are team manuscript real apparently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would like to pose a theory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that the reason more people are team manuscript real is that perhaps calling Hoover readers need a happy ending.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mmm, and then it's just like they did the right thing every things good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're all good here They were in the right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is not an accusation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are allowed to want whatever you want I kind of prefer a manuscript real myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm I'm yeah, I'm there with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's worth I do like I do like dabbling in
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-oh, it's sad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You killed the wrong lady because the implications of the, of the, of the letter one are heroing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, too hard to wrap your head around to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So kind of like, low in, she's like, like, hear her out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, villains always should be allowed to like, give their monologue about why they did things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really interesting though that Anne Hathaway doesn't get to say anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, they just kill her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of disappointed, but also we thought that was cool because it felt more like shocking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, oh shit, she's really dead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, there's still so much of this movie left and like she's like dead in the lake dead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I kept expecting maybe in the lake like her eyes were going to open or something, but no, she's like she's dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they treated her like some curse that was lifted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a moment that really stood out to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, this movie is not inviting me to criticize individual moments, but when he's like, just borrow my combative's wife's dress and go out for us to go on his sexy date.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They she put picks a dress and they flashed to and half the way meeting him in the in the dress And then they showed a coat of Johnson in clearly a different dress Right, I it had different straps that had different construction entirely such a different dress and
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the implication was that it was the same dress.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or at least I guess like it's like, oh, that dress was red.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This dress is red.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that code of Johnston would have known that the dress was red.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the manuscripts said that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But even if it did, there are lots of red dresses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many addresses and she was just picking address that would look good on our body and their bodies are so different, you know, that's just the same not the same thing is going to look good on each person I did like in that scene when Josh Hartner is like are you having a good time I can't tell and she's like no, I just look like this and it's like
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it's good that we're like talking about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think it's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It gets funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other sort of thing I struggled a little bit with is
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[SPEAKER_01]: What kind of wood was that headboard made out of?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was like, I have a real, I have a lot of stuff about like teeth, like teeth, like gross me out, like so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that, I actually had to look away because like, it was giving the effect of like someone about to be like fucking curb stomped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so listeners, if you didn't watch the movie,
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a sex scene between Verity and Jeremy where she has an orgasm and bites the headboard so hard, there's a permanent toothmark, teeth, like full row of teeth in the headboard and then later when low in has sex with Jeremy, she does the same thing to like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to like prove something in her head to verity like she's taking over her spot and it's just like a decade has passed between these two bites and this wood is that soft this whole time and there's no what's going on with this wood I've never encountered wood that soft no I yeah it just looked
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did because obviously this is a movie that there's a lot of merch for and I've been seeing a lot of that post about the merch I think you can count on calling Hoover fans to buy a bunch of bullshit
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, book fans, I think in general, like book series people, it's it's a merch heavy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so on the medium literate feed I've just been getting a lot of that stuff and one of the things is a little one of those like wind tumblers with a lid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it's like metal or plastic probably metal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's wood grain with the little bite mark.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It ain't near the rims Like that's a very Horny wine tumbler to be carrying around that should have been a popcorn bucket It's a big popcorn bucket It's a bed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a full bed We're just excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a five-barg
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or it's like a drink a drink cup that's like the full like stone bath tub they showed Dakota Johnson masturbating in With like just the murkyest water you've ever seen Why is the water sky blue and opaque I've never seen See that book whatever that is I don't think
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it milk?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it milk and water?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I honestly hope it's that because otherwise she's getting a UTI from whatever fucking weird lush bath bombs she put in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever like stitch bath bombs she put in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is so off topic, but if you have ever seen There was a TikTok video like months ago This is so this is the lamest podcasting on earth, but for some reason I have to tell you this right now There was a there was a TikTok of like a lush bath bomb that was like Yoshi Yoshi's egg
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[SPEAKER_01]: and they put it in the bath for a little kid and they're like, you know, she's gonna come out of there and it was like green, green, green and then it was like blood red and it started screaming and crying because I thought she died.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the way it was coming out was so violent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to bath bombs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's no other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're here not good for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never understood about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like smelling like stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I get it in that sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what's supposed to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's supposed to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's supposed to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's supposed to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she fled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, anyway.
01:00:31.386 --> 01:00:32.647
[SPEAKER_02]: That was so funny.
01:00:33.588 --> 01:00:47.005
[SPEAKER_02]: Of, I, okay, would you, would you like to hear about the apparently controversial epilogue extra chapter that was added, I didn't learn anything
01:00:47.225 --> 01:00:47.525
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:00:47.666 --> 01:00:50.748
[SPEAKER_02]: It was added to like some later edition.
01:00:51.288 --> 01:00:54.031
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the original was published in 2018.
01:00:54.371 --> 01:00:58.414
[SPEAKER_02]: Then there was like a collector's edition in 2022 that had an extra chapter epilogue.
01:00:58.995 --> 01:00:59.795
[SPEAKER_02]: And I read it.
01:00:59.815 --> 01:01:01.577
[SPEAKER_02]: I felt full PDF of it online.
01:01:02.998 --> 01:01:04.779
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's so it starts.
01:01:06.697 --> 01:01:12.780
[SPEAKER_02]: very shortly after we end the movie the book she's pregnant by off they go.
01:01:13.601 --> 01:01:17.342
[SPEAKER_02]: That would wait another question I had how was that letter ever supposed to be found?
01:01:18.263 --> 01:01:28.808
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways um so they have moved to North Carolina just totally at random and they are like keeping this all super super secret.
01:01:29.268 --> 01:01:33.671
[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess in the book she's not releasing them under her name
01:01:37.132 --> 01:01:42.675
[SPEAKER_01]: And they, oh yes, I will say I'd listen to them talk about how they come up with the pen name in the book.
01:01:42.755 --> 01:01:43.255
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
01:01:43.275 --> 01:01:44.816
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, let me help you.
01:01:46.696 --> 01:01:50.418
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the name of your childhood pet and what street did you go up on?
01:01:50.438 --> 01:01:54.680
[SPEAKER_01]: So they do the like, what's your porn star name and what's your stripper name?
01:01:54.700 --> 01:01:57.921
[SPEAKER_01]: Like those stupid Facebook meme name things.
01:01:58.602 --> 01:02:00.322
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, mine would be Fiji Melaluka.
01:02:00.522 --> 01:02:03.724
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, go on.
01:02:06.725 --> 01:02:20.646
[SPEAKER_02]: So they move so that they're like we don't want anyone to know where to gather like her publisher doesn't know no one knows because like then that would be suspicious And so they're in they're in north or South Carolina can't remember
01:02:21.487 --> 01:02:28.210
[SPEAKER_02]: they're living in a beach house, really keeping to themselves, and she is really insecure.
01:02:28.290 --> 01:02:30.951
[SPEAKER_02]: She still feels like haunted by a variety.
01:02:31.271 --> 01:02:33.212
[SPEAKER_02]: She feels like she's in competition with her.
01:02:33.252 --> 01:02:44.276
[SPEAKER_02]: She feels like insecure about her, and she's always comparing herself to like manuscript variety, basically, because that's the only variety she knew.
01:02:44.576 --> 01:02:45.897
[SPEAKER_02]: And so she's like jealous
01:02:50.859 --> 01:02:53.801
[SPEAKER_02]: talking about like they only ever have very like sweet sex.
01:02:53.901 --> 01:02:55.982
[SPEAKER_02]: It's never like explosive, you know?
01:02:57.382 --> 01:03:01.705
[SPEAKER_02]: And so the babies like three months old, they live on the beach.
01:03:02.285 --> 01:03:08.868
[SPEAKER_02]: Crew is like showing scary tendencies.
01:03:09.589 --> 01:03:13.831
[SPEAKER_02]: Like at one point he like puts the baby outside because it's crying.
01:03:18.563 --> 01:03:42.613
[SPEAKER_02]: this would have shown up much earlier with crew also like that would yeah the if the baby stuff was real where she's like I just let him cry all day and then this would have been the little violent child on her and saying stuff like the baby's just gonna die anyways and so she's like oh I think that crew might be a little psychopath and so then they're in North Carolina or South Carolina
01:03:43.053 --> 01:03:53.482
[SPEAKER_02]: They go to the beach a lot like these empty beaches where there's no one there because they're so paranoid about being caught and they're at the beach one day and this woman comes up to them and she's like
01:03:55.188 --> 01:03:56.529
[SPEAKER_02]: She recognizes crew.
01:03:56.849 --> 01:03:58.851
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeremy's off somewhere else.
01:03:59.011 --> 01:04:05.036
[SPEAKER_02]: She recognizes crew and lo and is like, how does this woman know them?
01:04:05.496 --> 01:04:10.621
[SPEAKER_02]: And then she sees the woman put together like, when crew says about the baby, like that's my sister.
01:04:11.161 --> 01:04:15.224
[SPEAKER_02]: Like she sees the woman put it together and then Jeremy comes over.
01:04:15.625 --> 01:04:18.667
[SPEAKER_02]: And so this woman like has clocked to like, okay.
01:04:19.968 --> 01:04:22.110
[SPEAKER_02]: This woman, who I guess,
01:04:23.625 --> 01:04:35.094
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember if she had seen low and before like at the grocery store or something when she was in Vermont, but like so she knows and so she's like, hmm, and so then Jeremy drowns her in the ocean.
01:04:39.431 --> 01:04:43.992
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Jeremy, this can be your first solution to every problem.
01:04:44.012 --> 01:04:46.132
[SPEAKER_01]: First, hey, first thought, best thought.
01:04:46.212 --> 01:04:56.415
[SPEAKER_02]: First idea, best idea, so he is like, guys, go back to the car and then drowns this woman Patricia in the sea and leaves her there to be found.
01:04:57.215 --> 01:05:03.256
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they go home and Lowen is just kind of like, hmm.
01:05:05.267 --> 01:05:06.167
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this bad?
01:05:07.227 --> 01:05:12.168
[SPEAKER_02]: She's kind of like, hmmm, there's been two, am I like gonna be third?
01:05:13.869 --> 01:05:15.609
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's that.
01:05:16.429 --> 01:05:19.029
[SPEAKER_01]: Not if you don't cause any problem to the end.
01:05:20.750 --> 01:05:24.590
[SPEAKER_01]: Not if you just be cool, listen.
01:05:25.431 --> 01:05:33.652
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I totally get that if you're only understanding of your husband's ex-wife,
01:05:35.260 --> 01:05:43.727
[SPEAKER_01]: Late wife is the manuscript where she's the horniest woman that's ever walked the plan at.
01:05:44.688 --> 01:05:51.314
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you could be like, oh, maybe I'm not living up to maybe I'm not living up to something.
01:05:56.939 --> 01:05:57.960
[SPEAKER_01]: That's really funny.
01:05:58.240 --> 01:05:59.982
[SPEAKER_02]: And apparently a lot of
01:06:02.023 --> 01:06:13.151
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, coho, heads, or like, they don't, it's a controversial epilogue because they're like, it doesn't sound like the character.
01:06:13.171 --> 01:06:16.193
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it all the acting out of character?
01:06:16.793 --> 01:06:19.815
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm like, I don't know, because I didn't read the book, you know, right?
01:06:19.835 --> 01:06:21.276
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:06:21.296 --> 01:06:21.917
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:06:21.977 --> 01:06:22.497
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:06:22.677 --> 01:06:23.098
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:06:23.398 --> 01:06:30.643
[SPEAKER_02]: All I know is that this is the best writing I've ever seen and these pros are making me cry, but aside from that, I just don't know.
01:06:32.044 --> 01:06:40.271
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, and do they probably don't like it because that is definitive letter letter is true, stuff, right?
01:06:40.431 --> 01:06:45.716
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess like it's either that, I mean, yeah, yeah, I guess so.
01:06:46.096 --> 01:06:52.281
[SPEAKER_02]: It's either that because then, but she's also like, okay, well, but he only does it when it's like to protect his family.
01:06:52.362 --> 01:06:53.202
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's either that.
01:06:54.263 --> 01:07:03.413
[SPEAKER_02]: or just basically all three of these people are psychos, which is what I'm actually kind of inclined to believe.
01:07:03.473 --> 01:07:06.937
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all three of these people are
01:07:10.521 --> 01:07:11.142
[SPEAKER_01]: Not well.
01:07:11.342 --> 01:07:13.665
[SPEAKER_02]: It's also so rude.
01:07:13.905 --> 01:07:23.075
[SPEAKER_02]: How Jeremy like never read Verities like fucked up books, but then when Lowen writes one of her fucked up books.
01:07:23.555 --> 01:07:26.338
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, yes, can't wait to read it, baby
01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:32.044
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, it's a little confusing because he loves her first, but he's like, I read it.
01:07:32.745 --> 01:07:33.365
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved it.
01:07:33.426 --> 01:07:34.507
[SPEAKER_01]: It's brilliant.
01:07:35.007 --> 01:07:38.371
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's saying, I never wanted to read anything again.
01:07:38.431 --> 01:07:39.071
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Yucky.
01:07:39.111 --> 01:07:39.872
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it.
01:07:39.892 --> 01:07:40.433
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:07:41.434 --> 01:07:42.395
[SPEAKER_02]: What's your deal, Jeremy?
01:07:44.232 --> 01:07:44.932
[SPEAKER_01]: this guy.
01:07:45.552 --> 01:07:46.573
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy.
01:07:46.593 --> 01:07:49.293
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we, I think we did it.
01:07:49.393 --> 01:07:54.194
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we sufficiently advocated for Verity the movie.
01:07:54.514 --> 01:07:57.195
[SPEAKER_02]: I have one more thing to tell you that I saw an Instagram.
01:07:57.795 --> 01:07:58.435
[SPEAKER_02]: It was okay.
01:07:58.455 --> 01:08:05.997
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was at Riegel and it was severity of this weekend and get one free small Mars candy.
01:08:10.178 --> 01:08:11.118
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
01:08:14.981 --> 01:08:22.860
[SPEAKER_02]: how small it looked pretty small it looked like a fun sized M&M
01:08:24.507 --> 01:08:25.568
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so funny.
01:08:26.048 --> 01:08:29.370
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, it makes sense to me with the audience.
01:08:29.470 --> 01:08:35.973
[SPEAKER_02]: The guys have been like, they are doing so much, like just, they are pumping out a lot of bullshit.
01:08:36.133 --> 01:08:37.654
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen a lot of tote bags.
01:08:39.375 --> 01:08:40.295
[SPEAKER_02]: Not to funny at the end.
01:08:40.455 --> 01:08:44.978
[SPEAKER_02]: In person, but just on like, there's a lot of variety merch.
01:08:45.298 --> 01:08:55.104
[SPEAKER_02]: And Verity, I will say, is the only calling Hoover book I've ever considered reading because I do like a thriller or whatever, right?
01:08:55.204 --> 01:09:01.347
[SPEAKER_02]: But then I was just like, man, it's just not going to be good.
01:09:01.367 --> 01:09:11.133
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is the perfect kind of thing to me to just see the movie not read the book, because it's not like the book is like good.
01:09:14.397 --> 01:09:18.100
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a fun way to just get the silly fun story.
01:09:18.120 --> 01:09:18.220
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:09:19.801 --> 01:09:31.511
[SPEAKER_02]: And I do love that because it's calling Hoover, it's so glossy in a way that like this fucking movie never would be this glossy if it wasn't calling Hoover.
01:09:32.051 --> 01:09:36.174
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, because she's so popular, they're like, let's make it so big budget.
01:09:37.455 --> 01:09:39.217
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's so cool.
01:09:39.437 --> 01:09:40.898
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like nice.
01:09:40.918 --> 01:09:43.741
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I hope the Verity, I hope calling Hoover fans like it.
01:09:43.921 --> 01:09:45.422
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually have no sense.
01:09:45.923 --> 01:09:49.025
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, except for the ladies next to me, I guess.
01:09:49.926 --> 01:09:51.728
[SPEAKER_01]: But they were drunk, so I don't know what they thought.
01:09:54.590 --> 01:10:02.692
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's cool that this is so glossy and that we got and that like regular, you and me regular people got a glossy thriller.
01:10:02.712 --> 01:10:15.135
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that Colleen Hoover fans got like, I think a very well-made version of one of the things they love because the the other ones they may like them.
01:10:15.195 --> 01:10:19.516
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually I outside of it ends with us have like never heard about any
01:10:25.297 --> 01:10:28.118
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, there was one with like, Michael Monroe.
01:10:29.238 --> 01:10:38.220
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and then there was also one with Michelle, No, Alison, something, Alison Williams.
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:39.680
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a person?
01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:42.541
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, and Dave Franco.
01:10:42.921 --> 01:10:43.501
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:10:46.802 --> 01:10:52.783
[SPEAKER_01]: And those all have felt like two, two, three.
01:10:54.952 --> 01:11:03.359
[SPEAKER_01]: earnest I those are the books though that are like trouble troubled relationship dynamic books so it's just like very makes sense at those.
01:11:04.099 --> 01:11:13.407
[SPEAKER_01]: Shmalti but like earnest books about a serious situation so I get why those wouldn't get the glossy treatment and this deserved it.
01:11:14.656 --> 01:11:15.176
[SPEAKER_02]: totally.
01:11:15.397 --> 01:11:19.219
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, it ends with us was, yeah, glossy.
01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:23.161
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess because that one, I think that like is her most popular book or something.
01:11:23.782 --> 01:11:37.751
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, yeah, I did learn that, but that one was also just like such a mess that it's like, I can't even tell at this point like, I don't know that how do I want to say this?
01:11:38.967 --> 01:11:46.993
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that it got a fair shake as a movie because of all the mess around it.
01:11:47.093 --> 01:11:52.817
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, I think fans loved it or didn't or whatever, I don't know.
01:11:54.258 --> 01:11:56.960
[SPEAKER_01]: But then like people who aren't fans were just kind of like...
01:11:57.974 --> 01:12:00.176
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not touching that.
01:12:00.216 --> 01:12:00.656
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:12:01.057 --> 01:12:05.300
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I read the Wikipedia of the book, and I was like, no, sure.
01:12:05.320 --> 01:12:05.621
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
01:12:05.801 --> 01:12:06.201
[SPEAKER_02]: No thing.
01:12:06.221 --> 01:12:07.462
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm good.
01:12:08.103 --> 01:12:13.768
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, for this to be able to have like, actually like such a beautiful house.
01:12:13.968 --> 01:12:18.972
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, oh my god, also Dakota Johnson in the beginning just going, is that a field?
01:12:19.393 --> 01:12:21.234
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so obviously not a field.
01:12:21.555 --> 01:12:23.676
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very clearly not a field.
01:12:25.715 --> 01:12:26.936
[SPEAKER_01]: Also this is such a fun.
01:12:27.036 --> 01:12:35.241
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I get that like when once it snows you can't tell what you're looking at like it just Snow does really like, but they show like a drone shot.
01:12:35.481 --> 01:12:36.982
[SPEAKER_02]: It did not look like a field.
01:12:37.062 --> 01:12:44.326
[SPEAKER_01]: It looked like a lake but it's also just a funny question that no human would ask
01:12:48.589 --> 01:12:49.390
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
01:12:49.971 --> 01:12:53.395
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that like it's it's so odd.
01:12:53.936 --> 01:12:58.182
[SPEAKER_02]: When I think everyone was like Wait, sorry who's the director?
01:12:58.202 --> 01:12:59.964
[SPEAKER_02]: Like what?
01:13:00.966 --> 01:13:02.969
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think this
01:13:04.300 --> 01:13:15.863
[SPEAKER_02]: This is only so fun without going into like, yeah, to wink wink, which would have just been a defense mechanism because it would have been annoying.
01:13:16.223 --> 01:13:21.085
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, like because it is a comedy person who understands like,
01:13:22.751 --> 01:13:45.260
[SPEAKER_02]: that less is more and understands what is just going to be funny by being played straight and also I think that's why those like little scary beats worked so well is because it's like it's all about sort of like timing and stuff and it's like, you know, I was really, I really found those little moments scary and that that won me over in a big way too.
01:13:52.575 --> 01:14:06.245
[SPEAKER_01]: a little, a little his and hers double feature of masters of the universe and this, and it's like sincere, self-aware, not self-conscious,
01:14:07.886 --> 01:14:08.507
[SPEAKER_01]: gendered.
01:14:09.928 --> 01:14:20.217
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, from IP that like, we were not necessarily expecting to like the movie from this IP.
01:14:20.237 --> 01:14:33.007
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's why I'm like connecting them because it's like surprisingly enjoyable, surprisingly well handled, entertaining, glossy fun.
01:14:33.348 --> 01:14:33.668
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:14:35.367 --> 01:14:37.829
[SPEAKER_01]: Good, his and hers, movie night, double feature.
01:14:37.849 --> 01:14:40.451
[SPEAKER_01]: Have a good day, you know.
01:14:40.651 --> 01:14:45.095
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't let any of these people near he man, because he's a nice boy.
01:14:46.796 --> 01:14:54.582
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want all any of these three psychos get their claws into he man.
01:14:56.492 --> 01:15:00.114
[SPEAKER_01]: four secos, if you include Colleen Hoover, just kidding.
01:15:01.014 --> 01:15:01.794
[SPEAKER_01]: Just kidding, Colleen.
01:15:01.934 --> 01:15:03.535
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you seem like a nice lady.
01:15:03.575 --> 01:15:07.056
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, every interview I've seen with her seems she seems like a nice lady.
01:15:07.376 --> 01:15:11.218
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's really fucking funny that the last scene was hot ones.
01:15:11.498 --> 01:15:12.138
[SPEAKER_02]: Was a fake.
01:15:12.559 --> 01:15:14.299
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a fake episode of Hot One.
01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:15.380
[SPEAKER_02]: That is so funny.
01:15:16.160 --> 01:15:26.544
[SPEAKER_01]: And can I just say I know I'm on his turf being on YouTube and all that guys not a good interviewer people Whenever people are like oh I love hot ones.
01:15:26.584 --> 01:15:32.047
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the hot ones guy and then I watch it and he's like so You said you like colors.
01:15:32.327 --> 01:15:40.170
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about red you like it's just like the dumbest questions I have ever I Think that what people because like
01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:46.401
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that actually connects to low-in is just an empty vessel.
01:15:46.981 --> 01:15:51.123
[SPEAKER_02]: He's an empty vessel, and I think that's why some people like him isn't her viewer.
01:15:52.044 --> 01:15:53.744
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's just a cipher.
01:15:54.285 --> 01:15:58.286
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that he has done a good job at building whatever it is that he built.
01:16:00.207 --> 01:16:05.489
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if first we feast was his idea, like I don't know, I don't know his backstory.
01:16:05.949 --> 01:16:11.050
[SPEAKER_01]: But I know that I have been recommended his videos many times, like, vocally, but people in my life.
01:16:11.391 --> 01:16:15.472
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, you, like, interview shows, you'll love this, and then I watch it, and I'm like,
01:16:16.192 --> 01:16:19.293
[SPEAKER_01]: This man asks the dumbest questions I've ever heard.
01:16:19.793 --> 01:16:22.154
[SPEAKER_01]: The people he's talking to can't answer him.
01:16:22.975 --> 01:16:30.177
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, what is compelling, obviously, is that they are uncomfortable and reacting to that.
01:16:30.418 --> 01:16:32.578
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the interview that's interesting.
01:16:32.758 --> 01:16:36.420
[SPEAKER_02]: And people are away with able to answer just fine.
01:16:37.080 --> 01:16:40.862
[SPEAKER_02]: Verity Crawford, I thought her episode was pretty illuminating.
01:16:42.082 --> 01:16:50.931
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I also, I've been thinking about how I really kind of, I'll watch the Britney Bruceky one sometimes, the like, castle thing.
01:16:50.951 --> 01:16:56.476
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember the name of it, because she has, she's funny, so I'll just like watch it.
01:16:56.736 --> 01:16:59.899
[SPEAKER_01]: But I have to say in general, I don't know if I like love the like,
01:17:01.750 --> 01:17:03.633
[SPEAKER_01]: wacky press tour that stuff.
01:17:03.673 --> 01:17:14.047
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have to do where they go on hot ones and then they go on the Brittany broski castle thing and then they go to the thing where they put puppies on you and then they do lad Bible where they're eating a weird Irish snack and it's just like
01:17:15.605 --> 01:17:21.551
[SPEAKER_01]: I respect these artists like kind of interested in them talking about the work.
01:17:21.571 --> 01:17:23.974
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like not interested in this other shit.
01:17:24.094 --> 01:17:28.218
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's degrading.
01:17:28.278 --> 01:17:31.161
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're never been degrading super into it.
01:17:31.681 --> 01:17:36.286
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and if you love it, I would, I support you.
01:17:36.366 --> 01:17:37.487
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd maybe like to hear.
01:17:38.603 --> 01:17:38.983
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
01:17:41.044 --> 01:17:47.987
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to be talked into loving it, but every time I watch one of those, I'm like, this is the most degrading thing I've ever seen.
01:17:48.567 --> 01:17:50.248
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, who doesn't think that?
01:17:52.249 --> 01:17:55.130
[SPEAKER_01]: Koho?
01:17:55.170 --> 01:17:55.770
[SPEAKER_01]: Who wants it?
01:17:55.810 --> 01:17:56.730
[SPEAKER_01]: Who wants it so bad?
01:17:56.750 --> 01:17:59.472
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Alex Cooper says she's really cool.
01:18:08.984 --> 01:18:11.266
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure she's been all she has to have been on call her daddy.
01:18:11.286 --> 01:18:15.209
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like she's exactly the type of lady who would get invited, right?
01:18:15.249 --> 01:18:21.033
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a prominent female business success story, but I don't know her audience.
01:18:21.153 --> 01:18:23.975
[SPEAKER_01]: Alex Cooper loves business success.
01:18:26.297 --> 01:18:30.680
[SPEAKER_02]: And and and co-host in the business of books.
01:18:31.341 --> 01:18:33.523
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, and sure, and in those things out.
01:18:34.363 --> 01:18:35.164
[SPEAKER_01]: cranking him out.
01:18:35.224 --> 01:18:37.848
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not letting perfect be the enemy of good.
01:18:38.469 --> 01:18:40.131
[SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, thank you for listening to us talk about this.
01:18:45.018 --> 01:18:47.602
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, go to the variety.
01:18:50.673 --> 01:18:51.393
[SPEAKER_01]: Go see Verdi.
01:18:51.513 --> 01:18:52.254
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, go see you.
01:18:52.434 --> 01:18:56.576
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm just like, if someone's listening already, they, but maybe...
01:18:56.596 --> 01:18:57.096
[SPEAKER_02]: They saw it.
01:18:57.416 --> 01:19:00.357
[SPEAKER_02]: Some, some people don't mind knowing the twist.
01:19:00.417 --> 01:19:02.838
[SPEAKER_02]: Something the twist makes people go see stuff.
01:19:03.659 --> 01:19:11.182
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, I've gotten, I've gotten feedback both ways that people just listen because they're, they just, yeah, they don't care about spoilers.
01:19:11.282 --> 01:19:11.542
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:19:12.222 --> 01:19:17.185
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've, you know, heard, oh, I want to listen to your episodes, but I haven't seen any of these movies.
01:19:18.465 --> 01:19:28.128
[SPEAKER_02]: Either way, whichever you are, um, yeah, it's it's so fucking if you've already seen Verity go see it in 40 X. Yeah, it's probably gonna be there for like two weeks.
01:19:28.188 --> 01:19:31.689
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us Tell us what's going on in there.
01:19:32.489 --> 01:19:34.130
[SPEAKER_01]: Is will fall gonna be in 40?
01:19:34.210 --> 01:19:35.070
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I
01:19:36.057 --> 01:19:38.378
[SPEAKER_01]: We should look into that man.
01:19:39.138 --> 01:19:41.499
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be my first 40X experience.
01:19:41.559 --> 01:19:43.580
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've never done 40X.
01:19:44.500 --> 01:19:44.820
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:19:44.860 --> 01:19:51.003
[SPEAKER_02]: There was something recently I was tempted by, but I never got around to it.
01:19:52.143 --> 01:19:52.703
[SPEAKER_02]: The Odyssey.
01:19:53.764 --> 01:19:56.545
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I have to say what we ought to see.
01:19:56.665 --> 01:19:59.105
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have to say what we ought to see.
01:19:59.125 --> 01:20:00.106
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the Odyssey.
01:20:00.846 --> 01:20:03.007
[SPEAKER_01]: But it way all of all would be so fun.
01:20:05.597 --> 01:20:05.898
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:20:05.958 --> 01:20:06.519
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, listen.
01:20:06.539 --> 01:20:09.203
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you guys next week for social reckoning.
01:20:09.264 --> 01:20:09.544
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
01:20:09.684 --> 01:20:10.045
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:20:11.347 --> 01:20:12.589
[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of Facebook.
01:20:13.010 --> 01:20:14.412
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of Facebook camera.
01:20:15.294 --> 01:20:16.015
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:20:16.816 --> 01:20:17.037
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
01:20:17.858 --> 01:20:18.039
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
01:20:22.458 --> 01:20:26.621
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that was our conversation about the movie Verity.
01:20:27.982 --> 01:20:43.194
[SPEAKER_01]: If you enjoyed this episode, please consider doing me a favor and copying the link wherever you listen to it and send it to a friend because those personal recommendations are the best way for a podcast to find its audience.
01:20:43.414 --> 01:20:44.855
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'd really appreciate that.
01:20:45.415 --> 01:21:08.689
[SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps you have a friend that you saw a variety with, or maybe a friend you covered up a murder with, either one would enjoy listening to this conversation, I think, or really, if you know Dakota Johnson sent her this episode, because I really just praised her non-stop in a way that's almost uncomfortable.
01:21:08.829 --> 01:21:12.193
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so thank you so much for listening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can follow us on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and we'll see you next week for the social reckoning.
01:21:22.125 --> 01:21:22.205
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Median literature was created and produced by Monica Scott and Emily Fay.
01:21:32.161 --> 01:21:36.832
[SPEAKER_01]: Our theme music was composed by Christian Larson, and technical help is from Alex Luchin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for listening and we will see you at the movies.