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Hello, and welcome to season two, episode six of Expecto
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pod trona, a podcast dedicated to all things petronass.
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I'm your host, Stephanie, I'm Amy, I'm Lucy, and I'm Carolyn,
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and today we will be talking about the magpie and.
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The boys because this is patron So, a magpie is
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believed to be the most intelligent bird in the world,
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and it's related to crows and jays. So if it
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is related to crows, you know, it has to be
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pretty intelligent because crows themselves are intelligent birds. But that
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is information for a later episode. Most magpies are lumped
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under the scientific name pica pica. What there's stifficun is whatachew.
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I don't know, but I'm sorry.
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I have children with Pokemon. I did not know a
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magpie was a living Pokemon.
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Apparently, scientific name pika pika.
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My nine year old's gonna love that.
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But within that, there are several distinct variations that are
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considered their own species. So there's a lot of magpies
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out there, and I Am not going to list them all. However,
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if you love magpies and you want to know more
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about how many there are, I feel free to look
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that up yourselves. So the only kind of magpie that
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lives in the United Kingdom though, is the Eurasian magpie.
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This one has a black head with a white belly
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in sides, and then there's also blue on its wings,
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sides and tail. In bright light, it looks really pretty.
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It does.
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And I did not expect a magpie to look pretty
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because I know started magpies and I look terrifying and
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just no offense to the bagpie.
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Ugly.
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I was expecting like a pro or a pigeon or
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something like that when I originally heard magpie. So I'm
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really excited about how pretty it is. But if you
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look at it in super bright light, the blue feathers
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shimmer and shine, which I really loved. Is the idea
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for a patronis? I feel like it gives it an
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extra little magical Dutch. So they are omnivores. They eat grains,
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small mammals, bugs, and even carrion like vultures. The Eurasian
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magpies are homebodies. Studies in the UK found that most
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magpies build their own nests no more than eight hundred
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meters than the nests that they were born in. They're
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considered an incredibly intelligent bird, and their brain to body
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mass ratio is similar to that of great apes, meaning
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that they have a similar cognitive two great apes. So
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smart Bob, very smart bourb.
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We love a smart bourb b.
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Burber is the word. And then when they meet, they
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are monogamous, so they do meet for lengths.
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Oh, that makes so much sense with Fred and George,
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not that they're like mates, but you know that they're.
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Landed for life for each other's people.
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Yeah, So I'm just gonna bring a bit of Australian
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magpies into this conversation because this is how I always
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imagine the magpie, and it will make sense later on
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with my little note of I don't think this is
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spread and George's petronas So the Australian magpie is just
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all black and we're white as well in them, and
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during the spring they are very mean to people, especially
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they're like cyclists or pedestrians, Like we have signs up
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where magpie is normally mate and it's just like beware,
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it's swooping season's sweetness.
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And so just like everything else in Australia, even the
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magpies are out to get you.
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Oh, yeah, like if you want to look up, I'll
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send you, you guys, a little a little image.
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Swooping does sound like a bird that actually lives near
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like in Illinois where I'm from, it's called a red
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winged blackbird. And they are aggressive and territorial and total jerks.
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So this image shows what bicycle people have to wear
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during sleeping season.
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We really get out for art and crafted. Wait where
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did it go?
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Ah?
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What?
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Oh my god? Okay, yeah that is you guys have
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you guys have to.
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Put that on your helmet.
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Oh yeah, because otherwise this happens. So the first image
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is a helmet with well those zip ties tied rounds
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that make spikes, and then the next.
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Picture is of a magpie with a bicycle rider.
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You know, at least you've got a helmet on though,
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so like your head's protected.
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Yeah, and you want to also wear sunglasses because apparently
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sometimes they go for the eyes. Oh meanwhile, in Australia,
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in Australia, everything is still trying to kill you. Oh yeah,
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they're aggressfully territorial and they tried just to drive away
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frets and just.
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To keep their little little chicks safe in the nest.
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But anytime I walk past the magpie, it's like oh
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oh oh oh, head down, head down, walk or walk.
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Yeah, that sounds like whenever I see that there's this well,
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I've moved so now I don't know what the new
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track looks like that I live close to. But there
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was this track where we lived and we would go
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walk it and you had to be careful because that
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time of year, they would just start like swinging at
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you and trying to get you away because they thought
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you I'm like, I'm just walking. I swear, I swear.
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Now you know it's called swooping season. Yeah, they have
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a name for it. I'm going to tell my husband
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he'll love it.
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And another fun fact in Australia, in our Aussie rules
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so our shown Football league, we have a team called
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Collingwood and their nickname are the Magpies.
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Ah yeah, they're they're very I.
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Would say lives up to what the traits are of
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a Magpie.
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I'll just say that they're fan base.
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So when the season's about to begin, they should really
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like put up advertisements that say it's swooping season or
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just pictures a team.
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Literally, when you know there's a game happening, you're just like, okay,
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I'm just gonna avoid, especially if they lose.
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All right, So time for some folklore and mythology. So
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with magpies, they're probably most well known folklore is the
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counting of them. So if you've ever heard the one
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for sorrow, two for joy rhyme about magpies, This comes
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from an old English nursery rhyme dating back to at
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least seventeen eighty, but probably before then, because seventeen eighty
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is like the first time it was actually like written
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down recorded. There are a bunch of different versions of
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this rhyme, and it really varies by region. So version
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one I put two versions in here, but there's way
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more than two versions, but these are the two that
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I came across the most. So version one one for sorrow,
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two for joy, three for a girl, four for a boy,
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five for silver, six for gold, seven for a secret
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never to be told son.
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I need to say six together so I can get
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the gold.
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Yeah, exactly. So the idea is the number of magpie
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you see at once signifies different fortunes to be had.
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Later, I need all the fortune I can get at
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this point apart from the kids. I don't need the kids. No.
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Version two is much darker. One for sorrow, two for joy,
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three for a funeral, four for birth, five for heaven,
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six for hell, seven for the devil his own.
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Self Version one.
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R Yeah. So Version two is very similar to another
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thirteen version that I found that goes all the way
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to the number thirteen, and thirteen is being the one
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noting the devil his own self. That's supposed to mean that,
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like that those seven magpies is the devil basically in
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magpie for Yeah, so fun times nursery rhymes are always
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a little.
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I like version dark.
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Why do a nursery rhymes always to do with something dark?
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Like bring around the rosies to read? What was it down?
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The plague?
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The plague? He's like, I did not need to know that.
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Yeah, yeah, so this little rhyme actually is supposedly the
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reason why JK R said this patronis fits the Weasley.
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Twins, which one the fist vision of the second version,
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so very.
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Very specifically the one for sorrow, two for joy thing
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because two for joy yay friend George. One for sorrow,
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Oh no, sad one's gone, one's dead. Okay, yeah, so
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it's still a dark twist.
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I don't like that.
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That could be the only reason she picked it, because
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I do think there are more parallels, but okay.
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Yes, yeah, I think there's more like parallels and like
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the whole trickster kind of thing, which I know in
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a lot of legends and stuff, they're more like trickster
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type birds too, So yeah, yeah, so yay rhymes to
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move on to some other parts of the world. In
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ancient Rome, the magpie is associated with magic and fortune telling.
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In Scandinavian folklore, witches sometimes rode magpies or turned into them.
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In German culture, magpies were considered to be from the underworld.
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In Scottish folklore, the magpie is said to have a
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drop of the devil's blood on its tongue, so another
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tie to the devil. Lots of witchcraft and devil going
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on here. Outside of Europe, cultures seem to have a
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much more positive view of the magpie. So according to
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some Native American legends, magpies where friends to hunter gatherer tribes.
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I didn't look up specific stories, but I know I've
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heard some too where Like I said, they're more of
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like the trickster, kind of like prankster bird as well
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on some stories, so a little more lighthearted. In Korea,
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this bird is said to bring good news, and in
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China the magpie is seen as a symbol of good
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fortune and happiness.
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And lastly in Australia, especially in Western Australia, according to
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the Nouga dream time stories, the magpie also once the
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sky used to be closed close to the ground so
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the trees could not grow, people had to crawl, and
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all the birds were forced to walk everywhere. And according
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to their stories, the magpies worked together to manage to
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prop up the sky with sticks so that it wouldn't collapse.
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Again, that's so cute, that's fun.
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So again like using their cleverness all right.
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So onto some symbolism, which I think had some overlap
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with mythology. So Magpie teaches you how to master the
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art of persuasion while showing you how to avoid superficiality.
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The power and symbolism of communication are well within the
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Magpies' abilities, and I think this ties into their intelligence.
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They it said that they can even learn.
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A few human words.
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Wouldn't surprise me if that were true, but it in
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turn is said to represent different ways humans communicate and
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teaching a lesson that we should be careful what we say.
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Words are considered to have power, so magpies and seeing
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them stress the importance of balancing your self expression and
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idle talk. The magpie is an omen of good fortune.
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I think that ties in with the was it Korean yeah?
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Or good news yeah? And China, so that one tied
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in more with Asia. But another thing magpies kind of symbolize,
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which is, if you have plans on hold for whatever reason,
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a magpie or seeing one is supposed to be the
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universe telling you to go ahead and take that leap.
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Tying in with the riddle or the rhymes, the number
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of magpies changed the meanings. Eight would mean a coming delay,
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but nine could mean that love was on the horizon.
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I think that this was symbolism and symbology kind of
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trying to stretch the amount of things that that could cover,
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because not only did it mean possibly love on the horizon,
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but it could mean a celebration or a baby or
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lasting marital happiness.
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So lots of homer and.
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All bases covering all your faces. People, The one that
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I thought tied in really well, though, was magpies kind
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of meaning or symbolizing that life has two sides, so
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luck and prosperity or deception and fraud. They are known
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to be a lover of shiny things. I think we
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all kind of have that mental image of the magpie
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kind of collecting things, but this can also represent materialism
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and superficiality. Some it's more of like a symbol of
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a warning to not let appearances kind of distract you.
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And then the other thing that came up a lot
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was in dreams and to count how many you see?
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I think that also tied in with the nursery rhyme.
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And then they were talking about three as a sign
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of a birth of a girl and four for a boy,
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and six meaning wealth. So I think they liked version
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one two. When I was looking up the symbology.
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I think everybody likes Vision one.
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It is a lot happier, but so a lot of
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the symbolism I thought kind of was touched on before
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with other things, but it was a lot of like
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similar the importance of two sides of things, which you
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could also say is a little bit of the twins.
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They can be really humorous and joking around, But then
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they can turn around and make these things. I mean,
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weren't they making the shield hats that were like potago
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charms and selling them in the joke shop. So while
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something can be humorous to them, it can also have
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a practical side.
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So kind of that duality.
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So is this patronis right for Weasley Twins?
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Does this patronus fit the character it belongs to find
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out on the patronis is right?
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I think yes?
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And I think so because magpies are intelligent and resourceful.
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They even talk about that with the mimicking or the
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potential for mimicking human speech, Fred and George. You see
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it as early as book four when they're trying to
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test their products and sell them on the side, and
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Molly's all mad at them, like they have a goal
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in mind. They want to be successful, they want to
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build something, And I think that that kind of overlaps
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with the way magpies kind of seem determined to me.
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I mean, I don't think we said any of that
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in our breakdown of the animal, but that's just how
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they come up across.
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To me, is a very determined animal.
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Well, and like the liking shiny things thing like I
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don't really think like friend Fred and George are like
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very superficial, but they are flashy, like they like wearing
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those flashy suits that they get. Yeah, they're you know,
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a little out there, right, They're very like, yay, look
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at us.
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Look at the what they did when they left, right. Yeah,
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they're all about.
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The big you know, the big display. I guess, the
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wow factor. That's a good way to put it.
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Yeah.
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I like this for them too, honestly, so I.
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Don't Yeah, I don't have any issues with it what
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I and I put a note in here, but I
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was like, I wonder, what, given the importance of how
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many of them you see, what if multiple come out
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of the one when you're casting your patronis? And does
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that tie in in some capacity?
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I don't know.
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Does your patronis become like a way to predict the future?
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That's kind of where I was.
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It's a patron a new level of devnation.
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Yeah, I'm not sure Professor Tlani would love that another
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way to predict a student's death.
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Like I said before, I don't like that that this
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is friend George's battonis again because I only really pictured
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the Australian magpie.
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But yeah, because they're just very mean during mating season.
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But I guess that's normal for birds, Like they're very protective,
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which I can sort of see friend George being.
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But I always thought that their patronus was a fox.
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I like it being fox.
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I thought they would just be more they're a bit
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more sneaky as foxes where this is, Yeah, I just
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don't like them being magpies.
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So if you take out the Australian imaging where it's
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not that mad pie, can you see it fitting in
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other ways or can you just not? Like Nope, that
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is the main pic. I cannot get over it. That
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is what it is.
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Yeah, that is just the magpie seed.
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Like I tried thinking of like maybe it could be
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the UK version, like, but it's like even that, I
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was like, I don't know if it really fits them either.
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I don't know, there's something about it being a magpie
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just like no.
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So it sounds like we need to present some different
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options to Lucy for what friend and Joe who's petronas.
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I think because like from the beginning, I always thought
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it was a fox, and even before doing this, I
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thought they were foxes and then when they when I
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got told they were magpies, I believe, like collating, whose
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patancis we know? I'm was like, no, for me, there
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always been foxes. And I think that's fan fiction's problem.
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Yeah, yeah, I think we have time to squeeze in
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a quick bonus segment of whose patronis is in any way?
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Which character could fit this patronus? Find out on whose
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patronas is it anyway?
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Yes, we did have some ideas for who else could
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possibly have a magpie patronis My first thought going off
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of how intelligent magpies are and it's a bird, so
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I thought about, Okay, what raven claw could this fit?
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And I kind of like this for Choe better than
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a swan. She's clearly super smart. I like the parallel
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of the folklore to do with witches riding magpies. Choe
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plays quidditch and rides a broom to fly. Magpies are
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misunderstood and misinterpreted in folklore, and I've always kind of
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felt like Choe kind of got a raw deal because
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we see her through the lens of Harry's point of view,
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and he's, you know, kind of delivious and oblivious and
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totally insensitive because he's Harry. Yeah, so I like the
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magpie for Chow. That's my vote.
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So regardless of what bird we give Chow, Lucy hates it.
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She has an issue with Swan's attactor. She has an
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issue with Magpie Favor attacked her.
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See.
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I think the problem is the Australian wildlife.
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I've never been attacked by a magpie. Yeah.
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I feel like just between the football team and what
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they do during the mating season's like not a good
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combo down here. Yeah, we can just blame it on
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this stray and wildlife like they're out to get you somehow.
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We're still alive.
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Yes, just get for the shark episode, everybody, it's gonna
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I'm gonna with some facts.
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We do have a shark episode. I figured. I was like,
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we have a shark.
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We do because I was like.
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Why isn't it whale. That's a separate episode, and that's
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a valid question for that episode.
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Whale would be too big coming out of your wind.
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I was just throwing out the obvious, ridiculous answer, like
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imagine if a stick, right, what comeing out those are?
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That's true, that's true, very good point. We do not
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know what kind of shark.
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I mean, most of these animals are not small, So
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except for the jaunty little fellows.
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Except John Fellows, Jack.
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Jaunty little fellow.
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When you.
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Fellow too big that logic.
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Does that mean a magpie is a John?
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I mean, but they are not.
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If you can picture a cartoon version of them wearing
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a top hat and carrying a walking stick, they are,
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in fact a jaunty little fellow.
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I can, but it's gonna look like a weird grass
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between Woody the woodpecker and a magpie. So I was
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reading Amy's suggestion and then it of.
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Course, okay, hear me out.
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It made me think of Lockhart, and the reason I
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think of Lockhart. He is blindly followed and adored by women,
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mostly because of his looks, and the symbology suggests that
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magpies are a warning of falling for appearances. He's materialistic
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and superficial and proven to be a fraud over the
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course of the book.
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So in my.
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Mind, if it is his patronis, and that would only
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be because it's a warning to everyone else run away.
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I feel like Lucy will like this one because I
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think she wants the magpie to be for a character
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she does not.
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Like exactly, So there you go. So I like this one.
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I knew it. We could have said the Magpie would
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be better for Balatrex than Fred and George and Lucy
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would be.
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Like yeah, no, not for.
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Yeah, Balatis is an interesting character. Actually like her character.
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It's very interesting.
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But lock out and like, nah, you're like always on
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the same levels, umbradge.
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Yeah, this this only works as a like warning. I
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don't think of this as like, I don't associate magpies
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with frauds.
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Tricks maybe, but not frauds. So I don't know.
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I'm not mad at it. I kind of like it.
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Don't tell me this season, I'm actually getting my act
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together and you guys are gonna like my crazy suggestions.
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Episodes I have.
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And this is the first time you've had a valid okay,
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hear me out that has kind of come from left field.
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The other ones make a lot of sense, like this
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is the first one that you had to like.
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Actually I had to sell you, but I sold you see,
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But that's my point.
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I sold you. This is not good. This is the
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wrong precedent. I got to go back to crazy.
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Well, I didn't think of my next one because I
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just randomly put one down and this is just purely
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bised on the poll.
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I think Lucy's gonna take my spot. As the crazy said, yes,
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so you got.
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I don't know, Like I just literally just popped in
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my head because I was like, oh, this could be
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Molly Weasley just based on the two poems.
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I was like, I don't know if I like that.
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If you don't, if you don't like it. For her sons,
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I am giving it to their mother.
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Well mainly because I'm just thinking she is. She is
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a smart woman, give her that. But like how the
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amount of the amount of magpie you see relates to
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something in the poem. I was like, oh, yeah, force
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four represents all the birth she's had. She she had
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to go to a lot of funerals, like she did
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lose a lot of members of her family, one for
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the sorrow of losing her son, two for all the
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joy she had is having kids. And yeah, I think
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some of them were just like anyway, but yeah, that's
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just my left field.
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I was like, maybe maybe.
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Somewhere in the air abyss this the poem could relate
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to Molly, because you know, the author did say the
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Twins related to the poem so true true, that's as
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far as my head got.
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I feel like that should be an entire episode on
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its own, analyzing the poem, figuring out if it applies
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to Molly Weasley, that that can be the next chaos
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chat Over on Patreon.
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I'll suggest that I don't go, oh this, and I
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will have like we'll have the white board up like
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with all the lakes.
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Sting everywhere.
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I love it. All Right, Well, I think that about
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wraps up this episode. You can join us next week
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when we talk about the connection between Twins and Patrona
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says to segue right from Fred and George into the
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Twins episode.
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Of course I planned it that way.
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And remember a piece of chocolate to day. We'll keep
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Hello, and welcome to season two, episode six of Expecto
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pod trona, a podcast dedicated to all things petronass.
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I'm your host, Stephanie, I'm Amy, I'm Lucy, and I'm Carolyn,
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and today we will be talking about the magpie and.
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The boys because this is patron So, a magpie is
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believed to be the most intelligent bird in the world,
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and it's related to crows and jays. So if it
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is related to crows, you know, it has to be
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pretty intelligent because crows themselves are intelligent birds. But that
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is information for a later episode. Most magpies are lumped
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under the scientific name pica pica. What there's stifficun is whatachew.
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I don't know, but I'm sorry.
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I have children with Pokemon. I did not know a
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magpie was a living Pokemon.
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Apparently, scientific name pika pika.
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My nine year old's gonna love that.
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But within that, there are several distinct variations that are
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considered their own species. So there's a lot of magpies
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out there, and I Am not going to list them all. However,
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if you love magpies and you want to know more
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about how many there are, I feel free to look
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that up yourselves. So the only kind of magpie that
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lives in the United Kingdom though, is the Eurasian magpie.
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This one has a black head with a white belly
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in sides, and then there's also blue on its wings,
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sides and tail. In bright light, it looks really pretty.
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because I know started magpies and I look terrifying and
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just no offense to the bagpie.
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Ugly.
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something like that when I originally heard magpie. So I'm
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really excited about how pretty it is. But if you
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look at it in super bright light, the blue feathers
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shimmer and shine, which I really loved. Is the idea
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for a patronis? I feel like it gives it an
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extra little magical Dutch. So they are omnivores. They eat grains,
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small mammals, bugs, and even carrion like vultures. The Eurasian
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magpies are homebodies. Studies in the UK found that most
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magpies build their own nests no more than eight hundred
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meters than the nests that they were born in. They're
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considered an incredibly intelligent bird, and their brain to body
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mass ratio is similar to that of great apes, meaning
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that they have a similar cognitive two great apes. So
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smart Bob, very smart bourb.
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Burber is the word. And then when they meet, they
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are monogamous, so they do meet for lengths.
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Oh, that makes so much sense with Fred and George,
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not that they're like mates, but you know that they're.
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Landed for life for each other's people.
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magpies into this conversation because this is how I always
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imagine the magpie, and it will make sense later on
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with my little note of I don't think this is
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spread and George's petronas So the Australian magpie is just
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all black and we're white as well in them, and
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during the spring they are very mean to people, especially
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they're like cyclists or pedestrians, Like we have signs up
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where magpie is normally mate and it's just like beware,
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it's swooping season's sweetness.
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magpies are out to get you.
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send you, you guys, a little a little image.
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Swooping does sound like a bird that actually lives near
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like in Illinois where I'm from, it's called a red
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winged blackbird. And they are aggressive and territorial and total jerks.
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So this image shows what bicycle people have to wear
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during sleeping season.
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We really get out for art and crafted. Wait where
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did it go?
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Oh my god? Okay, yeah that is you guys have
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you guys have to.
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Put that on your helmet.
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is a helmet with well those zip ties tied rounds
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that make spikes, and then the next.
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so like your head's protected.
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sometimes they go for the eyes. Oh meanwhile, in Australia,
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in Australia, everything is still trying to kill you. Oh yeah,
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they're aggressfully territorial and they tried just to drive away
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frets and just.
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To keep their little little chicks safe in the nest.
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But anytime I walk past the magpie, it's like oh
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oh oh oh, head down, head down, walk or walk.
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Yeah, that sounds like whenever I see that there's this well,
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I've moved so now I don't know what the new
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track looks like that I live close to. But there
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was this track where we lived and we would go
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walk it and you had to be careful because that
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time of year, they would just start like swinging at
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you and trying to get you away because they thought
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you I'm like, I'm just walking. I swear, I swear.
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Now you know it's called swooping season. Yeah, they have
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a name for it. I'm going to tell my husband
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he'll love it.
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And another fun fact in Australia, in our Aussie rules
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so our shown Football league, we have a team called
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Collingwood and their nickname are the Magpies.
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Ah yeah, they're they're very I.
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a Magpie.
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I'll just say that they're fan base.
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So when the season's about to begin, they should really
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like put up advertisements that say it's swooping season or
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just pictures a team.
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Literally, when you know there's a game happening, you're just like, okay,
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I'm just gonna avoid, especially if they lose.
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All right, So time for some folklore and mythology. So
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with magpies, they're probably most well known folklore is the
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counting of them. So if you've ever heard the one
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for sorrow, two for joy rhyme about magpies, This comes
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from an old English nursery rhyme dating back to at
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least seventeen eighty, but probably before then, because seventeen eighty
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is like the first time it was actually like written
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down recorded. There are a bunch of different versions of
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this rhyme, and it really varies by region. So version
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one I put two versions in here, but there's way
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more than two versions, but these are the two that
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I came across the most. So version one one for sorrow,
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two for joy, three for a girl, four for a boy,
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five for silver, six for gold, seven for a secret
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never to be told son.
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I need to say six together so I can get
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the gold.
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Yeah, exactly. So the idea is the number of magpie
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you see at once signifies different fortunes to be had.
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Later, I need all the fortune I can get at
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this point apart from the kids. I don't need the kids. No.
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three for a funeral, four for birth, five for heaven,
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six for hell, seven for the devil his own.
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Self Version one.
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R Yeah. So Version two is very similar to another
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thirteen version that I found that goes all the way
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to the number thirteen, and thirteen is being the one
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noting the devil his own self. That's supposed to mean that,
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like that those seven magpies is the devil basically in
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magpie for Yeah, so fun times nursery rhymes are always
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a little.
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I like version dark.
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Why do a nursery rhymes always to do with something dark?
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Like bring around the rosies to read? What was it down?
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The plague?
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The plague? He's like, I did not need to know that.
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reason why JK R said this patronis fits the Weasley.
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Twins, which one the fist vision of the second version,
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so very.
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Very specifically the one for sorrow, two for joy thing
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because two for joy yay friend George. One for sorrow,
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Oh no, sad one's gone, one's dead. Okay, yeah, so
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it's still a dark twist.
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I don't like that.
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I do think there are more parallels, but okay.
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the whole trickster kind of thing, which I know in
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a lot of legends and stuff, they're more like trickster
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type birds too, So yeah, yeah, so yay rhymes to
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move on to some other parts of the world. In
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ancient Rome, the magpie is associated with magic and fortune telling.
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In Scandinavian folklore, witches sometimes rode magpies or turned into them.
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In German culture, magpies were considered to be from the underworld.
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drop of the devil's blood on its tongue, so another
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tie to the devil. Lots of witchcraft and devil going
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on here. Outside of Europe, cultures seem to have a
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much more positive view of the magpie. So according to
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some Native American legends, magpies where friends to hunter gatherer tribes.
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heard some too where Like I said, they're more of
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like the trickster, kind of like prankster bird as well
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on some stories, so a little more lighthearted. In Korea,
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this bird is said to bring good news, and in
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China the magpie is seen as a symbol of good
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fortune and happiness.
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the Nouga dream time stories, the magpie also once the
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sky used to be closed close to the ground so
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the trees could not grow, people had to crawl, and
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all the birds were forced to walk everywhere. And according
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to their stories, the magpies worked together to manage to
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prop up the sky with sticks so that it wouldn't collapse.
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with mythology. So Magpie teaches you how to master the
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art of persuasion while showing you how to avoid superficiality.
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A few human words.
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Wouldn't surprise me if that were true, but it in
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turn is said to represent different ways humans communicate and
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teaching a lesson that we should be careful what we say.
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Words are considered to have power, so magpies and seeing
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them stress the importance of balancing your self expression and
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idle talk. The magpie is an omen of good fortune.
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Or good news yeah? And China, so that one tied
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in more with Asia. But another thing magpies kind of symbolize,
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which is, if you have plans on hold for whatever reason,
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a magpie or seeing one is supposed to be the
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universe telling you to go ahead and take that leap.
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Tying in with the riddle or the rhymes, the number
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of magpies changed the meanings. Eight would mean a coming delay,
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but nine could mean that love was on the horizon.
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trying to stretch the amount of things that that could cover,
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because not only did it mean possibly love on the horizon,
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but it could mean a celebration or a baby or
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lasting marital happiness.
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All bases covering all your faces. People, The one that
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of meaning or symbolizing that life has two sides, so
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luck and prosperity or deception and fraud. They are known
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to be a lover of shiny things. I think we
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all kind of have that mental image of the magpie
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kind of collecting things, but this can also represent materialism
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a warning to not let appearances kind of distract you.
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was in dreams and to count how many you see?
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of a birth of a girl and four for a boy,
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and six meaning wealth. So I think they liked version
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one two. When I was looking up the symbology.
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the symbolism I thought kind of was touched on before
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with other things, but it was a lot of like
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similar the importance of two sides of things, which you
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They can be really humorous and joking around, But then
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they can turn around and make these things. I mean,
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weren't they making the shield hats that were like potago
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charms and selling them in the joke shop. So while
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something can be humorous to them, it can also have
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a practical side.
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So is this patronis right for Weasley Twins?
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Does this patronus fit the character it belongs to find
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out on the patronis is right?
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I think yes?
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They even talk about that with the mimicking or the
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potential for mimicking human speech, Fred and George. You see
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it as early as book four when they're trying to
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test their products and sell them on the side, and
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Molly's all mad at them, like they have a goal
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in mind. They want to be successful, they want to
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build something, And I think that that kind of overlaps
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with the way magpies kind of seem determined to me.
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I mean, I don't think we said any of that
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in our breakdown of the animal, but that's just how
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they come up across.
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To me, is a very determined animal.
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Well, and like the liking shiny things thing like I
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don't really think like friend Fred and George are like
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very superficial, but they are flashy, like they like wearing
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those flashy suits that they get. Yeah, they're you know,
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a little out there, right, They're very like, yay, look
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at us.
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Look at the what they did when they left, right. Yeah,
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they're all about.
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The big you know, the big display. I guess, the
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wow factor. That's a good way to put it.
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Yeah.
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I like this for them too, honestly, so I.
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Don't Yeah, I don't have any issues with it what
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I and I put a note in here, but I
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was like, I wonder, what, given the importance of how
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many of them you see, what if multiple come out
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of the one when you're casting your patronis? And does
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that tie in in some capacity?
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I don't know.
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Does your patronis become like a way to predict the future?
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That's kind of where I was.
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It's a patron a new level of devnation.
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Yeah, I'm not sure Professor Tlani would love that another
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way to predict a student's death.
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Like I said before, I don't like that that this
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is friend George's battonis again because I only really pictured
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the Australian magpie.
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But yeah, because they're just very mean during mating season.
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But I guess that's normal for birds, Like they're very protective,
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which I can sort of see friend George being.
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But I always thought that their patronus was a fox.
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I like it being fox.
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I thought they would just be more they're a bit
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more sneaky as foxes where this is, Yeah, I just
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don't like them being magpies.
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So if you take out the Australian imaging where it's
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not that mad pie, can you see it fitting in
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other ways or can you just not? Like Nope, that
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is the main pic. I cannot get over it. That
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is what it is.
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Yeah, that is just the magpie seed.
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Like I tried thinking of like maybe it could be
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the UK version, like, but it's like even that, I
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was like, I don't know if it really fits them either.
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I don't know, there's something about it being a magpie
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just like no.
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So it sounds like we need to present some different
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options to Lucy for what friend and Joe who's petronas.
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I think because like from the beginning, I always thought
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it was a fox, and even before doing this, I
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thought they were foxes and then when they when I
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got told they were magpies, I believe, like collating, whose
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patancis we know? I'm was like, no, for me, there
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always been foxes. And I think that's fan fiction's problem.
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Yeah, yeah, I think we have time to squeeze in
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a quick bonus segment of whose patronis is in any way?
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Which character could fit this patronus? Find out on whose
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patronas is it anyway?
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Yes, we did have some ideas for who else could
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possibly have a magpie patronis My first thought going off
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of how intelligent magpies are and it's a bird, so
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I thought about, Okay, what raven claw could this fit?
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And I kind of like this for Choe better than
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a swan. She's clearly super smart. I like the parallel
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of the folklore to do with witches riding magpies. Choe
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plays quidditch and rides a broom to fly. Magpies are
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misunderstood and misinterpreted in folklore, and I've always kind of
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felt like Choe kind of got a raw deal because
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we see her through the lens of Harry's point of view,
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and he's, you know, kind of delivious and oblivious and
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totally insensitive because he's Harry. Yeah, so I like the
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magpie for Chow. That's my vote.
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So regardless of what bird we give Chow, Lucy hates it.
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She has an issue with Swan's attactor. She has an
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issue with Magpie Favor attacked her.
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See.
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I think the problem is the Australian wildlife.
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I've never been attacked by a magpie. Yeah.
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I feel like just between the football team and what
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they do during the mating season's like not a good
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combo down here. Yeah, we can just blame it on
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this stray and wildlife like they're out to get you somehow.
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We're still alive.
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Yes, just get for the shark episode, everybody, it's gonna
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I'm gonna with some facts.
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We do have a shark episode. I figured. I was like,
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we have a shark.
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We do because I was like.
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Why isn't it whale. That's a separate episode, and that's
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a valid question for that episode.
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Whale would be too big coming out of your wind.
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I was just throwing out the obvious, ridiculous answer, like
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imagine if a stick, right, what comeing out those are?
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That's true, that's true, very good point. We do not
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know what kind of shark.
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I mean, most of these animals are not small, So
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except for the jaunty little fellows.
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Except John Fellows, Jack.
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Jaunty little fellow.
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When you.
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Fellow too big that logic.
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Does that mean a magpie is a John?
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I mean, but they are not.
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If you can picture a cartoon version of them wearing
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a top hat and carrying a walking stick, they are,
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in fact a jaunty little fellow.
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I can, but it's gonna look like a weird grass
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between Woody the woodpecker and a magpie. So I was
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reading Amy's suggestion and then it of.
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Course, okay, hear me out.
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It made me think of Lockhart, and the reason I
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think of Lockhart. He is blindly followed and adored by women,
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mostly because of his looks, and the symbology suggests that
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magpies are a warning of falling for appearances. He's materialistic
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and superficial and proven to be a fraud over the
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course of the book.
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So in my.
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Mind, if it is his patronis, and that would only
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be because it's a warning to everyone else run away.
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I feel like Lucy will like this one because I
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think she wants the magpie to be for a character
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she does not.
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Like exactly, So there you go. So I like this one.
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I knew it. We could have said the Magpie would
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be better for Balatrex than Fred and George and Lucy
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would be.
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Like yeah, no, not for.
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Yeah, Balatis is an interesting character. Actually like her character.
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It's very interesting.
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But lock out and like, nah, you're like always on
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the same levels, umbradge.
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Yeah, this this only works as a like warning. I
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don't think of this as like, I don't associate magpies
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with frauds.
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Tricks maybe, but not frauds. So I don't know.
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I'm not mad at it. I kind of like it.
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Don't tell me this season, I'm actually getting my act
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together and you guys are gonna like my crazy suggestions.
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Episodes I have.
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And this is the first time you've had a valid okay,
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hear me out that has kind of come from left field.
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The other ones make a lot of sense, like this
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is the first one that you had to like.
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Actually I had to sell you, but I sold you see,
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But that's my point.
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I sold you. This is not good. This is the
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wrong precedent. I got to go back to crazy.
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Well, I didn't think of my next one because I
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just randomly put one down and this is just purely
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bised on the poll.
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I think Lucy's gonna take my spot. As the crazy said, yes,
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so you got.
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I don't know, Like I just literally just popped in
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my head because I was like, oh, this could be
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Molly Weasley just based on the two poems.
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I was like, I don't know if I like that.
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If you don't, if you don't like it. For her sons,
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I am giving it to their mother.
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Well mainly because I'm just thinking she is. She is
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a smart woman, give her that. But like how the
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amount of the amount of magpie you see relates to
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something in the poem. I was like, oh, yeah, force
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four represents all the birth she's had. She she had
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to go to a lot of funerals, like she did
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lose a lot of members of her family, one for
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the sorrow of losing her son, two for all the
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joy she had is having kids. And yeah, I think
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some of them were just like anyway, but yeah, that's
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just my left field.
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I was like, maybe maybe.
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Somewhere in the air abyss this the poem could relate
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to Molly, because you know, the author did say the
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Twins related to the poem so true true, that's as
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far as my head got.
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I feel like that should be an entire episode on
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its own, analyzing the poem, figuring out if it applies
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to Molly Weasley, that that can be the next chaos
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chat Over on Patreon.
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I'll suggest that I don't go, oh this, and I
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will have like we'll have the white board up like
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with all the lakes.
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Sting everywhere.
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I love it. All Right, Well, I think that about
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wraps up this episode. You can join us next week
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when we talk about the connection between Twins and Patrona
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says to segue right from Fred and George into the
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Twins episode.
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Of course I planned it that way.
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