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Your story is not scary because the
characters are making choices the audience would make.
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Plus, you need a smarter lead
here. Like this. It's a
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dark, cold night in the woods. We stablish a traditional log cabin.
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Then cut too here we are a
log cabin. I rent it. We
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could be intimate and safety, because
it's not fifty so we don't have to
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park a car and neck at inspiration
point. That makes sense. I'm turned
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on by how logical you are.
I'm comforted by your shiny hair and facial
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symmetry. We should listen to the
news on this radio. I brought it
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as a cautionary measure because this cabin
is within walking distance of the local INSANTASILAND.
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Is that why you're able to rent
this at such a reasonable rate?
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Yes, I hope you're as fertile
as I am tonight. More HMM,
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hmmmmmmm. Hey, bed, why
are you doing the whole song? You
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wouldn't in the radio one at the
exact moment of the most pertinent news broadcast.
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It's too coincidental. But I'll jump
forward in time. This is where
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the fun of the gains. Hello, welcome to doly debated, the show
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where you're entitled to opinion, even
if it's wrong. Today, my name
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is Nathaniel Billy Levinson. With me. What sound good with me? With
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me are Sarah. I'm sorry,
sorry, you to your stuff. With
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me are Sarah Candy Man. Okay, also known as hanks and Ashley.
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We've had a doozy of a day, AMIS. So, this being October,
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a week away from Halloween, we
figured we'd watch some more horror movies.
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Who so we watched five movies.
That was supposed to be six,
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but I forgot to watch the Levich
whoopsie. That's not bad, which I
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have. It's spell it with TV's, though, so I will go back.
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I will to watch that. I'm
totally down to go watch that.
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It's a great movie. Yeah,
I just I got so hold on this.
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This sound effect. Is this chickens? I actually no idea what this
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is. Well, Oh, okay, also from Candy Man. I thought.
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I tried to get the sweets for
the sweet but apparently that wasn't in
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the original. I also didn't have
quite as much time as I wanted you
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to pull these sound effects, but
I got a couple good ones. The
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life makes a fine pots of team
Daddy. People so we watched five movies
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and we're just going to talk about
them and we figured we go chronologically.
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We didn't really have much of a
rhymer reason for which ones we picked and
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picked good horror movies. I was
except one. What it says. WHO
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SUGGESTED LEPRICON? I did. I
definitely did. I did not go to
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say, you know, it's us, it's but do you have regret?
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Oh, lever cons interesting so well, I think we're no starting with candy
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man, because that was ninety two. Were just gonna go. We're just
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gonna go and I have little notes. So here's my here's my first note
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about candy man. Intro music is
a Banger. Yeah, full of glass
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or though. The score immaculate.
was really good. I was. I
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was digging it. It's so like
aunting and beautiful and late it's so beautiful
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and yet so yeah, of all
the movies, I think candy man had
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the most consistent tone, even though
I don't think it had the I think
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us okay, so why don't we? I pause and say we watched candy
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man, Leprecon, Puckerndale, wish
is evil, Hollowe twousand and eighteen and
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us, and I really liked US
and candy man. Lecom was a terrible
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movie. Don't watch it, or
watch it once, which I wants to
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say you did. There was there
a couple. There are a couple interesting
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moments and all of them, well, it's like it's leaptco on one,
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two, three, four, in
space, then in the hood and then
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back to this and then they remouted
it others. Yeah, there's like a
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gritty reboot and then a not gritty
reboot and it said like back. I
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think it's on like the most reason
one where it's like leper con returns.
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Yeah, literally, the captured at
the top says back to Sham Rock.
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You're hear ha ha ha, wow, it really did it the but yeah,
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candy man. So Canon One thousand
nine hundred and ninety two, Tony
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Todd and other people, Vanessa Madson, whom you might know from David Lynch's
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doom. She was in some star
trek to and she was also in something
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else I watched recently that I'm blanking
on what it is. Yeah, but
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that the intro was. Yeah,
so candy man, even though I think
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us was like a better movie.
M there were some things in us that
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I was like this kind of is
messing with the tone that they're going for
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a little bit, which all one. When we talk about us all,
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I'll talk about that. But Candy
men, I thought had a really consistent
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tone all the way through. I
actually really, really enjoyed I hear the
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sequels are not as good. Would
you think about candy man? I really
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liked it. I also sound as
a big thing for me when I watch
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horror movies. Something that's really weird
just about me and general is the fact
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that, like, if I'm watching
a horror movie, I can see whatever
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is going on, but I don't
want to hear it. Like hearing it
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is what will freak me out.
So Watch the desert Texas jeanstow massacre in
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a theater. I honestly don't really
like watching horror movies in theaters in general
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because I like the safety of being
able to like hide behind the Gosh my
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blanket or like making the excuse of
my God, I have to be like
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just to remind myself that I do
not live him. Whatever storyline is occurring,
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get it why? But is it
all so bad that I was like
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waiting for a really creepy version of
like the Candy Man Song to come on?
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Oh, like, yeah, I
know the Candy Man. Yeah,
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I'm waiting for that like the entire
time. Yeah, it is interesting that
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that it never goes there. I've
been obviously it's not connected at all.
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Frankly, I'm very glad. Yeah, I'm because I would the tone angry.
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What were in the tone? But
so Candy Man Reef rundown. It's
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kind of like a bloody Mary Legend
based on a book like my Barker right
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where there's this there was a black
man who was in love with someone and
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end up getting lynched for it,
and the way they lynched him was they
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chopped his hand off and then dart
him is an artist, because he was
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an artist, and they covered him
in honey and sick the bees on him.
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Oh, that's why I mean to
get the north. That would have
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been the appropriate use of not the
bees. Yeah, but now they don't
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actually show this. I think.
I think in later and the actually just
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in the second movie, they actually
do a flashback. Yeah, and you
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get to see ye. So so
in this one they just set it up
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as as just an urban legend that
these two women are investigating to write a
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paper on folk legends and when Vanessa, I can't remember any of the characters
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names. Vanessa Madsen. Yeah,
excuse me, your note, Virgil,
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that was her friend. Yeah,
Helen, Helen. Yeah, so when
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Helen walks into that yeah, ere, I'm so bad with character names.
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Virginia Madsen is Helen. Her friend
is Bernadette, who's played by Cassie Lemons,
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and she actually did that new series
with Octavia Spencer. She's also the
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director of Harriet, okay, and
she was also in sounds of the whims,
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which we talked about in our last
horror podcast. Also next tent movie.
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But it's so I have a note
here that I have to like retract.
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Okay, because she walks into that
lecture hall like right as it's like
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lunch time, and I was like
she just walked into the lecture right as
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he ended. I was like all
indignant, but it turns out she wasn't
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actually taking the class. She's the
girlfriend or wife of the professor. Yeah,
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so I had to reject that statement. But she ends up investigating this
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thing where you say Candy Man's named
five times in the mirror. Things happened
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and it is not now. Okay, we're going to spoil every single one
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of these movies, although lepcom nothing
to spoil. But it's not until forty
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five minutes or fifty minutes in until
you actually see Tony Todd as the candy
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man, because up until that point
it's just a an urban legend. They
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find out from from one of the
maintenance, the facilities staff that who knew
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someone who heard about the candy man
and got killed. Like so there was
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someone in the walls and they go
and investigators in this in the projects.
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She ends up getting beat up in
a in like a bathroom. Yeah,
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by as they've now turned this like
legend of the candy man into like this
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group goes in and they have like
a hook, yeah, that they'll use,
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and then they just like, yeah, I think in the I yeah,
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it's just like the hook. Yeah, they's just like beat her up.
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But but she's been she had these
like weird hallucination things with like she
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opened the toy and they were a
bunch of bees and if you're if you
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have issues with a lot of insects, I don't recommend you watch this movie.
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But forty five minutes in and it
still could just be in our legend
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right, and then she had said
Andy Man in the mirror. Five,
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yeah, she said that's that's what
she and Bernadette were both were both doing
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it. And then they say it
four times, and then they and then
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they stopped and and that's when this
was check in. And then she says
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at the fifth time, yeah,
and then nothing happens. But they also
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didn't turn out the lights. Everyone
else had turned out the lights afterwards.
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True, and then true, but
but it's like after, after this whole
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thing was gets resolved with like the
police arrest the guy, and then she's
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walking in the parking lot and then
Tony Todd just shows up and as like
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be my victiming. Oh my Gosh's
Voice, oh rightly, crap, oh,
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it's like terrifying, like he has
such a fantastic voice and also like
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but his our presence join me now. What I really love about this is
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whenever he shows up, she like
goes into a trance. Right, yeah,
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she blacks out. Yeah, they
actually hypnotized her. That's what I
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was gonna brhut up. Yeah,
I didn't know that. So, so
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they won't actually and it was like
like two thirds of the way through filming
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until she was like this is like
they would film and she wouldn't remember them
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filming be like, okay, we
can do this anymore. Yeah, that's
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why it's like, yeah, when
it looks like she's zoond because she's actually
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zonged. Yeah, they found out
ways. They like went to a hypnotist
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and then found out ways that they
could hypnotize her on set to make it
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seem more realistic. Yeah, and
that's actually what it was successful. Yeah,
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and I think that's one of the
thing. This and us, I
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think, have the best tones,
because the actors went like above and beyond.
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Oh, absolutely, in portraying the
characters they were supposed to portray.
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Also, did you know with the
bees, like they used real oh yeah,
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these real I D and that didn't
tell telly time. That's thung a
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lot the mouth. He asked that
they get, I think, a thousand
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dollars for every beasting. Yeah,
that happened, and he was stung over
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like twenty three times. Yeah,
it's your money's worth. Tone. Yeah,
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that's pretty smart. Yeah, yeah, that there's so much I really
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love about this film. So I
got really lucky. The first time I
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saw this movie was last year at
the air's Lee grant down in South Charlotte.
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So I got to see it in
the theater the first time I saw
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it, and this is a really
cool one to see in the theater because
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the just the scores so immaculate.
It's one of my favorite movie scores ever.
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But also just getting to like hear
that terrifying and beautiful voice. Yeah,
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yeah, I see why you would
want to hide under a blanket for
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that one, Hank Yeah. Well, and just even the things he says.
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You can have like a freaky voice
and it not really be much of
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anything. But I don't know why, but him saying like be my victim
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ringed me out. Yeah, I
think it's also, I had mentioned this
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Ashley before, like scary movies where
the evil or the bad guy is very
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confident, HM, in getting their
victim, like Freddy Krueger, those like
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we're just like gonna Riddell, just
like like movies where they're not running to
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chase them, but won't gang.
Yeah, like Michael Myers, those Michael
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my Erie teleports, so he's cheating
a little bit. Like those freak me
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out because there's just as level of
like they don't appear frantic either, like,
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and I'll get to that even within
us when we talk about that one
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more. But like just this confidence
of like I don't need to run and
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chase you, like I know I'll
get you. And so just the fact
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that he's there and he's just like
be my victim, like it's like okay,
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no, know, I'm good.
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that, so it's like forty it's
a it's an hour and forty minutes,
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but forty five minutes in, candy
man first shows up and then things just
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go downhill so fast because he starts
gas lighting her that she w she blacks
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out and then she wakes up in
a puddle of blood and I thought she
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killed I thought she had killed the
baby at first. Oh, yes,
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and it turns out she had just
killed a dog, right, but the
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baby is gone. Yeah, but
the baby's gone. And so that she
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gets arrest by the police and you
know, all this is happening and hist
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her husband is clearly having an affair, which is like he doesn't pick up
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the phone right right, think worst, but they're yeah, there's the the
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build up of her slowly like sinking
into badness of like what is happening,
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and it's pretty I mean it's pretty
uncomfortable that if you think about, you
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know, the the gender dynamic of
this guy. I mean, okay,
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he's a super nice supernaturally framing her
for murder. That's like a little outside
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of the purview of most people,
right, but it's this it's this kind
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of thing where nobody believes her because
all the evidence is stacked against her and
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nobody else can see her. So
she ends up in the Psych Board and
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then my I think my favorite scene
was when the guys doing the Psyche Val
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and he's sitting at his desk and
she's like, I'll prove it to you,
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I'll bring him here right now,
and she looks the mirror and says
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can't even five times and then like, nothing happens for like three minutes and
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then the dude just gets shived in
the back right the hook and Tony Todd
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shows up, candy man shows up
unleas Shur strange, and then he eats
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himself backwards out the window. It's
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you can clearly see the strings.
It's such a cool shot. I
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love that. I totally missed the
strings because I was seven. The shock.
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I was not paying enough for death. Yeah, all right, but
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it's such any like they actually did
that stun, like Tony Todd did that
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stunt. That's it's such a cool
he's such a bad as it's out of
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nowhere. He just they're just like
staying there and there's all this tension.
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They just like see you all like
what one. I I didn't know how
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to feel about him like letting her
out of the restraints, because part of
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me wanted people to come in see
that, like our therapist was dead,
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right, see that she was still
restrained and that it couldn't have been her,
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right, and see that like the
window was smashed. Right. Granted,
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that's just not how the movie supposed
to go, right, right,
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but I mean he's hold. His
whole thing is he's kind of forcing her
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into a corner where the only thing
he she the only option she has left
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is to be be his, his
victim. Right well, and that that
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dynamic is so interesting, because she's
such like a doppleganger for love. HMM,
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so you, but you don't really
export to too much, right,
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but she see, I mean when
they see it in the murals, right,
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like the the resemblance is pretty streaking. Yeah, that that was just
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there's so much I really, really
enjoy about the film and I you know,
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I've only seen the the second film
in the trilogy aside from the you
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know, this first one, but
it's it actually adds like an interesting dynamically.
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He get more backstory to the character. And I mean honestly, even
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with only just watching this first film, I think the candy man is probably
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the most sympathetic horror villain. MMM, it's me. It feels like if
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holes was a horror movie I have
ever seen, or red holes. Really,
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yeah, it's got that similar flashbacky
story, but there's it's not heartwarming
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and uplifting. It's just what if
he became what if gusts became a horror
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villain? I mean Delay Hill,
but I call him gusty. Yeah,
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it was like, yeah, yeah, you should read, we should both
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read and watch it. There,
that's a good book and it's good movie.
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Right, I should just said she
had never so I know it's a
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good book. It's funny reading the
book because right, and he he's actually
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like a fat kid, Hmm,
and then he ends up really skinny because
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he has to dig holes all day. HMM, and they just straight up
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cash, I loo. Yet it
suff was never fat. Come on them.
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Actual Cannibal Shyla book watched. The
extended version is weight. He isn't
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dead. Shy, a surprise.
Sidetrack, side up, sidetrack. How
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can you do this? We,
we, I would. I would never
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sidetrack out level for me, rabbit
trail and truly debated for Oh, here
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we go. I think I'bout my
kids this one. I came for you.
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There it is. I knew I
pulled some Tony Todd are again and
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I'm just there where you're freaking out
inside my head. Oh it's so good,
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but yeah, yeah, so the
ending of the movie I thought was
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I it's a little kind of all
over the place, but I really loved
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it. Right, she ends up
crawling, quote Unquote, killing candy man,
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saving the baby, but she gets
burned up and dies in the process,
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and then she becomes a candy man. I thought was really cool.
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Right, right, I. Yeah, I fully admit to cackling in the
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theater. Yeah, yeah, just
because I'm like, I'm sorry, you
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are a Dick. When you got
that. They're good, cheating son of
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a gun. You deserve that.
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he's looking, he's in the bathroom. He's like look, he kind of
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crying about her. Yeah, yeah, he's port up a little better.
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Nag. Yeah, but he says
it five times, I know, in
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the mirror. And I was sitting
there and I was like no, you
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don't know, Um, you know
what about to do. and well,
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she shows up and I was like
Yep, yeah, well, you did.
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Now. So you guys mentioned the
possible White Savior implications of her saving
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the baby, but honestly, I
think the the ending where it's her funeral
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and there's like nobody there and then
the whole community from the project shows up.
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To me that wasn't like a white
savior thing. That was like a
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people the projects got that. It
was the candy man. Yeah, he's
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the ones at our funerals, because
everyone thought she was just deranged murderer.
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That's happen to die in Amon fire, and the people the projects recognized,
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oh no, it was the candy
man. They're the only ones that actually
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believe her, yeah, and actually
exactize what's happening exactly. So that's that's
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like posthumous vindication for her story that
there were people that believed her. So
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I didn't. I know, I
didn't feel a whole white, white savior
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complex thing because she wasn't really the
hero of the story, right, I
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mean she was almost. I mean
she was a tragic figure as well.
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Exact. I mean I with with
the whole Candy Man Story. It's nothing
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but a series of tragic right,
right, flashes. I just feel bad
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for Bernadette. I'm just like yeah, over here, like I'm, yeah,
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the best friend. That's like,
girl, I'm here for you.
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What's going on? And then you
just get murdered. Yeah, no,
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yeah, yeah, and if you, you know, any listeners of dearly
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debated, if you feel differently,
you know, full disclosure, none of
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us are people of Color. So
it would be helpful to hear your thoughts
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on this as well. You know, are are there things were missing just
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because we white? Yeah, well, yeah, definitely. I mean I
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thought it was really good. I
mean it had the the racial commentary was
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much more visual than anything else,
right, but they did, I mean
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they did mention like after she gets
beat up and they arrest the guy,
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they're just walking. Haven't catch a
conversation, she says. Helen says,
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there are two. Know, too
brutal murders have occurred and yet please,
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they, please, did nothing,
and then a white woman gets beat up
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and now they've walked it all down. Right. Yeah, so I think
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they did have social commentary in there
and I thought it was I thought it
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was good. Yeah, I was
surprised and like like, I I was
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happy me that that part was in
there. Right, yeah, I'd forgotten
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it, but at the same time
I don't know that that was the main
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point of the movie. It might
have been, right, I think was
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kind of an undercurrent that that they
because of the how the's, how everything
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was framed, they ended up doing
that, which I enjoyed it. Here
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we go, let me, let
me Defang. Let Me Defang candy men
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for you so you can sleep here
at night. He came for you nowhere.
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Don't worry, Macho man made savage, going to protect you. Please,
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let me do all right. So, Katie man, I I thoroughly
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enjoyed it. And Man, the
score is so good and the organs,
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the soaring organ, just worked so
well with all the imagery. I thought
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it was paste perfectly. Like a
lot of these movies, I thought I
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had some pacing issues, but this
one I thought it didn't it. It's
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like there's really still a build where
you like it is candy man reel or
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not, and then it's like,
oh my God, he's real. Okay,
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so let me just read some of
my notes, though. Forty five
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minutes. Oh Shit, it's on. Why grab the knife, right?
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So she ends up. She finds
like she in the pool of blood red
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dog and she grabs the butcher knife
with blood on it, like okay,
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yeah, I know you're not thinking, but that's stupid. Okay, it
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out was first. At first I
was like, AH, why are you
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grabbing that? But then another part
was like she hears screaming, she's covered
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in blood. is she going to
need to protect herself that? Yeah,
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I thought that as well. But
as soon as she saw the other person
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should drop the knife and she didn't, and then, Oh damn, they
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killed a dog. Can't even gas
lighting, though. Oh the news reporter.
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I don't know you guys noticed this, but when they when like right
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after they she gets arrested, there's
a news reporter talking about the incidents and
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this person misread their scripts so bad. It was so bad. Sorry,
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do you think just grab like a
random smuck off the street? Say Hey,
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read this, it will so is
so out of place. Are Able.
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It was so it was so yeah, it was so random that think
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she comes on, is like,
and this evens like happen. It souks
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like and she stutters and repeats lines
and then I'm like, what is happening?
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So that he be reporter is played
by someone named Mika or MICA.
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Am I ka Mica, that was
not your best effort. Yeah, then
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I have referring to her his husband. He howed her, and then Tony
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Todd Hot, damn the window,
God, Damn, great ending. That
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was was my stream of consciousness watching
that movie. That I that window scene
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is just so good. Yeah,
that was the so, so many things
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I really enjoy about that film.
Yeah, I got to introduce Ryan to
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candy man maybe a month and a
half ago and he's like, the movie
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was amazing. Tony Todd is terrifying. Yeah, he's awesome. And I
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tweeted that and I tagged Tony Todd
and he replied enjoy. Yeah, he's
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like super active. Listen, you're
dad pulled back the cur for a on
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second and I don't think you understood. I doubt I saw you. I
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saw you covering your face. Yeah, Tony Todd is super active on twitter.
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So if you seem like a really
cool guy to if you if you
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tweet, Hey, dude, I
just watch candy man for the first time,
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he will say cool beans. Okay, so I'm definitely. I'm definitely
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yeah, whenever I added this episode, even though I got three other episodes,
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what happened at so Cayman Excellent.
Definitely Watch it, which brings us
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to the worst one. Well,
just real quick before we shift away,
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for we should wait. Yeah,
final thoughts of Kennyman. So there is
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going to be a candy man film. Is supposed to be. It was
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supposed to be released this year and
they not pushed back. Isn't Jordan Peele
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doing that? Jordan Peel, I
believe, is producing it, but it's
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directed by Nia da Costa, Nia
to costas also wouldn't be directing Captain Marvel
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too, and I'm so excited about
that. But but you know, we'll
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talk about this more when we come
to Halloween two thousand and eighteen. But
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this candy man kind of Ignores Candy
Man to and candy man three and is
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more of a spiritual sequel to the
original film. And so the lead character
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in that is Anthony, the little
baby that Virginia Madsen pulled out of yeah,
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okay, Sonny todds gonna be in
it. Yes, Tony Todd is
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reprising his role as the candy man. Cool, cool, and then,
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oh, the lead, that the
guy who's playing the lead in that.
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Hang on, he was in something
else I watched recently and he's really good.
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So I apologize because I'm probably going
to butcher this name. Yeah,
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yeah, Duel Matine, the second
yeah, yeah, he he was Manta
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in Aquaman and he was cal a
bar in watchman and he I don't know
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if you'll have watched the new watchman
series, but he was freaking amazing that.
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So I'm really excited to watch him
be Anthony in this film. Sweet,
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I'm a sound clip here that says
bounce back and I don't know.
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This is Alo. I'm gonna Click
it. Okay, bounce back, now
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it's I. It's like forgotten.
Yeah. So, anyway, I'm really,
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really hype to watch a candy man
film directed by a black woman,
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Jordan Poh so. So, Jordan
Peele wrote the screenplay along with Nia da
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Costa. When Rosenfeld and yeah,
and so I was curious if this was
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going if this was based on another
Clive Barker book, but it looks like
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it's actually just based on the film. Sorry, thank my microphone, but
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yeah, anyway, this is going
to be really good and it's expected August.
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Twenty seven, two thousand and twenty
one. So Nice. All right.
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Yeah, I don't know, I
feel like I'm starting to get into
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horror movies. Thanks, Ashley.
You're well. Now I gotta go watch
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these things. You're welcome. Really. Yeah, I really, really enjoyed
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canny man. I really really enjoyed
us. A good story is a good
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story. Yeah, holling twenty teen, I thought was good. I don't
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know if I'd go back and Rewatch
it. I would re watch with canny
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man and US. Okay, Um, cool, okay, okay, man
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done. So let procton's gold chargerarch
a green boat. Oh my gosh.
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So we were talking before we started
recording and I recently just watched all of
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friends for the first time over the
summer. So I've wouldn't that's back now
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time I went back and watched some
of like the the actors earlier catalog,
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specifically Courtney Cox because I'm Monica Geller, if we're being real honesty. But
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this is the first thing I've ever
seen Jennifer Aniston and besides friends and yeah,
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because I don't think I've ever seen
anything else she's been in. But
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this was a year before friends.
I was like man, girls got to
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eat, because this movie was traction. Yeah, yeah, so she was
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like one of the only reasons like
kept watching. Well, and I really
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like war with Davis because I thought
were wed Davis was the only good part
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of them. Yeah, I say
were we Davis is awesome. Also,
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the guy who played Nathan played the
Card Sun in season seven next Gen.
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I was like, this guy's familiar. What do I know? WHOSE FACES?
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That's why it was the next year
watch anyway. So, yeah,
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so the lebricon, see that the
buckles, I'd be shoes. Why?
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I'm a LEPRICON, so lricon ninety
three, Warwick Davis being the literal Lepricaon.
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He's got a pot of goal with
apparently a hundred coins in it.
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It opens with some drunk Irish from
drunk all Irish Guy Eil Grady, pulls
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up in a limo and as like
look, Wifie I got. I got
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gold for days because I caught a
LEPERCA. LEPCON shows up. was like
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no, Sir Hills the well,
okay, he doesn't actually kill the wife.
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00:28:19.170 --> 00:28:22.450
A wife just like freaks out and
trips down the stairs. So he
406
00:28:22.609 --> 00:28:26.210
technically did not kill her. I
mean it was his fault, but he
407
00:28:26.210 --> 00:28:30.920
didn't. It wasn't. It was
manslaughter and not first agree. He wouldn't
408
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.200
have killed it. Oh No,
he would. The intentist, although he
409
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:40.359
doesn't see, will say right,
he didn't kill o grady. No,
410
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:44.549
he didn't kill Ouzy Auzi, because
it's like, I don't know where your
411
00:28:44.589 --> 00:28:47.230
gold is. He's like whatever,
it is your but oh grady, oh
412
00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:49.750
grady, like puts him in a
box. He shoots him with a shotgun
413
00:28:49.789 --> 00:28:52.990
or hits with Hammer, something knocks
him out. But it's been a box.
414
00:28:52.069 --> 00:28:56.140
But a four leaflover on the box, because apparently that's all it takes
415
00:28:56.140 --> 00:29:00.259
to stop leprican is one single for
leaflover. Yep, yeah, true.
416
00:29:00.299 --> 00:29:03.420
And then he has a stroke.
And so it's like ten years later in
417
00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:07.380
Jennifer Aniston and her dad, who's
again don't remember any character names. They
418
00:29:07.500 --> 00:29:10.930
show up to this cabin. Jennifer
anison. I just have no rude af
419
00:29:11.049 --> 00:29:15.809
Jennifer Aniston is just like playing the
braddiest Brat. I was like, man,
420
00:29:15.930 --> 00:29:19.170
she's Rachel in this. Too Bad
that at the very beginning I either
421
00:29:19.329 --> 00:29:23.640
wasn't paying attention enough or like I
was very unsure whether or not it was
422
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.599
her dad or like an older boy. Yeah, yeah, I know,
423
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.440
it's her dad. I I figured
that out then as I kept watching.
424
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.680
But that's why. Then when that
other uncle cock, yes, is there
425
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.480
and is like painting and I was
like, would you really just like hery
426
00:29:37.670 --> 00:29:41.829
with him out right? Yeah,
hello, MR toxic, Max Masculinity high.
427
00:29:44.950 --> 00:29:47.549
So okay. So this is where
my mind went because again, this
428
00:29:47.630 --> 00:29:49.789
movie was like the pacing in this
move was terrible. We compared to canny
429
00:29:49.829 --> 00:29:52.539
man, we can't even his basic
was like slow, methodical, and stuff
430
00:29:52.579 --> 00:29:56.220
happened right when you were started to
calm down, like procom was like nothing
431
00:29:56.460 --> 00:30:00.099
is happening, and then something I
have and then nothing happens. Something,
432
00:30:00.299 --> 00:30:03.220
and then it was not well paced. But right when they get to the
433
00:30:03.259 --> 00:30:06.779
cabin, they walk in and there's
just massive spider. Oh my gosh,
434
00:30:06.819 --> 00:30:08.490
I know, and I was like
that's a tarantula, and so then I
435
00:30:08.609 --> 00:30:11.970
looked up. I just wrote down
arch Rantula is indigenous to North Dakota because
436
00:30:11.970 --> 00:30:15.049
I mentioned they're not Koda, and
so I looked it off. The answer
437
00:30:15.130 --> 00:30:17.609
is no, that spider had no
business being there. I looked up what
438
00:30:17.690 --> 00:30:19.650
spiders are and they're all like this
big. They're all like none of them
439
00:30:19.730 --> 00:30:23.880
get a nice long appreciate your commitment
to science. I even bother me.
440
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.640
I was like, wait about TRANTELA's? Don't twin Tu that tranchlas like warm
441
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:32.839
areas, like showing Rola, and
we know they're also edible in Cambodia.
442
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.480
Yeah, there do I know?
I've watched a video of a Guy Cram
443
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.750
one. No, thank you,
I need one, but like, I'm
444
00:30:37.869 --> 00:30:41.190
terrified. Oh, I know.
So let's be refilled. The story is
445
00:30:41.309 --> 00:30:45.430
the spider like came on the screen. I was lucky done at that,
446
00:30:45.549 --> 00:30:51.859
butterly on my laptop and I tilted
it up, but I was watching.
447
00:30:57.579 --> 00:31:07.609
But I don't like is the eight
legend Bug spiders impossible? They want me
448
00:31:07.650 --> 00:31:15.329
to tect that? Now that was
the scariest part of the movie for me.
449
00:31:15.490 --> 00:31:19.480
M Yeah, I mean this was
supposed to be a horror comedy,
450
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.119
because it's yeah, it's not.
It's zero. I also have that zero
451
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:29.599
percent horrific. Also I have yikes
characterization and pacing so slow foot fetish.
452
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.799
That was weird. Yeah, I
mean it didn't even make sense, like
453
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:36.990
I don't even think that's like within
Leprecon Lore. That like Lebri concert they
454
00:31:37.109 --> 00:31:40.789
make about like making Jay losing.
Yeah, I think whoever wrote it got
455
00:31:40.910 --> 00:31:42.470
it confuse with the tail about the
tailor. They gets held by the fairies,
456
00:31:42.589 --> 00:31:48.500
the goat, the collar and his
elves, yet to confuse the cross.
457
00:31:48.700 --> 00:31:52.299
It's like it's so kind of Irish
and I was like I had don't
458
00:31:52.339 --> 00:31:57.779
remember. I don't remember set patrick
saying anything about this. Say I'm saying
459
00:31:57.779 --> 00:32:02.329
I think it was like I'm just
not not going to mention that. I
460
00:32:02.809 --> 00:32:10.049
play a character in DD with an
offensive Irish accent. Well, so when
461
00:32:10.369 --> 00:32:15.279
the scene where the LEPRECON opens,
he's looking for his naty snacks neck or
462
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.640
looking for his goal or whatever,
but he pulls out the box of Lucky
463
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:27.880
clovers. I was like, yeah, they went there dadding me bowling was
464
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.190
absurd. What did the little boy
say at the end? I forget.
465
00:32:30.750 --> 00:32:37.710
He said Fuck. I was like, I'm using that phrase as I most
466
00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:39.869
likely. I'm shocked. That's not
on the sound board. I couldn't.
467
00:32:40.069 --> 00:32:44.539
I didn't have time. I would
your lucky charms. I wanted to finish
468
00:32:44.579 --> 00:32:46.660
watching I wanted to finish watching us. No, it's fine, it's fine.
469
00:32:46.700 --> 00:32:50.019
I yeah, I did not have
time. So I don't know what
470
00:32:50.099 --> 00:32:52.299
rating this podcast is, because I
just said he well, you need to
471
00:32:52.339 --> 00:32:58.259
push stop swearing. He has spared
sounds. I guess for us you're just
472
00:32:58.339 --> 00:33:00.529
getting normal weeks. Ye have to
be on. You have to be on
473
00:33:00.569 --> 00:33:01.890
more than once. It's like like
after you got to be here more than
474
00:33:01.970 --> 00:33:07.769
once. You're on. Swear sounds. I'd come back if it was anything.
475
00:33:08.450 --> 00:33:19.000
Why? I just love Jackie Simmons. I need more Jaki Simmons on
476
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.519
the sound board. was talking about
we were talking about the lucky time.
477
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.440
Yeah, so the best part of
the movie was when he killed the guy
478
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.589
with the pogo sticks. I just
like so silly, Gosh and Oh my
479
00:33:29.750 --> 00:33:34.509
God, and then and then he
said some sort of stupid like jumping pun
480
00:33:34.750 --> 00:33:40.269
afterwards. o Bounce back no time. Yes, it's like, oh my
481
00:33:40.349 --> 00:33:46.539
gosh, they really went. Why? He's like looks around and then grabs
482
00:33:46.900 --> 00:33:53.940
you got focus slowly. I got
just like don't just gonna leave them like
483
00:33:54.019 --> 00:33:58.089
injured on the ground, and then
he gets a freaking pogo stick and I
484
00:33:58.210 --> 00:34:02.009
was like what why? And also
the dudes face is all bloody right,
485
00:34:02.049 --> 00:34:08.610
but lovercon only jumped on his chest
for no reason, like did his hands
486
00:34:08.650 --> 00:34:14.599
going on his face? No,
I assumed it was backsplash. It was.
487
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.840
It's so it's that that is like
the worst best moment of the movies.
488
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.599
It's like, this is so stupid. But what other movie you're going
489
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.510
to see a guy killed by a
pogo stick, like death by Pogo.
490
00:34:23.670 --> 00:34:32.309
Come on now, HMM bouts back
now. I'm so bad. And honestly,
491
00:34:32.389 --> 00:34:37.989
that movie just dragged. Yeah,
I'm like I I was watching it
492
00:34:37.030 --> 00:34:40.099
while trying to get ready this afternoon
and I was like, seriously, this
493
00:34:40.340 --> 00:34:45.099
is is like, are we done
yet? Also, Greg would have wept
494
00:34:45.139 --> 00:34:50.619
because the audio mixing is for shoot, it's so bad. I watched it
495
00:34:50.739 --> 00:34:54.369
on my phone, no headphone.
So I yeah, so, so the
496
00:34:55.010 --> 00:35:00.090
leps were we're Davis is voice is
not at the same level as everyone else's,
497
00:35:00.090 --> 00:35:02.809
and then there's like nine times with
a little kid is named Andy or
498
00:35:04.730 --> 00:35:07.199
something that something like that. The
little kid who looks like a chucky doll,
499
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.320
like a live action Chucky, but
I noticed that that it was like
500
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:15.440
they dressed him an awful lot like
my buddy. Alex is the name of
501
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.519
the kid. It's a manager Green
Boat. Him and Azzi were okay,
502
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.590
although Azzi, being mentally deficient,
was a little weird. Ozzie apparently comes
503
00:35:22.670 --> 00:35:29.429
back in the two thousand and eighteen
one lepricn returns Manh Yeah, back and
504
00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:31.710
we're pretty sure so it's killed with
a mailbox in that one I've seen.
505
00:35:31.789 --> 00:35:36.500
I've always thought the cook out the
Lepricron is one where it gets better,
506
00:35:36.900 --> 00:35:38.739
not that it ever gets great,
but it gets better because they just like,
507
00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:42.460
okay, we're just going to make
as silly a movie as possible right,
508
00:35:42.579 --> 00:35:45.460
like he goes to space and then
he goes to the hood and yeah,
509
00:35:45.739 --> 00:35:49.900
yeah, yeah, and they has
his own wrap. Yeah, it's
510
00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:51.809
it gets it gets up, which
I think we should go watch it.
511
00:35:52.130 --> 00:35:55.010
It gets roll back. Okay,
legitimately, I would be interested in maybe
512
00:35:55.130 --> 00:35:59.449
watching them. Maybe is like a
group. I woke up and put some
513
00:35:59.570 --> 00:36:05.400
out on this and that was an
interesting thing to watch too. Was that
514
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.360
the first thing degree I watched?
Ya, so yesterday I watched Ye,
515
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:13.320
yesterday I watch Halloween and Tuckerndale,
and today I watched lebricon first in the
516
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.239
morning, then candy man than us
me. So, yeah, that wasn't
517
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.309
like wasn't it wasn't a great thing
to do first thing in the morning.
518
00:36:19.630 --> 00:36:21.869
I just I just wasted an hour
and a half. Weird I just like
519
00:36:22.030 --> 00:36:23.789
woke up, grabbed my laptop and
was like all right, time to watch
520
00:36:23.789 --> 00:36:29.389
LEPRICON and I was like it's too
early for they think about it this way.
521
00:36:29.429 --> 00:36:36.860
Your date only got better. I
went work better. That's so that
522
00:36:37.019 --> 00:36:39.860
movie was not good. Yeah,
boy, the acting. The acting was
523
00:36:39.900 --> 00:36:44.780
atrocious. I think Oraor Davis was
trying, although his accent kind of slips.
524
00:36:44.940 --> 00:36:47.730
Yeah, yeah, audio mixing is
all over the yeah, so when
525
00:36:47.730 --> 00:36:52.929
the kid Alex is like scramming around
in the Barn muttering to himself, that
526
00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:57.130
is not what he is saying.
It's completely it's like clearly separately recorded audio.
527
00:36:57.210 --> 00:37:00.639
That's they dubbed over and it's bad. Well, and then then,
528
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.280
okay, they shoot him into the
well, right, they find it for
529
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.000
the clover at the shoe m into
the well and although, okay, Yep,
530
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:08.920
the when he was driving his little
truck right and got pulled over.
531
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:13.719
That was pretty funny. Did you
okay? When he flips their car?
532
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:15.989
Yeah, finally a hidiot with this
tiny each rug. I was like that,
533
00:37:16.389 --> 00:37:21.510
no, wouldn't happen. No,
he's magic. Yeah, the same
534
00:37:21.550 --> 00:37:24.190
magic. Okay, he had obtained
like one gold coin at that point and
535
00:37:24.309 --> 00:37:29.309
therefore his magic heading, but barely. Yes, but it's still stupid.
536
00:37:29.469 --> 00:37:31.860
You know. Did they have all
nine united that point in one Thousan ninehundred
537
00:37:31.860 --> 00:37:35.460
and ninetyd all the ones except the
one ausey eight. Did I actually,
538
00:37:35.860 --> 00:37:37.699
yeah, he did anything. But
when they find it, he bites one
539
00:37:37.739 --> 00:37:40.380
and then he swallows it. Looks. Yes, they not going to the
540
00:37:40.420 --> 00:37:43.900
well. He starts melting, which
man? Those special effects, though.
541
00:37:44.969 --> 00:37:47.570
They knock him in and he comes
back out, toxic, masculine, comes
542
00:37:47.570 --> 00:37:51.730
rifle butts and poor some gas and
lights a match, flicks it in there
543
00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:57.409
and then there's a nuclear explosion.
And Yeah, I beg your pardon.
544
00:37:57.530 --> 00:38:01.960
What were you keeping in that well? Meth not what you keep something,
545
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.840
I mean, but the North Dakota
get our water from the city. We
546
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.719
don't want to meet our well's just
waste in space. Let's build them at
547
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.190
less kids. Make a wish.
I wish for Meth I got it.
548
00:38:15.510 --> 00:38:17.750
Hey, I don't. Honestly,
I don't know how much more I could
549
00:38:17.750 --> 00:38:21.349
talk about. This movie is terrible, you know. You know, it's
550
00:38:21.389 --> 00:38:24.110
one of those where is probably better
watched as a group with alcohol, with
551
00:38:24.230 --> 00:38:28.340
alcohol. Yeah, like, that's
what I'm saying is I would definitely be
552
00:38:28.340 --> 00:38:30.739
down to watch the other ones because
they sound utterly ridiculous. Yeah, part
553
00:38:30.780 --> 00:38:34.860
of me, honestly kind of wants
to skip like two and three and just
554
00:38:34.980 --> 00:38:38.260
go straight to like outer space and
facebooly. So, yeah, my understanding
555
00:38:38.340 --> 00:38:43.849
is one is probably the weakest one. Almost the reboot is like the lepricon
556
00:38:43.929 --> 00:38:45.929
origins. One is like a gritty
reboot one. Why? When I watch
557
00:38:46.050 --> 00:38:50.170
that? The whole point of Leftricon
is that it's absurd. Yeah, it's
558
00:38:50.170 --> 00:38:53.170
ABSURDA doofy. Okay, the line
of Shamrock your world, lowky makes me
559
00:38:53.289 --> 00:38:55.800
want to watch. Yeah, well, that was a that was like a
560
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.960
return to form. They went back
to all right, let's move on from
561
00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:04.360
that terrible movie to another good movie, which I guess chronologically, we Tuckerendale,
562
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.760
Tucker and Dale Versus Evil Two thousand
and twenty that's the act. We
563
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.710
had sound two differently. So I
got it right here. You are a
564
00:39:13.909 --> 00:39:17.110
good looking man, more or less. You got a damn good heart.
565
00:39:19.710 --> 00:39:24.860
Wait, that's two things right there. It is just be gem. He's
566
00:39:24.900 --> 00:39:29.219
a he's a wonderful man. He's
so funny. Yeah, and so again,
567
00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:31.219
spoilers. I'm kind of because it. They established it really ear in
568
00:39:31.260 --> 00:39:34.260
the movie, but I love that. I love the way that the movie
569
00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:37.650
opens with like the typical college fat
people who like, Oh, these people
570
00:39:37.650 --> 00:39:42.010
are all going to get murdered,
going and they passed the Hillbaly truck and
571
00:39:42.010 --> 00:39:44.650
they look all angry and they pulled
the gas station and then it switches to
572
00:39:44.690 --> 00:39:49.889
the perspective of Tuckerndale, who are
the actual protagonists. I it's really fun.
573
00:39:50.329 --> 00:39:52.880
And then, of course, the
you know, they end up skinny
574
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:57.559
dipping, whatever will, Tuckerdale fishing. One of them falls in hits her
575
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:00.840
head and so they rescue her and
they're like yelling at them, we're got
576
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:06.760
your crown. There's so many things
as like, dude, do you get
577
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:13.070
yourself when you talk? It's it's
obviously the whole movie is completely predicated on
578
00:40:13.550 --> 00:40:16.670
the college kids think that they're serial
killers. And they're not really doing anything
579
00:40:16.670 --> 00:40:20.469
to help their case and no one
ever tries to sit down to like the
580
00:40:20.510 --> 00:40:22.699
very o of the we when it's
way too late and everyone's dead. But
581
00:40:22.940 --> 00:40:27.780
it it's absurd, but it's absurd
in a great way, especially when,
582
00:40:27.820 --> 00:40:30.380
after they like all look, the
guy throws some of the wood chipper and
583
00:40:30.420 --> 00:40:34.739
the guys fears himself on this.
It's pretty gruesome. But when, yeah,
584
00:40:35.619 --> 00:40:38.130
but duck, just like freaking out. I don't, this is this
585
00:40:38.369 --> 00:40:45.730
is suicide code. Damn, college
kids come up here kill themselves all over
586
00:40:45.769 --> 00:40:50.840
the property. It's yeah, like
they're just going to just like have a
587
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.159
fishing trip and just, yeah,
I think so. Well. And also
588
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.480
it was that they were trying to
play off of movies like the hills have
589
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.639
eyes and yeah, turn, yeah, which also fun fact. We.
590
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.949
I thought of two completely different movies
while watching this. See that that's actual
591
00:41:04.989 --> 00:41:07.110
chainsaw. I. Yes, I
think that one also is one of the
592
00:41:07.230 --> 00:41:10.349
Texas chainsaw. Yet definitely, like
with the they walk into the cabin.
593
00:41:10.789 --> 00:41:15.789
The do you think this cabin was
owned by scientists, like all these those
594
00:41:15.829 --> 00:41:20.099
like, oh no, let their
face shown. This cabin. I do.
595
00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:22.900
I do always love and it's a
really huge joke, but for some
596
00:41:22.980 --> 00:41:27.940
reason I always enjoy it where someone
staring at something and even from the cameras
597
00:41:28.059 --> 00:41:30.900
you're seeing all these horrible things and
the person like zones and on something they
598
00:41:30.940 --> 00:41:34.690
do on Santa Clary to diet where
they walk into the Nazi's house and Joel's
599
00:41:34.730 --> 00:41:37.090
looking at the shelf and it's like, Oh my God, is showing all
600
00:41:37.090 --> 00:41:38.610
this Nazi memorabilia and all this stuff
and like, oh my gosh, I
601
00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:43.449
got not see's like this shelf is
amazing, it's this, is this tea,
602
00:41:43.730 --> 00:41:46.050
like he's just completely misses the Nazi
stuff. My I love I love
603
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:50.639
that so that I going over all
this horrible grizzly murder stuff and like Julie
604
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:55.679
Dogs, no expliration day, the
cube on the exterior, the cabinet straight
605
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.079
out of evil dead. Oh yeah, undred percent, hundred well it was.
606
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.789
I think they he wanted to combine
the cabin from evil dead and wrong
607
00:42:02.909 --> 00:42:07.070
turn. Maybe. So I have
not seen wrong turn in the hills.
608
00:42:07.070 --> 00:42:09.869
Have Eyes. So fun fact,
those were like the first horror movies I've
609
00:42:09.909 --> 00:42:15.309
seen. Why? I don't know. Reas intense. Yeah, what's craven
610
00:42:15.349 --> 00:42:20.300
don't plays? Huh? I so
this is what happened. Is when I
611
00:42:20.420 --> 00:42:22.099
was younger I was like I don't
know how I feel about horror movies,
612
00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:27.099
and then at much time, I've
write it. Every time I was homesick,
613
00:42:28.099 --> 00:42:30.050
there were tend to be a horror
movie marathon on, but of course
614
00:42:30.090 --> 00:42:34.530
it would be like all of the
wrong turns, and I'm like well,
615
00:42:34.610 --> 00:42:37.690
it's daylight, so like now's the
time too, if I'm gonna start.
616
00:42:38.250 --> 00:42:43.210
And so I saw like all of
the wrong turn movies and then the hills
617
00:42:43.250 --> 00:42:45.719
have eyes was going to come on, I think at a different time,
618
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.320
and I was like, Oh,
that's clearly about ghosts. I don't know
619
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.559
why. I'd never heard anything about
it. And I watched it and I
620
00:42:52.639 --> 00:43:00.949
was like, no, it's more
cannibals. I've seen is cannibals. And
621
00:43:01.150 --> 00:43:05.429
so also the check type, this
Chancel Maskar, and I've watched movie couple
622
00:43:05.469 --> 00:43:07.469
times. I just noticed this today. The original right, the original?
623
00:43:07.550 --> 00:43:12.150
Yes, that's correct. So when
he chained saws the the high by accident
624
00:43:12.190 --> 00:43:15.460
and he runs out and he's like
spinning around, he's doing the chain saw
625
00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:20.900
dance from Texas chainsaw Massa dance from
the end, which I didn't know I
626
00:43:21.059 --> 00:43:22.099
was I was just like always speaking
out. But then I say, I
627
00:43:22.179 --> 00:43:25.739
saw a video on why. I've
ever seen Texas chainsaw ever, but I
628
00:43:25.780 --> 00:43:29.849
finally saw the kill counts for it. And so you know, that's they
629
00:43:29.969 --> 00:43:32.250
deep. They use that dance over. Yeah again, it's it's just like
630
00:43:32.409 --> 00:43:36.570
running. Well, they had said
that. That was one. I think
631
00:43:36.570 --> 00:43:39.690
they had two scenes created that like
they wanted to do before they had any
632
00:43:39.769 --> 00:43:43.000
of the cast Oryeah, any of
that stuff, and that was one of
633
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.039
the scenes that they were like yeah, that was very well done. It
634
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.199
was a nice Omi. I was
I yeah, it was, it was.
635
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:52.000
It was really fun. Well,
I mean the whole thing is picking
636
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:55.869
on the idea of like stereotypes of
like the backwoods. Oh, yeah,
637
00:43:55.989 --> 00:44:01.949
to people. And Yeah, so
I got damn stupid college kids. This
638
00:44:02.070 --> 00:44:07.829
vacation sucks my notes. I was
writing down understandment. So the year.
639
00:44:09.260 --> 00:44:13.300
So I don't know if you noticed, but Chad. So these kids all
640
00:44:13.300 --> 00:44:15.139
kill themselves, starting on themselves,
and one of them is like going crazier
641
00:44:15.179 --> 00:44:20.940
and crazier crazier and getting like bloodthirsty. Use Chad. I don't know if
642
00:44:20.940 --> 00:44:23.369
you notice, but over the course
of this film he's collar gets more and
643
00:44:23.489 --> 00:44:28.570
more popped like it starts off normal
and then the end it's like flick straight
644
00:44:28.690 --> 00:44:31.730
up, like over his ears.
I don't know that was deliberate. I
645
00:44:31.929 --> 00:44:36.130
think it was. I think it
was a deliberate choice, like he becoming
646
00:44:36.170 --> 00:44:40.119
more and more of a douchebag and
she's college. Is Funny. How else
647
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:45.800
would you fly it? It's illustrate
he's not just sending the eatlists. Collars
648
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:52.070
fully erect. That's how that's how
you visually demonstrate a descent into madness.
649
00:44:52.190 --> 00:44:55.349
By how the only way I could
have gotten more was if he had put
650
00:44:55.389 --> 00:45:00.030
another show on the pop. That
me right, gradually pop my collars round,
651
00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:01.590
just like slowly. Oh my gosh, she's going and say it's too
652
00:45:01.670 --> 00:45:06.550
much. Oh Man, it's too
much. No one side well accounts.
653
00:45:06.590 --> 00:45:10.619
It doesn't make sense. But so
I did notice from like a cinematography standpoint,
654
00:45:12.340 --> 00:45:15.500
when Tucker is being chased through the
woods, it's like almost an exact
655
00:45:15.539 --> 00:45:21.889
mirroring of the story they tell of
the the murders, from the beginning of
656
00:45:21.969 --> 00:45:23.409
the girl he chased, the way
accept this talker. He's like the one
657
00:45:23.449 --> 00:45:29.409
leaves on himself. Hmm, talk
he's I love the other guy, the
658
00:45:29.489 --> 00:45:31.610
other guy's great, but Allan Tuddock
is the best part of that movie.
659
00:45:31.650 --> 00:45:36.199
He's so funny. He's just constantly
like it gets sung by bees. He
660
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:37.760
comes in, pops a PBR I
just like pouring beer in his face.
661
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.559
He gets his hand, his hand
like the cut his fingers off. He
662
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.679
goes over, Starts Porning Beers,
you know, alcohol. He did.
663
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.239
Yeah, that's it wasn't like written
in there. He was the one that
664
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.829
came up with the fact that,
like he should pour beer on his face
665
00:45:51.989 --> 00:45:54.630
for his these things that that seems
appropriate. And and like, you know
666
00:45:54.750 --> 00:45:59.309
what, I really love the romance
with Dale. Oh so good. And
667
00:45:59.550 --> 00:46:05.139
like they they do so many things
to wear like they people on the outside
668
00:46:05.139 --> 00:46:07.579
are going to think they're gay.
Like, I don't know, like the
669
00:46:07.619 --> 00:46:09.739
whole scene where they're getting pulled over
by the cop and they like me,
670
00:46:09.940 --> 00:46:13.380
I was like, oh no,
that cop is going to think other things
671
00:46:13.420 --> 00:46:15.820
are happening right, right, Um, and then just so many other things,
672
00:46:15.900 --> 00:46:19.130
like just you know, the way
they do. You want me to
673
00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:23.409
pull those stingers out of your faces? To that, though, is I'm
674
00:46:23.449 --> 00:46:28.610
gonna find it. I have the
movie open for the part where they're like
675
00:46:28.650 --> 00:46:31.449
shooting at him. In the cabin
and they get into a fight. It's
676
00:46:31.530 --> 00:46:37.800
the the conversation is just like so
bromance. I love it, I do.
677
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:42.480
I do like the romance and I
don't know it because I am a
678
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:47.710
straight girl. I don't know if
if people who are not watching this film
679
00:46:47.750 --> 00:46:52.829
would you that as Queer bating.
So I'm just I'm again things. I
680
00:46:52.909 --> 00:46:55.750
don't know if you know the answer
to these questions. I don't think it
681
00:46:55.989 --> 00:47:00.460
is as maybe, okay, arguably, that he pulled over seen is played
682
00:47:00.500 --> 00:47:04.300
for that kind of laughs, right, but they're just to pick it as
683
00:47:04.340 --> 00:47:07.219
good friends. Ye. So,
yeah, here's here's one of my pair
684
00:47:07.260 --> 00:47:10.099
of things, but it's still working. There's something there. That's what happened.
685
00:47:10.139 --> 00:47:15.619
If there wasn't for you. That's
right, for being such a Goddamn
686
00:47:15.659 --> 00:47:19.250
Good Samaritan. Oh my God,
she's drowning, Tucker. Oh let's savor.
687
00:47:19.409 --> 00:47:22.449
Oh, let's savor. Well,
howless she still love? Oh Hallo,
688
00:47:22.610 --> 00:47:25.369
Fuck Louis, don't you dare blame
us on her. Not Blaming this
689
00:47:25.449 --> 00:47:29.210
whole thing on her. I'm blaming
this old thing on you, when you
690
00:47:29.289 --> 00:47:32.239
know what, Tuck, none of
this would have happened if we hadn't a
691
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:37.719
gun fishing. That isn't even an
option. I don't even like the fiship.
692
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:45.869
You don't like you mean you don't
like fishing. I like it.
693
00:47:45.989 --> 00:47:51.309
Okay, you know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Tucker to her feelings.
694
00:47:52.349 --> 00:47:59.260
I'm sorry. Yeah, he kind
of did. Just love that.
695
00:48:00.340 --> 00:48:04.940
It's just the tension, just deplaceribulance. Yeah, you kind of did,
696
00:48:05.219 --> 00:48:08.099
but I actually I did have I'm
blaming this old thing on you. That's
697
00:48:08.099 --> 00:48:13.289
staying on the group of things.
So good aspris at all. But yeah,
698
00:48:13.369 --> 00:48:16.889
I mean it does like escalate to
the point of just maximum absurdity with
699
00:48:17.329 --> 00:48:21.369
how the the rest of the kids
end up buying right. So, like,
700
00:48:21.650 --> 00:48:24.130
Oh yeah, I think it peeks
at the woodchipper scene when the when
701
00:48:24.170 --> 00:48:28.679
the cop comes and they have the
half that body in the leg. Wait,
702
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.519
I have it. We've had a
doozy of a day. Yeah,
703
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:37.880
I don't know, like the the
whole idea the dumb girl who she's like,
704
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:42.150
oh no, you're on fire and
then she literally throws and I'm sure
705
00:48:44.150 --> 00:48:47.590
as a descendant of moonshiners. Well, I will say they do establish the
706
00:48:47.630 --> 00:48:52.190
college characters with about one note right, but they're pretty good at sticking with
707
00:48:52.269 --> 00:48:54.030
that. And the black guy is
like the last one at I can see
708
00:48:54.030 --> 00:48:58.300
super cautious. MM So, I
mean he still dies, right, but
709
00:48:58.780 --> 00:49:01.579
will? Isn't his dad like the
one that he talked about in the story?
710
00:49:01.820 --> 00:49:05.460
No, no, that's chat,
that's Chad. Oh, wherever it's
711
00:49:05.460 --> 00:49:07.980
a yeah, that's that's towards the
end where it turns out that that Chad's
712
00:49:08.260 --> 00:49:12.449
motain, because I like the tell
a store worry about hill billy's like murder
713
00:49:12.489 --> 00:49:15.329
a bunch of people and his mom
was feeling I got away. But it
714
00:49:15.409 --> 00:49:19.250
also turns out that he was impregnant. She was impregnated by Hill Billy.
715
00:49:19.690 --> 00:49:22.690
So this it comes to the out
there in the by the way, this
716
00:49:22.849 --> 00:49:27.320
is your dad. You can't be
true. You're half full billy. Yeah,
717
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:30.719
I'm like, yes, or because
that's a genetic thing that you passed
718
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:32.920
on it. Hell, they'll like, I love it, and they'll billy
719
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.480
is not ethnicity. And then they
work in like the found footage stuff too.
720
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.630
They're working a lot of a lot
of stuff, even though on the
721
00:49:40.829 --> 00:49:45.949
that the image of falling out of
the thing from the original Halloween right,
722
00:49:45.949 --> 00:49:46.949
yes, yes, I thought about
that too. Is Like, oh,
723
00:49:46.989 --> 00:49:51.150
are they going to turn away,
he gonna be gone and it's kind of
724
00:49:51.190 --> 00:49:52.860
like, I think having in the
woods is a similar thing, where it's
725
00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:57.420
it's an homage to horror in a
way. That's just like a really fun
726
00:49:57.539 --> 00:50:00.619
movie right right now. This was
a fun with this is my first time
727
00:50:00.739 --> 00:50:04.940
watching that today. I really enjoyed
it, since it's so good. Well,
728
00:50:05.019 --> 00:50:07.570
I need know. It's been on
my list for years because even before
729
00:50:07.570 --> 00:50:12.210
I liked horror movies, one of
my Grad School professors, Dr Amy Sturgis
730
00:50:12.730 --> 00:50:15.969
Gee every year she loves Halloween's her
favorite holiday. So she does thirty one
731
00:50:15.010 --> 00:50:20.730
days of Halloween on her blog and
she always posts a movie list and she
732
00:50:20.849 --> 00:50:24.280
doesn't actually really like horror movie,
but she likes she likes more like thoughtful
733
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:28.199
and like horror comedy and things like
that. So actually get all really good
734
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.800
like horror movie recommendations on from her, but that was one that was on
735
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:36.030
her list because when she's a big
firefly flank, and so she was really
736
00:50:36.030 --> 00:50:38.309
excited to see Ellen too took in
a movie of like this, but she's
737
00:50:38.349 --> 00:50:43.269
like this is really be fun and
how it plays with the horror genre and
738
00:50:43.389 --> 00:50:46.150
deals like with ropes, and the
first time I watched this. I remember
739
00:50:46.190 --> 00:50:50.340
it was with my best friend from
college and we were looking for a movie
740
00:50:50.420 --> 00:50:52.619
to watch. Me was like this
movie is really funny, we should watch
741
00:50:52.619 --> 00:50:57.300
it, and that was like the
only thing I knew about is. See,
742
00:50:57.380 --> 00:51:00.420
I had them, I think,
only because of the movie posters and
743
00:51:01.059 --> 00:51:05.250
him holding a chainsaw. I assume
it was this was a Zombie movie.
744
00:51:05.690 --> 00:51:08.289
That was not correct. See,
I just didn't even know. So all
745
00:51:08.329 --> 00:51:12.449
of a sudden, like go,
we're starts. Yeah, and I just
746
00:51:12.530 --> 00:51:15.769
started like hiding my face. It
was just like what is happening? My
747
00:51:15.849 --> 00:51:20.360
friend was like, I thought you
would be better with this. Yeah,
748
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.119
it was a it was like shockingly
corgeous. Yeah, if it was like
749
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:27.719
it's played for comm and yes,
still like right, my God, yeah,
750
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.679
it's. It's viewing from the wood
chippers. It is. God's pretty
751
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.829
absurdly over the top, although I
will say with the woodchipper thing, they
752
00:51:34.949 --> 00:51:37.269
totally did that in a James Bond
movie that was ready to pg it's the
753
00:51:37.349 --> 00:51:40.429
worst one. It's on Her Majesty's
Secret Service, that's and they're like skiing
754
00:51:40.550 --> 00:51:44.070
down the slope and the dude like
goes a rig. Oh okay, it's
755
00:51:44.110 --> 00:51:45.750
the only one with George was zmb
because he was so bad. They he's
756
00:51:45.869 --> 00:51:50.099
greatly bond to only at one film. Well, I've had some say only
757
00:51:50.340 --> 00:51:52.139
only time bond ever got married.
Yeah, I've had someone told me that
758
00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:55.139
was best movie because of that.
I'm like sorry, I can't take any
759
00:51:55.260 --> 00:51:58.820
opinion seriously anymore. I I've not
seen it, but I loved and it
760
00:51:58.900 --> 00:52:01.010
has nothing to do with the marriage
thing, although they kind of spoiler for
761
00:52:01.090 --> 00:52:05.170
a like forty, fifty six,
sixty year old movie this point. They
762
00:52:05.210 --> 00:52:07.050
killed her at the end because bond
can't be married right, and so I
763
00:52:07.090 --> 00:52:09.329
was like, okay then, what
the hell we doing this whole time?
764
00:52:09.570 --> 00:52:13.329
But the whole movie was just garbage. And there's like skiing down a slope.
765
00:52:13.409 --> 00:52:15.760
Some guy goes into a snowblower and
you see like the spray, it's
766
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:20.079
or it it's just like Orange Orange, and you're like that's not the color
767
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.719
of blood, but it's got to
be mixed with the snow. To be
768
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.920
fair, that was also before the
PG thirteen rating. True, Tould like
769
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.429
twenty years. That went back when
like airplane PG and like here some titties
770
00:52:30.469 --> 00:52:35.909
like I beg your pardon, airplane. Yes, I see titties every day.
771
00:52:36.230 --> 00:52:45.420
Not My problem. I do too. anyways. I guess hold on
772
00:52:45.500 --> 00:52:52.179
while I pull her hank out.
I don't remember what it's like right.
773
00:52:52.260 --> 00:52:57.139
Tuckerndal or is yeah, sorry,
it was. So I first watched in
774
00:52:57.219 --> 00:53:00.369
college and Tuckerndale was one of those
movies where I was like my friends were
775
00:53:00.409 --> 00:53:02.050
like hey, what's watch this movie
and then they explained it to me.
776
00:53:02.570 --> 00:53:07.050
I was like that sounds like the
terrible movie of sure, I'll watch it,
777
00:53:07.289 --> 00:53:08.610
and we watched. was like that
was amazing. Was Watch it again.
778
00:53:09.969 --> 00:53:13.360
Handful of movies and maybe I don't
know if it was just my friends
779
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.880
are bad at explaining movie plots,
but there are a couple of movies we're
780
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:19.320
I've had friends be like hey,
we need to watch this movie and then
781
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.480
explain the plot to me. Feel
like it's so good. I mean like
782
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:24.119
that sounds like a movie I won't
enjoy. Why would I do that?
783
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:27.630
Right, but sure, I'll do
it because I'm your friend. And then
784
00:53:27.710 --> 00:53:30.349
men was like, okay, that
was worth watching. Fucker Dale was one
785
00:53:30.349 --> 00:53:32.909
of that sex trifles, one of
that I've talked about that one. It's
786
00:53:32.949 --> 00:53:37.630
like it's a trashy movie. I
don't want to get to sidetrack. It's
787
00:53:37.630 --> 00:53:40.900
a trashy movie but I thought it
was hysterical, especially when they're going through
788
00:53:40.900 --> 00:53:46.780
Amish country. Sarah's from Amish.
Good, Yep, Yep, conus a
789
00:53:46.860 --> 00:53:50.500
horse. I don't think I missed
what you thinking me. All right.
790
00:53:50.539 --> 00:53:52.260
So any final thoughts on Tucker do
versus evil other than go see it.
791
00:53:52.340 --> 00:53:59.449
It's really good. You know,
I at being the Native Hill building in
792
00:53:59.570 --> 00:54:05.369
the room. I was really impressed
with tyler lebane's accent as Dale. He
793
00:54:05.489 --> 00:54:12.079
sounds like my cousins. Okay,
to be fair, they have like Nadian
794
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.360
hillbillies. The accents totally different but
they have this similar yeah, lumberjackie,
795
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:19.480
outdoorsy lifestyle. Yeah, I was
trying to figure out if I had seen
796
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.320
him in anything else and I think
the only other film of his I've seen
797
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.630
is he was in rise on the
plan of the apes, but he's also
798
00:54:24.670 --> 00:54:29.110
the no, no, the other
thing I'd seen him and he he was
799
00:54:29.190 --> 00:54:32.590
in a couple of episodes of the
x files and season three he played stoner
800
00:54:34.869 --> 00:54:39.139
and I remembered I remembered his character
and then I remember, Oh this is
801
00:54:39.179 --> 00:54:42.780
why I know him, because when
they did the revival in two thousand and
802
00:54:42.780 --> 00:54:45.619
sixteen, they brought him back to
be stir owner. Okay, serious,
803
00:54:45.980 --> 00:54:51.699
oh my gosh, it's the same
guy. Really funny. anywaysome. So
804
00:54:51.940 --> 00:54:54.849
props, props to you, Mr
Liban, on your redneck accent. It's
805
00:54:54.889 --> 00:55:00.610
very good, very often. All
right, Halloween, two thousand and eighteen.
806
00:55:00.690 --> 00:55:04.929
D Dude, Dude. Again.
Didn't have time to finish off.
807
00:55:05.010 --> 00:55:07.679
My things are okay, though.
Only two thousand and eighteen. I've so
808
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.199
many thoughts about this movie. I
enjoyed, I thought was good and I
809
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.639
thought it was a really good I
like a lot of the ways they had
810
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:19.800
mirroring of the original Halloween with Lorie
strode, where Michael Myers was absolutely I
811
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.469
thought was really cool. So like
the shot where ministrode, whose name I
812
00:55:22.510 --> 00:55:30.710
cannot remember, Ali Ali Helly Ellison, out the the youngest one. She's
813
00:55:30.750 --> 00:55:34.429
sitting in school and she looks at
the window and sees Lari standing there.
814
00:55:34.469 --> 00:55:37.460
Oh yes, just like when Lorie
looked out the window saw Michael Standing there
815
00:55:37.699 --> 00:55:39.900
and I was like, Oh,
they're doing that. Okay, that's pretty
816
00:55:39.900 --> 00:55:44.860
cool. The intro where they're like
showing old man Michael from the back and
817
00:55:44.940 --> 00:55:46.460
do that whole thing. That to
me was like, I don't know that
818
00:55:46.539 --> 00:55:51.650
that was I don't know that I
needed that. I mean I thought it
819
00:55:51.730 --> 00:55:54.570
was kind of an interesting way to
set up the film, like, you
820
00:55:54.650 --> 00:56:00.210
know, telling you how he got
out and fun fact that was actually Nick
821
00:56:00.289 --> 00:56:06.360
Castle who was the original Michael Myers. So they got him forty years later
822
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.599
to be Michael Myers. I can
at least in that scene. The the
823
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:13.760
only problem I had, the one
of the biggest problems I have with that,
824
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:16.480
is it kind of demistifies him a
little bit. Does you see his
825
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.750
face? No, but you see
his like old band beard and but he
826
00:56:20.909 --> 00:56:22.510
was like this you know, clossal
druggernaut where it's like is he human?
827
00:56:22.510 --> 00:56:25.190
And then of course some of the
Michael Myers was like no, he's not,
828
00:56:25.269 --> 00:56:29.590
he's like even possessed something weird.
It got weird, even though they
829
00:56:29.630 --> 00:56:31.940
scratch that. But yeah, that
that that intro to me was a little
830
00:56:32.099 --> 00:56:35.260
I was wasn't sure what they were
doing. And then when they introduced the
831
00:56:35.260 --> 00:56:37.579
strode family, they should you show
Lauri being super paranoid. I'd super prepared
832
00:56:37.619 --> 00:56:40.780
all this. I thought was really
good, her trying to connect with her
833
00:56:40.780 --> 00:56:44.500
granddad, her grand ever being a
little more understanding than her, her mom.
834
00:56:45.099 --> 00:56:49.289
I quite enjoyed, although write in
the intro with they're introducing that family
835
00:56:49.730 --> 00:56:54.250
like glorious daughter's family. I can't
remember. Karen Paren and by Judy greer.
836
00:56:54.289 --> 00:56:58.170
Yeah, it's awesome. Alison is
the daughter. Yeah. So,
837
00:56:58.369 --> 00:57:01.079
so they're internet like making stuff in
that just goes. Oh, I got
838
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:04.480
peanut butter on my Dick. I'm
not. No, he says I got
839
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:06.639
peanut butter on my penis. I'm
like, did you have your Dick out
840
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:08.159
while you're making a sandwich in the
live in the kids with your family,
841
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:10.719
like, what is wrong with you? Do like they were just making a
842
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:14.360
joke, but then if you think
about the joke they made, it has
843
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.150
some really nice I'm like, yeah, so I have on my nose.
844
00:57:16.190 --> 00:57:20.550
Did he have his dick out while
making a Samuel? Okay, this I
845
00:57:20.710 --> 00:57:25.269
mentioned. This really bothered me so
pointless. But that first scene where Ali's
846
00:57:25.349 --> 00:57:30.659
walking with her friends, M her
middle friend, the babysitter one has a
847
00:57:30.980 --> 00:57:35.780
halfful thing of Boba tea and she
literally never drinks it. She'll raise it
848
00:57:35.860 --> 00:57:37.820
to her mouth and then put it
down. And she raised her mouth and
849
00:57:37.860 --> 00:57:40.659
then put it down as gross.
Now you're wrong I do not. I
850
00:57:40.739 --> 00:57:45.610
do not like the texture of the
weird stuff in the bottom. Thank it
851
00:57:45.929 --> 00:57:52.210
different. I'm a I'm just drink
coffee, get jelly or bursting. No,
852
00:57:52.610 --> 00:57:53.929
no, if know we're all of
that. No, none of that
853
00:57:54.010 --> 00:57:59.679
should be in tea. But yes, I did not notice that at all.
854
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:01.880
And I've seen this movie like three
just I saw it. Well,
855
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:04.480
because I saw it, I was
like, Oh, should he bob with
856
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:06.440
tea? And then I was just
what? For some reason, I I
857
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.159
just gravit hit to watching the Bobadie
and she literally like pulls up her mouth,
858
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:12.599
puts her mouth on the straw like
she's going to take a sip and
859
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:14.909
then puts it back down. And
then every time she liked picked it up
860
00:58:14.909 --> 00:58:15.750
and then it will cut and then
to put it by it. So look
861
00:58:15.829 --> 00:58:20.989
like she's never takes a single SIP. As I like, craft services clearly
862
00:58:21.070 --> 00:58:22.429
messed up. They didn't give it. Like why would you give her Boba
863
00:58:22.469 --> 00:58:25.710
te? She's not guy. Never, nothing ever goes up the straw at
864
00:58:25.750 --> 00:58:29.059
that was just a weird thing that
I that I saw, that nobody else
865
00:58:29.099 --> 00:58:32.340
noticed. It was stupid. Just
also really like Bobati. I do idea.
866
00:58:36.059 --> 00:58:39.659
So I didn't realize it's I'm looking
at Internet movie database because that's a
867
00:58:39.780 --> 00:58:46.449
thing I do. The the dad
with the weird you know, butter he
868
00:58:46.650 --> 00:58:51.130
is played. He is played by
right, he's played by Toby Huss.
869
00:58:51.369 --> 00:58:53.050
I don't know if either of you
ever watched the adventures of Pete and Pete.
870
00:58:53.210 --> 00:58:57.599
That no day. Thank. Oh, okay, so that is a
871
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.719
nickelodeon classic. You should watch it. He is Arti, the strongest man
872
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:05.039
in the world. Oh wait,
oh, now you know what I'm talking
873
00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:09.110
about. How he's also text on
glow. If you all have ever watched
874
00:59:09.190 --> 00:59:13.269
cloth? Nope, no, he
shows up in the most recent season.
875
00:59:13.510 --> 00:59:15.750
Yeah, anyway, sorry, random
aside, random aside, but yeah,
876
00:59:16.030 --> 00:59:21.869
he is art the strongest man.
Halloween also took quite a while to get
877
00:59:21.909 --> 00:59:24.539
going. So, but, but
I thought it was my original Halloween.
878
00:59:24.539 --> 00:59:27.940
Kind of did. Oh, yeah, I know, the pace of I
879
00:59:27.980 --> 00:59:30.539
thought the pacing was yeah, I
thought the pace was fine. I didn't
880
00:59:30.539 --> 00:59:32.059
have a problem. I didn't have
a because they they took time to establish
881
00:59:32.099 --> 00:59:36.900
the family in the characters, right, and then Laur's paranoia, uh,
882
00:59:37.380 --> 00:59:40.650
and then Michael escapes and then it's
kind of when is it when he's going
883
00:59:40.730 --> 00:59:45.809
to basically hit that hit that apex. I think probably the most harrowing scene
884
00:59:45.889 --> 00:59:49.050
is when Michael is in the Halloween
Party just like walking house to house murdering
885
00:59:49.130 --> 00:59:54.159
people. Right, I'm although he
definitely does some teleporting as he walks,
886
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:58.119
like the speed at which so there's
the one where it pans over. I
887
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:01.440
thought it was really good cinematography because
if he used a lot of still shots,
888
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:06.039
like non moving shots, static shots
and where you just see people move
889
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:07.150
around. So there was the one
where it pans over to the window in
890
01:00:07.190 --> 01:00:10.630
the house and you see Michael Walk
past the window on the side right and
891
01:00:10.710 --> 01:00:14.510
then walk in and murder the person, although like to get back and around
892
01:00:14.550 --> 01:00:16.550
and and but I thought was really
good shot, even if it made Michael
893
01:00:16.710 --> 01:00:22.300
like lightning speed. So well,
in they're employing these same camera techniques.
894
01:00:22.340 --> 01:00:24.579
Yeah, they used to Halloween.
You you have the the over the shoulder,
895
01:00:24.699 --> 01:00:29.460
so you're yeah, my guess,
perspective. So in the this the
896
01:00:29.579 --> 01:00:32.579
scene that you're referencing. While you
know, he's walking around, while everybody's
897
01:00:32.579 --> 01:00:37.969
trick or treating, the trick or
treaters are wearing silver shamrock halloween mess,
898
01:00:37.010 --> 01:00:39.650
which is from Halloween three season,
the which you mean season over, the
899
01:00:39.650 --> 01:00:45.650
VIVIC season? No, season the
witch, which is universally panned. Also,
900
01:00:45.769 --> 01:00:49.889
I have and I have mytal Mosh
just this. So okay, I
901
01:00:49.969 --> 01:00:52.880
know what. I know what.
I have this. So when Michael Escapes,
902
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.119
right, the kid in his dad
pull up and Michael totally kills that
903
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:58.960
kid. Yep. So I have
my Dan. They ice that kid.
904
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:01.519
Yep. I do appreciate that.
The cops take it seriously, right,
905
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:05.670
although the one cop is like,
we're not gonna like, we're not gonna
906
01:01:05.670 --> 01:01:08.269
be able to do anything. Right, but coach, coach from Rember,
907
01:01:08.269 --> 01:01:12.150
the titans. HMM, he take
out, which I love that actor.
908
01:01:12.630 --> 01:01:15.590
He takes it seriously. When he
kills the reporters, which like halfway through
909
01:01:15.590 --> 01:01:19.780
the film, when Michael Kills the
reporters, the podcasters. Yeah, Oh,
910
01:01:19.980 --> 01:01:22.699
yeah, well, that was that
was fairly fairly early. But that
911
01:01:22.900 --> 01:01:27.300
that's that's that's a kill scene from
Halloween four or five. Yeah, so
912
01:01:27.579 --> 01:01:31.219
so it's like halfway through the whole
too. Thing was weird. Yeah,
913
01:01:31.739 --> 01:01:36.210
but the the the kill in the
batter, Oh, yeah, that sends.
914
01:01:36.369 --> 01:01:38.289
That's from four or five. That
scene is really intense. I thought
915
01:01:38.329 --> 01:01:42.050
that it was a pretty pretty good
scene. But that the whole dropping.
916
01:01:42.090 --> 01:01:45.769
The two things were reporters. Yeah, yeah, that's a little bit scary.
917
01:01:45.849 --> 01:01:49.159
And then what? Okay, so
the kind of turning point was when
918
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:54.639
coach sees who's again don't remember his
name, police, police guy from remember
919
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:59.639
the titans, sees Michael and is
like thing popped and just like runs his
920
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:01.750
ass down. HMM, and it
gets out to double tap him, and
921
01:02:01.750 --> 01:02:06.469
the doctor, who has a pen
knife for some reason, right kills him.
922
01:02:06.510 --> 01:02:09.389
I thought that they were going to
actually kill Michael and then have this
923
01:02:09.510 --> 01:02:12.949
guy take over as Michael. That
would have been a really interesting you know,
924
01:02:12.989 --> 01:02:15.070
I had that same thought when I
saw it in the theater. Yeah,
925
01:02:15.110 --> 01:02:16.619
that would have been a really interesting
thing. That happens and they just
926
01:02:16.699 --> 01:02:21.579
I think I understand why, because
then then it wouldn't really make sense from
927
01:02:21.579 --> 01:02:22.860
hut down Moore. I mean they
could probably explain it. Yeah, because
928
01:02:22.860 --> 01:02:24.980
he puts on the mask right,
but it was a little weird that they
929
01:02:25.019 --> 01:02:28.900
were just like and he killed the
doctor. Okay, that this is literally
930
01:02:28.940 --> 01:02:30.610
just a get Michael Myers out of
jail free card, right and then.
931
01:02:30.730 --> 01:02:35.329
And then, okay, so here's
so again I realized we're dealing with my
932
01:02:35.530 --> 01:02:37.849
like okay, so this is the
thing where Michael was the most magical.
933
01:02:37.250 --> 01:02:42.289
Okay, they finally get to the
house, right, and all that poor
934
01:02:42.449 --> 01:02:45.320
poor guy who was just trying to
afford doofy guy who's just trying to get
935
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:49.159
some got he got did dirt even
deserved die like that. The Chubby Guy,
936
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:53.079
Oh yeah, yeah, what's his
I'm looking after she dumped douchebag.
937
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:57.599
Yeah, like I wasn't usual.
Thing the other way. It wasn't that
938
01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:00.909
much better. But Oscar Oscar,
that's yeah, Oscar Oscar. Oscar's death
939
01:03:01.030 --> 01:03:06.030
was pretty old. Yikes. Okay, kills are pretty pretty intense. HMM.
940
01:03:06.190 --> 01:03:09.349
All of them were. And again, so many of them were mirrors
941
01:03:09.510 --> 01:03:14.380
of yeah, kills and other helloween
films. Yeah, I wrote paper on
942
01:03:14.460 --> 01:03:20.500
that. Man comes when he dooche's
doctor's head. That was that was pretty
943
01:03:20.500 --> 01:03:23.219
dy gross. Yeah, but,
but, but they all get to the
944
01:03:23.260 --> 01:03:29.090
strode house, the strobe lockdown mansion, HMM, and the dad goes outside,
945
01:03:29.250 --> 01:03:32.730
peanut butter penis goes outside to seize
the COP car pull up, cocker
946
01:03:32.769 --> 01:03:36.889
pulls up, which is Michael was
driving. It opens the door and there's
947
01:03:36.889 --> 01:03:40.050
a dead cop and then the dead, like a skin dead COP's face with
948
01:03:40.130 --> 01:03:43.800
a flashlight in it. When did
he have time to set that up?
949
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:46.079
Because he pulled up in the dad
is walking towards the car, which was
950
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:49.440
Michael, set the body up,
set the flashlight thing up, got out
951
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:51.840
of the other car and then walked
away the six of these seven foot tall
952
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.599
bit he was supposed to be this
colossus and he sometime gets behind it like
953
01:03:55.429 --> 01:04:00.190
a little much. Have any notes? Arts and crafts? Michael clearly like
954
01:04:00.429 --> 01:04:04.349
supernatural on the other films as well. So yeah, I think have fine.
955
01:04:04.349 --> 01:04:06.590
I think. Oh yeah, I
think for storytelling purposes it's fine,
956
01:04:06.909 --> 01:04:10.780
although they kind of humanize him a
little bit in this one, which it
957
01:04:10.820 --> 01:04:14.579
was weird guy. I think that
you just like left the mystery. Yeah,
958
01:04:15.019 --> 01:04:16.659
not a huge complaint. Not a
huge complaint, but that, but
959
01:04:16.739 --> 01:04:20.900
that one in particular was like that's
a little too much because, like he's
960
01:04:20.980 --> 01:04:24.369
being super arts because, like,
what was the purpose of that? He's
961
01:04:24.369 --> 01:04:28.210
just gonna kill this guy, like
look what I'm Ay. So it's a
962
01:04:28.250 --> 01:04:31.050
little weaker. There are so much
I really, really love about this film.
963
01:04:31.170 --> 01:04:36.849
Just I love the visual homage to
every other Halloween film while simultaneously ignoring
964
01:04:36.889 --> 01:04:42.280
all of their content. I think
that's Hilarious and again I think candy the
965
01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:44.519
the new candy man, is going
to do a similar thing, making this
966
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:47.360
a spiritual sequel the original, and
that that's what I think this film is.
967
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:51.760
Also, this is the first Halloween
film that John Carpenter has been involved
968
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:58.110
with since Halloween to HMM. He
and his son and another guy actually did
969
01:04:58.150 --> 01:05:01.030
all the music yes film, which
is incredible. I don't I don't score.
970
01:05:01.030 --> 01:05:05.230
It was unlike candy man. I
don't think it popped out at me
971
01:05:05.429 --> 01:05:10.260
much because it wasn't quite it wasn't
bombasting. was more background for the most
972
01:05:10.300 --> 01:05:14.780
part. There was one part was
like since with the not the rave part.
973
01:05:15.059 --> 01:05:17.820
Know the I think what you're referring
to is it's actually called help.
974
01:05:17.940 --> 01:05:21.130
This name of the song is Halloween
Triumphant, and it's you're referring to the
975
01:05:21.289 --> 01:05:24.809
the song is played over the end
credits. I don't know. I don't
976
01:05:24.809 --> 01:05:26.849
know. The music did. The
music did not stick in my head the
977
01:05:26.889 --> 01:05:30.130
way candy man's did. Halloween is
my favorite horror movie score, and I
978
01:05:30.210 --> 01:05:33.090
think it's because it's so interesting.
I've heard thought I'm a drummer. I'm
979
01:05:33.130 --> 01:05:38.199
a sucker for anything with like a
like a pulsing kick drum beat like this
980
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:41.760
has. Also, it's so interesting
because this is a this is scores in
981
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:47.480
five four time, which is unusual. The what I really liked about here's
982
01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:49.630
a here's a thing like you,
that you have the you know, you
983
01:05:49.710 --> 01:05:55.789
have the score. Then the opening
credits, it's it's the opening credits for
984
01:05:55.869 --> 01:06:00.389
Halloween in reverse, because the PUMPKIN
is coming back to life. It's it's
985
01:06:01.070 --> 01:06:05.699
it. For me, that was
that just opening shot of the jackalanern is.
986
01:06:06.059 --> 01:06:10.579
It is a visual signal of this
is what this movie is going to
987
01:06:10.619 --> 01:06:13.500
do. It's going to take the
other one, the original film, and
988
01:06:13.659 --> 01:06:17.380
invert and that that is what yes, entire film is is is an inversion
989
01:06:17.420 --> 01:06:20.369
of that, while also still paying
homage to the rest of the hollow and
990
01:06:20.409 --> 01:06:23.809
can yeah, so, so,
like right at the end when Michael finally
991
01:06:23.849 --> 01:06:29.130
gets to the House and starts fighting
with Lori, and it is really an
992
01:06:29.210 --> 01:06:33.159
inversion of almost one to one.
Oh yeah, of the original Halloween with
993
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:36.079
with the roles reversed, right.
So, like she falls out of the
994
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:41.880
window and now we'll say so first
thing when they know Michael's there's something that
995
01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:44.000
turned on the lights. I feel
like, as soon as you got that,
996
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:45.719
you should turn the lights on.
But but, okay, also,
997
01:06:46.389 --> 01:06:50.349
this, this bothered me, even
though it looked Badass. Lori picked a
998
01:06:50.389 --> 01:06:55.630
rifle with an incredibly long barrel to
try to sweep the house. It's so
999
01:06:55.869 --> 01:06:59.349
bad because if someone's sitting right behind
the door frame, your gun barrel poks
1000
01:06:59.349 --> 01:07:00.940
and first they can just grab your
gun barrel and disarmed. So it was
1001
01:07:00.980 --> 01:07:04.420
like a really bad especially considering how
many weapons she hadn't how prepared she was
1002
01:07:04.460 --> 01:07:09.019
for this. It was like a
an actually bad decision to pick that gun.
1003
01:07:09.099 --> 01:07:11.539
And I realized they picked it for
the visual. Yeah, but I'm
1004
01:07:11.579 --> 01:07:14.619
like, Lori would have picked like
a short barreled shotgun, like a sawed
1005
01:07:14.659 --> 01:07:17.650
off something that you can flip around
corners really fast, so that that someone
1006
01:07:17.690 --> 01:07:20.289
who has never shot a gun.
I did not think that. Yeah,
1007
01:07:20.409 --> 01:07:23.889
but of course, like in my
head, as I'm thinking of the visual,
1008
01:07:24.050 --> 01:07:28.690
like her holding Oh yeah, you're
good, is like yeah, that's
1009
01:07:28.769 --> 01:07:31.559
realistic. Probably what should have happened, like her holding the shotgun is like
1010
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:35.480
yeah, yeah, so that was
really, really cool. But by absolute
1011
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:49.230
favorite moments Gotcha Bang. Yeah,
that was that was a I was like,
1012
01:07:49.389 --> 01:07:54.429
well, are they gonna die and
then, and then that was a
1013
01:07:54.510 --> 01:07:56.630
really good moment. I answered that
a lot. Yeah, and you know
1014
01:07:56.710 --> 01:08:01.900
the whole line where the dinner scene
where Laur says, well, if my
1015
01:08:02.019 --> 01:08:06.820
daughter hates me, but I have
prepared her for the realities and the evils
1016
01:08:06.860 --> 01:08:11.739
of this world, then I can
live with that. And and and and
1017
01:08:12.340 --> 01:08:16.609
while, yes, I understand why
Karen has these hang ups with her mother,
1018
01:08:17.649 --> 01:08:23.770
I'm blaming this old thing on you. It was it's that same thing
1019
01:08:24.130 --> 01:08:27.399
that trained her and equipped her for
that moment. Right. And you know
1020
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.239
they're doing two more of these movies, right, and that, and that's
1021
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:32.920
the thing, right, because she
grabs her gun off was a off the
1022
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:35.640
rack. Yeah, so that I
thought that was that was really cool,
1023
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:41.869
just to have these these great you
know, it's kind of a toss up
1024
01:08:41.949 --> 01:08:44.550
in my in my mind, and
I think it's only it's only toss up
1025
01:08:44.550 --> 01:08:49.029
because of how Halloween has treated Hannon. The Halloween Franchises Treat Canon as if
1026
01:08:49.789 --> 01:08:57.859
she's yourn adventure, pretty much like
cannon, but like that cass up.
1027
01:08:58.420 --> 01:09:00.819
Lookin, Miss what you thinking?
Mess, exactly like the toss up for
1028
01:09:00.899 --> 01:09:06.739
the ultimate final girl and any horror
franchises either between Laurie strode or Sydney in
1029
01:09:08.300 --> 01:09:12.729
about Ripley? Well, I think
I tend to think of alien is more
1030
01:09:13.210 --> 01:09:16.010
SCI FI and Siecie with horror elements. Yeah, yeah, so, but
1031
01:09:16.369 --> 01:09:19.649
but, yeah, it's still I
think you can categories as categorize that as
1032
01:09:19.649 --> 01:09:21.890
a horror movie. Maybe not so
much any of the other ones, except
1033
01:09:23.010 --> 01:09:27.359
resurrection. Yeah, but anyway,
like toss up between Marie and Sidney for
1034
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.760
like ultimate final girl. And now
like at the end of this film we've
1035
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:32.880
got three ultimate final girls and I'm
like, yes, I am here for
1036
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:36.199
this, this is awesome. Yeah, I liked being able to see the
1037
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:41.430
dynamic of the family right and just
even like so I've only seen the original
1038
01:09:41.670 --> 01:09:45.510
Halloween and then the twenty seen,
Oh cool one. So I have not
1039
01:09:45.710 --> 01:09:47.430
seen like all the ones in between. I have not either, but I
1040
01:09:47.510 --> 01:09:51.789
also appreciated that that like to watch
this one, I did not need to
1041
01:09:51.859 --> 01:09:55.939
see right all of the red ones. Granted, I didn't get all of
1042
01:09:56.100 --> 01:10:00.460
the symbolism and things like that,
which homage is that they do, which
1043
01:10:00.460 --> 01:10:03.619
I think at some level is actually
like a really good makes makes it a
1044
01:10:03.739 --> 01:10:08.729
better movie that you we can appreciate
it. Having just watched the original and
1045
01:10:08.890 --> 01:10:11.449
this one. Ask. This one's
like a seat TREX Equel to the original.
1046
01:10:11.489 --> 01:10:14.770
Yeah, but someone who's invested in
the Halloween franchise can appreciate all the
1047
01:10:14.770 --> 01:10:16.770
little bits. and well, that's
how I felt about detective Pikachu the movie.
1048
01:10:16.810 --> 01:10:19.890
Oh yeah, because like you can
go into that knowing nothing about Pokemon
1049
01:10:19.970 --> 01:10:24.359
and just enjoy the movie or,
you know, knowing like the bass level
1050
01:10:24.399 --> 01:10:26.520
of what a Pokemon is, because
it assumes you know that, right.
1051
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:29.920
Yeah, or you can go in
being a pokemon Fan. Mean, like
1052
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:32.319
there's that and that and that.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I feel
1053
01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:36.149
like they did it really I feel
like that's always like the line of handering
1054
01:10:36.229 --> 01:10:41.390
two fans in a way that won't
doesn't interfere with rest the movie, right.
1055
01:10:41.470 --> 01:10:45.829
And I think another thing that does
that really well is, I actually
1056
01:10:45.869 --> 01:10:48.390
talked about this in my Halloween presentation. There are two film and Television series
1057
01:10:48.430 --> 01:10:53.699
that I think really do this well. One is stranger things. Stronger Thong.
1058
01:10:54.939 --> 01:10:58.380
Nope, that is the correct way
to say it. Stronger Thong.
1059
01:10:58.500 --> 01:11:02.779
That is incorrect. Please try again, but actually don't give you send a
1060
01:11:02.859 --> 01:11:09.250
word. But anyway, like so, like when I watch stranger things and
1061
01:11:09.289 --> 01:11:11.970
then when Ryan, my husband,
watch stranger things. He and I had
1062
01:11:12.010 --> 01:11:16.449
two completely different experiences because, while
he is familiar with some of the the
1063
01:11:16.569 --> 01:11:19.760
things stranger things draws from, those
are a lot more fresh in my mind
1064
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:25.399
than they are his, and I
nerdered out on a completely different level than
1065
01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:28.800
he did. And yet we both
still enjoyed it. And I can watch
1066
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:31.439
stranger things my mentors daughter, who
has no clue about and thing from the
1067
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:35.109
s because she's like sixteen. Yeah, other than what she's seen on stranger
1068
01:11:35.189 --> 01:11:40.430
things and like a handful of s
films. But she also enjoyed it like
1069
01:11:40.630 --> 01:11:44.149
so I think that's the mark of
just good storytelling. Yeah, and so.
1070
01:11:44.630 --> 01:11:46.180
But and hereditary, I think,
is the other one that does that
1071
01:11:46.300 --> 01:11:50.939
really, really well, because it
draws from all these different horror films while,
1072
01:11:50.979 --> 01:11:56.100
say, simultaneously telling its own story. Have you seen the the knockoff
1073
01:11:56.100 --> 01:12:00.060
about the barbershop heredit? Terry?
No, I can't say so. I'm
1074
01:12:00.180 --> 01:12:06.130
civilized. Yeah. Yeah, final
thoughts on Halloween, and that was one
1075
01:12:06.170 --> 01:12:09.770
where I thought it was really good. I don't know that I go back
1076
01:12:09.810 --> 01:12:12.409
and Rewatch it, but I you
know, I could recommend it. I
1077
01:12:12.449 --> 01:12:15.369
could recommend watching it. Yeah,
I feel like I want to go back
1078
01:12:15.489 --> 01:12:18.199
and watch it. I feel like
it would be interesting to watch the original
1079
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:23.279
like Halloween, and then right afterwards
watch, yeah, yeah, to have
1080
01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:26.119
them both fresh. Yeah. Well, we watched Greg and I watched the
1081
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:30.109
original Halloween for the last four podcast
we did, so it was pretty fresh
1082
01:12:30.189 --> 01:12:33.270
for me. Okay, yeah,
so I halloween is my favorite horror movies,
1083
01:12:33.550 --> 01:12:38.069
so Oh ge or this one,
Oh gee. But this is the
1084
01:12:38.189 --> 01:12:41.909
only, only one of the Halloween
seagulls, and while I still enjoy all
1085
01:12:41.949 --> 01:12:44.859
of them on different levels, this
is the only one that I love as
1086
01:12:44.939 --> 01:12:48.140
much as the original, and I
think it's just because of how the these
1087
01:12:48.260 --> 01:12:53.180
directors are. They're writing a love
letter to John Carpenter, hmm, and
1088
01:12:53.659 --> 01:12:56.220
the fact that they get, actually
got John Carpenter to come back and do
1089
01:12:56.979 --> 01:13:00.489
anything, do anything with another Halloween
film is impressive to me. So that
1090
01:13:00.689 --> 01:13:04.770
tells me that he is also happy
with what they're doing. So I'm really
1091
01:13:04.810 --> 01:13:08.770
excited to see Halloween kills, which
is the next one is supposed to be
1092
01:13:08.810 --> 01:13:12.409
out, and I think so everything's
twenty and twenty one now. Yeah,
1093
01:13:12.609 --> 01:13:15.239
just about. So I'm really excited
to see what they do with these other
1094
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:23.720
two films. Also because coronavirus.
was like yeah, basically, but yeah,
1095
01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:26.640
I love, Love, love,
Jamie Lee Curtis. I've seen her
1096
01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:29.470
in a lot of different things aside. Thank you, Friday, Whoo hey
1097
01:13:29.550 --> 01:13:31.869
movie. I've ever seen freaking Friday. It's good. I'm thinking, but
1098
01:13:32.630 --> 01:13:38.069
the first, but it's good.
It's back before Lindsay Lohan went in saying
1099
01:13:38.149 --> 01:13:44.699
yeah, like freaky Friday and parent
trap. I've mostly seen her in Christians
1100
01:13:44.699 --> 01:13:48.899
of the cranks. There was another
one I saw her in that I had
1101
01:13:48.979 --> 01:13:54.220
completely different context for her outside the
horror genre. And then so when I
1102
01:13:54.260 --> 01:13:57.289
finally went and watched Halloween, I
was like, Oh wow, like I've
1103
01:13:57.329 --> 01:13:59.850
never seen her as a young woman
before. Is like she's really beautiful,
1104
01:13:59.890 --> 01:14:03.970
like and then watching this I'm like
she kicks so much, but I just
1105
01:14:04.170 --> 01:14:08.050
love it. It's so great,
so great. Yeah, really, I
1106
01:14:08.529 --> 01:14:15.199
totally costplayed Loris drode while doing giving
my holloway presentation at this Gygoys, like
1107
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:18.840
how it showed like the effect of
the drama. Yeah, that was really
1108
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:21.920
a list. Yeah, really,
I thought that was really good. Yeah,
1109
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:25.270
because it's just like, I don't
know, instead of them just like
1110
01:14:25.550 --> 01:14:29.310
going often her living her like normal
life, like yeah, she was able
1111
01:14:29.310 --> 01:14:32.270
to have a family and stuff,
but like this affected every ass man,
1112
01:14:32.989 --> 01:14:38.470
and understandably so. Right, yeah, like like I don't feel like it
1113
01:14:38.659 --> 01:14:41.180
was unrealistic for her. Right,
yeah, in that way at all,
1114
01:14:41.220 --> 01:14:45.619
even with like years of therapy.
Hmmm. Last movie we watched. All
1115
01:14:45.619 --> 01:14:48.100
right, I forgot to watch the
which. I don't know why. It's
1116
01:14:48.100 --> 01:14:53.770
okay, we can will visit that
one another time. But because that's that's
1117
01:14:53.810 --> 01:14:57.609
a really great song. I'll have
to do candy man to Leper Con Seven,
1118
01:14:59.409 --> 01:15:02.369
to which and then like light house. Oh yeah, because that's the
1119
01:15:02.409 --> 01:15:10.479
same directors record. HMM, live
house. It did not look here.
1120
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:12.600
It's a really great film. That's
probably going to be one I'm only going
1121
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:15.439
to want to watch once. Yeah, look like one of those. I
1122
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:18.079
watch it again, like for the
podcast and everything. I really liked it.
1123
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:21.670
I didn't really. I saw that
in theaters. Okay, HMM,
1124
01:15:21.909 --> 01:15:26.710
anyway, anywhere, anyway, anyway. Oh Man, I guess we got
1125
01:15:26.789 --> 01:15:29.109
to wrap up. All right,
US man, that was a good movie.
1126
01:15:29.109 --> 01:15:32.310
US, I love, Love,
love Jordan people. Yeah, so,
1127
01:15:32.510 --> 01:15:35.659
so I noticing one of the themes
of these horror movies is that the
1128
01:15:35.859 --> 01:15:42.140
the ones I've enjoyed have done a
really good job of building characters, HMM,
1129
01:15:42.460 --> 01:15:46.460
and not really hit the gun on
crazy murder until about halfway through.
1130
01:15:47.020 --> 01:15:49.890
Then I like I'm now, I'm
investing these characters and then it starts ratcheting
1131
01:15:49.930 --> 01:15:55.970
up until like the it's like one
Third World Building and character development, then
1132
01:15:56.050 --> 01:16:00.609
one third ratcheting tensions and one third
insane finale. Yeah, the acting was
1133
01:16:00.729 --> 01:16:03.050
probably the best all. I can't
even his acting was really good too,
1134
01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:06.640
and so holl long was good.
But but I think the acting was just
1135
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:12.399
from everyone was and everyone's playing two
characters right. and Oh yeah, by
1136
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:15.520
the way, major spoilers for us. If you haven't seen it, you
1137
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:20.350
don't want it spoiled, stop listening
right now. The next next time.
1138
01:16:20.710 --> 01:16:25.949
So so I just have like here
my notes. Nice character building, good
1139
01:16:25.989 --> 01:16:29.350
action, tensions rising, and this
is like, you know, thirty minutes
1140
01:16:29.430 --> 01:16:32.460
in. And then that first scene, where the where the there the the,
1141
01:16:33.220 --> 01:16:41.460
that first scene where the tethered family
comes in, if that's just that's
1142
01:16:41.699 --> 01:16:45.899
the one clip I managed to get
was when the happening. That's happening and
1143
01:16:45.979 --> 01:16:49.010
they come by and pick up the
out door key and and it is like
1144
01:16:49.050 --> 01:16:54.569
they found that they found hidden key
and the yeah, as like hidden key,
1145
01:16:55.850 --> 01:17:01.680
a watch white people. Yeah,
it's a key, but when they
1146
01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:04.960
can she sits down and starts talking. My note is just, Holy Shits,
1147
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:12.520
sleeping and young. Yeah, so
one. I I saw US three
1148
01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:16.310
times because I love it so much. But I was so, so,
1149
01:17:16.750 --> 01:17:21.470
so, so angry this year when
they released Oscar nominations and Loupet was nowhere
1150
01:17:21.550 --> 01:17:27.310
on that list. Okay, yeah, that's like if you academy, Academy,
1151
01:17:27.310 --> 01:17:30.140
stupid, because they don't recognize legitimately
on the amazing performance. Yes,
1152
01:17:30.220 --> 01:17:33.539
yes, I mean, and again
this is this is the sci Fi,
1153
01:17:33.979 --> 01:17:38.500
fantasy horror snub. Gosh, Lupeza. Um, I thought she, I
1154
01:17:38.579 --> 01:17:42.220
mean obviously she was amazing, but
I was really, really impressed with Evan
1155
01:17:42.260 --> 01:17:46.689
Alex, who played the Sun Jake. Yeah, that, I'm sorry,
1156
01:17:46.770 --> 01:17:50.130
that little evil like scamper that he
does. Yeah, Oh my God,
1157
01:17:50.250 --> 01:17:54.850
freaks up hell out of me.
Yeah, my God, he was amazing.
1158
01:17:54.970 --> 01:18:00.159
And the constant purring mark, like
her dog purring Crown, yeah,
1159
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:03.840
prowling that like that he doing eat
that entire scene. He's yeah, yeah,
1160
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:08.560
growl thing. Yeah, I mean
everyone, everyone was great in that
1161
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:11.119
film. There were no bad actors
in that foot all. No, I
1162
01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:14.550
was also, you guys talked about
the score in like candy man and everything,
1163
01:18:14.989 --> 01:18:17.430
the music, and Oh my gosh, that open actually have a did
1164
01:18:17.550 --> 01:18:21.149
note sient. But Oh yeah,
I like that's the original score. The
1165
01:18:21.189 --> 01:18:28.100
original score was so good. The
the Latin singing, I'm fat. That's
1166
01:18:28.220 --> 01:18:30.699
not Latin. That's not Latin.
I ever because I thought it was Latin
1167
01:18:30.779 --> 01:18:33.500
too, because they say something,
they say something that I recognized as a
1168
01:18:33.539 --> 01:18:38.220
Latin word, but I wouldn't looked
it up afterwards. It is all nonsense
1169
01:18:38.300 --> 01:18:42.010
words and I was so angry.
So it's kind of like dull the faces.
1170
01:18:42.289 --> 01:18:45.010
Yeah, he's actually he like Sanskrit
words and do interesting. Okay,
1171
01:18:45.489 --> 01:18:48.689
all I know is like I was
watching it with my roommate and that music
1172
01:18:48.770 --> 01:18:51.529
came on and I just immediately went
new, no, no, no,
1173
01:18:54.010 --> 01:18:56.279
was like, what's wrong with you? I was like it's music. She
1174
01:18:56.439 --> 01:19:00.079
was like why and I was like
MMM, no, I'm just immediately like,
1175
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:02.039
but in like a good way,
if that makes any sense. Like
1176
01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:06.479
yeah, music came on and I
was immediately just like this is all right,
1177
01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:10.710
I think I found it and that
name of that song is called anthems.
1178
01:19:10.909 --> 01:19:14.470
It was really well shot. It
looked great and the acting was phenomenal.
1179
01:19:14.550 --> 01:19:16.789
And again, it spends like a
lot of time establishing the characters in
1180
01:19:16.829 --> 01:19:23.390
the family and all this before about
thirty or forty minutes in when that first
1181
01:19:23.430 --> 01:19:25.659
thing happens. And it, you
know, made me think. I think
1182
01:19:25.739 --> 01:19:30.020
home invasion is the scariest. Is
The scariest for our thing. That's like
1183
01:19:30.180 --> 01:19:32.420
that's the one that you could actually
see happening. Maybe not, probably would
1184
01:19:32.420 --> 01:19:35.140
not be nearly as horrific as as
these movies make it out to be,
1185
01:19:35.539 --> 01:19:41.170
like, let's be honest, but
but that's like that's the real that's the
1186
01:19:41.289 --> 01:19:43.770
real scary thing. Is like,
well, what if, you know,
1187
01:19:43.930 --> 01:19:45.970
some point bust into your home and
started, you know, murdering people?
1188
01:19:46.090 --> 01:19:49.090
Like? That's really scary. Well, like, it's your home. Is
1189
01:19:49.130 --> 01:19:54.960
supposed to be a safe right,
right. It's a violation of of your
1190
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:58.439
sanctuary. Yeah, which is,
you know, one of the things that
1191
01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:02.399
makes it really, really terrifying.
So I have lots and lots of notes
1192
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:05.960
about this that are in my head
that I'm currently writing down because I want
1193
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:11.069
to talk about all of them.
But I see what's been going on.
1194
01:20:11.270 --> 01:20:14.470
Yeah, I got yeah, yet, but you get yeah, I hear
1195
01:20:14.510 --> 01:20:46.810
it. So I why? I
guess not that it's I feel like,
1196
01:20:47.010 --> 01:20:51.359
Um, a good soundtrack is crucial
in a lot of films, right before
1197
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:56.840
a horror movie where you're trying to
maintaining certain tension right, it's absolutely crucial.
1198
01:20:56.960 --> 01:20:59.279
That's why I thought one of the
low one of the not lowest,
1199
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:00.399
points of the movie. I think
the whole movie was very good. One
1200
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:04.550
of the parts of the movie that
I think maybe should have been toned back
1201
01:21:05.310 --> 01:21:10.869
was the scene where there in the
neighbor's house and it's playing the police by
1202
01:21:10.869 --> 01:21:14.470
Nwa. That was that was which
way in the theater where I legit left,
1203
01:21:14.750 --> 01:21:16.949
right, right exactly, and it's
like this horrible tension and then the
1204
01:21:17.109 --> 01:21:20.500
the the twins like come out and
stab them and it's like what the when
1205
01:21:20.500 --> 01:21:27.260
it was playing the hold, I
wrote it down the vibrations that one was
1206
01:21:27.380 --> 01:21:29.779
like and then they's like step out
and kill all of them and still playing
1207
01:21:29.779 --> 01:21:31.859
good vibrations. That was like,
you know, jarring. But then she
1208
01:21:32.050 --> 01:21:35.770
was she was like I like how
they had they had an it was ophelia
1209
01:21:39.289 --> 01:21:45.609
police playing for the police by and
which was hilarious but like kind of spoiled
1210
01:21:45.649 --> 01:21:47.600
the tension a little bit. And
there were. There were just a couple
1211
01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:51.319
things. See, I thought that
was necessary at that point. I enjoyed
1212
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:55.920
it's I think it was good and
kind of calming me down, which which,
1213
01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:58.039
you know what, is fine if
a horror movie doesn't want to be
1214
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:00.840
like, I don't want people to
die of stress. At the end of
1215
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:02.270
this movie. I thought it was
still a really effected movie. I don't
1216
01:22:02.270 --> 01:22:05.109
think this, I don't think this
makes it a worse movie, but I
1217
01:22:05.189 --> 01:22:09.909
think they could have he could have
Jordan, people could have chosen to just
1218
01:22:10.069 --> 01:22:12.829
have it be super tense the entire
time. I think it would have been
1219
01:22:12.989 --> 01:22:17.539
even scarier. I have, Holy
Shit, the dattle Ganger kill. That
1220
01:22:17.819 --> 01:22:23.979
was the the when they all fighting
their doppelgangers. The Dad's fight was and
1221
01:22:24.180 --> 01:22:27.300
the like struggling, shrugging, and
then he headbuts the engine just like God,
1222
01:22:29.100 --> 01:22:31.850
yeah, it was really intense.
But the I really like the dad
1223
01:22:32.010 --> 01:22:40.489
was so funny when he's fighting with
the neighbors doppelganger, the flare. HMM.
1224
01:22:42.850 --> 01:22:45.520
Yeah. Also, even when they
got in the car and then they
1225
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:49.319
were but she was like I have
the most kill, so yeah, driving
1226
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:54.399
right one. So that, to
me, the the the the jokey stuff
1227
01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:57.520
to me was like okay, fine, I'm okay with this. You know,
1228
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:00.510
ratchet at ten, ten just a
little bit so I can breathe again.
1229
01:23:00.869 --> 01:23:03.350
I was fine with that. That
part, and and the part where
1230
01:23:03.390 --> 01:23:06.949
the right earlier, where they're discussing
like leaving, I feel like they were
1231
01:23:06.989 --> 01:23:11.590
a little too calm, like their
voices were too calm, especially when you
1232
01:23:11.630 --> 01:23:15.460
look at the terror and shock on
their faces. I feel like their deliveries
1233
01:23:15.539 --> 01:23:18.460
didn't quite match their faces and they
were like I have the highest skill calm,
1234
01:23:18.579 --> 01:23:21.300
like what kid is going to say
that after they just had to kill
1235
01:23:21.340 --> 01:23:25.340
someone that they've known for years?
I feel like there wasn't enough. There
1236
01:23:25.380 --> 01:23:28.369
wasn't quite a mean I can understand
if they had, you know, like
1237
01:23:28.729 --> 01:23:30.970
shocks. They they're in shock and
they're just trying to yeah, we can
1238
01:23:31.010 --> 01:23:34.489
only resort of humor. But again, it wasn't necessarily the the words in
1239
01:23:34.529 --> 01:23:38.810
the dialog, it was how they
were delivered kind of nonchalantly, whereas I
1240
01:23:38.850 --> 01:23:41.880
feel if they had delivered it in
more of like a reeking out sort of
1241
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:45.079
way, it would have that would
have come across less as like writing jokes
1242
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:47.319
into the script and more like this
is them trying to cope with what they
1243
01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:51.840
just did, especially because they did
such a good job portraying the shock on
1244
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:55.909
their faces. HMM, I think. I don't know when I was watching
1245
01:23:55.909 --> 01:23:58.670
it, like it kind of got
to a level in which the kids were
1246
01:23:58.789 --> 01:24:00.430
like all right, fuck it,
this is what we're doing. Like when
1247
01:24:00.470 --> 01:24:05.710
they go into the House, when
the dad's like fighting the other dad stopped
1248
01:24:05.750 --> 01:24:09.029
with hanger and all that stuff,
and the kids go into the house,
1249
01:24:09.069 --> 01:24:12.699
like I remember my roommated was literally
like why are you going in the house?
1250
01:24:12.779 --> 01:24:15.619
Yeah, but I think like Oh, we grab took the grabbed her
1251
01:24:15.659 --> 01:24:18.340
mom right right. But then like
they grabbed the golf club and I feel
1252
01:24:18.340 --> 01:24:21.260
like at a point they're like all
right, like like it's either kill or
1253
01:24:21.300 --> 01:24:25.010
be killed, right, right,
right and then, and that's fine and
1254
01:24:25.130 --> 01:24:27.569
would but you see it like okay, so one the first the first girl
1255
01:24:27.609 --> 01:24:29.970
they like hit over the railing and
she just dies. The second girl,
1256
01:24:29.970 --> 01:24:31.569
who like knocked her out and then
it starts wailing on her with his face
1257
01:24:31.689 --> 01:24:34.649
of like I can't like I just
have to keep going until she's dead.
1258
01:24:34.970 --> 01:24:38.720
But then the like the delttle later
is a little out of sync with that.
1259
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.239
HMM. Okay, that's that's that's
my point and again, I think
1260
01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:45.439
for it part of it was also
they sit down and are watching the news,
1261
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.720
like there's almost a like d impress
that part where you're sitting on the
1262
01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:53.550
table. I think was a good
like they're decompressing and trying to deal with
1263
01:24:53.590 --> 01:24:55.430
it. But, yeah, let's
figure out what's going on. Yeah,
1264
01:24:55.670 --> 01:24:58.949
and that's when they like turn earn
on the news and they see everything that's
1265
01:24:58.989 --> 01:25:02.789
going on and so and then they
like are running out to the car and
1266
01:25:02.909 --> 01:25:08.020
then, yeah, I don't know, but I I personally, being someone
1267
01:25:08.060 --> 01:25:12.899
who has been scared multiple times just
within this podcast, hearing different things,
1268
01:25:12.939 --> 01:25:17.539
appreciated the joking and things that headed
what it was. Just like I see
1269
01:25:17.659 --> 01:25:21.090
moving the mouse over there and I'm
afraid to gonna scare me again. So
1270
01:25:21.250 --> 01:25:25.449
I had so during that scene again, I'm going through my notes, that
1271
01:25:25.529 --> 01:25:27.329
this was just like what I was
right now. Yeah, I'm watching it.
1272
01:25:27.609 --> 01:25:30.689
When she killed the Doppel mom from
the other family was and mosses.
1273
01:25:30.890 --> 01:25:33.409
Yeah, it was with Matha stopped
Ganger. Well, but the boy did
1274
01:25:33.489 --> 01:25:38.239
that? No, no, she
did, like she like Kitty. That's
1275
01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:40.920
when you see the mom, you
see the Pete in the Ongo, you
1276
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:44.319
see her kind of start to go
a little insane, which again doesn't make
1277
01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:47.920
sense to the very, very end
of them. But I just have oceans
1278
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:54.949
mom just iced hole. Wow,
the fight that she had with her doppel
1279
01:25:54.989 --> 01:26:00.069
Ganger was so good, so brilliantly
shot. There's so many things I love,
1280
01:26:00.350 --> 01:26:04.859
Love, love about this movie,
but that final showdown was just incredible.
1281
01:26:04.859 --> 01:26:10.140
Yeah, some the mirrored actions and
and you know the line. It
1282
01:26:10.300 --> 01:26:13.220
just to think I would never have
danced if it not for you, right,
1283
01:26:13.420 --> 01:26:16.939
right, and so and like the
whole fight scene was mirrored as a
1284
01:26:17.060 --> 01:26:20.329
dance. It's so good. Oh
my gosh, I have a list.
1285
01:26:20.409 --> 01:26:25.170
It's not until it's not until forty
minutes in the doppel family even shows up.
1286
01:26:25.170 --> 01:26:28.609
Right and if to our movie,
though. Yeah, obviously major spoiler
1287
01:26:29.250 --> 01:26:32.720
the ending. Right Ris revealed that
the very beginning of the movie when they'll
1288
01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:36.880
beat in, Younga as a kid, meets her doppelganger, meets her tethered,
1289
01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:42.000
the tether chokes her and switches places
with it. So it's Adelie.
1290
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:45.520
And then read, read, yes, red is red the tethered. So
1291
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:49.189
we find out that red has actually
been who we thought at Lee. Yes,
1292
01:26:49.310 --> 01:26:55.590
right, yes, I have many
notes about this that are a bit
1293
01:26:55.630 --> 01:26:59.510
different from what y'all have talked about. Wanna jump in there about I don't
1294
01:26:59.510 --> 01:27:01.779
want to interrupt if you I said
nothing about the last thing I have.
1295
01:27:01.899 --> 01:27:04.979
So I was just like, what
a plot twist. But then that last
1296
01:27:05.100 --> 01:27:09.500
shot of them driving away and the
son is staring him of like a Bam.
1297
01:27:09.699 --> 01:27:13.979
He knows. Yeah, she took
like Adelaide to hold him. I'm
1298
01:27:14.060 --> 01:27:15.649
convinced that Adelaide told him. I
think she. I don't know if she
1299
01:27:15.770 --> 01:27:23.010
recognizes it, but he knows well
and I think he's I think she knows
1300
01:27:23.050 --> 01:27:27.649
that he knows and I think that
he realizes, wow, this lady,
1301
01:27:27.930 --> 01:27:30.479
who are this? This girl who
lived underground became my mom, right,
1302
01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:34.720
and and so, and also that
she's one of the crazy killer people.
1303
01:27:34.760 --> 01:27:40.600
Yeah, but obviously she's trying to. She's obviously, but it also explains
1304
01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:44.909
why none of the tether can talk. And so so they tie it back
1305
01:27:44.909 --> 01:27:47.109
into when she when she when red
switches places. Right, they have the
1306
01:27:47.149 --> 01:27:50.750
flashback of Oh, she's got PTSD, that's why she's not talking, and
1307
01:27:50.869 --> 01:27:56.069
so they give her dance lessons so
she's learn right. And why it read
1308
01:27:56.229 --> 01:27:59.460
is the Art Adelaide is the only
tether that can talk and she has the
1309
01:27:59.500 --> 01:28:01.699
really horse voice because she was choked
and sort of voices. I never thought
1310
01:28:01.739 --> 01:28:03.979
of that until you just said it. Yeah, so I think that's really
1311
01:28:04.060 --> 01:28:20.770
cool. And Yeah, so what
made you play the tension? For you
1312
01:28:21.409 --> 01:28:33.960
was a girl. Yeah, so
your voice is so good. And the
1313
01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:38.560
thing is she would do that on
set, like she wouldn't break character when
1314
01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:42.909
she was talking to there. There's
clips of her like between scenes and she's
1315
01:28:42.949 --> 01:28:45.670
talking about the scene they're about to
shoot and chill see and she's like this
1316
01:28:45.949 --> 01:28:50.149
is the scene as this, as
this happened. Yet okay, like Gill
1317
01:28:50.590 --> 01:28:55.069
like giving and taking stage directions in
that voice. Well, because it's and
1318
01:28:55.430 --> 01:28:59.260
they didn't even noted her for an
Oscar No, insane. Well, because,
1319
01:28:59.340 --> 01:29:03.220
like, and it's also just like
the breathiness, but then the abrupt
1320
01:29:04.140 --> 01:29:06.859
and like, because it's not just
like this Gurgle, like it could just
1321
01:29:06.939 --> 01:29:13.970
be this, like like, like, like I would take leapede and Younggos
1322
01:29:14.010 --> 01:29:15.289
Batman, I would take that.
Oh, yeah, I watch that like
1323
01:29:15.449 --> 01:29:18.210
it would. It's not even like
that kind of a voice or something.
1324
01:29:18.329 --> 01:29:21.329
It's like I don't know, because
I feel like it juxtaposed with like this
1325
01:29:21.569 --> 01:29:27.399
strength versus this weakness, like she
almost has like a weakened voice. Yeah,
1326
01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:32.319
but it almost makes her appear stronger. So interesting. So I have
1327
01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:35.000
a really exciting list. Sorry,
guys, I'm like chomping up the thing.
1328
01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:38.439
All right, hit there, okay, okay. So, so one
1329
01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:42.670
of the things I really, really
love about Jordan Peel's work is that his
1330
01:29:43.430 --> 01:29:47.550
movies also provide social commentary and he
tells you, at least in us.
1331
01:29:47.590 --> 01:29:49.750
I've only seen get out once.
I need to watch get out again,
1332
01:29:50.109 --> 01:29:57.420
but in us he tells you exactly
what he's doing. Right in the very
1333
01:29:57.500 --> 01:30:00.539
first shot of the TV as it's
zooming in on that newscast, look at
1334
01:30:00.539 --> 01:30:04.140
the vhs tapes that are on all
that are sitting next to the TV.
1335
01:30:04.220 --> 01:30:09.850
You have Chud. You had but
it Schud, Chud, Chud. It's
1336
01:30:09.890 --> 01:30:14.090
a it's s horror film. It's
got Daniel Sterne it, but it's about
1337
01:30:14.329 --> 01:30:20.250
these people who live under, underground
in New York City and they're but they're
1338
01:30:20.289 --> 01:30:25.199
like mutant people in Volleyball, oh, people class. Yeah, I started
1339
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:28.279
watching it not that long ago and
I dosed off because I was very sleepy
1340
01:30:28.399 --> 01:30:31.399
that day. But anyway, so
there's Chud. There's invasion of the body
1341
01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:36.350
snatchers and then there's them. Oh
yeah, yeah, so he tells you
1342
01:30:36.630 --> 01:30:41.630
what he's doing right right there,
just with those vahs tapes. But then
1343
01:30:42.590 --> 01:30:45.949
the commercial is about hands across America, right, which was a social program
1344
01:30:46.390 --> 01:30:49.460
that meant, that was meant to
benefit, you know, people in poverty
1345
01:30:49.500 --> 01:30:55.539
and things like that, and that
also failed. You have them Adelaide's family
1346
01:30:55.579 --> 01:31:00.659
at the at the fair, and
she wants this thriller t shirt. If
1347
01:31:00.699 --> 01:31:04.250
you watch the thriller video, it's
Michael Jackson facing off like with his you
1348
01:31:04.329 --> 01:31:09.210
know, with his other self,
like the Werewolf sell. So Jordan Peel
1349
01:31:09.369 --> 01:31:12.569
tell you everything he's going to do
in this movie in the first five minutes?
1350
01:31:13.289 --> 01:31:15.770
Sure, I'll I don't know that
that. Know that you could piece
1351
01:31:15.850 --> 01:31:17.210
that together until you've actually seen the
movie. Right, right, right.
1352
01:31:17.369 --> 01:31:21.000
I mean the as soon as I
saw those vhs tapes, because I recognize
1353
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:24.720
that that was something that he did
in get out like the different things that
1354
01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:29.399
he came from, I was like, and also after just knowing how much
1355
01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:31.989
of a student of like science fiction
and horror genre he is, like I
1356
01:31:32.149 --> 01:31:34.350
was like, okay, these,
this is important. Pay attention here,
1357
01:31:34.390 --> 01:31:40.750
all right, so it's also reminds
me a lot of this Denzel lockhinghan movie
1358
01:31:40.789 --> 01:31:44.069
called fallen. You've told me about
that. I have seen it because it
1359
01:31:44.189 --> 01:31:48.260
has a very the plot twist is
set up very similarly, where there's something
1360
01:31:48.340 --> 01:31:51.100
set up in the beginning that gets
paid off at the end and then you
1361
01:31:51.180 --> 01:31:54.779
say, oh, that's what they
were setting up at the beginning. Now
1362
01:31:54.859 --> 01:31:57.699
the beginning makes sense. But yeah, I think it's a great movie.
1363
01:31:57.739 --> 01:32:00.939
It plods in the middle, but
I think it's worth watching for the for
1364
01:32:00.020 --> 01:32:03.569
the ending is but also the other
thing that he sits up with. That
1365
01:32:03.810 --> 01:32:08.529
the that very first scene at the
fair when she goes into the The the
1366
01:32:08.609 --> 01:32:13.250
vision quest yeah, a one.
You have use of reflection in mirrors,
1367
01:32:13.369 --> 01:32:16.520
which gets brought in into loads of
different scenes, whether there's a mirror in
1368
01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:20.800
the scene or not, like Adelaide
seeing her, she's looking at her reflection
1369
01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:26.720
in the window right before the the
the tether family shows up there there,
1370
01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:29.760
you know. So you know that
use of reflection in mirrors and you of
1371
01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:32.750
course that's a story about Babblegangers,
so you have that also. Jordan Peele
1372
01:32:32.789 --> 01:32:36.189
also told you something that was going
to happen if you opened your Bible is
1373
01:32:36.310 --> 01:32:40.470
just the dude. That's what jeremilevel
and I looked it up and here it
1374
01:32:40.630 --> 01:32:42.909
is, so you don't have to
look it up. Dar My Eleven,
1375
01:32:42.949 --> 01:32:45.899
Eleven, therefore, thus is the
Lord behold. I am bringing disaster upon
1376
01:32:45.939 --> 01:32:47.939
them that they cannot escape. They
cry to me, I will not listen
1377
01:32:47.939 --> 01:32:50.979
to them, and she talks about
God. Should like brought me to this
1378
01:32:51.140 --> 01:32:56.300
point. Yep, one, then
eleven. Is like all throughout the move.
1379
01:32:56.699 --> 01:32:58.689
And that mirror. You know,
that's a mirror too. Yeah,
1380
01:32:59.210 --> 01:33:03.170
it's a mirror. And then there's
also it's on the clock and then it's
1381
01:33:03.729 --> 01:33:05.970
for good the other time. But
like it's, yeah, all through.
1382
01:33:06.130 --> 01:33:11.130
Yeah, and the thing is like, even though they survived, they show
1383
01:33:11.289 --> 01:33:15.920
like the tethered killed everyone. Well, and and I I was a little
1384
01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:18.039
lost as to what the tethered were
accomplishing, making this huge Human Jane.
1385
01:33:18.680 --> 01:33:21.600
Well, that was hands across America, right. They were all in red,
1386
01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:25.960
just like the hands across America Tahirt, right, which is what Adelaide
1387
01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:30.229
was wearing right when she and read
swap places. Right. So one of
1388
01:33:30.270 --> 01:33:35.470
the other things that I wanted to
note about the tether. So the first
1389
01:33:35.470 --> 01:33:40.909
time I watched the movie, I
spent a lot of time trying to figure
1390
01:33:40.909 --> 01:33:44.460
out the science of the tether.
Uh Huh. And then the second time
1391
01:33:44.460 --> 01:33:45.979
I watched a movie, I'm like
what that? You know, I kept
1392
01:33:46.020 --> 01:33:49.500
I could not quite piece it together. The third time I watched the movie,
1393
01:33:49.859 --> 01:33:53.979
it's like it is not about the
tether, it is about who is
1394
01:33:54.020 --> 01:33:56.729
in the position of power, right, and that is the whole point of
1395
01:33:56.770 --> 01:33:59.850
the movie, right, like and
I was like, holy crap, that
1396
01:34:00.010 --> 01:34:04.890
is like the amazing like social commentary, like it does not matter that Adelaide
1397
01:34:04.930 --> 01:34:09.010
and read swap places. It was
about who was in the position of power,
1398
01:34:09.210 --> 01:34:11.439
and that's the person who was on
top, right, and that's that's
1399
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:13.359
the whole. That's whole that I
mean. I mean they don't tell you
1400
01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:15.199
that till like the very, very, very, very very end. And
1401
01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:18.439
again, I'm a little slow,
but I was geeking about all of the
1402
01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:23.560
other stuff. But they don't really
show you that. They imply that the
1403
01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:28.510
tethered are sometimes forced to mirror what
they're above. Oh yeah, partners are
1404
01:34:28.590 --> 01:34:31.949
doing, which is how the the
kid is it takes care of Piro.
1405
01:34:32.430 --> 01:34:36.829
See. Is it that, or
is it that the people down below could
1406
01:34:36.909 --> 01:34:42.659
make the people above hear because they
were good. The idea was droll.
1407
01:34:42.739 --> 01:34:45.659
Yeah, the idea was to do
that, but because it was a band
1408
01:34:45.699 --> 01:34:48.260
of forever's and I think it's okay
for him to have like mystery about how
1409
01:34:48.300 --> 01:34:53.569
did this work. Like at the
the honest trailer was like this. L's
1410
01:34:53.569 --> 01:34:55.890
all these questions that like runs through, all these questions that, like,
1411
01:34:56.010 --> 01:34:59.090
how would you answer these questions at
right? What if the what if the
1412
01:34:59.250 --> 01:35:02.689
sun is also switched? I don't
have that. I say, I don't
1413
01:35:02.689 --> 01:35:05.890
think he is either, but that
was definitely a thought I had, because
1414
01:35:05.930 --> 01:35:12.199
the sun is visibly scarred under the
mask. Yeah, right, but I'm
1415
01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:15.399
curious as if like something happened,
and also because he's scarred. That's why
1416
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:19.279
he can't talk anymore. And also
there was a certain level in which,
1417
01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:24.069
like, he couldn't remember how the
toy were that he hadn't used for years.
1418
01:35:24.109 --> 01:35:29.069
Also, he could not snap and
beat just like red his mother.
1419
01:35:29.350 --> 01:35:32.909
Yeah, couldn't, just kind of
showing that he doesn't belong there. Also,
1420
01:35:32.909 --> 01:35:36.460
I remember learning that it they were
created to be able to control the
1421
01:35:36.539 --> 01:35:42.979
people up top, and so if
you notice, like the sun immediately notices
1422
01:35:43.060 --> 01:35:45.539
that it's a trap, he's also
the first person to realize who they are,
1423
01:35:46.260 --> 01:35:50.210
like when they're there, he's like
there's us. Yeah, and also
1424
01:35:50.289 --> 01:35:53.489
then at the end he's the one
that knows that, like, if he
1425
01:35:54.489 --> 01:35:58.729
backs up and things like that,
like right, the other will follow,
1426
01:35:59.369 --> 01:36:01.090
and that's how he kills them.
So I don't know, those are just
1427
01:36:01.250 --> 01:36:05.760
some thoughts. I don't know exactly
where I stand, but I potentially think
1428
01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:11.399
that the sun was swapped because then
also, why doesn't Adelaide kill him when
1429
01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:15.680
he takes him, because that's originally
who she right gave first he yeah,
1430
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:17.319
he does, and then he does
latch onto the sun. It's a good
1431
01:36:17.319 --> 01:36:19.270
when would they when would they switch, though? When? I don't know.
1432
01:36:19.430 --> 01:36:23.029
Dan, people on the podcast answer
these questions. Now we'll tweet it.
1433
01:36:23.069 --> 01:36:25.310
Will tweet him. Hey, Jordan, Jordan being into this, least
1434
01:36:25.310 --> 01:36:27.949
join us. All right, so
here's so here's the honest. Trailers break
1435
01:36:27.949 --> 01:36:31.710
down all the questions about the about
the tethered baston's. Why is there a
1436
01:36:31.829 --> 01:36:35.180
tethered for everyone in America? How
is there enough space underground for them?
1437
01:36:35.340 --> 01:36:39.220
And the people must have known about
these experiments. How did no one find
1438
01:36:39.220 --> 01:36:42.060
out of the last thirty years purely
they were using an electricity, water and
1439
01:36:42.100 --> 01:36:44.939
raw materials to raise some red flags. Can the tailor control the rections independently
1440
01:36:44.939 --> 01:36:46.100
or not? If not, how
are they executing his complicated plan? If
1441
01:36:46.140 --> 01:36:48.010
so, why they bothers staying on
the ground? Did the people who make
1442
01:36:48.050 --> 01:36:49.289
the t other for get to lock
the door in the way out? And
1443
01:36:49.329 --> 01:36:51.130
they have the same body type is
are double. Their diet is one hunders
1444
01:36:51.130 --> 01:36:54.050
rebbit EA, the to the bit
the rabbits. But the rabbits eat really
1445
01:36:54.050 --> 01:36:56.489
get thousands, about millions of red
season scissors. Really, we queat everything
1446
01:36:56.489 --> 01:36:58.890
this well, repsually like classers.
Always what a people lived. They part
1447
01:36:58.890 --> 01:37:00.609
of the least. I think.
The vertical differences are there iss piles of
1448
01:37:00.609 --> 01:37:01.520
Google tunnel. When us to your
tethering tryouts on the country, think is
1449
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:04.000
waiting the border to keep leaning,
while the character what's your tether, insipily
1450
01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:06.560
the courts. We die smiling's voice
when eptelling Pales. Just need to pick
1451
01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:12.520
the pretty premix about five on it
just where you wat it so well.
1452
01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:15.229
I mean I feel like also,
this movie was definitely a commentary on like
1453
01:37:15.750 --> 01:37:18.550
America. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, because it was supposed to be like
1454
01:37:18.590 --> 01:37:23.789
a government thing and I feel like
that's also why red is like we need
1455
01:37:23.869 --> 01:37:27.550
to drive to Mexico, like we
need to leave the country, right,
1456
01:37:27.869 --> 01:37:30.859
and I think there's also just even
that aspect of like who are you,
1457
01:37:30.220 --> 01:37:34.380
and like it's like we're American.
Yeah, yeah, it's like yeah,
1458
01:37:34.380 --> 01:37:39.899
yeah, and it yeah. So
I think if you compare it estions,
1459
01:37:39.939 --> 01:37:42.859
you can have yeah, I think
if you compare it to get out Jordan,
1460
01:37:43.220 --> 01:37:46.170
you'll expanded his vision. HMM,
and because of that you end up
1461
01:37:46.170 --> 01:37:49.130
with some some plot holes, but
you know, those aren't those don't matter
1462
01:37:49.289 --> 01:37:51.810
in the long run. Yeah,
so I get out as much tighter focused
1463
01:37:51.850 --> 01:37:57.289
film about like one family, one
area and the crazy stuff that was happening
1464
01:37:57.289 --> 01:38:00.359
there. And this is about like
this is happening across the nation, right.
1465
01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:02.479
So the he expand the scope much
bigger. I think it works really
1466
01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:05.239
well. You did a really good
job of showing us like this is what's
1467
01:38:05.279 --> 01:38:10.279
happening everywhere within the realm of this
one family and the special thing. And
1468
01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:15.189
so, you know, I I
think, I think again it was it's
1469
01:38:15.229 --> 01:38:20.189
not completely clear, but I think
Adelaide implies that because she wasn't she was
1470
01:38:20.630 --> 01:38:26.430
and above ground person. She was
able to help the other tethered break the
1471
01:38:26.590 --> 01:38:30.500
control, because she was like they
knew I was a special obviously special because
1472
01:38:30.539 --> 01:38:33.260
she wasn't originally a tethered when I
think it's also because, like, that's
1473
01:38:33.300 --> 01:38:39.779
why red's dancing career peaked at fourteen, because it doesn't belong there. She
1474
01:38:39.939 --> 01:38:44.090
can't even snap in Rhad them and
so, and that's why, when they
1475
01:38:44.090 --> 01:38:47.569
saw her dance, they realized she
was special because she could dance in rhythm
1476
01:38:47.649 --> 01:38:51.609
and she could dance so many things. I'm yeah, it was. It
1477
01:38:51.850 --> 01:38:55.649
was really good, and that's when
I would definitely, definitely be happy to
1478
01:38:55.689 --> 01:38:58.560
go readaus. Oh, yeah,
totally worth it. Yeah, of the
1479
01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:01.720
five, candy man and well,
Tuckerndale's just a great movie, but I
1480
01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:04.520
wouldn't put it in a hori genre. Put in comedy, you have to
1481
01:39:04.600 --> 01:39:09.520
be able to stomach Gore, right. Yeah, yeah, reasonable. But
1482
01:39:09.800 --> 01:39:13.470
canny man and us were both are
really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1483
01:39:13.590 --> 01:39:15.909
everybody, everybody was great. I'm
the first time I saw us,
1484
01:39:15.989 --> 01:39:19.630
the one thing I took away from
it walking away was wow, I'm really
1485
01:39:19.670 --> 01:39:24.619
glad that he is handling the twilight
zone and I know, I know people
1486
01:39:25.460 --> 01:39:28.739
have e clained about it, have
been grumpy about it, but I don't
1487
01:39:28.779 --> 01:39:30.979
think they understand what he's and again
you've you're always going to have people like
1488
01:39:31.020 --> 01:39:33.779
Oh, with the origin was so
much better. It was like, yeah,
1489
01:39:33.819 --> 01:39:36.539
it's because you're the one, that's
the one that you are nostalgic for,
1490
01:39:36.699 --> 01:39:40.770
and that's fine, but because I, while I enjoy the twilight zone
1491
01:39:40.770 --> 01:39:43.729
a lot, I have no nostalgia
for it because it wasn't something that grew
1492
01:39:43.770 --> 01:39:46.250
up watching. And you know,
and having watched all of his twilight zone
1493
01:39:46.289 --> 01:39:50.489
episodes, I am very, very
impressed with what he's done and like the
1494
01:39:51.090 --> 01:39:55.399
camp, he still he'd still does
his social commentary. Yeah, and I
1495
01:39:55.479 --> 01:40:00.000
think that's what makes his his films
not just good science fiction, but I
1496
01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:03.479
mean good science fiction also commentates on
it's a commentary on the world. It's
1497
01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:05.760
it was such an interesting pivot for
him. But when I you know,
1498
01:40:05.840 --> 01:40:09.789
when I analyze it, actually makes
a ton of sense. Right, he
1499
01:40:09.869 --> 01:40:12.590
was a huge nerd, so he's
got this no offense. He's you know,
1500
01:40:12.750 --> 01:40:15.989
he's got this. He's got this
depth of knowledge about sci fi and
1501
01:40:16.590 --> 01:40:20.619
all these genres. Right, you
do comedy and comedy is very good at
1502
01:40:20.699 --> 01:40:27.420
touching on real issues and, you
know, using comedy and exaggeration to highlight
1503
01:40:28.100 --> 01:40:31.100
social issues. Comedy, commedity,
been doing that for years, for decades,
1504
01:40:31.220 --> 01:40:34.260
right, it's and and you know, comedy also often draws on darker
1505
01:40:34.260 --> 01:40:38.369
aspects of things. Sure, for
a laugh, right, but it's not
1506
01:40:38.409 --> 01:40:41.569
too much of a stretch to take
that and just make it to emphasize the
1507
01:40:41.689 --> 01:40:45.329
horror of it instead of instead of
ups making it absurd for a laugh.
1508
01:40:45.770 --> 01:40:47.289
So so, when I think about
it, like the pivot actually a kind
1509
01:40:47.289 --> 01:40:51.760
of makes sense. He's a brilliant, brilliant director, writer, producer.
1510
01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:58.840
I'm so excited to see all and
work is wife, Chelsea Peretti, is
1511
01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:01.520
amazing. On Brooklyn Nine. Really, she's Gina on Brooklyn night. What
1512
01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:05.670
I did not know he was married
to her. Right, kidding, right,
1513
01:41:05.789 --> 01:41:11.750
and I'm like, what shutter kind
funniest kids? Oh my gosh,
1514
01:41:11.750 --> 01:41:14.149
I hadn't no idea he was one
of the children. Already Thought, oh
1515
01:41:14.149 --> 01:41:16.390
my gosh, can wee Jordan and
Chelsea, please invite us to dinner.
1516
01:41:16.550 --> 01:41:19.739
We love both of you very much. Maybe when Coronas over her. Yeah,
1517
01:41:19.859 --> 01:41:24.659
maybe easier socially distance. Outside dinner
we talked all about all. I'll
1518
01:41:24.699 --> 01:41:27.819
make it, I will cook it. Oh, whatever you like, whatever
1519
01:41:27.859 --> 01:41:31.340
you want, y'all look for a
treat, all right. So let's let's
1520
01:41:31.539 --> 01:41:34.449
last thoughts on us. I thought
it was great and now again, I
1521
01:41:34.569 --> 01:41:39.449
think you may have sold me on
on watching horror. Yeah, US is
1522
01:41:39.890 --> 01:41:43.529
it might be my my gosh,
it's so close between like us and knives
1523
01:41:43.569 --> 01:41:45.970
out, but I feel like I
love them both equally, but they do
1524
01:41:45.090 --> 01:41:48.800
completely different things and so I find
it hard to rank them. But US
1525
01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:54.039
is definitely one of the most important
that this last year and I cannot recommended
1526
01:41:54.039 --> 01:41:57.479
it enough. I had been wanting
to watch it, and so I'm glad,
1527
01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:00.000
like literally, I remember bringing it
up with people and being like can
1528
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:02.869
we watch us, and I had
people literally be like this is us,
1529
01:42:03.029 --> 01:42:06.909
no, that's different, things like
that. No, no, that was
1530
01:42:06.989 --> 01:42:13.550
the first soundtrack I found. Yeah, that I'm so glad that I finally
1531
01:42:14.550 --> 01:42:18.180
not to watch it. I'm just
yeah, because I saw get out and
1532
01:42:18.779 --> 01:42:21.779
I thought that this, I thought
the US was scarier than get out.
1533
01:42:23.220 --> 01:42:26.060
Yeah, yeah, definitely for sure. I've none of other people who did
1534
01:42:26.100 --> 01:42:30.329
not feel the same. I mean
I never felt like either of them were
1535
01:42:30.850 --> 01:42:33.289
super, super scary, but there
is definitely a lot in it. It's
1536
01:42:33.369 --> 01:42:36.329
like, oh my gosh, that
freaks me out. Okay, well,
1537
01:42:36.369 --> 01:42:40.930
let's be fair. If we're being
real, you can play that song over
1538
01:42:41.050 --> 01:42:44.170
like my little prenies, and I
will probably be scared. Okay, I'M
1539
01:42:44.170 --> 01:42:46.039
gonna I'm gonna make that now.
I'm gonna find that. No, I'm
1540
01:42:46.039 --> 01:42:48.640
gonna, like, I'm gonna go
you further. I'M gonna be like it
1541
01:42:48.840 --> 01:42:55.359
Jelly gummy bears or like tell a
tubby's bubble guppies. I don't know what
1542
01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:58.479
that is. So little kid show. I think you're right. Bright.
1543
01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:00.909
Yeah, well, guys, and
just put the put horror music over it.
1544
01:43:02.949 --> 01:43:09.350
This is my new youtube series.
Do not steal. That's why I
1545
01:43:09.470 --> 01:43:14.579
again, like I said, like
it's the sound of things that gets me,
1546
01:43:14.699 --> 01:43:16.779
and not even necessarily the sound of
like the action, but the music
1547
01:43:16.859 --> 01:43:20.899
along with it. That's why I
really want to watch the birds, because
1548
01:43:20.899 --> 01:43:24.579
I know it did the hitchcock one. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's
1549
01:43:24.579 --> 01:43:27.100
great ful. I've heard it sex. Yeah, hitchcock is a good director.
1550
01:43:27.140 --> 01:43:29.970
Yeah, apparently he was a bit
of an ass. A bit of
1551
01:43:30.010 --> 01:43:32.810
an ASS isn't understate. Yeah,
yeah, he was kind of terrible human.
1552
01:43:32.890 --> 01:43:35.890
Yeah. Yeah, she's unfortunate,
because I love his work. Yeah,
1553
01:43:36.130 --> 01:43:40.250
drives me nuts. Yeah, I
feel like the a lot of the
1554
01:43:40.609 --> 01:43:44.640
the older really good directors were like
insane people that probably shouldn't have been allowed
1555
01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:47.640
to work. Had really created direction, but we're miserable to work with like
1556
01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:53.319
Kubrick and hitchcock. Yeah, that's
why I like when that music came on,
1557
01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:59.069
I just immediately just uneasy when it's
even similarly with have you guys seen
1558
01:43:59.109 --> 01:44:02.270
sinister? I have not seen sinister. So in sinister a big aspect is
1559
01:44:02.470 --> 01:44:06.670
he's watching films on like this very
old eight track, and so the sound
1560
01:44:06.750 --> 01:44:12.100
of like films on nature. I'm
may be saying say eight track was like
1561
01:44:12.180 --> 01:44:15.699
a big cassette take with eight tracks
on it. Okay, seem on that,
1562
01:44:15.939 --> 01:44:19.659
but whatever, not that LASERDISC BEATA
Max. Okay, our younger audience,
1563
01:44:19.779 --> 01:44:21.979
if there are any, are not
going to have no idea what you
1564
01:44:23.140 --> 01:44:26.210
yeah, well, I'm ten years
older than Hank and I five years older
1565
01:44:26.289 --> 01:44:30.810
than you. So anyway, sinister, yes, but yeah, the it's
1566
01:44:30.890 --> 01:44:35.689
just this, like it's that looking
where you like. It's it's the roles,
1567
01:44:35.770 --> 01:44:40.600
like the films that yeah, stuff, and it's just like that clicking
1568
01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:45.039
and he cood yeah, and basically
he's seeing like films of the murders of
1569
01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:48.600
these families, Oh yeah, and
stuff like that. But so, like,
1570
01:44:49.039 --> 01:44:54.390
I watched it was like one of
my neighbors and all that stuff,
1571
01:44:54.390 --> 01:44:58.789
and just like the sound of that, like the gang. It gets me
1572
01:44:58.829 --> 01:45:01.310
a little bit, but like it
freaks her out that randomly, whenever I'm
1573
01:45:01.310 --> 01:45:03.750
around her, I'll just like play
that, and so I think it's just
1574
01:45:03.829 --> 01:45:10.859
so interesting how sound effects. Oh
yeah, at that was honestly one of
1575
01:45:10.899 --> 01:45:14.539
the reasons, one of the things
that made lepicon by far the worst was
1576
01:45:14.619 --> 01:45:18.779
the audio was terrible. And yes, like the words weren't seeking up right.
1577
01:45:19.500 --> 01:45:24.090
Yeah, but, yeah, I
did like Jennifer and has some shorts,
1578
01:45:24.130 --> 01:45:27.649
though, oh my gosh. Oh, when Zoop I noticed there were
1579
01:45:27.649 --> 01:45:32.130
a lot of shoe shots in the
foot fetish. But even before that's revealed,
1580
01:45:32.210 --> 01:45:36.319
like you get a shot of Jennifer
Aniston wearing red slouch shocks and La
1581
01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:40.199
gear high tops and I was like, I would have killed for those shoes
1582
01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:45.680
when I was said that, you
know, but I, yeah, I
1583
01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:50.229
told had a pair of La gear
sneakers and I definitely wore some slough shocks
1584
01:45:50.270 --> 01:45:57.750
back in the day. Watch.
Yeah, anyway, I just I just
1585
01:45:57.869 --> 01:46:00.670
like cackled. But yeah, so
those were five horror movies that we watch
1586
01:46:00.829 --> 01:46:03.500
this horse season. Definitely I would
recommend all of them, except Lepricaon,
1587
01:46:03.659 --> 01:46:08.739
although it's it's not like an unpleasant
movie, it's just bad. So yeah,
1588
01:46:08.899 --> 01:46:12.100
yeah, you get some friends and
do like a mystery science theater style
1589
01:46:12.180 --> 01:46:14.619
thing. I think, like a
drinking game to it. I think when
1590
01:46:14.659 --> 01:46:18.050
we find every time they'll Africa on
accents every time. More we're Davis Saxon
1591
01:46:18.090 --> 01:46:25.609
slips, you'll be smashed every time. Shoes are like anytime they focus on
1592
01:46:25.649 --> 01:46:29.569
somebody shoes, think the shoe,
you'll die. Take a drink and not
1593
01:46:29.689 --> 01:46:32.640
I yeah's toxic masculine. All right. Well, yeah, so, so
1594
01:46:32.760 --> 01:46:36.600
those are some some things you can
do this Halloween season. Yeah, so
1595
01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:40.960
let's let's wrap up, wrap up
real quick. What do you think the
1596
01:46:41.079 --> 01:46:44.920
next next couple? Obviously we got
to watch the Vich the because I forgot
1597
01:46:44.960 --> 01:46:47.069
to do that, bummer. So
what else? What else do you think
1598
01:46:47.229 --> 01:46:51.630
we should write into? Well,
I mean a real we stick if we
1599
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did another horror episode. Yeah,
if we were to do another horror episode,
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maybe in like three four months.
We have noticeably not watched any west
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01:47:00.470 --> 01:47:03.180
Craven. So, okay, I
gone to watch some nightmare in ELM street,
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01:47:03.260 --> 01:47:06.619
I would say, either nightmare and
industry and or screen. Okay,
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01:47:06.659 --> 01:47:10.899
because they're in being ready to do
another screen film. Yeah, I just
1604
01:47:11.060 --> 01:47:15.060
recently watched all of those. So
their scream apparently also ruined the horror genre
1605
01:47:15.140 --> 01:47:18.170
for a while. Actually, I
would say scream brought it back out of
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01:47:18.170 --> 01:47:23.449
back. Yes, because it was. It was. It's kind of in
1607
01:47:23.569 --> 01:47:28.369
that same Venus cabin in the woods
where you got like them, the more
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01:47:28.569 --> 01:47:33.000
parody. But it's very selfaware.
I actually really, really like how they
1609
01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:36.159
break everything down for you, like
these are the rules of horror movies.
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01:47:36.520 --> 01:47:39.880
And then and then, yeah,
second one. They're like, oh well,
1611
01:47:39.960 --> 01:47:43.119
the sequel will do this. Yeah, we're very selfaware, right.
1612
01:47:43.199 --> 01:47:47.350
But they also gave so they did
reinvigorate the horror genre, but they also
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01:47:47.430 --> 01:47:53.189
gave rise to the whole scary movie
and all those, yes, I think,
1614
01:47:53.270 --> 01:47:57.029
really trash. Well, I heard
movies, so I've never seen any
1615
01:47:57.149 --> 01:48:01.500
of the scary movies, but I
find it interesting that someone thought it was
1616
01:48:01.539 --> 01:48:06.060
a good idea to have a parody
movie about a movie that parodies horror movies.
1617
01:48:06.140 --> 01:48:10.140
Right, it's like that's kind of
interesting, also weird, but,
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01:48:10.260 --> 01:48:14.329
you know, little too far removed. Yeah, I mean personally I thought
1619
01:48:14.329 --> 01:48:18.170
all the screen films were hilarious anyway. But yeah, I would say we
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01:48:18.289 --> 01:48:21.250
have noticeably avoided West Craven. So
I think that, I mean not intentionally,
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01:48:21.409 --> 01:48:24.529
not not, not, not intentionally, but I think, you know,
1622
01:48:24.850 --> 01:48:27.319
his stuff is definitely worth why?
I will say I don't think I
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01:48:27.680 --> 01:48:30.279
will I care to watch any of
the SAWS or hostil any of that.
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01:48:30.319 --> 01:48:33.640
I know I'm so no. I
personally can't watch stuff like that. So
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01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:38.760
I like don't want to watch it. But then I have in college eied
1626
01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:44.069
a roommate that Halloween was her favorite
holiday and so she definitely just had horror
1627
01:48:44.109 --> 01:48:47.510
movies playing constantly during the month of
October and at one point it was all
1628
01:48:47.949 --> 01:48:51.229
of the Sol movies and while I
was trying to sit on my bed doing
1629
01:48:51.350 --> 01:48:57.020
homework, let's be real, I
could not focus on it at all and
1630
01:48:57.100 --> 01:49:00.140
I ended up watching them. How
do you guys feel about like, I
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01:49:00.220 --> 01:49:04.979
don't know, sinister or the conjuring
or like activity? I was like that
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01:49:05.100 --> 01:49:11.010
I've never actually seen any of the
conjuring movies except the non and okay.
1633
01:49:11.250 --> 01:49:15.050
Yeah, and I think I've only
seen the conjury. I'm it actually made
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01:49:15.090 --> 01:49:18.689
me interested to go back and watch
those just because I know the people they're
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01:49:18.729 --> 01:49:24.880
based on are real people. That's
also they're also the people who kind of
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01:49:24.920 --> 01:49:30.399
did be Amityville horror, did the
whole thing that the Amitieville horror would have.
1637
01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:32.600
What is that that film is based
on? But I think that's interesting.
1638
01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:35.760
I think that gives an interesting aspect. I've never seen any the paranormal
1639
01:49:35.800 --> 01:49:40.109
activity. I have an ether films, but are aren't they like they're they're
1640
01:49:40.109 --> 01:49:43.270
kind of like sound footage stuff,
right. So, yeah, a lot
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01:49:43.310 --> 01:49:45.789
of them are. A paranormal was
as well. I know apparently, apparently
1642
01:49:46.550 --> 01:49:48.789
IUS I heard it. I was
look to a podcast that was talking about
1643
01:49:48.909 --> 01:49:54.260
paranormal activity. Apparently there's a movie
called paranormal entity. It is a different
1644
01:49:54.340 --> 01:49:58.220
movie and a much, much worse
movie that you should not watch, not
1645
01:49:58.739 --> 01:50:00.619
because the guy was like people was
trying to talk about with a friend was
1646
01:50:00.659 --> 01:50:04.140
like, yeah, I just thought
that this one was one scene was like
1647
01:50:04.220 --> 01:50:06.770
two of the top and nasty and
like that didn't happen in the movie.
1648
01:50:10.090 --> 01:50:15.529
Look, what did I watch?
I personally really like sinister. Okay,
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01:50:15.010 --> 01:50:18.289
I'M NOT gonna U it's a I
don't like her. To me, I
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01:50:18.369 --> 01:50:21.479
really don't know anything other than what
you just described it. I think we
1651
01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:26.399
should watch the wicker man. No, no, no, the Nicholas Cage
1652
01:50:26.439 --> 01:50:29.439
wicker man. Okay, I have
seen both the original and the new one
1653
01:50:29.479 --> 01:50:32.000
and I wanted to know to boats. I really want to watch. What
1654
01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:36.550
about like a page wicker man?
I mean in these would be longer things,
1655
01:50:36.590 --> 01:50:40.869
but would we ever want to incorporate
like haunting it hill house, or
1656
01:50:41.510 --> 01:50:45.029
like a series, like the series
or the Hunting at Hill House movie?
1657
01:50:45.350 --> 01:50:47.029
was there is a move? There's
a movie there. I think there's two.
1658
01:50:47.149 --> 01:50:51.539
So you meant the series, the
new series that I have not watched,
1659
01:50:51.699 --> 01:50:55.659
but I've heard, fear, very
good things. Yes, I watched
1660
01:50:55.739 --> 01:51:00.260
haunting of Hill House and I've currently
watching haunting a blind manner, or Hank
1661
01:51:00.300 --> 01:51:01.939
Hill. He just wanted to sell
propane and propan accessories and now it's got
1662
01:51:01.979 --> 01:51:05.850
goes. You know, I would
be like that, well, goes better
1663
01:51:05.890 --> 01:51:09.890
get on my house. Tell you
what. So I tend to lean more
1664
01:51:10.010 --> 01:51:13.329
towards like classic horror. I've got
a big gap in like the s of
1665
01:51:13.369 --> 01:51:15.529
the S R stuff. I mean
this kind of helped a little bit,
1666
01:51:16.010 --> 01:51:19.119
right. Have Y'all ever watched any
of David Kronenberg's work? I want to
1667
01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:21.840
watch the thing. Let's put the
thing on there. That's John Harper,
1668
01:51:23.039 --> 01:51:26.359
right, but it's very quotumber.
Guess which one's the thing that I've definitely
1669
01:51:26.359 --> 01:51:30.399
seen. Antarctica. SHAPESHIFTER it's basically
among us. The movie. Yeah,
1670
01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:32.390
it's really good, but it yeah, one point the things sprouts legs and
1671
01:51:32.510 --> 01:51:35.949
it looks like a spider. I'm
not a fan. Yeah, again,
1672
01:51:36.069 --> 01:51:40.149
spiders get me, dudes. So
we should not watch eight legged freaks.
1673
01:51:40.270 --> 01:51:44.869
Got It. What the ha ha. That's a movie that came out when
1674
01:51:44.909 --> 01:51:47.140
I was like in the Middle School, in high school. Maybe I've never
1675
01:51:47.260 --> 01:51:50.659
seen it, but that's all I
think about whenever you talk about how you
1676
01:51:51.060 --> 01:51:58.340
actually this is literally Sarah's reaction when
you said that maybe we should watch rolls
1677
01:51:58.380 --> 01:52:01.609
too. So those troll movies are
supposed to be really funny. Yeah,
1678
01:52:01.770 --> 01:52:06.409
that, this is. This is
this is so it's like that. It's
1679
01:52:06.449 --> 01:52:11.449
like trolls that like turn people into
vegetables and eat them, like they turned.
1680
01:52:12.130 --> 01:52:16.600
And so this guy was watching like
gooey green plant stuff, not like
1681
01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:21.439
like how you turned into into Brussel
sprout suck a. They watch me.
1682
01:52:21.720 --> 01:52:29.279
Spills started. Oh that got dark. But but literally it's got some of
1683
01:52:29.319 --> 01:52:32.350
the worst acting ever. So they're
like they turn this girl into a into
1684
01:52:32.590 --> 01:52:36.590
plant motion, they're eating her.
This guy's watching it says they ate her
1685
01:52:38.229 --> 01:52:44.819
and then they're going to eat me. I just like shaking his head as
1686
01:52:44.819 --> 01:52:48.220
it zooms into his face slowly.
It's is it because they're like vegetarian that
1687
01:52:48.260 --> 01:52:51.779
they feel better about themselves? I
can hear you into their vegetarian trolls.
1688
01:52:51.819 --> 01:52:55.020
So they turn you into a plant
before they e I think I could be
1689
01:52:55.100 --> 01:52:59.050
wrong on that point. But so
do you really vegetarian? So so good
1690
01:52:59.090 --> 01:53:03.210
question. Apparently so Christian singer Songwriter
Andrew Peterson, a few years ago,
1691
01:53:03.529 --> 01:53:06.090
when he was doing his behold the
lamb of God tour, which is this
1692
01:53:06.130 --> 01:53:10.609
Christmas tour they does every year with
a bunch of different artists, apparently became
1693
01:53:10.649 --> 01:53:14.199
a thing on the tour bus to
watch and Rewatch troll too, and they
1694
01:53:14.239 --> 01:53:17.079
kept tweeting about how they were watching
troll to again on the tour bus and
1695
01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:21.960
the at the guy who is the
troll and troll to tweeted them and showed
1696
01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.680
up to their shot and so they
got to meet him. This was like
1697
01:53:26.800 --> 01:53:30.949
maybe twenty eleven, two thousand and
twelve, I. But yeah, it
1698
01:53:31.109 --> 01:53:35.029
was really fun. That's pretty it's
pretty cool. Yeah, I but I
1699
01:53:35.149 --> 01:53:40.229
was bringing up David Cronenberg because David
Cronenberg is the king of body horror,
1700
01:53:40.430 --> 01:53:44.619
right, but he is not.
Did he do Um of the society?
1701
01:53:44.699 --> 01:53:47.180
Did He do society? Um,
I'm not sure. That had some weird
1702
01:53:47.300 --> 01:53:50.260
that has like a weird scene where
like a bunch of bodies just like fuse
1703
01:53:50.340 --> 01:53:56.210
together. It might have been like
a screaming Matt George thing. The Society's
1704
01:53:56.289 --> 01:53:58.689
name of the film that you're talking
about? It's called, I think it's
1705
01:53:58.689 --> 01:54:00.689
just called society. Oh, just
society. Hope, please. I will
1706
01:54:00.729 --> 01:54:05.529
look. But the really the reason
I bring up David Kronenberg is because,
1707
01:54:05.970 --> 01:54:10.520
yes, he is the king of
body horror, but his the way he
1708
01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:16.119
uses for and disturbing body horror images, it actually serves a narrative functions.
1709
01:54:16.199 --> 01:54:19.920
I actually think his work is very
interesting because of that. Know that director
1710
01:54:20.079 --> 01:54:23.600
was Brian. Yes, no,
he's not yet. He's. No,
1711
01:54:23.720 --> 01:54:28.069
sorry, you did re animator maybe. Oh, I watched re animator somewhat
1712
01:54:28.109 --> 01:54:30.909
recently, and I mean I get
why people like it, but it was
1713
01:54:30.029 --> 01:54:33.109
definitely not my pretty it was not
for me. So what did Cronenberg do?
1714
01:54:33.430 --> 01:54:41.380
So Cronenberg, he is probably best
known for scanners and Oh yeah,
1715
01:54:41.699 --> 01:54:44.340
where the duke head explodes. Yes, and they literally like got a watermelon
1716
01:54:44.500 --> 01:54:46.140
shot at with shotgun. Yeah,
I mean I've seen that scene. It's
1717
01:54:46.140 --> 01:54:49.619
kind of iconic. They took a
watermelon and like covered it with up like
1718
01:54:49.739 --> 01:54:54.890
a mission impossible to skin mask thing
but looks like an old dudes head,
1719
01:54:55.170 --> 01:54:58.010
and they literally took a shotgun and
shot it in the back, like where
1720
01:54:58.050 --> 01:55:00.529
the back of the head would be, and so the watermelon just explode.
1721
01:55:00.569 --> 01:55:02.489
So those dudes head, it looks
like a dude's head just completely exploded.
1722
01:55:02.529 --> 01:55:05.609
Yeah, it's kind that it's kind
of the scene he's most infamous for,
1723
01:55:06.130 --> 01:55:11.520
but scanners actually is probably the least
body horror of all that his films.
1724
01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:15.119
Ironically enough, videodrome is there the
one he's probably best known for. It's
1725
01:55:15.159 --> 01:55:18.319
a really interesting like cyberpunk type film. I think his work is really fascinating
1726
01:55:18.359 --> 01:55:21.069
and the main reason that he kind
of came on my radar is because scanners
1727
01:55:21.109 --> 01:55:25.229
is one of the films that strangers
things draws from. Yeah, so the
1728
01:55:25.350 --> 01:55:30.069
the whole nosebleed thing when eleven uses
her powers in scanners. The people who
1729
01:55:30.109 --> 01:55:32.350
get who get scanned. So they, the scanners, are people who have
1730
01:55:32.510 --> 01:55:36.340
power similar to eleven. It's not
necessarily they can move stuff with their mind,
1731
01:55:36.380 --> 01:55:39.979
but you can like they can like
kind of blow people's heads up.
1732
01:55:39.979 --> 01:55:44.579
Yeah, that's absolutely if somebody starts
scanning you, your no starts bleeding and
1733
01:55:44.859 --> 01:55:47.859
and there's there is a scene towards
the end of scanners that is mirrored in
1734
01:55:48.460 --> 01:55:51.369
the first season of stranger things where
they're having the face off in the middle
1735
01:55:51.369 --> 01:55:58.170
school between Dr Brenner and his man
and the dimmig organ right where they're kind
1736
01:55:58.170 --> 01:56:00.810
of stuck in the middle of all
of that. That that scene is as
1737
01:56:01.329 --> 01:56:04.239
straight out of scanners. Nice,
all right. So, so we got
1738
01:56:04.279 --> 01:56:09.600
some more stuff on. So so
I would recommend Crona bird with a grain
1739
01:56:09.640 --> 01:56:12.000
of salt, but if we were
going to watch a Kronerberg film, I
1740
01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:14.720
would probably say scanners. Yeah,
but I think, I think of the
1741
01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:16.399
ones we watched, I don't know
if I could choose between us and candy
1742
01:56:16.399 --> 01:56:18.829
make, because they did they were
very different movies. Yeah, I like
1743
01:56:18.949 --> 01:56:21.750
them both, ball great, great
films. A lot for the score.
1744
01:56:23.390 --> 01:56:25.670
I mean I did like, I
really do like the US original, but
1745
01:56:25.750 --> 01:56:28.390
man, that Philip Glass for it's
just it's awesome. I could go I
1746
01:56:28.430 --> 01:56:31.229
could just listen to that. It's
yeah, that's some that's some good music.
1747
01:56:31.470 --> 01:56:35.539
Spoiler. Aler candy man and US
show up on my Halloween Party playlist.
1748
01:56:38.460 --> 01:56:41.340
He's lying. It's literally just bookie
scary skeletons over and over again on
1749
01:56:41.460 --> 01:56:44.779
loop. That's the thing. Away. How old already does that like song
1750
01:56:44.939 --> 01:56:48.250
come up? Uh No, this
is like seven and a half hours long.
1751
01:56:48.449 --> 01:56:51.609
We're probably having a really low chance
of getting to that, and that's
1752
01:56:51.649 --> 01:56:56.250
the only song from us I put
on there. Okay, yeah, mwam
1753
01:56:56.729 --> 01:57:00.600
right. Do we know me and
we know my luck. Let's be real.
1754
01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:05.960
It Hang, it's gonna have this
on like porny drink and I just
1755
01:57:06.039 --> 01:57:10.720
like drop it. Okay, and
then it gets to the percussion part and
1756
01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:17.869
I'm like all right, all right, and we got over two hours.
1757
01:57:18.270 --> 01:57:23.229
Let's go ahead and wrap this bad
boy up. Sarah Ashley, thank you
1758
01:57:23.350 --> 01:57:27.430
for joining me. Yeah, and
watching these movies. Sarah, would you
1759
01:57:27.470 --> 01:57:30.300
like to give people information so they
can contact you, or do you care?
1760
01:57:30.739 --> 01:57:31.899
No one actually listens to the show, so no one's actually going to
1761
01:57:31.939 --> 01:57:36.500
contact or what kind of information do
you give twitter? Do you tweet or
1762
01:57:36.579 --> 01:57:42.699
instect? I have a twitter,
but I don't know the last time I
1763
01:57:42.939 --> 01:57:49.329
used it. Perfect. If you
want to sponsor Sarah and support her.
1764
01:57:49.729 --> 01:57:53.850
Yeah, as I work for a
church, please disregard the fact that I
1765
01:57:53.930 --> 01:57:57.409
said fought many times. If edited, they won't know what you said.
1766
01:57:57.609 --> 01:58:01.439
Perspective, we get to say the
occasional swear word. I'm definitely not just
1767
01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:04.520
gonna just gonna go in and Amplihi. So please destroy every time I said
1768
01:58:09.479 --> 01:58:12.800
I mean, if you want to
follow me on Instagram, I am Sara
1769
01:58:12.909 --> 01:58:18.149
Bear Dot Henry. So Sa r
Beaar Henry you like. My twitter is
1770
01:58:18.229 --> 01:58:30.100
honestly, probably similar to potentially I
am also hank. I was referred to
1771
01:58:30.140 --> 01:58:35.500
as Hank many times. Yeah,
just to be cleared during this, you
1772
01:58:35.579 --> 01:58:38.899
know what my last name is,
Thomas. Nobody calls me Tom So.
1773
01:58:41.100 --> 01:58:44.850
I'm sorry for you know, it's
fine. That's fine. I just think
1774
01:58:44.930 --> 01:58:47.529
find it a music. Anyway,
if you want to get in touch with
1775
01:58:47.609 --> 01:58:50.970
me, you can tweet me at
the nerdy blogger. You can like my
1776
01:58:51.010 --> 01:58:57.359
facebook page at facebookcom the nerdy blogger. You can read my blog nerdy blogging
1777
01:58:57.640 --> 01:59:01.479
dot wordpresscom. You can also follow
my work on Fang Girl ishcom, where
1778
01:59:01.600 --> 01:59:05.960
I have a weekly column called way
back Wednesday, where review one retro film
1779
01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:10.470
a week. I'm also covering star
Direk, discovery and the Mandalorian this year,
1780
01:59:10.630 --> 01:59:15.869
so tune in for mine. That's
next Friday. My Gosh, week
1781
01:59:15.909 --> 01:59:18.869
from today. We going to be
freaking out. All right. You can
1782
01:59:19.069 --> 01:59:25.060
also read my work and hear me
on Pop Culture Retro Ramacom. I'm also
1783
01:59:25.140 --> 01:59:30.500
regular contributed to Pop Culture Ritro Rama
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1784
01:59:30.859 --> 01:59:35.420
but I also have a cooking show
on Youtube, the K V kitchen chemists.
1785
01:59:35.699 --> 01:59:40.890
Check us out on Facebook, facebookcom
group the kitchen chemist. We have
1786
01:59:40.970 --> 01:59:45.850
twitter, we have instad we have
emails. Are All kitchen chemists, like
1787
01:59:45.489 --> 01:59:50.409
all it's like kitchen insteads kitchen chemist. Y Tea twitter is kitchen chem yta
1788
01:59:51.449 --> 01:59:56.720
email is the real kitchen chemist at
Gmail. But yeah, we we just
1789
01:59:57.279 --> 02:00:00.840
got an episode going up tomorrow as
of our recording of the pringles, which
1790
02:00:00.840 --> 02:00:03.800
is a lot of fun. It
was edited by the intern, so there's
1791
02:00:03.800 --> 02:00:10.069
some little it's a little cuddy,
which I find find it amusing. Yeah,
1792
02:00:10.069 --> 02:00:14.510
it has its own charm, which
is like people what it's given how
1793
02:00:14.550 --> 02:00:17.510
much salt we were in taking.
It makes a lot of sense. I
1794
02:00:17.590 --> 02:00:20.739
found my twitter. You have your
twitter. What is twitter? Is at
1795
02:00:20.979 --> 02:00:26.180
Henry Sera bear at. Also,
for all you young folks, you can
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find me on Ticktock, at Hank
from link. I'm sorry, Pick Tock.
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What is that? I wish I
know. M Your Two oh so
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isn't Kay. That's a LA IN
K or la and see, La and
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see, because I'm from Lank Lancaster, Pennsylvania. They'll don't need to know
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this much of information about me.
Hank is half Amish's. Yeah, you're
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her half hillbuilding in thanks case,
Amish. Yes, I can see me
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do random crazy dances and some things
like that on tick tock. All right,
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we link. Well, don't worry, bouts back no time. So
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until next time, we got your
Brown bye. I'm blaming this whole thing
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on you. Happy Alloween, I
know you love light. When my eyes
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and height, my mom stole from
because rise and suddenly, to my surprise,
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he did the MOMS to my it
was a graveyards it's caught all the
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fly my local Tory in the cars, these bedroom of Autosul came from the
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humble of boat to catch up Joe
from my electro
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Your story is not scary because the
characters are making choices the audience would make.
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Plus, you need a smarter lead
here. Like this. It's a
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dark, cold night in the woods. We stablish a traditional log cabin.
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Then cut too here we are a
log cabin. I rent it. We
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could be intimate and safety, because
it's not fifty so we don't have to
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park a car and neck at inspiration
point. That makes sense. I'm turned
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on by how logical you are.
I'm comforted by your shiny hair and facial
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symmetry. We should listen to the
news on this radio. I brought it
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as a cautionary measure because this cabin
is within walking distance of the local INSANTASILAND.
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Is that why you're able to rent
this at such a reasonable rate?
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Yes, I hope you're as fertile
as I am tonight. More HMM,
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hmmmmmmm. Hey, bed, why
are you doing the whole song? You
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wouldn't in the radio one at the
exact moment of the most pertinent news broadcast.
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It's too coincidental. But I'll jump
forward in time. This is where
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the fun of the gains. Hello, welcome to doly debated, the show
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where you're entitled to opinion, even
if it's wrong. Today, my name
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is Nathaniel Billy Levinson. With me. What sound good with me? With
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me are Sarah. I'm sorry,
sorry, you to your stuff. With
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me are Sarah Candy Man. Okay, also known as hanks and Ashley.
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We've had a doozy of a day, AMIS. So, this being October,
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a week away from Halloween, we
figured we'd watch some more horror movies.
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Who so we watched five movies.
That was supposed to be six,
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but I forgot to watch the Levich
whoopsie. That's not bad, which I
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have. It's spell it with TV's, though, so I will go back.
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I will to watch that. I'm
totally down to go watch that.
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It's a great movie. Yeah,
I just I got so hold on this.
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This sound effect. Is this chickens? I actually no idea what this
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is. Well, Oh, okay, also from Candy Man. I thought.
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I tried to get the sweets for
the sweet but apparently that wasn't in
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the original. I also didn't have
quite as much time as I wanted you
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to pull these sound effects, but
I got a couple good ones. The
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life makes a fine pots of team
Daddy. People so we watched five movies
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and we're just going to talk about
them and we figured we go chronologically.
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We didn't really have much of a
rhymer reason for which ones we picked and
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picked good horror movies. I was
except one. What it says. WHO
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SUGGESTED LEPRICON? I did. I
definitely did. I did not go to
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say, you know, it's us, it's but do you have regret?
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Oh, lever cons interesting so well, I think we're no starting with candy
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man, because that was ninety two. Were just gonna go. We're just
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gonna go and I have little notes. So here's my here's my first note
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about candy man. Intro music is
a Banger. Yeah, full of glass
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or though. The score immaculate.
was really good. I was. I
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was digging it. It's so like
aunting and beautiful and late it's so beautiful
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and yet so yeah, of all
the movies, I think candy man had
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the most consistent tone, even though
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us okay, so why don't we? I pause and say we watched candy
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man, Leprecon, Puckerndale, wish
is evil, Hollowe twousand and eighteen and
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us, and I really liked US
and candy man. Lecom was a terrible
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movie. Don't watch it, or
watch it once, which I wants to
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say you did. There was there
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moments and all of them, well, it's like it's leaptco on one,
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two, three, four, in
space, then in the hood and then
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back to this and then they remouted
it others. Yeah, there's like a
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gritty reboot and then a not gritty
reboot and it said like back. I
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think it's on like the most reason
one where it's like leper con returns.
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Yeah, literally, the captured at
the top says back to Sham Rock.
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You're hear ha ha ha, wow, it really did it the but yeah,
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candy man. So Canon One thousand
nine hundred and ninety two, Tony
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Todd and other people, Vanessa Madson, whom you might know from David Lynch's
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doom. She was in some star
trek to and she was also in something
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else I watched recently that I'm blanking
on what it is. Yeah, but
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that the intro was. Yeah,
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us was like a better movie.
M there were some things in us that
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I was like this kind of is
messing with the tone that they're going for
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a little bit, which all one. When we talk about us all,
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I'll talk about that. But Candy
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tone all the way through. I
actually really, really enjoyed I hear the
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sequels are not as good. Would
you think about candy man? I really
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liked it. I also sound as
a big thing for me when I watch
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horror movies. Something that's really weird
just about me and general is the fact
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that, like, if I'm watching
a horror movie, I can see whatever
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is going on, but I don't
want to hear it. Like hearing it
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is what will freak me out.
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a theater. I honestly don't really
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because I like the safety of being
able to like hide behind the Gosh my
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blanket or like making the excuse of
my God, I have to be like
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just to remind myself that I do
not live him. Whatever storyline is occurring,
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get it why? But is it
all so bad that I was like
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waiting for a really creepy version of
like the Candy Man Song to come on?
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Oh, like, yeah, I
know the Candy Man. Yeah,
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I'm waiting for that like the entire
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that it never goes there. I've
been obviously it's not connected at all.
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Frankly, I'm very glad. Yeah, I'm because I would the tone angry.
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What were in the tone? But
so Candy Man Reef rundown. It's
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kind of like a bloody Mary Legend
based on a book like my Barker right
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where there's this there was a black
man who was in love with someone and
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end up getting lynched for it,
and the way they lynched him was they
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chopped his hand off and then dart
him is an artist, because he was
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an artist, and they covered him
in honey and sick the bees on him.
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Oh, that's why I mean to
get the north. That would have
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been the appropriate use of not the
bees. Yeah, but now they don't
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actually show this. I think.
I think in later and the actually just
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in the second movie, they actually
do a flashback. Yeah, and you
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get to see ye. So so
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as as just an urban legend that
these two women are investigating to write a
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paper on folk legends and when Vanessa, I can't remember any of the characters
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names. Vanessa Madsen. Yeah,
excuse me, your note, Virgil,
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that was her friend. Yeah,
Helen, Helen. Yeah, so when
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Helen walks into that yeah, ere, I'm so bad with character names.
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Virginia Madsen is Helen. Her friend
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and she actually did that new series
with Octavia Spencer. She's also the
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director of Harriet, okay, and
she was also in sounds of the whims,
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which we talked about in our last
horror podcast. Also next tent movie.
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But it's so I have a note
here that I have to like retract.
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Okay, because she walks into that
lecture hall like right as it's like
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lunch time, and I was like
she just walked into the lecture right as
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he ended. I was like all
indignant, but it turns out she wasn't
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actually taking the class. She's the
girlfriend or wife of the professor. Yeah,
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so I had to reject that statement. But she ends up investigating this
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thing where you say Candy Man's named
five times in the mirror. Things happened
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and it is not now. Okay, we're going to spoil every single one
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of these movies, although lepcom nothing
to spoil. But it's not until forty
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five minutes or fifty minutes in until
you actually see Tony Todd as the candy
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man, because up until that point
it's just a an urban legend. They
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find out from from one of the
maintenance, the facilities staff that who knew
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someone who heard about the candy man
and got killed. Like so there was
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someone in the walls and they go
and investigators in this in the projects.
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She ends up getting beat up in
a in like a bathroom. Yeah,
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by as they've now turned this like
legend of the candy man into like this
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group goes in and they have like
a hook, yeah, that they'll use,
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and then they just like, yeah, I think in the I yeah,
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it's just like the hook. Yeah, they's just like beat her up.
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But but she's been she had these
like weird hallucination things with like she
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opened the toy and they were a
bunch of bees and if you're if you
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have issues with a lot of insects, I don't recommend you watch this movie.
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But forty five minutes in and it
still could just be in our legend
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right, and then she had said
Andy Man in the mirror. Five,
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yeah, she said that's that's what
she and Bernadette were both were both doing
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it. And then they say it
four times, and then they and then
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they stopped and and that's when this
was check in. And then she says
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at the fifth time, yeah,
and then nothing happens. But they also
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didn't turn out the lights. Everyone
else had turned out the lights afterwards.
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True, and then true, but
but it's like after, after this whole
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thing was gets resolved with like the
police arrest the guy, and then she's
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walking in the parking lot and then
Tony Todd just shows up and as like
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be my victiming. Oh my Gosh's
Voice, oh rightly, crap, oh,
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it's like terrifying, like he has
such a fantastic voice and also like
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but his our presence join me now. What I really love about this is
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whenever he shows up, she like
goes into a trance. Right, yeah,
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she blacks out. Yeah, they
actually hypnotized her. That's what I
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was gonna brhut up. Yeah,
I didn't know that. So, so
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they won't actually and it was like
like two thirds of the way through filming
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until she was like this is like
they would film and she wouldn't remember them
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filming be like, okay, we
can do this anymore. Yeah, that's
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why it's like, yeah, when
it looks like she's zoond because she's actually
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zonged. Yeah, they found out
ways. They like went to a hypnotist
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and then found out ways that they
could hypnotize her on set to make it
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seem more realistic. Yeah, and
that's actually what it was successful. Yeah,
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and I think that's one of the
thing. This and us, I
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think, have the best tones,
because the actors went like above and beyond.
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Oh, absolutely, in portraying the
characters they were supposed to portray.
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Also, did you know with the
bees, like they used real oh yeah,
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these real I D and that didn't
tell telly time. That's thung a
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lot the mouth. He asked that
they get, I think, a thousand
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dollars for every beasting. Yeah,
that happened, and he was stung over
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like twenty three times. Yeah,
it's your money's worth. Tone. Yeah,
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that's pretty smart. Yeah, yeah, that there's so much I really
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love about this film. So I
got really lucky. The first time I
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saw this movie was last year at
the air's Lee grant down in South Charlotte.
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So I got to see it in
the theater the first time I saw
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it, and this is a really
cool one to see in the theater because
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the just the scores so immaculate.
It's one of my favorite movie scores ever.
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But also just getting to like hear
that terrifying and beautiful voice. Yeah,
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yeah, I see why you would
want to hide under a blanket for
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that one, Hank Yeah. Well, and just even the things he says.
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You can have like a freaky voice
and it not really be much of
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anything. But I don't know why, but him saying like be my victim
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ringed me out. Yeah, I
think it's also, I had mentioned this
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Ashley before, like scary movies where
the evil or the bad guy is very
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confident, HM, in getting their
victim, like Freddy Krueger, those like
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we're just like gonna Riddell, just
like like movies where they're not running to
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chase them, but won't gang.
Yeah, like Michael Myers, those Michael
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my Erie teleports, so he's cheating
a little bit. Like those freak me
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out because there's just as level of
like they don't appear frantic either, like,
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and I'll get to that even within
us when we talk about that one
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more. But like just this confidence
of like I don't need to run and
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chase you, like I know I'll
get you. And so just the fact
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that he's there and he's just like
be my victim, like it's like okay,
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no, know, I'm good.
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that, so it's like forty it's
a it's an hour and forty minutes,
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but forty five minutes in, candy
man first shows up and then things just
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go downhill so fast because he starts
gas lighting her that she w she blacks
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out and then she wakes up in
a puddle of blood and I thought she
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killed I thought she had killed the
baby at first. Oh, yes,
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and it turns out she had just
killed a dog, right, but the
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baby is gone. Yeah, but
the baby's gone. And so that she
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gets arrest by the police and you
know, all this is happening and hist
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her husband is clearly having an affair, which is like he doesn't pick up
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the phone right right, think worst, but they're yeah, there's the the
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build up of her slowly like sinking
into badness of like what is happening,
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and it's pretty I mean it's pretty
uncomfortable that if you think about, you
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know, the the gender dynamic of
this guy. I mean, okay,
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he's a super nice supernaturally framing her
for murder. That's like a little outside
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of the purview of most people,
right, but it's this it's this kind
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of thing where nobody believes her because
all the evidence is stacked against her and
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nobody else can see her. So
she ends up in the Psych Board and
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then my I think my favorite scene
was when the guys doing the Psyche Val
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and he's sitting at his desk and
she's like, I'll prove it to you,
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I'll bring him here right now,
and she looks the mirror and says
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can't even five times and then like, nothing happens for like three minutes and
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then the dude just gets shived in
the back right the hook and Tony Todd
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shows up, candy man shows up
unleas Shur strange, and then he eats
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himself backwards out the window. It's
such a cool even though you can see,
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you can clearly see the strings.
It's such a cool shot. I
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love that. I totally missed the
strings because I was seven. The shock.
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I was not paying enough for death. Yeah, all right, but
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it's such any like they actually did
that stun, like Tony Todd did that
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stunt. That's it's such a cool
he's such a bad as it's out of
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nowhere. He just they're just like
staying there and there's all this tension.
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They just like see you all like
what one. I I didn't know how
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to feel about him like letting her
out of the restraints, because part of
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me wanted people to come in see
that, like our therapist was dead,
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right, see that she was still
restrained and that it couldn't have been her,
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right, and see that like the
window was smashed. Right. Granted,
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that's just not how the movie supposed
to go, right, right,
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but I mean he's hold. His
whole thing is he's kind of forcing her
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into a corner where the only thing
he she the only option she has left
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is to be be his, his
victim. Right well, and that that
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dynamic is so interesting, because she's
such like a doppleganger for love. HMM,
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so you, but you don't really
export to too much, right,
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but she see, I mean when
they see it in the murals, right,
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like the the resemblance is pretty streaking. Yeah, that that was just
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there's so much I really, really
enjoy about the film and I you know,
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I've only seen the the second film
in the trilogy aside from the you
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know, this first one, but
it's it actually adds like an interesting dynamically.
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He get more backstory to the character. And I mean honestly, even
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with only just watching this first film, I think the candy man is probably
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the most sympathetic horror villain. MMM, it's me. It feels like if
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holes was a horror movie I have
ever seen, or red holes. Really,
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yeah, it's got that similar flashbacky
story, but there's it's not heartwarming
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and uplifting. It's just what if
he became what if gusts became a horror
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villain? I mean Delay Hill,
but I call him gusty. Yeah,
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it was like, yeah, yeah, you should read, we should both
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read and watch it. There,
that's a good book and it's good movie.
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Right, I should just said she
had never so I know it's a
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good book. It's funny reading the
book because right, and he he's actually
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like a fat kid, Hmm,
and then he ends up really skinny because
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he has to dig holes all day. HMM, and they just straight up
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cash, I loo. Yet it
suff was never fat. Come on them.
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Actual Cannibal Shyla book watched. The
extended version is weight. He isn't
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dead. Shy, a surprise.
Sidetrack, side up, sidetrack. How
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can you do this? We,
we, I would. I would never
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sidetrack out level for me, rabbit
trail and truly debated for Oh, here
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we go. I think I'bout my
kids this one. I came for you.
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There it is. I knew I
pulled some Tony Todd are again and
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I'm just there where you're freaking out
inside my head. Oh it's so good,
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but yeah, yeah, so the
ending of the movie I thought was
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I it's a little kind of all
over the place, but I really loved
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it. Right, she ends up
crawling, quote Unquote, killing candy man,
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saving the baby, but she gets
burned up and dies in the process,
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and then she becomes a candy man. I thought was really cool.
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Right, right, I. Yeah, I fully admit to cackling in the
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theater. Yeah, yeah, just
because I'm like, I'm sorry, you
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are a Dick. When you got
that. They're good, cheating son of
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a gun. You deserve that.
Yeah, so at the end, then
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he's looking, he's in the bathroom. He's like look, he kind of
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crying about her. Yeah, yeah, he's port up a little better.
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Nag. Yeah, but he says
it five times, I know, in
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the mirror. And I was sitting
there and I was like no, you
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don't know, Um, you know
what about to do. and well,
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she shows up and I was like
Yep, yeah, well, you did.
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Now. So you guys mentioned the
possible White Savior implications of her saving
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the baby, but honestly, I
think the the ending where it's her funeral
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and there's like nobody there and then
the whole community from the project shows up.
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To me that wasn't like a white
savior thing. That was like a
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people the projects got that. It
was the candy man. Yeah, he's
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the ones at our funerals, because
everyone thought she was just deranged murderer.
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That's happen to die in Amon fire, and the people the projects recognized,
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oh no, it was the candy
man. They're the only ones that actually
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believe her, yeah, and actually
exactize what's happening exactly. So that's that's
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like posthumous vindication for her story that
there were people that believed her. So
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I didn't. I know, I
didn't feel a whole white, white savior
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complex thing because she wasn't really the
hero of the story, right, I
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mean she was almost. I mean
she was a tragic figure as well.
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Exact. I mean I with with
the whole Candy Man Story. It's nothing
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but a series of tragic right,
right, flashes. I just feel bad
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for Bernadette. I'm just like yeah, over here, like I'm, yeah,
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the best friend. That's like,
girl, I'm here for you.
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What's going on? And then you
just get murdered. Yeah, no,
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yeah, yeah, and if you, you know, any listeners of dearly
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debated, if you feel differently,
you know, full disclosure, none of
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us are people of Color. So
it would be helpful to hear your thoughts
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on this as well. You know, are are there things were missing just
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because we white? Yeah, well, yeah, definitely. I mean I
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thought it was really good. I
mean it had the the racial commentary was
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much more visual than anything else,
right, but they did, I mean
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they did mention like after she gets
beat up and they arrest the guy,
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they're just walking. Haven't catch a
conversation, she says. Helen says,
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there are two. Know, too
brutal murders have occurred and yet please,
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they, please, did nothing,
and then a white woman gets beat up
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and now they've walked it all down. Right. Yeah, so I think
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they did have social commentary in there
and I thought it was I thought it
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was good. Yeah, I was
surprised and like like, I I was
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happy me that that part was in
there. Right, yeah, I'd forgotten
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it, but at the same time
I don't know that that was the main
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point of the movie. It might
have been, right, I think was
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kind of an undercurrent that that they
because of the how the's, how everything
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was framed, they ended up doing
that, which I enjoyed it. Here
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we go, let me, let
me Defang. Let Me Defang candy men
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for you so you can sleep here
at night. He came for you nowhere.
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Don't worry, Macho man made savage, going to protect you. Please,
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let me do all right. So, Katie man, I I thoroughly
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enjoyed it. And Man, the
score is so good and the organs,
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the soaring organ, just worked so
well with all the imagery. I thought
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it was paste perfectly. Like a
lot of these movies, I thought I
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had some pacing issues, but this
one I thought it didn't it. It's
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like there's really still a build where
you like it is candy man reel or
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not, and then it's like,
oh my God, he's real. Okay,
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so let me just read some of
my notes, though. Forty five
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minutes. Oh Shit, it's on. Why grab the knife, right?
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So she ends up. She finds
like she in the pool of blood red
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dog and she grabs the butcher knife
with blood on it, like okay,
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yeah, I know you're not thinking, but that's stupid. Okay, it
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out was first. At first I
was like, AH, why are you
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grabbing that? But then another part
was like she hears screaming, she's covered
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in blood. is she going to
need to protect herself that? Yeah,
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I thought that as well. But
as soon as she saw the other person
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should drop the knife and she didn't, and then, Oh damn, they
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killed a dog. Can't even gas
lighting, though. Oh the news reporter.
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I don't know you guys noticed this, but when they when like right
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after they she gets arrested, there's
a news reporter talking about the incidents and
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this person misread their scripts so bad. It was so bad. Sorry,
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do you think just grab like a
random smuck off the street? Say Hey,
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read this, it will so is
so out of place. Are Able.
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It was so it was so yeah, it was so random that think
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she comes on, is like,
and this evens like happen. It souks
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like and she stutters and repeats lines
and then I'm like, what is happening?
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So that he be reporter is played
by someone named Mika or MICA.
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Am I ka Mica, that was
not your best effort. Yeah, then
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I have referring to her his husband. He howed her, and then Tony
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Todd Hot, damn the window,
God, Damn, great ending. That
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was was my stream of consciousness watching
that movie. That I that window scene
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is just so good. Yeah,
that was the so, so many things
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I really enjoy about that film.
Yeah, I got to introduce Ryan to
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candy man maybe a month and a
half ago and he's like, the movie
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was amazing. Tony Todd is terrifying. Yeah, he's awesome. And I
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tweeted that and I tagged Tony Todd
and he replied enjoy. Yeah, he's
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like super active. Listen, you're
dad pulled back the cur for a on
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second and I don't think you understood. I doubt I saw you. I
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saw you covering your face. Yeah, Tony Todd is super active on twitter.
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So if you seem like a really
cool guy to if you if you
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tweet, Hey, dude, I
just watch candy man for the first time,
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he will say cool beans. Okay, so I'm definitely. I'm definitely
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yeah, whenever I added this episode, even though I got three other episodes,
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what happened at so Cayman Excellent.
Definitely Watch it, which brings us
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to the worst one. Well,
just real quick before we shift away,
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for we should wait. Yeah,
final thoughts of Kennyman. So there is
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going to be a candy man film. Is supposed to be. It was
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supposed to be released this year and
they not pushed back. Isn't Jordan Peele
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doing that? Jordan Peel, I
believe, is producing it, but it's
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directed by Nia da Costa, Nia
to costas also wouldn't be directing Captain Marvel
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too, and I'm so excited about
that. But but you know, we'll
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talk about this more when we come
to Halloween two thousand and eighteen. But
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this candy man kind of Ignores Candy
Man to and candy man three and is
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more of a spiritual sequel to the
original film. And so the lead character
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in that is Anthony, the little
baby that Virginia Madsen pulled out of yeah,
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okay, Sonny todds gonna be in
it. Yes, Tony Todd is
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reprising his role as the candy man. Cool, cool, and then,
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oh, the lead, that the
guy who's playing the lead in that.
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Hang on, he was in something
else I watched recently and he's really good.
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So I apologize because I'm probably going
to butcher this name. Yeah,
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yeah, Duel Matine, the second
yeah, yeah, he he was Manta
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in Aquaman and he was cal a
bar in watchman and he I don't know
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if you'll have watched the new watchman
series, but he was freaking amazing that.
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So I'm really excited to watch him
be Anthony in this film. Sweet,
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I'm a sound clip here that says
bounce back and I don't know.
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This is Alo. I'm gonna Click
it. Okay, bounce back, now
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it's I. It's like forgotten.
Yeah. So, anyway, I'm really,
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really hype to watch a candy man
film directed by a black woman,
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Jordan Poh so. So, Jordan
Peele wrote the screenplay along with Nia da
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Costa. When Rosenfeld and yeah,
and so I was curious if this was
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going if this was based on another
Clive Barker book, but it looks like
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it's actually just based on the film. Sorry, thank my microphone, but
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yeah, anyway, this is going
to be really good and it's expected August.
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Twenty seven, two thousand and twenty
one. So Nice. All right.
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Yeah, I don't know, I
feel like I'm starting to get into
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horror movies. Thanks, Ashley.
You're well. Now I gotta go watch
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these things. You're welcome. Really. Yeah, I really, really enjoyed
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canny man. I really really enjoyed
us. A good story is a good
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story. Yeah, holling twenty teen, I thought was good. I don't
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know if I'd go back and Rewatch
it. I would re watch with canny
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man and US. Okay, Um, cool, okay, okay, man
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done. So let procton's gold chargerarch
a green boat. Oh my gosh.
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So we were talking before we started
recording and I recently just watched all of
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friends for the first time over the
summer. So I've wouldn't that's back now
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time I went back and watched some
of like the the actors earlier catalog,
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specifically Courtney Cox because I'm Monica Geller, if we're being real honesty. But
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this is the first thing I've ever
seen Jennifer Aniston and besides friends and yeah,
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because I don't think I've ever seen
anything else she's been in. But
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this was a year before friends.
I was like man, girls got to
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eat, because this movie was traction. Yeah, yeah, so she was
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00:27:23.890 --> 00:27:27.690
like one of the only reasons like
kept watching. Well, and I really
393
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like war with Davis because I thought
were wed Davis was the only good part
394
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.720
of them. Yeah, I say
were we Davis is awesome. Also,
395
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:38.960
the guy who played Nathan played the
Card Sun in season seven next Gen.
396
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:42.160
I was like, this guy's familiar. What do I know? WHOSE FACES?
397
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:48.710
That's why it was the next year
watch anyway. So, yeah,
398
00:27:48.829 --> 00:27:52.269
so the lebricon, see that the
buckles, I'd be shoes. Why?
399
00:27:52.349 --> 00:28:00.660
I'm a LEPRICON, so lricon ninety
three, Warwick Davis being the literal Lepricaon.
400
00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:03.339
He's got a pot of goal with
apparently a hundred coins in it.
401
00:28:03.420 --> 00:28:07.980
It opens with some drunk Irish from
drunk all Irish Guy Eil Grady, pulls
402
00:28:08.019 --> 00:28:11.980
up in a limo and as like
look, Wifie I got. I got
403
00:28:11.059 --> 00:28:15.329
gold for days because I caught a
LEPERCA. LEPCON shows up. was like
404
00:28:15.769 --> 00:28:19.170
no, Sir Hills the well,
okay, he doesn't actually kill the wife.
405
00:28:19.170 --> 00:28:22.450
A wife just like freaks out and
trips down the stairs. So he
406
00:28:22.609 --> 00:28:26.210
technically did not kill her. I
mean it was his fault, but he
407
00:28:26.210 --> 00:28:30.920
didn't. It wasn't. It was
manslaughter and not first agree. He wouldn't
408
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.200
have killed it. Oh No,
he would. The intentist, although he
409
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:40.359
doesn't see, will say right,
he didn't kill o grady. No,
410
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:44.549
he didn't kill Ouzy Auzi, because
it's like, I don't know where your
411
00:28:44.589 --> 00:28:47.230
gold is. He's like whatever,
it is your but oh grady, oh
412
00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:49.750
grady, like puts him in a
box. He shoots him with a shotgun
413
00:28:49.789 --> 00:28:52.990
or hits with Hammer, something knocks
him out. But it's been a box.
414
00:28:52.069 --> 00:28:56.140
But a four leaflover on the box, because apparently that's all it takes
415
00:28:56.140 --> 00:29:00.259
to stop leprican is one single for
leaflover. Yep, yeah, true.
416
00:29:00.299 --> 00:29:03.420
And then he has a stroke.
And so it's like ten years later in
417
00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:07.380
Jennifer Aniston and her dad, who's
again don't remember any character names. They
418
00:29:07.500 --> 00:29:10.930
show up to this cabin. Jennifer
anison. I just have no rude af
419
00:29:11.049 --> 00:29:15.809
Jennifer Aniston is just like playing the
braddiest Brat. I was like, man,
420
00:29:15.930 --> 00:29:19.170
she's Rachel in this. Too Bad
that at the very beginning I either
421
00:29:19.329 --> 00:29:23.640
wasn't paying attention enough or like I
was very unsure whether or not it was
422
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.599
her dad or like an older boy. Yeah, yeah, I know,
423
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.440
it's her dad. I I figured
that out then as I kept watching.
424
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.680
But that's why. Then when that
other uncle cock, yes, is there
425
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.480
and is like painting and I was
like, would you really just like hery
426
00:29:37.670 --> 00:29:41.829
with him out right? Yeah,
hello, MR toxic, Max Masculinity high.
427
00:29:44.950 --> 00:29:47.549
So okay. So this is where
my mind went because again, this
428
00:29:47.630 --> 00:29:49.789
movie was like the pacing in this
move was terrible. We compared to canny
429
00:29:49.829 --> 00:29:52.539
man, we can't even his basic
was like slow, methodical, and stuff
430
00:29:52.579 --> 00:29:56.220
happened right when you were started to
calm down, like procom was like nothing
431
00:29:56.460 --> 00:30:00.099
is happening, and then something I
have and then nothing happens. Something,
432
00:30:00.299 --> 00:30:03.220
and then it was not well paced. But right when they get to the
433
00:30:03.259 --> 00:30:06.779
cabin, they walk in and there's
just massive spider. Oh my gosh,
434
00:30:06.819 --> 00:30:08.490
I know, and I was like
that's a tarantula, and so then I
435
00:30:08.609 --> 00:30:11.970
looked up. I just wrote down
arch Rantula is indigenous to North Dakota because
436
00:30:11.970 --> 00:30:15.049
I mentioned they're not Koda, and
so I looked it off. The answer
437
00:30:15.130 --> 00:30:17.609
is no, that spider had no
business being there. I looked up what
438
00:30:17.690 --> 00:30:19.650
spiders are and they're all like this
big. They're all like none of them
439
00:30:19.730 --> 00:30:23.880
get a nice long appreciate your commitment
to science. I even bother me.
440
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.640
I was like, wait about TRANTELA's? Don't twin Tu that tranchlas like warm
441
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:32.839
areas, like showing Rola, and
we know they're also edible in Cambodia.
442
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.480
Yeah, there do I know?
I've watched a video of a Guy Cram
443
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.750
one. No, thank you,
I need one, but like, I'm
444
00:30:37.869 --> 00:30:41.190
terrified. Oh, I know.
So let's be refilled. The story is
445
00:30:41.309 --> 00:30:45.430
the spider like came on the screen. I was lucky done at that,
446
00:30:45.549 --> 00:30:51.859
butterly on my laptop and I tilted
it up, but I was watching.
447
00:30:57.579 --> 00:31:07.609
But I don't like is the eight
legend Bug spiders impossible? They want me
448
00:31:07.650 --> 00:31:15.329
to tect that? Now that was
the scariest part of the movie for me.
449
00:31:15.490 --> 00:31:19.480
M Yeah, I mean this was
supposed to be a horror comedy,
450
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.119
because it's yeah, it's not.
It's zero. I also have that zero
451
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:29.599
percent horrific. Also I have yikes
characterization and pacing so slow foot fetish.
452
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.799
That was weird. Yeah, I
mean it didn't even make sense, like
453
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:36.990
I don't even think that's like within
Leprecon Lore. That like Lebri concert they
454
00:31:37.109 --> 00:31:40.789
make about like making Jay losing.
Yeah, I think whoever wrote it got
455
00:31:40.910 --> 00:31:42.470
it confuse with the tail about the
tailor. They gets held by the fairies,
456
00:31:42.589 --> 00:31:48.500
the goat, the collar and his
elves, yet to confuse the cross.
457
00:31:48.700 --> 00:31:52.299
It's like it's so kind of Irish
and I was like I had don't
458
00:31:52.339 --> 00:31:57.779
remember. I don't remember set patrick
saying anything about this. Say I'm saying
459
00:31:57.779 --> 00:32:02.329
I think it was like I'm just
not not going to mention that. I
460
00:32:02.809 --> 00:32:10.049
play a character in DD with an
offensive Irish accent. Well, so when
461
00:32:10.369 --> 00:32:15.279
the scene where the LEPRECON opens,
he's looking for his naty snacks neck or
462
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.640
looking for his goal or whatever,
but he pulls out the box of Lucky
463
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:27.880
clovers. I was like, yeah, they went there dadding me bowling was
464
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.190
absurd. What did the little boy
say at the end? I forget.
465
00:32:30.750 --> 00:32:37.710
He said Fuck. I was like, I'm using that phrase as I most
466
00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:39.869
likely. I'm shocked. That's not
on the sound board. I couldn't.
467
00:32:40.069 --> 00:32:44.539
I didn't have time. I would
your lucky charms. I wanted to finish
468
00:32:44.579 --> 00:32:46.660
watching I wanted to finish watching us. No, it's fine, it's fine.
469
00:32:46.700 --> 00:32:50.019
I yeah, I did not have
time. So I don't know what
470
00:32:50.099 --> 00:32:52.299
rating this podcast is, because I
just said he well, you need to
471
00:32:52.339 --> 00:32:58.259
push stop swearing. He has spared
sounds. I guess for us you're just
472
00:32:58.339 --> 00:33:00.529
getting normal weeks. Ye have to
be on. You have to be on
473
00:33:00.569 --> 00:33:01.890
more than once. It's like like
after you got to be here more than
474
00:33:01.970 --> 00:33:07.769
once. You're on. Swear sounds. I'd come back if it was anything.
475
00:33:08.450 --> 00:33:19.000
Why? I just love Jackie Simmons. I need more Jaki Simmons on
476
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.519
the sound board. was talking about
we were talking about the lucky time.
477
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.440
Yeah, so the best part of
the movie was when he killed the guy
478
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.589
with the pogo sticks. I just
like so silly, Gosh and Oh my
479
00:33:29.750 --> 00:33:34.509
God, and then and then he
said some sort of stupid like jumping pun
480
00:33:34.750 --> 00:33:40.269
afterwards. o Bounce back no time. Yes, it's like, oh my
481
00:33:40.349 --> 00:33:46.539
gosh, they really went. Why? He's like looks around and then grabs
482
00:33:46.900 --> 00:33:53.940
you got focus slowly. I got
just like don't just gonna leave them like
483
00:33:54.019 --> 00:33:58.089
injured on the ground, and then
he gets a freaking pogo stick and I
484
00:33:58.210 --> 00:34:02.009
was like what why? And also
the dudes face is all bloody right,
485
00:34:02.049 --> 00:34:08.610
but lovercon only jumped on his chest
for no reason, like did his hands
486
00:34:08.650 --> 00:34:14.599
going on his face? No,
I assumed it was backsplash. It was.
487
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.840
It's so it's that that is like
the worst best moment of the movies.
488
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.599
It's like, this is so stupid. But what other movie you're going
489
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.510
to see a guy killed by a
pogo stick, like death by Pogo.
490
00:34:23.670 --> 00:34:32.309
Come on now, HMM bouts back
now. I'm so bad. And honestly,
491
00:34:32.389 --> 00:34:37.989
that movie just dragged. Yeah,
I'm like I I was watching it
492
00:34:37.030 --> 00:34:40.099
while trying to get ready this afternoon
and I was like, seriously, this
493
00:34:40.340 --> 00:34:45.099
is is like, are we done
yet? Also, Greg would have wept
494
00:34:45.139 --> 00:34:50.619
because the audio mixing is for shoot, it's so bad. I watched it
495
00:34:50.739 --> 00:34:54.369
on my phone, no headphone.
So I yeah, so, so the
496
00:34:55.010 --> 00:35:00.090
leps were we're Davis is voice is
not at the same level as everyone else's,
497
00:35:00.090 --> 00:35:02.809
and then there's like nine times with
a little kid is named Andy or
498
00:35:04.730 --> 00:35:07.199
something that something like that. The
little kid who looks like a chucky doll,
499
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.320
like a live action Chucky, but
I noticed that that it was like
500
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:15.440
they dressed him an awful lot like
my buddy. Alex is the name of
501
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.519
the kid. It's a manager Green
Boat. Him and Azzi were okay,
502
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.590
although Azzi, being mentally deficient,
was a little weird. Ozzie apparently comes
503
00:35:22.670 --> 00:35:29.429
back in the two thousand and eighteen
one lepricn returns Manh Yeah, back and
504
00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:31.710
we're pretty sure so it's killed with
a mailbox in that one I've seen.
505
00:35:31.789 --> 00:35:36.500
I've always thought the cook out the
Lepricron is one where it gets better,
506
00:35:36.900 --> 00:35:38.739
not that it ever gets great,
but it gets better because they just like,
507
00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:42.460
okay, we're just going to make
as silly a movie as possible right,
508
00:35:42.579 --> 00:35:45.460
like he goes to space and then
he goes to the hood and yeah,
509
00:35:45.739 --> 00:35:49.900
yeah, yeah, and they has
his own wrap. Yeah, it's
510
00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:51.809
it gets it gets up, which
I think we should go watch it.
511
00:35:52.130 --> 00:35:55.010
It gets roll back. Okay,
legitimately, I would be interested in maybe
512
00:35:55.130 --> 00:35:59.449
watching them. Maybe is like a
group. I woke up and put some
513
00:35:59.570 --> 00:36:05.400
out on this and that was an
interesting thing to watch too. Was that
514
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.360
the first thing degree I watched?
Ya, so yesterday I watched Ye,
515
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:13.320
yesterday I watch Halloween and Tuckerndale,
and today I watched lebricon first in the
516
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.239
morning, then candy man than us
me. So, yeah, that wasn't
517
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.309
like wasn't it wasn't a great thing
to do first thing in the morning.
518
00:36:19.630 --> 00:36:21.869
I just I just wasted an hour
and a half. Weird I just like
519
00:36:22.030 --> 00:36:23.789
woke up, grabbed my laptop and
was like all right, time to watch
520
00:36:23.789 --> 00:36:29.389
LEPRICON and I was like it's too
early for they think about it this way.
521
00:36:29.429 --> 00:36:36.860
Your date only got better. I
went work better. That's so that
522
00:36:37.019 --> 00:36:39.860
movie was not good. Yeah,
boy, the acting. The acting was
523
00:36:39.900 --> 00:36:44.780
atrocious. I think Oraor Davis was
trying, although his accent kind of slips.
524
00:36:44.940 --> 00:36:47.730
Yeah, yeah, audio mixing is
all over the yeah, so when
525
00:36:47.730 --> 00:36:52.929
the kid Alex is like scramming around
in the Barn muttering to himself, that
526
00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:57.130
is not what he is saying.
It's completely it's like clearly separately recorded audio.
527
00:36:57.210 --> 00:37:00.639
That's they dubbed over and it's bad. Well, and then then,
528
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.280
okay, they shoot him into the
well, right, they find it for
529
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.000
the clover at the shoe m into
the well and although, okay, Yep,
530
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:08.920
the when he was driving his little
truck right and got pulled over.
531
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:13.719
That was pretty funny. Did you
okay? When he flips their car?
532
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:15.989
Yeah, finally a hidiot with this
tiny each rug. I was like that,
533
00:37:16.389 --> 00:37:21.510
no, wouldn't happen. No,
he's magic. Yeah, the same
534
00:37:21.550 --> 00:37:24.190
magic. Okay, he had obtained
like one gold coin at that point and
535
00:37:24.309 --> 00:37:29.309
therefore his magic heading, but barely. Yes, but it's still stupid.
536
00:37:29.469 --> 00:37:31.860
You know. Did they have all
nine united that point in one Thousan ninehundred
537
00:37:31.860 --> 00:37:35.460
and ninetyd all the ones except the
one ausey eight. Did I actually,
538
00:37:35.860 --> 00:37:37.699
yeah, he did anything. But
when they find it, he bites one
539
00:37:37.739 --> 00:37:40.380
and then he swallows it. Looks. Yes, they not going to the
540
00:37:40.420 --> 00:37:43.900
well. He starts melting, which
man? Those special effects, though.
541
00:37:44.969 --> 00:37:47.570
They knock him in and he comes
back out, toxic, masculine, comes
542
00:37:47.570 --> 00:37:51.730
rifle butts and poor some gas and
lights a match, flicks it in there
543
00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:57.409
and then there's a nuclear explosion.
And Yeah, I beg your pardon.
544
00:37:57.530 --> 00:38:01.960
What were you keeping in that well? Meth not what you keep something,
545
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.840
I mean, but the North Dakota
get our water from the city. We
546
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.719
don't want to meet our well's just
waste in space. Let's build them at
547
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.190
less kids. Make a wish.
I wish for Meth I got it.
548
00:38:15.510 --> 00:38:17.750
Hey, I don't. Honestly,
I don't know how much more I could
549
00:38:17.750 --> 00:38:21.349
talk about. This movie is terrible, you know. You know, it's
550
00:38:21.389 --> 00:38:24.110
one of those where is probably better
watched as a group with alcohol, with
551
00:38:24.230 --> 00:38:28.340
alcohol. Yeah, like, that's
what I'm saying is I would definitely be
552
00:38:28.340 --> 00:38:30.739
down to watch the other ones because
they sound utterly ridiculous. Yeah, part
553
00:38:30.780 --> 00:38:34.860
of me, honestly kind of wants
to skip like two and three and just
554
00:38:34.980 --> 00:38:38.260
go straight to like outer space and
facebooly. So, yeah, my understanding
555
00:38:38.340 --> 00:38:43.849
is one is probably the weakest one. Almost the reboot is like the lepricon
556
00:38:43.929 --> 00:38:45.929
origins. One is like a gritty
reboot one. Why? When I watch
557
00:38:46.050 --> 00:38:50.170
that? The whole point of Leftricon
is that it's absurd. Yeah, it's
558
00:38:50.170 --> 00:38:53.170
ABSURDA doofy. Okay, the line
of Shamrock your world, lowky makes me
559
00:38:53.289 --> 00:38:55.800
want to watch. Yeah, well, that was a that was like a
560
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.960
return to form. They went back
to all right, let's move on from
561
00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:04.360
that terrible movie to another good movie, which I guess chronologically, we Tuckerendale,
562
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.760
Tucker and Dale Versus Evil Two thousand
and twenty that's the act. We
563
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.710
had sound two differently. So I
got it right here. You are a
564
00:39:13.909 --> 00:39:17.110
good looking man, more or less. You got a damn good heart.
565
00:39:19.710 --> 00:39:24.860
Wait, that's two things right there. It is just be gem. He's
566
00:39:24.900 --> 00:39:29.219
a he's a wonderful man. He's
so funny. Yeah, and so again,
567
00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:31.219
spoilers. I'm kind of because it. They established it really ear in
568
00:39:31.260 --> 00:39:34.260
the movie, but I love that. I love the way that the movie
569
00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:37.650
opens with like the typical college fat
people who like, Oh, these people
570
00:39:37.650 --> 00:39:42.010
are all going to get murdered,
going and they passed the Hillbaly truck and
571
00:39:42.010 --> 00:39:44.650
they look all angry and they pulled
the gas station and then it switches to
572
00:39:44.690 --> 00:39:49.889
the perspective of Tuckerndale, who are
the actual protagonists. I it's really fun.
573
00:39:50.329 --> 00:39:52.880
And then, of course, the
you know, they end up skinny
574
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:57.559
dipping, whatever will, Tuckerdale fishing. One of them falls in hits her
575
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:00.840
head and so they rescue her and
they're like yelling at them, we're got
576
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:06.760
your crown. There's so many things
as like, dude, do you get
577
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:13.070
yourself when you talk? It's it's
obviously the whole movie is completely predicated on
578
00:40:13.550 --> 00:40:16.670
the college kids think that they're serial
killers. And they're not really doing anything
579
00:40:16.670 --> 00:40:20.469
to help their case and no one
ever tries to sit down to like the
580
00:40:20.510 --> 00:40:22.699
very o of the we when it's
way too late and everyone's dead. But
581
00:40:22.940 --> 00:40:27.780
it it's absurd, but it's absurd
in a great way, especially when,
582
00:40:27.820 --> 00:40:30.380
after they like all look, the
guy throws some of the wood chipper and
583
00:40:30.420 --> 00:40:34.739
the guys fears himself on this.
It's pretty gruesome. But when, yeah,
584
00:40:35.619 --> 00:40:38.130
but duck, just like freaking out. I don't, this is this
585
00:40:38.369 --> 00:40:45.730
is suicide code. Damn, college
kids come up here kill themselves all over
586
00:40:45.769 --> 00:40:50.840
the property. It's yeah, like
they're just going to just like have a
587
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.159
fishing trip and just, yeah,
I think so. Well. And also
588
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.480
it was that they were trying to
play off of movies like the hills have
589
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.639
eyes and yeah, turn, yeah, which also fun fact. We.
590
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.949
I thought of two completely different movies
while watching this. See that that's actual
591
00:41:04.989 --> 00:41:07.110
chainsaw. I. Yes, I
think that one also is one of the
592
00:41:07.230 --> 00:41:10.349
Texas chainsaw. Yet definitely, like
with the they walk into the cabin.
593
00:41:10.789 --> 00:41:15.789
The do you think this cabin was
owned by scientists, like all these those
594
00:41:15.829 --> 00:41:20.099
like, oh no, let their
face shown. This cabin. I do.
595
00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:22.900
I do always love and it's a
really huge joke, but for some
596
00:41:22.980 --> 00:41:27.940
reason I always enjoy it where someone
staring at something and even from the cameras
597
00:41:28.059 --> 00:41:30.900
you're seeing all these horrible things and
the person like zones and on something they
598
00:41:30.940 --> 00:41:34.690
do on Santa Clary to diet where
they walk into the Nazi's house and Joel's
599
00:41:34.730 --> 00:41:37.090
looking at the shelf and it's like, Oh my God, is showing all
600
00:41:37.090 --> 00:41:38.610
this Nazi memorabilia and all this stuff
and like, oh my gosh, I
601
00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:43.449
got not see's like this shelf is
amazing, it's this, is this tea,
602
00:41:43.730 --> 00:41:46.050
like he's just completely misses the Nazi
stuff. My I love I love
603
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:50.639
that so that I going over all
this horrible grizzly murder stuff and like Julie
604
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:55.679
Dogs, no expliration day, the
cube on the exterior, the cabinet straight
605
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.079
out of evil dead. Oh yeah, undred percent, hundred well it was.
606
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.789
I think they he wanted to combine
the cabin from evil dead and wrong
607
00:42:02.909 --> 00:42:07.070
turn. Maybe. So I have
not seen wrong turn in the hills.
608
00:42:07.070 --> 00:42:09.869
Have Eyes. So fun fact,
those were like the first horror movies I've
609
00:42:09.909 --> 00:42:15.309
seen. Why? I don't know. Reas intense. Yeah, what's craven
610
00:42:15.349 --> 00:42:20.300
don't plays? Huh? I so
this is what happened. Is when I
611
00:42:20.420 --> 00:42:22.099
was younger I was like I don't
know how I feel about horror movies,
612
00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:27.099
and then at much time, I've
write it. Every time I was homesick,
613
00:42:28.099 --> 00:42:30.050
there were tend to be a horror
movie marathon on, but of course
614
00:42:30.090 --> 00:42:34.530
it would be like all of the
wrong turns, and I'm like well,
615
00:42:34.610 --> 00:42:37.690
it's daylight, so like now's the
time too, if I'm gonna start.
616
00:42:38.250 --> 00:42:43.210
And so I saw like all of
the wrong turn movies and then the hills
617
00:42:43.250 --> 00:42:45.719
have eyes was going to come on, I think at a different time,
618
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.320
and I was like, Oh,
that's clearly about ghosts. I don't know
619
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.559
why. I'd never heard anything about
it. And I watched it and I
620
00:42:52.639 --> 00:43:00.949
was like, no, it's more
cannibals. I've seen is cannibals. And
621
00:43:01.150 --> 00:43:05.429
so also the check type, this
Chancel Maskar, and I've watched movie couple
622
00:43:05.469 --> 00:43:07.469
times. I just noticed this today. The original right, the original?
623
00:43:07.550 --> 00:43:12.150
Yes, that's correct. So when
he chained saws the the high by accident
624
00:43:12.190 --> 00:43:15.460
and he runs out and he's like
spinning around, he's doing the chain saw
625
00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:20.900
dance from Texas chainsaw Massa dance from
the end, which I didn't know I
626
00:43:21.059 --> 00:43:22.099
was I was just like always speaking
out. But then I say, I
627
00:43:22.179 --> 00:43:25.739
saw a video on why. I've
ever seen Texas chainsaw ever, but I
628
00:43:25.780 --> 00:43:29.849
finally saw the kill counts for it. And so you know, that's they
629
00:43:29.969 --> 00:43:32.250
deep. They use that dance over. Yeah again, it's it's just like
630
00:43:32.409 --> 00:43:36.570
running. Well, they had said
that. That was one. I think
631
00:43:36.570 --> 00:43:39.690
they had two scenes created that like
they wanted to do before they had any
632
00:43:39.769 --> 00:43:43.000
of the cast Oryeah, any of
that stuff, and that was one of
633
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.039
the scenes that they were like yeah, that was very well done. It
634
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.199
was a nice Omi. I was
I yeah, it was, it was.
635
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:52.000
It was really fun. Well,
I mean the whole thing is picking
636
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:55.869
on the idea of like stereotypes of
like the backwoods. Oh, yeah,
637
00:43:55.989 --> 00:44:01.949
to people. And Yeah, so
I got damn stupid college kids. This
638
00:44:02.070 --> 00:44:07.829
vacation sucks my notes. I was
writing down understandment. So the year.
639
00:44:09.260 --> 00:44:13.300
So I don't know if you noticed, but Chad. So these kids all
640
00:44:13.300 --> 00:44:15.139
kill themselves, starting on themselves,
and one of them is like going crazier
641
00:44:15.179 --> 00:44:20.940
and crazier crazier and getting like bloodthirsty. Use Chad. I don't know if
642
00:44:20.940 --> 00:44:23.369
you notice, but over the course
of this film he's collar gets more and
643
00:44:23.489 --> 00:44:28.570
more popped like it starts off normal
and then the end it's like flick straight
644
00:44:28.690 --> 00:44:31.730
up, like over his ears.
I don't know that was deliberate. I
645
00:44:31.929 --> 00:44:36.130
think it was. I think it
was a deliberate choice, like he becoming
646
00:44:36.170 --> 00:44:40.119
more and more of a douchebag and
she's college. Is Funny. How else
647
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:45.800
would you fly it? It's illustrate
he's not just sending the eatlists. Collars
648
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:52.070
fully erect. That's how that's how
you visually demonstrate a descent into madness.
649
00:44:52.190 --> 00:44:55.349
By how the only way I could
have gotten more was if he had put
650
00:44:55.389 --> 00:45:00.030
another show on the pop. That
me right, gradually pop my collars round,
651
00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:01.590
just like slowly. Oh my gosh, she's going and say it's too
652
00:45:01.670 --> 00:45:06.550
much. Oh Man, it's too
much. No one side well accounts.
653
00:45:06.590 --> 00:45:10.619
It doesn't make sense. But so
I did notice from like a cinematography standpoint,
654
00:45:12.340 --> 00:45:15.500
when Tucker is being chased through the
woods, it's like almost an exact
655
00:45:15.539 --> 00:45:21.889
mirroring of the story they tell of
the the murders, from the beginning of
656
00:45:21.969 --> 00:45:23.409
the girl he chased, the way
accept this talker. He's like the one
657
00:45:23.449 --> 00:45:29.409
leaves on himself. Hmm, talk
he's I love the other guy, the
658
00:45:29.489 --> 00:45:31.610
other guy's great, but Allan Tuddock
is the best part of that movie.
659
00:45:31.650 --> 00:45:36.199
He's so funny. He's just constantly
like it gets sung by bees. He
660
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:37.760
comes in, pops a PBR I
just like pouring beer in his face.
661
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.559
He gets his hand, his hand
like the cut his fingers off. He
662
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.679
goes over, Starts Porning Beers,
you know, alcohol. He did.
663
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.239
Yeah, that's it wasn't like written
in there. He was the one that
664
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.829
came up with the fact that,
like he should pour beer on his face
665
00:45:51.989 --> 00:45:54.630
for his these things that that seems
appropriate. And and like, you know
666
00:45:54.750 --> 00:45:59.309
what, I really love the romance
with Dale. Oh so good. And
667
00:45:59.550 --> 00:46:05.139
like they they do so many things
to wear like they people on the outside
668
00:46:05.139 --> 00:46:07.579
are going to think they're gay.
Like, I don't know, like the
669
00:46:07.619 --> 00:46:09.739
whole scene where they're getting pulled over
by the cop and they like me,
670
00:46:09.940 --> 00:46:13.380
I was like, oh no,
that cop is going to think other things
671
00:46:13.420 --> 00:46:15.820
are happening right, right, Um, and then just so many other things,
672
00:46:15.900 --> 00:46:19.130
like just you know, the way
they do. You want me to
673
00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:23.409
pull those stingers out of your faces? To that, though, is I'm
674
00:46:23.449 --> 00:46:28.610
gonna find it. I have the
movie open for the part where they're like
675
00:46:28.650 --> 00:46:31.449
shooting at him. In the cabin
and they get into a fight. It's
676
00:46:31.530 --> 00:46:37.800
the the conversation is just like so
bromance. I love it, I do.
677
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:42.480
I do like the romance and I
don't know it because I am a
678
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:47.710
straight girl. I don't know if
if people who are not watching this film
679
00:46:47.750 --> 00:46:52.829
would you that as Queer bating.
So I'm just I'm again things. I
680
00:46:52.909 --> 00:46:55.750
don't know if you know the answer
to these questions. I don't think it
681
00:46:55.989 --> 00:47:00.460
is as maybe, okay, arguably, that he pulled over seen is played
682
00:47:00.500 --> 00:47:04.300
for that kind of laughs, right, but they're just to pick it as
683
00:47:04.340 --> 00:47:07.219
good friends. Ye. So,
yeah, here's here's one of my pair
684
00:47:07.260 --> 00:47:10.099
of things, but it's still working. There's something there. That's what happened.
685
00:47:10.139 --> 00:47:15.619
If there wasn't for you. That's
right, for being such a Goddamn
686
00:47:15.659 --> 00:47:19.250
Good Samaritan. Oh my God,
she's drowning, Tucker. Oh let's savor.
687
00:47:19.409 --> 00:47:22.449
Oh, let's savor. Well,
howless she still love? Oh Hallo,
688
00:47:22.610 --> 00:47:25.369
Fuck Louis, don't you dare blame
us on her. Not Blaming this
689
00:47:25.449 --> 00:47:29.210
whole thing on her. I'm blaming
this old thing on you, when you
690
00:47:29.289 --> 00:47:32.239
know what, Tuck, none of
this would have happened if we hadn't a
691
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:37.719
gun fishing. That isn't even an
option. I don't even like the fiship.
692
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:45.869
You don't like you mean you don't
like fishing. I like it.
693
00:47:45.989 --> 00:47:51.309
Okay, you know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Tucker to her feelings.
694
00:47:52.349 --> 00:47:59.260
I'm sorry. Yeah, he kind
of did. Just love that.
695
00:48:00.340 --> 00:48:04.940
It's just the tension, just deplaceribulance. Yeah, you kind of did,
696
00:48:05.219 --> 00:48:08.099
but I actually I did have I'm
blaming this old thing on you. That's
697
00:48:08.099 --> 00:48:13.289
staying on the group of things.
So good aspris at all. But yeah,
698
00:48:13.369 --> 00:48:16.889
I mean it does like escalate to
the point of just maximum absurdity with
699
00:48:17.329 --> 00:48:21.369
how the the rest of the kids
end up buying right. So, like,
700
00:48:21.650 --> 00:48:24.130
Oh yeah, I think it peeks
at the woodchipper scene when the when
701
00:48:24.170 --> 00:48:28.679
the cop comes and they have the
half that body in the leg. Wait,
702
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.519
I have it. We've had a
doozy of a day. Yeah,
703
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:37.880
I don't know, like the the
whole idea the dumb girl who she's like,
704
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:42.150
oh no, you're on fire and
then she literally throws and I'm sure
705
00:48:44.150 --> 00:48:47.590
as a descendant of moonshiners. Well, I will say they do establish the
706
00:48:47.630 --> 00:48:52.190
college characters with about one note right, but they're pretty good at sticking with
707
00:48:52.269 --> 00:48:54.030
that. And the black guy is
like the last one at I can see
708
00:48:54.030 --> 00:48:58.300
super cautious. MM So, I
mean he still dies, right, but
709
00:48:58.780 --> 00:49:01.579
will? Isn't his dad like the
one that he talked about in the story?
710
00:49:01.820 --> 00:49:05.460
No, no, that's chat,
that's Chad. Oh, wherever it's
711
00:49:05.460 --> 00:49:07.980
a yeah, that's that's towards the
end where it turns out that that Chad's
712
00:49:08.260 --> 00:49:12.449
motain, because I like the tell
a store worry about hill billy's like murder
713
00:49:12.489 --> 00:49:15.329
a bunch of people and his mom
was feeling I got away. But it
714
00:49:15.409 --> 00:49:19.250
also turns out that he was impregnant. She was impregnated by Hill Billy.
715
00:49:19.690 --> 00:49:22.690
So this it comes to the out
there in the by the way, this
716
00:49:22.849 --> 00:49:27.320
is your dad. You can't be
true. You're half full billy. Yeah,
717
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:30.719
I'm like, yes, or because
that's a genetic thing that you passed
718
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:32.920
on it. Hell, they'll like, I love it, and they'll billy
719
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.480
is not ethnicity. And then they
work in like the found footage stuff too.
720
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.630
They're working a lot of a lot
of stuff, even though on the
721
00:49:40.829 --> 00:49:45.949
that the image of falling out of
the thing from the original Halloween right,
722
00:49:45.949 --> 00:49:46.949
yes, yes, I thought about
that too. Is Like, oh,
723
00:49:46.989 --> 00:49:51.150
are they going to turn away,
he gonna be gone and it's kind of
724
00:49:51.190 --> 00:49:52.860
like, I think having in the
woods is a similar thing, where it's
725
00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:57.420
it's an homage to horror in a
way. That's just like a really fun
726
00:49:57.539 --> 00:50:00.619
movie right right now. This was
a fun with this is my first time
727
00:50:00.739 --> 00:50:04.940
watching that today. I really enjoyed
it, since it's so good. Well,
728
00:50:05.019 --> 00:50:07.570
I need know. It's been on
my list for years because even before
729
00:50:07.570 --> 00:50:12.210
I liked horror movies, one of
my Grad School professors, Dr Amy Sturgis
730
00:50:12.730 --> 00:50:15.969
Gee every year she loves Halloween's her
favorite holiday. So she does thirty one
731
00:50:15.010 --> 00:50:20.730
days of Halloween on her blog and
she always posts a movie list and she
732
00:50:20.849 --> 00:50:24.280
doesn't actually really like horror movie,
but she likes she likes more like thoughtful
733
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:28.199
and like horror comedy and things like
that. So actually get all really good
734
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.800
like horror movie recommendations on from her, but that was one that was on
735
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:36.030
her list because when she's a big
firefly flank, and so she was really
736
00:50:36.030 --> 00:50:38.309
excited to see Ellen too took in
a movie of like this, but she's
737
00:50:38.349 --> 00:50:43.269
like this is really be fun and
how it plays with the horror genre and
738
00:50:43.389 --> 00:50:46.150
deals like with ropes, and the
first time I watched this. I remember
739
00:50:46.190 --> 00:50:50.340
it was with my best friend from
college and we were looking for a movie
740
00:50:50.420 --> 00:50:52.619
to watch. Me was like this
movie is really funny, we should watch
741
00:50:52.619 --> 00:50:57.300
it, and that was like the
only thing I knew about is. See,
742
00:50:57.380 --> 00:51:00.420
I had them, I think,
only because of the movie posters and
743
00:51:01.059 --> 00:51:05.250
him holding a chainsaw. I assume
it was this was a Zombie movie.
744
00:51:05.690 --> 00:51:08.289
That was not correct. See,
I just didn't even know. So all
745
00:51:08.329 --> 00:51:12.449
of a sudden, like go,
we're starts. Yeah, and I just
746
00:51:12.530 --> 00:51:15.769
started like hiding my face. It
was just like what is happening? My
747
00:51:15.849 --> 00:51:20.360
friend was like, I thought you
would be better with this. Yeah,
748
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.119
it was a it was like shockingly
corgeous. Yeah, if it was like
749
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:27.719
it's played for comm and yes,
still like right, my God, yeah,
750
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.679
it's. It's viewing from the wood
chippers. It is. God's pretty
751
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.829
absurdly over the top, although I
will say with the woodchipper thing, they
752
00:51:34.949 --> 00:51:37.269
totally did that in a James Bond
movie that was ready to pg it's the
753
00:51:37.349 --> 00:51:40.429
worst one. It's on Her Majesty's
Secret Service, that's and they're like skiing
754
00:51:40.550 --> 00:51:44.070
down the slope and the dude like
goes a rig. Oh okay, it's
755
00:51:44.110 --> 00:51:45.750
the only one with George was zmb
because he was so bad. They he's
756
00:51:45.869 --> 00:51:50.099
greatly bond to only at one film. Well, I've had some say only
757
00:51:50.340 --> 00:51:52.139
only time bond ever got married.
Yeah, I've had someone told me that
758
00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:55.139
was best movie because of that.
I'm like sorry, I can't take any
759
00:51:55.260 --> 00:51:58.820
opinion seriously anymore. I I've not
seen it, but I loved and it
760
00:51:58.900 --> 00:52:01.010
has nothing to do with the marriage
thing, although they kind of spoiler for
761
00:52:01.090 --> 00:52:05.170
a like forty, fifty six,
sixty year old movie this point. They
762
00:52:05.210 --> 00:52:07.050
killed her at the end because bond
can't be married right, and so I
763
00:52:07.090 --> 00:52:09.329
was like, okay then, what
the hell we doing this whole time?
764
00:52:09.570 --> 00:52:13.329
But the whole movie was just garbage. And there's like skiing down a slope.
765
00:52:13.409 --> 00:52:15.760
Some guy goes into a snowblower and
you see like the spray, it's
766
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:20.079
or it it's just like Orange Orange, and you're like that's not the color
767
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.719
of blood, but it's got to
be mixed with the snow. To be
768
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.920
fair, that was also before the
PG thirteen rating. True, Tould like
769
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.429
twenty years. That went back when
like airplane PG and like here some titties
770
00:52:30.469 --> 00:52:35.909
like I beg your pardon, airplane. Yes, I see titties every day.
771
00:52:36.230 --> 00:52:45.420
Not My problem. I do too. anyways. I guess hold on
772
00:52:45.500 --> 00:52:52.179
while I pull her hank out.
I don't remember what it's like right.
773
00:52:52.260 --> 00:52:57.139
Tuckerndal or is yeah, sorry,
it was. So I first watched in
774
00:52:57.219 --> 00:53:00.369
college and Tuckerndale was one of those
movies where I was like my friends were
775
00:53:00.409 --> 00:53:02.050
like hey, what's watch this movie
and then they explained it to me.
776
00:53:02.570 --> 00:53:07.050
I was like that sounds like the
terrible movie of sure, I'll watch it,
777
00:53:07.289 --> 00:53:08.610
and we watched. was like that
was amazing. Was Watch it again.
778
00:53:09.969 --> 00:53:13.360
Handful of movies and maybe I don't
know if it was just my friends
779
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.880
are bad at explaining movie plots,
but there are a couple of movies we're
780
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:19.320
I've had friends be like hey,
we need to watch this movie and then
781
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.480
explain the plot to me. Feel
like it's so good. I mean like
782
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:24.119
that sounds like a movie I won't
enjoy. Why would I do that?
783
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:27.630
Right, but sure, I'll do
it because I'm your friend. And then
784
00:53:27.710 --> 00:53:30.349
men was like, okay, that
was worth watching. Fucker Dale was one
785
00:53:30.349 --> 00:53:32.909
of that sex trifles, one of
that I've talked about that one. It's
786
00:53:32.949 --> 00:53:37.630
like it's a trashy movie. I
don't want to get to sidetrack. It's
787
00:53:37.630 --> 00:53:40.900
a trashy movie but I thought it
was hysterical, especially when they're going through
788
00:53:40.900 --> 00:53:46.780
Amish country. Sarah's from Amish.
Good, Yep, Yep, conus a
789
00:53:46.860 --> 00:53:50.500
horse. I don't think I missed
what you thinking me. All right.
790
00:53:50.539 --> 00:53:52.260
So any final thoughts on Tucker do
versus evil other than go see it.
791
00:53:52.340 --> 00:53:59.449
It's really good. You know,
I at being the Native Hill building in
792
00:53:59.570 --> 00:54:05.369
the room. I was really impressed
with tyler lebane's accent as Dale. He
793
00:54:05.489 --> 00:54:12.079
sounds like my cousins. Okay,
to be fair, they have like Nadian
794
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.360
hillbillies. The accents totally different but
they have this similar yeah, lumberjackie,
795
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:19.480
outdoorsy lifestyle. Yeah, I was
trying to figure out if I had seen
796
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.320
him in anything else and I think
the only other film of his I've seen
797
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.630
is he was in rise on the
plan of the apes, but he's also
798
00:54:24.670 --> 00:54:29.110
the no, no, the other
thing I'd seen him and he he was
799
00:54:29.190 --> 00:54:32.590
in a couple of episodes of the
x files and season three he played stoner
800
00:54:34.869 --> 00:54:39.139
and I remembered I remembered his character
and then I remember, Oh this is
801
00:54:39.179 --> 00:54:42.780
why I know him, because when
they did the revival in two thousand and
802
00:54:42.780 --> 00:54:45.619
sixteen, they brought him back to
be stir owner. Okay, serious,
803
00:54:45.980 --> 00:54:51.699
oh my gosh, it's the same
guy. Really funny. anywaysome. So
804
00:54:51.940 --> 00:54:54.849
props, props to you, Mr
Liban, on your redneck accent. It's
805
00:54:54.889 --> 00:55:00.610
very good, very often. All
right, Halloween, two thousand and eighteen.
806
00:55:00.690 --> 00:55:04.929
D Dude, Dude. Again.
Didn't have time to finish off.
807
00:55:05.010 --> 00:55:07.679
My things are okay, though.
Only two thousand and eighteen. I've so
808
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.199
many thoughts about this movie. I
enjoyed, I thought was good and I
809
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.639
thought it was a really good I
like a lot of the ways they had
810
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:19.800
mirroring of the original Halloween with Lorie
strode, where Michael Myers was absolutely I
811
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.469
thought was really cool. So like
the shot where ministrode, whose name I
812
00:55:22.510 --> 00:55:30.710
cannot remember, Ali Ali Helly Ellison, out the the youngest one. She's
813
00:55:30.750 --> 00:55:34.429
sitting in school and she looks at
the window and sees Lari standing there.
814
00:55:34.469 --> 00:55:37.460
Oh yes, just like when Lorie
looked out the window saw Michael Standing there
815
00:55:37.699 --> 00:55:39.900
and I was like, Oh,
they're doing that. Okay, that's pretty
816
00:55:39.900 --> 00:55:44.860
cool. The intro where they're like
showing old man Michael from the back and
817
00:55:44.940 --> 00:55:46.460
do that whole thing. That to
me was like, I don't know that
818
00:55:46.539 --> 00:55:51.650
that was I don't know that I
needed that. I mean I thought it
819
00:55:51.730 --> 00:55:54.570
was kind of an interesting way to
set up the film, like, you
820
00:55:54.650 --> 00:56:00.210
know, telling you how he got
out and fun fact that was actually Nick
821
00:56:00.289 --> 00:56:06.360
Castle who was the original Michael Myers. So they got him forty years later
822
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.599
to be Michael Myers. I can
at least in that scene. The the
823
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:13.760
only problem I had, the one
of the biggest problems I have with that,
824
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:16.480
is it kind of demistifies him a
little bit. Does you see his
825
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.750
face? No, but you see
his like old band beard and but he
826
00:56:20.909 --> 00:56:22.510
was like this you know, clossal
druggernaut where it's like is he human?
827
00:56:22.510 --> 00:56:25.190
And then of course some of the
Michael Myers was like no, he's not,
828
00:56:25.269 --> 00:56:29.590
he's like even possessed something weird.
It got weird, even though they
829
00:56:29.630 --> 00:56:31.940
scratch that. But yeah, that
that that intro to me was a little
830
00:56:32.099 --> 00:56:35.260
I was wasn't sure what they were
doing. And then when they introduced the
831
00:56:35.260 --> 00:56:37.579
strode family, they should you show
Lauri being super paranoid. I'd super prepared
832
00:56:37.619 --> 00:56:40.780
all this. I thought was really
good, her trying to connect with her
833
00:56:40.780 --> 00:56:44.500
granddad, her grand ever being a
little more understanding than her, her mom.
834
00:56:45.099 --> 00:56:49.289
I quite enjoyed, although write in
the intro with they're introducing that family
835
00:56:49.730 --> 00:56:54.250
like glorious daughter's family. I can't
remember. Karen Paren and by Judy greer.
836
00:56:54.289 --> 00:56:58.170
Yeah, it's awesome. Alison is
the daughter. Yeah. So,
837
00:56:58.369 --> 00:57:01.079
so they're internet like making stuff in
that just goes. Oh, I got
838
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:04.480
peanut butter on my Dick. I'm
not. No, he says I got
839
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:06.639
peanut butter on my penis. I'm
like, did you have your Dick out
840
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:08.159
while you're making a sandwich in the
live in the kids with your family,
841
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:10.719
like, what is wrong with you? Do like they were just making a
842
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:14.360
joke, but then if you think
about the joke they made, it has
843
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.150
some really nice I'm like, yeah, so I have on my nose.
844
00:57:16.190 --> 00:57:20.550
Did he have his dick out while
making a Samuel? Okay, this I
845
00:57:20.710 --> 00:57:25.269
mentioned. This really bothered me so
pointless. But that first scene where Ali's
846
00:57:25.349 --> 00:57:30.659
walking with her friends, M her
middle friend, the babysitter one has a
847
00:57:30.980 --> 00:57:35.780
halfful thing of Boba tea and she
literally never drinks it. She'll raise it
848
00:57:35.860 --> 00:57:37.820
to her mouth and then put it
down. And she raised her mouth and
849
00:57:37.860 --> 00:57:40.659
then put it down as gross.
Now you're wrong I do not. I
850
00:57:40.739 --> 00:57:45.610
do not like the texture of the
weird stuff in the bottom. Thank it
851
00:57:45.929 --> 00:57:52.210
different. I'm a I'm just drink
coffee, get jelly or bursting. No,
852
00:57:52.610 --> 00:57:53.929
no, if know we're all of
that. No, none of that
853
00:57:54.010 --> 00:57:59.679
should be in tea. But yes, I did not notice that at all.
854
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:01.880
And I've seen this movie like three
just I saw it. Well,
855
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:04.480
because I saw it, I was
like, Oh, should he bob with
856
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:06.440
tea? And then I was just
what? For some reason, I I
857
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.159
just gravit hit to watching the Bobadie
and she literally like pulls up her mouth,
858
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:12.599
puts her mouth on the straw like
she's going to take a sip and
859
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:14.909
then puts it back down. And
then every time she liked picked it up
860
00:58:14.909 --> 00:58:15.750
and then it will cut and then
to put it by it. So look
861
00:58:15.829 --> 00:58:20.989
like she's never takes a single SIP. As I like, craft services clearly
862
00:58:21.070 --> 00:58:22.429
messed up. They didn't give it. Like why would you give her Boba
863
00:58:22.469 --> 00:58:25.710
te? She's not guy. Never, nothing ever goes up the straw at
864
00:58:25.750 --> 00:58:29.059
that was just a weird thing that
I that I saw, that nobody else
865
00:58:29.099 --> 00:58:32.340
noticed. It was stupid. Just
also really like Bobati. I do idea.
866
00:58:36.059 --> 00:58:39.659
So I didn't realize it's I'm looking
at Internet movie database because that's a
867
00:58:39.780 --> 00:58:46.449
thing I do. The the dad
with the weird you know, butter he
868
00:58:46.650 --> 00:58:51.130
is played. He is played by
right, he's played by Toby Huss.
869
00:58:51.369 --> 00:58:53.050
I don't know if either of you
ever watched the adventures of Pete and Pete.
870
00:58:53.210 --> 00:58:57.599
That no day. Thank. Oh, okay, so that is a
871
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.719
nickelodeon classic. You should watch it. He is Arti, the strongest man
872
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:05.039
in the world. Oh wait,
oh, now you know what I'm talking
873
00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:09.110
about. How he's also text on
glow. If you all have ever watched
874
00:59:09.190 --> 00:59:13.269
cloth? Nope, no, he
shows up in the most recent season.
875
00:59:13.510 --> 00:59:15.750
Yeah, anyway, sorry, random
aside, random aside, but yeah,
876
00:59:16.030 --> 00:59:21.869
he is art the strongest man.
Halloween also took quite a while to get
877
00:59:21.909 --> 00:59:24.539
going. So, but, but
I thought it was my original Halloween.
878
00:59:24.539 --> 00:59:27.940
Kind of did. Oh, yeah, I know, the pace of I
879
00:59:27.980 --> 00:59:30.539
thought the pacing was yeah, I
thought the pace was fine. I didn't
880
00:59:30.539 --> 00:59:32.059
have a problem. I didn't have
a because they they took time to establish
881
00:59:32.099 --> 00:59:36.900
the family in the characters, right, and then Laur's paranoia, uh,
882
00:59:37.380 --> 00:59:40.650
and then Michael escapes and then it's
kind of when is it when he's going
883
00:59:40.730 --> 00:59:45.809
to basically hit that hit that apex. I think probably the most harrowing scene
884
00:59:45.889 --> 00:59:49.050
is when Michael is in the Halloween
Party just like walking house to house murdering
885
00:59:49.130 --> 00:59:54.159
people. Right, I'm although he
definitely does some teleporting as he walks,
886
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:58.119
like the speed at which so there's
the one where it pans over. I
887
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:01.440
thought it was really good cinematography because
if he used a lot of still shots,
888
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:06.039
like non moving shots, static shots
and where you just see people move
889
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:07.150
around. So there was the one
where it pans over to the window in
890
01:00:07.190 --> 01:00:10.630
the house and you see Michael Walk
past the window on the side right and
891
01:00:10.710 --> 01:00:14.510
then walk in and murder the person, although like to get back and around
892
01:00:14.550 --> 01:00:16.550
and and but I thought was really
good shot, even if it made Michael
893
01:00:16.710 --> 01:00:22.300
like lightning speed. So well,
in they're employing these same camera techniques.
894
01:00:22.340 --> 01:00:24.579
Yeah, they used to Halloween.
You you have the the over the shoulder,
895
01:00:24.699 --> 01:00:29.460
so you're yeah, my guess,
perspective. So in the this the
896
01:00:29.579 --> 01:00:32.579
scene that you're referencing. While you
know, he's walking around, while everybody's
897
01:00:32.579 --> 01:00:37.969
trick or treating, the trick or
treaters are wearing silver shamrock halloween mess,
898
01:00:37.010 --> 01:00:39.650
which is from Halloween three season,
the which you mean season over, the
899
01:00:39.650 --> 01:00:45.650
VIVIC season? No, season the
witch, which is universally panned. Also,
900
01:00:45.769 --> 01:00:49.889
I have and I have mytal Mosh
just this. So okay, I
901
01:00:49.969 --> 01:00:52.880
know what. I know what.
I have this. So when Michael Escapes,
902
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.119
right, the kid in his dad
pull up and Michael totally kills that
903
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:58.960
kid. Yep. So I have
my Dan. They ice that kid.
904
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:01.519
Yep. I do appreciate that.
The cops take it seriously, right,
905
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:05.670
although the one cop is like,
we're not gonna like, we're not gonna
906
01:01:05.670 --> 01:01:08.269
be able to do anything. Right, but coach, coach from Rember,
907
01:01:08.269 --> 01:01:12.150
the titans. HMM, he take
out, which I love that actor.
908
01:01:12.630 --> 01:01:15.590
He takes it seriously. When he
kills the reporters, which like halfway through
909
01:01:15.590 --> 01:01:19.780
the film, when Michael Kills the
reporters, the podcasters. Yeah, Oh,
910
01:01:19.980 --> 01:01:22.699
yeah, well, that was that
was fairly fairly early. But that
911
01:01:22.900 --> 01:01:27.300
that's that's that's a kill scene from
Halloween four or five. Yeah, so
912
01:01:27.579 --> 01:01:31.219
so it's like halfway through the whole
too. Thing was weird. Yeah,
913
01:01:31.739 --> 01:01:36.210
but the the the kill in the
batter, Oh, yeah, that sends.
914
01:01:36.369 --> 01:01:38.289
That's from four or five. That
scene is really intense. I thought
915
01:01:38.329 --> 01:01:42.050
that it was a pretty pretty good
scene. But that the whole dropping.
916
01:01:42.090 --> 01:01:45.769
The two things were reporters. Yeah, yeah, that's a little bit scary.
917
01:01:45.849 --> 01:01:49.159
And then what? Okay, so
the kind of turning point was when
918
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:54.639
coach sees who's again don't remember his
name, police, police guy from remember
919
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:59.639
the titans, sees Michael and is
like thing popped and just like runs his
920
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:01.750
ass down. HMM, and it
gets out to double tap him, and
921
01:02:01.750 --> 01:02:06.469
the doctor, who has a pen
knife for some reason, right kills him.
922
01:02:06.510 --> 01:02:09.389
I thought that they were going to
actually kill Michael and then have this
923
01:02:09.510 --> 01:02:12.949
guy take over as Michael. That
would have been a really interesting you know,
924
01:02:12.989 --> 01:02:15.070
I had that same thought when I
saw it in the theater. Yeah,
925
01:02:15.110 --> 01:02:16.619
that would have been a really interesting
thing. That happens and they just
926
01:02:16.699 --> 01:02:21.579
I think I understand why, because
then then it wouldn't really make sense from
927
01:02:21.579 --> 01:02:22.860
hut down Moore. I mean they
could probably explain it. Yeah, because
928
01:02:22.860 --> 01:02:24.980
he puts on the mask right,
but it was a little weird that they
929
01:02:25.019 --> 01:02:28.900
were just like and he killed the
doctor. Okay, that this is literally
930
01:02:28.940 --> 01:02:30.610
just a get Michael Myers out of
jail free card, right and then.
931
01:02:30.730 --> 01:02:35.329
And then, okay, so here's
so again I realized we're dealing with my
932
01:02:35.530 --> 01:02:37.849
like okay, so this is the
thing where Michael was the most magical.
933
01:02:37.250 --> 01:02:42.289
Okay, they finally get to the
house, right, and all that poor
934
01:02:42.449 --> 01:02:45.320
poor guy who was just trying to
afford doofy guy who's just trying to get
935
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:49.159
some got he got did dirt even
deserved die like that. The Chubby Guy,
936
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:53.079
Oh yeah, yeah, what's his
I'm looking after she dumped douchebag.
937
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:57.599
Yeah, like I wasn't usual.
Thing the other way. It wasn't that
938
01:02:57.760 --> 01:03:00.909
much better. But Oscar Oscar,
that's yeah, Oscar Oscar. Oscar's death
939
01:03:01.030 --> 01:03:06.030
was pretty old. Yikes. Okay, kills are pretty pretty intense. HMM.
940
01:03:06.190 --> 01:03:09.349
All of them were. And again, so many of them were mirrors
941
01:03:09.510 --> 01:03:14.380
of yeah, kills and other helloween
films. Yeah, I wrote paper on
942
01:03:14.460 --> 01:03:20.500
that. Man comes when he dooche's
doctor's head. That was that was pretty
943
01:03:20.500 --> 01:03:23.219
dy gross. Yeah, but,
but, but they all get to the
944
01:03:23.260 --> 01:03:29.090
strode house, the strobe lockdown mansion, HMM, and the dad goes outside,
945
01:03:29.250 --> 01:03:32.730
peanut butter penis goes outside to seize
the COP car pull up, cocker
946
01:03:32.769 --> 01:03:36.889
pulls up, which is Michael was
driving. It opens the door and there's
947
01:03:36.889 --> 01:03:40.050
a dead cop and then the dead, like a skin dead COP's face with
948
01:03:40.130 --> 01:03:43.800
a flashlight in it. When did
he have time to set that up?
949
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:46.079
Because he pulled up in the dad
is walking towards the car, which was
950
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:49.440
Michael, set the body up,
set the flashlight thing up, got out
951
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:51.840
of the other car and then walked
away the six of these seven foot tall
952
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.599
bit he was supposed to be this
colossus and he sometime gets behind it like
953
01:03:55.429 --> 01:04:00.190
a little much. Have any notes? Arts and crafts? Michael clearly like
954
01:04:00.429 --> 01:04:04.349
supernatural on the other films as well. So yeah, I think have fine.
955
01:04:04.349 --> 01:04:06.590
I think. Oh yeah, I
think for storytelling purposes it's fine,
956
01:04:06.909 --> 01:04:10.780
although they kind of humanize him a
little bit in this one, which it
957
01:04:10.820 --> 01:04:14.579
was weird guy. I think that
you just like left the mystery. Yeah,
958
01:04:15.019 --> 01:04:16.659
not a huge complaint. Not a
huge complaint, but that, but
959
01:04:16.739 --> 01:04:20.900
that one in particular was like that's
a little too much because, like he's
960
01:04:20.980 --> 01:04:24.369
being super arts because, like,
what was the purpose of that? He's
961
01:04:24.369 --> 01:04:28.210
just gonna kill this guy, like
look what I'm Ay. So it's a
962
01:04:28.250 --> 01:04:31.050
little weaker. There are so much
I really, really love about this film.
963
01:04:31.170 --> 01:04:36.849
Just I love the visual homage to
every other Halloween film while simultaneously ignoring
964
01:04:36.889 --> 01:04:42.280
all of their content. I think
that's Hilarious and again I think candy the
965
01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:44.519
the new candy man, is going
to do a similar thing, making this
966
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:47.360
a spiritual sequel the original, and
that that's what I think this film is.
967
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:51.760
Also, this is the first Halloween
film that John Carpenter has been involved
968
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:58.110
with since Halloween to HMM. He
and his son and another guy actually did
969
01:04:58.150 --> 01:05:01.030
all the music yes film, which
is incredible. I don't I don't score.
970
01:05:01.030 --> 01:05:05.230
It was unlike candy man. I
don't think it popped out at me
971
01:05:05.429 --> 01:05:10.260
much because it wasn't quite it wasn't
bombasting. was more background for the most
972
01:05:10.300 --> 01:05:14.780
part. There was one part was
like since with the not the rave part.
973
01:05:15.059 --> 01:05:17.820
Know the I think what you're referring
to is it's actually called help.
974
01:05:17.940 --> 01:05:21.130
This name of the song is Halloween
Triumphant, and it's you're referring to the
975
01:05:21.289 --> 01:05:24.809
the song is played over the end
credits. I don't know. I don't
976
01:05:24.809 --> 01:05:26.849
know. The music did. The
music did not stick in my head the
977
01:05:26.889 --> 01:05:30.130
way candy man's did. Halloween is
my favorite horror movie score, and I
978
01:05:30.210 --> 01:05:33.090
think it's because it's so interesting.
I've heard thought I'm a drummer. I'm
979
01:05:33.130 --> 01:05:38.199
a sucker for anything with like a
like a pulsing kick drum beat like this
980
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:41.760
has. Also, it's so interesting
because this is a this is scores in
981
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:47.480
five four time, which is unusual. The what I really liked about here's
982
01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:49.630
a here's a thing like you,
that you have the you know, you
983
01:05:49.710 --> 01:05:55.789
have the score. Then the opening
credits, it's it's the opening credits for
984
01:05:55.869 --> 01:06:00.389
Halloween in reverse, because the PUMPKIN
is coming back to life. It's it's
985
01:06:01.070 --> 01:06:05.699
it. For me, that was
that just opening shot of the jackalanern is.
986
01:06:06.059 --> 01:06:10.579
It is a visual signal of this
is what this movie is going to
987
01:06:10.619 --> 01:06:13.500
do. It's going to take the
other one, the original film, and
988
01:06:13.659 --> 01:06:17.380
invert and that that is what yes, entire film is is is an inversion
989
01:06:17.420 --> 01:06:20.369
of that, while also still paying
homage to the rest of the hollow and
990
01:06:20.409 --> 01:06:23.809
can yeah, so, so,
like right at the end when Michael finally
991
01:06:23.849 --> 01:06:29.130
gets to the House and starts fighting
with Lori, and it is really an
992
01:06:29.210 --> 01:06:33.159
inversion of almost one to one.
Oh yeah, of the original Halloween with
993
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:36.079
with the roles reversed, right.
So, like she falls out of the
994
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:41.880
window and now we'll say so first
thing when they know Michael's there's something that
995
01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:44.000
turned on the lights. I feel
like, as soon as you got that,
996
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:45.719
you should turn the lights on.
But but, okay, also,
997
01:06:46.389 --> 01:06:50.349
this, this bothered me, even
though it looked Badass. Lori picked a
998
01:06:50.389 --> 01:06:55.630
rifle with an incredibly long barrel to
try to sweep the house. It's so
999
01:06:55.869 --> 01:06:59.349
bad because if someone's sitting right behind
the door frame, your gun barrel poks
1000
01:06:59.349 --> 01:07:00.940
and first they can just grab your
gun barrel and disarmed. So it was
1001
01:07:00.980 --> 01:07:04.420
like a really bad especially considering how
many weapons she hadn't how prepared she was
1002
01:07:04.460 --> 01:07:09.019
for this. It was like a
an actually bad decision to pick that gun.
1003
01:07:09.099 --> 01:07:11.539
And I realized they picked it for
the visual. Yeah, but I'm
1004
01:07:11.579 --> 01:07:14.619
like, Lori would have picked like
a short barreled shotgun, like a sawed
1005
01:07:14.659 --> 01:07:17.650
off something that you can flip around
corners really fast, so that that someone
1006
01:07:17.690 --> 01:07:20.289
who has never shot a gun.
I did not think that. Yeah,
1007
01:07:20.409 --> 01:07:23.889
but of course, like in my
head, as I'm thinking of the visual,
1008
01:07:24.050 --> 01:07:28.690
like her holding Oh yeah, you're
good, is like yeah, that's
1009
01:07:28.769 --> 01:07:31.559
realistic. Probably what should have happened, like her holding the shotgun is like
1010
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:35.480
yeah, yeah, so that was
really, really cool. But by absolute
1011
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:49.230
favorite moments Gotcha Bang. Yeah,
that was that was a I was like,
1012
01:07:49.389 --> 01:07:54.429
well, are they gonna die and
then, and then that was a
1013
01:07:54.510 --> 01:07:56.630
really good moment. I answered that
a lot. Yeah, and you know
1014
01:07:56.710 --> 01:08:01.900
the whole line where the dinner scene
where Laur says, well, if my
1015
01:08:02.019 --> 01:08:06.820
daughter hates me, but I have
prepared her for the realities and the evils
1016
01:08:06.860 --> 01:08:11.739
of this world, then I can
live with that. And and and and
1017
01:08:12.340 --> 01:08:16.609
while, yes, I understand why
Karen has these hang ups with her mother,
1018
01:08:17.649 --> 01:08:23.770
I'm blaming this old thing on you. It was it's that same thing
1019
01:08:24.130 --> 01:08:27.399
that trained her and equipped her for
that moment. Right. And you know
1020
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.239
they're doing two more of these movies, right, and that, and that's
1021
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:32.920
the thing, right, because she
grabs her gun off was a off the
1022
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:35.640
rack. Yeah, so that I
thought that was that was really cool,
1023
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:41.869
just to have these these great you
know, it's kind of a toss up
1024
01:08:41.949 --> 01:08:44.550
in my in my mind, and
I think it's only it's only toss up
1025
01:08:44.550 --> 01:08:49.029
because of how Halloween has treated Hannon. The Halloween Franchises Treat Canon as if
1026
01:08:49.789 --> 01:08:57.859
she's yourn adventure, pretty much like
cannon, but like that cass up.
1027
01:08:58.420 --> 01:09:00.819
Lookin, Miss what you thinking?
Mess, exactly like the toss up for
1028
01:09:00.899 --> 01:09:06.739
the ultimate final girl and any horror
franchises either between Laurie strode or Sydney in
1029
01:09:08.300 --> 01:09:12.729
about Ripley? Well, I think
I tend to think of alien is more
1030
01:09:13.210 --> 01:09:16.010
SCI FI and Siecie with horror elements. Yeah, yeah, so, but
1031
01:09:16.369 --> 01:09:19.649
but, yeah, it's still I
think you can categories as categorize that as
1032
01:09:19.649 --> 01:09:21.890
a horror movie. Maybe not so
much any of the other ones, except
1033
01:09:23.010 --> 01:09:27.359
resurrection. Yeah, but anyway,
like toss up between Marie and Sidney for
1034
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.760
like ultimate final girl. And now
like at the end of this film we've
1035
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:32.880
got three ultimate final girls and I'm
like, yes, I am here for
1036
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:36.199
this, this is awesome. Yeah, I liked being able to see the
1037
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:41.430
dynamic of the family right and just
even like so I've only seen the original
1038
01:09:41.670 --> 01:09:45.510
Halloween and then the twenty seen,
Oh cool one. So I have not
1039
01:09:45.710 --> 01:09:47.430
seen like all the ones in between. I have not either, but I
1040
01:09:47.510 --> 01:09:51.789
also appreciated that that like to watch
this one, I did not need to
1041
01:09:51.859 --> 01:09:55.939
see right all of the red ones. Granted, I didn't get all of
1042
01:09:56.100 --> 01:10:00.460
the symbolism and things like that,
which homage is that they do, which
1043
01:10:00.460 --> 01:10:03.619
I think at some level is actually
like a really good makes makes it a
1044
01:10:03.739 --> 01:10:08.729
better movie that you we can appreciate
it. Having just watched the original and
1045
01:10:08.890 --> 01:10:11.449
this one. Ask. This one's
like a seat TREX Equel to the original.
1046
01:10:11.489 --> 01:10:14.770
Yeah, but someone who's invested in
the Halloween franchise can appreciate all the
1047
01:10:14.770 --> 01:10:16.770
little bits. and well, that's
how I felt about detective Pikachu the movie.
1048
01:10:16.810 --> 01:10:19.890
Oh yeah, because like you can
go into that knowing nothing about Pokemon
1049
01:10:19.970 --> 01:10:24.359
and just enjoy the movie or,
you know, knowing like the bass level
1050
01:10:24.399 --> 01:10:26.520
of what a Pokemon is, because
it assumes you know that, right.
1051
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:29.920
Yeah, or you can go in
being a pokemon Fan. Mean, like
1052
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:32.319
there's that and that and that.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I feel
1053
01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:36.149
like they did it really I feel
like that's always like the line of handering
1054
01:10:36.229 --> 01:10:41.390
two fans in a way that won't
doesn't interfere with rest the movie, right.
1055
01:10:41.470 --> 01:10:45.829
And I think another thing that does
that really well is, I actually
1056
01:10:45.869 --> 01:10:48.390
talked about this in my Halloween presentation. There are two film and Television series
1057
01:10:48.430 --> 01:10:53.699
that I think really do this well. One is stranger things. Stronger Thong.
1058
01:10:54.939 --> 01:10:58.380
Nope, that is the correct way
to say it. Stronger Thong.
1059
01:10:58.500 --> 01:11:02.779
That is incorrect. Please try again, but actually don't give you send a
1060
01:11:02.859 --> 01:11:09.250
word. But anyway, like so, like when I watch stranger things and
1061
01:11:09.289 --> 01:11:11.970
then when Ryan, my husband,
watch stranger things. He and I had
1062
01:11:12.010 --> 01:11:16.449
two completely different experiences because, while
he is familiar with some of the the
1063
01:11:16.569 --> 01:11:19.760
things stranger things draws from, those
are a lot more fresh in my mind
1064
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:25.399
than they are his, and I
nerdered out on a completely different level than
1065
01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:28.800
he did. And yet we both
still enjoyed it. And I can watch
1066
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:31.439
stranger things my mentors daughter, who
has no clue about and thing from the
1067
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:35.109
s because she's like sixteen. Yeah, other than what she's seen on stranger
1068
01:11:35.189 --> 01:11:40.430
things and like a handful of s
films. But she also enjoyed it like
1069
01:11:40.630 --> 01:11:44.149
so I think that's the mark of
just good storytelling. Yeah, and so.
1070
01:11:44.630 --> 01:11:46.180
But and hereditary, I think,
is the other one that does that
1071
01:11:46.300 --> 01:11:50.939
really, really well, because it
draws from all these different horror films while,
1072
01:11:50.979 --> 01:11:56.100
say, simultaneously telling its own story. Have you seen the the knockoff
1073
01:11:56.100 --> 01:12:00.060
about the barbershop heredit? Terry?
No, I can't say so. I'm
1074
01:12:00.180 --> 01:12:06.130
civilized. Yeah. Yeah, final
thoughts on Halloween, and that was one
1075
01:12:06.170 --> 01:12:09.770
where I thought it was really good. I don't know that I go back
1076
01:12:09.810 --> 01:12:12.409
and Rewatch it, but I you
know, I could recommend it. I
1077
01:12:12.449 --> 01:12:15.369
could recommend watching it. Yeah,
I feel like I want to go back
1078
01:12:15.489 --> 01:12:18.199
and watch it. I feel like
it would be interesting to watch the original
1079
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:23.279
like Halloween, and then right afterwards
watch, yeah, yeah, to have
1080
01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:26.119
them both fresh. Yeah. Well, we watched Greg and I watched the
1081
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:30.109
original Halloween for the last four podcast
we did, so it was pretty fresh
1082
01:12:30.189 --> 01:12:33.270
for me. Okay, yeah,
so I halloween is my favorite horror movies,
1083
01:12:33.550 --> 01:12:38.069
so Oh ge or this one,
Oh gee. But this is the
1084
01:12:38.189 --> 01:12:41.909
only, only one of the Halloween
seagulls, and while I still enjoy all
1085
01:12:41.949 --> 01:12:44.859
of them on different levels, this
is the only one that I love as
1086
01:12:44.939 --> 01:12:48.140
much as the original, and I
think it's just because of how the these
1087
01:12:48.260 --> 01:12:53.180
directors are. They're writing a love
letter to John Carpenter, hmm, and
1088
01:12:53.659 --> 01:12:56.220
the fact that they get, actually
got John Carpenter to come back and do
1089
01:12:56.979 --> 01:13:00.489
anything, do anything with another Halloween
film is impressive to me. So that
1090
01:13:00.689 --> 01:13:04.770
tells me that he is also happy
with what they're doing. So I'm really
1091
01:13:04.810 --> 01:13:08.770
excited to see Halloween kills, which
is the next one is supposed to be
1092
01:13:08.810 --> 01:13:12.409
out, and I think so everything's
twenty and twenty one now. Yeah,
1093
01:13:12.609 --> 01:13:15.239
just about. So I'm really excited
to see what they do with these other
1094
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:23.720
two films. Also because coronavirus.
was like yeah, basically, but yeah,
1095
01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:26.640
I love, Love, love,
Jamie Lee Curtis. I've seen her
1096
01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:29.470
in a lot of different things aside. Thank you, Friday, Whoo hey
1097
01:13:29.550 --> 01:13:31.869
movie. I've ever seen freaking Friday. It's good. I'm thinking, but
1098
01:13:32.630 --> 01:13:38.069
the first, but it's good.
It's back before Lindsay Lohan went in saying
1099
01:13:38.149 --> 01:13:44.699
yeah, like freaky Friday and parent
trap. I've mostly seen her in Christians
1100
01:13:44.699 --> 01:13:48.899
of the cranks. There was another
one I saw her in that I had
1101
01:13:48.979 --> 01:13:54.220
completely different context for her outside the
horror genre. And then so when I
1102
01:13:54.260 --> 01:13:57.289
finally went and watched Halloween, I
was like, Oh wow, like I've
1103
01:13:57.329 --> 01:13:59.850
never seen her as a young woman
before. Is like she's really beautiful,
1104
01:13:59.890 --> 01:14:03.970
like and then watching this I'm like
she kicks so much, but I just
1105
01:14:04.170 --> 01:14:08.050
love it. It's so great,
so great. Yeah, really, I
1106
01:14:08.529 --> 01:14:15.199
totally costplayed Loris drode while doing giving
my holloway presentation at this Gygoys, like
1107
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:18.840
how it showed like the effect of
the drama. Yeah, that was really
1108
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:21.920
a list. Yeah, really,
I thought that was really good. Yeah,
1109
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:25.270
because it's just like, I don't
know, instead of them just like
1110
01:14:25.550 --> 01:14:29.310
going often her living her like normal
life, like yeah, she was able
1111
01:14:29.310 --> 01:14:32.270
to have a family and stuff,
but like this affected every ass man,
1112
01:14:32.989 --> 01:14:38.470
and understandably so. Right, yeah, like like I don't feel like it
1113
01:14:38.659 --> 01:14:41.180
was unrealistic for her. Right,
yeah, in that way at all,
1114
01:14:41.220 --> 01:14:45.619
even with like years of therapy.
Hmmm. Last movie we watched. All
1115
01:14:45.619 --> 01:14:48.100
right, I forgot to watch the
which. I don't know why. It's
1116
01:14:48.100 --> 01:14:53.770
okay, we can will visit that
one another time. But because that's that's
1117
01:14:53.810 --> 01:14:57.609
a really great song. I'll have
to do candy man to Leper Con Seven,
1118
01:14:59.409 --> 01:15:02.369
to which and then like light house. Oh yeah, because that's the
1119
01:15:02.409 --> 01:15:10.479
same directors record. HMM, live
house. It did not look here.
1120
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:12.600
It's a really great film. That's
probably going to be one I'm only going
1121
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:15.439
to want to watch once. Yeah, look like one of those. I
1122
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:18.079
watch it again, like for the
podcast and everything. I really liked it.
1123
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:21.670
I didn't really. I saw that
in theaters. Okay, HMM,
1124
01:15:21.909 --> 01:15:26.710
anyway, anywhere, anyway, anyway. Oh Man, I guess we got
1125
01:15:26.789 --> 01:15:29.109
to wrap up. All right,
US man, that was a good movie.
1126
01:15:29.109 --> 01:15:32.310
US, I love, Love,
love Jordan people. Yeah, so,
1127
01:15:32.510 --> 01:15:35.659
so I noticing one of the themes
of these horror movies is that the
1128
01:15:35.859 --> 01:15:42.140
the ones I've enjoyed have done a
really good job of building characters, HMM,
1129
01:15:42.460 --> 01:15:46.460
and not really hit the gun on
crazy murder until about halfway through.
1130
01:15:47.020 --> 01:15:49.890
Then I like I'm now, I'm
investing these characters and then it starts ratcheting
1131
01:15:49.930 --> 01:15:55.970
up until like the it's like one
Third World Building and character development, then
1132
01:15:56.050 --> 01:16:00.609
one third ratcheting tensions and one third
insane finale. Yeah, the acting was
1133
01:16:00.729 --> 01:16:03.050
probably the best all. I can't
even his acting was really good too,
1134
01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:06.640
and so holl long was good.
But but I think the acting was just
1135
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:12.399
from everyone was and everyone's playing two
characters right. and Oh yeah, by
1136
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:15.520
the way, major spoilers for us. If you haven't seen it, you
1137
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:20.350
don't want it spoiled, stop listening
right now. The next next time.
1138
01:16:20.710 --> 01:16:25.949
So so I just have like here
my notes. Nice character building, good
1139
01:16:25.989 --> 01:16:29.350
action, tensions rising, and this
is like, you know, thirty minutes
1140
01:16:29.430 --> 01:16:32.460
in. And then that first scene, where the where the there the the,
1141
01:16:33.220 --> 01:16:41.460
that first scene where the tethered family
comes in, if that's just that's
1142
01:16:41.699 --> 01:16:45.899
the one clip I managed to get
was when the happening. That's happening and
1143
01:16:45.979 --> 01:16:49.010
they come by and pick up the
out door key and and it is like
1144
01:16:49.050 --> 01:16:54.569
they found that they found hidden key
and the yeah, as like hidden key,
1145
01:16:55.850 --> 01:17:01.680
a watch white people. Yeah,
it's a key, but when they
1146
01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:04.960
can she sits down and starts talking. My note is just, Holy Shits,
1147
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:12.520
sleeping and young. Yeah, so
one. I I saw US three
1148
01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:16.310
times because I love it so much. But I was so, so,
1149
01:17:16.750 --> 01:17:21.470
so, so angry this year when
they released Oscar nominations and Loupet was nowhere
1150
01:17:21.550 --> 01:17:27.310
on that list. Okay, yeah, that's like if you academy, Academy,
1151
01:17:27.310 --> 01:17:30.140
stupid, because they don't recognize legitimately
on the amazing performance. Yes,
1152
01:17:30.220 --> 01:17:33.539
yes, I mean, and again
this is this is the sci Fi,
1153
01:17:33.979 --> 01:17:38.500
fantasy horror snub. Gosh, Lupeza. Um, I thought she, I
1154
01:17:38.579 --> 01:17:42.220
mean obviously she was amazing, but
I was really, really impressed with Evan
1155
01:17:42.260 --> 01:17:46.689
Alex, who played the Sun Jake. Yeah, that, I'm sorry,
1156
01:17:46.770 --> 01:17:50.130
that little evil like scamper that he
does. Yeah, Oh my God,
1157
01:17:50.250 --> 01:17:54.850
freaks up hell out of me.
Yeah, my God, he was amazing.
1158
01:17:54.970 --> 01:18:00.159
And the constant purring mark, like
her dog purring Crown, yeah,
1159
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:03.840
prowling that like that he doing eat
that entire scene. He's yeah, yeah,
1160
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:08.560
growl thing. Yeah, I mean
everyone, everyone was great in that
1161
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:11.119
film. There were no bad actors
in that foot all. No, I
1162
01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:14.550
was also, you guys talked about
the score in like candy man and everything,
1163
01:18:14.989 --> 01:18:17.430
the music, and Oh my gosh, that open actually have a did
1164
01:18:17.550 --> 01:18:21.149
note sient. But Oh yeah,
I like that's the original score. The
1165
01:18:21.189 --> 01:18:28.100
original score was so good. The
the Latin singing, I'm fat. That's
1166
01:18:28.220 --> 01:18:30.699
not Latin. That's not Latin.
I ever because I thought it was Latin
1167
01:18:30.779 --> 01:18:33.500
too, because they say something,
they say something that I recognized as a
1168
01:18:33.539 --> 01:18:38.220
Latin word, but I wouldn't looked
it up afterwards. It is all nonsense
1169
01:18:38.300 --> 01:18:42.010
words and I was so angry.
So it's kind of like dull the faces.
1170
01:18:42.289 --> 01:18:45.010
Yeah, he's actually he like Sanskrit
words and do interesting. Okay,
1171
01:18:45.489 --> 01:18:48.689
all I know is like I was
watching it with my roommate and that music
1172
01:18:48.770 --> 01:18:51.529
came on and I just immediately went
new, no, no, no,
1173
01:18:54.010 --> 01:18:56.279
was like, what's wrong with you? I was like it's music. She
1174
01:18:56.439 --> 01:19:00.079
was like why and I was like
MMM, no, I'm just immediately like,
1175
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:02.039
but in like a good way,
if that makes any sense. Like
1176
01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:06.479
yeah, music came on and I
was immediately just like this is all right,
1177
01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:10.710
I think I found it and that
name of that song is called anthems.
1178
01:19:10.909 --> 01:19:14.470
It was really well shot. It
looked great and the acting was phenomenal.
1179
01:19:14.550 --> 01:19:16.789
And again, it spends like a
lot of time establishing the characters in
1180
01:19:16.829 --> 01:19:23.390
the family and all this before about
thirty or forty minutes in when that first
1181
01:19:23.430 --> 01:19:25.659
thing happens. And it, you
know, made me think. I think
1182
01:19:25.739 --> 01:19:30.020
home invasion is the scariest. Is
The scariest for our thing. That's like
1183
01:19:30.180 --> 01:19:32.420
that's the one that you could actually
see happening. Maybe not, probably would
1184
01:19:32.420 --> 01:19:35.140
not be nearly as horrific as as
these movies make it out to be,
1185
01:19:35.539 --> 01:19:41.170
like, let's be honest, but
but that's like that's the real that's the
1186
01:19:41.289 --> 01:19:43.770
real scary thing. Is like,
well, what if, you know,
1187
01:19:43.930 --> 01:19:45.970
some point bust into your home and
started, you know, murdering people?
1188
01:19:46.090 --> 01:19:49.090
Like? That's really scary. Well, like, it's your home. Is
1189
01:19:49.130 --> 01:19:54.960
supposed to be a safe right,
right. It's a violation of of your
1190
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:58.439
sanctuary. Yeah, which is,
you know, one of the things that
1191
01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:02.399
makes it really, really terrifying.
So I have lots and lots of notes
1192
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:05.960
about this that are in my head
that I'm currently writing down because I want
1193
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:11.069
to talk about all of them.
But I see what's been going on.
1194
01:20:11.270 --> 01:20:14.470
Yeah, I got yeah, yet, but you get yeah, I hear
1195
01:20:14.510 --> 01:20:46.810
it. So I why? I
guess not that it's I feel like,
1196
01:20:47.010 --> 01:20:51.359
Um, a good soundtrack is crucial
in a lot of films, right before
1197
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:56.840
a horror movie where you're trying to
maintaining certain tension right, it's absolutely crucial.
1198
01:20:56.960 --> 01:20:59.279
That's why I thought one of the
low one of the not lowest,
1199
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:00.399
points of the movie. I think
the whole movie was very good. One
1200
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:04.550
of the parts of the movie that
I think maybe should have been toned back
1201
01:21:05.310 --> 01:21:10.869
was the scene where there in the
neighbor's house and it's playing the police by
1202
01:21:10.869 --> 01:21:14.470
Nwa. That was that was which
way in the theater where I legit left,
1203
01:21:14.750 --> 01:21:16.949
right, right exactly, and it's
like this horrible tension and then the
1204
01:21:17.109 --> 01:21:20.500
the the twins like come out and
stab them and it's like what the when
1205
01:21:20.500 --> 01:21:27.260
it was playing the hold, I
wrote it down the vibrations that one was
1206
01:21:27.380 --> 01:21:29.779
like and then they's like step out
and kill all of them and still playing
1207
01:21:29.779 --> 01:21:31.859
good vibrations. That was like,
you know, jarring. But then she
1208
01:21:32.050 --> 01:21:35.770
was she was like I like how
they had they had an it was ophelia
1209
01:21:39.289 --> 01:21:45.609
police playing for the police by and
which was hilarious but like kind of spoiled
1210
01:21:45.649 --> 01:21:47.600
the tension a little bit. And
there were. There were just a couple
1211
01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:51.319
things. See, I thought that
was necessary at that point. I enjoyed
1212
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:55.920
it's I think it was good and
kind of calming me down, which which,
1213
01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:58.039
you know what, is fine if
a horror movie doesn't want to be
1214
01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:00.840
like, I don't want people to
die of stress. At the end of
1215
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:02.270
this movie. I thought it was
still a really effected movie. I don't
1216
01:22:02.270 --> 01:22:05.109
think this, I don't think this
makes it a worse movie, but I
1217
01:22:05.189 --> 01:22:09.909
think they could have he could have
Jordan, people could have chosen to just
1218
01:22:10.069 --> 01:22:12.829
have it be super tense the entire
time. I think it would have been
1219
01:22:12.989 --> 01:22:17.539
even scarier. I have, Holy
Shit, the dattle Ganger kill. That
1220
01:22:17.819 --> 01:22:23.979
was the the when they all fighting
their doppelgangers. The Dad's fight was and
1221
01:22:24.180 --> 01:22:27.300
the like struggling, shrugging, and
then he headbuts the engine just like God,
1222
01:22:29.100 --> 01:22:31.850
yeah, it was really intense.
But the I really like the dad
1223
01:22:32.010 --> 01:22:40.489
was so funny when he's fighting with
the neighbors doppelganger, the flare. HMM.
1224
01:22:42.850 --> 01:22:45.520
Yeah. Also, even when they
got in the car and then they
1225
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:49.319
were but she was like I have
the most kill, so yeah, driving
1226
01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:54.399
right one. So that, to
me, the the the the jokey stuff
1227
01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:57.520
to me was like okay, fine, I'm okay with this. You know,
1228
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:00.510
ratchet at ten, ten just a
little bit so I can breathe again.
1229
01:23:00.869 --> 01:23:03.350
I was fine with that. That
part, and and the part where
1230
01:23:03.390 --> 01:23:06.949
the right earlier, where they're discussing
like leaving, I feel like they were
1231
01:23:06.989 --> 01:23:11.590
a little too calm, like their
voices were too calm, especially when you
1232
01:23:11.630 --> 01:23:15.460
look at the terror and shock on
their faces. I feel like their deliveries
1233
01:23:15.539 --> 01:23:18.460
didn't quite match their faces and they
were like I have the highest skill calm,
1234
01:23:18.579 --> 01:23:21.300
like what kid is going to say
that after they just had to kill
1235
01:23:21.340 --> 01:23:25.340
someone that they've known for years?
I feel like there wasn't enough. There
1236
01:23:25.380 --> 01:23:28.369
wasn't quite a mean I can understand
if they had, you know, like
1237
01:23:28.729 --> 01:23:30.970
shocks. They they're in shock and
they're just trying to yeah, we can
1238
01:23:31.010 --> 01:23:34.489
only resort of humor. But again, it wasn't necessarily the the words in
1239
01:23:34.529 --> 01:23:38.810
the dialog, it was how they
were delivered kind of nonchalantly, whereas I
1240
01:23:38.850 --> 01:23:41.880
feel if they had delivered it in
more of like a reeking out sort of
1241
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:45.079
way, it would have that would
have come across less as like writing jokes
1242
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:47.319
into the script and more like this
is them trying to cope with what they
1243
01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:51.840
just did, especially because they did
such a good job portraying the shock on
1244
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:55.909
their faces. HMM, I think. I don't know when I was watching
1245
01:23:55.909 --> 01:23:58.670
it, like it kind of got
to a level in which the kids were
1246
01:23:58.789 --> 01:24:00.430
like all right, fuck it,
this is what we're doing. Like when
1247
01:24:00.470 --> 01:24:05.710
they go into the House, when
the dad's like fighting the other dad stopped
1248
01:24:05.750 --> 01:24:09.029
with hanger and all that stuff,
and the kids go into the house,
1249
01:24:09.069 --> 01:24:12.699
like I remember my roommated was literally
like why are you going in the house?
1250
01:24:12.779 --> 01:24:15.619
Yeah, but I think like Oh, we grab took the grabbed her
1251
01:24:15.659 --> 01:24:18.340
mom right right. But then like
they grabbed the golf club and I feel
1252
01:24:18.340 --> 01:24:21.260
like at a point they're like all
right, like like it's either kill or
1253
01:24:21.300 --> 01:24:25.010
be killed, right, right,
right and then, and that's fine and
1254
01:24:25.130 --> 01:24:27.569
would but you see it like okay, so one the first the first girl
1255
01:24:27.609 --> 01:24:29.970
they like hit over the railing and
she just dies. The second girl,
1256
01:24:29.970 --> 01:24:31.569
who like knocked her out and then
it starts wailing on her with his face
1257
01:24:31.689 --> 01:24:34.649
of like I can't like I just
have to keep going until she's dead.
1258
01:24:34.970 --> 01:24:38.720
But then the like the delttle later
is a little out of sync with that.
1259
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.239
HMM. Okay, that's that's that's
my point and again, I think
1260
01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:45.439
for it part of it was also
they sit down and are watching the news,
1261
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.720
like there's almost a like d impress
that part where you're sitting on the
1262
01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:53.550
table. I think was a good
like they're decompressing and trying to deal with
1263
01:24:53.590 --> 01:24:55.430
it. But, yeah, let's
figure out what's going on. Yeah,
1264
01:24:55.670 --> 01:24:58.949
and that's when they like turn earn
on the news and they see everything that's
1265
01:24:58.989 --> 01:25:02.789
going on and so and then they
like are running out to the car and
1266
01:25:02.909 --> 01:25:08.020
then, yeah, I don't know, but I I personally, being someone
1267
01:25:08.060 --> 01:25:12.899
who has been scared multiple times just
within this podcast, hearing different things,
1268
01:25:12.939 --> 01:25:17.539
appreciated the joking and things that headed
what it was. Just like I see
1269
01:25:17.659 --> 01:25:21.090
moving the mouse over there and I'm
afraid to gonna scare me again. So
1270
01:25:21.250 --> 01:25:25.449
I had so during that scene again, I'm going through my notes, that
1271
01:25:25.529 --> 01:25:27.329
this was just like what I was
right now. Yeah, I'm watching it.
1272
01:25:27.609 --> 01:25:30.689
When she killed the Doppel mom from
the other family was and mosses.
1273
01:25:30.890 --> 01:25:33.409
Yeah, it was with Matha stopped
Ganger. Well, but the boy did
1274
01:25:33.489 --> 01:25:38.239
that? No, no, she
did, like she like Kitty. That's
1275
01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:40.920
when you see the mom, you
see the Pete in the Ongo, you
1276
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:44.319
see her kind of start to go
a little insane, which again doesn't make
1277
01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:47.920
sense to the very, very end
of them. But I just have oceans
1278
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:54.949
mom just iced hole. Wow,
the fight that she had with her doppel
1279
01:25:54.989 --> 01:26:00.069
Ganger was so good, so brilliantly
shot. There's so many things I love,
1280
01:26:00.350 --> 01:26:04.859
Love, love about this movie,
but that final showdown was just incredible.
1281
01:26:04.859 --> 01:26:10.140
Yeah, some the mirrored actions and
and you know the line. It
1282
01:26:10.300 --> 01:26:13.220
just to think I would never have
danced if it not for you, right,
1283
01:26:13.420 --> 01:26:16.939
right, and so and like the
whole fight scene was mirrored as a
1284
01:26:17.060 --> 01:26:20.329
dance. It's so good. Oh
my gosh, I have a list.
1285
01:26:20.409 --> 01:26:25.170
It's not until it's not until forty
minutes in the doppel family even shows up.
1286
01:26:25.170 --> 01:26:28.609
Right and if to our movie,
though. Yeah, obviously major spoiler
1287
01:26:29.250 --> 01:26:32.720
the ending. Right Ris revealed that
the very beginning of the movie when they'll
1288
01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:36.880
beat in, Younga as a kid, meets her doppelganger, meets her tethered,
1289
01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:42.000
the tether chokes her and switches places
with it. So it's Adelie.
1290
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:45.520
And then read, read, yes, red is red the tethered. So
1291
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:49.189
we find out that red has actually
been who we thought at Lee. Yes,
1292
01:26:49.310 --> 01:26:55.590
right, yes, I have many
notes about this that are a bit
1293
01:26:55.630 --> 01:26:59.510
different from what y'all have talked about. Wanna jump in there about I don't
1294
01:26:59.510 --> 01:27:01.779
want to interrupt if you I said
nothing about the last thing I have.
1295
01:27:01.899 --> 01:27:04.979
So I was just like, what
a plot twist. But then that last
1296
01:27:05.100 --> 01:27:09.500
shot of them driving away and the
son is staring him of like a Bam.
1297
01:27:09.699 --> 01:27:13.979
He knows. Yeah, she took
like Adelaide to hold him. I'm
1298
01:27:14.060 --> 01:27:15.649
convinced that Adelaide told him. I
think she. I don't know if she
1299
01:27:15.770 --> 01:27:23.010
recognizes it, but he knows well
and I think he's I think she knows
1300
01:27:23.050 --> 01:27:27.649
that he knows and I think that
he realizes, wow, this lady,
1301
01:27:27.930 --> 01:27:30.479
who are this? This girl who
lived underground became my mom, right,
1302
01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:34.720
and and so, and also that
she's one of the crazy killer people.
1303
01:27:34.760 --> 01:27:40.600
Yeah, but obviously she's trying to. She's obviously, but it also explains
1304
01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:44.909
why none of the tether can talk. And so so they tie it back
1305
01:27:44.909 --> 01:27:47.109
into when she when she when red
switches places. Right, they have the
1306
01:27:47.149 --> 01:27:50.750
flashback of Oh, she's got PTSD, that's why she's not talking, and
1307
01:27:50.869 --> 01:27:56.069
so they give her dance lessons so
she's learn right. And why it read
1308
01:27:56.229 --> 01:27:59.460
is the Art Adelaide is the only
tether that can talk and she has the
1309
01:27:59.500 --> 01:28:01.699
really horse voice because she was choked
and sort of voices. I never thought
1310
01:28:01.739 --> 01:28:03.979
of that until you just said it. Yeah, so I think that's really
1311
01:28:04.060 --> 01:28:20.770
cool. And Yeah, so what
made you play the tension? For you
1312
01:28:21.409 --> 01:28:33.960
was a girl. Yeah, so
your voice is so good. And the
1313
01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:38.560
thing is she would do that on
set, like she wouldn't break character when
1314
01:28:38.600 --> 01:28:42.909
she was talking to there. There's
clips of her like between scenes and she's
1315
01:28:42.949 --> 01:28:45.670
talking about the scene they're about to
shoot and chill see and she's like this
1316
01:28:45.949 --> 01:28:50.149
is the scene as this, as
this happened. Yet okay, like Gill
1317
01:28:50.590 --> 01:28:55.069
like giving and taking stage directions in
that voice. Well, because it's and
1318
01:28:55.430 --> 01:28:59.260
they didn't even noted her for an
Oscar No, insane. Well, because,
1319
01:28:59.340 --> 01:29:03.220
like, and it's also just like
the breathiness, but then the abrupt
1320
01:29:04.140 --> 01:29:06.859
and like, because it's not just
like this Gurgle, like it could just
1321
01:29:06.939 --> 01:29:13.970
be this, like like, like, like I would take leapede and Younggos
1322
01:29:14.010 --> 01:29:15.289
Batman, I would take that.
Oh, yeah, I watch that like
1323
01:29:15.449 --> 01:29:18.210
it would. It's not even like
that kind of a voice or something.
1324
01:29:18.329 --> 01:29:21.329
It's like I don't know, because
I feel like it juxtaposed with like this
1325
01:29:21.569 --> 01:29:27.399
strength versus this weakness, like she
almost has like a weakened voice. Yeah,
1326
01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:32.319
but it almost makes her appear stronger. So interesting. So I have
1327
01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:35.000
a really exciting list. Sorry,
guys, I'm like chomping up the thing.
1328
01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:38.439
All right, hit there, okay, okay. So, so one
1329
01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:42.670
of the things I really, really
love about Jordan Peel's work is that his
1330
01:29:43.430 --> 01:29:47.550
movies also provide social commentary and he
tells you, at least in us.
1331
01:29:47.590 --> 01:29:49.750
I've only seen get out once.
I need to watch get out again,
1332
01:29:50.109 --> 01:29:57.420
but in us he tells you exactly
what he's doing. Right in the very
1333
01:29:57.500 --> 01:30:00.539
first shot of the TV as it's
zooming in on that newscast, look at
1334
01:30:00.539 --> 01:30:04.140
the vhs tapes that are on all
that are sitting next to the TV.
1335
01:30:04.220 --> 01:30:09.850
You have Chud. You had but
it Schud, Chud, Chud. It's
1336
01:30:09.890 --> 01:30:14.090
a it's s horror film. It's
got Daniel Sterne it, but it's about
1337
01:30:14.329 --> 01:30:20.250
these people who live under, underground
in New York City and they're but they're
1338
01:30:20.289 --> 01:30:25.199
like mutant people in Volleyball, oh, people class. Yeah, I started
1339
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:28.279
watching it not that long ago and
I dosed off because I was very sleepy
1340
01:30:28.399 --> 01:30:31.399
that day. But anyway, so
there's Chud. There's invasion of the body
1341
01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:36.350
snatchers and then there's them. Oh
yeah, yeah, so he tells you
1342
01:30:36.630 --> 01:30:41.630
what he's doing right right there,
just with those vahs tapes. But then
1343
01:30:42.590 --> 01:30:45.949
the commercial is about hands across America, right, which was a social program
1344
01:30:46.390 --> 01:30:49.460
that meant, that was meant to
benefit, you know, people in poverty
1345
01:30:49.500 --> 01:30:55.539
and things like that, and that
also failed. You have them Adelaide's family
1346
01:30:55.579 --> 01:31:00.659
at the at the fair, and
she wants this thriller t shirt. If
1347
01:31:00.699 --> 01:31:04.250
you watch the thriller video, it's
Michael Jackson facing off like with his you
1348
01:31:04.329 --> 01:31:09.210
know, with his other self,
like the Werewolf sell. So Jordan Peel
1349
01:31:09.369 --> 01:31:12.569
tell you everything he's going to do
in this movie in the first five minutes?
1350
01:31:13.289 --> 01:31:15.770
Sure, I'll I don't know that
that. Know that you could piece
1351
01:31:15.850 --> 01:31:17.210
that together until you've actually seen the
movie. Right, right, right.
1352
01:31:17.369 --> 01:31:21.000
I mean the as soon as I
saw those vhs tapes, because I recognize
1353
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:24.720
that that was something that he did
in get out like the different things that
1354
01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:29.399
he came from, I was like, and also after just knowing how much
1355
01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:31.989
of a student of like science fiction
and horror genre he is, like I
1356
01:31:32.149 --> 01:31:34.350
was like, okay, these,
this is important. Pay attention here,
1357
01:31:34.390 --> 01:31:40.750
all right, so it's also reminds
me a lot of this Denzel lockhinghan movie
1358
01:31:40.789 --> 01:31:44.069
called fallen. You've told me about
that. I have seen it because it
1359
01:31:44.189 --> 01:31:48.260
has a very the plot twist is
set up very similarly, where there's something
1360
01:31:48.340 --> 01:31:51.100
set up in the beginning that gets
paid off at the end and then you
1361
01:31:51.180 --> 01:31:54.779
say, oh, that's what they
were setting up at the beginning. Now
1362
01:31:54.859 --> 01:31:57.699
the beginning makes sense. But yeah, I think it's a great movie.
1363
01:31:57.739 --> 01:32:00.939
It plods in the middle, but
I think it's worth watching for the for
1364
01:32:00.020 --> 01:32:03.569
the ending is but also the other
thing that he sits up with. That
1365
01:32:03.810 --> 01:32:08.529
the that very first scene at the
fair when she goes into the The the
1366
01:32:08.609 --> 01:32:13.250
vision quest yeah, a one.
You have use of reflection in mirrors,
1367
01:32:13.369 --> 01:32:16.520
which gets brought in into loads of
different scenes, whether there's a mirror in
1368
01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:20.800
the scene or not, like Adelaide
seeing her, she's looking at her reflection
1369
01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:26.720
in the window right before the the
the tether family shows up there there,
1370
01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:29.760
you know. So you know that
use of reflection in mirrors and you of
1371
01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:32.750
course that's a story about Babblegangers,
so you have that also. Jordan Peele
1372
01:32:32.789 --> 01:32:36.189
also told you something that was going
to happen if you opened your Bible is
1373
01:32:36.310 --> 01:32:40.470
just the dude. That's what jeremilevel
and I looked it up and here it
1374
01:32:40.630 --> 01:32:42.909
is, so you don't have to
look it up. Dar My Eleven,
1375
01:32:42.949 --> 01:32:45.899
Eleven, therefore, thus is the
Lord behold. I am bringing disaster upon
1376
01:32:45.939 --> 01:32:47.939
them that they cannot escape. They
cry to me, I will not listen
1377
01:32:47.939 --> 01:32:50.979
to them, and she talks about
God. Should like brought me to this
1378
01:32:51.140 --> 01:32:56.300
point. Yep, one, then
eleven. Is like all throughout the move.
1379
01:32:56.699 --> 01:32:58.689
And that mirror. You know,
that's a mirror too. Yeah,
1380
01:32:59.210 --> 01:33:03.170
it's a mirror. And then there's
also it's on the clock and then it's
1381
01:33:03.729 --> 01:33:05.970
for good the other time. But
like it's, yeah, all through.
1382
01:33:06.130 --> 01:33:11.130
Yeah, and the thing is like, even though they survived, they show
1383
01:33:11.289 --> 01:33:15.920
like the tethered killed everyone. Well, and and I I was a little
1384
01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:18.039
lost as to what the tethered were
accomplishing, making this huge Human Jane.
1385
01:33:18.680 --> 01:33:21.600
Well, that was hands across America, right. They were all in red,
1386
01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:25.960
just like the hands across America Tahirt, right, which is what Adelaide
1387
01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:30.229
was wearing right when she and read
swap places. Right. So one of
1388
01:33:30.270 --> 01:33:35.470
the other things that I wanted to
note about the tether. So the first
1389
01:33:35.470 --> 01:33:40.909
time I watched the movie, I
spent a lot of time trying to figure
1390
01:33:40.909 --> 01:33:44.460
out the science of the tether.
Uh Huh. And then the second time
1391
01:33:44.460 --> 01:33:45.979
I watched a movie, I'm like
what that? You know, I kept
1392
01:33:46.020 --> 01:33:49.500
I could not quite piece it together. The third time I watched the movie,
1393
01:33:49.859 --> 01:33:53.979
it's like it is not about the
tether, it is about who is
1394
01:33:54.020 --> 01:33:56.729
in the position of power, right, and that is the whole point of
1395
01:33:56.770 --> 01:33:59.850
the movie, right, like and
I was like, holy crap, that
1396
01:34:00.010 --> 01:34:04.890
is like the amazing like social commentary, like it does not matter that Adelaide
1397
01:34:04.930 --> 01:34:09.010
and read swap places. It was
about who was in the position of power,
1398
01:34:09.210 --> 01:34:11.439
and that's the person who was on
top, right, and that's that's
1399
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:13.359
the whole. That's whole that I
mean. I mean they don't tell you
1400
01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:15.199
that till like the very, very, very, very very end. And
1401
01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:18.439
again, I'm a little slow,
but I was geeking about all of the
1402
01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:23.560
other stuff. But they don't really
show you that. They imply that the
1403
01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:28.510
tethered are sometimes forced to mirror what
they're above. Oh yeah, partners are
1404
01:34:28.590 --> 01:34:31.949
doing, which is how the the
kid is it takes care of Piro.
1405
01:34:32.430 --> 01:34:36.829
See. Is it that, or
is it that the people down below could
1406
01:34:36.909 --> 01:34:42.659
make the people above hear because they
were good. The idea was droll.
1407
01:34:42.739 --> 01:34:45.659
Yeah, the idea was to do
that, but because it was a band
1408
01:34:45.699 --> 01:34:48.260
of forever's and I think it's okay
for him to have like mystery about how
1409
01:34:48.300 --> 01:34:53.569
did this work. Like at the
the honest trailer was like this. L's
1410
01:34:53.569 --> 01:34:55.890
all these questions that like runs through, all these questions that, like,
1411
01:34:56.010 --> 01:34:59.090
how would you answer these questions at
right? What if the what if the
1412
01:34:59.250 --> 01:35:02.689
sun is also switched? I don't
have that. I say, I don't
1413
01:35:02.689 --> 01:35:05.890
think he is either, but that
was definitely a thought I had, because
1414
01:35:05.930 --> 01:35:12.199
the sun is visibly scarred under the
mask. Yeah, right, but I'm
1415
01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:15.399
curious as if like something happened,
and also because he's scarred. That's why
1416
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:19.279
he can't talk anymore. And also
there was a certain level in which,
1417
01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:24.069
like, he couldn't remember how the
toy were that he hadn't used for years.
1418
01:35:24.109 --> 01:35:29.069
Also, he could not snap and
beat just like red his mother.
1419
01:35:29.350 --> 01:35:32.909
Yeah, couldn't, just kind of
showing that he doesn't belong there. Also,
1420
01:35:32.909 --> 01:35:36.460
I remember learning that it they were
created to be able to control the
1421
01:35:36.539 --> 01:35:42.979
people up top, and so if
you notice, like the sun immediately notices
1422
01:35:43.060 --> 01:35:45.539
that it's a trap, he's also
the first person to realize who they are,
1423
01:35:46.260 --> 01:35:50.210
like when they're there, he's like
there's us. Yeah, and also
1424
01:35:50.289 --> 01:35:53.489
then at the end he's the one
that knows that, like, if he
1425
01:35:54.489 --> 01:35:58.729
backs up and things like that,
like right, the other will follow,
1426
01:35:59.369 --> 01:36:01.090
and that's how he kills them.
So I don't know, those are just
1427
01:36:01.250 --> 01:36:05.760
some thoughts. I don't know exactly
where I stand, but I potentially think
1428
01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:11.399
that the sun was swapped because then
also, why doesn't Adelaide kill him when
1429
01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:15.680
he takes him, because that's originally
who she right gave first he yeah,
1430
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:17.319
he does, and then he does
latch onto the sun. It's a good
1431
01:36:17.319 --> 01:36:19.270
when would they when would they switch, though? When? I don't know.
1432
01:36:19.430 --> 01:36:23.029
Dan, people on the podcast answer
these questions. Now we'll tweet it.
1433
01:36:23.069 --> 01:36:25.310
Will tweet him. Hey, Jordan, Jordan being into this, least
1434
01:36:25.310 --> 01:36:27.949
join us. All right, so
here's so here's the honest. Trailers break
1435
01:36:27.949 --> 01:36:31.710
down all the questions about the about
the tethered baston's. Why is there a
1436
01:36:31.829 --> 01:36:35.180
tethered for everyone in America? How
is there enough space underground for them?
1437
01:36:35.340 --> 01:36:39.220
And the people must have known about
these experiments. How did no one find
1438
01:36:39.220 --> 01:36:42.060
out of the last thirty years purely
they were using an electricity, water and
1439
01:36:42.100 --> 01:36:44.939
raw materials to raise some red flags. Can the tailor control the rections independently
1440
01:36:44.939 --> 01:36:46.100
or not? If not, how
are they executing his complicated plan? If
1441
01:36:46.140 --> 01:36:48.010
so, why they bothers staying on
the ground? Did the people who make
1442
01:36:48.050 --> 01:36:49.289
the t other for get to lock
the door in the way out? And
1443
01:36:49.329 --> 01:36:51.130
they have the same body type is
are double. Their diet is one hunders
1444
01:36:51.130 --> 01:36:54.050
rebbit EA, the to the bit
the rabbits. But the rabbits eat really
1445
01:36:54.050 --> 01:36:56.489
get thousands, about millions of red
season scissors. Really, we queat everything
1446
01:36:56.489 --> 01:36:58.890
this well, repsually like classers.
Always what a people lived. They part
1447
01:36:58.890 --> 01:37:00.609
of the least. I think.
The vertical differences are there iss piles of
1448
01:37:00.609 --> 01:37:01.520
Google tunnel. When us to your
tethering tryouts on the country, think is
1449
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:04.000
waiting the border to keep leaning,
while the character what's your tether, insipily
1450
01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:06.560
the courts. We die smiling's voice
when eptelling Pales. Just need to pick
1451
01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:12.520
the pretty premix about five on it
just where you wat it so well.
1452
01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:15.229
I mean I feel like also,
this movie was definitely a commentary on like
1453
01:37:15.750 --> 01:37:18.550
America. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, because it was supposed to be like
1454
01:37:18.590 --> 01:37:23.789
a government thing and I feel like
that's also why red is like we need
1455
01:37:23.869 --> 01:37:27.550
to drive to Mexico, like we
need to leave the country, right,
1456
01:37:27.869 --> 01:37:30.859
and I think there's also just even
that aspect of like who are you,
1457
01:37:30.220 --> 01:37:34.380
and like it's like we're American.
Yeah, yeah, it's like yeah,
1458
01:37:34.380 --> 01:37:39.899
yeah, and it yeah. So
I think if you compare it estions,
1459
01:37:39.939 --> 01:37:42.859
you can have yeah, I think
if you compare it to get out Jordan,
1460
01:37:43.220 --> 01:37:46.170
you'll expanded his vision. HMM,
and because of that you end up
1461
01:37:46.170 --> 01:37:49.130
with some some plot holes, but
you know, those aren't those don't matter
1462
01:37:49.289 --> 01:37:51.810
in the long run. Yeah,
so I get out as much tighter focused
1463
01:37:51.850 --> 01:37:57.289
film about like one family, one
area and the crazy stuff that was happening
1464
01:37:57.289 --> 01:38:00.359
there. And this is about like
this is happening across the nation, right.
1465
01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:02.479
So the he expand the scope much
bigger. I think it works really
1466
01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:05.239
well. You did a really good
job of showing us like this is what's
1467
01:38:05.279 --> 01:38:10.279
happening everywhere within the realm of this
one family and the special thing. And
1468
01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:15.189
so, you know, I I
think, I think again it was it's
1469
01:38:15.229 --> 01:38:20.189
not completely clear, but I think
Adelaide implies that because she wasn't she was
1470
01:38:20.630 --> 01:38:26.430
and above ground person. She was
able to help the other tethered break the
1471
01:38:26.590 --> 01:38:30.500
control, because she was like they
knew I was a special obviously special because
1472
01:38:30.539 --> 01:38:33.260
she wasn't originally a tethered when I
think it's also because, like, that's
1473
01:38:33.300 --> 01:38:39.779
why red's dancing career peaked at fourteen, because it doesn't belong there. She
1474
01:38:39.939 --> 01:38:44.090
can't even snap in Rhad them and
so, and that's why, when they
1475
01:38:44.090 --> 01:38:47.569
saw her dance, they realized she
was special because she could dance in rhythm
1476
01:38:47.649 --> 01:38:51.609
and she could dance so many things. I'm yeah, it was. It
1477
01:38:51.850 --> 01:38:55.649
was really good, and that's when
I would definitely, definitely be happy to
1478
01:38:55.689 --> 01:38:58.560
go readaus. Oh, yeah,
totally worth it. Yeah, of the
1479
01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:01.720
five, candy man and well,
Tuckerndale's just a great movie, but I
1480
01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:04.520
wouldn't put it in a hori genre. Put in comedy, you have to
1481
01:39:04.600 --> 01:39:09.520
be able to stomach Gore, right. Yeah, yeah, reasonable. But
1482
01:39:09.800 --> 01:39:13.470
canny man and us were both are
really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1483
01:39:13.590 --> 01:39:15.909
everybody, everybody was great. I'm
the first time I saw us,
1484
01:39:15.989 --> 01:39:19.630
the one thing I took away from
it walking away was wow, I'm really
1485
01:39:19.670 --> 01:39:24.619
glad that he is handling the twilight
zone and I know, I know people
1486
01:39:25.460 --> 01:39:28.739
have e clained about it, have
been grumpy about it, but I don't
1487
01:39:28.779 --> 01:39:30.979
think they understand what he's and again
you've you're always going to have people like
1488
01:39:31.020 --> 01:39:33.779
Oh, with the origin was so
much better. It was like, yeah,
1489
01:39:33.819 --> 01:39:36.539
it's because you're the one, that's
the one that you are nostalgic for,
1490
01:39:36.699 --> 01:39:40.770
and that's fine, but because I, while I enjoy the twilight zone
1491
01:39:40.770 --> 01:39:43.729
a lot, I have no nostalgia
for it because it wasn't something that grew
1492
01:39:43.770 --> 01:39:46.250
up watching. And you know,
and having watched all of his twilight zone
1493
01:39:46.289 --> 01:39:50.489
episodes, I am very, very
impressed with what he's done and like the
1494
01:39:51.090 --> 01:39:55.399
camp, he still he'd still does
his social commentary. Yeah, and I
1495
01:39:55.479 --> 01:40:00.000
think that's what makes his his films
not just good science fiction, but I
1496
01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:03.479
mean good science fiction also commentates on
it's a commentary on the world. It's
1497
01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:05.760
it was such an interesting pivot for
him. But when I you know,
1498
01:40:05.840 --> 01:40:09.789
when I analyze it, actually makes
a ton of sense. Right, he
1499
01:40:09.869 --> 01:40:12.590
was a huge nerd, so he's
got this no offense. He's you know,
1500
01:40:12.750 --> 01:40:15.989
he's got this. He's got this
depth of knowledge about sci fi and
1501
01:40:16.590 --> 01:40:20.619
all these genres. Right, you
do comedy and comedy is very good at
1502
01:40:20.699 --> 01:40:27.420
touching on real issues and, you
know, using comedy and exaggeration to highlight
1503
01:40:28.100 --> 01:40:31.100
social issues. Comedy, commedity,
been doing that for years, for decades,
1504
01:40:31.220 --> 01:40:34.260
right, it's and and you know, comedy also often draws on darker
1505
01:40:34.260 --> 01:40:38.369
aspects of things. Sure, for
a laugh, right, but it's not
1506
01:40:38.409 --> 01:40:41.569
too much of a stretch to take
that and just make it to emphasize the
1507
01:40:41.689 --> 01:40:45.329
horror of it instead of instead of
ups making it absurd for a laugh.
1508
01:40:45.770 --> 01:40:47.289
So so, when I think about
it, like the pivot actually a kind
1509
01:40:47.289 --> 01:40:51.760
of makes sense. He's a brilliant, brilliant director, writer, producer.
1510
01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:58.840
I'm so excited to see all and
work is wife, Chelsea Peretti, is
1511
01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:01.520
amazing. On Brooklyn Nine. Really, she's Gina on Brooklyn night. What
1512
01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:05.670
I did not know he was married
to her. Right, kidding, right,
1513
01:41:05.789 --> 01:41:11.750
and I'm like, what shutter kind
funniest kids? Oh my gosh,
1514
01:41:11.750 --> 01:41:14.149
I hadn't no idea he was one
of the children. Already Thought, oh
1515
01:41:14.149 --> 01:41:16.390
my gosh, can wee Jordan and
Chelsea, please invite us to dinner.
1516
01:41:16.550 --> 01:41:19.739
We love both of you very much. Maybe when Coronas over her. Yeah,
1517
01:41:19.859 --> 01:41:24.659
maybe easier socially distance. Outside dinner
we talked all about all. I'll
1518
01:41:24.699 --> 01:41:27.819
make it, I will cook it. Oh, whatever you like, whatever
1519
01:41:27.859 --> 01:41:31.340
you want, y'all look for a
treat, all right. So let's let's
1520
01:41:31.539 --> 01:41:34.449
last thoughts on us. I thought
it was great and now again, I
1521
01:41:34.569 --> 01:41:39.449
think you may have sold me on
on watching horror. Yeah, US is
1522
01:41:39.890 --> 01:41:43.529
it might be my my gosh,
it's so close between like us and knives
1523
01:41:43.569 --> 01:41:45.970
out, but I feel like I
love them both equally, but they do
1524
01:41:45.090 --> 01:41:48.800
completely different things and so I find
it hard to rank them. But US
1525
01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:54.039
is definitely one of the most important
that this last year and I cannot recommended
1526
01:41:54.039 --> 01:41:57.479
it enough. I had been wanting
to watch it, and so I'm glad,
1527
01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:00.000
like literally, I remember bringing it
up with people and being like can
1528
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:02.869
we watch us, and I had
people literally be like this is us,
1529
01:42:03.029 --> 01:42:06.909
no, that's different, things like
that. No, no, that was
1530
01:42:06.989 --> 01:42:13.550
the first soundtrack I found. Yeah, that I'm so glad that I finally
1531
01:42:14.550 --> 01:42:18.180
not to watch it. I'm just
yeah, because I saw get out and
1532
01:42:18.779 --> 01:42:21.779
I thought that this, I thought
the US was scarier than get out.
1533
01:42:23.220 --> 01:42:26.060
Yeah, yeah, definitely for sure. I've none of other people who did
1534
01:42:26.100 --> 01:42:30.329
not feel the same. I mean
I never felt like either of them were
1535
01:42:30.850 --> 01:42:33.289
super, super scary, but there
is definitely a lot in it. It's
1536
01:42:33.369 --> 01:42:36.329
like, oh my gosh, that
freaks me out. Okay, well,
1537
01:42:36.369 --> 01:42:40.930
let's be fair. If we're being
real, you can play that song over
1538
01:42:41.050 --> 01:42:44.170
like my little prenies, and I
will probably be scared. Okay, I'M
1539
01:42:44.170 --> 01:42:46.039
gonna I'm gonna make that now.
I'm gonna find that. No, I'm
1540
01:42:46.039 --> 01:42:48.640
gonna, like, I'm gonna go
you further. I'M gonna be like it
1541
01:42:48.840 --> 01:42:55.359
Jelly gummy bears or like tell a
tubby's bubble guppies. I don't know what
1542
01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:58.479
that is. So little kid show. I think you're right. Bright.
1543
01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:00.909
Yeah, well, guys, and
just put the put horror music over it.
1544
01:43:02.949 --> 01:43:09.350
This is my new youtube series.
Do not steal. That's why I
1545
01:43:09.470 --> 01:43:14.579
again, like I said, like
it's the sound of things that gets me,
1546
01:43:14.699 --> 01:43:16.779
and not even necessarily the sound of
like the action, but the music
1547
01:43:16.859 --> 01:43:20.899
along with it. That's why I
really want to watch the birds, because
1548
01:43:20.899 --> 01:43:24.579
I know it did the hitchcock one. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's
1549
01:43:24.579 --> 01:43:27.100
great ful. I've heard it sex. Yeah, hitchcock is a good director.
1550
01:43:27.140 --> 01:43:29.970
Yeah, apparently he was a bit
of an ass. A bit of
1551
01:43:30.010 --> 01:43:32.810
an ASS isn't understate. Yeah,
yeah, he was kind of terrible human.
1552
01:43:32.890 --> 01:43:35.890
Yeah. Yeah, she's unfortunate,
because I love his work. Yeah,
1553
01:43:36.130 --> 01:43:40.250
drives me nuts. Yeah, I
feel like the a lot of the
1554
01:43:40.609 --> 01:43:44.640
the older really good directors were like
insane people that probably shouldn't have been allowed
1555
01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:47.640
to work. Had really created direction, but we're miserable to work with like
1556
01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:53.319
Kubrick and hitchcock. Yeah, that's
why I like when that music came on,
1557
01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:59.069
I just immediately just uneasy when it's
even similarly with have you guys seen
1558
01:43:59.109 --> 01:44:02.270
sinister? I have not seen sinister. So in sinister a big aspect is
1559
01:44:02.470 --> 01:44:06.670
he's watching films on like this very
old eight track, and so the sound
1560
01:44:06.750 --> 01:44:12.100
of like films on nature. I'm
may be saying say eight track was like
1561
01:44:12.180 --> 01:44:15.699
a big cassette take with eight tracks
on it. Okay, seem on that,
1562
01:44:15.939 --> 01:44:19.659
but whatever, not that LASERDISC BEATA
Max. Okay, our younger audience,
1563
01:44:19.779 --> 01:44:21.979
if there are any, are not
going to have no idea what you
1564
01:44:23.140 --> 01:44:26.210
yeah, well, I'm ten years
older than Hank and I five years older
1565
01:44:26.289 --> 01:44:30.810
than you. So anyway, sinister, yes, but yeah, the it's
1566
01:44:30.890 --> 01:44:35.689
just this, like it's that looking
where you like. It's it's the roles,
1567
01:44:35.770 --> 01:44:40.600
like the films that yeah, stuff, and it's just like that clicking
1568
01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:45.039
and he cood yeah, and basically
he's seeing like films of the murders of
1569
01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:48.600
these families, Oh yeah, and
stuff like that. But so, like,
1570
01:44:49.039 --> 01:44:54.390
I watched it was like one of
my neighbors and all that stuff,
1571
01:44:54.390 --> 01:44:58.789
and just like the sound of that, like the gang. It gets me
1572
01:44:58.829 --> 01:45:01.310
a little bit, but like it
freaks her out that randomly, whenever I'm
1573
01:45:01.310 --> 01:45:03.750
around her, I'll just like play
that, and so I think it's just
1574
01:45:03.829 --> 01:45:10.859
so interesting how sound effects. Oh
yeah, at that was honestly one of
1575
01:45:10.899 --> 01:45:14.539
the reasons, one of the things
that made lepicon by far the worst was
1576
01:45:14.619 --> 01:45:18.779
the audio was terrible. And yes, like the words weren't seeking up right.
1577
01:45:19.500 --> 01:45:24.090
Yeah, but, yeah, I
did like Jennifer and has some shorts,
1578
01:45:24.130 --> 01:45:27.649
though, oh my gosh. Oh, when Zoop I noticed there were
1579
01:45:27.649 --> 01:45:32.130
a lot of shoe shots in the
foot fetish. But even before that's revealed,
1580
01:45:32.210 --> 01:45:36.319
like you get a shot of Jennifer
Aniston wearing red slouch shocks and La
1581
01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:40.199
gear high tops and I was like, I would have killed for those shoes
1582
01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:45.680
when I was said that, you
know, but I, yeah, I
1583
01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:50.229
told had a pair of La gear
sneakers and I definitely wore some slough shocks
1584
01:45:50.270 --> 01:45:57.750
back in the day. Watch.
Yeah, anyway, I just I just
1585
01:45:57.869 --> 01:46:00.670
like cackled. But yeah, so
those were five horror movies that we watch
1586
01:46:00.829 --> 01:46:03.500
this horse season. Definitely I would
recommend all of them, except Lepricaon,
1587
01:46:03.659 --> 01:46:08.739
although it's it's not like an unpleasant
movie, it's just bad. So yeah,
1588
01:46:08.899 --> 01:46:12.100
yeah, you get some friends and
do like a mystery science theater style
1589
01:46:12.180 --> 01:46:14.619
thing. I think, like a
drinking game to it. I think when
1590
01:46:14.659 --> 01:46:18.050
we find every time they'll Africa on
accents every time. More we're Davis Saxon
1591
01:46:18.090 --> 01:46:25.609
slips, you'll be smashed every time. Shoes are like anytime they focus on
1592
01:46:25.649 --> 01:46:29.569
somebody shoes, think the shoe,
you'll die. Take a drink and not
1593
01:46:29.689 --> 01:46:32.640
I yeah's toxic masculine. All right. Well, yeah, so, so
1594
01:46:32.760 --> 01:46:36.600
those are some some things you can
do this Halloween season. Yeah, so
1595
01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:40.960
let's let's wrap up, wrap up
real quick. What do you think the
1596
01:46:41.079 --> 01:46:44.920
next next couple? Obviously we got
to watch the Vich the because I forgot
1597
01:46:44.960 --> 01:46:47.069
to do that, bummer. So
what else? What else do you think
1598
01:46:47.229 --> 01:46:51.630
we should write into? Well,
I mean a real we stick if we
1599
01:46:51.789 --> 01:46:56.229
did another horror episode. Yeah,
if we were to do another horror episode,
1600
01:46:56.229 --> 01:47:00.390
maybe in like three four months.
We have noticeably not watched any west
1601
01:47:00.470 --> 01:47:03.180
Craven. So, okay, I
gone to watch some nightmare in ELM street,
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01:47:03.260 --> 01:47:06.619
I would say, either nightmare and
industry and or screen. Okay,
1603
01:47:06.659 --> 01:47:10.899
because they're in being ready to do
another screen film. Yeah, I just
1604
01:47:11.060 --> 01:47:15.060
recently watched all of those. So
their scream apparently also ruined the horror genre
1605
01:47:15.140 --> 01:47:18.170
for a while. Actually, I
would say scream brought it back out of
1606
01:47:18.170 --> 01:47:23.449
back. Yes, because it was. It was. It's kind of in
1607
01:47:23.569 --> 01:47:28.369
that same Venus cabin in the woods
where you got like them, the more
1608
01:47:28.569 --> 01:47:33.000
parody. But it's very selfaware.
I actually really, really like how they
1609
01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:36.159
break everything down for you, like
these are the rules of horror movies.
1610
01:47:36.520 --> 01:47:39.880
And then and then, yeah,
second one. They're like, oh well,
1611
01:47:39.960 --> 01:47:43.119
the sequel will do this. Yeah, we're very selfaware, right.
1612
01:47:43.199 --> 01:47:47.350
But they also gave so they did
reinvigorate the horror genre, but they also
1613
01:47:47.430 --> 01:47:53.189
gave rise to the whole scary movie
and all those, yes, I think,
1614
01:47:53.270 --> 01:47:57.029
really trash. Well, I heard
movies, so I've never seen any
1615
01:47:57.149 --> 01:48:01.500
of the scary movies, but I
find it interesting that someone thought it was
1616
01:48:01.539 --> 01:48:06.060
a good idea to have a parody
movie about a movie that parodies horror movies.
1617
01:48:06.140 --> 01:48:10.140
Right, it's like that's kind of
interesting, also weird, but,
1618
01:48:10.260 --> 01:48:14.329
you know, little too far removed. Yeah, I mean personally I thought
1619
01:48:14.329 --> 01:48:18.170
all the screen films were hilarious anyway. But yeah, I would say we
1620
01:48:18.289 --> 01:48:21.250
have noticeably avoided West Craven. So
I think that, I mean not intentionally,
1621
01:48:21.409 --> 01:48:24.529
not not, not, not intentionally, but I think, you know,
1622
01:48:24.850 --> 01:48:27.319
his stuff is definitely worth why?
I will say I don't think I
1623
01:48:27.680 --> 01:48:30.279
will I care to watch any of
the SAWS or hostil any of that.
1624
01:48:30.319 --> 01:48:33.640
I know I'm so no. I
personally can't watch stuff like that. So
1625
01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:38.760
I like don't want to watch it. But then I have in college eied
1626
01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:44.069
a roommate that Halloween was her favorite
holiday and so she definitely just had horror
1627
01:48:44.109 --> 01:48:47.510
movies playing constantly during the month of
October and at one point it was all
1628
01:48:47.949 --> 01:48:51.229
of the Sol movies and while I
was trying to sit on my bed doing
1629
01:48:51.350 --> 01:48:57.020
homework, let's be real, I
could not focus on it at all and
1630
01:48:57.100 --> 01:49:00.140
I ended up watching them. How
do you guys feel about like, I
1631
01:49:00.220 --> 01:49:04.979
don't know, sinister or the conjuring
or like activity? I was like that
1632
01:49:05.100 --> 01:49:11.010
I've never actually seen any of the
conjuring movies except the non and okay.
1633
01:49:11.250 --> 01:49:15.050
Yeah, and I think I've only
seen the conjury. I'm it actually made
1634
01:49:15.090 --> 01:49:18.689
me interested to go back and watch
those just because I know the people they're
1635
01:49:18.729 --> 01:49:24.880
based on are real people. That's
also they're also the people who kind of
1636
01:49:24.920 --> 01:49:30.399
did be Amityville horror, did the
whole thing that the Amitieville horror would have.
1637
01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:32.600
What is that that film is based
on? But I think that's interesting.
1638
01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:35.760
I think that gives an interesting aspect. I've never seen any the paranormal
1639
01:49:35.800 --> 01:49:40.109
activity. I have an ether films, but are aren't they like they're they're
1640
01:49:40.109 --> 01:49:43.270
kind of like sound footage stuff,
right. So, yeah, a lot
1641
01:49:43.310 --> 01:49:45.789
of them are. A paranormal was
as well. I know apparently, apparently
1642
01:49:46.550 --> 01:49:48.789
IUS I heard it. I was
look to a podcast that was talking about
1643
01:49:48.909 --> 01:49:54.260
paranormal activity. Apparently there's a movie
called paranormal entity. It is a different
1644
01:49:54.340 --> 01:49:58.220
movie and a much, much worse
movie that you should not watch, not
1645
01:49:58.739 --> 01:50:00.619
because the guy was like people was
trying to talk about with a friend was
1646
01:50:00.659 --> 01:50:04.140
like, yeah, I just thought
that this one was one scene was like
1647
01:50:04.220 --> 01:50:06.770
two of the top and nasty and
like that didn't happen in the movie.
1648
01:50:10.090 --> 01:50:15.529
Look, what did I watch?
I personally really like sinister. Okay,
1649
01:50:15.010 --> 01:50:18.289
I'M NOT gonna U it's a I
don't like her. To me, I
1650
01:50:18.369 --> 01:50:21.479
really don't know anything other than what
you just described it. I think we
1651
01:50:21.520 --> 01:50:26.399
should watch the wicker man. No, no, no, the Nicholas Cage
1652
01:50:26.439 --> 01:50:29.439
wicker man. Okay, I have
seen both the original and the new one
1653
01:50:29.479 --> 01:50:32.000
and I wanted to know to boats. I really want to watch. What
1654
01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:36.550
about like a page wicker man?
I mean in these would be longer things,
1655
01:50:36.590 --> 01:50:40.869
but would we ever want to incorporate
like haunting it hill house, or
1656
01:50:41.510 --> 01:50:45.029
like a series, like the series
or the Hunting at Hill House movie?
1657
01:50:45.350 --> 01:50:47.029
was there is a move? There's
a movie there. I think there's two.
1658
01:50:47.149 --> 01:50:51.539
So you meant the series, the
new series that I have not watched,
1659
01:50:51.699 --> 01:50:55.659
but I've heard, fear, very
good things. Yes, I watched
1660
01:50:55.739 --> 01:51:00.260
haunting of Hill House and I've currently
watching haunting a blind manner, or Hank
1661
01:51:00.300 --> 01:51:01.939
Hill. He just wanted to sell
propane and propan accessories and now it's got
1662
01:51:01.979 --> 01:51:05.850
goes. You know, I would
be like that, well, goes better
1663
01:51:05.890 --> 01:51:09.890
get on my house. Tell you
what. So I tend to lean more
1664
01:51:10.010 --> 01:51:13.329
towards like classic horror. I've got
a big gap in like the s of
1665
01:51:13.369 --> 01:51:15.529
the S R stuff. I mean
this kind of helped a little bit,
1666
01:51:16.010 --> 01:51:19.119
right. Have Y'all ever watched any
of David Kronenberg's work? I want to
1667
01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:21.840
watch the thing. Let's put the
thing on there. That's John Harper,
1668
01:51:23.039 --> 01:51:26.359
right, but it's very quotumber.
Guess which one's the thing that I've definitely
1669
01:51:26.359 --> 01:51:30.399
seen. Antarctica. SHAPESHIFTER it's basically
among us. The movie. Yeah,
1670
01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:32.390
it's really good, but it yeah, one point the things sprouts legs and
1671
01:51:32.510 --> 01:51:35.949
it looks like a spider. I'm
not a fan. Yeah, again,
1672
01:51:36.069 --> 01:51:40.149
spiders get me, dudes. So
we should not watch eight legged freaks.
1673
01:51:40.270 --> 01:51:44.869
Got It. What the ha ha. That's a movie that came out when
1674
01:51:44.909 --> 01:51:47.140
I was like in the Middle School, in high school. Maybe I've never
1675
01:51:47.260 --> 01:51:50.659
seen it, but that's all I
think about whenever you talk about how you
1676
01:51:51.060 --> 01:51:58.340
actually this is literally Sarah's reaction when
you said that maybe we should watch rolls
1677
01:51:58.380 --> 01:52:01.609
too. So those troll movies are
supposed to be really funny. Yeah,
1678
01:52:01.770 --> 01:52:06.409
that, this is. This is
this is so it's like that. It's
1679
01:52:06.449 --> 01:52:11.449
like trolls that like turn people into
vegetables and eat them, like they turned.
1680
01:52:12.130 --> 01:52:16.600
And so this guy was watching like
gooey green plant stuff, not like
1681
01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:21.439
like how you turned into into Brussel
sprout suck a. They watch me.
1682
01:52:21.720 --> 01:52:29.279
Spills started. Oh that got dark. But but literally it's got some of
1683
01:52:29.319 --> 01:52:32.350
the worst acting ever. So they're
like they turn this girl into a into
1684
01:52:32.590 --> 01:52:36.590
plant motion, they're eating her.
This guy's watching it says they ate her
1685
01:52:38.229 --> 01:52:44.819
and then they're going to eat me. I just like shaking his head as
1686
01:52:44.819 --> 01:52:48.220
it zooms into his face slowly.
It's is it because they're like vegetarian that
1687
01:52:48.260 --> 01:52:51.779
they feel better about themselves? I
can hear you into their vegetarian trolls.
1688
01:52:51.819 --> 01:52:55.020
So they turn you into a plant
before they e I think I could be
1689
01:52:55.100 --> 01:52:59.050
wrong on that point. But so
do you really vegetarian? So so good
1690
01:52:59.090 --> 01:53:03.210
question. Apparently so Christian singer Songwriter
Andrew Peterson, a few years ago,
1691
01:53:03.529 --> 01:53:06.090
when he was doing his behold the
lamb of God tour, which is this
1692
01:53:06.130 --> 01:53:10.609
Christmas tour they does every year with
a bunch of different artists, apparently became
1693
01:53:10.649 --> 01:53:14.199
a thing on the tour bus to
watch and Rewatch troll too, and they
1694
01:53:14.239 --> 01:53:17.079
kept tweeting about how they were watching
troll to again on the tour bus and
1695
01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:21.960
the at the guy who is the
troll and troll to tweeted them and showed
1696
01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.680
up to their shot and so they
got to meet him. This was like
1697
01:53:26.800 --> 01:53:30.949
maybe twenty eleven, two thousand and
twelve, I. But yeah, it
1698
01:53:31.109 --> 01:53:35.029
was really fun. That's pretty it's
pretty cool. Yeah, I but I
1699
01:53:35.149 --> 01:53:40.229
was bringing up David Cronenberg because David
Cronenberg is the king of body horror,
1700
01:53:40.430 --> 01:53:44.619
right, but he is not.
Did he do Um of the society?
1701
01:53:44.699 --> 01:53:47.180
Did He do society? Um,
I'm not sure. That had some weird
1702
01:53:47.300 --> 01:53:50.260
that has like a weird scene where
like a bunch of bodies just like fuse
1703
01:53:50.340 --> 01:53:56.210
together. It might have been like
a screaming Matt George thing. The Society's
1704
01:53:56.289 --> 01:53:58.689
name of the film that you're talking
about? It's called, I think it's
1705
01:53:58.689 --> 01:54:00.689
just called society. Oh, just
society. Hope, please. I will
1706
01:54:00.729 --> 01:54:05.529
look. But the really the reason
I bring up David Kronenberg is because,
1707
01:54:05.970 --> 01:54:10.520
yes, he is the king of
body horror, but his the way he
1708
01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:16.119
uses for and disturbing body horror images, it actually serves a narrative functions.
1709
01:54:16.199 --> 01:54:19.920
I actually think his work is very
interesting because of that. Know that director
1710
01:54:20.079 --> 01:54:23.600
was Brian. Yes, no,
he's not yet. He's. No,
1711
01:54:23.720 --> 01:54:28.069
sorry, you did re animator maybe. Oh, I watched re animator somewhat
1712
01:54:28.109 --> 01:54:30.909
recently, and I mean I get
why people like it, but it was
1713
01:54:30.029 --> 01:54:33.109
definitely not my pretty it was not
for me. So what did Cronenberg do?
1714
01:54:33.430 --> 01:54:41.380
So Cronenberg, he is probably best
known for scanners and Oh yeah,
1715
01:54:41.699 --> 01:54:44.340
where the duke head explodes. Yes, and they literally like got a watermelon
1716
01:54:44.500 --> 01:54:46.140
shot at with shotgun. Yeah,
I mean I've seen that scene. It's
1717
01:54:46.140 --> 01:54:49.619
kind of iconic. They took a
watermelon and like covered it with up like
1718
01:54:49.739 --> 01:54:54.890
a mission impossible to skin mask thing
but looks like an old dudes head,
1719
01:54:55.170 --> 01:54:58.010
and they literally took a shotgun and
shot it in the back, like where
1720
01:54:58.050 --> 01:55:00.529
the back of the head would be, and so the watermelon just explode.
1721
01:55:00.569 --> 01:55:02.489
So those dudes head, it looks
like a dude's head just completely exploded.
1722
01:55:02.529 --> 01:55:05.609
Yeah, it's kind that it's kind
of the scene he's most infamous for,
1723
01:55:06.130 --> 01:55:11.520
but scanners actually is probably the least
body horror of all that his films.
1724
01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:15.119
Ironically enough, videodrome is there the
one he's probably best known for. It's
1725
01:55:15.159 --> 01:55:18.319
a really interesting like cyberpunk type film. I think his work is really fascinating
1726
01:55:18.359 --> 01:55:21.069
and the main reason that he kind
of came on my radar is because scanners
1727
01:55:21.109 --> 01:55:25.229
is one of the films that strangers
things draws from. Yeah, so the
1728
01:55:25.350 --> 01:55:30.069
the whole nosebleed thing when eleven uses
her powers in scanners. The people who
1729
01:55:30.109 --> 01:55:32.350
get who get scanned. So they, the scanners, are people who have
1730
01:55:32.510 --> 01:55:36.340
power similar to eleven. It's not
necessarily they can move stuff with their mind,
1731
01:55:36.380 --> 01:55:39.979
but you can like they can like
kind of blow people's heads up.
1732
01:55:39.979 --> 01:55:44.579
Yeah, that's absolutely if somebody starts
scanning you, your no starts bleeding and
1733
01:55:44.859 --> 01:55:47.859
and there's there is a scene towards
the end of scanners that is mirrored in
1734
01:55:48.460 --> 01:55:51.369
the first season of stranger things where
they're having the face off in the middle
1735
01:55:51.369 --> 01:55:58.170
school between Dr Brenner and his man
and the dimmig organ right where they're kind
1736
01:55:58.170 --> 01:56:00.810
of stuck in the middle of all
of that. That that scene is as
1737
01:56:01.329 --> 01:56:04.239
straight out of scanners. Nice,
all right. So, so we got
1738
01:56:04.279 --> 01:56:09.600
some more stuff on. So so
I would recommend Crona bird with a grain
1739
01:56:09.640 --> 01:56:12.000
of salt, but if we were
going to watch a Kronerberg film, I
1740
01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:14.720
would probably say scanners. Yeah,
but I think, I think of the
1741
01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:16.399
ones we watched, I don't know
if I could choose between us and candy
1742
01:56:16.399 --> 01:56:18.829
make, because they did they were
very different movies. Yeah, I like
1743
01:56:18.949 --> 01:56:21.750
them both, ball great, great
films. A lot for the score.
1744
01:56:23.390 --> 01:56:25.670
I mean I did like, I
really do like the US original, but
1745
01:56:25.750 --> 01:56:28.390
man, that Philip Glass for it's
just it's awesome. I could go I
1746
01:56:28.430 --> 01:56:31.229
could just listen to that. It's
yeah, that's some that's some good music.
1747
01:56:31.470 --> 01:56:35.539
Spoiler. Aler candy man and US
show up on my Halloween Party playlist.
1748
01:56:38.460 --> 01:56:41.340
He's lying. It's literally just bookie
scary skeletons over and over again on
1749
01:56:41.460 --> 01:56:44.779
loop. That's the thing. Away. How old already does that like song
1750
01:56:44.939 --> 01:56:48.250
come up? Uh No, this
is like seven and a half hours long.
1751
01:56:48.449 --> 01:56:51.609
We're probably having a really low chance
of getting to that, and that's
1752
01:56:51.649 --> 01:56:56.250
the only song from us I put
on there. Okay, yeah, mwam
1753
01:56:56.729 --> 01:57:00.600
right. Do we know me and
we know my luck. Let's be real.
1754
01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:05.960
It Hang, it's gonna have this
on like porny drink and I just
1755
01:57:06.039 --> 01:57:10.720
like drop it. Okay, and
then it gets to the percussion part and
1756
01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:17.869
I'm like all right, all right, and we got over two hours.
1757
01:57:18.270 --> 01:57:23.229
Let's go ahead and wrap this bad
boy up. Sarah Ashley, thank you
1758
01:57:23.350 --> 01:57:27.430
for joining me. Yeah, and
watching these movies. Sarah, would you
1759
01:57:27.470 --> 01:57:30.300
like to give people information so they
can contact you, or do you care?
1760
01:57:30.739 --> 01:57:31.899
No one actually listens to the show, so no one's actually going to
1761
01:57:31.939 --> 01:57:36.500
contact or what kind of information do
you give twitter? Do you tweet or
1762
01:57:36.579 --> 01:57:42.699
instect? I have a twitter,
but I don't know the last time I
1763
01:57:42.939 --> 01:57:49.329
used it. Perfect. If you
want to sponsor Sarah and support her.
1764
01:57:49.729 --> 01:57:53.850
Yeah, as I work for a
church, please disregard the fact that I
1765
01:57:53.930 --> 01:57:57.409
said fought many times. If edited, they won't know what you said.
1766
01:57:57.609 --> 01:58:01.439
Perspective, we get to say the
occasional swear word. I'm definitely not just
1767
01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:04.520
gonna just gonna go in and Amplihi. So please destroy every time I said
1768
01:58:09.479 --> 01:58:12.800
I mean, if you want to
follow me on Instagram, I am Sara
1769
01:58:12.909 --> 01:58:18.149
Bear Dot Henry. So Sa r
Beaar Henry you like. My twitter is
1770
01:58:18.229 --> 01:58:30.100
honestly, probably similar to potentially I
am also hank. I was referred to
1771
01:58:30.140 --> 01:58:35.500
as Hank many times. Yeah,
just to be cleared during this, you
1772
01:58:35.579 --> 01:58:38.899
know what my last name is,
Thomas. Nobody calls me Tom So.
1773
01:58:41.100 --> 01:58:44.850
I'm sorry for you know, it's
fine. That's fine. I just think
1774
01:58:44.930 --> 01:58:47.529
find it a music. Anyway,
if you want to get in touch with
1775
01:58:47.609 --> 01:58:50.970
me, you can tweet me at
the nerdy blogger. You can like my
1776
01:58:51.010 --> 01:58:57.359
facebook page at facebookcom the nerdy blogger. You can read my blog nerdy blogging
1777
01:58:57.640 --> 01:59:01.479
dot wordpresscom. You can also follow
my work on Fang Girl ishcom, where
1778
01:59:01.600 --> 01:59:05.960
I have a weekly column called way
back Wednesday, where review one retro film
1779
01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:10.470
a week. I'm also covering star
Direk, discovery and the Mandalorian this year,
1780
01:59:10.630 --> 01:59:15.869
so tune in for mine. That's
next Friday. My Gosh, week
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from today. We going to be
freaking out. All right. You can
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also read my work and hear me
on Pop Culture Retro Ramacom. I'm also
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regular contributed to Pop Culture Ritro Rama
podcast. I am just at Holy Goalm
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but I also have a cooking show
on Youtube, the K V kitchen chemists.
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Check us out on Facebook, facebookcom
group the kitchen chemist. We have
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twitter, we have instad we have
emails. Are All kitchen chemists, like
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all it's like kitchen insteads kitchen chemist. Y Tea twitter is kitchen chem yta
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email is the real kitchen chemist at
Gmail. But yeah, we we just
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got an episode going up tomorrow as
of our recording of the pringles, which
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is a lot of fun. It
was edited by the intern, so there's
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some little it's a little cuddy,
which I find find it amusing. Yeah,
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it has its own charm, which
is like people what it's given how
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much salt we were in taking.
It makes a lot of sense. I
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found my twitter. You have your
twitter. What is twitter? Is at
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Henry Sera bear at. Also,
for all you young folks, you can
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find me on Ticktock, at Hank
from link. I'm sorry, Pick Tock.
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know. M Your Two oh so
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isn't Kay. That's a LA IN
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see, because I'm from Lank Lancaster, Pennsylvania. They'll don't need to know
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this much of information about me.
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her half hillbuilding in thanks case,
Amish. Yes, I can see me
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do random crazy dances and some things
like that on tick tock. All right,
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we link. Well, don't worry, bouts back no time. So
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until next time, we got your
Brown bye. I'm blaming this whole thing
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on you. Happy Alloween, I
know you love light. When my eyes
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and height, my mom stole from
because rise and suddenly, to my surprise,
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he did the MOMS to my it
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fly my local Tory in the cars, these bedroom of Autosul came from the
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humble of boat to catch up Joe
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