[00:03] Karianne: Welcome to Grounding Elevation, the podcast for open minds and open hearts to dig a little deeper and ascend a little higher on a quest to tap into our limitless potential mind, body and soul. I'm Carrie Ann Jean. Mom, wife, daughter, sister, artist, writer, learner, rebel, entrepreneur, psychology enthusiast. I have a deep passion for self improvement that has sent me down many roads of growth and learning and unlearning. I believe that God, universe, whatever you call the highest power, the source from where we all have come from, it speaks and it all but yelled at me to do this podcast. This is my leap of faith in spite of my insecurities and self doubt and humanness. So here we go. Join us weekly as we embark together on a Grounding Elevation. Welcome back. Thank you so much for being here and listening with us. Last week we had part two with my girl Georgia talking about her incredible journey through chronic illness. And today we are going to be talking about her healing journey. This is the new chapter, right? This was chapter, chapter two on this journey for her, much more uplifting. We're going to talk about what she was able to find with an alternative medicine healing clinic here in the United States and kind of what was addressed, what therapies she did that turned her life completely around. It took some time, definitely a long time. It definitely took some time. It was not an overnight cure all. Oh my gosh, she woke up the next day, everything was better. It was also challenging, but just in a different way. So you wake up the next day, you find this alternative clinic from our spiritual friend Nan on the other side. And what kind of happened after that? You let your mom know, you let your parents know.
[02:13] Georgia: So I had a group chat with my parents and my siblings and I think I just put the link to that. I was like, check this out, I need to go. And then my brother was there, like shortly after and he's like, we gotta get you there. Like, we've got nothing to lose and everything to gain. And then my sister was, you know, shortly after saying the same thing. It took a bit longer to convince mum and dad just for the sole purpose of we didn't know, like, we didn't know the place, we didn't know anyone in America. Like, it was a lot like you.
[02:50] Karianne: Were traveling to another country for.
[02:53] Georgia: Also, like how I was so sick. I was at my absolute lowest, right?
[02:58] Karianne: How are you even going to get there?
[02:59] Georgia: How do I get there? How do I survive?
[03:01] Karianne: Handling travel is hard when you're healthy.
[03:04] Georgia: And it's a very long travel. Like travel time to Australia. So it was a lot. But three weeks later, I think it was, we left, my mum and I and we came over and did three weeks of treatment. That's where I met my doctor, Dr. Hart, and we just focused on treating, like finding the root causes to what was happening and giving my body what it needs in order to heal itself. Because your body has this incredible ability to heal if it gets.
[03:38] Karianne: It wants to heal.
[03:39] Georgia: Yeah, absolutely. So give the body what it needs and like focus on detox and help the lymphatic system to get things moving and give it the supplements that it's needing to heal and incredible things can happen. Like it's.
[03:56] Karianne: So you came out here for three week intensive doing like, alternative therapies. What did treatment look like for you? Like, what did, like what was done? What, what did you do?
[04:09] Georgia: So there was just. Well, the things that we focused on was the Lyme disease, mould, heavy metals, parasites.
[04:18] Karianne: So you had. It was a lot of detoxing, a lot of detox. You had a lot of, like, built up.
[04:24] Georgia: Yeah. Focusing on getting, like toxins. Yeah, absolutely. So getting the detox pathways open so that your body can detox it out, that was a challenging thing for me because my body kind of struggles to detox even today with everything that I've done.
[04:40] Karianne: Okay. That's just like kind of innate.
[04:42] Georgia: Yeah. So it, my body yet just has the gene where it's. It struggles to detox and it's just a lot harder on mine than other people. So going slow so that you don't get the symptoms of a bad reaction from too much detox at once. And there was. I just focused a lot on like the emotional side of it because, I mean, emotions have a big impact on the overall health. And in terms of my healing, the emotional healing has been just as important as the physical because it's a package and it affects one, affects the other. So there was a lot there that we needed. I actually had to address my emotions for the first time. Yeah. Work through them and work through the trauma that I'd gone through. And there was a lot of trauma that had happened and occurred. So that was an important aspect of the healing journey. And just also realizing that I didn't get sick overnight. Like, it took me nine years of everyday body getting worse until I reached the lowest point. As much as I would have loved to click my fingers and be like, I'm cured, I've got my life back, that wasn't going to happen. I had to walk the journey, that path to get to my lowest. I had to walk. I had to turn around and walk back on that path. So it was like, it's a journey. And, yes, I started getting improvements, but it was also, there was moments where I, like, slipped backwards a bit. You know, even today, if I'm in mold, my body slips back. Like, my health slips back. So it's a constant working through that. But also, I had to get to the point where I think this was a big one for me, was I always just wanted my old life back. I just wanted to get those years back. There is absolutely nothing in this world that would give me back. Like, with the healing journey on top, where I was really sick, it was about 13, 14 years that I lost my life.
[07:00] Karianne: Right.
[07:00] Georgia: I can never get those. Those back.
[07:03] Karianne: You're not going to.
[07:04] Georgia: And I am not the person that I was when I was 15, when I got sick. I don't want to be the person that I was when I was 15, when I got sick. So it had to be that mind shift of, I don't want my old life back, but I want to get my life back so I can be the person that I am today, the person that my life experiences have turned me into. And I kind of see that as a blessing in that. I learned life experiences that most people don't learn until they're at the end of their life.
[07:40] Karianne: That's true. Yeah.
[07:41] Georgia: I learned them in my teenage and early 20 years. Like, I now have the rest of my life to enjoy those lessons. Yes. And to use them and to. Yeah. Have that experience and that life experience of these really tough life lessons that I wouldn't wish on anybody.
[08:02] Karianne: Right. Like, even just, like, face to face with death.
[08:05] Georgia: Yes.
[08:06] Karianne: Yeah.
[08:06] Georgia: Yeah. And, like, regret was a big one for me. So I remember when I was really sick, just actually, it was just not that many months before I had, like, the lowest night. I wrote down a list of everything in my life that I would never get to do again or never got to do at all. Because I let. I always had anxiety, and I always talked myself out of things, out of fear and anxiety. And it was this list of regret, of things that I always wanted to do or that I loved and didn't do.
[08:39] Karianne: Because you were scared.
[08:39] Georgia: Because of my fear. And I'm like, I'm going to die at 24, and I'm going to die never having done those things. And it was honestly one of the hardest things I ever went through, to.
[08:54] Karianne: Come face to face with that.
[08:55] Georgia: Yeah. Because I was, like, so much regret. And I made a promise to myself then that if I got a miracle and I got a second chance at life, next time I'm facing death, I'm not having that regret. I will be like, I'm doing the hard things, I'm doing the scary things because I want to experience those things. And it was also the other side of that was, if anything, and this was really pivotal for how I faced my healing journey, was if I got a chance to get that second chance, I was giving it absolutely everything I had, and I would be 100% dedicated to it. I was going to give it my absolute all because I didn't have another option.
[09:44] Karianne: To live almost a decade and have people tell you that there's nothing that you can do and that you're a victim essentially of your circumstance and there's nothing they can do, be completely out of control like that. I would imagine that you'd have a lot of pent up wanting to do something right? Like do anything to try to alleviate the pain that you were in for almost a decade. Yeah. So when someone comes along and goes, okay, it's going to be really hard, but this is how we're going to do it. I can imagine you'd be like, yes, please, let's go.
[10:29] Georgia: Yeah, absolutely.
[10:30] Karianne: And so was that like your experience? Is that how you felt when Dr. Hart comes in and he goes, okay, like, I can help you, I can help you.
[10:40] Georgia: Yeah.
[10:41] Karianne: I don't know exactly what's wrong, but I know enough to be able to deal with a lot of this root cause stuff. And you're gonna have to work really freaking hard. Are you ready? Were you like. Yes, things were ready before. I'm on Ben ready.
[11:00] Georgia: Yes. And I was willing to do absolutely anything.
[11:04] Karianne: So you go. And they're focusing on detox. What were the methods that were used for detoxing?
[11:09] Georgia: So that was just.
[11:10] Karianne: Was it like herbal? Was it like. So it was like supplements, lymphatic massage type stuff. Okay.
[11:16] Georgia: Yeah. It was just different therapies that they used pretty much to focus on that lymphatic system and allow.
[11:23] Karianne: So we're talking massage. We're talking. Do they do like lasers or.
[11:28] Georgia: They did other things.
[11:28] Karianne: Light therapy?
[11:30] Georgia: Yeah, there were different ones. I don't really know specifically what they do, but I just know, like, yeah, I was focusing on helping the body to detox and to get those detox pathways open, because that is.
[11:44] Karianne: So you were having to take some supplements to detox, hydrate. Like, was your nutrition part of their protocol?
[11:52] Georgia: So mine was different. In that I'd gone all those years without eating. So, like, starting there, it was like trying to eat again. So we kind of we went slow, but I was able to they were.
[12:08] Karianne: Kind of guiding you on, like, what not to incorporate and what to incorporate.
[12:13] Georgia: So for me personally, like, I have a dairy allergy, and I'm intolerant to gluten. And then was histamine at some point became a big thing for me. So I was cut out all histamine foods, which, spoiler alert, is all the good foods.
[12:29] Karianne: I know.
[12:30] Georgia: Especially chocolate.
[12:32] Karianne: Oh, my gosh. I know. Garlic too, right?
[12:35] Georgia: Yeah. Tomatoes.
[12:37] Karianne: Tomatoes. Like nightshades.
[12:38] Georgia: Yeah. So it was like avocado. I was obsessed with Italian food.
[12:41] Karianne: No, you can eat avocado, right?
[12:43] Georgia: No, that tasting. So it was like all the I got to eating again, and then it's like, oh, now I need to avoid all the great stuff. This isn't so fun. I really struggled.
[12:56] Karianne: But over time, you were able to start kind of incorporating some things back in. Just working with your body's sensitivities.
[13:04] Georgia: Yeah.
[13:05] Karianne: Getting inflammation down, detox. So that's like yeah. Lymphatic system, herbal remedies. What else was what other therapies were used?
[13:17] Georgia: Well, I know that when I came back home after that trip, I got an infrared sauna.
[13:23] Karianne: Okay.
[13:24] Georgia: I got what else did I get? I got a thing called a power plate. So it's like oh, the like is.
[13:31] Karianne: It it's like the vibration plate.
[13:33] Georgia: Yeah.
[13:33] Karianne: Okay. Okay.
[13:33] Georgia: So it moves. Cause that, like, gets yout get things moving around. I absolutely hated it. It was the one therapy I would cry doing it. I just hated it. I did it and I did did.
[13:50] Karianne: You hate it because it was uncomfortable for you or like, what was it?
[13:54] Georgia: It just made me, like, feel yuck. And because it was moving all your.
[13:59] Karianne: Toxins around, trying to get rid of.
[14:01] Georgia: It was Diana's job, and I hated it. And it was one of those ones that it it took all of, like, all of my determination to get on there and do it.
[14:13] Karianne: Okay. Yeah.
[14:14] Georgia: And after a couple of years of doing it, like, a few times a week, I was like, oh, it wasn't as fun. Now I'm fine anymore. But yeah, it was just it was, I think where I was at health wise, it was one of the most beneficial ones for me.
[14:27] Karianne: Yeah.
[14:28] Georgia: But it was also the one that.
[14:30] Karianne: I just well, and I think, too, a lot of people like, props to you for being like, I hate this. And I'm doing it anyway, because I think, especially in our culture, I Don't know about Australia, but especially in our culture in the United States, everybody wants an easy route, right? Like I have a discomfort, you know, I have an uncomfortable symptom, or I have this pain or that pain, but I don't want to endure any pain to get rid of it, or I don't want to endure any discomfort or annoyance or inconvenience to get rid of it. And our pharmaceutical industry has done a great job of exploiting that and going, no problem here, just take a pill. And, you know, we all know that that's a rabbit hole for disaster because One pill has 17 other side effects that you're going to have to take 17 other pills to get rid of. And it's just, it's a. It's a cycle of band aids that don't stick, essentially. But props to you for going, I hate this because a lot of people won't do that. They won't take the hard route or even the understanding of like, this isn't making me feel better right now, so it must not be working. Yes, this isn't making me feel better right now. And that's why it's working. It's uncomfortable because it's working.
[15:51] Georgia: I think one of the biggest things for me was that I just had complete trust and faith in what I was doing, the healing.
[15:59] Karianne: And you saw enough improvement that you were like, I just have to trust them.
[16:02] Georgia: And I, I made it my full time job. Yeah, my healing. So from the moment that I woke up to the moment that I went to sleep, I had this huge whiteboard in my bedroom.
[16:14] Karianne: Okay.
[16:15] Georgia: And I wrote down all the supplements that I needed to do. There was like little therapies that I did. So like I said, I got the power plate in the sauna and then there was a few other therapies that we got at home to kind of help my healing. While I was.
[16:29] Karianne: Do you remember what they were?
[16:30] Georgia: One was called a beamer. And then there was like a biomat. So it was kind of. It felt really nice because it warmed up and you laid on it and it was like crystals or gems. I think they were.
[16:41] Karianne: And is it like an amethyst maybe? I think they probably have a lot of different crystal frequencies.
[16:50] Georgia: It was just really relaxing to lay on the.
[16:52] Karianne: You're like, I like this one, which is so cool.
[16:56] Georgia: You said a beam, a beamer. So what did that.
[16:59] Karianne: What was that?
[17:01] Georgia: It was to move around. I don't know. I think again, the lymphatics.
[17:06] Karianne: But what, like, was it a mat.
[17:09] Georgia: That you Lay on. And it kind of sends, like, I guess, pulses through it.
[17:14] Karianne: Okay, so it was like a frequency thing?
[17:16] Georgia: Yeah, I guess. I don't really know. I just.
[17:19] Karianne: You were like, the doctor told me to do it, and so I'm doing.
[17:21] Georgia: It, and here I am, and I just noticed improvement. I know that it always helps with my jet lag. So the tricks, like, when I go home. If I go home and do that, my jet lag is nowhere near as bad as if I didn't do it.
[17:36] Karianne: So is it, like, does it vibrate? Does it move?
[17:39] Georgia: It doesn't move, but I think there's, like, pulses in it sometimes. When I did it, I actually haven't done it in a long time because it's in Australia, but I would, like, feel tingling.
[17:52] Karianne: It must have been a frequency thing.
[17:53] Georgia: Yeah, it was. It was cool. I don't. Don't know what it did, but it helps.
[17:57] Karianne: I'm just saying. Okay. Okay.
[17:59] Georgia: So I would.
[18:00] Karianne: I want the weeds. I want, like, the particulars.
[18:03] Georgia: So on the whiteboard, I'd have those therapies done. Like Epsom salt baths, like, anything that I could do to help things keep moving. And then there was, like, little, like, neurological exercises that I would do. There was, like, little emotional work that I do, books that I had to read on. Goals that I set. Like, goals for me was one of the biggest things. And I think, as you were saying, like, I had nine years where I didn't have any control in my life, and I didn't have any independence. Everything was just taken. And no matter what I did, I couldn't stop it. Now I have a control issue.
[18:48] Karianne: I have something that can be done. I'm not just sitting here suffering as a victim. I get to take my life back. And it's now in my hands because.
[18:56] Georgia: I never wanted to be the victim. And I never always just wanted.
[19:00] Karianne: You wanted solutions. Just no one was giving them tips.
[19:02] Georgia: Yes. And I always wanted there to be a purpose from this. Like, I just. I just needed that. And so goals for me, like, I remember that first trip. I set goals, and I said to Dr. Hart, like, when I come back, I think it was like, five months later or something, I'm going to achieve these goals. And this is the straight A student coming out, Right? Like, I'm the competitive person. I'm competitive. Like, I want to win. So that was me coming out, but it was also. It gave me so much determination to tackle my healing journey with everything I had and purpose and commitment. And I would have done that anyway. But like, it just gave me purpose to get out of bed every single day. And these goals, I saw a sheet of them the other day. They came up in my memories. They were tiny to anybody else, but with where I was at that point, they were massive. It was like Rita being able to hold my newborn nephew. So he was. I think he must have been, like, 4 months old at the time. And after he was a couple of weeks old, I couldn't hold him because I was too weak. And, like, my body just did not have the strength to hold him. And that took, like, a bit longer to be able to do that. But I was doing something. I would set these goals, and then I would break them down into tiny little goals. So it would be. I wanted to walk upstairs, and I hadn't been able to do that because stairs are hard, and my brain just. It just couldn't do it. And so I would get out of bed every day, and there was. We have two deck stairs at the house. And I would get up, and I started by just walking one stair, and then I'd sit down for ages, and then I would do two stairs. And then I Slowly, over the month, I would. I'd be. I would do it, and it was, this isn't going to be great in a podcast, but I would do, like, one foot on the step and then the next foot on the step and then go up and up. So I wasn't walking normally, but I was doing it. And, like, I just remember being able to walk stairs properly for the first time. Like, that was huge to me. Like, that felt like I was getting parts of my life back slowly. But to anybody else, it's like you're walking steps, but it was so big. And every time I achieved one of these goals and I would set heaps, it would be like, I got this little chair and we, like I said, we live on a farm, so we've got a bit of a driveway. And I would get this chair and I would walk. So there's fences up the driveway, like, for the sheep and cattle. And I would walk one fence post more a day, and then I would put the chair there and I'd leave it, and I'd sit there and then I'd walk back. And so I started off walking at such a small distance, Right. But by the end of it, I was walking a couple of miles and not having payback. And, like, that was the biggest thing for years. The smallest little thing, like getting up to get a drink of water would set me back in bed for Ages. Like any small activity that I did would set me into bed for weeks or months afterwards, like, in agony. So to not have that payback. So every single time I achieved one of these goals, it felt like I was getting, one, control back in my life. Two, I was getting my life back. And three, it was confirmation that I was in fact healing. Because when you are living your symptoms every day, I think sometimes the patient can be the last to feel the healing. Like, your loved ones see things before you feel them. Like, I remember my, my sister was like talking to me on FaceTime and she's just like, you just. You're different. Like something's changed. I didn't feel that because I was still in a lot of pain.
[23:18] Karianne: But like, when your pain's at a 20 and now it's at an 18, it's like, yeah, so I'm still in a lot of pain. But other people can notice it.
[23:27] Georgia: They can notice it. Like there was all these small things that other people noticed. But by achieving my goals, it was just confirmation to me, okay, I am healing because I'm able to do this well.
[23:40] Karianne: And setting those tiny bite sized goals is so important because would you keep going if your marker was in two years?
[23:50] Georgia: Exactly.
[23:51] Karianne: Right. Like, if you're like, I've spent the last nine years in bed and until I run a marathon, I'm not gonna consider myself healed.
[23:58] Georgia: Exactly.
[23:59] Karianne: Like, are you gonna keep going? Like, you're not gonna notice those little improvements? You're not going to celebrate those milestones when they're milestones when you're coming from death's door to living human again and living and breathing and just functioning on a normal level. Like, if you're not counting those tiny little steps, I think that's. I worked in a chiropractic office for a handful of years, which was so rewarding because we get to see, right? We get to see the patient improve and they don't even realize it. Like, I would see a patient would come in like, hunched, like, hunched over. Right. Can't stand up straight with a walker, taking one step at a time, can barely move. In a month, they're walking in without a walker and sitting down without a problem. And you're like, so how are you doing? And they're like, well, I'm still in a lot of pain. And you're like, do you not see the major improvements that have already happened? But if you're not counting those, those tiny things, then I can see how it would be much harder to keep going.
[25:11] Georgia: Yes.
[25:11] Karianne: Especially when you're doing these therapies that are not necessarily comfortable.
[25:14] Georgia: Yeah. And it was, it was so important to me to try and just focus on this, like, the smaller picture. Because it was extremely overwhelming to, like, look at how sick I was, where I was mentally where I was, you know, all the emotional things that had happened and the treatment that I had received in terms of the emotional treatment, not the physical treatment, it had shaped me so much. And if I sat and looked at how far I had to go to be healthy and to be able to live my life, it was overwhelming, Especially for someone that has bad anxiety.
[25:58] Karianne: Yeah. So like, oh, my gosh.
[26:00] Georgia: Too much. So I had to really focus. I still need to do this better, but just taking it like one step at a time. So by having these goals, the bite sized goals. Bite sized goals that were working towards a bigger goal in the near future, I could focus on that.
[26:20] Karianne: Yeah.
[26:20] Georgia: And it would. And you could achieve it Less overwhelming than being like, okay, I've got maybe seven years until I feel human. Like, no, that's. That's way too far, way too overwhelming. And I think in order to stay so consistent with my healing and my dedication and consistent improvement. Yes. So that was really cool.
[26:46] Karianne: Not. Not I'm super sick or I'm running a marathon, but all the moments that have to happen in between, and they're.
[26:53] Georgia: All so important and such a part of the journey. Like, like I said, I had to walk nine years of being chronically ill to get to my lowest. I have to walk back out that path.
[27:08] Karianne: Yeah. Like, gotta go back the other way.
[27:11] Georgia: Yeah.
[27:12] Karianne: So they did all these detoxing treatments, very much focusing on eliminating the toxins that were obviously overburdening your system and just spiraling on each other and making it worse. And then when you're a little bit. When you have a few too many toxins and then you're so sick and now you have the emotional side of things. Kind of the trauma of being that sick for that long. Right. Like, then that makes it worse.
[27:41] Georgia: Yeah.
[27:41] Karianne: And that adds more burden and that adds more physical ailments. So you started with, it seems like to me, you started with like a toxin overload, essentially. On top of a genetic disposition to not detoxifying well, on top of a traumatic brain injury, which causes swelling in your brain, which so do heavy metals. Right. Like you've got all these things compounding on themselves that are leading to physical manifestations. And now your physical manifestations that no one is able to figure out or help you with. Now you're having emotional trauma on top of that. Besides, not even to mention everyone has physic, has emotional baggage and emotional trauma just from living. Right. Like, we all have it. So you already had a little bit of that, but now you have these physical manifestations. You've got these emotional traumas on top of the physical manifestations. And now the emotional trauma is making the physical manifestation worse. And your physical manifestation. And now you're in the spiral right now. You're in the cycle of just compounding, compounding, compounding more and more on your system. So they're addressing your physical side. You said there was a lot of emotional work done as well. What did that look like? Like, what were the therapies that were used? Was it psychotherapy? Talk therapy? Was it?
[29:10] Georgia: So I did a lot with my doctor, just like talking it through with him. He has different techniques that he was using. I used emotional freedom techniques, tapping a lot. It was more so acknowledging a lot because I. Even today, which seems so weird because I'm studying to be a clinical psychologist, I still try to avoid my emotions.
[29:40] Karianne: That's not that weird though, Georgia, because we all get into industries that make us be able to help ourselves better.
[29:49] Georgia: Yes. So.
[29:51] Karianne: So that's not weird.
[29:51] Georgia: I. I was terrible. I was the worst. I had a psychologist that I was going to. And I gave her nothing. I now sitting at school last year, learning about the difficult patients.
[30:06] Karianne: Yeah, you were.
[30:06] Georgia: That was every single thing they said. I gave her nothing. I had a brick wall up. I had my shields up. I was not letting it in. So for me, my mindset at that time was all of these huge things were happening. Right. Physically, I thought I was going to die. I lost my teenage and twenties. Right.
[30:34] Karianne: Very developmental years. Yeah.
[30:36] Georgia: So people like them, oh, they're the best user for life. And I'm spending them in bed. Like it was. It was a lot. I lost most of my friends. It was just everything lost my independence. So if I, at that point in time, I was just trying to survive. I was just trying to make it to the very next day. Some days I don't know how I was doing that. I would look at a clock and I'd watch the minute tick by and I'd be like, I just survived another minute. And then I would focus on another minute. That was literally where I was for a long time. So I didn't have the capacity at that point to process emotion, deal with how bad everything was.
[31:19] Karianne: Yeah.
[31:19] Georgia: Because I think mentally that would have. I just had to not give up.
[31:26] Karianne: Yeah.
[31:26] Georgia: And If I had have dealt with how bad it really was at that point, it would have been a lot harder to not give up. So where I was at that point, I couldn't. Also, it was depression. You avoid things also. I still do it today, but not.
[31:42] Karianne: A big fan of emotions. Okay.
[31:45] Georgia: So a big part of my healing was actually putting my shield down, acknowledging emotions, acknowledging that. But also I had to find a doctor that I trusted to be able to open up and be like, this happened. This is how I was feeling. This is how terrifying it was like, Right. And that was a big thing. I had lost trust in pretty much everybody, the medical profession, just people in general.
[32:15] Karianne: Right.
[32:16] Georgia: Because that had been destroyed by me for so much. So it was very much a, you have to earn my trust.
[32:23] Karianne: Right.
[32:24] Georgia: And then if you do that, I will try and open up. But I was very lucky with my doctor that I could completely trust him from the first appointment. So I was able to start addressing some of these big things. And the way that I see healing and this is emotional and physical and just healing in general, it's like a big onion, and you have to work through the layers of the onion, and so you work through one. So, for example, for me, age 23 and 18 were my worst years, my most traumatic years, and probably the years that have shaped me the most in who I am and how I react to things. But so, like, for a long time.
[33:09] Karianne: We were just addressing 18 and 23.
[33:12] Georgia: 18 and 23 were coming up, like, constantly and felt like forever. And I was like, is this ever going to end? Am I ever going to get a different year?
[33:21] Karianne: Like, right.
[33:22] Georgia: And then over time, as you do that healing and you work through those things and process those things, you know, age 17 or like, whatever could come up and you could address that.
[33:33] Karianne: So it was really the less traumatic, but still impactful.
[33:37] Georgia: Yes, yes, still traumatic on a level, but not as traumatic. So, like, it was about addressing things, trying to make myself feel safe, to feel those big feelings. And I think that's, you know, something that I'm always working on, trying to not run away from feeling those things. And actually, it is healthy to feel those big things because how you process and you can release it and you can work through it, and it's not having that big impact. Like I said before, I went years, and I can count how many times I cried, and I always felt horrible after crying because, like, I would. I had a couple of people I could trust enough to open up in that regard. And I always felt like the biggest burden Afterwards, because that was what I was told by thousands of people was I was a burden. And so I didn't do it because I didn't want to put more on my loved ones than I was already doing. So that was, like, this fear. So it was like, I need to be safe in my environment to feel what I need to feel. And like I said, I went so long without crying. As a psychology student, I do not recommend that at all. It's very unhealthy.
[35:02] Karianne: Please don't from a wellness standpoint, either. Crying is a great way to get your body out of that, like, stress state. Right. Fight or flight. It's a release, right?
[35:13] Georgia: Yes.
[35:13] Karianne: And when you're releasing, you're not holding on, you're not harboring. It's not causing more problems inside you.
[35:19] Georgia: Yes. And your nervous system needs it.
[35:21] Karianne: Yeah.
[35:22] Georgia: Like, reset goes not in fight or flight. Like, constantly, like.
[35:28] Karianne: Yeah.
[35:28] Georgia: It's so hard. So, yeah, it was a lot. I did, like, a lot of reading on, like, emotional things. I really went deep in, like, the Brene Brown work. She is, like, amazing in vulnerability, shame, fear. Yes. Bess.
[35:46] Karianne: I love that book.
[35:47] Georgia: Me too. Favorite book. So she was so big on that because, I mean, shame and guilt was overwhelming me.
[35:55] Karianne: Yeah.
[35:56] Georgia: Just so.
[35:57] Karianne: A lot of it was reframing with different perspectives and things like that. But what was the energy side of it? What was the. What sets this doctor apart from all the other alternative doctors out there for you?
[36:14] Georgia: It's extremely difficult to explain, and I cannot do justice to what he can do. But it uses a lot of, like, bioresident scanning, biological medicine, functional medicine.
[36:31] Karianne: Um, so essentially, he's, like, keying in. He's tapping into your energetic frequencies. Like, everything is energy. Right. Every illness, symptom issue. Right. Every great thing, every wonderful thing, every thought. Right. Everything is energy.
[36:51] Georgia: Yes.
[36:51] Karianne: So essentially, what he's doing is tapping into your energy, your personal physical and emotional energetic field.
[36:58] Georgia: Yes.
[36:59] Karianne: To kind of direct where the healing goes.
[37:01] Georgia: Yes.
[37:01] Karianne: And, like, where the treatments go.
[37:02] Georgia: Yeah. And to find, like, the root causes to the symptoms and even, like, the emotional side of things. But, you know, you've got a symptom for a reason. There's no. It's not just a fluke that you have a headache or you're vomiting or whatever. There is something causing that. So by using that frequency and bioresident scanning to help try and discover. Okay, so what's the root cause?
[37:32] Karianne: What's the problem?
[37:33] Georgia: What is. Okay, so, yes, I was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome. But what's actually causing that. Like, why is my body in a position that Lyme disease could take over? Why is it in a position where.
[37:46] Karianne: Taking it a step further.
[37:47] Georgia: Yeah, like finding the why behind everything. Because the fact is I got Lyme disease by being bitten by a mosquito. I was with my parents and my siblings, they all got bitten probably by the same mosquito. So why was I the one that got chronic late stage Lyme disease? And they perfectly fine. So it's like finding out what is happening to put your body in a place of vulnerability. So a big factor of this is not treating the symptoms. So I went in with a lot of symptoms, right. And okay, so I have a headache. Well, if you just treat the headache, you're not finding the root cause of what's actually causing the headache, Right. So for me, headache for me is typically I'm in mold, I've got heavy metals. So like if you're treating the mold and the metals over time by addressing the root cause, right, Those headaches, like they fade away, they fade away. It's not a bandaid, you have a headache, let's treat the headache. It's you have a headache, let's find what's causing that. What's causing that.
[39:03] Karianne: And. And so he uses kind of principles of energetic frequency to kind of dial in on that, which is really cool.
[39:10] Georgia: It's amazing. I can, like I said, I cannot do justice. I can't explain it because it is so full on. And I have been a patient of Dr. Hart's for like eight years, I think seven years or something. I still, still cannot explain it, but it is incredible what it can do. And the healing that you can see from that when you, one, trust the treatment but two, also commit and dedicate it completely. Because one of the biggest things that I learnt and that I applied to my own healing is that it's a team effort and you can't just rely. It's not up to the doctor to do it. Like they can do all they're, they are incredible. And they can do all of that. But if you're not doing the work.
[40:02] Karianne: Yourself and it's a team effort.
[40:04] Georgia: Yeah, you have to show up. Like, you have to do.
[40:07] Karianne: It takes a long time, right, like how many sessions with Dr. Hart or like how many, how many times were you treated by Dr. Hart over the course of the last however many years?
[40:17] Georgia: It's been so starting in 2017 and I believe I've been here 10 times from Australia for treatment. So it's a lot, It's a big commitment it's been 100% worth it. The best decision on my life, because I literally went from thinking I was about to die at 24 to being 31 and living in America for a year. I'm stunning psychology to be a clinical psych, hopefully. And I am, like, driving on the wrong side of the road over here. Let me say it. Like, that's weird. And just being able to live my life using the experiences that I've had. And it was not. Like I said, I've been coming here from 2017. I am still working on things. I'm still trying to heal and work through physical things, work through emotional things. Like, it's an ongoing journey.
[41:23] Karianne: It's never done.
[41:24] Georgia: No. And, like.
[41:25] Karianne: But now you're not in a situation where you're. You're not necessarily healing anymore. You're just thriving.
[41:34] Georgia: Yeah.
[41:34] Karianne: It's a matter of wellness. It's a matter of, like, increasing your wellness even more. But you're. Well, you're.
[41:40] Georgia: Yeah, there's still some things like that. Like, heavy metals, for me are a big thing. I do these really weird hiccups.
[41:48] Karianne: Yeah.
[41:48] Georgia: And I think being on a farm all of my life, I have been constantly exposed to chemicals and sprays and fertilizers and pesticides.
[41:59] Karianne: Yeah.
[42:00] Georgia: That just built up in my system to the point where I was just full of heavy metals, and now I need to avoid all of that. Right. But. So I'm still, like, working on that, but it's at the point where I can still be living my life. Despite that. I'm working on those.
[42:18] Karianne: And they addressed EMFs too, with you, too. You have a big EMF, EMFs with you because you have a heavy metal problem. So electromagnetic frequencies that we know heavy metals are a conduit for. I can see that would be a big problem.
[42:33] Georgia: It was so crazy before, I. So when I was going to my chronic fatigue specialist in Australia, he was incredible. But it was so weird because my EMFs were so sensitive that if there was a thunderstorm, like, with lightning, I could feel the lightning go through me every time.
[42:54] Karianne: Oh, God, that sounds miserable.
[42:55] Georgia: It was crazy. I would be in a dark room because, I mean, that's how I spent my years. In a dark room, no light and with the curtains closed. And I could tell you when there was a lightning strike. Like, it was crazy. So getting my EMFs down, like, making sure I was grounding a lot and just trying to lessen the load on my body was a big factor.
[43:22] Karianne: It was so. It was. It took a bunch of trips it was all these different facets of things that people typically. Like, generally don't think about.
[43:34] Georgia: No, no.
[43:35] Karianne: And because if it doesn't affect everybody, then it shouldn't affect somebody. And I think that's like a mindset that people have that makes them discount, like a holistic approach. It's like. Well, it's obviously, it's just. There's something wrong with me. It's like, well, yes, but no.
[43:53] Georgia: It's.
[43:54] Karianne: We all have sensitivities and dispositions to certain things. We're unique beings. We're unique humans. And if you have a hard time detoxing, you're full of heavy metals from things like pesticides and vaccines and toxins and just general illnesses and inflammation. Right. You're full of heavy metals. You add EMFs on top of it. You're gonna be sensitive to the EMFs. If your body is loaded with heavy metals, it's like things compound on each other and it's hard to trace it back.
[44:25] Georgia: Yes. And there was, like, the lime, the mold, like, those parasites, like, so many different factors, like, so many contributing factors to it. And going back to that beaker analogy from earlier, like, it was just so much. And I had to get my toxin overload down.
[44:43] Karianne: And it takes.
[44:44] Georgia: Yeah, definitely. And it was like, a lot of different components put together in terms of healing. So obviously, Dr. Hart was absolutely incredible and doing all his work, but then I was doing, like, emotional things to it. Back home, I was doing infrared saunas every day, Epsom salt baths, the Beamer mat, the power plate. I was exercising to get things moving. I was doing lymphatic massages, chiropractic adjustments. So, like, so many different elements put.
[45:15] Karianne: Together in the right way.
[45:17] Georgia: Yes, definitely. Focusing on, obviously, trying to get these detox pathways open so that my body can actually detox. So it wasn't like it was so many pieces of the puzzle that had to be put together. Together.
[45:32] Karianne: Yeah.
[45:32] Georgia: To be able to see the results.
[45:36] Karianne: And something that's kind of cool that came out of your healing journey. Right. You're now a emotion code practitioner. Body code practitioner.
[45:47] Georgia: Yeah.
[45:48] Karianne: That's something that Dr. Hart recommended to you.
[45:50] Georgia: Yeah. So when Covid happened and I couldn't get over here for a few years, it was just something that was recommended in order to do on myself in order to continue my emotional healing. So it just uses, like, applied kinesiology, muscle testing type thing to ask the subconscious questions because we're all energetic and we live in our conscious mind that really doesn't remember much at all. Whereas our subconscious knows what's happening in your body and why it's happening, holds.
[46:23] Karianne: On to everything when it happens. Everything.
[46:24] Georgia: Like. Yes. So it's using the muscle testing in order to access that and ask questions to determine what's happening and why. So it looks at the emotional side of things, limiting beliefs, but also it does look at the physical side of things like mold and viruses and bacteria and different organs and how they all play a part together. So that was really cool. I started that just for my own healing. But you had to do a course to get certified. And so when I started seeing more results in myself by doing it on my own, I decided to start a little business with it and do those sessions on other people as well. I have taken this year off because I'm traveling and living overseas, but I definitely miss it. And, yes. Getting back.
[47:18] Karianne: Yeah, that's something that you practice in Australia and you can do virtual sessions.
[47:24] Georgia: Yeah, absolutely. Like, a lot of my. So when I was doing it back home, like, a lot of my clients were American, and we were doing it over zoom.
[47:32] Karianne: Yeah.
[47:33] Georgia: Anyway, so I can.
[47:35] Karianne: I can vouch for it. I'm a big fan.
[47:37] Georgia: Thank you.
[47:38] Karianne: I'm a big fan. And essentially. So I just started reading the book because I'm like. Like, no, I, like, love this thing, and I need to know more about it, and I need.
[47:49] Georgia: So interesting.
[47:50] Karianne: And, yeah, I'm fascinated by it. So I'm in the middle of reading the book, and essentially, it's based on the principle that your body keeps score.
[47:58] Georgia: Yes.
[47:59] Karianne: And your subconscious forgets nothing.
[48:03] Georgia: Yes.
[48:04] Karianne: And so a lot of, like, when it comes to the emotion code, if you have, like, really impactful, strong emotions, which we all do in different aspects, different moments, those emotions can get trapped in certain places of the body.
[48:22] Georgia: Correct. Yes.
[48:23] Karianne: And what you do as a practitioner is you clear those.
[48:28] Georgia: Yeah. So it's about energies getting. Bringing up from the subconscious mind to the conscious mind. Because, like I said, your conscious mind doesn't know why it's happening. Right. And by bringing it from the subconscious to the conscious, then your body can process it, release it. And so what I do is trying to help energetically to bring that to the conscious mind. So then your body is releasing it. And I think it's great in that you don't need to relive your trauma.
[48:58] Karianne: Right.
[48:59] Georgia: In order to release it, bringing it.
[49:00] Karianne: To the conscious mind. That doesn't necessarily mean, like, reliving the experience or even knowing what. What it was. No, it's just a matter of, like, hey, we're going to bring this up and now we're going to get rid.
[49:11] Georgia: Of it and release it. Yes. And like, you don't need to even say anything about it, like.
[49:17] Karianne: Yeah.
[49:17] Georgia: And sometimes, you know, patients will feel a bit emotional or they know exactly what it is and other times they don't. And it really doesn't matter either way because your subconscious knows what it is.
[49:29] Karianne: And when you clear it from the subconscious and release it from the subconscious, it's no longer causing harm inside your body.
[49:34] Georgia: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[49:35] Karianne: It's pretty, it's pretty sick.
[49:37] Georgia: It's pretty cool.
[49:37] Karianne: It's pretty sweet.
[49:38] Georgia: It's pretty different. That is pretty cool.
[49:40] Karianne: It's big. I always tell people, I'm like, look, it's. If you're like a. Not a holistic or spiritual minded person, this is gonna sound absolutely insane. Like, but if you are, then you'd be like, totally. That makes sense. Because it's, it's working with the energy of your body.
[49:59] Georgia: Yeah.
[49:59] Karianne: And tapping into the energetic frequency of your body.
[50:02] Georgia: Yes.
[50:03] Karianne: Essentially. And just talking to it, like, hey, what's going on here?
[50:06] Georgia: What? Yeah.
[50:07] Karianne: Because your subconscious knows things that your.
[50:09] Georgia: Conscious mind does not. I mean, we go through things in our life where we either just don't want to deal with and so we suppress it and that's when it becomes trapped. And, and other times you think you're dealing with it, but like, it's still. It's not, it's overwhelming, it gets trapped and then that can over time just manifest into physical symptoms. Anxiety, depression, like so many different things. So it's pretty cool that you can release that and. Yeah. Release the hold that it has.
[50:40] Karianne: Let it go.
[50:41] Georgia: Yes.
[50:42] Karianne: And you don't have to. I think too, one of my favorite things about it is that you don't have to say, like, no, I'm gonna let it go. Right. Like when you feel uncomfortable emotions, you probably go through your own process, right? I do at least. And I'm like, you know what? It's not worth my time.
[51:01] Georgia: I'm just gonna let it go.
[51:03] Karianne: And I say that.
[51:04] Georgia: But you're doing.
[51:06] Karianne: But maybe my emotions are like, I'm not ready.
[51:08] Georgia: Yes, I will be like, yeah, I'm gonna let it go. And then I think about it 1000 more times and I'm like, Georgia, you were meant to let it go fast.
[51:17] Karianne: What happened to the letting it go thing? You don't have to. You don't actually have to. Like the cool thing. The coolest thing is you don't have to actually do anything.
[51:26] Georgia: No, you sit back and relax.
[51:28] Karianne: Yeah. All you have to do is just be present and, like, essentially allow the other person to.
[51:36] Georgia: Yeah.
[51:36] Karianne: And you can do it to yourself, too.
[51:38] Georgia: Yeah.
[51:38] Karianne: I mean, if you really want to go through, like, learning and doing all that. I really like having someone else do it because it's nice. But I am so interested that I'm like, I want to learn more about this. I want to see if I can figure out how to do this, too.
[51:51] Georgia: You know, because you would be amazing.
[51:53] Karianne: It's so. It's so helpful and so healing and so not what anybody else would be addressing.
[52:01] Georgia: No.
[52:02] Karianne: Right.
[52:02] Georgia: And it's crazy. Like, there's limiting beliefs and things like that in there that there's inherited things that you pick up from generations that just get passed along. And like. Like, for me, like, self worth has always been low. And then obviously, with what I went through, like, life experiences made it lower, but then there would be, like, an inherited thing to that. And so it just makes a bit more sense of, like, okay, like, that's why I've always felt that way.
[52:31] Karianne: Or like, well, there's things that can be passed down from generation to generation. Like, things that are just, like, in our, like, ancestral line.
[52:40] Georgia: Yeah.
[52:41] Karianne: And then there's also, like, you know, especially for people like you and I, who are generally very empathic. Right. Like, we suck up and absorb the energy of so many people around us and not even know it.
[52:54] Georgia: Yeah.
[52:55] Karianne: You know, like, have no clue. Like, just be. I'm just feeling this weird feeling, and I can't pinpoint where it's from. It can release that from some stranger.
[53:05] Georgia: In the grocery store that you walked past.
[53:08] Karianne: Some strangers, didn't even talk to people over. I had no clue. You know, like, I don't know. I didn't even talk to that person. But you're sucking up the energies of other people, too, which is totally out of your control. Well, there's ways that we can mediate it, but still, like, you know, having your guard up all the time is not easy. So I. I love that it's just, like, simple and it's a crazy. Like, what do you mean? You're tapping into the subconscious mind? Like, the concept of it sounds, like, so weird, crazy.
[53:41] Georgia: Yes.
[53:41] Karianne: And, like, what are you even saying to me? But, I mean, I can attest that it works amazing. It's worked for so many different things for me. And then I got my mom onto it. It's worked for so many different things for her. We helped Camila with her. She was Having nightmares. Remember that? That was like. It was like weeks of nightmares every single night. Waking up screaming like, night terrors. And I was like, I don't. Georgia, what do you think? What can we do? And, you know, it resolved. So the vast amount of things that it can resolve is just a testament to how impactful our emotions are.
[54:21] Georgia: Yes. They can have such a huge. That's been one of the biggest things I've probably learned is that I never paid enough respect to how important your emotions are. Not just, like, the impact that they can have, but actually needing to address it and like, including that in your healing and making sure that you are dealing with emotions. And obviously I say all of this and then I'm not the greatest myself, but I'm working on it. It's a work in progress. We're all a work in progress. But yes, like, it. It's pretty crazy to me that I went from someone that was so closed off and just could not do emissions brick wall to being like, I want to be a clinical psychologist. This is what I'm working towards. Like, it's not crazy.
[55:07] Karianne: It's perfectly aligned.
[55:09] Georgia: It's using my life experiences to help others, hopefully. So that's amazing. No, it's pretty cool.
[55:17] Karianne: Well, that's awesome. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I know it's probably not easy to relive a lot of that.
[55:23] Georgia: That's okay.
[55:23] Karianne: But we appreciate your v sharing with us. I hope that listeners that might be struggling with their own battles, whether it be chronic illness or trauma or emotional stuff, can just gain a sense of hope that there are other options out there besides, like, mainstream medical help. And that's not to say that mainstream medical help does not have its place. It kept you alive for get me Alive. But, you know, I think some people think, like, oh, if you believe in, like, more holistic approaches, then you don't believe in mainstream medical. And like, the reality of the situation is that mainstream medical world did not serve you and didn't. Wasn't able to help you.
[56:15] Georgia: No.
[56:16] Karianne: And that's. That's not uncommon, you know, and for people who don't just want to take a pill for X, Y or Z, you know, for your situation, there were no pills.
[56:25] Georgia: No.
[56:26] Karianne: There were no pharmaceutical options to even offer you. And so their hands were kind of tied. Not that they were not good doctors, not that they didn't want to help, but they just didn't have the tools.
[56:37] Georgia: Yes.
[56:37] Karianne: So I think it's really awesome and really helpful for us to be able to Offer just alternative options. Like, there are people with other tools.
[56:48] Georgia: Yeah, definitely.
[56:48] Karianne: That might be able to actually serve the root cause of what's going on with your kids.
[56:53] Georgia: Look outside the square.
[56:54] Karianne: Look outside the, you know, pharmaceutical lens, because when it comes to the mainstream medical world, what they can do is limited. They can either do a surgery. Right. Cut you open and take things out, or repair things, which is wonderful. It's needed sometimes. Or they can write a prescription, and that's kind of it. A lot of times dependent on, you know, their. Their scope of practice. But there are other options out there, even if they sound crazy, even if you don't really understand the ins and outs of how they work. Just when you're. If you're in a state of trauma or chronic illness. Like, I think it's enough that they do work.
[57:43] Georgia: Yes. And that they can be open to it. Yeah. The hope is the big thing. Like. Yeah. For so many years, I. I didn't have that. And, like, it's not a way to live. Like, I know I made a thing where I made an effort every few months to have something to look forward to. And that might be go out for 30 minutes with my family for a dinner. Right. I'd be in a wheelchair. I'd be in bed for weeks afterwards in more excruciating pain than normal. But I needed that to have hope and to have something to live for. So I think, like, hope is so big in our lives, we need to have it. Speaking for someone that, like, literally, I banned myself from having hope because I deal with the heartbreak. But that's no way of, like, living. You need to live your life, and there is hope, and miracles can happen. That I learned with hard work and. And putting it in. Anything can happen, and you don't know. You don't know what's gonna happen.
[58:50] Karianne: Yeah.
[58:51] Georgia: You don't know where your life is gonna take you.
[58:53] Karianne: And being able to get through those really, really tough years got you to the point where you did find healing.
[59:00] Georgia: Yes.
[59:00] Karianne: You are in an amazing spot now, and you're helping other people and kind of transmuting your really tough experience, your challenges, into a way to help others, which I think is really.
[59:14] Georgia: Use it for purpose.
[59:15] Karianne: Got it. It's fueling your drive.
[59:17] Georgia: Yes.
[59:19] Karianne: Thank you for taking the time, Georgia. It's been an absolute pleasure. If you are interested in more information on what Georgia does as far as emotional code, body code, things like that, or you are in the Nashville area and interested in learning more about her doctor, that really helped her. Dr. Hart I will go ahead in the show notes and link places where you can find the both of them for more information. Until next time. I love you. Ciao.
[02:13] Georgia: So I had a group chat with my parents and my siblings and I think I just put the link to that. I was like, check this out, I need to go. And then my brother was there, like shortly after and he's like, we gotta get you there. Like, we've got nothing to lose and everything to gain. And then my sister was, you know, shortly after saying the same thing. It took a bit longer to convince mum and dad just for the sole purpose of we didn't know, like, we didn't know the place, we didn't know anyone in America. Like, it was a lot like you.
[02:50] Karianne: Were traveling to another country for.
[02:53] Georgia: Also, like how I was so sick. I was at my absolute lowest, right?
[02:58] Karianne: How are you even going to get there?
[02:59] Georgia: How do I get there? How do I survive?
[03:01] Karianne: Handling travel is hard when you're healthy.
[03:04] Georgia: And it's a very long travel. Like travel time to Australia. So it was a lot. But three weeks later, I think it was, we left, my mum and I and we came over and did three weeks of treatment. That's where I met my doctor, Dr. Hart, and we just focused on treating, like finding the root causes to what was happening and giving my body what it needs in order to heal itself. Because your body has this incredible ability to heal if it gets.
[03:38] Karianne: It wants to heal.
[03:39] Georgia: Yeah, absolutely. So give the body what it needs and like focus on detox and help the lymphatic system to get things moving and give it the supplements that it's needing to heal and incredible things can happen. Like it's.
[03:56] Karianne: So you came out here for three week intensive doing like, alternative therapies. What did treatment look like for you? Like, what did, like what was done? What, what did you do?
[04:09] Georgia: So there was just. Well, the things that we focused on was the Lyme disease, mould, heavy metals, parasites.
[04:18] Karianne: So you had. It was a lot of detoxing, a lot of detox. You had a lot of, like, built up.
[04:24] Georgia: Yeah. Focusing on getting, like toxins. Yeah, absolutely. So getting the detox pathways open so that your body can detox it out, that was a challenging thing for me because my body kind of struggles to detox even today with everything that I've done.
[04:40] Karianne: Okay. That's just like kind of innate.
[04:42] Georgia: Yeah. So it, my body yet just has the gene where it's. It struggles to detox and it's just a lot harder on mine than other people. So going slow so that you don't get the symptoms of a bad reaction from too much detox at once. And there was. I just focused a lot on like the emotional side of it because, I mean, emotions have a big impact on the overall health. And in terms of my healing, the emotional healing has been just as important as the physical because it's a package and it affects one, affects the other. So there was a lot there that we needed. I actually had to address my emotions for the first time. Yeah. Work through them and work through the trauma that I'd gone through. And there was a lot of trauma that had happened and occurred. So that was an important aspect of the healing journey. And just also realizing that I didn't get sick overnight. Like, it took me nine years of everyday body getting worse until I reached the lowest point. As much as I would have loved to click my fingers and be like, I'm cured, I've got my life back, that wasn't going to happen. I had to walk the journey, that path to get to my lowest. I had to walk. I had to turn around and walk back on that path. So it was like, it's a journey. And, yes, I started getting improvements, but it was also, there was moments where I, like, slipped backwards a bit. You know, even today, if I'm in mold, my body slips back. Like, my health slips back. So it's a constant working through that. But also, I had to get to the point where I think this was a big one for me, was I always just wanted my old life back. I just wanted to get those years back. There is absolutely nothing in this world that would give me back. Like, with the healing journey on top, where I was really sick, it was about 13, 14 years that I lost my life.
[07:00] Karianne: Right.
[07:00] Georgia: I can never get those. Those back.
[07:03] Karianne: You're not going to.
[07:04] Georgia: And I am not the person that I was when I was 15, when I got sick. I don't want to be the person that I was when I was 15, when I got sick. So it had to be that mind shift of, I don't want my old life back, but I want to get my life back so I can be the person that I am today, the person that my life experiences have turned me into. And I kind of see that as a blessing in that. I learned life experiences that most people don't learn until they're at the end of their life.
[07:40] Karianne: That's true. Yeah.
[07:41] Georgia: I learned them in my teenage and early 20 years. Like, I now have the rest of my life to enjoy those lessons. Yes. And to use them and to. Yeah. Have that experience and that life experience of these really tough life lessons that I wouldn't wish on anybody.
[08:02] Karianne: Right. Like, even just, like, face to face with death.
[08:05] Georgia: Yes.
[08:06] Karianne: Yeah.
[08:06] Georgia: Yeah. And, like, regret was a big one for me. So I remember when I was really sick, just actually, it was just not that many months before I had, like, the lowest night. I wrote down a list of everything in my life that I would never get to do again or never got to do at all. Because I let. I always had anxiety, and I always talked myself out of things, out of fear and anxiety. And it was this list of regret, of things that I always wanted to do or that I loved and didn't do.
[08:39] Karianne: Because you were scared.
[08:39] Georgia: Because of my fear. And I'm like, I'm going to die at 24, and I'm going to die never having done those things. And it was honestly one of the hardest things I ever went through, to.
[08:54] Karianne: Come face to face with that.
[08:55] Georgia: Yeah. Because I was, like, so much regret. And I made a promise to myself then that if I got a miracle and I got a second chance at life, next time I'm facing death, I'm not having that regret. I will be like, I'm doing the hard things, I'm doing the scary things because I want to experience those things. And it was also the other side of that was, if anything, and this was really pivotal for how I faced my healing journey, was if I got a chance to get that second chance, I was giving it absolutely everything I had, and I would be 100% dedicated to it. I was going to give it my absolute all because I didn't have another option.
[09:44] Karianne: To live almost a decade and have people tell you that there's nothing that you can do and that you're a victim essentially of your circumstance and there's nothing they can do, be completely out of control like that. I would imagine that you'd have a lot of pent up wanting to do something right? Like do anything to try to alleviate the pain that you were in for almost a decade. Yeah. So when someone comes along and goes, okay, it's going to be really hard, but this is how we're going to do it. I can imagine you'd be like, yes, please, let's go.
[10:29] Georgia: Yeah, absolutely.
[10:30] Karianne: And so was that like your experience? Is that how you felt when Dr. Hart comes in and he goes, okay, like, I can help you, I can help you.
[10:40] Georgia: Yeah.
[10:41] Karianne: I don't know exactly what's wrong, but I know enough to be able to deal with a lot of this root cause stuff. And you're gonna have to work really freaking hard. Are you ready? Were you like. Yes, things were ready before. I'm on Ben ready.
[11:00] Georgia: Yes. And I was willing to do absolutely anything.
[11:04] Karianne: So you go. And they're focusing on detox. What were the methods that were used for detoxing?
[11:09] Georgia: So that was just.
[11:10] Karianne: Was it like herbal? Was it like. So it was like supplements, lymphatic massage type stuff. Okay.
[11:16] Georgia: Yeah. It was just different therapies that they used pretty much to focus on that lymphatic system and allow.
[11:23] Karianne: So we're talking massage. We're talking. Do they do like lasers or.
[11:28] Georgia: They did other things.
[11:28] Karianne: Light therapy?
[11:30] Georgia: Yeah, there were different ones. I don't really know specifically what they do, but I just know, like, yeah, I was focusing on helping the body to detox and to get those detox pathways open, because that is.
[11:44] Karianne: So you were having to take some supplements to detox, hydrate. Like, was your nutrition part of their protocol?
[11:52] Georgia: So mine was different. In that I'd gone all those years without eating. So, like, starting there, it was like trying to eat again. So we kind of we went slow, but I was able to they were.
[12:08] Karianne: Kind of guiding you on, like, what not to incorporate and what to incorporate.
[12:13] Georgia: So for me personally, like, I have a dairy allergy, and I'm intolerant to gluten. And then was histamine at some point became a big thing for me. So I was cut out all histamine foods, which, spoiler alert, is all the good foods.
[12:29] Karianne: I know.
[12:30] Georgia: Especially chocolate.
[12:32] Karianne: Oh, my gosh. I know. Garlic too, right?
[12:35] Georgia: Yeah. Tomatoes.
[12:37] Karianne: Tomatoes. Like nightshades.
[12:38] Georgia: Yeah. So it was like avocado. I was obsessed with Italian food.
[12:41] Karianne: No, you can eat avocado, right?
[12:43] Georgia: No, that tasting. So it was like all the I got to eating again, and then it's like, oh, now I need to avoid all the great stuff. This isn't so fun. I really struggled.
[12:56] Karianne: But over time, you were able to start kind of incorporating some things back in. Just working with your body's sensitivities.
[13:04] Georgia: Yeah.
[13:05] Karianne: Getting inflammation down, detox. So that's like yeah. Lymphatic system, herbal remedies. What else was what other therapies were used?
[13:17] Georgia: Well, I know that when I came back home after that trip, I got an infrared sauna.
[13:23] Karianne: Okay.
[13:24] Georgia: I got what else did I get? I got a thing called a power plate. So it's like oh, the like is.
[13:31] Karianne: It it's like the vibration plate.
[13:33] Georgia: Yeah.
[13:33] Karianne: Okay. Okay.
[13:33] Georgia: So it moves. Cause that, like, gets yout get things moving around. I absolutely hated it. It was the one therapy I would cry doing it. I just hated it. I did it and I did did.
[13:50] Karianne: You hate it because it was uncomfortable for you or like, what was it?
[13:54] Georgia: It just made me, like, feel yuck. And because it was moving all your.
[13:59] Karianne: Toxins around, trying to get rid of.
[14:01] Georgia: It was Diana's job, and I hated it. And it was one of those ones that it it took all of, like, all of my determination to get on there and do it.
[14:13] Karianne: Okay. Yeah.
[14:14] Georgia: And after a couple of years of doing it, like, a few times a week, I was like, oh, it wasn't as fun. Now I'm fine anymore. But yeah, it was just it was, I think where I was at health wise, it was one of the most beneficial ones for me.
[14:27] Karianne: Yeah.
[14:28] Georgia: But it was also the one that.
[14:30] Karianne: I just well, and I think, too, a lot of people like, props to you for being like, I hate this. And I'm doing it anyway, because I think, especially in our culture, I Don't know about Australia, but especially in our culture in the United States, everybody wants an easy route, right? Like I have a discomfort, you know, I have an uncomfortable symptom, or I have this pain or that pain, but I don't want to endure any pain to get rid of it, or I don't want to endure any discomfort or annoyance or inconvenience to get rid of it. And our pharmaceutical industry has done a great job of exploiting that and going, no problem here, just take a pill. And, you know, we all know that that's a rabbit hole for disaster because One pill has 17 other side effects that you're going to have to take 17 other pills to get rid of. And it's just, it's a. It's a cycle of band aids that don't stick, essentially. But props to you for going, I hate this because a lot of people won't do that. They won't take the hard route or even the understanding of like, this isn't making me feel better right now, so it must not be working. Yes, this isn't making me feel better right now. And that's why it's working. It's uncomfortable because it's working.
[15:51] Georgia: I think one of the biggest things for me was that I just had complete trust and faith in what I was doing, the healing.
[15:59] Karianne: And you saw enough improvement that you were like, I just have to trust them.
[16:02] Georgia: And I, I made it my full time job. Yeah, my healing. So from the moment that I woke up to the moment that I went to sleep, I had this huge whiteboard in my bedroom.
[16:14] Karianne: Okay.
[16:15] Georgia: And I wrote down all the supplements that I needed to do. There was like little therapies that I did. So like I said, I got the power plate in the sauna and then there was a few other therapies that we got at home to kind of help my healing. While I was.
[16:29] Karianne: Do you remember what they were?
[16:30] Georgia: One was called a beamer. And then there was like a biomat. So it was kind of. It felt really nice because it warmed up and you laid on it and it was like crystals or gems. I think they were.
[16:41] Karianne: And is it like an amethyst maybe? I think they probably have a lot of different crystal frequencies.
[16:50] Georgia: It was just really relaxing to lay on the.
[16:52] Karianne: You're like, I like this one, which is so cool.
[16:56] Georgia: You said a beam, a beamer. So what did that.
[16:59] Karianne: What was that?
[17:01] Georgia: It was to move around. I don't know. I think again, the lymphatics.
[17:06] Karianne: But what, like, was it a mat.
[17:09] Georgia: That you Lay on. And it kind of sends, like, I guess, pulses through it.
[17:14] Karianne: Okay, so it was like a frequency thing?
[17:16] Georgia: Yeah, I guess. I don't really know. I just.
[17:19] Karianne: You were like, the doctor told me to do it, and so I'm doing.
[17:21] Georgia: It, and here I am, and I just noticed improvement. I know that it always helps with my jet lag. So the tricks, like, when I go home. If I go home and do that, my jet lag is nowhere near as bad as if I didn't do it.
[17:36] Karianne: So is it, like, does it vibrate? Does it move?
[17:39] Georgia: It doesn't move, but I think there's, like, pulses in it sometimes. When I did it, I actually haven't done it in a long time because it's in Australia, but I would, like, feel tingling.
[17:52] Karianne: It must have been a frequency thing.
[17:53] Georgia: Yeah, it was. It was cool. I don't. Don't know what it did, but it helps.
[17:57] Karianne: I'm just saying. Okay. Okay.
[17:59] Georgia: So I would.
[18:00] Karianne: I want the weeds. I want, like, the particulars.
[18:03] Georgia: So on the whiteboard, I'd have those therapies done. Like Epsom salt baths, like, anything that I could do to help things keep moving. And then there was, like, little, like, neurological exercises that I would do. There was, like, little emotional work that I do, books that I had to read on. Goals that I set. Like, goals for me was one of the biggest things. And I think, as you were saying, like, I had nine years where I didn't have any control in my life, and I didn't have any independence. Everything was just taken. And no matter what I did, I couldn't stop it. Now I have a control issue.
[18:48] Karianne: I have something that can be done. I'm not just sitting here suffering as a victim. I get to take my life back. And it's now in my hands because.
[18:56] Georgia: I never wanted to be the victim. And I never always just wanted.
[19:00] Karianne: You wanted solutions. Just no one was giving them tips.
[19:02] Georgia: Yes. And I always wanted there to be a purpose from this. Like, I just. I just needed that. And so goals for me, like, I remember that first trip. I set goals, and I said to Dr. Hart, like, when I come back, I think it was like, five months later or something, I'm going to achieve these goals. And this is the straight A student coming out, Right? Like, I'm the competitive person. I'm competitive. Like, I want to win. So that was me coming out, but it was also. It gave me so much determination to tackle my healing journey with everything I had and purpose and commitment. And I would have done that anyway. But like, it just gave me purpose to get out of bed every single day. And these goals, I saw a sheet of them the other day. They came up in my memories. They were tiny to anybody else, but with where I was at that point, they were massive. It was like Rita being able to hold my newborn nephew. So he was. I think he must have been, like, 4 months old at the time. And after he was a couple of weeks old, I couldn't hold him because I was too weak. And, like, my body just did not have the strength to hold him. And that took, like, a bit longer to be able to do that. But I was doing something. I would set these goals, and then I would break them down into tiny little goals. So it would be. I wanted to walk upstairs, and I hadn't been able to do that because stairs are hard, and my brain just. It just couldn't do it. And so I would get out of bed every day, and there was. We have two deck stairs at the house. And I would get up, and I started by just walking one stair, and then I'd sit down for ages, and then I would do two stairs. And then I Slowly, over the month, I would. I'd be. I would do it, and it was, this isn't going to be great in a podcast, but I would do, like, one foot on the step and then the next foot on the step and then go up and up. So I wasn't walking normally, but I was doing it. And, like, I just remember being able to walk stairs properly for the first time. Like, that was huge to me. Like, that felt like I was getting parts of my life back slowly. But to anybody else, it's like you're walking steps, but it was so big. And every time I achieved one of these goals and I would set heaps, it would be like, I got this little chair and we, like I said, we live on a farm, so we've got a bit of a driveway. And I would get this chair and I would walk. So there's fences up the driveway, like, for the sheep and cattle. And I would walk one fence post more a day, and then I would put the chair there and I'd leave it, and I'd sit there and then I'd walk back. And so I started off walking at such a small distance, Right. But by the end of it, I was walking a couple of miles and not having payback. And, like, that was the biggest thing for years. The smallest little thing, like getting up to get a drink of water would set me back in bed for Ages. Like any small activity that I did would set me into bed for weeks or months afterwards, like, in agony. So to not have that payback. So every single time I achieved one of these goals, it felt like I was getting, one, control back in my life. Two, I was getting my life back. And three, it was confirmation that I was in fact healing. Because when you are living your symptoms every day, I think sometimes the patient can be the last to feel the healing. Like, your loved ones see things before you feel them. Like, I remember my, my sister was like talking to me on FaceTime and she's just like, you just. You're different. Like something's changed. I didn't feel that because I was still in a lot of pain.
[23:18] Karianne: But like, when your pain's at a 20 and now it's at an 18, it's like, yeah, so I'm still in a lot of pain. But other people can notice it.
[23:27] Georgia: They can notice it. Like there was all these small things that other people noticed. But by achieving my goals, it was just confirmation to me, okay, I am healing because I'm able to do this well.
[23:40] Karianne: And setting those tiny bite sized goals is so important because would you keep going if your marker was in two years?
[23:50] Georgia: Exactly.
[23:51] Karianne: Right. Like, if you're like, I've spent the last nine years in bed and until I run a marathon, I'm not gonna consider myself healed.
[23:58] Georgia: Exactly.
[23:59] Karianne: Like, are you gonna keep going? Like, you're not gonna notice those little improvements? You're not going to celebrate those milestones when they're milestones when you're coming from death's door to living human again and living and breathing and just functioning on a normal level. Like, if you're not counting those tiny little steps, I think that's. I worked in a chiropractic office for a handful of years, which was so rewarding because we get to see, right? We get to see the patient improve and they don't even realize it. Like, I would see a patient would come in like, hunched, like, hunched over. Right. Can't stand up straight with a walker, taking one step at a time, can barely move. In a month, they're walking in without a walker and sitting down without a problem. And you're like, so how are you doing? And they're like, well, I'm still in a lot of pain. And you're like, do you not see the major improvements that have already happened? But if you're not counting those, those tiny things, then I can see how it would be much harder to keep going.
[25:11] Georgia: Yes.
[25:11] Karianne: Especially when you're doing these therapies that are not necessarily comfortable.
[25:14] Georgia: Yeah. And it was, it was so important to me to try and just focus on this, like, the smaller picture. Because it was extremely overwhelming to, like, look at how sick I was, where I was mentally where I was, you know, all the emotional things that had happened and the treatment that I had received in terms of the emotional treatment, not the physical treatment, it had shaped me so much. And if I sat and looked at how far I had to go to be healthy and to be able to live my life, it was overwhelming, Especially for someone that has bad anxiety.
[25:58] Karianne: Yeah. So like, oh, my gosh.
[26:00] Georgia: Too much. So I had to really focus. I still need to do this better, but just taking it like one step at a time. So by having these goals, the bite sized goals. Bite sized goals that were working towards a bigger goal in the near future, I could focus on that.
[26:20] Karianne: Yeah.
[26:20] Georgia: And it would. And you could achieve it Less overwhelming than being like, okay, I've got maybe seven years until I feel human. Like, no, that's. That's way too far, way too overwhelming. And I think in order to stay so consistent with my healing and my dedication and consistent improvement. Yes. So that was really cool.
[26:46] Karianne: Not. Not I'm super sick or I'm running a marathon, but all the moments that have to happen in between, and they're.
[26:53] Georgia: All so important and such a part of the journey. Like, like I said, I had to walk nine years of being chronically ill to get to my lowest. I have to walk back out that path.
[27:08] Karianne: Yeah. Like, gotta go back the other way.
[27:11] Georgia: Yeah.
[27:12] Karianne: So they did all these detoxing treatments, very much focusing on eliminating the toxins that were obviously overburdening your system and just spiraling on each other and making it worse. And then when you're a little bit. When you have a few too many toxins and then you're so sick and now you have the emotional side of things. Kind of the trauma of being that sick for that long. Right. Like, then that makes it worse.
[27:41] Georgia: Yeah.
[27:41] Karianne: And that adds more burden and that adds more physical ailments. So you started with, it seems like to me, you started with like a toxin overload, essentially. On top of a genetic disposition to not detoxifying well, on top of a traumatic brain injury, which causes swelling in your brain, which so do heavy metals. Right. Like you've got all these things compounding on themselves that are leading to physical manifestations. And now your physical manifestations that no one is able to figure out or help you with. Now you're having emotional trauma on top of that. Besides, not even to mention everyone has physic, has emotional baggage and emotional trauma just from living. Right. Like, we all have it. So you already had a little bit of that, but now you have these physical manifestations. You've got these emotional traumas on top of the physical manifestations. And now the emotional trauma is making the physical manifestation worse. And your physical manifestation. And now you're in the spiral right now. You're in the cycle of just compounding, compounding, compounding more and more on your system. So they're addressing your physical side. You said there was a lot of emotional work done as well. What did that look like? Like, what were the therapies that were used? Was it psychotherapy? Talk therapy? Was it?
[29:10] Georgia: So I did a lot with my doctor, just like talking it through with him. He has different techniques that he was using. I used emotional freedom techniques, tapping a lot. It was more so acknowledging a lot because I. Even today, which seems so weird because I'm studying to be a clinical psychologist, I still try to avoid my emotions.
[29:40] Karianne: That's not that weird though, Georgia, because we all get into industries that make us be able to help ourselves better.
[29:49] Georgia: Yes. So.
[29:51] Karianne: So that's not weird.
[29:51] Georgia: I. I was terrible. I was the worst. I had a psychologist that I was going to. And I gave her nothing. I now sitting at school last year, learning about the difficult patients.
[30:06] Karianne: Yeah, you were.
[30:06] Georgia: That was every single thing they said. I gave her nothing. I had a brick wall up. I had my shields up. I was not letting it in. So for me, my mindset at that time was all of these huge things were happening. Right. Physically, I thought I was going to die. I lost my teenage and twenties. Right.
[30:34] Karianne: Very developmental years. Yeah.
[30:36] Georgia: So people like them, oh, they're the best user for life. And I'm spending them in bed. Like it was. It was a lot. I lost most of my friends. It was just everything lost my independence. So if I, at that point in time, I was just trying to survive. I was just trying to make it to the very next day. Some days I don't know how I was doing that. I would look at a clock and I'd watch the minute tick by and I'd be like, I just survived another minute. And then I would focus on another minute. That was literally where I was for a long time. So I didn't have the capacity at that point to process emotion, deal with how bad everything was.
[31:19] Karianne: Yeah.
[31:19] Georgia: Because I think mentally that would have. I just had to not give up.
[31:26] Karianne: Yeah.
[31:26] Georgia: And If I had have dealt with how bad it really was at that point, it would have been a lot harder to not give up. So where I was at that point, I couldn't. Also, it was depression. You avoid things also. I still do it today, but not.
[31:42] Karianne: A big fan of emotions. Okay.
[31:45] Georgia: So a big part of my healing was actually putting my shield down, acknowledging emotions, acknowledging that. But also I had to find a doctor that I trusted to be able to open up and be like, this happened. This is how I was feeling. This is how terrifying it was like, Right. And that was a big thing. I had lost trust in pretty much everybody, the medical profession, just people in general.
[32:15] Karianne: Right.
[32:16] Georgia: Because that had been destroyed by me for so much. So it was very much a, you have to earn my trust.
[32:23] Karianne: Right.
[32:24] Georgia: And then if you do that, I will try and open up. But I was very lucky with my doctor that I could completely trust him from the first appointment. So I was able to start addressing some of these big things. And the way that I see healing and this is emotional and physical and just healing in general, it's like a big onion, and you have to work through the layers of the onion, and so you work through one. So, for example, for me, age 23 and 18 were my worst years, my most traumatic years, and probably the years that have shaped me the most in who I am and how I react to things. But so, like, for a long time.
[33:09] Karianne: We were just addressing 18 and 23.
[33:12] Georgia: 18 and 23 were coming up, like, constantly and felt like forever. And I was like, is this ever going to end? Am I ever going to get a different year?
[33:21] Karianne: Like, right.
[33:22] Georgia: And then over time, as you do that healing and you work through those things and process those things, you know, age 17 or like, whatever could come up and you could address that.
[33:33] Karianne: So it was really the less traumatic, but still impactful.
[33:37] Georgia: Yes, yes, still traumatic on a level, but not as traumatic. So, like, it was about addressing things, trying to make myself feel safe, to feel those big feelings. And I think that's, you know, something that I'm always working on, trying to not run away from feeling those things. And actually, it is healthy to feel those big things because how you process and you can release it and you can work through it, and it's not having that big impact. Like I said before, I went years, and I can count how many times I cried, and I always felt horrible after crying because, like, I would. I had a couple of people I could trust enough to open up in that regard. And I always felt like the biggest burden Afterwards, because that was what I was told by thousands of people was I was a burden. And so I didn't do it because I didn't want to put more on my loved ones than I was already doing. So that was, like, this fear. So it was like, I need to be safe in my environment to feel what I need to feel. And like I said, I went so long without crying. As a psychology student, I do not recommend that at all. It's very unhealthy.
[35:02] Karianne: Please don't from a wellness standpoint, either. Crying is a great way to get your body out of that, like, stress state. Right. Fight or flight. It's a release, right?
[35:13] Georgia: Yes.
[35:13] Karianne: And when you're releasing, you're not holding on, you're not harboring. It's not causing more problems inside you.
[35:19] Georgia: Yes. And your nervous system needs it.
[35:21] Karianne: Yeah.
[35:22] Georgia: Like, reset goes not in fight or flight. Like, constantly, like.
[35:28] Karianne: Yeah.
[35:28] Georgia: It's so hard. So, yeah, it was a lot. I did, like, a lot of reading on, like, emotional things. I really went deep in, like, the Brene Brown work. She is, like, amazing in vulnerability, shame, fear. Yes. Bess.
[35:46] Karianne: I love that book.
[35:47] Georgia: Me too. Favorite book. So she was so big on that because, I mean, shame and guilt was overwhelming me.
[35:55] Karianne: Yeah.
[35:56] Georgia: Just so.
[35:57] Karianne: A lot of it was reframing with different perspectives and things like that. But what was the energy side of it? What was the. What sets this doctor apart from all the other alternative doctors out there for you?
[36:14] Georgia: It's extremely difficult to explain, and I cannot do justice to what he can do. But it uses a lot of, like, bioresident scanning, biological medicine, functional medicine.
[36:31] Karianne: Um, so essentially, he's, like, keying in. He's tapping into your energetic frequencies. Like, everything is energy. Right. Every illness, symptom issue. Right. Every great thing, every wonderful thing, every thought. Right. Everything is energy.
[36:51] Georgia: Yes.
[36:51] Karianne: So essentially, what he's doing is tapping into your energy, your personal physical and emotional energetic field.
[36:58] Georgia: Yes.
[36:59] Karianne: To kind of direct where the healing goes.
[37:01] Georgia: Yes.
[37:01] Karianne: And, like, where the treatments go.
[37:02] Georgia: Yeah. And to find, like, the root causes to the symptoms and even, like, the emotional side of things. But, you know, you've got a symptom for a reason. There's no. It's not just a fluke that you have a headache or you're vomiting or whatever. There is something causing that. So by using that frequency and bioresident scanning to help try and discover. Okay, so what's the root cause?
[37:32] Karianne: What's the problem?
[37:33] Georgia: What is. Okay, so, yes, I was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome. But what's actually causing that. Like, why is my body in a position that Lyme disease could take over? Why is it in a position where.
[37:46] Karianne: Taking it a step further.
[37:47] Georgia: Yeah, like finding the why behind everything. Because the fact is I got Lyme disease by being bitten by a mosquito. I was with my parents and my siblings, they all got bitten probably by the same mosquito. So why was I the one that got chronic late stage Lyme disease? And they perfectly fine. So it's like finding out what is happening to put your body in a place of vulnerability. So a big factor of this is not treating the symptoms. So I went in with a lot of symptoms, right. And okay, so I have a headache. Well, if you just treat the headache, you're not finding the root cause of what's actually causing the headache, Right. So for me, headache for me is typically I'm in mold, I've got heavy metals. So like if you're treating the mold and the metals over time by addressing the root cause, right, Those headaches, like they fade away, they fade away. It's not a bandaid, you have a headache, let's treat the headache. It's you have a headache, let's find what's causing that. What's causing that.
[39:03] Karianne: And. And so he uses kind of principles of energetic frequency to kind of dial in on that, which is really cool.
[39:10] Georgia: It's amazing. I can, like I said, I cannot do justice. I can't explain it because it is so full on. And I have been a patient of Dr. Hart's for like eight years, I think seven years or something. I still, still cannot explain it, but it is incredible what it can do. And the healing that you can see from that when you, one, trust the treatment but two, also commit and dedicate it completely. Because one of the biggest things that I learnt and that I applied to my own healing is that it's a team effort and you can't just rely. It's not up to the doctor to do it. Like they can do all they're, they are incredible. And they can do all of that. But if you're not doing the work.
[40:02] Karianne: Yourself and it's a team effort.
[40:04] Georgia: Yeah, you have to show up. Like, you have to do.
[40:07] Karianne: It takes a long time, right, like how many sessions with Dr. Hart or like how many, how many times were you treated by Dr. Hart over the course of the last however many years?
[40:17] Georgia: It's been so starting in 2017 and I believe I've been here 10 times from Australia for treatment. So it's a lot, It's a big commitment it's been 100% worth it. The best decision on my life, because I literally went from thinking I was about to die at 24 to being 31 and living in America for a year. I'm stunning psychology to be a clinical psych, hopefully. And I am, like, driving on the wrong side of the road over here. Let me say it. Like, that's weird. And just being able to live my life using the experiences that I've had. And it was not. Like I said, I've been coming here from 2017. I am still working on things. I'm still trying to heal and work through physical things, work through emotional things. Like, it's an ongoing journey.
[41:23] Karianne: It's never done.
[41:24] Georgia: No. And, like.
[41:25] Karianne: But now you're not in a situation where you're. You're not necessarily healing anymore. You're just thriving.
[41:34] Georgia: Yeah.
[41:34] Karianne: It's a matter of wellness. It's a matter of, like, increasing your wellness even more. But you're. Well, you're.
[41:40] Georgia: Yeah, there's still some things like that. Like, heavy metals, for me are a big thing. I do these really weird hiccups.
[41:48] Karianne: Yeah.
[41:48] Georgia: And I think being on a farm all of my life, I have been constantly exposed to chemicals and sprays and fertilizers and pesticides.
[41:59] Karianne: Yeah.
[42:00] Georgia: That just built up in my system to the point where I was just full of heavy metals, and now I need to avoid all of that. Right. But. So I'm still, like, working on that, but it's at the point where I can still be living my life. Despite that. I'm working on those.
[42:18] Karianne: And they addressed EMFs too, with you, too. You have a big EMF, EMFs with you because you have a heavy metal problem. So electromagnetic frequencies that we know heavy metals are a conduit for. I can see that would be a big problem.
[42:33] Georgia: It was so crazy before, I. So when I was going to my chronic fatigue specialist in Australia, he was incredible. But it was so weird because my EMFs were so sensitive that if there was a thunderstorm, like, with lightning, I could feel the lightning go through me every time.
[42:54] Karianne: Oh, God, that sounds miserable.
[42:55] Georgia: It was crazy. I would be in a dark room because, I mean, that's how I spent my years. In a dark room, no light and with the curtains closed. And I could tell you when there was a lightning strike. Like, it was crazy. So getting my EMFs down, like, making sure I was grounding a lot and just trying to lessen the load on my body was a big factor.
[43:22] Karianne: It was so. It was. It took a bunch of trips it was all these different facets of things that people typically. Like, generally don't think about.
[43:34] Georgia: No, no.
[43:35] Karianne: And because if it doesn't affect everybody, then it shouldn't affect somebody. And I think that's like a mindset that people have that makes them discount, like a holistic approach. It's like. Well, it's obviously, it's just. There's something wrong with me. It's like, well, yes, but no.
[43:53] Georgia: It's.
[43:54] Karianne: We all have sensitivities and dispositions to certain things. We're unique beings. We're unique humans. And if you have a hard time detoxing, you're full of heavy metals from things like pesticides and vaccines and toxins and just general illnesses and inflammation. Right. You're full of heavy metals. You add EMFs on top of it. You're gonna be sensitive to the EMFs. If your body is loaded with heavy metals, it's like things compound on each other and it's hard to trace it back.
[44:25] Georgia: Yes. And there was, like, the lime, the mold, like, those parasites, like, so many different factors, like, so many contributing factors to it. And going back to that beaker analogy from earlier, like, it was just so much. And I had to get my toxin overload down.
[44:43] Karianne: And it takes.
[44:44] Georgia: Yeah, definitely. And it was like, a lot of different components put together in terms of healing. So obviously, Dr. Hart was absolutely incredible and doing all his work, but then I was doing, like, emotional things to it. Back home, I was doing infrared saunas every day, Epsom salt baths, the Beamer mat, the power plate. I was exercising to get things moving. I was doing lymphatic massages, chiropractic adjustments. So, like, so many different elements put.
[45:15] Karianne: Together in the right way.
[45:17] Georgia: Yes, definitely. Focusing on, obviously, trying to get these detox pathways open so that my body can actually detox. So it wasn't like it was so many pieces of the puzzle that had to be put together. Together.
[45:32] Karianne: Yeah.
[45:32] Georgia: To be able to see the results.
[45:36] Karianne: And something that's kind of cool that came out of your healing journey. Right. You're now a emotion code practitioner. Body code practitioner.
[45:47] Georgia: Yeah.
[45:48] Karianne: That's something that Dr. Hart recommended to you.
[45:50] Georgia: Yeah. So when Covid happened and I couldn't get over here for a few years, it was just something that was recommended in order to do on myself in order to continue my emotional healing. So it just uses, like, applied kinesiology, muscle testing type thing to ask the subconscious questions because we're all energetic and we live in our conscious mind that really doesn't remember much at all. Whereas our subconscious knows what's happening in your body and why it's happening, holds.
[46:23] Karianne: On to everything when it happens. Everything.
[46:24] Georgia: Like. Yes. So it's using the muscle testing in order to access that and ask questions to determine what's happening and why. So it looks at the emotional side of things, limiting beliefs, but also it does look at the physical side of things like mold and viruses and bacteria and different organs and how they all play a part together. So that was really cool. I started that just for my own healing. But you had to do a course to get certified. And so when I started seeing more results in myself by doing it on my own, I decided to start a little business with it and do those sessions on other people as well. I have taken this year off because I'm traveling and living overseas, but I definitely miss it. And, yes. Getting back.
[47:18] Karianne: Yeah, that's something that you practice in Australia and you can do virtual sessions.
[47:24] Georgia: Yeah, absolutely. Like, a lot of my. So when I was doing it back home, like, a lot of my clients were American, and we were doing it over zoom.
[47:32] Karianne: Yeah.
[47:33] Georgia: Anyway, so I can.
[47:35] Karianne: I can vouch for it. I'm a big fan.
[47:37] Georgia: Thank you.
[47:38] Karianne: I'm a big fan. And essentially. So I just started reading the book because I'm like. Like, no, I, like, love this thing, and I need to know more about it, and I need.
[47:49] Georgia: So interesting.
[47:50] Karianne: And, yeah, I'm fascinated by it. So I'm in the middle of reading the book, and essentially, it's based on the principle that your body keeps score.
[47:58] Georgia: Yes.
[47:59] Karianne: And your subconscious forgets nothing.
[48:03] Georgia: Yes.
[48:04] Karianne: And so a lot of, like, when it comes to the emotion code, if you have, like, really impactful, strong emotions, which we all do in different aspects, different moments, those emotions can get trapped in certain places of the body.
[48:22] Georgia: Correct. Yes.
[48:23] Karianne: And what you do as a practitioner is you clear those.
[48:28] Georgia: Yeah. So it's about energies getting. Bringing up from the subconscious mind to the conscious mind. Because, like I said, your conscious mind doesn't know why it's happening. Right. And by bringing it from the subconscious to the conscious, then your body can process it, release it. And so what I do is trying to help energetically to bring that to the conscious mind. So then your body is releasing it. And I think it's great in that you don't need to relive your trauma.
[48:58] Karianne: Right.
[48:59] Georgia: In order to release it, bringing it.
[49:00] Karianne: To the conscious mind. That doesn't necessarily mean, like, reliving the experience or even knowing what. What it was. No, it's just a matter of, like, hey, we're going to bring this up and now we're going to get rid.
[49:11] Georgia: Of it and release it. Yes. And like, you don't need to even say anything about it, like.
[49:17] Karianne: Yeah.
[49:17] Georgia: And sometimes, you know, patients will feel a bit emotional or they know exactly what it is and other times they don't. And it really doesn't matter either way because your subconscious knows what it is.
[49:29] Karianne: And when you clear it from the subconscious and release it from the subconscious, it's no longer causing harm inside your body.
[49:34] Georgia: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[49:35] Karianne: It's pretty, it's pretty sick.
[49:37] Georgia: It's pretty cool.
[49:37] Karianne: It's pretty sweet.
[49:38] Georgia: It's pretty different. That is pretty cool.
[49:40] Karianne: It's big. I always tell people, I'm like, look, it's. If you're like a. Not a holistic or spiritual minded person, this is gonna sound absolutely insane. Like, but if you are, then you'd be like, totally. That makes sense. Because it's, it's working with the energy of your body.
[49:59] Georgia: Yeah.
[49:59] Karianne: And tapping into the energetic frequency of your body.
[50:02] Georgia: Yes.
[50:03] Karianne: Essentially. And just talking to it, like, hey, what's going on here?
[50:06] Georgia: What? Yeah.
[50:07] Karianne: Because your subconscious knows things that your.
[50:09] Georgia: Conscious mind does not. I mean, we go through things in our life where we either just don't want to deal with and so we suppress it and that's when it becomes trapped. And, and other times you think you're dealing with it, but like, it's still. It's not, it's overwhelming, it gets trapped and then that can over time just manifest into physical symptoms. Anxiety, depression, like so many different things. So it's pretty cool that you can release that and. Yeah. Release the hold that it has.
[50:40] Karianne: Let it go.
[50:41] Georgia: Yes.
[50:42] Karianne: And you don't have to. I think too, one of my favorite things about it is that you don't have to say, like, no, I'm gonna let it go. Right. Like when you feel uncomfortable emotions, you probably go through your own process, right? I do at least. And I'm like, you know what? It's not worth my time.
[51:01] Georgia: I'm just gonna let it go.
[51:03] Karianne: And I say that.
[51:04] Georgia: But you're doing.
[51:06] Karianne: But maybe my emotions are like, I'm not ready.
[51:08] Georgia: Yes, I will be like, yeah, I'm gonna let it go. And then I think about it 1000 more times and I'm like, Georgia, you were meant to let it go fast.
[51:17] Karianne: What happened to the letting it go thing? You don't have to. You don't actually have to. Like the cool thing. The coolest thing is you don't have to actually do anything.
[51:26] Georgia: No, you sit back and relax.
[51:28] Karianne: Yeah. All you have to do is just be present and, like, essentially allow the other person to.
[51:36] Georgia: Yeah.
[51:36] Karianne: And you can do it to yourself, too.
[51:38] Georgia: Yeah.
[51:38] Karianne: I mean, if you really want to go through, like, learning and doing all that. I really like having someone else do it because it's nice. But I am so interested that I'm like, I want to learn more about this. I want to see if I can figure out how to do this, too.
[51:51] Georgia: You know, because you would be amazing.
[51:53] Karianne: It's so. It's so helpful and so healing and so not what anybody else would be addressing.
[52:01] Georgia: No.
[52:02] Karianne: Right.
[52:02] Georgia: And it's crazy. Like, there's limiting beliefs and things like that in there that there's inherited things that you pick up from generations that just get passed along. And like. Like, for me, like, self worth has always been low. And then obviously, with what I went through, like, life experiences made it lower, but then there would be, like, an inherited thing to that. And so it just makes a bit more sense of, like, okay, like, that's why I've always felt that way.
[52:31] Karianne: Or like, well, there's things that can be passed down from generation to generation. Like, things that are just, like, in our, like, ancestral line.
[52:40] Georgia: Yeah.
[52:41] Karianne: And then there's also, like, you know, especially for people like you and I, who are generally very empathic. Right. Like, we suck up and absorb the energy of so many people around us and not even know it.
[52:54] Georgia: Yeah.
[52:55] Karianne: You know, like, have no clue. Like, just be. I'm just feeling this weird feeling, and I can't pinpoint where it's from. It can release that from some stranger.
[53:05] Georgia: In the grocery store that you walked past.
[53:08] Karianne: Some strangers, didn't even talk to people over. I had no clue. You know, like, I don't know. I didn't even talk to that person. But you're sucking up the energies of other people, too, which is totally out of your control. Well, there's ways that we can mediate it, but still, like, you know, having your guard up all the time is not easy. So I. I love that it's just, like, simple and it's a crazy. Like, what do you mean? You're tapping into the subconscious mind? Like, the concept of it sounds, like, so weird, crazy.
[53:41] Georgia: Yes.
[53:41] Karianne: And, like, what are you even saying to me? But, I mean, I can attest that it works amazing. It's worked for so many different things for me. And then I got my mom onto it. It's worked for so many different things for her. We helped Camila with her. She was Having nightmares. Remember that? That was like. It was like weeks of nightmares every single night. Waking up screaming like, night terrors. And I was like, I don't. Georgia, what do you think? What can we do? And, you know, it resolved. So the vast amount of things that it can resolve is just a testament to how impactful our emotions are.
[54:21] Georgia: Yes. They can have such a huge. That's been one of the biggest things I've probably learned is that I never paid enough respect to how important your emotions are. Not just, like, the impact that they can have, but actually needing to address it and like, including that in your healing and making sure that you are dealing with emotions. And obviously I say all of this and then I'm not the greatest myself, but I'm working on it. It's a work in progress. We're all a work in progress. But yes, like, it. It's pretty crazy to me that I went from someone that was so closed off and just could not do emissions brick wall to being like, I want to be a clinical psychologist. This is what I'm working towards. Like, it's not crazy.
[55:07] Karianne: It's perfectly aligned.
[55:09] Georgia: It's using my life experiences to help others, hopefully. So that's amazing. No, it's pretty cool.
[55:17] Karianne: Well, that's awesome. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I know it's probably not easy to relive a lot of that.
[55:23] Georgia: That's okay.
[55:23] Karianne: But we appreciate your v sharing with us. I hope that listeners that might be struggling with their own battles, whether it be chronic illness or trauma or emotional stuff, can just gain a sense of hope that there are other options out there besides, like, mainstream medical help. And that's not to say that mainstream medical help does not have its place. It kept you alive for get me Alive. But, you know, I think some people think, like, oh, if you believe in, like, more holistic approaches, then you don't believe in mainstream medical. And like, the reality of the situation is that mainstream medical world did not serve you and didn't. Wasn't able to help you.
[56:15] Georgia: No.
[56:16] Karianne: And that's. That's not uncommon, you know, and for people who don't just want to take a pill for X, Y or Z, you know, for your situation, there were no pills.
[56:25] Georgia: No.
[56:26] Karianne: There were no pharmaceutical options to even offer you. And so their hands were kind of tied. Not that they were not good doctors, not that they didn't want to help, but they just didn't have the tools.
[56:37] Georgia: Yes.
[56:37] Karianne: So I think it's really awesome and really helpful for us to be able to Offer just alternative options. Like, there are people with other tools.
[56:48] Georgia: Yeah, definitely.
[56:48] Karianne: That might be able to actually serve the root cause of what's going on with your kids.
[56:53] Georgia: Look outside the square.
[56:54] Karianne: Look outside the, you know, pharmaceutical lens, because when it comes to the mainstream medical world, what they can do is limited. They can either do a surgery. Right. Cut you open and take things out, or repair things, which is wonderful. It's needed sometimes. Or they can write a prescription, and that's kind of it. A lot of times dependent on, you know, their. Their scope of practice. But there are other options out there, even if they sound crazy, even if you don't really understand the ins and outs of how they work. Just when you're. If you're in a state of trauma or chronic illness. Like, I think it's enough that they do work.
[57:43] Georgia: Yes. And that they can be open to it. Yeah. The hope is the big thing. Like. Yeah. For so many years, I. I didn't have that. And, like, it's not a way to live. Like, I know I made a thing where I made an effort every few months to have something to look forward to. And that might be go out for 30 minutes with my family for a dinner. Right. I'd be in a wheelchair. I'd be in bed for weeks afterwards in more excruciating pain than normal. But I needed that to have hope and to have something to live for. So I think, like, hope is so big in our lives, we need to have it. Speaking for someone that, like, literally, I banned myself from having hope because I deal with the heartbreak. But that's no way of, like, living. You need to live your life, and there is hope, and miracles can happen. That I learned with hard work and. And putting it in. Anything can happen, and you don't know. You don't know what's gonna happen.
[58:50] Karianne: Yeah.
[58:51] Georgia: You don't know where your life is gonna take you.
[58:53] Karianne: And being able to get through those really, really tough years got you to the point where you did find healing.
[59:00] Georgia: Yes.
[59:00] Karianne: You are in an amazing spot now, and you're helping other people and kind of transmuting your really tough experience, your challenges, into a way to help others, which I think is really.
[59:14] Georgia: Use it for purpose.
[59:15] Karianne: Got it. It's fueling your drive.
[59:17] Georgia: Yes.
[59:19] Karianne: Thank you for taking the time, Georgia. It's been an absolute pleasure. If you are interested in more information on what Georgia does as far as emotional code, body code, things like that, or you are in the Nashville area and interested in learning more about her doctor, that really helped her. Dr. Hart I will go ahead in the show notes and link places where you can find the both of them for more information. Until next time. I love you. Ciao.
