Signing on the Dotted Line ft. Maddison Ridley

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Actors. You're onliars fine for the
living is this week we need to be

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Madison Ridley, and you're based Australian
actor fresh off featuring in high town on

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stars. Today we chat to her
about her experience moving to the city,

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her visa journey and a few funny
stories along the way. You're the first

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person we've had on who has gone
through the one process since that's what yeah,

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definitely something I want to talk about. Yeah, questions. Yeah,

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well, I think first off,
just like a general how did you get

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into acting? What kind of drew
you to acting in the first class?

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I have well, I had absolutely
no idea for like so on, because

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it's like the only thing I've done
since I was like five. So I

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couldn't remember what it was. And
then a few years ago, for some

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reason, some memory unlocked in my
brain and I remembered the exact moment that

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I wanted to become an actor,
and it was I was five and I

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was watching like a local high school
production of the wizard of us and I

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went home and I just was like
cosplayed Dorothy for like a week. I

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just don't want to be Dorothy,
and I think that's where it started.

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So the yeah, I was five, so it's so young. My parents

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put me in like speech and drama
lessons, like little acting classes, and

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I did like, you know,
all the local like any local acting I

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could do. I was there.
Um, also, yeah, it's been.

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It's been forever and it's kind of
got to a point where it's just

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like, I don't even know if
I'm any like good out or interested in

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anything else. Was the only thing
I've been like interested in or pursuing for

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the longest time. Yeah. So, yeah, Nice, long time.

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Hmm, that's actually twenty and twenty
one years. Damn. Yeah. So

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what made you want to come to
America? On New York in particular.

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So I was living in London and
that like I graduated high school, moved

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to London. Thought I was only
going to stay there for like eighteen months.

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Went straight from high school. Strain
in high school. Yeah, I

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mean I took a couple months to
like save and stuff. I can travel

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a little bit. Went Home,
saved a much of money. is about

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six months after graduation I moved and
then didn't mean to, but wind up

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staying there for almost four years.
Oh Wow. Yeah, so, you

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know, I wanted to go back
like go to night Oh, like you

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did the drama schools in Australia,
which is kind of like it's been like

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almost ten years and I still never
go. Yeah, sorry mom, but

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so then New York came about.
Basically I was running out of these options

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in the UK and it was kind
of either like go to university. HMM.

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Obviously I was additioning for all the
drama schools there. I really wanted

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to study. That was something that
I had always wanted to do and it's

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pretty brutal in the UK. I
mean the audition for a sesses insane.

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All the top tier schools have like
Fivezero applicants or something, maybe class,

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and they're choosing like twenty, depends
on the school. Some like some schools

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take like last on school take more, but I mean so that's like they're

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whittling it down. I auditioned like
two years in a row and and kind

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of got like really far sudition process
and the shortested for a couple of schools.

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But in hindsight I just think I
was so young and like, HMM,

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just you know, when they say
like go get a little more,

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it's like life experience and whatever.
Like I think night out said that too.

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When I auditioned when I was like
seventeen, which fair, it's exactly

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what I needed, but I just
wasn't like I wasn't hungry enough for it,

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I think. I think I was
just like naive and like Oh,

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well, I'm passionate and I'm talented, like surely I'll get in. And

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of course that's just like, if
you're not going to put in the work,

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you're not going to get the results. So wasn't getting into drama school,

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but didn't want to like spend money
on a university, especially being like

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an international student, because in the
UK it's so expensive, it's literally double.

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Yeah, and then I had a
friend who went to Otta our school

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in New York, the year above
me, and he was like from Australia

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and he was like you should audition
for this school and like come to New

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York, and I'm still like,
okay, fuck it, why not?

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All? Sorry, I said,
Oh, it's a wast content. Okay,

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I got like slag by O.
wouldn't like change says. I to

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publish it because though, like it's
inappropriate. Like what? There's explicit language,

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like Oh, so you're definitely gonna
have to like cover this and like

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ex sect content. Sorry, okay, sure, but yeah, so it

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basically is a script. Why not, I'll audition, and they auditioned in

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London too, so it was like
really and then, like how many weeks

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or a month later, I was
accepted. So I was like wow,

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that was that was easier than the
London drama schools a hell, and so

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I kind of it was never part
of the plan, but four months later

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I was living here, so it
was really like not a lot of thought

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went into it. It was kind
of that, as much as I love

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home and I love Australia, I
just wasn't quite ready to move home.

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I felt like I had like more
adventure to do. That sounds like so

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cheesy, but I just like that
wasn't quite ready to go home. So

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I was like okay, New York, let's let's go to drama school in

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York. Why not? Wow.
And what was the moving process like and

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like that transition? Did you know
anyone in New York? Was a idea.

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So I knew my friend and then
I had some like all friends who

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live here. So it was much
easier than like my move from like Australia

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to England because I knew absolutely no
one and like rocked up with like zero

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friends, zero contacts, like small
family friends up in like what? But

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yeah, it didn't like and so
making friends was very much like just going

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out having the like kind of like
meet some strangers, and I made some

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really, really great friends like that, because, you know, you know

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absolutely no one. Like the friends
you make is kind of like, you

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know, you meet a stranger in
this something interesting, there's a spark and

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then boom your friends, whereas like
here I kind of came in and I

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had a base and going to school
as well, you know you're kind of

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going to have like an in build
like friendship group anyways, just because the

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nature drama school, like you get
so close to people so quickly from like

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sharing your like innermost demons, like
here's my class, which everyone hold it.

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So, yeah, I found it
a lot easier to move here.

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It was hard because I was like
in a relationship at the time, like

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so there was like a little lung
those long distance involved in the meaning.

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So I found that really hard and
I think as well. I really wanted

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to actually like mourned my life in
like London. I really wanted to go

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back. So I actually spent first
year here in New York like looking at

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options to try go back. So
I feel like I wasn't actually really letting

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myself settle. Like mentally, I
was kind of being like, Oh,

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this is temporary, this is really
fun, I'm gonna like train here,

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but then I want to get back
to London M and then, when it

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became clear I just like had movies
or options to go to London, about

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a year in I was like,
okay, I just need to like forget

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about that and just like be here
and be present and really like appreciate the

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fact that I'm in New York,
like that's such a privilege, it's so

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cool. So yeah, that definitely
like changed once I was a hundred percent

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like here mentally, I guess.
Yeah, because we love questions. I

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don't like to revise them, but
them. What's it that's so interesting?

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Yeah, some kind of like holding
one. That more that. I was

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like, yeah, not like super
thing. It was almost like I didn't

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really like focus on like making friends. I really done the first year of

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school. Really just like focused on
school. Yes, yeah, yeah,

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that's just so strange, because I
usually like yeah, and I was kind

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of like I'm not here to like
get attached because I want to leave and

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then. Yeah, yeah, that's
so interesting. I remember like when we

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were in well, we technically didn't
do first year in some time. I

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was industry, okay. Yeah,
when I was in first year, like

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there was such a discrepancy between,
I think, the people put like fresh

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out of high school and like friends. Yay, like I really late experience

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with people there like well, I'm
here to pursue like a passion and a

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dream. I'm here to work at
obviously still my friends, but yeah,

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it's just such a different dynamic.
Absolutely, I felt that too, and

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I think being a little older and
and then, I don't like generalized,

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but I in our year, it
certainly felt like we had like that was

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the difference between, like, yeah, the younger Americans and then some of

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the internationals who were, yeah,
a little more like craving that like drama

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school experience. I feel like that
mentality definitely like put yets, although like

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the yeah, there is such a
such a discrepancy, I felt, between

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people who had traveled from somewhere to
be far away, to be there.

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Yeah, I Graham, and I
think like we have some fantastic friends in

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Americans, but I really like found
my people, yeah, amongst those like

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from international backgrounds. Yeah, so
I felt like how to they knew what

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the sacrifice was. Yeah, because
it is a sacrifice to leave, to

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leave an entire country in your family
and your a culture and everything. So

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somewhere else. Or I think I
have steah quarterings for like get a quick

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flight. Yeah, three days later, you kind of bond over that for

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sure day. Yeah, I mean, yeah, finitely. Yeah, we

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were literally sitting this morning joking with
their friend Janet about like how it's to

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get home. Yeah, so ridiculous. It just worken, you're just like

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us. Yeah, I'm going another
concern for a while, like he's out.

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But yeah, so, graduating acting
school, what was your opt experience

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like? So, just to make
a clear opter, he's the one year

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you get to work within the field
that you studied in in the US.

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Yes, yes, it was amazing. To be honest. I think there's

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and we've talked about this before,
like you knowing that it's like your visa

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is a taking time bomb of it
going to be over. You have such

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a fire under your ass to make
it count. MMM, and so and

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I by nature, like I'm a
huge procrastinators. So I was exactly what

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I needed to kind of like get
my career going. And I remember even

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before I graduated, which they you
know what, exactly encouraging, but I

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was auditioning. I was like looking
for any, any short film, any

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like little downtown, like ex for
a mental theater group, like anything.

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I was just like I knew that
I needed to get the ball rolling because

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I knew that if I graduated and
had nothing to do, I would like

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freak out instead of like Oh God, what next? So I did.

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I managed to like book a little
downtown like this Great Little Shakespeare Theater Company

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called hamlet isn't dead, and they
were doing Henry for and it was literally

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just like fifty seats and it kind
of like really cool like community arts and

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a space. They've now moved and
now have like a residency in a really

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cool theater on the UPWAY side.
At the time we were still down and

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like try back cards. It was
and it was just a great experience because

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it was like, you know,
rehearsals every day. I was actually doing

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my reheusals for my Grad play and
this the same time. So I was

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missing water houses and school knew,
like I had spoken to school. They

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were kind of like hmm, like
we shouldn't encourage it. The same time,

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like good for years. So like
as long as it doesn't interfere with

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your school where hussals like good for
you. So yeah, and then,

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you know, graduated and we like
opened a week or two later. So

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that was great because that really like
kick started, yeah, year, and

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I felt productive and I felt like
I had something to advertise and I was

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already collecting, you know, evidence
for my visa, which is basically all

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the over two years about. You're
just trying to like create not only like

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fine fulfilling work as an artist,
but like there's definitely a mindset of like

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you have to collect every little bit
of evidence that you can use that you

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to prove that you've been working.
Yeah, so you're like those flyers,

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give me these, give me the
playbills. You just like saving and like

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whittling everything away. And then I
did a Shakespeare's get a festival out and

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SCRAMTON. So that was great because
that took like two months, like Nice

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two month block and, aside from
just being like so much fun and a

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really great experience, and like getting
to spend a whole summer would like actors

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and do and like do Shakespeare,
and that was really fun but also,

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you know, great for the content. And and then after that was when

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I got the job that kind of
like turned my opt around and really made

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me think, like okay, like
I think I'm I think I'm sweet with

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my own one, because it's the
job that I booked the people, places

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and things. Yeah, it was
really cool. I think I've told you

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guys this story before, but do
you want me to like tell it for

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the yeah, tones it's a ground, very good as friends, Internet friend.

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Um. So, yeah, it
was in Scranton and a friend of

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mine who was there, I think
she like she used to work for an

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agency and so she still had like
the sneaky log in details and she,

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I think, doesn't breakdowns. I
won't, like will never name name her

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because I said a lot of trouble, but like massively appreciate this. And

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she saw that they were bringing that
show to New York and I had seen

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it in London when I had last
visited this summer before, and it was

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like one of the best pieces of
theater ever seen in my life. It

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was phenomenal, like writing, direction, acting, staging, every facet of

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it was amazing, and so I
was immediately very excited because I knew that

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they were looking for basically like the
supernumera. He's so it's not even a

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big role, but it was just
like you shadow Denise Goff, who's the

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lead actress, who is just like
as astounding, and I was absolutely obsessed

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with and finally enough, when I
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few people who were like wow,
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Denise Golf like when she had a
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That's probably about it. But I
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was like this is perfect to play
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an agent, I didn't, like
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who was casting it. So I
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like every contact from school, every
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could think of who might have some
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it. Then I found out who
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like attack of approach was emailing everyone
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to be like can you like slip
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do it. Can you like get
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you know, after I'd like son
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I had the lovely George Heslin from
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okay, like he had a contact
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of like, you know, email
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you. She does like some freelance
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Thanky, George, and you know, went and right before I went to

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bed I like was like maybe I'll
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my twitter account in like a good
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I just like shot off the tweet
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it was like I hear you're coming
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dream job to like be in this
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Ganga and I like made my furb
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looked like her. went to bed
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from an email from the cost and
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saying like hi, Maddie, I
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I would, you know, as
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and she was kind of like you
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emailed them. And then the second
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tell Z, and she had said
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forwarded US through tweet. So she
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obviously like great, can you like
find this girl and get her an audition

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please? Inside Insane, and it
works. They obviously like found my email

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address from my website. So that
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I had done my website, if
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they were getting like double weamy the
National Theater being like can you get this

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person, random person, an audition
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saying so they're obviously like okay,
we'll give her a shot. Yeah,

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so it was just it was insane
that a tweet had actually worked and

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then she wro back be kind of
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this person just you knowed about you
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so good. Yeah, I'm sorry, that was a really long story,

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but it was not. It was
it's everything that this industry is, that

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it's just like sometimes you just have
to do the most ridiculous things. Yeah,

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and like going bang down the doors
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you. It's to showing the issues. Yeah, it's like anytime I've gotten

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off my like laurels and actually gone
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this usually happens. I'm like,
I should probably do this more of it,

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but yeah, I'm just like not
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very shocked that it worked. Yeah, yeah, I mean the risk quite

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on, but it's yeah, I
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best job ever, best experience ever, like, you know, not it's

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not a huge part, but just
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be on that stage every night and
then watch from this like the wings,

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the work that was being done,
and and then again for the like Alan

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Application. It was such a high
profile production and you know, you can

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use press from anything that you're in, even if you know you're not mentioned

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by name, so I was like, thank you very much, reviews from

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New York Times. Like you know, I like stacked that application full right,

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absolutely, I'm change of the portfolio. Yeah, it was. So

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that was the moment that definitely like
swung me around that I was like,

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okay, I'm feeling I'm feeling pretty
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did like well, I got an
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the first not from that directly,
but I sort of used the fact that

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I was in that to be like
who wants to represent me? Anyone?

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As any takers, and was lucky
enough to like start working with an agent

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like sort of and so from that
point on, as I started like auditioning

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for a few little things and I
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a commercial or two, just kind
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like a few more projects. Great. Yeah, what would you say?

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When is your biggest learning experience from
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I'll distically, more than anything,
industry was that's a great question, I

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think. I don't know if you
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there's just so much rejection and like
so many hoops to jump through that it

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it fills me with a lot of
self doubt on a lot of days and

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I kind of forget why I'm doing
it in the first place. And then

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just sort of like walking out and
taking that entrance and whatever. And I

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mean it was a pretty small audience. I think we're on they like four

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hundred if I'm like off board way. So you know, it's my huge

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but like just being in front of
a crowd every night like that really reminded

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me like why I love it and
like what that feeling is of being out

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of like getting to tell a story
and seeing how moved people are by that.

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And Yeah, even only having a
small part of it just reminded me

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like I, of course I can
do this and one day, like that

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will be me, like you know, in these other scenes, hopefully having

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like some meteor roals to play.
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most useful and in giving me like, yeah, just like confidence again that

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it was like no, no,
I am like pursuing this for a reason

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and I really do love it.
Yeah, and then as well, just

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getting to watch like Denise and,
Oh my gosh, I'm forgetting her name,

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which is making me so sad.
Barbara, so replays like the mother,

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the nurse and the doctor, who's
one of the most fabulous actresses I've

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like ever scene work and they had
one. She guys, good to see

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the play? No, because this
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of course, of course. Sorry, so dumb. I wish I was.

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You've read it? Have you read
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okay. So you know the scene
right at like the end where she like

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it's like her and her mother and
it's one of the final scenes and it's

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like one of the most devastating scenes
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was right before we came on for
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from the wings and look, I
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have been still chilling in the dressing
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I watched it every single night for
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and it was like a master class
in acting because they never like once did

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it the same MMM I. and
it was just seeing that like freshness infused

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every night to like give it a
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they were taking with their day,
it would be a little different and it

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would just like it never failed to
move me, and so yeah, that

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was just like I don't know exactly
what lesson I was learning, other than

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like they're brilliant. I hope I
can be that brilliant one day, but

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like it was just amazing to watch. HMM. Yeah, it's a great

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expert. How was the experience of
getting an agent and getting representation during that

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would bet years, especially as someone
like who doesn't have American citizenship. Yeah,

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it's it's a mixed bag because honestly, like it depends who you talk

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to. And School is really great
and how they like I don't know if

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it's the same in terms of curriculum
for you guys did, but we were

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definitely guinea pigs of them starting to
do this, that they were doing a

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lot of career prep in our like
second yeah, and I'll and I found

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a year and we had like mock
agent meetings where they were like yeah,

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we did. Yeah, and then
they actually brought some agents in who,

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you know, there was no guarantee
they want actually there to signus. They

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were just there to be like,
you know, I guess like a little

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test run of it, and that
was super helpful. So and then after

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school I like had a couple of
meetings actually I'm like, how am I

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feel like I'm getting the timeline is
wrong. Once I booked people in places,

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I actually got back in contact with
some with some people at the school,

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and said, would you be able
to give me the contact details of

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like that agent that I met,
and he still went above and beyond and

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when actually, congratulations, this is
great. Here's actually a few more people

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that I'll like recommend you too,
that I also know. So that was

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really great that they that they did
that. And so if, like,

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you know, one of those agencies
was really top to your and they just

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straight off the bat replied and we're
being like, sounds great, but like,

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unfortunately we just don't work with anyone
who doesn't have a green card.

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But like let us know if you
ever get a green card and might keep

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us updated your career. At like
very polite. Took some meetings with people

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who same thing. We're a little
bit just like get some more experience,

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like, you know, get some
more rules, Billard your career and then

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come back. And then the agent
that I did meet with, like's my

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current agent now, which was from
a referral from a friend, like a

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friend from my like London days.
She's his agents. It was a very

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personal referral and she was willing to
meet with me and the first thing she

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said was like right, so,
visa wise, this like it's going to

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be an issue because, you know, you can't be on equity, and

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I was like fully prepared for this
and I went well, that's okay,

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because actually I'm like much more interested
in doing television and film and, like

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sad doesn't have a problem with Opatino
ones and I have friends who have been

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on network to network television shows on
our epyting and she was kind of like

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Oh, like okay, like you've
done your research and talking about if it's

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not going to be a problem,
great, I'm willing to try this out

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and see how it goes. Like
she doesn't lose anything I gets from sort

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of sending me out in a few
auditions and and I'm still with her to

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day. So it's you know,
it's been great and she was willing to

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be my sponsor. So I guess
it honestly just depends with who you meet.

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I had, yeah, like a
lot of nose and then it was

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lucky enough to get a yes.
But I think by being like pretty straightforward

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and being like I'm aware of,
you know, the hurdles that I may

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face, but like if you're willing
to like jump on board with me and

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like be part of my team,
and let's see if we can get over

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them together. MMM, I think
that confidence is like not alluring, but

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you know what I mean. They'll
be like that. All Right, sure,

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okay, if you're if you're sure
about it, I think if you

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go in using it like Oh,
like, I know I have this problem

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and I know I'm not one of
the right means are but like please represent

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me, like no, it's through
that you just have to be like yeah,

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I'm great, people are going to
hire me. So do you want

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it on it, you know,
like bullshit, your way, you gone.

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Yeah, is generally my like tactic
was all things in life. How

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is your experience walking to audition rooms
accent wise, because I know, like

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when we were at school, I
think we were like, I know it

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was like for you, but part
of a new voice and speech generation of

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like emphasis on native accents and confidence
in the way you speak. But then

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again, like I know, I've
done a couple of showcase and stuff like

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that since corona has started, and
the big feedback from a lot of mistry

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people that I've come in contact with
is like, well, fantastic, you

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seem lovely, but how's American accent? A hundred percent, you sound like

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I only want to hear that.
Yeah, I agree that completely. Like

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I love my accent, but I
don't want to go into a room and

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them know I'm Australian and then spend
the audition listening to hear how good my

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accent is rather than focusing on my
acting. Yeah, so they don't know

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and I like I pride myself on
that. I worked really hot on my

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American accent all like go around and
spend my day like auto my coffee and

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like whatever, just to practice,
you know what I mean. So it

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feels it's funny because if I have
an Australian I just now feels really strange

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to be like acting in an Australian. I ridiculous, but that's how I

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used to doing it. American I
am, but I don't want them to

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be listening to see if I can
do a good accent. So I go

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in as American, even when they
see it on my resume. You know

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what I mean. I just don't
want them listening and then I'll like finish

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the scene and if they have any
questions where I'm talking to them. I've

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had them go, oh, your
Australian. Wow, your accents really good.

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I didn't even notice and I feel
like that's a better way to do

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it than for them to be listening
to the accent. So I always rule

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go in an American. If the
casting office knows you are being in before

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and now they know I'm Australian,
I'll you know, I just go in

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and by myself, or if I
think it will. Yeah, I guess

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honestly, just depends on like the
audition, but mostly as a rule,

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hmm. Yeah, sometimes I don't
know why. You're like, Oh,

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maybe it'll be cool if I'm like
a little different and they think I'm Australian.

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I've had a lot, a lot
of auditions, but they've gone,

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Oh, this is really interesting that
your Australian. Will you give us to

409
00:26:27.890 --> 00:26:33.119
take where you do it in your
Australian accent? Oh, really happen a

410
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:34.960
lot of times, you know.
Yeah, yeah, really, which is

411
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:37.960
very, really cool actually, because
then you're like Oh, great, okay,

412
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.960
someone gave me a really great tip's
another really fantastic Australian actress. She's

413
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:47.119
doing a lot of great work,
and she was like if that happens,

414
00:26:47.269 --> 00:26:48.390
just be like yeah, great,
can I like go take a second,

415
00:26:48.390 --> 00:26:52.950
because I was telling how that that's
happening to me so many times and because

416
00:26:52.990 --> 00:26:56.789
I've practiced the line so many times
in my American accent without thinking, I

417
00:26:56.150 --> 00:27:00.349
accidentally slip into it even when I'm
trying to do my Australian. And she

418
00:27:00.509 --> 00:27:03.339
was like remember, it's your audition, like feel free to be like I'd

419
00:27:03.380 --> 00:27:04.460
love to do it. Take my
Australian arson do you might if I go

420
00:27:04.500 --> 00:27:07.339
out and practice the five minutes while
you see the next person, they're always

421
00:27:07.380 --> 00:27:10.700
going to be like great, sure. I mean if they don't it,

422
00:27:10.779 --> 00:27:15.250
then just like never mind, I'll
do it. But yeah, I've done

423
00:27:15.250 --> 00:27:18.369
it so many times. There I
where I've accidentally, like yes, slipped

424
00:27:18.369 --> 00:27:22.289
into the American while I was doing
the Australian take. So, yeah,

425
00:27:22.890 --> 00:27:25.009
it's amazing that, such a dream
you had to get to a place so

426
00:27:25.009 --> 00:27:26.009
when you don't have to think about
the occide anymore that, yeah, you

427
00:27:26.049 --> 00:27:30.440
wouldn't want to work towards at the
moment. Yeah, just like not having

428
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.839
to like feel like I'm splitting half
my mind into my circumstances me up the

429
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.799
half into like my roody guards,
like are totally and I like really recommend

430
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.720
just I felt like such anating and
so selfconscious, and then I was like

431
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:44.509
we no one knows me at this
coffee show, like I'll just see how

432
00:27:44.509 --> 00:27:47.190
it goes, and I think that's
the best way of just like really,

433
00:27:47.549 --> 00:27:49.349
really doing it all the time just
so it starts to feel normal, because

434
00:27:49.349 --> 00:27:52.670
there was a time when I felt
very selfconscious about my yeah, accent,

435
00:27:52.869 --> 00:27:56.029
yeah, and did not, and
I think that's exactly what it is.

436
00:27:56.109 --> 00:28:00.099
You're like splitting energy into thinking about
it, like you just don't want it's

437
00:28:00.180 --> 00:28:03.700
like take start from the acting.
I felt like that way in high time

438
00:28:03.700 --> 00:28:07.220
because I had to be doing like
a like a cake card accent, and

439
00:28:07.259 --> 00:28:08.420
I was the most nervous I've ever
been acting because I was like, I'm

440
00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:11.740
don't think I'm doing a very good
job, and then they were kind of

441
00:28:11.779 --> 00:28:14.769
like, you know what, just
do about the accent, just do gel

442
00:28:14.769 --> 00:28:18.970
over, and I'm like, I
suck. Is a Cape Card accent,

443
00:28:19.130 --> 00:28:22.930
like it's kind of like, you
know, like Boston's like, you know,

444
00:28:22.089 --> 00:28:25.690
Papa car like, which is nice
because it's kind of like, you

445
00:28:25.769 --> 00:28:29.640
know, it's like the Australians without
the Rhodic cars, but but then caught,

446
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:33.240
apparently it's like different. It's not
as strong. I was really struggling

447
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.839
to find like references. Like,
you know, voice were the accents I

448
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.589
could study specifically, and I didn't
have the resources to like casually go out

449
00:28:41.589 --> 00:28:47.109
to Cape Cod before I feel like
voice studies. I'm just like record every

450
00:28:47.109 --> 00:28:49.509
yeah, we like stream. Yeah, this it. So it was.

451
00:28:49.630 --> 00:28:56.940
It was pretty hot, but yeah, sort cool or mean? Hmm Um's

452
00:28:57.380 --> 00:29:02.019
I feel like I'm sorry. We've
been having at this out. Yeah,

453
00:29:02.380 --> 00:29:06.420
having so many fireworks until like five
thirty in the morning for any one.

454
00:29:06.460 --> 00:29:10.170
Three any like this whole time I've
noticed on my eyelid is twitching and that's

455
00:29:10.210 --> 00:29:11.170
driving me crazy. So he's gonna
be rub a violet. You know what

456
00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:14.609
you're like, so tired that your
eyelids still unching. Did you have like

457
00:29:14.650 --> 00:29:15.609
any sleep? whost? But I
did. I'M gonna because I put like

458
00:29:15.690 --> 00:29:21.410
my noise canceling headphones one and listen
to like weird sleep sounds. Yeah,

459
00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:25.039
now, because I did keep waking
up. I heard the fireworks that work

460
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:29.880
last night and I was like this
is whatever it's talking about. Yeah,

461
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:32.640
actually being kind of lucky. The
fireworks. They were kind of bad,

462
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.480
like a week good. I didn't
know what they were because I couldn't see

463
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:40.029
anything. Yeah, Howard noises and
I figured out what they were and I

464
00:29:40.069 --> 00:29:42.589
kind of died down. But then
cat sitting. This is that. I'm

465
00:29:44.150 --> 00:29:51.069
where's the cabin? He's around,
okay, but he decides between two am

466
00:29:51.430 --> 00:29:55.019
and seven am that he must let
you know that he's alive and well,

467
00:29:55.579 --> 00:30:03.660
and so just like, oh my
go at, understand the lack of sleep.

468
00:30:03.819 --> 00:30:08.809
Yeah, it's really putting me off
motherhood. Yeah, that's what it

469
00:30:08.849 --> 00:30:12.529
would be like, just like twitching. I loved. Yeah, this was

470
00:30:12.609 --> 00:30:23.759
it last night. Before the next
question, I remember there's sounds like where's

471
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:33.759
the sound? Is the two D
five? Oh my God, so we

472
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:40.950
know what it's a whole thing that
we can tell that players being involved.

473
00:30:41.470 --> 00:30:42.910
I mean I look out and I
see it's just like kids who are like

474
00:30:42.990 --> 00:30:48.869
seven, but I'm like, yeah, why so many? I'm WIFI UNDRED

475
00:30:48.869 --> 00:30:51.019
and thirty. The other day it
was still going on a thirty and six

476
00:30:51.059 --> 00:30:52.339
and I like had in the slade
and I was like, Oh God,

477
00:30:52.819 --> 00:30:56.420
every night as well. They must
sleep all day. I want to find

478
00:30:56.420 --> 00:30:59.059
who they are and then like blow
like one of those like blow Waun things,

479
00:30:59.099 --> 00:31:06.210
like free window. So upset.
Okay, so one more like sort

480
00:31:06.210 --> 00:31:08.730
of be as a question. So
transitioning onto the O one, something I

481
00:31:08.809 --> 00:31:11.410
want to know just yes, for
me personal think, what sort of question

482
00:31:11.490 --> 00:31:15.569
should I ask my lawyer before I
sign on with them? What should I

483
00:31:17.369 --> 00:31:21.160
like how do I surround myself with
the best people in the best resources?

484
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.400
I my lawyer was recommended to me
by multiple friends in the year above who

485
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.440
were successful in there are ones.
So from the beginning I was kind of

486
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:32.759
like, okay, seems like he's
got a good track record, but at

487
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:33.670
the same time, like I'm such
a pain in the ass and need to

488
00:31:33.789 --> 00:31:37.390
like have control and know everything that's
going on. And I asked a million

489
00:31:37.549 --> 00:31:41.230
questions. Yeah, so I can't
even they also provide like so much information.

490
00:31:41.390 --> 00:31:45.230
So it's kind of like pretty much
there and I and again, of

491
00:31:45.309 --> 00:31:48.259
course, from speaking to friends who
have had it, I had some idea

492
00:31:48.299 --> 00:31:51.740
of what I already needed to collect
and everything. So I had a pretty

493
00:31:51.740 --> 00:31:56.059
good idea, I think. Obviously
the first time is, you know,

494
00:31:56.259 --> 00:32:00.299
knowing what you need to collect and
then not just that, but like what's

495
00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:04.890
going to be the most valuable like
evidence over others, you know what I

496
00:32:04.970 --> 00:32:08.289
mean. So I remember I asked
that and that was a really like valuable

497
00:32:08.450 --> 00:32:15.720
information, you know, knowing the
time line of like when it's the best

498
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.920
to apply. HMM. I feel
like everything's changed so much in the last

499
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:24.480
two years because when I got mine
it was still it was like pretty breezy,

500
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:29.000
but then my partner who applied last
year, it was a nightmare.

501
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.750
So not to like his stress.
Yeah, it was a lot more,

502
00:32:31.829 --> 00:32:35.349
it felt like a lot more like
hoops to jump through, a lot more

503
00:32:35.390 --> 00:32:38.869
red tape to go unders. So, yeah, it was definitely like a

504
00:32:38.950 --> 00:32:44.109
lot easier for me. Oh and
the other thing I recommend like definitely knowing

505
00:32:44.109 --> 00:32:47.180
because prices change all the time.
Beyond just like your lawyer fee, in

506
00:32:47.180 --> 00:32:51.420
the application fee, which is like
a pretty hefty sum, there ends up

507
00:32:51.460 --> 00:32:54.339
being a lot of like extra little
fees for you need to get a few

508
00:32:54.539 --> 00:33:00.049
union letters where, basically, and
it's not equity because obviously equity doesn't accept

509
00:33:00.210 --> 00:33:06.410
o one as members on the green
card, but it's just so dying because

510
00:33:06.529 --> 00:33:09.369
how many thoughts on that. But
Sag after does. And then there's a

511
00:33:09.410 --> 00:33:13.960
couple of other unions that I had
never even heard of it are like sort

512
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.319
of much smaller, like television and
radio unions. So and your lawyer deals

513
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:20.799
with that. But like each letter, and it used to be to fifty

514
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.240
per letter, just like a nice
little money make an opportunity for them,

515
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:29.029
but that's sorry much. I know
it's really interesting, but you need the

516
00:33:29.109 --> 00:33:30.990
letters and you can three. So
that ends up, you know, adding

517
00:33:31.069 --> 00:33:35.509
like a pretty hefty amount on.
So it's just good to know up front,

518
00:33:35.549 --> 00:33:37.950
I think, like because I remember
I thought I only needed too and

519
00:33:37.990 --> 00:33:40.779
then suddenly there was like a couple
more things I had to pay for and

520
00:33:40.900 --> 00:33:45.140
that felt a little stressful. So
I think if you you know from the

521
00:33:45.460 --> 00:33:49.180
beginning how much you're going to need
to be saving and and all that,

522
00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:53.099
and then they obviously deal with all
the letters and stuff. So yeah,

523
00:33:53.220 --> 00:33:57.809
just knowing, I think, like
all the things you need. He they

524
00:33:57.890 --> 00:34:01.730
would say, great, you'll need
like so and so many deal memos and

525
00:34:01.890 --> 00:34:06.250
then I would like get way more
than that because I was just like surely

526
00:34:06.329 --> 00:34:09.320
it can't hurt, right. So
I think I think it's good advice to

527
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:15.320
be like overprepared. And like yeah, and you end up doing this is

528
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.320
just general pis now, but like, H I think I was surprised at

529
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.320
the amount of work that I was
doing. I thought by having a lawyer

530
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.510
that meant that you could kind of
just like collect some stuff and then kick

531
00:34:24.590 --> 00:34:30.550
back, but essentially you are creating
the entire like application. The lawyer just

532
00:34:30.630 --> 00:34:34.989
as the like fancy paperwork part of
it and like helps you, you know,

533
00:34:35.030 --> 00:34:37.909
and then writes all the official letters. They like your sponsor need to

534
00:34:37.989 --> 00:34:40.860
sign and stuff like that. So
it's like it was a lot of hours

535
00:34:42.059 --> 00:34:46.019
of work and, as I mentioned, procrastinated. Queen. Of course,

536
00:34:46.099 --> 00:34:50.019
I was like dilly daddling and like
did a couple of things and then in

537
00:34:50.099 --> 00:34:53.329
like the sort of month before it
was Jew was doing pulling like nine hour

538
00:34:53.369 --> 00:34:57.809
days like at a cafe, just
kind of like just takes so long to

539
00:34:57.929 --> 00:35:00.849
kind of create, you know,
all this, not create, obviously,

540
00:35:00.849 --> 00:35:06.449
you're like just pulling together content and
like emailing all your you know, tracking

541
00:35:06.489 --> 00:35:09.480
down all your people that you've asked
for deal memos and yeah, so it's

542
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.760
definitely time consuming. I would like
put like just set aside a whole month.

543
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:15.519
You're going, okay, I'm going
to like work and then I'm going

544
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.639
to focus on my visa, our
application, and like, yeah, that's

545
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.269
my life. So that one much
through, snatch through, right. Yeah,

546
00:35:22.269 --> 00:35:23.949
it's the best way to do it, I think. For sure.

547
00:35:24.110 --> 00:35:29.510
How far through your year did you
start your one application? Oh, that's

548
00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:30.949
really good. Quick as I said, I left it pretty late. When

549
00:35:31.150 --> 00:35:35.030
was I this was like three years
ago now, so two and a half

550
00:35:35.030 --> 00:35:37.139
years ago. So I'm kind of
like trying to remember the timeline, but

551
00:35:38.139 --> 00:35:46.059
definitely a few months out, the
little kitten friend. Yeah, a few

552
00:35:46.099 --> 00:35:52.530
months out, I I guess.
I'm sorry, that's like I've no idea

553
00:35:52.570 --> 00:35:54.329
what I'm doing. I like no
memory of what it was. It was

554
00:35:54.369 --> 00:35:59.690
just such a like horrible blow that
I'm trying to forget. Yeah, definitely

555
00:35:59.730 --> 00:36:01.090
like that. Last month, though, before we sent it off, was

556
00:36:01.210 --> 00:36:06.559
when I like really hustled. But
I started like the entire opt I was

557
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:12.039
like gathering, putting everything into files
and my thing. And Yeah, it's

558
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.280
a lot of chasing people to get
signatures and stuff like that. So but

559
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:21.909
now they say I'm because the timelines
it takes so much longer now. You

560
00:36:22.030 --> 00:36:24.949
definitely have to start applying earlier.
So mine I'm going to be reapplying for

561
00:36:25.030 --> 00:36:30.030
my second one. That will need
to be like approved by May next year,

562
00:36:30.070 --> 00:36:34.420
because that's what my first from runs
out, and my lawyer has said

563
00:36:34.420 --> 00:36:37.260
that I should be applying in November, which is why I was like,

564
00:36:37.340 --> 00:36:39.500
okay, great, so we'll send
it off in like February. She was

565
00:36:39.539 --> 00:36:44.019
like no, no, like we're
going to be doing it in November.

566
00:36:44.219 --> 00:36:49.610
I was like, because the weight
times have been like drastically like elongated,

567
00:36:49.650 --> 00:36:54.010
yes, with some of the like
changes from the current administration, and yeah,

568
00:36:54.130 --> 00:36:59.769
just takes aways longer, and also
because now the there's been like a

569
00:36:59.809 --> 00:37:04.440
huge tick uptick in our fees,
which is a request for evidence. So

570
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.320
it's very common now. I didn't
get one, but now everyone, everyone

571
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.960
who's a year behind me because they
did company in my year at school,

572
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:16.150
who's applying after me, I think
like a great majority of them received an

573
00:37:16.190 --> 00:37:20.590
RF. So what it's that exactly? It's called a request for evidence and

574
00:37:20.710 --> 00:37:25.389
basically, I don't know this because
I'm not like sitting in the room,

575
00:37:25.550 --> 00:37:30.539
but it kind of seems to be
that they'll send it right before they're supposed

576
00:37:30.539 --> 00:37:32.860
to have given you an answer and
it might just be to give them some

577
00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:37.820
more time, but essentially it's being
like it could be for multiple reasons,

578
00:37:37.900 --> 00:37:42.980
but it could be like we don't
think that there's enough information here that proves

579
00:37:43.500 --> 00:37:45.849
or they could have a specific question
about it, like you know, specific

580
00:37:45.969 --> 00:37:51.090
document, or something could administrative could
have gone wrong and like you have to

581
00:37:51.170 --> 00:37:54.130
Redo something. There's so many different
reasons, but essentially it means you kind

582
00:37:54.130 --> 00:37:59.239
of have to go back to the
drawing board, do whatever they need done

583
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:04.320
better and like with more detail,
okay, and then kind of like send

584
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.519
it back to them. But what
it means, unfortunately, is like another

585
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.360
like two months could be added on. MM. So it had like that's

586
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.510
why applying earlier is better, because
it's that happens. You're not like eating

587
00:38:14.630 --> 00:38:16.429
time into your opt if, you
know, if it's not improved by when

588
00:38:16.429 --> 00:38:20.469
you thought was going to be a
pretty back okay. Yeah, yeah,

589
00:38:20.590 --> 00:38:23.150
good to know. How did you
deal with like the waiting periods, like

590
00:38:23.230 --> 00:38:27.820
you kind of briefly spook before about
like what's happening now? The fact that

591
00:38:28.539 --> 00:38:32.099
nothing's really going on? Yeah,
but not even throughout opt, but oh

592
00:38:32.179 --> 00:38:36.139
one as well. The obviously there
are periods are things are going really well.

593
00:38:36.179 --> 00:38:42.250
Yeah, how did you manage the
down periods, especially just with yourself.

594
00:38:42.289 --> 00:38:45.730
Yeah, like, not even career
wise, just like keeping that confidence

595
00:38:45.769 --> 00:38:49.650
in yourself, like this is the
right thing, and then you're, yeah,

596
00:38:49.809 --> 00:38:52.849
not on soundtrack, random like wild, yes, Jas. I think

597
00:38:52.929 --> 00:38:55.480
the best advice I've I have,
because I figured out for myself, is

598
00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.280
like you have to find a side
hustle job that makes you happy and is

599
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.440
fulfilling and even if it's got nothing
to do with your career, that just

600
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.400
you don't do something you like,
you don't hate going to work every day.

601
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:12.269
That finding something that I really enjoy
doing day to day was so important

602
00:39:12.309 --> 00:39:15.789
because I spent, you know,
a good year, year and a half,

603
00:39:15.869 --> 00:39:19.150
doing a side job that, while
it was great money, it really

604
00:39:19.230 --> 00:39:22.349
was quite solved strong and it made
me multiple times just be like to I

605
00:39:22.469 --> 00:39:25.820
really want to be an actor in
this much if this is the like day

606
00:39:25.860 --> 00:39:30.699
to day grind of surviving with money. So if you can find a job

607
00:39:30.780 --> 00:39:34.380
that's full of like great people,
even like you know better, bonus.

608
00:39:34.420 --> 00:39:37.139
I mean, obviously on we have
to work within the industry, so there's

609
00:39:37.139 --> 00:39:40.170
so many options of like being an
usher in a great theater and I,

610
00:39:40.929 --> 00:39:45.489
well, pretty pandemic was working for
a Broadway theater and a role that was

611
00:39:45.489 --> 00:39:47.769
kind of created because I showed up
at a time and they were like,

612
00:39:47.849 --> 00:39:50.889
oh, we were thinking about it
creating a role. You'd be great for

613
00:39:50.929 --> 00:39:52.369
it. Do you want to do
it, when I was being like please,

614
00:39:52.409 --> 00:39:55.079
hire we so it just worked out
perfectly and I I am like a

615
00:39:55.159 --> 00:40:00.119
host of a VIP section. So
basically I just look after famous actors and

616
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.599
celebrities who come see the show,
like that's my job and I get to

617
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:07.829
see the shows and I get to
meet lots of interesting people and, like,

618
00:40:07.070 --> 00:40:09.150
you know, kind of be in
the heart of Broadway. So it

619
00:40:09.670 --> 00:40:13.510
made me really excited to go to
work every day. And so, you

620
00:40:13.590 --> 00:40:15.469
know, in those moments where it's
like, Oh wow, I haven't had

621
00:40:15.510 --> 00:40:17.429
an audition in a couple weeks,
or, you know, not feeling great

622
00:40:17.469 --> 00:40:22.940
about it, at least day to
day, I wasn't like grinding and really

623
00:40:22.219 --> 00:40:27.380
hating what I was doing. So
I think that's really important. And then

624
00:40:28.539 --> 00:40:30.980
on the other side of that is
just like, and I feel like they

625
00:40:31.019 --> 00:40:34.500
told us this at school, but
I've definitely found it to be true.

626
00:40:34.940 --> 00:40:37.690
You have to just fill your life
with so many things that make you happy

627
00:40:37.769 --> 00:40:43.530
and like that are not focusing on
acting. All these are like, you

628
00:40:43.610 --> 00:40:46.289
know, great friendship groups and,
yeah, just go and do things that

629
00:40:46.369 --> 00:40:50.400
aren't acting focus. I think you
know, there's sometimes I'm like, I

630
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:52.119
should be seeing more theater, I
should be doing this. That's like you

631
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.239
know what's like, screw it,
like just make sure that you're a kind

632
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.159
of like a well rounded human being
as well, so like the whole life

633
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.840
doesn't just get dragged into like thinking
about this. That's been really important.

634
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:06.349
Like I have a book pub but
I love to book and there's so many

635
00:41:06.349 --> 00:41:08.510
things I love to do that like
that are part of me that aren't about

636
00:41:08.510 --> 00:41:12.789
acting. And Yeah, like what
you're saying, it's just so important is

637
00:41:13.630 --> 00:41:15.989
like times where things are not going
well, to kind of be like,

638
00:41:15.110 --> 00:41:19.420
oh, but it's okay because there
are things that like make me happy day

639
00:41:19.500 --> 00:41:21.699
to day, and it's a central, I think, to live as well,

640
00:41:21.900 --> 00:41:23.460
because, like, yeah, then
that would then Serb you odd and

641
00:41:23.659 --> 00:41:29.900
exactly like if my s were just
about like struggling to be an actress and

642
00:41:29.980 --> 00:41:31.619
there was no joy in the moments
in between, like water, waste of

643
00:41:31.699 --> 00:41:36.010
life, you know. Yeah,
yeah, so try to like I mean,

644
00:41:36.289 --> 00:41:37.570
and it's not every day that you
feel like that. There's so many

645
00:41:37.570 --> 00:41:40.409
days right, you know, get
really down in the dance and I'm like,

646
00:41:42.010 --> 00:41:45.289
okay, I've been it's been like, yeah, twenty years of loving

647
00:41:45.369 --> 00:41:49.480
this, but like, I guess, ten of actively pursuing it as it

648
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.800
a career, and you know,
you imagine you'd be so much further along

649
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:54.880
than you are some days and I
get really can get me down, but

650
00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:00.239
for the most part I try to
like just stay positive about it and focus

651
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:01.750
on, like all the other good
things I have in my life. Yeah,

652
00:42:01.789 --> 00:42:07.869
it's all about perspective, all about
yeah, lightnings during horror stories.

653
00:42:07.829 --> 00:42:13.670
What horror stories? What about?
I feel we want to share really positive

654
00:42:13.710 --> 00:42:15.940
face. So I'm to honest that
they thought it would be really, like

655
00:42:16.300 --> 00:42:20.980
interesting to hear like pretty truths.
I like bad things. Maybe like an

656
00:42:21.019 --> 00:42:24.860
audition hard. Oh my God,
I so many audition heart yeah, Oh,

657
00:42:24.940 --> 00:42:30.769
I'm so interested. Had so many
auditions go so badly you walk out

658
00:42:30.809 --> 00:42:32.329
of their being. Will I ever
recover from this? I don't know.

659
00:42:34.090 --> 00:42:36.650
There was one. Oh my God, this is the worst. So like

660
00:42:37.010 --> 00:42:40.530
the day and additions always come in
like the night before, and it's like

661
00:42:40.730 --> 00:42:44.800
twelve pages for ten again the next
day. And you're at work and you're

662
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:49.000
just like how is this possible?
So many nuts for I just haven't slept.

663
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.760
But there was one and it was
like actresses must come wearing roller skates.

664
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:58.519
What? And I was like,
what the Hell, how am I

665
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.269
going to find and you know,
you're then not even look at the sides.

666
00:43:00.309 --> 00:43:05.269
I'm just madly googling, like Roller
Skate Height, not even yet roller

667
00:43:05.309 --> 00:43:07.550
skates, not roll blades, because
I was like, I have roll lights

668
00:43:07.590 --> 00:43:09.030
and made. It was like no, no, has to be roller skates.

669
00:43:09.750 --> 00:43:13.420
I was like who casually is there
in Roller Skates? What the Hell?

670
00:43:14.179 --> 00:43:16.900
So put out an instagram story being
like, per chance, does anyone

671
00:43:16.940 --> 00:43:21.780
have like roll blights and a size
nine, and someone was like yes,

672
00:43:21.940 --> 00:43:23.980
I do, so I like swung
by her apartment and picked them up.

673
00:43:24.539 --> 00:43:28.889
Had to learn how to roll eskate. Oh my God, I was like,

674
00:43:28.969 --> 00:43:30.929
I can roll a blade. This
will be easy, right. No,

675
00:43:30.010 --> 00:43:36.010
no, it's not. Also acting
whilst roller skating. What? This

676
00:43:36.170 --> 00:43:39.570
is for a TV show. And
it was like the character is a like

677
00:43:39.769 --> 00:43:45.239
a waitress at one of those like
s like roller skating dining. What is

678
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:50.039
it like? A pull up of
those things called like the one where like

679
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:54.440
the dressed up in like a costume. Yeah, like having a like mind,

680
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:59.190
like what it's called the drive in
cinema. She was like yeah,

681
00:43:59.269 --> 00:44:00.510
so she's like the waitress who,
like, you know, brings your all

682
00:44:00.550 --> 00:44:04.989
dogs whatever, and she was like
I have really skates. Yes, that's

683
00:44:05.070 --> 00:44:07.070
bold. So, yeah, rolls
getting waitresses, and I was sort of

684
00:44:07.070 --> 00:44:09.260
like whole boy. So I'm dressed
up in like, you know, obviously

685
00:44:09.260 --> 00:44:12.900
you don't dress and costume, but
I'm wearing like I put like a kind

686
00:44:12.940 --> 00:44:15.659
of like cute little miniskirt on,
like tried to look a little waitress.

687
00:44:15.739 --> 00:44:19.260
E had my roller skates, which
I'd kind of practiced on for maybe like

688
00:44:19.579 --> 00:44:27.090
forty minutes, but I was like
you had to like sot of like pull

689
00:44:27.130 --> 00:44:30.289
up and stop and then say you're
like in then do the scene, because

690
00:44:30.289 --> 00:44:32.289
it was like, you know,
she was chatting to her colleague at the

691
00:44:32.289 --> 00:44:36.130
window and one of those things.
So I was like, okay, this

692
00:44:36.210 --> 00:44:38.719
will be fine. Surely it'll just
be like standing there on roller skates.

693
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.239
They wanted us to first of all, they were like can you do a

694
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.880
couple laps of the room, and
this is like a big costume room,

695
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:46.599
it tells you, so it was
like a plenty of space, whatever.

696
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:51.119
Can you do a couple laps?
I was like sure, so like most

697
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.909
confidently did my skating. Kind of
stopping. Okay, stopping is the hardest

698
00:44:55.070 --> 00:44:58.989
on Roller Skate. You got the
little brakes on the front, but like

699
00:44:59.789 --> 00:45:04.269
it's really hard to stop. I
just kind of it's a thing that this

700
00:45:04.429 --> 00:45:06.710
is not going well. Yeah,
okay, great, we're gonna do the

701
00:45:06.750 --> 00:45:09.300
first scene. Can you skate into
it and then stop on your mark and

702
00:45:09.340 --> 00:45:13.699
then stop the scene? At which
point I was like, Oh shit,

703
00:45:14.099 --> 00:45:17.780
like I have practiced this scene from
is like stand still. I have not

704
00:45:17.940 --> 00:45:22.329
practiced rolling into it. Oh my
God. So I was like I went

705
00:45:22.409 --> 00:45:24.929
to do the first scene that I
just didn't stop, so I just kept

706
00:45:24.969 --> 00:45:31.369
rolling. It was like no worries, can you? Can you do it

707
00:45:31.449 --> 00:45:35.250
again? And I was like Uh
Huh, sir. I was like okay,

708
00:45:35.250 --> 00:45:37.480
I just need to put a little
more force on the brakes. MMM

709
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:45.559
Oh, I rolled into it and
then I like, you know, tried

710
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.119
to put the brakes on on the
front and then just went straight over and

711
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:52.150
like fell on my face and my
my tiny miniskirt came all the way up

712
00:45:52.190 --> 00:45:54.110
over my ass and then of course
you're trying to like get up on Roller

713
00:45:54.150 --> 00:45:59.190
Skate. So I was like it
was a dishast I have never been so

714
00:45:59.309 --> 00:46:01.750
embarrassed and he was like, okay, we'll just we'll just start the scene

715
00:46:01.949 --> 00:46:07.340
from a stand still be clearly like, okay, she can't skate, and

716
00:46:07.500 --> 00:46:10.739
I did it once and obviously they
were like thank you very much, and

717
00:46:10.900 --> 00:46:15.260
I like skate it out and you
know, so, like fifteen other girls,

718
00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:19.369
I'm fucking roller skates in the waiting
room. That's just like this is

719
00:46:19.449 --> 00:46:22.730
the worst audition. But I wasn't
even like mad about it. was just

720
00:46:22.969 --> 00:46:30.010
so funny. It was probably the
worst edition where it's yeah, makes for

721
00:46:30.050 --> 00:46:32.760
a great story, it's a great
ye, hindsight, but I was so

722
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.760
embarrassed and I haven't been called back
into that office since. I'm like,

723
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.840
yeah, that's fun, that's okay, I deserve that, my ass,

724
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:47.670
and you also make like so my
pants. Oh yeah, that's what about

725
00:46:47.670 --> 00:46:52.349
you guys? What was your last
hard story so far? Have you had

726
00:46:52.349 --> 00:46:59.389
any? Oh, I have a
horse res okay, I'm like jollie cocks.

727
00:47:00.309 --> 00:47:06.940
Oh, I'M gonna cry. I
guess when you end up on a

728
00:47:07.019 --> 00:47:09.340
talk show story. Yes, it's
not like grain. It's like it's a

729
00:47:09.420 --> 00:47:13.500
humiliating story, like when I think
of like embarrassing things that have happened,

730
00:47:13.619 --> 00:47:15.889
that was somewhat to do aboucting.
This definitely was in that world. But

731
00:47:15.969 --> 00:47:20.969
I saw betrayal last year, yes, on broad it was amazing. Anyways,

732
00:47:21.010 --> 00:47:25.809
the later, yea, so good, so great. Anyway, sorry.

733
00:47:25.929 --> 00:47:29.449
Anyway, did you see the show? Yes, so you know how

734
00:47:29.570 --> 00:47:31.480
like mooving it is, and at
the end, like I think that's like

735
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:35.320
maybe I was just having a bad
day or like some stuff was happening with

736
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.239
me. Anyway, but like I
was very, very moved and could like

737
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:42.119
one edge off like crying. Oh
my God, what is the you know

738
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.869
what is like? Feeling like someone
inspired but also just like so like heartbroken.

739
00:47:45.989 --> 00:47:49.949
Anyway, yeah, so I was
with my parents and they had gone

740
00:47:49.989 --> 00:47:52.989
back to the Hotep Su visiting me, and then I was on the subway

741
00:47:52.030 --> 00:47:57.630
back and in my car on the
sea train is Zoll Acton and Charlie Cocks,

742
00:47:57.670 --> 00:47:59.900
Oh my God, sitting the sitting
right. Yeah, and I like

743
00:48:00.099 --> 00:48:01.260
I don't like, you know,
don't like don't talk to it. Let's

744
00:48:01.300 --> 00:48:04.340
like leave, let them go out. And I just did a show,

745
00:48:04.739 --> 00:48:07.500
but they're sitting there just like ballion
one in the car is just them and

746
00:48:07.539 --> 00:48:09.260
there's like empty chairs and I'm just
standing there. I like have this whole

747
00:48:09.300 --> 00:48:12.619
moment. have been like I should
go up and just say hi, like

748
00:48:12.699 --> 00:48:15.210
I wasn't gonna ask for a photo
or anything. I just wanted to be

749
00:48:15.289 --> 00:48:17.530
like hey, I was really moved
by you beforeans was really inspiring. Blah,

750
00:48:17.570 --> 00:48:24.889
blah, Blah whatever. That was
a mistake. Over and I started

751
00:48:24.929 --> 00:48:30.199
not talking to the Ashton. They's
so, so lovely. But something happens

752
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:35.840
to me and I cannot describe it
in words. I cannot intellectualize it,

753
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:38.679
but I could literally to only compare, like from what I've heard, it

754
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:43.070
would be like equivalent, like an
ego death, like when you like your

755
00:48:43.110 --> 00:48:46.869
body, and like something just takes
over and I start I just start crying

756
00:48:46.949 --> 00:48:51.750
profusely, oh my God, like
I'm just like pouring and I like I

757
00:48:51.789 --> 00:48:53.349
don't know what's happening with us,
wording about the plan that I just started

758
00:48:53.349 --> 00:48:57.380
crying and like so Ashen is holding
me by. Charlie Cox is like trying

759
00:48:57.380 --> 00:49:02.019
to talk to me about Australia and
fast story. This is even know it

760
00:49:02.179 --> 00:49:07.059
was. It was so I just
hound so because I never a few times

761
00:49:07.099 --> 00:49:09.690
and she is just like is it
not sweet? Yeah, I'm shure she's

762
00:49:09.730 --> 00:49:14.769
like this. She was so,
so sweet, Um and so lovely,

763
00:49:14.769 --> 00:49:16.809
but I'm literally like meaning like two
afters. I really admire and I'm balling

764
00:49:16.849 --> 00:49:20.250
my eyes out in front of them
like the whole time and I was very,

765
00:49:20.409 --> 00:49:24.599
very embarrassed. I really wanted to
like impress them. If you would

766
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.280
just be like O, kick,
great, like you're really cool. I

767
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:30.199
came fine, maybe, but instead
you go to like chat, to tell

768
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:35.079
about Australia. Yeah, but like
trying to like help me out. That

769
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:39.429
likely came with this fuck girl.
It's clearly distressed about something. Just like

770
00:49:39.590 --> 00:49:44.989
done this show and when I go
home like anyway, amazing. But yeah,

771
00:49:45.070 --> 00:49:47.110
they get off. I Suo Way
and I just say I like what

772
00:49:47.590 --> 00:49:51.710
I speaking about. How that has
reminded me of another horror story. Yeah,

773
00:49:51.909 --> 00:49:57.619
like it's good advice to yeah,
but BES is so I'm like how

774
00:49:57.619 --> 00:50:00.260
much fast for do we need about
this to like not make it boring?

775
00:50:00.059 --> 00:50:05.340
I was auditioning and it was like
the like the second of the third time.

776
00:50:05.340 --> 00:50:07.730
I was auditioning for blue bloods,
which is like such a classic New

777
00:50:07.769 --> 00:50:09.570
York. Thank you. You're an
actor. It's kind of like you will

778
00:50:09.570 --> 00:50:14.809
at some point go in for like
blackbirds, bloods, a black exactly like

779
00:50:14.849 --> 00:50:17.530
all those, like all the crime
shows, and the same office that had

780
00:50:17.530 --> 00:50:21.289
put me in high town. So
I felt like I had like pretty nice

781
00:50:21.289 --> 00:50:24.119
rapport with the with the costing directors
and everything, and because of that I

782
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:30.159
think they actually started putting me straight
through to the producer session for blue bloods,

783
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:30.519
which is great because I means,
you know, you don't have to

784
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:34.559
do the original one. They just
you're there in that final day where they're

785
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:38.269
going to pick Um, and so
it's in front of like ten people.

786
00:50:39.590 --> 00:50:44.949
You've got like all the executive produces, director of the episode right of your

787
00:50:44.949 --> 00:50:50.019
episode, whatever, the three casting
directors, your reader, and the audition

788
00:50:50.099 --> 00:50:52.059
went south, like it just went
really well, like the first scene.

789
00:50:52.980 --> 00:50:55.579
I think I just like I prept
really well. I felt really excited about

790
00:50:55.579 --> 00:51:00.300
the character. Had done a lot
of that book. I recommended to you

791
00:51:00.300 --> 00:51:02.980
guys. It's a goose Yah.
I mean I had liked in my library.

792
00:51:04.059 --> 00:51:07.929
Now, yes, spreading your spreading
it, like yeah, done my

793
00:51:07.010 --> 00:51:10.530
like Little Ellen Novak, you know, prepared an audition, felt really good

794
00:51:10.530 --> 00:51:15.369
about it and there was like silence
after I'd finished. I was kind of

795
00:51:15.449 --> 00:51:20.920
like like I've done it's one and
the director, I think it was the

796
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:22.599
directors, one of them anyways,
was like Oh, I didn't realize the

797
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.719
scene was over. I was so
like involved in that, and so of

798
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:29.639
course that's just like this little eager
bostrounds like Oh, okay, great,

799
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:30.320
they like they like to we didn't. He was like great, yeah,

800
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:34.510
let's let's go on at the next
scene. Loved it to the next scene.

801
00:51:34.590 --> 00:51:36.550
By then, you know, I'm
feeling like a great on in this

802
00:51:36.590 --> 00:51:37.750
room. I feel so confident.
Was One. It was the best edition

803
00:51:37.789 --> 00:51:40.869
I've ever had in my life.
HMM. When I finished, they literally

804
00:51:40.909 --> 00:51:44.510
would like any does anyone? Anyone
have any notes for that? Anyone would

805
00:51:44.510 --> 00:51:46.030
need to see anything again? No, great, and he goes okay,

806
00:51:46.110 --> 00:51:50.099
that was a really perfect get out
of here and I was like Oh okay,

807
00:51:50.219 --> 00:51:54.500
like, oh my gosh, amazing. So I go to work that

808
00:51:54.619 --> 00:52:00.579
night and it was the opening night
of seawall alive, which is at the

809
00:52:00.860 --> 00:52:02.570
Hudson, which is the theater that
I work at, and so of course

810
00:52:02.650 --> 00:52:07.409
we're having like the big pretty show. They have all like the VIP's in

811
00:52:07.530 --> 00:52:10.250
the lounge and I'm there just sort
of like, you know, keeping an

812
00:52:10.250 --> 00:52:13.369
eye on things, greeting everyone.
When it's time to go in, I'm

813
00:52:13.369 --> 00:52:17.719
like a came really time to let's
go to us eat town and the cost

814
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:22.360
of betrayal of it, because they
had just arrived. I think they opened

815
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:27.840
in like a few weeks later,
and they were coming, because it's the

816
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.110
same producers and everything. And Eddie, my good friend for my days in

817
00:52:30.150 --> 00:52:32.630
London, you know, for some
time we had seen each other and like

818
00:52:34.070 --> 00:52:36.070
a year and a half I think, and of course he was coming.

819
00:52:36.110 --> 00:52:37.750
He was on my guest list.
Amazing. So we like we see each

820
00:52:37.789 --> 00:52:42.750
other. We like this big squeel. Were so excited and then I get

821
00:52:42.789 --> 00:52:47.619
a I get a text or an
email from my agent and she was like

822
00:52:49.059 --> 00:52:52.619
okay, you let congratulations, like
you booked, you booked the pot today,

823
00:52:52.739 --> 00:52:55.340
like well done, they loved you. They just called me. They're

824
00:52:55.380 --> 00:52:59.730
so excited about you, and I
was like, Oh my God. And

825
00:52:59.929 --> 00:53:01.170
so I had must have told him
I had an Oden that day. He's

826
00:53:01.210 --> 00:53:04.889
like, how did your addition go? And I told and I was like,

827
00:53:04.969 --> 00:53:07.329
Oh my God, I booked it. So excited I would be a

828
00:53:07.369 --> 00:53:08.769
blue bloods, and I think because
I was like, you know, I

829
00:53:08.929 --> 00:53:12.960
was working this event, but they
were all there as like successful actors,

830
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:16.679
and then he like introduced me to
like zooey and Tom Hidleston. Charlie got

831
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:20.559
season as my friend Daddie, and
she's an actress to and she just book

832
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:22.840
blue bloods. And then Zai was
like, Oh my God, Daddie,

833
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:28.110
I like love, what's his name? The actor Tom Someone I really should

834
00:53:28.110 --> 00:53:30.630
always say, but she was like, Oh my God, I have had

835
00:53:30.670 --> 00:53:36.269
it such a he's like Monica's like
older lover and friends, Richard, that

836
00:53:36.670 --> 00:53:38.909
bad actor who's I can't remember his
name. I feel like it's I know,

837
00:53:38.989 --> 00:53:44.139
I can't agree if that his name. He's obviously the lead and blue

838
00:53:44.139 --> 00:53:46.300
bloods. And she was like I
have such a crush on him. I

839
00:53:46.579 --> 00:53:50.099
like, I'm so jealous. You
get to work with him. I wandered

840
00:53:50.179 --> 00:53:52.699
like the you know, the push
show, like opening night, swarry whatever,

841
00:53:52.780 --> 00:53:55.050
and I'm, you know, standing
with him like feeling so cool,

842
00:53:55.250 --> 00:54:00.730
like Oh, I'm an act too
and I actually like have something to talk

843
00:54:00.769 --> 00:54:02.610
about. This is so cool.
And then I got a call the next

844
00:54:02.610 --> 00:54:07.690
day that was like yeah, they
you've been let go, like they had

845
00:54:07.730 --> 00:54:08.769
to go with someone else because actually, like they changed their mind. You

846
00:54:08.769 --> 00:54:13.079
don't old enough for the pot,
which is fair, because it was a

847
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:15.559
thirty five year old and I,
like, I really don't look thirty five

848
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:20.719
Um screen, and it was to
play the oldest sister of another character who

849
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.000
obviously just looked way older than I
did. So they obviously like, Oh,

850
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.190
actually, you know what, that
doesn't work. Pick someone else.

851
00:54:25.949 --> 00:54:29.750
And then I had to do in
about face when I sold him the next

852
00:54:29.750 --> 00:54:30.869
time, it was like, Oh
my God, how, like, how

853
00:54:31.110 --> 00:54:35.510
is work? How is blue was
and had to be like Oh, yeah,

854
00:54:36.949 --> 00:54:39.980
yeah, that didn't work out.
So my advice is never tell anybody

855
00:54:40.260 --> 00:54:44.860
about a job which sitting in that
makeup chair. Even then, I've heard

856
00:54:44.900 --> 00:54:47.099
a horror story of someone getting replaced
in the makeup chair. So lesson,

857
00:54:47.219 --> 00:54:50.780
which my friend told me when I
told him about this story, he's like,

858
00:54:50.860 --> 00:54:54.409
listen, could be worse, fired
like on the day. So,

859
00:54:55.010 --> 00:54:58.769
yeah, lesson. Learn until you've
like signed a contract and you were a

860
00:54:58.769 --> 00:55:06.530
hundred percent sure, yeah, he
but the list. Look, at least

861
00:55:06.530 --> 00:55:10.199
you had that done so good at
the time. Yeah, I will never

862
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:15.199
like Brag about a job ever again. Until it is, like until I've

863
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:16.599
seen it on TV, because I
think cut from things as well, and

864
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:21.000
tell people to watch it. It's
not not an even make it to the

865
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.750
episode, and I was like,
Oh God, how barrassing. Yeah,

866
00:55:23.829 --> 00:55:29.869
now I weren't even like have a
watch party because I'm not convinced every made

867
00:55:29.909 --> 00:55:32.949
anything. Literally, you have to
wait like two years offer it's comment exactly

868
00:55:34.030 --> 00:55:37.219
he's like. Then you can tell. You remember when I was like nine

869
00:55:37.260 --> 00:55:38.699
years old, my brother and I, my brother was like the one who's

870
00:55:38.739 --> 00:55:46.380
really into acting and we were extras
and knowing, HMM and super super said

871
00:55:46.420 --> 00:55:51.170
about like my whole family ends up
being extra's in this film because like this

872
00:55:51.369 --> 00:55:53.610
was his passion and he ends up
like they had this whole shot of like

873
00:55:53.650 --> 00:55:58.530
him walking down these stairs and really
a bell, so excited, so excited,

874
00:55:58.570 --> 00:56:00.369
and like my entire family ghost like
seat in cinema is completely cut.

875
00:56:00.409 --> 00:56:05.239
Like he's not bad, made the
background. He's like you never want to

876
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:17.630
be on the sum sorry, actor, your brother knows it's because of the

877
00:56:17.670 --> 00:56:24.150
cause, because you ready, yeah, you're a like super e sad drags

878
00:56:24.190 --> 00:56:28.150
an time, like it wasn't just
a he's like family and friends, which

879
00:56:28.190 --> 00:56:35.380
is extras, but I was like, I'm so sorry, the horror story

880
00:56:35.420 --> 00:56:39.300
is a lot meant an interesting really
love a good horror story, but there's

881
00:56:39.340 --> 00:56:42.340
so any more. I A boy, you with a the like yeah,

882
00:56:42.460 --> 00:56:47.730
the definitely falling on the falling on
my face on that roller skates was tradition

883
00:56:47.809 --> 00:56:51.050
I've ever had in my life.
I just doesn't get any more than that.

884
00:56:51.449 --> 00:56:54.250
Like factor of things going wrong.
I forgot my lines as well.

885
00:56:54.289 --> 00:57:01.599
exacts so fast and stress of wheels. No, cause nobody can't run a

886
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:06.960
bike. I was being a problem
all somewhat that we keep like meaning to

887
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.000
teach her and then I keep you
like let's get my guts are like,

888
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:12.840
oh wait, we need do this. Is like does this fistem from something?

889
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:15.360
Like did you? It's a fear. I've just like never lend,

890
00:57:15.389 --> 00:57:19.269
so I will definitely steal. I
think I would go in for the roll

891
00:57:19.349 --> 00:57:22.269
skates, whause, I think because
I had rolled lading. Also, like,

892
00:57:22.510 --> 00:57:27.710
speaking of just like random things,
what if some of the skills you

893
00:57:27.789 --> 00:57:32.019
have on your resume just so good? I had roll the lading on there,

894
00:57:32.059 --> 00:57:35.340
and I think that's why my agent
was like great, you can roll

895
00:57:35.380 --> 00:57:37.659
the skate right, and I was
like course, I kind of. Yeah,

896
00:57:38.619 --> 00:57:42.139
yeah, I would love to ask, like all my favorite acts,

897
00:57:42.179 --> 00:57:47.769
like what's the biggest? Most you
put it near rest. I think might

898
00:57:47.929 --> 00:57:53.449
be accents, like being like Oh, I can't do any radio. I've

899
00:57:53.730 --> 00:57:57.090
that's come back to buy me,
because I've had auditions the next day that

900
00:57:57.170 --> 00:58:01.000
seemed like Russian or Irish, like
and you know, back in the day

901
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:04.079
when I was writing the resume,
it's cool. Yeah, we were doing

902
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:06.519
IPA. I was like pretty confident
that I could do it, and now

903
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.480
I'm like no, my God,
rude. It's like American, Australian,

904
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:17.190
take it out, pretty good southern
accent. Yeah, mildly possible Boston accent

905
00:58:17.309 --> 00:58:20.630
now, because that's you know,
I was doing it for the auditions.

906
00:58:20.909 --> 00:58:23.789
I'm sure your British must be pretty
decent after going there as well. Surprisingly,

907
00:58:23.869 --> 00:58:29.539
it's rubbish. It's just so many
British accents. I can never quite

908
00:58:29.539 --> 00:58:32.739
decide like yeah, like the right
one that should be like my British accent,

909
00:58:34.019 --> 00:58:36.539
and I go in for English things
all the time because they're like you're

910
00:58:36.539 --> 00:58:43.449
Australian, quiz enough. Yeah,
yeah, I feel like my Americans waste

911
00:58:43.489 --> 00:58:45.489
from it now, but I think
it's just because I'm like out of practice.

912
00:58:45.530 --> 00:58:49.010
So I actually get really need sus
of that auditioning in an English action.

913
00:58:49.650 --> 00:58:52.010
Well, I found this learning the
English harder. Anyway. I think

914
00:58:52.050 --> 00:58:54.840
I think it's like the pretty like
common problem with being like it's just too

915
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:58.760
similar to an Australia, whereas the
American is so different, so you can

916
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:01.280
really just separate them totally, whereas
I just feel like myself, like I'm

917
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:07.679
slipping into a little I've had so
many like zoom auditions by someone's like Oh

918
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:12.349
my God, like you're from UK. I know not at all, which

919
00:59:12.710 --> 00:59:15.030
I did like something in a British
ee's. Now like, Oh, where

920
00:59:15.070 --> 00:59:21.710
are you from? From Australia.
I did my slate in like General,

921
00:59:21.750 --> 00:59:25.139
American did base was in like British, and the afters I've just told myself

922
00:59:25.460 --> 00:59:30.460
like I'm so confused, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause so much

923
00:59:30.500 --> 00:59:37.500
confusion. That's that's nice. Yeah, an accent like I'm sorry, just

924
00:59:37.380 --> 00:59:43.809
be myself and you guys can decide. No, yeah, trying to think.

925
00:59:43.849 --> 00:59:45.969
Well, the school I have,
I feel like I just said,

926
00:59:46.090 --> 00:59:54.440
like sports down. Yeah, I
definitely school rock climbing and climb when you

927
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:57.880
talk about I was like, I've
done it a few time. Yeah,

928
00:59:57.880 --> 00:60:04.360
I would like your loving canst think
I have kayaking on my resume. Yeah,

929
00:60:05.119 --> 00:60:12.989
I'm sailing at one point now,
going the walls. When I got

930
00:60:13.190 --> 00:60:15.429
down? Yeah, I go down
the face. It needed sure, when

931
00:60:15.469 --> 00:60:22.260
I shit myself. Yeah, yeah, I feel like I should definitely also

932
00:60:22.300 --> 00:60:24.420
adjust, like stage combat, like
we school. But I don't know.

933
00:60:24.539 --> 00:60:28.219
We did it. We ended up
doing some stage combat one. That's just

934
00:60:28.300 --> 00:60:32.780
everything on the zoomed. Yes,
that's okay. Safely punched someone. I'd

935
00:60:32.820 --> 00:60:38.610
be like people just like mirror,
like Indiana joint so this. Yeah,

936
00:60:38.650 --> 00:60:43.730
it was. It was a whole
thing. Just very qualified. Yeah,

937
00:60:43.769 --> 00:60:49.929
very, very qualified actors. please. Yes, sale can fight absintely roll

938
00:60:50.039 --> 00:60:54.119
scay. I don't think I'll ever
get in a pair of rolls case everything

939
00:60:57.599 --> 00:61:04.789
see them like shame embarrassing. One
final questions. I. What are you

940
00:61:04.869 --> 00:61:09.750
looking forward to post pandemic? Yeah, and what's going on you please?

941
00:61:09.949 --> 00:61:15.989
Yeah, plug away. Nothing,
absolutely nothing. No, it's been really

942
00:61:16.030 --> 00:61:20.260
I mean we're all in the same
boat. It's just kind of like we've

943
00:61:20.340 --> 00:61:22.019
no idea what the landscape of the
industry is going to look like. It's

944
00:61:22.099 --> 00:61:25.340
like a little stressful it's a little
freeing as well, because it's kind of

945
00:61:25.340 --> 00:61:29.260
just like okay, great, like
we're all in the same boat. We're

946
00:61:29.260 --> 00:61:31.820
all going to be like figuring it
out as we go. I think there

947
00:61:31.860 --> 00:61:37.409
are so many riders right now stuck
inside writing scripts. We've watched all the

948
00:61:37.489 --> 00:61:39.809
content. Like the real is there. I feel like there's going to be

949
00:61:39.849 --> 00:61:43.250
such a like hunger and I think
the industry is going to bounce back really

950
00:61:43.250 --> 00:61:45.210
quickly when it is safe to do
so. So I'm not like, I'm

951
00:61:45.250 --> 00:61:49.920
not really worried about that. But
I mean in terms of yeah, I

952
00:61:50.039 --> 00:61:52.360
have like nothing coming up, which
is kind of I mean, it's usual.

953
00:61:52.400 --> 00:61:54.079
We're an active like you know.
I mean you finished one job.

954
00:61:54.119 --> 00:62:00.960
You don't know what's coming next,
which is Harry. But I have hope.

955
00:62:00.000 --> 00:62:05.190
I'm excited. I feel like,
yeah, it was a bit disappointing,

956
00:62:06.550 --> 00:62:09.190
you know, having the show that
I'm in come out now and not

957
00:62:09.309 --> 00:62:14.630
being able to like use that momentum
and that buzz. I like having something

958
00:62:15.269 --> 00:62:19.019
current on my resume and get to
like go into, you know, rooms

959
00:62:19.059 --> 00:62:21.219
and even have something to talk about, like they're like Oh, great,

960
00:62:21.260 --> 00:62:23.019
you're in that show. You know
what I mean? I was really looking

961
00:62:23.059 --> 00:62:27.619
forward to that for a whole year, because we shot this a year ago.

962
00:62:27.699 --> 00:62:30.489
Yeah, that's me, like waiting
for so long and getting so excited

963
00:62:30.489 --> 00:62:34.170
about it and then, yeah,
coming during this time. And do you

964
00:62:34.250 --> 00:62:36.809
think by the time we will be
back in rooms again, that too much

965
00:62:36.809 --> 00:62:38.769
time want to pass between scotting out
too like really what I'm like, yeah,

966
00:62:38.769 --> 00:62:40.530
I'm worried about but at the end
of the day, like you know,

967
00:62:40.650 --> 00:62:44.170
it's I'm so proud that I was
in it and you know that I

968
00:62:44.400 --> 00:62:46.760
like got that part and did it
so and I'm proud of the work that

969
00:62:46.840 --> 00:62:50.960
I've done. From what I've seen
so far, I was like very nervous.

970
00:62:51.519 --> 00:62:55.239
I think anon likes watching themselves back, but and I remember I was

971
00:62:55.280 --> 00:62:58.869
so nervous on set, but like, as the episodes are going along,

972
00:62:58.949 --> 00:63:01.349
you can I can like noll and
I because I remember that I was starting

973
00:63:01.389 --> 00:63:06.909
to feel like much more like comfortable
on set and on camera, and so,

974
00:63:07.070 --> 00:63:08.469
yeah, so we'll see. I
it a little worried, yeah,

975
00:63:08.550 --> 00:63:13.179
but it doesn't I was talking to
a really good friend of mine about it,

976
00:63:14.300 --> 00:63:16.900
Luke Levil. Oh, yeah,
just like the most wonderful, intelligent

977
00:63:16.900 --> 00:63:22.739
human being ever and talking sort of
about the disappointment of and also just because

978
00:63:22.900 --> 00:63:25.579
like the current climate and the you
know, civil rights movement that's happening,

979
00:63:25.619 --> 00:63:30.130
like it just doesn't it's not appropriate. Like I don't, yeah, it

980
00:63:30.210 --> 00:63:35.210
doesn't feel important. You know what
I mean to be like doing self promotion

981
00:63:35.289 --> 00:63:37.090
and talking about, like look what
I've achieved your ago, like it just

982
00:63:37.170 --> 00:63:40.880
doesn't feel important anymore. So there's
that as well. And we were kind

983
00:63:40.920 --> 00:63:45.519
of talking about that and and he
was like it doesn't yeah, like what

984
00:63:45.559 --> 00:63:47.480
I just said before. He was
kind of you made me feel so much

985
00:63:47.480 --> 00:63:52.239
good. It feels like doesn't take
away the fact that, like you achieve

986
00:63:52.400 --> 00:63:54.239
this and, like you know,
there's so much years of hustle to go

987
00:63:54.360 --> 00:63:57.469
in and like this is what we
do it for, because we want to

988
00:63:57.590 --> 00:64:00.269
like be part of, you know, a show. We want to do

989
00:64:00.389 --> 00:64:02.989
the work and like you've done that
and like you have that and you'll always

990
00:64:02.989 --> 00:64:04.670
have that. And I was like, oh, that's such a like nice

991
00:64:04.670 --> 00:64:08.789
way to look at it. Thank
you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

992
00:64:10.420 --> 00:64:13.340
I should never take myne credit.
Exactly. Proud of yourself. Yeah,

993
00:64:16.139 --> 00:64:18.780
you're ready for good. Buy It. So we doing it in UN it's

994
00:64:18.780 --> 00:64:23.460
very, very cheesy. We're doing
in unison by. Yeah, yeah,

995
00:64:24.059 --> 00:64:28.690
we're gonna good by Um. Yeah, you kept me in. Three,

996
00:64:29.369 --> 00:64:30.289
two, one, bye.