Ep.556: Rams can virtually LOCK UP the NFC WEST with Saturday Night WIN

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All right, guys, welcome back to Downtown Rams. As always,
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I'm Alexis Kraft, join here with Jake ellen Bogan and
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we are coming to you live tonight Thursday, December twenty
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sixth to preview our Rams matchup against the Arizona Cardinals
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this Saturday night. Some Saturday night football. You've got the
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Rams taking on Arizona at the end of a slate
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of Saturday night games, so that'll be fun. That's a
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little different. So we're going to talk about that matchup
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this weekend. We'll also touch a little bit on the
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Rams win over the Jets nineteen to nine. They were
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able to go to MetLife and get the w Jake
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was there. So, Jake, you've been present for a Rams
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loss this season and you've been present for a Rams win. Obviously,
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we know the latter is more fun, and you had
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a lot more fun at that game, even though it
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sounds like you were freezing, right, It sounds like you
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were quite literally frozen.
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Yeah, handwarmers in the glove and I still got frostbite,
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like and I was trying to text you during the
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game and I just my fingers weren't working, and then
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my face like people came up to me ask for
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pictures and whatnot, and I'm trying to have like a
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conversation with these people, and my face was like I
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could barely talk. So, yes, it was cold as hell.
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Well hell's not supposedly cold, but it was cold. I
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mean it was very cold. And I just want to preface,
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you know, by saying this, we like our job, you know,
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as people that analyze the game and react to the
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games and things like that, is like to keep it real,
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like we're gonna give credit. We're also going to discredit
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players and you know, call out bad play. But anybody
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calling out anybody for the way that they played in
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that game, I just can't do it because I could
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barely move and I was up in the seats and
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you had these guys running full speed and it was
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a crazy, crazy, you know, crazy game because of how
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cold it was. I think it totally impacted what the
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Rams wanted to do. They ran the ball with Kyron,
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they ran the ball with Blake. They only had Matthew
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Stafford throw it a few times. I mean, hands up
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with one hundred and ten, you know, passing yards. So
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it was kind of wild, It really was. Alexis I
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would say this, you went to the right MetLife game,
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because that one was not one, especially to travel from
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the Midwest and go to that.
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That was not the game to go to.
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Yeah, the game I was at at MetLife was beautiful weather.
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I mean it was a little chilly, but there was
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a lot of sun so it was kind of like
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that perfect football weather to where you know, I had
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a jersey on, I had a hoodie underneath my jersey,
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and I felt fine. So I definitely agree with you.
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I think I was at the better MetLife game in
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terms of weather and score, because I mean the Rams
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a blueated the Giants when I went.
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To that, he did.
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But you know what, we still won against the Jets,
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and that that's what matters is. It wasn't necessarily a
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pretty win. Wasn't a really pretty score nineteen to nine,
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you know, not not pretty. But you know what, I
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thought that the Rams played well, like you touched on,
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you know, the passing game wasn't really there. I thought
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the Jets did a relatively good job, you know, through
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the air. But Kyrien Williams twenty three carries one hundred
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and twenty two yards one touchdown. I was close to
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hitting the prediction. My prediction was over one hundred yards
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and two touchdowns from Kyroen. I was close. He only
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got the one, but that's all right.
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I got my prediction. Tyler Higbee, Yes you did.
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You got the Tyler Higbee touchdown, which was just like
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a cinematic moment to watch. It was kind of one
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that like as soon as he got the ball, I.
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Was just like, you know what, everything the earth stood
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still seeing that live you so come together and I
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was like, oh my god, Tyler Higby's open throw it.
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And my Dad's like, nah, I think he's in there
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just to block or be a decoy or whatever. I
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was like, no, no, there is, And I was like, wait,
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that is Tyler Higbye, right, And then I knew it
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was when he took off and he freaking dunked on
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the end zone because essentially nobody else in the roster
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is scoring there. Which brings us to the point where
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we were trying to explain how Tyler Higbee adds a
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dynamic to this offense that wasn't previously there. We were
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hoping it would be. We both interviewed Colby Barkinson. Right,
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I'm a big Davis Allen fan. And I've become a
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fan of Hunter Long's game. I think he should get
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more opportunities. With that said, though, I can't stress enough
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Tyler Higby just adds this dynamic that is not otherwise
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shown on the field, and so I think that is
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important to point out. Man of Paradox, super Chat, Hi,
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Jake Slash, Alexis, Saturday Night d Rob two two touchdowns,
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big Rig touchdown and Spike in my man too too touchdown.
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Love you both, Happy New Year, Well we love you too.
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And wow, so you got four touchdown passes for Matthew Stafford.
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I don't think that's crazy, What say you, Alexis?
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I don't think that's crazy at all. I also think,
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you know, kind of switching gears away from the Jets game,
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you know, talking about this Cardinals game. You know, we
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faced the Cardinals earlier this season and it went horribly.
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So let's let's get that out of the way. Uh,
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you know when the Rams met and listen, I know
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that it was a different Rams team, a little bit
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banged up at that point. You know, when we played
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the Cardinals, there was not an excuse for that game.
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That game was just one of those NFL games where
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a team gets absolutely I think Clawbird, and there's there's
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no excuse for it other than they got out played
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and that was not how you and I were expecting
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that game to go. No, I don't think that that
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happens tonight. And we're going to talk about or Saturday night,
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excuse me, and we're going to talk.
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About why you're to get Saturday are you well?
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Well, I mean, I'm just I want to I just
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want to touch on the fact, like, let's we're talking
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about this game, because what I'm going to say for
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my predictions against the Cardinals is I think it's going
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to be a very different game than it was earlier
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in the season because I think the Rams are very
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there's a vengeance there. There's a little bit of a
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revenge game scenario. So would you lose that badly to
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a team in a game like that that it was
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against Arizona, You definitely remember that going into your second meetup,
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you know, of the season. So I do agree with
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you know, man a Paradox and anybody who thinks it's
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going to be a touchdown show on Saturday, because I
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think the Rams really have something to prove. And let's
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also talk about the playoff implications, right, yeah, you know
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I'm seeing in the chat right now for everybody listening
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via audio. We are recording this live. There are listeners
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who are chatting with us as we record this. You know,
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people are talking about the Bears game tonight. So the
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Bears play the Seahawks tonight. Every Rams fans, every Rams
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fan listening needs to be cheering for the Chicago Bears tonight.
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It's not. And I'll let Jake kind of explain. He
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explains all of this playoff implications really eloquently, and I
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do not. I kind of have to talk myself through it.
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It's a lot of steps. But Jake, please explain for
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us what we should be cheering for tonight, Bears versus Seahawks,
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and what will happen Saturday night if we win or lose.
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Yes, so obviously you're cheering for the Bears. The Bears,
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you know, it's frustrating they beat the Rams earlier in
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the year, but they could make up for it by
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beating Seattle. It's in Chicago, it's on a short week.
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Seattle was coming off a heartbreaking loss where they were
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going down the field and they threw a game, losing
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interception to the Minnesota Vikings. This game is huge because
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if Seattle loses this, then if the Rams win on Saturday,
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there is zero chance that Seattle, regardless of the Week
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eighteen outcome, can win the division.
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They can't win any tiebreaker, no chance.
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But if Seattle wins on Thursday, while still very unlikely,
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as long as the Rams handle their business on Saturday,
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then realistically speaking, we're talking about a one percent chance
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of Seattle getting in with all the different things that
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need to be had. And I saw a tweet about this.
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It was like a graphic and I want to find
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it because it really did a nice job of kind
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of showing you, you know, what the hell has to
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happen for. Oh here it is, okay, So shout out
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to denniz Selman thirty three. If Rams lose to Arizona,
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Week eighteen is for the NFC West, regardless of Thursday
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night football makes sense. If Rams beat Arizona's, Seahawks' only
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chance is to win both of their games and get
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a strength of victory miracle. So this man color coded,
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and I'm gonna try and bring this up. I never
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do this, but I'm gonna try to bring it up
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here on the thing. So let's see here. We're going
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to try and present this because I think this is great.
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All right, there we go, let's go. Visuals are great.
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Okay, Let's let's lower that so you guys can actually
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see what the top says.
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All right, So the.
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Rams need five of the seventeen to have the strength
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of victory. Seattle needs fourteen of the seventeen. So how
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does this work? Well, so Dennis color coded all this right,
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So the Rams would need the Saints because they beat
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the Saints to get that one.
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Right.
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However, the Saints got absolutely creamed, so that went to Seattle.
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Seattle has one point. Rams just need five.
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Keep in mind, so if Cincinnati beats Denver, right because
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Denver played Seattle, then Cincinnati is a point towards the
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Rams because it hurts Seattle strength of victory. It makes
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Denver's record less. So then you have the Minnesota game.
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The Rams beat Minnesota and Seattle lost to Minnesota, so
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that goes in the rams favor, So that would be
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two points. The Rams would only need three more after
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that Buffalo to beat the Jets, which I would have
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to imagine they're going to do that. There's three. Cleveland
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to beat Miami not a guarantee because they beat Miami.
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Seattle did and the Rams did not, So that would
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go in favor of Seattle. Washington to beat Atlanta. I
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like their chances there. San Francisco to beat Detroit. I
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don't like their chances there at all. And then week eighteen,
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and this is the thing. If five of these things
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happen in the Rams favor, then the strength of victory
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is clinched, like it's done before week eighteen. But if
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you don't have that happen, right, you don't have these
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things work, then week eighteen you're okay because if San
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Francisco beats Arizona, that's gonna be two points and that
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would pretty much end it for the Rams. Minnesota beats Detroit,
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that would end it for the Rams. Buffalo beats New England,
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that would end it for the Rams. So a lot
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of things here. Just the point here is that strength
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of victory is going to be a win loss percentage
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of the teams that you played. So that's why if
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Seattle has played some you know, some of their own
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teams where the Rams don't share that team, or if
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the Rams do share that team on the schedule and
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Seattle beat them, but the Rams didn't. That would go
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in favor of Seattle. So a lot of different stuff here,
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but really this is a long shot, Alexis.
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This is like hitting a you know, hitting the lottery almost.
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I mean, it's it's gonna be really difficult to have
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to rely I mean, look at who the Sea how
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has to rely on. They need Chicago to beat green Bay,
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you know what I mean, Like, they need Chicago to
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beat green Bay, they need Denver to beat Kansas City. Right, Like,
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this stuff isn't guaranteed at all, and it's not guaranteed
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for the Rams, but it is a reminder that this
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is what they need to do. So shout out to
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Dennis Selman thirty three on Twitter for putting this out there.
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I like the whole you know, this thing, like kind
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of just the visualization of everything. I don't know if
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this helped this hurt you, I like in any way,
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But yeah, that's how that is.
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Well, Yeah, I think for starters, every buddy, starting with
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tonight Thursday Night football, it would really do the Rams
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a solid if the Bears could win. We don't need
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we don't technically, like Jake said, we don't need them
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to win, but it does make things a lot more simple.
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If you know the Bears can beat the Seahawks, the
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Seahawks take the loss. So we'll see. But I will
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say so, I live in Chicago, and a lot of
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Bears fans are actually rooting for the Bears to lose
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tonight because they have they've kind of made up the scenario,
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which I guess is kind of true. I don't know
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how true it is that if the Bears just lose
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out they'll get a higher draft pick, right and whatever.
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Not all Bears fans are thinking that way. I know
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a great deal of Bears fans who want the team
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to lose tonight. So, in a weird way, Rams fans
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are rooting harder for the Chicago Bears to win tonight
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than a lot of Bears fans are, which I think
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is a little funny. So we'll see. Obviously, I don't
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think that the Bears are going into the game with
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that mentality. I think they're going to try to win,
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and I hope they do win for all the reasons
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we talked about, Jake. But we'll see. Yeah, like you said,
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the game is in Chicago, it's a home game for them.
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They have home field advantage, so yeah, we'll definitely we'll
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see how the game turns out. You and I will
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be watching, as I know a lot of Rams fans
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will be when we get done recording this episode. But
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turning to the Rams away from this Bear Seahawks game, Jake,
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you know, going into Saturday night, I keep wanting to
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say Sunday, reminding everybody it's Saturday night. Don't forget the
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Rams are playing Saturday night, December twenty eighth, eight o'clock
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Eastern time. I believe. So what do you think, Jake,
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is the number one play for the Rams to beat
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this Arizona Cardinals team, Because, like I mentioned earlier, we
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struggled against them when we first played them. I felt
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like our I feel like our defense though, has really
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solidified and came together since we played Arizona the first time,
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because if everybody remembers correctly, it was really painful watching
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Kyler Murray basically dissect the Rams defense when we first
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played them, and I feel like a large portion of
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that had to do with the fact we had a
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young defense. They looked good in the season opener, but
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then they kind of showed where they were at that
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second game in the season against Arizona. There was no chemistry.
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They weren't really playing well together. They looked confused a
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lot of the time. So now that we're at the
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end of the season, I feel like it's going to
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feel a lot differently on defense, Jake, what are your thoughts.
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Yeah, it's going to be interesting because the Cardinals really
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aren't playing for a whole lot aside for pride. But
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I want to make it very clear that when a
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team like the Cardinals gets eliminated in a season where
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obviously the players thought that we were going to go
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to the playoffs, but the reality is a lot of
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us felt like they were probably win like maybe seven
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games and show out and really get people excited for
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the future.
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That's what the Cardinals are.
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Okay, They've set themselves up well where you know, they've
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drafted well, they have traded for the right guys, they
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have acquired the right pieces, and they have over one
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hundred million in cap space next year. They brought back
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Buddha Baker finally, it felt like he's been trying to
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get paid for eight years. I don't think he's been
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the league for eight years, but just felt like that.
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But when you talk about the Cardinals winning out could
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really do a lot for their confidence moving forward. If
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this team finishes nine to eight, we're talking a completely
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different thing. And that's that's where the whole well, I
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want a better draft pick.
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That's where I don't care about all that.
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I just maybe it's just because I watched really bad
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Rams football in Saint Louis as you did.
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Maybe that's it.
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But I don't care about draft picks because look, if
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you don't think that they can trade up five spots
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to go out and get the guy they want. If
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it ends up being that, I don't know what to
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tell you. You don't need, you know, a wicked high draft pick.
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What you do need is stability. You need some momentum,
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and you need to actually build upon the foundation you set.
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It sets a really bad example. If the Cardinals lose
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out here and go seven to ten, no doubt about it,
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it's just not.
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A good look.
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However, if they finished the season nine to eight, they recovered,
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they missed the playoffs by a game or whatever, and
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now you can build off that. And not all the time, Alexis,
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but most of the time, obviously, injuries come into play.
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But most of the time, the hottest teams at the
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end of the previous year are the teams that coming
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in next year, as you know, the sleeper teams, the
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dark horse teams, the teams that really kind of you know,
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push their momentum in the following season. So I think
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the Rams are going to get a fight from Arizona. Now,
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I know they're not going to have likely their left
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tackle or their right tackle. They are banged up. That's
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not a shock there, But you know, I still think
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they're gonna give the Rams a fight. I just don't
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think there were was talent as the Rams. The Rams
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are healthier. The last time the Rams played Arizona. Here
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was the starting lineup. You had Matthew Stafford, Kyen Williams,
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Tyler Johnson, Cooper Cup for a half, DeMarcus Robinson, Kolbe Parkinson.
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Then you had Kevin Dotson, rob Havenstein, Bohlimmer, Warren mcclennon Junior,
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and Jonah Jackson. So the offense without Pooka Nakua, but
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for the most part, the offense was pretty much what
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they're gonna see.
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You know.
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Now you had Tyler Higbee. Maybe Havenstein doesn't play and
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then you look at the defense, and the defense was
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Brydon Fizz, Kobe Turner, Bobby Brown, Byron Young, Jared Verse.
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Sounds right.
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However, then you had Troy Reider, John Johnson, Quinton Lake,
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Trevarius Ward, Kobe Durant, Cameron curl So there were some
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different pieces around this team when they last played the Cardinals,
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and the Cardinals when they played the Rams they also
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had some different pieces as well. But I think the
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big thing here for the Rams is that they have
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retooled their secondary. They didn't have Darius Williams, they didn't
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have a Kellow Witherspoon. I think he signed after this
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game to the practice squad, but they did not have him.
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John Johnson was like their go to safety earlier in
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the year. He goes down, then you find Jaylen McCullough.
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Later on the year. You find guys like Cameron Kinchins,
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who got absolutely exposed in this game, but really built
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himself up as the season progressed. Right, Troy Reider, though,
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you have Christian roseboom now who's trying to set the
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Rams record for tackles in a season, and you gotta
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Omar Spates. So you have all these new guys, and
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this is kind of just the NFL in a nutshell.
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Time goes on and things change. War mcclennon Jr. Is
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not starting for this team. Jonah Jackson is not starting
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for this team, whether I think they should give him
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a shot at right now or not, because I would
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rather have him play the noteboom right now. If haven
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Stein can't go, he's not starting for this team. So
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a lot of different variables here. It goes back to
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Week two as well. This team was vastly different than
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what they are right now. And I think a big
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thing here, Alexis is what a lot of people might
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be shocked to see is if you've already forgotten the
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Bills game and you're just going by the fact that
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the Rams didn't score a touchdown the forty nine er
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game on a short week in the pouring rain, and
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if you're forgetting about the fact that they played in
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the coldest temperatures in the Sean McVay era and they
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only scored nineteen points, well, be ready because this is
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going to be at SOFI Stadium. They haven't been there
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since the Bill's game when they scored forty four. So
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it's just a reminder. I know it feels like it
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was a while ago now, but I don't think this
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offense is gone. I think they've been in hybridnme because
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of the cold, and I think the ready to unleash
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themselves in front of everybody on Saturday night.
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I agree. I think we're in for a big game
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from the offense, and just to touch on kind of
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the defense. Like we just kind of talked about the
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difference between Week two, right and you know now Week
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seventeen or whatever it is playing against you know, the
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same Arizona team. The chemistry I think is going to
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be a parent. Like I said, that Week two game,
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something that we really talked about and I know other
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RAMS fans talked about as well, was just how confused
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that defense looked against Arizona, and how Arizona was able
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to exploit a young defense that was still learning and
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who's kind of playing with each other lack of chemistry,
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Like the confusion was a parent Like you could literally
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watch the RAMS players in the field kind of looking around,
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not sure what's going on. That's going to change and
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I think that's going to be a big factor in
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this game. Shout out super Chat that Jake just put
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on the screen. Jean said, worried about our tackles health,
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They are crucial. Yes, agree, Jake, Let's start there, you know,
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talking about specifically what we think is going to happen
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on offense. What do you think this tackle situation indicates
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for Saturday? Do we think Rob is going to be
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able to play?
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I do.
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I think they're trying to be very cautious with this.
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I also think they wanted this to get out to
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let people know like he's going through something. So if
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you see some dips in his production and what have you.
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This is why. Now it's annoying because they did just
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have an injury report right before Christmas that felt like
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a Christmas gift.
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Nobody was on the injury report.
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I was so tempted to copy and paste that and
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put it on a shirt and sell it or just
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better yet, just wear it all the time because it
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made me feel something. But then the next day they're like, yeah,
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Rob Havenstein's shoulder. It's like, come on, you know so
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I think they I mean, he already said Sean McVay
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already said if he can't go, Joseph Nobuom will be
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the right tackle. My issue is Joseph Nopum is not
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a right tackle at all in this league. He is
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a solid left tackle. I watched him play against the
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Giants last year in a pinch. They threw him in
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three hours before the game because Aleric Jackson couldn't do
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it and guess what, he didn't allow a sack, he
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didn't allow a pressure.
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He was really good there.
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But you're not going to move Aleric Jackson, who's playing
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at a very high level right now, to right tackle
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just because Joe Nopum can only play left tackle or guard.
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So there, you know, therein lies my.
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Concerns with a potential game without Rob Evenstein, because it
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just takes one guy on the offensive line to have
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a terrible game and then all of a sudden, the
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rest of your offense line is feeling the effects of it.
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And I feel like Sean.
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Is really gonna have to do his best to make
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sure that these guys are getting chipped on the right
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side if it is Nopum. But I'm gonna be honest
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with you, I would really try and do something creative here.
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I might well, I'm not gonna say I might.
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I would, And I don't know if he can do it,
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but I know Joseph Nopum can't do it. I would
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play Jonah Jackson at right tackle.
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I would.
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I think he's you know, he's built for that. I
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think he could absolutely play right tackle. He'd be good
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in the run game. I just know from watching Joseph
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Nopum he is not a right tackle in the NFL.
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It's just he's just not. It does not work. He
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does not look natural. That's the reality of it, you know.
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And so that's my concern, Alexis, is that I just
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don't think the right guy is playing in the right position.
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And I get injuries happen. I understand that, but you
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have to understand you're putting Stafford in harm.
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This is a must win.
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The Cardinals are trying to knock you out of the
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playoffs because the Cardinals look at the Rams as the rival.
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The Cardinals look at the Rams as the bully. The
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Cardinals haven't been knocked down by the forty nine ers
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the way the Rams have knocked down the Cardinals. So
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I think there's a lot of you know, I don't
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want to say bad blood. I don't feel like the
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teams despise each other, like the Rams and Niners do,
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but I mean there's some bad blood. But yeah, I
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just I think that that would be a mistake if
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if No Boom is starting at right tackle, I don't
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believe he started since the Dolphins game and we know
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how that went, so I just I would temper the
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expectations there if he ends up playing.
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I do think Rob Havenstein will play.
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I just think they're trying to be really cautious with him,
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understandably so, but I would go with Jonah Jackson at
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right tackle. And I don't know if he's and I
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can look as you uh you say your piece. I
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can look and see if Jonas ever played right tackle.
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I'm gonna go with the guests that he has.
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But what say you, Well, yeah, I'm not I'm not
481
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sure how I feel about it. I mean, I think,
482
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you know, if we're looking short term, we're looking at
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this game against Arizona. I mean we Matthew Stafford got
484
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sacked five times the last time we played Arizona. Three
485
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of those sacks were by Dennis Gardick, who is now
486
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on IR Yeah, you know, so not to say, you know,
487
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because I'm looking at their depth chart now and I
488
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.119
want to be careful because going into that game, I
489
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was like, Oh, I don't really know that there's anybody
490
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that I'm totally afraid of. You know, their pass rushers, right,
491
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and then you know, Stafford ended up getting sacked, you know,
492
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five times. Dennis gave them fits. But again we had
493
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a very different offensive line ish, So I don't know.
494
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I think just whatever they decide to do, either they
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do play Rob or you know, they put in note
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Boom or like they do your Jonah Jackson idea, whatever
497
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.680
it is that they end up doing, I just think
498
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.759
it's going to be critical to protect the quarterback, especially
499
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you know, you get this late into the season. You
500
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can't have Stafford getting hurt.
501
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:23.000
I was wrong. He has never played at right tackle.
502
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I went all the way back to Rutgers in twenty sixteen.
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I'd still play him there because I know Nopum can't
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play there.
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So you would rather experiment. And I don't know that
506
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I feel okay. I mean, I'm not saying it's.
507
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The right answer. I just live on the edge, but
508
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I would do it. I would be like, can it work?
509
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Because now this is where it gets fascinating, because if
510
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they could move him to right tackle, Rob, Heenstein's contract
511
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is almost up. He could end up filling a need
512
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instead of a guy that's just going to be let
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go this offseason, probably traded for pennies on the dollar.
514
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:09.319
Well, I didn't give We did give Jonah a big contract. Yeah,
515
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and you know it might be worth you know, seeing
516
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if we can get some use out of them. Oh. Man,
517
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it hasn't worked out, you know so far. So yeah.
518
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.079
I mean I'm for whatever option doesn't get Matthew Stafford's act.
519
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.119
So if that ends up being, you know what to do,
520
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I'm all for it. I don't have a star. I
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don't think that's what they're gonna do.
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I hate no, No, they're going to go with nopum.
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If he already said they're going to go with nopoom.
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If haven steinus and I would go with McLendon over nopum,
525
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That's what I would do.
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But I'm not saying they're great. No.
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Uh.
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To answer the question in the comments section, no, noepoom
529
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did play because that was the big thing about the
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Dolphins game. They threw three new offensive liignment in from
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the previous week, and they benched did it?
532
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.000
Who picked? Who played well? Pitched well? Good lord?
533
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:07.319
He played well? And bo Limmer. So that game, it
534
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.440
wasn't a fluke. It was a direct, you know, response
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to what happens when you play three new offensive linemen
536
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on your offensive line after the other guys had kind
537
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of jelled.
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So I don't know, well, but you know.
539
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I think, well, yeah, I mean looking offensively, you know
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at the Rams aside from the offensive line, kind of
541
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:34.839
question mark right now, what do you think that their
542
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game plan is going to be. Do you think that
543
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they're going to look to kind of building off what
544
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they did against the Jets and just really hammer the
545
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:43.599
run game. Do you think they're going to try to
546
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go balanced offense? I mean, you look at kind of
547
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:50.839
this Arizona depth chart, Uh, you know their secondary you know,
548
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Sean Murphy, Bunting, Jalen Thompson, Buddha Baker, Starling, Thomas Garrett Williams.
549
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:01.039
Which I'm I need a look at their ir again
550
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:03.480
because I feel like there's someone missing from that list.
551
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Was it Elijah Jones?
552
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It may have been.
553
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I'm actually Jones started when we played them last at
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Corner And.
555
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My thing is if Havenstein isn't playing, then yeah, I
556
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think they're going to run the ball. They're going to
557
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be conservative, they're going to try and attack the left side.
558
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:28.319
It just sucks because we all know they you know,
559
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:31.480
Kyroen looks the best when he's running, you know, behind
560
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guys like Dotson and Havenstein. If haven Stein can't go, well,
561
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.200
now you just have to figure out a way to
562
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:39.880
make it work.
563
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And you know that's the thing.
564
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I mean when you look at like the rushing direction
565
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:49.680
for Kyron Williams on that game against the Jets, this
566
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:54.079
is somebody who basically was averaging eight yards per carry
567
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running right tackle. He's averaging seven running right guard and
568
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middle right, which is of course the center and the
569
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right guard in between those two, who's averaging five point seven.
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When you move over to the other side middle left,
571
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center and the left guard three five point two, left
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guard and left end, which is off the tight end
573
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on the left side, who's averaging five point three. Regardless,
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he's a very, very good back and he's gonna find
575
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ways to make plays. But there's not really a shock
576
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.640
to people when you say, this guy's clearly better running
577
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to the right side because he's got two of the
578
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:36.839
best run blockers at their perspective positions. Now, to be fair,
579
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:39.920
in that forty nine er game, he actually ran better
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to the left guard. He had five point four yards
581
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per carry and they kept running it that way. On
582
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.599
the right side, he had two point three yards per
583
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carry running right guard, two point eight running middle right,
584
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and four point five running right tackle. So interesting stuff there.
585
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.400
These are things that I focus on. Other people are
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probably have a rip. I just want to win, but
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00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:06.279
I think this stuff matters, and it's just kind of
588
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.039
the effect when you lose a guy like Rob Havenstein.
589
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:11.519
This is what you're dealing with. But you know what
590
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:12.480
makes the most sense.
591
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.359
Now I have this information in front of me.
592
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Probably to look at the last time Joseph Nopum played right,
593
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which would be the Dolphins game. What did we have
594
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moving to the right side. And Karen Williams only ran
595
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the ball near Joseph Nopum four times and he ran
596
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:35.880
it for four yards, So they don't they know. Luckily
597
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:41.519
they know middle right five carries twenty yards, four carries sixteen. Yeah,
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00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:44.160
right tackle and right end did not go over well.
599
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:49.039
He averaged seven yards per carrie when running to the
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left end, which is to the tight end in the
601
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left tackle, So yeah, I mean Nopoom was already always
602
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:02.680
considered a better run blocker than a pass protector. That
603
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:04.720
might you might be able to get away with that,
604
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but he's not haven Stein.
605
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:08.160
That's the real.
606
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Havenstein's an enforcer on the offensive line, and when you
607
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.640
lose a guy like him that it's significant.
608
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.920
Well, right, so maybe that means that the Rams are
609
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:21.559
going to be a little bit more inclined. If he's
610
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not playing to try and get the passing game going,
611
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:28.680
he hasn't really gone, you know, I think the past
612
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:30.680
couple of games the way that they wanted to go.
613
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.480
But you know, this the secondary, you know, again looking
614
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.440
at this Arizona secondary, I mean, obviously Buddha Baker is
615
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:41.480
the guy you kind of watch out for, right. I
616
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.240
don't know that the Rams won't try to target like
617
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:48.480
a Garrett Williams or Starling Thomas. You know, I think
618
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:52.960
Puka Puka Nakua and Cooper Cup are now both playing,
619
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:58.119
and that could really give this Arizona secondary problems. In
620
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.240
my opinion, I would not be surprised at all if
621
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:06.359
the Rams came out and just absolutely targeted, you know,
622
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.199
some of these corners for Arizona and really sought to
623
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:10.559
look to get the passing game going.
624
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.320
Williams is having a great year. By the way, he's
625
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.119
one of the better corners in the league. I would
626
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:20.760
say Murphy Bunting. Yeah, yeah, he's he's good.
627
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.000
He out of Syracuse.
628
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.239
He's the guy we liked out of Syracuse. Yes, he
629
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.880
tore his acl remember, and that's why he felt.
630
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:32.360
You're right, there's all these Williams corners that I feel like.
631
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:36.960
I always like, yeah, but no, he's a stud. He
632
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.480
really is. He's not getting love.
633
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:43.000
You know who else they have? I need to stop
634
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:44.519
looking at the depth chart this way. You know who
635
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.800
else they have is Max Melton out of Rutgers.
636
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:50.360
Yeah, he's also a stud. Now he's not playing on
637
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:51.960
the level of No, no, no, no.
638
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.679
But I'm Williams expanded. I'm expanding it. And then they've
639
00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:02.239
got Dadrian Taylor Emerson I don't know that I'm familiar with.
640
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:07.880
Yeah, No, he's a he's an athletic guy, hard hating player. Uh,
641
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.880
back end, the secondary guy. Baker's having a good year.
642
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.719
But I mean he's that's to be expected. A lot
643
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.119
of people know who he is, and.
644
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.719
They've got I think it's pronounced Katrell Clark out of Louisville.
645
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.840
I think we watch I think didn't.
646
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.159
I don't remember. I don't know we're going to interview.
647
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:30.199
I don't remember if we did.
648
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.039
Well. He was out of Louisville. I watched his tape,
649
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.800
but I don't remember if we interviewed him. Yeah, but
650
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.840
you know, I still again, nevertheless, I still think that
651
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:42.280
the Rams are going to come out. I think they're
652
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.360
going to target the secondary. I think that this could
653
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:45.960
be a game where they might have success in the
654
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:52.000
passing game. I think the uh chat edwin. Thank you
655
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.280
so much, super Cheat.
656
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:58.440
I love you guys. I've been listening. I've listened to
657
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:02.000
as sports fan like Mike Over at a NFC West
658
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:04.840
round table, and he and his followers think we are
659
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:06.840
going to blow them out of the water Verse Turner
660
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:11.559
and Young Sack. I am not going to do this
661
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:15.639
again because the last time that I said they would
662
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:19.639
blow the Cardinals out was Week two. So I don't
663
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:24.360
predict blowouts. They it can look like a blowout, but
664
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.400
I'm not gonna say a blowout's gonna happen.
665
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:26.840
That's just me.
666
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:31.039
But no, in all seriousness, the Rams are the better team,
667
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:35.639
They're more talented. It's at home. They're coming off five
668
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:39.960
straight road wins. They're coming off wins four straight. It's
669
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:43.199
the biggest you know, win streak of their season, bigger
670
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.960
than any point last year. By the way they're coming off,
671
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:51.119
you know, establishing the room with Karen Williams, getting Tyler
672
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.239
Higbee back, getting healthy.
673
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:56.679
You know, we'll see what happens with Havenstein.
674
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:01.960
But no, there is there is zero excuse for the
675
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:04.519
Rams to lose if.
676
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:05.559
They lose Week eighteen.
677
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:12.760
Okay, Seattle, they lost in overtime, right then, they could
678
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:14.599
have won that game. They shouldn't have been able to
679
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.360
win that game. The Rams let him back into it.
680
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:22.400
But yeah, I could understand that Week seventeen. However, you're
681
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.639
going against a team that embarrassed you. They beat you
682
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:28.559
thirty one nothing. They made you feel like you were
683
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.840
nothing zero to two to start the season. Now they
684
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:36.880
responded well, fighting back beating the forty nine ers. But Alexis,
685
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.679
losses like that can kill your season before they start.
686
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.679
And we were talking about it, like, I was really
687
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:47.039
impressed with their loss against the Lions. I thought what
688
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:50.400
they did with all the injuries they had was something huge, and.
689
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Then they followed it up with that.
690
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:59.519
So if they actually lose this game, because I mean, basically,
691
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:03.440
this is how works. We keep talking about what happens
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00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:05.920
at the Rams win. Yeah, yeah, what happens that the
693
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:12.800
Rams lose. If the Rams lose, then regardless that last
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00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:17.000
game Week eighteen against Seattle is a win, and you're
695
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:21.559
in survive in advanced playoff game and it's at home,
696
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.679
no excuses, you're playing at home, back to back games.
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00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:29.239
I don't care that they're at your rival. Get it done,
698
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:30.679
and I believe they're going to.
699
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.559
I do as well. So let's get into our score predictions. Jake,
700
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:37.800
do you want to s Yeah?
701
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.320
First, I'll go first.
702
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:43.800
I'm going to say, because I actually feel a safety
703
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:51.840
in this game, I'm gonna say thirty three to twenty hmm. Interesting,
704
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.679
four touchdowns, a field goal and a safety.
705
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.280
So my I don't know why my gut says this,
706
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:03.239
but I mean, I have the Rams winning. I think
707
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.039
it's going to be twenty seven to twenty four. Rams.
708
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:06.880
Damn.
709
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.920
I think it's gonna I think it's gonna get close
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00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.280
towards the end. But I just I don't know. The
711
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:16.280
Arizona seem to have our number the first time we
712
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.119
played them. Like I said, I know we had injuries,
713
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:21.360
but it really was not an excuse. It was really
714
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.079
just bad. It was a bad loss. So I felt like,
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00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:26.920
you know, they were able to kind of get in there.
716
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:28.840
They seem to kind of know what we wanted to do.
717
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:30.599
I think it's gonna be a close game, and I
718
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:32.599
think the Rams are gonna win twenty seven to twenty four.
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Now I won't be surprised if they win by a
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much larger margin, but I kind of have that superstition
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as I know, do you, because when we predicted the
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score last time they played the Cardinals, we were both very,
723
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.639
very wrong, and I'm not gonna mess with that again.
724
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:50.400
You know again, this is a division rival, this is
725
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.320
a team that knows us well, we know them well.
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I think it's gonna be a close game. Jake, going
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into our bold predictions, did you just give a sneak
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peeg a one because you mentioned to safety that one
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of your bold predictions.
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No, because I'll just throw that out there. You know
731
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what I mean, it's a freebie. You guys enjoy it. Okay,
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So bold prediction first one. I think we're going to
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get the first touchdown of the season for two to
734
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.360
two out Well, God, I feel like I've said this
735
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:19.199
so many times, it's gonna happen.
736
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It's going to.
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00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.880
He might even get two because I think yes, because
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I think the thing that a lot of people might
739
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:31.639
not know is that Pooka Nakua, for whatever reason, is
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not good against the Cardinals.
741
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You might not even realize this.
742
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In two games against the Cardinals, Pooka Nakua has fifty
743
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three yards for on eight catches. He has been targeted
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in those games fifteen times. I don't know what it is,
745
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.119
but he has not played well against the Cardinals. Then
746
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.199
he didn't get a chance to play in Week two
747
00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.239
because he was out. I just think I'm I mean,
748
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.599
obviously history can be a little weird, like why is
749
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:04.719
he bad against the Cardinals? Is the allergic to like
750
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:09.440
the color red? I don't know, but I think with Nikua,
751
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:12.679
he's gonna open up the door for others. Now you
752
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.079
have Higbee, He's gonna open up the door for others.
753
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.760
So I think two two out. Well is going to
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00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:25.079
have a touchdown this game. Next I think we get
755
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.840
Blake Koram's first touchdown of his career. It just feels
756
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:34.079
so obvious like this would be the game because if
757
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.920
it gets tight. If it's in a pinch, they're gonna
758
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.760
just ride with Kiren. But if what I believe is
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00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.639
gonna happen ends up happening, I think they win comfortably
760
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.159
in this one. I'm not saying below out, but comfortably.
761
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.840
Then I think they're gonna feel inclined to give Blake
762
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.159
Korum an opportunity at the goal line, and I think
763
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:56.440
he's gonna punch it in. So that's number two and
764
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:59.880
number three. God, I hate saying this. I feel like
765
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.800
jinx in him, but this is the week, and I'm
766
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:07.079
gonna say this until he actually does it. Kello Witherspoon
767
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.119
is going to have an interception. It is going to happen.
768
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:12.840
He should have had one against the forty nine ers.
769
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.239
Brock Purty underthrew it. A lot of people think that
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00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.280
led to the pass breakup. In terms, it actually just
771
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:22.760
saved him from getting intercepted, and then he could have
772
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:26.159
had it against you know, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets
773
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:31.079
a couple times actually, But we'll take the pass breakup
774
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:34.320
on a fourth down and turnover on down. So in
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00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.760
this one, Kyler Murray is going to try doing what
776
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:41.480
he did in week two, moving around, making plays with
777
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:45.480
his legs and he's going to fire it into maybe
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00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:47.920
double coverage or something, and Keller is going to pick
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00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:48.320
it off.
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00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.199
And that is what I have.
781
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:56.000
I like it. I hope that happens. All of those
782
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.320
are very good predictions. You did steal one of mine.
783
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:01.960
The first one was gonna be Blake Korm touchdown.
784
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:04.199
I could see it in your face.
785
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:06.400
I know, right as soon as you said it, I
786
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:07.920
was like, ugh, that was gonna be one of mine.
787
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.880
I feel like I am jinxing that though, because I've
788
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:15.400
bet on that so much, almost like like basically the
789
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:17.800
past four or five RAMS games. I throw it down
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00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:21.119
Blake Korm anytime touchdown because I just feel like you
791
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:22.679
can see that the Rams are trying to get him
792
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:24.559
more involved, I think towards the goal line, and I
793
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:27.719
think it just you know, they've just had you know,
794
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:29.960
situations where they end up kind of needing Kyen in
795
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.199
there and and so you know, Blake gets taken out.
796
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.440
But I just feel like, especially if the RAMS start
797
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:36.400
to get a lead, like you said, this will be
798
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.559
the game to try and you know, get get Blake
799
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:41.280
that first NFL touchdown and get him in there. So
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00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.119
we'll share that prediction yet again, I will bet on
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00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.199
it Blake korm anytime touchdown and hopefully it hits this week.
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00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:57.760
So that's my first prediction. Second prediction, let's see see.
803
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.079
I feel like Puka is gonna to break kind of
804
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:02.679
that energy.
805
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:08.920
I just wanted to say to to out well, well, I.
806
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:11.199
I think we are going to see too Pookin Akua
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00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:14.480
touchdowns versus Arizona. I just have this gut feeling he's
808
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.719
gonna have a good game against them and get it going.
809
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:21.880
And I mean he's Pookin Akua. I mean nothing's gonna
810
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.679
stop him right long. So I think that he's gonna
811
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.800
have a good game against Arizona. Then on the defensive
812
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side of the ball. From my last prediction, I'm gonna
813
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.239
say I think we're gonna see a Cameron Kinchins interception.
814
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:39.320
I just like the way he's been playing. I feel
815
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:43.559
like he's gaining more and more confidence. He is I
816
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:47.000
think going to the Cameron Curl school of tackling. I
817
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:49.000
don't know if anybody else has picked up on that. Like,
818
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:55.280
he will hit and it is fun. Yeah, watching something
819
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:57.880
is in the air. It's it's kind of this infectious,
820
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.119
uh you know, tackling energy that I to see. So
821
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:04.000
I think we're going to see an interception from Cameron
822
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:08.239
Kinchins because yeah, I just I think that he's gotten
823
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.280
but I think he struggled as we talked about, you know,
824
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:11.880
to start the season. You know, he was kind of
825
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:14.559
thrown in their early definitely had some growing pains, and
826
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:16.199
I think he's coming into his own and I really
827
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:19.079
like to see it. So we'll see. I think both
828
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.159
of our all of our predictions were reasonable. Super chat
829
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from Edwin.
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00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.199
Edwin question for both of you, would you rather spend
831
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:28.400
a day with Kobe Turner or a day with Pooka
832
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.400
and Nakua you were in La you can do whatever
833
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:39.320
you want. Ooh hmm. I'd probably say either because they
834
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:41.039
seem they both seemed like they'd be a lot of
835
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:41.840
fun to hang out with.
836
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:43.440
I couldn't decide.
837
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.199
I would say, I know, I would definitely hang out
838
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:49.079
with either one of them for a day. I would
839
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:51.440
say Kobe. I feel like Kobe and I would have
840
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.559
a lot in common because he's a big music lover
841
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:58.199
as am I like, I don't feel like I know
842
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:00.320
off the top of my head, and he like picular
843
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:03.039
hobbies of like Puka like what we could talk. But
844
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:04.840
maybe that's why I should spend a day with him
845
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:05.760
so I could like get to.
846
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:09.400
Apparently he's big on anime and I'm I'm rocking the
847
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:13.519
the Goku Game Changers shirt. Shout out to Holden by
848
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.280
the way for hooking me up with it. So I mean, I,
849
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:20.239
you know, could uh could do something with that. But
850
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:25.960
I actually met Kobe Turner the in l A the
851
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:28.639
Rams and Eagles game after that, and it seems like
852
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.440
a really nice guy. He knew who I was apparently,
853
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:36.000
so that was cool. But you could also throw Ovula
854
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:40.239
in there as well. Those guys just they feel like
855
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:43.800
there's like an infectious like joy, like they're they're always smiling.
856
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:48.360
I met Ovula after the game with uh Brendan Well,
857
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:53.159
Brendan Jackson. I mean, everybody here, yes, probably knows probably
858
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:55.960
knows who he is by now, but we interviewed him and.
859
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.280
Yeah, he's got that like he's due.
860
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:01.079
Quentin.
861
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:03.559
Yeah, I guess Quinton Lake is really cool too. I
862
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:07.199
would say I would hang out with Kobe or Pooka both.
863
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.960
I would hang out both of them if I had
864
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.880
to pick. Just the question is you know, I just
865
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.159
feel like Kobe and I. On a musical level.
866
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.719
You can do whatever you want. So would you would
867
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:21.000
you go out and just sing like duets with Kobe?
868
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:26.280
I cannot sing, so no, but I would maybe we'd
869
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:31.480
just like hit up a ton of concerts or more.
870
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.440
What would probably happen is Kobe would maybe be performing
871
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.000
in a concert and I would go to watch, like
872
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.360
we'd hang out before, and I feel like Kobe would
873
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:42.000
just have like a concert somewhere.
874
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.360
I feel like Pooka and I would probably go to
875
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.119
like a Laker game and then go to like Comic Con,
876
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.119
and I feel like Kobe and I would probably go
877
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:59.599
to like, yeah, probably like a Laker game, and I
878
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:04.119
don't know, see like yeah, see a concert something like that.
879
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:09.320
Nothing too crazy. I'm not a very like crazy outgoing person.
880
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:13.239
So yeah, I know that's probably a boring answer, but
881
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:18.719
that's the answer. Edwin appreciates you, and then Happy Gilmore, which,
882
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.400
by the way, Happy Gilmore Too is coming out on
883
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:26.679
Netflix this upcoming year. Looking forward to that. Happy Gilmore
884
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:30.800
gave us ten thanks for the content, Jake and Alexis.
885
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:36.440
So we appreciate you guys, and I guess we're gonna
886
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.760
wrap it up because Alexis.
887
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:40.760
All eyes are on this game tonight.
888
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:45.159
This is probably the most publicity the Bears have had
889
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.880
in quite some time, this late in the season, for
890
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:54.639
a completely different reasons. Yeah, by the way, so we
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got we got, Well, we're gonna help you guys out.
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app here and we're gonna pick some of these. So, Alexis,
899
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:31.480
everyone is riding the JSN wave.
900
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.480
The question is are you one of those people?
901
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.239
Am I yes, So I'm gonna go with more as well.
902
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.960
I think he's that are wide receiver one. I've been
903
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.039
really impressed with him. I used to call him out
904
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:50.719
all the time, said he was overrated. He has proven
905
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:52.800
me wrong. I think he is going to have more
906
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.360
than seventy five and a half. In addition to that, Alexis,
907
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:00.679
I really like the five and a half. I'm gonna
908
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:04.079
avoid six. I don't like pushing, and this would be
909
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:06.400
a push. I think I think he's gonna have exactly six.
910
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:08.960
But I'll tell you what I do like. I like
911
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:12.639
this one. You see the devil there. The green one
912
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.079
is like, okay, yeah, this is easy. You see Caleb
913
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:19.000
just needs to throw a touchdown. But the red one here,
914
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:20.400
Keenan Allen.
915
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:21.000
Look at this.
916
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.480
He has had five touchdowns in the last five games.
917
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:28.679
Has almost had a touchdown every game. I like Kean
918
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:29.360
Allen to have more.
919
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:29.960
What say you?
920
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:36.559
I agree? I actually have a prop in with a
921
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:40.400
bonus bet. I had Keenan Allen two plus touchdowns. If
922
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:41.519
anybody wants like a.
923
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:43.239
Fun little I do like that.
924
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.199
And then he is Caleb's favorite receiver.
925
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:49.920
And then Zach Sharboney they just ruled out. And then
926
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:53.039
I know this looks ugly, but they just ruled out
927
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:56.440
Kenneth Walker for the rest of the year, which isn't
928
00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.760
saying a ton because there's only two more games. But
929
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:03.239
Sharbonay did not start this Greenmey game. He didn't start
930
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:06.920
this Minnesota game. Kenneth Walker came back for these when
931
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.039
he was the starter. This is what he did against
932
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.159
the bad run defense. And I'll tell you right now,
933
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.679
Chicago is a worst run defense, second worst right now
934
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:18.320
in the league. Then Arizona. I'm gonna say more for
935
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:19.239
Zach Sharboney.
936
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:23.719
I like that. And then do you have any that
937
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:27.679
you'd like to throw in here? You got three?
938
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:33.159
Let me look closer. Sorry, guys, my eyesight is bad.
939
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:41.719
I don't know. I'm gonna not comment because I feel
940
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:43.559
like I'm gonna jink. Jake and I were just talking
941
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:47.280
off air, and he's much better at this than I am.
942
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:50.119
I've not had good luck lately. I mean, I think
943
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.079
that it's gonna be a big game for sure.
944
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:56.360
Caleb's gonna have to throw I'm gonna say two d
945
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:57.360
and twenty plus yards.
946
00:51:57.400 --> 00:51:58.159
I think he could do that.
947
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:03.639
You do that might be cole comet. Ooh, he might
948
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:05.559
be like, I'm not you know, I don't want to
949
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:09.320
jinx it. But he's kind of been heating up quietly.
950
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:13.639
You'd say cole Comet. I mean, Keenan Allen is obviously
951
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:15.800
his favorite receiver. You're not gonna go wrong with any
952
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:17.159
Keenan Allen Betts.
953
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:20.719
Well, it seems like he kind of fell off, So
954
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:22.280
I don't know if I would do that.
955
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.280
But he is averaging twenty two points. Yeah, look at this.
956
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.760
I don't know I'm gonna take a cole commt prop tonight.
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I you know what, chat, I think I'm gonna stick
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with what we got here, although I kind of like
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the DJ Moore, I'm gonna go with more than fifty
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seven and a half. So there it is. So check
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it out over on price Picks JSN. We're taking more
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all the way up to I'd say eighty. I would
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take more than eighty. Keenan Allen touchdown, Zach Charboney sixty
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nine and a half rushing yards more and Dj Moore
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fifty seven and a half receiving yards. You can do
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it all over on the Prize Picks app using my
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code JK Bogan. It'll get you fifty dollars instantly when
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you play at least a five dollars lineup. That means
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win or lose, you're gonna have fifty dollars added onto
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your account. But that is going. I don't know what
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happened to a screen, but that is gonna do it
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real quick.
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Shout out to Alex, Love you, Alex, you Alex.
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Kobe and AK going on a hunt for vintage vinyl. Yeah, damn,
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that sounds like that'd be fun.
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I feel like, yeah, I feel like he's probably into vinyl. Yeah,
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we could go shop and good idea. But guys, everybody,
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make sure you tune in tonight to the Bear Seahawks
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game if you've got nothing else going on, and cheer
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hard for those Chicago Bears, because, like we said, if
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the Bears win, it's gonna make things a lot easier
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for the Rams. But don't get your hopes up. Yeah,
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like I you know, they're not favored, but we'll see,
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we'll see what happens. But guys, we'll be back next
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early next week kind of recapping the game against the Cardinals.
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Until then, you can follow us some social media at
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Downtown Rams. You can follow me on Twitter at the
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Alexis Kraft, you can follow Jake at JK Bogan and
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uh yeah, we'll tune into this game tonight. We'll watch
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the Rams Saturday night, and until next time, guys, As always,
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stay safe, take care, and go Rams