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Welcome back Flyers. Nittigay fans to
getting gritty with it with your host or
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How you doing. I'm doing well, you're eve. We're getting closer
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and closer to the draft, so
I'm excited as we kind of inch up
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and there's gonna be a lot more
to talk about obviously with the draft uffcoming,
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any potential moves the Flyers might make, and then free agency around the
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corner as well. So we're getting
into that fun period of the off season,
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which is great. Yeah, we're
inching towards the actual interesting part of
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the off season and getting close.
Right now, we're like kind of in
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that lull we talked about it last
week, you know, not too much
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to talk about, so we're digging
a little bit. But we do have
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some news and want not to talk
about, sob al right, Okay,
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We have some news. I guess
it's all just topical stuff today.
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We'll talk about the drafts a little
bit, and we'll talk about some prospect
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stuff and then one with just current
playoffs about what's going on with the Oilers
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and the Panthers. So first piece
of news, So Carter Hart appeared in
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court, or at least his lawyer
appeared in court criminal court. All we
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know so far. Judging from that, I'll leave facility to kind of read
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out the tweet that we had from
Rick west Head, but that there won't
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be a date set before August thirteenth, and it looks like it might be
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a twenty twenty five. I've late
twenty twenty five criminal or day, which
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we kind of suspected. We thought
maybe as late as twenty twenty six,
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but it looks like this is going
to drag on for I don't know what
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seems like way too long, but
at least another year at this point.
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Bacillity, Yeah, exactly. So, just as being somebody from Canada,
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I can say that our court system
really backlogged. So it's not surprising to
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me, as I've said on the
show in the past, that you know,
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we might not even get a trial
to late twenty twenty five. I
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wouldn't be surprised if it's even twenty
twenty six. Like any initial prediction they
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get usually tack on a couple of
months, so we'll see where it goes.
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But obviously not the best of news
for you know, trying to kind
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of get this out of the way
and for the flyers to figure out maybe
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what's going on with, you know, the property technically that they will still
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hold the rights to in Carter Heart
as they move ahead. So just to
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read Rick west Head's tweet, this
is what he reported. Lawyers for the
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five former twenty eighteen World Juniors hockey
players charged with sexual assault appeared virtually in
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a London court this morning. A
trial date won't be set before August thirteenth,
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when the case will be discussed in
assignment court. A criminal lawyer who
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works in London and has no ties
to the case told Rick Westhead that because
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of court backlogs, it's doubtful the
Hockey Canada trial will begin before late April
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twenty twenty five at the earliest.
Lawyers have also told Westthead the trial is
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expected to take at least two months
once it does get started. Dylan Dubey,
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Alex Foremanton, Carter Hart, Michael
McLeod and Cal Foot were charged with
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sexual assault in January. As it
pertains to the open case so not too
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much news in terms of okay,
like what's actually happening with the case,
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but apparently there should be something scheduled
in the near future here likely late August.
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It looks like, Yeah, I
mean, that's why I haven't really
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been paying too close attention to this. I don't think you much news,
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right, Yeah, that's the thing. It's like with these criminal things.
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Now. I think there is a
a deadline set by the NHL, and
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I think I think the NHL has
put it on the teams to initiate if
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they're going to retain their rights by
offering them a contract. But what team
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is going to offer these guys a
contract with the criminal core case hearings a
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year away, So I don't know
what's going to happen with the rights of
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the players involved, Like we don't
know what's going to go on with Carter
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Hart if he is and again,
they have to be acquitted. Let's make
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that clear. If they're found guilty, nobody's getting a contract. But if
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they are right exactly if they are
acquitted, I think there will be conversations
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of contract, whether the Flyers will
bring back Carter Hart. I don't know.
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I think it kind of depends.
Yeah, I mean, I think
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it depends what goes on with Airson
and what goes on with Fetotov and what
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happens with Coolsov. And again we're
still getting where of the Colesov is a
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maybe, but I don't I don't
buy I don't really buy that either.
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So I think it depends what happens
here. But look, let's be honest.
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The talent that is Carter Hart,
you know, at that prime age
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will be what twenty seven, around
twenty seven years twenty eight? Yeah,
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yeah, when when he potentially could
come back to the NHL, I think
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there would be discussions. I don't
think no team would be interested. I
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think the Flyers would consider it if
they're looking for a goaltender at the time.
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But again, it depends on all
depends on the court cases. If
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they're found guilty, nobody's gonna touch
these players. And that's just the reality
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what we're looking at. No,
Yeah, exactly, there's not really too
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much to add. Right. Officially, the teams technically still hold their rights,
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but once that, you know,
July first date hits, if they're
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not qualified, obviously they would become
UFAs. So I would suxpect that's gonna
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happen, just based on everything that's
going on, and no team's going to
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really want to associate themselves, but
we'll obviously see but I imagine that's going
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to be the likeliest scenario. Yeah, yeah, I think they're all going
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to become free agents and look,
maybe there'll be some kind of right respective
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done afterwards about who owns their rights
and you know, if the player wants
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to come back. But I imagine
this is where like relationships kind of play
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in. Like if the Flyers have
a good relationship with the Carter Hart camp,
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he's found not guilty and there's an
opening in net, you know,
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I think there can be a conversation
had there. But most of these guys
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are not coming back, yeah,
you know, for the foreseeable future right
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now. So I don't think that
any team's gonna be jumping to sign any
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one of them. And it's a
shame because the whole thing is obviously potentially
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just a bad blemish on the NHL
to just an awful situation altogether, depending
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on on the levels of truth and
you know, guilt involved. So it's
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really just a lose lose for everybody. And you know, I'm really too
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much to say, and I don't
want to comment until you know the court
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system kind of you know, does
its thing, and you know, the
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cases are put out there, so
you know, again, if they're found
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guil, I don't think any of
us are gonna want any of these players
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on their team regardless. You know, it's not like anybody's gonna be like,
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oh, well, you know,
he gets out of jail in a
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in a year, so maybe we'll
say no. I think at that point
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the conversation ends and these guys go
play overseas. It's a career killer in
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North America. Yeah, absolutely,
So hopefully you know there's good news whatever
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that would be, depending on what
side of this issue you're on. But
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you know, as of right now, I'm kind of just staying out of
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it. You know, my assumption
is Carter Hart's not part of this team,
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and you know, the goalies we
have here are goalies, so there's
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plenty of talent around the world to
find other players. So you know,
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I'm not going to be sitting here
resting worried about one guy. I tend
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to not do that anyway, with
trades and other stuff like that, Like
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Cutter got to me is like goodbye, you know what I mean, Like
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you just can't you could always replace
talent in a sports environment, in a
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sports world. So that's what the
Flyers are going to have to do in
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this situation, which they've already done, you know, bring over a Fedotava
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Colasov. And I think the team
is aware of that as well, that
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they just have to move forward and
kind of put this behind them until you
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know, any new news really surfaces. So like, yeah, like if
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they find out the players were acquitted, then don't worry about it up until
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then. They're they're probably not caring, right, It's just a distraction,
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and it's something you can't even strategize
for because well, we don't know where
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they stand on the issue. Too. They do over a relationship with Carter
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Hart, so I'm sure they're not
like, screw this guy. Yeah,
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But at the same time, if
he's guilty, they're not going to be
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like, oh, it's okay,
buddy, we'll give you a con No,
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it's you gotta reput your sow and
if you did something disgusting, you
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know you're gonna have to pay for
it percent, right, Like obviously if
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that's the case, I mean all
of them need to be, you know,
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charged with with what happened here in
the Yeah, exactly. I think
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it's just like a situation for the
Flyers where they can't really control anything any
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so why worry about it until there
is something that pertains to us eventually again.
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And that's that's what I would say
to anybody listening, is don't worry
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about this, like, not on
a on a team based level. If
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you're worried about it from like a
cultural level. That's one thing. You
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know, I'm not gonna tell people
what to care about, but you know,
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if you're worried about it from a
roster spot, don't because it's not
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The Flyers likely aren't as well.
So at this point, yeah, they're
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trying to move forward without a doubt. Okay, next piece of news.
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It's like, man, it's shitty
news all around. Uh. The second
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piece of news is we finally got
confirmation that Jamie Drysdale did have surgery back
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in April, which is I guess
somewhat good news because that means he had
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surgery right after the season ended.
They didn't, Yeah, they didn't.
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Wait. Now, that's the abdominal
core groin area surgery. I believe it
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was abdominal course, yeah, lore
body or core muscle area, core muscle.
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Yeah. Okay, so they it's
not going to affect him, But
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like, let's be honest and everybody
listening to this, I assume you're a
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hardcore fan. You've seen this happen
before. This will affect Jamie Drysdale to
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a degree. I don't know to
what degree, could be ten percent,
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twenty percent, fifty percent, but
we've seen it affect every single player.
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So those are the those of you
were expecting to have Jamie Drivesdale kind of
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come out the gate, you know, full board, one hundred percent healthy
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and you know, kicking ass,
taking names, and you know, back
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to his you know, his prime
skating. That's probably not going to be
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the case, could it. Sure, it's possible. I just went to
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bet on that, and uh,
I would imagine that. You know,
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we're gonna be looking at him in
a reduced role to some degree from his
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actual potential. So I'm sure a
lot of people are gonna want to judge
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his season based off of that first
half that he has next year, But
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it's gonna take at least half the
season to get this kid back to where
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he was prior to the injury or
prior to the surgery. Having said that,
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you know, even injured, he
didn't look skating wise, didn't look
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bad. So maybe it won't affect
him too much just because he's such an
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elite skater. But you know,
the reality is is that you know he's
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gonna be somewhat hampered, and we
should be ready for that. Yeah,
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I think that's a natural thing to
expect. I mean, if you have
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been watching the Flyers for years at
this point, or even just players around
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the NHL have had this surgery in
general, typically it's about a six month
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time period before they're really back to
themselves. That's usually how it goes,
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Like six months from the surgery,
Like I remember Claude Drue obviously similar sports
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hernia corn muscle surgery. You know, the season after that, I think
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he only had like sixty eight or
something points. Everybody wanted to trade him,
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thought he was cooked. Kind of
shows how much it can affect a
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player in their skating, especially if
it's if the skating aspect of a player's
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game is a real forefront to their
scale and how they kind of create offense
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and things like that. Also,
another example, Kevin Hayes, right,
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he came back from that or injury
look noticeably slower until about halfway through the
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season you kind of saw him pick
things back up right, and a lot
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of it with that injury, at
least a lot of players and interviews that
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I've read in the past, they
say it's like almost working and building through
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like the scar tissue that comes from
the surgery, and like essentially it hurts
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almost like while you're skating and while
you know you came back, and some
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players will get almost concerned, like
it should it be feeling this way?
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Should it be feeling this way?
And doctor will say it's natural because you're
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working through that you know, extra
scar tissue that you're trying to kind of
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you know, burn off from the
surgery. So I think in a sense
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like Dryzale is definitely gonna be impacted. Could just just look at all the
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other players that were really good players
as well who also had similar struggles.
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The only thing though, that I
will caveat is if he did get the
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you know, the surgery on April
eighteenth, I believe that was the exact
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date. You do have like all
of May, all of June, all
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of July, all of August,
all September. That's almost about five six
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months. So I wonder with like
those other surgeries like Drew had, Hayes
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had, maybe it was later in
the summer. It was exactly so,
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which one frustrated me at the time
when it happened, because why not do
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it as early as possible where it
looks like the Brier regime tried that.
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So he is probably gonna come back
still impacted, I would imagine, but
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since there's you know, more time
from April to training camp, hopefully he
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can kind of work through some of
those struggles a little more and maybe instead
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of you know, being impacted for
a six months into the season, he's
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impacted about three months. Right then
you see him like November December kind of
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get back on the horse and look
look more like himself. Yeah. I
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also, uh, there was an
there was an interview and like an article
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put out by Adam Kimmelman who covers
the flyers surrounding this article or not surrounding
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the article surrounding uh, you know, this Drysdale injury and the surgery.
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So I just wanted to read a
quote from Danny Breer essentially regarding that so
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Brier said Drysdell got checked after the
season and there's a significant injury there that
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he needed surgery on, and this
was set at the twenty twenty four NHL
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Scouting combine. Brier also said drysdeals
surgery was not related to his previous shoulder
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injury and that the procedure would allow
the defensive to better showcase his skill set.
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And Brier also said he wanted to
play games. He's had a lot
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of injuries to deal with the last
few years, so he wanted to play.
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So I give him a lot of
credit to play through that. He
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showed a lot of character leadership the
way he handled it. But he'll be
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in a much better position next season
and should be a lot freer to play.
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There's a couple other interesting notes as
well. Brier also mentioned about Razis
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verstall Line in that he's also proceeding
well in his reabilitation from surgery that was
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April eighteenth as well to repair a
ruptured triceps tendon and should be ready for
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training camp. I was supposed to
be about a three month recovery and then
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a final injury. Note is Brier
wasn't sure about the future of for Ryan
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Johansson. He stated he's going through
some kind of rehab. Brier claims he
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had injection, and Johansson claims he
had a hip injury, and from their
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Brier states at this point, honestly, I'm not too sure where it's at.
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We're not sure if he's going to
need surgery again or if he's going
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to be ready for camp. We
really don't know at this point. And
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apparently whatever happens with Johansson will not
affect any decision to buy out cam Atkinson
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or Cal Peterson if they decide to
do so. So that was just some
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interesting injury tidbits from that art.
Well, I'm glad you added that in
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there. Actually I was about I
was gonna say that, like everyone should
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recognize that surgery always has a cost, you know, Like I know everybody
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jumps to surgery, but I understand
why most people try to put it off
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and try to heal without it.
It's not always one hundred percent necessary,
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but like, it takes time to
recover from a lot of these things,
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and you know, hopefully Rasmus will
be back, you know, kind of
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back to form, and luckily it
wasn't a lower body injury that he has
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to like skate through. You know, it's an upper body injury, still
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gonna be potential problems there. Yeah, you can't lift and things like that.
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But yeah, it's a big it's
a big gap on our right side
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without the those two guys. So
hopefully they're healthy. As far as Johansson
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goes, I mean, I would
imagine he's probably an lt I R himself
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for an entire season. That's what
it seems like, right, Like,
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it seems like Joe Hanson is like, yeah, like I'm hurt, and
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then the Flags are like, okay, really you are, then like come
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in and will evaluate you, and
he's like, well, I have this
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injury. It seems like there's just
such a disconnect between his camp and the
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Flyers. Like I would never expect
Johansson to suit up one game for the
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I would suspect that he's gonna be
on the IR you know, probably the
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entire season until his contract expires and
then from there. Now, maybe he
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was injured because again, this was
a high pretty high end player. He
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was never like a star or you
know, he had some good seasons.
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He was definitely just drafted to be
a star, right but he's definitely he
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was definitely a top six forward.
I guess it would explain the drop off
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in production if he was, you
know, kind of playing through an injury
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that wasn't going away, and then
maybe he was just like, well,
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I don't want to play in Philadelphia
anyway, and I could use the year
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off type of thing to see if
this heels up. Yeah, because he's
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only thirty one, right, Like
that would be pretty early for him to
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retire. Albeit, I mean,
he got drafted in twenty ten and then
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played in twenty eleven and has been
the league ever since, so it's been
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like thirteen years. One of those
guys that entered the league early. But
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it is strange to me because,
like, you know, he played with
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Colorado sixty three games up until he
got traded and had thirteen goals, and
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that's actually like been almost one of
his best goal totals in a couple of
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years. So it's kind of strange
that he just you know, comes to
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the Flags as magically injured. But
yeah, when you add the fact that
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the Flyers said they had no interest
of having him in the NHL, you
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know what I mean, Like there's
something we're not being told about up front.
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Clearly some character issues. I mean, we heard about stuff. This
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is why I was like so down
on Cutter go Tate. When I heard,
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I was like, oh, I
was like, we've seen this type
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of attitude before. Doesn't usually pan
out well for the player when they're so
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public about like their character issues,
you know, about their attitude and this
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stuff, like they don't usually turn
into be the superstar that they're talked about
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to be. Now, maybe Goate
will be still. I mean, the
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kid's got a lot of talent,
so I'm not gonna diminish his talent,
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but you're gonna have problems with other
people around the league. And it seems
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like that's where Johanson is. And
maybe, you know, maybe he was
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dealing with an injury and wanted to
prove something or whatever. But just when
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you throw the fact the Flyers didn't
even again, we like had a bear
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bones team, you know, offense, you know, just with injuries at
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one point, and we still didn't
call this guy up right, any interest
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of even having him around the squad, you know, like he wasn't even
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and that was publicly stated by Brier, like yeah, he's not He's not
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coming to this team, you know, like he never once said, you
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know, we'll look to move him, but if we can't, we'll rotate
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him in or at least have you
don't leadership, right, I don't foresee
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him ever being part of this team. So it's just like, yeah,
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you look at the verbiage and you're
like read between the lines a little bit.
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There's something wrong with this. Of
course, probably he likely probably doesn't
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want to be in Philadelphia, and
I mean huge reason could be the relationship
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with John Tortorella that kind of exploded, you know, between him and Tortorella
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back in Johanson's Columbus days and kind
of led to him being traded eventually to
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Nashville for Seth Jones there. So
I imagine there's something there that probably happened
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between the two that's irreparable. And
then also, I mean there's probably just
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a sour taste in Johansson's mouth from
that situation, so he's probably just like
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fuck this, right, yeah,
Well, like you know, like a
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lot of players, so there's obviously
the Babcock thing where Babcock calls out players
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and he's just a huge douchebag,
right, And then you want to throw
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that title on Tortorella because you're like, oh man, it's Johansson and Dubois
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and Dubinski. But you look at
these guys, none of them have hit
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their potential, not like none of
them. So it's almost like I have
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a hard time believing Tortorella is a
bad guy like Babcock. It seems to
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me more he's just super blunt and
he hurt. Yeah, and that he's
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just like straight up like you are
not doing what you need to do to
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hit your potential. And this guy's
he seems to be right. How many
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players is he called out in some
capacity and he worked wrong? Well,
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I'm saying he was wrong about them? Oh yeah, I mean it's I
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can't really bring up Kevin Hayes liked
the world on fire in Saint Louis No.
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And again I give grace to Kevin
Hayes. He went through a lot
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of shit, you know, and
I do believe he's a good guy.
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I don't think Kevin Hayes a bad
dude. I don't think that was like
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a personality thing. But we watched
him on the ice like he was,
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you know, not playing well.
Yeah, not not just not playing well,
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I mean he wasn't moving his feet. He wasn't really not to say
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he wasn't trying, but it didn't
seem like he was putting in maximum effort,
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which is what John Tortorella is obviously
going to be looking for, right.
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I just think for Tortorella and some
of these types of players, like
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it's just him being blunt for the
sake of, you know, being blunt
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because he wants to help his team. I don't think. Yeah, but
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it's also like trying to help the
player in a sense. I think the
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players take it like a wrong way, like he's trying to make you better
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because he wants you to succeed and
live up to that potential. He's not
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calling you out because like he doesn't
like you or something. It's likely because
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he sees it they're is more and
he knows that you're not giving, you
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know, that extra percentage to kind
of get to that place. So it's
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actually more like to try to benefit
the player, I would, I would
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imagine, but some guys don't seem
to take it that way. Maybe it's
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a delivery, but I just think
Tortorella is a blunt guy, like you
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said, and you know, obviously
some people cannot take that approach in certain
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senses that they need to be coddled
or they don't they're not able to kind
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of, you know, take it
that way and like turn it into a
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positive, even though if it might
not even be a negative to begin with.
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So, yeah, like my dad
was really blunt. He was suiting.
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My dad was never mean, I
realize, especially now as an adult,
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I understood my father was never mean
to me. If anything, he
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was too nice to me with the
way I grew up. But he was
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super blunt, like he would have
to be honest. Sometimes he would just
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straight up tell me like you're not
working hard enough, or you didn't do
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enough, or what like you're making
excuses what or what have you done?
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You know. It was always that
attitude that was brought to me. So
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I think that's why I like Tortorella's
so much, because I'm so used to
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that attitude of like, yeah,
like blunt, like just to the face,
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you're not working hard enough, you
didn't put in the extra effort,
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you didn't do this, you're not
fast enough whatever. It's like when you
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hear you're not fast enough, that
means you focus extra on skating or whatever.
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You know, you you lose weight
because you're out of shape, you
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know, which we've seen with some
NHL players. That's what projected Jake Vorceek's
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career forward was getting introd Well.
I agree, and I also think too
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that like it's comes from a place
of Tortorella not only wanting to like push
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the player for them to get better, but it's also like a character test
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in a sense like Okay, if
I present this challenge and I challenge this
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guy, how is he going to
respond to the challenge? And I think
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it's he used it as a multifaceted
tool where like, Okay, I can
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push my player to become better and
a better version of himself, and I
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can also see if this guy isn't
meant to be here in this kind of
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environment that I'm trying to build.
Right, So I think he used it
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probably in two ways, and it
could be beneficial in both aspects, because
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yeah, you can almost weed out
guys that, hey, like, we
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don't want to build a team around
this guy. He's never gonna look at
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himself in the mirror and really blame
himself or take the onus on himself.
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I think you want guys Ultimately,
if you're trying to build a successful team,
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especially hockey, you want guys that
are gonna be able to take that
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accountability, put the onus on themselves, look at themselves in the mirror and
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say, you know what, like
maybe we lost that position or maybe we
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didn't execute that play because I could
have done something better, versus blaming other
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players or blaming your teammates. That's
how you get, you know, things
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to kind of not function smoothly.
So yeah, and from what I understand,
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that's why von Provov is no longer
here. Yeah, and he had
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that attitude, which is a shame
because I loved Provov as a player,
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and you know, he had so
much potential. Still I would say he
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still does. But if what you
know, what we're hearing is true about
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him, that would hold him back. And you know, to loop it
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back to the guys that we were
initially talking about, Drysdale and Risus the
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line and you know one that does
not seem to be the case from the
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little we've seen at Drysdale at all. His character seems to be phenomenal.
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And then Ristal Lineen, I mean, he's like I wish I had John
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Torderella earlier. Well, they broke
his they broke his game, like when
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he first joined the team. They
broke his game down completely, and like,
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think about being a veteran in the
league for six seven seas at that
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point. He could have took that
completely the wrong way and been like,
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well, like, I've been in
the league for these many years, I'm
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not going to change my entire game
because he thinks so. But he did
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it. And I also, once
again speaks to your point of good character
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for Risto, right, And I
think that's why you haven't heard outside of
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like Twitter people and us saying it, you haven't heard rampant rumors about Ristal
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lining because I think his attitude is
actually probably pretty great. So yeah,
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I don't think they're like unless you're
like and if you look at the free
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agency market, like I know a
lot of people want to be down on
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Risto, but his dollar value where
it's ending up now, if he is
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the player that he wonts when he's
healthy, assuming that he will be,
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it's not a bad deal. In
that it's actually not a bad deal anymore.
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And there's gonna be defencemen of his
quality. We're going to be getting
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more money. I would say defensemen
who were probably not even as good as
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him gonna be getting more money than
him just being you know, big,
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sizeable defense. When we were talking
about Zadorov, who has done less in
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his career than Risk the Line,
and he's looking for six plus million and
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he's mainly been a third pair of
guy, maybe like number four type guy.
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So yeah, it's definitely it's definitely
interesting. Like I do think that
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you know, risk of Linen specifically, like is a guy respected in that
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locker room? Is a guy that
you know, the teammates really like and
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reason being I mean, he's a
guy that stands up for his teammates,
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right He's willing to fight if needed, willing to go to bat, you
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know, for his team. So
guys in the locker room that doesn't go
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unnoticed, right, Like, like
guys really appreciate that. So I think
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for Risk the Line, and that's
probably why, unless you know the Flyers
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are getting fair value or able to
unload the full contract, they probably won't
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look to really move him. But
yeah, even like we've been talking about,
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you know, offline in the past, obviously that I can't see anybody
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really want to trade for risk to
line and unless he's healthy for a couple
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months first, it just doesn't make
a lot of sense from any other team's
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perspective. Why take on five million
from a guy that you quite frankly don't
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know if he's gonna come back and
uh be healthy the same Yeah, it'd
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be the same player. I think
if if Risto is moved, it's going
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to be a trade deadline potential next
offseason, but we might not even be
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talking about moving him at that point. We will see what this defense shapes
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up like, and again we know
the Flyers are not going to be It's
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funny. I'm listening to other podcasts
and they're all saying what we've been talking
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about for a year, which is
if you just look at the salary cap,
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if you look at cap friendly and
we'll talk about that in a little
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bit, If you look at cap
friendly, and if you look at where
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the team is cap wise, you
know, you can see what their window
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is, you can see what their
plan is. If you read their financials
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and you look at where they are, it's it's not this year, like
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this year is not the year to
go out and add a bunch of players
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and to be desperately trying to trade
guys to do that all that Fletcher stuff
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where he was kind of flailing his
arms as a GM like it's this is
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actually the year to kind of continue
to do what you did last year and
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vet out and hopefully get some access
for the guys that you do move out
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because you play well as a team, so their value isn't rock bottom,
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you know. I think we're building
towards that, which, let's get this
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goes right into the next topic.
So this was something I actually tweeted.
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I saw this on the NHL Networks
Instagram and I tweeted it out, and
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I did not expect to get you
know, like three hundred likes on this
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thing. One. I don't tweet
out much, so I don't really have
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much of a following on there,
and I don't really spend much time on
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Twitter except for just like glazing for
you know, news periodically. The algorithm
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like that one. Yeah, I
was I was actually surprise. I did
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not post it thinking it would get
a bunch of buzz, but I was
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getting a bunch of comments and retweets
and all this stuff, and it was
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really pertaining to the Florida Panthers.
And and look, we'll get into the
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actual competition of the game itself.
But you know, we talk about building
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a winner. You know, I've
said this. I don't think there's one
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way of doing it. The reality
is you just need an entire good team.
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You don't need the best player in
the league. You need guys who
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can play against the best player.
I say this every single time, play
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against the best players in the league. And they're all different ways along the
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road to build your contender. You
know, it's not going to be just
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I'm going to tank for five years
and I'm going to magically end up at
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the top of the standings Like that
doesn't work either. You have to make
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the right movie. Like even the
Edmonton Oilers where they are today, that
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was a long process to get there, and they made. They are a
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substantially better team today than they were
like two years into McDavid being on their
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team with David and dry title right
with the trade signings, not just drafting
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right. So so well, I'm
sorry, I'll open up to you in
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a minute. Here. Let me
just go through this actual post. So
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what I did is I posted the
NHL Networks, I guess image of the
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Florida Panthers roster construction and where these
players that you know that they kind of
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built this team off of came from. And so the drafted on the team.
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There are three names Barkov, k
Blad, and Lundel. Three guys
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that they drafted via trade Matthew the
Chuck, Sam Bennett at two, Lister
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Rhinan, Sam Reinhardt, Vladimir Tarasenko, Kyle of Poso, Steven Lorenz,
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Brandon Montur. Then free agency wise
Carter ver Hagy, Sergey Barovsky, Evan
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Rodriguez, Nick Cousins, Ryan Lamberg, Kevin Stenley, Nico Mikola, Oliver
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Ekman, Larson, Dimitri Koulikov,
Anthony Stolars and then the waiver claim Gustave
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Forsling, who we know what kind
of season he's having. He's been great
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for them. Well it they obviously
didn't do that overnight, right, those
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are what for and they were competitive
making though right exactly every year they kind
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of inched closer to getting to the
form that they're in that they pretty much
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had for the past couple of years, right, and even that that Chuck
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trade, like they were already really
good team and they made that trade for
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the chuck like it just Zito was
just their GM is just slowly chipping away
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at this image that he has of
where he wants his team to be,
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and slowly acquiring players and trying it
through every which way, which is really
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the main ways of doing it,
which is trade, free agency, uh
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and waiver wire and then the draft
as well. Right, And they got
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lucky in the draft where they got
some good players. They traded those players
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away for other assets or opportunities in
our case, they trade away oh and
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tip it right, they trade away
Jonathan Huberdough Like they got value from building
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players internally trading them away. But
primarily if you look at a majority of
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this team, it's been trades from
accumulating assets right, which is where the
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Flyers are, free agency, which
is where the Flyers will be in a
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year, right, and then a
waiverclaim, which is lucky as hell to
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find a guy that goose up Forsling. So what are your thoughts there,
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Dide Yeah, I think it's a
really interesting discussion piece just in terms of
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like how you can build a contender
in the NHL and a Stanley Cup contender
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that is a team like the Panthers. It just shows that there isn't one
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way of doing it. Like every
team, every fan base always loves to
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scream, while we're super bad,
we need that high in talent. Let's
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just tank, tank, tank,
and then we're you know, we're gonna
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turn around and a record amount of
time. But as we know, like
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you look at certain teams that have
done that for years and years, and
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you know, I've mainly tried to
use the draft and not really parlay to
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any of those draft picks or any
of those assets into other players who trade
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or even look really to a through
free agency. Doesn't always work like that,
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And a lot of the times that
losing culture can actually negatively impact you
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even more than selecting like really high
end guys through the draft, because once
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you get those players, you're putting
them into a culture that kind of isn't
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supporting losing. But like you're almost
in a rut where like, okay,
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there's nobody on this team that can
kind of get us out of this.
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There's nobody here that as a winner
because we stripped it so bare bones that
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you know, we're not aware of
like what a winning culture really is and
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how to kind of get out of
this losing kind of tail spin. So
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that's why I think it's really interesting, and I think a lot of teams,
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right, you can build even more
through the draft, Like look at
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Colorado, a lot, a lot
more of their team is drafted and they
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have a really good team. I
think what it really is for roster construction,
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it's just as a GM, you
got to just be on the pulse
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and unders stand the chemistry of your
own team and what supplements what and not
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be afraid really to make moves right. And I think that's a huge thing
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with Florida, Like they traded Jonathan
Huberto coming off one hundred point season.
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Most gms would not and you know
Mackenzie Leiger as well, who was a
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top to top four defenseman for them. Most gems are not gonna have the
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balls to trade their one hundred point
player and number two defenseman in a trade.
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Albeit you're getting Matthew could chuck back, but most gyms would just say,
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hey, like, let's try it
again next year and go at it
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with the same team. Why why
you know, change something that's not working.
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But a lot of the time when
that stagnation is what can cause a
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team to not really improve and not
be able to kind of get to that
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next level. And I think the
fact that Zito is willing to make those
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types of changes even shows the team
that, like, we're striving for excellence
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here and if we're not hitting that, then we're gonna make changes because we
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want to win, right And ultimately, if you keep things status quo,
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sometimes you're not lending to that you
know, winning mentality, because sometimes changes
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need to happen. And I really
do think too that, at least for
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the construction, like I was saying, going back to chemistry, it's almost
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like a peel away process where like
the Panthers, you know, they went
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to the playoffs a couple of years
ago and lost in that series to Tampa,
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right, and it was like a
real battle of a series. But
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after that two seasons, they subtracted
certain players, they added different players.
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They realized, hey, like this
mix is good, but it's not good
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enough to beat Tampa, the Cup
champs or the Randy Cup champs, so
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we need to change some stuff.
And they did. And then last season
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it's the same kind of deal,
right, Like, they make it to
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the Cup finals, but they don't
go status quo. They still, you
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know, make some changes to their
team, right, Like they get a
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Tarasenko in there, they get an
Opposo, you know, they add an
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Eckman Larson for example, and they're
not keeping things status quo right, where
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like a lot of teams will get
to that place. They'll get to that
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you know, Stanley Cup final or
conference final and say, well, we're
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just on the brink, and you
know, we don't need to remove anything,
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but sometimes you do need some to
do need to subtract something that of
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talent and to add you know,
another type of skill set maybe that might
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mesh better in that system with your
team, and that will push you over.
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Sometimes it could just be a matter
of guys, you know, not
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the fact they're not good players,
but they might not mesh well together.
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I think that goes back to like
the draft point that I was making.
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You can draft a team are really
good players, and on the team that
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you drafted them from they could have
been really great and top scores and whatever.
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It doesn't necessarily mean when you put
them together that that team's gonna be
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able to mesh right. And I
think that's why building through the draft can
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be tough because you see all these
you know, points on paper of these
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prospects, But once you put the
guys together in the room, sometimes the
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chemistry doesn't always mesh. And I
think it takes like an active GM to
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kind of realize that and make the
necessary trades to kind of get a room
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to mesh together. Yeah, I
think so. I think you have to
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just use everything available at your disposal. And like, even though one right
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way, right right exactly, Like, how can you say that the Vegas
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Goal Knights were built through tanking one
last year? Right? Colorado Avalanche they
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had two different rebuilds in there.
I would say they got somewhat lucky as
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well with the players that they drafted. They made the right picks obviously,
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and got elite players in there.
Tampa Bay Lightning were a combination of trades
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and drafting, right, So drafting
was huge there. Saint Louis, what
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was that, you know, Washington
Capitals, after how many years of being
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competitive in twenty eighteen, what was
that they found the right mix right right
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exactly? Pittsburgh Penguins, Again,
if you have the best player in the
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league, sure, you know,
I agree, there's a caveat there.
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If you can manage to find the
top player in the NHL sure, but
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even the Chicago Blackhawks, who were
competitive for like an entire year ten years
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that they were like on the top
of their game. Yes, they did
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draft Patrick Kane and Jonathan Tave Jonathan
Tave's was not one of the best players
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in the world. Like, he
was a really good player, but he
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wasn't like on pack Kyne's level of
eliteness. He was a two way you
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know, type of player. Overall
player. Yeah, overall type of player.
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The majority of that team was like
built through free agency trades over years.
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Like they didn't draft Patrick Sharp,
right, like the draft Mary and
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Holsa Yeah, right, exactly.
They built the team periodically. And that's
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even the La Kings, right,
Like they traded for a bunch of flyers
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players to build that team. Like, uh, it's just it's going to
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be a process that you you literally
have to chip away out every year.
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And if you have the luxury of
getting Connor Bedard and building around him,
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great, that's that's an amazing first
step, right, but you still have
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so much work to do to become
an actual contender. Like if you draft
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Mitchkov, that's awesome, we have
Mitchkov. You still have to have the
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team around him and the assets around
to make that move when it becomes available
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to get Jack Eichel when he's available, right, Like, when that guy
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becomes available, you go get him
in free agency, you go get him
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via trade, right. That's that's
how the Flyers have to think over the
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next few years. So that's why
I don't like the gold line talk because
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people don't really know when this team
will be competitive because it depends on how
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the assets materialize and what we do
with them in the process. We have
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one huge offseason, we could be
one of the better teams in the league.
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All of a sudden, we might
still not be. Like a guaranteed
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contender, you know, might take
two, three, four or five years
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of competing for a Stanley Cup.
But you slowly chip away at it every
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year, you slowly modify your team
until you get them back to contention.
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That was the luxury that the Vegas
Knights had is that nobody did an expansion
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draft. The GMS didn't know what
they were doing. You can see that
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with Seattle how that panned out very
differently, and there was just a plethora
609
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:50.320
of good players that you normally would
go out and draft or try to find
610
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.679
through free agency you try to find
through trade, and they were just available
611
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.239
to these guys, and they just
built a squad that could win, you
612
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.360
know, and they went the first
year, right, and he still again
613
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.239
the first year, right, they
lost in the finals. But those additions
614
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.599
exactly different changes. I think one
thing too, to point out that's interesting
615
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:14.079
to me is like, and uh, I think a lot of people probably
616
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:19.159
have the same thoughts is Florida to
one of their main things is taking chances
617
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.760
on guys that might have underwhelmed in
other spots, right, And I think
618
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.400
that's a huge thing. Like look
at Cardiff or Hagen, right, he
619
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:28.559
used to be on the Tampa Bay
Light names. He was a throwaway for
620
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.079
them, and then look at look
at you know the impact he has on
621
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:35.440
Florida. That's there, Jonathan marsh
is so right, Yeah, exactly exactly
622
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:37.119
essentially that they gave away. They
look at a Foresling or even look at
623
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:42.519
a Sam Bennett like Bennett wasn't or
maybe Owen Tippett. Yeah potentially, but
624
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.519
like look at Bennett even right,
like he was having a decent career on
625
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:49.400
Calgary, but but it was really
underwhelming for where he got drafted and then
626
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.519
he goes to Florida and really finds
a resurgence in his career. So I
627
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.840
think it's too just being mindful of
just because this player might have not performed
628
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.320
here. It's almost like the way
you build your team, right, Like
629
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.800
just because one guy in perform here, maybe it's just the circumstances he was
630
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:06.199
in. And when you bring him
into your team and surround him in a
631
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:09.679
better environment and maybe something that might
benefit his skill set more, for example,
632
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:14.559
maybe they will flourish. So I
think taking chances on guys like that
633
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.480
too, that might be underwhelming.
That's that's a good thing to look at.
634
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:20.719
Like I think at least something I
like from the Flyers and to kind
635
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.199
of you know, put a ball
on it and kind of add a flyer's
636
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.719
perspective. Brier and the staff,
like every time I've heard them talk,
637
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:29.400
every time i've heard them, you
know, think about, Okay, what
638
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.199
are we trying to do to improve
the team. Like they're always saying we're
639
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:36.360
open to all moves or open to
all right, you know ideas. And
640
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.400
I think that's that's really the mindset
you have to have, right, Like
641
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.800
anything could come your way, could
come to Brier's desk, you know tomorrow
642
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.679
morning, for example, and it
could be some trade or some sort of
643
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.280
you know, move that you never
even thought of, but it could be
644
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:52.519
something that really reinvigorates or revitalizes the
team or adds a really different aspect.
645
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.079
So I think, just as a
manager, especially in professional sports, that's
646
00:42:55.079 --> 00:43:00.519
such a like an aspect of such
a business that's like always moving, is
647
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.760
never really staying stagnant. You just
have to always be aware that, hey,
648
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:07.079
like there's always something out there that
couldn't prove my team. I got
649
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:08.960
to stay open to it, right, Like, you can't have biases in
650
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:13.039
terms of that, and you already
see that in what they've done with the
651
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.880
team. Like, yes, they
they they didn't want to trade Cutter got
652
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:21.920
but they made the trade aggressively when
they had the opportunity. They got Drysdale
653
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:23.880
in here, right, they went
out and they found a Ryan Paling,
654
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:29.239
who a bunch of teams passed around
and now probably most teams wish they had
655
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.800
a Ryan Paling in their bottom six, right, Like they didn't give up
656
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:35.760
on Scott Law and but like,
here's their opportunity with some of these assets
657
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.840
over the next couple of years that
we might see some changes. And that's
658
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:43.719
why I wanted to revisit the Travis
Connectney trading conversation because it's like, I
659
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.440
believe Connectney should be part of the
solution here. I don't. I'm not
660
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:51.559
scared to re sign him, but
if there is an opportunity out there that
661
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.760
we would not be aware of,
we have to be open to it always
662
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:58.119
because we're looking to build the team
in the right way. And if it
663
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.000
I'm not obsessed with rags, but
if it's something come back, Like I
664
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:04.880
didn't want to move claud Drew because
I thought he deserved the respect of being
665
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.519
a franchise player. But did we
get the return and this is a shout
666
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.679
out to Chuck Fletcher, do we
get the return that helped reboost our rebuild
667
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.039
here? Yeah? Right? Like
that might be you might look back at
668
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:21.039
this pick that the Flyers make at
thirty thirty one, thirty two, right,
669
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.320
assuming thirty two at this point,
right, and that ends up a
670
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:27.360
h tip it, yeah, plus
tip it. I mean that's why I
671
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.559
would like to revisit the Carter Richard's
trades and like, yeah, while we
672
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.360
lost, because I mean, everybody
kind of won except for Columbus and that
673
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.679
in those deals, the Flyer's got
all of a return for those players,
674
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.960
like enough to rebuild a franchise.
Yeah, and La wins the Cup,
675
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:46.519
so so they're happy, right,
So it all depends like there's no one
676
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:51.320
way of reacting to things, and
all these people keep screaming like, oh
677
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.360
I don't like this, like just
tank though I'm seeing less of that,
678
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.039
to be honest with you, than
I was. I think a lot more
679
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.840
people are buying into that this is
a proces and as long as you trust
680
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.559
the people in charge of it,
and I do trust Andy Brire and Keith
681
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.960
Jones from what I've seen so far, I feel like that's really what counts
682
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.800
is that when those opportunities open up, when those draft picks are available,
683
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.159
when that free agent is out there, when that waiverclaim comes up, that
684
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:22.280
you have the savvy team that knows
to jump on them, you know,
685
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.400
and again that you're not focused on, oh, well, this player is
686
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.480
better than the player on the other
team. You're just focused on building an
687
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.960
entire squad of good players. That's
it. Good to great, and do
688
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:37.719
not be mistaken, you need great
players on your team to win a cup.
689
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.480
That is, without a doubt you
cannot win a Cup without elite players
690
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:44.840
on your team, but you usually
need a few of them, right,
691
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.719
So like Travis Connectney, while I
think he's elite, there's only one guy,
692
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:54.480
you know, so you know all
that plays into the role. And
693
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.320
yeah, you have something you want
to say, silly, Yeah, So
694
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:00.599
I just had some I think I
know what you're talking about. Yeah,
695
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:05.719
I had some us just just on
the salary cap, like from a flyer's
696
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:07.400
perspective, So I just wanted to
mention, I think you know something that
697
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:14.599
everybody would be interested in. So
the NHL salary cap officially will increase by
698
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:19.079
four point five million to eighty eight
million dollars. And with that jump,
699
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:24.159
the Flyers will have approximately eight hundred
and three thousand dollars of cap space and
700
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:30.480
up to seven point three million with
LTIR factored in. So you know,
701
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:36.119
the jump definitely is gonna gonna help
the Flyers and there's lots of ltr our
702
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.239
room to work with. So CAP's
officially going up. Is it only seven
703
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:42.559
No, I'm sorry to cut you
off, but it's only seven million.
704
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.280
It should be a lot more than
that, right, because of I guess
705
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.280
it depends on who they LTI are
not, yeah, exactly on who on
706
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:53.480
who it is, and then the
Joehansson stuff factors in. Actually Johansson and
707
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:59.119
Ryan Ellis combined is like ten million. Yeah, so I think just with
708
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.360
Alis, just with Alice technically would
be like seven point three I believe.
709
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.159
But then if you ad Johansson on
that, once they get the clarity,
710
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.880
that's where you get the extra.
Yeah, and then and again they'll forget
711
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:13.519
guys. We have what close of
five million dollars in dead buyout space one
712
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:17.400
year left on di'angelo, and this
is why I don't Yeah, that's why
713
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:21.079
I don't think they're gonna be doing
any more buyouts. I think they're gonna
714
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.880
just eat the year. You know, fine, potentially try to trade some
715
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:28.559
of these guys fifty retained for the
year, like Atkinson, if they can
716
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.559
try to move him from fifty percent
retained, I think it makes sense.
717
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.599
Yeah, yeah, I think they
I think they waited out. It's possible
718
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.519
they buy out Atkinson, but I
definitely don't think they're buying out Peterson,
719
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:42.159
like yeah, I mean, because
that recapture's not worth it, right,
720
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.199
you might as well just eat the
one year. Then you're done. With
721
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.239
it, right, whereas Atkinson,
I think it would only be like a
722
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:52.639
million points something as the buyout,
but over three years, yeah yeah,
723
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:59.039
or something like that, yeah exactly. I think with Atkinson you might as
724
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:00.639
well to just bite the bullet and
kind of play with the final year.
725
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:05.039
Though. I do think for Cam
like, if the Flyers eat enough,
726
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:08.800
maybe they can find some like team, like maybe a team like a Utah.
727
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:12.760
I think it depends on how he
comes in next year. If he
728
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.800
has like a good start to the
season, I think it's a lot more
729
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:20.320
tenable for a team to take him
for half the year or whatever, like
730
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:23.920
a trade deadline. Yeah yeah,
but if he's playing well, you know,
731
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.280
right now, I don't know exactly
where he fits on this team,
732
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.239
especially with the way he was playing, which is why. Yeah, but
733
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:36.239
I really think that it's it's just
best to suffer through it. It sucks
734
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.599
it almost it sucks to say out
loud. To suffer through it for one
735
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:45.039
more year and do not hamper your
cap next year. You already have Hayes
736
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:46.840
at three point five million on your
cap next year, right, You're about
737
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:52.800
to lose all these older players.
The LTI rs are about to come off,
738
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:54.880
right, Johansson's going to be gone, Peterson's going to be gone.
739
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.719
Ryan Els, I still think has
two years left, maybe even believe so
740
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.199
maybe two or three. Yeah,
it might be even three. I'll check
741
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:09.440
it up on punk pediah And uh, you know, like I just feel
742
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:15.239
like it's best to just stay patient, stay with the course, don't panic
743
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.440
and try to get competitive, just
be like, we're gonna eat it for
744
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:22.039
one more year. This is a
rebuild, right they stated that, So
745
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.800
rebuild would be you know, we're
gonna sit with this contract that we don't
746
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:29.440
want here, but we know it's
gonna be gone. You know, you
747
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:34.800
know, you open yourself up after
that, right because basically after the next
748
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.599
season, you're gonna get a ton
a ton of cap space that's potentially,
749
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.280
uh you know, could be used
to make additions, even different types of
750
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.360
trades. So and once you have
that cap flexibility, a lot of moves
751
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.920
can open up, right depending on
who's on the move player wise. So
752
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.679
next year right now, without the
cap going up, and I don't even
753
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.400
think it's listed on punk pedia yet
officially that the cap has even gone up
754
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:00.760
for this year, because it says
they're in the negative. They're stating thirty
755
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:06.880
one point five million dollars of projected
cap space for the Flyers, and that's
756
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.239
without this increase, so it's probably
closer to thirty five million of project and
757
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:15.320
this is without resigning players that need
to be resigned, So it won't won't
758
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.360
be the money though. Yeah,
and the following year in twenty six twenty
759
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.280
seven, forty eight point seven million. Now, again it won't stay that
760
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:28.360
way, you know, but it
shows that it jumps that much over this
761
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.719
one year, so you can tell
this one year is like and that's almost
762
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.360
like if Mitch cob doesn't end up
coming over this year and he comes next
763
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:40.719
year, fine, you know,
it sucks for us, but as far
764
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.719
as like a plan, you can
around him. Yeah, I mean,
765
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.559
and he's a year older. You
know, he's still going to have like
766
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:52.079
a three point five million dollar cap
hit regardless of what his initial cap hit
767
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.519
will be because of signing bonuses.
So you know, that's a substantial amount
768
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.639
of money. So let's just say
Flyers will have about twenty million in cap
769
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:05.039
space the following year. We can
confidently say that that is substantial. That
770
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.679
is, and that's without the cap
going up again, right, which are
771
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.239
well, a year to year here, Right, So it's most like you're
772
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:16.360
gonna be around twenty five million with
players signed with connect me resigning with the
773
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:20.440
players getting their extension. You can
do a lot with that money, right,
774
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.880
And you know you're bringing a really
elite potential talent like mitchkov that could
775
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.119
draw you know, interest from other
players. I might want to play with
776
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:29.880
him. So, right, it's
a good situation to lend yourself into.
777
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:34.239
And why subtract from that cap space
when you don't have to? When you
778
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.880
probably know, okay, you moving
in n Atkinson or not moving, but
779
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.880
you buying out Nakazin, you buying
out a Peterson? Is that extra money
780
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:45.639
really gonna benefit benefit you that much
this season? Like, it doesn't really
781
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.239
make sense from a roster building perspective, so you may as well wait,
782
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.400
right, I would say the caveat
would be if there is a player,
783
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.880
let's just say, who's the top
free agent? Not stampcoast, like a
784
00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:00.599
younger free agent? Is there anybody, like let's go like Tarvinen or something.
785
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:05.719
I don't know what's his name from
Florida? Oh my god, Ryan
786
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:07.039
Hart? Right, Yeah, there
we go. Let's just say this is
787
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:12.559
completely hypothetical. This is not happening. Let's just say he wants to be
788
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:16.360
in Philadelphia, like that's where he
wants to be. He'll even sign here
789
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:20.639
for let's say nine and a half
million, right, So it's a reasonable
790
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:22.559
cap hit for a guy who just
put up fifty goals. You're like,
791
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:27.840
Okay, yes, maybe then you
buy it. You're like, Okay,
792
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.679
we have an opportunity to add this
top end guy here, and all of
793
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:35.239
a sudden, we're gonna be a
more competitive team immediately. Maybe then we
794
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.400
consider a buyout for one of these
players, right, because it'll give us
795
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:42.360
the money we need to inject the
guy in currently. But we know the
796
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.079
Flowers aren't doing any of that,
right, Yeah, So we don't need
797
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.880
to worry about that because that's not
happening anyway. Right, And Ryan Hart's
798
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.519
not gonna want to come here because
we're not good enough to attract the top
799
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.280
free agents yet unless mitchkov comes here, which I could see some players being
800
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.719
drawn to that. You know,
I think for the most part, most
801
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:02.880
veterans are not going to really care
that are you know, on the second
802
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.519
half of their career or towards their
last four or five years, they're they're
803
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:13.119
not gonna be interested in coming here
if they're like a big money player,
804
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.119
you know, well, yeah,
they're gonna be looking to either you know,
805
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:17.840
out of Stanley Cup to the resume
if they haven't, or they're gonna
806
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:22.440
be looking at like maximum dollars.
Right. Well, doesn't this show kind
807
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:27.000
of like not Florida's process exactly?
Right? But it shows the process working
808
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.320
in action? Right? What do
you have available to you? The draft
809
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:37.119
and minor free agent signings, waiver
pickups do you have or trades? Right?
810
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:38.840
So those are the four options you
have. But what are you really
811
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:43.719
limited by these these money restrictions?
Right? So you have to get super
812
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.559
creative. Look for Ryan Palings,
look for Garrett Hathaways. Look for these
813
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:52.639
guys to kind of make you more
competitive culture wise, like Florida, Right,
814
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:54.960
you're looking for those golden nuggets.
Hopefully you find when you have one
815
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:59.559
more year until this cap opens up, and then you can go out and
816
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:04.320
get a guy that you truly believe
in if he's even available at that time,
817
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.320
because it might be the following year. So you have to really be
818
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.719
patient and not hamper your cap situation
because you want to be competitive right now,
819
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:15.039
and I feel like, this is
what really sunk Fletchers. For whatever
820
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.880
reason he spent. He spent a
lot, he spent when he didn't have
821
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:22.039
it to spend, you know,
and he was the team now in a
822
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.360
second well, and we weren't good
enough. Well, I guess the argument.
823
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:29.039
We had one great season there,
but we weren't good enough to be
824
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:34.199
like, oh, we're a guaranteed
Stanley Cup contender every year. We have
825
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.760
our core down, they're all,
you know, fully developed. We were
826
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:42.639
really at that stage. So like
he kind of overbought when it wasn't the
827
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.639
right move. If he was more
patient, he probably wouldn't have sunk himself
828
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.960
so hard. And the risk of
line in trade is pretty big proof of
829
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.920
that. It was like, we
probably needed that mid first round pick,
830
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:55.719
that number, I think it was
thirteenth overall in the draft, more than
831
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.400
we needed rist the line and at
the stage we were And it seems like
832
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:04.039
the Flyers are are assessing the situation
a lot better, and I think that's
833
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:07.039
what's gonna help us get through This
is a little more patience for at least
834
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:12.719
another year until you see this team
get substantially better because they have to clear
835
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:16.400
out cap space and it seems like
it's happening naturally already. And if they
836
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:21.320
really go out and they bring in
a big name player before they're ready or
837
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.360
whatever, it's gonna hamper them even
more because it's going to show that they
838
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:27.119
need buyouts. They're gonna have to
trade assets to get rid of money,
839
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.519
and none of that will help us
get to where we really want to in
840
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.960
the proper way. That'll be like
overreaching, right, like spending money in
841
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.719
your bank account that you really shouldn't
be spending and then you look back at
842
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.559
your bank account and go, oh, a lot of good. Yeah,
843
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.880
that was a tough month. You
know, I had some fun, but
844
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.000
you know I'm broke now, right, Like that's what Fletcher did to us,
845
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:51.000
and I don't feel like the Flyers
are doing that. And the reason
846
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.679
I think that image appealed to so
many people because I think it kind of
847
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:58.840
brought hope that oh, well,
like we don't have to listen to the
848
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:04.039
tank crowd, because there's multiple ways
of doing it, and there's a pathway
849
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:08.480
that you can see of actual improvement. Point to Florida and say look at
850
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:13.199
this, point to Vegas, even
point to Colorado, like they drafted a
851
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:16.159
bit more. But a lot of
their significant you know, moves came through
852
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:22.159
trades like Valeria Nachushkin huge part of
their Cup run, like they signed they
853
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.719
you know, they did not draft
him. So yeah, you know,
854
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.760
it's not always through the draft you
got you got to have your big player.
855
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.840
Sometimes through the draft, like look
at Florida at Barkov number one center,
856
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.599
ck Plaid number one defenseman. Usually
those type of pieces you might get
857
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.039
through the draft. But to supplement
and to find the right guy to supplement,
858
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:43.599
it might be other avenues. Right. Let's be honest here though,
859
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.199
and XBLO is what twenty eight I
think right now? Yep, if we
860
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:52.159
rewind four years, how many people
had Keblad as a top ten defenseman in
861
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:54.400
the NHL. I mean, I
don't know how many people. I always
862
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:58.480
thought he was a really good defenseman
even four years ago. I don't know
863
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:01.840
about top ten, but top twenty. Yeah, because like a look at
864
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:07.440
his points, Like he doesn't have
any season where he's ever under twenty points.
865
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:09.360
So well, but okay, but
twenty points is to people a third
866
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:15.280
pairing defenseman, right fairly? Yeah
my point. I always have been high
867
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:16.840
on that Blad. This is not
me diminishing him at all. My point
868
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:22.159
is the perception around him was not
where it is today. You know,
869
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.639
what I'm saying is that it took
time to build this team together for and
870
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:30.199
look at perception around Sanheim. I'm
not saying Sandheim is that blad, but
871
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:35.400
in the perception around actually shout out
to high and wide. Because we were
872
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.559
talking about this in our in our
chat with Jamie, is that you know,
873
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:42.320
he put out a poll of what
would you rather have Zegris or York?
874
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:46.880
And I thought it was really interesting
that York won pretty handily won that
875
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:51.000
that pole that he put out there. Yeah, and it's like, well,
876
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.400
did you think when we drafted Cam
York, which is what I was
877
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:57.599
saying to people, like did you
think you'd be this high on Cam York
878
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:00.760
or were you just disappointed with Cole
call Field. It's like I think people
879
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.760
just you have to let time kind
of you have to hope and it's key
880
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:08.199
though, and it sucks their development, right, Yeah, but it sucks.
881
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:12.719
It's that's not a selling point to
a fan who's investing money in their
882
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:17.639
time patience. Yeah, I get
that, but that is the reality.
883
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:23.760
You know, so like have your
have things you know, measured internally accordingly,
884
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:28.000
because that is what you're gonna have
to go through for this. And
885
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:32.280
I imagine we're in another year here
of this removal tweaking, and I think
886
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:37.559
most people listen to this podcast degree
that we're not going to see a substantial
887
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.119
move until next year. But it's
laid out for you in the financials and
888
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:45.800
if you spend time on puck Media
you will see that, oh definitely.
889
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:49.960
And that is a perfect segue in
our next topic, which is cat Friendly
890
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:53.440
is going away. After the draft
and after the opening of free agency,
891
00:58:53.519 --> 00:59:02.400
the Washington Capitals have officially purchased the
it's crazy to say cap Friendly as an
892
00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:07.760
internal tool. They will be bringing
that website in house. That is pretty
893
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:10.159
upsetting to me because I'm on there
all the time and I really use the
894
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:15.480
site. However, there is puck
Pedia and punk Pedia actually reached out to
895
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.599
me a few years ago, and
now I feel kind of bad about it.
896
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.199
It should build more of a relationship
to them, but they have us
897
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:28.199
listed on their page. We are
one of the Philadelphia Flyer media resources listed
898
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.440
on there, so that is pretty
cool. But get used to it.
899
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:34.440
I mean, it's so far,
you know, I'm not really seeing anything
900
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:37.039
lacking. I did love the armchair
GM stuff. I don't I don't even
901
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:42.400
check to see if they have that
on here. I'm sure they'll have more.
902
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:45.280
Yeah, But like you figured now
they're gonna be like the main kind
903
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:51.199
of competitor for this. They're gonna
probably ramp up and realize ye user base
904
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:53.760
is gonna go way up. Yeah. So, like I saw people even
905
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:57.880
mentioned online like maybe now is the
opportunity to start a news site. So
906
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:00.440
I'm sure there's gonna be other people
that might start a site as well.
907
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.719
It's kind of similar. My thoughts
on it is like, at least I
908
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:06.239
was really surprised because I use cap
friendly a ton, so it kind of
909
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:07.360
sucks that now it's going to go
dark and you can't really use it.
910
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:10.039
But puck pedia is a good resource
as well, and I've used it in
911
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:15.960
the past two But basically, like
my thoughts is, either the capitals wanted
912
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:20.280
to acquire all the data associated with
cap friendly and make sure all the other
913
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.760
teams could no longer use it,
which is possible, or maybe they wanted
914
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:30.119
to hire some of the cap friendly
team and then also also use the infrastructure
915
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:34.320
of the site as well. Right
internally, like you were saying, and
916
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.039
this is kind of their way of
doing that. But I'm interested, like
917
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.159
the capitals don't really put it like
a press release or at a press conference
918
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:45.199
or really the idea. So I
listened to see this is what I heard
919
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:49.440
from Charlie O'Connor, so I'll give
him credit on here because from what I
920
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:53.159
understand, this is what Elliott Friedman
was talking about. That it was discovered
921
01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:58.760
because teams were trying to renew their
So there's a they have like a different
922
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:00.480
they don't they have like a public
model for us to use, and then
923
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:05.400
they have like the business model which
you can actually like partner with cap friendly
924
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:09.679
interesting and get their resources internally,
which is kind of pathetic. Not that
925
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:15.039
cap friendly is pathetics pathetic that there
is no resource available to NHL teams too.
926
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:17.960
Yeah, that's funny to think about
it, that they were trying to
927
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:23.000
renew and found out that they couldn't
renew beyond and that's how Elliott Freeman found
928
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:28.360
out that they couldn't renew beyond the
draft and free agency, and that they
929
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:32.119
were going to finish out their agreement
with the teams. The NHL teams now
930
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:37.880
and then the Caps are going to
get internally for themselves. But I hope
931
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.280
that this actually is kind of a
wake up call to NHL teams, to
932
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:46.159
the NHL is like there is a
huge demand for this resource, you know,
933
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:50.599
not only just for us, but
for the teams in the NHL.
934
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:53.360
There has to be a dedicated resource
for them, for one and for us
935
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:58.039
there will Now there's puck Pedia.
Who's going to be the leader and we'll
936
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:01.440
shout them out here every single time
now because I want them to grow.
937
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:05.880
But you know that this is in
high demand, Like this is something we
938
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:08.400
this type of service, Yes,
yeah, of course. No, it
939
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:13.760
is kind of weird that, you
know, NHL teams don't have their own
940
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:17.280
sort of like algorithm or some sort
of software theirs. Each team has their
941
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:22.239
own solution. So someone going to
cap Friendly, some have their own,
942
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:24.880
yeah, exactly. So like I
mean, maybe this is going to start
943
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:29.519
other teams kind of focusing in on
that more and kind of trying to build
944
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:31.079
that out more in how so,
I guess we'll see the fun part of
945
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:34.320
it. For me, at least, the fun part about the acquisition is
946
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.800
you have the Capitals buying cap Friendly, so they're kind of adding to their
947
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:46.079
capitals friendly, So yeah, that's
kind of a bummer. But also,
948
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:50.360
you know, congrats to those guys
and getting a big payout and uh,
949
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:54.400
you know, getting the recognition and
shout out to Pump Media because they're going
950
01:02:54.480 --> 01:03:01.079
to be our voice now. And
this all seems to be pretty topical stuff.
951
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:06.800
I don't know how I managed to
do this, but GM voting just
952
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:12.320
want to talk about it real quick. So there was GM voting around from
953
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:16.320
the media for GM of the Year, and Danny Brier managed to get one
954
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:22.320
vote for GM of the Year,
which I think is kind of well deserved.
955
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:24.320
I think if the team produced better
on the ice, like I think
956
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:29.360
if they made the playoffs, I
think he probably would have got more votes.
957
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.159
I don't think he deserves GM of
the Year just because there are teams
958
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:37.639
that were more successful this year than
the Flyers, but in the little that
959
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:42.119
he has done so far, and
we obviously have been kind of raving about
960
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:49.039
the Flyers patients and patients yet aggressive
nature at the exact same time, he's
961
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:52.159
had a lot of stuff to do
and he seems to have I don't want
962
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:54.039
to say ace them, but he
seems to have done a pretty good job
963
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:58.719
with pretty much everything that's been put
in front of him. The Goutier is
964
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:01.800
one's the only one where I think
everybody would still rather have Gotier, at
965
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:04.920
least on the surface level, from
you know, the fact that Drysdale is
966
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:09.639
injured and then everybody was so hyped
about Gotier. But outside of that,
967
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:13.559
I mean, he did kind of
everything we wanted him to do. And
968
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:17.679
even you know, the Sean Walker
trade bringing in Ryan Paling and we'll see
969
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:23.800
they have a he obviously drafted mitchkov
and they have another really important draft coming
970
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:26.079
up here. I mean, he's
been pretty lights out and it's nice to
971
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:28.679
see him get a little bit of
that shout out. Yeah. I think
972
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:30.320
a big thing for Breer is just
his ability to pivot. Like there's so
973
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:33.079
many situations that have kind of come
at him from out of nowhere, and
974
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:36.679
he hasn't looked like out of the
water really like somebody has been overwhelmed.
975
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:40.119
I think that's probably a big part
of it, right, Like you could
976
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:44.239
expect all these things coming and kind
of affecting the team this year when you
977
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.440
go like the Carter Hart news,
you know, the Cutter Gotier trade,
978
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:53.239
and then even last offseason with Provov
and the whole Hayes situation. So yeah,
979
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:55.960
he's dealt with a lot and really
a short tenure at this point,
980
01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:00.000
and he's hasn't really ever at least
in my opinion, hasn't really made it
981
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.079
any moves or made any decisions that
have kind of had me step back and
982
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:05.679
kind of questioned, Okay, like
why are we doing this, or like
983
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:10.199
a lack of faith. And I
think that probably lends it to the voting.
984
01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:13.079
It's kind of funny when you look
at the whole list, because so
985
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.000
we can go through it, like
Jim Nill is first with one hundred and
986
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:23.159
eighteen points in the voting. Patrick
Alvin Vancouver's GM sixty six points in the
987
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:27.440
voting, a second, Bill Zito, Florida's GM is third, Chris Drury,
988
01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:31.840
New York's GM New York Rangers is
fourth, Don Sweeney Boston's GM is
989
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:38.360
fifth, Barry Trot's Nashville's GM is
sixth, Kevin Shevel day Off Winnipeg's GM
990
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:43.719
is seventh, Ken Holland Edmonton's GM
is eighth. Don Woodell, Carolina's former
991
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:47.280
GM is ninth, and then you
have Brier at tenth, and then Chris
992
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:53.599
McFarlane Colorado's GM at eleven, and
then Kelly McCrimmon Vegas is GM at twelve.
993
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:58.079
Like it's kind of crazy that Brier
for me is ahead of McFarland and
994
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:01.159
McCrimmon. But that just speaks,
you know, league wide to kind of
995
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:04.760
the job that he's done. Right, That he's ahead of two teams with
996
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:10.920
that were really contenders going into the
year in Colorado and Vegas, so speaks
997
01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:14.400
to kind of the work Briers doing
and the fact that I think he's willing
998
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:16.480
to, like we said, explore
all options. Yeah, and I think
999
01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:20.280
it's been a really nice change from
Fletcher, who I think doesn't get enough
1000
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:24.719
credit for the things he did right, but the things he did right or
1001
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:30.719
wrong definitely damage this team. He
created as much damage as he did positive
1002
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.920
stuff. Like he has a few
wins, but we can attribute some of
1003
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:38.039
those wins to Brent Flair too.
So no, of course, and I
1004
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:41.639
think two for Breer. The main
thing I think tons of people can understand
1005
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:45.599
and see this is just the creativity. Like if you look at Fletcher's style
1006
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:48.400
of being a GM and how he
kind of tried to acquire access or assets,
1007
01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:53.000
it was a very old school method. It seemed like there wasn't much
1008
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:56.719
creativity in the moves he was making
where his Breer is like a complete opposite
1009
01:06:56.800 --> 01:07:00.800
and he'll kind of explore any avenue
if it will better the team, multi
1010
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:04.800
team trades whatever, you know.
I don't think Chuck Fletcher had won multi
1011
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:09.599
team trade in his whole ten years. And I believe, I believe,
1012
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:12.559
Yeah, I think you're right.
I believe. Keith Jones mentioned this during
1013
01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:17.320
the press conference that he called Danny
Breer a really tough negotiator, and I
1014
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:20.480
believe that, like not surprising.
Look at how he was as a player.
1015
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:24.960
He wouldn't give an inch as a
smaller guy. Look at those battles
1016
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:27.920
in the corner, so I can
only imagine the way he used to battle
1017
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:30.639
on the ice in the corner.
Similar probably on the phone when negotiating.
1018
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:34.079
I think he's highly competitive, and
I think he comes with a plan like
1019
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:39.440
ready with a plan like and what
yeah, and always willing to walk away.
1020
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:42.000
And that's why I think it's so
important the Flyers take it slow this
1021
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:45.599
year, is that you're still in
a position where you have leverage in the
1022
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:49.400
position you're in because because they know
you're not being aggressive. They can't hold
1023
01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:54.480
anything over you. They can't hold
the retention over you. They can't ask
1024
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:56.960
you for more assets because you'd be
like, okay, well no deal,
1025
01:07:57.559 --> 01:08:00.760
right. And that's why I think
he's smart that he moved go to so
1026
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:02.880
early, because before it got to
that deadline, he's like, well,
1027
01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:06.119
I don't have a deadline, so
I can you know, I have another
1028
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:11.519
what year and a half or whatever
of retention when I traded this guy,
1029
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:15.079
so you know, you can have
him now and give me what I want,
1030
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.479
or you can wait until somebody else
gives me a better offer over the
1031
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:20.680
next you know, eighteen months.
So I think it was really smart.
1032
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:24.560
It was like one of those things
where it was like I'm not bullshitting here,
1033
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:27.359
Like if somebody doesn't want to be
here, they're gone. Somebody doesn't
1034
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:30.439
give me an offer and walking away, And if I have to not trade
1035
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:32.520
Sean Walker at the end of the
year, I would have done that because
1036
01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:35.479
I can say, hey, we're
fighting for a playoff spot, right.
1037
01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:40.199
But because he was in that position, he was able to get that first
1038
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:43.600
because the team's wanted the asset and
he could say, well, okay,
1039
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:46.600
then then I'll hold on to him. And well, we know that we
1040
01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:49.159
have a better chance of the playoffs
with him, and I go, it's
1041
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:54.760
either make the playoffs right or get
a first round pick, And he chose
1042
01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:57.960
get the first round pick, which
I think was the right move retrospectively,
1043
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:03.079
right, But making the playoffs was
his other avenue that he could tell the
1044
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:06.039
other GM and be like, well, we're still fighting for a playoff spot
1045
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:10.520
here, right, and great way
to negotiate. So it's all about leverage.
1046
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.079
Everything's always about leverage, and he
has it right now and I think
1047
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:17.000
he's utilizing it properly. All right. Next piece of news we have is
1048
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:21.479
the NHL combine happened. I don't
want to spend too much time on this,
1049
01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:26.640
but we can just talk about that
draft in general and around this.
1050
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:31.279
But there are the top performers from
the NHL draft. I'll just I don't
1051
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:35.159
really care that much about this stuff. I'll say that because it doesn't always
1052
01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:39.319
translate, right, Like you can
have a great score in a certain competition,
1053
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.159
but that doesn't mean it's gonna make
you a really good hockey player at
1054
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:45.600
the end of the day. So
they're also so young that just because somebody
1055
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:49.720
excels in something now doesn't mean that
they're going to be the best at that
1056
01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:53.720
down the line, you know what
I mean. And some of these younger
1057
01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:57.640
guys are not even fully really matured
or fully grown or really in their bodies
1058
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:01.600
yet that they're gonna actually like spend
the majority of their careers as NHL player,
1059
01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:04.159
So you gotta take it with a
grain of salt. But obviously if
1060
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:08.399
somebody performs really well, it's a
good thing. Yeah, But it does
1061
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:13.560
show you why some of these guys
are ranked where they are or why they're
1062
01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:16.119
having like great second halfs because maybe
they're mature and quicker, or they take
1063
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:21.399
their fitness more seriously. For instance, like left hand grip chet Luchenko is
1064
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:26.600
on the top of that list,
Kayden Lindstrum is number two. Again,
1065
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.119
Sasha boy Bear, I'll stick to
the players that people probably would know.
1066
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:38.399
He's number four. Brandis seg Niguard. Michael Brandison Niguard, the Swede was
1067
01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:44.439
number five on that list, called
Boudin. I still don't even know how
1068
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:49.199
to say that name properly. I
should I shouldn't. Yeah, he was
1069
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:53.119
seven, So I'm just looking to
top ten here and then the right hand
1070
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:57.239
grip chet Luchenko was top of that. Again, Kiden Lindstrum was second,
1071
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:00.239
and then it kind of you know, Nigar was on there a seventh.
1072
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.239
So again these are all and they're
all pretty close except for Jett Luchenko who
1073
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:09.479
seems to be far and away.
I have the best grip strength both hands.
1074
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:14.600
The duration test went to Cole but
but Dwyne, I don't know.
1075
01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:18.279
Again, it's a good affort,
you reve. I appreciate it. Gabriel
1076
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:27.520
Eliason was number two. It's a
funny Swedish name. I will say that,
1077
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:31.600
the the kid Dean latn Roe,
Laton Rue, I forget how to
1078
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:35.720
say his name, the big kid
six seven, Uh, the project.
1079
01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:40.520
Yeah, yeah, so he he's
on there for duration, which I thought
1080
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:45.800
was kind of interesting. Though he's
going to be a project, but probably
1081
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:49.279
a late first round pick. Uh. Stane Soldberg who's kind of climbed up
1082
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:54.760
the charts the defense. And I
gotta say that name, like as a
1083
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:59.760
hockey name, Stane Solberg that it's
like, that's a man. I'm probably
1084
01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.600
saying it wrong. He's probably Styan
or something like that, but still,
1085
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:05.359
like, just get this, I
mean, just imagine coaches, like somebody
1086
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:10.600
covered the ship stand right like that. I love it. The v O
1087
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:15.920
two Max Oliver Josephson was number one, tied with tecause that's cardio, right,
1088
01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:19.399
it's cardio base. That's usually a
big test. Yeah, duration and
1089
01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:24.720
VO two Max are both kind of
Tjiginla's top of that list, which I'm
1090
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:29.880
not surprised at all, right because
of who his father is, but also
1091
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.239
like the type of guy's father is, Like how important it would be for
1092
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:36.680
son to be in good shape.
And then Maclin Celbrini was fourth on that
1093
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:43.439
list, and then hand and wingspan
measurements. See this is one where I'm
1094
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:50.640
like, what does this really mean
matter? Yeah, latn Rue was obviously
1095
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:56.279
top by far top of that list, and then uh, Eric Emery or
1096
01:12:56.319 --> 01:13:00.680
e j Emery was third on the
list and I've been seeing his name at
1097
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:04.840
the end of the first round.
He also had the best body fat percentage
1098
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:11.079
e J Emory so looking lean,
and Sam Dickinson was number two, tied
1099
01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:15.680
with Emory. Nothing really like the
high jump. Emory won that again by
1100
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:20.279
far. Uh so you can see
like this one, I'm almost like kind
1101
01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:23.680
of risky. It's like, okay, so you love the guy who's like
1102
01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:28.439
you know, kind of a physical
freak, but that doesn't could just be
1103
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:31.439
at this age that he's that.
Yeah, also might not matualize into hockey,
1104
01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:35.880
you know, like he had by
far the highest vertical jump and what
1105
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:40.960
is that like good leg strength,
I guess for skating, Like how does
1106
01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:44.079
that pertain to hockey? Like I
don't know, Like I some of these
1107
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:48.079
make sense to me, Like some
of these combine things. I mean,
1108
01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:50.800
how many times have we gotten in
the past, and there was guys that
1109
01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:55.520
like were not good in these and
like are really good hockey players. So
1110
01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:58.720
it doesn't always translate. The hockey
sense I always find is a big one.
1111
01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:00.439
You can't measure how to think the
game and where to go on the
1112
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:03.079
ice, and usually for good at
that you're a pretty good player. So
1113
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:08.640
and then je Luchenko was second on
the vertical jump and then no arm jump.
1114
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:18.520
Uh Emory again was fourth. Squad
jumps Emory was fourth. Yeah,
1115
01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:21.000
I don't know anybody, if any
team, I mean, if any team
1116
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:26.199
takes fitness into account, e j
Emery, Like, don't be surprised if
1117
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:29.119
he's in the first round at some
point. Maybe that's kind of what this
1118
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:32.520
tells you is like some of these
guys are in better peak physical condition than
1119
01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:39.000
other. The one I really liked
is ze boyem uh he. He had
1120
01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:45.399
the most pull ups, which again
not relevant to hockey at all, with
1121
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:51.039
sixteen pull ups his training man,
let's go yeah. Lucas Fisher was second.
1122
01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:56.079
Tigi Gindol was third with thirteen.
I can bust out. I can
1123
01:14:56.359 --> 01:15:00.920
pretty much do sixteen pull ups,
but I'm a full grown man. Yeah,
1124
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:03.840
I think like sixteen to twenty for
their age, Like that's pretty solid.
1125
01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:08.600
If they hit twenty, that's at
that age, it's ridiculous, Like
1126
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:12.640
they were probably NHL players that can
surpass that substantially. Oh yeah, for
1127
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:15.079
sure, being a teenager and doing
that kind of stuff. Because not all
1128
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:20.680
of these guys really understand fitness.
Like we know that Mitchkov wasn't like killing,
1129
01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:24.079
like he was spending more time on
the ice than in the gym,
1130
01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:28.039
And honestly, I do think that
like when you're a player developing at that
1131
01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:30.760
age, sometimes it can be more
beneficial to be on the ice. I
1132
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:33.960
think when you're making that transition to
pro hockey, then maybe that's when the
1133
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.880
fitness needs to come in, Right, That's exactly what I was thinking.
1134
01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:41.199
Where I'm like a lot of these
guys are gonna take their fitness more seriously
1135
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:46.000
once they hit pro hockey. So
it's like none of this really matters pretty
1136
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:49.000
much. Yeah, you don't think
about it from this respect of like just
1137
01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:53.640
doesn't matter much. No, But
like think about you, think about being
1138
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:58.760
a seventeen eighteen year old, like
were you like deep into a fitness reshiment
1139
01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:00.920
at that point. Like, I
don't know what I think this this was.
1140
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:05.880
I think this is like one because
we know so we know that this
1141
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:10.199
was like something that's been around for
a while. I think this is something
1142
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:13.239
that's like a little bit history.
They always do the combine. Of course,
1143
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:15.720
I think it's a little more historic
than it is relevant today because you
1144
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:20.119
can get like a lot of like
you don't need this type of information today.
1145
01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:24.279
This seems like kind of what they
looked at back in the day,
1146
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:27.520
you know, and it was an
opportunity to get all these players in one
1147
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:32.800
room to talk to them potentially because
they didn't video calls and email. You
1148
01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:34.720
know, it wasn't the same back
in the day. Well, I know
1149
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:39.600
a big part too, is like
they do interview teams do a lot of
1150
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:42.479
interviews with these players. Prepping up
to the drafts. So I think maybe
1151
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:45.640
some of the interview process might be
even more important, like figuring out the
1152
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:49.399
character of a guy I saw online
like this crazy thing Apparently some NHL team
1153
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:54.920
was asking yeah, or it was
Utah exactly, you know exactly what I'm
1154
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:59.119
talking about. Utah was asking players
like how much would they tip their Uber
1155
01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:02.840
driver? And what was their ubers
score? Uber score, that's what was
1156
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:06.760
there? You score from that the
driver gave them what was their average review
1157
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:11.960
score, which, like, I
mean, I don't know how much indicator
1158
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.000
that is, Like I understand how
you treat service workers can kind of tell
1159
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:17.359
a story about like if you're a
piece of shit or not? Are you?
1160
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:23.800
Yeah, exactly? But also like
you got a factor in and these
1161
01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:27.000
guys are eighteen, so I want
to say, like all these guys are
1162
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:30.680
you know, like first of all, are they even ubering a lot at
1163
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:35.119
this age? Anyway? Like who
knows? Like usually the only time I
1164
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:38.960
use in Uber is if I'm drinking. All these guys are below that age
1165
01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:42.800
to even legally do that, So
that's one thing to factor in. But
1166
01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:45.439
like, yeah, I don't know, I don't know how much these scores
1167
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:48.399
are really a big deal. Personally, I'd ask different questions to tell character.
1168
01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:53.479
That's my opinion, but I don't
think it matters that much. But
1169
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:56.319
I do agree with you. I
think the interviews, it's an opportunity to
1170
01:17:56.319 --> 01:17:59.720
interview guys without pulling them away from
their life. And you have your team
1171
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.560
on and and scheduling. You know, we always assume scheduling is easy as
1172
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:06.279
being fans, but as somebody who's
worked a professional career and you as well,
1173
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:11.680
like getting meetings together is annoying.
So you just have access to everybody
1174
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:13.920
there. You don't have to ask
them to fly over, you know.
1175
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:16.159
Like so I was such a big
deal that we got Mitchkov over, you
1176
01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:19.640
know, we like flew him here
for two days and had them in our
1177
01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:24.119
facility. Like that was dedication by
mitchkov to be like, oh yeah,
1178
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:28.439
I'm in you know, like that
doesn't normally happen what happened with That's why
1179
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:32.159
it was such a big deal that
before a player is yours, you're spending
1180
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:36.079
forty eight hours with your organization,
you know, at your stadium, with
1181
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:42.439
your ownership and leadership and decision makers. That was a huge pick for the
1182
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:45.439
Flyers, huge factor all yeah,
and that kind of goes into the next
1183
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:49.800
topic. And I guess the big
piece that I took away from everything and
1184
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:53.600
this was going you know, I
saw this on Twitter, is that the
1185
01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:59.359
Blackhawks did take Lefshinov out to dinner
and that was the only player that they
1186
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:03.560
took out to dinner. Look,
I've said it from the beginning we started
1187
01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:08.319
talking about this draft. D will
go above forwards. It happens every year.
1188
01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:12.279
We're always in denial about it because
everybody always wants the flashy guys,
1189
01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:16.039
but defenseman, top defenseman are so
hard to find and you need one to
1190
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:19.199
win. Look at any like past
Cup team in the last five years,
1191
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:24.439
they all have a really solid top
defense in top pair. So while Demidov
1192
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:30.199
might have or Demidov might have the
highest projection, none of that really matters
1193
01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.119
because we can't actually project players one
hundred percent. But it does seem like
1194
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:38.000
they will be going with Lef Shanov
at number two, which should kind of
1195
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:40.680
shift the narrative a little bit.
I think, you know, he was
1196
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:43.720
kind of slated by most people to
go number two, but I think it
1197
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:47.399
kind of at least clarifies that.
And I'm sure that NHL teams kind of
1198
01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:51.359
assume that lev Shanov will be going
number two anyway, because he's probably number
1199
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:56.840
two on majority of teams lists because
of the fact that he projects to be
1200
01:19:56.920 --> 01:20:01.720
a potential number one defenseman and you
know, they already have one. They
1201
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:05.319
have a slew of other forwards there, but they have their number one center.
1202
01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:09.680
You know, if they can get
their number one defenseman, it makes
1203
01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:14.279
sense for the check check, you
know, the way the way to build
1204
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:16.319
a team, right, you want
to get that number one d obviously and
1205
01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:19.119
things like that. So no,
it totally makes a lot of sense.
1206
01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:23.039
And I would say too, like
if you look at Demeatov, I did
1207
01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:27.479
see some rumors and some things kind
of stating that it's possible, like there's
1208
01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:30.680
certain teams and there's you know,
certain rumblings that he might you know,
1209
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:34.800
fall potentially and he might not even
get selected in that top five. So
1210
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:41.560
interesting, right, similar to kind
of the mind, it could be like
1211
01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:44.119
if you're the Flyers, here's a
caveat, Like, if you're the Flyers,
1212
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:47.000
let's say Demetov drops to like seven
or eight, does that interest you
1213
01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:49.640
to try to move up to grab
him. I think I'd be interested,
1214
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:53.720
but I don't think we'd be willing
to pay the price for it. Would
1215
01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:55.880
Yeah, I think it would be. It would be a huge price.
1216
01:20:55.960 --> 01:21:00.039
Of course, it would at least
cost our second first round pick. And
1217
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:04.880
I think the flyers are more interested
in doubling up their odds rather. I
1218
01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:10.319
guess if it depends on how low
you would fall, you know, I
1219
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:13.960
totally agree would depends how LOWE falls. I mean, if he comes close,
1220
01:21:14.439 --> 01:21:16.119
But then what would stop that other
team from being like, yeah,
1221
01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:19.640
at a certain point, he's the
best player available, So you know,
1222
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:27.239
I don't know. It was making
me think about zame Perek, who seems
1223
01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:31.479
to be kind of listed all over
the place, kind of like Carter Yakamchuk,
1224
01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:34.800
who also listed all over the place. But like, what do you
1225
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:39.560
think about a guy like zame Perek
who it does seem like they'd be doubling
1226
01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:44.960
up on the Drysdale one. But
he's you know, he's a very shifty
1227
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:49.680
defenseman, very potentially you know,
an eighty point defenseman in the NHL.
1228
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:53.720
You know, maybe you know,
I don't think he's as great of a
1229
01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:58.000
skaters, like when hughes or something, but he does have ridiculous hands and
1230
01:21:58.039 --> 01:22:02.439
he has a ridiculously quick, and
he obviously knows how to produce points.
1231
01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:05.720
I mean, the guy was one
of the leaders in points in the entire
1232
01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:12.039
OHL in his draft year as a
defenceman. It's ridiculous to put up ninety
1233
01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:15.000
plus points as a defenseman in your
draft year. So it's like, what
1234
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:18.279
do you think about a guy like
Perek being taken a twelve by the Flyers
1235
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:21.680
even though he doesn't think it's go
ahead? Yeah, I was just gonna
1236
01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:25.560
say, I think it's totally possible
that Perek gets taken. I mean,
1237
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:29.720
I think the Flies are looking for
upside at least for the defenseman in terms
1238
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:32.359
of like, Okay, we want
guys that either are gonna be the whole
1239
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:36.920
package, like a Yakamchuk who kind
of like really good defensively but also has
1240
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:41.800
a boom offensively and has the size, and then if it's not gonna be,
1241
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:44.600
that's gonna be a guy like almost
the macar ilk, where like,
1242
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:48.199
okay, can you know quarterback that
power play, really good offensive instincts,
1243
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:51.640
really good first pass. So I
could totally see it, like I think
1244
01:22:51.680 --> 01:22:55.560
for the Flyers, and the good
thing for where they're at though, is
1245
01:22:55.720 --> 01:23:00.840
there's gonna be a lot of players
it seems like available that you know that
1246
01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:03.399
seem to be good picks, right, Like there's Perect, there's potentially Zeve
1247
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:10.239
Boyung, Yakom Chuck, Sam Dickinson, Paul Eiserman, Consta Helenius, Berkeley
1248
01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:13.560
Catton. Like there's a list of
guys where typically like when you're picking at
1249
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:15.399
twelve, you're not thinking like,
oh wow, like I'd be happy with
1250
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:19.279
any of these guys, but really
like I wouldn't mind any of those picks.
1251
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:23.600
I mean, obviously we all have
our preferences, but it doesn't seem
1252
01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:26.680
like there's like, oh no,
like we don't want him, Like it
1253
01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:29.439
doesn't seem like there's that type of
player on the board, right I do
1254
01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:31.560
I do trust the Flyers too,
Yeah, I agree with that. I
1255
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:35.560
do trust the Flyers to pick the
right player. And like I tried looking
1256
01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:42.680
again to like Beckett Seneca, and
you know, I'm look, I don't
1257
01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:45.800
know enough about him. He just
doesn't seem to project as like a top
1258
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:51.199
player in the league to me.
But like I feel like other teams,
1259
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:54.680
like there are teams are gonna be
really high on guys that we do not
1260
01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:59.000
expect, and that might just because
it's so muddled, like you're saying that
1261
01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:02.279
there's gonna be like a that Luchenko
gets taken really high, or you know,
1262
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.239
that's gonna push somebody down to us
that we potentially didn't expect. I'm
1263
01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:12.439
still my top choice is still Berkeley
Catton as a forward. That's exactly what
1264
01:24:12.560 --> 01:24:16.800
I want to be drafting, is
one of my choices. I think Katten
1265
01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:21.840
or Eiserman. Interesting thing that I
saw on Twitter was seventeen at this which
1266
01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:26.920
is nuts. Yeah, Like I
saw a thing with like an interesting thing
1267
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:30.319
is that like if you notice the
Flyers selected Mitchikov last y, they didn't
1268
01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:33.319
really say too much about him before
the draft, and like if you notice
1269
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:38.680
they haven't really said much about Berkeley
Catton at all, so I wonder if
1270
01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:42.000
they're very interested. It's kind of
like a silence like is golden type thing
1271
01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:44.279
where like we don't want to mention
it too much because we hope he kind
1272
01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:47.000
of falls to us, right,
But it's definitely interesting thing to think about.
1273
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:49.840
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't
want anybody to know who I was
1274
01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:54.439
taking, you know, unless I
was working a deal to make sure that
1275
01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:57.720
that team got who they wanted and
we got who we wanted, and we
1276
01:24:57.720 --> 01:25:00.479
were going to move up. For
the most part, I would want nobody
1277
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:03.479
to know who I was, even
I wouldn't want anybody to know my list
1278
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:08.880
whatsoever. But I'm still open.
You know, if we do take like
1279
01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:13.439
let's say we take Seneca at twelve, I'm gonna assume the Flyers know what
1280
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:15.920
they're talking about. I'm not gonna
be like, oh, well he wasn't
1281
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:19.199
high on my list. Well the
shit, Yeah, They're like, let's
1282
01:25:19.239 --> 01:25:23.039
be real, right, Like we're
all armchair gms at this point, especially
1283
01:25:23.039 --> 01:25:25.199
when it comes to the draft,
and a lot of these guys we have
1284
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:29.479
not seen very much. So I
would say that you have to trust the
1285
01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:31.439
Flyer scouting staff, like they look
like they've done a pretty good job these
1286
01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:34.840
past a couple of drafts, and
I think Brent Flair usually does as due
1287
01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:39.119
diligence, and you know, he
showed, yeah, he knows his stuff
1288
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:43.079
with the draft, and he's also
you know, picked later and found some
1289
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:45.039
gems. So I think you got
to kind of trust the Flyers and what
1290
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:47.720
they're doing here with them. I'm
really excited to have Steve on next week
1291
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:53.439
to talk about company who actually watched
these guys, uh, you know,
1292
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:57.439
for a couple of years already shameless
plug now for next week's EPI, Yeah,
1293
01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:00.600
yeah, absolutely, And then remember
we're gonna be doing an episode with
1294
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:03.439
him before the draft and then immediately
after the draft too, so and that
1295
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:06.920
one I'm even more excited for to
talk about that. Just recap it all,
1296
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:11.960
talk about the players we've already taken, because I want to know who's
1297
01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:15.479
already going to be part of this
core. And the draft is exciting.
1298
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:17.520
I really do trust the Flyers to
take to take the right players at this
1299
01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:23.039
point. I think even even the
cold call field. You know, when
1300
01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:27.479
we took Cam York, I wasn't
like panicking. When we took Cam York,
1301
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:29.600
I like looked into York and I
was like, oh, I was
1302
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:31.880
like, this is a really impressive
prospect. It's like this guy has top
1303
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.279
pairing potential. I was like,
that's what we need. That's why I
1304
01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:36.560
always say, like, even if
it's not the guy I want, even
1305
01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:41.840
if it's not Berkeley, Cat,
did we hit You know, if they
1306
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:45.840
take constant of Hellenius, it's because
they believe in Hellennius can be. Honestly,
1307
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:47.720
like that pick to be to be
I feel like everybody's like, oh,
1308
01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:51.239
it's such a safe pick. I
feel like people fail to realize that
1309
01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:56.279
he's playing amongst men. I think
that's just something that everybody's going over.
1310
01:26:56.520 --> 01:27:00.680
No, it's it's a great point. It's like he when you're watching highlights
1311
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:03.960
and one guy's playing against the OHL
and the other one's playing against like you
1312
01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:06.359
know, it is playing in Liga, you know, in the suite in
1313
01:27:06.399 --> 01:27:14.760
the Finnish Hockey League, like you're
the level of competition so different, you
1314
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:17.359
know, And that's where like I
watched ze boyem and you don't look at
1315
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:24.560
his highlights as being like super flashy. But like going back to Helenius,
1316
01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:29.000
like yeah, okay, he's not
really flashy, but why is he producing
1317
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:36.520
better than all these other superstar finish
prospects. There's something too exactly right.
1318
01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:42.399
So it's like he's doing something right
to produce, you know. So I
1319
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:45.880
don't know. I'm My whole thing
is like I'm just gonna trust in the
1320
01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:51.800
Flyer scouting because they've done a really
good job of late and especially since Flair
1321
01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:59.279
has taken over. Like I wasn't
excited for Tyson Forrester. I thought he
1322
01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:00.640
was gonna be like oh, maybe
this guy will end up being like a
1323
01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:04.600
second line player. And now,
like I watch him play and I'm like,
1324
01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:10.359
oh lie, what I was really
excited for him. Okay, well
1325
01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:13.279
then you knew better than me because
I realized, you know, the only
1326
01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:17.199
reason why for Forster is I heard
Dale Howard Chuck with the late Dale Howard
1327
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:20.000
Chuck. Like I always mentioned this
on the show, but there were he
1328
01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:26.199
was very affiliated with the Barry Colts
and Sam Costantino, who's a draft expert
1329
01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:30.920
on sports Net, he did not
have Forster in the first round, and
1330
01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:33.279
Howard Chuck essentially reached out to Costatino
and was like, what are you doing?
1331
01:28:33.560 --> 01:28:36.960
You say you know draft prospects and
you totally missed on Forster. And
1332
01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:41.079
like when you have a legend like
Howard Chuck saying stuff like that, you
1333
01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:44.199
gotta you gotta pay attention to my
opinion. Yeah, look, you're probably
1334
01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:46.199
right, and that's the reality.
And that's why we talk about how these
1335
01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:51.600
prospect profiles and all this stuff doesn't
really matter too much. Like you have
1336
01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:56.000
to just trust in your scouting team. And I think the Flyers scouting team
1337
01:28:56.039 --> 01:28:59.760
has done enough right so far that
you should trust that they can hit on
1338
01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:02.680
these first round picks. You know, maybe we won't get the best player
1339
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:05.479
in the draft, you know,
but it doesn't have to be the best
1340
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:09.520
player in the draft. It just
has to hit, that's it. Like
1341
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:13.520
Anton Lindell is not the best player
from his draft, but he's a hit,
1342
01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:15.840
yeah, exactly, and he's making
he's playing a key role for Florida.
1343
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:17.880
So it's for sure. You gotta
get guys that can, you know,
1344
01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:21.720
make the NHL, make an impact. So yeah, got brought up
1345
01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:25.560
Eck last time, right, Like
wasn't the best player in the draft,
1346
01:29:25.840 --> 01:29:29.399
was a hit, big hit.
He was a later pick too, Like
1347
01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:32.840
you need to hit on the play
of the picks you have, and a
1348
01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:38.800
late first round pick shouldn't be expected
that that thirty one, thirty two pick
1349
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:43.600
will be you know, Like if
it becomes a Scott Lawton, that's a
1350
01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:46.159
hit. If it's a fifty point
player, well, if you can make
1351
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:50.520
if you even get a guy that
can make the NHL, usually it's a
1352
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:53.199
hit. I mean, obviously,
if you're in the upper first round,
1353
01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:56.119
you want them to contribute past the
first round. If a guy makes the
1354
01:29:56.199 --> 01:29:59.479
NHL, that's a hit. In
the range we're taking. I expect top
1355
01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:03.399
six four, top three defenseman,
right, and you have to at least
1356
01:30:03.439 --> 01:30:05.960
get that out of it. If
you get more than that, that's a
1357
01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:12.560
home like what the Flyers do with
Mitchcov at seven, getting a generational potential,
1358
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:15.560
generational talent, you know, in
the in a number seven pick.
1359
01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:21.199
That is, we got a first
overall caliber pick with the number seven.
1360
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:27.000
Oh totally, man, that's a
home. That's a that's a Grand Slam
1361
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:30.800
home run. All right. Uh, just want to reminder, please like
1362
01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:34.319
and subscribe, follow us on iTunes
and Spotify, give us a rating there.
1363
01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:39.359
If you're not subscribed on YouTube,
please do so. It's tremendous help
1364
01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:44.000
to us. So, sticking with
the prospect territory, so we'll do this
1365
01:30:44.079 --> 01:30:46.520
last prospect segment here, we'll do
playoff talk and then we'll end it.
1366
01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:54.359
So you found this about Mitchcov.
You sent this over a little bit earlier,
1367
01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:59.239
and you you pointed out an interesting
stat about Mitchcov that only four of
1368
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:02.680
his nineteen goal is scored this year
for SOGI. We're on the power play,
1369
01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:06.880
and fifteen of them were it even
strength. Yeah, so it's really
1370
01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:11.359
interesting. Yeah, I wish I
could pull it up on the screen and
1371
01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:14.800
kind of show it. But the
most interesting part about it, like is
1372
01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:16.880
where the goals are scored. Yeah, there you're getting at right. You
1373
01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:20.640
can kind of see that the goals
are all scored near the front of the
1374
01:31:20.680 --> 01:31:25.800
net. So it just shows like
anybody's saying, oh, he's a finesse
1375
01:31:25.840 --> 01:31:29.479
only player, doesn't go to the
net, completely mistaken. And if you
1376
01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:31.279
have watched Mitchico, that's one of
his things and one of the things about
1377
01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:34.560
his game that I actually really like
that for a skill forward, he's not
1378
01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:38.840
afraid to go to the net and
try to score and try to bury rebounds,
1379
01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:41.680
and that's usually where most of the
goals are had, right in front
1380
01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:44.199
of the net. So just for
him to be able to go to that
1381
01:31:44.319 --> 01:31:46.039
area at such a young age,
I feel like it only bodes well for
1382
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:49.279
his future development. You know what. That reminds me of Sidney Crosby.
1383
01:31:50.159 --> 01:31:54.720
It's like always near the net exactly. Yeah, he can score goals all
1384
01:31:54.760 --> 01:31:57.560
around the net, no matter where
he's at. And I think it's interesting
1385
01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:00.800
because Sochi definitely didn't have a good
power play right or one of the worst
1386
01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:03.960
teams in the league. So like, it also goes to my previous point
1387
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:10.000
that elite players cannot fix your power
play, not overnight like that, like
1388
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:14.920
you have to have a good power
play in general stuff. Yeah, it
1389
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:20.560
also shows that the guy can produce
at five on five against men. You
1390
01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:24.520
know, if if it was like
the opposite majority of those goals were all
1391
01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:26.880
on the power play, it would
be a lot less exciting. That's like
1392
01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:30.840
more Patrick lion a territory, a
little more concerning, if anything. Right,
1393
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:33.479
Yeah, so I think it's a
really nice stat. And imagine how
1394
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:36.479
many goals he would have scored if
he was on a better team. Oh
1395
01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:41.319
yeah, exactly, if he was
playing on SCAFF for example. But oh
1396
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:43.680
yeah, that was just something interesting. I wanted to bring up Reguardi Mitch
1397
01:32:43.680 --> 01:32:47.840
cover. He loves the mitchikalv stats, so I figured there and hopefully we
1398
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.159
get some news on him in the
coming weeks. Right, we're still waiting
1399
01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:55.319
on that, but we'll see right
as thirty, Yeah, we're like three
1400
01:32:55.359 --> 01:33:00.720
weeks away from the deadline there,
Well, fake everybody, we have no
1401
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:03.880
idea of late end of June is
actually the deadline. We just suspect.
1402
01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:09.840
And then the other thing I have
here is this is another prospect list and
1403
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:15.680
Obviously McKean's list had the flyers at
seventeen. Scott Wheeler of the Athletic has
1404
01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:19.680
his own list and he has the
flyer six, so go figure by that
1405
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:24.720
one and his uh shows the disparity, right, Yeah, his top ten
1406
01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:30.439
and I don't agree with this order
either, but his top ten order is
1407
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:35.920
Mitchkov Bonk Brink. He's still his
Brink as a prospect, which I kind
1408
01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:44.439
of a little confusing. Andre Rizzo, Denoie, Coolosov, Barkie and Siernick
1409
01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:48.800
and Tuamala. I don't agree with
the order of this top ten. Mine
1410
01:33:48.840 --> 01:33:53.399
would be slightly different. I also
don't know how good Rizzo is because I
1411
01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:58.359
haven't really watched too much of him. I think Tumala, Barkie, and
1412
01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:00.640
Kolosov should all be higher on this
list. Yeah, I feel like having
1413
01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:09.399
Kolosof, Barkie, Tuamala even at
all. Yeah, even Dyer higher than
1414
01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:13.439
Rizzo's kind of puzzling. Maybe Scott
really likes what he's seen from Rizzo,
1415
01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:15.479
obviously, like I haven't watched a
ton of him, you know, play
1416
01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:19.680
or really a lot of footage from
Rizzo, but just like he was I
1417
01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:25.199
believe what his final year of college
and putting up insane numbers, so like
1418
01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:30.239
when you're at that age in college, I mean not the same. Yeah,
1419
01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:31.880
it kind of lends to why he's
putting up those types of numbers,
1420
01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:34.600
whereas like you could say the same
for Barkie, he's like, you know,
1421
01:34:34.640 --> 01:34:38.640
in his draft plus one in the
OHL, but I think he's just
1422
01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:42.640
so much younger in his development that
like the upside would be higher ultimately.
1423
01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:45.720
And Evendoie, like he almost had
a did he score twenty goals last year
1424
01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:48.239
in the AHL? If not,
he was pretty damn close, but I
1425
01:34:48.279 --> 01:34:53.880
know he led the Fantom the goals
hit twenty Yeah, So to have yeah,
1426
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:56.680
so to have Danoie the guy who
led the Phantoms in goal scoring last
1427
01:34:56.680 --> 01:35:00.640
season in the AHL in pro hockey, lower than a I who was you
1428
01:35:00.640 --> 01:35:03.000
know in n C double A like
a little puzzling. But I do think
1429
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:06.439
that Scott's ranking in terms of like
where the Flyers prospect pool is at like
1430
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:11.479
six, that's a lot more accurate
than yeah, seventeen that we talked about
1431
01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:14.520
last weeks. Yeah, And I
think I think Mitch CoV carries the big
1432
01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:16.960
brun of that. I think we
got Mitch CoV it's vastly less impressive.
1433
01:35:17.039 --> 01:35:23.840
It's probably more closer to seventeen because
we had graduates too, Like well,
1434
01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:29.479
one we lost go Tier and replaced
Gotier with Drysdale. Drysdale who's the same
1435
01:35:29.520 --> 01:35:32.760
age as as Brink. So again, that's why I'm like, Brink played
1436
01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:36.840
like almost an entire season. Forrester
is not on here. You know,
1437
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:41.520
if you have Gotier and Forrester and
let's say you keep Brink on there,
1438
01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:45.159
well, if you have Brink,
how do you not have Forster not?
1439
01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:48.199
Yeah, that's why I'm like,
and that's why I'm not shitting on Scott
1440
01:35:48.239 --> 01:35:51.600
Wheeler at all. It's more just
like, that's why I tell people not
1441
01:35:51.720 --> 01:35:56.399
to take these two seriously. Again, the Flyers had the best prospect pool
1442
01:35:56.479 --> 01:36:01.319
in the league ranked didn't pan out. It's like, I've learned my lessons
1443
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:04.319
from this that these lists are content
pieces at the end of the day,
1444
01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:08.880
right, these need to produce content
and need to run something. So they
1445
01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:11.640
said, hey, run up this, right up this prospect list it we'll
1446
01:36:11.640 --> 01:36:14.840
get some hits. I guess people
talking. So that's that's really what it
1447
01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:16.239
is. I feel like a lot
of this stuff like there is an analysis,
1448
01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:18.199
but a lot of it too,
is like a talking piece in a
1449
01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:20.520
sense, right, Yeah, I
think you're right. Yeah, it helps
1450
01:36:20.560 --> 01:36:26.800
us for our show. So I'll
say this, there are least ten prospects
1451
01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:30.439
on this team worth talking about that
you can project to be NHL players,
1452
01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:33.800
which is a great sign. And
I like that he didn't have Ronnie Addared
1453
01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:38.560
on there, who's almost twenty five
years old, not a prospect at this
1454
01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:44.439
point. Yeah, so I just
thought that was interesting, just you know,
1455
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:49.479
nice change from McKean's. But I
just I that's why I don't care
1456
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:53.560
too much who we take, because
I'm just going to trust in the flyers
1457
01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:58.039
scouting over a scouting website, you
know, regardless of how much they watched
1458
01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:01.600
the player. I'm just like I
kind of trust the NHL teams more than
1459
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:06.239
I trust the research I do online, you know, Yeah, exactly for
1460
01:37:06.319 --> 01:37:11.319
sure. And also, like you
got to think how much of these guys
1461
01:37:11.359 --> 01:37:15.600
are these teams watching that they're really
like focused on, versus a scouting website
1462
01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:18.560
for example, that has to kind
of scout all these players for all these
1463
01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:23.720
different teams. I feel like there's
less of a focus right from that perspective.
1464
01:37:23.720 --> 01:37:27.039
So do you think so I'm like
thinking right now, while you're talking,
1465
01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:30.800
like, so Montreal is still bitter
about not taking Mitchkov for Ryan Buck
1466
01:37:30.920 --> 01:37:33.640
they take try to trade for Demedhov. Well, no, I was actually
1467
01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:40.399
thinking about the opposite that because we
brought Mitchkov over. Right, it's a
1468
01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:44.319
clear like no other team had that
time with Mitchkov like we did. Right,
1469
01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:47.359
it was obvious that Mitchkov wanted to
come here. He had leverage,
1470
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.720
Right, he plays in the KHL, he can stay there, Right,
1471
01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:56.960
he had leverage, he could somewhat
control his destiny, and he allowed himself
1472
01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:00.840
to drop all the way to seventh
come to Philly. There's no way that
1473
01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:03.760
Montreal wasn't interested in taking Mitchkov.
He probably just didn't want to go there
1474
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:09.079
to some degree. I don't think
he was like, oh, but I
1475
01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:12.560
think he had leverage in his situation. And I do think about Demidov and
1476
01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:15.680
you're talking about him dropping, like, I'm not saying that Philly is going
1477
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:19.960
to be I mean maybe because Mitchkov
is here and they probably know each other,
1478
01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:25.760
you know, but you know,
could Demidov be dropping because he also
1479
01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:30.600
has a preference and he's in the
same or very similar situation as mitchkovah is
1480
01:38:30.640 --> 01:38:34.720
all the leverage, he's a high
end prospect. It's possible. I think
1481
01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:39.479
it's definitely possible. Like, I
think the thing with Mitchkov is Montreal was
1482
01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:43.479
pretty adamant and like from sources and
things that we heard that Montrealist wasn't going
1483
01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:46.479
to take the risk to take him
with the whole Russia factor, But if
1484
01:38:46.520 --> 01:38:50.159
he gave you the guarantee, like
then you're definitely not going to take him.
1485
01:38:50.279 --> 01:38:54.000
Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. Like, but if let's say
1486
01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:59.600
Mitchkov went and spent two days in
Montreal right with there, he could be
1487
01:38:59.640 --> 01:39:01.720
a complete different story. Yeah,
don't you think they would have taken him?
1488
01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:05.720
But they don't. Mean, Like, if you're not getting that guarantee
1489
01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:10.880
from the player, why take the
risk when you could select somebody else that
1490
01:39:10.960 --> 01:39:12.960
you know is gonna want to be
on the team long term? Right,
1491
01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:17.159
Because David Reinbacker, Like, let's
say mitchkov does the whole three years in
1492
01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:21.600
the KHL, David Weinbacher is not
coming, is not playing for the Montreal
1493
01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:27.199
Canadians probably even next year, right, and even if he does, he's
1494
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:30.399
not gonna be a huge impact on
that team. Yeah, you know he's
1495
01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:32.840
gonna be playing fifteen and sixteen minutes
a night. You know how much of
1496
01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:36.920
a difference really, if you look
at it, you're gonna make a franchise
1497
01:39:38.039 --> 01:39:42.800
changing decision over one year difference.
It just seems like when we were talking
1498
01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:45.439
about the interviews and all that,
like that is the big part of this
1499
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:48.479
is like is this guy gonna fit
in with our team? Does he want
1500
01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:51.720
to be here? And when most
players don't have leverage, you know,
1501
01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:57.479
like these OHL players don't have any
leverage and Cuba players do. And that's
1502
01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.720
where we're angry at Gotier because he
told us he won to be a flyer
1503
01:40:00.920 --> 01:40:03.520
because NCAA players do have leverage.
Yeah, then they flipped the script off
1504
01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:05.920
and that's what he did. Happen. That's why we're bitter with it,
1505
01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:11.399
because you we bought into you with
our fifth overall pick, you know what
1506
01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:13.600
I mean, We would have let
you go if we knew you didn't want
1507
01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:17.359
to be here, right, I
just hated to think about Definitely interesting.
1508
01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:23.000
Yeah, yeah, all right,
So last topic, NHL playoffs. As
1509
01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:29.520
we speak right now, the Florida
Panthers just beat Edmonton. I think it
1510
01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:32.640
was for one. Yeah, yeah, it was for one. I'm getting
1511
01:40:32.640 --> 01:40:36.119
the two games mixed up, so
they won for to one. In the
1512
01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:40.199
second game. They won three to
nothing in the first game. Serga Bobrovski
1513
01:40:40.239 --> 01:40:45.239
has only given up one goal.
Edmonton did have. You know, I
1514
01:40:45.279 --> 01:40:49.560
wouldn't say vastly, but heavily outshot
Florida in the first game. In the
1515
01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:54.880
second game, it was all Florida. Edmonton like pretty much didn't stand a
1516
01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:58.880
chance. The games are getting gritty
out there, and I know Barkov is
1517
01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:02.239
now questionable. A high hit on
dry Sidle. Who should be suspended a
1518
01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:06.720
game for that high hit or at
least find Yeah that was enough. That
1519
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:11.359
was definitely a dirty hit. Yeah
that's ridiculous that he didn't even get a
1520
01:41:11.359 --> 01:41:17.199
fine. But you know, it
does lend back to what I've been saying,
1521
01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:20.079
you know, what I was actually
thinking about before the series started.
1522
01:41:20.199 --> 01:41:25.600
This reminds me of the Detroit Red
Wings versus the Flyers series where we got
1523
01:41:25.640 --> 01:41:28.960
swept, where we had Eric Glendraws, who was arguably the best player in
1524
01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:32.880
the world. Yeah right, and
yet we couldn't win a single game against
1525
01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:38.880
Well just because the depth of Florida
is just overmatching. I would say Edmonton
1526
01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:41.760
in every aspect, though, I
will say, like the first game,
1527
01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:45.199
I mean, if you look at
the shot totals, right, like Bobrovsky
1528
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:49.840
thirty two saves, gets a shutout. You know, Florida only gets seventeen
1529
01:41:50.399 --> 01:41:56.199
shots on net. So I do
think in a sense like Bobrovsky steels Game
1530
01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:59.479
one and then Florida really has all
the momentum because they're at home, and
1531
01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:00.800
then now you're up to nothing,
and it's the same like a finals.
1532
01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:03.760
So it's gonna be really really hard
for Edmonton to turn it around here.
1533
01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:09.600
And if Florida wins Game three,
it's definitely over. Yeah, coming back
1534
01:42:09.640 --> 01:42:13.199
three nothing down the finals, with
all that pressure, it's it's pretty much
1535
01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:16.159
done. Like I'll go back to
it. I said it last week,
1536
01:42:16.279 --> 01:42:20.359
like I thought Florida would win just
because their goaltending surpasses Edmonton's. I have
1537
01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:24.279
more faith in Pebroska as a goalie
than Skinner. Have to say that Skinner
1538
01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:28.199
can't eventually drop one day. But
he's a very young goalie still, right,
1539
01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:32.760
Like he very young twenty four,
Yeah exactly, I believe, so
1540
01:42:33.119 --> 01:42:39.119
I'm interested to actually see now he
is twenty five, So still very young
1541
01:42:39.119 --> 01:42:46.439
for age that goal actually you know, come back, so yeah, or
1542
01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:49.119
I was gonna say yeah, usually
the age that like goaltenders enter the league
1543
01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:54.199
right like for Skinner at twenty five, so that's surprising. He might be
1544
01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:58.399
struggling a little bit in that situation. But yeah, just looking at it,
1545
01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:00.239
like, I just can't see a
way that Edmonton comes back. And
1546
01:43:00.439 --> 01:43:03.880
I mean we did see this last
with the Dallas series, but I think
1547
01:43:03.880 --> 01:43:08.359
it's completely different in the sense that
it just looks to me that Florida has
1548
01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:11.960
all the momentum in the series,
Like there hasn't been a time where Edmonton
1549
01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:15.600
is really controlled play or controlled long
stretches and being able to capitalize, Like
1550
01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:20.840
they went up one nothing and then
Florida immediately scores four goals straight and beats
1551
01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:24.560
them four to one, right like
they they are up one nothing and they
1552
01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:29.159
can't even build on that shut out
two for Florida, like Evan Rodriguez having
1553
01:43:29.199 --> 01:43:32.880
a huge Finals so far, three
goals in only two games, so he's
1554
01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:38.520
really coming through. But I think
as long as Bbrovsky continues this solid play
1555
01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:42.079
of like either a shutout or allowing
one goal, I think it's going to
1556
01:43:42.119 --> 01:43:45.239
be really hard for Edmonton to get
back in. I will say this,
1557
01:43:45.439 --> 01:43:47.600
if Barkop doesn't play next game.
If he is, that's a huge loss.
1558
01:43:47.680 --> 01:43:53.079
Yeah, it's a huge change.
Because he is, he is a
1559
01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:57.920
player capable of shutting down McDavid,
were moving him, McDavid could run wild.
1560
01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:00.800
So that's something they got to obviously
fact or into. But we'll see
1561
01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:04.439
what happens. Like, I have
a hunch that Barkov will play. I
1562
01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:06.840
mean, if he can, right, you gotta think it's the finals here.
1563
01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:11.199
But I mean if he can't,
we'll see if Edmonton can capitalize.
1564
01:44:11.239 --> 01:44:15.199
I think if let's say, for
some reason, you know, Barkov cannot
1565
01:44:15.239 --> 01:44:17.640
play, it'll be interesting to see
if if you know, Edmonton can get
1566
01:44:17.720 --> 01:44:21.840
back kind of into into the series
here, right, Yeah, it'll be
1567
01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:26.079
interesting. I don't want to say
it's gonna be over in a sweep or
1568
01:44:26.119 --> 01:44:30.000
anything like that. So we should
expect Edmonton to potentially win game three here
1569
01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:33.119
and make it interesting. It would
be more interesting to watch. But again,
1570
01:44:33.159 --> 01:44:38.920
my money's still in Florida and Depth
wins championships. I've been saying that
1571
01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:40.960
it's like, you don't need to
have the best player in the world.
1572
01:44:41.039 --> 01:44:43.239
You need to have players who can
play against it. You need to have
1573
01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:45.359
the best team, right, ultimately
not the best player, but you have
1574
01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:48.439
the best team that's cohesive together and
can kind of get into that point,
1575
01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:54.279
and that has size in the playoffs. And you know, I I heard
1576
01:44:55.319 --> 01:44:58.439
and again I'm not knocking Charlie o
Connor because I like him and I think
1577
01:44:58.479 --> 01:45:00.199
he's a smart guy. But I
heard him, don't play the size thing
1578
01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:03.439
again, and I'm like, I
don't know why you're not learning that.
1579
01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:10.720
The NHL teams are not stupid.
Size is extremely physical, especially in the
1580
01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:14.680
playoffs. Right, It's a wearing
down, a team, breaking down,
1581
01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:17.760
a team constantly for checking. Teams
are looking to do those things in the
1582
01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:20.840
playoffs. Yes, and look,
Leon dry Saddle is a big dude.
1583
01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:27.680
He took out Barkov and that wasn't
legal, but still played. Still,
1584
01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:30.960
yeah, exactly exactly if they come
back and win because Barkov's out, they
1585
01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:34.239
still got a championship. If they
come back and win because Barkov's out,
1586
01:45:34.279 --> 01:45:41.119
Like that play will almost remind me
of Richard's injuring Crachie back when the Flies
1587
01:45:41.159 --> 01:45:44.720
were down through nothing to Boston.
But it's true though, Like one player
1588
01:45:44.800 --> 01:45:46.600
like that could have a huge difference
in the depth all the matchups. So
1589
01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:49.720
we'll see how Florida kind of plays
it going ahead. That's a big knock
1590
01:45:49.720 --> 01:45:54.119
on their depth. But yeah,
Florida is still my pick and we'll see
1591
01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:57.960
how it materializes it, I think
agreed. I mean, I hope I
1592
01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:00.680
was gonna say, I hope Edwardson
at least wins one game, so it
1593
01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:01.880
doesn't land up being a sweep,
right, Like, we want to see
1594
01:46:01.880 --> 01:46:05.439
some sort of competitive hockey. So
yeah, and I will say credit to
1595
01:46:05.520 --> 01:46:09.399
Edmonton the show that they could play
team defense, like maybe not at the
1596
01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:12.640
level of Florida, you know,
but they didn't get here by accident,
1597
01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:17.239
right, Yeah. I think that's
impressive is that the team around McDavid and
1598
01:46:17.359 --> 01:46:23.319
dry Settle have improved dramatically over the
past several years. Where they were a
1599
01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:27.920
team that really couldn't shut teams down
to now a team that was able to
1600
01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:30.199
shut down Dallas, that was able
to get out shot heavily and still win
1601
01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:34.520
that game. You know, that
stuff matters, and they're building through that.
1602
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:38.840
So I would expect them to be
a force next year for sure.
1603
01:46:40.439 --> 01:46:42.680
All Right, dude, that's it. Anything you want to leave our audience
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We have some news. I guess
it's all just topical stuff today.
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We'll talk about the drafts a little
bit, and we'll talk about some prospect
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stuff and then one with just current
playoffs about what's going on with the Oilers
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and the Panthers. So first piece
of news, So Carter Hart appeared in
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court, or at least his lawyer
appeared in court criminal court. All we
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know so far. Judging from that, I'll leave facility to kind of read
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out the tweet that we had from
Rick west Head, but that there won't
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be a date set before August thirteenth, and it looks like it might be
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a twenty twenty five. I've late
twenty twenty five criminal or day, which
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we kind of suspected. We thought
maybe as late as twenty twenty six,
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but it looks like this is going
to drag on for I don't know what
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seems like way too long, but
at least another year at this point.
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Bacillity, Yeah, exactly. So, just as being somebody from Canada,
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I can say that our court system
really backlogged. So it's not surprising to
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me, as I've said on the
show in the past, that you know,
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we might not even get a trial
to late twenty twenty five. I
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wouldn't be surprised if it's even twenty
twenty six. Like any initial prediction they
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get usually tack on a couple of
months, so we'll see where it goes.
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But obviously not the best of news
for you know, trying to kind
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of get this out of the way
and for the flyers to figure out maybe
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what's going on with, you know, the property technically that they will still
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hold the rights to in Carter Heart
as they move ahead. So just to
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read Rick west Head's tweet, this
is what he reported. Lawyers for the
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five former twenty eighteen World Juniors hockey
players charged with sexual assault appeared virtually in
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a London court this morning. A
trial date won't be set before August thirteenth,
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when the case will be discussed in
assignment court. A criminal lawyer who
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works in London and has no ties
to the case told Rick Westhead that because
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of court backlogs, it's doubtful the
Hockey Canada trial will begin before late April
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twenty twenty five at the earliest.
Lawyers have also told Westthead the trial is
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expected to take at least two months
once it does get started. Dylan Dubey,
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Alex Foremanton, Carter Hart, Michael
McLeod and Cal Foot were charged with
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sexual assault in January. As it
pertains to the open case so not too
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much news in terms of okay,
like what's actually happening with the case,
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but apparently there should be something scheduled
in the near future here likely late August.
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It looks like, Yeah, I
mean, that's why I haven't really
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been paying too close attention to this. I don't think you much news,
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right, Yeah, that's the thing. It's like with these criminal things.
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Now. I think there is a
a deadline set by the NHL, and
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I think I think the NHL has
put it on the teams to initiate if
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they're going to retain their rights by
offering them a contract. But what team
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is going to offer these guys a
contract with the criminal core case hearings a
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year away, So I don't know
what's going to happen with the rights of
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the players involved, Like we don't
know what's going to go on with Carter
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Hart if he is and again,
they have to be acquitted. Let's make
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that clear. If they're found guilty, nobody's getting a contract. But if
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they are right exactly if they are
acquitted, I think there will be conversations
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of contract, whether the Flyers will
bring back Carter Hart. I don't know.
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I think it kind of depends.
Yeah, I mean, I think
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it depends what goes on with Airson
and what goes on with Fetotov and what
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happens with Coolsov. And again we're
still getting where of the Colesov is a
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maybe, but I don't I don't
buy I don't really buy that either.
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So I think it depends what happens
here. But look, let's be honest.
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The talent that is Carter Hart,
you know, at that prime age
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will be what twenty seven, around
twenty seven years twenty eight? Yeah,
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yeah, when when he potentially could
come back to the NHL, I think
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there would be discussions. I don't
think no team would be interested. I
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think the Flyers would consider it if
they're looking for a goaltender at the time.
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But again, it depends on all
depends on the court cases. If
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they're found guilty, nobody's gonna touch
these players. And that's just the reality
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what we're looking at. No,
Yeah, exactly, there's not really too
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much to add. Right. Officially, the teams technically still hold their rights,
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but once that, you know,
July first date hits, if they're
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not qualified, obviously they would become
UFAs. So I would suxpect that's gonna
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happen, just based on everything that's
going on, and no team's going to
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really want to associate themselves, but
we'll obviously see but I imagine that's going
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to be the likeliest scenario. Yeah, yeah, I think they're all going
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to become free agents and look,
maybe there'll be some kind of right respective
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done afterwards about who owns their rights
and you know, if the player wants
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to come back. But I imagine
this is where like relationships kind of play
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in. Like if the Flyers have
a good relationship with the Carter Hart camp,
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he's found not guilty and there's an
opening in net, you know,
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I think there can be a conversation
had there. But most of these guys
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are not coming back, yeah,
you know, for the foreseeable future right
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now. So I don't think that
any team's gonna be jumping to sign any
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one of them. And it's a
shame because the whole thing is obviously potentially
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just a bad blemish on the NHL
to just an awful situation altogether, depending
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on on the levels of truth and
you know, guilt involved. So it's
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really just a lose lose for everybody. And you know, I'm really too
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much to say, and I don't
want to comment until you know the court
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system kind of you know, does
its thing, and you know, the
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cases are put out there, so
you know, again, if they're found
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guil, I don't think any of
us are gonna want any of these players
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on their team regardless. You know, it's not like anybody's gonna be like,
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oh, well, you know,
he gets out of jail in a
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in a year, so maybe we'll
say no. I think at that point
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the conversation ends and these guys go
play overseas. It's a career killer in
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North America. Yeah, absolutely,
So hopefully you know there's good news whatever
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that would be, depending on what
side of this issue you're on. But
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you know, as of right now, I'm kind of just staying out of
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it. You know, my assumption
is Carter Hart's not part of this team,
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and you know, the goalies we
have here are goalies, so there's
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plenty of talent around the world to
find other players. So you know,
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I'm not going to be sitting here
resting worried about one guy. I tend
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to not do that anyway, with
trades and other stuff like that, Like
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Cutter got to me is like goodbye, you know what I mean, Like
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you just can't you could always replace
talent in a sports environment, in a
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sports world. So that's what the
Flyers are going to have to do in
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this situation, which they've already done, you know, bring over a Fedotava
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Colasov. And I think the team
is aware of that as well, that
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they just have to move forward and
kind of put this behind them until you
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know, any new news really surfaces. So like, yeah, like if
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they find out the players were acquitted, then don't worry about it up until
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then. They're they're probably not caring, right, It's just a distraction,
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and it's something you can't even strategize
for because well, we don't know where
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they stand on the issue. Too. They do over a relationship with Carter
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Hart, so I'm sure they're not
like, screw this guy. Yeah,
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But at the same time, if
he's guilty, they're not going to be
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like, oh, it's okay,
buddy, we'll give you a con No,
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it's you gotta reput your sow and
if you did something disgusting, you
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know you're gonna have to pay for
it percent, right, Like obviously if
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that's the case, I mean all
of them need to be, you know,
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charged with with what happened here in
the Yeah, exactly. I think
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it's just like a situation for the
Flyers where they can't really control anything any
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so why worry about it until there
is something that pertains to us eventually again.
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And that's that's what I would say
to anybody listening, is don't worry
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about this, like, not on
a on a team based level. If
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you're worried about it from like a
cultural level. That's one thing. You
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know, I'm not gonna tell people
what to care about, but you know,
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if you're worried about it from a
roster spot, don't because it's not
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The Flyers likely aren't as well.
So at this point, yeah, they're
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trying to move forward without a doubt. Okay, next piece of news.
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It's like, man, it's shitty
news all around. Uh. The second
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piece of news is we finally got
confirmation that Jamie Drysdale did have surgery back
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in April, which is I guess
somewhat good news because that means he had
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surgery right after the season ended.
They didn't, Yeah, they didn't.
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Wait. Now, that's the abdominal
core groin area surgery. I believe it
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was abdominal course, yeah, lore
body or core muscle area, core muscle.
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Yeah. Okay, so they it's
not going to affect him, But
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like, let's be honest and everybody
listening to this, I assume you're a
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hardcore fan. You've seen this happen
before. This will affect Jamie Drysdale to
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a degree. I don't know to
what degree, could be ten percent,
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twenty percent, fifty percent, but
we've seen it affect every single player.
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So those are the those of you
were expecting to have Jamie Drivesdale kind of
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come out the gate, you know, full board, one hundred percent healthy
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and you know, kicking ass,
taking names, and you know, back
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to his you know, his prime
skating. That's probably not going to be
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the case, could it. Sure, it's possible. I just went to
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bet on that, and uh,
I would imagine that. You know,
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we're gonna be looking at him in
a reduced role to some degree from his
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actual potential. So I'm sure a
lot of people are gonna want to judge
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his season based off of that first
half that he has next year, But
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it's gonna take at least half the
season to get this kid back to where
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he was prior to the injury or
prior to the surgery. Having said that,
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you know, even injured, he
didn't look skating wise, didn't look
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bad. So maybe it won't affect
him too much just because he's such an
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elite skater. But you know,
the reality is is that you know he's
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gonna be somewhat hampered, and we
should be ready for that. Yeah,
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I think that's a natural thing to
expect. I mean, if you have
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been watching the Flyers for years at
this point, or even just players around
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the NHL have had this surgery in
general, typically it's about a six month
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time period before they're really back to
themselves. That's usually how it goes,
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Like six months from the surgery,
Like I remember Claude Drue obviously similar sports
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hernia corn muscle surgery. You know, the season after that, I think
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he only had like sixty eight or
something points. Everybody wanted to trade him,
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thought he was cooked. Kind of
shows how much it can affect a
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player in their skating, especially if
it's if the skating aspect of a player's
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game is a real forefront to their
scale and how they kind of create offense
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and things like that. Also,
another example, Kevin Hayes, right,
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he came back from that or injury
look noticeably slower until about halfway through the
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season you kind of saw him pick
things back up right, and a lot
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of it with that injury, at
least a lot of players and interviews that
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I've read in the past, they
say it's like almost working and building through
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like the scar tissue that comes from
the surgery, and like essentially it hurts
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almost like while you're skating and while
you know you came back, and some
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players will get almost concerned, like
it should it be feeling this way?
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Should it be feeling this way?
And doctor will say it's natural because you're
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working through that you know, extra
scar tissue that you're trying to kind of
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you know, burn off from the
surgery. So I think in a sense
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like Dryzale is definitely gonna be impacted. Could just just look at all the
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other players that were really good players
as well who also had similar struggles.
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The only thing though, that I
will caveat is if he did get the
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you know, the surgery on April
eighteenth, I believe that was the exact
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date. You do have like all
of May, all of June, all
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of July, all of August,
all September. That's almost about five six
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months. So I wonder with like
those other surgeries like Drew had, Hayes
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had, maybe it was later in
the summer. It was exactly so,
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which one frustrated me at the time
when it happened, because why not do
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it as early as possible where it
looks like the Brier regime tried that.
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So he is probably gonna come back
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since there's you know, more time
from April to training camp, hopefully he
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can kind of work through some of
those struggles a little more and maybe instead
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of you know, being impacted for
a six months into the season, he's
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impacted about three months. Right then
you see him like November December kind of
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get back on the horse and look
look more like himself. Yeah. I
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also, uh, there was an
there was an interview and like an article
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put out by Adam Kimmelman who covers
the flyers surrounding this article or not surrounding
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the article surrounding uh, you know, this Drysdale injury and the surgery.
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So I just wanted to read a
quote from Danny Breer essentially regarding that so
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Brier said Drysdell got checked after the
season and there's a significant injury there that
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he needed surgery on, and this
was set at the twenty twenty four NHL
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Scouting combine. Brier also said drysdeals
surgery was not related to his previous shoulder
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injury and that the procedure would allow
the defensive to better showcase his skill set.
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And Brier also said he wanted to
play games. He's had a lot
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of injuries to deal with the last
few years, so he wanted to play.
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So I give him a lot of
credit to play through that. He
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showed a lot of character leadership the
way he handled it. But he'll be
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in a much better position next season
and should be a lot freer to play.
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There's a couple other interesting notes as
well. Brier also mentioned about Razis
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verstall Line in that he's also proceeding
well in his reabilitation from surgery that was
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April eighteenth as well to repair a
ruptured triceps tendon and should be ready for
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training camp. I was supposed to
be about a three month recovery and then
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a final injury. Note is Brier
wasn't sure about the future of for Ryan
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Johansson. He stated he's going through
some kind of rehab. Brier claims he
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had injection, and Johansson claims he
had a hip injury, and from their
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Brier states at this point, honestly, I'm not too sure where it's at.
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We're not sure if he's going to
need surgery again or if he's going
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to be ready for camp. We
really don't know at this point. And
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apparently whatever happens with Johansson will not
affect any decision to buy out cam Atkinson
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or Cal Peterson if they decide to
do so. So that was just some
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interesting injury tidbits from that art.
Well, I'm glad you added that in
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there. Actually I was about I
was gonna say that, like everyone should
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recognize that surgery always has a cost, you know, Like I know everybody
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jumps to surgery, but I understand
why most people try to put it off
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and try to heal without it.
It's not always one hundred percent necessary,
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but like, it takes time to
recover from a lot of these things,
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and you know, hopefully Rasmus will
be back, you know, kind of
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back to form, and luckily it
wasn't a lower body injury that he has
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to like skate through. You know, it's an upper body injury, still
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gonna be potential problems there. Yeah, you can't lift and things like that.
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But yeah, it's a big it's
a big gap on our right side
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without the those two guys. So
hopefully they're healthy. As far as Johansson
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goes, I mean, I would
imagine he's probably an lt I R himself
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for an entire season. That's what
it seems like, right, Like,
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it seems like Joe Hanson is like, yeah, like I'm hurt, and
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then the Flags are like, okay, really you are, then like come
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in and will evaluate you, and
he's like, well, I have this
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injury. It seems like there's just
such a disconnect between his camp and the
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Flyers. Like I would never expect
Johansson to suit up one game for the
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I would suspect that he's gonna be
on the IR you know, probably the
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entire season until his contract expires and
then from there. Now, maybe he
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was injured because again, this was
a high pretty high end player. He
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was never like a star or you
know, he had some good seasons.
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He was definitely just drafted to be
a star, right but he's definitely he
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was definitely a top six forward.
I guess it would explain the drop off
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in production if he was, you
know, kind of playing through an injury
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that wasn't going away, and then
maybe he was just like, well,
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I don't want to play in Philadelphia
anyway, and I could use the year
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off type of thing to see if
this heels up. Yeah, because he's
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only thirty one, right, Like
that would be pretty early for him to
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retire. Albeit, I mean,
he got drafted in twenty ten and then
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played in twenty eleven and has been
the league ever since, so it's been
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like thirteen years. One of those
guys that entered the league early. But
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it is strange to me because,
like, you know, he played with
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Colorado sixty three games up until he
got traded and had thirteen goals, and
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that's actually like been almost one of
his best goal totals in a couple of
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years. So it's kind of strange
that he just you know, comes to
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the Flags as magically injured. But
yeah, when you add the fact that
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the Flyers said they had no interest
of having him in the NHL, you
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know what I mean, Like there's
something we're not being told about up front.
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Clearly some character issues. I mean, we heard about stuff. This
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is why I was like so down
on Cutter go Tate. When I heard,
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I was like, oh, I
was like, we've seen this type
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of attitude before. Doesn't usually pan
out well for the player when they're so
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public about like their character issues,
you know, about their attitude and this
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stuff, like they don't usually turn
into be the superstar that they're talked about
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to be. Now, maybe Goate
will be still. I mean, the
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kid's got a lot of talent,
so I'm not gonna diminish his talent,
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but you're gonna have problems with other
people around the league. And it seems
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like that's where Johanson is. And
maybe, you know, maybe he was
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dealing with an injury and wanted to
prove something or whatever. But just when
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you throw the fact the Flyers didn't
even again, we like had a bear
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bones team, you know, offense, you know, just with injuries at
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one point, and we still didn't
call this guy up right, any interest
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of even having him around the squad, you know, like he wasn't even
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and that was publicly stated by Brier, like yeah, he's not He's not
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coming to this team, you know, like he never once said, you
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know, we'll look to move him, but if we can't, we'll rotate
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him in or at least have you
don't leadership, right, I don't foresee
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him ever being part of this team. So it's just like, yeah,
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you look at the verbiage and you're
like read between the lines a little bit.
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There's something wrong with this. Of
course, probably he likely probably doesn't
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want to be in Philadelphia, and
I mean huge reason could be the relationship
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with John Tortorella that kind of exploded, you know, between him and Tortorella
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back in Johanson's Columbus days and kind
of led to him being traded eventually to
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Nashville for Seth Jones there. So
I imagine there's something there that probably happened
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between the two that's irreparable. And
then also, I mean there's probably just
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a sour taste in Johansson's mouth from
that situation, so he's probably just like
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fuck this, right, yeah,
Well, like you know, like a
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lot of players, so there's obviously
the Babcock thing where Babcock calls out players
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and he's just a huge douchebag,
right, And then you want to throw
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that title on Tortorella because you're like, oh man, it's Johansson and Dubois
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and Dubinski. But you look at
these guys, none of them have hit
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their potential, not like none of
them. So it's almost like I have
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a hard time believing Tortorella is a
bad guy like Babcock. It seems to
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me more he's just super blunt and
he hurt. Yeah, and that he's
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just like straight up like you are
not doing what you need to do to
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hit your potential. And this guy's
he seems to be right. How many
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players is he called out in some
capacity and he worked wrong? Well,
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I'm saying he was wrong about them? Oh yeah, I mean it's I
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can't really bring up Kevin Hayes liked
the world on fire in Saint Louis No.
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And again I give grace to Kevin
Hayes. He went through a lot
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of shit, you know, and
I do believe he's a good guy.
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I don't think Kevin Hayes a bad
dude. I don't think that was like
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a personality thing. But we watched
him on the ice like he was,
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you know, not playing well.
Yeah, not not just not playing well,
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I mean he wasn't moving his feet. He wasn't really not to say
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he wasn't trying, but it didn't
seem like he was putting in maximum effort,
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which is what John Tortorella is obviously
going to be looking for, right.
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I just think for Tortorella and some
of these types of players, like
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it's just him being blunt for the
sake of, you know, being blunt
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because he wants to help his team. I don't think. Yeah, but
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it's also like trying to help the
player in a sense. I think the
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players take it like a wrong way, like he's trying to make you better
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because he wants you to succeed and
live up to that potential. He's not
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calling you out because like he doesn't
like you or something. It's likely because
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he sees it they're is more and
he knows that you're not giving, you
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know, that extra percentage to kind
of get to that place. So it's
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actually more like to try to benefit
the player, I would, I would
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imagine, but some guys don't seem
to take it that way. Maybe it's
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a delivery, but I just think
Tortorella is a blunt guy, like you
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said, and you know, obviously
some people cannot take that approach in certain
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senses that they need to be coddled
or they don't they're not able to kind
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of, you know, take it
that way and like turn it into a
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positive, even though if it might
not even be a negative to begin with.
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So, yeah, like my dad
was really blunt. He was suiting.
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My dad was never mean, I
realize, especially now as an adult,
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I understood my father was never mean
to me. If anything, he
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was too nice to me with the
way I grew up. But he was
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super blunt, like he would have
to be honest. Sometimes he would just
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straight up tell me like you're not
working hard enough, or you didn't do
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enough, or what like you're making
excuses what or what have you done?
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You know. It was always that
attitude that was brought to me. So
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I think that's why I like Tortorella's
so much, because I'm so used to
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that attitude of like, yeah,
like blunt, like just to the face,
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you're not working hard enough, you
didn't put in the extra effort,
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you didn't do this, you're not
fast enough whatever. It's like when you
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hear you're not fast enough, that
means you focus extra on skating or whatever.
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You know, you you lose weight
because you're out of shape, you
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know, which we've seen with some
NHL players. That's what projected Jake Vorceek's
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career forward was getting introd Well.
I agree, and I also think too
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that like it's comes from a place
of Tortorella not only wanting to like push
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the player for them to get better, but it's also like a character test
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in a sense like Okay, if
I present this challenge and I challenge this
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guy, how is he going to
respond to the challenge? And I think
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it's he used it as a multifaceted
tool where like, Okay, I can
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push my player to become better and
a better version of himself, and I
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can also see if this guy isn't
meant to be here in this kind of
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environment that I'm trying to build.
Right, So I think he used it
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probably in two ways, and it
could be beneficial in both aspects, because
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yeah, you can almost weed out
guys that, hey, like, we
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don't want to build a team around
this guy. He's never gonna look at
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himself in the mirror and really blame
himself or take the onus on himself.
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I think you want guys Ultimately,
if you're trying to build a successful team,
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especially hockey, you want guys that
are gonna be able to take that
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accountability, put the onus on themselves, look at themselves in the mirror and
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say, you know what, like
maybe we lost that position or maybe we
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didn't execute that play because I could
have done something better, versus blaming other
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players or blaming your teammates. That's
how you get, you know, things
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to kind of not function smoothly.
So yeah, and from what I understand,
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that's why von Provov is no longer
here. Yeah, and he had
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that attitude, which is a shame
because I loved Provov as a player,
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and you know, he had so
much potential. Still I would say he
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still does. But if what you
know, what we're hearing is true about
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him, that would hold him back. And you know, to loop it
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back to the guys that we were
initially talking about, Drysdale and Risus the
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line and you know one that does
not seem to be the case from the
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little we've seen at Drysdale at all. His character seems to be phenomenal.
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And then Ristal Lineen, I mean, he's like I wish I had John
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Torderella earlier. Well, they broke
his they broke his game, like when
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he first joined the team. They
broke his game down completely, and like,
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think about being a veteran in the
league for six seven seas at that
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point. He could have took that
completely the wrong way and been like,
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well, like, I've been in
the league for these many years, I'm
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not going to change my entire game
because he thinks so. But he did
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it. And I also, once
again speaks to your point of good character
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for Risto, right, And I
think that's why you haven't heard outside of
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like Twitter people and us saying it, you haven't heard rampant rumors about Ristal
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lining because I think his attitude is
actually probably pretty great. So yeah,
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I don't think they're like unless you're
like and if you look at the free
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agency market, like I know a
lot of people want to be down on
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Risto, but his dollar value where
it's ending up now, if he is
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the player that he wonts when he's
healthy, assuming that he will be,
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it's not a bad deal. In
that it's actually not a bad deal anymore.
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And there's gonna be defencemen of his
quality. We're going to be getting
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more money. I would say defensemen
who were probably not even as good as
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him gonna be getting more money than
him just being you know, big,
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sizeable defense. When we were talking
about Zadorov, who has done less in
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his career than Risk the Line,
and he's looking for six plus million and
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he's mainly been a third pair of
guy, maybe like number four type guy.
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So yeah, it's definitely it's definitely
interesting. Like I do think that
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you know, risk of Linen specifically, like is a guy respected in that
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locker room? Is a guy that
you know, the teammates really like and
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reason being I mean, he's a
guy that stands up for his teammates,
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right He's willing to fight if needed, willing to go to bat, you
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know, for his team. So
guys in the locker room that doesn't go
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unnoticed, right, Like, like
guys really appreciate that. So I think
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for Risk the Line, and that's
probably why, unless you know the Flyers
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are getting fair value or able to
unload the full contract, they probably won't
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look to really move him. But
yeah, even like we've been talking about,
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you know, offline in the past, obviously that I can't see anybody
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really want to trade for risk to
line and unless he's healthy for a couple
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months first, it just doesn't make
a lot of sense from any other team's
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perspective. Why take on five million
from a guy that you quite frankly don't
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know if he's gonna come back and
uh be healthy the same Yeah, it'd
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be the same player. I think
if if Risto is moved, it's going
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to be a trade deadline potential next
offseason, but we might not even be
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talking about moving him at that point. We will see what this defense shapes
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up like, and again we know
the Flyers are not going to be It's
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funny. I'm listening to other podcasts
and they're all saying what we've been talking
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about for a year, which is
if you just look at the salary cap,
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if you look at cap friendly and
we'll talk about that in a little
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bit, If you look at cap
friendly, and if you look at where
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the team is cap wise, you
know, you can see what their window
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is, you can see what their
plan is. If you read their financials
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and you look at where they are, it's it's not this year, like
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this year is not the year to
go out and add a bunch of players
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and to be desperately trying to trade
guys to do that all that Fletcher stuff
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where he was kind of flailing his
arms as a GM like it's this is
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actually the year to kind of continue
to do what you did last year and
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vet out and hopefully get some access
for the guys that you do move out
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because you play well as a team, so their value isn't rock bottom,
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you know. I think we're building
towards that, which, let's get this
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goes right into the next topic.
So this was something I actually tweeted.
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I saw this on the NHL Networks
Instagram and I tweeted it out, and
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I did not expect to get you
know, like three hundred likes on this
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thing. One. I don't tweet
out much, so I don't really have
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much of a following on there,
and I don't really spend much time on
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Twitter except for just like glazing for
you know, news periodically. The algorithm
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like that one. Yeah, I
was I was actually surprise. I did
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not post it thinking it would get
a bunch of buzz, but I was
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getting a bunch of comments and retweets
and all this stuff, and it was
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really pertaining to the Florida Panthers.
And and look, we'll get into the
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actual competition of the game itself.
But you know, we talk about building
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a winner. You know, I've
said this. I don't think there's one
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way of doing it. The reality
is you just need an entire good team.
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You don't need the best player in
the league. You need guys who
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can play against the best player.
I say this every single time, play
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against the best players in the league. And they're all different ways along the
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road to build your contender. You
know, it's not going to be just
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I'm going to tank for five years
and I'm going to magically end up at
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the top of the standings Like that
doesn't work either. You have to make
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the right movie. Like even the
Edmonton Oilers where they are today, that
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was a long process to get there, and they made. They are a
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substantially better team today than they were
like two years into McDavid being on their
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team with David and dry title right
with the trade signings, not just drafting
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right. So so well, I'm
sorry, I'll open up to you in
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a minute. Here. Let me
just go through this actual post. So
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what I did is I posted the
NHL Networks, I guess image of the
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Florida Panthers roster construction and where these
players that you know that they kind of
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built this team off of came from. And so the drafted on the team.
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There are three names Barkov, k
Blad, and Lundel. Three guys
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that they drafted via trade Matthew the
Chuck, Sam Bennett at two, Lister
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Rhinan, Sam Reinhardt, Vladimir Tarasenko, Kyle of Poso, Steven Lorenz,
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Brandon Montur. Then free agency wise
Carter ver Hagy, Sergey Barovsky, Evan
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Rodriguez, Nick Cousins, Ryan Lamberg, Kevin Stenley, Nico Mikola, Oliver
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Ekman, Larson, Dimitri Koulikov,
Anthony Stolars and then the waiver claim Gustave
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Forsling, who we know what kind
of season he's having. He's been great
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for them. Well it they obviously
didn't do that overnight, right, those
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are what for and they were competitive
making though right exactly every year they kind
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of inched closer to getting to the
form that they're in that they pretty much
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had for the past couple of years, right, and even that that Chuck
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trade, like they were already really
good team and they made that trade for
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the chuck like it just Zito was
just their GM is just slowly chipping away
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at this image that he has of
where he wants his team to be,
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and slowly acquiring players and trying it
through every which way, which is really
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the main ways of doing it,
which is trade, free agency, uh
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and waiver wire and then the draft
as well. Right, And they got
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lucky in the draft where they got
some good players. They traded those players
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away for other assets or opportunities in
our case, they trade away oh and
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tip it right, they trade away
Jonathan Huberdough Like they got value from building
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players internally trading them away. But
primarily if you look at a majority of
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this team, it's been trades from
accumulating assets right, which is where the
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Flyers are, free agency, which
is where the Flyers will be in a
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year, right, and then a
waiverclaim, which is lucky as hell to
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find a guy that goose up Forsling. So what are your thoughts there,
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Dide Yeah, I think it's a
really interesting discussion piece just in terms of
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like how you can build a contender
in the NHL and a Stanley Cup contender
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that is a team like the Panthers. It just shows that there isn't one
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way of doing it. Like every
team, every fan base always loves to
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scream, while we're super bad,
we need that high in talent. Let's
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just tank, tank, tank,
and then we're you know, we're gonna
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turn around and a record amount of
time. But as we know, like
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you look at certain teams that have
done that for years and years, and
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you know, I've mainly tried to
use the draft and not really parlay to
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any of those draft picks or any
of those assets into other players who trade
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or even look really to a through
free agency. Doesn't always work like that,
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And a lot of the times that
losing culture can actually negatively impact you
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even more than selecting like really high
end guys through the draft, because once
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you get those players, you're putting
them into a culture that kind of isn't
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supporting losing. But like you're almost
in a rut where like, okay,
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there's nobody on this team that can
kind of get us out of this.
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There's nobody here that as a winner
because we stripped it so bare bones that
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you know, we're not aware of
like what a winning culture really is and
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how to kind of get out of
this losing kind of tail spin. So
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that's why I think it's really interesting, and I think a lot of teams,
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right, you can build even more
through the draft, Like look at
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Colorado, a lot, a lot
more of their team is drafted and they
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have a really good team. I
think what it really is for roster construction,
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it's just as a GM, you
got to just be on the pulse
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and unders stand the chemistry of your
own team and what supplements what and not
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be afraid really to make moves right. And I think that's a huge thing
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with Florida, Like they traded Jonathan
Huberto coming off one hundred point season.
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Most gms would not and you know
Mackenzie Leiger as well, who was a
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top to top four defenseman for them. Most gems are not gonna have the
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balls to trade their one hundred point
player and number two defenseman in a trade.
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Albeit you're getting Matthew could chuck back, but most gyms would just say,
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hey, like, let's try it
again next year and go at it
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with the same team. Why why
you know, change something that's not working.
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But a lot of the time when
that stagnation is what can cause a
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team to not really improve and not
be able to kind of get to that
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next level. And I think the
fact that Zito is willing to make those
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types of changes even shows the team
that, like, we're striving for excellence
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here and if we're not hitting that, then we're gonna make changes because we
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want to win, right And ultimately, if you keep things status quo,
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sometimes you're not lending to that you
know, winning mentality, because sometimes changes
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need to happen. And I really
do think too that, at least for
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the construction, like I was saying, going back to chemistry, it's almost
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like a peel away process where like
the Panthers, you know, they went
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to the playoffs a couple of years
ago and lost in that series to Tampa,
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right, and it was like a
real battle of a series. But
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after that two seasons, they subtracted
certain players, they added different players.
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They realized, hey, like this
mix is good, but it's not good
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enough to beat Tampa, the Cup
champs or the Randy Cup champs, so
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we need to change some stuff.
And they did. And then last season
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it's the same kind of deal,
right, Like, they make it to
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the Cup finals, but they don't
go status quo. They still, you
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know, make some changes to their
team, right, Like they get a
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Tarasenko in there, they get an
Opposo, you know, they add an
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Eckman Larson for example, and they're
not keeping things status quo right, where
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like a lot of teams will get
to that place. They'll get to that
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you know, Stanley Cup final or
conference final and say, well, we're
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just on the brink, and you
know, we don't need to remove anything,
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but sometimes you do need some to
do need to subtract something that of
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talent and to add you know,
another type of skill set maybe that might
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mesh better in that system with your
team, and that will push you over.
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Sometimes it could just be a matter
of guys, you know, not
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the fact they're not good players,
but they might not mesh well together.
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I think that goes back to like
the draft point that I was making.
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You can draft a team are really
good players, and on the team that
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you drafted them from they could have
been really great and top scores and whatever.
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It doesn't necessarily mean when you put
them together that that team's gonna be
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able to mesh right. And I
think that's why building through the draft can
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be tough because you see all these
you know, points on paper of these
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prospects, But once you put the
guys together in the room, sometimes the
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chemistry doesn't always mesh. And I
think it takes like an active GM to
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kind of realize that and make the
necessary trades to kind of get a room
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to mesh together. Yeah, I
think so. I think you have to
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just use everything available at your disposal. And like, even though one right
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way, right right exactly, Like, how can you say that the Vegas
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Goal Knights were built through tanking one
last year? Right? Colorado Avalanche they
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had two different rebuilds in there.
I would say they got somewhat lucky as
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well with the players that they drafted. They made the right picks obviously,
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and got elite players in there.
Tampa Bay Lightning were a combination of trades
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and drafting, right, So drafting
was huge there. Saint Louis, what
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was that, you know, Washington
Capitals, after how many years of being
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competitive in twenty eighteen, what was
that they found the right mix right right
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exactly? Pittsburgh Penguins, Again,
if you have the best player in the
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league, sure, you know,
I agree, there's a caveat there.
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If you can manage to find the
top player in the NHL sure, but
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even the Chicago Blackhawks, who were
competitive for like an entire year ten years
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that they were like on the top
of their game. Yes, they did
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draft Patrick Kane and Jonathan Tave Jonathan
Tave's was not one of the best players
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in the world. Like, he
was a really good player, but he
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wasn't like on pack Kyne's level of
eliteness. He was a two way you
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know, type of player. Overall
player. Yeah, overall type of player.
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The majority of that team was like
built through free agency trades over years.
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Like they didn't draft Patrick Sharp,
right, like the draft Mary and
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Holsa Yeah, right, exactly.
They built the team periodically. And that's
587
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:23.480
even the La Kings, right,
Like they traded for a bunch of flyers
588
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:29.400
players to build that team. Like, uh, it's just it's going to
589
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:31.840
be a process that you you literally
have to chip away out every year.
590
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:37.400
And if you have the luxury of
getting Connor Bedard and building around him,
591
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.719
great, that's that's an amazing first
step, right, but you still have
592
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.559
so much work to do to become
an actual contender. Like if you draft
593
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.639
Mitchkov, that's awesome, we have
Mitchkov. You still have to have the
594
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.760
team around him and the assets around
to make that move when it becomes available
595
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:59.039
to get Jack Eichel when he's available, right, Like, when that guy
596
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.519
becomes available, you go get him
in free agency, you go get him
597
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:06.440
via trade, right. That's that's
how the Flyers have to think over the
598
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:08.360
next few years. So that's why
I don't like the gold line talk because
599
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.920
people don't really know when this team
will be competitive because it depends on how
600
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.440
the assets materialize and what we do
with them in the process. We have
601
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.800
one huge offseason, we could be
one of the better teams in the league.
602
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:22.400
All of a sudden, we might
still not be. Like a guaranteed
603
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:27.280
contender, you know, might take
two, three, four or five years
604
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.440
of competing for a Stanley Cup.
But you slowly chip away at it every
605
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:35.480
year, you slowly modify your team
until you get them back to contention.
606
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:38.599
That was the luxury that the Vegas
Knights had is that nobody did an expansion
607
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:42.079
draft. The GMS didn't know what
they were doing. You can see that
608
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.000
with Seattle how that panned out very
differently, and there was just a plethora
609
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:50.320
of good players that you normally would
go out and draft or try to find
610
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.679
through free agency you try to find
through trade, and they were just available
611
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.239
to these guys, and they just
built a squad that could win, you
612
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.360
know, and they went the first
year, right, and he still again
613
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.239
the first year, right, they
lost in the finals. But those additions
614
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.599
exactly different changes. I think one
thing too, to point out that's interesting
615
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:14.079
to me is like, and uh, I think a lot of people probably
616
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:19.159
have the same thoughts is Florida to
one of their main things is taking chances
617
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.760
on guys that might have underwhelmed in
other spots, right, And I think
618
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.400
that's a huge thing. Like look
at Cardiff or Hagen, right, he
619
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:28.559
used to be on the Tampa Bay
Light names. He was a throwaway for
620
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:30.079
them, and then look at look
at you know the impact he has on
621
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:35.440
Florida. That's there, Jonathan marsh
is so right, Yeah, exactly exactly
622
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:37.119
essentially that they gave away. They
look at a Foresling or even look at
623
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:42.519
a Sam Bennett like Bennett wasn't or
maybe Owen Tippett. Yeah potentially, but
624
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.519
like look at Bennett even right,
like he was having a decent career on
625
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:49.400
Calgary, but but it was really
underwhelming for where he got drafted and then
626
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.519
he goes to Florida and really finds
a resurgence in his career. So I
627
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.840
think it's too just being mindful of
just because this player might have not performed
628
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.320
here. It's almost like the way
you build your team, right, Like
629
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.800
just because one guy in perform here, maybe it's just the circumstances he was
630
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:06.199
in. And when you bring him
into your team and surround him in a
631
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:09.679
better environment and maybe something that might
benefit his skill set more, for example,
632
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:14.559
maybe they will flourish. So I
think taking chances on guys like that
633
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.480
too, that might be underwhelming.
That's that's a good thing to look at.
634
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:20.719
Like I think at least something I
like from the Flyers and to kind
635
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.199
of you know, put a ball
on it and kind of add a flyer's
636
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.719
perspective. Brier and the staff,
like every time I've heard them talk,
637
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:29.400
every time i've heard them, you
know, think about, Okay, what
638
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.199
are we trying to do to improve
the team. Like they're always saying we're
639
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:36.360
open to all moves or open to
all right, you know ideas. And
640
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.400
I think that's that's really the mindset
you have to have, right, Like
641
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.800
anything could come your way, could
come to Brier's desk, you know tomorrow
642
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.679
morning, for example, and it
could be some trade or some sort of
643
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.280
you know, move that you never
even thought of, but it could be
644
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:52.519
something that really reinvigorates or revitalizes the
team or adds a really different aspect.
645
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.079
So I think, just as a
manager, especially in professional sports, that's
646
00:42:55.079 --> 00:43:00.519
such a like an aspect of such
a business that's like always moving, is
647
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.760
never really staying stagnant. You just
have to always be aware that, hey,
648
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:07.079
like there's always something out there that
couldn't prove my team. I got
649
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:08.960
to stay open to it, right, Like, you can't have biases in
650
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:13.039
terms of that, and you already
see that in what they've done with the
651
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.880
team. Like, yes, they
they they didn't want to trade Cutter got
652
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:21.920
but they made the trade aggressively when
they had the opportunity. They got Drysdale
653
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:23.880
in here, right, they went
out and they found a Ryan Paling,
654
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:29.239
who a bunch of teams passed around
and now probably most teams wish they had
655
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.800
a Ryan Paling in their bottom six, right, Like they didn't give up
656
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:35.760
on Scott Law and but like,
here's their opportunity with some of these assets
657
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.840
over the next couple of years that
we might see some changes. And that's
658
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:43.719
why I wanted to revisit the Travis
Connectney trading conversation because it's like, I
659
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.440
believe Connectney should be part of the
solution here. I don't. I'm not
660
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:51.559
scared to re sign him, but
if there is an opportunity out there that
661
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.760
we would not be aware of,
we have to be open to it always
662
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:58.119
because we're looking to build the team
in the right way. And if it
663
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.000
I'm not obsessed with rags, but
if it's something come back, Like I
664
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:04.880
didn't want to move claud Drew because
I thought he deserved the respect of being
665
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.519
a franchise player. But did we
get the return and this is a shout
666
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.679
out to Chuck Fletcher, do we
get the return that helped reboost our rebuild
667
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.039
here? Yeah? Right? Like
that might be you might look back at
668
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:21.039
this pick that the Flyers make at
thirty thirty one, thirty two, right,
669
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.320
assuming thirty two at this point,
right, and that ends up a
670
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:27.360
h tip it, yeah, plus
tip it. I mean that's why I
671
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.559
would like to revisit the Carter Richard's
trades and like, yeah, while we
672
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.360
lost, because I mean, everybody
kind of won except for Columbus and that
673
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.679
in those deals, the Flyer's got
all of a return for those players,
674
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.960
like enough to rebuild a franchise.
Yeah, and La wins the Cup,
675
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:46.519
so so they're happy, right,
So it all depends like there's no one
676
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:51.320
way of reacting to things, and
all these people keep screaming like, oh
677
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.360
I don't like this, like just
tank though I'm seeing less of that,
678
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.039
to be honest with you, than
I was. I think a lot more
679
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.840
people are buying into that this is
a proces and as long as you trust
680
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.559
the people in charge of it,
and I do trust Andy Brire and Keith
681
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.960
Jones from what I've seen so far, I feel like that's really what counts
682
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.800
is that when those opportunities open up, when those draft picks are available,
683
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.159
when that free agent is out there, when that waiverclaim comes up, that
684
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:22.280
you have the savvy team that knows
to jump on them, you know,
685
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.400
and again that you're not focused on, oh, well, this player is
686
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.480
better than the player on the other
team. You're just focused on building an
687
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.960
entire squad of good players. That's
it. Good to great, and do
688
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:37.719
not be mistaken, you need great
players on your team to win a cup.
689
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.480
That is, without a doubt you
cannot win a Cup without elite players
690
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:44.840
on your team, but you usually
need a few of them, right,
691
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.719
So like Travis Connectney, while I
think he's elite, there's only one guy,
692
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:54.480
you know, so you know all
that plays into the role. And
693
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.320
yeah, you have something you want
to say, silly, Yeah, So
694
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:00.599
I just had some I think I
know what you're talking about. Yeah,
695
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:05.719
I had some us just just on
the salary cap, like from a flyer's
696
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:07.400
perspective, So I just wanted to
mention, I think you know something that
697
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:14.599
everybody would be interested in. So
the NHL salary cap officially will increase by
698
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:19.079
four point five million to eighty eight
million dollars. And with that jump,
699
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:24.159
the Flyers will have approximately eight hundred
and three thousand dollars of cap space and
700
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:30.480
up to seven point three million with
LTIR factored in. So you know,
701
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:36.119
the jump definitely is gonna gonna help
the Flyers and there's lots of ltr our
702
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.239
room to work with. So CAP's
officially going up. Is it only seven
703
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:42.559
No, I'm sorry to cut you
off, but it's only seven million.
704
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.280
It should be a lot more than
that, right, because of I guess
705
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:49.280
it depends on who they LTI are
not, yeah, exactly on who on
706
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:53.480
who it is, and then the
Joehansson stuff factors in. Actually Johansson and
707
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:59.119
Ryan Ellis combined is like ten million. Yeah, so I think just with
708
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.360
Alis, just with Alice technically would
be like seven point three I believe.
709
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.159
But then if you ad Johansson on
that, once they get the clarity,
710
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.880
that's where you get the extra.
Yeah, and then and again they'll forget
711
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:13.519
guys. We have what close of
five million dollars in dead buyout space one
712
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:17.400
year left on di'angelo, and this
is why I don't Yeah, that's why
713
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:21.079
I don't think they're gonna be doing
any more buyouts. I think they're gonna
714
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.880
just eat the year. You know, fine, potentially try to trade some
715
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:28.559
of these guys fifty retained for the
year, like Atkinson, if they can
716
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.559
try to move him from fifty percent
retained, I think it makes sense.
717
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.599
Yeah, yeah, I think they
I think they waited out. It's possible
718
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.519
they buy out Atkinson, but I
definitely don't think they're buying out Peterson,
719
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:42.159
like yeah, I mean, because
that recapture's not worth it, right,
720
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.199
you might as well just eat the
one year. Then you're done. With
721
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.239
it, right, whereas Atkinson,
I think it would only be like a
722
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:52.639
million points something as the buyout,
but over three years, yeah yeah,
723
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:59.039
or something like that, yeah exactly. I think with Atkinson you might as
724
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:00.639
well to just bite the bullet and
kind of play with the final year.
725
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:05.039
Though. I do think for Cam
like, if the Flyers eat enough,
726
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:08.800
maybe they can find some like team, like maybe a team like a Utah.
727
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:12.760
I think it depends on how he
comes in next year. If he
728
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.800
has like a good start to the
season, I think it's a lot more
729
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:20.320
tenable for a team to take him
for half the year or whatever, like
730
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:23.920
a trade deadline. Yeah yeah,
but if he's playing well, you know,
731
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.280
right now, I don't know exactly
where he fits on this team,
732
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.239
especially with the way he was playing, which is why. Yeah, but
733
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:36.239
I really think that it's it's just
best to suffer through it. It sucks
734
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.599
it almost it sucks to say out
loud. To suffer through it for one
735
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:45.039
more year and do not hamper your
cap next year. You already have Hayes
736
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:46.840
at three point five million on your
cap next year, right, You're about
737
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:52.800
to lose all these older players.
The LTI rs are about to come off,
738
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:54.880
right, Johansson's going to be gone, Peterson's going to be gone.
739
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.719
Ryan Els, I still think has
two years left, maybe even believe so
740
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.199
maybe two or three. Yeah,
it might be even three. I'll check
741
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:09.440
it up on punk pediah And uh, you know, like I just feel
742
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:15.239
like it's best to just stay patient, stay with the course, don't panic
743
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.440
and try to get competitive, just
be like, we're gonna eat it for
744
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:22.039
one more year. This is a
rebuild, right they stated that, So
745
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.800
rebuild would be you know, we're
gonna sit with this contract that we don't
746
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:29.440
want here, but we know it's
gonna be gone. You know, you
747
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:34.800
know, you open yourself up after
that, right because basically after the next
748
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.599
season, you're gonna get a ton
a ton of cap space that's potentially,
749
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.280
uh you know, could be used
to make additions, even different types of
750
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.360
trades. So and once you have
that cap flexibility, a lot of moves
751
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.920
can open up, right depending on
who's on the move player wise. So
752
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.679
next year right now, without the
cap going up, and I don't even
753
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.400
think it's listed on punk pedia yet
officially that the cap has even gone up
754
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:00.760
for this year, because it says
they're in the negative. They're stating thirty
755
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:06.880
one point five million dollars of projected
cap space for the Flyers, and that's
756
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.239
without this increase, so it's probably
closer to thirty five million of project and
757
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:15.320
this is without resigning players that need
to be resigned, So it won't won't
758
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.360
be the money though. Yeah,
and the following year in twenty six twenty
759
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.280
seven, forty eight point seven million. Now, again it won't stay that
760
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:28.360
way, you know, but it
shows that it jumps that much over this
761
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.719
one year, so you can tell
this one year is like and that's almost
762
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.360
like if Mitch cob doesn't end up
coming over this year and he comes next
763
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:40.719
year, fine, you know,
it sucks for us, but as far
764
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.719
as like a plan, you can
around him. Yeah, I mean,
765
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.559
and he's a year older. You
know, he's still going to have like
766
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:52.079
a three point five million dollar cap
hit regardless of what his initial cap hit
767
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.519
will be because of signing bonuses.
So you know, that's a substantial amount
768
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.639
of money. So let's just say
Flyers will have about twenty million in cap
769
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:05.039
space the following year. We can
confidently say that that is substantial. That
770
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.679
is, and that's without the cap
going up again, right, which are
771
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.239
well, a year to year here, Right, So it's most like you're
772
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:16.360
gonna be around twenty five million with
players signed with connect me resigning with the
773
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:20.440
players getting their extension. You can
do a lot with that money, right,
774
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.880
And you know you're bringing a really
elite potential talent like mitchkov that could
775
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.119
draw you know, interest from other
players. I might want to play with
776
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:29.880
him. So, right, it's
a good situation to lend yourself into.
777
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:34.239
And why subtract from that cap space
when you don't have to? When you
778
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.880
probably know, okay, you moving
in n Atkinson or not moving, but
779
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.880
you buying out Nakazin, you buying
out a Peterson? Is that extra money
780
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:45.639
really gonna benefit benefit you that much
this season? Like, it doesn't really
781
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.239
make sense from a roster building perspective, so you may as well wait,
782
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.400
right, I would say the caveat
would be if there is a player,
783
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.880
let's just say, who's the top
free agent? Not stampcoast, like a
784
00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:00.599
younger free agent? Is there anybody, like let's go like Tarvinen or something.
785
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:05.719
I don't know what's his name from
Florida? Oh my god, Ryan
786
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:07.039
Hart? Right, Yeah, there
we go. Let's just say this is
787
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:12.559
completely hypothetical. This is not happening. Let's just say he wants to be
788
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:16.360
in Philadelphia, like that's where he
wants to be. He'll even sign here
789
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:20.639
for let's say nine and a half
million, right, So it's a reasonable
790
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:22.559
cap hit for a guy who just
put up fifty goals. You're like,
791
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:27.840
Okay, yes, maybe then you
buy it. You're like, Okay,
792
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.679
we have an opportunity to add this
top end guy here, and all of
793
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:35.239
a sudden, we're gonna be a
more competitive team immediately. Maybe then we
794
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.400
consider a buyout for one of these
players, right, because it'll give us
795
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:42.360
the money we need to inject the
guy in currently. But we know the
796
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.079
Flowers aren't doing any of that,
right, Yeah, So we don't need
797
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.880
to worry about that because that's not
happening anyway. Right, And Ryan Hart's
798
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.519
not gonna want to come here because
we're not good enough to attract the top
799
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.280
free agents yet unless mitchkov comes here, which I could see some players being
800
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.719
drawn to that. You know,
I think for the most part, most
801
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:02.880
veterans are not going to really care
that are you know, on the second
802
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.519
half of their career or towards their
last four or five years, they're they're
803
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:13.119
not gonna be interested in coming here
if they're like a big money player,
804
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.119
you know, well, yeah,
they're gonna be looking to either you know,
805
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:17.840
out of Stanley Cup to the resume
if they haven't, or they're gonna
806
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:22.440
be looking at like maximum dollars.
Right. Well, doesn't this show kind
807
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:27.000
of like not Florida's process exactly?
Right? But it shows the process working
808
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.320
in action? Right? What do
you have available to you? The draft
809
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:37.119
and minor free agent signings, waiver
pickups do you have or trades? Right?
810
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:38.840
So those are the four options you
have. But what are you really
811
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:43.719
limited by these these money restrictions?
Right? So you have to get super
812
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.559
creative. Look for Ryan Palings,
look for Garrett Hathaways. Look for these
813
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:52.639
guys to kind of make you more
competitive culture wise, like Florida, Right,
814
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:54.960
you're looking for those golden nuggets.
Hopefully you find when you have one
815
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:59.559
more year until this cap opens up, and then you can go out and
816
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:04.320
get a guy that you truly believe
in if he's even available at that time,
817
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.320
because it might be the following year. So you have to really be
818
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.719
patient and not hamper your cap situation
because you want to be competitive right now,
819
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:15.039
and I feel like, this is
what really sunk Fletchers. For whatever
820
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.880
reason he spent. He spent a
lot, he spent when he didn't have
821
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:22.039
it to spend, you know,
and he was the team now in a
822
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.360
second well, and we weren't good
enough. Well, I guess the argument.
823
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:29.039
We had one great season there,
but we weren't good enough to be
824
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:34.199
like, oh, we're a guaranteed
Stanley Cup contender every year. We have
825
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.760
our core down, they're all,
you know, fully developed. We were
826
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:42.639
really at that stage. So like
he kind of overbought when it wasn't the
827
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.639
right move. If he was more
patient, he probably wouldn't have sunk himself
828
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.960
so hard. And the risk of
line in trade is pretty big proof of
829
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.920
that. It was like, we
probably needed that mid first round pick,
830
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:55.719
that number, I think it was
thirteenth overall in the draft, more than
831
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.400
we needed rist the line and at
the stage we were And it seems like
832
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:04.039
the Flyers are are assessing the situation
a lot better, and I think that's
833
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:07.039
what's gonna help us get through This
is a little more patience for at least
834
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:12.719
another year until you see this team
get substantially better because they have to clear
835
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:16.400
out cap space and it seems like
it's happening naturally already. And if they
836
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:21.320
really go out and they bring in
a big name player before they're ready or
837
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.360
whatever, it's gonna hamper them even
more because it's going to show that they
838
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:27.119
need buyouts. They're gonna have to
trade assets to get rid of money,
839
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.519
and none of that will help us
get to where we really want to in
840
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.960
the proper way. That'll be like
overreaching, right, like spending money in
841
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.719
your bank account that you really shouldn't
be spending and then you look back at
842
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:40.559
your bank account and go, oh, a lot of good. Yeah,
843
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.880
that was a tough month. You
know, I had some fun, but
844
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:47.000
you know I'm broke now, right, Like that's what Fletcher did to us,
845
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:51.000
and I don't feel like the Flyers
are doing that. And the reason
846
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:53.679
I think that image appealed to so
many people because I think it kind of
847
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:58.840
brought hope that oh, well,
like we don't have to listen to the
848
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:04.039
tank crowd, because there's multiple ways
of doing it, and there's a pathway
849
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:08.480
that you can see of actual improvement. Point to Florida and say look at
850
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:13.199
this, point to Vegas, even
point to Colorado, like they drafted a
851
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:16.159
bit more. But a lot of
their significant you know, moves came through
852
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:22.159
trades like Valeria Nachushkin huge part of
their Cup run, like they signed they
853
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.719
you know, they did not draft
him. So yeah, you know,
854
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:28.760
it's not always through the draft you
got you got to have your big player.
855
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.840
Sometimes through the draft, like look
at Florida at Barkov number one center,
856
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.599
ck Plaid number one defenseman. Usually
those type of pieces you might get
857
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.039
through the draft. But to supplement
and to find the right guy to supplement,
858
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:43.599
it might be other avenues. Right. Let's be honest here though,
859
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.199
and XBLO is what twenty eight I
think right now? Yep, if we
860
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:52.159
rewind four years, how many people
had Keblad as a top ten defenseman in
861
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:54.400
the NHL. I mean, I
don't know how many people. I always
862
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:58.480
thought he was a really good defenseman
even four years ago. I don't know
863
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:01.840
about top ten, but top twenty. Yeah, because like a look at
864
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:07.440
his points, Like he doesn't have
any season where he's ever under twenty points.
865
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:09.360
So well, but okay, but
twenty points is to people a third
866
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:15.280
pairing defenseman, right fairly? Yeah
my point. I always have been high
867
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:16.840
on that Blad. This is not
me diminishing him at all. My point
868
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:22.159
is the perception around him was not
where it is today. You know,
869
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.639
what I'm saying is that it took
time to build this team together for and
870
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:30.199
look at perception around Sanheim. I'm
not saying Sandheim is that blad, but
871
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:35.400
in the perception around actually shout out
to high and wide. Because we were
872
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.559
talking about this in our in our
chat with Jamie, is that you know,
873
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:42.320
he put out a poll of what
would you rather have Zegris or York?
874
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:46.880
And I thought it was really interesting
that York won pretty handily won that
875
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:51.000
that pole that he put out there. Yeah, and it's like, well,
876
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.400
did you think when we drafted Cam
York, which is what I was
877
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:57.599
saying to people, like did you
think you'd be this high on Cam York
878
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:00.760
or were you just disappointed with Cole
call Field. It's like I think people
879
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.760
just you have to let time kind
of you have to hope and it's key
880
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:08.199
though, and it sucks their development, right, Yeah, but it sucks.
881
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:12.719
It's that's not a selling point to
a fan who's investing money in their
882
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:17.639
time patience. Yeah, I get
that, but that is the reality.
883
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:23.760
You know, so like have your
have things you know, measured internally accordingly,
884
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:28.000
because that is what you're gonna have
to go through for this. And
885
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:32.280
I imagine we're in another year here
of this removal tweaking, and I think
886
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:37.559
most people listen to this podcast degree
that we're not going to see a substantial
887
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.119
move until next year. But it's
laid out for you in the financials and
888
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:45.800
if you spend time on puck Media
you will see that, oh definitely.
889
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:49.960
And that is a perfect segue in
our next topic, which is cat Friendly
890
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:53.440
is going away. After the draft
and after the opening of free agency,
891
00:58:53.519 --> 00:59:02.400
the Washington Capitals have officially purchased the
it's crazy to say cap Friendly as an
892
00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:07.760
internal tool. They will be bringing
that website in house. That is pretty
893
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:10.159
upsetting to me because I'm on there
all the time and I really use the
894
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:15.480
site. However, there is puck
Pedia and punk Pedia actually reached out to
895
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.599
me a few years ago, and
now I feel kind of bad about it.
896
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.199
It should build more of a relationship
to them, but they have us
897
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:28.199
listed on their page. We are
one of the Philadelphia Flyer media resources listed
898
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.440
on there, so that is pretty
cool. But get used to it.
899
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:34.440
I mean, it's so far,
you know, I'm not really seeing anything
900
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:37.039
lacking. I did love the armchair
GM stuff. I don't I don't even
901
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:42.400
check to see if they have that
on here. I'm sure they'll have more.
902
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:45.280
Yeah, But like you figured now
they're gonna be like the main kind
903
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:51.199
of competitor for this. They're gonna
probably ramp up and realize ye user base
904
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:53.760
is gonna go way up. Yeah. So, like I saw people even
905
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:57.880
mentioned online like maybe now is the
opportunity to start a news site. So
906
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:00.440
I'm sure there's gonna be other people
that might start a site as well.
907
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.719
It's kind of similar. My thoughts
on it is like, at least I
908
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:06.239
was really surprised because I use cap
friendly a ton, so it kind of
909
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:07.360
sucks that now it's going to go
dark and you can't really use it.
910
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:10.039
But puck pedia is a good resource
as well, and I've used it in
911
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:15.960
the past two But basically, like
my thoughts is, either the capitals wanted
912
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:20.280
to acquire all the data associated with
cap friendly and make sure all the other
913
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.760
teams could no longer use it,
which is possible, or maybe they wanted
914
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:30.119
to hire some of the cap friendly
team and then also also use the infrastructure
915
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:34.320
of the site as well. Right
internally, like you were saying, and
916
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.039
this is kind of their way of
doing that. But I'm interested, like
917
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.159
the capitals don't really put it like
a press release or at a press conference
918
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:45.199
or really the idea. So I
listened to see this is what I heard
919
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:49.440
from Charlie O'Connor, so I'll give
him credit on here because from what I
920
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:53.159
understand, this is what Elliott Friedman
was talking about. That it was discovered
921
01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:58.760
because teams were trying to renew their
So there's a they have like a different
922
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:00.480
they don't they have like a public
model for us to use, and then
923
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:05.400
they have like the business model which
you can actually like partner with cap friendly
924
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:09.679
interesting and get their resources internally,
which is kind of pathetic. Not that
925
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:15.039
cap friendly is pathetics pathetic that there
is no resource available to NHL teams too.
926
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:17.960
Yeah, that's funny to think about
it, that they were trying to
927
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:23.000
renew and found out that they couldn't
renew beyond and that's how Elliott Freeman found
928
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:28.360
out that they couldn't renew beyond the
draft and free agency, and that they
929
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:32.119
were going to finish out their agreement
with the teams. The NHL teams now
930
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:37.880
and then the Caps are going to
get internally for themselves. But I hope
931
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.280
that this actually is kind of a
wake up call to NHL teams, to
932
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:46.159
the NHL is like there is a
huge demand for this resource, you know,
933
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:50.599
not only just for us, but
for the teams in the NHL.
934
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:53.360
There has to be a dedicated resource
for them, for one and for us
935
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:58.039
there will Now there's puck Pedia.
Who's going to be the leader and we'll
936
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:01.440
shout them out here every single time
now because I want them to grow.
937
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:05.880
But you know that this is in
high demand, Like this is something we
938
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:08.400
this type of service, Yes,
yeah, of course. No, it
939
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:13.760
is kind of weird that, you
know, NHL teams don't have their own
940
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:17.280
sort of like algorithm or some sort
of software theirs. Each team has their
941
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:22.239
own solution. So someone going to
cap Friendly, some have their own,
942
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:24.880
yeah, exactly. So like I
mean, maybe this is going to start
943
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:29.519
other teams kind of focusing in on
that more and kind of trying to build
944
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:31.079
that out more in how so,
I guess we'll see the fun part of
945
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:34.320
it. For me, at least, the fun part about the acquisition is
946
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.800
you have the Capitals buying cap Friendly, so they're kind of adding to their
947
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:46.079
capitals friendly, So yeah, that's
kind of a bummer. But also,
948
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:50.360
you know, congrats to those guys
and getting a big payout and uh,
949
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:54.400
you know, getting the recognition and
shout out to Pump Media because they're going
950
01:02:54.480 --> 01:03:01.079
to be our voice now. And
this all seems to be pretty topical stuff.
951
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:06.800
I don't know how I managed to
do this, but GM voting just
952
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:12.320
want to talk about it real quick. So there was GM voting around from
953
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:16.320
the media for GM of the Year, and Danny Brier managed to get one
954
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:22.320
vote for GM of the Year,
which I think is kind of well deserved.
955
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:24.320
I think if the team produced better
on the ice, like I think
956
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:29.360
if they made the playoffs, I
think he probably would have got more votes.
957
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.159
I don't think he deserves GM of
the Year just because there are teams
958
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:37.639
that were more successful this year than
the Flyers, but in the little that
959
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:42.119
he has done so far, and
we obviously have been kind of raving about
960
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:49.039
the Flyers patients and patients yet aggressive
nature at the exact same time, he's
961
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:52.159
had a lot of stuff to do
and he seems to have I don't want
962
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:54.039
to say ace them, but he
seems to have done a pretty good job
963
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:58.719
with pretty much everything that's been put
in front of him. The Goutier is
964
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:01.800
one's the only one where I think
everybody would still rather have Gotier, at
965
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:04.920
least on the surface level, from
you know, the fact that Drysdale is
966
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:09.639
injured and then everybody was so hyped
about Gotier. But outside of that,
967
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:13.559
I mean, he did kind of
everything we wanted him to do. And
968
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:17.679
even you know, the Sean Walker
trade bringing in Ryan Paling and we'll see
969
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:23.800
they have a he obviously drafted mitchkov
and they have another really important draft coming
970
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:26.079
up here. I mean, he's
been pretty lights out and it's nice to
971
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:28.679
see him get a little bit of
that shout out. Yeah. I think
972
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:30.320
a big thing for Breer is just
his ability to pivot. Like there's so
973
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:33.079
many situations that have kind of come
at him from out of nowhere, and
974
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:36.679
he hasn't looked like out of the
water really like somebody has been overwhelmed.
975
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:40.119
I think that's probably a big part
of it, right, Like you could
976
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:44.239
expect all these things coming and kind
of affecting the team this year when you
977
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.440
go like the Carter Hart news,
you know, the Cutter Gotier trade,
978
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:53.239
and then even last offseason with Provov
and the whole Hayes situation. So yeah,
979
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:55.960
he's dealt with a lot and really
a short tenure at this point,
980
01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:00.000
and he's hasn't really ever at least
in my opinion, hasn't really made it
981
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.079
any moves or made any decisions that
have kind of had me step back and
982
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:05.679
kind of questioned, Okay, like
why are we doing this, or like
983
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:10.199
a lack of faith. And I
think that probably lends it to the voting.
984
01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:13.079
It's kind of funny when you look
at the whole list, because so
985
01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.000
we can go through it, like
Jim Nill is first with one hundred and
986
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:23.159
eighteen points in the voting. Patrick
Alvin Vancouver's GM sixty six points in the
987
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:27.440
voting, a second, Bill Zito, Florida's GM is third, Chris Drury,
988
01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:31.840
New York's GM New York Rangers is
fourth, Don Sweeney Boston's GM is
989
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:38.360
fifth, Barry Trot's Nashville's GM is
sixth, Kevin Shevel day Off Winnipeg's GM
990
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:43.719
is seventh, Ken Holland Edmonton's GM
is eighth. Don Woodell, Carolina's former
991
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:47.280
GM is ninth, and then you
have Brier at tenth, and then Chris
992
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:53.599
McFarlane Colorado's GM at eleven, and
then Kelly McCrimmon Vegas is GM at twelve.
993
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:58.079
Like it's kind of crazy that Brier
for me is ahead of McFarland and
994
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:01.159
McCrimmon. But that just speaks,
you know, league wide to kind of
995
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:04.760
the job that he's done. Right, That he's ahead of two teams with
996
01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:10.920
that were really contenders going into the
year in Colorado and Vegas, so speaks
997
01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:14.400
to kind of the work Briers doing
and the fact that I think he's willing
998
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:16.480
to, like we said, explore
all options. Yeah, and I think
999
01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:20.280
it's been a really nice change from
Fletcher, who I think doesn't get enough
1000
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:24.719
credit for the things he did right, but the things he did right or
1001
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:30.719
wrong definitely damage this team. He
created as much damage as he did positive
1002
01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.920
stuff. Like he has a few
wins, but we can attribute some of
1003
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:38.039
those wins to Brent Flair too.
So no, of course, and I
1004
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:41.639
think two for Breer. The main
thing I think tons of people can understand
1005
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:45.599
and see this is just the creativity. Like if you look at Fletcher's style
1006
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:48.400
of being a GM and how he
kind of tried to acquire access or assets,
1007
01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:53.000
it was a very old school method. It seemed like there wasn't much
1008
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:56.719
creativity in the moves he was making
where his Breer is like a complete opposite
1009
01:06:56.800 --> 01:07:00.800
and he'll kind of explore any avenue
if it will better the team, multi
1010
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:04.800
team trades whatever, you know.
I don't think Chuck Fletcher had won multi
1011
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:09.599
team trade in his whole ten years. And I believe, I believe,
1012
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:12.559
Yeah, I think you're right.
I believe. Keith Jones mentioned this during
1013
01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:17.320
the press conference that he called Danny
Breer a really tough negotiator, and I
1014
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:20.480
believe that, like not surprising.
Look at how he was as a player.
1015
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:24.960
He wouldn't give an inch as a
smaller guy. Look at those battles
1016
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:27.920
in the corner, so I can
only imagine the way he used to battle
1017
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:30.639
on the ice in the corner.
Similar probably on the phone when negotiating.
1018
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:34.079
I think he's highly competitive, and
I think he comes with a plan like
1019
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:39.440
ready with a plan like and what
yeah, and always willing to walk away.
1020
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:42.000
And that's why I think it's so
important the Flyers take it slow this
1021
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:45.599
year, is that you're still in
a position where you have leverage in the
1022
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:49.400
position you're in because because they know
you're not being aggressive. They can't hold
1023
01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:54.480
anything over you. They can't hold
the retention over you. They can't ask
1024
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:56.960
you for more assets because you'd be
like, okay, well no deal,
1025
01:07:57.559 --> 01:08:00.760
right. And that's why I think
he's smart that he moved go to so
1026
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:02.880
early, because before it got to
that deadline, he's like, well,
1027
01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:06.119
I don't have a deadline, so
I can you know, I have another
1028
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:11.519
what year and a half or whatever
of retention when I traded this guy,
1029
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:15.079
so you know, you can have
him now and give me what I want,
1030
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.479
or you can wait until somebody else
gives me a better offer over the
1031
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:20.680
next you know, eighteen months.
So I think it was really smart.
1032
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:24.560
It was like one of those things
where it was like I'm not bullshitting here,
1033
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:27.359
Like if somebody doesn't want to be
here, they're gone. Somebody doesn't
1034
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:30.439
give me an offer and walking away, And if I have to not trade
1035
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:32.520
Sean Walker at the end of the
year, I would have done that because
1036
01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:35.479
I can say, hey, we're
fighting for a playoff spot, right.
1037
01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:40.199
But because he was in that position, he was able to get that first
1038
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:43.600
because the team's wanted the asset and
he could say, well, okay,
1039
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:46.600
then then I'll hold on to him. And well, we know that we
1040
01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:49.159
have a better chance of the playoffs
with him, and I go, it's
1041
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:54.760
either make the playoffs right or get
a first round pick, And he chose
1042
01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:57.960
get the first round pick, which
I think was the right move retrospectively,
1043
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:03.079
right, But making the playoffs was
his other avenue that he could tell the
1044
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:06.039
other GM and be like, well, we're still fighting for a playoff spot
1045
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:10.520
here, right, and great way
to negotiate. So it's all about leverage.
1046
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.079
Everything's always about leverage, and he
has it right now and I think
1047
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:17.000
he's utilizing it properly. All right. Next piece of news we have is
1048
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:21.479
the NHL combine happened. I don't
want to spend too much time on this,
1049
01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:26.640
but we can just talk about that
draft in general and around this.
1050
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:31.279
But there are the top performers from
the NHL draft. I'll just I don't
1051
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:35.159
really care that much about this stuff. I'll say that because it doesn't always
1052
01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:39.319
translate, right, Like you can
have a great score in a certain competition,
1053
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.159
but that doesn't mean it's gonna make
you a really good hockey player at
1054
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:45.600
the end of the day. So
they're also so young that just because somebody
1055
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:49.720
excels in something now doesn't mean that
they're going to be the best at that
1056
01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:53.720
down the line, you know what
I mean. And some of these younger
1057
01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:57.640
guys are not even fully really matured
or fully grown or really in their bodies
1058
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:01.600
yet that they're gonna actually like spend
the majority of their careers as NHL player,
1059
01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:04.159
So you gotta take it with a
grain of salt. But obviously if
1060
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:08.399
somebody performs really well, it's a
good thing. Yeah, But it does
1061
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:13.560
show you why some of these guys
are ranked where they are or why they're
1062
01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:16.119
having like great second halfs because maybe
they're mature and quicker, or they take
1063
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:21.399
their fitness more seriously. For instance, like left hand grip chet Luchenko is
1064
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:26.600
on the top of that list,
Kayden Lindstrum is number two. Again,
1065
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.119
Sasha boy Bear, I'll stick to
the players that people probably would know.
1066
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:38.399
He's number four. Brandis seg Niguard. Michael Brandison Niguard, the Swede was
1067
01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:44.439
number five on that list, called
Boudin. I still don't even know how
1068
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:49.199
to say that name properly. I
should I shouldn't. Yeah, he was
1069
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:53.119
seven, So I'm just looking to
top ten here and then the right hand
1070
01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:57.239
grip chet Luchenko was top of that. Again, Kiden Lindstrum was second,
1071
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:00.239
and then it kind of you know, Nigar was on there a seventh.
1072
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.239
So again these are all and they're
all pretty close except for Jett Luchenko who
1073
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:09.479
seems to be far and away.
I have the best grip strength both hands.
1074
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:14.600
The duration test went to Cole but
but Dwyne, I don't know.
1075
01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:18.279
Again, it's a good affort,
you reve. I appreciate it. Gabriel
1076
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:27.520
Eliason was number two. It's a
funny Swedish name. I will say that,
1077
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:31.600
the the kid Dean latn Roe,
Laton Rue, I forget how to
1078
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:35.720
say his name, the big kid
six seven, Uh, the project.
1079
01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:40.520
Yeah, yeah, so he he's
on there for duration, which I thought
1080
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:45.800
was kind of interesting. Though he's
going to be a project, but probably
1081
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:49.279
a late first round pick. Uh. Stane Soldberg who's kind of climbed up
1082
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:54.760
the charts the defense. And I
gotta say that name, like as a
1083
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:59.760
hockey name, Stane Solberg that it's
like, that's a man. I'm probably
1084
01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.600
saying it wrong. He's probably Styan
or something like that, but still,
1085
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:05.359
like, just get this, I
mean, just imagine coaches, like somebody
1086
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:10.600
covered the ship stand right like that. I love it. The v O
1087
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:15.920
two Max Oliver Josephson was number one, tied with tecause that's cardio, right,
1088
01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:19.399
it's cardio base. That's usually a
big test. Yeah, duration and
1089
01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:24.720
VO two Max are both kind of
Tjiginla's top of that list, which I'm
1090
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:29.880
not surprised at all, right because
of who his father is, but also
1091
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.239
like the type of guy's father is, Like how important it would be for
1092
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:36.680
son to be in good shape.
And then Maclin Celbrini was fourth on that
1093
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:43.439
list, and then hand and wingspan
measurements. See this is one where I'm
1094
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:50.640
like, what does this really mean
matter? Yeah, latn Rue was obviously
1095
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:56.279
top by far top of that list, and then uh, Eric Emery or
1096
01:12:56.319 --> 01:13:00.680
e j Emery was third on the
list and I've been seeing his name at
1097
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:04.840
the end of the first round.
He also had the best body fat percentage
1098
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:11.079
e J Emory so looking lean,
and Sam Dickinson was number two, tied
1099
01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:15.680
with Emory. Nothing really like the
high jump. Emory won that again by
1100
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:20.279
far. Uh so you can see
like this one, I'm almost like kind
1101
01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:23.680
of risky. It's like, okay, so you love the guy who's like
1102
01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:28.439
you know, kind of a physical
freak, but that doesn't could just be
1103
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:31.439
at this age that he's that.
Yeah, also might not matualize into hockey,
1104
01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:35.880
you know, like he had by
far the highest vertical jump and what
1105
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:40.960
is that like good leg strength,
I guess for skating, Like how does
1106
01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:44.079
that pertain to hockey? Like I
don't know, Like I some of these
1107
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:48.079
make sense to me, Like some
of these combine things. I mean,
1108
01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:50.800
how many times have we gotten in
the past, and there was guys that
1109
01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:55.520
like were not good in these and
like are really good hockey players. So
1110
01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:58.720
it doesn't always translate. The hockey
sense I always find is a big one.
1111
01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:00.439
You can't measure how to think the
game and where to go on the
1112
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:03.079
ice, and usually for good at
that you're a pretty good player. So
1113
01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:08.640
and then je Luchenko was second on
the vertical jump and then no arm jump.
1114
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:18.520
Uh Emory again was fourth. Squad
jumps Emory was fourth. Yeah,
1115
01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:21.000
I don't know anybody, if any
team, I mean, if any team
1116
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:26.199
takes fitness into account, e j
Emery, Like, don't be surprised if
1117
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:29.119
he's in the first round at some
point. Maybe that's kind of what this
1118
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:32.520
tells you is like some of these
guys are in better peak physical condition than
1119
01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:39.000
other. The one I really liked
is ze boyem uh he. He had
1120
01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:45.399
the most pull ups, which again
not relevant to hockey at all, with
1121
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:51.039
sixteen pull ups his training man,
let's go yeah. Lucas Fisher was second.
1122
01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:56.079
Tigi Gindol was third with thirteen.
I can bust out. I can
1123
01:14:56.359 --> 01:15:00.920
pretty much do sixteen pull ups,
but I'm a full grown man. Yeah,
1124
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:03.840
I think like sixteen to twenty for
their age, Like that's pretty solid.
1125
01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:08.600
If they hit twenty, that's at
that age, it's ridiculous, Like
1126
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:12.640
they were probably NHL players that can
surpass that substantially. Oh yeah, for
1127
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:15.079
sure, being a teenager and doing
that kind of stuff. Because not all
1128
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:20.680
of these guys really understand fitness.
Like we know that Mitchkov wasn't like killing,
1129
01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:24.079
like he was spending more time on
the ice than in the gym,
1130
01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:28.039
And honestly, I do think that
like when you're a player developing at that
1131
01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:30.760
age, sometimes it can be more
beneficial to be on the ice. I
1132
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:33.960
think when you're making that transition to
pro hockey, then maybe that's when the
1133
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.880
fitness needs to come in, Right, That's exactly what I was thinking.
1134
01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:41.199
Where I'm like a lot of these
guys are gonna take their fitness more seriously
1135
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:46.000
once they hit pro hockey. So
it's like none of this really matters pretty
1136
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:49.000
much. Yeah, you don't think
about it from this respect of like just
1137
01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:53.640
doesn't matter much. No, But
like think about you, think about being
1138
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:58.760
a seventeen eighteen year old, like
were you like deep into a fitness reshiment
1139
01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:00.920
at that point. Like, I
don't know what I think this this was.
1140
01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:05.880
I think this is like one because
we know so we know that this
1141
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:10.199
was like something that's been around for
a while. I think this is something
1142
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:13.239
that's like a little bit history.
They always do the combine. Of course,
1143
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:15.720
I think it's a little more historic
than it is relevant today because you
1144
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:20.119
can get like a lot of like
you don't need this type of information today.
1145
01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:24.279
This seems like kind of what they
looked at back in the day,
1146
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:27.520
you know, and it was an
opportunity to get all these players in one
1147
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:32.800
room to talk to them potentially because
they didn't video calls and email. You
1148
01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:34.720
know, it wasn't the same back
in the day. Well, I know
1149
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:39.600
a big part too, is like
they do interview teams do a lot of
1150
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:42.479
interviews with these players. Prepping up
to the drafts. So I think maybe
1151
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:45.640
some of the interview process might be
even more important, like figuring out the
1152
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:49.399
character of a guy I saw online
like this crazy thing Apparently some NHL team
1153
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:54.920
was asking yeah, or it was
Utah exactly, you know exactly what I'm
1154
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:59.119
talking about. Utah was asking players
like how much would they tip their Uber
1155
01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:02.840
driver? And what was their ubers
score? Uber score, that's what was
1156
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:06.760
there? You score from that the
driver gave them what was their average review
1157
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:11.960
score, which, like, I
mean, I don't know how much indicator
1158
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.000
that is, Like I understand how
you treat service workers can kind of tell
1159
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:17.359
a story about like if you're a
piece of shit or not? Are you?
1160
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:23.800
Yeah, exactly? But also like
you got a factor in and these
1161
01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:27.000
guys are eighteen, so I want
to say, like all these guys are
1162
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:30.680
you know, like first of all, are they even ubering a lot at
1163
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:35.119
this age? Anyway? Like who
knows? Like usually the only time I
1164
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:38.960
use in Uber is if I'm drinking. All these guys are below that age
1165
01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:42.800
to even legally do that, So
that's one thing to factor in. But
1166
01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:45.439
like, yeah, I don't know, I don't know how much these scores
1167
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:48.399
are really a big deal. Personally, I'd ask different questions to tell character.
1168
01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:53.479
That's my opinion, but I don't
think it matters that much. But
1169
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:56.319
I do agree with you. I
think the interviews, it's an opportunity to
1170
01:17:56.319 --> 01:17:59.720
interview guys without pulling them away from
their life. And you have your team
1171
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.560
on and and scheduling. You know, we always assume scheduling is easy as
1172
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:06.279
being fans, but as somebody who's
worked a professional career and you as well,
1173
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:11.680
like getting meetings together is annoying.
So you just have access to everybody
1174
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:13.920
there. You don't have to ask
them to fly over, you know.
1175
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:16.159
Like so I was such a big
deal that we got Mitchkov over, you
1176
01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:19.640
know, we like flew him here
for two days and had them in our
1177
01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:24.119
facility. Like that was dedication by
mitchkov to be like, oh yeah,
1178
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:28.439
I'm in you know, like that
doesn't normally happen what happened with That's why
1179
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:32.159
it was such a big deal that
before a player is yours, you're spending
1180
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:36.079
forty eight hours with your organization,
you know, at your stadium, with
1181
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:42.439
your ownership and leadership and decision makers. That was a huge pick for the
1182
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:45.439
Flyers, huge factor all yeah,
and that kind of goes into the next
1183
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:49.800
topic. And I guess the big
piece that I took away from everything and
1184
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:53.600
this was going you know, I
saw this on Twitter, is that the
1185
01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:59.359
Blackhawks did take Lefshinov out to dinner
and that was the only player that they
1186
01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:03.560
took out to dinner. Look,
I've said it from the beginning we started
1187
01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:08.319
talking about this draft. D will
go above forwards. It happens every year.
1188
01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:12.279
We're always in denial about it because
everybody always wants the flashy guys,
1189
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but defenseman, top defenseman are so
hard to find and you need one to
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01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:19.199
win. Look at any like past
Cup team in the last five years,
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01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:24.439
they all have a really solid top
defense in top pair. So while Demidov
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01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:30.199
might have or Demidov might have the
highest projection, none of that really matters
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01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.119
because we can't actually project players one
hundred percent. But it does seem like
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01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:38.000
they will be going with Lef Shanov
at number two, which should kind of
1195
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:40.680
shift the narrative a little bit.
I think, you know, he was
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01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:43.720
kind of slated by most people to
go number two, but I think it
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01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:47.399
kind of at least clarifies that.
And I'm sure that NHL teams kind of
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assume that lev Shanov will be going
number two anyway, because he's probably number
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01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:56.840
two on majority of teams lists because
of the fact that he projects to be
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01:19:56.920 --> 01:20:01.720
a potential number one defenseman and you
know, they already have one. They
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01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:05.319
have a slew of other forwards there, but they have their number one center.
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01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:09.680
You know, if they can get
their number one defenseman, it makes
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01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:14.279
sense for the check check, you
know, the way the way to build
1204
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:16.319
a team, right, you want
to get that number one d obviously and
1205
01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:19.119
things like that. So no,
it totally makes a lot of sense.
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01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:23.039
And I would say too, like
if you look at Demeatov, I did
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01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:27.479
see some rumors and some things kind
of stating that it's possible, like there's
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01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:30.680
certain teams and there's you know,
certain rumblings that he might you know,
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01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:34.800
fall potentially and he might not even
get selected in that top five. So
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01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:41.560
interesting, right, similar to kind
of the mind, it could be like
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01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:44.119
if you're the Flyers, here's a
caveat, Like, if you're the Flyers,
1212
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:47.000
let's say Demetov drops to like seven
or eight, does that interest you
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01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:49.640
to try to move up to grab
him. I think I'd be interested,
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01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:53.720
but I don't think we'd be willing
to pay the price for it. Would
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01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:55.880
Yeah, I think it would be. It would be a huge price.
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01:20:55.960 --> 01:21:00.039
Of course, it would at least
cost our second first round pick. And
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I think the flyers are more interested
in doubling up their odds rather. I
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01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:10.319
guess if it depends on how low
you would fall, you know, I
1219
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:13.960
totally agree would depends how LOWE falls. I mean, if he comes close,
1220
01:21:14.439 --> 01:21:16.119
But then what would stop that other
team from being like, yeah,
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01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:19.640
at a certain point, he's the
best player available, So you know,
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01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:27.239
I don't know. It was making
me think about zame Perek, who seems
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01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:31.479
to be kind of listed all over
the place, kind of like Carter Yakamchuk,
1224
01:21:31.760 --> 01:21:34.800
who also listed all over the place. But like, what do you
1225
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:39.560
think about a guy like zame Perek
who it does seem like they'd be doubling
1226
01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:44.960
up on the Drysdale one. But
he's you know, he's a very shifty
1227
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:49.680
defenseman, very potentially you know,
an eighty point defenseman in the NHL.
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01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:53.720
You know, maybe you know,
I don't think he's as great of a
1229
01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:58.000
skaters, like when hughes or something, but he does have ridiculous hands and
1230
01:21:58.039 --> 01:22:02.439
he has a ridiculously quick, and
he obviously knows how to produce points.
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01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:05.720
I mean, the guy was one
of the leaders in points in the entire
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01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:12.039
OHL in his draft year as a
defenceman. It's ridiculous to put up ninety
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01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:15.000
plus points as a defenseman in your
draft year. So it's like, what
1234
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:18.279
do you think about a guy like
Perek being taken a twelve by the Flyers
1235
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:21.680
even though he doesn't think it's go
ahead? Yeah, I was just gonna
1236
01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:25.560
say, I think it's totally possible
that Perek gets taken. I mean,
1237
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:29.720
I think the Flies are looking for
upside at least for the defenseman in terms
1238
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:32.359
of like, Okay, we want
guys that either are gonna be the whole
1239
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:36.920
package, like a Yakamchuk who kind
of like really good defensively but also has
1240
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:41.800
a boom offensively and has the size, and then if it's not gonna be,
1241
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:44.600
that's gonna be a guy like almost
the macar ilk, where like,
1242
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:48.199
okay, can you know quarterback that
power play, really good offensive instincts,
1243
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:51.640
really good first pass. So I
could totally see it, like I think
1244
01:22:51.680 --> 01:22:55.560
for the Flyers, and the good
thing for where they're at though, is
1245
01:22:55.720 --> 01:23:00.840
there's gonna be a lot of players
it seems like available that you know that
1246
01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:03.399
seem to be good picks, right, Like there's Perect, there's potentially Zeve
1247
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:10.239
Boyung, Yakom Chuck, Sam Dickinson, Paul Eiserman, Consta Helenius, Berkeley
1248
01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:13.560
Catton. Like there's a list of
guys where typically like when you're picking at
1249
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:15.399
twelve, you're not thinking like,
oh wow, like I'd be happy with
1250
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:19.279
any of these guys, but really
like I wouldn't mind any of those picks.
1251
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:23.600
I mean, obviously we all have
our preferences, but it doesn't seem
1252
01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:26.680
like there's like, oh no,
like we don't want him, Like it
1253
01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:29.439
doesn't seem like there's that type of
player on the board, right I do
1254
01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:31.560
I do trust the Flyers too,
Yeah, I agree with that. I
1255
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:35.560
do trust the Flyers to pick the
right player. And like I tried looking
1256
01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:42.680
again to like Beckett Seneca, and
you know, I'm look, I don't
1257
01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:45.800
know enough about him. He just
doesn't seem to project as like a top
1258
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:51.199
player in the league to me.
But like I feel like other teams,
1259
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:54.680
like there are teams are gonna be
really high on guys that we do not
1260
01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:59.000
expect, and that might just because
it's so muddled, like you're saying that
1261
01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:02.279
there's gonna be like a that Luchenko
gets taken really high, or you know,
1262
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.239
that's gonna push somebody down to us
that we potentially didn't expect. I'm
1263
01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:12.439
still my top choice is still Berkeley
Catton as a forward. That's exactly what
1264
01:24:12.560 --> 01:24:16.800
I want to be drafting, is
one of my choices. I think Katten
1265
01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:21.840
or Eiserman. Interesting thing that I
saw on Twitter was seventeen at this which
1266
01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:26.920
is nuts. Yeah, Like I
saw a thing with like an interesting thing
1267
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:30.319
is that like if you notice the
Flyers selected Mitchikov last y, they didn't
1268
01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:33.319
really say too much about him before
the draft, and like if you notice
1269
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:38.680
they haven't really said much about Berkeley
Catton at all, so I wonder if
1270
01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:42.000
they're very interested. It's kind of
like a silence like is golden type thing
1271
01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:44.279
where like we don't want to mention
it too much because we hope he kind
1272
01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:47.000
of falls to us, right,
But it's definitely interesting thing to think about.
1273
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:49.840
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't
want anybody to know who I was
1274
01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:54.439
taking, you know, unless I
was working a deal to make sure that
1275
01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:57.720
that team got who they wanted and
we got who we wanted, and we
1276
01:24:57.720 --> 01:25:00.479
were going to move up. For
the most part, I would want nobody
1277
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:03.479
to know who I was, even
I wouldn't want anybody to know my list
1278
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:08.880
whatsoever. But I'm still open.
You know, if we do take like
1279
01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:13.439
let's say we take Seneca at twelve, I'm gonna assume the Flyers know what
1280
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:15.920
they're talking about. I'm not gonna
be like, oh, well he wasn't
1281
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:19.199
high on my list. Well the
shit, Yeah, They're like, let's
1282
01:25:19.239 --> 01:25:23.039
be real, right, Like we're
all armchair gms at this point, especially
1283
01:25:23.039 --> 01:25:25.199
when it comes to the draft,
and a lot of these guys we have
1284
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:29.479
not seen very much. So I
would say that you have to trust the
1285
01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:31.439
Flyer scouting staff, like they look
like they've done a pretty good job these
1286
01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:34.840
past a couple of drafts, and
I think Brent Flair usually does as due
1287
01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:39.119
diligence, and you know, he
showed, yeah, he knows his stuff
1288
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:43.079
with the draft, and he's also
you know, picked later and found some
1289
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:45.039
gems. So I think you got
to kind of trust the Flyers and what
1290
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:47.720
they're doing here with them. I'm
really excited to have Steve on next week
1291
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:53.439
to talk about company who actually watched
these guys, uh, you know,
1292
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:57.439
for a couple of years already shameless
plug now for next week's EPI, Yeah,
1293
01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:00.600
yeah, absolutely, And then remember
we're gonna be doing an episode with
1294
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:03.439
him before the draft and then immediately
after the draft too, so and that
1295
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:06.920
one I'm even more excited for to
talk about that. Just recap it all,
1296
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:11.960
talk about the players we've already taken, because I want to know who's
1297
01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:15.479
already going to be part of this
core. And the draft is exciting.
1298
01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:17.520
I really do trust the Flyers to
take to take the right players at this
1299
01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:23.039
point. I think even even the
cold call field. You know, when
1300
01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:27.479
we took Cam York, I wasn't
like panicking. When we took Cam York,
1301
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:29.600
I like looked into York and I
was like, oh, I was
1302
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:31.880
like, this is a really impressive
prospect. It's like this guy has top
1303
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.279
pairing potential. I was like,
that's what we need. That's why I
1304
01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:36.560
always say, like, even if
it's not the guy I want, even
1305
01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:41.840
if it's not Berkeley, Cat,
did we hit You know, if they
1306
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:45.840
take constant of Hellenius, it's because
they believe in Hellennius can be. Honestly,
1307
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:47.720
like that pick to be to be
I feel like everybody's like, oh,
1308
01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:51.239
it's such a safe pick. I
feel like people fail to realize that
1309
01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:56.279
he's playing amongst men. I think
that's just something that everybody's going over.
1310
01:26:56.520 --> 01:27:00.680
No, it's it's a great point. It's like he when you're watching highlights
1311
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:03.960
and one guy's playing against the OHL
and the other one's playing against like you
1312
01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:06.359
know, it is playing in Liga, you know, in the suite in
1313
01:27:06.399 --> 01:27:14.760
the Finnish Hockey League, like you're
the level of competition so different, you
1314
01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:17.359
know, And that's where like I
watched ze boyem and you don't look at
1315
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:24.560
his highlights as being like super flashy. But like going back to Helenius,
1316
01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:29.000
like yeah, okay, he's not
really flashy, but why is he producing
1317
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:36.520
better than all these other superstar finish
prospects. There's something too exactly right.
1318
01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:42.399
So it's like he's doing something right
to produce, you know. So I
1319
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:45.880
don't know. I'm My whole thing
is like I'm just gonna trust in the
1320
01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:51.800
Flyer scouting because they've done a really
good job of late and especially since Flair
1321
01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:59.279
has taken over. Like I wasn't
excited for Tyson Forrester. I thought he
1322
01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:00.640
was gonna be like oh, maybe
this guy will end up being like a
1323
01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:04.600
second line player. And now,
like I watch him play and I'm like,
1324
01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:10.359
oh lie, what I was really
excited for him. Okay, well
1325
01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:13.279
then you knew better than me because
I realized, you know, the only
1326
01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:17.199
reason why for Forster is I heard
Dale Howard Chuck with the late Dale Howard
1327
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:20.000
Chuck. Like I always mentioned this
on the show, but there were he
1328
01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:26.199
was very affiliated with the Barry Colts
and Sam Costantino, who's a draft expert
1329
01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:30.920
on sports Net, he did not
have Forster in the first round, and
1330
01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:33.279
Howard Chuck essentially reached out to Costatino
and was like, what are you doing?
1331
01:28:33.560 --> 01:28:36.960
You say you know draft prospects and
you totally missed on Forster. And
1332
01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:41.079
like when you have a legend like
Howard Chuck saying stuff like that, you
1333
01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:44.199
gotta you gotta pay attention to my
opinion. Yeah, look, you're probably
1334
01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:46.199
right, and that's the reality.
And that's why we talk about how these
1335
01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:51.600
prospect profiles and all this stuff doesn't
really matter too much. Like you have
1336
01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:56.000
to just trust in your scouting team. And I think the Flyers scouting team
1337
01:28:56.039 --> 01:28:59.760
has done enough right so far that
you should trust that they can hit on
1338
01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:02.680
these first round picks. You know, maybe we won't get the best player
1339
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:05.479
in the draft, you know,
but it doesn't have to be the best
1340
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:09.520
player in the draft. It just
has to hit, that's it. Like
1341
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:13.520
Anton Lindell is not the best player
from his draft, but he's a hit,
1342
01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:15.840
yeah, exactly, and he's making
he's playing a key role for Florida.
1343
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:17.880
So it's for sure. You gotta
get guys that can, you know,
1344
01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:21.720
make the NHL, make an impact. So yeah, got brought up
1345
01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:25.560
Eck last time, right, Like
wasn't the best player in the draft,
1346
01:29:25.840 --> 01:29:29.399
was a hit, big hit.
He was a later pick too, Like
1347
01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:32.840
you need to hit on the play
of the picks you have, and a
1348
01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:38.800
late first round pick shouldn't be expected
that that thirty one, thirty two pick
1349
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:43.600
will be you know, Like if
it becomes a Scott Lawton, that's a
1350
01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:46.159
hit. If it's a fifty point
player, well, if you can make
1351
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:50.520
if you even get a guy that
can make the NHL, usually it's a
1352
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:53.199
hit. I mean, obviously,
if you're in the upper first round,
1353
01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:56.119
you want them to contribute past the
first round. If a guy makes the
1354
01:29:56.199 --> 01:29:59.479
NHL, that's a hit. In
the range we're taking. I expect top
1355
01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:03.399
six four, top three defenseman,
right, and you have to at least
1356
01:30:03.439 --> 01:30:05.960
get that out of it. If
you get more than that, that's a
1357
01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:12.560
home like what the Flyers do with
Mitchcov at seven, getting a generational potential,
1358
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:15.560
generational talent, you know, in
the in a number seven pick.
1359
01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:21.199
That is, we got a first
overall caliber pick with the number seven.
1360
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:27.000
Oh totally, man, that's a
home. That's a that's a Grand Slam
1361
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:30.800
home run. All right. Uh, just want to reminder, please like
1362
01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:34.319
and subscribe, follow us on iTunes
and Spotify, give us a rating there.
1363
01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:39.359
If you're not subscribed on YouTube,
please do so. It's tremendous help
1364
01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:44.000
to us. So, sticking with
the prospect territory, so we'll do this
1365
01:30:44.079 --> 01:30:46.520
last prospect segment here, we'll do
playoff talk and then we'll end it.
1366
01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:54.359
So you found this about Mitchcov.
You sent this over a little bit earlier,
1367
01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:59.239
and you you pointed out an interesting
stat about Mitchcov that only four of
1368
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:02.680
his nineteen goal is scored this year
for SOGI. We're on the power play,
1369
01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:06.880
and fifteen of them were it even
strength. Yeah, so it's really
1370
01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:11.359
interesting. Yeah, I wish I
could pull it up on the screen and
1371
01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:14.800
kind of show it. But the
most interesting part about it, like is
1372
01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:16.880
where the goals are scored. Yeah, there you're getting at right. You
1373
01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:20.640
can kind of see that the goals
are all scored near the front of the
1374
01:31:20.680 --> 01:31:25.800
net. So it just shows like
anybody's saying, oh, he's a finesse
1375
01:31:25.840 --> 01:31:29.479
only player, doesn't go to the
net, completely mistaken. And if you
1376
01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:31.279
have watched Mitchico, that's one of
his things and one of the things about
1377
01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:34.560
his game that I actually really like
that for a skill forward, he's not
1378
01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:38.840
afraid to go to the net and
try to score and try to bury rebounds,
1379
01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:41.680
and that's usually where most of the
goals are had, right in front
1380
01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:44.199
of the net. So just for
him to be able to go to that
1381
01:31:44.319 --> 01:31:46.039
area at such a young age,
I feel like it only bodes well for
1382
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:49.279
his future development. You know what. That reminds me of Sidney Crosby.
1383
01:31:50.159 --> 01:31:54.720
It's like always near the net exactly. Yeah, he can score goals all
1384
01:31:54.760 --> 01:31:57.560
around the net, no matter where
he's at. And I think it's interesting
1385
01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:00.800
because Sochi definitely didn't have a good
power play right or one of the worst
1386
01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:03.960
teams in the league. So like, it also goes to my previous point
1387
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:10.000
that elite players cannot fix your power
play, not overnight like that, like
1388
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:14.920
you have to have a good power
play in general stuff. Yeah, it
1389
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:20.560
also shows that the guy can produce
at five on five against men. You
1390
01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:24.520
know, if if it was like
the opposite majority of those goals were all
1391
01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:26.880
on the power play, it would
be a lot less exciting. That's like
1392
01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:30.840
more Patrick lion a territory, a
little more concerning, if anything. Right,
1393
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:33.479
Yeah, so I think it's a
really nice stat. And imagine how
1394
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:36.479
many goals he would have scored if
he was on a better team. Oh
1395
01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:41.319
yeah, exactly, if he was
playing on SCAFF for example. But oh
1396
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:43.680
yeah, that was just something interesting. I wanted to bring up Reguardi Mitch
1397
01:32:43.680 --> 01:32:47.840
cover. He loves the mitchikalv stats, so I figured there and hopefully we
1398
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.159
get some news on him in the
coming weeks. Right, we're still waiting
1399
01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:55.319
on that, but we'll see right
as thirty, Yeah, we're like three
1400
01:32:55.359 --> 01:33:00.720
weeks away from the deadline there,
Well, fake everybody, we have no
1401
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:03.880
idea of late end of June is
actually the deadline. We just suspect.
1402
01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:09.840
And then the other thing I have
here is this is another prospect list and
1403
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:15.680
Obviously McKean's list had the flyers at
seventeen. Scott Wheeler of the Athletic has
1404
01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:19.680
his own list and he has the
flyer six, so go figure by that
1405
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:24.720
one and his uh shows the disparity, right, Yeah, his top ten
1406
01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:30.439
and I don't agree with this order
either, but his top ten order is
1407
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:35.920
Mitchkov Bonk Brink. He's still his
Brink as a prospect, which I kind
1408
01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:44.439
of a little confusing. Andre Rizzo, Denoie, Coolosov, Barkie and Siernick
1409
01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:48.800
and Tuamala. I don't agree with
the order of this top ten. Mine
1410
01:33:48.840 --> 01:33:53.399
would be slightly different. I also
don't know how good Rizzo is because I
1411
01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:58.359
haven't really watched too much of him. I think Tumala, Barkie, and
1412
01:33:58.439 --> 01:34:00.640
Kolosov should all be higher on this
list. Yeah, I feel like having
1413
01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:09.399
Kolosof, Barkie, Tuamala even at
all. Yeah, even Dyer higher than
1414
01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:13.439
Rizzo's kind of puzzling. Maybe Scott
really likes what he's seen from Rizzo,
1415
01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:15.479
obviously, like I haven't watched a
ton of him, you know, play
1416
01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:19.680
or really a lot of footage from
Rizzo, but just like he was I
1417
01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:25.199
believe what his final year of college
and putting up insane numbers, so like
1418
01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:30.239
when you're at that age in college, I mean not the same. Yeah,
1419
01:34:30.279 --> 01:34:31.880
it kind of lends to why he's
putting up those types of numbers,
1420
01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:34.600
whereas like you could say the same
for Barkie, he's like, you know,
1421
01:34:34.640 --> 01:34:38.640
in his draft plus one in the
OHL, but I think he's just
1422
01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:42.640
so much younger in his development that
like the upside would be higher ultimately.
1423
01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:45.720
And Evendoie, like he almost had
a did he score twenty goals last year
1424
01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:48.239
in the AHL? If not,
he was pretty damn close, but I
1425
01:34:48.279 --> 01:34:53.880
know he led the Fantom the goals
hit twenty Yeah, So to have yeah,
1426
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:56.680
so to have Danoie the guy who
led the Phantoms in goal scoring last
1427
01:34:56.680 --> 01:35:00.640
season in the AHL in pro hockey, lower than a I who was you
1428
01:35:00.640 --> 01:35:03.000
know in n C double A like
a little puzzling. But I do think
1429
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:06.439
that Scott's ranking in terms of like
where the Flyers prospect pool is at like
1430
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:11.479
six, that's a lot more accurate
than yeah, seventeen that we talked about
1431
01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:14.520
last weeks. Yeah, And I
think I think Mitch CoV carries the big
1432
01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:16.960
brun of that. I think we
got Mitch CoV it's vastly less impressive.
1433
01:35:17.039 --> 01:35:23.840
It's probably more closer to seventeen because
we had graduates too, Like well,
1434
01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:29.479
one we lost go Tier and replaced
Gotier with Drysdale. Drysdale who's the same
1435
01:35:29.520 --> 01:35:32.760
age as as Brink. So again, that's why I'm like, Brink played
1436
01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:36.840
like almost an entire season. Forrester
is not on here. You know,
1437
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:41.520
if you have Gotier and Forrester and
let's say you keep Brink on there,
1438
01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:45.159
well, if you have Brink,
how do you not have Forster not?
1439
01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:48.199
Yeah, that's why I'm like,
and that's why I'm not shitting on Scott
1440
01:35:48.239 --> 01:35:51.600
Wheeler at all. It's more just
like, that's why I tell people not
1441
01:35:51.720 --> 01:35:56.399
to take these two seriously. Again, the Flyers had the best prospect pool
1442
01:35:56.479 --> 01:36:01.319
in the league ranked didn't pan out. It's like, I've learned my lessons
1443
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:04.319
from this that these lists are content
pieces at the end of the day,
1444
01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:08.880
right, these need to produce content
and need to run something. So they
1445
01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:11.640
said, hey, run up this, right up this prospect list it we'll
1446
01:36:11.640 --> 01:36:14.840
get some hits. I guess people
talking. So that's that's really what it
1447
01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:16.239
is. I feel like a lot
of this stuff like there is an analysis,
1448
01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:18.199
but a lot of it too,
is like a talking piece in a
1449
01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:20.520
sense, right, Yeah, I
think you're right. Yeah, it helps
1450
01:36:20.560 --> 01:36:26.800
us for our show. So I'll
say this, there are least ten prospects
1451
01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:30.439
on this team worth talking about that
you can project to be NHL players,
1452
01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:33.800
which is a great sign. And
I like that he didn't have Ronnie Addared
1453
01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:38.560
on there, who's almost twenty five
years old, not a prospect at this
1454
01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:44.439
point. Yeah, so I just
thought that was interesting, just you know,
1455
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:49.479
nice change from McKean's. But I
just I that's why I don't care
1456
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:53.560
too much who we take, because
I'm just going to trust in the flyers
1457
01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:58.039
scouting over a scouting website, you
know, regardless of how much they watched
1458
01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:01.600
the player. I'm just like I
kind of trust the NHL teams more than
1459
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:06.239
I trust the research I do online, you know, Yeah, exactly for
1460
01:37:06.319 --> 01:37:11.319
sure. And also, like you
got to think how much of these guys
1461
01:37:11.359 --> 01:37:15.600
are these teams watching that they're really
like focused on, versus a scouting website
1462
01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:18.560
for example, that has to kind
of scout all these players for all these
1463
01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:23.720
different teams. I feel like there's
less of a focus right from that perspective.
1464
01:37:23.720 --> 01:37:27.039
So do you think so I'm like
thinking right now, while you're talking,
1465
01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:30.800
like, so Montreal is still bitter
about not taking Mitchkov for Ryan Buck
1466
01:37:30.920 --> 01:37:33.640
they take try to trade for Demedhov. Well, no, I was actually
1467
01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:40.399
thinking about the opposite that because we
brought Mitchkov over. Right, it's a
1468
01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:44.319
clear like no other team had that
time with Mitchkov like we did. Right,
1469
01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:47.359
it was obvious that Mitchkov wanted to
come here. He had leverage,
1470
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.720
Right, he plays in the KHL, he can stay there, Right,
1471
01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:56.960
he had leverage, he could somewhat
control his destiny, and he allowed himself
1472
01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:00.840
to drop all the way to seventh
come to Philly. There's no way that
1473
01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:03.760
Montreal wasn't interested in taking Mitchkov.
He probably just didn't want to go there
1474
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:09.079
to some degree. I don't think
he was like, oh, but I
1475
01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:12.560
think he had leverage in his situation. And I do think about Demidov and
1476
01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:15.680
you're talking about him dropping, like, I'm not saying that Philly is going
1477
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:19.960
to be I mean maybe because Mitchkov
is here and they probably know each other,
1478
01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:25.760
you know, but you know,
could Demidov be dropping because he also
1479
01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:30.600
has a preference and he's in the
same or very similar situation as mitchkovah is
1480
01:38:30.640 --> 01:38:34.720
all the leverage, he's a high
end prospect. It's possible. I think
1481
01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:39.479
it's definitely possible. Like, I
think the thing with Mitchkov is Montreal was
1482
01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:43.479
pretty adamant and like from sources and
things that we heard that Montrealist wasn't going
1483
01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:46.479
to take the risk to take him
with the whole Russia factor, But if
1484
01:38:46.520 --> 01:38:50.159
he gave you the guarantee, like
then you're definitely not going to take him.
1485
01:38:50.279 --> 01:38:54.000
Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. Like, but if let's say
1486
01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:59.600
Mitchkov went and spent two days in
Montreal right with there, he could be
1487
01:38:59.640 --> 01:39:01.720
a complete different story. Yeah,
don't you think they would have taken him?
1488
01:39:02.039 --> 01:39:05.720
But they don't. Mean, Like, if you're not getting that guarantee
1489
01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:10.880
from the player, why take the
risk when you could select somebody else that
1490
01:39:10.960 --> 01:39:12.960
you know is gonna want to be
on the team long term? Right,
1491
01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:17.159
Because David Reinbacker, Like, let's
say mitchkov does the whole three years in
1492
01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:21.600
the KHL, David Weinbacher is not
coming, is not playing for the Montreal
1493
01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:27.199
Canadians probably even next year, right, and even if he does, he's
1494
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:30.399
not gonna be a huge impact on
that team. Yeah, you know he's
1495
01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:32.840
gonna be playing fifteen and sixteen minutes
a night. You know how much of
1496
01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:36.920
a difference really, if you look
at it, you're gonna make a franchise
1497
01:39:38.039 --> 01:39:42.800
changing decision over one year difference.
It just seems like when we were talking
1498
01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:45.439
about the interviews and all that,
like that is the big part of this
1499
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:48.479
is like is this guy gonna fit
in with our team? Does he want
1500
01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:51.720
to be here? And when most
players don't have leverage, you know,
1501
01:39:51.840 --> 01:39:57.479
like these OHL players don't have any
leverage and Cuba players do. And that's
1502
01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.720
where we're angry at Gotier because he
told us he won to be a flyer
1503
01:40:00.920 --> 01:40:03.520
because NCAA players do have leverage.
Yeah, then they flipped the script off
1504
01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:05.920
and that's what he did. Happen. That's why we're bitter with it,
1505
01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:11.399
because you we bought into you with
our fifth overall pick, you know what
1506
01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:13.600
I mean, We would have let
you go if we knew you didn't want
1507
01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:17.359
to be here, right, I
just hated to think about Definitely interesting.
1508
01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:23.000
Yeah, yeah, all right,
So last topic, NHL playoffs. As
1509
01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:29.520
we speak right now, the Florida
Panthers just beat Edmonton. I think it
1510
01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:32.640
was for one. Yeah, yeah, it was for one. I'm getting
1511
01:40:32.640 --> 01:40:36.119
the two games mixed up, so
they won for to one. In the
1512
01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:40.199
second game. They won three to
nothing in the first game. Serga Bobrovski
1513
01:40:40.239 --> 01:40:45.239
has only given up one goal.
Edmonton did have. You know, I
1514
01:40:45.279 --> 01:40:49.560
wouldn't say vastly, but heavily outshot
Florida in the first game. In the
1515
01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:54.880
second game, it was all Florida. Edmonton like pretty much didn't stand a
1516
01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:58.880
chance. The games are getting gritty
out there, and I know Barkov is
1517
01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:02.239
now questionable. A high hit on
dry Sidle. Who should be suspended a
1518
01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:06.720
game for that high hit or at
least find Yeah that was enough. That
1519
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:11.359
was definitely a dirty hit. Yeah
that's ridiculous that he didn't even get a
1520
01:41:11.359 --> 01:41:17.199
fine. But you know, it
does lend back to what I've been saying,
1521
01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:20.079
you know, what I was actually
thinking about before the series started.
1522
01:41:20.199 --> 01:41:25.600
This reminds me of the Detroit Red
Wings versus the Flyers series where we got
1523
01:41:25.640 --> 01:41:28.960
swept, where we had Eric Glendraws, who was arguably the best player in
1524
01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:32.880
the world. Yeah right, and
yet we couldn't win a single game against
1525
01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:38.880
Well just because the depth of Florida
is just overmatching. I would say Edmonton
1526
01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:41.760
in every aspect, though, I
will say, like the first game,
1527
01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:45.199
I mean, if you look at
the shot totals, right, like Bobrovsky
1528
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:49.840
thirty two saves, gets a shutout. You know, Florida only gets seventeen
1529
01:41:50.399 --> 01:41:56.199
shots on net. So I do
think in a sense like Bobrovsky steels Game
1530
01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:59.479
one and then Florida really has all
the momentum because they're at home, and
1531
01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:00.800
then now you're up to nothing,
and it's the same like a finals.
1532
01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:03.760
So it's gonna be really really hard
for Edmonton to turn it around here.
1533
01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:09.600
And if Florida wins Game three,
it's definitely over. Yeah, coming back
1534
01:42:09.640 --> 01:42:13.199
three nothing down the finals, with
all that pressure, it's it's pretty much
1535
01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:16.159
done. Like I'll go back to
it. I said it last week,
1536
01:42:16.279 --> 01:42:20.359
like I thought Florida would win just
because their goaltending surpasses Edmonton's. I have
1537
01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:24.279
more faith in Pebroska as a goalie
than Skinner. Have to say that Skinner
1538
01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:28.199
can't eventually drop one day. But
he's a very young goalie still, right,
1539
01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:32.760
Like he very young twenty four,
Yeah exactly, I believe, so
1540
01:42:33.119 --> 01:42:39.119
I'm interested to actually see now he
is twenty five, So still very young
1541
01:42:39.119 --> 01:42:46.439
for age that goal actually you know, come back, so yeah, or
1542
01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:49.119
I was gonna say yeah, usually
the age that like goaltenders enter the league
1543
01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:54.199
right like for Skinner at twenty five, so that's surprising. He might be
1544
01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:58.399
struggling a little bit in that situation. But yeah, just looking at it,
1545
01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:00.239
like, I just can't see a
way that Edmonton comes back. And
1546
01:43:00.439 --> 01:43:03.880
I mean we did see this last
with the Dallas series, but I think
1547
01:43:03.880 --> 01:43:08.359
it's completely different in the sense that
it just looks to me that Florida has
1548
01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:11.960
all the momentum in the series,
Like there hasn't been a time where Edmonton
1549
01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:15.600
is really controlled play or controlled long
stretches and being able to capitalize, Like
1550
01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:20.840
they went up one nothing and then
Florida immediately scores four goals straight and beats
1551
01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:24.560
them four to one, right like
they they are up one nothing and they
1552
01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:29.159
can't even build on that shut out
two for Florida, like Evan Rodriguez having
1553
01:43:29.199 --> 01:43:32.880
a huge Finals so far, three
goals in only two games, so he's
1554
01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:38.520
really coming through. But I think
as long as Bbrovsky continues this solid play
1555
01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:42.079
of like either a shutout or allowing
one goal, I think it's going to
1556
01:43:42.119 --> 01:43:45.239
be really hard for Edmonton to get
back in. I will say this,
1557
01:43:45.439 --> 01:43:47.600
if Barkop doesn't play next game.
If he is, that's a huge loss.
1558
01:43:47.680 --> 01:43:53.079
Yeah, it's a huge change.
Because he is, he is a
1559
01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:57.920
player capable of shutting down McDavid,
were moving him, McDavid could run wild.
1560
01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:00.800
So that's something they got to obviously
fact or into. But we'll see
1561
01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:04.439
what happens. Like, I have
a hunch that Barkov will play. I
1562
01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:06.840
mean, if he can, right, you gotta think it's the finals here.
1563
01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:11.199
But I mean if he can't,
we'll see if Edmonton can capitalize.
1564
01:44:11.239 --> 01:44:15.199
I think if let's say, for
some reason, you know, Barkov cannot
1565
01:44:15.239 --> 01:44:17.640
play, it'll be interesting to see
if if you know, Edmonton can get
1566
01:44:17.720 --> 01:44:21.840
back kind of into into the series
here, right, Yeah, it'll be
1567
01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:26.079
interesting. I don't want to say
it's gonna be over in a sweep or
1568
01:44:26.119 --> 01:44:30.000
anything like that. So we should
expect Edmonton to potentially win game three here
1569
01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:33.119
and make it interesting. It would
be more interesting to watch. But again,
1570
01:44:33.159 --> 01:44:38.920
my money's still in Florida and Depth
wins championships. I've been saying that
1571
01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:40.960
it's like, you don't need to
have the best player in the world.
1572
01:44:41.039 --> 01:44:43.239
You need to have players who can
play against it. You need to have
1573
01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:45.359
the best team, right, ultimately
not the best player, but you have
1574
01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:48.439
the best team that's cohesive together and
can kind of get into that point,
1575
01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:54.279
and that has size in the playoffs. And you know, I I heard
1576
01:44:55.319 --> 01:44:58.439
and again I'm not knocking Charlie o
Connor because I like him and I think
1577
01:44:58.479 --> 01:45:00.199
he's a smart guy. But I
heard him, don't play the size thing
1578
01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:03.439
again, and I'm like, I
don't know why you're not learning that.
1579
01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:10.720
The NHL teams are not stupid.
Size is extremely physical, especially in the
1580
01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:14.680
playoffs. Right, It's a wearing
down, a team, breaking down,
1581
01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:17.760
a team constantly for checking. Teams
are looking to do those things in the
1582
01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:20.840
playoffs. Yes, and look,
Leon dry Saddle is a big dude.
1583
01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:27.680
He took out Barkov and that wasn't
legal, but still played. Still,
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yeah, exactly exactly if they come
back and win because Barkov's out, they
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still got a championship. If they
come back and win because Barkov's out,
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Like that play will almost remind me
of Richard's injuring Crachie back when the Flies
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were down through nothing to Boston.
But it's true though, Like one player
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like that could have a huge difference
in the depth all the matchups. So
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we'll see how Florida kind of plays
it going ahead. That's a big knock
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on their depth. But yeah,
Florida is still my pick and we'll see
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how it materializes it, I think
agreed. I mean, I hope I
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was gonna say, I hope Edwardson
at least wins one game, so it
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doesn't land up being a sweep,
right, Like, we want to see
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some sort of competitive hockey. So
yeah, and I will say credit to
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Edmonton the show that they could play
team defense, like maybe not at the
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level of Florida, you know,
but they didn't get here by accident,
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01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:17.239
right, Yeah. I think that's
impressive is that the team around McDavid and
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dry Settle have improved dramatically over the
past several years. Where they were a
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01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:27.920
team that really couldn't shut teams down
to now a team that was able to
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shut down Dallas, that was able
to get out shot heavily and still win
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that game. You know, that
stuff matters, and they're building through that.
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So I would expect them to be
a force next year for sure.
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All Right, dude, that's it. Anything you want to leave our audience
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with uh no, So, I
mean we're coming up on the draft pretty
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soon. So we're gonna have a
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degree dot com. So please,
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it all have him on again after
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