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Well, it has been Just about a week just under
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a week since we heard the news since the world
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Broke out of their workday took a look at their
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stream of messages from friends or people you
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haven't heard from in a long time and we We all
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heard on Tuesday last week the 22nd of the passing
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of Ozzy Osbourne an icon and not just heavy metal
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music but in pop culture The likes of which we've
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never seen and may never see again This show
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obviously being Dan time is primarily me as You
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know, I probably said it way too many times for
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those active listeners But it's usually me and
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the person on the other end of the line is another
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Dan or we're talking about some Dan theme, but
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You've noticed on occasion. I Bring in extensions
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of either my family or something that I'm interested
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in. And it just felt right. I think we've all
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needed somebody to talk to or share memories
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or shoot a few text messages back and forth over
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the past week of and process how we're feeling.
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And this is first and foremost on my mind, my
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brother and somebody that you just might remember
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from a few Dan time episodes in the past. He's
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coming up on his third annual Halloween bonus
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episode, which of course he will be featured
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once again It's a tradition now also a July 4th
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bonus episode Rob's beach vacation theme and
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Who could forget a? rundown of the top glam metal
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albums from 1989 My brother and a former musician
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himself Front man for a death metal band, Impalement.
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Guitar player and someone that I've jammed with
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over the years. My brother Rob McArdle. Rob,
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how are you doing today? I am doing pretty good
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now that I'm off work. It was rough getting out
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of bed this morning, tired, but feeling good.
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It's more of a challenge in the summertime, especially.
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Seems to be. Yeah, and you know, with what I
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do driving the truck, yeah, the heat just really
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gets to you and... You're still trying to recover
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from the weekend. So Mondays are always tough,
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but Monday nights are usually, usually pretty
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good because you got that, you got the hard part
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past you. Right. Well, you just let the week
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go and get ready for the weekend. Well, you've
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always been someone who, as my older brother,
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who I've looked up to as someone who can roll
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through the punches and just deal and just process
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it and deal with it and do the best that you
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can. And, you know, this past week, I think we're
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so used to, Robert, wouldn't you agree that in
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the technology age, and if you have a bunch of
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alerts going off on your phone all the time,
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you get all of these updates, you know, someone
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died, someone, you hear about the conflicts around
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the world, the famine in parts of the world,
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you hear about the political stuff, you hear
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about all the headlines, just sports and news,
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and it's just, Almost I was talking to somebody
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today about the information overload and you
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just you desensitize to a lot of stuff But how
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did you react? When you saw Ozzy Osbourne dead
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at 76 I was taking a bag just in that split second,
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but then you know as the I guess the seconds
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and the minutes Rolled on it. It was like, you
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know what? That makes sense, you know, cuz I
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watched the show or what I could see on YouTube
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He sounded great, but he didn't look good and
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You know, I got the impression from watching
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it that his days are probably numbered and it
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seems to be like he knew that and I was gonna
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do this show and go out on high note what you
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did, but Still, you know Sometimes you think
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some people are gonna live forever And of course
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nobody does. So I just, you know, as the days
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went on, you know, I would check for updates,
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see other people's reactions to it. And then
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on the weekend, I had my own little Oz Fest and,
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you know, hearing a few songs and stuff, I did
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get a little bit, little tears in the eyes. So
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it was, it did hit me a little bit harder than
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I thought it would. Oh, it's impossible not to.
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Lot of these songs in the catalog. I don't know
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if the same is true with you, but I Haven't gone
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back and listened to road to nowhere. See you
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on the other side Of course mama. I'm coming
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home in some cases Robert in maybe it's been
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12 years. Maybe it's been 16 years maybe Maybe
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there was a one -off spin about eight or nine
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years ago or something like that But some of
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these songs I really haven't listened to on an
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emotional level in right possibly a couple decades
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or close to it and you're right when I've gone
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back and We hear about people in music passing
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away and you usually start thinking about if
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you knew their catalog Okay. Well, what was you
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know, I know about three or four or maybe ten
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songs that were Right up there and you just you
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go back to it you play it and you reconnect and
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it was Like you said for me very powerful reconnecting
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with some of these songs that I had quite frankly
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put on the shelf and It was almost comforting
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to hear on various platforms that You know metalhead
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saying or even just non metalheads, you know
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rock fans. I shed some tears listening to these
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songs. I think part of that is listening to Ozzy
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all week and you hear how masterful he was at
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conveying emotion with his vocals. Absolutely.
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He, very unique sounding, you know, maybe not
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all of his songs, you know, had a strong message,
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but the ones that did, my God. As you said, you
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know, Ozzy's music always finds its way into
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my weekend playlist, but usually it's just a
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song or two and then you move on to something
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else. But then going back and pulling out. Mama,
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I'm coming home and see you on the other side
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this weekend You kind of forget how great and
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powerful those songs are Road to nowhere has
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always been one of my favorites and and it creeps
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into the weekend playlist quite a bit But then
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I remember that song in particular Robert Road
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to nowhere going back into the deeper catalog
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And be like, oh man, I forgot about this one
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It's it's it's a loss Yeah road to nowhere Remember
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you and I particularly have some intertwined
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memories where we were we were there at the same
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time on the same Friday night in front of the
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stereo Blasting songs like of course, I don't
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know crazy train No more tears desire and road
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to nowhere was one. I remember you and I would
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connect on it'd be playing and we'd be making
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the The brotherly eye contact and you're getting
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into the song i'm getting getting into the song
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we would occasionally Maybe a little bit of a
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little bit of booze involved. We would do the
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back -to -back air guitar Yeah, i'd mimic some
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of the zac guitar solos, but Yeah, you know the
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like lyrics to road to nowhere Desire like I
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was looking back on my life and all the things
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i've come to be I'm still searching for the answers
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I'm still looking for the key. Some of the lyrics
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are kind of straightforward kind of basic Yeah,
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but nobody but Ozzy could Just put that that
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Ozzy a pixie dust on it and make it so spectacular
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and so He just has that has that timeless quality
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to his vocals Yeah, I was um, I was watching
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the video for road to nowhere over the weekend
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and kind of remembering that time when no more
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tears album came out and Ozzy is planning to
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retire you know it's called the no more tours
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tour and watching the video and watching him
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look at video clips of him through the years
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and thinking at the time the guy was only like
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43 or 44 years old right and and i was thinking
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at the time i was 13 yeah i was like yeah he's
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had a good run he's been around a long time Yeah.
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You know, but yeah, you got, you know, now guys,
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a lot of the hair metal and the metal, they're
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all in their sixties and a lot of them have either
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said they're going to retire and come back out
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or just didn't retire and they're still going
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strong. So I always thought that was kind of
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a little interesting to think about. Robert,
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going back to what you were saying about the
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performance at back to the beginning not even
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three weeks Prior to his passing and how he seemed
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and I agree if you watch the video watch the
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performances of any of those songs He's just
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got that Look in his eye or he's got the presence
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that that just conveys. I'm I'm not long for
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this this world you know, he seemed very very
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moved and It seemed like he wanted to just do
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the best he possibly could for that performance
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and save it all up for that last curtain call.
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Yeah, God, what a way to go out. I mean, I can't
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think of any better way. And I can't think of
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any other musician that has just gone out on
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top like that. Yeah, honestly, because there
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are a lot of a lot of artists, frontman in particular.
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They're seeing that and thinking, that's what
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I want. I was thinking about that today, that
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Are we going to see some manufactured version
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of that with some other band and front man that
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wants the same legendary send off? I don't think
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it can be done again because also you would have
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to kind of agree to die shortly after that as
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well for it to be wrapped up the same way. I
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can't. I just I can't imagine. I mean, I don't
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know that we really have any elder statesmen
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of of metal anymore everybody's kind of in a
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band you know kids have their retirement tour
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maybe if metallica decides to do something and
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actually sticks with uh retiring maybe they could
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have a big show like that where a bunch of bands
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come out and play a couple metallica songs and
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then play some of their own stuff and then metallica
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comes out and plays a set but i don't think you
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could do it yeah i agree um now Let's talk about
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something that we were agreeing on. You've got
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your Black Sabbath Ozzy fans and your Ozzy solo
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era Ozzy fans, and then you got people that kind
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of like a little bit of everything, or maybe
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some people that want to have it all. If we're
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being honest with ourselves, Robert, you and
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I are, we are squarely in that Ozzy solo era.
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Now we like, we can pick out the Black Sabbath
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era songs that we do enjoy. But when we were
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in our early 20s, we were blasting Blizzard of
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Oz, Diary of a Madman, No Rest for the Wicked,
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and so on and so on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I
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like a lot of Ozier and Sabbath. Although to
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me, a lot of it is very overplayed. You know,
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I don't I don't listen to Iron Man and Paranoid
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anymore. But there's some deep tracks that are
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pretty good. But I am, you know, I know this
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might be blasphemy to some people, but I am more
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of a Dio. uh Sabbath guy but um yeah Ozzy solo
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stuff i mean i'm i'm just i'm all over that i
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think it's it's kind of similar to where you've
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got people who maybe over the past decade or
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so or longer who've gotten back into vinyl records
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and collecting vinyl maybe they never did maybe
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they used to and they're you're back into that
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hobby i appreciate that but i was i was a CD
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guy i'm not trying to be a vinyl guy i'm i'm
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a CD guy i'm an ozzie solo car very much so yeah
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i love the compact disc and the liner notes and
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the jewel case and the way it opens and it clicks
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shut and you still have that in your car i mean
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even riding with you you know over the last couple
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years when i'm down uh in your neck of the woods
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there's the cd let's put in a cd you know just
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like something's so cool about When you You pick
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out a CD which you don't really have to do this
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anymore because you can and I most the time yes
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I'm just listening on Spotify or Apple music,
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but you know to grab that copy of corrosion of
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conformity wise blood and it's It's the one that
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I bought in 1999 or what? 2000 or something.
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It's the same jewel case. So it's kind of scratched
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on the outside The liner notes are crinkled where
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I've read them before open the whole thing up
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and full all of that stuff. That's the whole
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Part of the enjoyment. I probably over explained
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it. Yeah But where was I going with this? Yeah,
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so I agree with you and And honestly, it's not
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Very popular to like Sharon Osborne, but you
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have to appreciate what she was able to accomplish
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in prolonging Ozzy's life by no joke, probably
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about 40 years. That might be a conservative
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figure. Yeah. Well, I mean, he was, I mean, he
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was living in some rundown apartment and she
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goes in there and there's beer cans and drug
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paraphernalia and pizza boxes all over the place.
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I mean, he's going to drink himself to death.
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Yeah. And then convinces him to get it together,
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put together a band. And we've seen what what
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happened since. Just all the great music that
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he's he's given us Yeah, so if not for Sharon
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coming into his life Maybe the last recorded
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music Ozzy is a part of is something like technical
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ecstasy Probably so there's no Blizzard of Oz.
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There's no solo career. There's no Sabbath reunion
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and then black Sabbath Who knows what happens?
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They may not they probably just don't Maybe you
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know, maybe in some way they they are still heralded
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in this decade, you know in the 2020s in some
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similar fashion, but Probably not quite the same
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No, because I mean obviously they would have
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done their stuff with DO and then you know Ian
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Gillen and Tony Martin and then back together
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with DO to do dehumanizer but they probably would
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have you know when when grunge happened they
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would have fizzled out and disappeared and they'd
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probably end up playing the state fair. Yeah.
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Going forward. The critical part of all this
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was protecting Ozzy and preserving Ozzy. And
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that was accomplished when it very nearly could
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have all fallen apart. Yeah. And also could you
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imagine if, if Ozzy something happens in the
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early eighties, you know, he does get his solo
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career off the ground, but relapses or something,
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and then he dies back then, and just how he's
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perceived now versus how it all was finalized.
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I mean, he is, there's people well outside of
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our community, anywhere from respect Ozzy, admire
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him, maybe don't love the music, but you know,
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the Osborne show, I watched a little bit of it,
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but I think that helped to humanize him. to a
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degree yes it did well what would you go back
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robert and i remember i was thinking all the
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stuff that you think about when something like
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this goes on for the past week i remember your
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bedroom back when we were teenagers and the posters
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that you had on the wall wasn't there a a poster
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of the osman cometh maybe like a promotional
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poster you had some kind of ozzie poster yes
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yeah it was that Remember that cross Yeah, I
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don't remember what happened to it. I think I
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also had a t -shirt of that as well. I wish I
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had more Ozzy posters Yeah, and then when I'm
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15 years old and you're 16 you've got that the
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first car the white Oldsmobile Yeah, and I remember
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a very specific CDs that were in rotation. There
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was the offspring there was typo negative there
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was Slayer there was it was actually a pretty
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decent variety there was the really hard stuff
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there was um a little bit of jackal in the mix
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yeah but uh but i remember osmosis probably would
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have been played back then that was in there
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no more tears i remember hearing like like perry
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mason we're just really loving the way that album
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started out with perry mason It's a weird album.
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I like the album, but it's it's it's odd because
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Perry Mason was the first single I believe that
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was released. I think this is great. It's gonna
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be heavy. Yeah And then you play the album and
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it's a lot of balance on it and they're good
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balance But really Perry Mason and my Jekyll
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doesn't hide. I mean are the two Rockers on that
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album. Everything else is kind of a balader or
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mid -tempo But it's good. It's a good album nonetheless,
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and it's one that I've I listen to a good bit
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When you come back to something like old LA tonight
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Give me your thoughts on that one. I Love that
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song. I don't know what it is. I mean it it comes
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out in 95 on osmosis but I mean it sounds like
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it could be an 80s song and It's I love the piano
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with I Love his his vocals Zach solo in that
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song. I was just incredibly it's one of the best
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balance I think that he's got in his catalog
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and one of one of my all -time favorite Ozzy
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songs that I have over the last year have revisited
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and it's it's made the weekend playlist quite
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a bit. Oh Just an incredible buildup. Oh Yeah,
00:20:03.569 --> 00:20:06.509
again the lyrics, you know just look into the
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future Look into my eyes and tell me everything's
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alright Tell me where we're going I'm so afraid
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cause I don't know what's going on with my life
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Tell me where we're going I'm so afraid cause
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I don't know what's going on with my life Yeah,
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just try to imagine another front man putting
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a spin on that Versus what Ozzy did and he just
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he knows how to build up to that the the chorus,
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you know those summer nights When I look in your
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eyes, I'm falling to pieces out of my mind and
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I'll never know why I'm falling to pieces Would
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love to have been in the studio when he's Ozzy
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and the engineer and the producer kicking around
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Different vocal melodies and how that happened.
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I Don't know and also why that song was never
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a single. I don't be on me Yeah, I think Harry
00:22:03.630 --> 00:22:06.829
Mason see you on the other side. I just want
00:22:06.829 --> 00:22:10.509
you Were the singles that I remember hearing
00:22:10.509 --> 00:22:14.970
on on 105 not the bear before they went completely
00:22:14.970 --> 00:22:19.150
alternative rock and quit playing anything metal.
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But I remember hearing that. Those songs were
00:22:23.069 --> 00:22:27.569
on rotation a good bit. Now, Deezer Butler plays
00:22:27.569 --> 00:22:31.630
bass on this album. Yes. What do you think? Like
00:22:31.630 --> 00:22:34.109
you said, you've added it to the weekend playlist
00:22:34.109 --> 00:22:36.430
again. But Robert, when you hear that, or I'm
00:22:36.430 --> 00:22:38.910
sorry, this is See You On The Other Side, which
00:22:38.910 --> 00:22:41.890
I've probably listened to 18 times in the past
00:22:41.890 --> 00:22:50.170
five days. But when you hear that... Yeah, I
00:22:50.170 --> 00:22:56.569
mean, it's great. And that song has a whole new
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meaning now. He played on several IgE albums
00:23:00.769 --> 00:23:03.369
if I remember. I think he might have played on
00:23:03.369 --> 00:23:08.630
one in ages. I could be wrong. And Dean Castronovo
00:23:08.630 --> 00:23:13.930
on drums in the studio. For osmosis? For osmosis.
00:23:14.410 --> 00:23:17.250
He was a member of Bad English, Hardline, and
00:23:17.250 --> 00:23:21.190
Journey. Wow. Okay, so he is a Journey member.
00:23:21.710 --> 00:23:26.789
Yeah. Yeah. That's an interesting group of musicians
00:23:26.789 --> 00:23:29.789
and kind of interesting how somebody like Ozzy
00:23:29.789 --> 00:23:32.869
will pick somebody like that. But, you know,
00:23:33.269 --> 00:23:34.710
if you know how to play the songs, then you're
00:23:34.710 --> 00:23:38.230
a musician and it's Ozzy's bad. You know, he's,
00:23:38.289 --> 00:23:39.849
he's the one that's getting all the attention.
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So I guess it doesn't really matter where the
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guitar player, the drummer or whatever come from
00:23:44.950 --> 00:23:48.769
as long as they could do the songs. Do you remember,
00:23:48.769 --> 00:23:52.369
this is pretty far into the episode to ask you
00:23:52.369 --> 00:23:55.329
when you got into Ozzy. Do you remember what
00:23:55.329 --> 00:23:58.150
year it was or was it just like the same day
00:23:58.150 --> 00:23:59.890
that you picked up a metal edge and you also
00:23:59.890 --> 00:24:04.190
got into another band or two? Yeah, it's, um,
00:24:04.269 --> 00:24:07.829
gosh, that is a good question. Because I really
00:24:07.829 --> 00:24:11.710
don't have memories that go prior to the No More
00:24:11.710 --> 00:24:14.049
Tears album. I remember you coming back home
00:24:14.049 --> 00:24:18.369
with the long box CD for No More Tears in that
00:24:18.369 --> 00:24:22.930
1991, that magical spring and summer and early
00:24:22.930 --> 00:24:27.769
fall before Nevermind hit. Yeah, I know. I guess,
00:24:27.769 --> 00:24:30.730
you know, I guess I kind of gradually came into
00:24:30.730 --> 00:24:35.029
Ozzy because, you know, he wasn't the first Artists
00:24:35.029 --> 00:24:37.529
that I started listening to I mean I was listening
00:24:37.529 --> 00:24:42.049
to Motley Crue and poison Talaka before Ozzy,
00:24:42.049 --> 00:24:45.609
but I do remember seeing when I was real young
00:24:45.609 --> 00:24:49.369
MTV I believe they were playing Something off
00:24:49.369 --> 00:24:51.329
of what is the video? What is it might be bark
00:24:51.329 --> 00:24:53.789
at the moon? I always thought it was Gary the
00:24:53.789 --> 00:24:58.230
madman But he's in he's in like some kind of
00:24:58.230 --> 00:25:01.069
old -time laboratory And I think it was the first
00:25:01.069 --> 00:25:02.789
Ozzy song I ever heard I might have been bark
00:25:02.789 --> 00:25:06.779
at the moon Yeah. And then after that, it was,
00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:09.420
it was no more tears. But then I started going
00:25:09.420 --> 00:25:11.700
back into his back catalog. I was like, Oh my
00:25:11.700 --> 00:25:16.440
God, why did I not hear this stuff before? And
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.039
I think maybe when I was a little kid, I was
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.940
kind of scared of him just because of the, the,
00:25:21.940 --> 00:25:24.940
the reputation that he had. But yeah, going back.
00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:27.440
Yes. I guess, yeah, I was around when no more
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:29.299
tears came out. I started listening to more of
00:25:29.299 --> 00:25:33.119
his back catalog and really get it into the The
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:37.339
Ultimate Sin and No Rest for the Wicked. I love
00:25:37.339 --> 00:25:40.700
The Ultimate Sin. I mean, that is hair metal
00:25:40.700 --> 00:25:43.519
Ozzy. If you listen to the sound of the album,
00:25:43.940 --> 00:25:47.839
watch the videos. I mean, he's got the teased
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.079
up hair, the makeup. Jake E. Lee is a glam guitar
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.279
player, if there ever was one, but I love that
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.440
album. Shot in the Dark, when I first heard Shot
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.000
in the Dark. But yeah, I still listen to that
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.440
song quite a bit. I know it's one of his most
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.920
well -known songs, but Shot in the Dark is still
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:09.759
one of my favorites. I'm not tired of it. Lightning
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:13.819
Strikes. Love that song. I love that. I love
00:26:13.819 --> 00:26:18.059
that chug -a -lug riff of the title track. Oh,
00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:22.400
yeah. Now, what about, and we'll get into, if
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:24.859
we have time, a top 10. Maybe we'll do a rapid
00:26:24.859 --> 00:26:29.579
fire without a lot of explanation, top 10. But,
00:26:29.980 --> 00:26:33.740
um, did you get a chance to see Ozzy live? Yes.
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.880
Uh, I was fortunate. We saw him, we saw him at
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.640
Oak Mountain Amphitheater back on the Osmosis
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:44.819
tour. It was Ozzy, Sepultura, and Typo Negative.
00:26:45.420 --> 00:26:48.059
I actually got to shake Peter Steele's hand,
00:26:48.059 --> 00:26:52.140
uh, before the show. We were kind of by the little
00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:54.160
chain link fence area and Peter just kind of
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:58.180
walks out and says hello and I shook his hand.
00:26:58.710 --> 00:27:02.309
Mean that was it. But then yeah, we saw Ozzy.
00:27:02.309 --> 00:27:04.730
This was back when they had the grass Were you
00:27:04.730 --> 00:27:06.650
wearing the were you wearing the leather jacket
00:27:06.650 --> 00:27:10.430
with the shin guard boots or the combat boots?
00:27:12.950 --> 00:27:18.230
This would have been 95 maybe 96 so it may have
00:27:18.230 --> 00:27:23.390
been the combat boots Yeah, I loved both of them
00:27:23.390 --> 00:27:25.829
I think that the other boots came into play maybe
00:27:25.829 --> 00:27:32.779
in 97 Maybe it was late 96 -97. I got to see
00:27:32.779 --> 00:27:35.980
him again at Ausfest. It was in Nashville. I
00:27:35.980 --> 00:27:40.880
want to say it was around maybe 2002 -2003 because
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.539
I think Judas Priest was on that bill and Dewey
00:27:45.539 --> 00:27:49.980
Borger, Slayer. It may have been 2003. I think
00:27:49.980 --> 00:27:53.599
Pantera had broken up by then. Yeah. I've never
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:58.170
seen Pantera live. I saw Pantera on The Ozfest
00:27:58.170 --> 00:28:02.390
tour, I believe it was 2000 in Nashville and
00:28:02.390 --> 00:28:09.190
then saw them in 2001 in July of one. Yeah. And
00:28:09.190 --> 00:28:13.150
that was it. Yeah, that's that's I guess that's
00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:16.069
the regret is I never got to see see them. I
00:28:16.069 --> 00:28:18.130
know they're coming to Birmingham, but I'm not
00:28:18.130 --> 00:28:23.769
paying on 100 plus dollars a ticket to go minutes.
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:29.039
It's not really Pantera. Yeah, this is a different
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:34.019
whole different topic, but I Have to chime in
00:28:34.019 --> 00:28:38.960
on this Going to see Metallica going to see Pantera
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.079
this version of Pantera for some of the big bands
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:46.720
like that in 2025 and You've maybe you've maybe
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.460
you've seen them before you saw them 20 years
00:28:48.460 --> 00:28:50.660
ago And you had a blast and you saw them in their
00:28:50.660 --> 00:28:56.490
prime and you spent you know $32 or maybe 50
00:28:56.490 --> 00:28:59.210
if it was part of a festival, which it was like
00:28:59.210 --> 00:29:02.430
OZFest02 was something like 55 bucks or something
00:29:02.430 --> 00:29:05.670
like that. I saw that in that text and stuff.
00:29:06.329 --> 00:29:08.309
Like fifth, wow, I mean, today it'd be, you know,
00:29:08.430 --> 00:29:12.349
200 bucks. And that's the whole day. Gates, the
00:29:12.349 --> 00:29:16.309
doors are Gates at nine 30. But Robert, it is,
00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:18.529
and you know what it's like when you go to a
00:29:18.529 --> 00:29:21.789
concert now, especially at a large venue. and
00:29:21.789 --> 00:29:25.230
you're just, you're seated around a lot of similarly
00:29:25.230 --> 00:29:29.529
aged people who we don't run around and get sweaty
00:29:29.529 --> 00:29:32.549
and drunk. We're just kind of seated with our
00:29:32.549 --> 00:29:36.329
wives and our phones. And we're just, it's not
00:29:36.329 --> 00:29:39.609
really like the same atmosphere, but not to say
00:29:39.609 --> 00:29:42.789
it's not worth it to people that can budget for
00:29:42.789 --> 00:29:47.849
this, but I don't know. I'm still drawn to vinyl
00:29:47.849 --> 00:29:50.269
music hall, going to see a band where I can stand
00:29:50.269 --> 00:29:55.160
up on the floor of a kind of a small venue. Right.
00:29:55.299 --> 00:29:58.759
And just take that in, get in, see the show,
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:02.319
get out, go home. I just feel like it's a lot,
00:30:02.500 --> 00:30:06.240
a lot of money for something that's not what
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:10.900
it once was. Right. And I mean, I don't really
00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:13.359
have any desire to go see, you know, an arena
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.119
show anymore because I'm just, I'm going to sit
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:18.819
there in my seat and just watch it. You know,
00:30:18.819 --> 00:30:22.089
something like back to the beginning. If if I
00:30:22.089 --> 00:30:23.549
could have made that happen could have gotten
00:30:23.549 --> 00:30:26.210
out there and gotten a ticket. I'm sure I would
00:30:26.210 --> 00:30:30.950
have had a blast Possibly I want to say that
00:30:30.950 --> 00:30:33.910
I would have liked to go under that but I'm just
00:30:33.910 --> 00:30:35.569
afraid that I would have gotten there with the
00:30:35.569 --> 00:30:39.529
gates open at 1130 and by three o 'clock I'm
00:30:39.529 --> 00:30:41.869
probably thinking All right, my feet are tired.
00:30:41.869 --> 00:30:44.609
My legs are tired. I want to sit down. I want
00:30:44.609 --> 00:30:47.410
something to eat I don't want a $30 hamburger
00:30:47.410 --> 00:30:51.220
and I'm probably like thinking I want to go home.
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.460
Well part of this going to shows at 40 something
00:30:54.460 --> 00:30:58.279
years old You know, let's not kid ourselves people
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.200
that do this. We're trying to reclaim two hours
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.920
of our youth We're trying to remember what it
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.299
was how much fun this was in 2000 or like you
00:31:07.299 --> 00:31:13.380
said the late 90s 2001 or 203 all that stuff
00:31:13.380 --> 00:31:17.740
and you just you went to those concerts in a
00:31:17.740 --> 00:31:20.539
completely different mindset. You weren't thinking
00:31:20.539 --> 00:31:24.019
about the thing that you have going on at work
00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:28.299
that's waiting for you on Monday or some leak
00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:30.500
at your house that you're waiting for the contractor
00:31:30.500 --> 00:31:32.579
to call you back, but you're gonna go try to
00:31:32.579 --> 00:31:36.359
enjoy this concert or you've got a child that's
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:40.900
got a situation going on and you're halfway checking
00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:43.900
out of it, but you're an adult. We're just at
00:31:43.900 --> 00:31:48.470
an age where it's not... Fuck the world. I'm
00:31:48.470 --> 00:31:51.589
you know Yeah, it's gonna be two hours of heavy
00:31:51.589 --> 00:31:54.309
metal and to an extent maybe some people can
00:31:54.309 --> 00:31:58.009
really compartmentalize and I kind of do it at
00:31:58.009 --> 00:32:00.829
the little club shows that I like to go to but
00:32:00.829 --> 00:32:02.710
I mean you're kidding yourself if you're gonna
00:32:02.710 --> 00:32:06.710
spend $200 with the parking and the the booze
00:32:06.710 --> 00:32:10.869
and the food and the babysitters and I Really
00:32:10.869 --> 00:32:13.009
hate to get off on a negative end. That's my
00:32:13.009 --> 00:32:14.730
whole take. I don't I don't spend the money.
00:32:15.230 --> 00:32:17.880
Yeah I've seen what I wanted to see back when
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.319
I wanted to see it. Yeah. And you also, you probably
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.220
have a good idea of what the set list is going
00:32:23.220 --> 00:32:27.440
to be. We went and saw Slayer several years ago
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.420
in Atlanta. It was Slayer. It was a great lineup.
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.500
It was Slayer, Testament, Anthrax, May Palm Death,
00:32:34.579 --> 00:32:38.579
and I think it was Lamb of God. But I mean, one
00:32:38.579 --> 00:32:43.720
beer was like 13 bucks. I drank one beer the
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:46.539
whole show. I was like, I could get a half a
00:32:46.539 --> 00:32:50.660
case of this for $13. Now, look, I will say this.
00:32:51.099 --> 00:32:54.259
I don't want to discourage people who are listening
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to this and they've been having a great time
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rocking out and going to shows for years and
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years, but it's just my experience. I had the
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best fun that I think I'm going to have at concerts,
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.220
you know, big venue concerts when I was in my
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20s. And with that technology was sis. It was
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just completely cut off. You're not Thinking
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about I need to check my email in another four
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minutes. I need to see what's happening on Instagram
00:33:21.579 --> 00:33:25.259
I'm you know, I need that dopamine fix and and
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let me just so you're not really all -in You're
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just not no, but I think you're also I don't
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think you're discouraging anybody. I think we
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might be telling People that it's okay to not
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want to go to the show Yeah, don't feel like
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you have like you said if priestess coming you
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don't want to go don't fucking go right if iron
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maiden came I Might consider it because I was
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once again. I've never seen them But I probably
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at the last minute be like yeah No, I'm not going
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Well, it has been Just about a week just under
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a week since we heard the news since the world
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Broke out of their workday took a look at their
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stream of messages from friends or people you
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haven't heard from in a long time and we We all
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heard on Tuesday last week the 22nd of the passing
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of Ozzy Osbourne an icon and not just heavy metal
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music but in pop culture The likes of which we've
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never seen and may never see again This show
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obviously being Dan time is primarily me as You
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know, I probably said it way too many times for
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those active listeners But it's usually me and
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the person on the other end of the line is another
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Dan or we're talking about some Dan theme, but
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You've noticed on occasion. I Bring in extensions
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of either my family or something that I'm interested
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in. And it just felt right. I think we've all
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needed somebody to talk to or share memories
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or shoot a few text messages back and forth over
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the past week of and process how we're feeling.
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And this is first and foremost on my mind, my
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brother and somebody that you just might remember
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from a few Dan time episodes in the past. He's
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coming up on his third annual Halloween bonus
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episode, which of course he will be featured
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once again It's a tradition now also a July 4th
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bonus episode Rob's beach vacation theme and
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Who could forget a? rundown of the top glam metal
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albums from 1989 My brother and a former musician
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himself Front man for a death metal band, Impalement.
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Guitar player and someone that I've jammed with
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over the years. My brother Rob McArdle. Rob,
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how are you doing today? I am doing pretty good
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now that I'm off work. It was rough getting out
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of bed this morning, tired, but feeling good.
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It's more of a challenge in the summertime, especially.
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Seems to be. Yeah, and you know, with what I
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do driving the truck, yeah, the heat just really
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gets to you and... You're still trying to recover
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from the weekend. So Mondays are always tough,
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but Monday nights are usually, usually pretty
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good because you got that, you got the hard part
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past you. Right. Well, you just let the week
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go and get ready for the weekend. Well, you've
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always been someone who, as my older brother,
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who I've looked up to as someone who can roll
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through the punches and just deal and just process
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it and deal with it and do the best that you
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can. And, you know, this past week, I think we're
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so used to, Robert, wouldn't you agree that in
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the technology age, and if you have a bunch of
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alerts going off on your phone all the time,
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you get all of these updates, you know, someone
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died, someone, you hear about the conflicts around
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the world, the famine in parts of the world,
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you hear about the political stuff, you hear
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about all the headlines, just sports and news,
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and it's just, Almost I was talking to somebody
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today about the information overload and you
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just you desensitize to a lot of stuff But how
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did you react? When you saw Ozzy Osbourne dead
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at 76 I was taking a bag just in that split second,
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but then you know as the I guess the seconds
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and the minutes Rolled on it. It was like, you
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know what? That makes sense, you know, cuz I
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watched the show or what I could see on YouTube
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He sounded great, but he didn't look good and
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You know, I got the impression from watching
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it that his days are probably numbered and it
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seems to be like he knew that and I was gonna
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do this show and go out on high note what you
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did, but Still, you know Sometimes you think
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some people are gonna live forever And of course
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nobody does. So I just, you know, as the days
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went on, you know, I would check for updates,
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see other people's reactions to it. And then
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on the weekend, I had my own little Oz Fest and,
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you know, hearing a few songs and stuff, I did
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get a little bit, little tears in the eyes. So
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it was, it did hit me a little bit harder than
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I thought it would. Oh, it's impossible not to.
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Lot of these songs in the catalog. I don't know
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if the same is true with you, but I Haven't gone
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back and listened to road to nowhere. See you
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on the other side Of course mama. I'm coming
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home in some cases Robert in maybe it's been
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12 years. Maybe it's been 16 years maybe Maybe
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there was a one -off spin about eight or nine
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years ago or something like that But some of
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these songs I really haven't listened to on an
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emotional level in right possibly a couple decades
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or close to it and you're right when I've gone
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back and We hear about people in music passing
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away and you usually start thinking about if
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you knew their catalog Okay. Well, what was you
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know, I know about three or four or maybe ten
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songs that were Right up there and you just you
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go back to it you play it and you reconnect and
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it was Like you said for me very powerful reconnecting
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with some of these songs that I had quite frankly
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put on the shelf and It was almost comforting
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to hear on various platforms that You know metalhead
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saying or even just non metalheads, you know
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rock fans. I shed some tears listening to these
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songs. I think part of that is listening to Ozzy
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all week and you hear how masterful he was at
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conveying emotion with his vocals. Absolutely.
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He, very unique sounding, you know, maybe not
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all of his songs, you know, had a strong message,
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but the ones that did, my God. As you said, you
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know, Ozzy's music always finds its way into
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my weekend playlist, but usually it's just a
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song or two and then you move on to something
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else. But then going back and pulling out. Mama,
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I'm coming home and see you on the other side
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this weekend You kind of forget how great and
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powerful those songs are Road to nowhere has
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always been one of my favorites and and it creeps
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into the weekend playlist quite a bit But then
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I remember that song in particular Robert Road
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to nowhere going back into the deeper catalog
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And be like, oh man, I forgot about this one
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It's it's it's a loss Yeah road to nowhere Remember
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you and I particularly have some intertwined
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memories where we were we were there at the same
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time on the same Friday night in front of the
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stereo Blasting songs like of course, I don't
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know crazy train No more tears desire and road
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to nowhere was one. I remember you and I would
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connect on it'd be playing and we'd be making
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the The brotherly eye contact and you're getting
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into the song i'm getting getting into the song
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we would occasionally Maybe a little bit of a
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little bit of booze involved. We would do the
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back -to -back air guitar Yeah, i'd mimic some
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of the zac guitar solos, but Yeah, you know the
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like lyrics to road to nowhere Desire like I
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was looking back on my life and all the things
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i've come to be I'm still searching for the answers
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I'm still looking for the key. Some of the lyrics
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are kind of straightforward kind of basic Yeah,
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but nobody but Ozzy could Just put that that
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Ozzy a pixie dust on it and make it so spectacular
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and so He just has that has that timeless quality
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to his vocals Yeah, I was um, I was watching
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the video for road to nowhere over the weekend
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and kind of remembering that time when no more
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tears album came out and Ozzy is planning to
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retire you know it's called the no more tours
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tour and watching the video and watching him
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look at video clips of him through the years
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and thinking at the time the guy was only like
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43 or 44 years old right and and i was thinking
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at the time i was 13 yeah i was like yeah he's
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had a good run he's been around a long time Yeah.
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You know, but yeah, you got, you know, now guys,
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a lot of the hair metal and the metal, they're
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all in their sixties and a lot of them have either
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said they're going to retire and come back out
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or just didn't retire and they're still going
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strong. So I always thought that was kind of
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a little interesting to think about. Robert,
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going back to what you were saying about the
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performance at back to the beginning not even
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three weeks Prior to his passing and how he seemed
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and I agree if you watch the video watch the
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performances of any of those songs He's just
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got that Look in his eye or he's got the presence
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that that just conveys. I'm I'm not long for
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this this world you know, he seemed very very
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moved and It seemed like he wanted to just do
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the best he possibly could for that performance
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and save it all up for that last curtain call.
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Yeah, God, what a way to go out. I mean, I can't
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think of any better way. And I can't think of
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any other musician that has just gone out on
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top like that. Yeah, honestly, because there
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are a lot of a lot of artists, frontman in particular.
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They're seeing that and thinking, that's what
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I want. I was thinking about that today, that
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Are we going to see some manufactured version
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of that with some other band and front man that
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wants the same legendary send off? I don't think
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it can be done again because also you would have
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to kind of agree to die shortly after that as
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well for it to be wrapped up the same way. I
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can't. I just I can't imagine. I mean, I don't
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know that we really have any elder statesmen
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of of metal anymore everybody's kind of in a
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band you know kids have their retirement tour
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maybe if metallica decides to do something and
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actually sticks with uh retiring maybe they could
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have a big show like that where a bunch of bands
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come out and play a couple metallica songs and
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then play some of their own stuff and then metallica
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comes out and plays a set but i don't think you
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could do it yeah i agree um now Let's talk about
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something that we were agreeing on. You've got
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your Black Sabbath Ozzy fans and your Ozzy solo
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era Ozzy fans, and then you got people that kind
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of like a little bit of everything, or maybe
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some people that want to have it all. If we're
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being honest with ourselves, Robert, you and
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I are, we are squarely in that Ozzy solo era.
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Now we like, we can pick out the Black Sabbath
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era songs that we do enjoy. But when we were
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in our early 20s, we were blasting Blizzard of
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Oz, Diary of a Madman, No Rest for the Wicked,
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and so on and so on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I
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like a lot of Ozier and Sabbath. Although to
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me, a lot of it is very overplayed. You know,
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I don't I don't listen to Iron Man and Paranoid
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anymore. But there's some deep tracks that are
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pretty good. But I am, you know, I know this
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might be blasphemy to some people, but I am more
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of a Dio. uh Sabbath guy but um yeah Ozzy solo
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stuff i mean i'm i'm just i'm all over that i
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think it's it's kind of similar to where you've
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got people who maybe over the past decade or
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so or longer who've gotten back into vinyl records
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and collecting vinyl maybe they never did maybe
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they used to and they're you're back into that
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hobby i appreciate that but i was i was a CD
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guy i'm not trying to be a vinyl guy i'm i'm
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a CD guy i'm an ozzie solo car very much so yeah
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i love the compact disc and the liner notes and
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the jewel case and the way it opens and it clicks
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shut and you still have that in your car i mean
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even riding with you you know over the last couple
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years when i'm down uh in your neck of the woods
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there's the cd let's put in a cd you know just
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like something's so cool about When you You pick
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out a CD which you don't really have to do this
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anymore because you can and I most the time yes
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I'm just listening on Spotify or Apple music,
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but you know to grab that copy of corrosion of
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conformity wise blood and it's It's the one that
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I bought in 1999 or what? 2000 or something.
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It's the same jewel case. So it's kind of scratched
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on the outside The liner notes are crinkled where
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I've read them before open the whole thing up
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and full all of that stuff. That's the whole
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Part of the enjoyment. I probably over explained
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it. Yeah But where was I going with this? Yeah,
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so I agree with you and And honestly, it's not
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Very popular to like Sharon Osborne, but you
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have to appreciate what she was able to accomplish
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in prolonging Ozzy's life by no joke, probably
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about 40 years. That might be a conservative
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figure. Yeah. Well, I mean, he was, I mean, he
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was living in some rundown apartment and she
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goes in there and there's beer cans and drug
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paraphernalia and pizza boxes all over the place.
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I mean, he's going to drink himself to death.
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Yeah. And then convinces him to get it together,
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put together a band. And we've seen what what
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happened since. Just all the great music that
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he's he's given us Yeah, so if not for Sharon
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coming into his life Maybe the last recorded
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music Ozzy is a part of is something like technical
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ecstasy Probably so there's no Blizzard of Oz.
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There's no solo career. There's no Sabbath reunion
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and then black Sabbath Who knows what happens?
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They may not they probably just don't Maybe you
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know, maybe in some way they they are still heralded
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in this decade, you know in the 2020s in some
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similar fashion, but Probably not quite the same
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No, because I mean obviously they would have
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done their stuff with DO and then you know Ian
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Gillen and Tony Martin and then back together
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with DO to do dehumanizer but they probably would
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have you know when when grunge happened they
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would have fizzled out and disappeared and they'd
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probably end up playing the state fair. Yeah.
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Going forward. The critical part of all this
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was protecting Ozzy and preserving Ozzy. And
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that was accomplished when it very nearly could
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have all fallen apart. Yeah. And also could you
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imagine if, if Ozzy something happens in the
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early eighties, you know, he does get his solo
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career off the ground, but relapses or something,
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and then he dies back then, and just how he's
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perceived now versus how it all was finalized.
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I mean, he is, there's people well outside of
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our community, anywhere from respect Ozzy, admire
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him, maybe don't love the music, but you know,
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the Osborne show, I watched a little bit of it,
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but I think that helped to humanize him. to a
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degree yes it did well what would you go back
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robert and i remember i was thinking all the
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stuff that you think about when something like
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this goes on for the past week i remember your
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bedroom back when we were teenagers and the posters
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that you had on the wall wasn't there a a poster
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of the osman cometh maybe like a promotional
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poster you had some kind of ozzie poster yes
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yeah it was that Remember that cross Yeah, I
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don't remember what happened to it. I think I
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also had a t -shirt of that as well. I wish I
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had more Ozzy posters Yeah, and then when I'm
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15 years old and you're 16 you've got that the
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first car the white Oldsmobile Yeah, and I remember
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a very specific CDs that were in rotation. There
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was the offspring there was typo negative there
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was Slayer there was it was actually a pretty
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decent variety there was the really hard stuff
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there was um a little bit of jackal in the mix
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yeah but uh but i remember osmosis probably would
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have been played back then that was in there
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no more tears i remember hearing like like perry
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mason we're just really loving the way that album
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started out with perry mason It's a weird album.
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I like the album, but it's it's it's odd because
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Perry Mason was the first single I believe that
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was released. I think this is great. It's gonna
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be heavy. Yeah And then you play the album and
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it's a lot of balance on it and they're good
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balance But really Perry Mason and my Jekyll
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doesn't hide. I mean are the two Rockers on that
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album. Everything else is kind of a balader or
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mid -tempo But it's good. It's a good album nonetheless,
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and it's one that I've I listen to a good bit
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When you come back to something like old LA tonight
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Give me your thoughts on that one. I Love that
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song. I don't know what it is. I mean it it comes
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out in 95 on osmosis but I mean it sounds like
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it could be an 80s song and It's I love the piano
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with I Love his his vocals Zach solo in that
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song. I was just incredibly it's one of the best
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balance I think that he's got in his catalog
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and one of one of my all -time favorite Ozzy
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songs that I have over the last year have revisited
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and it's it's made the weekend playlist quite
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a bit. Oh Just an incredible buildup. Oh Yeah,
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again the lyrics, you know just look into the
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future Look into my eyes and tell me everything's
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alright Tell me where we're going I'm so afraid
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cause I don't know what's going on with my life
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Tell me where we're going I'm so afraid cause
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I don't know what's going on with my life Yeah,
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just try to imagine another front man putting
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a spin on that Versus what Ozzy did and he just
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he knows how to build up to that the the chorus,
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you know those summer nights When I look in your
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eyes, I'm falling to pieces out of my mind and
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I'll never know why I'm falling to pieces Would
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love to have been in the studio when he's Ozzy
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and the engineer and the producer kicking around
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Different vocal melodies and how that happened.
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I Don't know and also why that song was never
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a single. I don't be on me Yeah, I think Harry
00:22:03.630 --> 00:22:06.829
Mason see you on the other side. I just want
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you Were the singles that I remember hearing
00:22:10.509 --> 00:22:14.970
on on 105 not the bear before they went completely
00:22:14.970 --> 00:22:19.150
alternative rock and quit playing anything metal.
00:22:20.190 --> 00:22:23.069
But I remember hearing that. Those songs were
00:22:23.069 --> 00:22:27.569
on rotation a good bit. Now, Deezer Butler plays
00:22:27.569 --> 00:22:31.630
bass on this album. Yes. What do you think? Like
00:22:31.630 --> 00:22:34.109
you said, you've added it to the weekend playlist
00:22:34.109 --> 00:22:36.430
again. But Robert, when you hear that, or I'm
00:22:36.430 --> 00:22:38.910
sorry, this is See You On The Other Side, which
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I've probably listened to 18 times in the past
00:22:41.890 --> 00:22:50.170
five days. But when you hear that... Yeah, I
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mean, it's great. And that song has a whole new
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meaning now. He played on several IgE albums
00:23:00.769 --> 00:23:03.369
if I remember. I think he might have played on
00:23:03.369 --> 00:23:08.630
one in ages. I could be wrong. And Dean Castronovo
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on drums in the studio. For osmosis? For osmosis.
00:23:14.410 --> 00:23:17.250
He was a member of Bad English, Hardline, and
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Journey. Wow. Okay, so he is a Journey member.
00:23:21.710 --> 00:23:26.789
Yeah. Yeah. That's an interesting group of musicians
00:23:26.789 --> 00:23:29.789
and kind of interesting how somebody like Ozzy
00:23:29.789 --> 00:23:32.869
will pick somebody like that. But, you know,
00:23:33.269 --> 00:23:34.710
if you know how to play the songs, then you're
00:23:34.710 --> 00:23:38.230
a musician and it's Ozzy's bad. You know, he's,
00:23:38.289 --> 00:23:39.849
he's the one that's getting all the attention.
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So I guess it doesn't really matter where the
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guitar player, the drummer or whatever come from
00:23:44.950 --> 00:23:48.769
as long as they could do the songs. Do you remember,
00:23:48.769 --> 00:23:52.369
this is pretty far into the episode to ask you
00:23:52.369 --> 00:23:55.329
when you got into Ozzy. Do you remember what
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year it was or was it just like the same day
00:23:58.150 --> 00:23:59.890
that you picked up a metal edge and you also
00:23:59.890 --> 00:24:04.190
got into another band or two? Yeah, it's, um,
00:24:04.269 --> 00:24:07.829
gosh, that is a good question. Because I really
00:24:07.829 --> 00:24:11.710
don't have memories that go prior to the No More
00:24:11.710 --> 00:24:14.049
Tears album. I remember you coming back home
00:24:14.049 --> 00:24:18.369
with the long box CD for No More Tears in that
00:24:18.369 --> 00:24:22.930
1991, that magical spring and summer and early
00:24:22.930 --> 00:24:27.769
fall before Nevermind hit. Yeah, I know. I guess,
00:24:27.769 --> 00:24:30.730
you know, I guess I kind of gradually came into
00:24:30.730 --> 00:24:35.029
Ozzy because, you know, he wasn't the first Artists
00:24:35.029 --> 00:24:37.529
that I started listening to I mean I was listening
00:24:37.529 --> 00:24:42.049
to Motley Crue and poison Talaka before Ozzy,
00:24:42.049 --> 00:24:45.609
but I do remember seeing when I was real young
00:24:45.609 --> 00:24:49.369
MTV I believe they were playing Something off
00:24:49.369 --> 00:24:51.329
of what is the video? What is it might be bark
00:24:51.329 --> 00:24:53.789
at the moon? I always thought it was Gary the
00:24:53.789 --> 00:24:58.230
madman But he's in he's in like some kind of
00:24:58.230 --> 00:25:01.069
old -time laboratory And I think it was the first
00:25:01.069 --> 00:25:02.789
Ozzy song I ever heard I might have been bark
00:25:02.789 --> 00:25:06.779
at the moon Yeah. And then after that, it was,
00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:09.420
it was no more tears. But then I started going
00:25:09.420 --> 00:25:11.700
back into his back catalog. I was like, Oh my
00:25:11.700 --> 00:25:16.440
God, why did I not hear this stuff before? And
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I think maybe when I was a little kid, I was
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.940
kind of scared of him just because of the, the,
00:25:21.940 --> 00:25:24.940
the reputation that he had. But yeah, going back.
00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:27.440
Yes. I guess, yeah, I was around when no more
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:29.299
tears came out. I started listening to more of
00:25:29.299 --> 00:25:33.119
his back catalog and really get it into the The
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:37.339
Ultimate Sin and No Rest for the Wicked. I love
00:25:37.339 --> 00:25:40.700
The Ultimate Sin. I mean, that is hair metal
00:25:40.700 --> 00:25:43.519
Ozzy. If you listen to the sound of the album,
00:25:43.940 --> 00:25:47.839
watch the videos. I mean, he's got the teased
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.079
up hair, the makeup. Jake E. Lee is a glam guitar
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.279
player, if there ever was one, but I love that
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.440
album. Shot in the Dark, when I first heard Shot
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.000
in the Dark. But yeah, I still listen to that
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.440
song quite a bit. I know it's one of his most
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.920
well -known songs, but Shot in the Dark is still
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:09.759
one of my favorites. I'm not tired of it. Lightning
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:13.819
Strikes. Love that song. I love that. I love
00:26:13.819 --> 00:26:18.059
that chug -a -lug riff of the title track. Oh,
00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:22.400
yeah. Now, what about, and we'll get into, if
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:24.859
we have time, a top 10. Maybe we'll do a rapid
00:26:24.859 --> 00:26:29.579
fire without a lot of explanation, top 10. But,
00:26:29.980 --> 00:26:33.740
um, did you get a chance to see Ozzy live? Yes.
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.880
Uh, I was fortunate. We saw him, we saw him at
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.640
Oak Mountain Amphitheater back on the Osmosis
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:44.819
tour. It was Ozzy, Sepultura, and Typo Negative.
00:26:45.420 --> 00:26:48.059
I actually got to shake Peter Steele's hand,
00:26:48.059 --> 00:26:52.140
uh, before the show. We were kind of by the little
00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:54.160
chain link fence area and Peter just kind of
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:58.180
walks out and says hello and I shook his hand.
00:26:58.710 --> 00:27:02.309
Mean that was it. But then yeah, we saw Ozzy.
00:27:02.309 --> 00:27:04.730
This was back when they had the grass Were you
00:27:04.730 --> 00:27:06.650
wearing the were you wearing the leather jacket
00:27:06.650 --> 00:27:10.430
with the shin guard boots or the combat boots?
00:27:12.950 --> 00:27:18.230
This would have been 95 maybe 96 so it may have
00:27:18.230 --> 00:27:23.390
been the combat boots Yeah, I loved both of them
00:27:23.390 --> 00:27:25.829
I think that the other boots came into play maybe
00:27:25.829 --> 00:27:32.779
in 97 Maybe it was late 96 -97. I got to see
00:27:32.779 --> 00:27:35.980
him again at Ausfest. It was in Nashville. I
00:27:35.980 --> 00:27:40.880
want to say it was around maybe 2002 -2003 because
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.539
I think Judas Priest was on that bill and Dewey
00:27:45.539 --> 00:27:49.980
Borger, Slayer. It may have been 2003. I think
00:27:49.980 --> 00:27:53.599
Pantera had broken up by then. Yeah. I've never
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:58.170
seen Pantera live. I saw Pantera on The Ozfest
00:27:58.170 --> 00:28:02.390
tour, I believe it was 2000 in Nashville and
00:28:02.390 --> 00:28:09.190
then saw them in 2001 in July of one. Yeah. And
00:28:09.190 --> 00:28:13.150
that was it. Yeah, that's that's I guess that's
00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:16.069
the regret is I never got to see see them. I
00:28:16.069 --> 00:28:18.130
know they're coming to Birmingham, but I'm not
00:28:18.130 --> 00:28:23.769
paying on 100 plus dollars a ticket to go minutes.
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:29.039
It's not really Pantera. Yeah, this is a different
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:34.019
whole different topic, but I Have to chime in
00:28:34.019 --> 00:28:38.960
on this Going to see Metallica going to see Pantera
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.079
this version of Pantera for some of the big bands
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:46.720
like that in 2025 and You've maybe you've maybe
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.460
you've seen them before you saw them 20 years
00:28:48.460 --> 00:28:50.660
ago And you had a blast and you saw them in their
00:28:50.660 --> 00:28:56.490
prime and you spent you know $32 or maybe 50
00:28:56.490 --> 00:28:59.210
if it was part of a festival, which it was like
00:28:59.210 --> 00:29:02.430
OZFest02 was something like 55 bucks or something
00:29:02.430 --> 00:29:05.670
like that. I saw that in that text and stuff.
00:29:06.329 --> 00:29:08.309
Like fifth, wow, I mean, today it'd be, you know,
00:29:08.430 --> 00:29:12.349
200 bucks. And that's the whole day. Gates, the
00:29:12.349 --> 00:29:16.309
doors are Gates at nine 30. But Robert, it is,
00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:18.529
and you know what it's like when you go to a
00:29:18.529 --> 00:29:21.789
concert now, especially at a large venue. and
00:29:21.789 --> 00:29:25.230
you're just, you're seated around a lot of similarly
00:29:25.230 --> 00:29:29.529
aged people who we don't run around and get sweaty
00:29:29.529 --> 00:29:32.549
and drunk. We're just kind of seated with our
00:29:32.549 --> 00:29:36.329
wives and our phones. And we're just, it's not
00:29:36.329 --> 00:29:39.609
really like the same atmosphere, but not to say
00:29:39.609 --> 00:29:42.789
it's not worth it to people that can budget for
00:29:42.789 --> 00:29:47.849
this, but I don't know. I'm still drawn to vinyl
00:29:47.849 --> 00:29:50.269
music hall, going to see a band where I can stand
00:29:50.269 --> 00:29:55.160
up on the floor of a kind of a small venue. Right.
00:29:55.299 --> 00:29:58.759
And just take that in, get in, see the show,
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:02.319
get out, go home. I just feel like it's a lot,
00:30:02.500 --> 00:30:06.240
a lot of money for something that's not what
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:10.900
it once was. Right. And I mean, I don't really
00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:13.359
have any desire to go see, you know, an arena
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.119
show anymore because I'm just, I'm going to sit
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:18.819
there in my seat and just watch it. You know,
00:30:18.819 --> 00:30:22.089
something like back to the beginning. If if I
00:30:22.089 --> 00:30:23.549
could have made that happen could have gotten
00:30:23.549 --> 00:30:26.210
out there and gotten a ticket. I'm sure I would
00:30:26.210 --> 00:30:30.950
have had a blast Possibly I want to say that
00:30:30.950 --> 00:30:33.910
I would have liked to go under that but I'm just
00:30:33.910 --> 00:30:35.569
afraid that I would have gotten there with the
00:30:35.569 --> 00:30:39.529
gates open at 1130 and by three o 'clock I'm
00:30:39.529 --> 00:30:41.869
probably thinking All right, my feet are tired.
00:30:41.869 --> 00:30:44.609
My legs are tired. I want to sit down. I want
00:30:44.609 --> 00:30:47.410
something to eat I don't want a $30 hamburger
00:30:47.410 --> 00:30:51.220
and I'm probably like thinking I want to go home.
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.460
Well part of this going to shows at 40 something
00:30:54.460 --> 00:30:58.279
years old You know, let's not kid ourselves people
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.200
that do this. We're trying to reclaim two hours
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.920
of our youth We're trying to remember what it
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.299
was how much fun this was in 2000 or like you
00:31:07.299 --> 00:31:13.380
said the late 90s 2001 or 203 all that stuff
00:31:13.380 --> 00:31:17.740
and you just you went to those concerts in a
00:31:17.740 --> 00:31:20.539
completely different mindset. You weren't thinking
00:31:20.539 --> 00:31:24.019
about the thing that you have going on at work
00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:28.299
that's waiting for you on Monday or some leak
00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:30.500
at your house that you're waiting for the contractor
00:31:30.500 --> 00:31:32.579
to call you back, but you're gonna go try to
00:31:32.579 --> 00:31:36.359
enjoy this concert or you've got a child that's
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:40.900
got a situation going on and you're halfway checking
00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:43.900
out of it, but you're an adult. We're just at
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an age where it's not... Fuck the world. I'm
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you know Yeah, it's gonna be two hours of heavy
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metal and to an extent maybe some people can
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really compartmentalize and I kind of do it at
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the little club shows that I like to go to but
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I mean you're kidding yourself if you're gonna
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spend $200 with the parking and the the booze
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and the food and the babysitters and I Really
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hate to get off on a negative end. That's my
00:32:13.009 --> 00:32:14.730
whole take. I don't I don't spend the money.
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Yeah I've seen what I wanted to see back when
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I wanted to see it. Yeah. And you also, you probably
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have a good idea of what the set list is going
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to be. We went and saw Slayer several years ago
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.420
in Atlanta. It was Slayer. It was a great lineup.
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.500
It was Slayer, Testament, Anthrax, May Palm Death,
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and I think it was Lamb of God. But I mean, one
00:32:38.579 --> 00:32:43.720
beer was like 13 bucks. I drank one beer the
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whole show. I was like, I could get a half a
00:32:46.539 --> 00:32:50.660
case of this for $13. Now, look, I will say this.
00:32:51.099 --> 00:32:54.259
I don't want to discourage people who are listening
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to this and they've been having a great time
00:32:57.220 --> 00:32:59.240
rocking out and going to shows for years and
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years, but it's just my experience. I had the
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best fun that I think I'm going to have at concerts,
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.220
you know, big venue concerts when I was in my
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20s. And with that technology was sis. It was
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just completely cut off. You're not Thinking
00:33:16.500 --> 00:33:19.000
about I need to check my email in another four
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minutes. I need to see what's happening on Instagram
00:33:21.579 --> 00:33:25.259
I'm you know, I need that dopamine fix and and
00:33:25.259 --> 00:33:28.700
let me just so you're not really all -in You're
00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:31.460
just not no, but I think you're also I don't
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think you're discouraging anybody. I think we
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might be telling People that it's okay to not
00:33:37.049 --> 00:33:41.109
want to go to the show Yeah, don't feel like
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you have like you said if priestess coming you
00:33:43.730 --> 00:33:47.390
don't want to go don't fucking go right if iron
00:33:47.390 --> 00:33:50.970
maiden came I Might consider it because I was
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once again. I've never seen them But I probably
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at the last minute be like yeah No, I'm not going
