Throwback: Dicky Barrett - Musician (The Mighty Mighty BossToneS / The Defiant) [Episode 400]

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Hey, Street Walkers. This is a throwback episode with Mighty
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Mighty Bostons, front man and founding member of The Defiant,
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Dicky Barrett. Dicky first appeared as a guest for the
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four hundredth episode, which aired on February twenty six, twenty
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twenty four. It was such a compelling and fun episode
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I decided that it needed to be revisited, So enjoy
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this throwback episode. Tell a friend and thanks for listening.
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Hello.
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My name is Dicky Barrett. I've been the Mighty Mighty
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Bostons and I'm in a band called The Defiance. And
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you're listening to Fascination Street with my good good friend Steve.
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Yea damp was being visual down the most interests street
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in the world with my voice, Deed, Fascination Street already know.
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Let's get it when you wait for the fastest street brief.
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Welcome back, Street Walkers. This is the four hundredth episode
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of Fascination Street podcast and this week's guest is the
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Godfather of Skyhore, founding member and former frontman for the
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Mighty Mighty boss Tones, now founding member and frontman for
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the new band The Defiant, Dickie Barrett.
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Welcome to Fascination Street Podcast. Dicky Barrett. What's up, dude?
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How are you? Steve?
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I am freaking fantastic. Ask me why?
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I thought you were going to ask the questions, but
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I'll ask you why are you freaking fantastic?
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But I'm getting to talk to you.
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Dude.
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Oh You're legend. Do some actually call you the godfather
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of sca.
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Godfather of SCO Corp. It's more specific than SKA.
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Oh look at you correcting your own nickname.
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I know, I.
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Made up my own nickname.
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What's the difference between Scott and SCO Corp?
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Sco Core is something that we invented. Scot is something
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that we were inspired by and influenced by, and something
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that we loved as kids. And when I say well,
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I am talking about the mighty Mighty Bostones. Me and my
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friends were just super SKA enthusiasts. Loved it. Personally. I
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first fell in love with the second wave of it,
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the English Stuff, Madness, Bad Manners, the Specials, the Selector,
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English Beat. I always hate forgetting some of those bands,
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but on the great great bands of the English movement
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in like nineteen seventy seven, and then from there I
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fell in love with the Jamaican stuff of the sixties,
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maybe even the fifties. But we were also Boston punk
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rockers and hardcore kids, so we had that influence as well.
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And then when we started making music, people needed to know,
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you know, what do you call your music? What is this?
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And we just said, well, it's Bostones music, and that
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didn't satisfy anybody. So then we called it skycore, and
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we named one of our records Scocore the Devil and more.
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Then it became actually a gendre of music, and other
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people started saying, we're a skycore band too, And at
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that point, you know, I said, well, I'm going to
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call myself the godfather of skycore.
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So you gave yourself that nickname? Yeah, but why not.
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I'm not shy about that either, because I don't really
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think anybody else would want that nickname.
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I don't know, it's pretty sick.
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Thank you, dude, You're welcome.
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Did you also name the Mighty Body Bostones?
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Probably, but we I think we were fishing. I didn't
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name the Mighty Mighty part. I think I called it
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the Bosstones. And we had a bunch of other less
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cool names that we were floating around, and you know,
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it's very difficult to name a band, and I think
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we got lucky with the Mighty Bindy Bostones and it
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ended up being that. But at first we were going
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around town, we were calling ourselves the Bostones, and then
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we made a record and we were putting it out
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and then someone said, you know, there's another band that
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was called the Bostones.
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It was spelled different, though, was it. Yeah, it's Boss,
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that's what we are. No, your Boss two s's No.
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We're bos t Yeah. Oh really was it? I'm sorry?
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Yeah, the Boston's that confused. The do op group from
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the Philadelphia they're Boss.
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They're from Philadelphia. Yeah, they're not even from Boston.
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Nah, that's what I understand.
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Oh the Boss Tones I got. So you've completely confused me.
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Now that's what I do into confusion street.
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Somebody was calling us the Mighty Mighty Bostones, this guy
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who tended buy at our favorite watering hole. And you know,
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in order to avoid the confusion, had I known that
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spelling thing, we would have never been the Mighty Mighty Bostones.
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They just heard someone else was called the Bostones.
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I could have used you Oh yeah, Well maybe there
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was some other group that I'm unaware of. So you
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have a huge, eclectic career. It goes all over the place.
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It goes into music, it goes into announcing. You do
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all kinds of crazy stuff. Oh real quick, how many
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Vans Warped Tour shows did you, guys play?
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I couldn't tell you the number of shows we did,
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but I think about four tours actual tours. Then you
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got to count to Australia and that was a separate tour,
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so maybe five. Oh rad, I'll call Kevin.
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You won't. How do you think that doing those Vans
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Warped tours help you get your name out because that's
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where I first heard of you.
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I think think we had some success before going on
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the Vans Warped Tours, and that's probably why they asked
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us to be on the Vans warp Tours. But we'd
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love doing it. We love being a part of it,
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we love being considered one of the Vans tour bands.
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I think it was an excellent thing to do and
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a great way to spend the summer. If you're in
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a skycore band, like I am sure and was at
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the time.
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I have a couple of questions about growing up in Boston.
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One growing up on Queensberry Street. What was it like
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to actually get to play? As you say, Finway Pack.
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It's interesting that you know that. What did you do
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look at the map? How did you know it was
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so close?
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Magic? I'm a stalker. I should rename the show Stalker
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cast as I sucked the shit out of you.
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You do excellent research.
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Oh I'm not even halfway there yet. Bro, You're gonna
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love me amazing.
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But I lived on Queensberry Street. The Boston on Toxic
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Toast is actually about living on Queensberry Street. I live
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in an apartment with legendary skateboarder who's no longer with us,
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Jake Phelps, who was actually the editor and the main
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guy at Thrasher magazine for many many years, and he
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was my first roommate. Me, him and a guy named
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Andrew Brady lived in apartment kind of squatted an apartment
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on Queensberry Street in Boston in a very crazy and
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fun time in both the history of Boston and my life.
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And we were punks, so sports fans weren't all that
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thrilled with us as we skateboarded through the area, But
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I was also grew up an enormous Red Sox fan.
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My father loved the Red Sox, as did I, and
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me and my brother had been to many games in
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my lifetime growing up, and so to eventually be able
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to play there it was absolute thrill. Steve, it was great.
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We did it twice. I think that I'm sure about you.
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We did it twice.
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Did you pinch yourself both times where You're like, I
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can't believe I'm here.
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You know, privately? Half the time I'd walk around like, oh,
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I'm supposed to be here, but you know, if I
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stopped for a second, I would go, there's no way
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you're supposed to be here, and you know you're on
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the field. Some other kind of Red Sox things happened
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during the course of being in the Mighty Mighty Boston's,
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Like in the season opener, I think in the year
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two thousand, could have been two thousand and two. They
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asked us to premiere a video there, and the day
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before I went to Fenway Park and they gave me
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a uniform and I walked around in the park in
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a uniform and introduced the song. So they were filming
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footage of me all of a sudden. So the next
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day I came up on the jumbotront and go, you know,
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welcome to Opening Day and the Red Sox. I'm Dicky Barrett.
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I'm actually like came out of the dugout. So people
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were like, oh, who's this guy? And then oh shit,
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the team looks horrible. This year, people realized it's a thrill.
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You know, any time you're involved with something like that,
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it's pretty special and exceptional.
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Speaking of pretty special and exceptional, if I understand correctly,
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the very first show that you played with a band,
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you opened up for the Misfits.
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The very first Yeah, yes, how did that happen? Okay,
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it's a good question. I was in a hardcore band
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called Impact Unit four kids, part of the Boston hardcore
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music scene. The guy named Sam played the bass, and
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a guy named Ross played guitar, and a girl named
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Julie played the drums, and then I was the singer
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and we were gosh, it's I think seventeen years old
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in high school, and you know, there's only so many
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Boston hardcore bands. There was five or six, and then
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the Misfits were coming to town. It's a legend. It
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was a legendary show. They actually came to town and filmed
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a video the day before in Boston and you can
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look it up. The video was called Brain Eaters, and
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one of the members or two of the members of
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the Impact Unit were in that video, but I was
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at high school the day before, so I couldn't be
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in it. Along with members of other hardcore bands like
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SSD and Dys and the Fus, they were in that
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video as well with the Misfits. So the next day,
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following the video shoot that I wasn't able to be
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in because of damn high school, we opened up for
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the Misfits at a club called The Channel.
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And what did that do for you? I mean, I
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know that it probably gave you a big boost, and
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it didn't do a whole lot for Impact Unit, But
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did I give you a confidence that you didn't previously have?
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I mean, you're already seventeen, I mean only seventeen, You're
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in high school still, and you're opening up for one
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of the greatest punk bands ever.
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That you don't put in you you don't know. I
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mean now we know it was just the Misfits. You
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know this is great band. We had their records and
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we loved them, and they're coming to town. But you're
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sort of focusing on what you're going to do and
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what you know. So when you're allotted this time and
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when they say go, you go on stage, and you know,
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so there's so many places to be inside your head
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that kind of going, oh my god, I'm opening for
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the Misfits, this sort of takes a back seat at
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that time, and if you do get all up in
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your head about that, then you're never going to do it.
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I was more thinking, like I had these songs. We
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spend a lot of time in the practice space playing
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these thirty five second songs, you know, and then you go, well,
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I'm going to do this. I'm going to jump off
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the stage or I'm going to you know, so you
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don't even know. You sort of kind of trying to
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develop yourself and imagine how you're going to be as
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a seventeen year old kid. That's fun, and that, to me,
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was what I was interested in. I wasn't really much
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of an athlete, and I wasn't killing it when it
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came to grades. So and I loved music and I
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loved punk rock, and I was a part of something
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and allowed to be a part of something, and I
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held that very near and dear to my heart, and
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it was very special to me, you know. And here's
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my chance get the hell on stage. And when I
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do it, I hope I'm good. And I don't know
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if I was or not, and I don't care. But
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I remember thinking, you know, five hundred years ago, when
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that show was over and I was talking to the
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other three people that were in that band, it was like,
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that was awesome. That went well.
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Dickie fucking Barrett. I hope that's your real middle name.
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Disappointed it's Michael.
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No, not anymore. I just changed it Dickie fucking bar It.
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The first name might not even be my real name.
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Why do you call yourself Dickie.
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I want to know that.
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That's like I didn't call myself Dicky. I had two
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uncles named Richard on both sides. On my mother's side,
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her brother Richard, he was called dick when he was little.
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He was a Catholic priest. And then on my father's side,
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his brother was named Richard and he was called Dickie
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two and he was a firefighter. I was named after them.
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I was born in sixty four, so we're talking growing
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up sixties and seventies in Boston, you know. So it's
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very Irish place, and it's very kind of Irish name,
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and I was never super fond of it, but I
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could never really escape it either, that makes sense. And
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I don't have any real love for Richard, although I
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I guess now I like it better. But at this point,
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what are you gonna do? Yeah?
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Right, it's been a minute. Me on this side. My
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dad's name is Steve. Yeah, my name is Steve. My
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brother's name is Steve. Come on, and my son his
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name is Steve.
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Why are you and your brother have the same name?
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Different moms?
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Okay, that is a narcissist.
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My sister her name is Stephanie.
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Oh my gosh.
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All right, we're gonna talk about you.
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No, I got more questions on this, all right?
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What you got?
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Okay? So Steve is your father? Always been in San Antonio.
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He was born in Lubbock, but basically he joined the
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military and he did boot camp in Santonio and then
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stayed in San Antonio until he was probably fifty three
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or something, and then he moved to you know where
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the Florabama is. Yeah, yeah, he lives by that so
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he lives like on the border of Florida and Alabama now.
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And Steve's still with us, Steve the first.
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Yeah, he's only he's only a couple of years older
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than you.
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Man, How old are you?
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I will be fifty in May.
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Okay, seems about right.
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But we're not here to talk about me.
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Dude.
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Come on, when did you know you could sing? You
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have a very distinctive, gravelly voice.
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Steve, I can't sing.
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No, that's bullshit. You know when did you know.
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When it comes to real singers, when it comes to
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real singing, if what Frank Sinatra did was singing, then
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what I do is, you know, a million miles away
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from it. I never really thought I could. I was
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able to. I was part of choir and stuff like
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that in school and you know, traveling choir, and I
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was selected to sing. But it was mostly my confidence
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and I'll do it and I'm not all that afraid
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to do it. So that led me to it when
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I realized I wanted to be in a band and
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I could be in a band once punk grock came around,
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and before that, I didn't imagine for the life of me.
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When I would look at or listen to Queen or
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Pink Floyd or bands like that before punk entered my life,
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and I didn't look at Freddy Mercury and go oh,
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I can do that. But when I found the Ramones
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and I fell in love with the English punk bands,
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and I said, well, I think I could do that.
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And I loved writing too. I loved writing poetry, lyrics
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and songs and that sort of thing, and still being
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realistic and not going I'm a wonderful singer. I thought
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I had a unique and different and original voice, and
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I thought no one could sing my lyrics the way
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I could. I was confident that way, but I've always
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shied away from calming myself a singer.
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God bother you own, but singer you don't. That's funny.
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I'm a very strange and unique sort of narcissist.
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Sweet. This is probably the last bizarre question out of Boston.
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None of the questions. And actually they're very good, and
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actually you're very good at doing this.
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Oh my gosh, Dicky Barrett, Thank you, so fucking Barrett,
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Thank you so much. Okay, so this might be a
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wild hairing, but it is my understanding that in the
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mid eighties there was a band in Boston called the Oysters. Yes,
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and they had an album called Green Eggs Dam, which,
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if I understand correctly, you drew the cover art for.
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It was a Tang record. Those are friends. Oysters were
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members of another band called Stranglehold and sort of fractioned off.
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Then another band became the Oysters, and I didn't I
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was proud of that cover. But I also drew the
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cover for and it wasn't a Tang record, but it
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may have ended up being a Tang record. It was
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for a band called Dys I drew their cover. I
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have some illustration skills and I went to a community
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college to help develop them, and I love you know.
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I draw with my children.
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Now.
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I draw out probably more than I've ever really been
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able to throughout my life. But I'm holding a pencil
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right now. I'm always kind of sketching on things or
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draw on things, And so yes, I did do that.
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Tang Records was the first record label that the Bostones
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were on, and it was owned by and still is
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owned by a guy named Curtis Cassella, and he was
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just a friend of ours and part of the punk
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rock scene. He went to Emerson College and was a
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disc jockey on WERS, the Emerson College radio station. Curtis
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had some money that his father gave him and he
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was like he was trying to figure out what he
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should do. And I can remember saying, you should start
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a label and he's like, yeah, I want to start
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a label that he named it Tang. Then he started
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signing some of our friends and people that we hung
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out with and putting out records for them. And then
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I talked him into putting out the Bostones very first record,
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and he did that and it could probably be his
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biggest seller. But he put out Lemonhead's records later. He
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had a lot of pretty decent Boston centric vans, both
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hardcore and sort of poppier stuff later on. But yes,
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I know you were asking about that Oyster's cover, but
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I did do it.
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Why did you stop doing album covers?
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I didn't stop, you know. I still consider myself to
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be the guy that's designed the Bostones records, even though
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I employed other artists. When I went to the community college,
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the guy that was in charge of the whole art
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program said you'd be an excellent art director, and I think,
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you know, my skills are very stylistic. I consider my
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drawing and my artistic ability to be the same as
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my singing. It's very sort of dialed in, and this
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is what it is. And you know, now with the
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Instagram and the Internet and everything, you see other artists
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and you know they're much better. The guy that designed
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the album cover for my band, the Defiant, and his
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name's Yosef, and he calls himself Yo Yo Yosef. He's tremendous,
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tremendous artist, and his ability and his skills are credible.
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So you know, he's some one of the artists that
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I really really appreciate.
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The cover art for the Defiant album is beautiful. It's
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imaginative and it's gorgeous.
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It came out of my head, but Joseph's hand.
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So hey, just like this, so my artwork. I designed it,
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but I can't draw for shit, so I had somebody
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else put it together for me. Right, So me too.
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And by the way, I want to say, you are
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a terrible, terrible at being a narcissist. You called yourself
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a narcissist at the beginning, but you're like, oh, I
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don't do this well and I don't do that well.
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I called your father a narcissist too, Steve. I don't
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know this is a podcast, but I apologize, Steve the.
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Let's get back into it.
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Okay, so when did you become a wordsmith? Like, when
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did you know that you could write lyrics?
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That was early on and that I'll brag about. I
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think that I'm very good at putting words together. I
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started writing poetry in junior high with an interest in
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lyrics because I loved rock and roll. I loved bands
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like the Jay Giles Band was one of my all
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time favorite bands as a kid. They were from the
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area where I grew up. But I just I love lyrics,
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and when I met people who didn't, like, you know,
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I'd say, oh, these words are so great, and they're like, oh,
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what are they saying. I'm like, and we're both enjoying
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the same song, and like, as someone who's I'm not
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really into lyrics, like that to me, my head goes, WHOA,
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how can you love rock and roll and not be
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into lyrics? Or I can love popular music or music.
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I mean, that's what they're trying to say. And I,
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you know, I do have an appreciation for the music
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that surrounds it. But I was always a lyrics guy.
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So I was writing these poems. And then there was
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a teacher at my junior high an English teacher. His
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name was mister Powell, and he came in from the
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city I lived in, a bedroom community and suburban town
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of Norwood, Massachusetts is where I grew up. He came
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in from Boston, from the city, and he was like
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the basketball coach, but he was also an English teacher,
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but he wasn't my English teacher. And he found out
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that I was writing poetry and my English teacher shared
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poems that he had written and stuff. He just took
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an interest in me. Handed me a stack of these
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blue Field notebooks and said he filled these with poems,
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and I did. I started writing them. He was just
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a great guy and he's still with us. And you know,
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for years people would come to my shows and say, oh,
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you know I have mister Powell. He read your like
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my poems are part of his curriculum. If you took
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mister Powell's Englis class and all of a sudden you
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were studying the poems of Dicky Barrett, which then you
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know he would add my lyrics to into the course,
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which I was. I was always kind of proud of that,
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you know, very proud of that, and glad that I
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met that guy. I never slept on that to this day.
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When I write lyrics, they go they're never truly done
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until it's been released, and even then I'm like, oh,
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I wish I said this. But I would study and
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now with my phone, you know, writing in the notes,
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but you know I used to do it with one
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of these stif and meticulously write him and you'd finish
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and you go, oh, I just finished writing all these lyrics,
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but this line could be better. Write it over. It's
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my passion.
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It is, well, you're good at your passion. I'll say
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that you are passionate about your passion and it comes across.
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Your lyrics are dope as hell. Thank you, Mighty Mighty Bostones.
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My all time favorite mrighty Mighty Bosstones song is where
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Did You Go?
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It's an early one.
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I love that song so much I had to buy
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new speakers in my car when that song came out.
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That song tells an entire story in whatever it is,
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three and a half minutes, whatever the length of that
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song is, it tells such a great story, like from
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beginning to end, and the way you wrote it, mister lyricist,
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mister wordsmith, I could imagine myself in that situation, mostly
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because I had just been in that situation. It was
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one of those things where it was that right time
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in my life where it hit me at the moment
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that I could transfer the meaning of that song onto
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what was going on in my life, which I'm sure
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people do all the time, But is there a thing
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that you wrote that song about? That song about a
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specific event.
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Yes, I came home, she wasn't there. I waited for
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her to be there. You know, time went on the
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course of the night, sort of realized what was going down,
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but tried not to really think about it, and then
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forced myself to deal with the reality that I had
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been left. And then I went to Joe's house Joe Gettles,
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Joe Gittleman. By the break of day, I went there,
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and then that's where I lived.
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How long after that event until you wrote that song?
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Did you go over to Joe's house and then write
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the song?
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Not that long after? I mean, I knew I was
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looking back on it. I wasn't writing it in real time.
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I didn't document it as I went down, which it
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kind of sounds like it kind.
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Of does very plotting, like methodical, like it's very timely.
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Yeah. I did like the fact that I did this,
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then I did this, then I did this, then I
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did this. It really sounds like a guy losing his mind.
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And then some of the stuff I was like, why
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did you do that. It's like, don't ask me what
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I did. I just did the And I wrote the
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song with Nate, the original Bostons guitar player, who had
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a real kind of feel for the rhythm of the
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lyrics and didn't want to compromise that with you know,
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anything that was overly melodic.
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I have a super selfish question to ask you, and
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you could say no, and that's fine. Can I play
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where did you go in this episode?
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Oh? Yeah, shit?
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Would you introduce it like your radio dj?
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I was a radio DJ.
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I know That's why I said it.
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For those of you who haven't bailed. This is the
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Mighty Mighty Bostones from the album more noise than other disturbances.
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This is a song Where did You Got Me?
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And I got home and realized I was on sap wher.
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I was by the window wondering wedding. You can come you.
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Nayo sleep Metal took the pictures off the places time
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was showing them, wondering wedded to go white, to go
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where you go?
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I want to know? So long clock till it.
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Little winter bed and took a shower stead at tvfore
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and I was in the tashes made the bed of
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Redder book.
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I've never read ten minutes you will showing them on
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the written Where did you go? Where did you go?
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Wedge go?
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I want to know.
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Where did you go? Where did you go? Where did
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you go? Where did you go?
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I don't want to appreage.
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I'll laughed married lad until I couldn't And then it's
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me wedding when I wonder if been wedded?
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Just do it?
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Shrunk on my from the accidents, older, my little after
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years I lost until I went not right, I was
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wed inside, called.
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The friend which she skinness?
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What didn't nothing?
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Tour head.
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I'm houlding there until I coum sat on the co
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drink and stop wondering.
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Why did you know?
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I realized I couldn't stay brat my things in a way,
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in a way, Where did you go?
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Where did you go?
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I want to know?
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Yeah, that's my all time favorite Mine Bosstone song. Now
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Miny Mighty Bostones did have a song and appeared in
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the film Clueless. Yes, I know why you did it.
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00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.720
Who's basically for tax reasons? But what did being in
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the movie and on the sound track do for the
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Bostones overall?
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It's difficult to measure that like when you asked me
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these questions, and it's tough to say, you know, when
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you asked me about the warp toorn what you get
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from it, but you don't know, you know, because other
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things are going on at the same time. So I
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think it gave us more notoriety.
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You know.
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I was petrified about doing it and wasn't all that
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into it, you know, didn't like the premise when presented
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to me at the time, but I did like the
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person who made the movie, Amy Heckerling, made Fast Times
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at Ridgemont High and then she made Clueless, so I
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sort of trusted that. But you know, when someone said, oh,
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it's about bitterver Lily Hills High school kids, they're very
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well off, and I was like, ah, I'm a dude
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from Boston, you know, so it felt like it wasn't
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where I should But then when all was said and done,
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it's sort of a legendary, historical sort of film that
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kind of chronicles that particular time in the mid nineties
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very well. And I think that to this day, you know.
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I mean, my daughters are sort of think it's cool
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that I was in that movie, although they haven't seen
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it yet. But you know, friends and people at this school,
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and it was like, you know, your father's in clueless.
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I was at Joey's who plays on guitar for The Defiant.
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His name is Joe Loroka, and I was at his
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house not that long ago. I was staying over. We
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were playing down in southern California with the Aquabats, and
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his daughter came home from a party she was at.
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It was a movie party. She was like thrilled, and
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I'm there and then she's like, oh my god, I
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wish I knew you were coming here. It could have
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invited you to this party. We watched Cluless, you know,
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and I was like, oh, hey, all right, you know,
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so it's still hip with the kids that movie. So
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it keeps me kind of cool. Love it. Did you
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like that movie, Steve?
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I did, But this is gonna sound so weird. I
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liked it for all of the reasons that were not
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the girls of the film. I liked the interaction that
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all the dudes in the film had, Like I think
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Donald Faison from Scrubs, I think he was.
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In that movie.
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Yeah, right, it was you know, sort of the time
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and place of that whole thing. I enjoyed it. It
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00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.839
was a good film. Right, is a time cap Oh
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for sure? Time capsule And like you said, it's it's
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kind of a historical film in I guess pop culture. Right,
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00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.519
it's a touchstone for sure. Yes, we're gonna talk about
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The Defiant. Okay, that's what I'm here for. Oh sweet well,
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I'm here for it. The mighty mighty Bosstones. You and
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00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.759
them partied ways for reasons that we're not really going
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to get into. But let's just say that the song
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where did Lady Liberty Go? That song if you want
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to listen to that song, guys, it's on the new
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album by The Defiant, Where Did Lady Libertygo? That kind
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of explains how the Defiant got formed.
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Yeah, in my opinion, speaking of time capsules, and I
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think it's a song that I sort of wrote regarding
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what was going on at the time twenty twenty twenty
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twenty one, you know, when everything really went down to
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sort of the ground zero of COVID, you know, with
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the right in the sweet spot, where people were making
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decisions and making choices and doing things that were unusual,
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unorthodox and very very of the time. So I tried
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to sort of in poetry, in rhyme, and in song,
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write my recollection and convey the events. And I did
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it in my typical fashion where it's like, you know,
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what does he mean? This could mean this, but it
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could also mean this. And I had a lot of
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fun writing that song.
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I'm sure you did. The Defiant consists of Dicky Barrett
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formerly of the Mighty Mighty Boss Tones, Johnny Rue am
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I saying that right.
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Rue, You're real close. It's Rio Rio.
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Okay, sorry, Johnny Rio from Street Dogs, Pete Pirata from
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The Offspring Saves the Day at Line Trio, a bunch
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of other stuff, Greg Camp from smash Mouth, and Joe Loroco.
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What's Joel Loroca from?
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I call him Joel Loroca and have been calling him
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Joe Loroca, but his name is Joel Loroka. And Joel
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Loroca is in a Los Angeles street punk band that
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did quite well and still plays to this day called
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The Briggs.
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The Briggs okay for again reasons that are basically explained
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in Where Did Lady Liberty Go? All of the members
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of The Defiant have separated from the bands that they're
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known for because basically, events that transpired during COVID right ish.
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That is not true, Steve, Oh hit me, No disrespect
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or offense taken. Sure, of course, you know, any question
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you want to ask me, I have no problem answering
630
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.079
those questions. And I appreciate you being polite and trying
631
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.680
to tiptoe around things that you might feel that I'm
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00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.720
sensitive about. But at this point I'm willing to discuss
633
00:33:58.079 --> 00:33:58.799
anything you want.
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All right, do it, lay it out, come with it,
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00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:04.480
get bare bones with me.
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00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:06.799
All right, dude, here it is. You're gonna get it all.
637
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:07.160
No.
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00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.760
Joey still performed The Briggs is his band and still
639
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performs with the Briggs. Greg hasn't been in smash Mouth
640
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.679
in many years, but he's the guy that you know
641
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:20.000
wrote the songs you're most familiar with for smash Mouth.
642
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.679
And Pete left the Offspring because, you know, the offspring
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insisted that he get a COVID shot and his doctor
644
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told him, whatever you do, Pete, don't get a COVID shot.
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And then the offspring said, well, you got to get
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a COVID shot, and Pete said, but my doctor said,
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and then the offspring said, we don't give a shit
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what you doctor said, and then they ceremoniously drummed him
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00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:46.559
out of his drumming position as drummer of the Offspring band,
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or should I say unceremoniously. You know the story, and
651
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Pete tells it much better than I do. Is kind
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of a real sad one, you know, because he's a great,
653
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great guy in it and exceptional drummer, one of the
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best out there working today. But you know, he really
655
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.960
kind of didn't deserve that and was blindsided by management
656
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of that band that were super insensitive, and then the
657
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:15.039
members themselves sort of took the side of management and
658
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.280
just let him go like that. And he considered himself
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good friends with those guys, and you know, he uses
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the word family, and his family and their families were
661
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all close, and I'm not sure I'd think it was
662
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like fifteen years maybe more as their drummer. And then
663
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in my case, i'd said early on and I told
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the band that I felt like the way things are
665
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.079
going that we're all going to be forced to get
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COVID shots in order to continue in this band, and
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I said, I won't be doing that. To their credit,
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they said, well, you know, you're out of your mind,
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and you know, don't worry about it. That's a crazy
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thing to say because they couldn't really get their brains
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around you know, who is going to tell us and why?
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You know how that's going to happen. But sure enough,
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as time went by, it seemed pretty mandatory and come
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00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.079
he's like Live Nation were saying, you know, you can't
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00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:05.480
play this venue, and then countries were saying you can't
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tour here or come here and to the country. As
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you remember, and everybody knows, it was a crazy time.
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But I had made that decision. I didn't want to
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be involved in any of that, and I felt that
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that was my decision. At the time. I was also
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the announcer on Jimmy Kimmel Alive. That show and its
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parent company, Disney said all people working for anything Disney
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have to get this COVID shot. And I had told
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my friend and my boss that I wasn't going to
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do that, and he did all he could to beat me,
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00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:40.800
but there was only so much, according to him, that
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he could do, and then I was let go. And
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00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.400
then I also was simultaneously kind of working with Robert F.
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Kennedy Junior, who was battling hard, you know, any kind
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of mandatory of mandates, and he had a rally in
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d C No Mandates Rally and asked me if I
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would recreate a song that was originally recorded and written
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by Graham Nash of Crosby Stills, Nash and Young. So
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we did a parody of one of his songs, but
695
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:12.760
it was a you know, protest song used to protest
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00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:18.159
the vaccine mandates that were looming and on the horizon,
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which ultimately didn't happen, but a great deal of damage
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00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.039
was done by the threat of the looming mandates. So
699
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.920
when I created that song, it got a lot of attention,
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00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:35.760
including Rolling Stone wrote about this song and rally that
701
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Bobby was involved in in DC, and it didn't sit
702
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:44.199
well with certain members of the band I had been
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00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:49.599
in for many years, and against my own wishes, founding
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00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:53.360
members didn't want to continue as the mighty Mighty Bosstones
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with me now publicly sort of the punk rock face
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00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:02.000
of all things, you know, Antivas, which was just sort
707
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:04.880
of happened to me. But I don't regret it. You know,
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00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.719
I believe what I believe, and I believe my beliefs
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are true and strong, and at the very least I
710
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.079
think I should be able to have them, and so
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that's that story, Steve.
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So you lost your band and you lost your announcing
713
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.400
gig with Jimmy Kime alive because of your beliefs. Do
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00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:24.440
you think it was worth it?
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There's a lot of things I didn't lose, Steve. I
716
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:31.440
didn't lose my integrity, but you know that happened, and
717
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.199
they made choices that said, with you being somehow the
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00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.280
poster child of all of this, we didn't sign on
719
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:41.360
for that. And I understand that, and at that time
720
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there was a lot of great unknown And I do
721
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that because I felt like I knew what the deal
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00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:50.559
was and what was happening. But I can't say the
723
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.599
same thing for a lot of other people.
724
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:53.679
But that is what it was.
725
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:55.719
What was the question, Steve, was it worth it?
726
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.480
Well, that's a see you are good at this. That's
727
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.719
a great question. I wish none of this ever happened.
728
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.840
I wish that it didn't exist. The divisiveness and the
729
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.360
division that seemed to be the main goal and the
730
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:11.880
main objective and the actual agenda was to divide us
731
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.239
all in a way. And I had so many things
732
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.920
politically and fracture everybody and pull us apart. So I
733
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:21.320
wish that that didn't go down. I love making music
734
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.880
with the Defiance. I loved making music with the Bosstones.
735
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.039
Financially it sucks. Announcing was easy and fun, and I
736
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.320
enjoyed being part of that. I did that for twenty years.
737
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.039
So the answer that would be yes and no. Yes,
738
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:40.599
I wouldn't have done anything differently. Personally, all I believed
739
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.440
was I should be able to make my own choices,
740
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.719
and I was allowing other people to make their choices.
741
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.199
I wasn't going to stand in anybody's way. I have
742
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.280
my own opinions on that, but that wasn't a two
743
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.599
way street. The way it worked was we're going to
744
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.920
make our choices and we're going to make your choices.
745
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:58.519
And that didn't seem right to me.
746
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.440
It's not very punk, I agree with you. It's not
747
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.199
very punk rock to make your choices for you.
748
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.079
To me, it's not very punk rock. When the government
749
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:10.400
says this is what we're doing, and this is what
750
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:13.559
you have to do, and here put this in your body,
751
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:15.679
take this, and then you go, wait a minute, what
752
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.159
and they go no. You don't even ask questions, you
753
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:21.559
just do it, and then you go why and then
754
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.239
they go shut up. You know, don't ask that question.
755
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.519
Be quiet, Dicky, you're out of line. Just take this,
756
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.360
and then you go, what about My friend Pete is doctor.
757
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:33.760
You know he's had an adverse reaction to these sort
758
00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:36.000
of shots in the past, and it's shut up. He's
759
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:39.199
got to take it too. So yes, I mean to me,
760
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.280
it felt like when we named a record question the
761
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.920
answers and songs like question Authority, it seemed like that's
762
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.119
what we were supposed to do and that none of
763
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:51.159
that happened. You know, it felt like, Okay, now's the
764
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.519
time it's on. We've been in punk rock training all
765
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.599
of our lives. The government is telling us to do that.
766
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:01.000
And then I turn around and everybody's listening and saying,
767
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:03.920
you know, quiet down, Dickie. We're listening to the government.
768
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:07.280
They're telling us something, and we can't we can't miss
769
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:08.159
the instructions.
770
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:11.119
Yeah. I think punk rock was created as an anti
771
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:12.719
establishment pushback.
772
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.360
Yeah. I always thought it was you know, funck you
773
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.800
first and at least ask some questions.
774
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.000
Hey, street walkers, here's a word from our sponsors.
775
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:28.639
Let's get back into it.
776
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.320
Is there a scenario where Mighty Might of Bostons get
777
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.400
a new singer and you guys are on the same bill.
778
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.440
I don't know here. Because of my narcissism, it's difficult
779
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:44.440
for me to imagine.
780
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:49.400
Sure is the Defiant gonna play the Hometown Throwdown in Boston?
781
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:55.039
The Wholetown Throwdown is the Bostones. That's our annual event.
782
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.360
That's our annual concert. So there's no Bostones, there'll be
783
00:41:58.440 --> 00:41:59.480
no throwdown.
784
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:03.559
All right. The Bosstones song Someday, I suppose is the
785
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:08.159
theme song for the Adam and Corolla Show. As as
786
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.840
it were, do you listen? Adam has been on the show.
787
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.400
Almost everybody who works for Adam has been on the show.
788
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:15.000
Drew's been on the show a couple of times.
789
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:16.920
You're telling Meds be fascinating.
790
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:19.519
Yeah, Adam was an episode one hundred.
791
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.719
Shit, I gotta do my Fascination Street research.
792
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.199
Oh yeah, you'd be blown away. I even got to
793
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.039
record an episode or two of Fascination Street in the
794
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.519
Adam Corolla studios. Sitting in Adam's chair.
795
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:37.480
Really Yeah, he's a guy that's like particular about his chair, Like, ah, right,
796
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:39.320
you're sitting in my chair. I saw on him the
797
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:39.760
other day.
798
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:41.920
By the way you see him all the time, I
799
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:45.280
would imagine you guys are pretty good friends Adam not enough.
800
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.440
Anymore because I live in Arizona now and he still
801
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:48.199
lives in Cali.
802
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:52.239
Yeah for now true, But yes, huge fan of that show.
803
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.440
I was there from day one when it turned into
804
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:57.199
a podcast. But I wanted to know when did he
805
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:00.400
ask you and how flattered were you when he said, Hey,
806
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:02.840
can I use your song as my theme song?
807
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:06.440
I think he started using it on the radio show
808
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.960
he had burst and just carried it on. He goes
809
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.719
in with Sunday I suppose, and then goes out with
810
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.079
Rascal King that's his outro song, and then he used
811
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:19.280
Rascal King and what the boxing movie he made? Super flatter.
812
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:21.679
But we've been friends before there was such a thing
813
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:25.559
as Sunday I Suppose a Rascal King. We became friends
814
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.880
early on in Boston's touring when he was just doing
815
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.239
characters on K Rock mister Burcham and calling in and
816
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:39.480
Jimmy was Jimmy the sports guy on k Rock at
817
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.360
the time, and we would come do k Rock events
818
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:46.719
and we met Adam and just became a pal very
819
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:50.119
very early on. But so, yeah, very flatter. Do you
820
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.599
listen to him and Drew their show? Yeah?
821
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:54.920
I listened to their show too. I love Drew. Drew's
822
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:55.599
been on twice.
823
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.039
Also, he's great. He is great.
824
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.639
Another previous guests of the show, who So what happens
825
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:06.440
to be the outgoing message on my personal voicemail Mike Dawson.
826
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.119
I know I'm looking at a picture of it right here,
827
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.800
Ian Dawson. Yeah, it's you in Dawson. Mike posted the
828
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:19.679
other day and I quote Dicky from the Bostones came
829
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:21.760
to the show tonight. Believe it or not. He was
830
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:23.840
one of the first friends I made when I moved
831
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.880
to la in aught six. Check out his new band,
832
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.519
The Defiant. Love This Dude, As you were, tell me
833
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.199
about being friends with Mike Dawson.
834
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:33.400
Love this Dude.
835
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:34.360
How did you guys meet?
836
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:36.760
I don't know that story, but my heart is definitely
837
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.159
warned by the fact that he holds me that dear.
838
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.400
I saw him do stand up comedy the other night
839
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:45.000
in Phoenix. He opened up for Adam and I don't
840
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.079
want to insult the guy, but I didn't think he
841
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:49.840
was going to be as good as he was. To
842
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.559
put it lightly, I think what he does with the
843
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:56.400
voices and really really good radio voice, and then he's
844
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.440
great at that. I'm lucky he didn't take my announcing
845
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.599
job Kimmel job from me because he's much better speaking
846
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.599
voice and voice than I have. I cann't say it.
847
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:10.199
Where we met, I was doing a radio in LA.
848
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:13.639
He had started working for Adam, doing all of the
849
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.599
stuff that he does for Adams to this day. He
850
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:21.719
was very very helpful about helping me be an on
851
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.920
air DJ, which I had no experience at that time.
852
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:28.960
That he's a pro. He's as good as they get.
853
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:31.639
Ben a good dude. What you see is what you get,
854
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:33.480
or what you hear is what you get. I got
855
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:36.000
to look that up. Maybe I should start following Dawson.
856
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.440
You probably should start following Dawson. It would be nice, right,
857
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:40.480
it'd be sweet.
858
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:41.079
It'd be sweet.
859
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:41.800
Yeah.
860
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.440
Everybody from Adam on down, everybody over at in the
861
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.480
Corolla universe has just walked on to me with open arms.
862
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:50.639
I have been to the studio a million times. Like
863
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.920
I said, I've recorded my show in his studio. Almost
864
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.639
everybody in that building has been on my show at
865
00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:59.760
least once, and they're all friendly, super super friendly.
866
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.440
So can I be a return guest? Is that possible?
867
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.320
I would one hundred percent love for you to be
868
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.360
a return guests. You can come on whenever you want.
869
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:11.079
Oh good, I'm glad. We would be like, well we'll talk, Dicky.
870
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:12.280
We'll talk off the air here.
871
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:12.760
You know.
872
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.760
No, no, no, no, no, You're awesome. I'll do anything
873
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.360
we do. You're rad as balls. I have just a
874
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.440
couple more questions and then I'll let you go until
875
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:26.039
next time, if that's okay, okay? Where can people find
876
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.119
you and find out more about the Defiant on social media?
877
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:35.480
Well, the Defiant official on Instagram? I know that for sure. Website,
878
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.039
we have all those things. You know. Maybe I should
879
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:39.519
have sent those to you in advance.
880
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:42.480
No, everybody can go search for it. I just wanted
881
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:43.519
to see if you knew.
882
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.960
The most difficult question I asked, Dicky. The one thing
883
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.519
you had trouble with is where are you currently? It's
884
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:53.920
also the most important. Shit.
885
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:56.800
Oh, since you just said the phrase where are you?
886
00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.400
I have another question for you. As we're going out,
887
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:02.360
Can I play Where Were You? Because that is my
888
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:04.280
favorite song off this new album.
889
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.079
What do you think would happen if you played without
890
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:07.639
asking me?
891
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:08.239
Well?
892
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.880
I think that well, A, you could talk some shit
893
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.039
about me. You could call the people who aren't your
894
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.480
friends anymore over at Rolling Stone and tell them to
895
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:16.519
give me a rash of shit.
896
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:18.400
I wouldn't.
897
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:21.119
I don't know. I could get a cease and desist,
898
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.199
but more importantly, I could piss you off, and I
899
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:23.880
don't want to do that.
900
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:26.320
People always say that to me. You know, we're going
901
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.719
to get a cease and desist. Okay, when I get
902
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:30.800
the cease and desist, you know what I'll do, I'll
903
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:31.880
cease and I'll desist.
904
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.400
You know, I care less about the cease and desist
905
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.400
and more about I don't want to piss you off.
906
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:38.800
That's not my intent at all.
907
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:41.840
That's sweet of you. You're a very sweet man for
908
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.119
saying that. But you but I can't imagine if you
909
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:47.360
played it it would be good for me. I think
910
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:49.840
so then people go, oh, you know, he spent the
911
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:55.079
last hour stammering and stuttering and shitty stories and I
912
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:59.199
tolerated that, but oh, that song was good. I think
913
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:00.519
that that would see me.
914
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:03.800
You're hilarious, guys. This is where were you off? The
915
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:06.119
new album by the Defiant what's the name of the album.
916
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.039
Dicky Alma's called it. We're really being honest.
917
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.599
If we're really being honest. That's a great name for
918
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:13.800
a debut album.
919
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:38.920
By the way, you can ask me how I am.
920
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.920
I know that you don't give a damn outs you.
921
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:47.760
I am better than nothing. I'll be out this rubbing bore.
922
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:50.480
Now ask me how I seem so sure. I'm sure
923
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:52.960
that that would end the discussion.
924
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:55.760
A review me.
925
00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:04.119
God, my goods. Everyone in as they're gonna cheating?
926
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:04.719
Worry?
927
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:13.480
Where tell when I did someone you were in tround?
928
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:18.079
Why was that you weren't? No way did by? When
929
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:19.159
I did it?
930
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:23.239
You boast? Tell me where it was that you were.
931
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:29.840
Now you're sitting now you don't Now I don't know
932
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:31.239
when I'm coming home?
933
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:36.119
Man, Hey, how did I look on television? If this
934
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.400
road is my only past, someone else can do.
935
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:43.000
The boy tired of the long division.
936
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:49.920
But when she does little quiet right, he's hoping.
937
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:54.559
Mat if my dead bride the future's.
938
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:55.039
Riding right.
939
00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:58.519
Alway?
940
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.400
Someone you wow?
941
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.480
You want to know where to be?
942
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:08.280
Fo way?
943
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.920
You most tell me where it was at.
944
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:19.159
You learn the sad when che go honestly were asking you,
945
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:27.679
But I know where where did check out?
946
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:48.400
Whatever?
947
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:51.800
Way? Tell way?
948
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:58.000
And I think that someone you were to WI you
949
00:50:58.280 --> 00:50:58.639
want to.
950
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:20.000
Know attitude, Dicky.
951
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:21.880
Is there anything we didn't talk about or I didn't
952
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.639
ask you about specifically that you wanted to talk about today?
953
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:26.599
Do I miss something? Did we cover everything?
954
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:31.039
Now? I really enjoyed talking to you. As I mentioned earlier,
955
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:33.199
I think you're really good at this. I'm now a fan.
956
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:35.400
I'm going to do two things when I hang up.
957
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:40.320
I'm going to start following Dawson. I'm going to go
958
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:43.519
to Spotify and put Fascination Street as one of my
959
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:45.719
must listen to podcasts.
960
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:47.000
I love it.
961
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:49.280
Thanks, buddy. I appreciate that. I'm coming up on four
962
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.159
hundred episodes, so you got a lot of catchen up
963
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:51.320
to do.
964
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:52.920
Number one.
965
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:55.400
I haven't decided yet. You might even be four hundred.
966
00:51:55.679 --> 00:52:00.960
Oh yeah, you can be four hundred, bo Thank you.
967
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.239
Episode number four hundred with Dicky Barrett. You know what
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I think I'm gonna do, Ah, I'll surprise you. I'm
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gonna I'm gonna surprise you with the intro. We'll see
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what happens.
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You want to use I'm absolutely fine with that. I
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respect and value your judgment, so have at it.
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You're sick, sick, sick man, and I love every bit
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of it the next time you guys are rolling through
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San Antonio or Austin. Yes, holler at a fat kid, dude.
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I will be there and I won't even wear bells.
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If you showed up with the friggin bells on, I
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would be bummed. Hey, thank you, Steve.
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It was one hundred percent my pleasure.
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Have a guy.
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Rest of your weekend, and thank you so much for
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doing this, dude. I appreciate it your legend. Bye bye, buddy,
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Thank you so much.
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Opening music is the song fsp theme, written, performed and
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provided by Ambush Vin.
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Closing music is from the song say My Name off
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the twenty twenty one album Underdog Anthems, used with permission
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from Jack's Olive. If you like the show, tell a friend,
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