Witchcraft vs Christianity: Pastor & Warlock Debate (EP 014)

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Could you do witchcraft on me to cause something to happen?
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Of course.
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Do it.
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Why?
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I want to see if happens.
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What would I do?
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Anything you want.
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I come from Christianity.
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You know, born and raised.
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You were born and raised in the church.
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Yeah, heavy.
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Like evangelical, can't leave the house without reading the Bible.
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I was homeschooled.
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When you were in the church, did you ever experience supernatural things?
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Like never.
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Only in my head.
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Unfortunately, in the church, there's a lot of that fake stuff going on.
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I used to pray my butt off for things, and it doesn't happen.
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I didn't drink till I was 30.
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I was a virgin till I was 21.
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When I was always helping the neighbors and doing all the Christian-like things, why would I want to deal with it?
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You're the first Christian that, like, it seems like you're not scared.
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You're not afraid.
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You don't have a fear to talk to me.
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But most of you guys are really scared.
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Like, y'all think everything is a demon.
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This person has the demon of Jezebel.
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Jezebel, yeah.
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There's no such thing.
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You know how many times I've cast that demon out?
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Why did you just shake?
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No, I get chills all the time when they talk to me.
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I cast out demons.
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I would challenge you.
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I'd say, if I put a demon somewhere, you take it out.
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I would love to.
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This man, we're gonna be we're gonna be friends for a long time.
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I leave my body all the time.
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Astro projecting.
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Yeah.
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But like intentionally.
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I could sit here and go into a trance and then go somewhere else.
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Yeah, go somewhere and do some things and come back.
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I never see Jesus on the way.
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I see a lot of things, but never Jesus.
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I'm gonna start praying that you do.
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If I see him, it's gonna be a problem.
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If you do and you realize he's the highest power, would you repent and come to Christ?
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No, I still gotta be for him.
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I'm staying on my side.
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I'm bigger than the Holy Ghost.
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It's like if Jesus walked in the room and said, I'm Jesus, and he came out, I'd be like, damn, you're real.
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Yeah.
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Now get out of my face and slap the crap out of me.
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He is my enemy if he exists.
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I believe and I know you're not his enemy because of hurt.
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You've been hardening your heart for a minute.
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Okay.
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He loves you, bro.
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You wanna know what I believe?
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Yeah, yeah.
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I believe.
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Man, you're gonna get saved, filled with the Holy Spirit, and your testimony is gonna break a lot of chains, bro.
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That would be crazy.
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Come back.
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I'm coming.
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I'm coming Sunday.
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Bro, you come this Sunday?
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There Sunday?
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Yes, bro.
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I'm coming this Sunday.
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Would you come back here?
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Oh, I'm gonna come back.
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Yeah.
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I need to see more and I need to feel more.
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Before you watch this, I need you to hear my heart.
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The man you're about to watch is a warlock, and his name is Mark.
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You're gonna hear him explain what he believes in, what he practices, all in his own words.
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I don't agree with any of it, and I'm not promoting it.
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So why sit down with him?
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Because Jesus sat down with people that the religious crowd wouldn't even touch.
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You can't reach somebody you refuse to talk to.
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Don't watch this to pick up what he practices.
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Watch to see how the love of God talks to a man that the church usually runs from.
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And stay to the end because this conversation is not the end of the story.
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What's going on, family?
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Welcome to Let's Chop It Up.
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I have a very special guest.
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Somebody I've actually known for I'd say almost a year now, on and off.
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We'd see each other downtown Orlando.
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He works at a club called Eden, body uh security, body, bodyguard security, just bouncer.
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And um, man, just cool dude since we met.
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Just been, you know, just good vibes, good dude.
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And um, you know, he believes in something different than what I believe in, but we kind of have some similarities in certain areas.
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He actually was the one that recommended a podcast about a year ago, you know, and we started texting, and now we're finally here.
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So I have my friend, my brother, Mark Fox, man.
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What's up, my brother?
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What's going on, man?
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What's up, man?
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It's been a long time coming.
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Facts, man.
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It's like crazy that it just came together.
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Bro, like, you know, it was it was a year ago, right?
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When we were on Washington.
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Literally, yeah.
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Well, for me, it started earlier.
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I had seen a video of you going into a shop somewhere in Orlando, and I was like, What's this guy going into a voodoo shop?
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And I was like, Oh, this is crazy.
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Like, I never seen content like that.
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So then I was like, okay, whatever.
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Pass it by.
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Then it pops up again.
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Now I'm over here.
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Now I'm over here, now I'm over here.
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And I'm like, yo, I need to I need to meet this guy.
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And I said it out loud.
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I said, one day I'm gonna meet him.
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But I didn't even know where you were like located or where you're from, nothing.
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And then maybe eight months after that, I'm walking down the street and I see a flyer, and it's like revival, and I'm like, what the heck?
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And then literally, I'm like, okay, maybe I should take off work and go there.
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Guess where it is?
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Right next door at Wall Street, bro.
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And then I talked to one of your people, and then you remember, and you I said, da-da-da.
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And I try to like set the seed.
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I was like, I need to find him.
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And then you came pulling up on me and it was like, wait, hold up.
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Like you were looking for me, and I was like, yo, and then it began from there.
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It was like it was smooth, bro.
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Cause I remember we were having the revival with uh the semi truck.
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And when one of the guys came, he's like, yo, this warlock or witch like wants to talk to you, and it's like, and he was like a little like and I'm like, bro, okay, where are they at?
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Like, yeah, it's all good, let's talk.
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And then it was just like we dabbed each other up, and you were like, yo, I seen your content.
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It was smooth.
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It was it was Yeah, definitely, definitely.
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I mean, I feel like there's a big divide between our worlds, Christian versus occult, whatever you want to call it, witchcraft.
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I say witch because it's easy for everyone to understand.
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To understand, yeah.
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But African traditions, non-Christian traditions, yeah, it's like they don't want to talk to each other.
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It's like, and it's I think it's based on fear.
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Fear is a big thing.
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Yep.
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Fear from the Christian side that we're evil and we're gonna do bad things to you.
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And then from the occult side, well, they're just gonna say we're going to hell, which is what you guys are gonna say.
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But it's I respect that it's that's your game.
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Yeah, that's your that's your world.
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So we have to respect that it's like it's two teams, and there's gonna be that turmoil.
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You know what I mean?
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And it's like someone's gotta be able to break that divide, and we can do that.
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You know what I mean?
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Because it's like I understand because I come from Christianity, you know, born and raised.
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And then you were born and raised in the church, yeah, heavy, like evangelical, can't leave the house without reading the Bible.
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I was homeschooled.
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It was like for real.
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I was thought I was gonna be a preacher.
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Are you Puerto Rican or Dominican?
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I'm black.
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You're full black?
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Yeah.
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You look you look you look Dominican, right?
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That's what I want to say.
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So you're full black, like from Orlando?
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Mm-hmm.
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In Connecticut, I'm really black, but then when I come to Florida, I'm like light-skinned down here.
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So you were you were born in Connecticut?
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Yeah, I was born in Connecticut.
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Okay, and there's a lot, there's a lot of Puerto Ricans out there too.
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Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, I'm just black.
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I mean, my family's kind of like mixed kind of like lighter skin tones and stuff, but yeah, yeah, I just say I'm black.
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Okay, so you your parents like Pentecostal or evangelical?
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Evangelical.
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Evangelical.
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Yeah.
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So they were like real strict and stuff like that.
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Real strict, like can't listen to this worldly music, can't wear those clothes.
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Like I used to be a bodybuilder, and I had to sneak to go do my first bodybuilding competition because you know, you wear the little bikini.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And they were like, That's you're making people lust after you, it's a sin.
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Yeah.
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So I literally said, like, well, I'm training my friends because I was a trainer.
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And then I went to the show and I worked at a job.
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My mom went to the job to pick up my check, and my boss was like, How do you do at the show?
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And she's like, What are you talking about?
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So I came home, I put all my stuff in my friend's house down the street, went to my house.
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My parents were sitting there like, Did you win?
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I was like, Win what?
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What are you talking about?
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She was like, Stop lying, go back, get the trophy.
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I won't and they were just that strict.
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Wow.
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Like, so you would you say you were like raised in religion?
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Like, kind of like not religion, more.
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We were more Bible-based for sure.
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Yeah, like they believed in the scriptures.
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Like, what's the Bible say now what the church says?
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Yeah, you know what I mean?
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So like they would they raised you in the way you should go, type of thing.
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Exactly.
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And like you would say that were your parents loving?
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Oh, yeah.
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And then did they really like walk it out?
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Like what they read, they really No, it was like my mother didn't even wear pants.
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You know what I mean?
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So they were like super modest.
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Yeah, like I was literally homeschooled, like for real, just because of Christianity.
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You know, like I was homeschooled for half of my schooling, like middle school, high school, but my other brother and sisters like all the school because it was just the age when they decided to do the homeschooling.
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But it was like I was in Bible study three times a week.
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You know, I loved it at the time.
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I thought this was the way to go.
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I was like, I'm gonna become a pastor, I'm gonna run my own church.
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That was where I was headed, but I always had an interest in different things.
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I was like ghosts, that's what I was just thinking about, paranormal, and then that led me down a journey to where I am today.
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Wow, and like when you were in the church, did you ever experience supernatural things?
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Like never.
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Only in my head.
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Wow, so you've never seen like a miracle deliverance?
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Yeah, of course, yeah.
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Like a miracle like within the church, like a like a deliverance, like casting out.
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Oh, yeah, I've seen that, yeah.
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Like in like in front of you, like someone get delivered from a demon.
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Yeah.
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Like now, like the But I mean like literally demon comes out of you and goes grab that person out there in the leg.
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Yeah.
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Well, and you've seen like a miracle healing or something like that.
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I've seen the healings, but I don't know if I really seen the healing.
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Okay.
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If I were to be honest, yeah.
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I think I believed in something that I saw, but I didn't really see what I saw.
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You didn't see it like a hundred percent.
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You know what I mean?
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Like I don't think it was real.
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I think I was under the influence.
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You know, I was drunk off Christianity.
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At that time, I was intoxicated with the Lord.
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And it's like I think that's how I got to where I am today.
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Because I could see if you read the Bible, yeah, it's a different story.
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You know, if you listen to the pastor, it's a different story.
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If you listen to yourself, you're confused.
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Because now you're like, who do I listen to?
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Because you don't know it.
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It's in you, it's not in you from birth to just follow.
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You know what I mean?
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So I believed in taking out spirits, deliverance, yeah.
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Healing people, miracles, whatever you want to call it, still do today.
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I just don't believe it's the same same way, the same energy making it happen.
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Wow.
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And like with the miracle healings, like, why do you say like you you think you like you you don't you don't believe you saw them, but you saw them?
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Like I saw what the church does on stage.
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You know, I could see Spider-Man fly across, I didn't really see a man fly across the building.
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You know, I just saw what they showed me.
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And I think a lot of that's fake.
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So you'd like to especially today.
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So, like in front of you, like did you ever see someone like come with like an ailment or something going on, get prayed for, and then legit be like, yo, I let's say, for example, can't hear and now they can hear.
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I can't see if they can hear or not, so I don't know if it's true.
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So you don't know if it was true.
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Right, I don't believe it because they're listening to the pastor the whole time.
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Why are they sitting in church deaf?
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Wow.
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If they can't hear, why are they in church?
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Wow.
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There's no sign language, you know what I mean?
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You gotta if they're if they tell you someone died, you gotta find the body.
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And in church, they tell you, oh, we're gonna heal you, but it's always the same healing.
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Something I can't really tangibly experience.
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I I my leg hurts right now, but you don't know if my leg hurts.
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My back hurts, but you don't know.
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I can just say that.
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And I think unfortunately in the church, yeah, in the religion side, as you call it, there's a lot of that fake stuff going on.
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Like in the religion side.
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Yeah, that's I'll I'll I'll for the conversation I'll I'll subscribe to that.
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I think um because this whole thing is not how can I say it?
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God doesn't need the spokesperson, but the church becomes that.
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The the pulpit becomes the microphone for me.
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If I get on the mic, I can tell you, brother, you need Jesus.
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I feel you, I can make you feel that experience, and that's all they do.
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It's just an emotional controlled system, you know.
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And then that plate comes after, drop that money.
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Yeah, you know, I don't even mind dropping the money.
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That was the least problem I had with the church.
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My problem because you have to get paid if you're doing something.
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I believe you should be supported if you're helping people, you know.
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Same thing like I do.
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I do spiritual work for people, I get paid.
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Yeah, work is worthy of his wages.
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Yeah, and if you have more people, you make more money.
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It's just if you're doing what you are doing, it's just is it what you're really doing?
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Yeah, is it the truth?
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Is it really what you say God?
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I say it's you.
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Wow.
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You have your option.
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You ever seen any videos where I where I pray for people and they get healed?
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Oh, yeah.
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What do you think?
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I'm gonna react to some of those videos.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Do you do you think they're real or no?
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You think they're all fake?
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I don't think they're all fake.
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I think it's I'm gonna say this honestly, I don't think it's who do you say it is?
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Wow.
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So healing them.
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Who do you say it is healing them?
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Who do you think?
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No, I'm asking you, who do you think?
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Oh, who do I like Yeah, like when you go, I saw a video just recently, you just started popping out those videos lately, I think.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm a subscriber.
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And yeah, you heal somebody, but who who healed them?
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You saw like the guy with the the Catholic priests or whatever?
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You saw that one?
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You know which one I saw just yesterday, I saw the guy with the brick.
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The outlets.
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Yeah, yeah, bro.
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Like it was a guy, he was we were we were actually, it was on live stream.
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So like Oh, it was live stream.
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The whole thing was live streaming.
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Really?
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I saw it like after, I think.
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Like we stayed we had chopped up a reel, but like it was all like premium outlets.
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We actually got kicked out, they were wilding out, so like we went on the outskirts, and you it was like a worker, and he would come in out by the garbage cans, and then I just it was random.
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I just saw him, I'm like, hey bro, really, bro.
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I don't know, it was a random white guy, like just saw him, like, hey bro, like, and I'm not racist, I just think he was white.
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And then he was walking, and then I saw the brace, and I just felt like the Lord, the Holy Spirit put on my heart, like, right, talk to him, I'm like, yo, bro, like you can get healed.
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And he was kind of like, you know, because he looks at, well, we have a big camera, like he doesn't know.
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And I'm just like, yo, you can get healed, come here.
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And he's like, Well, I had three Catholic priests already pray over me.
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Like, I don't like basically he's he's like, I don't I'm not gonna get healed.
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Right.
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And I'm just like, let me let me try, come here.
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Boom.
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Pray for him.
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Pain goes down to like a two from like a ten.
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And then I prayed again, and he's like, he, and he literally was like, I don't feel it.
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He took off the he's like, I don't, I don't feel it.
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He's like, I had three Catholic priests and the whole congregation, Methodist congregation or something.
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He said, Lutheran or whatever, pray for him.
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I'm like, Well, man, you're healed.
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And he was like, Wow, like I don't know him, never met him in my life.
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Yeah, I believe that part.
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Like, so what do you think that is?
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I I well, who do you think it is?
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Who do I think it is?
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Yeah, how'd you how'd you do that?
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The truth, bro, because I've never done it before.
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Right.
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I really believe that it was the power of the Holy Spirit.
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Right, and I would say that was you.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I believe that we have Ashe.
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I believe that you have the power.
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You are God.
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Wow.
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And I believe like some of us have more than others.
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So someone like you who may be going out and healing people, you just have a lot more Ashe.
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You have there's two options in my mind.
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It's BS or it's you have the power.
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Yeah.
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Because I believe people have the power.
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And I believe that I would say you probably have it because clearly you're doing big things.
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There's something going on.
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But is it this guy that you say, or this spirit or the Holy Spirit or God, is it them, or is it really you and you're just calling it something else?
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Because before I came to Christ, I I mean, I've never, bro, I've never prayed for anybody for healing.
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Right.
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Like I know.
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Well, why would you?
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Yeah, because I didn't I didn't even know I could do that.
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And even coming to Christ, like, I didn't even know I could do that either, like first few years.
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So, like for me, bro, like I started casting out demons because like I wanted to do it.
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So when I cause when I came to Christ, I had an encounter and I got delivered from demons.
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So I experienced it, and then I had an incurable disease that just gets randomly healed.
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Because I like I was telling you earlier, I was in the military.
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Yeah.
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So I'm like, man, I want to cast out demons.
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So I start watching people online and I'm like, bro, it's either like you said, it's really fake, even though I had deliverance.
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Right.
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Because like, bro, like and I knew there was fruit to it because all the addictions just it just the desire internally is just like gone.
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Right, yeah, of course.
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Like, like I went from an addict to a lot of porn alcohol, bro.
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I couldn't, I could not put down the alcohol, bro.
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Oh, yeah.
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For a minute, since I was like 17 for like 12 years.
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Okay.
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I was like the desire just like stripped.
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So like I'm like, okay, it's either like this was like it's fake or it's very real.
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I believe it enough to study this because I experienced it, but nobody prayed for me.
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It was an encounter in my apartment alone.
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I want to know if this is real.
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Right.
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So I started watching a lot of videos, reading books, crying out to God and being honest.
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Like, I have unbelief.
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Right.
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Like God helped me with my unbelief type of deal.
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Like, I don't know what you have to do to make me do this or how this is gonna work.
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And bro, he activated me.
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Okay.
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Just like it was it was like a few months later in Cali.
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I went to go, it was like it was during COVID.
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I went to visit actually my friend from Patterson.
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Like he um when I was in the military with him, his name is Mark.
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Actually, no.
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That's crazy.
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His name's Mark Martin.
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Shout out to my brother, Mark.
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You yeah, it's my brother.
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And we went out there, bro.
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And our goal was to go from city to city and just evangelize and like feed the homeless.
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Right.
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I'm new on the face.
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I'm like, okay, like let's let's go do it.
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I'm gonna be bold.
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My wife was like, it's COVID.
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You know, everyone got masked up.
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They think my mom's like, yo, you're crazy.
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Stop.
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Yeah.
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I have a newborn at the time.
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So I'm like, let's go.
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So we go.
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I'm in this apartment, I'm telling them my testimony.
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And my boy, he was Christian, but like at the time, extremely lukewarm.
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Like in the military, he was Christian, but we're getting drunk and smoking and cultural Christian.
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Yeah, not really, not really walking it out.
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So he's with his girl and his girl's friend, and we're in this apartment with my wife, we're just chilling.
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I'm telling him, like, and then he I'm talking about my testimony, and his like her friend goes, Yo, I want that.
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Like, I want what you just talked about, this deliverance thing.
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And I'm like, Okay, she's and then she's telling me, like, my boyfriend got shot right in front of me in Chicago.
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They were running with Lil Dirk's crew and all that.
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So she's seen someone get shot.
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She's been dealing with depression, sleep paralysis, all these things.
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So I'm like, all right, I'm reading this book by Derek Prince called They Shall Expel Demons.
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I'm like, I'm gonna, I just have this little list at the end where I read off things that you just renounce, and then let's try it.
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And I told my wife, like, you win it.
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She's like, bro, we have no idea, only from what we've seen on video.
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Sit her down, we start going through the list.
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She's like, she gave her life to Jesus.
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She's saying, I renounce halfway through the list, like manifesting.
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Right.
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Me and my wife look at each other.
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I'm just like, in Jesus' name, come out, come out.
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Bro, she starts like throwing up.
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This is by a pool out of Marriott in front of everyone.
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And that's what started our deliverance ministry.
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Okay.
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After that, my friend and his girl freak out.
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They start calling up people.
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The next day they come, they get deliverance.
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Okay.
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They get people are getting baptized, and that's what kind of started like what we call revival.
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Right.
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Then we started seeing it a lot, bro.
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So I've seen like I've seen crazy deliverances.
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People's back start contorting.
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Like, and they start, like, right.
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And I know that in like in Santeria, Voodoo, Palo, 21 Divisions, all these things.
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It's like, I know there's rituals.
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Right.
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I've seen different types.
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Like, I've seen all different types of things that you can do to expel a demon from what you guys believe.
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Right.
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Right.
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What I used to believe.
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But like I've I've I don't have to do a ritual.
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Right.
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Like I've seen now, it's just I don't have to touch people sometimes.
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Right.
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In the name of Jesus, and you can feel like a like a like a presence, like an atmosphere, yeah, oh yeah.
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And then they just like bro, like scrimming on the ground like a python.
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Right, yeah.
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And it's but it's always the same system, it's the same pipeline always.
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It's getting back to how you can do it or who's doing it.
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It's I had a personal experience in my bathroom.
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Jesus came to me.
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I can't debate that.
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I don't know who came to you, but you say you had this experience, whoever it may be.
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Then you're starting to do everything.
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How?
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You know what I mean?
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Facts.
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And I think it's disingenuous to the point where how can I say it without sounding crazy?
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No, bro, be real.
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Bro, we're cool, we're vibe.
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No, it's like everything you do, I do.
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Wow.
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I mirror you.
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But you would say that mirroring is demonic.
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Only because I don't believe the Bible story, the story from the Bible, the the Jesus, the God of the Bible.
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I don't believe in it.
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But it's not that I don't believe it, it's that I don't I don't know it.
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So I can't.
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Believing means I I I trust something I don't know.
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I know that it's most likely not real.
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You understand what I'm saying?
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Right.
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And yeah, like like you're but the end results, we can still achieve the same goal.
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Wow.
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You know what I mean?
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There's ten ways to skin a cat.
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And you know I like the problem is because you're authentic, bro.
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Yeah.
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Only people gotta keep it real.
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Um these things only happen in the church ecosystem.
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Outside of the church ecosystem, everyone's not getting um possessed.
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Everyone's not having to like through do the same.
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How can I say it?
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The ritual of the deliverance is always the same.
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In my traditions, it's not.
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What would you what do you do?
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Like how like I mean, I'm in various ATRs.
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I'm in like an actual Elay for Yoruba Lukumi, um, 21 Divisions, and soon Palo.
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But there's initiations that I have to go through before I can be like, I'm officially in that all happen this year, and then I do occultism and witchcraft, which is my like first, that's the first entry into everything, into everything was like witchcraft.
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I was in Europe and I met some witches.
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Because what happened, what really happened was I realized like I started getting I started meeting people that were literally giving me messages about myself that you would say demons told them, but they would know things that no one else knew.
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Like I would go to a new city, I was teaching at a dance studio, one of the students was like, You gotta come over to my house.
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And I'm like, Okay, cool, let's go.
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I come over, she's like, Sit over there, and I'm like, What?
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She's like, Your mom had a message for you, that's why I called you.
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And she told me all these things.
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I moved to another house in another city.
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The landlord, when I'm moving out, says, You know, I've always seen this woman with you.
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And then she knew my grandmother, she knew this, and then she was giving me a ride because we lived like in the mountains.
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We have to take like a bus to get to like the town.
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And she was like, You know, you're not supposed to be a minister of Christ, you're not supposed to be a pastor.
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And that's what I was like headed towards was like, I'm gonna have a church.
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I was gonna do similar to what I was gonna be like essentially what you were, and then it was like, wait, but I've been taught this my whole life, so it's hard for me to deconstruct that.
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But I had to look at facts, and then I look at the fact that I'm black, and I'm like, wait, where do black people come from?
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We come from Africa.
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When did we get the Bible?
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Who gave us the Bible?
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No one ever gets Christianity without getting stomped.
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You know what I mean?
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First, we get like we were slaves, give us the Bible.
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The by the Bible can be used in so many crazy ways, yeah, that that's how I know it can't be a definitive word of God.
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Did you know I was raised Catholic?
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Okay, I I I like Catholicism.
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So I was I was raised Catholic.
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I love it.
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But like in the Catholic Church, bro, like I was a rebel.
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And by the way, you guys see you love because it's very similar.
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Because it's because Catholicism is occultism.
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Please, please talk like it is occultism.
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Please talk about that.
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Because I say this all the time, bro.
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It is what are we doing?
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Burning candles, incense, the mantras, it's ceremonial magic.
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The Pope moves around the world on ley lines and energy portals, and it's not you go to the Vatican, it's not Jesus and clear, beautiful angels.
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It's something else.
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You know what I mean?
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It's go go in.
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Look at the symbols, look at the symbols they use.
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Because I I get persecuted a lot by Catholics when I say this.
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Like, I'm like, it's it's it's just like witchcraft.
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It is.
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It's very similar, like the idol worship, like putting the money in the thing right next to the idol.
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I remember when I was in voodoo and santeria, yeah.
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That's how it was.
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It was the Catholic statues.
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It's Catholic statues, yeah.
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Bro, and like even rosaries, yeah.
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Like it's it's almost it's identical, bro.
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Like it's it's it's well, you know, here in America we synchronize with those saints.
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But it's odd that we were able to.
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I think it's very interesting.
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Like, if you look at it, like, how do we be able to say a Shango is St.
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Barbara and this one is that one and Saint Lazarus is whoever?
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It's like they're so similar because I think it was built off of the back of the African traditions.
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Yeah, they came, they came to like Haiti, Puerto Rico, DR, and forced it.
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Catholicism, like used Catholicism to divide and conquer and rape the people, slate, enslave the people, right?
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And made them bow down to the statues.
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And then these people, the Tainos and the Africans coming from all these different parts of Africa, they were like, okay, we're gonna listen because we don't want to die.
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Right, because you don't want to die.
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And but we're gonna worship in our heart the the their deities, their their gods.
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You okay with me?
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Yeah, bro, you can grab the doll.
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So if I tell you this doll is, I I call this doll Mark, but you can call it Richard.
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But we can both can say that's Richard, and I'm saying that's Mark.
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That's all they're doing.
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They're just like the energy, that's what I'm saying, it's the Ashay.
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Just like you can say, God, the Holy Ghost came to me and I healed this person, I'll say no, it's Ashe.
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I believe like we have to become gods ourselves.
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It's the intention of the heart, right?
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No, I believe it's an energy, a magic God power that we have inside of us.
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Okay.
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And some have more, some have less, some have none.
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That that's the we actually kind of have like it's like we're actually getting somewhere on that.
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That's good.
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Because I believe like there's spirits in the spirit realm.
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Like there's there's that, they're they're persons without bodies.
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They're they have personalities.
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Yes, oh, like legit, like we they don't, they don't, they're disembodied persons, like spirits that have personalities, they like certain things, like doing certain things, like like you said, Chango, a legwa, like like like um, like like voodoo, you got legba, you got like like all these different deities, like Byron, all these deities, and they're sp they're just spirits with names, right?
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And I believe all these spirits in the spirit realm, I believe that they're able to work for a human vessel based off of the connection of the heart with that deity.
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Right, and that's great.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So, like for example, let's say like like what's your um I say like your main spirit that you like or deity that you worship?
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Because I know that in voodoo stuff.
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I don't worship any spirits, or that you connect to I venerate, so we have we venerate spirits.
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The main, I would tell you this.
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See, there's a big misconception.
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We don't worship, you guys worship.
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I bow to no spirits, I greet spirits, I salute spirits, I have them work with me and work almost for me.
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If I was gonna be egotistical, I'd be like, they they do for me.
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But I have to do for them.
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Wow.
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Same as if I were a Christian, I had to do for God.
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Yeah, you know, I had to do for Christ.
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You know, I have to live a certain lifestyle so that I could be blessed.
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I'm not just unconditionally loved by God, but I have a mother who unconditionally loved me.
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And when she passed away, now I have her.
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She's my ancestor, and I can work with her.
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I know my mom, I know my grandmother, my great-grandmother.
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I don't know Jesus.
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Wow.
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Who was that man?
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You know, was he even on this earth?
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That's the questions that I had that led me to where I am now.
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And it's like I can do way more than what people do with that face.
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Yeah, you know what I mean?
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That image that's not even a real image.
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You know what I mean?
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It says have no images, but then we have this picture.
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Yeah, you know, and who is that homosexual Italian?
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Yeah, that's who that is, you know, Borgio.
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But it's like we say, No, you can't say that.
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No, I can say that.
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Yeah, I want you to be real, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The problem is my ancestors have been beaten down so much in the name of God and Jesus.
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Why would I want to deal with him?
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Man, you know, I remember once you guys were uh downtown and I came, you were inside, you were getting hype, you were dancing and singing in the church, and uh praying.
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I'm I think I were praying.
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You guys had uh in the in the bar.
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Yeah, on the corner.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then I came around, I they said, yo, some of your guys walked by me and I left work.
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Came with one of my guys, and I stood out there for like 30 minutes.
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I was surrounded by some of your people from inside.
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And they were like preaching and going back and forth, and they were like, bro, what would you do if Jesus came out of here right now?
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I said, I'd slap the crap out of him.
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Wow.
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Like, because where have you been?
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To me, he's a if he exists, I'm not debating.
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I don't believe he does, but I don't debate it because you might believe he does.
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Yeah, and I could be wrong.
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But if he's there, I can't deal with him either way.
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But I will tell you he is my enemy if he exists.
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You understand what I mean?
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Because he's left us.
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Can I be honest with you though?
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So, like Jesus, as far as image, like have no graven image, I get like for sure, like that we bow down to, right?
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Like and I don't bow down to that image.
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Like when I pray, I don't bow down.
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Right.
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I just it's like a crazy story, backstory.
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Like there's a little girl that that painted him like an NDE crazy story, like but that picture.
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Yeah, but um, and it just touches me because like the the story, but when it comes to Jesus, he he I believe and I know because I've experienced this that he's he is with you.
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You're not his enemy.
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Like who's with who?
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Like he's so Jesus cast him out.
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Nah.
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I need to get him out.
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You could do it.
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He wait, can you do that?
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To cast out Jesus, you cast Jesus out?
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:47.519
So I actually prayed for you before I came in.
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I just asked the Lord to just speak to me about you.
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Okay.
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What he showed me was he hasn't left you.
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No, for real.
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No, I knew you were gonna say that.
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No, like for real, like he showed me that he's with you.
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He hasn't like he hasn't left you.
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Right.
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But he was showing me that you just you because of hurt, you've been hardening your heart for a minute.
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Okay.
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And that, and he just he loves you, bro.
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And he's not gonna, he's never gonna leave you nor forsake you.
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Like the scriptures say, but it's real.
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So I didn't, I don't know if you know my testament, I didn't give my life to Jesus because of church, like religion.
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No, no, I know you didn't.
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Bro, like I was in the world.
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Like I was, I thought that Jesus was like brainwashed.
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At one point I thought, same thing, like I it was forced on my ancestors, and so I started studying the Catholic Church and just the deception in the Vatican and papacy and how they were actually killing the early church.
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Yeah, they're terrible.
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Like essentially.
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Bro, the Romans they saw they saw the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.
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They saw how he became super popular, and they knew if we don't take advantage of this, we're like there's we're gonna be taken over.
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So they intertwined their pagan worship with Christ.
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That's awesome, right?
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:48.000
Yeah, exactly.
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:54.880
And that's where we get Catholicism, and they were telling the early church, the real Christians, bow down or we kill you.
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Right, yeah.
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So then that's where we get like that whole divide and conquer type of thing where they used it, and that's that's just not that's not what the word even teaches.
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:08.559
And even slavery, you know, hundreds of years ago, like, or the most recent slavery movement, like what we know, right?
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:15.039
Right, yeah, is like they they use the Bible to almost like just almost to justify what they were doing.
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:16.640
Because the Bible justifies it, it doesn't.
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It says slaves obey your master.
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Even the Ten Commandments, it says obey the Sabbath and let your slaves and animals rest.
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Yeah, so like so we're accepting that God never condones.
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So, like in those times, like especially like during the early church times, a slave or a bondservant, like the word is actually bondservant, is somebody who gives themselves in willingfully to somebody who, let's say, has money to live under their roof and to get their food, even like bring their family, and they'll sign contracts.
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And a lot of times they'd be like lifelong contracts or a short um contract, even in the scriptures, Philimon.
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There's a story about there's a the book of Philomon, it's one chapter, it's one book, and it talks about that.
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Like with one semis, like he was a slave, and Paul was like, Hey, you're gonna like let him back.
00:28:57.920 --> 00:28:59.519
Like he's a fellow brother of Christ.
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It's kind of like modern day, bro.
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Like someone working at Walmart right now, right?
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That's a slave.
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That's that's how you guys justify it.
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That's the psychosis you guys have.
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It sounds crazy to me, but like you believe that because who wrote the Bible, according to you?
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Who would you say wrote the Bible?
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Which book?
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Like the whole Bible, where does it come from?
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Essentially, it's a compilation of different authors that were, I believe, were inspired by the Holy Spirit over a period of periods of thousands of years.
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In the beginning was the word, and the word was God?
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John, yeah.
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You believe that it's the word of God.
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We agree to that.
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So, for the sake of this conversation, if that's the word of God, and God is all-knowing, all powerful, he's everything, he created everything according to Christianity or whatever you want to call it, why couldn't you just use a better word?
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Why would you use the word slave?
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Yeah.
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Because I understand slave as one thing.
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Yeah.
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The Bible, what screws me up with the Bible is if it's God's word, it has to be interpreted so many different ways.
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:55.599
No, if I say I have to go eat, it means I have to go eat.
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.960
But in the Bible, go eat could mean he had to go and feed the cows.
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Yeah.
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It's BS.
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And that but that's why the study of hermeneutics.
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So what I do when I get in the scriptures, I read the Greek and I read the Aramaic, I read the Hebrew because that is the original language.
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Right.
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:09.920
Like when you study the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:11.920
You know about the Dead Sea Scrolls?
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Yeah, bro.
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Like they found it in the original languages.
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It has been translated.
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Yeah.
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:22.559
And that's why if you go to theology school, I didn't go to theology school, but there's a lot of people probably watching that been at theology school, no problem with that.
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:29.039
If you want to go, but you study hermeneutics, you study like to break it down in the Greek, Hebrew, yeah, definitely.
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:31.279
Commentary, different things to really get the full picture of it.
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:32.880
But why do we have to do all that?
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.759
Why can't we just read and live?
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:37.680
It's kind of like chemistry.
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:56.880
Like if someone, a German, gets a cat has a chemistry experiment and and there's an actual reaction and it's a successful reaction or whatever, or scientific whatever, and they write it in German and it gets translated in English, that German word might have so much more meaning and context than English, because English and the language of English in itself has been dumbed down.
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.319
Like what we speak today is not even the original English.
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.079
It's been like, bro, we've as Americans, right?
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:05.440
But it's a canonized book.
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:05.839
Yeah.
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.880
So it's like someone sat there and said, I want this book in there, I want that book in there, take this book out.
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:12.559
Yeah, just so the great schism.
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:13.839
Humans did that, right?
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:14.079
Yeah.
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:15.279
I don't follow humans.
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Yeah.
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:16.240
You know what I mean?
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That's so good.
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And that's the danger.
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:20.400
And that's why I always teach I teach that I bro I agree.
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:20.640
Yeah.
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I actually tell people, like, if my only revelation of God is only, and this people are gonna, they're gonna, you could you crucify me for this.
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:33.519
If my religion or my belief in Jesus is only scripture, right?
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:41.440
And there's no illumination of the word or experience of the word in my life, uh-huh, that's dead religion.
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.400
The Bible says the letter kills, the spirit gives life.
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:44.880
Okay.
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:47.920
So what I'm reading, it's it's like it's a directional guide.
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:48.240
Yeah.
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.640
I study my I study to show myself approved.
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:56.720
If I read Mark 16, 7, these signs shall be these signs shall follow those who believe, they will cast out demons.
00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:58.160
And I remember I got saved.
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:04.559
I, after getting delivered myself, a process of deliverance, I was like, okay, if this is real, I believe.
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:05.359
But say it again.
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:06.160
What verse was it?
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.559
Um Mark's Mark chapter Oh crazy, Mark chapter.
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:08.880
Yeah.
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:10.400
But what was it?
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:11.279
I didn't even think about that, bro.
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:11.920
What was the verse?
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:13.759
Mark chapter 16, verse 17.
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And it says These signs shall follow those who believe.
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:18.319
Those who believe what?
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:19.839
In Christ, the Jesus, the gospel.
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.799
And so we have to define where Christ is, who Christ is.
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:23.119
Yeah.
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:24.880
Was he a real person?
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:26.160
Was he just a consciousness?
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:27.440
Was he just a reality?
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:28.559
Was he just like us?
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:29.200
What do I mean?
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:32.720
And then they wrote a story about us and made it different than what it was?
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.440
Yeah, but like because he never, I don't think he was God.
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:40.559
So yeah, but but but but the scripture part, like you were saying, like I believe it has to come alive.
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:44.000
Like, if the Bible says that the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, and peace.
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.599
If I get in the spirit of the presence of God, I should have supernatural love, joy, and peace.
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:47.759
Right.
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:48.559
I've experienced that.
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:50.880
And it's not demonic when you do it.
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:53.519
So, like, what do I believe is demonic, right?
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:58.160
Everything, like you say in your videos, everything on the other side is demonic.
00:32:58.319 --> 00:32:58.480
Yeah.
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:05.440
When I go and cast out a spirit, even though that person found healing, it was demonic, according to I'm gonna say the church for a simple word.
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:06.640
According to Christian in the church.
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.200
Yeah, you'd say that's what your videos say.
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:10.720
Like just because we're being right.
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.680
Yes, I do believe that I believe that there are demonic powers.
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:14.000
Right.
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:15.920
They're very deceptive because I've seen them.
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.119
I've seen them with my own eyes.
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:18.240
I've seen demons, bro.
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:19.279
I've seen them.
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:20.960
They're they're they're not what people think.
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:22.960
No, there's there's different sizes and shapes.
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:24.640
I've seen some as above, so below.
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.799
Bro, like I've seen some so big they hover over a house with horns, bro, and they're huge, and they don't like us.
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:34.319
But they don't they don't love us, right?
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.599
But you see how you just said we have to illuminate the word.
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:41.200
You have to read it and then interpret it and by this Holy Spirit.
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:42.000
By the Holy Spirit.
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:43.359
Now I can do the same thing.
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:51.200
So some people say, like, I have family, they're not all perfect shape, they're not all good looking, and some are tall, some could be ugly.
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:56.480
People are all different shapes, sizes, and forms, yeah, but they can still be my friend.
00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:58.240
I I like alligators.
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.240
It's a it's a mean animal, but I can have a pet alligator and it can probably get tame.
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:04.480
What's the difference with any spirit?
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:09.199
Yeah, like I like those spirits because I can take that spirit and I can say, go do that.
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:10.320
I can send it to people.
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:11.599
You got a problem, I'll solve it.
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:12.559
Yeah, see what I mean?
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:13.840
I'm about solving the problems.
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.239
Yeah, you guys are into wait for it.
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:18.320
If it happens, good, it was God.
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.719
If it doesn't happen, okay, it was still God.
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:22.079
Yeah, that's crazy to me.
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:23.119
So what do I yeah?
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:24.320
You guys are sheep.
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:26.480
And that's why we what do we represent?
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.880
I love the the ram's head.
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:33.920
You know, it represents the opposite of the sheep, but a sheep is just a simple animal.
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:34.960
Simple dome.
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I don't want to be that.
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:37.360
Yeah, like like dependent on the shepherd.
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:38.400
I don't want to be like that.
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:39.920
Yeah, you I want to be the ram.
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:41.199
Like you want to do it on your own.
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:43.599
No, no, I I am doing it on my own because I'm supposed to.
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:45.519
You know, that's like literally the garden story.
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:46.719
Well, no, it's not.
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.159
Like, like because God told them don't eat from the like the tree of the nine.
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:51.360
You mean when he lied to them?
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:52.559
But for what I believe, right?
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:53.360
What I know.
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:55.199
Like you get my Bible?
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:57.039
Yeah, let's read it.
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:57.760
I love the word.
00:34:58.079 --> 00:34:59.519
My Bible's a little weird looking, though.
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:01.039
It's different than the original?
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:03.360
Yeah, it's the Mark Fox version.
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:05.039
Oh word.
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.280
Because I believe in all these books.
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:08.320
I use this for magic.
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:11.119
I use this for what I needed to do.
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:12.000
Wow.
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.480
I can't read, I'm old, so I gotta like pull it away.
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:15.599
You're good, bro.
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:19.360
So you put a tree in there, right?
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.039
Yeah, many trees, many trees.
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:22.559
Right, but there's a specific tree of what?
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:23.920
Knowledge of good and evil.
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:25.840
So they were dumb before that, right?
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:26.400
No, no, no.
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:28.320
They had no knowledge, they had knowledge of good.
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:41.280
Like, so like other so before that they were they were connected to God, where God was with them in the cool of the day, like where God, yeah, yeah, they were like a like a sheep, literally, like you said, was being guided by a shepherd to be to be grown, like to learn.
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:42.719
It's like it's like me and my son.
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:43.840
My son's six.
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:44.079
Right.
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.039
So like I have to teach him like because he can't pay his bills, he can't, right?
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:54.960
So like God was teaching Adam and Eve and eventually all of humanity, his plan was to teach them connection, like we're gonna, like what we're gonna do in heaven, right?
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:59.360
Like to teach us to eve to evolve under his guidance and under his covering.
00:35:59.519 --> 00:35:59.840
Okay.
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.119
So what so what do you believe?
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:06.320
Like, I believe what the word says specifically, because it's written that way and it says what it says.
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.719
It says, I put this tree there, it's the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:11.039
Yeah.
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:12.880
So before that, I had no knowledge of evil.
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:13.199
Yes.
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:18.079
So how would I know not or to or what is bad?
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:22.639
So if I tell my child, don't do that, he doesn't know what's good and evil.
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.559
He doesn't know that not listening to me is evil.
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.280
Yeah, he just knows I was told not to do this.
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:29.440
Yeah, and then it says, For ye shall surely die.
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:29.760
Yes.
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:35.599
And then a snake came, a serpent, and said, Hey, God said you were gonna die.
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:36.719
But you didn't.
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.440
Actually, the serpent said that's actually the first sin then.
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.000
That would be the first lie that God gave us.
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.719
Do you know how you do you know how like the serpent deceived Eve?
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:45.679
But wait.
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:47.519
He didn't deceive Eve.
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:47.760
All right.
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:48.639
God deceived Eve.
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:55.039
So basically, I believe the serpent deceived Eve by saying, Hey, you can be like you believe that, but you can be like God.
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:56.079
And know good and evil.
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:56.559
It's true.
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.000
Right, but why would you not want to?
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.239
So think about this because that's a great question.
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:03.440
Because now we're born into that original sin where we know good and evil.
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:08.559
That's why like a three-year-old or a five-year-old, they they just naturally know like this is bad, this and they do bad things.
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:09.360
But they don't.
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:13.119
Oh, bro, like I have who defines good and bad, morality.
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.119
Like, like is rape wrong?
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:16.719
Yes, is murder wrong?
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.480
Yes, but we're talking about wrong as far as my doing unto you without your consent.
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:23.440
But how do you know that?
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:24.639
Like, what makes you believe in that?
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:27.440
Because I'm God body, because I have God in me.
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:28.480
I am God, so it's basically.
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.039
So it's based off your morality.
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:32.559
No, there is no morality.
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:36.320
So, like, what set of rules gives you, or how about would I want that done to me?
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:36.719
No.
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.320
So I wouldn't want to do that to someone.
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.360
That would be considered if I bring harm to you, it is bad.
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:45.440
If you like me to smack you in the face, then when I smack you in the face, it's not bad.
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:46.639
Yeah, you see what I mean?
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.880
Like some people just create this moral code that's not even in there.
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.280
God started, I'm following God's example.
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:54.639
He said, You're gonna die.
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:55.440
I didn't die.
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:56.719
Then I ate the fruit.
00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:57.760
I'm still alive.
00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:59.039
Now I know I'm naked.
00:37:59.199 --> 00:37:59.840
God went in.
00:37:59.920 --> 00:38:00.800
What did you what did you say?
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:01.440
What did you say?
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:03.119
What did he what did he make the first clothes out of?
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:03.599
Skin?
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.679
No, no, it was actually it was yeah, skin.
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:06.159
Skin.
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:06.880
The sacrifice.
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:07.199
Right.
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:08.719
Sacrifice is where did the skin come from?
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:09.199
An animal?
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:10.079
Yeah, sacrifice.
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:11.599
So then they had the skin on.
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:13.039
And then what did they say?
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:14.400
We have to kick them out of the garden.
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:15.440
I'm paraphrasing.
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:20.159
We have to kick them out of the garden because they shall eat of the other trees and surely become like us.
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:20.559
Yeah.
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:21.280
It says that.
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:22.159
That's crazy to me.
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:22.400
Yeah.
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:28.079
So why would I put these trees in there that can make you like me, like God, but I don't want you to be God.
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.199
But I'm gonna test you, and you guys are gonna say the usual stuff that we were told.
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.199
Well, it's because he wants us to have free will and he wants no, it's it's BS, bro.
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:35.760
But think about this.
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:36.079
Do you love it?
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:36.880
You gotta come out of it.
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:37.920
Like, do you love your girlfriend?
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:38.800
Do you love your girlfriend?
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:39.280
I don't know.
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:40.639
Or how about do you love your mom?
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:41.360
Or I don't know.
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:42.000
No, I'm being silly.
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:42.880
I'm gonna say, yeah, of course.
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:43.280
Right?
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:43.920
So, like, think about it.
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.000
Like, your girlfriend, do you control her to love you?
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.320
Um, I control her though.
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:50.079
That's not good.
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:51.199
Sit down, sit down.
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.199
I don't I don't think you're No, no, no, I don't control her to love.
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:54.400
No, no, I understand where you're going with it.
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:55.360
Yeah, you see what I'm saying?
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:59.360
Like, for like anybody you love, you don't want them to be forced to love you.
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:00.480
So that's what we are forced.
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:01.679
Think about this.
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:07.280
If God created us to like literally be forced to love him, it's not real love because there's no choice.
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:08.880
That sounds good, but it's not true.
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:11.039
It's not authentic, it's disingenuous.
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:11.519
BS.
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:12.480
How?
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:16.480
Because if God created us, he knew what we were gonna do.
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:16.800
Yes.
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:18.800
But he created us and then said, be a sheep.
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:19.280
Yeah.
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.440
Don't learn nothing more, just be a sheep.
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:27.360
Because Christians honestly have to be have to become a Christian, I have to lose some degree of intellect.
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:34.000
Because I have to be able to read these books and say, Yeah, God said, Don't eat the tree, because we're gonna die.
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:34.880
But then we didn't die.
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:35.840
Right there, it stops for me.
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:37.119
So do you know what death meant?
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:37.920
No, it didn't.
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:38.400
We don't know that.
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:39.119
So here we go.
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:40.639
But no, but redefining the words.
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:42.400
No, no, but but no, but this you talk surely die.
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.280
It was spiritually separated from God, and also they did die.
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.000
So before we were dying, this is a question we would ask you.
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:51.199
Didn't Adam and Eve die?
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:52.880
I don't even know if Adam and Eve lived.
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:53.519
Do you die?
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:54.559
Are you gonna die one day?
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:56.159
No, your body isn't gonna die.
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:56.639
Yes.
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:59.360
So that's what he so like you shall surely die.
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:03.280
He didn't say you will die the minute you like right when you eat the apple, you're gonna drop by.
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:04.320
But how do we know that?
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:09.199
Because it like you shall surely die literally means spiritually, they died, and also physically, they died.
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:14.159
So let me ask you a question because you just made me think of something new, which is pretty cool.
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:18.960
Before that, they were in perfect harmony, we'd say, in the Garden of Eden.
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:19.519
Yes.
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:24.719
What was the need of spiritual versus physical, if that makes sense?
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:26.400
Because they weren't dying before that.
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:28.639
So there was no heaven to go to before that.
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.599
There was no hell to go to before that, in theory, right?
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.239
Yeah, there was a hell, there was a hell, but not the humans.
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.679
So like the because Satan, when did Satan go to hell?
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:39.199
So he's going to go to the lake of fire.
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:41.039
He didn't come up until way back here.
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:42.960
You don't hear about Satan until Revelation.
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.679
Yeah, you don't hear when did Jesus when did Satan get cast out of heaven?
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.800
He's he's spoken about throughout the throughout the scriptures, like different there is a point of the thing.
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:50.239
I would challenge you on that another time.
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:51.199
Yes, amen.
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:57.840
But I'll I'll tell you like Satan, so like the uh Satan and the third of the angels, they were casted out of heaven and they're destined to the lake of fire.
00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:58.079
Right.
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.360
So lake of fire, from what I believe, right, as a Christian, is for them.
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:03.280
God never created the lake for uh for us.
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:04.719
Okay, that's interesting stuff.
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:08.800
Yeah, so like God created Adam, right, from from dirt, right?
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:09.920
And breathed into him.
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:16.320
So why did so from what I believe, why did God want to create a human vessel when He could we could have just been spirit like him?
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:23.280
So what I believe is He created us in His image and likeness, and that word is icon in the Greek, that means a spiritual image.
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:23.519
Okay.
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:34.000
He gave us physical vessels for here on this planet, on this in this physical realm, he created this physical realm for us to be able to expand heaven here on earth.
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:35.679
That's crazy wild.
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:36.400
Why?
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:41.199
Because I know you're smart, I know that you can build a great organization, but you believe this stuff.
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:42.559
Yes, it blows my mind.
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.679
I'm looking you in your eyes and I'm like, this is crazy when people say this to me.
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:47.760
But why why don't you like so what do you what do you think?
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:48.880
Because it just makes no sense.
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:49.360
Really?
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.440
It makes no common sense like on earth.
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:52.239
Like we can't.
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.800
First off, no one ever sees God, right?
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:56.400
He's a deadbeat dad to me.
00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:58.159
You can call him, you can pray to him.
00:41:58.239 --> 00:41:58.880
He never answers.
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:00.800
What happened to all the slaves for 400 years?
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:02.719
What happened to that girl who just got raped yesterday?
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:04.000
So many have someone just got killed.
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:05.599
So many have encountered God.
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:10.079
But they only encounter God, it's like I'm stuck on drugs, I'm I'm doing these things.
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:13.519
It's like You know how many people have no, I've had When I go to jail, I become Christian.
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.880
You know how many people I've seen I've seen God literally in the physical?
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:17.679
That's impossible.
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:19.840
Because it says no one can look upon him or hear his voice, right?
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:20.400
No, no, no.
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:20.960
Doesn't say that.
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:21.360
It does.
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:26.239
Every time what happened in the temple in the in the in the old testament, anytime God spoke, that's why Moses had to go up.
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:31.360
So you know Jesus, like he resurrected in his glorified body and he actually showed himself onto his disciples.
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:32.079
No, he didn't.
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.320
That's bro, that's he never was resurrected.
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:35.760
So you don't believe he resurrected?
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:36.639
No, he never died.
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:38.800
So you believe what Islam believes?
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:39.360
No.
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.159
I know that Jesus never died because he never lived.
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:44.000
Oh, so you don't believe Jesus was even a person?
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:44.400
No.
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.920
You know, historically it's backed by by non-Christians.
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:50.079
There's historical evidence.
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.519
There's scientific backing that Jesus was actually a real person.
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:54.239
There's not.
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:56.320
Oh, there's so many letters, bro.
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:58.800
But that's another part two.
00:42:59.119 --> 00:42:59.360
Yeah.
00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:03.119
And I because I because I I gotta have the we gotta have the notes and stuff, yeah, for sure.
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:03.599
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:05.760
I could definitely like and and just and show you, and then you can.
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:11.199
But I'm just like really my my point today is really to like, like you say, chop it up, yeah, see where we're at.
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:11.599
Facts.
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:17.519
And then I want to invite you to a witch's invitation, which would be where we pick certain subject matter and go back to back, just this.
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:18.239
I would love that.
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:19.119
And that will be fire.
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.960
Yeah, it's like essentially a debate, but yeah, I think it would be I would challenge you to that.
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:24.880
Yeah, like off the word and different things.
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:28.320
Yeah, just Bible and I will pick subject matter, and then we'll go.
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:32.079
I'll come up with like an idea, and then you come up with ideas and we'll go back to it.
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:32.880
We'll just go back and forth.
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:33.679
Man, I would love to do that.
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:36.079
I believe Jesus never lived, for example.
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:37.679
And then you say, prove it through the Bible.
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:39.199
And I'm only going to use this book.
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:41.840
You tell me which version you want, I got it.
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:42.239
Okay.
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:43.920
I'll do that I would love to do that.
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:44.480
Yeah, that's great.
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:45.039
Deal?
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:45.519
Yes.
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:46.719
Everyone, y'all can see it.
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:47.760
Y'all seen it here.
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:48.079
Yes.
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:48.719
That's great.
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:57.280
But no, I think it's I want to not come off too crazy and I love like what you do for the people.
00:43:57.519 --> 00:43:58.159
You know what I mean?
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.880
Like when I saw your videos, I was like, nah, I'm Bang on this kid.
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:03.599
Like, you're coming to my people, it's gang gang now.
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:07.199
And then when you came, I'm like, Oh, you're you're charismatic, you're cool, yeah, you're authentic.
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.840
The first thing I said to you, I said, transparently, you're like, Yeah, let's just talk real.
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.880
Because you know, when the camera's on, we talk different, and you didn't do that.
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:14.000
So I appreciate that.
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:14.480
Thanks, bro.
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.119
And then I was like, I'm gonna keep following you, I'm gonna keep watching.
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:27.119
And it's like, why do Christians, and it's only evangelicals, there's many more similar to you doing the same thing.
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:33.679
Yeah, they're like, I'm gonna go to the church of Satan in in Salem and I'm gonna pray for the being, I'm gonna rebuke this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna pray over.
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:34.719
You've done the same thing.
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:41.840
Yeah, the audacity is amazing to me because you feel you can do that because you're empowered by the supposed, alleged Holy Ghost.
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:42.320
Yes.
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:52.559
When I feel that what you're doing is a disjustice to people, and am I allowed the same grace to come to a church and be like, stand outside and be like, hey, this is nonsense.
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:53.199
The truth.
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:54.159
I'll get pulled away.
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:58.719
No, but I'll get I like I I I actually say no, say no right today.
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.159
No, you can't say say I can do it.
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:00.639
Say it, yeah.
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:01.599
Like come to church?
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:02.400
And do with that.
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:04.320
And what, like, like come in and like say this is false?
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:05.039
I'll stand outside.
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:05.280
Yeah.
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:06.079
Same thing.
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:07.440
I would on what I what would I do?
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:08.239
I would come outside.
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:09.199
I'd be like, what's up?
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:09.760
Let's talk.
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:11.440
Yeah, but I want to talk to other people.
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:13.360
I want to talk to everybody, I want to do the same thing like you do.
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.000
So what I do infiltrate the Botanica.
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:16.559
Yeah, what I do.
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:17.679
You want to infiltrate the church.
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:19.360
So I just I want to be transparent too.
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.880
Because like in the beginning, when I was doing it, I was walking in and it was kind of wild.
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:26.239
And people and not not everybody wanted to do it.
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:26.639
Truly.
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.960
I'm saying I'm saying this on camera two, three years ago when we first started, the Lord put it on my heart to do it.
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:37.199
It was powerful, but then eventually I started learning like, hey, let me let me actually go in and be like, hey, can we record?
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:38.639
I'm a Christian, I'm a pastor.
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:39.119
Is that cool?
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:39.920
That's what I want to do.
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:40.559
That's how I would do it.
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:44.320
Yeah, and and then bro, people started, I started seeing a lot more grace, like a lot more mercy.
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:45.280
And then I, you know, I repent.
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.519
I was like, God, you know, okay, I was a little too zealous.
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:48.000
Great.
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:51.440
And you know, but but you still feel called that you should do that.
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:53.840
Not just to witches and warlike, like not just to scientists.
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:56.719
But no, I've seen you in Islam and but I don't care about you know what?
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.159
You know why I only go after Christians now?
00:45:58.320 --> 00:45:59.519
I only want to go after Christians.
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:02.320
You're the only ones who don't keep your toys in the house.
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.360
You're the ones who come out and be like, you need to follow Christ.
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.000
Yeah, Islam doesn't do that.
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:15.199
Some do, but I've never seen a Muslim on the side side of the Hebrew Israelites, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and the evangelists.
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:16.960
You haven't seen like in Texas, bro, what they're doing?
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:18.239
They're like, they're rioting.
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:22.960
Yeah, but they're not always trying to enforce their religion upon us.
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:23.760
Oh, they're trying.
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:24.880
I mean the same way.
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.199
You you in the next few years we'll we'll see a big shift.
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:28.159
But who's the biggest?
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:29.360
Who's going out with now?
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:30.320
Who's being the fisher of the city?
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:30.960
Oh, yeah, Christians.
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:31.679
100%.
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:33.360
And they feel so confident to do it.
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:37.199
And they have a my problem is it's the disingenuousness of it.
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.480
It's like, bro, like one day I was walking downtown and there's others out there, and they'd be like, I'd be like, I don't have time right now.
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:47.199
And it'll be like, but, but, but, and they're so trained on what's coming out of their mouth, their rhetoric, like they're car salesmen.
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:49.760
Yeah, and it's like you're not, you don't really want to have the conversation.
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:50.000
Yeah.
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.480
Because if you really want to go deep, it's gonna be uncomfortable.
00:46:52.559 --> 00:47:03.199
Yeah, they just want to tell me their testimony and think that I align with it, because I never align with anyone's test, like I didn't live that life of suffrage, and I wasn't in a bad place.
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.760
I was chilling, yeah, believing in Jesus, good.
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.719
And that's when things started being like it's like this.
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:12.800
When I was a Christian, I'll reverse it.
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.039
A lot of people will say, I wanted to kill myself.
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:20.639
I was on the verge of suicide, and then I found Christ, and then they didn't want to kill themselves.
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:28.000
I would say that when I was a Christian, I wanted to kill everybody, and then when I left Christianity, I was straight.
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:29.360
It was like, oh great.
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:30.800
Why why did you want to kill everybody?
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:32.480
Because that's what the Bible teaches me.
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:33.760
You're against me.
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.000
You're God says I'm gonna kill you.
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:36.960
I want to be like God.
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:39.280
Oh, you sin, you sin, you go to hell.
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:40.320
But that's not the heart of God.
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.559
The heart of God is Christianity is very violent.
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:43.920
Catholicism was?
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:47.440
Catholicism are there really are there certain sects of Christianity that is violent?
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:48.800
Bro, I'll say this, yes.
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:49.119
Right.
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:50.960
So that means that there's something dangerous with this.
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:51.840
No, no, no.
00:47:52.000 --> 00:48:00.639
I think people interpret it wrongly, and then they they look at people as the enemy instead of looking at the person as someone God loves that God wants a relationship with.
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:03.519
But I think that if there's demons over there, I gotta get them out.
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:05.039
They're bad demons, demon demons.
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:07.440
Y'all think everything is a demon, and it's not.
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.800
You'll be like, this person has the demon of Jezebel.
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:11.679
Jezebel, yeah.
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:13.199
Jezebel, there's no such thing.
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:13.519
Okay.
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:14.239
You know what I mean?
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:14.639
There's a demon.
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:15.760
So let's talk about that.
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:16.079
Okay.
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:17.920
But you know how many times I've casted that demon out?
00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:18.639
You couldn't have.
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:19.599
Never.
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.000
So, like, so I I just want to give you my perspective.
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:23.440
I know you probably won't believe it.
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:24.320
Because I don't know it.
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:26.800
I can't exactly exactly what's in the middle of belief, lie.
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:28.400
You're in you're you have to experience it.
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:28.639
Yeah.
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:29.119
I agree.
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:30.159
Like, for me too, I'm on a.
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:30.960
No, no, no, I don't have to.
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:32.800
I've experienced I I cast out demons.
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:33.679
So I would challenge you.
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:36.719
I'd say, if I put a demon somewhere, you take it out.
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.079
I would love to.
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:42.239
This man, we're gonna be for real friends for a long time.
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:43.440
For real, bro.
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:46.159
Like, if like seriously, like I would love to, I would love to.
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.840
But like I've prayed for people, bro, where like, and it's not just one time to like bro, I can't count it.
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:51.360
No, I know I see it happening a lot.
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:51.599
I do.
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:53.039
That Jezebel Spear will scream.
00:48:53.119 --> 00:49:05.199
It's like a bro, I've heard it's like a it's like a it's like a ugh, like a sounds like ten people screaming at once, and and these people are blacked out, eyes back, falling to the ground, shaking and Richard Lorenzo.
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:06.559
Nah, bro, that's how review.
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:12.800
See, I I I was told that your ancestors did the same thing you did.
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.920
Wow, they were persecutors of witchcraft and paganism.
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:22.239
Wait, when you when you prayed to spirits said that that that my ancestors were also persecutors of witchcraft.
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:24.079
My grandma casted out devils.
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:27.440
My grandma really like they're those they're those spirits are right.
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:31.760
But I could have now how I phrase that, I just said I was told.
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:34.400
I could have said I have a message from God.
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:34.800
Yeah.
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:36.000
Because what is God?
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.960
You see, the words matter a lot, and that's where we get caught up.
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:42.239
Is people say, like, I went and did this, it was God that let me do it.
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:43.840
Like, did God bring me to you?
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:44.719
I don't know.
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:48.480
God brought you to me, but that's because he's your God.
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:49.840
I don't have no God.
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:50.880
You see what I mean?
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:51.599
I am God.
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.159
You know, the only God I know is really was my mother.
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:55.599
Because I came out of her.
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:58.320
And then when she left earth, I was my own person now.
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.079
If she was you said she was Christian, right?
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:00.880
Hardcore.
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:03.599
But if she was alive, no, she's she's passed away.
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:04.480
But she knows different.
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:06.079
She casted out demons and everything?
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:07.039
She did all that.
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:08.719
That's what we were doing all the time.
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:10.960
Watching my great-grandfather was a minister.
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:14.880
We were in the church, like deep in the mud.
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:16.000
You want to know what I believe?
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:16.320
Me.
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:16.880
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:17.840
I believe.
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:23.920
Man, you're gonna get saved, filled with the Holy Spirit, and your testimony is gonna break a lot of chains, bro.
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:25.119
That would be crazy.
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:27.519
Yeah, we're gonna Because I've already come from it.
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:28.960
It's like spinning the block back.
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:30.800
I don't spin back around.
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:31.519
Yeah.
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.000
I think I bro, like I like the prodigal son.
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.800
It's impossible because now I'm bigger than this now.
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:38.079
You see what I mean?
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:38.960
I'm gonna say something crazy.
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:40.960
I'm bigger than the Holy Ghost.
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:42.400
That's what you think.
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:43.280
But many of us are.
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:44.000
It's not just me.
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:45.360
I'm not saying I'm the only one.
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.599
We all are bigger than the Holy Ghost because he is made by man and we control him.
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:51.519
Do you know what holy like holy means set apart?
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:52.000
Set apart.
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.800
So he's the set apart spirit from the entire spirit realm.
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.039
I mean, we're we're even spirits and bodies.
00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:57.519
Yes.
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:04.639
So every human, angel, demon, whatever it is, every spirit, he's the set apart one highest over it all.
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:05.519
That's what I believe.
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:05.760
Right.
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:11.440
We call him Holy Spirit to identify, but like in Hebrew, it'd be the rua kakudosh, Spanish, Espiritu Santo.
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:13.280
It's just the way we translate it.
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:13.599
Right.
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:19.119
But ultimately, like the name of the Holy Spirit has what really defines it is the character, nature, and essence.
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:19.360
Right.
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:20.480
So that's like Jesus.
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:21.920
I have a homeboy name, Jesus.
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:22.400
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.239
He's not Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:35.280
So when I when I say Jesus and demons get casted out, it's not because I said the name of Jesus, it's because I know the name or character, nature, and essence of the Jesus of the word, of the Bible.
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:38.960
I fully believe the scriptures are holy and and and powerful.
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:39.280
Right.
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:45.519
So when I say in Jesus' name, if a demon knows by the intent of my heart, by my faith, that I know that Jesus for real.
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.519
And if I actually do, they know.
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:48.000
Right.
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:50.639
Because they're not gonna come out like the sons of Skeva.
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.400
I don't know if you've ever read about that in the Bible.
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:55.440
Bro, they were casting out demons in the name of Jesus, but they didn't know Jesus.
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:57.280
They were Jewish, they were Jewish exorcists.
00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:57.519
Right.
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:00.719
And when they pulled up to a certain man, and you should read about this, it's crazy.
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:01.039
Uh huh.
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:08.079
They went to go cast out the devil, the demons, the demon came up and said, Paul, I know, Jesus, I know, but who are you?
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.320
Stripped them butt naked and kicked them out the house.
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:12.719
Right.
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.039
Because they didn't, they they weren't moving authentically.
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:15.360
Right.
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:24.000
Because there's a verse, I don't have it off top, but it's something about like you they'll minister in my like and cast out demons, but they weren't of me or something.
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:30.559
Lord, Lord, I've done I've casted out devils, done miracles, and prophesied in your name, and he'll say, Depart from me.
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:32.320
I never knew you, right?
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:33.679
You who works iniquity.
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:34.079
Right.
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:45.280
So that's so it's really what we're getting down to is there's just lots of if there's God and there's the devil, Satan, there's gotta be other ones.
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:45.760
Yeah.
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:47.280
There's gotta be other gods.
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:48.559
Other, not gods.
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:52.159
That's just how we human humanize them and call them gods, but other spirits.
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:52.639
100%.
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:57.119
I mean, and you're right, gods, lowercase what I believe, lowercase G gods, I believe like the scripture says.
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:01.440
Because when I say the Luah or the Ormisha, the Luah, I don't call them gods, I call them spirits.
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:02.239
The Santos?
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:02.719
Yeah.
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:02.960
Yeah.
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:03.760
Spirits.
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:05.119
What's the difference?
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:08.320
It's just we're opposing gangs, essentially.
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:08.880
King.
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:11.920
And so this one says, No, if you don't follow me, I'm jealous.
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:13.119
What are you jealous of, bro?
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:14.480
You're the only God, aren't you?
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:16.400
Yeah, you're the one true God, but you're not.
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:17.599
But this is what you're gonna say.
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:25.519
That word jealous, like what you say she's jealous of you, it actually means zealous, which means like you see, here we go again with the flip in the words in the Hebrew.
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:26.800
You guys never speak clear words.
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:30.079
In the Hebrew, in the Hebrew, it doesn't mean like what we think of jealousy.
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:36.480
Right, so then why don't we you cast out, you heal, you do all these amazing things.
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:36.719
Yeah.
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:37.840
In whose name?
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:38.719
Jesus' name.
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:39.679
But that wasn't his name.
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.239
So how are we using that name when that's not the man's name?
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:43.360
And that's what I'm saying, right?
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:44.079
That's insanity.
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:48.239
Because I'll be honest, there's Christians who think if you don't baptize in Jesus' name, you're not saved.
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:49.039
But that's what you guys say.
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:49.840
You guys always say in Jesus' name.
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:50.559
No, no, no, no, no.
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:51.360
But I'm gonna tell you this.
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.639
For anyone watching, too, there's other Christians that will persecute me for this.
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:57.840
I believe I baptize in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Jesus' name.
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:04.960
I'll baptize in the name of Yeshua, Hesukrito, in the name of the Prince of Peace, in the name of Jehovah Jira, in the name of the But none of those names are the original names.
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:05.920
But that's what I was saying.
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:07.360
So powers in the name of the name.
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:12.239
And Hebrew Israelites will like wow out Yahushua, Yaakara, Busere, all these different names, right?
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:13.199
But that should be right then.
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:13.760
No, no, no.
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:18.719
So this is the thing, and I was saying this earlier name is the character, essence, and nature of the person.
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:20.400
Because there's a million marks.
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:20.719
Right.
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:26.480
But if if I say you're my dog Mark, my friend Mark, I just did an interview with them, they're gonna be like, okay, they don't know who you are.
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:28.719
But if I say Mark, who got dreadlocks, right?
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.840
Got a got a clean beard, he works at Eden, he's a nice guy.
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:35.199
And I start describing you, they go, Oh, I know that Mark.
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:35.360
Right.
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:36.400
He be he'd be working at Eden.
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:37.599
Yeah, you just say Jesus.
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:42.559
I don't think like God is just looking at people like you're about, you're gonna go to hell.
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:49.599
Bro, I look, I he looks like you believe obedience is morality because I have to be obedient to the word of God to get into heaven.
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:52.480
But if I don't be obedient, I will surely die.
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:53.440
No, no, no, no, no.
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:54.639
Obedience to the word of God does not.
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:56.079
Taught us that in the verse.
00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:58.000
Obedience does not get you to heaven.
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:00.960
What gets you to heaven is faith, and it's by grace.
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:03.440
That's why the Bible says in Romans 10, 9, believe in your heart first.
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:04.480
So I'm going to heaven.
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:07.679
If you put but this is the thing about it, you have to have faith in the gospel.
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:08.000
Right.
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:10.159
See, we gotta get somewhere.
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:10.400
Yeah.
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:11.840
I have to follow that.
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:13.119
The gospel message.
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:17.199
Not not doing works, but it's what the works of Christ.
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:19.199
So him being Lord, it means he's you have to.
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:21.039
What is it, faith without works or works without faith?
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:21.679
No, there's the thing.
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:22.559
Both.
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:23.199
No, you're right.
00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:26.559
So faith without works means the faith was never faith to begin with.
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:27.280
It was it's dead.
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:27.519
Right.
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:32.800
So for example, if I say you're you're my friend, I love you, bro, and I'm I always got your back no matter what.
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:36.800
And then you call me and you're like, bro, I'm stranded on the side of the road and I'm down the street.
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.440
I say, Yeah, I can't pick you up right now because I just don't want to pick you up.
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:40.079
I don't really love you.
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:40.320
Right.
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:41.119
Yeah, no, of course.
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:41.440
I agree.
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:43.039
So then that everything I said was cap.
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:43.679
It was a lie.
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:43.920
Right.
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:45.920
Well, welcome, welcome to the God of the Bible.
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:46.960
No, that's not how he is.
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:55.119
When the slave was whipping my butt and my back was bleeding, and I was crying out to Jesus, he said, I love you, brother, but die.
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:56.880
That's exactly what happened.
00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:57.519
It still happened.
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:01.679
You guys are like, You guys have to look at that and just sit with it for a second and say, wait, hold on.
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:03.039
Like, why did these things happen to these people?
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:04.639
No, not why these people happen to these people.
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:06.800
It happens because this is the reality of this earth.
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:12.480
But then we justify it and say, Well, the slave master prayed to the same God as the slave.
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:13.440
That makes no sense.
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:14.159
Can I be honest though?
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:15.360
I don't know Therefore, we cannot worship.
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:18.400
I don't believe my bones and blood are those slaves.
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:20.320
I can't sit there with Jesus.
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.920
Yeah, the slave masters, they did not worship They did not worship the Jesus of the Bible.
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:24.480
Yes, they did.
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:25.679
They worship the false Christ.
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:26.480
Why do you say that?
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:29.039
Because they were they weren't like faith without works is dead.
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.920
If they were truly slaves, but the Bible said slaves obey your master.
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.199
But it wasn't talking about it in the way that we see now, like we heard.
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.960
No I promise, I want you to look up the Greek when you like study.
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:41.119
I look listen, I'm I'm coming for you.
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:42.079
Yes, please.
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:51.679
Bro, like, and and I will tell you I believe that you will stay a follower of Christ forever, yeah, and you will pass away, and then you will learn then, and then you will come back.
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:53.119
Just like you come back now.
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:54.400
Your ancestors are coming back now.
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:58.800
I'm talking to your ancestors, yeah, and they're like that witch, that witch.
00:56:58.880 --> 00:56:59.440
That's what I feel.
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:06.159
Like, you're the first Christian that like it seems like you're not scared, you're not afraid, you don't have a fear to talk to me.
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:07.840
We were that's why I was joking with the doll.
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:08.400
You know what?
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:09.119
Good with that.
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:09.519
Yeah.
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:11.840
But most of you guys are really scared.
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:12.719
But you know why, though?
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:13.280
Can I be honest?
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:14.880
Because the Bible says you should be scared of me.
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:15.599
No, no, no, no, no.
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.880
Because I'm evil, I'm a witch, I'm being babies and stuff.
00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.800
And I think that's why God has is is putting out content like this, bro, for real.
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:23.199
Yeah.
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:24.800
But God doesn't really love us.
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:25.920
He does, bro.
00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:27.039
No, not this God.
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:27.840
He does.
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:29.039
But he doesn't prove it.
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:30.400
You have breath in your lungs.
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:31.119
Not from him.
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:31.760
It is.
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:32.719
My ancestors.
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:34.239
Because they lived, now I live.
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:36.400
See, now you says my mother lived, I live.
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.719
But but your mother So all glory goes to the ancestors.
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:39.679
She believed in Jesus.
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:40.480
That doesn't matter.
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:41.599
She could be confused.
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:43.760
So you think right now she's here, right now?
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:44.880
She was, of course.
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.000
I have a court with me.
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:47.760
And do you think she's confused in the spirit realm?
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:49.199
Or she's No, no, she's not confused anymore.
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.079
You think she died and kind of leave, it was like, oh my god, I was wrong.
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:54.880
I would like to believe because I don't know for fact.
00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:55.360
Okay.
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:58.079
But according to the system that I believe, yeah.
00:57:58.400 --> 00:57:59.519
You know what I believe about your mom?
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:01.360
And I also believe like we come back around.
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:04.559
I I I believe your mom is in the cloud of witnesses with my grandma.
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:05.280
What's that?
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:06.719
So the scriptures talk about that.
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:11.360
So when someone dies, what I believe, what I know, is when the soul, it's like when you're when you believe it.
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:12.320
Do you know it or do you believe it?
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:12.800
I know it, bro.
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:14.960
Okay, so don't say you believe it when you talk to me.
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:17.039
It's kind of both like you say I believe it, you gotta know it.
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:18.079
See, do you know it?
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:18.480
Believe it.
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:20.559
See, I try to, it's yeah, but I get what you're saying.
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:24.079
I believe that our bodies, when our bodies are gonna die, our soul pops out of our body.
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:24.480
Facts.
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:25.119
You believe that?
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:26.639
Yeah, we enter the spirit realm.
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:26.960
Yes.
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:29.519
Okay, at that moment, that's when everything hits.
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:29.920
Boom.
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.000
Full revelation of like what the heck this like.
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:32.719
Exactly.
00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:35.440
At that moment, you ever studied near death experiences?
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.119
Yeah, very confused.
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:38.239
Bro, they're crazy.
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:39.360
Because I don't know if it's in the mind.
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:40.000
It's crazy though.
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:40.960
Like that's something we can't.
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:43.599
We'd be stupid to say we know what happens.
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:48.239
We just kind of believe based on a lot of study experiences and testimonies.
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:49.039
And testimonies.
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:50.320
But you've never gotten a big thing.
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.079
Near death is crazy, but it's always just a bright light.
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:56.079
But I'm like, sometimes I'm dreaming, and I like right now, I see the light, and then I wake up.
00:58:56.239 --> 00:58:58.880
Bro, I've met people personally because at one point I was kind of like that.
00:58:58.960 --> 00:58:59.840
Like I was like, I don't know.
00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:06.159
I was reading all these books, and I'm like, I I actually prayed and said, God, I need to meet people, or I'm not gonna, I can't, I can't fully believe this.
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:06.639
Oh, okay.
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:08.079
And then I started meeting people, bro.
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:11.280
I have close friends that have literally died, they were not Christians, popped out their body.
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:12.159
Bro, real talk.
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:14.079
But I know I I I'll introduce you to them because I'm not sure.
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:14.880
Right, I would love it.
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:21.119
But I've spoken to people as well, and I've gotten different, depending on where they're from and what they believe, it's a different experience.
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.800
I've met Muslims that that died and they met Jesus and realized they were wrong.
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:26.079
I've met people that's impossible.
00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:29.519
Atheists that they pop, they they I promise you.
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:30.719
I leave my body all the time.
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:31.679
What if I told the idea?
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:33.440
Yeah, yeah, that's different.
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:34.800
But like intentionally, yeah.
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.440
Like I could sit here and go into a trance and then go somewhere else.
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:39.199
Yeah, go somewhere and do some things and come back.
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:41.519
Do some stuff and never see Jesus on the way.
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:43.199
I see a lot of things, but never Jesus.
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:44.880
I'm gonna start praying that you do.
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:47.039
I if I see him, it's gonna be a problem.
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:55.360
If you do, let's say you do, let's let's say hypothetically, yeah, you do see Jesus and you realize he's the highest power, would you repent and come to Christ?
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:56.800
No, I'd still got beef with him.
00:59:56.960 --> 00:59:57.760
I'm staying on my side.
00:59:57.920 --> 00:59:58.079
Why?
00:59:58.159 --> 00:59:59.920
Why because he's done no good.
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.320
I've never seen him do good in reality.
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:05.360
I know that if I did, I'd get very, very wealthy.
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.840
I know that I would get rich right after that.
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:08.480
Honestly.
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:10.639
I would start a church and I would blow up.
01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:12.719
I'd be like, hallelujah.
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:13.280
Yeah.
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:15.360
And I'd go and I because I can do this already.
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:16.400
I can do what you do.
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:16.800
Yeah.
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:19.840
In fact, I can do more than this God does.
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:21.440
What do I do that you could do?
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Everything.
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Like what?
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Except talk to Jesus.
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That's the biggest thing.
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That's the only thing I can't do because I can't talk to someone who's not there.
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But what if he But I could in my mind, you know, we only hear how do you know what Jesus sounds like if you never heard his voice?
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From my experiences?
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That's the only way you know.
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Confirmations.
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So for me, like I've I'm talking to Jesus, right?
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He says, My name is Jesus when he comes in the room.
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Oh man, like it's it's it's more than just my name.
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It's more like it's it's bro, it's He never says my name is Jesus.
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So the first the first confirmation for me is when I get in this in the Spirit of God, I can tangibly feel the presence of God.
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No, you feel it.
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Like right now, I can feel the presence of God.
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Me too.
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Because I'm sitting in front of you.
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But it's like it's a it's a it's like an electricity.
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Yeah, because you're you're here in this room.
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Like that.
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That's why you feel God.
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How did you know the chair was anointed?
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What do you mean?
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Earlier you said the chair is anointed.
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Yeah.
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You saw the you saw like the oil?
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You see the oil.
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Yeah.
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She's like, oil, that's witchcraft on me.
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She does witchcraft on you?
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No, that's witchcraft, the oil.
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No.
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Same oil I make.
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I make oils and I give it to people.
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You see what I mean?
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Yeah.
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You guys have the anointing.
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But yeah, but the oil is not what makes the powerful.
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But what is, let me ask you this.
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The prayer over it, the intention.
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Right.
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That's what I'm yes.
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It's just the only difference is you're saying one's demonic and one's Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
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I'm saying ancestors, exactly.
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Orisha, spirits.
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It's the spirits.
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There's our difference.
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Yes, the powers that were.
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The end result is the same.
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Like Chinese people call it noodles, Italians call it pasta.
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Yeah.
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It's the same flower, but there's little differences.
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Because think about this, right?
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Like I've seen people who are in voodoo santeria go for healing, go for to get out of prison, and actually get out of prison and my.
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But then what I've noticed is right after that, if they don't keep feeding those spirits, their whole life is done.
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If you don't keep paying your rent, they kick you out.
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Exactly.
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That's it's it's that that is reality.
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So in Christ, it's not like that.
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Right, because he's not doing anything for you.
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But think about this.
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So if I told you I have a friend who prayed and they they didn't go to prison to Jesus.
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Yeah.
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Or they came and got a miracle healing, right?
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Like, or they got delivered, whatever it is.
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I would believe the end result, but I wouldn't believe what caused that result.
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You wouldn't believe it's Jesus.
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Because it can't be.
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From what you believe.
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No, from what I know.
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No, you don't.
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What if I told you that spirits come to me and tell me that there isn't God?
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There isn't that spirit.
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You believe when I was in voodoo say they're demonic.
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When I was in voodoo, that's the same thing happened.
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Because they're telling the truth.
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They're not.
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They were there before Jesus.
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But didn't you know what happened?
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Weren't they?
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I'm gonna tell you about the warlock.
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Aren't we older than Jesus?
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No, bro.
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Aren't we older than Muhammad?
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Jesus was 2,000 years ago.
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In the beginning was the word.
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Jesus.
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But who said that?
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In the spirit, he was there.
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How do these people get that information?
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Bro, from the Holy Spirit.
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Then I could be writing from the Holy Spirit.
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If I just call it the Holy Spirit, guess what?
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Everyone's gonna believe it.
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Faith is the every Christian will believe that.
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Because you have faith in your religion.
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I don't have a religion.
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Or your practices.
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It's a tradition.
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You have faith in yourself.
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Oh, most definitely.
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Exactly.
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So faith is the substance of things, hope for, it's the evidence of things unseen.
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No, no, because I've done, I believe.
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Like my confidence.
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But before it happened, you had to believe though.
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Do you believe that you can run a mile in five minutes?
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Not until you start running it.
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Then you start to then you know it.
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But to even try means you like you have this, you have this.
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Well, yeah, but you don't know what you can do till you try.
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Correct.
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Exactly.
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Now I've come from Christianity trying, trying, trying.
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Praying.
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I used to pray my butt off for things, and it doesn't happen.
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And why?
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I'm just a faithful young boy.
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I did all the things.
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I didn't drink till I was 30.
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I was a virgin till I was 21.
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I didn't do anything bad to anyone.
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I was always helping the neighbors and doing all the Christian-like things, the Christ-like life.
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Yeah.
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But why wasn't God helping when I said help those people?
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And it was like I didn't pray for like riches.
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I didn't pray for egotistical things.
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I pray like, oh my goodness, help this person, help that.
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Then I learned everyone has their own journey, and that journey is predetermined before they come down on earth.
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Who pre who predetermines it?
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The person chose their destiny, I believe.
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Oh, so you believed that before we came?
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We chose it.
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He chose our parents and we said, This is where we're going, and this is we're gonna have these challenges.
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Who told you that?
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Um the spirits.
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So you and you believe them.
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I know.
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Why do you believe them?
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Because I've watched it.
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I've watched it happen.
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I've watched, I've I've watched people die early, but it was their journey.
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But how did you know?
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Only because the spirits told you.
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But how do you know that?
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How do you know that you are the universe and the spirits?
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I just know.
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Faith.
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In the beginning was Mark.
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Faith.
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No faith.
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Because you can't, you can't, you're believing in something that it's faith, bro.
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It's not faith.
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So you have to think about it.
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It's knowledge.
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It's like I know my name is Fox.
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Yes, exactly.
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Because you you have a birth certificate, you have a birth certificate, you have a license, it's Fox.
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Yeah.
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You can see it, it's tangible.
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It's no, it's no longer faith.
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So that's why I know because I at first I did not believe all these things.
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What made you but who taught you these things?
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As I walked further into the journey away from Christianity, more things became evident to me.
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And people taught you?
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Not really, I kind of.
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Because you said the witch.
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Well, no, I was taught.
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Don't I'm not, yes, a lot of people.
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By a lot of witches and different people.
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Taught how to develop myself.
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Because we all are told go and develop yourself.
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But you had to believe it.
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Spiritually.
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You had to believe it.
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:24.480
Yes, at first I didn't.
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At first I said this might be crazy.
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So so maybe the spirit stuff is all fake.
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Yes.
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Maybe this.
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But then I started saying, like, I used to, like, we do paranormal investigations, right?
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Yeah.
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Like, that's a separate world.
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It's not it's not religious.
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It's just let's go and see what this haunted thing is.
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Like Beachum and all that stuff.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's crazy.
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And so when we go and do it, like we just did an investigation in St.
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Augustine, and I'm talking to the spirits.
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They have like a little box, and you can get voices.
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And I'm always thinking, like, what kind of people lived in that time and try to communicate?
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Like, it's a jail, 1800s, 19, early nine.
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There's some black people in here.
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So I start talking racial stuff.
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And the spirit starts talking.
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Back saying you're black and telling me, like, what did it say?
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It said some other crazy stuff to me.
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It was talking crazy.
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I'm gonna have the videos out soon.
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And then all of a sudden you hear a growl.
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But it's not in stereo, it's only in one ear.
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Now that's something that now I've experienced.
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Now when I go do it again, I know that these spirits are real.
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Yes.
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Now I'm not gonna say what they are, but I'm gonna say the first thing is I accept that it's real.
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Yeah, proof.
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I have proof now that the spirit world exists.
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Now that happened many, many years ago.
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So that was the case.
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So we both agree that it has to there has to be proof.
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Right.
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But there's none.
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But you did before you had proof, you had faith.
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No, I had questions.
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Questions, but in order for you to actually even do it.
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I won't concede to faith.
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Because think about it, like faith is the fool's word.
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You had the faith of a mustard seed.
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Yeah, you'll get into heaven.
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:45.440
No, no, I'm talking about for you.
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Oh, oh.
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Yes, that too.
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But I'm talking about like for the, let's say, for example, the spirits in St.
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Augustine.
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Yeah.
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You wouldn't have bought a box, spent your gas money, and even went over there.
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Yeah, no.
01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:57.679
If you didn't have that, like just enough to even invest.
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Right, but sometimes it's not faith, sometimes it's curiosity.
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Like when I first started doing it, I was like, I was reading books in like sixth grade.
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I'd read these books about the Warrens and stuff like that.
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And I'd listen to the radio stories, and then I would go to haunted places.
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But then I was in the church.
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So they were telling me, Oh, Carolyn, your son's reading demonic books.
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I'm like, I got these books in the church library.
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And they're talking about haunted places.
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And then I was like, spirits are real, but I also come from a family that's connected into other spiritual paths.
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So I always had like it's in our blood to just know certain things.
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Yeah.
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Some of us just know stuff.
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And then I would be like, Oh, I have a Native American great-grandmother who lives across the street, and she would tell, say things, and do things, and you'd see little things, but it was always like lion.
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Stay in Jesus, stay with Jesus.
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And I was like, But Jesus ain't helping no nobody.
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Yeah.
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Like, is Jesus really helping you?
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So can I be honest with me?
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Like for me.
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Unless you're a pastor.
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Nah, but that's the only way Jesus helps you when you have a church.
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:51.920
No, no, no, no.
01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:52.719
You gotta have the church.
01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:54.400
You know I didn't start the church when I first got saved.
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Like no.
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You know I didn't even like I brought I was in the streets on my own.
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But because you have a church, you are more likely to reap the benefits of God.
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For example, when I go to church, they're gonna say, hey, offering plate, which I don't have a big problem with.
01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:10.239
I understand it, but in modern day I do have a problem with it in some places.
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I'll give my money and then I'll go say, But Pastor, help me pray for money.
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What sense does that make?
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So I don't do that.
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So for me, like for example, do I do it?
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Do we take offerings?
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100%.
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Do we encourage people to yeah?
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Because we got bills.
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I'm not against that.
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:28.560
We want we get we want we got staff, yeah.
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:30.399
Like you saw, it's like a whole operation.
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:31.039
It's not a joke.
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:35.439
So I always say this like ministry is not business, but there's a business aspect to ministry.
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Of course.
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So how did it start off with me?
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It didn't start off with that at all.
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Like I didn't even have the thoughts of even starting a church.
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:43.439
For me, it was I just experienced God.
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.119
I became a radical Christian.
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None of my family saved.
01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:47.439
Oh, really?
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:53.680
Now they are, but when I got saved, bro, my own blood brother, my only sibling, looked at me in my face and said, wait till you find out Jesus isn't real.
01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:53.920
Right.
01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:54.640
Then he blows up.
01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:55.840
How many years ago was that?
01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:57.119
Then he, this is uh 2019.
01:08:57.199 --> 01:08:57.760
Then he blows up.
01:08:58.319 --> 01:08:58.960
I'm here to help you.
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.239
Bro, but look, he blows up with millions of dollars in crypto.
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:04.399
He's like, and I'm I'm actually going broke.
01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:06.560
So remember, I was drug dealing, bro, before that.
01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:08.560
I was moving a lot of like a lot of drug weed.
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:08.800
Right.
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:13.680
So I'm making a hundred thousand a month, and I go to like I'm I'm done trapping, like I lose everything.
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:14.000
Right.
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:14.159
Yeah.
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:16.960
Like slowly, the two houses I I owned, I had to sell them.
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:18.079
My wife owned a home.
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:18.880
We have to sell her house.
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:22.000
I had two Mercedes Benzes and other cars that I was flipping at the auction, right?
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:22.720
Had to sell those.
01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:24.319
We end up getting just a Tahoe.
01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:28.319
I'm like my wife's beater Ultima, um, um Nissan Ultima.
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:28.479
Right.
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:29.760
And bro, we're living in an apartment.
01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:31.439
Me, her, my firstborn kid, and Kevin.
01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:32.720
That's actually my brother-in-law.
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:33.039
Oh, okay.
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:35.600
And like, and bro, I'm going broke straight up.
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:38.159
I'm going broke, and but I'm on, but I don't care.
01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:38.640
I'm on fire.
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:40.319
I got to Right, yeah, no, I appreciate that.
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:45.600
And I got to the point where God test, I believe God tested me to see if money was my idol.
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:49.680
And I, bro, I all I had left was a camper that I used to pray in.
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:53.359
The camper that I bought with drug money that I used to pray in, bro.
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:54.319
That was my secret place.
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:55.600
I used to go in that thing, bro.
01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:59.039
Like every day I had it connected with like up to like an outlet and all this stuff.
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:01.680
Like, that was my that was my like Oh, yeah.
01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:02.720
I remember that camper.
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:03.439
I remember hearing it.
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:04.319
I remember I yeah.
01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:05.359
Hearing about it, bro.
01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:06.399
That was my baby, bro.
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:09.680
Like, that was my I get away and I go pray and cry out to God type of thing.
01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:13.760
And bro, like when the Lord told me to sell it, I said, like I actually started wrestling with him.
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:15.039
How'd he tell you to sell it?
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:15.760
In prayer.
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:16.560
I hear the Lord's voice.
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:17.119
And he told me.
01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:18.159
You hear his actual voice.
01:10:18.319 --> 01:10:20.399
I could I've heard his I've heard his voice intrinsically.
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:21.520
I've heard impressions on my heart.
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:22.560
I've had dreams and visions.
01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:23.920
I've heard his voice through other people.
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:25.199
Have you seen his face?
01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:26.319
Have I seen his face?
01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:28.720
No, but I've seen him in his body in his glorified body.
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:29.439
Really?
01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:31.359
Like, bro, like yeah, one time.
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:33.439
Like the way I'm looking at each other.
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:35.199
Bro, it was the scariest thing of my life.
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:35.760
Straight up.
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:39.199
I was in Moravian Falls, and how do you know that's who it was?
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:43.199
It's so powerful that it's undeniable.
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:44.479
Because I've met spirits.
01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:48.720
I've met spirits inside of people, and it's like there's a definitely a reality of it.
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:49.600
There's an atmosphere.
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:58.239
But it's like if I first, for example, if I go to uh a misa and a spirit comes down in somebody, you know it's called mounting, and the spirits in them, you call it possession.
01:10:58.399 --> 01:10:58.560
Yeah.
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:03.520
And the spirit says certain things that we know that's A or that's B spirit.
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:03.680
Yeah.
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:05.760
And they'll be like, oh, Mark just came down.
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:07.359
Okay, how do we know it's Mark?
01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:08.880
Because Mark shakes his head like this.
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:09.359
Exactly.
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:10.000
You know what I mean?
01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:11.359
Character, attributes.
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:17.119
It's been passed down, kind of like an understanding of how these spirits, their characteristics.
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:18.239
God is just this.
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:19.359
No, no, no, no, no, no.
01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:21.199
That's what that's all I need real talking about.
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:22.159
Or he has come down like this.
01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:23.359
How does he say he comes to earth?
01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:24.880
Like man to man, though, like for real, for real?
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:25.840
No, what does it say in the Bible?
01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:30.399
When God comes surrounded in darkness and clouds and storms, that's how he walks.
01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:31.199
This is what says in this book.
01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:33.199
No, when he comes back on the book of Revelation, he's gonna come back to the remote.
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:33.600
No, no.
01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:39.439
When he came on earth, when God walks on earth, he says he comes surrounded in great darkness and storms.
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:40.079
That's the Bible.
01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:41.119
We're gonna have to go.
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:42.000
Oh, we're gonna.
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:42.399
We're gonna.
01:11:43.039 --> 01:11:43.760
But it's it's in there.
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:46.560
His voice is like thunder.
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:46.960
Right.
01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:49.039
He did come past, he did come like he has a shaky.
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:51.680
He has a nah Briancy Shango.
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:56.159
Because when I was in Voodoo in Santaria, I I believed that I was protected by Shango and all that.
01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:56.560
Really?
01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:58.479
Oh yeah, I used to wear the beads, the red and black beads.
01:11:58.560 --> 01:11:58.800
Yeah, yeah.
01:11:58.960 --> 01:11:59.279
Yeah, bro.
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:00.560
I used to the green and white.
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:03.199
I used to have the green, the green and yellow.
01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:03.359
Yeah.
01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:04.560
I think it's a Lego, right?
01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:04.800
Yeah.
01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:05.039
Yep.
01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:06.720
I used to have the blue and white, I think it is.
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:07.199
Okay.
01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:08.880
I like I had a bunch of beads.
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:09.439
Yeah, the Legacy.
01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:10.640
Yeah, bro.
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:12.960
And I used to get them blessed with the Florida water, cigar smoke.
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:13.199
Yeah.
01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:16.560
Go to the Mambo or the Santero.
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:18.720
I was I would sit down, get the readings.
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:20.079
I would get protected and blessed.
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:22.399
But you guys don't do like communion or anything.
01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:23.680
I love communion, bro.
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:24.399
You do do that?
01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:24.800
Yes.
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:25.279
Okay.
01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:26.800
Like with the bread and the wine or whatever.
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:29.199
We would have like the little cracker and the grape juice.
01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:29.359
Yeah.
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:30.720
You don't think that's a ritual?
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:31.600
I think that.
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.800
By definition, since like the Bible, the words change all day.
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:37.760
Do I do I think I need to do that to be protected?
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:40.079
Oh, see, that's an interesting concept.
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:40.960
I don't believe that.
01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:42.000
I didn't say that.
01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:42.479
I don't believe that.
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:44.159
I said, do you think that it's a ritual?
01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:44.800
A ritual.
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:45.920
So what's a what's a ritual?
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:48.960
Like I believe that going to church every Sunday is like a ceremony, a ritual.
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:51.359
It's something that I do, it's submissions that I put in order.
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:51.840
Facts.
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:53.279
Like like getting up in the morning and brushing my teeth.
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:53.920
That's a ritual.
01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:54.479
It's a ritual.
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:56.640
Anything we do repeatedly, like it's a ritual.
01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:57.840
I believe that, yeah, it's ritualistic.
01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:03.680
So you guys would say you guys often condemn my side and say, you guys have to do a ritual.
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:04.479
We don't.
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:05.840
But everyone does rituals.
01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:06.720
Praying is a ritual.
01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:08.640
Yeah, like praying every day, right?
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:10.960
Like, do I do that to get things from God?
01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:11.920
That's the difference.
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:12.239
Okay.
01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:14.880
So I don't pray so that God would do things for me.
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:16.880
And there is a side of transactional Christianity.
01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:18.399
Oh, yeah, yeah, we know that.
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:19.600
And I think that's what you've seen, bro.
01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:20.000
Like for real.
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:20.479
No, no, no.
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:21.039
That's not what I see.
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:24.000
I just realized it because the spirit just came to me and said that.
01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:29.199
Yeah, there's a whole side of transactional Christianity, bro, where people say, You got to pay for deliverance.
01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:29.600
Right.
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:30.800
You have to pay for healing.
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:31.039
Right.
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:31.840
That's where it's.
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:33.359
If you don't pay me, I won't pray.
01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:33.680
Right.
01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:36.560
And that's not what I believe is demonic.
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:37.039
Okay.
01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:42.000
Like I believe that that's what, like, like you, like, for example, you like you get people have to pay you for a ritual.
01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:42.239
Right.
01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:42.880
That's straight.
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:43.680
Like it's just the truth.
01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:44.479
It's a it's a job.
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:45.199
Yeah, it's a job.
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:46.000
They have to pay you.
01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:47.039
For me, I go out.
01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:47.600
You see me, bro.
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:48.319
We're there on Fridays.
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:48.880
I go out to the streets.
01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:49.680
But do you know why?
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:52.079
You know we pray for downtown Orlando when we're doing all that?
01:13:52.319 --> 01:13:52.960
I don't get paid.
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:53.760
No, I know that.
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:56.079
We're out there for free on a Friday night.
01:13:56.159 --> 01:13:58.720
Like, so like it's like so I believe.
01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:00.399
But it helps, it helps the brand.
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:04.000
It's part of the system, it's part of the ecosystem of who you've become.
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:04.239
Yeah.
01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:06.319
Of this machine of Richard Lorenzo Jr.
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:07.520
It's an offering.
01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:13.840
So like so, like, so so if someone comes and they say, Man, man, God put it on my heart to give 50 cents.
01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:14.960
Amen.
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:15.680
That's amazing.
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:20.159
Like, give your 50 cents, give your$1.50, whatever the Lord puts on your heart.
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:24.239
But I don't say, okay, you must give this amount of money to receive this.
01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:25.279
No, you know why?
01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:26.079
That's transactional.
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:27.920
That's the difference between you and I.
01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:29.760
I do not worship anything.
01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:30.079
Yeah.
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:32.319
So therefore, I am transactional.
01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:32.560
Yeah.
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:36.880
I'm also have the capability of like if she needs something, I'm not going to charge her.
01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:37.600
She's my girl.
01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:40.399
Or if my brother, I'm going to do it for my loved ones.
01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:40.800
For free.
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:43.520
Everybody, even friends, I'll be like, just give me what I need.
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:45.119
Like, give me the cigars in the room.
01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:45.359
Yeah.
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:45.680
Right?
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:46.960
And I'll do the work.
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:51.840
But it's because I don't look in my spirit as saying, I am in love with this spirit.
01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:52.640
I worship it.
01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:53.520
I venerate.
01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:54.640
I respect.
01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:58.560
But you guys worship and love your God.
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:00.640
You're more likely to difference.
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:01.920
Yeah, you love yourself and others.
01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:04.079
You do it because you're actually in worshiping.
01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:07.520
You're in that you're in that submissive state under of a spirit.
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:10.159
And I I never let those words come out of my mouth.
01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:13.760
And that's saying I want to be submission, I want to be a sheep.
01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:16.239
At that point, you know, like they say use sheep to slaughter.
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:16.720
Yeah.
01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:17.760
That's how they get you.
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:19.680
A sheep to the slaughter, it's true.
01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:20.560
Like we go to the cross.
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:23.600
What that means is that means you can chop the first sheep's head off and the next one walks right up.
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:24.319
So think about it.
01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:27.520
Like our whole life, our whole life is a sacrifice onto God.
01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:28.079
That's what we believe.
01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:29.279
That's what I want to know.
01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:30.000
What's the end goal?
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:32.319
So the end goal, number one, is eternal life.
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:33.520
But you already have that.
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:36.960
Ah man, no, you don't have eternal bodily life ever, right?
01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:38.640
So I we're never gonna get that.
01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:39.840
Do you believe in hell?
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:40.800
No, what is that?
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:41.840
So you don't believe in hell?
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:48.720
So like from what I believe, from what I've heard from many people who have literally died and soul came out their body and they went to have seen demons.
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:52.560
And I know this from the scriptures alone, and just from bro, hell is real, bro.
01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:55.600
Like it's not like on some like, oh, this is just fictitious.
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:57.920
No, like there's a real place of torment.
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:00.000
So I first of all, I don't want to go there.
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:00.479
That's the truth.
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:02.960
I'm not gonna sit here on camera and say, I'm not worried about that.
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:04.960
No, like I come to Christ, I get saved.
01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:06.800
I'm like, wow, thank God I'm not going there.
01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:09.279
Right before I think I thought it was super fake.
01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:12.720
I used to think like Christians are dumb and brainwashed, like straight.
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:14.079
I used to laugh at Christians.
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:19.840
Right in the military, I got one of my Christian friends who was a virgin, never been drunk in his life, convinced them to get drunk.
01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:22.399
And like, and he was at a fiance and everything, bro.
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:23.680
Like, like I did evil things.
01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:23.920
Right.
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:24.960
Like I was that guy.
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:27.359
Like I was very, very evil, bro.
01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:27.840
Okay.
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:30.880
Like I would put people on the trapping, like never trapped in their life.
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:32.800
I was pushing witchcraft.
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:33.199
Like it was.
01:16:33.359 --> 01:16:37.840
But you're that type of personality that what you do, you try to put your other people on.
01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:39.840
If you're scamming, you're gonna help your people skate.
01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:41.520
You're gonna be like, This is what I'm on, let me show you.
01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:42.399
I'm working out, bro.
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:43.039
Come to the gym.
01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:43.600
Leader.
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:44.079
You're a leader.
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:44.640
Exactly.
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:46.079
So like it was just a natural gift.
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:46.800
Exactly.
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:49.760
But then and I thought, but when I would do those things, I thought I was doing the right thing.
01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:52.079
So like I put my I put my boy on the trap and who never sold.
01:16:52.159 --> 01:16:56.560
I was like, I'm gonna put him on to get money because I love my brother and I want to I don't want him to work a nine to five anymore.
01:16:56.640 --> 01:16:56.720
Right.
01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:01.600
If it was it was the get the dude to lose his virginity and get him drunk, it's because I'm like, bro, you're 21, like this ain't right.
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:03.119
Like Christianity has brainwashed you.
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:04.800
You need to get drunk, you need to experience life.
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:09.279
That was my I didn't know that what I was doing was actually harming him more than helping them.
01:17:09.439 --> 01:17:09.760
Correct.
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:13.039
So like I come to Christ, it's just like it's like we like we have to believe in something.
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:19.760
So I used to believe in my own religion, with everything, everything I was taught along the way, whatever sounded good, philosophy, books, whatever.
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:23.199
But deep down, bro, I would always be like, nah, like I there's more.
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:25.279
Right, but I don't think that comes from this book.
01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:27.119
I think this book makes me more evil.
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:35.680
So I feel like if I were to live according to the conditioning that I get from reading the Bible, like if this was a movie, it wouldn't play very well.
01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:38.079
It's just it's kind of dark.
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:39.920
Can that book be used for evil?
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:41.920
Look at the Hebrew Israelites.
01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:46.000
They take the book and they know scripture, like the like probably better better than me.
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:46.880
But they just read it.
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:51.920
The funny part is if you just read the word, it sounds exact crazy, and that's all we're supposed to do.
01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:53.680
Reading with no revelation.
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:55.439
But we're now I have to trust another man.
01:17:55.600 --> 01:18:00.720
Because if I go to Hebrew Israelites, this is why I talk to Hebrew Israelites, and this I always ask them, I say, have you ever experienced the presence of God?
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:01.119
No.
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:03.039
Have you ever casted out a demon?
01:18:03.199 --> 01:18:03.439
No.
01:18:03.600 --> 01:18:05.119
Have you ever seen someone healed?
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:05.680
No.
01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:10.800
Have you ever had an encounter or some type of experience supernatural with God?
01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:11.279
No.
01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:12.479
Well, they're full of crap too.
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:14.880
It's let's what the scriptures say.
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:16.479
The letter literally kills.
01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:17.039
Okay.
01:18:17.439 --> 01:18:19.760
And this like, bro, the the spirit gives life.
01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:23.680
The the the Old Testament Jews, uh-huh, bro, they knew the Torah front and back.
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:24.000
Right, yeah.
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:25.680
And they yoked the people up.
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.439
So Jesus comes on the scene, he went at the religious leader.
01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:31.840
He's like, yo, you guys are putting my people in bondage.
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:33.039
And you know how he proved it?
01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:37.279
I'm gonna cast out devils in the temple amongst the believers.
01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:46.319
I'm gonna cast out devils, I'm gonna heal the sick, and they got pissed off because the people that they were prostituting for their own benefit, now they're losing them.
01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:51.840
And now this guy comes on the scene, was moving in something they don't actually following the very book they're supposed to know.
01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:54.800
Right, they're freaking out to the point they want them killed.
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:55.760
Yeah, of course.
01:18:55.920 --> 01:18:57.600
That makes perfect sense according to the story.
01:18:58.319 --> 01:18:59.520
It's a great movie, I always say.
01:18:59.680 --> 01:18:59.840
Right.
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:03.600
No, it is like if it was made into a movie, I would watch this movie, you know?
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:04.880
Like, remember the Ten Commandments?
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:05.840
Yeah, it's like it's great.
01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:07.439
It's like, oh, look what's going on.
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:11.520
But it's it's the stuff of movies and fantasies, it's a fictional book, essentially.
01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:16.560
But what if I but like for if I'm if I'm telling you I've experienced bro, like that's anecdotal.
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:20.800
For example, and I told you about this when I saw you, three and a half years my wife had breast cancer, bro.
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:22.000
You didn't even you didn't even know this.
01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:22.399
That's it.
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:22.960
No, no, no.
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:23.760
I remember you told me, yeah.
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:29.039
When I met you, bro, like this is like I didn't even tell you when I first met you, like I was like, bro, like she, like we were suffering for three and a half years.
01:19:29.119 --> 01:19:29.359
Yeah, yeah.
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:30.159
No, I appreciate that.
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:30.720
Yeah, bro.
01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:37.199
And I was and I was sitting there like, like, God, like, I'm seeing healings in front of me, all these things happening, like I'm seeing crazy miracles, bro.
01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:40.640
Even I got healed of an incredible disease that I had for seven years, nine years.
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.119
And bro, like I went through it for three and a half years.
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:54.319
And my wife did not want to, she did not, she didn't want to do the chemo, she didn't want to get the surgery, like, bro, like, and then if they say it's hormone driven, it's hormone driven, and she gets pregnant twice.
01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:55.920
Hormones going crazy.
01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:58.399
Yeah, and not just that, if it's a girl, it's even four times.
01:19:58.479 --> 01:19:59.520
She we had two girls.
01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:00.319
Oh, wow.
01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:03.600
So I'm thinking this entire time, God, is she gonna die?
01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:04.479
I got tested, bro.
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:05.279
Yeah, of course, yeah.
01:20:05.439 --> 01:20:08.239
I got tested to see if I would still believe, even if she died.
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:09.199
She even got tested.
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:13.039
I don't know if you know this, that my wife used to be in voodoo and all that stuff too.
01:20:13.119 --> 01:20:13.920
Her family's Haitian.
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:14.239
Yeah.
01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:17.760
So, like, I that's why when I went to Haiti and all this stuff, it was through her family.
01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:19.600
So she was even tested too, bro.
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:28.640
Like we went through serious testing, and we just, bro, we got to a point where my wife got a revelation from God where God told her to open up the word and it came straight to death has no sting.
01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:33.520
And what that means is like if even if we do die, it doesn't matter because spiritually, we're with him.
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:33.920
Right.
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:34.880
We're going to heaven.
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:36.640
And that's what we came into agreement with.
01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:37.279
Okay.
01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:41.359
A lot of days where I thought, man, like, my I'm gonna be a single father, all types of stuff.
01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:42.319
Oh, yeah, no, I know what you're doing.
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:44.319
And what are people gonna think if she doesn't get healed?
01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:45.760
That God is not real.
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:47.520
Oh, bro, I thought all types of things are.
01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:49.279
Right, because you're so stuck on that.
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:53.760
So I was married before, and my wife got cancer and she died.
01:20:54.159 --> 01:21:01.359
But it was two years of this going on, and I was like, okay, we can do rituals and we can do we can do spiritual work, let's just say that.
01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:05.920
And they'd be like, She's gonna die today, and then we'd do something, and then we'd get more time.
01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:13.760
So we were able to like buy two years, but I wasn't sitting there saying to myself, Whoa, my spiritual work doesn't help.
01:21:14.079 --> 01:21:15.439
Were you Christian when she got diagnosed?
01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:16.479
No, no, I was doing this.
01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:17.840
This was just some years ago.
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:19.119
This was in the last five years.
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:22.000
And I was already like, I knew I didn't know I didn't know it was like recent years.
01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:23.119
Yeah, yeah, it was like before.
01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:25.359
That's when like that was like some years ago.
01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:32.880
And so what happened was we'd go and do things, feed the earth, do this, do that, talk to the you have spirits, feed the spirit, do whatever we had to do.
01:21:33.119 --> 01:21:34.239
She's not in the religion.
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:35.439
I'm just doing this for her.
01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:37.680
And she would come back, come back.
01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:39.359
Like they'd be like, God put on life support today.
01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:41.119
I'd be at work, get a phone call, I'd be like, don't.
01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:42.880
Boom, go do what I gotta do.
01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:47.680
But in my mind, I never was saying when she did pass away, I knew she was going to pass away from this.
01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:51.199
It was like a type of thing where it was like, There's no beating this.
01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:52.720
It's keymo it's not gonna help.
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:54.000
Okay, what kind of cancer was it?
01:21:54.239 --> 01:22:07.760
It was a really weird cancer called Pewte Jagger syndrome, and like very few people get it, but you get it passed down, it like skips generation, and it like you get like polyps in your in your organs, and so your stomach blows up, or you're you just look like you're pregnant, but you're losing all your weight.
01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:14.560
And so I'm watching it and I'm like living this life, and I'm like, I have a real clarity, which gives you a sort of peace.
01:22:14.640 --> 01:22:19.520
Like it was hard, but I understood that was the journey that she had to live.
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:20.880
This is the life for her.
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:24.560
And if I was a Christian, I'd be like, oh my god, it was God's will.
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:25.439
No, no, no.
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:33.119
This is the will of the person before they come down, and she's gonna live this journey, she's gonna go through it, and she's gonna come back around again.
01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:37.920
That's way more powerful than just saying someone that I never seen just allowed it.
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:39.119
No, this is just part of life.
01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:40.399
Was she a Christian?
01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:41.359
Not really.
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:42.720
I would say like the way she was a child.
01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:43.920
She wasn't a Christian.
01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:46.960
No, she she believed in God and she did all that, and she would pray.
01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:47.760
They'd all pray.
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:51.600
And just like I was doing stuff, they're like she gave her life to Jesus, she believed the gospel, like I said.
01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:52.560
I don't think she was like that.
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:55.039
She wasn't like you, she was just kind of like culturally Christian.
01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:55.520
Okay.
01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:58.960
Like just, I'm a Christian because I'm not Muslim or Jewish or anything else.
01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:01.359
So when she first got diagnosed, you were already in witchcraft?
01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:02.880
Yeah, oh yeah, for years.
01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:08.319
This was like, I've been doing this since I was 26-ish.
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:11.039
I'm 47.
01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:12.960
Dang, you look young, bro.
01:23:13.119 --> 01:23:13.680
Yeah, thanks.
01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:25.680
No, so like when this was going on, you have the Christian side of her family who was like, they were hardcore, like out there praying and everything.
01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:27.439
And I was like, everything's good.
01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:31.119
You know, you'd have the chaplain come in at the hospital and they'd pray, and they'd be like, Can I pray?
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:32.159
And I'd be like, Yeah, go ahead.
01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:37.520
You know, like I have no problem with any of these things because I believe it's all just coming back to the person.
01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:41.279
My whole doctrine is that you are the power.
01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:42.880
You have to own your magic.
01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:48.960
And Christianity and other religions say, No, give your magic to someone else.
01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:51.279
Someone else controls it, Jesus, the Holy Ghost.
01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:52.000
No, no, it's you.
01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:54.960
You did rituals to try to for her to try like to get to the children.
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:59.760
To like to help her as much as we could, but it was like it was a death sentence, no matter what.
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:00.159
Like, you know.
01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:01.600
And the spirits couldn't stop it.
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:02.239
There's no way.
01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:04.239
You just some that's part of her path.
01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:07.600
The spirits could be like death, you can't stop death.
01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:09.600
So if you don't die, it wasn't your time.
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:10.960
And that's what I'm saying.
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:11.520
Like, death has to be.
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.159
So, like, for example, your wife, it was not her time.
01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:15.359
So, I'm gonna tell you this is crazy.
01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:17.439
So, you could maybe you I want to hear her perspective.
01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:19.439
Um, she did a 20, a 20-day fast.
01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:21.279
God told her, Oh, that works.
01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:22.319
And bro, I'll tell you this.
01:24:22.399 --> 01:24:24.640
Before that, she I think she did three days.
01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:27.680
I would do fast and she'd be like three days in, and like, I gotta eat.
01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:29.359
Like, she was not really about that life.
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:38.000
God tells her in Puerto Rico, actually, we're in Puerto Rico, we're in we're on a honeymoon, or not honeymoon anniversary, where uh we're just in the hotel and and God's like, You're gonna you're gonna fast.
01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:40.000
And she just bro, like had the grace by God.
01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:40.960
She gets through it.
01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:43.119
I think it was like the 15th or 16th day.
01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:46.319
Don't don't quote me on that, I don't remember what day it was, but it was far long in.
01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:49.199
She's in her closet praying, and the spirit of death enters.
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:59.279
And she sees the spirit of death with the if you if you know about it, with the cloak, with the the black cape, and the spirit of death has literally its hand on where the breast cancer was on her right side.
01:24:59.840 --> 01:25:01.439
And she literally can feel the claws.
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:04.159
She actually saw the nails and everything, and and she was freaking out.
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:05.680
And this is this is in the physical realm.
01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:07.119
This is not her in a trance.
01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:13.119
It's like and then she heard the Holy Spirit say, Rebuke it, and she said, In the name of you, and rebuked, and it left.
01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:13.600
Right?
01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:16.319
She gets through the 20-day fast, it starts getting worse.
01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:18.079
I thought it got better.
01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:19.920
And we go through all these things, bro.
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:27.439
And then when she actually did he get her breast removed, and and we we just were going like we were like, Look, but like God's uh we feel like we need to do the right thing, remove the breast.
01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:29.439
It's not that the the lump's not going away.
01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:29.840
Right.
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:34.560
She gets the um the report whenever they take the lump out, they do the report in the lab or whatever.
01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:37.840
They said that the cancer, bro, every time it would multiply it would die.
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:38.960
It just kept dying.
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:39.439
Really?
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:43.359
And they said that it stayed stage zero for three and a half years, and they don't understand why.
01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:45.199
And they said it never spread to anywhere else.
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:51.439
Bro, we're we're about to do like an interview with the doctors in Cali, like it was like some miracle, like doesn't make sense.
01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:55.439
So we and God actually gave her a bunch of dreams of what was gonna happen before it happened.
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:58.960
That she would have to go get surgery, that she would have to go do all these little things.
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:07.840
But it stemmed from a lot of spiritual things that she was that she was like just bitterness and unforgiveness and a lot of deep, deep things.
01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:17.680
And God showed her that his his plan was never for her to die, that he wanted her to live and she went through deliverance, healing, a lot of inner healing from things that she went through in the past with other people.
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:18.239
Right.
01:26:18.399 --> 01:26:20.960
And bro, like, and it's a miracle testimony.
01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:28.399
So I I know that God doesn't never his intention was never for anyone to die since the garden.
01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:32.720
That was never that's why it says, you surely will die if you do eat from this tree.
01:26:32.800 --> 01:26:34.560
So now we have to go through this life.
01:26:35.119 --> 01:26:42.239
No matter who you are, whether you're in witchcraft, whether you're a Muslim, whether you're a Christian, whether you're a Buddha, everyone, the Bible says it rains on the just and the unjust.
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:43.359
Everybody's gonna suffer.
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:53.680
Like you're gonna like it doesn't matter if you're got billions of dollars, yeah, if you're super successful and have a golden family and a white picket fence, everybody's gonna be going through something.
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:54.159
Right.
01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:59.439
But the key, I believe, like the key for everyone is to come out, like what people say, the matrix, right?
01:26:59.520 --> 01:26:59.760
Mm-hmm.
01:26:59.920 --> 01:27:02.079
It's to catch the revelation of why we're here.
01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:04.000
And there are many different truths, bro.
01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:04.479
There are.
01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:06.000
There's Islam, you go, right?
01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:09.199
I know Muslims, they they will like, they're not budging.
01:27:09.359 --> 01:27:09.920
No, they're not.
01:27:10.079 --> 01:27:11.520
They believe in Allah, yeah.
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:12.960
Like they're ready to die, bro.
01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:14.319
Yeah, literally, literally.
01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:14.640
Yeah.
01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:17.840
And like I've and I've and I've and I've seen, I've seen like people in witchcraft.
01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:21.840
You're not the only person that's in witchcraft, but I am actually like we we that I chop it up with.
01:27:22.479 --> 01:27:24.800
And I pray that we do get more people like that on this podcast.
01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:26.640
All types of backgrounds, that's the whole point of this.
01:27:26.720 --> 01:27:31.119
It's like, bro, like there, if there's all these different ways, there has to be one truth.
01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:32.640
There has to be.
01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:39.520
There has to be a truth, and the truth is like a tree with many branches of that truth.
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.279
Like, there's a truth that there is a spiritual because Muslims will believe in the spirit realm, right?
01:27:43.359 --> 01:27:43.600
Yes.
01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:44.239
That's a truth.
01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:46.800
Now we define the spirits different.
01:27:47.039 --> 01:27:51.520
I might say ancestors, someone else says your ancestors are demons, but it's like no, yeah, like like what I believe.
01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:53.920
That might not be a truth, but I believe we're debating it.
01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:54.800
Yeah, we're debating it.
01:27:54.880 --> 01:28:00.720
Like I believe that, like, I've seen them that that spirits can shape shift into the image of an Dead relative.
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:01.119
Right.
01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:04.159
Because when I got saved, bro, I told my wife, or she's my girl who's pregnant.
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:05.199
I'm saved now.
01:28:05.279 --> 01:28:06.399
We can't live in the same bed.
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:07.199
She cursed me out.
01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:08.159
Thought I was crazy.
01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:08.560
Oh.
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:09.199
Yeah, bro.
01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:10.640
Like she was like, What's wrong with this guy?
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:11.520
You were just a witch cat.
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:13.199
You're about to be a dual inducted warlock.
01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:14.560
Like her family was actually rooting me on.
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:15.119
They were happy.
01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:15.279
Yeah.
01:28:16.319 --> 01:28:17.520
I'm about to go to this guy.
01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:18.960
I was about to go to Haiti, Puerto Rico.
01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:19.840
You know, sleep in the cemeteries.
01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:21.920
What the hell is a dual inducted warlock?
01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:23.680
That's like the most annoying thing I've ever heard you say.
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.239
Because it's that word dual, it's rings in my head.
01:28:26.479 --> 01:28:35.279
So like dual inducted, meaning like they were gonna, the the the people that I was under in New Orleans, they were gonna take me to Porter to first to Haiti, sleep in the cemeteries, and then go to Puerto Rico.
01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:36.079
Okay, okay, I see.
01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:37.680
So I was gonna be initiate.
01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:39.279
Yeah, under voodoo in Santa Dia.
01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:39.680
Oh, okay.
01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:40.319
Oh, okay, yeah.
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:41.920
So like multi, yeah, that's like what I do.
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:43.039
I'm like in multiple things.
01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:43.439
Exactly.
01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:43.680
Yeah.
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:45.840
So I was gonna be uh all that stuff.
01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:48.000
I was bro, I was beat it up, altars everywhere.
01:28:48.319 --> 01:28:51.439
Same like bro, I was doing everything, like I was actually I got into shamanism.
01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:53.840
Yeah, I was with a shaman learning how to balance chakras.
01:28:53.920 --> 01:28:54.239
Oh yeah.
01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:55.039
I was deep, bro.
01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:56.000
Like I was I seen a lot.
01:28:56.079 --> 01:28:59.520
I'm not gonna I tell people I've seen things in witchcraft that's supernatural.
01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:01.039
Yeah, of course, because that's the truth.
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:04.880
No, what I mean is the truth is there is a supernatural.
01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:05.760
There's a realm.
01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:08.479
But then right, the truth is that there's a body.
01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:13.600
There's a truth that, for example, you said I've there's spirits that can shift into some facts.
01:29:13.680 --> 01:29:14.399
There's shapeshifting.
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:15.840
So you believe that there's shape-shifting spirits?
01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:16.479
Of course.
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:17.920
But I believe as above, so below.
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:22.960
So I believe that on earth there's an alligator and there's a hippopotamus, and there's a kitten, and there's a puppy.
01:29:23.119 --> 01:29:23.279
Yeah.
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:26.560
So in the spirit realm, I'm gonna have similar, I'm gonna have a mirror of that.
01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:29.439
I'm gonna have some spirits that are puppies, kittens, alligators.
01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:31.359
But here's the thing I'm the zookeeper.
01:29:31.760 --> 01:29:32.000
Wow.
01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:32.720
I'm gonna be good.
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:34.479
So you so you believe you control it all?
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:36.800
No, I don't control it, but I know how to respect it.
01:29:37.119 --> 01:29:37.199
Okay.
01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:38.239
Like I have a king.
01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:39.119
I operate with it.
01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:39.840
You know you have a cat.
01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:42.319
A cat can still scratch the life out of you, right?
01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:44.239
But usually you can control your kitten.
01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:44.800
Yeah, you can control it.
01:29:44.960 --> 01:29:45.439
Same with a dog.
01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:46.560
Some people have a king corso.
01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:47.279
Yeah, you rule it.
01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:47.680
You rule it.
01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:47.840
Right.
01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:49.199
Do you believe you can rule the spirit?
01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:49.840
No.
01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:52.800
I believe that I can work with them.
01:29:53.119 --> 01:29:54.880
I don't you don't rule your staff.
01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:56.239
You don't rule your team.
01:29:56.640 --> 01:29:57.199
We partner.
01:29:57.359 --> 01:29:57.520
Right.
01:29:57.680 --> 01:29:58.800
So you believe there's a partnership?
01:29:58.960 --> 01:29:59.760
Oh, most definitely.
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:01.760
There's an amicable agreement.
01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:03.520
You know God wants to partner with us.
01:30:03.840 --> 01:30:06.000
I mean, I don't think I don't want to partner with him.
01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:07.279
Even if he exists.
01:30:07.359 --> 01:30:09.840
I would I want to debate his existence, would be stupid.
01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:10.560
Not now though.
01:30:10.720 --> 01:30:11.279
You know what I mean?
01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:12.239
I can't I can't debate that.
01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:13.680
You don't want to partner with him for now.
01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:16.880
I already I was already partnered with him in my imagination station.
01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:22.399
And then when I grew up, it was like when I was a boy, I played with toys and I thought like this was really like a person.
01:30:22.560 --> 01:30:24.079
Then I grew up and I said it's just a doll.
01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:29.119
So I believe that like once you taste God is a toy that people play with in a crutch that people use.
01:30:29.359 --> 01:30:36.560
I believe once you taste, like once you experience of God truly, because I just there's a lot of people that are gonna watch this, yeah, who are like, I don't know what I should go.
01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:36.880
Right.
01:30:37.039 --> 01:30:39.840
Like I don't know if I should be Muslim in witchcraft, Christianity.
01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:41.359
You gotta go all around, I think.
01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:45.840
And like you, I I believe you should go go into the church, go into the mosque.
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:46.800
Go, like that's what I did.
01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:48.239
I sat with, I was just telling her on the way here.
01:30:48.319 --> 01:30:53.520
I said I've sat with the Hare Krishna's, I went to their whatever it's called, weird.
01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:57.760
I went with Muslims, I went with I did like their like Shahada.
01:30:58.000 --> 01:30:58.640
How was that with anything?
01:30:58.880 --> 01:30:59.760
Oh you you did that?
01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:07.039
Oh yeah, I've been everything at one point in my life because from Christianity I started saying there's gotta be something else because I wasn't jiving.
01:31:07.359 --> 01:31:09.039
So then I went, I became a Muslim for a short time.
01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:10.239
I was reading the Quran and all that.
01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:10.880
Why did you stand up?
01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:13.760
Because it's still the same, same, same joke.
01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:15.680
It's the same joke as the Bible to me.
01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:18.000
You you didn't experience anything supernatural.
01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:19.600
I always was living, I am supernatural.
01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:21.359
No, I'm talking about like through Islam though.
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:23.199
Through any of it, it's all my imagination.
01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:24.000
So what did you experience?
01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:25.760
What did you experience supernaturally through Islam?
01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:30.720
Through is everything that I was doing in my life that was supernatural, I uh accredited to Allah.
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:31.520
Oh now it's naturally.
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:34.880
Oh bruh.
01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:37.119
I know I'm saying I was doing witchcraft too.
01:31:37.279 --> 01:31:37.600
You know what I mean?
01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:43.760
When I was in voodoo, like the you know, like the godfather, the person in Haiti that was he told me he was like like like you need to study Islam.
01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:47.119
The only thing Islam gave me was like a peacefulness.
01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:48.640
It was like, oh, I'm peaceful.
01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:49.520
Yeah, I'm peaceful.
01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:50.239
Same with Jesus.
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:58.319
If I sit with Jesus, I'm just sitting on the the the side of the mountain valley and grass with some sheep, and I'm just no, get out of here.
01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:00.239
You know that that that's not how this walk is for me.
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:02.640
No, it's not that's how it's sold.
01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:11.520
It's always sold as I was suffering, my life sucked, I wanted to die, and I got this overwhelming peace, the Holy Ghost came over me.
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:14.800
No, your brain did something and it flipped on itself.
01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:15.680
You know, you know happening.
01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:18.399
You're like a turtle upside down, and now I gotta come and flip you back on your feet.
01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:20.159
So I don't know if you like power's in you.
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:23.439
Before I came to Christ, bro, I was the most like I still am.
01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:26.560
I was one of those people like I have to like kind of like you.
01:32:26.640 --> 01:32:28.079
I that's why I said we're very similar.
01:32:28.159 --> 01:32:29.760
I had to see it to believe it.
01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:30.159
Right.
01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:32.960
If I don't experience it, no, I and I appreciate that.
01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:34.800
I wasn't one of because I know you believe this.
01:32:34.880 --> 01:32:38.159
I look in your eyes and I know your brain is experienced these things.
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:47.119
Like, I did not want to, like, bro, like I was making a hundred thousand dollars a month off of drugs, and it was a great operation, and it and I would I would have probably kept going well.
01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:50.560
Yeah, like I was doing well, like I had everything on lock.
01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:59.199
And I and I believe, and actually I know, bro, the grace of God was on my life because there's so many times, bro, where I should have been dead, I should have been arrested, where close calls were.
01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:03.520
Had God not see because you don't protected me, bro.
01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:10.000
You I'm gonna say that this is something people won't tell you, but it should be told it's because you are who you are.
01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:13.119
You know, when the Bible says I am, you need to say that to yourself.
01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:17.039
I am I know you won't, but just break it, just hear what I'm saying.
01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:18.560
I am Mark, right?
01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:20.479
I am Fox, I am a father.
01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:23.119
So what about people who do get arrested?
01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:24.479
They get arrested because they are who they are?
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:25.600
Who they are, yes.
01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:26.960
There's differences in this world.
01:33:27.039 --> 01:33:29.920
We're not all there's a shepherd and there's different sheep, right?
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:31.359
So then there's nothing we could do about it.
01:33:31.600 --> 01:33:33.680
There is, but some things, okay.
01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:38.399
So we're all different, we all have different biology.
01:33:39.439 --> 01:33:42.159
How come LeBron can do what he does on basketball and I can't?
01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:43.279
Different body.
01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:44.079
Physically, right?
01:33:44.159 --> 01:33:45.119
But I could do other sports.
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:48.159
So because I am who I am, I can go be a bodybuilder.
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:51.840
Because I am who I am, someone can be a race car driver because they have certain skills.
01:33:52.159 --> 01:33:52.640
Body type, yeah.
01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:56.880
But because of who you are, you have to live your life different.
01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:04.479
So that's the big difference between So you believe that in our traditions, you should know this kind of, but you might not have been there long enough.
01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:07.039
But in our traditions, you know you have different paths.
01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:11.119
You know, they'll say, Oh, um you're a child of Shango.
01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:11.279
Yeah.
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:11.920
So guess what?
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:14.319
If you're a child of Shango, you're gonna get away with things differently.
01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:17.520
You're gonna be very vigilant about your family, very protective.
01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:20.000
You're gonna have issues in your life with women.
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:22.159
Yeah, you're gonna be too much of a playboy.
01:34:22.239 --> 01:34:22.960
There's certain things.
01:34:23.119 --> 01:34:23.760
So chill.
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:25.520
Watch how you do this, watch what you do.
01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:29.119
Someone else, they can say, You, you could be a great drug dealer, you'll be fine.
01:34:29.199 --> 01:34:30.640
But you don't get a parking ticket.
01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:33.840
Don't park wrong because you're everything you do against the law is against you.
01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:34.399
But but who teaches that?
01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:35.760
But Christianity just says there's one law.
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:37.760
Wait, there's one law.
01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:38.880
But think about that.
01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:40.880
But who teach like, but why do you believe that?
01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:43.119
Because that's a fact, because we're all different.
01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:45.680
So like I believe We can't all have the same experience.
01:34:45.840 --> 01:34:48.239
But in Christianity, everyone has the same experience.
01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:49.359
And I'm done with it.
01:34:49.520 --> 01:34:49.920
No, no, no.
01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:51.760
There's different destinies, but there's one God.
01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:54.159
So we believe there's one God, different destinies.
01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:54.560
Right.
01:34:54.800 --> 01:34:59.520
And when we partner with God in love, not in a place of transactional or slavery, okay.
01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:07.439
When we legit encounter him, when he reveals himself to us, when he gets we draw, we get drawn on and we finally come to know his love, he begins to disciple, like to train us up.
01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:07.840
Yes.
01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:16.399
And then once we get the revel, like once we prepare for our assignment, the more and more we prepare through the word, through prayer, through through experience, that's fine.
01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:21.039
That then things begin to get revealed and we walk in our destiny and purpose.
01:35:21.199 --> 01:35:24.399
My destiny and your destiny and in God is different.
01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:25.520
Right, that's exactly what you're doing.
01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:27.199
You just added God to them.
01:35:27.439 --> 01:35:31.920
Yeah, so like, but like the thing about it for us is the one thing that we don't believe is that we don't follow evil.
01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:33.039
But what's evil?
01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:35.920
So evil is what is it's defined as anything against God.
01:35:36.159 --> 01:35:37.760
Yeah, but anything against his law.
01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:38.399
His law.
01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:38.720
Yeah.
01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:41.199
But I don't know his law.
01:35:41.439 --> 01:35:42.319
I don't know his law.
01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:43.439
And before I came to Christ.
01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:45.920
So can I be, am I just evil if I don't know the law?
01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:50.000
So what the Bible says, and this is what I believe, is before we come to Christ, we don't know nothing.
01:35:50.079 --> 01:35:53.920
Okay, we are we are just under the under sin, under deception.
01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:54.800
Like we just don't know.
01:35:54.880 --> 01:36:00.479
But then when we come to a revelation of God, that's when we begin to line up with the purposes and plans you already had since before we were.
01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:03.920
And it sounds it sounds like a perfect pamphlet.
01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:05.119
It is to nowhere.
01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:06.239
It's the perfect direction.
01:36:06.399 --> 01:36:07.359
Let me ask you a question.
01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:14.319
Do you thank God for being that person before you became a Christian, before you were saved?
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:15.279
Let's just use that term.
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:17.600
Because you said, We're born into sin, right?
01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:18.000
Yes.
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:19.199
Not my fault, Brother.
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:20.720
Why why'd you make me this way?
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:20.960
Yeah.
01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:23.439
Oh, wait, no, let me fall on my knees and worship you.
01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:25.039
He didn't make He didn't make us this way.
01:36:25.119 --> 01:36:25.680
This is this is this.
01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:26.319
Yes, he did.
01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:31.279
God is all powerful and all perfect, and he made us with the well-knowledge that we would sin.
01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:31.840
Good.
01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:35.520
He put Adam and Eve in the garden separate from all the other people.
01:36:35.760 --> 01:36:40.079
Because apparently after they had kids, they left out the garden and there was other people.
01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:41.199
Who knows where they were?
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:42.319
But the children.
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:44.399
Abel, Cain, like they were all born.
01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:44.720
Yeah.
01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:51.840
And then Cain killed Abel, and then God had to put a mark on his head so that when he went out, they would know what he did.
01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:52.960
But who would know?
01:36:53.199 --> 01:36:57.439
You see, we forget things in the Bible because we the one thing I want to say about Christians is.
01:36:57.760 --> 01:36:58.239
I believe in this.
01:36:58.960 --> 01:36:59.680
I believe in the scriptures.
01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:04.000
See, when I talk to you, it's different because you're the head of the organization.
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:05.520
We'll say you're the head of the church, right?
01:37:05.680 --> 01:37:05.760
No.
01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:06.960
No, you are.
01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:07.760
You're the leader of your church.
01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:08.560
Oh, the church of the rock.
01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:08.960
Yeah, yeah.
01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:10.800
Like the overseer.
01:37:11.039 --> 01:37:11.760
What do you want to call it?
01:37:12.399 --> 01:37:12.880
The gathering.
01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:13.840
Your organization.
01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:14.960
Like the term.
01:37:15.279 --> 01:37:17.920
I from what I believe, like truly in my heart, is a team lead.
01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:18.560
It's his church.
01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:20.640
Because if I die, it'll continue.
01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:22.399
You just can't take credit.
01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:23.439
Not even a little bit.
01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:25.359
They're gonna say, you know what they're gonna say?
01:37:25.439 --> 01:37:29.199
They're gonna say he's being like, I'm trying to be Lucifer to you and get you to like accept.
01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:32.000
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:37:32.079 --> 01:37:33.520
Like, this is like I want them to say that.
01:37:33.680 --> 01:37:35.520
I don't mind if they say that, but the fact is I am.
01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:37.760
I'm trying to get you to see Because bro, I didn't want a church.
01:37:37.840 --> 01:37:39.439
I didn't even, I didn't like if I get it.
01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:41.279
I wouldn't but because who you are, let me tell you something.
01:37:41.439 --> 01:37:43.439
We are so similar on opposite sides.
01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:46.239
And it's so funny because it's like halo, horns.
01:37:46.560 --> 01:37:49.840
But the difference is if we switch, we'd both be successful at it.
01:37:50.079 --> 01:37:52.479
If we decide to go be Muslims, we'd be good Muslims.
01:37:52.640 --> 01:37:55.039
If we decide to start a cult, we could start a cult.
01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:55.199
Yeah.
01:37:55.439 --> 01:37:56.479
And we'd be good at it.
01:37:56.640 --> 01:38:00.479
And it's not because the cult is good, Muslim is good, it's because of who we are.
01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:01.279
The gift of leadership.
01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:03.199
Romans 8 talks about it.
01:38:03.279 --> 01:38:03.920
The gift of rulership.
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:04.079
Right.
01:38:04.960 --> 01:38:05.359
There's like something.
01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:06.159
Everyone doesn't have it.
01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:07.279
Some people are prophetic.
01:38:07.359 --> 01:38:08.479
Some people have the gift of discernment.
01:38:09.680 --> 01:38:10.560
Do you accept that in yourself?
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:12.079
That I have a gift of leadership in this?
01:38:12.399 --> 01:38:12.640
100%.
01:38:13.039 --> 01:38:14.720
Do you accept that you are different than other people?
01:38:14.960 --> 01:38:15.199
100%.
01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:16.720
You have a uh a gift?
01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:18.960
I'm actually unique and there's nobody else that's made like me.
01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:19.439
Thank you.
01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:19.840
Yes.
01:38:20.079 --> 01:38:21.359
We're very similar in many ways.
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:22.000
So we've got to do that.
01:38:22.159 --> 01:38:23.119
Yeah, we do have similarities, yes.
01:38:24.239 --> 01:38:30.239
Whatever you put us into, it's like I used to sell drugs and I was very successful, and I'd walk around selling my heroin.
01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:33.039
You know, I had just phone call, okay, boom, go drop a brick off.
01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:33.840
That's all I did.
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:35.439
Didn't pedal in the street.
01:38:35.600 --> 01:38:38.720
Then I had I became a dancer and I was very successful with that.
01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:39.680
I had dance studios.
01:38:39.840 --> 01:38:42.800
Then I I was doing fitness and I was very successful with the fitness game.
01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:45.039
Anything I get into, I like take over.
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:45.760
You thrive.
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:45.920
Yeah.
01:38:46.239 --> 01:38:47.359
Because you have the gift of the gift.
01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:49.920
That's why you were you were you were wanted to be a pastor.
01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:50.239
Right.
01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:51.840
Because you were gonna lead in Christianity.
01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:52.960
Now I'm doing the same thing.
01:38:53.119 --> 01:38:54.479
Which I believe is developing a coven.
01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:56.319
It's your c I believe that's your calling.
01:38:56.479 --> 01:38:58.159
I should call my coven the rock.
01:38:58.399 --> 01:38:58.960
This guy.
01:38:59.199 --> 01:38:59.840
No, I wouldn't do that.
01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:02.319
But a coven is like is like a group of witches.
01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:03.039
Yeah.
01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:07.680
And I I've I've started creating the like the whole system behind it, like foundation of it.
01:39:07.760 --> 01:39:10.479
It's just now that's gonna start happening moving forward now.
01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:13.439
Is it gonna be like a nonprofit or is it gonna be like or secretive?
01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:15.039
It's what do you mean secretive?
01:39:15.199 --> 01:39:17.199
Like is it gonna be like like you know how like for the church?
01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:18.399
It's a nonprofit five.
01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:19.760
Oh yeah, we're a religious organization.
01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:22.640
As I say, because like I can't just make decisions and take money like that.
01:39:22.720 --> 01:39:25.600
Like if people donate, like if there's a board, like oh yeah, there's all that.
01:39:26.239 --> 01:39:28.720
I have like the whole handbook ready.
01:39:28.880 --> 01:39:30.479
And so people people don't know that.
01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:36.640
They think a church is just like all the money's just coming to if I touch certain money, we have like we have a CPA.
01:39:37.039 --> 01:39:38.479
No, I I I see what you have.
01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:41.680
Yeah, it's legit organizationally, there's no way you're just taking the money for yourself.
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:46.079
If I do that friggin' truck cooked, that raff truck that's crazy, bro.
01:39:46.159 --> 01:39:47.359
That was like I was I was shocked with that.
01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:49.760
People sowed into that as one-on-one transformer type thing.
01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:51.279
Right, but it's not Jesus that got it for you.
01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:51.840
That's the problem.
01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:53.359
I can't lie to you and say it was Jesus.
01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:56.560
I'm gonna say it was it was it was I got a dream.
01:39:56.640 --> 01:39:57.279
No, look, okay, okay.
01:39:57.359 --> 01:39:59.520
I want to I want to I want to show you where it's at, though.
01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:01.840
I have a dream, God shows me what he wants.
01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:03.359
Okay, I have a decision.
01:40:03.520 --> 01:40:05.279
Can I be like, no, I don't want to do this?
01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:05.840
It's too hard.
01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:06.239
Yes.
01:40:06.399 --> 01:40:06.640
Of course.
01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:07.680
And will it not happen?
01:40:07.840 --> 01:40:08.960
It won't happen through us.
01:40:09.119 --> 01:40:13.199
But God is so powerful, He can give it, like, bro, He can do it through whoever He whoever has faith.
01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:16.399
So do I have to partner with God in order for that truck to happen?
01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:17.439
A hundred percent.
01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:19.199
But I can't take all the credit.
01:40:19.359 --> 01:40:26.159
Can I say I partnered with God to and we put work in and we people and people sold and we worked hard and we prayed?
01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:27.039
Yeah, we did.
01:40:27.199 --> 01:40:33.119
But at the at the end of the day, all like bro, we we first started off with a box truck, it was too heavy.
01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:35.920
We almost lost like$150,000, bro.
01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:36.479
Like for real.
01:40:36.560 --> 01:40:39.039
Like it was like I'm freaking out, and I said, God, what do I do?
01:40:39.279 --> 01:40:42.800
God literally threw that guy's brother, because he's freaking out too.
01:40:42.960 --> 01:40:44.079
His brother comes out of nowhere.
01:40:44.159 --> 01:40:45.119
Why don't you get a semi-truck?
01:40:45.199 --> 01:40:53.119
We fly into Houston, the semi-truck, the only one in the lot that can hold the weight that was available for sale because he did all the auctions, was a Peterbelt.
01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:56.479
We go to that Peterbelt, scripture all around the thing, bro.
01:40:56.720 --> 01:40:57.600
That's insanity.
01:40:57.760 --> 01:40:58.720
I'm freaking out.
01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:03.119
I'm like, and I'm there's no other, like there's it's a it's like an auction lot.
01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:05.039
There's a whole bunch of different trucks, right?
01:41:05.199 --> 01:41:09.119
But the one truck that can do what we need to do has scripture all over.
01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:11.680
And I'm like, bro, like, did you like who had who owned this?
01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:13.359
He was like, Oh, is this guy who was a trucker?
01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:15.359
He said, like, oh, his wife just passed away.
01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:19.760
He couldn't make the payments, so we took it on, and and it's a Peter bill worth this much.
01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:22.239
We're gonna give it to you for like bro, almost half off, bro.
01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:24.640
And a Peterbill is like real, it's like it's like a Mercedes-Benz.
01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:25.520
Yeah, no, that's a good one.
01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:26.079
You know what I'm saying?
01:41:26.159 --> 01:41:28.000
So, like, it was like, bro.
01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:30.159
Yeah, no, I I don't discredit any of that.
01:41:30.399 --> 01:41:34.239
So he showed me, God, hey, you're freaking out.
01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:34.720
Right.
01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:35.920
But I'm in control.
01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:38.800
So you pretty much have two personalities in your head.
01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:45.119
No, one that you call God and one that you call Richard, because you're saying that there's this God helping you, but it's it's just all you.
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:45.680
No, bro.
01:41:46.079 --> 01:41:47.199
I mean, that's just my real doctrine.
01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:50.000
I rebuke this.
01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:52.720
That's how I feel about like Christians.
01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:55.359
I feel like the successful Christians, it's them.
01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:58.720
If I took them out of Christianity, Allah would help them.
01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:01.439
If I put them in Judaism, whatever they got to do.
01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:04.479
If I was a Muslim, would I be radical and probably convert a lot of people?
01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:04.880
Yeah.
01:42:05.039 --> 01:42:06.479
Yes, because I have that gift of leading.
01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:07.199
There you go.
01:42:07.439 --> 01:42:08.159
You're no, you're right.
01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:08.960
I am.
01:42:09.119 --> 01:42:10.800
No, I believe we have gifts.
01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:11.600
And those gifts?
01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:12.159
Because I am?
01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:13.680
No, no, I'm not the I am.
01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:15.199
You are I am, but you I am.
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:17.039
Do you know when the Bible says he's the great I am?
01:42:17.199 --> 01:42:19.039
It means that he can be whatever's needed in any moment.
01:42:19.199 --> 01:42:20.640
For example, yesterday in your imagination.
01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:22.000
No, but like I'm gonna give you another one.
01:42:22.079 --> 01:42:23.279
You tell me if this is just coincidence.
01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:23.439
Yeah.
01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:24.239
Be honest, okay?
01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:24.479
Okay.
01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:27.439
We're at the airport, we're coming back from um, this is yesterday from um, where were we at?
01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:27.760
Cali.
01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:28.319
Cali.
01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:37.279
We're at the airport, bro, and we're in the line, and I go to the and and we're like 35 minutes at Alaskan Airlines before we have to go, we're freaking out because we're like, bro, we're not gonna make the flight.
01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:43.600
We go, the lady scans our ticket, our ticket, all you can't check in your bags, go to the guest services, we go, the lady scans our boarding pass.
01:42:43.680 --> 01:42:44.960
Okay, you're not gonna be able to make it.
01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:47.680
So I'm sitting there, like, okay, what are we gonna do?
01:42:47.760 --> 01:42:50.720
God, you just told me you got me because I heard him intrinsically say, I got you.
01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:50.960
Okay.
01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:52.399
And I'm like, okay, what's gonna happen?
01:42:52.720 --> 01:42:54.239
And I'm thinking, okay, talk to your manager.
01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:55.840
She's like, they're not here.
01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:57.359
You're just gonna have to get another flight.
01:42:57.439 --> 01:43:00.399
I'm like, look, I told my boys, I gotta go back and preach tonight.
01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:02.159
Y'all gotta just take all the bags.
01:43:02.319 --> 01:43:03.279
When's the next flight?
01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:03.920
9 p.m.
01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:05.439
They're gonna have to catch the red eye.
01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:06.720
They're like, bruh, like, no.
01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:09.119
And I'm like, look, bro, y'all gotta just do what you gotta do.
01:43:09.199 --> 01:43:09.600
I gotta go.
01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:11.039
They're like, babe, right, you good.
01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:12.720
I go on the line with um one of my boys.
01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:13.520
We were in line.
01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:20.159
Within that three-minute period, I get a call from one of them, yo, bro, they just delayed the flight 30 minutes.
01:43:20.399 --> 01:43:20.720
Okay.
01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:28.880
Within that three-minute period of scanning, uh-huh, saying no, walking to TSA, it gets delayed 30 minutes.
01:43:29.119 --> 01:43:31.920
We get to the terminal where the last four, like they're about to close.
01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:34.640
We can hear, we can hear last call for Orlando.
01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:36.239
We barely make it.
01:43:36.479 --> 01:43:39.920
They still ended up leaving at the exact same time they were supposed to leave.
01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:41.439
So it really didn't even get delayed.
01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:43.760
And we got back at the we got back at 6.15 p.m.
01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:44.159
Okay.
01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:46.319
And service started at 6, got there at 7.15.
01:43:46.399 --> 01:43:46.640
Yeah.
01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:48.000
Is that just a coincidence?
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:48.880
Yeah.
01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:51.439
I mean, it's whatever you want to make it.
01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:52.239
Oh, good.
01:43:52.479 --> 01:43:53.359
Because I'll tell you this.
01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:58.239
If I am the I am, if I'm God, I could, bro, there's no, see, I am doesn't mean God.
01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:00.640
I am means I am what I am.
01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:02.960
When I say it is an empowering statement.
01:44:03.119 --> 01:44:03.760
I am.
01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:05.279
I'm accepting who I am.
01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:06.640
Do I believe that and ugly?
01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:08.960
Do I believe that I am Richard?
01:44:09.199 --> 01:44:11.840
I am gifted with the gift of rulership.
01:44:12.319 --> 01:44:13.279
Listen to your story.
01:44:13.439 --> 01:44:13.760
Yeah.
01:44:13.920 --> 01:44:16.000
You you don't go from that to that by accident.
01:44:16.239 --> 01:44:17.680
No, but do I'm gonna say God did it.
01:44:17.760 --> 01:44:18.239
No, no, no.
01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:21.039
No, but but do I believe that I had I've been had gifts since I was born?
01:44:21.119 --> 01:44:21.359
Yeah.
01:44:22.159 --> 01:44:22.720
10,000.
01:44:22.800 --> 01:44:26.560
Anyone that knows me from the world, they'll tell you, yo, Rich, you was radical, bro.
01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:27.680
I was radical for the devil.
01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:28.399
17 years old.
01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:30.399
Why you have to be radical for yourself?
01:44:30.800 --> 01:44:33.840
Because, and and I'll be honest, I was radical for myself.
01:44:33.920 --> 01:44:34.079
Right.
01:44:34.239 --> 01:44:36.000
I didn't even think the devil was real.
01:44:36.239 --> 01:44:37.680
I didn't even think God was real.
01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:41.199
You were on the So for me, for me, I was like, I'm gonna get it on my own.
01:44:41.359 --> 01:44:43.920
So at 17, running up in houses, sticking to the city.
01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:44.640
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:44:44.720 --> 01:44:46.239
But that was also you were you were a kid.
01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:48.640
I was yeah, and I was trying to do the thing that I thought was right.
01:44:48.880 --> 01:44:49.840
Because my friends are doing it.
01:44:49.920 --> 01:44:51.840
I'm hearing it in music, I'm it's my culture.
01:44:52.079 --> 01:44:53.279
Girls will like me if I do it.
01:44:53.600 --> 01:44:54.479
It's all it's all influence.
01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:55.039
Then I'm stuff.
01:44:55.199 --> 01:44:57.119
Then I'm like, okay, I gotta go to college, I gotta go to the military.
01:44:57.199 --> 01:44:58.239
I'm doing things for me.
01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:01.680
I get it to and I'm chasing success.
01:45:02.079 --> 01:45:07.199
I'm chasing something to so that my I can look successful in front of my friends, my parents.
01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:10.319
Like, I don't want like, but then I'm also living two lives.
01:45:10.560 --> 01:45:11.760
But I'm doing it for me.
01:45:11.920 --> 01:45:12.079
Right.
01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:13.279
Real talk, you're right.
01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:17.760
I was doing it for me, and I was doing well, but I was unfulfilled.
01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:18.159
Right.
01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:20.560
Which I know you are unfulfilled.
01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:21.600
How what does that mean?
01:45:22.079 --> 01:45:22.960
Fulfilled with what?
01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:23.920
So unfulled.
01:45:24.159 --> 01:45:25.039
Nothing's filling me.
01:45:25.279 --> 01:45:33.279
When you when you're fulfilled, it's like you get to a point in life where you just, it's like, if this is it, and for the rest of my life, I'm cool with it.
01:45:33.520 --> 01:45:33.920
Right.
01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:34.960
That's how I feel.
01:45:35.039 --> 01:45:35.840
I've always felt that way.
01:45:35.920 --> 01:45:36.399
I don't think so.
01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:39.279
I've never only in Christianity was I having anxiety.
01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:51.199
Because I was afraid, like, I'm gonna wake up, and like I remember waking up sometimes as like a teenager or a kid, and I'd hear like airplanes, jets going over, and I'd wake up and nobody was home, and I thought the rapture happened.
01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:54.880
Because I'm I'm I'm being told, well, Jesus is gonna come anytime.
01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:58.000
Like he's been, I mean, it's been 2,000 years, he's not coming, and he's not pulling up.
01:45:58.239 --> 01:45:58.880
Two days in heaven.
01:45:59.039 --> 01:46:01.359
Two days in heaven, one a thousand years on earth is one day in heaven.
01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:02.079
How does that make sense?
01:46:02.319 --> 01:46:03.199
We're dog ears now?
01:46:03.359 --> 01:46:04.800
No, because think about this, right?
01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:08.159
Uh does God operate outside of time and space?
01:46:08.319 --> 01:46:09.439
Yes, even the spirit realm.
01:46:09.680 --> 01:46:10.079
Outside of time.
01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:10.560
There's no time.
01:46:10.880 --> 01:46:11.439
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:12.159
I see what you're saying.
01:46:12.239 --> 01:46:14.880
So it's like, like, really in heaven, this is light work.
01:46:15.039 --> 01:46:15.520
This is nothing.
01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:17.119
Like what we're we're looking at chronological.
01:46:17.439 --> 01:46:21.439
That's a good excuse for the Christian God not coming back.
01:46:21.760 --> 01:46:24.399
You know, like my whole life I've lived almost five decades.
01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:27.119
Every decade I hear end times, because why?
01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:28.640
What are the signs of the end times?
01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:30.800
War, famine, rumors, pestilence.
01:46:31.359 --> 01:46:32.079
The mark of the beast.
01:46:32.159 --> 01:46:32.720
It's always happening.
01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:33.520
Which is right around the corner.
01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:39.199
I know what they call it, but Neuralink coming out, the chip, AI.
01:46:41.279 --> 01:46:41.760
It's nothing new.
01:46:41.840 --> 01:46:42.239
None of that's new.
01:46:42.479 --> 01:46:47.600
The Bible literally talks about information, like expanding, like just more information coming out, the information age.
01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:56.640
And that's what the Bible always the whole problem with the Bible is that it aims to keep us, well, again, a sheep.
01:46:56.960 --> 01:46:59.920
The ignorance, an ignorant person is a great Christian.
01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:02.399
The person who doesn't ask questions is the greatest Christian.
01:47:02.640 --> 01:47:03.119
No, no, no.
01:47:03.279 --> 01:47:04.000
What's the best employee?
01:47:04.079 --> 01:47:05.600
No, no, but the one who doesn't know.
01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:06.159
I love questions.
01:47:06.479 --> 01:47:11.680
How many times you go try to get a job and they were like, they don't want to hire you because you're not a good employee.
01:47:11.840 --> 01:47:12.880
But you know, like I was that guy.
01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:16.079
I was that guy, and I encourage you a witch guy.
01:47:16.239 --> 01:47:17.039
No, I'm not a witch guy.
01:47:17.119 --> 01:47:17.760
And I said, which guy?
01:47:17.840 --> 01:47:18.640
You were a witch, what guy?
01:47:18.800 --> 01:47:25.119
Oh, as a Christian, after even after I had the encounter with God, bro, I had questions like Of course.
01:47:25.279 --> 01:47:31.199
And like, and I still do, but the thing about it is the Bible says, and it's the truth, because I've experienced it, if I ask, I shall receive.
01:47:31.279 --> 01:47:35.279
So what I do is I trust that if I ask in due time, I receive.
01:47:35.359 --> 01:47:35.680
Right.
01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:38.159
And bro, it always happens.
01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:40.399
It might it could happen in my believe that.
01:47:40.479 --> 01:47:50.560
It could happen in an hour, it could happen in a year, it could happen in like my wife, three and a half years of breast cancer suffering, and finally we get the report of remission, and it was like, bro, what the heck?
01:47:50.720 --> 01:47:50.880
Right.
01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:52.239
And now you have to.
01:47:52.399 --> 01:47:57.359
I understand I would do the same thing in your in your your um in your shoes.
01:47:57.600 --> 01:47:59.520
I'd be like, oh my goodness, this came.
01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:06.560
I am in this system, I'm going to interpret it through this lens, through the goggle, the the lens of the Bible.
01:48:06.720 --> 01:48:07.199
Yeah, the perspective.
01:48:07.600 --> 01:48:08.720
I'm interpreting my life.
01:48:09.039 --> 01:48:14.960
But let me ask you, if you didn't have everything that you've gotten now through Or experience with God.
01:48:15.199 --> 01:48:15.680
No, no, no.
01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:19.359
You had all the experiences, but you don't have the the lifestyle.
01:48:19.680 --> 01:48:23.680
For example, you were just now you just work at you just have a regular job, nine to five.
01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:27.199
If I just had a regular understanding, you'd still be on fire, you're gonna say yes, you have to say yes.
01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:28.000
But no, no.
01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:33.760
Honestly, would you be like I'm gonna keep it a buck of being like I promise you, bro, and then in the name of Jesus Christ that I love, bro.
01:48:33.840 --> 01:48:35.520
Like I'm looking in your eyes, I'm dead serious.
01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:42.720
Before any type of platform or money came, right, and and everybody that knows me, I was radical.
01:48:42.880 --> 01:48:43.199
Okay.
01:48:43.439 --> 01:48:45.600
Everything on video was already happening.
01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:46.479
Oh, okay.
01:48:46.640 --> 01:48:48.159
My wife used to get mad at me.
01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:49.600
Oh, see, that's just who you are.
01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:53.680
So again, it comes back to I'd be five hours in the streets evangelizing.
01:48:53.760 --> 01:48:56.239
Yeah, and my wife would be thinking I'm cheating on her because in the world I was a whore.
01:48:56.479 --> 01:48:56.960
I get that.
01:48:57.039 --> 01:48:57.359
Yeah, right.
01:48:57.520 --> 01:48:59.840
So, like, and I'm like, babe, I'm really not right.
01:48:59.920 --> 01:49:00.800
I'm cheating with Jesus.
01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:04.640
Like, I'm out here in the streets and I'm and I'm we're like people are getting encountered.
01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:07.039
I'd be bringing people to the house, baptizing them, and she's oh wow.
01:49:07.279 --> 01:49:10.560
She actually at one point had to be like, Man, like, am I gonna follow this?
01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:12.479
Like, he's not a regular Christian, right?
01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:14.720
Like, we'd be in the church, and she just wanted to be regular.
01:49:15.439 --> 01:49:16.880
She'll tell you, she'll tell anybody this.
01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:20.800
And she realized, like, and God had to speak to her, like, you understand this is not gonna stop.
01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:22.399
And she had to make a decision.
01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:24.399
Am I gonna really follow this or not?
01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:29.760
And she made that decision, went all in, and bro, like, then she started having her own crazy experiences.
01:49:29.920 --> 01:49:30.079
Right.
01:49:30.239 --> 01:49:31.199
She's a dream prophet.
01:49:31.279 --> 01:49:35.279
Yeah, so bro, she gets crazy dreams that come to pass every time.
01:49:35.439 --> 01:49:36.079
I believe it.
01:49:36.239 --> 01:49:37.279
Like wild stuff.
01:49:37.520 --> 01:49:39.359
Another I am, but no one wants to accept it.
01:49:39.600 --> 01:49:41.600
Because now look at this.
01:49:41.680 --> 01:49:43.439
Did she have that gift before she came to Christ?
01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:44.399
She did.
01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:45.359
She did.
01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:49.760
But if she wasn't with Christ, then you came across her, you can say that there wasn't it?
01:49:50.079 --> 01:49:50.720
It wasn't sanctified.
01:49:50.800 --> 01:49:54.479
So before she came to Christ, bro, God was already protecting her, showing her things, preparing her.
01:49:54.560 --> 01:49:56.239
She had a dream about me before I even met her.
01:49:56.640 --> 01:49:56.880
Okay.
01:49:57.279 --> 01:49:59.600
She had a literal dream of me in a pool with her with tattoos.
01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:00.239
Really?
01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:01.840
Bro, she her testimony's crazy.
01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:05.039
And she went out to the club with her friend drunk looking for the guy with tattoos.
01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:06.159
And I didn't even know her.
01:50:06.319 --> 01:50:06.560
Really?
01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:07.680
Met her on Tinder.
01:50:07.840 --> 01:50:08.319
Oh wow.
01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:13.760
When I was in Greece in the military, I'd matched with her because I used to have the passport account all the way in Fort Lauderdale where I'm from.
01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.319
So I knew I was about to fly back in before I go to Cali.
01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:17.920
I just wanted to hook up with the girl.
01:50:18.479 --> 01:50:19.600
She she matches with me.
01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:23.600
We we we we we you know, we we hook up, meeting in Miami, all these things, great.
01:50:23.680 --> 01:50:25.119
Like I didn't love her at all.
01:50:25.199 --> 01:50:25.359
Right.
01:50:25.520 --> 01:50:26.800
She didn't even realize it was me.
01:50:26.880 --> 01:50:30.159
We start talking long distance, and then bro, like I start liking her more and more.
01:50:30.319 --> 01:50:30.479
Of course.
01:50:30.720 --> 01:50:34.960
She comes to Cali, we're just chilling one day, and then she's like, Oh my god, I had a dream about you.
01:50:35.039 --> 01:50:38.880
And her friend, like, literally is the proof that she's like, Yo, you have because I was having my shirt off.
01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:40.560
She's like, You're the guy with tattoos.
01:50:40.640 --> 01:50:43.520
We ended up getting baptized in a in a pool together.
01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:44.479
Oh wow.
01:50:44.720 --> 01:50:51.119
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying is that was going on before she decided to define it as something.
01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:54.720
If there was no definitions, but she had no revelation of what it was, right?
01:50:55.039 --> 01:51:01.760
But if she was just doing that and she wasn't saying, I'm doing this because of Christ or the Bible, you guys say that's demonic.
01:51:01.920 --> 01:51:03.199
She got taken to heaven.
01:51:03.439 --> 01:51:04.319
I don't believe that.
01:51:04.479 --> 01:51:05.279
Bro, I'm telling you.
01:51:05.439 --> 01:51:06.000
I can't believe that.
01:51:06.079 --> 01:51:07.199
You know how I know it's real?
01:51:07.359 --> 01:51:08.000
You went with her?
01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:08.720
No, I didn't.
01:51:08.800 --> 01:51:08.880
Oh.
01:51:09.039 --> 01:51:10.720
I actually got rebuked by God that same night.
01:51:11.439 --> 01:51:18.319
I don't even think that's I I would beg to differ that that's not scripturally verified that you can go to heaven and come back.
01:51:18.640 --> 01:51:18.800
John.
01:51:19.199 --> 01:51:19.680
No, he didn't.
01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:20.720
On the island of Patmos.
01:51:20.880 --> 01:51:22.960
He had a whole that's the book of Revelation.
01:51:23.119 --> 01:51:24.960
That's it's all a dream.
01:51:26.640 --> 01:51:27.520
It was all a dream.
01:51:27.680 --> 01:51:29.039
Revelation is revelation.
01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:31.119
He had a revelation, and it's crazy.
01:51:31.279 --> 01:51:34.560
It starts off with this talking snake, it ends with a six-headed beast.
01:51:34.800 --> 01:51:36.880
But again, in their blazing.
01:51:37.119 --> 01:51:37.840
This is aliens.
01:51:37.920 --> 01:51:39.039
This is everything in this book.
01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:40.159
It's masterfully written.
01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:40.880
But think about this.
01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:43.600
The same night she goes to heaven and God shows her a lot of things.
01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:48.479
It's a long testimony, but God tells her, Jesus, forgive him and love, like love him unconditionally.
01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:49.039
He's a good man.
01:51:49.119 --> 01:51:54.479
Is the same night I get rebuked by God where God tells me you're gonna tell her everything you guys did before marriage.
01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:55.520
I can't speak to it.
01:51:55.680 --> 01:51:57.039
I just know it's probably not what you're doing.
01:51:57.199 --> 01:51:59.119
And then that I wake up, fear, like the fear of God.
01:51:59.199 --> 01:52:00.800
I wake up like literally trembling.
01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:01.760
She's walking the dog.
01:52:01.840 --> 01:52:03.439
She's about she comes back in, she's like, I had a dream.
01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:04.479
I'm like, I don't want to hear about this.
01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:05.520
I gotta tell you everything.
01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:08.880
I did this, I did this, I did this, and I'm going in.
01:52:08.960 --> 01:52:09.199
Uh-huh.
01:52:09.359 --> 01:52:11.439
The lipstick you found on my car that I said was my friends.
01:52:11.600 --> 01:52:12.399
It was a girl that went.
01:52:12.560 --> 01:52:15.199
I brought I brought to our apartment while you were at work.
01:52:15.279 --> 01:52:18.000
I was, bro, I I re I confessed everything.
01:52:18.159 --> 01:52:18.399
Okay.
01:52:18.560 --> 01:52:20.880
And she's looking at me, tears were coming down, but she's not freaking out.
01:52:20.960 --> 01:52:22.159
And she's a Haitian girl from New York.
01:52:22.239 --> 01:52:22.399
Right.
01:52:22.720 --> 01:52:24.640
So I'm thinking like she's about to swing on me, leave.
01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:26.079
Like, I'm just like, oh, what's gonna happen?
01:52:26.159 --> 01:52:26.800
I'm just gonna do it.
01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:28.640
And she goes, That's why God took me to heaven.
01:52:28.720 --> 01:52:30.399
So that same night, bro.
01:52:31.119 --> 01:52:32.239
You would say it's coincidence.
01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:32.960
How can you go?
01:52:33.199 --> 01:52:35.840
I just it just doesn't make sense to me.
01:52:36.079 --> 01:52:36.880
But I can't debate.
01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:39.840
See, here's the thing that's hard to debate in honesty and be like genuine.
01:52:39.920 --> 01:52:41.760
You can't debate someone's experience.
01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:48.000
Experience, but then you have to compare that experience with the truths of reality.
01:52:48.159 --> 01:52:48.399
Yeah.
01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:51.920
You know, people, only Christians go to all these, all this crazy stuff happens.
01:52:52.159 --> 01:52:53.199
Ezekiel, same thing.
01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:54.079
Only in the Bible it happens.
01:52:54.479 --> 01:52:55.920
You know, the the the angel with eyes.
01:52:56.079 --> 01:52:56.399
I mean Jesus.
01:52:56.880 --> 01:52:57.279
The wheels.
01:52:57.600 --> 01:52:58.720
They say, and then he came back.
01:52:58.800 --> 01:52:58.960
Yeah.
01:52:59.199 --> 01:53:03.039
But we have no physical proof of this man on earth, but we have tombs and pyramids.
01:53:03.359 --> 01:53:03.920
We have archaeological.
01:53:04.960 --> 01:53:05.520
We have there's none.
01:53:05.680 --> 01:53:06.079
There's so many.
01:53:06.319 --> 01:53:08.399
Every Christian says it, but they never they never bring it up.
01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:09.439
You haven't cited it?
01:53:09.680 --> 01:53:10.479
This is not real.
01:53:10.640 --> 01:53:11.920
Um it's just stuff that they say.
01:53:12.079 --> 01:53:13.359
You hear it, you get it, they say it.
01:53:13.600 --> 01:53:15.439
So the parts it would be us bringing information.
01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:20.560
So if I brought you if I brought you oh, it'll be it'll be if I brought you archaeological and scientific proof.
01:53:20.720 --> 01:53:21.359
That's what I want.
01:53:21.439 --> 01:53:24.560
I want, I want you believe it though ABC type.
01:53:24.800 --> 01:53:25.600
But would you believe it?
01:53:25.760 --> 01:53:27.520
I will believe if it's scientifically backed.
01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:27.920
Yes.
01:53:28.159 --> 01:53:29.039
Historically backed.
01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:34.159
I will have to look at it and see if the spirit says to me that it's So you so you trust in the spirit.
01:53:34.319 --> 01:53:34.880
No, my spirit.
01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:36.079
Yeah, you're I am.
01:53:36.399 --> 01:53:37.039
That's what I'm saying.
01:53:37.119 --> 01:53:38.159
You trust in your spirit.
01:53:38.319 --> 01:53:39.760
Yes, my spirit of discernment.
01:53:40.399 --> 01:53:41.680
Over history and science.
01:53:41.840 --> 01:53:43.439
Well, I would have to see it.
01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:44.239
Okay.
01:53:44.720 --> 01:53:49.279
It's like if Jesus walked in the room and said, I'm Jesus, and he came out, I'd be like, damn, you're real.
01:53:49.439 --> 01:53:49.760
Yeah.
01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:51.039
Now get out of my face.
01:53:51.199 --> 01:53:52.079
That's what I would do.
01:53:52.319 --> 01:53:54.960
I believe he's gonna show up to you.
01:53:55.039 --> 01:53:56.720
He could have, he should have done it 20 years ago.
01:53:56.880 --> 01:53:57.600
Bro, I promise you.
01:53:58.560 --> 01:53:59.119
You know what's funny?
01:53:59.199 --> 01:54:04.640
Is like I really feel and know that it can never happen.
01:54:04.880 --> 01:54:05.840
He's gonna show up, bro.
01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:08.399
He might show up, and I'm gonna, it's gonna be a problem for him.
01:54:09.119 --> 01:54:09.600
That's the problem.
01:54:10.479 --> 01:54:11.279
He couldn't do anything to me.
01:54:11.439 --> 01:54:14.479
I'd be like, bro, you're gonna drop Florida water.
01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:19.439
Bro, you're gonna drop because the glory is.
01:54:19.680 --> 01:54:20.479
I'm gonna sage you out.
01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:21.359
Oh my god.
01:54:21.439 --> 01:54:22.560
You're gonna sage you out.
01:54:22.800 --> 01:54:22.960
No.
01:54:23.680 --> 01:54:24.880
He wouldn't leave.
01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:26.960
Bro, he's too strong.
01:54:27.199 --> 01:54:27.600
Who?
01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:28.720
Jesus of Nazareth.
01:54:28.880 --> 01:54:29.600
He's actually not, though.
01:54:29.680 --> 01:54:30.319
He's the most powerful.
01:54:30.560 --> 01:54:31.119
You know why he's not?
01:54:31.279 --> 01:54:32.319
Because he died on that cross.
01:54:32.479 --> 01:54:33.279
And he resurrected.
01:54:33.439 --> 01:54:34.239
And he didn't want to die.
01:54:34.479 --> 01:54:35.119
And he was God.
01:54:35.359 --> 01:54:36.159
He did it for us.
01:54:36.319 --> 01:54:37.520
But do you think that's cool?
01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:40.800
Do you think it's cool that I kill chickens to spirits?
01:54:41.039 --> 01:54:42.000
I mean, the truth.
01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:43.039
I think that's crazy, right?
01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:46.880
I think what I think is that you're sacrifice sacrifices onto demonic spirits.
01:54:47.039 --> 01:54:48.079
Right, and it's not good to sacrifice.
01:54:48.319 --> 01:54:48.640
But you know what?
01:54:48.720 --> 01:54:49.439
But do you know why they do that?
01:54:49.520 --> 01:54:50.479
No, no, I know why they do it.
01:54:50.720 --> 01:54:51.600
It's blasphemy against the word.
01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:52.479
No, it's not.
01:54:52.720 --> 01:54:54.079
This was before the word, bro.
01:54:54.319 --> 01:54:57.840
No, they were doing it under the Africa was before the Bible.
01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:00.399
But the in the beginning, right?
01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:01.119
Genesis?
01:55:01.279 --> 01:55:03.039
Like first day, second day, third day, fourth day.
01:55:07.199 --> 01:55:08.399
So where's your African Bible?
01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:09.279
We don't have a Bible.
01:55:09.439 --> 01:55:09.760
Exactly.
01:55:10.079 --> 01:55:10.800
Because we don't need a Bible.
01:55:10.960 --> 01:55:11.439
It's faith.
01:55:11.600 --> 01:55:15.680
That's like saying my great-grandfather didn't have a cell phone.
01:55:16.319 --> 01:55:16.960
But you believe in mouth.
01:55:17.039 --> 01:55:17.600
Because he didn't need one.
01:55:17.760 --> 01:55:18.720
But you believe in word of mouth.
01:55:18.880 --> 01:55:19.439
Yes, of course.
01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:20.159
Traditions.
01:55:20.479 --> 01:55:21.359
My stuff is oral.
01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:22.000
Traditions.
01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:23.600
So then so think about it.
01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:27.039
And I've heard through many different people different things.
01:55:27.199 --> 01:55:29.039
There's so many different in witchcraft.
01:55:29.119 --> 01:55:30.239
There was I hear this out here.
01:55:30.319 --> 01:55:30.640
There's voodoo.
01:55:30.960 --> 01:55:31.920
Witchcraft is real wild.
01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:32.399
It's different.
01:55:32.640 --> 01:55:33.600
It like goes all over.
01:55:34.159 --> 01:55:34.399
Crazy.
01:55:34.720 --> 01:55:35.359
Crazy branches.
01:55:35.600 --> 01:55:40.000
Like you'll see people in voodoo say, like, or there's people that do the white magic and black magic.
01:55:40.479 --> 01:55:45.279
And every time I would say, I'm in voodoo, oh my gosh, they were and then, oh, I do voodoo.
01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:46.000
Or I do this.
01:55:46.399 --> 01:55:48.319
It's like, bro, it's so many different.
01:55:48.720 --> 01:55:51.680
There's no unity, and it's a whole bunch of like neither in Christianity.
01:55:52.399 --> 01:55:53.359
You guys have the least unity.
01:55:53.520 --> 01:55:54.319
And you know what's crazy?
01:55:55.279 --> 01:55:58.720
It's true, and it needs to end, it needs to stop because that's not even biblical.
01:55:58.960 --> 01:55:59.680
But you know why that is?
01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:03.359
It's because I believe human nature is gonna like it's sports.
01:56:03.520 --> 01:56:03.760
100%.
01:56:04.159 --> 01:56:07.119
Teams are gonna debate, people debate how to play the sport, it's immature.
01:56:07.199 --> 01:56:08.000
It's just the way it is.
01:56:08.079 --> 01:56:08.399
Yeah.
01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:14.159
But Christians take a high road and be like, we are the right ones.
01:56:14.319 --> 01:56:15.279
We are the basic.
01:56:15.439 --> 01:56:18.960
We are it's a very white supreme religion, essentially.
01:56:19.119 --> 01:56:21.680
Not what's very in that Jesus, Jesus wasn't white.
01:56:21.760 --> 01:56:22.880
I don't think from Nazareth.
01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:23.359
He was nothing.
01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:24.479
He was born in Beth in Beth.
01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:25.359
Like he was born in Beth.
01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:26.159
I mean, that's the story.
01:56:26.239 --> 01:56:27.920
I think we're for the sake of conversation.
01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:30.079
I don't subscribe to the idea that he existed.
01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:32.079
But I have to talk to you because you believe in him.
01:56:32.239 --> 01:56:34.319
Bro, he was he was like my color, our color.
01:56:34.479 --> 01:56:35.680
Maybe he was light-skinned.
01:56:35.760 --> 01:56:37.760
If he did, yeah, according to the story, yeah.
01:56:37.920 --> 01:56:40.000
And Spider-Man has red and blue tights.
01:56:40.399 --> 01:56:45.039
It doesn't mean he really can Why is he the most famous person ever spoken about?
01:56:45.600 --> 01:56:47.039
I don't know that to be true.
01:56:47.920 --> 01:56:49.279
Michael Jackson is just as famous.
01:56:49.520 --> 01:56:50.479
No, you no way.
01:56:50.640 --> 01:56:51.279
Yes, he is.
01:56:51.520 --> 01:56:52.159
Michael Jackson.
01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:56.479
If we go into if they went to tribes in the jungle, they didn't know Jesus, they knew Michael Jackson.
01:56:56.560 --> 01:56:57.119
But think about this.
01:56:57.279 --> 01:57:00.159
How Michael Jordan Michael Jackson was born in like 1960.
01:57:00.319 --> 01:57:01.920
Right, he's the most famous person now.
01:57:02.239 --> 01:57:04.800
But before the 1960s, nobody knew who he was.
01:57:05.119 --> 01:57:05.760
Right.
01:57:06.159 --> 01:57:07.840
But in our reality, that's all we have.
01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:10.800
Do you believe that people have been talking about Jesus for thousands of years?
01:57:11.039 --> 01:57:13.439
I do believe it, because it's all they have, 2,000 years.
01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:13.920
That's what.
01:57:14.079 --> 01:57:14.880
For 2,000 years.
01:57:15.119 --> 01:57:17.199
I mean, and before that, Isaiah talked about him.
01:57:17.359 --> 01:57:18.800
Ezekiel talked about him in the Torah.
01:57:19.760 --> 01:57:22.079
It's oh, it's it's it's they're called messianic prophecies.
01:57:22.159 --> 01:57:22.640
Yeah, I don't know that.
01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:24.239
No, it's in the it's in the Jewish Torah.
01:57:24.399 --> 01:57:25.439
I'm not debating, I'm saying I don't know that.
01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:28.399
Like even a Jewish person will tell you, like, yeah, like they won't say it's Jesus.
01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:30.000
Right, because they're saying someone's coming.
01:57:30.079 --> 01:57:30.640
They're waiting for it.
01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:32.720
They believe Elijah or some or somebody's gonna come.
01:57:32.880 --> 01:57:33.119
Right.
01:57:33.279 --> 01:57:40.560
But like that when it says in Isaiah, he was wounded for our transgressions, bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement of our peace was upon him, like all those things, it's it's pointing to Christ.
01:57:40.800 --> 01:57:42.239
So let me ask you this.
01:57:43.359 --> 01:57:44.960
Jesus died for our sins.
01:57:45.039 --> 01:57:45.199
Yeah.
01:57:45.359 --> 01:57:48.239
It said when he died, he washed away sin.
01:57:48.560 --> 01:57:49.039
Yes.
01:57:49.279 --> 01:57:51.760
But then why do we still have sin then?
01:57:51.840 --> 01:57:53.119
If he if he did it, so good.
01:57:53.279 --> 01:57:53.920
You know what I mean?
01:57:54.000 --> 01:57:54.159
Yeah.
01:57:54.239 --> 01:57:54.720
This is just a question.
01:57:54.800 --> 01:57:55.600
I'm not, I don't have an answer.
01:57:55.760 --> 01:57:56.159
No, it's good.
01:57:56.319 --> 01:57:57.439
I want to hear your perspective.
01:57:57.600 --> 01:58:01.279
If he had died, my layman brain would say, okay, he died for our sins.
01:58:01.359 --> 01:58:01.520
Amen.
01:58:01.760 --> 01:58:02.560
Now we're all good.
01:58:03.199 --> 01:58:04.079
But we're really not.
01:58:04.319 --> 01:58:06.960
We're like, we still have to go through everything that we go through.
01:58:07.039 --> 01:58:10.000
So how how do you guys what do you guys think about what do you think about that?
01:58:10.159 --> 01:58:11.600
So my birthday is 316, right?
01:58:11.760 --> 01:58:18.880
For God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
01:58:18.960 --> 01:58:19.039
Right.
01:58:19.119 --> 01:58:20.319
So it's like so it's a click.
01:58:20.479 --> 01:58:24.800
No, it's not it's not that it's a click, it's it's not even about, oh, you gotta be part of Christianity.
01:58:24.960 --> 01:58:26.880
Because Jesus never created Christianity.
01:58:27.039 --> 01:58:28.960
No, he never even created denominations.
01:58:29.119 --> 01:58:29.600
I believe that.
01:58:29.680 --> 01:58:31.439
That was never even the scriptures talk about it.
01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:36.000
Even Paul said, Some of you say you're a Paul, some of you say you're of Apollos, because people were so freaking out.
01:58:36.159 --> 01:58:36.479
Right, yeah.
01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:38.159
And he said, You guys forgot the whole point.
01:58:38.239 --> 01:58:40.720
It's not even about us, it's about Jesus.
01:58:40.880 --> 01:58:41.119
Right.
01:58:41.279 --> 01:58:47.359
People, and like you said, the human nature, people have like that clicked up in denominations.
01:58:47.600 --> 01:58:48.399
Because we wrote the Bible.
01:58:48.640 --> 01:58:50.319
I even hate saying I'm the I'm non-denominational.
01:58:50.479 --> 01:58:51.760
Even sometimes I'll say, Don't call me Christian.
01:58:51.840 --> 01:58:52.239
I'm a follower.
01:58:52.640 --> 01:58:53.039
Remember that, yeah.
01:58:53.359 --> 01:58:54.960
I'll say I'm a follower of the way.
01:58:55.199 --> 01:58:55.439
Okay.
01:58:55.600 --> 01:58:56.960
That's what they were called in the early church.
01:58:57.119 --> 01:59:00.159
And then they actually started using the word Christian as a derogatory term.
01:59:00.239 --> 01:59:00.479
Yeah.
01:59:00.720 --> 01:59:02.399
The Romans started calling them Christians.
01:59:02.640 --> 01:59:04.079
That's how I feel someone calls me a Christian.
01:59:04.159 --> 01:59:05.600
Yeah, they're this guy.
01:59:05.760 --> 01:59:07.520
So, but like, but so the sins of the world, right?
01:59:07.600 --> 01:59:14.720
So anyone who puts their faith in the savior and what he saved us from, we have to believe the message.
01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:15.199
Right.
01:59:15.359 --> 01:59:24.399
And once we do in the spirit realm, the sins that are accounted to us as debt, wiped clean from the past, the present, and the future.
01:59:24.640 --> 01:59:24.880
Okay.
01:59:24.960 --> 01:59:27.279
So it's just that that makes sense then on that.
01:59:27.359 --> 01:59:31.359
Because I was just wondering in my head, it came to me and I was like, well, how do we reckon that?
01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:34.239
You know, because if I'm just thinking, like Yeah.
01:59:34.399 --> 01:59:35.840
Romans 10 somebody just did it.
01:59:36.000 --> 01:59:37.920
Yeah, fact Romans 10, 9 says it's a simple.
01:59:38.159 --> 01:59:41.840
Which is ridiculous in the first place that we he would have to, because Do you know why though?
01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:52.880
Yeah, because he because somebody wrote this circular friggin' reality for us where it's like, I'm gonna put you there, know what you're gonna do, then hold you accountable for it, and then I gotta kill my son, which is audacious and crazy and that.
01:59:53.039 --> 01:59:54.079
Like, who's gonna kill their son?
01:59:54.159 --> 01:59:56.079
But in the Bible, they're always trying to kill some kids.
01:59:56.159 --> 01:59:58.880
Yeah, so it's like it is what it is.
01:59:59.119 --> 02:00:00.399
So why did he have to kill his son?
02:00:00.720 --> 02:00:03.439
So it's like they're ripping babies out of pregnant women in the Bible.
02:00:03.520 --> 02:00:04.640
Like, this is what the Bible is.
02:00:04.800 --> 02:00:06.880
The Bible is the evilest.
02:00:07.039 --> 02:00:09.279
It's I I would say it's probably one of the most evil books written.
02:00:09.359 --> 02:00:10.800
Have you ever read the Satanic Bible?
02:00:11.039 --> 02:00:11.439
Satanic?
02:00:11.680 --> 02:00:12.159
I haven't read it.
02:00:12.319 --> 02:00:16.399
It's like all good things, like the tenets of the satanic But it's I heard it's all about you.
02:00:16.720 --> 02:00:17.840
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.
02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:19.119
Like Satanism is all about.
02:00:19.279 --> 02:00:20.479
That's my think about it.
02:00:20.560 --> 02:00:21.760
Why is it called Satanism?
02:00:21.920 --> 02:00:23.439
Well, that's just someone picked that out.
02:00:23.600 --> 02:00:26.079
Because it's like an aggregor that we all just accept.
02:00:26.239 --> 02:00:26.800
God, Satan.
02:00:27.119 --> 02:00:27.359
Exactly.
02:00:27.680 --> 02:00:29.199
God, devil, there's neither.
02:00:29.439 --> 02:00:31.119
Why doesn't it say this is the Bible for you?
02:00:31.199 --> 02:00:32.800
Or this is the book for you?
02:00:33.119 --> 02:00:36.399
Because whoever's a man Satan is that blasphemous.
02:00:36.479 --> 02:00:38.640
No, because he's convinced people to follow a Bible reading.
02:00:38.880 --> 02:00:40.319
Satan is one of my good friends.
02:00:40.560 --> 02:00:42.159
Hey, if he's know why I say that?
02:00:42.479 --> 02:00:44.079
Because he is the adversary.
02:00:44.319 --> 02:00:46.079
He's the adversary of who?
02:00:46.640 --> 02:00:47.520
This other guy.
02:00:47.680 --> 02:00:47.840
Yeah.
02:00:48.079 --> 02:00:48.880
We don't know what his name is.
02:00:49.039 --> 02:00:50.159
Of humans, of us.
02:00:50.479 --> 02:00:52.159
But he's the one who liberated us.
02:00:52.399 --> 02:00:53.439
He already lost on the cross.
02:00:53.840 --> 02:00:54.479
That's what happened to me.
02:00:54.560 --> 02:01:04.000
One day I was sitting there when I was about 26, and I rethink things in the Bible, or I'll be watching stuff, because I'm always into this world of spirituality and religion.
02:01:04.159 --> 02:01:09.520
And I'm like, wait, what if the snake was helping us?
02:01:09.920 --> 02:01:16.720
Because why would I not want to be because I'm thinking about myself in my ego, which is the acceptance and the knowledge of myself.
02:01:16.960 --> 02:01:19.039
I want to be powerful, I want to be knowledgeable.
02:01:19.119 --> 02:01:20.079
I like to know.
02:01:20.800 --> 02:01:23.359
Why would I not want to get that power?
02:01:23.520 --> 02:01:28.800
I was like, if I was in the Garden of Eden, it would have been fox ate the apple and didn't give it to nobody.
02:01:29.039 --> 02:01:31.439
I wouldn't have told you to eat, I would have been like, yum, yum, yum.
02:01:31.600 --> 02:01:33.359
Now I know, and I'm sitting there like, yup.
02:01:33.520 --> 02:01:36.640
And then I would have called God down and been like, what's next?
02:01:36.880 --> 02:01:38.239
That's really who I would be.
02:01:38.319 --> 02:01:40.800
So that's what made me start thinking about the Bible in a different way.
02:01:41.199 --> 02:01:45.359
Like, what if God is just needs me to worship him and just sit there?
02:01:45.439 --> 02:01:49.199
They'd say, Oh, when you go to heaven, we just sit there with the host of angels and just worship.
02:01:49.279 --> 02:01:50.000
I don't want to worship.
02:01:50.159 --> 02:01:51.760
You know that that's not what heaven's gonna be like.
02:01:51.920 --> 02:01:52.880
No, but that's what you're told.
02:01:53.039 --> 02:01:54.800
No, no, no, that's not what the scripture in church.
02:01:54.880 --> 02:01:56.079
When you go to church, that's what they tell us.
02:01:56.640 --> 02:02:01.760
I don't think I I think that maybe I don't know what church, I don't know what you were taught.
02:02:01.840 --> 02:02:02.159
Like, I don't know.
02:02:02.319 --> 02:02:08.239
No, I'm saying like throughout the entirety of like common thoughts in re in Christianity, that's what you kind of think.
02:02:08.399 --> 02:02:13.840
Or it's gonna be like Joe of Witnesses, where you go to heaven and it's just beautiful, you stay on earth and earth becomes beautiful.
02:02:14.079 --> 02:02:17.520
And that's the thing about it, is like that's why we we have to study our show.
02:02:18.800 --> 02:02:19.680
Why can't my life be great now?
02:02:19.840 --> 02:02:20.560
So think about this, right?
02:02:20.640 --> 02:02:23.439
So the Bible actually talks about there being mansions in heaven, right?
02:02:23.600 --> 02:02:23.760
Yeah.
02:02:24.319 --> 02:02:26.159
There's a mansion, there's a mansion I prepare for Jesus said.
02:02:28.079 --> 02:02:30.720
There's so many things in heaven, heaven has cities.
02:02:30.880 --> 02:02:31.199
Yeah.
02:02:31.439 --> 02:02:37.039
Heaven is gonna have like gold, like gold cities of streets of gold, like it's an actual place.
02:02:37.199 --> 02:02:38.079
Think about what we see here.
02:02:38.239 --> 02:02:44.640
Everything we see here is a per is a it's a it's a Walmart version of what Satan saw in heaven.
02:02:44.800 --> 02:02:46.560
So what he did because he wants to be God.
02:02:46.880 --> 02:02:47.840
Satan was in heaven.
02:02:48.000 --> 02:02:49.520
He was Yeah, he was a cherubim.
02:02:49.840 --> 02:02:50.399
He was he was right there.
02:02:50.479 --> 02:02:50.880
He was beautiful.
02:02:51.119 --> 02:02:53.199
He was a embodied music, he was right there.
02:02:53.439 --> 02:02:54.720
He's still beautiful now when he came to earth.
02:02:55.119 --> 02:03:00.560
He wanted to be like God, and that's what got because that's what got him and a third of the angels he convinced, casted out of heaven.
02:03:00.640 --> 02:03:02.399
So now powerful is that story.
02:03:02.640 --> 02:03:03.439
You said powerful?
02:03:03.600 --> 02:03:06.319
Think about how powerful that story is if I want to control somebody.
02:03:06.560 --> 02:03:09.760
The first thing I'm gonna tell you is don't be like Satan.
02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:13.039
This one, he tried to be like me, and then I had to throw him out.
02:03:13.119 --> 02:03:14.800
So stay in your stay in your place.
02:03:14.960 --> 02:03:16.239
Know your role, play your position.
02:03:16.319 --> 02:03:17.199
That's what we're told to do.
02:03:17.279 --> 02:03:17.760
I can't do it.
02:03:17.920 --> 02:03:23.279
Because think about it, this world, it's like people look at this world and with the things of this world to give them peace.
02:03:23.520 --> 02:03:28.319
But us as Christians, our peace is not from what we receive from the world.
02:03:28.560 --> 02:03:29.840
Even though God can still bless us.
02:03:30.159 --> 02:03:30.560
No, but it is.
02:03:30.720 --> 02:03:31.199
But think about this.
02:03:31.680 --> 02:03:32.720
You guys lie when you say that.
02:03:32.880 --> 02:03:33.520
I promise you, bro.
02:03:33.600 --> 02:03:34.159
No, our peace.
02:03:34.399 --> 02:03:34.800
You guys lie.
02:03:34.960 --> 02:03:35.279
Think about this.
02:03:35.439 --> 02:03:36.239
You're disingenuous when you say that.
02:03:36.399 --> 02:03:37.119
Real talk, real talk.
02:03:37.279 --> 02:03:39.680
Three and a half years, my wife dealing with breast cancer.
02:03:39.760 --> 02:03:41.199
How do we keep building the church?
02:03:41.439 --> 02:03:43.119
I mean, you just kept going.
02:03:43.279 --> 02:03:43.920
Keep grinding.
02:03:44.079 --> 02:03:44.960
She kept leading worship.
02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:46.159
I kept leading, she was having children.
02:03:46.319 --> 02:03:47.279
Because people don't just stop.
02:03:47.760 --> 02:03:51.439
People, bro, certain certain people will keep grinding.
02:03:51.760 --> 02:03:55.439
Like you're you're you're fed a path and you're doing what you're supposed to do.
02:03:55.600 --> 02:03:57.840
Challenges are coming and you're overcoming them.
02:03:58.000 --> 02:03:59.760
That is a testament to your spirit.
02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:01.760
But you guys don't look at it that way.
02:04:01.840 --> 02:04:04.880
You look at it as God empowered me, but maybe God is you.
02:04:05.039 --> 02:04:06.640
Because, bro, like what if what if I told you this?
02:04:06.800 --> 02:04:07.279
It's like it's powerful.
02:04:07.359 --> 02:04:09.920
Like I'm thinking it's like when you told me, I was like, oh shit, I didn't know all that.
02:04:10.079 --> 02:04:10.399
Yeah, bro.
02:04:10.479 --> 02:04:11.920
We we felt like giving up so many times.
02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:12.319
Yeah, yeah.
02:04:12.399 --> 02:04:12.720
But you didn't.
02:04:12.960 --> 02:04:17.600
But then I would get into prayer, and the presence of God would come in and like a like a like, bro, like a tangibly, like a weightiness.
02:04:17.760 --> 02:04:18.640
And I'm happy that that happened.
02:04:19.520 --> 02:04:24.399
And then now the the peace would come supernaturally, not because of anything I've received from the world.
02:04:24.720 --> 02:04:28.079
I'm going through, bro, persecution from so many people, like online.
02:04:28.399 --> 02:04:33.840
I talk about people coming at me, lying on my name, like crazy while my wife's dealing with breast cancer.
02:04:34.000 --> 02:04:35.680
People in our church backstabbing us.
02:04:36.239 --> 02:04:37.199
That doesn't mean anything.
02:04:37.359 --> 02:04:42.000
That doesn't what I'm saying is like all that, anybody else, and there's so much more to this, bro.
02:04:42.159 --> 02:04:44.079
Yeah, they would have been like, bro, this is crumble.
02:04:44.159 --> 02:04:44.800
It happens every day.
02:04:44.960 --> 02:04:45.199
Exactly.
02:04:45.279 --> 02:04:46.479
So people crumble for less.
02:04:46.640 --> 02:04:50.800
And honestly, bro, if it was me on my own, I would have given up a long time ago.
02:04:51.199 --> 02:04:51.920
I don't believe that.
02:04:52.000 --> 02:04:52.560
Bro, I believe that.
02:04:52.640 --> 02:04:53.760
Because you why you didn't.
02:04:54.000 --> 02:04:56.640
Because I did I didn't know that this would well you see now?
02:04:56.800 --> 02:04:58.159
I did not know this would happen.
02:04:58.239 --> 02:04:58.560
No.
02:04:58.800 --> 02:05:01.119
Bro, I you couldn't like I believe that.
02:05:01.359 --> 02:05:03.039
We had a small little church in our house.
02:05:03.199 --> 02:05:03.840
Yeah.
02:05:04.079 --> 02:05:05.760
Everybody coming at us, bro.
02:05:05.920 --> 02:05:06.960
Everyone coming at us.
02:05:07.359 --> 02:05:07.760
Are we good?
02:05:08.720 --> 02:05:12.000
Everyone coming at us just like, don't do this, it's not gonna work.
02:05:12.159 --> 02:05:12.319
Right.
02:05:12.640 --> 02:05:13.359
Persecution.
02:05:13.520 --> 02:05:15.920
Like, bro, like we But I don't see where God comes into any of that.
02:05:16.399 --> 02:05:17.119
Almost got evicted.
02:05:17.520 --> 02:05:18.960
Eviction letter on the door.
02:05:19.119 --> 02:05:19.600
Oh, yeah.
02:05:19.840 --> 02:05:22.079
And then by the way, there was witches next door.
02:05:22.239 --> 02:05:22.399
Okay.
02:05:22.560 --> 02:05:24.560
They were doing as we have services, they're doing rituals.
02:05:24.720 --> 02:05:25.199
Oh, wow.
02:05:25.359 --> 02:05:28.640
And they could and and we were inviting them to the house, and they they didn't want to come.
02:05:28.880 --> 02:05:29.039
Right.
02:05:29.359 --> 02:05:30.720
Some witches are fake too, you know.
02:05:30.800 --> 02:05:32.239
Just like some Christians are fake.
02:05:32.479 --> 02:05:33.600
There's some fake everything.
02:05:33.760 --> 02:05:33.840
Yeah.
02:05:34.159 --> 02:05:35.680
Fake Muslims, fake whatever you got.
02:05:35.760 --> 02:05:36.960
There's some posers.
02:05:37.119 --> 02:05:37.840
Yeah, I believe that.
02:05:38.000 --> 02:05:39.279
You know, TikTok world is different.
02:05:39.359 --> 02:05:39.520
Yeah.
02:05:40.479 --> 02:05:41.199
Witch talk or whatever.
02:05:41.439 --> 02:05:43.520
There's a whole bunch of people trend, like it's like a trend now, right?
02:05:43.920 --> 02:05:44.800
Yeah, it's crazy.
02:05:45.039 --> 02:05:47.520
But they they they all that stuff happens.
02:05:47.600 --> 02:05:48.720
They put an eviction thing.
02:05:48.800 --> 02:05:50.159
We're thinking we're gonna get evicted.
02:05:50.239 --> 02:05:51.920
The guy ends up being a Christian, comes to our house.
02:05:52.000 --> 02:05:54.800
He's like, look, they already filed it in the court, like downtown Orlando.
02:05:54.960 --> 02:05:59.279
Get out before if you can get out in the next week or two, I'll I'll make sure you don't get an E on your record eviction.
02:05:59.600 --> 02:06:03.279
We get out, like there's a there's a lot of a lot of craziness, bro.
02:06:03.600 --> 02:06:04.479
Yeah, in this room.
02:06:05.760 --> 02:06:11.840
So I'll just say this the like the grace of God, I believe, and when I mean it grace is power.
02:06:12.000 --> 02:06:13.920
I believe power super like you believe in power.
02:06:14.079 --> 02:06:14.479
Yeah, of course.
02:06:14.640 --> 02:06:15.439
We both believe in power.
02:06:15.600 --> 02:06:15.920
No doubt.
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I just believe in a different power.
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You believe in a different power.
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Right.
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I believe that power is what empowered me to keep on going.
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Right.
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I believe, and again, you're gonna come to Christ.
02:06:26.960 --> 02:06:31.199
You know, I'm gonna come to him, and then I'm gonna say, bro, we got things to talk about.
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You're gonna worship him.
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No, I will not I will worship nothing.
02:06:34.079 --> 02:06:34.399
You will.
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I worship only woman.
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That's not good.
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That's it.
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Because they create life.
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We create I mean, they can't create life without a man.
02:06:44.079 --> 02:06:46.000
Yeah, but the man can't create life without a woman.
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Facts.
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You know what I mean?
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Either way you look at it, it comes from the woman.
02:06:49.039 --> 02:06:50.319
The woman, everything comes out of her.
02:06:50.640 --> 02:06:52.479
But it has to come from the man, the seed.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's a it's this is the whole Bible, you know that, right?
02:06:57.520 --> 02:06:58.479
Like it's man.
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They took they take the cross, they put another penis.
02:07:02.880 --> 02:07:03.920
It used to be a womb.
02:07:04.079 --> 02:07:09.359
That's that's what the that's what the unk and and that that's that's a whole different that's But that's this is what the Bible came down to is.
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Who wrote this Bible?
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King James, homosexual.
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You know another book he wrote?
02:07:13.840 --> 02:07:14.800
He didn't write the Bible, bro.
02:07:14.880 --> 02:07:15.840
No, who translated it?
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Whose name is on it?
02:07:16.800 --> 02:07:17.520
King James.
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For that, for that translation.
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Right.
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This is the most important.
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There's an AMP Bible, there's an NIV.
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What's the most?
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NIV, the New International Verse.
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It's So what do I believe?
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You know, when there's translations, they leave a lot out.
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Yeah, I believe in the hermeneutics.
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I believe in reading the Greek.
02:07:31.520 --> 02:07:32.319
I like the AMP a lot.
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But you use which one?
02:07:33.359 --> 02:07:43.199
I like the Because I'll get the Bible you use so that I can when I when I destroy you in the debate, when I take you out, um, I want to use the Bible that you use.
02:07:43.439 --> 02:07:43.920
Okay, bet.
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Just what version is it?
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Let's use NKJV.
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New King James Version.
02:07:49.279 --> 02:07:49.920
This one.
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Yep, let's use that one.
02:07:51.680 --> 02:07:52.319
Yeah, it's good.
02:07:52.479 --> 02:07:53.520
You know why we use this one?
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He also wrote a book on demons.
02:07:56.479 --> 02:07:57.840
Yeah, the King James he wrote.
02:07:58.159 --> 02:08:01.199
So it's like we we we we get these things, yeah.
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We get taught these things, we forget the history of these things, and we think like the source of it doesn't matter.
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By the way, he didn't write a book on demons.
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I've studied this.
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Yeah, just the book.
02:08:10.159 --> 02:08:10.800
It's all a fallacy.
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I have it.
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But it's not written by King James.
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It's not written by him.
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Oh, I can I can probably.
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But he didn't write the Bible either.
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That I can he commissioned it.
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Yes.
02:08:17.600 --> 02:08:19.920
If you beat me on that, I'll I'll secede that because I don't care.
02:08:20.079 --> 02:08:20.239
Yeah.
02:08:20.399 --> 02:08:21.039
He did he didn't write.
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I saw like I actually went deep on that, and it's not true.
02:08:23.359 --> 02:08:27.439
But yeah, that he didn't write the Bible, it was a collective of people, and it was a whole obviously, yeah.
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The book is it's many books.
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Yeah, we have even the great schism in the 1600s that separate that took certain canon out, the Protestant Reformation.
02:08:34.479 --> 02:08:35.119
We got all that.
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The book of Thomas, all that stuff.
02:08:36.640 --> 02:08:37.439
Yeah, Book of Enoch.
02:08:37.600 --> 02:08:38.159
You guys don't want that.
02:08:38.239 --> 02:08:44.720
Yeah, for that's all look, I've read I I've read I've read a lot of these things, bro, and I just tell you the one thing that I know for sure is the gospel of Jesus Christ.
02:08:44.800 --> 02:08:45.119
Yeah, Christ.
02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:48.159
I it'd be so easy if I could just be like I'd be the best Christian.
02:08:48.319 --> 02:08:49.680
Yeah, because think about chemistry.
02:08:49.840 --> 02:08:51.760
There's so many different books on chemistry, right?
02:08:51.920 --> 02:08:54.159
But why would I even study a book and even believe it?
02:08:54.319 --> 02:08:58.640
If unless what I read I can actually do and it actually happens.
02:08:58.800 --> 02:09:01.920
Well, chemistry science is provable and it's repeatable.
02:09:02.159 --> 02:09:02.560
Exactly.
02:09:02.800 --> 02:09:06.880
I can't repeat God coming down to me and talking for you.
02:09:07.119 --> 02:09:10.079
But what I can't make that happen, but I can make a spirit come down to me.
02:09:10.319 --> 02:09:12.239
But what if a bunch of people have encountered God?
02:09:12.399 --> 02:09:16.079
Well, there's lunatics, there's there's group psychosis.
02:09:16.239 --> 02:09:18.560
You know, like when you're in the church, the pattern of a church?
02:09:18.800 --> 02:09:20.000
What if they say the same thing about you?
02:09:20.159 --> 02:09:21.359
But they can't.
02:09:22.239 --> 02:09:24.079
Because it's always a different experience.
02:09:24.319 --> 02:09:29.680
So what if I so like if I if I get a group of 10 Christians who all had experiences with God, that they all tell you They'll be exactly the same.
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It wouldn't.
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They'll be different.
02:09:32.239 --> 02:09:33.279
I'm coming, I'm coming Sunday.
02:09:33.600 --> 02:09:34.159
Bro, you come this Sunday?
02:09:34.319 --> 02:09:34.640
They're Sunday?
02:09:34.720 --> 02:09:34.960
Yes, bro.
02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:37.760
Coming this Sunday that's the next, that's the next step.
02:09:38.000 --> 02:09:38.560
Yes, bro.
02:09:38.640 --> 02:09:40.000
Come like enjoy the service.
02:09:40.159 --> 02:09:41.119
Yeah, come with your girl.
02:09:41.199 --> 02:09:43.680
Like we have you have a good children's ministry too, for real.
02:09:43.840 --> 02:09:45.680
And bro, you just no judgment.
02:09:46.000 --> 02:09:47.359
Because I know I know what I'm gonna find.
02:09:47.439 --> 02:09:47.840
That's the thing.
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It's like I know I'm like I keep some things behind because I'm like, I don't want to scare you away yet.
02:09:53.600 --> 02:09:55.119
Yeah, but it's like I know things.
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Yeah, you know what I mean?
02:09:56.239 --> 02:09:57.119
They talk to me too.
02:09:57.279 --> 02:09:59.439
Like you say, you get one spirit that talks to you.
02:09:59.520 --> 02:10:02.079
Yes, I have a myriad of spirits that speak to me.
02:10:02.239 --> 02:10:04.319
And but the I believe the spirit at the drop of a dime.
02:10:05.279 --> 02:10:06.880
You cannot call God anytime you want.
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I can't.
02:10:07.840 --> 02:10:14.640
You can sit in his whatever you call it, in his in his spirit, in his energy, and go, but we all can do that.
02:10:14.880 --> 02:10:18.560
Could you do yoga and I could do Kundalini yoga and feel the fire breath build up in my body.
02:10:18.720 --> 02:10:21.199
I know you know you said Kev Kevin, like a whole list of all the things you do.
02:10:21.359 --> 02:10:24.479
Could you do witchcraft on me to cause something to happen?
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Of course.
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Do it.
02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:26.479
Why?
02:10:26.720 --> 02:10:27.840
I want to see if it happens.
02:10:28.000 --> 02:10:29.039
What would I do?
02:10:29.279 --> 02:10:30.319
Anything you want.
02:10:30.560 --> 02:10:31.359
Good stuff.
02:10:32.399 --> 02:10:33.680
I don't want to do bad stuff to you.
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But what about it?
02:10:35.600 --> 02:10:38.159
Okay, so all honesty, like not joking around.
02:10:38.720 --> 02:10:42.960
I'm not one of those people who sits there and says, Oh, I'll get you, I'll put you in a jar, I'll put you in a jar.
02:10:43.039 --> 02:10:43.760
No, no, no.
02:10:44.079 --> 02:10:45.520
You have to be aligned for that.
02:10:45.680 --> 02:10:50.399
The universe has to, it has to be for the universal good if I were to do something negative to somebody.
02:10:50.479 --> 02:10:51.920
Like you would have to do something bad.
02:10:52.079 --> 02:10:54.319
I mean, I mean I would judge No no, like now.
02:10:54.560 --> 02:10:55.840
Not like I was a bad person back then.
02:10:56.079 --> 02:10:57.359
But I went to witchcraft stores.
02:10:57.520 --> 02:10:58.720
What do you mean you went to witchcraft stores?
02:10:59.439 --> 02:11:01.760
And I spoke bad about your what you believe.
02:11:01.920 --> 02:11:05.840
Yeah, but that doesn't justify you getting like hurt or suffering.
02:11:06.079 --> 02:11:08.640
There's so many witches and warlocks that do witchcraft on me.
02:11:08.800 --> 02:11:10.000
Yeah, but I don't know what they're doing.
02:11:10.159 --> 02:11:10.640
I touch people.
02:11:10.880 --> 02:11:11.840
There were so many.
02:11:12.000 --> 02:11:12.960
Yeah, but I touch people.
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I want you to.
02:11:14.399 --> 02:11:14.960
No, you don't.
02:11:15.199 --> 02:11:17.680
That's just I want you to bring me to Jesus.
02:11:18.000 --> 02:11:18.640
You said it.
02:11:18.800 --> 02:11:19.760
You see what I'm saying?
02:11:20.000 --> 02:11:21.199
That sounds crazy.
02:11:21.439 --> 02:11:23.199
Like you just prophesied.
02:11:24.079 --> 02:11:25.199
You prophesied.
02:11:25.439 --> 02:11:27.920
No, I'm saying, I'm trying, I'm combating what you're saying.
02:11:28.000 --> 02:11:29.439
I'm saying it doesn't make sense.
02:11:29.600 --> 02:11:31.520
Like people come to me and they say, I need this.
02:11:31.600 --> 02:11:34.640
Like, for example, I had a woman, man's cheating on her.
02:11:35.760 --> 02:11:36.960
30 years they've been married.
02:11:37.279 --> 02:11:38.800
Got a younger side chick.
02:11:39.199 --> 02:11:40.319
Oh, I want to kill the girl.
02:11:40.800 --> 02:11:41.840
I say, okay, let's do a reading.
02:11:41.920 --> 02:11:43.039
Let's see what the spirit says.
02:11:44.079 --> 02:11:45.039
I did a reading.
02:11:45.199 --> 02:11:46.960
Another person who works with me did a reading.
02:11:47.039 --> 02:11:48.960
And she called someone from her country to do a reading.
02:11:49.039 --> 02:11:50.159
We all had the same knowledge.
02:11:50.319 --> 02:11:52.479
It's gonna take this long, but he's gonna leave her one day.
02:11:52.960 --> 02:11:54.000
No, no, no, I can't wait.
02:11:54.239 --> 02:11:55.439
This woman's calling me every week.
02:11:55.680 --> 02:11:56.800
Just throwing money at me.
02:11:57.039 --> 02:11:58.960
I need this, I need this, I need a reading, I need a reading.
02:11:59.199 --> 02:11:59.680
Then he comes.
02:12:00.239 --> 02:12:01.279
Home with the divorce papers.
02:12:01.840 --> 02:12:03.199
I said, Okay, let me go take care of it.
02:12:03.439 --> 02:12:04.960
Boom, boom, boom, take care of it.
02:12:05.600 --> 02:12:07.439
Then she says, I want to curse the girl.
02:12:07.520 --> 02:12:08.560
I want to do this, I want to do that.
02:12:08.640 --> 02:12:09.439
I said, No, no, no.
02:12:09.520 --> 02:12:10.640
Let's look at what the spirit says.
02:12:10.720 --> 02:12:11.520
Well, you know what?
02:12:11.760 --> 02:12:20.720
She's operating in her own little realm, and I get that you're mad and you want all these bad things to happen, but it's not justified and it's not aligning with the universal good.
02:12:21.039 --> 02:12:22.479
So then you so then your God is the universal.
02:12:22.640 --> 02:12:23.359
So you know what I did?
02:12:23.920 --> 02:12:27.039
I said, instead of cursing her, we don't need to kill her.
02:12:27.359 --> 02:12:28.079
You know what I mean?
02:12:28.399 --> 02:12:33.119
How about I work so that she finds a better partner for her?
02:12:33.359 --> 02:12:34.720
The girl, the side girl.
02:12:35.119 --> 02:12:41.279
I'll let her find the man that's right for her, because he's not right for her, because he's 60 and she's 25.
02:12:41.600 --> 02:12:43.840
She needs to find that, and that solves the problem.
02:12:43.920 --> 02:12:45.039
You see, you gotta think differently.
02:12:45.199 --> 02:12:47.920
It's not all curse, bless, heal.
02:12:48.079 --> 02:12:49.119
That's the Bible tells you that.
02:12:49.199 --> 02:12:50.800
So evil and good, black and white.
02:12:50.960 --> 02:12:52.640
So then you're submitted because you can't do it on your own.
02:12:52.720 --> 02:12:54.239
So you're submitted to the universe.
02:12:54.720 --> 02:12:55.520
Well, of course.
02:12:55.680 --> 02:12:56.479
I am the universe.
02:12:56.640 --> 02:13:00.159
You have to submit to science and nature and the law that is beyond us.
02:13:00.479 --> 02:13:01.439
So then you worship the universe.
02:13:01.600 --> 02:13:02.239
I don't worship it.
02:13:02.399 --> 02:13:03.600
Because you can't do whatever you want.
02:13:03.920 --> 02:13:04.479
What do you mean?
02:13:04.640 --> 02:13:06.960
I could, but I don't think that's good for me to do.
02:13:07.279 --> 02:13:09.359
I have I have I have control over myself.
02:13:09.439 --> 02:13:10.880
I have I have spiritual autonomy.
02:13:11.119 --> 02:13:11.279
Yeah.
02:13:11.359 --> 02:13:14.720
So like so when someone says if someone says, punch me in the face, I don't have to punch them in the face.
02:13:14.800 --> 02:13:15.119
Yeah, of course.
02:13:15.199 --> 02:13:16.399
But like, but like I have discretion.
02:13:16.640 --> 02:13:19.119
But like you said, you submit to the spirits that speak to you.
02:13:19.520 --> 02:13:22.479
It would benefit me not to do something bad to you.
02:13:22.560 --> 02:13:23.600
There's no benefit to me.
02:13:23.920 --> 02:13:26.880
I want you to continue doing what you're doing because you're helping me.
02:13:28.000 --> 02:13:31.520
You're sharpening my skill and you're doing good things for people.
02:13:31.600 --> 02:13:33.039
I say this, you can ask her.
02:13:33.199 --> 02:13:37.760
I'd be like, yeah, I don't agree with what he does, but I agree with how he's helping these youth.
02:13:37.920 --> 02:13:39.920
He's doing good things for the people, and I see that.
02:13:40.079 --> 02:13:40.880
I see the people.
02:13:41.039 --> 02:13:43.520
And I'm like, okay, some of these kids, this is good for them.
02:13:43.920 --> 02:13:44.880
But there's a better way.
02:13:45.119 --> 02:13:50.640
But hey, he's you it's it's like debating is rice better than pasta?
02:13:50.720 --> 02:13:50.880
Yeah.
02:13:51.039 --> 02:13:53.439
You know, it's not, you're not gonna, it doesn't really matter.
02:13:53.680 --> 02:13:54.960
Have you heard about the story of Elijah?
02:13:55.199 --> 02:13:56.159
No, I don't know who that is.
02:13:56.319 --> 02:14:04.000
Elijah was a prophet in the Bible, and he um he he actually was like Jezebel actually and Ahab, that was her husband, were trying to kill him.
02:14:04.239 --> 02:14:07.359
Why did you just say No, I get chills all the time when they talk to me.
02:14:08.640 --> 02:14:12.800
And then, and then and then they were trying to they were trying to kill him, bro.
02:14:12.960 --> 02:14:22.560
And then when he he went and he pulled up on all the false prophets of of Baal, and he said, Look, if your God is truly God, call upon fire on this altar and let's see if he does it.
02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:23.279
Yeah, that's it.
02:14:23.359 --> 02:14:28.960
Because Baal's the weather god and they're doing rituals, they're cutting themselves, they're doing all these things, nothing happens.
02:14:29.039 --> 02:14:37.520
He calls upon fire, fire comes down on both altars, chops all their heads off, and proves that God of the Bible, Yahweh, has more power.
02:14:37.680 --> 02:14:45.439
And that's that's why I say, like, because I love you and I love everybody watching this, because I know there's a bunch of witches and like that are gonna watch and I and I want that.
02:14:45.680 --> 02:14:46.000
Why?
02:14:46.159 --> 02:14:49.920
I say this that's that's you're that's you can do that, but you can't accept the I am.
02:14:50.000 --> 02:14:50.640
So I say this.
02:14:50.800 --> 02:14:53.520
Maybe you won't, but I say this to any witch or worlock.
02:14:53.920 --> 02:14:58.079
I want you to do witchcraft on me because I know it won't touch me.
02:14:58.319 --> 02:15:02.399
And I want any Christian who can bring me to Jesus to do it because I know I won't.
02:15:02.560 --> 02:15:02.880
I will.
02:15:03.119 --> 02:15:03.840
He's gonna try.
02:15:04.000 --> 02:15:04.319
I will.
02:15:04.560 --> 02:15:05.199
It ain't gonna happen.
02:15:05.439 --> 02:15:06.720
He'll be on our sites.
02:15:07.760 --> 02:15:10.079
I'll be in there with my elecca's in the church.
02:15:10.319 --> 02:15:11.840
Man, you're gonna you're gonna No, no, it's not like that.
02:15:12.560 --> 02:15:12.960
Come with your brother.
02:15:13.119 --> 02:15:20.640
You know, there was a man who made a documentary uh just recently, and he went all over America and he went to different types of uh disciplines and said, curse me.
02:15:20.720 --> 02:15:23.039
He went to New Orleans, he went with some all these people.
02:15:23.359 --> 02:15:24.079
English dude?
02:15:24.319 --> 02:15:24.800
I think so.
02:15:24.880 --> 02:15:26.239
It was like a white guy, older white guy.
02:15:26.399 --> 02:15:31.520
It's on Amazon, and it's ridiculous because you get these people that are He wasn't Christian, so he had open doors.
02:15:31.680 --> 02:15:39.439
I don't know what he was, but he was like, I want you to curse me, and they all do the same thing that people would expect me to do and be like, oh child, you don't want that work.
02:15:39.520 --> 02:15:40.000
No, no, no.
02:15:40.079 --> 02:15:44.239
It'll touch you, and the thing, the problem with it is you don't see it coming till it touches you.
02:15:44.319 --> 02:15:47.039
Yeah, it's not like I'm throwing a punch, you can watch it and block it.
02:15:47.199 --> 02:15:49.199
You're just walking down the street and it hit me.
02:15:49.359 --> 02:15:50.319
But it's slow.
02:15:50.479 --> 02:15:50.640
Right.
02:15:50.880 --> 02:15:55.840
You see, the way the spirit's gonna work, dark ways, is different than the way you think.
02:15:56.079 --> 02:15:57.600
You see, a lot of people send misinformation.
02:15:58.560 --> 02:15:59.520
I go through spiritual warfare.
02:15:59.680 --> 02:16:00.000
Exactly.
02:16:00.159 --> 02:16:00.640
I see them.
02:16:00.800 --> 02:16:01.119
Yeah.
02:16:01.279 --> 02:16:04.159
I see their attacks, but it'll come to you in such a way that you never know.
02:16:04.479 --> 02:16:12.960
Bro, if I told you stories of spiritual warfare, not of like not encounters with God, but spiritual warfare where I see demonic spirits working in so many different ways.
02:16:13.119 --> 02:16:14.880
Oh bro, it's every day.
02:16:15.119 --> 02:16:18.640
But it's so easy to But I've learned that like bro, I know how to fight spiritual warfare.
02:16:18.720 --> 02:16:21.760
You know what she's easier to do is to fall down than to fall up the stairs.
02:16:22.000 --> 02:16:23.760
So you never want to ask for that.
02:16:24.159 --> 02:16:30.479
It's a challenge because you know there's so many fake people out there who are gonna be like, they're gonna get a jar and give me some stuff and mix it.
02:16:30.640 --> 02:16:31.199
They already do it.
02:16:31.279 --> 02:16:31.760
That's not how it works.
02:16:32.000 --> 02:16:34.799
You know how many witches like DM me and say crazy things?
02:16:35.360 --> 02:16:37.040
Goat, a four-legged, and it's done.
02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:37.920
You should know that.
02:16:38.959 --> 02:16:39.920
You know what they do in Haiti.
02:16:40.000 --> 02:16:40.879
We'll put you in a cemetery.
02:16:41.040 --> 02:16:41.680
Yeah, they do it all the time.
02:16:41.760 --> 02:16:42.159
It's not hard to do.
02:16:42.319 --> 02:16:43.040
They've been done it.
02:16:43.280 --> 02:16:43.680
Maybe.
02:16:43.840 --> 02:16:48.879
Oh, they bro, I've I've had like I've had warlocks come try to literally in the physical burn down our church.
02:16:49.040 --> 02:16:49.280
Why?
02:16:49.360 --> 02:16:51.040
Because it was they're mad, yeah.
02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:52.000
Right, but you like that.
02:16:52.079 --> 02:16:53.920
But they can't do nothing, they're like, you're fire.
02:16:54.239 --> 02:16:56.799
And gotta show me in dreams before they even come.
02:16:57.040 --> 02:17:02.000
It's just what I do appreciate is that you welcome it the same way you you offer it.
02:17:02.239 --> 02:17:03.200
That was my big challenge.
02:17:03.280 --> 02:17:08.239
I was like, because I feel like some of these people that do that would be like they want to go and do it, but they don't want anyone to come and question that.
02:17:09.200 --> 02:17:10.799
I actually want to sit down with more people, yeah.
02:17:10.959 --> 02:17:11.280
Real talk.
02:17:11.360 --> 02:17:20.319
Like, yeah, you're the you're you're I have tons of people that are like even like my godparent above me that are like really in this, like older than us forever.
02:17:20.479 --> 02:17:21.360
Do you think they'll do a podcast?
02:17:21.600 --> 02:17:22.639
I yeah, I'll ask them.
02:17:22.959 --> 02:17:25.280
I want I got and this is turned into a thing.
02:17:25.440 --> 02:17:28.719
My heart on it, truly, is not for virality, even though I want it to go viral.
02:17:28.799 --> 02:17:29.840
Oh, yeah, I want it to go viral.
02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:33.520
But it's it's it's mainly because I because I I want people to know Jesus, bro.
02:17:33.680 --> 02:17:33.920
Yeah.
02:17:34.159 --> 02:17:38.079
I want people to I want people to know I am self.
02:17:38.319 --> 02:17:38.719
Self.
02:17:38.879 --> 02:17:39.040
Yeah.
02:17:40.159 --> 02:17:40.799
The tree of the knowledge of God.
02:17:40.959 --> 02:17:48.479
You know, when you're born, you know, like if you're born in the jungle, you don't know or look for or ask for in a god or anything.
02:17:48.559 --> 02:17:53.520
But you always, indigenous people always have a spiritual system because nature is spiritual.
02:17:53.680 --> 02:17:56.879
Now I know the Bible will say, well, the rocks profess God and the tree.
02:17:57.040 --> 02:17:57.680
Not really.
02:17:58.159 --> 02:18:00.159
That's just a perspective that someone put in your head.
02:18:00.879 --> 02:18:06.479
They profess a God like energy, maybe, but not this.
02:18:07.360 --> 02:18:09.520
If this Bible disappeared, what would you do?
02:18:09.760 --> 02:18:10.319
The Holy Spirit.
02:18:10.559 --> 02:18:11.840
No, like let's say there was no Bible everywhere.
02:18:12.879 --> 02:18:13.280
But there was God.
02:18:13.440 --> 02:18:15.120
The apostles who wrote it, they didn't have a Bible.
02:18:15.360 --> 02:18:19.040
Well, they didn't even, they weren't even there when there's no eyewitness accounts of Jesus written.
02:18:19.280 --> 02:18:19.920
You know that, right?
02:18:20.079 --> 02:18:21.680
These people that wrote this were years later.
02:18:22.239 --> 02:18:24.399
There was 500 people who saw him rise from the dead.
02:18:24.559 --> 02:18:25.680
But they didn't write it.
02:18:25.920 --> 02:18:30.000
But bro, we have but we have to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
02:18:30.239 --> 02:18:33.360
And how many years after were they alive from Jesus?
02:18:33.680 --> 02:18:34.639
Within their lifetime.
02:18:34.799 --> 02:18:36.479
No, it didn't happen within their lifetimes.
02:18:36.559 --> 02:18:39.600
They wrote it in their lifetime, but Jesus happened way before their lifetime.
02:18:39.840 --> 02:18:40.799
Yeah, like 20, 30 years.
02:18:40.879 --> 02:18:41.360
I mean, think about it.
02:18:41.440 --> 02:18:43.840
Like So So if I you ever play Grapevine?
02:18:44.079 --> 02:18:45.920
I tell someone, I whisper in the ear.
02:18:46.239 --> 02:18:48.879
Yeah, like you talk about like yeah, yeah, that that's what do you think this is?
02:18:48.959 --> 02:18:53.760
And that's that's why Matthew, Mark, that's why the contradictions are so it all confirms.
02:18:54.000 --> 02:18:55.680
Oh wow, we're gonna go home.
02:18:55.840 --> 02:18:56.399
Yes, bro.
02:18:56.479 --> 02:18:57.120
You don't even know.
02:18:58.159 --> 02:19:00.639
Listen, that'll be your curse.
02:19:02.719 --> 02:19:07.920
When you have to look at the actual Bible and just be like, okay, I can't say nothing.
02:19:08.079 --> 02:19:09.440
That will happen.
02:19:09.760 --> 02:19:11.200
I will make that happen.
02:19:11.520 --> 02:19:12.079
It'll be good.
02:19:12.159 --> 02:19:12.639
We can study.
02:19:12.719 --> 02:19:12.959
Yeah.
02:19:13.120 --> 02:19:14.879
Like you can send the questions, or I'll send the questions.
02:19:15.280 --> 02:19:16.159
Make up questions for both of us.
02:19:16.479 --> 02:19:18.399
Like whatever you want to ask me on my side, and then we'll do that.
02:19:18.959 --> 02:19:20.000
We could even prepare before the interview.
02:19:20.159 --> 02:19:23.120
So that way we can come, we can come with like legit, like, okay, let's talk.
02:19:23.280 --> 02:19:24.159
Oh no, it's gonna be for real.
02:19:24.239 --> 02:19:24.719
Yeah, we're right.
02:19:24.879 --> 02:19:25.680
It's gonna be fiery.
02:19:25.840 --> 02:19:27.200
Then you're gonna see a different me.
02:19:27.360 --> 02:19:28.959
And then I'm gonna come really witchy.
02:19:29.200 --> 02:19:29.600
How about that?
02:19:29.760 --> 02:19:30.959
Like, I'm really bringing the spirits with me.
02:19:31.120 --> 02:19:33.440
And next time my spirits are walking in the room before me.
02:19:33.680 --> 02:19:35.440
And next time we go, like next time we're gonna do it.
02:19:35.680 --> 02:19:36.399
Anoint the chairs.
02:19:36.639 --> 02:19:37.680
We're gonna go to your place.
02:19:37.840 --> 02:19:38.319
Yeah.
02:19:38.559 --> 02:19:39.120
Yeah.
02:19:40.000 --> 02:19:41.920
We'll go to your place, your chairs, everything.
02:19:42.079 --> 02:19:42.319
Okay.
02:19:42.399 --> 02:19:44.479
And even in front of like even bring your idols out.
02:19:44.639 --> 02:19:44.879
Yeah.
02:19:45.600 --> 02:19:46.559
Bro, like all that.
02:19:46.639 --> 02:19:47.440
And I would love to do that.
02:19:47.520 --> 02:19:48.879
Like, I would've never been done.
02:19:49.040 --> 02:19:50.079
No one's ever done it like this.
02:19:50.159 --> 02:19:52.159
It's always just we're gonna debate if Jesus is real.
02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:53.200
I don't care if he's real.
02:19:53.360 --> 02:19:57.200
I care if he's good, if he's so good.
02:19:57.440 --> 02:19:57.840
Worth it.
02:19:58.000 --> 02:19:59.760
If he's what we should follow.
02:20:00.079 --> 02:20:01.360
Because you want because you want the truth.
02:20:01.760 --> 02:20:05.360
We don't actually can't prove any of what we're talking about.
02:20:05.680 --> 02:20:06.239
The experience.
02:20:06.479 --> 02:20:08.159
I can't prove what I'm saying, you can't prove what you're saying.
02:20:08.239 --> 02:20:13.360
We can just say experience-wise, anecdotally, but in reality, you're gonna follow something.
02:20:13.520 --> 02:20:13.840
Yeah.
02:20:14.000 --> 02:20:19.280
But I just say I'm coming for Christians all over the world because they want to come for us.
02:20:19.440 --> 02:20:21.520
So it's only fair that you get some smoke back.
02:20:21.680 --> 02:20:23.280
And I got a lot of smoke for y'all.
02:20:23.440 --> 02:20:25.280
So it's like, you gotta get it.
02:20:25.360 --> 02:20:26.000
You know what I mean?
02:20:26.079 --> 02:20:27.120
No one else does it like you guys.
02:20:27.200 --> 02:20:27.360
Yeah.
02:20:27.440 --> 02:20:34.639
And you're like at the top of the food chain right now, as far as I see of whatever your people do, but even in general, because like I say your name to people and they know who you are.
02:20:34.799 --> 02:20:37.600
I'll be like, yeah, you know, I'm gonna be doing this podcast with Richard.
02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:38.959
They're like, oh wow, that's crazy.
02:20:39.040 --> 02:20:39.120
Wow.
02:20:39.280 --> 02:20:39.760
Yeah, I see him.
02:20:39.840 --> 02:20:40.799
He's popping up on my feet.
02:20:40.879 --> 02:20:41.680
Yeah, I know who he is.
02:20:41.760 --> 02:20:43.520
So you're doing what you're supposed to be doing.
02:20:43.680 --> 02:20:43.920
Yeah.
02:20:44.079 --> 02:20:45.680
But there has to be an adversary.
02:20:46.000 --> 02:20:46.879
And it's not you.
02:20:47.040 --> 02:20:47.840
You're not my enemy.
02:20:48.079 --> 02:20:48.639
No, no, no.
02:20:48.719 --> 02:20:49.520
We're not enemies.
02:20:49.600 --> 02:20:50.799
I'm just giving you the perspective.
02:20:50.879 --> 02:20:52.639
I'm trying to empower you and you're trying to fight it.
02:20:52.799 --> 02:20:54.959
There is an adversary who wants to kill, steal, and destroy.
02:20:55.120 --> 02:20:55.520
Of course.
02:20:55.680 --> 02:20:57.760
There's bad, there's alligators out there, I told you.
02:20:57.840 --> 02:20:58.000
Yeah.
02:20:58.159 --> 02:20:58.799
We just don't play with them.
02:20:59.040 --> 02:20:59.760
Leviatans.
02:20:59.920 --> 02:21:02.159
But I can, I can, I got them on leashes sometimes.
02:21:02.399 --> 02:21:02.959
Trust me, bro.
02:21:03.760 --> 02:21:06.319
They'll make you think that you have like they make you think that.
02:21:06.639 --> 02:21:12.639
Listen, if you actually seen spirits come after you, you'd fall to them.
02:21:12.879 --> 02:21:13.280
I don't.
02:21:13.600 --> 02:21:15.120
It would not be like, Jesus, stop.
02:21:15.360 --> 02:21:15.920
You couldn't do it.
02:21:16.399 --> 02:21:17.040
I'll tell you this: the truth.
02:21:17.360 --> 02:21:18.799
The name of Jesus only works on Christians.
02:21:18.959 --> 02:21:20.479
They're extremely strong.
02:21:21.360 --> 02:21:23.920
The lowest ranking demon can destroy me.
02:21:24.079 --> 02:21:24.479
Oh, yeah.
02:21:24.559 --> 02:21:25.200
That's what I'm saying.
02:21:25.440 --> 02:21:30.319
But with the name of Jesus, and I've seen I've had this encounter many times, they flee.
02:21:30.479 --> 02:21:31.360
They tremble.
02:21:31.600 --> 02:21:32.319
They run.
02:21:32.879 --> 02:21:33.840
They're scared.
02:21:34.079 --> 02:21:38.239
Even right now, I believe every spirit operating, bro, they're trembling.
02:21:38.959 --> 02:21:40.079
My spirits aren't trembling right now.
02:21:40.159 --> 02:21:41.600
They're all standing, they're standing behind you.
02:21:41.680 --> 02:21:42.559
You got spirits.
02:21:42.639 --> 02:21:44.479
You have a spiritual court, whether you believe it or not.
02:21:44.559 --> 02:21:45.120
And they're with you.
02:21:45.600 --> 02:21:46.639
They're gonna be like they're angels.
02:21:47.280 --> 02:21:49.760
Because you want to be a Christian, so you're gonna call them angels.
02:21:50.079 --> 02:21:51.280
Minor demons.
02:21:51.520 --> 02:21:52.479
But they're not demons.
02:21:52.559 --> 02:21:55.920
They're grandma, great-granddad, they're they're they're me.
02:21:56.239 --> 02:21:56.879
They were believers, right?
02:21:57.440 --> 02:21:57.920
They were believers.
02:21:58.079 --> 02:21:58.799
I don't know what they were.
02:21:59.200 --> 02:22:01.040
Your believers are in the cloud of witnesses right now?
02:22:01.280 --> 02:22:02.639
They're they're knowers.
02:22:04.479 --> 02:22:06.879
How do you know that they're actually your ancestors?
02:22:07.200 --> 02:22:08.399
Because there's signs.
02:22:08.559 --> 02:22:09.840
And they only do good for me.
02:22:10.000 --> 02:22:10.719
They don't do bad.
02:22:10.879 --> 02:22:12.159
They look out for my best interest.
02:22:12.719 --> 02:22:15.360
Sometimes my best interest, just as you as we're fathers, right?
02:22:15.440 --> 02:22:17.840
We know the best interest of a child isn't always to give them the candy.
02:22:18.159 --> 02:22:21.600
Sometimes you gotta say no more candy, our ancestors will do that.
02:22:21.680 --> 02:22:22.879
Our spiritual court will do that.
02:22:22.959 --> 02:22:23.680
They look out for us.
02:22:24.000 --> 02:22:24.239
Yeah.
02:22:24.879 --> 02:22:30.079
The same way they whoever looks out for you, and you just call you just like you're you know what it's like?
02:22:30.239 --> 02:22:32.639
You just keep forgetting their names and you give them other names.
02:22:32.879 --> 02:22:34.000
No, they're there, there's big angels.
02:22:34.079 --> 02:22:34.479
I've seen them.
02:22:34.559 --> 02:22:35.760
Oh yeah, the angels are big, tall.
02:22:36.000 --> 02:22:36.719
Bro, they're ain't they're yeah.
02:22:36.959 --> 02:22:38.479
But I call them spirits, you say angels.
02:22:38.719 --> 02:22:50.719
I believe there's like I and I believe like even demons, bro, like they'll sometimes they'll give you what you want for a certain amount of time for a few years, and then when it's time to collect, if you they're gonna there's definitely demons that do that.
02:22:50.879 --> 02:22:51.360
Yeah, bro.
02:22:51.520 --> 02:22:53.600
But where I that's not what I'm really working with.
02:22:53.840 --> 02:22:56.000
But you have Ken.
02:22:56.239 --> 02:22:59.680
If Satan were pot if it was possible to summon Satan, would you?
02:23:00.000 --> 02:23:00.399
Of course.
02:23:00.639 --> 02:23:01.520
I'd have him in my right.
02:23:01.760 --> 02:23:02.639
I'd be like, here you go.
02:23:03.200 --> 02:23:04.719
You saw the picture I sent you guys?
02:23:04.879 --> 02:23:05.200
Yeah.
02:23:05.760 --> 02:23:07.040
That's like a representation.
02:23:07.200 --> 02:23:07.520
Yeah.
02:23:07.760 --> 02:23:08.879
That's in Orlando.
02:23:09.440 --> 02:23:10.159
Where's that at?
02:23:10.719 --> 02:23:11.440
That was in your house though.
02:23:11.600 --> 02:23:12.559
No, no, no, that's not a house.
02:23:12.639 --> 02:23:12.959
Where was it?
02:23:13.120 --> 02:23:13.760
It's in a shop.
02:23:14.079 --> 02:23:14.879
Can you bring me there?
02:23:14.959 --> 02:23:16.879
Yeah, it's not like a then it's not a spiritual shop.
02:23:16.959 --> 02:23:18.159
It's like an oddity shop.
02:23:18.479 --> 02:23:21.360
And I just saw that section and took the photo.
02:23:21.520 --> 02:23:23.440
It's like they sell like crazy stuff.
02:23:23.680 --> 02:23:28.159
Weird like skeletons and stuff, like like a cat skeleton and that thing looked crazy.
02:23:29.200 --> 02:23:29.520
It's beautiful.
02:23:29.760 --> 02:23:31.120
We'll actually put it on you guys could see it.
02:23:31.360 --> 02:23:32.239
I'm trying to get one.
02:23:33.040 --> 02:23:34.479
Like a land, like the head, just the head.
02:23:34.559 --> 02:23:35.200
I think it looks expensive.
02:23:35.360 --> 02:23:37.040
Because it's such a good representation.
02:23:37.280 --> 02:23:38.239
You know what I mean?
02:23:38.479 --> 02:23:40.399
And then it's like of a lot of things, yeah.
02:23:40.559 --> 02:23:40.799
Yeah.
02:23:41.040 --> 02:23:44.479
Because if I decide I have to curse you, I'm gonna get one of those, and that's what I'm gonna use to get you.
02:23:44.639 --> 02:23:46.559
But I would never, I'm not gonna, I will not curse you.
02:23:46.719 --> 02:23:47.360
But you can.
02:23:47.520 --> 02:23:49.440
But I I I I want to empower you.
02:23:49.520 --> 02:23:50.239
That's the difference.
02:23:50.319 --> 02:23:53.680
I want you to be empowered because you're already power.
02:23:54.000 --> 02:23:55.520
You just it's not God.
02:23:55.680 --> 02:23:56.719
You keep giving it away.
02:23:56.879 --> 02:23:57.760
Oh, the Jesus, bro.
02:23:57.840 --> 02:23:58.159
All the glory.
02:23:59.120 --> 02:23:59.840
I can't win with this guy.
02:24:00.000 --> 02:24:00.319
All of it.
02:24:00.479 --> 02:24:01.440
I cannot win with this guy.
02:24:02.159 --> 02:24:03.600
And he means every word of it.
02:24:04.879 --> 02:24:05.360
I don't even know.
02:24:05.440 --> 02:24:07.360
But no, it's it's it's like you're different.
02:24:07.600 --> 02:24:10.239
And I want to say this for everybody watching, Christians.
02:24:10.399 --> 02:24:11.840
Like he said, you don't have to fear.
02:24:11.920 --> 02:24:13.760
And I don't I even say this for witches and warlocks.
02:24:13.840 --> 02:24:16.959
We we need to have these conversations in love.
02:24:17.360 --> 02:24:17.760
Exactly.
02:24:18.000 --> 02:24:20.319
And just chilling where we're not coming at each other's neck.
02:24:20.399 --> 02:24:21.600
And I I've always wanted these.
02:24:22.639 --> 02:24:24.799
And bro, like a lot of them don't want to.
02:24:24.879 --> 02:24:25.040
Yeah.
02:24:25.360 --> 02:24:28.719
They genuinely, like, the minute I say I'm Christian, get out of my shop.
02:24:29.120 --> 02:24:29.520
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:24:29.680 --> 02:24:32.000
Bro, like, I try and I go so loving.
02:24:32.079 --> 02:24:34.000
Like, I'm like, hey, can you know I'm a Christian?
02:24:34.079 --> 02:24:35.120
I just love Jesus.
02:24:35.200 --> 02:24:35.360
Right.
02:24:35.600 --> 02:24:36.319
Can we do an interview?
02:24:36.399 --> 02:24:37.200
No, no, no, no, no.
02:24:37.440 --> 02:24:38.319
Bro, they freak out.
02:24:38.399 --> 02:24:40.879
And I'm just like, like, bro, like, I'm not coming to kill you.
02:24:41.040 --> 02:24:46.879
So like you're the first person I would say, like, that actually has said that decided to actually intentionally come and do an interview, bro.
02:24:47.120 --> 02:24:47.280
Right.
02:24:47.520 --> 02:24:47.600
Yeah.
02:24:47.920 --> 02:24:48.799
So for real, thank you.
02:24:48.959 --> 02:24:49.520
Yeah, definitely.
02:24:49.600 --> 02:24:50.000
Thank you.
02:24:50.159 --> 02:24:53.600
It's like, you know, I wanted to start off like we gotta get to know each other.
02:24:53.680 --> 02:24:53.840
Yeah.
02:24:54.000 --> 02:24:55.760
And then we can really get heated next time.
02:24:55.840 --> 02:24:58.239
We can really be going with the you proposed the idea.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if you remember this.
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Yeah, I know.
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Like a year ago when we first met.
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You know why it happened?
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My spirits.
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I believe it was God putting it on your heart.
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It's I am and I am.
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Because when you walked up to me that day, you were like, you just beelined it right to me.
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And I was like, what?
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I just saw you online, like live.
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And then you just walked up, you were like, let's do it.
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And I was like, okay, the time is now.
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And by the way, guys, he is a he is a security bouncer at Eden.
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Oh, snap, yeah.
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Guess what?
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He's gonna go right back to Eden sooner.
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Right.
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They put an uh angel there with a burning sword, so I can't go back.
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Nah, nah.
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God's gonna bring you back to the garden through his presence.
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That's the whole point.
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I was already there in the snake.
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No, you weren't.
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I was there in the tree.
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And then it's like the say the snake, it wasn't even even Satan.
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That's that's for next time.
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My brother, amen.
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It's blessings.
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Hey, love you guys.
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Subscribe to the channel.
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Man, this is this is um, we're gonna definitely get a part two.
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Yeah, everyone's gonna see this.
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Comment if it blessed you, and I'm gonna say this for all Christians.
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Pray for Mark.
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Pray for him.
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Um pray for him.
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My name.
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I lied.
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Pray for Mark.
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Um, I believe, man, that that his heart is uh, I believe it's it's it's coming from a true place.
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Like he's not sitting here capping.
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So, from what I believe, you know this, bro.
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I I believe that that we all we're both seeking truth, like we both want truth.
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So I just pray that just pray that he will come to know truth.
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That's yes, I accept that.
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Pray that he will come to know truth, and we know the truth will set him free, and that's Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
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So, thank you guys.
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Subscribe to the channel.
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We out until next time.
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Salute.
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That was the conversation, and here's what you didn't see.
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I met Mark over a year ago, downtown Orlando.
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We were in the middle of revival, and somebody came up to me and said, Hey, there's a warlock here to talk to you.
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He told me he watches my videos.
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I actually ended up giving him a shirt.
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We talked, and I told him that we could do a podcast one day.
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And a year later, we did it.
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After the cameras went off, we kept talking.
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And Mark actually agreed to come to the church.
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And this is what happened.
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All right, so hey family, we are back with the post interview, and I am here with Mark, and he's just gonna explain just his experience and just your perspective on the service, your genuine thoughts on like how it was.
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We don't want anything fake, we just want the real raw, uncut version of your thoughts on the service.
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Good, because that's all I can give you.
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So immediately walk in, music is bumping.
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The drummer was he was earning every every cent of his pay.
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The music was good.
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I think um that's a big part of the services is the music.
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The music gets the people in the emotional state needed to like open up to the spirit.
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Maybe it's the Holy Ghost, maybe it's other spirits.
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I don't know what it is, but I know that music is very important.
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It went on and on and hyped people up.
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Then we get the music bumping again, and once we get the music bumping again, come up and pray.
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Then we start touching, people start falling, but I'm not with it.
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I think it's a lot of just it's just not there.
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It's not real.
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You feel me?
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It's real for the people experiencing it, but it's not real in this ecosystem of this world.
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It's just people are in trance, people are throwing up in buckets.
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I don't know what's going on.
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So do you think they're fake thrown?
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It's uh it's uh no.
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What I'm saying is the mind is a powerful thing and it can control the body.
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Would you come back here?
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Oh, I'm gonna come back, yeah.
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I haven't seen enough.
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I need to see more and I need to feel more.
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I wanna, I wanna, I wanna put myself in in the where you tell me I should put myself so I can, without a shadow of a doubt, say I tried it, I listened, I I heard the words, I let you pray on me.
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I let Richard Wright pray, pray to pray on me tonight.
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I want that to happen.
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I want to say, okay, look, and by me being that lamb, I'm gonna show you what the goat is.
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You feel me?
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That's that's valid.
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I respect you for that because I feel like the opposite, the polar thing, that people are like, oh, be scared, stay away from one another.
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But the fact that you're trying it, I think, I think you're gonna get saved.
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And do you have any any message to Christians or anybody out there that that you'd like to see?
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Definitely I think that Christians today should do what we're seeing happen here with Dana, Richard, the team.
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Have a conversation with the witch.
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Have a conversation with someone who disagrees with you.
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It's not that bad.
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If your God is who you say he is, you should have no fear.
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Just be genuine, be real.
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Like, don't come with the fakeness, like, I'm gonna listen just to tell you about my God.
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No, listen, observe, read your Bible, learn your Bible, and then be a soldier for your Lord, be on fire for your Lord.
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That's what it is.
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Like me and her were talking for a while out there.
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We had good, we were building, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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And it's like a lot of Christians wouldn't do that.
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They'd be like, oh, I'm not gonna talk.
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And we were joking and laughing, because it's not, it's all love.
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We have the same morals that you have for the most part.
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Everything they talked about in the sermon, I agree that people shouldn't do.
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We just call to a I don't have a God.
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That's the difference.
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Do you have a God?
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I don't.
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I am looking forward to seeing just the testimony unfold, however, it may come about.
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I'm excited to see it.
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I respect you a lot for like really showing up.
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But yeah, family.
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We'll see you guys again in the name of Jesus.
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Amen.
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I want to be completely honest with you guys.
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Mark has not given his life to Jesus yet, but I watched him in that room.
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He saw joy, he saw power, he saw deliverance, he saw something you can't argue with when you're standing in it.
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I believe the love of God touched him.
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And I believe God is working on his heart right now.
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All his family are believers.
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There's a foundation in that man.
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And here's what I see when I look at Mark that he has a call on his life.
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He's just been using it for the wrong camp.
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So I'm not asking you to argue with him in the comments or anybody else.
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I'm asking you to pray.
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Let's pray that Mark meets Jesus for real.
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Pray that a man who calls himself a warlock stands up one day with a testimony that will shake the nations.
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And Mark, if you're watching this, you're my friend and you know that, man.
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And that will never change.
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I love you, bro.
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And I love you too much to not want your soul saved.
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Church, let's pray for Mark.
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God bless.
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