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I'm going to hit the record.
We're lying. We have to do it.
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Okay, lady, lady girls,
girls, girls, here are We've
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gathered here together on this a lady
Monday to talk about a lady movie.
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Now that you're hearing this on a
Monday, No, this is just the
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day that I don't know if this
is coming out terrific lady day between terrific
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and God when this comes out.
So first, let us cheer welcome.
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Oh yeah, we did this a
little different and I totally forgot the script,
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but there is not Hi, guys, hey, welcome to an episode
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of Let's get drunk and talk about
your wedding on Terrific Cheers. Before we
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did it in reverse and I totally
forgot. We got excited. I forgot
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to think everything about my whole life. We're just wild in yeah, so
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wild wild make the whole brain go
like yeah, I'm just like I just
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started talking and then I was like, we missed something. Yeah what happened?
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I was like, we are away
something here. It's not my business.
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Anna has got it right. This
is our friend Anna. You remember
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Anna from great podcasts like where we
talked about a different movie. I can't
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remember it was, guys. I
can't believe you forgot this amazing movie where
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it didn't even get a US release
because it was so bad. It had
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Colin Firth and oh my god,
the wedding one obviously, yeah, the
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Colin Calin gosh, I forgot all
of it. I actually don't remember it.
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I do sort of remember the Colin
Firth of it all. I just
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remember I didn't get a US release. I just remember thinking that, holy
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shit, how did he do this
movie? I remember thinking it ruined Uma
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Thurman's career for Wild because because she
is trying to revenge with Jeffrey Dean mortgane.
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Jeff Yes, oh my god,
no, wonder we forgot. Yeah.
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I don't know what it's called,
but don't watch it. Don't don't
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watch it. What a wonderful podcast
it was, right, Yeah, so
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go listen to our episode about a
very bad movie. I'm already on it,
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but it's gonna take me a minute, so keep keep a wo Yeah,
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well, Jen finds the movie.
We're gonna talk about what we're drinking,
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which is this gorgeous Kirkland special.
I like Kirkland red Wine. It's
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very sharp in the beginning, and
then you're Chary came around. Yeah,
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it's plummy. It seems like closer
to being in the fruit than it is
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to being wine. I guess,
does that make sense? Like, yeah,
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but not all. It's fresh,
not to the point where it's like
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a religious wine where they're like,
oh, this is so sweet, it's
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for Jesus only. This one has
a little bit of like body too.
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It's almost agri at you. Yes, yeah, that's the Yeah. I
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would put more sugar and fruit in
it if I was, if I had
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my way Glasgow great for some weish
we heard it here first figured it out?
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Was it? Are we ready?
Yes? The accidental husband, oh
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wild, classically an accident. He
did it on purpose. That movie just
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evaporated from my brain. Whatever that
is dead, just like peped it out
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of your poor picked it out on
our podcast, and then it died,
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just like just a little ant and
a little aunt and his worker after we
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finished this conversation. By the time
we get to the end of this podcast,
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I will have again. But you
know what, we won't forget.
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Poor things, poor fucking things,
everybody. I need you guys to know
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that we are doing this because we
were drinking last podcast and we realized that
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we promised this. Yeah, we
decided a lot any time. So if
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you listen to the last one,
you're like, well, where's the poor
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things? We can't do anything but
poor things. We promise, and I
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do poor things. We had some
other We've watched other movies in betwixt and
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we were like, let's do those
because for some reason, everything Mallory and
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I are watching right now has pod
has weddings in it. Yeah, like
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a secret wedding. Wedding Yeah,
American fiction. Yes, what fucking that?
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Perfect? Those spoilies, but a
wedding popped up and going to come.
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There was a wedding in there.
That was the best movie I saw
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in twenty twenty four, all two
weeks which were early in it. But
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still, I know, I think
it's going to hold up to every Everyone
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is like against that. So now
we're giving you a preview for our next
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episode. Well, now we're we
have po We could do Spring Desert Spring,
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but that one's old. We could
we could throw that at any time.
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Sorry, Andy Samberg, you guys
are I like that movie and it's
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all about a wedding over and so
there's so much content. You guys are
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drowning and content Christina Meliotti. Yes, yes, it's okay, pure gallaghers
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in it. Yeah, America's dad, I say, America's stepdad. Man,
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I love him so much, but
America's cool. You remember him in
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Center State, You remember him in
the best movie, the movie with Bill
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Pullman and Sandra Bullock. Yes,
I think we talked about that sleep Sleeping
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sleepless. No, no, oh
my god, I bring up I don't
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know. It's one of my favorite
She pretends to be his Beyonce, and
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his family's like what he had a
Beyonce except her as one of theirs.
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But then she oh, no,
spoily, sorry, it's from the nineties.
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I think it only came out in
nineteen ninety two. Yeah, I
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don't know. I can't believe that
we are blanking this because it was it
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is sleepless in Seattle, Okay,
no, while you were sleeping. While
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you were sleep in Seattle? Is
the other with Tom fucked with me?
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There I put I just put in
Sandra Bullocks sleep and it pulled up.
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She's not even she's not even in
that so cool so a wild was also
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fused and then try to guess like
me and you know what, Google,
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We're going to cancel the funk out
of you for gas lighting. Man's guess
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what I'm going about to go to
quant. Yeah, It's time to go
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to quant everyone. Yeah, take
that? Is that? Okay? Bing
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is a great devil Microsoft? Hell
no, yeah, they do have the
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best AI now, oh, Bart, I think it's before we start digging
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into this incredible, most wonderful as
as one reviewer that I read on Letterbox
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said Barbie for people with mental illness. I'm gonna pull up the Letterbox review.
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Yeah, so you keep talking it's
so fantastic. So uh and as
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a room full of people with mental
illnesses, I can't even argue with it.
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I can't even argue with it.
I'm like, yeah, now,
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I freaking loved Barbie, but this
movie is different, completely different. But
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before we start digging into it,
I do just want to say this podcast
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will have spoilers. There is no
way on God's Green nerth Notes not talk
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about poor things than you without digging
in. I just want to talk about
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Usually we talk Ruffalo and I have
to spoil it all. Usually on these
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podcasts we like spoil and we don't
care because they're older movies but this is
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we are looking at look at us
go we are trying to be relevant to
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new movies. Watch it about some
fun time. It is incredible. So
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pause right there. It was right
at the beginning. I saw that that
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was the first ones. Yeah,
pause right now and just save this podcast.
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Go watch this movie and come back. Okay. But also the waiting
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to spoiled for you to get in
there, do that too, whatever,
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Yeah, that's true. I have
so many friends that do that. Just
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yes, we're just warning for those
who don't care it. Yes, this
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is a great movie to not have
spoiled, like to go on the journey
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with. I will say, if
you're somebody that gets anxious about movies and
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so you like to read the whole
script before whatever the wikipedia of the plot,
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this one really doesn't have a anxiety
written storyline or a third act that
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makes you break your heart. It
really is just a well woven story.
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And I didn't feel that pain of
anxiety that I often feel in movies.
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I don't know what about you,
guys. I there are a couple of
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moments, like towards the end,
especially the third act, gave me a
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little bit of like, oh,
I don't know well, yeah, there
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was a lot happening in the third
act that husband was something. Yeah,
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yeah, let's start with act one. We don't have to share the story
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of what happened, but we can
talk about our reactions to it. Yeah,
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let's just yeah, let's just let's
just vibe it. We're gonna get
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boozy and start just doing what It's
the first time on our podcast review that
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we haven't done a shot to start
us out. Oh yeah, crap,
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these we're ladies and we forgot.
It's coscos from Costco, the costco we
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went to look. So yeah.
One thing I have to say about this
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movie is that it is so beautiful, and that's what I was going to
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say. And the costuming is incredible. I'm upset it's gonna win all the
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costumes. I don't think I've seen
anything like this since until like a tarsm
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Sing movie. Like that's like the
last time there was like a vibe that
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was this rich and just detailed,
and there we was so much thought for
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our listeners that don't necessarily know who
like what movies that individual has made just
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our listeners, not me. I
totally know what you're talking about. Will
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you pull up some of Tarzan's movies, so I can follow this. I
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think his best known because you know
how I can't remember his best known one
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is The Fall of Its like we
Pace's first movie, which is so beautiful.
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That's like aesthetically my favorite movie.
It's just love it. It's just
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it's yummy and everything is so good. And I think it was the costume
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designer on it. What was her
name, she's really famous. She did
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The Cell That was another fun movie, really great costumes in that that's like
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costumes for me is like it's my
favorite thing in a movie. And it's
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honestly, I go Ishioka and who
is since past? But she was so
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incredible and everything she did with Moved
was really art. When we talk about
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the costuming, I just want to
I'm obsessed. Not a few things like
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specific to it. So I noticed
that she always has puffy sleeves and that
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she often shows her legs in a
time when nobody a time. I guess
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in all reality, this movie is
set in another universe, right, there
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is no sense of time. There's
there is a sense of location. They
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talk about cities and places, but
all in all, it's oh my gosh,
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what was the city that they went
to. That was just Lisbon.
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Lisbon was such a cool vibe,
like just like but it's it's obviously not
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to the time right in the clib
City. Yes, that's yeah, And
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it's also kind of a fantasy version. It's like a fantasy version of that
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time and place. Yeah, it's
very Terry Gillium and the way that manufacturing
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happened, Like the machines in it
are very Terry Gillium. Like there's a
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a part where there's a carriage that
has a horse head on the front,
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but it is a car and there's
a lot of animals that are multiple animals
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together, like a dog, a
pig with the dog's head bulldog on the
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head. To say, if you
haven't seen the movie, basically characters,
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it's basically Frank and Sid except for
so the main characters. Starting in the
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beginning is God. Godwin calls him
God, who is like a professor at
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a college, right, and then
he finds a guy that he called I
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think he called them very mediocre or
something. He's like, you'll be perfect
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is so good obsessed with He's like, you'll be perfect for my assistant,
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So he makes him his assistant.
He comes home, he finds Emma Stone
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basically acting like a baby. Kind
she's yes, she doesn't have all her
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language. She is infant. Yes, she's an infant, and that's what
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he even says. He says,
you know, she is an infant,
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and we later find out she is. Yeah, she has brain, so
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but like it develops faster, which
I'm assuming is you know, due to
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her adult body body. Yeah,
but I also like it's basically Frankenstein but
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with a woman. And I think
it's so telling that they shortened God whin
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to God and so she calls him
God the whole movie. Yeah, she's
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like my God, Yeah, God, God, Hi God, And sometimes
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it's like father God too, Yes, Father God, it's like father.
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Yeah. And the way she talks
about him to other people, like she's
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like, ah, well, God
says like God doesn't want me to do
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things like with my body, I
don't asturbate, And then they're like,
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yeah, God does not want you
to masturbate. I guess, like,
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yeah, yeah, it is just
very funny. You can tell that other
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people don't understand what she's talking about. Yeah, but she and like Emma
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Stone is so good in this,
She's just fantastic. I honestly think that
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she like I mean laala and whatever. Like I kind of I could take
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it or leave it. It's not
my fun. It's it's my favorite to
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get high to and watch. So
I love the character of him being like
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wanting a jazz club and then being
like a down and out jazz club owner.
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I don't know, it corrects me
out. I think that always bothers
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It's not perfect. The thing that
bothers me with Oscar sometimes is I feel
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like they will award them to people. It's like a you know, like,
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oh, like a stone's a big
right now if we if we give
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it to her, it's like a
big it's all, it's a big thing.
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But I think she's so much better
than this movie far. This is
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what she should get it for,
you know, by far. So it
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bothers me that she might not get
it just because of Oscar politics, because
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like it's so fucking I will tell
you my personal belief, and that is
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as soon as it's like most movies
that look like Oscar baby movies, I
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refuse to watch. Yeah, I
just don't. I don't watch a lot
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of movies that are Oscar movies.
I you know, to this day.
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I haven't seen over Over. I
got the pass, you know, Yeah,
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so I just do whatever. But
it's just it was too long.
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I couldn't watch it. But like
those kind of movies that play to the
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Oscar expectation, Uh, what I
loved about, like a couple of years
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ago, was when everything everywhere,
all at once just got to sweep as
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a film that is completely different and
does not speak to Oscar bait it that,
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Yeah, I need to rewatch.
That's so, let's like what I
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did. Am I the only one
that noticed, like the constant puffy sleeve
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because I wanted to know the message
behind it. I've been like it's been
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maybe it wasn't anything, maybe it
was just her look. But I just
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wondered because even if she aged,
and even if she came into her own
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womanhood, she still had that.
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right. Her dresses had these big
poofy sleeves, which I had as
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a kid, you know, and
it had this like childlike demeanor to it
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the costumes. But then by the
end it was the same but with more
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adult touch. And I think it's
just fascinating that she's a nod because a
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lot of it is like based off
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Oh yeah, her dressed very yeah, like properly Victorian almost like or turn
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of the century. And then so
her it's all kind of like a playoff
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of it. What I noticed was
that at first a lot of there's like
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a lot of transparent clothes, and
that was always like more like it started
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clothes or like clothes that you would
wear in a library or like in a
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laboratory. And then also the one
thing I noticed was when she went to
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her old life, it was very
like constrained, like very detailed, and
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it's just like the clothes felt so
constraining compared to her other clothes. Well,
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she didn't show any skin. Yeah, she was completely covered in her
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when she when she went back to
the original husband. Yeah. She To
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me, the vibe was very much
like a child who was like getting into
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their wardrobe and just beings on and
like it's her as she like is going
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through the movie. It's sort of
she's always got the puppy sleeves, but
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she starts off with shorts and then
a sheer skirt. But she's sort of
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her fashion matures, so it's almost
like this is like a visual symbol of
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like this is a baby and at
the end, this is a woman.
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I was seeing and I was seeing
a lot of like woman's a woman's story
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through the clothes. I felt like
it was a lot of like she doesn't
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own her body as a baby,
like she just is, right, there's
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no like she just is. She's
literally she's a simple she's a nineties.
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Ninety percent of the time, it's
like just whatever, like whatever you put
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me in is fine. But then
she starts becoming really like I'm gonna wear
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what I want, and it's a
lot of body showing. It's a lot
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of like her herself is showing and
like nobody else in the movie has that,
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but yet nobody in the movie looks
at her oddly for wearing it either,
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which I also noted, Yeah,
nobody's And I think it's there's like
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some of the wealth of that too, because she's presented as being a lot
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of having a lot of privilege.
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So there's like she has some permissions
because of her privilege. Yeah, yeah,
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for sure. For actually because she's
like you know, and because she's
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beautiful, So there's like she's got
this privilege of beauty, of whiteness,
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of like money. So she's wearing
that in a way too, And I
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do think it's interesting that then they
take it away, right, So then
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she's in an old like in the
Victorian smock, right, very constrained,
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very held back, And yeah,
I thought that was it. I mean,
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they definitely. I love the story
of costumes. Yeah. You know,
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one of my favorite things of that
TV show on HBO that I loved,
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Succession, was the story of the
costuming that that designer did and that
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nobody. You know, you watch
that movie and or that TV show and
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you're like, it's all modern clothes, but you're missing so much subtlety in
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that show. It's incredible. And
that's what I felt watching this, Like
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there was a lot of story through
her clothes. I agree, yeah,
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and I think through the other characters
clothes as well. But the main Yeah,
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it draws the most attention, for
sure, but there is a lot
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of the ladies. The awesome lady
on the boat, let's talk about her
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awesome well so, so first act
of this movie is she a baby.
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It's in black and white. She
hasn't discovered herself. I like this,
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she's in black and white. Yeah, yeah, and it's very uh,
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I don't know, it's kind of
unsettling the black and white to me,
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but it's still beautiful. The set
pieces are gorgeous. And then Rama Yusef
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as her. He's just tracking her
progress. Yeah, he's literally making notes
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on everything she eats, when she
peas, like everything she does. Like
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there's a part where she kind of
violently attacks a corpse because she wants to,
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like she just has the impulse to
do it, and God is like,
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yeah, like you're only yeah,
like get it, you know,
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have at it, just like a
baby playing with pain, right, and
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I you know, it's I do
really love how gory this movie gets at
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times because I feel like what they're
doing it's not scary, it's not it's
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it's like this is the purity of
a child's mind. Like she's not thinking
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that this is a human body.
She grew up around this. She's literally
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pieced together like as a human body, and she has a father that's constantly
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cutting open bodies in front of her, so she's just like, yeah,
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let's stab I love it. And
it's just so like there's no lead up
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to it. There's no like big
start like, you know, you watch
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gory movies and there's always like this
piece of like, oh, we're gonna
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stab. She's just like okay and
just start stabbing. Yeah, you know.
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And she talks like a baby too, she like and everything he's in
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the first person. She's like Bella, drink, Bella, belly, eat,
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Bella, masturbabe Bella. When she
discovers masturbation, I'm dead. That's
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funny. Yeah, I love it
too. One of my favorite things because
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it's also I mean, it's weird
because it's also very like the way that
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young girls discover masturbation. I was
like, it was just so like true
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to this shame. Yeah, like
the shame, yeah, shame within her.
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There is no shame until somebody's yeah, and even then she's not.
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She doesn't really have shame about it. But yeah, she's like, what
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do you mean? I can't put
this love in general about her entire character
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is that throughout her whole journey,
it's like everything she's discovered without shame.
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She doesn't have that learned shame that
we all have at our culture. So
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yeah, she has the unquestioning confidence. Yea, I love it. That's
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it, just it. Yeah,
I just love the whole that's the whole
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part of the movie, right,
I don't know. Yeah, and then
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we find it around this part,
Uh rammy, Uh sorry Max mccandle,
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McCandless. Is it McAndless or mccandle's
candles, right, mcandle's yeah, so
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mccandle's who is the assistant. He's
falling in love with her because she's beautiful
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and you know it just kind of
a beautiful baby at this point, this
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is very weird, but yeah,
and he and he starts investigating and he
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finds out that the reason that she
is the way she is is because God
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took found a woman who had committed
suit committed suicide with a baby who was
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pregnant, and uh the baby was
like almost full term. And then he's
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like, well, like this is
a pretty fresh corpse. I'm I might
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as well try some shit. So
he takes the fetus brain and puts it
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in the woman's head and then can
you imagine being your own mother? That
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was so very meta weird. When
like when that part came out, I
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was like what I just kept like
my brain kind of farted for a second.
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I was like, it was like
the cyclical nature. Whoa, and
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then she has a kid one day
and then that's whatever. Yeah, but
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but yeah, so she like that's
kind of how she is, the way
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she is, Like that's her Frankenstein
moment. But Max is also totally in
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love with her and he wants to
marry her, and God agrees because God
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is dying and he wants somebody to
like to take care of her, to
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look after her. But they I
also think there's a little bit of I
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want her controlled. Yes, right, so there's a little bit of like,
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I would love you to marry her
because you are here all the time.
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He's already he's in the fold to
understand their toether household of weird Frankenstein
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things. I will give some credit
to God, I did. I never
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felt like the story wasn't about him
capturing her. It was about him allowing
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her to explore. But I think
in a natural space, you have this
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child adult, and you're gonna be
more concerned and controlling naturally. And it
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never made me feel like he was
a bad person for it. I felt
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like he was. I mean,
he doesn't want her. There were a
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lot of things that I felt he
was a really bad person for because he
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doesn't want her to be seen.
She's very curious, but he won't let
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her explore that, and he like, is I don't think that's protection though
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on someone me, it feels like, well he could go on the trip.
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No she no, she goes on
the trip and that's it. Like
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he doesn't really enjoy she did drug
him yea, So well, yeah,
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he thinks he's protecting himself. Really
he doesn't want anyone to find her find
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out like I think this woman on
his end, yeah, it's love,
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but like it's still yes, I'm
not saying that it's the right love,
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just saying that his intention is not
a bat like he's not coming at it
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from like I must control, right, which is why I think she's able
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to forgive him for like the control
that heat here, it's on her.
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Yeah. So yeah. So in
the process, they try to create this
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crazy document that basically enslaves her for
the rest of her life to God and
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to Max like so she has no
autonomy and they bring in to do this.
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They bring in Mark Ruffalo as Duncan
Duncan Wedderburn. What a great name.
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Oh my god, this is the
best movie I've ever seen. This
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best all the Awards. I loved
him from like thirteen going on thirty.
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Oh yeah yeah, never not loved
Mark Ruffalo, but this is his best
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so delicious. How describe it,
I would describe it. I love that
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so he's kind of camp in some
ways, like he's just over the top
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and he really is Nick Cage in
this movie. He took something and he's
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big, went big and he didn't
back down and he didn't he wasn't afraid.
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He was afraid, he was all
and it was his expression too,
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is everything about his character goes to
the extreme. I also love that nothing
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fucks up a womanizing like man more
than a strong independent woman. This is
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my favorite part. She goes he
goes to the insane aside because because he
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couldn't control her and he couldn't figure
out why he couldn't control her. That's
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my favorite part of the entire plot. Yeah, and there is a part
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too. There's a part of this
movie and I think you guys had a
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very strong reaction to it. To
me, it was because I think I
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had some like cinematic detachment from it. It didn't really bother me. But
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the part where he first meets her
and so like she's in a room in
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her like night gown and she's straight
up and she's masturbating, and he like
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he like basically grabs her. And
I was like, to me, I
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was like, that's hot. Oh
no, No, isn't that So this
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might be a really great conversation for
this though, because I you know,
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there is such a wide conversation to
be had about consent and everything else.
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I thought it was the sexiest shit
ever. Yeah, but I was like,
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that's not okay at the same time, and is it just okay because
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he's because she's into real? Is
it okay because she's in it? But
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also she doesn't have is because and
then Mark doesn't know she doesn't he doesn't
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or that he doesn't know that she
has a baby braid, so off,
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he doesn't know why she's still opening
open like doesn't like tell him to get
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out of her room when he does, Because I'm not gonna lie. I
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bet most women have not told him
to leave the hands and this is not
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a first time this man has done
this move. And I you know,
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he's just that kind of a guy, and so I'm sure women telling me
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he's a scoundrel and to leave.
But I guarantee you a lot of them
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straight up go with it. Ya, he's hot and it's a sexy like
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it's a very aggressive and sometimes forward. Sometimes that aggression in that forwardness is
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not a bad thing, which is
very complicated, complicated because you don't know
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it's yeah, it's it's kind of. It was very interesting to me because
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it just fucked me up because I
was in a cycle in my head.
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That's why it affected me so much. Yeah, she's like, this is
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hot, but it's not okay.
But it's not okay. But it's because
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I remember when we watched it the
first like I had a moment like that's
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hot and just didn't think about it
again. And then after you guys were
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like that was really fucked, I'm
like, oh yeah, fair realistically fucked.
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But I would like to put this
out there that if Mark Ruffalo wants
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to climb into my bedroom at any
time and grab me by the puss,
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Mark, I'm on board, Marnita. Can I just put this as a
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blanket. I need to get a
Trellis outside my window. Marcus Ruffalus,
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Marcus Marcus and Ruffalos. Yeah,
he very much is concerned with consent.
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Yeah, but I'm saying this is
I'm giving him. I'm giving him consent
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right now, Mark, Mark.
Yeah, but yeah, that was so
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interesting to be and like the in
that shared experience we had of it.
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Yeah, just but that shows that
I love that because it's such I think
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truth. Yeah, that just comes
from me, my like trauma, like
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being like but she's a baby you
that It's not just from that thinking of
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this. Yeah, I think it
just is like what comes to your mind
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first in a scene like that.
And I think that that was the brilliance
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of the director even doing that like
that is like leaving us with that thought
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of like wow, that was sexy
or that was fucked up or both,
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and then like I didn't stop thinking
about that scene for days because then I'm
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thinking to myself, what if that
happened to me? Where? What is
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that fucked up? Is that not
fucked up? Like how would I respond
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to that in that very same situation? And you know what I'm saying,
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I feel like that is almost quintessential
like coming of age for women. There's
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this moment I think, and every
woman has it to like some degree or
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other where like you're kind of something
is happening and you're like I don't know
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if I'm into this. I don't
know. I don't know if this is
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acceptable. I kind of like it, I kind of hate it, and
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00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.160
you like you just all and it's
so hard to see so well done.
406
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.759
Yeah, yes, yeah, it's
such a brain fuck. Yeah, you're
407
00:27:55.799 --> 00:28:00.400
so smart, guys, we're so
smart. But I think that's exactly because
408
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.400
we all have had that, and
like I look back on mine and I'm
409
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:07.599
like, was it bad? I'm
still not like, or is my bad
410
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.039
feeling about it still because of the
like religious guilt I had at the time
411
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.640
or something else. All right,
did I consent to that? I don't
412
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:18.119
remember consenting yet, but I also
don't remember saying no. So it's like,
413
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.519
is this my yea, we have
to learn that that's part of it.
414
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.720
And it's not even necessarily that physical
touching. Sometimes it's just a moment
415
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.599
where like somebody is like flirting with
you inappropriately and you're like, I don't
416
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.720
know if I like this or hate
this. Yes, you know, like
417
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.039
there's a lot of like and years
later you still may not know. Yeah,
418
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:37.599
you might not know, true,
And that's being a woman podcast over
419
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:45.319
and see. Yeah, just sorry, I laughed so loudly right into the
420
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:52.359
mic. Just then that was always
enjoyed, that very loud, not just
421
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:55.519
kidding. I should be defying away
from the mic. I'll do my best.
422
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:59.759
Yeah, I think we should all
be more goaffying into mics right deeper
423
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:07.559
deep microphone gaffaws. Then she and
she and Wedderburn run away to Portugal.
424
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.240
They go to Lisbon. Yes,
and I fucking love Lisbon and my god
425
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.119
is it not the great? And
you know us? Can we just take
426
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:19.160
two seconds though? I'm so sorry
you guys. The response of the two
427
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:23.000
men when she wants to leave,
Yes, I I fell in love with
428
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.000
with Max. Yes, because he
very much was like, but I'm your
429
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.440
fiance and she's like, but I
want to go fuck this guy. It
430
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:37.000
was amazing she because she doesn't understand
cultural expectation of what fucking is and marriages
431
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:38.880
and all of that. So she
was like, I'm gonna go do that
432
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:41.839
and explore. And he actually was
in the end, was just like,
433
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.279
are you gonna come back? Yeah? She's like yeah. He's like,
434
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.720
Okay, we're engaged. I'm in
marriage. His characters so much. Yeah,
435
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.319
his love for her is so it's
pure, pure in its own way.
436
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.160
There's like some fucked upness to it, and someone gets mostly from God.
437
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.440
But that's real too, Like it's
to be like this is a pure
438
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:03.119
good thing and also a little fucked
up. Well, also, I think
439
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:07.279
it's also fair for a man or
a woman to respond like what to be
440
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:12.720
like they're social expectations for a reason, and to not have she doesn't know
441
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.480
how to have those conversations, yea. And when he it takes him as
442
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:21.880
a step back because he knows that. But that doesn't mean he's like I
443
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:26.400
think it makes I thought he handled
that situation very well. Yeah, Max
444
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.480
is like the opposite of Duncan or
Duncan wants to control her and Max wants
445
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:36.799
just just loves her and lets her
be her. Which I just realized he's
446
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.799
really the only one in the opposites. Yeah, they're both the casting director
447
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:47.279
in this that person also deserves an
oscar. It's I want to see Rommy
448
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.079
Yusuf and everything. I want everything. Did you ever watch a show like
449
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.960
the show? Is the show?
It was called Rommy? It's a no.
450
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.799
It's about being a Muslim American in
New York and like just to you
451
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.559
know, trying to be cool and
American, but also like up before.
452
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.920
Yeah, yeah, it's a beautiful
show. It's just like this like convergence
453
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.160
of like being uh yeah, being
the children child of immigrants and like wanting
454
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.880
to go forward but wanting to hold
onto this thing that made you you.
455
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:12.519
It's it's great. It's so good, and I like, I can't wait
456
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:17.079
to see him and everything now because
he's his sweet brown eyes. It's just
457
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:21.039
like, yeah, I have to
say just say too though, Like Christopher
458
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.039
Abbott is fantastic. I've seen him
in a bunch and he's got such a
459
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.559
fucking great job. Yeah, but
you're not going to hear about him intill
460
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.880
act four. Yeah we are before. I'm so sorry. So let's get
461
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.000
back to Lisbon. Yeah, everything
is amazing. And she eats pastries by
462
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.960
the ten pastry did not, which
is I gotta say, my favorite pastry
463
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:38.920
in the whole fucking world. Love
it. It's a custard tart. It's
464
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:41.839
real. Yeah the U I knew
it was real, but I've never had
465
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.759
it. I don't a particle.
I don't know. So you can actually
466
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:49.599
get them at Costco. They're not
gluten for I guess you could have scooped
467
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.440
out the customer perfect. Yeah,
I like just the custard, just the
468
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:57.279
custard of that. But yeah,
it's a it's made in a well.
469
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.000
The most famous one is like,
uh, she's de Bellum and it's like
470
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:07.240
the oldest bakery in Portugal and they
actually make these custard tarts in a vault
471
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:12.039
and like because the recipe is so
secret and I think only like a handful
472
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.559
of people actually know it, so
they make this is incredible. It comes
473
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.640
out and like it's been kind of
in this one family line for years,
474
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:22.480
and I love that Mallory was a
baker for so many years. I hadn't
475
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.559
actually Lisbon. I hate it every
day for breakfast. It was so good.
476
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:30.039
Tell us the comparison, and I
mean, Lisbon is maybe my favorite
477
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:37.440
sitting in the world. It is
not as like Orange usually. Yeah,
478
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.680
they got the heart. But that's
what I love about movies like this is
479
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.720
because they allow themselves to leave the
reality a little bit and to like go
480
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:52.519
into fantasy a little bit. You
actually get I usually get from anything I've
481
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.440
traveled to in any movie in this
vein right where they do this little bit
482
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:00.440
of fantastic fantasy within the reality.
That's what you really do feel the heart
483
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:05.480
of the location though, because you
could show me the beaches in Greece,
484
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.000
but I'm not going to feel the
emotion of it without that little piece of
485
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:15.039
fantasy. And I really love how
this director the director is the director,
486
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.240
Oh my god, Loanthemos. I'm
sorry, I can't pronounce his name because
487
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:23.279
I'm that's okay, okay, I'm
just gonna say Your Ghosts. I felt
488
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.440
like Your ghost did a really good
job. I didn't feel like the vibe
489
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.319
of the movie was for the sake
of the vibe. A lot of movies
490
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:31.440
like this, I feel like,
goes so over the top just for the
491
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:37.759
sake of color and just to be
like we're different and I'm I'm creative,
492
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:44.519
but this felt like was actually expressing. He's the most intentional director of in
493
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:49.440
general. He's so He's fantastic.
I love The Favorite Killing. Literally everything
494
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.319
he's done is like my favorite movie. Well except for The Lobster. I
495
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:53.960
love The Lobster, but I also
think that it's great that you hate it
496
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.960
because it's like it's very reactionary.
I think that's kind of his movies,
497
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.759
right, I think, yeah,
But I loved every single other one.
498
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.680
I loved killing him a sacred deer. I it's just this one and maybe
499
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.119
one day I'll rewatch it and love
it, you know, but it just
500
00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:10.440
whatever was I tried it three times, but it was in you know,
501
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.639
that's fine. It was years ago
by now, like I might find that
502
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.880
I love it now. But this
movie felt very intentional and expressive. Yeah,
503
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.320
and just it's so fucking pretty.
I want to go to that Lisbon.
504
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:30.599
Can I go to that one?
No? Sorry? Ish in the
505
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.480
future, Ish, Yeah, like
Ish does. She also learned that like
506
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.320
too much of a good thing is
not a good thing. She learns this
507
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:39.559
is where she she asked them because
she they have the pastries and she's like,
508
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.280
can we have another? And he's
like, no, you just have
509
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.400
one? Just going to bring that
up, yeah, and then she sneaks
510
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:51.159
out and then she's a row.
But she's also just the same thing where
511
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.719
like they're just fucking the whole time
and like and it's just like is this
512
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.440
too much of a good thing?
Like she's like, why don't people do
513
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.599
this all the time? And yeah, this is like this section of her
514
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:02.599
life is all about just like pleasure. It's just about like what do you
515
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:06.519
want? Like she drinks too much. It's kind of like eat Pray Love,
516
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:08.840
but like Frankenstein, Yeah, this
is her italy, her italy.
517
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:13.440
This is the Italy part of love. Yes, yes, where she's just
518
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.760
like exploring everything and like, yeah, the she's the hooker is when she's
519
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:24.920
of her prey. That's her Yeah, yep, because the boat is when
520
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:30.840
she like finds like an intellectual stimulation. And then the whorehouse is where she
521
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.519
finds like parent intellect and that's where
she falls. That's where she finds.
522
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.159
Socialism's where she smart and where she
learned. That's her prey. Seriously,
523
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:43.519
she learns to pray it's a hooker
and then she comes to love. Yeah,
524
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.800
beautiful. This is so this is
also prey love for people with mental
525
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:52.280
illness. This is what your ghost
does. Eat pray love, Frankenstein,
526
00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:00.199
pray love, love it, love
it. Yeah. And then uh,
527
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.800
it's basically like she kind of she
goes into excess of it, right,
528
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.719
Like she like she's eating all the
pastries, she's drinking all the liquor,
529
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.880
she's fucking all the time, yes, doing whatever, She's going to dinner
530
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:16.679
and embarrassing. Oh, that's such
a go with the music of this movie.
531
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:22.760
Oh my god, the music,
the whole soundtrack, it's so discordant.
532
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.280
So they're at the party and then
she's kind of over him at this
533
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.119
point because he's very judgmental, he's
very controlling, and she's matured out of
534
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:35.280
well. He's he's a victim of
his circumstance. He's a victim of the
535
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.639
world he lives in. That's what
he's used to. I love it because
536
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:42.599
he's used to having like love affairs
like this where he takes women out and
537
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.760
does these like trips. Obviously he's
used to this. This is not the
538
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.880
first time he's done this, and
this is a time in history or whatever
539
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.320
in the culture where that is okay. I don't know if you guys have
540
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:53.920
ever seen like Gigi. Yeah,
one of my favorite movies of all time.
541
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.360
That movie. I do not love
the terrible No, it's horrible,
542
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.679
but loving it. It's terrible.
She's like sixteen years old, it's fucked
543
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.079
up, and he's known her she
was a baby. Watch But I used
544
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.400
to love it. I still love
it. I can't help it. I
545
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:13.360
don't know. Grew up loving anesthetic. Yeah it's anesthetic, But I was
546
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.920
thinking of seeing clips. I'm going
to be honest, I was thinking a
547
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:23.400
lot about this. Yeah, girl
up in the most delightful way to keep
548
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:30.199
pretending. I'm just gonna pretend about
this. Just read the Wikipedia. I
549
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.159
own it, so we can't watch
it anytime. But then I tell you
550
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.760
that vibe because of the whole like
the expectation of the culture is to have
551
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.480
mistresses, and those mistresses, uh, you pay for everything, and that
552
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.840
it comes and goes right. You
might be with this man for like six
553
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.199
months and it ends and it doesn't
matter. It's just such a part of
554
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:53.280
the culture, but it's always the
man like extravagantly taking care of a mistress.
555
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:59.280
What I love about this movie is
that I think a lesser period drama
556
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.719
would treat her like she's ruined after
that would be a whole point. She's
557
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.920
not even touching on it. She's
like, no, she's fine. I
558
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.119
feel like the whole story. That's
what I say when I say the movie
559
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.280
didn't give me all that much anxiety
overall until that very last thing with the
560
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:20.000
husband, like it just because it
doesn't over bear us in that world.
561
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.880
It's saying like, hey, it's
okay that she did this, It's okay
562
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:28.840
that she became a prostitute. Women's
sexuality is important. It doesn't like over
563
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:34.480
I guess it doesn't overset because she
doesnay it down that he doesn't. It
564
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.920
doesn't moralize about there's nothing. There's
no opinion from her parents, no opinions
565
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:44.039
from church. She's just fresh and
so she's like, what's wrong with this?
566
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:49.079
It's it's allowed. And the movie
itself, I like it too because
567
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.199
the movie comes from her point of
view. And that's something that I think
568
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:58.679
because the director could have put a
lot more weight on it, even though
569
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.679
whatever her mindset was, he could
have put more weight on this, right,
570
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.679
like, oh, how heavy it
is for her to be all of
571
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.679
this. It could have gone a
different direction. But he decided this movie
572
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:12.599
is going to go along the lines
of her mind. Yeah, so we're
573
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.679
only going to put the amount of
weight on this that she would put on
574
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:21.639
it. That's such a yeah,
right that Jan you're so smart. That's
575
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:27.079
job it's coming to right're doing a
great jobs. We're really good at those.
576
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:32.000
Why are we doing Popper's voice?
It is my dog's voice. That's
577
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:36.079
that's what we give to Malory's basset
hound's voice. Yeah, that's how she
578
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.280
talks. Yeah for real. But
yeah, so like she's going to excess
579
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:43.920
and then they're kind of drifting apart
and he's feeling this like lack, like
580
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.159
he has never wanted to marry anybody. He's been kind of like a flanderer
581
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:54.000
mistress. But then he propsed like
he wants to the early centuries fuck boys.
582
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:58.400
Yeah, he's a boy of the
time. But like her not being
583
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.599
that into it is like, you
know, usually women are throwing themselves at
584
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.159
him. I believe, like we
don't see that, but like he it's
585
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.280
pretty apparent. Yeah, he wants
to take go into some woman's room and
586
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.000
just grab her. I think that
was probable. That pretty Yeah, he
587
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.760
wants to take ownership of her,
so like to do that. She loves
588
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:16.679
Lisbon. She's having a great fucking
time. But what he does is he
589
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:22.320
tricks her into a suitcase and then
gets her on a cruise ships a trunk
590
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:27.920
was a trunk, but also a
question, like part of me is like
591
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.159
why did he have to do that? I guess because she kept going out
592
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.559
every night and drinking and like partying
and not listening to him. She would
593
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.880
like him into sleep and then she
would like go and want her but my
594
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:43.119
point is like easily she wants to
explore, so all he has to say
595
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:45.480
is like, we're going to go
to another country and it's going to take
596
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.280
a cruise ship. I feel like
him. Yeah, I feel like the
597
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.960
putting her into this case was unnecessary
mean. Yeah, it was unnecessarily mean.
598
00:40:55.440 --> 00:41:00.360
And I like because she's she is
a woman of means. She does
599
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.000
not need to be trapped, like, she doesn't need to be hidden onto
600
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.320
a boat. She doesn't need to
be tricked into it. Like if he
601
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.920
had just put in a morsel of
effort, he could have convinced her to
602
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.840
do it. Yeah, this man
doesn't want to put in any effort period.
603
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.719
He hasn't put in any effort this
entire movie. He's never had to
604
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:22.000
change, no one's ever asked him
to, no one's ever made him feel
605
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:23.320
like he needs to. And now
he's feeling just a little urge of that
606
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:25.800
and it makes him crazy. Yeah, it makes him literally go mud.
607
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.639
Yes. Well, and because she
wants to fuck him but she doesn't actually
608
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.440
like him. Yeah, And that
also it's almost like he gets enjoyment out
609
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:37.639
of women not feeling good about themselves, and then he's not getting any enjoyment
610
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.679
because I do not bothered by him. I do think there's something about Duncan
611
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:45.159
where he does really like the pleasure
part. He's just not used to being
612
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:51.199
outpaced at it. I was getting
that too, Like he loved what she
613
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.519
was all about. He just is
used to being the one that pushed for
614
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.440
it. Yeah, he's not used
to somebody being like anyways, moving on.
615
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.199
You know, he's not used to
feeling left behind exploring. Oh god,
616
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.400
I think that's a big part of
it. She's not like sitting there
617
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.639
waiting for him to wake up,
being like what should we do? Yeah,
618
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.239
yeah, she's like left I didn't
even invite you. I've been gone
619
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.119
all night. It was crazy too. I wasn't even think if I was.
620
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:15.760
If I was Duncan, I would
just feel a little bit of fomo
621
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:17.679
and kind of left out. I'd
be like, you don't want me to
622
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.719
go with you? And I want
to explore with you because she's like funked
623
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:24.880
him into sleep and then you can't. It's incapable. He's incapable, and
624
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.679
she's still ready to go. Yeah
yeah. Oh, and then I think
625
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:30.760
we should before we move on to
the ship. I think we should talk
626
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.199
a little bit about how God and
Max while they're left a home alone in
627
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:40.639
England making more than one oh yeah
one Margaret Margaret Quailey plays in the city
628
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.960
and and it's so interesting because they
do I assume they kind of do the
629
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:50.320
same thing where they take the adult
woman baby brain and then they did something,
630
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:54.480
did something. They make another,
they make another Bella and she's and
631
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:59.400
it's different Bella is. I love
this because it's when you see that Bella
632
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.559
was special mm hmm, Like because
she, Margaret or Felicity has a harder
633
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.159
time with the basics. Yeah,
she's a little slower on the you know,
634
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.880
the maturing of it. She's also
Yeah, it's gonna ask a question,
635
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.360
do you think now please? This
is gonna be kind of fucked up.
636
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:16.679
Okay, it came to my mind
and I have to say, so
637
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.599
we find out and like the third
act, and I don't mean to jump
638
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.559
ahead, but that basically her and
her husband were like sociopaths, right,
639
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:28.119
they like torturing people. But I
do feel like there's a certain level of
640
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:36.159
intellect that goes into that level of
human hate, like of sociopathy. And
641
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:40.599
I wonder if she naturally just is
so fun like her genetics or something that
642
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.159
leads you to that, is that
fucked up for me? I say that,
643
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:45.440
No, I think could be.
I think what this is to me,
644
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.199
what it's saying is like, yeah, you could do the same experiment
645
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:51.960
on a thousand women and you're never
gonna get there. Yeah, you're never
646
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.320
gonna get the same as the psychopathy. And yeah, yeah, like Bella
647
00:43:55.440 --> 00:44:00.760
is going to be like naturally curious, but Felicity is a more she's kind
648
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:05.440
of more preserved animalistic in some ways. She's a little more like scrappy and
649
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.880
like ready to go. They're just
like they're gonna have different qualities, like
650
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.599
you're never gonna and you're right,
there are really dumb sociopaths. Yeah it
651
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.119
doesn't really make sense, but I
just feel like, you know, you
652
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.480
see like Cereal now there's really dumb
serial killers. So never mind, Yeah
653
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.800
those are the ones get caught usually
well they yeah, well, and you
654
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:23.119
wonder we can get to this at
the end, but like you wonder how
655
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:30.800
much of like Bella, Bella's mother
was into these games. She'd kill herselfs,
656
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:32.320
so like, yeah, how much
she was like trying to like how
657
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.320
she be sort of trapped in it? Too, and she didn't want to
658
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:37.840
raise a child in it. Yeah, so hard to say, but we'll
659
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.360
get there. But any would make
another one totally different. They have a
660
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.920
totally like they a totally different experience
trying to raise her. She's like,
661
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.079
she doesn't have the same motor control. Margaret Quayley is great. She has
662
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:51.320
like the big, great job,
sort of vacant beautiful. Yeah, she
663
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.840
does a really good dumb beauty.
She's a great nepo baby. She's a
664
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:58.679
good one. Yeah. It was
good. Yeah, I liked her,
665
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:00.719
But I do think it's all so
interesting that they tried to replace her.
666
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:06.199
Yeah, immediately because Bella didn't say
she was going to be gone forever.
667
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:08.239
Yeah, but never in this situation. She was like, I just want
668
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.960
to go out and explore for a
time. Yeah. They immediately start chomping
669
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:13.719
at the bit. Yeah, they
were like, we need another one.
670
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.599
Yeah. I'm like, this is
dangerous, Like what does this mean when
671
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:17.920
this one goes to it? Like
what is going on? And I think
672
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:22.800
that's a god's narcissism. I think
so too. He can't have something that's
673
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.559
not his play thing. Yeah,
and there's also something like a through line
674
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.679
we haven't talked about it much,
but that like God was like he is
675
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:32.440
disfigured, and that he was tortured
by his father as a baby. Forget
676
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:37.519
very interesting, but I think makes
them such an interesting because he's like Frankenstein
677
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:43.679
and Frankenstein's monster at the same time
where he's like, I know, that's
678
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:49.480
why I really loved his character wife. Yeah, and like goes back to
679
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:52.280
that relationship he had with his dad. And so it is in a way,
680
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:57.519
he recreating his childhood with bella fix
it or trying to make but like
681
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:01.840
a better childhood. Right, he
never tortures was his childhood was doing experiments
682
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:07.039
on him. I think that he
was probably unable to have children too because
683
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.760
of all that. I wonder why. And so he this is like Chan
684
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.679
shocked many times, many times.
And so now he's like, this is
685
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:19.079
my chance to like bring something into
the world that's like his family, that's
686
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.960
family. He was creating himself a
family. Yeah, but also a very
687
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:28.719
cool experiment could change science forever.
You guys, to this day, we
688
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:31.320
still don't have an actual Frankenstein that's
been created. What are we even doing?
689
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:37.360
Crazy? Yeah, what are you
even doing out there? It reanimating
690
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:40.760
Will Dafoe is smarter than all of
you, guys. What are you doing
691
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:51.159
trying to solve global warming? Silly
leam, But is fantastic. I so
692
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:53.159
much prosthetic, really great prothetics in
this. Oh my gosh. Yes,
693
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:59.119
the work they did on him is
like not beautiful, obviously not beauty.
694
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:01.360
It is beautiful, but it is
beautiful. It's kind of like a yeah,
695
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:09.320
it's really well done. Yeah,
it's really wonderful. And the guys,
696
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.480
we've made it to the boat.
So Bella's pissed. She big time
697
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.599
Matt because she was put in trunk
and she and she had a fun time
698
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:17.800
on Lisbon and now she's on a
dumb boat and she doesn't get to do
699
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.440
what she wants. I really love
the term she big time Matt. She
700
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:27.280
big time Matt. That just made
my little heart going, Yeah, yes
701
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:31.880
she is. She meets a couple
of friends on this uh and one is
702
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.360
the older it's Jared. It's that
guy, Jared Carmichael. Yeah, and
703
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:46.760
then Hannah Hannah, she plays Martha
von something Martha, she plays Martha,
704
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:54.360
And then Harry Harry Martha Jared Carmichael. I love he's so like and I
705
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.920
really his relationship with Bella. To
me, I think is so important because
706
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:01.800
it's a male relationship where he does
not sexualize her at all at all.
707
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:06.320
It's like the first he's kind of
the only man. I mean, I
708
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:09.599
think to some degree kind of Oh, he definitely doesn't and not like a
709
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:14.320
he sexualizes her, but not in
like I'm gonna fuck you. Yeah,
710
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.800
I get different kind of sexual but
it's still she is very much her gender
711
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:21.000
to him, does that make sense? But to Jared or to Harry,
712
00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:22.880
I felt like Harry was like,
you are a human being. The Caesar
713
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:28.000
is an equal, and like Harry
is also a nihilist, which I think
714
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:35.440
is so interested to that it's coming
up against see anyway, at the end
715
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.679
of basically him leaving her afterwards,
where she's she's like, you're really just
716
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:43.559
a little boy that's been hurt by
the world. I mean he looks at
717
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:49.000
her and he looks like a little
boy. Oh yeah, so yeah,
718
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.360
but no, there is one spot
where, like I don't know if you
719
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:53.079
guys caught this, she goes to
his room like late at night, and
720
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:57.480
he's like, he's like, what
are you doing here? Because he thought
721
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.559
that's what she wanted. But then
she just goes on a about books and
722
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.039
whatnot, and there he also was
uncomfortable with that. Yeah, he's like,
723
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:09.039
get out of here. Yeah,
I thought it was kind of sexual,
724
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.480
yes, which I think. Yeah, so Harry and Martha I like
725
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.679
to take her under their wing on
the boat and then she's bored and pissed,
726
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.440
but they give her books and starts
reading. And I think this is
727
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:24.480
when like Emma Stone's performance really like
it just like walloped me. She like
728
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:29.519
the way she uses language as like
for and you see it a little bit
729
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:30.800
in Portugal, but you really see
it on the boat, Like the way
730
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.079
her language changes as she's adulting more
and like and she's figuring out and learning
731
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.039
more and becoming and she's so passionate
livery of those lines. Yeah, she's
732
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:44.199
so good, oh man, Like
am A Stone on the Boat is like
733
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:46.840
my favorite part of my favorite Amma
Stone. Martha on the Boat has so
734
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:52.840
many iconic like lie, I love
that both both like yeah, like fuck
735
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:55.480
this guy or with who's this you
have to experience it all or whatever she
736
00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:00.840
says till that's life. H And
there's a part where like when she's talking
737
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:05.360
and I really love this too because
I don't think there's a lot of older
738
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:09.239
female characters who really get to like
be more than just old women, know
739
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:14.320
what I mean. Yes, But
she's talking to I'm sorry, what's her
740
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.119
name again, Catherine, Martha,
Martha, I got there, Martha,
741
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:21.400
and just about like about sex,
and she's like, when was the last
742
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:22.280
time you fucked a guy? And
like, oh, Martha's like it's been
743
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:25.280
like twenty years. She's like,
oh my god, that's terrible. Did
744
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:28.239
you know you can do it yourself? And she's like, ah, yeah,
745
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.360
I have taken care of it.
I was like, I got it.
746
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:32.639
But I also like that. Martha's
like, I'm beyond that exactly,
747
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:36.719
Like I want to I want to
fuck my mind, like I want to
748
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:38.920
build my mind. I want to
feed it. Yeah, And that's when
749
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:43.880
I think is the first time that
she just realizes there's more to life.
750
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.039
Yeah, because she's so fresh to
this, she doesn't understand that you can
751
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:50.800
feed your brain like that in such
a way that it fulfills that. Yeah.
752
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.840
I just feelize that's the first time
she talked to any old woman about
753
00:50:53.840 --> 00:51:00.519
her sexuality, woman, just peer
any woman? Was that true? Wow?
754
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:05.400
Damn I just realized that me too. Damn. Martha, Martha,
755
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:08.039
Martha, Martha. So those two
characters, though, Martha and Harry,
756
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:15.920
they represent a lot. They represent
her introduction to to intellectual intellectualism, being
757
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:21.599
treated as an equal by a man, and having a woman that's willing to
758
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:24.400
talk to her about what sexuality is, like what that feels like, and
759
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:28.679
like mentors her in a lot of
ways, like you know, like gets
760
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.320
her to stand up for herself.
Not that like Bella needed a lot of
761
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.840
help with it, but like Martha's
like back in her up. Yeah,
762
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.760
Martha's writer. And that makes Mark
Ruffalo mad so mad. Oh that scene,
763
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:42.039
there's a good scene where they're on
the boat and like, uh,
764
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.920
Bella is reading and he'ps like yeading
books into the sea. Loved it because
765
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.920
he's so mad. So Mighty's just
throwing the books and like and Martha keeps
766
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:52.239
giving her new books and she's like, fuck you, I've got a ton
767
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:57.079
of books she wants to read.
And then he tries to murder Martha in
768
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:01.440
front of everybody boat and Martha is
just like so like yeah, whatever,
769
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:06.000
Like I was like, yeah,
I guess if I do go over yeah,
770
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:08.800
And She's just like this is so
funny. What a scoundrel. Yeah,
771
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:14.599
I Martha's like there's not a lot
of female care like old older women
772
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.840
in movies where you're like, I'm
okay with getting old, you know what
773
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:19.800
I mean. We're like, oh
yeah, like I want it, Like
774
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.079
I'm not scared of that stage because
that's when you that's where you get to
775
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.719
be Martha, right yeah, yeah
yeah. Or you're like a woman who
776
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:29.000
like stands up for like other women, and also like you've sort of divested
777
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:31.480
from like sex and in the way
that you like don't need it all the
778
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.400
time. You can really be in
your mind. I'm like, yeah,
779
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.519
be a Martha. Like we all
get to be Martha's some day and that's
780
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.559
great and for lucky. Yeah,
or you get to be the French pimp,
781
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:45.400
but Martha, I want to be
Martha. You get two choices.
782
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:49.719
I want to Can I be Martha
but look like the French because she's fucking
783
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:55.719
fucking cool lady. I'm pretty sure
she was from mulan Ruge. Catherine Hunter.
784
00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.039
We're gonna get sorry to this though, because I know we're about to
785
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:04.000
get to that plot point. But
you know, in any other movie,
786
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.199
a movie where a man gambles away
his money and then steals the woman's money
787
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:13.760
and leaves her abandoned in a city
tif and for herself would be like such
788
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:22.639
a dark, horrible PLoP. If
you say that the camera, like I
789
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:24.679
say out loud, oh yeah,
so he gambled his money away and then
790
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:28.239
all this and you hear it and
you're like, oh my god, that
791
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.119
movie sounds really heavy. I don't
know. It's a good time prostitute,
792
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:36.039
I guess going back to it,
but the movie doesn't give as much weight
793
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.880
to it as necessary necessarily might have
been, which helps you kind of feel
794
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:43.440
like her. Well, I think
in my head I was like, holy
795
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:45.440
ship, this is bad. But
then I was like, okay, no,
796
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:47.400
it's fine. And I think because
a lot of like puritanical anti sex
797
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.119
American culture are like, oh no, not a prostitute. Oh I didn't
798
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.079
even think. But then for the
prostitute, but that there's a lot of
799
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:58.480
freedom. Okay, we're going to
get to the prostitutes it now. I
800
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:01.880
think we're getting to it. Well, it's a constant constantinople is important,
801
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:07.119
I think, A yeah, I
don't know. Okay, So Harry takes
802
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.760
her on a trip and they go
off of the ship and then into Constantinople
803
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:15.440
and they go to this beautiful hotel
and it's like it's like all nice and
804
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:16.079
a view and she's like, oh, this is great, great, I'm
805
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:19.559
glad to be off the fucking boat, like love it. And they look
806
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:24.679
over and then down and then it's
just a scene of just terror of like
807
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:30.559
sadness and death and devastation and sickness
and just poverty, like she sees the
808
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:35.800
first time poverty, real pain,
because it's the first time she's seen real
809
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.480
like the agony of the human experience, and it breaks her and like this
810
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:43.280
is another time where Emma is so
good, like the reaction she has to
811
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:46.079
it like the first time of like
no, like it's just like this cry
812
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:52.639
that's almost I don't know, it's
like it's it's felt. It's a cry
813
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.599
for all Greek it's such like a
big tragedy. It felt like it felt
814
00:54:55.639 --> 00:55:01.039
like she was crying for all human
kind. They really leaned in. Its
815
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:07.320
wonderful. Not normal humans get that
experience of learning about something when you're a
816
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:12.559
kid, you get little your parents
at a time. Yes, just to
817
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:17.079
go from like I'm just experiencing everything
and everything wonderful, it's yes, and
818
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:21.800
Harry the Nihilist is like, this
is the reality reality, and I love
819
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:23.719
that he does that. She needs
to see it, yeah, because I
820
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.360
think it's and she can go through
her life constantly thinking that this is how
821
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:30.440
it is for everybody else. Yeah, and I think it's so interesting to
822
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:32.280
think of, like, oh,
you know, it's a it's a white
823
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:37.440
woman in a place of extreme privilege
seeing pain for the first time, and
824
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.159
she doesn't really know what to do
with it, Like she doesn't, so
825
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:43.599
her reaction to it is she's like, I'm gonna fucking fix it and I'm
826
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:45.159
just gonna throw money at it and
fix it. And she really doesn't.
827
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:51.360
She's not there yet to be like
I can make I don't know how to
828
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:54.960
make creating. It's huge, and
I don't think it's lost on me that
829
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:58.679
it is a black man that takes
her. Yeah, exactly. He's like,
830
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:00.239
I've seen real pain, and yeah, you want to like, you
831
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:04.480
can't keep going through life like this, you can't. He's like, I'm
832
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.039
not saying you need to be a
nihilist, but you need to understand,
833
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:10.119
like this is not all rainbows and
joy, and it's not because I was
834
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:15.159
hurt as a kid necessarily this is
the reality of everything we see around us
835
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:17.840
at all times, and I am. And then I love that it's the
836
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:21.639
white woman giving away the light man's
money. And I think there's a really
837
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:25.280
favorite part, beautiful part of like
Jared Carmichael's performance is Harry, where he
838
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:29.719
he like regrets that he's done it, you know, like he's like taking
839
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:34.159
something like yes, she's beautiful and
kind of innocent, and he he broke
840
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.599
it, and he broke it and
he feels some regret about that. But
841
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.800
she is like, no, I
needed to see it, and I'm like
842
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:40.719
better for it, and I know
what she says, but it's almost like
843
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:45.480
she says a bit very beautiful your
ghost line with Martha and Harry are not
844
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:50.679
so much as her friends but like
her teachers of like like her life teachers,
845
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:53.719
Like yeah, the boat is the
mind. She has, the mentors
846
00:56:54.079 --> 00:57:00.639
in her life and somebody that's more
than just scientist and more than people that
847
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:06.000
wanted something else from yes, like
everybody has an angle to her. These
848
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:08.960
two don't have any angle. They
don't want, they don't demand, and
849
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:14.599
they don't manipulate. Yeah, they
just give. And like they're the only
850
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:17.000
two characters in the movie that are
like that. Even Max, who we
851
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:21.840
love, who is a sweet guy
and is very patient and wonderful and wants
852
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.719
to give as much as he can, he still wants. Yeah. And
853
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:29.719
I'm not saying it's wrong to want. Yeah, it's complete. We all
854
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.880
want from the people in our lives. Like that's not but these people are
855
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:36.920
pure. I feel like those two
were just so pure, like, oh
856
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:38.400
my god, we gotta you know, let's take this girl in and they
857
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:44.559
fight for her against which is ye
Mark Ruffalo. Yeah. Little so he
858
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:46.880
wins a big old gambling game and
has a fuck ton of money and then
859
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:51.239
he passes out in celebration. So
there's money all over the compartments as she
860
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:55.639
gets home from Constance, from from
just incredible grief sadness, and she gathers
861
00:57:55.719 --> 00:58:00.440
the money and this is such a
fucking white woman. She gets the money
862
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.719
and she puts a little box and
she just like goes out and she's like,
863
00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:07.519
oh, I'm gonna like and there's
and they're they're about to cast off
864
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:09.039
and like they're the guys were telling
her that you can't go back, and
865
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:12.119
she's like, well, I have
to give them this money. I've got
866
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:14.800
to give them all this money,
and the and the sailors are just like,
867
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:16.440
oh you can't, like we're casting
off, like but we'll give it
868
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.480
to them. We can just give
it to us. I love that.
869
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.320
And you know what, they deserve
money too. They deserve money too.
870
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.800
I kind of was like, hilarious, these little fuckers. But also like
871
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.000
this is like you know where you
just have this like white saviors. Yes,
872
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:31.599
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna
do this really good deed and like
873
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:37.280
feel absolved of the pain that I've
seen way more. But also she hasn't
874
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:39.760
helped the way to deal with being
uncomfortable. Yes, yes, you're right,
875
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:44.159
but that's but that's but isn't that
the next phase of moving into her
876
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:50.039
adulthood understand that you can't just throw
money at things. And she realizes that,
877
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:55.519
like she learns from the experience when
her in her in Wedderburn Mark Ruffalo,
878
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.400
I just when they get kicked on, they get kicked off the ship.
879
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:05.159
Yeah. And I think it's also
amazing that she just tells him I
880
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.480
gave it away, Yeah, don't
worry, And she's like, don't worry,
881
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:09.679
I give the money to poor people. And he's like what that's the
882
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.960
money that's paying for our time.
Yeah, because I'm sure that it's like
883
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:16.440
he was relying on that money.
Obviously. I think he's more poor than
884
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:20.559
we imagine. Well, and it's
like he's it was a lot of money,
885
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:22.320
huh, and he had lost a
lot on the way up, and
886
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.840
so anyways, I just thought that
was amazing. But she did learn from
887
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:29.719
that, right, like they're cast
away, she has no money. She's
888
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:31.719
not understanding. Really, it's like
suddenly she gets that, Yeah, she
889
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:35.800
has like a consequence, like a
negative consequence for her actions, and this
890
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:38.320
is the first time yep. So
yeah, she never even got an STD
891
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:44.440
and then saying, even if her
action is so well intentioned, there still
892
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:47.239
is a consequence to it, because
everything you do affects other people. So
893
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:51.559
she steals money from somebody to give
it to the poor, but then also
894
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.159
doesn't even give it to the right
peoples to make sure that it's yeah,
895
00:59:54.760 --> 01:00:00.000
and to understand that just handing it
out isn't giving, isn't helping the people.
896
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:04.199
Constantino more, I just love that
that it's such a it's such a
897
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:10.360
nuanced takee of this like white woman
of like, but imagine like just in
898
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:15.920
general, if you came into this
picture it's your first time experiencing this,
899
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:19.880
I would do the same thing.
Yeah. I think most people would,
900
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.239
absolutely. And I think it's like
such a pivotal moment of like I want
901
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.840
to help, I'm helping in the
wrong way. I gotta like reassess.
902
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.719
Yeah, if you're a good person, if you yeah, you're trying right.
903
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:35.280
And I think that that's also like
appreciating the fact. Okay, like
904
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.760
you don't know, but you try, right, and that's that's fine.
905
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:42.960
Yeah, maybe don't try with other
people's money next time. Yeah, maybe
906
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.159
we learned the money don't give it
to the ship people for no reason is
907
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:52.800
affording your travel. Yeah. So
they're in Paris. It's winter. They've
908
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:54.760
kicked off the boat. It looks
so cold. He's pissed. He's big
909
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:58.480
mad, as he should because he
should be. That would be big mad
910
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:01.320
too. Yeah. But and is
this the part where she like it turns
911
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:06.719
out that God gave her a bunch
of secret money. That's the point where
912
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:07.039
she's like, oh, like,
by the way, I've got this,
913
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:09.239
and he's like, why didn't you
give it to me on the boas But
914
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:13.800
he takes it and takes it all
and he runs away and the big momive,
915
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:16.400
well this is after she is like, I'll go get money. She
916
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:20.000
right, is that's what it after? Okay, I was trying to remember
917
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:22.280
the time. I don't remember the
timeline. No, because she went to
918
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:28.079
the broct her customer. Yes,
she brings him the money. And Catherine
919
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:32.960
Hunter is the incredible pimp of the
swiney I've always ever seen of the newest
920
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:37.679
Macbeth with like Michael Fastbender, she
plays all three of the witches. You
921
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:42.320
should just look up that performance,
like Catherine Hunter is the witches in because
922
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.559
it's so She's so fucking good.
I like Michael Fastbender. I don't know
923
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:47.239
why I haven't just look up that
scene. I don't know if you want
924
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:51.519
to watch through a whole Shakespeare movie. Really does like Michael Fastpender, I
925
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:54.559
really do. I've seen Michael Fastbender
movie with Jen and she could not stop
926
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:59.920
talking about him. But Kill Killer. I made Eric watch The Killer too.
927
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:02.320
I thought it was boring. I'm
sorry that's Eric liked it. It
928
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.440
wasn't a bad movie. I just
love him. Well, it was a
929
01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:10.519
slow murder movie instead of a big, you know, explosion murdering. It's
930
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:15.119
slow and like slow and methodical.
Other parts of it. It just was
931
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:19.360
I just love him and I love
his performance and everything he does. Uh
932
01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:22.280
what was good or not? But
I love him. But Catherine, uh
933
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:30.079
fantastic swiny. She was in you
know that other movie, that other movie.
934
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:37.760
She happens upon the brothel question and
then she like she sees what Catherine
935
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:43.480
right, and she's tweenny and she's
it's like, oh, so if I
936
01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:47.920
have sex, I can get money, and so she has sex with the
937
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:54.320
man. As she becomes a whore
uh pross sex worker and wonderful of Parisians.
938
01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:58.599
She brings it back to duncan they
get into a fight. He's so
939
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:04.280
because I had sex for it.
He's so betrayed. He feels really betrayed
940
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:09.280
because he is because because he hasn't
experience. Also was a max being like
941
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:12.679
yeah, sure get it. Yeah. Also, I mean I don't love
942
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:15.280
that you're getting it, but like
I can't stop you. Yeah, she
943
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:20.280
just hasn't had somebody actually be mad
about it or jealous and true like true,
944
01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:23.880
like how dare you energy? And
yeah I loved that? Yeah,
945
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:27.719
And then I think he then takes
her money, pulls out her money and
946
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:30.320
she's like, we've never been in
trouble. I've always had this and he
947
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.639
grabs her money and runs, which
I think is like that's the moment of
948
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:37.159
the movie where you're like, oh
my god, it's dire everything. That's
949
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:38.800
the first time you're like stressed for
it. But she's not stressed for herself,
950
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:42.679
but she already knows how to get
twenty francs. Yeah, and she
951
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.760
just goes and becomes a prostitute,
which I also think is a very interesting
952
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:52.079
part of the movie because it really
does talk to what sex work like at
953
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:57.360
first because her first customer was handsome, her first customer interested her, and
954
01:03:57.480 --> 01:03:59.559
so she was like, oh,
I could do this. And part of
955
01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:00.920
it too is she's like, I've
only had sex with Weatherburn, so I
956
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:05.320
would really like to what's like different. But she doesn't understand that she doesn't
957
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:12.119
have to be paid in order to
explore that paid for it, especially when
958
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:15.519
she's about the world and she needs
it. And it's a very pragmatic look
959
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:19.039
I think at sex work and yes, I agree, yeah, And she
960
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:23.800
and Swinney have like very interesting conversations
about it of like this is kind of
961
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:27.000
this is what a woman can have
a lot of options as a woman.
962
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:30.880
I did. She tries to kind
of saint the system a little bit,
963
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.039
right, because she's like, this
is not working for me. Can we
964
01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:35.719
change it up? Yeah? I
have to say I felt like Swiney was
965
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:42.679
a character that was more closely resemblant
to God than other characters in the movie.
966
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.679
And I think that's when she realizes, oh, you know, this
967
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:50.159
person has taken me in and and
let me explore my sexuality, but does
968
01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:55.679
not necessarily have my best my best
in mind. Like Swiney is the snake
969
01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:58.519
in the garden, right, She's
such a good manipulator. She's been doing
970
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:00.800
this for a long time. She
knows exactly what to say it make this
971
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:03.599
sound appealing, and knows exactly what
not to say to everyone get a girl
972
01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:06.639
to turn away from it. I
think most women would fall for that.
973
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:11.400
Yeah, And I think it's desperate
enough. Ironically, I think that her
974
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:17.440
care. I think that Bella Baxter's
character has such innocence and openness and confidence
975
01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:21.079
that she doesn't I don't think.
And this this is the moment in a
976
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:25.840
movie where I was like, Wow, because all of us have been manipulated,
977
01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:29.760
and all of us manipulate that's just
part of our world and maybe not
978
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:33.079
on purpose, right, but we
do like and we all experience it.
979
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:36.639
And somewhere in my head I thought
I had to be some kind of like
980
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:41.800
ahead of the game in order to
recognize it, fight it, in order
981
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:45.079
to come up. I have to
go through years of therapy just to be
982
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:47.440
able to recognize when somebody's trying to
fuck with me. And this girl,
983
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:51.480
because she's just all it took was
confidence and she's just like not no,
984
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:57.719
and you're like, oh oh,
I didn't need like wow, however,
985
01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:00.960
many years of therapy and all this
work. I just needed to be confident
986
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:06.679
in myself. What what can we
just really quick? I know I've already
987
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:10.840
been talking a lot right now,
but I'd like to just throw in a
988
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:15.000
little thought on the Priest because that
was one of my favorite ones. So
989
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.119
the priest is one of her customers, and he's very attractive and very good
990
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:24.119
a bedstrative, and she goes through
a scene where it's a series of sort
991
01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:27.960
of rough montague she like she one
of the things she tries to push back
992
01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:30.840
with swiney on like Bella's like,
can we put some lavender oil on these
993
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:35.119
fucking balls? Like they are sweating. Yes, it's a lot, can
994
01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:39.039
we just I also loved it when
she just sat down with one of her
995
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:44.360
customers and she was like, I
want an anecdote, like just a little
996
01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:46.960
joke, just some way to make
it better for her. Yeah, She's
997
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:49.960
like, let's just do something to
make me feel connected to you also see
998
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:54.840
her like experiencing pain insects for the
first time. But then there's like the
999
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:59.559
scene where so there's like a montage
where she's having sex with various men and
1000
01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:00.800
one of the is like very attactihim
and she's like, you have a gift
1001
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:03.320
and then he puts the collar on
and he's like braced. It's like it's
1002
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:06.519
a curse because it's like, oh, like I can't stop. Yeah.
1003
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:09.679
I loved that. So what did
you want to say about it? That
1004
01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:12.239
was it? That was I just
wanted to point it out because I just
1005
01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:15.599
felt like I thought it was very
I just I thought it was like a
1006
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:18.840
little homage from the movie like he
was. It was a little dig that
1007
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:23.239
it didn't have to happen, but
I thought was so well done and so
1008
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:27.400
real because that is exactly what would
happen a lot of men of the cloth,
1009
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:30.800
because it's really like a character who
is very realistic the way that society
1010
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.800
of that time and this time too, honestly, this time too think of
1011
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:40.000
sex and sex work and like in
this like it's a hiding and she's that's
1012
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:42.400
the first time she sees it.
She's like, what do you mean it's
1013
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:45.280
a curse? I don't understand that
at all. You're great, that's great.
1014
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.400
Well, she probably has not a
lot of concept of religion none.
1015
01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:51.440
Yeah, which blessed God for that. Good job God. Yeah. But
1016
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:55.760
you know, as innocent and open
as this girl is, I also feel
1017
01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:58.760
like she has a scientific brain through
this whole process, you know, so
1018
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:00.760
she's it's a very animal, palytical
way of thinking. I don't know if
1019
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:04.559
every person on earth, if they
had been raised the way she was raised,
1020
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:12.079
as we already learned from feaslicity,
but would have that same you could
1021
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:15.279
be adventurous. It was just a
very specific personality that they gave Bella Baxter
1022
01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:19.680
in this movie. And you can
have all those same traits but a different
1023
01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:24.960
personality and things would look different.
You know. She just has a very
1024
01:08:25.319 --> 01:08:29.960
She's been raised by an analytical scientist. She's thinking analytical scientist. Yeah,
1025
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:32.600
like that's you know, She's like, I will experience this now, okay.
1026
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:36.079
And I was trying to think,
like if I went through like if
1027
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:39.279
I was going through something, I
mean, it's hard to take that away,
1028
01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:41.800
right I have. All I have
is the experiences of my life.
1029
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:44.520
But I'm like, I don't know
if my personality would be that way.
1030
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:46.800
I think I'll just go in and
I would probably end up being a like
1031
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:50.119
way worse because I just I would
go through the same thing, but without
1032
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:56.000
Pam's head. What would you would
you do about why? I well,
1033
01:08:56.239 --> 01:09:00.760
I mean would you know about that? It'd be very interesting. Or if
1034
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.079
I had a baby and then became
my baby and then it was your baby,
1035
01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:05.600
but you wouldn't know being your baby, right, but I wouldn't know
1036
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:09.279
that I was my baby. I
would just be a baby. It would
1037
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:13.720
be your body. Are you your
mom? You're I think you're your brain
1038
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:17.319
first? So Hi, I am
jen, I'm my brain. You're your
1039
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:21.319
brain first? Yeah, I think
my brain is female. I do want
1040
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:25.920
to like touch on in Paris.
I think this is when she meets to
1041
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:30.319
me. I think one of the
most important relationships. She meets Tonette,
1042
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:36.399
another sex worker at the brothel and
just their conversations together. I think it's
1043
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:43.760
just really lovely to see this sort
of pure female like sisterhood and respect.
1044
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:45.800
And also they were a little bye
together, which is yeah, they get
1045
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:50.479
to like they enjoy each other's behead
kind of like the only good they're having
1046
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:56.720
inside. From the priest, it
was handsome. That priest was hot.
1047
01:09:56.800 --> 01:10:00.359
If Fleabag has taught us anything,
oh my god, it's about time for
1048
01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:04.720
a rewatch sleep. It's been a
couple of years that I'm pretty sorry that
1049
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:10.279
show was one. I remember you
twenty nineteen. I think remember those shows
1050
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:14.000
that just like make your like loins
boil a little bit, like you're just
1051
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:16.159
like, you know when they never
actually have sex, but you're like,
1052
01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:21.560
no, but you're all in she
boiling, she boiling hard, boiling the
1053
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:29.760
right term, boiling hard. That's
when we talk about their bodies. There's
1054
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:34.039
only so many shows that do that. Started with friends, Okay, it
1055
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:41.479
ended started with friends. Were thinking
about shows growing up and make your friends
1056
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:44.800
does not do it for me.
It did as a kid for Wool with
1057
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.399
Ross and Rachel Ship that definitely got
me going the mustache. That's an old
1058
01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:59.399
days Reynolds oh he doesn't. Yeah, Tom, I watched Okay, just
1059
01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:04.439
that because that's my only friend's character. That's character. I said something really
1060
01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:08.479
funny and comparing it to a boil, and I don't think you were listening
1061
01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:15.880
to me, and hurts my feelings. It was one hundred percent. And
1062
01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.560
I'm not just doing this for you. Thank you. No, I think
1063
01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:24.479
you need to overreact because it hurt
my feelings. I said aside, a
1064
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:30.880
little aside, funny, actively reacting, thank you. I said a silly
1065
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:43.640
thing, and nobody paid attention.
It's fun about friends. Yeah, it's
1066
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:48.239
not for you, this is this
is my well. I think it's also
1067
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:56.840
part of like you know, in
a moment line. Nobody paid attention,
1068
01:11:56.960 --> 01:12:00.720
so I had to bring it back
around and the audience would have missed that.
1069
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:02.680
And the audience has heard this three
times because I kept saying it because
1070
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:10.000
this is funny. We missed all
three times. This is really hope that
1071
01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:15.760
they just laughed through the whole thing. Adhd ignoring Valerie and I'm like her
1072
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:18.119
own thoughts tracks. Oh my god, I'm dying. I have to bring
1073
01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:24.520
it. Okay, wonderment, wonderful
love, it works. Yes, what
1074
01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:27.560
I really liked about is a different
way of growing up. Is because it's
1075
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:30.880
like it was a job and her
kind of having to realize, like sometimes
1076
01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:34.039
to get what you want, you
have to do things you don't want to
1077
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:41.520
want do a pleasurable things that are
you know, And like that was really
1078
01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:43.800
I think a big way of her
growing up. Yeah, I didn't think
1079
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:46.079
about that was having to have a
job. Work, Yeah, that's work,
1080
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:49.960
and her realizing like it's always because
she tried to kind of fight it.
1081
01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:53.800
She tried to kind of change it
to make it more to what she
1082
01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:57.000
wanted, and it didn't work.
And I think that's a big part of
1083
01:12:57.039 --> 01:12:59.640
growing up that was for her.
Yeah, Yeah, And I love them,
1084
01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:01.239
Yeah, and I love that,
Like she takes this time, like
1085
01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:05.600
she and Toynette go to like socialist
meetings, they go to like lectures of
1086
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:10.720
surgeries, so she's like watching,
so she's like kind of getting this interest
1087
01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:14.000
in medical studies. And I think
that's a little bit of her missing home,
1088
01:13:14.279 --> 01:13:15.760
her missing home. I was seeing
it that way, like she's very
1089
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:20.920
much like feeling a little like sad
and missing home a little bit. Yeah,
1090
01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:25.600
And Wedderburn keeps popping up on these
outings and being like why are you
1091
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:30.239
fucking other men and makes me sad
when you do that, shows up at
1092
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:34.399
that mark. So funny. You
guys, you've seen all of it in
1093
01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:42.319
the You've seen like, oh why, but I cannot tell you. That's
1094
01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:45.920
just one little piece, Like it
is magical. He's so good. Oh
1095
01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:50.560
man, Marcus Ruffalus, What a
little Marcus and Rufalus. I love him.
1096
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:54.439
I just see. I want to
put him in my pocket. And
1097
01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:58.199
then he goes to an insalis inanes. It drives him insane. Literally,
1098
01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:00.920
she drives him insane. Love that
for her, and I love that she's
1099
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:03.720
don't her money that happens. I
feel like it's so he stole her money
1100
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:09.279
and then stalked. Yeah. Yeah, he's the bad guy. And if
1101
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:13.000
you just exist confidently in your own
skin, men will just go crazy.
1102
01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:16.079
This is just fuck them and them. Yeah. I think it's amazing because,
1103
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:23.880
like I feel like most narration or
story around a woman driving a man
1104
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:29.600
crazy is always about some woman that's
actively fucking with a man. Like there's
1105
01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:38.800
so about this right, It's like
where it's dangerously It's always like On which
1106
01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:40.439
is going to be at the Alamo
and I want to go see it.
1107
01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:44.560
I love that movie. But there's
always like this thing right, like the
1108
01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:46.680
woman is or like and men talk
about it. Even now, you hear
1109
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:50.520
men talk about women and like she's
just manipulated, she's just fucking with you,
1110
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:54.279
She's you know what I mean,
Like there's this idea where women are
1111
01:14:54.399 --> 01:15:00.159
like purposely trying to ruin your life. So thank you. It is so
1112
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:04.760
through our entire fucking culture that like
crazy women are either coming to like ruin
1113
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:10.439
your life or like cau drama,
take your money, do anything. And
1114
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:14.239
here it is just a woman existing
and it drives a man crazy. And
1115
01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:17.199
I loved that. I loved it
because it was the most pure mm hmm.
1116
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:21.680
It just like reminded me like how
many men say that this woman ruined
1117
01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:26.600
your life? And it's like maybe
she just existed, maybe her existing,
1118
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:30.079
maybe her just like not giving a
ship about your dumb little feelings. That
1119
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:34.239
just got you. I saw that
got you in the character. It's so
1120
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:39.199
good, it's just so true.
Men, you should probably be rethinking.
1121
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:43.000
Maybe take a look in the mirror
for once. Okay, that's all.
1122
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:45.760
Yeah, maybe just like introt,
maybe stop blaming women for all of your
1123
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:53.399
problems. Yeah what then who are
they going to blame them, Mallory,
1124
01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:06.039
we're back and we're back. Yeah, yes, thank you. We'd a
1125
01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:09.680
little bit of a sound thing,
but Nick's gonna help us. And if
1126
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:13.439
he didn't, I hope you're all
in and threw it across the room.
1127
01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:19.720
And then how much women get blamed
for men. This is what happens when
1128
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:25.920
you do an audio media with no
visual context. Yeah, but anyway,
1129
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:29.520
we're back. Oh, by the
way, God has cancer. Oh yeah,
1130
01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:32.880
we forgot about this. Yeah,
pass me here if you don't mind.
1131
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:39.319
God has cancer. And we we
really find that out right when she's
1132
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:44.520
in Paris, because he asks for
help from Max to find her. Yeah,
1133
01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:46.439
and he's like, I'm not gonna
make it. She gotta come home.
1134
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:48.840
So then he sends a letter like
I'm sick, I'm dying. And
1135
01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:55.800
also, this whole time she's been
sending him letters, how adorable her little
1136
01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:59.520
postcards work, Yeah, with pictures, And he's like, we're fucking it's
1137
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:03.239
great yet fuckings really fun. Yeah, I love it. And it's such
1138
01:17:03.279 --> 01:17:06.239
a I mean, it's kind of
like a prayer right where she's like talking
1139
01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:10.079
to God and being like, hey, like I'm fucking and I feel good
1140
01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:12.039
about it. And this is great, and he's like sort of like I
1141
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:15.159
like that for you. Yeah,
it's such a lovely moment. And it's
1142
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:18.640
all one directional, like he doesn't
really write her back because she's gonna move.
1143
01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:21.640
She's moving around. Yeah, so
it's just like him staying in touch
1144
01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:26.640
with her and being like ah,
and then she obviously goes off off like
1145
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:29.119
she you know what I mean.
He doesn't know where she is anymore.
1146
01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:31.600
She hasn't sent much. She's sent
a couple of postcards. Like, He's
1147
01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:35.000
like, I don't understand where she
is or what's going on. I just
1148
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:43.520
remember that Max visits Mark when yes, but when uh, I don't know
1149
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:50.640
why I'm Max. When then when
they're doing the marriage and the getting the
1150
01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:55.000
marriage arrangement, he's like, aren't
you attracted to Bella? He's talking to
1151
01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:58.880
God and he's like, yeah,
but I can't. Yeah, he said
1152
01:17:58.920 --> 01:18:03.000
something about it. I recognize that
she's beautiful, but I don't have sexual
1153
01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:08.439
Yeah, like he doesn't have the
ability to have his father. He's definitely
1154
01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:12.479
a sex e to nerds. And
yeah, he's like, don't worry,
1155
01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:16.239
I can't and wouldn't. So that's
kind basically, it's like because it's not
1156
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:21.479
quite a fatherly relate, fatherly related
he knows she's yeah, because you don't
1157
01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:26.800
have the hook up, the hookups, the hang ups of like being like,
1158
01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:29.960
oh God, I don't need to
know about you're sick. You're right.
1159
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:32.920
He's very much like, this is
a woman growing into her own and
1160
01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:36.359
he's because he's such a scientist.
In the long run, he's very much
1161
01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:41.239
a scientist, I think. I
think also in the long run he recognizes
1162
01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:44.000
that she's special and he loves her
in his own way, but he's still
1163
01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:53.760
a scientist. I love Max going
to visit Wedderburn in the insane asylum.
1164
01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.840
Good old got that part. Yeah, I totally forgot. Yeah, please
1165
01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:00.199
tell me about that part because I
forgot. Well it's funny because I think
1166
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:03.199
I went to the bathroom during the
Constantinople part. So I love this for
1167
01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:05.039
both of us, Ye that we
were there for. We all had a
1168
01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:10.640
moment. So Max goes on a
mission to find her and he goes to
1169
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:14.159
visit Wedderburn because he's in this insane
asylum and he's like, this guy has
1170
01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:16.439
somebody has to know where this fucking
girl is because we don't know. She's
1171
01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:19.880
like disappeared and so I mean,
they might get postcards, but it doesn't
1172
01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:24.119
have any information. Just said Paris. Just like here I am, and
1173
01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:29.079
he's in an insane asylum in Paris, I believe. So Max goes out
1174
01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:31.880
there and he finds him and he
visits him, and he basically is just
1175
01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:35.800
like, she's the devil incarnate and
is like ruined everything in the world and
1176
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:42.840
just like but he's like actually believing
this woman because he's gone so crazy that
1177
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:46.319
he really believes that she is actually
evil. Couldn't get one up on her
1178
01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:51.680
and control her and all. It's
funny because it really actually made him crazy,
1179
01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:57.520
Like he truly starts to believe she
is the devil. He finally believes
1180
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:01.239
that she's like like destroying men or
whatever. It was incredible to me.
1181
01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:03.920
I was like, wow, movie
is not really a comedy, but it
1182
01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:09.159
is just delightful. It's just delightful. It's kind of a comedy comedy.
1183
01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:13.000
Oh yeah, for sure, you
would call it dark comedy. It's a
1184
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:16.680
silly goose ter comedy comedy. You
can't have eggs, yeah, you can't.
1185
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:20.960
You can't have a Yes, you
can't have a chicken with a dog
1186
01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:28.439
head bulldog head without a science that's
just that's innovation. She can't have a
1187
01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:33.399
man, can have a man?
Happer laid eggs? Like what are we
1188
01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:39.039
like? What do we do?
I would love to have a dog chicken
1189
01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:44.359
a dog, how muney save on
eggs? I would love it like Sheila.
1190
01:20:44.680 --> 01:20:45.760
Sheila was a dog, but she
laid eggs. We could eat the
1191
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:49.960
eggs like chicken eggs, baby,
like half puppy have eggs. No the
1192
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:54.279
b eggs because it's a chicken body, the body, the chicken, just
1193
01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:57.119
the heads that dog, it would
just be chicken eggs. Yea. With
1194
01:20:57.239 --> 01:21:01.199
about guys, that's a science.
I guess, I guess we need to
1195
01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:08.279
do some experiments. I am not
going to put dog hands on chicken bodies.
1196
01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:13.319
That's not I can't. That sounds
cruel. I can't. I can't
1197
01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:15.199
do it. I don't condone it. I would only agree to it if
1198
01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:18.000
it's already been done. But if
it's happened and like you figured it out
1199
01:21:18.039 --> 01:21:24.159
in a nice way, I would
take a chicken dog literally impossible to figure
1200
01:21:24.199 --> 01:21:26.199
out in a nice way, which
is so sad. If we could just
1201
01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:32.039
nicely science, please just get some
ethical sum Can we just gently discover things?
1202
01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:38.680
If I could just accidentally have a
chicken dog born naturally because the chicken
1203
01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:44.239
and the dog wanted to find if
I just not a situation. I wanted
1204
01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:46.039
to do it, and then it
made a centaur chicken dog. Look,
1205
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:49.439
we're getting smaller and scared. Her
voices like, I don't condone it,
1206
01:21:49.479 --> 01:21:55.680
but if it happened, I just
come for geez. I'm very much enjoying
1207
01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:58.880
this. Okay, Okay, So
Max, so God is dying and has
1208
01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:01.960
cancer. She comes, she comes
home and she's she's adult. Now,
1209
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:08.560
like this the scene that she has
with God when she is fully realized,
1210
01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:13.479
she's realized her like her body,
mind and soul have like developed. We're
1211
01:22:13.560 --> 01:22:16.159
in the love section of the Pray
Love now, yeah, we really are,
1212
01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:20.119
right, Like this is what section
was actually Paris? Right? No,
1213
01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:23.920
that was that was pray because now
we've got a fourth section. Right.
1214
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:30.239
No, So she eight in Portugal, she go to Paris. She
1215
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:33.680
prays on the boat. Oh I
actually thought the boat to the boat in
1216
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:36.479
Paris are kind of combined. Okay, that's just how I see it.
1217
01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:43.039
That doesn't mean that's that's not correct. I see because she continues her intellectual
1218
01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:46.840
pursuits in Paris. It just feels
like and I feel like as a as
1219
01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:53.640
a sex worker, she's also like
in that space of like learning and developing,
1220
01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:56.159
and then I feel like she comes
home and it's love. Now there's
1221
01:22:56.279 --> 01:23:00.399
also that third ex stress that happens, but even in that, I think
1222
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:02.640
that's her being in love. And
I think that the love is her love
1223
01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:06.279
of herself in the self realized space, which I don't think she could have
1224
01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:11.560
gotten to without all of that until
then when she's like truly evolved. Ye.
1225
01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:15.199
So now eat could have also involved
the sex, but I think of
1226
01:23:15.279 --> 01:23:20.640
it as like body mind soul,
and then she's once those together that happens
1227
01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:25.319
at the end, she's a full
gun and then she comes back to Yeah.
1228
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:29.680
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. She did body mind and then
1229
01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:32.520
soul. Yeah. Now the body
was pulled in in Paris, but that's
1230
01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:35.800
always a part of it, but
that was partly just her mind. Yeah,
1231
01:23:36.199 --> 01:23:41.279
like really being intellectual and like learning
and how those things are connected.
1232
01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:44.000
Yeah, and then the soul is
the end, which is love. I
1233
01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:47.079
prey left, but yeah, we
did it. We agree. You're welcome
1234
01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:56.399
Elizabeth Gilbert for making you relevant again, and Julia Roberts for a movie Roberts.
1235
01:23:56.920 --> 01:23:59.479
I did love that book, but
I didn't. Oh, did you
1236
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:02.119
watch it? I didn't watch you
you would know, you would definitely know
1237
01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:04.960
if you watched it. I think
I just made this isn't I didn't watch
1238
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:08.159
it, but I have a feeling
you would know. It's just like in
1239
01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:10.880
the Zeitgeist, right, It's just
like you know what we're talking about.
1240
01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:14.560
You just you just know, you
just know. Yeah, I love you.
1241
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:23.680
Yeah that was a kiss. I
just got a little kissy love slash
1242
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:29.800
soul I love soul time. But
yeah, So she is talking to God
1243
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:32.920
and like she finds out what she
is and that's the first time, and
1244
01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:38.039
what a wonderful time, like it
needed for her. She needed to go
1245
01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:41.880
through all of this to come home
and realize what she can conceptualize and like
1246
01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:45.479
she wouldn't have been able to handle
it before or understand it. She wouldn't
1247
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.880
understand understood. Did Max tell her? How does she she found the Okay?
1248
01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:55.800
No, that was Max Max?
On the papers? She asks God,
1249
01:24:55.880 --> 01:24:58.640
what's going on in dot shows?
You're right? Shows You're right?
1250
01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:04.039
Yeah, team, between the three
of us, we will remember it was
1251
01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:08.119
a long movie. It was a
long movie, and we've been drinking so
1252
01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:12.920
much coscob you guys, the Cosco
wine is on It was Costco sizes,
1253
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:15.479
And yeah, I was gonna say, this is not a single bottle of
1254
01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:18.520
wine we are getting through. This
is probably two two and a half bottlesy,
1255
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:25.840
she's a girthy baby. How many
ounces it's a big one. It's
1256
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:29.760
it's enough. It's not quite a
magnum, which is what I believe it
1257
01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:32.680
or not. That's what the wine
people call the one point five leaders.
1258
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:35.399
So you're welcome. Yeah, yeah, so we're doing it. We might
1259
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:41.159
almost finish this ship too. We're
killing it anyway. I think it's two
1260
01:25:41.159 --> 01:25:44.399
bottles. So she and Max go
on a nice little walk together, kind
1261
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:48.199
of talking about her adventures and talking
about like all the sex that she's had,
1262
01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:50.640
and he's very okay with it.
He's kind of like, I just
1263
01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:54.239
he said something. What does he
say? It's very nice. It's like
1264
01:25:54.840 --> 01:26:00.159
I he says something basically because like
yeah, And she's like I don't.
1265
01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:02.920
He's like, I don't reset the
relationships you've had. I'm just like jealous
1266
01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:04.800
of the men who just spend time
with you. And she's like, oh,
1267
01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:08.520
well, I charged twenty francs and
he I loved that, and it
1268
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:11.199
seems way too cheap. It seems
very low. You could do more,
1269
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:15.000
probably love that, like you could
get more, and I you know,
1270
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:17.960
the only thing is a very practical
thing that he says, which is like,
1271
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:20.520
we need to make sure that you
get tested. Does he say that
1272
01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:26.479
I do? Do you have any
diseases? Like have you been like and
1273
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:30.000
she was like no, but I
will, And then she does before they
1274
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:31.840
get married. Oh yeah, Yeah. It was a very practical conversation,
1275
01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:36.079
which I really enjoyed because that kind
of communication is so hard to you know,
1276
01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:43.119
recreate in a world of pure talent
and ideals, you know. Yeah,
1277
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:45.760
and they have this conversation where she's
He's kind of like, do you
1278
01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:47.640
still want to marry me? Like
or where are you at? And then
1279
01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:49.880
and she's kind of like, do
you still want to marry me? They
1280
01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:54.960
kind of like it's very practical but
also very romantic. It's a beautiful,
1281
01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:57.840
beautiful proposal. Yeah, And then
walking around a lake, he looks so
1282
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:00.119
sweet and handsome and you can just
tell he he just loves her, like
1283
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:03.560
it's just that, like he just
he really does. And in the beginning
1284
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:06.199
when he first falls in love with
her, earlier in the movie, You're
1285
01:27:06.279 --> 01:27:09.560
like, I don't know, man, I feel like it might be kind
1286
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:13.920
of awkward. But then I start
to realize he's seen her personality this whole
1287
01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:16.199
time. Yeah, and he loves
her more now. Yeah, she's fully
1288
01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:19.680
realized now and he's always been like, this is the kind of woman I
1289
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:23.600
want to be with, the one
that's gloring. I think he also wants
1290
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:28.119
to protect her and care for her, and he feels like he understands her
1291
01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:30.239
in a way that not other people
could, but he does apparently. So
1292
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:33.680
they get we go to the water, and she's so cute in the wedding
1293
01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:40.800
and I love a fucking veil that
he little thing so good I don't remember,
1294
01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:43.920
I'm being honest. She's pulling it
up. It's fine. And it's
1295
01:27:43.960 --> 01:27:46.000
a very small wedding obviously, it's
just like the fur of them's kind of
1296
01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:50.239
like a cage veil. Oh yeah, it's also like a mask almost,
1297
01:27:51.600 --> 01:27:56.439
dude, I remember loved just wedding. Yes, look at this ship,
1298
01:27:56.920 --> 01:28:01.520
the big puffiest as shit. This
is when the sleeves get real puffs ship,
1299
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.000
and so her it's very what do
you call this? The cage veil
1300
01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:11.000
comes all the way down to the
chin and it's very close to the face,
1301
01:28:11.039 --> 01:28:14.319
which I love, and it pulls
back like in a Roocheed way into
1302
01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:17.199
her Like, yeah, it's just
like a piece of tool. It feels
1303
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:20.520
more so. It's guys prediction,
I think this is the twenty twenty four
1304
01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:25.920
our wedding look. Oh my god, I'm probably a so I do too.
1305
01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:28.840
I just don't believe in Like,
one thing I'll say is I don't
1306
01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:31.560
believe in jumping on any band wagons
for your like forever wedding. Yeah,
1307
01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:35.239
make sure it's actually something that you
want, and not just because it's like
1308
01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:39.760
the hip thing, but also a
very talented costume designer came up with this
1309
01:28:39.960 --> 01:28:44.119
gorgeous look, and you're like,
that speaks to my soul. Can I
1310
01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:48.359
just say that her sleeves look like
Chinese the they do. Yeah, yeah,
1311
01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:53.000
for sure, because they're so like
bag but they're also structured like a
1312
01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:57.159
lamps. They I want to put
a I want to put a candle in
1313
01:28:57.239 --> 01:29:00.439
them and light them and send them
into the air. Sorry, but they're
1314
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:03.119
beautiful. I'm not talking shit.
I actually really love them. It's a
1315
01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:06.479
beautiful. But I have to say
that my favorite part of it is the
1316
01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:11.399
how she gets the veil. Yeah, so they pull it across her face,
1317
01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:13.960
not over the top, right,
Cage veils come over the top.
1318
01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:16.920
They pull it across the face,
they pull at it back in a brett,
1319
01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:20.000
and then it hangs down. Yeah. So it's like a cascade.
1320
01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:25.399
Like a cascade. It's so beautiful
and her the flowers are beautiful too,
1321
01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:28.079
And it's just in a little chapel. There's not much to talk. It's
1322
01:29:28.119 --> 01:29:31.279
really just her, Max and God
yeahs and whoever's doing the wedding, right
1323
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:38.760
yea, and the bishop is the
sorry. The dress like all the other
1324
01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:43.720
style of the of the movie,
right, like where you have the transparency
1325
01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:46.119
and the sleeves and the veil,
and then you'll also like the details.
1326
01:29:46.319 --> 01:29:51.039
It's the realization. It's kind of
like a combo combination of like her earlier
1327
01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:55.680
style and then like her like style
going forward. They give her as a
1328
01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:59.359
baby, like her baby dress when
she's in that like white, it's all
1329
01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:01.960
white and and white, and she
only wears white then and now she's in
1330
01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:06.720
white, but it's a fully evolved
version and she's covered but freely covered.
1331
01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:11.359
Does that make sense? She doesn't
look caged in by this but there's still
1332
01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:15.840
like trans like transparent fabric things anyway, So I just think that's interesting because
1333
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:19.000
I was thinking a lot about the
fashion during the movie. I'm sorry,
1334
01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:36.239
it's fine. Waterburn does show up
with but with character name is Blessington.
1335
01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:43.840
Blessington General, right, General Blessington
shows up and objects to the wedding because
1336
01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:48.720
he is what do you want to
it's kind of finish it. He's fine,
1337
01:30:49.279 --> 01:30:54.520
that's whatever, finished with? Well, I wanted I had a thought
1338
01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:58.920
about you had to catch no.
I was jumping ahead because I have ADHD
1339
01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:01.560
and I'm so sorry. So he
comes as the husband. Okay, so
1340
01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:05.119
he's her husband, the woman that
killed her self husband. Yes, the
1341
01:31:05.239 --> 01:31:11.880
o G the o G woman.
My thing with this is how fucked up
1342
01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:17.720
it is that Duncan wetter Burn gets
out of an insane asylum and has like
1343
01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:23.520
a vendetta darks on her. Yeah. I just feel like there's this vendetta
1344
01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:27.840
and this is such a guys.
But she's the devil, that's the thing.
1345
01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:31.680
I feel like that she's like a
woman who's self actualized, who's independent,
1346
01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:39.359
and who just like has to be
destroyed. He doesn't. He wants
1347
01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:42.720
to destroy her, and I feel
it has nothing to do with winning.
1348
01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:46.520
Her kind of has to destroy her
life. Yeah. His character kind of
1349
01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:51.520
speaks to like, do you remember
that scene when the brothel pimp is like
1350
01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:56.119
some men like that, women don't
like it, And I feel like,
1351
01:31:56.439 --> 01:32:01.600
yes, I feel like that.
Another version Duncan is another version of that,
1352
01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:06.880
being like he wants to win on
one level, he wants them to
1353
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:12.800
feel women to feel bad about themselves
when they're when he's doing, and when
1354
01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:16.960
they refuse to he's going to do
the opposite where she just kept feeling better
1355
01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:24.720
because just remembering these lines, you're
nailing it because it's such a such a
1356
01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:30.600
good podcast. Really, some men
like that, women don't like it.
1357
01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:38.319
Yeah, And I feel like Duncan's
character is it's a different different, different
1358
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:41.039
kind of a different version. It's
a different version, but it's the same,
1359
01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:45.920
like if I'm not going to want
from you, like it's yes,
1360
01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:48.720
it's like the he'd be an insult
if he wasn't getting laid, do you
1361
01:32:48.760 --> 01:32:54.000
know what I mean? He was
handsome and charming, so he likes the
1362
01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:57.560
control. He likes the power of
the win, and as soon as that
1363
01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:00.600
it's not being given to him,
he's gonna need to make her not want
1364
01:33:00.680 --> 01:33:04.600
it. He's gonna need to destroy
her because he's not getting what he wants,
1365
01:33:05.159 --> 01:33:08.960
and what he wants has very little
to do with sex. And you
1366
01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:12.680
know what, wait, okay,
sorry, going back to that moment in
1367
01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:15.159
bed when she's like, why don't
people do this all the time and he
1368
01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:17.920
goes huh right and kind of makes
a little face at it. Everyone's seen
1369
01:33:17.960 --> 01:33:24.359
it because that's in the preview.
I feel like that's a moment where he
1370
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:28.600
is like, this isn't about sex
for me. It isn't it never has
1371
01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:31.479
been. It's about it's about bringing
a woman into his world. And like
1372
01:33:32.119 --> 01:33:35.640
he likes that. He likes the
sex, but he likes the I take
1373
01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:40.600
you on these trips and extravagant control
and it's like, yeah, I win
1374
01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:43.359
you with this whole thing, and
I'm done with you. I do think
1375
01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:45.000
tell me a lot about the fucking. For him, he loves to fuck,
1376
01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:48.079
okay. And then like this is
the first person who's made him realize
1377
01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:51.159
like, oh, there's like that
he has some nuance to him that it's
1378
01:33:51.239 --> 01:33:56.920
not like that. There is the
first time he's actualized the fact that it's
1379
01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:59.920
more than the fucking. Yeah,
that it's like the control it always has
1380
01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:03.199
been all he's always never he's never
realized it. Yeah, okay, never
1381
01:34:03.319 --> 01:34:11.560
question. I agree with you.
Consented. The General shows General shows out,
1382
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:15.680
He's like, you have very handsome
and she she could say no at
1383
01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:17.199
this point, she could be like
fuck you get away. And what she
1384
01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:20.479
says is like no, I'm like, can I ask what you think?
1385
01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:25.319
The What she says is like,
I'll go with you, and she I
1386
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:29.000
want to go with him? Yeah, and Max good good to little boy
1387
01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:31.960
just lets her I know, he's
such a sweetheart. He accepts it,
1388
01:34:32.680 --> 01:34:35.600
that it's just something that she needs
to do. And then so she goes
1389
01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:40.439
to the General and her house and
her body's formal house. Former, can
1390
01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:43.560
we ask about this? Do you
think that it is because she recognizes it,
1391
01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:45.600
that it's her mother. I think, and that that's what because we
1392
01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:48.760
never really get to see why she
said that. I think she wants to
1393
01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:51.600
know. She's just curious. She
wanted to explore it, right or something
1394
01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:56.000
is what she said. Yeah,
she's like innately somebody who just can't not
1395
01:34:56.279 --> 01:35:00.319
or yeah. And it turns out
that he is a psychopath, that he
1396
01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:03.920
tortures their servants, and that she
her for her body and her mother were
1397
01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:10.159
complicit in this torture and that they
like it was like some psycho games that
1398
01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:13.479
they would play well. And he
traps her there, yeah, because she
1399
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:17.159
doesn't remember and so he doesn't trust
her or something like that. I just
1400
01:35:17.199 --> 01:35:20.359
remember him being like, you have
to stay here until you remember, however
1401
01:35:20.439 --> 01:35:24.880
long that and Christopher Abbott is so
good? Is this like because he has
1402
01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:28.239
such a sweet face, but then
like for him to be so loved that
1403
01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:32.479
part cruel and control? Yes,
that you like sort of like I mean
1404
01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:34.159
yeah, like you see him at
the wedding, You're like, I want
1405
01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:36.680
to see where this goes too.
Yeah, you know. So she's like,
1406
01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:40.199
yeah, like let's go and we
all go on the journey with her.
1407
01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:42.960
Yeah, we want to know what's
going on here. Yeah. Well,
1408
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:46.000
the closest comparison I can think of
is like if you're adopted and you
1409
01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:50.079
like go to find your adopted parents. Right, It's like obviously not the
1410
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:55.720
same, but like, why didn't
you with your own horror movie you have
1411
01:35:55.920 --> 01:36:00.039
that curiosity about what is this other
part of myself? No, for sure,
1412
01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:04.960
there's like there's a space for that, And I think, like he's
1413
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:09.239
so handsome. It makes sense that
you'd be like I got to know.
1414
01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:13.800
But also it looks like he looked
he and Roby Yusuf kind of look alike
1415
01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.039
similar enough, yes, so that
there is something like oh that he does
1416
01:36:16.159 --> 01:36:19.439
have kind of also has like soft
brown eyes and kind face, but also
1417
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:24.199
is monster. You have to think
that she's smart enough though to recognize like
1418
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:27.199
I tried to kill myself, yeah, or my mother. She says,
1419
01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:29.640
why I have to know why.
I think it's more of the like I
1420
01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:33.119
need to experience curiosity. Yeah,
if I had, you know, if
1421
01:36:33.159 --> 01:36:38.600
you have the chance to live the
life your mother lived before she kill I
1422
01:36:38.640 --> 01:36:41.520
guess I wouldn't want to live the
life. But if I knew my mother
1423
01:36:41.640 --> 01:36:44.560
had had like had gotten to that
point in her life, I would be
1424
01:36:44.760 --> 01:36:46.920
very curious about why to understand why. And it's such a funny moment where
1425
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:51.119
like he brings her to the house
and it's this austere kind of mansion and
1426
01:36:51.199 --> 01:36:55.079
he's like, oh, the servants
have rioted again or they're pushing back,
1427
01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:58.960
so we have to defend ourselves.
Like everything about him is like very militarized,
1428
01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:02.760
very embattled, Like he's always on
on the prowl and ready for a
1429
01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:08.239
fight. And then so they have
a few interactions over dinner where he's very
1430
01:37:08.279 --> 01:37:14.159
controlling, just cruel, and she
keeps pushing back, and he decides that
1431
01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:17.039
he's gonna have her lobotomized. Is
that I thought he was gonna Oh,
1432
01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:20.399
you're right, he's gonna numb her
pussy. No, he's gonna have her
1433
01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:25.720
circumscis. I'm sorry. For some
reason, I can still have babies,
1434
01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:30.199
but he's numbing the sensations and taking
that away from her. I don't know
1435
01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:31.439
why. In my mind I was
like, oh, he like lobotomized,
1436
01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:35.359
But you're no, it's definitely.
I mean, let's be fair, it's
1437
01:37:35.439 --> 01:37:41.199
definitely like a circumcision thing. It
is. It's a circumcision, but it's
1438
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:45.720
but to be fair, it's like
the same for her. Yeah, yeah,
1439
01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:47.800
you're right. For her, it's
the same thing. Just like weird
1440
01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:51.479
Sorry you guys, we're having some
mic trouble with Anna or just keeps staring
1441
01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:59.000
deeply. I'm like, what's happening, thoughts. You're doing a great job
1442
01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:02.880
an old cable. Yeah, but
you're doing really good to make sure it
1443
01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:06.680
stays connected. No, you're doing
You're doing good. It's on right now.
1444
01:38:08.399 --> 01:38:12.079
All right? Just oh guys,
this is how podcast works sometimes,
1445
01:38:12.159 --> 01:38:15.000
you know. It's like, no, just hold on to the bottom.
1446
01:38:15.479 --> 01:38:20.039
You just don't don't move. Almost
done. I will never move again.
1447
01:38:20.079 --> 01:38:24.640
I will never move again. Okay. So anyway, he's gonna have her
1448
01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:27.880
circumcised, which so she poisons him, right, She like you no,
1449
01:38:28.079 --> 01:38:31.279
She shields his gun and shoots him
in the foot. Yeah, I just
1450
01:38:31.359 --> 01:38:35.640
remember that he was gonna poison her. He was gonna he was gonna drug
1451
01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:40.880
her for the procedure, and she
knows, and he knows she knows,
1452
01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:43.960
so he just speaks plainly. Yeah, Like as soon as she knows,
1453
01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:45.800
he's like, just drink this,
like it's gonna be better. Like we
1454
01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:48.720
can't, I can't keep doing this. It's gonna be better. You're gonna
1455
01:38:48.720 --> 01:38:51.439
need to drink this. And you
know that I am more psychopathic than you
1456
01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:54.880
are. It's basically what he says. Yeah, He's like, you know
1457
01:38:55.199 --> 01:38:58.159
that you're gonna have to do this
one way or another. And she's like,
1458
01:38:58.399 --> 01:39:00.439
am I And she likes toils his
gun and shoots him in the foot,
1459
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:04.920
which is wonderful, and then she
takes his bleeding body to her God,
1460
01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:09.920
and she does Yah to God.
I was my favorite part. Well,
1461
01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:15.840
I have a lot of the servants
just helped her out right there.
1462
01:39:17.800 --> 01:39:21.000
And if anything else, she gets
to because she was married to him,
1463
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:25.239
she gets that entire estate, she
gets all that money. I think,
1464
01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:29.600
continue all those servants lives like she
gets like you know what I mean,
1465
01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:32.439
she gets to fix it, yeah, which I love. They don't really
1466
01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:35.119
answer that, but I've thought about
it a lot. Yeah, I didn't
1467
01:39:35.159 --> 01:39:38.800
think about that. I love that
though. But she takes him to God
1468
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:43.119
and then we're in the finale,
I think, God, she looks at
1469
01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:47.399
a goat and she says, huh, and that's all we need to know.
1470
01:39:47.960 --> 01:39:53.439
That her husband becomes a goat head
and then God passes in her with
1471
01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:57.880
her and that was so sweet and
beautiful. So she gets back to that
1472
01:39:58.079 --> 01:40:01.560
and then it's a beautiful moment where
it's her and Max and they're married and
1473
01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:06.119
Toynette is there living with them.
I assume having hot wonderful. Thus,
1474
01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:12.039
I assume, yeah, yeah,
that's what you get for being a good
1475
01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:16.880
support of You get to have sex
with two ladies. Beautiful lady, you
1476
01:40:16.880 --> 01:40:21.880
should be paying attention. But also
maybe some women are into that or yeah,
1477
01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:26.159
I'm just saying, but if you're
no expectation, but if you're a
1478
01:40:26.199 --> 01:40:30.479
good boy. He didn't have any
expectations and he got that while the husband
1479
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:33.319
got to become a man goat.
Yeah, and it's it's such a good
1480
01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:36.840
final scene, like Felicity is there
and she's growing up and like in a
1481
01:40:38.119 --> 01:40:44.000
God's assistant. Yeah, because she's
like following her dream of like like wanting
1482
01:40:44.039 --> 01:40:46.079
to get her education right and yeah, she's going to be a doctor.
1483
01:40:46.640 --> 01:40:49.800
She's taking an exam. Yeah,
because like I don't know if that was
1484
01:40:49.840 --> 01:40:55.039
in the final scene. She like
wanted to help people. Yeah, yeah,
1485
01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:58.840
yeah, no, she wants to
well because we saw her being obsessed
1486
01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:00.760
with it and like you know,
it was that connection to God too.
1487
01:41:00.840 --> 01:41:05.319
I think so when God goes,
I think she wants that connection but also
1488
01:41:05.479 --> 01:41:09.720
her little like she gets to continue
the growth of Felicity, which I love.
1489
01:41:11.039 --> 01:41:14.359
Together, I think this movie is
and they all just sit around reading
1490
01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:17.039
together and chilling ice. Yeah,
it's such a nice paradise, like in
1491
01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:20.800
a garden with their little dog chicken
with their goat. General, what's the
1492
01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:25.000
goose thing? The goose dog?
No, it was a chicken dog.
1493
01:41:25.199 --> 01:41:29.000
Oh, chicken dog and goose do
something something and that is it a goose
1494
01:41:29.079 --> 01:41:33.279
pig. There's a lot of weird
than the human man crawling around us,
1495
01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:39.079
past crawling around and grass because he
has a goat's brain. Yeah, oh
1496
01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:46.560
that gave me such joy. I
was thinking we should go through like our
1497
01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:55.279
reading custard tarts shoveled into your mouth. Give it a pure ten pasties,
1498
01:41:55.439 --> 01:41:59.239
Yeah, pasties donada ten. It's
like, you know, like an ice
1499
01:41:59.239 --> 01:42:02.239
skating, how they couldn't do the
perfect ten and so they would do like
1500
01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:06.359
nine point. It's like, because
no one can be perfect. So but
1501
01:42:06.479 --> 01:42:12.119
I want to I want to say, I'll just say ten. It's what
1502
01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:15.640
a lot of movies can be.
Ten. I believe that. I say
1503
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:21.840
eleven two they did extra credit.
I'm not saying it's my most favorite movie
1504
01:42:21.880 --> 01:42:25.039
of all time, but I am
saying it's in my top five. Yeah,
1505
01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:28.760
so we're talking like thoroughly enjoyed it. It was the best movie of
1506
01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:32.079
twenty twenty three for sure. And
that was like I loved I loved twenty
1507
01:42:32.119 --> 01:42:34.359
twenty three movies. It was so
good. I actually have to say the
1508
01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:39.439
last two years of movies too.
I really like movie I watched lately,
1509
01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:42.399
I have not had a ship movie. Like I haven't seen a bad movie
1510
01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:45.159
in the last two years. I've
seen some that are whatever, but like
1511
01:42:45.359 --> 01:42:48.000
we've had good you guys, movies
have gone better because this is the moment
1512
01:42:48.039 --> 01:42:51.520
to push people to go to the
movies, go to the cinemas. I'm
1513
01:42:51.560 --> 01:42:57.560
not like being paid by big movie
here like I wish I would. I
1514
01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.880
would love the opportunity to sell out
a little bit. We all have like
1515
01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:03.239
movie pass go on, Joe Rogan, sell me out. Let's do the
1516
01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:06.279
ship now. But I all have
movie passes so that we get a deal
1517
01:43:06.359 --> 01:43:10.840
on it. But like, but
no, it's so good, Like you
1518
01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:14.600
gotta go to the movies. It's
it's even if you pay for your tickets.
1519
01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:17.840
Twelve fifty I was going out for
dinner. I would see poor things
1520
01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:21.439
in the theater. I would suggest
that just because it is so visually and
1521
01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:26.439
we're also interesting. Yeah, people
A lot of people who are like I
1522
01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:29.880
just watch TV, like I like
a long form, or like I should
1523
01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:31.680
mostly just do YouTube, like I
kind of like all of it. But
1524
01:43:31.760 --> 01:43:34.159
I love a good movie. I
love movies. If you love movies,
1525
01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:39.399
I will good time all of my
ADHD pals out there, all of our
1526
01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:43.319
ADHD pals. I find going to
the movies the only way I can watch
1527
01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:46.920
a movie. Yea, so I
really I have to be at the movie
1528
01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:50.640
at home. I will not last
a whole movie. Jad and I just
1529
01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:55.239
watched The Lord of the Rings movie
in theaters and like, I realized,
1530
01:43:55.319 --> 01:43:57.520
I've been I mean, that movie
is like twenty years old. I saw
1531
01:43:57.560 --> 01:44:01.239
it once years when I was the
day I watched one of them. Almost
1532
01:44:01.359 --> 01:44:04.800
annually, I've kind of watched the
like extended version, and I'm like,
1533
01:44:04.880 --> 01:44:08.560
it's been great, But this is
like the extended cut in theaters and it's
1534
01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:12.239
the first time that I like really
watched that movie in twenty years. That's
1535
01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:15.199
amazing. Where I'm like not looking
at my phone. I'm first one,
1536
01:44:15.319 --> 01:44:17.199
the first one. Yeah, I
was like, they're doing all is such
1537
01:44:17.239 --> 01:44:20.560
a good movie. I was doing
like one at a time, the extended
1538
01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:24.680
cuts fun. I really wanted to
go to the extent because I've never wanted
1539
01:44:24.680 --> 01:44:27.319
to look at the extended cut in
theaters. Comment. I just like,
1540
01:44:27.479 --> 01:44:30.640
yeah, just really being in it. Yeah, I love a good I
1541
01:44:30.680 --> 01:44:35.439
think that's the only way a little
adhday like brain can do it. Oh,
1542
01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:40.479
but the third movies The Aragon.
Yeah, you guys, we love
1543
01:44:40.560 --> 01:44:43.560
the movie. Anyways, go to
the movies. I love it. I
1544
01:44:43.640 --> 01:44:51.960
love the theatre and crowing and women
and the women and sex and masturbating,
1545
01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:59.760
masturbation and and I do, I
do, and I fucking do masturbation and
1546
01:44:59.880 --> 01:45:03.640
I jims just to that.