How Sam Ramsden Built "Silly Stories for Kids" Podcast

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So imagine this, you are juggling
the demands of your business.
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You have four energetic kids, you get to.
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Parent every single day and against
all odds, somehow you find yourself
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with a podcast that's topping.
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The global podcast charts all within
a year, it might sound impossible.
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But the guest today that I have on did it,
and this guy has millions of downloads.
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I mean, the keeps
skyrocketing and his podcast.
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Is epic.
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It's actually a family favorite.
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So his name today is Sam Ramsden.
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He heads up a podcast called Silly
Stories for Kids, and it's literally
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my daughter's favorite podcast.
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And this was kind of like a pinch
me moment for both of us, for my
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daughter and me and I actually
had her guest on this podcast.
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A couple of times she kind of pops in.
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Uh, a couple of times in this
chat and Sam is just so dang cool.
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And he breaks down Sam.
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Breaks down exactly what he
did and how this whole, like
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literally just storytelling magic.
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It just pours out of his brain
right into the microphone and
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how he's turned that into.
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A, not only a passion project, but now
who knows, it's probably going to be
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the thing that he carries into for years
to come, because it's like literally
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millions of downloads and people all
around the world, listening to this
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every single day, he breaks down how he's
doing it all and gets real, like, talks
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about all the stuff that happens behind
the scenes, how he got to this point.
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And, uh, and all the fun
stuff and the journey ahead.
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So there's a bunch of stuff here
for everyone to take in and, um,
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and you get to meet my daughter
as well in here very soon.
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Sam, for one, I got to give you a big
props and thank you for, uh, for, for
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responding for one to our wild email.
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That was totally out of the blue.
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You didn't know who I was
or McKenna, my daughter.
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mate, but, uh, it was catchy.
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It caught the attention and next minute
we're playing songs around the house
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going, mate, I got to talk to this guy.
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Yeah, we'll talk about,
I mean, what the song?
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Yeah.
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I shared a couple of AI, those Suno, uh,
AI y'all, if you haven't, uh, you know,
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those listening and watching go try Suno.
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It's like you said, Sam, it's catchy.
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Now it's all like, what's your,
your family's been doing at
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your church group and all that.
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seriously.
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It's one of those things I've been
sending Suno birthday songs, sending
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out things to the boys when they make
mistakes at, uh, at the electrical
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business, send them a joke song
for a bit of fun, it's been great.
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That's great.
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That's a good use.
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It's like, Hey, here's a learning moment.
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I'm going to put it in a song.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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how's the, are they
pretty receptive to it?
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Oh, they love it.
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It's one of those things where you send
someone a song and when they hear their
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name and just random lyrics and all that
kind of thing, it just creates a lot of
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fun and joy and then yeah, we've, uh,
we've had a lot of fun all over the place.
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I got to give you props because
what you just said there, that is
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what you're doing really well at
scale now too, is creating joy.
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Yeah.
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Through your podcast,
silly stories for kids.
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And it's, it's, it's cool that
we're having this conversation,
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almost surreal in a way.
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And I know you probably maybe get
that often when you meet parents,
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but like backstory for everyone, my
daughter McKenna, who sure spliced
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into the intro of somehow in this,
this episode, she might even be
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pounding the door to come back, but,
No joke, like 10 episodes a day.
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She's probably gone through the catalog.
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So she's just like, she even asked
me today, is he making more episodes?
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I'm like, it's literally
what he's doing today.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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They're coming.
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Um, but yeah, props to
you for, for doing this.
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And, and you know, like my wife and I
were like, you know what, we should just
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see if he's open for a, for an interview.
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You know, share them with even
more parents who are listening.
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Cause I know there's a lot of you
listening and yeah, like you've extracted
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my daughter from a lot of screens.
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She wasn't really on, on many of them, but
like the fact that you were able to kind
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of slow things down in our world, I feel
like, and spark creativity and then joy.
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Like you just said, feel like that's,
that's what your show does really well.
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So thank you.
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Uh, it's been such a blessing to me
because I, um, I don't know if you
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know too much about my story, but this
whole podcast thing was not my idea.
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It was something that, uh, somebody
else suggested, my father in
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law actually, and I never really
expected it to go outside my family
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and maybe a couple of our friends.
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And then.
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Now for me, having moments of someone
on the other side of the world being
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like, Hey, do you want to come chat?
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Our daughter's been listening.
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It's just, it's mind blowing for me.
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So much fun, but absolutely mind blowing.
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And just to see so much joy from so
many different kids and hear all the
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different ways that this little podcast
is being used and all the good that
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it's doing in the world, mate, I feel
very, very blessed to be a part of it.
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So
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Yeah, man, well, I'm happy your father
in law gave you that little nudge like
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take me back even prior to so and I
know a little bit about this but set
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the scene for everybody else cuz like
you are a phenomenal storyteller and
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I'm assuming you really do make these
off on the fly like every episode.
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But yeah
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I'm a dad of four.
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I got four little girls and, um,
I run an electrical business.
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I do a lot of other
different bits and pieces.
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Um, I'm stupidly busy, but, uh, I,
when our oldest was going from the cot
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into her own bed, um, I just started
laying down on the floor at night and
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I have a very, very, very busy brain.
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It's very exciting in there.
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And so I, uh, I just started making things
up, just started making up stories and
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little things, and it just kept going.
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And we had more kids and more stories
and more kids and more stories.
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And it just kept going
and going and going.
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And then, um, one day my father
in law, he said, uh, I need you
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to get your kids looked after.
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I need to, uh, I need to
talk to you and your wife.
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And we were both just like, Oh
no, what, what have we done?
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What have we forgot?
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We thought we were in big trouble.
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And then he, uh, he took us to a
pub and just sat us down and said,
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Hey, I've been watching you tell
these stories for a long time now.
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He's like, I want you to
turn it into a podcast.
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And he'd been researching
it and all kinds of stuff.
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And he's like, this is how it works.
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And I want to back ya.
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If you want to do it, I'll push
ya and we'll see how it goes.
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And so I was like, sure, I'll, uh, I'll
start recording a few little stories.
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I honestly thought it would be
something that hopefully my kids
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would be able to show their kids one
day of the moment that their granddad
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went insane or something like that.
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So, but, um, yeah, as it started
going, people just started listening
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and it was just, it was wild.
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It was a wild and still is an
absolutely wild little journey.
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So.
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Loving it.
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it's been what?
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Almost two years, I believe, right?
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Nah, not even one.
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So we started, we started
in November last year.
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So
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Ha!
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And just crossed a
million downloads, right?
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yeah, well, we're running, we're
running a promo at the moment.
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We, well, it literally just ended.
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We did a competition for our million,
but, um, what most people don't
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realize is that it's, it's firing.
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So we're actually over one
and a half million now.
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So we'll be, we'll be pushing the
two in the not too distant future,
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which Mate, talking those kind
of numbers just explodes my head.
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It's one of those things that you
just can't kind of comprehend.
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The funniest thing is when I actually
kicked it off, because I get excited
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about things and just want to get rolling.
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So we, uh, we actually started it two
weeks after our youngest was born.
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So we had a two week old when
we kicked this thing off.
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And, uh, it's yeah, not the, uh, not
the wisest decision, but so much fun.
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So, alright, I got so many questions,
which, like, this leads to a
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great, yeah, it's always a good
time when I'm feeling this way.
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Um, was your, was your father in
law, like, was he just obsessed
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with podcasts or, like, was
there, like, what, what triggered
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just one of those people that just,
he's quite entrepreneurial and just
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sees the world in an amazing way.
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And he literally.
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Listen to my stories and went,
what can we do with these?
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And then started researching it for
himself and stumbled onto podcasting.
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He put in like two months worth of
research before he spoke to me about it.
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So not his space, not anything like he
runs an insurance dry cleaning business,
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working with insurance companies.
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He's done a whole bunch of stuff over
his lifetime, but nothing in the tech
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space, nothing in audio, nothing in media.
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Uh, But just, he's one of
those people that he's amazing.
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I, I lucked out with, uh, in laws.
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They're, they're amazing, but
he just saw what I was doing.
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He's like, this is too good not to share.
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So he saw stuff in it that I didn't.
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And every time something big happens, I'm
always like, Oh, I cannot believe this.
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He's like, I saw it coming.
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So,
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That's good to have, especially if
he's a researcher and kind of not too
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quick to open his mouth, I guess, about
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nah, he's really wise.
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He's really wise.
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I hope he doesn't listen.
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I don't want him to hear that.
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Ah, go to his head too much.
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Yeah, that's, that's awesome.
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So you, you said you run
an electrical company.
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Is that your company?
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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So I've got it.
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Uh, that's the, that's the company
there, Ramp Electrical, which,
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um, funny story behind that one.
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I never wanted to run an
electrical company either.
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So I was, um, I was working as an
electrician and I always told everyone,
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there is no chance you will ever
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But, um, two months before me and my wife
were about to get married, the company
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that I was working for liquidated.
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And so she was still studying
full time and I had to grab work.
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And there was this little program
that was going at the time,
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changing electrical meters.
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So I was like, Oh yeah,
I'll just do that for a bit.
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And then I'll find another job
and I'll get back into that.
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But then that fell apart.
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And then all of a sudden I'm newly
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bills and everything and got a company.
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I was like, I guess I work for myself now.
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So we just been rolling
with it ever since.
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I always joke with a lot of my mates
that I run a side business called
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What Not To Do Business Consulting.
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Cause, uh, I have stuffed up absolutely
everything, but I'm so grateful for it
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at the same time, because the lessons
I've learned through making every single
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mistake in an electrical company has
prepared me so much more for stepping into
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this podcast space and trying different
things and just the confidence of even
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when everything falls apart, it's okay.
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And as long as you just keep
rolling and like got your family
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stick together and just work
together and do whatever you can.
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It's actually okay.
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So yeah, that's been
a, our little journey.
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That's a huge lesson, man.
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And I mean, I love it.
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What not to do business
consulting company.
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I mean, cause you and I both, and
I think a lot of people, cause I've
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interviewed a ton of them and some
really know the research behind this, but
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it's like a lot of us are visionaries.
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We're quick activators.
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So we get an idea and literally like two
hours later, we have a company formed
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legally, like not just in our brain
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moving and we're like,
what did we just do?
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Yep.
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Oh, mate.
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I've, I've learned over the time that
I've learned what I'm good at and I'm
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learned a lot of the things that I'm
really not good at and learned the
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importance of having different people
around and how much that can just
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influence the success of anything that
you do, because I am not great at admin.
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I am not great at a lot of things.
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I'm creative, I have big ideas, I
can, I enjoy system and process a lot
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of the time, which is quite strange,
but I need someone who can make sure
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that that turns into something that is
transferable to other people, that works
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outside of my brain and can get some
accountability and all that kind of thing.
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So I've just learned the importance
of having a real diverse skillset and
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diverse set of brains working together
for something to go really well.
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I guess like in that role, cause
yeah, it is kind of a nice spot
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where you can have these ideas, but
also you, you appreciate systems.
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I guess.
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Are you, are you good at the systems
or are you like delegating those out?
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You're pretty good at them
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Nah, I I'm good at creating a system.
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I'm not good at sticking to it
myself, but I can create a system
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that works for other people.
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So in the electrical business, I really
enjoy having a look at like, if we're
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doing a certain set of testing or
something consistently putting something
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together that helps anyone that steps
into that role, make sure that they can
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complete the testing the way we want it
done to the quality that we need so that
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the product that we're handing over.
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Is at a standard that represents
the company that we want to be.
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So for me, I can create something like
that, but if you put me in that testing
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role and expect me to stick to my own
system, my brain just goes wild and
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I'm doing all kinds of other things and
thinking in every single direction you can
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imagine, but I, uh, I enjoy that process.
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If that makes sense.
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It does.
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'cause I am that person too.
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I'm very similar . That's why I
have an ops manager that literally
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checks in almost daily and just like,
did you get your emails yet like,
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or, um, you know, whatever it is.
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Like the consistent certain
things stick, you know?
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But how, how have you done
that with the podcast?
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'cause it, at least from what I've
understood, you're a one man show as
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yeah, well, it's, it's just
developed at the start, I,
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cause I was so excited about it.
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There's just so much excitement
and you just want to keep going.
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You just want to get it done.
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You just want to do the next thing.
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You want to do the next thing.
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My wife is really good
for some accountability.
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she knows what's going on.
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She knows where I'm at.
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And if I'm kind of trailing behind
a little bit, she'll very gently be
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like, Hey, have you had a look at this?
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And I'll be like, Oh yeah, yep.
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Got to do that.
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Got to do that.
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Got to do that.
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And we just kept pushing on.
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Um, I'm pretty blessed now.
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I am through my electrical business.
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We were doing some testing at a house
and, um, I'm quite a chatty person.
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I always like to kind
of get to know people.
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I find people really interesting.
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So I love to hear their stories and
where they've come from and what
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they do and all that sort of stuff.
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And I was chatting to this lady
and when I called to say I was
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on my way, the number that came
up on my phone said Kaizen Media.
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I was like, Oh, I wonder what that is.
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I'll ask when I get there.
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And I'm chatting to him,
like, what's Kaizen Media?
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She's like, Oh, it's
my husband's business.
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He helps a few podcasts grow
and do a few bits and pieces.
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And I was like, Oh yeah, I run a podcast.
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And then.
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I saw the look on her face of like, yeah,
every man and his dog has a podcast.
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Well, you, you got no idea, but I
think she must've looked us up or
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something while I was doing the testing.
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So at the end, she's like,
I think my husband might
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actually want to talk to you.
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And so.
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Long story short, ended
up chatting to this bloke.
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He wasn't just some guy
that worked with podcasts.
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The few podcasts that he worked
with was like professional golfer,
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professional AFL football player.
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And, um, he'd been heavily involved in
one of the major radio stations here in
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Melbourne, um, as their content director.
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And so we met up and he's like,
I'm at the stage of my life where I
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just want to do things that I find
interesting with people that I like.
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If you want some help getting this thing
off the ground, I'd love to help you out.
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So he's jumped on board and he's helping
us kind of work on a little bit of that
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business back end kind of stuff, which
it's like what we're talking about.
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It enables me to focus on the creative
and focus on the stuff that I find
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really important, which is the
impact, the creating joy, the having
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an opportunity to really speak some
truth and some love and some happiness
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into families and that sort of thing.
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And he's on the back end.
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So whenever I get asked to do something
now, like we're just starting to make
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a tiny bit of money here and there on
some bits and pieces, but he's happy
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to handle all that money conversation
stuff so that I can say, Hey, yep.
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I'd love to do that.
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Talking's that talking spot here.
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Uh, I'll flick you through to my
manager and I can just keep that
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happy, light involved persona and
not need to worry about the back end.
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So that's been a massive blessing.
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That's a, that's probably one
of the most important things.
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And obviously, you know, you're
not new to the business rodeo
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because what the electrical
company is like a decade at least,
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yeah, yeah,
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So it's not like you're just jumping in.
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So I think it's, it's smart.
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And.
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Like, cause I've monetized my podcast in
so many ways, but that's my background.
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Like I think media and marketing and how
to monetize, but I love the fact that
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you just said like the whole essence
of everything you bring is fun, joy.
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Like there's a bigger mission of impact.
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And I think you don't
want to lose that ever.
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was the thing that scared
me about monetization.
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I'm like, how do I make something
off this without betraying my
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audience, without losing the
integrity of what this thing is?
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Because I don't know, as it developed and
as it grew, it just became its own thing.
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And it was something that as it grew,
I'm like, I want to protect this.
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I don't want to compromise it.
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I don't want to do anything to
kind of jeopardize how it's working
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because I just get story after story
of different families and different
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kids and stuff that it's doing
for people that I would have never
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predicted or expected or even imagined.
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I'm like, cool.
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Like I put a heck of a
lot of work into this.
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It'd be great if we could make a
little bit of something from it.
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But the most important thing for
me is that, is that impact side.
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That's awesome.
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And cause I've, I've heard some other
kid podcast and a couple of these,
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like I've heard, I'm like, Why is there
a Shopify ad in the middle of this?
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Like, and I'm just like, and
literally I've had to explain
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ads to my daughter, McKenna.
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I'm like, well, you know, and this is
why, and she's pretty quick, luckily.
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Cause she's, she's heard the cut.
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My wife's also an entrepreneur.
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So it's like, she's just, here's it, which
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Yeah.
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good, bad, maybe.
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But, um, but yeah, I'm just like, you're
not going to want to buy this thing.
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And that's what this thing is aimed to do.
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And.
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So yeah, it's, it's tricky.
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It's gotta be more tricky
than ever for kids too.
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You know,
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Oh, it's wild.
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Man.
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What, what you've done well is Yodoplayer.
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Cause that's one where literally
like, I don't know if that was a
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sponsored thing or just partnership.
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That was like the most joyful little
coincidence ever, because I didn't
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even know what a Yoto player was.
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And, um, they were moving towards
Australia to launch there and they picked
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up a PR company in Australia called
Sling and Stone, who they're incredible.
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And, um, they just said, Hey, is
there any local Australian talent that
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you reckon it'd be worth going to?
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Connecting with, and similar to you, the
lady who was, uh, running it just had
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kids that were listening to our podcast.
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And they're like, Hey, let's,
let's have a chat to this guy.
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And they reached out and I'm
like, what is this Yodo thing?
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And then the more I looked into it,
I'm like, this answers everything
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that I find tricky with kids podcasts.
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This thing's amazing.
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They sent us a few and then they took us
up to Sydney to do an event with them.
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And yeah, I know that they've
got other stuff in the works.
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So it's been such a joy working with
them and they're just such a fun,
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generous company that it was just
like, Oh, this just works so well.
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And for me, first kind of dabbling into
working with a company on the podcast
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kind of thing, it's been a real blessing.
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The funny thing was on one of
their first press releases, like
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I'm new to this kind of world.
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I don't live in the media
type space or anything.
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And they've sent me a little
document of like, oh, can you have
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a read of this and let us know if
you're happy with it to be put out?
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And then, there's my name in the same
kind of context as like, the Roald
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Dahl family and all this kind of stuff.
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I'm like, uh, and so I
think I get confused.
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So Paul McCartney, I'm
like, uh, hang on a second.
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What's my name doing in this little thing?
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It was a massive laugh.
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So I was just like, Oh, if you wouldn't
mind just moving my name right up next
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to Paul, that'd be, that'd be great.
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But, um, Oh my, it was, uh, it was a real.
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Uh, I'm going to be continuously shocked
every single time anything happens with
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this podcast because I always err on
the side of, it's not going to happen,
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it's not going to go anywhere, but over
and over again, I'm just surprised.
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on the growth side, I'm super curious
because, I mean, It just how fast it's
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picking up and why would it slow down
because I, at least I think there's a need
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for slowing down, not, not the growth of
your show, but in terms of life, like,
459
00:22:23,572 --> 00:22:27,592
you know, just screens, you have a I
now, you know, there's obviously both
460
00:22:27,592 --> 00:22:30,202
sides of this and that's how I see it.
461
00:22:30,242 --> 00:22:34,122
Um, where do you think their
growth's coming from or like the
462
00:22:34,122 --> 00:22:37,162
bigger, I don't know, like, do
you have any ideas behind it?
463
00:22:37,162 --> 00:22:40,447
Uh, Like the bigger
impact with kids, people.
464
00:22:40,447 --> 00:22:40,777
I don't know.
465
00:22:40,807 --> 00:22:42,547
Like I'm always fascinated about people
466
00:22:42,892 --> 00:22:50,212
I think, I think I did one thing well
when I started it and I, like, I can
467
00:22:50,212 --> 00:22:52,082
get hyper focused on things sometimes.
468
00:22:52,082 --> 00:22:56,372
And so before I kicked this off, I was
just like watching every YouTube video
469
00:22:56,372 --> 00:23:00,192
I could find on podcasting, setting up
a podcast, how to do it, what to do,
470
00:23:00,202 --> 00:23:03,452
what to use, mucking around with all
different kinds of bits and pieces.
471
00:23:03,452 --> 00:23:05,882
But I put heaps of thought into
what I was going to call it.
472
00:23:06,362 --> 00:23:11,192
And so like I had these clever witty names
at first, I had like a few joke names
473
00:23:11,192 --> 00:23:14,572
as well that were just like my kind of
laughing thing in the back of my head.
474
00:23:14,952 --> 00:23:17,952
but then I really thought about it
and when I picked silly stories for
475
00:23:17,952 --> 00:23:22,232
kids, I was like, we've got some
alliteration, we've got searchable
476
00:23:22,232 --> 00:23:26,472
terms, we've got something that's
just gonna crop up in people's spaces.
477
00:23:27,092 --> 00:23:33,042
And I think we've just managed to have
people stumble onto the podcast and
478
00:23:33,042 --> 00:23:34,402
love it and just want to share it.
479
00:23:34,932 --> 00:23:35,532
And so.
480
00:23:36,452 --> 00:23:39,452
we've got a lot of growth from
people just telling their friends and
481
00:23:39,452 --> 00:23:43,042
telling other parents and all that
kind of thing as well, but it just
482
00:23:43,042 --> 00:23:47,082
keeps naturally planting another seed
of one of those people every time
483
00:23:47,082 --> 00:23:49,482
somebody accidentally stumbles onto it.
484
00:23:49,952 --> 00:23:54,142
Um, and partnering with Yodo, that
kind of blew our numbers up, something
485
00:23:54,142 --> 00:23:57,362
chronic, because all of a sudden all
these people that had Yodo players
486
00:23:57,702 --> 00:24:01,342
are finding silly stories for kids
on there and going, oh, what is this?
487
00:24:01,342 --> 00:24:02,072
This is cool.
488
00:24:02,402 --> 00:24:03,362
And then it just kept growing.
489
00:24:03,972 --> 00:24:04,212
in the
490
00:24:04,512 --> 00:24:07,492
Yeah, they, they put us up
the top of their kids podcast
491
00:24:07,502 --> 00:24:09,092
section for a bit at the start.
492
00:24:09,162 --> 00:24:13,332
And I just watched our numbers
just go and I was like, Oh, okay,
493
00:24:13,352 --> 00:24:14,882
this is, this is a lot of fun.
494
00:24:15,122 --> 00:24:20,222
We, um, we also had a bit of a blow up
in Australia when, um, I still don't
495
00:24:20,222 --> 00:24:25,622
know how, but our, our podcast managed
to trend number one for kids and family
496
00:24:25,632 --> 00:24:27,172
podcasts in the world for a moment.
497
00:24:27,652 --> 00:24:31,547
And so for a few weeks there, we
were trending number one and I was
498
00:24:31,632 --> 00:24:33,812
just, laughing my head off about it.
499
00:24:33,852 --> 00:24:35,972
Cause it was one of those things
I'm like, I've cheated the
500
00:24:35,972 --> 00:24:37,172
algorithm or something here.
501
00:24:37,632 --> 00:24:41,562
But, um, yeah, a couple of the news
stations and stuff around here,
502
00:24:41,952 --> 00:24:44,482
like put us on the news and we
had a couple of little interviews
503
00:24:44,482 --> 00:24:45,482
and all that kind of stuff.
504
00:24:45,482 --> 00:24:49,462
So that gave us a real kick in the
backside in regards to Australia.
505
00:24:49,482 --> 00:24:53,072
And then, yeah, it just keeps rolling
from there, but it's funny because
506
00:24:53,072 --> 00:24:56,572
you get like, all of a sudden you're
number one in Cyprus and you're like,
507
00:24:56,982 --> 00:24:59,092
who the heck's listening in Cyprus?
508
00:24:59,172 --> 00:25:00,812
I'm like, it's, it's so much fun.
509
00:25:01,477 --> 00:25:02,137
it's incredible.
510
00:25:02,137 --> 00:25:03,597
I mean, but you're
putting in the work, man.
511
00:25:03,597 --> 00:25:07,637
And yeah, it's early, but the fact that
you have so much joy and like, it's
512
00:25:07,637 --> 00:25:09,717
not like it started with the podcast.
513
00:25:09,727 --> 00:25:14,277
That's what I think is so cool is you have
your four daughters and you know, like,
514
00:25:14,297 --> 00:25:17,647
obviously you have some younger ones that
haven't probably totally grasped, you
515
00:25:17,647 --> 00:25:20,197
know, like your storytelling abilities.
516
00:25:20,739 --> 00:25:22,409
it's so much more than that as well.
517
00:25:22,409 --> 00:25:29,379
Like, me as a person, I'm someone who
loves to be silly, be creative, bring
518
00:25:29,379 --> 00:25:31,549
joy in weird and interesting ways.
519
00:25:31,849 --> 00:25:36,759
So I've been doing stuff at a local
church youth group for shivers,
520
00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:39,759
like 17, 18 years now kind of thing.
521
00:25:40,219 --> 00:25:40,749
And.
522
00:25:41,484 --> 00:25:45,574
I've just seen that creativity spill out
in all different areas of the air, like
523
00:25:45,574 --> 00:25:51,764
making up ridiculous game nights that
involve some alien that the kids find
524
00:25:51,764 --> 00:25:55,654
in a back room who's one of the leaders
and then they have to go on adventures
525
00:25:55,684 --> 00:26:00,234
to like find eggs and collect rocket
fuel and build rockets and then blast
526
00:26:00,234 --> 00:26:04,304
off into the future and all this kind
of stuff but I learned over the time
527
00:26:04,304 --> 00:26:10,794
that when you're working and serving
as well in a way that just completely
528
00:26:10,794 --> 00:26:15,704
aligns with who you are, the joy that
you find in that is astronomical.
529
00:26:15,774 --> 00:26:18,584
And then when you get to see
that joy transferring to other
530
00:26:18,584 --> 00:26:21,324
people, it becomes, it's not work.
531
00:26:21,334 --> 00:26:22,722
It's just something that is just.
532
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:26,999
absolutely amazing, which is why I'm
pushing so hard with this because
533
00:26:27,489 --> 00:26:29,399
this is where I find so much joy.
534
00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:31,169
I love sharing.
535
00:26:31,169 --> 00:26:34,069
I love being creative, creative
and all that kind of stuff.
536
00:26:34,459 --> 00:26:36,119
And I love seeing the impact.
537
00:26:36,129 --> 00:26:39,989
So yeah, it pushes you to keep rolling
and just keep putting in the work.
538
00:26:39,989 --> 00:26:40,309
So
539
00:26:40,594 --> 00:26:41,504
the best, man.
540
00:26:41,504 --> 00:26:45,154
Yeah, and you found it, like you said,
and most people, I mean, don't find that.
541
00:26:45,174 --> 00:26:49,514
They feel like, yeah, it's a have to,
not a get to kind of situation, right?
542
00:26:49,724 --> 00:26:51,014
And you, you found it early.
543
00:26:51,491 --> 00:26:55,151
I'm gonna pause this really fast to
go shout out another podcast that I
544
00:26:55,151 --> 00:26:57,191
think you should peak at yourself.
545
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546
00:26:59,111 --> 00:27:02,471
It's hosted by Troy Sandidge
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547
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by the HubSpot podcast network.
548
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The audio destination for
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549
00:27:07,421 --> 00:27:08,021
Thank you.
550
00:27:08,441 --> 00:27:11,201
And what I love about this
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551
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short and snappy it's actionable.
552
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And to the point it's under 30
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553
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Eliminate a bunch of complexities
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554
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When it comes to your
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555
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It gives you a bunch of frameworks
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556
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557
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So go check it out yourself.
558
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I urge you to go listen to, iDigress
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559
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578
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I mean, well, and you get a lot of
practice with your, your four daughters,
579
00:28:37,875 --> 00:28:42,695
of course, and, I'm super fascinated
with like, cause storytelling in
580
00:28:42,695 --> 00:28:46,895
general, ironically, the episode I
recorded the other day was all about
581
00:28:46,895 --> 00:28:52,225
storytelling and you know, it's geared
towards basically professionals, you
582
00:28:52,225 --> 00:28:55,205
know, like, Hey, tell a story so you
can connect with someone, you kind of
583
00:28:55,215 --> 00:28:58,985
projecting what your, your background
was and then connecting that way.
584
00:28:59,065 --> 00:29:02,345
And of course could be used
for sales, marketing, whatever,
585
00:29:02,365 --> 00:29:03,395
connecting in general.
586
00:29:03,875 --> 00:29:07,455
But with kids, like it's
a whole different flavor.
587
00:29:07,535 --> 00:29:12,390
Um, I don't know, like, could you walk me
through how you think about these things?
588
00:29:12,420 --> 00:29:15,980
Maybe the formula, I don't know if
there's any secret sauce behind it or if
589
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:22,890
It's, um, secret sauce, to be honest,
it's, I have a different brain and for
590
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:27,430
me, it's one of these things where,
like, initially when I was telling
591
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:31,720
stories, I started recording a couple
on my phone just so if I wasn't around
592
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,620
or something, my wife had something that
she could chuck on for the kids easy.
593
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,900
And it was just strange because I
never thought about it, but all of
594
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:40,300
a sudden I looked at the recordings.
595
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:42,760
I'm like, they are all
a similar timeframe.
596
00:29:42,820 --> 00:29:44,040
This is really strange.
597
00:29:44,420 --> 00:29:48,520
So without any like clocks or
anything, I was kind of just following
598
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,250
a pretty similar pattern in regards
to how long things were running.
599
00:29:51,250 --> 00:29:57,255
But for me, my storytelling process, um,
most people would probably pick up on it.
600
00:29:57,295 --> 00:30:01,345
I've got ADHD and I see it as a bit
of a superpower in regards to what
601
00:30:01,345 --> 00:30:03,665
I can do and all that kind of stuff.
602
00:30:03,695 --> 00:30:09,365
But when I'm sitting down to tell a story,
I literally press record and take the
603
00:30:09,365 --> 00:30:11,515
brakes off and just let the brain run.
604
00:30:11,595 --> 00:30:16,035
And I follow it and I just run with
it and just keep talking whatever
605
00:30:16,035 --> 00:30:18,735
I see, wherever it's going and
just keep rolling and rolling.
606
00:30:19,185 --> 00:30:20,805
And so it's something that.
607
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,000
I feel like over the time, I've spent
a lot of time talking to different
608
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,540
people, interacting with different
people, and you just get to learn
609
00:30:27,540 --> 00:30:29,900
and understand how people work.
610
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,400
And so that's all just kind of
ingrained in the back of my head.
611
00:30:33,410 --> 00:30:38,050
And I spend heaps of time like, working
with kids, hanging out with my own kids,
612
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:42,160
being fun, being silly, learning what
works, seeing the reactions on people's
613
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,860
faces, that it's all just in there.
614
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,200
So as you go on, you're rolling and
just watching this picture kind of
615
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,590
develop in your head and just narrating
what you see and you get to the end
616
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:53,740
of it and go, cool, that was fun.
617
00:30:53,810 --> 00:30:54,180
So
618
00:30:54,962 --> 00:30:55,822
That's awesome, man.
619
00:30:55,822 --> 00:30:58,662
It's almost like, yeah, you're,
I like, well, you said you
620
00:30:58,662 --> 00:30:59,852
took the brakes off, right?
621
00:30:59,892 --> 00:31:01,712
And you just let it pour.
622
00:31:01,712 --> 00:31:04,552
And obviously you have a unique
brain, so you're just leaning
623
00:31:04,552 --> 00:31:06,182
into your own self, right?
624
00:31:06,452 --> 00:31:07,242
that's the thing.
625
00:31:07,262 --> 00:31:12,372
And that's why it's so much fun
because it's using my brain exactly
626
00:31:12,372 --> 00:31:16,742
the way it's designed and the
way it works and seeing some real
627
00:31:16,782 --> 00:31:19,142
positive benefit coming out of that.
628
00:31:19,152 --> 00:31:22,592
Cause so often like in the electrical
business, it's all about trying to keep
629
00:31:22,592 --> 00:31:24,372
this under control, keep the brain.
630
00:31:24,727 --> 00:31:28,247
where it needs to be, making sure I'm
paying attention to the jobs, checking
631
00:31:28,247 --> 00:31:30,077
the right things, all that kind of stuff.
632
00:31:30,077 --> 00:31:31,477
And that takes work.
633
00:31:31,827 --> 00:31:34,517
Whereas when I sit down and
press record, it's just freedom.
634
00:31:34,517 --> 00:31:34,867
So
635
00:31:35,415 --> 00:31:36,785
Like, have you always had this out?
636
00:31:36,805 --> 00:31:39,475
Obviously you've had, you have
four daughters, but you haven't
637
00:31:39,475 --> 00:31:40,765
always had your daughters.
638
00:31:40,985 --> 00:31:42,895
And the church is also an outlet.
639
00:31:42,895 --> 00:31:45,125
It sounds like, but like, I don't know.
640
00:31:45,125 --> 00:31:47,815
Did, did you have like a different
side of you prior to that?
641
00:31:47,815 --> 00:31:49,835
Wasn't as free feeling,
642
00:31:50,188 --> 00:31:52,938
my dad, he's, he's fun.
643
00:31:53,018 --> 00:31:55,958
He was always super fun
as we were growing up.
644
00:31:56,018 --> 00:32:01,338
He was in Joiners that did some
ridiculous, silly things like.
645
00:32:01,783 --> 00:32:06,963
people jumping out of like balconies
of the center onto like crash mats
646
00:32:06,963 --> 00:32:10,453
and setting up trampolines and
orchestra pits and all kinds of things.
647
00:32:10,463 --> 00:32:16,473
So from a young age, we just, we always
had fun and we always did silly things.
648
00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:21,503
And I learned really early on that I
love making people laugh and I love
649
00:32:21,533 --> 00:32:23,363
making people feel bright and joyful.
650
00:32:23,423 --> 00:32:28,143
And so I think it's something that has
just consistently been a part of who
651
00:32:28,143 --> 00:32:33,953
I am doing silly things, all that kind
of stuff just to have fun and make sure
652
00:32:33,953 --> 00:32:36,213
that people are actually enjoying things.
653
00:32:36,223 --> 00:32:38,073
So I think it's just integral to who I am.
654
00:32:38,536 --> 00:32:40,084
Yeah.
655
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:40,890
it's perfect.
656
00:32:41,564 --> 00:32:41,934
Yep.
657
00:32:42,782 --> 00:32:43,714
Yep.
658
00:32:44,910 --> 00:32:48,140
It's not crazy because it's exactly
what we should all be doing.
659
00:32:48,150 --> 00:32:53,050
I mean, and it's, I don't know, sometimes
Do you have anything, like, if you were
660
00:32:53,050 --> 00:32:56,380
to talk to people who have maybe some
friction in their life, and obviously
661
00:32:56,380 --> 00:33:00,650
everyone's situations are different,
but Yeah, I don't know, like, anything,
662
00:33:00,650 --> 00:33:04,160
like, even the fun factor, because
I know there were phases in my life.
663
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,980
Stuff got hard, got difficult, stressful.
664
00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:07,050
Cool.
665
00:33:07,425 --> 00:33:09,985
I lost my dad on expect
like things like this.
666
00:33:09,985 --> 00:33:13,015
I'm like the world doesn't
seem that fun right now.
667
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,750
I've been there as well.
668
00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:20,610
Um, when all the COVID stuff
hit my business, we copped it
669
00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:24,880
from, Everything, my electrical
business, we got burnt by builders.
670
00:33:25,340 --> 00:33:29,132
We lost major contracts
through no fault of our own.
671
00:33:29,470 --> 00:33:31,580
I lost my mom over COVID as well.
672
00:33:32,132 --> 00:33:37,930
Um, and it was hard and there's
times when life isn't easy.
673
00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:41,120
Like there's, I see life
as it's up and down.
674
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:44,050
And if you expect anything
else, you're kidding yourself.
675
00:33:44,110 --> 00:33:46,030
But the reality is.
676
00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:52,100
remaining present and in those moments
and giving yourself space and all
677
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:53,730
that kind of thing is super important.
678
00:33:54,170 --> 00:33:58,100
Um, and I've actually, I started
seeing a psychologist a little while
679
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:03,730
ago, um, because after mum passed
away and all this stuff was going
680
00:34:03,730 --> 00:34:08,660
on, I wasn't in a bad spot, but I
just Didn't feel that same self.
681
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,670
There was just something
that didn't quite feel right.
682
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,910
And so something that I'd often heard, and
it was something that had been floating
683
00:34:14,910 --> 00:34:17,570
around in the back of my head for a while
was everyone, like I've heard it a few
684
00:34:17,570 --> 00:34:21,080
times where people say you service your
car, why wouldn't you service your brain?
685
00:34:21,590 --> 00:34:26,280
And so sitting down with a
psychologist and talking through a
686
00:34:26,350 --> 00:34:28,420
few different bits and pieces and.
687
00:34:28,895 --> 00:34:33,415
just realigning where I was at and
what was going on in my head and
688
00:34:33,415 --> 00:34:37,205
learning to give myself some grace
when I failed or didn't quite make
689
00:34:37,205 --> 00:34:41,025
the expectations I had for myself was
super important in restoring that joy.
690
00:34:41,405 --> 00:34:47,515
Um, so I've become quite a believer that
everyone should be checking in and just
691
00:34:47,581 --> 00:34:51,405
kind of learning where their brain's
at, because you, you often don't know a
692
00:34:51,405 --> 00:34:52,915
lot of the stuff that you're thinking.
693
00:34:53,340 --> 00:34:56,070
And a lot of the staff that might
be holding you back or stopping
694
00:34:56,070 --> 00:34:58,100
you from being able to excel.
695
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:02,090
Um, and in that as well, something at
the moment, which I just feel super
696
00:35:02,090 --> 00:35:05,460
challenged with, and I've got to
speak at a couple of schools over the
697
00:35:05,460 --> 00:35:09,920
last little bit, primary schools and
secondary schools and that sort of thing.
698
00:35:10,770 --> 00:35:13,570
And a big thing that I've been
really encouraging kids to do.
699
00:35:14,340 --> 00:35:20,230
is to start to get to know who they are
intrinsically, not the airy fairy, like
700
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,500
know yourself, who are you, all this
kind of stuff that can get a little
701
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:25,730
bit fluffy, but like, who are you?
702
00:35:25,780 --> 00:35:27,360
Are you a creative person?
703
00:35:27,390 --> 00:35:29,460
Are you a technically minded person?
704
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,130
How does that kind of work?
705
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:36,440
And then encouraging them to
explore what it looks like to use
706
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,470
who you are to work, to serve, to
interact, all that kind of stuff.
707
00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:48,560
Because I think when you can create
a lifestyle that's in line with the
708
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,330
person that you are at your core,
that's when you find real great joy
709
00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:56,760
in your work, in what you're doing,
and all those kinds of other things.
710
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:56,780
So.
711
00:35:57,605 --> 00:36:00,625
I think there's a little bit of,
yeah, cause everyone's different.
712
00:36:00,655 --> 00:36:04,715
And a question which I've learned
to absolutely love, it's something
713
00:36:04,745 --> 00:36:07,045
that, cause I like do youth work.
714
00:36:07,045 --> 00:36:08,475
I hang out with a lot of different people.
715
00:36:08,535 --> 00:36:13,355
I've started asking people this
question and it is awesome, is
716
00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:17,195
I ask them to describe what it
looks like for them to think.
717
00:36:17,985 --> 00:36:23,215
And you get an unbelievable insight
into a person when you say, Hey, what
718
00:36:23,455 --> 00:36:24,995
does it look like for you to think?
719
00:36:25,535 --> 00:36:27,695
Because you get people
who think in checklists.
720
00:36:27,705 --> 00:36:31,335
You get people who think in, I had
a guy who said, my brain's a bit
721
00:36:31,335 --> 00:36:34,895
like an Excel spreadsheet, except
when I look at a cell, it starts
722
00:36:34,895 --> 00:36:37,385
referencing cells on other pages.
723
00:36:37,405 --> 00:36:39,655
And so I'm going through
all that information.
724
00:36:40,015 --> 00:36:45,555
I have a really good friend who has
autism and I was like, Hey, tell me,
725
00:36:45,565 --> 00:36:47,055
what does it look like for you to think?
726
00:36:47,055 --> 00:36:51,225
And he's telling me about how he, when
someone's talking to him, he has the
727
00:36:51,225 --> 00:36:56,315
information come in from them, but he
almost rolls dice in his head to try and
728
00:36:56,315 --> 00:37:00,415
find information in his own brain that
relates to what they're talking about.
729
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,980
And then the next time I was
chatting with him, I saw him look
730
00:37:02,990 --> 00:37:05,940
up into the corner of the sky and
I'm like, he's rolling the dice.
731
00:37:05,970 --> 00:37:09,700
He's finding the information and it just
gives you such a better insight into
732
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:14,530
people and for me, myself, thinking about
that and thinking about what it looks like
733
00:37:14,530 --> 00:37:18,340
to think really helps because in those
times when you're overwhelmed, like for
734
00:37:18,478 --> 00:37:23,120
me, it scares people sometimes when I
tell them what my brain works like, but.
735
00:37:23,490 --> 00:37:27,440
It's me in the middle and there's just
stuff coming from every single direction.
736
00:37:27,820 --> 00:37:30,380
And so I'm trying to grab onto one thing.
737
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:33,090
And while I'm holding onto that
piece of information, everything
738
00:37:33,090 --> 00:37:35,790
else is like punching me in the
face, trying to grab my attention.
739
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:38,690
And if you push one of those
things away, another five things
740
00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:40,270
try to squeeze into that spot.
741
00:37:40,660 --> 00:37:44,420
And so for me, in those times
when I'm massively overwhelmed, I
742
00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:47,810
can go, Hey, I know that all this
stuff is going to keep coming.
743
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:48,800
And it's okay.
744
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,940
I'm just going to try and focus on this
one thing that I need to focus on, or
745
00:37:52,970 --> 00:37:55,800
I need to put in a strategy now because
there's too many things happening.
746
00:37:56,203 --> 00:37:57,940
I'll pull out, I've got
a remarkable tablet.
747
00:37:57,970 --> 00:38:01,590
I'll pull that out and I will just
write and write and write whatever is
748
00:38:01,590 --> 00:38:05,630
in my head and just understanding the
way my brain works and the way I think
749
00:38:05,980 --> 00:38:09,770
is really helpful for those moments
when you do feel overwhelmed, out of
750
00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:11,250
control, all those sorts of things.
751
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:11,860
It's so cool.
752
00:38:12,365 --> 00:38:14,275
Dude, that's an, it's so good.
753
00:38:14,275 --> 00:38:15,225
Yeah, I wrote it down.
754
00:38:15,225 --> 00:38:15,335
Yeah.
755
00:38:15,385 --> 00:38:18,115
Describe what it looks
like for you to think.
756
00:38:18,475 --> 00:38:21,555
Just, I mean, a journal
prompt right there, you know,
757
00:38:21,555 --> 00:38:22,995
or, or walking meditation.
758
00:38:22,995 --> 00:38:23,695
Just talk it out.
759
00:38:23,695 --> 00:38:24,665
Whatever it is like,
760
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:27,920
And it helps interacting
with other people as well.
761
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,500
Like, asking your kids or your friends
what it looks like for them to think
762
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,630
can give you such an insight into
different moments where you might
763
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,490
have this awkward social moment,
but understanding how they think can
764
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:44,380
actually answer a lot of those questions.
765
00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:45,240
It's so cool.
766
00:38:45,775 --> 00:38:46,405
That's a good point.
767
00:38:46,425 --> 00:38:50,005
Like if there is this quote unquote
awkward silence, like maybe you said
768
00:38:50,005 --> 00:38:54,325
something and there's a gap in time,
you know, it might feel weird, but
769
00:38:54,335 --> 00:38:59,115
like there's thinking happening most
likely, you know, and yeah, there's
770
00:38:59,115 --> 00:39:02,665
a book I'm rereading for like the
second time, but I feel like I should
771
00:39:02,665 --> 00:39:07,035
reread it like a hundred times, uh,
untethered soul by Michael Singer.
772
00:39:07,195 --> 00:39:08,455
Have you, have you read that one?
773
00:39:08,570 --> 00:39:11,770
Nah, I, uh, I can't read books.
774
00:39:11,790 --> 00:39:12,550
It's not my thing.
775
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:15,770
I'll listen to books, but put a book in
front of me to read, not going to happen.
776
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:16,570
Cool.
777
00:39:16,905 --> 00:39:19,465
how I'm technically doing
it is I'm having a reader.
778
00:39:19,465 --> 00:39:20,875
It's called 11 labs reader.
779
00:39:20,905 --> 00:39:24,995
I think he'd like it, but, uh, you can
take any kind of text and basically
780
00:39:24,995 --> 00:39:28,395
it has an AI voice, or you can have
a celebrity even read it to you.
781
00:39:28,475 --> 00:39:30,075
But like, yeah, I have it.
782
00:39:30,105 --> 00:39:30,935
I have it read to me.
783
00:39:31,695 --> 00:39:32,245
So good.
784
00:39:32,570 --> 00:39:32,890
Yeah.
785
00:39:33,230 --> 00:39:36,940
But what, what it basically, there's
something in there is like, yeah,
786
00:39:36,940 --> 00:39:40,800
we should all have this time where
we're watching the voice inside of us.
787
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,100
Like the brain, it's a supercomputer,
but we're not necessarily that brain.
788
00:39:45,110 --> 00:39:46,800
That's just a part of our body.
789
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,700
But if you listen to it, then you
start to understand what it's doing.
790
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:54,570
And a lot of it, it's just crazy talk,
but at the same time, it's like, yeah,
791
00:39:54,570 --> 00:39:58,190
if you, if you know what's happening,
but I like the way that you say it,
792
00:39:58,190 --> 00:39:59,380
it's like describe how it actually.
793
00:39:59,745 --> 00:40:01,745
Like how it looks to them.
794
00:40:01,765 --> 00:40:03,595
So it's almost like, what's the system?
795
00:40:03,605 --> 00:40:05,695
Like, what are the patterns
that you're catching?
796
00:40:06,255 --> 00:40:09,315
Cause that's probably not going to
change for the rest of your life.
797
00:40:09,345 --> 00:40:10,305
I would imagine.
798
00:40:10,995 --> 00:40:15,675
but giving yourself an awareness of
it, even like asking people to describe
799
00:40:15,675 --> 00:40:19,785
it, seeing the change in them once
they've described what it looks like.
800
00:40:20,175 --> 00:40:21,055
It's so cool.
801
00:40:21,095 --> 00:40:22,165
I love that question.
802
00:40:22,165 --> 00:40:22,835
It's just fun.
803
00:40:23,415 --> 00:40:24,085
That's good.
804
00:40:24,115 --> 00:40:25,055
And it's empathetic.
805
00:40:25,055 --> 00:40:27,475
Like, or you can have more
empathy for people around you.
806
00:40:27,715 --> 00:40:28,055
Yeah.
807
00:40:28,055 --> 00:40:29,145
Yeah,
808
00:40:29,315 --> 00:40:30,215
dude, yeah.
809
00:40:31,225 --> 00:40:32,415
What's the reaction with kids?
810
00:40:32,415 --> 00:40:35,945
Cause that is a hundred percent what I'm
going to take to McKenna and just like.
811
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:37,750
In a fun way, of course,
812
00:40:38,125 --> 00:40:38,705
yeah, yeah.
813
00:40:39,685 --> 00:40:44,565
Well, I think for them, it's just because
they haven't overthought a lot of things.
814
00:40:44,735 --> 00:40:46,795
Often they just, Oh, it's like this.
815
00:40:47,185 --> 00:40:48,035
And they just spit it out.
816
00:40:48,035 --> 00:40:50,995
Like I had, um, one of my nephews,
I said to him, I said, what does
817
00:40:50,995 --> 00:40:51,935
it look like for you to think?
818
00:40:51,935 --> 00:40:53,845
He's like, Oh, just see pictures.
819
00:40:53,845 --> 00:40:57,325
And so sometimes it takes me a
little bit longer to respond.
820
00:40:57,325 --> 00:40:59,575
Cause I've got to have a better
look at the picture in my head.
821
00:41:00,045 --> 00:41:02,315
And I was like, Oh, this is so cool.
822
00:41:02,325 --> 00:41:06,155
Or I asked my daughter and she
was like, it feels quite swirly.
823
00:41:06,495 --> 00:41:08,005
There's a lot of things swirling around.
824
00:41:08,005 --> 00:41:10,015
I'm like, Oh, you're
going to turn out like me,
825
00:41:10,290 --> 00:41:10,480
Yeah.
826
00:41:11,585 --> 00:41:13,185
but, um, it's just fun.
827
00:41:13,195 --> 00:41:17,315
And it just gives you insight into your
own kids, just because like parenting
828
00:41:17,315 --> 00:41:18,745
is tricky at the best of times.
829
00:41:18,745 --> 00:41:22,125
Trying to understand what's going
on in a kid's head can be so tricky.
830
00:41:22,445 --> 00:41:26,935
And so I have a big belief that you
just need to spend time learning
831
00:41:26,945 --> 00:41:28,225
and getting to know your kids.
832
00:41:28,625 --> 00:41:33,125
Because every kid is different, every
kid is astronomically different.
833
00:41:33,155 --> 00:41:39,015
And so what one kid's needs would be
absolutely poorly helpful for another
834
00:41:39,015 --> 00:41:40,665
kid and would actually do damage.
835
00:41:40,695 --> 00:41:44,635
And so it's about getting to know
your own kids, getting to know the
836
00:41:44,645 --> 00:41:47,645
kids that you're around, learning
from the mistakes that you make.
837
00:41:47,665 --> 00:41:51,425
But yeah, the more time you get to
spend with your kids, learning how they
838
00:41:51,425 --> 00:41:53,115
work, learning what makes them tick.
839
00:41:53,620 --> 00:41:56,040
The more joy that you kind of
have in that family experience.
840
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,540
And so, yeah, that's one of the
things we're really passionate about.
841
00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:03,070
Well, and I love that you have that
passion and I mean through just it wasn't
842
00:42:03,070 --> 00:42:06,670
even a lot of research It's obvious,
you know that you have that that's why
843
00:42:06,670 --> 00:42:11,710
you even do this show, but You know the
whole reframe I've had with this podcast
844
00:42:11,710 --> 00:42:15,370
over the years is like I want to show
people you can actually create a Great
845
00:42:15,370 --> 00:42:19,760
life you can have business or businesses,
but like it doesn't have to feel like
846
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,170
work It could be fun and bring joy and
you can create a great life through the
847
00:42:23,170 --> 00:42:25,675
whole process But like, don't do a solo.
848
00:42:25,675 --> 00:42:28,765
Also do it with your family if you have
one, you know, or friends, whatever it is.
849
00:42:29,425 --> 00:42:31,865
But like, that's what it sounds
like keeps you going, man.
850
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,610
Yeah.
851
00:42:32,610 --> 00:42:35,000
And I'm a little bit different
in a lot of respects.
852
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:38,710
I think one of the big things
for me that I've learned is money
853
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:41,570
is not a driver for me at all.
854
00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:43,900
Um, money is a means to an end.
855
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,970
And so if I'm paying bills and
doing all that kind of stuff, then.
856
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:48,950
I'm happy.
857
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:54,060
So it's not something that I, I feel the
drive to earn more, make more anything.
858
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:56,590
I find the people side of
things so much more interesting
859
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,580
and so much more important.
860
00:42:58,590 --> 00:43:03,670
So for me, I will often make poor
financial decisions, but for the
861
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:08,330
people side of things, but I think it's
one of those things of understanding
862
00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:11,880
what is achievable and what is okay.
863
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,610
Like I was really blessed when
I finished school, I got to have
864
00:43:15,610 --> 00:43:17,010
some incredible experiences.
865
00:43:17,020 --> 00:43:18,790
There was a guy who was
quite a visionary who.
866
00:43:19,210 --> 00:43:22,430
He was like, Hey, I feel like
there's a few young people here
867
00:43:22,430 --> 00:43:23,820
that just need some life experience.
868
00:43:23,860 --> 00:43:29,310
And so he took us and we lived in the
city and hung out with homeless people
869
00:43:29,310 --> 00:43:33,110
each night, just listening to them and
talking to them and hearing their stories.
870
00:43:33,110 --> 00:43:35,520
And we went to live it.
871
00:43:35,550 --> 00:43:38,800
Well, we went to stay in Canberra, which
is where parliament is in Australia.
872
00:43:39,170 --> 00:43:43,440
And we hung out with politicians for
a week and just spent time getting
873
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,830
to know them, understanding how they
tick, what goes on in their head.
874
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:50,620
all that kind of backend stuff that
you don't see from like the stuff
875
00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:55,140
that's in the, in the, um, actual
parliament house kind of thing.
876
00:43:55,150 --> 00:43:57,560
And then they took us to
Papua New Guinea as well.
877
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,405
And we hiked Kokoda and then lived
in a village that, Most of the people
878
00:44:02,405 --> 00:44:06,165
there had never seen white people
before, and it really just reset
879
00:44:06,165 --> 00:44:07,885
your perspectives on so many things.
880
00:44:08,345 --> 00:44:12,975
It reset my perspectives on how
people can end up in a situation.
881
00:44:13,085 --> 00:44:15,135
It's not as simple as everyone thinks.
882
00:44:15,495 --> 00:44:20,135
It resets your perspective of those
in power and thinking how much they
883
00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:23,265
do or don't have it all together
and realizing that they're just
884
00:44:23,265 --> 00:44:24,645
people, just like anyone else.
885
00:44:25,090 --> 00:44:29,540
And it really, really set my perspective
on the importance of things because
886
00:44:29,860 --> 00:44:33,680
you're hanging out in this community
where they have literally nothing and
887
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,000
they're handing you the little thing
that they do have because they care more
888
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,980
about people than things and they're
twice as happy as anyone back home.
889
00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:44,730
You're going, okay, cool.
890
00:44:44,740 --> 00:44:47,680
How do I, how do I make
all this line up with.
891
00:44:48,175 --> 00:44:49,205
how I see the world.
892
00:44:49,465 --> 00:44:54,085
And so for me, it's learning that,
Hey, it's, it's fine to earn.
893
00:44:54,085 --> 00:44:54,895
It's fine to work.
894
00:44:54,895 --> 00:44:58,435
It's kind of fine to do all these
things, but if that's my focus, I'm
895
00:44:58,435 --> 00:45:00,175
not going to be happy in who I am.
896
00:45:00,535 --> 00:45:03,725
So I need to make sure that my focus
is always on the important things.
897
00:45:03,735 --> 00:45:05,105
And if the other things come, then great.
898
00:45:05,175 --> 00:45:06,275
I've got nothing against it.
899
00:45:06,295 --> 00:45:07,435
It's, it's fantastic.
900
00:45:07,475 --> 00:45:09,325
Like I feel like hard
work should be rewarded.
901
00:45:09,335 --> 00:45:12,875
And a lot of these people will be
putting in hard work, but making
902
00:45:12,875 --> 00:45:16,635
sure that my focus is still on
my family, my relationships.
903
00:45:17,545 --> 00:45:22,425
Now at this stage, creating joy and fun
and yeah, having some impact for some
904
00:45:22,425 --> 00:45:24,315
other people, uh, keeps things straight.
905
00:45:24,315 --> 00:45:24,665
So
906
00:45:25,165 --> 00:45:26,195
That's awesome, man.
907
00:45:26,245 --> 00:45:26,555
Yeah.
908
00:45:26,555 --> 00:45:27,855
And that's the, a big thing.
909
00:45:27,855 --> 00:45:31,075
So I got to give my thanks to, to
Heather, my wife that you, that you met
910
00:45:31,075 --> 00:45:36,005
earlier is she, she's just like, what's,
what's enough, like most entrepreneurs
911
00:45:36,015 --> 00:45:40,215
when you have so much coming at you
and I'm sure you'll see it even more.
912
00:45:40,215 --> 00:45:45,105
So, you know, the more popular the
show gets is like more demands,
913
00:45:45,105 --> 00:45:46,845
more, more of me is popping up.
914
00:45:46,845 --> 00:45:51,255
So, um, you know, but like, what's
enough in general that these
915
00:45:51,255 --> 00:45:52,645
commitments can lead to and.
916
00:45:53,215 --> 00:45:56,835
Could drive you away from the whole core
thing that you started from the beginning.
917
00:45:57,205 --> 00:46:00,375
And that's like what you said, the
importance of having other people around
918
00:46:00,375 --> 00:46:04,295
you is so important because sometimes
when you're caught in a moment, You
919
00:46:04,295 --> 00:46:07,955
can lose sight of the big picture
and so having someone around you who
920
00:46:07,965 --> 00:46:12,165
goes, Hey, is this where you were
saying that you wanted to be going?
921
00:46:12,165 --> 00:46:13,595
You're like, Ooh, is it?
922
00:46:14,215 --> 00:46:14,945
I don't think so.
923
00:46:14,955 --> 00:46:16,805
We might need to do a bit of a reset here.
924
00:46:17,215 --> 00:46:18,395
It's really important.
925
00:46:18,435 --> 00:46:21,635
And like my wife, she's Unbelievable.
926
00:46:21,685 --> 00:46:24,105
I am, she's way too good for me.
927
00:46:24,115 --> 00:46:27,575
Hence why I had to ask her the
question quick before she realized.
928
00:46:27,985 --> 00:46:29,565
But, um, she's been just,
929
00:46:29,635 --> 00:46:30,095
by the way.
930
00:46:30,105 --> 00:46:30,605
I would say the same.
931
00:46:30,605 --> 00:46:34,860
Yeah.
932
00:46:35,055 --> 00:46:38,515
who is on board, who is supportive,
who is encouraging, and who
933
00:46:38,515 --> 00:46:40,925
you do this life together with.
934
00:46:41,435 --> 00:46:45,925
So even in moments where it might be
me up the front of something and then
935
00:46:45,985 --> 00:46:47,705
it would look like it's by myself.
936
00:46:48,210 --> 00:46:50,210
It feels like nothing but family.
937
00:46:50,260 --> 00:46:51,250
I've got my wife with me.
938
00:46:51,250 --> 00:46:52,130
I've got my kids with me.
939
00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:55,510
Even if they're not physically present,
they're just integral to so many of
940
00:46:55,610 --> 00:46:57,290
the important moments of everything.
941
00:46:57,670 --> 00:47:01,860
I just think that, hey, having a crew
around you who loves you, cares for
942
00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:07,810
you, and has the same outlook and
the same values is super important.
943
00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:11,600
Don't have to think the same, but you
need to be aligned on the same values.
944
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,820
It's, it's fantastic.
945
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:19,370
Yeah, that's, um, I'm gonna, I'm texting
my wife right now to send my, uh, McKenna,
946
00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:20,940
my daughter back in to say bye bye.
947
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:23,870
But, uh, um, give her a heads up.
948
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:24,500
But you're right.
949
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,905
I mean, it's the, and that's where for
a lot of the, you know, Over my, my
950
00:47:29,105 --> 00:47:32,255
years of doing business, like I would
go to an office, travel back and then
951
00:47:32,255 --> 00:47:37,055
I would, I always had this pole, like I
needed to, I want to come back to, yeah.
952
00:47:37,115 --> 00:47:38,685
I work out of my house.
953
00:47:38,725 --> 00:47:42,625
Luckily I was able to spin this
around, you know, quickly today on a
954
00:47:42,810 --> 00:47:42,840
cool.
955
00:47:43,025 --> 00:47:44,915
I'm like, totally, we can make this work.
956
00:47:44,915 --> 00:47:48,055
And, um, oh, can it's here
that, that didn't take long.
957
00:47:48,105 --> 00:47:49,325
McKenna, we're going to wrap up.
958
00:47:49,415 --> 00:47:53,115
Is there, is there any question or
maybe a voice or a character you
959
00:47:53,115 --> 00:47:54,895
want to ask about or maybe here?
960
00:47:55,405 --> 00:47:59,055
Yeah, leave it there.
961
00:47:59,055 --> 00:47:59,305
How about
962
00:47:59,535 --> 00:48:00,995
who's your favorite character?
963
00:48:01,486 --> 00:48:02,998
Pim
964
00:48:03,435 --> 00:48:04,075
You like Pim Pim?
965
00:48:04,085 --> 00:48:05,735
Would you like to hear the Pim Pim voice?
966
00:48:06,020 --> 00:48:07,532
Winkle.
967
00:48:07,645 --> 00:48:08,165
Alright.
968
00:48:08,375 --> 00:48:09,425
Hello, McKenna!
969
00:48:09,445 --> 00:48:10,525
It is me, the Pim Pim!
970
00:48:10,525 --> 00:48:12,515
I am so happy to see you today!
971
00:48:12,615 --> 00:48:17,005
Because I always wondered what you looked
like after I heard your amazing song!
972
00:48:17,005 --> 00:48:17,905
It was so much fun!
973
00:48:17,905 --> 00:48:19,045
You taught me so much!
974
00:48:19,085 --> 00:48:22,180
And now, I get to be very, very
silly because You know what?
975
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:26,400
I got control of the computer, and I
have been playing with the AI music, and
976
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,490
I have made lots of silly, silly songs.
977
00:48:28,690 --> 00:48:32,520
They are all about Teddy Winkle, and how
Pim Pim is far better than Teddy Winkle.
978
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,410
Hey, Pim Pim!
979
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,600
You are not better than me!
980
00:48:34,770 --> 00:48:35,450
I'm better than you!
981
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,760
No, P No, no, no.
982
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:37,470
I am the best.
983
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,135
Everybody knows, and everybody
says it on all the comments.
984
00:48:40,135 --> 00:48:41,610
Pim Pim is the best!
985
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:42,810
No, you're not!
986
00:48:42,860 --> 00:48:44,290
Anyway, I Hi, McKenna!
987
00:48:44,290 --> 00:48:45,460
It's me, Teddy Winkle!
988
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,600
I just wanted to say hi.
989
00:48:46,650 --> 00:48:48,310
I hope you have a fantastic day!
990
00:48:48,370 --> 00:48:49,170
Okay, see you later!
991
00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:49,190
Bye!
992
00:48:57,305 --> 00:48:57,775
man.
993
00:48:58,375 --> 00:48:59,195
See ya later.
994
00:48:59,575 --> 00:49:00,285
That was great.
995
00:49:00,325 --> 00:49:05,592
I also made a song with them and
A spaceship and we're going to
996
00:49:05,592 --> 00:49:07,913
outer space on my birthday song.
997
00:49:07,913 --> 00:49:08,687
He heard
998
00:49:08,735 --> 00:49:10,635
Ooh, you might see beeper.
999
00:49:11,009 --> 00:49:11,396
song.
1000
00:49:11,396 --> 00:49:13,717
That's when I shared with him.
1001
00:49:13,717 --> 00:49:14,491
Maybe I'll
1002
00:49:14,735 --> 00:49:15,855
Yeah, it was so
1003
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:17,540
part of this podcast.
1004
00:49:18,325 --> 00:49:18,745
good.
1005
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:20,050
Alright.
1006
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:21,270
Say bye bye.
1007
00:49:22,010 --> 00:49:22,310
Bye bye.
1008
00:49:22,310 --> 00:49:22,990
Thank you Sam.
1009
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:23,510
You rock.
1010
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,050
Keep it up.
1011
00:49:25,725 --> 00:49:26,415
See ya later.
1012
00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:27,960
Watch your foot there.
1013
00:49:28,030 --> 00:49:28,420
There you go.
1014
00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:30,490
Bye bye.
1015
00:49:30,490 --> 00:49:30,920
So.
1016
00:49:31,615 --> 00:49:32,845
Yeah, we'll wrap it up there.
1017
00:49:32,845 --> 00:49:33,345
Thank you.
1018
00:49:33,345 --> 00:49:33,515
That
1019
00:49:33,655 --> 00:49:34,065
Easy.
1020
00:49:35,235 --> 00:49:35,755
I'll be right out.
1021
00:49:36,075 --> 00:49:36,865
I know it's dinner time.
1022
00:49:38,335 --> 00:49:38,875
That was good.
1023
00:49:39,005 --> 00:49:39,465
Happy.
1024
00:49:42,085 --> 00:49:44,225
All right, yeah, so we'll
officially wrap her up.
1025
00:49:45,725 --> 00:49:51,305
Just to, what's, what's something that
you're, uh, like, what's a crazy idea
1026
00:49:51,305 --> 00:49:54,795
or something that you're in your, and
yeah, I know you have a lot of them,
1027
00:49:54,795 --> 00:49:58,445
but like, well, just something that's
like, what's the thing right now
1028
00:49:58,445 --> 00:49:59,815
that's like keeping you up at night?
1029
00:50:00,115 --> 00:50:04,495
Oh mate, there's um, there's a couple,
there's a weird little idea that I've
1030
00:50:04,495 --> 00:50:09,565
got at the moment, which is, um, I was
sitting the other day and then all of a
1031
00:50:09,565 --> 00:50:11,140
sudden I just saw this thing in my head.
1032
00:50:11,530 --> 00:50:19,740
which was a really big live show with
voices, with songs, with stories,
1033
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,760
with all kinds of stuff happening.
1034
00:50:21,790 --> 00:50:26,050
And so at the moment there's a,
there's a lot of just random notes and
1035
00:50:26,050 --> 00:50:27,410
things that are getting jotted down.
1036
00:50:27,410 --> 00:50:30,100
There's song lyrics,
there's all kinds of stuff.
1037
00:50:30,190 --> 00:50:36,100
But, um, in that my, my long term,
we hold it with open hands, but it's
1038
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:39,020
always fun to think of a big idea of
where you'd love this thing to end.
1039
00:50:39,485 --> 00:50:44,855
Um, but I had this idea of my
electrical company being involved on
1040
00:50:44,855 --> 00:50:49,285
an impact level, not on an operational
level, working my way out of that
1041
00:50:49,285 --> 00:50:54,415
one and doing a lot of work in
this silly stories, creative space.
1042
00:50:54,780 --> 00:51:00,220
Um, but in that, I have a real heart for
kids and young people, and I would love
1043
00:51:00,220 --> 00:51:06,750
to work for our church or another mission
organization kind of thing, um, but my
1044
00:51:06,750 --> 00:51:08,520
dream is for that to be self funded.
1045
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,860
So, you're not becoming a burden on
anyone around, but you've created a,
1046
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:18,160
well, you've had help to create a space
where you can fund yourself to be able
1047
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,310
to do some really positive impact stuff.
1048
00:51:20,775 --> 00:51:23,585
and yeah, be able to do it self funded.
1049
00:51:23,585 --> 00:51:25,435
So that's, that's my hands open.
1050
00:51:25,645 --> 00:51:27,965
I'd love to end up here
one day, but who knows?
1051
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:32,720
It'll happen, man, in probably
the most interesting way possible.
1052
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:33,940
Of course it will, you know.
1053
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,280
And I know the way that you let in
things in your brain and in the world
1054
00:51:38,290 --> 00:51:40,320
now, so it's just bound to happen.
1055
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,790
It's just a matter of when and how.
1056
00:51:41,815 --> 00:51:42,395
it's good fun.
1057
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,690
Dude, well, I appreciate you so very much.
1058
00:51:46,610 --> 00:51:48,010
Keep doing what you're doing.
1059
00:51:48,010 --> 00:51:51,400
And I know there's, there's a lot
more headed your way and uh, I know
1060
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,370
she'll be even more obsessed now, so
1061
00:51:53,575 --> 00:51:54,845
Hey, thanks so much, mate.
1062
00:51:54,845 --> 00:51:55,735
Really appreciate it.
1063
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:56,630
of course.