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Welcome to the Kingdom Communicator Podcast.
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If you consider yourself a faith-based communicator, you're in the right place.
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We cover topics like marketing, platform building, book publishing, speaking, podcasting, and more.
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The purpose of this podcast is to encourage you as you share your message with the world.
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This episode features an interview with author, speaker, and coach Jennifer Nowak.
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This interview is captured at one of our recent workshops in Dallas, Texas.
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You can find us online at Kingdomcommunicator.com.
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We have resources, events, and an online community that you might want to check out.
00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:41.759
But for now, check out this interview with Jennifer Nowak.
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Jenny, thank you for being here.
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Absolutely, Kim, it's my pleasure.
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Wonderful.
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We cannot wait to hear about this new book that you have in your hand and with you today.
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I can't believe it's real.
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I know.
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And so much work.
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So much work, so much prayer.
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Wonderful.
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So Jenny Nock telling us all about her new book with her husband Chris, who can't be with us today, but has certainly been a founding partner in this work.
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So, Jenny, tell us a little bit about what you've got.
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Absolutely.
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We created this workbook so that people didn't always have to come to us.
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Kim, we've been doing this for 30 years.
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Right.
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And we have touched hundreds of people, hundreds of relationships, I don't know, 20, 30 churches, and we just can't always be everywhere anymore.
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And 24 years ago, somebody said you should write a book.
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Took me a minute.
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But here's the book.
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So we we put it in in print for everybody to be able to do the work at home.
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So wonderful.
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Wonderful way to share this vital information.
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So tell us a little bit, Jenny, about what that book actually holds.
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What are the contents in there?
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So who's it for?
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Wow.
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Who's it for?
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Who is it not for?
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Would be easier.
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Uh it's not for the newborn, like literally the one month old, because they're probably not hurt yet.
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Uh but it's an interactive workbook that heals traumas, that breaks patterns, that restores relationships.
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Don't we all need that?
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We all need that.
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We all need that from somewhere.
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And Jesus told us how that could work.
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Luke 4, 18 and 19.
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Heal the brokenhearted, set the captives free, setting at liberty those who are oppressed.
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Freedom.
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Freedom.
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Which brings us to what?
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Freedom for life.
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Freedom for life.
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It's not just for today, but you really can have extended, lasting, lifelong freedom.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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And a wonderful thing that is.
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It's a very wonderful thing.
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That's actually what Jesus died for.
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Absolutely.
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Scripture tells us.
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So what do you think would be most surprising for someone working through this book, Jenny?
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Most surprising?
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That it's gonna work.
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That it's gonna work.
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I mean, how many workbooks do we have on our desks?
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Yeah, I know.
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Okay, we don't answer that question.
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But but that's really the truth of it.
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Um, I have people who call me because their friend said, their husband said, their pastor said, you have to meet with Jenny.
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And they're like, fine.
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And by the end of our our hour, they're like, oh my gosh, I really didn't think that was going to work.
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Yes.
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And I feel lighter, I feel freer.
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I can think about that pain and it doesn't hurt anymore.
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And I'm like, yeah, Jesus said it would work.
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Jenny didn't say it would work, Jesus said it would work.
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We just happened to put it in a book so y'all can take it home and do the thing and and get the freedom.
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Um, but it it works.
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And it works when you read it in a book.
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That's the crazy part.
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It does.
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And what what sort of feedback are you getting from people about this?
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Um, one, that it's more easy to read than they thought.
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Okay.
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Uh, which we tried really hard to put white spaces in there.
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I don't know how you read books.
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I prefer not to.
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And so the more white spaces there are in there, the more likely I am to persist to the next page.
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And so there are the journal prompts in here, prompts in here.
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There are um the prayers are in here.
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And yeah, it's just really an easy book to use.
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That's wonderful.
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So, so Jenny, tell us a little bit, just a minute or so, about what you and Chris do other than this book, or that's going to encompass this book.
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Um, so this is this is our broad everybody needs this.
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We've been doing this for 30 years.
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Our passion project right now is working um with engaged, so premarital counseling and newlyweds.
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Yes.
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Uh, because our marriage almost crashed at 18 months.
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We were leaders in the church, we were doing all the things, Chris was on the worship team, and we we did, we crashed and burned.
00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:11.759
But thankfully, through this program and the coach that we had that we were working with, we are here today, now almost 31 years later.
00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:21.360
Um, and so that engaged couple population that are going, oh, we're so in love and it's just great, and we're in the church and it's just great.
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And I'm like, it is until it's not, sister.
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I mean, like, that's that's just the thing.
00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:36.639
And so in our premarital counseling, not only do we talk about finances and we talk about family and we talk about jobs and we talk about roles, but there will be differences, and that's not bad.
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But when you can take the differences and put the first four simple principles of heart healing on top of them, then you have a solution to all the differences that come up because they will all come up.
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Yes.
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So this is the guide to real life.
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The guide to real life.
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And then it can actually be plugged in anywhere with most situations.
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Whatever, absolutely in life stages, absolutely circumstances.
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Yes.
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So beautiful.
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Um, what is one thing that you would say, Jenny, to someone who's considering buying your book?
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Why would you not?
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You don't want to be free?
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You don't want to be free in all the areas that you can possibly be free in.
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I know that people have passions, right?
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I mean, that's what gets us up in the morning.
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The paychecks are nice, but they're also the things that we love.
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And when there are things that we love, but we can't get them to happen because we're stuck, I'm gonna say that's a wound.
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That's a hurt, that's a judgment, that's a pattern that we're locked in.
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And people want to be free from that.
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So let's get free from that.
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Perfect.
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Let's get free from an ads.
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Jenny, thank you so much for being with us in the studio today.
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One more quick run through the title and how to find your book.
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Freedom for Life, God's lasting, God's framework for lasting healing.
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It will be available on Amazon in April 2026.
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Thanks for listening to this episode of the Kingdom Communicator Podcast.
00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:13.920
If you'd like to join our online community, be sure to visit us at Kingdom Communicator.com.
00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:04.959
Welcome to the Kingdom Communicator Podcast.
00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:09.039
If you consider yourself a faith-based communicator, you're in the right place.
00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:14.960
We cover topics like marketing, platform building, book publishing, speaking, podcasting, and more.
00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:19.839
The purpose of this podcast is to encourage you as you share your message with the world.
00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:25.120
This episode features an interview with author, speaker, and coach Jennifer Nowak.
00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:29.920
This interview is captured at one of our recent workshops in Dallas, Texas.
00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:33.359
You can find us online at Kingdomcommunicator.com.
00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:38.159
We have resources, events, and an online community that you might want to check out.
00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:41.759
But for now, check out this interview with Jennifer Nowak.
00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:45.920
Jenny, thank you for being here.
00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:47.840
Absolutely, Kim, it's my pleasure.
00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:48.560
Wonderful.
00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:54.479
We cannot wait to hear about this new book that you have in your hand and with you today.
00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:55.920
I can't believe it's real.
00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:56.479
I know.
00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:04.079
And so much work.
00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:06.239
So much work, so much prayer.
00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:07.280
Wonderful.
00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:19.280
So Jenny Nock telling us all about her new book with her husband Chris, who can't be with us today, but has certainly been a founding partner in this work.
00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.000
So, Jenny, tell us a little bit about what you've got.
00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:23.120
Absolutely.
00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:27.680
We created this workbook so that people didn't always have to come to us.
00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:29.680
Kim, we've been doing this for 30 years.
00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:29.920
Right.
00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:39.120
And we have touched hundreds of people, hundreds of relationships, I don't know, 20, 30 churches, and we just can't always be everywhere anymore.
00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:42.400
And 24 years ago, somebody said you should write a book.
00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:43.680
Took me a minute.
00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:44.799
But here's the book.
00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:48.400
So we we put it in in print for everybody to be able to do the work at home.
00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:49.280
So wonderful.
00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:53.040
Wonderful way to share this vital information.
00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:56.879
So tell us a little bit, Jenny, about what that book actually holds.
00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:58.400
What are the contents in there?
00:01:58.640 --> 00:01:59.840
So who's it for?
00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:00.560
Wow.
00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:01.439
Who's it for?
00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:02.560
Who is it not for?
00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:03.920
Would be easier.
00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:11.120
Uh it's not for the newborn, like literally the one month old, because they're probably not hurt yet.
00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:19.039
Uh but it's an interactive workbook that heals traumas, that breaks patterns, that restores relationships.
00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:20.319
Don't we all need that?
00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:21.199
We all need that.
00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:22.960
We all need that from somewhere.
00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.280
And Jesus told us how that could work.
00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.120
Luke 4, 18 and 19.
00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:32.960
Heal the brokenhearted, set the captives free, setting at liberty those who are oppressed.
00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:34.080
Freedom.
00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:34.800
Freedom.
00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:37.280
Which brings us to what?
00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:38.479
Freedom for life.
00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:39.439
Freedom for life.
00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:45.039
It's not just for today, but you really can have extended, lasting, lifelong freedom.
00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:45.680
Yes.
00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:46.319
Yes.
00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:48.080
And a wonderful thing that is.
00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:49.199
It's a very wonderful thing.
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That's actually what Jesus died for.
00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:51.599
Absolutely.
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Scripture tells us.
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So what do you think would be most surprising for someone working through this book, Jenny?
00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:01.759
Most surprising?
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That it's gonna work.
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That it's gonna work.
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I mean, how many workbooks do we have on our desks?
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Yeah, I know.
00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:10.479
Okay, we don't answer that question.
00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:13.520
But but that's really the truth of it.
00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:19.759
Um, I have people who call me because their friend said, their husband said, their pastor said, you have to meet with Jenny.
00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:21.039
And they're like, fine.
00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:27.120
And by the end of our our hour, they're like, oh my gosh, I really didn't think that was going to work.
00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:27.520
Yes.
00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:30.240
And I feel lighter, I feel freer.
00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:34.080
I can think about that pain and it doesn't hurt anymore.
00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:37.039
And I'm like, yeah, Jesus said it would work.
00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:39.680
Jenny didn't say it would work, Jesus said it would work.
00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:44.479
We just happened to put it in a book so y'all can take it home and do the thing and and get the freedom.
00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:47.039
Um, but it it works.
00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:49.199
And it works when you read it in a book.
00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:50.639
That's the crazy part.
00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:51.360
It does.
00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:55.759
And what what sort of feedback are you getting from people about this?
00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:58.960
Um, one, that it's more easy to read than they thought.
00:03:59.199 --> 00:03:59.520
Okay.
00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:03.039
Uh, which we tried really hard to put white spaces in there.
00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:04.719
I don't know how you read books.
00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:06.240
I prefer not to.
00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:11.680
And so the more white spaces there are in there, the more likely I am to persist to the next page.
00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.840
And so there are the journal prompts in here, prompts in here.
00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:19.680
There are um the prayers are in here.
00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:24.240
And yeah, it's just really an easy book to use.
00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:25.519
That's wonderful.
00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:37.040
So, so Jenny, tell us a little bit, just a minute or so, about what you and Chris do other than this book, or that's going to encompass this book.
00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:41.439
Um, so this is this is our broad everybody needs this.
00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:43.600
We've been doing this for 30 years.
00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:51.680
Our passion project right now is working um with engaged, so premarital counseling and newlyweds.
00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:52.160
Yes.
00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.920
Uh, because our marriage almost crashed at 18 months.
00:04:56.079 --> 00:05:03.360
We were leaders in the church, we were doing all the things, Chris was on the worship team, and we we did, we crashed and burned.
00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:11.759
But thankfully, through this program and the coach that we had that we were working with, we are here today, now almost 31 years later.
00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:21.360
Um, and so that engaged couple population that are going, oh, we're so in love and it's just great, and we're in the church and it's just great.
00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:23.279
And I'm like, it is until it's not, sister.
00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:25.439
I mean, like, that's that's just the thing.
00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:36.639
And so in our premarital counseling, not only do we talk about finances and we talk about family and we talk about jobs and we talk about roles, but there will be differences, and that's not bad.
00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:49.600
But when you can take the differences and put the first four simple principles of heart healing on top of them, then you have a solution to all the differences that come up because they will all come up.
00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:50.160
Yes.
00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:54.240
So this is the guide to real life.
00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:55.600
The guide to real life.
00:05:55.759 --> 00:06:01.040
And then it can actually be plugged in anywhere with most situations.
00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:05.439
Whatever, absolutely in life stages, absolutely circumstances.
00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:05.839
Yes.
00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:07.199
So beautiful.
00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:13.519
Um, what is one thing that you would say, Jenny, to someone who's considering buying your book?
00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:16.079
Why would you not?
00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:18.720
You don't want to be free?
00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:22.800
You don't want to be free in all the areas that you can possibly be free in.
00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.439
I know that people have passions, right?
00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:27.120
I mean, that's what gets us up in the morning.
00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.720
The paychecks are nice, but they're also the things that we love.
00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:37.920
And when there are things that we love, but we can't get them to happen because we're stuck, I'm gonna say that's a wound.
00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:41.680
That's a hurt, that's a judgment, that's a pattern that we're locked in.
00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:43.759
And people want to be free from that.
00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:45.040
So let's get free from that.
00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:45.680
Perfect.
00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.199
Let's get free from an ads.
00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:50.800
Jenny, thank you so much for being with us in the studio today.
00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.639
One more quick run through the title and how to find your book.
00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:59.360
Freedom for Life, God's lasting, God's framework for lasting healing.
00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:02.959
It will be available on Amazon in April 2026.
00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:07.759
Thanks for listening to this episode of the Kingdom Communicator Podcast.
00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:13.920
If you'd like to join our online community, be sure to visit us at Kingdom Communicator.com.
