FKN Classics Double Feature! | Joe Atwill - Hidden Hand | Robert Kalil - Conspiracy Buffet

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Today, I want to welcome back to the show Joe Atwill.
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He is an author and researcher that began his religious
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studies as a youth in Japan at Mary's Military Academy.
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After selling his shares in the software industry, he engaged
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into biblical studies and his research into several historical topics.
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Joe, welcome back. How you doing.
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I'm just fine. How are you doing?
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Excellent?
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It is great to have you back on looking forward
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to this talk. Last time you're on, we discussed a
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bit about the history of the ruling class control systems,
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and today I'd love to get your insights into what's
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unfolded into our modern control system, some of the groups
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behind it. How we seem to be witnessing attempts at
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forced prophecy and apocalyptic program attempts to try and manifest
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chaos and new forms of control. But before we get
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into any of this, remind the audience just a little
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bit about yourself.
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And your work.
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Well, I'm certainly best known for work I did on
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the origins of Christianity. I wrote a book called Caesar's
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Messiah that was made into a documentary. Both the book
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and the documentary have been surprisingly big sellers, you know.
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And I also wrote a book on Shakespeare called Sake
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Bear's Secret Messiah, which it basically it shows the relationship
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between the kind of typology that I indicate in the
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Gospels have to do with the Roman provenance of Rome
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creating religion. And this was sort of a sort of
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a hidden understanding that certain groups had of Christianity. The
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material that I brought out in Caesar Messiah. I wasn't
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the first person to see this. Other groups had understood it,
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and so the group that produced Shakespeare had understood it,
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and so that led to analysis I did in The Tempest. Now,
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the two books, you know, you have to pay for,
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but the Tempest analysis is available for anyone. You just
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google my name in the Tempest and you can see
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that that play is is cryptic and has a kind
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of a meaning people haven't understood today, which is that
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it's really about a kind of reaction against Roman Christianity
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by a group of you know, kind of occulted Jews.
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And so when you understand the sort of typologic meaning
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of The Tempest, you can see it's actually describing, you know,
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a kind of military response to sort of the Christian culture,
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and that the Jews are hidden they are you know,
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in that era they were called moranos or conversos, so
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they didn't really reveal their identity though they kept their
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you know, their Jewishness part of their mind and soul,
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and they just presented themselves as Christians, which of course
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they had to do legally. For example, in Britain you
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had to be you couldn't be Jewish in this area,
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you had to they had been expelled. You had to
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be a Christian. And so you know, when you read
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that analysis, which is important in relationship to the modern
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world because in the in the play you get the
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expression brave New World. It comes from, you know, a
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statement in the Tempest, and when you put it in
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the context of my analysis, you can see that Huxley
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and Kipling, the people you didn't use the expression later on,
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we're talking about a kind of slave state that could
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be established in which Christianity and Christians would be reduced
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to very low levels. You know, in Huxley's case, you
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have the classes of intelligence alpha through epsilon, and the
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state would control the production of children, they would control
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the education, and this would be the brave New World. Well,
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when you look at the analysis of the idea of
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the Tempest, which shows that the play the Tempest is
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actually a man of station of Isaiah's prophecy in the
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Old Testament and in the Book of Isaiah. You have
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all of the events in the Tempest, or the events
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and the tempests are drawn from Isaiah, and I show
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that heretofore scholars really haven't seen the complete all of
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the connections, and if you actually do understand them, you
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can see that it's leading to a kind of bad
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place for the Gentiles. So this then was sort of
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a you know, kind of platform from which I, you know,
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coming it's sort of odd a coming out of the
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studies of the New Testament and then the Shakespeare literature
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that you would get into you know, modern conspiracy theory.
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I mean, how does this actually connect? But seeing how
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they were looking at the prophecies of Isaiah, I certainly
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was suspicious of this. And then when nine to one
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one occurred two thousand and one, I could easily understand
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it because of my background, which unfortunately wasn't really held
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by many people. But I knew that the date had
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been chosen deliberately. This was critical that nine one one
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is the date of the that Jews celebrate, so they
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mourn the destruction of the temple. The temple was destroyed twice.
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There was two temples. They were both destroyed, and the
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date of this destruction was nine one one. It's a
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type of logic representation. It would be written nine one
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one in Hebrew, though it wouldn't be September eleventh, but
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they are representing it that the date typologically. And then
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remember that in two thousand and one, one of the
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buildings that was destroyed was the Solomon Building, which of
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course sort of you know, kind of they were tipping
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their hat to the building of Solomon and the destruction
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of that. But they chose the date because it would
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be the first year of the third millennium. So you
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have two thousand and one, and now instead of the
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it's reversing the typology, and now it's the sort of Gentiles,
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you know, economic temple that's being destroyed and the brave
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new world is being established, you know. And so that's
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why nine one was chosen as the date for it
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in September the first, and that's why there was so
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much foreshadowing of it. This was easy to understand for
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people inside the secret society that manipulates these things, they
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would understand the date. And so you see dozens of
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representation of nine to one one leading up to the
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event right in Hollywood movies and whatnot. And that's just
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because they people would under stand that that would be
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the first date of the new millennium from which they
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could start the brave New World.
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And so.
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This, uh, you know, I found like troubling of course,
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you know, as to well, who are these people? And
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I wanted to to point out I'm not you know,
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accusing like Jews in a general sense here, I'm saying
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that as as you would have with like the mafia,
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you know, having its origins and with Sicilians, it isn't
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the Sicilian people that are producing it. The group that
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share this ethnicity that use the ethnicity as part of
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their way of maintaining.
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Something almost hiding behind it in a way.
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Right exactly. And so it's so they can they can
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keep the people inside their immediate circle at you know,
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as a trusting close level, because they should or the ethnicity,
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but they don't take this information to their general ethnicity.
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I mean, they eat the If the Sicilian people knew
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who were the members of the mafia were and you
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know they would they would probably strike against them. And
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I think the same is true here. I call the
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group you know you're talking about, who are the people
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that do this? I call them like udo Masonic because
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you have so many secret societies and the Masons being
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the prime example, that are involved with this. So if
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you look at like, just look to take nine one one,
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you have so many people who are a Jewish background
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involved in the whole overall structure. You have Larry Silverman
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and dancing Israelis, you know, all these people, all these
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connections into the event. But then you also have the
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Bush family who are purportedly you know, Christian at least
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they maintain this, but they're also part of Skull and
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Bones for general and well, Scull and Bones is a
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secret society and obviously is an annex of Freemasonry. If
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you look at the symbolism, you know it's obviously as
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some relation to Freemasonry. So so who are and what
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are Christians who maintain, you know, allegiance to a secret society.
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I mean I would just say, look, these people are
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Christians with an asterisk because really know, you don't really
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know what they are, you know, at a at a
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deep level, because they they're in a secret society which
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is secret. Therefore you don't get to understand the oaths
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they take, are, what the goals are, and you don't
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know if whether they or not they're using their Christian
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identity just as a cover for other kinds of activities.
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I mean, if you just take like any kind of
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CIA agent, for example, and you say, well, you know,
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what do you do? The person doesn't say I'm a
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CIA secret agent. They have some cover story. It's just
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you know, obvious, and so the same thing would be
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the case here where being a Christian is useful right
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as a cover, but you can't really be sure that
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they are. In the Middle Ages. The issue, the problem
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with Converso is probably the biggest problem that you're faced
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in that they saw that there were, you know, or at
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least they maintained that there were a lot of conversos
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people who had been Jewish, who have converted Christianity that
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were still operating in the Jewish context and were sort
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of in a way organized against Christianity. So they had
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these inquisitions which we're trying to find, you know, what
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are the background of people with what their real allegiance are.
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I don't think they came to any good results, but
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they certainly were aware of the problem. Now I would
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suggest you know, you ask like, well, who are the
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secret society members? I mean, the oligarchs are to identify,
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but they're hard to really know exactly who they are
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and what they are because they have these identities which
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high think their reality. The way to find out would
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just be do DNA testing. I mean, if you look
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at the Rockefellers and the Wrothchilds, well who are they?
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I mean there are people who claim the Rothschilds aren't
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even Jewish in historically. I mean, I don't know how
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much evidence they have, but they there are people who
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make the case. They just say they use Jewishness as
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a way to protect their real identity, which has to
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do with Venetian dark family secrets and things. You know,
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there's all kinds of conspiracy theories about this. But how
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do you know, Well, you really, what you need to
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know and which we need to know about our political
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class urgently, it's who they are, Who are they really?
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Who are they related to? What is their real ethnicity?
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When you look at all of the malevolence that the
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population is suffering because our political class is a secret society.
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You can see. It's just absolutely urgent to get to
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the bottom of this because, I mean, if you look
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at like the collapse of Building seven, I mean, just
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going back to you know, two thousand and one and
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nine to one one, it's completely obvious that it's controlled demolition.
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I mean, it's just ridiculous to argue otherwise. There's just
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that you can see, there's dozens of videotapes of the thing.
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It collapses symmetrically and at free fall speed. And they
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claim that fire was the cause of this because it
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wasn't struck by a plane. Well, you know what I
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say is that, look, if you want to make this
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as even a reasonable position that it's not controlled demolition,
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you have to show at least one example of a
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building that was not controlled demolition that collapses symmetrically, and
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or you have to show one example of one that
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controlled that a building, a steel frame building that falls
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at free fall speed that was not controlled demolition. If
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you don't have any examples, if there's no examples in
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history either one of them, then the fact that both
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of these unique phenomena occurred at one time, and they
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are aspects of controlled demolition, then you really can't bring
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this as a reasonable position to the public. But here's
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my point is that, well, then why aren't the political
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class trying to get to the bottom of it? You know,
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why do they maintain this ludicrous position that it just
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came down in some kind of weird, you know, complicated
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manner that no one can really explain or understand. Why
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can't they just admit the truth? Well, the point I'm
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making is that the whole political class is a Judeo
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Masonic ses. I call it a cesspool because that's really
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what because of the line. And these are intelligent and
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albeit a moral people, but they are assesspool because they
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have to lie. There's just all this line that goes
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on just chronically, you know, to the public. Well, this
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is you know, has always been a burden. I mean
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you look at World War One and World War Two
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and the Masonic control over those those events. You know,
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Europeans have been systematically genocided, right, systematically genocided by by
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these activities which the political class brings about and the
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public suffers from because we have no understanding or control
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over what we refer to as the political class. I mean,
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you know, World War One, the all of the it
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was a complete Masonic project on on the on the
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British side, for example, all the generals were Freemasons. But
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on the on the the German side, I mean, the
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Kaiser was the he was a cousin of the King
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of England and they're both Masons. They're both grandchildren of
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Queen Victoria, who is the Queen Bee Freemason, you know.
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So you have that situation and then a war that
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has no coherent explanation as to why it would start,
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and the next thing you know, you have sixty million
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people dead. Well, there's something wrong here, and the political
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class has you know, has failed. And yet we don't
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really get to analyze the political class closely or replace them.
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So the same situation is happening today. I mean, if
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you look at just the present news stories right now
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this day, you see the Ukrainian situation which is and
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I would say is completely incoherent. There's no belief or
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you know that, or even that it's possible that Ukraine
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can withstand you know, Russian attacks. They're going to lose.
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Why is the why is you know, the Zelensky and
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NATO not suing for peace. Well, I would say it's
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the same reason. To me, I would say the best
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explanation is that it is the same explanation as to
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why World War One broke out and then why it
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lasted for so long and led to nothing except for
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a big pileot of European bodies. What you're looking at
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in Ukraine is just depopulation of Europeans. That's really what
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Zelenski and NATO have in mind here. Now, what you'd
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want to do is get DNA testing of every single
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person involved in the decision making, all of the EU
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ministers who are in favor of the war. You'd want
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to see the US like Biden, people like this, like
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who are they? Why would they permit such a useless slaughter?
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And now I would say, the casualties are up over
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a million on the Ukrainian side, So why would they
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permit this when they know perfectly well that in a
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few years it's all going to end up basically as
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this area under the control of Russia. No matter what
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they do, NATO has shot its bolt. They don't have
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anything really more to add in terms of weaponry. The
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militaries of Europe, the ones that native would draw them
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have all been demasculine. I mean, there's hardly anything there
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left in terms of actual fighting units. So the situation
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is just completely ridiculous. Why is this being permitted to
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go on? And I think that the answer would be
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to understand the political class that's creating it. And then
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on the other side of you know, the Mediterranean have Gaza,
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which is just again, I have like a lot of
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relations with people in Israel. Caesar's Messiah was popular there
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and so I have like podcasts that I do, and
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I know that I know people, and they're very upset
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about what they see is an inexplicable explanation for October
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the seventh. They have no belief that the story the
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government's telling them about that is real. And if you
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look at it, it's sort of like Building seven, and
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you know, you have just a lie followed by a
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stone wall where they don't permit any analysis of the lie.
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On October seventh, you had automated border technology, and the
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Israeli border technology is basically so good. It is a
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product sold worldwide, right, the LBIT border technology, which is
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primarily automated. Now, I don't know exactly the you know
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what techniques they were using, but I know in twenty seventeen,
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al Bit, the company it's an Israeli company that creates
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the border technology, gave a little summation of what they
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were doing, and their claims was that it was automated. Okay,
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you had things like land mines, automatic like machine guns
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and these things a literally controlled by AI. Every square
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inch of the border is up as observed twenty four
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to seven. And the explanation that well, we the Israeli
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has got complacent is not coherent. I mean, how complacent
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can a landmine get? Right? I mean how complacent can
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automatic weapons that are controlled by you know, sensors that
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humans are not interacting with. How complacent can that be?
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And remember this occurred there was fifteen different intrusions by
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purportedly by Hamas fifteen. So you had this automated technology
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fail fifteen times, oh for fifteen. Then you have whistleblowers
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from the idea of who came forward who had worked
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on the border and they said, you know, this is
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impossible every four because it isn't just the automated technology.
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There's there's layers of redundancy, the humans that actually are
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observing all of the area of the of the border,
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every forty yards. One of them said, there was human
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eyes on this this section, and they're trained to not
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even look sideways. They're trained to just keep their eyes
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on this, this the little area that they're in control of.
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The one woman said, you couldn't get a pigeon across
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the border without us knowing it. So now they the
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intrusion occurs without evidently any of the automatic systems, you know,
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preventing it going off. Land mines, automatic you know, machine
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guns and things they somehow come across. But here's where
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it just gets ridiculous because since the humans then would
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know and see that, well, you've had intrusions by terrorists
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into Israel, the IDEF would respond with its you know,
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mechanized machine gun helicopters immediately. They would have wiped out
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this rabble within within three or four minutes. They could
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never have gotten quarter mile into Israel. They would have
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been seeing helicopters with I mean, they have so many
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munitions on these things. They just they can blow up
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one hundred square meters in a second, you know. But
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they didn't, they didn't do anything. In fact, the first
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response that you can identify seven hours later right where
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the idea of shows up and you start having you know,
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the situation starts to get under Israeli control. Well, that's impossible.
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It's just impossible. You just can't do that length of
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time without military response along the Hamas border. The autumn
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failure of the automatic weapons is ridiculous. I mean, all
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of this is really preposterous. It makes it's just completely inexplicable.
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So it's so inexplicable that the agency in Israel that protested,
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and this is very important, it was the Controller. It
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was the person who is writing the checks and and
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he was furious because he said, look, we'd paid for
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all this technology. It failed completely. I mean it was,
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oh for fifteen, it's not supposed to it's supposed to
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be ninety nine point ninety ninety ninety ninety nine, and
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it was, oh for fifteen. I want to see where
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money went. The Controller brought an inquisition, you know, an
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investigation into into what happened, and Sunday the High Court
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shut it down saying because they said, well, we've received
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information on a secured basis, in other words, top secret
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public can't see it from the military saying that this
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would damage the military activity, and Gauza of the idea, Well,
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I would say, yeah, that's probably a very true statement,
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because if the if the investigation continued and it would
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just become completely obvious that there was a standdown, that
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this was this was done with the idea of creating
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enough of a news story and enough you know, purported
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violence against Israelis that they would have a pretext for genocide.
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This whole thing is an obvious standdown to create a
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pretext so that they can go to the world opinion
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market and say, look, we're not genocidal races. We are
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just fighting back here, we are defending ourselves and hamas
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Is see how bad they are. But I mean no,
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I don't think any clear minded, serious person can take
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that as an honest explanation of it.
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Well, what do you think the intended outcome of all
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this is for the ruling class at least those that
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are on the side of this global enslavement and always
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have been. You mentioned World War One, World War two.
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There's these stepping stones throughout our modern history that led
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to where we're at now. I believe jfk assassination a
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nine to eleven COVID, and all the little opportunities in
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between January sixth and October seventh, these special dates where
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these high impact events occur that open doors for the
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next event to occur. What do you think is the
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end goal for all of this.
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I think they want the planet to themselves, and so
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I think you're looking at just a very slow motion
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genocide humanity. You know, you mentioned the COVID situation. There's
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now a lot of reports indicating that the birth rates
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have been affected by the vaccine, that ferm motility is off,
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that there's something in the vaccine that apparently has a
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sterilizing aspect. You know, this is science that's a little
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over my head. I mean, I do study it, but
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I think certainly, given the fact that COVID was not
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particularly dangerous, the idea of like forcing this kind of
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genetic operation artificial, you know, genetic operation putting RNA into
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every single cell and human body and having it perform
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an artificial function, there has to be some explanation. Again,
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it's inexplicable, you see, It's inexplicable except for the idea
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that well, it's just a gigantic sterilization project, right, that
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makes sense. You know, the so everything you know, you
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mentioned all of those, those different aspects of the process
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we've been tortured with over the last thousand years, All
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of them makes sense in terms of the thesis that
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this is basically trying to get the planet to themselves.
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This this group, and you know, I call it Judeo Masonic,
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but it certainly seems as though the oligarchs of many
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different ethnicities have been brought into the fold, right, I
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mean obviously ees and you know so so you can't
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without you know, more information, without some DNA testing, you
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can't really be sure what it, what it looks like,
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what it actively reflects. But I would say the best
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way to understand this is to read Deuteronomy or the
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Book of Isaiah. You know, you you get images of
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a post gentile world, and they're the people who are
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creating that literature are using gentile in a very broad sense.
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It just means non jew. You know, they're not just
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talking about Europeans. I mean in in Deuteronomy, they have
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you know, ethnicity seven ethnicities, seven being a special number,
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and all of these ethnicities are the Israelis are given
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permission to genocidet yahoo and this is really telling you know,
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this is a good way of understanding, of answering your question.
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I think this is a kind of the best way.
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Is that Netna who referred to the Palestinians last month
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as Amelek, now Amelek was a tribe, an ethnicity that
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in Deuteronomy God gives the Israelis a permission to exterminate,
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to genocide down to the last child. That's an important expression,
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down to the last child. Sot Ya who referred to
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the Palestinians as Amelek, didn't get a lot of play
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in the Western media. But the Israelis a lot of
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them people that I know, their eyebrows arch because they
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said their point was, and some of these people, incidentally,
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are very righteous, moral people. And a couple of them said, look,
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this is there's something wrong here because NETNAO is in
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fact killing children right now, and to use the biblical
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expression of a god given right to kill the children.
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This scene, as you know, kind of a psychopathic, you
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know position, but in fact it's just a fundamentalist position
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of of of you know, a certain sect of Jews.
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The way they interpret the Old Testament, the Old Testament,
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if you interpret it literally like that you are able
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to just create a world that you only have this
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particular group of Jews in inhabitation. And and I'm sad
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to say, but that's a pretty kind of rational way
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of looking at what we've been experiencing. They this group,
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we're very likely the Tectons, who are actually described in
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both the New Testament and in the in histories of
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Josephus as not regular Jews. There's some kind of well,
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it's they're freemasons there, they're in Greece. In Greek, the
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word tecton means freemason. It's it's actually the way you
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would you would describe freemason's Tectons. Well, so this special
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group are distinct from regular Jews. Josephus described them as
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being separate, and in the in the New Testament, Jesus
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is questioned as to whether or not he is a Tecton,
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and they say his father was a tecton. Joseph was,
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you know, his father was called a carpenter. But that's
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a complete misinterpretation. The word is actually mason. So they're
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wondering if and you know, I remember he dies at
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thirty three. You have this kind of you know, the
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symbolism is So what I think you have is a
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secret society. Well, it was well organized in the first
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century that basically went underground. I mean, you have the Knights.
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Templar would be the first kind of manifestation of them.
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But then that that is opposed by Christianity. You know,
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DeMolay is burned on you know, on the steps of
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Notre Dame on like Friday the thirteenth, I think it was.
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Then later on Notre Dame itself is burned on Friday thirteenth,
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So you have the kind of tit for tat, you know,
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sort of kind of connection between the events. But the
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Templars become the Freemasons, and then the next thing, you know,
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Masons start appearing in the political class. George Washington as
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a Freemason. So many of the presidents have been, and
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the ones who aren't or who weren't identified, I mean,
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how do you know. I mean, certainly over half of
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them were, but many of them you just have no
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idea what they are. You know, you have like Clinton,
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well he's not known as a Freemason, but he certainly
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was a demo lay. He went to de Molay School
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and he was the Premier de Molay student. You know,
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in the United States, he had certificates and awards and things,
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so very special individual claims to be a Christian. But
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you know, well you have this asterisk connection into a
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secret society like the Butch family. You know, you see
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Reagan and Nixon at the Bohemian Grove and you wonder, well,
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why why would they be part of a secret society
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if they're really sort of you know, these democratic you
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know individuals you know that are of people. You know,
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why do they need to be in these secret societies?
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Well it makes no sense except under the you know,
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the explanation I give that they are a lot what
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I call lifetime actors. They are they give a personality
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to the public for political gain, which is to say,
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to gain political power. But that isn't their real self.
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This is just what they tell us. And then the narratives,
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the histories that these people concoct are not the real
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histories they are. They're contorted so that we are believing
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what they want for purposes of control. I mean, like
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co of it. You know, the you know, it was
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supposed to kill ten percent of the victims, you know
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when it first came out, Well that was off by
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you know, fifty thousand to one is what it ends
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up being. Well, how could they have made these huge mistakes? Well,
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social control comes out of all of the inexplicable errors
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that they make. Like in Ukraine, you know, in Gaza,
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World War one, world War two, we're just constantly suffering
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from the lies you know that the political class gives us,
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so they can, you know, ratchet up the social control,
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ratchet down our population. And they're just in general heading
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towards this world world I described where they're the only
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ones in existence.
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Many look at the control system and have the understanding
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that it's based off of ancient occulted spiritual beliefs and
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ritualistic practices. But there's some that argue in our modern
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age that at the highest levels they hide behind the
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spiritual beliefs. There's no spiritual basis behind it. It's all
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it's just so that they can gain power and control.
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They are cynical, empirical, and have no spiritual belief whatsoever.
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They use spirituality as a bamboozlement to hide behind. In
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other words, it's a way. A good example would be
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I wrote an article which the public anyone can look at.
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It's for free, it's online called the Freemason Invention of
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the Nazi Party, and I show that, you know, the
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Nazi Party comes from the Theosophical Society, which is just
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a you know, it's a hodgepodge and a mumbo jumbo
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00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:59.639
of spirituality. Helen Blovotsky kind of created it as an
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anim of Freemasonry, right, and it's promoted and funded by Freemasons.
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But it's a completely incoherent kind of spiritual system. I mean,
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it's just that. Frankly, it's ludicrous. But it becomes over time.
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I mean this is actually you're talking about seventy years,
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so you can see how incremental and patient they are.
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It becomes the kind of German race paganism that was
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the basis, the kind of philosophical basis for the Nazi Party. Right,
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So in other words, you had a transition from Christianity
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to this German paganism, right, which basically then ends up
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as the Nazi Party. Now, the spirituality that's being presented
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is completely cynical. They are just using it. It's absolutely
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clear when you look at it over time and all
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the different individuals, none of these people believe any of
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this nonsense. They're just creating a little bit of kind
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of intellectual space so that when they go to actually
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onset the Nazi Party, it has a what seems to
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be a coherent explanation for itself. In other words, that
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you have this German paganism which has been presented over
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time by Masonic individuals inserted into the German culture. So
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it just seems like there is an explanation for you know,
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Hitler's behavior that is grounded in a spiritual sense. Right,
541
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But the fact is it's just absolutely cynical. I would
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say freemasonry is again, it's just completely cynical, and even
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though you don't really know because of the levels. But
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I wrote an article called The Freemason in the Rye,
545
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which is a deconstruction of the Catcher in the Rye
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by Salinger, and I show that the Freemason the Ketcher
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in the Rye is just a culted homage to Freemasonry
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in which the different levels of Freemasonry are represented. So
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holding Cawfield is actually going through the steps to become
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a master Mason, right, That's that's what the Catcher in
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the Rye is actually about. And notice even the title
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the Catcher in the Rye, what that is what is
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the ketch and the rye. It is the individual in
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a wheat field with a scythe cutting wheat down. So
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it's the symbol of the apocalypse is being represented right
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in the title, I'll be a little occulted. But the
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ketcher in the rye is the it's the individual who
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you know, the Apocalypse uses as his representation. He has
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the scythe and he's cutting through things well in the
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In the in the story, Holden Cawfield finally becomes a
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master mason. Two brothers bring him to where the ancient
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Egyptian symbols are. He gets to go in by himself
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into what is being symbolically depicted as the Holy of Holies,
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which is something in Freemason lodges that they use for
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when they are bringing people up to the high levels.
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And what he sees on the wall isn't some spirituality.
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It isn't some you know, like you know, deeper understanding
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human nature. It's fu. This is what he comes in
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and he sees the wall and they're written on the
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wall is fu. Right. Well, what that is showing is
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that it's a way of showing that this high level
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is not spirituality. It's fu. They're saying, you know, the
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hell with you, you're you know, we we have the bamboozlement,
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we have the pseudo spirituality, but at the end of it,
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there's fu. There's genocide. So this is this is really
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what is the secret spiritual kind of understanding that that
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the oligarch class has is that this all leads to
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the genocide of humanity. They are they are moving toward
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a world in which they are the only individuals that
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they would be, you know, have the planet to themselves,
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whoever they are and whatever they are. They are definitely
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trying to depopulate. They give now they have the you know,
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the all of the global weather change things, you know
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that they're trying to get people to accept that, well,
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we have to depopulate. It's there's just too many of us,
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you know, it has it. They don't talk about the
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destructive kind of chemical insertions into the world that are artificial.
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They just talked about it's a number of people. This
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is the problem, right, So we've got to depopulate. Don't
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complain about not having children, and don't complain about having
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high levels of people dying, you know, in their forties.
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This is all good this is this is you know,
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great for the planet. So you know, we're just being
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What has happened is pretty obvious, in my opinion, is
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you've had a secret society that I called Udeo Masonic
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group has taken over the political class of the world.
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They have through the centuries slithered in. They've replaced a
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kind of political and you know, monistic leaders, you know
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that that were from the actual ethnicity that they represented,
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and they've replaced them with these lifetime actors. So I
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would maintain if you if you did genetic testing of
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like the last five US presidents, including Obama, you'd find
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that their ethnicity and their families are related, and that
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is the group that is is moving toward worldwide genocide.
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And when you get to that perspective, then the world
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makes a lot more sense. Then you understand the kind
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00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:17.079
of weird misuse of science to produce this climate change
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horror that they've got, you know, giving us you certainly
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understand things like Gaza and the Ukrainian War, then you
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can even understand you know, nine to one one all
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00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:32.679
it all will make sense from that perspective. So hopefully
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you know, there are enough sort of clear minded, independent
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researchers like yourself. You know, last time I was on,
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I praised you and I said, hey, you know, you
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really deserve support. I want to reiterate that, you know
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you people should support you because you have to have
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the courage and clear mindedness to do what you do,
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and there's just not enough of them. It is growing, though.
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I think I mentioned last time that we're basically winning.
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It may seem impossible because we are not gaining any
621
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.760
political traction, right we don't. We don't, we're not really
622
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organizing politically yet. But the first step is the information revolution,
623
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:18.800
and there we're clearly winning because you see the complete
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00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:22.079
collapse of participation in the old media, right I mean,
625
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I mean I do podcasts that have larger subscription than
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stuff like I mean seriously, so well, you know, how
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how is that possible? So there is there is this,
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you know, kind of transition. And the other thing is
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if someone comes to the level of understanding where they
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could have a discussion with you, where they would understand
631
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.159
what you're saying. I mean, I've listened to a lot
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of your podcasts, and if if someone can understand what
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00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:57.599
you're saying, that individual would never go back to where
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they would take CNN or Fox News seriously, it just
635
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:03.599
doesn't happen because even mind doesn't operate that way. So
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everyone who converts intellectually to the point where they can
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00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.440
understand you and can agree with your logic, with your reason,
638
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.719
it makes sense, your understanding of the world is more coherent.
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They don't go back. Because the point is propaganda can
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only work against the human mind if that individual who
641
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.440
is the victim gives the person giving out the propaganda trust.
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00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:35.159
You have to be in a state of trust where
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you really think that Wolf Blitzer, you know, our Sean
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00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.800
Hannity are actually they're representing some honest attempt at giving
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00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.440
real stuff, right, you have to give them trust. But
646
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if you don't have that, if you don't have the
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00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:55.599
trust to the oligarch's media outlets, then it doesn't work.
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The propaganda doesn't work because all it takes is that
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much skepticism where you go. You know, I hear what
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00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:02.960
you're saying. I'm just going to think about it and
651
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.039
maybe look into some facts on my own before I
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00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.519
actually accept your position on nine to one one or
653
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in October seventh, or any of the bamboozling elements. You know,
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that they give. So so if they get to the
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point where they can understand you, then they are lost forever,
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really to they because all you need is that much
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00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:29.519
skepticism and to not give them trust where the propaganda
658
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:34.320
just becomes ridiculous. So this is something they're well aware
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of obviously. And when people get to certain levels I
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think of, you know, popularity, they try to batter them down.
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And then of course they have they have they've developed
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expressions which are intended to end thought. You know, they're
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trying to keep people from moving to understanding you, for example,
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So they've developed I mean anti Semitic, holocaust denier, truth
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or white supremacist. It's one of my favorites. It's like that.
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00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:12.679
I mean, I tell you, I've never met a white supremacist.
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00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:16.239
I mean, have you ever actually, like, you know, I
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have a white supremacist. You know, I have group that
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we get we meet, and I mean I've never even
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met one. I don't know anyone, and yet they use
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this expression, like the FBI said, the white Supremacis are
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the greatest threat to America. I mean had to roll
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on the ground with laughter. I mean really, I mean,
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to god, if I knew one, maybe I could like
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to see, Okay, this is maybe a kind of its
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far offence, but at least that's not insane. No, it's
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it's insane. There just aren't any white supremacists what they're
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And now, you know, you have this revolt revolution in
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the EU where where they're trying to restrict politicians or
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get rid of politicians who have this open border policy
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because they can say that the immigrants from North Africa
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and the Mid East that's going on is not good
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for their cultures, right, they can everyone can see it now.
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It's there's more violence, u there's the economics are bad.
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It's just really been and of course it's it's a
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you know, the end of like long standing European cultures
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like the Danish, the Sweezmen. They're just getting rid of
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them with this immigration policy. So they now have like
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in the last election, they were they've posed, you know,
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the politicians who have this as their policy, and what
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are they called. They they're saying this is a far right.
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They use the expression far right, you know, they use
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that expression rather than well, these are the traditionalists. These
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are the people who are like, you know, promoting the
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traditional European culture. But instead they have become far right
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because the way they're you know, I'm just giving us
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as an example of how they're using language for the
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purpose of shutting down thinking so far right conspiracy, theorist
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truth or anti Semitic Holocaust, and they're all just designed
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these expressions have intimidation in back of them that people
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know that if they if they are, if they're charged
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with those things, that the first of all, they can't
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defend themselves, right, the charge is the is the conviction.
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You know, they're given this negative stance. You know, they're
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put into public eyes and they're negative. You know, But
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this isn't that they have any kind of clear minded
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rationale that people should be aware of. They're just bad.
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It's just they're bad in the heart and in the mind,
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So stop thinking about them. But the fact is is
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that if you look at, for example, like the Holocaust statistics,
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every year, let fewer and fewer people believe the narrative
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every year. Why it's because even though there's not a
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lot of information out there, there's enough that it's kind
714
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of swirling around. People are going, wait a second, you know,
715
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where are the where are the the the gas chambers?
716
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You know where where are the crematory, where are the bodies?
717
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You know what happen here? You know there's no evidence,
718
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you know, So this is it's all moving toward ending
719
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the trust that we have been giving the oligarch class
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for a thousand years. And what is your role and
721
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your achievement is just to keep that process moving forward.
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Because when the information revolution hits, it doesn't have to
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get fifty percent. I would say, if it gets to
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like fifteen percent, of the public could have a conversation
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with you where you you could you know, you'd have
726
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your your your expressions and your reasoning would be comprehensible,
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and they would say, you don't make you're making a
728
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lot of sense. You could have that socratic engagement. I
729
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.559
think it's over. I just don't think the political structure
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that they have set up can actually function if you
731
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have even fifteen percent of the public going you know,
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I don't buy it. I don't buy you at all.
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I just think you're lying, because remember it's the it's
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the word that they have like there weres holocaust and
735
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I are white supremacist. Well, our expression is liar, just lying.
736
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This is a this is a lie given for the
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purpose of propaganda, and so you know, we were moving
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them toward moving we're moving the public toward where they
739
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can go. You know, I think you're lying. I want
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you to justify what you're what you're claiming.
741
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Let's let's this is why I'm encouraged with what I'm
742
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seeing with different communities and groups of people that are
743
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becoming more aware and questioning the narrative more. I want
744
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to go back to the psychological warfare aspect and what
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we were talking about, the non spiritual basis behind all
746
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of these agendas. There seems to be this mind control
747
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aspect to where if they add in biblical prophecy and
748
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this occult symbol to try and get people to believe
749
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that there is this higher power or this demonic force
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that they are working with that is behind their agendas,
751
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it causes more fear, It causes more hesitation for the
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public to be working against some of these quote unquote
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dark forces. But from what you're saying, it's just all
754
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a big psychological operation to pump that fear in.
755
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Yeah, there is a picture it's online of Maria Bramovich
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and the current zion of the Rothschild family. I forget
757
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his first name. But they're sitting there and in back
758
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of them there's a famous picture of Satan and it's
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called Satan gathers as Legions, I believe is the name
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of the painting. Satan is nude. Of course. Well, you
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know both of those individuals, well, certainly Bramovich, you know,
762
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engage in kind of hocus pocus spirituality right that you
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can see as Satanic, you know. She she is the
764
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one who was talking about spirit cooking, which is related
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of course to Crowley the Cake of Light. You know,
766
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he talked about these kinds of rituals. She claims, well,
767
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it's you know, it's sort of like Crowley. But I'm
768
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not really trying to be a Satanist. I'm just you know,
769
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copying him, you know. But of course this is ridiculous.
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And in fact, in the email exchanges that talked about
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Hillary Clinton's you know associates, you know, going to spirit
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cooking events, one of them actually talks about the Lima,
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which is with this just lists the veil completely. Now
774
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you can see that. Yeah, of course these people are
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operating in the context of Crowley. Crowley. You know, it's
776
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it's Aleister Crowley because he developed the lima religion, and
777
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the expression and the email was I want you to
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do me a thelem of favor. Well, you wouldn't be
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able to use the term in that way asking for
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a favor if you weren't really familiar with the Chroleian
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hocus pocus spirituality. And of course you could never use
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the expression in that way if you didn't have the
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confidence that the person you were giving it the question
784
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to also had the same understanding of Thelema. Right, and
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these are associates of Hillary Clinton who are having this exchange. Well, okay,
786
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so they're Satanic, right, I mean this pretty straightforward. They're
787
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they're just they're Satanic. Well, do they believe in Satan
788
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is like a fallen God with powers that they can tap? Well,
789
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of course not. It's ridiculous. These are the most empirical,
790
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They're very scientific in their you know, kind of application
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of force. Right, but they know what the what they're
792
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really doing is they're trying to just use spirituality as
793
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a way to confuse people. And the example I gave
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about the Nazi Party coming from this freemason insertion of
795
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spiritual paganism that is they claimed was ancient you know,
796
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the Aryan people, right, well, Aryan wasn't a self identifier
797
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for the German people until they brought it to them
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in nineteenth century. That it was just done to create
799
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enough hocus pocus that eventually you would give trust to
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someone who would want you to do something that was
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self destructive. So when they used like nine to one one,
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and I gave you the explanation of the date, right,
803
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they're mimicking the people who created Christianity. You see what
804
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you really have here is a kind of eye for
805
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an eye Christianity. If you read my book Caesar's Messiah,
806
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you can see that the Roman oligarchs developed it as
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a way to control the Messianic Jews that were rebelling.
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So they developed Christianity primarily for vanity. That's a whole
809
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long piece of analysis, but I won't go into now.
810
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But they also wanted to control the Jews, and so
811
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they wanted to shoot switch the kind of Messianism that
812
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was rebelling against Rome, that was producing messiahs that were
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rebel leaders, which of course is very logical because remember
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they're claiming to be from the lineage of David Well.
815
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David wasn't to turn the other cheek, give to Caesar.
816
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What is Caesar? You know, blessed are the peacemakers guy, Right,
817
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he was a warrior, xenophobic fundamentalists who cut the head
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off of Goliath, right, But he had the power of God,
819
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so he's again it's you're dealing with kind of spiritual craziness.
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But this would have been the the messiahs in the
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first century. So when you create Jesus, who is pro
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roman and pacifistic, you're just in the mind control operation. Well,
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one of the things that they did was create this
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artificial relationship between the death of Jesus and the end
825
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of the war. They're trying to show that the New
826
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Covenant of the New Testament. I mean, the book is
827
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called the New Testament, but that's a mistranslation. It actually
828
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the better translation is Covenant, the New Covenant, the one
829
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that Jesus Christ is giving to us. This covenant has
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a forty years cycle from the end of the Passover
831
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Lamb to the kind of ownership of the Promised Land.
832
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And this is a mirror of the First Covenant. I mean,
833
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think about the First Covenant. You know, you have the
834
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the slaughter of the Passover Lamb, and then forty years
835
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later you know that they wander in the wilderness for years,
836
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but then the Jews can go into the Promised Land
837
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and become basically the Israelites because now they have Israel.
838
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It's forty year cycle. So you have the death of
839
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the Passover Lamb and thirty three or excuse me, and
840
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the death of the Passover Lamb, and then you have
841
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forty years later after the wandering, the ownership of the
842
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Promised Land. Well, when they created the New Covenant. This
843
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goes to your point, and it's an example of kind
844
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of what you're asking for, is that when they create
845
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the New Covenant, they want to bamboozle the people. Right,
846
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So what they did was is they said that Jesus
847
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Christ died on Passover thirty three, and that's forty years
848
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to the day from the fall of Masada, forty years
849
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to the day. So they mirror the forty year cycle, right,
850
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:53.639
they have a mirror. So it's now they're giving the
851
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people who are they're trying to seduce into the New Covenant.
852
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:01.880
They're giving them this psychological, spiritual kind of mind control
853
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event where look, we have we know that God's hand
854
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is given to the New Covenant because we have the
855
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same cycle, just like the first Covenant, the Covenant that
856
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we're replacing, the old Covenant being replaced with the new Covenant.
857
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So we have this four year cycle from the destruction
858
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of the temple to excuse me from the fault, from
859
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the execution of the Passover Lamb to the ownership of
860
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Israel by the Romans. The new Covenant is now installed
861
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and the Promised Land is now given to the Romans
862
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:36.480
who take complete ownership of it at that point, okay,
863
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so it's hocus pocus. Well then you look at nine
864
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to one one, and it's occurring at you know, in
865
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the date that the Temple is destroyed and the Solomon
866
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building is collapses symmetrically. You know, well you can you
867
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can actually take the position that if these things were real,
868
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:03.039
that they are metaphysically, you know, kind of connected into
869
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:07.639
the divine because the events are are not they have
870
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to be spiritually connected. Just like the Romans claim that
871
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the temple fell in the same day or was raised
872
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:20.079
in the same day as the first Temple was destroyed. Right,
873
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:22.719
So Rome said, look, it was nine one one, that's
874
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when the temple was raised, you know, same date, showing
875
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this divine connection. Well, they're using that, they're extending off
876
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of that bamboosom with their own bamboozlemen. Right, they're saying,
877
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:40.159
guess what the new world Order is being on? Set
878
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on nine one one, you see, and it's your Solomon
879
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building that was destroyed, not ours, basically, you know. So
880
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they use these well in this case it's foreshadowing, but
881
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they use the kind of kind of religious symbolism as
882
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a veneer for their their their activity. But you would
883
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be naive to believe that you're actually looking at anything real.
884
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They're not there. These dates are being done for the
885
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purpose of revenge and humiliation, and the the the the events,
886
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the way that they're manifesting it through very precise real
887
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world behavior. Right. They brought down the towers with controlled demolition.
888
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It wasn't God or spiritual activity. Right. So whenever you
889
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see like you know, the kind of particularly when you
890
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when you look at Crowley, when you look at this
891
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sort of satanic activity, and people say, well, look this
892
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is this is Crowley, these people are they're Satanists. This
893
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is a misunderstanding. They have to look deeper into Crowley.
894
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:59.440
He's a British agent. He's a member of the Secret Police.
895
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:03.320
He he is directly connected to the same lodge that
896
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:09.360
produces Blovotsky. The same person, John Yaker, who gave a
897
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Bovotsky her funding and her Masonic passport so she could
898
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:16.559
go around and set up the Theosophical Society, is the
899
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:20.719
one who did the same thing with Crowley. Crowley's kind
900
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:25.840
of bizarre Satanism, you have to stand back from it
901
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:27.800
for a second and then think, well, why are they
902
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:32.639
doing this. It's because the target is Christian culture, right,
903
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:37.400
So Crowley it is not the connection to the devil
904
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:43.599
that that Crowley is is really manifesting. It's liberated sexuality,
905
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:47.880
right and and and ay end in the belief of
906
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:52.239
the sort of logos of Christianity that holds together you know,
907
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:56.760
European culture. Crowley is just an attack upon Christian culture
908
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:02.320
to you know, produce a relove Satanism, all of which
909
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:06.239
then ends up with sex, drugs and rock and roll
910
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:10.039
being given, you know, in to the boomers in the
911
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:14.800
sixties in a project that obviously comes out or very
912
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:18.679
often connected into the CIA. Right, So it's all just
913
01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:24.199
one system of bamboosoment and mind control and propaganda and
914
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:29.639
sexuality then is being you know unleashed so that the
915
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:33.559
family cannot exist. Because what's really being destroyed here is
916
01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:38.679
the family ethnicity and the power that those organizations represent.
917
01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:43.480
What they're doing is creating isolated individuals. Right, your ethnicity
918
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:48.199
doesn't exist anymore, Families not real, and you have you're
919
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:53.760
given this worker's paradise of unlimited sexual activity, but you're
920
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:58.239
politically completely impotent if you look at like TikTok and
921
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:02.400
the kind of sexuality that's being represented there. Of just
922
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:06.360
there's no hook up I mean, there's no family that
923
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:08.559
you can create out of these people, right, they are
924
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:15.000
into hookup sex. And from that position, no families will
925
01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:17.639
be produced there there there won't even be a I
926
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:20.760
don't think another generation, right because because none of the
927
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.199
very few can have children, how can they have children?
928
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You know, from from that position of the pornographic world,
929
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the hookup sex, you know, so family family production to
930
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:36.320
be going down there, it's all headed toward genocide. You
931
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just have to mean, as I've maintained, is you just
932
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:43.559
look at the goal here is depopulation, and there's different
933
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:46.480
ways and and one of the tricks that they're using
934
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:51.280
is this satanic spirituality that they're pretending to believe in
935
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:54.880
and they're trying to seduce people into its manifestations of
936
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.599
you know, get into sex and drugs. But it's all
937
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:02.800
just headed toward when simple place, and that's just depopulation. Now.
938
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Earlier, you were saying that you have the feeling that
939
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:09.800
as a whole we are headed in the right direction.
940
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:12.599
There's a lot of failure on the part of the
941
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:17.000
ruling class. I see the same thing, but I also
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see that the evidence of the control system crumbling is
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being put out there more example, some of the celebrities
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that are being outed for their degeneracy and legal activities
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and people in power above and beyond that. Do you
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think that this is a reaction to the failures of
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this new world order system.
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Yeah, that's a really good question answers. I don't really know.
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I think there'd be in different cases, would have different explanations.
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You know, you'd have to almost go by its phenomena
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by phenomena, celebrity by celebrity. I think some are legitimate
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and I think others are not. I think the the
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independent media, I mean, I don't think Alex Jones is
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a legitimate individual. I agree, you know, I mean, he
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has the foreshadowing of nine one one very specific. I mean,
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that's ridiculous, you know you're doing so. So what they
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do is they create, you know, they they try to
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lead the opposition. They try to take control of the
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opposition by their old technique of gaining the political control
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01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:33.960
over So they try to get the most visible leaders
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of the you know, independent media as people that they
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have control over. So this is is what you end
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01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.960
up with is cul de sacs. These individuals are created
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to push you into cul de sacs, which are basically
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places where you just you know, you come to. It's
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like with the COVID, you know of mandates. They they
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01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:58.440
will take you to a place where they go, well,
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what we're dealing with is the military industrial complex playing
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01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:06.639
four D chess, and you'll never really get to know
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really what's going on. It's a cull to sat Now.
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Actually you need to think a little bit further here
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and try to come up with the actual individuals who are
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producing this right, and you can if you keep going,
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01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:22.000
keep thinking. Don't stop just because you have military industrial
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complex as a concept. That doesn't give you any explanation
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at all. That's just another question that you have to
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just keep you know, trying to answer. So as far
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as you know, like are we winning well as as
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there is the you know kind of the their system
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of control crumbling, well I don't think that's true at all.
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I think they're actually it's becoming stronger because they're developing technology.
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You know, you're getting this nudge technology and Facebook and
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Google and things. But what's happening is an information revolution.
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01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:56.719
I mean, this is this is the thing is that
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we are not in a political mode yet. We're not
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in a mode whereby we would start to see you know,
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activity that could crumble you know, their structure and power.
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But what's happening is the truth is just getting out.
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01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:17.400
And then at a certain point you'll start to see
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political activity. When you get the percentages of people who are,
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as I said, could have conversation with you, When you
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get to that point, say about fifteen percent, then you'll
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start to see that the old political system won't really
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01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:34.199
work very well. It's almost there. I mean, fifty percent
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01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:37.760
of Americans are registered as independence now and this has
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01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:40.320
never happened before. And this is a direct result of
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you know, the kind of power of the independent media,
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01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:47.039
right It's that has been the force that has brought
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01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:50.880
all the cynicism hasn't been the mainstream media. New York
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01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:54.159
Times isn't doing any of this, CNN or Fox News
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01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:56.639
isn't doing any of this. It's people like you that
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01:06:56.679 --> 01:07:01.039
are doing this. And so the information revolution is moving
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along very well. More and more people are becoming or
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01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:09.159
losing their trust, so the propaganda cannot work on them,
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01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:14.079
and therefore they'll start looking at phenomena like October seventh
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01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:18.760
and the invasion of Israel bay Hamas, or the explanation
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01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:20.920
that's being given for the Ukrainian War, and they'll go,
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01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:25.519
you know, this is not it's not realistic. It's just
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01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:26.639
this is absurd.
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01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:27.599
So the.
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Ruling class will become more and more exposed as malevolent,
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and then when you get up to say fifteen percent,
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you'll start to see zelots demanding changes in the political system,
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01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:44.480
changes in the way that you know, political people are selected,
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01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:48.320
you know, to run for office. Their system won't work anymore.
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01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:50.760
Now at that point then the world become very dangerous
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01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:54.159
because they're not going to just go away. But I
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01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:56.639
think that the power of human mind is such that
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once the process starts, I just don't see how they
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01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.159
can turn it off. And I think when they when
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01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:05.679
they attack you or me or any other they they're
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01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:10.559
almost at diminishing returns where when they attack people or
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01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:13.239
tried to when they are when they use their expressions
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01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:18.000
like Holocaust deny or truth or white supremacy, they it's
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01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:24.239
so incoherent and well just obviously faults that they are
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01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:28.000
actually making more people skeptical. Then you see, then they're
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01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:31.520
pushing back into the darkness. I don't think their techniques
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01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:34.520
to push people back into the darkness work at all.
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01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:37.640
I think they're just ridiculous, and I think people can
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01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:39.640
see right through them. And I think I'm just I'm
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01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:42.640
not aware of anybody who's come out into the sunlight
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01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:45.239
and go, gee, I can I can listen to you,
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01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:47.720
and I can understand you, and then go, you know what,
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01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:52.359
I'd realize I was wrong. I realize that Wolf Blitzer
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01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:56.279
and Sean Hannity are actually it just doesn't happen. Brother.
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01:08:56.880 --> 01:08:58.680
So the thing that's what I'm saying when I say
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01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:02.920
we're winning, people kind of miss understand my meaning. It's
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01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.760
it's just that their their techniques to push us back
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01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:10.319
into the darkness are literally ridiculous. They they are not
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01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:13.640
working at all, So you get people walk out into
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01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:16.760
the sunlight, they don't go back. So we'll just see
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01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:19.640
because more and more people are getting are getting, you know,
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01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:23.159
kind of skeptical about the whole narrative of what they're
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01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:23.760
trying to sell.
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01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:28.199
Revolution's got to start somewhere. Joe, thank you so much.
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This was fantastic essential information. Before we close out, remind
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01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:35.119
everyone where they can find out more about you get
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your books and everybody else one of my books.
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Just go to caesarsmside dot com. If I have a
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01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:45.000
whole bunch of articles on on the Beatles, on Freemasonry,
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they're catching the rya analysis, the article on the Tempest,
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they're all at Postflaviana dot org. I mean, that's kind
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01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:54.520
of hard to understand, but it's the Flavians are my
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01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:59.199
understanding and who created Christianity. So post Flaviana dot org
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01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:02.520
or dot and you'll see all the articles. They're free
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01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:05.079
and just check them out and if you have questions
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01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:08.279
email me at Joe Attwill at gmail dot com. I
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01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:10.159
try to get to all the emails. That takes me
1059
01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:11.600
a while, but I try to get through them so
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01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:16.399
you know, and and support, you know, for forbidden knowledge. News.
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01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:18.640
I mean, this is really where they I mean, this
1062
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:20.159
is the future. Brother, it's it's you.
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So good luck you sir, and thank you for coming on.
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I can't wait to do this again. There's much more,
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01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:29.439
much more information. Thank you, and we'll see you again.
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We'll talk again tomorrow. Everyone all right, that was a
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01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:40.119
great episode. Love his information. Although I don't agree with everything.
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One of the biggest things I do not agree with
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01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:47.800
that at its foundation, it is not a spiritual war.
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01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:52.960
I do believe that this is all about the unseen
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01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:56.399
forces that we deal with on a daily basis and
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01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:01.119
always have since the beginning of time. But again, he
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01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:05.439
does have great information. It is a great way to
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01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:10.119
understand the material aspects of this war that we are
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01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:15.279
facing against humanity. So thank you again, mister Atwell. I
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just had to add today I want to welcome back
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01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:20.239
to the show Robert Khalil. He is host of The
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01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:25.600
Typical Skeptic podcast, which is a non biased exploration of ufology,
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01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:30.199
secret space, hidden history, conspiracy, and the nature of reality.
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01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:32.039
Robert, welcome back.
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01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:35.800
How you doing, Hey, Chris, Good to see you man.
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01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:38.520
I'm so happy to be back. I love these shows
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01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:41.199
we do together and I'm really excited to get into
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01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:43.359
you know whatever we're going to get talk about.
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01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:48.640
Oh yes, man, always a fun discussion. Today is another
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01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:55.159
delicious conspiracy buffet. And I guarantee, in a world of rancid,
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01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:59.840
dirty conspiracies, that this buffet is prepared with many years
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01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:05.079
of research, experience, common sense, and without being tainted by
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01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:09.640
the glamorous world of doom and gloom, sensationalism and your
1090
01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:13.640
everyday bullshit. At least we will tell you straight up
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01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:17.359
we know nothing here. We're not here to provide the answers,
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01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:21.119
but maybe serve up some information that might lead you
1093
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:27.039
to question everything. Now, before we dig into this delicious information, Robert,
1094
01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:29.880
remind the audience all about yourself and your show.
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01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:35.880
I'm the typical skeptic podcast everywhere, mostly on YouTube and Rumble,
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01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:38.399
and then i have a small presence on Rockman too,
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01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:41.000
but mostly I post on YouTube and Rumble, and then
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01:12:41.079 --> 01:12:43.359
I'm trying to build up my audio presence as well,
1099
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:46.399
because for some reason audio is a lot better, you know,
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01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:49.560
monetization wise, it seems like. So I'm really trying to
1101
01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:53.079
hammer the audio that's on Spreaker, like I know you're
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01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:55.199
on Spreaker as well. And then I'm also on like
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01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:58.720
Spotify and Apple Podcasts and all that, so I'm really
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01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:00.960
trying to drive home the audio for some reason.
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01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:04.239
Yeah, that's what That's exactly what we ended up doing,
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01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:07.640
especially when we saw the censorship coming on YouTube.
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01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:09.359
We're not on YouTube anymore.
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01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:12.199
I made a new channel that has a small following
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01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:14.359
that we put clips on, but we keep.
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01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:15.520
It as safe as possible.
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01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:17.600
But we saw the writing on the wall, so we
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01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:21.600
started just pushing everybody to the audio podcast. So far,
1113
01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:26.079
it hasn't been messed with, I believe to a scale
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01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:29.720
that the video platforms have been, and I'm hopeful that
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01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:30.319
it won't be.
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01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:31.199
But we'll see.
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01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:35.199
But how is YouTube treating you? Are still monetized on
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01:13:35.239 --> 01:13:38.439
the everything? Still are you getting dinged now?
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01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:41.399
I mean it's it's I've always call it, I'm walking
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01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:44.560
the YouTube type rope. Like I post some shows that
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01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:47.039
I feel if if I get a feeling from them,
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01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:49.439
I'll take them down right away and I'll post them
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01:13:49.439 --> 01:13:51.520
on Rumble. It's kind of weird, like because I'm not
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01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:54.920
even sure what exactly they're looking for. All I know
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01:13:55.079 --> 01:13:58.399
that's something goes like real deep into conspiracy or if
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01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:01.600
it's real like bad or something like not bad like
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01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:03.920
we would think. But I'm trying to think of in
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01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:06.319
the eyes of how YouTube would think. Then I'll I'll
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01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:10.119
automatically take it down and then I'll post it on rumble.
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01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:12.279
You know, I'm trying to. Like I said, it's like
1131
01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:15.000
walking a tightrope and and you don't you can't see
1132
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:16.520
what's ahead of you. You just kind of have to
1133
01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:19.039
guess at what they're gonna try to strike and what
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01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:21.640
they're not, you know. And so far it's been good,
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01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:23.279
but I mean, you never know. I could be taken
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01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:25.960
down tomorrow, you know. I know, I know what I'm
1137
01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:28.079
dealing with. You know what I mean, it's a it's
1138
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:31.359
a monster, you know, it's I don't know.
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01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:37.399
What's happened is it seems like they've started to allow
1140
01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:42.760
certain types of conspiratorial content more on YouTube, and they're
1141
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:48.800
still censoring the quote unquote medical misinformation and things about COVID.
1142
01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:53.439
Probably political things are getting censored heavily right now, but
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01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:58.840
there are certain woo woo and conspiratorial topics that are
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01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:02.359
being allowed more than others. I believe because it's the
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01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:07.199
landscape now, everything has been flooded with so much bogus
1146
01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:13.000
information and people presenting the quote unquote conspiracies that are
1147
01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:18.680
coming out new every day have become very troublesome, to
1148
01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:21.439
say the least. We're in a land of doom and gloom,
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01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:26.000
scrolling to the max. This is what attracts attention, This
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01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:30.000
is what gets people popular. This is where people are
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01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:33.640
going to find a lot of the information is the
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01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:39.479
darkest and doomiest content creators putting out information that they
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01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:43.479
went and watched someone else's video and repeated. And this
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01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:47.439
is an unfortunate trend that we're seeing right now in
1155
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:50.680
this landscape. A lot there's people that aren't doing their
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01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:55.119
due diligence and their research. They're just bouncing off of
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01:15:55.239 --> 01:15:59.119
other people's ideas and research, and it's becoming this horrible
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01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:01.119
game of telefne.
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01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:02.039
In a very short amount of time.
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All they need is one or two voices that have
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a lot of popularity, that carry a lot of weight,
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01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:12.119
and then the rest of the quote unquote community does
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01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:12.600
the rest.
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01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:14.760
It spreads like wildfire.
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01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:18.319
And before you know it, there's so much badation being
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01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:22.840
spread in this community that it just becomes irrelevant and
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01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:25.880
the battles won on their side. So we're in a
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01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.960
very dangerous time when it comes to information and how
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01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:33.800
it's being presented. And it's unfortunate that people are focusing
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01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:36.840
on such of the dark side of things right now
1171
01:16:37.520 --> 01:16:41.960
and still being drug into material aspects that will never
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01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:44.319
matter in their lives, like politics.
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01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:45.840
How do you feel about everything?
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Unfailing? No, I know, I feel the same way, and
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I feel like what I'm seeing in like the like
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if you want to call it like the UFO or
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star Seed or you know whatever, spirituality. Uh, you know,
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I guess that message it's spiracuy computer. But you know,
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like though, like the star c UFO commit it seems
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like they pick out certain people that they want to
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01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:08.439
have a voice, and they let those people get to
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01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:10.960
like one hundred thousand subscribers, and then next thing, you know,
1183
01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:13.479
these people are saying they're their channel and stuff from
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01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:16.920
the Galactic Federation, and it's like and then people like
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01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:19.560
like glean onto that stuff and they believe it. And
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01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:23.840
meanwhile there's like channels like Journey to Truth just got
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01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:26.600
taken down off YouTube. They no longer have a YouTube.
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01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:29.039
I can tell her he's like a channeler. He got
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01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:32.279
taken down off YouTube. You know. So it's like it's
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it's really it's really it's you know, it's really strange,
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01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:39.000
like it's, uh, I don't know, I don't know how
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01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:40.760
to battle it or what, you know. I try to
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01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:43.880
put out people who have good information, like people like
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01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:48.039
Laura Eisenhower, Tony rod Riggs, like you know, but you know,
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01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:51.199
I also get people sometimes who are like they're kind
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01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:54.039
of like, you know, it's like iffy, but it's like
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01:17:54.119 --> 01:17:56.119
it's hard to tell because I don't vet everybody that
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01:17:56.119 --> 01:17:58.159
I put on my show, but I try to do
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my due diligence, you know what I mean. But but
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one person I noticed that this real good as Rider.
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I like writers information. He seems to do a lot
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01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:06.239
of good research.
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01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:07.359
Oh yeah, Writer's great.
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01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:10.560
He's very skeptical when it comes to a lot of
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01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:14.319
this information, which keeps him very grounded. I don't agree
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with a lot of the directions that he is headed recently,
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but I do think that he is overall bringing a
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01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:23.680
lot of information to light that needs to be brought
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01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:26.159
to light. And when it comes to people in this
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01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:31.600
secret space community. I tend to shy away from this
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01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:36.439
community just because of the amount of people who have
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infiltrated it for their own monetary gain, for their own fame,
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01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:48.880
to get notoriety, whatever reasons. And I don't normally call
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01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:53.119
out any anyone in these realms, but I just saw
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01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:56.920
a post on Facebook the other day that was so
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01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:01.840
blatantly faked and obvious, and it was from one of
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01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:04.760
these individuals, and I'll say it, it was have you had
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01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:06.920
Ishmael Perez on your show?
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01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:10.720
I have a story about that. I did have him
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01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:12.680
on back in the day, but that was when I
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01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:16.319
was interviewing like the Alena Dunand people. Again, they got mad,
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01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:19.079
and I I so like that was a point. I
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01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:21.520
just I stopped interviewing both of them. I stopped having
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01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:23.880
Alana Danana on my show. I stopped having Ishmael Press
1225
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:26.359
on my show because like they were fighting each other,
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01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:28.319
and I was like, neither of you can prove what
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01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:31.199
you're saying. And then what I was thinking was I
1228
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:33.720
was thinking like that there's them, and then there's like
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the David Wilcox and the forty Goods too. Yes, I
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01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:40.039
mean they didn't do anybody favors for like the SS.
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01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:43.760
Well, there's some there's some very interesting information coming out
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on that side as well about the Wilcox crew and
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01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:49.560
some of the things that he was involved with. But
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01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:53.960
with Ishmael, I never trusted the guy. I always thought
1235
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that the information he was regurgitating was always has always
1236
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:02.800
been out there. He just adds little details to try
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01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:05.079
and personalize it. But what I saw the other day
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01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:07.800
pushed me over the edge. He put a post on Facebook.
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I forgot what country he's in, but it's a picture
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01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:14.399
out of a obviously out of a hotel window, and
1241
01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:17.920
he's framing it as UFOs in the skies and they're
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01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:21.560
very uniform aligned. And then they have this other picture
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01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.479
with this huge, massive, I mean, the whole city would
1244
01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:26.239
have been freaking out if it was real, like it
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01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:27.960
would have been all over the news. It was this
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01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:33.920
massive like saucer thing out of the window. But to
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01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:35.840
the trained eye, when you really look at it, you
1248
01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:38.920
can see that it's just reflections of the inner lights
1249
01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:43.319
of whatever hotel he's at that he is saying is UFOs,
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01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:45.680
and it's so obvious. The more you look at it,
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01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:49.279
it becomes more and more obvious. He is trying to
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01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:52.840
tell us that the reflection of the lights behind him
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01:20:52.920 --> 01:20:56.520
in a hotel that he is at is an invasion
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01:20:56.640 --> 01:21:00.279
of UFOs coming in and he had I don't know
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01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:04.399
how many thousands of likes and comments like oh my god,
1256
01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:07.640
thank you for this information. This is amazing. They're coming
1257
01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:12.960
so many people buying into it. They had a few
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01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:15.319
like me that are like, hey, guys, look, this is
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01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:19.159
a reflection of the lights in It's obvious. You can
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01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:21.279
see where the light is shining off of the window.
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01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.560
You can see that it's obviously a light fixture and
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01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:29.199
not a UFO. And these people are thousands and thousands
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01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:31.840
of people are buying into it, and I just had
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01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:36.680
to comment. I'm like, please, just realize this is a fraud.
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01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:39.800
This guy is trying to feed you fake information. All
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you have to do is study the photo for five
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01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:48.479
minutes objectively and you will see that it is indeed
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01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:53.479
just a reflection. So this and this guy's still going
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01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:58.680
on podcasts and doing our long YouTube videos about the
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01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:01.960
Galactic Federation and Secret Space and all these things he's
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01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:05.680
involved in. Well, if he will intentionally go to the
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01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:10.279
links of faking UFOs in the sky by framing it
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01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:13.640
that these lights behind me are freaking UFOs, If he
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01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:16.520
goes to that links to do that, how much else
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01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:20.880
is this guy lying about and just feeding a horrible
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01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:24.159
bad information out because it gets him popularity, it gets
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01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:27.520
him notoriety, it gets him on podcasts, It probably gets
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01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:32.119
him paid for speaking at conferences and YouTube monetization and
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01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:36.600
everything else that's happening. These are the most dangerous people
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01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:40.159
in this community, man, These people that are leading people
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01:22:40.199 --> 01:22:44.279
to believe things because it benefits them and no one else,
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01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:46.760
no one else, even though yeah, can I.
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01:22:46.720 --> 01:22:50.720
Say something on people lens? People blam onto that stuff.
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01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:52.880
They get so defensive about it if you try to
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01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:56.720
tell them it's wrong, but fuck, you know, and I'm like, oh, dude,
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01:22:56.760 --> 01:22:59.239
like you don't understand this is not real. And I
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01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:01.159
trust you more more than I trust him, Like I
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trust your judgment, you know. And because I don't even
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01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:06.359
know him, to be honest, I'd like I had him
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on like a year and a half ago or something,
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and I don't. I just didn't really, you know, I didn't.
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I didn't. I don't know. You know. It's something when
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01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:15.880
they didn't like quite better with me with with with him,
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01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:18.760
so I but yeah, it's it's like, I don't understand
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why people blam onto this stuff, and then they they
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01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:24.119
fight for it so bad. I guess they want to well, because.
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There's a lot of good information in it, because people
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are repeating and regurgitating information that possibly has a level
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01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:35.239
of truth to it. And there are individuals that I
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do believe have genuine experiences in these realms. And I'll
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01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:43.520
go a little further into my current understanding of what
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01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:47.840
could be happening with individuals that are having genuine experiences
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01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:51.520
in the secret space realms, mainly where they believe they
1304
01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:54.720
are taken to different locations, maybe off planet, and they
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01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:58.680
have missions and tasks to do for these secret clandestine
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01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:02.800
military groups. Now, this is very true to some of
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01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:05.159
these people. I can tell by talking to them that
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01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:08.159
a lot of these people really believe their stories. They're
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01:24:08.199 --> 01:24:11.000
not in it just to get some kind of notoriety,
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01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:14.760
and they've had traumatic things happen to them. Tony Rodriguez,
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01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:18.279
I truly believe he's had some very traumatic things happened
1312
01:24:18.319 --> 01:24:22.680
to him. He's had some unexplainable things. To what degree
1313
01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:25.399
is true, I could never tell you, but I will
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01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:30.880
tell you this that based on the collective stories that
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01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:35.039
I've heard from this and insights from outsiders like writer
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01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:38.640
and others who have done some outside research into this,
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01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:43.319
on top of that my own experiences with plant medicines, meditations,
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01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:49.800
dream states, and contact and different profound experiences that seemingly
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01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:57.399
take place in other realms, other layers of perception or awareness,
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01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:02.079
And having experienced these myself myself, I know how profound
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01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:03.760
they can be. I know how real they can be
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01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:07.520
when you're in that event, when you're in the vision,
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01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:10.079
when you're in a plant medicine state, when you're in
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01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:13.520
a dream, probably when you're in an abduction situation or
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01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:18.359
a contact situation, it will your entire reality becomes all
1326
01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:21.720
encompassing with what this experience is, and it is more
1327
01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:25.359
real than real life. And I think to a degree,
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01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:30.039
our consciousness is interacting with something else that we can't
1329
01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:34.680
normally perceive during these situations. And this is just my
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01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:39.119
current theory on this, and it'll it can change tomorrow
1331
01:25:39.239 --> 01:25:41.359
based on new information. But I believe what a lot
1332
01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:43.600
of people are experiencing with this.
1333
01:25:44.279 --> 01:25:46.960
Are different astral realities.
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01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:49.720
Most of these folks say that a lot of these
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01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:54.880
experience happen in dream states, or they will go to
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01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:59.039
bed and have missing time. I believe that when a
1337
01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:01.800
lot most of us, probably all of us, go to sleep,
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01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:06.159
we are entering different states of awareness, even different states,
1339
01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:10.640
different astral states, different dimensions, if you will. Our consciousness
1340
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:14.960
is traveling, it's interacting, it's working, And I think these
1341
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people have a very profound ability to be aware of
1342
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:23.079
these different realities as their consciousness is traversing them, and
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01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:28.920
they may have a level of awareness to where it
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01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:34.960
becomes that they can experience these other realities in a
1345
01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:39.079
way that we experience this material reality that they're indeed
1346
01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:42.960
in a different realm and they're interacting with different intelligences.
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01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:46.560
But maybe not, maybe not because of them. Oh that's okay,
1348
01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:48.840
just let me finish. Maybe not because of the military.
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01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:51.680
Maybe it has nothing to do with the military. Maybe
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01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:55.199
it is their own soul mission. Maybe it's their conscious
1351
01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:59.359
mission and military entities somehow get involved. Or if it
1352
01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:02.039
is the milis military that brings in a whole different
1353
01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:05.880
level of deception there sound go ahead.
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01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:09.199
Yeah, I feel like something's definitely going on with like
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the black Ops programs, like reverse engineered UFOs and then
1356
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:14.840
like it seems like there was a lot of alien
1357
01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:18.439
abductions over time, like and and and and and a
1358
01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:20.680
lot of people reported them to be like negative, you
1359
01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:22.399
know what I mean. So it makes me think something
1360
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:24.880
was going on and then and also with the Secret
1361
01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:25.720
Space people too.
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01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:27.800
But but what I was gonna ask you was, do
1363
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you feel like this is all like a like a
1364
01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:32.880
like a like an actual reality, because I think it
1365
01:27:33.319 --> 01:27:35.560
is really to a certain degree, like because I feel
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like when I when I go to I think I've
1367
01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:39.199
told you about this. When I have dreams, like I'll
1368
01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:41.960
dream about like that I'm I'm living in a whole
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01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:44.600
different place and I'm experiencing a whole other world, and
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like I think I told you, Like I'll have dreams
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01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:48.960
like where I'm like working on a farm and it'll
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be like for like honestly like a wake a week,
1373
01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:52.920
you know what I mean. Like I'll be doing like
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work on this farm and I'm like I make building
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01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:58.840
barns and milking college. Meanwhile in my life now, I'm
1376
01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:01.199
like a city slip, you know. I'm like it's in
1377
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the suburbs, you know what I mean. I live basically
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in the city.
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My whole life. I've never been on a farm or
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anything like that. And then I'll have these other dream
1381
01:28:08.119 --> 01:28:11.119
skips where I'm like a criminal and I'm like I'm
1382
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:13.760
being chased by someone and it all seems so real.
1383
01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:15.960
So it makes me think, do you think these are
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like actual other realities that our consciousness occupies. And then
1385
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if it is, what is this reality? Because sometimes people
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01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:27.079
say that this reality is like more of a dream
1387
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than what our dream world is. I'm sure you've heard
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people say that, what do you think of.
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You know, I'm with that one hundred percent. I don't
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01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:36.319
think this is our real reality. I think that whatever
1391
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is outside of our perception is our home, is the afterlife,
1392
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:46.119
is what we would consider different dimensions and realities. What
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01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:50.119
we're experiencing now is for us to have experience, to
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experience duality, to learn from the light and dark polarities
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01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:57.239
that exist in this density. I believe it was created
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for us to experience that the good, the bad, and
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01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:04.399
the ugly is all part of this experience. But the
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real existence that we have, our natural state, I believe,
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01:29:10.119 --> 01:29:15.600
is an astral form outside of this physical reality. And
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when people are having these profound experiences where they're being
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01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:22.119
taken or they are living lives in different realities, I
1402
01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:26.359
think that they are they really are experiencing these different
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01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:32.119
astral realms that probably surround us at all times. Now,
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01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:34.960
getting to the military, my lab side of this, I
1405
01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:37.560
one hundred percent believe this happens too. I think people
1406
01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:43.159
are being targeted by different clandestine groups, and I've kind
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01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:47.640
of had a checklist formed over the years from people's
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01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:52.399
experiences in these realms. They all seem to have very
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01:29:52.520 --> 01:29:57.720
early paranormal experiences in their lives from a very young age,
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01:29:57.960 --> 01:30:06.079
poltergeist apparition, things moving around, also very powerful psychic consciousness abilities,
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01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:12.239
intuitive abilities. These people usually have military families or family
1412
01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:15.840
members that are high level in the military. Later on,
1413
01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:20.119
a lot of these people are offered strangely enough jobs
1414
01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:25.279
in high level positions in either aerospace companies or branches
1415
01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:29.439
of the military or three letter agencies. Somehow that's not
1416
01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:31.720
across the board, but some of these people are that
1417
01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:35.039
I've spoken to. Some of them even join the military
1418
01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:38.600
for a period of time, have some level of involvement
1419
01:30:39.199 --> 01:30:42.880
with that, and then once they hit their teenage years
1420
01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:45.920
later in life, they start to be taken They start
1421
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:49.840
to even younger, they remember younger memories where they're taken
1422
01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:53.279
to these like classrooms, these etheric classrooms, where they're being
1423
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:57.760
taught things. Some of them are being tortured and raped
1424
01:30:57.800 --> 01:31:00.720
and being used for DNA experiments.
1425
01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:03.159
There's all a spectrum.
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01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:06.840
Of horrible to not so horrible things that are occurring
1427
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:12.079
with these military types of inductions and interactions, but the
1428
01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:16.399
main theme is the folks can never truly remember what happened.
1429
01:31:16.439 --> 01:31:21.279
It's very dream like and there are often extraterrestrial beings
1430
01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:25.399
involved with some of these abductions and they seem to
1431
01:31:25.439 --> 01:31:28.880
be ongoing. So that's a very interesting aspect to all
1432
01:31:28.920 --> 01:31:29.239
of that.
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01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:33.279
Yeah, I don't know what it is, crazy right. I
1434
01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:36.600
like one of the researchers I really like is James Bartley.
1435
01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:41.079
He seems he's pretty grounded, you know, and he talks
1436
01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:43.640
a lot about reptilians, but he brings it in a
1437
01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:46.199
way like where he ties it into the military and
1438
01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:46.960
stuff like that.
1439
01:31:47.439 --> 01:31:47.640
You know.
1440
01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:51.479
Eve Lorgan I think is a good one too. I
1441
01:31:51.560 --> 01:31:53.680
like having them on. But where was I go with this?
1442
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:56.760
It seems like, Yeah, I don't know what people are accessing,
1443
01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:59.560
you know. I wish I wish it's not like we're
1444
01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:02.439
given like a blueprint of this reality. So it's like
1445
01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:04.399
we have to try to figure all this stuff out.
1446
01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:06.880
And I guess it's what's so hard is like, you know,
1447
01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:08.880
like none of us have proof, you know what I mean,
1448
01:32:08.960 --> 01:32:12.479
Like we're very rare people. Some people have proof, right,
1449
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:15.199
but like it's very rare, Like they don't let you
1450
01:32:15.239 --> 01:32:17.640
come back from these astrails streams, and like they don't
1451
01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:20.039
write you bring proof, and if you get abducted, you're
1452
01:32:20.039 --> 01:32:22.119
never allowed to have proof, if you know what I mean.
1453
01:32:22.199 --> 01:32:24.720
So it's so hard, and I think that's what happens
1454
01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:27.479
in our community is like everybody's trying to prove that
1455
01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:31.239
they're right about something, and then we not ays have
1456
01:32:31.279 --> 01:32:33.279
proofs that everybody ends up arguing with each other. And
1457
01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:36.199
I'm like, we were arguing is the wrong thing, Like
1458
01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:39.359
it's not getting us anywhere. You know, the people who
1459
01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:43.880
control us aren't arguing. You know, they're very uniform in
1460
01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:45.800
the way that they control us and the way that
1461
01:32:45.880 --> 01:32:50.760
they make us us perceive our reality. So you know,
1462
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:52.920
if we could be a little bit more organized and
1463
01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:55.000
we put in fight with each other and maybe we
1464
01:32:55.399 --> 01:32:57.399
could present our ideas kind of like how you and
1465
01:32:57.439 --> 01:33:00.720
I are now, maybe we could you know, find out
1466
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:02.960
more about what's going on with this reality, you know,
1467
01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:04.560
you know what I mean, Like you.
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01:33:06.720 --> 01:33:07.840
That's all it is.
1469
01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:11.960
If we could just come together and share ideas without
1470
01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:18.079
being ready to dismiss at at any given moment, any
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01:33:18.279 --> 01:33:22.520
other person's operative ideas. If we could just compare notes,
1472
01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:26.720
we could get so much further, because there is a
1473
01:33:26.840 --> 01:33:30.960
level of truth in all of these theories, and they
1474
01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:38.520
all connect together very profoundly. I believe, from extraterrestrial experiences
1475
01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:46.359
to spiritual angelic these military abductions and everything that's unfolding
1476
01:33:46.399 --> 01:33:48.199
in our reality has this.
1477
01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:50.119
It's all interconnected.
1478
01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:54.840
It's all part of this synchronistic puzzle that we're in.
1479
01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:58.560
I believe, and a lot of more.
1480
01:33:58.359 --> 01:34:01.680
Spiritual or religious people believe that we're supposed to remain
1481
01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:04.439
a mystery and we're never supposed to figure out these things,
1482
01:34:04.479 --> 01:34:07.920
are supposed to shy away from it and just be timid,
1483
01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:10.680
little monkey humans that go about our lives.
1484
01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:12.359
But I don't think that's what we're here for.
1485
01:34:12.399 --> 01:34:15.039
I think we're more like cosmic detectives that are coming
1486
01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:18.159
out to try and figure out why we're here, what
1487
01:34:18.199 --> 01:34:21.960
we're doing here. To the best degree, we can make
1488
01:34:22.039 --> 01:34:25.560
this place a paradise on Earth, because I believe that
1489
01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:27.520
it has the possibility to be.
1490
01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:28.479
It is just.
1491
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:33.720
Right now under the control of dark energies and dark forces,
1492
01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:38.520
whether those energies are there for us to destroy them,
1493
01:34:38.680 --> 01:34:42.560
or they're there for us to attempt to keep us here.
1494
01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:48.039
Either way, there is this force of ultimate light, where
1495
01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:51.239
you want to call it god source that I believe
1496
01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:53.640
is guiding each and every one of us to wake
1497
01:34:53.680 --> 01:34:57.039
the hell up right now and find our purpose and
1498
01:34:57.039 --> 01:35:00.000
find our path. What we're seeing on the other side,
1499
01:35:00.279 --> 01:35:03.640
on the dark side is failure after failure. We're seeing
1500
01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:11.159
the evidence of corruption coming out, pedophilia, dark ritualistic activities
1501
01:35:11.279 --> 01:35:16.439
amongst world leaders and celebrities. Everything is coming out right now,
1502
01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:20.920
and it's to our benefit. All these things are happening
1503
01:35:20.960 --> 01:35:23.399
for a reason, because it's the I think it's the
1504
01:35:23.479 --> 01:35:27.399
time for all the darkness to die out and the
1505
01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:31.560
light to start being the dominant force in this reality.
1506
01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:35.000
What do you think I think so? I think so.
1507
01:35:35.239 --> 01:35:37.680
One thing I wanted to ask you about when you
1508
01:35:37.680 --> 01:35:39.720
were kind of talking about like our reality and like
1509
01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:43.439
the whole reincarnation thing. I've had a couple people on
1510
01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:46.760
about this. I'm sure you have two about the soul
1511
01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:49.399
trat theory, like and you know what's weird is like
1512
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:52.079
that whole theory kind of started. I feel like it
1513
01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:55.359
has roots back to the art Bell Show because John
1514
01:35:55.439 --> 01:35:57.920
Leer and Whitley Striver used to come on art Bell
1515
01:35:58.000 --> 01:35:59.720
and they would talk about that the light was a
1516
01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:02.279
t and that, you know, they would say not to
1517
01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:05.119
go to the light. And then now and more and
1518
01:36:05.159 --> 01:36:08.960
more researchers you have, like Isabella Green and I know
1519
01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:12.760
Mark from Forever Conscious Research talks about it, and there's
1520
01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:14.880
there's a lot of other people that talk about this
1521
01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:18.199
soul trap, that like we're here, that we're trapped on
1522
01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:21.119
like a prison planet, and that we're being recycled and
1523
01:36:21.239 --> 01:36:24.239
used as batteries and that it's like a never ending thing,
1524
01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:27.560
and and everybody seems to have like a different idea
1525
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:30.159
as to how to get out or people think some
1526
01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:32.720
people think we're doomed, but like do you have a
1527
01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:34.439
do you have an idea? Do you have a theory
1528
01:36:34.439 --> 01:36:35.640
on the whole soul trap thing?
1529
01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:38.000
And do you think it's like a do I have
1530
01:36:38.079 --> 01:36:40.960
to go the positive route on this? Just because of
1531
01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:43.920
where I'm at in my life, I used to heavily
1532
01:36:43.960 --> 01:36:47.359
consider the the soul trap, that we're being recycled into
1533
01:36:47.399 --> 01:36:51.319
this arconic loose form, that negative entities control the material
1534
01:36:51.399 --> 01:36:53.960
reality and just feed off of h and that's how
1535
01:36:54.039 --> 01:36:57.199
there is no I don't think so after especially after
1536
01:36:57.239 --> 01:37:00.720
the experiences I've had recently in my life that were
1537
01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:06.119
shown me that this reality is not a soul trap
1538
01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:09.479
looche form, that isn't an experiential realm for us to
1539
01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:13.159
learn and grow. And from what I've learned through those
1540
01:37:13.239 --> 01:37:17.800
experiences is that all is from source. That source created everything,
1541
01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:19.960
even the bad, even the good, and it's all for
1542
01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:24.319
us to learn and grow from. And that reincarnation is
1543
01:37:24.680 --> 01:37:27.359
definitely a thing. And I've seen my past lives. I've
1544
01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:30.640
seen how many thousands of times and possibilities that I've
1545
01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:33.720
been here trying to figure things out. But what I
1546
01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:37.920
also saw this time is the answer to getting home,
1547
01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:42.000
and that is your path. And my path was through Jesus.
1548
01:37:42.039 --> 01:37:46.079
My path is through God and that was my ultimate birthright.
1549
01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:48.920
But there's many paths. Is you can get there through Booty,
1550
01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:51.239
you can get there through Krishna, you can get there
1551
01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:53.079
through any of these. But you have to have an
1552
01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:58.000
ultimate belief in something that is the afterlife. And if
1553
01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:02.000
you don't have that, when for me, I saw I
1554
01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:04.399
didn't have that, and I kept coming back looking for it,
1555
01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:06.680
and I never was able to find the answer for
1556
01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:09.359
so long until now I found it. I found that
1557
01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:13.560
God is the Father. This is my home and I
1558
01:38:13.640 --> 01:38:15.840
get to go home now as long as I do
1559
01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:19.640
this mission, stick with my path and don't divert, and
1560
01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:22.920
don't lose this ultimate belief, because this belief is the
1561
01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:27.600
key to getting back home. So being recycled here is
1562
01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:33.279
all about learning what's your path home. And hell doesn't exist,
1563
01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:36.039
but it exists if you make it. This realm can
1564
01:38:36.119 --> 01:38:38.199
be hell. This realm is hell if that's what you
1565
01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:41.680
make it. If you live your life negatively, that is
1566
01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:44.560
the worst that it will ever get for you. But
1567
01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:48.399
it's all about your perception. If you start to transmute
1568
01:38:48.439 --> 01:38:50.760
things and live your life in a positive way, this
1569
01:38:51.680 --> 01:38:54.119
realm can be a paradise. And I think that's what
1570
01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:56.239
the idea is for all of us to come to
1571
01:38:56.279 --> 01:39:01.800
that realization. Stop participating with the negative police turned towards
1572
01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:05.119
the light, and even the darkest of the lizard people
1573
01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:08.159
have this ability to transmute and do this. That's why
1574
01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:11.359
I don't think that destroying them all and killing all
1575
01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:15.680
the pedophiles and evil people around the world is the answer.
1576
01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:20.399
I think that everyone has the ability or should have
1577
01:39:20.479 --> 01:39:26.199
the option to go home. And yes, everyone should face
1578
01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:29.920
consequences for all the evil actions that they did, and
1579
01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:34.680
they will. But what we're experiencing now, I've seen is
1580
01:39:34.760 --> 01:39:39.840
an opportunity for the collective to go home, at least
1581
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:44.479
those that are on the right side, that are on
1582
01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:47.079
the light side, that aren't on the dark side, and
1583
01:39:47.159 --> 01:39:51.840
even the scaly lizard people have an opportunity if they
1584
01:39:52.359 --> 01:39:56.399
change their ways and completely repent. And I've seen all
1585
01:39:56.479 --> 01:40:00.319
this through multiple visions, and I truly believe that that
1586
01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:03.279
this is not a soul trap. This is our experiential realm,
1587
01:40:03.640 --> 01:40:07.199
and it can be hell on earth if we make
1588
01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:09.600
it that, but it can also be a wonderful thing.
1589
01:40:10.399 --> 01:40:13.560
But we have an option to go home at any time,
1590
01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:15.640
in all times, and we have the option to come
1591
01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:17.760
back and help others go home at any time.
1592
01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:22.359
I noticed you mentioned Jesus, Like what what what what
1593
01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:24.520
made you like starting or did you or did you
1594
01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:26.800
just like start embracing Jesus. I mean, I believe he
1595
01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:29.319
is a real person. I just have like I'm conflicted
1596
01:40:29.359 --> 01:40:31.560
about it, but I'd love to hear like when you've
1597
01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:34.640
thought about it, because I really like respect your opinions.
1598
01:40:34.680 --> 01:40:37.479
Yeah, it's a long story. Man, it's a if you.
1599
01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:40.960
If if the audience wants to hear the full complete story,
1600
01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:43.760
go listen to episode one of it happened May the fourth,
1601
01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:47.399
But I'll break it down very briefly and quickly for you.
1602
01:40:47.439 --> 01:40:51.680
I grew up in a very Catholic Christian dogmatic home. Uh.
1603
01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:53.159
I went to Catholic school.
1604
01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:57.720
I was always terrified by the dogma and the possibility
1605
01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:00.680
of going to Hell because I didn't follow a certain doctrine.
1606
01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:03.760
I would read the Bible back and forth in class
1607
01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:06.159
because I didn't pay attention to anything else and I
1608
01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:08.920
was bored, so I'd decided to read the Bible. The
1609
01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:12.880
Old Testament was really terrifying for me, and I'd read
1610
01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:15.439
it over and over just to try and get a
1611
01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:20.560
sense of how this can be a loving God that
1612
01:41:20.600 --> 01:41:21.640
there is portrayed in this.
1613
01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:24.239
And then we get to the New Testament. When Jesus came.
1614
01:41:24.159 --> 01:41:26.680
In line, I really was drawn to this. I was
1615
01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:30.680
drawn to the Jesus character and what it stood for
1616
01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:33.880
and what it meant, and the Book of Revelations as well,
1617
01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:37.640
and the possibilities with this. So that always stuck with me.
1618
01:41:37.800 --> 01:41:41.399
I ended up falling out of any spiritual or religious
1619
01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:44.159
beliefs for the longest time and fell into the matrix,
1620
01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:46.920
into sleeping land for a very long time because that
1621
01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:51.279
dogma really terrified me and I did want to have anything.
1622
01:41:50.880 --> 01:41:51.479
To do with it.
1623
01:41:52.079 --> 01:41:56.399
Well, we fast forward to my recent experiences, starting with meditation,
1624
01:41:56.760 --> 01:42:00.840
contacting my guides, being led to is to start doing
1625
01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:05.239
this show, having all these realizations that everything in my
1626
01:42:05.319 --> 01:42:09.439
life has led to these moments. Well, what happened May
1627
01:42:09.479 --> 01:42:14.399
the fourth is I had a really conscious near death
1628
01:42:14.439 --> 01:42:21.479
experience where I truly thought I was dead and I
1629
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:22.880
was led to.
1630
01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:29.159
I was led to God. It was a very profound experience.
1631
01:42:29.399 --> 01:42:32.439
I thought I was really thought I had died. I
1632
01:42:32.520 --> 01:42:39.560
was walking through my neighborhood and everything was demonic around me.
1633
01:42:40.319 --> 01:42:42.079
Like I said, go back and listen to the full
1634
01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:44.600
story to get a full idea of this. But it
1635
01:42:44.720 --> 01:42:47.239
was the most profound experience I had in my life.
1636
01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:49.840
And I was going through a life review.
1637
01:42:50.720 --> 01:42:53.199
I was asking, I said, you know, I guess that
1638
01:42:53.760 --> 01:42:56.600
I never found God, so that's why I'm not in
1639
01:42:56.640 --> 01:43:00.479
heaven right now. So I started praying to Jesus. I
1640
01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:02.920
laid down in the middle of the street and surrendered,
1641
01:43:03.680 --> 01:43:06.239
and when I closed my eyes all I saw with
1642
01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:09.199
these demons all around me, and I heard this voice say, look,
1643
01:43:09.199 --> 01:43:13.840
it's all about your perspective, even in the afterlife. And
1644
01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:16.960
as I thought about that, I looked at the stars
1645
01:43:16.960 --> 01:43:19.119
and they were beautiful, and I'm like, man, this can't
1646
01:43:19.119 --> 01:43:21.760
be hell, because you know, these stars are so beautiful.
1647
01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:24.359
And I heard this voice say, look for the light,
1648
01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:27.159
but with your eyes closed. And I got up and
1649
01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:30.800
I'm looking around and I still see these demon faces
1650
01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:33.199
around but I turn in a certain direction. I see
1651
01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:36.119
this bright light in the distance as my eyes are closed,
1652
01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:39.199
and I'm like, I guess I gotta walk towards that light.
1653
01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:44.319
And I start walking in that direction and it brings
1654
01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:47.760
me directly to a house that had this massive welcome
1655
01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:49.880
sign and it was lit up more than any other
1656
01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:53.640
houses in the neighborhood. And I'm thinking, all right, I'm dead.
1657
01:43:54.199 --> 01:43:57.359
This house is either the doorway to heaven or I'm
1658
01:43:57.399 --> 01:44:00.199
gonna knock on this door and they're gonna bring me
1659
01:44:00.279 --> 01:44:03.319
to Hell, the the authorities in Hell, and I'll talk
1660
01:44:03.359 --> 01:44:05.319
to the devil about everything. I'm gonna give him a
1661
01:44:05.319 --> 01:44:08.600
peace of my mind. Either way, I'm ready for it.
1662
01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:11.520
So I decided to go knock on this ring.
1663
01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:12.359
This doorbell, and.
1664
01:44:14.079 --> 01:44:18.000
It ended up being a preacher and I didn't know
1665
01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:20.159
this at the time, and he asked to pray with me,
1666
01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:22.439
and I told him I think I'm dead. He's like, no,
1667
01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:23.880
you're You're here, shake my hand.
1668
01:44:23.920 --> 01:44:24.600
You're not dead.
1669
01:44:25.720 --> 01:44:27.479
And I'm like, well, I must be in a coma
1670
01:44:27.560 --> 01:44:29.279
or something. He's like, well, why don't you just pray
1671
01:44:29.319 --> 01:44:30.840
with me? And I didn't know he was a preacher
1672
01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:32.960
at the time. So I start praying and I just
1673
01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:38.159
start crying, man, and I start feeling all these incredible feelings,
1674
01:44:38.199 --> 01:44:42.199
and he ends up taking me home and like I
1675
01:44:42.319 --> 01:44:44.560
wasn't dead. I ended up when I realized when I
1676
01:44:44.600 --> 01:44:48.119
got home, I'm not dead. Oh my God, and that
1677
01:44:48.239 --> 01:44:50.319
changed everything in my life. And I just had this
1678
01:44:50.439 --> 01:44:53.840
realization that God led me. That was God is real.
1679
01:44:53.880 --> 01:44:57.079
He led me there, So if that's real, what else is?
1680
01:44:57.239 --> 01:44:59.319
And I spent the next few days I met I
1681
01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:02.000
met with this pre and I had two hour long
1682
01:45:02.039 --> 01:45:07.039
conversations about everything, and I came to realize that, yeah,
1683
01:45:07.079 --> 01:45:10.439
he saved me. But I have some messages for the
1684
01:45:11.359 --> 01:45:16.119
for the Christian community that they need to hear. And
1685
01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:21.840
that's basically the dogma needs to go. The organization and
1686
01:45:21.960 --> 01:45:27.560
the level that of control that the church has needs
1687
01:45:27.800 --> 01:45:28.279
to go.
1688
01:45:29.479 --> 01:45:30.840
The idea that.
1689
01:45:30.760 --> 01:45:33.600
We're going to hell when we die needs to go,
1690
01:45:33.680 --> 01:45:37.319
The idea that there's no reincarnation needs to go. The
1691
01:45:37.399 --> 01:45:42.279
ideas that keep a lot of Christian folks in a
1692
01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:47.439
box and experiencing the beauty of life, they really have
1693
01:45:47.640 --> 01:45:51.399
no place here because it's based on an old control system,
1694
01:45:51.680 --> 01:45:55.279
it's based on evil. And I just started to get
1695
01:45:55.279 --> 01:45:58.800
all these downloads and realizations of why I've been doing
1696
01:45:58.840 --> 01:46:01.800
this the whole time, been doing this show the messages
1697
01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:05.279
that I'm supposed to be bringing to people, and it
1698
01:46:05.319 --> 01:46:09.239
has to what's that? And it has to include now
1699
01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:12.760
my knowing, my knowing that there is a God and
1700
01:46:12.800 --> 01:46:16.159
I was led to God, and it doesn't have to
1701
01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:22.600
be this whole dogmatic Hallelujah, Praise Jesus, ridiculous idea of
1702
01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:26.199
what a connection to God is. A connection to God
1703
01:46:26.359 --> 01:46:28.720
is what we all have and we don't realize it.
1704
01:46:29.079 --> 01:46:31.239
That voice in all of our heads saying don't touch
1705
01:46:31.239 --> 01:46:34.439
that hot thing, be careful, that's God talking to us
1706
01:46:34.479 --> 01:46:36.960
at all times. We all have this connection and we
1707
01:46:37.119 --> 01:46:40.760
try to make it so dogmatic and mysterious and woo
1708
01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:42.560
woo that people are afraid of it.
1709
01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:44.640
But there's nothing to be afraid of. It's all love.
1710
01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:49.399
It is pure love, and anything beyond that is what
1711
01:46:49.560 --> 01:46:53.000
we need to try and avoid at all costs and
1712
01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:57.439
come closer to that ultimate love. And like I said,
1713
01:46:57.479 --> 01:47:00.479
if you want to understand more about the series of
1714
01:47:00.479 --> 01:47:03.079
events that led to that, go listen to it happened
1715
01:47:03.159 --> 01:47:06.359
maybe the fourth episode one. But I have more peace
1716
01:47:06.399 --> 01:47:08.039
in my life now than I ever had.
1717
01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:13.600
That's amazing. That's an amazing story. That's an amazing experience
1718
01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:15.640
that you were able to have. Like one thing I
1719
01:47:15.720 --> 01:47:19.319
remember Gerald used to say that he thought that Jesus
1720
01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:22.439
was thought. You know that this being like stuck around
1721
01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:27.079
over time to like help humankind, you know, in different incarnation.
1722
01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:28.359
I can get done with that, man.
1723
01:47:28.479 --> 01:47:32.119
I think that you know, this Christ consciousness appeared in
1724
01:47:32.279 --> 01:47:35.840
different beings throughout time. And the best part about all
1725
01:47:35.880 --> 01:47:41.079
of this, You've talked to Frankie Fearless, right, So I
1726
01:47:41.239 --> 01:47:43.039
like how he has to say about this part. And
1727
01:47:43.079 --> 01:47:45.079
I say it all the time. People probably get tired
1728
01:47:45.079 --> 01:47:48.279
of me saying this, but he's like when j C
1729
01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:51.239
came down the first time, he tried to get people
1730
01:47:51.239 --> 01:47:53.960
to understand these concepts and he got killed for it.
1731
01:47:54.399 --> 01:47:57.439
But guess what, this time, God's going to send down
1732
01:47:57.479 --> 01:48:00.600
like a million j c's, and they're will be no
1733
01:48:00.760 --> 01:48:03.560
way to stop all of us because we're all going
1734
01:48:03.640 --> 01:48:06.920
to have this christ consciousness and we're all going to
1735
01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:11.000
bring that awareness and it will be impossible for failure
1736
01:48:11.079 --> 01:48:11.560
this time.
1737
01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:15.760
Yeah, do you think that's what's happening with like the
1738
01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:17.920
spiritual awakening? Kind of like that?
1739
01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:19.359
I do.
1740
01:48:19.520 --> 01:48:25.680
It seems to Wow, this is an amazing story. So
1741
01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:28.600
you were you were you on like a psychedelic.
1742
01:48:28.439 --> 01:48:32.439
When this happened, and the psychedelic journeys were just a
1743
01:48:32.520 --> 01:48:35.279
part of everything I had been doing. I had started
1744
01:48:35.319 --> 01:48:40.199
being able to lucid dreaming, My meditations were going off
1745
01:48:40.239 --> 01:48:43.640
the charts. I'd be having these day visions. I no
1746
01:48:43.720 --> 01:48:47.079
longer do psychedelics anymore. That was the last experience I've
1747
01:48:47.079 --> 01:48:50.199
had besides my wedding where we each had a little
1748
01:48:50.199 --> 01:48:53.439
bit of sacremonial tea with the whole wedding party, which
1749
01:48:53.479 --> 01:48:57.119
was a wonderful time. But I know I'm going to
1750
01:48:57.199 --> 01:48:59.640
be growing mushrooms for other people to have, but I
1751
01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:00.479
don't need them.
1752
01:49:00.479 --> 01:49:00.920
Anymore.
1753
01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:05.960
Because my connection was solidified through this event, I can
1754
01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:09.199
now pull the information I need directly through a conversation
1755
01:49:09.399 --> 01:49:13.199
with Source. And I'm so very grateful for that. And
1756
01:49:13.199 --> 01:49:16.159
that's not to say occasionally I might not go visit
1757
01:49:16.319 --> 01:49:19.600
with a little bit of psilocybin journey in the future.
1758
01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:24.119
But as for this seeking that I was doing, there's
1759
01:49:24.159 --> 01:49:27.560
no longer any need for I've gotten the answers that
1760
01:49:27.640 --> 01:49:30.039
I need for now. There's always more answers. I'm never
1761
01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:32.760
gonna know at all. It's impossible for anyone to but
1762
01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:37.079
for this mission for where I'm going, I've got my
1763
01:49:37.159 --> 01:49:40.640
blueprint and I no longer need to go so deep
1764
01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:43.199
into these other realms to find the answers.
1765
01:49:43.880 --> 01:49:44.399
I've found.
1766
01:49:44.439 --> 01:49:48.119
What I've ultimately the main tool that I need to
1767
01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:52.680
navigate the rest of this physical reality and stick with
1768
01:49:52.800 --> 01:49:55.359
my mission. And it's just two pieces of information. It's
1769
01:49:55.439 --> 01:49:58.760
just stick with your information. You're a messenger. You need
1770
01:49:58.800 --> 01:50:01.720
to bring awareness of all the things that I talk
1771
01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:05.279
about every day, but mainly that God is love. Love
1772
01:50:05.359 --> 01:50:07.680
is the answer, and that is what we all need
1773
01:50:07.720 --> 01:50:12.880
to be heading towards, and that we need to stop
1774
01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:17.279
focusing on all the negative things that are trying to
1775
01:50:17.520 --> 01:50:21.880
distract us in this world, and there's nothing to fear.
1776
01:50:22.079 --> 01:50:25.640
There is no hell. We create our own hell, and
1777
01:50:26.359 --> 01:50:29.640
we stop giving. If we stop giving it power, there's
1778
01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:33.880
nothing left to fuel that misery, and we can start
1779
01:50:34.039 --> 01:50:37.560
experiencing things much differently in this reality. And I think
1780
01:50:37.600 --> 01:50:39.760
that's what this whole time period is about.
1781
01:50:40.239 --> 01:50:41.279
We're gonna go through.
1782
01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:44.479
Some growing pains, It's gonna be tough, but the main
1783
01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:47.359
message is to stay strong and have no fear, because
1784
01:50:47.600 --> 01:50:49.960
this is the idea behind it all. You think this
1785
01:50:50.079 --> 01:50:55.279
COVID thing happened because the elites and globalists wanted it to, No, sir,
1786
01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:59.600
this was something much larger than some evil people trying
1787
01:50:59.640 --> 01:51:00.159
to take.
1788
01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:03.000
Control of the world. This was a greater force.
1789
01:51:03.039 --> 01:51:06.800
That is trying to end the world as we knew it.
1790
01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:10.800
Not the entire world, but the darkness, to to destroy
1791
01:51:11.079 --> 01:51:14.840
the darkness in this world that has been feeding us
1792
01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:19.920
and controlling us and keeping us trapped within ourselves is
1793
01:51:20.079 --> 01:51:22.319
dying right now, and it's putting up a fight because
1794
01:51:22.359 --> 01:51:26.239
it doesn't want to die. And there's this wonderful there's
1795
01:51:26.279 --> 01:51:28.479
this wonderful woman I'm having coming on my show. I
1796
01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:30.520
know her first name is Ola, and forgive me, I
1797
01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:34.000
forgot her last name, but yes, yes, she has this.
1798
01:51:34.439 --> 01:51:35.880
I've had my show three times.
1799
01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:40.159
Yes, her idea of what's happening right now, the the apocalypse,
1800
01:51:40.199 --> 01:51:42.880
the end of the old gods is exactly how I
1801
01:51:42.920 --> 01:51:46.960
see it. These old intelligences that controlled our material way
1802
01:51:47.000 --> 01:51:49.359
of thinking, that taught us how to live in this
1803
01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:54.960
material world, gave us metallurgy, mathematics, the Nephelim, the fallen angels,
1804
01:51:55.399 --> 01:51:58.560
those guys are going away now because we have no
1805
01:51:58.840 --> 01:52:01.800
We no longer have need for these material things. Where
1806
01:52:01.840 --> 01:52:04.960
we're going in this incarnation. I think it's all going
1807
01:52:05.039 --> 01:52:07.680
to fall away, this new earthing that a lot of
1808
01:52:07.680 --> 01:52:10.479
these spiritual people talk about man for the longest time,
1809
01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:12.119
I'm like, y'all are crazy.
1810
01:52:12.199 --> 01:52:14.760
This is some woo woo bs. But I see it now.
1811
01:52:15.119 --> 01:52:19.920
I see the possibility of us creating this utopian reality
1812
01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:23.560
just because the old ways are indeed dying.
1813
01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:28.920
I agree. I agree one hundred percent. When I was
1814
01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:31.039
going to say where was I going with that? I
1815
01:52:31.039 --> 01:52:33.279
had a brain p oh, did you speaking of the
1816
01:52:33.279 --> 01:52:35.119
old gods? Did you see Billy Carson was.
1817
01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:37.159
On the road. Billy's coming onto on my show in
1818
01:52:37.199 --> 01:52:37.880
a couple of weeks.
1819
01:52:39.199 --> 01:52:41.960
That's amazing. And what that makes me think is that
1820
01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:45.079
like people are starting to take things that like, not
1821
01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:47.479
maybe me and you, but like things in our community
1822
01:52:47.479 --> 01:52:50.600
are being said more seriously, you know. And that's that
1823
01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:53.279
means a lot, because if Rogan has a here open
1824
01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:55.199
to it. I used to think that Rogan might have
1825
01:52:55.239 --> 01:52:57.800
been like like an alter agent or something like that.
1826
01:52:57.840 --> 01:52:59.279
But I think he has good I.
1827
01:52:59.239 --> 01:53:01.960
Think he plays the game, man, I don't. Yeah, I
1828
01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:05.960
think he does have He's really trying to get some
1829
01:53:06.119 --> 01:53:09.880
of this alternative information out there in the only way
1830
01:53:09.920 --> 01:53:10.439
that he can't.
1831
01:53:10.439 --> 01:53:10.800
He's good.
1832
01:53:10.840 --> 01:53:14.840
He's got to playball some ways. But until I get
1833
01:53:14.880 --> 01:53:17.399
further information, I do dig what he's doing.
1834
01:53:19.159 --> 01:53:22.079
Yeah, I agree, I agree. He I mean he's bringing
1835
01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:24.199
a lot of good UFO people on and stuff like that,
1836
01:53:24.239 --> 01:53:26.680
and it seems like he's generally interested in the phenomena
1837
01:53:26.760 --> 01:53:28.760
like we are, you know, and I guess he's had
1838
01:53:28.800 --> 01:53:30.800
an interest in it for a long time, you know.
1839
01:53:31.079 --> 01:53:35.119
So it's like did you watch did you happen to
1840
01:53:35.159 --> 01:53:37.920
catch Terrence Howard on there? Too? That was like I'm done.
1841
01:53:38.079 --> 01:53:40.359
That was deep. That was past me, Like I'll admit,
1842
01:53:40.479 --> 01:53:42.640
like I wasn't aware, but like one thing that he
1843
01:53:42.760 --> 01:53:45.359
mentioned was that like that we're in like a Goldilocks
1844
01:53:45.439 --> 01:53:48.439
zone where there's life. It seems like like like where
1845
01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:50.760
a certain part of the universe creates it with the
1846
01:53:50.840 --> 01:53:53.760
sun creates a Goldiwalk zone where it enables life to
1847
01:53:53.840 --> 01:53:58.199
be born or something like that. I thought that was interesting.
1848
01:53:58.479 --> 01:54:00.159
So that makes me think, what was their life in
1849
01:54:00.199 --> 01:54:02.720
other parts of the world or you know, other parts
1850
01:54:02.720 --> 01:54:05.760
of the universe. Maybe that someplaces that don't need sun,
1851
01:54:06.279 --> 01:54:08.760
or you know, I wonder how other beings function on
1852
01:54:08.760 --> 01:54:09.359
other planets.
1853
01:54:09.560 --> 01:54:11.560
Well, this is the thing I struggle with man, is
1854
01:54:11.560 --> 01:54:16.800
the physical life existing beyond Earth on other planets?
1855
01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:20.720
So far we have very little evidence of this.
1856
01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:23.640
And how can you trust anything that NASA says based
1857
01:54:23.680 --> 01:54:26.600
on the previous deception that we know about. How can
1858
01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:30.359
you trust anything our government is coming out with about UFOs.
1859
01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:34.560
I trust people's experiences, people's genuine experience. That's why I
1860
01:54:34.560 --> 01:54:39.800
love having experiencers abductees on and it's half and half,
1861
01:54:40.079 --> 01:54:43.199
Like half will swear that this is a very physical thing.
1862
01:54:43.279 --> 01:54:45.840
These beings are real. They're coming here and I feel
1863
01:54:45.880 --> 01:54:48.960
them touch me and stick things in my butter whatever
1864
01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:52.760
they're doing. It's very fit, it's a very physical thing.
1865
01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:54.840
And then the other half, No, it's a theory. It's
1866
01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:57.800
in our consciousness. We're being taken. And here's where I'm
1867
01:54:57.800 --> 01:55:00.000
at with that. I have to lean towards the theay
1868
01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:04.680
because of my experiences. Whenever i have such a profound
1869
01:55:04.720 --> 01:55:08.520
experience where I'm interacting with this cosmic deity under the
1870
01:55:08.680 --> 01:55:12.079
effects of plant medicine or a deep meditative trance, and
1871
01:55:12.479 --> 01:55:15.840
I'm in it, it's more real than this reality. It
1872
01:55:15.960 --> 01:55:18.960
seems very physical. It seems like I could touch this
1873
01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:21.159
thing and I can feel it, and I can feel
1874
01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:26.079
everything around me. And when I'm experiencing that, that is
1875
01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:28.640
the ultimate reality to me. But when I wake up
1876
01:55:28.720 --> 01:55:30.520
or come back from the vision, it seems like a
1877
01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:34.560
dream and it seems very unreal and very mystical, and
1878
01:55:34.600 --> 01:55:38.520
it's hard even to remember at times. So I wonder
1879
01:55:38.600 --> 01:55:41.199
if that's what's happening. And people in these experience is
1880
01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:44.199
so real and physical, but when they come back it's
1881
01:55:44.239 --> 01:55:45.279
more of a dream state.
1882
01:55:45.399 --> 01:55:46.159
And earlier you.
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Were talking about the evidence physical evidence, Well, we do
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have implants. We have the alien implants from folks, and
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oftentimes it's very interesting what happens whenever we do surgically
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remove some of these things, they appear to be just
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amorphous pieces of unidentified metal at times, or it will
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have identified pieces of metal mixed in with some elements
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that may not be so common. But the interesting thing
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is it looks like it just melted into something that
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has no use or or not no longer tangibly available
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to get any information from.
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And this, you know, it freaked me out when Darryl
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Simms told me, I think it was Darryl Simms. He
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said that some of these implants, like when they when
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they look at them, they're they're they're they're encased by
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a biological cocoon or something. There's like some com biological
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agent housing the the implant thing. Which I thought was strange.
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This is even more strange.
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House.
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It seems the observer effect affects these artifacts and the
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quote unquote evidence that we could possibly have. So I've
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heard of folks that have X rays or will look
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at it through some sort of MRI machinery, some sort
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of medical machinery in a look a certain way, but
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when they actually take it out, it turns into something different. Also,
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when people are having these etheric experiences, and they're having
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these surgeries done by extraterrestrials and implants. They will show
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them the object and it looks completely different. It's like
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this transmitter. It's got all this technology in it, but
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when it's taken out, it melts down in this little
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piece of rock. Well, you think back at you think
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back at the ancient tales of the fay and fairy
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experiences where they'd go into these realms and be given
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fairy food and when it comes out it sticks and dust,
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or the baby's taken and when they go to check
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on their child, it's just a collection of rocks and sticks,
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and these things like transmute into different things, but they
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are no longer what they originally were in these realms.
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So could it be.
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This just profound metaphysical experience where these intelligence and says
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can shape shift and make you see what they want
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to see. Or is it that we can not bring
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what's in these realms into this material room because it
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will not be the same. It's very interesting.
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One other thing I was going to say that we
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have about physical evidence, and again I can't verify this
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because it's never happened to me. So and I've never
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tried it on anybody either, so you know, take this
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with a grain of salt. But when I had Darryl
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Sims on The Alien Hunter, he said that when he
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was dealing with abductees, he found something called alien fluorescence.
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And what it was was, he said, when if someone's
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touched by the grays within twenty four hours, they will
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emit some kind of weird fluorescence on their skin. And
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he said the way you find this out as you
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run a black lad over their skin. And I was
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amazed at this, and then he told me the story
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that this woman found out that she had this fluorescence
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all over her body, inside her private parts. Like it
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was like, know because it's that and that freaked me
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out to know it. And I was like, if that's real,
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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
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can't say it is because again, it's never happened to me.
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I don't have proof of this. It's just something he's
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you know, he told me. But he's But what's weird
1947
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is he's had like years of like working with abductees,
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so obviously I don't think he would. I don't know.
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It's not like he's trying to sell. No, I don't
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know what happens.
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A lot of.
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These folks get into an obsession point where it's hard
1953
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for them to see outside what they've already focused on. Darryl,
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he believes it's all a very negative, malevolent experience that's happening,
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and he's laser focused on that, so it's probably difficult
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for him to see any of the other sides of this.
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But what's interesting about grays and these physical seeming extraterrestrials,
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this is where the physical part could come in for me,
1959
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is that there are some kind of biologically engineered creations
1960
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for to how the intelligence or conscious of these interdimensional beings.
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Maybe they're non corporeal, and the only way they can
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physically interact is if they somehow construct these gray extraterrestrial
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or other types of physical extraterrestrial beings. Now, how do
1964
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they do that if they're non corporeal. Our military they
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get people in high levels of our military black projects
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to develop these biological entities, and then somehow they are
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able to house these intelligences like walk ins or possession,
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if you will.
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That's just where I'm at.
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I don't have any idea, but it seems feasible that
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maybe that could be the thing.
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I know, it would be really cool if there was
1973
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really Nordics and Reptilians, Like I don't know if there is,
1974
02:00:48.479 --> 02:00:50.640
or I was wondering, I was like, how does a
1975
02:00:50.680 --> 02:00:53.399
brain man disply spaceship? You know what I mean? I
1976
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mean if us they're dealing with their mind.
1977
02:00:54.920 --> 02:00:59.520
You know, there's another interesting thing, the tall Whites. You
1978
02:00:59.520 --> 02:01:02.199
hear about the Tall Whites a lot, right, Neil, also
1979
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hear about the extra land theory that this planet could
1980
02:01:05.279 --> 02:01:08.359
be a lot bigger, and maybe there's just different species
1981
02:01:08.399 --> 02:01:12.840
of humanoids beyond what we ice wall or whatever. Maybe
1982
02:01:12.840 --> 02:01:17.119
it's all humanoids. It's not you know, extra really extra terrestrials,
1983
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just people are civilizations that evolve differently than us or
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have always been around, and they come over to our
1985
02:01:28.520 --> 02:01:30.600
side every once in a while, and we are not
1986
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as advanced as them, so they take advantage of that
1987
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they use control tactics over us. That's a possibility too.
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I think that it's very possible that what we're living
1989
02:01:41.119 --> 02:01:44.000
on is just a lot bigger than we could imagine.
1990
02:01:45.039 --> 02:01:47.880
Oh there's this dude. His name's He's a flat earther,
1991
02:01:48.119 --> 02:01:51.000
but he's he shows a lot of what he calls proof.
1992
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His name's Italian PNC on I know that's it saysn't
1993
02:01:55.319 --> 02:01:58.359
sound like an but on YouTube, and he has the
1994
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flat earth maps, always shows them. I'll show I go
1995
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a flat earth mapp and supposedly these are all territories
1996
02:02:05.199 --> 02:02:07.680
outside of you know, this ice wall. But what was
1997
02:02:07.720 --> 02:02:11.239
weird was Brad Olson was on my show, but I'm
1998
02:02:11.279 --> 02:02:13.960
shure you show but when he should. He showed me
1999
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pictures of Antarctica and he said there's no ice wall.
2000
02:02:16.279 --> 02:02:19.560
But I don't I don't necessarily believe that completely because
2001
02:02:19.560 --> 02:02:22.039
I think Antarctica is so huge and Brad only probably
2002
02:02:22.079 --> 02:02:22.720
saw article.
2003
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Brad saw like a little each like a millimeter of Antarctica. Yeah.
2004
02:02:29.479 --> 02:02:31.359
Yeah, So do you think that there's something that could
2005
02:02:31.439 --> 02:02:33.680
be there like that, because I think it's weird that
2006
02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:36.119
there's a no flyover, right, you can't fly over it
2007
02:02:36.239 --> 02:02:36.840
or something like.
2008
02:02:36.800 --> 02:02:39.520
That, and that is that is true.
2009
02:02:39.520 --> 02:02:42.720
It's there's a certain parts that, uh, we're not allowed
2010
02:02:42.720 --> 02:02:45.640
to fly over as far as I know, there's some
2011
02:02:45.680 --> 02:02:51.159
sort of Atlantic treaty or something like that. But again,
2012
02:02:51.239 --> 02:02:55.479
this is one of those things that unless we have
2013
02:02:55.640 --> 02:02:59.039
someone that can physically go there themselves. That is not
2014
02:03:00.199 --> 02:03:03.880
controlled opposition in any kind of way. We would never
2015
02:03:04.039 --> 02:03:07.239
We would never know, but you have to give some
2016
02:03:07.359 --> 02:03:12.319
credence to the stories like Admiral Bird's diary. I think
2017
02:03:12.359 --> 02:03:15.279
that there may be some levels of truth to this.
2018
02:03:15.439 --> 02:03:20.039
Whether it was altered anytime after it was written, I
2019
02:03:20.079 --> 02:03:23.920
couldn't tell you, but I think that there has to
2020
02:03:23.960 --> 02:03:28.000
be some level of truth when it comes to the
2021
02:03:28.239 --> 02:03:33.760
technology that the Nazis had access to and were utilizing.
2022
02:03:34.199 --> 02:03:38.119
Whether it was from extraterrestrials or they just had some
2023
02:03:38.920 --> 02:03:45.439
brilliant aerospace engineers that were developing this stuff. I leaned
2024
02:03:45.439 --> 02:03:49.920
towards more it was probably channeled from other intelligences.
2025
02:03:50.920 --> 02:03:53.600
That they were able to.
2026
02:03:52.920 --> 02:03:56.800
Reverse engineer and create some of this exotic technology. Now,
2027
02:03:57.119 --> 02:04:00.000
I can't say for sure that Admiral Bird encountered Alas
2028
02:04:00.600 --> 02:04:03.880
or other beings at the entrance of the North Pole,
2029
02:04:03.960 --> 02:04:08.359
but the possibility that it encountered some sort of exotic
2030
02:04:08.479 --> 02:04:12.640
tech that was remnants from the Nazi regime is feasible,
2031
02:04:12.760 --> 02:04:13.720
especially when.
2032
02:04:13.520 --> 02:04:16.680
You see the UFO.
2033
02:04:17.760 --> 02:04:21.479
Invasion type scenario that occurred shortly after that over the
2034
02:04:21.520 --> 02:04:26.560
White House, which is very interesting. So yeah, right, it's
2035
02:04:26.720 --> 02:04:32.239
it's all something that it seems like we get bits
2036
02:04:32.279 --> 02:04:36.079
and pieces of information that lead us to only have
2037
02:04:36.279 --> 02:04:40.880
more questions about everything, and this is constantly occurring throughout
2038
02:04:40.880 --> 02:04:42.359
our lives.
2039
02:04:43.000 --> 02:04:45.439
Yeah, I know, it's insane. I wonder if we'll ever know,
2040
02:04:45.800 --> 02:04:47.880
we'll ever know if there's like what's in the hallow Earth?
2041
02:04:47.960 --> 02:04:49.960
Like I'd love the nets another thing, like, because what
2042
02:04:50.359 --> 02:04:52.319
was strange about the Admiral birth thing is there's the
2043
02:04:52.399 --> 02:04:56.359
whole Nazi side of the Admiral birth thing. Then there's
2044
02:04:56.399 --> 02:04:59.520
another story of Admiral Bird where supposedly he went the
2045
02:04:59.600 --> 02:05:02.079
Hall Earth and he encountered some kind of beings like
2046
02:05:02.399 --> 02:05:04.119
so I don't know what he was doing, like, but
2047
02:05:04.199 --> 02:05:07.119
maybe he did all that, maybe he encountered Nazis and
2048
02:05:07.159 --> 02:05:09.760
then he went to whole Earth too, or you know,
2049
02:05:09.840 --> 02:05:13.159
he was definitely an Antarctica, So who knows, right, But
2050
02:05:13.199 --> 02:05:16.359
I mean, i'd love to know if there was a
2051
02:05:16.399 --> 02:05:18.600
what's what's in and on Earth? I'm fascinated with it.
2052
02:05:18.680 --> 02:05:20.600
I remember there was this guy that came on art
2053
02:05:20.600 --> 02:05:23.399
Bell back in the day. His name was Dallas Thompson,
2054
02:05:23.439 --> 02:05:25.319
and what he was going to do is he had
2055
02:05:25.359 --> 02:05:28.600
this like like many helicopter type vehicle and he was
2056
02:05:28.640 --> 02:05:30.840
going to use it to fly into the whole Earth.
2057
02:05:31.159 --> 02:05:33.520
He was trying to get like sponsorship money on the
2058
02:05:33.640 --> 02:05:36.560
Art Bell Show about it never worked out. But because
2059
02:05:36.600 --> 02:05:38.399
I tried to fall up to see if he ever
2060
02:05:38.600 --> 02:05:40.239
did an excursion to whole Earth.
2061
02:05:40.039 --> 02:05:42.239
And never these things never handled out.
2062
02:05:42.319 --> 02:05:46.640
Man, there there, Brad's been trying to organize another expedition.
2063
02:05:46.760 --> 02:05:50.800
I know other people who attempt after attempt, tried to
2064
02:05:50.800 --> 02:05:54.399
go to places like Antarctica and are never able to
2065
02:05:54.439 --> 02:05:58.199
make it through different various red tape reasons or whatever.
2066
02:05:58.279 --> 02:06:00.920
But I don't know, man, And there's a lot of
2067
02:06:00.960 --> 02:06:02.399
mysteries that's around that.
2068
02:06:03.079 --> 02:06:03.239
Now.
2069
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I want to go back to what we're experiencing now
2070
02:06:06.439 --> 02:06:09.399
in this period of time, and depending who you talk to,
2071
02:06:10.199 --> 02:06:15.399
this is the worst time period we're in. That we're
2072
02:06:15.439 --> 02:06:20.880
in the apocalypse and it's all falling apart and everything
2073
02:06:21.039 --> 02:06:24.359
is doom and gloom. And I asked the question, is
2074
02:06:24.359 --> 02:06:28.520
it really can we look back fifty one hundred two
2075
02:06:28.600 --> 02:06:33.479
hundred one thousand years and honestly say that things were
2076
02:06:33.680 --> 02:06:35.159
better then?
2077
02:06:35.920 --> 02:06:40.279
I mean, are we still actively.
2078
02:06:41.439 --> 02:06:45.800
Just going around killing people for their land? And I'm
2079
02:06:45.800 --> 02:06:48.359
not talking about our military, of course, our military and
2080
02:06:48.399 --> 02:06:52.720
our governments do that, but you're normal everyday people. We
2081
02:06:52.760 --> 02:06:56.319
are a little bit more civilized than that. We are
2082
02:06:56.319 --> 02:07:01.880
not conquering countries, we are not torturing people anymore on
2083
02:07:01.920 --> 02:07:09.560
a regular basis. We have a greater level of understanding
2084
02:07:09.800 --> 02:07:14.119
and compassion than we did hundreds of years ago. So
2085
02:07:14.319 --> 02:07:18.840
there is a level of humanity that is evolving to
2086
02:07:19.000 --> 02:07:19.920
a better place.
2087
02:07:20.479 --> 02:07:20.760
Now.
2088
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I'm not gonna say that things are perfect or wonderful,
2089
02:07:23.359 --> 02:07:25.560
because we've got a lot of work to do, But
2090
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what we're seeing is the darkness coming out, and it's
2091
02:07:28.960 --> 02:07:31.640
always been there, we just haven't paid attention to it.
2092
02:07:32.039 --> 02:07:36.520
We've been happy in our own little matrix boxes that
2093
02:07:36.560 --> 02:07:38.960
they provided for us. I look back at the eighties
2094
02:07:39.000 --> 02:07:41.840
and nineties, and there was really no cares in the
2095
02:07:41.880 --> 02:07:45.199
world besides what I was gonna be watching on TV
2096
02:07:45.359 --> 02:07:48.319
that day or what I was gonna wear to work
2097
02:07:48.359 --> 02:07:52.199
the next day. Really, so you look back and it
2098
02:07:52.319 --> 02:07:56.199
was a simpler time. Now we're worried about arcons and
2099
02:07:56.239 --> 02:08:00.359
the matrix folding in on itself, and World War three
2100
02:08:00.520 --> 02:08:05.600
and pandemics and plagues and all these things are manufactured.
2101
02:08:06.479 --> 02:08:11.039
They're all created out of the imaginations of the lizard people.
2102
02:08:11.439 --> 02:08:14.960
To make us think that things are worse than ever.
2103
02:08:15.359 --> 02:08:18.479
But if you just step outside, go walk around and
2104
02:08:18.520 --> 02:08:21.520
talk to your neighbors, go for a hike, none of
2105
02:08:21.560 --> 02:08:26.039
that shit exists out there. It's all manufactured to get
2106
02:08:26.119 --> 02:08:30.039
us to believe that we are in this apocalyptic state
2107
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and the world is ending and we have to turn
2108
02:08:33.279 --> 02:08:36.439
to the globalists and lizard people to save us because
2109
02:08:36.479 --> 02:08:39.319
they're the only ones that can do that. We're just
2110
02:08:39.800 --> 02:08:43.079
mindless monkeys. We can't do anything for ourselves. We have
2111
02:08:43.119 --> 02:08:46.960
to rely on them. But in reality, this period of
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time is about us coming into our own and cutting
2113
02:08:52.840 --> 02:08:58.880
off our reliance to those dark forces that constantly feed
2114
02:08:59.000 --> 02:09:02.159
our fear and everything that keeps us where we are
2115
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right now. So I repeat, this is a very special time.
2116
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And the more that we can come out of that
2117
02:09:09.560 --> 02:09:13.680
grip of fear and the concern for anything in this
2118
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material realm that doesn't serve us, the better things are
2119
02:09:17.880 --> 02:09:19.000
gonna get collectively.
2120
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And it's happening.
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It may not be happening at the speed that some
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of y'all wanted to, but it's happening, and I have
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02:09:25.039 --> 02:09:25.640
hope for it.
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What do you think I was gonna say?
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Do you think there's a place where we can exist
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with like technology and embrace technology, but at the same
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time be like, spiritual and like And we'll think about it.
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If our friends were computer programmers that had the knowledge
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to the an ability that some of the best mainstream
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02:09:49.760 --> 02:09:52.119
programmers in control of this technology.
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02:09:52.159 --> 02:09:54.600
Now, if we could get our people in there.
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To reteach ai, to reprogram all the things that don't
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02:10:00.159 --> 02:10:03.319
service because most of the technology we interact with now
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02:10:03.439 --> 02:10:06.239
does not serve humanity at all.
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02:10:06.960 --> 02:10:08.479
It is for the.
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02:10:08.520 --> 02:10:12.039
Glory and to bring power and wealth to those that
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02:10:12.119 --> 02:10:15.439
are already in power and wealth, and keep us stupid
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02:10:15.800 --> 02:10:21.159
as fuck, to keep us confused and buried in information
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02:10:21.319 --> 02:10:23.960
that does not serve us. So if we could take
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over technology, imagine what we could do. We could have
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02:10:26.760 --> 02:10:30.319
those med beds, we could have all these things, the
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02:10:30.399 --> 02:10:36.520
instantaneous travel, we could have healing modalities. We could be
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02:10:36.680 --> 02:10:42.000
able to understand aspects of ourselves in the universe that
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02:10:42.079 --> 02:10:45.239
are kept from us through technology right now, So, I
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02:10:45.319 --> 02:10:49.079
do believe that technology is there for the right side
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02:10:49.119 --> 02:10:51.640
to horn us and we could do amazing things with it.
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02:10:51.640 --> 02:10:53.880
It's just it's in the in the hands of some
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02:10:53.920 --> 02:10:55.000
shitty people right now.
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02:10:56.560 --> 02:10:59.760
I agree I agree. There's one guy. I'm sure you
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02:11:00.199 --> 02:11:02.840
kind of had him on your shot. I mean, his
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02:11:02.920 --> 02:11:06.239
name's Tom Palladino. He's working with pre post scalar energy.
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02:11:06.640 --> 02:11:07.920
I think there's some promise to that.
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02:11:08.000 --> 02:11:11.199
It seems like, you know, all of this, the quantum realms,
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02:11:11.319 --> 02:11:17.319
the the frequencies, sound healing, sound modalities, all of this
2155
02:11:17.520 --> 02:11:21.920
is keys to our future. It's keys to unlocking what
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02:11:23.239 --> 02:11:27.279
these energies and intelligences and everything that surrounds us that
2157
02:11:27.359 --> 02:11:31.960
we can't perceive, I believe is sound, frequency and vibration.
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02:11:32.359 --> 02:11:35.399
And this is the key to zero point energy as well.
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02:11:35.479 --> 02:11:37.840
And where there's people that are starting to see it, man,
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02:11:38.239 --> 02:11:41.119
I think it's already out there. That's why we don't
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02:11:41.159 --> 02:11:44.680
hear as much about people being off for presenting some
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02:11:44.800 --> 02:11:47.800
of this information. I mean, Terrence Howard was just on
2163
02:11:48.039 --> 02:11:50.399
Rogan talking about this stuff. And I know a lot
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02:11:50.399 --> 02:11:53.680
of y'all are hating on Terrence for whatever reason. I
2165
02:11:53.720 --> 02:11:56.359
don't I don't even understand the reasons some of y'all
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02:11:56.359 --> 02:11:59.359
are given for hating on this man and his information.
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02:11:59.520 --> 02:12:00.399
But that's okay.
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02:12:01.119 --> 02:12:04.720
We each have our own ideas and understandings. But I
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02:12:04.760 --> 02:12:08.680
think that there's something to what he's saying, and that
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02:12:08.720 --> 02:12:10.760
we each, each and every one of us have a
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02:12:10.800 --> 02:12:13.319
piece of this cosmic puzzle that we got to bring
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02:12:13.359 --> 02:12:15.920
to the table. We just got to start presenting it
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02:12:16.239 --> 02:12:20.960
and stop blocking off each other's ideas and understandings and
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just start coming together.
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02:12:22.159 --> 02:12:26.760
Like you said earlier, Yeah, because I think like it's
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02:12:26.800 --> 02:12:29.680
like you said, we're in a mass awakening. I heard
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02:12:29.760 --> 02:12:32.239
you talk about this, and I've witnessed it too from
2178
02:12:32.279 --> 02:12:34.079
my show. Like the people that are coming on, it's
2179
02:12:34.119 --> 02:12:37.199
like people are becoming psychic, people are becoming hearers the
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02:12:37.279 --> 02:12:40.680
veil standing. People are just experimented with plan medicine. People
2181
02:12:40.680 --> 02:12:44.199
are you know, starting to work outside that's normal twenty
2182
02:12:44.199 --> 02:12:47.520
four to seven matrix, you know, type of reality. You know,
2183
02:12:48.119 --> 02:12:52.319
people are having more et experiences or you know, interdimensional experience,
2184
02:12:52.399 --> 02:12:54.760
astro experiences, whatever you want to call it. People are
2185
02:12:54.800 --> 02:12:57.239
having UFOs fly above their how I mean, like it
2186
02:12:57.279 --> 02:12:59.800
seems like it's all happening and it seems like it
2187
02:13:00.239 --> 02:13:03.039
meant to be now or something like there's like this is,
2188
02:13:03.199 --> 02:13:05.880
like you said, a special time on Earth. You know,
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02:13:05.960 --> 02:13:09.039
it's it's really like it's if you look back twenty years,
2190
02:13:09.079 --> 02:13:10.960
it was not it was no, and I were near
2191
02:13:11.039 --> 02:13:14.399
like this. I got the stuff that Art Bell was covering,
2192
02:13:14.439 --> 02:13:17.279
which is like, I know, things kind of progress over time,
2193
02:13:17.319 --> 02:13:20.439
but I still think there's something more special, Like things
2194
02:13:20.439 --> 02:13:23.680
have like really ramped up over the past twenty years.
2195
02:13:23.720 --> 02:13:27.000
It seems like, you know, like the paranormal and all that.
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02:13:27.359 --> 02:13:31.920
I think we are in the apocalypse, just not the
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02:13:31.960 --> 02:13:37.159
biblical understanding of it. It's just an unveiling of the
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02:13:37.239 --> 02:13:43.760
realities and everything that lies beyond our perception. Even the
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02:13:44.560 --> 02:13:48.039
darkest of what we face on a daily basis that
2200
02:13:48.079 --> 02:13:51.000
we didn't even realize ten years ago is just being
2201
02:13:51.039 --> 02:13:53.800
shown to us. It was always there. All this stuff
2202
02:13:54.079 --> 02:13:57.960
has always been there. We're just realizing it now. We're
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02:13:58.000 --> 02:14:01.479
becoming aware of it more and more. And it's like
2204
02:14:01.520 --> 02:14:05.159
I said, I think the more darkness we become aware of,
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02:14:05.319 --> 02:14:09.359
it's gonna be difficult for people to navigate through it.
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02:14:09.439 --> 02:14:12.039
But like I said, you just have to have that
2207
02:14:12.159 --> 02:14:16.119
faith in that there's something on the other side. There's
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02:14:16.159 --> 02:14:20.199
something guiding us all to this place where we can
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02:14:20.880 --> 02:14:25.399
exit the quote unquote matrix, and like Ola says, we
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02:14:25.439 --> 02:14:29.079
can get rid of those old gods that have us
2211
02:14:29.159 --> 02:14:32.479
trapped in these old materialistic ways of thinking. I think
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02:14:32.479 --> 02:14:35.000
it's a new error we're coming into.
2213
02:14:35.680 --> 02:14:38.000
I like that. I like that a lot well, But
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02:14:38.079 --> 02:14:39.680
real quick, before we go, I was gonna say to
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02:14:39.720 --> 02:14:41.560
Get did you want to I wanted to ask you
2216
02:14:41.600 --> 02:14:44.199
about your wedding. I saw the pictures on basebook. It
2217
02:14:44.239 --> 02:14:46.960
was an amazing day. I saw you were with Brandon
2218
02:14:47.520 --> 02:14:49.680
with your beautiful wife, and then you were with Brandon
2219
02:14:50.079 --> 02:14:54.239
from Expanding Reality, and I think Stephen from BG casts
2220
02:14:54.279 --> 02:14:56.600
and some other friends, can you talk about it?
2221
02:14:56.680 --> 02:14:56.880
Really?
2222
02:14:56.920 --> 02:14:59.000
It just seems like it was really it was.
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02:14:59.159 --> 02:14:59.520
It was.
2224
02:15:00.079 --> 02:15:04.119
We didn't want to have in any way your ordinary wedding,
2225
02:15:04.199 --> 02:15:06.600
so we decided to go to the top of a
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02:15:06.680 --> 02:15:11.319
mountain in wilderness, invite some of our closest friends, and
2227
02:15:12.279 --> 02:15:15.720
have a beautiful ceremony in the river with our feet
2228
02:15:15.720 --> 02:15:20.000
in the river, and the wonderful Brandon Thomas officiated. We
2229
02:15:20.119 --> 02:15:24.800
had Ken Schwartz, CEO of C sixty out there, Steven
2230
02:15:24.920 --> 02:15:29.680
from BG cast, Corey Hughes, Oh, there was a few
2231
02:15:29.720 --> 02:15:33.279
others that I'm probably not able to recall right now,
2232
02:15:33.279 --> 02:15:38.079
but it was a wonderful experience. All of Jennifer's wonderful
2233
02:15:38.119 --> 02:15:43.239
friends and family were there, and we ended with a
2234
02:15:43.319 --> 02:15:50.239
ceremonial plant medicine psilocybin tea experience that about eight people
2235
02:15:51.079 --> 02:15:54.319
had wonderful realizations and it was a it was a
2236
02:15:54.319 --> 02:15:55.840
beautiful experience overall.
2237
02:15:56.159 --> 02:16:01.319
That's awesome. That's really cool. Wow, that's really cool. Now
2238
02:16:01.399 --> 02:16:04.640
I just gotta say, like, how do you make the
2239
02:16:04.640 --> 02:16:07.840
psilocybin tea? Like I gotta try this, Like is it
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do you just extract the mushroom from them?
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02:16:11.800 --> 02:16:14.640
I just grind up the mushrooms and a coffee grinder.
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02:16:15.399 --> 02:16:18.439
Then I put them in a little I don't know
2243
02:16:18.479 --> 02:16:20.680
what it's called, these little balls you put your tea
2244
02:16:20.680 --> 02:16:22.039
and I don't know, tea balls.
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02:16:22.680 --> 02:16:25.479
Someone's gonna yell at me. Is it like a tea bag? Yeah,
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02:16:25.600 --> 02:16:25.880
kind of.
2247
02:16:25.920 --> 02:16:28.039
But it's a little middle mesh ball that you put
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02:16:28.039 --> 02:16:30.479
it in. I put up my grind ground up mushrooms
2249
02:16:30.479 --> 02:16:33.319
in that and I put.
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02:16:33.120 --> 02:16:33.959
The water to boil.
2251
02:16:34.840 --> 02:16:38.159
After it's boiling, I throw I use like a half
2252
02:16:38.239 --> 02:16:40.840
ounce in like about six cups of water this time,
2253
02:16:40.879 --> 02:16:42.040
so it's super potent.
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02:16:43.440 --> 02:16:43.799
Yeah.
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02:16:43.840 --> 02:16:46.319
So I let the water boil.
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02:16:46.319 --> 02:16:48.360
And you just turn the water off, put a lid
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02:16:48.399 --> 02:16:51.879
on it, and steep it for about fifteen minutes. Fifteen
2258
02:16:51.879 --> 02:16:54.920
minutes or so and then add your sugars or flavorings and.
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02:16:56.440 --> 02:16:57.120
Blast off.
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02:17:00.000 --> 02:17:02.799
Oh that's amazing, man. I wish jurams were legal here
2261
02:17:02.799 --> 02:17:05.639
in Pennsylvania. There's still there's still I think it's only
2262
02:17:05.719 --> 02:17:07.959
medical use only, so I have to have people give
2263
02:17:07.959 --> 02:17:10.479
me them illegally or whatever. But I mean, I still
2264
02:17:10.479 --> 02:17:13.239
take the chance because like it's it's it's I feel
2265
02:17:13.280 --> 02:17:14.760
like it should be legal, you know what I mean,
2266
02:17:14.799 --> 02:17:17.399
it's it's it should be. It should be legal everywhere,
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02:17:17.799 --> 02:17:18.000
you know.
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02:17:18.319 --> 02:17:20.559
And I think this is another one of those hidden
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02:17:20.680 --> 02:17:21.559
hand things.
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02:17:21.680 --> 02:17:24.879
Man. I think that there's plant medicines out.
2271
02:17:24.760 --> 02:17:29.200
There that are the cheat codes to the matrix that
2272
02:17:29.399 --> 02:17:32.559
help you see through certain things and become aware and
2273
02:17:32.639 --> 02:17:36.680
heal yourself in certain ways. And one of these is psilocybin.
2274
02:17:37.200 --> 02:17:41.079
I believe that marijuana is another one. It strengthens your
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02:17:41.200 --> 02:17:43.920
connection to source. And these things were placed here for
2276
02:17:44.040 --> 02:17:47.399
us to discover and utilize. And because of the special
2277
02:17:47.479 --> 02:17:50.280
time we're in, I think that it's being utilized more
2278
02:17:50.719 --> 02:17:54.639
and it's being brought to light more into the collective
2279
02:17:54.680 --> 02:17:58.360
consciousness awareness and people are starting to utilize it, at
2280
02:17:58.440 --> 02:18:00.879
least those who are called to youize it. And it
2281
02:18:00.959 --> 02:18:05.600
is helping with these collective realizations of what's really going on.
2282
02:18:07.520 --> 02:18:10.719
Yeah. Yeah, I remember every time I've taken psilocybin and
2283
02:18:10.799 --> 02:18:13.639
it's made me feel more emotional in a good way
2284
02:18:13.680 --> 02:18:17.000
where it's made me more sincere, more caring, more, it
2285
02:18:17.040 --> 02:18:19.200
makes me realize more of what I'm doing. It makes
2286
02:18:19.239 --> 02:18:21.440
me take a step back and be like, Okay, let
2287
02:18:21.520 --> 02:18:24.680
me analyze the situation. And you know, I believe they
2288
02:18:24.680 --> 02:18:27.719
can be used for like close state like creative endeavors too,
2289
02:18:27.799 --> 02:18:29.479
you know, where that you can really hone in on
2290
02:18:29.520 --> 02:18:32.799
a project, like I've taken them before podcasts, you know,
2291
02:18:32.959 --> 02:18:35.520
and like I've been found not huge doses, more like
2292
02:18:35.559 --> 02:18:38.799
microdoses and just just to be more aware and stuff.
2293
02:18:38.840 --> 02:18:41.479
And they they're amazing. I feel like they have so
2294
02:18:41.520 --> 02:18:42.799
many benefits, you know, und.
2295
02:18:43.120 --> 02:18:49.799
Man, Yes, And the amount of people who are not
2296
02:18:49.840 --> 02:18:54.520
only utilizing things like plant medicines, but meditation and just
2297
02:18:54.600 --> 02:18:58.760
having a spiritual awareness overall is an amazing thing right now.
2298
02:18:58.760 --> 02:19:01.760
And I'm very encouraged by all of it. And I
2299
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think we just got to keep going, man, I think
2300
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we're headed in the right direction. We just have to
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keep it going, especially with.
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What you and me are doing.
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People in this space, bringing information and not just doom
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scrolling to the table I think is a very important
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and essential job that we have to do right now.
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So Robert, thank you so much. This was awesome. Before
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we close out, remind everybody how they can find typical
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Skeptic and all your content.
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YouTube all right for right now at YouTube. I don't
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know how that one that's going to last. Rumble and
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Audio and a little bit on rock on rocking, but
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more Rumble audio, I would say, following me on Rumble
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and Audio, that's the best place, you know. And thanks Chris,
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it's always I love these conversations.
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