Capital Letdown | Guest: Steve Politi of NJ.com (SOTFA EP251)

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Happy Devils Wednesday. This is the
State of the Fan Address, Episode two
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fifty one. I'm your host Sam
wu Here with pucks and PITCHFORKS dot COM's
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editor in chief Nick Volano, streaming
live on Facebook Live, YouTube Live,
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x Live, and Twitch on the
Let's Go Devils Network. We got a
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big podcast tonight. I just can't
wait. Nick. It's one of my
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favorite writers coming on. Yeah,
big podcasts after the big tailgate. And
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I gotta say Sam before we have
Steve on, because we have Steve Palidi
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from NJ dot Com coming on tonight. Really excited. He wrote a fantastic
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piece about the Stadium series and a
really if you haven't read it yet,
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you really should jump on. We've
been telling you to subscribe to NJ dot
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com for Rhino Vizinski, but to
get Steve Palidi on top of that.
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You know now now it's just smart
support local journalism, ladies and gentlemen.
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But I just want to talk about
the Stadium series real quick, because I
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know we're gonna get into this Washington
Capitals game that happened last night and just
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the future effort in the third when
the game was still at hand and you
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were dominating them for the first two
periods. I thought, I could not
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think of a better way to knock
it out of the park than what the
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Devils and the NHL did this weekend. The stadium series was fun, it
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was rehearted, It hit all the
notes for an experience. I didn't I
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know you and I did not get
to go to the that NHL experience in
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the in the parking lot, yeah, because we were doing our parking on
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podcast, we had our tailgate going
on. We were giving out food,
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giving out drinks, giving out ribs. I think six different people gave me
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ribs. It was great. I
love ribs. Ribs are amazing you Matt.
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Thank you to Matt and his wild
cherry pepsi ribs. The wild cherry
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pepsi ribs were fantastic. Thank you, Matt. I really appreciate it.
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And and you know, it was
it was an experience. And here's the
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thing same and you know, we'll
probably talk to about this with Steve a
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little bit. But have you been
seeing some like negative thought from the national
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media towards outdoor games after this weekend? I I haven't really been paying attention.
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I all I've seen is positive.
Oh yeah, So locally, it's
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very positive. I think everybody's thought
that the NHL had knocked the ball out
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of the park, you know,
getting the Jonas brothers. I know a
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lot of people were like rolling their
eyes, but like that's a big get.
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Like the Jonah's brothers sell out stadiums
on their own, so to get
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them for an NHL game, I
thought that was a big deal. In
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getting uh uh, you know,
getting them to play hol or you know,
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like goals play guess I and them
to play Holl for every goal,
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Like that was sick little note,
Like it just seemed like they really like
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hit all the aspects for Devils fans, which is which didn't really happen in
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that Stadium series game right in the
or in the one in twenty fourteen,
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because that was you know, that
was the hush hush, this is a
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Rangers home game. We're gonna pretend
it's a Rangers away game, which is
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the same thing that happened with the
Islanders the next day. You know,
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it can't be a Ranger's home game. But the Rangers get their goals song
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played, and the Rangers get you
know, the graphics when they score.
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But besides that, I wrote an
article today because the numbers came out for
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the viewership and the Devil's Flyers game
did I think one point close to one
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point two million viewers across all platforms. You add that to the seventy thousand
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people in the U in the stadium, you know, it's a home run
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win just for the Devil's game,
not including the Rangers game. The Rangers
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game, the Rangers Islanders game was
another win. You know, you obviously
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had more seats open because you didn't
have the Jones Brothers concerts, so they
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got the seventy nine thousand and then
they had I think one point six viewers.
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Obviously, it's easier to get viewers
on a Sunday afternoon than it is
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to get it on a Saturday night. So obviously the Rangers do have more
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fans, but the timing of it
really helped them as well. On top
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of all this, it was such
a positive experience between the tailgate, between
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the fan camaraderie, between everybody coming
together and really like seeing this moment,
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you know, the jerseys, the
spectacle, like everything about it just really
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seemed to go positively. And that's
before we even talk about the game where
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the Devils played very well. It
was a fun game. You know,
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the big players played well. You
had some surprise players like Nathan Baston playing
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really well, but you had Niko
Heisher scoring two goals. I just think
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that the stadium series such a pausit
experience. So then when I came and
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I like, you know, I
was listening to Athletic Hockey Show and they
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were kind of saying, like,
you know, we're kind of done with
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outdoor games. I was like,
I get it. This this is the
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fortieth outdoor game. Maybe the spectacle
has gone on somebody who watches three,
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four or five games a night and
that's your job, but the spectacle is
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not gone for the fans, especially
for the local fans. And that's what
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this is about. The outdoor game
is on national TV, and it is
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it. Honestly, it's becoming a
national TV product. Like it's you know,
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I heard some things about the ESPN
broadcast that people didn't like, but
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everything else about the experience between I
guess at the spectacle. The concerts,
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there was a surprise Jones Brothers concert
in the second remission. They went out
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and did another concert and they sang
a couple more songs you know, and
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and guess what I was there talking
about that. I was there. I
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was a road too nice. I
got to fill the fire, you know,
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the pro technics like yeah yeah.
I was like, ah, I'm
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warming up, listen. I was
in the press spot. I you know,
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I got a seat on the fourth
row. They I just made it
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Sam and just made it in.
Still, you know, I was still
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in there, you know, I
I got to I met Tom Fitzgerald.
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Nice guy. He had a he
had his cap on his Boston cap.
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He looked like ct from the Challenge, you know. It was it was
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kind of it was kind of like
weird and funny because everybody was in the
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same place. That's kind of how
uh met Life Stadium works. And I'm
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assuming they didn't give him an owner's
box, so uh Brodora was like brod
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Or and and and Cap Madigan and
Sergey Breelan and all the people who are
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up usually in like Harris's box at
Prudential Center had to be just like mingling
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with us. And it was just
like, it's very awkward because he like,
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you know, I I I again, I don't pretend to do this
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as a journalist. I'm a blogger. I'm having fun. This is I'm
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here to call it, you know, to continue conversation. So I'm not
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going to corner Fitzgerald and ask him
a bunch of questions. But I introduced
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myself because you know, it's been
a while since I've been on this beat,
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if you want to call it.
And it was but it was fun,
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like everything was great. All the
guys were mingling. Chico came up
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to I was sitting with Rhino Vezensky, James Nichols, Josh from the Hockey
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Writers, John from Pucks and Pitchforks. You know, we were all sitting
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at the table together and Chico comes
up and goes, you must be the
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Knights of the round table. But
because it was a funny, it was
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like I was with all the guys
on the beat, just kind of like
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sneaking my way in there. But
it was fun. I mean to say,
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this experience for any of the fits, I haven't heard one negative experience
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if anyone was there, not one. And it must have been anything.
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It must have been the ribs and
the and crew stew in the parking lot.
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And I finally tried the Anchor brew
and it's oh, I gotta tell
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you, Sam, I'm in trouble. It's a good beer, isn't it?
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Our very podcast? Because I I
didn't bring any home to my wife.
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Oh, don't worry about it.
I got you covered somehow. I'm
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gonna have to Yeah, I'm gonna
have to figure that one. He was
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like, oh, what did it
tastes like? I'm like, it tastes
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like a really good like gingling light
Like it's kind of like the taste that
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it kind of has. And she
goes, if you didn't bring me any,
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She's like thanks. I was like, I'm sorry, Or let drink
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the last one. Don't worry about
There's gonna be a beer run down South
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Jersey before we let our next guest
on. I have a question for you
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about the press box because I've fit. That was actually my sixth outdoor game,
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six second as a fan the press
box? Did they expose you to
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the elements? Because I went to
Rangers Flyers I believe in twenty twelve at
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at the at the ballpark and they
actually opened up the windows so you could
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feel the cold and then you know
hear all the trash talking between the fans
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as well. Did they do that
up there or no? No, No,
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that was the one that was the
one negative. And Steve could probably
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attest this, but it muted a
lot of the sound, so it's trying
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to but like I heard from a
lot of people out there that said,
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it was a very pro Devil's crowd
and it was very Devil's heavy crowd,
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and like the sound made that very
clear. It was just muting a lot
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of the sound in the press box. Yeah, all right, would you
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like to do the introductions? I'm
nervous because it's one of my favorite writers.
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Sure, I'd like to welcome one
of the better writers out there writing
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about all kinds of sports, but
Steve Palidi from NJ dot com coming and
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joining us on Let's Go Devil's Podcast, and Steve, thank you so much
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for coming on. First of all, of course, guys, I'm glad
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to do it. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Oh of
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course. Yeah. I was reading
your article that I think you put it
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on Sunday or Monday where you were
talking about the stadium experience and the experience,
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and I just wanted you to kind
of go into that, like what
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did you think of the spectacle on
Saturday? Yeah? Know, uh,
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it was. It was great.
I mean it was. It was exceeded
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my expectations. And I think the
reason why I went in with low expectations
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it was what the fortieth outdoor game
or forty first outdoor game. I mean,
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there was sort of a feel of
you know, been there, done
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that. Like I was cracking the
joke it's it's like hockey, only it's
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outdoors. You know, I was
making the entire time. But what I
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think I discounted was the fact that
obviously the Devils fans haven't had real chance
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to experience. I don't really count
Yankee Stadium. It's not the same thing.
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And the other part of it is
not like you guys talked about it,
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but like heard from a lot of
people that it was an nostalgic moment
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for especially fans closer to my age
of going back to the meadowlands, of
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being in that parking lot of look, you know, looking at the old
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footbridge and the old arena. And
it's funny because like I just didn't even
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it didn't even occur to me when
I was thinking about it that you know,
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for me, leaving content early as
arena was like goodbye, I hope
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I can come back some day and
bow. Yeah, I hope I can
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be the guy who pushed the detonated. But I get it now. For
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fans probably, you know, there's
a lot of good memories in that place,
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so being able to see it,
being able to play you know,
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hockey in the parking lot with with
a beer can. I heard a lot
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of people talking about that part of
it, which I really didn't think think
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about it until until I got there
and saw just how many Devil's fans there
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were. And you guys really showed
up. I mean, it was it
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was special, and that was the
thing. And Steve I wrote about this
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this week just that experience specifically was
the parking lot experience, because that's the
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one thing that's kind of different,
right, is that you know, Crudential
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Center. Obviously it's a big upgrade. The location is much better, it's
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right next to the train station,
it's easy to get there, The parking
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onand situation is better. But it's
not a parking lot that it induces itself
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to tailgetting like. It's a lot
of paid parking places that don't like want
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you to hang around. They want
you to just kind of park and go
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to your thing and then you go
to like America Whiskey, or you go
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to Reds or whatever, but that
kind of like encloses you. Right,
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You're not like exposed to a lot
of other fans, and most people just
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go inside. I feel like it
to that experience that brings that nostalgia.
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It's just kind of like people were
jumping from our tailgate to you know,
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I know, Brackpack had won close
by, and there was other people who
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had big tailgates, and I know, you know, you know, colleague
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of yours, Greg Wshinsky, was
bouncing around and that was kind of part
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of his beat. Was just kind
of seeming like what's going on in the
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parking lot? And he saw a
lot of really fun things, and you
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know, I saw a guy go
through a table and then you know,
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so it was a lot of fun. It was a you know, I
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called it a once in a lifetime
experience. But obviously, like I'm thirty
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five, so I do remember that
Continental Airlines Arena experience. You know,
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when I was younger, I just
didn't, you know, I wasn't old
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enough to have the adult beverages with
a lot of the other people who were
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indulging. But I did remember the
experience. But that was kind of the
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thought, like I looked at it
from a different space because I was I
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was there, and you know,
I wasn't partaking because I was in the
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press box, But it was just
a different look to know what people were
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doing, how they were acting.
Did you see anything fun going on the
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parking lot? To see anything?
Yeah, I mean I didn't. I
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didn't spend as much time as as
Wiz did out there apparently as a as
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a Devil's Devils fan in a Jersey
guy. I'm sure he got a lot
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of it too, but yeah,
I mean, it was just it was
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just like it was kind of like
a Giants game experience, but not not
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really though. It was just a
different kind of you know, like a
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lot of hockey sticks, a lot
of you know, kicking the case,
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a lot of playing with the can's
goals set up. I mean, you
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know, it was just it was
just cool and then you know, and
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then you got you can't discount the
fact that the team thought it was cool.
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Like I mean, you know,
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about that. Anytime you can take
a bunch of guys making millions of dollars
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and have them dress up as Guidos
or from Sopranos extras and just completely embrace
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it, like you know, I
mean some of the stuff like Timo Meyer
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carrying the and justper back carrying the
freaking espresso cup. And you know,
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I mean the way Nate Bashion looked
it was just like, you know,
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we saw him on the way and
I'm like, crap, he really does
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look like like he could be standing
beyond Christopher Montasanti and at the bottom bing
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and you'd be like you wouldn't even
blink. Yeah, I mean, they
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really seem to enjoy this part of
it too. I think they added to
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it. I think you could feel
that, like you know, the season's
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a grind, it's eighty two games, you're playing in a lot of same
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arena a million times. Something new
and something that that that was kind of
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contagious too, and and they fed
off the crowd, like I really believe
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that, Like you know, they
they they talked about it. They said
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they were some of them, like
guys like Nico, some of them were
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just like seemed gobsmacked by it,
like you know, and I kind of
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wrote it like I kind of wrote
about it. I don't know if I
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got the point across. But like
Devils have always had this moment where like
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they get overshadowed by like they play
the Rangers in a playoff series and there's
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eight thousand Rangers fans in the building. It's like, you know, just
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frustrating to see that. But this
is a moment where like, all right,
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this is your moment on stage,
and how many Flyers fans were there?
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I couldn't even like, I couldn't
even notice them. I mean,
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it was really not not me not
certainly they didn't. They didn't you know,
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had probably I would say eighty five
to fifteen breakdown from the crowd.
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So I mean that part of it. I think they really appreciated that.
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And obviously, you know, the
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standpoint too. That's a surprise,
right because the Fires are like higher than
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the Devils in the standing. This
isn't like a bad Fires team, right,
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Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you
would think they you know, they
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would make the trip up. But
sorry, So that's good for us,
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And it was a lot of It
was a lot of fun. It was
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great to kind of just be there
and just see the elements and everything.
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But as with a lot of big
Devils wins this year. Yeah, it's
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followed by a pretty deflating loss last
night against the Capitals. The Devils lost.
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I don't even remember the final score
to beyond I think at six to
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two they were better than the Capitals
and periods one and two and went into
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the third period losing and then you
know, once they scored that third goal,
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the wheels fell off and I just
couldn't stop anything, and the offense
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couldn't generate anything. It was just
bad from top to bottom. So as
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you look at this team and the
team that you saw last night, what
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are we thinking? Are we thinking? You know? And then on top
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of it, it was Flyers are
Islanders ot win over the Penguin, so
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everybody gets points. The Rangers won
the red Wings one on Monday. Where
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are you thinking? Are you thinking
the Devils are kind of blowing their chance
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to make a push for the playoffs? I mean, suret answer yes,
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Then they've just lost. They've lost
that game. They've lost some version of
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that game too many times this year. And how many points have they thrown
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away against an inferior opponent? And
that's they didn't do that last year?
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You know, like I mean,
it seems like every time they played a
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bad team last year, they stomped
in their nexts and moved on. I
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guess I'm kind of looking at it
like these next five for me, will
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tell you if they're gonna have a
chance, not if they're gonna get there,
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but they're gonna have a chance.
I mean, even if you take
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out looking at the schedule, if
you take out the Rangers, which you
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know, I mean, yeah,
okay, their brings are really good.
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They're they're playing, they're playing at
a high level. But after that,
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I mean, if you don't get
if you don't get points in every one
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of these games, right, I
mean Montreal, Tampa, San Jose,
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Anaheim, Los Angeles, Like if
you're not if you don't get nine points
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there, and if they do that, you would think they would at least
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be in a spot then, right
they would catch they would catch Detroit,
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or they'd be right there with Detroit. Then I'll give them a chance,
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you know, because the schedule is
pretty tough. That look down down the
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stretch, looking at like three against
Toronto, like a Vegas Florida in there,
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it seem like they've got a lot
of they've got a lot of high
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level opponents. But yeah, this
for me, I'm not ready to declare
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them dead, but I certainly will
be ready to do that if you know,
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we're sitting here next or you know, the Thursday, March seventh,
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and they haven't picked up a bunch
of points. So that being said,
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where are you at where it comes? Like the trade deadline? You know,
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I've seen some teams, you know, make trades to try to get
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into the playoffs. Seen seems like
a Blue Jackets are probably the most famous
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example of this where they went all
in to make the playoffs, and that
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was the be Tampa I think it
was twenty nineteen. Do you think that
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losses and wins are impacting Tom Fitzjow's
decision making right now or do you think
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he's going in full steam ahead because
he wants guys with term. I don't
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know, and I wish I knew, Honestly, I just don't understand.
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I would think they would have they
would have made this deal already, Like
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it just seems it just seems like
a no brainer. Like even if you're
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even if you're you know, not
gonna make the playoffs this year, you
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can't have watched the first fifty five
games of this season and think oh we're
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okay Gold anywise, There's just no
way you could have reached that conclusion if
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you're a GM of like you know, and I'm not saying like I've given
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up on Vanishdeck. I think most
of the fans probably are. If they're
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not there, they should be there. You know. Even if you think
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Nico Dawes's he's got a got a
good upside, he might be the future,
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He's not a guy you're gonna play, you know, fifty games now,
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He's not gonna not ready for that
kind of work. Well you need
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a guy, so why not do
Why not make the move now with the
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eye on the future. I mean, it's honestly, I just don't understand
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why they haven't gotten Markstrom. He
would be my first choice. I understand,
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you know, if you've got a
different opinion on one of the other
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guys are available. But I it
feels like everything you read they're having conversations,
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having conversations, and maybe it's just
one of those you know, waiting
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for someone to blink. Look,
I don't know what the asking price is,
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but they the Devil certainly have all
the prospects, they need draft picks,
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like I don't, you know,
it just seems like they should have
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done this already. I'm kind of
surprised by it. And now we're at
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the point, like we talk about
it, if they have a bad you
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know, if they have a bad
couple, bad week here there, they
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could be eight points out and then
you're like, all right, well then
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you know, then forget it.
Yeah, So I just I wonder what's
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going on myself. I don't have
that answer, but I feel like,
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uh, he's waited too long.
Yeah, And I was kind of kind
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of ask you if you thought it's
been too long, and so you answered
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it already, and but I here's
what I think is happening. And Steve
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kind of like tell me if I'm
kind of just going off off base.
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A. I think the prices have
been crazy for goalies. I think like
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I think they're asking for like a
first plus for Jake Allen like things like,
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I think it's just insane. I
think the Columbus Blue Jackets are pretending
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it was murg Lincoln's has value instead
of the negative value that he actually is.
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And you know, and then obviously
I think the only reason that Saros
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season getting mentioned there is because they
want a piece like Nemets, and you
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know, obviously the Devils aren't going
to do that. So I but as
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far as Markstrom's concerned, I think
the Devils circled him earlier than other teams.
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They tried to jump on it.
But I think they try to get
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hand offf It in that deal too. And I think the Flames think they
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can get a pretty good haul for
hand off it, which is not wrong
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hand if it's probably the best defenseman
on the market. So the Devils try
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to do the two for one.
As it became clear that that was going
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to be too expensive, Markstrom's value
went through the roof. So if you
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try to make this traight in early
January, you could probably get march from
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for a second round, picking up
prospect. You know, maybe maybe a
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little bit more because he is term, But if you weren't asking them to
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retain it all, I think you
could have got it for maybe a first
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and then just call it a day. But I think it was a second
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round picking a good prospect. But
now you're looking at a first and a
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young NHL player, and maybe also
a prospect on top of it. So
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the value I think just went so
far past and I think that the they're
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gonna work out a deal, but
I think it's gonna Like you said,
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I think it might be too late. What do you think do you think
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that wouldn't mean the deal you just
described? Wouldn't you make that deal with
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the first a young NHL prospect but
Holts, I mean you would not,
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and then somebody in your farm system. You wouldn't make it for a goaltender
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At this point, I don't know. I just looked like I think there's
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no point. I think you can
get it for less in the off season,
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and I think there's some one doing
it at this point. I would
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to say in January, if you
ask me in January, when when you
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know they're coming out of the Christmas
break and you know there's still plenty of
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time to get back into this race, and a lot of teams that looked
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kind of fugazy. Yeah, like
I I then you're talking something different.
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But now it's just I don't know, but I you know. I heard
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Kevin Weeks on NHL Network today say
that the Devils are very intrigued by that
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playoff repetue because they made a lot
of money last year and losing that is
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going to, you know, something
that they don't want to do, and
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that's something we don't really talk about
a lot, right, It's not like
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we don't talk about the economics of
making the playoffs very often, but that
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I mean tum Fitzgerald I don't think
particularly cares about that, except for the
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fact that you know, Josh Harris
and the Harris Splitzer Sports Emporium cares about
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that. So now fittastic care about
that. So that might push a deal,
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right like the economics of sports sometimes
pushes trades through. Do you do
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you agree with that? I totally. I think that's a big factor of
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it. Yeah, I mean,
that's the amount of money the Devil's made
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in the old days. Having sixteen
or whatever the hell it was home dates
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in the playoffs. I mean,
that was that was that changes their you
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know, bottom line from a negative
to a pretty nice positive. And someone
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told me one point it was a
million dollars a game. I don't know
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if that's true, but whatever it
is, it's whatever it is ain't bad.
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So you look at it from that
standpoint, absolutely, But I think
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it's also just from the team,
you know, you want this team to
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have that take to continue to make
that progression, Like if you're looking at
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it, I mean, I think
it would be I don't know, devastating
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is not the right word, but
it would be detrimental to the growth of
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a lot of these young guys to
suddenly have this thing end on what is
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it now, April? You know
fifteenth have the season over that point.
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You know, think about how much
that team grew from those experiences at first
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coming back and beating the Rangers,
but then even lose them to the hurricane.
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You know, they saw what a
better playoff team look like. They
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they learned from that experience, you
know, and you forget that, like
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they're still talented enough that they could
go on a run and this doesn't have
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to be one thing and out.
I mean, the one thing you learned
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about this team is that they can
be they can go on streaks, and
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so that at times last year,
no reason to think that if they get
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it, it's not like you're just
it's not like you're just betting on it
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to get into it. I mean, once you get into it, I
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mean, I don't know, took
down the Rangers last year. If they're
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you know, they certainly proved they
can play with anybody. So yeah,
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I think there's a lot of reasons
for the final. Yeah, exactly right.
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So yeah, it's it's definitely something
the Devils can do. They just
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have to get hot, and they
have to get a better goalie or they
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or Nico Dawes has to become a
superman. Something crazy has to happen.
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Speaking of something crazy, tomorrow,
it's Devils Rangers, you know, and
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we talked about coming off a loss
last night. How big of a game
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is this for the Devils tomorrow night. Yeah, I think it's. I
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mean, again, like I don't
this is not to me the one that
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if they lose this game, it
sinks it. But if they win it
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then then I think it's it's become. It could be a pretty good moment
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for them, crystallized to remind them, just like I thought that was what
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happened with the Flyers, Like that
game was like a reminder to this team
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like hey, look look guys,
you know we're good hockey team. And
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of course the next tame they throw
it away. So like, I don't
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know if that that could happen again, I mean, they could go they
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could go beat the Flyers five to
one, and then you know, crap
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it away against Madrial. Who knows. I mean, it's just really a
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hard team to read sometimes with stuff
like that. But I mean we keep
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on looking for you know, keep
a looking for moments that'll that'll kind of
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give you, give you a sense
it might be at this point that you
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just need to have. It's got
to be a four or five game winning
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streak that will give you that sense. You know, it's maybe it's not
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just the one. You know,
we're not looking at something where they it's
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one game that'll do it. They
might need they might need to prove they
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can string three, four, five
in a row to kind of make levers
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out of avolves. Yeah. Yeah, and and I don't disagree there.
409
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I think that. But you just
laid out the schedule so if they win
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tomorrow night, they could very well
do this. You know, Montreal,
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I know Tampa's pretty good, but
Montreal, Tampa, Anaheim and Los Angeles,
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Yeah, Los Angeles and San Jose's
in there too, So it's like
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those are all games that not only
can you, you should win, you
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know, and you know, then
you come home to me like, I
415
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don't know what if you got you
like watching watching the outdoor game, like
416
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I kind of walked away like the
Flyers are no good, Like I didn't.
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I don't get the sense that they're
Like I get it, they're five
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they're five points up in the standings, but like, I don't even feel
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like you're chasing just Detroit, Like
I mean, I think that team is
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gonna it's gonna be uh struggling to
get to get in, get down the
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finish line and keep that playoff spot. So it's kind of like it's kind
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of like three teams for two spots
if you kind of look at it that
423
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way. I still I don't think
any he's going to catch the devils from
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behind. I get it that,
you know, maybe the Capitals look hot
425
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or the Islanders have got I mean, obviously with the goaltending there, they
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could, but for me, it's
that's that's kind of how it breaks down.
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So we'll see, Yeah, and
I'm kind of with you, especially
428
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with their goaltending situation. You know, like we everybody knows why Carter Heart's
429
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not there, but he's not coming
back. So you know, and Erson
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looked good for a lot of the
season, but he's kind of seems like
431
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he's hitting that rookie wall and they
don't really have a backup, right,
432
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so they I think, is it
still Peterson, is cal Peterson in their
433
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backup? I think either way it's
it's it's they're they're not good. And
434
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I don't think that's a team that
can be not good in net. You
435
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know, I don't think they have
the firepower. I think they have fine
436
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:48.599
defensemen, but not great defensemen.
So I do think that they're vulnerable and
437
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.799
I think that that you know,
five points are not you know, we
438
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talked about the Panthers earlier. They
the Panthers were more than five points out
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at that you know, later than
this, you know, you kind of
440
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:03.519
need to luck in the in the
you know, they're they're getting their guys
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back. Seeking Thal came back last
game and he was kind of one of
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the last few injuries that is actually
coming back. Obviously Hamilton is not coming
443
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back. But I do think that
this team has playoff potential. They just
444
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need to get consistent. Yeah,
yeah, and and part and it consistent
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and then I want to see what
I'm interested in seeing against the Rangers,
446
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.400
Like is Jack Hughes going to throw
this team on his back for a stretch,
447
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.799
and I get it, Like I
saw the stat on TV fastest to
448
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fifty points. I understand he's coming
back from injuries. It's it's not been
449
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an easy season for him, but
that's what stars do. And someone told
450
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:45.599
me, I can't remember who said
it, but people pay to watch him.
451
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.200
I've read that somewhere, right,
I mean, this is the time
452
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if you're said, nobody said it. I don't know. I don't know
453
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who said it. Sounds familiar,
but this is the time, right,
454
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this is the time for him to
kind of to be the dude. Yeah,
455
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:06.319
he's always come back slow from injuries. It took him ten games last
456
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.559
year. Even in that great game
with great stretch last year, it still
457
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.240
took him ten games. Like look
like himself. He can't. We don't.
458
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They don't have it that much time
this time. I don't have because
459
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.359
it took him ten games to look
like himself from the last injury earlier in
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this season. They don't have it
this time. So he does have to
461
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:25.000
kind of pull a superman move and
put this team on his back. But
462
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:26.440
Steve, you know we're at time. I you know, I don't want
463
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to keep you longer than we said
we would. But I do want to
464
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.519
give you just a couple of minutes
just to promote what you got going on,
465
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.519
promote the stadium, serious piece that
I absolutely loved, and everything else
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00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.759
you're doing for ENJ dot com.
Yeah, I get nothing. No,
467
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.119
I mean, I know, I
appreciate that. It's really nice to say.
468
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:47.000
The one thing I will promote my
dude Novo. If I can promote
469
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somebody who's just who's just been a
kick ass beat writer. If you haven't
470
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.039
subscribed to NJ dot com for him
yet, then I don't know what you're
471
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:57.720
waiting for. No. No,
he's great, and he's put up with
472
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.559
me. I mean, it's funny
sit in the in the press box and
473
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.039
you know some of the some of
the questions I asked him, just because
474
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.799
you know, I have to paying
attention, or it's a great moment.
475
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.240
He'll tell the story. I'm sitting
and we're sitting in there, and you
476
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:11.920
were in the press box like it's
so far up above, you know,
477
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.440
like the ice. Really you didn't
feel like you were there. I would
478
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.799
have wished we could have gone in
the crowd and watched. At one point,
479
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.000
I look out there and I'm like, wait, there's a dog.
480
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.599
What's the dog doing out there?
Like there's a stroller and no one had
481
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:27.960
to explain to me. No.
See, that's like a little park area
482
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:33.279
that. It's like he's talking to
Grandpa about explaining to explain to me what's
483
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.160
happening on the field down there.
I'm like, oh, yeah, you're
484
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:37.519
right, there's a little park here. I see what's going on. There's
485
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:44.079
several dogs. Okay, he's just
don't understand that. But I feel like
486
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.039
i'm talking. I'm like trying to
like somebody's trying to explain TikTok to me
487
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:52.480
every time I talk to Novo.
So it's right, that person in your
488
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:57.440
life, that's in my life.
That's Novos. What's the new social media
489
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:03.279
kiddos, Yeah, that's that's me. Kids. Do it now? Hello,
490
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.640
fellow kids, I'm walking up with
uh Steve. I really appreciate you
491
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.279
taking some time with us. This
has been a lot of fun. Uh
492
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.200
Stave series is great, and again
go read his piece. You should.
493
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.400
We've talked Novo up enough for you
to be subscribed to jy dot com right
494
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:21.400
now. But if you're not this
piece alone, well it's worth it.
495
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.640
Go pay the money, Go support
local journalism. Go read Steve Pali's piece.
496
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:27.079
But Steve, thank you so much
for spending some time with us tonight.
497
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.200
Anytime, guys, let's do it
good. Have to make the playoffs.
498
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.240
All thanks, Let's do it.
Thanks, thanks, thank thanks.
499
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:41.559
The kicker that is Steve Paliti NJ
dot com Star Ledger. I liked him
500
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.759
on the Star Ledger versus J dot
Com back in the day. No,
501
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.960
I'm just kidding. It's the same
thing, isn't it. I'm pretty sure.
502
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.640
Yeah, well I used yeah.
I mean, I remember it was
503
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.039
kind of funny, like sorry to
mean to cut you off, But like
504
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.319
I remember, growing up, I
was an Arasberry Park Press kid, right,
505
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:01.839
that was that was the newspaper of
note. But every time you want
506
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:06.240
sports, you do start legric because
that was very Park Press. It's very
507
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.559
local like Jersey short short conference sports
and stuff like that. But if you
508
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:12.559
want to like, you know,
I want to read about the Devils,
509
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.519
I want to read about you know. I was curs. I wasn't a
510
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:15.960
Giants Jets fan, but I was
curious about the Giants and the Jets.
511
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:19.880
I want to read about the Yankees. I was curious about the Mets,
512
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.960
so you know, would grab the
sports section and just read it all.
513
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.519
But you know whatnot like everything looked
interesting to me, and you know that's
514
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:29.920
how I that's how I was as
a kid. And you know it's just
515
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.480
like a it's a different feeling.
But then when you know, I'm sure
516
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:37.759
I've read dozens, if not hundreds
of times it's Steve Is written and you
517
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.119
know all of them. You know, you read Larry Brooks for so long.
518
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:44.240
He's he's got you know, a
friend of the podcast, and all
519
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.960
these guys that Stan Fisher, I
mean, we've read I don't even know
520
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.720
I've listened to a lot of Stan. I don't know how much I've read.
521
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.920
I know I've read plenty. But
you listen to Stan and just hearing
522
00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:00.799
him talk kind of that iconic voice, you know, and it was just
523
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.079
it was good, you know,
the just being around those guys because it
524
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.759
was it was interesting. You had
the guys like Novo, You had the
525
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.680
Ryanovasinsky, and you have the guys
like James Nichols who are new to the
526
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.559
beat, not new, but like
relatively like to these other guys. And
527
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.880
you know, you had Greg Washinsky
who's hanging around and he's been around He's
528
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.119
always around Devil's Hockey, but he's
been a national guy for gosh, when
529
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:29.680
what did puck Daddy come out?
Is that twenty years now? Oh boy,
530
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.240
it's got to be right, He's
it's got to be twenty years since
531
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:39.079
he's been in the public eye for
around that time the New NH. I
532
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:43.000
think he was reporting of the lockout
or not reporting. He was like talking
533
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.680
about the lockout. I think so, but uh, you know, and
534
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.680
it was cool. It was cool. It was like and again, like,
535
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:52.759
I'm not a celebrity guy. I'm
usually not intimidated by people. It
536
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.680
was in news for a long time. I've talked to big, big people
537
00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:01.960
in in in movies and sports and
politics, and it's never really like intimidated
538
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.720
me. But that's because, like
it was always my job to be a
539
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.840
journalist, right I was. They
knew I was there for a reason,
540
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.519
and then you know, they had
a reason to be there. I had
541
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:15.280
a reason to be there. This
one felt a little weird though, Like
542
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.639
I didn't I didn't feel intimidated by
the players, which is weird because you
543
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.440
walk in the locker room. I'm
not a short guy, Sam, like
544
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.800
you see me like I'm about six
y one. You know, I'm somewhere
545
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:29.039
between six foot and six one.
Like I'm not a tiny person. But
546
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.679
you walk in the locker room and
like Simonemetz is nineteen years old, and
547
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.719
I'm like, hi, can I
ask you a couple of questions? And
548
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.440
then honestly, like you always make
yourself Like I always end up making myself
549
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:43.679
look like an idiot when I do
it for the devils because I'm like,
550
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.480
just like, all right, like
you need to like make an impression because
551
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.000
you know, I'm representing a lot
of writers. You know, Dan Rice
552
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:52.400
is in the locker room. You
know, I've always had pucks and pitchforks
553
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.079
guys in the locker room. So
it's like, all right, you overthink
554
00:34:55.119 --> 00:35:01.639
it a little bit, and I
I ask some shimone a question about I
555
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:05.199
was like, does this feel like
World Juniors? Like you've been spect Us
556
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.199
before? And he just looks at
me and goes, this one was outside.
557
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.880
I was like, thanks, thanks, Shamoon, and I'm gonna go.
558
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.559
I said that. I was like, all right, thanks your good
559
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.800
I'm gonna go. Because I was
like, all right, like you're reaching
560
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.239
for something because you always want to
ask an interesting question, something that stands
561
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.639
out, something that's kind of like
different, something that'll give you a story.
562
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.559
And again he was very courteous.
He's a nice guy kid, but
563
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.039
he just like looked at me was
like, well this one was outside,
564
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:35.199
and that's when you know, you're
kind of like all right, like thanks,
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00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.719
Shamon, appreciate it. Have a
nice night. You had a good
566
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:42.239
night. But I talked to Halla
Halla Halla gave. I shared the I
567
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:49.000
shared his answer on Twitter on the
Pucks and Pitchforks feed where he talked about
568
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.440
the message he sent about playing an
outdoor game. Because Hollow is one of
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00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:54.239
three players played an outdoor game.
I wanted to talk to to Foley,
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00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.159
but he wasn't in the locker room, so I think I didn't get a
571
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:59.639
chance to talk to him. But
to Folly, did you know this that
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00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.440
when he scored, he now had
he's tied with David Pasternach for the most
573
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.800
outdoor goals or most goals in outdoor
games in the history of the league.
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00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:17.119
That's crazy. Yeah, So had
a lot of really good a lot of
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00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:22.199
really good history with outdoor games.
You know, he scored that hat trick
576
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.480
when he was with LA so he's
he's a guy who's you know, always
577
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:30.000
stepped up in these in these situations. The other guy, I think it
578
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.519
was Brendan Smith who had an outdoor
game. I think it was with the
579
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.599
Rangers. I'm not one hundred percent
sure, but I think, you know,
580
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.679
he had an outdoor game and he
scored a goal. So all the
581
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.800
guys from the outdoor games had the
game of their life. They had that
582
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.320
experience and uh, they really like
stepped up. And then Lendy Rough obviously
583
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.679
was the coach of Buffalo when they
were at the Winner Classic and was that
584
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:55.119
oh nine eight? It was o
wait, so he was the first Winner
585
00:36:55.119 --> 00:37:00.880
Classic? Yes, okay, okay, all right. I I just something
586
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.159
in my head said that that can't
be true that he was the coach of
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00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.400
the first Winning Classic, but he
was. So the first Winter Classic,
588
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.840
Lindy Ruff was the coach. So
obviously a long time ago. But outdoor
589
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:13.840
game is outdoor game. Lindy Ruff
has that experience and so great experience.
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00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.719
Overall, we had a ton of
fun with the with the tailgate. I
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00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:20.280
want to thank you Sam for putting
all the work in to make sure that
592
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.440
that we, you know, we
put on a good show. You know,
593
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.079
we come in, we try to
have fun, but it's always you
594
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:29.400
putting together stuff. So I want
to thank you live on air for everybody,
595
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.000
and everybody should should thank Sam because
it was so much fun to get
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00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:37.280
everybody together, to get Chico,
to get Novo, to get James Nichols,
597
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.800
to get Sam Cassan of the New
Jersey Devils came and spoke to us,
598
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.559
and to get our let like it
was a really great lineup. It
599
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:46.199
was a really good collaboration. It
was the first time that you know,
600
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:52.280
Vinnie Perez has been working for me
for seven years, Sam, seven years,
601
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:53.440
Vinnie Priezy has been working for me, and that was the first time
602
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:58.320
I met him in person. It
was the first time we got Scottie and
603
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:04.880
Vinnie together with the with you,
me uh Short Sky and Beer Barron and
604
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.079
that's these are the stories that we
got from this. You know, this
605
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:13.760
event brought people together. It brought
Devils fans together. There was no drama.
606
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.960
There was no complaints about the coach, complains about the defense comlaiins about
607
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.639
that, oh a, complaints about
that cues, complaints about the power play
608
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:22.719
like, none of that. It
was all collaboration. It was all good
609
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.639
time, It was all fun.
I loved every second of it. I
610
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.840
did too. You know what,
during your interview with Steve, he was
611
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:38.320
talking about, you know, the
tail yate that and even with Shoulski even
612
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:43.039
alluded to that. It's, you
know, kind of in our DNA and
613
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:49.280
I think you wrote that on Pucks
and pitchforks dot com that do you know
614
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:53.239
how seamless that was that tailgate Because
a lot of my friends were there.
615
00:38:54.119 --> 00:39:01.519
It's as I like, what I
mean by seamless is you know, going
616
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:07.280
into this tailgate, we were so
experienced because of the past that it was
617
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.480
just like it was like not a
problem. You know. You know what
618
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:14.599
he did. He has a little
trick of putting the tent down. He
619
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:19.320
actually screwed it into the asphalt like
that. Stuff like, yeah, don't
620
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:23.159
tell sh don't tell met life that. Ah. Let them let him suffer
621
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:29.239
one of the after what they did
to us with that M two parking lot,
622
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.920
which I'm still griping about. Did
you hear what happened to the Rangers
623
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:37.440
fan? It was on the New
York Post and for the outdoor game for
624
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:45.480
the Rangers Islanders, he bought eight
tickets eight tickets and somehow those tickets were
625
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:53.239
used by somebody else and MetLife Stadium
did nothing, absolutely nothing other than well
626
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:59.679
you can go get a refund.
And I'm I'm thinking to myself, Okay,
627
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:07.159
that's the way MetLife Stadium and the
NNGSCA. That's the way they treated
628
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.960
us when we were at Brendan Byrne
and Continental. It's the same. I
629
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.079
gotta tell you what those Yeah,
I think that's a stadium policy in a
630
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:19.920
lot of places, because that happened
to my wife. She got tickets to
631
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.840
Britney Spears and they were fake.
I don't know if they were fake or
632
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.639
they were doubles. I think the
same thing happened where somebody had already scanned
633
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:28.960
up so they told them to multiple
people and only the first person who bought
634
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:30.199
them got them. She got her
money back, but she can go,
635
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:36.079
well, he bought it directly through
Ticketmaster. That's what the article said,
636
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:43.000
So there was something to that effect. Yeah. So and they did nothing
637
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.679
and they were heartless, and it's
like, well, I felt, and
638
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:52.519
I still feel this way that the
Devil's existence from nineteen eighty two to two
639
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:57.400
thousand and seven, they were all
road games because we always had a problem
640
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:04.239
with NCA security because they hired a
union from New York and they were all
641
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.599
Rangeer fans like it was a disaster
at times, Like I could go on
642
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:15.800
and on and on in stories how
bad it was the Metallands from that perspective.
643
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:21.159
Now, I don't want to spoil
a good time and rehash the pass,
644
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.599
but that stuff doesn't even surprise me, like you're on your own,
645
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:32.599
Like there were times even before before
I think the period of time between two
646
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:38.840
thousand and four to two thousand and
seven it was a bad divorce between the
647
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:44.440
Devils and the NJSCA because the Devils
were leaving to New York the way they
648
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:52.199
treated the fans, and I actually
was reminiscing with someone about this today.
649
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.760
The Metal Lands was such a different
world where if the United Nations went in
650
00:41:55.800 --> 00:42:02.800
there and saw what they were doing, they'd be shocked successive. But okay,
651
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:06.840
no, no, no, no, if you want, I can
652
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.320
tell you stories, but you know, and a lot of people would agree
653
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:13.320
with me, A lot of people
would agree with me. But anyway,
654
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:15.519
but it was a good time.
It was a good time. We got
655
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:20.880
through it. But the point I'm
trying to make is We have it so
656
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:25.559
good right now at Prudential Center,
even though I've missed the tailgaming aspect of
657
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:30.159
it. We have. It's so
good at the Potential Center because they actually
658
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:35.519
welcome you, you know, into
the building. So that's all I have
659
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:45.679
to say for sure. And yeah, people complain about the Prudential Center of
660
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.280
the Rock. I really like the
Rock. I like where it is.
661
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:53.519
It's just missing that tailgate experience.
And honestly, if they did something once
662
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.519
a year and I wrote about this, I wrote about this, do a
663
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:02.000
tailgate experience once a year. Yeah, Sam, you're the only other person
664
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.440
here, Sam, you could talk. I'm going to interrupt you on that
665
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:07.679
you read. First of all,
did you read my article about it?
666
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:12.599
Yes? I did. I actually
read. That's only the only article I
667
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:17.880
read all week, But that's I
read. But there is a way of
668
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:24.159
doing it, though, because I
had a friend and I'll call him that
669
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.239
knows one of the lot owners.
I don't know if there's still the lot
670
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:34.880
owners and one of the lots outside
of out of, outside of Prudential Center.
671
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.920
There is a way to pull off
a tailgate, but it's going to
672
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:45.159
take a huge collaboration of many fans
to do to get it done. Maybe
673
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:51.159
we should take the leader on it, the Devil should do it. Oh
674
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.880
screw that. No, no,
here's why, here's why. Here's why.
675
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.559
Here's why. All right. Well, well, if you want to
676
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.159
do it the Rock, if you
want to like take over one of those
677
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:02.840
parking lots to do it, They're
like, that's fine. Like that could
678
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.360
be fan lad, that could be
us lad. That could beat simple.
679
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:14.599
I want you to fight, like
to go to the Meadowlands, rent out
680
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:19.039
their parking lot for a night and
have all the Devil's fans do that exact
681
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.840
tailgate experience and then have the Devil's
fans bust to the arena. I know
682
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:28.199
it's not gonna be the same,
but what's what's the bust to from East
683
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:37.039
Rother for nork in rush? Kidding
me? But yeah, I mean it
684
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.599
would be after rush hour, right, Maybe do like an eight o'clock start,
685
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.159
try to like, you know,
to get away from that. Nick.
686
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:52.079
I could tell you never went to
the arena, the old Arena back
687
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:53.719
in the day too often. I
mean I did. It was like nine
688
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.880
yeah, no, no, no, no, Nick, that would that
689
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.159
could take hours unless you at a
police escort. That would take hours.
690
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:05.719
I used to get stuck on Ruth
three for like an hour and a half.
691
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:10.760
Like I would I would. I
would actually leave my home on a
692
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:16.679
Friday afternoon around three o'clock. And
there were times where I didn't get there
693
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:22.679
till puck drop, you know,
to the metal lands. But I'll tell
694
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.920
you. But there's that what there's
that one good parking lot again, like
695
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.239
these are all owned by different entities
though right they're not owned by Crudential Center
696
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:37.000
or the Harris The key is from
what I remember, my friend tried to
697
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.480
pull it off, Fred, Fred
tried to pull it off. I think
698
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:46.360
it's something with if you can get
enough fans to pull up enough money to
699
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:51.280
get that insurance for that one day, they would be willing to do it.
700
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:54.880
But again I have to I'd have
to talk a couple of grands,
701
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:59.280
tens of thousands, like where were
we looking? Well, instead of paying
702
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:01.480
like thirty dollar park, you may
have to pay forty or something like that.
703
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:06.719
You know, Yeah, it's it's
it's nothing bad. It's just I
704
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:08.880
have to ask Fred because he had
this whole idea and I was all for
705
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.800
it. It just never came into
fruition. It would be great if we
706
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.239
had our own you know, if
we had our own tailgate, you know,
707
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:19.280
the podcast Join our Crew dot com. You know, we'll plug it
708
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.320
that way and and just like for
one game, one game, we'll get
709
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:29.480
group tickets inside, so make the
Devil's happy, right, We'll figure out
710
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:34.000
how to do the parking. Now
in terms of like you know, the
711
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.079
drinking and the parking lot all that
kind of stuff. I don't know how
712
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.639
that's gonna go, how that's gonna
fly, but you know, that would
713
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.920
be kind of cool to do.
And of course we could do it in
714
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.519
the middle of parking lot, because
we did it in the middle of parking
715
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:50.320
lot. Yeah, at the Metal
Lands. I mean, that would be
716
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.159
kind of cool to do. You
had a lot or issues a signal at
717
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:58.519
the Metal Lands and you would and
middle of arc oh yeah, the the
718
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:04.360
well, there's more people at at
in that in that vicinity at the met
719
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.519
Life. I mean you're talking about
let's say, eighty thousand people in that
720
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:14.559
one little versus you know, I
mean you're talking maybe forty thousand at most.
721
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:17.400
Plus you have City Hall New Yeah, that's you know, it's pretty
722
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.679
yeah, I mean it's still probably
yeah. I mean if you yeah,
723
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.599
maybe but you know a lot of
people are a lot of those people are
724
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.440
connected to their personal Wi fis right, you know, so they're if they're
725
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.440
just sitting at home, you know
their phones are gonna be connected to Wi
726
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:37.320
Fi. So, but yeah,
I mean forty thousand, maybe it's a
727
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:39.679
safe number. But again it's you
know, you're right, it's not even
728
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:45.280
close, like it's almost it's half. Yeah. I just think it's something
729
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:52.000
like again, I I the traffic. You're right, but again we're also
730
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:53.559
kind of what if we do with
this on a Saturday, Like you don't
731
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:57.840
think you think traffic on a Saturday, It's still just be impossible. Wait,
732
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:00.400
it doesn't make sense. So you
want to do a tailiate at the
733
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:14.360
Metal Lands? Uh huh and then
bust over correct. I don't know,
734
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:19.199
Nick, I'm not I'm not feeling
it. I'm just it's just a once
735
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.880
a year type of thing, right, It's like a specialty event trying to
736
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:27.320
like bring the nostalgia. They just
need to make the parking lot work once
737
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:30.039
a year, like this should be
a once a year thing. The feeling
738
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.079
we had this week, if anything, can't they put ice down at Continental
739
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:40.199
we're at the arena. Well,
that. Now we're talking about tens,
740
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:44.960
if not hundreds of thousands of dollars
to get ice down on an arena for
741
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.000
you know, one day, And
I don't know if you're gonna get that
742
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:51.079
if you're gonna do it at Continental? Right with that was what was Continental?
743
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:55.880
Was that eighteen seventeen, eighteen nineteen
and forty It's done on person nineteen.
744
00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:01.719
Okay, so you're just not going
to get the return, but what
745
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:07.920
you're going to get is, you
know, I just think a parking lot
746
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.599
experience of some kind, if you
can make it, why why the metal
747
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.960
is? Why can't you do it
in New York? You could definitely do
748
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.320
it in no Ark. That's the
point I was trying to make. The
749
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:20.920
walk just doesn't feel the same?
Am I crazy? Wait? What's something?
750
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.559
Just felt different? Like like I've
been to a parking lot experience in
751
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:30.519
Nork and it just felt very I
don't know if it was rushed or if
752
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.320
I didn't. It just didn't feel
like, I don't know, I didn't
753
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.360
feel like a tailgate. You know, I've been too many tailgates in my
754
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:43.679
day, and it just didn't feel
the same. What I what I saw
755
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:47.079
on Saturday felt like a tailgate.
It felt like West Virginia University. It
756
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:51.000
felt like you know when when I
used to go to the tailgates in Tampa
757
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.880
for the Bucks games, and it
felt like that. Well, because you've
758
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:59.719
got the bar, like I mean, it's I don't know, Nick,
759
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.440
I think, look, I think
we should run out one parking lot for
760
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.440
one game and try it out.
Try it out. We you know,
761
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:12.039
our fans showed up at our tailgate, you know, put it out there
762
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.920
and be like, look, we're
going to do a tail yate, bring
763
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:19.119
your car whatever, have it a
Saturday night game. We all get that.
764
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.639
Oh we're not going to have like
you know, that's six hours prior
765
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:28.760
to the you know that bs of
a waiting in line to get in,
766
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:34.079
like you know, come in a
noontime set up, have fun, people
767
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:40.920
come and go. That'd be great. Can I say one thing that's probably
768
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:49.800
gonna make you upset? What's that? So the NHL did mismanage some of
769
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:53.599
the timing of it. Very appreciative
for my credential, but they told me
770
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:58.360
I couldn't get into the parking lot
until five when in reality I could have
771
00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:05.119
gotten the parking lot like six am. So it wouldn't matter like that that
772
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.119
thing was such a mess because you
know, I mean, well, that's
773
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:14.440
true. We would have we would
have go ahead, we would have prepared
774
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:20.440
an m and they would have moved
us at the same time. Yeah,
775
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:24.119
well, I mean getting back to
that. First off, that Metal Land
776
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:29.800
security guy that came to us was
awesome. He was very transparent. Yeah,
777
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.159
every he was very transparent, even
though I just like, you know,
778
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:37.119
bitched about the past before. Uh, he was very nice. He
779
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:40.000
let me listen in to what his
boss was telling him over the radio,
780
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:46.119
which you know, was was very
thoughtful. You know, I didn't think
781
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:52.239
it was necessary for them to be
zoned in on a bunch of Devils fans
782
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:57.599
from the top of MetLife Stadium with
binoculars. I think that was a little
783
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:01.440
excessive. But you know, all
they could have done is say, look,
784
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:06.079
did you pay, which we did. We prepaid. You know,
785
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:10.280
they could have scanned it and just
let us find another parking space and just
786
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:15.440
wait. But instead, instead they
gave me ten minutes or else. You
787
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:21.159
know, you're trespassing. You know, it's like that's just completely not necessary,
788
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:23.599
you know, Yeah, and why
don't you treat me like a human
789
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:28.320
being? Instead of getting in your
high horse. But that's the boss.
790
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.480
That wasn't the guy that we met, and you know, we were escorted
791
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:37.039
out and back in line, and
you know it was again it's just again,
792
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:42.239
it's just like what that Rangers fans
said in that article left a bat
793
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.679
really bad taste in your mouth.
The way they conduct business there. And
794
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:52.000
that's why I'm very appreciative a Crudential
Center and the employees there, because they
795
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.960
treat us like family there, you
know, for the most part. Yeah,
796
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:58.920
yeah, I mean it's hard to
get what we got in NARC so
797
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.360
I uh, but I think one
hand didn't know what the other hand was
798
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:07.960
doing when it came to met Life
and and the NHL. So I'm not
799
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:12.400
going to point fingers who's screwed up
there. But you know, at the
800
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:17.480
same time, you know, it's
just it's not that hard as people.
801
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.360
I only I again, I come
out of this with only nice things to
802
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:25.320
say about the entire experience. Great
time. I'm well, you didn't have
803
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:29.280
to break down, you know,
break down, and you know, and
804
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:34.840
only given ten minutes, you know
that I have to pump back an uber
805
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:38.679
in the line and I'm through the
cars to try to get to you.
806
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:44.079
So you know, I I I'm
not saying I'm we are the same,
807
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:45.840
but I I you know I did, I did try to do my part.
808
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:52.000
But my last thoughts, Sam,
you know I'm a little different than
809
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:59.119
Steve in in how I look at
tomorrow's game. Yep, I do think
810
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:01.559
they have to win this game,
just because I think it's gonna be such
811
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:08.039
so deflating if you lose that game
too, and then you go into the
812
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stretch with like Wor's opponents. But
I get it. The Rangers are good
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and they're on what are they on? A seven game or eight? They're
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an eight game win streak, But
you gotta go in there to win.
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Ah, before we go, do
you think they're gonna start? I'm gonna
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say the name is it Poultaire,
Poltier, Isaac Poltier, Poltier, I
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I don't know Pultaire. Let's call
him Isaac Isaac. Are they gonna start
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Isaac or Nico? That's a good
question. I think you gotta go with
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Nico. You gotta go with Nico. Our friend Josh from his last name
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is escaping me, Josh from the
Hockey Raiders. Yeah, Josh Rennets.
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Maybe a point on Twitter that sometimes
you get these young goalies in there and
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they just don't understand the brevity of
the moment and that makes them play better.
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So you know, shout out to
Josh. But I do think that
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that's a possibility that you know,
they can they can look at the situation
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and just say, hey, listen, like I I go go kid,
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like, just see what happens.
Like this is a kid that got his
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you know, his dreams have been
answered. He's he has a h an
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NHL deal that he might have he
might not thought of had. Sorry,
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brain just like scrambled. He might
not have thought that he'd ever had an
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NHL deal. Now he's an NHL
deal and he's in the NHL. You
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know, he's getting that NHL money
for a couple of days, and you
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know he's he's earned it. He's
been the best player in Utica, even
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better than I mean, DAWs is
pretty good, but both both. Isaac
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was was really good and he's been
consistent. And that's a Yutica team that's
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just been pretty kind of bad defensively, and you know he's Isaac's been pretty
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good and you know, now you
get the NHL shot, do I think
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that he's going to be like this
long term fix. No. But I'll
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tell you what, Sam. In
a couple of weeks, I'm doing my
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top twenty five prospects, and he's
going to be on it because he's still
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eligible. Because my eligibility is twenty
four. Is under twenty four, and
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I think he's twenty three. He's
gonna be on the list. I still
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think Dogs is the guy. I
think Dodgs is the guy that you look
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at like this is the future.
I said it, I didn't get it.
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I gave up my mic for Chico. I wanted to kind of pat
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myself on the back, but I
figured that wasn't good good. Sorry,
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I almost use the word you hate. It wasn't good radio to pat myself
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on the back when I when we
have Chico resh here. But I really
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wanted to do it because I did
call that. I thought Nico Doggs was
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going to be the starter by I
think the season, and I did that
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to Chico. So I wanted to
see if you remembered it. But there's
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talk today. I it just seems
like this, this Markstroom deal is gonna
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happen. I really, I just
think it's gonna happen, and I'm gonna
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tell you, Sam, I don't
think it's gonna include Vanitcheck. I think
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your I think your tandem is gonna
be Vanitcheck. Here's one of the two
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things that's gonna happen if they don't
trade Vanitcheck, which I don't think they're
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going to. I don't think the
Flames want that, and I can't blame
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them. I think you're gonna have
Markstrom and then either Vanachick is the backup
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or Vanacheck is now done for the
season. He's gonna get surgery and one
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of the ailments that he has that's
hurt him this year, and Dodge is
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the backup for the rest of the
year. I think one of those two
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things is gonna happen. I do
think the Markstrom deal is gonna go down.
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I think it's good for the Devils. I think marks From is a
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good goal He's older, I get
it, but he's only really one bad
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season. And we've seen some goalies, you know, You've seen Flurry have
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that one off season and then play
well for three and then have one off
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then play well for four and then
you know. So, I think Markstrom's
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young enough that he can be good
for the time you need him to be
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good. If you think Dogs is
the real deal, Dolls are still what
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I think was twenty two or twenty
three, twenty three. He's young,
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you know, so he's got plenty
of time. If you get Mark Strom,
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00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:30.679
he's your starter for two and a
half years and then Dogs could take
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00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:35.239
over after that. Or you keep
drafting goalies and it's Malik, or it's
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00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.440
Schmidt, or it's you know,
it's Tyler Brennan, this kid who's inn
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00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:44.639
Adirondak, who they used to have
high out for. And there's a lot
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00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.800
going on here, Sam. But
I do think the Devils are in a
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better spot. And I wrote about
this. I don't remember if it read
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before last week's podcast, but I
did write it last week. I do
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think that Tom Fitzgerald took back the
momentum. I do think he has the
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leverage again and think that he is
going to I think the deal is going
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to surprise a lot of people,
especially the fans of the team that's given
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up on the goalie. Can I
say one thing, I know we're over,
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but are you surprised that the Gibson
chatter just disappeared? I just never
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00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:28.960
thought he was realistic because you think
the price is too high, price is
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too high. Yeah, you know, I don't think he's good enough to
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00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:36.800
have that price. And I think
yeah, and plus the salary cap everything,
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you know, it's all the above, because he's got what he's got
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three more years after this one.
Yeah, And that's the question. That's
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not that's not questioning his ability.
That's just the economics behind it. How
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00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:52.719
much you have to give up,
which is an unrealistic you know amount,
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00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:59.000
plus what you're getting in return in
terms of salary cap, years, commitment,
891
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:01.239
all that kind of stuff. What
if it doesn't work out, you
892
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:07.239
lose badly. It's it's it's it's
too too rescue you a deal for for
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01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:12.800
uh Tom Fitzgerald. And even if
he was lights out after he would have
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01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:19.360
to make that deal. Still it's
too too big of a price to pay.
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01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:24.960
Yeah, I agree, But that's
all I got saying, okay you
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01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:32.719
yeah. Bucks and pitt tricks dot
com. Uh, the other Nick just
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01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:37.480
wrote a piece on buckspitch tricks dot
Com. He he talked about who the
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01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:39.760
Devil's could play in the next Stadium
series and where it might be. So
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01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:45.800
that was a fun one. UH. We talked about Jersey Joe talked about
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01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:52.039
how Nico does his ascension should save
Alex Holtz in any trade. I talked
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01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:58.360
about some former stud prospects that the
Devil should be going after the UH think
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01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.079
about like Coppo Coco, but he
is not on the list just because of
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01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.800
these Rangers player. But like these
these stud prospects that are on on the
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01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.679
block that I think the Devils could
turn into something really good. Vinnie Ferezi
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01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:13.000
talked about the you know scar coming
back. Marcy Rubin talked about how Nico
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01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:16.880
Dodgs is now the starter moving forward. David Holliday talked about two trades that
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01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:22.760
would actually move the needle to get
the Nashville to move. U say sorrows.
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01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:28.039
I talked about how we talked about
the al tortailgate. I really liked
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01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:30.559
that al To ortailgate story. I
thought that was a really good one.
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01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:35.159
And then Madison Hutchinson new writer for
Puckspitt Triocks dot com. She wrote about
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01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:39.239
some key takeaways from the Stadium series. Juliana Long another new writer for Pucksinpitt
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01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:44.400
Trucks dot Com, she wrote about
how nikohsher shows the impact of a true
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01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:50.800
captain. Yeah, so that's where
all end. There's a we write every
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day, folks. You have new
content every single day. You should be
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01:01:53.840 --> 01:02:00.599
able to read for hours on pucksanpitchforks
dot com. Sorry sorry, new new
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articles every single day. Oh perfect, just not the S word. Sorry,
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that's okay. Max super Chat fan
fest in playoffs felt like to tell
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you do that, and also Ronaldo, thank you for the super Chat.
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One thing I gotta plug is I'll
be American whiskey tomorrow for the Devil's Rangers
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game. Ranger Suck Fortune Cookie Night
again. I'm gonna bring all these Rangers
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Suck fortune cookies. I'm probably gonna
be behind the bar talking a little trash
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01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:42.920
to Rangers fans. Hey, I'm
alone beer Barren and Shorts guy won't be
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there, Vinnie's gonna be in virtually, I'll be all by myself. I'm
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gonna have Alejandro protect me. She
had a bartender, Yes, she had
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the same one. Like I don't
know, I'm not good at names,
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but she's been there for a while. Yeah, that's Steve Engel. All
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your all he ever does is ask
for all in the in the in the
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chats. I'm not gonna comment on
that same yeah, okay, anyway,
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we're excited, though, Yeah,
we are excited, and hopefully it's gonna
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be Devil's victory. But alright,
al all right, we're gonna get out
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of here. Thank you all those
tuning in dropping the podcast at midnight,
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Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music Prime, Audible, iHeart
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01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:43.599
App, wherever you get our podcasts. Thank you, Nick, Thank you
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to everybody. Till next time,
let's go doubles