Episode 3.4 - Progression & Regression Towards The Mean, The Nats Are Settling Into Form

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's up everyone?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back with another episode of District.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Baseball talking all things, nets, and dabbling around majorly baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am Nick back again, very excited to be here with my co-host trade, and you can follow the show at District BSB over on Twitter slash x, whatever you wanna call it, these days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trade has a go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick is going all right, and that's our kind of maintaining pace right now around 500 over the last four series with a six and seven record, haha, but yeah, no, I think I think that, you know, there's been some good, there's been some bad kind of similar to where we were the last time we showed up here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, before we dive too much into it, it's just like, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a bad thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was sort of to be expected, but you're kind of sort of seeing some regression to the mean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's also a progression to me and like offensively with the way this team has been constructed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: Plotuning and playing the numbers every single time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got off to a great start offensively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And offense still isn't necessarily a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're starting to see some dips, some slumps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This offense is not going to be one of the best in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: by the time the season is over, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the flip side, the bullpen, the pitching, overall, has, has been better, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're making moves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They, they defade a, another reliever and called up another one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're not accepting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think they would accept mediocrity, but they're not accepting subpar performances, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're still trying to make changes and they're getting good results or release better results.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a different kind of state of the union of this team since last time we talked, but overall, again, before we dive too much into it, I'm still feeling pretty positive about what's going on right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 16 and 19 record is better than what I expected us to be, especially considering the strength of schedule to start the season has been top five in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've only recently got to series where we were maybe expected to win or thought that we had a better chance to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Judging by that, I would say 16 and 19's pretty solid, you know, just got to continue to stay with it and win series that we should win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think so far they've done that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, agreed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the first series that, you know, we're going to talk about is going back a couple weeks to the brave series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we last talked on the show, we had just kind of tongue-in-cheek mentioned it was a really good opportunity for the Nats to take over first place in the division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which it was, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just strictly looking at the numbers based on where the Nats were and where the prayers were within the division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's there's Tanaka the Natsui.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Braves won the series three games to one, a nine to four win in the opening game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They led through five full innings and then the typical mats collapse late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was in the sixth inning, Drake Baldwin got a RBI double after an error, and it opened the floodgates, Braves scored five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brad Lord was uncharacteristically bad that day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Overall, he's been very solid, but that was not his day game two, and that's bounced back, got on the 114 win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just going from 2025 to 2026.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's offensive the first thing that has been like one of the more pleasant prizes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This season and this game was indicative of that getting their first in scoring going again with three runs and forced low pass to throw 46 and I'm sorry, we're not all low pass to throw 46 pictures in the first inning, bouncing in the second inning and James would took care of that with another home where James would still producing at a high rate foster grip in one of the early
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, probably the early surprise of the team, with how well he's been coming over from the KBL, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, a foster group in another quality start, Luis Garcia, two clutch hits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Curtis, me, three, one bomb, who's been kind of another under the radar acquisition that they brought over right before the season started in a platoon role with Louis F. first base and has kind of had some big hits early on in the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... and then game three and four did not go their way bravest one eight to sixty and three and seven to two in game four offensive performance was solid and game three but Zach would tell
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whew, has not been great, you know, miles, my close gets a lot of the, the flag and I think rightfully so, but LaTelle's been just as bad if not worse, the season unfortunately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did the Nats often did force the brave starting pitchers to throw 100 pitches in the first inning in the first three games of the series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lyle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: why we were in wood all homework but just wasn't enough and then game four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: James would again right, great series of for James Wood but offense was flat all day, sign up for us, couldn't hold back to the braves and probably won five innings stuck struck out ten but brave so that is seven to two win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was kind of an unfortunate series because you felt like, I felt like that's played pretty well overall and just some some misplays and the bullpen in that series really couldn't get it done, although that was really the last series of bullpen pitch particularly bad because we're heading right over to the white sock series at in Chicago at a cell phone field or whatever it's called.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one that's series two to one didn't start great with a game one loss It was a good game in that game one white socks one at five to four back and forth Michael has actually had a decent out outing he only allowed a solo shot to Murakami so
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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty much everyone's allowing a homer to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Riley Cornelio was actually called up for this game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He made his debut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I think he kind of got put into a bad position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He absolutely did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that basically this was in that 17 game in 17 day stretch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The national's ball pin was basically shattered from the brave series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not a whole lot but you would have could have done, although I didn't love asking him to come back out for the eighth inning after struggling in the seventh, but what are you going to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ended up allowing three runs in his outing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: House, Brady House, had an eighth inning homework to tie that game, but unfortunately the white socks did score in the bottom of the eighth and held on for the win game two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nationals win six to three in extra innings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Irvin's first truly good start of the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say he went five and two Thursdays and he had nine case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The curveball for Jake has really been an elite pitch 44% of swings are whiffs of that pitch this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is an elite rate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the Missine Nune as game because he drove in four runs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's end up taking advantage of some white socks miscues late in the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe they had a wild pitch to score to run, they walked in a run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was a pretty nice performance from Nunez and the Nationals offense in that extra in game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Game 3 was the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another extra innings matchup, the nationals didn't uptake in that one, two to one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But nobody scored through the first nine innings of the game on either side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a 00 contest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Foster Griffin was the pitch for the nationals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Nick alluded to earlier, he's really been the star of the pitching of the starting rotation so far and the entire pitching staff to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He went seven innings, no runs, two hits, two walks, eight k's, and Nick you had
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[SPEAKER_00]: previously on our, on our most recent episode about, you know, but you're having a little bit more feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not, maybe not pulling a guy instantly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, asking you shall receive because this is the perfect scenario for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Tara went out there after Griffin, I believe he had gotten the second out in the seventh inning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: gave him a talk to said hey how you doing man said i'm feeling good he said all right go get ends up getting that final out so that's just a great display of trust between player manager there and something just a good thing for us to see because it's kind of the first time that but terrace managed with field rather than maybe what the number said but yeah ends up
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's up to the 2-1 final after the Abram Seckfly and Tena Solo shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Paxton Schultz gets the save, and that's pitching only allows that one Phantom Runner in that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was a great win to finish that 17 game in 17-day stretch at 9 and 8.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely good there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is incredibly impressive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is 70 games, 17 days to come out with a winning record as much for this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot different than just a year ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you mentioned the, uh, the feel thing for you tear that the Cornelio thing and a couple of things we talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're 100% listening to us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're without a shadow of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were texting like four separate things that happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, what does go on here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a little weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of nuts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'll, you'll hear us kind of allude to some things later in the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll pick up or put it down basically, we're just kind of hinting about what we want to see next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, for those listening, yeah, just to stay with us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Series 3, we've got a trip to Queens to take on the Mets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is probably the one series where you're kind of looking at, you're like, wow, Nats should probably be favorite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then game one did not go their way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely the worst Nats performance of the season, the Mets one easily ate nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: very dominant and he has been pretty good, was it, yeah, it's clay homes that's good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think he's like a sub 2ERA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been pitching really well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the only net or a met starter that's been doing well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Zach LaTelle made things pretty easy for the met offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's making things easy for too much every offense, but Robert V of his error in the fourth was main catalyst because he was that would have been I think the second or third out of
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What if it had told play, but then walks followed and then, uh, yeah, it was, uh, it was a lot, a lot of bad stuff kept off by a one sort of homework to end his night one sort of went on to have quite the series against the, the net so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Game 2, the Nats bounce back in a big way, crushing the Mets 14 to 2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The offense really broke out of its mini slump in game 1 to put up 14 runs behind K Kabali with six ending strong two runs in struck at 10 Mets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He allowed his first home run to season 2, the aforementioned one, soto.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the big thing in that game is, I think it was like the second or third inning where the Nats scored eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were like, this was the Brady House
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're up like eight runs nine and one, whatever it was at the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kate Cavali goes out and throw us like 26 straight strikes afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that cannot be overstated, like they're such thing as pitching with the lead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's just challenging guys in, you know, a met's offense that has been really bad this season despite what
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[SPEAKER_01]: the net song game one, like you know, they're not going to be able to do damage against you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's even though he's still very young and has not put a full season together yet, really kind of like veteran asses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Captain stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a leader stuff right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To go out there and just do exactly what we need to do and have his best outing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, in the bullpen is has really had to throw a lot of innings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Say, and all right, I got to get through six at least here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: exactly and Curtis me it had his first career for it game so just another kind of under the radar good offensive showing from Curtis me it and then game three the rubber match the tight one the nats win five to four they took advantage of them early errors to get to a three-o lead but the medspan it was a very weird game
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, it was, uh, meds battle back with four unanswered runs three off my list and then CJ Abrams with the pimp shots, a pimp shot of all pimp shots, uh, points to the dugout as he hits a go ahead to run home or off Luke weaver in the eighth, uh, it was, I love that they're kind of giving letting CJ do his thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because he's playing confidence, he's playing with Swagger, which he always kind of did before, but the Nats would or you know, the management would always kind of be a wet blanket and kind of stop that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're letting you were even though the lineup construction is very, a typical like you're letting your forehead or go do 400 things just kind of be a dog out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really cool bullpin picked up five innings only allowing one run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this is really a series where you saw the shift in the bullpin kind of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: being something we can rely on from time to time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I love what Boutara said after that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he definitely acknowledged, you know, there's times that you got a hustle out of the box and and get after it, but there's also times where your team get and fired up is more important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he mentioned that the reason why CJ was pointing is because Boutara was the guy pointing at him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that's pretty hype.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can't I can't imagine Dave Martinez ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: do it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sometimes it's more important to fire the boys up, which it ended up working out because the pitching came in and shut it down after the after that home or so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just definitely my favorite moment so far this year, even though there's been some good ones, that's got to be up there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then, unfortunately, I wish we could have kept that momentum going through this, this brewer series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did manage to salvage it today on the Sunday, uh, get away day, uh, brewers end up taking that, that series two to one, although the nationals did win this season series, uh, in total, but four to two after I believe going, oh, in six last year against Milwaukee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, big improvement there, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yet it all comes down to poor defense in this series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both game one and two poor defense were the reasons why the Nats loss for the most part I will say they got Mizorowski didn't game one You know sometimes you Like against clay homes, and I think Sean Burke for the white socks you could argue that while those guys had good outings You could argue that the nationals kind of gave them some outs because they started swing they started getting in swing mode They started hitting a lot of balls on the ground because of that
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't really say much about that with Miserowski's outing, he was just down on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they hit some balls hard to get caught, James would had a rocket shot, first base, I think CJ hit one pretty hard that got caught too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part, he was averaging 101 on his fastball, he was still an 98 mile per hour sliders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The dude was locked in, he had a no-hater going, um, that's despite, I mean, the pitch count would have made it so that he wouldn't have finished that game anyways, even if he was still no-hitting because the nationals were working the outbats in that game, like you can't really fault our hitters in that one, I feel like they put up some outbats, it's just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, you got 101 sailing by at your eyes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're probably going to swing a couple times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Game 2, that's one where you can blame the offense for starting to get swing happy and not really locking into their plate appearance because they didn't do much in that game either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But either way, again, the defense is the reason why they ultimately lose that game because of an error in the first inning that ends up allowing three unruns to score.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it ends up in a four one victory for the brewers so you know you take that play out it's one to one theoretically obviously you know the outcome changes completely but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Theoretically, you're one to one through nine innings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go to extra innings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a chance to win that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's all about playing clean baseball, which they did in game three, which is why they end up ultimately winning that game with clean pitch and clean defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the offense was pretty not great in this series, and they weren't that great today, but they got just enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Three runs was just enough today for a win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was that was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The salvage victory heading into the off day tomorrow and the twins coming to town next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, just kind of going to the brewer series because I have to say that's one that wrapped up today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely good to salvage, but that brewer team looks a lot more like the brewer's, we kind of expected, going into Milwaukee that first series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they looked really just sound.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mr.owski is the real deal, hopefully his injury is not anything too bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was a hamstring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we were concerned at first to make sure that, because obviously we don't want any elbow injuries for any great picture, or any picture in general, that was a hamstring crap, so he should be fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so but at the same time was certainly a blessing to see him exit the game earlier than expected because the offense could not do anything and not many offenses can do anything against mr.owski.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, game two is the one where you you want that back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, foster orphan went.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and did his thing, he looked really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just defense let it down, which will kind of dovetail into a larger defensive talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have here in a bit, but that was one thing I really liked where you tear it kind of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: challenged the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't call them out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't pull of a debut Martinez.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's never on the coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, the coaches need to be more prepared.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to increase the intensity of our pregame defensive work to, you know, make sure our defense gets to where it needs to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Boom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, next day, today, we're according to some Sunday, May 3rd, they go out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They, they win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: three to two a tight one against again a good team and the big thing is a one run game or one run win zero errors defense responded today in a big way because the coaches challenged them and then power them they don't they you know blame there was no blame there was no whatever it was just stating facts like hey you can't expect to win games when you're leading the league in errors right we have to play clean baseball we're not stacked with
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, pictures that are going to go strike out 15 game or whatever we're not stacked with hitters one through nine like the bothers I can go yard and any single time like we have to play a particularly certain brand of baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in order to win games and they have been, you know, in for stretches at times so far early in the season, but if one of those kind of mechanisms within the system fails, you see it, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why you get like a four to one loss when it could be, yeah, maybe it's a two to one loss, but it should have been tighter, right, in game two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So long as long way of saying like it was a really cool moment to see the coaching staff challenge of players and the players answer
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I can't say I've agreed or disagree with every move that puter is made because some of the line-ups come out and we're looking at, I don't like, is this really what we want to go with?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what, I've just, I've a lot of respect for managing team the right way, not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: understanding that it's everybody in that room that's it's all all of them together that make make that's what's going to happen happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that I definitely appreciated his response there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for the most part, I think he's done a pretty damn good job so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've liked what I've seen so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we're not going to agree with every managed like we're not going to have every bull
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[SPEAKER_00]: can i count on you when it's when it's crunch time yeah i think i can so i think i think that's kind of what we're looking for in a manager right and there's gonna be growing pains he's a young manager but uh yeah and he and that's actually sorry sorry to cut you off yeah you're good that reminds me um there was a moment where
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jacob Young was on first base and James Wood comes up and they he got caught stealing and my first thought was Why are we even running there and the first thing that he says in the press conference was hey guys That was my bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were not we tried to we tried to take that feel off when Wood came up But I was too slow getting that so I have to be better communicating with my coaches and I was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if he feels like they're minimum, but like he's so many so many coaches don't do it, so it's just that's just great like he's like, all right, I know I'm new and I'm young and I've got to
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[SPEAKER_00]: improve basically just like the player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that was great to hear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, lots of good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But as we mentioned at the top of the show, there's progression in there's regression like we're still top five and run scored, but other categories we've fallen back to middle of the pack sort of as expected, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We weren't going to be top five and everything and sustain that through the majority of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Still top five and stolen
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[SPEAKER_01]: in WRC plus an 18th and slug.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were top five to six in all of those two weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So just kind of shows how the offense, while has its momentum still has slipped over the past two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wooden Abrams are still solid, but not as good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The past two weeks, they can't carry everything all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no one else is really stepping up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Me and has looked the best, but even still he's a bulltune player, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lyle is an everyday player, but he's ice cold right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brady House really struggles with the fastball, which is a bummer to see like the grand same as a great moment, but otherwise has not really done much in general, but with the fastball, some particular, he's really struggling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Although, he did have a nice aggressive single today, getting a pinch hit appearance for Jose Tena, who tripled the earlier in the game, which was kind of a not an odd moment,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Always you're gonna get looks when you take out a guy who hit a triple earlier in the game and then, you know, Brady House enters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brady House knows he needs to do something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it was a first pitch single smoke to left field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was ready to do when he came in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's good and overall he's been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Technically a better a much better hitter than he was throughout last year, but that's because the the bar was so low.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, you know, he's taking better our baths as walk rates up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's definitely some positives to see with house and he's been hitting the breaking ball pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said lefty's really well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you can't hit the fast ball at all in the big leagues, you can't be a big leader.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to have to work on that and continue to grind away and try and try and get on time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe they can find a timing mechanism for him, you know, guys, sometimes he has got a little leg kick, maybe they give him a toe tap or something just to try and get that timing down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, it's loyal as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, he, I feel like he's just been a little bit streaky this season so far where I thought he would be a little bit more consistent as a hitter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not super worried about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he's going to figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He still hits a lot of line drives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was listening to the radio call and I think it was before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Game 2 maybe of the brewer series maybe game 3 earlier today, but they were talking to Curtis me and just talked about how, you know, he had it, he's been having a good season, he got to play the white socks, who was one of his former teams that they play the race next month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're just talking about his journey, for those that don't know, he's from Australia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the game is really growing over there, but anyway, he was just talking about
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of the the platoon situation, not just with him in Luis Garcia, but kind of everyone or at least multiple positions, catchers, third-based segments, et cetera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, just talking about how the guys are just constantly rotating and, um, even mid game right, you know, you didn't get the start, but you still might end up with two at bats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe three depending on if it was early sub or or sub later in the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just talking about yeah, you may not get four or five at bats, but you're getting one to two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: pretty much every day right so you have to make the most of it but in some ways you are still able to find a rhythm because you're playing every day it just might be half a game or a little bit less a little bit more which was interesting to hear because you know I think for someone like Brady House giving him the majority of the reps and at bats and stuff like that and letting him grow it's more important but in this grand scheme of things like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: are in the mood of the grand scheme of things, but in the day to day of it all like he still is kind of playing every day and Curtis Mead Louis Garcia, Jorbe Viva, so as a tenant like they're all still kind of getting in, shuffling through and playing pretty regularly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I don't bring it up to say it's a good thing or a bad thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just kind of interesting to hear the inside baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to speak of it all and how the players are kind of adopting that philosophy as well and how it's translating to their games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm a,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested to see which players stick in a platoon role, and which can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just some guys can do this and some guys can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like me, it seems like the type of guy who's thriving in this platoon role.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that you can say the same thing about a guy like Luis Garcia who we'll talk about in a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be interesting to see as a season goes on, which guys kind of become the everyday guys because it's better for them and which guys are just able to do the platoon thing and it's better for the team strategy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that kind of balance is going to be interesting, especially if we get to a point where we're not in any more and we're trying to play for player development purposes rather than winning, but that's kind of a long ways away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we don't have to think about that quite yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're still in a position where we
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[SPEAKER_00]: believe that there's a way that this team can win a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's try and win until we can't a way to win would be for the pitching to improve and I think that they have definitely done so over the past couple weeks pretty much since that brave series and you know what you can kind of strike that brave series as the brave's being ridiculous right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean they are outscoring everybody by so much what are you going to do at a seven if I ever have to see Matt Olson's face again
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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, other than that, they've been pretty dang good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Their F, the F4 has improved, improved, improved quote unquote from negative 2.4 to negative 0.9 over the last two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a big jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of overall, overall wins over placement there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: unfortunately coming from such a low that it doesn't look so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, they've actually been really good 3.5 ERA since the giant series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Foster Griffin, like we mentioned earlier, and we're gonna mention again because he's been that good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He started to really settle in as well as Cade Cavali.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kavali had two back-to-back starts with double digit strikeouts for the first time in his career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the first time actually that he'd ever had 10 strikeouts and then he did it again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his command has looked really, really good over his last three outings, really, really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's been, especially with the fastball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's put in the fastball right where he wants it right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's huge because he's got a good fastball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The numbers on it right now don't look great because
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[SPEAKER_00]: He kind of kind of got hit around a little bit, but I feel like it's really improved with the little location.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really all about location with that fastball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jake Irvin is like, he's, I feel like he's closed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like his strikeout rate is a lot better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's strikeout.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think 10 baggage per nine innings right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Excellent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So any pitcher, but definitely starting pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just feel like he's
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[SPEAKER_00]: if he would stop walking players that didn't need to be walked he would be good like I feel like it's with him all the time I don't have the numbers in front of me but I feel like with Jake this year it's he's walking guys that he should be attacking and if he can kind of eliminate those walks
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could probably be a four-ERA guy, which doesn't sound great, but for this team would be pretty serious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it'd be serviceable for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that career ball's legit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's really starting to spin that thing well, 44% wiff rate, like I said earlier, that's a lead stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the bullpin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sub-4 ERA sub-4 FIP in this hot stretch that have been a little bit less of a rotation of the guys, but still a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're definitely not shy about using the AAA guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: when they when need be, but it's definitely it's an interesting bullpen because you've got multiple swing men, you've got multiple long relievers if you count our starters, you know, coming out coming out after the openers as relievers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just it's a weird amalgamation of guys, but they say they've gotten it done over the past two weeks, so gotta give credit where it's due.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gus Varlin and Richard Dick Love Lady have emerged
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[SPEAKER_00]: as the best laid-in candidates at the moment with Clayton Beater actually hitting the IEL with a forearm tightness, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, keep me going to keep an eye out on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, like I said, if this team's really just got to stop walking players who shouldn't be walked, like David Hamilton, for example last night, Lee Off Walk of David Hamilton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You should never walk David Hamilton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's David Hamilton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't hit like guys like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like this team walks too often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like they get nervous or something like it's too easy of an hour and they can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but you know, even Foster Griffin has done that a few times, but by that last night, actually that's who it was that walked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: David Hamilton anyways, if they can kind of clean up those walks, I feel like they're they're headed for a much better middle and end to the season than the start perhaps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they de-a-fade as you know, Perez yesterday brought up Orlando Revolta, who've seen a couple times throughout the season, seemingly for a more permanent spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how long that's about last.
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[SPEAKER_01]: swung a trade for Zack short in the signed to triple a so not that he's going to be, you know, the closer the future or anything like that, but just another option that they can call upon if anyone in the bullpen starts struggling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is good to see it stabilize a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know, no matter what it's not to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: an elite bullpen but it's good to see it's at least performing better and giving the team chance to win games late and close out games late that you know wouldn't the often studs provide them a lead like they did today even if you know they allowed one run the score being able to to slam the door shut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Violin and love lady in particular like I love the emotion they're showing right like this mean something to them it's not just like okay cool we we won the
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are all journeymen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are all people who are fighting for the lives, they broadcasts with talk meditate, like how they're doing drywall in working all these odd job to the miners just to kind of further livelihoods and add that they're up here getting a chance, like showing a motion, like that adds something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not for nothing, like is a motion
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, being able to celebrate that, you're more likely to have repeat performance, it's sustained that production.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's cool to see them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've had three different, three or four different relievers record their first career saves this season, which is cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like everyone's getting a chance and they're just playing matchups and it's working, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: At least starting to work a little bit more of a higher clip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's cool to see, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, foster Griffin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to talk about him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is the fourth best ERA in the National League with the 227.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's starting to get deeper into the games, which is really the nice thing to see because.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't throw shade at Foch River, but like it was understandable when his area was so low when he was only going like four innings, right, because they would pull him before that third time through the lineup and just continue to play matchups and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now he's going deeper in the games and sustaining that production.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And emerging has truly a system's ace, which is kind of wild to say, given what we thought in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but he's clearly getting the trust of his manager as Tray mentioned with the man visiting the White Talks series where he was allowed to stay in to get that final out to cap off what was a great performance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His metrics are fairly average, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, his pitch is how he is seven different pitches, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to be able to command all of them at a clip that is an elite walk rate would be kind of crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I will take a little bit of a higher walk rate if you continue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So just keep hitters off that on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he truly is of all of the starters on the staff, the one that
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[SPEAKER_01]: pitches more than just throws, which is cool to see like just the juxtaposition or the change in styles from like Cavalry to Griffin, so to speak like Cavalry can learn a lot from post-re Griffin as weird as it's as even though post-re Griffin, this is kind of his first real taste of success in the major league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So cool to see post-griven having
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking extension.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about you tribe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel insane for saying it seems like a perfect guy to extend I actually the reason why I even put this in there was to talk about potential extensions for him because he's not a guy that's going to really command a big dollar value no matter how well he pitches and he's not a guy that's going to get a ton in return like you can probably get a nice
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, dart throw prospect for him, but he's not going to be like it if you were to trade like a sandy all contra or rightly or even a McKenzie go or like you're not getting a significant hall for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you might as well just, hey, here's two years 25 million we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could have wrote this part for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's exactly what I was going to say to 2225.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like nothing crazy, like no four or five year deal or anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, I mean, you've got a good player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got a good player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, it's still May.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's definitely, he's going to not be a 2.27 ERA guy at the end of the year, but could he be three?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you got a 3-ERA guy and a 150-plus innings, you want to keep that guy, you know, as your 3-4 starter, that's, that's, you're looking, you're looking good there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and like like you said, I can't imagine he gets...
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[SPEAKER_00]: a ton of attention at the trade deadline even if the numbers look really good because he's not a stuff guy you know he's he's kitchen sink throw everything actually type of guy to be fair I looked at the stuff plus metrics and they're not bad they were actually I was more expecting like lower stuff plus better location stuff but you know the stuff isn't is not bad he's got a nice curve ball nice cutter and then the fastball is better than you think
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[SPEAKER_00]: yeah i mean you got you got your guy here i feel like you know you did them you did them the solid a signing a matter at a japan you have a success here yeah i would he want to leave yeah it seems like the vibes are good you know maybe come if you know you can maybe wait and
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[SPEAKER_00]: see what kind of offers you get for him, but I can't imagine offers would be better than potentially just extending him a couple of years and you know you're not looking at a super star anything but you're looking at a picture who can give you you know a three to three and a half year a hundred fifty to hundred seventy innings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you got to take that if that's the case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So very interested to see what they do with Griffin here in a few months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, agreed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something we're going to want to watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just to play a little bit of a double's ad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you do extend them for call two years, whatever, and he sustains like
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[SPEAKER_01]: average to above average production, like low three ERA, still incredibly valuable, especially these pitching, you know, stays healthy 150 to 170 in East.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's always next year's deadline, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you, that's like, to feel like, oh, all of a sudden he has a year under his belt of sustained production, now the offers look pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, trade them in, who cares?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're not going to get that shot unless you extend them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I like the idea of extending him right now, which is crazy, but, you know, it's nice to have one of these deals pay an out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it just feels like it's an attainable money dollar value.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't doesn't seem like he's going to certainly not pay anyone else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: True, but yeah, he's not probably not going to be a guy that commands 20 to 25 million, no matter how good he pitches just because he's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: not going to dominate you, but yeah, no, it's definitely something they should consider.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like this for an office will consider that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Agreed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's shift gears a little bit and just kind of talk about the Nats defense before we kind of take a step back and talk about the roster in general.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're leaving league in errors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the roster is built with a lot of utility players, a lot of positional versatility, which is a good thing, right in terms of mixing and matching coverage and case guys get hurt or guys are slumping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And especially the way you tear a likes to use all 26 guys off the bench, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can kind of mix and match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't always have to sit like the second baseman, if you want to get your VVOS in, and you can play third, you can play elsewhere, yeah, I suppose they tend to play some outfield, not necessarily, it's what they want to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just saying because of the positional for his utility, you know, they've been able to get a lot of guys in in different spots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, it's hard to be even average defensively at multiple positions, let alone one position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that has contributed to some of the defensive woes when guys are constantly moving around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you have guys like CJ who plays every day and still not good at defense, like that's a different thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We knew coming into the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: James Wood in Lyle struggling defensively, although Wood has looked much more comfortable and right field than he ever did in left field, which is a good sign he made some great catches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was the met series in particular where he robbed Soto and then makes a time and catch later in the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's good to see, but overall like the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could tell defenses important to them, but I, I just, I don't know that this team is a good defensive team, even when they're at their best, because again, CJ.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's call it, well, he's just not a short stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he can be an average defensive second baseman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I also understand why they're not moving him because what no matter what they say publicly, but I also think they they've been pretty transparent about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they've listened to offers on CJ, but CJ has more value as a trade option when he's a short stop out of second baseman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, even though teams trading for CJ kind of understand that
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, more of a second basement, even maybe an Alphaylor, more than a short stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to pay the short stop price if you're going to trade for CJ Abrams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Nats know that they don't necessarily have playoff expectations this year, so they can let CJ ride our short stop, but again, not helping the defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you get to Brady House who has all the tools and the making is to be a great defender, but just has not put it together defensively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This year is kind of taking a step back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not playing every day at third base, which could contribute to it, but again, some of these plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he just needs to make him, he would probably even say that as well with the one in game two can suppress, it's play that needs to be made.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nune as Lyle would sometimes like we mentioned, they're, they're positive, but again, overall it's not enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Louis Garcia has looked bad at first base, he's just not a good defender either catching framing has been better, but I think our catching defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is not great, which it's positioned you can get a lot out of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a really premier defensive catcher to ask, you know, the giants or as tigers, how they're how they're feeling about their their catchers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ask Austin hedges.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You still has a job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: While he had three hits the other day, he did that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two doubles an hour.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's like, you know, I've had three hits nine times in the career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I'm nasty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not really like him, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, it is what it is with this defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, Brady House is really the first one like that my mind goes to because it's, it's just the simple play that he's not making.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll make a play and it'll be like a wow play like he'll dive on a ball that he would never expect to get to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he has to think about it, I think, is when he starts
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know exactly what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he booted one that that error that we were talking about that was a pretty routine play and it seems like he got in between like he was thinking too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just I feel like he kind of feels like a guy who needs a little confidence boost in general sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like even after the grand slam he didn't really look all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did work really easy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My spot will more day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not like a, you know, maybe that has to do with not playing all every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he needs to be one of those guys that does play every day to really get the most out of him we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still believe that he can be a good defender.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really, he has all the tools like he said to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the arm strength, he's got the range, it's just the decision-making and making the simple plays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's dropped some pop-ups this year, balls right at him, not caught, that's not like no matter how many great amazing web gems you make if you don't make those plays, it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and yeah, I think I think you're right about what you're saying about CJ and shortstop if we're not if we're if he's going to be a guy that has the potential to be traded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably going to play shortstop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If it gets to a point where they somehow maybe got an extension done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you probably consider moving him over to second base when he's like there he's locked up for the long term.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he wants to be paid as a shortstop not a second base minority.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true, especially when he hasn't moved yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can hit the way he hits, you can kind of accept it because even a poor up the middle defender is still normally better than most of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get 300 with Damia 30 plus bombs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is where he's been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll take that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is kind of where he's head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the bat has maintained.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't quite as good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As his start of the season over the past two weeks, but he still had a like a I think he had a little skid there like a three for 30 and he immediately is broken right out of that in the in the Matt series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was definitely the best player offensively versus the brewers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's it's something that's definitely a future discussion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I see you type in up there on the next section have no idea what you're talking about putting your boy in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see you, yeah, we'll talk about him, but yeah, no, I think he's going to stick a short stop for now, but yeah, it's if you do end up somehow getting an extension off with them, then you can consider moving his position for the long term.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that goes back to what we're saying about the roster and how it was built, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They, we talked about this before, but they kept a lot of the carryover more carryovers from last year than I anticipated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they were really gonna got this roster and bring in guys that they liked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to the credit, they're kind of seeing what they have, like a guy like Jose Tena, seeing like, like it was probably the biggest shock of anyone on the roster to see him make the opening date roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but they're giving people chances and letting take a young play every day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so on and so on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But...
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're using every spot in the roster, which I like and I can appreciate, but it seems like there's a little bit of redundancy, both in the bullpen and off the bench.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and he's a great bass runner, great defender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even though his average and OPS won't ever be that great, like he does enough well, that you can kind of see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would prefer him to be more of like the fifth in field or so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Spell CJ Spell the second baseman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have someone with third bass versatility, like he can
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[SPEAKER_01]: sort of spell Brady House right go play second while the second way is in play starts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, it seemed like he's kind of penciled in as our starting second basement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like Dorma Viva, Jose Tena, you know, you have your first baseball tune.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like you're using all these guys, but it seems like you're not getting the most out of the position either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's how they want to play it, but it's just like, what are you leaving on the table by not playing someone every day or not taking a shot on, you know, one of these guys in AAA or in the miners that are absolutely raking like a Yoyo Morales seems like he needs to be up soon rather than later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How would you not want to see what you have in AB Ortiz who you got in the McKinsey Ordeal?
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[SPEAKER_01]: why not give him a shot to see what he can do at first base, you know, Dylan Cruz finally seems to turn a corner and while I'm anxious and eager to see him back at the major league level, we don't want to rush it, but at the same time, I just don't think Jacob Young is in every day player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stephens has taken a step back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His offense has regressed to what we know, it typically
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not an accurate, so, you know, at what point are we going to start to see some of these moves we made, you know, Andrew Pinkface and other intriguing option for the Alfield, if Joey Weaver who is, you know, is overall still been doing fine, but if he ever stops hitting lefties, then he doesn't really provide much value to the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But silver kings the big one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was that was the name that I mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was typing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's absolutely raking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was my guy that I kind of highlighted in the offseason granted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's only in double a right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the lot to move would be to let him play a significant amount of time and triple a. I highly highly doubt they would ever pull a microzo and throw him directly to the majors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think especially he's a good enough defender where if they want to just like let him figure it out the major league level he could get by but I think triple ways probably the the most logical step so just like the way the rosers constructed is not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: not great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I get it because they're just kind of trying to see what they have and hopefully as we get into like June, you know, we're going to start seeing some of these guys who continue to get chances, just run out of chances and get different guys in here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mentioned the bullpen in the relievers like I actually do like Brad Lord and initial parker being this kind of long relief role that they've been doing and despite some bad adding, more often not they've been pretty good, but if you continually have to open for both,
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[SPEAKER_01]: megalis and let's tell, like your bullpen just going to be fried, you know, if they continually have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think at some point we need to see, you know, Alvarez or Cornelio or, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it seems like the plan with Alvarez is that they want him to eventually be a starter because they came up and had a great long relief outing and then they sent him back down, but he's only been starting in AAA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that seems to be, they want him to be a starter, so that if we have a trade or somebody gets DFA at halfway through the season that he comes in and takes that spot potentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that seems to be the case with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cornelio is interesting because
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, his pitch mix isn't necessarily that of a starter, but he's only really started in the minor leagues, which was another thing that I was kind of confused when he came in out of the bullpen for his first outing because he's never done it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He really hasn't done much bullpen work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so it's, I'm, I'm interested to see what they end up doing if they try and get them to throw some of his secondary pitches a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, become a starter or if they wanted to focus on that forcing fastball, slider combo and then be a reliever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's multiple ways that they could, they could play that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I didn't, I didn't include Sever King because I was thinking AAA to the bigs, but yes, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would not be surprised that he gets the call up to AAA very soon because he is absolutely raking right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which the same could be said about Harry Ford, but he is off to a pretty miserably slow start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can we just not get a catcher that doesn't suck?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's really really he's he's going to be okay still young guy, but just with the way our catchers are playing right now It would have been nice if he got off to a hot start and we could have been looking forward to him coming up soon, but it looks like it's going to be a little bit longer with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, crews are starting to get it going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm agreeing with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want them to be called up yet, because for me specifically, it's the K-rate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the biggest concern because you're still striking out too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But...
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[SPEAKER_00]: He homer today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Clear the week of the last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been hitting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been hitting the ball real hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at some of the exit velocities on his hits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most of them are Hundee's minimum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a great sign, but yeah, he's got to cut the K right down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in Triple A, he's got to cut the K right down at least to 20% because you can pretty much add 5% at the big league level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a 25 is bad, but, you know, just doable a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just ask James Wood, who's at 30% and he knows if he's doing all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, and I'm, I think we're getting to the point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not maybe not quite there yet, but maybe by the end of this month, we're getting to the point where we're going to see
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know some guys on the actual like some of the actual position players who have been on the team since opening day start to get shuffled in and out because some of these guys are playing too well like yo yo's got a 917 OPS start the A7 330 like I feel like
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can sustain that for a couple more weeks, you got at least consider moving them up, playing them in that DH spot, because we don't have a true DH right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty much just been a rotation center.
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[SPEAKER_00]: García, Tena, Mead, House sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you combine all the numbers together, it's not a very good DH.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely something to consider, especially if we're not going to be a great defensive team.
53:46.126 --> 53:49.351
[SPEAKER_00]: then we definitely need some fun to make up for it.
53:49.531 --> 54:00.868
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so, you know, a true set and forget DH would be great to have whether that video or Abby Ortiz, who I believe exited today with an injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was some speculation that he came out of the game because he was being called up to replace Garcia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: who also injured his wrist today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this it actually might be like provide a natural opportunity for Ortiz or Morales or I don't I don't know off the top I guess I can look right now.
54:22.462 --> 54:28.114
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm literally staring at a computer what the the Nats 40 man is and who's on it and who's not.
54:29.782 --> 54:33.247
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I did not see that he hurt himself.
54:33.407 --> 54:34.809
[SPEAKER_00]: So what do we think?
54:34.909 --> 54:45.504
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it was that a, yeah, he's getting an MRI tomorrow being Monday, uh, you tear said it was on the swing, not anything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not necessarily saying it's a, uh,
54:51.145 --> 54:57.535
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll stint, but it is something to watch, especially since we're already kind of discussing potential options.
54:57.935 --> 55:09.192
[SPEAKER_01]: Ortiz is on the 40-man roster, so it seems like he would be potentially the first one, but at the same time, Choppero has been up and down a couple of times.
55:09.233 --> 55:20.089
[SPEAKER_01]: They even call that Choppero for one game when they thought they could use another ready off the bench against Lefty, I think it was in the White Talk series, so that was kind
55:20.693 --> 55:38.398
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of thinking ahead of what might we want this particular game and they'll do it right they're not they're not shy about making a transaction even if I don't even remember if you played that game, but yeah it was kind of cool to see them think ahead and not.
55:38.868 --> 55:39.730
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, not be shot.
55:39.750 --> 55:45.960
[SPEAKER_00]: So playing a win every game right now, which is how they should be approaching it until further notice, until we're really out of it.
55:46.722 --> 55:46.902
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
55:47.283 --> 55:48.124
[SPEAKER_00]: It's win every day.
55:48.365 --> 55:50.048
[SPEAKER_01]: But Abbey Ortiz is a lefty.
55:50.068 --> 55:59.965
[SPEAKER_01]: So if Garcia is the one that hits the shelf then Ortiz might be the one that, you know, they want to see being a lefty bat to platoon with meat potentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think the last thing I would really say about that is Morales is overall the better numbers, but Ortiz, like you said, he fits the platoon if they wanted really stick with the platoon, he would make a little bit more sense to fill in for Garcia if he hits the injured list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or you could call him up both and really go for the thump in the line up, but that would be pretty cool.
56:27.097 --> 56:34.765
[SPEAKER_00]: I think at some point, you're going to have to give YoYo a shot no matter what because he's continued to improve every year and, you know, he's only 24.
56:34.845 --> 56:43.095
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's still, he's still a part of this potentially in the future because of his age.
56:43.155 --> 56:45.818
[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely curious to see what they end up doing with him.
56:46.278 --> 56:48.280
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, we have time.
56:48.721 --> 56:50.623
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't take anything similar.
56:50.688 --> 56:58.588
[SPEAKER_01]: pending injury, but like between vivas, tena, nuneas, and Garcia, like, who do you think should say it who should go?
56:59.108 --> 57:27.968
[SPEAKER_00]: like you get to keep to cut to keep to cut to yeah okay if it's that then I'm probably to me is very easy I'm keeping new news because he's such a versatile player and he's able to play such great defense he made a play today that there's very few second baseman that gets to the ball that he got to he leaves the league installing bases which is really nice on he's getting on base like enough
57:28.454 --> 57:38.853
[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, it's just the black of any slug is really the problem and it's like he and VVus are very similar and VVus is just not he's not as fast he's not as good as a defender.
57:38.953 --> 57:43.020
[SPEAKER_00]: So between those two, I'm probably taking new news over VVus, I think.
57:45.818 --> 57:48.322
[SPEAKER_00]: I've hitched my wagon to Garcia for so long.
57:48.382 --> 57:53.511
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I have to say it to give him another few weeks and say 10 us should be.
57:53.531 --> 57:55.615
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's more of an emotional pick.
57:55.655 --> 57:59.481
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I can't really point to a number that says that that should be the case.
57:59.541 --> 58:03.388
[SPEAKER_00]: But I've always been on the Garcia train and I like him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to say,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would keep Garcia and New News.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But honestly, we're probably only, if it's three, if we're keeping three, I'm just gonna send Viva's down because of the way he's been really bad the last few weeks, just pretty much on all sides of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I would say one of those guys needs to be sent down for a potential power bat.
58:33.085 --> 58:33.766
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
58:33.806 --> 58:36.289
[SPEAKER_01]: I think in my mind, Tena is the obvious one.
58:36.349 --> 58:38.252
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't feel like he has a set role.
58:38.292 --> 58:40.355
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's had some bigger hits.
58:41.356 --> 58:44.320
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he has of those three vivas, Tena and Nuneas.
58:44.340 --> 58:47.665
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's the thumper, so to speak, but he's not particularly good at it.
58:48.526 --> 58:55.435
[SPEAKER_01]: His K-rights still very, very high and it's not like a James Wood where you'll take the good with the bad.
58:55.756 --> 58:55.956
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
58:55.976 --> 58:57.358
[SPEAKER_01]: There's not much good with Tena.
58:58.059 --> 59:01.303
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't see his his role.
59:01.908 --> 59:03.810
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't see much value he provides his team.
59:03.830 --> 59:07.514
[SPEAKER_01]: Nune as someone I've always been low on, but he's done enough.
59:07.775 --> 59:17.566
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we always known he was a good defender, but it's particularly defensively and you mentioned the base running where it's just like, okay, well, that's where you'll take the good with bad, right?
59:17.626 --> 59:21.710
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Viva's, it's not like I necessarily want to keep him.
59:21.730 --> 59:26.616
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, he kind of falls into that 10 Academy or three where it's just like,
59:26.596 --> 59:35.009
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, he doesn't really do anything particularly well, but he has some positional versatility where I can see where they would want to keep someone like that.
59:35.029 --> 59:48.129
[SPEAKER_01]: To me, I hate to say because I think he has the most value of the forewear, maybe instead of cutting him, you trade him, but I just think Luis Garcia experiment is like over and done with.
59:48.630 --> 59:53.177
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand the metrics, I understand, but you know,
59:53.427 --> 59:59.398
[SPEAKER_01]: GM, there's like a funny GM saying where a potential will get you fired like that's kind of how I feel he's scared to see it.
59:59.418 --> 01:00:07.793
[SPEAKER_01]: We're always talking about the potential and I know he put together like a three worst season not too long ago and he can be better but he's an awful defender.
01:00:07.833 --> 01:00:14.946
[SPEAKER_01]: He's already plattuning and he's getting out performed in the plattune like it's just
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:41.052
[SPEAKER_01]: at what point are we just going to say enough is enough with him like I was on board with he was rushed the the majors he came up when he was like 19 in the covid season and all stuff and he's only played parts of like three seasons at one point and never played a full season and then and then and then and then just like all right now he's moving first base he's learning first base it's okay all right he's learning first base when does it end
01:00:41.032 --> 01:00:44.398
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just kind of how that's how I feel about it.
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:55.358
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just I'm not saying cut him just to cut him like if you're just straight up like hey we need to clear a spot for Yoyo Morales or whatever.
01:00:55.378 --> 01:01:01.048
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not the not the guy you cut you cut a 10 or you kind of leave us or move down whatever.
01:01:01.028 --> 01:01:14.147
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not saying that, but I don't think he's in that CJ Brady House certainly not the James Wood conversation where he's a guy like who's safe, so to speak.
01:01:14.627 --> 01:01:18.132
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I think he's very much in that.
01:01:18.413 --> 01:01:18.713
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
01:01:18.813 --> 01:01:22.479
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's look at all of our options conversation with the best tenant in.
01:01:22.499 --> 01:01:24.842
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, I think I'm.
01:01:25.919 --> 01:01:34.702
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's running out of time, even for me, and I've been a pretty staunch defender of Louis over the past few years, even last year when he was not having the best season.
01:01:34.742 --> 01:01:37.650
[SPEAKER_00]: I was really holding on to the...
01:01:37.985 --> 01:01:44.856
[SPEAKER_00]: the metrics and the the exit velocities and you still hit the ball pretty hard, but at a certain point when you're bashing everything into the dirt doesn't really matter.
01:01:44.896 --> 01:01:45.698
[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
01:01:45.718 --> 01:01:48.803
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so, yeah, it's almost getting there.
01:01:48.843 --> 01:01:52.349
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I have a little bit longer of a least than most people probably do with him.
01:01:52.389 --> 01:01:56.736
[SPEAKER_00]: I probably give him to, you know, June mid-June and if he really hasn't gotten a gun.
01:01:57.307 --> 01:01:59.710
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of have to consider another option there.
01:02:00.171 --> 01:02:05.457
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say, the one thing he has done really well is that he's hit well with runners on base.
01:02:06.298 --> 01:02:10.303
[SPEAKER_00]: He's, I believe, oh, passing around 800, this year with runners on base.
01:02:10.323 --> 01:02:13.868
[SPEAKER_00]: But then you go and look at how he hits with the bases empty.
01:02:13.888 --> 01:02:19.194
[SPEAKER_00]: I think certain, certain points, hitting with the base is empty is just important.
01:02:19.214 --> 01:02:21.217
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to be able to set the table for the guys behind you.
01:02:21.537 --> 01:02:26.824
[SPEAKER_00]: And his WRC plus with the bases empty this year is nine.
01:02:27.445 --> 01:02:27.786
[SPEAKER_00]: cool.
01:02:28.046 --> 01:02:28.788
[SPEAKER_00]: That can't happen.
01:02:28.948 --> 01:02:29.991
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that just can't happen.
01:02:30.111 --> 01:02:36.024
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you can be a little bit better in one scenario or the other, but like, so I was going to change with you.
01:02:36.044 --> 01:02:36.665
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a approach.
01:02:36.926 --> 01:02:38.389
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what that tells me.
01:02:38.710 --> 01:02:42.859
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a huge difference in approach and a huge difference in his walk and and K rate.
01:02:43.259 --> 01:02:45.825
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, it's almost like he doesn't lock it in.
01:02:45.991 --> 01:02:48.916
[SPEAKER_00]: in the, in the, in the, uh, basis empty cent scenarios.
01:02:48.957 --> 01:02:49.498
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's got it.
01:02:49.538 --> 01:03:00.678
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to start locking in in those situations and getting on base to count if you if you can start doing that and and continue to maintain with with runners on base.
01:03:00.699 --> 01:03:05.067
[SPEAKER_00]: He can still have a chance to be a positive contributor to the team, but it's, he's running out of time.
01:03:05.107 --> 01:03:06.008
[SPEAKER_00]: He's running out of options.
01:03:07.411 --> 01:03:08.453
[SPEAKER_00]: Need is looked better than him.
01:03:08.714 --> 01:03:09.535
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
01:03:09.903 --> 01:03:13.231
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what point do you consider me just playing every day?
01:03:13.792 --> 01:03:19.526
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you don't feel like you want to call someone up yet, that could potentially be an option as well.
01:03:19.907 --> 01:03:21.291
[SPEAKER_00]: Just to see what he's got against rightes.
01:03:21.311 --> 01:03:22.293
[SPEAKER_00]: We know we can hit lefties.
01:03:22.975 --> 01:03:28.047
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hit righties sometimes this year, but he hasn't really had that many opportunities to hit against them.
01:03:28.027 --> 01:03:38.506
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, there's there's options of what to do, but I definitely think they they want to play and they want to give them a chance to show what he's got because like you said They didn't want to come in here and just got the whole roster.
01:03:38.526 --> 01:03:47.362
[SPEAKER_00]: They wanted to really get a first person look and see Which guys are worth sticking around for the future and I'm just at this point not sure.
01:03:47.382 --> 01:03:49.225
[SPEAKER_00]: Garcia is one of those guys
01:03:49.846 --> 01:03:56.792
[SPEAKER_00]: agreed so we'll see because I really like them and I think he's a nice guy, but it's just production production is king.
01:03:57.332 --> 01:03:58.293
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 100%.
01:03:58.954 --> 01:04:06.080
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see, you know, we'll we'll see if this injury leads to not that we're rooting for it and the sound I'm saying.
01:04:06.180 --> 01:04:19.431
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, with injury, I provide opportunity to see what else might be out there in there in terms of in our system that could be better than what we currently have.
01:04:19.411 --> 01:04:28.730
[SPEAKER_01]: and weeks play out for not just Luis Garcia, but the whole and that's roster because they have showed, particularly with the bullpen, they're not afraid to make moves.
01:04:29.853 --> 01:04:32.137
[SPEAKER_01]: So that that's a good and encouraging sign.
01:04:32.739 --> 01:04:40.575
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a day off on Monday, but they host the twins for a three-game set midweek or a neck or a
01:04:40.555 --> 01:04:54.565
[SPEAKER_01]: on Tuesday and then they take a trip down to Miami for a series of the marlins before another day off, rare two days off and eight days, um, a rare two day, or I just said that.
01:04:55.203 --> 01:04:56.785
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, I'm stumbling over something.
01:04:56.805 --> 01:04:57.666
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sick right now.
01:04:57.786 --> 01:04:59.749
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure you guys can tell by my boy.
01:04:59.769 --> 01:05:01.751
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm now Head fog is kicking in.
01:05:01.831 --> 01:05:03.653
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, head fog is very much kicking in.
01:05:03.714 --> 01:05:10.722
[SPEAKER_01]: I literally just repeated the same sentence that I had just said so great podcasting trip to trip to Miami.
01:05:11.063 --> 01:05:21.075
[SPEAKER_01]: Day off trip to Cincinnati for three games out the reds who I believe are still leading the NFL Central Which is a little bit of surprised me and then back home to face the warriors for a big set
01:05:21.055 --> 01:05:22.283
[SPEAKER_01]: in mid May.
01:05:22.343 --> 01:05:27.336
[SPEAKER_01]: Another kind of funky stat, the Natsur 12 and 7 on the road, 4 and 12 at home.
01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:35.230
[SPEAKER_00]: What's kind of been their MMO over the past few seasons, I feel like they've just not been very good at home, which is, it's a problem.
01:05:35.250 --> 01:05:36.532
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to take care of business at home.
01:05:36.812 --> 01:05:49.431
[SPEAKER_00]: To be fair, the teams that have been at some plate at home this year, Dodger, Braves, Cardinals, who are like 21 and 14 right now, so they've been really good, and the brewer's playing like the brewers should be playing.
01:05:50.412 --> 01:05:54.178
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, there's some leeway there, and the giants were the other one.
01:05:54.198 --> 01:05:57.643
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the series that where they really should have won.
01:05:57.623 --> 01:06:04.074
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, we'll give them a little bit of leeway for that if they can come out and beat the twins who they need it.
01:06:04.134 --> 01:06:08.581
[SPEAKER_00]: This is another series, like this is one of the few series so far this year where you look at and you say, we should win.
01:06:08.862 --> 01:06:09.803
[SPEAKER_00]: We should win that series.
01:06:10.204 --> 01:06:16.054
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not playing well and we're probably overall playing better than them coming into the series.
01:06:16.294 --> 01:06:17.036
[SPEAKER_00]: They're three and seven.
01:06:17.056 --> 01:06:18.177
[SPEAKER_00]: They're last 10 and two of those wins.
01:06:18.198 --> 01:06:18.819
[SPEAKER_00]: We're against the Metz.
01:06:19.299 --> 01:06:22.645
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that is, wins and gets the Metz don't count right.
01:06:23.046 --> 01:06:23.867
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you come on.
01:06:23.999 --> 01:06:27.769
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so that should be able to win this series at home.
01:06:28.591 --> 01:06:29.213
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
01:06:29.794 --> 01:06:32.361
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, before we get out of here, let's take a trip around the league.
01:06:33.344 --> 01:06:34.988
[SPEAKER_01]: The razor doing that thing and try.
01:06:36.858 --> 01:06:39.943
[SPEAKER_01]: they are doing that thing again, what are your thoughts there?
01:06:40.504 --> 01:06:42.607
[SPEAKER_00]: My thoughts are that I've been looking at the numbers.
01:06:42.707 --> 01:06:50.659
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't figure out exactly how it's working because none of the team statistics add up to a 21 and 12 record, but that's where they are right now.
01:06:51.961 --> 01:06:55.006
[SPEAKER_00]: You can put it on the back of Yaddi Diaz who's one of my favorite players.
01:06:55.046 --> 01:06:59.473
[SPEAKER_00]: One of our favorite players, I would say, pulled to general.
01:06:59.453 --> 01:07:02.757
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he basically is bucked that trend.
01:07:02.777 --> 01:07:04.319
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just like, I'm going to hit it.
01:07:04.459 --> 01:07:05.440
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to hit it the other way.
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:06.221
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.
01:07:06.261 --> 01:07:10.986
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to hit it in the right center field gap every time and there's nothing you can do about it.
01:07:11.807 --> 01:07:15.411
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like a perfect coaches hitter, right?
01:07:15.451 --> 01:07:23.861
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like great eye to play really patient hits for average, hits the ball the other way, and he hits for power gap to gap.
01:07:23.921 --> 01:07:26.524
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like exactly how you would teach a hitter to hit.
01:07:26.504 --> 01:07:28.888
[SPEAKER_00]: like he's staying up the middle the other way is hitting gaps.
01:07:29.028 --> 01:07:29.709
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he does.
01:07:30.270 --> 01:07:31.752
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he's done for a long time.
01:07:31.792 --> 01:07:35.198
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he's honestly one of the most underrated hitters over the past five years.
01:07:36.179 --> 01:07:37.582
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe even beyond that at this point.
01:07:38.563 --> 01:07:41.768
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, and they're starting pitching as it has been pretty good.
01:07:41.808 --> 01:07:44.112
[SPEAKER_00]: Shane McLean, a hands-back healthy, which is really great to see.
01:07:44.132 --> 01:07:45.194
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a tough road for him.
01:07:45.234 --> 01:07:48.219
[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really hope he can pitch a full season or at least close to it.
01:07:49.060 --> 01:07:50.402
[SPEAKER_00]: Drew Rasmussen.
01:07:50.382 --> 01:07:52.465
[SPEAKER_00]: has been pretty elite for them as well.
01:07:52.565 --> 01:07:59.454
[SPEAKER_00]: So Nick Anderson as well, I bet that was just a random signing, you know, that's, that's the race right there, man.
01:07:59.635 --> 01:08:06.484
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the race doing their thing again, which is picking up a one-year deal and turning him into a guy with a 1.70 hour on the season.
01:08:06.524 --> 01:08:08.106
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what are you going to do?
01:08:08.126 --> 01:08:12.492
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's going to last, but it's really cool to see so far that they're kind of doing that thing again.
01:08:12.893 --> 01:08:13.193
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
01:08:13.434 --> 01:08:13.714
[SPEAKER_01]: Agreed.
01:08:14.335 --> 01:08:15.257
[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned the Cardinals.
01:08:15.898 --> 01:08:28.659
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe their office is going to start because they are they are 20 and 14 tied in second tied for second with the reds who dropped down the second the cups are now in first place in the NL Central at 22 in 12 record.
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:36.572
[SPEAKER_01]: But the entire NL Central is above 500 which is kind of nuts because it's not ready for that in many people's minds.
01:08:36.692 --> 01:08:37.433
[SPEAKER_01]: It's
01:08:37.413 --> 01:08:53.127
[SPEAKER_01]: If you were to rank the divisions, it's probably second to last behind the, or in front of the AL central, but yeah, they're, you know, just by sheer record, winning percentage to probably the best team, or sorry, the best division in baseball right now.
01:08:53.377 --> 01:09:11.115
[SPEAKER_01]: The Cardinals, while it's a good story and you know, they were one of those teams for so long that refused to give in, like they were trying to run it back with a roster that was not capable of doing so and finally kind of relented this past year, it is cool to see Jordan walkers come back has been.
01:09:11.095 --> 01:09:12.237
[SPEAKER_01]: otherworldly.
01:09:12.958 --> 01:09:15.282
[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the best players in baseball so far this year.
01:09:15.322 --> 01:09:35.213
[SPEAKER_01]: I tend to think that it's not for real that they'll fall, but it doesn't mean they'll fall to the depths of the nationals the past couple years or the pirates or the Rockies or anything like that, but I mean even the Rockies are doing better than they historically have been in recent seasons, but
01:09:35.193 --> 01:09:42.422
[SPEAKER_01]: point being, I don't see the cardinals as a team of about 500, but regardless, it's good start and should be encouraging to cardinals fans.
01:09:43.183 --> 01:09:44.184
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not sure they're pitching.
01:09:44.204 --> 01:09:44.845
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to hold up.
01:09:44.905 --> 01:09:49.270
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's the main concern, but the young offense, young hitters.
01:09:49.310 --> 01:09:53.014
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Walker, Weatherhold, Mason Wins, starting to hit a little bit too.
01:09:53.094 --> 01:09:55.117
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's something Alec Burlison's a good hitter.
01:09:56.078 --> 01:09:56.839
[SPEAKER_00]: They can hit a little bit.
01:09:57.059 --> 01:10:04.508
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that's that part might sustain a little bit, but yeah, the pitching is not going to
01:10:05.315 --> 01:10:11.621
[SPEAKER_00]: to hang, I mean, their bullpin has been really good, but actually, you know, their starting pitching has been really good, sorry.
01:10:12.142 --> 01:10:13.783
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not sure that that's going to sustain.
01:10:13.843 --> 01:10:16.666
[SPEAKER_00]: I could say, you know, 500, maybe, maybe they could get to that.
01:10:16.726 --> 01:10:22.992
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that speeds up their timeline a little bit, maybe they go out and try and sign some pictures and to support that young group.
01:10:23.012 --> 01:10:27.897
[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, like we've seen with the Nats, there's going to be a regression of the main at some point.
01:10:28.337 --> 01:10:29.959
[SPEAKER_00]: It happens with every team, even good teams.
01:10:30.299 --> 01:10:31.120
[SPEAKER_00]: So
01:10:31.100 --> 01:10:47.353
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, I'm not sure that this is going to be, we're not probably not going to be talking about them having a winning record in a couple months, but good start for them in their new rebuilding era, uh, definitely doesn't feel like a rebuild when you're 2014, but that's probably where it's going to end up going.
01:10:47.333 --> 01:10:49.336
[SPEAKER_00]: Then the next topic is an interesting one.
01:10:49.376 --> 01:10:54.583
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious to hear what you think about this guy, but the doctors have a little bit of a villain, finally.
01:10:54.603 --> 01:11:03.354
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say that despite being the villain of the league, just because of their roster and how it's built, there's no one to hate.
01:11:03.895 --> 01:11:04.876
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not too many.
01:11:04.936 --> 01:11:12.045
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who could you really say, I don't know, but now, don't worry.
01:11:12.065 --> 01:11:15.650
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, super likeable mookybet, super likeable.
01:11:15.690 --> 01:11:16.311
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:11:16.443 --> 01:11:33.388
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the tony obviously is like a lot of things existence yeah but yet all rushing is seem to take and take in the uh... bill and mantle dotures uh... just being kind of a prick just in general uh... yeah it's perfect way to put it he's just like he's kind of an asshole about everything
01:11:33.368 --> 01:11:36.152
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's really fun.
01:11:36.272 --> 01:11:39.896
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like chill that I'm also like, you know what it's good for baseball It's good.
01:11:40.337 --> 01:12:02.245
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably fine and like you don't have to be a nice guy to be a good player Which is he's been a good player this year and he's definitely not been a nice guy There's plenty of championship teams that were guys you know didn't get along or there was one guy that was kind of an asshole It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of winning So I guess it gives him a little bit of an edge
01:12:03.592 --> 01:12:08.364
[SPEAKER_00]: more more so it gives all of us an actual reason to really not like the team.
01:12:08.925 --> 01:12:09.847
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.
01:12:10.769 --> 01:12:21.415
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, I'm just interested to see if you can tin use or if maybe some of the veterans in that clubhouse kind of sit them down and be like, hey, you know, we like the fire, but you got to chill a little bit bro.
01:12:22.002 --> 01:12:23.464
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm curious to see how they handle it.
01:12:23.484 --> 01:12:25.907
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they let them keep going because they're the Dodgers.
01:12:25.967 --> 01:12:26.648
[SPEAKER_00]: I can do what they want.
01:12:26.728 --> 01:12:31.955
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he's been then kind of prick, which is interesting.
01:12:32.376 --> 01:12:41.788
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I don't know, I think they it's kind of continues if I had to guess, but I don't hate it.
01:12:41.948 --> 01:12:44.972
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate him, but I don't hate it.
01:12:45.745 --> 01:12:55.559
[SPEAKER_01]: The next topic is the Braves Best Arts since 1892 when they were the Boston being eaters at 25 and 10, which is what a name for a franchise.
01:12:57.121 --> 01:13:00.285
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they are at the top of the NL East at 25 and 10.
01:13:00.465 --> 01:13:06.614
[SPEAKER_01]: They're eight and a half up on the second place, Marlins, who everyone predicted would be in second place entering May.
01:13:06.934 --> 01:13:15.246
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really great to be sure to cut you off, but it's really great to look at the standings right now and see New York and Philadelphia underneath us.
01:13:15.395 --> 01:13:23.808
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to I'm going to enjoy that for as long as that lasts right and we'll talk about that here in a minute, but yeah, the Braves look really good.
01:13:23.908 --> 01:13:34.724
[SPEAKER_01]: The pitching was a big question mark entering the year, but so far they've been managing to to get get by Bricellers been one of the best pitchers in baseball early on.
01:13:35.205 --> 01:13:43.798
[SPEAKER_01]: This season has kind of stayed to help stabilize that rotation.
01:13:43.778 --> 01:13:46.566
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, recently with the hamstring, so.
01:13:46.715 --> 01:13:48.377
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if they can survive that.
01:13:48.437 --> 01:13:51.942
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of been a bugaboo in the past, although they did it with no world series without him.
01:13:52.002 --> 01:13:57.969
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, people are saying, is this the key to the braves going and winning another world series?
01:13:58.049 --> 01:14:01.173
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know how you want to get involved and that doesn't go.
01:14:01.193 --> 01:14:10.425
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, yeah, obviously terrible for the braves, not that I feel bad for them, but terrible for the braves to see Ronald Kunia go down with another injury.
01:14:10.445 --> 01:14:14.730
[SPEAKER_01]: He was trying to hustle a first base and hamstring just gave out on him.
01:14:14.710 --> 01:14:21.518
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how long he's out, but they certainly have a cushion right now in the NLAC and have it up on the Met or they are Marlins.
01:14:22.499 --> 01:14:27.645
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then we move to Hakimura Kami, White Sox, leads the league in homers with 13.
01:14:27.705 --> 01:14:30.649
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been just incredible since he's come over from Japan.
01:14:30.709 --> 01:14:41.241
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's still some concern with the strikeout right with him, but he's got a great eye most lit mostly, and he hits the ball extremely hard when he makes contact.
01:14:41.761 --> 01:14:45.988
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe he had that 13 before April was up.
01:14:46.289 --> 01:14:55.925
[SPEAKER_00]: So if that's true, I mean a 13 Homer month and you're very first month in Major League Baseball, it's probably not happened very often.
01:14:56.025 --> 01:14:58.910
[SPEAKER_00]: I would think, but yeah, he's doing good.
01:14:58.930 --> 01:14:59.992
[SPEAKER_00]: The white socks are doing pretty good.
01:15:00.012 --> 01:15:02.396
[SPEAKER_00]: They actually are around 500 as well.
01:15:02.496 --> 01:15:04.680
[SPEAKER_00]: So good for them, they're starting to play well.
01:15:04.660 --> 01:15:11.529
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the final point here, which we didn't get to discuss last time, I believe it happened almost right after.
01:15:11.549 --> 01:15:18.239
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we posted at least the 401 was the Fireings of both Alex Corps and Rob Thompson.
01:15:19.020 --> 01:15:23.886
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think both are different scenarios for sure.
01:15:24.107 --> 01:15:27.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Good ones got one you have a really young team when you have a veteran team.
01:15:28.553 --> 01:15:31.697
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably still too early in my opinion for both.
01:15:32.234 --> 01:15:35.799
[SPEAKER_00]: uh but Rob Thompson makes more sense to me than Alex score.
01:15:35.819 --> 01:15:36.259
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?
01:15:37.261 --> 01:15:37.661
[SPEAKER_01]: Agreed.
01:15:38.082 --> 01:15:57.567
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, there was a phenomenal quote, uh, that was going around following the Alex core firing and part of my language, but I'm just going to read the quote as as it was, uh, instructed or given, it's like shooting your pants and changing your shirt, uh, which is,
01:15:57.547 --> 01:16:01.016
[SPEAKER_01]: For now, I'm no description of what the Red Tox did.
01:16:01.577 --> 01:16:02.940
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a poorly built team.
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.088
[SPEAKER_01]: It was Brazil's mess.
01:16:07.111 --> 01:16:10.319
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the one that I can't remember who's bloom.
01:16:10.579 --> 01:16:12.484
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bloom that traded moogie bets.
01:16:12.582 --> 01:16:13.423
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe, yeah.
01:16:13.543 --> 01:16:15.246
[SPEAKER_00]: That was like one of the first moves he did.
01:16:15.286 --> 01:16:15.847
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
01:16:15.867 --> 01:16:15.967
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:16:16.368 --> 01:16:19.993
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, like the core, you got to love core.
01:16:20.794 --> 01:16:27.204
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the first thing he actually posted to his Instagram story was how could the Red Sox trade mokey bets?
01:16:27.664 --> 01:16:34.995
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that was, and just so it's such a perfect, perfect, like F. Love reattegerness.
01:16:34.975 --> 01:16:41.628
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in a lot of dysfunction going on in Boston, that's not going to get sort of any time to.
01:16:41.668 --> 01:16:54.452
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Wilson Contreras was saying, oh yeah, it's not easy when games when you have a bunch of young guys that don't have experience with slumps or whatever, then Marcelo Meyer fired back, he's like, it's,
01:16:54.432 --> 01:16:55.574
[SPEAKER_01]: not just the young guys.
01:16:55.634 --> 01:16:58.318
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy to blame the young guys, but it's everyone we're all pros.
01:16:58.838 --> 01:17:00.401
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not good with Ryerson's quite position.
01:17:00.441 --> 01:17:03.726
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have the young guys acting like the vets, vets acting like babies.
01:17:05.308 --> 01:17:18.387
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you fired everybody, including you're one of the the most beloved Boston heroes ever who's now coach Jason Vertech, and then you ask him to stay with franchise, and he gives you the double birds on his way out.
01:17:18.888 --> 01:17:23.815
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not taking a reassigned role.
01:17:24.115 --> 01:17:26.459
[SPEAKER_01]: That was more so scapegoat, right?
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:29.926
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just trying to put the blame on someone.
01:17:29.946 --> 01:17:37.781
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think you even had, I don't know if it was John Henry or who it was, but basically just saying, yeah, Craig said he wanted to do this, so we're going to fire.
01:17:37.861 --> 01:17:45.415
[SPEAKER_01]: But they had the preference conference after a series with the Orioles in front of an Orioles banner, which was hilarious to me.
01:17:45.395 --> 01:17:47.137
[SPEAKER_01]: about the dysfunction of that franchise.
01:17:47.638 --> 01:17:51.203
[SPEAKER_00]: There was, yeah, even since the firing, there's been a couple incidents as well.
01:17:51.763 --> 01:17:53.706
[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Veio had like a temper tantrum.
01:17:53.726 --> 01:17:54.327
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God.
01:17:54.447 --> 01:17:55.208
[SPEAKER_00]: On the mountain.
01:17:55.228 --> 01:17:56.390
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been awful this year.
01:17:56.610 --> 01:17:58.773
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't care how bad you are, dude.
01:17:58.813 --> 01:17:59.494
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do that.
01:18:00.255 --> 01:18:00.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:18:00.795 --> 01:18:03.519
[SPEAKER_00]: That was like my thing with Jorge Lopez when he was on the ass.
01:18:04.120 --> 01:18:06.483
[SPEAKER_00]: Like everyone's telling me, oh, the metrics look as I don't care.
01:18:06.643 --> 01:18:08.065
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't act like that.
01:18:08.325 --> 01:18:10.388
[SPEAKER_00]: Like your professional baseball player act like it, please.
01:18:10.628 --> 01:18:13.673
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't get mad in the dugout, you can't do that on the mound.
01:18:13.793 --> 01:18:14.794
[SPEAKER_00]: That's ridiculous.
01:18:14.774 --> 01:18:17.437
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Rob Thompson agreed.
01:18:17.457 --> 01:18:18.739
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a different scenario.
01:18:18.779 --> 01:18:23.445
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that team was built to win and needed to win.
01:18:23.825 --> 01:18:24.767
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it needs to win.
01:18:24.787 --> 01:18:41.828
[SPEAKER_01]: Because when that era is over and, you know, father times undefeated and it seems like the saxophones are getting real loud up there and filly with that roster, because they're going to have a lot of money due to a lot of players in
01:18:42.415 --> 01:18:44.578
[SPEAKER_01]: 9 and 19 certainly not good enough.
01:18:45.599 --> 01:18:54.311
[SPEAKER_01]: They just had to do something to turn it around and Rob Thompson was not getting the most out of that roster that needed to be better.
01:18:54.451 --> 01:19:04.404
[SPEAKER_01]: So that one I understood, the core one makes no sense, but it was funny that the Philly's immediately reach out to core for the job and core said, no thanks.
01:19:04.424 --> 01:19:06.907
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, eat it Philly.
01:19:08.469 --> 01:19:11.393
[SPEAKER_01]: But the biggest one to me is I can't believe
01:19:11.373 --> 01:19:13.455
[SPEAKER_01]: The methods are still sticking with Carlos Mendoza.
01:19:14.056 --> 01:19:16.078
[SPEAKER_00]: I figured he would have been gone by now too, man.
01:19:16.138 --> 01:19:17.419
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he would have been number one.
01:19:18.040 --> 01:19:26.748
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, like, I feel like, even with Rob Thompson, I get why they fired him, because it makes a lot more sense to me than Korra.
01:19:26.768 --> 01:19:31.533
[SPEAKER_00]: Korra, you have this young team who was better than they were supposed to be last year.
01:19:31.573 --> 01:19:39.000
[SPEAKER_00]: They finally have expectations for the first time as a young team, like that doesn't make sense to me to fire him that quickly.
01:19:39.875 --> 01:19:43.004
[SPEAKER_00]: They're obviously pressing because they know that they're supposed to be good.
01:19:43.084 --> 01:19:44.568
[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty, pretty clear.
01:19:44.949 --> 01:19:54.897
[SPEAKER_00]: With Thompson, it's still a little early for me, but when you have an experience group like that, sometimes they might kind of start going through the motions a little bit, and you got to wake them up.
01:19:54.877 --> 01:20:07.997
[SPEAKER_00]: That might be kind of the point there and it seems to have done so I mean, they've won a few games since then so But I think tree trainer put it pretty well on the broadcast which is like, you know, we got to go out and play better.
01:20:08.057 --> 01:20:16.210
[SPEAKER_00]: It's that simple So that those guys know, you know, as veterans It's not really about the manager as much, but that's kind of that's kind of
01:20:16.426 --> 01:20:29.980
[SPEAKER_00]: The managerial firing on a team like that is basically a shot at the players like you guys got to wake up, especially with a like you said a team that's getting much older and it's going to have a lot of money in players that aren't producing.
01:20:30.095 --> 01:20:30.856
[SPEAKER_00]: going forward.
01:20:30.936 --> 01:20:33.199
[SPEAKER_00]: They have to wake up now and win now.
01:20:33.239 --> 01:20:34.880
[SPEAKER_00]: That's basically their only option.
01:20:36.142 --> 01:20:40.927
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and inventosa, I don't really know how he still has this job.
01:20:40.967 --> 01:20:44.251
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine it'll be much longer though, because they have really not.
01:20:44.591 --> 01:20:47.294
[SPEAKER_00]: They've won the few games, but they really haven't turned it around yet.
01:20:47.935 --> 01:20:49.056
[SPEAKER_00]: That roster is a mess.
01:20:49.397 --> 01:20:50.758
[SPEAKER_01]: And now they're dealing with injuries.
01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:52.961
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a lot of injuries too.
01:20:53.021 --> 01:20:58.347
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's the reason they're, they haven't pulled the trigger yet,
01:20:58.546 --> 01:21:01.249
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be okay, but it's just, it's pilein' up.
01:21:02.230 --> 01:21:04.532
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that roster's really, really bad.
01:21:05.373 --> 01:21:14.202
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously it's one of the most extensive roster's in baseball and it's performing like, worse than the Rockies, right?
01:21:14.522 --> 01:21:16.144
[SPEAKER_00]: The Rockies haven't looked at that bad.
01:21:16.164 --> 01:21:16.985
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's what I'm saying.
01:21:17.625 --> 01:21:19.287
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you're still worse in them.
01:21:20.068 --> 01:21:25.093
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's a mess that could not be more happy about that.
01:21:25.968 --> 01:21:29.072
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, not that we have to spend too much time in the meds.
01:21:29.092 --> 01:21:30.313
[SPEAKER_01]: We can wrap up here.
01:21:30.353 --> 01:21:42.729
[SPEAKER_01]: But I was listening to Ray Hill one night after the Natski amended and it was like just kind of a like sports talk ratio and they just were talking about New York sports with the nicks advancing and whatever.
01:21:43.109 --> 01:21:51.520
[SPEAKER_01]: But they talked about the meds and just how David Serns was like Cohen's guy and would move her to bring him from
01:21:51.500 --> 01:22:08.412
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll walk you, but like nothing the meds have done has allowed turns to operate to his strengths, right, which is what, you know, how, excuse me, how the brewers would operate with not money, bulb, but finding value and things like that.
01:22:09.067 --> 01:22:11.771
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Cohen's base is just like open the checkbook.
01:22:12.352 --> 01:22:14.115
[SPEAKER_01]: He turns as a kid in a candy store.
01:22:14.135 --> 01:22:16.678
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like he's never been exposed to candy before.
01:22:16.698 --> 01:22:21.025
[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden he has, you know, free reign to get whatever candy he wants.
01:22:21.105 --> 01:22:22.888
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's spending money in all the wrong places.
01:22:23.449 --> 01:22:27.094
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, Alonzo and Nemo were flawed players.
01:22:27.314 --> 01:22:28.696
[SPEAKER_01]: But at least he knew you were going to get.
01:22:28.716 --> 01:22:30.860
[SPEAKER_01]: Alonzo was always going to be a power threat.
01:22:31.220 --> 01:22:32.562
[SPEAKER_01]: Nemo was always going to get on base.
01:22:32.943 --> 01:22:34.625
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, again, they had their flaws.
01:22:34.685 --> 01:22:36.508
[SPEAKER_01]: But you should, you,
01:22:36.488 --> 01:22:43.224
[SPEAKER_01]: decide not to pay a lot so you ship out in ammo for options that just are worse quite frankly.
01:22:43.244 --> 01:22:46.452
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, the roster building was not great.
01:22:47.073 --> 01:22:52.827
[SPEAKER_01]: David Sern's just feels like a deadman walking at this point.
01:22:52.807 --> 01:23:10.174
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then the Matt's franchises it is it's the mats which is so good to see Yeah, and Mimo you brought up Nimo Nimo is raking yeah, he's doing really like he is killing it and Lanzo hasn't really gotten going yet for the Oriles, but you know it's common
01:23:10.154 --> 01:23:12.878
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he's gonna hit nearly a prior for you homers.
01:23:12.998 --> 01:23:15.542
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he always does this like he Swumped.
01:23:15.602 --> 01:23:18.707
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was Was in three weeks.
01:23:19.168 --> 01:23:22.473
[SPEAKER_00]: I was definitely thinking way more positively than this for them.
01:23:22.553 --> 01:23:31.046
[SPEAKER_00]: That's because I was I picked him to win the division, but really As mostly because the division is awful, which it really is right now besides the brace.
01:23:31.447 --> 01:23:35.453
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I haven't been third, but missing the playoffs There's gonna miss playoffs
01:23:35.585 --> 01:23:37.728
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and now they'll bad at least.
01:23:38.149 --> 01:23:41.293
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, well, that does it for this episode again.
01:23:41.573 --> 01:23:47.942
[SPEAKER_01]: We talk to them enough about the meds and the filies, but at the same time, it's always good celebrating their failures.
01:23:49.645 --> 01:23:53.090
[SPEAKER_01]: Certainly, they've been able to do that for us the past couple of years.
01:23:53.110 --> 01:23:56.935
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like the first time in five years where we've been able to kind of
01:23:57.286 --> 01:23:58.649
[SPEAKER_00]: punk them a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which we will continue to do as long as they're in the seller in the National League East.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, I think, you know, for all our Nats fans out there, I feel like we just got to stay the course here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like what we've got at building is just something good and, you know, trying, we're trying to look for more of the positives while not completely ignoring the negatives and seeing it ways that this team can improve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's plenty of ways to do so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we're on the path toward that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well said, well, I appreciate everyone listening and apologies for being a little bit underlather.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is my flu game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize for repeating myself after I literally, I said the sentence exactly what I just said, won't happen again, probably will, but it won't happen this time, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that is it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to you later in the meantime.
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